On this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck is joined by a caller who voted for Joe Biden in 2016 and is now against him in 2020. Glenn and the caller discuss why they think Biden should have been the 2016 Democratic presidential candidate.
00:02:10.340So today, I really want to talk to people who disagree with me.
00:02:19.340Because I don't, you can disagree with me on things and, you know, that's normal.
00:02:27.700But I really don't understand people who, for instance, are Democrat and at this point, hasn't seen what is happening to our country and what has happened to the Democratic Party.
00:02:46.100So I want to talk to common sense Democrats.
00:02:49.720And what I mean is, I don't, no political hacks.
00:03:53.480To me, in case you want to call me stupid.
00:03:56.240Oh, I'll call you stupid whenever I want.
00:03:58.260I'm just saying to a caller who you're promising you'll be nice to, I won't then inject in the conversation and call you stupid while you're being nice.
00:04:32.960I just want to understand where you are.
00:04:38.660I don't want to just preach to the choir.
00:04:41.840I really want to understand the people who are sitting in the pews or the people who are outside of the church going, this is a sham inside that church.
00:04:54.080So while we're screening through the calls, can you give me a, like, are you looking for someone, let's say, who was a Clinton or Biden voter in the past two elections?
00:05:08.580Someone who's voted in the past, maybe someone who is looking at this election and saying, you know, I don't like what Biden's doing, but I can't deal with Trump or DeSantis or any of these Republicans.
00:05:19.940Preferably, but I don't know if anybody would call in, but preferably somebody who says, I still like Biden.
00:05:31.580Or, yeah, maybe, like, even though if you don't think he's the most dynamic candidate in the world, you like the policies better than you like the Republican policy.
00:05:39.660And, you know, you, you, you see what the media is saying about him as accurate.
00:06:53.960Where are you and what are you, what have you been thinking?
00:06:58.500Well, I'm disgusted with all the old guys running for office.
00:07:02.280And the fact that our, we just seem to be stuck in name games and name calling instead of worrying about what's happening to me, the average American who makes under a hundred thousand dollars a year.
00:07:14.540And I don't care what side of the aisle you're on there.
00:07:18.660They're, they're just, they're all in the, they're just not in it for me.
00:07:53.520Um, she seems willing to listen to everybody.
00:08:00.320I mean, the whole abortion question was very, you know, more centered on let's make a medical decision and not let's make a law.
00:08:11.780And, you know, there are women who have medical issues who almost die because the doctors are afraid to abort and the dot, the child is, you know, that that's not a viable, a viable fetus.
00:08:26.080So, or maybe, or whatever you want to call, you know, and the doctors are afraid they're going to lose their license and the woman almost loses her life because how sick do you have to be to be, um, you know, endangered your, your life endangered.
00:08:40.360And I just think that we're taking too many things, you know, here in Florida, you can't take a factual book about two penguins who happen to be male and raise an egg, you know, not the fact that it's just two birds that don't normally do things.
00:08:54.740It's just the fact that they're good birds, you know, I mean, and we have to take that out of the school because it's, okay, so you want to be interested in your child's life, be interested in your child's life, not your neighbor's child's life.
00:09:09.040Um, so, so, so where, where do you stand on schools and what's being taught, uh, in schools?
00:09:17.060Are you fine with the, uh, you know, drag queen story hour or drag queen story hour, I think is fine at the public library.
00:09:29.040And, you know, I can understand, I can see where parents should be able to up their kids out of that.
00:09:35.220And I don't know how many drag queens actually go into the schools.
00:09:38.340So, you know, so that, that, that, that I understand where parents can have a problem with that, but the library is a fine place to have that.
00:09:47.360So that now choice to bring your child there or not, would you be fine with Kirk Cameron coming in with religious, uh, centered books into the library?
00:10:09.080And, you know, bring a politician in maybe, I don't know, let Rick Scott go read a book for Kamala Harris.
00:10:16.480Not that we're going to get a VP in there or a Senator, but you know.
00:10:19.140So where do you stand, so where do you stand on parental rights in school on, um, you know, the parents having a right to know what their kids are doing?
00:10:34.740If they're transitioning, do the parents have a right to know that?
00:10:43.940Your child goes to school six or seven hours a day, and then you have them for 18.
00:10:50.120If you don't know what's going on with them, how involved of a parent are you is my first question.
00:10:56.700Um, now let's, let's say that's, you know, let's just accept that premise.
00:11:03.520Um, but should the school be able to keep information from you?
00:11:08.300I don't think they should be able to hide information, but I certainly don't think that they need to be saying your child wants to be called by a different name today.
00:11:20.420You know, there are children, especially little, you know, the younger kids.
00:11:24.680I mean, sometimes they want to be a dog, you know?
00:11:27.880I mean, they're just, they're just trying on what they hear in the world, what they hear at home, what they hear, you know, in school.
00:11:35.920And so is, do you think that's healthy mentally for them?
00:11:43.340I mean, I'm not talking about little kids.
00:11:45.560I'm talking about, you know, teenagers that say, I, I'm a dog.
00:12:01.680Wouldn't it be nice if we had some counselors at school so they could help them instead of one for every five high schools or, you know, two guidance counselors for 3,000 students in a high school?
00:12:12.720But should the parents be involved in that?
00:12:15.740Should the parents be notified if a school counselor is notified that they honestly think that they're a boy?
00:12:23.040I think they should ask their, I think they should be finding out if they've talked to their parents and encouraged them to talk to their parents.
00:12:31.720But I think we have a, I think, I think that's a small percentage of students.
00:12:35.460I think we have more bullies and we're concentrating on this.
00:12:38.860And we have more bullies who then go and shoot up schools.
00:12:43.480You know, and that's a bigger problem.
00:12:45.260I mean, if your child is trying to be trans and you don't know about it and you're upset about it, that's not going to affect me as much as your child is a bully and you know about it and you don't do anything and they go in and they shoot up my child.
00:13:03.300Yeah, I mean, I think those are two different issues.
00:15:21.360Could it could it be that the other states that are raising taxes and stifling business and stifling people on making choices for people instead of letting them make their own choices, that that influx of that many people is driving the housing prices up?
00:15:42.040We don't have a ton of people coming down.
00:19:07.980Okay, I don't want to start with, I don't want to start with anybody because I want to spend time today actually listening and talking and just asking questions.
00:19:26.540Michelle in Kansas, Jacob in Washington, Matthew, North Carolina.
00:19:34.840Michelle says she'd vote RFK Jr. over Trump.
00:19:48.280So, if you are somebody who has, who you happen to be listening to this program, you're listening for a reason today.
00:19:58.000I don't know what it is, but you're here for a reason.
00:20:01.020And if you happen to really disagree, I want to know how you got there.
00:20:05.240And I guess, you know, with Kathy talking about, you know, drag queen story hour, and there's no way to really know, and I don't think people would say this, but, you know, even Bill Maher said, you know, that no one is going to say a man could have a baby.
00:20:29.680His audience laughed at the idea that men could have a baby and that, oh, he even said, you know, where are you getting that, right winger?
00:30:08.500We have things like men can have babies and all kinds of different things, Marxism, et cetera, et cetera.
00:30:18.100Uh, and that is coming out of our schools is as, as the cause of most of this kind of thinking, the effect that you're seeing now on the streets, um, making our education even closer aligned.
00:30:38.180And all of it with government and a government that is, that colludes with the unions, you find that to be a better thing?
00:30:51.400Well, they're working on getting rid of cause and effect and they've done well as a business owner.
00:30:57.800There, there is a line of generation of people that were taught before a certain age and people taught after a certain age and they lose all cause and effect.
00:33:23.900Yes, that is, but you need to take it all over.
00:33:28.360You can't just do little bits and pieces.
00:33:30.380You know, healthcare went up in price because the people who were paying healthcare now has to pay for the people that weren't paying healthcare.
00:33:38.700Now, if you give everybody the healthcare all at the same, you know, big companies to smaller companies.
00:33:44.580That's why big companies are lobbying so they can kill us smaller companies because we can't afford doing all this Obama stuff.
00:33:51.200Wouldn't it be better if we, wouldn't it be better if we tried to limit and get rid of lobbying?
00:34:00.180It would, but we'll never win, ever, ever.
00:34:03.720You know, these companies are too big, too large, too powerful.
00:34:07.900You know, us smaller companies, there is no more mom-and-pop shops.
00:34:10.980And if there is, you know, we make less than what we could work for, for the bigger companies.
00:34:19.960So, I, I, I, Jacob, I so thank you for your, your call.
00:34:24.840I'm, I'm a small business owner as well.
00:34:27.400And, uh, I was offering my, uh, my employees the best health insurance available.
00:34:35.960In fact, at one point, I was the only Blue Cross Blue Shield employer in the entire state of New York and New York City that was still offering this plan because it became so grossly expensive after Obamacare.
00:34:50.180They eventually discontinued it, and Obamacare was charging me for a Cadillac tax, trying to do the right thing.
00:34:59.480Um, now that insurance isn't even offered at any price.
00:35:04.100Um, you know, I, I, I wonder if you really believe in cause and effect.
00:35:09.080You might look into, uh, the government's, um, getting into bed with the insurance companies and how they are limiting, again, more government, more corruption, higher prices.
00:36:21.020This is why our universities are so wildly expensive because once the government said, we'll take care of the loans, we'll guarantee the loans, we'll take care of the loans.
00:36:32.440The price of the university education went through the roof.
00:37:07.160Uh, every time you go to the range, it's like literally trying to, you know, you're just setting money on fire and it is so hard to do it because it's so rare and so expensive.
00:37:16.060I want to give you a, a high tech, easy to use system that is widely used by the military.
00:37:21.520Now started with the Marines and it is like having a Marine, uh, shooting instructor right next to you the whole time, except it is showing you digitally exactly where the barrel of your gun is going.
00:37:33.980As you pull the trigger, as you aim, and then it gives you instantaneously what you need to do to fix that.
00:38:35.760I don't believe it does a darn bit of good.
00:38:38.920They're all puppets anyways, especially when we got the deep state and we've got things going on behind the scenes and we could see it with this, with Trump.
00:38:48.000When he doesn't do what the system wants him to do, they bury him and these other, most politicians get in there and they just end up, they end up compromising and doing whatever they're told anyways.
00:39:05.660So what do you, so what do you suggest?
00:39:08.760Because I do believe there are a lot of good people that are in trying to fight, but they are overwhelmed by the, because we didn't pay attention for so long.
00:39:18.280So what is, what is your solution to that?
00:40:30.160Sometimes when you think, hey, something bad's coming around the corner, you know, you can freak out about it or you can just do enough to prepare.
00:40:45.960It usually, uh, is, uh, the case that, uh, something like, uh, unexpected right around the corner from so-called acts of God to acts of Congress.
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00:42:41.140For people who disagree with me or disagree with the right, people who have voted for Joe Biden, I really want to understand, you know, where you're coming from.
01:02:32.500I'll settle for just the prejudices you have inside yourselves.
01:02:35.360Show me how to get rid of the unlimited capacity for human beings to make themselves believe that they're somehow right and justified in stealing from somebody or hurting somebody.
01:02:44.760And you'll just about put this place here out of business.
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01:04:40.240We're doing something entirely different today.
01:05:01.500We're asking people that maybe voted for Biden and still are going to vote for Biden.
01:05:07.880How they got there, why they're there, how they see the economy, how they see the world, and also people who just disagree with some things that I would say.
01:05:21.800I really want to understand you, and I can't do that by trying to win a fight.
01:05:28.780I can't try to do that by arguing with you, but I can learn by asking you questions on what you think about things, how you got there, why is this a problem or not a problem.
01:05:43.920So I welcome you to call in, 888-727-BECK.
01:06:02.880I think his appointments have been outstanding.
01:06:05.880I think when it comes to thinking about the economy and thinking about how hard it is to be working class these days, the only way that we can really exert our power.
01:06:16.620I mean, there's really not much that comes down to a presidential election, really just two corporate candidates.
01:06:21.380I think we can agree on that, but if one corporate candidate is going to make it so that if companies interfere with union organizing, then a union gets to exist, that corporate candidate is giving more power to the workers than the alternative.
01:06:38.100And I think when we spend eight hours a day at work, all day, every day, that's where we spend our most time.
01:06:45.620That's where we have our most influence, and that's where we can grow our power so that maybe one day we don't have a two-party corporate duopoly.
01:06:54.100So, well, you know, the unions have, you know, they are in with the government now with Joe Biden.
01:07:08.320I don't really know how that works when you think about what happened with the railroad strike.
01:07:12.440Now, Biden totally undermined that effort.
01:07:14.660I don't really know how I would see that, and I don't know if the UAW president would agree with that.
01:07:18.960Can I get another issue, too, by the way?
01:07:20.280Well, I just want you to know that they've given billions of dollars to the Democratic Party, and you don't do that unless you're supporting.
01:07:28.920Right, because, like I said, Trump is not going to put anybody on the NLRB who's going to help unions.
01:09:51.940Nah, because what's more concerning to me, really, is trans rights, because I'm actually a mental health professional,
01:09:57.240and I work with people who are transgender every day, and I've got to tell you what I really see...
01:10:01.580Okay, no, no, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
01:10:04.740You're the first seminar caller I think I've had, so thank you for your call.
01:10:10.560You're the first one that seems to do this for a living, and I won't have conversations with people who will not answer the question and stay on topic.
01:10:28.140You know, and also, quite honestly, I'm not wasting time with people who say men can get pregnant.
01:10:39.520You don't understand basic science, and so it's not reasonable to have a conversation with you.
01:10:46.500And sort of behind the scenes, when we started, we were talking about the show this morning, that was what I thought we would get out of this.
01:11:50.920We need to challenge each other with our divergent thoughts and understand that neither side is evil or stupid and that most of us kind of fall.
01:12:06.560Well, probably 80 to 90 percent of us would agree with most things.
01:14:54.920I mean, I think most people are pro police, recognizing that certain things in police culture, you know, the George Floyd killing and stuff.
01:15:06.580I think that was a result of, you know, certain not being able to challenge to truly challenge he or she who is in command and everything.
01:15:18.640You know, those cultural things, I think, could be need to be addressed and everything.
01:15:24.980Of course, I do think that there is a level that there's a level of of bias and prejudice in policing that needs to be addressed or at least in everything.
01:15:37.560So now you said that you I want to make sure I understood that you felt that the riots on the street were because it was a logical, you know, you if you don't address it, it goes into that.
01:17:29.680I if you could follow my line of thinking here, like if you if you take like the Colin Kaepernick thing, peaceful protest.
01:17:38.620I I believe that maybe if his peaceful protests were not so demonized by.
01:17:51.060And once again, I don't want to I'm not blaming or anything like that.
01:17:53.960I understand. But the right side, if we if we acknowledge and and appreciate forms of peaceful protest, the thing is, is is that protest got so demonized.
01:18:06.240Then it's like, well, I mean, I don't I'm not I know.
01:18:12.860I don't think violence is wrong and everything, but we kind of took away.
01:18:16.960So if so, will you should have been a respectable police, the peaceful protest.
01:18:21.740Will you give the same benefit that all MAGA people or people who support Donald Trump or are on the right have been grossly demonized for the last 15 years?
01:18:33.900I 100 percent agree with you, you know, to and to and for the most part and everything.
01:18:41.220The demonization of rural, particularly white America is is tragic in so many different ways.
01:18:50.500I mean, as a as you know, the Democratic Party should understand how they lost.
01:18:55.180I mean, because you go back a few decades and those rural communities were frequently quite blue.
01:26:45.080I have to tell you and talking politics.
01:26:47.720Yeah, I will tell you, I think I've talked to people all over the country.
01:26:51.480I think when you get into when you get out of the cities and you get into places where, you know, it's it's it's not run by, you know, it's not Chicago.
01:27:22.320OK, so let me ask you, I want to ask you a series of questions just to see where you are and they're they're kind of ethical questions.
01:27:35.680But first, let me ask you, are you paying attention at all to the Hunter and Joe Biden laptop and and bribery scandal that is now impeachment investigation?
01:28:15.220OK, so let me ask you where and not just necessarily.
01:28:20.640You, but people that, you know, if if Donald Trump breaks the law.
01:28:29.460And I said this at the beginning of his impeachment, we were going to do investigation and I told my staff, I don't care whose side you're on.
01:28:39.740If he broke the law, he should go to jail.
01:28:43.420I believe that if you break the law, you go to jail, no matter if it hurts your side or not.
01:51:10.540I mean, is, is it enough proof to have the, uh, state department, the treasury, uh, and the white house all warning the president, the vice president, this looks really bad.
01:51:31.060It looks like money laundering that your son is involved in.
01:51:44.800Then we have the bank accounts and the offshore.
01:51:49.200If we see the money that is in those things, it does that matter?
01:51:54.820And what is it going to, what do you mean by proof?
01:51:57.660If I have the goods, if I have the, the banking records, because we already have the, what I think 150, what are called yellow flags, uh, from the treasury.
01:52:10.000The treasury department that banks call in and say, this is money laundering.
01:52:32.000And then you're all of a sudden saying, how the hell did I get here?
01:52:35.540An additional question that I'd be interested to hear from, I don't know, quote unquote, sensible liberals would be the idea of like, okay, let's say you can entertain the line where the corruption is proven to a point where you think this is a real problem.
01:52:53.420Maybe he should be impeached, but I, I, I'm curious as to what is the line that would actually make you change your vote, right?
01:53:03.480You might say, okay, well, Joe Biden, I think either should be impeached or he is guilty and I don't like him.
01:53:08.580But at what, is there more evidence in your mind that, you know, Donald Trump is bad or Ron DeSantis is bad that you wouldn't consider them?
01:53:17.340Here's what I think I learned today and it'll take me a while to really digest everything.