Inside The Insane $1.7 Trillion Omnibus Bill | Guest Host: Justin Barclay | 12⧸23⧸22
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Summary
SPF is out of jail, Sam Bankman has been released, and the $1.7 Trillion Omnibus Bill is on its way to passage in the House of Representatives. The Cary Lake trial has wrapped up, and more on all of it coming up today on the Glenn Beck Program with Justin Barclay ( )!
Transcript
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We've got to stand together at the chorus of night
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What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.
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And it's Justin Barclay in for Glenn today on the Glenn Beck Program.
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Normally this time of year, everything just sort of screeches to a halt.
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But no, no, they're even working on Capitol Hill today.
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A vote happening in the House, a $1.7 trillion pork-filled omnibus package.
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Justin Barclay in for Glenn Beck today on the Glenn Beck Program.
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You can connect with me at JustinBarclay, B-A-R-C-L-A-Y dot com.
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You know, it's kind of Friday going into the Christmas holiday.
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I think it'd be good to take a few calls today and hear from you, particularly among
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this, the different topics, the $1.7 trillion pork-stuff omnibus bill that they have, they
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If you want to join the program, love to hear from you.
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And we'll, we'll chat as things, uh, as move forward here in the program.
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I just wanted to kind of break down for you so you can kind of understand what is in this.
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We talked a bit about this yesterday and we've been talking about it.
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I just want to give you a picture though, when you think of a trillion dollars, because
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we get into numbers like this, and we'll talk more about this later in the hour, but
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you get into numbers like this and you just kind of lose track of how much a trillion actually
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Somebody called the other day and gave me the breakdown.
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I said, look, you know, it's, it's, it's unimaginable.
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It's hard to think about, but a trillion dollars, if, if you're going to count to a trillion,
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like a trillion seconds, you just started counting a trillion seconds from here on out,
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it would take 37,000 years to get there a trillion.
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So that's how much money again, we're just signing off on, you know, the sure this won't
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I'm sure it won't, uh, it's, you know, no, of course not.
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It couldn't possibly have any impact on the cost of everything as we move forward.
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And I don't know if you saw, but SPF was arrested.
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He was brought into the country and now SPF has been let, he, well, he's been freed.
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Sam Bankman freed has been freed and he is out.
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And I guess that with this big story about how much bail, $250 million and rightfully
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so people started questioning, there's that much money out there.
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Well, the truth behind that whole ordeal and what actually took place is something altogether
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different, uh, different, it turns out he just gets to hang out probably in his PJs very
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similarly to, um, what Zelensky did when he came in, when he came into Congress, picking
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Uh, yeah, no, he gets, gets, gets to hang in his PJs at his parents' house apparently until
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So that's, that's what we got to look forward to.
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Day two of the Cary Lake trial has wrapped up and the Cary Lake trial down in Arizona, some
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She gave a statement yesterday outside of the courthouse.
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I am so incredibly proud of our amazing attorneys and staff that put this amazing case together,
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We proved without a shadow of a doubt that there was malicious intent that caused disruption
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so great it changed the results of the election.
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I'm incredibly proud of, of both Brian Blem and Kurt Olson who led up this legal team.
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The other side brought in activists to try to save face.
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They admitted that they've known about these ballot problems, the ballot problems, now they're
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trying to say that it's been going on for three elections.
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And I am so happy to stand up and say no longer will we as Americans put up with this.
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We demand fair, honest, transparent elections, and we will get them.
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I think that he really took in all of that information.
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I think he listened very closely to what happened.
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And I am fighting for the people of Arizona, but not just for the people of Arizona.
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I'm fighting for the people of this country and for our future.
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If we don't have honest elections where we decide who represents us, then we don't have a country anymore.
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And, you know, the, you know, the defendants, their attorney said it in his closing, in his closing statement.
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I can't imagine what she must be thinking about and going through right now.
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Who knows how that's going to play out waiting.
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But some of the headlines, a day two now wrapped, the trial wrapped all together.
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This was a quick try to get it out, try to get it done as quickly as possible.
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Just to think about this, what was actually happening down in Arizona.
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And, well, we kind of lose track of some of these things because we get wrapped up in the day-to-day.
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One of the experts testifying about the key problem.
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And one of the things that I saw, the numbers are right here.
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They allowed Carrie Lake's people, the judge allowed, because this is Arizona law, in fact.
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But, you know, folks are saying, wait a minute, 15, that's not enough.
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But even in the 15, they found, and this is something, in the ones they looked at,
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particularly, I believe it's Maricopa County, the one in question.
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But the ones they looked at, they found 14 of the 15.
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Mainly that this ballot, 20-inch paper, but the image of the ballot projected onto the paper,
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that's what happens when you make a copy or something.
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No matter if you're putting something at your house or wherever this might be.
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But the 19-inch image projected on a 20-inch piece of paper was the issue.
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That was the problem, and apparently, that's what caused all the issues in the printer.
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And when they went to go scan the ballots through the system, when the people had voted,
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they had filled out their bubbles and everything, and they go scan it through,
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Thousands of people sent, wondering that day, whether or not, sent home wondering whether or not,
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their vote is even going to count, whether or not it even counted at all.
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And they said, oh, no, just go ahead and put everything, put everything in this,
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You know, they call it drop, what's it, box three or whatever they called it.
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And people walked out wondering, what in the world happened?
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Folks disenfranchised, and in fact, who knows the truth on that?
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And yet, we learned some startling things in the trial, as you just heard her mention.
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Now, here's a really particularly sticky, I would think, legal issue for Katie Hobbs.
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Now, I don't know how much traction this will get.
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Abe Hameday, which is the, the attorney, the man running for attorney general,
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he also got to go to trial, waiting for the results of that trial.
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Brnovich, could look into this as well, because there is a, there's a sticky legal situation here.
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We'll get into all of that coming up in just a moment.
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Now that we've got the, we've heard from the experts, we've heard the testimony,
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I don't know if there's, if there's, I don't know what the legal process would be.
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I don't think that, that would be part of that.
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But what, what do you do now that you've got all this information?
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Sparkly, and for Beck today, Justin Barkley on the Glenn Beck program.
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Yeah, we're following the storm, the weather, and all of this snowpocalypse.
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We'll talk about that, I'm sure, at some point today.
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But I will tell you, it's wild because this global warming, it's just had the complete
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We're broadcasting to you live from in West Michigan.
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Grand Rapids, high atop, and right now it's white out outside my windows.
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Even lower in some places to the south of us, which is wild.
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But this thing is causing some issues for a lot of folks traveling.
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So we'll talk about that coming up here in just a little bit.
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It's not warm here anyway, I can tell you that much.
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Now, 42% of ballots causing chaos, a key issue, they said, amongst the 113 examined, 48 of
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them had this problem, 19-inch ballots produced on 20-inch paper.
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Now, here's the big issue, and this may be a legal issue for Katie Hobbs, who was the
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secretary of state, oversaw her own election to the governor in Arizona.
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You know, there should never be even an appearance of impropriety in any of these elections, in
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There should never even be an appearance of it.
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And yet, that appears, it's all we have these days.
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You know, you got questions, anytime you got questions about something, you're called crazy,
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and the FBI now calling people conspiracy theorists when you're looking at the Twitter files,
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the things that are dumped out, well, I digress, but this is what we're seeing in every story
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Then you say, well, what's the problem with that?
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Well, the issue isn't just that she certified her own election that she oversaw, but she certified
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it, and apparently what just came out in this trial, and we know this now, is that she certified
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In fact, I don't know that we were supposed to find that out.
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I don't know that anybody was supposed to know what exactly happened with these ballots.
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In this Cary Lake trial down in Arizona, we would have never known.
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You would have run around saying, well, that's, you know, that's odd that all these people
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All these people, they went to go vote, and then it went through the scanner, and it would
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pop out, and they don't know whether their vote counted.
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You said, well, that's a little, yeah, certainly that's a little strange.
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But, you know, you might have said, it's just a glitch.
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There's just a little glitch, or you might have just kind of shrugged it off.
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It turns out, the only reason we find out what caused that glitch is because this thing
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went to trial, and they got to inspect the ballots, and they actually found out what
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Now, your question, and the same as mine, and I understand, I feel the same way.
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Well, Katie Hobbs knowingly certified an election that had issues.
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Not just in this case, but in all the cases when we look at some of the problems that we
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I'm going to try and work as many phone calls as I can in today.
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So, election issues, whether you want to call it fraud, whatever you want to call it,
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We know for a fact at least one of the problems in Arizona.
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I don't really know, but I know that I live in upstate New York, a very small town, and
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we had the same thing happening in our very small town.
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It was my first time voting, so I was kind of just getting used to everything, but walking
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in, I heard a couple old-timers kind of being like, how many times did your thing try
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to go through, and the guy said four times, and I was like, what are these guys even talking
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So, I stood in line, and I get to the thing, and it's clearly a strong, it's a black box,
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a very strong black box with a lock on it, Scantron.
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The lady goes, all right, put your vote in, you know, Scantron sheet goes in, spits it
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She goes, hand me that, we'll count that by hand later.
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It goes behind the desk in a box, and that was it.
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This is literally in small town, rural upstate New York, and I was kind of like, I wanted
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to ask this lady, like, how do I know what you're doing with this vote?
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Like, this machine here is clearly made to make sure my vote goes and does whatever it's
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And, you know, it's interesting you bring this up, because you're seeing it in New York,
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I mean, just personally for you, did that, did that, like, restore your confidence in
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Did that, did that do anything to make you feel better that your vote was going to be
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Honestly, because it was also my first time voting, I was, yeah, I was kind of shocked.
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I mean, if the box, if the machine I was putting in wasn't so clearly made to be, like, unbreakable,
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To go from this machine that's made to take this ballot and, you know, make sure nobody
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can tamper with it, to handing it to a woman I've never seen before to go behind the desk.
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I mean, it was like, I thought it was like a game show or something.
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It was like someone was going to come out and be like, I was just kidding.
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New York was extremely close for the first time in how long.
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I mean, I mean, if this happened to how many people in upstate New York, just in small
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towns dotted around upstate New York, I mean, I'm not some voter fraud, conspiracy
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When things are not right, things are not right.
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We've got to get this back on track because if we don't stop this, if we don't solve this
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I've heard so many people ask, like, what's the point?
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We've got to continue to fight the fight, folks.
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But at the same time, we've got to solve these problems and we've got to solve them for
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Too much blood has been spilled to make sure that this process works safely, securely, and
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But the Senate voted to pass that $1.7 trillion on the bus.
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Later today, we'll talk about that, what's inside of it, and more all coming up in moments
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Back on for Beck, it's Justin Barclay now on the Glenn Beck Program.
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Taking several calls today, too, because, you know, it's the last day before Christmas.
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Just looking and hearing some of the temps around here.
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Not as bad as what we thought we were going to get here, or that they told us what we
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And I know that it will not be causing travel issues for those in Congress who are voting
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Congressman Bill Huizinga from Michigan joins us now.
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Congressman, you got the Senate just passed this $1.7 trillion omnibus bill.
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It is just a pork-filled ... I just ... I've been looking at the ...
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Well, apparently it's also stuffed with lobster, because there's money in here for favorite
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It's salmon's in there like 47 different times and funded the $3 million for a bee-friendly
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I'm all about pollination, and we've had issues with bees, but how in the world do you make
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And here's sort of the insult to injury, right?
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So, constitutionally, all these spending bills have to originate in the House.
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We're not even pretending to do appropriations processes anymore, and we're just sending these
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big beginnings of turd burgers over to the Senate.
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They add in their spices and secret sauce and earmarks and all the other good stuff, and
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then they drop it back in our lap with no ability to amend it, review it, anything.
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Those of us that are here not voting by proxy ... By the way, it is almost half of the U.S.
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I don't believe it's legal or constitutional, so I am here.
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I have not voted proxy once in this entire time that Pelosi has been using this as a
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And this is the worst parts of how this system is broken, is being shown to the folks.
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So, I got to ask you, Congressman Bill Heisinger, you guys are going to vote.
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Uh, rules committee is going to be going in at 10 o'clock.
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They're supposedly doing an expedited, uh, uh, rule committee.
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And so, each bill that comes to the floor has to have a rule.
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So, we're going to have our first vote probably somewhere at no earlier than 1030, probably
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Um, and then there will be either an hour or maybe two hours of debate, uh, on this, uh,
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And then, uh, some procedural votes that are going to be happening.
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So, it'll probably be somewhere between noon and two o'clock today.
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Uh, and then, uh, then, uh, I'm trying to get back to Michigan, uh, see my family.
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So, uh, I rented a, uh, Ram, uh, uh, pickup four wheel drive and, uh, I'm, I'm driving
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home because all the flights are getting canceled.
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Well, good luck to you and God bless because, uh, it's going to be a fun drive.
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But, you know, I still think it'd probably be a lot easier than dealing with what you
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Here's, here's some of the statistics of what we're looking at over, uh, over a hundred
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billion dollars after this thing gets passed on, uh, spent on the Ukraine war once this
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And, uh, you know, you can talk about whether or not, you know, we should be, uh, fighting
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this fight and how much money we should be spending.
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And, and, uh, you know, Zelensky came over in his PJs the other day and spoke to you guys
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in Congress, which is just crazy to me on the floor of the house that a guy is in a sweatshirt.
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I don't know if you want to comment on that or not, but yeah, well, we're not allowed
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to go, uh, onto the house floor dressed like that.
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It, the, the, the rules require us to be in a coat and tie.
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And, uh, it, there, there was actually a fair amount of, uh, you know, not to get too petty,
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but it was like, okay, dude, you couldn't, you couldn't put a tie on.
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And I understand it's, it's about the optics and he's wanting to look like he's in the
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That's the problem that this is all optics and American people are seeing through this.
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So if spending a hundred billion in Ukraine and won't spend the penny to secure our border,
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Well, and that's, and that's, you know, again, going back to this Omni, that's, that's exactly
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You know, we are, we are spending, uh, money in the middle East, uh, for border security.
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We're spending it around the world, but we will not allow, uh, those resources to be used
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on our own Southern border and, uh, it's a crisis.
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I mean, there is no other word that you can use other than absolute crisis and disaster,
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And it's going to get worse if the courts don't, uh, keep title 42 in place.
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I mean, and we, we know that there's a record number of, uh, of, of crossings that have happened
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Interestingly enough, uh, CBP has not, uh, released the November numbers yet.
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We're 23 days into, uh, into December, they won't release the November numbers.
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It's because, uh, they're political and they don't want this to look worse than what it
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Uh, and, uh, and it's, if we don't have the border integrity, all right, knowing who and
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what is coming across our border, um, that, uh, that is a recipe for disaster.
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And, uh, and this administration is standing by, uh, just, uh, encouraging it.
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Justin Barkley and for Glenn Beck today in the Glenn Beck program, we're talking with Congressman
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Bill Heisinger out of, uh, West Michigan, and he'll be there voting on the floor today.
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I just thought, I thought I wanted to make that clear.
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I thought that's, uh, that's what the answer is.
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So, and one of the things that I think a lot of us have frustration is why didn't they
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just let this slide so that when Republicans take over here, uh, in January, we could, we
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could work it out and have a little more leverage to do some of the things that need to be done,
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uh, particularly when it comes to the border, et cetera.
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One of the things I know folks want to see is oversight on a lot of these issues.
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And, and what we're hearing now, what's happening with Twitter and the statement the FBI put
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Uh, Congressman Heisman, this, this, this, I don't know.
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Well, you know, look, this is J Edgar Hoover type stuff, right?
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I mean, this, you have to be scratching your head.
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If you're a, a, a regular American, uh, looking at this and just even sort of casually paying
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And you have to wonder how the, how these governmental agencies have gotten so out of control and have,
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uh, have really put our own constitutional, uh, rights and privileges, uh, under attack.
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Now, you know, one of the, one of the perverse elements of, uh, passing this, uh, omnibus
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this way, by the way, it should have been done.
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I mean, this, this was, uh, this is continuing funding for this current fiscal year, which
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So we should have had this all wrapped up in September.
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Um, uh, but nonetheless, uh, here's what it, uh, here's what funding all these governmental
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agencies through the remainder of this fiscal year through September, uh, means they don't
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have to come to Congress, uh, for our oversight requests, right?
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Uh, there's not going to be any pressure on that.
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So we're going to have to figure out how we apply that pressure properly and constitutionally
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as we are supposed to, um, uh, to make sure that we've got those answers.
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And so whether it's the FBI or, or a lot of the work that I do, uh, is with the Securities
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and Exchange Commission and their ESG agenda, uh, that environmental, social, and governance,
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uh, uh, garbage that they're trying to force, uh, not only onto publicly traded companies,
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And what, what things like that mean for our economy moving forward.
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So there's, there's a lot of very, very serious issues that we have to tackle.
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Uh, the, the power of the purse is, um, one of the main tools that, uh, that Congress
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We have abdicated and given that up, uh, for decades, frankly, now, and it's just gotten
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Congressman Bill Heisinger, let me ask you before you go, you're, you're also going to
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be overseeing some of this, this SPF FTX thing.
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They got this guy back in the U S but, but, but that's not really the story.
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The truth is he's going to go hang out at his mom and dad's $4 million home.
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And they put some of the equity of that thing, uh, up and that's how he got it.
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This guy's going to be hanging out in his flip flops, probably got his, uh, Zelensky, uh,
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uh, sweatshirt on or, or I don't know what he's, but he's going to be in his PJs, you
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And, and, you know, look, this is the, uh, the, the worst parts of Enron's business
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Uh, and this is just outright fraud and, uh, the, the notion that, uh, these, these really
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kids had any business running these multi-billion dollar and multi-national companies, uh, is
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They used QuickBooks for their, uh, yeah, which is like, it was a decent program and you just
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don't want to use it for a billion dollar companies.
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And multinational, uh, you know, uh, international trades going on.
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And, uh, you know, at the, at the end of the day, um, the institutional investors who
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supposedly are very savvy investors, uh, got, uh, got sucked into this.
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They found a politically progressive, very smart, uh, entrepreneur who was going to quote
00:31:15.660
unquote, re-imagine capitalism and, uh, and all while making them gobs of money.
00:31:21.540
Well, and they also sent half of it back to Maxine Waters and the rest of them.
00:31:25.660
I mean, they all took the money too, didn't they?
00:31:28.600
And, uh, that, that was, uh, that was, uh, that was a huge part of it is, uh, that his
00:31:35.920
So whether they were on wall street or whether they were in Silicon Valley or whether they
00:31:39.880
were here in Washington, DC, uh, people were just fawning over this guy and, uh, and,
00:31:45.860
and, and, and obviously it unraveled and I'm glad it did.
00:31:50.400
I appreciate you taking the time to talk with us.
00:31:52.280
Uh, appreciate you giving us the answer on your hell no vote.
00:31:56.080
Uh, Congressman Bill Heisig, thank you very much for taking the time today.
00:32:01.100
Hey, Merry Christmas to everybody and, uh, and safe travels for those that are out traveling
00:32:06.180
and, uh, and just please know this, we're going to keep fighting for the American taxpayer.
00:32:11.840
And, uh, we are, uh, you've got a group of us out here in Washington.
00:32:15.280
We're very eager to get back in the majority, but we have to use that majority for, for the
00:32:20.060
And, and, uh, and we're hopeful that we're going to be able to do that.
00:32:28.220
He's the craziest part about this Sam Bankman freed thing.
00:32:33.680
I guess that's on the line or part of it at least.
00:32:43.080
He's going to do some sledding later on or what?
00:32:48.020
He's just, I mean, you're talking about the crypto comment and how many people lost it
00:32:53.960
And yet people that just took like a tour, they took a walk.
00:32:56.820
The grandmas that took a walk through the Capitol, uh, they're still locked up in, uh,
00:33:09.120
But we're seeing this sort of double, well, the double standards that we continue to deal
00:33:14.540
Barkley in for Beck today in the Glenn Beck program.
00:33:17.200
We'll talk to you coming up too at 888-727-BECK.
00:33:59.660
Fox News has got this bug that tells you how many people are without power throughout the
00:34:08.980
But I think it's interesting to note this, of course, they'll say it's climate change.
00:34:16.720
Can't say that because this is not, it's not very warm.
00:34:21.340
In fact, where I'm at right now, I'm looking at a balmy 7.
00:34:25.280
And I think even folks like south of me are even, are even colder.
00:34:32.440
So we can't say it's global, we can't say it's global warm anymore.
00:34:35.320
But they've gone throughout the entire, you know, back in the 70s, they called this, what,
00:34:41.520
Just this thing about the weather, it just changes.
00:34:43.460
Now, whether you want to say that the climate is always changing.
00:34:46.960
In fact, it looks like it, it might be that that's the case.
00:34:50.860
Many would say, of course, we're supposed to trust the science, right?
00:35:00.560
Some would say the sun is kind of the big driver of all of this.
00:35:10.320
So don't forget that if you're out and about trying to get your Christmas presents
00:35:25.700
And, of course, always a pleasure in the Glenn Beck program inside.
00:35:30.620
Whether you're warm and cozy, snuggling up by the fire,
00:35:33.480
you're outside working in this thing, keeping everybody on track,
00:35:46.440
And check theblaze.com for all of the latest updates because, you know,
00:35:53.920
We're wishing you the best, whether you're sticking with us or that's it for you.
00:36:31.340
What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.
00:36:58.560
Now, welcome, man, and a Merry Christmas to you.
00:37:01.080
It's Justin Barkley in for Glenn Beck today on the Glenn Beck program
00:37:07.500
We're watching the storm throughout the country,
00:37:10.400
making its way mostly to the East Coast right now.
00:37:12.580
I've got to tell you, we're hearing a lot about the impact of this storm.
00:37:16.420
I've got some things that I want to share about it as well.
00:37:19.880
But a story out of my own backyard that I just,
00:37:23.380
I've been hearing a lot about, Christians under fire.
00:37:33.440
I want you to hear about this couple that's going through it right now,
00:37:40.860
Share their story and more coming up after this in the Glenn Beck program.
00:37:44.480
So they're saying today thousands of flights canceled already,
00:38:01.460
and I'm sure this is going to be an issue for travel.
00:38:04.420
Folks without power in states all across the country,
00:38:07.700
we'll talk about some of that coming up and what the storm actually looks like.
00:38:11.220
And my view of it from where I sit in Michigan,
00:38:14.820
which is very cold and very snowy nevertheless,
00:38:17.960
but we'll talk about it all coming up, the impact.
00:38:21.720
And what you may not be hearing or seeing behind the scenes
00:38:25.420
of everything that's breathlessly reported on television right now
00:38:28.480
because, you know, everything's a big emergency.
00:38:33.700
we do have a lot of crises going on one after the other.
00:38:39.520
We'll try and make sense of it all this morning.
00:38:41.380
You want to stay in contact with me, justinbarclay.com, B-A-R-C-L-A-Y.com.
00:38:45.840
But I'd love to hear from you, so send me a message there on my website,
00:38:48.740
or you can call 888-727-B-E-C-K, 888-727-B-E-C-K.
00:38:53.540
I'd like to put a couple of more phone calls on here today
00:38:56.620
just as we get a little closer to the holiday season
00:39:00.880
But first, I want to tell you about a couple who have been through it.
00:39:05.460
And they are folks who entrepreneurs decided they were going to start their own business.
00:39:14.380
A couple of faith, and that business has happened to be a wedding venue.
00:39:20.000
Nick and Hannah Natale on the phone with us right now.
00:39:32.500
I guess, Nick, you were in the food kind of as a chef.
00:39:41.220
So you guys did these things before, and I guess you get married,
00:39:45.580
and you decide somewhere down the line that you've got a dream,
00:39:52.640
And you happened upon a church, a beautiful church that needed a ton of work.
00:39:57.520
What year was it that you guys made decide to make this leap
00:40:00.500
and get into that church and start the process of really renovating this thing
00:40:09.360
So we found this space in 2018, the beginning of 2018.
00:40:13.880
And it took us only just, I think, about three or four months to get in the building,
00:40:24.820
We just knew when we saw it and we got in it, it was the one that we wanted,
00:40:33.000
And, yeah, from there, it was a four-year journey to get open just this summer in June of 22.
00:40:40.380
You had COVID, you had all kinds of stuff that you guys went through.
00:40:44.920
But you persevered, and you said, we're going to get open.
00:40:50.660
they're probably feeling some sort of relief, and, oh, my goodness, here we go.
00:40:53.580
You're probably hoping to feel that way, too, until, I mean, it really hit the fan,
00:40:58.000
and your faith has come under fire because you sort of mentioned
00:41:06.960
Now, I understand that sort of the way the world works now, the way culture is.
00:41:14.120
They don't mind you have your faith, they'll tell you,
00:41:20.960
You're not allowed to practice it in public, apparently,
00:41:24.200
and that's what you guys found because you've been under attack
00:41:31.720
Just tell us a little bit about what happened to you and when it all started.
00:41:39.980
Yeah, well, going into the first year of business,
00:41:45.980
Because of construction and everything, we didn't get open until June, late June,
00:41:50.720
and we had 30 weddings booked for, you know, within a five-month span.
00:41:55.240
So we were really excited about that, off to a great start.
00:41:59.080
And then 13 days after we opened, we had someone reach out,
00:42:15.060
it was just something that we felt so strongly about
00:42:18.880
to hold to our values as we opened this business.
00:43:05.660
And by the morning, it had just spread like wildfire.
00:43:33.480
and the way God intended love to be celebrated.
00:43:37.460
And just this covenant between a man and a woman and God.
00:43:45.580
We haven't booked really much since we came out with our stance.
00:43:52.500
Nick, I want to ask you a little bit about what has happened
00:43:56.220
You guys aren't looking to discriminate against anyone.
00:44:02.340
the way your faith, in accordance with your faith.
00:44:16.540
They're not going to have weddings or events there.
00:44:47.600
As a man, we tend to think that we can just fix it ourselves
00:45:19.680
and we might be having to close our doors at some point.
00:47:30.780
you told me last night when we were talking about this,
00:47:35.160
been able to have some really good conversations with people one-on-one.
00:47:48.580
whether it's social media or some of the things that we see nowadays,
00:47:54.340
What are some of the attacks that have happened that have come your way?
00:47:57.520
Some of the things that you've heard and then how,
00:48:01.000
and been able to have good conversations with people and maybe be a shining
00:48:15.960
most of what we've received has been on social media and it's,
00:48:29.820
people have made comments about comments on pictures of me with my
00:48:49.900
wishing she'd be barren for the rest of her life.
00:49:11.300
comments about things that Jesus could do with his male appendages,
00:49:25.680
we believe marriage to be a man and woman to death threats,
00:49:46.540
Cause I think you've not fought in the ways that you probably want to.
00:49:50.680
But sometimes the ways that some might think about it,
00:50:12.480
which is basically the antichrist in this society.
00:50:18.080
I think there would be a stereotype to how I would,
00:50:26.320
wouldn't it be amazing for you to just shine God's light and not respond with
00:50:36.700
And I think that's what I've tried to do anytime we've had media approach us
00:50:49.480
with the opposing view once a couple at a wedding that we were hosting.
00:50:55.120
those are the best conversations you could have because you're not out to
00:51:01.920
You're just voicing the depth of your belief versus a tagline on social media
00:51:14.000
And when you actually get to have a conversation with people and say,
00:51:18.140
And this is why we're running our business this way.
00:51:20.880
It doesn't have to result in all of this that's going on.
00:51:38.080
and maybe they can help you when it comes to fighting back and finding out
00:51:46.660
this is not the only incidents you're going to have to figure out where your
00:51:51.300
line is and whether or not you intend to stand in the future.
00:51:56.120
we're seeing faith under fire in a lot of different ways.
00:51:58.860
We'll continue this conversation right after this,
00:52:02.020
Justin Barkley and for Glenn today on the Glenn Beck program.
00:52:29.520
but they say they have Christian business values and their faith now is,
00:52:41.540
that apparently has come up into the discussion here.
00:53:02.180
but this is something I think a lot of folks are,
00:53:07.860
especially with this new law that's been passed,
00:53:19.600
Because I think we're moving into a time where we're going to have to make
00:53:28.200
what is it that the point that we decide we're going to stand at,
00:53:31.380
whether it's in our faith or whatever it might be in our families and our
00:53:46.380
I would start with the answer now and go back to when it happened.
00:53:51.820
once you make the stand and you go through the fire,
00:54:13.900
And then it goes away enough with words and slander and that petty stuff.
00:54:19.920
And then you start to realize why you made a stand.
00:54:28.380
we'd rather look back and let's say our business has to close.
00:54:41.680
we made a stand for exactly what we believe in,
00:55:02.340
We believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.
00:55:07.880
And so what I would just tell people is there is that moment where you're like,
00:55:25.340
Once you get to a point where you realize it is something that's going to affect you.
00:56:04.800
It's Justin Barkley in for Glendon and Glenn Beck.
00:56:38.880
the reason I bring this up is because we're all going to have to do that.
00:56:43.780
we all are going to have to make that decision.
00:57:12.900
go set up to help with any legal or any business expenses that may come up
00:57:27.000
So you can go on over and you can help these folks.
00:57:37.680
But one of the things I thought was the most interesting on this give soon
00:58:06.800
this is not going to be the only time you see this.
00:58:16.980
What she was doing outside of an abortion clinic.
00:58:48.960
one question to these despicable people ever target a mosque and ask them to
00:58:55.800
have an LGBTQ wedding or do they go to a halal bakery or,
00:59:08.580
why don't they just let them run their business?
00:59:28.780
we have seen people of all different faiths come together,
00:59:42.640
in Dearborn against some of these crazy pornographic books that were set in
00:59:55.660
this is an opportunity for us to come together and know that our faith is,
01:00:07.940
the way things work for Marxists is that the government and whoever has control of it,
01:00:29.700
a lot of folks were upset and folks on the left said,
01:00:35.760
and I'm sure he's going to be blathering into the microphone.
01:01:08.500
And this is why we've got to decide right here and now how it is that we are going to stand or fall.
01:01:35.640
There are any questions about what's going on today.
01:02:32.320
but she just happens to be outside of an abortion center.
01:03:17.280
will you voluntarily come with us now to the police station for me to ask you some questions?
01:03:21.460
They want to ask her some questions because she's praying.
01:03:24.760
Today and other days where there are allegations that you've broken public spaces protection order.
01:03:31.400
there's allegations that she's broken some sort of order,
01:03:38.340
you're not allowed to stand somewhere and pray.
01:03:44.340
I can't suspicion of the planning to comply with the public spaces protection order.
01:03:59.900
the antisocial behavior act of whatever he says.
01:04:18.320
You're under for the prompt and effective investigation into the offense.
01:04:30.880
so she's being arrested mainly to protect vulnerable people.
01:04:43.960
Not to mention the vulnerable lives that will be murdered.
01:04:57.820
the jolly information that you may want to hear today.
01:05:03.960
I do believe it's a wake up call and it's one that we all need to hear.
01:05:07.900
I know Glenn's talked about this quite extensively,
01:05:17.760
It's best to make these decisions now because we don't know necessarily what's
01:05:23.640
Although we do know that inevitably we will have to make some tough decisions.
01:06:03.820
Back with more after this on the Glenn Beck program.
01:06:09.480
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01:06:40.140
We did some good news and some strange news in the Rona report.
01:07:01.540
He likes to be idolized and put up on a pedestal.
01:07:16.260
He likes that funding for the gain of function research that he gets to do.
01:07:26.200
The Florida Supreme court has approved Ron DeSantis request of a grand jury on COVID-19 jabs.
01:07:37.500
ruling a grand jury requested by Florida Republican governor,
01:08:12.380
let me get a load of this exercise lowers your risk of,
01:08:22.140
isn't that something when it comes to the wrong,
01:08:58.780
we never heard a couple of very common sense and very simple solutions.
01:09:39.740
men and women who worked out at least 30 minutes,
01:09:41.960
most days were about four times more likely to survive than inactive people.
01:09:49.480
According to an eyeopening study of the called an eyeopening study in the post,
01:09:56.640
Exercise and coronavirus outcomes among almost 200,000 adults in Southern California.
01:10:03.500
Study found that exercise in almost any amount,
01:10:05.980
really reduce people's risks for a severe coronavirus infection.
01:10:09.340
Even people who worked out for as little as 11 minutes a week.
01:10:25.660
I think most folks could get 11 minutes a week.
01:10:29.680
And I don't know if it's heart rate is up a certain amount or what that looks like.
01:10:53.560
They call it a triple threat of COVID flu and RSV.
01:11:01.220
Several state health officials asking people to mask up,
01:11:19.580
And you ask life expected to continue to follow.
01:11:27.080
Americans born in 2021 could expect to live just 76.4 years.
01:11:32.420
According to government data released yesterday,
01:11:37.880
I wonder what could possibly be causing some of that.
01:11:49.100
We're going to get down to bottom of some of this stuff.
01:11:51.800
And there's Supreme court allowing him to do that.
01:12:35.080
What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.
01:13:13.340
And faith is a major part of our lives here in America,
01:13:21.320
We're going to share some things about Christmas and particularly the Christmas story that may just strengthen your faith coming up in moments.
01:13:54.860
if you're just going through the motions this Christmas,
01:13:59.800
I think use a little jolt in your faith and maybe a reminder of why we celebrate.
01:14:10.500
Justin Barkley in for Glenn today and the Glenn Beck program.
01:14:13.240
You can connect with me everywhere that I'm at.
01:14:23.920
He's a priest and the author of The Secret of the Bethlehem Shepherds and the Mystery of the Magi.
01:14:32.060
I'm reading The Secret of the Bethlehem Shepherds right now.
01:14:42.840
the term fake news quite a bit when it comes to things that we hear in the news.
01:14:49.640
But it turns out it may not necessarily be intentional in some ways,
01:14:55.200
but there are some things that may not necessarily be as true as maybe we heard traditionally through the years in Christmas stories.
01:15:03.100
And you did a little research project a few years back when you were able to kind of step away on a sabbatical
01:15:09.600
and look into some of the stories that we hear in the Bible,
01:15:12.760
particularly around Jesus' birth in the Gospels.
01:15:15.680
And I wanted to give you a chance to talk a little bit about that and share what you found in fact.
01:15:21.560
So thank you for joining us and thank you for writing about it.
01:15:27.480
it's interesting to see some of the true story behind the birth of Christ.
01:15:34.460
we're told a lot of things that I think folks look at,
01:15:37.900
even sometimes look at some of these stories like they're fairy tales,
01:15:40.760
but you've got some actual evidence that points to not just Christ,
01:15:48.920
we have to remember that these stories come to us from 2000 through 2000 years of tradition.
01:15:58.600
but it comes to us through its own little pilgrimage or journey from the ancient Middle East
01:16:32.940
which we now accept as part of the story and part of the whole thing.
01:16:37.300
So I try to go back and sort of trim away all those extra accretions and all that extra stuff
01:16:46.280
and how that fits with the geography and the archaeology and the politics of the time.
01:16:51.420
So what would be some of the things that you found to be the most interesting
01:16:55.640
along your journey in the research and writing the book,
01:17:04.060
one of the things to remember also is that in our age,
01:17:06.920
we are really lucky because we live in an age when through archaeology and forensics
01:17:14.340
we know more about the ancient Middle East and the time of the New Testament
01:17:18.140
than our parents and grandparents and great-grandparents ever did.
01:17:36.240
most of us in our mind will conjure up the idea of some kind of a medieval European tavern
01:17:50.280
you'll have to go to the stable over there across the hillside.
01:17:55.340
the word that's translated as inn in our English translations is the Greek word kataluma,
01:18:05.180
And I discovered that the houses in Bethlehem at the time would have been very simple,
01:18:11.660
one or two room homes with a guest room built on either on the roof or off to the side.
01:18:18.080
Because the Middle Easterners have a very strong tradition of hospitality,
01:18:22.220
and also especially hospitality for family members.
01:18:27.000
So the idea that Mary and Joseph and baby Jesus were homeless on Christmas night
01:18:32.280
is something which we've sort of appropriated over the centuries and added in our own age,
01:18:37.740
because we have a natural compassion for homeless people
01:18:40.180
and a good compassion for immigrants and so forth.
01:18:52.060
and found that there was no room in their guest room,
01:18:57.140
Now these little simple homes would have been built in front of a cave.
01:19:09.280
It was reserved for storage and stabling the animals.
01:19:11.680
So Jesus would not have been born in a drafty stable somewhere,
01:19:20.380
which was kind of like the back room of the family home.
01:19:22.660
Now what about the manger and the story about being put in the manger,
01:20:21.880
One of the most interesting pieces of your work
01:20:45.140
about what was really happening in those fields.
01:21:18.900
you shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes
01:21:37.660
and I could not find any evidence for that story.
01:21:58.440
and Bethlehem is just six miles from Jerusalem,
01:22:13.920
which would have been used for sacrifice in the temple.
01:23:36.000
But to actually go to where this all took place,
01:24:12.800
especially the supernatural things didn't happen.
01:24:17.080
well, let's read the text exactly for what it is
01:24:42.600
particularly The Secret of the Bethlehem Shepherds
01:24:56.260
how do we know that Jesus was born in Bethlehem?
01:25:00.280
and pick up some of those extra readings there.
01:25:16.800
but basically the shepherds we know from Luke's Gospel
01:25:26.120
remembered the actual location of Jesus' birth,