The Glenn Beck Program - 'Is it ＂Ripped＂ or ＂Torn＂？'

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00:00:12.600 Hope you had a great Independence Day.

00:00:14.940 How was yours, Stu?

00:00:16.100 Good?

00:00:17.040 Wonderful.

00:00:17.840 Thank you for asking.

00:00:18.840 Yes.

00:00:19.160 How was the fireworks display in your little town there?

00:00:21.960 Did it turn out well?

00:00:22.880 Yeah, it was good.

00:00:23.580 You guys went, right?

00:00:24.840 Wasn't that your plan on Wednesday?

00:00:26.760 We did go to...

00:00:27.860 Or Thursday.

00:00:27.880 Tuesday, you said you were going to watch it that night because it was an early one, right?

00:00:31.580 Yeah.

00:00:32.020 And it was great.

00:00:33.280 Very windy.

00:00:34.460 And so they did about half of it.

00:00:37.360 Really?

00:00:37.980 And apparently things started catching on fire and they stopped.

00:00:40.420 That was a deterrent?

00:00:41.980 Yeah, I know.

00:00:42.680 Really?

00:00:43.160 I mean, fire works.

00:00:44.180 It makes fire work.

00:00:45.660 That's the way I have always understood it.

00:00:47.500 But no.

00:00:48.520 So hopefully you had a great 4th of July.

00:00:51.820 We've got a lot of what this country was founded to do happening right now, including the nomination

00:00:59.740 of a Supreme Court justice right now.

00:01:02.020 And based on what everybody keeps saying, it seems to be Judge Kavanaugh that's the lead

00:01:08.940 contender.

00:01:09.680 Almost everybody thinks he's going to be the selection.

00:01:12.580 Yeah, I'm a little nervous.

00:01:14.060 And that seems to be the one that we should be most concerned about.

00:01:17.740 You know, it's arguable.

00:01:20.540 I mean, there are people, really smart people who are conservatives that believe he's going

00:01:25.620 to be great.

00:01:27.040 You know, he went through the same Federalist Society, you know, checks that all the other

00:01:32.740 justices went through, passed those with flying colors, which, again, is a great indication.

00:01:37.940 He worked for the Bush administration.

00:01:40.080 He worked for Ken Starr's team back in the day.

00:01:43.160 Right.

00:01:43.420 So he has, you know, a long history of being on the Republican side.

00:01:48.640 He is kind of talked about as a establishment Republican sort of figure.

00:01:55.240 Which seems problematic.

00:01:56.760 Seems problematic.

00:01:57.740 He has argued, however, in favor of expanded executive authority, which, you know, seems

00:02:05.300 to be something that any president would like.

00:02:09.640 Like, if you're, you know, unless you're, you know, massively motivated by the Constitution,

00:02:15.600 you're, you know, you're going to like having a little bit, a little bit more power.

00:02:19.060 Plus, he's written, as everybody on the news will tell you today, he's written extensively

00:02:24.320 about the problems that investigations can have for the country.

00:02:30.860 So investigations of the president, which obviously Trump is not a fan of, as no president would

00:02:36.180 be, but, I mean, with him talking out so outwardly about that, people are speculating that that

00:02:41.260 may influence his decision.

00:02:43.640 He, you know, I'm nervous about it.

00:02:45.260 He's, he wrote a Obamacare-related opinion that was not, not what I would want.

00:02:54.860 I mean, he basically approved the individual mandate.

00:02:57.400 So it was more Roberts-like?

00:02:59.360 More, very Roberts-like.

00:03:00.420 I mean, they, they're very similar.

00:03:02.240 People have talked about it as sort of laying out a pathway of where, where Roberts wound

00:03:06.480 up deciding that case.

00:03:08.200 Um, so that's there.

00:03:10.160 He's had a couple of those, uh, like that, a couple of decisions make you think, wait,

00:03:16.440 what, wait, what was he going for there?

00:03:19.360 But again, he's gone through all these checks.

00:03:22.460 He's not, he does not appear to be Ruth Bader Ginsburg, but will he be Kennedy?

00:03:27.740 Will he be Roberts?

00:03:28.760 That's not what I want.

00:03:29.500 Yeah.

00:03:30.320 I mean, there's a, there's a lot of space between what we're looking for and Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

00:03:36.420 You've noticed some space there?

00:03:37.520 Yeah.

00:03:37.620 There's some space there in between.

00:03:39.880 Um, and I, it, we just, everybody seems to, at least on the conservative side, uh, favor

00:03:46.960 Amy Barrett.

00:03:48.480 And for some reason we have to say her, uh, Coney name too, Amy Coney Barrett, which sounds

00:03:53.140 very bizarre.

00:03:53.920 I keep thinking Amy Coney Island every time I hear it.

00:03:57.760 But, uh, her last name is not Island.

00:04:01.140 It's not.

00:04:01.640 No.

00:04:02.080 And she's only been a judge for a year.

00:04:03.940 That seems to be one of the slams against her and a tougher confirmation battle.

00:04:09.560 Right.

00:04:09.920 She's what they're thinking.

00:04:10.840 And maybe Trump just doesn't want to go through it.

00:04:12.720 I don't know.

00:04:14.040 Maybe.

00:04:14.560 I think he likes this.

00:04:15.920 I think he likes this element of the presidency.

00:04:18.400 I would like it.

00:04:19.760 I mean, this is, it's all you, you get to do it.

00:04:22.080 It's your own decision.

00:04:23.300 Nobody can make you, you know, can stop you.

00:04:26.040 You can name your, I mean, obviously the Senate is the only thing you have to fight through,

00:04:30.140 you know, but you get to pick whoever it is that goes in front of the Senate.

00:04:32.600 You could pick, you know, a homeless person who's, you know, screaming, uh, a language they

00:04:38.000 invented last night and you can put them up there and it's all you.

00:04:41.320 And I kind of, you know, that's kind of a cool part of the presidency.

00:04:44.560 It's not quite as cool as the pardon.

00:04:46.660 Pardon's still number one.

00:04:47.780 I think pardon is still the coolest part of the presidency.

00:04:49.860 You can pardon anybody you want.

00:04:50.960 That's pretty cool.

00:04:51.780 That's pretty cool.

00:04:52.400 I would say too, you can also bomb anybody you want, but that's actually not the way

00:04:55.960 it's supposed to work.

00:04:57.440 Mm-hmm.

00:04:57.900 Uh, so that's not actually.

00:04:59.960 Just the way it kind of turned out.

00:05:00.740 It's kind of the way it works these days, uh, the last few presidents, uh, but, uh, true

00:05:06.200 that the pardon is, is a hundred percent like you get to do whatever you want, which

00:05:09.960 is really cool.

00:05:11.360 But the, so far Trump has obviously, uh, actually spoken to some of them.

00:05:16.500 Brett Kavanaugh, of course, uh, Raymond Kethledge.

00:05:19.660 Kethledge, I like, I think Kethledge might be a, would be a great pick if they went that

00:05:24.120 direction.

00:05:24.500 He's from, uh, uh, University of Michigan law school, I think.

00:05:28.040 Okay.

00:05:28.320 So outside of the Ivy league, which I think would be nice.

00:05:30.600 Mm-hmm.

00:05:30.980 Um, and he is, you know, they, they, they attempt to do these little breakdowns, uh, ideologically

00:05:38.100 and Kethledge is, uh, equal with Gorsuch, uh, in between Alito and, uh, Thomas.

00:05:47.340 So he's about as conservative.

00:05:50.140 The only person listed on here that is more conservative, uh, on the ideological scale,

00:05:55.160 and these things are imperfect, honestly, but still is Mike Lee and Clarence Thomas.

00:05:59.820 So one justice, one potential justice, and then everyone else there.

00:06:04.320 That's a good, there's a good list to be involved in.

00:06:06.980 Amorth Apar is also pretty, pretty well, uh, ranked on this.

00:06:11.480 If you're looking for a conservative justice, he's just to the left of Kethledge.

00:06:14.560 And the president has spoken to him.

00:06:16.360 Mm-hmm.

00:06:16.620 He's another one on the list.

00:06:17.660 Interviewed him, uh, Thomas Hardiman interviewed him.

00:06:20.260 Where does he stand on the?

00:06:21.320 Hardiman is the most to the left of all of them listed.

00:06:24.880 Yes.

00:06:25.320 So Hardiman is the one that was added as a, reportedly as a favor to Rick Santorum during

00:06:32.660 the campaign when he, uh, Trump wanted Santorum's endorsement and Santorum concerned with the

00:06:38.440 court, uh, said, look, you know, I want to see your list.

00:06:41.660 I want you to release the list and I want Hardiman to be on it.

00:06:45.320 And then if you do that and I like the list, I'll, I'll endorse you.

00:06:48.460 And that's supposedly, you know, reportedly, uh, what happened with, with how Hardiman got

00:06:53.860 on there.

00:06:54.120 However, he's also friends with, uh, Trump's sister, serves with Trump's sister on the

00:06:58.480 court and interviewed very well, apparently, like even better than Gorsuch and the fact

00:07:04.140 that they almost picked Hardiman over Gorsuch because he was so well prepared and, and did

00:07:08.440 such a good job in the presentation.

00:07:09.740 Yeah.

00:07:10.240 He's the one they say was runner up last time.

00:07:12.120 Yes.

00:07:12.820 Now has, has Trump also spoken to Mike Lee?

00:07:16.500 I think they've interviewed him, haven't they?

00:07:18.320 Yes.

00:07:18.740 I believe.

00:07:18.960 So at least they did that courtesy.

00:07:20.540 They threw a bone to conservatives and at least talked to him.

00:07:23.020 Yeah.

00:07:23.160 Yeah.

00:07:23.220 The president spoke by phone with Mike Lee on Monday.

00:07:27.420 He's the only lawmaker on Trump's list.

00:07:29.600 Also, uh, Brett Kavanaugh, we discussed Raymond Catholic, Amorth Apar, Amy Coney Barrett and

00:07:37.080 Thomas Hardiman.

00:07:38.040 That's the sixth that I, again, like Lee, I don't know if Lee's really being considered

00:07:42.600 or not.

00:07:43.100 I mean, it may very well be.

00:07:44.680 Probably not.

00:07:45.440 Uh, that he's not.

00:07:46.540 However, I'm glad they made the phone call.

00:07:48.640 Uh, you know, hopefully, hopefully he is the guy because if Mike Lee gets in there, you

00:07:54.440 know, you're getting someone really strong.

00:07:56.120 Yes.

00:07:56.440 And you know, someone who has a real record, you know, it's interesting.

00:07:58.960 One of the stories I think was from the New York times talking about these justices and

00:08:03.180 what people think about them and kind of laid it out the way we just did, which was, you

00:08:07.000 know, you have a, uh, Kavanaugh who is Kavanaugh and Barrett being the top two Kavanaugh being

00:08:12.480 the one from Bush administration, executive power, a couple of questionable decisions on

00:08:17.200 Obamacare and a couple of other things.

00:08:19.780 But, you know, he's very well respected in the legal community.

00:08:22.740 Amy Coney Barrett, not as well known, only been a judge for a year, was a law professor.

00:08:29.080 Uh, there's obviously the thing we talked about on, uh, Tuesday with her.

00:08:33.180 Her faith.

00:08:34.800 Um, and that became an issue with Dianne Feinstein who said that, you know, the dogma lives loudly

00:08:40.500 within you or whatever.

00:08:41.840 And the, the point people are talking about this as she probably isn't this high level

00:08:48.380 of a pick if it's not for that moment.

00:08:50.700 It's making Supreme court or, uh, conservatives and faith-based people saying like, I love the

00:08:56.580 fact that we have somebody who stood up and said, yeah, what are you talking about?

00:09:00.120 You know, like there's an exchange there and she's become a little bit of a, a billboard

00:09:04.640 right for the, for the movement.

00:09:06.700 Um, the one thing that they pointed out and most of it was written as you'd expect the

00:09:11.460 New York times to write a story like this, essentially saying, eh, you know, she's kind

00:09:15.100 of one of these religious wackos.

00:09:16.220 It's kind of how it feels.

00:09:17.040 But at one point when they're not discussing that, they said, the only thing she's really

00:09:20.540 written extensively on is making sure that we continue to accept precedence.

00:09:26.920 Uh, and that makes me super nervous.

00:09:29.100 That's yeah.

00:09:29.480 That's not a good thing.

00:09:30.460 Now, maybe the times is designing the story to make me nervous.

00:09:33.880 It's, it's not impossible.

00:09:35.200 They include that to dissuade religious conservatives, uh, from, you know, for seeing something in

00:09:40.320 there that maybe isn't there.

00:09:41.520 Yeah.

00:09:41.920 I don't have any, there's no reason to believe per se that she would be someone who would

00:09:46.220 think Roe versus Wade is a good idea.

00:09:48.920 But, you know, again, it's not about legal precedent.

00:09:52.620 It's about the constitution.

00:09:53.740 There's a precedent you need to look at.

00:09:55.140 And it was, you know, 1791 is about the time you need to kind of look back to.

00:09:58.880 And then you see how it's developed over time with amendments, not how it's developed over

00:10:02.460 time with case law.

00:10:03.680 Yeah.

00:10:03.820 You want someone who's an originalist, a textualist.

00:10:05.940 And that is the, that's the concern here is if you don't find that right person and it's

00:10:11.540 not easy and people, people make it seem like, Oh, what, what, well, look, you know, don't

00:10:16.680 screw it up.

00:10:17.640 I feel that way as well.

00:10:19.360 It's difficult though.

00:10:20.520 These guys get in the court and they get that same sort of un, you know, checked power.

00:10:26.080 You know, no one says they did something, you know, we can all talk about

00:10:28.800 them doing something wrong, but we can't do anything about it with the exception of

00:10:33.160 of course, impeaching, which is a pretty darn rare.

00:10:35.980 And it's happened once it's happened once in our entire history.

00:10:38.440 It wasn't Thomas Jefferson.

00:10:39.480 So it's been a few years.

00:10:40.900 We should point out it wasn't supposed to only happen once in the country's history.

00:10:44.100 It was, it was meant to be utilized.

00:10:45.460 As many times as necessary is how many times you should utilize it, but nobody even considers

00:10:49.780 it anymore.

00:10:50.480 I'll bet it hasn't even been talked about in the last 150 years.

00:10:54.780 In any serious way.

00:10:55.760 Yeah.

00:10:55.900 There was one candidate.

00:10:56.860 Was it Cruz?

00:10:57.420 It might've been Cruz that was talking about this as we need to bring this, but this is

00:11:00.540 part of our, you know, our system and it needs to be thought about more, more seriously.

00:11:05.680 Because if you get a justice that goes in there and it's terrible, I mean, we have three

00:11:08.980 justices who are falling asleep.

00:11:10.640 Yeah.

00:11:11.240 You know, I mean, I legitimately fallen asleep and just discount the U S constitution.

00:11:17.240 Right.

00:11:17.480 It's too old.

00:11:18.140 The clip that we played last week or earlier this week from Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who is also

00:11:23.240 the justice that falls asleep a lot, is, is to me, legitimately impeachment material for

00:11:30.200 a justice.

00:11:31.240 She's saying that we should look at other countries' constitutions.

00:11:35.300 You know, she, we shouldn't look at ours.

00:11:37.960 You know, she tried to explain this away later on, but with very little success.

00:11:41.580 The bottom line is she's there and no one does anything about it.

00:11:44.480 Right.

00:11:45.380 But that's not the way the system was supposed to work.

00:11:47.220 Again, it's not about making liberal decisions.

00:11:49.220 It's about someone outwardly advocating against our constitution.

00:11:53.220 You know, one of the people who's supposed to protect it.

00:11:54.980 Yeah.

00:11:55.920 Her really, her only job.

00:11:57.900 That's all, that's all she's supposed to do.

00:11:59.920 Yeah.

00:12:00.620 You should pay no attention to anybody else's constitution and your decisions.

00:12:06.280 Also yesterday at a parade, at a 4th of July parade, Senator Susan Collins said,

00:12:11.580 I think I've made it pretty clear if a nominee has demonstrated hostility to Roe v. Wade and

00:12:17.780 has said they're not going to abide by that longstanding precedent, that I could not support

00:12:24.240 that nominee.

00:12:25.880 So again, she's reinforced the fact that if you're pro-life, she's not going to vote for

00:12:31.040 you.

00:12:31.360 Well, they're all, again, they're supposed to all be in that, in that bandwagon, right?

00:12:38.660 Everybody who clears the Federalist Society, I mean, again, they're looking for the constitution.

00:12:43.340 It's not a Roe v. Wade test, but everybody, everybody that would pass the test the way

00:12:48.680 the Federalist Society believes it should be passed should be casting the vote the correct

00:12:53.520 way on Roe v. Wade.

00:12:54.820 I think if you want to read that the best way possible, the best way possible is Susan Collins

00:13:00.920 is, you know, pro-choice sort of light.

00:13:03.480 She's never been a huge activist for pro-choice things, per se, but she's voted that way, and

00:13:09.320 she's pro-choice.

00:13:11.260 Maybe she's saying, look, don't put up somebody who makes this hard for me.

00:13:16.040 You know what I mean?

00:13:16.760 For example, Mike Lee would make it hard for her because Mike Lee has spoken eloquently

00:13:23.380 about how horrible a decision Roe v. Wade is.

00:13:26.900 So is she just coming out and saying, look, don't put Mike Lee up there.

00:13:29.380 Don't put, you know, Bill Pryor up there, put up somebody who has not outwardly taken

00:13:35.360 large stances on this and make it so I can vote for them.

00:13:38.520 That's the best reading of what she says.

00:13:40.240 Yes.

00:13:40.520 I don't know that I subscribe to that theory.

00:13:43.300 I'm trying to be an optimist.

00:13:44.780 I think she's, she's essentially a Democrat.

00:13:47.680 She's a no vote automatic.

00:13:48.880 Yeah.

00:13:49.060 She's just a no on anybody that we would like.

00:13:53.040 And well, we know the list though.

00:13:54.960 I mean, if he's picking off that list, she has said there's people on the list.

00:13:57.460 Kavanaugh for her, I think she'd probably vote for Kavanaugh because he seems to be

00:14:02.360 the okay mainstream choice, the establishment Republican.

00:14:07.100 And that's what she is.

00:14:09.140 Although I don't know what makes anybody a Republican anymore because they don't, they

00:14:13.320 don't have any principles or values.

00:14:14.740 They just have an R after their name.

00:14:17.100 So this whole process is pretty difficult now.

00:14:19.840 So you do know what makes them a Republican.

00:14:21.360 You just said it.

00:14:22.040 The R after that.

00:14:23.000 You just did the whole mystery.

00:14:24.840 You solved it.

00:14:25.780 Thank you for noticing that.

00:14:26.980 That's amazing.

00:14:27.760 Done.

00:14:28.300 All right.

00:14:28.720 888-727-BECK.

00:14:35.520 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:40.220 888-727-BECK.

00:14:42.120 Found this article written by Vox a couple of years ago.

00:14:46.160 Was this 2015 on the 4th of July?

00:14:49.960 The headline is, three reasons the American Revolution was a mistake.

00:14:55.300 This July 4th.

00:14:58.620 Let's not mince words.

00:15:00.560 American independence in 1776 was a monumental mistake.

00:15:04.960 We should be mourning the fact that we left the United Kingdom, not cheering it.

00:15:09.000 Now, at this point, it crosses your mind of they're trying to make maybe some interesting observations about this era.

00:15:17.640 Yeah.

00:15:17.940 Maybe you could have gone about it a different way or made a few mistakes here and there.

00:15:22.320 And you're thinking maybe they're just trying to illustrate this in the most explosive way possible to get clicks, right?

00:15:29.400 Yeah.

00:15:29.680 Then you realize, you pretty quickly realize, no, they just hate America.

00:15:33.820 Yeah.

00:15:34.020 It's just not a fan.

00:15:35.080 Not fans of the revolution, of our founders, of any of it.

00:15:39.680 Legitimately don't like the country.

00:15:42.940 It's, who was it yesterday that had to delete their tweet?

00:15:46.280 Oh, it was Britt Hume.

00:15:47.800 He tweeted out that Democrats hate America, or at least that they don't love it.

00:15:55.060 Democratic Americans don't love America.

00:15:58.260 And, you know, then you read articles like this, and you got to think, oh, well, there is something to that.

00:16:04.300 Some of them really don't.

00:16:06.560 Some of them really don't.

00:16:07.320 And we just had that poll the other day of how many Americans are extremely proud to be American.

00:16:13.760 It was 32% of Democrats.

00:16:17.160 32%.

00:16:17.560 Wow, that's high.

00:16:18.540 Yeah, you might think, okay, that's, yeah.

00:16:20.140 It's a lot higher than I would have guessed.

00:16:22.500 74% of Republicans.

00:16:24.440 So, you think, well, Trump, you know, they're not proud because of Trump, but it was only 46% when Obama was in office.

00:16:34.640 And that does not surprise me.

00:16:36.320 Again, the entire philosophy was basically written around how America went the wrong direction at some point in our history.

00:16:45.280 Right.

00:16:45.900 And we've never been able to be progressive enough to get it back on track.

00:16:49.160 I mean, look at Barack Obama with the fundamental transformation of America.

00:16:52.400 How many times did we make the point that you don't fundamentally transform something you love?

00:16:56.880 Yeah.

00:16:57.380 Tell your wife, I really love you, honey, but I just really want to fundamentally transform you.

00:17:03.540 I just want you to be completely different in every way.

00:17:06.200 Right.

00:17:06.680 That's it.

00:17:06.980 I mean, whatever is at the base of your soul is wrong, and I just want to change that.

00:17:12.620 So, yeah, you don't, I mean, obviously, you don't love it if you want to fundamentally transform it.

00:17:17.180 But doesn't that make sense?

00:17:18.040 Right.

00:17:18.640 Like, you could say, let's say you have a relative that has a massive drug problem, right?

00:17:24.840 You might love them, but you want to fundamentally transform them, right?

00:17:28.620 But that's how serious they look at this.

00:17:30.520 But see, that's not even fundamental transformation.

00:17:32.440 That's just altering one flaw, one character flaw.

00:17:37.420 At the foundation, at the fundamental level, that really says something.

00:17:43.140 Yeah.

00:17:43.820 It's even more serious, I guess.

00:17:45.280 It's real serious.

00:17:47.840 Anyway, in the Vox article, he continues, of course, evaluating the wisdom of the American Revolution means dealing with counterfactuals.

00:17:55.080 As any historian would tell you, this is a messy business.

00:17:59.320 We obviously can't be entirely sure how America would have fared if it had stayed in the British Empire longer.

00:18:06.140 But I'm reasonably confident a world in which the revolution never happened would be a better one than the one we live in now for three main reasons.

00:18:13.840 Slavery would have been abolished earlier.

00:18:16.540 I don't see how you draw that conclusion at all.

00:18:19.940 Look at the first draft of the Declaration of Independence that we had at the Mercury Museum a couple weeks ago where Thomas Jefferson lays into the king for allowing slavery to continue and for stopping the legislative efforts in the United States to stop it.

00:18:38.900 Which was not the United States at that point.

00:18:40.800 Right.

00:18:41.200 But they were trying to stop it legislatively and the king kept blocking the efforts.

00:18:46.460 We'll deal with this a little bit more coming up here on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:18:49.760 I love how one of the major events that everybody looks forward to on the 4th of July now is the hot dog eating contest where people just jam hot dogs into their mouths for 10 minutes.

00:19:09.760 It's like a great way to celebrate our independence.

00:19:13.760 I think don't you I just see how many if you can jam 74 hot dogs into your gullet in the first 10 minutes of the competition that says America right there.

00:19:24.360 It's like it's like one of those, you know, it's like American flag with fireworks times an eagle plus the White House.

00:19:34.460 It's like it's just like every American thing jammed into one.

00:19:37.080 Yeah, it is.

00:19:38.400 It is physically revolting to watch.

00:19:41.580 I don't know how I don't know why people show up and watch that thing because it is it's nasty.

00:19:46.060 I can't even watch it on television when the highlights come on and it's not even just that eat like watching someone eat is something you don't want to do anyway.

00:19:52.840 That's not something I want to do.

00:19:55.100 In addition to that, they're eating these hot dogs really fast and there's drilling them all over the place.

00:20:00.260 But then that really is what gross bread in water wet bread is one of the worst things ever that has ever happened to humanity.

00:20:08.800 And you might say that's overstating it.

00:20:10.860 No, it's not.

00:20:11.580 They should ban dipping it in water.

00:20:13.420 Just see how many regular hot dogs like a person like a person eats hot dogs.

00:20:17.620 And obviously you're not going to get 74 down.

00:20:20.260 But, you know, there'd still be a substantial number if you have to have the competition.

00:20:25.220 Joey Chestnut is the guy who's won this 11 straight years now.

00:20:29.040 It used to be a Japanese guy who won it.

00:20:34.820 But now Joey Chestnut is apparently the state of the art in the eating world, in the competition eating world.

00:20:44.300 And he did break his record yesterday.

00:20:45.960 The record before yesterday was 73 sent last year, spent set last year.

00:20:50.720 And then he set a new one of 74 this year.

00:20:53.780 You have a little bit of a history with eating multiple hot dogs in one sitting.

00:20:58.080 I do, actually, yeah.

00:20:59.820 But you did it not for a competition.

00:21:02.660 No, I didn't because I'm a glutton.

00:21:06.800 And I really enjoyed the hot dogs.

00:21:09.940 Glenn and I were at an event.

00:21:12.840 It was the Harvard-Yale football game in New Haven, Connecticut one year.

00:21:18.460 And we had this big listener get-together.

00:21:22.200 And it was just awful weather.

00:21:23.660 I mean, it was sleeting.

00:21:25.520 It was cold.

00:21:26.800 It was kind of, you know, it was a rain-snow mix.

00:21:30.120 And it was just blowing sideways.

00:21:31.780 It was horrible.

00:21:32.460 So we had this tent set up.

00:21:33.960 Nobody came to the game.

00:21:35.100 Nobody showed up for the event.

00:21:36.260 And we had, like, 5,000 hot dogs ready for people because we thought it was going to, you know, be a nice day.

00:21:44.920 And everybody was going to have a good time and come enjoy it.

00:21:47.480 Oh, local radio.

00:21:48.820 That's fun.

00:21:49.360 So all I had to do was stand there.

00:21:51.760 We did cut-ins during the course of the day because it was a Saturday.

00:21:55.000 So it wasn't really doing our show.

00:21:56.380 But we were just doing the cut-ins.

00:21:57.680 Can I guess as what they sounded like?

00:21:59.180 Oh, it's amazing down here.

00:22:00.700 You've got to come down and check this out.

00:22:02.460 There are people everywhere.

00:22:03.260 We've got 5,000 hot dogs.

00:22:04.860 Free hot dogs for you when you come down and say hi to us.

00:22:09.500 Please, please come.

00:22:12.000 Somebody please come show up at this thing.

00:22:14.500 And nobody did.

00:22:15.740 So all there was to do, really, was eat hot dogs.

00:22:18.820 And they were darn good hot dogs.

00:22:20.840 And I ate 12 of them.

00:22:23.620 Not in 10 minutes, but over the course of the two-hour event, I put down 12 hot dogs.

00:22:30.700 And you were not trying to set a record.

00:22:33.740 No, I wasn't.

00:22:34.220 It's what you wanted to do.

00:22:35.620 Yes.

00:22:36.340 And you did not restrain yourself.

00:22:37.900 Not at all.

00:22:38.840 Left to your own devices, you will eat 12 hot dogs.

00:22:43.700 In my younger days, yes.

00:22:45.660 I don't think I could do that today.

00:22:47.920 In fact, I try to avoid hot dogs completely now.

00:22:50.500 But that was a very proud moment for me.

00:22:54.000 And I think my family is really proud of that, too.

00:22:56.180 And so you're basically thanking me for bringing it up.

00:22:58.360 Yes, thank you.

00:22:59.280 Thank you.

00:22:59.840 You're welcome.

00:23:00.140 So we were talking about this Vox article, because I guess they did this three years ago.

00:23:05.160 But it's amazing to me that on the 4th of July, this is what you publish.

00:23:11.600 Three reasons the American Revolution was a mistake.

00:23:15.620 Okay.

00:23:15.980 And those reasons are slavery would have been abolished earlier.

00:23:22.280 Which I don't know.

00:23:23.460 Where do you get that?

00:23:25.240 Why would you even assume that?

00:23:26.860 The slave trade in England went on for 300 years.

00:23:31.600 It went on for 89 here.

00:23:33.960 I mean, people forget there was a time before the colonists revolted.

00:23:40.200 And it was all filled with slavery during that whole time, too.

00:23:45.320 And they're the ones who instituted it here.

00:23:48.260 Right.

00:23:48.900 And they've tried to force it when the Americans tried to, when the founders tried to overcome it legislatively.

00:23:57.980 It was blocked by the king.

00:23:59.000 And you've said many times, and I can't remember the exact date, but you're talking about when the actual slave trade ended.

00:24:06.560 It was before 1807.

00:24:07.620 So it was not long.

00:24:09.580 Right.

00:24:09.760 I mean, again.

00:24:10.820 We actually enacted it, but it didn't take effect until the following year.

00:24:16.500 But we enacted it before England did.

00:24:19.260 So we abolished our slave trade in 1807 shortly before, like a few months before England stopped their slave trade, too.

00:24:27.660 And then they abolished slavery in 1834, and it took us until 1865 and 600,000 deaths in order to stop it.

00:24:36.240 But it was a tough, because it was so ingrained in the colonies, it was a tough thing to extract ourselves from.

00:24:46.940 And, yeah, that took some time.

00:24:48.760 And you see that, again, I keep coming back to the same document, but it's a struggle where Thomas Jefferson's out there saying, like, this is the worst thing the king has ever done.

00:24:56.740 And he goes on for paragraph after paragraph after paragraph, bashing the king for slavery.

00:25:01.460 And then in the end, the final document, that gets removed because of states, I think it was Georgia and South Carolina specifically, that decided they didn't want it in there.

00:25:12.900 And we know how bad that was.

00:25:14.280 But, I mean, there was a huge passion to remove slavery.

00:25:17.340 It really is one of our founding concepts.

00:25:20.520 It was one of the things that actually motivated the founders to do this.

00:25:23.740 And you'll get the pushback from, well, if Thomas Jefferson was such an abolitionist, why did he own slaves?

00:25:28.640 Well, he couldn't stop owning slaves because it was illegal.

00:25:32.740 He couldn't set them free.

00:25:34.080 And I think, I really believe he would have if he could have.

00:25:37.640 But you could not free your slaves because, first of all, in that day and age, they thought, well, what are they going to do?

00:25:42.900 Where are they going to go?

00:25:45.760 You didn't allow them education.

00:25:47.960 You didn't really have anything set up for them.

00:25:50.540 And so, in Virginia, it was illegal.

00:25:55.260 Even upon your death, you couldn't free your slaves, especially if you were in debt, which he was when he died in 1826.

00:26:04.480 So, there's a lot of explanations for the Thomas Jefferson thing, but he was definitely against slavery and wrote really passionately about it.

00:26:14.100 Really glad you guys found that section because it's pretty amazing and very telling.

00:26:18.800 So, first of all, they believe in Vox that slavery would have been abolished earlier.

00:26:23.900 American Indians would have faced rampant persecution, but not the outright ethnic cleansing Andrew Jackson and other American leaders perpetrated.

00:26:32.760 And America would have a parliamentary system of government that makes policymaking easier and lessens the risk of democratic collapse.

00:26:41.860 Oh, you got to read.

00:26:45.560 There's the, when you go into the parliamentary democracy thing, which is something that, you know, a lot of people on the left say they want.

00:26:53.900 And as opposed to our presidential based system.

00:26:58.020 Yeah.

00:26:58.260 This is great.

00:26:59.880 In the U.S., activists wanting to put a price on carbon emissions spent years trying to put together a coalition to make it happen.

00:27:08.100 Mobilizing sympathetic businesses and philanthropists and attempting to make a bipartisan coalition.

00:27:13.480 And they still failed to pass cap and trade.

00:27:18.040 After millions of man hours.

00:27:20.920 In the U.K., the conservative government decided it wanted a carbon tax.

00:27:25.020 So, there was a carbon tax.

00:27:26.480 Wow, that sounds like a lot better.

00:27:29.640 Right.

00:27:29.920 So, the government could just throw a lot of really big taxes on everyone whenever they want.

00:27:35.000 Just because they want to.

00:27:36.180 Wow.

00:27:36.860 There's not even a system to be able to stop it.

00:27:38.960 Right.

00:27:40.220 I love that.

00:27:41.300 It's absolutely an argument for the system we have.

00:27:44.040 Of course.

00:27:44.420 Listen, passing big necessary legislation.

00:27:47.560 In this case, legislation that's literally necessary to save the planet.

00:27:52.600 Cap and trade is not going to save, even under the most feverish of Al Gore dreams, a cap and trade does not save the planet.

00:28:02.380 No.

00:28:02.960 It's not what it does at all.

00:28:04.840 I mean, it's just, it established, the only, it's just a carbon tax with a fake market mechanism in there to put a price on it.

00:28:14.080 That's it.

00:28:15.060 It's not a, it would not at all.

00:28:17.740 You know, it's just like, you know, the Oklahoma City Thunder are going to go into the luxury tax this year for, in the NBA and spend up to, it looks like $300 million on their salaries this year.

00:28:31.340 Wow.

00:28:31.740 Because every dollar you go over a certain amount, it's like $450 million in taxes.

00:28:36.580 Right?

00:28:37.140 So, at some, it's going to stop a lot of people from going that way, but you can still, it's not going to save the world.

00:28:43.520 It's ridiculous.

00:28:44.880 You know, a tax like that can dissuade certain activities, but it's not going to save the world.

00:28:51.180 In fact, if you turned off the United States completely and we didn't do any, there's no more increases at all.

00:28:57.360 No carbon at all.

00:28:58.300 Forget even increasing it, turning all the cars off, all the power plants off, people stop exhaling, all of the things that create carbon dioxide.

00:29:07.040 Goes down to zero.

00:29:07.780 Goes down to zero.

00:29:09.660 You would only cut, you know, emissions globally by about 20%.

00:29:17.540 And then, even then, you'd have other countries like China and India would replace that within a decade.

00:29:24.880 That's if you turn everything off.

00:29:25.900 If you turn off the, just the transportation sector, you'd save about 4% of global emissions.

00:29:31.080 Most likely made up by increases in other nations in about two years.

00:29:35.160 So, think about that when you have a, someone telling you that you should take, you know, make sure to bike to work once a week.

00:29:44.300 When they give you these little helpful tips that can, that can help the planet.

00:29:49.140 Yeah.

00:29:49.340 They don't do anything.

00:29:50.980 That's just something, it's like a, it's like a psychiatrist tool to like create a habit so you support their larger policies.

00:29:58.180 Like, if you're at home and you're unplugging all of your appliances before you use them every day, you are much more likely because you've taken that physical step to walk in line with their actual policy goals.

00:30:11.340 And you're much more likely to give in to their demands of power that they don't have constitutional right to.

00:30:18.180 If you're at home, you know, sifting through garbage every day, you have a physical, a physical statement of loyalty to them.

00:30:29.120 That's what that's about.

00:30:30.100 It's got literally nothing to do with saving the planet.

00:30:33.200 It's about getting you in line.

00:30:35.520 And once you take those steps, well, you've, I've already gone to the point where I'm literally sifting through my own waste to try to, to try to please this planet, to please mother nature.

00:30:46.800 Well, of course I'm on board for cap and trade.

00:30:49.040 Of course I want the president to be able to just institute a carbon tax whenever they want.

00:30:53.340 Of course that's what I want.

00:30:54.380 That's exactly why we have the process we do, because it's supposed to be hard to get things like that, uh, through and, and to make them law.

00:31:03.060 It's supposed to be difficult.

00:31:04.840 There's got to be that process so that you don't have carbon taxes just show up and ruin the economy almost overnight.

00:31:14.260 I mean, can you imagine had we done all the carbon taxing that Al Gore and the rest wanted to do, what situation our energy sector would be in right now?

00:31:21.940 Oh my gosh.

00:31:22.920 It'd be horrific.

00:31:23.520 Like, uh, our energy prices would necessarily skyrocket.

00:31:28.900 Seems like I heard that from somebody.

00:31:30.940 Oh, that's right.

00:31:31.740 I did.

00:31:32.160 You did.

00:31:32.660 Barack Obama.

00:31:33.100 Yeah.

00:31:33.740 Uh, who admitted that the things he wanted to do, like bankrupting coal would make the energy prices skyrocket.

00:31:40.660 Yeah.

00:31:41.320 And by the way, isn't this a good way to pass a law?

00:31:45.060 Like they had to, uh, get a bunch of people together, right?

00:31:48.860 They wanted to mobilize businesses, sympathetic businesses, put a coalition together.

00:31:53.520 Get philanthropists on board, attempt to make a bipartisan coalition, and they still fail

00:31:58.340 to pass cap and trade after millions of dollars in man hours.

00:32:01.180 Well, that's just you failing, right?

00:32:03.180 Like that's not, this isn't some magical thing lined up in the government.

00:32:07.120 You didn't get enough of those people together.

00:32:08.920 If you got, I don't know, let's say 50, 55% of people to believe it was a really important cause,

00:32:14.580 you would have been able to elect whoever you wanted and you would have been able to get it through.

00:32:17.760 So, the problem is people don't like your bill.

00:32:21.180 This is, you know, going back, cause this, as we've mentioned, this makes the rounds, I guess,

00:32:24.460 every, every year around July 4th, cause it's such a ridiculous article.

00:32:28.220 Again, the three reasons the American revolution was a mistake.

00:32:30.880 But if you look at that part of it, it's so, it reminds you of the Obama era.

00:32:35.960 It reminds you of that time where bipartisanship was just come to our side, believe what I

00:32:44.720 believe, or you're in the way.

00:32:46.380 And certainly Trump gets criticized for that now, but man, the people criticizing him forget

00:32:51.820 completely about those eight years.

00:32:53.860 Oh yeah.

00:32:54.360 They loved it then.

00:32:55.200 They loved it then.

00:32:56.700 And remember when Barack Obama would always be like, look, I'm willing to talk to any Republican

00:33:00.500 who will come over and, and, but I'm not going to talk to someone who's just going to get

00:33:03.660 in the way.

00:33:04.360 Well, they want the opposite thing.

00:33:07.880 Yeah.

00:33:08.440 Right.

00:33:09.160 Of course they're going to get in the way.

00:33:10.800 They want the opposite thing to happen.

00:33:12.440 The Yankees get in the way of the Red Sox trying to win.

00:33:15.360 And that's, that's their job.

00:33:17.000 And when you're making, when you're making the case for getting legislation done faster

00:33:22.360 and cleaner than we currently do it, wouldn't a King be even better because a monarch just

00:33:27.980 decides and that makes it.

00:33:29.400 So I just decree and declare that there will be carbon taxes and you're done.

00:33:36.020 Yeah.

00:33:36.160 They actually make the opposite argument.

00:33:37.240 They say our system is more likely to lead to a dictatorship.

00:33:40.160 Pathetic.

00:33:40.560 I mean, that's ludicrous.

00:33:42.460 888-727-BECK.

00:33:45.360 Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:33:48.700 888-727-BECK.

00:33:51.120 We were, Stu, you mentioned earlier that there was some kind of problem, potential problem

00:33:58.560 with Amy Coney Barrett's thoughts on precedent, that she's a big precedent person.

00:34:03.240 Yeah.

00:34:03.620 I mean, you know, the New York Times article writes this line.

00:34:06.360 She also said several times that as an appeals court judge, she would follow Supreme Court

00:34:10.680 precedent on abortion.

00:34:11.740 Now, I think that that means that as a lower court, you have to honor what the Supreme Court

00:34:15.820 says.

00:34:16.380 That doesn't necessarily mean how she's going to decide on the Supreme Court.

00:34:18.860 I can't imagine.

00:34:19.840 I mean, she's so highly praised by so many smart conservatives.

00:34:22.880 I'm sure that she, but you know, you get nervous.

00:34:25.620 I get nervous.

00:34:26.400 This is a big one, guys.

00:34:27.660 It's a big one.

00:34:28.140 Glenn Beck.

00:34:31.700 Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:34:32.820 888-727-BECK.

00:34:35.420 Hope you had a great 4th of July Independence Day.

00:34:39.180 Happy birthday to America.

00:34:41.840 242 years old yesterday.

00:34:44.660 Yeah.

00:34:45.080 Is there a problem?

00:34:45.480 Yeah.

00:34:45.680 You got an issue here?

00:34:46.740 I just don't like the way that you're all positive and celebratory.

00:34:51.660 Really?

00:34:52.260 Was there something wrong?

00:34:53.100 That's what we're going through.

00:34:54.360 What are we going through?

00:34:55.820 Well, first of all, what's going on at the border.

00:34:58.060 Okay.

00:34:58.540 Well, yes.

00:34:59.100 I don't know if you know this.

00:34:59.880 They're ripped.

00:35:00.500 Ripped and torn.

00:35:02.260 Ripped and torn.

00:35:02.660 Sometimes they're torn.

00:35:03.980 Sometimes they're ripped.

00:35:05.140 Sometimes they're ripped torn.

00:35:06.580 And once in a while.

00:35:07.880 But it's only those particular situations that occur at the border.

00:35:13.740 They're not carefully taken and placed nicely somewhere as this thing is being adjudicated.

00:35:22.420 That's not the case at all.

00:35:24.820 Please don't mock what's happening here, especially with the sacrifices people are making.

00:35:30.340 Oh, okay.

00:35:31.100 Who's making sacrifices now?

00:35:32.960 Well, celebrities.

00:35:34.380 Really?

00:35:34.880 Making big time sacrifices.

00:35:36.780 In fact, they're going on a hunger strike.

00:35:39.420 No way.

00:35:40.020 Yeah.

00:35:40.520 Like who?

00:35:41.220 Who's going on a celebrity hunger strike?

00:35:43.280 A celebrity hunger strike.

00:35:44.440 Don't act like you don't know about this.

00:35:45.860 I don't know about this.

00:35:47.260 This is a huge, huge deal.

00:35:50.680 Who are these celebrities that are hunger striking?

00:35:53.940 Alec Baldwin.

00:35:55.060 Oh, wow.

00:35:56.060 And Martin Sheen.

00:35:58.260 So right now, our top two celebrities, first of all.

00:36:01.580 Let's point that out.

00:36:02.740 Right.

00:36:03.380 Number one and number two.

00:36:04.180 No question.

00:36:04.800 I don't know what order you put them in, but we know they're number one and number two.

00:36:07.500 So Alec could last, what, six, eight months on a hunger strike?

00:36:14.040 Are you making a commentary on his appearance by any chance?

00:36:18.160 No.

00:36:18.660 No.

00:36:18.960 Okay.

00:36:19.360 That was just a guess that his constitution is such that he could last a while.

00:36:24.480 Because he cares so much about the border.

00:36:26.020 Right.

00:36:26.600 Got it.

00:36:27.140 Okay.

00:36:27.540 Right.

00:36:27.980 The hunger strike is incredibly dramatic.

00:36:32.300 This has been organized by the Kennedy family and the RFK Human Rights Center.

00:36:37.320 And are they striking about the border?

00:36:41.320 They are striking about the border.

00:36:42.740 And people being rip-torn?

00:36:44.100 Rip-torned from people, from their parents.

00:36:48.360 Now, I don't want to...

00:36:50.440 It's already stopped, hasn't it?

00:36:52.620 I mean, we went back to catch and release.

00:36:54.380 I don't think we're rip-tearing people away now.

00:36:56.720 Yeah, but now the case is, and I heard this on CNN this morning, they had a doctor on

00:37:01.620 who saw one of the facilities, I want to say, and was saying how someone had, one of the

00:37:08.480 kids hadn't been hugged in several weeks.

00:37:12.660 Hadn't been hugged?

00:37:14.080 Or she had gone with, the kid had gone with zero hugs.

00:37:18.220 A hug shutout, as it were.

00:37:20.860 Wow.

00:37:21.920 Is he okay?

00:37:22.980 Is he in critical condition?

00:37:25.260 I mean, obviously, I don't think you can survive without hugs.

00:37:27.800 What's the maximum?

00:37:28.920 Can you look this up?

00:37:29.600 I'll call him WebMD.

00:37:30.920 What's the maximum amount of time you can go out without a hug?

00:37:34.380 It can't be more than three or four days.

00:37:36.280 It can't be.

00:37:36.880 It can't be.

00:37:37.860 I'm pretty sure.

00:37:39.060 Did they really say that he hadn't been hugged?

00:37:42.120 He hadn't been hugged.

00:37:42.760 I mean, look, as a little kid, that's an important part of, you know, you're separated from

00:37:47.440 your parent, supposedly.

00:37:48.960 Honestly, I think this is the same doctor that wrote about this earlier.

00:37:53.620 And it's interesting because there's just an obvious hatred for the Trump administration

00:38:01.260 in her commentary.

00:38:03.180 Like, she's like, I talked to someone who claimed they were a clinician.

00:38:07.160 I don't, I don't, I have no way of knowing that.

00:38:10.320 Like, well, I don't, I mean, yes, I guess.

00:38:13.580 I mean, I have no way of knowing that you're a doctor, right?

00:38:15.900 I mean, we all have no way of, there's some level of, you know, I guess we're trusting

00:38:21.720 a little bit here.

00:38:22.800 You're on TV saying you're a doctor.

00:38:24.400 I wasn't at your graduation.

00:38:26.040 I don't know if you're actually a doctor or not, but I'm assuming you are, right?

00:38:30.920 Yep.

00:38:31.560 I, they, a government representative comes to you and says they're a clinician and your,

00:38:35.900 your, your reaction to that is I'm suspicious of the background.

00:38:42.320 And it's like, all right, I mean, you're coming at this with an agenda, but that's, I can't

00:38:47.600 talk about that doctor.

00:38:48.400 I can only talk about celebrities and we know celebrities mean what they say.

00:38:52.260 If there's one thing, especially Alec Baldwin and Martin Sheen.

00:38:55.020 Oh my gosh.

00:38:56.280 Our number one and number two celebrity above reproach above reproach.

00:38:59.620 So I, this is why I bring this to you with a bit of hesitance, Pat, because I don't want

00:39:04.500 to depress you.

00:39:06.620 I don't want you to become so overturned emotionally that you can't function for the rest of the

00:39:14.580 show or for the rest of your life.

00:39:16.100 Well, we are in danger of that right now.

00:39:17.980 We are.

00:39:18.940 It's the, my level, level of concern is high.

00:39:23.460 It looks high.

00:39:24.280 It's intense.

00:39:24.940 Your concern looks elevated.

00:39:26.320 Yes.

00:39:26.640 So I want you to make sure as you hear this news and what they're going through.

00:39:31.580 So how long are they, are they going to strike until that kid gets hugged?

00:39:34.800 Uh, no.

00:39:35.380 Are they, how long will this hunger strike last?

00:39:39.400 Well, it's, I know they could not, this kid will never get hugged.

00:39:42.560 Let's be honest about it.

00:39:43.640 Well, never again.

00:39:45.500 That's never going to happen.

00:39:46.780 So they can't do that because they would die.

00:39:48.420 Well, Trump has probably ordered that.

00:39:50.340 He did.

00:39:50.840 Yes.

00:39:51.160 Probably ordered that that kid not be touched or hugged.

00:39:53.620 There's an executive order, the no hugging executive order.

00:39:56.200 Uh, which is very real in some ways and in human in that I said it.

00:40:02.980 Okay.

00:40:03.680 That's the way it's real.

00:40:05.480 Okay.

00:40:06.140 So this is, uh, the hunger strike for Alec Baldwin and Martin Sheen is going to last for 24 hours.

00:40:21.080 Whoa.

00:40:23.200 24.

00:40:23.800 24 hours.

00:40:25.880 Now, I don't know if they have to be consecutive.

00:40:27.360 Are you sure it wasn't 20?

00:40:29.300 It could just be like one a day for 24 days.

00:40:32.020 Are you sure it wasn't 24 minutes?

00:40:34.040 Because I could see that.

00:40:35.740 But 24 hours?

00:40:37.260 Yeah.

00:40:38.160 I, I, seemingly in a row.

00:40:40.880 Wow.

00:40:42.020 Now, are they going to be monitored?

00:40:43.420 I hope their vital signs are going to be continually monitored because can you survive for an entire day?

00:40:50.980 One full day?

00:40:52.340 I don't think.

00:40:53.000 Well, I do once a month.

00:40:54.220 Um, so maybe it's possible, but I don't know.

00:40:57.720 These are celebrities.

00:40:58.540 They have, they have different needs than I do.

00:41:01.940 And, uh, to see them not have food for 24 full hours.

00:41:09.080 Scary.

00:41:09.720 It's very scary.

00:41:10.900 But once you know the real motivation behind it, you, you feel better about it.

00:41:15.100 According to Carrie Kennedy, who is organizing the protests, the hunger strike is designed to raise money for an organization called break bread.

00:41:22.420 Break bread, not families.

00:41:24.640 Wow.

00:41:25.220 That's powerful.

00:41:26.600 They're not powerful.

00:41:27.280 That's powerful.

00:41:28.180 I support that.

00:41:29.380 It didn't.

00:41:29.900 Well, you're saying that it doesn't seem like you think it's that powerful.

00:41:33.200 No, just let that soak in for a second.

00:41:35.300 Break bread, not families.

00:41:38.460 Because this is the new thing.

00:41:39.680 Now that the policy has been changed and we're back to catch and release, they can't really complain about the policy anymore.

00:41:45.900 Now they're just complaining about the people who were caught up in the policy previously.

00:41:49.680 So, like, you know, they haven't reunited all the families yet.

00:41:53.480 Right.

00:41:53.800 Um, and they're now there's reports of them trying to do DNA testing to make sure that you're not just handing it off to some human trafficker.

00:42:00.860 Um, but that's of course also being vilified as this, like, they're taking their DNA.

00:42:06.260 The abs, the essence of their humanity.

00:42:09.500 They're taking it.

00:42:10.680 The Trump administration is, uh, that was, uh, this whole break bread, not families, uh, situation.

00:42:19.680 Uh, is, uh, is going to agitate against, uh, Trump's family separation policy.

00:42:25.480 But has since objected, since they've objected, they've, there's a word there I'm trying to find that I'm not finding.

00:42:32.560 Is it objected?

00:42:34.120 No, since they've, since they, since they've acquired a new policy.

00:42:37.580 Abdicated?

00:42:38.100 Since they, oh, okay.

00:42:39.440 They've come up with a new policy.

00:42:40.900 Yes.

00:42:41.280 Uh, and that, that, so it doesn't really stand anymore, but the, the hunger state strike did go on.

00:42:46.740 Now, no one checked to see if Alec Baldwin actually ate a cheesesteak in the middle of the hunger strike.

00:42:52.720 Like, there's not like, there's no, there's no hall monitors here.

00:42:55.920 Like, you know, Alec Baldwin is jamming down croissants the entire day, but it was supposed to happen.

00:43:03.360 Um, it happened, I guess, just a few days ago.

00:43:06.780 So, is, can we check to see if they're, are they okay?

00:43:10.680 See if Alec Baldwin is alive.

00:43:12.040 Has he been hospitalized?

00:43:14.260 Did they monitor his vital signs during that full 24-hour period of time?

00:43:20.200 It's frightening.

00:43:21.420 It's frightening what these, but it shows you the level of their commitment.

00:43:25.840 To actually go without food for 24 hours is, uh, above and beyond what any other human could do.

00:43:37.340 That's why they're celebrities, though, because they do extraordinary things.

00:43:41.160 That's why you prepare your entire life for a hunger strike by storing fat cells.

00:43:46.500 Yes.

00:43:47.020 Because if you can do that, if you can do that in a large enough number,

00:43:51.000 then you can barely squeak it through and survive a 24-hour fast.

00:43:56.840 That's why I've been doing it.

00:43:58.040 Just in case, at some point in the future, I want to break bread and not families.

00:44:03.480 I can't imagine you, because you're a hateful conservative,

00:44:06.300 so that's probably not likely to ever happen.

00:44:08.420 That's true.

00:44:09.260 But if you're breaking bread and not families, doesn't that indicate eating?

00:44:13.400 Like, why is it a hunger strike if you're breaking bread?

00:44:15.660 Like, well, right.

00:44:17.580 Are you saying you want to break the families?

00:44:19.320 Is that, because if you're, if your concept is, hey, we're going to all have dinner together,

00:44:24.420 let's not break families apart.

00:44:25.960 If you're fasting, does that mean you do want to break families apart?

00:44:30.240 I would say yes.

00:44:32.040 I think the answer to that is yes.

00:44:33.220 I think the answer is yes.

00:44:34.680 And there's nothing we can do other than assume that's what they mean.

00:44:39.660 Well, there's nothing we can do other than assume the worst possible thing for their point.

00:44:43.480 So amazing that nobody cared under Barack Obama.

00:44:48.220 The 25,000 children were separated from their siblings.

00:44:53.260 They were put into cages.

00:44:54.360 They were covered in aluminum foil or whatever.

00:44:58.040 You know, we poked them with pickle forks.

00:45:00.780 Yeah, that's a big pickle fork initiative.

00:45:02.520 Nobody cared.

00:45:03.160 Nobody cared.

00:45:03.980 Not one person raised their voice or raised it as an issue.

00:45:07.440 You happened to go to the border during this period with Glenn Beck and Ted Cruz.

00:45:12.360 That did happen.

00:45:13.920 Actually delivered them supplies and Christmas gifts.

00:45:18.220 But I don't remember seeing anybody else there from, let's say, Hollywood or Washington, D.C.

00:45:26.120 You did not see Alec Baldwin while you were there.

00:45:27.820 I did not see Alec while I was there.

00:45:29.480 I didn't see Martin Sheen while I was there.

00:45:31.600 Did you see?

00:45:32.380 Nor Nancy Pelosi.

00:45:33.700 Sean Penn.

00:45:34.100 Chuck Schumer or Sean Penn.

00:45:36.060 No.

00:45:36.260 Danny Glover.

00:45:37.000 Would you see Danny Glover there?

00:45:38.420 No.

00:45:39.120 I'm sure they were busy with Hugo at the time.

00:45:43.040 Probably true.

00:45:44.120 Celebrating the wonder that was Venezuela.

00:45:45.980 And this is what's so interesting about it.

00:45:47.440 Because when the number was 25,000 kids in detention with the Obama administration, nobody cared.

00:45:54.960 Nope.

00:45:55.240 When the number was 10,000 during the Trump administration, nobody cared.

00:46:00.000 Nobody cared.

00:46:00.660 It's only there's some magical line between 10,000 and 12,000

00:46:04.640 that set off like a bright red line that set off a media firestorm between the 10,000 and 12,000.

00:46:11.360 And you know, it seems that started when the Trump administration did something Obama never did, and that's to check on the kids who were separated to find out how they're doing, where they are, can we reunite them with their families?

00:46:27.100 Right.

00:46:27.540 Which led to a bunch of op-eds and reports about how we've lost X amount of children, which wasn't true at all.

00:46:33.780 No.

00:46:33.900 It was just that they hadn't been able to contact them.

00:46:36.840 But all the children, under this definition, all children were lost previously.

00:46:41.100 So when that was, you're right.

00:46:42.580 It's like, it's a ridiculous way of looking at it.

00:46:44.420 But when that part was explained, and then everybody understood, okay, well, this is only, I mean, they haven't really lost these kids.

00:46:51.260 But oh my gosh, they did separate them from their family for the time.

00:46:54.480 Yeah, and that's how it started.

00:46:55.020 And that's how it all started.

00:46:55.940 It's interesting, too, this 2000, this group of 2000, which is the whole focus of this entire controversy, is actually broke up into three different categories, not just one.

00:47:05.020 Everyone's saying, okay, well, they separated them from their families.

00:47:07.000 Well, there's three categories there.

00:47:08.740 You have criminals, people who were criminals for reasons other than the border, okay?

00:47:15.400 So they separate them every time.

00:47:16.960 And that's never been a controversy.

00:47:18.360 We've always done that.

00:47:19.240 Secondly, there are a group in this 2000 that have crossed the border illegally multiple times.

00:47:27.640 When you do it more than once, it's a felony.

00:47:29.920 Yep.

00:47:30.120 So then you are a criminal and you are separated.

00:47:32.080 That's what happens all the time.

00:47:33.620 It's that third group that we're talking about.

00:47:35.520 And even that group is broken into two categories.

00:47:37.440 I was watching, I think it was CNN a couple of weeks ago, and I was fascinated by this, by this breakdown.

00:47:42.440 They talked about how there are some of these kids came in with their parent, and the parent was given an option.

00:47:53.300 One, you can take your child home with you to your home country.

00:47:57.820 Two, you can leave your child here and let them go through the immigration process and then be joined with someone else on the other side.

00:48:04.900 And some, we don't know what the number is, some percentage of this 2000 decided to go home on their own and be, you know, not quite deported isn't the right word.

00:48:18.560 But you get to leave, they're leaving the country, going back to their home country.

00:48:21.640 Uh-huh.

00:48:22.260 And left their children by themselves on purpose to go through the immigration process because they believe whatever's on the other side is better for them.

00:48:29.760 My gosh.

00:48:30.740 But I mean, think about that.

00:48:31.860 That's unbelievable.

00:48:32.440 That's part of the parental separation.

00:48:34.460 And we don't know what the numbers are.

00:48:36.700 We don't know the number.

00:48:37.540 How many that...

00:48:38.360 We don't know how it's broken down.

00:48:39.560 So there's three groups of immigrants there.

00:48:42.060 You know, the main group everyone's talking about, plus multiple border crossers, which is a felony, and separate criminals.

00:48:50.180 Like if you happen to be a drug trafficker and you cross.

00:48:53.040 So those, really, two of the three groups are not even part of this conversation.

00:48:58.300 Absolutely.

00:48:58.620 You would almost always, you would always have the option of just taking your child and going home rather than being separated, right?

00:49:06.480 In most cases, certainly not in the ones when there's criminal behavior.

00:49:10.780 Right.

00:49:10.880 But if you're a first-time crosser...

00:49:11.620 But if it's a normal first time we've caught you and you're with your child and you say, okay, I'll just go back home.

00:49:17.140 Well, they're going to give you your child and let you go back home.

00:49:20.260 I think they...

00:49:21.380 Not necessarily because of the idea that they're going to try to prosecute all these.

00:49:26.080 The zero-tolerance concept was to say, hey, if you crossed it, that's it.

00:49:29.800 You know, we're not going to let you go back home so you can cross again in two months.

00:49:33.040 Which I think is an understandable...

00:49:34.900 It is.

00:49:35.420 ...situation.

00:49:35.900 And by the way...

00:49:36.440 Because that happens so often.

00:49:37.360 Another part of this was they had a lot of reports.

00:49:40.420 They found an internal DHS report that said that there was a no decrease in border crossings after they implemented this.

00:49:49.780 And they're like, it's not even a deterrent.

00:49:51.280 It's not even working.

00:49:52.400 And first of all, yes, that's the question.

00:49:53.960 Either it's the worst thing that any government has ever done to a human being or it's a deterrent.

00:49:59.240 Like, if it's that, it has to be a deterrent.

00:50:01.940 Like, you can't say, hey, the Nazis are gassing Jews.

00:50:05.340 And also, it's not a deterrent for Jews to enter the country.

00:50:08.280 If you're going to make it into concentration camps, you have to also say it's a deterrent.

00:50:12.700 Right?

00:50:13.020 That doesn't mean it's a good policy.

00:50:14.820 It could be a terrible policy, as we've seen in the examples they are using.

00:50:19.120 But if you say it has to also be a deterrent, right?

00:50:23.140 You can't...

00:50:23.700 They're trying to say, like, it's not even effective policy.

00:50:26.400 Well, it is effective policy.

00:50:27.800 Now, they are saying that because, you know, the media has been talking about it and people are becoming aware of it south of the border,

00:50:33.500 that border crossings are decreasing.

00:50:35.880 Now, my guess is that's going to reverse itself because they've ended the policy.

00:50:38.980 Yeah.

00:50:39.360 Right?

00:50:39.600 I mean, it is a deterrent.

00:50:41.100 That doesn't mean it's the right policy.

00:50:43.080 But, and it certainly doesn't mean that they're doing it the most effective way.

00:50:46.600 Again, there was seemingly no preparation here and no planning.

00:50:49.860 They did not seem to...

00:50:50.680 They don't seem to have a way, an easy way to reunite these families even after they decided to do it.

00:50:56.620 Which, again, just shows a lack of preparation.

00:50:59.580 And this has happened multiple times with these sorts of things.

00:51:02.360 Even when the policy is the right policy, a lot of times it's not implemented correctly.

00:51:06.260 But that's government.

00:51:06.900 I guess we all understand that.

00:51:08.340 Yeah.

00:51:08.420 888-727-BECK.

00:51:10.360 More Pat and Stu for Glenn coming up.

00:51:14.360 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:51:16.160 Yesterday, I noticed an article on Drudge of what a scorcher it was through much of the country for the 4th of July yesterday.

00:51:23.360 So, I started researching a little bit on what is normal for a lot of cities this time of year.

00:51:33.660 And what is...

00:51:34.800 Because you know that this is going to be used as...

00:51:36.900 Right.

00:51:37.860 75 records were broken all across the country yesterday.

00:51:42.080 You're going to be hearing that stuff.

00:51:43.340 And it's because of global warming.

00:51:44.880 It's always global warming.

00:51:46.520 So, the average days in Dallas, Texas, that hit 100 or more.

00:51:54.040 You know what that average is every summer?

00:51:55.860 No.

00:51:56.660 18.

00:51:57.620 So, last year, okay?

00:52:00.060 Hottest...

00:52:00.780 Of course, every year is the hottest on record.

00:52:02.800 And last year is no exception.

00:52:04.680 Hottest on record.

00:52:06.140 So, if the average is 18 days of 100 or more in Dallas,

00:52:10.680 how many last year do you think hit 100 degrees or more?

00:52:14.900 12,000?

00:52:18.600 That's a really good guess.

00:52:19.900 Okay.

00:52:20.740 Other than the fact that there aren't that many days in the year.

00:52:23.320 Am I low or high?

00:52:24.020 You're just slightly high.

00:52:26.340 Okay.

00:52:26.920 It was 10.

00:52:28.560 Thousand?

00:52:29.240 10.

00:52:30.180 Just 10.

00:52:31.000 The number 10.

00:52:32.000 So, there's 18.

00:52:33.360 Yeah.

00:52:33.680 18 on average.

00:52:34.900 It was under that.

00:52:36.540 It was less than average.

00:52:38.020 Like, on basically half of average.

00:52:41.060 Yeah.

00:52:42.100 Amazing.

00:52:43.380 And I looked at multiple cities across the country,

00:52:48.620 and that seemed to be the case everywhere in the hottest year in record.

00:52:52.180 And then they showed just general cities.

00:52:55.140 We usually have more 100-degree days in the West.

00:52:58.280 So, they looked at Sacramento, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, and Phoenix.

00:53:02.520 And they were all below average last year.

00:53:06.760 You know, Tampa has never had a day of 100 degrees or more.

00:53:11.900 Tampa, Florida has never hit 100 degrees.

00:53:15.740 Really?

00:53:16.400 Yeah.

00:53:16.680 Isn't that amazing?

00:53:17.900 Feels that way.

00:53:18.440 I live there.

00:53:19.020 I would not have guessed that.

00:53:19.760 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:53:26.260 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:53:27.540 You know what's great about today?

00:53:29.120 Feels like Monday.

00:53:30.220 It isn't.

00:53:32.520 It's actually Thursday.

00:53:34.000 That's great.

00:53:34.840 Doesn't it feel like it?

00:53:35.620 Oh, that feels good.

00:53:36.360 I keep thinking it's Monday.

00:53:37.400 Nope.

00:53:38.000 Wait a minute.

00:53:38.900 No.

00:53:39.800 We're almost through the week.

00:53:41.440 On Monday, President Trump reveals his Supreme Court nominee.

00:53:46.600 At least that's when it's supposed to happen.

00:53:48.580 So, we'll find out in just a matter of days.

00:53:52.020 We can speculate a ton, and I'm sure everybody will in the meantime.

00:53:55.780 But we'll find out for sure just a few days from now.

00:53:58.000 So, we don't have a really long wait.

00:54:00.240 But most news outlets believe it to be Brett Kavanaugh.

00:54:06.840 They think he's the most likely choice.

00:54:09.180 And the other one that's mentioned most often is Amy Coney Barrett.

00:54:13.440 So, she's only been a judge for a year.

00:54:17.320 There's not a lot of track record for her, just a lot of academic writings.

00:54:21.620 Yeah.

00:54:21.860 And she has, you know, she's clerked for Scalia, I believe.

00:54:26.460 Yeah.

00:54:26.660 And we were listening to a speech she made off the air.

00:54:33.100 And, I mean, the praise and understanding of Scalia and his legacy is pretty significant.

00:54:39.360 I mean, this is not someone, you know, people are kind of throwing her out there.

00:54:42.400 It's like, well, she's a woman.

00:54:44.240 And Roe versus Wade's about the women parts.

00:54:46.880 So, you should pick her.

00:54:49.120 And it's like, that's not really how you pick a Supreme Court justice per se.

00:54:52.800 Although, there's an element of, you know, we've talked about this idea of central casting.

00:54:56.580 Trump has always talked about this as something he loves, right?

00:54:59.760 You want to pick the person who kind of looks the part, right?

00:55:02.560 You don't want some slovenly dolt like me as the Supreme Court justice.

00:55:07.960 You want someone who is, you know, that looks the part.

00:55:10.720 And Gorsuch looks the part.

00:55:12.120 Like, Gorsuch looks like a guy who would be on the Supreme Court, you know?

00:55:15.460 He does.

00:55:15.980 He really does.

00:55:16.860 You know, and that's not necessarily the case.

00:55:19.340 Like, you wouldn't say Scalia necessarily did at times.

00:55:24.180 He was a little disheveled at times.

00:55:27.080 But, you know, who cares, right?

00:55:28.760 You don't care.

00:55:30.820 So, there is an element, though, with Barrett is she's 46 years old, an attractive woman.

00:55:37.620 And the idea is you pick someone who is good-looking and female and young.

00:55:46.700 And they're going to have a hard time beating her up than they would a man.

00:55:51.060 Yeah.

00:55:51.340 And she, I mean, you could, you know, she is, she's very well-spoken, very reasoned, and is not going to be shaken up.

00:55:59.500 She doesn't come off like a kook of any kind, like an extremist.

00:56:03.080 No, not at all.

00:56:04.160 Because that's how they're going to paint whoever it is.

00:56:06.740 Whoever it is, they're going to say that about them.

00:56:08.260 Yeah.

00:56:08.360 I mean, anyone from that list is an extremist to them.

00:56:11.380 You have to find someone.

00:56:12.620 And the idea is you need to win over.

00:56:14.040 We need this consensus pick is what I keep hearing from the Democrats.

00:56:16.800 You're never going to find a consensus pick.

00:56:18.980 No.

00:56:19.280 I mean, of course not, right?

00:56:21.100 Their idea of a consensus pick was Merrick Garland.

00:56:24.320 Oh, geez.

00:56:24.900 You know, that was what they thought was a consensus pick.

00:56:27.620 That's what they want.

00:56:28.460 Yeah.

00:56:28.620 They want someone on their side.

00:56:30.040 It's interesting with Amy Coney Barrett that I think you have somebody who the idea is you'd go to a Susan Collins, you'd go to a Lisa Murkowski, and there'd be something pulling on them to say, I want, you know, a conservative female or a female in that position.

00:56:47.420 You know, and I, you know, I, again, think picking Supreme Court justices, picking presidents, picking anyone based on their, the type of their genitals is not typically the best way to doing it.

00:57:01.220 Like, there's actually usually almost always a better way of picking.

00:57:06.340 And I don't know why we get into this identity politics world where it's just like, well, it's just where we are.

00:57:12.520 You need a woman.

00:57:13.120 But the idea is.

00:57:13.860 That's just where we are right now.

00:57:14.840 It's going to play better if you have a woman overturning Roe versus Wade than a man.

00:57:20.080 And I, again, like I, is it Roe versus Wade is a terribly decided case, whether a man or a woman overturns it.

00:57:27.620 It's still the same crap, crappy case.

00:57:30.780 Stole a case that led to the destruction of 60 million babies over the last 45 years.

00:57:36.120 On the morning cup of Postum today, they were, Joe and Mika were kicking this around a little bit.

00:57:42.320 And that's why we have these two favorites that we just saw there.

00:57:45.560 The inside line is that Amy Barrett would be better for the base, but a tougher confirmation fight.

00:57:52.940 So that's the calculus aides are making.

00:57:56.540 But Mika and Joe, this won't surprise you.

00:57:59.020 People who are involved in the vetting tell us that for the president, it's going to be all about the personal connection, who he feels comfortable with in the moment.

00:58:08.760 So you're saying he's going to pick the man, the white man.

00:58:12.180 Oh, no, I totally don't think you disagree.

00:58:17.080 So what's interesting about that to me is this is the guy, Joe Scarborough, who claims, oh, I'm conservative.

00:58:23.620 I'm so conservative.

00:58:24.880 I'm the guy with the 100 percent NRA reading.

00:58:27.300 That's how conservative I am.

00:58:28.560 I'm Mr. Conservative.

00:58:30.460 He is now left of Mika.

00:58:34.080 Who just said, oh, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:58:36.960 Whoa, I can't go along with that.

00:58:38.680 She's he's offended Mika's conservative principles.

00:58:44.640 I don't know.

00:58:46.020 I don't know.

00:58:47.220 The only reason I say that is a catty K.

00:58:49.960 If you look and see at least through the first year, 90 percent of Donald Trump's elections for U.S.

00:58:55.620 attorneys and federal judges were white men.

00:58:58.820 Yeah.

00:58:59.180 Look, I guess the issue here would be Donald Trump spend a minute with any of them.

00:59:03.660 But again, his theory here is who he's going to have a personal connection with.

00:59:09.200 Is he is he spending more than maybe a passing meeting?

00:59:14.160 I mean, I can't imagine he's meeting a lot of these justices.

00:59:17.140 There's been hundreds of them.

00:59:18.220 Yeah.

00:59:18.420 Is he be shuttling in just judges?

00:59:20.600 There's not time.

00:59:21.620 No.

00:59:22.140 It's do that.

00:59:23.220 He's got people doing that for him.

00:59:24.680 Yeah.

00:59:25.000 So, you know, he's delegated that responsibility.

00:59:27.580 And that to his credit.

00:59:29.540 I mean, now this one is different.

00:59:31.800 This is high profile.

00:59:33.240 He's very involved in this.

00:59:34.460 This is his pick.

00:59:35.440 He gets to choose.

00:59:36.500 He is committed to staying on this list of 25.

00:59:39.140 And I'm looking through I'm just flipping through the list of 25.

00:59:41.720 Lots of people that are not white men.

00:59:44.000 Lots of them.

00:59:45.260 Lots of women.

00:59:46.420 Lots of is a multi par.

00:59:48.580 He's not.

00:59:49.420 Is he white?

00:59:50.160 He is not.

00:59:51.080 He is.

00:59:51.700 He is the first South Asian Article 3 judge.

00:59:56.120 And he's one of the four candidates who Trump interviewed this week.

01:00:01.220 Looking at Robert Young.

01:00:03.380 Also, he is one of the on the list of 25.

01:00:07.220 Went to Harvard.

01:00:08.240 Happens to be African American.

01:00:10.660 You have Diane Sykes, who is Wisconsin U.S. Court of Appeals.

01:00:16.840 Seems to be a female.

01:00:19.160 Again, I don't know how she identifies.

01:00:21.200 So I'm hesitant to note that.

01:00:23.940 Joan Larson, Michigan.

01:00:26.460 She's another one who actually I think is possible.

01:00:30.200 There's not a report of her being interviewed yet.

01:00:32.380 But these things trickle out.

01:00:33.360 Like the Mike Lee thing that was not out when we talked about it on Tuesday.

01:00:36.280 Came out either I think yesterday that Mike Lee was talked to on the phone.

01:00:44.020 Also, of course, Amy Coney Barrett as well.

01:00:47.000 Also, Allison I'd.

01:00:50.000 She is from Colorado.

01:00:52.340 U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit.

01:00:55.480 Another one who is on the list.

01:00:57.240 So again, you know, there is a pretty good set of diversity here.

01:01:03.120 Which, by the way, means nothing.

01:01:03.520 He's not basing it on whether you're white and male.

01:01:06.320 No, it's just stupid.

01:01:06.860 That's not going to be the basis that he decides this on.

01:01:10.840 It's ludicrous to say that.

01:01:13.620 And it's just interesting how to see the transformation of Joe Scarborough to just a complete pandering liberal now.

01:01:20.960 Just pandering to the people who watch MSNBC now.

01:01:25.500 And he had been that for a long time.

01:01:27.600 A long time.

01:01:27.920 He is a member in good standing of a particular Hall of Fame of note here from the Pat and Stu show.

01:01:37.420 Right.

01:01:37.480 So, you know, I think there is an element of that, you know, this is not a new thing.

01:01:45.240 It does seem that since the romance started with Mika, that the move has been, that the tone of his commentary has become more overtly left-wing.

01:01:56.120 And now he's come to the point, apparently, where he's actually moved past Mika.

01:02:02.360 She's like, oh, no, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:02:05.500 Whoa, now.

01:02:06.000 What are you talking about, Joe?

01:02:08.160 Are you calling our president a racist, misogynist, sexist?

01:02:13.420 No, I'm not going there with you, my friend.

01:02:16.860 So, and are you telling me that if a Clarence Thomas type were presented to Donald Trump, he wouldn't consider him?

01:02:26.120 Of course he would.

01:02:27.300 Of course he would.

01:02:28.400 There was a black judge who was along the lines of Clarence Thomas.

01:02:31.780 You know, he's looking for ideology, I think.

01:02:33.920 You're looking for somebody who's going to be a constitutionalist.

01:02:37.920 Someone who's going to be a traditionalist in interpreting the Constitution.

01:02:44.140 And that's what you're looking for.

01:02:45.840 You're not looking for some white guy or a rich guy or even a conservative guy.

01:02:52.480 You want somebody who's a constitutionalist.

01:02:54.680 And I think that's what he's going to look for.

01:02:55.940 Yeah, I mean, look.

01:02:56.980 That's what he did with Gorsuch.

01:02:58.200 It's more outwardly done with the left.

01:02:59.920 We know that.

01:03:00.920 I mean, you know, Obama picked Sotomayor and Kagan.

01:03:04.120 Sotomayor was a good pick for Barack Obama.

01:03:08.340 Like, I mean, that was a good pick if you're a left winger.

01:03:10.880 Like, she is an absolute, like, leaves the Supreme Court and goes to an Antifa rally.

01:03:17.200 Like, she's, it's like, she is, she is, like, going to code pink gatherings the second she leaves the office.

01:03:25.520 She is as, by some measures, to the left of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

01:03:31.360 The most left on the court.

01:03:32.800 And you shouldn't miss, right?

01:03:34.200 If you're, if you're progressive, you've got the presidency, you're getting someone through.

01:03:37.960 I mean, remember, we had Republicans calling us up and saying, hey, well, look, you know, you got to, you got to cede to the president's wishes.

01:03:46.200 He's the president.

01:03:47.500 You know, in nominations, you let it go.

01:03:49.420 It's kind of what, seems like it was Rand Paul that was saying that at the time, right?

01:03:53.880 That he was just going to vote for him because that's the president's prerogative.

01:03:57.320 Well, yeah, but the Senate's prerogative is to say no to the president.

01:04:00.320 Yeah, and oddly, Paul seems to be against Kavanaugh, like, saying that he will not vote for Kavanaugh, which is bizarre to me because he was the guy who called up.

01:04:09.280 And I don't remember if he voted for Sotomayor or Kagan or not.

01:04:12.320 I don't remember if it was either about the judges or if it was, it was about the Supreme Court justice, I think.

01:04:18.080 I think it was.

01:04:19.040 When he was saying that, and I just, I don't feel comfortable with that.

01:04:22.080 Or was it about a Cass Sunstein or something like that?

01:04:24.360 It was one big profile, high profile Obama cabinet person.

01:04:30.800 It was, yeah.

01:04:31.880 And it seemed like he was saying, I'm going to vote because this constitutional is what he does.

01:04:37.920 Yeah, so I don't know.

01:04:38.720 Maybe that wasn't, maybe it was just cabinet and not Supreme Court.

01:04:41.980 Bottom line, though, is that he's come out and said probably he might not vote for Kavanaugh, which is a huge deal here because you can't lose anybody.

01:04:50.140 That's why this is a really hard pick for the president.

01:04:51.980 Because the last one, you're going from Scalia to, no matter where you go from Scalia, the court makeup isn't going to change if you pick, you can't pick someone too conservative, right?

01:05:03.080 Like, you know, if you're a left-wing person and you're worried about the balance of the court, going from Scalia to Gorsuch is not much of a difference.

01:05:11.300 But this one they're going to fight.

01:05:12.140 But this one is, right?

01:05:13.200 They're going to go hardcore here.

01:05:14.520 This is Anthony Kennedy who was the swing vote.

01:05:15.760 And this was one of the arguments, by the way, when the Gorsuch thing was happening.

01:05:19.980 Everybody knew Gorsuch was a very talented, qualified jurist.

01:05:24.040 Everyone knew that he could go on to the Supreme Court and do his job.

01:05:28.100 And he's the right guy.

01:05:29.360 He's not some crazy extremist.

01:05:30.980 He's a great pick in the mold of Scalia.

01:05:33.260 But he's a great pick.

01:05:34.920 And the idea was, maybe the Democrats shouldn't do their BS fight against it.

01:05:42.780 Because if they do that, the Republicans are going to go to the Supreme Court, the 50-vote nuclear option anyway.

01:05:50.020 And Gorsuch is going to get on the court.

01:05:52.520 If they would have been honest and let Gorsuch go through, they could have had a legitimate argument to come to the people and say,

01:06:01.580 Hey, you know, we're fighting this one, but we let Gorsuch through.

01:06:06.120 So they do have that argument now.

01:06:08.080 But they can't do it because they fought Gorsuch and didn't let him get to 60 votes last time.

01:06:13.200 So they already had to change the rule.

01:06:14.620 So the rule's already changed.

01:06:16.160 Now, everyone knows.

01:06:17.180 But they'll claim, well, you got Gorsuch, but we're going to put up a fight this time.

01:06:21.060 Yeah, but what they should have done.

01:06:22.200 No, they will.

01:06:22.700 I mean, you could argue very seriously that they should have just said.

01:06:25.500 They knew they were going to change the rule.

01:06:26.300 They should have just said, you know what?

01:06:27.780 Get him to 60.

01:06:29.000 Let him get over 60 votes.

01:06:30.740 You know, whatever.

01:06:31.260 We know this guy's, you know, he's a conservative.

01:06:33.500 We don't agree with him, but he's legitimate.

01:06:35.080 Let him get to 60.

01:06:36.080 And then when this second one happens, whether it's Kennedy or God forbid on their from their perspective, Ruth Bader Ginsburg or Breyer or somebody else leaves the court.

01:06:44.580 Then you would have an argument to go to the people and say, look, we we would absolutely allow someone sensible like Gorsuch.

01:06:51.740 I mean, we all voted for Gorsuch, but this is crazy.

01:06:55.500 And then they'd have to change the rule after they had already approved of somebody.

01:06:59.940 Now they don't have that argument, which was it's a real blown opportunity.

01:07:02.900 They got nothing out of it.

01:07:04.380 At least they would have something to come to the people with here.

01:07:07.320 And they and they and they don't.

01:07:09.160 They've got nothing.

01:07:09.820 Except, you know, they'll still do it.

01:07:11.420 They'll still try to use it.

01:07:12.820 They'll still try.

01:07:13.320 I think it'll be less effective, though.

01:07:14.420 I think the like, sure, you're going to get your liberal activists to get on board for this, but you actually probably could have won some people over with that.

01:07:21.280 Wait a minute.

01:07:21.800 They put someone so extreme that they have to change the rules to get them through.

01:07:26.800 You know, now, like, you know, they've already blown that opportunity.

01:07:30.320 And it was, you know, they couldn't even make that point because everybody watched everybody who watched the hearing knew that Gorsuch was completely reasonable, was not anywhere near an extremist.

01:07:42.920 Triple eight, nine hundred thirty three or triple eight, seven to seven B.E.C.K.

01:07:47.520 More Pat and Stu for Glenn coming up.

01:07:50.840 Pat and Stu for Glenn.

01:07:52.040 When LeBron James left Cleveland in 2010 to go to Miami, remember how angry Cavs fans were?

01:08:02.340 Yeah.

01:08:02.580 People in Cleveland were they were burning jerseys.

01:08:05.300 And it looks like there's some who are who are just as angry this time.

01:08:09.860 A Cavs fan just set himself on fire trying to burn a LeBron James jersey.

01:08:16.680 You know what I say about that?

01:08:18.700 Worth it.

01:08:19.400 Absolutely worth it.

01:08:22.640 It's worth catching on fire.

01:08:23.760 It's worth catching on fire to make sure you send that message.

01:08:25.520 Just to burn the jersey.

01:08:26.660 Yeah.

01:08:27.560 So there you are demonstrating again your incomprehensible hatred for LeBron James.

01:08:33.180 It's not incomprehensible at all.

01:08:34.220 It's incomprehensible.

01:08:35.240 It's definitely not.

01:08:36.320 I mean, I can't I don't think I can get through it in 30 seconds, but I can spend the whole next hour on it if you wish.

01:08:41.980 I don't think you could.

01:08:43.080 I don't think it's is there an explanation for why you dislike him so?

01:08:46.980 Well, yes, I've explained it many times, but I mean the music's on.

01:08:51.900 Yeah.

01:08:51.940 So now there's no time.

01:08:53.640 We'll talk about it off the air and entertain ourselves.

01:08:57.740 Glenn Beck.

01:08:59.660 Pat Gray and Stu Bergeer for Glenn this week.

01:09:02.120 And you can also join me on my show immediately following this one on the Blaze Radio and TV Network.

01:09:06.660 How would I find something like that?

01:09:07.240 Pat Gray Unleashed.

01:09:08.040 Oh, okay.

01:09:08.680 Yeah.

01:09:09.120 Yeah.

01:09:09.440 So.

01:09:10.680 Can I follow you at Pat Unleashed on Twitter?

01:09:12.720 You can.

01:09:13.280 You can?

01:09:13.940 Yes, you can.

01:09:14.420 Oh, my God.

01:09:14.720 I just wanted to make sure.

01:09:15.600 Indeed, you can.

01:09:16.360 Because either that or someone's posing as you, which is obviously true considering you don't really tweet yourself that much.

01:09:22.940 But.

01:09:23.240 Or at all.

01:09:23.880 Yeah.

01:09:24.480 But you got tweeted once in my life, I think.

01:09:26.320 Like, actual tweet from me that I actually typed and hit.

01:09:32.260 Send.

01:09:32.840 Send.

01:09:34.080 I think won.

01:09:35.440 So you actually did do it and didn't find like massive internal satisfaction?

01:09:40.660 No.

01:09:40.960 Is that hard to believe?

01:09:41.940 That's really.

01:09:43.060 Hmm.

01:09:43.460 No, I didn't actually.

01:09:45.060 Hmm.

01:09:45.640 So you're like everyone else.

01:09:47.560 I can.

01:09:48.460 Yes.

01:09:48.900 Pretty much live without Twitter.

01:09:50.760 Wow.

01:09:51.260 In my life.

01:09:51.940 I can definitely live without it.

01:09:53.520 I just still am on it for some reason.

01:09:55.360 Yeah.

01:09:55.600 And I don't know why.

01:09:56.540 Well, I vowed to myself that I'm going to get more involved in it.

01:10:00.520 Although I have not yet.

01:10:02.320 I think I remember that vow in 2011.

01:10:06.640 And I vowed it many times since.

01:10:08.940 And so that day is coming.

01:10:10.680 Mm-hmm.

01:10:11.120 Sometime.

01:10:11.620 Mm-hmm.

01:10:12.120 That and more Facebook involvement.

01:10:14.240 I just.

01:10:14.720 You do not want to be on your deathbed, Pat Gray, and say, I've always said I would tweet more.

01:10:21.880 And I never got around to it.

01:10:23.660 Biggest regret of my life.

01:10:24.960 I didn't tweet more.

01:10:26.720 This has literally never occurred.

01:10:28.360 No, never.

01:10:28.760 In human history.

01:10:29.460 Not once.

01:10:29.840 No one's like, oh, if I had only posted that really important opinion of mine.

01:10:34.180 Or if I'd only linked to that cat meme.

01:10:37.260 Mm-hmm.

01:10:37.700 If I'd only done 140 characters or less.

01:10:41.580 A lot more than I did.

01:10:43.540 Oh!

01:10:45.260 Damn it!

01:10:45.960 Right now, too.

01:10:48.220 Speaking of Facebook.

01:10:49.500 Algorithms.

01:10:50.340 Facebook algorithm flags and removes the Declaration of Independence text as hate speech.

01:10:57.580 It's going to be really good when they start trying to decide what's hate speech and what isn't.

01:11:02.640 Of course, they're doing that now.

01:11:03.940 They're starting to decide.

01:11:05.680 But when it really kicks in, I think it's going to be a disaster.

01:11:10.160 They already said Facebook and Twitter and Apple are all trying to figure out how to weed out fake news during this upcoming election cycle.

01:11:19.000 And I don't know how you'd do that necessarily because who deems what's fake and what isn't?

01:11:27.020 I mean, look, there are...

01:11:28.380 Fake news is a term started, you know, before the election last year.

01:11:33.360 And I hate the term, by the way.

01:11:34.700 I hate the term.

01:11:35.520 And it is not...

01:11:36.400 And look, to Trump's credit, he was able to...

01:11:39.780 This is one of the things he does well, which is take a term and kind of own it.

01:11:45.360 Made it his.

01:11:46.000 It was actually made, not even...

01:11:49.020 People are like, oh, well, the media started it because they wanted to say that Trump supporters were floating fake stories to support Trump.

01:11:58.800 And they wanted to come up with a term to do that.

01:12:00.700 And then Trump took it from them.

01:12:02.200 That's kind of the popular narrative.

01:12:04.000 In reality...

01:12:04.680 That's not how it happened.

01:12:05.200 No, it was more designed...

01:12:07.200 Like, there's a story that Jeffy sends me approximately once a week, which is about a man who went to go see a prostitute.

01:12:15.380 And it was his wife.

01:12:17.640 Now, this story has been...

01:12:20.200 Is it fake?

01:12:21.380 Replicated in every market.

01:12:22.840 Like, it's always like, man in Kentucky, man in Ohio, man in California.

01:12:27.120 Okay.

01:12:27.320 And it's the same story.

01:12:28.060 It's basically the Pina Colada song.

01:12:30.840 It's similar to the Pina Colada song, you know, that kind of gives the story of this guy who goes out and he just can't...

01:12:39.940 He's just not getting anything from his wife anymore, decides to go, and he calls a prostitute.

01:12:44.340 And that's the only difference from the Pina Colada song.

01:12:46.500 It wasn't a prostitute.

01:12:47.920 But then he goes and he meets up with her and it's her.

01:12:50.760 And then, I think also in the Pina Colada song, they just laugh about it for some reason.

01:12:54.560 Yeah, which I would have been really pissed.

01:12:56.220 I would have been really annoyed.

01:12:57.660 Both of them should have been like, what the hell's wrong with you?

01:12:59.780 And left each other immediately.

01:13:00.980 But instead, no, we just like the same fruity drink.

01:13:03.940 So let's stay together.

01:13:05.600 This case, there's no fruity drinks.

01:13:07.180 But it's like legitimately a story that didn't occur.

01:13:11.160 Now, it may have occurred at some point in history.

01:13:14.020 But it's not this particular story.

01:13:16.160 And it's stuff like that all the time where, you know, it's just legitimately fake news.

01:13:20.960 And if that's what you're removing, that's fine.

01:13:23.200 In fact, that's great, I think.

01:13:25.360 Yeah, I mean, at least I can understand it.

01:13:27.240 You know, I think the main problem here is Facebook and Twitter have taken responsibility.

01:13:32.840 And people are like, well, they haven't taken enough responsibility.

01:13:35.260 I think I had the opposite.

01:13:36.700 It's not their responsibility to tell us what we should share and what we shouldn't share.

01:13:40.520 It's not their responsibility to tell us what we should post and what we shouldn't post.

01:13:44.200 Even if they're all lies, right?

01:13:46.760 Like, even if we're writing stories that are completely false, it's a platform.

01:13:52.740 And what they have decided is, and I do not believe that this has anything to do with them being like,

01:13:57.600 well, we need to be upstanding members of the community.

01:13:59.980 That's not it.

01:14:00.580 They just realized that people are now kind of getting annoyed at spending time on their platform.

01:14:05.180 Because, as we just said, no one gets to the end and is like, oh, I wish I was on Facebook more.

01:14:09.040 Yeah.

01:14:09.400 And they want that to be the case.

01:14:10.820 They want it to be more of a family connection device.

01:14:13.540 But I think their problem there is, it's one thing to do that and try to emphasize those features.

01:14:18.200 It's another thing to actually take responsibility for spreading of news that you don't think is real.

01:14:27.580 I mean, you're right.

01:14:28.360 Now we're getting to the point where if the Declaration of Independence is hate speech, I mean, what isn't?

01:14:33.780 Yes.

01:14:34.800 That's the problem.

01:14:36.240 And if your definition of fake news is a story with a negative spin on Donald Trump, that doesn't make it fake news.

01:14:46.680 It just means, you know, you don't share the opinion that's being expressed in the story.

01:14:53.000 Now, if you're printing things that are just blatantly untrue about the president, that's – but it's up to us to figure that out.

01:15:05.540 It has to be.

01:15:06.520 It can't be –

01:15:07.000 We have to take responsibility and do more to weed that stuff out ourselves.

01:15:13.720 Yeah, and it's amazing how many conservatives, like, blame Facebook for this stuff.

01:15:19.240 It's like, I'm sorry.

01:15:21.200 Yep.

01:15:21.680 It's our responsibility.

01:15:23.620 You know, it's your responsibility to click on an article and then see if it's real and follow it down those lines.

01:15:28.600 And, you know, we obviously, like, are upset when – because there's plenty of liberal nonsense like this, too, where things that are completely fake about the president or about the senators or whatever Supreme Court justice is going to be named on Monday,

01:15:42.140 there will be tons of fake things that are printed to make those people look as bad as possible.

01:15:46.700 But, I mean, is it really Facebook's responsibility to go through each individual post and try to find the ones that aren't real?

01:15:56.640 I say no.

01:15:58.980 I mean, if you wanted to do anything on it, you could start banning certain sites that do this often.

01:16:06.160 I mean, the problem is they just keep creating new ones, you know.

01:16:08.200 But when you find a certain site that really is legitimately posting fake things, but, again, you're going to get down this, you know, this road.

01:16:16.760 It's not your responsibility.

01:16:18.460 It's like if people want to go on that are conspiracy theorists and put all the stuff that Alex Jones says every day and keep posting it, should he be limited in that?

01:16:26.520 Should they stop Alex Jones just because what he says isn't true?

01:16:29.700 I mean, to me, the answer to that is no.

01:16:32.820 No.

01:16:33.160 Like, it's like saying that the, you know, the phone company should, like, step in and say, well, the conversation you're having right now isn't based on reality.

01:16:42.100 Well, so what?

01:16:43.500 It's none of your business.

01:16:44.500 It's not the phone company.

01:16:45.800 It's not their responsibility.

01:16:47.860 Yeah.

01:16:48.480 And I just don't like the idea that they're coming in and doing this.

01:16:52.360 You know, and I think we're both in the same boat in that I don't really get a lot from social media.

01:16:57.800 I mean, I do it for work, but I don't, I don't actually get anything out of it necessarily personally and personal enjoyment wise.

01:17:05.400 And because of that, I don't put a huge premium on the, you know, how wonderful the experience is on Facebook.

01:17:13.480 I don't care.

01:17:14.100 They obviously do.

01:17:15.500 So I can understand why they think that making those improvements will be something good, but I think it's going to cause more problems than not.

01:17:21.900 I mean, they really, do we have any idea like how this turned out with the Declaration of Independence thing?

01:17:25.760 It wasn't, you know, now it's okay and they figured it out.

01:17:28.960 They figured it out.

01:17:30.420 Well, since June 24th, the Liberty County vindicator of Liberty County, Texas has been sharing daily excerpts from the Declaration in the run-up to the 4th.

01:17:40.280 The idea was to encourage historical literacy.

01:17:42.920 So the first nine posts went up without incident, but part 10 did not appear.

01:17:50.900 Instead, they received a notice from Facebook saying the post goes against our standards on hate speech.

01:17:57.000 The post in question contained paragraphs 27 through 31, the grievance section of the document where the put-upon colonists detail their irreconcilable differences they have with King George.

01:18:10.460 So they say that they can't be sure which exact grievance ran afoul of Facebook's policy, but he assumes it's paragraph 31, which excoriates the king for inciting domestic insurrections amongst us and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages.

01:18:32.080 So maybe just the phrase Indian savages prompted them to remove it.

01:18:39.260 So the automated response from Facebook was that they took it off, sent a feedback message with the hopes of reaching a human being who could then exempt the declaration from its hate speech restrictions,

01:18:57.080 fearful that sharing more of the text might trigger the deletion of its Facebook page.

01:19:02.340 They just stopped doing it.

01:19:04.140 So that was kind of the resolution of the problem.

01:19:07.160 They just stopped sharing portions of the declaration of independence because they didn't, they weren't able to get a hold of a human being and say, Hey, it's the declaration of independence.

01:19:16.900 Right.

01:19:17.060 And that's the problem because these are, they're going to be, an algorithm is not going to understand the nuances, at least not yet.

01:19:23.380 I mean, listen to Glenn talk about it.

01:19:24.800 Eventually AI will be able to do these things.

01:19:26.780 Maybe.

01:19:27.280 That's what he, you know, that's definitely what he believes.

01:19:30.160 And it seems like they have a lot of ability to do things that are completely amazing and will be a lot more advanced in the future.

01:19:39.220 Still though, these things are going to, these problems are going to happen.

01:19:42.040 And then there's no way to really just, you know, you realize like how far we've come with these huge companies.

01:19:47.280 There's no way to even get a hold of them.

01:19:48.700 Like, I mean, and we're talking about like, like, you know, like the blaze media, a midsize, right?

01:19:54.800 Media company.

01:19:55.900 When we have issues, like it takes a long time.

01:19:58.480 You have to develop relationships with, with individual people, or you just don't have any way of addressing things that it's not like Facebook hates certain, you know, like they may very well.

01:20:08.600 I mean, obviously we all know there's left leaning, it's left leaning company, but I mean, it's, you know, they, they also want money.

01:20:13.540 They're really just a company that, you know, they, they want money and so they want to help their big media partners be able to get people to the platform.

01:20:20.860 And sometimes they can't even address those things and they have people, but it's like, think of how much is being posted and there's people that post a hundred times a day.

01:20:28.620 Yeah.

01:20:28.860 When you have 2 billion people posting stuff, uh, there's no way you can cover everything.

01:20:33.300 No, there's just no way.

01:20:34.380 So it has to be done by algorithm, right?

01:20:37.180 And then, and so when the algorithm makes mistakes and it's going to a lot, what do you do?

01:20:41.740 And this is, I think one of those situations where it's most easily solved by just letting me decide, right?

01:20:48.820 Let me decide.

01:20:49.980 That's where I think it should go.

01:20:51.020 Let me decide what I post.

01:20:52.400 Let me decide what's fake stuff.

01:20:54.500 Yeah.

01:20:54.640 You can come up with an algorithm that, you know, where, so I'm going to see the stuff that I like, but if I like all fake news, you know, all, every single piece of it is a lie.

01:21:04.760 Then just keep giving me the lies.

01:21:07.240 That's the honest, like, I know that sounds like, and you'll just believe lies.

01:21:11.000 That's okay.

01:21:11.940 Yeah.

01:21:12.200 Some people are going to do it anyway.

01:21:13.600 Yeah.

01:21:14.020 They're all going to find this information anyway.

01:21:15.800 It's not your job to manipulate what we think.

01:21:19.220 It's, it's really not.

01:21:20.860 And you know what?

01:21:21.580 The people who are in, like, if I start sharing all lies, uh, about, you know, if, if my entire feed are all lies about LeBron James, which is certainly possible that my feed might be that someday.

01:21:33.560 If that were the case, the people who like LeBron James in my feed will, will not like me anymore or block my posts.

01:21:41.060 And over time, those things kind of have a way of working themselves out.

01:21:44.240 I think Facebook's position is, no, they didn't.

01:21:46.480 We tried it and no, they didn't.

01:21:48.720 But again, like you're telling your consumers what they want to consume is wrong.

01:21:54.260 You know, you're telling them, Hey, you know, we don't like, it's like if, if people started, uh, you know, when I was a kid, they used to make those, um, uh, like Coca-Cola, uh, popsicles.

01:22:06.440 Like you'd put them in the little popsicle containers, you put Coca-Cola in there and then you freeze them up.

01:22:10.240 Like if Coca-Cola was like, that is not what it was said.

01:22:12.180 We wanted you to drink our soda.

01:22:14.440 And they came out and started banning, you know, freezers so that people couldn't make popsicles anymore.

01:22:19.440 It's like, well, that's not your job.

01:22:21.860 Don't worry about it.

01:22:23.300 Don't worry about it.

01:22:24.340 I bought your product.

01:22:25.120 I do what I want with it.

01:22:27.480 Right.

01:22:27.880 That's what you would tell Coca-Cola.

01:22:29.480 There's an interesting story with McDonald's going back in the day.

01:22:32.300 They had these little tiny spoons for stirs.

01:22:36.160 They were little mini stirs and people were supposedly in media reports using them for drugs because they were little tiny spoons and they were easy to like snort a little bit of whatever drug you were doing.

01:22:47.680 I don't know if it was cocaine at the time or whatever.

01:22:50.400 And they, McDonald's had to come out and change their entire product line because people were accusing them of helping people who were doing drugs with their stirs.

01:22:59.420 Oh man.

01:22:59.860 It's like, what the heck?

01:23:01.440 Come on.

01:23:01.720 What are they supposed to do?

01:23:03.160 But again, they just fold to it.

01:23:05.000 Every time.

01:23:06.120 They figure over the long run it's better.

01:23:07.700 No one has a spine on anything.

01:23:09.260 Stand up for your drug paraphernalia that you make.

01:23:11.840 That's what I'm saying.

01:23:15.280 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

01:23:16.340 One of the most brutal terrorist groups on the planet, the Somali terrorist Al-Shabaab.

01:23:25.700 They have announced a ban on single-use plastic bags.

01:23:30.000 Wow.

01:23:34.120 You know, they're environmentally friendly.

01:23:35.920 Thank God.

01:23:36.460 This is, you know, finally.

01:23:38.140 Oh, they're doing more than just that though.

01:23:39.780 They also are ending people's lives.

01:23:41.740 So they're not emitting any carbon dioxide.

01:23:43.480 Exactly.

01:23:44.480 Because they've stopped breathing.

01:23:45.780 Mm-hmm.

01:23:46.200 They're not drains on the planet anymore.

01:23:48.420 Population control.

01:23:49.300 Mm-hmm.

01:23:51.200 The group's radio station, Radio Andalus, which, you know, who doesn't have that on their dial?

01:23:57.120 Oh, that wacky morning show is hilarious.

01:23:59.620 They're funny.

01:24:00.160 Oh, my gosh.

01:24:00.640 They're funny.

01:24:01.080 They are so good.

01:24:02.140 Habib and Mohammed, really good in the morning.

01:24:05.380 Well, actually, Mohammed, I think, left.

01:24:06.960 Oh, he did?

01:24:07.520 Yeah, recently.

01:24:08.660 What happened?

01:24:09.260 He got afternoons for Al-Qaeda.

01:24:13.440 It's a good gig, though.

01:24:14.420 Yeah, he got a good gig there.

01:24:15.460 Has Habib found a new partner?

01:24:18.400 I can't remember.

01:24:19.780 I think so.

01:24:20.640 I think he's bringing somebody in from AQAP in Yemen.

01:24:26.020 Producer over there coming in, doing afternoons with him.

01:24:30.460 So they've announced that they will be banning single-use plastic bags in the territories they control

01:24:36.660 because the discarded bags, quote,

01:24:40.300 This is unreal.

01:24:42.380 pose a serious threat to the well-being of humans and animals alike.

01:24:46.120 So do you.

01:24:47.140 Unquote.

01:24:47.600 Yeah.

01:24:48.020 It's like.

01:24:48.880 We don't.

01:24:49.580 Well, we don't.

01:24:50.500 I mean, I don't want to clog up our waterways with them,

01:24:53.760 but I don't mind blowing up a, you know, school bus full of children, apparently.

01:24:58.460 What a bizarre, what a bizarre announcement for them to make.

01:25:06.000 In addition, though, they're not stopping there.

01:25:09.140 In addition to banning the plastic bags,

01:25:12.220 this environmentally conscious group also issued an immediate ban on the

01:25:17.140 logging of indigenous trees.

01:25:20.420 So.

01:25:20.940 Thank you, Al-Shabaab.

01:25:23.660 Thank you.

01:25:24.400 How many times have we demanded indigenous trees are not logged?

01:25:31.780 We have stood up for this cause for how long, Pat?

01:25:35.140 Me were marching on this indigenous logging thing.

01:25:37.280 Late 40s, I think, is when we started it.

01:25:38.600 Yeah.

01:25:38.980 Right?

01:25:39.260 I mean, first March was probably early 50s, but yeah, we started the movement in the late

01:25:43.680 40s.

01:25:44.180 Yeah.

01:25:44.320 We started getting really angry about it in the late 40s.

01:25:47.320 Yeah.

01:25:47.680 And then we were only moderately perturbed in the 30s.

01:25:50.520 Right.

01:25:51.000 About it.

01:25:51.600 Right.

01:25:51.680 But we did get, we got a little bit further on that.

01:25:55.520 A terrorist group is banning plastic bags and logging of indigenous trees.

01:26:01.280 Pretty amazing.

01:26:02.200 That is amazing.

01:26:03.060 It's almost like an onion story.

01:26:06.680 Yeah, it kind of is.

01:26:07.460 You know?

01:26:07.760 Um, and, uh, something you might expect the Facebook algorithm to flag because it's fake

01:26:15.720 news, but apparently it's not.

01:26:18.020 Um, in fact, the story actually says, what do, what do Coles, Woolworth, and Al-Qaeda affiliate

01:26:24.680 Al-Shabaab have in common?

01:26:26.600 They're all currently in the middle of implementing plastic bag bans.

01:26:30.140 Uh, Seattle too.

01:26:34.920 Seattle is, is in the process of banning, uh, plastic utensils and, uh, and, and plastic

01:26:44.840 straws.

01:26:45.500 So you can still use a paper straw, but the far superior plastic straw is being banned.

01:26:51.500 Uh, since July 1st, restaurants in Seattle are barred from providing customers plastic

01:26:56.800 straws, cocktail picks, or utensils, unless someone specifically requests one.

01:27:02.300 So I guess you can actually ask for one still.

01:27:04.500 In that case, the customer should be given a compostable option, according to the Seattle

01:27:09.580 Public Utility.

01:27:10.620 God, where did I see this?

01:27:11.660 Someone was sharing it, maybe on Twitter or something, of a person who went into a store

01:27:15.240 and, uh, the, or into a restaurant and the waiter supposed, I mean, again, this is another

01:27:22.320 dumb social network thing, but they had, the waiter said, um, we don't have a

01:27:26.780 would you like a straw or would you, or would, um, can I bring you no straw or would you

01:27:31.580 like to like kill the animals?

01:27:33.700 Something like that.

01:27:34.220 Like some sort of like guilt trip.

01:27:35.500 And they're like, you know, I never thought of it like that, but that's true.

01:27:37.940 Like I would have, I would have, I would have stood out and immediately walked out of the

01:27:41.640 restaurant.

01:27:42.140 Me too.

01:27:42.780 That's too much.

01:27:43.840 I would have grabbed a handful of straws on the way out.

01:27:50.480 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:27:52.520 With Pat and Stu.

01:27:54.240 And, uh, joining us now, Jeffy.

01:27:57.100 Hey, Jeffy.

01:27:59.100 Hello.

01:27:59.800 Hi.

01:28:00.120 Thank you.

01:28:00.620 Hi.

01:28:00.820 How you doing?

01:28:02.960 So anyway, I went to the fourth.

01:28:04.420 Did you see the fireworks last night?

01:28:06.320 Obviously some cities had them on the third, but I went to the fireworks last night that,

01:28:10.280 uh, the cities so graciously do every year.

01:28:14.040 They spend a few dollars that they ask for donations for during the year.

01:28:19.020 It's just charity is what they're doing.

01:28:20.600 They're letting things, they're letting dollars explode in the sky for, I don't think that's

01:28:24.980 how it works.

01:28:25.780 They just take donations and then they do the fireworks based on the property tax bill

01:28:30.780 that, uh, I'm assessed with every year.

01:28:32.640 I don't think they're donations.

01:28:34.400 Really?

01:28:35.020 Maybe they just got tired of asking and they knew you were going to say, yeah, so we'll just

01:28:38.260 take it.

01:28:38.780 So that's nice.

01:28:40.180 That is nice.

01:28:41.100 It's thoughtful.

01:28:41.820 So we're at the park and it's packed.

01:28:44.360 It's that we're on, we're on a lake.

01:28:45.860 That's a list late grapevine.

01:28:47.300 That's a close to this neck of the woods where we all live.

01:28:49.880 And I mean, two and three to a mule.

01:28:53.360 They're coming into this place.

01:28:54.300 It's amazing.

01:28:55.300 And it's about an hour away.

01:28:57.240 Two and three to a mule.

01:28:59.400 It's packed.

01:29:00.240 Talks like that.

01:29:01.980 It's other time.

01:29:03.400 It talks like that over here.

01:29:04.920 And I, it's about an hour before the fireworks, here comes an ice cream truck.

01:29:10.820 I mean, to tell you, they didn't even spend, they were sold out within an hour of this.

01:29:16.120 They didn't even make it all the way into the park.

01:29:17.800 It was just two stops along this road and they were packed.

01:29:20.780 Nothing says American like capitalism, bringing in an ice cream truck to the fireworks place

01:29:25.860 at the beach.

01:29:26.480 Yeah.

01:29:26.700 I was amazed.

01:29:27.520 Do you expect to bring that story up and expect us to believe that other people got ice cream

01:29:32.460 other than you out of that truck?

01:29:33.640 Is that what you're asking us to believe?

01:29:35.820 Of course.

01:29:37.180 I didn't have a whole bunch of money with it.

01:29:39.000 Oh, okay.

01:29:39.960 I mean, I sent my daughter down to one truck.

01:29:44.260 You went to another one?

01:29:45.300 You actually came up with a system to maximize the amount of ice cream you get?

01:29:49.640 What a surprise.

01:29:50.820 Let me tell you some names.

01:29:53.060 Babe Ruth.

01:29:54.960 Wayne Gretzky.

01:29:57.080 Pele.

01:29:58.560 Michael Jordan.

01:30:00.220 Tom Brady.

01:30:02.020 Joey Chestnut.

01:30:03.640 Joey the Jaws Chestnut.

01:30:08.380 You're not really.

01:30:09.460 Don't even try to put him in there.

01:30:10.920 Oh, come on.

01:30:11.520 Don't even try it.

01:30:13.060 What's the.

01:30:13.640 I mean.

01:30:15.440 Joey's won 11 straight hot dog tournaments.

01:30:18.660 Yeah.

01:30:18.920 I mean, that's strong.

01:30:20.520 Strong.

01:30:21.180 That's an athletic performance almost unmatched in America.

01:30:24.980 Athletic performance.

01:30:25.940 I will say you just on your note on your list there.

01:30:29.460 Tom Brady has won zero consecutive.

01:30:32.060 It's because the Philadelphia Eagles beat him.

01:30:34.500 That's why.

01:30:35.180 Just to note that.

01:30:36.340 Just to put that on there.

01:30:37.120 That's good.

01:30:37.600 Yeah.

01:30:37.760 Well, put that in your pipe as it were.

01:30:39.960 The hot dog eating contest is, you know, as you know, I'm more of a distance eater.

01:30:45.560 Yes.

01:30:46.000 I'm not really a sprinter.

01:30:47.660 Right.

01:30:47.820 And the sprinters, man.

01:30:49.080 Those guys, I don't know how the heck they do it.

01:30:51.460 It's kind of gross.

01:30:53.600 Yeah.

01:30:53.760 They do it in a nasty way by dipping it in water and then just suck it down your.

01:30:57.780 Yeah.

01:30:58.340 It's revolting in every way.

01:31:00.120 It is.

01:31:00.540 It's unwatchable.

01:31:02.380 I don't know how anyone watches it.

01:31:03.800 It's so disgusting.

01:31:05.700 Like, you know, there's just that physical revulsion that happens to you over a certain

01:31:08.980 night.

01:31:09.200 I think that is one of them.

01:31:10.680 Just looking at the bread as it's wet falling back into the cup makes me want to die.

01:31:15.680 That's gross.

01:31:18.740 I mean, that's I don't know, man.

01:31:20.780 I don't know.

01:31:21.220 I know you talked about eating what?

01:31:22.660 Twelve.

01:31:23.460 Yeah.

01:31:23.620 And I can easily eat twelve hot dogs.

01:31:25.460 Just not in ten minutes.

01:31:26.700 Yeah.

01:31:27.240 It wasn't in ten minutes when I ate twelve.

01:31:28.960 Right.

01:31:29.380 It was over a couple hours.

01:31:30.540 Yeah.

01:31:30.780 I mean, you can easily eat twelve hot dogs.

01:31:34.740 Now, when we were doing the Pat and Stu show, I had, you know, a few peeps that I ate.

01:31:41.700 But that was more of a distance.

01:31:43.320 A few peeps.

01:31:44.000 I forgot about that.

01:31:44.380 It was more of a distance eater there.

01:31:45.760 It was like for an hour or two, right?

01:31:47.560 Was it both hours of the show or just one hour?

01:31:49.480 It was both hours.

01:31:50.220 Marissa, do you remember what the number was on that?

01:31:52.120 How many?

01:31:52.360 It was over seven.

01:31:54.580 Over seven.

01:31:55.180 It was over seven.

01:31:55.760 It was over seven, I think, right?

01:31:56.240 It was over seven.

01:31:56.960 73 peeps.

01:31:58.060 So, I was going to do it.

01:31:58.580 That's, you know, it'll say, you know, average thirty-five an hour.

01:32:04.220 Again, that's marathon.

01:32:05.600 That's not sprint.

01:32:06.640 Correct.

01:32:07.300 Right?

01:32:07.560 Correct.

01:32:07.960 Yeah.

01:32:08.220 I just find it amazing.

01:32:10.080 And they were arguing over the count.

01:32:13.140 You know, the TV count was off.

01:32:15.240 Yeah.

01:32:15.400 Because they were counting from one play to not two.

01:32:18.660 And I'm like, okay, just give the guy the mustard belt and let's move on.

01:32:22.620 Let's just stop this thing.

01:32:24.100 It was just.

01:32:24.760 And they did.

01:32:25.480 Yeah, they did.

01:32:26.180 And they did.

01:32:26.660 They absolutely did.

01:32:28.020 But he did break the record.

01:32:29.060 He ate 74.

01:32:30.620 I mean, again, it's his own record.

01:32:33.080 That's athletic ability beyond belief.

01:32:35.580 I saw him interviewed.

01:32:36.580 And I think it was ESPN that did the interview.

01:32:38.780 And I'm like, this is not a sport.

01:32:41.220 Oh, yes.

01:32:41.680 To ESPN it is.

01:32:42.520 I mean, they had the ESPN3 cam in the back.

01:32:45.960 If you were watching ESPN3, you could watch him eat from a different angle.

01:32:50.580 Which would be better for you, Stu.

01:32:53.460 But he was talking about how he felt really good.

01:32:57.380 And he felt like he could maybe attack his own record.

01:33:02.500 And his body was in great shape for it.

01:33:06.260 And I'm like, come on now.

01:33:08.560 This is not an athletic competition.

01:33:10.800 Well, Pat, you just don't do that.

01:33:12.540 You've got to work up to it.

01:33:13.520 Those guys practice.

01:33:15.020 And he does.

01:33:16.360 Yeah, he does.

01:33:17.020 That's pretty amazing.

01:33:17.960 Yeah.

01:33:18.460 And he was, I think, pretty much not eating anything.

01:33:21.380 He was drinking liquids the day before.

01:33:23.880 Getting ready for it.

01:33:24.800 Getting ready for it.

01:33:25.360 Because you can imagine.

01:33:26.060 Just to spread your gullet out a little bit and get it ready to just inhale those hot dogs.

01:33:30.420 And he's not a fat guy at all.

01:33:33.160 He's in decent shape.

01:33:35.120 I don't know how he does it.

01:33:36.280 I really don't know how he does it.

01:33:37.760 How do you not get full after, I don't know, 10, 12, 15, 30.

01:33:41.580 Well, you might get full, but you've got to push on.

01:33:44.080 You've got to push through it.

01:33:44.940 You've got to push through it.

01:33:45.620 And he did.

01:33:46.540 And he does.

01:33:47.320 You don't get this by saying, no, that's enough.

01:33:51.800 We've noticed.

01:33:52.580 And then, by the way, ESPN does think it's a sport because they're already dumping a bunch of money into the gaming arena.

01:34:03.520 And they start broadcasting all those gaming shows.

01:34:08.320 The guys competing against each other, playing different games for the e-sports.

01:34:12.760 I mean, it's amazing.

01:34:14.900 Yeah.

01:34:15.060 They broadcast the Madden Championships quite a bit now.

01:34:19.380 Yeah.

01:34:19.600 I've been to that event before.

01:34:21.020 Have you?

01:34:21.320 I guess it's one of those Madden Championships where actual players play against each other.

01:34:26.720 Right.

01:34:27.680 It's wildly entertaining to watch, oddly.

01:34:30.800 Is it?

01:34:31.180 Yeah.

01:34:31.560 It's just like, I don't know why.

01:34:33.040 Watching other players, other guys play video games is entertaining?

01:34:36.560 Some of the biggest gaming channels out there are guys playing games and talking their way through it.

01:34:40.980 Well, and yeah, absolutely.

01:34:42.840 First of all, it's huge business now.

01:34:44.380 But they have some of the games I just don't know, like World of Warcraft and all that other stuff.

01:34:50.480 I have no interest in it because I don't do it.

01:34:52.640 But Madden, I've played my whole life.

01:34:54.920 And to watch.

01:34:56.120 And then, of course, it's also people you know, like actual NFL players who know stuff about the defense and the offense.

01:35:01.980 I mean, there's been large stories written about how they come up with their player ratings and how the guy who comes up with them, and he did for many years at Madden and EA Sports, would actually get lobbied from players.

01:35:16.400 Like, he's getting harassing messages.

01:35:18.920 How can I only be an 80 for speed?

01:35:21.040 I mean, come on.

01:35:21.580 What are you talking about?

01:35:21.920 I do this.

01:35:22.580 Yeah.

01:35:23.140 It's really strange.

01:35:25.280 But it's a weird world.

01:35:26.220 And I mean, they're going to start broadcasting all the drone races.

01:35:28.940 They've got drone race contracts coming up.

01:35:30.680 It's going to be.

01:35:32.940 I've seen one of those two broadcasts.

01:35:34.500 Yeah.

01:35:34.680 I mean, that does not sound so uninteresting.

01:35:40.000 Why am I watching this?

01:35:42.480 But I kept watching it for a while.

01:35:43.820 But I wondered why I was.

01:35:45.400 Because the football season was over.

01:35:46.900 And that's why.

01:35:47.740 That's why I was.

01:35:49.400 College football was not on.

01:35:50.940 Neither was the NFL.

01:35:51.980 Okay, let's watch drone racing.

01:35:53.260 Well, the most exciting story is like, hey, there's a bunch of people in a cave somewhere.

01:35:57.760 And they're trying to figure out how to get out of the cave.

01:35:59.600 But when you think that drone racing, you don't care about the kids in the cave.

01:36:04.640 First of all, I do definitely care about them.

01:36:06.360 But secondly, you actually kind of sold me on the story as we were coming into the in the commercial break.

01:36:11.460 Well, because I obviously you have a heartfelt, you know, you want them to live.

01:36:17.240 Absolutely.

01:36:17.720 Just like it's like worldwide.

01:36:19.460 Yeah.

01:36:19.580 People in the well or 11 year olds or whatever.

01:36:22.000 12 kids.

01:36:22.600 You really care about it from that perspective.

01:36:24.480 But, you know, outside of that, like, I'm not an engineer.

01:36:27.640 I don't know how to rescue kids from caves.

01:36:30.260 But you I mean, it's they could be in there for a long time.

01:36:32.860 A long time.

01:36:33.320 Yeah.

01:36:33.420 They're saying now they could be in there for at least a month, maybe try to get if they don't get them out before the monsoon happens.

01:36:39.580 Right.

01:36:39.700 It'll probably be a while.

01:36:40.940 It'll be quite some time.

01:36:42.280 It's amazing.

01:36:42.820 It took a couple of divers, professional divers.

01:36:47.200 It took them, what, an hour and a half to get it?

01:36:49.080 It took them 90 minutes to scuba dive into that cave.

01:36:53.100 And they were thinking, well, maybe we can have the kids scuba dive out to professionals.

01:36:58.960 It took them over an hour and a half.

01:37:00.660 Well, it's going to take more than that to get them out now with the with the way the caves have flooded because they're talking now that they've brought in.

01:37:06.260 You can't ask these full face diving masks and they're trying to train them to dive.

01:37:11.380 Yeah, there's no way.

01:37:12.920 They can't do that.

01:37:13.360 And many, a couple of them can't even swim.

01:37:15.420 And it says now it's going to take a six hour dive through the narrow underwater passages to get out.

01:37:24.080 And some of those passages go black.

01:37:26.440 You know, you just got to keep going with your hands on the wall.

01:37:29.100 There's no way the kids survive that.

01:37:30.920 And one kid, if one person, one kid freaks out, it's going to screw the rest of them up.

01:37:36.480 You know they will.

01:37:37.260 It's going to, you know, they're all going to be, all going to be dead.

01:37:40.440 So now they're they they say that some kids believe that they heard other sounds, outdoor sounds when they were in there the first time they were trapped.

01:37:49.880 So they're looking around to see if there's some air hole or air vent that they can drill in to get them out before the rains come.

01:37:55.540 Which is good.

01:37:56.240 You know, that'd be really good.

01:37:57.340 Right.

01:37:57.600 But they've already moved, removed 128 million liters of water.

01:38:02.380 And I don't know how much that is.

01:38:03.760 No, there's no way to tell.

01:38:04.980 120 million liters.

01:38:05.520 I don't know if that's a gallon.

01:38:06.140 When it's in a metric measurement, there's no way to tell.

01:38:07.840 It could be a drop of water or it could be an ocean full.

01:38:11.220 I don't know.

01:38:11.880 I don't know.

01:38:12.160 That's true.

01:38:12.520 There's no way to tell.

01:38:13.820 I don't know how much water that is.

01:38:17.160 Somewhere between a drop and an ocean.

01:38:18.900 But they keep pumping it out and now they're into the third cave pumping water out.

01:38:26.000 And that's full.

01:38:26.720 And they don't know how much more water is coming in just because it naturally comes in.

01:38:32.220 So they're just trying to pump it out as fast as they can to try to get these kids out of there.

01:38:35.800 Amazing.

01:38:36.460 And it's just fascinating to me.

01:38:37.760 At first, I mean, I get that you want to go through these caves and everything.

01:38:42.940 But if you're a soccer team and you've got the coach there.

01:38:45.960 Play soccer and go home.

01:38:47.080 You don't have a guide and you think, hey, let's go check out the caves.

01:38:50.680 No.

01:38:51.640 You know, no, not today.

01:38:52.940 How about we go back home?

01:38:55.360 How about that?

01:38:56.560 And then it started flooding and they didn't know what to do.

01:38:59.880 So they just kept going back in trying to find their way out and to get farther and farther in.

01:39:04.400 Can you imagine what that would have been like?

01:39:06.780 You're in a cave and the water starts coming in.

01:39:09.960 You realize you can't go back out the way you came in.

01:39:12.680 And you just have to keep going deeper and deeper looking for dry ground.

01:39:16.460 Yeah.

01:39:16.640 I mean, that is that is terrifying.

01:39:19.980 Terrifying.

01:39:20.900 And then finally, you know, they found them and they heard them hollering.

01:39:25.540 And so they brought them food.

01:39:27.240 And like you said, they dove the divers.

01:39:29.020 The professional divers originally went in.

01:39:31.980 It took nine days, though, to find them in the first place.

01:39:34.680 Yeah.

01:39:34.940 Nine days.

01:39:35.820 What did they eat?

01:39:37.500 Did they not eat at all?

01:39:38.980 We don't know the full story yet on how they survived.

01:39:42.020 It's incredible.

01:39:42.780 They may have started with 15 kids.

01:39:44.040 Which we don't know.

01:39:46.940 It's a Donner party situation.

01:39:49.580 No, they don't know the full story yet.

01:39:51.200 They're posting some videos saying hello to the family.

01:39:53.080 Some of their classmates are outside now praying for them, letting them know they're there.

01:39:58.240 They're posting videos.

01:39:59.560 And the world is watching.

01:40:00.280 But, man, think about having to, well, we're going to have to try to keep bringing this water out of here.

01:40:06.320 And we'll hope that you're okay for the next three or four months.

01:40:09.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.760 That's amazing.

01:40:10.660 That's unbelievable.

01:40:12.100 Be frightening.

01:40:13.340 Frightening.

01:40:13.920 Mm-hmm.

01:40:14.180 Do you think you could go nine days without food, Jeffy?

01:40:17.640 Oh, nine days?

01:40:18.580 Yeah.

01:40:19.400 I mean.

01:40:21.080 Because, I mean, you've been able to, over time, fight off a situation in which you might

01:40:26.700 not have access to food by storing cells of fat.

01:40:34.820 I'm glad you asked me to come in.

01:40:36.100 For your book.

01:40:37.060 Yeah, it's good to see you.

01:40:38.080 It's good to see you, too, Jeffy.

01:40:39.600 Jeffy can go nine minutes without food.

01:40:41.580 Not fully nine minutes.

01:40:44.380 He'd have to have a smoothie.

01:40:46.020 I'll tell you what.

01:40:46.780 I'll tell you what.

01:40:47.360 If Alec Baldwin can go 24 hours, I can't.

01:40:53.020 I'll take that bet.

01:40:54.260 All right.

01:40:55.800 Too bad Alec already, he already did the fast, right?

01:40:58.660 I think so, yeah.

01:40:59.400 Oh, so I did.

01:41:00.020 Yeah, me too.

01:41:00.700 Yeah.

01:41:01.480 Did you?

01:41:01.900 Yeah, I already did.

01:41:02.520 You're already done?

01:41:03.120 Yeah, for the kids.

01:41:03.840 Okay.

01:41:04.300 Way to go.

01:41:04.680 We didn't check in on you, though, the whole time.

01:41:06.420 You're sure you didn't eat anything for 24 straight hours?

01:41:08.580 No, 24 hours.

01:41:09.340 Mm-hmm.

01:41:09.860 Have you ever gone 24 hours without eating?

01:41:11.700 In your entire life?

01:41:14.100 Mm-hmm.

01:41:15.240 12 hours.

01:41:15.800 I'd like to say yes.

01:41:16.480 Have you ever gone 12 hours?

01:41:17.400 Yeah, I've had a couple surgeries.

01:41:18.480 You can't eat before.

01:41:19.200 No?

01:41:21.440 888-727-BECK.

01:41:27.760 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

01:41:29.620 888-727-BECK.

01:41:32.040 Hey, it looks like Alex Jones has learned a thing or two from the lawsuits that have come

01:41:35.500 his way ever since his Trump support.

01:41:38.100 You know, he gets some coverage now.

01:41:39.360 Um, and...

01:41:41.080 He can't just say anything anymore.

01:41:42.180 He can't.

01:41:43.140 And so, I think he's decided that there's one word he needs to use.

01:41:48.380 A lot.

01:41:50.060 And he does.

01:41:51.100 What's going on?

01:41:53.120 Whether it's hypothetical demons or space aliens doing this?

01:41:56.640 The Martians, hypothetically, you know, have these heads four times the size of ours.

01:42:00.560 Taking barbecue kids on the White House lawn.

01:42:02.920 Uh, hypothetically.

01:42:04.120 Hypothetically.

01:42:04.560 Hypothetically, what we're talking about.

01:42:05.640 Little Jenny's been kidnapped by Alec Baldwin.

01:42:07.640 He hasn't literally kidnapped a little girl named Jenny and doesn't have her in a basement.

01:42:10.540 But let's just say hypothetically.

01:42:11.440 Hypothetically.

01:42:11.560 I just caught my wife, hypothetically, with ten guys running a train on her ass.

01:42:17.720 I value a flower garden in my backyard more than I value a big diamond ring on my wife's

01:42:22.660 finger, hypothetically.

01:42:23.940 They got video cameras set up.

01:42:25.500 They're filming it for Pornhub, hypothetically.

01:42:31.440 Release pictures of you with your gay boyfriends when you were out in, quote, Reno or whatever,

01:42:38.060 hypothetically.

01:42:38.760 Care less if Bush liked me.

01:42:40.380 You know, hypothetically, Bush did try to co-op me.

01:42:43.720 If aliens could infiltrate humanity.

01:42:45.780 We'll try to co-op them.

01:42:47.040 Sure, the aliens are dying.

01:42:48.940 Hypothetically.

01:42:49.540 I didn't say that.

01:42:50.400 Hypothetically saying what would happen if we called for violence?

01:42:52.740 Hypothetically, he could be looking to avoid some hypothetical lawsuits, I think.

01:42:58.200 Yeah.

01:42:58.520 By using hypothetically all the time.

01:43:00.300 It's funny because some of them are obviously hypothetical situations.

01:43:03.680 Like, you know, hey, if X happened, how would the media react?

01:43:07.360 Like, you can use that as a tool.

01:43:08.860 Yeah.

01:43:09.280 And a lot of people do.

01:43:10.820 But some of them are just like, the Bush administration tried to co-opt me hypothetically.

01:43:15.000 Wait, what?

01:43:16.420 That doesn't really work.

01:43:18.500 No, not at all.

01:43:22.740 Glenn Beck.

01:43:35.120 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 05, 2018

'Is it ＂Ripped＂ or ＂Torn＂？' - 7⧸5⧸18

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