On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by Pat and Stu to discuss the latest poll numbers on the 2020 Democratic primary race between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Glenn also talks about why it's time to ditch your credit card and use your money to support conservative causes.
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00:16:39.160And this is going to come down to the last minute, but you've got to believe he's probably doing this first debate without even knowing for sure who his vice presidential candidate is.
00:16:49.880Did you hear what he said about drug tests?
00:17:50.600No, no, that's that's that's ridiculous.
00:17:53.920We know what we know what planet is from.
00:17:57.740No, I think it's, you know, I don't, you know, I don't know.
00:18:03.400But some sort of prescription that his doctor could give him for methamphetamines or something that juices him.
00:18:11.860Yeah, it does seem like there's something significant going on inside the veins of our president.
00:18:20.140He also because I think he can only run for a few hours without being replugged in.
00:18:24.320And you'd have to check with Disney on how long those robots can run.
00:18:27.800Right. And, you know, if you keep if you keep recharging a battery like that over, over and over and over again, they start to does not last as nearly as long by the end.
00:18:37.380So one other thing that I think is interesting here, Glenn, as far as how the electorate is changing and how potential political realignment largely fueled by Donald Trump is changing the entire way we look at these elections.
00:18:53.860If you think about the Republican Party going back, you know, as long as we can remember, there's this sort of like idea that they're for the fat cats.
00:19:01.920Right. They're the rich people. They're the people who are, you know, they own the businesses, their corporate fat cats.
00:19:08.960You know, that typical thing or the working class, that's Democrats, right?
00:19:12.960The working class voters. And so this has been pretty consistent over every presidential election we've had since at least, you know, going back almost 50 years, where if you think about this,
00:19:22.880Republicans and you divide them up by voters by income, they typically get a much higher percentage of high income voters and low income voters.
00:19:30.920Right. That's kind of known about the Republican Party. It's the it's the stereotype.
00:19:35.220So, like, go back to 1976. They got 62 percent of high income voters and 38 percent of low income voters.
00:19:42.260OK, so plus 24, 24 point margin. This if you go through every election from 1976 to 2012, they are right around that area.
00:19:52.340Yeah. Somewhere between plus 16 to plus 30. OK. Higher percentage of high income voters than low income voters.
00:20:01.820So in 2012, they're plus 19. 2016, that's Trump's first election running. It goes to plus seven.
00:20:08.900Wow. So major change again. You know, 40 years of elections. They are plus 19 or more in this measure.
00:20:16.5202016, they dropped to plus seven. 2020, it drops to plus four.
00:20:20.880And so far, the polls are showing 2024 minus six.
00:20:25.260Wow. Meaning Democrats are now performing better among high income voters and Republicans are voting are doing better among low income voters.
00:20:34.920Now, of course, Republicans have tried throughout this entire time to take this advantage away from Democrats and say, hey, we were just as good with working class voters.
00:20:44.820What are you talking about? You should be coming to our side. Of course, you try to do that.
00:20:48.720It seems to be coming, though, at the expense of high income voters.
00:20:52.100And while, you know, trading one for one voter, in theory, is not a big deal. Right.
00:20:56.920It doesn't matter. The problem is, of course, low income voters are less reliable voters.
00:21:02.080They don't vote as often and even in presidential cycles.
00:21:05.240That's why that's why we have to start saying they're going to come in and enslave you again, you know, because that's always so great.
00:21:12.680I mean, honestly, that's why the Democrats have done that for so long.
00:21:17.580Yeah. And of course, we're seeing gains with Trump among Hispanic voters, among black voters, among young voters and among lower income voters.
00:21:27.080These are all areas that have been almost impenetrable for Republicans for 50 years.
00:29:50.300Like, you're looking at two- and four-point elections right now.
00:29:53.040And we can all talk, it feels different than that, right?
00:29:57.400Like, it feels, I feel like, you look at the way Biden's performance has been.
00:30:01.080And if you just judge it solely on that factor, I don't think there's any hope that a president could possibly run under the conditions Joe Biden is running on and win outside of something that's crazy.
00:30:13.660So there's two things, and help me out, Stu, you'll remember this.
00:30:16.780I think Donald Trump was the first candidate to win all of the bellwether elections and lose the election, right?
00:30:35.520But this time, if Biden wins, he'll be the first guy to have the polling numbers that he has and the country-headed-in-the-wrong-direction numbers that he has.
00:30:54.780I mean, it will be a remarkable overthrow of everything that we know if he wins.
00:31:03.120Yeah, I just don't, I think if it were held today, I don't think he'd have much of a chance at all of winning this election.
00:31:10.000Now, of course, with six months to go, who knows what we're, we'd be talking about the invasion of aliens by then.
00:31:16.620And that might be the big story we're all on.
00:32:00.980If, and if he, if he wins and the Trump tax cuts sunset, which will happen next year, if Biden wins, that's a tax increase for every American.
00:32:16.420That is a tax hit for small businesses.
00:32:18.980Small businesses, small businesses, your taxes will go up 20%.
00:32:24.620We have now, what was the number Friday we talked about, Stu?
00:32:29.360It was like 47% or something like that of small businesses cannot fully make their rental payment.
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00:40:06.620Did you see what Mitt Romney said this weekend?
00:40:09.920Yeah, when he laughs at the term America first.
00:40:13.260I would like to ask Mr. Romney, and I mean this sincerely in a polite way.
00:40:18.720Mr. Romney, what is wrong with putting your country first, just like you have to put your family first, so you can be able to help others after your family is secure?
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01:06:38.560Let me just explain what's happened under Jerome Powell.
01:06:42.140And I hate to pick on him, but he's the Fed chairman right now.
01:06:45.780And under him, we've seen 25% of the value of the dollar disappear.
01:06:52.120Meanwhile, during COVID, the investment bankers and the Wall Street bankers had their best year ever in 2020.
01:07:00.420And we had 7% inflation during COVID, thanks to the Fed.
01:07:04.620They are – and then let me just tell you about Jerome Powell's background, because it's indicative of the kind of people that work there.
01:07:13.840He started out as an attorney, and he got into investment banking.
01:08:34.420I mean, Jerome Powell lobbies Congress and the White House to engage in more fiscal stimulus.
01:08:40.640So – and then they're working – I mean, when the Treasury gets their debt monetized by the Fed, do you think that's an independent thing?
01:08:49.160No, that's the carefully orchestrated dance, and that's what they've done here recently.
01:08:53.220There's three ways you can get money for the government to spend.
01:08:56.500You can either tax the people and take the money back, or you can borrow the money, or you can just create it out of thin air.
01:09:03.360And what they did during COVID is they created trillions of dollars out of thin air.
01:09:08.920And this is – you know, Congress is to blame as well.
01:09:11.580Congress spent those trillions of dollars.
01:09:13.940But it's the Fed that enables it, and it's the Fed that pulls it off.
01:09:18.820And it's also the Fed – this is what kills me.
01:09:23.200You know, they said that, you know, in 2008, these banks were too big to fail, and we have to stop that.
01:09:28.860And everything Congress did made these banks stronger and bigger and hurt the small banks that are not part of the Federal Reserve system, so to speak.
01:09:41.220They're not on – you know, they're not one of the owners of the Fed.
01:09:44.640And it seems to me, Thomas, that every time something is done, the American people are the ones that lose,
01:09:53.040and the banks get the money, they get richer, and in the end, it's going to be those – however, what is it, five or six or eight banks that make up the Fed.
01:11:22.280They came in and they – well, they failed because the Fed then came in with whiplash and raised rates quicker than they've ever raised them before.
01:11:31.200And then the banks were kind of in this one model.
01:11:33.740So then the Fed comes and does triage on them.
01:11:36.500So the Fed starts out as the arsonist.
01:11:39.820Then they come in and they do the firefighting by raising interest rates.
01:11:44.000And then they go in and bail out the couple of banks last year.
01:11:48.100So they're causing the problems that they come in and allegedly solve.
01:11:54.720But I think we're almost to a point now where they're running out of levers or the rubber bands that attach their levers to our macro economy are stretched as far as they'll stretch.
01:12:05.480Because right now they're not really in control of interest rates.
01:12:10.020They might like to think they can lower the interest rate to stimulate the economy again.
01:12:15.920But the problem is when they – recently, when they put treasuries out for auction, the sovereign funds, the other countries that oftentimes buy our debt, said, you know what?
01:12:27.240At 4.5%, I don't think that's a good bargain.
01:12:32.820Would you – honestly, if you had – you were in charge of a bank or you were making loans as a private individual and you had somebody who came in and ran their life the way our Congress runs our country,
01:12:49.880what kind of interest rate would you demand from them that you would think it's worth taking the risk for that?
01:12:57.500Yeah, I mean, it would be easy, easy in the double digits and most likely in the mid-double digits for me.
01:13:08.340Yeah, and the other thing is then we try to inflate our debt down.
01:13:12.900In other words, we devalue our currency so it changes the impact of, let's say, the nominal price of our debt in gold if you could find some outside reference.
01:13:22.620So the Fed kind of – and the Treasury kind of likes inflation.
01:13:28.440The big guys don't care because, like we saw during COVID, they just reprice everything on Wall Street, and then the other assets, the Fed will prop up by buying them.
01:13:37.380So they make sure that the rich people can survive through inflation.
01:13:40.960The poor people can't or even the middle class can't because you don't have these sort of financial instruments that everybody else has that the Fed takes care of.
01:13:49.820And so it's – and then the Fed is, when they cause inflation, they solve a little bit of the debt problem.
01:13:58.400But the problem is we're getting to a point where it's not going to work anymore.
01:14:03.060For a while, we had inflation that was greater than the interest rate we were paying on the debt.
01:14:08.180So you can see, actually, if people will take your debt at those low interest rates and inflation is that high, you should probably take on more debt.
01:14:18.140I mean, I hate to say it, but they're wising up in the rest of the world.
01:14:22.140Now, here's something else that happens.
01:14:24.140The U.S. dollar is the reserve currency.
01:14:27.160I mean, we've mucked with it, but not so much that people don't want it yet.
01:14:53.460We're kind of like the credit card gets 3% of all the transaction at the gas station.
01:14:58.180We get that 3% if we create 3% more money every year, which we typically do.
01:15:04.080But the rest of the world is getting tired of being used that way.
01:15:08.220They're tired of our transaction fees, i.e., our inflation.
01:15:12.000And when they start using alternate forms of money to do their transactions or holding different assets in their own sovereign wealth funds,
01:15:23.620then we're not going to be able to do that trick on anybody except for U.S. citizens.
01:15:29.060And again, this is all coming to a head.
01:15:32.020Thomas, I said this a while back, probably 15 years ago.
01:15:37.660When this actually happens, we are going to be labeled –
01:15:42.620because no politician in any other country is going to take responsibility for their own fiscal madness.
01:15:49.800Everybody's going to blame it on the United States because we were greedy, grotesque,
01:15:54.920and took on so much debt that we devalued the dollar, and it's going to affect the entire world.
01:16:02.260And, you know, I relate it, and I know it's for different reasons in some way,
01:16:07.200but I look at the way Germany looked at France at the end of World War I and the beginning of World War II
01:16:17.480is I think the way the rest of the world is going to look at us.
01:16:20.380We forced – we didn't – France forced Germany into just devastation where they had to inflate their dollar.
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01:25:43.720Let's say something bad happened, something really bad, like the kind of bad where you're going to need emergency food for a few days or weeks or even maybe longer than that.
01:25:51.900Are you prepared for something like that?
01:25:54.420When the lines of the grocery store are stretching out into the street and the grocery store shelves begin to look like they used to in the Soviet Union, is your family, are you going to be in line?
01:27:25.740Remember, he's the key witness in this Donald Trump trial with Stormy Daniels.
01:27:32.260Without Cohen, there isn't even a case to be brought.
01:27:36.220You have to believe Cohen because much of the evidence that you would need to make Donald Trump into the bad guy here is specifically based on things that Cohen has said or done and has sole knowledge of.
01:27:54.560He's the guy who, if he dropped dead, hit by a bus, the whole thing would be gone.
01:28:02.420And, you know, just to remind listeners, the Michael Cohen situation is not a good one.
01:28:10.680It was never a good one even when Trump was there.
01:28:12.280I believe he won our least reliable human being on earth competition for five straight years.
01:28:17.360So he is not reliable and was not reliable back then, is not reliable now.
01:28:22.740The media has just decided to try to rehabilitate him because they need him for this case.
01:28:27.520So Todd Blanche, the attorney for Trump, is questioning and going after Michael Cohen to try to make him look as credible as he actually is, which is not at all.
01:28:38.920And he went to him and talked to him about a specific transaction with a company called Red Finch.
01:28:44.780Red Finch was an IT kind of company that Michael Cohen was dealing with.
01:28:50.620And what they were doing with this company at the time is somewhat embarrassing, I suppose.
01:28:55.120They were trying to get, they were trying to rig online polls in Trump's favor.
01:29:00.580So if you remember about the time these polls would come out, who do you think is, who should win the Republican nomination?
01:29:07.240This is in the, you know, 2016 election.
01:29:09.300And Trump would win overwhelmingly, even when he wasn't winning in the normal polls,
01:29:13.200he would win overwhelmingly on every online poll.
01:30:41.280They, it's interesting, the reporting on it, it's a little hard to tell whether he actually said this, or whether he just sort of agreed to it.
01:30:48.420But, he was, Blanche, the attorney, brought up the possibility of him having the money in either a duffel bag, or a brown paper bag.
01:31:17.720He then tries to really focus this, because what you said is true.
01:31:20.860Of course, you, if you are an employee of a company, or you're working with a company, and you charge someone $50,000, and then pocket $30,000, that's what we would all recognize as theft, right?
01:31:56.320So, the Trump attorney says, and tries to get this down, and like, get everyone to understand this, because in case people don't understand, this is stealing.
01:32:05.680He says, quote, you stole from the Trump organization, right?
01:32:11.700He, by the way, was, Cohen was reimbursed for about $100,000 in these expenses, because he was always getting double the expenses for taxes.
01:32:25.600Like, what do you mean he was getting double for taxes?
01:32:28.400So, he was getting, like, if he took $50,000 to do one of these shady dealings, like he did with Stormy Daniels.
01:32:34.820Okay, all right, he had to pay the taxes on it.
01:32:36.980Yeah, the Trump organization would pay him basically double, so that Cohen wouldn't get stuck with the tax bill.
01:32:41.980So, Cohen would pay the taxes as if it was income, and then he would still be left over with the same amount he paid to Stormy Daniels, or, in this case, this IT organization.
01:32:54.740So, the quote is, you stole from the Trump organization, right?
01:33:11.540Yes, jurors have heard that he has lied to Congress, tax authorities, and on the witness stand, and now they are hearing that he stole from the Trump organization.
01:33:33.760I mean, I don't know how you could possibly believe this guy anyway.
01:33:37.340You know, some of the stuff, like if there are text messages or other people supporting it, maybe you could say, all right, well, he's telling the story.
01:33:46.600There are a few other pieces of evidence that agree with it.
01:33:48.740And that has happened on some points during this case.
01:33:52.720But generally speaking, they are relying almost solely on Michael Cohen to be the voice of credibility.
01:33:59.180And now we know that not only does he lie to everyone else in his life, by the way, including his wife, we didn't even include that in the list, who he lied to when he took out all of this money on a second mortgage and tried to hide it from her by his own admission.
01:34:12.900He's admitted to lying to all of these people.
01:34:15.940Basically, you're supposed to believe that he has taken every moment of his entire life and filled it with lies with every person he's ever dealt with, except this one moment where he's sitting in front of you on the witness stand.
01:34:34.100I think this is a political version of what happened to OJ Simpson, and I hope it doesn't turn that way, you know, in the end, but if they find him guilty, it will be exactly what happened with the OJ Simpson case, except this is political, not racial.
01:34:58.000The jury hates him, Donald Trump, so much that no matter what the facts say, they'll deem him guilty, where OJ Simpson, the jurors wanted a black man to beat the system, beat the man so badly that they admit it now.
01:35:20.440They voted for not guilty, even though they believed the facts led to guilty.
01:35:29.880I hope that doesn't happen, but that's what this feels like to me, because it's in New York, any other place, but in New York, can you get, with this judge, can you get a trial that, with jurors, enough jurors,
01:35:49.020to tell the truth, to tell the truth, and by the way, just like, do you remember, were you old enough to remember the OJ Simpson trial?
01:35:59.260So, um, so, um, OJ Simpson, if you remember right, there was speculation, can the trial, can the jurors ever identify themselves if they find him guilty?
01:36:13.880Because the black community, because the black community was so for OJ Simpson, and I would ask the same thing, can these jurors, all from New York City, can they live a normal life and not, and live without danger if they release him?
01:36:36.200Um, because I'm certainly not going to get invited to many parties.
01:36:47.680You do, isn't there a moment here for you, Glenn, where you think a little bit about just the legal system and the fact that it's supposed to work, and that we have a tradition of people judging these things honestly?
01:36:59.780Isn't there at least a possibility that, of a hung jury, isn't there one or two people on this jury maybe that look at this and take this as a joke?
01:37:24.900Um, hopefully we can pray that there is one person, I mean, assuming we're not in the jury room, but what it looks like here, this is, this is a, this is an assault on our, uh, judicial system.
01:37:43.420Just like I think OJ Simpson was an assault on the judicial system.
01:37:48.380I understood that one a little more because the black man had been, you know, just raped in our judicial system for so long that I kind of, it was still a travesty and awful and I hated it, but you could see it.
01:38:51.920I mean, it doesn't, it, man, I, it's just, it's, if you have any faith in the legal system and look, people, criminals do go to jail in New York.
01:39:18.040I mean, they don't charge anybody in New York for crimes anymore unless your last name is Trump.
01:39:22.100But I mean, over, you know, if you think about the average person in, in New York, again, remember the Trump attorneys had a chance to throw out anyone they thought was massively on massively liberal and against Trump.
01:39:37.160They did their best to find people they thought they would be treated fairly by.
01:39:41.760I mean, if we are really at the point where they can't find anyone to judge this rationally, we are at a real crossroads as far as our legal system goes entirely.
01:40:03.200Sadly, no matter how much we want it not to happen, there comes a day when a first responder, a police officer, a firefighter, a military service member just doesn't come home.
01:40:15.220Or maybe they do come home and they're so severely injured that their lives and the lives of their families are never the same again.
01:40:28.480For catastrophically injured veterans and first responders, they build mortgage-free smart homes, allowing these heroes to move around more independently and more financially securely.
01:40:41.100Their homeless veteran program, which is an absolute, well, it's a miracle, but it's a dishonor of our country that we have homeless veterans while we are housing illegals by the millions.
01:40:56.420They have helped over 3,300 homeless veterans last year alone.
01:41:33.920I want to talk a little bit about the Ayatollah, what happened in Iran this weekend.
01:41:54.160And the guy who was supposed to replace the Ayatollah Khomeini, he is the main guy that has been behind all of the really oppressive stuff with women and everything else.
01:42:07.920He was in a helicopter crash, gosh darn it, and died.
01:42:13.260Let's just take a moment to, you know, honor him.
01:42:25.040I mean, there is rumor, and it's just strictly rumor, that he had information on the other unnamed grandchild of Joe Biden from Hunter and Hillary.
01:42:40.100But I don't put a lot of stock into that one.
01:42:45.420I think there's a possibility this was done by the IRGC because the Ayatollah Khomeini, who is getting old, his son is the one who's supposed to follow him.
01:42:59.500This guy was probably, if you can say this, more popular because the Iranian people don't like a dynasty.
01:43:29.240She's in fourth and fifth grade class, and they're so good, they had to have them play sixth and seventh graders.
01:43:39.820And she was up for the main tournament, and she is the goalie, and it was unbelievable.
01:43:48.720They went into double overtime, and then they went into this insane kickoff thing where they kick it, you know, the five best kickers kick into the goal.
01:44:15.720But I have to tell you, she, I was so proud of her, and her team, and her team members all came around, they were all crying, you know, they're all little girls.
01:44:25.760And they were all crying, and they were hugging each other, and they were all saying, you know, we played our best, and we did the right thing, and we played fair.
01:44:36.340And we were playing seventh graders, and we're in the fourth and fifth grade.
01:44:42.900And it was just an amazing thing to watch, and I just wanted to congratulate Lorelai and her team, the Bees, which I think should be called the Killer Bees next year.
01:44:52.300I'm just saying, because this is the third year in a row they've been in the championships.
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01:47:14.960If you stop listening to the media and all of the, you know, ivory tower people, if you just go across the country and you meet people, your view of America is entirely different.
01:47:29.140I read a book because I was forced to because of one of the best writers on my staff.
01:47:39.400He wrote a book and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:47:42.280Last time, the last book he released, it was number one Christmas title, wasn't it?
01:49:50.220And we'll discuss your possible inheritance.
01:49:55.180He has no idea what it means or anything else.
01:49:58.740He ends up going to meet with his grandfather.
01:50:01.460And his grandfather gives him a quest.
01:50:03.440And, like I said, if you've ever traveled America, you get the real understanding of America.
01:50:13.600So, Nathan, what is the request from the grandpa?
01:50:16.160Yeah, it's a unique deal that his grandson, Tom, is really in no position to refuse.
01:50:23.180He's got a mountain of student loan debt and doesn't really know what he's going to do with his life.
01:50:27.380And the opportunity is he could earn potentially a multimillion-dollar inheritance if and only if he will do this cross-country road trip.
01:50:38.780And he has to follow an itinerary designed by the grandfather to, you know, try to alter his grandson's very cynical view of America.
01:50:48.600And so, the grandfather kind of being into history, and he's Tom's political polar opposite.
01:50:55.900So, he's very conservative, believes in America, the American dream, loves history.
01:51:01.800And so, he sends him to various historical sites, some natural wonders, and has him meet with some friends of his that he knows will challenge Tom's, you know, worldview,
01:51:12.960which is very left-wing, kind of the typical thing that we hear all the time in daily headlines, right, of the left's view of America's past, present, and future, which is—
01:51:24.080And what I like about him is he's—I mean, you know, he'll date a Marxist and even go there.
01:51:30.180But he is definitely not in love with America and definitely a leftist.
01:51:35.920But he's not—he's not an activist who just is insane and—you know what I mean?
01:52:06.360But he knows—he still doesn't have—you know, he's sort of agnostic, maybe atheist.
01:52:11.960He doesn't really know what he believes.
01:52:13.260And so, he does have that one key, and I think this is one of the main messages of the book, at least I hope, is an allusion to Benjamin Franklin,
01:52:22.440something that he said during the Constitutional Convention, you know, this idea that you've got to have your mind cracked open, that you might be wrong about some things, right?
01:52:32.060And so, he does—he's at least—Tom is at least gifted with that, that he has just enough of an open mind that even though he's very resistant to this trip,
01:52:42.540the whole way through and everything, it's open enough that he may have it filled with something that he might not expect.
01:52:48.980So, this is one of those books, and honestly, Nathan, I couldn't put it down.
01:53:26.660And this one, I'm sure, was an outgrowth, obviously, of working here and the stuff that we deal with every day with headlines
01:53:32.320and kind of the worst news about America, right, and trying to balance it with principles and what we believe about the potential of America.
01:53:41.000But it was, you know, it was also this stuff that has been in the culture for the last few years of what is America—what's the story that America is going to tell about itself, right?
01:53:53.680You know, the grandfather character at one point in the book tells his grandson that a nation cannot thrive on shame, and I truly believe that.
01:54:02.060You know, you can't continue to hammer this America is irredeemably bad, racist, and the whole nine yards, and survive.
01:54:13.380Obviously, and you talk about this all the time, but you can't ignore the bad stuff, and boys, there are plenty.
01:54:19.800I mean, there's some days I'm just ashamed of stuff that you learned that we've done in our past that we're doing now.
01:54:25.580It's awful, but it's not the whole story, right?
01:54:30.400And so this was kind of my way of addressing those things that were frustrating me, and I think a lot of people, a lot of like-minded conservatives have that frustration of, what are we witnessing here?
01:54:42.840You know, sometimes it feels like you have a front-row seat to sort of the end of the republic, and that's not the case.
01:54:48.100It's not inevitable that that's the way it goes, right?
01:54:51.620And so this is sort of my pushback against that culture.
01:54:55.100How did you get into the, I mean, for the, I mean, reading the first chapter, and I'm like, Nathan, this audience is not going to like this, because it's right in the mind of the leftist.
01:55:17.500How did you capture that so accurately?
01:55:24.020Well, I mean, honestly, it's probably mostly the graduate school of working here.
01:55:30.080And we're, you know, we get so much of this stuff all the time that it just, you just understand it, you know, and it's, you understand the mindset, you understand what their goals are.
01:55:40.380And, you know, several years ago, Jonathan Haidt, I think, wrote about this, the fact that there's some academic research bearing out the fact that conservatives generally understand the positions of the left much better than the left understands the positions of the right.
01:55:56.140So I wouldn't say that I knew all this stuff eight years ago that I understood the leftist mindset as well.
01:56:03.720But goodness, we get so much of it here that it just, after a while, it's kind of second nature.
01:56:09.620Well, I have to tell you, I found it refreshing and inspirational in ways.
01:56:14.340And I don't know who you're targeting.
01:56:16.240Are you hoping that this will be passed on to people who maybe don't have a completely closed mind, but maybe haven't gone to college yet and haven't completely wiped clean?
01:56:45.080I would say more high school graduates, college graduates on up, adults of all ages.
01:56:49.900But that was kind of the mindset, you know, that something that I could pass on and hopefully help young people on either side, really, if they're willing to pick it up, to be able to understand what's going on in our politics, what drives each side, and help them think for themselves.
01:57:55.540No, but he's not only—not only writes every other program, but he has—Jason has taken on a little extra because he's also writing a new series for me that will be audio only.
01:58:39.020And Nathan, with his degree in history and his curious mind, we've just put together an amazing limited series, and that's coming out here in a few weeks as well.