How Trump Can Fix Epstein Files Fallout Overnight | Guests: Douglass Mackey & Edwin Black | 7⧸10⧸25
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Glenn and Jaron are joined by special guest, U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Illinois) to discuss the biggest story of the day, the latest in the Russia scandal, and more.
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here at the standing rock ranch and uh and jason who's holding the fort down at our headquarters
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in uh in dallas texas uh hello jason hello stew how are you good morning glenn that was thrilling
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uh and how are you i'm doing very well glad there thank you very much yeah so tell me uh jason let's
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start with you biggest story of the day that's a combination of stories uh one an old story that's
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servicing again that um there's uh apparently a secret room in the hoover building that um contains a
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bunch of russiagate stuff that no one has apparently ever seen or heard of and then that in conjunction
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with uh how the fisa court is now okay in congress to look at certain things that no one had seen or
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heard from and john brennan's name is just coming up again out of nowhere no big deal uh he's just the
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guy that like would have maybe allowed stuff like the steel dossier to get in and spread all over the
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place you know like well the good news is they've only got about five weeks before a statute of
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limitations runs out on that guy oh my gosh good for them good for them we're all on top of it stew
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biggest story of the day um let me go with uh javier malay uh i love the story in that it's the the
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results of all these policies are coming out oh argentina's economy now growing at 7.7 percent
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holy cow um he the uh they are uh he eliminated rent controls now rent is actually going down
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the exact opposite we got to get into this i want to get into this fully in just a second
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let me tell you the biggest story of the day and i think it is the biggest story possibly
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of all mankind as of today it's going to change rapidly i don't know if anybody did either of you
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guys watch the elon musk thing last night no i i did watch a few minutes of it okay did you jason no
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sure didn't okay so the xai team was there um to unveil grok 4 this is the latest artificial
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intelligence system and let me be very very clear last night was not your typical tech launch this is a
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moment that demands everyone's full attention we are now at the crossroads where promise and peril
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are going to collide okay i have explained to you for years uh agi a ai agi and asi narrow intelligence
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is what we've always had general intelligence is the next step and that is it's better than man
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one one one you know like grok can do everything that you can do better than you can do okay and
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then there's super intelligence asi artificial super intelligence that's when things get really
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really creepy when you hit agi the road to asi could be overnight okay we need to understand uh what's
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at stake here because grok 4 brought us closer to that second stage than ever before grok 4 is a
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powerhouse they demonstrated it last night it surpasses the expertise of phd level scholars
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in all fields it can get 100 on any any test for any field mathematics physics engineering you name it
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this is not a search engine this is a system that tackles problems so intricate they they go beyond our
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existing knowledge base okay let's say there is let's say we have a fusion reactor and the magnetic
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containment system goes down i don't even know what i'm talking about at this point but it goes down
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and the top minds all on earth are like i don't know what to do grok 4 can step in model the physics
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design new material stabilize the system and avert catastrophe and it can do it about that fast
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now this is the capability that musk says is just around the corner mark my words you know how many
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how many years did i say between 2027 and 2030 we would start to see this oh a million times
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i it was always for years right i remember yeah yeah always the window and everybody even ray
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kurzweil said oh that's way too that's way too optimistic maybe 20 20 50 and then people started
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going 2040 then 2030 grok shows us 2026 or 2027 is when we're going to hit it this is the last year
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that we have before things get really weird okay last night elon musk is touting this this ai and and all
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of the solutions and then he says probably three times something like this and i'm quoting this is one
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of them it's somewhat unnerving to have created intelligence that's greater than our own he then goes on
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to call it terrifying twice now this is a man who's launched rockets you know into orbit uh going to
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mars and he says twice you know after he sees the results of it he says you know it's really in a way
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quite terrifying to see what it's doing but we just have to make sure that it remains good oh okay all
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sure sure now the key point in the announcement was the mention of arc agi i had never heard of arc
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agi now no idea what it was but i noticed agi and i'm like oh that sounds important so this is the gold
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uh the gold standard the benchmark testing for artificial general intelligence okay as i've said
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before agi artificial general intelligence is a machine that matches all human cognition across
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all domains reasoning creativity problem solving not just specialized tasks like playing go or analyzing
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x-rays everything for instance musk said by mid next year to the latest end of you next year
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it will be able to create a full length movie just from a text prompt and do it all at once so in other
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words it'll say create a movie and you just explain the godfather it will do the casting it will do the
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writing it will do the the filming if you will uh it will uh score the music and it will happen
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that fast almost in real time we are nowhere near the computational power now to do that separately
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but this will do it all at once it will make a movie with all of it simultaneously
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so the arc agi system is the benchmark on how close are we to agi remember scary things happen at agi
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terrifying things happen at asi asi asi could be a matter of hours or days after we hit agi
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grok 4 scored 16.2 percent on the arc agi scale why is that important you're like oh well they're only 16
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away because last time it barely broke eight percent and that they took that test uh last time with grok
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three and it took us forever to get to eight percent now what is it a year later we're at 16 percent
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remember these things are not linear the next time we could be at 32 we might be at 64
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we are on the verge this is the last year of i can't believe i'm saying this of normalcy okay this
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year is good we're gonna look back at this year and probably two years ago gosh you remember the good
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old days when everything was normal and you could understand everything this is how close we are
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this everything you and i talked about last night stew uh about what we're doing uh in january
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make put does it make it even more critical that that happens like oh i don't know right now
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yeah for sure um you are going to need to know your values your ethics your rights you're going to need
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to know absolutely everything now grok four is not true agi yet it lacks the full autonomy and the
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generalized reasoning of a human mind but it is the closest that we have come it's a system that can
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adapt innovate at a level that outpaces specialized ais by a wide margin this is a milestone this is not
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a destination but it's it's something that should jolt everybody awake so here's what's coming in the
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december 2025 he believes musk that grok four will drive through breakthroughs in material sciences
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so in other words imagine a new brand new alloy that is lighter than aluminum stronger than steel
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and it revolutionizes aerospace and everything else or a drug that halts alzheimer's progression
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tailored to a patient's dna grok will drive breakthroughs through material science so brand new
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brand new materials that nobody's ever thought of pharmaceuticals that we never thought could be made
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and chemical engineering putting together chemicals that no man has ever thought
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imagine a chemical compound that makes carbon capture economically viable the the climate change stuff
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that's over it will be over because this will solve that these are not fantasies this is grok four
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um musk said something never thought he said he believes within the next year by 2027
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grok four will uncover new physical laws so that will rewrite the understanding
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our understanding of the entire universe that there will come new you know like there's gravity
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hey you know what there's another law here that you never thought of wait what
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that he says will come by 2027 this is going to accelerate human discovery at an unprecedented scale
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i told you at some point i said by 2030 i might be a little earlier than that
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things are going to be happening at such a fast rate you're not going to be able to keep up with
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them and it will accelerate to the point to where you won't even understand what all of this means
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or what the ramifications are are you there yet
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in six months grok four could involve evolve into a system that dwarfs human expertise in economics
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it's a bit terrifying to quote uh elon musk why because we don't know what else comes with this
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this is like an alien life form we have no idea what to predict what it will be capable of
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how it will view us when we are ants to its intellect okay it is a tool but it is also pandora's box
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it grok four is the biggest step towards agi and may be one of the last steps to agi
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my feeling is what i've been saying forever 2027 to 2030 i am leaning more to the 2027 uh now
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because of this announcement last night we are on the verge of agi and everything in human existence
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changing over night and as musk said himself two times
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it's terrifying we should act like it is terrifying or risk losing the control of the future that we're
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all trying to build that's the biggest story of the day i think in my opinion now let's get to
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i was watching some of this grok thing last night a couple you didn't hit either of the
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two main things that i was no that thought maybe was most important okay number one uh the fact
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that elon musk found a group of people that he's the least awkward of um that was
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it was incredible was that an awkward the whole thing was oh my gosh there would be i mean this
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was a major i don't know what you would call a rollout or press conference in a way and he had
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like five people on the stage sitting with him and they all had microphones and there were times that
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they would just say something and then they would just sit there and they'd blink at one another
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right and then they'd look up at a screen and then one of them would awkwardly say
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oh another thing that can happen right it was really weird the most common phrase used was
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so yeah and and like the context would be like so that's up a 14.6 gain in that metric so
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yeah yeah yeah and then elon musk would be like uh and so what we're saying here is he'd have to
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like jump in to make it understandable yeah but the other part i thought was fascinating about this
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was musk highlighted this multiple times where he was saying he wanted to make sure that we were
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bringing this into the physical world and he's like and the way you do this is with optimists
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and he was talking about how grok would work with the robots i forgot about that yes yeah wasn't that
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oh yeah wait he's like he said grok now because it's it's going to agi grok we put grok into
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now the optimist which is his robot yeah and it will be able to understand it will be able to
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navigate anything we are on the verge of having real life robots that are smarter than you
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all over in our in our society so uh robocop yeah yeah yeah i mean that is legitimately the plot of
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every you know every everything uh sci-fi horror story that starts frankenstein yeah it's frankenstein
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we're i've i i tell you i um uh who is the guy that we know uh that does all the horror movies
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a blum oh jason blum yeah jason blum from blumhouse i was talking to him we were having lunch one time
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and i said you need to redo frankenstein and he's like i've kind of been there done that and i said no
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frank this is we are living in frankenstein right now we're doing it right now it's all agi
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it's frankenstein and the monster is going to revolt yeah the monster doesn't just like grunt right you
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know yeah it does feel that i mean yeah like the everyone was talking about the the the rise of
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mecha hitler the other day because yeah you know that grok release and it's like we get that story i feel
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like every single time there's a new release of these somebody is able to antagonize the ai into
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you know during the break I just laid out a terror a
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an idea of what I think a scenario that I think could happen pretty quickly logically
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that kind of makes it it falls right into the Elon Musk yeah terrifying terrifying that he said last
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night when he was unveiling Grok 4 we'll get into that a little bit later and also some of the other
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things that are going on with shockingly all of the progress that is being made now on uh on on
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different fronts with uh putting bad guys in jail in Washington we'll get into that uh but I wanted
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to talk to Douglas Mackey now this is a guy you probably know the name hopefully you do he was
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sentenced to seven months in prison for putting together a meme uh during the uh election with
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Hillary Clinton uh and he put a meme up uh that said uh you know you can you can vote from home and
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I don't remember what it was do we have the meme actually there yeah there it is yeah you just text
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Hillary and it says MAGA on it you know hashtag MAGA it's clearly I mean you have to be a nincompoop to
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believe this but you know there's a lot of nincompoops but uh just went away and then when Biden came in
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oh they decided to throw him uh throw the book at him uh and yesterday some really good news
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happened a federal judge overturned this and he is now free uh from this insane uh dare I say it
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hitlerian attempt on a freedom of speech uh Douglas Mackey is with us hi Doug hi Glenn great to be here
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thank you oh I bet it is good to be here today right wow it's a great day to be an American
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yeah so tell me uh first of all how'd you find out where were you uh and you know what the reaction
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was with you and your family yeah so here I am on the first day of vacation with my you know beautiful
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wife and our young son and my trial attorney sent me a text just said congrats and I figured
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wow it just happened so I called him up and he gave me the news shortly thereafter I was able to
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actually get a copy of the the opinion but no it's a great day to be on vacation I bet it was I bet it
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was so you've been going through this for how long yeah this is four and a half years since uh you know
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four FBI agents knocked on my door 7 a.m and that was seven days after Joe Biden was inaugurated
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wow wow they had you in the sights long before long before they got into office
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and oh that's right what did they say to you and what was your first reaction
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well they said you know are you Douglas Mackey we have a warrant for your arrest the first words out
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of my mouth were for what and I really had no idea that this meme was going to be the basis for
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prosecution because you know at the time I wasn't even on Twitter but back in the 2016 election
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cycle you know I tweeted thousands of times so I had no idea and you know but I did know that once
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they make you an enemy that it's like show me the man and I'll show you the crime so I was very curious
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to see what they had cooked up and I didn't even get to I didn't even know until after the arraignment
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when they they put it they took the leg shackles off me and placed a copy in my hands of a 30 page
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criminal complaint and were you surprised that you were charged under the Klan Act the Klan Act a
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federal felony I was shocked at the felony you know uh misdemeanor sometimes people would rather just
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plea out rather than go to the expense of fighting it but a federal felony the KKK act unbelievable
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and this was really kind of a trial balloon wasn't it the Justice Department was using the Klan Act to
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go after pro-life people really just anybody just targeting whom whomever so absolutely I was the
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first and let me mention this they indicted Donald J. Trump on the same statute
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wow um when um uh when you found out about the Klan Act and then I mean your attorney had to be
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freaking out saying this is ridiculous um and then when it was overturned yesterday how far do you think
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the ramifications of your case being overturned go is it just you no no absolutely not so I mean this is a
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total humiliation I believe for the sort of Biden DOJ I mean one of many uh but this is a total
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humiliation for the EDNY the DOJ the New York FBI and I think that unfortunately we did not necessarily
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get as sweeping of a constitutional victory because you probably know these appellate courts they kind
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of rule if you know once they come to a conclusion on let's say the one of the grounds they don't rule
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on all the other grounds so I think they're going to think long and hard before bringing more of these
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cases but unfortunately it's not part of the sweeping constitutional ruling that we wanted but
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but but nevertheless a great victory so Doug I have to tell you I think I heard a phrase you know it's
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the process uh more than the uh uh process is the punishment yeah the process that's it the process
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is the punishment and I've been thinking about that because I know somebody who has been waiting
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almost 10 years for the process and it's hanging over him and I thought I was talking to him a couple
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weeks ago and I said how do you even live your life it's all you never know you never know what the
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next thing is happening when they're going to start going okay well we're ready to take you to prison
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now I mean how what is that like to live under this you know only I would say only faith can get you
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through it I mean it just in the beginning uh the pre-trial is unbelievable I mean the amount of stress
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and then but then the trial comes along and that's even more stress and then you know one of the most
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difficult things to sit through is a sentencing hearing that was extremely difficult you know getting
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lectured at by this hardcore partisan hack on sitting on the bench and uh you know it's not
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about democrat or republican because the appellate court was bipartisan but in the case of this
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particular judge you know it was very much getting a lecture so and then you know and then she said
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we said we're moving for an appeal bond seven month sentence well appeals usually take a lot longer
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than seven months and we have extremely strong grounds not only uh evidentiary which is what we
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ultimately went on but constitutional grounds she denied the motion outright and guess what that means
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well you're sitting around wondering if you're going to win the appeal bond we had to go to the circuit
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court just to get an appeal bond and then we're sitting around waiting for that and so it's it's
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unbelievable and oh and by the way you know there's another 50 grand to argue that or 50 60 grand just to
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argue an appeal bond douglas when all this happened at the beginning did you have some like massive
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social media following that was moving tens of thousands of voters i mean what was your profile
00:32:25.880
at the time so at the time i did have a large account at 62 000 followers which back in the day was pretty
00:32:33.000
big and it was very active and they said you know they do these studies well you know i'm skeptical but
00:32:39.620
mit said it was one of the top 150 influential accounts on twitter at the time this would have
00:32:46.940
been early 16 during the primary and uh but the funny thing is that account was suspended by jack dorsey
00:32:55.000
early october and by the time i posted this meme i was doing it on a second account that only had
00:33:00.340
about 10 000 and that account the tweet itself only got like you know 100 likes or something
00:33:07.280
unbelievable likes how how why were you the target then of this that that's fascinating like why did
00:33:15.320
they single you out obviously people were posting all sorts of crazy things well you're not going to
00:33:20.400
believe this but it's got a lot to do with russia so uh well number one you know i'm a i was a
00:33:26.340
prominent quote-unquote influential trump supporter they had this uh breakdown about quote-unquote
00:33:32.340
disinformation misinformation it's supposedly this was enabling the rise of donald trump and
00:33:38.120
the quote-unquote far right right and so not only that they wanted to send a message about quote-unquote
00:33:44.360
misinformation and arrest a prominent trump supporter but they actually thought it's unbelievable
00:33:50.880
that the dj embraces these sort of theories but uh they actually thought that they were going to
00:33:56.420
arrest me they also squeezed the guy a poor guy this poor guy actually uh who pled guilty and and
00:34:03.880
cooperated he he testified against me in court on this non-existent crime and uh they thought they
00:34:10.440
were going to arrest me squeeze this other guy and and and and uncover some russia collusion this was on
00:34:18.260
the floor of the senate this meme was blown up on a big poster board on the floor of the senate senator
00:34:23.620
klobuchar did this and she said this is russia this is a crime we need investigation they actually
00:34:31.220
thought that that you know this was some russian plot uh to steal the election i i remember when we
00:34:38.260
reported on this and they were saying those things we said everybody everybody is at stake now because i
00:34:45.020
mean you know they if they can tie you with no connections to russia and say look this is a
00:34:51.240
russian plot and this is and without any evidence all of us could be you know swept up into this it was
00:34:57.640
a very dangerous thing and i'm so glad it was overturned you have to i mean i imagine that you went on a
00:35:03.380
very cheap vacation um because how much does this cost you and how are you paying for it yeah for sure you
00:35:11.860
know uh yeah this cost over 1 million probably approaching 1.5 i put in as much money as i
00:35:21.320
possibly could which is you know well into six figures and then we were able to raise money on
00:35:28.260
that non-profit called mean defense fund.com and but i still owe money you know i still owe a lot of money
00:35:35.140
and and uh we're going to raise some more money and we're going to file suit to try to recover all these
00:35:40.940
legal fees with the doj so you can go to meme defense fund.com if anybody wants to go chip in
00:35:47.320
a little bit meme defense fund.com meme defense fund.com this one matters to all of us um i wish
00:35:56.800
you the best douglas i'm glad to hear that this has passed from you uh and uh go fight him now go
00:36:02.880
fight him turn the tables on him thank you douglas thank you you bet meme defense fund.com go there
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eat at this time i mean it's just it's amazing it's just it's surreal i will say last night
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you were you're like we were just hanging out and we had a little bit of time open and you're like
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well you want to watch a movie and i have to say i did suggest a hitler movie and yeah it was you
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it was me this time it was all you we did watch valkyrie oh that's that's just a great one it's
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wow you know i'm in a meeting and i hear that uh there's a guy who's got a great insight on what
00:46:11.480
is going on with the epstein thing and they say it's bill o'reilly and i look at my staff and i
00:46:16.420
said i thought he was dead and they were like just why and they're like no apparently he's still
00:46:24.980
alive and i'm like shut up we should have him on so bill o'reilly uh is coming on to tell us
00:46:32.100
i don't have imis to kick around anymore that's true uh so anyway bill's joining us here in just
00:46:39.740
a second uh he had a conversation with president trump about the epstein files and i i think he
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where you're moving to and from and we'll find the right person for you all right bill o'reilly
00:48:05.480
welcome to the program sir how are you don't try to give me any of this back don't try to give me
00:48:13.080
this welcome however you know and right off the bat i have to correct you yeah you're not you're not
00:48:20.220
alive what he is dead i mean you know you don't know that oh yeah yeah all right no i no i i thought
00:48:29.160
you were dead anyway uh so bill me oh i i i get it just another brick in your wall
00:48:39.820
it's good to talk to you bill um tell me what you had a conversation with uh uh with president
00:48:49.660
trump of what a couple of months ago and you talked about patrick's day uh he invited me to sit in on a
00:48:56.760
cabinet meeting which he does from time to time uh and uh he said look we got files kennedy king
00:49:04.860
uh epstein what do you think and i said well first kennedy got put out pretty much everything which he did
00:49:13.340
uh king he didn't i don't know why uh because that's important too uh and then on epstein i said
00:49:20.620
you gotta be careful here because this is now being used uh in political uh precincts
00:49:27.740
both sides want to destroy anybody that was associated with epstein and the problem is
00:49:34.900
that uh a federal investigation they don't um make a determination whether you had a what kind of a
00:49:43.200
relationship you had with epstein they said so-and-so had lunch with him or maybe so-and-so uh
00:49:48.960
had uh saw him at a party and i said any name of a human being associated with epstein in any way
00:49:57.260
that person is going to be destroyed because you know the press is not going to put anything into
00:50:02.100
context um so i said but it's very important that the justice department tell the folks what they know
00:50:10.180
and you don't want to get specific with names but you you have to say this is the information that
00:50:16.660
we've compiled and that's not hard and i don't know why the trump administration is not doing that
00:50:22.440
wow so first of all it's your fault that we're not getting any names uh we learn a lot probably my
00:50:31.100
fault but the president you know what i think you're right i don't i don't want all the names of the
00:50:36.200
people i want to know and i don't know the justice right i want to know the justice department has
00:50:41.400
sorted through the things and then have gone uh gone through and said this is criminal this is not
00:50:48.160
these people are being indicted etc etc but to come out and say there is nothing there uh i mean it's
00:50:57.580
it's at least mass in it's mass incompetence at least from pam bondi how could she come out and say
00:51:05.940
it's all sitting on my desk and then when she doesn't release it she says well that's because
00:51:10.700
the fbi in new york is thwarting this process there are people up there that are trying to
00:51:16.300
keep this uh from me and then she makes no arrests on that we never hear about that again and now all of
00:51:22.480
a sudden there's nothing to see well listen pam bondi doesn't make decisions on her own
00:51:28.240
no cabinet member does all the decisions come out of the west wing so what i believe happened was
00:51:35.980
trump was so obsessed with the big bill with iran with putin with china that this he didn't even
00:51:44.260
think about this okay and then it slowly began and it slowly began to unravel and then it caught him
00:51:51.780
by surprise but this is easy to fix so so easy if i'm in charge and that would be a great thing for
00:51:59.600
everyone except you back but every other american if i were in charge tremendous you right would be
00:52:08.300
in botswana no right oh i know you would be on your way yeah yeah but anyway i'd be the ambassador
00:52:14.940
of the white farmers in in uh south africa if it were up to you i know i know no you'd be wandering
00:52:21.280
around going i'm glenn beck and they go who that's what you'd be doing um that's every day
00:52:27.160
this this could happen within the hour pam body announces a press conference for tomorrow
00:52:34.640
at that press conference sitting next to her is merrick garland everyone the attorney general
00:52:42.540
under biden who had this stuff for four years now i understand that uh mr garland has gone native
00:52:49.840
and is living in anguilla so but we can find him we can pull him out of there and have him and pam
00:52:56.040
sit there and answer questions in a general way about what evidence the justice department of the
00:53:04.300
united states has compiled not gonna happen that's it well if it's not gonna happen then president
00:53:12.720
trump is gonna take a hit but he's calculating that this will fade it's not that important but i don't
00:53:20.600
know why he won't do it i i just don't know and i'm usually pretty good at predicting what the president
00:53:27.200
does or does not do so here's the thing bill i i i think he keeps focusing on epstein it's not that
00:53:34.880
big of a deal it's not about epstein it's about justice it's about can we trust the people correct
00:53:42.140
it's it's all about credibility and justice um and i he's not seeing that and i don't know how he's
00:53:48.580
missing that because i agree with you look i don't i don't know so busy on so many other things that
00:53:54.240
that's right you know this is not at the top of his priority list but he did campaign on it
00:53:59.520
right and i don't know if there's anybody inside the white house uh who are gonna you know he looks
00:54:06.700
to be annoyed when this subject comes up oh i know here's the what works you know people have to
00:54:13.520
understand a guy like donald trump runs it all if he's annoyed nobody's going to want to annoy him
00:54:19.760
more okay that's just how it works but the overarch is because epstein got favorable treatment
00:54:27.800
by the feds in the first go around in florida that there's a deep suspicion about this case
00:54:35.400
but if you break it down if the biden administration had any dirt on any republican associated with
00:54:43.420
epstein it would have been out and vice versa if the republicans any dirt on any democrats now
00:54:51.240
we know that former president clinton was involved with epstein to some extent
00:54:57.480
i don't know whether that's a factor okay i don't know but you're right for once you're right
00:55:06.820
it's about credibility it's about the american people trusting that we do have equal justice for all
00:55:16.520
so what do you what do you make of now the russiagate thing coming out today or yesterday the
00:55:25.140
fisa court uh the fact that they're now saying hey you know we need to hold brennan accountable
00:55:31.500
we're like five or six ways away days away uh weeks away from him uh you know slipping past the
00:55:39.100
uh the statute of limitations um i mean all these things are out today there's that there is also
00:55:47.740
uh let's see here the secret service i think this happened a year ago but it's being reported
00:55:54.180
as if it's new secret service suspends six agents assigned to protect trump during the butler
00:55:59.780
assassination attempt i mean all these things are coming out like look we're busy on all these things
00:56:04.600
and i do believe they're busy on these things but it it's just it's it's it's like the keystone
00:56:10.880
cops are in charge of the pr on this it's bad well there's a lot of politics involved with both of
00:56:16.200
those cases number one in order to uh get comey and brennan to be indicted by a grand jury federal
00:56:25.280
grand jury and that's the only passage you'd have to have a whistleblower saying yeah these guys abuse
00:56:32.560
their power i work for them and they absolutely wanted to get trump and they knew the russia dossier
00:56:40.760
was phony and they did it anyway if you have that justice department then you can get those guys
00:56:47.280
if you don't have it they will not even be indicted by a grand jury so how is it we do not have that
00:56:56.060
justice department yeah how do we not have that justice department well look i don't know whether
00:57:02.280
they have a whistleblower or not okay and i if they have a whistleblower i want that case to go
00:57:10.080
forward i want those two men indicted that's they you can't do that at that level as far as the
00:57:16.260
secret service is concerned monumental screw up everybody knows it they fired the moron who was in
00:57:22.460
charge of it that woman i was just embarrassed listening to her try to explain anything you didn't
00:57:27.380
know what the deuce was going on but this was across the board in the biden administration
00:57:32.560
you know the assassination attempt was a year ago sunday this upcoming sunday and i uh it is just
00:57:41.500
another example of how the biden administration was the second worst administration in the history of
00:57:49.900
this country people have no idea how bad it was every single agency was chaotic nothing worked
00:57:58.340
and that and this is just part of that and i'm we'll have a slew of stuff on sunday nothing really
00:58:05.440
meaningful i mean they you know suspended the secret service agents as they should have they fired the
00:58:11.380
director as they should have the guy was a nut um i don't know if there's anything more to that i doubt
00:58:17.100
it uh i'm more interested in the guy in the bushes because we don't know anything about him that you
00:58:22.340
know they got before him i'd like to know a little bit about him but again the federal government
00:58:26.740
no it doesn't really matter who's president they never want to tell us stuff back never it's always
00:58:33.360
you gotta pull it out of them you know it's almost like russia something come on right let me let me
00:58:40.600
ask you let me take you back again to the epstein thing i noticed yesterday there were these people
00:58:47.180
who are who are on the left who are taking tweets of mine that say look these things don't make sense
00:58:53.740
uh on the epstein thing and they just have to be answered and not anti-trump at all um and yet the
00:59:00.440
anti-trump people were retweeting that and they're trying to they're trying to get the the right to fight
00:59:09.980
against itself again and split people away from donald trump where i don't think this epstein thing
00:59:16.460
is is is splitting people from donald trump at least at this point and i you know i my wife stopped
00:59:24.820
me from uh answering some of those tweets uh yesterday because it's never good when you uh when
00:59:31.480
you tweet uh in anger which i did um but uh or was going to um what do you think about how this is being
00:59:38.900
used against the right to try to separate us even more every everything is political everybody knows
00:59:46.920
that now um but the maggot people from the mail i get and i get a voluminous amount of mail uh they're
00:59:55.180
not happy now oh i agree they're gonna i'm not happy are they gonna throw president trump under the
01:00:02.700
cliche ridden bus no no because the you know to them the greater good is being served by a fair tax
01:00:11.140
bill uh trying to cut waste um dealing with iran effectively and hopefully dealing with putin that's
01:00:18.500
another thing that that's on um trump's plate he's got to deal with putin now has to and that's going
01:00:26.260
to be the next big story how's he going to deal so they're in yeah they're in lavrov and and rubio
01:00:31.840
are in indonesia as we speak uh and i assume that uh rubio is delivering a message like this is it
01:00:41.540
you either stop or we're going to just absolutely crush you economically which the united states can do
01:00:48.120
by saying no bank does business with moscow and if you do business no matter what bank you are
01:00:55.900
we're going to put you out of business okay i've only got a couple of seconds but don't didn't
01:01:01.580
but didn't we already do that under biden no we didn't do the bank we did the sanctions
01:01:06.200
and the sanctions they can always get around because china's going to buy as much oil from
01:01:10.240
russia as possible but you you stop the banks from doing all business with moscow
01:01:16.040
who's going to have that what the swift thing was all about wasn't that's what we when we kicked
01:01:21.880
him off of swift wasn't that what that was all about no because he can still do in huge business
01:01:27.660
uh with with countries buying his oil and and they got to pay putin and russia for the oil and that
01:01:35.380
has to go through the banking system if you stop the banking system he can't get paid
01:01:41.380
it's amazing i would i'm glad i'm not the president right now i think he has made some very brave
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i just miss him so much man he was just he was just so great just so great uh all right uh let's
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let's go to south america there's a couple of stories one is on uh our trade with donald trump
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uh looks like donald trump has just put a 50 percent tariff on uh brazil because of what
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they're doing to bolsonaro and also what they did to freedom of speech and uh elon musk etc etc
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um and i think that's a really good thing um they're brazil is way out of control when it
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comes to freedom of speech they're becoming a very very dare he say it a hitlerian uh sort of uh
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country i've got some questions about that policy so yeah i could maybe i mean is that how
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because i agree with you i don't like the way that they handle their country but is that like that
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is that what trade policy is for like does he have the power to even do that let's not go there
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you forced me to say absolutely not okay i'm sure i understand that it's supposed to be a national
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defense he has like a carve out for a short-term tariff yeah for national defense i don't know
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like bolsonaro being persecuted i would i don't want him to be persecuted i don't either but i think
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what's more important on on this particular case is what they were doing to freedom of speech here in
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america well i look they're doing to elon musk yeah okay elon well they're doing it to him in
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brazil right yeah yeah yeah not affecting american citizen and american business yeah there's a line
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there it's a squiggly line to get to get to that uh use of that power but i will uh instead move to
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another country yeah argentina yeah i love this story this is a great story javier mille now if you
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remember he came into power he said i'm going to do all these cuts i'm going to you know he's just
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kind of talked about as a libertarian and there's certainly many similarities i don't think he's doing
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libertarian stuff though well i think he is but he's not it's he's not all the way there yeah he's
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not full-blown like i'm libertarian we're getting rid of everything yeah he said that in the campaign
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he hasn't been able to implement all of that stuff but he's implemented a good amount of it yeah yeah
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yeah um he's in the right direction yes oh he's squarely in the common sense zone yes and he
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that was not what we were we were told when he was put into office and elected that this is going to
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be a catastrophe of course they said he would inflect further economic devastation uh social
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chaos would come a group of over a hundred leading economists uh warned signature uh let's see uh they
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said uh it would be um a radical departure from traditional economic thinking good um they said
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again no no kidding and they went through all the things that this is going to ruin everybody's life
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right so what has happened so far kind of interesting the outcome here argentina's economy
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now growing at 7.7 percent according to the latest year over year data
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7.7 percent do you know what america would look like at a annual growth rate of 7 percent i don't think
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that's happened since maybe the 1950s and late 40s an economy our size would probably be tougher to get
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to 7.7 percent but still it would be how about four or five would be nice i mean five would be crazy
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um they are uh and i bet you you could in today's world i bet united states could do seven percent
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that's possible depending on i mean i mean if you really if you said if you got serious about you got
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serious about all the things he's serious about we're cutting the spending we're cutting all of it
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we're just we're cutting all of the red tape everything it's just gone common sense you do
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the right thing we're going to stay out of your way and the economy would explode absolutely explode
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it's it's really fascinating um and if you throw in hopefully the united states leading the world in
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something like ai those numbers might become more rational pretty quickly honestly um but did you see
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the thing you didn't watch all of it so the grok thing with elon musk he did a grok has this business
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section where you can you can say hey this is the business i'm in yada yada yada and uh so the people
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that were running that said let's try vending machines how how can we how can we tweak i was sorry
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i was so sleepy last night i kept waking up and coming back to sleep watching it um but they were
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like how can we get the vending machine business to turbo and the line was almost straight up i mean
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it's a vending machine business it can look at any business that you're in right now and say what can
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i do to turbo this and it will lay out a plan for you and they ran it through several scenarios and it
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was like the vending machine business became like you know the golden goose
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it's crazy crazy crazy um so malay uh eliminated rent controls in buenos aires oh well there's
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trouble now nobody can afford anything no one can afford rent like this is the right now this debate
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is happening in new york city in our largest city in the financial center of the world we are in a
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debate of as to whether we could have rent control in the city and the argument is it's too expensive
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the prices are too high and that was the same argument in argentina well they uh did eliminate
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rent controls and the apartment market was flooded with new properties the average real price though
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went up right no it actually went down he turned a budget deficit into a surplus into in his first full
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year in office he eliminated half of the country's cabinet departments and like that's what you're talking
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about like did he go all the way to his full libertarian vision i he probably wants 80 or 90
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percent of them gone and he only did half but that's much more significant than like oh yeah what we see
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when we're told we're doing hateful conservative bills we just had a giant one pass what did it do
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it kept the tax rates at the same level that they currently were that was our big crazy idea i know and
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then it reduced the spending over 10 years of the future increases right of certain parts of medicaid
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right and ask people hey if you're completely uh able-bodied and within a normal working range age and
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also don't have small children can you work part-time whoa i mean uh crazy um malay took office
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in december 2023 inflation was 25 percent wow per month oh my god can you imagine being in that
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scenario this is how this guy got elected normally countries are like i don't want to even try those
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crazy things but when you're at 25 a month you're going to try anything almost well may it went it was
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1.5 per month so he's gone from 25 to 1.5 in that period um there was and this was very widely
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covered a spike in the poverty rate at the very beginning of this of course um policy and that
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was shifting gears this is going to be a disaster right um it has been falling since the second half
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of last year is now lower than when malay took office as president um the i mean the everything
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about this um you know you look at the the rates uh you know of uh of inflation uh the uh employment
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rates are are starting to correct again took a bump at the beginning and went the other direction but
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everything's turning around um this has been an incredible success and it should like maybe give
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a little more confidence to americans and other countries around the world to say hey maybe we
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should try some of these market-based policies i know they got they kind of fell out of favor there
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for a minute i'm not exactly sure why um and even on the right because nobody questions on them all
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because nobody does anything dramatic enough to really make dramatic changes you know that was one of my
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big like big issues with the bbb if you will it's like there was nothing aspirational in it correct
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there was a lot of good in it yes but most of the good was reversing previous bad correct by joe biden
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for example there was nothing in there was like wow we're going to the moon and we're putting we're
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putting a man back on earth within 10 years there was nothing like we are going to even trump's first
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tax bill i think you can argue the business tax rates were sort of like that like they were like
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whoa we're cutting it to what like that that was a big change right like that was an aspirational
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policy even though maybe it's not as far as i would have gone um but like this one was really
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just hey let's keep the status quo on these lower rates and you know we'll reverse a lot of the crap
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that biden was doing which is great and we needed to be done so a lot of that was good uh but you know
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i feel like we need we need some of this in our lives we need a little bit of this aspirational stuff
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on the right when it comes to free markets again and i think that some of that's been lost
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i don't see that person on the horizon though here in america do you i don't i don't think jd vance is
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that person no you know he's certainly not a you know market ideal right and and donald trump is
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very good on the economy but he's not a big cutter he's let's grow the economy he's not a big he's not
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a big cutter we need somebody like javier malay that will just come in and say yeah i don't care
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we're just cutting it yeah now i don't know if we're ever going to get there until we're
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unfortunately in the 25 per month inflation we've talked about stuff this country most likely would
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go right towards you know communism yes probably you know at least argentina has already dealt with
01:17:53.320
that and they know what that brings and that's a big big issue like usually when you have these
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stressful moments within an economy a lot of times governments step in and say well you need to
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give us more power and a lot of countries fall for that you'd think that the traditions here in the
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united states would it would prevent that here but no you know maybe not and you're right argentina
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did they needed to fall for it and completely fail falling for it to attempt this now they've
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attempted it and things are much much better for the people what's his popularity at do you know
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yeah actually i have a chart on that i'm doing i'm going to cover this in more depth on studios
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america tonight if you're interested in this particular topic but his his approval rating really
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is just basically held flat which is kind of fascinating he's he's around you know 45 percent like
01:18:36.560
any normal you know president he hasn't really had a big i mean his disapprovals come down a little
01:18:42.300
bit how is that possible i know i mean the results have been fantastic so far i mean even i would say
01:18:48.760
exceeding my expectations i was a little worried about the malay thing because it was being promoted
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as this you know libertarian utopia and if it didn't work there would be a message sent the opposite
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way you know if he messed it up somehow or whatever you know would people ever try it again
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press saying about him to keep his approval rating that low with an economy like that and it's not
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even i wouldn't say it's low it's been flat but but that is still it should be up should be way up
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he should be looking at 65 70 approval ratings right now and we've seen some of that like with
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bukele and uh he's not doing the same types of policies but he's got other policies that have
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really changed the society and he's seen massive uh increase in his popularity in el salvador we're not
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seeing that so far with malay uh you know you think that if this lasts and it feels like for a long
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basically have to say that to everything they ask you is that accurate yeah yeah but i
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go to jail for that not questions on were anybody asking you to lie no no no no i mean this just
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share i'm not going to answer that question doctor doctor patient uh privilege no what was he sick
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longer i'm not answering that question were you ever asked to lie okay i'm going to answer that
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He is best-selling international investigative author, 300 award-winning editions, 20 different languages in 190 countries,
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as well as scores as newspaper and magazine articles from the leading publications in the United States, Israel, and in Europe.
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He has hosted his weekly issues-oriented and history-based podcast, the Enwood Black show now for, I don't know,
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since I think he started right around the time COVID happened, I think.
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And he's written some of my favorite books, including The Far Hood, which is a must-read,
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and IBM and the Holocaust, which is a must-read as well,
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especially since IBM now is making some of the leading AI for doctors.
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So the first thing that went through my mind when I saw this come out, I thought,
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okay, how could you possibly write a book about the bombing of Israel, about the bombing of Iran, this quickly?
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Well, first of all, Glenn, I always knew that Israel would attack Iran and that America would help out.
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I've been tracking the progress of the Iranian nuclear enterprise day by day for about 20 years.
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I actually wrote most of the text about two years ago when I thought the attack was imminent,
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and I've been waiting for the last chapter to be written.
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And when finally Operation Rising Lion and Operation Midnight Hammer put an end to Iran's nuclear ambitions,
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which, by the way, would have doomed humanity to mushroom clouds.
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And when finally that happened, I went to work.
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I worked with a great team, my publishers, and my channels.
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I'm sure you know what the channel challenge is.
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And the book has just released in 190 countries in 12 different editions, audio, electronic, paperback, and hardback.
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You know, I know, because I know your research is so solid, and I know how thorough you are,
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you go in in the book and you talk about this warhead, and something that most people don't know,
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we have been training for this exact operation for about 15 years.
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A model of this particular facility to try this bomb out years ago to see exactly how far it could penetrate.
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I was actually the first one some years ago to reveal the existence in an article that I wrote of the massive ordnance penetrator.
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And I revealed this 30,000-pound, never-before-tried bomb, which was basically dependent upon an incredibly hard shell
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coming down at an incredibly fast rate of speed, so it would penetrate and then wait until it penetrated hundreds of feet below the earth
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and then finally detonate this extraordinary explosive.
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And there was one and then basically two guys in the Department of the Defense who were in on the development of the MOP.
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And for 15 years, approximately, they studied every satellite image of the Fordo facility that you've made reference to,
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They studied every night, the changes, the ground, the weather.
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And they finally went down in the ventilation shaft.
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And then the force of the overpressure and the fire just destroyed everything.
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Yeah, the ventilation shaft, I mean, you know, that's right out of the movie,
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And I was told this bomb was so accurate and had many fail-safes.
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If you were jammed, if the GPS was jammed or whatever, it could still operate.
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It could hit the center of a Coke can if that was the target.
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Well, that's exactly the first test was actually against a red flag that was no bigger than a T-shirt.
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There's only three airplanes that can carry this.
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And, of course, now the new B-41, which is the Raider.
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There were many, many options that Israel had, some of which I can't reveal.
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There were many secret weapons that Israel had, which were extraordinary, which have not been used.
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And I think, Glenn, this will not be the last kinetic action that we see in Iran, because they have made it clear they're going to continue to find a way to reconstitute their program.
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And so, yes, the program was obliterated, but it can be unobliterated by an apocalyptic Shia regime that believes it is destined to bring in the apocalypse and paradise by exterminating the Jews of Israel.
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And, of course, if one of these did get through, and they were only two weeks away, and my book, Israel Strikes Iran, makes this very clear.
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If one of these would have gotten through, Israel strikes capability by air, by land, and by sea.
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How do we know it was obliterated and not just set back a few months?
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How do we know that it was obliterated and nothing was moved in the last minute?
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Well, a lot of people have seen, there are 400 kilograms, about 881 pounds of highly enriched 60% uranium.
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The centrifuges that are involved in enriching those molecules, basically they work like a washer-dryer, they spin off the isotopes.
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The manufacturing location that made those IR6 centrifuges has been destroyed.
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In addition, these systems are so difficult and so sensitive, if you just push one, you'll throw it off, you'll throw it off-kilter.
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And they have to be serviced on a regular basis, calibrated and serviced.
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It was obliterated, and if you have a theocratic regime that is intent on subjecting its own population to devastating sanctions for years and becoming a rogue theocracy, they can start it up again.
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But you can track these molecules, you can track them with drones, you can track them with trucks.
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They don't need to hide these systems underground, and they're already studying a location at Pickaxe Mountain.
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They can put them in barns, and they can put them in oil tankers.
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So the only way to really know that we've stopped the Iranian nuclear ambition is regime change.
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Now, that was not done because the powers-to-be, both in Israel and Washington, did not want to decapitate a head of state.
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But it's going to be up to the people of Iran to make that happen.
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They're afraid to, their phones are being seized, so they're afraid to leave home with their phone, and they're clamping down.
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I think that we're going to see more kinetic action in the coming days.
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You can mark my words, because the Iranian regime doesn't know how to say no.
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Well, you think this will be American action or Israeli action?
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Once again, it'll be Israeli action, but there may be an American assist.
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Just remember, when you say Israeli action, Israel is using millions of dollars' worth of American weaponry.
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They are making many of their own, but we are providing them.
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But Biden didn't, and Biden didn't, and Biden blackmailed Israel from the moment of October 7th, and actually held up the minesweepers, the 2,000-pound bombs, and the helicopters that Israel needed.
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You are the guy who, you were on our show, I don't know, a few years ago, and you talked to me about, I think it was the six or seven stages to, you know, a holocaust.
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And we were traveling down that road pretty quickly.
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We still had some significant things we had to pass.
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But as I watch what's happening with Islamism over in Europe, and I see what's coming over here in America, what's on our own streets, I am really concerned about Islam.
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Islam, and I should make sure I'm saying it right, Islamists, the people that want Sharia law, which seem to be in massive numbers now, at least in Europe.
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It's Islamism, because remember, there are more Indians, excuse me, there are more Muslims in India, which is very friendly to Israel, and of course to Gulf.
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It's not the United States that are very friendly with Israel, but it's the Islamists.
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And these are the people you are referring to, the radicals.
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And yes, these are the people who, I'm afraid, you're terribly right, have overtaken the capitals of Europe.
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And more than that, they've overtaken the English-speaking world outside of the United States.
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I refer to Australia, to Great Britain, to South Africa.
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And I believe that what you fear will break out closest to home, first in Canada, before it actually filters into our country as well.
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But I can tell you, it's coming into our country, and we have not had a serious conversation about what we should do.
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He is the author of IBM and the Holocaust, and Farood, which you really need to read.
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And the new one, Israel Strikes Iran, the backstory behind Israel's Operation Rising Lion.
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Edwin, as always, my friend, good to talk to you.
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Interesting, too, Glenn, in the middle of all of this, there's some chaos in the world,
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there's some economic uncertainties, all of the spending going on, all of this.
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And there's been a lot of pro-Bitcoin stuff happening in the world, and I'm surprised it's
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You know, there was a site early on in the Bitcoin days.
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It was called, I think, the Bitcoin Faucet or something.
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And what you had to do to work with the site was you would put your email address in there,
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and then they would send you like five Bitcoin.
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It was like someone's idea, like, hey, this would be interesting to get people started on this.
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And now those would be worth over half a million dollars, which would be nice.
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And it's like one of those sites that's like one of those early internet sites that just text and look at a bad graphic.
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And every once in a while, someone posts it, and it's just like, oh, my gosh.
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Yeah, it was five Bitcoins to every visitor who passed a CAPTCHA.
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Yeah, we were talking about Bitcoin in 2010, you weasel.
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What else are you keeping from the American peoples, Stu?
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I didn't know anything about the coming COVID epidemic or pandemic.
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I didn't know anything about this Iran attack we were just talking about.
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I should be able to predict these things, I suppose.
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We've got a lot more to cover in a very short period of time.
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He's passionate about as well that is in the news.
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Not every act of heroism makes the evening news.
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There are mothers in Israel right now walking miles to find food for their children.
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There's elderly men helping neighbors rebuild shelters that were flattened by a rocket.
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Volunteers now distributing food out of the back of a van in neighborhoods that still don't have power.
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These are real people getting through the unthinkable one day at a time.
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The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is there offering hope.
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Not in the form of speeches or politics, but through tangible help.
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Support for Holocaust survivors who have now lived through yet another war.
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It's easy to feel helpless when the world is on fire.
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But the fellowship is a reminder that your support, yes yours, can be a reason somebody makes it to tomorrow.
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Now is your time to stand with Israel's innocent and most vulnerable.
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Chief researcher for the programs is, what's his name?
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And he was just saying that there's a new ruling coming out.
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Yeah, this isn't just, I don't really know what to say on this because it's a meme at this point, how, you know, the federal courts are now usurping basically all powers of the state at will.
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But I thought that they couldn't do national injunctions in this way anymore.
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Only the Supreme Court said they can't do that.
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So now another federal judge, breaking news, has just blocked Trump's birthright citizenship ban again, which this was what the case was about.
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This was what caused the massive fight and really exposed Jackson's buffoonery.
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Supreme Court justice in Jackson Brown is probably one of my favorite Supreme Court justices.
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She just, she's just a lyricist like nobody else.
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And even, you know, even Sotomayor is coming out and going like, you obviously don't know how the law works.
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There are times where events occur in your life that shake your understanding of everything that's around you.
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And the fact that Sonia Sotomayor might not be the dumbest Supreme Court justice is hard to believe.
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I mean, it's really been one of the central things I foundationally have believed for years.
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That Sotomayor is the dumbest Supreme Court justice ever.
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And Ketanji Brown, she's like, Sotomayor is slapping down Ketanji Brown Jackson.
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For a Supreme Court justice to say that, for the two dumbest Supreme Court justices ever to get into a slapdown on you're too stupid to be a Supreme Court justice is remarkable.
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I mean, I don't know if you saw, do I have these, some of the comments from Jackson, Jackson Brown.
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She says, yeah, I agree with Justice Jackson that the president cannot restructure federal agencies in a manner inconsistent with congressional mandates.
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Here, however, the relevant executive order directs agencies to plan reorganizations and reductions in force consistent with applicable law.
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The plans themselves are not before this court.
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And, like, you know, you see what she's been saying, you know, and it makes sense when you kind of think of, like, how could she miss something like this?
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In fact, she says she's just, she thinks that her job is to express her feelings.
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Jackson turned to the writing of SCOTUS Opinion, saying that she feels she's, quote, been privileged to use the writings that she does, the work that she does, to explain her views about the way the government does and should work, the way the court does and should work.
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It's through this process, the Biden appointee noted, that she's able to tell the American people how she feels about any given case and its outcome.
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I think the nice part about being on the court is that you have the opportunity, whether you're in the majority or the dissent, to express your opinions.
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And I just feel that I have a wonderful opportunity to tell people, in my opinions, how I feel about the issues.
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Your job is not to tell people how you feel about issues.
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Did you see the word count of all Supreme Court justices in their first eight cases?
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Jackson Brown, number one, 11,083 words in her first eight cases.
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Now, we're down to Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas.
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We've gone from 11,000 words to now 2,300 words.
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And look, even if you're going to talk a lot, I'm fine if you're saying things that are intelligent
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Your job is to judge what the law says, what the Constitution says, not what your feelings
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are about issues of the way the government should operate.
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You want to tell me your feelings on the new Superman movie?
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You want to tell me your feelings about how the Constitution works or shouldn't work or should work?
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I don't care about your feelings on anything else.
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By the way, we got to get into the Superman thing, but I just want to take this one step further.
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Well, I mean, it's going to immediately get an appeal by the Trump administration because
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all they have to do is go, wait a minute, the Supreme Court said this.
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Do you remember when there actually used to be institutions in this country where it was
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You know, like Supreme Court would issue something.
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Remember the movies back in the day were like, sir, do you really want to risk a congressional
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And here's what we were talking earlier about Grok for Grok for just came out last night.
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You should watch the the most awkward press conference of all time.
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As Stu rightfully pointed out, Elon Musk, for the very first time, was the least awkward
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He was with like four other guys and all of them more awkward than he was.
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And he was trying to jump in like, OK, nerds, let me explain.
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But what they have built at Grok is, in his own words, twice terrifying.
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It is we are on the verge of AGI, artificial general intelligence.
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That's up from 8 percent, I think, last year, a year and a half from now.
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And that's not a that's that's that that line goes to a point straight up.
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And we he believes we are by Christmas going to see Grok inventing pharmaceuticals, alloys,
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chemical compounds that we don't even understand at this point.
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And then Stu brought something up as we're talking about society not caring about anything.
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But at least when you become an adult and you realize how police are treated.
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I can't imagine a lot of people want to do that.
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And as society becomes more and more unruly, what happens?
01:59:54.100
OK, well, you're not getting more and more police, which means society gets more and more
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He said, soon, was that his or like now, as soon as as soon as Optimus comes out, his
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Yeah, he was basically saying what we need to what needs to come next is Grok essentially
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So it's not just a bunch of text on your screen, right?
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It's doing things in your life in the real world.
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And he said the way that happens is with Optimus, his his robot.
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Uh, like you, you have Grok essentially, you're asking a task to Grok and Grok is inside this
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robot and it knows how to do these things, where to move.
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Uh, you know, if you're asking a question about, you know, it's hard to know exactly
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But if you're asking a question about how to fix something, right?
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You know, I did this with one of the AI things the other day of like, I took a picture of
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this, you know, internal thing on a gate that I have and I had to like, I didn't know how
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So it, I put it into the system and it's like, Hey, do this, do this, do this, do this.
02:01:00.020
This would actually, you do the same thing except Grok goes out there, opens up the
02:01:03.460
panel, takes the photo, uh, asks it how to fix it, fix it.
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It tells itself how to fix it and then puts the antenna where it's supposed to be and
02:01:13.700
Like in theory, this could be the future and where this all goes.
02:01:17.380
I mean, this is, I mean, it's exciting too, because finally I'll have somebody that
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And then optimist comes in and he just grabs the remote and turns it on the right way.
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There is a shot though, like that this could apply to something like police work.
02:01:41.520
Uh, that's what, that's what we were talking about earlier.
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Think about how badly things are going out of control.
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Think now, right now, what you have heard from just this week, the left, uh, wanting
02:01:56.240
Uh, you have, uh, Democrat, uh, elected officials saying they're now afraid of their own constituents
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Hakeem Jeffries, they're going to, they're actually going to, uh, primary him because he's
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Um, you look at what's happening on the streets with Hamas and everything else.
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They start putting, um, they start, you know, doing riots in the streets and everything else.
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Uh, I warn you, optimist is coming and people will beg for it.
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Uh, I can't get a police officer to do anything.
02:02:46.660
I mean, you, you are, we are so close to a dystopian world.
02:02:53.460
I mean, look, people already obviously love the idea of using robots for disarming a bomb,
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for example, dangerous work that you don't want to risk a life doing.
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Well, I mean, the same argument is going to be made for.
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Or sentient beings are different than the robot dog that goes out for the bomb.
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Is it a difference that, that makes the American people believe it's dystopian?
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I think the initial reaction would be that way.
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Yeah, it certainly feels like it ends that way.
02:03:35.300
Well, seeing that, seeing that Elon Musk himself while unveiling it yesterday,
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And he's like, frankly, we don't know how that even is happening.
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And then just sits there for a second, you know?
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It's like Taco Bell is not like, yeah, we've got the new grilled cheese chalupa.
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I mean, it, it, it tastes great, but it's, it's terrifying me.
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Frankly, I have no idea what the effects are going to be on this country.
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Quite frankly, it's terrifying because we don't know how it works.
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monitoring, instant alerts for suspicious activity and legal coverage to up to a million
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If the worst happens, AI technology is changing the world.
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Don't let it change the name on your home's title.
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Claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament.
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She was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind her car on her
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The insurer with the largest network of auto service centers in the country.
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Everything was taken care of under one roof and she was on her way in a rental car in
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I made it to my tournament and lost in the first round, but you got there on time.
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Intact insurance, your auto service ace certain conditions apply.
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I didn't even get to my favorite story of the entire day.
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I live in Texas and this poll has to be my favorite development, my favorite story of
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It is for the 2026 Texas Senate Democratic primary.
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And this is what the poll shows in fourth place in the primary, Joaquin Castro.
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Ugh, be a total bore if the candidate was Joaquin Castro.
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20%, Colin Allred, the guy who ran last time against Ted Cruz.
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Total bore fest, but 15 points ahead in the lead.