The Glenn Beck Program - 'Hyping Up the Hysteria'

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00:00:08.120 Back Ray and Stu Bergeer for Glenn. Big day because Donald Trump yesterday interviewed some of the potential nominees for the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:00:18.520 And Stu, you actually have a breakdown of some of these guys?

00:00:22.120 Yeah, well, I mean.

00:00:22.860 Because, I mean, I'm not all that familiar with their judicial records.

00:00:29.040 It's not like I follow their court actions closely during the regular court season.

00:00:33.900 What an admission.

00:00:37.000 I know, that sounds really ignorant, doesn't it?

00:00:40.900 It's one of those things I had a year, a couple years ago, where I became obsessed with Philadelphia Eagles draft picks.

00:00:46.460 And I kept just, like, scouting all of them.

00:00:48.580 And everyone that would be mentioned as a potential draft pick, I would go through and learn their history and watch their, you know, highlight films from college.

00:00:55.940 And then the draft came and they didn't pick any of them.

00:00:59.040 I was like, that was a complete waste of time.

00:01:01.740 Why did I do that?

00:01:03.880 Yeah.

00:01:04.200 I used to be the same way with the court.

00:01:06.260 With the court system.

00:01:06.740 Yeah, that's why.

00:01:07.760 Every judge, I would watch his rulings.

00:01:10.540 I would jot them down.

00:01:11.840 I would keep their stats.

00:01:13.000 But I haven't done it in about three or four years.

00:01:16.000 So, I'm a little lost on where they are currently.

00:01:21.220 So, he interviewed five.

00:01:26.020 Brett Kavanaugh.

00:01:27.340 Amy Coney Barrett.

00:01:28.920 Okay.

00:01:29.360 Amul Tappar.

00:01:31.700 I can't.

00:01:32.280 I just did the stupid.

00:01:33.640 Amul Tappar.

00:01:34.200 Amul, thank you.

00:01:34.900 Amul Tappar.

00:01:35.400 There's a rhythm to that one.

00:01:36.780 Amul Tappar.

00:01:37.980 Say it again.

00:01:38.780 Amul Tappar.

00:01:39.560 Yeah.

00:01:39.940 I mean, you follow these guys.

00:01:41.020 Yeah, right.

00:01:41.820 It's been a while, but yes.

00:01:42.980 And Raymond Kethledge are the four that he.

00:01:45.460 Now, I understand.

00:01:45.880 I keep hearing that Kavanaugh is the least desirable of all of these guys.

00:01:50.080 Yeah, well.

00:01:51.080 Or women.

00:01:51.840 I'm nervous about it.

00:01:52.520 So, if you think about this list, it's gone through three iterations.

00:01:55.920 It was first, I think, 10.

00:01:57.460 Then it went up to 21.

00:01:58.960 And then it went to 25.

00:02:01.500 So, it's grown over time.

00:02:05.100 And Kavanaugh was put in this last group.

00:02:10.140 This last group of five.

00:02:11.860 Now, if you go back to the way that they picked Gorsuch, they added 10 to the list.

00:02:16.500 And Gorsuch was in there.

00:02:18.600 Reportedly, they basically added the 10 names so they could add Gorsuch.

00:02:21.980 And they wouldn't draw attention to the, we added one more name we came up with.

00:02:25.460 You know, it would be kind of obvious.

00:02:27.140 So, they added kind of a slew of solid choices.

00:02:29.980 And they were targeting Gorsuch at that time as one of the favorites.

00:02:34.360 So, Kavanaugh and Barrett were both added in this last group.

00:02:40.860 Kavanaugh is the one we're kind of worried about here.

00:02:43.460 Wasn't he, was he the one that was the runner-up to Gorsuch last time?

00:02:46.940 No, that's Thomas Hardeman.

00:02:48.080 And Hardeman is also on the short list here.

00:02:50.580 So, those are the two that I'm worried about right now.

00:02:53.000 Hardeman and Kavanaugh.

00:02:54.440 Now, both of them check all the boxes.

00:02:56.960 It's not like he's picking some guy off the streets.

00:02:59.560 These are, they've gone through the Federalist Society's screening.

00:03:03.260 So, this is, I don't think you're talking at all to just put this off the table, you know,

00:03:08.780 between a suitor where you make a mistake and it becomes one of the most liberal justices there.

00:03:15.080 I don't think you're talking, the scale we're discussing here is not Ginsburg to Clarence Thomas.

00:03:20.400 The scale we're talking is Kennedy to Clarence Thomas.

00:03:24.180 Right?

00:03:24.620 Right?

00:03:25.260 There's no reason to get another Kennedy here.

00:03:27.400 There's no reason to get another Roberts here.

00:03:29.180 Or Sandra Day O'Connor.

00:03:29.800 Sandra Day O'Connor is another great example.

00:03:31.820 You don't need that here.

00:03:33.080 Right.

00:03:33.480 You don't need it.

00:03:34.360 You don't need to please the left with his pick.

00:03:36.500 Not at all.

00:03:37.180 At all.

00:03:37.680 You shouldn't even consider it.

00:03:38.660 There should be zero risk.

00:03:40.600 Yep.

00:03:40.820 So, the issue here is not whether Kavanaugh is, he's not terrible.

00:03:44.400 He's not Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

00:03:46.020 He's not Suter.

00:03:46.740 But, I'm worried he is, you know, Roberts.

00:03:50.800 Do we have any idea where he stands on Roe v. Wade?

00:03:53.040 We don't know.

00:03:54.620 We do know where he stands on Obamacare and the individual mandate.

00:03:59.360 Which is really, I think, the thing that's throwing up red flags for everybody.

00:04:03.280 He wrote a decision or an opinion on Obamacare as it was making its way up the court system to get to the Supreme Court.

00:04:13.580 So, this is before Roberts rules on it.

00:04:15.560 And he, in his opinion, basically outlines a path to approve of Obamacare.

00:04:24.160 Approve of the individual mandate.

00:04:25.780 Now, his justification for that was largely judicial restraint.

00:04:29.460 I think the legislature should make these decisions and not us.

00:04:34.040 The problem with that is, you know, when it's unconstitutional, you don't need restraint to stick with the Constitution.

00:04:39.840 I want someone who has very little restraint to honor the Constitution.

00:04:43.800 Right.

00:04:44.200 You don't need restraint in that area.

00:04:45.800 You need someone who is going to not try to make new laws, like, for example, Roberts did, to justify Obamacare.

00:04:53.980 He rewrote the law.

00:04:55.340 As Scalia says, it's now SCOTUS care because we basically just rewrote it.

00:04:59.200 And that is what was making a lot of people nervous here with Kavanaugh.

00:05:06.920 He is a guy who, in this decision, we can go through this more in depth.

00:05:11.140 I don't know how boring we want to get today.

00:05:12.920 But the bottom line is...

00:05:14.980 Oh, we want to be really boring.

00:05:16.480 Really boring?

00:05:16.920 Yeah.

00:05:17.760 Oh, let's read the whole decision then.

00:05:19.680 Hold on.

00:05:22.440 Now, if you go through the breakdown of it, you know, that is largely his reasoning.

00:05:27.540 His judicial restraint, which is something that was a priority of George W. Bush when picking justices.

00:05:34.320 So, again, that got you Roberts.

00:05:36.500 And the issue with Roberts is he doesn't want to make these big rulings come from the court because he doesn't want to be the one...

00:05:43.360 He wants to keep the court's reputation intact.

00:05:48.120 And I don't...

00:05:48.540 Look, the court's reputation is not your job.

00:05:51.540 Your job is the Constitution.

00:05:53.240 Okay?

00:05:53.740 Look at...

00:05:54.320 Can you force people to buy things they don't want?

00:05:56.540 No.

00:05:57.000 No.

00:05:57.540 It's not available as a government power and has never been utilized as a government power until we all of a sudden made it one when Roberts made that decision.

00:06:07.100 And that's the sort of thing I don't want.

00:06:08.880 To me, that's activism.

00:06:10.540 When you create a brand new thing that has literally never been utilized before, forcing people to buy insurance to be in good standing as a citizen,

00:06:20.220 and you rework the law to make it okay, twice, by the way, Roberts did this twice in two separate cases, the subsidies and the fee tax situation.

00:06:29.860 That's not what I want.

00:06:31.100 That's not what I want.

00:06:31.900 And there's no reason to get another Roberts here.

00:06:34.300 Because people keep saying, well, Jeffrey Toobin's on TV every day saying, oh, well, in 18 months, we're going to have absolutely no Roe versus Wade.

00:06:43.100 Women are going to have no rights.

00:06:45.540 Gays are not going to be able to go into any bakeries.

00:06:47.600 They will not be able to purchase baked goods at any time.

00:06:50.840 Like, there's no reason to believe that.

00:06:52.420 We don't know how Roberts is going to rule on Roe versus Wade.

00:06:54.780 There's no way you can have confidence in that.

00:06:56.380 By the way, we don't even know how Alito...

00:06:58.460 I mean, I have confidence in Alito.

00:07:00.240 I have confidence in Gorsuch on this issue, but we don't know how either one...

00:07:02.860 The only vote you know you have is Clarence Thomas at this point.

00:07:05.980 That's it.

00:07:06.820 Yeah.

00:07:07.260 So the fact that you're going to go four for four with Roberts, Gorsuch, and Alito, which I'm pretty confident in,

00:07:14.080 and then add on to that whoever this new justice is, if it's over 50%, I'll be surprised right now.

00:07:21.700 I don't think I would buy at one-to-one the odds of Roe versus Wade being overturned.

00:07:28.340 I mean, I would need three, four-to-one before I would say...

00:07:31.340 I'm nowhere near as confident as Jeffrey Toobin.

00:07:33.800 I wish I were.

00:07:34.540 And he's just fear-lumbering, though, right?

00:07:36.120 I mean, I don't think he believes it.

00:07:38.160 I don't know.

00:07:38.840 I think he's just trying to scare everyone if you need to oppose it.

00:07:41.420 I want to believe it, too.

00:07:42.140 I want it to happen more than anything.

00:07:42.920 It should happen.

00:07:43.560 It should happen.

00:07:44.460 Absolutely.

00:07:45.540 And, you know, we can go into that as well, because it's really...

00:07:48.740 Even a Roe versus Wade overturn is not as big a deal.

00:07:53.620 It's a big deal, but it's not the end-all be-all.

00:07:56.680 It doesn't end abortion, certainly in the world, but not even in the United States.

00:08:00.260 So, there's a lot there.

00:08:02.040 But, so that's one.

00:08:04.480 Kavanaugh, I'm nervous about Kavanaugh.

00:08:06.160 I'm also nervous about Hardeman.

00:08:07.680 Hardeman finished in second last time.

00:08:09.440 He was added as a favor to the list, reportedly, from Rick Santorum.

00:08:14.540 Stop doing favors for people.

00:08:16.220 Rick Santorum's pretty conservative.

00:08:17.340 Although, you know, he's a guy, you know, he's a different flavor of conservative, as we've seen with his minimum wage policies.

00:08:24.840 And, you know, certain, you know, he sees himself as sort of a blue-collar, you know, populist conservative, which is not my particular flavor.

00:08:32.760 He doesn't like, you know, he's been outspoken against libertarians in the past.

00:08:36.560 And on the court is where you really want libertarians, right?

00:08:39.160 Like, the court is the place for libertarians.

00:08:41.000 Even if you don't want them as your president or you don't want them as your senator, you want them in the court because they're going to look at the Constitution as written.

00:08:48.720 And that may not be Hardeman.

00:08:52.020 Hardeman is, there's a, you know, they try to do these things.

00:08:55.720 They're imperfect, I think.

00:08:56.880 But when it comes to whether they're liberal or conservative, they have these ratings.

00:09:00.400 And so, the court, as it stands right now, Sotomayor and Ginsburg, way on the left.

00:09:04.580 Breyer and Kagan, liberal, but not quite as liberal.

00:09:07.640 Then Kennedy, who they have rated on the scale as to the left of center.

00:09:12.080 Okay?

00:09:12.420 So, understand that that's, people are like, oh, they're replacing a conservative with another conservative.

00:09:17.220 I mean, moderate is really a fair description, probably, of Kennedy, but he's not really all that conservative.

00:09:23.000 He was good on certain things.

00:09:24.700 Then Roberts, then Alito, then Gorsuch, and then all the way to the right, Clarence Thomas.

00:09:31.040 What you want is another Clarence Thomas.

00:09:33.420 Of the ten justices they, or potential justices that they rated, the closest to Clarence Thomas is Mike Lee.

00:09:42.760 Most conservative out of that entire group.

00:09:44.780 The most liberal of the group that they rated was Thomas Hardeman.

00:09:49.960 Hardeman, in between Kennedy and Roberts, is where they have him rated ideologically.

00:09:54.740 And again, there's just no reason to risk something like that.

00:10:00.020 Hardeman might be okay, but there's no reason to risk him.

00:10:03.000 Again, you know, you have, Hardeman was added as a favor.

00:10:06.220 Now, Santorum is a good guy and a conservative guy.

00:10:10.720 He's not even in office.

00:10:11.480 But he's not even in office, but this was when Trump was looking for his endorsement during the campaign, and this is when he was added to the list.

00:10:18.720 But, okay, just because it's a favor or someone else, that's not necessarily bad.

00:10:23.080 It could be good, but that's also how he got Souter.

00:10:25.960 John Sununu, hey, I know this guy in New Hampshire.

00:10:28.340 He's fantastic.

00:10:29.160 You're going to love him.

00:10:29.820 And then we got the most liberal guy in the Supreme Court, almost.

00:10:33.300 So, that makes me nervous.

00:10:34.900 He's also friends with Trump's sister, serves with Trump's sister on the court, which, again, you could argue fairly, hey, he's got insight on who this person is.

00:10:45.220 You know, extra insight.

00:10:46.420 Maybe that's a good thing.

00:10:47.460 Makes me nervous when you have personal relationships having anything to do with stuff like this.

00:10:51.960 Because you make, that's how you make mistakes.

00:10:54.300 We've been burned many times before.

00:10:55.980 Yeah, really have.

00:10:57.840 And he also, you know, is on this list the furthest to the left.

00:11:02.620 So, I mean, to me, I don't want Hartman.

00:11:03.820 The problem was he made it, he was reportedly in second place to Gorsuch when they picked last time.

00:11:09.960 He interviewed, they said, even better than Gorsuch.

00:11:13.140 It was a great interview, very well prepared.

00:11:15.500 And he is on the short list again here.

00:11:17.500 He's listed in the story today in the top five.

00:11:21.860 He's already been interviewed by Trump.

00:11:24.120 Trump went through four others.

00:11:25.380 So, that's two of the top five, the two that I'm nervous about.

00:11:29.360 The other three are Amy Coney Barrett, who you'll remember her from, when she was going through her last advice and consent process,

00:11:40.140 she was attacked for her religion by, was it Dianne Feinstein?

00:11:45.500 Who was basically like, oh, yeah, the, the, the, what was the word she used?

00:11:51.620 The dogma.

00:11:52.720 Yeah.

00:11:52.980 The dogma is strong with you.

00:11:54.240 Lives loudly within you.

00:11:55.460 Yeah, like, wait, what?

00:11:56.920 What?

00:11:57.340 And she is a member of like a church group and they're trying to make that look like it's a cult.

00:12:01.560 Well, she's Catholic.

00:12:02.500 Yeah.

00:12:02.700 And then there's some group that she's in that's, that's a Catholic group.

00:12:07.200 It's a Catholic group.

00:12:07.960 Um, and it's like a Catholic group of people who like pledge to each other to help each other throughout their lives.

00:12:14.360 Oh, that's kookery.

00:12:16.220 That's crazy.

00:12:17.660 What a nut job.

00:12:18.860 You can't have her on the court.

00:12:19.940 Uh, but she, I mean, again, seemingly would be on the right side of Roe versus Wade with that background.

00:12:27.260 Um, so that is something that is positive, possible, uh, is possibly a positive, um, uh,

00:12:35.020 Thapar or what is it?

00:12:36.780 Amul, Amul Thapar.

00:12:38.240 There we go.

00:12:38.660 Amul Thapar.

00:12:39.620 The other, this is another one recommended highly is the pick of Mitch McConnell.

00:12:43.640 This is who Mitch McConnell wants to get this gig.

00:12:45.980 And he's been on the list.

00:12:47.420 He's pretty conservative.

00:12:48.200 He's, uh, on the ideological rating scale is slightly to the right of Alito.

00:12:54.700 Wow.

00:12:55.260 Um, so that's seemingly a good pick.

00:12:57.100 Yeah.

00:12:57.360 Again, I get a little nervous when you have people recommending others.

00:13:01.300 Yeah.

00:13:01.820 It always makes me nervous, but I understand it.

00:13:04.420 And then Kethledge, who is, uh, equal to Gorsuch on this ideological list, which is pretty,

00:13:09.820 pretty, pretty nice.

00:13:10.740 So there's a, I mean, look, all of these justices are right of center.

00:13:15.080 Mm-hmm.

00:13:16.840 Why we would go more towards the center than the right.

00:13:19.460 No reason to.

00:13:20.140 There's no reason to here.

00:13:21.040 You know what?

00:13:21.680 We talked about this on the news and why it matters, which we are both on every day here

00:13:25.420 in the blaze.

00:13:26.740 If you have, if you go in there and you put in the most, you put in Mike Lee, let's just

00:13:31.060 say, they're not going to do this.

00:13:32.060 I don't think, but let's say you put in Mike Lee and Mike Lee goes through there and he's

00:13:35.420 been outspoken against Roe versus Wade thinks it's a terrible decision, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:38.660 And Murkowski and Collins come out and say, no, I'm not going to vote for them.

00:13:43.720 First of all, you're going to have a great case to go to red state Democrats in that election

00:13:47.480 and say, hey, hey, West Virginia, they, you know, we needed the vote for Manchin and he

00:13:53.140 wouldn't do it.

00:13:54.000 You're gonna have a great case to win all of those Senate seats that are in red states.

00:13:58.120 Yep.

00:13:58.660 Uh, I think you roll the dice with it because there's a good chance Republicans expand their

00:14:03.700 majority here in the Senate.

00:14:04.940 That is set up perfectly for them to do so.

00:14:07.440 If you have an outstanding Supreme court seat, um, it's going to drive people to the polls

00:14:13.040 like crazy.

00:14:14.240 And I think you rolled the dice with it.

00:14:15.720 And then you put in the most conservative person you absolutely can.

00:14:20.000 Uh, and now you don't necessarily have to have them outspoken like Lee has been, or maybe

00:14:24.440 prior has been on, on, on Roe versus Wade, but you need to have someone who you're sure

00:14:30.160 of no, no, no playing here.

00:14:32.980 No, no.

00:14:34.100 Oh, well, let's pick someone who's never said anything about an issue.

00:14:37.900 Let's not anger the liberals.

00:14:39.560 Yeah.

00:14:39.800 You don't need to do that here.

00:14:40.620 Even if you lose Murkowski and Collins, it's just an argument to come back.

00:14:44.200 You'll get, probably get to 54 or 55 seats in the Senate, and then you'll be able to

00:14:48.200 get whoever you want through.

00:14:49.820 Uh, and if you, if, if they go along with it, if you get a, if you have another Gorsuch

00:14:53.280 ready to go and you think they're that good, then do it.

00:14:55.720 And it's great.

00:14:56.800 But if you don't get it through, you can be patient with this one.

00:14:59.820 I think I'd rather, I'd rather not pull the trigger on somebody like Hardeman who is really

00:15:05.340 risky.

00:15:06.880 And then at the end of the day, you're like, oh, well, if we waited three months, you know,

00:15:11.920 we could have had somebody better.

00:15:13.120 You know, this is maybe the main issue for an awful lot of people, uh, for in, in voting

00:15:19.120 for Donald Trump.

00:15:19.780 Those who weren't absolutely sold on him from the beginning usually came to the conclusion,

00:15:25.060 well, the Supreme court, he'll be good with the, he'll be a lot better on the Supreme

00:15:29.060 court.

00:15:29.380 And we've got some openings that are likely, and I'm not going to, I'm not going to put

00:15:32.240 Hillary Clinton there.

00:15:33.060 I'm going to vote for Trump because of the Supreme court.

00:15:35.060 How many people did that?

00:15:36.180 Lots.

00:15:36.600 Many.

00:15:37.480 So now here's the chance.

00:15:39.300 Yeah.

00:15:39.760 Here's your opportunity.

00:15:41.260 Seem to do well with pick one.

00:15:42.640 You know, you never know this for, I mean, Roberts looked great in the first year or two as

00:15:46.560 well.

00:15:46.820 So you, you never know, but it looks great.

00:15:49.440 If he can pull out another one like that, it's going to be fantastic.

00:15:51.620 That'd be great.

00:15:52.480 Triple eight, uh, seven, two, seven back.

00:15:56.560 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:15:58.080 Triple eight, seven, two, seven back.

00:16:00.980 Looks like we avoided a 4th of July attack on downtown Cleveland, which is always a good

00:16:07.840 thing.

00:16:08.480 Uh, FBI said Demetrius Nathaniel Pitts, also known as Abdur Rahim Rafiq.

00:16:13.860 It's taken into custody on Sunday around 10.

00:16:16.820 On accusations of attempting to provide material support to foreign terrorist organizations.

00:16:22.580 Apparently he was trying to figure out how to give toys with, um, explosives in them to

00:16:30.960 children of military, uh, veterans.

00:16:34.300 Oh my God.

00:16:35.260 Yeah.

00:16:35.720 And they had all kinds of things planned for, uh, downtown Cleveland.

00:16:41.000 And fortunately we dodged a bullet there, uh, frightening.

00:16:45.420 Wow.

00:16:45.920 Yeah.

00:16:46.080 Targets like St.

00:16:46.900 John's Cathedral and giving remote control cars packed with explosives and shrapnel to

00:16:52.520 the children of military members.

00:16:53.820 Oh my God.

00:16:55.140 Can you imagine?

00:16:55.920 Uh, actually when we saw this in the documentary, Halloween three season of the witch in which,

00:17:00.920 um, they, that company, which of course I can't remember the name of the company.

00:17:06.080 Right.

00:17:06.480 Uh, Oh, silver shamrock.

00:17:08.060 I think it was.

00:17:08.700 Uh, and they, uh, they gave Halloween masks to kids all around America.

00:17:13.140 Right.

00:17:13.380 You had to put them on while you watch.

00:17:14.880 Right.

00:17:15.020 And then you gather around the TV and they had this, you know, the three more days to

00:17:18.240 Halloween, Halloween, Halloween song.

00:17:20.600 Oh, don't sing that otherwise.

00:17:21.240 I don't want to, I won't sing, I won't sing the full song because then if you're wearing

00:17:24.540 the mask, it will apparently, I don't know what it does exactly inside, but I know bugs

00:17:28.900 crawl out your eyes and yeah, it's worse than hypnosis.

00:17:31.620 Well, it crushes your skull and then bugs crawl out your eyes.

00:17:35.080 I don't know exactly where the bug, were the bugs stored in the mask?

00:17:38.340 Where did they come from?

00:17:39.880 But the bugs and snakes, why were there snakes, were there snakes in the rubber of the

00:17:44.820 mask?

00:17:45.280 I don't know how it happened.

00:17:45.700 It never seemed to be fully explained.

00:17:46.840 No, but I mean.

00:17:47.560 I just know it was horrible.

00:17:48.460 But I mean, that was legitimately like the plot.

00:17:51.280 You give kids something that they like, they hold on to it, they put it on their heads

00:17:54.760 and then it kills them.

00:17:55.720 Yes.

00:17:56.140 That is, the fact that that's a potentially real life scenario, slightly altered from

00:18:02.380 Halloween 3, Season of the Witch.

00:18:04.380 Yes.

00:18:04.800 I'm glad they caught this guy.

00:18:05.920 Jeez, that is.

00:18:06.560 Oh my gosh.

00:18:06.920 Can you imagine?

00:18:07.960 When you get into that stuff, I mean, look, killing people for any reason.

00:18:11.560 There's just a guy who was arrested for threatening to kill Ajit Pai, the FCC commissioner

00:18:18.100 over net neutrality.

00:18:19.800 Now look, there's a lot of reasons to kill somebody.

00:18:21.820 But net neutrality.

00:18:23.400 Your Netflix buffering is not one of them.

00:18:26.920 It's like, I just, the amazing world we live in today.

00:18:30.920 I know.

00:18:31.520 You know, it's incredible.

00:18:34.220 And here, like, there's a certain extra level deep in the bowels of hell for someone who

00:18:39.900 would try to get a kid an exploding toy.

00:18:42.660 No doubt about it.

00:18:43.540 Wow.

00:18:44.560 Wow.

00:18:45.280 Really dodged a bullet there.

00:18:46.380 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn, 888-727-BECK.

00:18:53.660 We were talking about potential Supreme Court nominees.

00:18:58.280 What is this group that Amy, the two names that we're hearing most right now are Judge

00:19:04.180 Kavanaugh and Judge Barrett.

00:19:06.280 Amy Coney Barrett.

00:19:07.600 They're both added in that last group, which makes sense, the way they picked last time.

00:19:10.960 Has he talked to both of them?

00:19:12.120 I think he has, right?

00:19:12.840 He's interviewed both of them yesterday.

00:19:13.940 And also, CBS is reporting that those are the final two.

00:19:19.060 Now, she belongs to some scary, scary religious group.

00:19:22.960 Yes.

00:19:23.280 It's Catholic.

00:19:24.920 Have you heard of this?

00:19:25.880 Catholic?

00:19:26.460 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:19:26.980 Am I mispronouncing that?

00:19:28.640 Catholic?

00:19:29.360 Catholic.

00:19:29.880 I think it's Catholic.

00:19:30.920 Okay.

00:19:31.240 I don't know.

00:19:31.780 I'm not familiar.

00:19:32.880 It sounds really bad, though.

00:19:34.440 No.

00:19:35.060 Well, there's only like 2 billion of them around the world.

00:19:38.560 That's it?

00:19:38.980 Yeah.

00:19:39.180 Oh, my gosh.

00:19:39.800 That's weird.

00:19:40.220 Yeah, it's this tiny little fringe group.

00:19:42.240 A cult.

00:19:42.720 So.

00:19:43.580 So, she is a faithful Catholic.

00:19:46.220 And she had an issue with Dianne Feinstein.

00:19:49.860 Where, you know, Dianne is not apparently a fan of being a faithful Catholic, I guess.

00:19:55.900 I don't know exactly what she's describing in this clip, but it's become sort of a famous

00:20:01.160 one because if you're a faithful person, you know, if you're going to be attacked like

00:20:08.800 this, if this is an attack, then you're eliminating everybody of faith, basically.

00:20:14.080 Yes.

00:20:14.420 Everybody who actually lives their faith.

00:20:16.180 And I don't think that's what, I don't think that's what we're supposed to be doing here.

00:20:19.600 A litmus test to make sure you're not religious.

00:20:22.140 This legitimately seems to be what is being applied here.

00:20:26.400 This is Dianne Feinstein with Amy Coney Barrett.

00:20:29.180 When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within

00:20:40.640 you.

00:20:42.340 And that's of concern.

00:20:45.140 When you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for, for years in this

00:20:53.320 country.

00:20:54.180 What?

00:20:55.460 So that's a concern that you believe things strongly in your religion.

00:20:59.700 What are you talking about?

00:21:01.720 Is this the United States of America?

00:21:04.520 I don't know.

00:21:05.780 We take a wrong turn and wind up in a Soviet bloc nation.

00:21:09.840 What do you mean?

00:21:10.500 That's a concern.

00:21:11.540 Why?

00:21:11.920 What, what do you, what do you mean you're concerned about that?

00:21:15.940 And of course, what she means is we fought so hard for Roe v. Wade that we will not give

00:21:21.720 it up come what may.

00:21:22.900 Yes, absolutely.

00:21:23.420 We are going to continue the slaughter of children.

00:21:25.660 And if you want to stop that, I'm sorry, you can't be a part of any judicial system.

00:21:30.940 It is under, we believe, and we are under the impression that some Catholics do not like

00:21:36.800 Roe v. Wade and they do not like abortion and therefore we do not want you on the court.

00:21:43.640 That's essentially what she's saying.

00:21:45.100 It's exactly what she's saying.

00:21:46.460 And she can't obviously state it that clearly, but that's exactly what she means.

00:21:51.220 Now, she is also, it goes further than this, Pat.

00:21:55.400 She is in a very deep cult as described by a lot of people on Twitter.

00:22:03.060 But it does not seem like necessarily a cult to me.

00:22:05.760 I would like to get your opinion on this.

00:22:07.420 This is the People of Praise group, right?

00:22:08.920 Yes.

00:22:09.320 She is a member of a small, tightly knit Christian group called People of Praise.

00:22:17.640 I don't know why it just seems like you should say it in a scary way.

00:22:19.740 Uh, they, uh, they, the members of the group swear a lifelong oath of loyalty called a covenant

00:22:27.340 to one another.

00:22:29.680 Now, I don't know what that, I mean, obviously, like, if you take this to, you know, the Rajneeshis

00:22:36.540 in, you know, Oregon, you could find a way that a lifelong cult or a lifelong pledge of

00:22:44.140 loyalty or a covenant could be really scary, right?

00:22:47.960 Like, and that's obviously how this is intended to read, you know, but I mean, when you listen

00:22:53.100 to it, I mean, it's like, well, what, what is it a covenant to do?

00:22:56.360 Exactly.

00:22:56.840 So let me, current and former members say that the heads and handmaids, that's what they're

00:23:01.480 called.

00:23:01.920 So they have, uh, they, the covenant is to one another.

00:23:04.820 They're assigned and accountable to a personal advisor called a head for men and a handmaid

00:23:09.480 for women.

00:23:10.120 The group teaches that husbands are the heads of their wives and should take authority over

00:23:14.440 the family.

00:23:15.220 Now, this is how the New York times also characterizes the Bible, right?

00:23:19.000 So I don't know how you're, if you're going to be, if you're a religious person, why you'd

00:23:23.280 be scared of this?

00:23:24.040 Because this is how they talk about these issues all the time and they just make it

00:23:27.280 seem like it's the worst thing that's ever been invented.

00:23:30.200 Right.

00:23:30.480 And when you talk, you know, maybe it's the, maybe this is a terrible group and it's, it's

00:23:35.320 the boy who cried wolf because it's the, anything that is religious, they make sound like this.

00:23:40.020 So I don't know.

00:23:40.900 I don't really know by looking at this says current and former members say that the heads

00:23:44.820 and handmaids give direction on important decisions, including, including whom to date,

00:23:49.980 whom to marry, where to live, whether to take a job or buy a home and how to raise children.

00:23:54.580 Now that to me strikes to me as the way the New York times would write about

00:24:00.100 a support group, a group of people who have similar principles and who realize that men

00:24:08.000 and women are fallible and at times go off the road and you need someone to help bring

00:24:13.540 you back to the correct road, right?

00:24:15.560 I know that that's in your church, right?

00:24:17.320 You have people who, you have a system, not exactly like that, but it's pretty similar

00:24:21.940 from my understanding of it, right?

00:24:23.640 Where like you, you know, Glenn has talked about how he's had people who are in troubled times

00:24:27.720 that come over to the house and he, he'll go visit them to try to help them through troubled

00:24:31.800 times.

00:24:32.380 Yes.

00:24:33.020 Right?

00:24:33.240 Like that seems like a really rational thing for a church to be doing.

00:24:36.720 Yeah.

00:24:37.920 Legal scholars say that such loyalty oaths could raise legitimate questions about judicial

00:24:43.040 nominees, independence, impartiality.

00:24:45.200 So the idea here is that Amy Coney Barrett is going to be like, I don't know what to do

00:24:48.760 on Roe versus Wade, let me go ask my handmaid.

00:24:52.200 And then the handmaid is going to be like, oh, you absolutely want that.

00:24:56.300 Like, is that really the implication here?

00:24:58.920 I guess.

00:24:59.520 That's absolutely not going to be the case.

00:25:02.000 That's not going to happen.

00:25:04.680 This is ludicrous.

00:25:06.920 Ludicrous.

00:25:07.800 These groups can be so absorbing that it's difficult for a person to retain individual judgment,

00:25:13.720 says Sarah Berenger Gordon, a professor of constitutional law and history at the University

00:25:18.820 of Pennsylvania.

00:25:19.260 And an expert on the people of praise?

00:25:21.460 Absolutely.

00:25:22.220 Okay, sure.

00:25:22.960 Now let's hear what she says then.

00:25:24.420 What?

00:25:24.760 Does she go in depth into the group?

00:25:26.460 No.

00:25:27.000 Well, she says, I don't think it's discriminatory or hostile to religion to want to learn more

00:25:31.480 about her relationship with the group.

00:25:33.280 Okay.

00:25:33.740 All right.

00:25:34.100 Ms. Barrett, through a spokesperson at the Notre Dame Law School where she is on faculty,

00:25:39.880 declined several requests to be interviewed for this article.

00:25:42.220 So, leader of People of Praise, Craig S. Lent, said, he changed his name to Lent.

00:25:49.560 His name is Lent.

00:25:50.700 I'm just going to assume.

00:25:51.840 These people are crazy.

00:25:56.380 Oh, that's great.

00:25:57.700 Oh, boy.

00:25:58.620 He was joined by Bill Communion.

00:26:03.340 And David Easter.

00:26:04.920 Craig Lent said that the group was not nefarious or controversial, but its policy was not to

00:26:15.080 confirm whether Ms. Barrett or anyone else was a member.

00:26:17.780 Mr. Lent, whose title overall coordinator, who has belonged to the group for nearly 40

00:26:22.600 years, said in interviews that the group was about building community and long-term relationships

00:26:26.440 and that members have a wide spectrum of political views.

00:26:29.300 We don't try to control people, said Mr. Lent.

00:26:32.440 Again, a guy who was so controlled he changed his name to Lent.

00:26:35.780 Let's be honest about it.

00:26:36.560 That's just not.

00:26:37.780 No.

00:26:38.700 Who is also a professor of electrical engineering and physics at Notre Dame.

00:26:42.400 Sounds just like a whack job.

00:26:44.380 Yep.

00:26:44.720 You know?

00:26:45.220 Yep.

00:26:46.280 There's never any guarantee that the leader is always right.

00:26:48.780 You have to discern and act in the Lord.

00:26:50.380 He later added, if and when members hold political offices or judicial offices or administrative

00:26:56.060 offices, we would certainly not tell them how to discharge their responsibilities.

00:27:00.960 Again, it just seems like the type of thing that this is going to sound great to think

00:27:05.160 progress, right?

00:27:06.320 This argument is going to seem really compelling to raise money for media matters.

00:27:11.260 You know, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is going to be able to make a big deal about this when

00:27:18.280 she's raising money for her campaign.

00:27:19.880 But it's not real, right?

00:27:21.460 I mean, it doesn't seem like it's an actual legitimate point to be brought up.

00:27:26.820 It's trying to scare people to think she's too religious and therefore can't be accepted.

00:27:30.700 Right.

00:27:31.340 And I'm sorry.

00:27:33.260 What's the difference between that and this from Nancy Pelosi?

00:27:37.340 They ask me all the time.

00:27:38.280 What is your favorite this?

00:27:39.260 What is your favorite that?

00:27:40.560 What is your favorite that?

00:27:41.960 And at one time, what is your favorite word?

00:27:46.260 And I said, my favorite word, that is really easy.

00:27:49.000 It's easy.

00:27:49.660 My favorite word is the word.

00:27:51.880 The word.

00:27:52.940 The word.

00:27:53.660 Is the word.

00:27:54.380 Is the word.

00:27:55.040 And that is everything.

00:27:55.840 That's two words.

00:27:55.920 It says it all.

00:27:58.060 It says it all.

00:27:59.140 And you know the biblical reference.

00:28:01.080 You know it.

00:28:01.500 You know the gospel reference.

00:28:02.540 The word.

00:28:03.360 The word.

00:28:03.820 And that is the word.

00:28:04.820 That is the word.

00:28:07.740 The word.

00:28:09.040 Is the word.

00:28:09.740 Is the word.

00:28:10.600 We have to give voice.

00:28:12.580 We have to give voice.

00:28:13.100 To what that means in terms of.

00:28:15.100 In terms of.

00:28:15.720 Public policy that would be in keeping.

00:28:17.600 What?

00:28:18.160 With the.

00:28:18.440 Oh.

00:28:19.540 In terms of public policy.

00:28:21.080 What kind of crazy nut job wackiness was that?

00:28:25.820 Wait.

00:28:26.260 The word gives voice to your public policy?

00:28:30.360 Can you imagine if one of these Supreme Court justices.

00:28:33.080 Nobody had any trouble with that?

00:28:34.300 No.

00:28:34.760 Are you.

00:28:35.140 You're telling me you.

00:28:36.040 You make laws based on the word?

00:28:38.060 Yeah.

00:28:38.600 I hope so.

00:28:39.760 I wish you did.

00:28:40.600 Because you're.

00:28:41.120 I know that you're ignoring the word.

00:28:43.740 When you make public policy.

00:28:45.000 If you're Nancy Pelosi.

00:28:46.520 I wish they would listen to the word.

00:28:48.260 But nobody was scared of that.

00:28:50.080 No.

00:28:51.040 Part of the reason why no one was scared of that.

00:28:52.780 Is no one believes that she actually thinks it.

00:28:54.860 True.

00:28:55.080 Like no one believes she does that at all.

00:28:57.520 I mean.

00:28:57.780 I love how the whole point of her is to say that it's the word.

00:29:00.440 And to give voice to the word.

00:29:01.820 But she won't actually say the word.

00:29:06.600 I love that.

00:29:08.040 It's true.

00:29:08.600 It's true.

00:29:09.860 You know.

00:29:10.280 This is her.

00:29:11.900 You know.

00:29:12.340 Nancy Pelosi is famous for this.

00:29:13.900 Right?

00:29:14.300 Yeah.

00:29:14.460 She.

00:29:14.900 She acts mega religious in certain moments.

00:29:19.000 But then.

00:29:19.340 When she's with religious people.

00:29:20.780 When we see.

00:29:21.220 She's with.

00:29:21.600 And she's pandering to them.

00:29:23.260 That's what she says.

00:29:24.260 When it's time to get donations.

00:29:25.500 Yep.

00:29:26.120 From a religious group.

00:29:27.320 She sounds like that.

00:29:28.640 Yep.

00:29:28.900 But she doesn't act like that.

00:29:30.320 Not at all.

00:29:30.940 And that's what they're comfortable with.

00:29:32.080 That's actually what the left likes.

00:29:33.560 Hey.

00:29:33.780 You don't want to come out.

00:29:34.320 And you want to give a little voice to faith and stuff.

00:29:36.400 So we can suck in some of those people.

00:29:37.860 Great.

00:29:38.440 You bet.

00:29:38.740 As long as you don't vote like that.

00:29:40.380 Fine.

00:29:41.360 And it's the.

00:29:41.920 And they.

00:29:42.280 It's scared of the opposite.

00:29:43.400 As long as you want to pander.

00:29:44.320 As long as it's just pandering.

00:29:46.300 We're completely comfortable.

00:29:47.460 Exactly.

00:29:48.140 But if you mean it.

00:29:49.360 We don't want anything to do with you.

00:29:50.580 And this is reflected in their view of the founders as well.

00:29:53.020 I mean.

00:29:53.400 Yeah.

00:29:53.660 Absolutely.

00:29:53.920 Their argument when we bring out a David Barton document.

00:29:56.940 You know.

00:29:57.140 David's dug up some letter that George Washington wrote.

00:30:00.180 And it's all faithful.

00:30:01.420 And it sounds so religious.

00:30:03.500 What's the.

00:30:03.920 Oh well.

00:30:04.420 That was just their public face.

00:30:06.300 They just said those things.

00:30:07.900 Because they knew the people were religious.

00:30:09.880 They weren't really religious.

00:30:11.320 That had nothing to do with this.

00:30:12.840 Most of them were secularists.

00:30:14.680 Most of them were.

00:30:15.440 Deists.

00:30:15.840 Deists at the most.

00:30:17.600 Uh huh.

00:30:17.900 And it's like.

00:30:18.280 Their idea is.

00:30:19.980 Politicians lie.

00:30:21.000 And they were playing this religious face to the people.

00:30:24.360 Because that's what they do.

00:30:25.100 It reveals a lot about what they are doing.

00:30:26.660 That's what they are doing.

00:30:28.180 Yep.

00:30:28.340 You know.

00:30:28.820 It's.

00:30:28.940 It's.

00:30:29.280 It's.

00:30:29.400 What many politicians have done throughout history.

00:30:31.920 It.

00:30:32.440 It is a common practice to.

00:30:34.260 Essentially fake your faith.

00:30:35.960 To win over the people.

00:30:37.660 And then vote however you want.

00:30:39.520 So that's very familiar to the left.

00:30:42.020 Mm hmm.

00:30:42.520 And I guess they're applying that.

00:30:43.740 There's nothing wrong with having faith.

00:30:47.540 In fact it's very common here in our history.

00:30:49.600 Our.

00:30:50.000 Our society was built.

00:30:52.120 On the idea that faithful people.

00:30:53.840 Would.

00:30:54.060 Could make public decisions.

00:30:55.560 Absolutely.

00:30:56.120 Based on a central.

00:30:57.660 Uh.

00:30:57.860 Not only.

00:30:58.580 Their own personal opinion.

00:30:59.720 Because that's not what this is supposed to be about.

00:31:01.240 It's supposed to be about.

00:31:02.140 Can you analyze the constitution.

00:31:03.680 And stick to it.

00:31:04.760 That's what it's supposed to be about.

00:31:06.040 Period.

00:31:06.840 And there's no reason here.

00:31:08.240 Uh.

00:31:08.400 Someone wrote in and said.

00:31:09.180 Well we don't.

00:31:09.560 We don't want to.

00:31:10.020 We need Carson Wentz.

00:31:11.240 Not Ryan Leaf.

00:31:12.060 It's a first round draft pick.

00:31:14.120 You gotta.

00:31:14.960 Your first overall pick.

00:31:16.280 Mm hmm.

00:31:16.440 Pick the person.

00:31:17.440 Who you think is going to be best.

00:31:18.740 Don't try to massage it.

00:31:20.800 Don't try to pick.

00:31:22.040 You know.

00:31:22.480 Someone who you think might pass muster.

00:31:24.480 With some liberals.

00:31:25.840 Pick the most conservative person you have.

00:31:27.920 That.

00:31:28.160 And.

00:31:28.760 Conservative is not even the right way to say it.

00:31:30.060 The constitutionalist.

00:31:31.300 That's what you need here.

00:31:32.620 Um.

00:31:33.020 And you know.

00:31:33.580 Look.

00:31:33.740 A lot of people are defending Kavanaugh.

00:31:35.220 Which is one of the people we brought up.

00:31:36.440 That could be a risk.

00:31:37.580 Ben Shapiro kind of said.

00:31:38.560 I'm.

00:31:38.720 I'm worried about this.

00:31:39.880 Uh.

00:31:40.660 A couple of other healthcare experts.

00:31:42.540 Did not like the way he looked at Obamacare.

00:31:45.540 However.

00:31:45.980 Overall.

00:31:46.400 He looks pretty solid.

00:31:47.720 Uh.

00:31:47.960 Ed Whelan at.

00:31:49.200 National Review.

00:31:50.040 Has been.

00:31:50.640 One of his defenders.

00:31:51.800 And he's.

00:31:52.320 Pretty smart guy too.

00:31:53.500 Mm hmm.

00:31:53.900 So.

00:31:54.420 It's not.

00:31:54.800 It's not universal.

00:31:55.840 I just feel like.

00:31:56.480 I'm just running away.

00:31:59.260 From risk here.

00:32:00.260 Yeah.

00:32:00.360 I'm risk averse with this pick.

00:32:01.520 Anybody.

00:32:01.960 Anybody.

00:32:02.360 Anybody who looks like they could go the other way.

00:32:05.460 You should run from.

00:32:06.700 Mm hmm.

00:32:06.940 Because we've learned.

00:32:08.120 From Suter.

00:32:09.100 And Sandra Day O'Connor.

00:32:10.280 And Anthony Kennedy.

00:32:11.120 We've been down that road a million times.

00:32:12.840 Yeah.

00:32:13.080 And.

00:32:13.180 We don't need to go down that road again.

00:32:14.580 I mean.

00:32:14.920 Look at this.

00:32:15.620 The reason why Roe versus Wade was not overturned.

00:32:17.940 Is because Ronald freaking Reagan missed.

00:32:20.800 Right.

00:32:21.280 That's how hard this is to do.

00:32:22.800 Right.

00:32:23.820 Yeah.

00:32:24.220 I mean that is a big statement.

00:32:26.000 This is not.

00:32:26.500 People are like.

00:32:27.080 Oh well.

00:32:27.520 You know what.

00:32:27.880 You don't think Trump can pick another justice.

00:32:29.280 It's hard.

00:32:30.160 It's really hard.

00:32:30.720 I mean.

00:32:30.940 You know.

00:32:31.220 Bush probably went.

00:32:32.480 I would say one for two.

00:32:34.480 You know.

00:32:34.800 It looks like Gorsuch is a home run so far.

00:32:36.920 But we don't know.

00:32:37.460 It's not long enough to really tell.

00:32:39.040 But I mean.

00:32:39.440 Kennedy.

00:32:40.080 Reagan went one for two.

00:32:42.000 Right.

00:32:42.620 Yes.

00:32:42.960 Or he actually had more than that.

00:32:44.880 We had O'Connor.

00:32:45.660 Yep.

00:32:46.280 And O'Connor he missed with.

00:32:47.740 Kennedy.

00:32:48.220 He missed with.

00:32:49.380 Missed with.

00:32:50.000 Right.

00:32:50.200 And Thomas was Bush.

00:32:52.460 Right.

00:32:52.680 Was Thomas Bush.

00:32:53.160 Thomas was Bush.

00:32:53.980 Yeah.

00:32:54.200 So I mean.

00:32:54.980 This is hard to do.

00:32:56.940 Yeah.

00:32:57.120 It's not a criticism of the president or this process or anything.

00:33:00.040 If you have any element of risk whatsoever.

00:33:03.780 Eliminate it.

00:33:04.500 Yeah.

00:33:05.080 Absolutely.

00:33:06.020 Don't miss with this one.

00:33:07.800 Because even Reagan missed.

00:33:10.640 Twice.

00:33:12.040 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:33:13.200 On the Glenn Beck program.

00:33:17.560 Glenn Beck.

00:33:19.000 Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:33:19.800 888-727-BECK.

00:33:23.080 There are some things you should be concerned about in a Supreme Court justice.

00:33:26.520 Okay.

00:33:27.140 Let me share one of those with you.

00:33:28.580 You should certainly be aided by all the.

00:33:31.540 Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

00:33:32.880 Constitution writing that has gone on.

00:33:35.000 Aided?

00:33:35.620 Since the end of World War II.

00:33:37.980 Yeah.

00:33:38.360 We should be helped by the Constitution writing since World War II.

00:33:40.700 To the U.S. Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012.

00:33:46.920 Right.

00:33:47.220 Because it's such an old document.

00:33:50.300 Right.

00:33:50.760 I might look at the Constitution of South Africa.

00:33:53.800 Right.

00:33:53.980 That was a deliberate attempt.

00:33:56.920 A deliberate event.

00:33:57.860 Have a fundamental instrument of government that embraced basic human rights.

00:34:04.040 Sure.

00:34:04.720 Had an independent judiciary.

00:34:06.740 Yeah.

00:34:07.100 We don't have that.

00:34:08.660 I think.

00:34:09.300 Or wait.

00:34:09.760 We do.

00:34:10.160 A great piece of work that was done.

00:34:13.360 Much more recently than the U.S. Constitution.

00:34:16.020 Uh-huh.

00:34:16.140 In Canada.

00:34:17.700 Oh, yeah.

00:34:18.340 Yeah.

00:34:18.660 Has a charter of rights and freedoms.

00:34:20.660 Uh-huh.

00:34:21.260 And that was from 1982.

00:34:23.240 So those are way better than ours.

00:34:24.840 Well, that's what you should avoid in a Supreme Court justice.

00:34:27.920 Somebody who doesn't even care about our Constitution.

00:34:30.580 Wow.

00:34:31.080 How about that?

00:34:33.020 Glenn Beck.

00:34:34.820 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:34:38.260 888-727-BECK.

00:34:40.680 We've been kicking around the Supreme Court nominee a little bit today.

00:34:43.420 And kind of going over whether or not religion should be a litmus test against nominating a Supreme Court justice.

00:34:51.520 Seems somewhat unconstitutional.

00:34:53.080 Um, but that's what they're doing kind of right now to Amy Coney Barrett.

00:34:57.960 She belongs to a religious group.

00:35:00.460 And, uh, well, she's Catholic.

00:35:02.340 But then there's some subsection within the religion.

00:35:05.580 She belongs to something called People of Praise, which I'm not that familiar with.

00:35:10.180 But they make covenants with each other.

00:35:12.560 Oh, no.

00:35:13.220 That's a scary word for progressives.

00:35:17.520 You've made a covenant?

00:35:18.960 Oh, okay.

00:35:19.660 So, that means you're going to have to call that person and get their advice on all your Supreme Court decisions?

00:35:26.620 No.

00:35:27.080 That's not what that means.

00:35:28.460 Is there anything really concerning in it all, though?

00:35:31.400 Have you seen anything that is scary?

00:35:32.320 Well, we know one thing that's concerning is one of the heads of the entire organization changed his name to Lent.

00:35:37.260 Lent.

00:35:37.760 Right.

00:35:38.620 Craig S. Lent.

00:35:39.780 And I don't have any information to back that claim up.

00:35:42.560 No.

00:35:42.860 And we don't know if he changed his name or that was his given name.

00:35:45.860 We don't know.

00:35:47.660 In fact, I would assume it's probably his given name.

00:35:49.420 But I think to make this scary, we have to say his name was Craig Smith.

00:35:56.020 And he joined this group and they made him change his name to Craig Lent.

00:35:59.200 Or he's such a fanatic.

00:36:00.760 He did it on his own volition.

00:36:02.700 Ooh.

00:36:03.600 That's almost as scary.

00:36:05.180 If he acts independently, though, then it's not a cult.

00:36:08.320 So it has to be somebody told him to do this.

00:36:11.860 Along with his assistants, Bill Easter, Terry Communion, and Jim Prayer.

00:36:25.700 That may be the whole leadership of the group.

00:36:28.680 We don't know.

00:36:29.140 We don't know.

00:36:29.780 We don't know.

00:36:30.580 We don't know.

00:36:31.520 Current and former members of People of Praise.

00:36:33.440 I would like to, if there's anyone in the audience who happens to belong to this or

00:36:36.340 know someone who belongs to it or know anything about the group, I really don't know other

00:36:39.880 than the New York Times is trying to scare me into thinking it's terrible.

00:36:43.200 Current and former members of People of Praise said that Ms. Barrett and her husband, who

00:36:47.680 have seven children, that's two kids.

00:36:49.240 Oh, there's another tip off that she's evil.

00:36:52.100 Seven children?

00:36:53.120 How many times did Craig Lent tell her to have a kid?

00:36:55.040 That's what I want to know.

00:36:55.760 Seven?

00:36:56.340 Probably seven.

00:36:57.380 Because she can't act independently, apparently.

00:36:59.400 They both belonged to the group.

00:37:01.560 Their fathers had served as leaders.

00:37:05.540 The group was founded in 1971, claims about 1,800 adult members in 22 locations in North

00:37:11.500 America and the Caribbean.

00:37:12.660 So a pretty small group, relatively.

00:37:14.760 Group believes in prophecy, speaking in tongue, and divine healings, staples of Pentecostal

00:37:19.780 churches that some Catholics have adopted in a movement called Charismatic Renewal.

00:37:23.520 People of Praise was an early leader in the flowering of that movement in North America.

00:37:30.460 90% of its members are Catholic.

00:37:34.900 To fulfill the group's communitarian vision, unmarried members are sometimes placed to live

00:37:40.040 in homes with married couples and their children, and members often look to buy or rent homes

00:37:45.200 near other members.

00:37:47.860 No.

00:37:49.260 No.

00:37:49.960 You're just controlling their real estate choices now.

00:37:52.480 Yep.

00:37:53.520 Okay, cross her off.

00:37:54.720 First Lent, just name the guy Lent.

00:37:57.600 Now?

00:37:58.520 You're just putting him on Zillow?

00:38:00.720 It's got to be within a radius of other people's houses?

00:38:04.220 That's almost like a community.

00:38:05.700 It sounds like a community.

00:38:07.640 Cross her off the list.

00:38:09.320 I say cross her off the list.

00:38:12.320 She's clearly a kook.

00:38:13.580 Some former members criticized the group from deviating from Catholic doctrine, which does

00:38:17.860 not teach male headship.

00:38:19.580 In contrast to some evangelical churches, the personal advisors can be too controlling, the

00:38:25.160 critics say.

00:38:26.060 They may betray confidences, and too often they supplant the role of priest.

00:38:31.980 There you go.

00:38:33.580 So, I mean, basically, we can tell here that this is way off the list.

00:38:41.020 So, is that scarier than this from Ruth Bader Ginsburg?

00:38:44.920 Well, I can't speak about what the Egyptian experience should be.

00:38:51.660 On doing their new constitution.

00:38:53.700 This was 2012-ish when they had the revolution there, and they were talking about putting together

00:39:00.960 the constitution.

00:39:01.900 So, she was asked about that.

00:39:03.160 Because I'm operating under a rather old constitution.

00:39:07.480 Old.

00:39:08.220 Right.

00:39:08.760 Yeah.

00:39:09.140 Old.

00:39:09.440 The United States, in comparison to Egypt, is a very new nation.

00:39:13.940 Yeah, but...

00:39:14.940 And yet we have the...

00:39:16.880 Old.

00:39:17.600 The oldest...

00:39:18.640 Oldest.

00:39:19.060 Written constitution still in force in the world.

00:39:22.340 Amen.

00:39:22.500 Which is obviously a bad thing, that it's lasted this long, and it's been this durable.

00:39:27.660 Seems like maybe they got it right.

00:39:29.160 Man, that is such a revealing point.

00:39:30.460 Is that amazing?

00:39:30.920 Because she's not even...

00:39:32.440 Like, her...

00:39:34.720 When she's in the court, right?

00:39:36.980 She's speaking on behalf of the court.

00:39:39.060 She comes up with ridiculous justifications to say...

00:39:42.960 Always.

00:39:43.140 Her decisions are constitutional.

00:39:45.080 Yeah.

00:39:45.220 That's what they always do.

00:39:46.300 The left doesn't come out and say, you know what?

00:39:48.380 We don't think...

00:39:49.900 This is in the constitution, but this is what we think it should be.

00:39:53.340 I mean, occasionally they hint at those things in their decisions.

00:39:55.960 Mm-hmm.

00:39:56.320 But this is her telling you...

00:39:58.240 I don't believe in the constitution.

00:39:59.480 No, it sucks.

00:40:00.280 This is not the right way to go.

00:40:02.440 We need to play this...

00:40:03.300 We started playing this, but we didn't have time to finish it.

00:40:06.120 Listen to what she was saying when they were asking her about the constitution and giving

00:40:14.300 advice to other countries on their constitution.

00:40:17.860 You should certainly be aided by all the constitution writing that has gone on since the end of World

00:40:25.680 War II.

00:40:26.240 In her Supreme Court decisions.

00:40:29.460 That's right.

00:40:30.020 This was a 2012 interview, and they were asking her about how she bases her...

00:40:36.100 What she bases her decisions on.

00:40:38.520 So she should be aided by all the constitutions that have been written since World War II.

00:40:46.120 Wait, what?

00:40:47.020 No, absolutely not.

00:40:49.420 I mean, that is the exact opposite.

00:40:52.020 You shouldn't be influenced by anybody else's constitution.

00:40:55.980 It doesn't matter at all.

00:40:57.460 No.

00:40:58.300 Completely unrelated.

00:40:59.440 In fact, I would say restricted.

00:41:02.120 Yes.

00:41:02.500 You're not allowed to look at them.

00:41:03.700 Right.

00:41:04.040 Not look to the U.S. Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012.

00:41:11.400 I might look at the constitution of South Africa.

00:41:14.640 That was a deliberate attempt.

00:41:16.260 That's where I'd go to.

00:41:17.760 To have a fundamental instrument of government...

00:41:19.920 Well, I don't know if you know this, Pat, but South Africa has been a shining example...

00:41:23.660 Of liberty.

00:41:24.320 Of liberty throughout the days.

00:41:26.060 Right?

00:41:26.580 Yes.

00:41:27.300 We all long to someday figure it out the way South Africa has.

00:41:31.880 Well, if only.

00:41:33.320 I don't think we'll ever get there.

00:41:35.460 Stu, because it's something we can only aspire to.

00:41:38.580 We can never achieve.

00:41:39.520 It's the eternal harmony of South Africa.

00:41:44.120 I mean, what a ludicrous...

00:41:46.220 It's so dumb.

00:41:46.820 It's just ridiculous.

00:41:48.300 Embraced basic human rights.

00:41:51.340 Basic human rights.

00:41:52.460 Had an independent judiciary.

00:41:54.580 It really is, I think...

00:41:56.800 What a concept, isn't it?

00:41:57.820 Wait, an independent judiciary?

00:41:59.540 Who's ever heard of that?

00:42:00.840 Where do you think these people are getting the ideas?

00:42:04.220 From us.

00:42:06.120 From us.

00:42:07.180 A piece of work that was done.

00:42:09.360 Oh, man.

00:42:10.200 Much more recently than the U.S. Constitution, Canada...

00:42:14.440 Canada, sure.

00:42:15.280 ...has a charter of rights and freedoms.

00:42:17.840 Dates from 1982.

00:42:21.360 Oh, wow.

00:42:21.960 First of all, that's a good year, Pat.

00:42:23.400 1982.

00:42:23.660 That was a really good year.

00:42:24.240 It was a good year for wine.

00:42:25.720 It was a good year for constitutions.

00:42:27.440 Gremlins?

00:42:27.940 Didn't Gremlins come out around 1982?

00:42:29.940 Close.

00:42:30.220 You want to make sure...

00:42:31.620 It might be even more recent for Gremlins, though.

00:42:33.920 Really?

00:42:34.100 I think it was 84.

00:42:35.100 Oh, wow.

00:42:35.540 Okay.

00:42:35.740 But I'm not positive.

00:42:36.540 See, well, that's the thing.

00:42:37.460 Maybe we should learn from Gremlins.

00:42:38.920 In that, why not...

00:42:40.220 Why in 1982?

00:42:41.280 That's old.

00:42:42.380 What about a new constitution every Wednesday?

00:42:45.200 What about that?

00:42:47.940 It's Constitution Wednesday!

00:42:49.940 It's every Wednesday.

00:42:51.020 Tweet us your ideas for a new amendment.

00:42:53.320 Every Wednesday, we all tune in together and see what the law of the land is.

00:42:58.220 I like it.

00:42:59.000 I like it a lot.

00:42:59.520 What is the limiting principle?

00:43:01.380 I want to know.

00:43:02.360 You go on there.

00:43:03.840 Maybe we just tweet it out line by line.

00:43:06.260 Yeah, well, Iceland did that.

00:43:08.020 We should learn a lesson from Iceland.

00:43:10.640 Back in, what was it, 2010 or 12, 14, somewhere in there, when they were doing a new...

00:43:15.780 They wanted ideas tweeted to them.

00:43:18.900 And I think we should do the same thing.

00:43:21.340 And I think you're right.

00:43:22.500 I think it should be every Wednesday.

00:43:24.280 Just pick a day and start tweeting us constitutional ideas, and we'll just put them into a new constitution.

00:43:29.820 Finally get rid of this old dusty piece of crap we have.

00:43:32.420 Just set fire to it.

00:43:34.280 Why?

00:43:34.680 It's so old.

00:43:35.440 But you know what?

00:43:35.880 The best thing about it is, it's so old.

00:43:39.100 It's incredibly flammable, so it would light up right away.

00:43:42.400 Yeah, it's good.

00:43:43.000 You wouldn't even need lighter fluid.

00:43:44.340 Very dried up parchment.

00:43:46.120 So it'll burn fast.

00:43:47.160 Look at the European Convention on Human Rights.

00:43:50.080 Right.

00:43:50.560 Look at that.

00:43:51.220 So, yes, why not take advantage of what there is elsewhere in the world?

00:43:57.700 Because you're not supposed to?

00:44:00.160 Because that has nothing to do with your judicial decision here based on our constitution?

00:44:06.960 I mean, so that shows you there's somebody who doesn't even believe in our constitution that's sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court right now.

00:44:14.720 Yeah.

00:44:15.540 But it, you know, they don't have any problem with that.

00:44:18.080 No, not at all.

00:44:18.840 They have a problem with Amy Coney Barrett because she's religious.

00:44:21.940 Ruth Bader Ginsburg, also famous for continually falling asleep in the middle of her job, which is interesting because she's one of the few people you actually, it's actually better if she's asleep.

00:44:34.280 Yes.

00:44:34.680 Like, I would much rather have her just kind of sleep through all of this and maybe not even vote.

00:44:41.160 At the end, just kind of sleep through it.

00:44:44.720 Ruth, what do you want to, oh, she's out.

00:44:46.860 Yeah.

00:44:47.060 Okay.

00:44:47.480 She's asleep.

00:44:48.180 Shh.

00:44:48.420 Everybody talk about this quietly.

00:44:51.440 Soothing tones, guys.

00:44:52.680 Soothing tones.

00:44:53.760 Look, she's 85 years old.

00:44:55.320 And, you know, we talk about this a lot.

00:44:58.920 And I think social media has ruined this in some way.

00:45:02.640 I would rather have a Ruth Bader Ginsburg admitting things like that.

00:45:07.640 I'd rather have her be honest rather than what she does in the court, which is lie and act as if she cares about the constitution.

00:45:13.900 Be honest like she just was there.

00:45:15.480 You know what?

00:45:16.100 Come out and admit it.

00:45:16.840 And I think because people get beat up so badly from social media when they tweet their real opinions, people now hold them in and hide them.

00:45:25.840 I'd rather know who people are.

00:45:27.360 I'd rather know.

00:45:28.640 You know, we wind up trying to fire every comedian who makes a joke that's off color or every politician who makes a comment that doesn't work.

00:45:36.900 I'd rather have, I'd rather just judge it on its merit.

00:45:40.440 Vote them out when it comes time.

00:45:42.140 Don't watch their show if you don't like it.

00:45:43.900 Whatever the case may be.

00:45:45.040 How many times have we said, at least we respect Bernie Sanders because he admits it.

00:45:49.360 He's a socialist.

00:45:50.440 I respect this millennial in the Bronx because she admits it.

00:45:55.440 She's a democratic socialist.

00:45:56.780 You've got too many Democrats right now who are trying to pretend like they're actual Democrats when they're actually socialists.

00:46:02.620 Most of the party has become so left-wing that there's no difference between them and socialists or communists.

00:46:09.600 There's no difference.

00:46:10.240 And it's about to get a lot worse.

00:46:12.060 Yeah.

00:46:12.180 You know, when you see these high-profile kind of glamorous cases like Ocasio-Cortez in New York where you're getting a democratic socialist that admitted one who comes out and says, hey, this is what I'm doing.

00:46:24.920 I want free guaranteed jobs, free college, all of the nonsense that goes along with the democratic socialist platform that is completely unreasonable.

00:46:33.420 And you have that, not only winning, but a media glorified win, right?

00:46:41.840 They're coming to her aid and saying, what an amazing thing this is.

00:46:44.880 And as that happens, the praise will go to people like Bernie Sanders and people who supported Bernie, and you will have a democratic party that will be even unfamiliar to the one that elected Barack Obama.

00:47:00.440 I mean, we're going to find a place, you know, Barack Obama was, I think, in many ways, much further left than he led on in a normal, everyday way.

00:47:13.660 No doubt about it.

00:47:14.440 I mean, there's no doubt about that, but he at least was trying to hide it.

00:47:18.920 Now you're going to get to that point where they're coming out and just unmasking, as Glenn has said for many years.

00:47:24.360 And that's going to be, when that is the only way you can win a primary is to be a socialist, that is going to be, that's going to be an interesting world.

00:47:32.420 But I'd rather have that idea.

00:47:32.860 And I think we're almost there with the Democrats.

00:47:34.400 Yeah.

00:47:34.640 We're there.

00:47:35.660 888-727-BECK.

00:47:37.880 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:47:41.860 I don't know if you're aware of this, Stu.

00:47:44.440 Another ominous, record-breaking heat temperature has been set.

00:47:51.500 Oh, no.

00:47:52.380 Or in the words of more like Al Gore, another ominous record have been set.

00:47:59.520 The city of Curiat, Oman, hit an overnight low of 108.7 degrees on Tuesday, likely the highest minimum daily temperature recorded on Earth.

00:48:13.480 And that's ominous.

00:48:15.900 Because, I don't know, we didn't have any records before now.

00:48:19.740 There were no records.

00:48:20.500 There were no records.

00:48:21.340 It never happened.

00:48:22.280 Everything was the same until now.

00:48:25.060 And now we're starting to set records all the time.

00:48:29.920 You know what they say, records were made to be insurmountable.

00:48:32.520 That's what the...

00:48:33.480 That is what they say, isn't it?

00:48:35.880 Records were made to be insurmountable and never be broken.

00:48:38.540 And yet, it's been surmounted.

00:48:40.460 And so...

00:48:40.980 Which shows Al Gore was right.

00:48:43.040 He was right.

00:48:43.860 By the way, his last movie pretty much bombed, didn't it?

00:48:46.960 It did.

00:48:47.480 Remember?

00:48:47.960 There was a big build-up to...

00:48:48.820 I think it made $3 million or something in...

00:48:51.660 That's sad.

00:48:52.180 ...the United States.

00:48:53.440 That's sad.

00:48:54.020 People didn't want to watch Al talk about graphs anymore.

00:48:57.960 I wonder if it had anything to do with the first time he did it.

00:49:01.300 It was mostly bogus.

00:49:03.380 I wonder if that...

00:49:04.820 That doesn't make...

00:49:05.420 That is not consistent with the liberals that I know.

00:49:08.660 That they would be like, oh, well, it wasn't true last time.

00:49:10.860 I don't trust him this time.

00:49:11.860 That's not consistent with many on the left that I've run into over the years.

00:49:16.700 So what do you think it was?

00:49:17.820 Are we just not...

00:49:18.780 They're just not interested in climate change anymore?

00:49:22.480 Yeah.

00:49:23.600 I think that's part of it.

00:49:25.940 It seems like such a...

00:49:27.820 It's not the marquee attention point right now, right?

00:49:31.200 Donald Trump is.

00:49:32.140 Yep.

00:49:32.440 Right?

00:49:32.840 The thing that's exciting them right now is opposition to Donald Trump,

00:49:37.860 not 0.9 degrees over a century.

00:49:40.780 The resistance.

00:49:41.380 And, like, it shows how dumb the claim is, right?

00:49:45.700 We've talked about this for a long time.

00:49:47.680 You know, even if you believe everything that Dalgore says,

00:49:51.680 there's a lot of time and a lot of decisions and a lot of things that could happen.

00:49:55.780 For example, massive scientific advancement, right?

00:49:59.040 Where, like, there's no reason to believe that Elon Musk in five years

00:50:02.420 doesn't come up with some solar panel that solves all of these problems in a minute.

00:50:05.740 Yeah.

00:50:06.000 Right?

00:50:06.120 Like, it's just so ridiculous to think that now is the time to restrict economies by multiple

00:50:14.300 trillions of dollars globally to try to stop 0.9 degrees over a century and a little bit

00:50:21.000 more after that.

00:50:22.320 And so they...

00:50:23.440 It's just not...

00:50:24.000 It doesn't have any intensity to it, right?

00:50:26.080 Like, I think there was a time where they tried every maximalist claim to make it seem like

00:50:31.660 the worst thing was happening right now.

00:50:34.180 And it just doesn't...

00:50:35.180 It doesn't prove out, right?

00:50:37.040 Yeah.

00:50:37.560 And they have to continually hype up the hysteria around this to keep people's interest.

00:50:44.940 Like, we were talking yesterday about the...

00:50:47.700 On my show, on Pat Gray Unleashed, on the Blaze Radio TV Network, which you can listen

00:50:52.000 to immediately following this show.

00:50:54.100 Or check it out anytime on podcast.

00:50:57.380 And just download it.

00:50:58.620 You should.

00:50:59.000 Listen to it whenever you please.

00:51:00.160 Mm-hmm.

00:51:00.660 But we were talking about the Pacific Ocean Garbage Patch.

00:51:08.040 Have you heard about that?

00:51:08.560 I have heard a little bit about it.

00:51:09.840 Okay.

00:51:10.300 It is...

00:51:10.860 Is it real?

00:51:12.320 Double the size of Texas.

00:51:16.240 Two times the size of Texas.

00:51:19.360 Uh-huh.

00:51:19.800 That's pretty freaking big.

00:51:21.260 It's bigger than Alaska.

00:51:23.160 And it's out there somewhere in the middle of the ocean.

00:51:26.620 It's this big and they don't know where it is?

00:51:28.460 No.

00:51:29.440 Well, they know approximately where it is.

00:51:31.920 But strangely, there is no photo of it.

00:51:35.420 You can't find an image of the garbage patch.

00:51:37.880 This does not seem real.

00:51:38.860 So, I started looking on the internet for an image.

00:51:43.660 I wanted to see if anybody had one.

00:51:45.140 And, you know, you can find garbage in waterways in Singapore or whatever.

00:51:49.000 But you can't find this size of Texas or Alaska garbage patch in the Pacific Ocean.

00:51:56.460 You just can't find it because it doesn't exist.

00:51:58.420 And I finally found an article on Slate that said that the garbage patch is not real.

00:52:10.940 I mean, they admitted it.

00:52:12.680 It's mostly in people's minds.

00:52:15.840 And it was made up...

00:52:17.220 I wish I could find the exact quote.

00:52:18.660 I got to find this because it's amazing.

00:52:20.620 So, basically, they're saying...

00:52:21.860 It was made up to hype up global warming and climate change and catastrophe because the

00:52:30.940 oceans weren't clean enough.

00:52:32.020 And so, they had to hype up how dirty it is.

00:52:36.300 And so, in order to get people interested, they lied about how nasty this problem is.

00:52:42.540 And they just made it up.

00:52:43.360 And people continued to report it.

00:52:45.380 And he said the story got bigger as it went.

00:52:48.680 First of all, it was 3 million tons of garbage.

00:52:52.000 Then it was the size of Texas.

00:52:53.880 Then it was double the size of Texas.

00:52:56.260 Then it was the size of a continent.

00:52:59.320 I mean, so...

00:53:00.280 Unreal.

00:53:00.860 It's pretty amazing.

00:53:02.080 I'll have to try to find the article.

00:53:03.680 Yeah, that's pretty interesting.

00:53:04.720 So, are they just saying that, like, essentially, if you added up all the trash in the ocean and

00:53:08.800 you put it next to each other, it would be the size of Texas?

00:53:11.240 Is that kind of the scam?

00:53:13.700 Uh, I don't think it's even...

00:53:15.360 It's not even that big a problem.

00:53:17.820 I don't think so.

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00:54:26.760 We were talking about Al Gore and his hysteria over the fact that they had the record high,

00:54:34.400 low temperature set on Earth the other night.

00:54:37.860 The record high, low.

00:54:39.440 Yes.

00:54:39.780 It's never been hotter at night than it was the other night in the Middle East.

00:54:45.040 108 degrees.

00:54:46.200 108.7.

00:54:47.180 That's pretty warm at night.

00:54:49.120 Yeah.

00:54:50.260 You wouldn't want to keep the windows open.

00:54:52.320 Probably not.

00:54:53.280 No.

00:54:53.440 You wouldn't get an awful lot of relief from that.

00:54:55.820 So, it led us into the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, which is just an incredible shame.

00:55:03.460 Because this has been making the rounds lately.

00:55:05.600 It has.

00:55:06.300 Yeah.

00:55:06.840 Why is that?

00:55:07.500 Do you know?

00:55:07.600 It was invented a long time ago, and now, for some reason, it's resurfaced.

00:55:10.720 And I don't really know why, but you're right.

00:55:13.060 There might be an email floating around.

00:55:15.500 A lot of times, that's what prompts some of these things.

00:55:19.260 So, we got to talking about this yesterday and just looked in.

00:55:22.700 I just believed it.

00:55:23.980 I just believed that, okay, there's, you know, a garbage patch twice the size of Texas

00:55:29.340 in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

00:55:31.080 I don't know why I believed it.

00:55:32.540 I just accepted it and shouldn't have.

00:55:35.480 I found this article in Slate that is from September of 2016.

00:55:42.820 There is no island of trash in the Pacific.

00:55:45.600 But the cause of clean oceans needed a good story, and our warming plant could use another one.

00:55:50.660 I love it when they just admit, yeah, we make these things up to create the hysteria so people will listen to us.

00:55:57.760 I mean, Gore has always kind of admitted that, or at least he used to.

00:56:01.020 He used to say that you have to kind of exaggerate things to get people to move.

00:56:07.120 What would you say?

00:56:07.740 It's kind of like, to capture the public imagination, we have to offer up some scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements,

00:56:14.880 and little mention of any doubts one might have.

00:56:17.440 Each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective and being honest.

00:56:23.020 Wow.

00:56:23.380 End quote.

00:56:24.020 That's from Stephen Schneider, who is a UNIPCC report author.

00:56:29.480 Gore, this is a guy, and the UNIPCC is the thing that Gore talks about all the time.

00:56:33.720 It's like the big UN climate report they do every few years.

00:56:37.660 That is like, to me, the fundamental mission statement of environmentalism.

00:56:43.620 Let me give it to you one more time.

00:56:44.720 To capture the public imagination, we have to offer up some scary scenarios,

00:56:49.620 make simplified dramatic statements, and little mention of any doubts one might have.

00:56:55.280 Each of us has to decide the right balance of being effective and being honest.

00:57:00.380 I mean, that is the most crystal clear, most honest thing you've ever heard from an environmentalist.

00:57:06.760 Yeah.

00:57:07.320 And that was made in 1989 by Stephen Schneider, who wound up to become a, he was at Stanford, I believe,

00:57:16.360 and he wound up being a UNIPCC author, as I mentioned, was a lead environmentalist until he died in 2010.

00:57:23.440 He made that statement long before we had Al Gore-esque debates.

00:57:28.500 He just, I, he, this is basically the environmentalist constitution.

00:57:33.860 It's that, that is exactly how, because it's not as if every one of their claims has no evidence as this garbage patch does.

00:57:41.120 Like, for example, the garbage patch is a good example of it.

00:57:43.500 Garbage patch, is there trash in the ocean?

00:57:45.840 Yeah.

00:57:46.420 Is there more than we'd like?

00:57:47.700 Sure.

00:57:48.720 Is there one that's twice the size of Texas?

00:57:51.740 No.

00:57:51.980 Not even close.

00:57:52.480 No.

00:57:53.020 And is it a real problem?

00:57:54.620 I mean, it's highly debatable as, as to whether it's an actual real problem.

00:57:58.980 I mean, this is a mass, it's a lot of water out there.

00:58:02.000 Yeah.

00:58:02.420 And so you won't, you don't want any trash in there.

00:58:04.220 We'd like to clean it up.

00:58:05.180 There are problems associated with it, but it's not this mega disaster that they try to make it out to be.

00:58:10.460 So to, to capture, to capture the public imagination, they made scary scenarios and simplified dramatic statements.

00:58:19.420 There's a giant, two times the size of Texas floating in the middle of the ocean somewhere in the Pacific.

00:58:25.460 Right?

00:58:25.860 Yeah.

00:58:26.080 That's how bad things are.

00:58:28.040 I mean, I was kind of convinced, and I thought, well, okay, how did it all end up in one place?

00:58:34.580 I guess the ocean current?

00:58:37.020 Right.

00:58:37.140 Because you could see that if you've ever looked, been in a lake, right, where maybe, you know, there's like party boats that go out in the lake and people occasionally throw cans off the side.

00:58:47.040 You'll see them collect in one area of the lake sometimes.

00:58:50.020 You know what I mean?

00:58:50.280 Something like that, where like the, the, the, the current or the, the motion of the boats, they create a little, some waves and they push all the garbage into kind of one area.

00:58:59.220 Everybody's seen that.

00:59:00.440 So in your mind, you're thinking, well, maybe that happens in the Pacific ocean.

00:59:04.280 That's just a giant, like, do people have to route around it?

00:59:08.300 I mean, imagine as you're going towards the giant, two times the size of Texas garbage barge in the middle of the Pacific.

00:59:16.180 That's a lot of garbage.

00:59:17.580 A lot of extra time to traverse it.

00:59:19.900 That would make for quite a photo.

00:59:22.400 And to think that there isn't one on the internet that you can find is pretty amazing.

00:59:27.320 It's a good example, too, of how technology has solved a lot of these problems because there would be a photo.

00:59:31.720 You have a drone.

00:59:32.680 There have to be.

00:59:33.220 Over there.

00:59:33.900 A satellite.

00:59:34.600 Yeah.

00:59:34.900 Some kind of photo.

00:59:36.000 A plane.

00:59:36.720 You take a snap of that from somewhere and you wouldn't be able to get it all in one photo, but still, maybe from a satellite you could.

00:59:44.800 But when you go and search for the images and you can't find any, that should tell you something.

00:59:53.860 And it does.

00:59:54.600 And that's why I was so surprised to find this honesty in Slate.

00:59:58.480 The author writes,

01:00:00.480 It's a throwback to the time when environmental threats were made of solid things.

01:00:14.580 Empty bottles, fishing nets, nuclear waste, canisters of slime that could be gathered up and buried or incinerated.

01:00:20.400 In a way, that's the very problem with the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.

01:00:25.660 That's the problem it helped to solve when the concept was invented.

01:00:31.000 Like its mirror image, the hole in the ozone layer.

01:00:35.060 Wait, what?

01:00:36.160 Like it.

01:00:37.100 I like that.

01:00:38.400 Like its mirror image, the hole in the ozone layer, which he's admitting also kind of didn't exist.

01:00:45.540 It's amazing.

01:00:46.460 Isn't that?

01:00:47.140 It's crazy.

01:00:48.240 And I was a kid in that era.

01:00:49.740 When was that?

01:00:50.460 That was the 80s, right?

01:00:51.320 Yeah.

01:00:51.460 When they were talking about that.

01:00:52.580 Yeah.

01:00:52.800 And I remember thinking.

01:00:53.600 That was a big deal for a while.

01:00:54.800 It was just real.

01:00:55.760 We were all going to burn up with cancer.

01:00:57.160 Yeah.

01:00:57.480 Because of the hole in the ozone layer.

01:00:59.780 And then it fixed itself.

01:01:02.640 And then another hole appeared and it fixed itself.

01:01:06.080 Well, the Montreal Protocol, of course, was important in that.

01:01:10.240 Montreal Protocol.

01:01:11.300 But still, I mean like.

01:01:12.160 It's when we stopped using canisters of.

01:01:15.520 You know, this is what is so frustrating about these environmental debates, though.

01:01:19.740 They act as if, you know, it's one of those things is like, well, I, you know, it's like,

01:01:24.740 it's like going to someone and saying, hey, I, you know, I just saw what you ate.

01:01:29.000 And if you keep doing that, you know, that's going to, you're going to be 500 pounds.

01:01:32.640 Well, it's Thanksgiving.

01:01:35.080 Like, I eat that way on Thanksgiving, then I don't eat that way other days.

01:01:38.740 So when you realize if there's a major problem, which has happened at times, I mean, go back

01:01:43.460 and look at like Pittsburgh, you know, in history when it was just a giant cloud of smoke.

01:01:49.200 Over times when civilizations become more advanced and most importantly, more wealthy, they start

01:01:55.960 caring about things like environmentalism.

01:01:57.900 You don't care about it.

01:01:59.420 You know, who doesn't care about those things are people who can't eat.

01:02:03.060 Right.

01:02:03.560 It's when you get to a point where you, it becomes a luxury problem.

01:02:08.940 Yeah.

01:02:09.480 And you have enough food.

01:02:11.100 So now you can focus on something else, something else.

01:02:13.180 And those, some of those things are really important, but they're not imminent all the

01:02:18.140 time.

01:02:18.400 And that's why they have to use the, the phrasing we talked about, scary scenarios, make

01:02:22.880 it seem simple.

01:02:23.520 Don't act as if we have any doubt because then people won't jump on board.

01:02:27.860 That's why they always call it settled science.

01:02:30.480 It's a subtle debate.

01:02:32.240 There's consensus when there's nothing like consensus.

01:02:35.080 We just had a list of, I don't know, 36,000 or something scientists who are not on board

01:02:41.080 with it, at least not on board with catastrophic man caused climate change.

01:02:47.480 Many of them believe that the earth is warmed somewhat.

01:02:50.420 The question is why, and, and is that just part of the normal process of the planet?

01:02:57.480 And of course it is because it happens all the time.

01:02:59.400 Yeah.

01:02:59.500 And there's multiple levels to the whole claim.

01:03:01.220 And this is why they try to generalize it all.

01:03:03.960 You don't believe, if you don't agree with Al Gore, you're a science denier.

01:03:07.060 Yeah.

01:03:07.340 But the Al Gore position and anyone on the left's position here is multifaceted.

01:03:13.000 It's not just, it has the earth warmed.

01:03:14.820 Is the earth warmed and is it caused not, is it caused by man?

01:03:18.320 Not only is it caused by man, but is it almost entirely caused by man?

01:03:22.400 And not only is it entirely caused by man, but will it run out of control and become

01:03:25.400 a catastrophic situation?

01:03:26.760 And not only does it run out of control and be a catastrophic situation, but do you agree

01:03:30.760 with these policies to stop it, which is large amounts of government control?

01:03:34.360 And the answer to all those questions has to be yes, or you're a climate denier.

01:03:37.740 All of them.

01:03:38.720 You can't just like, like, let's just say you're Elon Musk.

01:03:41.240 Okay.

01:03:41.480 I'm throwing this out here because he is very much on the global warming bandwagon, but

01:03:44.900 let's say you're Elon Musk and he goes down the bandwagon.

01:03:47.760 He believes, yes, it's warmed.

01:03:49.740 Yes, it's manmade.

01:03:50.940 Yes, it's entirely manmade.

01:03:52.580 Yes, it's catastrophic.

01:03:53.900 But the way we're going to solve that is I'm going to create a solar panel company and

01:03:57.100 I'm going to change the world with innovation.

01:03:58.800 That's a global warming denier position.

01:04:00.780 If he were to believe it, he also believes in government intervention, so he's okay.

01:04:04.560 But if he just believed, if he was a Koch brother and he said, you know what, I'm going

01:04:08.620 to create a company that's going to solve this without one dime of government funding

01:04:12.320 or government regulation.

01:04:14.020 Don't change regulations.

01:04:15.520 Don't do this.

01:04:16.640 Let me solve it.

01:04:17.900 That person would be a denier.

01:04:19.920 He'd be out for profit.

01:04:21.380 He'd be an enemy of the state because this is all about government control.

01:04:25.700 It's not about the environment.

01:04:27.840 It isn't.

01:04:28.880 And of course, there are some crazy people who go really far on these things.

01:04:32.620 I was just going back as I was finding that environmental constitution that we just kind

01:04:38.340 of went over from Steven Schneider about making false claims.

01:04:41.600 Yeah.

01:04:42.040 I found that in an inconvenient book, one of Glenn's first, I think it was his first number

01:04:48.920 one bestseller.

01:04:50.440 And in there are a bunch of great quotes.

01:04:53.880 There's a section called environmentalists say the darndest things.

01:04:56.560 And that's one, the one quote I read a minute ago is one of them, but listen to some of

01:05:00.600 these.

01:05:00.780 He's so classic.

01:05:02.700 Dave Foreman, the founder of Earth First said, phasing out the human race will solve every

01:05:08.500 problem on Earth, social and environmental.

01:05:12.220 It does create one additional problem I can think of, which is no one's there to enjoy the

01:05:17.400 paradise.

01:05:19.140 Jacques Chirac.

01:05:20.180 Remember him?

01:05:21.100 President of France?

01:05:22.260 Oh yeah.

01:05:22.580 He was talking about the Kyoto Protocol, which was the first thing, you know, that was supposed

01:05:26.480 to, you know, be the way that we stopped global warming, which we didn't sign on to.

01:05:31.580 We didn't sign on to.

01:05:32.420 Al Gore.

01:05:33.080 Thank goodness.

01:05:33.520 Didn't.

01:05:34.020 The Senate voted it down like 98 to nothing.

01:05:37.360 But he said Kyoto is the first component of an authentic global governance.

01:05:43.480 Wow.

01:05:44.140 Wow.

01:05:45.000 How about, this is a classic, Paul Ehrlich, who is one of my favorites.

01:05:50.600 I would take this, he said this in 1969.

01:05:53.380 Ehrlich was maybe one of the worst.

01:05:55.520 He was really one of the worst.

01:05:56.360 Yeah.

01:05:56.820 But one of the most famous and was embraced by the environmental movement in his whole

01:06:01.040 life.

01:06:01.180 Very successful, very respected, except by those who pay attention to what he said

01:06:04.480 then and what happened.

01:06:05.980 Because this is not some crazy person.

01:06:08.520 This is someone who is a well-respected scientist and embraced by environmentalists.

01:06:12.660 He said in 1969, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.

01:06:18.160 That's a solid one.

01:06:21.940 And of course, I've missed England for these last 18 years.

01:06:25.260 It's been rough without it.

01:06:26.020 Yeah, it's been tough.

01:06:26.840 It's been tough.

01:06:27.220 I mean, look at Brexit.

01:06:28.140 It's showing that this is real.

01:06:30.640 It's actually, England seems to be coming back to life and taking its own independence.

01:06:35.080 Kind of.

01:06:35.700 Yeah.

01:06:35.820 How about in 10 years, all important animal life in the sea will be extinct.

01:06:44.200 He said this in 1970, by the way.

01:06:46.100 Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated.

01:06:47.840 Yeah, but if he would have said that this year, I'd really be scared.

01:06:51.080 Yeah.

01:06:51.540 Of course, I don't think he's alive anymore.

01:06:52.880 I don't think he is alive anymore.

01:06:54.160 Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.

01:06:58.760 He said that in 1970.

01:07:03.120 1978.

01:07:04.260 Again, think of the motivation behind this.

01:07:06.520 What do we want with energy?

01:07:07.580 We want people to be able to do what they want to do.

01:07:09.440 Air conditioning, all the amenities of life, not just for pleasure, but also for survival

01:07:13.960 and civilization.

01:07:15.140 He said, giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child

01:07:21.040 a machine gun.

01:07:22.480 Said that in 1978.

01:07:24.020 Unbelievable.

01:07:24.860 Again, well-respected.

01:07:26.460 Yeah.

01:07:26.740 Not just some lunatic.

01:07:27.860 And wrong on everything.

01:07:29.380 Absolutely everything.

01:07:31.220 Prince Philip from the World Wildlife Federation.

01:07:35.720 If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower

01:07:40.920 human population levels.

01:07:42.980 These are quotes.

01:07:44.120 I mean, geez.

01:07:46.220 George Monbiot.

01:07:48.460 Monbiot.

01:07:49.000 I can never think of his husband.

01:07:50.240 I'm going to pronounce his last name.

01:07:51.500 He was an environmental author.

01:07:52.800 In 2006, he said, every time someone dies as a result of floods in Bangladesh, an airline

01:07:57.500 executive should be dragged out of his office and drowned.

01:08:02.320 I mean, these people.

01:08:03.440 Wow.

01:08:04.520 Helen Caldecott from the Union of Concerned Scientists.

01:08:07.400 Union of Concerned Scientists is a great group because they will constantly, they're the

01:08:10.080 ones that get these nice high-profile articles.

01:08:12.380 Yeah.

01:08:12.500 They'll release like, did you know that having one diet soda every 16 years will kill everyone

01:08:17.640 in your family?

01:08:18.580 They're those people.

01:08:19.400 People, everything is going to kill you.

01:08:21.500 Every, every, you know, anytime a company does something, you're going to die.

01:08:25.880 And here is the motivation behind it.

01:08:28.400 Quote, free enterprise really means rich people getting richer.

01:08:31.800 They have the freedom to exploit and psychologically rape their fellow human beings in the process.

01:08:36.940 Capitalism is destroying the Earth.

01:08:39.780 Again, it's not, it's not just about the environment.

01:08:42.260 It's about destroying capitalism.

01:08:43.240 Yeah, because the green movement is the new communism.

01:08:46.920 It just is.

01:08:48.260 And some of them even admit that.

01:08:50.520 Yeah.

01:08:50.820 And this one is the most, in some ways, the worst.

01:08:53.320 This is from Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund.

01:08:55.880 The only hope for the world is to make sure that there is not another United States.

01:09:00.820 We can't let countries that have the same amount of cars, same amount of industrialization

01:09:05.700 that we have in the U.S.

01:09:06.620 We have to stop these third world countries right where they are.

01:09:12.020 I mean, what a, what a.

01:09:13.580 Racist.

01:09:14.280 Yeah.

01:09:14.940 I mean, think about that.

01:09:15.980 Wow.

01:09:16.440 These are people who are trying to live.

01:09:17.840 I mean, that's true.

01:09:18.540 Racism right there.

01:09:19.340 Yeah.

01:09:19.740 That's amazing.

01:09:20.440 And you remember this Earth Day claim a few years ago?

01:09:23.120 The world is using the equivalent of one and a half planets to support life on Earth.

01:09:28.360 Wait, what?

01:09:29.840 What other planet have we used half of?

01:09:33.220 I didn't remember borrowing half of another planet.

01:09:38.640 888-900.

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01:10:13.060 You can also listen to my show, Pat Gray Unleashed, which immediately follows this on the Blaze Radio and TV network.

01:10:18.560 And, of course, Stu and I will be back, not tomorrow because it's 4th of July, but Thursday together.

01:10:23.060 And then I'll be doing the show on Friday.

01:10:25.360 And then Glenn will be back next week.

01:10:27.660 And I think you're gone, aren't you?

01:10:29.300 Are you going somewhere?

01:10:30.240 Yeah, I got a couple weeks off.

01:10:31.420 I'm excited about it.

01:10:32.320 Are you going anywhere?

01:10:33.600 Going to see the family up in Connecticut.

01:10:36.280 Oh, okay.

01:10:36.800 For a little...

01:10:38.100 Should be a little cooler.

01:10:39.060 Family vacation, which will be very nice.

01:10:41.320 And my mom's coming in to visit for a couple days.

01:10:43.700 It's going to be fun.

01:10:44.640 Oh, that'd be nice.

01:10:45.400 Yeah.

01:10:45.780 That'd be nice.

01:10:46.360 You know, a little family time.

01:10:47.540 Uh-huh.

01:10:48.040 A little family time.

01:10:48.880 So I'm excited about it.

01:10:49.620 Okay.

01:10:50.040 Apparently, Timothy Geithner is back in the news.

01:10:54.460 And it's been so long since he's been in the news, I didn't even remember his last name.

01:10:58.980 Yeah, you might remember him from the early Obama days.

01:11:01.320 Secretary of Treasury.

01:11:03.000 Yes.

01:11:03.460 And he was...

01:11:04.680 He...

01:11:05.520 One of the big issues with him is he used TurboTax.

01:11:08.500 He blamed TurboTax for his tax problems.

01:11:10.540 Oh, that's right.

01:11:11.200 Yeah.

01:11:11.420 Everyone's like, wait a minute.

01:11:12.240 You can't have tax problems.

01:11:13.880 And you're going to be the Secretary of the Treasury.

01:11:15.200 You need to be able to pay your taxes.

01:11:16.760 Yeah.

01:11:17.560 Well, he is back in the news and he's got a new business he's been working on.

01:11:22.040 Okay.

01:11:22.600 It's very exciting.

01:11:23.740 What's he doing?

01:11:24.440 Well, he's...

01:11:24.960 You know how giving the Obama administration was.

01:11:27.780 I was solving all of our problems.

01:11:29.220 Well, Obama phones.

01:11:30.120 Oh, yeah.

01:11:30.440 Obama phones, right?

01:11:31.220 Yeah.

01:11:31.640 So this is...

01:11:32.200 He's kind of doing that.

01:11:33.120 Obama cash.

01:11:33.420 Obama phones.

01:11:34.180 Obama cash.

01:11:34.760 Yeah.

01:11:35.480 He's basically doing that.

01:11:36.840 It's now Geithner cash, though.

01:11:38.960 So what...

01:11:39.400 Geithner's apparently running a business.

01:11:41.800 This is amazing.

01:11:42.640 I didn't know this type of business existed.

01:11:44.820 It doesn't seem on its face to be a good business.

01:11:47.340 What they're doing is the business is they send checks to poor people.

01:11:54.220 Oh, well, that seems nice.

01:11:56.500 They just send them free money?

01:11:58.120 Yeah, but it doesn't seem like it's a good business.

01:12:00.600 It seems nice, but it doesn't seem like a good business, right?

01:12:03.560 No, it seems like you'd go broke doing that.

01:12:05.160 Well, not if you do it this way.

01:12:07.820 What they're doing is they're sending checks to poor people.

01:12:11.120 Okay.

01:12:11.760 And when they receive the checks, they deposit those checks.

01:12:14.560 I mean, are they big checks or like a dollar?

01:12:17.260 $1,200, $2,000.

01:12:20.240 No.

01:12:20.760 Wow.

01:12:21.200 Some good chunk of cash if you're like on the brink, right?

01:12:24.280 Okay.

01:12:24.500 Maybe you've got a car repair that's just happened.

01:12:26.180 That's one of the stories they highlight here in the Washington Post today.

01:12:30.240 And what is the check?

01:12:31.040 Is there something that accompanies it that says, hey, here's a check from Timothy Geithner

01:12:36.240 just because we really like you and we heard you're not doing well?

01:12:39.260 You seem nice.

01:12:40.260 Uh-huh.

01:12:41.160 I mean, I don't know you, but it seems like you might be nice because you're a low-income

01:12:44.800 person and low-income people are generally nice.

01:12:47.820 Yeah, generally nice.

01:12:48.880 We, yeah.

01:12:49.280 So, here's some money.

01:12:50.640 We know you're not one of those evil rich CEOs.

01:12:52.820 Yeah.

01:12:52.940 Which those people are all bastards.

01:12:54.140 Oh my gosh, you know that's true.

01:12:55.340 I hate them.

01:12:55.980 No, that's true.

01:12:56.680 I hate those people.

01:12:57.660 The Koch brothers?

01:12:58.520 Oh.

01:12:59.140 Nobody more evil.

01:13:00.020 You know how many Koch brothers there are?

01:13:01.080 They have a thousand brothers in that family.

01:13:02.840 Wow.

01:13:03.140 They're all trillionaires.

01:13:04.620 Wow.

01:13:05.120 It's true.

01:13:05.660 Well, they've got all of the world's wealth right in that family.

01:13:09.600 Yeah.

01:13:09.940 All of it.

01:13:10.560 Nobody else has any wealth.

01:13:12.240 Right.

01:13:12.840 That's true.

01:13:13.600 And they all, by the way, my favorite observation on the Koch brothers is there's really only two

01:13:18.140 of them.

01:13:19.040 And one of them just retired, by the way.

01:13:20.560 And they're both somewhat left of center.

01:13:23.140 Yeah.

01:13:23.680 Generally speaking on social issues.

01:13:25.460 They're libertarian leaning, although they seem to have an affinity for certain tax increases

01:13:29.580 and strange things like that.

01:13:30.720 But they're very, like, open borders.

01:13:32.560 And while climate change has been pinned on them, at least one of them agrees with climate

01:13:37.020 change.

01:13:37.300 Yeah.

01:13:37.680 Believes in climate change.

01:13:39.040 But what's interesting is, like, they're adults.

01:13:41.640 Mm-hmm.

01:13:41.940 Okay?

01:13:42.320 When you're an adult, you don't become the blank brothers anymore.

01:13:47.400 Right?

01:13:47.900 Yeah.

01:13:48.660 You're just, you're two individuals.

01:13:50.640 There's Charles and David, right?

01:13:53.240 Yeah.

01:13:53.720 And so they, not only, I understand that they kind of, like, ran this business together

01:13:58.720 so they had similar levels of wealth, which would make sense.

01:14:01.920 But if you look at them being listed, they'll just say they have the exact same amount of

01:14:05.960 money.

01:14:06.220 It's like they both have, like, $24 billion or something.

01:14:09.040 It's like, none of them made a different choice to, like, buy a truck when the other

01:14:13.220 one didn't.

01:14:13.680 There was never a time when one went out to dinner and spent a lot and the other didn't.

01:14:18.320 There was never a moment where one invested in something that didn't go right and the

01:14:22.120 other invested in something that worked.

01:14:23.740 There's never been any separation.

01:14:25.420 They all, they have the exact same accounts.

01:14:27.480 Exact same.

01:14:27.920 Yeah.

01:14:28.220 That's always amazed me.

01:14:29.060 Forever.

01:14:29.600 So anyway, Tim Geithner is not at that level.

01:14:31.200 But there's only two of them?

01:14:32.820 Because I thought there was, okay, there's Charles, there's David, Tito, Marlon, and Jermaine.

01:14:37.620 No, I think you have that.

01:14:38.540 Right?

01:14:38.840 I think it might have something else confused there.

01:14:40.940 Okay, maybe I'll look into that.

01:14:42.060 We'll walk you through that in a minute.

01:14:43.120 Tim Geithner, though, is not that rich.

01:14:45.020 And he does not have a brother named Marlon.

01:14:47.100 Okay.

01:14:47.800 He does have this company, however, in which, so they send checks to poor people.

01:14:52.140 Legitimately, that's what they do.

01:14:53.140 So that people take the check and they deposit in their bank account.

01:14:56.480 And all of a sudden, they have an extra $1,200 or $2,000.

01:14:59.280 Now, of course, there's a level of you that would say, is there a string attached to this?

01:15:03.720 You know, that's how I would think about it.

01:15:05.800 And some of the people they highlight actually did notice that.

01:15:09.180 But the string attached is, it's not just free money.

01:15:11.540 It's a loan.

01:15:12.780 So when you deposit the check, you're agreeing to a loan.

01:15:16.260 The loan, the terms of that loan are interesting.

01:15:20.260 For example, Stephen Huggins received the check for a loan for $1,200.

01:15:26.840 And he didn't want to deposit it at first because he actually realized, okay, this doesn't look right.

01:15:30.740 He thought there's a string attached.

01:15:32.220 The interest rate, 33%.

01:15:35.920 Whoa.

01:15:37.260 Wow.

01:15:37.860 33% annual interest rate.

01:15:39.260 But his Chevy pickup was in the shop.

01:15:41.760 He didn't have enough money to pay for the repairs.

01:15:43.240 So he needed the money.

01:15:44.340 He decided to use the check.

01:15:47.260 He got $1,200 from the company, plus an additional $800 from a representative later on.

01:15:55.220 Hundreds of dollars in processing fees, insurance, and other items, plus interest.

01:16:00.880 He's now up to $3,221 that he owes them.

01:16:05.920 For a $1,200 loan?

01:16:07.300 For the $2,000, I guess, total he got.

01:16:09.300 So he's up to $3,200.

01:16:10.620 Jeez.

01:16:11.000 And now he is being sued because he's not paying it back, I guess, fast enough.

01:16:17.680 And so this is the way, what they're doing, because they've now added an extra $536 for extra fees that he's had to do to fight this.

01:16:29.300 And this finance company is going after, they're now saying it's an $11.2 billion private equity fund that is at the charge of this.

01:16:38.480 The president is, of course, Timothy Geithner, who is now, they operate 450 branches in 22 states.

01:16:46.520 And their business is sending these high-interest loans to people who, in their worst moments, have to use them.

01:16:55.280 And at 33%, now look, I am not a believer.

01:16:57.660 You know, we've heard about predatory lenders.

01:16:59.680 Exactly, yeah.

01:17:00.580 That's the very definition of a predatory lender.

01:17:04.680 Yes.

01:17:04.960 Now, of course, these people can make choices, right?

01:17:07.660 And to be, I've never liked the term predatory lending.

01:17:10.800 But it is in fine print that most people aren't reading.

01:17:15.760 And just, at the very least, it's a disingenuous business practice.

01:17:20.120 I don't have any problem.

01:17:20.920 Like, people used to be like, oh, check cashing stores are the devil.

01:17:23.480 Like, you know, well, a check cashing store is okay for certain people who need it, right?

01:17:28.100 There's a market of people who can benefit from a check cashing store.

01:17:31.320 Sure.

01:17:31.680 And you know what?

01:17:32.920 If you agree to the terms, you agree to the terms.

01:17:35.900 You don't have to go.

01:17:37.680 You agree to the terms, you agree to the terms.

01:17:39.500 That's the way these things work.

01:17:40.620 They're voluntary transactions.

01:17:43.600 And at times, however, some of these companies take advantage of people who might not be reading fine print,

01:17:49.560 or maybe not understanding it, and making giant profits on it.

01:17:53.720 And now, the Obama administration has a nice representative running one of these situations.

01:18:00.560 Geithner, um...

01:18:02.000 Is there any explanation from him on how he can live with himself doing this to people?

01:18:07.500 Especially people who can least afford it.

01:18:09.820 Well, this is the thing, Pat.

01:18:12.820 As Treasury Secretary, Geithner excoriated predatory lenders.

01:18:16.460 Yes.

01:18:16.920 And their role in the Wall Street meltdown of 2007.

01:18:19.760 The financial...

01:18:20.440 Quote,

01:18:20.800 The financial crisis exposed our system of consumer protection as a dysfunctional mess, leaving ordinary Americans way too vulnerable to fraud and other malfeasance.

01:18:29.580 Many borrowers, especially in subprime markets, jeez, this guy, bid off more than they could chew because they didn't understand the absurdly complex and opaque terms of their financial agreements, or were actively channeled into the riskiest deals.

01:18:46.520 Wow.

01:18:46.860 You mean a risky deal like getting a check in the mail on a 33% loan?

01:18:51.320 Could that be a risky deal?

01:18:53.860 I mean, that is...

01:18:55.420 That's despicable.

01:18:56.800 I mean, if it was the evil Koch brothers doing something like this, they might have an argument to say,

01:19:02.260 look, the terms are disclosed, maybe you think we should write them in larger font, but these people make the choice to take the money.

01:19:09.460 And that'd be the lead story on every broadcast on CNN and MSNBC.

01:19:13.380 To be fair, this is the Washington Post with an extensive analysis, and they really dove into this.

01:19:20.100 Now, look, I don't know what beating up on Tim Geithner does for the political discussion at this moment.

01:19:24.760 But now, because now he's a capitalist, and now it's okay to go after him.

01:19:28.100 It wasn't okay to go after him when he was using TurboTax.

01:19:30.740 It wasn't okay to go after him when he was in the Obama administration and making the arguments about how evil predatory lending was.

01:19:36.380 Now that he's out of there and he's a businessman, I guess you can go after him.

01:19:39.320 But that being said, give credit to the Washington Post here for actually doing a little bit of work and exposing, I think,

01:19:46.100 I don't know if it's anything illegal, but something really hypocritical.

01:19:48.760 Unethical, anyway.

01:19:49.940 Hypocritical, sure.

01:19:50.620 You know who has a better idea to help the poor is Richard Branson.

01:19:56.840 Oh, really?

01:19:57.240 Yeah.

01:19:57.520 He's got a great solution to poor people, and that's to send them free money.

01:20:02.320 Just give them free money.

01:20:03.340 Not from Tim Geithner, but from the government.

01:20:07.060 And the government just has a wellspring of money, and I don't know where it comes from.

01:20:11.180 They've just got so much money, and they just give it to people.

01:20:13.640 So that's great.

01:20:14.620 So this is a good idea.

01:20:15.400 Is that the group that prints those green pieces of paper with the presidents on them?

01:20:20.620 Yeah.

01:20:21.120 Yeah, those are really cool.

01:20:22.080 Those are cool.

01:20:22.540 Have you used those?

01:20:23.140 And they can keep doing that over and over and over.

01:20:26.340 You just print it and give it to people.

01:20:27.580 As long as they have paper.

01:20:28.880 Yeah.

01:20:29.220 They have to get paper.

01:20:30.180 You do have to have paper.

01:20:30.900 That's why the environment is so important, to keep trees available for us to print money.

01:20:36.580 So he's also another guy that's on the basic income.

01:20:40.840 You just get a basic income bandwagon.

01:20:43.900 Oh, jeez.

01:20:44.900 This is already failed.

01:20:46.380 This thing is really becoming prevalent, though.

01:20:48.300 There's a lot of talk of it.

01:20:49.300 Yeah, they failed.

01:20:50.180 Was it Finland or Denmark?

01:20:51.760 Finland.

01:20:52.240 It was Finland that did it, and they have abandoned the transaction.

01:20:55.540 It was amazing.

01:20:56.560 There's a podcast that featured this, maybe 99% Invisible, I think it was, maybe.

01:21:02.560 And they did a whole thing on universal basic income.

01:21:05.120 First of all, did you know that Nixon advocated for this?

01:21:08.220 Yes.

01:21:08.780 Which is kind of amazing.

01:21:09.620 I mean, Nixon, the ultimate Republican, huge conservative that not only wanted universal basic income and experimented with it in the United States, by the way, but also wanted to ban all handguns.

01:21:22.880 So, but other than that, we're a real hardcore conservative there.

01:21:26.020 That's one of those guys that just, he becomes a conservative after the scandal, right?

01:21:30.440 Like, you know, he was seen as mean.

01:21:32.500 And look, he was a Republican as opposed to a Democrat.

01:21:34.760 He was more conservative than some people in the country, obviously.

01:21:37.520 But the idea that he was some ideological conservative is insane.

01:21:40.760 He was a progressive Republican.

01:21:43.140 Big time.

01:21:43.880 So, anyway, he wanted to do that.

01:21:45.720 Finland decided to try to do it, and they had that interview with a woman who was on the basic income giveaway from the Finnish government.

01:21:56.280 And it was interesting what they decided to do.

01:21:58.340 They didn't, they, you know, the idea here and the concept of the podcast was to say, what a wonderful way to design policy.

01:22:05.400 Instead of going out and just, like, passing, let's say, Obamacare.

01:22:09.100 They didn't, certainly didn't use that as an example, but just use it for a reason.

01:22:11.760 You pass Obamacare.

01:22:13.060 What they say is, all right, like, try things.

01:22:16.900 Give, you know, maybe you, you try Obamacare in one community.

01:22:20.680 Maybe you try it over, you know, 10,000 people spread across the country.

01:22:24.580 And that's what Finland decided to do.

01:22:25.900 They essentially did a lottery.

01:22:27.380 And in a way, a real lottery in which they gave away money as universal basic income to a bunch of people.

01:22:33.580 And I think it was just a few thousand.

01:22:35.400 It was a few thousand people.

01:22:36.740 So they interviewed one of them on this podcast.

01:22:38.720 And she's like, you know, I just, I haven't had, been able to get a job.

01:22:42.260 And, you know, it's been really tough.

01:22:43.720 And I just find myself constantly struggling to do the basic things.

01:22:47.700 And now universal basic income has come in and it's, and I get these checks every month.

01:22:52.020 And now I don't have to worry about those things.

01:22:53.440 I'm able to focus on, instead of just scrambling every month to make my bills,

01:22:57.880 I am able to focus on things that are more productive and spend time with my family and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:23:05.900 Yeah.

01:23:06.260 If you listen to the whole thing at the very end, you find out that she still hasn't gotten, she hasn't been able to get a job.

01:23:11.660 So it has, the idea was, okay, if you take the struggles of the everyday out of these people's lives,

01:23:17.760 they'll be able to focus on more important things.

01:23:19.420 They'll be able to get a job.

01:23:20.500 They'll be able to hold out for something that's a little bit better.

01:23:23.500 And that's exactly what she wound up doing because all of her bills are paid.

01:23:26.680 She held out for something better and nothing ever came along.

01:23:29.280 She didn't take the day-to-day work because she didn't need the day-to-day work anymore.

01:23:34.040 She just did nothing.

01:23:36.140 Now she enjoyed her life a lot more.

01:23:38.180 I'm sure.

01:23:38.880 Wouldn't you?

01:23:39.820 If you didn't have to come in here and blab every day, wouldn't that be fantastic?

01:23:42.280 You just sit at home, all your bills are paid?

01:23:43.860 Yep.

01:23:44.280 That'd be great.

01:23:45.080 Yes, it would.

01:23:45.720 Now the society falls apart when you do that with everybody.

01:23:50.320 As Ben Franklin said, people should be made to be uncomfortable in their poverty.

01:23:54.280 Ben Franklin was pretty smart, wasn't he?

01:23:55.840 Yeah, smart guy.

01:23:56.560 Yeah, there was a reason for it.

01:23:57.980 Because if they're comfortable in their poverty, just keep taking what you give them.

01:24:01.860 Yeah.

01:24:02.780 888-727-BECK.

01:24:04.420 More of Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program coming up.

01:24:10.260 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

01:24:12.460 Looks like Bono is upset.

01:24:15.620 And he doesn't really direct this toward anybody, but you kind of get the impression he's talking about Donald Trump.

01:24:22.840 He is saying that the United Nations and other international institutions,

01:24:27.700 including the European Union and NATO, are now under threat.

01:24:33.980 Good.

01:24:35.920 Good.

01:24:36.680 Now that's not good to Bono because he thinks these are all, let's get together and be peaceful and loving to one another.

01:24:43.140 And we can all talk about it at this wonderful organization.

01:24:45.520 The UN needs to fold or be taken.

01:24:49.720 Just push it off this continent.

01:24:51.540 Get rid of the UN in the U.S.

01:24:54.200 And get us out of the UN and let them go do whatever they want in Belgium.

01:24:58.820 I don't care.

01:25:00.660 Headquarter NATO and the UN in Brussels.

01:25:04.520 I'm fine with that.

01:25:05.560 And then we're not part of either one of them.

01:25:07.500 We should get out of all these organizations.

01:25:10.280 Yeah.

01:25:10.540 It's very odd.

01:25:11.280 I mean, I don't know.

01:25:13.520 I mean, NATO, I have a stronger affinity to than the UN.

01:25:17.200 I mean, the UN, I see no value in at this point.

01:25:19.560 None.

01:25:20.140 None.

01:25:21.240 I mean, not to mention we pay, obviously, for the whole thing, basically.

01:25:23.720 But, you know, NATO is still as a, you know, I like, you know, NATO generally in that, you know, there is a, there's some value in a, you know, united front of, you know.

01:25:38.120 The North Atlantic nations who aren't necessarily in the North Atlantic.

01:25:42.500 Not at all.

01:25:43.220 But, like, you know, similar thinking principled nations that stand together.

01:25:46.940 I like that, especially when it comes to defense in that you like the idea that there's some, some alliance there.

01:25:56.560 However, lots of asterisks to that.

01:26:00.040 It doesn't seem to operate correctly.

01:26:02.020 You know, I mean, certainly there's very limited benefit for us.

01:26:06.480 It's really more of a, it's something we owe, right?

01:26:12.360 It's like, well, hey, some Baltic state just got attacked.

01:26:14.940 We need to step in.

01:26:15.540 Now we got, yeah.

01:26:16.040 Right, like, that's really the function of it.

01:26:17.820 Like, there's not, it's not like, you know, Lithuania is going to jump in.

01:26:21.000 I don't know if Lithuania is even in it.

01:26:22.440 But, like, you know, it's like, there's not going to be, people aren't going to be jumping to our defense if we get attacked in any meaningful way.

01:26:29.380 No.

01:26:30.020 But there are, there are international norms that have, you know, helped probably in the idea of increased war.

01:26:39.980 Right, we are in a period of downturn in violence due to war, despite how many, the terrible narratives that we've heard, which is good.

01:26:49.260 I mean, you know, we have come in the right direction in that front.

01:26:52.620 And NATO's been part of that.

01:26:53.760 But it is one of the things that I like about Trump.

01:26:57.540 He doesn't care.

01:26:58.440 He doesn't care.

01:26:59.360 He's American-centric.

01:27:01.040 And if these organizations are one-sided or count on us too much like the UN, and man, that's certainly true.

01:27:07.880 He's willing to get out there and say, yeah, we're not doing this anymore.

01:27:11.200 This is a bad deal for us.

01:27:12.180 We're not doing that.

01:27:12.900 I like that about him.

01:27:14.280 I do like that too.

01:27:15.460 I don't know that I necessarily agree with his analysis every time he says it.

01:27:19.340 A lot of times, you know, I don't necessarily think that he, I mean, the trade stuff would be my biggest problem.

01:27:26.360 You know what I mean?

01:27:26.740 A lot of times he says we have, hey, he's been talking about these really bad tariffs with Canada and how they're hitting us with these terrible tariffs.

01:27:34.740 And it's like, well, actually their tariffs are lower than ours.

01:27:37.800 We have a trade surplus with Canada.

01:27:40.340 Not a trade deficit, a trade surplus with Canada.

01:27:42.540 But he threw out a hot button issue, and that's the 217% average tariff on milk.

01:27:52.380 But it's not even a real tariff.

01:27:53.860 It's a two-tier tariff.

01:27:55.200 Yeah.

01:27:55.740 Right?

01:27:56.080 Yeah.

01:27:56.340 So it doesn't kick in.

01:27:57.760 We have almost no milk that actually falls under the tariff.

01:28:00.820 And the thing he pulled out of, the TPP eliminated it.

01:28:06.460 It was already gone.

01:28:08.300 He pulled out of it.

01:28:09.380 It was the only reason it's still there, and it really doesn't make any difference anyway.

01:28:12.540 Yeah.

01:28:13.420 Almost no dairy products fall under that tariff, and that's been the one that they've talked about incessantly.

01:28:19.600 And again, he's right in that there are problems with trade.

01:28:23.360 Other countries do things that are poor.

01:28:25.760 I fully support his argument, Donald Trump's argument that he made when he talked to the G7, which was, hey, eliminate all tariffs for everybody.

01:28:37.040 Now, I think most people ignored that because they don't believe he's serious about it, and I think he just threw it out there as a rhetorical device.

01:28:42.960 But I support it fully.

01:28:44.480 Me too.

01:28:44.780 And you know what?

01:28:45.680 It is revealing that these other countries didn't go, okay, we'll take you up on that.

01:28:49.540 You notice they didn't.

01:28:50.500 Yeah.

01:28:50.780 And so I think that was the point Trump was trying to make.

01:28:53.500 I'd rather see it as a real policy.

01:28:55.380 Go for it, man.

01:28:56.120 Get rid of these things.

01:28:56.820 They're terrible.

01:28:57.620 We eat donut fries.

01:28:59.040 Next.

01:28:59.640 Yes!

01:29:00.240 Yes!

01:29:00.640 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:29:05.680 Pat and Stu for Glenn today and being joined by Jeffy now.

01:29:09.720 Thank you.

01:29:10.560 Thank you.

01:29:11.280 We heard about a new product that must be tried scientifically.

01:29:15.200 It's just for science.

01:29:16.080 We don't want to.

01:29:16.960 It's just that we do this for you and for science.

01:29:19.560 Yeah, we have to.

01:29:20.080 They are donut fries from Dunkin' Donuts.

01:29:23.180 I understand these are keto compatible, both pre and probiotic.

01:29:29.800 with all kinds of antioxidant power.

01:29:32.520 Am I right?

01:29:32.980 If you say those things, then they're got to be good.

01:29:34.700 And then they're good for you.

01:29:36.720 They're five in a pack.

01:29:37.560 Yeah, you get five in a pack.

01:29:39.020 I only have four.

01:29:39.800 I got ripped off.

01:29:40.480 Jeez.

01:29:41.100 They are donut sticks, I would say.

01:29:44.280 They're not, they're really like thick fries.

01:29:46.320 My guess is these are just donuts in the shape of a French fry,

01:29:49.040 and so they're donut fries, right?

01:29:50.540 I mean, I think that's what they're going for here.

01:29:52.440 Yeah.

01:29:52.680 Almost a churro.

01:29:53.900 Yeah, almost.

01:29:54.840 Yeah, you could say churro.

01:29:55.920 I see on the outside, if you see like salt would be on a fry,

01:29:59.080 you see, I guess, a sugar or a cinnamon sugar type of vibe

01:30:02.000 on the outside of it.

01:30:03.380 They are, you know, about the size of your finger.

01:30:06.520 And they smell pretty freaking good.

01:30:09.260 I mean, donuts are good.

01:30:10.120 That's the thing.

01:30:10.560 You start with something like donuts.

01:30:11.940 And they're good for you.

01:30:13.580 Absolutely, they're good for you.

01:30:14.640 Am I right?

01:30:15.060 I heard somewhere that they're prebiotic, probiotic.

01:30:17.420 Yeah, that's what I heard.

01:30:18.360 Keto compatible?

01:30:19.400 I heard that too.

01:30:20.080 Now, it doesn't say that here.

01:30:21.020 All organic.

01:30:21.640 It says here the five sticks are 240 calories.

01:30:27.040 For the five, though.

01:30:27.720 That's not bad.

01:30:28.380 Yeah, five grams of sugar, 14 grams of total fat.

01:30:32.420 That's perfect.

01:30:33.020 That's not bad.

01:30:33.760 This is basically kale.

01:30:34.340 This is basically, you're right, kale or quinoa.

01:30:38.040 Thank you.

01:30:38.460 It's like eating one of those.

01:30:39.440 Very similar to quinoa.

01:30:40.100 Thank you.

01:30:40.120 You know?

01:30:40.460 Yeah.

01:30:41.060 All right, let's give it a shot here.

01:30:42.100 Dunkin' Donuts donut fries.

01:30:43.500 Oh.

01:30:44.700 Mm.

01:30:46.780 It's a donut in the shape of a fry.

01:30:48.560 It needs syrup, though.

01:30:50.160 Mm.

01:30:50.700 It's almost like a French toast stick.

01:30:52.700 It's a sugar donut.

01:30:53.600 Yeah, this is...

01:30:54.560 In the shape of fry.

01:30:55.520 I actually...

01:30:56.580 If they were hot still, but these came two hours ago, so they're not...

01:30:59.700 Yeah, they're not hot, so getting them at the store would improve this experience.

01:31:02.700 However, I will say, a donut needs a thicker base because that's where the fluffiness lives.

01:31:11.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:12.420 And because these are thin, you're getting just like crunchy exterior of donut.

01:31:16.280 Mm-hmm.

01:31:16.620 And it's not...

01:31:17.800 I mean, it's not...

01:31:19.580 Oh, yeah.

01:31:21.080 And because they're cold, it just...

01:31:23.220 It loses a lot, so I'm going to say...

01:31:25.800 I'll eat the rest of yours.

01:31:28.460 Shocking.

01:31:29.260 Yeah, that is a stunning surprise.

01:31:30.940 I mean, I had one ripped off.

01:31:32.420 I didn't say I wasn't going to eat them.

01:31:33.760 I'm just saying they're not spectacular.

01:31:35.140 I was supposed to have five.

01:31:35.980 I only got four.

01:31:36.880 You can have the rest of those.

01:31:38.580 These are very underwhelming to me.

01:31:41.780 Yeah, they're not worth the calorie intake.

01:31:43.300 No.

01:31:43.800 Now, if you went to the store, you got them right out of whatever...

01:31:47.480 Pot, fresh.

01:31:48.680 Okay, maybe there's something there.

01:31:50.400 They're okay.

01:31:51.340 But these are...

01:31:52.480 This is not a good delivery system for fries.

01:31:54.200 No.

01:31:54.300 Now, I will say this.

01:31:55.260 At the Texas Rangers ballpark here in Arlington, Texas, there is a stand right behind home plate

01:32:03.400 which has funnel cake fries.

01:32:09.280 Funnel cake fries are utterly amazing.

01:32:12.420 I love them.

01:32:13.280 But a lot of that stuff is like these as well.

01:32:15.520 They got to be hot.

01:32:16.280 They got to be hot.

01:32:17.120 You got to get them fat.

01:32:17.900 And also, I would say this.

01:32:19.840 With something like this, you got to have dipping sauce.

01:32:23.400 Yes!

01:32:23.920 You got to have it.

01:32:24.660 Where's like a raspberry dipping sauce here?

01:32:27.040 Oh, my gosh.

01:32:27.840 The raspberry dipping sauce.

01:32:29.540 Are you kidding me?

01:32:30.320 They'd be delicious.

01:32:31.040 Yes!

01:32:33.020 That's what's missing here.

01:32:34.980 The heat and a dipping sauce.

01:32:37.880 I'm going to give these an eight.

01:32:40.820 By the way, on a scale of one to 18.

01:32:43.460 Because Jeffy can only count to 18.

01:32:46.640 So, that's where that came from.

01:32:48.520 In the Patton Stew era.

01:32:50.860 I would say this.

01:32:52.060 What I have here is the now empty bag of Jeffy's donut fries.

01:32:56.160 I only had four of them.

01:32:57.780 It was not even five.

01:32:58.680 As we were talking, he ate the whole bag.

01:33:01.380 So, we do appreciate it.

01:33:02.780 I was hungry.

01:33:03.280 I was waiting for them.

01:33:04.200 So, it's not entirely true that you're a marathon eater rather than a sprint eater.

01:33:09.160 You really kind of both.

01:33:10.480 You sprint and marathon.

01:33:12.100 You sprint and just keep eating.

01:33:13.640 Short distances, though.

01:33:14.560 I sprint.

01:33:16.260 That's a surprise.

01:33:17.300 I would have guessed another outcome.

01:33:19.580 Shocking.

01:33:19.980 Shocking.

01:33:20.200 So, is there anything of potential added value other than the donut fries that you're bringing to the table today?

01:33:27.620 Me?

01:33:28.120 Yeah.

01:33:28.400 Are you talking to me?

01:33:29.680 Well, congratulations are in order.

01:33:32.280 Oh.

01:33:32.740 To Angela Ponce.

01:33:34.560 She's going to be the, she, he, going to be the first transgender woman to compete in the Miss Universe.

01:33:40.600 I actually like this story because of the twist in it.

01:33:44.460 There's a little bit of a twist.

01:33:46.140 Well, with our president?

01:33:48.500 Yes.

01:33:48.960 Yes, that's kind of cute.

01:33:50.340 You could have built that up a little bit.

01:33:52.220 You didn't have to just ruin the surprise.

01:33:54.320 Well, I did not.

01:33:54.840 The person responsible for her being.

01:33:58.160 Oh, what do you mean?

01:33:58.880 That was six years ago.

01:34:00.020 Do you mean the part where they see dead people?

01:34:02.140 Yes.

01:34:02.440 Is that what you mean?

01:34:04.600 You mean the part where he's dead the whole movie and you'll find out at the very, very end that he's been dead the whole time?

01:34:10.840 You thought he was alive?

01:34:12.960 Did I ruin that for anybody?

01:34:14.380 You mean the part where Dr. Van Dyke is his father?

01:34:21.740 Yeah, that's the part.

01:34:22.920 But he wasn't the president then.

01:34:23.780 No, I don't.

01:34:24.560 It doesn't matter.

01:34:24.820 It doesn't matter that he was the president then.

01:34:26.880 What matters is all they do is scream and yell about how evil he is.

01:34:31.240 If you're in GLAAD or any of these organizations.

01:34:33.520 That's true.

01:34:33.840 They hate his guts.

01:34:35.480 When, in fact, he's the most gay-friendly president to ever be elected.

01:34:39.980 Yes.

01:34:40.340 There's no question.

01:34:41.240 There's no doubt.

01:34:42.100 It's hands down.

01:34:43.040 And he is the one who changed the rule and sided with GLAAD when this person sued.

01:34:50.100 Well, he actually claims that he did that before.

01:34:52.680 That was a bit of the fight that they had decided before the lawsuit.

01:34:57.740 That they were going to accept transgender people.

01:34:59.780 That they were already going to do it.

01:35:00.300 Right.

01:35:00.480 Because the girl that filed the lawsuit was with Gloria Allred, who Trump hates.

01:35:06.580 Yeah.

01:35:06.820 And there's a tweet that he tweeted later saying, calling her a third-rate lawyer and

01:35:12.200 asking, is Gloria a man or a woman?

01:35:14.180 A few men would know the answer to that one.

01:35:16.500 Oh, jeez.

01:35:18.540 Was that in 2012 or 2013?

01:35:20.400 Yeah, a long time ago.

01:35:20.760 Yeah.

01:35:21.020 He was a little more aggressive.

01:35:22.600 People think he's aggressive on Twitter now.

01:35:24.260 Wow.

01:35:24.800 They were not following him in 2012.

01:35:27.160 Had I known, and he even said, we made the decision two days before we even heard that

01:35:31.240 Allred was involved.

01:35:32.140 Had I known she was involved?

01:35:33.640 Yeah, maybe I wouldn't have made the decision.

01:35:35.280 She's so easy to beat.

01:35:38.380 So, Spain's Angela Ponce is now the first ever transgendered person to compete in the Miss

01:35:45.000 Universe pageant coming up.

01:35:46.040 Yeah.

01:35:46.360 You know, good.

01:35:47.700 Good for her.

01:35:48.200 She beat out all the other contestants, and she's on her way.

01:35:50.700 Yeah.

01:35:51.220 Yeah.

01:35:51.620 So, she's headed to the contest.

01:35:55.020 It would be interesting if Miss Universe is awarded to a person who was born a man.

01:35:59.860 Wouldn't that be fascinating?

01:36:01.440 It just shows how far we've come.

01:36:03.320 It would be an intriguing commentary.

01:36:04.940 Plus, I think, too, that they're, you know, there's so many people that are just trying

01:36:09.100 to, they live their lives to try to do something that would make Donald Trump mad.

01:36:14.420 Yeah.

01:36:14.620 Right?

01:36:14.980 Like, I would not be surprised if just because they think, they can say his old pageant is

01:36:20.460 now won by a man who is actually a woman now, would be a wonderful statement of tolerance

01:36:26.420 in the society in which now, you know, because we, it's all hate.

01:36:30.660 And, you know, the incivility is out of control, Pat.

01:36:33.280 It is out of control.

01:36:33.760 The incivility of the right, the incivility of Donald Trump.

01:36:35.580 It's out of control because of Donald Trump.

01:36:37.700 Thank you.

01:36:38.200 I know that.

01:36:38.640 Thank you.

01:36:38.820 Only Donald Trump's incivility could cause someone to want to murder Ajit Pai, his FCC

01:36:44.500 director, about net neutrality.

01:36:47.740 And only Donald Trump's incivility could cause for somebody to threaten to chop up Rand Paul

01:36:53.660 and his family with an axe.

01:36:55.320 Wait, what?

01:36:55.920 Thank you.

01:36:57.120 Thank you.

01:36:58.420 Rand Paul's had a tough year.

01:37:00.020 Oh, my gosh.

01:37:01.340 Had a tough year.

01:37:01.860 He was at the ballpark, right?

01:37:03.420 Then he got, then the neighbor attacked him.

01:37:05.260 And then he's had this guy.

01:37:06.540 Right.

01:37:06.960 Threatening him.

01:37:07.680 Right.

01:37:08.000 I mean, that's all of this last year.

01:37:09.460 He's had some close calls.

01:37:09.800 I know.

01:37:10.720 Was he at the baseball game?

01:37:12.020 Yeah.

01:37:12.600 He was at the shooting of the baseball game.

01:37:13.640 I don't remember for sure.

01:37:14.580 Was he?

01:37:14.980 Yeah.

01:37:15.420 You're positive.

01:37:16.160 Yes.

01:37:17.560 All right.

01:37:18.920 I mean, I've got no confidence in your certitude.

01:37:21.600 You have your computer right in front of you.

01:37:23.480 Look it up.

01:37:24.020 Zero confidence in Jeffy's certitude.

01:37:26.660 I will say this.

01:37:27.400 This is something I had discovered about Jeffy many, many years ago.

01:37:29.860 Just go with it.

01:37:30.280 Is that his confidence level in between something like, you know, what is your wife's name or

01:37:36.940 your son's name?

01:37:38.440 His confidence level in that fact and his confidence level in something he has absolutely

01:37:43.760 no idea about.

01:37:45.060 He presents them the exact same way.

01:37:47.200 And you're like, oh, really?

01:37:49.240 Oh, okay.

01:37:49.820 So really, that's the basic of quantum physics?

01:37:52.880 Absolutely.

01:37:54.000 Absolutely.

01:37:55.500 You're positive in that?

01:37:56.700 Oh, yeah.

01:37:57.340 Oh, yeah.

01:37:58.120 Oh, yeah.

01:37:58.560 Fact.

01:37:58.840 And then you read it, and you're like, wait a minute.

01:38:01.100 That's not it at all.

01:38:02.440 It was completely wrong.

01:38:03.700 It was completely wrong.

01:38:04.280 Oh.

01:38:04.840 He just walks through the door.

01:38:06.140 I'm pretty sure that was right.

01:38:07.340 Like, Jeffy's like the ultimate wedding crasher.

01:38:09.440 Like, he could just walk into a wedding, and he's just going to look like the family,

01:38:12.620 and people are going to be talking to him and asking him things.

01:38:14.660 You're like, absolutely.

01:38:15.580 That has to be a big family if he looks like it.

01:38:17.660 I mean, that's one gigantic family.

01:38:20.540 Really?

01:38:20.860 I mean, is there such a family on this planet?

01:38:26.200 I don't.

01:38:27.560 I mean, outside of the animal kingdom, is there such a family?

01:38:35.240 That's all I'm asking.

01:38:37.140 You're welcome.

01:38:37.740 By the way, we should point out, chewing the fat with Jeffy happens every day on the Pac-Rae Unleashed program.

01:38:43.820 Yes, it does.

01:38:44.720 It's a good time to remind you of that, and you can listen to the podcast or watch it on theblaze.com slash TV.

01:38:49.400 Thank you for that reminder.

01:38:50.700 Appreciate that.

01:38:51.600 And sometimes things like this happen as I watch every day.

01:38:56.660 That's it from time to time.

01:38:57.760 Once in a while.

01:38:58.660 You know, yesterday we talked about, I know you talked about the trash pile.

01:39:02.140 The garbage batch.

01:39:03.080 That was a revelation.

01:39:05.180 Yeah.

01:39:05.520 That started with, you know, the bull, well, first it started with the bullying of whales.

01:39:09.680 That's a common thing that I'm taking on now.

01:39:12.000 There was a pilot whale that was bullied into eating 80 plastic bags.

01:39:18.320 Trash bags.

01:39:18.640 And it killed him.

01:39:19.680 And it killed him.

01:39:20.340 I don't know how many plastic bags pilot whales can eat and live, but 80 is too many.

01:39:26.500 80 is at least one too many.

01:39:28.660 Yes.

01:39:29.100 So is this Donald Trump's fault too?

01:39:30.680 Did Donald Trump bully him into eating?

01:39:32.320 Yes.

01:39:32.360 I don't know if it was Donald Trump or not, but somebody bullied this pilot whale.

01:39:35.220 The incivility of the Trump administration has affected this entire planet and every living

01:39:39.500 thing on it.

01:39:40.460 Every living thing.

01:39:41.820 And that's why we can attribute his incivility to this death of a pilot whale.

01:39:47.380 Well, I will say there's one thing that both Pat and I unite on is we are against bullying.

01:39:51.800 We want to make sure.

01:39:52.840 No, I mean, that goes without saying.

01:39:54.420 I don't know why you'd even say something like that.

01:39:56.860 Well, I just want to make sure people understand.

01:39:58.300 We're just reinforcing because we never bully anyone.

01:40:01.420 Yeah, no.

01:40:02.040 Never.

01:40:02.460 We wouldn't.

01:40:03.180 Why are you looking at me?

01:40:03.880 We might say the truth about certain people.

01:40:06.160 Oh, sure.

01:40:06.500 Well, the truth has to be stated.

01:40:08.040 You know, but that's just us being honest and forthright.

01:40:10.980 It's like if Jeffy comes in and asks, does my fat make me look fat?

01:40:14.600 Of course, we're going to say, yes, it does.

01:40:16.780 We wouldn't lie to him about that.

01:40:18.000 He doesn't ask that all that often, but we do answer it.

01:40:20.280 Oh, but we do answer it.

01:40:21.120 Quite a bit.

01:40:21.520 Truthfully.

01:40:21.920 Well, thank you.

01:40:23.160 Just in case he would ask.

01:40:24.100 Oh, you look like you're going to ask a question.

01:40:25.780 Yes.

01:40:28.300 Now I know what the yes means.

01:40:30.860 Thank you so much for that.

01:40:32.180 You're welcome.

01:40:32.700 So what's your rating?

01:40:34.140 One to 18 on the donut fries.

01:40:36.360 You know, what did you give it?

01:40:38.780 I think I'd give it more like a six.

01:40:41.420 That was almost an eight, right?

01:40:42.640 I was a seven.

01:40:43.580 Yeah.

01:40:44.100 I think I landed at seven.

01:40:45.760 I don't know.

01:40:46.100 Maybe if it had some milk or something with it.

01:40:47.780 Oh, jeez.

01:40:49.500 That'd be better.

01:40:51.060 I don't know.

01:40:51.660 I haven't decided yet.

01:40:52.840 You know, sometimes I think I miss the Pat and Stu show,

01:40:54.680 and then I remember Jeffy doing this with the milk.

01:40:57.480 This happening so often.

01:40:58.920 The milk thing, for whatever reason,

01:41:01.240 he must bother us with the milk thing.

01:41:04.400 I'm going to pay a glass of milk.

01:41:06.660 I'm going to be good with it.

01:41:07.640 Is there anything that could make it better?

01:41:08.960 You're going to make me some milk.

01:41:12.440 Okay.

01:41:13.700 All right.

01:41:14.160 Well, thank you for this, Jeffy.

01:41:14.960 You're welcome.

01:41:15.260 Yes, thank you.

01:41:16.600 We're really happy to have you here.

01:41:18.420 And yes, your fat makes you look fat.

01:41:20.600 Well, I didn't have your ass.

01:41:23.320 Pat and Stu for Glenn.

01:41:29.080 I'm a Glenn Beck program.

01:41:30.540 We live in a divided country, Pat.

01:41:32.820 No.

01:41:33.240 Very divided.

01:41:34.080 In fact, a divided globe.

01:41:35.420 Did you know that?

01:41:36.320 No.

01:41:36.460 A divided globe.

01:41:38.220 They did a, BBC did a poll of a bunch of countries

01:41:41.800 and asked, do you think your country is divided?

01:41:45.500 Okay.

01:41:46.040 Okay.

01:41:46.700 What do you think the U.S. percentage was?

01:41:48.500 People who think that we're divided.

01:41:50.740 Oh.

01:41:51.700 Expected to be very high, right?

01:41:53.300 Yeah.

01:41:53.780 And it is.

01:41:55.120 84%.

01:41:56.040 84% say the U.S.

01:41:59.140 That's extremely high.

01:41:59.840 The country is divided.

01:42:00.620 Yeah.

01:42:00.960 Okay.

01:42:01.400 It's not number one on the list.

01:42:02.640 One thing I would say is pretty amazing

01:42:04.340 is two points ahead of South Africa.

01:42:07.280 You look at the example of a divided country,

01:42:10.700 you'd think of South Africa.

01:42:12.260 Only 82% of people in South Africa

01:42:14.400 say their country is divided.

01:42:17.920 However, not the highest.

01:42:19.800 Where did we place?

01:42:20.940 Can you say?

01:42:21.660 Let's see.

01:42:22.220 I think there's 19 total.

01:42:23.860 We were one, two, three, four, five, sixth

01:42:26.760 of the listed countries.

01:42:29.040 Actually tied with a few others.

01:42:30.620 Poland, 84%.

01:42:31.680 Spain, 84%.

01:42:32.860 Brazil, 84%.

01:42:34.040 I mean, every country.

01:42:35.200 What I think is interesting about this

01:42:36.200 is pretty much every country thinks they're divided.

01:42:38.220 Yeah.

01:42:38.740 There's only a couple of exceptions to this,

01:42:40.940 and they're not places you necessarily want to live.

01:42:42.860 Saudi Arabia, only 34% say they're divided.

01:42:46.740 Wow.

01:42:47.100 China, only 48% say they're divided.

01:42:50.840 Those are the only two countries under 50.

01:42:53.000 Japan, 52%.

01:42:54.120 Turkey, 65%.

01:42:55.600 India, 66%.

01:42:56.960 France, 75%.

01:42:58.500 Say they're divided.

01:42:59.480 Mexico, 78%.

01:43:00.580 Germany, 81%.

01:43:01.560 Russia, 81%.

01:43:02.660 South Africa, 82%.

01:43:04.220 Brazil, 84%.

01:43:05.680 Spain, 84%.

01:43:06.920 U.S., 84%.

01:43:07.800 Poland, 84%.

01:43:08.720 The U.K., 85%.

01:43:11.360 So they think they're even more divided.

01:43:13.640 Italy, 92% say they're divided.

01:43:17.260 Wow.

01:43:18.480 Italy?

01:43:19.200 Yeah.

01:43:19.320 What are they divided over?

01:43:20.640 I don't know.

01:43:21.800 I mean, marinara versus Alfredo?

01:43:24.200 Maybe.

01:43:24.960 Could be.

01:43:26.940 Argentina, 92% say they're divided.

01:43:30.320 Number one wasn't stunning to me.

01:43:32.660 93% of people in Serbia.

01:43:35.340 Okay.

01:43:35.880 Okay.

01:43:36.240 I kind of think, okay, yeah, they're pretty divided.

01:43:38.300 Yeah, that makes some sense.

01:43:39.160 They're pretty divided.

01:43:39.660 And do they even know what they're fighting about?

01:43:42.800 I don't know.

01:43:43.500 Because Americans sort of don't.

01:43:45.140 No, I don't.

01:43:45.980 That Serbian thing was strange because I don't think a lot of Americans knew what the issues were

01:43:54.700 or whose side we should be on, who was the good guy, who was not.

01:43:58.780 Because if you remember, it was Christians against Muslims there.

01:44:03.360 That's not how it was presented, but that's essentially what was at the root of the problem.

01:44:06.680 And we were on the side of the Muslims.

01:44:10.460 Right?

01:44:11.080 Against the Serbian Christians.

01:44:13.680 That's a bizarre one.

01:44:15.180 It's interesting.

01:44:16.260 And we're never given credit for having helped Muslims in Serbia.

01:44:21.560 Anybody ever said, hey, remember when the U.S. helped Muslims?

01:44:25.720 Remember?

01:44:26.260 They took the battle to the Christians in that particular war.

01:44:31.000 It's amazing.

01:44:31.740 So how much Civil War Genocide talk coming up on Pat Gray Unleashed today?

01:44:35.380 100%.

01:44:35.900 Oh, really?

01:44:36.360 The whole show dedicated to Serbian genocide.

01:44:40.100 Wow.

01:44:40.420 It's definitely one to tune in on July 3rd.

01:44:42.940 Glenn Beck.

01:44:49.320 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 03, 2018

'Hyping Up the Hysteria' - 7⧸3⧸18

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