'In The End Socialism Kills' -
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Summary
In this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn talks about Iran and Venezuela and how they are examples of failed socialist experiments and how we should learn from them. Glenn also talks about the failed socialist experiment of socialism in Iran, and how it should be applied to Venezuela.
Transcript
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the blaze radio network on demand glenn back let's go 1979 1979 before the islamic revolution in
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iran extreme exchange rate was 70 iranian rials to one u.s dollar today that number has grown to
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119 000 to one u.s dollar iranian currency is in a dramatic death spiral it has dropped 18 percent
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in the past two days the annual inflation rate now is 221 percent this is good news now why is it
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happening primarily due to the threat of u.s sanctions returning the first round set to begin
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on monday second round hitting iran's oil industry and that begins in november so iran's economy is
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collapsing and the sanctions haven't even officially begun yet social unrest has been breaking out all
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over the country iran actually knows how to live in peace iran actually knows how to be free and
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democratic because they have a long history of it it's this is not like iraq or any of the other
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places now we have no idea what unsettling iran will mean for the future so we should all
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pray and hope for the best but god only knows what will happen but food and water shortages are now
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pushing people to the brink protesters have been heard yelling death to khameini rather than death
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to america now this is what would have happened had the obama administration not given iran a lifeline
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with a nuke deal but they were at a breaking point and for some reason we decided that it was wise to
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infuse the world's largest state sponsor of terror with billions of dollars but let's pivot quickly to
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another failing state venezuela the imf just announced that the inflation rate now in venezuela will hit
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one million percent by the end of the year i won't even bother to tell you what the exchange rate is
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let's just say it's bad fortune magazine reported last may that the fake currency in the video game
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world of warcraft is now more valuable than the bolivar that's how bad it is so why group venezuela and
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iran together yes they're both failing states but what else do they have in common well something you're
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never going to hear the leftist and the mainstream media talk about you won't hear a democrat talk about
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iran and venezuela are both examples of a failed socialist experiment sure the revolution in iran
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was anti-west but it was also anti-capitalist redistribution and socialist ideology were the
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co-partners with the islamic ideology in iran the government owns and operates all aspects of the
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economy it is a fascistic state the state-owned and state-directed economy it is true islamic
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socialism and like venezuela socialism is killing that once great country it's sucking it dry iran and
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venezuela are two countries with vast amounts of oil reserves there is absolutely no reason why they
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shouldn't be economic juggernauts except for socialism when the state controls the economy
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the people suffer how many examples do we need before our children can finally see the lie that
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this new popular wave of american democratic socialist will only bring misery it doesn't matter how flashy
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it's wednesday august 1st you're listening to the glenn beck program
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hello stew mr beck how are you good how are you pretty good i don't really understand why you started
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the show that way though well with lies true with the lies uh socialism's really bad huh yeah people
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coming together to help each other that's terrible what a terrible idea right uh you haven't even i mean
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you keep making it sound like it's this impossible task to pay for socialism well and well seeing that
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medicare uh according to the democrats will cost uh 32 trillion dollars in the first 10 years
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that would mean that we would need to double the income tax to be able to pay for just that one
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program first of all you're just making up numbers there's no such thing as trillion but beyond that
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i wish that were true it used to be kind of that way right it was like trillion and then how are you
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talking about we thought trillion and zillion was a made-up word when i was a kid yeah and now
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we may find out that zillion is actually a number if bernie sanders getting control holy crap zillion was
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real the whole time i hope bajillion doesn't come next uh but we actually the manhattan institute put
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together a rundown a menu of options okay for you to pay for all right now who is the the manhattan
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institute yeah like a conservative leaning uh think tank okay but the idea here was to give you
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some options either government or left-wing estimates a menu of options okay uh to put together
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the 10 of gdp you would need uh to actually pay for medicare for all now again we should point out
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that socialism is not just medicare for all this is just one little program and this is a swath of
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programs because you also have to have you know uh education for all universal college education and
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universal uh housing is also on the list now as as is guaranteed jobs for all so you can't find a job
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don't worry the government will provide one and they'll pay you for doing either nothing or
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something very small right okay so what i want you to do here going to give you options and you have
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to select ones you'll prove now of course glenn beck will not approve any of these options likely
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they all obviously are increases in some sort of tax or fee or something because we're trying to get
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the money back for this 10 so you need to put yourself in the mind of what's reasonable here
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not you evil libertarian jerk who doesn't want to help anybody but say what would you okay so if i'm if
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i'm if i'm uh if if i'm if i had a gun to my head and uh and there was absolutely no choice of not
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doing this what would i choose as the best route yeah i would say like you know what can you put up
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with okay none of it but you can't but like think of this as like okay we're a left-wing society here
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like rational options sure okay we're on msnbc and we are proud of that which ones would you yeah
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exactly which ones all right it's a completely different mindset i wasn't prepared for this
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but i think i can do it okay all right good uh how about now these are all policies you've heard
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before all right thrown around tax carried interest as ordinary income you willing to do that tax
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carried interest as ordinary income so in other words uh interest on you know banks and whatever
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else i have care well yeah carried interest a little yeah but i mean this is your this is something
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that uh evil rich people take advantage of all the time i mean you gotta be able to do that that's
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the easiest one yeah okay you'll do that one how about ending oil and gas tax breaks come on well
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then you gotta do that step one towards venezuela but i got you gotta do that okay yeah yeah sure sure
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sure sure yeah yeah yeah i'm on msnbc did you know that warren buffett's secretary pays
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that is not true okay it is mixing apples and oranges it is but again you don't sound like
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someone who's on msnbc right now that is an outrage okay how about a 30 minimum buffett tax for
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millionaires i mean come on these are millionaires they certainly can pay a little more for universal
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health care for everybody it's a can i ask the question can i ask the question but they don't
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get paid that way so a 30 income tax when you don't get an income is zero well no it would be
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your third you know there's there's taxes that you're right you get the money from different
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investments and things like that we would make sure capital gains the money that comes in you pay
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minimum so what happens to the capital gains tax you're gonna pay 30 on that just come on that's an
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easy one crazy okay sure come on sure okay why not how about a bank rachel maddow on in just a few
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minutes i love that how about a bank tax on large financial institutions these are big banks they
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don't need this money it's just bank tax you can go along with that one i think we'll get you there
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how about this now this is a minor thing you probably wouldn't even notice that i don't even
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know why i'm bothering asking but a carbon tax of 25 per metric ton that's craziness also you don't
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rebate any household that is hit with it so i just make sure there's no rebates you're it's this is a
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punitive tax that goes on everybody 25 per metric ton no big deal you're fine how much would that no
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how much would that mean for the average person uh well i mean i mean in and carbon tax what have
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you replaced it with what what are you replacing the energy with i'm i'm fine getting off of you know
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carbon emissions as the the minute we have something to replace it with uh what are we like
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40 uh let's see 40 let's say 40 uh metric tons so the average person you know it's not a big deal i
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can tell you that i mean we're talking about what a thousand dollars so an extra thousand dollars a
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year for no big deal average person yeah i mean but but if you have a smaller house and you don't have
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as much money it'd probably be less okay and for evil rich people like you it'll even be more all
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right okay so that one's no big deal you're fine with that right oh of course i am okay how about
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eliminating mortgage interest charitable and salt deductions that is insane well i'm on msnbc so i'm
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for it it's are you you're willing to go that far i want to make sure no no are you asking me or
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you asking the guy i'm supposed to be on msnbc because i put yourself in the mindset of i let's say
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we're going to try to pay for this what's reasonable to pay for this i know none of that
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none of that because it would collapse the economy none of that think about these deductions salt is
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the one for state income tax so that's okay that's a minor thing no i know it's not i'm just saying
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like that one well come on charitable interest so you would no longer be able to deduct your
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charitable donations and you would not be able to eliminate your mortgage interest no because i
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because that one all right so that one you're saying no on how about this what if we tax
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dividends and long-term capital gains is ordinary income no that would be disastrous for the growth
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of any kind of industry that would be a giant jobs killer okay you're off on that one how about
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repealing uh the trump uh tax cuts that we just passed uh you mean the one that's a spring on the
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economy no okay no all right eliminate the uh the fica cap so 15.3 percent payroll tax on all the
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wages no oh geez how about repealing the uh earned income okay wait wait you're you're getting this
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from me if i am buddy but if i was over at uh you know the what's the couple in the joe and mika if
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i was over having you know some sort of chardonnay at their house last night i'm probably for all those
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things but there's some level where it gets completely insane right like where it's it's like
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we can all say okay well i want to uh it's the the minimum wage is 725 right we should we should
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raise it to 12 or 15 and the republican says well well why not raise it to a thousand there's some
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point where the where a normal person who thinks universal health care is a good idea right is going
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to stop with these proposals okay so let me go back to where i just started saying no and look at it as
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an average uninformed adult that doesn't pay any attention to anything that is just convinced that
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uh you know the the the rich are evil and they have no idea how business works okay eliminate mortgage
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interest charitable and uh salt deductions i think the average person would say no to that i think
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you're right tax dividends and long-term capital gains as ordinary income they are going to say yes
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to that because they don't realize that's their 401k repeal the entire 2017 tax law uh i don't know you
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could probably make a case i let's say no on that one okay eliminate the fica cap 15.3 percent payroll
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tax everybody will say yes to that because it's evil rich people yep repeal the earned income tax and
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child credit no way they're saying yes to that no uh raise corporate tax rate by 20 percentage points
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what uh yeah i think you could make the case if the because it sounds bad it's a corporation what
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do we care you can make that case okay uh i mean just to the dolts to the non-thinking you know
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america double the 35 and 37 tax brackets to 70 and 74 you will make that happen you think people
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would go along with that i absolutely 74 i absolutely do raise they bought into you could
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keep your doctor if you liked your doctor true raise income tax rates across the board by 10
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percentage points no no that hits minimum it will not happen impose a 20 value added tax like a national
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sales tax no they're not going to accept that um raise the payroll tax by 10 percentage points
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with no wage limit no okay cut defense budget to european levels yes you think that really you
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think the average person goes along with that i think i don't think they would go along with that
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but i but you know okay let's say no because i think if this if for this to actually happen the world
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has to be in much worse condition and when it does you're going to want that military so i'm going
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to say no to that all right now you needed to get to uh 10 of gdp and i'm adding it up now as we
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okay so we're going to talk about 3d printing of guns i i my eyes are going to bleed on this one
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um but we want to talk about 3d printed guns we're talking about socialism now and the the idea that
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america would be better off with a universal health care package i cannot believe that i'm having to have
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this conversation uh after i fought for so long saying this is what they were going to do uh and uh
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everybody said no you were there with me i mean you you saw it coming too but now we have to actually
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fight this so how do we fight it we have to fight it with uh facts and reason and hope that it wins
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um but uh that doesn't usually work out let's try the numbers so stew just gave me a list now who'd
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you get this list from the manhattan institute put it together however all of the sources are either
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government source specifically or a liberal source okay so we don't we didn't want to take any like
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conservative estimates that would say it wouldn't raise that much money because we're trying to get to
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10 of gdp that's what they say we will need yep okay and so you gave me a menu and read off the
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things that i said okay you could probably convince the american people to do okay tax carried interest
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is ordinary income yes and oil and gas tax breaks yes 30 minimum buffet tax for millionaires yes impose
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the bank tax on large financial institutions carbon tax of 25 per metric ton which you know is probably
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a thousand dollars per household but you know that depends on how much you use yeah that one's
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questionable if you could get that one through yeah because i think the average person would have
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a problem with that um but still it feels good at least from the left um tax dividends and long-term
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capital gains is ordinary income uh eliminate the fica cap 15.3 payroll tax on all wages uh raise the
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corporate tax rate by 20 percentage points and i said no to that one didn't i no you said yes to that
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one you don't want to take that one out all all taxes everybody corporate tax or corporate tax
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yes yes yes and double the 35 and 37 tax rates yes for the rich people to 70 and 74 okay you passed all
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of those things yeah okay you needed to get to i don't i don't just tuning in i don't agree with any
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of those you're saying i think you could in a worst case scenario con enough people into it and say
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yes but it's going to be good for the collective what's the least defensive way to get there we're
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trying to get to this wonderful socialist utopia that's all we need all we need is 10 of gdp now we
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all know of course it would be more than that uh but we're not even going to discuss that we're just
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going to take the 10 gdp number as given all the things i just described put together gets you to
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4.36 of gdp oh my gosh so you're not even halfway there to pay for that with now again we're at 74 tax
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rates we're up to we're up to 40 we're up 20 points percentage points in corporate rate we've
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eliminated all the taxes by far the uh most heavily taxed uh country in the world now that's interesting
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too because and there's crossover here as well because you know we eliminated we did not eliminate
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the entire tax law if you want to do that you're borderline on that one that would get you to 5.03
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i don't think you'd do that and if you if you cut defense spending to european levels you you you
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know you get to 6.03 but you're still what do you have to cut to get to 10 and you got to pass
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probably either the uh the probably the the national sales tax and repeal the child credit
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and earned income tax credit might get you there it's almost impossible
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this is the glenn beck program welcome to the uh program i'm really glad that you are here today
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boy do we have a lot to say on uh the 3d printing of guns i i you know i watched cnn yesterday for
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about 10 minutes and i can't even say that it was probably about 35 minutes uh and mainly because i
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couldn't find the remote and so i just i couldn't change the damn channel uh uh but i'm sitting there and
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i'm having lunch yesterday and i'm i'm i'm watching it and this is an honest question this is an honest
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question does cnn report news anymore because if you watch them i mean it was one story after another
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after another after another and all it was was um uh speculation and then opinion about the
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speculation we think this is what's going on we think this is who's doing what and then
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opinions about that and what it might mean if it's true yeah i mean they're particularly uh particularly
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uh uh certain shows that that really go over the line on this on that network there's some that are
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okay but there's a lot of them that are really just it's just constant like you know i've used this
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example yesterday but it's like they're they had a speech of trump and he's just doing a normal
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campaign speech and they're just covering it and the bottom of the the the screen you know a little
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lower third banner there says trump talks um amid russian allegations and then they listed like three
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or four of the you know potential scandals that have been swirling around the news it's like what do
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you mean amid he wasn't talking about any of those topics he just like he was speaking at the same
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time we're worried about them is that is that the point you're making i mean you also could have
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said donald trump speaks amid a great economy with a very low unemployment rate and a new supreme court
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justice about to be uh uh nominated or you know you could have done any of those things instead you pick
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hey let's pick the three or four worst things we can think of and just put he's speaking at the same
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time these things are being considered i mean that that is just that is a that's the sort of bias
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that's very uh implicit there yesterday i i started making a list of people that i want to talk to
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that i i uh that i think could add some intelligence to conversation and i don't care who they are i just
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i i want to talk to people who are honestly seeking truth i don't care no politicians are involved
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i i don't care uh where you're at as long as you agree with the bill of rights that we should not
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be shut down for our opinion that nobody should be silenced you know what i mean uh and you're
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honestly seeking truth and you can have an honest conversation where honest questions are asked that
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might change your mind talk to somebody and ask them questions about their point of view and their
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perspective that might change your mind or they might change their mind because of something you're
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saying to them that's the kind of conversation i want to have so i started making a list i ran out of
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people at 10 10 i mean what how what do you do who are those people that you think that are either
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and i i want to be really careful because there is a difference between uh leftists uh who are just you
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know the the activists on either side the people that just will go and say anything and they will never
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look at themselves in the mirror because they have an agenda who who do you who do you see
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that isn't like that i mean somebody suggested to me glenn you really need to talk to the ceo of twitter
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okay well okay i'd like to but is he like that is he a guy who is open i don't know is he a guy open-minded
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enough to be able to say wait a minute let me let me say this let me show you how people view what you're
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doing and him go huh now you know what i didn't think of it that way i've never thought of it that
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way because i'm surrounded by leftists you know i don't think that moment no i don't think so but
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i mean would somebody i don't want to i why waste our time with people whose minds are already made
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up why well i mean if they have something to add to your perspective yeah yeah let me say let me
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rephrase that whose minds are already made up and there's no chance for anything surprising to
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happen in either direction right and they just their minds are made up and you are wrong and they
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are right we'll use a cnn example from today uh they brought on a person who was at the in the crowd of
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the las vegas shooting and then they brought on a uh second amendment advocate uh talking about
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uh the 3d printed guns right and so what what happened as you would expect was an argument and
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name-calling an argument in which the las vegas shooting uh victim appealed to everyone's emotions
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because he was of course in the middle of a terrible tragedy one of the worst tragedies
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at least as far as the worst as far as guns go and then you know the the second amendment advocate
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which i don't i don't know who i'm not who sure who she was but trying to explain the difference
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between rights and feelings and you know there are you know we've seen certainly with dana lash
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who's had real success as going on there in those tough circumstances to to argue it's you know it's
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hard that's these are hard moments and they're hard decisions to make for a society they act as if
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they're so easy these are difficult decisions our decision was made in 1791 so uh you know it was a
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long time ago that one was made but still these are tough issues you have to have someone who's
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really really knows what they're doing and is really uh balanced and understands these things
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going on you know one person's laughing at the other then you know she you know the the shooting
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victim uh makes some point that makes no sense as far as the constitution as you might expect again
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he's a guy talking he's talking about emotion is involved in a shooting and she laughs at it and
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then he says how dare you laugh at me i was in a shooting i was bullets were coming down and i was
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dodging them and you're laughing at me how could that possibly advance anyone's understanding of
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this issue in any way that conversation it's it's it's a giant zilch and you have of course the host
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who is every time the second amendment advocate says anything that you know veers at all into something
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that doesn't make them look bad she just interrupts them and then they go back to the other person
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and it's just like now of course i obviously agree with the second amendment advocate on these
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issues so i'm seeing it in that fashion but the bottom line is there was zero chance of something
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positive coming out of that conversation so i'm i'm wondering if there is a chance that anything
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positive can happen for instance last yesterday i started i started tweeting about the 3d gun thing
00:27:31.360
and i said uh watching you know cnn explain 3d guns is hysterical it's like talking to my
00:27:38.300
grandfather about hip-hop i said we we need to ban these sure as soon as we ban the internet the
00:27:47.740
entire world is about to change in the media and dc still think it's 1959 well that was just crazy
00:27:54.040
talk i got hammered for that so somebody said iran china russia have no problem banning you know a lot
00:28:00.200
of stuff on the internet you oh it right i don't are you making my point or i i don't know i said okay
00:28:08.920
let's be more like russia and china and iran first you have a right to smith your own gun that's
00:28:15.860
long-standing you can make your own gun yeah without serial numbers you can make build out of metal and
00:28:22.860
build them at your home absolutely legal to do two freedom of speech and blueprints that was just
00:28:30.200
settled but these blueprints have been you know with the patent office since you know 1900 you can
00:28:36.240
go get those you just have to go to patent office okay three the internet and 3d printers which one
00:28:43.600
do you want to ban so then i get oh well we're at it glenn why don't we allow sex on the streets and
00:28:50.580
kill anyone who upsets us it's all about freedom right and i wrote can anybody engage in an actual
00:28:56.940
debate can anybody actually say something besides name calling so one person wrote back too much
00:29:03.100
freedom is anarchy glenn okay okay i'll take that as the beginning of a good debate that was as good
00:29:12.220
as it got and i said good first honest statement now we have a bill of rights but just assume we didn't
00:29:20.360
where is the line of too much freedom holy cow uh well your freedom ends where my fist uh when
00:29:32.640
your fist meets my nose um we have the bill of rights which is part of the constitution um you want
00:29:39.240
me to answer that in a tweet why not just uh have me explain thermodynamics well no i know but you want
00:29:48.120
you want to block speech yeah okay um let's see uh that's up to the citizenry to to uh decide glenn
00:29:55.660
the easy answer is is up to the supreme court um no it's not up to the supreme court it isn't up to
00:30:05.640
the supreme court or we still would have slavery if it were up to the supreme court we would still have
00:30:15.680
jim crow laws it's so frustrating i like in this cnn debate i was just talking about the guy the the
00:30:21.080
guy who was in the shooting says well you could bring up the first amendment all you want this is
00:30:26.960
the law there's a federal law and you the first amendment does not protect you against a federal
00:30:32.720
law there's no federal law first of all if there's anything the constitution does it is protects you
00:30:40.640
against the government making federal laws that violate the constitution it's the whole purpose of
00:30:46.480
the constitution it's exactly what it does it is the most fundamental thing it does it is like the
00:30:53.820
only reason the document exists is to make sure the federal government does not pass laws that violate
00:31:00.320
it let me go a step further it is the point in the declaration of independence governments are
00:31:07.360
established among men to protect these rights that's the only reason why we have a government
00:31:17.200
okay what's the purpose of that right i mean again like what the purpose is i guess is to make me and
00:31:22.720
you react like we just did so we have some emotional angry reaction about nonsensical points that don't
00:31:30.240
do anything and i don't know what we've done this a hundred times okay so here's here's what we have to do i just
00:31:35.520
want to play just the response um uh and i'm going to get into this later and we're also trying to get a hold of
00:31:42.540
cody wilson but he's like if i answer the phone man uh it'll be that i'm awake and so i'll talk if not i'm like can you
00:31:49.040
put it on your calendar he's the guy who does the 3d printing gun company by the way we've had him on before
00:31:53.980
a few times and uh we've had him on before and didn't really kind of we didn't know how to feel about him
00:31:58.420
didn't really kind of like him the first time but that was like five or six years ago he's 25 years old and changing the
00:32:03.840
world now he's been beaten up a little bit and he's over 30 and he's he's much cooler he's it's much
00:32:08.760
cooler uh but anyway he's the guy who is the 3d it's all started because of him so we're going to
00:32:14.900
hopefully talk to him later on in the program and i and i i have uh i have some things to share with you
00:32:21.240
uh but let's just let's just let mike lee um summarize this yesterday they were trying to pass senate bill
00:32:29.940
533 and if this is not up to the president if you want to ban 3d gun printing and that's not what
00:32:41.680
they're even talking about they're saying that they want to make it illegal to publish the blueprints of
00:32:49.940
guns which are available at the patent office but if you publish them if you put them online that will
00:32:59.220
be illegal okay so that's senate bill 533 here is as they're trying to pass it mike lee stands up he's
00:33:07.460
like i've had this for about 10 minutes so can i just chime in here just quickly before we do
00:33:13.660
something great moment thank god mike lee is thank god listen to this mr president reserving the right
00:33:19.000
to object i first saw this legislation literally moments ago and therefore haven't had adequate time
00:33:26.100
to review it but i will say this any legislation that comes forth from this body that begins with
00:33:32.220
the following words will attract my attention and should attract the attention of anyone who's
00:33:37.940
concerned about our first amendment and other constitutional rights it begins with the words
00:33:42.600
it shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally publish that ought to be concerning to us to each and
00:33:50.340
every one of us democrats and republicans alike on that basis i object wow american americans have got
00:33:58.500
to know there is a much bigger debate than what does the nra say there's donald trump's in the pocket
00:34:05.060
they are trying to pass a law i don't care what it says after
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it would be unlawful for anyone to publish follow that with anything and it is against our constitution
00:34:23.960
now we're also going to explain why this is just hyperbole why this all this is just this is the latest
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attack on donald trump and the nra this is this is ridiculous to have this debate but we're having
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so she's began answering uh ads for construction work and she put you know bids in for construction
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she had to go out and earn money they needed her um and she didn't want her kids to see their mother
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now the beauty in life is when you put into it all you usually need is just one break
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april got hers when a woman answered her ad and had april remodel her bathroom the woman's bathroom floors
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in all of that brokenness you know the walking into a home like that seeing that everything had collapsed
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those are the stories that we need to start hearing again
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and those stories do not exist in most other countries
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it's wednesday august 1st you're listening to the glenn beck program a couple of things uh going on we we we need to discuss the
00:40:10.780
the craziness that is going on now in washington about the 3d printed gun
00:40:20.640
and we need to have a rational conversation about that and we'll do that coming up in just a second
00:40:26.400
also um we a couple years ago glenn you'll remember this rich weinstein he's a uh investment advisor financial planner and a listener to the show
00:40:34.920
and he got in touch with us about something he found when he decided to do some of his own research
00:40:40.660
um and what he found wound up being introduced into evidence into a supreme court trial
00:40:49.200
yeah king versus burwell which almost overturned obamacare
00:40:55.220
if you remember you probably heard the clip you might not have known it came from a listener of the show
00:41:06.860
okay ask mike to pull a clip of uh jonathan gruber talking about health care
00:41:11.980
okay so we happen to have that so the it's just you can't do it politically you just literally cannot do it
00:41:16.880
okay transparent financing unless i'm transparent financing also transparent spending i mean
00:41:21.740
the this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure cbo did not score the mandate as taxes
00:41:27.460
if cbo scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies
00:41:30.060
okay so it's written to do that in terms of in terms of risk rated subsidies if you get a law which
00:41:36.080
said healthy people are going to pay in it made explicit the healthy will pay and sick people get
00:41:40.200
money it would not have passed okay just like the people transparent lack of transparency is a huge
00:41:46.400
political advantage and basically you know call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever
00:41:51.080
but basically that was really really critical to getting the thing to pass and you know it's
00:41:56.260
the second best argument look i wish mark was right we can make it all transparent but i'd rather
00:42:00.600
have this law than not okay so here was the the whole point of this is the ends justify the means
00:42:07.300
they lied they twisted the truth and they wrote it in such a way that it would pass but it was an
00:42:14.380
absolute lie now what's amazing is that this was found by a listener of ours who just likes to go
00:42:22.660
hunting online and dig up stuff and it was used in the supreme court case crazy uh rich is uh
00:42:30.580
with us now uh and uh he's been diving into the the background of alexandria ocasio cortez and
00:42:37.580
how this phenomenon sort of occurred richie there yes i am hey guys hi great to talk to you rich
00:42:43.880
it's interesting you said you you posted this and and you go through kind of a long uh
00:42:48.320
the diagram here of what's happened is really interesting but it starts with you know the 28 year
00:42:54.640
world phenom alexandria ocasio cortez right you know she's she's been getting beaten up in the media
00:43:01.420
because she doesn't seem to have any answers to any questions and i didn't think i really didn't
00:43:07.000
want to beat her up anymore my my question to myself was how did she get to this spot without
00:43:13.940
knowing any policy so so that was my question to myself and i didn't think anybody was really
00:43:19.600
looking in that direction you know hang on just a second i i mean i hate to point out but you could
00:43:24.500
say that the republicans found somebody who got to a spot that didn't know much about policy either
00:43:29.720
well occasionally happens talk about that we could talk about that another day okay all right okay all
00:43:35.760
right so so you started looking into her and what'd you find rich well what i did was i first went to
00:43:42.860
her uh her campaign website and and i i kind of wanted to see what her positions were before anybody
00:43:48.780
was looking kind of like jonathan gruber what was he saying before anybody knew to look at what he was
00:43:54.420
saying and you know he was boarding stuff out when he thought nobody was looking right so i thought the
00:44:00.060
same thing about her so i went to her um campaign website and i went back in time i used a way back
00:44:05.740
machine and what i found was her campaign website as little as a year ago was not her campaign
00:44:11.460
website it belonged to a group called brand new congress which i had never heard of before in my
00:44:17.500
life okay and and what i did was i just kept following the bouncing ball so i put brand new
00:44:22.900
congress in google and i come up with this video of rachel maddow talking to the executive director of
00:44:29.160
brand new congress his name was this is going to be a tough one sakat check i can't say his name i'm sorry
00:44:35.060
chakrabarti wants to go with that that's it yeah thank you very much american citizen or do you know
00:44:41.780
anything about him uh no to tell you the truth i put about a year on and off in the gruber i put
00:44:49.580
almost five hours into this okay i found all this in less than five hours all right so so i'm in the
00:44:55.460
middle of a deep dive but let me tell you at least where i got to which is kind of kind of interesting
00:45:00.120
so i i watched maddow interview this executive director from brand new congress and she does a
00:45:06.340
great job of explaining what this brand new congress organization is they're trying to flood
00:45:11.280
the playing field with progressives they're trying to flood the playing field with bernie sanders
00:45:16.580
carbon copies so what they're looking for are people that complete are advocates for bernie sanders
00:45:23.560
policy statements policy positions that's the qualification so he goes on uh so they talk it's
00:45:31.440
interesting video and so of course he i google his name and he by coincidence became the an executive
00:45:40.100
director of an organization called justice democrats what the heck is that well i didn't know so i start
00:45:46.080
looking into justice democrats and lo and behold justice democrats was founded by a gentleman named
00:45:53.740
jank uger i don't think i'm from uh that guy yeah yeah what's the name of that thing young turks
00:46:00.300
young turks this guy's crazy that that's exactly right so so that's where it gets a little weird
00:46:07.980
because jank uger is completely tied up in all of this and and but as i'm looking into him a little
00:46:15.680
bit more i find out that he got kicked out of his own organization justice democrats because
00:46:20.560
well somebody did a deep dive on him and found out in kind of the joy reid fashion that he is a
00:46:27.900
complete sexist and he posted some really terrible stuff online so he got forced out of justice democrats
00:46:34.020
okay but if you keep following the bouncing ball he is obviously you said part of the young turks
00:46:40.040
now this is where it gets really interesting because the young turks are part of something
00:46:46.300
called the medium media consortium which is source funded so this so the whole thing goes right to
00:46:52.840
george soros and i'm not really like a big soros conspiracy guy you know i don't have i've seen
00:46:58.380
your whiteboard from years ago yeah i'm i don't i don't have that but it led right there so the other
00:47:05.540
thing that's really interesting is that jank uger is extraordinarily wealthy he took venture capital
00:47:13.060
money he's worth like 20 million bucks now yeah so so if you think about all the bernie sanders policy
00:47:19.680
the you know the the redistribution of wealth and all that it always seems that the guys at the top
00:47:25.640
are extraordinarily wealthy i don't know how that happens yeah what happens but but this is a great
00:47:32.320
case where where alexandria acacia cortez is basically a bernie sanders carbon copy and and i
00:47:40.240
this is going to be a little derogatory but the reason why i say carbon copies not everybody even
00:47:45.580
remembers what a carbon copy is but if you if you push down real hard the first page you print on
00:47:50.000
is pretty clear and then every page underneath gets a little dimmer all right yeah you see where i'm
00:47:55.860
going there yes yes that's you can see you can see where she why she doesn't understand the policy
00:48:02.120
well i don't understand this honestly richard because she is uh um she's i think she's ivy
00:48:07.900
league educated she has a master's in for you i thought you went to bu didn't you go to okay i think
00:48:12.620
bu it's a yeah but it's really still a good college she has i think a master's in foreign policy or
00:48:18.440
foreign relations and also one in economics i think yeah and she doesn't seem to have an answer on
00:48:24.320
anything foreign policy or economics well actually some of her foreign policy statements are are
00:48:31.220
really uh incredible and if i actually did a google search on on her foreign policy comments i think
00:48:37.960
she's been really anti-israel so all i did was did a google search took a picture of it and put it
00:48:42.560
online and what's interesting is if you kind of i haven't completed my deep dive but getting back to
00:48:48.960
brand new congress they have a bunch of board members and the first guy who's a board member
00:48:54.340
who's listed his name is patrick taylor patrick without a k taylor and this guy is really anti-israel
00:49:03.140
and some of the stuff he's he's he likes to tweet like cenk likes to you know be sexist online and post
00:49:10.000
this guy is really really anti-israel and he wants to go ahead and be let me see if i can find what he
00:49:17.160
posted online i'll just take me a second but but some of the stuff he has he posted is is really
00:49:23.180
anti-israel and i and it seems like that's a running theme in this in this group also i don't know why
00:49:28.660
it's marxism marxism is always always hand in hand with anti-semitism always without exception
00:49:36.280
right so here here's what he here's what he posted uh patrick taylor it's a time to create a serious
00:49:43.780
list of companies and individuals and boycott them endlessly until palestinians have their own state
00:49:49.420
and autonomy maybe create an app to make it most efficient and then make it more real for israel
00:49:54.780
you know anyone that could do that at glenn greenwald so so that is uh yeah i mean there's there's a whole
00:50:02.940
strand of you know the research also but they are i don't understand well you explain it but to me
00:50:09.660
there's a whole lot going on here and there's a whole lot going on behind the scenes and alexandria
00:50:15.780
acacia quentes she's i mean if i had to call her a pawn in a bigger game of chess i think that's what it
00:50:21.040
is you know there's a mess of her this this this brand new congress wants to flood the market with
00:50:26.560
400 kennedys what's really amazing to me uh richard is that you know you you haven't found anything
00:50:33.720
necessarily nefarious what you found is that big huge money um goes out and tries to find people
00:50:44.040
that will run and do the bidding of socialists and that can get elected and they there is no such
00:50:51.700
thing as a grassroots campaign you know the the story is is she she went out and she knocked on doors
00:50:57.720
etc etc which i believe i believe she did she worked hard for it but she also has apparently
00:51:03.680
funding and support from uh you know uh a very leftist organizations including uh george soros so
00:51:12.640
it's it's you know they always talked about astroturf well this is astroturf this is astroturf
00:51:20.360
one of my bullet points that i jotted down to for today is something i want to follow up on i want i
00:51:26.780
haven't been able to follow the money yet and and what what i did find and again this is something i
00:51:32.720
haven't even taken a deep dive on is i found where justice democrats sent 600 000 they did an fec filing
00:51:40.400
they sent 600 000 to brand new congress recently but if you go to brand new congress's fec filing
00:51:47.520
they don't show receiving it so there's something really weird going on with the money they're really
00:51:53.080
good at at bundling small donations and putting in a pack here and sending it here that that's going
00:51:59.840
to be a huge footage if i could ever figure it out richard thank you very much keep it up and uh we
00:52:05.700
appreciate all the hard work that you uh you do and i appreciate brains that work like yours that
00:52:11.240
you're just curious and you just start to burrow in thank you so much richard you're welcome you bet
00:52:16.920
he's at uh at philly rich one philly rich one on twitter if you want to follow his ongoing uh look
00:52:26.120
into this that's pretty pretty interesting yeah help out let's uh i mean we'll we'll try to further it
00:52:30.500
as well i mean it's an interesting thing because these groups are going to pop up and try to push
00:52:34.440
this bernie sanders thing forward well we we know that i mean you know george soros i'm i'm all
00:52:39.620
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00:52:48.920
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under wraps you know what it is is that the power the same power you know remember george soros and
00:54:44.340
hillary clinton they're it's the same they started media matters together so um now soros is saying
00:54:52.240
let's go find all these socialists and let's go fund them it's the same it's the same people
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yeah and it's interesting how the resources are being applied i think to follow that it feels to
00:55:03.800
me very similar to the tea party obviously how do you mean totally different ideologically right
00:55:08.560
but like if you think of the tea party was like you had republicans who kind of let us down for many
00:55:12.840
many years and the tea party comes out and says no we want someone really conservative we want someone
00:55:16.740
who's not going to care we want someone who's going to go all the way with their values uh you
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know i'm sick of these rhinos right yes yes it's it's same similar sort of they're saying i you know
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look we're socialists and we're tired of waiting around for your progressive movement we're trying
00:55:32.300
to hide it's time yeah it's time to be a socialist this is something you predicted a while ago that
00:55:36.100
they're going to unmask and just say they're socialists which is obviously happening now uh but
00:55:40.060
it's interesting to see the money now flow from people like soros who in soros wants this to happen
00:55:44.640
no matter how it happens right he wants progressivism to keep going no matter how it keeps going but he's
00:55:49.740
looking now at what's the opportunity his money goes to the to the places where the best opportunity is
00:55:55.160
and while he funded he's always funded hardcore left-wing progressive operations always but he's
00:56:01.100
now dumping money into organizations like this which if you kind of look at it you know all these
00:56:06.500
organizations came up to raise money for this uh political movement and you know people will say well
00:56:11.820
the tea party's kind of gone now and all that however it was still responsible for a couple
00:56:15.920
wave elections in the biggest that we've seen in the last century so it can be that energy even if
00:56:22.420
you don't like the policies can be turned into something um that if you're a conservative it's
00:56:27.280
pretty dangerous it'll be interesting to see because you know the tea party had real believers at the
00:56:32.700
beginning then you started to have the pretenders you know the party started to go into it and they're
00:56:38.180
like yeah that's me too and they weren't no it'll be interested to see how long actual socialists
00:56:44.880
remain back mercury we've had a fantastic run uh with the housing market in the last couple of years
00:56:53.260
and it's really i mean we're about five years into this now where we've seen prices increase
00:56:59.080
and you know who knows what's coming next i know i'm a guy who's pretty nervous about
00:57:04.100
the way real estate can come and go too fast and that's why when you have a moment you're deciding
00:57:10.580
you know i'm going to change uh locations of where i live it's a big important decision you have to
00:57:15.300
have somebody that you trust on your side in the transaction and that's why glenn created
00:57:19.340
realestateagentsitrust.com it's just the place to go you go to realestateagentsitrust.com
00:57:24.800
you put in your location and you're able to look through the best agents in your area these are
00:57:29.700
people who are actually screened that are they go through a screening process so you can find out
00:57:35.040
who has the best results who's good at advertising plans and follow-up and all the important things
00:57:40.520
that when you're selling your house you need to have realestateagentsitrust.com is the place to go
00:57:45.420
if you want to sell your house fast and for the most money realestateagentsitrust.com
00:57:49.660
you're listening to the glennbeck program well they're now saying that apple may become the first
00:58:00.460
trillion dollar company in history think of that think of that it's incredible i mean and it's
00:58:08.360
amazing to see how car car companies car companies the g that everybody bought cars i know but this is
00:58:16.500
more central to people's lives especially with uber and things like that now a lot of people don't
00:58:20.500
have cars and they do have phones um it's incredible though you think of the last five years amazon and
00:58:26.920
apple both had really really good runs right they've all become part of our lives maybe more than we want
00:58:32.100
them to be but you know amazon is up 193 percent in the last five years that is a really freaking good
00:58:38.380
run for company apple is up 491 percent high 491 so is amazon global yeah right and it's you know
00:58:52.420
i mean is it everywhere like apple is everywhere apple is everywhere so you have people buying stuff
00:58:58.200
every day and you're on itunes and everything every single day do they have the market is amazon have
00:59:04.260
the market penetration i mean i it's still a gigantic company right i know that i know still
00:59:09.920
874 billion dollar market cap where like i'm just still trying to figure out why apple or i mean if
00:59:15.500
you were if you had a thousand dollars to put down on a company and you're like i but this one's gonna
00:59:21.080
last this one's going to be around and will affect everybody's life i would put it on amazon i think so
00:59:27.620
too they're so wide ranging there's and that's everything a lot of their money comes from things you
00:59:31.540
don't even think about with amazon which is like their cloud services this is really where they
00:59:34.740
make lots of even you know a good chunk of their money um by the way there's another story that came
00:59:39.300
out today jeff bezos's parents did you see this no this is amazing uh jeff bezos 1995 goes to his
00:59:45.720
parents is like i really want to start this thing i can't will you invest any money they decide to put
00:59:50.980
in 245 573 dollars oh that's a lot at the time he warns them and says look i i want to come to
00:59:58.140
thanksgiving so i we've got you got to know that this is probably not going to work but like this
01:00:03.060
is a big risk they take the risk anyway we don't know how much they've sold and stuff throughout but
01:00:07.800
if they had held on to it today it would be worth 30 billion dollars oh my gosh a 245 000
01:00:14.540
investment would be worth 30 billion today so i mean they may be billionaires we never even knew
01:00:20.620
existed wow um i mean who knows but it's pretty pretty amazing we should tax them more harry in uh
01:00:27.180
no it's a great story i know we but we got to jump on this socialist bandwagon yeah hello harry
01:00:32.900
how are you hey yeah i also invested 245 000 with jeff on the first day so so why are you calling
01:00:41.620
us you should be on your own island do um listen you know i go back to with you guys to before day
01:00:52.260
one i go back to a buccaneer okay you're trying wow okay so i well this is harry you yeah
01:00:59.180
i remember you now you all the opportunity in the world to back up on a statement you made about an
01:01:06.320
hour ago okay go ahead this is on the gun stuff all right or the what you guys are calling 3d printed
01:01:11.840
guns and a lot of stuff you know cody and i know you guys don't really know this because you're not
01:01:16.160
really you know hardware guys or whatever but it it's very it takes everything i have not to buy
01:01:22.560
a new piece of equipment because i just love machinery yeah and and so i you know i mess around
01:01:28.160
with this stuff a lot the thing so number one what cody is selling it with defense distributed is not
01:01:36.640
3d printers he's selling a cnc milling machine that's that's so a lot of people and i know there's
01:01:42.900
also the 3d printing aspect additive yes but the cnc milling is is that you're taking away parts of
01:01:50.360
metal which you can do with a drill press and a hand to a hand work drilling machine and have been
01:01:55.340
able to do that for a hundred years sure but on top of that you part of your argument i think you
01:02:01.740
were just on the way out of a segment and you might have to this might have just been a throwaway
01:02:05.180
line but you said you know this stuff is already available at the patent office glenn that's the
01:02:11.360
point of the patent office oh no no hang on wait wait wait wait harry okay harry harry harry yes
01:02:17.160
you and i are on exactly the same page so i'm glad you called it is available the patent office
01:02:23.140
the patent is what made america and capitalism work it was i think the key to uh to capitalism
01:02:33.180
and if you're making that as an argument to to allow it hold on hold on hold on just a second
01:02:38.640
the so i agree with patents and being able to have the right to patents um and and is my main
01:02:48.380
argument with cody i am a guy who makes a product you know and i don't want people taking my product
01:02:55.580
and just taking it and stealing it and putting it everywhere and i mean we're so what so what do i get
01:03:01.480
and we've had that coming this call on my own channel later what'd you say i'm gonna be streaming
01:03:07.000
this call on my own channel later it's but i mean i'm i'm with you on that this is the argument that
01:03:13.020
i've had with cody you can't take other people's patents and just put them out online his argument
01:03:21.500
is well it's happening already it's going to well that's something that we should debate
01:03:27.400
and figure out how to protect people's patents and the right to their idea that's a separate
01:03:35.380
argument from uh the 3d printing and we just can't have we can't have people just you know
01:03:43.060
putting blueprints out online if they would have said because those are patented um uh and and uh and
01:03:53.220
and uh protected plans not because of safety but because of the individual that held that who came up
01:04:03.860
with that idea we're having a different argument what they're saying is you can't publish things
01:04:09.700
that are dangerous you can't publish and make your own gun well that's that's wholly different
01:04:16.340
that that that genie is is already out of the bottle you're not going to be able to put it back in
01:04:22.000
and i don't want anything anything to do with an argument that says it's illegal to publish something
01:04:30.340
right but i but you know they're going to try to conflate the two right and and i think that it
01:04:41.200
has to be two separate issues i agree with you i completely agree with you that's just not the way
01:04:46.420
that came across to me when you said that on the way out it came across like hey they're available so
01:04:51.280
who gives a crap you know oh no no i don't yeah i'm sorry for that harry uh yeah i mean you know but
01:04:56.640
but i mean when it comes to the patent issue i mean these are all all patents are the u.s patent
01:05:01.320
service you can search online right now i mean the what you're are you arguing against his ability
01:05:06.140
to sell them is that what i mean or because i thought he had i don't think i don't think he
01:05:11.300
and i don't and i i have not researched at that but i don't think he has gone on and let's say bought
01:05:19.080
a glock or a sig or whatever and and taken it apart and laser scanned it and then i don't think he's
01:05:24.680
doing that i think the stuff he's the g-code files he's selling are what they claim are their own dd
01:05:32.260
designs and so and so this is a this is an entirely different argument and i'm 100 with you but that
01:05:40.180
is that's where the corporations need to come out and say wait a minute you just can't take my drug
01:05:46.620
just because i've patented and you know the formula you just can't do that that's my formula
01:05:52.220
that's what this is all for that's that's a completely different argument than what is being
01:05:59.240
made currently by the press they're not making a capitalist uh argument for the protection of the
01:06:05.720
rights of ideas and and patents that's not what they're talking about at all you know a lot of this
01:06:11.820
and i'll just use chuck schumer as the as the coverall for all these idiotic statements about
01:06:17.820
you know oh guns are going to be everywhere and you get it won't be detectable and they won't be
01:06:21.580
when you'll be able to get a gun onto a onto a plane and this that and the other thing again
01:06:25.580
the cnc milling that's a hundred percent metal gun made exactly the way that sig or glock or whoever's
01:06:32.400
making it and and these other that sort of balloony looking giant i think you had one on the show and
01:06:39.080
and did you guys i can't remember if you shot it or not but no you mean the one made out of plastic
01:06:43.960
yeah the plastic no i'm not going to shoot that one i know that that's a whole separate argument
01:06:48.320
you know what's funny um buck last night had a guy call in and he says he i think he started out
01:06:54.560
his intro was like oh i'm an orphan from chicago or detroit or someplace and he says i grew up in a
01:06:59.680
real rough neighborhood he says i could make a i could make a zip gun in 10 minutes with 12 dollars
01:07:05.460
in parts and i can make them all day long and they'll fire you know for years and and so the
01:07:11.840
argument of of you know the illicit gun being out there is is just stupid and i i used to own a gun
01:07:21.320
it was lost in a fishing accident a long time ago yeah right and it's too bad when they drop in the
01:07:27.120
lake like that and i hear that happens a lot yeah it's happened to me a lot my entire collection was
01:07:34.520
dropped into a lake accidentally why did you bring them all fishing i don't understand i just i misunderstood
01:07:39.560
the idea of fishing i'm like i'm gonna get those damn fish oh and uh because they were we were going
01:07:44.400
for flying fish and i thought it was like you know i thought it was like duck hunting every time glenn
01:07:49.040
yelled pull a flying fish would shoot out of the water that's exactly right and all of the they fell
01:07:54.420
in the bottom of a very deep lake and have never been found anyway well i'm glad we cleared that up
01:08:00.240
because that that got under my skin right off the bat okay so harry let me let me ask you this
01:08:04.580
you have to listen to next hour because i'm gonna i'm gonna make my case uh you know here on on what
01:08:10.160
cody is doing uh and i will include to be very very clear on patents thank you for that um i can't
01:08:16.440
listen i'm gonna be rebroadcasting this well you can wait for a few minutes i mean i mean when your
01:08:23.040
audience has an audience it just kind of pisses you off you know what i mean just no way you should say
01:08:28.160
hey i'm i'm gonna um you know what you should do is you should rebroadcast this broadcast live on your
01:08:35.100
broadcast which would be i mean sure i have copyrights but what the hell you to run a promo
01:08:40.680
so harry one more thing what is the uh uh you know i i do want your i do want you to hold after this
01:08:50.940
because i do want to find out about your your podcasts and everything else but um uh tell me what
01:08:57.320
your stance is on the plastic guns well listen my my wife's father used to work for the fbi and we
01:09:06.960
got an internal tour about 20 years ago and and he took us all around up to that he was in um he was
01:09:15.400
in forensics and he took us up to the the guy that does all the the gun testing and all the all that
01:09:21.080
stuff yeah and and he's he's talking about this that and the other thing with the you know figuring out
01:09:26.680
the guns and and unscrewing when they when they get rid of the serial numbers and stuff like that
01:09:32.080
and i said wait there's no what what about the you know with the undetectability of polymers and
01:09:39.420
stuff and and he says oh no they can't do that i said wait a minute there's no no uh plastic or
01:09:46.040
whatever i mean i'm not a chemist uh a chemist but under the generic non-metal type stuff uh that can get
01:09:54.580
that can contain the blast of and he sort of looked it like you know when you when you catch a kid like
01:10:02.000
uh-oh and he sort of looked like that and i was like okay whatever you said you said there's not
01:10:08.340
and that was a long time ago right right so so it seems difficult for me to believe that there's not
01:10:17.120
already or very soon going to be sure a generic plastic again sure but should we have laws against
01:10:25.940
yeah there probably should be laws against undetectable guns
01:10:33.020
there probably should be it's interesting i mean the nra i think you know agrees uh the nra supported
01:10:39.860
the uh the the law that made them illegal that's what everybody is saying you know they're showing
01:10:45.740
these plastic guns on cnn they're like can people can make these no they're illegal if you make them
01:10:50.480
you go to jail they're illegal but the question is if you're a real constitutionalist that is an
01:10:57.540
infringement they didn't say only out of metal and wood right they didn't say that no no they did not
01:11:04.400
and it's it's an interesting question obviously a difficult one that is developed although i mean
01:11:08.820
it's the guidelines are clear you shall not be infringed and you know this this particular case that's
01:11:14.340
going on now is really more of a first amendment case that it is a second amendment case i mean
01:11:19.020
there's a second amendment ties to it but really this is about sharing information we all know bombs
01:11:24.320
are illegal but the anarchist cookbook uh and we're going to go over this in depth today on the tv show
01:11:28.900
but the anarchist cookbook is still legal uh if you can still go buy it you can still put information
01:11:33.740
out there it's what people do with that information that makes it legal or not yes and you know that is
01:11:38.840
now there are some obviously exceptions with private uh information and there's there's a
01:11:43.320
there's certain things out there that you can and can't do i just don't want to be a part of a country
01:11:48.220
that says you cannot publish these ideas or you cannot publish if you want to say you cannot publish
01:11:56.620
them because they are copywritten ideas right someone else owns them somebody else owns them that's a
01:12:01.900
different argument but to say well this is dangerous we cannot allow you to publish that is a
01:12:07.840
really bright red line that you never allow the government to cross
01:12:12.660
more on that uh coming up in a few minutes and uh pretty extensive tonight at five o'clock only on
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said you go in for just something like an oil change and then they come out and and and they say
01:12:33.940
well it's a little more than what do you mean what i didn't know i did did you have to do that
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if you if you're under warranty you're like okay cool if you're not well wait can you take that work
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it's good to hear from harry again i haven't heard from him in a long time he would he's been with us
01:13:56.460
for a very long time uh on this program when we started in uh tampa and i don't know how many people
01:14:01.220
are still with us from from the tampa it's like we're going on 20 years 19 years in january this show
01:14:09.660
will have been on that's insane that's just insane and if you've been with us the whole time
01:14:16.580
you're nuts but thank you thank you for that uh all right 3d printing guns what the media is saying
01:14:25.320
what the truth is and what the real argument should be next
01:14:30.080
glenn beck it's wednesday august 1st you're listening to the glenn beck program start yesterday
01:14:39.120
with something that chuck schumer said um as he was panicking about 3d printed guns listen carefully
01:14:45.620
sure as we're here today nothing is going to happen from this administration
01:14:48.960
we're going to have to pass legislation because they are just enslaved by the nra okay stop so what
01:14:59.040
did he just say he wants the president to do something about 3d printed guns that he's got to
01:15:07.000
stop the publishing of the blueprints on 3d printed guns and if he doesn't act then congress is just
01:15:14.340
going to have to well excuse me senator but if you know our constitution all laws are supposed to come
01:15:21.500
from you and then the president approves or vetoes on he doesn't enact laws you do so what do they do
01:15:31.560
they decided to enact a law here is what mike lee had to say within minutes of reading this bill from the senate
01:15:38.900
mr president reserving the right to object i first saw this legislation literally moments ago
01:15:43.840
and therefore haven't had adequate time to review it but i will say this any legislation that comes forth
01:15:52.040
from this body that begins with the following words will attract my attention and should attract the attention
01:15:58.120
of anyone who's concerned about our first amendment and other constitutional rights it begins with the
01:16:03.740
words it shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally publish that ought to be concerning
01:16:10.520
to us to each and every one of us democrats and republicans alike on that basis i object
01:16:15.860
thank god for mike lee anytime anytime any legislation is it is in it is unlawful
01:16:25.920
for you to knowingly publish i don't care what you follow that with it is unconstitutional and
01:16:32.760
unamerican that's not who we are now the problem is you have to ask yourself this one question do you
01:16:39.820
trust people do you trust people well more and more we are being told that we shouldn't trust people
01:16:48.020
even though violent crime is down even school shootings is way down dramatically down from the 1990s
01:16:54.940
we're told you can't trust anybody and we're starting to believe that so if you don't trust anybody well
01:17:00.980
then you've got to have a policeman walk around and say well you can't do that that's illegal
01:17:04.980
but where does freedom begin and end where does your right end freedom of speech where does it end
01:17:21.400
generally we rule that your right ends when you're starting to hurt other people or or take away their
01:17:33.120
rights that's when your freedom ends you hurt okay well these 3d printed guns they they kill no
01:17:42.400
killers kill the guns don't kill the printing doesn't kill the machine doesn't kill the bullet doesn't
01:17:53.080
so that means the printing of the guns or milling of a gun is legal milling already is this is just a new
01:18:03.040
way of milling so it's already legal now you're just introducing the cotton gin
01:18:09.460
okay now it's easy to do oh you want cotton in everybody's hands
01:18:15.560
well yeah it's already been invented you're not going backwards
01:18:18.820
now printing guns milling guns that's legal the question is whether you can publish the blueprints
01:18:28.040
and here's where an argument could be made printing and milling guns are fine but if you
01:18:35.920
are taking somebody's copy written material well then now now that hurts somebody that hurts the
01:18:42.040
inventor the one who put all of their time and toil into that to invent it and they have a copyright
01:18:47.520
on it this is what created america was the copyright now not everybody agrees with that but i do
01:18:54.000
this is why i would be against somebody saying well i could just print you know here's a lego
01:19:01.020
not lego well no you can't do that you can't do that you can't sell a louis vuitton purse it is
01:19:07.740
against the law do people do it yes will people print legos instead of going to the store yes they
01:19:13.280
will but then you have a whole nother set of problems right now we have a copyright so i don't
01:19:19.380
care if it's a glock or a lego the only argument that i can find is the copyright argument everything
01:19:28.400
else it doesn't hurt anybody's rights unless you use it to kill somebody
01:19:34.520
plastic guns well they're already banned should they be that's an argument we should be having
01:19:42.040
isn't that infringement of your rights but publishing this is what they're going after now
01:19:47.960
publishing it will be unlawful to publish these things tonight on television i'm going to show you
01:19:55.580
the anarchist cookbook this is one of the most vile books you can ever imagine it's gone through court
01:20:04.940
case after court case after court cases originally printed in 1972 you can buy it right now on amazon.com
01:20:10.720
or bonds barnes and noble it teaches you how to make ricin it teaches you how to pick locks it tells
01:20:16.580
you how to torture people it tells you how to build bombs everything well we can print that
01:20:22.360
oh you know it's been used by columbine it's been used by timothy mcveigh yeah yeah they had it
01:20:29.720
they bought it you know who else has a copy me it's not the book just because i have the book i'm not
01:20:37.580
making bombs i have the book that doesn't make me dangerous that makes me somebody who believes in
01:20:45.940
freedom of speech it makes me in my particular case a collector of odd and rare books okay
01:20:53.520
so should it be illegal no it's gone through court case after court case after court case
01:21:00.860
in fact the guy who wrote it was 19 years old he tried to stop it after he grew up and said this was a
01:21:08.820
huge mistake but he didn't own the copyright he didn't own the publishing rights and so he couldn't
01:21:16.800
stop it he wrote it but he sold the print the publishing rights it's still on the market today
01:21:24.100
we'll go into that later tonight but the guy who's brought us this conversation and it is an important
01:21:32.140
conversation because this is the beginning of the digital world is cody wilson he is the uh founder
01:21:39.480
of defense distributed cody how are you hey glenn happy to see you again yeah happy to talk to you
01:21:45.720
thanks for getting up for us i know you're you know you're kind of like yeah if i answer the phone
01:21:49.380
well i'll i'll talk if not look man i got i hit a wall pretty hard yesterday so i didn't you know i was
01:21:55.920
pretty late but yeah i have to tell you cody i i was watching cnn last night and honest to god
01:22:01.020
listening to them talk about this was like explaining hip-hop to my grandparents i mean it was
01:22:07.300
wow were they uh completely uh they were just completely on another uh another plane um tell me
01:22:16.120
how you respond to what's happening right now well i mean there's a legal response which i'm not sure
01:22:22.500
that you mean i think maybe you just mean how do i process yeah how do you freak out in the culture
01:22:28.340
yeah uh i don't know i look i'm bemused because it's at the beginning of the year they all congratulate
01:22:35.280
themselves meryl streep and tom hanks about the pentagon papers and the washington post bravery and
01:22:40.820
publishing right and then uh tell me about net neutrality and how they fear the internet will be
01:22:46.600
censored and then uh little old me comes around and they sure are glad that they can
01:22:51.740
i don't know make illegal all publishing does it does it chill you to the bone as much as it does
01:22:59.520
me when you hear you know the first lines of this bill where it makes it illegal and unlawful if you
01:23:07.300
knowingly publish fill in the blank no i i mean it doesn't i mean one that's that would just be an
01:23:14.160
obviously unconstitutional law now of course it had to be somebody like me that would get prosecuted on
01:23:19.380
something like that but i'm willing to do that um but i've been fighting chuck schumer on this
01:23:24.560
issue for years and in 2014 he tried to pass a bill in the name of security that would have made
01:23:29.740
it illegal to make a gun you know with or any gun part on a 3d printer so i mean these people are
01:23:36.440
craven and i suppose the only useful thing about what i'm doing right now is that look look at what
01:23:42.600
i have demonstrated these states these attorneys general 21 of them by the way these states are
01:23:48.800
telling you exactly where they are they believe it should be illegal for you to share this information
01:23:53.640
they believe it should be illegal for you to make a gun speak about making a gun i mean it's very clear
01:23:58.300
where these states are going to be within five years time within 10 years time get out if you live
01:24:04.400
behind the blue wall this isn't going to end you know this is going to somehow end with kavanaugh or
01:24:09.920
something they're going right for it they're going for keeps so cody are you a are you a a gun nut that's
01:24:17.760
like everybody's gonna have a gun or are you a guy who says the world is changing it's no longer 1959
01:24:25.900
anymore and this is just part of the new world and you have to you have to deal with it yeah i changed
01:24:35.500
i changed even some of the laws already like i for five years i fought a cold war a cold war rule
01:24:43.060
um that the state department had and i and i won uh last week that rule essentially changed
01:24:50.200
uh it was modified and soon a final rule will come out so that cold rule or that that cold war rule is
01:24:56.780
over and now right these these attorneys general have to face the fact that uh-oh there's actually
01:25:01.980
nothing now standing in between people sharing plans for guns on the internet and they're in a
01:25:06.440
mad rush to pull me into every court in the union and create some kind of law out of whole cloth
01:25:12.740
does this uh is this any different in your mind than somebody who is already milling their own gun
01:25:20.660
i mean you have to have you know you have to have your own machine shop to make a gun and you can make
01:25:26.160
a gun and you can get the plans to make a gun um and this isn't this just isn't the 3d printer or the
01:25:34.320
or the printer that you sell um which is actually not printing it but removing uh metal um isn't this
01:25:41.440
really the same thing it's just a modern way of doing it yeah this uh this settlement i got and this
01:25:46.940
ruling and the files i posted were actually files for everything kind of every way that you can make a
01:25:52.120
gun or just have the blueprints for guns so i actually only posted like one 3d printable gun
01:25:56.840
file you know the classic one that everybody knows about from a few years ago i posted that but most of
01:26:02.080
what i posted were just pure blueprints and three or four milling files you know these are these are
01:26:08.620
this is post-war technology this is some of the earliest computer code that's that's ever been
01:26:12.640
existed as long as there have been computers there have been gun companies using computers to assist them
01:26:18.420
in their manufacturing so these files are actually ancient in terms of you know the uh internet
01:26:23.260
timelines and stuff again it doesn't matter the subject is it completely escapes people uh people
01:26:30.540
don't want to understand it and of course it's very convenient for people like chuck schumer who can
01:26:35.080
in the name of public security try to throw death blows i guess at the uh at the second amendment and i guess
01:26:40.500
the first so i i i think we disagree on this um and i'd like to hear your argument um to make the case
01:26:49.020
i believe in copyright i i work my whole life i you know i write a book i don't like it when china just takes
01:26:58.300
my book and just rewrites it takes my name off of it and and i get i don't get paid for it um it's what made
01:27:05.200
the capitalist system work um you know if there are non-copywritten blueprints etc etc i don't think
01:27:12.020
that there's any there's any reason why you can't use them to print a gun um however uh when it comes
01:27:19.000
to a copyright if you're printing a gun perhaps for your own personal use maybe um but uh certainly not
01:27:27.640
for turning around and selling them doesn't this destroy the do you draw a line between things that
01:27:34.120
are out in the open already that are that are free from copyright and copywritten material
01:27:39.840
yeah i do in in the case of our in the case of this subject though copyright really only applies to
01:27:47.060
written blueprints or let's say instruction manuals things like that for the most part what we're what
01:27:53.300
we're concerned about are patents you know design patents utility patents things like that and design
01:27:58.400
patents actually have much shorter lives so in the case of the firearms world most of the patterns that
01:28:04.020
are pretty successful and that people use and the files related to guns are actually already expired
01:28:08.800
in terms of patent they're not protected okay so you didn't and i sorry you're using copyright
01:28:13.060
it's my business i'm not thinking patents um if what you have released and what you believe
01:28:19.740
should and can be released is not stuff that has been patented or not even released but not used
01:28:26.740
not made would you agree with the protection of the patent i decline i decline to patent any of our
01:28:33.460
technology and of course the really popular technologies like the ar-15 and these other
01:28:37.860
guns in 1911 these designs have been with us so long that thankfully no one has patent anymore
01:28:42.780
but what i was given the authority to do by the state department what's really important about what i was
01:28:48.160
given authority to do was to commit this information to the public domain to put it there is to make it
01:28:53.440
safe both from claims of of future patents and copyright but also from claims by the government that like
01:28:59.400
well you you can't post this anymore well sorry no it's actually considered in the public domain it's
01:29:03.800
now outside of the scope of these laws so in this sense avoiding intellectual property is actually one
01:29:09.720
of the safest ways to to preserve the information before the law um what about the plastic the
01:29:19.420
undetectable gun uh what would what do you mean the copyright on the gun no is there is there do you
01:29:26.680
i'm i'm trying to figure out you know this is everybody's talking about plastic guns undetectable
01:29:31.880
guns guns without serial numbers uh you know all of this stuff where is there a line at all
01:29:38.840
on the second amendment well what what the our opposition right i'll be in charitable here i'm not
01:29:46.640
calling them our our our earnest enemy i'm not calling them domestic enemies of the constitution
01:29:52.740
the united states i'm calling them our opposition what they believe is that they can use this issue
01:29:58.760
and talk about undetectability but pass laws about traceability so that they can end up creating laws
01:30:05.840
that make sure that no matter what if you make a gun in this country it's either illegal or you have
01:30:09.860
to tell the state about it and that's never been the law in this country and it never should be
01:30:14.780
yeah that came in the 1960s okay cody uh hang on just for a second cody wilson uh the founder of uh
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this is the most important conversation america can have today with cody wilson instead of speculating
01:31:49.700
instead of uh trying to guess what he is doing and what he believes talk to him and yourself cody
01:31:55.700
wilson the founder of defense distributed cody first of all correction you say i was wrong on something
01:32:00.940
oh i don't know if it's what you meant but okay there is a there's a law from the 1960s
01:32:07.460
called the gun control act and it is a law that requires a serial number to be put on a gun
01:32:12.280
but only if that gun is made by a commercial manufacturer dealer or distributor correct so
01:32:19.120
americans american individuals your listeners at home have the legal right to make a gun for
01:32:24.380
themselves for their own use right and they don't have to put a serial number on it that's
01:32:28.380
that's what i just wanted to make sure was clear yeah we're on the same we're on the same thing
01:32:33.260
everybody has a right to do this themselves right now the deal is is do you have the expertise
01:32:38.640
and and the equipment to do it and 3d printing they're trying to make it sound like everybody
01:32:44.420
can be just run out and buy one of these printers which you could you could but you could also get the
01:32:49.600
milling machine and and make one yourself as well it's pretty expensive too i mean they make it seem
01:32:54.600
like this is the easiest thing in the world um cody i'm curious one of the parts points that keeps
01:32:59.000
being brought up against you is the idea that we should not have the right and we don't have the
01:33:05.420
right to create a gun out of plastic that cannot be detected by metal detectors how do you react to
01:33:12.020
that well there i mean there's a law in the books about this although there's never it's never really
01:33:17.160
been serious there's never been enforcement about it it was it was passed when the glock was brought to
01:33:21.840
market and brady it used to be called handgun control incorporated right got this law passed
01:33:28.080
but now it's a real law like on accident almost like i agree i think we can we can pass laws at
01:33:34.800
some level that conform with our security norms but remember there were there were never metal
01:33:38.600
detectors in the 1700s and uh we made it okay we made it guys so but can all can every piece of a gun
01:33:48.580
be made out of plastic the springs the the the firing pins i mean the bullets don't doesn't that
01:33:54.860
show up on i mean wouldn't a bullet show up yes of course um now this gun can be this is probably the
01:34:01.880
most plastic a gun's ever been made out of at least i don't know in a outside of the dod and like the
01:34:07.340
spy games or cold war right i've heard rumor of and i've had years to meet many people who told me
01:34:12.600
about famous composite guns in the spy games of the cold war but yeah but no you need you need
01:34:18.400
metal to to have a firing pin metal in your in your cartridges your ammo okay cody thank you very much
01:34:24.520
thanks for talking to us today and uh we'll keep checking in and following your progress cody wilson
01:34:29.620
so pat gray joins us um i'm just resisting what am i resisting i don't know collectivization of
01:34:40.100
manufacture institutionalization of the human psyche i'm not sure but i do know one thing yeah
01:34:46.400
it's a symbol of reversibility that the gun will never be eradicated from the face of the earth
01:34:50.820
i do know that off the top of his head off the top of his head that's how many times we've played
01:34:55.140
that yeah he's so much more likable now than he was then yeah cody cody wilson was with us how long
01:35:01.460
ago was it five six years ago yeah it was six years when we first started talking remember how crazy it
01:35:05.940
was to talk about 3d printing yeah and uh first started talking about it and saying look this is
01:35:10.320
going to play a role we found him we got him in he brought in those the plastic you know guns and
01:35:16.360
everything else uh and uh since that time he has become uh really quite important in the world
01:35:24.260
uh and we've we had him on and did you hear his last interview with us the time before last i was
01:35:29.620
here yeah for that did we fill it in first too i loved him because he's good yeah i said i played
01:35:36.180
that quote for him i don't know what am i resisting and he said look i was 25 i said i said to him have
01:35:43.380
you ever figured out what you were resisting he just he laughed he was so he didn't take himself
01:35:48.980
quite as seriously yeah as he did back and he just said on the air look you know there are there
01:35:54.520
probably laws that should be written for to comply with our safety norms okay when we were talking
01:36:00.900
about plastic guns yeah um so he's not a hard line on that and also when it came to patent it seemed
01:36:07.160
like he was not a hard line on patents either where if i'm not mistaken the last of the first time i
01:36:12.900
spoke to him he was like i don't believe in patents well okay well if you don't believe in patents
01:36:17.620
and copyrights well i mean what am i gonna he's an anarchist yeah so you wouldn't right but he
01:36:22.280
he seemed to didn't he i don't want to put words in his mouth but he seemed to be kind of okay with
01:36:27.300
he was saying that everything i'm releasing is it has no patent on it seemed to be a more you know
01:36:32.560
mainstream view on that because you're like an anarcho-capitalist a lot of times they'll talk
01:36:36.440
about patents negatively yeah um but that's it's an interesting thing i mean his point however on the
01:36:41.660
idea that there weren't metal detectors in the 1700s i think is a is a key one here when you're
01:36:47.160
talking about plastic guns it's like well the founders didn't say well we you're right to create
01:36:53.620
guns shall not be or bare arms shall not be infringed as long as it's the proper exact materials we have
01:36:58.660
of today like they didn't say that like they it shall not be infringed the idea that they would be
01:37:04.240
like well if it's made out of plastic or some other uh material then of course obviously you can
01:37:10.120
ban them is a i don't know i don't know what legal basis that is i mean it might seem logical
01:37:16.340
and pragmatic but i don't know where that comes out of the constitution yeah i'm just looking up
01:37:20.500
on the deal federal judge blocks distribution of blueprints for creating plastic guns on 3d printers
01:37:24.960
okay well okay you don't have to create a plastic gun it doesn't have to be made out of plastic
01:37:32.000
and what right do you have how can you block freedom of speech and publishing you can't and i
01:37:40.400
can't take twitter facebook fox news cnn i can't take anybody on this because nobody knows what the
01:37:49.500
hell they're talking about i really i watched i think it was wolf i don't remember who it was
01:37:55.060
trying to explain 3d printed guns to his audience and it was grandpa trying to explain hip-hop i mean
01:38:04.540
it was oh my gosh it's it really is embarrassing oh uh there's a there's a great article that came
01:38:12.300
out speaking of this you made this point a couple times in this way which made me think of this story
01:38:15.480
that came out i think pat you talked about it recently um of how to explain rap music to an older
01:38:22.940
generation and kind of trying to make a comparison of like because it's to me i don't under i don't
01:38:28.620
i'm not a not a big fan of rap yeah and so i don't i don't necessarily understand like what these
01:38:35.020
guys roles are in relationship to each other yeah i mean like i haven't put a lot of thought into it
01:38:39.860
a lot of people say to me kanye west is a genius i hear it all the time yeah i just look i mean now i
01:38:44.960
guess you know a lot of people in the audience might like him because of his trump support but let's take
01:38:48.660
that out for a second he has not to me uh shown the that he leans genius all that often he might
01:38:57.440
lean genius in the who should i marry yeah kind of way seem to make a very good financial decision
01:39:04.160
at the very least in that i mean the the kardashians are they are marketing geniuses they are yeah perhaps
01:39:10.200
you guys haven't heard his latest song oh lift yourself up i i haven't do do you have the you have
01:39:16.440
the lyrics you talk about genius in in the final verse i mean it's so you can't argue just read it
01:39:25.040
yeah go ahead poopy de scoop scoop diddy whoop whoop de scoop de poop poop de scoop de scoop de
01:39:37.420
whoop whoop whoop poop poop poop diddy whoop whoop diddy whoop diddy scoop
01:39:49.900
no i mean i mean i can't believe you can't deny the genius of that you can't deny it she loves me
01:39:57.720
yeah yeah yeah oh i'll take that over poopity scoop anything i mean wham bamma lemma whatever that
01:40:06.140
over whoopity scoop all right all right anyway unreal uh but this is kind of interesting because
01:40:12.940
there was just a an article written about uh how because today's rappers uh the the most famous ones
01:40:25.900
like the the godfathers of rap like jay-z they're getting a little long in the tooth now and so
01:40:32.240
they're getting to the point where our classic rock artists were getting for like me and you glenn um
01:40:37.540
and so an article was just written comparing the uh dad rock bands like the rolling stones would be a
01:40:45.620
dad rock band because your your dad liked the rolling stones to dad rap bands or artists because
01:40:52.940
some of these guys have been around for 25 30 years like jay-z so they compare jay-z is uh is the
01:41:00.440
dad rap just like the rolling stones are dad rock so jay-z is the rolling stones okay but not yet
01:41:07.640
right well i don't know he says now yeah both are legends so if you grew up loving uh jay-z
01:41:16.000
mm-hmm he's he's like you're rolling stones and they're that old i mean well i mean like when we
01:41:23.180
were 49 now so with us in the 80s 49 he's 49 yeah or 90s even he's yeah okay wow all right uh m&m
01:41:31.540
is the eagles marshall mathers like glenn fry is a detroit native who works out his petty issues with
01:41:39.680
witchy women who have lion eyes by making absurdly popular stadium filling uh jock jams later when he
01:41:48.580
sought a late career boost uh on 2013's the marshall mathers lp2 he sampled joe walsh strategy that also
01:41:56.720
worked for the eagles when they hired joe walsh right before making their most popular album hotel
01:42:01.500
california okay um drake would be akin to tom petty uh tom petty he drake is the rare rapper who
01:42:11.540
makes sense in the context of the older gen x stars and the soundcloud kids um tom petty had a
01:42:18.460
similar dynamic as a cross-generational icon yeah that's true in that he could hang with musicians
01:42:24.060
10 years older or 10 years younger and apparently drake does that same thing okay uh kendrick lamar
01:42:30.720
is bruce springsteen uh kendrick this is this is this is something i never kind of amazing this is
01:42:38.280
something i never thought would ever spill out of my mouth or i've even feel i kind of feel bad for
01:42:43.740
bruce springsteen on that well i mean i don't know much about kendrick lamar but can he also not sing
01:42:49.180
christmas carols is that why they're i'm not sure of that i've never heard of kendrick lamar christmas
01:42:55.100
carol you've heard the bruce springsteen but i've heard the bruce springsteen one way too many
01:42:58.800
stinking times yeah when when when can they stop i would like it to have been about 30 years ago but
01:43:05.020
i'm not going to get my wish on that never approaches the correct note in that song at any
01:43:09.200
time once he's as close to he's as close to a correct note as like you know uh like a jehovah's
01:43:15.840
witnesses to christmas right like they don't celebrate it right so it's like it's like he's
01:43:20.420
just not he is not even attempting seemingly to get close to the tune of the song at any time
01:43:26.500
during it so you've got santa claus is coming to town that should never be played christmas and
01:43:30.280
you've got uh born in the usa which should never be played on the fourth of july never it's so
01:43:36.980
anti-american and everybody plays it regardless they just don't because it says usa in it it must be
01:43:44.720
patriotic nope nope the chance in iran they're talking about america it must be very patriotic
01:43:58.140
interesting uh kanye west is david bowie is in this article as well where they both were super
01:44:06.820
controversial and then everyone said they loved him at the end that's pretty similar to both the
01:44:11.260
career path of both of those guys it's kind of interesting i don't know i i really don't and
01:44:17.440
beastie boys are led zeppelin so you know i go back to kanye with uh david bowie
01:44:24.180
it does kind of work it does kind of work i mean think of david bowie didn't become big until
01:44:31.800
ziggy stardust are you familiar with any of this yeah yeah i mean so ziggy stardust and you know he
01:44:37.240
can't get he can't get arrested and he's coming over to the united states and he decides i need to
01:44:42.820
hire a pr firm and we're just gonna you know get a group and we're just gonna we're gonna make up this
01:44:48.060
artist and we're gonna call all of the papers and all of the you know rolling stone and all of the
01:44:54.180
clubs and say we hear ziggy stardust is coming in from london is that true and so they start getting
01:45:00.140
all these calls and they're like i don't even heard of these are things that could not happen in the
01:45:04.920
internet era right yeah yeah yeah and so they he comes over and uh ziggy stardust is here and it's
01:45:10.680
all the show and he shows up at these clubs and everybody starts covering him and boom there's
01:45:16.240
david bowie i mean so he's kind of i mean you know he starts on a he starts with a sham i don't know
01:45:22.920
that kanye west had the let's dance portion of the david bowie's career though like dancing was a
01:45:29.420
dancing in the street right wasn't that him as well no i think it was just let's dance well there's let's
01:45:34.060
dance was one of them right and then he did the duet with mick jagger the really terrible famously
01:45:38.180
terrible video oh i don't even remember that i may block that no i may have thought i've got to
01:45:43.280
watch that in the break you'll love it yeah it's a it's like the word known as one of the worst music
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videos of all time okay you don't need to inflict it on me i've probably blocked it you're gonna love
01:45:52.280
it you're gonna love it here this is horrible try this um just a bite okay air pollution in national
01:45:58.620
parks is as bad as the top 20 major cities in the u.s wow really let's go out and get some fresh air
01:46:06.000
why is that because they're downwind of you know air pollution sources you know agricultural uh
01:46:13.660
sources industry major highways urban pollutants i mean actually this i think is a good thing i mean
01:46:21.880
i think this is this says something that our national parks are the air quality is about the same as our
01:46:28.780
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glenn back i just got a note from a friend uh at drd tactical if and if you've never seen drd tactical
01:47:58.220
uh guns they are great i own uh uh uh well until i lost them at the bottom of the lake i owned
01:48:05.580
quite a few of them um but they are they're great guns anyway so he writes in he says uh glenn patent
01:48:12.140
diagrams online or on paper do not have any dimensions so it's not possible to look at a
01:48:17.540
patent diagram to make a firearm receiver two 3d solid model files are for ar lowers and uh and
01:48:24.800
others have been on line for the last seven to ten years just search and you'll get the 3d file
01:48:30.260
three 3d solid model file is the only way to program a cnc metal machine and use it on a 3d printer to
01:48:38.120
print a receiver from a plastic from plastic or metal also not sure how many plastic guns can fire
01:48:45.020
more than one round with chamber pressures anywhere from 10 000 to 56 000 psi uh especially the uh
01:48:53.040
especially the barrel and the bolt would have to be heat treated metal or it is one round per gun
01:49:00.040
and a trip to the hospital um i have five patents a six one applied for if someone used tries to copy
01:49:07.760
us in the u.s our patented parts we could sue them but overseas it's impossible to do so u.s military
01:49:14.800
m240 m249 uh m2hb belt-fed machine guns have been knocked off by other countries being sold in the
01:49:22.860
international market these guns are older designs patents have run out so anyone can make them
01:49:27.540
when my patents expire it'll become open ip and anyone can duplicate and make money
01:49:33.420
i mean so all you have to do now is decide where does freedom begin and where does freedom end
01:49:43.640
the senate is trying to pass a bill that says it will be unlawful for you to unknow for you to
01:49:53.240
knowingly publish fill in the blank doesn't matter what it says after that
01:49:58.540
it's at the very least uh should cause you hesitation as it did for mike lee in the senate yesterday
01:50:05.620
uh i mean you know because obviously if it's the publish and it's child porn right like there's a
01:50:10.400
reason to to stop that um but can i can we make can we can we just maybe we should do a show and get
01:50:18.120
some people on here that can make the case for instance why is child why is child porn wrong
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okay okay child porn is wrong because you have children involved making videos right okay um if
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you do cgi and there are no children involved is it still against the law yeah this because this
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went to with the supreme court at one point right a few years ago and then the question should be
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yes or no okay why and where does where again where do those lines begin and end because
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everything is changing now absolutely everything is changing it's why i've been saying for a while
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we've got to brush up on the difference between right and wrong and know what our principles are
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because everything's going to be challenged absolutely everything you know is going to be
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