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00:02:54.320 Gee, is there anything we should be talking about?

00:02:56.600 Hey, how about that?

00:02:57.720 Isn't there a debate on or something tonight?

00:03:00.740 Big debate.

00:03:02.760 Probably a big week in America.

00:03:05.520 And we'll begin there in 60 seconds.

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00:05:00.460 Okay.

00:05:01.580 Let's get started here.

00:05:06.680 What is your problem?

00:05:08.380 What is your problem?

00:05:09.060 Nothing.

00:05:09.280 We'll talk about that a little bit later.

00:05:10.740 Okay.

00:05:11.060 So the debate is tonight.

00:05:12.740 Yes, it is.

00:05:13.880 And it is going to be an interesting one.

00:05:17.000 I don't think it can live up to the standards of the last one.

00:05:20.260 I just don't think it can get to that level.

00:05:22.340 Yeah, but wouldn't it be nice?

00:05:24.280 I think so.

00:05:25.180 Well, as long as it doesn't happen in the opposite direction.

00:05:27.500 Yes.

00:05:27.820 Yes.

00:05:28.280 Yes.

00:05:28.640 Yes.

00:05:29.100 Yes.

00:05:30.280 But there is a chance that either one of them could just step on a landmine.

00:05:35.860 It's very possible.

00:05:39.180 And I'm concerned.

00:05:41.100 Are you concerned?

00:05:42.340 What's your concern level?

00:05:43.460 One to ten.

00:05:44.260 Glenn Beck concern level going into tonight.

00:05:46.920 Because it's American politics and the stakes are so high.

00:05:50.460 One to ten.

00:05:51.500 One hundred.

00:05:52.380 Yeah.

00:05:52.600 I'm kind of there.

00:05:56.300 I don't know if we're there for the same reasons.

00:05:58.420 Why?

00:05:58.700 Because, I mean, the stakes are super high.

00:06:00.520 Yeah.

00:06:00.700 So obviously you're concerned.

00:06:02.580 Yeah, that's 99% of it.

00:06:04.240 Right.

00:06:04.780 Your concern is not Kamala Harris is an amazing debater.

00:06:08.380 No.

00:06:08.800 Right.

00:06:09.040 No, it's just that, you know, she's going to be doing everything she can just to get under his skin.

00:06:15.380 I mean, that is literally the plan is to get under his skin, make him angry so he says something.

00:06:24.100 Yep.

00:06:24.540 And, you know, I just hope that he is as good as he was on the last debate.

00:06:32.900 Yes.

00:06:33.500 As far as knowing what the situation is and knowing what's going on.

00:06:38.380 Like, it is, a lot of it is about awareness in that moment and that is probably what Trump is best at in these debates.

00:06:46.080 Like, you think back to the, well, you'd be in jail, that moment with Hillary Clinton.

00:06:51.200 Like, that was him just picking apart the conversation in the moment.

00:06:54.520 He's very good at that.

00:06:55.460 He's obviously not as skilled at going after policy details.

00:06:58.920 That's not what his game is.

00:07:00.940 I bet it will be tonight.

00:07:03.280 I bet it will be tonight.

00:07:04.500 I mean, is that worrying?

00:07:05.920 What is your plan?

00:07:07.020 What's your plan?

00:07:08.740 Let's talk about details.

00:07:10.420 What's your plan?

00:07:11.520 Right.

00:07:11.820 Asking about them constantly.

00:07:13.240 Like, him trying to recite parts of healthcare laws is not a good approach for Donald Trump.

00:07:19.260 It's not going to be good for her either.

00:07:21.040 No.

00:07:21.700 And she is the reverse of Trump.

00:07:24.600 She's much worse in the moment.

00:07:26.420 She's much worse realizing what's going on.

00:07:28.840 The only thing she's going to try to do, I think, in this debate is to make Donald Trump, you know, lure him into either some sort of quote unquote sexist, quote unquote racist moment that she can exploit.

00:07:43.820 I mean, you go back to that Mike Pence debate where she said, excuse me, Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking.

00:07:51.700 And it's like, OK, we know you're speaking.

00:07:54.200 The problem is the words that are coming out of your mouth.

00:07:56.640 Right.

00:07:56.720 Like, it's not that you're speaking.

00:07:58.280 If you were saying true things, you wouldn't need to be interrupted.

00:08:01.240 But you're lying constantly.

00:08:02.660 But that is the type of moment that they're going to try to get out of this.

00:08:05.360 And to be clear, the media is going to try to magnify that into something that it's not.

00:08:09.600 Oh, ABC is so bad.

00:08:12.140 So bad.

00:08:13.040 Did you see the numbers on ABC?

00:08:15.920 Unbultible.

00:08:16.160 I'm trying to let me see if I can find it real quick.

00:08:18.500 So ABC is absolutely the most biased out of all of them.

00:08:28.000 They are so much more worse.

00:08:30.780 Is that right?

00:08:31.600 More worse.

00:08:32.500 They're worse than NBC.

00:08:34.960 And that's saying something.

00:08:37.280 Yeah.

00:08:37.580 According to a watchdog group.

00:08:44.200 The Media Research Center, I think it was.

00:08:45.840 Yeah, I think it was.

00:08:47.120 They watched CBS.

00:08:49.000 They tracked CBS, ABC, and NBC.

00:08:52.700 CBS was actually the most fair and balanced out of the three.

00:08:58.060 I think it had a score in the 70s.

00:09:00.740 And what they scored was, is it balanced?

00:09:05.880 Is there the other side ever being shown?

00:09:09.600 Is the anchor ever giving the benefit of the doubt?

00:09:13.820 Are they saying something positive?

00:09:16.300 Or is it just all negative?

00:09:18.940 On Kamala Harris, it was 100% positive coverage.

00:09:24.200 100%.

00:09:27.200 It wasn't 110% positive.

00:09:29.200 No, you're right.

00:09:30.300 It could have been worse.

00:09:31.020 It could have been worse.

00:09:31.580 Well, no, actually, it can't be.

00:09:33.520 That is unbelievable.

00:09:35.240 So here it is.

00:09:37.340 No, actually, NBC was best.

00:09:39.200 71% with NBC.

00:09:42.840 71% positive is the best.

00:09:45.500 Positive.

00:09:45.660 Yeah.

00:09:46.060 The best number.

00:09:47.580 The best number is 100%.

00:09:49.200 No, but I'm saying, for fairness, the best one was 71% positive.

00:09:55.940 71%.

00:09:56.460 Then 94% for CBS.

00:09:59.820 ABC, 100%.

00:10:03.000 And what's the time period on this?

00:10:04.640 They didn't say one negative thing?

00:10:06.620 Yeah.

00:10:07.860 Since?

00:10:08.740 Since?

00:10:09.960 She became the candidate.

00:10:11.560 Oh, my God.

00:10:12.280 Yeah.

00:10:12.580 That's over a month.

00:10:13.520 I know.

00:10:14.220 50 days now?

00:10:15.020 Yeah.

00:10:16.640 100%.

00:10:17.040 Now, Trump's negative coverage, 77% on CBS, 86% on ABC.

00:10:25.000 Oh, my God.

00:10:25.220 These are terrible.

00:10:26.620 Uh-huh.

00:10:27.360 Uh-huh.

00:10:29.800 But nobody even came close.

00:10:34.060 I mean, think about that.

00:10:35.980 100%.

00:10:36.380 I have to, you have to think about it.

00:10:39.180 Are they this incompetent?

00:10:40.360 How have they ever lost an election?

00:10:42.800 With this environment, how do you lose elections?

00:10:47.240 Well, I don't know if it's ever been this bad.

00:10:50.380 Yeah.

00:10:51.240 Yeah.

00:10:51.560 Yeah.

00:10:52.160 It's, now, it is, it's just lies.

00:10:55.260 I mean, they've always gotten stories wrong, and they're like, well, yeah, that's not the

00:10:59.820 way you frame that story.

00:11:01.660 You know what I mean?

00:11:02.340 Mm-hmm.

00:11:02.560 That's the way it used to be, and then some lies.

00:11:07.180 Now, it is nonstop.

00:11:09.000 If I hear that very fine people thing one more time.

00:11:13.180 Oh, my God.

00:11:13.200 How many times can they do this?

00:11:14.360 Oh, my gosh.

00:11:15.480 And they just keep getting away with it.

00:11:17.280 Did you see the one that they tried on J.D. Vance?

00:11:19.940 No.

00:11:20.960 Where they're like, J.D. Vance, quote, shootings are just a fact of life.

00:11:26.180 Oh, my gosh.

00:11:26.880 Are you kidding me?

00:11:28.280 That's not.

00:11:29.700 That's not what he did.

00:11:30.720 Not what he said.

00:11:31.620 In context, he made a big deal about how horrible this was.

00:11:36.180 Yep.

00:11:36.340 What a tragedy this shooting was.

00:11:39.400 And he said, unfortunately, and I don't like this, shootings have become part of life.

00:11:47.280 Yeah.

00:11:47.560 A fact of life.

00:11:48.260 And we've got to stop it.

00:11:50.220 But if you take all the context out and just say fact of life, it looks like you're just

00:11:53.460 this jerk who wants people to die and doesn't try to hide.

00:11:56.560 Hey, whatever.

00:11:56.960 Hey, those kids were killed.

00:11:58.900 It's a fact of life.

00:12:00.280 You know what I mean?

00:12:01.380 Let's build all schools near a mountain so they have high ground for all the assassins.

00:12:06.260 It's like, no, that's not what he said.

00:12:07.900 It's almost that.

00:12:08.660 Yeah.

00:12:09.040 And it's like, they all know what they're doing.

00:12:11.280 And this is the Donald Trump, we're going to have a bloodbath, dot, dot, dot in the economy.

00:12:18.700 Yeah.

00:12:18.920 But they just say bloodbath.

00:12:20.320 I mean, this is stuff that is, they all know what they're doing here.

00:12:24.840 This is not like mistakes.

00:12:26.240 It's not like, oh, this was taken out of context.

00:12:28.340 They are intentionally trying to sink his campaign because they hate him.

00:12:32.680 And I don't know that they love Kamala Harris, honestly.

00:12:35.620 I just, she's just the other thing.

00:12:37.640 Well, that quote really originated with the Associated Press.

00:12:41.780 And I don't know if you saw this, but the Babylon Bee has put a list together of all the things

00:12:49.220 that the AP has said in the past, and they still stand by it.

00:12:53.900 You know, for instance, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, according to, according to the AP, the only

00:13:01.940 thing we have, dot, dot, dot, is fear itself.

00:13:07.220 So.

00:13:08.120 Wow.

00:13:09.160 Neil Armstrong.

00:13:10.520 That's one small dot, dot, dot, man.

00:13:14.300 So.

00:13:15.040 It was a height?

00:13:16.040 That was a height speech?

00:13:17.500 Wayne Gretzky.

00:13:18.600 You miss 100% of the shots you dot, dot, dot, take.

00:13:23.900 So you shouldn't even try, is what he's saying.

00:13:26.360 Donald Trump.

00:13:27.120 I can't believe he came out and said it, but as reported by the AP, I am literally, dot,

00:13:32.340 dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, Hitler.

00:13:34.740 Oh my gosh.

00:13:35.680 Yes.

00:13:36.140 He said that?

00:13:36.920 Yeah.

00:13:37.140 So he's not even saying he, like, endorses the policies of Hitler.

00:13:40.280 He's saying he's actually the man.

00:13:41.440 And let me tell you, John F. Kennedy is practically Kamala Harris.

00:13:46.660 John F. Kennedy.

00:13:48.140 Ask not.

00:13:49.480 Period.

00:13:50.860 So you shouldn't even bother asking?

00:13:52.480 Don't even ask.

00:13:53.140 Don't even ask.

00:13:54.360 How about this one?

00:13:55.300 Martin Luther King.

00:13:56.540 I have a dream that one day, dot, dot, dot, little boys will be, dot, dot, dot, little

00:14:01.640 girls.

00:14:02.460 Oh.

00:14:03.340 So he was for this gender stuff.

00:14:05.020 Reverend.

00:14:05.340 He was for it.

00:14:06.900 He was for all of this gender stuff?

00:14:07.960 Yes.

00:14:08.700 I'm glad they uncovered that.

00:14:09.880 And then, of course, you know, you want to talk about weird.

00:14:13.580 Thomas Jefferson.

00:14:15.040 We hold these truths to be self-evident.

00:14:17.160 That men are, dot, dot, dot, endowed, dot, dot, dot, well.

00:14:20.980 Oh, wow.

00:14:22.140 Yeah.

00:14:22.560 I thought that was Abraham Lincoln they were talking about with those things.

00:14:26.060 Patrick Henry.

00:14:26.720 Give me death.

00:14:28.480 Wow.

00:14:29.760 Franklin Roosevelt again.

00:14:31.600 December, dot, dot, dot, will live in infamy.

00:14:35.000 Just the whole month?

00:14:35.980 Anti-Christmas.

00:14:37.060 Oh, my gosh.

00:14:37.340 Just anti-Christmas.

00:14:38.720 And, of course, Bill Clinton.

00:14:40.840 I did, dot, dot, dot, that woman.

00:14:44.000 Which is actually kind of weird.

00:14:45.100 That one's actually right.

00:14:45.760 That one's actually right.

00:14:46.140 You know, what they're doing is they're changing history in real time.

00:14:55.940 They really, truly believe that Hitler was right when he said, you say a lie long enough, loud enough, people will begin to believe it's the truth.

00:15:07.960 I mean, there's no other reason to keep saying very fine people other than.

00:15:14.140 And they know they're lying on that.

00:15:15.360 Yeah.

00:15:15.560 And they know they're lying.

00:15:16.540 And they might think that, you know, secretly it's what he really believes.

00:15:21.140 They might really, they may actually apply those things to him.

00:15:24.620 I think they hate him enough to maybe believe that.

00:15:26.900 Yeah.

00:15:27.180 You know, I was going to say, you know why they believe that?

00:15:29.600 Not based on any fact, but just what they think.

00:15:33.440 Yeah.

00:15:34.000 You know he believes that.

00:15:35.860 Yeah.

00:15:36.000 You know, what kind of people do they hang around all the time?

00:15:41.000 The worst people that have ever been created.

00:15:43.920 Oh, okay.

00:15:44.660 Well, that explains it.

00:15:45.440 Maybe it's because they're surrounded by all the most awful people that have ever existed.

00:15:49.640 Yeah.

00:15:50.000 And their experience tells them that everybody on earth is a scumbag.

00:15:57.260 Right.

00:15:57.900 Because that's all they're surrounded by.

00:15:59.820 And actually, we know that to be true.

00:16:03.400 We worked in those circles.

00:16:06.700 Yeah.

00:16:06.860 Not a lot of, not a lot of home runs there on the people front.

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00:16:11.480 No home runs on the people front.

00:16:15.620 That's an interesting way to describe multiple cities.

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00:17:53.620 So vibes and joy hasn't worked out real well for Kamala.

00:17:58.360 So I don't know.

00:18:00.220 I think it's worked out pretty well so far.

00:18:01.880 She's back in the race after they had no chance at all of winning.

00:18:05.760 Just say vibes and joy over and over again, and you're back to a tie?

00:18:09.320 That's a positive outcome for them.

00:18:11.280 Isn't it?

00:18:12.080 I mean, it's disappointing for sanity.

00:18:14.500 We're really that stupid.

00:18:16.120 We're really?

00:18:16.980 Sarah's looking at me just shaking her head like, absolutely.

00:18:19.620 Yes, we are.

00:18:22.280 Well, anyway, so her plan is tonight, just say as many times as possible, Trump is a felon.

00:18:28.800 And I've put felons away, so I know felons.

00:18:32.680 I know their type.

00:18:38.000 She says it at every speech, and they just, like, it's at that point now where people start

00:18:43.260 clapping before she even gets through it, because she's just, it's like her catchphrase.

00:18:46.800 And I'm like, what do you mean, you know, what are you talking about?

00:18:51.480 What on earth are you even referring to?

00:18:55.760 We all know that this case in New York was BS.

00:18:59.960 Wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:19:01.180 Sarah?

00:19:02.580 Do we all know, do we all know that this case in New York was BS?

00:19:07.300 No.

00:19:11.440 No.

00:19:12.300 You're correct.

00:19:13.360 When I say all, and I'm referring to all American voters, they definitely don't know.

00:19:17.900 Yes.

00:19:18.320 Because, of course, the media has not informed them of this fact.

00:19:20.680 Correct.

00:19:21.140 And they haven't bothered to look on their own.

00:19:22.800 Right, and they're a little, and quite honestly, they're a little busy with maybe their third

00:19:26.400 job trying to get something that they can scrape together to go buy groceries or gas,

00:19:32.060 you know, fight off the illegal immigrants, you know, all of that stuff.

00:19:37.240 Protect their cats.

00:19:37.820 Protect their cats.

00:19:38.860 All the stuff that is just, you know, in everyday American life now.

00:19:42.240 Right.

00:19:42.760 That's a big part of it.

00:19:43.840 So, yes, you're right.

00:19:44.740 They don't all know that, but that might be her.

00:19:47.120 I don't think he's going to have trouble with that attack, if that's what she's going.

00:19:50.040 I think, like, what she needs to do is try to goad him into saying something that is going to make him look like a heartless, sexist, racist.

00:20:02.860 And, you know, again, if he decides to say, well, actually, you're not as black as you say you are, I mean, she'll win.

00:20:10.160 I mean, if he goes down those roads, she's going to win.

00:20:12.120 She is not as incompetent as Biden, and that is a big, big line.

00:20:16.580 This is going to be more difficult in theory.

00:20:18.780 She will have some prepared stuff that she has not released.

00:20:22.460 She's very disciplined in that way.

00:20:24.120 Right.

00:20:24.320 And she's also just her main strategy is piss him off.

00:20:31.880 Piss him off.

00:20:32.680 And she will have some lines specifically diagnosed to do that.

00:20:39.100 I am a bit, mildly, somewhat concerned on Trump's energy level.

00:20:47.760 You know, he is, he probably will be fine on this.

00:20:52.280 And he's always been fine in these moments.

00:20:54.640 What are you saying?

00:20:55.780 Are you saying?

00:20:56.180 What I'm saying, and I'm serious about this, I am legitimately concerned about it because it's the reverse of last time.

00:21:01.960 Last time, everyone got to see two people on the stage.

00:21:04.340 One of them looked completely like he was going to fall asleep, and the other one looked fine.

00:21:08.280 But when you put someone who's 25 years younger, whatever she is, 23 years younger than he is, on stage, she looks younger than him.

00:21:17.260 She's going to make this.

00:21:18.060 He's the older one now.

00:21:18.800 She's going to make.

00:21:20.340 He's the older one now.

00:21:21.220 And America is going to look at that.

00:21:22.260 And if, like, I watched his economic speech the other day.

00:21:24.700 And look, he phones it in on teleprompter.

00:21:27.180 Trump does not care about the teleprompter parts of these things.

00:21:29.560 He hates it.

00:21:30.200 He starts reading these things.

00:21:31.260 He gets the two or three paragraphs.

00:21:32.300 Then he goes off on a rant.

00:21:33.180 And that's when he actually looks like he's engaged.

00:21:34.960 Right.

00:21:35.140 But, like, he did not look engaged at all in that speech.

00:21:38.600 You know, you've watched him on some of those.

00:21:40.140 He's just, like, he's phoning it in.

00:21:42.320 Right.

00:21:42.500 And look, I get it.

00:21:43.740 The man has a very busy schedule.

00:21:45.680 He is in his late 70s.

00:21:47.540 And also, he was just shot.

00:21:50.060 Yeah.

00:21:50.280 Like, I don't know what you'd even go through.

00:21:52.200 But I am concerned.

00:21:53.180 Like, I hope he comes out with that full Trumpian energy.

00:21:55.740 I read this the exact opposite.

00:21:57.900 I think his shooting has made him more thoughtful.

00:22:05.500 That might be it.

00:22:06.920 That's great.

00:22:07.400 I think he is.

00:22:10.520 He knows the consequences.

00:22:13.080 And he knows he's been saved for some reason.

00:22:17.480 You know, and I don't think it's to open another hotel.

00:22:20.720 Might be.

00:22:21.740 But I don't think so.

00:22:22.620 Well, it's the world's greatest hotel, maybe.

00:22:23.920 It is.

00:22:24.740 Yeah.

00:22:24.920 I read his, quote, low energy that the media seems to be all over as he's changed.

00:22:34.140 I've seen him several times in person since the shooting.

00:22:38.640 I've seen him maybe three times.

00:22:40.060 And he seems normal.

00:22:40.620 Yeah.

00:22:41.080 Okay.

00:22:41.540 I mean, he really has a command of everything.

00:22:46.800 That's good.

00:22:47.220 Uh, and I really, truly believe in the interactions that I've had, the seeing of him, the listening

00:22:54.800 to him in person.

00:22:57.300 It's, it's a change of attitude.

00:22:59.380 So you think my, you can push aside my pessimism.

00:23:03.640 Yeah.

00:23:03.820 You think I don't have to worry about this?

00:23:05.600 No, I don't think so.

00:23:06.680 Good.

00:23:07.020 I don't think so.

00:23:07.640 I have enough to worry about.

00:23:08.960 I don't want to worry about more things.

00:23:09.740 I think he's actually going to be better with her because of that.

00:23:14.520 Because he's a little more gentle.

00:23:18.340 Glenn Beck.

00:23:23.560 All right.

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00:24:57.200 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:59.180 Pat Gray is joining us now.

00:25:00.940 I like your new backdrop, I guess it is.

00:25:04.300 The screen with the, you're in the cowboy hat and the western outfit sitting on a horse.

00:25:10.340 Is Doris Kearns Goodwin coming up?

00:25:14.820 It's happening.

00:25:15.960 WNBC.

00:25:17.220 He's turning into Imus.

00:25:19.280 It's happened.

00:25:20.700 In front of our eyes.

00:25:21.480 Past tense.

00:25:22.280 It's happened.

00:25:22.920 Except Imus kept losing weight.

00:25:25.880 He was, I mean, Imus, no, Glenn is actually in the midst of a streak here, which is pretty

00:25:34.400 freaking impressive.

00:25:35.140 How much weight have you lost?

00:25:35.980 52.

00:25:36.740 52 pounds.

00:25:37.560 What?

00:25:37.960 You've lost 52 pounds?

00:25:39.640 It's noticeable.

00:25:41.340 Are you doing like, was that a pick or something?

00:25:44.540 He's got, he's, he's, well, cocaine.

00:25:46.780 Cocaine.

00:25:47.420 Ah.

00:25:48.180 Yeah.

00:25:48.480 The cocaine is still flowing.

00:25:49.800 Yeah.

00:25:50.180 I've heard that works.

00:25:51.480 The cocaine diet.

00:25:52.240 Yeah, it does.

00:25:52.640 I heard it too for a long time and I'm like, I give it a whirl.

00:25:56.000 What was the quote from, from Dennis Quaid in your interview?

00:25:59.700 It was, you know, cocaine, it's good at first.

00:26:04.140 Then it's good with problems.

00:26:06.580 Then it's just problems.

00:26:08.540 Yeah.

00:26:08.860 It's a good quote.

00:26:09.860 It's a good quote.

00:26:10.480 It's really good quote.

00:26:11.440 But yeah, the stuff looks great here, Glenn.

00:26:13.500 Yeah, it does.

00:26:13.900 I mean, you look like you actually were on that horse.

00:26:16.120 I mean, it's not like, it's not AI.

00:26:18.320 Those are my cattle.

00:26:19.720 I was driving my cattle on my horse.

00:26:21.720 So it has actually your face on that body?

00:26:25.880 Is it?

00:26:26.720 To me.

00:26:27.000 By the way, Stuart, are you changing your name to Charles anytime soon?

00:26:30.520 Charles McCord?

00:26:31.300 Yeah.

00:26:31.540 Yes.

00:26:33.380 These old Imus jokes are really so relatable.

00:26:37.360 They're good.

00:26:37.780 They're so relatable.

00:26:38.260 I mean, somebody's got to pick up that mantle.

00:26:40.100 It's been gone since 2019.

00:26:41.620 Well, he wasn't a current reference 20 years before he died.

00:26:44.640 I will tell you that I am going to start opening up the ranch for sick kids.

00:26:54.620 Yeah.

00:26:56.100 What a nice idea.

00:26:57.560 Right.

00:26:57.840 Glenn, that's really nice.

00:26:58.700 Hey, thank you.

00:26:59.700 See, I say this to my wife, and she's like, that's not nice.

00:27:03.180 And I'm like, what?

00:27:04.380 Of course it is.

00:27:05.120 I bring up sick kids.

00:27:06.740 We put them to work.

00:27:09.260 Pay them less than minimum wage.

00:27:11.280 We get stuff done.

00:27:12.260 I got a lot of fence to build.

00:27:13.960 Yeah.

00:27:14.220 It's a big property.

00:27:15.480 It's a big property.

00:27:16.800 You need a lot of sick kids to build those fences.

00:27:18.380 Anyway.

00:27:18.860 Anyway.

00:27:19.540 So tonight.

00:27:20.840 So tonight.

00:27:21.640 Tonight.

00:27:22.560 The big debate.

00:27:23.520 What do you think?

00:27:24.260 What do you think?

00:27:24.820 What do you think?

00:27:25.420 I just, I hope he sticks to policy.

00:27:28.320 I hope Donald Trump sticks to policy and tries to pin her down on what was the pivot point

00:27:35.340 for you?

00:27:35.900 You know, the question that you've asked for years.

00:27:37.720 What was your pivot point?

00:27:38.980 Why have you changed on absolutely everything?

00:27:41.040 You stand the opposite policy position on virtually everything you've ever outlined.

00:27:47.040 Where was your pivot point?

00:27:48.280 Reportedly.

00:27:48.640 We don't know that for a fact.

00:27:50.060 She doesn't say it.

00:27:51.060 Right.

00:27:51.220 The only one she actually said was fracking, right?

00:27:53.200 She said she no longer supports the fracking ban.

00:27:56.140 In that Dana Bash interview.

00:27:57.580 But everything else, she hasn't.

00:27:58.680 She hasn't.

00:27:59.300 Well, she did.

00:28:00.100 Yes.

00:28:00.460 There is one other thing, and that's the ban on plastic straws.

00:28:05.560 She apparently has announced she's no longer in favor of the plastic straws.

00:28:10.880 And I have to tell you that.

00:28:11.780 She hasn't announced that.

00:28:13.120 That was another statement leaked.

00:28:14.400 Oh, it's just a statement.

00:28:15.220 She hasn't actually said it.

00:28:16.500 She hadn't come out and said the straw thing.

00:28:18.460 Was it on the website, though?

00:28:20.340 Because some of the stuff has come out on the website.

00:28:22.080 Yes, she has.

00:28:22.740 She did actually launch a policy page for the first time, which is interesting.

00:28:27.560 By the way, I wouldn't vote for anybody who wants paper straws.

00:28:33.700 I don't care if it was Ronald Reagan Part 2.

00:28:38.080 I would not vote for it.

00:28:39.400 If he was like, I want zero taxes, but I want paper straws.

00:28:43.480 No.

00:28:44.020 You're not getting my vote.

00:28:44.580 I have to tell you.

00:28:45.200 What do they say?

00:28:45.820 Because dolphins choke on it or something?

00:28:48.160 No.

00:28:48.560 There's no reason for it.

00:28:49.760 No, but that's what they're saying.

00:28:50.740 Because they wind up in the ocean.

00:28:51.860 Yeah, they wind up.

00:28:52.420 500 million a day.

00:28:53.920 I don't care.

00:28:55.060 Remember the nine-year-old kid stat?

00:28:56.480 It was legitimately a statistic that came from a child.

00:29:01.460 A child in a book report.

00:29:03.260 Or a project for school.

00:29:05.700 Sorry, Glenn.

00:29:06.060 Go ahead.

00:29:06.140 I just don't.

00:29:09.480 If you have ever used a paper straw, we celebrate it.

00:29:12.800 I used to use them as a kid.

00:29:14.280 Remember?

00:29:14.800 Yes.

00:29:15.180 We had paper straws.

00:29:16.240 We didn't have plastic straws.

00:29:17.780 I thought that was a newfangled thing.

00:29:19.600 I didn't know.

00:29:20.040 No.

00:29:20.680 They've always been around.

00:29:21.840 Yeah.

00:29:22.220 Just for different reasons.

00:29:23.680 Yeah.

00:29:24.260 Because we had to change it because we're cutting down too many trees with too much plastic.

00:29:29.140 No, they sucked.

00:29:30.260 That's why.

00:29:31.120 Or didn't suck.

00:29:31.860 Didn't suck.

00:29:32.260 They were very bad.

00:29:34.560 And I got to tell you, I don't care what your reason is.

00:29:37.200 I don't care if people in Florida are born with plastic straws shooting out of their eyes.

00:29:44.700 I'm good with it.

00:29:45.500 I want my plastic straw.

00:29:46.320 Exactly.

00:29:46.920 If each plastic straw we used killed a family member of mine, I still want them.

00:29:52.920 That's where I am on it.

00:29:54.080 Yeah.

00:29:54.420 That is.

00:29:55.060 It's probably my most extreme issue.

00:29:57.040 I hate them.

00:29:58.200 Has there ever been an American citizen that has gotten through one single drink with one

00:30:03.480 of those straws?

00:30:04.260 No.

00:30:04.500 Has it ever occurred?

00:30:05.420 No.

00:30:05.880 It's always two or three straws because they close up.

00:30:08.840 They're the worst.

00:30:10.540 Anyone who would entertain this, it's like, it's disqualifying for you as a leader.

00:30:15.980 So here's what Donald Trump's challenge is tonight, and this apparently is his strategy,

00:30:22.760 is to hold her accountable for everything that is going on.

00:30:26.780 Yes, please.

00:30:26.860 And it's not hard.

00:30:28.400 Listen to this.

00:30:29.040 This is 2021.

00:30:30.200 That is why, also, starting with our administration, we gave TPS, temporary protected status,

00:30:39.440 to Haitian migrants, 55,000.

00:30:41.760 Oh, my gosh.

00:30:42.460 And then more recently, we extended temporary protected status to over 100,000 Haitian migrants

00:30:49.220 for that very reason, that they need support, they need protection.

00:30:52.500 Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow,

00:30:58.660 meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, Meow, meow, meow.

00:31:03.020 I think that's all he should say after that.

00:31:05.160 I don't think that's a good approach.

00:31:07.000 Really?

00:31:07.980 How about, hey, so you're very proud of the Haitian immigrant thing.

00:31:12.860 How's that working out, Ohio?

00:31:15.540 I wonder, that's the type of thing I could see her trying to get him going on.

00:31:21.080 So he says some mistake.

00:31:23.100 Yeah, but there's no defense for you've got a town of 58,000 people where you dumped 20,000 immigrants into.

00:31:31.360 I don't care where they're from.

00:31:33.160 You can't do that.

00:31:33.900 You can't do that.

00:31:35.280 Who the hell do these people think they are?

00:31:38.860 How is it that our government just thinks it's okay to take our towns and just change the makeup of it?

00:31:48.060 Overnight.

00:31:48.720 Overnight.

00:31:49.920 Overnight.

00:31:50.400 It's insanity.

00:31:51.520 By the way, so that was Kamala in 21.

00:31:56.820 Cut three is J.D. Vance months ago.

00:32:00.220 Chairman Brown, I'd like to ask unanimous consent to submit a letter for the record from the city of Springfield and our state, the southwestern part of our state,

00:32:07.920 which I think highlights a very real example of this particular concern straight from the horse's mouth itself.

00:32:13.140 Now, this letter, I want to quote from it.

00:32:14.720 Springfield has seen a surge in population through immigration that has significantly impacted our ability as a community to produce enough housing opportunities for all.

00:32:23.080 Springfield's Haitian population has increased 15,000 to 20,000 over the last four years in a community of under 60,000 previous residents, putting a significant strain on our resources and ability to provide ample housing for all of our residents.

00:32:35.940 That's an end quote there.

00:32:37.360 Thank you.

00:32:39.360 Objection.

00:32:39.920 In my conversations with folks in Springfield, it's not just housing.

00:32:44.280 They're trying to build 5,000 new housing units, which is a very Herculean task in a town of about 55,000 people.

00:32:50.980 But it's also hospital services.

00:32:52.840 It's school services.

00:32:54.180 It's there's a whole host of ways in which this immigration problem, I think, is having very real human consequences.

00:33:00.220 Listen to his hatred.

00:33:02.380 I mean, that was from July.

00:33:03.860 That was from July.

00:33:05.300 They've been dumping people into our communities in the middle of the night.

00:33:09.700 They've been flying them in in the middle of the night, dumping them into our communities, changing the culture.

00:33:17.160 I have to tell you, this isn't racism.

00:33:21.360 I would be pissed off if in my town, what do you think we have in my town?

00:33:26.740 About 20,000 just in my town.

00:33:29.380 About 20,000 or 30,000.

00:33:32.240 You think less than that?

00:33:33.280 If they took and they added 30% Californians, I'd be pissed off.

00:33:40.220 Yeah, it changes the political makeup of your area.

00:33:42.760 It just changes the culture entirely.

00:33:45.740 Yeah.

00:33:46.100 And, you know, for people who grew up in Springfield, I liked my town.

00:33:52.660 Yeah.

00:33:53.040 Yeah.

00:33:53.460 And two, I think even if you added that percentage of people of any sort to a town of that size, it would be dramatic, right?

00:34:00.380 It is.

00:34:00.860 And those numbers are, I mean, reading the media coverage on it, they act like all of this is a lie.

00:34:07.140 Like, and there was that video that was put out there.

00:34:09.660 All of this is a lie.

00:34:10.640 That's what they say.

00:34:11.580 I mean, they just keep saying it's just racism.

00:34:12.860 Those people didn't come?

00:34:15.440 They came, but like, they're just, you know, they're lying about these cultural changes.

00:34:19.520 I don't care if they're from New York and they're all white people.

00:34:25.060 I don't care.

00:34:26.940 You'll change the makeup of my town.

00:34:30.280 You'll change the culture.

00:34:31.940 Anybody who is culturally different and right now the blue, just the blue and red, you take, would you be fine, New York, if all of a sudden the government just, I mean, we wouldn't do it.

00:34:46.920 It would be a civil war, but they started just importing into your city in, you know, New York City, 30% Texan.

00:34:57.040 Would you be fine with that?

00:34:59.080 Of course you wouldn't.

00:35:00.340 Of course you wouldn't.

00:35:02.340 Does that make you anti-Texan?

00:35:04.780 Yeah, probably in your case it does.

00:35:06.680 Does it make me, you know, anti-Californian?

00:35:10.440 Yeah.

00:35:10.960 In my case it does.

00:35:13.160 It's the cultural thing.

00:35:14.960 We don't agree on what the culture should be like.

00:35:20.560 And my problem is, is these people just didn't find their way.

00:35:24.260 It's not like, you know, where do we want to live?

00:35:26.500 I don't know.

00:35:27.000 Let's look around.

00:35:27.840 What fits us?

00:35:29.200 The federal government just dumped these people off into a city.

00:35:34.460 Arbitrarily.

00:35:35.360 Yeah.

00:35:35.940 Why that community?

00:35:37.680 Why?

00:35:38.140 I don't know.

00:35:38.760 They're just changing the makeup on purpose.

00:35:40.300 Remember Michelle Bachman, this is almost 20 years ago, saying they're just, the State

00:35:45.100 Department is just importing all these Somalis into Minnesota.

00:35:49.400 You do remember that.

00:35:50.160 And she was called.

00:35:51.360 How's that worked out?

00:35:51.980 Yeah.

00:35:52.240 She's called a racist.

00:35:53.500 Yeah.

00:35:53.680 How is it working out?

00:35:55.020 How is it working out?

00:35:57.640 Not well.

00:35:58.680 No.

00:35:58.840 Especially for the cats.

00:36:01.280 Is that even true?

00:36:02.960 Yeah.

00:36:03.240 It's absolutely true.

00:36:05.060 There was a woman.

00:36:05.940 You sure?

00:36:06.520 Yeah.

00:36:07.020 Okay.

00:36:07.420 Got some proof here with this video of neighbors calling out this woman for, well, eating a

00:36:14.340 cat.

00:36:15.200 What did you do?

00:36:17.840 Why'd you kill the cat?

00:36:20.440 Smile for me.

00:36:24.060 Smile.

00:36:24.620 What did you do?

00:36:25.200 Go like this.

00:36:26.460 Did you eat that cat?

00:36:27.560 She's got a cat in her teeth.

00:36:29.580 Did you eat it?

00:36:31.500 No.

00:36:31.900 Why'd you kill it?

00:36:33.780 Did you guys see all this?

00:36:35.200 No.

00:36:35.600 We pulled up and she was just laying there with me.

00:36:38.440 Did you see her eating it?

00:36:39.480 Eating it.

00:36:40.200 She was eating it?

00:36:40.980 Yeah.

00:36:41.660 She was.

00:36:42.600 Can you call the Humane Society to see if they'll come pick those cats up?

00:36:45.240 It's deceased.

00:36:46.600 Well, being eaten?

00:36:47.620 Yeah.

00:36:47.800 Yeah.

00:36:48.020 That tends to.

00:36:48.700 Tends to.

00:36:49.080 Yeah.

00:36:49.300 Usually.

00:36:49.840 Deceased people.

00:36:50.620 In most circumstances.

00:36:51.300 Now, was she crazy?

00:36:54.020 Well, I would guess it was a cultural difference.

00:36:58.560 It might be a little both.

00:37:00.580 Okay.

00:37:01.420 All right.

00:37:02.440 All right.

00:37:02.960 Now, it does seem that, at least the reporting on this, is that it was a real incident.

00:37:07.760 It was a real person eating a real cat.

00:37:09.800 That's actually part of it.

00:37:11.080 She was not, however, a Haitian immigrant.

00:37:13.220 And it was in Canton, not Springfield, Ohio.

00:37:15.620 Okay.

00:37:16.040 So, I don't know that that necessarily makes this all that much better.

00:37:18.980 Because I don't want to, you know, I think the cat memes they're going around, I think

00:37:25.080 that's just a response to, you're importing people who, for instance, Somalis will come

00:37:32.900 in and they stand on the toilet seat and take a crap squatting.

00:37:37.560 Because that's the way they do it in their country.

00:37:40.020 And they did it so much, they had to put signs inside bathroom stalls, do not stand on toilet

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00:37:49.500 Okay.

00:37:49.900 I mean, it's just a cultural thing.

00:37:53.560 Yeah.

00:37:54.760 But look, I mean, any, this is happening all over the place.

00:37:59.040 They're trying to make it into this racist thing.

00:38:00.660 We played, what, 20 clips yesterday of African Americans standing up and yelling at their

00:38:06.440 town councils saying, what is going on?

00:38:08.540 Yeah.

00:38:08.920 Who are you to do this?

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00:42:01.240 So Glenn's fully confident.

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00:42:04.900 No, I'm not fully confident.

00:42:05.480 No, no.

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00:42:08.580 Well, I think, you know what?

00:42:09.400 I'm going to go in with that attitude then.

00:42:11.640 Yeah, I am.

00:42:12.120 I hope so.

00:42:12.520 I hope you're right.

00:42:13.360 I do, too.

00:42:13.540 I'm just nervous.

00:42:15.540 You know, it feels like one of those things where, you know, look, it's Kamala Harris.

00:42:19.320 She's a joke.

00:42:20.860 And anyone should be able to beat her.

00:42:22.560 And Donald Trump can absolutely beat her.

00:42:24.240 And there is nothing more infuriating than someone who lies and lies to your face about you.

00:42:35.200 Oh, yeah.

00:42:36.020 That's incredible.

00:42:36.480 I mean, when she starts...

00:42:37.900 And you're just talking about the moderators.

00:42:39.480 Yeah, right.

00:42:40.140 But when Kamala Harris, she knows what the truth is.

00:42:44.780 She's a prosecutor.

00:42:46.120 She knows about, you know, a felon.

00:42:50.240 She knows that's all trumped up.

00:42:53.120 And for him to sit there after what he's gone through and what his family has gone through,

00:42:58.880 and for her to perpetuate that lie to his face, I don't know if I could handle it.

00:43:08.160 He's a stronger man than me because I don't think I could handle it.

00:43:11.700 And she is infuriating.

00:43:15.640 Infuriating.

00:43:16.180 Because she is lying all the time.

00:43:18.840 All the time.

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00:43:20.960 All the time.

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00:43:31.680 It's going to be tough.

00:43:32.880 It's going to be tough.

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00:43:37.380 And hopefully too disciplined, unfortunately.

00:43:39.640 He has.

00:43:40.340 He won by so much to end his campaign.

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00:45:26.200 Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:45:40.280 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:45:45.280 Hello, America.

00:45:46.260 Tonight is the big debate.

00:45:48.460 And Kamala Harris, as Carol Roth has pointed out, is pro-worker like McDonald's is pro-cow.

00:45:56.060 She'll fill us in in 60 seconds.

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00:47:09.940 Carol Roth joins us now.

00:47:14.840 She's just written an article for Blaze, theblaze.com.

00:47:19.700 Kamala Harris is pro-worker, like McDonald's is pro-cow.

00:47:24.580 Hello, Carol.

00:47:25.400 How are you?

00:47:27.060 Hi, Glenn.

00:47:27.920 I'm doing fantastic.

00:47:29.160 How are you?

00:47:29.860 I'm very good.

00:47:31.580 So what are you thinking about the debate today?

00:47:34.420 Uh, and what, uh, Donald Trump needs to do because he's going to be in there fighting really by himself.

00:47:43.420 The two anchors are so anti-Trump.

00:47:47.320 I don't think they're going to, you know, necessarily be helpers on holding her feet to the fire.

00:47:53.360 Oh, you mean the, uh, the media outlet that has 100% pro-Kamala Harris stories is not going to turn around and be a fair debate moderator?

00:48:03.580 I'm shocked.

00:48:04.360 Yeah.

00:48:04.680 It's weird, huh?

00:48:05.600 I, I see Kamala Harris coming out as new and improved Kamala Harris.

00:48:11.520 Now with more joy, because it's the only thing that she can hang her hat on, right?

00:48:17.700 She is going to sit and gaslight the American public and pretend that she was not part of the Biden-Harris administration,

00:48:25.860 that she was not the tie-breaking vote on all of this critical legislation, which has raised inflation, created massive deficits,

00:48:35.480 and really decimated the middle and working class.

00:48:39.200 She's going to try to, to present herself as something completely different.

00:48:44.320 I think what Donald Trump needs to do, and this is going to be very difficult for him because when,

00:48:50.200 when somebody hangs a softball out there, he likes to, he likes to hit the pitch, but he needs to stay away from the ad hominem attacks.

00:48:58.320 He needs to not take the bait because she is going to be baiting him back and forth.

00:49:02.980 And he needs to stay focused on the economy, on the border, on the U.S.'s standing in the world and simply hold her feet to the fire for the policies that she has been responsible for

00:49:16.240 and contrast that to the pre-COVID three-plus years that we had Donald Trump as president and what everybody's life was like.

00:49:24.900 We know that we have empirical evidence.

00:49:26.960 Okay, but Carol, she does have some things she can boast about.

00:49:31.780 The small business success.

00:49:34.420 She claims a record of 19 million small business applications were received under their leadership.

00:49:43.780 And that's a record, I hear.

00:49:45.920 That's what they say.

00:49:46.840 Okay, so this is, I think most people know who listen to me on your program that I'm one of the world's leading experts on small business.

00:49:57.380 I've been entrenched for decades.

00:49:59.600 I heard this thing, this small business applications, and I went around to every group that I know and I said,

00:50:08.260 what is a small business application?

00:50:10.500 Because when I started my business, I didn't have to apply at the federal level.

00:50:15.620 Certainly, I had an LLC, so I registered that with the state.

00:50:20.020 Some people have sold proprietorships.

00:50:21.880 What does this mean?

00:50:23.220 Because we have 33-plus million small businesses, but that only grows on net less than a million a year.

00:50:32.460 So how is it possible that we have 19 million new application starts?

00:50:39.280 And so far, no one's really been able to give me an answer.

00:50:41.920 I have one committee, you know, related to the House Small Business Committee who thinks that maybe there's some information that came from the state census data.

00:50:51.640 But I asked them, they're actually having a committee hearing, and I asked them if they could ask the SBA administrator and put her on the hot seat,

00:50:59.760 because they're running around touting these made-up statistics that sound like they're some champion of small business.

00:51:05.240 At the same time, Glenn, NFIB came out with their Small Business Optimism Index today.

00:51:12.960 The 32nd consecutive month that small business optimism has been below the historical average, and that's a 50-year average.

00:51:23.100 Well, that's because they fear Donald Trump is coming back.

00:51:30.680 For 32nd months, yes.

00:51:33.360 I mean, it's crazy, because I see this number, you know, of 19 million small businesses, and I'm like,

00:51:42.160 I thought that was just because of all the businesses that they had put out of business, they're, like, starting up new businesses.

00:51:50.200 So, I just thought they were taking credit, like they do with all the job creation.

00:51:54.960 We've created more jobs.

00:51:56.660 No, you didn't.

00:51:57.800 People went back to work.

00:51:59.460 You had told them you cannot work.

00:52:02.860 So, of course, there were people going back to work.

00:52:05.940 But you're saying this isn't that at all.

00:52:09.120 This is possibly even made up.

00:52:12.600 Yeah, I mean, it's something, but nobody knows really what it means.

00:52:16.860 It certainly is not a proxy for new small businesses created, which is what they're intimating.

00:52:23.240 And we know the number of small businesses, you know, a year ago was 32-point-something million, and then it climbed to 33-point-something million.

00:52:31.620 You know, yes, that's on net.

00:52:33.500 Unless they're killing 18 million small businesses a year, which, you know, we know that they're certainly trying, but I don't think that they've succeeded in doing that yet, that this is an absolute, you know, it's just, you know, spouting off nonsense.

00:52:49.500 And they're doing this, you know, again and again to gaslight people into things are so great.

00:52:55.520 We're so in your corner.

00:52:57.580 But at the same time, she's coming out and she's tweeting about anti-small business policies, like the PRO Act that she said that she's going to put in place, which for people who don't know, that is the anti-gig worker and anti-independent contractor language from California's AB5 taken nationally.

00:53:15.460 And they want to kill the gig economy and all the small businesses that depend on independent contractors in favor of unions and big business.

00:53:24.400 So it's very difficult to say, I am the small business, I am the worker candidate, and still be in favor of these things, which is why I equate it to being like McDonald's being pro-couse.

00:53:36.180 You know, it is, as a small business owner myself, I look at tomorrow and think if they get in, the regulations, just the regulations alone that are still sitting out there that they want to impose, will just crush small businesses.

00:53:57.900 These guys, you know, they used to say that, well, the Republicans are in with big business.

00:54:05.260 Well, they were also in with small business, too.

00:54:07.620 You know, they had a business attitude.

00:54:10.160 These guys are only big business.

00:54:13.640 They are only in with the giant global corporations.

00:54:18.560 That's all they care about.

00:54:19.840 And it is honestly like they are trying to impoverish the small business and impoverish the middle class without moving any of the middle class up.

00:54:32.520 They're moving them all down.

00:54:35.400 Yeah, I'm glad that you brought up regulations because, as I mentioned, there's this House committee meeting right now.

00:54:41.960 And they came out with a report earlier this year that the Biden-Harris agenda imposed $1.7 trillion in regulations on small businesses.

00:54:52.600 And that was before we've had some of these pending regulations go into place.

00:54:58.160 So I am certain that that's higher.

00:55:00.900 And that is millions upon millions of hours that are wasted.

00:55:04.860 That is real dollars that are wasted.

00:55:07.040 And that's a barrier to success.

00:55:09.400 You know, we keep hearing this ridiculous phrase, the opportunity economy.

00:55:14.160 Well, if you want to create opportunity, you reduce barriers or you reduce regulations, you reduce taxes, you reduce the government being up in your business.

00:55:24.280 And you have the government mind their own business so that you can go off and work in your business.

00:55:30.120 You know, that is what it is all about.

00:55:31.680 I know that our audience is heavy on entrepreneurs and people who have done business for a long time.

00:55:40.860 But there's also a younger generation that listens.

00:55:44.600 And explain why regulations hurt opportunity.

00:55:51.620 They hurt opportunity because, number one, they're costly.

00:55:56.980 Two, you're spending time complying with the regulation instead of spending the time working and growing your business.

00:56:04.400 And the challenge is that if you are a big company, if you're the Amazons of the world, if you're the Walmarts of the world, you have not only a whole balance sheet to deal with this, but you have a whole host of people in your company, whether it's HR or whether it's some other administrative function that can deal with these regulations.

00:56:26.640 When it comes to small business, the majority, greater majority of small businesses, it's just the entrepreneur.

00:56:33.940 So it's one person already wearing all of those hats trying to deal with this.

00:56:38.200 Even if you have some employees, you don't have the wherewithal, the ability or struggling enough to deal with inflation, finding the right workers, remaining competitive, dealing with cybersecurity and the like.

00:56:51.700 You don't have time and you don't have bandwidth and you don't have capital to deal with these regulations.

00:56:59.060 And some of them are so onerous that people want to close their business.

00:57:03.920 Something that we've been talking about, Glenn, for months now that the Corporate Transparency Act, which is this registration with the Financial Crimes Division of the Treasury.

00:57:13.880 I've had hundreds upon hundreds of small business owners and people looking to start small businesses saying that they don't want to, they want to close their business, they don't want to start because they don't want to deal with the asymmetrical risk of having their information exposed or the government coming after them for doing something wrong.

00:57:33.040 So because the government is imposing this regulation, which, by the way, is still in flux, it's preventing these entrepreneurs from taking those risks and creating opportunity, which creates jobs, which creates more dollars in their community, which grows the economy, which is what we need to move ourselves forward.

00:57:54.060 This is so obvious, but all they want to do is take away wealth, create barriers, redistribute it, and make it very, very challenging for a small business owner to succeed.

00:58:06.380 You, I think it was you, Carol, said, oh, maybe six months ago we were talking and you said, Glenn, most of the stuff that they've done doesn't really kick in until 2025.

00:58:18.620 So we haven't felt the full impact of Bidenomics yet.

00:58:25.080 Was that you that said that to me?

00:58:27.420 Quite probably.

00:58:28.700 Quite probably.

00:58:29.260 So what is it that is coming still that we haven't felt?

00:58:33.440 Describe next year just as it stands without any new policies, if we just continued where we are.

00:58:43.580 Well, as I said, the House Small Business Committee is doing a markup on seven different pieces of legislation trying to overturn all of these stringent rules for small business.

00:58:58.600 This Corporate Transparency Act, we have until the end of the year for that to go into effect.

00:59:04.860 If there's no delay, which, by the way, there's two delay bills and two repeal bills and seven lawsuits.

00:59:11.580 If we don't get that done by the end of the year, then people are going to be faced with compliance.

00:59:16.560 And then on top of that, you know, we have the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

00:59:22.240 You know, large pieces of that is expiring and changing the way that small businesses have to look at their taxes and figure out, you know, what makes sense for them from an administrative standpoint.

00:59:34.220 So, you know, and that's, again, just scratching the surface.

00:59:38.840 So, you know, one after another, there are things in the pipeline.

00:59:43.920 And then if Kamala Harris were to become president again, day one, they are going to try to rule by executive order.

00:59:51.560 I mean, one of the other things that this Department of Labor rule, their anti-independent contract rule that went into effect in March.

00:59:59.700 They haven't been truly enforcing it.

01:00:02.620 I haven't seen much of the way of enforcement.

01:00:04.860 But if they start to crack down on that, you know, that's something that could kill, you know, all of small business across across the board.

01:00:13.260 So there are just so many different things.

01:00:16.260 And it's challenging enough to own your own business, as you well know, as a small business owner, to not constantly have to be worried about what's the next shoe that's going to drop coming from your own government.

01:00:28.520 So, Carol, one last question.

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01:00:44.220 Some people say that's really good.

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01:03:06.780 You'll have the debate, and then we'll have post-coverage afterward.

01:03:09.980 Yep.

01:03:10.200 And I'll be there, and everybody is going to be there, all hands on deck tonight.

01:03:15.000 We're going to give you great coverage.

01:03:16.560 And the debate will be wall-to-wall.

01:03:20.620 It'll be the same thing.

01:03:21.880 You know, we're just taking the ABC feed.

01:03:24.040 We paid for it.

01:03:25.740 So we're just taking their feed and letting that run.

01:03:31.160 No comment during it, and then lots of comments after to tell you what it all means.

01:03:37.840 Carol Roth is with us.

01:03:39.460 So tell me about the options the Fed has now, what's happened with employment, why they might

01:03:47.320 be dropping the interest rate, and is it a good thing or a bad thing?

01:03:52.580 Well, so I have always contended that the Fed didn't have the right tools to address inflation,

01:04:00.640 that inflation was coming from supply constraints, not demand, that the Fed really focuses on demand,

01:04:07.800 and after 15 years of zero interest rate policy, that it wasn't really them that changed much

01:04:14.160 of what was going on in terms of demand for new loans, et cetera.

01:04:18.600 But they have taken up the interest rate very high, and a lot of people in the market, a lot

01:04:24.420 of investors feel like they are behind the curve in terms of normalizing policy because

01:04:29.960 they don't want to keep it so restrictive that they cause a recession.

01:04:34.120 That's the concern all along.

01:04:37.800 So now that inflation has come down on a headline number, we know cumulatively it's up over 20%,

01:04:45.880 and that's what Americans are contending with.

01:04:48.440 But from a policy standpoint, they see that inflation is coming down, and they see that

01:04:53.560 the labor market isn't quite as robust as they had hoped.

01:04:57.880 And so they're trying to address policy to quash any recessionary outcomes.

01:05:04.640 That's really what they're trying to do.

01:05:06.320 So they have a couple choices, right?

01:05:08.140 They could do nothing, as they have done for a while.

01:05:10.660 We have about a minute.

01:05:11.380 Or they could deliver a cut.

01:05:13.440 And now they're deciding between a half a percent and a quarter of a percent.

01:05:17.760 A half a percent may be bad news for them because it may give the market a signal that things

01:05:23.560 are worse off than they are.

01:05:25.360 So I think that they're going to be a little bit more cautious and go for that 25 basis point or quarter of a percent cut.

01:05:33.680 All right.

01:05:34.420 So you don't think that it will, unless it's 50 basis points, you don't think that it will be a bad thing

01:05:42.600 other than signaling that things might be worse than they thought.

01:05:47.100 Right.

01:05:48.220 And it's a much bigger signal at 50 than it is at 25, given where we stand with all the data.

01:05:54.280 But I know you've got limited time.

01:05:55.940 We could get more into that another day.

01:05:57.700 Yeah.

01:05:57.940 And I'm not sure that anybody will want to open up the purse strings at this point.

01:06:03.440 I think everybody is waiting to see what's going to happen, you know, with the presidential election.

01:06:11.780 I mean, because we're going one way or the other, and they're in opposite directions.

01:06:17.100 So it's kind of a scary place to be as an investor or a small business person or just, you know,

01:06:23.760 a regular worker in America today.

01:06:26.960 Carol, thank you so much.

01:06:28.240 Carol Roth.

01:06:30.860 Back in a minute.

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01:08:33.020 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:08:33.760 I like it when you host because then all the pressure's off.

01:08:36.880 Right.

01:08:37.040 And I could just pay attention to what is happening, and then it's not my show I don't have to worry about.

01:08:44.180 Right.

01:08:44.420 You know what I mean?

01:08:44.840 Right.

01:08:45.060 If it's a massive failure, it's on me.

01:08:46.600 Yeah.

01:08:46.980 And not you.

01:08:47.740 And usually massive failures come from guests.

01:08:51.920 Wow.

01:08:52.860 This sounds a lot worse than what I was thinking this morning.

01:08:55.300 No.

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01:09:13.440 Well, let me start with one.

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01:09:16.440 This is during last week's episode from my Wednesday night special.

01:09:26.120 Listen to what I said last week.

01:09:28.820 Around 70 countries, near half of the global population, are now voting this year.

01:09:35.520 And there are two big questions that the global population are just not allowed to ask about or talk about.

01:09:43.040 Elections and immigration.

01:09:45.060 It's weird.

01:09:47.560 The most people in history are voting this year.

01:09:50.860 And throughout that, we're not allowed to question the sanctity and the safety of our elections.

01:09:56.780 And we're silenced on probably the biggest question in front of us, immigration.

01:10:03.640 The evidence of censorship is everywhere.

01:10:07.460 Mark Zuckerberg finally admitted what you and I have known all along.

01:10:11.580 Facebook did censor us on behalf of the United States government.

01:10:17.160 Well, that's great that he finally actually said it.

01:10:20.580 But what about all those who lost livelihoods or our voices during the great thought purge by big tech?

01:10:29.140 But it isn't just a problem here at home.

01:10:31.860 You see, what I told you about a global government that is coming is here.

01:10:38.400 This is a global operation.

01:10:41.060 France has arrested the CEO of Telegram, charging him with 12 crimes.

01:10:46.880 Telegram is one of the main apps that protesters use to coordinate their demonstrations.

01:10:51.580 And governments, well, they don't like this, including apparently our own.

01:10:57.000 So they have been censoring us, as we know.

01:11:02.340 But remember, the left and the White House said that was a conspiracy theory.

01:11:07.400 But we now know Zuckerberg has admitted to it.

01:11:12.320 YouTube, which is run by Google, our episodes usually average first day 100K, 100,000 people.

01:11:23.340 OK, just on one platform on YouTube.

01:11:28.460 Well, it flatlined this last episode where I said we're going to be censored because we're questioning both the election and immigration.

01:11:39.340 And I said it was going to be censored.

01:11:42.360 This one can't get past 50,000.

01:11:45.360 I don't know what it is now, but the growth is incredibly slow on this.

01:11:50.180 So much so, it has to have been censored.

01:11:53.580 They're looking into it right now.

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01:12:53.080 All right, so let me tell you what is really happening in America.

01:12:58.000 Let me, I'm going to start, I'm going to start with cut eight.

01:13:03.300 Kamala Harris on the Afghanistan withdrawal.

01:13:08.360 Listen to this.

01:13:09.020 You just made a really big decision.

01:13:11.440 Afghanistan.

01:13:12.240 Yes.

01:13:13.100 Were you the last person in the room?

01:13:14.660 Yes.

01:13:15.960 And you feel comfortable?

01:13:17.320 I do.

01:13:18.600 And I'm going to add to that.

01:13:22.180 Please do.

01:13:23.880 This is a president who has an extraordinary amount of courage.

01:13:29.900 Okay, so this was her after the Afghanistan withdrawal.

01:13:35.160 Notice, who is she doing the interview with?

01:13:37.460 Dana Bash.

01:13:38.120 Yeah.

01:13:38.640 So she's doing it on CNN with the same lady who she just gave her only interview to.

01:13:44.920 And she's like, so you're happy with it?

01:13:47.200 You were the last person in the room?

01:13:48.980 Yes.

01:13:49.320 Now, Kamala is, through her handlers, is they're saying she had nothing to do with Afghanistan.

01:13:58.240 She wasn't involved in that decision at all.

01:14:01.800 So was she lying then or is she lying now?

01:14:04.880 Or was she lying both times?

01:14:06.520 Because that's what it seems like.

01:14:07.960 They lie.

01:14:09.020 Whenever they get trapped, they lie.

01:14:11.660 And then they switch the lie.

01:14:13.420 And then they try to switch it again.

01:14:15.680 And eventually, they just say, yeah, that's it.

01:14:18.460 That's the truth.

01:14:20.460 So there she is on Afghanistan.

01:14:23.260 Now, remember, we had a Middle East peace accord, the Abrahamic accords.

01:14:31.540 That was a stunning thing.

01:14:33.680 No one thought that was ever even possible.

01:14:37.640 And yet, the media downplayed it.

01:14:39.840 And so when there was war that just broke out, why did that break out?

01:14:43.540 Because of the Biden administration.

01:14:46.460 Afghanistan.

01:14:47.960 Why did Putin invade?

01:14:52.540 Because he knew this administration was weak.

01:14:56.480 Now, we're backing up Ukraine.

01:14:59.400 In fact, for some reason, our CIA came out and said, we're happy with the drones and the way they're being effectively used in Moscow to blow up buildings in Moscow.

01:15:14.000 It's like we're itching for war.

01:15:16.800 Do you think she's the right woman to take us in and out of war?

01:15:21.960 Now, here she is in 2021 about Haitian migrants, which we're now having a problem with.

01:15:29.120 Listen to this.

01:15:29.780 Cut to that is why also starting with our administration, we gave TPS, temporary protected status to Haitian migrants.

01:15:38.300 It's 55,000.

01:15:40.000 And then more recently, we extended temporary protected status to over 100,000 Haitian migrants for that very reason, that they need support.

01:15:49.460 They need protection.

01:15:51.700 So they need protection.

01:15:53.680 They need support.

01:15:55.760 Ohio, how are you doing with those Haitians?

01:15:58.660 How are you doing?

01:15:59.240 What right does this government have to come in in the middle of the night and take a town of 50 or 60,000 and add 20,000 people that don't relate to our culture at all and just dump them there and then leave you the bill, leave you the problem of I can't get into the hospital now because it's overrun.

01:16:25.980 She's proud of that.

01:16:27.600 Here she is in 2019 talking about ICE.

01:16:33.640 For the first time on her campaign website, a K-File investigation has uncovered, meantime, a 2019 questionnaire.

01:16:41.820 And in this questionnaire, Harris laid out some much more liberal stances, among them on immigration.

01:16:48.380 So in 2019, in what K-File found, she said she would cut funding to ICE, writing, quote,

01:16:53.800 Our immigrant detention system is out of control, and I believe we must end the unfair incarceration of thousands of individuals, families and children.

01:17:01.260 I was one of the first senators after President Trump was elected to advocate for a decrease in funding to ICE.

01:17:08.620 Well, now, of course, she's touting the Biden administration's executive order to crack down on the border.

01:17:12.540 Let's just take immigration and look at what she said here.

01:17:15.660 She said on immigration, she made this open-ended pledge to end immigrant detention.

01:17:20.760 She said she supported taxpayer-funded gender transition surgeries for detained migrants.

01:17:26.200 She also said she supported...

01:17:27.380 Taxpayer-funded gender transition surgeries for detained migrants.

01:17:29.680 For detained migrants.

01:17:30.260 She actually said she supported that.

01:17:31.720 She wrote, both wrote and answered in the affirmative when she was asked this.

01:17:36.640 And she said she also supported it for federal prisoners.

01:17:39.940 Now, she also pledged to slash immigration detention by 50 percent, close all family and private facilities,

01:17:46.540 and decrease funding for ICE, and then end ICE detainers with local law enforcement.

01:17:53.160 So that's what she said in 2019.

01:17:55.480 You see, she was the first, once they were elected, to advocate for all of these things.

01:18:02.860 She was advocating for it.

01:18:04.580 Now, she says she's strong on the border and shows in her ads pictures of the Trump border wall,

01:18:10.920 which she said was the biggest waste of taxpayer money ever.

01:18:16.120 So you know, whoever is running the White House is going to be running the White House if she's in charge.

01:18:23.480 Not a lot is going to change.

01:18:25.880 Here's my Orcas on policies of deporting illegals this last Friday.

01:18:33.980 And by the way, forgive me.

01:18:37.040 I was speaking of operational reality.

01:18:39.700 I was talking about practicality.

01:18:42.280 I was not talking about policy.

01:18:44.360 I didn't address the fundamental issue of whether that is good policy.

01:18:49.860 Do you want to say whether or not it's good policy?

01:18:52.480 Um, it is not good policy.

01:18:57.960 Okay.

01:18:59.000 So deporting people is not good policy.

01:19:01.980 He says it's impossible.

01:19:03.620 I mean, I'm going to put a man on the moon and return him in the next decade.

01:19:08.100 We can't deport people.

01:19:10.060 We can't send people across the border with this administration.

01:19:14.560 Then you have the breakdown of our cities, not only because of immigration, but because of her policies and her desire to reimagine the cops.

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01:21:24.000 So, what is this all leading to?

01:21:27.300 What?

01:21:28.340 You know, there's a story out, a gift now to Donald Trump today.

01:21:33.000 They just rolled out Kamala Harris's policy page.

01:21:38.300 However, the New Republic, which is not conservative, to say the least, uh, they went in and they looked at the policy page and then looked at what it said.

01:21:53.580 And then somebody who knew what they were doing with coding went in and looked at the code on the page.

01:21:59.840 And what did they find?

01:22:01.460 Literally, they found that the new policy page of the Kamala Harris website, which has been weeks and weeks and weeks in the making.

01:22:08.800 They had no policy page until Sunday.

01:22:11.560 Finally, they came up with a policy page and they literally just copy and pasted it from Joe Biden's site.

01:22:17.660 They have the code.

01:22:19.380 They compared the code and it's exactly the same code.

01:22:23.940 Right.

01:22:24.200 So, you can read it on Kamala Harris's site.

01:22:26.220 But if you post, like, links to certain things, it shows up.

01:22:29.640 Vote for Joe Biden today.

01:22:31.580 Because they didn't even bother to change the names in the code.

01:22:35.500 That is, that is so incredible.

01:22:38.540 They've had all of this time.

01:22:40.300 They care so little about policy.

01:22:43.380 They want to just put something up.

01:22:45.440 Somebody who was, this is not a priority, obviously, is copying and pasted.

01:22:50.540 So, when she says, we're turning the page on the past, all she's actually saying is, okay, we're done with page one.

01:22:58.920 All right, everybody, we're on page two.

01:23:01.480 That's literally what's happening.

01:23:03.380 And what a pre-debate gift to Donald Trump.

01:23:08.100 Who's the candidate of change?

01:23:09.820 Probably not the one who copy and pasted the policy page of the current president.

01:23:14.180 So, we have the same policies coming.

01:23:17.380 We have a country that is out of control economically.

01:23:21.600 It's out of control with immigrants.

01:23:24.000 It's out of control with its foreign policy.

01:23:26.860 Everything is in self-destruct mode at this point, including our police.

01:23:32.700 Now, why are our police horrible?

01:23:36.420 Well, a lot of police are not horrible.

01:23:40.240 But they reimagined the police.

01:23:44.100 And so, in some cities, it's hard to get good guys to be cops anymore.

01:23:48.900 They don't want to be cops anymore.

01:23:50.260 Because of Kamala Harris and people like her that wanted to completely change the policing.

01:23:59.180 I want you to listen to this cop.

01:24:01.820 He comes into a woman's home.

01:24:05.140 And this is what happens.

01:24:06.980 Cut 20.

01:24:09.040 I am not going to step outside your house.

01:24:11.140 Anyway, I'm right here.

01:24:12.440 Because you walked in.

01:24:13.460 No, because they opened the door and ran from me.

01:24:15.900 And now that I'm inside your house, I own your house right now.

01:24:19.600 Yes, I do.

01:24:23.960 Okay, so here he is.

01:24:28.180 He's.

01:24:29.860 Back up my house.

01:24:31.620 You do not have a right to be inside my house.

01:24:33.660 I will talk to you outside.

01:24:34.940 Back up and talk to her outside.

01:24:36.380 No.

01:24:36.640 You don't have a warrant.

01:24:37.540 No, don't talk to them.

01:24:38.400 You do not have a warrant to be inside.

01:24:40.380 I will talk to you outside.

01:24:41.620 You want?

01:24:42.440 Officer, I will talk to you.

01:24:43.420 I am not going to step outside your house.

01:24:45.080 Listen, so he doesn't have a warrant.

01:24:48.500 He walked in.

01:24:49.480 The kids were afraid.

01:24:51.260 And so he walked into the house.

01:24:53.440 He's one step past the threshold.

01:24:55.840 And he says, I own your house.

01:24:58.520 This is out of control.

01:25:00.060 When the police don't defend the Constitution, they work for us.

01:25:07.960 Politicians work for us.

01:25:11.380 Not the other way around.

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01:29:39.880 Liz Wheeler.

01:29:41.360 How are you?

01:29:42.120 I'm well.

01:29:42.760 Thanks for having me.

01:29:43.520 You're welcome.

01:29:44.220 You're welcome.

01:29:45.020 So I guess I'm going to start where Stu started with meat this morning.

01:29:50.760 Are you optimistic?

01:29:52.600 I'm so excited for this debate.

01:29:54.080 Are you really?

01:29:54.660 Yes.

01:29:54.920 I'm such a political nerd.

01:29:55.940 I love this kind of stuff.

01:29:56.860 I know it's a circus.

01:29:57.780 It's a clown show, but it's also, it seems like a culmination of what we fight for every day.

01:30:03.080 We finally have two people that are representing polar opposite viewpoints for our country,

01:30:08.440 different paths, and I'm rooting for Trump.

01:30:10.660 I think he can win, but I think one of the most important things that he has to do is

01:30:14.420 understand his enemy.

01:30:15.880 Yeah.

01:30:16.000 If you know your enemy, then you will be able to defeat them, and he has to be very self-aware

01:30:20.280 that Kamala Harris is going to try to be this girl boss, girl power.

01:30:26.000 She's going to try to provoke him emotionally, and he has to be able to let that roll off

01:30:30.100 of his back.

01:30:30.780 So what do you mean she's going to be that girl boss, girl power?

01:30:34.380 Remember when she was debating Mike Pence during the last round, and she goes, excuse

01:30:38.040 me, Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking.

01:30:39.920 Yeah.

01:30:40.160 Why do you think this time her team insisted that the mics be left open versus, remember

01:30:44.940 in the first debates between Trump and Biden, the mics were muted, so you could only speak

01:30:49.480 during your allotted time, otherwise no one would be able to hear you.

01:30:51.860 All of a sudden, she had agreed to this, and then last week her team says, actually, we

01:30:55.500 want the mics open.

01:30:56.360 Well, why?

01:30:57.300 So that she can run these quote-unquote fact checks in real time.

01:31:01.100 She can say, you're lying, I'm speaking, and make it seem like he's this white patriarchal

01:31:05.600 male who's trying to be a bully to her as a woman of color.

01:31:09.440 I think if he handles this debate exactly the same way he handled it with Joe Biden, he's

01:31:16.360 going to do really well.

01:31:18.840 Yes, he did very well with Joe Biden because he stayed, he was so disciplined about his

01:31:24.060 message.

01:31:24.680 See, this is the thing.

01:31:25.840 Kamala Harris is a radical.

01:31:27.320 She's not moderate.

01:31:28.460 She's not centrist.

01:31:29.440 She shouldn't appeal to independence.

01:31:30.980 She is a radical leftist, a Marxist.

01:31:33.700 Her father was a Marxist, is a Marxist economics professor, and Donald Trump should highlight

01:31:39.700 that.

01:31:40.040 He has all the facts on his side.

01:31:41.880 She's been in the White House for four years now.

01:31:44.580 So her record is Joe Biden's record.

01:31:46.600 So on anything.

01:31:47.760 I don't know if you heard the news today, but her policy page is Joe Biden's policy page.

01:31:55.460 How do you do that?

01:31:57.060 It's like a gift to the Trump campaign.

01:31:58.640 Oh, it is.

01:31:59.320 It absolutely is.

01:31:59.780 She's going to come out and pretend to be a prosecutor.

01:32:01.620 She's going to ask him pointed question after pointed question.

01:32:03.960 She's going to call him a felon.

01:32:05.400 Yes.

01:32:05.600 And you know what he should do if she calls him a felon?

01:32:08.500 Because she's going to.

01:32:09.340 That's pulled well for them.

01:32:10.740 He should say, Madam Vice President, do you agree with the Supreme Court ruling that the

01:32:14.580 vaccine mandate that came from the Biden-Harris administration was illegal?

01:32:18.380 And if she says that she agrees with the Supreme Court, then she is acknowledging that

01:32:21.480 she was a tyrant trying to violate all of our medical freedom.

01:32:24.100 And if she says, no, I think the Supreme Court was wrong, then she's saying she thinks

01:32:27.200 it's legal for her to do that.

01:32:28.280 So when you want to talk about crime against people and a visceral response that people

01:32:32.520 are going to have to a crime committed against them, he should pivot to the topic that's

01:32:36.120 important for the viewers to understand.

01:32:38.480 He's never going to change Kamala's mind on stage.

01:32:40.540 But that's not the point.

01:32:42.320 The point is to showcase to the American people what she is.

01:32:45.900 So, you know, you started with saying, and I've wanted this for a long time, if we're

01:32:51.160 going to talk about communism, we're going to talk about truly changing the economy, changing

01:32:58.140 the Constitution, all the things that the World Economic Forum has been doing, along with

01:33:03.880 a Biden-Harris thing, then let's have that conversation honestly, you know?

01:33:09.960 And we do have literally a communist.

01:33:15.720 What she is proposing is communism.

01:33:20.240 And her dad loves that stuff.

01:33:22.440 So she grew up steeped in all of this stuff.

01:33:26.420 But she won't admit it.

01:33:28.060 That's the problem.

01:33:29.100 No, but her track record shows it.

01:33:30.800 So all Trump has to do is remember one question.

01:33:32.840 Every time she makes an assertion, he should say, what does that mean?

01:33:35.500 And not, not, he should say it rhetorically.

01:33:37.020 He shouldn't give her back the microphone.

01:33:38.440 But if she says, I'm going to be tough on the border, he should say, what does that

01:33:41.040 mean?

01:33:41.600 During the past four years, when you were in the White House and had control of this as

01:33:44.540 the border czar, which was acknowledged by the United States Congress after Biden appointed

01:33:47.960 you to that position, eight and a half billion illegal aliens crossed the border.

01:33:51.120 So when you say you're going to be tough on the border, is that your definition of tough

01:33:53.440 on the border?

01:33:53.900 Or did you fail when you had a chance at this job?

01:33:55.800 She's going to say we have greatly stopped the flow of illegals.

01:34:01.280 I hope she does, because that'll turn people off, because people have Haitian migrants eating

01:34:06.200 ducks in their front yard in Springfield, Ohio.

01:34:08.440 They're not going to believe her when she says everything's hunky dory.

01:34:11.180 Yeah, I don't.

01:34:12.300 Tell me this.

01:34:13.680 I said to Stu yesterday that I'm actually becoming more and more optimistic about this

01:34:18.820 election because things are getting so bad.

01:34:23.060 The average person, I mean, if you're a stay-at-home mom, if you're a mom, you are worried about

01:34:30.860 your kids getting to and from school, even in California, where now the immigrants are

01:34:37.680 just staying at the bus stop, standing there with your kids.

01:34:42.380 And if the bus sees a bunch of immigrants there because they're trying to get on the buses,

01:34:47.160 if they see them, they just blow on by.

01:34:50.540 They won't pick your kid up.

01:34:51.720 So now your kid is left at the bus stop with illegals because the bus driver doesn't want

01:34:57.160 to stop.

01:34:59.420 Every day you're going in and you're fighting against prices.

01:35:04.300 The rate of the rise of inflation has slowed down.

01:35:10.600 But they keep saying that, you know, inflation is is falling.

01:35:14.780 No, the rate of how the rate of how of going up has slowed down.

01:35:22.760 But we're still 20 to 23 percent inflation compared to when Trump was in office.

01:35:28.600 That's all he has to say.

01:35:29.840 He just has to say, my fellow Americans, how much are you paying for groceries right

01:35:34.520 now?

01:35:34.740 What was your grocery bill last week?

01:35:36.020 How much did it cost you to fill up your tank of gas the last time you filled up at the gas

01:35:39.640 station?

01:35:40.080 And then he says, and how much did it cost when I was president?

01:35:43.020 And if Kamala Harris says, oh, I'm going to impose price controls or some other communist

01:35:46.480 measure that I think that was for the food industry.

01:35:48.400 But that's her general idea, which showcases exactly what she is.

01:35:52.340 He just has to say, well, do you support continuing to send U.S.

01:35:55.040 dollars to Ukraine?

01:35:55.720 Because that's what's causing the inflation.

01:35:57.020 She's going to say, yes, this is a fight against Putin.

01:35:59.580 He's a tyrant, blah, blah, blah.

01:36:00.880 After she finishes her spiel, Trump just says, OK, so what I'm hearing you say is, yes, you

01:36:04.400 want to continue to spend American dollars in Ukraine, which means you're saying to the

01:36:08.000 American people that you don't care how much their gas and groceries cost.

01:36:10.280 I do care.

01:36:11.240 And I've proved that because when I was in the White House, people had a very different

01:36:14.240 life than when you have been in the White House.

01:36:15.500 Yes, when you when it comes up to Ukraine, I mean, right now, Afghanistan is on everybody's

01:36:24.520 mind again because it was the anniversary.

01:36:26.640 Um, and that was such a disaster.

01:36:30.720 And now we are we are openly praising Ukrainians for their drone attacks on Moscow.

01:36:40.860 We would never put a if Canada became an enemy and Russia was sending drones over and military

01:36:50.260 equipment and they were they were bombing with drones, New York or Washington, D.C.

01:36:57.420 We would not put up with it.

01:37:00.780 They're not going to put up with it either.

01:37:03.080 Right.

01:37:03.680 And you how is she going to make the case that we are safer today?

01:37:11.020 Again, I go back to the mom worried about our kids.

01:37:14.760 I don't want to send my kids to war.

01:37:16.700 I don't want our world to be at war.

01:37:19.380 I'm also I don't want drag queens in my in my school, you know, for my kids.

01:37:24.940 It's all of these things are so worse, so much worse that I just think that when people

01:37:31.440 close the curtain.

01:37:33.920 This time around, they are going to reflect, do I want more of this?

01:37:38.740 Right.

01:37:39.080 That's why I encourage President Trump to stay on message, because if you get into the weeds

01:37:43.640 on the personal stuff, as as entertaining as that might be for us to watch for a moment,

01:37:49.440 the average American wants to talk about how things impacted them.

01:37:53.280 That's classic politics.

01:37:54.980 So with the war in Ukraine, yes, you can talk about these hypothetical war plans.

01:37:58.900 But the truth of the matter is Kamala is dragging us to the brink of war.

01:38:01.780 She arguably is the one who started this war by saying that Ukraine could be part of NATO.

01:38:05.780 That was what, a month before Russia invaded Ukraine.

01:38:09.600 There's no doubt that there was a correlation between those comments and the onset of this

01:38:13.100 war.

01:38:13.380 I mean, she is a warmonger.

01:38:14.740 She wants to continue this.

01:38:15.880 And then what's worse is she wants to draft our daughters and send them to war.

01:38:18.820 I know.

01:38:19.180 Tell that to the average, the average suburban mom.

01:38:21.520 The I have two young daughters, the idea that Kamala Harris could send them off to war

01:38:25.280 enrages me.

01:38:26.840 I have an 18-year-old daughter that could be drafted, I guess, under her if we went into

01:38:34.620 a war.

01:38:35.180 That is...

01:38:35.780 It's unacceptable.

01:38:36.960 Unacceptable.

01:38:37.440 I mean, and there's no Canada for my son to run to, but I'd have to have, I'd have

01:38:42.960 to find some place for my son and daughter to run to.

01:38:45.740 They will not serve in a war with these people.

01:38:49.800 They won't.

01:38:50.500 I, as a dad, would say, do not do it.

01:38:55.040 Where do we, where do we have you go to?

01:38:57.260 And it's a very frightening prospect for our country.

01:38:59.120 We shouldn't be in a situation where we feel like we have to run away from our country.

01:39:04.040 I have never felt that way.

01:39:05.960 No, I have not either.

01:39:07.200 Under any president.

01:39:07.880 And I'm a newer parent than you are.

01:39:09.440 My oldest is three and a half.

01:39:11.240 But the idea that I'm already having to think about all these different ways to protect

01:39:15.640 her from the left trying to get her, whether it's trying to indoctrinate her on abortion,

01:39:19.460 whether it's trying...

01:39:20.280 I actually had last year, it was not this past November, but the November before I had

01:39:23.620 a debate with a local school board member outside of the polls.

01:39:26.100 I was walking in carrying my daughter on my hip and the school board member or this candidate

01:39:30.520 I knew was very leftist.

01:39:31.940 And she wanted to talk about her policy.

01:39:33.760 So I'm like, sure, I enjoy this a little bit.

01:39:36.740 And I said to her, do you believe in teaching transgender ideology to children?

01:39:41.820 And she goes, oh, we need to be inclusive.

01:39:43.480 And I was like, I held up my daughter, who I don't use for political props, but she was

01:39:47.020 just there with me voting.

01:39:47.860 And I said, so if my two-year-old at the time said she wanted to be a boy, you would

01:39:53.120 transition her behind my back?

01:39:54.700 And essentially she said yes.

01:39:56.160 And I was like, evil.

01:39:57.880 That's evil.

01:39:58.520 That's what we're fighting against.

01:39:59.460 People who will say that to your face.

01:40:01.100 I know this is, I mean, President Trump should bring that up because.

01:40:04.580 You know, it's amazing what they'll say to our face.

01:40:07.120 Yeah.

01:40:07.420 And then what they say is a conspiracy theory that they always turn out now to be absolutely

01:40:13.920 accurate.

01:40:15.140 And they eventually admit it.

01:40:16.900 Yes.

01:40:17.220 Okay.

01:40:17.560 Yeah, that is true.

01:40:18.860 The things that they say to our face are frightening enough.

01:40:22.560 Yeah.

01:40:23.200 When somebody is unclear with you in this administration, you should be terrified.

01:40:28.420 And I don't know why people continue to listen to liars.

01:40:32.980 You know, Donald Trump exaggerates.

01:40:35.940 He exaggerates.

01:40:37.380 I don't know.

01:40:38.920 I mean, I can't think of anything of any importance that he has exaggerated or lied about.

01:40:46.400 Can you think of anything that he lied about?

01:40:48.360 Well, an example we talked about a couple of times when he was saying no, no one opposed

01:40:53.640 Roe versus Wade being overturned.

01:40:55.460 Right?

01:40:55.740 Yeah.

01:40:55.940 Now, what he's talking about there is clearly there were a lot of people on the left, legal

01:41:00.180 scholars who did think it was bad law.

01:41:02.720 So he's summarizing a legitimate situation by overstating it.

01:41:06.500 Correct.

01:41:06.960 Correct.

01:41:07.220 It's like a general, a hyperbolic generalization, not a lie.

01:41:10.060 But I'm not trying to justify not being precise, but there is a difference.

01:41:13.800 Yeah, there is a difference, and especially when you know you're lying.

01:41:18.220 You know, it's one thing to say this, and then, you know, and he said there are fine

01:41:22.720 people on both sides.

01:41:25.140 No, at this point, you are engaging in evil because you know exactly what you're doing.

01:41:32.280 That is exact opposite of what he said, and they just, I guess people just are, they're

01:41:40.140 either numb to it, or they hopefully are waking up and going, you know what?

01:41:45.820 These people have given me this crap in my home, in my bank account, and in my city.

01:41:55.620 I can't trust them anymore.

01:41:57.500 I just can't keep doing it.

01:41:59.860 Right, and obviously Kamala is responsible for her own lies, but the institution that's

01:42:05.800 responsible for allowing her to be a liar is the mainstream media, and that's what I would

01:42:09.260 advise President Trump.

01:42:10.540 He doesn't, he shouldn't come off as a bully.

01:42:12.560 There is the idea that if you have a man and a woman on stage, and the man's being very

01:42:16.140 harsh, there are a lot of women who will interpret that as being a bullying demeanor.

01:42:19.620 Whether or not it's true, that's simply the reality of how people perceive things.

01:42:23.520 And so he should say, what does that mean when she says a lie?

01:42:26.300 Because here are the statistics that show that that's not true, and say, I don't know why

01:42:29.700 you're telling an untruth except to deceive the American people, but this is why, this

01:42:33.140 is a good example of the damage that happens when the mainstream media runs interference

01:42:36.940 for you, because you shouldn't be on the stage if you're not going to tell a truth, but that

01:42:40.440 should have been weeded out years ago by media actually doing their job and asking questions

01:42:44.580 about why you were contradicting your actions.

01:42:46.700 All right, back in just a second, we're with Liz Wheeler.

01:42:49.480 I want to talk to you, Liz, about abortion.

01:42:52.860 How should he handle it?

01:42:54.820 Because that's her big thing.

01:42:56.300 I mean, she's in the evil territory.

01:43:00.380 She's not just pro-choice, she's pro-abortion.

01:43:02.140 Oh, yeah.

01:43:02.640 Yeah.

01:43:02.920 And she's almost Malthusian.

01:43:07.040 You know, when you're willing to go, eh, let the baby die after birth, that's a problem.

01:43:13.460 It's child sacrifice.

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01:44:57.240 So, how should he handle abortion?

01:45:10.500 Because she's going to lie and say he wants to take all of your rights away, which he doesn't.

01:45:17.240 He doesn't, but he has to say what he actually believes, but he also can't piss off his own

01:45:24.020 core because he already has pissed them off, so he doesn't need to make it worse.

01:45:30.740 How does he respond to that?

01:45:31.900 It depends on how she brings it up.

01:45:34.960 I am more pro-life than Donald Trump.

01:45:37.420 I am a pro-life absolutist, and I encourage Donald Trump and everyone to be the same way.

01:45:42.240 I acknowledge the reality that he is not.

01:45:44.820 My advice to him would be to start out by praising life.

01:45:49.520 Say, life is precious.

01:45:50.860 Life is wonderful.

01:45:51.660 I have five children.

01:45:53.640 I have however many grandchildren.

01:45:55.420 They have been the biggest blessings of my life, and I want to ensure that women across

01:46:01.020 our country and American families, I want to make abortion unthinkable.

01:46:04.780 I want to change the culture so that life is something that we value.

01:46:08.620 I want us to think, who might this young girl or young boy be?

01:46:13.060 And I want to make it financially possible.

01:46:16.140 I want people to feel financially secure and emotionally supported when they face these

01:46:20.740 surprise pregnancies.

01:46:23.260 I believe that life begins at conception.

01:46:25.440 I know he is unlikely to say that because he talks often about thinking abortion is okay

01:46:31.640 through six weeks.

01:46:32.320 I obviously disagree with that, but I encourage him to follow the science and follow.

01:46:36.420 He always talks about following the heart.

01:46:38.060 If he truly spends some time in reflection, I think that he should be based.

01:46:42.280 I think that he should say abortion is wrong.

01:46:44.460 Abortion is sad.

01:46:45.440 Abortion ends the life of an unborn baby who had potential and a future, and it harms women,

01:46:50.160 it harms families, it harms our countries.

01:46:51.600 I don't want that.

01:46:53.200 And he should make it a generally positive message without sacrificing the value of the

01:46:57.780 dignity of life.

01:46:58.540 Can he go in to, you know, she wants abortion after birth?

01:47:06.620 Oh, he of course should highlight.

01:47:08.520 He of course should highlight just how radical she is.

01:47:11.180 I mean, this is one of the most radical politicians in our country on abortion.

01:47:15.080 If not the most.

01:47:16.420 Oh, yeah.

01:47:17.500 She's almost Margaret Sanger.

01:47:20.080 Probably more so because Margaret Sanger at the beginning didn't support late-term

01:47:23.580 abortion or afterbirth abortion.

01:47:26.640 That's true.

01:47:27.060 Kamala Harris does.

01:47:27.980 And he should highlight that she's out of step with the American people.

01:47:30.040 Even women who identify as pro-choice, 80% of Americans, including pro-choice women, wants

01:47:35.540 late-term abortion to be banned.

01:47:37.220 60% want second-term abortion to be banned.

01:47:39.640 He should highlight that he stands with the majority of America and that she does not.

01:47:44.680 And he certainly should highlight that the CDC says between 13,000 and 30,000 times a

01:47:49.060 year late-term abortions happen.

01:47:50.480 That's awful.

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01:49:33.380 We're glad that you're here.

01:49:34.860 So I saw this meme online and I thought, this is incredible.

01:49:41.600 And before I hit post, I sent it to my researchers and I said, is this true?

01:49:50.100 Because if it's true, how come I've never heard this before?

01:49:53.200 The meme that's being circulated on the internet is the U.S. has the third highest murder rate.

01:50:00.180 But if you remove the five worst cities in the states that have the strictest gun control,

01:50:08.420 the U.S. goes from third to like 180th.

01:50:12.840 And I'm like, that can't be.

01:50:15.900 I hope it is, but it can't be.

01:50:18.700 Well, it's not.

01:50:19.540 And we called John Lott to find out.

01:50:22.640 And John is probably the best guy.

01:50:24.880 I think he is the best guy on crime statistics and gun statistics.

01:50:31.320 John Lott Jr. is joining us now.

01:50:33.120 Crime Prevention Research Center president.

01:50:36.500 And welcome to the program, John.

01:50:38.360 Good to talk to you.

01:50:39.600 Great.

01:50:40.200 It's great to talk to you again, Glenn.

01:50:42.020 Thanks for having me on.

01:50:42.920 You bet.

01:50:43.700 So that isn't true.

01:50:46.280 You were the guy who said, no, not even close, right?

01:50:52.140 It's amazing how many errors one can have in one sentence.

01:50:55.740 Yeah.

01:50:57.140 So what is true?

01:51:00.720 Is there good news on this at all?

01:51:05.140 I think so.

01:51:06.440 I mean, the United States is actually well below the average and well below the median

01:51:11.960 population in terms of homicide rates across countries.

01:51:17.780 You know, often people will make comparisons, but it's very selective on what countries they

01:51:23.880 make comparisons with.

01:51:25.400 You know, one thing also is if you look at, you know, something like the New York Times

01:51:30.180 or Washington Post or whatever, what they'll do is they'll have a graphic that talks about

01:51:34.700 firearm homicides and how that compares to other countries.

01:51:39.080 The problem with that is that, you know, in the United States, we're kind of spoiled with

01:51:44.380 all the data that we have.

01:51:45.740 Most countries don't even collect data on firearm homicides.

01:51:50.900 You're lucky to get total homicides from them.

01:51:54.140 And the countries that don't report firearm homicides are the countries with the highest

01:52:00.200 homicide rates.

01:52:01.340 So, you know, we could be we could be at the middle and if the top half don't report the

01:52:08.380 firearm homicide data, it would make it look like we're right at the top when it's really

01:52:12.480 just an artifact of which countries report the data.

01:52:17.000 What's the difference between murder and homicide?

01:52:20.320 I'm glad you asked that because a lot of people get that confused.

01:52:24.220 They think they're the same.

01:52:25.980 Homicides are murders plus justifiable homicides.

01:52:29.280 It's not never really been obvious to me why you want to lump those two things together.

01:52:34.120 Right.

01:52:34.400 A woman who shoots a rapist who breaks into her home at 2 a.m.

01:52:38.420 in the morning seems a lot different to me than a robber who kills somebody that he's

01:52:43.840 trying to rob.

01:52:44.920 But it also affects the international data because not only do most countries kind of break out

01:52:52.020 firearm homicides.

01:52:54.640 Most countries don't report murders.

01:52:56.860 Most countries just report homicides.

01:52:59.860 And the problem is, is the United States is is way over representative in terms of defensive

01:53:06.740 gun uses compared to other countries.

01:53:09.560 And so we were just to take out.

01:53:11.820 So just looking at homicides makes us look even worse relative to other countries.

01:53:17.820 Tell me, John, because we know school shootings, they're going to come up tonight.

01:53:23.180 And she is I mean, she's on record saying gun confiscation, if I'm not mistaken.

01:53:29.820 Oh, yeah.

01:53:30.380 Yeah.

01:53:30.640 I mean, she is radical on guns and, you know, will confiscate guns.

01:53:38.260 But they're going to talk about, you know, the use of AR-15s and the school shootings.

01:53:44.680 What should the president say?

01:53:48.440 Right.

01:53:49.140 Well, I mean, look, I want to do something to stop these attacks, but I want to do something

01:53:54.420 that actually matters.

01:53:55.520 So, you know, Kamala Harris and Biden and Obama, you know, kind of the number one thing

01:54:02.640 that they keep pointing to are things like background checks on the private transfers of

01:54:06.840 guns.

01:54:07.040 There's not one mass public shooting of any type this century that would have been stopped

01:54:12.920 if such a law had been in effect and been perfectly enforced.

01:54:16.040 I wish somebody would go and ask, you know, one of these politicians, you know, some reporter

01:54:22.740 just saying, well, what is you're talking about passing this law now?

01:54:26.520 Would it have stopped the most recent attack that we're talking about?

01:54:30.140 Would it have stopped any of them?

01:54:31.860 You know, the thing is, you look at the school shooting in Georgia, yet again, you had another

01:54:40.740 attack at a place where people were banned from having guns, where civilians were banned.

01:54:47.840 There's some school districts.

01:54:50.140 There's three counties in Georgia that allow teachers and staff to carry concealed handguns.

01:54:55.960 Unfortunately, this wasn't one of them.

01:54:57.780 We've looked at all the school shootings in the United States from 2000 on, and you have

01:55:05.440 something like over 10,000 schools that have armed teachers and staff.

01:55:10.520 I mean, it varies.

01:55:11.720 States like Utah and New Hampshire, if you have a concealed carry permit, a teacher is allowed

01:55:17.000 to automatically carry on school property.

01:55:19.980 In other places, it requires the school board or the superintendent.

01:55:23.500 So a state like Texas has maybe 40% of the school districts have armed teachers and staff.

01:55:31.180 And yet, for all those years and all those schools that will have teachers and staff carrying,

01:55:37.900 there's not one attack where anybody's been wounded or killed at any school that has a teacher

01:55:45.380 or staff carrying.

01:55:46.280 You know, the issue is, you know, fortunately, in the Georgia case, there was a school resource

01:55:54.040 officer who had a gun and was able to stop it.

01:55:57.680 But what I don't think people understand is what an incredibly difficult job somebody in

01:56:02.860 uniform has in stopping these attacks.

01:56:06.320 You know, if you're the attacker, you have huge tactical advantages.

01:56:09.280 You can wait for the person in uniform to leave the area before you attack, or you can move

01:56:15.140 on to another target.

01:56:16.380 Or if you're going to go after that particular place, then who do you think you take out

01:56:20.600 first?

01:56:20.980 If you take out the person in uniform, it's kind of like one thing I ask people, we have

01:56:27.020 air marshals.

01:56:28.440 Who would put air marshals in uniforms?

01:56:31.300 Would anybody say we should have air?

01:56:33.660 Because if there is a terrorist on a plane, you know,

01:56:37.540 they know who to take out.

01:56:39.640 Exactly.

01:56:40.260 Yeah.

01:56:40.940 So if you're going to have a school resource officer, put them in regular clothes, give

01:56:47.420 them a staff position so they blend in and make it so they're not recognizable about who

01:56:52.620 is going to be able to go and stop the attacker.

01:56:55.340 Concealed carry gives a huge advantage because the attacker has no clue who they're supposed

01:57:01.260 to go and take out first.

01:57:02.720 So rather than having signs in front of these schools that say this is a gun-free zone,

01:57:09.060 that's a sign that you see in many schools in Texas and other places saying, warning,

01:57:14.840 select teachers and staff at this school are carrying concealed and will use these guns

01:57:20.020 to protect the students and others that are there.

01:57:22.940 These guys may be crazy, but they're not stupid.

01:57:26.120 Anybody who reads the diaries and manifestos, and I have to say, it just drives me absolutely

01:57:31.900 nuts the way the media refuses to cover the manifestos and diaries, the parts where they

01:57:38.600 explicitly explain time after time why they picked the targets that they did.

01:57:43.780 You know, the Nashville school shooter last year, in her diary, she talked about three

01:57:48.940 other targets that she wanted to go after.

01:57:51.840 But she decided not to because there were armed people there at the mall, you know, or the

01:57:58.300 Buffalo mass murderer the year before.

01:58:00.820 He explicitly says he wanted to go to a place where he didn't think his victims were going

01:58:05.180 to be able to defend themselves.

01:58:06.980 These guys want to get media attention, and they know the more people they kill, the more

01:58:12.040 media attention that they're going to be able to get.

01:58:14.200 And they know if they go to a place where their victims can't defend themselves, they're

01:58:19.100 going to be able to go and kill more people and get more media attention.

01:58:22.220 We're talking to John Lott.

01:58:24.980 John, hang on for just a minute, because I want to talk to you also about the property

01:58:30.420 crime and the violent crime.

01:58:33.140 The Democrats are saying, no, crime's not out of control, and illegals have nothing to

01:58:39.920 do with it, even if it was getting out of control.

01:58:43.440 Those both seem to be gigantic lies, and I know you have the answer to them.

01:58:49.880 We'll come back in just a minute with John Lott.

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02:00:13.560 The Glenn Beck Program will be right back.

02:00:26.540 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

02:00:33.060 John Lott, Jr. from the Crime Prevention Research Center, probably the best guy on crime and

02:00:40.280 gun statistics in the world.

02:00:44.420 He's joining us now.

02:00:46.300 I wanted to get this because the Democrats are saying crime is dropping.

02:00:52.500 At the same time, millions of illegals are entering the country, and we're seeing violent crime

02:01:00.400 like we have not seen ever before, and they're saying, no, no, no, no, they have nothing to

02:01:07.320 do with it, and it's dropping.

02:01:09.420 What's the truth on the crime rate and the illegal crime rate as well?

02:01:16.480 Right.

02:01:17.280 Well, I think you're right.

02:01:18.600 Look, there are two measures that we have of crime.

02:01:22.500 And the media just seems to only be looking at one of these measures and not realizing

02:01:28.380 what it's measuring.

02:01:31.360 And you'll see news headlines all the time that will say crime is falling, but people

02:01:36.580 erroneously think that it's increasing.

02:01:39.240 So the two measures are the FBI's measure of crimes reported to police.

02:01:45.080 And then there's the Bureau of Justice Statistics measure called the National Crime Victimization

02:01:50.560 Data, which gets a measure of total crime, both reported and unreported.

02:01:56.080 And prior to 2020, these two sets of numbers generally went up and down together.

02:02:02.080 But since 2020, they've been going in opposite directions.

02:02:04.960 So, for example, in 2022, the last year that both of those numbers are finalized for, what

02:02:13.980 you find is that while the FBI claims that there was a 2% drop in violent crime, the National

02:02:20.360 Crime Victimization Survey, which surveys about 240,000 people a year, this is really a massive

02:02:26.720 survey, showed a 42% increase in violent crime, the largest percentage increase that we've

02:02:34.520 ever seen.

02:02:35.900 And there are multiple reasons for that gap.

02:02:39.920 One of them is the fact that people have an idea that crime, law enforcement has collapsed

02:02:46.440 in this country.

02:02:47.200 But I think it collapsed even much more than people think.

02:02:49.560 You know, you go to a CBS or a Walgreens in many places in the country, whether it's

02:02:55.400 New York or Los Angeles or D.C., everything's behind plexiglass and you have to get a clerk.

02:03:04.040 People know that that wasn't the case a few years ago, but it's not just property crime

02:03:08.820 that that's occurring for.

02:03:10.520 So if you look at the arrest rates for large cities, what you find is in the five years

02:03:16.720 before COVID, 44% of violent crimes result, reported violent crimes result in arrest.

02:03:24.060 This is the FBI data.

02:03:25.960 By 2022, it was down to 20%.

02:03:29.180 That's over a 50% drop in arrests for reported crimes.

02:03:35.280 If you look at arrests for total crimes, it was 8%.

02:03:39.540 And it's even worse for property crimes.

02:03:42.000 The drop in property crimes was almost two thirds.

02:03:45.120 And only 4% of reported property crimes result in arrest and only 1% of total property crimes.

02:03:56.680 And obviously, as you've talked about many times, you have these prosecutors in many

02:04:01.120 places that just because somebody is arrested doesn't mean that they're going to be charged,

02:04:05.740 let alone prosecuted or convicted.

02:04:07.660 And so the risk for criminals committing crimes in many of these areas is almost nonexistent.

02:04:15.780 I mean, if you're committing a property crime in these large cities, it's like well less than

02:04:20.580 1% chance that you're going to be punished for committing the crime.

02:04:25.120 And is it surprising that if you have these huge drops in arrest rates?

02:04:30.100 We've never seen such low arrest rates in the entire time that the FBI has collected this

02:04:37.460 data for 70 years.

02:04:39.340 We've never seen anything even remotely close to having these low arrest rates, nor the drop

02:04:45.920 that we've seen in just a few year period of time.

02:04:49.340 So what should Trump say today when he talks about crime, and especially illegal crime?

02:04:59.440 I mean, you know, crime done by illegals.

02:05:02.980 Right.

02:05:03.440 But look, you're exactly right.

02:05:04.980 I mean, the Democrats and the media have made it explicit.

02:05:08.180 They've said, look, we've had all these millions of illegals coming into the country and crime

02:05:13.520 is dropping.

02:05:14.840 No, she said, she actually said the crime rate among illegals is lower than the U.S.

02:05:22.340 population at large.

02:05:24.440 Right.

02:05:25.220 Well, that's just false also.

02:05:27.500 I mean, look, what often happens if you go through the statistical studies that a lot

02:05:33.180 of left-wingers put out is they lump together legal and illegal immigrants, okay?

02:05:41.160 And for illegal immigrants coming into the country, their crime rate actually is extremely low.

02:05:48.560 I bet.

02:05:49.080 Relative to the general population.

02:05:50.760 But for illegals, particularly the most violent types of crimes like murder and kidnapping and

02:05:57.260 rape and things like that, their crime rate is extremely high.

02:06:03.140 And by lumping the two together in these numbers, you're obscuring the differences that are there.

02:06:09.780 You know, the other problem is that it's so politically toxic to even have governments collect this data here.

02:06:19.620 Right.

02:06:20.000 That, you know, you look at Europe, though, where they do collect data by country, and you

02:06:25.640 clearly see that as you have more illegals coming into a particular country, their homicide rates go up.

02:06:31.500 John Lott, thank you so much.

02:06:34.360 We'll see you tomorrow.

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