'It's All Been Done Before'? - 2⧸16⧸18
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Summary
In the wake of the mass shooting at a Florida high school, gun control is back in the news, and the pressure on Donald Trump to take action is even more intense than it was before. Pat and Stu discuss why they don't think Trump should have been able to do anything about it, and what he should do about it.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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Hopefully he'll be well enough to be back on Monday morning.
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As we continue to deal with the aftermath of the tragedy the other day in Florida,
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the school shooting that killed 17 kids, just horrific.
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And the fallout this time I think has been even worse than I anticipated.
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The gun control push this time feels even heavier than it was before.
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They're demanding that Donald Trump do something about this.
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I'm not sure what the President of the United States can do about this.
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He can't unilaterally do anything about gun control.
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Mr. President, it's time to do something with guns.
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Well, they kind of name a few things they want him to do.
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They want him to ban assault weapons, of course.
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And the Department of Justice released a report on the results.
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And it said it did not reduce the murder rate at all.
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And, you know, that is, there have been other countries who have gone much further
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and received a big fat zilch for their efforts.
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Yet they still claim this is the number one thing they want to do.
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So reinstate the federal assault weapons ban, which did absolutely nothing.
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And, of course, then they want to prohibit the manufacture of semi-automatic firearms completely.
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Oh, you mean so basically every gun that is sold.
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I mean, that's further reaching than most proposals go.
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By the way, further reaching than any proposal Barack Obama made while in office.
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Large capacity magazines are also one of the suggestions.
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At 19, apparently, Nicholas Cruz could obviously purchase weapons.
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And if you're a fugitive from justice, if you've broken the law, I think that's something that's already been done.
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He went through a background check and passed it.
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You know, I mean, again, you start you start getting to this point where you're just reaching for any time there's an indication of anything.
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And, you know, there's no way they didn't they didn't know that he had made the social media post when the background check went through.
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There's no way they would have known that the FBI didn't even know who it was.
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So they you know, how would they how would they have known it in a in a background check?
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I think there's a separation, especially with things like mental health, Pat, where.
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There's a separation between the left and the right, and we can we can say that, you know, they want to take all of our guns and there are many who do right.
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I mean, they're proposing semi-automatic weapons.
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If you got rid of semi-automatic weapons, if you're not a gun person, which I know I was not for most of my life, you might not realize that semi-automatic weapons means basically every gun.
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I mean, there are a few guns that, you know, there certainly are some that are not semi-automatic.
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But the very basic standard gun that you would own for self-defense is a semi-automatic, even a handgun, everything, a Glock or whatever.
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Yeah. But there's a separation where with mental illness where this stuff does come down to a weird disagreement between the left and the right.
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And I I am sure the right is correct on this, but this is the definition of, I think, the disagreement.
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The left looks at guns and says they're they can be potentially dangerous.
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Therefore, we should with any shadow of a doubt, if we have any shadow of a doubt, we should restrict their ownership to people.
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That's what that's what they think. They think, OK, this could cause harm.
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Therefore, we should be really careful about who we give them to. Right.
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The right, which is the correct argument, says the opposite, which is they may be dangerous or not.
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So you have to be really super sure the other way before you start taking guns away.
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And that separation is why, quote unquote, nothing ever gets done when it comes to other things like mental health.
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And these, you know, when people say, oh, well, terrorists are on a watch list.
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Well, the reason why that doesn't happen is because you can't take away guns from people because they're constitutionally guaranteed.
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You it is your right to be able to protect yourself.
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So only after you give up a lot of those rights by being a convicted felon, can you start taking guns away just because someone is suspicious of you in the government.
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But what if the gun looks really nasty, really dangerous?
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You're thinking of the scary clause of the Constitution.
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I mean, though, for guns, there's a scary clause.
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Well, there's a Santa clause, but there's no scary clause.
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It's funny because people look at this all the time.
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I don't know if we're going to bother playing it, and we don't need to get into it right now.
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But an endless rant about how there's no constitutional right to own military style weapons, assault weapons.
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That's exactly the constitutional right we have.
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In fact, the first ruling on this, when they went to ban automatic weapons, and they had
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a ruling on this, this is back in, I want to say, the 20s or 30s, and they went to, one
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And they said, no, you don't have a right to own it because the reason you don't have
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a right to own it is because it didn't have value in war.
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You were not allowed to have it because it didn't have a military purpose.
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And Scarborough's rant, which you may or may not hear during the course of the day, is
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Of course they are, because when the founders were drafting the Bill of Rights, when they
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were drafting the Second Amendment, their thought was, you know, eventually this government
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could turn on the people, and they need to be able to protect themselves.
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They just went through protecting themselves from the government that was oppressing them
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Again, that's why they declared their independence.
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So the thought process wasn't, hey, you know, people are going to be wanting a gun for deer
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And, you know, there's a lot of hunting and fishing going on in this country.
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Let's just say they can have some, maybe some hunting rifles, but not anything war grade,
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It's not even about, although it's a definite benefit, it's not even about necessarily protecting
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It's about protecting yourself from this government if they ever become that oppressive and tyrannical
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And of course, Joe Scarborough at one point was familiar with this concept.
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Joe Scarborough voted to repeal the assault weapons ban when he was a congressman.
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But then, you know, and people look back at this and, you know, they may remember this
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after Sandy Hook, he came out and changed his mind on that.
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And by Sandy Hook, I mean the time he started hooking up with his co-host who has liberal
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So when I say Sandy Hook in this context, what I mean is he was having sex with Mika and he's
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decided to change his mind because she apparently runs the Second Amendment position part of
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So Sandy Hook is in air quotes in this particular context.
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But he's become left of everyone, including Barack Obama, right?
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Like, yet he'll still brag about his NRA rating.
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95 when he was voting against the assault weapons ban.
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Yes, he had a good NRA rating because he was doing things that were consistent with the
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And, you know, look, I you hate to have these arguments.
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I don't I don't know that you can stop defending the Second Amendment because if you stop doing
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And I mean, how many times have they talked about Australia?
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They use it as the example of, quote, unquote, what works.
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Again, with Australia, all the studies afterwards showed no effect.
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In fact, in the case of Great Britain, I think it was triple in the immediate years
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And then it went back to about now eventually and it took a long time for this.
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But then it went back maybe 10 years later to about what it was before the ban showing
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it's not effective at all to ban these weapons.
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It hasn't helped in Australia and it hasn't helped in England.
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So I don't know why they continue to point to Australia and and the UK.
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Let me give you two quotes from the about Australia.
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There is little evidence to suggest that the Australian mandatory gun buyback program had
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The gun buyback and restrictive legislative changes had no influence on firearm homicide
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They didn't do what they're talking about doing here.
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They went way further than anything Barack Obama ever suggested in policy terms or anything
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They did something more like the Nazis did in the 30s.
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Here, that would be 60 million to over 100 million guns.
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You think they're going to go around and confiscate?
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Because none of these programs, the assault weapons ban didn't confiscate one weapon.
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And when they did that in Australia, there was no effect on firearm violence.
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They can say they want to do something all they want.
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But the something they want to do doesn't accomplish squat.
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And they still keep suggesting it because it's got, as we said yesterday, Pat, nothing to do
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There are plenty of people on the left who think this would be effective because they
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And honestly feel for the victims of these tragedies and think, gosh, what if we take guns away?
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The people who are on TV talking about it every day are not those people.
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These people understand that what they're suggesting, A, can't be done right now because you have,
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you could have done it in 2009 to 2011 when you had control of all three branches of government,
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So the idea that you're going to get that through Congress right now, they know they have no chance
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If you're on the left making these arguments and quoting the 18 school shootings this year,
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They are trying to get your money into their campaigns.
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And you hate to see people, random people who have good intentions, who just want kids to be alive
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in their high schools, to be utilized like this by political parties and activist groups,
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I want to get into the big, bad, evil, nasty, horrific NRA too, and how they own all our
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You're going to find out how cheap these people really are because it doesn't cost that much
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It's amazing how the NRA can own the entire Congress, while other groups who donate far
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much more money to the left don't own them at all.
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They don't even know what their opinions are, basically.
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I mean, sure, the NRA is not even close to the top donor of these groups, but they are
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SimpliSafe is the home security system we've been talking to you about for a very long
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I think they had 10 employees when Glenn did his first spot for SimpliSafe.
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And, you know, Glenn, I think, first took them on because of their technology.
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And now they are the fastest growing home security company in the nation, protecting
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And they just released their brand new home security system, the all new SimpliSafe.
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It's been redesigned, and they've added new safeguards to protect against...
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Well, they've added new safeguards to protect against power outages, down Wi-Fi, cut landlines,
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The all new SimpliSafe was redesigned to be practically invisible.
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It's not going to ruin the house that looks so nice because they're going to drill holes
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And SimpliSafe now has this great product, which is brand new, with the same great pricing,
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It's smaller, faster, and stronger than anything they've built before.
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Well, you're thinking, okay, well, it's only February.
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By the end of the year, here's what they spent in 2016, presidential election year, on Republicans and Democrats.
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So this would be likely the highest amount they've ever spent in any year.
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Most of that, almost all of it went to Republicans, of course.
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Spread out over, you know, everybody they donate to.
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They are not giving these candidates anywhere near the kind of money it would cost to own these guys and put up with this nonsense if they don't believe in the Second Amendment.
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I mean, that can't even be the top, it's not even close to the top donors for Republicans.
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I mean, because obviously you go to unions, you go to other groups like that, it's going to be a lot higher than a million dollars spread over the entire Congress.
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But I mean, even for Republicans, there's probably a dozen groups that give more money than that.
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Why can't these, you know, they talk about the evil Koch brothers donating all their money.
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Yeah, we did a story on this, I don't know, six or eight months ago or so.
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The Koch brothers were something like 18th in spending, and they were well down the list.
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It was, I believe it was Tom Steyer, the guy who's right now launching the campaign to impeach Donald Trump.
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And he's spending something like $20 million of his own money to try to get Trump impeached.
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And has it, I don't know, I haven't been following it, but has that happened yet?
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So guy running commercials on MSNBC where every single program already says that you have to impeach Donald Trump,
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that somehow has not been effective in impeaching Donald Trump.
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And he's vowed to spend like $100 million or something to get rid of him and to get his policies enacted.
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And the Koch brothers are the ones who are vilified continually.
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It's like the Koch brothers are donating billions of dollars every election cycle.
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And this is what I've never understood about the whole NRA owns the Congress thing.
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And every two years with the House, you get a chance to say,
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And if they have voted only with the NRA and you don't like that, you could just change your mind.
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The bottom line is the average person in America, particularly Republican voters, believe the same things as the NRA.
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They believe the same things as the Second Amendment indicates are legally required.
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They believe that your right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
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Because I guess the NRA was donating to them too.
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Actually, a lot of those people are donating to the NRA.
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You know, I mean, so does the NRA, is the NRA owned by the individual citizens?
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It's a lot worse when you're, it sounds a lot better to blame the NRA when in reality what they're saying is the average American citizen that votes for Republicans and believes in gun rights are bad people.
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And yeah, because when you're disparaging the NRA, you're disparaging their 50 million American members.
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That's a pretty good section, a pretty good cross-section of American people that you're disparaging all the time.
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You know, we've had a really good run with the market since, I mean, for a while now.
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I mean, going back to 2008, since it bottomed out in 2009, 2010, we've had a really good run.
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And a lot of people now are looking at their house and saying, you know what?
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I'm looking for something maybe a little bit different, maybe a little smaller, maybe downsizing, maybe just taking some money off the table and locking in the profits you've made over the past couple of years.
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To do that, though, you need to maximize this because this could be the biggest financial opportunity you have in your entire life.
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Selling your house in a nut market can mean, you know, setting yourself up for the rest of your life.
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Realestateagentsitrust.com was set up by Glenn to make sure you can find an agent in your area that has a really solid work ethic that understands that you need to be updated and be, you know, to do business in a way that makes sense, that you understand, that aligns with your values.
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So the White House has called the latest congressional plan giant amnesty.
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Now, all four Senate bills have gone down in flames already.
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So it's starting to look like they're not going to get anything accomplished, which may be a good thing.
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I mean, if you're not an amnesty fan, and I'm not, then this might be a good thing, because all of these are now amnesty bills.
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Yeah, if all of this fails, it just means Trump keeps his promise on DACA from the campaign, which is why, you know, part of the reason he got elected, right?
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So, I mean, he's wound up giving a lot of ground on that particular promise to try to get other things done, to seem bipartisan, whatever, you know, whatever, you know, reasoning you want to assign to it.
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But the bottom line is, well, he was talked about getting rid of DACA on day one.
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And what, again, his proposal is to keep DACA and expand it.
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And he still can't get Democrats on board with it.
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Nobody was talking about a path to citizenship.
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So we have moved from legal status to path to citizenship and from $800,000 to $1.8 million.
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And there was nothing given in return for that.
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And he's still a terrible person to the Democrats.
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So there are four bills that came up yesterday.
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So what it did was, again, though, these are things that the president has offered.
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Provided a path to citizenship for 1.8 million undocumented immigrants.
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So it still got over the majority, but it was not enough.
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Democrats voted almost entirely in favor of it.
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So that was more of a Democrat-leaning bill, as you would be not surprised to hear when it
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And so basically, this is like, if you don't give Trump money for a border wall, you don't
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Like, if he's going to give up 1.8 million, and he's going to give up path to citizenship,
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Now, Pat Toomey, this is the one I think is probably the most conservative of the bunch.
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DACA just talks about sanctuary cities, will penalize sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce
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federal immigration policy by withholding federal funding from those municipalities.
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This is the one, I think, of these four that I would probably vote for.
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Because it was specifically designed just to do that.
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I don't understand why they won't fund the border wall at all.
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They just, they won't, they're not interested in border security.
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Well, they do do this in some of the other bills.
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The Toomey bill, however, Republican from Pennsylvania, who's generally speaking a pretty
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good senator, came out and said, look, let's just address sanctuary cities.
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Let's just address that to try to get enough votes.
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Republicans and a few Democrats actually supported it, but most Democrats were opposed.
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The next one was the so-called Common Sense Caucus.
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And when you think common sense, I think we can all say the words together, Susan Collins.
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I'm sure everyone was saying that in their car.
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Because that's the first name that sprang to mind.
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So-called Common Sense Caucus was a large bipartisan group led by Susan Collins.
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The plan had gained the endorsement of Democratic leadership, which tells you right off the
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bat that it's not necessarily going to be a great thing.
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And this is what they thought this was the best chance of passing.
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It gave the Trump guidelines on 1.8 million undocumented immigrants would have a path to
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And this is the one that they said they reached an agreement in principle on.
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So it starts with all the stuff that Trump said he wanted and would give.
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So 1.8 million undocumented immigrants, not 800,000, but 1.8 million.
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Not legal status, but a path to citizenship, which is, again, a move to the left of both
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Also, $25 billion for border security, and that includes money for the wall.
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Now, there was a complaint you had mentioned about, because they pushed back against this.
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And then I think it was overall a 10-year plan.
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They did not give him everything he wanted here.
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And they tried to make it look like the wall would be built.
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But just like in 2006, when they said it shall be built, and it was written into the
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So the president and the White House pushed back against this bill, said this bill was
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The 1.8 million undocumented immigrants get a path to citizenship is what the president
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I mean, these are all amnesty, but with the exception of what Toomey wanted, these are
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all giant amnesty plans, just varying in their degree.
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Democrats almost unanimously backed the plan along with eight Republicans, but the rest
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of the GOP conference and a handful of Democrats blocked the bill.
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Last up, and again, like, that was probably the one that had the best chance of winning.
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And everybody was talking like, that was, it's a done deal.
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And by the way, the White House threatened to veto it anyway.
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To override their veto, which they didn't even have anything close to.
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Grassley just took what Trump wanted and brought it to the Senate.
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President provided a path to citizenship for 1.8 million undocumented immigrants who came
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Offered $25 billion to fund the southern border wall.
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Substantially, and this is the other part that he threw on top and has asked for from
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Substantially curtails family immigration and eliminates the diversity visa lottery program in such
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a way that would, as Vox calls it, gut the legal immigration system.
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Democrats opposed the bill completely, joined by a notable number of Republicans while most
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of the GOP conference and a couple of Democrats supported it.
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That was, it does not seem to have any chance to go forward.
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Uh, and, and again, I think like, it's not a huge surprise that, that, that would not
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It's just a surprise if you are a, if you're an alien and you come down from the planet
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And you say, okay, what's, what are the debate lines?
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The Republicans say they don't want to give amnesty to illegal immigrants.
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And the Democrats say they want amnesty for illegal immigrants.
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And in fact, their president passed a legal, they got it through without even passing a
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And then you come in, okay, so what's the state of the debate now?
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Well, now the Republicans are offering not only the original 800,000, but another million
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Plus they're not offering legal status, which was the debate before.
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They're now offering a path to citizenship, which is another huge step to the left on this,
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What they want in return is $25 billion for border security and a couple of changes in
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You would think you'd say, number one, wow, the Democrats have won.
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The fact that the debate is happening upon those lines, you would say immediately, no matter
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what happens with any of these bills, the Democrats have already won the debate.
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Secondarily, you'd say, why the hell aren't the Democrats accepting this?
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They are, they have been given everything they asked for plus more, plus more.
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They, the offer from the Republicans more than doubled what the initial ask was by the
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They reject it because again, just like with the gun stuff we were talking about before,
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it has nothing to do with, with illegal immigrants.
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They don't, that has nothing to do with their calculus here.
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If they, if they cared about it, they would have passed one of these bills.
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And you know, to be fair to them, uh, they can't pass it by themselves.
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However, there were bills in here, like the one Trump proposed that they could have voted
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But with everything we've outlined here and everything we've, we've just talked about,
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why is it that they, no one in Congress or the president, the administration can't come
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Look, here's what we've done for the Democrats.
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We've given them everything they wanted really.
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All we're asking is to secure our Southern border.
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You can't come to the American people and sell that and, and put that right in the lap
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I just don't understand how nobody can articulate these things.
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Nobody in the administration, nobody in the Congress can seem to articulate this so that
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we can break this log jam through the American people.
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Because I think if you outlined it for them and you, you set it up this way, look, they
00:32:14.900
And they, they wanted, uh, they wanted to legalize these people.
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We're offering a path to citizenship and still, still they're saying no.
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You need to tell them whether or not you want our Southern border secured.
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Do you still want the, you want the drugs to flow freely through it?
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You want terrorists to be able to freely flow through the Southern border?
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Or you want illegals to pour into our country year after year, as they have been for the
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And I will say this, uh, is that I don't, I don't know.
00:33:01.020
Is there a place for people like you and I, Pat?
00:33:05.640
No, because I, what are, where are the people that say, you know what?
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I don't actually think we should double the number of DACA recipients.
00:33:12.760
I don't think that a path to citizenship is the right thing.
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And no, there's no place for us in that anymore.
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And it seems like that's not even a possibility anymore.
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When, when the Republicans offer is to the left of what the Democrats asked for.
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It's impossible to, to, I mean, the only thing, the only Democrat stupidity is going to lead
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to something here not passing because they won't accept very, let me be honest about it.
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Terms that, let's just say in the campaign, Donald Trump knew he was going to do exactly
00:34:00.820
He would have never admitted it in the campaign.
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I don't think at the time he, I think at the time he honestly believed he was going to
00:34:07.160
be tough on DACA and he honestly believed he would overturn it on day one.
00:34:10.460
And he honestly believed that he would not give, uh, uh, you know, a path to citizenship
00:34:15.500
I think that's probably where his head was at that time.
00:34:17.820
But the bottom line is that's where now his head is in a totally different place and
00:34:21.680
he wouldn't, he would never get through a primary in a Republican field of 17 people.
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And now this is the Republican arguing position, not the Democrat one, the Republican one.
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And still the Democrats won't go along with it, which is the only thing saving us.
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Thank God the Democrats are like this because all they see here is an opportunity to oppose
00:34:45.020
And thank God they see it that way because they could get tons of stuff that they actually
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That keeps them from actually getting their policies done right now.
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And to get the, the, the wedge issue to continue.
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They want to be able to go to their voters and say, we're the ones going, we're trying
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We're trying to protect immigrants and they won't let us.
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I mean, you know, 99% of people are not going to do just the research that listening to this
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Just listening to what the four votes were and how they went down.
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It was a terrible day for, for, uh, the United States yesterday for our Olympians.
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Uh, but the other day when the women's USA hockey team played Canada, lost two to one,
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there was that huge fight that broke out at the end of it.
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It was just a brawl at the end of the, at the end of the match.
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And like, it's weird because they're all in the hockey costumes, so you can't necessarily
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tell their women until they take their, and then there's just, and then it's like, it's
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Maybe I should have thought, well, yeah, of course, it's a hockey match.
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If not liking watching women hit women is sexist, I'm sexist.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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He's been, uh, you know, feigning this illness since, uh, Valentine's Day.
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She, she's obviously aware you blew it on Valentine's Day.
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Just get her, you know, order something from, you know, 1-800-Flowers, get on Amazon, get
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First of all, we heard he was a white supremacist.
00:39:34.340
And, and that was my first instinct when I heard that is usually the pathway here is someone
00:39:40.340
murders someone, the name leaks out, and then reporters, people on the internet, et
00:39:46.440
cetera, do their research and discover his name posted on a message board or some website
00:39:53.260
somewhere and they say, oh, he's tied to this extremist group or that extremist group.
00:40:04.120
And then immediately there were, uh, those from this group called, what is it?
00:40:09.460
The Republic of Florida, which Republic of Florida is a white supremacist, uh, it's a
00:40:14.620
white nationalist group in that they believe they want to basically make Florida into its
00:40:18.080
own country, um, and withdraw and only pretty, I think pretty much only white people can be
00:40:23.500
in it, which would be just from a logistical standpoint, difficult.
00:40:27.760
It would be, you know, a lot of transportation costs.
00:40:32.320
So, uh, they, that they, the, one of the founders of this group comes out and says, oh yeah, he
00:40:38.960
was, he comes and he does exercises with us all the time, military exercises.
00:40:42.440
And you know, yeah, he's, he's there all the time.
00:40:44.540
And look, you know, we didn't, we, we actually bought a gun for him at one point.
00:40:47.920
Like what person they're in the middle of a, of a mass murder and you're admitting to
00:40:57.860
And, um, it was a bad idea, although a different kind of bad idea.
00:41:01.420
Apparently just this guy was trying to get, you know, uh, attention for his group.
00:41:07.840
Uh, he now seemingly is admitting and local police have also, uh, revealed that there is
00:41:15.120
no tie between this guy and the white supremacy group.
00:41:17.740
And it's interesting to see this happen because these are the sorts of stories that set people's
00:41:24.760
They heard this, this was unchallenged for a day.
00:41:27.420
And now they're going to believe, I mean, some percentage of, of the public is going to
00:41:31.380
believe till the end of time that this guy was a white supremacist.
00:41:34.400
Uh, we have no evidence that that's actually true.
00:41:36.600
It may be true, but as of right now, we have no evidence to believe that he was associated
00:41:42.520
I guess the guy who runs it is just sort of a troll, always looking for attention, constantly
00:41:48.840
He's, you know, and one of these guys that, you know, is constantly looking for this sort
00:41:53.200
of negative attention because he believes it puts him on, you know, that side of, you
00:41:59.000
And again, he's a white supremacist, so he's nuts.
00:42:04.760
And by the way, I believe it was the ADL that initially did this, initially reported this,
00:42:12.760
And so it seems like they're, that was them spreading fake news, essentially.
00:42:21.120
FBI is under fire a little bit too over this guy because there was a person in Tennessee
00:42:27.080
who's a big YouTuber and he saw this guy's post about how he was going to become a professional
00:42:35.160
To his credit, the guy in Tennessee alerted the FBI right away.
00:42:40.100
Did, did all, you know, see something, say something.
00:42:43.820
And the FBI came and, and talked to him about it, but they never got to, uh, the shooter.
00:42:51.260
I mean, cause if see something, say something only works, there's another step after that.
00:42:56.480
If someone does something about the something that was said.
00:43:01.340
The guy who saw the comment and the comment said, I'm going to be a, I want to be a professional
00:43:06.900
And so he went to YouTube first of all and said, Hey, there's this comment out there and went
00:43:12.100
to the FBI and said, Hey, there's this comment out there and seemingly took screenshots and
00:43:15.780
stuff because YouTube's response was, that's a bad comment.
00:43:19.840
So they deleted his comment and the name of the user was the same as the name of the
00:43:32.740
Um, so, uh, at some point they said, okay, look, we have this name and it was his real
00:43:41.260
It wasn't like, yeah, it was, it was like the name.
00:43:43.600
So you would think, well, the FBI can track down the guy with his, I don't know, name.
00:43:50.460
I mean, like I'm, I'm a little bit more, uh, forgiving, I think on these things, because
00:43:57.120
you think about the, how does this work with the FBI?
00:44:00.200
They're getting thousands and thousands and thousands of these tips every day.
00:44:05.320
99% of them mean nothing and don't lead to anything.
00:44:10.020
So you get this, they don't know where the person was.
00:44:13.380
This isn't an entirely, uh, uncommon name though.
00:44:16.960
The spelling was a little bit uncommon, more uncommon, but it's not an uncommon name.
00:44:21.120
And so they didn't, but they didn't know it was in Florida.
00:44:23.480
They didn't know it was this person's name from Florida.
00:44:28.720
Uh, they didn't know anything other than just the screenshot.
00:44:35.580
So they would have had to go through and, you know, I guess get some sort of subpoena or
00:44:40.700
some sort of warrant to get the information of the IP address and then track the IP address.
00:44:46.120
And I think the thought was, um, there's not enough to go on.
00:44:58.020
It's a big program where they can, there's many of them, right?
00:45:06.560
There's, there's several of these things and you would think, well, one of those could
00:45:10.080
have been employed and maybe they tracked the guy down.
00:45:18.100
Now, I mentioned yesterday that they, you know, maybe you should have done more than
00:45:23.020
And somebody said, well, what do you want them to put him on jail?
00:45:26.100
Well, no, but you show up and you talk to the guy.
00:45:30.180
If somebody makes a threat against the president, the secret service certainly shows up and talks
00:45:34.460
to you and just kind of assesses where they think you might be.
00:45:40.660
And, and the, and if the FBI had done that and somebody was onto him, does that alter what
00:45:50.080
I mean, you certainly would like to take the risk, right?
00:45:52.660
We know how it turned out when they didn't do it.
00:45:55.600
You know, they did call back the guy who reported it and they talked to him about it,
00:46:01.960
And so, you know, and I think that I'm a little bit, with all these threats coming in and so
00:46:08.300
much that they're dealing with, they see this one comment and there's so many people online
00:46:14.080
I mean, we get death threats every day on social media.
00:46:17.560
We could call the FBI on these things every day.
00:46:25.600
99.9% of them are just people being jerks because they think they're anonymous and they
00:46:33.060
So you'd think that's a strange step and maybe that warrants more examination, but I think
00:46:39.140
it's true if, let's say they knew where the person was.
00:46:42.040
Let's say he had Florida next to his name and they went to Florida, found the guy, went
00:46:51.500
I mean, just that, you know, he hadn't actually done a school shooting, right?
00:46:56.620
And even if you assess him and you say, this guy's a little bit of a danger, then what
00:47:05.620
I don't know, but do you have probable cause to search his house and find his weapons cash?
00:47:10.660
But maybe he doesn't, I mean, he didn't at that time have the weapons cash, right?
00:47:14.820
And so I think Democrats would say here, if someone posts a comment like that, you put
00:47:19.980
them on a list that means that they can't purchase firearms, right?
00:47:23.260
Like this would be one of their steps, I would say, right?
00:47:25.740
They, cause they said the same thing with terrorists.
00:47:27.520
They said the same thing with anyone who has any hint of mental illness.
00:47:30.040
I mean, I love the idea cause this, this spreads fast.
00:47:36.400
So now you're everyone in his house, anyone in the house that has someone with a mental
00:47:40.260
illness, you're not allowed to have, um, uh, firearm purchases.
00:47:46.920
And it's why Republicans and conservatives and people who care about the second amendment
00:47:50.100
are so hesitant to go anywhere near these things because they can escalate so quickly.
00:47:55.160
But even if you go there, Pat, and you say, Hey, look, you know, you posted this comment
00:47:59.240
and that person says, well, you know, I mean, I shouldn't have done it.
00:48:04.140
And then two years later, he, he goes in and shoots up a bunch of people.
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You're going to look incompetent in retrospect, but there's probably 50,000 of these people
00:48:12.720
with the same exact thing happened that they didn't check out that didn't wind up shooting
00:48:16.380
And now we're kind of looking back in reverse engineering what they should have done when
00:48:21.300
the job is a lot more difficult than I think that, you know, we were just kind of throwing
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The, and I go back and forth on this because part of me sees this Edward Snowden vision of
00:48:32.200
they have every piece of information and they can do whatever they want.
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And part of me sees this sort of generally speaking, I don't know, incompetent group
00:48:40.820
of people that like, Oh, they, he said he's going to kill someone.
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You know, there's something in the middle there.
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And, uh, but it is really frustrating when the guy under his real name said the thing
00:49:02.060
And the FBI was alerted and still there's nothing we can do.
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He said he was going to do it online under his real name.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program, Triple A.
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I don't know that I've ever heard a less self-aware, more outrageous, or hypocritically ironic statement
00:51:15.120
than the one that came from Senator Kamala Harris.
00:51:19.760
It is just absolutely astounding what she said about this shooting.
00:51:25.360
And you might think when you hear what she said, she was actually speaking about something else.
00:51:32.360
But no, she's talking about gun control, of course, in the wake of this shooting.
00:51:43.440
As a prosecutor for years in appreciating homicide.
00:51:55.200
Being able to talk with a judge about it and a jury about it, I had to look at autopsy photographs.
00:52:02.040
When you see the effect of this extreme violence on a human body, and especially the body of a child,
00:52:11.080
maybe it will shock some people into understanding this cannot be a political issue.
00:52:22.920
And we cannot tolerate a society and live in a country with any level of pride when our babies are being slaughtered.
00:52:34.420
We can't support a society or live in a civilization with any level of pride when our babies are being slaughtered.
00:52:43.680
They don't seem to have any problem with 60 million babies having been slaughtered in the last 45 years since Roe v. Wade.
00:52:54.740
You can't use the word babies when you're pandering to your gun control crowd.
00:53:01.960
And when you have a 100% rating from NARAL, you shouldn't be talking about babies and the slaughter thereof.
00:53:09.940
There is no bigger slaughter than the slaughter of American babies in the last 45 years.
00:53:25.120
Nothing on earth has killed more people other than communism.
00:53:36.400
And nothing in the United States of America, nothing has killed more people than 58 million.
00:53:43.580
It's the biggest slaughter in American history.
00:53:46.660
As you point out, 58 million is just the American number.
00:53:53.200
And it does exceed probably infectious disease is a pretty bad one.
00:54:00.940
I mean, you wouldn't include the Middle Ages with that.
00:54:02.820
But in the last 100 years, nothing has killed more people than abortion.
00:54:07.520
Nothing has slaughtered more babies, to use her term.
00:54:11.100
I mean, that is phenomenal that she chose those words when she has no problem with the slaughter of babies.
00:54:19.720
Because she's all about looking at autopsy photos.
00:54:25.180
There's always the truck that drives around near the Super Bowl that has the big picture of a fetus that had been dismembered on the side of it to try to impact people on abortion.
00:54:36.480
I mean, that's really fascinating because she says a bunch of things here that we should adopt and use in this discussion.
00:54:45.460
Let's listen one more time and really kind of dissect what you said.
00:54:55.520
As a prosecutor for years in appreciating homicide and being able to talk with a judge about it and a jury about it.
00:55:07.980
When you see the effect of this extreme violence on a human body, and especially the body of a child.
00:55:20.140
Maybe it will shock some people into understanding.
00:55:24.720
This is exactly why the people who show the photos of aborted babies, this is exactly why they do it.
00:55:37.720
Is Kamala Harris going to be treated as a freak here?
00:55:52.480
We've slaughtered 58 million babies in 45 years.
00:56:11.620
In a place like New York City, where more black babies are aborted than born,
00:56:24.880
I mean, it's funny because there's that constant call from the left to call Republicans racists,
00:56:38.020
Let's implement the craziest fringe stuff from all of our policies in which there is no race-based
00:56:46.220
They talk about that with affirmative action or preference in schools, like getting admission
00:56:55.380
The other part is you'd have to implement our idea that we shouldn't abort children.
00:56:59.480
And so millions and millions of black people who are currently dead would instead be alive.
00:57:04.240
So your policies are ones that result in black people being dead.
00:57:12.000
I bet it's such an, it's such a ridiculous argument from, from the left.
00:57:17.900
I support the second amendment, but we have to have, we have to have smart gun safety.
00:57:23.820
I support the choice of a woman, but we have to, we have to understand that there's another
00:57:29.840
There's a whole separate DNA strand inside your body, which is a separate body from yours.
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Now I support your choice, but you made that choice when you got pregnant, you know, in
00:57:45.640
If you didn't make that choice, then, you know, we've got a different issue, but, but I support
00:57:52.340
your right to choose at a certain step, but we got to have some common sense about this
00:57:58.260
too, because we can't continue the slaughter of 58 million babies.
00:58:03.260
And we cannot tolerate a society and, and, and live in a country with any level of pride
00:58:12.100
I mean, she's just given us all kinds of ammunition there.
00:58:18.720
Triple eight, seven, two, seven, B E C K can't support the slaughter.
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And we can't be proud in a nation that allows the slaughter of babies.
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We're trying to take away people's right to choose.
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Uh, so 33,000 people are murdered by guns every single year.
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You want to address the fact that it's not actually 33,000 people?
01:00:26.020
More like 150,000 or, I don't know, 3.6 million.
01:00:30.600
How many, how many people, uh, are being killed by guns every year in this country?
01:00:36.480
The murder statistics don't exactly support the 33,000 number, um, or 32,000 number that's
01:00:53.220
Because the thing that they usually leave out of that stat, 32,352 gun deaths is what
01:00:57.740
they, what they talk about from the CDC, uh, 21,175 of them were suicides.
01:01:06.100
Now, that is an incredible, oh, that's amazing.
01:01:09.040
Incredible statistic because, you know, look, because if you're going to commit suicide,
01:01:14.600
there's a, there's a lot of different ways to do it.
01:01:17.360
That's 65% of these, by the way, 65.4% of the number are suicides.
01:01:23.880
Now, look, for example, Japan has a much higher suicide rate than the United States, but almost
01:01:29.720
no guns whatsoever because culturally that's a big deal, uh, there and not a, not a good
01:01:38.160
So they have a higher suicide rate, but almost no gun crime at all.
01:01:41.980
There's no guns available for people to kill themselves yet.
01:01:48.300
There's hangings, there's overdoses, there's all sorts of things that you can do to kill yourself
01:01:52.500
it is not, uh, it's not difficult to do if you want to do it.
01:01:57.020
And that is, uh, obviously terrible and tragic, but is not really part of the conversation
01:02:03.180
If you want to kill yourself, you can kill yourself in a million different ways.
01:02:17.660
Now, if you look at that number a little bit further, uh, 8,583 were murders of various
01:02:25.360
The remaining, uh, 2,500 were accidents and unintentional injuries.
01:02:30.160
And, uh, uh, which again is, I think you could make an argument that that is part of the gun
01:02:36.800
Like, you know, there are some people who have accidents, handle guns poorly, they get in
01:02:40.600
the hands of children, whatever the situation is.
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However, that's not going to be affected by an assault weapons ban, right?
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A kid who picks up a gun probably isn't going to pick up the AR-15.
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It's going to be very difficult for them to handle, right?
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Um, and God forbid do something, uh, bad with that.
01:02:58.820
So, really, it's not, it's not, it's part of the gun conversation generally, I think
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However, it is not part of the school shooting conversation.
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It's just, I mean, so it leaves you with 8,583 deaths that were murders.
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Um, that is, uh, you got to break those down a little bit more as well.
01:03:30.760
Uh, so about what, uh, one study after another shown legally purchased weapons, which follow
01:03:36.520
the, all the normal firearms transfer rules accounted for somewhere between six and eight
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So you round that off to 10, you got about 850 of those murders that actually happened through,
01:03:52.720
Now, you know, let's say a person who goes through a background check and does all the things
01:04:00.660
Pat Gray owns, uh, multiple firearms and has them at the house.
01:04:04.360
If someone breaks in and for some reason, uh, they're not kept in your liberty safe for
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whatever reason and they take, uh, those guns, uh, and they go and kill someone like there's
01:04:18.360
The person was willing to break into your home and steal your gun and they are going to go
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That's not, there's, there's no background check that covers that problem.
01:04:28.340
It's interesting to know that if you're willing to kill people, you're probably willing to break
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Cause it seems like that's like the highest law, right?
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Like if there's the one, cause I think there's a lot of people who will say, you know what?
01:04:42.340
I'll steal from, I'll steal a purse from someone on the street.
01:04:46.160
I'll do all sorts of terrible things, engage in crimes after crime, after crime, but I'm
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There's a large chunk of the criminal population.
01:04:59.160
I think there's a lot of crimes of convenience.
01:05:01.860
There are crimes of, uh, of, uh, the ability to be able to feed yourself or be able to just
01:05:09.520
There's a lot of stuff that you can do crime for, but usually murder is, is, is, it's,
01:05:15.240
it's sort of the ultimate for the ultimate criminals, right?
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Um, but they say between six and 8% of all murders.
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So we'll throw it around 800 to 850 of the murders, um, are with legal firearms that
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are, you know, so maybe if you expanded those laws, you could get a few more.
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Uh, the other side of this is when it comes to murders by rifle.
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Now, again, they're talking about banning the air 15 assault rifles, Pat.
01:05:43.140
Unfortunately, in the CDC numbers, they do break it down to the category of rifles that
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includes things like bolt action rifles, deer hunting rifles, all sorts of rifles that
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would not be banned by an assault, assault weapons, uh, legislation.
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However, that number 2011 of the 8,583 murders, 323 were committed with rifles, 323.
01:06:07.620
Now, overwhelmingly the most murders, if you actually wanted to stop murders, what you would
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do is go after handguns because handguns are the ones that are usually committing the
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Um, however, they're going after AR 15s because this is in our general consciousness right now,
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I mean, I think there's something like 400 people had been shot since, um, uh, Sandy
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Hook, including Sandy Hook, um, which, you know, again, by AR 15s, are those all?
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Uh, I think it was 400 people had been shot in school shootings.
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Now that would not include, for example, Vegas, right?
01:06:45.580
There's been other mass shootings that did not happen in schools, but 400 people have been
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shot at school since, uh, 2000, that was 2012, right?
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So you're talking about five years roughly, which would give you about 80 per year, a very
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terrible number, which is exactly 400 too high, right?
01:07:08.780
However, it's about one per week, a little over one per week.
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And there are 100,000 schools in the United States.
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So can, I'm not saying, you know, I'm a, I'm a parent of two kids in school.
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And I spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about these things.
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Uh, you know, you protect, you're protecting your kid is the most important thing you can
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Um, but can you legislate out one death per week in a hundred thousand schools?
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I don't know that you can, can you, can you, can you shave a little bit off the edges
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Probably, but the proposals they're going after are specifically shown to not work, not
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only here in America, but also much further reaching proposals that were, uh, enacted in
01:08:05.920
I think there is a part of this that is really uncomfortable.
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We talked about the, um, the Australia situation.
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They, they did between about 30% of the guns nationwide.
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It was basically confiscate, confiscate and compensate.
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They gave you some money, but they took all the guns from you.
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They took the equivalent here in the United States.
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Now a hundred, think about the, the, the logistics of a program that confiscates a hundred million
01:08:43.260
Third of all, it'd be insanely expensive to purchase a hundred million guns.
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You'd still have 200 million guns in the United States.
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And none of the proposals coming out of Washington are even advocating, uh, confiscating these
01:09:04.480
They're just saying they won't let you buy new ones and not, you could still buy lots
01:09:11.580
Instead of there being, let's say 300 and 310 million guns.
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Now you'd have, uh, with no legislation, 320 million guns.
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You think there's really going to be some drop in crime because of that?
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You're just wishing you see a horse with a horn walk down the street.
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What if we, what if we took all of our guns and we fired them all at once and exploded them
01:09:53.100
What if we just, we take all of, we take the world in a love embrace.
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Take, fire all of our guns at once and explode them in space.
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Do you have anything further on what would happen?
01:10:06.300
Then we'd be like a, like a true nature's child where, where we were born, let's say
01:10:17.500
Well, and wouldn't have to with all the guns taken at once and exploded into space.
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Or like is suggested by, by another group of wonderful people who have come up with incredible
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What if all of the bomber jet planes above our nation turn into butterflies?
01:10:37.040
They just turn into butterflies above our nation.
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Is there a specific legislation that would make this occur?
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It would be great to have all of the violent power in the hands of the government because
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They are, you know, now sure, you could look back at history in those dusty old books and
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dig up an example or two of 20 million people dead here, 7 million people dead here, 60
01:11:20.640
million people dead over there, 1.2 million dead over there.
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If you really, if you want to be a nerd and you just want to read big, thick black books
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of communism that tell you the stories of, you know, millions of people dying when they're
01:11:41.640
an unarmed resistance against the government that has all the weapons.
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I mean, you can find the example if you, if, if all you have to do all day is search for
01:11:53.860
Maybe you could dig up a couple of times where government went wrong and rolled over its population
01:12:00.920
because it, it came up with a reason, um, whether it was their own power or some ideology or
01:12:12.300
You can dig them up, but I think if we're all going to be rational and we're going to come
01:12:18.760
up with common sense measures, the exploding the guns into space is the way to go.
01:12:28.420
I mean, you know, those bomber death planes riding shotgun in the sky.
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If they're turned into butterflies above our nation, we'd just be a world of peace then.
01:12:42.160
And then Russia and China would swoop in and crush us.
01:12:46.560
I will say not to mention, I'm not sure which we would have a massive problem with giant
01:13:01.180
You just get killed by massive butterflies instead.
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Butterflies are just insects with pretty wings.
01:13:08.500
Well, it's better to be killed by a butterfly though than a jet plane, right?
01:13:17.580
And this is like the equivalent of like, what was that William Shatner attack on the killer
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spiders where they all just kind of creepy crawly you all over the place?
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Imagine what would happen if we took the thousands of planes in the sky and converted them into
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50 years of this policy existing and no one's called out.
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The problem with, I don't know, creating thousands of giant butterflies that are the sizes of 747s.
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When I think about it that way, it's not that great an idea.
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There's another interesting report of another Playboy playmate who claims to have had an
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friends who turned it over to Ronan Farrow, the guy who broke the Harvey Weinstein scandal.
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And so, now that's blowing up to yet another one of these scandals.
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They called it an old story, just more fake news.
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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Hopefully, he'll be better by Monday, I would expect.
01:17:18.120
So, even if he's not, he needs to get in here, because he's been faking it all week.
01:17:21.800
We all know that this started on Valentine's Day.
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And he's probably sending somebody out to scramble and find something at the last minute.
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And he didn't have anything ready for Valentine's Day.
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And then you can't just, you have to, if you're faking that you're sick enough to miss
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Valentine's Day, you can't just happen to be a one-day illness.
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You know, I think I need those two days to rest up to get my, you know, to get recharged
01:18:07.660
And I mean, obviously, we all understand what he's doing.
01:18:14.260
As is CNN's effort to use some of the, some of the kids from Parkland High to push forward
01:18:25.240
The interview that Allison Camerota did with two of the students, just, to me, this is
01:18:36.360
I mean, is this not just trying to push them into saying what you want them to say?
01:18:44.140
You also endured all of this and you were inside.
01:18:47.040
And so when people like, you know, this conservative firebrand, Tommy Lauren, tell you how you should
01:19:07.080
It says here, can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push
01:19:19.460
Now, at no point did Tommy say anything like what she was accused of there.
01:19:24.360
She's talking about politicians and people who are trying to push for policy.
01:19:30.000
And she's not telling them how to feel in any way.
01:19:33.620
I just got angry like she she's trying to use like left and right.
01:19:38.560
I don't think it's about any sides of the of political parties or anything.
01:19:45.780
Like it doesn't matter what what side of the gun control argument you're on.
01:19:55.360
So because I mean, I understand it isn't about left and right when it comes to people dying.
01:20:00.160
And I assume we're all on the same pack part there.
01:20:11.020
Like you can't say it doesn't matter where you stand on gun control.
01:20:23.660
I think any time I think it's right now, I think it's two days ago, we have to talk
01:20:29.040
about it because there's no, it's, it's already too late to change.
01:20:33.720
That's great to get these 16 year old kids involved in this discussion in the middle of
01:20:38.020
a tragedy, something they in the middle of a tragedy where their emotions are all high
01:20:41.880
and they, and it's an issue they don't know anything about.
01:20:44.640
No, I mean, look, that's not, that's not a knock on these particular kids.
01:20:47.380
It's like, I know, I didn't know anything about it either when I was 18 years old.
01:20:50.880
That's not something, it takes time to understand the world.
01:20:58.300
They don't understand the world enough to vote at 16 years old.
01:21:03.060
And so is there a value to talking to someone who survived a terrible thing like that?
01:21:07.680
To try to convince them to accept your particular policy prescription in that moment is a terrible
01:21:13.980
And again, this is why we don't, the whole thing is, what did they ask her about?
01:21:21.560
Well, that is not a good decision-making time, right?
01:21:24.360
When you're feeling angry, you're feeling emotional.
01:21:27.220
This is not the time that you make your best decisions.
01:21:29.880
And the idea that you're going to bring them on as, let's be honest, the way they're using,
01:21:34.080
and this is not just CNN, a lot of networks are doing this, but they're using these children
01:21:40.300
Hey, hey, convince everybody that because we're trying to draw on everyone's emotions.
01:21:46.000
Try to convince everybody to sign up for my gun control legislation, the thing I'm wanting
01:21:52.180
And the last thing in there is, when is it the right time to talk about this?
01:22:00.360
Because they are offended when you say what Tommy said, which was just, hey, let's have
01:22:07.240
a couple minutes of grieving before we start jumping into raising money for your activist
01:22:15.680
But now the left is pushing back on that, saying, well, we should have been talking about
01:22:25.460
Last year or 10 years ago was the exact same thing the other night.
01:22:28.560
But first of all, it is not the right time to jump into policy because of what we just
01:22:38.200
It's an emotional time and you don't make your best decisions when you're emotional.
01:22:42.020
We talked about this with right after 9-11, the Patriot Act, right?
01:22:45.320
Did we, whether you like the Patriot Act or not, did we have a real debate about every
01:22:51.500
We passed it in like a, it seemed like five minutes.
01:23:02.480
And fear and anger don't combine to good policy.
01:23:05.100
And we know that in our homes, when you, you don't make decisions, every time you get
01:23:10.520
in a fight with your wife, you don't say, oh, well, we're getting divorced.
01:23:13.180
You don't make policy decisions at that moment.
01:23:29.940
And it's just, it's just frustrating that they, they drag in real, you know, victims and people
01:23:35.080
who went through this to try to accentuate this point.
01:23:37.560
Because what they're doing, the reason why they want to talk about it now, the reason
01:23:41.140
why they feel like today is the most important day.
01:23:48.520
They know if they wait, people will start thinking with their brains instead of their
01:23:53.240
And they need you to think with your hearts and your emotions to get these things done.
01:23:56.640
Because when you use your brain, you don't want to use their policies.
01:24:00.800
Their policies don't make sense when it's brain time.
01:24:03.440
When it's heart time and it's emotion time and it's feels time, then it feels like maybe
01:24:13.320
Even if it's not the right thing, we've got to do something.
01:24:17.600
Just to prove to people that we care about these things.
01:24:25.120
And you'll notice it's never accompanied with specific policy prescriptions.
01:24:30.940
And if you want any more specific than that, it's gun control.
01:24:40.920
Everybody knows that's not allowed, frankly, by the U.S.
01:24:46.040
Constitution, which says that it shall not, our right to keep and bear arms shall not
01:24:52.840
Well, there's a lot of wiggle room in that phrase, though.
01:25:03.700
We already have in this country created a lot of wiggle room that isn't there.
01:25:08.420
You know, and now they want to create more of it.
01:25:14.680
Well, we've done certain things like, all right, can you own a bazooka?
01:25:34.060
Can you own a scary-looking weapon of war and literally a weapon of mass destruction?
01:25:49.820
Have you heard anyone give the policy prescription for the 5 million AR-15s that are already in private hands?
01:26:00.200
Are you going to send out self-addressed stamped envelopes for people to send them to you?
01:26:04.420
Hey, mail back your AR-15 in this self-addressed stamped envelope.
01:26:09.540
I hope it's one of those nice padded envelopes.
01:26:17.020
I would not love to see it because that would be a complete disaster.
01:26:21.000
But again, they're not even asking for that, right?
01:26:23.080
They're just saying no one can buy new ones, which is something we've already tried and didn't work.
01:26:31.380
So it's just, it's unfortunate because there was a story in, I think, The Guardian.
01:26:38.360
Five things you could do right now to reduce gun violence in America.
01:26:45.220
Demand your city use data-driven strategies to reduce violence.
01:26:48.280
More than 25% of gun homicides happen in neighborhoods that contain just 1.5% of the country's total population.
01:26:54.000
The Live Free campaign and the Community Justice Reform Coalition are working to organize communities most intensely impacted by violence.
01:27:01.120
These activists believe that making neighborhoods safer requires addressing gun violence, police shootings, and criminal justice reform at the same time, not as competing issues.
01:27:09.340
So, again, that doesn't necessarily mean gun control.
01:27:12.320
But, you know, maybe there's some elements of that.
01:27:17.280
Strengthen your state's approach to guns and domestic violence.
01:27:19.640
Again, this is something that I think a lot of people agree with, even if you have Second Amendment beliefs.
01:27:28.900
If you've, if you've, if you're convicted of domestic violence, you can't have a gun.
01:27:35.760
Support the effort to pass extreme risk protection orders.
01:27:39.500
Advocates have launched a joint effort this year over 20 states to pass extreme risk protection order laws, which give family members and law enforcement officials a way to petition a court to temporarily bar at-risk people from possessing firearms.
01:27:58.820
That means you can't have any guns in your house, right?
01:28:00.900
I mean, it doesn't just take it away from the person, it would also take away the parents or the siblings or whoever has a legally purchased gun.
01:28:09.900
And these are not things I think some of the stuff you couldn't get passed because they would restrict people's rights to bear arms.
01:28:17.540
And, you know, that's the thing we never really talk about is that bottom line is most of the stuff that the left is proposing winds up getting overturned in the Supreme Court anyway.
01:28:26.320
So, I mean, we fear these things because they're going to try to take these guns away and they're going to try to do all these things.
01:28:34.000
Overwhelming possibility that it gets overturned by the Supreme Court anyway.
01:28:38.220
As long as the Supreme Court is in its current configuration, that could change if a liberal ever packs the court.
01:28:47.720
Sandy Hook Promise, an advocacy group founded by family members of the Sandy Hook shooting, has trained more than 2 million students and adults to know their science.
01:28:55.040
So, like, that sort of stuff is, of course you can do that, right?
01:28:59.000
And have gun owners lead the way in preventing gun suicides.
01:29:01.920
And, again, this is a smart point in that, as we point out, 65% of gun deaths come from suicide, not murder.
01:29:12.320
I think, to me, we talked about the whole media situation.
01:29:14.820
I noticed another person, I think it was on CNN yesterday, not giving the name of the shooter.
01:29:20.740
There was a shooter in, and I don't have it in front of me.
01:29:26.640
I wish I had the story, but I'll give you the baseline here.
01:29:30.840
Grandma goes into a kid's room, opens up his journal, because she's feeling kind of weird about what's going on.
01:29:39.580
Opens up his journal, starts reading line-by-line plan on how he's going to go murder, do a school shooting in a specific school,
01:29:48.600
which he flipped a coin to figure out which school it was going to be.
01:29:53.420
Detailed plans and his description about how he wanted to set a record and outdo all the other school shootings.
01:30:00.840
And wanted to make sure he did better than that.
01:30:04.500
Again, this is media obsession with this stuff.
01:30:06.880
He comes to it, and he says, I want to beat those guys.
01:30:10.000
Luckily, the grandma actually looked at the journal and then looked in his guitar case,
01:30:14.520
which included the weapon that he was going to use in the particular school shooting.
01:30:24.860
What a moment it must be if your grandson is doing this.
01:30:32.160
Luckily, she called, like she should have, authorities.
01:30:36.240
And not only did she prevent dozens of deaths, possibly, at this school.
01:30:42.920
Also, she prevented, most likely, her grandson's death, who would have either been shot or he would have shot himself.
01:30:55.900
Their defense was raising the point I think you're raising, which is he didn't actually shoot anybody yet.
01:31:05.320
Now, of course, he had grenades and he had a gun.
01:31:09.300
So he had, he was pretty well armed to do this, although, you know, there wasn't necessarily a law that prevented him from having the gun, right?
01:31:26.700
I'm sure in the investigation they will come to that conclusion.
01:31:30.300
But the point being that, you know, there are, if you can uncover these things beforehand, and we have caught a lot of them.
01:31:37.560
I mean, being, being more aware is a big part of that.
01:31:39.680
And I think not encouraging these people to be these famous celebrities in their communities, I think that helps, too.
01:31:47.100
And we can, we can, that's one that, again, the media can do without passing any legislation.
01:31:52.900
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It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
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Mitt Romney finally made the long-awaited announcement that he's running for Senate.
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So when Orrin Hatch is stepping down the end of this term,
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and so in November, you'll be able to, I mean, everybody's going to vote for Mitt Romney,
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and he'll be a U.S. senator from Utah very quickly here.
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I mean, they think they might, someone might try to primary them, but I don't think it's going to work.
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I think Mitt will probably win 75, 80% of the vote there.
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So his announcement did come out, and it was beautiful.
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Because, I don't know if you know this, in Utah, they have both mountains and snow.
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I have decided to run for United States Senate because I believe I can help bring Utah's values
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Utah is a better model for Washington than Washington is for Utah.
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Over the last five years, Ann and I have spent a good deal of time with our 24 grandchildren.
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I've gone back to business, campaigned for Republicans, and met with young people across
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Ann has championed her Center for Neurologic Research.
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Given all that America faces, we feel that this is the right time for me to serve our state
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And I look forward to meeting you over the coming year.
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If you give me this opportunity, I will owe the Senate seat to no one but the people of Utah.
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No donor, no corporation will own my campaign or bias my vote.
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And let there be no question, I will fight for Utah.
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But then there was just a little teeny bit more when he...
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Utah welcomes legal immigrants from around the world.
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Washington sends immigrants a message of exclusion.
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The battle right now is over illegal immigrants.
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And, you know, when you muddy those waters, it just...
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It's just so disingenuous to say Utah welcomes legal immigrants when Utah also welcomes illegal immigrants.
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Seriously, there's few people who don't want any immigration.
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Certainly, like, the alt-right types don't want that.
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And so, obviously, that group has grown over the years.
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But, I mean, there's obviously legal immigration built into every policy of security that Trump
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But, again, Romney, a big improvement over Orrin Hatch.
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I'm not a huge Romney guy, but it's an improvement.
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Jeffy, if you don't remember this, we had the Mercury One Gala.
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And then he cheated at the actual Armadillo race.
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If you don't remember, we were raising money for the great causes that Mercury One does,
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including freeing people all around the world and saving them.
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For some reason, this got worked into the conversation, which made no sense.
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But we had to raise money for our Armadillo to win the Armadillo race.
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And Jeffy cheated to raise the most money, first of all.
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He was working with the people who ran the thing.
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And I believe, like every other donation or something, no matter who it was given to,
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If you sleep better at night believing that, you'd go right ahead and do that.
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And shockingly, Jeffy found a loophole in the rules to abuse them.
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The problem with the Armadillos was they were stupid.
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And they didn't know where they were supposed to go.
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So they'd start heading one way and then they decided,
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And so Jeffy picked up the track behind him and pushed him along,
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I've been aware that that rule has now been changed in Armadillo
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I found that out as soon as I also got my plaque for being inducted
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Jeffy's basically the Bill Belichick of Armadillo racing.
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He's always finding the little loophole in the rule to exploit it,
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I mean, all you have to do is say, hey, congratulations,
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Not to you, though, but to Cynthia and David Bray,
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And you guys are the raffle winners of the beautiful truck
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Well, I'll have to get used to the power windows
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but you don't have to show up to win the raffle.
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You guys were not actually at the Mercury One gala.
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You, what, heard us talking about it on the air?
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Because I buy one ticket all the time and I never win.
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actually, I'm a big, you know, Piers Morgan fan.
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I'm going to sell it and donate it all to some left-wing charity.
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And he's going to walk you guys out around the corner.
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I will say Jeffy moves really slow, but follow him.
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I'm going to walk you out so you can see the truck.
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You can keep your headphones on as you walk out there so we can talk to you.
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Cynthia and David Bray, all the way from Washington,
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Now, as we're walking out here, before we get to the truck,
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You can take the envelope with the cash, and I keep the truck.
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I know the envelope looks thin, but they're big bills.
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It would have to be the Woodrow Wilson $100,000 bill to make that worthwhile,
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Very cool that they donated this through Mercury One.
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My impression is that Jeffy probably stole something out of this truck,
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they also helped all sorts of people around the world
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who were involved in all sorts of terrible things.
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You know, there's been multiple millions of dollars saved,
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donated to help save Christians in the Middle East.
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We're not going to all die of fumes if you keep the thing running.
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Unless you want to utilize it to run Jeffy over.
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And thank you to everyone who donated to Mercury One.
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to announce kind of a cool new initiative that they're doing,
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Glenn is not known for understating the things he wants to accomplish.
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It's a really cool announcement he's going to be coming out with next week
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to help an incredibly devastating problem around the world.
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And that's going to be all next week on the TV show.
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And then we'll be talking about it here on radio as well.
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And I don't know if you get a free car out of it,
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All right, you were talking about the grandmother
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who discovered and thwarted the Washington school shooting
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by just finding her grandson's journal and calling the police.
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And we were wondering, okay, well, the guy didn't,
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I'm glad you stopped him, but what do you charge him with?
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You said you wanted to meet up with her and do that thang.
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which she discovered after reading the journal.