Is This the REAL Reason Trump Nominated Matt Gaetz? | 11⧸22⧸24
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On today's show, Glenn and Stu discuss the latest in the Trump administration as it pertains to his potential cabinet picks. They also discuss Matt Gaetz's withdrawal from consideration to be the next attorney general, and the Epstein scandal.
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Well, it kind of seemed inevitable, but it happened yesterday.
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Matt Gaetz did step aside, withdrew his name from consideration to be attorney general.
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So what were your thoughts on that, on him leaving?
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Gaetz was surprising from the start that he would get, you know, that he was named.
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I think that was kind of a surprise, mainly because he just has a lot of enemies in Washington.
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You know, they came out and they're like, well, the reason why is he's got four votes against him.
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They know that from everything I've heard, he had way more than four votes against him.
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The names you may have heard are the names who want responsibility for it.
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They like there's a lot of Republicans who were saying they were going to vote against him, but didn't want to piss Trump off and didn't want to be known as the guy opposing Gaetz.
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The ones whose name you heard, probably Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Mitch McConnell, those names were names that they wanted to be in the press as the people who stopped Matt Gaetz.
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The other one was John Curtis, the new senator from Utah.
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But I mean, that was pretty common in Washington.
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Now, that sometimes is a badge of honor, right?
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I mean, there's a lot of people who just don't like Matt Gaetz.
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And there's so much strangeness around his story and the backstory here when it comes to whether he was doing something with women.
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And it did seem like he had some periods in his life that were maybe not up to snuff as far as standards, moral standards go.
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So that is at least the there's more than that is the accusation.
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They're they're charging him with sex trafficking.
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Now, I don't know what I think sex trafficking.
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Like that's a type type of thing that pops into my mind.
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A flight across state lines with somebody who's underage.
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And by the way, all as far as I understand, all accusations are that he didn't know that she was underage, which is, you know, again, this is something you need to check and be thorough on.
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OK, boys and girls, this is a little tip for you and your life.
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Number one, if you have the question in your mind, don't do it.
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OK, if they have the question in your mind and you decide you're going to skip step one, check very closely.
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Now, what's crazy about this is the reporting is that she had a fake ID, which is not a surprise.
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Allegedly, who was a another person who was supposedly sleeping around in these types of arrangements.
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Oh, this is some of the people who are who are saying, hey, I saw him have sex with this woman, a girl, I guess, at this stage in her life.
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But the other part about it is he had she apparently had a fake ID.
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Hey, one of the stories is the ID came from Matt Gaetz's friend who is in prison right now for charges related to this, but actually had responsibility to issue driver's licenses from the state.
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So it wasn't a fake ID and that it was a fake ID you got from the Internet.
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It was an actual real Florida ID that said she was.
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I mean, I again, if you're close to the line, a good idea not to go forward.
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It just seems like what it seems like is the sex trafficking thing to me seems to be a complete stretch.
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So you're trying to make it look worse than it was.
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But like sex trafficking, it wasn't running a prostitution ring.
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You know, he seemed to potentially be involved in allegedly involved in purchases in this in this way.
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And I will say like I say purchases because, you know, they leaked the Venmo records of Matt Gates and they had this big I've seen this the chart they came up with.
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It's like, you know, it's the two guys, Gates and his and his buddy, who's now in prison and has admitted to all this and seemingly has a really crazy history of all sorts of craziness, like like targeting political opponents with like false claims of pedophilia.
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And so they have paint all the payment lines from this to dozens of women.
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Most of the payments are from this guy who's in prison to the women.
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Some of the payments are from Gates to these women.
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Now, importantly, there is even in their chart, there is no direct payment line from Gates to the 17 year old.
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There are payments from the other guy to the 17 year old, but not from Gates.
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However, there are payments from Gates to women and also payments from the guy to the same woman.
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Now, perhaps, perhaps they both purchased furniture on Facebook Marketplace from the same woman.
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They both bought eight chairs from the same woman?
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You know, I think his thing, you know, I don't know what his defense is exactly.
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It seems like it's kind of tied up into that he, quote unquote, dating some of these women.
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It doesn't exactly explain why the other guy was also giving them money, but, like, he
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was, it's also seemingly they were tied into a whole different conspiracy related to Iran.
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I mean, it is, first of all, gonna be a great movie someday.
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Whatever the hell happened here is going to be a great movie because it is seemingly
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true that at the same time all of this was happening, there was, like, extortion going
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on against Gates and his dad, who was somehow tied into a plot to free a hostage in Iran.
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Wow, I've not even heard that part of this scandal.
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Yeah, because, well, you may have actually, Pat, and you may have forgotten about it because
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the day this report came out in the New York Times connecting Gates to this underaged girl
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and this investigation going on, Gates went on Tucker Carlson, and he basically came out
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with this whole scheme of how his dad was being extorted for $25 million, and it seemed
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It looked like, to me, honestly, watching it, it seemed like Tucker Carlson didn't really
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I don't know that, I didn't hear that from Tucker, but it just didn't look like he bought
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But a lot of it came out to be that it was actually true, that this, strangely, like,
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this, the news of this investigation was leaked to the media having some bizarre tie to this
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other separate potential operation to free a hostage.
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All I know is, here's my thing, Pat, just backing up, because we're in the weeds a little
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If somebody's got that going on in their life, you might feel real, let's say everything
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He just was dating a young girl, giving her a bunch of money for random travel expenses,
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and had no idea she was 17, apparently thought she was, I don't know, 18.
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I don't know how much better that makes it, honestly, but let's just go along with this
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And then it comes out that there's an investigation going on with him, and it may be tied to some
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plot to extort his dad, okay, all of this, everything Matt Gates says is true.
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And one of his best buddies is in jail now for doing sleazy things.
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Maybe the best outcome is he's not your attorney general.
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You know, and I think, like, I can understand at some level, if I'm Donald Trump, to say,
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I want the biggest bulldog of bulldogs that will not blow me off, will not undercut
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me, who will be a one-minded, single-minded machine to take down the deep state, right?
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Like, I can see that coming out of Donald Trump's head and his mouth.
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That being said, you know, Pam Bondi's probably going to do most of that stuff, too.
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And she knows what she wasn't doing was hooking up with 17-year-olds.
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But, you know, a lot of those stories do seem to come from Florida.
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Anyway, no, but Pam Bondi's probably going to do a great job doing that, too.
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She's going to be really loyal to Donald Trump.
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She doesn't have any of the weirdness that I know of, at least, surrounding her that he
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It's just like, at the end of the day, I think this is going to serve Donald Trump better
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than Gates would, even if he did get through the nomination process.
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It's not like Pam Bondi's going to be like, oh, well, I don't want to get mixed up in going
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She's going to be, I think, pretty strong in that realm.
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I don't know that it was the best choice to nominate him in the first place.
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However, at the end of the day, I think it's going to serve him best that he doesn't have
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And probably, you know, Gates, too, to be honest.
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You know, when you have stuff that's questionable in your personal life, the more you escalate attention
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And I think, like, my guess is he can bring in Matt Gates as a White House counsel or something
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that doesn't need to go through confirmation, still get all of his input, still get all
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of his, you know, everything you get out of him in another role.
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He can help advise Pam Bondi, and he doesn't have to go through that confirmation process,
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You know, get all this stuff out and just admit to it, and then it can't hurt you in the
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And so maybe it's a good thing that all of this stuff is coming out about Matt Gates,
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And then he can do whatever it is he wants to do in the future.
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I mean, the most innocent explanation for it isn't particularly innocent in that, like,
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it's still, you know, probably behavior a congressman should not be involved in.
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We have noted, Pat, in the past that Washington politicians don't do that all that well.
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And Matt Gates is far from alone in promiscuous behavior, if you will.
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Now, if it's illegal behavior, it's another story, of course.
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But, you know, if it's him being, you know, like, you know, there's the other congressman,
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Senator Mullen, who had famously kind of come out on TV and said, yeah, he was showing us
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videos of the girls he was hooking up with on the floor of the house.
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It might just be that, look, he had a point in his life where he did a lot of stuff.
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He would not be alone in making bad decisions in his younger years.
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But at the end of the day, Trump doesn't need that.
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He doesn't need to make this any more difficult than it's going to be.
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But taking on, you know, the CIA and the FBI and everything else Donald Trump wants
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I think at the end of the day, when you come to the Gates thing, you're probably, it's going
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And, you know, there was some reporting yesterday.
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That Trump knew that Gates had less than a 50-50 shot of it being confirmed, but was
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floating this out there because he wanted to, you know, move the Overton window a little
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I think Gates wanted it to work out, but you buy that?
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I also heard that he was playing, that Trump was maybe playing 4D chess to get Gates out
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I don't know that I'd buy necessarily either of them.
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I'm more skeptical on that one because he could have just named him White House Counsel
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And that same thing, all this could have played out the same way.
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Donald Trump was president of the United States.
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There is zero chance this report wasn't coming out.
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Is he going to be able to get Pete Hegseth through now?
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I mean, there's allegations of rape with Pete Hegseth.
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His point is that they did have sex, but it was consensual.
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The story, you know, look, there's reason to believe that her situation, she was married
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and the husband was in the hotel and another room when all this occurred.
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So there's reason to believe that there may have been some regret afterward.
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He even said he noticed it before she left the room.
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Between this, though, and the Fox News thing, it's going to be a tough one.
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The whole Fox News thing is something we should talk about, but Pat may be more in
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depth, because that is what the media keeps latching onto with all these people.
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You know, everybody from, you know, Pete Hegseth to Sean Duffy, the transportation secretary,
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Not exactly Fox News, but Dr. Oz was also named to a position.
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Look, there quite obviously is a priority for Donald Trump to name people with media expertise
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This is not some shocking development that he cares about messaging to the American people,
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I mean, you can have a lot of really boring lawyer types that are behind the scenes doing
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a lot of the work, but those top positions are not just positions of governing.
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Like, you have to have someone who can tell these stories.
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You know, even the guy at the Borders are, Homan, like, he's a guy who can go out there
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You're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.
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But in the meantime, this whole Gates thing, you know, you have to kind of wonder if maybe
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it's like that college student that calls home and says, hey, mom and dad, I met this
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guy and I got pregnant and I just found out that he went back to jail.
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You know, so Gates is like, you know, it's a bad thing.
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And then the next person they bring up, they're just going to say, OK, that's fine.
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So it's a strategic move nominating Gates in the first place.
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And this is basically what Maggie Haberman reported.
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And Haberman is a left wing journalist on The New York Times.
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No friend of Trump, but also well sourced with Trump.
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He's one of these, you know, there's a lot of people Trump likes talking to in the media.
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And Haberman has been on and off one of those people.
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Jonathan Swan's another one who said the same thing.
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Again, another guy who's pretty well sourced in the administration said basically like he
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And he knew there was a good chance it wasn't going to work.
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And he thought the upside at the other at the at the other end was that they people would
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look at Pam Bondi and be like, oh, gosh, she's, you know, much, much more easily confirmed.
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I mean, she was an attorney general of a state.
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But it's interesting how some of the leftist media is responding to Pam Bondi.
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Pam Bondi is exactly what I was saying in the last segment that we should all fear because
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We may not agree with her ideologically, but she actually knows how to do this job.
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So if anyone on the Democratic side or anyone who cared about liberty or justice was thinking,
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well, maybe Matt Gaetz will screw this up and that'll give us some time.
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Remember, Florida is one of those states that's been very aggressive about migrants and deportation
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and moving people to different states and everything else like that.
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Florida has enacted all sorts of rules and laws to to curtail students and what they can
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do on campuses and and finding legal justifications for manipulating education money.
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And that's frankly worse than what we would have got with Matt Gaetz, even with the deplorable
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This is how I mean, this is what they do when DeSantis looked like he might run for president.
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And yeah, this is before Trump was even really talked about again.
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And and they always said, oh, DeSantis will be even worse than Trump.
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Like, yes, no matter who the new person is, they're always worse than the old person.
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And look, you know, I can see I can see this at some level being actually accurate in this
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case in that, like, Gaetz probably provides a lot of distractions and he might have issues
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when it comes to that that could distract from his actual goal.
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Now, he can come in and do all the same things he was going to do as White House counsel or
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So it's not like he can't be effective and can't do the things that would be helpful
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to the Trump administration, but Bondi will probably be able to shield a lot of those
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And as as was noted, she was the attorney general of a big state already.
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She's she's gone down this road, knows this gig well.
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She's been very loyal to Donald Trump throughout the years, even in some of the really tough
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It seems like a pick that will serve Donald Trump better.
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And I love the fact that MSNBC MSNBC is already afraid of her.
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Like, you want to set him loose on, you know, going in with a with a surgical knife and
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cutting out every vaccine mandate known to man?
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Do I want him as the HHS secretary and in control of one third of her budget?
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I understand wanting to reward what he did in the campaign.
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And and like we can talk about because he came out, he stopped and he endorsed Trump.
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He called Kamala Harris for the same arrangement with Kamala Harris.
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When you are in a race that is as close as it was.
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And I think some people look at back at the race and are like, oh, it wasn't really that
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The biggest margin he had in one of those in any one of those states was two points.
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But like because I mean, he won Pennsylvania by enough votes that I think I think it probably
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I don't think I think if I think it did help him.
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And I can understand wanting to give him a role.
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wanted to become president of the United States largely to run at the HHS.
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Like that's the thing that really motivates him.
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And I have I've been a little confused about the RFK Jr.
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thing from the beginning because conservatives were so willing to embrace this guy.
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Even before the Donald Trump stuff, even before he got out of the race, people were thinking
00:33:21.600
And I was saying back then, this guy is not conservative.
00:33:28.860
Don't be fooled by the couple of policies he's turned around on.
00:33:32.900
He's still a pretty hardcore liberal progressive guy.
00:33:38.200
And yeah, he's a little bit better on immigration, for instance.
00:33:42.000
He's a little bit better on he's certainly better on on mandates for vaccines.
00:33:46.360
I mean, we can agree on a couple of things, but the guy's still radical.
00:33:51.120
He's a radical environmentalist, for one thing.
00:33:53.380
And and like, I think, you know, the way I look at this, him at HHS and where my concern
00:33:59.340
level is, and it's not because I think he's going to come in and like there was this there's
00:34:07.500
a movement on the left that wants the HHS to designate global warming as a as a health
00:34:16.080
So they can implement all sorts of policies related to that.
00:34:22.800
Do I think there's any chance he does it under a Trump administration?
00:34:26.320
No, there's no way Donald Trump is going to allow that to occur.
00:34:30.300
However, there are thousands of jobs that RFK Jr.
00:34:39.580
Is he going to pick a lot of global warming skeptics to fill those jobs?
00:34:44.120
Is he going to be a person who's going to select employees that are animals to go in and
00:35:00.120
He's a guy that has at many points in his life talked about pro-choice up to birth, up
00:35:05.760
Now that doesn't, is he going to make it so that every state, is he going to somehow pass
00:35:14.300
Is he going to pass some wide ranging policy that forces Texas to have abortions at 35 weeks?
00:35:22.740
And he is incapable of doing that anyway in that role.
00:35:25.380
But Donald Trump would stop that every step of the way.
00:35:27.660
But is he going to find a person who is going to eliminate the regulations that Joe Biden
00:35:41.260
And now maybe Donald Trump can surround him with enough people who are like that to alleviate
00:35:51.260
And not to mention, like, you know, I have all sorts of concerns of...
00:35:58.600
That doesn't mean that Trump can't come up with a way to get rid of those concerns.
00:36:10.400
And I don't know that he needs another full-time job like that.
00:36:13.660
I think a better approach would be somebody who was a conservative, okay, that would have
00:36:22.560
many of the same views as RFK Jr. on some of these big issues, but putting RFK Jr. in some
00:36:34.000
sort of consulting role where he's going after specific things that you can monitor a lot
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more easily than something that's this wide-ranging.
00:36:42.500
That one makes me more nervous than, honestly, Gates or any of the others.
00:36:47.020
Like, because this is not a guy, even like someone like Tulsi Gabbard, who had a pretty
00:36:51.600
long conversion in the public view on many issues, that's not RFK Jr.
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He was running against Donald Trump for president three months ago.
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A lot of the same things you'd hear on MSNBC, he was calling Donald Trump right then.
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And we'll get into a few of these other nominees coming up in just a minute.
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Now, you may have noticed this, and it's been subtle, but you may have noticed a teeny-weeny,
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itsiest, bitsiest bit of anti-Semitism going around these days, especially ecologists.
00:38:54.840
This is following the October 7th events, of course, of last year.
00:38:58.880
And sometimes it kind of feels like those things that we were not supposed to ever forget are
00:39:03.940
Well, there's a film that's coming out today, right?
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It's today, I think, and it's called Bonhoeffer.
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This is what, you're talking about evils of anti-Semitism.
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It tells the story of a man who stood up to Adolf Hitler in a way that few others did.
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As the world teetered on the brink of annihilation, Dietrich Bonhoeffer is swept into the center
00:39:26.100
of a dangerous plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler.
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This is a true story, and, you know, we're talking about a guy that Glenn's been discussing
00:39:34.980
I mean, I didn't know who Dietrich Bonhoeffer was until Glenn started talking about him
00:39:39.380
And one time he said to me, he's like, someone's going to make a movie out of this guy's life.
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Well, you can find out today if that's true, because there's a great movie out by Angel Studios,
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They're actually giving free tickets away to anti-Semites, and you don't have to be an
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I think you're going to really enjoy it if you happen to not be an anti-Semite.
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You know, we talked to Glenn about if this goes to number one on Spotify when it comes
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out a week from today, this is his Cheyenne Grace, his daughter, that he's going to have
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to release also on Spotify a duet with his daughter, where Glenn sings on it.
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Yeah, you don't necessarily have to go through the whole song.
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Well, Glenn will address all those important issues if the CD works out well for Cheyenne.
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It's Pat and Stu in for Glenn here on the Glenn Beck Program.
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So who is this patriot that we need to hear about that has sacrificed so much?
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Rachel Maddow, you may know her for her tireless reporting on the Russian collusion scandal.
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And her efforts to keep him out of the White House so he wouldn't collude with Russia again.
00:46:38.060
Now, a lot of it wound up, you know, being proved completely incorrect later on.
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And she pushed through all those concerns about facts.
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You know, it's easy to go on TV every day and say things that are accurate.
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What's hard is to keep your job while you're spewing lies.
00:47:11.860
We did an interview with David Harsany, the author.
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He's got a new book out called Rise of Blue Anon.
00:47:20.380
Basically, hey, have you noticed that the left has got a lot of conspiracy theories?
00:47:25.080
I keep hearing them about the right, but what about the left?
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Seems like this is a central part of their ideology these days.
00:47:30.560
And unlike the conspiracy theories on the right, these are people who are like central.
00:47:40.600
First of all, have massive profiles in mainstream media.
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I mean, Rachel Maddow anchored election night on MSNBC.
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She's like the central media figure on the left.
00:48:04.140
And for that one appearance per week, she makes $30 million a year.
00:48:13.520
And this, Pat, is where the sacrifice kicks in.
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You know, they've got their hosts in the morning running off to beg Donald Trump for forgiveness.
00:48:40.080
Remember you invited us to parties at Mar-a-Lago?
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You invited us to, I mean, we invited you to our wedding.
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And then they had to kind of trot down to Mar-a-Lago to beg for his forgiveness.
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They're being spun off into a separate company because they're such a disaster.
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And this has forced MSNBC's Rachel Maddow to take a pay cut from $30 million for her once-a-week show.
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I mean, I got to say, part of me just admires her for this.
00:49:32.060
She's conned these people into a $30 million contract for one day a week.
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And now she's being praised for her utter sacrifice for $25 million for one day a week.
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If you can get away with that, I mean, of course you're going to.
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So, she's, I mean, this is a save-her-job kind of move, right?
00:50:03.980
Because being spun off like this, they're probably not going to pay exorbitant salaries that they are paying right now.
00:50:11.860
I mean, $30 million for her and one day a week?
00:50:23.840
Now, look, her ratings compared to the rest of the network are strong.
00:50:29.720
And like, you know, like when we go back to, you know, Glenn Beck was on CNN Headline News.
00:50:34.500
And he more than tripled the ratings of his time slot there.
00:50:38.880
That doesn't mean a lot of people were watching in comparison to like, for example, the audience he wound up getting on Fox, right?
00:50:44.760
Like, but because he was doing really well for CNN Headline News, they very desperately wanted him to stay at CNN Headline News.
00:51:00.500
If you're the, you're the best player on a bad team, that's still something.
00:51:06.280
And so I don't deny that, you know, she has some value.
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But I mean, the fact that they, like, the one day a week thing is fascinating.
00:51:16.320
Like, Jon Stewart comes in and he's doing one day a week.
00:51:19.540
And like, as someone who hosts a show multiple days a week, you may know, not only here on the radio show, but also Studios America.
00:51:32.880
Like, it's, the idea of working one day a week instead of five, like, kind of sounds interesting.
00:51:42.540
And of course, this is happening with podcasts now, right?
00:51:44.840
Like, a lot of hosts are doing, you know, their podcasts only a couple days a week.
00:51:49.300
And so you can see how that would be a nicer lifestyle, especially if you can make the same amount of cash.
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But, like, aren't you surprised that they're like, yeah, Rachel, come back and just do Mondays or whatever she's doing?
00:52:24.180
I don't think she beats the morning show on Fox.
00:52:28.300
So, yeah, it's staggering that they would agree to pay her even $25 million for that one night a week.
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For five nights a week, it's staggering what she's making.
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If you can get your employer to sign off on that contract, certainly show me where to put my name.
00:53:04.280
I mean, none of these hosts are even distinguishable, I think, to the average person outside of her.
00:53:12.600
Did you know Lawrence O'Donnell still is doing a show on MSNBC?
00:53:16.580
I only know that because we featured him in a montage of a whole bunch of hosts.
00:53:32.420
When do you ever hear about Lawrence O'Donnell?
00:53:36.820
Who do you think is in the lineup of MSNBC right now?
00:53:45.680
Would you be able to give this information at all?
00:54:13.700
She might be the most obnoxious of them all now.
00:54:15.980
She's the dumbest person, maybe, in all of media.
00:54:35.160
I've never heard the name Ari Melber before, I don't think.
00:54:38.300
I've never watched a show, and I don't think we've ever played a clip from him.
00:54:42.720
Now, maybe that's because he's just a fantastic liberal host making points that are just inscrutable.
00:54:52.500
Then, the readout, which is Joy Reid, who we have seen a lot of.
00:54:57.920
I will say, now that I see her face, of course she is, because she is legitimately the single dumbest person ever put on television.
00:55:08.600
And I include everyone on The View on that, I think.
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Now, she is like more, I don't know, has there ever been anyone dumber on The View?
00:55:18.220
Sonny Hostin and Whoopi Goldberg are pretty close, but I think they take a backseat to her, to Joy Reid.
00:55:26.960
All in with Chris Hayes at 8 o'clock Eastern on MSNBC, followed by Alex Wagner tonight.
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Alex Wagner brings years of reporting experience and insight to covering the news of the day, politics, and the cultural trends shaping the United States and American lives.
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This is coming directly from chat GPT, the description of the show.
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Then, the last word with Lawrence O'Donnell at 10 o'clock, and then 11 o'clock, they actually have an 11 o'clock show on.
00:56:03.080
You do know this host, because she was in the news recently during the election, had a big role in the election.
00:56:11.600
In fact, given one of the primetime interviews of Kamala Harris, remember when they were like, she's never going to talk to anyone, and then they were like, okay, she's got to talk to somebody.
00:56:20.540
Who can she talk to who can she talk to that will never ask one difficult question?
00:56:36.520
Again, I didn't even mention Rachel Maddow because...
00:56:58.920
Now, if I were to guess on this, Pat, I would say she probably slots in for Alex Wagner tonight.
00:57:29.040
I mean, I could do, I think, a better job with CNN's lineup.
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And I guess Alex Wagner tonight gets the three-day weekend every day, every week, which is kind
00:57:57.360
Now, they do have a picture of Rachel Maddow here, but they don't...
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For some reason, it's next to All In with Chris Hayes.
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You know, I almost feel like, are we getting like a Clark Kent situation here where like
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Proving once again that the Democrat Party is a death cult.
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Did you see that Joe Biden just gave the highest civilian award, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, to the former head of Planned Parenthood, and her name is Cecile Richards.
01:00:39.920
Who oversaw almost 4 million, 4 million deaths of babies.
01:00:46.520
And it's just a proud moment for America to give her our highest civilian honor for doing that.
01:01:06.540
However, do they realize that there are people dying on this planet?
01:01:10.800
And you probably do want to have, I don't know, some sort of replacement mechanism for the ones who go.
01:01:18.940
So that one day we don't just disappear from the planet.
01:01:24.900
I think that's what they're seeking is for humankind to just disappear off the planet one day.
01:01:30.000
It wouldn't be really all these people problems if it wasn't for all these people.
01:01:36.540
And including the globe warming by 0.9 degrees Celsius.
01:01:57.900
But we don't know that because it's been actually warmer on this planet in the past.
01:02:11.340
And that it does happen that the temperature drives up CO2.
01:02:18.300
And then other times CO2 drives up temperature.
01:02:30.380
This reminds me of a documentary I was just watching, Pat.
01:02:33.020
And it had some claims in there that I have not fact-checked myself.
01:02:45.200
They claimed that Joe Biden was still currently the president of the United States.
01:02:53.140
And I keep looking for a way to disprove this, but every time I check, there is a lot of
01:03:06.700
Like, I thought, remember he came out, he'd had the debate thing.
01:03:10.080
And he was really embarrassing and he was terrible.
01:03:12.060
And everyone was like, oh my God, this would be horrible if this man were president.
01:03:15.580
Quite clearly, it's just fading away in front of our eyes.
01:03:18.780
And my understanding is, and it's sort of supported by that last story you did.
01:03:23.720
If he's giving out these awards, I think he might still be president.
01:03:29.340
The other thing he did yesterday was he appeared in front of an NBA basketball team.
01:03:33.960
Now, he couldn't necessarily name what team it was that was standing behind him.
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You're not going to be able to name the team, man.
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When you've invited an NBA basketball team that just won the NBA championship, how would
01:03:49.260
You know, even if that name is in front of you on the teleprompter, it still might be
01:04:38.180
And by the way, it sounds funny until we enter World War III.
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Seems like it's been about a million years long.
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It hit $99,534.97 last night at like 1.30 in the morning.
01:07:19.860
So it could at any point, maybe during the show, hit $100,000 per coin.
01:07:28.880
I remember when, was it Tika Tiwari that said, it's going to hit $40,000.
01:07:32.540
This was when it was, I don't know, $300,000 or $2,000, or I don't know, something.
01:07:39.160
And he said it was going to go to $40,000 by the end of the year.
01:07:42.080
I don't think it happened by the end of the year.
01:07:47.740
Because I remember that first, that first like quote unquote bubble when everyone was
01:07:53.760
going crazy about it that first time was 2017 and it hit $19,000 and change.
01:08:00.520
Like everyone was talking about it all the time.
01:08:02.520
Now you look at the Bitcoin chart, you can barely see that little $19,000 bubble.
01:08:07.500
And what's crazy about this is you had a situation where it, you know, it fell off
01:08:16.900
In March 2020, you could have bought a Bitcoin for $3,000 and change.
01:08:25.280
And worse than that, when we first started talking about this, it was $300.
01:08:38.280
You know, it's kind of like a whim, maybe a risky upside play.
01:08:42.680
If you throw a few thousand bucks in, it'll be worth a million dollars right now.
01:08:48.080
Glenn has told the story about talking to, because he's the worst offender on this.
01:09:05.080
There's no doubt about that, but he could have been a billionaire.
01:09:15.180
And so now, now that it's $100,000, I'm thinking, jeez, I need to buy a Bitcoin.
01:09:28.680
In fact, before, and this is true, before I ever purchase any Bitcoin, the first step
01:09:36.080
I do, people are like, well, what's the research you do to go into that?
01:09:40.300
Mainly, I go to Pat and see if he's purchased any, because if he has, I know it's going down.
01:09:45.560
And I have really thought about this over and over.
01:09:47.520
I'm like, gosh, I hope it's not so, because it almost feels like if it hits a certain point
01:09:51.560
of hype, Pat might be like, you know, maybe I should get involved in this, and that's
01:09:56.580
That's when you know it's, like, the next day someone's going to hack it or something.
01:10:04.180
That's why I didn't buy at $1,000, or $5,000, or $50,000.
01:10:13.640
So, you do believe some people are saying it could go to a million or more.
01:10:20.400
That people say, because I didn't believe it was going to go to $40,000.
01:10:26.140
And so, should I believe it when they say it might go to a million or two million?
01:10:36.720
Well, here's the thing that I keep thinking of.
01:10:41.440
But what was true when I first started liking Bitcoin is way more true now.
01:10:49.060
The issue is with Bitcoin is there can only be 21 million of them ever.
01:11:00.380
And as a conservative who looks at the government and looks at government spending, and I'm sure this is true with you as well.
01:11:08.440
The inflationary cycle of the last couple of years was not a surprise.
01:11:15.300
There doesn't seem to be either side of the political debate that really has passion to cut budgets.
01:11:22.500
Now, you might say, okay, well, the Elon Musk thing that's going on with Vivek Ramaswamy and Trump, like, I have real high hopes for that, and I'm optimistic on it.
01:11:29.220
But, like, you know, the real cause, the driver of this is not, you know, even government waste.
01:11:35.080
It's, you know, it's these giant Medicare, Social Security, interest on the debt.
01:11:41.180
These are things that, like, there's not a lot of passion in Washington to cut on either side of the aisle, honestly.
01:11:50.020
So all the principles that made it attractive in the first place are even more prevalent now.
01:11:56.080
Not to mention, you have 21 million Bitcoin that can be, is the maximum number ever.
01:12:03.920
I think it's, they'll all be here by, I think, the year is 2140.
01:12:09.720
But most of them are already out there in circulation in theory.
01:12:15.720
We know that something like 25% of them are lost forever.
01:12:21.240
Because, you know, at the beginning, you could, you could get a thousand Bitcoin in a day.
01:12:30.240
You could, when you, if you were mining at the early years of this.
01:12:34.260
Just people not knowing their password to get back in and claim them?
01:12:37.840
Yeah, like, they didn't, they weren't worth anything.
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They threw away their, their, their, you know, accounts, their passwords, their phrases.
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And, you know, people were taking them and they, you know, at the very early years were
01:13:06.720
So $50 million for two pizzas and they were Papa John's, by the way, million, it's not
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like that you imported, you know, Sally's or Peppy's from New Haven.
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Now you would have had to obviously do the right thing with it.
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And the, by the way, the person who got them did not do that.
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He didn't, he just does not still have 500 Bitcoin and they are not worth $50 million.
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I heard you and Glenn talking about, about the, uh, the clear channel thing that we turned
01:13:40.300
In lieu of $10,000, we were going to get $10,000 worth of, um, clear channel stock.
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Cause at that time, clear channel stock was, I don't know, $3 or something.
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Cause if we would have done that, it went up to 90 and split and then it went back up
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And I think that happened three times and our $10,000 investment would have been worth something
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And certainly not many people like Glenn have multiple stories that are that crazy, but
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And I, I, what I, one of the things I come back to is, um, is, so there's 21 million, uh,
01:14:50.960
Bitcoin in the, in the, that can be possibly ever made.
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In 2023, there were 22 million millionaires just in the United States.
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So if every just millionaire had one Bitcoin and wanted to get one Bitcoin, there wouldn't
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That's just the millionaires in the U S not like, I mean, think about the millionaires
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Just to have one Bitcoin, there's not enough to go around.
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So what does that mean to the long-term price of this, especially now, because what you
01:15:39.180
have now is a situation where this is a multi trillion dollar industry.
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Can you think of an example of a $4 trillion industry going away?
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Like you were talking about a massive, massive thing that a lot of people have put a lot
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I guess you could say Enron, that wasn't a $4 trillion business.
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I mean, it was the seventh largest company in the world at one point.
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But yeah, it was a multi-billion dollar company.
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And so you just wonder like long-term where this goes.
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Maybe you have, what are your guesses are on this?
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They asked people across all different age groups, what salary do you have to make to
01:17:03.280
The term is financially successful, not rich, but financially successful.
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How much money do you need to earn as a salary to get to that level?
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So you're going to get an average over the whole country.
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Like to me, if I were like, oh, that person's, they got it together.
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I'm not, they're not, they don't got a private jet, but you know, they got a good
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I mean, I would define financially successful like you're taking maybe a nice vacation a year.
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Like you got one, you know, like you, but you can afford nice Christmas presents for
01:17:43.020
Uh, you know, you live in a nice neighborhood, drive a decent car, like not a Ferrari, but
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maybe, you know, I don't know, a BMW, like maybe you're going to BMW three series.
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What would you, what would you consider financially successful?
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Like that sounds like a person who's doing well.
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Not going to, they're going to be able to pay their bills.
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They're going to be able to do some nice things.
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Maybe they go, you know, they get decent seats to a concert a couple of times a year,
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maybe go to a couple of sporting events, like living a decent life.
01:18:16.660
So they asked all, they asked people, what level do you have to get to, to be financially
01:18:21.800
Uh, they asked the boomer generation and their answer was a hundred thousand, a hundred thousand
01:18:30.900
Uh, they asked Gen X, their answer was $212,000 a year.
01:18:37.800
So a little higher than, than your, than your estimate.
01:18:40.880
They asked millennials, how much do you need to earn to be financially successful?
01:18:49.140
A little less than Gen X, reasonable between the two other numbers.
01:19:04.660
That's what Gen Z thinks you, to be financially successful.
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By the way, the average across the country is $270,000.
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One, they just went through this inflationary period where everything costs so much.
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And like, they're like, holy crap, like I can't afford anything.
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To them, you got to earn $580,000 to be successful.
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The other part of it might just be like, the other one, I've seen this floated, is it's
01:19:46.180
And you know, you know, professional athletes make that, you know, millions.
01:19:52.420
So maybe you're just kind of comparing yourself to that lifestyle.
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And your idea of financially successful is not the two, you know, the nice home with
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the picket fence and the BMW and a nice vacation.
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But it's, you're living in a yacht and you've got, you know, dozens of models around you.
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Where people who are in their 20s put in a few thousand dollars, hit on some meme coin,
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And maybe, maybe your vision of the world's a little warped.
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I, I, and I think for Gen Z, their vision of the world is a little warped.
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Goes for pretty much every generation at this point, I would argue.
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If you had to pick out the most radical person in all of Congress,
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And I guess, I mean, you mentioned Diana Presley.
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Clay Higgins had just mentioned a quote from Martin Luther King, and that really set her
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And I'd also just like to take a personal note of privilege to say, please keep Dr.
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Martin Luther King Jr.'s name out of your mouth.
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Your perversion of his words and his mission when his children have asked you to stop invoking
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his name and perverting his work when he was a proud and unapologetic black man fighting
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for equality for black Americans and all marginalized people.
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So you all are entitled to your opinions, but not a denial of the facts.
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But I'm not surprised that you would deny American history.
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A colleague across the aisle invoked the phrase of, we must do everything to stop government-sponsored
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Well, I've just enumerated numerous examples, which is exactly why we have legislation and
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And that is why I'm committed to opposing this bill and urge my colleagues to do the same.
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I thank my colleague, and I appreciate my Democrat colleague, for example, find exactly the kind
01:29:27.620
of oppression of freedoms that we're referencing.
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How about we'll quote whoever we want to quote?
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That's exactly the kind of baked in oppression.
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Like, how dare a white Republican quote Martin Luther King?
01:29:49.580
We actually had a congressman say that just now in this committee.
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And thank you, good lady, for once again exemplifying the type of oppression that we stand against.
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And we will continue to speak freely because I'm a veteran.
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That's the Constitution I swore an allegiance to.
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For my right to speak freely and yours, good lady.
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You will never hear me saying how dare you quote anybody you please to quote.
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And that exemplifies America precisely the type of institutional oppression
01:30:54.220
that my colleague Mr. Cloud's bill, for which I'm an original co-sponsor,
01:31:12.820
It's an embrace of the worst moment of Will Smith's life.
01:31:19.440
I mean, he may have had others considering his private life publicly.
01:31:23.760
But the most, probably the worst publicly, yeah.
01:31:32.140
And you're telling a veteran that he can't, he can't quote Martin Luther King?
01:31:40.600
Which is essentially what he said in nicer terms.
01:31:43.760
Everybody on the, these people on the left are just so terrible.
01:31:50.920
Like Martin Luther King certainly did believe a bunch of liberal things.
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And by the way, Martin Luther King, not a perfect saint himself.
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But he also had some things that were really important that he believed.
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To be frank too, I don't care what the family thinks.
01:32:18.760
You know, I will tell you other members of their family are very clearly, Alveda King quite
01:32:25.240
clearly wants him to be quoted by people who, for example, care about life.
01:32:32.560
So there's no family member that gets the right to say whether another family member gets
01:32:38.800
quoted, but even if there was 100% agreement among the family, whether they wanted me to
01:32:51.380
So does that qualify her for the Mount Rushmore of awful?
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There's some really bad people in Congress, which is unfortunate, but true.
01:33:03.360
I, I, I, I kind of feel boring putting just squad members up there though.
01:33:07.260
You know, it's like, it's just the, the, I will say.
01:33:15.700
Who, who, if you have someone else we're forgetting, Swalwell has to be up there.
01:33:21.920
I mean, when you're sleeping with a Chinese spy for two years, and then.
01:33:24.720
Do you have the unmitigated gall to call out other members of Congress for anything?
01:33:32.340
Not to mention, he farts on camera all the time.
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If you have somebody, 888-727-BECK, who should be on the Mount Rushmore of terrible, awful congressmen?
01:34:09.220
So I, I, you know what, you can convince me to leave either Ilan Omar or Rashida Tlaibov.
01:34:22.020
Well, let's give some more evidence for AOC being there.
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Here she is talking about the Capitol Hill bathroom controversy, which has been going around
01:34:30.780
because there's a transgender person who was just elected to Congress.
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And so they're wondering, where is this person going to go to the bathroom?
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Not whether or not we're sending a long range missiles to Ukraine and allowing them to use
01:34:48.620
But let's talk about the bathroom situation in the Capitol building.
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And everybody, no matter how you feel on this issue, should reject it completely.
01:34:59.800
They're doing this so that Nancy Mace can make a buck and send a text and fundraise off an email.
01:35:15.580
It's just bizarre that you would say that it's endangerment to women by saying that actual
01:35:30.080
And how many years ago would this have been blatantly obvious to Democrats?
01:35:40.140
We know for like, I mean, just try to trace it back.
01:35:42.860
In 2012, Joe Biden blurts out by mistake that actually they're for gay marriage for the first
01:36:17.980
And it got to this level in a very short amount of time.
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The other thing is, the bathrooms in the Capitol building, do you know that they all have their
01:36:37.440
Well, and let's be clear what we're saying here.
01:36:40.780
Because it was used against Nancy Mace, just saying like, well, she's got a private bathroom
01:37:08.580
That if you've got a dangling man unit, that you don't go into a women's restroom with
01:37:27.040
And if you're going to ask it, you should definitely use the phrase dangling man unit.
01:37:31.760
There's no question about that part of the story.
01:37:37.500
So I don't want your dangling man unit in the women's restroom.
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Maybe you go into the family place that has the lock on the door and you go into that
01:37:47.260
where you can, where it's like by gender or whatever.
01:37:51.800
You could, it's, it's a family thing or it's a, it's, it's not specific to men and women.
01:38:03.440
And here's the thing, Pat, you might say, well, that's a, that's a very, that's a slight
01:38:12.500
Going to the bathroom in a room by yourself better than with others.
01:38:19.500
When you're walking, look, you know this and don't deny it.
01:38:23.960
You're a single man or woman and you're walking by and you see that family thing is open.
01:38:39.800
Because I can lock the door, nobody's calling, nobody's coming in and bothering me and starting
01:38:42.880
up a conversation while I'm there at the, yeah, I don't like that.
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You don't have some, you're not in one of those things where there's eight urinals against
01:38:50.600
the wall and you're in the middle one and the guy comes up and stands next to you.
01:38:56.520
You don't have to sit, you don't have, you don't have to deal with a situation where there's
01:39:01.060
no dividers, where if you're in a stall, there's an inexplicable 18 inch gap at the
01:39:13.060
You don't understand the struggles of men, Sarah.
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And at every sporting venue in the world, you encounter a trough.
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This is why years ago, Pat, I proposed the 28th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
01:39:44.420
Every time you go potty, you go potty by yourself.
01:39:58.560
Because cost is what the people bring up when I bring up this.
01:40:07.580
We're not just putting this through some government edict.
01:40:18.180
The only difference between a stall and a single person toilet is about an 18-inch gap on the bottom.
01:40:25.960
And for some reason, like an inch and a half gap in every single connecting wall, what you do is you get rid of the open space, which, by the way, who wants that?
01:40:51.340
And they now have some of these, right, where you have like, you just have a door.
01:41:00.900
And you go and you do your business in the room by yourself.
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You want to have, I mean, I'm fine with everybody washing their hands in a similar area.
01:41:15.940
But when you're having your private time, you have it in a private area.
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And if I have to lean on the backs of my transgendered friends to get this done, fine.
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We got the Mount Rushmore of terrible nominations here.
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Who should be on the Mount Rushmore of terrible when it comes to our congresspeople?
01:44:53.480
Well, being from California, we have an abundance of really poor congresspeople.
01:44:59.960
But I think the godfather of all Russian collusion, the Mr. I-have-all-the-evidence, Adam Schiff.
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You believe Adam Schiff, after what an idiot he made of himself, got promoted.
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But Republicans just can't win a statewide election in California.
01:45:28.880
I mean, I guess Schwarzenegger did, but is he really a Republican?
01:45:33.860
I mean, he endorsed Kamala Harris, so I will say no.
01:45:38.800
But, you know, you would have thought if there was a Republican that could win in California,
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Yeah, well, I'd have to put Nancy up there at the top.
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We've been talking about the Mount Rushmore of terrible.
01:49:06.040
Pat, you know, sometimes you come to a situation in life where you can give ground, where you can compromise with the other side.
01:49:12.960
And then you have issues that are your red lines.
01:49:22.000
I mean, if you're not going to charge him with treason, at least put him on the Mount Rushmore of terrible.
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Just carve his face into a mountain immediately.
01:49:53.900
Sometimes when you have this, like, the MVP voting.
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And, like, this year, they just had Aaron Judge won the MVP.
01:49:58.860
And Juan Soto finished third, both on the Yankees.
01:50:02.320
You know, sometimes you have, like, maybe two guys on the same team split the vote a little bit.
01:50:07.300
I feel like there's just a certain quality that both Swalwell and Schiff contain that make them special.
01:50:29.460
Do you discard him and just stick to the House?
01:50:34.920
If we do it that way, I mean, Schiff would still currently qualify.
01:50:43.260
So, we've also got, we got almost every member of the squad.
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We got Maxine Waters and Debbie Wasserman Schultz nominated.
01:51:00.640
Pelosi's, you kind of have Pelosi on there, right?
01:51:07.040
Legendarily terrible and so wealthy that she, her face might be caught in diamonds.
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They might use diamonds for her instead of stone.
01:51:18.980
If there's somebody we've forgotten, let us know.
01:51:27.460
Yeah, I want to, you know, ask you to leave space for my currently newly elected congressman
01:51:34.220
because I predict he's going to end up deserving a face on Mount Rushmore.
01:51:42.000
Well, I'm in Alabama District 2, you know, newly reformed in Shomari Figures.
01:51:55.920
Yeah, so he hasn't even served yet in Congress, but I think you're going to need a space for
01:52:00.940
I feel like we just got a call, like, you know, I was watching a high school basketball
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I feel like we're getting, like, that early call.
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You're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.
01:52:25.920
I would definitely, if we can go back and just base it on stupidity, it's got to be
01:52:30.340
Anybody that thinks Guam's going to tip over, you make the list.
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Now, we've got to make sure we don't put this Mount Rushmore on Guam, because Guam could
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My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and
01:53:07.700
That's like the type of thing that people will think, oh, that was AI.
01:53:11.160
That can't be a real congressman asking that question.
01:53:27.580
I do know the right word, but I shouldn't use it.
01:53:29.460
But there's something that Swalwell has that Hank Johnson doesn't.
01:53:34.740
But there's a stupidity with Johnson that's almost like you almost feel bad for the guy.
01:53:40.920
I don't feel that way with Eric Swalwell at all.
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Eric Swalwell and Adam Schiff, that's purposeful.
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How about our favorite American Indian, Elizabeth Warren?
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Now, again, we're crossing into the Senate there, which is not, I don't think, against
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the rules, but just thinking of how many people we have in the House by itself, it might
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be difficult, but she's worthy of consideration.
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But I'm going to go with Trader Mitch the Squish.
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I mean, he does look a little bit like a turtle.
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You know, for a Republican especially, he is terrible.
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Secondly, you know, he did have a pretty clear role in the Supreme Court nominations.
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But like, just him blocking Merrick Garland from the Supreme Court has to warrant him
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I don't think he's on Mount Rushmore just for that one act.
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I think we had one go under the radar from Hawaii.
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Now, the one thing I might say with Maisie Horano is the Hank Johnson aspect.
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In the Senate, I think she's the dumbest single person in the Senate.
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But again, it's almost moron to the point I feel bad about it.
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We come together as a community, as a nation to build this Mount Rushmore of horrible.
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And so, like, you might have a different set of qualifications.
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Listen, I think you guys have forgotten the king of all of this.
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Now, of course, that was the concept with Mount Rushmore.
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If there's a special Senate of terrible Mount Rushmore, he would definitely belong in that.
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If you're going back through all of history, he would be on it.
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I was thinking current House members and current senators.
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So, I'm going to leave Harry Reid off this particular mountain.
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Now, again, I think the same restriction applies with Barney.
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Because I think if you go back and you do historically, would Barney Frank be on there?
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I've not heard from him in a long, long time, Barney Frank.
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It does appear that he's still, thankfully, still alive.
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He should run for president for the Democrats next time out.
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I was just asking the other day, who do they have for 28?
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You know, when you're on with Pat Gray, you know there's going to be a Dick Gephardt
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That's like the defining characteristic of any show with Pat Gray.
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Can I give you my impression of this here, Pat?
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You tell me if you would disagree with any of these.
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But then, he's just so brazen about calling out other members of Congress.
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That everyone mocks you all the time and you feel like it's okay to mock others.
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Number two on the list, and in no particular order here, but it has to be Nancy Pelosi.
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Pelosi has put together the resume of a champion.
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It has to be carved into the Mount Rushmore of terrible.
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And she'll be terrible for a good long time because I can't ever see her losing that district in New York.
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But, you know, when she wins the presidency in 2028, we can, we'd have to take her off because this is for House members.
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And right now, we can all be happy and, like, act like everything's going to go well for a while.
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But, God, I will say she was actually technically qualified.
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But 2028, I think you're going to get real conversation for her as the nominee.
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For myself here, Pat, because I think we have broad agreement on those three.
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I think my third one or my fourth one, I think I would put Rashida Tlaib on there.
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I would even argue better than Ilhan Omar when it comes to pure anti-Semitism.
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Like, because, I mean, is she officially in Hamas?
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I think I would go with Rashida Tlaib as my fourth.
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People came up with some great names when they called in.
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And maybe we just make a big, we use a bigger mountain.
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We got some more nominees for our Mount Rushmore of Terrible.
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Yeah, some people writing in at Studos America on X.
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Steve writes, we're going to have to use the entire Continental Divide to chisel all these faces.
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If you're doing it historically, that's a good one.
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This one, though, I feel like should definitely be in consideration.
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Oh, she's a new one to the party, but man, she's fun.
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Yeah, she should be maybe chiseled into the mountain as well.
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There's an interesting report that's in the Independent, which is a British paper, right?
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They're getting this from the Puck News report on Joe and Mika's little visit to Donald Trump.
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The report is that they met with him over fears that then Attorney General nominee Matt Gaetz
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would investigate the death of an intern in Scarborough's office during his time as a Florida Republican congressman.
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Scarborough was the representative that happened when he was representing that district.
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And so, to head off any kind of investigation into that past?
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And that's not from a conservative paper or anything?