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00:02:57.440 Hello, America.

00:03:02.500 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:03:04.160 We have a lot on Charlie Kirk on what's happening this week.

00:03:07.800 What happened last week, we have some information now

00:03:10.720 about what the FBI did, how they found this guy so quickly.

00:03:14.820 It was a hint due to you, the public.

00:03:17.680 Cash Patel decided to do something and break with FBI protocol

00:03:24.400 and involve the citizenry.

00:03:27.640 And it was just like 12 hours later that we had the guy in custody

00:03:32.800 because of the American people.

00:03:34.740 We'll have more on that and who this guy really was coming up in just a minute.

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00:04:44.340 Welcome to the program, Mr. Stu Bergeer and Jason Buttrill,

00:04:48.380 who is joining us this hour to give us an update on a few things.

00:04:51.100 Hello, Stu.

00:04:51.720 Hey, Glenn. How's it going?

00:04:53.560 It was good. How was your weekend?

00:04:55.240 Good.

00:04:55.480 You had a pretty busy weekend up at the ranch, I saw.

00:04:59.440 Yeah.

00:05:00.320 Yeah, I did.

00:05:01.960 We did like a little fireside at my house.

00:05:06.460 We invited about 20 people.

00:05:09.380 It ended up being about 70 people, I think.

00:05:11.340 Jason, was that about right, at the house last night?

00:05:13.420 Yeah.

00:05:13.480 And I took them through history, and it was for the youth.

00:05:24.100 It's weird because I did one last week with the youth,

00:05:27.600 and we had about 40 people there last week.

00:05:30.480 And this one was very different.

00:05:32.960 You know, the Charlie Kirk thing put a whole different feel on it.

00:05:36.560 And we talked about what it is to be a martyr, you know,

00:05:43.100 what our political underpinnings are, why this matters.

00:05:48.040 Had a great conversation with these kids, really, really sharp, sharp kids.

00:05:51.760 I mean, Erica Kirk said it right.

00:05:54.560 You have no idea what you've unleashed.

00:05:56.500 You have no idea.

00:05:57.820 The shooter and the left, they just don't know.

00:06:00.880 And it's not a movement of anger at all.

00:06:05.060 It was, I saw determination, and I have in the last few days, online and in person.

00:06:13.140 It's just determination.

00:06:14.040 It's not, I'm not sitting down now.

00:06:16.120 There's no way I'm sitting down.

00:06:17.540 What do I have to do?

00:06:18.580 I'm here, Lord.

00:06:20.080 What do you need me to do?

00:06:22.680 And it's remarkable.

00:06:24.920 But I posted some stuff just a few minutes ago.

00:06:28.440 All of the participants in it were under, what, 19, I think.

00:06:34.040 And we went out at the very end, we went out to our front gate,

00:06:38.240 where we have a flag flying, and it was at half staff.

00:06:41.860 And that ended yesterday at 6 p.m.

00:06:45.000 And so I brought everybody out, and we stood around the flagpole

00:06:48.520 and raised the flag to two young guys, raised the flag.

00:06:54.460 Another kid who was just really just this great kid plays the trumpet.

00:07:00.980 And like two hours before, I'm like, hey, can you play taps?

00:07:04.240 And he's like, ah, I don't know, I think.

00:07:07.000 And so he played taps, and it was really a moving thing.

00:07:10.340 And I know there were people that did stuff like this all over the country

00:07:14.000 over the weekend.

00:07:15.620 Huge turnout all over the country.

00:07:18.100 Yeah.

00:07:18.580 There's been a couple times this week where I was like, Glenn,

00:07:22.600 let's not do this right now.

00:07:24.680 Let's, you know, just for security purposes,

00:07:27.080 let's maybe take a step back a little bit.

00:07:29.580 And I'm glad you did not on both occasions because what happened yesterday

00:07:36.720 is exactly what we should be doing,

00:07:40.100 is exactly what Charlie Kirk would want us to do.

00:07:43.320 And you put it in context with what happened with Charlie.

00:07:48.500 And you've mentioned this.

00:07:50.780 I've thought about it.

00:07:52.000 And the only time I've seen something or witnessed something like what happened

00:07:56.020 last night was going to a church in northern Iraq and seeing and talking to

00:08:03.220 the people that had just gotten attacked by ISIS.

00:08:05.920 Now, those people stared, you know, evil in the face.

00:08:09.080 Yeah, we were told ISIS, by ISIS, we were told ISIS was going to hit this church

00:08:13.000 at 7 p.m.

00:08:14.580 And they had a mass at 7 p.m. at that church.

00:08:17.900 And I'm flying in from New York and I get onto the ground.

00:08:20.620 It's about 5.30.

00:08:21.520 And I said, so where are we meeting?

00:08:23.120 And my security said, at the church.

00:08:26.320 And I'm like, excuse me, what?

00:08:28.480 And at the church.

00:08:29.620 And at 7 o'clock, mass started.

00:08:31.860 And it was packed.

00:08:33.160 And ISIS wasn't fooling around.

00:08:34.720 They were like, we are going to kill everyone in that church at 7 p.m.

00:08:38.720 And I walked in and I saw these people celebrating Christ.

00:08:42.880 And it was like, it was insane.

00:08:44.900 I'd never seen anything like it.

00:08:46.820 And I talked to them afterwards.

00:08:48.460 And I'm like, how do you, I mean, this wouldn't have happened in America.

00:08:52.060 We wouldn't have gone.

00:08:53.120 We would have gone someplace else.

00:08:54.280 And they said, what do we have to lose?

00:08:56.220 We have everything to gain.

00:08:57.200 They kill us.

00:08:57.780 We go to heaven.

00:08:58.920 We're fine with that.

00:09:00.180 We'd rather be with Jesus, you know.

00:09:02.820 We're not giving it up.

00:09:03.940 And I thought, Americans have never had to stand for their faith.

00:09:08.660 We've never really had to stand for our faith.

00:09:10.940 Faith and action is what I saw out there in Iraq.

00:09:14.540 And faith and action is what I saw last night.

00:09:17.680 The looks I remember seeing on the children in northern Iraq, where literally it was life

00:09:22.640 and death, their faith was everything, was what I saw from those kids last night.

00:09:26.540 As you told them about American history, put everything into context.

00:09:30.160 You talked about martyrs.

00:09:31.340 You walked them through from the first Bible that was printed, brought over from England,

00:09:38.940 over to hear what it took, and then the struggles that our founders took to ensure that the

00:09:44.700 citizenry will be defenders of speech, defenders of freedom.

00:09:49.840 And you took them all the way through it, showing them the documents.

00:09:51.980 Their eyes were glued on you the entire time.

00:09:55.800 I was like, this is exactly, exactly what we should be doing to carry on this torch and

00:10:01.720 this legacy.

00:10:02.500 And we saw it everywhere from NFL stadiums yesterday.

00:10:06.760 Yeah, everywhere.

00:10:07.520 This ranch, all over social media saying, I'm going to church for the first time in my life.

00:10:13.440 Baseball.

00:10:14.480 Oh, my gosh.

00:10:15.920 NASCAR.

00:10:16.820 I mean, it was everywhere this weekend.

00:10:18.900 I mean, America has changed.

00:10:20.720 It was a turning point.

00:10:22.280 It was a turning point.

00:10:24.060 Last night, I was talking about martyrs, and I talked about Abraham Lincoln.

00:10:28.060 And I read to the kids the Gettysburg Address, and I thought, if this isn't appropriate for

00:10:39.200 today, Gettysburg Address, four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this

00:10:44.500 continent a new nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all of

00:10:48.880 men are created equal.

00:10:50.600 Now we're engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived

00:10:56.840 and so dedicated can long endure.

00:10:59.320 Is that not what we're doing right now?

00:11:01.740 We're in a cold war right now.

00:11:03.640 It was hot last week.

00:11:05.020 I pray that it doesn't continue to be hot.

00:11:07.980 But we're in a cold war.

00:11:09.680 And isn't that what we're debating right now?

00:11:13.220 Whether a nation so conceived that all men are created equal and can rule themselves, whether

00:11:20.500 that can endure, whether that can survive.

00:11:23.340 We are not met on a battlefield.

00:11:25.400 We now meet on a battlefield of that war.

00:11:27.760 We've come to dedicate a portion of that field, yada, yada, yada.

00:11:30.520 But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate.

00:11:33.700 We cannot consecrate.

00:11:34.740 We cannot hallow this ground.

00:11:36.840 The brave men living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor

00:11:41.920 power to add or detract.

00:11:43.740 Think of that as what Charlie Kirk did.

00:11:47.580 How can we do anything that elevates that act?

00:11:54.720 It's that act.

00:11:55.860 It's not where it happened.

00:11:57.480 It's nothing.

00:11:58.460 It's that act.

00:11:59.760 What he did makes everything else pale in comparison.

00:12:05.080 The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what

00:12:10.880 they did here.

00:12:12.140 It is for us, the living, rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they

00:12:17.500 fought and have so far nobly advanced.

00:12:22.120 Think of that.

00:12:25.960 Nobody's going to remember anything I said.

00:12:27.920 Nobody's going to remember anybody anybody says.

00:12:29.760 Nobody's going to remember anything that was said at the eulogy.

00:12:31.820 You might remember his wife's words.

00:12:36.280 Those were powerful.

00:12:38.200 But that is because that's part of the struggle that he just, he did.

00:12:43.320 That's part of it.

00:12:44.840 That's part of him.

00:12:47.500 Everybody else is just nothing but words.

00:12:49.700 Nobody's going to remember any of this.

00:12:52.720 But we have to dedicate ourselves to the unfinished work.

00:12:57.420 It's rather for us here to be dedicated to the great task remaining before us that from

00:13:04.100 this honored dead, these honored dead, we take increased devotion to that cause for which

00:13:09.280 they gave their last full measure of devotion and that we here highly resolve that he will

00:13:15.060 not have died in vain and that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom and

00:13:20.440 that the government of the people by the people and for the people shall not perish from the

00:13:24.020 earth.

00:13:24.180 Do you know why we won the civil war?

00:13:26.680 Do you know what happened right after this?

00:13:29.160 Abraham Lincoln said, I'm not a Christian.

00:13:31.880 He wasn't.

00:13:32.540 His father was a horrible, horrible guy.

00:13:35.900 Used to beat the scriptures into him.

00:13:38.280 You know, those kind.

00:13:39.280 They get drunk and then take the belt.

00:13:42.020 And little Abraham Lincoln, six, seven, eight years old, he would get in trouble and his dad

00:13:46.800 would get drunk and he would take his belt and he would whip him while quoting the scriptures.

00:13:53.920 Well, there's nothing that makes somebody want to be a Christian more than that.

00:13:58.340 And so Abraham Lincoln rejected Christianity.

00:14:01.220 He rejected it entirely.

00:14:02.760 Um, and he said later in life, he said, when I was, when I, when I was, um, uh, when I became

00:14:12.800 president, I wasn't really a Christian.

00:14:15.380 Now there's some debate on that because he studied the Bible.

00:14:19.260 He knew the Bible.

00:14:20.020 He preached it in, in services before he became president.

00:14:23.600 Um, but in his own words, I wasn't really a Christian when I was elected, when my son

00:14:29.820 died, I wasn't a Christian.

00:14:32.280 I didn't become a Christian until Gettysburg.

00:14:36.960 Now we think of Gettysburg, Gettysburg happened in the summer and we think, oh, then Abraham

00:14:41.720 Lincoln went up there right after, or he went up a couple of months later and, you know,

00:14:45.360 after they cleared out all the fields and buried all the dead, the dead still wasn't,

00:14:50.100 they weren't buried.

00:14:50.800 It happened in the summer.

00:14:51.700 He comes in November and they were still stacking bodies up like cordwood.

00:14:58.420 Imagine the scene, imagine the smell of Gettysburg.

00:15:04.120 He says, that's when I became a Christian.

00:15:08.080 How many people on earth this last week became a Christian on the killing field?

00:15:15.300 They saw Charlie Kirk and they thought, you know, I wasn't a Christian before, but I think

00:15:19.760 I understand what it means to be a Christian today.

00:15:23.080 Abraham Lincoln, that event brought him to his knees where he begged the Lord and said,

00:15:27.780 what do you, what do you want?

00:15:29.220 What is it you want?

00:15:30.700 I'll do it.

00:15:31.900 Just tell me.

00:15:32.880 We were losing the war like crazy.

00:15:36.600 He issues a proclamation and a, and a request for the nation to go into prayer, fasting, and

00:15:43.760 humiliation, meaning asking God for forgiveness for all of our sins.

00:15:48.020 And he basically said, you know, look, if, if the Lord wants every, every drop of blood

00:15:54.240 that was drawn by the lash to be, uh, to be compensated for by taking all of our treasure

00:16:02.000 and putting it up on a big pile and, and all of us have to pay for it, not just in physical,

00:16:09.220 uh, cash or treasure, but also with our own blood, then God is just whatever God wants.

00:16:16.920 He's just, this was wrong.

00:16:18.960 We did it.

00:16:20.340 Let's pray fast and beg for forgiveness.

00:16:24.140 That's how we won.

00:16:25.760 That's how we won.

00:16:26.560 It was the moment of Gettysburg and I contend this may be the moment of Gettysburg in our

00:16:33.760 generation.

00:16:34.740 This may be it because you've seen it.

00:16:38.740 You're seeing, I asked Grok last night, I said, scour, uh, scour social media and tell

00:16:45.600 me, is there a difference between the left and the right on the way they're talking about

00:16:52.180 Charlie Kirk and is there, is there an increase of people talking about God in a positive way,

00:16:59.660 turning, uh, turning over their life to God?

00:17:02.960 Grok said huge since Charlie's Kirk, Charlie Kirk, huge, big difference between the left

00:17:08.080 and right.

00:17:08.460 One is talking about revenge and politics and the other one is generally speaking, it did

00:17:13.700 point out that there are bad guys on both sides, but generally speaking, um, uh, the right

00:17:20.200 is talking about God and coming back together, uniting, trying to stand against evil, um, in

00:17:27.800 peaceful ways.

00:17:29.480 That's new.

00:17:30.960 That's new.

00:17:32.020 And the number of people who are saying I'm committing to Christ, I'm going to church,

00:17:36.900 I'm going to change.

00:17:37.980 Do you know the number of, I think it was Saturday or Friday.

00:17:41.820 I heard 36,000 new TP, uh, USA, uh, charters for, for, uh, colleges.

00:17:50.140 I think it's in the 70,000 range.

00:17:52.480 Now it's sweeping the nation.

00:17:56.140 It is sweeping the world.

00:17:57.960 Did you see in South Korea, people chanting Charlie Kirk, I am Charlie Kirk happening over

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00:19:47.540 So, Stu, have you seen, um, the stuff from Tyler Robinson?

00:20:07.320 He's the killer.

00:20:08.620 Um, he was joking with his friends on discord saying, this is my doppelganger.

00:20:13.880 And the reason why he was saying that was because the FBI released the photos of him and everybody

00:20:21.540 started to see it.

00:20:23.080 That was breaking with FBI protocol.

00:20:26.380 Usually they don't do that.

00:20:27.780 Apparently, um, they don't want to tip the person off that they're getting close.

00:20:32.260 And, um, cash Patel said on, when was it Thursday?

00:20:37.360 We have it.

00:20:38.640 Why are we holding it?

00:20:40.460 They said, well, you could just do, you could let them know that we're getting close.

00:20:43.260 And he's like getting close.

00:20:44.940 We're not close.

00:20:46.480 We want to be right up close and personal with putting the handcuffs on him, release it.

00:20:51.700 And so the FBI released it and, and said, if you know, this person, give us information

00:20:58.160 led to an overwhelming vat of information coming in.

00:21:02.680 And within 12 hours, they had him.

00:21:05.700 That's there.

00:21:06.580 There's, that's a huge difference in the FBI, huge difference in the FBI.

00:21:10.900 But then he goes on to, uh, say, this is my doppelganger.

00:21:14.540 And people were like, yeah, it looks like you dude.

00:21:17.440 Um, you better hide the gun.

00:21:20.380 And he was, he was on saying, yeah, it's a guy from California.

00:21:23.580 I bet it's a California, definitely not me.

00:21:26.060 And it was him.

00:21:28.000 Yeah.

00:21:28.580 I mean, he tried to cover his tracks, I suppose.

00:21:31.640 Uh, yeah, I mean, it makes sense to release these photos of the second that you have them.

00:21:35.960 I mean, in a situation like that, remember this is what 33 hours, which isn't in the

00:21:41.880 grand scheme of things that long of a time that felt endless.

00:21:45.120 Uh, but he was hundreds of miles away.

00:21:46.980 Right.

00:21:47.560 I mean, he, this was not a situation where he, you know, once you get off that, the,

00:21:52.880 the area where, um, where an incident like this occurs, it gets really, really hard to

00:21:59.040 track somebody down, uh, unless people have an idea of what they're looking for.

00:22:03.520 And that seems to be pretty obvious to, I think most people, I'm glad they did it the

00:22:08.320 right way there.

00:22:09.180 And, and that does seem to be the reason they found this guy, right?

00:22:14.040 Like, you know, everyone's talking about, well, I mean, come on.

00:22:16.960 Uh, the dad turned him in like, what, what do you mean?

00:22:20.120 This is great police work.

00:22:21.300 Well, there's an element of, of great police work that led to that, right?

00:22:24.480 Where if you don't have all those photos, if you don't have those, that imagery that goes

00:22:28.240 out, the, the parents don't see it.

00:22:29.900 They don't recognize them.

00:22:31.060 They don't encourage him, uh, to, and, you know, seemingly, uh, call in, you know, I'm

00:22:37.360 not sure to do either of you guys know, did he actually, was he fine with turning himself

00:22:43.540 in?

00:22:43.920 Because he's not participating.

00:22:45.960 He's not.

00:22:46.920 No, he, he, he said he would rather die than turn himself in.

00:22:50.400 Apparently.

00:22:51.100 Right.

00:22:51.440 The father tried to encourage him to do that.

00:22:54.100 The, the, he said he would kill himself.

00:22:55.920 They eventually brought in a minister.

00:22:57.560 It's a little, it's a little shaky around this area with the details, but they brought

00:23:01.500 in a minister that helped, I guess, talk to him.

00:23:03.320 And it seems like initially to someone, uh, a family friend or something called in the

00:23:10.140 actual confession, uh, that brought them there.

00:23:13.500 So it's a little bit interesting on how it happened.

00:23:15.960 We don't have all those details, uh, quite yet, but, uh, it was the pictures that alerted

00:23:22.040 the parents and, and a relative to say, Hey, that this looks like your kid.

00:23:26.060 And that's how that all started.

00:23:28.380 So there is motivation possibly next.

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00:25:11.880 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:25:15.440 The vice president today is going to be doing the Charlie Kirk show directly following this

00:25:21.100 broadcast, uh, from 12 to two.

00:25:24.220 Um, and he's going to be, uh, I think he's doing it from Washington, DC.

00:25:30.160 You know, it's, it's going to be hard to secure TP USA for something like the vice president.

00:25:35.820 Um, but he'll be doing it, uh, today, uh, two hours on air on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:25:42.000 Uh, I'm going to be doing it Wednesday from, uh, TP USA.

00:25:46.360 You can watch the Charlie Kirk show on the charliekirk show.com, uh, rumble and also on his X account

00:25:53.280 or America's voice network.

00:25:56.180 Um, but, uh, make sure you join us.

00:25:58.360 I found out today that they're not announcing.

00:26:01.000 I know who else is doing it this week.

00:26:03.760 It's an incredible roster.

00:26:05.840 Um, and, uh, they're not announcing it for security reasons.

00:26:09.340 Uh, and, uh, well, I wish I would have thought of that before I said something, but, uh, you know, um, and they're

00:26:19.360 still doing the campus things.

00:26:21.340 I mean, I find that amazing.

00:26:24.880 Uh, how are you going to make that thing?

00:26:26.640 You're not doing it outside.

00:26:27.620 That's for sure.

00:26:28.880 Are you making those secure and who's going to do it?

00:26:31.800 I was supposed to be with Charlie in two weeks, I think, uh, on one of these campuses.

00:26:36.240 And I don't, I mean, I said to Charlie, I don't have the temperament for that one.

00:26:40.840 Charlie, I, I'm not, I get tested fast.

00:26:46.380 Uh, I don't, I don't, uh, I have a hard time with stupidity.

00:26:50.900 Um, but Charlie didn't.

00:26:52.360 I mean, Charlie was able to sit there through it and really talk to people.

00:26:56.060 And that's not me.

00:26:56.840 I just don't do that.

00:26:58.500 Um, but I don't know.

00:27:00.160 They're, they're still doing them.

00:27:01.280 So I don't know if I know my daughter does not want me to go.

00:27:04.920 Um, but, uh, was that something that developed over time, Glenn, for Charlie?

00:27:10.260 Because I, I, my impression of Charlie early on was, you know, he was in there mixing it

00:27:15.020 up maybe more aggressively.

00:27:16.940 And then I, I noticed, I mean, he, you know, always respectful, but like, you know, it was

00:27:21.820 out there, the clips I saw of him were always like him mixing it up with some liberal on

00:27:25.480 campus.

00:27:25.840 And then I was very impressed by him over the past couple of years, at least when I

00:27:31.540 noticed it, that how he was able to take time with people and try to explain things

00:27:37.040 in a very calm, rational way is particularly around faith.

00:27:40.580 I mean, he was a shining example of what you're supposed to be doing in those interactions.

00:27:45.100 It's very difficult to do.

00:27:46.520 I know.

00:27:47.040 Did that develop over time for him?

00:27:48.180 I, I don't, I couldn't tell you, I noticed it the same way I noticed it, did that he

00:27:53.880 became calmer and calmer, you know, as things went on.

00:27:57.080 I think he just, uh, I mean, he was, did he have a photographic memory?

00:28:01.640 I don't even know.

00:28:02.480 Um, you know, a guy didn't go to college, um, that's probably why he's as smart as he

00:28:08.400 was, but he never went to college.

00:28:10.200 Everything he learned, he learned on his own through his own, you know, research and homework

00:28:13.960 and reading.

00:28:14.680 He was constantly reading, um, and you know, through scriptures.

00:28:19.700 And I, I bet you he mellowed with, as he became more and more, uh, mature in his faith.

00:28:28.740 Yeah.

00:28:29.220 I bet he, I bet he mellowed at that point and became just more confident in his faith

00:28:35.040 as well.

00:28:35.900 There's a clip that went viral a few months ago.

00:28:37.520 I think we played it on the air.

00:28:38.980 I don't remember exactly if we did, but we, I know I talked about it off the air a lot

00:28:43.420 with, with various people.

00:28:45.000 It was like, I, and I, I didn't know Charlie Kirk was this guy and it was a clip of him

00:28:49.620 in a, doing a podcast with a bunch of porn stars.

00:28:52.760 Do you know this clip?

00:28:54.780 No.

00:28:55.180 And he's talking to them and he's just like, you know, I just think, uh, God has something

00:29:00.920 better for you.

00:29:01.920 Oh, I do remember that.

00:29:03.200 Yeah.

00:29:03.540 And it was like, it was amazing.

00:29:05.140 Yeah.

00:29:05.540 Like I, it was, you know, when I saw like, Oh, right wing guy on the podcast, a bunch of

00:29:10.280 porn stars.

00:29:10.720 Like I almost didn't even click on the clip because I don't know, I've seen a million

00:29:15.420 of the, this type of stuff.

00:29:16.620 And it's just, it's not the type of stuff that interests me.

00:29:18.480 And then seeing the way he handled that situation was like really impressive.

00:29:23.640 And also it made you think, you know, how can I be more like this person in a moment

00:29:30.260 like that?

00:29:30.860 And the reaction of all of the people around him was to be like, wow, you know, you're

00:29:36.480 really respectful and we appreciate you having this conversation.

00:29:39.420 And maybe he didn't win anybody over to Christ in that room that day.

00:29:43.820 Who knows?

00:29:44.320 Maybe someone will be changed by that interaction, but he was a shining light of what you were

00:29:49.800 supposed to do.

00:29:51.120 And I thought it was really, really impressive.

00:29:53.500 I was very impressed by Charlie Kirk in person.

00:29:57.240 You know, you see so much stuff on social media and it's like, I don't know, it's all,

00:30:00.700 everything on social media is trash, but meeting him in person and seeing him go through,

00:30:06.280 you know, the, the detail that he had, you know, he was really well read.

00:30:11.860 As you mentioned, let me play the clip here.

00:30:14.440 Here's the clip.

00:30:15.560 Thank you guys for a respectful conversation, even though we see things very differently.

00:30:19.020 And I hope the chat enjoyed it.

00:30:21.640 Look, for whatever it's worth, if you're, if you're engaged in the creation of that content,

00:30:27.160 I think God has a better plan for you.

00:30:28.820 I know that might sound preachy and not what you want to hear, but just maybe you'll have

00:30:32.860 an encounter with God and Jesus loves all of you and he'll, he can transfer

00:30:36.280 your life.

00:30:36.880 You transform my life.

00:30:38.200 I've had a lot of problems in my life, a lot of problems and Jesus solves everything.

00:30:42.300 And every day is a new day and it's a hopeful, beautiful life ahead of you.

00:30:46.900 And I know that might not be something you even believe.

00:30:49.900 And you might think that all Christians hate you and your way of life and all those sorts

00:30:54.520 of things.

00:30:54.800 Most of them do.

00:30:55.600 Well, I'll say this.

00:30:56.280 I'm a pretty firm, believing, outspoken Christian and God loves every single one of us.

00:31:00.860 We're all sinners.

00:31:01.840 And Jesus died.

00:31:03.320 I mean, you've definitely been the most respectful one that I've seen.

00:31:06.580 Well, thank you.

00:31:07.100 That's very, very kind.

00:31:08.880 And I can tell you, it's not me.

00:31:10.640 If it was me, I'd be yelling and screaming.

00:31:12.560 It's the Holy Spirit.

00:31:14.840 That's fantastic.

00:31:16.680 That's exactly how I want to remember him.

00:31:18.180 That clip.

00:31:19.600 Yeah.

00:31:20.540 He was a good man.

00:31:21.960 He was exactly like that.

00:31:23.220 He was a good man.

00:31:23.860 Let me go back to the information that we have.

00:31:27.360 It looks like now the FBI is investigating the social media post by at least seven different

00:31:33.800 accounts that appear to have had foreknowledge of the assassination, one of which referred

00:31:42.440 to the date of Kirk's assassination, September 10th, more than a month before it took place.

00:31:47.320 All were deleted in the days following the killing.

00:31:52.700 Several of the accounts appear to be transgender individuals.

00:31:56.220 At least one of them followed Tyler Robinson's roommate, with whom Robinson was allegedly in

00:32:04.760 a relationship with.

00:32:05.880 The FBI has received archive copies of the post.

00:32:09.000 The post don't establish that any of the individuals knew or conspired with Robinson, but, you know, it's

00:32:17.740 pretty damning, pretty damning posts, especially from, especially from the, the roommate.

00:32:30.300 You know, I, I, I don't know what he apparently is cooperating with the police, everybody around

00:32:38.640 Robinson is now cooperating with the police.

00:32:41.940 Um, but, uh, but we'll see.

00:32:44.080 We, we just don't have any idea of what actually happened yet.

00:32:49.240 There, there is suspicion that there might have been more people at least involved or knowing

00:32:55.540 about it.

00:32:56.460 And now there's, uh, also suspicion that possibly the, uh, there was foreign influence on this.

00:33:06.240 Now, I don't know if any of this is true yet.

00:33:09.420 Did you see the two guys that were arrested for putting the bomb under the truck, uh, the,

00:33:14.440 uh, Fox 13 truck in Salt Lake city.

00:33:17.460 So authorities say that they arrested two men on putting a incendiary device under a Fox 13

00:33:25.580 news vehicle in Salt Lake city.

00:33:28.780 Uh, bomb squads responded.

00:33:30.640 This was on Friday.

00:33:31.920 They found this suspicious device under the vehicle parked near an occupied, uh, vehicle.

00:33:37.800 Uh, the bomb had been lit, but failed to function as designed.

00:33:42.200 We don't know.

00:33:44.120 We don't know why this was the target.

00:33:47.640 We can, we can guess at it, but we don't know.

00:33:50.000 But the two suspects identified, um, uh, neither one of them, it, it appears as though they

00:34:00.540 had, uh, some sort of record, uh, because they were, uh, not supposed to be near guns.

00:34:08.540 I don't know why that is.

00:34:12.700 We know their names.

00:34:14.280 They appear to be Arab, um, of Arab descent.

00:34:18.420 We don't know if they were here legally or illegally.

00:34:21.880 Um, it appears as though they may have been Muslim, uh, ages 58 and 31 might've been a father

00:34:28.660 son.

00:34:29.260 We, we just don't know yet.

00:34:31.400 They went to the house and they found all kinds of bomb making materials and, uh, guns,

00:34:37.360 et cetera, et cetera.

00:34:38.360 None of which either of them were supposed to be, um, anywhere near, obviously.

00:34:43.760 I don't know why you would be around bomb making.

00:34:45.800 You know, it's like, you're not supposed to be around bomb making material.

00:34:49.720 Really?

00:34:50.200 Cause I, I think that's pretty much a good rule of thumb for everybody.

00:34:53.260 Uh, and maybe that's, I mean, unless you're in the bomb making, you know, industry, uh,

00:34:58.620 being, being away from bomb making material probably might be a good rule of thumb.

00:35:02.840 Um, I think, you know, uh, but we'll find out more about these two guys, uh, as the investigation,

00:35:09.660 uh, goes on.

00:35:11.440 All right.

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00:38:23.640 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:38:30.560 We are taking contributions for Charlie's family.

00:38:34.300 100% of the proceeds are going to go to Erica and the kids.

00:38:36.920 I mean, did you see Erica?

00:38:38.940 I did.

00:38:40.120 Oh, my gosh.

00:38:41.380 She said, you know, how she told her three-year-old where daddy was.

00:38:46.080 It was just heartbreaking.

00:38:48.200 Just heartbreaking.

00:38:49.800 But we want to make sure the family is taken care of.

00:38:52.860 And I think the family is going to be taken care of.

00:38:55.340 I also want to make sure, however, that the TPUSA, their mission goes on.

00:39:01.940 And so if you give, go to GiveSendGo.com slash 912project.

00:39:08.240 You know, it's our way of saying thank you.

00:39:11.300 And, you know, Charlie came out of that era of the 912project.

00:39:15.020 He started becoming politically aware, you know, the Tea Party side.

00:39:20.460 And he watched and listened every single day.

00:39:24.580 And, boy, oh, boy, did he surpass all of us quickly.

00:39:28.720 But you can go to GiveSendGo.com slash 912project and donate.

00:39:36.640 Every donation reflects the strength of this community and our resolve to stand together.

00:39:42.440 And it will go right directly to Erica.

00:39:44.260 And she can direct the funds to TPUSA because they are going to need fundraising, et cetera, et cetera.

00:39:51.420 They just lost their biggest fundraiser at least until they get on their feet.

00:39:55.900 You know, this is a massive blow.

00:39:57.920 Massive blow.

00:39:58.600 Obviously, to that organization.

00:40:00.660 And our thoughts and prayers are with everybody at TPUSA.

00:40:04.800 All right.

00:40:05.920 Let's see.

00:40:07.400 Glenn, you mentioned.

00:40:08.120 We were just talking.

00:40:08.880 Yeah.

00:40:09.080 Yeah, go ahead.

00:40:09.560 I was going to say, you mentioned the developments in the investigation, which is really fascinating because there was a lot of viral posts that people were, you know, kind of screenshotting and posting about people who seem to know something about this before it happened.

00:40:24.660 And you can never tell whether those are manufactured, whether they're even real.

00:40:28.780 Aaron Sabarian, who we've had on the show before, is reporting that many of them are real.

00:40:34.040 And the FBI is looking into them.

00:40:36.200 One person posting on September 3rd.

00:40:38.940 It would be funny if someone like Charlie Kirk got shot on September 10th.

00:40:43.200 Uh, okay.

00:40:46.260 Um, someone else.

00:40:47.340 It's a weird date.

00:40:48.280 September.

00:40:48.780 Pull out.

00:40:49.460 Yeah.

00:40:49.640 September 10th will be a, uh, an, a very interesting day.

00:40:53.060 And this is something posted on August 6th.

00:40:55.400 And then the, as the shooting goes on, the person re quote tweets their own tweet and says, I plead the fifth.

00:41:03.260 Uh, another one, um, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow.

00:41:07.820 I really hope someone evaporates him.

00:41:09.580 Literally.

00:41:10.200 Let's just say something killer.

00:41:12.200 What's that?

00:41:13.480 That's the killer.

00:41:14.620 That tweet came from the killer.

00:41:16.700 Oh, did it?

00:41:17.880 Um, let's just say something big will happen tomorrow.

00:41:20.180 Um, that's another one there to, uh, another person, uh, Charles James Kirk, Mr. College dropout does not know it's coming tomorrow.

00:41:27.420 Be ready.

00:41:27.980 This isn't a threat.

00:41:28.760 It's a promise.

00:41:29.800 These are all posted in advance of the actual incident.

00:41:34.760 And, uh, there's several, uh, others, uh, people cheering on that they, they, you know, we, we did it, uh, after it was done.

00:41:42.840 Um, you know, and like, it's, what's fascinating about all this is there's also a, an organization I wanted to mention too, that, uh, that was, uh,

00:41:50.160 it was called Armed Queers Salt Lake City that had an account and several thousand followers, uh, that, you know, that there, that deleted their account immediately after this.

00:42:01.320 So the FBI is actually looking into this and, and seeing, you know, it's so common with this sort of stuff in whatever culture we're in, where people do oftentimes post stuff.

00:42:11.460 They can't resist it.

00:42:12.420 It's the reason they're doing it half the time is to get this sort of attention.

00:42:16.140 So they can't stop themselves from posting little breadcrumbs and Easter eggs to try to show how proud they are of what they've accomplished.

00:42:24.700 Uh, so the FBI is taking it seriously.

00:42:26.780 It would be really disturbing, really, really disturbing if, if the, you know, what was it?

00:42:34.900 The trans with guns, queers with guns.

00:42:37.800 Yeah.

00:42:37.960 Armed queers, Salt Lake City.

00:42:40.000 Armed queers, yeah.

00:42:41.800 Um, and he apparently was a part of that organization.

00:42:45.640 They took down their, they took down everything, all their, you know, posts and everything, you know, right after the shooting.

00:42:51.760 Um, but I mean, what, what, what, what, what is your point?

00:42:55.300 You know, queers with guns or, you know, what, what is it called again?

00:43:00.340 Armed queers.

00:43:00.900 Mentally blocking.

00:43:01.960 Yeah.

00:43:02.340 Armed queers.

00:43:02.860 What is your, what is your, what is your point of being armed?

00:43:07.060 What, what does that mean?

00:43:08.300 You know, what, what, what were you suggesting there?

00:43:12.260 Well, their, their, their, their description said something like they were armed to defend trans rights or something.

00:43:18.400 Um, uh, yeah.

00:43:19.360 Well, that's probably what the guy thought he was doing when he killed Charlie Kirk.

00:43:24.340 Um, you know, uh, these, these groups, this is a Marxist group, um, and a revolutionary group.

00:43:32.680 They were also against capitalism and, you know, America and everything else.

00:43:36.920 So this was a revolutionary group that had nothing to do with their sexuality.

00:43:41.420 It's just another way to indoctrinate people and bring them into the fold.

00:43:46.480 Um, but very dangerous.

00:43:48.680 And if they are involved at all, I hope they all go to jail.

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00:45:58.080 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:46:03.180 Hello, America.

00:46:07.520 There is a lot going on today.

00:46:08.900 I've got to tell you, I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime.

00:46:11.820 What is happening is truly a turning point.

00:46:15.080 And it all stems from what happened last week.

00:46:17.740 And I'm going to go into some of the things I noticed this weekend and answer, I think, a really tough question that a lot of people are asking about freedom of speech.

00:46:28.220 The left is starting to say, the right is, you know, engaging in cancel culture.

00:46:32.660 Are we?

00:46:33.640 Are we?

00:46:34.660 We'll answer that here in just a second.

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00:47:47.280 There was a lot of things that were happening over the weekend.

00:47:50.240 First of all, let me play cut two, please.

00:47:52.500 These are the protests in the U.K.

00:47:54.420 Hundreds of thousands of people on the streets in London from the Unite the Kingdom rally.

00:48:01.280 And here are the protesters, if you will, on the streets chanting Charlie, Charlie, Charlie and holding up pictures of Charlie Kirk.

00:48:09.520 Watch this.

00:48:09.960 Charlie Kirk!

00:48:11.320 This thing has gone global.

00:48:24.680 This was happening on the streets.

00:48:27.480 This was happening on the streets in places far away as South Korea.

00:48:33.680 Then you have Maloney, the Prime Minister of Italy, coming out and giving a pretty fiery speech.

00:48:40.600 Listen to this.

00:48:41.860 He would sit in public and allow anyone to challenge him in a debate on any topic because he was convinced of his ideas.

00:48:52.720 He did it with a smile on his face.

00:48:54.700 He did it with respect.

00:48:56.380 He was frightening for this because when you have no arguments, those who have them, I have seen it happen many times.

00:49:05.040 Those who have no arguments are left only with the weapon of criminalization, the weapon of insult, the weapon of making the opponent unacceptable,

00:49:13.380 the weapon of violence that always starts as verbal violence, but sometimes also becomes physical violence.

00:49:19.560 I say this also because in these days I have read many inhumane comments about the death of Charlie Kirk, and I have read other frightening ones.

00:49:30.140 One of these is from Pier Giorgio Di Fredi, an intellectual of the left, who said,

00:49:37.680 Shooting Martin Luther King and shooting a MAGA representative is not the same thing.

00:49:43.200 Now I would like to ask this distinguished professor what exactly he means.

00:49:47.640 Does he mean that there are people it is legitimate to shoot based on their ideas,

00:49:53.900 or that it is less serious to shoot them because we do not share their ideas,

00:49:58.820 or that it is understandable to feel like shooting them based on his ideas?

00:50:04.280 It means that we should imagine lesser penalties for those who shoot a right-wing figure,

00:50:12.620 perhaps considering as a mitigating factor the fact that their ideas are unacceptable.

00:50:21.360 Look!

00:50:22.000 So this is, I mean, this went on.

00:50:25.080 It was an amazing, an amazing speech in Italy.

00:50:30.200 So you know this is a global movement of hatred because it's happening everywhere,

00:50:35.640 and people are saying to those who believe in their country, who believe in the rule of law,

00:50:41.600 who believe in common sense, things that we all used to believe in.

00:50:45.580 Look, I didn't change on, you know, mutilation of children.

00:50:51.340 I didn't change on that.

00:50:52.540 You would have never said that it was fine to have, you know,

00:50:56.980 transgender people doing dances, you know, erotic dances in kindergarten or first grade.

00:51:03.400 You would have never said that.

00:51:04.480 You weren't for that, ever, ever.

00:51:06.320 What changed?

00:51:07.400 I didn't change.

00:51:08.460 You changed.

00:51:09.580 What?

00:51:09.900 What new evidence did you get?

00:51:12.540 And I don't want to talk about your feelings.

00:51:14.140 I want to talk about evidence.

00:51:15.440 What evidence did you get?

00:51:17.720 You didn't get any new evidence.

00:51:19.840 You didn't.

00:51:21.840 You somehow or another have been brainwashed into this thing where you are now,

00:51:26.020 you are for all the things that you knew five years ago, eight years ago.

00:51:30.260 Absolutely wrong.

00:51:31.360 You were against it.

00:51:32.540 You're absolutely against everything.

00:51:35.620 You're against shooting people in the streets who are just trying to say,

00:51:39.180 hey, let's have a conversation.

00:51:41.000 Okay?

00:51:41.560 You're against, quite honestly, the teachers who are applauding all of this.

00:51:47.860 I got an email from somebody that says,

00:51:51.180 Glenn, in the wake of Charlie's assassination,

00:51:53.060 dozens of teachers, professors, and professionals are being suspended or fired

00:51:56.200 for mocking or even celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.

00:52:00.440 Critics say conservatives are now being hypocritical because you oppose cancel culture.

00:52:05.300 But is this the same as Roseanne losing her job over a crude joke,

00:52:09.720 or is it celebrating murder, and that's something more serious?

00:52:13.320 For many, this isn't about cancellation.

00:52:15.020 It's about trust.

00:52:15.780 If a teacher is entrusted with children or a doctor entrusted with patients publicly celebrates political violence,

00:52:21.280 have they not yet disqualified themselves from those roles?

00:52:25.140 Words matter, but cheering a death is an action.

00:52:31.760 Is there any consequence for this?

00:52:34.000 Jonathan, yes, there is.

00:52:36.060 So let's have that conversation here for a second.

00:52:37.960 Is every speech controversy the same?

00:52:44.880 The answer to that is clearly no.

00:52:47.220 I mean, we've seen teachers and pastors and doctors and ordinary citizens lose their job now

00:52:52.540 just for saying they don't believe children under 18 should undergo transgender surgeries.

00:52:57.060 Okay?

00:52:57.920 Lost their job.

00:52:59.020 Chased out.

00:52:59.900 That opinion, whether you agree or disagree, is a moral and medical judgment.

00:53:07.080 And it is a matter of policy debate.

00:53:11.640 It is speech in the public square.

00:53:14.720 I have a right to say you're mutilating children.

00:53:18.180 Okay?

00:53:18.300 You have a right to say, no, we're not.

00:53:20.720 This is best practices.

00:53:22.180 And then we can get into the science of it.

00:53:24.500 And we don't shout down the other side.

00:53:27.700 Okay?

00:53:27.860 Now, on the other hand, you have Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:53:31.760 And we've seen teachers and professors go online and celebrate, not criticize, not argue policy,

00:53:38.140 but celebrate that someone was murdered.

00:53:42.200 Some have gone so far and said, it's not a tragedy, it's a victory.

00:53:47.120 Somebody else, another professor said, you reap what you sow.

00:53:51.680 Well, let me ask you, are these two categories of free speech the same?

00:53:56.340 No, they're not.

00:54:00.360 Here's the difference.

00:54:01.500 To say I believe children should not be allowed to have gender surgeries before 18,

00:54:06.580 that is an attempt, right or wrong, doesn't matter which side you are,

00:54:09.740 that is an attempt to protect life, to protect children, and guide society.

00:54:15.180 It's entering a debate about the role of medicine, the right of parents, and the boundaries of childhood.

00:54:20.300 That's what that is about.

00:54:22.820 To say Charlie Kirk's assassination is a good thing, that's not debate.

00:54:27.280 That's not even an idea.

00:54:29.480 That's rejoicing in violence.

00:54:31.920 It's glorifying death.

00:54:33.620 There's no place in a civil society for that kind of stuff.

00:54:38.340 There's not.

00:54:39.360 And it's a difference that actually matters.

00:54:42.640 You know, our founders fought for free speech because they believed, as Jefferson said,

00:54:46.840 that error can be tolerated where truth is left free to combat it.

00:54:52.300 So, I have no problem with people disagreeing with me at all.

00:54:57.880 I don't think you do either.

00:54:59.120 I hope you don't.

00:54:59.980 Otherwise, you should go back and read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

00:55:03.800 Error can be tolerated where truth is left to be free to combat it.

00:55:08.800 But when speech shifts from debating ideas to celebrating death,

00:55:14.440 doesn't that cease to be the pursuit of truth and instead just become a glorification of evil?

00:55:21.900 I know where I stand on that one.

00:55:24.260 Where do you stand?

00:55:26.620 I mean, if you go back and you look at history,

00:55:28.640 In colonial America, if you were a dissenter and you were going against the parliament,

00:55:36.260 against the king, those words are dangerous.

00:55:39.400 They were called treason.

00:55:40.620 But they were ideas.

00:55:42.280 They were arguments about liberty and taxation and the rights of man.

00:55:46.280 And the founders risked their lives against the dictator to say those things.

00:55:51.140 Now, compare that to France in 1793.

00:55:56.300 Thomas Paine, one of our founder, kind of, you know, on the edges of our founders,

00:56:03.760 he thought that what was happening in France is exactly like the American Revolution.

00:56:10.560 Washington knew it wasn't.

00:56:13.120 There, the crowds, they didn't gather to argue.

00:56:16.000 Okay?

00:56:16.140 They gathered to cheer the guillotine.

00:56:18.640 They didn't want the battle of ideas.

00:56:20.780 They wanted blood.

00:56:22.300 They wanted heads to roll.

00:56:23.920 And roll they did.

00:56:26.340 You know?

00:56:27.080 Until the people who were screaming for the heads to roll, shouted for blood,

00:56:31.880 found that their own heads were rolling.

00:56:33.600 Then they kind of turned around on that one pretty quickly.

00:56:35.920 Think of Rome.

00:56:38.920 Cicero begged his countrymen to preserve the republic through reason, law, and debate.

00:56:44.720 Then what happened?

00:56:46.320 The mobs started cheering assassinations.

00:56:49.140 They rejoiced that enemies were slaughtered.

00:56:52.200 They were being fed to the lions.

00:56:55.360 And the republic fell into empire and liberty was lost.

00:56:59.500 Okay, so now let me bring this back to Charlie Kirk here for a second.

00:57:02.020 If there's a professor that says,

00:57:06.360 I don't believe children should have surgeries before adulthood,

00:57:09.120 is that cancel culture when they're fired?

00:57:15.260 Yes.

00:57:16.560 Yes, it is.

00:57:17.920 Because that is speech in pursuit of truth.

00:57:21.380 However imperfect, it is speech meant to protect children, not to harm them.

00:57:26.960 You also cannot be fired for saying, I disagree with that.

00:57:32.020 If you are telling, I disagree with that,

00:57:35.920 and I will do anything to shut you down, including assassination,

00:57:40.340 well then, that's a different story.

00:57:42.440 When a teacher says, I'm glad Charlie Kirk is dead,

00:57:46.440 is that cancel culture if they're fired?

00:57:50.040 Or is that just society saying,

00:57:52.540 you know, I don't think I can trust my kid to that guy or that woman.

00:57:57.920 I don't, I, that's not an enlightening mind.

00:58:01.380 Somebody who delights in political murder,

00:58:03.640 I don't want them around my children.

00:58:07.200 Scripture weighs in here too.

00:58:09.900 Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh.

00:58:13.300 Matthew.

00:58:15.620 What does it reveal about the heart of a teacher who celebrates assassination?

00:58:19.060 To me, you go back to scripture,

00:58:23.020 woe unto them, they call good, evil, good, and good, evil.

00:58:27.280 A society that will shrug on speech like this

00:58:31.000 is a society that has lost its moral compass.

00:58:34.700 And I believe we still have a moral compass.

00:58:37.460 Now, our free speech law, does it protect both?

00:58:43.640 Absolutely.

00:58:44.280 Under law, absolutely.

00:58:45.860 Neither one of them should go to jail.

00:58:48.540 Neither should be silenced by the state.

00:58:51.920 But does trust survive both?

00:58:54.980 Can a parent trust their child to a teacher who is celebrating death?

00:58:58.280 I think no.

00:58:59.640 I don't think a teacher can be trusted

00:59:01.720 if they think that children,

00:59:03.140 that it's right for children to see strippers in first grade.

00:59:09.060 I'm sorry.

00:59:09.940 It's beyond reason.

00:59:11.560 You should not be around my children.

00:59:14.840 But you shouldn't go to jail for that.

00:59:17.980 Don't we as a society have a right to demand virtue

00:59:22.860 in positions of authority?

00:59:27.320 Yes.

00:59:28.220 But the political class and, honestly, the educational class

00:59:31.880 has done everything they can to say that that doesn't matter.

00:59:34.180 But it does, and we're seeing it now.

00:59:37.180 The line between cancel and culture,

00:59:41.680 the cancellation of people

00:59:45.280 and the accountability of people in our culture,

00:59:48.360 it's not easy.

00:59:52.160 Except here.

00:59:53.080 I think it is easy.

00:59:57.040 Cancel culture is about challenging the orthodoxy.

01:00:02.320 Opinions about faith, morality, biology.

01:00:05.960 Accountability comes when speech reveals somebody's heart.

01:00:11.460 Accountability comes when you're like,

01:00:13.460 you are a monster.

01:00:15.540 You are celebrating violence.

01:00:18.400 You're mocking life itself.

01:00:21.020 One's an argument.

01:00:21.920 The other is an abandonment of humanity.

01:00:24.680 The Constitution, so you understand, protects both.

01:00:27.520 But we as a culture can decide what kind of voices would shape our children,

01:00:33.940 heal our sick, lead our communities.

01:00:36.740 I'm sorry if you're in a position of trust.

01:00:39.140 I think it's absolutely right for the culture to say,

01:00:41.680 no, no, you should not,

01:00:44.340 because this is not policy debate.

01:00:47.740 This is celebrating death.

01:00:49.880 You know, our founders gave us liberty.

01:00:53.380 And, you know, the big thing was, can you keep it?

01:00:55.600 Well, how do you keep it?

01:00:57.640 Virtue.

01:00:58.660 Virtue.

01:00:59.620 Liberty without virtue is suicide.

01:01:02.280 So, if anybody is making this case to you that this is cancel culture,

01:01:07.620 I just want you to ask them this question.

01:01:12.320 Which do you want to defend?

01:01:15.100 Cancel culture that silences debate

01:01:17.200 or a culture that still knows the difference between debating ideas

01:01:22.480 and celebrating death?

01:01:26.620 Which one?

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01:03:11.460 Oh.

01:03:13.460 Okay.

01:03:15.920 There's a few things running through my head today.

01:03:21.340 By the way, on Wednesday, I'm going to be at TPUSA.

01:03:24.980 I'm going to be filling in for Charlie.

01:03:26.700 The vice president is filling in for Charlie today.

01:03:30.840 And you can hear that starting at noon on Charlie's network.

01:03:36.260 I want to talk to you, though, some more about free speech.

01:03:38.760 Can we go play cut 24?

01:03:44.920 These are people that have violent rhetoric.

01:03:49.140 And they say they're not inciting violence.

01:03:51.900 But I want you to listen to this.

01:03:54.440 Cut 24, please.

01:03:55.520 Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read, hey, fascist, exclamation point, catch, exclamation point.

01:04:03.320 Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?

01:04:05.200 Yes, I do.

01:04:05.620 No one has ever been more dangerous to this country than Donald Trump.

01:04:10.580 And he is a fascist to his core.

01:04:12.460 Hey, let me shut down the city.

01:04:14.640 Hey, we are at war.

01:04:17.520 We're at war right now.

01:04:18.820 We are at war.

01:04:19.640 So you have to be willing to do whatever is necessary in order to save the country.

01:04:23.920 And that's why gloves are off.

01:04:25.520 Donald Trump and the migrant Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.

01:04:33.160 And yes, they're...

01:04:34.020 Okay, stop.

01:04:34.920 Now, I have said things like they are dangerous.

01:04:38.800 They are going to...

01:04:40.800 They're trying to overthrow our government.

01:04:43.420 Which is true.

01:04:45.680 And I can prove it to you.

01:04:47.240 And I have for several years.

01:04:49.000 I have proven it to you that there are those factions inside the left that are revolutionaries.

01:04:55.280 I mean, we have it just...

01:04:56.200 We just talked about it a few minutes ago with the transgender movement in Salt Lake City.

01:05:00.180 You know, they are communist revolutionaries.

01:05:02.620 By their own description, they're communist revolutionaries.

01:05:05.640 Well, communist revolutionaries, you know, they don't like peaceful transfers.

01:05:08.480 They want to destroy and have a bloody revolution in the street.

01:05:14.560 And so when you're looking at somebody who is fomenting revolution, yeah, I think they're a danger to the republic.

01:05:21.620 When somebody says, this person is a fascist, we're at war, and you have to do whatever it takes to get that person out, and you say that over and over and over and over again, what do you think is going to happen?

01:05:36.440 Because if you really, truly believe that Donald Trump is a fascist, that he is Hitler, that he is rounding up transgender people, if you really believe Stephen King, that Charlie Kirk was for the stoning, listen to this, the stoning of homosexuals, if you really believe that, what aren't you willing to do to stop that monster?

01:06:01.280 The problem is, it's lies, these are lies.

01:06:08.420 Donald Trump is not a fascist.

01:06:12.360 You could make the case the last president was on the fascistic road with his public-private partnerships, but that would require you to know the actual definition of fascism, which nobody does.

01:06:23.760 But if you keep calling somebody a fascist and Hitler, and we have to do whatever it takes, what do you think is going to happen?

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01:08:03.220 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:08:18.880 We're talking about the aftermath of Charlie Kirk and cancel culture.

01:08:23.360 This is not cancel culture.

01:08:26.560 You know, and especially, you know, I don't want it driven by the mobs.

01:08:30.300 I think, you know, if somebody says they're celebrating somebody's death, I think that's somebody I don't want to work with.

01:08:37.920 You know, Stu and I were just talking in Minnesota.

01:08:40.580 If anybody on my staff would have said, oh, my gosh, this is so great.

01:08:45.420 Do you see they just killed those politicians in Minnesota?

01:08:48.320 I would have fired them on the spot.

01:08:50.960 I would have fired them on the spot.

01:08:53.620 We didn't say those things.

01:08:55.140 And, you know, that's that's not what normal people think.

01:09:00.820 And if you are on the right and you do think that way, you're not a normal person.

01:09:05.260 You're sick and you seek help.

01:09:07.260 Yeah, I understand the point with the cancel culture thing.

01:09:12.200 It's bizarre that all of a sudden we're supposed to think that the left cares about cancel culture after they've been developing it as a weapon for all these years.

01:09:19.380 It's such a shocking thing, but I actually am pretty sensitive to the idea of an excuse for one of these things being, oh, well, this one's different.

01:09:31.780 And here's why.

01:09:32.560 Because you can always come up with some difference, right?

01:09:34.480 That is a very standard thing that everyone does in their arguments.

01:09:37.860 Oh, well, I'm disagreeing with a position I held a month ago.

01:09:42.320 Well, this is different.

01:09:43.420 And here's why.

01:09:44.940 There's always an there's always a way to generate a why it's different.

01:09:49.100 The question is, are you actually being consistent with your principles and your values?

01:09:52.480 And in this one, I don't think there's anything inconsistent with what we're talking about here.

01:09:57.100 As you point out, if I've never in my life, by the way, met a person who has cheered on a murder, I've never in my life met someone like that.

01:10:06.420 And so here, if you have a situation where if there was someone working here or someone I was working with, God forbid, working at my children's school who was cheering on a murder of literally anyone right or left, I wouldn't want them around me or around my kids.

01:10:22.240 It seems like a person who's pretty unbalanced and someone you don't want around has nothing to do with making an off color joke in 1998.

01:10:30.320 That's that's what cancel culture was about.

01:10:32.580 Hey, you made a political donation to a organization that was supporting a cause at the time that was backed by 70 percent of people.

01:10:40.760 Now we're going to cancel you.

01:10:42.640 That is the type of stuff that was cancel culture.

01:10:45.420 This really is different.

01:10:47.340 And that was also mob.

01:10:48.380 It was also mob driven.

01:10:49.960 Yeah.

01:10:50.340 Cancel culture is also mob driven.

01:10:52.640 And that's the problem.

01:10:54.140 Another thing that they invented on the left.

01:10:56.460 They invented this this cancel culture.

01:10:59.080 And, you know, honestly, read Cheryl Atkinson's book.

01:11:01.880 It started on my with my program.

01:11:03.980 I mean, they they did all kinds of stuff they had never, ever done before to a figure in the media.

01:11:13.400 And they just ripped me apart.

01:11:15.980 They thought they won, but they they actually didn't.

01:11:19.740 And B, what they did was they perfected it and it worked for a little while.

01:11:24.940 It worked for people for a little while.

01:11:26.840 They were canceling everybody.

01:11:28.060 If you had a different opinion on what you should put into your body for medicine, you were called a killer.

01:11:37.740 No, you know, I'm not.

01:11:40.820 There's no fact based in any of that.

01:11:43.800 And your argument was based on lies.

01:11:46.220 And we said it at the time.

01:11:47.600 We couldn't prove it at the time, but we could we could see all the dots and all the connections and go, I think you're probably wrong.

01:11:55.920 Look, this, this and this.

01:11:56.980 But now we can absolutely prove it.

01:11:58.840 And they still will say you were wrong.

01:12:01.840 For not wanting to wear a mask or take the vaccine, they'll still say that they still would like to cancel you.

01:12:08.360 And you don't have any place in society if you don't agree with the covid vaccine.

01:12:12.640 I mean, that that's that's what cancel culture is.

01:12:15.980 This is don't celebrate death.

01:12:18.560 If I didn't want to take the vaccine because I said, yeah, because I just want to kill a whole bunch of people.

01:12:24.500 It would be cancel culture.

01:12:26.980 It would be common sense and decency to remove me from whatever it is.

01:12:32.840 I'm I don't I wouldn't want to go into a McDonald's with a guy going, yeah, I just want to give is I want to kill as many grandmas as I can.

01:12:39.600 Hey, you see that guy that was in marriage mask and his greatest killing grandparents.

01:12:43.180 I wouldn't want to be around that person.

01:12:46.140 That's not cancel culture.

01:12:47.420 No, if you found out a co-worker was secretly in the KKK, would you want them to be around you working?

01:12:54.500 No.

01:12:55.400 Now, I mean, there are, you know, so many stories that are going on with all these people who are celebrated it.

01:13:02.860 And some of them are being targeted at their at their places of work, you know, people saying, hey, do you know this person works for you?

01:13:10.160 Many of them are getting fired.

01:13:12.020 A lot of them, though, are at jobs that are specifically dealing with children, for example, like teachers at schools.

01:13:20.800 Teachers, every single teacher should be fired.

01:13:23.540 If you're engaged in any of this, if you didn't stand up in front of your class and then on social media and everything else and say, look, I disagree with Charlie Kirk.

01:13:33.100 I strongly disagree with Charlie Kirk.

01:13:35.220 But this is wrong.

01:13:37.160 Now, let's debate why it's wrong.

01:13:39.140 You do that.

01:13:40.420 But anybody who is like, yeah, I mean, at UVU, UVU, my son told me that classes cheered when they heard the news that day.

01:13:50.800 They cheered.

01:13:53.460 Every single every single teacher should be fired that didn't say to their students, knock it off.

01:14:01.460 What is wrong with you?

01:14:04.000 You're cheering for somebody's death.

01:14:06.440 I hear another word like that, and you're all flunk.

01:14:09.000 I'm flunking all of you.

01:14:11.640 I mean, some kids, some kids were expelled from school because of this and deserve to be, frankly, you know, deserve to be.

01:14:18.060 And if I want to channel my inner Charlie Kirk here for a moment and give as much grace as possible to the people, we there is a culture right now of people who almost treat politics and human life as this sort of like sport and game.

01:14:35.500 Like, you know, I after specific Eagles losses, I have said certainly things that are not appropriate.

01:14:43.400 I may have encouraged them to dissolve the franchise and blow up the stadium.

01:14:47.260 Those sorts of thoughts enter your head and they're irrational.

01:14:50.140 Right.

01:14:50.600 You know, they're irrational.

01:14:51.560 And because you're joking, it's, you know.

01:14:53.100 But, like, you feel like I could almost see a person doing something like this that is so involved in politics and so crazy that they can't control themselves.

01:15:04.700 I have not seen one story, though, yet.

01:15:07.660 And I would love to see this.

01:15:08.540 This would be an incredible story to be written by an actual journalist.

01:15:11.740 Find a person who had that moment and stop this.

01:15:16.100 I'm just laughing, just trying to think of who the actual journalist.

01:15:18.560 I don't know.

01:15:19.380 John Solomon's busy right now.

01:15:20.760 I would love to find someone who had that moment where they actually did celebrate it and then saw the video of themselves and realized what a monster they had become.

01:15:33.280 That is an actually interesting story.

01:15:35.920 I would like to see it.

01:15:36.860 There has to be somebody in that crowd that had that moment because this is not about politics.

01:15:42.120 As I said, Glenn, if the same exact thing happened to someone on the left and I knew someone on the right who cheered it on the exact same way,

01:15:50.540 I would never want to talk to them again.

01:15:52.760 You're a horrible human being if you react that way to anyone's murder.

01:15:58.040 And to sit back and see that happen, there has to be somebody, I would think, who said, God, I am lost.

01:16:05.080 I've gone down this road of turning my entire life into politics.

01:16:09.280 And to the point that I'm now cheering on a young father's death, what have I become?

01:16:15.080 There has to be somebody who went through that moment over the past few days.

01:16:17.940 I'd love to read a story about them.

01:16:19.840 Not necessarily me.

01:16:20.420 Did you see Christian Chenoweth, you know, the Broadway star?

01:16:25.680 Yeah, I know who she is.

01:16:26.680 Yeah, no, I didn't see what she said.

01:16:27.620 Okay, so she came out.

01:16:29.620 I can't find it here.

01:16:31.000 She came out and said, what a tragedy this was.

01:16:35.580 She feels for Charlie's family and his children, yada, yada, yada.

01:16:40.200 That's it.

01:16:40.940 Not like, hey, he was the greatest political speech giver of all time.

01:16:45.280 I, you know, I go Charlie.

01:16:47.140 Nothing.

01:16:47.680 Just this was horrendous.

01:16:50.060 It's got to stop.

01:16:51.140 And I feel for his wife and children.

01:16:54.000 She's being canceled now.

01:16:56.860 She's being canceled.

01:16:58.200 I don't know, for standing up and saying this was wrong, that's cancel culture.

01:17:04.900 That's a bunch of people with a political opinion saying, I cannot work with her.

01:17:11.540 Instead of saying, I don't care what anybody's political opinion is, I feel for the children.

01:17:18.960 That's the difference, the difference in cancel culture and actually just standing up for what is right.

01:17:28.200 We don't celebrate.

01:17:30.080 I don't know a single person that when those assassinations, the assassination happened in Minnesota, I don't know a single person.

01:17:37.880 And I wouldn't want to be your friend.

01:17:40.260 And I would definitely excoriate you if you were a listener of mine.

01:17:46.000 They came out and said, wow, that was great.

01:17:48.960 What?

01:17:49.700 Yeah, that's true.

01:17:51.280 What part of that?

01:17:52.080 You know, it's interesting, Glenn.

01:17:53.280 I didn't even see social media posts to that effect.

01:17:57.840 Now, social media exists to give every voice to every opinion.

01:18:02.040 You can find anything.

01:18:03.200 And I'm sure there were a couple.

01:18:04.800 But I didn't even come across any that were excited about that or cheering it on.

01:18:09.600 I mean, I don't know.

01:18:10.700 That's what I would expect out of human beings.

01:18:13.440 And I will say at least somewhat encouraged by, for example, a decent amount of sports franchises having moments of silence for Charlie Kirk.

01:18:21.800 I don't think that happens three or four or five years ago.

01:18:24.000 I thought that was amazing.

01:18:24.480 Right?

01:18:24.760 Like, I don't think that happens in the peak woke era.

01:18:27.600 No.

01:18:27.720 That was good.

01:18:29.320 I was glad that actually happened.

01:18:31.040 And, you know, it's a little bit.

01:18:32.880 It's a small step.

01:18:34.180 But I think a really good one that you acknowledge, hey, this is just a person who died in horrible circumstances.

01:18:38.880 And maybe we're going down the wrong road as a society if we think anything other than a moment of silence is appropriate.

01:18:49.480 Did you see the mayor up in, I think it's Massachusetts, that said to the fire department, raise your flag.

01:18:57.900 We're not lowering the flag.

01:19:00.700 I mean, you want to know you're on the wrong side of history.

01:19:05.080 Imagine being the mayor of a town that said, don't you raise that, don't you lower that flag, raise that flag for Martin Luther King.

01:19:15.120 Excuse me?

01:19:17.780 I mean, this is a political and I think religious, as much as Martin Luther King was a religious and civil rights assassination, this was too.

01:19:30.520 This was too.

01:19:31.220 And I know there's a lot of people on the right that think Charlie Kirk, you know, Charlie Kirk was against the Civil Rights Act.

01:19:37.400 Well, yeah, let him make that case.

01:19:40.220 Let him make that case.

01:19:41.620 And I think you can make a strong case on that.

01:19:44.020 And I think that civil rights leaders have been just race hustlers and money hustlers.

01:19:52.980 BLM?

01:19:54.300 BLM?

01:19:54.820 That's a civil rights movement?

01:19:56.160 No, it's not.

01:19:56.780 No, it's not.

01:19:57.180 Yeah, and I know you've talked about that before, like, it's not undermining, you know, what came out of that era, right?

01:20:03.160 Like, obviously you agree with all, you've talked about it a million times, did you agree with that?

01:20:07.560 There, you know, there have been arguments legally against that act and the way it was written and all of that over the years.

01:20:12.180 Exactly right.

01:20:12.400 So we don't need to rehash, but that's what I think Charlie was saying.

01:20:14.120 Exactly right.

01:20:15.380 And that's exactly what he was saying.

01:20:18.120 And Martin Luther King was a deeply flawed guy.

01:20:20.900 You know why he was so flawed?

01:20:22.500 Because no one else would stand up and do it because they knew the cost.

01:20:28.100 I mean, getting somebody like Charlie to stand up and do this, who's not deeply flawed, is pretty rare.

01:20:34.200 I mean, this guy was who he said he was.

01:20:37.680 And he was absolutely a civil rights, now, I believe, a civil rights icon.

01:20:44.640 Because he died proclaiming the civil right of free speech.

01:20:51.080 He died proclaiming the rights given to us by God.

01:20:56.220 I don't understand why we would not redefine what a civil rights leader is in this moment.

01:21:04.520 Because that's a true civil right.

01:21:07.280 You know, Jesse Jackson, he's not a civil right.

01:21:09.500 Al Sharpton, he's not a civil rights leader.

01:21:12.260 BLM, not a civil rights leader.

01:21:13.860 They may have been, you know, Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson may have been back in the day.

01:21:20.380 But in the 80s and 90s and 2000s, they're not civil rights leaders.

01:21:25.460 The civil rights of our era is about freedom of speech, freedom of thought.

01:21:31.700 That's what the whole argument is about.

01:21:34.060 That's why we're so afraid of our country.

01:21:36.100 Are you going to be banned on social media?

01:21:39.800 Are you going to be allowed to say anything?

01:21:41.460 Are you going to be allowed to work anywhere unless, if you don't agree with DEI, you're out.

01:21:49.520 I don't know.

01:21:50.140 That's a civil right.

01:21:51.200 I have the civil right to be able to stand up and say, no, I don't want my children seeing that.

01:21:56.000 I don't want my children indoctrinated that way.

01:21:58.120 I don't want to take and put that into my body because I don't think that that is what you say it is.

01:22:04.800 I have a civil right to say those things.

01:22:07.720 How is Charlie Kirk not the iconic civil right leader of the day?

01:22:15.660 I think that ground should be taken by Charlie Kirk, taken back to what it originally was when Abraham Lincoln and Booker T and Frederick Douglass were fighting for civil rights and doing it for the right reasons.

01:22:36.000 They believed in actual civil rights, as did Martin Luther King.

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01:24:15.020 We've got to talk about, like, what it means when you're running for president or you're running for one of these higher offices and you go out there and you talk about beating people up.

01:24:30.840 You go out there and you say things like, I could shoot somebody in the middle of the street in New York and I could still win.

01:24:36.220 And we've got to talk about, like, that is next level.

01:24:39.140 Me disagreeing with you.

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01:24:43.040 All those things are, like, not necessarily saying go out and hurt somebody.

01:24:48.100 No.

01:24:48.420 But when you're literally telling people at rallies, yeah, beat them up.

01:24:52.240 And that kind of stuff, like, you are promoting, like, a culture of violence.

01:24:55.700 So we need to talk about, like, what it looks like when you don't promote a culture of violence.

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01:29:28.900 Mr. Bill O'Reilly, welcome to the program.

01:29:30.560 How are you, sir?

01:29:32.020 Good, Beck.

01:29:32.660 Thanks for having me back.

01:29:33.800 I appreciate it.

01:29:34.620 How have you been?

01:29:36.280 You know, last week was really tough.

01:29:38.100 I know it was tough for you and everybody else.

01:29:39.920 But, you know, I haven't seen anything.

01:29:45.060 Uh, family okay, all of that.

01:29:48.740 I, yes.

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01:29:56.600 So, Bill, um, what do you make of this whole Charlie Kirk thing?

01:30:01.000 What, what happened and where are we headed?

01:30:03.940 So, my analysis is different from everybody else.

01:30:06.940 No surprise to you.

01:30:08.340 You've known me for so long.

01:30:09.800 Um, about a year ago, I was looking for a topic for, because I had a contract to do another book.

01:30:18.760 And I, I said, you know, what's happening in America, uh, and around the world is a rise in evil.

01:30:26.340 You see, it takes a year to research and write these books.

01:30:30.400 And not since the 1930s, uh, had I seen that happen to this extent.

01:30:37.800 And in the 1930s, of course, you had Tojo and Hitler and Mussolini and Franco and all these guys.

01:30:45.380 And it led to 100 million dead in World War II.

01:30:47.860 The same thing, not to the extent, but the same thing was bubbling.

01:30:52.760 In the world and in the United States.

01:30:55.120 So, I decided to write a book, Confronting Evil.

01:30:57.120 A book comes out last Tuesday.

01:30:59.080 And on Wednesday, Putin lobs missiles into Poland, ultra-dangerous.

01:31:03.800 And a few hours later, Charlie Kirk is assassinated.

01:31:08.920 And one of the interviewers, uh, said to me last week, it's your, your book is haunting.

01:31:16.380 It's haunting.

01:31:17.300 And I think that's extremely accurate.

01:31:21.460 Because that's what evil does.

01:31:25.020 And in the United States, we have so many distractions.

01:31:28.860 Uh, the social media, uh, bubble pit people create around their own lives, sports, whatever it may be.

01:31:35.940 That we look away.

01:31:37.360 Now, Charlie Kirk was an interesting, uh, fellow.

01:31:41.980 Because at a very young age, uh, he was mature enough to understand that he wanted to take a stand in favor of traditional America and Judeo-Christian philosophy.

01:31:59.140 He decided that he wanted to do that.

01:32:03.280 Well, you know, when I was 31 or whatever, I was lucky I wasn't in the penitentiary.

01:32:07.500 And I believe you were in the penitentiary.

01:32:10.240 Okay?

01:32:11.300 So, he was light years ahead of us.

01:32:15.660 Yes, he was.

01:32:16.420 And he put it into motion.

01:32:18.600 All right, now, most good people, even if you disagree with what Mr. Kirk says on occasion,

01:32:27.220 you admire that.

01:32:29.660 That's the spirit of America.

01:32:32.320 That you have a belief system.

01:32:34.120 That you go out and try to promote that belief system for the greater good of the country.

01:32:40.860 That's what it is.

01:32:41.920 There's nothing else to it.

01:32:44.040 That's what Charlie Kirk did.

01:32:47.060 And he lost his life by doing it.

01:32:51.280 So, when you essentially break all of this down, you take the emotion away.

01:32:55.700 All right, which I have to do in my job.

01:32:59.820 You see it as another victory for evil.

01:33:05.260 But it really isn't.

01:33:07.080 And this is the ongoing story.

01:33:09.740 This is the most important story.

01:33:11.760 So, when you read my book, Confronting Evil, you'll see that all of these heinous individuals,

01:33:18.040 Putin's on the cover, Mao, Hitler, Ayatollah Khomeini, and then there are 14 others inside the book.

01:33:26.240 They all destroy themselves.

01:33:29.360 The evil always destroys itself.

01:33:32.060 But it takes so many people with it.

01:33:35.100 So, this shooter destroyed his own family.

01:33:41.600 And Donald Trump, I talked to him about it last week at Yankee Stadium.

01:33:46.840 And Trump is a much different guy than most people think.

01:33:51.080 He destroyed his own mother and father and his two brothers.

01:33:55.760 That's what this killer did in addition to the Kirk family.

01:33:59.380 So, evil spreads.

01:34:03.580 Now, if Americans pay attention and come to the conclusion that I just stated,

01:34:11.200 it will be much more difficult for evil to operate openly.

01:34:16.300 And that's what I think is going to happen.

01:34:18.880 There's going to be a ferocious backlash against the progressive left in particular

01:34:24.520 to stop it.

01:34:29.020 And I believe that is what Mr. Kirk's legacy is going to be.

01:34:34.660 I agree with you on all of these fronts.

01:34:39.340 I wonder, though, you know, it took three, or if you count JFK,

01:34:44.720 four assassinations in the 60s to confront the evil, if you will,

01:34:52.260 before people really woke up and said, enough is enough.

01:34:55.720 And then you got the big Jesus revolution after that.

01:34:59.040 I hate to say this, but as far gone as we are,

01:35:04.740 is one assassination enough to wake people up?

01:35:08.820 Some people.

01:35:10.760 Some people are never going to wake up.

01:35:12.480 They just don't want to live in the real world, Beck.

01:35:16.420 And it's never been easier to do that with the social media

01:35:19.880 and the phones and the computers.

01:35:22.260 And you're never going to get them back.

01:35:23.900 But you don't need them.

01:35:26.140 So let's just be very realistic here in the Glenn Beck show.

01:35:30.740 Let's run it down.

01:35:33.840 The corporate media is finished in America.

01:35:38.320 It's over.

01:35:40.840 And you will see that play out in the next five years.

01:35:43.720 Because the corporate media invested so much of its credibility into hating Donald Trump.

01:35:53.040 And the hate is the key word.

01:35:56.360 You'll find this interesting, Beck.

01:35:58.240 For the first time in 10 years, I've been invited to do a major thing on CBS today.

01:36:05.780 I'm going to do it today with Major Garrett.

01:36:09.900 Now, that only happened because Skydance bought CBS.

01:36:15.080 And Skydance understands the brand CBS is over.

01:36:19.520 And they're going to have to rehabilitate the whole thing.

01:36:24.360 NBC has not come to that conclusion yet.

01:36:27.540 No.

01:36:27.760 But it will have to.

01:36:28.640 And ABC just does the weather.

01:36:30.640 I mean, that's all I care about.

01:36:31.920 It's just snowing in Montana.

01:36:34.440 Okay?

01:36:34.960 The cables are all finished.

01:36:37.960 Even Fox.

01:36:39.320 Once Trump leaves the stage, there's nowhere for FNC to go.

01:36:45.740 Because they've invested so much in Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

01:36:51.360 So the fact of the matter is the corporate media is over in America.

01:36:55.980 That takes a huge cudgel out of the hands of the progressive movement.

01:37:01.520 Because the progressive movement was dependent on the corporate media to advance its cause.

01:37:11.320 That's going to end, Beck.

01:37:15.960 Well, I would hope that you're right.

01:37:17.700 Let me ask you about Skydance.

01:37:18.960 When have I been wrong?

01:37:20.860 When have I been wrong?

01:37:22.440 Well, you've known me for 55 years.

01:37:25.520 When have I been wrong?

01:37:27.420 Okay.

01:37:28.580 All right.

01:37:28.960 All right.

01:37:29.280 All right.

01:37:29.620 We're not here to argue things like that.

01:37:31.520 Um, uh, so, uh, um, tell me about Skydance because isn't Skydance Chinese?

01:37:38.240 No, it's, uh, Ellison, Larry Ellison, uh, the second richest guy in the world.

01:37:45.100 He owns, uh, Lanai and Hawaii, uh, the big tech guy and his son's running it.

01:37:51.620 Yeah.

01:37:52.200 Okay.

01:37:52.620 I thought Skydance, I thought that was, you do, you know them.

01:37:56.140 Yeah.

01:37:57.240 Yeah.

01:37:57.660 And they, they're not ideological, but they were as appalled as most of us who pay attention

01:38:07.620 at the deterioration of the network presentations.

01:38:12.740 I mean, so do you think that they could 60 minutes used to be the gold standard?

01:38:20.600 And, uh, and it just, uh, now that, you know, you, I don't even watch anymore.

01:38:26.180 You can't trust the word they say.

01:38:28.360 I know.

01:38:29.280 So do you think they can actually turn CBS around or is it just over?

01:38:33.380 I don't know.

01:38:34.960 It's very hard, uh, to predict because so many people now about, I got, uh, a daughter

01:38:43.500 26 and a son 22.

01:38:46.280 They never, ever watch network television and you got a bunch of kids too, right?

01:38:54.500 Yeah.

01:38:54.900 Yeah.

01:38:55.360 They don't, they don't watch it.

01:38:57.160 They're not going to watch the voice, the dancing with this, the juggling with that.

01:39:02.640 And, uh, you know, I, I don't, I think they can do a much better job in their news presentations

01:39:09.460 because what they did, uh, all three networks is banish people like Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly

01:39:16.880 sane voices with huge followings, huge.

01:39:22.740 All right.

01:39:24.000 We couldn't get on there.

01:39:26.160 That's why Colbert got fired.

01:39:28.060 Because Colbert wouldn't refuse to put on any non-progressive voice when they were talking

01:39:35.360 about the country.

01:39:37.180 Refuse.

01:39:37.380 Well, it's not that he, I'm censoring it.

01:39:40.640 Yeah.

01:39:41.200 And, but it's not that he was fired because he wouldn't do that.

01:39:44.000 He was fired because that led to horrible ratings, horrible.

01:39:47.660 It was his defiance.

01:39:50.460 Fallon has terrible ratings and so does Kimmel, but Colbert was in your face.

01:39:55.560 F you to the, uh, people who were signing his paycheck.

01:40:01.120 Look, evil can only exist if the mechanisms of power are behind it.

01:40:09.780 And that's when you read confronting evil and I take them one by one and Putin is the

01:40:14.720 most important chapter by far, because in my opinion, Putin would use nuclear weapons.

01:40:22.300 He would.

01:40:23.660 He's a psychopath.

01:40:25.720 And I, uh, on Thursday night, I, I got a call from, uh, the president's people saying,

01:40:32.200 would you meet, uh, the president Yankee stadium for the nine 11 game?

01:40:36.660 And I said, you know, when a president calls and asks you to meet him, you need him.

01:40:41.040 Sure.

01:40:41.460 Okay.

01:40:41.780 Yeah.

01:40:42.060 Right.

01:40:42.420 I'll be there.

01:40:43.120 I said, sure.

01:40:44.620 You know, it'll take me three days to get into Yankee stadium from Long Island, but I'll

01:40:49.220 start now.

01:40:50.620 Especially, especially because the president's coming, but go ahead.

01:40:54.820 Anyway, that was a very, uh, I think that Mr. Trump values my opinion.

01:41:01.520 And, and, and it was, uh, we did talk about Putin and the change in Putin.

01:41:07.080 And I had warned him that Putin had changed from the first administration where Trump controlled

01:41:14.440 Putin to some extent.

01:41:16.060 Now he's out of control because that's what always happens.

01:41:20.360 That would Hitler, it happened with Mao, it happened with the Ayatollah, it happened with

01:41:23.980 Stalin right down.

01:41:26.400 Okay.

01:41:26.960 They get worse and worse and worse, and then they blow up and that's where Putin is, but

01:41:34.880 he couldn't do any of that without the ascent of the Russian people.

01:41:39.660 They are allowing him to do this, to kill women and children, a million Russian casualties

01:41:48.480 for what, for what?

01:41:51.300 Okay.

01:41:53.420 So I'm, that's why this book is just in the stratosphere and I was taken off because people

01:41:59.300 want to understand evil.

01:42:01.640 Finally, finally, they're taking a hard look at it.

01:42:05.960 And the Charlie Kirk assassination was an impetus to do that.

01:42:12.140 Yeah.

01:42:12.700 And I think it's also an impetus to look at the good side.

01:42:16.720 I mean, I think Charlie was just not a neutral character.

01:42:22.020 He was a force for good and for God.

01:42:25.780 And I think that, uh, that combination is almost the Martin Luther King combination where you

01:42:33.700 have a guy who is speaking up for civil rights, but then also, uh, speaking up for God and

01:42:39.640 speaking truth, um, scripturally.

01:42:43.300 And, uh, I think that combination still strangely, I wouldn't have predicted it, but strangely still

01:42:49.240 works, uh, here in America.

01:42:51.320 And I think it's changed everything.

01:42:53.360 Bill, it's always good to talk to you.

01:42:54.860 Thank you so much for being on.

01:42:55.960 I appreciate it.

01:42:56.920 Um, it's Bill O'Reilly.

01:42:58.320 The name of the book you don't want to miss is confronting evil.

01:43:02.380 Um, and he takes all of these really, really bad guys down one by one and shows you that

01:43:07.280 what happens if you don't do something about it, confronting evil, Bill O'Reilly, and you

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01:44:26.300 Welcome to the table.

01:44:28.740 10 seconds, Station ID.

01:44:40.000 Welcome to the program.

01:44:44.520 Welcome to Stuber Gear.

01:44:48.180 I was reading The Crisis No. 1 last night from Thomas Paine.

01:44:56.600 And that and the Gettysburg Address seems so apropos today.

01:45:06.200 But listen to this.

01:45:08.360 I mean, it is, you know, he is, he's writing this in around Christmas time.

01:45:16.120 And he knows that everybody's abandoning the Declaration of Independence.

01:45:23.100 Everybody's like, oh, you know what?

01:45:24.160 I think we're going to lose this.

01:45:25.220 I'm not for this anymore.

01:45:27.080 And he writes, these are the times that try men's souls.

01:45:29.840 The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will in this crisis shrink from the service

01:45:34.920 of his country.

01:45:36.700 Now think of that.

01:45:37.380 I'm seeing the exact opposite.

01:45:40.740 But it's usual and normal for people to shrink back.

01:45:45.540 And they see trouble ahead.

01:45:47.100 They shrink back.

01:45:48.800 But he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.

01:45:53.540 Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.

01:45:57.940 Yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the

01:46:01.980 triumph.

01:46:02.920 What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.

01:46:05.900 It's dearness only that gives everything its value.

01:46:10.740 And heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods.

01:46:14.440 And it would be strange indeed if such a celestial article as freedom should not be highly rated.

01:46:21.420 Towards the end, he says, you know, he outlines how bad things are.

01:46:25.400 And he says, but I have hope.

01:46:28.700 I have hope.

01:46:29.720 I have hope because I know our situation and I know who we are.

01:46:34.080 And I would go a little further.

01:46:35.900 In our situation, I have great hope.

01:46:40.020 And not because I know our situation.

01:46:42.120 I know our situation and it's pretty dire.

01:46:44.480 But I have hope because I know God.

01:46:47.280 I know what God is capable of.

01:46:50.260 And I'm telling you, we're seeing miracles on the ground right now.

01:46:54.280 We're seeing them.

01:46:55.360 You know, I don't even know.

01:46:57.780 We have Tommy Robinson on tomorrow's program from London.

01:47:01.660 And he just had that big rally up in London.

01:47:03.920 And I don't even know what's going on in England.

01:47:08.660 But my gosh, if they don't wake up soon, that is a failed state.

01:47:13.880 But people are waking up and they're taking to the streets.

01:47:17.180 And, you know, it's one thing for us to say, ah, you know, you can't, you don't have freedom of speech.

01:47:22.520 Well, you kind of do.

01:47:24.600 Charlie didn't.

01:47:25.980 But as far as the country right now, you do have freedom of speech.

01:47:30.320 They're not going to round you up.

01:47:31.400 They're not going to arrest you.

01:47:32.420 In England, that's not the case.

01:47:35.280 If you're carrying literally an English flag, you can go to jail.

01:47:40.160 They're outlawing it.

01:47:41.880 An English flag.

01:47:44.440 It's insane on what's happening.

01:47:46.920 Evil is sweeping.

01:47:49.240 But people are waking up.

01:47:52.260 More in just a minute.

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01:49:29.180 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:49:46.060 Today, the vice president is going to be on the Charlie Kirk show.

01:49:49.280 Begins just a few minutes right after this program does.

01:49:52.580 Uh, and, um, and then Wednesday, I'm going to be filling in, uh, for Charlie on his, uh, program.

01:49:59.500 I don't know who they have tomorrow, Thursday or Friday, because they're not announcing them because of,

01:50:04.500 I think they're letting everybody announce if they want to because of security reasons.

01:50:08.440 Um, but, um, I'll be there Wednesday and, uh, the president or vice president, uh, it's,

01:50:14.140 it's going to be fascinating to hear the vice president, uh, do Charlie's talk show.

01:50:19.100 Um, but that happens today.

01:50:20.880 Uh, also, let me go to Skyla.

01:50:23.600 She's in Utah and you, uh, have a suggestion for the people of Utah and UVU.

01:50:30.520 What is it?

01:50:31.120 Um, Skyla.

01:50:32.140 Yes.

01:50:33.060 Hi.

01:50:33.660 Thank you for your voice for all of us.

01:50:35.660 I just want to say that.

01:50:36.840 Um, I live near UVU and I've been to the campus this week, several times.

01:50:41.680 I have not seen anything regarding Charlie Kirk on the UVU marquee.

01:50:45.740 I am hoping to change that by contacting you.

01:50:48.600 I'm asking your listeners to contact UVU and demand Charlie Kirk's memorial be added to

01:50:54.220 the UVU's marquee.

01:50:55.700 I unfortunately don't have a phone number for UVU.

01:50:58.460 They keep giving me the run around when I call them.

01:51:01.760 Astrid Tuminez is the president of UVU and she is very liberal.

01:51:06.440 She's trying to keep this far away from UVU and we need to stand up and make our voices

01:51:11.860 known that she cannot hide.

01:51:13.660 I also, um, yes, no, go ahead quickly.

01:51:18.960 Uh, there's also a petition on change.org to rename the courtyard and add a statue of

01:51:24.220 Charlie Kirk to UVU's courtyard.

01:51:26.480 Utah Senator Daniel McKay also has a give send go fundraiser to raise the money for the

01:51:32.460 memorial.

01:51:32.900 I plead with your listeners to sign the petition and get this done.

01:51:37.400 Okay.

01:51:38.000 Thank you.

01:51:38.520 I agree with, uh, I agree with everything you said.

01:51:40.500 And the, uh, the university president is a coward, I believe.

01:51:44.060 Um, she didn't say anything until she was forced to say something a Friday afternoon.

01:51:50.120 Um, and you know, UVU is going to be known as the place that killed Charlie Kirk.

01:51:54.260 It's like Kent state.

01:51:55.380 I mean, I think I'm going to go to Kent state.

01:51:57.080 Oh, you mean, wasn't that the place that there was the kids killed and everything back in

01:52:01.760 the sixties?

01:52:02.420 Yeah.

01:52:02.960 Yeah.

01:52:03.640 That's UVU congratulations.

01:52:05.980 Um, and by not standing up and not embracing, uh, Charlie Kirk, um, and, and just trying to

01:52:13.240 hide from this, you're making exactly the wrong decision, but I wouldn't expect less from a,

01:52:19.040 a diehard progressive university president.

01:52:22.520 Um, let me go to a Liz Wheeler.

01:52:24.320 Hi, Liz.

01:52:24.860 How are you?

01:52:25.360 Hi, Glenn.

01:52:27.340 Um, you're my favorite Glenn today.

01:52:29.520 I can sense this difference in you.

01:52:31.700 When we spoke last week, we were both extremely emotional because our friend had been brutally

01:52:37.680 fascinated.

01:52:38.220 And I hear the fire, the righteous anger in you.

01:52:41.560 And I feel so hopeful in the midst of grief today, Glenn, because this is our whole country.

01:52:47.340 We're all rising up like a roaring lion determined, not just to post about this and talk about

01:52:52.960 this, but to enact change, to make sure that our country is not captured by this evil anymore.

01:52:57.680 And it gives me so much hope.

01:52:59.980 Yeah.

01:53:00.480 Me too.

01:53:01.040 I mean, I, I, I have hope because I know God and I see what's happening and this is a God

01:53:06.860 movement.

01:53:07.280 Um, and you know, it's one thing if it was just about political change, but I think this

01:53:13.480 is driving people to their knees and bringing people to God.

01:53:16.740 And, uh, that's, that's the only way that all of this is going to be solved is if we, if

01:53:22.960 we solve it through God and I'm seeing some really, really positive signs, um, Liz, let

01:53:29.240 me, uh, let me talk to you about, uh, something that you wrote, um, recently, I think it was on

01:53:35.100 the blaze and you said, I look, uh, I don't understand the sympathy for Tyler Robinson's father.

01:53:41.860 Yes.

01:53:42.260 It's heartbreaking that his son is one of the worst people in the country has ever known.

01:53:45.460 I get that part, but let's be real.

01:53:47.120 We're suffering a crisis in parenting in our country.

01:53:49.640 You want to make this case?

01:53:53.000 Yeah, I do.

01:53:54.120 And I want to first tell everyone that I say this with incredible love.

01:53:57.720 I don't say this.

01:53:59.260 Um, I don't say this trying to pick a fight with anyone or to trigger anyone.

01:54:02.920 I know the response online has been a lot of people have been saying, have been disagreeing

01:54:07.140 with me and that's okay, but I do encourage everyone to listen to what I'm saying.

01:54:10.640 We have a parenting crisis in our country.

01:54:12.860 I mean, on Christmas day, 2013, Tyler Robinson's mother posted on her Facebook page.

01:54:18.040 Um, we just saw pictures of this because her Facebook page was public of what he was 10

01:54:22.660 years old at the time of her child, Tyler Robinson, deep in video games and gaming.

01:54:27.180 And she made a joke about now that he's got the gaming equipment that he likes, he can

01:54:30.480 avoid us at all times.

01:54:32.160 Well, you don't allow your 10 year old child to isolate himself from the family to game

01:54:35.740 on the computer with full access to the big evil internet.

01:54:39.720 And then expect us to say, Oh, wow, you did everything right with him.

01:54:43.300 And he still turned out to be an evil murderer.

01:54:45.160 It's not your fault.

01:54:46.020 We're so surprised that the truth of the matter is Glenn and our country is right at this moment

01:54:51.520 for, for accepting the truth.

01:54:53.460 Parents are given a duty to shepherd their children's souls.

01:54:57.420 And that doesn't mean just buying them food or buying them stuff or carpooling them to activities.

01:55:01.800 It means forming their children's moral consciences and filling their minds with discernment of

01:55:07.140 good and evil.

01:55:08.260 And listen, my eldest is only four and a half years old, and I already know this is no easy

01:55:12.540 task.

01:55:13.340 It requires constant presence.

01:55:15.620 You can't outsource the formation of a child's moral conscience to someone that you pay.

01:55:20.520 It requires tough decisions as a parent that might make you unpopular, both with your children

01:55:25.240 and with a culture at large.

01:55:26.660 You have to live counter-culturally.

01:55:28.000 Your child might be the only one without a cell phone who has never even heard of TikTok,

01:55:32.400 or your child might be the oddball who goes to church every Sunday while his peers are,

01:55:36.420 you know, watching porn or doom scrolling on Reddit.

01:55:38.940 It certainly won't make you popular as a parent among your parental peers because nothing sets

01:55:44.460 other parents on the defensive more than when you tell your child no to something they

01:55:48.480 permit.

01:55:49.640 It means setting moral standards for your child, but also not just enforcing those like a law

01:55:56.020 enforcement officer, but teaching him or her long before enforcing those standards is

01:56:00.420 necessary to make that right choice themselves.

01:56:03.100 It means saying no to public school where the secular, anti-Christian, anti-American, morally

01:56:09.180 relativistic, and honestly, often downright Marxist indoctrination begins.

01:56:14.020 It means saying no to colleges that will indoctrinate him into a hardened communist revolutionary.

01:56:19.860 It means saying no to video games and the internet and cell phones, and yes, even friends and

01:56:24.540 peers who don't share his values, and instead teaching him that he must live with his eyes

01:56:30.200 to eternity, that his life is not his own, that it's Christ.

01:56:34.020 Glenn, we have a parenting crisis in our country because parents think their children are boss.

01:56:39.780 They pretend that their kids know more than they do so that they don't have to discipline,

01:56:44.120 so that they don't have to acknowledge right and wrong themselves.

01:56:46.820 Parents, especially my generation or one generation above, are godless themselves, and then they

01:56:52.920 wonder why their children turn out captured by the demonic.

01:56:56.560 So yes, I would not wish on my worst enemy, the agony that Tyler Robinson's father must be

01:57:02.300 feeling, but the time for truth is here, and the truth is parents are the first blind guardians

01:57:07.480 of their children's minds, bodies, and souls, and parents like Tyler Robinson's are not without

01:57:12.120 blame for the way he turned out.

01:57:13.360 Okay, so can I push back here with you because you know how much I respect you and I love

01:57:21.320 you, Liz, so let's just have a good conversation here.

01:57:25.320 What were your parents like?

01:57:26.940 Were they good parents?

01:57:28.780 Excellent parents.

01:57:29.920 So blessed by God.

01:57:31.040 They were present.

01:57:31.800 They formed me morally.

01:57:33.020 They were loving, sacrificial, the best people on earth.

01:57:36.200 My dad was a workaholic, and my mom was an alcoholic.

01:57:43.220 And I honestly, Liz, I don't know how to be a dad.

01:57:48.760 I have been faking it my whole life.

01:57:52.280 I have done my best, and I have fallen so short.

01:57:56.340 And I think there's a lot of people like that.

01:58:02.400 I don't know about Tyler's parents.

01:58:04.700 But the other thing is, 2013 was a different world entirely than it is now.

01:58:11.860 I gave my son gaming stuff at 2013.

01:58:15.440 Took it away from him a couple years later, you know, when we had the FBI at our house.

01:58:20.320 You know, and I have seen the indoctrination of my children, and Tanya and I have fought

01:58:28.740 for the souls of our children like crazy, like nobody's business.

01:58:34.320 And both of us feel like we fell really, really short.

01:58:38.400 I mean, we don't know what we could have done.

01:58:42.620 And then there are other things that we're like, yeah, we could have done that.

01:58:45.600 Why weren't we doing that?

01:58:47.140 And honestly, a horrible excuse.

01:58:49.540 We were tired.

01:58:50.320 Um, and, uh, just, just trying to keep our head above water with our kids so much of

01:58:56.500 the time.

01:58:57.420 Um, I, I just wanted to talk to you because I agree with what you're saying that we have

01:59:03.120 a parenting crisis.

01:59:04.240 I 100% agree with you.

01:59:06.860 Um, I agree with everything that you said about being a parent.

01:59:12.040 Um, my, my first thought when I read your, your post today was, um,

01:59:18.880 you're a young parent and you have no idea what is coming your way.

01:59:27.500 You have more of an idea than I did in 2010, 2013, um, because you're now seeing it, but what

01:59:36.200 our kids are going through, you, you've, and it's different again for you because you're

01:59:42.440 a little younger.

01:59:43.260 You can relate a little bit more to the culture that is going on.

01:59:48.440 Tanya and I both looked at this culture and we were like, I don't even know.

01:59:51.720 I don't even recognize any of it.

01:59:53.280 I, there's nothing that I grew up with as a standard that I could go, oh yeah, well,

01:59:58.900 let's talk to the teacher.

02:00:00.500 Well, let's talk to the principal.

02:00:02.140 Let's do this.

02:00:03.040 Let's do that.

02:00:03.760 Let's, you know what, let's go get some counseling someplace.

02:00:06.580 None of them, none of them were talking common sense at all, at all.

02:00:11.360 And so you only had the church.

02:00:14.520 That's it.

02:00:15.980 Um, and you know, you also have people telling you, your kids, your kids are going to commit

02:00:20.560 suicide.

02:00:21.020 If you don't do this, your kids are going to commit suicide.

02:00:24.000 My kids, we didn't give them a phone until the school required them to have a phone.

02:00:29.660 And I would have liked to gone, uh, gone to several, uh, private schools, but because

02:00:35.440 we're from the church of Jesus Christ, Latter-day Saints, every school, every, every Christian

02:00:43.000 school, but one turned us down.

02:00:46.020 Every Christian school, but one.

02:00:48.860 And I know some of the good pastors that run some of these schools.

02:00:53.200 And I went to them and I said, I'm not asking you to change your doctrine.

02:00:57.220 I'm not asking you to make special, you know, dispensations.

02:01:00.400 I want my kids to learn about your religion.

02:01:03.000 I wanted to challenge what they believe because they have to, wouldn't accept our children

02:01:08.200 because we were of a different faith and a faith that apparently was just too evil for

02:01:12.760 everybody else.

02:01:14.000 So, you know, I don't know what the situation is with parents and I don't ever want to judge

02:01:20.320 a parent.

02:01:20.920 Um, I feel horrible just as I did when that shooter, the milkman went with the Amish and

02:01:31.380 shot up all of the children in the Amish community.

02:01:34.920 That mom could have been the worst.

02:01:36.800 That mom could have been the best.

02:01:38.400 I don't know.

02:01:39.160 But the Amish went and comforted her immediately because they said, you're suffering as well.

02:01:46.260 I can't imagine.

02:01:47.500 Cause you know, you say what the father is doing, tearing himself apart.

02:01:51.460 Imagine what the father is saying.

02:01:53.340 And the mother is saying about gaming today.

02:01:58.600 The, the way they have got to be tearing themselves apart going, I failed.

02:02:04.580 I just don't feel comfortable dogpiling on that.

02:02:07.880 I want to be the person that says to them, I feel for you.

02:02:11.880 I really feel for you.

02:02:13.460 Now that doesn't mean I don't say as well to new parents.

02:02:17.460 You have no idea what's coming.

02:02:19.260 You batten down the hatches.

02:02:21.080 You don't give your kids gaming.

02:02:22.780 You don't give them phones.

02:02:24.240 You don't give them an iPad.

02:02:26.060 You're going to have to be with them all of the time.

02:02:28.700 There is no such thing as the childhood that you grew up in.

02:02:31.520 It doesn't exist anymore.

02:02:32.760 I agree with that.

02:02:36.300 Do, do we, are we saying the same thing just in different ways?

02:02:41.880 I think so because I don't want my words to be misinterpreted in the sense that I am not feeling heartless towards these people.

02:02:51.980 I literally wrote that I wouldn't worth, wouldn't wish the agony that I'm sure they're feeling on my worst enemy.

02:02:59.280 I wouldn't wish this evil on anyone.

02:03:03.860 I can't imagine what that feels like as a mother.

02:03:05.960 I don't think that calling parents to a higher standard or encouraging them to open their eyes is an indictment or judgment on, like, looking down my nose at parents as large.

02:03:20.280 I am a young parent.

02:03:21.200 You're right.

02:03:21.640 There are a lot of experiences I haven't had yet.

02:03:23.800 As I said, my oldest daughter is not yet five.

02:03:26.080 I have no idea what it is like to have a 10-year-old and a 15-year-old and a 20-year-old, and I fully acknowledge that.

02:03:32.020 But what I do know is when there is brokenness, and you are such a redemptive story, Glenn.

02:03:39.100 You come from a family where there was incredible brokenness.

02:03:42.220 One of the prayers I say over my children every day is for God to protect them from my brokenness and from my sin and from my mistakes, because it doesn't matter if you came from a good family.

02:03:52.220 It doesn't matter if you feel that your eyes are open.

02:03:54.460 We are all falling short of the glory of God, and I'm no exception to that, so I don't mean to sound prideful or snobby either, but I do think that we need to not calibrate our expectations for parents to meet just the lowest common denominator.

02:04:11.260 We need to call people to something higher, because the fact of the matter is, even if you didn't know any better than to give your son gaming equipment, even if these parents can plead ignorance,

02:04:21.080 we are in a culture now that has degraded the value of a mother and a father to just daycare workers, and that's not our role.

02:04:28.940 Our role is to form the moral conscience of these children.

02:04:32.020 Liz, I appreciate your point of view.

02:04:35.160 I think we're saying much the same thing.

02:04:36.740 I would just say leave the parents out of it.

02:04:39.000 Let's look for the new parents to tell them, because new parents are doing this every day, and it's got to stop.

02:04:45.160 Before your kid, you lose control of your kid in this society.

02:04:48.480 You got to do everything you can, and then realize you might still lose your kid.

02:04:53.760 Liz, thank you so much.

02:04:54.980 God bless you.

02:04:55.820 Always a fan, and always great to have you on the program.

02:04:58.240 You bet.

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 15, 2025

Is the Right Embracing Cancel Culture After Charlie Kirk's Murder？｜ Guests： Bill O'Reilly & Liz Wheeler ｜ 9⧸15⧸25

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