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00:00:30.000 So Uno is slowing down a lot, and I'm feeding him kibble, but I'm also, I'm feeding him hamburger.

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00:02:44.600 Well, hello, you sick freak. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:49.240 It is Monday, and what a Monday it is.

00:02:52.840 Yes, because today's goal is to laugh as much as we can.

00:03:00.340 Enjoy as much as we can.

00:03:02.580 I got some bad news, too. I got to shoehorn that in.

00:03:06.340 But I cannot let the Fonnie Willis story go.

00:03:12.760 There's an update. You know, Friday, right at the end of the show,

00:03:15.860 they found out that she, the Trump people had pinged her phone and his phone.

00:03:25.220 And looks like something was going on in the middle of the night.

00:03:29.880 She's responded now. I don't know if you've heard her response.

00:03:33.500 I just, I mean, could we spend a few minutes just laughing?

00:03:38.160 Yes, and we're going to do that next.

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00:04:41.700 Sorry, I was analyzing my voice there when I got a little lost because my voice was gone over the weekend.

00:04:51.640 I have, I mean, I swear to you, there's no reason for me to do this job.

00:04:58.380 I don't know why I have this job.

00:05:00.140 I don't.

00:05:00.560 I have vocal cords that go at the drop of a hat.

00:05:05.080 And so.

00:05:06.660 Are there any health problems you have yet to acquire?

00:05:08.880 I don't have ALS.

00:05:11.680 That I know of.

00:05:12.700 Yeah.

00:05:13.040 That I know of.

00:05:14.040 I don't have ALS.

00:05:14.960 That's good.

00:05:15.560 There you go.

00:05:16.920 All right.

00:05:17.700 So, and I really need my voice today because, I mean, Fannie Willis.

00:05:23.080 Oh, Fannie.

00:05:24.740 Now, in case you don't remember, Fannie Willis is the prosecutor.

00:05:28.020 She is the DA that is making this case about Donald Trump, you know, trying to steal the election, yada, yada, yada.

00:05:37.500 Well, there's a little problem there because somebody found out that she was paying one of the expert witnesses and investigators an awful lot of money.

00:05:50.900 He was making, like, I think almost twice as much, right?

00:05:55.120 As some of the other experts.

00:05:56.680 Yeah.

00:05:56.780 Some of the other people.

00:05:57.860 So, people started looking into that.

00:06:00.300 And then the rumor came to this investigator that they were having an affair and they were going on lavish trips together.

00:06:08.380 And so, they wondered, wow, hmm, is, I mean, is something going on here that, you know, might lack some professionalism?

00:06:18.680 Yes.

00:06:19.960 And then there became this little squabble of when did you hire him?

00:06:28.140 Did you hire him before or after this case?

00:06:32.520 What is it?

00:06:34.780 There was also a divorce going on.

00:06:38.680 And he was getting a divorce, this prosecutor.

00:06:41.380 He was getting a divorce.

00:06:43.540 And it came up in the divorce trial that those two were having an affair.

00:06:49.480 And he said, no, I've never had an affair in my marriage.

00:06:53.460 Okay.

00:06:53.800 Well, that wasn't true, but he got on the stand and he said, well, it depends on, I'm not making this up, depends on how you define marriage.

00:07:02.960 In my head, we were divorced for a long time.

00:07:07.080 Okay.

00:07:07.480 Not usually the way we do that, but okay.

00:07:11.300 Let's redefine some more things about marriage.

00:07:13.680 Uh, so, the problem is, they swore under oath several times that they didn't have a relationship at all prior to 20, uh, the, well, again, this was a big part of the testimony.

00:07:33.760 Right, I know.

00:07:34.000 Do you mean romantic relationship?

00:07:35.620 Yes, I do.

00:07:36.460 I mean, relationship as if they had met each other.

00:07:39.640 Do we have any porn music?

00:07:40.900 Like, we, you know, that kind of a relationship.

00:07:43.640 You know what I mean?

00:07:44.440 Okay.

00:07:45.320 Uh, they.

00:07:47.200 This guy.

00:07:49.620 Yeah, I could, yeah, this guy.

00:07:50.940 Ding dong.

00:07:51.800 Yeah.

00:07:52.300 Pizza delivery.

00:07:53.980 Okay.

00:07:54.620 All right.

00:07:55.540 Um, so, they had a, uh, they admitted to the relationship after he was hired.

00:08:02.360 And I believe he was hired in November of 2021.

00:08:05.380 So, they, I think, said the relationship started in early 2022.

00:08:10.520 Right.

00:08:11.060 And so, after he was hired.

00:08:12.400 Yeah, after he was hired.

00:08:13.340 And so, the, of course, you know, they went to work to say, wait a minute, this, this, that seems like it started way before that.

00:08:21.620 Right.

00:08:21.720 Including, uh, a testimony from someone, one of her best friends at the time.

00:08:25.500 And then somebody else that, you know, said, uh, attorney-to-client privilege.

00:08:29.680 Right, yes.

00:08:30.040 So, that's like, you know, fifth, okay, we know what you're saying.

00:08:32.620 Sit down.

00:08:33.000 Right.

00:08:33.260 They, one of his attorneys was also asked about this.

00:08:36.660 And obviously, they wouldn't have asked him about this if they didn't know what the answer was.

00:08:40.000 But he couldn't, he, he, he was able to get out of it with attorney-to-client privilege.

00:08:44.440 However, uh, the other witness said they had been together since at least 2019.

00:08:48.760 Now, of course, this is important because the accusation here is that she's trying to extend this and do as much as they can to get as much money into this guy's pocket as possible.

00:09:01.040 In other words, her goal is not justice here.

00:09:03.780 Her goal is to enrich this guy who is, in turn, enriching her.

00:09:07.840 Right.

00:09:08.240 Now, if their answer was immediately, look, this guy's the best in the business.

00:09:13.540 Yeah, we had an affair.

00:09:14.620 It's got nothing to do with this.

00:09:16.240 Uh, we've been dating since 2019.

00:09:18.940 But it doesn't matter because, you know, I knew he did great work and that's why I brought him on this case.

00:09:23.660 It's got nothing to do with this case.

00:09:24.940 They probably skate scot-free on this.

00:09:27.560 But because of his divorce, they don't go down that road.

00:09:31.760 They decide instead to deny everything.

00:09:33.920 And that leads to some problems.

00:09:35.580 Some little problems.

00:09:36.840 Now, so it was really he said, she said kind of stuff.

00:09:42.520 And you didn't have any evidence except it seemed pretty obvious.

00:09:46.240 Nobody, nobody in their right mind could buy their excuses.

00:09:49.500 But if you want to have no shadow of a doubt, you don't really have any evidence.

00:09:55.160 Right.

00:09:55.880 Remember their excuses, too.

00:09:57.580 Yeah.

00:09:57.980 That they went on multiple expensive trips that he paid for on his business credit card.

00:10:04.420 Mm-hmm.

00:10:04.720 Okay.

00:10:05.100 Mm-hmm.

00:10:05.300 His business credit card.

00:10:07.760 Mm-hmm.

00:10:08.020 He paid for those trips.

00:10:09.400 Then, their story is, after they returned, she took some amount, thousands and thousands of dollars,

00:10:18.160 each time, out of her glob of cash she keeps at her house that there are no records of,

00:10:23.920 and she takes the thousands of dollars and gives it to him to pay back for her part of the travel.

00:10:29.780 Remember, they're dating at this point, for her part of the travel, and then he takes it

00:10:34.620 and then never deposits it into his bank account.

00:10:37.700 Right.

00:10:38.200 He just, I guess what, keeps it in his glove box and pays for gas every time in cash.

00:10:42.320 Well, I mean, it's his business credit card.

00:10:44.380 He went into the business and said, here, I owe you this, and just gave him lots of cash.

00:10:48.680 Well, there would be, of course, a record of that.

00:10:50.180 So, that's not what happened.

00:10:51.480 Well, unless the accountant at the business doesn't, we don't count cash coming in.

00:10:57.220 We just put it in, well, this drawer, you know, right here.

00:11:01.720 Oh, yeah.

00:11:02.520 Well, again, like, if you had, if he paid in cash for the trips, this might be kind of believable,

00:11:10.140 even though it's never happened before.

00:11:12.700 This interaction between two people in a romantic relationship has never occurred.

00:11:18.980 Okay.

00:11:19.120 So, now, apparently, there's something called phone records.

00:11:26.820 What?

00:11:27.540 Yes.

00:11:28.440 What does that mean?

00:11:29.040 Well, it means they can track your location by triangulating your location.

00:11:34.680 Now, this is, it's kind of interesting that the phone records show that they had a lot of

00:11:44.860 late night, well, phone calls that kind of came in and, ding dong, pizza, you know, he was playing

00:11:56.100 the pizza delivery.

00:11:56.940 He was.

00:11:57.820 I mean, you know, look, sometimes pizzas do get delivered late at night.

00:12:01.400 Yes, yes.

00:12:01.880 And then other times people look under the box.

00:12:04.560 So, they...

00:12:05.160 Hmm?

00:12:05.360 So, over 2,000 voice calls and just under 12,000 interactions were exchanged.

00:12:14.140 Well, it's 12,000 text messages.

00:12:17.420 Yes, 12,000.

00:12:18.320 2,000 voice calls.

00:12:22.180 Can you think of anything more annoying than receiving 2,000 voice calls from anyone?

00:12:27.980 No.

00:12:28.240 Let alone Fonnie Willis.

00:12:29.480 Good God.

00:12:30.340 I wonder if Tanya and I...

00:12:31.900 This guy deserves a hazard pay.

00:12:34.160 I wonder if Tanya and I have had 2,000 calls back to each other and 12,000 text messages.

00:12:39.440 I mean, there...

00:12:40.360 There's no way.

00:12:40.820 What was the period again?

00:12:42.000 I mean, it's a year.

00:12:43.060 It was January to November.

00:12:44.800 Not a year.

00:12:45.540 10 months.

00:12:46.140 Okay, 10 months.

00:12:46.900 I mean, I talked to my wife on the phone.

00:12:50.400 I'm trying to think.

00:12:52.480 Let's go crazy and say twice a day.

00:12:55.440 I mean, I live with her, right?

00:12:57.380 Right.

00:12:57.440 Like, I...

00:12:57.920 So, I see her at home in the morning and I see her at night.

00:13:01.140 And then, during the day, there's a couple times she might call or text.

00:13:04.820 I mean, you could probably...

00:13:05.960 I could probably count up a month of our texts to see how many were exchanged.

00:13:09.320 But there's no way.

00:13:10.360 It's 1,000.

00:13:11.440 So, I don't carry a phone, but I have an iPad that I'd take texts.

00:13:15.920 And Tanya probably texts me two, three times a day.

00:13:19.260 Maximum.

00:13:19.740 Right.

00:13:20.280 Maximum.

00:13:20.760 That sounds about right.

00:13:21.980 I mean, again, I don't know.

00:13:24.500 Interactions, it's a little bit...

00:13:26.340 It's a little bit...

00:13:27.200 Honestly, like, the text messages, some people text a lot.

00:13:30.560 Some people write small text messages.

00:13:32.440 Some people give you the emoji reactions to them.

00:13:35.200 I don't know what counts in there.

00:13:36.600 So, 12,000, maybe that's understandable.

00:13:39.380 Uh-huh.

00:13:39.640 2,000 voice calls in 10 months?

00:13:43.260 I bet I have not made 2,000 phone calls in 10 months if you combine every call I've made.

00:13:49.540 Now, even if the 12,000 text messages were just doing the salsa dancer emoji, which I don't...

00:14:00.640 Is there a salsa dancer emoji?

00:14:02.060 Yeah, you've never seen that?

00:14:03.040 I have not.

00:14:03.340 I have no idea what it's for.

00:14:04.420 I don't know that I've ever used an emoji, so that's...

00:14:06.580 Yeah, so there's the salsa dancer.

00:14:08.180 And I don't know what the salsa dancer is supposed to represent.

00:14:12.040 I have no idea.

00:14:13.420 And so maybe that's the code salsa dancer.

00:14:16.980 You know what I mean?

00:14:17.420 Right.

00:14:17.580 It's like, hey, let's hook up.

00:14:18.780 Salsa dancer.

00:14:19.440 Right.

00:14:20.000 They have, like, their own code language.

00:14:21.540 If there's 12,000 salsa dancers, we know something's going on.

00:14:25.440 Because, I mean, what does that mean?

00:14:29.100 That's code.

00:14:30.180 Would you be surprised if we saw a lot of eggplants and peaches?

00:14:33.020 Okay, I don't...

00:14:35.020 I don't know what those mean.

00:14:38.860 8,000 of the 12,000 were eggplants or peaches.

00:14:41.740 I don't...

00:14:42.480 I don't...

00:14:43.340 I guarantee they'd be like...

00:14:44.880 Salsa dancer.

00:14:45.560 Look, have you ever had this authentic native dish that has both peaches and eggplants?

00:14:53.300 We kept making it.

00:14:54.160 That's all?

00:14:54.700 That's it.

00:14:55.560 They will go to any length to lie about this at this point.

00:14:59.880 Oh, they are done.

00:15:00.620 Well, here's what she said.

00:15:01.640 And, okay, so just so you know, they have him, how many times?

00:15:07.480 45 times?

00:15:08.800 35 occasions.

00:15:09.780 Yes.

00:15:10.140 At least...

00:15:10.740 At her...

00:15:11.140 And that was a conservative estimate.

00:15:12.960 35 was a conservative estimate about how many times she was there.

00:15:16.680 He was there.

00:15:16.960 So, they have things like this.

00:15:19.200 September 11th through the 12th, deeper analysis.

00:15:22.920 We don't need to say that.

00:15:25.080 Described the attached affidavit from the cell phone tracking.

00:15:28.540 He left the Doral area approximately 10.15 p.m., traveling directly to and arriving within

00:15:35.160 the geofence located on the Dogwood address to approximately 10.45.

00:15:40.400 He left the Dogwood address approximately 3.28 a.m.

00:15:44.260 What happens between 10.45 and 3.28 a.m.?

00:15:49.960 I mean, I'm just...

00:15:53.960 Okay, then he leaves there and he texts Fannie at 4.20.

00:16:02.000 Okay?

00:16:02.480 Can you please call her for the purposes of this?

00:16:04.460 Can you please refer to her as Fannie?

00:16:05.700 I'm having a hard time with your peaches remark.

00:16:08.940 Following a call from Fannie Willis at 11.32 p.m., which continues for 40 minutes, leaving

00:16:15.080 the tower is located near his resident in East Cobb at approximately 12.05 a.m., ongoing

00:16:20.420 call at 12.38.

00:16:23.500 So, he leaves his house to drive to her house and is on the phone with her the whole way.

00:16:27.740 Right?

00:16:28.380 Okay.

00:16:28.620 Then he goes...

00:16:30.420 Just think about this.

00:16:31.280 Then he goes to this area, which includes her home, a very small area between two cell

00:16:37.240 phone towers.

00:16:39.180 And how long does he stay there till?

00:16:41.560 Until 4.45 a.m.

00:16:43.780 4.45 a.m.?

00:16:46.680 Yeah.

00:16:47.000 Is it really 4.45?

00:16:47.940 I didn't realize it was that long.

00:16:49.160 Yeah.

00:16:49.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:50.180 But he never spent the night, as they both testified.

00:16:52.700 No, he didn't.

00:16:52.800 He never spent the night.

00:16:53.960 Now, how would you justify this?

00:16:55.920 You know what makes sense now?

00:16:57.960 Now, why did the prosecution, when they were talking to him and her, why did they say,

00:17:07.100 was he ever at where you laid your head?

00:17:11.680 Yeah, that was the terminology.

00:17:12.800 Now, it was her...

00:17:13.540 She used that terminology first in the testimony.

00:17:15.880 Oh, she did?

00:17:16.520 Yeah, because she kept...

00:17:17.220 He kept...

00:17:18.200 They were trying to say, okay, what about at this condo?

00:17:20.120 She said, I don't even know.

00:17:21.180 I just kept the cash wherever I laid my head.

00:17:25.020 Now, of course, that's always what you do, right?

00:17:27.500 If you, let's say you go to a motel, you bring your $50,000 in cash with you.

00:17:31.920 It just stays with you wherever you go.

00:17:33.500 I know a lot of people operate this way that are in the mob.

00:17:36.520 But other than that, I don't know of anyone who does.

00:17:40.280 So here's what she has said since Friday, since his story broke.

00:17:45.000 Quote, the records do nothing more than demonstrate that a special prosecutor, Wade's telephone,

00:17:50.960 was located somewhere.

00:17:53.460 Not him.

00:17:54.500 It's just his phone.

00:17:55.660 His phone could have been flying...

00:17:57.080 What if it has wings and it's flying around at night?

00:17:59.500 We have no idea.

00:18:00.480 He is...

00:18:01.440 He's a guy he loves to share.

00:18:03.960 He's...

00:18:04.200 Yeah, he's a big sharer.

00:18:05.160 I'm not going to use my phone between 10 o'clock at night and, let's say, 4.55 in the morning.

00:18:11.880 I've got unlimited minutes.

00:18:12.820 Yeah.

00:18:13.160 No one's using them.

00:18:14.000 Yeah.

00:18:14.240 Why don't you use my phone?

00:18:15.220 Use them.

00:18:15.880 So records do nothing more than demonstrate that special prosecutor, Wade's telephone,

00:18:20.420 was located somewhere within a densely populated multiple mile radius where various residents,

00:18:27.780 restaurants, bars, nightclubs, and other businesses are located.

00:18:31.420 How many of those are open at 4.20 a.m.?

00:18:33.500 Well, I'd also like to say, how many cases have you tried on cell phone location?

00:18:41.060 I know.

00:18:41.600 This is so bad.

00:18:42.420 What she is now arguing against is what's called cell hawk, and law enforcement and attorneys

00:18:51.960 say this is the system to triangulate phones.

00:18:56.260 So everybody who is, like, you know, Googled in, how do I get rid of a 120-pound sack of meat

00:19:05.500 and bones, and then, you know, the girlfriend is missing, they always like, yeah, but we have

00:19:13.140 you going to the Home Depot, back to your house, then to the grave site.

00:19:18.380 I'm sorry, to that park you were visiting, you know what I mean?

00:19:23.280 This is the same thing.

00:19:25.160 So if she discredits this, how many cases, I mean, because if I were a defense attorney and my client had gone to jail

00:19:33.820 with this as the linchpin and she discredits, I'd be like,

00:19:38.820 even the district attorney says this isn't good.

00:19:43.020 It's really bad.

00:19:43.860 And do you think she's the type of person who would risk multiple murder investigations

00:19:48.520 just to protect herself, Glenn?

00:19:50.820 Yes.

00:19:51.080 Does she seem like that kind of person?

00:19:52.620 Yes, I do.

00:19:53.320 Wow.

00:19:53.380 That's surprising.

00:19:54.120 So does he.

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00:21:32.960 So, Stu, I mean, I know we had a few ideas on Friday that maybe he was coming over, you know, and looking for her cat.

00:21:53.680 It's possible.

00:21:56.500 It is possible.

00:21:57.420 It is possible.

00:21:58.120 You don't want to, a lost pet is always something that's traumatic to a person.

00:22:01.000 Right, and that would explain the call.

00:22:01.980 She calls him.

00:22:03.180 I lost my cat.

00:22:04.300 And he's like, I'm there to find it for you.

00:22:06.200 And so he comes over, and so he's not at the apartment.

00:22:10.720 He's just looking for her cat.

00:22:13.300 It's a long time to be looking for a cat.

00:22:15.160 I mean, and I would, I don't know this particular area, but any area between the times of 10.45 p.m. and 3.28 a.m.

00:22:23.500 So you know it's your cat.

00:22:25.360 Well, it's a lot of times when cats are lost.

00:22:27.640 It is.

00:22:28.100 But it also is one of those things where, I don't know, you wouldn't necessarily want to be wandering around outside just because of personal safety issues.

00:22:38.200 Huh.

00:22:39.300 Now, this is, of course, just one of the incidents you talked about.

00:22:42.340 Also, November 29th, 2021, she got a call.

00:22:45.520 It was, actually, did you get the November one or the September one?

00:22:48.920 I can't remember.

00:22:49.340 One of them, 3.28 to 4.05 and 11.32 to 4.55.

00:22:54.240 And one of the interesting parts of this is once he got home at 4.05 a.m., he then texted her at 4.20 a.m.

00:23:04.840 Because his dog had been missing that time.

00:23:07.040 He went over to look for her cat.

00:23:08.840 He's got a wiener dog, and it was gone.

00:23:11.660 So he went over to look for her cat, his dog, and he came home.

00:23:17.000 The cat and the dog?

00:23:17.540 I think a lot.

00:23:18.520 A lot of friction between the two.

00:23:21.000 All right.

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00:24:50.760 Welcome to the program, Mr. Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed, a podcast that you can hear directly prior to this program on Blaze TV and Radio Network.

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00:25:06.600 Pat, you are not interested in the Fonnie Willis thing.

00:25:09.820 I mean, not as interested as many, I'm sure, are.

00:25:13.500 Why?

00:25:14.920 It's just fun, isn't it?

00:25:17.160 You don't think it's fun?

00:25:18.440 Not really.

00:25:19.060 You don't think it's, I mean, I think it's fun.

00:25:22.020 I personally think it's fun because I like to see somebody so arrogant just walk into a giant trap of their own making.

00:25:29.420 Of their own making.

00:25:29.940 That's what's satisfying about it to me.

00:25:31.460 I mean, you know, I could see why.

00:25:33.740 I mean, the left is trying to say this doesn't matter at all because they're just trying to distract from Trump's misdeeds.

00:25:41.580 They're lying under oath.

00:25:44.100 Bald face lying under oath without fear of any kind of repercussion.

00:25:51.060 If, I mean, I don't mean to say it this way, but I mean, if she gets off after all of this, if they just move past her.

00:25:59.100 And they're going to.

00:26:01.040 You think?

00:26:01.820 Yeah, probably.

00:26:02.660 I think she's, I don't know, I could be wrong.

00:26:04.940 Nothing ever comes of these things.

00:26:07.060 Oh my gosh.

00:26:08.400 With Democrats, nothing ever comes of it.

00:26:10.820 That is true.

00:26:11.680 If it's a Republican, they're already gone.

00:26:13.560 They're already in jail.

00:26:14.940 Or they're already paying a fine.

00:26:16.560 You know, something.

00:26:17.740 But with Democrats, eh, whatever.

00:26:21.060 Nobody cares.

00:26:21.620 I hope you're wrong on that.

00:26:25.880 This is outside of Washington, D.C., outside of New York, which I've already resigned.

00:26:33.280 However, this is, I mean, this is Georgia.

00:26:36.560 You're now in the South and starting to eat across the country.

00:26:40.160 If this happens in Georgia and somebody can make, can perjure themselves, she should go to jail.

00:26:48.080 She and he should go to jail.

00:26:50.340 There's no way.

00:26:51.120 That's not going to happen.

00:26:51.920 Now, of course, if you follow the law, that is what would occur.

00:26:55.400 What is it?

00:26:55.720 One to ten years?

00:26:57.540 Yeah, one to ten years.

00:26:58.920 Which is pretty blatant here.

00:27:00.480 However, her.

00:27:01.480 And not just once.

00:27:03.580 Multiple.

00:27:04.440 Yeah.

00:27:04.780 I mean, the perjury is bald face, defiant.

00:27:11.480 She, her attorneys, tried to stop her from testifying.

00:27:15.300 She wanted to.

00:27:16.740 She's like, this what's going on.

00:27:18.420 And I'm a proud black woman.

00:27:19.720 And you're just, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:27:23.400 I mean, I, I, I don't know how she doesn't go to jail.

00:27:27.020 But I don't think that's even honestly a possibility.

00:27:29.380 What, what is, what is a possibility to me?

00:27:32.000 Do you agree?

00:27:33.360 I mean, I, I, I don't.

00:27:34.340 I don't know.

00:27:35.340 Pat agrees, obviously.

00:27:36.100 I just, I still, I guess I'm naive.

00:27:39.040 I just still hold out hope.

00:27:40.640 Now, I think there could be consequences to it.

00:27:42.940 So, I mean, because I do think that her being either tossed from this case is a possibility.

00:27:48.820 Yes.

00:27:49.060 And also, I think up until something like her being disbarred is a possibility for this.

00:27:53.920 I mean, the court does not like it when you blatantly lie to them.

00:27:56.840 They do not like that.

00:27:57.560 But she, if she has, if she keeps her law license after this, I mean, that's, there's

00:28:06.400 no justice in, in Georgia.

00:28:08.220 None, none, none.

00:28:11.000 Nothing's changed in the great state of Georgia.

00:28:13.500 Just colors.

00:28:14.900 That's it.

00:28:16.080 And the fact that they keep doubling and tripling down on these lies is also a big part of this,

00:28:20.280 right?

00:28:20.420 Like he, he came out and he's like, yeah, well, so I might've been at the Porsche Experience

00:28:24.300 Center.

00:28:25.040 Oh my God.

00:28:25.740 At 4 a.m.?

00:28:27.300 Like, what were you doing there?

00:28:28.900 I'm a little concerned.

00:28:30.180 I mean, it is an experience and Porsches are great, but they are not open at that time.

00:28:34.460 I was just a, I was an Uber Eats driver.

00:28:36.740 I, I worked on eight light, the very, very late shift only in her neighborhood.

00:28:41.620 The problem with that is there would be records of the deliveries of Uber Eats.

00:28:45.680 No, he was paid in cash.

00:28:47.760 All of the clients paid in cash.

00:28:49.240 That's not how Uber Eats works.

00:28:50.820 Well, it does there.

00:28:51.800 It does there for him.

00:28:53.420 It's a very special Uber Eats.

00:28:55.280 Do you have any other excuses that would justify this?

00:28:57.620 Because I don't think there's...

00:28:58.160 I was going to see my drug dealer.

00:29:00.700 I am a drug dealer.

00:29:02.300 That would be like...

00:29:03.180 I mean, that would explain the large amounts of cash.

00:29:06.080 It wouldn't explain him being in one place for that long of a time, though.

00:29:09.860 No.

00:29:10.800 Other than that, I can't, I can't help you.

00:29:12.760 Can we also address her name?

00:29:14.140 How is it Fonny when there's no W there?

00:29:16.260 It's Fanny.

00:29:17.140 It's Fanny.

00:29:17.680 It's Fanny.

00:29:18.280 It's Fanny.

00:29:18.780 Like Fanny, be tender with my love.

00:29:21.020 It's like the BG song, you know?

00:29:23.080 Or love, be tender with my Fanny.

00:29:25.440 But it's one of those.

00:29:26.380 One of those.

00:29:26.720 It's one of those.

00:29:27.100 It's one of those.

00:29:27.740 One of those.

00:29:28.000 For sure.

00:29:28.640 Yeah.

00:29:28.900 Like, do you think she remixed this just because she knew people would be making these jokes?

00:29:33.140 Yes, I think she did.

00:29:34.220 She's like, actually, it's Fonny?

00:29:34.860 All of a sudden, it's Fonny.

00:29:36.180 You pronounce my name Fonny, not Fanny.

00:29:38.380 I wonder, I assume at this point we would know if this were not true, but it feels like

00:29:44.340 six weeks before this incident happened, she was calling herself Fanny.

00:29:48.900 I feel like at the beginning of this, everyone was calling her Fanny.

00:29:51.220 Everyone was.

00:29:52.100 And then all of a sudden, we're all supposed to call her Fonny.

00:29:54.240 Right.

00:29:55.120 Which I refuse to do.

00:29:56.340 I'm not going to.

00:29:57.160 You're not going to?

00:29:57.780 No, I'm not going to.

00:29:58.800 No, even if it is her name, been longstanding.

00:30:00.720 I don't care.

00:30:01.400 You don't care.

00:30:01.860 I don't care.

00:30:03.060 I'm a rebel that way.

00:30:04.160 You really don't care about this story at all.

00:30:06.640 At all.

00:30:07.980 So, whenever I reference it, though, it's Fanny.

00:30:11.560 I mean, I will tell you that this leads to even, I mean, this makes your point that nothing

00:30:16.020 will happen.

00:30:16.820 This leads to even more destabilization.

00:30:18.940 Because if she's not punished for this, she's not taken off this case, if she doesn't lose

00:30:23.940 her license, it just shows again.

00:30:26.100 They'll do anything.

00:30:27.420 They don't care.

00:30:28.020 Did you read the story in The Atlantic?

00:30:31.540 This is crazy.

00:30:34.320 Let me give you the Atlantic story here.

00:30:37.980 Headline.

00:30:40.500 How Democrats could disqualify Trump if the Supreme Court doesn't.

00:30:45.520 Without clear guidance from the court, House Democrats suggest that they may not certify

00:30:51.160 a Trump win on January 6th.

00:30:54.160 Saw that.

00:30:55.240 Isn't that an insurrection?

00:30:56.740 Isn't that what we've decided?

00:30:58.040 That is.

00:30:58.560 That's an insurrection.

00:30:59.640 On January.

00:31:00.180 Wait, you got to be kidding me.

00:31:02.860 Yeah.

00:31:03.760 Near the end of the Supreme Court oral arguments about whether Colorado could exclude former

00:31:07.820 President Trump from its ballot as an insurrectionist, the attorney representing votes from the state

00:31:13.520 offered a warning to the justice, one evoking the January 6th riot that had set the case

00:31:18.940 in motion.

00:31:19.420 By this point in the hearing, the justice made clear that they didn't like the idea of allowing a single state

00:31:24.700 to kick Trump out over the presidential race, so they didn't appear comfortable with the court doing so either.

00:31:30.800 Sensing that Trump would likely stay on the ballot, the attorney, Jason Murray, said if the Supreme Court

00:31:36.420 didn't resolve the question of Trump's eligibility, it would come back with a vengeance after the election

00:31:43.100 when Congress meets once again to count and certify the votes of the Electoral College.

00:31:49.400 It will come back with a vengeance on January 6th.

00:31:56.000 Are you kidding me?

00:31:59.280 And this with Fannie, but Willis, she's coming in.

00:32:09.140 If there's no law in Georgia, there's no law in New York, no law in D.C., and they decide on January 6th

00:32:25.800 to come back with a vengeance, you know there will be demonstrations all over,

00:32:31.940 and then they overturn the election, what the hell has been happening for the last four years?

00:32:36.280 I mean, that's obviously like a major concern, and that's why I think, for me, the Fannie Willis story is interesting.

00:32:45.920 I mean, I like more than anything else just picking apart their horrible stories, which is just hilarious to me,

00:32:50.900 but at the end of the day, like the political implications of this are really interesting.

00:32:55.020 Because, you know, if you look at the polls, you have a certain section of people who are voting for Trump

00:33:02.080 who say if he's convicted of a felony, they will not vote for him.

00:33:07.280 Now, do you believe that?

00:33:08.800 I am skeptical of that claim.

00:33:10.780 Like, I am skeptical of someone who says they are voting for Trump now, and if he gets convicted of a felony,

00:33:15.900 my belief is they will find a way to talk themselves out of the felony really mattering,

00:33:20.480 and will vote for Trump anyway.

00:33:21.460 Unless they're Democrats.

00:33:23.460 Now, Democrats could easily be saying that.

00:33:26.160 Right.

00:33:26.420 Of course they're saying that.

00:33:27.240 And it could be, but you know what they're saying on it?

00:33:29.040 Independents, people in the middle, people who don't follow this stuff every day.

00:33:31.560 But if there is a high-profile case like this Fannie Willis situation,

00:33:35.940 where one of the big accusations against Trump blows up spectacularly,

00:33:42.920 I think it's going to give a lot of people, you know, okay, they got him on this.

00:33:47.740 Maybe they get him on the documents case later on.

00:33:49.880 But, like, in people's minds, I think it's going to be cemented that a lot of this was just crazy political attacks.

00:33:56.700 And that's what Trump politically needs to convince people of.

00:33:59.940 He needs to be able to get people over that line to think this actually was unfair.

00:34:03.680 Certainly this has worked with Republican primary voters.

00:34:07.200 But remember, he can't win this election with just Republican primary voters.

00:34:10.760 He's got to win it with people in the middle.

00:34:12.320 And those people who are vulnerable to the mainstream media's narratives here,

00:34:17.100 if you have one of these big accusations blow up like this, it may just give him a pass on all of them.

00:34:23.300 Well, I think that it – I mean, I'm only taking this from the left and the Democrats.

00:34:29.360 So maybe it's not true.

00:34:31.020 But I've heard since Bill Clinton that when you persecute somebody like this and you're unfair and you use the court system to go after them,

00:34:42.720 what happens with the black population, Pat, according to their storyline?

00:34:47.560 They're sensitive to it.

00:34:49.480 And they will rally around that person.

00:34:52.880 So Trump has been saying, you know, this might actually hurt them in the end with African Americans.

00:35:01.680 MSNBC had a whole segment with somebody who was like, this is an outrage.

00:35:06.240 What a racist thing to say.

00:35:08.100 The chyron at the bottom of the screen, it said, Trump claims indictments appeal to black voters.

00:35:15.580 Trump claims that?

00:35:17.380 Well, I don't know.

00:35:18.520 I learned that from the DNC.

00:35:20.940 Back in the 90s.

00:35:21.800 Yeah, and the only reason you were going after Barack Obama was because he was black.

00:35:27.020 Our first black president was only black because he was involved in a scandal and everybody went after him.

00:35:34.200 And so now you know what it's like to be a black man.

00:35:37.360 What are – I mean, which – I don't know which one it is.

00:35:40.880 Which one is it?

00:35:42.880 I'm hoping that scandals don't appeal to blacks.

00:35:48.440 I'm hoping that truth appeals to blacks.

00:35:50.620 But I've been taught – we've all been taught dutifully by the mainstream media and by the DNC that, no, no, no, you don't understand.

00:36:02.460 Yeah.

00:36:02.620 So if you happen to be black and listening and you have something to say, I'd love to know.

00:36:09.320 Which is it?

00:36:12.280 Because that changes the dynamic, if that's true.

00:36:15.000 It's just amazing that they keep trying to put people in these categories and appeal to them like this.

00:36:21.960 Like, it's just like –

00:36:22.860 Well, I mean –

00:36:23.480 Appeal to individuals.

00:36:24.280 I wouldn't even have brought that up if it wasn't for MSNBC.

00:36:27.280 No, I don't.

00:36:27.900 I'm looking at this guy around and I'm like, wait, but that's what you've been saying forever.

00:36:33.040 Right.

00:36:33.900 That is 100% what they've been saying.

00:36:36.300 And it's how they treat the world, right?

00:36:37.880 They treat the world with this weird prism of race all the time.

00:36:42.420 Everything's seen through that.

00:36:43.560 Everything is – it's the most important thing about each and every one of us.

00:36:46.680 Yeah.

00:36:46.880 And look, it's a built-in defense for people like Fonnie Willis, right?

00:36:51.860 Which – when she goes to the black church, she says, the reason they're persecuting me is because I'm black.

00:36:57.180 And even though she knew she had lied, she went to church and lied even more and also used her own quote-unquote people as a defense mechanism to the lies she knew she was already making.

00:37:12.740 Crazy.

00:37:13.080 To a court.

00:37:13.700 How you can lie and lie and lie to people and to the media will be lied to and they'll report on those lies, then expose those lies.

00:37:25.740 They'll be exposed as lies and everybody just keeps listening to the liars.

00:37:29.820 Yeah.

00:37:30.140 They're complicit and it doesn't matter.

00:37:31.420 It doesn't matter at all.

00:37:32.640 It doesn't matter.

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00:40:26.620 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:40:39.560 We're glad you're here.

00:40:41.660 I don't even understand this story.

00:40:45.660 Hunter Biden in a news story.

00:40:49.220 Hunter Biden, President Biden privately has expressed worry that Republicans daily attacks on the criminal prosecution of his son, Hunter.

00:40:56.620 Are taking a toll on his family and could even lead Hunter to a relapse, given the family's history of struggling with addiction.

00:41:03.840 Well.

00:41:05.540 Hunter Biden knows this.

00:41:07.260 He told Axios in a rare interview that he sees his continued sobriety as crucial, not only to his life, but also ensuring Donald Trump doesn't return to the Oval Office.

00:41:19.840 Hmm.

00:41:20.360 Help me figure that out.

00:41:23.720 Why would his sobriety be key?

00:41:28.080 Because his dad would have less credibility if Hunter starts using crack again?

00:41:34.660 I mean, maybe he thinks it would look bad and it would it would affect the Biden campaign negatively if he was out smoking crack again in the streets.

00:41:44.080 Does I will say I actually see this as more of their last line of defense.

00:41:47.440 Like if he's about to go into a trial, right, and they're about to go into that and all of a sudden he goes on a crack bender, they're going to he's going to go into rehab for six months and they'll be able to get out of it for a while.

00:41:58.960 I would not be surprised.

00:42:00.300 I, I will not be surprised at all if he has a relapse and that delays any information we get about the Hunter thing.

00:42:08.280 Of course.

00:42:08.820 Would you be surprised at all?

00:42:10.220 This is how it plays off.

00:42:11.420 Not it plays out.

00:42:12.360 No, no, I wouldn't know, no, uh, and they'll blame it on us.

00:42:19.120 They'll blame it on, you know, the right, of course, that we were just persecuting this poor fellow.

00:42:24.780 You know, I wish him all the best in sobriety.

00:42:27.000 It's really hard.

00:42:28.260 I'm, I'm sober and it is not easy, especially after watching his dad.

00:42:33.860 I can't imagine what it's like up close.

00:42:36.260 Um, but, uh, uh, you know, it's, it's hard to keep your sobriety.

00:42:40.940 And I, I wish him all the luck.

00:42:43.220 I, you know, I, I, you know, is everybody, I mean, it seems like he forgot a few steps

00:42:50.480 on the 12th.

00:42:51.480 That's what he'd want him doing.

00:42:52.780 Yeah.

00:42:53.040 I mean, actually he's forgot about eight of the commandments and seven of the step, the,

00:42:59.540 the 12 steps.

00:43:00.880 Wow.

00:43:01.300 Which, which one of the commandments do you think he missed?

00:43:04.320 That wasn't a statistical analysis.

00:43:05.720 I was just joking.

00:43:09.740 Oh man.

00:43:10.940 All right.

00:43:12.240 Uh, back with more in just a second.

00:43:14.840 Stand by.

00:43:27.340 The Glenn Beck program.

00:43:29.820 It's a new day.

00:43:54.560 Welcome to the, uh, program.

00:44:17.080 We're glad you're here.

00:44:17.960 I asked Peter Schweitzer to come on.

00:44:19.840 He's got a new book out.

00:44:20.900 He's with the government accountability Institute.

00:44:23.020 He's president of it.

00:44:24.620 He is the author of blood money.

00:44:27.080 It's a new book.

00:44:27.980 How the communist Chinese party is sowing chaos in the United States.

00:44:33.020 This is a powerful, powerful book that reveals why is it we keep remaining quiet when China

00:44:44.760 does something?

00:44:45.580 Well, why aren't we doing anything?

00:44:48.040 Peter Schweitzer, always amazing because he's got a team of researchers that just go deep.

00:44:56.420 And in this case, uh, he has gone into the, uh, Chinese communist party covert operations, the American drug trade, the social justice movement, the medical establishment, and, uh, and has seen now the chaos and the documentation for it from the Chinese communist party.

00:45:18.620 Peter joins us in 60 seconds.

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00:47:00.840 As always, Peter Schweitzer is, uh, with us.

00:47:03.220 Hello, Peter.

00:47:03.700 How are you?

00:47:05.020 Hey, I'm great, Glenn.

00:47:06.060 How are you?

00:47:06.660 Very good.

00:47:07.280 Very good.

00:47:07.880 Hey, I just got to ask you, um, were you anywhere near James Biden when he threw that really

00:47:14.260 expensive diamond away?

00:47:17.780 No, but I think I'm going to go look through his track.

00:47:20.180 Yeah.

00:47:20.460 That's not the sort of thing I would throw away.

00:47:22.260 Yeah, it's, I mean, the, the excuses on all fronts between Fonnie Willis and the Bidens,

00:47:30.680 I, I mean, who believes this stuff at this point?

00:47:37.220 Yeah, no, I, I think that's right.

00:47:39.020 I mean, you've got a core of people, um, who, uh, you know, so hate Trump, so hurt, uh, so

00:47:45.120 hate traditional, uh, conservatives, uh, that they are going to suspend, uh, any logic and

00:47:51.040 reason, uh, and just follow blindly, uh, with the things that they're being told.

00:47:56.520 Um, you know, we were told for a long time, Joe Biden had no knowledge of any of his family's

00:48:00.720 business dealings.

00:48:01.600 Um, we now know that he does, and, and he's reverted to, well, I didn't make any money

00:48:07.240 off of it.

00:48:07.780 And that's not true either.

00:48:08.780 And so you see this pattern continuously, but this is the onward march of the truth, Glenn.

00:48:14.380 Uh, you've been on this on so many fronts.

00:48:16.080 We've tried to be as well.

00:48:17.560 Um, the truth is undeniable.

00:48:19.560 People will kind of pretend it's not there.

00:48:21.700 They'll obscure it.

00:48:22.600 They'll attack the messenger, but I still believe truth wins out in the end.

00:48:27.100 And you're seeing, I think the house of cards starting to implode.

00:48:30.500 I think so too.

00:48:32.400 Before we get into the new evidence, why do you say that?

00:48:36.360 What do you see?

00:48:37.360 I, uh, what I see is I see the, the attitude and trends of the American people.

00:48:42.280 I mean, they were, you know, they were told, uh, repeatedly that Joe Biden was a centrist,

00:48:47.380 that he was the adult authority.

00:48:49.360 Uh, and I think sort of the last vestiges of, uh, the mainstream media institutions, uh, were

00:48:56.560 able to persuade a sizable portion of people to that fact.

00:48:59.860 Um, I think a lot of people now feel betrayed.

00:49:02.820 I mean, I, I have friends who were, uh, you know, Biden supporters in 2020 who said, this

00:49:07.780 is not the guy that we elected.

00:49:09.300 Forget the cognitive stuff.

00:49:11.240 Um, and, and this is the problem.

00:49:12.960 I think a lot of these institutions believe that they can continue to deceive and manipulate

00:49:19.040 without a cost.

00:49:20.240 Well, it's costing them in, in terms of their credibility and it's severely damaged.

00:49:24.740 And if you look at the polls just on the Biden corruption story, which we've been on, you

00:49:29.240 know, since 2018, you've now got in the high 60%, um, on all these surveys, Harvard, Harris,

00:49:36.900 ABC news, et cetera, saying that they, American people believing that Joe Biden, uh, either

00:49:43.060 committed crimes or engaged in unethical behavior to help his family's business.

00:49:47.380 So that to me is an amazing number.

00:49:50.160 They haven't though, connected it to the policies.

00:49:53.220 For instance, the balloon, the Chinese balloon, we had another one, you know, we thought, you

00:49:58.000 know, this one is apparently a hobbyist.

00:50:00.040 I don't know if that's true or not.

00:50:01.620 Um, but, uh, you know, when, when you see things that are happening with China, you're

00:50:06.180 like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:50:07.860 For instance, on the border, you have, I think 46 questions.

00:50:11.500 If you're coming into the United States illegally, you have 46 questions you have to be asked.

00:50:17.260 He told the department of Homeland security and border patrol, they could only ask, what

00:50:22.080 was it?

00:50:22.640 Seven or something like that.

00:50:24.680 Right.

00:50:24.920 If you're from China and nobody connects that can, can you help make that connection here?

00:50:31.400 Yeah.

00:50:31.940 I mean, look, I think, um, one of the things I talked about in the book is, um, the whole

00:50:36.720 issue of fentanyl.

00:50:37.740 Hang on just a second.

00:50:38.500 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:50:39.300 And I just want to teach you this and I know, you know, this already, but stop return or

00:50:42.920 referring to it as my book.

00:50:46.080 It's called blood money.

00:50:47.900 So every time, you know, it's like I talk about in blood money, just trying to help you

00:50:52.760 sell.

00:50:53.120 Go ahead.

00:50:55.220 Thanks, Glenn.

00:50:56.580 You're welcome.

00:50:57.120 Yeah, no, it's in, in blood money.

00:50:59.720 Um, I talk about, I talk about how, you know, I got, I got a lot of documents, uh, leaked

00:51:05.300 from Homeland security, from other government agencies, China's involvement in

00:51:09.220 fentanyl is, is completely at every link in the chain, not just the precursors that everybody

00:51:14.800 knows about the port that the precursors go into Mexico.

00:51:18.080 That port is run by a Chinese company.

00:51:20.320 The precursors are sent to a small town in Northern Mexico where 2000 Chinese nationals

00:51:26.700 happen to be living, helping the drug cartels, turn the fentanyl into, you know, the precursors

00:51:33.120 into fentanyl.

00:51:33.880 They use Chinese pill presses, Homeland security says Chinese companies sold those pill presses

00:51:39.740 to the cartels at cost.

00:51:41.700 They're not even price gouging them.

00:51:43.980 They're selling them at cost to create this poison, which is poisoning Americans.

00:51:48.960 So, so cartels, the Mexican, uh, Peter, I've, I've said for a long time, um, that this is,

00:51:54.980 this is the drug war that they learned this, uh, you know, in the opium wars, what England

00:52:00.380 did to them, they're doing to us.

00:52:02.580 Does that stand up?

00:52:04.700 Absolutely.

00:52:05.420 One hundred percent.

00:52:06.260 They, they, they talk about that.

00:52:08.120 And here's the thing.

00:52:09.300 I mean, they are involved in every level from the precursors to the money laundering.

00:52:13.780 The drug cartels used to launder their money in Latin American banks.

00:52:17.240 They now launder them in Chinese state owned banks.

00:52:20.540 Uh, and they actually use, uh, uh, some Chinese students that are here on education visas are the

00:52:26.380 ones that are laundering the money for these cartels.

00:52:28.840 So here's, here's the problem, Glenn.

00:52:31.720 That's what China is doing.

00:52:33.020 And to those of us who have studied China to a certain extent, that's not surprising.

00:52:37.600 Here is the shocking, surprising part to me, which is our political class.

00:52:43.120 Many of them will not talk about China's involvement.

00:52:46.820 And the reason is they are compromised.

00:52:49.960 Uh, you ask connect the, you know, the Biden flow of money to a particular policy.

00:52:54.440 I would say fentanyl.

00:52:56.160 Think about this reality for a second.

00:52:57.840 I talk about this in blood money.

00:52:59.580 The guy that leads a Chinese criminal gang called UBG.

00:53:04.480 This is the criminal gang that set up the Sinaloa cartel in the fentanyl trade and made

00:53:10.920 them the Kings of fentanyl.

00:53:12.640 Everybody acknowledges UBG did that.

00:53:15.020 The guy that heads it up is young on low.

00:53:17.740 He goes by the name white Wolf.

00:53:20.100 White Wolf has a business partner who is, I document in the book, sent $5 million to the

00:53:26.240 Biden family.

00:53:27.780 Now, does, does Joe Biden really want to have a conversation about Chinese involvement in

00:53:32.620 the fentanyl trade?

00:53:33.420 No.

00:53:33.680 And that's why he won't do it.

00:53:35.320 That's why he won't confront them, even though it is now the leading cause of death for people

00:53:39.960 under the age of 45 in the United States.

00:53:42.260 It's like a jetliner getting shot down every single day, 365 days a year.

00:53:48.320 That's what's happening to us.

00:53:50.080 Joe Biden won't talk about it because he's compromised.

00:53:52.660 And as I think I also show in the book, the same thing with Gavin Newsom, Mitch McConnell,

00:53:58.260 Adam Schiff and others.

00:53:59.500 They do not want to have this conversation because they have entanglements that are very,

00:54:04.580 very embarrassing for them politically.

00:54:07.620 Talk a little bit about this, these people, Peter, because as you do in all of your books,

00:54:11.300 you don't, this isn't a partisan attack.

00:54:13.220 You go after, you know, when Mitch McConnell is guilty, you go after him.

00:54:16.800 When Gavin Newsom's the target, you go after him.

00:54:19.540 So talk a little bit about some of these figures specifically, because it's hard for people

00:54:23.920 to believe that when you're talking about the cost of life that is tied to the fentanyl

00:54:31.660 situation, that people would be this, you know, this absent when talking about this.

00:54:37.220 But it seems like they are.

00:54:39.360 No, that's a great question.

00:54:41.100 I mean, I'll give the Gavin Newsom part to me was perhaps the most surprising.

00:54:47.040 You know, Governor of California obviously recently took a trip to China where he talked

00:54:51.440 about how he just loves the Chinese government.

00:54:53.820 He talked to them about fentanyl, but emphasized it's not about finger pointing.

00:54:58.740 The one people he did point fingers at when he was in China was Republicans in the United

00:55:04.200 States saying that they're too hard on Beijing.

00:55:07.140 So, you know, in California since 2016, you've had a 1200 percent increase in fentanyl deaths.

00:55:14.420 Gavin Newsom does not want to talk about China's role.

00:55:16.760 Why is that?

00:55:17.820 Well, when you look back into his history, beginning when he was mayor in San Francisco,

00:55:21.440 he has a longtime relationship, collaboration with figures that we know are involved in

00:55:29.480 Chinese organized crime.

00:55:30.800 When he was mayor of San Francisco, he appointed a gentleman named Alan Long to head up redevelopment,

00:55:37.860 economic redevelopment in Chinatown, San Francisco.

00:55:40.740 Turns out the guy was a dragon head in an organized crime syndicate, Chinese organized crime syndicate

00:55:46.780 that was involved in the drug trade.

00:55:48.300 He had a gentleman on his transition team as mayor of San Francisco.

00:55:54.220 Turns out he was also involved in the organized crime efforts, Chinese organized crime involved

00:56:00.620 in the drug trade.

00:56:01.700 Then when he set up as mayor of San Francisco, something called China SF.

00:56:05.980 This was designed to get Chinese investments into San Francisco for economic growth.

00:56:12.900 He picks a guy named Vincent Lowe, a Chinese businessman who has already been reported has ties to Chinese

00:56:19.940 organized crime.

00:56:20.860 But that's the one guy that Gavin Newsom signs a memorandum of understanding to with China

00:56:26.580 SF.

00:56:27.180 And you have to ask yourself, why on earth is he doing that?

00:56:29.780 And as I also point out in blood money, that meant that triad or Chinese organized crime businesses that are tied

00:56:38.340 to them now came into the Bay Area and they were actually brought into the Bay Area through this program

00:56:43.700 Gavin Newsom set up called China SF.

00:56:46.200 Now, I'm not suggesting that Gavin Newsom is involved in the drug trade.

00:56:50.140 But what I am saying is he made some really, really, really bad decisions.

00:56:55.220 And I think he knew he made decisions that he was doing business with because he thought

00:57:00.160 it was politically expedient and that, you know, the history goes forward from there.

00:57:05.080 But my point is, Gavin Newsom does not want to talk about China's involvement, Chinese organized

00:57:10.280 crime involvement in the fentanyl trade, because that's going to open up lots of questions about

00:57:15.740 him and the relationships that he has.

00:57:18.640 So he's making a politically expedient decision, even though Californians are dying every single

00:57:25.460 day from this poisoning that's being engineered by China.

00:57:29.200 All right.

00:57:29.360 So I want to take a quick break, Peter, and then I want to come back.

00:57:32.360 I want to talk about White Wolf.

00:57:35.400 And does the president know that all of this is happening and he's playing a big role in it?

00:57:43.940 How could he not?

00:57:45.360 And also, I want to know about Mitch McConnell as well.

00:57:48.520 We'll do that in 60 seconds.

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00:59:48.380 All right, so we're talking to Peter Schweitzer.

00:59:58.940 He is the author of a new book called Blood Money, and it is all about the Chinese Communist Party sowing the seeds of chaos in the United States.

01:00:08.980 Before we move on to other things, I just want to ask you about, I mean, if I'm doing business with somebody whose nickname is White Wolf, I think I back away from that deal automatically, but maybe that's just me.

01:00:24.460 How much do you think the president knows about his dealings and his connections to what's happening on the border?

01:00:33.680 It's a good question.

01:00:36.480 It's very clear, and I think even the Biden team would admit this, that he's aware that his family has received large sums of money from China, you know, tens of millions of dollars based on the private equity deal, based on the money from CEFC, based on the money from Henry Zhao and others.

01:00:55.920 So I think he's aware of that.

01:00:57.600 I think he's also aware of the leverage opportunity that it presents.

01:01:02.320 By the way, Glenn, I should add, it's not just the president's.

01:01:06.320 It's the president's family lawyer, Abby Lowell, that has some of these issues as well.

01:01:13.280 He has represented a Chinese businessman named Heng Lapseng, who turns out also is widely reported to have been linked to Chinese organized crime, including a syndicate involved in the international drug trade.

01:01:29.680 And the work he was doing was not courtroom work for this guy as a lawyer.

01:01:34.580 He was actually doing legal representation work.

01:01:37.320 So these entanglements are a real problem.

01:01:40.440 I think the president's aware of it.

01:01:43.260 I think it's the reason we have this soft posture.

01:01:46.740 You know, they present Mitch McConnell does the same thing that, oh, we're being tough on China.

01:01:51.320 We have these sanctions.

01:01:52.580 If somebody is recognized as being involved in the federal trade, we're going to sanction them.

01:01:58.300 The Chinese are laughing at this.

01:02:00.860 There's a Chinese businessman named Juan who was sanctioned by the U.S. government in 2021.

01:02:07.500 He gave a speech after he was sanctioned where he talked about how proud he was that the activities he were doing were helping China in their competition with the United States.

01:02:18.340 And in March of 2021, the Chinese government actually gave him an award after he was sanctioned for being involved in the fentanyl trade.

01:02:25.960 So, you know, their, quote, unquote, hard position on China on fentanyl is an absolute joke.

01:02:32.320 And that goes for the Biden administration.

01:02:34.520 That goes for Mitch McConnell.

01:02:36.320 We've talked before extensively about the McConnell family's deep ties in China.

01:02:42.260 They're in the shipping business.

01:02:44.040 A big part of the fentanyl problem, I would argue, involves a Chinese company called Hutchison that owns these ports, including the port in Manzanillo, where more than 90 percent of the fentanyl precursors arrive.

01:02:58.840 So Mitch McConnell does not want to talk about this either.

01:03:02.020 That is that's just remarkable.

01:03:03.660 By the way, he's in the shipping business.

01:03:05.200 I think they used to be called the import-export industry, which we all know was just rife with crime.

01:03:12.920 Anything to, Peter, I didn't follow this story at all, but I guess, was it his sister-in-law or somebody was killed recently, Mitch McConnell's, and the speculation was that's because he's involved with the Chinese drugs?

01:03:27.840 Was there anything to that at all?

01:03:30.380 Not that I know of.

01:03:31.560 It's Angela Chow.

01:03:33.020 That is Mitch McConnell's wife's sister.

01:03:36.940 Angela Chow was for a while on the board of the Bank of China, which is the Chinese-run bank, which is highly unusual for an American to be so.

01:03:46.360 I know that she died, and they're looking at it right now.

01:03:50.280 Apparently, she was in a car that ended up in a pond or in a lake in Texas.

01:03:55.600 But again, I'm surprised there's not more news attention being focused on that.

01:04:00.140 And I think it needs to be investigated because these are highly sensitive issues that deserve investigation.

01:04:08.980 So China knows what they're doing, and this is only one of their lines of attack.

01:04:18.320 Yeah.

01:04:19.040 And their goal is to collapse us?

01:04:24.420 Yeah.

01:04:24.920 I mean, they have a strategy called disintegration warfare that was actually a book published in 2010 by Chinese officials.

01:04:34.500 They've also published a previous book called Unrestricted Warfare that just basically said,

01:04:38.980 Look, the way you win wars is not by actually fighting wars.

01:04:42.500 You defeat people in peacetime.

01:04:45.480 And the way we have to think about it is America is on fire.

01:04:49.540 China is holding this empty can of gasoline, and our leaders are doing nothing about it.

01:04:55.100 All right.

01:04:55.300 And it includes violence in the streets, all kinds of things.

01:04:57.600 The name of the book is Blood Money by Peter Schweitzer.

01:05:01.640 More in just a minute.

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01:06:37.420 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:06:40.000 We're with Peter Schweitzer.

01:06:41.600 He is the president of the Government Accountability Institute.

01:06:44.960 He is also a guy who has written several books, exposés, on both the right and the left.

01:06:53.020 The left now forgets that he does that, and they just call him a tool of the right.

01:06:58.280 But he lets the chips fall where they may.

01:07:01.740 Thus, why he's also talking about people in several books, like Mitch McConnell.

01:07:07.420 So, Peter, we're talking about, in your book, Blood Money, how the Chinese Communist Party is sowing chaos in the United States.

01:07:16.200 Is there, I mean, not that there needs to be, but do you have evidence of more things other than just the fentanyl?

01:07:22.620 Oh, absolutely.

01:07:25.120 Take the issue of the trans movement in the United States.

01:07:29.440 I mean, this just erupted in the last five years.

01:07:31.900 Well, as I point out in the book, two of the biggest funders of the trans movement in America are China-based billionaires.

01:07:40.020 One is an American Marxist named Roy Singham.

01:07:43.920 He worked, he built a company called ThoughtWorks.

01:07:47.420 He was a consultant advisor to Huawei, a Chinese military-linked company.

01:07:51.960 He sold his business, made him a billionaire to a private equity company partly owned by the Chinese government.

01:07:58.820 He moved to Beijing.

01:08:00.260 He's very close friends with people in the CCP.

01:08:03.160 He gets invited to their events.

01:08:05.340 He's put more than $160 million into radical causes in the United States, including the trans rights movement.

01:08:12.380 The other Chinese billionaire doing that is a guy named Joe Tsai, who is the co-founder of Alibaba.

01:08:18.880 He has poured tens of millions of dollars into the trans rights movement.

01:08:23.900 In addition, he owns the WNBA team in New York, the New York Liberty, which was the first professional sports team to have a trans athlete play.

01:08:34.060 Now, here's the very troubling part for me, Glenn, about this is these guys do not push for these rights in China.

01:08:41.400 They only push for these rights in the United States.

01:08:45.140 There's no, you know, they're not trans.

01:08:47.260 They don't have family members that are trans.

01:08:49.860 This is clearly an effort to, you know, destabilize the United States.

01:08:54.940 If you look at a lot of the violent actions in the streets in 2020 with BLM or the violent actions in the streets now involving pro-Hamas demonstrators, there are a couple of groups, FRSO, PSL, that spearhead these really radical, violent protests.

01:09:11.180 And as I lay out in the book, these organizations that take their marching orders from China, in some cases, there are financial ties.

01:09:19.360 They consult with Chinese officials.

01:09:21.340 And I quote from Chinese government reports where they actually monitor and track the behavior of these organizations.

01:09:28.160 And then the other part I would add is online.

01:09:31.420 There's so much craziness online.

01:09:33.720 The Chinese military, the PLA, has thousands of experts that run individually thousands of social media accounts where they pose as Americans in the United States.

01:09:46.620 Basically, half the accounts, Glenn, say America is a hopelessly racist, bigoted society.

01:09:52.900 And the other half of the accounts say, I only like white people.

01:09:56.500 And they're posing as Americans.

01:09:58.320 I think we are actually less divided than we believe we are.

01:10:03.200 And China is trying to create fissures between us.

01:10:07.100 And they're very explicit that this is part of the disintegration warfare strategy that they've embraced.

01:10:12.140 Where would you put this on the scale of PSYOP operations of the past from Soviet Union and everything else?

01:10:19.500 How big is this?

01:10:21.260 Oh, no comparison.

01:10:22.640 I mean, look, the Russians lacked sophistication when it came to this stuff.

01:10:27.380 They lacked capacity.

01:10:29.380 China is very, very aggressive in their approach here.

01:10:34.260 And if you think about it, it's brilliant.

01:10:36.080 It's basically saying we're going to beat the United States without actually fighting a war.

01:10:40.780 And as we focus exclusively on, you know, how many battleships do we have or how many aircraft carriers do we have?

01:10:48.220 What is the situation in Taiwan?

01:10:50.140 Those are important issues.

01:10:51.420 I'm not saying they aren't.

01:10:52.660 But that is the exclusive focus in Washington.

01:10:55.520 Nobody wants to focus on China's meddling in the United States.

01:10:59.380 I will tell you, I somewhat disagree with you.

01:11:02.760 We that's why are that's why we're doing a color revolution op really, I think, on ourselves and all over the world.

01:11:12.220 We are doing that, but we are not doing it with China.

01:11:16.460 We'll do it in Ukraine and everything else where we'll have these color revolutions and and use many of these tactics on our own people.

01:11:24.100 Now, it has been shown.

01:11:25.240 Yeah, but yeah, but China is approached as a friend in many ways.

01:11:32.320 Yeah, no, exactly.

01:11:33.100 I agree with you.

01:11:33.780 Yes, there's no question.

01:11:34.800 The color revolutions that, you know, started in the Obama administration, the Chinese actually cite those as examples of what to use.

01:11:43.800 But yeah, I mean, the problem is we don't have an awareness of this.

01:11:48.160 And there are people on the political left that that have some affinity for Beijing that don't want to have this conversation.

01:11:55.620 I have in the book, for example, quotes from there's a Chinese organization called the Center for the Study of Foreign Marxist Parties, Political Parties.

01:12:05.140 It reports directly to the Central Committee, the CCP.

01:12:08.700 We got access to their analysis in the United States.

01:12:12.040 And one of the points of analysis is that, yes, the Communist Party USA is disorganized.

01:12:18.240 It's small and it's irrelevant.

01:12:20.280 But they talk favorably about the role of people like AOC and Bernie Sanders.

01:12:25.400 And they say, while these are not perfect vehicles, they are still very helpful vehicles in advancing the agenda that they have in the United States.

01:12:34.560 So, you know, the political left doesn't want to talk about it because these are their champions.

01:12:38.820 And yet there it is in black and white, according to the Chinese point of view.

01:12:44.560 Talking to Peter Schweizer, the book is Blood Money and it's out tomorrow.

01:12:47.280 You need to get a copy of it.

01:12:48.580 Peter, can you talk about the how much of this stuff that China is trying to do would be ineffective if we had a secure border?

01:12:57.180 And is this one of the reasons why we continually treat the border with such little significance in the federal government?

01:13:05.200 Yeah, no, I mean, that's a great point.

01:13:08.100 I mean, there's obviously the issue of illegal immigrants coming, particularly from China.

01:13:14.760 It also involves certainly with fentanyl.

01:13:17.060 But there's another problem.

01:13:18.680 It's I talk about in the book.

01:13:20.640 Part of the Chinese strategies is so violent in American streets.

01:13:24.720 China has a history of selling machine guns to radical groups and criminal organizations in the United States going back to the 1990s.

01:13:34.180 They do it today in a very clever way with a small device called a Glock switch.

01:13:39.580 It's a small switch that you put on a Glock handgun.

01:13:42.620 It converts a Glock handgun to a fully automatic machine gun.

01:13:46.120 It's obviously highly illegal in the United States, highly illegal in China.

01:13:51.340 In China, you can't even own a firearm.

01:13:52.760 And yet the Chinese are openly marketing them and smuggling them into the United States and selling them to criminal gangs in this country.

01:14:02.380 It's a massive widespread problem.

01:14:05.020 The rate of machine gun fire on American streets has escalated.

01:14:08.960 And Customs and Border Protection first identified this in 2018.

01:14:12.760 They finally have started to detect these things as they arrive in the mail.

01:14:17.720 So what are the Chinese now doing?

01:14:20.500 They're now going south of the border.

01:14:22.560 They're setting up machine tool operations with the cartels.

01:14:25.960 And they're starting to smuggle these devices across the open border.

01:14:30.180 So it's illegal immigrants.

01:14:32.100 It's fentanyl.

01:14:33.080 It's now these devices.

01:14:34.520 They're going to sow chaos in American streets because these devices are being targeted specifically at drug organizations and violent criminal organizations in the United States.

01:14:46.600 So, Peter, you at some point in the book, Blood Money, you say the CCP tricked the Trump administration into COVID lockdowns.

01:14:57.220 Yeah.

01:14:57.480 What do you mean by that?

01:14:58.260 What evidence do you have of that?

01:15:00.540 Well, a couple of things.

01:15:02.120 One, if you remember back in March of 2020, there was a report issued by Imperial College of London by a professor Ferguson.

01:15:11.220 And it presented this apocalyptic view that if we did not imitate the Chinese and have lockdowns, there were going to be 2 million American dead within the next six months.

01:15:21.360 And there are going to be 500,000 dead in the U.K.

01:15:23.900 And if you look at the accounts, the memoirs that have come out, this had a very profound effect on Donald Trump and the administration.

01:15:33.240 And this moved us to the point of saying, maybe we need to start looking at some of these things.

01:15:38.520 And, in fact, we did.

01:15:39.960 Here's the problem.

01:15:40.840 That Imperial College of London study was done under Chinese influence.

01:15:46.760 Imperial College of London is a leading academic partner of the CCP government in China.

01:15:52.920 They have a long cooperation there.

01:15:55.500 That particular study included Chinese data.

01:15:58.700 It included Chinese scholars.

01:16:01.100 And then the Chinese, and again, I quote extensively from them, had a strategy to impose the authoritarian model for responding to disease on us.

01:16:12.060 Because you've talked about this, Glenn.

01:16:13.700 Before this point, the response was always people that are sick should stay home.

01:16:17.740 Everybody else should go about their lives ordinarily.

01:16:20.520 That's not the Chinese model.

01:16:22.040 The Chinese actively pushed that in the United States.

01:16:25.160 So one of the things they do, as I report in Blood Money, is they donated, I'll put that in quotation marks, drones to American cities, particularly in California and New Jersey.

01:16:36.460 Hundreds of drones that local governments, our own governments, started using to monitor their own people to make sure they were adhering to lockdowns.

01:16:47.000 And this was part of a Chinese strategy.

01:16:49.000 And this was part of a Chinese strategy to get us to embrace some of these authoritarian approaches.

01:16:54.780 And it's really quite extraordinary.

01:16:56.280 And, you know, one of the reasons that we have a certain individual on the front cover of the book, Tony Fauci, is because we reveal in emails that we obtained, et cetera, that he covered for the Chinese in this regard.

01:17:12.980 That he would not criticize the Chinese.

01:17:15.900 It's not just about the lab leak.

01:17:18.160 He would not criticize the Chinese.

01:17:20.220 He embraced their lockdown approaches.

01:17:24.140 And he kind of poo-pooed and criticized Americans.

01:17:28.120 There's a famous exchange where a New York Times reporter is emailing with Tony Fauci and says China has been heroic in their response to this crisis with COVID, unlike, you know, Americans who are basically being fat, selfish slobs.

01:17:44.320 And Tony Fauci's response was, yeah, you make a really, really great point here.

01:17:48.760 I mean, in other words, he agreed with them.

01:17:50.180 So that's the disdain that a lot of these leaders had for their own countrymen and the embrace that they had for this authoritarian model that the CCP imposed.

01:18:01.920 So I'm out of time.

01:18:02.940 Peter, will you come back in a couple of days when you can come up for a breath of air and tell us where we need to start to dismantle?

01:18:10.260 I mean, again, I thank you for exposing all of this.

01:18:13.560 You're usually so far ahead of the curve, but I think America senses now something is really wrong, especially with our relationship with China and the border and fentanyl.

01:18:26.440 So you're right on the money here.

01:18:29.020 I'd love to have you back to talk a little bit more about where we should begin to dismantle and how that can be done.

01:18:37.180 Yeah, we'd love to do it as always, Glenn.

01:18:39.240 Appreciate your encouragement and support as always, and I'm glad to come back.

01:18:43.020 Got it.

01:18:43.460 Thank you so much, Peter.

01:18:44.660 Peter Swiser, he is an unbelievable, an unbelievable author, good friend of the program, known him for years.

01:18:51.900 He never, never holds back any punches from either side.

01:18:58.560 He is as fair as they come and extraordinarily well buttoned up.

01:19:04.220 His book, the latest, you should get it, comes out tomorrow, is Blood Money.

01:19:09.220 Blood Money by Peter Swiser.

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01:19:20.300 Made in America.

01:19:21.580 While a lot of the meat of the grocery store has a little flag on it that says product of the USA, that could mean that they just put it in the styrofoam tray.

01:19:30.160 I'm not making that up.

01:19:31.700 It means they may have trimmed some of the fat here in America.

01:19:35.100 Right now, an overwhelming number of the meat in our stores is from overseas.

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01:21:09.580 I hope Peter is right about what he said at the beginning of the hour that, you know, the house of cards is coming down.

01:21:24.180 But, I mean, I don't know how you put this genie back in the bottle.

01:21:29.140 And isn't it interesting how everyone talks about disinformation from Russia and no one talks about disinformation from China?

01:21:38.500 With what he said.

01:21:39.980 By the way, his book has over a thousand footnotes at the end.

01:21:45.620 Over a thousand.

01:21:46.780 He's very well-researched.

01:21:47.980 Yeah.

01:21:48.060 If you know anything about Peter.

01:21:49.060 Yeah.

01:21:49.780 It's interesting.

01:21:50.880 The two things, if you think about just the fact that we don't really talk about the Chinese part of this as opposed to, let's say, the Russian part of what they do.

01:21:59.320 And Russia tries all sorts of shady stuff, too.

01:22:01.080 Yeah.

01:22:01.220 But China never gets talked about.

01:22:02.980 That's one.

01:22:03.500 And then, two, the fact that China does all these things in our country and not in theirs is really powerful to see what their motivations are.

01:22:09.980 Oh, yeah.

01:22:10.400 Like, why?

01:22:11.200 They know.

01:22:11.340 They're rotting us from the inside.

01:22:12.720 Yeah.

01:22:13.700 Intentionally.

01:22:14.260 And they, you know, the idea that the nation of China is playing a long game is not a new one.

01:22:20.000 Yeah.

01:22:20.080 It's well-known and it has been for a long time.

01:22:22.940 But the fact that they're doing it so overtly, it doesn't seem like they care about any consequences here, Glenn.

01:22:29.300 Like, it doesn't.

01:22:30.140 And it explains why thousands of Chinese military-age men are here.

01:22:38.620 You know?

01:22:39.140 You look at, where was that?

01:22:41.540 Was that Maine or Vermont?

01:22:43.500 It was Maine, wasn't it?

01:22:44.540 The guy who called in and said all these Chinese operations are happening, you know, here in the state.

01:22:52.660 They're all coming across the border and they're selling drugs and all the money's going back to China and nobody's doing anything.

01:22:58.420 It makes this make a little more sense.

01:23:02.560 What's the reason for, because you mentioned something off the air briefly as we were coming back from commercial about how this ties into the Fannie Willis situation.

01:23:09.420 I think this ties into the Fannie Willis thing on nothing matters.

01:23:17.760 Lack of consequences.

01:23:19.180 Yeah, there's so many people involved in this that, you know, nobody's being prosecuted.

01:23:28.240 No one ever pays a price.

01:23:29.080 Nobody pays a price for anything.

01:23:31.120 I mean, they released a virus that killed millions of people.

01:23:34.120 They didn't pay a price for that.

01:23:35.120 And so it's like, it's like, why, you know, if you're just out for yourself, I'm going to get mine.

01:23:39.980 Why not?

01:23:40.860 Why not do that?

01:23:42.780 Because nobody ever gets caught doing anything and pays a price for it.

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01:24:34.300 Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

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01:24:49.760 It is Monday.

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01:24:57.660 There is, I mean, Super Tuesday is next week.

01:25:02.300 And it's like, really?

01:25:03.560 I mean, what is the point of that?

01:25:06.320 Trump is crushing Nikki Haley now.

01:25:09.360 Uh, there's lots of other things to talk about, but I want to spend this hour talking to you about history and history that you may not know.

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01:26:59.940 There are three books that should be a must in everyone's library.

01:27:05.660 Everyone, within the sound of my voice, should have these three books, and I do not mean have them online.

01:27:16.680 You must have a copy, a hard-bound or a paper copy of these three books.

01:27:25.320 The first one, the 5,000-year leap, the miracle that changed the world.

01:27:32.740 That miracle was America.

01:27:35.060 And it is the clearest defining of our principles and what makes us, what made us.

01:27:44.600 5,000-year leap.

01:27:45.880 Number two, The American Story, The Beginnings.

01:27:51.760 The American Story, The Beginnings is the second book you should get.

01:27:56.700 And that's the beginning of a series.

01:27:58.640 The second book in the series comes out tomorrow, The American Story, Rebuilding the Republic.

01:28:06.100 Those three books you must have.

01:28:09.060 Because the truth of who we are, what got us here, what our real history is, good, bad, ugly, is being erased.

01:28:20.800 All of it is being erased.

01:28:23.020 Right now, when you have AI, and we know this as a fact now, AI is going through any digital libraries,

01:28:32.360 and they are making small but meaningful changes in history,

01:28:38.540 at some point, you will not be able to go online and find the true history of America.

01:28:45.620 It must be preserved by people like you.

01:28:49.520 And The American Story, book one, The Beginnings, and now, Building the Republic,

01:28:54.740 written by David Barton and Tim Barton, his son, and they join me now, comes out tomorrow.

01:29:00.940 David, how are you?

01:29:01.880 Good, man.

01:29:02.620 Good to be with you.

01:29:03.280 I am so excited for this book, because you guys tell really pithy stories.

01:29:09.500 You cover a lot of ground.

01:29:12.200 It's easy to read, and they're fun.

01:29:14.660 They're great stories.

01:29:16.840 The thing I learned when I began teaching at church is the teacher thinks when you're going in,

01:29:24.740 I'm going to teach these kids.

01:29:26.320 But if you really take it seriously, the teacher learns more than the kids do, usually.

01:29:32.340 So you've been teaching American history forever.

01:29:35.420 Tim, you're teaching American history now.

01:29:37.380 What did you guys learn that maybe shocked you?

01:29:42.560 You know, I think I was shocked at the content, the amount of material that was brand new to me.

01:29:47.840 And I think I've been through tens of thousands of original documents.

01:29:51.700 I think I have a pretty good feel for the original content, and yet there was so much more that I had never been exposed to.

01:29:59.180 But anything that was beyond nuance, anything that was like, oh, my gosh, this is – we have this wrong, are we –

01:30:05.660 And there definitely were things that were affirmations, we were going the right direction.

01:30:10.280 But then some were fun tidbits, like George Washington.

01:30:13.140 We know he had teeth problems, right?

01:30:14.740 And you know he had dentures.

01:30:15.860 Well, he lost his first tooth to rotten decay when he was 23 years old.

01:30:20.860 By the time he was president, he had one real tooth left.

01:30:23.920 And he lost it as president.

01:30:25.600 So our first president had no teeth, right?

01:30:27.900 I mean, kind of fun, nuanced things.

01:30:30.600 But then when you go further, things that have shaped the landscape in judicial structure, the precedent of Marbury v. Madison, judicial review, that you can come in and review and change things and –

01:30:44.900 Explain, pretend I don't know what that case is.

01:30:48.120 Okay, so Marbury v. Madison, the way it's generally understood, and this is one of the changes.

01:30:52.480 When we did some research and realized that the way it's being used today is a misrepresentation of what it was.

01:30:58.620 But the way it's taught is –

01:31:00.320 No, no, wait.

01:31:01.080 Tell me what it is first.

01:31:03.120 What case, what is it?

01:31:05.260 So Marbury v. Madison, it was a case where Marbury was initially serving under John Adams' presidency.

01:31:14.280 Jefferson becomes president.

01:31:15.860 And there's multiple judicial appointments, a last-minute midnight appointments.

01:31:20.920 Right.

01:31:21.160 And Marshall's the guy who is supposed to deliver all these appointments, get all these judges there, and he has 24 hours to do it.

01:31:29.380 And they don't all get delivered in time.

01:31:31.700 Jefferson is in office the next day, and apparently some of these appointments were left on a desk.

01:31:39.220 And Jefferson sees them and is like, yeah, we're not going to do that.

01:31:42.460 And so they are not given, even though Adams made the appointment, they were not delivered.

01:31:47.580 So are they actually judges or not?

01:31:49.960 Are they supposed to hold this position or not?

01:31:52.160 This is the case that goes before the Supreme Court.

01:31:55.280 Well, the Supreme Court then determines that, yeah, these guys really should have their positions because it was given an appointment.

01:32:02.860 Where it becomes fascinating is the Supreme Court justice that delivered the decision was the same guy who failed to deliver those things in the first place.

01:32:14.620 Oh, my gosh.

01:32:15.440 He was one of the appointments that he made the Supreme Court.

01:32:19.020 Wow.

01:32:19.460 When the case gets to the Supreme Court, he's the one.

01:32:21.160 So instead of recanting and saying, like, I shouldn't be here, well, then it gets even deeper, and there's even more details.

01:32:26.860 So what happens is this is really the first time you see pure departisanship among the founding fathers because John Adams is a hardcore Federalist.

01:32:35.720 Thomas Jefferson is nonpartisan.

01:32:37.640 He doesn't think you ought to have a party.

01:32:38.860 He thinks you ought to have principles, but he's running against Adams, and Adams says, well, you're not a Federalist, so you're a bad guy.

01:32:45.320 So it's a really vicious, vicious, vicious campaign.

01:32:48.780 This is the campaign where Adams says, oh, your daughter's heads will be on a pike after Jefferson is elected.

01:32:58.060 Your children will be raped and murdered.

01:33:00.220 Oh, the sermons that were preached by each side against the other.

01:33:03.420 We get sermons that it's just unbelievable.

01:33:05.300 And to clarify, it wasn't Adams saying that, but it was people on Adams' side that were saying that.

01:33:09.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

01:33:10.280 And Jefferson went back and said that Adams was a hermaphrodite figure, having neither the firmness of a man or the, what was it, the wisdom of a woman, something like that.

01:33:26.540 Yeah, that's right.

01:33:27.140 And so what happens with this thing is this is where this actually led to a constitutional amendment because it was back then that when you got elected president, it was four months until the next president took office.

01:33:38.120 So you've got a four-month lame duck period.

01:33:41.040 And in that four months, John Adams, and he's got a Federalist Congress in the House and Senate, he said, all right, let's do everything we can to put laws in place that Jefferson can't change.

01:33:50.340 And so for four months, they're legislating like crazy.

01:33:52.720 And that's where the Marbury Madison comes from is because what happens is Jefferson is a, he is a nonpartisan guy.

01:34:00.100 And he thinks the courts ought to be just read the Constitution.

01:34:03.140 And Adams is more, no, it needs to be the Federalist view of the Constitution.

01:34:06.660 That's amazing.

01:34:07.140 And so Adams comes up with 58 judgeships.

01:34:11.100 And the Congress created 58 new judgeships so he could stack the courts with his guys.

01:34:16.040 And then when Jefferson gets in, he's going to have these 58 new judges.

01:34:19.720 So he gives all, they get the judicial commissions.

01:34:22.680 It's called signed, sealed, and delivered.

01:34:24.180 They make the commission.

01:34:25.280 Then John Adams signs it.

01:34:26.620 Then they put the seal of the United States on it.

01:34:28.440 And the Secretary of State delivers that to the judge.

01:34:31.280 And that's signed, sealed, and delivered.

01:34:32.580 That's where the phrase comes from.

01:34:33.620 So he did that for all these things, except, as Tim pointed out, your Secretary of State was John Marshall.

01:34:39.860 John Marshall.

01:34:40.320 And what Adams does, he says, well, to really reinforce the Supreme Court, I'm going to put my Secretary of State as Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.

01:34:48.040 So he points Marshall to be the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

01:34:50.640 Holy cow.

01:34:51.280 This is what they're doing.

01:34:52.660 The left does now.

01:34:54.160 Exactly.

01:34:54.420 But what the argument is today is that, well, you're supposed to have judicial review.

01:34:58.640 That the Supreme Court can look, and they can't overturn things.

01:35:02.080 And from the very beginning, this was wrong.

01:35:04.940 And John Marshall shouldn't have been a part of this case to begin with, because it was, he was the one supposed to deliver them as Secretary of State.

01:35:11.220 He did not.

01:35:12.200 So there's so many things about this.

01:35:13.820 But the way it was.

01:35:14.560 So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:35:15.980 This is where judicial review comes?

01:35:17.300 This is where it comes from.

01:35:18.360 And this, it's on such a flawed historical basis.

01:35:20.700 This is, and I'll tell you, what's really interesting, too, is if you'll look at judicial review, the right of the Supreme Court to review legislative actions and strike them down, that's what's taught in every law book today.

01:35:31.380 You're not going to find that taught in the 1800s or the 1700s.

01:35:35.100 That's a 20th century thing that progressives picked up.

01:35:38.000 And so what happened.

01:35:38.900 So wait, wait, wait.

01:35:39.500 It didn't change things at the time.

01:35:41.500 No.

01:35:42.140 It was brought up by the progressives later.

01:35:44.960 Later.

01:35:45.380 That's the example of how you should do it.

01:35:47.040 It's very similar to when the progressives brought up Jefferson's phrase separation of church and state and used it right in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s to remove religion.

01:35:57.600 When if you go back and read Jefferson's letter, he's not talking about removing religion.

01:36:01.780 He's talking about protecting religion from the government.

01:36:04.840 But this is what progressives did.

01:36:06.820 And in the midst of this, what's also contrary to the way it's understood today is that, well, Jefferson didn't deliver any of those.

01:36:13.320 No, Jefferson actually took what was left, and he actually reviewed and said, you know, some of these people actually make sense to be judges.

01:36:19.060 But then there were some.

01:36:19.860 He's like, we don't need, like, dozens of judges in this one little area.

01:36:24.680 They had more than 20 judges just in Washington, D.C. alone, and that's a brand new city.

01:36:28.860 Why do you need 20 judges?

01:36:29.920 Because you can do what they're doing today.

01:36:33.180 That's right.

01:36:33.760 But literally, he says, we don't need all these judges.

01:36:35.540 So he made a very practical, pragmatic decision and said, we're not going to give all these out.

01:36:40.180 But Marbury was one of the guys who didn't get the appointment.

01:36:42.640 So it goes to Supreme Court.

01:36:44.320 John Marshall's like, yeah, that really should have been delivered to you.

01:36:47.620 And it's a shame it wasn't.

01:36:48.980 We're going to uphold this position.

01:36:50.160 Well, he was the one that was supposed to deliver it.

01:36:52.380 Nonetheless, these are things as we said.

01:36:54.540 And right.

01:36:55.120 I mean, I understand right now we're getting into the weeds of some of these stories that for history, people is fun.

01:36:59.740 That's not what the majority of the book is about.

01:37:02.300 Our premise with the book is that the majority of people would know the names of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, right?

01:37:11.240 Maybe even an Andrew Jackson.

01:37:12.440 We know those names.

01:37:13.720 But if we were to ask people, can you tell me a story of James Madison?

01:37:16.180 And they might say, well, he wrote the Constitution.

01:37:18.720 And we'd say, well, that's a fact regarding that's not a story about him.

01:37:22.140 We don't know their stories anymore.

01:37:23.540 And because we don't know their stories, we don't know the examples.

01:37:26.640 We don't know the lessons, the precedent.

01:37:29.000 Even all we know are the weeds.

01:37:30.520 Right.

01:37:30.920 That's right.

01:37:31.440 And so often what we know is not actually correct about them.

01:37:36.540 But so let me ask you, what did you learn?

01:37:39.080 Oh, geez, time is flying.

01:37:40.320 I got to take a break.

01:37:41.360 Let me pose this to you first and then you can answer when we come back.

01:37:44.760 What did you learn about John Adams?

01:37:46.900 Because John Adams is the first guy that puts in the Sedition Act where, you know, you print something that is against the government.

01:37:57.380 You can go to jail.

01:37:58.380 You can go to jail.

01:37:59.540 So unconstitutional.

01:38:01.540 So un-American.

01:38:03.760 What happened to him?

01:38:05.560 What did you find?

01:38:06.340 Is he a good guy or a bad guy?

01:38:07.900 Because I can make a case he's a really good guy.

01:38:11.340 But then there's these things right after.

01:38:13.580 You're like, what?

01:38:14.200 What happened to him?

01:38:16.620 I can't wait to hear your answer if you have one.

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01:39:37.480 You know, when it comes to Jefferson, they've always said, I mean, there was even a book called The American Sphinx.

01:39:52.640 He's hard to understand.

01:39:54.520 With the research that we've done, looking at the first draft of the Declaration of Independence, he's not that hard to understand.

01:40:01.440 He's not at all.

01:40:02.220 He's not a sphinx.

01:40:03.860 The one that's become a sphinx for me is John Adams.

01:40:07.920 John Adams was part of the committee.

01:40:09.720 He ran the committee, if I'm not mistaken, to draft the Declaration of Independence.

01:40:15.340 He is he's a fighter.

01:40:17.760 He goes and he, you know, make sure that the the the English are represented in court.

01:40:25.760 He destroys his career pretty much for for a while.

01:40:30.780 He he just always strikes me as a good guy.

01:40:33.260 Then he gets into office and I'm like, what are you doing?

01:40:35.900 John Adams was absolutely superb on broad principles and and and really on key leaders.

01:40:43.160 He's the guy who says George Washington's got to be our commander in chief when nobody wanted Washington.

01:40:47.240 He's the guy who said Jefferson's got to write the declaration when he barely knew Jeff.

01:40:50.900 He was really good on broad principles.

01:40:52.960 Where he falls apart is when it gets into policies and policymaking.

01:40:57.360 His principles are so sound, but he doesn't translate them because he carries personalities with him.

01:41:02.960 So he gets ticked to Jefferson.

01:41:04.200 Now he's going to retaliate.

01:41:06.060 One of the really good things about him that I liked is he was humble enough to really go back and reconcile with Jefferson late in life after they had been political enemies.

01:41:16.640 And good friends, good friends, man.

01:41:18.760 So he is really good on broad principles and on seeing the right pieces.

01:41:23.460 He just doesn't put them together or well.

01:41:25.300 So he's a bad executive.

01:41:26.700 He's a bad executive.

01:41:27.580 Yeah.

01:41:27.760 And I would go further, too, is in doing the research, some of the context that comes out is every president oversaw a war to some extent.

01:41:36.600 Right. So part of why Jefferson and Adams have a falling out under Washington's administration is because England and France are back to war and right.

01:41:46.060 Half Washington's administration is team France and half is like, no, no, no, we're team England.

01:41:51.460 And so they have a falling out because obviously practical arguments.

01:41:54.780 We don't become a nation if France isn't our ally.

01:41:56.900 If their Navy doesn't come, we don't win the American Revolution.

01:41:59.880 But we've now been reconciled to England for 20 years and they're our number one trade partner in all these things.

01:42:04.740 So they have this falling out.

01:42:06.380 Well, France is trying just a second.

01:42:08.760 This is the time when Jefferson and Thomas Paine.

01:42:13.680 Go to Washington right at the end of his term.

01:42:16.340 Right.

01:42:16.640 Yes.

01:42:16.940 Say we got to support France.

01:42:18.620 Middle second term.

01:42:19.600 Yeah.

01:42:19.920 And so Jeff.

01:42:20.900 So Adams was on Washington's side saying, no, no, no, you don't understand.

01:42:24.980 It's a different revolution.

01:42:26.080 All the Federalists, man, the Federalists were hardcore pro Great Britain.

01:42:30.320 I mean, when the War of 1812 breaks out later, they oppose the War of 1812 because it's against Great Britain.

01:42:36.700 But wait, Great Britain's taking your ships or impressing your guys or blowing you out of the water.

01:42:40.220 But they're so loyal to Great Britain at all costs.

01:42:43.220 We'll stand with Great Britain.

01:42:44.400 And that's where Adams was.

01:42:45.540 He was overly loyal to Great Britain at a time when Great Britain was attacking us and taking our sailors.

01:42:50.480 Well, and to go further, it wasn't just Great Britain that was attacking us and taking sailors.

01:42:54.180 France sent some of their naval vessels and they were impressing Americans.

01:42:57.760 They were attacking American ships.

01:42:59.240 So even part of what leads Adams to do this Alienist Edition Act is that France has actually sent people to America to recruit Americans to join them.

01:43:08.480 They're impressing Americans.

01:43:09.360 And so Adams is like, we're stopping this right now.

01:43:11.860 So it wasn't the idea of necessarily silencing American voices as it was silencing the French people in America.

01:43:18.660 But the reason I say it is you can.

01:43:20.340 That's what Wilson did with Germans.

01:43:22.240 And you saw where that went.

01:43:23.680 Right.

01:43:24.100 But for Adams, I think some of his motivation was very good.

01:43:29.340 Yeah.

01:43:29.820 But the way it played out became very, very bad in some areas.

01:43:34.620 And we kind of dive through this in the book, giving context.

01:43:37.360 And it's not to justify him, but you see where he's coming from.

01:43:40.840 And it's a little bit like when FDR, and this is not quite the same, but FDR doesn't even turn into the Japanese.

01:43:45.620 And we're like, that's totally evil.

01:43:47.300 But I understand if you're in FDR's position, you're like, what options do we have?

01:43:50.820 We know there's Japanese spies here.

01:43:52.280 We don't know who they are.

01:43:53.020 We don't know where they are.

01:43:53.720 Listen to the guy you sent out to find if there were, if it was a widespread thing who came back and said no.

01:44:00.560 And then it was ordered to start them and immediately quit.

01:44:03.540 I mean, he built them.

01:44:04.360 And then immediately quits, and I don't want anything to do with this.

01:44:07.180 That's right.

01:44:07.420 Yeah.

01:44:07.840 And that's where Adams is really good on the broad things.

01:44:11.020 He really got the broad things right.

01:44:12.460 When it came to putting them into policy and applying them, he messed up pretty often.

01:44:16.560 I think that's the way I would be as president.

01:44:18.480 I'm pretty good at the broad things, but I would be horrible as a president.

01:44:22.540 I would be horrible as a president.

01:44:24.860 You know?

01:44:26.220 Everybody has their own skill.

01:44:28.860 And to recognize it, which I think you're saying that Adams did at the end is great.

01:44:33.520 Adams is kind of an indispensable man.

01:44:35.940 You know, we call Washington that.

01:44:37.560 But without Adams, you don't get the results that we got in the revolution because he helped put the right people.

01:44:42.100 You know, look at how we look at Elon Musk now.

01:44:46.100 And I'm not saying politically.

01:44:47.540 I'm still out.

01:44:48.840 I don't have any idea where he is.

01:44:52.060 However, it was those kinds of brains that there were multiple versions of an Elon Musk back then.

01:45:00.300 This never happened before.

01:45:02.320 Hopefully it would happen again, but we'll see.

01:45:05.380 Okay.

01:45:06.060 Maybe we're too far in the weeds.

01:45:07.720 I mean, it's a geek fest when we start talking history and the American Revolution.

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01:46:57.060 I want to tell you about two books that you must have, and you have to have a hard copy.

01:47:02.320 I told you earlier, one of them is the 5,000-year leap.

01:47:05.920 Let me give you the other two.

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01:47:22.800 These are books that everyone should own because this is being erased in real time.

01:47:32.400 Please.

01:47:33.100 They do all of their research on original documents, and from the people of the time, they're not going in and going,

01:47:40.940 well, you know, I believe what he was really saying.

01:47:44.300 Take it from them and take it from the people that actually witnessed things.

01:47:49.740 So let me ask you a couple of things.

01:47:52.140 I have looked for bad things on Washington just because, I mean, he was so seemingly perfect and such an ideal man.

01:48:02.880 Does he stand up after the scrutiny of really looking into the first presidents?

01:48:07.860 Do you think he stands up?

01:48:08.740 Absolutely, especially comparatively, right, to the other presidents.

01:48:13.300 He set the tone and the example, and the example he set put America on the trajectory for success like nobody could have done.

01:48:22.080 As you mentioned, looking at him for flaws and errors, obviously, we come from a position, right, nobody's perfect.

01:48:29.380 Yeah.

01:48:29.640 As people of faith, we believe that Jesus came because we're not perfect.

01:48:32.560 With that being said, was he the perfect man for the job unquestionably?

01:48:38.620 Did he do things nobody else could have done?

01:48:40.360 Of course.

01:48:41.660 And he reminds me a little bit in the Bible, there's four Gospels, the Gospel of John.

01:48:47.820 John finishes the Gospel by saying that were we to include everything Jesus did, there's not enough books, right?

01:48:54.860 There's not enough places in the world.

01:48:56.980 That's kind of how you feel about Washington.

01:48:58.200 The more you research and study him, you're like, this guy.

01:49:01.160 You found that he made mistakes, but you didn't find any, like, nothing.

01:49:05.020 He's amazing.

01:49:05.900 It is amazing.

01:49:07.060 And the other one, John Quincy Adams was a lot like that.

01:49:10.040 I know everybody's got good, bad, ugly about him.

01:49:13.220 John Quincy Adams was another that was amazing for the lack of mistakes and the lack of really bad decisions that he made.

01:49:19.760 It's just not there.

01:49:20.440 His opponents were really rough, like Andrew Jackson.

01:49:22.540 But I was really surprised at both Washington and John Quincy Adams, how clean their administrations were, how well they unified people or tried to.

01:49:32.960 I mean, they were principle-driven guys.

01:49:34.200 Yeah, because we were talking about the divide, you know, with Jefferson and Adams.

01:49:39.260 Is that, in the first seven presidents, is that the most divided?

01:49:44.820 Is there a lesson here for us on division and coming back together?

01:49:50.380 Did you learn anything from any of these guys?

01:49:52.620 Well, I think it makes a lot more sense why Washington and his farewell address gave some of the advice he gave.

01:49:58.420 Yes.

01:49:58.800 It wasn't just open-ended advice.

01:50:01.160 He's literally watching his own cabinet, right?

01:50:04.020 The people he's mentored, he's worked with his friends, his allies, he's watched them fall apart.

01:50:08.640 So when he says, focus on principle more than party, right?

01:50:12.400 Don't be so distracted with foreign entanglements.

01:50:16.180 Focus on us more.

01:50:17.680 He's not necessarily speaking to the ages.

01:50:21.320 No.

01:50:21.660 He's speaking right then.

01:50:23.700 Directly to the issues.

01:50:25.840 Shows man never changes.

01:50:27.160 No.

01:50:27.620 And because man doesn't change, he is speaking to the ages.

01:50:30.620 And it's interesting that when you get to the War of 1812, I would say the really good presidents that I saw, Washington, absolutely.

01:50:39.220 Jefferson was remarkable.

01:50:40.740 Madison had a tough hand dealt with him with the War of 1812.

01:50:44.020 And that War of 1812 was a very dividing war in America.

01:50:46.900 Yeah, because you had the, like you said, some of them were very, very pro-English.

01:50:50.600 They were, pro-England, pro-French, and so it's a very divided country.

01:50:54.900 So Monroe comes in as the president after Madison, after the war.

01:50:58.180 And the war was so bad that New England threatened to secede from the United States if we declared war against Great Britain.

01:51:04.420 That's how pro-Great Britain they were.

01:51:05.920 Wow.

01:51:06.220 So they had secession conventions in the north.

01:51:08.840 If you declare war against Great Britain, we're leaving the United States.

01:51:11.800 That's crazy.

01:51:12.760 I never knew that.

01:51:14.040 No, that's how bad it was.

01:51:15.460 So here comes Monroe in.

01:51:17.140 How do you unify a nation that is all split?

01:51:20.220 Monroe, to his credit, and I don't agree with all of his policies, but to his credit, he said, we've got to have a unified America.

01:51:25.860 We've got to remember our principles.

01:51:27.000 We've got to remember what we fought for.

01:51:28.980 So as president, for the next three years, he doesn't stay in Washington, D.C., doing legislation.

01:51:33.560 He gets in a carriage, and he goes place to place, city to city, across the United States.

01:51:37.820 He puts back on his own revolution uniform from when he's a soldier in the revolution.

01:51:42.140 He's just showing off I'm not fat.

01:51:45.020 He puts his hair in the ponytail.

01:51:47.940 He powders his hair.

01:51:48.880 And he goes and meets with all the veterans from the World War.

01:51:52.700 He meets with the veterans from the Revolution and from the War of 1812.

01:51:56.180 Guys, remember what we fought for.

01:51:57.560 Remember what America's all about.

01:51:59.260 And he actually looked up his greatest political opponents, those who were loud of skin.

01:52:03.460 He went and met with them and sat down and had meals with them.

01:52:07.220 And it gets to where that people really—

01:52:09.560 Wouldn't that be refreshing?

01:52:10.200 Wouldn't that be something?

01:52:10.960 And so the newspapers in Boston, which is where they hated them most, they said,

01:52:14.980 this is the era of good feelings.

01:52:16.400 And all the parties went away because he kept reminding the principles.

01:52:19.540 So how did the people react?

01:52:20.580 Like right now, if you had Donald Trump go—

01:52:23.460 I mean, well, he introduced Lindsey Graham the other day, who I don't like.

01:52:27.160 I'm not a fan of—

01:52:27.680 No.

01:52:27.820 But that was not a pleasant reaction.

01:52:31.340 If you had somebody like Donald Trump going and have dinner with, I don't know, whomever, and was nice and open, and they said, oh, we had a wonderful—half the country, maybe all the country, just split on different sides, would say, this is horrible.

01:52:49.560 But see, this is what Madison did for several years.

01:52:52.080 This is what all the news reports are for several years.

01:52:54.220 He's traveling city to city to city.

01:52:56.040 All the local papers are just meeting with his opponents.

01:52:58.200 He's sitting down and talking.

01:52:59.480 And so I don't think you can get it done in one meeting.

01:53:01.440 Trump can't do it in one meeting.

01:53:02.440 It would be a sustained period of time where people have to start rethinking and say, well, I don't agree with him on that, but I guess he's—

01:53:08.800 What was the effect by the end?

01:53:10.700 It was a unified nation.

01:53:12.580 Now, eventually, they get into division again later because people just like to fight, I guess.

01:53:17.220 But he brought the nation together, and to his credit, that was remarkable.

01:53:21.260 And to say brought the nation together, largely the Federalist Party disappears.

01:53:25.240 So there's one major party.

01:53:26.540 There's fractions inside the party because inside that party, you have a John Quincy Adams and an Andrew Jackson who are on the same party.

01:53:32.780 Very different positions on a lot of major issues.

01:53:35.900 So they are very divided.

01:53:37.620 Obviously, you know, we're more team John Quincy Adams.

01:53:41.340 We think Andrew Jackson, right?

01:53:42.200 Pretty nasty in a lot of ways, who he was, what he did.

01:53:44.800 Yeah.

01:53:45.060 But specifically politically because Jackson was, by his own explanation, not suited or qualified to be president.

01:53:53.840 He said, I am suited and I'm qualified to lean men into battle where bad stuff, right?

01:53:59.760 Violence needs to happen.

01:54:00.920 He says, that's what I'm qualified for.

01:54:02.220 I'm not suited for this political stuff going on.

01:54:05.840 But Jackson's the guy that when he finally becomes president, he is the one who, the adage that to the winner go the spoils.

01:54:15.820 Up until Jackson, every single president before him had chosen people based on their qualifications, not based on their party or based on the personal connection they had.

01:54:27.020 So I gave – hang on just a second.

01:54:29.400 I gave – I said this years ago, David.

01:54:32.780 I said, I think that Jackson, at the end of that, if Washington could have come back a few years after, he would not say we were the same republic after Jackson.

01:54:45.500 Do you believe that true?

01:54:46.240 Yeah, what Jackson did was when he got in, as Tim said, and there's political cartoons of the day, to the victor, go the spoils.

01:54:52.920 Yeah.

01:54:53.220 That was Senator Macy of New York who said that he won.

01:54:56.020 He gets – and so he's the first guy to say, the people elected me on my agenda.

01:54:59.940 Instead of America, it's my agenda.

01:55:02.580 And he's the first one to take and start making the federal government respond to his political agenda.

01:55:07.900 And as Tim mentioned, in the first 40 years of the American Republic, they averaged dismissing two federal employees a year for the first – he dismissed more than 1,000 in his first year.

01:55:19.900 That's a lot of people back then.

01:55:21.920 Back then.

01:55:22.220 This is how much he did.

01:55:23.860 He came in and he said, everybody in the federal government is me, and they're going to have my viewpoint.

01:55:27.040 I don't care if you're confident or not, you're going to do it my way.

01:55:28.700 So what he does is down to the postmasters, the local postmasters, you've got to be a Jacksonian to be a postmaster.

01:55:35.540 And so what he does is he actually takes one of his cabinet guys and makes him the postmaster general.

01:55:41.740 He then makes the postmaster general a cabinet-level office up there with Secretary of State and Secretary of War and everything else.

01:55:48.580 And so then the postmaster general says, hey, any post office that doesn't like the message they're receiving, you don't have to deliver to the mail the message you're receiving.

01:55:57.120 Oh, my gosh.

01:55:57.740 So in the South, if you have abolition material going south, the postmasters won't deliver it.

01:56:03.080 So it's essentially like Biden going to the social media companies saying, hey, take down all the posts of these guys I disagree with.

01:56:09.140 I mean, Jackson literally weaponized every level of federal government for his personal agenda, not for what's good for the United States.

01:56:17.160 And that's pretty much what we have today is whoever gets elected, they elected my agenda.

01:56:20.800 So how do we then, how do we look at, because if Trump goes in, he has got to fire, I mean, I would be for this for anybody doing it.

01:56:32.680 You have got to shut these agencies down or pair them to the bone.

01:56:38.080 And they're going to say, you're just trying to force your agenda.

01:56:41.020 They're going to say he was doing or will be doing what Jackson did.

01:56:45.140 And what's the difference?

01:56:46.720 The difference is back in the time of the founding fathers, you're not looking at 2.3 million people that cannot be fired.

01:56:53.480 Everybody in the government could be fired at the time of Jackson.

01:56:55.740 You can't do that today.

01:56:57.040 And so, you know, Trump's looking at, well, I flip a coin.

01:56:59.400 If you're born an even year, you're fired.

01:57:00.940 If you're born an odd year, the way the union has run the government, you cannot recover it without a massive structural change under the civil service kind of laws.

01:57:09.820 Well, and I would go further, too, to say that it's not, when you have the state Supreme Court of Hawaii saying that it's time for us to, we're past the Constitution, right?

01:57:17.500 We're going to move past it, the ruling they did on guns just a couple weeks ago.

01:57:21.440 And we don't need the Constitution anymore.

01:57:23.200 Yeah, they said we've evolved past the Constitution.

01:57:25.160 That literally.

01:57:26.040 When you look at where we would be today, the challenge wouldn't be, well, we're going to fire all of the liberals or Democrats.

01:57:32.920 I don't know.

01:57:33.280 Like, there's a lot of Republicans who don't need to be there either.

01:57:36.160 And so it should be, well, who upholds the Constitution, right?

01:57:39.440 That's who stays.

01:57:40.020 I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican.

01:57:41.460 Do you believe in the Constitution?

01:57:42.500 Do you uphold the Constitution?

01:57:43.940 And so then it's not.

01:57:45.140 I think you'd lose about $2 million out of the $2.3 million.

01:57:47.740 You would.

01:57:47.920 Absolutely.

01:57:48.520 Because Democrats and Republicans, they never talk about the Constitution.

01:57:51.440 They never talk about the Constitution at all.

01:57:53.020 And that's really what the first six presidents did, was if you're constitutional, I don't care if you're in my party or not, you stay.

01:57:59.220 Jackson said, you've got to be in my party.

01:58:01.220 And that was the dividing line.

01:58:03.060 And the good news we highlight in the book, as we go through so many of these stories, give so many examples,

01:58:07.320 we see the decay in that time, and it's repeating itself over and over.

01:58:11.940 But we point out, if we would go back and follow some of George Washington's basic advice, we could restore so many things now.

01:58:18.600 So what brought us back from the brink of Jackson?

01:58:23.200 Did it take the Civil War?

01:58:24.460 It was a Civil War.

01:58:25.800 Yeah, it was the end of the Civil War, which will be part three, right?

01:58:28.040 That's the next book coming out.

01:58:29.420 We'll go through there, go through Reconstruction.

01:58:31.140 And really, I don't know if America's ever fully – we haven't.

01:58:35.720 Actually, we can't say.

01:58:36.520 We've never fully recovered from what Jackson started.

01:58:39.880 We've only corrected course slightly a little bit.

01:58:43.720 Pushed it back or, unfortunately, then used that same system to go our way.

01:58:49.860 Just somebody else in power.

01:58:50.880 I don't want either of those things.

01:58:53.440 Guys, thank you so much.

01:58:54.820 It's great to have you on.

01:58:56.520 Thank you.

01:58:56.820 I'd love to do another show with you because I learned so much, so maybe we'll have you back.

01:59:01.500 The book is out now.

01:59:02.920 You can get it.

01:59:04.020 The American Story, Building the Republic by David Barton and Tim Barton.

01:59:08.300 The American Story.

01:59:09.460 Now, this is volume two.

01:59:11.440 Volume one is the beginnings, which takes everything that happened before that led to the American Revolution or the founding of our republic.

01:59:21.200 And this takes it up to Jackson.

01:59:23.500 Listen, these are must-have books.

01:59:27.320 I wish these were acid-free papers so they would last forever.

01:59:32.300 But you have to have a hardbound copy of any important book.

01:59:37.320 And I can't think of any books that are more important to have other than the scriptures and the founding documents than these two if you want to understand American history and preserve it for your kids.

01:59:48.820 As always, guys, good to have you.

01:59:50.400 Thanks, bro.

01:59:51.020 Love you.

01:59:51.280 Bye-bye.

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