When did we think it was okay for people to have sex with children? When did we ever think that was just a lifestyle choice, and not out and out evil? When was the last time inflation hit 8%?!
00:07:10.940Like, hey, you've dealt with this terrible problem for six months or 12 months, not just the one.
00:07:17.660So therefore, you shouldn't worry about it.
00:07:19.620Like, no, the problem is existing and it has peaked and we've stayed right near the peak here for month after month after month after month.
00:07:27.380That just keeps hitting families over and over and over again.
00:07:30.240If it was just a one month spike and it went away, that wouldn't be that big of a problem.
00:07:35.460The problem is that it's going on for now a year or more and he has seemingly no way of controlling it.
00:09:31.000What's going to happen is these energy prices are not going to be affordable by any stretch of the imagination.
00:09:41.280They're already going through this in England.
00:09:45.380But England right now is so focused and the media is so focused on, can we put the poor woman into the ground, please?
00:09:53.000But they're so focused on all of this.
00:09:56.860And I don't know if the media will ever tell you what's really going on.
00:10:01.820But they're now talking about printing at the central bank, the Bank of London or of England.
00:10:08.580They're now talking about more money printing because they don't have the money in their coffers to be able to pay for everybody's electric bills because they've promised they would pay anything over £2,500 a month.
00:10:24.780Well, so that's just going to drive inflation in the UK through the roof.
00:12:37.040It is critical that you know the truth and you know how to find the truth.
00:12:44.400The best way to find the truth, the best starting place, is who's telling you, you have to listen to me because I have the truth or I have, quote, the science.
00:13:02.580And you will not be allowed to question anything.
00:13:07.640Any question of what I believe is true makes you my enemy.
00:13:13.820Anyone who tells you that does not have the truth on their side.
00:16:20.500But what have you been giving your dog a much better, much healthier, much happier life just by altering the way you feed him or her just a little bit?
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00:17:18.420They're going to send you a free bag, just a little sample bag for your dog to try.
00:17:22.960So just all you do is pay for the shipping and get the sample bag.
00:17:26.700If your dog likes it, then order the bag and start watching the difference over the coming months.
00:17:32.860It is remarkable what it has done for every dog and every dog owner that I know.
00:17:59.280So in the same interview, in the same interview last night on 60 Minutes, the president warned Putin not to launch a nuke, not to use any kind of nuclear weapon.
00:18:16.180I don't know about you, but why are we even worried about this?
00:19:02.920And I also worry that his trusted advisers, the ones who gave us the incredible butt kicking in Afghanistan, are the same advisers who were never disciplined for that.
00:19:18.700Same advisers that would advise him what to do if Putin would use a tactical nuke.
00:19:26.260By the way, in our show prep today, there is a doomsday scenario that is done by, I think it's Princeton University, a simulated war on what would happen if Russia used a tactical nuke or a small nuke anywhere.
00:45:58.900Probably something you never thought you would do.
00:46:03.660Absolutely never something I thought I would do, but I am familiar with your thoughts on certain things.
00:46:10.480I've watched your interviews with different people over the year.
00:46:14.140So, Sasha, you've been a diehard Democrat, Obama, Clinton, and Joe Biden, right?
00:46:25.960You made video about Joe Biden trying to get him elected.
00:46:28.780Yes, I mean, I want to tell you that I devoted my entire life, unfortunately, to this cause.
00:46:36.600Whole years have disappeared from my life.
00:46:39.060And, you know, as you get older, you really need that time.
00:46:41.820You need it back, and you can't get it back.
00:46:43.840So, I guess I thought I was on some sort of crusade, spending every single day arguing on Twitter and Facebook and writing blistering pieces for Medium.
00:46:53.220And, you know, I really did think I was on the right side.
00:46:55.760And I felt the same sense of purpose that I think a lot of people on the left felt after Obama rose to power in 2008.
00:47:05.740I think it just, that's when it became, I know you're interested in, you know, talking about religions and stuff like that.
00:47:11.240And I think that's really the moment that it became a religion.
00:47:37.580I don't know where it came from, but I liked him.
00:47:41.440And he reminded me of my dad, and I thought he was a good guy.
00:47:45.880But, you know, you have to remember that on our side, like we actually, it's weird that people with so much power and wealth that dominate almost every institution would feel like they're the ones who are besieged, you know, that they're the oppressed side.
00:48:00.920And I think that's what we definitely convinced ourselves that we were stopping, you know, Hitler.
00:48:06.400And I believe that Joe Biden was the only one who could do it.
00:48:09.660But I did get a lot of heat from my friends who didn't think Biden was the guy.
00:48:16.220And I feel sort of somewhat guilty about that, that I didn't see it.
00:48:20.640I just thought, oh, he'll win and that'll be fine.
00:48:22.780And, you know, everything will be everything will be back to, quote unquote, normal in America.
00:48:28.520And what that meant was rolling back the forward motion of this country to the Obama administration, to the Obama era.
00:48:36.060I think that's what everybody was thinking.
00:48:37.680But what I've learned in the past few years is you can't go back, you know, you have to keep moving forward.
00:48:45.700If you try to hold on to the past, you're just going to be selling things that people are no longer interested in.
00:48:50.920Wouldn't that be what I mean, that's what Joe Biden says he's selling and Barack Obama is part of, of, you know, the plan here and moving his vision forward.
00:49:06.420Absolutely. And I think that's the problem is that they're so desperately trying to to cling to the utopia that that we all built, that they've lost sight of reality, the reality of most Americans, the reality that America has changed.
00:49:22.740The world has changed. The left has changed. And I don't think that they see that they're just desperate to hold on to the past.
00:49:31.620And and I think they they see it as and I've started to see it as a fight between Obama's America and Trump's America, which is a little like the the moment that, you know, back in the 60s when they were switching from JFK to Nixon.
00:49:48.380Nixon was sort of like the disruptor. And then eventually they moved to Reagan in 1980 and then the whole pendulum shifted to the right.
00:49:56.880I think that's sort of where we are now. We're in that struggle phase of a disruptor that's breaking up the status quo as the pendulum is beginning to swing to the right.
00:50:07.360But it's going to be a while before we get there. And it might not get there if if the Democrats hold on to power.
00:50:14.520But this is I mean, I'm sure we disagree on still a lot of stuff.
00:50:20.320Would you can you wouldn't consider yourself a conservative?
00:50:25.320You're just of a traditional liberal, I'm guessing.
00:50:30.440Well, I am in sort of a strange place because I have I was telling one of my best friends, you know, my friends basically no longer speak to me.
00:50:37.400Most of them don't because we don't really have anything to talk about.
00:50:40.160But, you know, I kept saying, no, I mean, in all this time, my policies haven't changed in my mind.
00:50:48.420Like the things that I the one area where where my mind has changed a little bit is with abortion.
00:50:55.540I used to be one of those people, you know, but I've I've seen the other side of it.
00:51:00.240I see things from the perspective of the right now and I understand why this is something that they've been fighting for decades, you know.
00:51:12.260I'm not really I'm not really sure where I would go politically, you know, when face was about.
00:51:17.680I live in California, so it doesn't really matter.
00:51:19.500It's such a deep blue state that is meaningless, you know, so I don't think I don't have to like if I lived in Pennsylvania or Arizona, you know, honestly, I'm pretty sure I would just be voting red.
00:51:32.180I voted for the recall and I voted for Larry Elder for that.
00:51:38.100So, you know, I'm just I'm just one of those independents that's going to take every election as it comes and decide, you know, on the spot.
00:51:44.500No, I'm not a traditional conservative.
00:51:48.080The way that you are, for instance, you know, I don't have that sort of sense of purpose, I think, that a lot of people in the right have.
00:51:55.660So what was it that broke the camel's back?
00:52:02.180Well, I'm not really sure what happened in my brain that changed the way that I saw the world, but I know it happened in 2020.
00:52:11.620I know it happened once the protests and the riots broke out and then watching the media cover it up and change the story and change the narrative.
00:52:20.960And then as we headed into the election, I just kept seeing how there was a sort of an administrative state that was taking over the democratic process.
00:52:30.320That's how I thought anyway. And I was I was sort of blown away by that.
00:52:33.400I'd never seen anything like that before, but there was so much money and power invested in bringing down a duly elected president that they didn't like.
00:52:50.320And the weird thing is that when I decided to, well, you know, you talk about this a lot, actually, Glenn, which is the dehumanization of whole groups of people that that is reminiscent of Nazi Germany.
00:53:03.860And I felt that when I was on Twitter, I was part of that.
00:53:07.480And it gave me a chill that I was dehumanizing a whole group of people.
00:53:12.420And I thought, where does this end? Where does all of the hatred every single day go?
00:53:16.340You know, they think the right is the side with the hate, but they're not the left.
00:53:20.340And so I started in my way of trying to get to know this world.
00:53:24.840I began watching Trump rallies and I watched all of his I still to this day, I've seen every single Trump rally, you know, looking for that smoking gun that would say, yes, he's a terrible racist, fascist, selling hate.
00:54:04.120And the only nobody believes me on this, but the only moments of joy I had was watching those rallies because everybody was happy.
00:54:12.300It was kind of like the people of Whoville when the Grinch has taken away all of their toys and their Christmas tree and everything and he's waiting to watch them suffer.
00:54:21.100But they don't. They sing and they're happy.
00:54:23.420And I was watching this and I was thinking, you know, and then I started to look forward to his rallies.
00:54:28.200I'm like, OK, let's see that the music would start and he'd come out and it was just a love fest.
00:54:33.060You know, people who were who had hope, you know, that he gave them hope.
00:54:37.640And I didn't see the cult. You know, I see the cult more on the left than I do on the right.
00:54:42.440And people don't know this about Trump, but he makes a lot of jokes at his own expense.
00:54:48.560And and, you know, when I explain this to people, like the one where he says that the guy, one of the governors or something, plucked a hair off of his head.
00:54:57.700And he's like, we went looking for that hair because he couldn't afford to lose one hair.
00:55:04.440But he's always making jokes at his own expense, jokes about his vanity.
00:55:08.180And so you it's funny, but but hang on.
00:55:11.940So you watched all of these and yet you voted in and made videos about Joe Biden, right?
00:55:20.060No, I mean, I had done all that before.
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00:59:26.960And you wrote an article, How Joe Biden Lost My Vote.
00:59:31.400And it was heartening to see somebody that had taken their own education and decided this might take me places I don't want to go, but I want to know the truth.
00:59:48.540Is that how you would describe what you did?
00:59:50.820That's an absolutely brilliant way of describing it.
01:00:26.560But, I mean, it matters that, you know, that we see the truth, that we can speak the truth, that I can speak the truth.
01:00:33.380I grew up in a country, you know, the left was always the counterculture.
01:00:37.180So, you know, we were encouraged to speak the truth always.
01:00:40.080And now I'm being asked to modify my version, you know, to believe a lie, a lot of lies about people.
01:00:49.220And I feel like the only thing that really matters to me right now is giving some relief to the other half of the country, to the people who are being treated so terribly on almost every level.
01:01:03.600You know, once I started to get to know this world, I began watching, like, documentaries in the Oscar race, because that's what I write about, the Oscars.
01:01:11.380And I just noticed how they reflect only one point of view and how limiting that was for them, right?
01:01:17.560They cannot, they can't tell the story of the working man anymore like they used to be able to, you know, because the working man is going to be most likely a Trump supporter.
01:01:27.540And you never saw that when you were in the bubble.
01:01:33.600No, and that was the weird thing is when I realized I was in a bubble, I kept trying to tell people, I can't talk to you, you're in the bubble.
01:01:58.400And I have to conclude that a lot of this has to do with how we've migrated onto social media and become these, you know, in our own little ecosystems where, you know, on Twitter, they only get news that they want to hear.
01:02:14.000And I noticed that that's why I had to cut off the news completely, because I noticed that even if I watch one news story on the left, they can completely persuade me to think, you know, about something a different way.
01:02:24.280But it's one thing if you're getting that from both sides, and you're deciding for yourself.
01:02:30.780And it's another thing when you're only watching the one version.
01:02:35.380And I've just found that, honestly, the more critical thinkers, the more intelligent people, oh, this is so terrible to say, but they're on the right now.
01:02:45.560You know, they're not on the left anymore.
01:02:47.040The left has, you know, become a movement that they believe they have all the answers now.
01:02:53.500And the answers are found in ranking people by race and gender, not by class or economics.
01:03:02.600And I think that that's or by character.
01:03:15.400And that's the next piece I'm about to write is about that, because I think that it's such a crazy thing to watch them stereotype and characterize people.
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01:05:11.380We're talking to Sasha Stone, who was a pretty hardcore Democrat and is and had a lot to lose and has come out and now very publicly on Substack.
01:05:27.200She's been voicing concern about where the country is headed and why she is now defending the people that the left and in particular Joe Biden in his blood red speech was attacking.
01:06:17.480And in fact, Biden was a bit of a Trojan horse in that way.
01:06:22.140I think that the the people that have overtaken the party, the ideology that's overtaken the party really spilled out of Tumblr as Generation Z grew up and came of age on social media and then have foisted their sort of newfound religion on to the to the left.
01:06:41.220And they have taken it, unfortunately, and not stood up to it.
01:06:45.160And if any of them ever stood up to it, Gavin Newsom or any of these guys, they would do really well with voters because voters don't want that in power.
01:06:53.420In fact, that's going to be their their tragic flaw, I think, or their downfall ultimately is that they still have to sell these policies and Americans aren't going to go for it.
01:07:04.200The trick is what Biden is doing and why I've given up on him and why I'm angry at him is that he's decided that the only way they could win is by dehumanizing people and creating this this unfiltered, bottomless rage toward his own citizens, you know, and say what you will about Trump.
01:08:33.160So I don't know how you break through to that.
01:08:35.420Normally, we would have journalists and artists, but we don't have that now.
01:08:38.960So, well, we're starting to we're starting to get comedians when you when you say the left.
01:08:46.680I'm not I just don't know how you save people who are on just on that far left that, you know, celebrates abortion and and and says that America is evil and capitalism, you know, is brought only misery.
01:09:04.760I don't know if you're ever going to be able to convince them.
01:09:07.880I mean, the 80 percent that you and I both think exist that are Democrats who have got to be watching this going.
01:09:17.820I'm not I'm not all that comfortable with all of this.
01:09:22.420Well, I don't know if you watched Frank Luntz had a group of people that he was talking to just recently, and they were talking about how bad things are in America.
01:09:31.700And they could sense it, but they couldn't name it because I don't think they have.
01:09:36.780They can you know, the media is reaching them.
01:09:39.500And so either they've tuned out of cable news or else every time they turn on the news, they just see what is basically filtered up through the left that you're talking about, the small majority minority that controls the party.
01:09:52.660But the problem is that, you know, the way that the left talks about the Trump right, you know, they say the Republican Party isn't can't be saved because the Trump people have infiltrated.
01:10:04.720So you just have to vote out all of them.
01:10:06.260I mean, funnily enough, that's sort of true of them.
01:10:09.800I have I have found over the years, whatever the left says that we're doing or that Trump is doing or whatever, they're absolutely doing that.
01:10:20.400They self-diagnose all the time, all the time.
01:10:50.920We would take care of each other in an emergency, you know, and that's the America that I love and would love for all to get back to is just to be able to see each other as people again.
01:11:01.520You know, and and the right isn't doing that to the left.
01:13:17.180And he explained to me that because he believed that the baby had a right to life and he was looking out for the rights of that child.
01:13:24.040And that when he told me that it was the first time I ever really thought I know it seems stupid, but it was the only time I really, you know, I bought the whole thing from the feminist movement.
01:14:05.320It's a very difficult, very hard thing.
01:14:07.780And to look at people on the right who care about the right to life of the fetus, you know, is just to have compassion for them and to understand where they're coming from and to see that this is a deeply held belief.
01:14:22.320It's not, I want to control women's bodies or I'm a fascist.
01:14:26.200It's, I, you know, I think that this is, this child's life matters.
01:14:30.820And it's weird that the left acts as though they care about every life, you know, that they, that they really do care about everybody's identity and that they spend so much time on that.
01:15:10.480I guess I've just been, I guess I have to come from a place of that Bob Dylan line.
01:15:16.940You know, when you ain't got nothing, you've got nothing to lose.
01:15:20.760To where I can't, people treat me terribly online.
01:15:25.840You probably have, well, I mean, I'm sure it's only a fraction of what you might get, but, you know, I've been treated like a swarmed and bullied and harassed and called a white supremacist.
01:15:41.960And, you know, I mean, the worst names you could ever imagine.
01:15:45.580And I feel like, you know, what's the alternative?
01:15:49.800You know, staying silent and hoping that one day they treat me nicely, you know, like that's not.
01:15:56.000And if it's just about money, well, I'm just going to have to take that risk, you know, and find another way to make money.
01:16:33.780And honestly, I have so much respect for people, even if they come to completely different conclusions than I did.
01:16:41.900I have so much admiration for people who will examine the things about them or the things that they believe when it takes them into very uncomfortable territory.
01:26:22.840There's activists here, Jose, that are saying that these people were victims of human trafficking.
01:26:28.940They want an investigation from the Justice Department onto what Governor DeSantis is doing, what Governor Greg Abbott is doing, because they're saying that these people are being abused and used, uh, to bring a border crisis deeper into the country.
01:26:43.640Now, I can tell you, uh, they're not angry at Ron DeSantis, they're actually thanking him for having brought them to Martha's Vineyard, where they were, they were very well received.
01:26:55.400But other people, well, they're saying they're being used as political pawns.
01:26:58.520They don't resent it for now, uh, and they know they're the lucky one.
01:27:01.900This is a fascinating part of this whole thing.
01:27:04.600There's this revisionism going on right now.
01:27:06.860Like, all of these, I remember hearing multiple reports with the first, uh, set of immigrants going to these cities where they couldn't even find examples of the illegal immigrants who were upset about this.
01:27:19.500They were like, hey, we got across the border, we wanted to go, like, to the Northeast, they gave us a free bus ride to New York, and they were happy, and it was almost a way to stick it in the face of Greg Abbott initially, like, oh, you said you were going to be hurting, you're going to be hurting these immigrants, and now you're helping them.
01:27:42.120Now, they go to Martha's Vineyard, they meet with lawyers, and all of a sudden, they're pawns in a political game with this high-level analysis of U.S. politics mixed in.
01:27:53.520It's an interesting thing from someone who just crawled across Panama to get here.
01:28:16.440Suboptimal would be the, would be a great term to, uh, to utilize there.
01:28:20.660Um, you have a situation where Biden seemingly, if you're going over all of the polls, you want to kind of look at, uh, not just one, but all of them.
01:28:30.320You see Biden maybe popping off his very bottom from a few months ago, uh, to, uh, to a level that is not exactly good, but a little bit off of its lows.
01:28:41.080And that's, of course, something that has created this narrative that Democrats have a, an increasing amount of momentum as we approach this election.
01:34:00.020And one of the reasons why you saw that situation playing out is because we had energy that skyrocketed, partially because of Joe Biden's actions, but then kind of came down.
01:34:13.640So we had a peak and it's kind of come back down.
01:34:15.760We've seen gas prices like come down from the worst of all time to like the second worst of all time.
01:34:21.440And we're supposed to celebrate this, right?
01:34:23.420That's that's the pitch from the media.
01:41:48.340And I can't believe that more people aren't going, you know, I mean, the guy has brain damage, and God bless him, and I love him, but that's probably...
01:41:57.300The Senate is probably that, and, you know, my kid's chauffeur or bus driver should not...
01:49:46.860But I thought that, I thought, because we talked to them before, and I thought a lot of this was addressed in the structure of the convention.
01:49:53.120I know it's been a while since we've talked about it in detail.
01:49:55.600But, you know, Mark Levin wrote a book about this.
01:51:00.340Like, I mean, I think it's one of those things that it's a, there's a lot of disagreement on what can happen.
01:51:07.500I honestly, we've seen a lot of topics like this recently where people who generally agree on most stuff wind up coming to totally different conclusions and feel passionate about it on, on, on things like this.
01:51:21.620So I, I mean, I, worth future investigation, I think.
01:51:26.340Um, but you know, I, I think like you are totally right in your, in your, I think analysis of where we are as a country, you know?
01:51:35.800I mean, like I, this is another example from this past week and I was watching it sort of from afar, but the situation where, with DeSantis sending the illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard.
01:51:45.160Uh, now, of course, number one, I, I think it's funny.
01:51:48.860Um, that's the most important part of the strategy.
01:51:51.300Um, but like, I have absolutely no problem with a policy of what Abbott's done or what DeSantis has done or what Arizona has done.
01:51:57.220What's the, what, what is the difference?
01:51:58.700I, totally, all the arguments against it are the same arguments we make in Texas every day.
01:52:11.780Like, they're not a small border town that's getting overwhelmed by hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants every few weeks.
01:52:18.820Uh, so I have no sympathy at all for the left on this.
01:52:21.440The one thing that I think, um, and this is essentially why you're hearing about it, why, what is somewhat effective maybe, uh, as an argument is like, I don't want to be lying to people about it.
01:52:32.200I don't want to tell them like, Hey, you're going somewhere and it's not, hold on, let me, let me, let me qualify this.
01:52:40.220There's very little evidence that anyone lied to anyone.
01:52:43.480There are a couple of claims from the immigration attorneys in Martha's vineyard.
01:52:48.440So like, take this with a grain of salt.
01:52:50.360But if our policy was literally a whole salt mine, I don't believe it, frankly, but if it were true, I would have a problem lying to the illegal immigrants about this, even though they're here illegally.
01:53:01.660And don't deserve, uh, any of the treatment that they, that, but it's not like we're sending them to Minnesota.
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