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00:04:16.160 So, President Trump was awesome yesterday.

00:04:21.120 Just awesome.

00:04:23.500 He went to—I'm trying to see if we have any—yeah.

00:04:26.800 He went to East Palestine yesterday, cut seven, and said this.

00:04:31.800 To the people of East Palestine and to the nearby communities in Ohio and Pennsylvania, we have told you loud and clear you are not forgotten.

00:04:41.240 You are not forgotten.

00:04:42.320 We stand with you.

00:04:43.160 We pray for you.

00:04:43.940 And we will stay with you in your fight to help answer and the accountability that you deserve.

00:04:50.000 We'll have that accountability.

00:04:51.260 It'll all be out there very clearly.

00:04:53.020 I don't think you could have a stronger contrast between the former president and this current president.

00:05:04.980 While he's out gallivanting around the world giving our money to pension funds in Ukraine, this president is delivering food as a private citizen.

00:05:16.040 Yeah, and not only did Trump beat Biden to Ohio, he beat Buttigieg to Ohio, the guy he's supposed to be looking over this particular thing.

00:05:23.840 Well, but he is riding his bike.

00:05:25.580 Well, he's not riding his bike.

00:05:26.740 He's taking a plane, and then he's putting the bike in the back of a SUV.

00:05:31.960 And then when he gets about a block away from the cameras, he's going to ride his bike into town.

00:05:36.360 Yeah, and we're wearing a fancy helmet when he's doing that because he's safe and he looks really good.

00:05:41.080 Yeah, you always look so good.

00:05:43.400 You know what I mean?

00:05:44.000 So anyway, Trump went on the trail yesterday, and I think this was a huge score for President Trump.

00:05:53.660 Now, speaking of former presidents, there's another story out.

00:05:59.060 A former President Clinton aide who has ties to Epstein died by suicide.

00:06:07.680 Okay, now this story is a year old.

00:06:10.240 This happened May 7th, 2022, but the family kind of wanted to keep all the details quiet.

00:06:17.360 They were afraid of the images being released, and I don't need to see anybody who has killed themselves.

00:06:24.640 I don't need to see their images.

00:06:25.680 However, his name is Mark Middleton.

00:06:30.440 He's 59 years old, and he was discovered deceased at the Heifer Ranch in Perryville, Arkansas, 30 miles from his home in Little Rock.

00:06:40.260 He was sitting next to a tree with an extension cord wrapped around his neck.

00:06:47.060 The other end of the cord was attached to a tree limb above him.

00:06:51.300 But again, he's sitting next to the tree, so he didn't hang himself.

00:06:55.620 Now, how he died was a gunshot wound to the chest, and it was a shotgun.

00:07:13.180 Now, if you have a shotgun, I suppose you could reach, but it's a lot easier if you would put it in, you know, to your head because you'd have a little easier time getting to the trigger, I think, maybe.

00:07:29.740 I don't know.

00:07:30.520 I've never tried this.

00:07:31.520 So, you know, it's difficult to do, but it's possible.

00:07:37.760 Although, the weird thing is, there was no shotgun at the scene.

00:07:44.400 So, anyway, you know, I just wanted to throw that in.

00:07:52.140 It might have been an alien in a balloon.

00:07:55.760 Now, by the way, this guy is the guy who let Jeffrey Epstein into the White House over and over and over again while President Clinton was in the White House.

00:08:06.920 Oh, and he took a couple of trips to the island with Jeffrey Epstein and President Clinton.

00:08:11.880 But, again, suicide by hanging or some sort of magic shotgun that wasn't at the scene of the crime.

00:08:31.040 Okay.

00:08:32.200 Let's see.

00:08:33.100 What else is news today?

00:08:35.220 Oh, a vinyl chloride update for you.

00:08:38.880 So, yesterday, we read the story to you.

00:08:41.820 CDC updates profile for vinyl chloride days before Ohio train derailment and remove section on how it affects children.

00:08:51.660 So, yesterday, I told you that we had reached out to the CDC for, you know, I'd like to debunk this story.

00:09:01.200 I don't, I mean, I just don't understand.

00:09:04.640 I mean, it's really easy right now to say everything the government says is a lie.

00:09:12.140 Very easy.

00:09:14.760 And many times that is true, but it doesn't always make it true.

00:09:18.980 And we should always try to find an answer over a theory.

00:09:24.380 So, we wrote to the CDC and we said we wanted to get ahead of any conspiracy theories and go straight to the source and ask the CDC,

00:09:33.980 is this merely a coincidence of timing?

00:09:37.460 Number two, why were the updates made?

00:09:40.800 Number three, why was the section on how that vinyl chloride impacts children was removed?

00:09:47.560 What is the CDC's response to the safety of the Ohioans' post-toxic chemical release on February 3rd?

00:09:55.040 Thank you.

00:09:56.300 Well, they wrote back.

00:09:57.980 Shocking.

00:09:59.280 CDC wrote back and said, thank you for reaching out on this topic.

00:10:02.620 By congressional mandate, the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry produces and updates toxicological profiles for chemical substances found on its substance priority list.

00:10:18.740 Also, National Priorities List.

00:10:21.880 You can find those at the National Priorities List site.

00:10:24.900 The Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act of 1980 is amended, blah, blah, blah, further requires that toxicological profiles be updated periodically.

00:10:36.000 They evaluate profiles annually to determine whether updating is necessary depending on the complexity of the chemical.

00:10:42.460 The process for developing a tox profile can take up to a year or more.

00:10:45.880 This includes multiple reviews, such as external independent peer review, followed by a release for a 90-day public comment period, incorporating any necessary changes at vinyl publishing.

00:10:56.040 They developed the initial vinyl chloride tox profile in 1989.

00:11:01.860 They produced updates in 93, 97, 2006, and 2023 based on the latest information.

00:11:09.900 They have been working on an update for the vinyl chloride tox profile over the past year.

00:11:14.420 It had been made available for public comment on February 9th.

00:11:20.060 Remember, the train derailment was the third.

00:11:23.400 Made available for public comment on February 9th as part of the usual process not related at all to the situation in East Palestine.

00:11:33.440 A draft tox profile available for public comment is there until May 20, 2023.

00:11:40.780 It updates the 2006 version.

00:11:44.420 And it doesn't answer any of our other questions.

00:11:48.300 So, I really wanted to know why did you remove the part about the children and the impact on children and mothers, but they decided not to answer that.

00:11:59.420 But there's your answer on why they updated it.

00:12:03.060 And so, because I thought you said it happened right before the train.

00:12:06.400 They did, but they posted the public comment period after.

00:12:12.640 After, okay.

00:12:14.160 Yeah, I mean, look, I think all that does is explain that it theoretically could be a coincidence, right?

00:12:19.580 Like, they do it every once in a while.

00:12:22.280 It was just very, very...

00:12:23.680 Sure.

00:12:24.020 It doesn't mean it is a coincidence.

00:12:26.020 It just means it could be.

00:12:27.420 And I don't even know what the straight line is there when it comes to what the conspiracy theory would be.

00:12:31.980 Have you followed this enough to know what would be the accusation?

00:12:35.620 That they knew there was going to be a train derailment?

00:12:38.340 I guess.

00:12:39.040 I guess.

00:12:39.620 I mean, it would...

00:12:41.260 Kind of a weird...

00:12:42.860 That's a very strange path if that's what they were doing intentionally.

00:12:48.280 I mean, you would...

00:12:49.220 It would be a little ridiculous.

00:12:52.260 I mean, that's a little ridiculous of a conspiracy theory.

00:12:55.380 It's just so coincidental that you just want to ask the questions, which is what we tried to do.

00:13:01.300 Which we tried to do.

00:13:01.860 And did not get those answers, but I'm sure they're coming soon.

00:13:04.020 Now, speaking of this, there is a kind of an interesting other story on misinformation, disinformation.

00:13:13.620 And it revolves around Google.

00:13:16.020 Google has done this really cool thing now to where, you know, all of everybody is getting out of the world of, you know, disinformation.

00:13:25.640 We're not going to put lists together anymore, blacklist.

00:13:29.060 And, you know, it's interesting to me.

00:13:31.960 I felt something was wrong with this.

00:13:34.020 For the last couple of weeks, every time it's been brought up and brought up in meetings, I've just said, nah.

00:13:41.620 And I didn't know who had to verbalize until I saw this story.

00:13:46.100 And I'm like, that's what I was feeling.

00:13:49.220 It seemed too easy.

00:13:51.800 They're exposed.

00:13:53.580 They're exposed for, you know, working with this group out of England and making a list, a blacklist.

00:14:00.600 And all of a sudden, Microsoft, Google, everybody's like, oh, you know what?

00:14:05.780 Oh, we're outraged.

00:14:07.240 We had no idea.

00:14:08.760 We're going to stop that blacklist.

00:14:10.840 We're not going to do that anymore.

00:14:13.000 Right.

00:14:15.800 Right.

00:14:16.900 OK.

00:14:17.340 Listen to this story.

00:14:18.300 The misinformation or disinformation field has exploded in popularity over the past decade.

00:14:25.080 Forces in American society have been using these terms as a pretext for suppressing certain viewpoints on big tech platforms.

00:14:31.840 Now, the world's largest and most used search engine company is getting deeper into the game.

00:14:40.500 Proponents of this endeavor have tried a series of methods to tackle the problem of what they call misinformation.

00:14:47.700 But it appears they have found a new favored strategy.

00:14:51.680 So the reason why they were so willing to go, yeah, whoa, you caught us.

00:14:57.820 We're out is because they've been working on something even worse.

00:15:02.580 The effort against supposed misinformation has transformed from a left wing media talking point to a full blown government sponsored initiative to combat information inconvenient to the state's objectives.

00:15:15.380 In addition, various private organizations have positioned themselves as champions against false information being propagated on the Internet to put simply pre bunking.

00:15:27.960 Pre bunking, not debunking, pre bunking is the new tool.

00:15:34.280 It is designed to inoculate people against the spread of misinformation on digital platforms.

00:15:41.840 Rather than publishing information to expose supposedly false claims, it relies on conditioning individuals to view certain types of arguments as fake news before they ever encounter them.

00:16:00.320 Hmm.

00:16:02.820 This is a types of arguments.

00:16:04.800 This is objective is accomplished through the use of strategic videos, strategic ads, and even online games like cat park, which is funded by the departments, the state department's global engagement center to crack down on the impact of populism on foreign elections.

00:16:27.220 Google, through its jigsaw unit, has been one of the entities at the forefront of the debunking initiative.

00:16:35.900 This is from debunking or pre bunk.

00:16:37.640 This is oh, sorry, pre bunk initiative.

00:16:40.560 This is from just the news.

00:16:42.620 After experimenting on Americans, after experimenting on Americans and Eastern Europeans last year,

00:16:53.220 Google is expanding a program to inoculate YouTube viewers against purported misinformation and disinformation to Europe's largest economy and the world's soon to be biggest country.

00:17:07.820 The alphabet owned company gave the Associated Press a preview of its pre bunking initiative expansion into Germany.

00:17:15.880 It will focus on the ease of presenting photos and videos as evidence of something false.

00:17:23.220 So what they're saying here is they just need to precondition you really without you really knowing it by manipulating different videos and ads directed towards what you might be predisposed to think.

00:17:47.600 So, you know, if you don't trust the government, you're going to get a lot of preconditioning to show that really the government is really very helpful and truthful.

00:17:59.100 You just have been misguided.

00:18:01.260 And my guess is it won't say you're misguided.

00:18:05.620 You'll just start to have an algorithm that is very slowly pro government.

00:18:14.200 As opposed to the one that exists now that is very obviously pro government.

00:18:19.040 Yeah.

00:18:19.380 But no, I think I see what you're saying.

00:18:21.360 This goes back to some of the research we've talked about over the years where you can really easily without anyone noticing change the experience for a user on a search engine.

00:18:30.680 And it's going to become even more blatant with AI.

00:18:33.320 I mean, you know, no one only the only AI, you know, transcripts that you read are the ones that people post intentionally on Twitter or whatever.

00:18:43.520 You don't there's no record of them.

00:18:46.380 You know, this is why it would be so hard.

00:18:47.740 They're talking about this for homework.

00:18:49.040 Why it would be so hard for the plagiarism thing to be caught now, because there's no record of what the AI is going to write for a kid that wants to write an essay.

00:18:56.780 Correct.

00:18:57.440 And so you push that to a place where a company that may have very close ties to the government and may have an agenda similar to the government wants to push through that agenda.

00:19:08.160 Very easy to do it.

00:19:09.260 Imagine if they had this pre-crime or pre-debunking of, let's say, ESG.

00:19:16.400 They could have had videos made that they were pushing out showing, oh, ESG is is not real or it's really, really good and not what it said before we were talking about it.

00:19:29.240 That way I would have a much more difficult time getting this message out because too many people would be predisposed to go, yeah, war is good.

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00:24:31.940 Gabe Kaminsky is an investigative reporter for the Washington Examiner, and he has been on the program just recently.

00:24:38.780 He was on, I think, a couple of weeks ago to talk about the British group that is fighting disinformation and making a blacklist of conservative media.

00:24:49.260 Well, he has a new story that has just dropped today, and that is a story on James Comer demanding records from the State Department and their funding of the group of blacklisting conservatives.

00:25:06.220 This is an amazing story to think that our State Department has funded an effort to stop advertising on programs like and truly including mine.

00:25:24.360 My tax dollars are going to hurt my own business.

00:25:29.020 It is incredible.

00:25:31.040 Welcome to the program, Gabe.

00:25:33.780 How are you?

00:25:34.160 Hi, Glenn.

00:25:35.900 Thanks for having me.

00:25:36.840 So tell me the latest twist in this.

00:25:39.160 What's happening?

00:25:40.980 The latest twist is following the National Endowment for Democracy, a State Department-backed entity announcing it will no longer provide future resources to the Global Disinformation Index.

00:25:53.240 Today, Representative James Comer, chairman of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, has sent a letter to the State Department and Secretary Antony Blinken, and he's demanding documents in connection to funding of the Global Disinformation Index by March 9th.

00:26:10.940 He's also demanding a briefing by the State Department no later than March 2nd.

00:26:15.760 So this is just the latest development in Republicans in Congress beginning to investigate this funding.

00:26:23.360 Explain to people why this matters so much.

00:26:26.460 You know, what we've uncovered through our series, Disinformation Inc. in the Washington Examiner, is how the U.S. Department of State has been funding an organization called the Global Disinformation Index, which has been secretly feeding and compiling blacklists of conservative news websites and feeding those to advertising companies.

00:26:49.920 We need the intent of shutting down those websites, places trying to dictate where you can read and get your information, places like the Blaze, the Daily Wire, the Washington Examiner, and certainly your radio show, Glenn.

00:27:01.960 And so what we found is that the State Department is funding that group, the Global Disinformation Index, which has raised pretty big red flags among First Amendment lawyers.

00:27:11.600 Have you seen the story about the Google effort called Jigsaw?

00:27:21.460 I'm not familiar now.

00:27:22.940 Okay.

00:27:23.380 You should look into this as part of your series because you're so good at your investigative reporting.

00:27:29.860 There is a story out now about Jigsaw, and what's bothered me was, you know, Bing and everybody else immediately jumping on the bandwagon saying,

00:27:41.080 Oh, my gosh, we had no idea, that global initiative, that was, huh, we had no, we're not going to use that anymore.

00:27:48.980 There's a story out now about pre-bunking.

00:27:54.380 Instead of debunking, pre-bunking.

00:27:58.300 And Google is using a device that they have put together called Jigsaw.

00:28:05.060 And it is going to push things out to, let me see if I can get the, the way they have said this is absolutely incredible.

00:28:20.500 Um, it is not just going to expose false claims.

00:28:26.720 It relies on, quote, conditioning individuals to view certain types of arguments as fake news, even before they encounter them.

00:28:37.920 That sounds a little spooky.

00:28:39.460 Yeah, I will say that that does sound spooky.

00:28:43.200 And I, I'll tell you what, Glenn, that sounds very similar to, uh, what we've unpacked at the global disinformation index,

00:28:49.280 because they've been identifying disinformation as not merely fraudulent or false, uh, information,

00:28:55.720 but actually opinion articles that they disagree with.

00:28:59.540 And so, for example, they've been flagging Washington examiner pieces that are based on research that are commentary as disinformation.

00:29:07.140 So, certainly the movement has morphed into this, uh, disagreement with ideas you don't like, you know?

00:29:13.320 It's really, really unbelievable.

00:29:15.500 Gabe, thank you so much for, uh, all of your work.

00:29:17.800 And this story just broke just a few minutes ago.

00:29:20.460 You can find it at the Washington Examiner.

00:29:22.760 If you're not reading the Washington Examiner every day, you're missing out.

00:29:26.180 It is a must-read, um, uh, website.

00:29:29.740 Thank you so much, Gabe.

00:29:30.840 Appreciate it.

00:29:32.320 Thanks, Glenn.

00:29:33.160 You bet.

00:29:33.500 Bye-bye.

00:29:33.780 Um, he's an investigative reporter, has been looking at all of this disinformation.

00:29:39.700 Um, and I, I mean, my tax dollars, my tax dollars are being put to use to silence me.

00:29:51.780 I mean, it's incredible.

00:29:53.380 And by the way, it's not the first time it's happened to you, which, uh, congrats.

00:29:58.700 Yeah.

00:29:58.880 Uh, but this is a totally new type of effort.

00:30:02.100 Well, it's, it is the first time, it's not the first time people have gone after me.

00:30:06.220 Yeah.

00:30:06.380 But if you remember right, the press had no interest in, uh, when the White House had organized

00:30:14.580 three or four separate, uh, attempts outside of the White House, but all from within the

00:30:24.180 White House, right?

00:30:25.140 Like it was, you know, it was people who worked in the White House and they had side organizations

00:30:30.100 that were coming after you.

00:30:31.200 I guess it's a little bit different.

00:30:32.360 Yeah.

00:30:32.500 It's a little different.

00:30:33.860 Um, but they had been doing that and nobody paid attention to that.

00:30:37.380 No one cared.

00:30:37.920 Uh, nobody cared now, but this is the first time.

00:30:41.160 And this is all of government approach.

00:30:43.080 This is what Joe Biden is doing.

00:30:46.280 It's all government approach to stopping whatever it is they want to stop.

00:30:51.800 And so they'll use and find all of the levers in all of these different agencies.

00:30:58.240 I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to see if the USDA was, you know, uh, working against

00:31:04.160 energy or working against disinformation or whatever it is.

00:31:08.340 Yeah.

00:31:08.560 And it's, it's, it ties into what we've been talking about the last couple of weeks where

00:31:12.360 the disinformation police, if you will, is something that actually could have value to

00:31:19.060 society, especially right now, where we're going into a world where AI and deep fakes

00:31:25.360 and, and voice replication and all these things are coming and having institutions that could

00:31:31.140 sift through this for us and let us know when something was real and was something wasn't

00:31:36.020 would be truly valuable if it wasn't being done like this.

00:31:40.500 If we could have trust in these institutions at media sources, government, all of these

00:31:46.440 things that are supposed scientists, health officials, all these people are supposed to

00:31:51.740 be around to help us go through this stuff and figure out what's real and what isn't.

00:31:57.560 Instead, what's happened is they've pre-bunked the whole process.

00:32:01.920 They've come up with, they've, they've made everyone not believe the fact checking process

00:32:05.720 before these crucial moments occur.

00:32:07.560 And now no one knows where to turn.

00:32:10.540 Well, I think it's really, it's becoming easier.

00:32:14.760 You know, anything that the networks are telling you is most likely at least slanted, but very

00:32:24.500 well, possibly false.

00:32:27.020 Okay.

00:32:27.380 You can't, this is the thing on, um, the same thing with Putin and, uh, and Ukraine more than

00:32:34.380 one thing can be true.

00:32:36.240 Okay.

00:32:37.200 So, uh, I don't like Putin.

00:32:41.140 However, what Putin said in his speech, some of it, some of it was very true.

00:32:46.720 So it doesn't end by saying that, that doesn't make me a supporter of Putin.

00:32:52.900 Okay.

00:32:53.860 Um, there's, there's another option.

00:32:56.520 Putin is right about these things wrong about other things that doesn't make me have to

00:33:03.980 choose between Putin or Biden.

00:33:07.620 I don't want Biden leading a war in Ukraine.

00:33:11.900 I like the people of Ukraine.

00:33:14.120 I don't like the government of Ukraine because it's absolutely corrupt.

00:33:18.080 I don't like the government of the United States because it appears to be absolutely corrupt.

00:33:23.260 I don't like the government of Russia.

00:33:25.600 It appears to be absolutely corrupt.

00:33:28.420 So I don't have to pick sides.

00:33:30.780 I can say I like and support the people, but I don't support any of those governments.

00:33:36.780 I don't support any of them in the war.

00:33:38.560 None.

00:33:39.280 I don't want my money going there.

00:33:41.340 I don't want it, uh, you know, going against Putin and I don't want, uh, a nuclear war on

00:33:48.800 Putin last night, I did a special on the effects of nuclear war.

00:33:53.700 And it was really eyeopening because we really don't take it seriously at all anymore because

00:34:01.460 we all learn that, nah, this is, that's not good.

00:34:06.520 Hey, you can't win in that war, but there was something in last night special right towards

00:34:12.540 the beginning that I thought was so important and that is the idea that this is the first

00:34:21.240 time and think of this, this is the first time that, uh, two nuclear superpowers, Russia

00:34:31.000 and the United States, uh, would be facing off face to face.

00:34:37.060 We've always fought through proxies like it's happening right now, but Russia is now

00:34:43.440 saying that we are, we have, uh, um, perpetrated the Nord Stream pipeline explosion, which a

00:34:51.120 crime against humanity, war crimes.

00:34:53.760 Okay.

00:34:54.680 And we're saying war crimes against them.

00:34:57.700 And they are also saying that, uh, by us being there and spending so much money and doing

00:35:06.080 all this and giving them advice, we're directly engaging.

00:35:10.340 We are also saying that the only way that we're going to end this is if Putin and his regime

00:35:16.960 is gone.

00:35:17.680 So it's regime change.

00:35:20.000 He is saying that it's either us or them because I'm not going anywhere.

00:35:26.320 So if they defeat, they'll defeat our entire system.

00:35:31.140 So they cannot win.

00:35:33.100 The United States is trying to destroy us.

00:35:36.200 They're trying to destroy us.

00:35:38.780 We're trying to destroy them.

00:35:40.880 Okay.

00:35:41.320 That's never happened since we had nuclear missiles.

00:35:45.020 It's never happened.

00:35:46.140 We've never gone toe to toe, face to face.

00:35:48.480 And it's always been about another issue.

00:35:51.700 It hasn't been, I'm going to topple you.

00:35:55.060 That's what makes this nuclear, uh, flashpoint different than all of the other flashpoints.

00:36:05.160 It's always been about something else, but now both sides are on record crimes against

00:36:12.840 humanity, regime change.

00:36:15.920 That's why if we got into a war and we know, we knew Putin was winning and it meant the end

00:36:24.840 of NATO and possibly the end of America, would we consider using nukes?

00:36:32.660 It means the end of us and the end of Europe.

00:36:38.060 I think we would.

00:36:40.500 If they are losing and they feel like that's the end of Russia and they're going to be taken

00:36:48.000 over by NATO, will they use nukes?

00:36:51.800 Yeah, I think the answer is yes.

00:36:55.340 That's the biggest thing you need to understand about this.

00:36:58.180 I still don't think that it's a reality, that it will happen.

00:37:02.420 I do think that when you have the understanding that both sides are backing each other into

00:37:09.080 a corner and they're both calling for the decapitation of those systems, both sides, you're in a

00:37:18.140 different world.

00:37:20.540 That's, and you're right.

00:37:22.000 I mean, it's never happened.

00:37:23.440 It seems to me the, the best way to avoid, this is going to sound very basic, but the

00:37:29.260 best way to avoid this escalating is for the current president to be voted out of office

00:37:35.100 and someone else being in control of those decisions.

00:37:37.520 If we can make it that long.

00:37:38.800 Yeah.

00:37:39.100 And that's still, you know, still two years away.

00:37:41.920 Two years away.

00:37:42.620 Two years away.

00:37:43.380 A year and a half, I guess.

00:37:44.400 All right.

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00:38:57.820 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:39:11.140 Well, it looks like the DOD now is also involved in opposition research.

00:39:22.060 The Department of Defense has been caught releasing private individuals' records unlawfully to opposition

00:39:32.660 research teams, Democrats.

00:39:34.560 Democrats, and those records are being used to smear people, threaten people, and change

00:39:42.160 elections.

00:39:42.960 So we got that going for us too now.

00:39:45.160 Yeah, that's it.

00:39:45.900 You know, I think we might be on the verge of something really big in this world.

00:39:48.840 What do you mean?

00:39:49.300 Because if you think about, like, I've always thought that the media really hit a tripwire

00:39:54.620 with Trump.

00:39:55.200 They've always been liberal.

00:39:56.400 They've always been.

00:39:57.040 They went insane.

00:39:57.800 Right, but they went insane.

00:39:59.020 Like, they really, they basically outwardly stated, this is too important for those old

00:40:04.540 journalism rules.

00:40:05.580 Correct.

00:40:05.860 Right?

00:40:06.060 Like, he's too uniquely terrible.

00:40:08.340 We have to break all these rules.

00:40:10.000 We now have to fight on the side of what's right in their minds.

00:40:14.320 And we all notice that, I think, with the media.

00:40:17.580 We all saw it happen in front of our eyes.

00:40:19.840 But what is that at its core?

00:40:21.560 That is, people using their own abilities, their own connections, their own surroundings

00:40:30.220 to go after this goal of, in this case, removing Donald Trump at all costs.

00:40:37.380 The same types of people had jobs within the government, within the Defense Department

00:40:43.160 of Defense, within, as you might call it, the deep state.

00:40:46.700 And those people also went insane when this went on.

00:40:50.300 Correct.

00:40:50.540 And we're just at the precipice of understanding what types of moves were made when that was

00:40:57.040 going on.

00:40:57.560 When they all sort of lost their mind and said, you know, I, yes, I'm a liberal, but

00:41:01.140 I'm fighting for our country.

00:41:02.420 Wait a minute.

00:41:02.960 This guy's different.

00:41:04.060 I need to change.

00:41:05.140 But they started there, but they haven't finished.

00:41:07.880 No.

00:41:08.400 Now they are still doing it, and it is getting worse and worse and more widespread.

00:41:14.120 That's why it has to be rebooted.

00:41:17.240 Unplug it and plug it back in with all new people.

00:41:23.160 It's corrupt.

00:41:24.120 All of the files have been corrupted.

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00:43:30.400 How many people would you say are preppers here in the United States?

00:43:36.460 Attach a number to it.

00:43:38.020 Stu, take a guess.

00:43:39.640 How many?

00:43:41.340 I mean, I...

00:43:42.240 330 million people.

00:43:44.280 How many are preppers?

00:43:45.420 How many are preppers?

00:43:46.260 How many are preppers would consider themselves preppers?

00:43:49.060 10%?

00:43:50.300 Uh-huh.

00:43:52.260 1%.

00:43:52.740 Wow.

00:43:53.580 3.7 million.

00:43:55.580 That's it.

00:43:56.640 That's it.

00:43:57.440 We are radically underprepared for anything that might happen.

00:44:02.820 Last night, I did a special on the threat of nuclear war.

00:44:06.260 And there were a couple of things that came out of that that were really, really important.

00:44:10.180 First of all, we've had close calls, but this is the first time that you've had two nuclear powers, Russia and the United States, directly engaging each other.

00:44:21.780 It's always been through proxies, and it still is somewhat through Ukraine.

00:44:26.100 But Russia is looking at this more and more like an American war against Russia and Putin.

00:44:35.040 They both are now threatening to topple one another.

00:44:39.620 So our very existence is at stake if we lose this war or they lose this war.

00:44:46.920 When you get into that kind of situation, the stakes of nuclear war go way up.

00:44:52.700 Because you're talking about the annihilation of your state, the toppling of your country.

00:45:00.380 And that's the only time that nuclear weapons are really, truly thought of in crazy situations by crazy people.

00:45:09.160 They think, well, if we're going down, we might as well take them out as well because we can't have the world led by them.

00:45:16.680 But it's a frightening scenario, and we are not prepared.

00:45:22.560 Other countries are beginning to prepare.

00:45:25.760 Should we?

00:45:27.020 Dr. Bradley Garrett is with us.

00:45:29.480 He is a geographer and also an author.

00:45:34.600 Bunker, Building for the End Times.

00:45:37.300 He has studied bunkers all over the world.

00:45:40.380 And he's going to talk about it and being prepared in 60 seconds.

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00:46:58.260 Brad Garrett is joining us.

00:47:02.040 Hi, Brad.

00:47:02.300 How are you, sir?

00:47:04.000 Good morning, Glenn.

00:47:04.640 I'm doing great.

00:47:05.180 How are you?

00:47:05.700 I'm good.

00:47:07.880 I'm shocked at the number that there's only 3.7 million Americans that would consider themselves preppers.

00:47:14.480 I would have thought that was at least 5%, 10%.

00:47:18.260 You know, I think that number is a bit misleading because a lot of people don't want to identify themselves as preppers.

00:47:27.180 So I think that, you know, that's a problem with polling.

00:47:30.700 Right.

00:47:30.900 Because if you ask people, if you switch that question around, you say, you know, can you survive for 30 days on your own?

00:47:40.340 Like, imagine there's no government infrastructure, you know, water's down, power's down, there's no grocery stores.

00:47:46.480 If you ask people the question that way, then about 11.7 million people say that they can survive for 30 days.

00:47:54.440 So I think it's a problem of labeling, you know, just like in the past, people didn't want to be called survivalists.

00:48:01.760 People now don't want to be called preppers.

00:48:03.620 It has a kind of, you know, taken on a negative connotation for some reason.

00:48:07.600 You know, it used to just be called self-reliance.

00:48:11.040 Are you self-reliant?

00:48:12.520 Yeah.

00:48:13.880 Yeah, of course.

00:48:14.980 Yeah.

00:48:15.340 150 years ago, everyone was self-reliant.

00:48:17.660 Right.

00:48:17.760 We've become increasingly dependent on the state and less dependent on our neighbors, which I think is the bigger problem.

00:48:25.580 You know, I, because I consider myself, well, actually, I go back and forth.

00:48:32.720 I consider myself a prepper because I'm more prepared than most of my friends.

00:48:36.520 However, I just know there's going to be something like, oh, crap, I forgot batteries.

00:48:41.000 There's going to be something that it all falls apart.

00:48:43.500 You know what I mean?

00:48:44.920 Absolutely.

00:48:45.560 There's always something.

00:48:46.700 But, you know, this is why I spent a lot of time in Salt Lake City when I was writing my book, Bunker, and the Church of Latter-day Saints up there.

00:48:58.540 And they are incredible preppers, and they run through scenarios all the time.

00:49:04.500 So they will, you know, they'll practice an emergency.

00:49:08.120 They'll work through their food stores.

00:49:09.780 They practice calling everyone on their phone chain, making sure their neighbors are available in the event of a disaster.

00:49:14.240 That's what we should all be doing.

00:49:15.540 So, you know, if you do a dry run, then you realize what you're lacking.

00:49:20.080 Were you allowed into the tunnels underneath Salt Lake?

00:49:24.020 No, I tried.

00:49:26.260 You should have called me.

00:49:27.220 I could have maybe gotten you in.

00:49:29.380 It's incredible.

00:49:32.160 Let's go back.

00:49:32.920 Yeah.

00:49:33.280 It's absolutely incredible.

00:49:35.260 They have enough food storage and everything else for the entire city in case there's a problem.

00:49:43.640 It's really incredible.

00:49:45.180 Really incredible.

00:49:45.860 That's fantastic.

00:49:46.640 I have to say it was the easiest part of writing my book.

00:49:48.980 You know, a lot of preppers, particularly preppers that are building high-level luxury private bunkers,

00:49:55.740 did not want people to necessarily know where they were or what was inside them.

00:50:01.860 But when I showed up in Salt Lake City, they were open arms for the most part, you know,

00:50:07.180 just let me into all of their facilities.

00:50:08.740 I saw the canning facilities where they filled those number 10 cans with pasta and oatmeal and everything else.

00:50:16.000 It was quite a thing.

00:50:18.140 But, yeah, I didn't make it to the tunnels.

00:50:20.280 Tell me, since we have had this nuclear warning, it's my understanding that there are countries,

00:50:30.120 Russia is one of them, I think Switzerland is one, I think the United Kingdom is one,

00:50:34.720 where they are going back and looking at their old Cold War bunkers.

00:50:39.180 And in Switzerland, I believe that they're being mandated by government.

00:50:45.000 And you've got to go update the food and water in them.

00:50:47.960 Is that true?

00:50:49.400 That is true.

00:50:50.480 Yeah.

00:50:50.820 And, I mean, it's kind of ironic that the bunkers that were built by the Soviet Union in Ukraine

00:50:56.320 have been sheltering people and saving probably tens of thousands of lives at this point.

00:51:02.440 But that has encouraged the rest of Europe to sort of reassess their position in terms of bunkers.

00:51:08.220 Switzerland is the most protected country on Earth, aside from maybe North Korea,

00:51:14.100 but we have no idea what's going on, really.

00:51:18.060 So there is space for 102% of the population, which is kind of astounding.

00:51:27.640 You know, they've actually got 300,000 private bunkers inside Switzerland and then 5,000 public shelters.

00:51:35.660 And most of those are not just fallout shelters, but blast shelters.

00:51:41.520 So those are nuclear, biological, and chemical-filtered shelters that the population can take shelter in.

00:51:49.320 And, you know, there's actually enough space that if someone was visiting, you know,

00:51:53.540 the tourists could end up in those bunkers as well.

00:51:55.680 That is crazy.

00:51:57.420 So where are we on the scale of these Western nations and nations that would be affected by this nuclear threat?

00:52:07.740 Where are we in taking it seriously as a government and preparing people for it?

00:52:16.200 Absolutely terrible.

00:52:17.600 I mean, the U.S. and U.K. are probably at the bottom of the list in terms of preparations.

00:52:22.620 And that goes back in the United States to the Cold War.

00:52:27.260 So there was a team of nuclear strategists that included Herman Kahn that thought about what it would take to –

00:52:37.620 he wrote this amazing book on her nuclear workbook.

00:52:40.600 I have a copy of it.

00:52:41.720 It's great.

00:52:42.520 Absolutely incredible.

00:52:43.600 But he ran these scenarios about what it would take to evacuate the U.S. population into bunkers if there were to be an all-out nuclear exchange.

00:52:57.060 And the cost of construction of those bunkers essentially exceeded GDP of the country for a year.

00:53:03.240 Yeah, so that's why the Kennedy administration, I think it was in 63, Kennedy made the speech where he basically said, you know, it's the responsibility of each person, each family, each community to take preparation upon yourselves.

00:53:21.400 And that's the path that we've been going down since then.

00:53:25.180 And I think what frustrates a lot of Americans is that we now know that as that speech was being made, the government was hard at work constructing bunkers for themselves, for their families, for their aides.

00:53:37.100 So, you know, we have a model in the United States and also in the U.K. where if you're a politician, if you're a CEO, if you're, you know, someone with influence and power, you're probably going to get space in a bunker, but everyone else is, you know, left out to dry.

00:53:55.300 And so that has triggered in the United States this incredible movement in the last 10 years or so of private citizens building their own bunkers.

00:54:07.580 And some of these even rival the government bunkers that were built during the Cold War.

00:54:13.340 So why did you write this book?

00:54:15.120 Are you, I mean, do you, are you feeling we're going to need bunkers or what was your motivation here?

00:54:22.380 Well, I, the bunker is really a metaphor for thinking about our deteriorating geopolitical situation, thinking about our deteriorating, you know, just social situation within the country.

00:54:40.700 Right.

00:54:41.500 I, when I, when I began writing the book, I was interested in, interested in the topic from a sociological perspective.

00:54:50.100 I wanted to know who the private players were that were building these bunkers, what they were worried about and, um, and whether there was any credence to it.

00:55:00.400 And, um, I have, since I wrote the book, purchased the cabin in the woods and a five acre ranch.

00:55:08.260 I've got two different locations that are connected by a four wheel diet, four wheel drive dirt track.

00:55:13.480 So I can move between them without going on, on major roads.

00:55:17.660 Um, I, uh, most of the people that I spoke to who were serious about their preparations told me, um, that, uh, the, the concerns that they had weren't just speculative, right?

00:55:31.680 That they felt we were on the precipice of something happening.

00:55:35.280 And keep in mind, I started writing this book in 2017.

00:55:38.380 I finished it in, in 2021.

00:55:41.020 Um, so, uh, I had a lot of interviews with people telling me that a, that a pandemic was inevitable, that we were overdue for one, that they happened with regularity every hundred years or so.

00:55:53.060 Right.

00:55:53.440 And then it happened.

00:55:54.320 And so that, that made me go back and reassess all the other things that people were telling me that seemed slightly conspiratorial, um, or like, like some kind of magical thinking.

00:56:08.580 And then when I went and re reassess those claims, they seem to hold a lot more weight than I expect them to.

00:56:14.600 Yeah.

00:56:15.260 And so you became, you became one of us anyway.

00:56:22.160 Sorry about that, Brad.

00:56:23.340 But I think, but I think to your point, you know, it's, you know, we're just going back to an earlier time or it's, it's taking on a different kind of mindset where you can't just get on Amazon and click a button and get the thing you need tomorrow.

00:56:35.140 You need to have it now because you might not be able to get it when things go wrong.

00:56:40.880 And so, um, yeah, I think it's just, it's just a kind of, uh, changing up our mindset a little bit to think about, uh, what our position might be in the future.

00:56:50.560 And it might be a little more precarious than it is now.

00:56:52.720 Uh, we're talking to Dr. Brad Garrett.

00:56:55.080 He wrote the book Bunker Building for the End Times.

00:56:58.980 Uh, you can follow him at his website, BradleyGarrett.com.

00:57:02.740 Back with more in just a minute.

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00:58:16.400 I remember, um, I graduated high school in 1982 and my, uh, my rights and responsibilities project was, uh, was a, uh, an essay on the preparedness of our school.

00:58:41.700 And I went into our fallout shelter and it was a joke.

00:58:46.100 I mean, I remember the air was not being filtered.

00:58:50.780 The air was just from a shaft, uh, that went right directly outside.

00:58:55.760 Um, now I can't even imagine, you know, do fallout shelters even exist anymore?

00:59:02.780 Well, they, they do, um, most of them are in a state of disrepair.

00:59:09.800 A lot of them have been, have been turned into, you know, they've just been adapted for different purposes.

00:59:15.720 Um, there was a, a national fallout shelter survey that took place in the late 1960s, early 70s,

00:59:23.700 where we identified, uh, parking garages, basements, you know, spaces that could be essentially used as a, as a fallout shelter.

00:59:33.180 So imagine, you know, you're a hundred miles from a nuclear blast.

00:59:37.440 Um, you would get into this parking garage and, and wait it out.

00:59:40.560 But most of those spaces, as you say, didn't have any sort of filtration.

00:59:45.200 Right.

00:59:45.320 Um, so, you know, you might, you might increase people's possibility of surviving, but you're not assuring anyone is going to survive really.

00:59:54.180 Um, now, if you try and look for those fallout shelters, uh, they're hard to find.

01:00:00.260 Of course, the government has continued, um, uh, you know, the, the, the theme of protecting themselves.

01:00:08.500 So they have space, uh, that they can go to.

01:00:12.100 There's a, there's a ring of about a hundred bunkers around Washington, DC, that government officials can be easily whisked away to, uh, that of course are stockpiled with food.

01:00:20.960 And, um, they've got EMP shielded, like the communication systems.

01:00:26.440 Um, they, you know, they, they're, they're blast shelters, so they could take a direct hit.

01:00:31.920 Um, you know, you, you can, so we, we've assured the continuity of government, uh,

01:00:38.120 But that's about it.

01:00:40.840 Cockroaches and politicians will survive.

01:00:43.940 Of course they will.

01:00:45.020 Yeah.

01:00:45.260 But, you know, the government without its people doesn't mean much.

01:00:48.720 No, it doesn't.

01:00:49.940 Um, yeah.

01:00:50.760 I mean, it's, it's an incredible thing to imagine during the cold war.

01:00:54.740 Every city in the United States with over half a million people in it had a nuclear warhead aimed at it, ready to fire.

01:01:01.260 I mean, it just, it literally just took someone to press that button and that city would be obliterated.

01:01:07.500 And it feels like, you know, those nuclear tensions obviously are ramping up again.

01:01:13.700 And we might end up back in that situation where we're thinking seriously about what it would mean to lose DC, Los Angeles, Boston.

01:01:23.120 But I mean, what, you know, what, what would we do?

01:01:25.600 And, and the, the, the answer is the government has a plan, but we don't for the most part.

01:01:32.340 So where do you even start, um, on, uh, a plan?

01:01:37.620 I mean, you know, people will say, I've got food and water, but if you had something, and it doesn't even have to be a nuclear explosion, you have something where everything has broken down.

01:01:46.820 You have 72 hours to be away from people.

01:01:51.040 Otherwise, after 72 hours, if no help comes, the thing just goes into chaos.

01:01:56.480 And if you're known as the person with the food and everything else, I hope you have strong metal doors.

01:02:04.820 Right. Yeah.

01:02:05.900 I mean, there's a, there's a huge debate within the prepper community about, uh, bugging out versus bugging in.

01:02:11.000 Um, and it's kind of a rural versus urban debate, because if you're in an urban area, you probably want to get out of there.

01:02:17.540 Correct.

01:02:18.080 Um, you know, as, as you said, the preppers have this saying 72 hours to animal.

01:02:24.020 Um, it doesn't, it, it takes about three days before people start really falling apart.

01:02:30.820 Um, people will actually, you know, sociological studies have shown that in disaster people, their first reaction is to help others.

01:02:39.080 Right. Um, and that will carry on for a couple of days until the people who are providing assistance start suffering and then things start collapsing.

01:02:50.720 So is it, is it that, or is it that it's 72 hours when you know, help isn't coming, then you start to have the bad guys go, we can take it all week week.

01:03:02.980 I mean, nobody's coming.

01:03:04.080 I think it's more of a sense of abandonment that, you know, once people realize help isn't coming, then you start to turn to yourself and your family rather than providing assistance to others.

01:03:15.940 And so, um, yeah, you know, what can you do?

01:03:19.480 Well, you know, if we're talking about existential threats, nuclear war, unaligned artificial intelligence, destroying us, you know, any MP that wipes out all of the electronics in the, in the country instantaneously.

01:03:32.900 This isn't really stuff you can prepare for pretty well, you know, but, but what you can prepare for is kind of minor turbulence, I call it, you know, the taps turning off or electricity being out for a day or two, you know, buy it, buy a backup generator, uh, build a go bag, um, that has your passport, your car titles, your birth certificate, you know, that kind of stuff.

01:03:59.820 And have that ready to grab at a moment's notice.

01:04:02.960 Those are things that everyone can do right now.

01:04:04.760 And it's really, it doesn't take much.

01:04:07.040 All right.

01:04:07.260 I want to come back though, because people are building bunkers and you've seen some of the greatest around the world.

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01:05:48.480 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:05:50.760 We're talking to, uh, Dr. Bradley Garrett.

01:05:53.260 He is the author, uh, of a book called Bunker, Building for the End Times.

01:06:00.840 He was not necessarily, as he just said a few minutes ago, a prepper.

01:06:06.620 Uh, he was just interested, uh, more of a, in the societal effects and reasons of, of prepping.

01:06:14.180 Uh, and, uh, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, considers himself a prepper himself after listening to the people, uh, and why they were building these bunkers.

01:06:23.200 You saw some really incredible bunkers, I'm guessing.

01:06:30.780 Oh, Glenn, it was, it was such a privilege to write this book because I was able to travel to eight different countries, uh, looking at government and private bunkers.

01:06:40.460 And I, I got access to some of the most elaborate, luxurious, and incredible, uh, private installations on earth.

01:06:49.960 There's one in Europe someplace.

01:06:52.580 I can't remember where it is, where it's a, a huge underground compound.

01:06:57.420 Um, did you get into any of those?

01:06:59.960 Uh, so I think, I think you're probably referring to Europa one, which is, uh, a development, um, for millionaires and billionaires.

01:07:10.780 Yeah.

01:07:11.680 So the problem, the problem with a lot of these bunkers is that, um, the, the developers that are building them, uh, are trying to sell space before they're built.

01:07:21.300 And they create these CGI representations and photorealistic images of bunkers that do not exist.

01:07:30.360 And Europa one is one of those, unfortunately, um, I, I, I, I chased that rabbit for quite a while before I, before I realized that there was nothing there.

01:07:41.180 Um, but there are plenty, but there are plenty of examples of, uh, of bunkers that have been built, uh, that I was able to tour that are absolutely incredible.

01:07:51.800 Um, the, the gold standard being the survival condo in Kansas.

01:07:55.460 Did you ever run into that one?

01:07:56.780 No.

01:07:57.140 Uh, okay.

01:07:58.780 This, this is absolutely amazing.

01:08:00.440 So there was a, uh, uh, a developer named Larry Hall.

01:08:04.520 Um, he bought this Atlas S missile silo from the federal government.

01:08:09.980 Oh, yes.

01:08:11.140 Yeah.

01:08:11.640 This was a missile silo that would have contained an ICBM with a nuclear warhead on it.

01:08:16.500 Obviously they've been, they've been decommissioned since the cold war.

01:08:19.400 Uh, and then the government is left holding the bag.

01:08:22.320 You know, what do we do?

01:08:23.240 What do we do with these things?

01:08:24.480 So they put them up for sale and Larry Hall bought one of these bunkers for $300,000.

01:08:30.340 Uh, it's got nine foot concrete walls and it's 200 feet deep.

01:08:37.420 And, uh, he had to pump, he had to pump a bunch of water out of this thing.

01:08:41.260 Cause it's in the middle of a, uh, uh, you know, agricultural fields in central Kansas.

01:08:46.640 And, uh, he ended up building, he spent $10 million building a subterranean skyscraper.

01:08:55.700 I call it a geoscraper in my book.

01:08:58.000 I'm not sure what else to call it.

01:08:59.760 Um, but imagine a skyscraper turned upside down.

01:09:02.400 You know, if, if it were, uh, the other way around, it would be the second largest,

01:09:07.000 second highest building in Kansas.

01:09:09.300 Holy cow.

01:09:10.180 Right.

01:09:11.560 Yeah.

01:09:11.780 But he built this thing upside down.

01:09:13.400 So there's fit, there's 15 stories underground and he's got, uh, a swimming pool, a rock climbing

01:09:22.480 wall, a dog park, um, residential structures.

01:09:26.760 He's got a dentist, uh, surgery rooms.

01:09:30.920 Yeah.

01:09:31.360 Yeah.

01:09:31.580 Yeah.

01:09:31.780 Yeah.

01:09:31.960 He's got a shoot.

01:09:32.740 He's got a shooting range down there.

01:09:34.040 Three armories, uh, a cinema, uh, I, I, I mean, it's just a bar, a bar, which I'm not sure

01:09:42.220 that's the best idea.

01:09:45.420 If everyone's confined underground to have them drinking at the bar, but, um, he's also

01:09:50.860 got a jail cell.

01:09:51.980 If things go wrong, you know, they can chuck someone in there and he's even got a quarantine

01:09:56.100 facility.

01:09:56.660 So he's got a, uh, a separate unit connected to the, the, uh, uh, medical room where he

01:10:04.340 can quarantine someone if they're sick.

01:10:06.120 And then it has the, uh, uh, a ventilation system that's disconnected from the rest of

01:10:10.120 the bunker.

01:10:10.660 I mean, it's, I, I, um, I'm just looking at it online.

01:10:14.780 Just, just, uh, just search for, um, uh, what was a survival condo in Kansas?

01:10:22.400 It's amazing.

01:10:24.200 Amazing.

01:10:24.680 It is absolutely, it is absolutely incredible.

01:10:26.760 And I, I can tell you, I looked at the photos of this thing.

01:10:29.920 I had been disappointed again and again when I was writing this book, as I mentioned, I

01:10:33.580 would show up, there was nothing there, or I would get, you know, um, people would become

01:10:38.900 very evasive when I asked to see it in person.

01:10:42.600 Larry, on the other hand said, come on over.

01:10:45.220 And I, I drove up from Texas, uh, at rapid speed to, to go see the bunker.

01:10:51.040 And, um, it exceeded all of my expectations.

01:10:54.820 I mean, it's, I want to go see it aquaponics facility in there.

01:10:59.080 They're raising tilapia.

01:11:00.440 They've got a, they've got a grocery store that he modeled on whole foods where you actually

01:11:05.140 get the cart and you go and you get your cans and you get your fresh bread and you can have

01:11:09.400 a coffee made by the barista.

01:11:10.760 How many, wait, how many people can stay in there?

01:11:14.640 So he's currently, he's, he's sold space to about 60 people down there.

01:11:19.600 And, and, um, uh, so he sells either a half floor or a full floor condo.

01:11:26.120 The half floors I believe are, are 1.5 million and the full, full floors are 3 million.

01:11:31.560 Um, but the thing that's really weird when I, when I spoke to him about it is he said,

01:11:38.320 look, I asked him, what kind of group dynamic do you have down here?

01:11:42.380 Yeah.

01:11:42.680 Yeah.

01:11:43.020 Like, you know, does everyone, have they met each other?

01:11:46.220 Do you have get togethers?

01:11:48.080 Right.

01:11:48.540 Uh, do you have like a complimentary skill set?

01:11:51.440 Right.

01:11:52.000 You know, obviously you need the dentist, you need the doctor, you need someone who can make

01:11:55.620 coffee, you know what I mean?

01:11:56.580 You need all these people to get this thing to function.

01:11:59.880 And he said, look, Brad, when someone's writing you a check for one and a half million dollars,

01:12:04.400 you don't ask any questions.

01:12:06.540 Oh, I do.

01:12:07.880 I do.

01:12:08.800 You know, that's what, honestly, that's what would stop me from, uh, buying into something

01:12:14.660 like this is I want to know that the people I'm with are not crazy zombie fighters.

01:12:21.220 You know, they're, they're not, let's go get up in there that, that we all are like-minded.

01:12:27.880 Um, and you know, when, when society breaks down, somebody always tries to be in charge

01:12:33.920 and we've seen this in, in every disaster movie, you know, somebody is in there and

01:12:39.660 they're like, I got this.

01:12:41.360 You'll all sit down.

01:12:42.480 You're like, Oh crap.

01:12:43.720 So I kind of like, and that's, and that's what Larry told me.

01:12:47.340 He said, he said, you know, when, when the event takes place and everyone retreats to

01:12:53.180 the bunker, uh, they're not making any decisions at that point.

01:12:56.760 I closed the door and, and myself and my security team decides who's doing what and when, because

01:13:03.420 you know, we can't have an insurrection.

01:13:05.700 We can't have a mutiny inside this ship.

01:13:07.980 I mean, I love this.

01:13:09.860 So a lot of the preppers talk to me about their bunkers as being a ship that travels through

01:13:14.780 time rather than space, which I just found totally fascinating.

01:13:19.200 What does that mean?

01:13:19.860 So they said, so, so you, you, you stockpile the bunker for three weeks, three months, three

01:13:26.620 years, five years, whatever, right?

01:13:28.360 You've got this kind of arbitrary time that you're going to pass through.

01:13:32.740 And they talked to me like it, like it was a journey.

01:13:35.680 Well, we're going to get in here and we're going to close the door.

01:13:38.260 And then we're all on the ship for three years.

01:13:41.720 And the goal is to exit the ship, right?

01:13:45.040 Like we made it to the other side and then we exit the thing.

01:13:48.640 And so maintaining order and stability isn't just, um, about, uh, technical engineering.

01:13:55.900 It's not just about, you know, stockpiling food and making sure that everyone is, is comfortable

01:14:01.280 and happy.

01:14:01.800 It's also about maintaining social cohesion, uh, about maintaining order inside the bunker.

01:14:07.980 And the easiest way to do that, of course, is through an extremely authoritarian structure

01:14:13.140 where you just say, you know, there's one person making the rules here and everyone's

01:14:17.040 following the rules.

01:14:17.800 And that's how we get off this ship.

01:14:19.300 I mean, that's what happens on a, on an actual ship on the ocean, right?

01:14:22.920 You've got a commander who says, everyone's following the rules or you get flogged.

01:14:27.020 And that's how those ships made it to their destination.

01:14:28.840 So do, do most bunkers that you saw, are they groups of people or are families doing this?

01:14:37.960 Well, so this is a change from the cold war.

01:14:40.440 In the cold war, you had this model where people were kind of, you know, digging up their

01:14:44.060 backyards and putting in a bunker for themselves and their family.

01:14:46.980 Um, and that model obviously excludes your neighbors, your community.

01:14:53.040 And so it can be somewhat alienating.

01:14:55.220 So a lot of the private bunkers that I, that I visited when I was writing this book, um, had

01:15:01.220 a very different model.

01:15:02.620 It was more like a commune, honestly, you know, they said, we're going to bring people in.

01:15:08.640 We want people to have complimentary skills.

01:15:10.640 We want to make sure everyone gets along and that we have a tribe essentially, because

01:15:17.100 smart, surviving, surviving on your own is really hard.

01:15:20.660 Um, you really need community.

01:15:22.800 You need other people, um, to be able to make it through a situation, particularly if it's

01:15:28.040 lasting for months on end.

01:15:29.760 And so a lot of these new bunker communities that have sprung up in the past 10 years or

01:15:33.840 so, they're, they're based on a, a community model that anthropologists studied in the, in

01:15:39.860 the 1960s, where when you get to about 250 people, um, communities start breaking down

01:15:47.480 because that's, that's the point at which people don't really know each other as well.

01:15:52.540 Correct.

01:15:52.980 And so that's kind of the limit of what you can do if you're going to build a really

01:15:57.580 survivable community.

01:16:00.000 So as you're looking at all of this and you were, you were looking at as an outsider at

01:16:06.700 first, um, how sane does it seem to be to do these things or is this just going to be

01:16:16.520 remembered as like a 1950s backyard bunker that just, you know, was never used?

01:16:25.120 Well, I, I think the thing that people are, are creating now because it's based on a sense

01:16:30.640 of community. Um, it will be, what people will remember is the times they had there. So I, I went

01:16:39.660 to another community called, uh, the X point in South Dakota. This is built by a California real

01:16:46.360 estate developer named Robert Buccino. Um, and he, he purchased 575 concrete bunkers that were left

01:16:55.560 behind from World War II. Again, the government doesn't know what to do with these things. You

01:17:00.040 know, they opened it up to cattle grazing and then eventually Robert came in and said, Hey,

01:17:04.840 I'll lease those bunkers and then I'll sublease them to preppers that want to have a safe space.

01:17:11.160 Uh, so I was there on day one of that thing opening. And I, and I was there when the first

01:17:16.100 four residents signed their, their, their leases to move into it. Now, a couple of years on,

01:17:23.800 there's about 40 families there. And, um, on 4th of July, it's a, it's a ride out there. It's really

01:17:30.820 fun. Everyone's out barbecuing. They bring their RVs, they bring their families. Uh, everyone knows

01:17:37.060 each other. It's a pretty tight knit community. Uh, I, I think, you know, when we look back on it

01:17:43.360 from the future, that's what people remember, you know, we, we, we bought this thing and, you know,

01:17:49.420 we could, we could have purchased, uh, you know, a pontoon or an RV, but instead we bought

01:17:56.380 this bunker in the middle of South Dakota and we had some amazing parties out there and we met

01:18:00.700 friends. And if something had happened, we could have gone to it. Um, of course the, you know, the,

01:18:08.500 the, the thing people are mostly thinking about is when something does happen, they've got a place

01:18:13.440 to go. And so, um, but it gives people a sense of peace, you know, um, we're, we're all living

01:18:21.940 with this incredible anxiety about, you know, global geopolitics, about internal strife within

01:18:29.920 the country. And the bunker for these people gives them a sense of, of solace. You know,

01:18:35.720 they know that they have a place to go. They know that they have a community that they can

01:18:39.400 return to, as you say, of like-minded people, right. Where they can, uh, they can retreat and

01:18:44.540 they can talk about what's happening and they can put a plan together and they spend their time out

01:18:49.000 there working on practical skills, which is a really cool thing because, you know, a lot of the,

01:18:54.660 the partisan political divides that we have right now, um, they get, they get annihilated when you

01:19:00.080 start talking about water filtration and installing solar panels and you know what I mean?

01:19:04.900 Yeah. Even just, we, we have a ranch and, you know, even just being

01:19:09.300 out there every Sunday and work in the ranch, you know, fit, mend in the fence, things like that.

01:19:15.560 A lot of stuff falls away and life becomes much more simple. And, uh, and, and it does give you

01:19:22.020 peace to know you have a place to go. Uh, Dr. Bradley Garrett, uh, the book is Bunker, the building,

01:19:28.900 uh, building for the end times, uh, highly recommend it, but Bradley, I'd love to have you on again.

01:19:34.280 You're fascinating. Thank you so much. Absolutely. It's been a pleasure, Glenn.

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01:21:12.320 Yesterday, uh, the Wednesday night special, you can get all of the research, uh, that we did

01:21:17.220 there's some really, um, important things in it. One of them can, do we have the Ronald

01:21:21.840 Reagan cut, uh, from last night? Listen to this while they preach the supremacy of the

01:21:28.800 state, declare its omnipotence over individual man and predict its eventual domination of

01:21:34.560 all peoples on the earth. They are the focus of evil in the modern world. Can I ask you,

01:21:41.140 you know, you're, he's talking about the Soviet union, but think about what the great reset

01:21:46.860 and the WF and, and, you know, build back better is all about play that again. Think of the United

01:21:52.960 States while they preach the supremacy of the state, declare its omnipotence over individual

01:21:58.920 man and predict its eventual domination of all peoples on the earth. They are the focus of

01:22:05.000 evil in the modern world.

01:22:05.480 Doesn't that kind of sound like what we're doing now, right now? I mean, we're, we're like,

01:22:11.000 you know, saying the administrative state is going to run everything and, uh, you're, we're all going

01:22:17.160 to just all march in line and you're certainly farther down that road than I'd like to be.

01:22:22.000 Yeah, me too. Me too. Um, anyway, we, um, we shared the pertinent information and took you through

01:22:30.220 the history of why we haven't blown each other up, uh, and, and then gave you some evidence that

01:22:38.080 maybe times are changing and they shouldn't, but maybe they are. Should we be prepared? All of the

01:22:45.240 research, everything from last night's show is available now at glennbeck.com. If you just sign

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01:23:05.040 it's the type of thing that, uh, you know, only happens to other people. It only happens to other

01:23:08.600 people. That's what I was thinking. Really? Yeah. Well, you're an idiot. Um, but to convince you,

01:23:12.740 it's not a way to get me to buy something. Well, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying you're an

01:23:16.580 idiot. Okay. Um, think of this. This is something, somebody who actually did this stuff and what he

01:23:21.700 was doing. Listen, okay. I'm listening. Nobody thinks that I can take their house and borrow against the

01:23:25.800 house. No, no, I have title insurance for that. No, it's in my name. Or he would have to get some

01:23:30.920 special document. They would call me, you know, nobody's calling you after I've stolen the title,

01:23:36.740 barred against it or sold the property or done whatever I've done with it. It's 60 to 90 days.

01:23:41.340 Even figure out that they're the victim of this crime. You know, by that point, you start getting

01:23:44.860 foreclosure notices and you realize you've got four mortgages on your house. Not only that, you don't

01:23:50.200 even own your home anymore. No, he didn't actually take your house, sir. Uh, just, just know that

01:23:56.060 don't be like Glenn and, uh, and wait, who's that happened to you? I mean, was that the radio

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01:26:40.700 you could have told me, given me a better clue. We just talked, I think it was on Friday and said,

01:26:46.200 are you thinking about running for president? You're like, I'm thinking about it. Come on, you knew,

01:26:52.200 you knew. Glenn, I think I said I was very seriously considering it. I talked about every

01:26:58.640 possible hint I could have on the show. No, I mean, we hung up and I said on the air,

01:27:03.460 he's running. He's absolutely running. Yeah. Come on. I gave it to you. I know. Exactly. Uh,

01:27:08.420 so, uh, Vivek, first of all, um, you are not known as a politician or somebody who's ever done this.

01:27:17.440 You're known as a CEO. We'll get into some of that. What is it that your platform, look, I mean,

01:27:23.460 like on with Russia, what, what would you do as president with what we're going through now

01:27:29.000 in Ukraine? I think foreign policy is all about prioritization. Glenn, I would not spend another

01:27:36.480 dollar on Ukraine. I would reprioritize that to take on the number one foreign policy challenge,

01:27:42.020 which is declaration of independence from communist China. I think we can declare economic

01:27:48.520 independence and defeat them economically. So we don't have to militarily. That's number one.

01:27:53.580 And the number two, if there's a use case for the U S military and weapons, it is actually to protect

01:27:58.800 our border and to take on. And I would go so far as to say, decimate the cartels, a hundred thousand

01:28:04.900 fentanyl deaths in the United States today, 80% of which comes from Southern border crossings.

01:28:10.220 Deal with that. Protect our soil here. We could do that for a fraction, Glenn, of the cost that it

01:28:17.680 takes to, you know, fight a foreign war somewhere on the other side of the world that has far fewer

01:28:22.180 American interests tied to it. I was in New Hampshire yesterday. And actually, one of the things that

01:28:25.880 surprises me, Glenn, is how broad the support for that idea for those foreign policy prongs is.

01:28:31.120 Oh, yeah.

01:28:31.580 And it's amazing to me that the defense establishment doesn't, you know, it says you can't say that in

01:28:35.580 polite company, but that gives you a sense for where I am on foreign policy.

01:28:38.440 So let me ask you, Vivek, I mean, the Donald Trump was an outsider. He came in and he's told me

01:28:45.060 several times personally, he had no idea. He knew it was bad, but he had no idea that he wouldn't be

01:28:51.560 able to trust a soul in Washington. He had no idea how deep the deep state was and how powerful it was.

01:28:59.400 What makes you think you could go in and rock everyone's world?

01:29:06.020 Well, he's told me the same thing, and he's a friend. And honestly, I take inspiration from what

01:29:10.640 he did in 2015. I just think we got to take this to the next level. Part of this is going to have

01:29:16.200 to be just involving shutting agencies down full stop. Now, are there costs and benefits to that?

01:29:22.320 Yes. But I think we live in a moment where the benefits outweigh those costs.

01:29:27.260 So when you say shut agencies down, what agencies are you talking about?

01:29:32.380 Department of Education. Let's start there. I was speaking to the Iowa legislature this morning,

01:29:36.520 congratulating them for what they did with school choice in Iowa. I said we need to eliminate the

01:29:40.120 federal Department of Education. But many other three-letter acronyms, even much of the national

01:29:44.340 security apparatus, Glenn, has to be shut down and replaced in those cases with something new.

01:29:49.660 Because when a managerial rot runs so deep, you can't reform it by putting a different figurehead

01:29:54.580 at the top. You have to shut it down and build something new to take its place. And here's the

01:29:59.660 other thing. I mean, I could say this. Donald Trump knows this just as well as I do from being a CEO.

01:30:03.460 If you can't fire somebody who works for you, that means they don't work for you. It means you work

01:30:08.980 for them. You are their slave. We need to replace these civil service protections with sunset clauses

01:30:15.240 saying that, you know what, if I can't be the next president of the United States and work for the

01:30:18.840 federal government for more than eight years, then neither should anybody who works for me.

01:30:23.760 Those federal bureaucrats got to be subject to eight-year sunset clauses.

01:30:27.040 How are you going to get that done? I mean, you have to have a Congress that has the balls to do

01:30:33.080 these things. And I'm not sure you have the Congress on either side of the aisle. You got a few.

01:30:38.680 Glenn, you're asking all the right questions, right? So I take a strong view of the Constitution here.

01:30:43.920 Article two of the Constitution says that the president of the United States runs the federal

01:30:48.340 government, period. So if Congress isn't willing to act as president, I am. And I have studied the

01:30:54.600 Supreme Court and the composition of the Supreme Court right now. You want to take this one and test

01:30:59.340 it in the Supreme Court with me? Great. We can then use judicial precedent to make sure that we lock that

01:31:04.040 in. I believe that Clarence Thomas and others on the court today will be right there with me on my

01:31:10.340 view of Article two and how that reads in the Constitution to say that a lot of these other

01:31:15.060 quasi-unconstitutional statutes from the Impoundment Prevention Act of 1974 that says that actually the

01:31:22.380 president has to spend money on specific agencies that Congress has actually authorized it to have to

01:31:27.860 spend on, that's authorization, not a mandate. Firing and civil service protections, as I said,

01:31:32.540 if you're running the federal government, under Article two of the Constitution, the president runs the

01:31:36.760 executive branch. I take the Constitution seriously. And you know what? I think the friendly way to do it

01:31:41.540 is to lead Congress. I personally think that 2024 can actually be a landslide election, Glenn.

01:31:46.480 I'm a separate topic for another day. I'm optimistic about that. But if we don't get it done that way,

01:31:51.540 we will get it done through executive authority per what the Constitution empowers a president to do.

01:31:58.300 This is what, again, I talk about. America first, I'm all in as an America first conservative.

01:32:01.680 We've just got to take this to the next level with what I repeatedly am now calling America first

01:32:07.220 2.0. And that's a big part of the reason I'm doing this.

01:32:10.880 So why did you change? You said you were a libertarian. Why did you decide you were a

01:32:17.400 conservative over a libertarian?

01:32:19.820 I used to be a libertarian college, actually. I had this discussion with folks in New Hampshire

01:32:23.480 yesterday, too. There was a couple libertarians that came to one of my rallies last night.

01:32:28.520 But here's the thing. Libertarians, I got two issues. One is they're too meek, actually. So

01:32:35.620 they'll talk about the free market, and they say they don't want to make political expression a

01:32:39.200 civil right, as I believe we need to in this country. Yet they don't actually touch the other

01:32:43.620 protected classes like race or sex or religion or national origin. And so my view is these

01:32:48.100 libertarians today, with all due respect, have their heads in the sand, because you can't have

01:32:51.980 it both ways. That's problem number one. But problem number two is deeper, which is, you know,

01:32:57.440 what do we do in that free world, even when the state's out of our hair? There's still the deeper

01:33:01.680 question of purpose as a citizen, how we live our lives, how we live virtuous lives. And I care about

01:33:07.640 virtue in civic life and in family life and in faith-based life, too. Not to say that the government

01:33:13.540 necessarily should be involved or mandating those things, but those things matter for human flourishing,

01:33:17.840 for American flourishing. And libertarianism has nothing to say about that. That is why I call

01:33:21.980 myself a conservative today, in contrast to 15 years ago, when I thought I was a cool kid in

01:33:25.860 college calling myself a libertarian. So we're talking to Vivek Ramaswamy. He is running for

01:33:29.940 president of the United States as a Republican. We've gotten to know each other over the World Economic

01:33:36.660 Forum and ESG, and you are not only one of the biggest voices against it, you're actually,

01:33:45.600 you've put into action, strive management, where you are saying, invest with us, we'll do better

01:33:52.920 with your money than, you know, BlackRock, and we're going to use the voting rights that we get

01:33:59.240 to try to tell these companies, don't do these woke things. But there's some charges out about you

01:34:09.300 that I'd just like to hear you answer. You were nominated and selected as a World Economic Forum

01:34:16.560 Young Global Leader in 21.

01:34:21.300 This is hilarious. Thank you for this opportunity. This is actually a lot of fun for me.

01:34:27.000 Look, part of the politics, I think there's a lot of people on the left and on the right who are

01:34:30.420 threatened by my entry into this race. So I welcome the opportunity to have this debate in the open.

01:34:34.820 All right. I think you know this. I don't like to boast about myself, but I would go so far as to

01:34:39.200 say no one. And I mean, no one in this country has been a bigger, both doer and crusader against

01:34:45.400 the World Economic Forum agenda than probably the two of us on this call. I would challenge somebody

01:34:50.260 to name, I really mean it. I would challenge anybody to name one for me. If you really pressed me,

01:34:56.380 I would name maybe Elon Musk. And guess what? He's named on that same website of the World Economic

01:35:01.160 Forum. Somebody else, financially, friend Peter Thiel, he's been named on that same website.

01:35:06.420 You want to know why? Here's the dirty little secret. And I've seen this firsthand. I experienced

01:35:10.560 it firsthand. The World Economic Forum names you on their website without your permission.

01:35:15.320 So the funny part is, I have a book coming out later this year where I actually detail this

01:35:18.840 experience. I have phone calls, emails, and I was respectful about it. I believe in being civil.

01:35:24.080 But I said, do not name me on your website because I do not accept your award. I don't want to speak

01:35:28.580 at your conference. They tell me, oh, no, no, no, no. You misunderstand. We have all the global

01:35:33.220 billionaires here. Mark Zuckerberg was a young global fellow. They gave me the list of names.

01:35:37.380 No, no, no, no, Vivek, you don't understand. This is an honor. I respectfully disagree. I don't want

01:35:42.160 to be named. And I don't accept your award. And then they go on to put my name on their website

01:35:47.220 anyway. Now, they've asked me to speak there and that kind of thing. I declined. But the funny thing

01:35:52.600 about me, and I was learning a little bit about how this partisan politics game works. You know,

01:35:56.300 Trump spoke at the World Economic Forum in Davos in 2018 and 2019. Do I hold that against him? No.

01:36:03.020 You don't know why? Because everyone who's as financially successful as me or Donald Trump or

01:36:07.500 Elon Musk or whoever else gets invited to speak. In my case, I said no, because this has been my

01:36:11.980 focus area. It would not have made sense for me to do it. In Trump's case, he said, yes, I don't hold

01:36:15.980 that against him. But I think it just reveals. One of the things that's been eye-opening to me about

01:36:21.220 the online version of the conservative movement is the rise of these clickbait conservatives that

01:36:26.860 it's sort of sad, want to mislead their own followers to advance what agenda I don't know.

01:36:32.880 But at the end of the day, I also don't want to complain about it. We're in the big leagues

01:36:35.720 of presidential politics. This is, you know, we all know it's a dirty game, but it's good to

01:36:40.180 keep your eye on the facts.

01:36:42.000 Well, I can verify one thing. The World Economic Forum has me on a list too, and they won't take

01:36:51.860 me off that list either. So it's just not the same kind of list. I know. So the next thing is that

01:37:00.400 you have a longtime association with Soros, and I'm probably the number one anti-Soros guy

01:37:09.200 in the world. Can I give you a one-word answer to that question? I know you're the number one

01:37:16.780 anti-Soros guy, so I'm not saying false to you. I'm saying false to the longtime association with

01:37:22.000 George Soros. Lie. 100% lie. Now, let me actually give you guys the facts. And again, these clickbait

01:37:29.500 conservatives online, I don't know if they feel threatened or whatever, and they need to make up

01:37:35.100 stuff. I was 25 years old when I went to law school. I got a scholarship funded by Paul Soros,

01:37:42.220 not George Soros, but Paul Soros, that allowed me at the age of 25 to pay for law school.

01:37:46.900 And I took it. You want to know why? Because I'm smart. Now, it's hilarious to me that the same

01:37:51.440 people who bring that fact up from when I was 25 years old, taking a scholarship funded partially

01:37:56.420 by somebody who's related to George Soros, don't say a word about the fact that, again, Donald Trump,

01:38:01.520 who I love, who I respect, I'm not criticizing him, took a $160 million loan from not Paul Soros,

01:38:06.460 but George Soros himself. I have no problem with it. You want to know why? Because it's business.

01:38:11.380 Donald Trump knows what he's doing. I don't think he's corrupted by that. I'm not criticizing him

01:38:15.560 for it. He's a friend. But I think it's funny, and I think it's revealing that these same people

01:38:20.320 will talk about a 25-year-old kid taking a scholarship to help him pay for law school from

01:38:24.680 a relative of George Soros, make a big deal out of that, without saying a beep about Donald Trump

01:38:29.980 taking a $160 million loan for George Soros. And I say that as a friend of somebody who respects

01:38:33.880 Donald Trump, because I don't think that that disqualifies him or taints him in any way,

01:38:38.380 because he's a man of integrity, and he's doing business the way he knows how. But I think that

01:38:42.440 when you're in positions like I've been or Donald Trump's been, you get that. I think if you're

01:38:46.460 sitting online all day on Twitter, it can be a very different story.

01:38:49.860 All right. I've got one more question in this line here. And that is, you're a biotech guy,

01:38:57.080 and in bed with big pharmaceuticals, and a big proponent of mRNA shots. And, you know,

01:39:06.600 you've never critiqued Pfizer.

01:39:13.260 So let me say a couple things. First of those things is true. I'm a biotech guy. I'm proud of

01:39:20.180 my success in biotech. Then five of the medicines I worked on personally oversaw in the company that

01:39:26.320 I founded are FDA approved products today. That is now a multi billion dollar company,

01:39:30.540 a seven billion dollar company that I led as CEO. One of those drugs is a drug for prostate cancer,

01:39:35.780 another for women's health conditions from endometriosis to uterine fibroids,

01:39:39.800 to psoriasis, to one that's particularly touching for me. It's an approved therapy for kids who were

01:39:45.680 born with a genetic disease that caused them to die by the age of two, at 100% fatality rate by the age

01:39:51.660 of two or three. Now, a majority of them have an opportunity to live lives of potentially a normal

01:39:56.100 duration. I'm proud of those things, Glenn. I will not apologize for it. That is part of what makes

01:40:00.120 America great. And is part of what makes innovation great is it empowers human beings to live better

01:40:04.980 lives. That is not an association with anything other than human innovation and a commitment to

01:40:11.740 actually making people prosper by addressing diseases and treating them.

01:40:15.520 Now, the idea that I am a proponent of some sort of vaccination agenda. No, I am. I'm on the record

01:40:21.520 right now. I oppose vaccine mandates. I think that there has been a lot of rampant government lying

01:40:28.020 and mistrust appropriately. So did the American public because of how badly they handled this issue.

01:40:33.820 But I think we can't go to a place where we say that now we don't want people working on innovative

01:40:38.220 medicines to treat diseases from prostate cancer to psoriasis, to genetic conditions in children.

01:40:43.820 No, I think that we ought to stand up for the innovation that makes us who we are. And I'm proud of what

01:40:49.380 I accomplished. All right. Talking to Vivek Ramaswamy back with him in just a second. Jim wrote in about

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01:41:50.960 Let me go back to your platform. A good friend of ours, David Harsany,

01:42:06.060 has a pushback a bit on one of your platform policies. Like to hear your response.

01:42:10.800 Yeah. Some, I think, respectful questioning about one of your policy proposals, Vivek,

01:42:16.020 about making political ideas protected right. I think there's a lot of appeal to conservatives who

01:42:21.100 continually get fired from their jobs over what they believe. He says, though, we could have some

01:42:27.760 negative side effects. He says, your idea would potentially make it illegal not only for Disney

01:42:33.220 to fire a social conservative, but for a Jewish restaurant to sever its relationship with an

01:42:37.020 Nazi. Or a hedge fund would be compelled to keep a Trotskyite who believe profits are evil on the

01:42:42.440 payroll. Or Walmart having to wait for the worker to spend his days trying to put big box chains out

01:42:48.020 of business to leave on his own volition. How do you walk this line? Because obviously there is a lot

01:42:53.220 of really negative consequences coming from this, but if we make this a civil right, does it go too far?

01:43:00.860 Great question. These are the kinds of things we actually should be talking about. It's a great

01:43:04.180 question. Thank you. So here's what I would say. I would give Congress a choice. Either you repeal the

01:43:10.400 protected classes as they exist, okay? Race, sex, religion, national origin, sexual orientation,

01:43:15.800 and you actually leave it to the free market, or you have to apply those standards even-handedly.

01:43:21.680 But you cannot have it both ways. And I'm going to, since this is, you know, since I know who I'm

01:43:26.080 talking to here, it's a pretty sophisticated, you know, counterpart here. Glenn in particular

01:43:30.200 understands this. I know. Let me explain exactly how those civil rights laws and protected classes

01:43:35.860 created the conditions for viewpoint discrimination. We have two minutes. Go ahead.

01:43:40.000 There's no right statutes, right? Yeah. So Lyndon Johnson thought it was just prohibiting

01:43:43.360 discrimination on the basis of race. But they've now been interpreted to say that that includes

01:43:47.060 hostile work environments against religious minorities. What's one of the ways that now

01:43:51.560 you can create a hostile work environment? It's by wearing a Trump hat to work. It's by saying the

01:43:55.920 wrong thing on social media. So ironically, the law created the conditions for viewpoint-based

01:44:01.060 discrimination while leaving political viewpoints unprotected. So you're not going to say you can't

01:44:05.460 have it both ways. If you can't fire somebody for being black or gay or Muslim or white or Jewish

01:44:09.680 or whatever, you should not be able to fire somebody for being an outspoken conservative either.

01:44:14.700 We have to apply these standards even-handedly. And if you want to get rid of protected classes

01:44:18.780 altogether, great. I'll have that conversation. But no Republican or anybody else is willing to.

01:44:22.960 And so in the meantime, I think we need to bring civil rights into the 21st century to protect

01:44:26.900 political expression as a civil right. All right. Vivek, I love the fact that you're running.

01:44:36.380 I support anybody who is standing up for the Constitution, standing up for the right of

01:44:44.100 people, standing up against the endless wars and the lies. And you just are just able to run for

01:44:54.740 president, are you not? Didn't you just have a birthday? Are you, what, 36, 37, two years ago?

01:45:00.900 37. Yeah, you're 37. That would be a shocking change from what we have had traditionally since,

01:45:09.000 really, Clinton. And I think he was in his 40s. I only want people above 100 years old to run for

01:45:14.620 president. Really? Yes. I think we should go the other direction. I'm sorry, Vivek.

01:45:17.520 Okay. Vivek Ramaswamy, we'll talk to you again. Thank you so much. You can find out more at

01:45:23.860 vivek2024.com. Vivek2024.com. V-I-V-E-K 2024.com. All right. Stand by, there's more.

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01:47:06.520 I sincerely hope that Donald Trump will take us up on our offer tomorrow to be on the program.

01:47:23.540 I think it was one of the most political, politically savvy moves I have seen from a politician

01:47:31.740 in a very, very long time, if ever. And that was his trip up to Ohio yesterday and bringing stuff

01:47:41.440 bought on his own dime to help the people of Ohio. I just thought that was fantastic. And so,

01:47:49.100 you know, that is what he's like. He is that kind of guy that does amazing things for people and,

01:47:57.160 and does it because he can, uh, not for a photo op. I mean, long before he was running for president,

01:48:02.940 he, he was, he reached out to you in a way you've described before as being thoughtful. Yeah. Very,

01:48:08.100 very, very, he is. He, it's weird. He is, he is a steamrolling wrecking machine. At the same time,

01:48:16.360 he is a really thoughtful guy. And for a long time, I didn't understand how to put those two together.

01:48:23.140 I thought one had to be fake. It's not one's business and one's him. You know what I mean?

01:48:30.900 Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's understandable why it's hard to put that together. There's not a lot of

01:48:34.760 people who are like that. No, there's not. What'd you think of, uh, Vivek? You know,

01:48:39.500 I like Vivek a lot. It's, it's interesting to see how you brought up a lot of those criticisms.

01:48:43.380 Some of them have come, uh, from, you know, I think a lot of surrogates for other candidates and,

01:48:48.140 and, uh, you know, uh, some conservative, uh, some conservative writers and such. Uh, some of

01:48:53.520 them I think are just, I mean, you know, he's on listed on a site, the world economic form is,

01:48:58.740 uh, forum for someone who's been successful and he didn't come and speak. There is not to me a

01:49:03.460 really good, you know, noteworthy criticism. Uh, you know, and it's interesting to see how,

01:49:09.540 when you announce for president, how kind of things change. I mean, he's been on the show a bunch of

01:49:13.380 times and everyone cheered him on as being this anti-woke warrior. And the second you announce

01:49:18.200 for president, there's a lot of new criticisms that come out of the woodwork. Um, you know,

01:49:22.520 I, I, I tend to be more like, I think his proposal is, is interesting. And I, and part,

01:49:28.740 part of me wants to cheer it on when it comes to making a political speech, a civil right. But like,

01:49:34.260 I, I, I, I can see David Harsany's and others criticism on this, like how this would play out.

01:49:40.520 Cause yeah, we can all cheer on and say, Hey, we don't want conservatives to be fired from Disney,

01:49:44.380 but we also know what that means on the other side too. When you have at your employment,

01:49:49.000 some crazy socialist who, uh, has views that are against your company and you have to keep them

01:49:55.100 employed because of this, it would be a real problem. Okay. So he's, he's either, he's either

01:50:02.100 hasn't thought this one through, um, or, um, I just disagree with him, you know? Yeah.

01:50:10.020 But there's another possibility that he is so smart. He knows that anytime a libertarian says,

01:50:17.960 let's get rid of that. What do they, what do they say? You mean get rid of all the protected

01:50:21.640 classes? Yeah. They say, Oh, you're racist, racist, homophobe, you know, you're, you're against

01:50:26.140 sponges, whatever it is. But this happened to Rand Paul back in the day. All the time. Yeah. So

01:50:30.860 this gives him the ability to pull coals through that without calling for an end to that, just

01:50:39.760 saying, Oh, well then we're going to balance the field. We're going to make everything, uh, you

01:50:44.940 know, a protected class because freedom of speech, you got to make that political freedom of speech,

01:50:50.160 a protected class, which they will not want to do. Okay. Well then let's get rid of all of them

01:50:55.280 because it could be the, the things that you're saying won't work because of political, you know,

01:51:02.060 political games. Well, yeah. Okay. I agree with you. Yeah. And that's why half of the country thinks

01:51:08.300 the other protected classes don't work. Yeah. And, and, you know, in, in, if you're a candidate

01:51:14.180 like Vivek, you can't be a game manager. You can't be, you know, a gay manager, not a game manager.

01:51:20.880 You can't be a game manager. Oh, okay. Game manager. What's a game manager? Well, a game

01:51:26.480 manager. Hi, welcome to my floral shop. You should understand what a game manager is. It's a manager

01:51:31.340 who's gay, right? I know, but I didn't understand it in this particular. It wouldn't make sense. Okay.

01:51:37.120 Well, but like you have to be a game manager, game manager. It's a common term in sports, which is

01:51:42.740 why I, why we had this problem. Okay. So a game manager, a quarterback is a guy who runs the system.

01:51:48.620 He can hit the open receiver. He can make all the throws you need in your offense. And he's a great

01:51:54.580 guy to have. If you have a great defense, for example, my homie. No, he's absolutely. You're

01:52:01.620 talking about Patrick Mahomes and no, Patrick Mahomes is not a game manager. I don't, he's also

01:52:06.120 not a game manager, but he's, yes, he could do all those things, but so much more. He's the, one of the

01:52:10.020 best quarterbacks of all time. Right. Well, I would think that a game manager would be one of those guys

01:52:15.260 that could do, would be one of the greatest of all times. Why else would you be a game manager?

01:52:20.600 Why would I try a sports analogy on the show? It's my fault. It's my fault. It is your fault. I should

01:52:25.740 be fired for that. This is why you're not in the Hall of Fame and I am. Exactly. Yes. This is the exact

01:52:30.380 example. I want to, I want to bring it directly to the Hall of Fame for consideration. And there you have

01:52:36.340 it. Another example of why Glenn Beck is in the radio Hall of Fame. I don't know why he obsesses.

01:52:42.780 So you go into a supermarket and you ask for the manager and he's gay. What's the big deal?

01:52:48.400 Not a big deal. Okay. To try to explain briefly. Okay. A game manager is a guy, a quarterback who

01:52:56.900 can stay within the system and do what you need to do, not screw it up, not lose the game for you.

01:53:02.020 A guy like Patrick Mahomes is something totally different. Who is, he'll throw, he'll throw a pass

01:53:08.560 with a sidearm and giving you the side eye at the same time. You do know a little bit

01:53:12.820 about Patrick Mahomes. No one else would state it that way, but yes, that's exactly. He can make

01:53:18.700 a spectacular play even when you're undermanned. Maybe you're coming from a disadvantageous

01:53:23.860 position. He can make all the incredible throws and he can single-handedly hero ball you to a

01:53:29.860 victory. And in some ways, I think as if you're a candidate like Vivek, who maybe a lot of people

01:53:34.400 don't know, you have to make bold proposals or no one's going to notice you. You can't come in

01:53:38.800 here with like, well, I would like to cut taxes by 6%. Like no one's going to, you have to make

01:53:43.340 bold proposals. And what, and this is the type of thing that Vivek wants to talk about. So maybe

01:53:49.180 making this as a little bit of an overstep as a full policy, but draws attention to his argument.

01:53:56.180 But does he have to play football?

01:53:57.900 Yes, he has to play football. Yes.

01:53:59.500 I don't understand.

01:54:00.460 And he has to play football as a gay man. So those two things need to occur for Vivek

01:54:05.460 to rise to the presidency.

01:54:06.380 Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I think you might be right. I don't

01:54:13.840 know Vivek real well, but we've gotten to know each other over the last year. And I do think

01:54:22.940 he's, he's a man of action. He's a guy who doesn't say things just to say. Oh yeah. You

01:54:31.480 know what I mean? So he's not, so I can see you. I could, I agree that that might be part

01:54:36.920 of his thinking, but if he's doing that, there is strategy behind it to be able to move that

01:54:45.200 forward.

01:54:45.820 And look, I think this is where the party is right now. You know, the praise for Donald

01:54:51.320 Trump, for Ron DeSantis, for what Vivek is doing here, a lot of it surrounds taking issues

01:54:58.020 that in the past 20 years have been looked at as issues you don't want to apply centralized

01:55:06.460 government power too. And that is the right at this moment is looking for people who will

01:55:12.700 selectively apply centralized government power to problems that really piss them off. That's

01:55:18.900 where the party is. It's where the movement is right now. I don't like it a lot of the

01:55:22.000 times, but that is where it is. And I think a lot of the candidates that are going to jump

01:55:25.940 into this race and have success are going to be the ones that do recognize that that's

01:55:30.400 where voters are right now.

01:55:31.280 Well, can we survive though, as a party, as a nation, uh, as a people, if we don't see

01:55:39.960 nuance, for instance, um, he's a biotech guy. Great. Is he a public part, uh, public private

01:55:52.760 partnership biotech guy? Is he a guy who says, Hey, uh, wave all the rules for me. Cause I'm

01:55:59.680 in bed with the government. That's different. What, what, what we have, you know, I, I have

01:56:05.460 problems, real problems with the drug companies right now, but almost all of it stems from

01:56:12.340 being in bed with the federal government. If you're not in bed with the federal government

01:56:17.240 and the government is an honest broker, which ain't happening, then go ahead, do your drugs,

01:56:26.540 make your drugs. Let's make sure we hold you responsible. If they're killing people,

01:56:32.480 you know what I mean? But you should, we should be celebrating tech. We should be celebrating

01:56:37.860 new ideas and opportunities, but we're getting to a place to where we see things. We go,

01:56:44.220 mm, pharmaceutical bad.

01:56:46.660 Yeah. I look, I think this is really bad. And I think, you know, I, we can't become the party

01:56:52.980 of anti-medicine. That's not a good direction to go. And I would point out that while many people

01:56:58.700 have problems with the biotech industry and the insurance industry and, you know, the vaccines and

01:57:03.720 vaccine mandates and the doctors and the nursing schools and all this stuff that's being jammed now.

01:57:08.720 Yeah. It's so, it has to be on a case by case basis. I mean, I would point out that both

01:57:12.540 ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine came from big pharmaceutical companies.

01:57:16.980 Yeah. I know. Like, you know, this shouldn't be just a battle against medicine generally.

01:57:22.560 No, it has to look at these things individually. It has to be public private partnerships and

01:57:26.940 wokeness. Yeah. It's gotta be things that actually cancel science that actually say,

01:57:34.360 this is more important than what the data says. This is more important than, you know, a test run

01:57:42.320 or, you know, the failures. We got to lie about this or cut this corner because, because, because

01:57:50.420 wokeness that that's really what our fight should be about on all of this. Look, I don't mind if

01:57:57.960 when, you know, companies were saying, Hey, we're going to have a fund that is for environmentalists.

01:58:03.660 It's great. Good. Go for it. If that's the way you want to invest your money. Perfect.

01:58:08.620 Mm-hmm. But don't force everyone to do it. That's the real problem. It's not that we have,

01:58:15.360 you know, different tastes or different choices ahead of us. It's the government

01:58:19.560 picking winners and losers and forcing us usually into a loser. Yeah. And I think they're, look,

01:58:26.980 we're going to get a pretty big field, I think, of candidates by the time this is over. I don't

01:58:32.880 necessarily think that's a great thing. I don't want another 18. I know. And I'm worried we're going to,

01:58:37.400 we're going to, we're going to climb, I think. I'd love to have five, six. Yeah. That would be

01:58:42.280 interesting. You know, six and six different flavors, right? Six different approaches, not

01:58:46.660 a bunch of people who are doing it the exact same way. So far, I think the first three have

01:58:51.120 different approaches and that's, that's interesting. You're certainly going to, I think, see DeSantis

01:58:54.700 in as well. Eventually you're probably going to see Tim Scott in. These are all pretty serious

01:59:00.240 people that have different approaches. It's good. You'll probably get someone from the,

01:59:04.940 the left moderate anti-Trump type of vibe, Larry Hogan, somebody like that. Maybe Liz Cheney,

01:59:11.540 someone in that realm. Oh, I think Liz Cheney will do it. She's, I don't know. She's not even a,

01:59:16.160 there's not even registered Republican anymore. She's mad. Well, yeah. But somebody from that,

01:59:21.500 somebody from that realm is probably going to step in and not make any, any real,

01:59:24.960 or if you probably get someone from, if they don't, they'll raise money and it'll be a huge

01:59:30.200 pack against him, which is even more nefarious and also more likely. I mean, I think, I think

01:59:35.320 that's more likely nefarious. Thank you so much. All right. Back in just a second. Let me talk to you

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