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00:00:17.620 Hello America.

00:00:18.500 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:00:21.540 There's a lot to discuss today.

00:00:24.200 If you were traveling by air over the weekend,

00:00:27.240 you had a delightful, I don't know why protesters have to make

00:00:31.380 everybody else's life miserable.

00:00:34.220 I mean, that's not going to get me on your side.

00:00:36.840 If you've made my travel weekend even more of a hassle than the airlines can,

00:00:45.000 I don't necessarily come to your side.

00:00:48.260 I want to talk about the ban, what's being called a Muslim ban.

00:00:53.940 It's not a Muslim ban.

00:00:55.220 And I want to talk about that, but we have to start with the facts.

00:01:00.160 What is it exactly?

00:01:02.720 What does it exactly say?

00:01:05.480 Then we can comment on it.

00:01:07.380 We go there right now.

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00:01:35.080 Hello America.

00:01:39.160 Welcome to the program.

00:01:40.340 I am so glad that you have joined us today.

00:01:43.000 A lot to say about this executive order and what the media is doing.

00:01:47.960 But I want to start with the facts and we're going to go through the executive order

00:01:52.000 and what it says.

00:01:53.600 Because after watching, you know, the media absolutely freak out.

00:01:59.820 And again, the spontaneous, amazingly well-organized, spontaneous protests that happened this weekend

00:02:09.340 at airports.

00:02:10.420 That's incredible.

00:02:11.980 I've never seen anything quite like it.

00:02:14.640 But then again, the left knows how to protest.

00:02:18.680 You know, that's what they do and do best.

00:02:21.160 But do they have the facts right?

00:02:23.360 So let's look at the facts of what happened.

00:02:26.600 This is an executive order.

00:02:28.780 Right off the bat, I am not a fan of executive orders.

00:02:32.380 I do not want an autocrat, to put it nicely.

00:02:39.320 This was one of my biggest concerns with Barack Obama.

00:02:43.300 And even if Donald Trump does not become an autocrat or an authoritarian, what about the next guy?

00:02:53.460 Will he?

00:02:54.700 We need the balance of power back.

00:02:58.140 We cannot have an executive rule by phone and pen.

00:03:03.960 It's good to see that the left is awake to this.

00:03:08.260 And they don't like the executive power.

00:03:11.420 Good, we didn't either.

00:03:13.300 So the first problem I have with it is that it is an executive order.

00:03:19.460 The second problem I have with it was it was done, it was rushed and done without any forethought

00:03:27.200 on what this is going to mean today at all the airports.

00:03:33.360 Because nobody knew how to deal with it.

00:03:35.640 Nobody had gone to all the people, you know, the TSA and everybody else at the airport.

00:03:40.940 They just get this edict and they don't know how to deal with it.

00:03:44.820 And all these people are in transit.

00:03:46.620 So it's not, you know, in three days, in five days, in seven days.

00:03:51.280 It's right now.

00:03:52.940 This is what's happening.

00:03:54.080 Yeah, they had quotes from some of the people who were doing this, you know, going through the agencies that were basically being told about the executive order in the meetings and then looked up at the screen and saw Donald Trump signing it.

00:04:09.500 Like they were being informed that this was going to happen while he was on television signing it.

00:04:15.620 And it's like, well, you want to prepare.

00:04:17.240 This is one of those things that you would typically prepare people for maybe weeks, at least, if not longer, because it's a major change and that you're looking for different people.

00:04:25.900 You've changed the screening process, which the executive branch has pretty broad authority when it comes to immigration on these things.

00:04:32.460 But, you know, you want to make sure that it runs as smoothly as possible.

00:04:35.860 You don't want to give your enemies something to chew on.

00:04:38.980 You don't want to give your enemies video of little kids stranded at the airport in limbo.

00:04:44.240 Right.

00:04:44.520 If there's a lot to go through on the actual meat of this.

00:04:48.160 But from a complaint perspective, if you're someone who voted for Donald Trump and thinks these priorities are important, if you're a conservative who's concerned about terrorism, what you don't like about this, number one, is it's just a gift to the media the way they did it.

00:05:02.560 They were able to give a complete gift with not only a gift as far as just the way you talk about it, but then visuals.

00:05:10.480 You're saying like, hey, here's the location of every one of the 100 and some odd people that are going to be detained because every single time they're going to be around a central area at a major airport.

00:05:21.400 And it was just a gift visually to the media, which you don't want to do.

00:05:27.080 So there's a level of incompetence in the way it was handled that I think conservatives, Trump supporters, can absolutely complain about.

00:05:37.880 So that is something to get out of the way right away.

00:05:40.760 Right.

00:05:41.060 But it is not a big huge but it is not what the left is calling right now.

00:05:48.600 They're saying this is a Muslim ban.

00:05:51.300 It's not a Muslim ban.

00:05:53.820 Now, there are problems with it that you can make it into a Muslim ban, but it is not a Muslim ban.

00:06:01.660 There are how many countries?

00:06:03.020 22 Muslim countries.

00:06:04.960 Only seven of them are banned. 0.98

00:06:07.300 And they're the worst of the worst.

00:06:09.940 And it is only for, is it 60 or 90 days?

00:06:14.000 90.

00:06:14.760 90, I think.

00:06:15.920 As it is looked at.

00:06:17.740 Now, me personally, I would ban everyone for 60 days.

00:06:24.120 There's no, nobody coming from these war-torn countries as refugees for another 60 days.

00:06:31.360 Until we can implement some sort of vetting process that we believe.

00:06:37.240 But what they've said is, for 60 or 90 days, you're not going to be able to take anyone but religious minorities and, in some case-by-case basis, those who helped us fight the war.

00:06:54.260 And it sort of does that with refugees, as we go through the details.

00:06:58.640 It does some of that more broadly, and then specifically from people from those countries.

00:07:04.580 So refugees are, for 120 days, I think, is the ban on that.

00:07:09.000 We can go through this if you want.

00:07:09.940 Yeah, go through it.

00:07:10.480 Let's start.

00:07:10.820 And quickly, the source on this is important, I think, because it's National Review and David French.

00:07:16.680 David French is a guy who almost ran for president against Donald Trump as a third party.

00:07:22.400 And National Review was the big anti-Trump.

00:07:25.720 So for the National Review, that gave a lot of credibility to this for me.

00:07:30.740 When National Review came out and said, it's not what everybody is saying it is, that gave a lot of credibility.

00:07:38.180 Because National Review, if they're going to play like the rest of the media, would come out and say, it's bad, it's horrible.

00:07:45.220 Because they were against Donald Trump.

00:07:46.940 But that's not what they did.

00:07:48.060 That's not what they did.

00:07:48.600 And on your point, a lot of people are saying, well, this isn't effective because it doesn't ban Saudi Arabia, for example, who was involved in the actual, you know, people, their residents were involved in 9-11, right?

00:07:59.420 So why did you target that?

00:08:00.800 It's just as ineffective as a Muslim ban. 1.00

00:08:03.820 If you think it's a Muslim ban, they missed the top 10 Muslim populations in the world.

00:08:09.480 The top 10 Muslim populations in the world are all not on the ban.

00:08:15.840 Again, so if you're trying to ban Muslims, you want to include Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Egypt, Iran is on there, Turkey, Algeria, and Morocco. 0.54

00:08:27.080 So, I mean, there's one, Iran.

00:08:30.320 So it's just like, it's obviously not a Muslim ban, you know, despite the fact that, you know, Michael Flynn's son was tweeting about it being a Muslim ban.

00:08:40.060 It is not a Muslim ban.

00:08:41.720 And Rudy Giuliani.

00:08:42.900 Well, I mean, again, the Giuliani thing is problematic in that, and this is another part you want to go to incompetence, the Giuliani story, in case you don't know it, is Trump went to Giuliani, according to Giuliani, and said, I want to do a Muslim ban.

00:08:58.220 How do I do it legally?

00:09:00.000 Now, he said, Giuliani said this and recounted this conversation on national television.

00:09:05.080 So, then they went into, well, you don't focus on religion, you focus on danger, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:09:11.420 Look, we were, and I maintain a belief that it is absolutely unconstitutional and wrong to ban a religion from the United States of America when it comes to immigrants.

00:09:23.080 I think that's, his, Trump's initial proposal was completely wrong, and I think horrible.

00:09:29.260 And all the complaints that you see today from the media would be justified if he implemented that policy.

00:09:34.280 He did not implement anything close to that policy.

00:09:37.100 It's not even remotely close to that policy.

00:09:40.400 They're just all reacting as if it's the same thing.

00:09:42.980 It is not the same thing.

00:09:45.540 May I point out a bit of hypocrisy here on the left?

00:09:52.860 Sure.

00:09:53.380 What they're doing is, we listened to Barack Obama, and we took him literally when he said, look, I'm for a single-payer health care system, and eventually this will collapse the free market system, and we'll go into a single-payer health care system.

00:10:13.160 His people said that, right?

00:10:14.200 His people said that, and he said he was for a single-payer.

00:10:17.500 For a single-payer, multiple times.

00:10:18.560 Right, and Gruber said, look, this is a Trojan horse.

00:10:21.100 It's going to collapse the system, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:23.060 And I took them at their word.

00:10:25.520 I took them literally.

00:10:27.660 The left took him seriously.

00:10:31.420 And so when we said, that's crazy.

00:10:34.800 This is not, this is, he's not doing what he's saying he's doing.

00:10:41.660 He's using a Trojan horse to get a single-payer health care system.

00:10:45.160 We were called conspiracy theorists.

00:10:48.120 Because we took him literally.

00:10:51.100 And not, and not seriously.

00:10:54.180 The left never took him literally.

00:10:57.360 So when he said, you know, I want a single-payer health care system, and this is the way to get there.

00:11:04.720 It didn't matter.

00:11:05.760 What they heard was, no, you're going to get $2,800 back.

00:11:09.280 You're going to get, you're going to get money back, and you're going to be able to keep your doctor.

00:11:13.840 We were conspiracy theorists.

00:11:15.620 What's happening here is, they heard Donald Trump, and like me, they took him literally. 0.97

00:11:23.540 He wants, he has got a problem with Muslims, he's going to ban all Muslims.

00:11:27.680 They also look, in this particular case, to Steve Bannon, who is the architect of this executive order.

00:11:34.220 And they know that he is alt-right, a big alt-right supporter.

00:11:40.580 So, of course, they think this is going to be a, this is 60 days away from being a full Muslim ban.

00:11:49.040 Because that's what Trump has said in the past he wanted, and we know that's what Bannon wanted.

00:11:54.360 So, this is a Trojan horse.

00:11:57.580 The right now is taking Donald Trump seriously, but not literally.

00:12:02.520 The press and the left are taking him literally.

00:12:06.280 Because they own the press, it takes a hold of the country.

00:12:12.480 Where because we didn't own the press, it didn't take a hold of the country.

00:12:17.360 Does that make sense?

00:12:18.240 So, that's the biggest problem, is that they are taking this, they are taking him in the past, literally, and this, not literally.

00:12:31.200 Right, because, I mean, with Barack Obama, it was constant stories about what he meant was.

00:12:36.360 Yes.

00:12:36.620 You always got these justifications about what he actually meant to say, and what he actually meant.

00:12:41.860 And here's the justification, here's the backup.

00:12:43.960 You got that constantly.

00:12:44.720 With Trump, you're getting the exact opposite.

00:12:46.300 Right.

00:12:46.540 You're getting the most, you know, heavy-handed, not looking for nuance sort of views here.

00:12:53.860 And, you know, I, there, it's hard to find nuance.

00:12:56.920 I mean, you know, Donald Trump does not necessarily lend himself to nuance.

00:12:59.480 I get it.

00:12:59.820 But it's why we said.

00:13:00.680 But you need to look at the actual words and what these things actually do.

00:13:03.480 It's why we said during the Obama administration, you have to be able to take the president literally.

00:13:10.140 You have to believe his words.

00:13:12.200 Because how else do you judge a man?

00:13:17.780 And so if you, if you don't know when he means it, when he doesn't, how do you judge a man?

00:13:23.300 Well, you then have to go to the piece of paper and see what the piece of paper says.

00:13:29.180 Let's give a little bit of this for about 90 seconds.

00:13:31.800 Okay.

00:13:32.180 So the first thing it does, it caps 120 days with no refugee admissions to, and they're going to improve the vetting process.

00:13:41.400 You know the extreme vetting words there.

00:13:43.060 And then caps refugee admissions at 50,000 per year, 50,000 per year.

00:13:48.540 Now, Obama had a huge year of refugee admissions in 2016.

00:13:52.540 But that number of 50,000 is not out of the norm for the United States at all, especially in the 2000s.

00:14:00.060 You look at the chart, it's been right around 50,000 or slightly above since about the year 2000.

00:14:06.440 And also was in that in the late 80s was around the same number.

00:14:09.240 It's had periods where it's jumped up.

00:14:10.620 In 2002, after 9-11 was the low point, 27,131 refugees.

00:14:15.120 We were obviously very heightened security after 9-11.

00:14:18.280 We admitted fewer than 50,000 in 2003, 2006, and 2007.

00:14:23.560 Now, those are all Bush years, so you might say, well, Obama did a lot more.

00:14:26.560 Obama was slightly more generous in this particular measure than President Bush.

00:14:31.320 But his refugee cap from 2013 to 2015 was just 70,000.

00:14:35.740 So, again, it's not that much different than what the Trump thing does.

00:14:38.860 In 2011 and 2012, he admitted barely more than 50,000 refugees himself.

00:14:44.560 So, important to note that this cap is not out of the norm at all.

00:14:49.760 The bottom line is that Trump is improving security, if you believe this,

00:14:53.040 and intends to admit refugees at close to an average rate of the 15 years before Obama's dramatic expansion in 2016.

00:15:00.140 Important point here.

00:15:01.840 Obama's expansion was a departure from the norm, not Trump's contraction.

00:15:07.560 Obama's expansion was the thing that stands out on this chart.

00:15:11.660 It's the thing that makes you say, whoa, what happened there?

00:15:14.780 You notice it immediately, and that is the thing that is out of step with the way we've done things since the new millennium.

00:15:21.740 Okay, so that's important to understand.

00:15:24.660 That cap is not unreasonable.

00:15:26.720 It's not zero.

00:15:28.240 It's not the sort of thing that Trump talked about in the campaign.

00:15:31.060 It is a generally average number that we've had over the past couple presidents.

00:15:35.800 And it's important to point out here,

00:15:38.200 I believe you could ask any American,

00:15:42.580 any American, left, right, in the middle,

00:15:45.180 doesn't matter,

00:15:46.340 are we vetting people well enough when they come in?

00:15:53.300 Do we know who they are?

00:15:55.440 I think almost everyone will say no.

00:15:58.840 And one of the reasons why is because of what we went through with the border.

00:16:02.620 We have no idea who's pouring across our border.

00:16:06.240 It is not unreasonable to say,

00:16:09.860 let's pause for a minute.

00:16:12.260 Let's look at everything.

00:16:13.500 Let's get our sea legs,

00:16:14.680 reduce them back to the way they were before this anomaly under this last president,

00:16:19.380 and let's find out how we can find out who is here and coming in.

00:16:26.060 There's nothing wrong with that.

00:16:27.420 That is totally reasonable.

00:16:29.940 I believe it is the press that is blowing this out of proportion.

00:16:33.900 Now, if he would do a full Muslim ban, 0.96

00:16:36.880 I would be with them.

00:16:38.760 But that's not what this is.

00:16:42.800 And facts do matter.

00:16:45.660 Especially if you're saying that you're the ones looking for fake news.

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00:19:09.000 We have to establish a baseline of fact.

00:19:13.040 So, is this a Muslim ban?

00:19:14.700 As we're reading the executive order, first thing that comes out at you is,

00:19:18.800 no, this is not a Muslim ban.

00:19:22.240 Now, let's continue to read it.

00:19:23.700 Okay.

00:19:24.100 The second part of this executive order.

00:19:25.940 It imposes a temporary 90-day ban on people entering the U.S. from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen.

00:19:35.260 Where do those countries come from?

00:19:39.000 Well, you could look first to the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015.

00:19:47.000 You might think of who the president was in 2015.

00:19:49.860 And, of course, obviously this would be a, you know, a strange answer.

00:19:53.100 They had, it started with four countries, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, and Syria were the first four.

00:20:00.360 And then in 2016, February 18th, 2016, they added the final three, giving you Libya, Somalia, and Yemen.

00:20:08.920 So those, I mean, surely the Trump administration, the people who crafted this, did this intentionally, right?

00:20:15.220 They picked these dangerous countries that the Obama administration had already put on for restrictions on visas,

00:20:21.520 had already named them as dangerous countries.

00:20:24.060 Now, this issue, people are talking about it as a Muslim ban, and it will effectively work as a Muslim ban from those seven countries.

00:20:31.220 Right.

00:20:31.460 But you would still come in from Saudi Arabia and fly our planes and buildings.

00:20:34.220 Saudi Arabia or Indonesia or any of the other eight or nine of the top ten countries in Muslim population in the world.

00:20:40.700 So it is an important thing.

00:20:41.780 Lots of Muslims can come here.

00:20:43.160 We can continue to accept them as normal.

00:20:46.100 And we want the good people that want to be here.

00:20:49.800 We just have to figure out, how do you know which is which?

00:20:54.640 More on the actual facts of this non-Muslim ban, this executive order, when we come back.

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00:21:16.360 A lot to say about the executive order.

00:21:19.060 A lot to say to the media and the protesters.

00:21:23.040 And perhaps, well, I don't even know what you think anymore.

00:21:27.500 So I was going to say, perhaps not what you think.

00:21:29.280 But I don't know what people think I'm going to say anymore.

00:21:32.640 The truth is you understand it.

00:21:34.000 That we're going to continue to do whether you like it or not.

00:21:35.960 The truth is I understand it.

00:21:37.500 And there is both good and bad in this.

00:21:42.080 If you want to look at it through the lens of reason.

00:21:46.480 If you want to take it for what it says, it's reasonable to do.

00:21:51.980 Now, if you want to play it out and say this is the first step in a Muslim ban, which you wouldn't have allowed me to do with Barack Obama.

00:22:00.780 That was a conspiracy theory.

00:22:03.680 So let's hold him to the same standard that you held Barack Obama to.

00:22:09.880 He said this is what he wants to do.

00:22:13.660 When he does more, then we can talk about that.

00:22:17.140 But so far, this is what the executive order says.

00:22:19.660 It does say it can be extended or expanded.

00:22:22.960 And I think if you look at that, it's fair to look at this judging, first of all, that it will be extended.

00:22:29.620 Right.

00:22:30.660 I think that that's a fair thing to look at.

00:22:32.560 Right now, it's a short ban.

00:22:34.460 But I don't think that's the right way to judge it.

00:22:36.060 I mean, if he can continue to expand it and continue to do it, you should probably judge it on what its long term implications are.

00:22:42.000 And can it be expanded?

00:22:43.340 Well, you know, if there's an attack or something, I mean, I would not be surprised at all if it's expanded.

00:22:46.560 However, what it does now is what it does now.

00:22:48.920 I will tell you this.

00:22:50.200 With the marches, before anyone has any facts, these marches are the Nobel Prize going to Barack Obama times 10.

00:23:00.500 People are already marching before the average American has even heard that there has been a new executive order.

00:23:09.620 And all of a sudden, everybody's up in arms.

00:23:11.460 If the left gets their way on this and they obstruct this, I'm telling you, the first time that an immigrant does anything or a refugee does anything wrong, this administration will go 10 times as hard.

00:23:31.020 And the American people will be right there with them.

00:23:33.660 It will be the Bubba effect.

00:23:34.740 Yeah, I mean, that is a real danger.

00:23:39.580 Yep.

00:23:40.220 But, you know, it's something to consider as you go forward.

00:23:44.340 So so a lot of people are saying, well, wait a minute.

00:23:46.800 What about these great generals that worked with us in the war?

00:23:49.280 What about there's like NBA players with dual citizenship from here in Sudan?

00:23:54.060 Technically, if they were to go play the Toronto Raptors and then try to come back in the country, they could be banned.

00:23:59.580 Right.

00:24:00.060 However, the executive order specifically deals with that, saying secretary of state and homeland security may on a case by case basis and when in the national interest issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.

00:24:12.680 They've carved out.

00:24:13.940 Hey, if we've got a translator that helped us, you know, get Osama bin Laden and he takes a trip. 0.78

00:24:19.120 Well, guess what?

00:24:19.940 He's able to come back in because we have specific ways to do that.

00:24:23.620 We have a moral obligation to help those people.

00:24:27.260 Absolutely.

00:24:27.600 Absolutely. Now, this is another part.

00:24:29.780 I think you have a real fair complaint with the way they did this in that they didn't seem to outline this this well enough.

00:24:34.960 This the process is not streamlined.

00:24:37.380 And it's why some of these people who shouldn't have been caught up in this were caught up in it.

00:24:41.500 Correct.

00:24:41.660 Again, it was a small number of people, but it was an easy media story and a gift to the media, which, again, is, you know, supposed to be.

00:24:49.100 You know, Trump has it's one of the strong suits.

00:24:50.800 Right. As far as handling the media and this, they seem to fall down on it.

00:24:54.460 There's another part of it where they may have extended this to people who actually had green green cards, meaning permanent residents of the United States that also had, you know, issues here.

00:25:05.980 They initially did that. The reporting was that people like Steve Bannon overruled other people in the administration and were working on this to try to make it apply to green card holders.

00:25:16.860 It does seem like the administration is backing off of that now.

00:25:20.060 So it does not seem like that's a big part of it.

00:25:23.400 Next up, the indefinite hold on admission to Syrian refugees to the United States.

00:25:29.080 That is in the executive order.

00:25:32.040 I mean, look, there's a civil war going on there.

00:25:34.520 It's a very dangerous area.

00:25:35.860 A lot of people would understand this.

00:25:37.240 It is a return, according to the National Review, to the Obama administration's practices from 2011 to 2014.

00:25:45.080 For all the Democrats and wailing and gnashing of teeth, until 2016, the Obama administration had largely already slammed the door on Syrian refugee admissions.

00:25:53.280 The Syrian civil war touched off in 2011.

00:25:56.180 In 2011, we admitted 29 Syrian refugees.

00:26:00.280 29.

00:26:00.620 In 2012, 31.

00:26:03.320 In 2013, 36.

00:26:05.920 In 2014, 105.

00:26:08.360 And then in 2015, 1,682.

00:26:11.820 It wasn't until 2016 that we hit 13,000.

00:26:15.640 Okay?

00:26:16.120 So there was a large increase, but very consistent with the early years of the Syrian civil war.

00:26:22.880 When that was going on, the Obama administration let in less than a trickle of refugees.

00:26:27.060 Only in the closing days of his administration did Obama reverse course, and now we're supposed to be all upset that Trump is returning to what Obama did at the beginning.

00:26:36.580 It's not that big of a difference.

00:26:39.040 There is a fourth.

00:26:40.240 There's a puzzling amount of outrage over Trump's directive to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion to the individual's country of nationality.

00:26:53.760 So we see what this is, and you can see how, if you're not following this closely, you'd say, well, wait a minute, he's gone to seven countries, the majority religion there is Muslim, and he said only minority religions can come in.

00:27:05.820 So it looks like a Muslim ban.

00:27:07.040 Again, if you missed earlier, he missed, I think, nine of the ten top Muslim populations in the world.

00:27:12.540 So it doesn't seem like he's banning all Muslims by any means.

00:27:15.560 Well, the problem with this is I don't have, I'm not comfortable with the government scanning the Christians or Yazidis either.

00:27:22.780 Right. 0.61

00:27:23.280 They're so bad.

00:27:24.500 They're so bad at it.

00:27:25.120 This is where I think there's another stumble.

00:27:27.920 Cut it off for 60 days.

00:27:30.380 Cut it off.

00:27:31.860 Yes, they did for refugees for 120 days.

00:27:35.220 So I think you're okay with that part of it.

00:27:36.700 With, but, but, Syria is an exception of the war-torn countries.

00:27:41.860 If you're a Christian or Yazidi, those are refugees. 1.00

00:27:47.400 Those are people.

00:27:48.180 So that country is just people in general, those seven countries.

00:27:50.920 Overall, refugees from anywhere, 120 days.

00:27:54.700 So if you're not, because refugees, you have to make an argument, right? 1.00

00:27:58.340 It's not just you're just trying to immigrate here.

00:28:00.120 You're making, wait a minute, I'm being persecuted. 0.98

00:28:01.820 I'm going to be killed because I'm Christian. 0.99

00:28:04.020 I need to come here right now. 0.98

00:28:05.500 And the ones that are targeted first, I believe, are the Yazidis. 0.99

00:28:10.000 Close second are the Christians. 1.00

00:28:13.120 And a third are Muslims.

00:28:15.500 But it's hard to tell which ones are part of this plan to infiltrate and which are just good Muslims. 0.89

00:28:26.360 That's why we need the help of the Muslim community, but not people like CARE. 0.95

00:28:31.120 Remember, people like Judy Zasser's organization, where we can have Muslims sit down with Muslims and say, okay, how do we figure this out?

00:28:44.660 Who are the bad guys?

00:28:45.560 Who are the good guys?

00:28:46.880 Now, so the way with, right now, this executive order says members of minority religions may well go to the front of the line.

00:28:54.560 During the Obama administration, it seems that Christian and other minorities may well have ended up at the back of the line.

00:29:00.540 For example, when Obama dramatically expanded Syrian refugee admissions in 2016, few Christians made the cut.

00:29:07.280 The Obama administration resettled 13,210 Syrian refugees.

00:29:11.580 That's an increase of 675% over the same 10-month period in 2015.

00:29:16.020 Of those, 99.1% were Muslim, and then 77, which is 0.5% of that number, were Christian.

00:29:26.400 0.18% are Yezidis.

00:29:29.240 Now, 10% of Syria is Christian, and only 0.5% of the refugees we let in were Christian.

00:29:35.400 So that is actually, it is the reverse of what Obama did there.

00:29:38.840 He was letting in almost only religious majorities where this particular thing says, hey, this executive order says we need religious minorities.

00:29:49.280 And we want to point out that there hasn't been any refugee that has caused a problem here in the United States.

00:29:56.900 But there have been refugees that have caused problems over in Europe. 1.00

00:30:01.220 Some of the parachutings were refugees.

00:30:04.860 And there were terrorist attacks by Cuban refugees before 1980.

00:30:09.480 I think three people died in those.

00:30:11.600 So it has happened before, but not since 1980.

00:30:14.120 And those were Cuban refugees.

00:30:15.560 And it is happening in this particular case where Europe is being overwhelmed.

00:30:21.900 And we just don't want to be overwhelmed.

00:30:23.840 We're no good helping anyone unless we help ourselves first.

00:30:29.080 And I am against this because it's an executive order.

00:30:33.080 I do not like ruling by pen and by telephone, Twitter, or telephone.

00:30:41.460 I don't like it.

00:30:42.340 It's not the way we work.

00:30:45.340 However, everything that I've read from this executive order seems fairly reasonable.

00:30:53.140 I don't know why Saudi Arabia isn't on it, why the UAE isn't on it.

00:30:59.060 There are some...

00:30:59.820 It's funny because people keep complaining, well, you didn't put the 9-11 terrorists on it.

00:31:02.700 Well, they didn't put... 0.97

00:31:03.420 If it was a Muslim ban, it's a terrible Muslim ban, too. 0.99

00:31:06.600 He did a bad job at banning Muslims when you leave 9 of the 10 top Muslim populations untouched. 0.88

00:31:12.780 So it's not about that.

00:31:15.880 I understand where they're going with this.

00:31:17.860 They obviously want to make this look like something that it's not.

00:31:20.780 It's the media.

00:31:21.380 This is how they act.

00:31:22.280 But it's important to actually understand what is in there.

00:31:24.760 For example, federal asylum and refugee law require a religious test as part of the process.

00:31:31.980 So people are saying, well, you can't talk about religious minorities.

00:31:35.860 That's a very standard part of refugee and asylum law.

00:31:40.220 An alien in seeking asylum must establish that religion, among other things,

00:31:43.860 was or will be at least one central reason for persecuting the applicant.

00:31:48.020 The term refugee means any person who is outside any country of such person's nationality

00:31:54.300 who is unable or unwilling to return to that country because of persecution

00:31:59.080 or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of religion, among other things.

00:32:03.800 This is why you don't...

00:32:05.420 Refugees are different than your typical immigrant. 1.00

00:32:08.080 Refugees are people fleeing a terrible situation. 0.76

00:32:10.720 One of the main reasons people do this is because, you might know from history,

00:32:16.560 a lot of times religious minorities get persecuted.

00:32:19.620 That is one of the reasons we have these things set up so that we can rescue people

00:32:23.620 from these terrible situations if they are minority religions being persecuted by the majority.

00:32:29.280 Very rarely does the majority religion, and it does happen, 1.00

00:32:32.100 but the majority religion is the victim of the persecution.

00:32:34.880 It does happen.

00:32:35.920 But it's more typically associated with religious minorities.

00:32:39.400 We've seen this in country after country, throughout history, not even just recent history.

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00:34:30.700 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:34:44.680 As we go over the facts of this executive order, what's left in it, Stu?

00:34:50.240 Pretty much we got to everything on that.

00:34:51.920 Some people are saying, wait, what about Boston?

00:34:54.160 There were, those were refugees, the Boston bombing. 0.99

00:34:57.720 Technically, those were asylum seekers.

00:34:59.420 There's sort of a different process there.

00:35:00.780 Also, they weren't from a banned country.

00:35:02.800 So those are, it would not have covered the Tsarniavs.

00:35:07.940 So it's a little bit different.

00:35:09.140 There was the Ohio State attack where there was a bunch of injuries.

00:35:12.720 That was a refugee in recent memory.

00:35:14.960 And that was, that was September 2016.

00:35:18.780 But again, like most of this stuff, wouldn't necessarily have stopped any of the attacks

00:35:22.700 that we talk about on a regular basis.

00:35:24.740 But again, you don't know what the next attack is.

00:35:27.400 You know, most of the time, it's not the exact same path as the last people.

00:35:31.960 And again, he, the executive order says it can be expanded.

00:35:36.540 I mean, you know, a lot of people on the left are going, oh, well, then why didn't he ban

00:35:39.440 people from Saudi Arabia?

00:35:40.700 Wait, so he's against all Muslims.

00:35:42.660 But he, for some reason, didn't ban Muslims from Saudi Arabia.

00:35:46.900 And you're complaining about that.

00:35:48.560 Like, do you think he hates all Muslims? 0.87

00:35:50.420 Or do you think that he hates all Muslims with the exception of some of the Muslims he 0.97

00:35:54.200 likes?

00:35:54.600 That's not a legitimate point.

00:35:57.060 Again, it shouldn't be to what he likes and what he feels.

00:36:00.520 And I completely agree with that.

00:36:01.880 The executive order thing is something that we complained about throughout the Obama

00:36:05.120 administration.

00:36:05.880 Bush administration, too.

00:36:06.920 And I would say this.

00:36:07.560 This is an interesting thing, I think, from the media perspective.

00:36:11.020 Because you started off this hour talking about the media, kind of, and how they are

00:36:14.640 handling this.

00:36:15.840 Is it that Donald Trump is doing much more with executive order than any previous president?

00:36:22.940 Or is it just that they just ignored all the other presidents?

00:36:26.760 Because, I mean, you've heard more about every individual executive order about Donald Trump

00:36:31.820 than you've ever heard about Barack Obama.

00:36:34.120 And my understanding is that they are in the same area as far as how much they're using

00:36:39.020 it.

00:36:39.220 And Trump, as a defense to his actions, has used Barack Obama as a model.

00:36:44.640 The exact thing you talked about many, many times.

00:36:48.780 No.

00:36:49.320 Saying, wait a minute, left, you're not going to like this when somebody you don't like

00:36:53.300 gets power.

00:36:54.260 And uses the same tools.

00:36:55.980 No.

00:36:56.280 We only have about five minutes of clips of me saying that.

00:36:58.820 Right.

00:36:59.420 Exactly.

00:37:00.420 So, I mean, and this is what happens.

00:37:02.480 You know, we opposed at the time the expansion of executive power because there shouldn't

00:37:08.680 be any president who has the power to do things through executive order.

00:37:12.820 We have a legislative process for a reason.

00:37:15.200 And I, so I do, I wish this went through the legislative process.

00:37:18.740 However, as an executive order, you look at it and there is just awkward and weird.

00:37:24.700 And that's what he liked.

00:37:25.600 He liked it.

00:37:26.300 Yeah.

00:37:26.600 And he's one of those guys that actually like basically ruined his life for his art.

00:37:31.300 Yeah.

00:37:31.420 And there's something very charming about that when you, when you're like, you're willing

00:37:34.760 to sell out that hard.

00:37:36.160 It's just charming.

00:37:37.080 I think it is.

00:37:38.360 It is.

00:37:38.920 It is.

00:37:39.300 Well, look at you.

00:37:40.040 I mean, Jeffy's done the same thing.

00:37:41.740 Yeah.

00:37:41.760 He doesn't want to eat.

00:37:42.500 He does this for the show and it's really done the same thing.

00:37:45.660 I mean, that's just a cheap shot. 0.63

00:37:47.620 I mean, are you calling him fat? 0.92

00:37:49.460 Yes.

00:37:49.720 I was thinking maybe.

00:37:51.040 Pretty much.

00:37:51.420 Pretty much.

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00:38:20.560 Hello, America.

00:38:21.460 Welcome to the program.

00:38:23.260 I want to define a couple of things.

00:38:26.560 Principles and make it stop.

00:38:28.740 And why just make it stop always beats principles.

00:38:33.820 The hypocrisy of the media and the left here is almost beyond comprehension.

00:38:41.500 It really is. 0.95

00:38:42.700 And we also want to speak to a couple of Muslims.

00:38:45.460 We have a Muslim in Oklahoma, 35-year-old Muslim American, who says,

00:38:49.940 I am perfectly fine with what's being called a Muslim ban. 1.00

00:38:53.140 And it is not a Muslim ban.

00:38:55.820 It is a pause on the vetting.

00:38:59.600 Now, if that changes, well, then maybe it becomes a Muslim ban.

00:39:05.020 But right now, there are 20 or 22 Muslim countries in the world.

00:39:10.080 Only seven are affected.

00:39:12.420 And they are the seven that Barack Obama identified as troubled nations with serious problems with terror.

00:39:22.700 We begin there with the press right now.

00:39:25.500 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:39:48.280 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:39:51.740 We have to decide whether we are going to be a part of the solution or a part of the problem.

00:39:59.260 And I want to speak to the press about that.

00:40:03.480 I have so many friends, a couple of friends at church yesterday said,

00:40:07.380 Glenn, just give up on the media.

00:40:09.400 No, I'm not going to give up on the media.

00:40:12.820 I mean, I have very little hope that most of them will do this.

00:40:16.340 But I think that some of them are going to change.

00:40:20.300 Did you read that NBC is talking about now becoming the next Fox News?

00:40:28.180 That NBC is now looking with the hiring of Megyn Kelly and Greta Van Susteren.

00:40:33.560 They're now saying they want to go to the center and center right.

00:40:40.400 I told you I thought that was happening with NBC.

00:40:43.680 Don't know if it is for sure.

00:40:45.760 Yeah, we'll see.

00:40:46.200 But that is that is from an inside source at NBC that is saying that they are trying to become the next Fox News.

00:40:53.460 Very interesting.

00:40:54.940 We'll see what happens.

00:40:57.100 I don't want the next Fox News or the next CNN or the next MSNBC.

00:41:02.420 I want something that is truly without an agenda.

00:41:06.200 The problem with the news is they won't admit their mistakes because I think most of them don't see their mistakes.

00:41:16.800 And what we have now, the reason why Donald Trump won is because there are a lot of people in the country.

00:41:24.480 And I didn't understand this until recently.

00:41:32.040 There's a lot of people that are at the point of make it stop.

00:41:38.020 Just make it stop.

00:41:40.500 I knew people were frustrated.

00:41:44.380 I knew that people were tired.

00:41:49.060 But I don't think I really understood the average American and how they feel like nothing is getting better.

00:42:00.280 In fact, things are all getting worse and are really, truly struggling to hold it together.

00:42:11.440 And make it stop wins over principles every time.

00:42:16.820 It's why the lone survivor, Marcus Luttrell, told me one day,

00:42:21.980 We all say, Glenn, we all talk.

00:42:29.000 When we're under torture, we all talk.

00:42:32.040 No matter what anyone says to you, everyone breaks.

00:42:36.780 There comes a point where you just want it to stop.

00:42:41.980 And that's where the average American was.

00:42:45.080 They want the insanity to stop.

00:42:48.260 They want the transformation to stop.

00:42:53.120 It's interesting because the press wrote this weekend that Donald Trump and Steve Bannon are transforming America.

00:43:03.580 Well, no.

00:43:06.640 Actually, your guy said we're just five days away from fundamental transformation in the United States of America.

00:43:13.160 So your guy transformed the country.

00:43:15.300 You didn't care to notice or care about the people who said,

00:43:21.400 Wait, I don't want our country transformed.

00:43:25.480 Now you think it's being transformed.

00:43:28.580 And it may be.

00:43:29.900 If you don't think that make it stop is true, and you're on the left, let me prove it to you.

00:43:47.860 You wanted people to stop trying to block progress.

00:43:53.460 And so it didn't matter.

00:43:56.640 When Nancy Pelosi said, We'll pole vault into health care if we have to. 0.93

00:44:01.200 We'll climb the wall.

00:44:02.240 We'll pole vault.

00:44:02.940 We'll do by hook or by crook.

00:44:04.680 The president even said, Hook or by crook we'll get this done.

00:44:10.140 Later, he said, I'll get these things passed because I have a phone and a pen.

00:44:15.280 In other words, I will call for protests in the street or I will sign an executive order.

00:44:20.480 And you were fine with it.

00:44:25.760 We weren't.

00:44:27.580 We warned over and over and over again.

00:44:30.320 No, you have to understand you might like it now, but eventually somebody that you don't like is going to have power.

00:44:39.260 And you're not going to like what they do.

00:44:42.160 And that's where we are.

00:44:43.460 That's why things will get worse because the people who voted for Donald Trump just wanted the craziness to stop.

00:44:56.940 And if you can't, and you're on the left, you can't understand why people would say it's craziness.

00:45:01.700 When you're asking people to deny sexual orientation, that their parts are meaningless, that there is no such thing as a male and a female anymore.

00:45:16.720 And you've done it, if I would have said in 1995 or in 1996, that by 2016, 20 years down the road, everybody will be fine with gay marriage, will have gay marriage as part of the law.

00:45:36.360 And conservatives will be cool with calling a sports hero, Bruce Jenner, by a female name because he'll just come out and say, even though I haven't touched my body parts, I am a woman.

00:45:51.060 I'm Caitlyn.

00:45:52.300 If I would have said we would have been okay with that in 1995, you would have deemed me out of my mind.

00:45:57.580 If I would have said it in 2000, you would have deemed me out of my mind.

00:46:01.100 I contend when Barack Obama was against gay marriage in 2008, and so was Hillary Clinton, if I said we would have that by 2016, you would say I was out of my mind.

00:46:13.080 In eight years, we went from a country that was against gay marriage to a country that says, Caitlyn Jenner.

00:46:21.780 You pushed us to the wall and said, oh, now, by the way, you have to deny all sexuality, that there is no such thing as gender, period.

00:46:36.840 Make it stop.

00:46:37.780 Can somebody just make it stop?

00:46:39.720 People hit their limit.

00:46:41.560 It's one of the things I warned about when we went over the history of Hungary when I was back at Fox.

00:46:49.760 Remember, what did people do?

00:46:51.780 When they turned the streets inside out, upside down, what happened?

00:46:58.340 People cried out to the government, make it stop. 0.95

00:47:01.740 Now our problem is the right says, screw you, left. 0.73

00:47:06.940 You didn't listen to us at all. 1.00

00:47:08.960 Screw you. 1.00

00:47:09.980 You tried to trash our nation and completely trash everything that I held dear. 1.00

00:47:15.600 And the left is now saying, oh, yeah, make it stop.

00:47:23.100 And neither one will care about principles.

00:47:28.120 You know, when the border thing was happening, because people don't know how others can sit here

00:47:40.680 while this, you know, Muslim ban is going on.

00:47:46.400 Well, first of all, because you're listening to fake news.

00:47:50.720 In this particular instance, the media is giving you fake news.

00:47:55.980 It is not a Muslim ban.

00:47:57.860 Now, it could turn into that, but that's not what it is now.

00:48:01.520 I don't like that this fact that it's an executive order.

00:48:05.380 I don't like the fact that it was rolled out by a bunch of third graders, it seemed.

00:48:11.520 Nobody had their ducks in a row on this one, but it's not what the media is saying.

00:48:20.520 But let me tell the media and the left where this passion to say, shut up, came from.

00:48:29.820 Why we are, I can't say we, why half of the country is willing to say, I don't care.

00:48:37.680 I don't care.

00:48:39.400 Start with the border.

00:48:40.380 President Obama went down to the border and said, it's effectively finished.

00:48:45.680 The border is effectively finished.

00:48:48.400 The border fence.

00:48:50.000 Everywhere we could fence it, it's been fenced.

00:48:53.360 And we're safe.

00:48:54.900 And there's not a problem.

00:48:57.200 That wasn't true.

00:48:58.920 Everybody on the right knew that it wasn't true.

00:49:01.400 And the media went along with it because of their agenda.

00:49:05.240 They gave him a pass.

00:49:06.780 Then they also said that anybody who opposes the president and the border was a racist.

00:49:12.340 We went down with $3 million worth of food and clothing and things to help children, to help children on the border.

00:49:22.760 And to send them back home, but to take care of them while they were here.

00:49:28.480 Not to have the government do it, us do it.

00:49:33.320 You and the media never covered it.

00:49:35.600 You didn't pay attention to it.

00:49:37.220 Because it didn't fit your agenda.

00:49:39.240 When we warned that those people on the border are being moved by the federal government into our cities without telling our cities and the public where they're going, you're just dropping them into our cities, you yawned.

00:49:54.140 When I pointed out that there is really bad stuff going on in these camps where they're keeping these immigrants, these illegals, where they are breaking up families, and it is horrific conditions, you yawned again.

00:50:12.560 Because it didn't fit your agenda.

00:50:14.640 When Occupy Wall Street came, you practically laid down the red carpet for them.

00:50:22.600 You called them patriots.

00:50:24.480 You called them informed.

00:50:25.740 You called them peaceful.

00:50:26.920 Even though, time and again, there were rapes.

00:50:30.440 There were murders early on.

00:50:32.360 They tried to blow up a bridge in Ohio.

00:50:35.340 And yet, you didn't care.

00:50:37.400 You didn't say anything.

00:50:38.420 When the Tea Party met, and we didn't have websites like the Women's March does, we didn't have labor unions providing buses, it really was, mom and dad around the kitchen table, you first said that we were astroturf, that we were nothing but rubes being used by the politicians.

00:50:59.480 Then, when that didn't work, you started accusing us of being terrorists, that we wanted to blow up the government.

00:51:09.280 When Madonna said that, you excused it.

00:51:12.280 When we didn't say it, you said we felt it in our hearts.

00:51:19.440 Time left us out of the year in review in 2010.

00:51:24.920 Was there a bigger story in 2010 than the Tea Party movement that led to a historic change of power?

00:51:32.820 They left the Tea Party out of their year in review.

00:51:36.260 I can guarantee you it's only a matter of time before this is deemed the year of the protester.

00:51:43.240 And you won't see it in the media.

00:51:45.020 If I see one more person say that Donald Trump is an authoritarian, or this is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany, or that he's a racist,

00:51:59.500 when I pointed these things out, I was pointing them out about the authoritarian nature of the silencing of the press, which Barack Obama did,

00:52:13.440 and every member of the press knows that, the use of executive order and strong-arm tactics.

00:52:24.680 His hanging out with authoritarian leaders.

00:52:29.080 You said I was a conspiracy nut.

00:52:31.460 You said it was morally reprehensible to even use the word Nazi.

00:52:36.400 And yet, you don't seem to care now.

00:52:44.560 That's why nobody trusts you.

00:52:47.280 That's why we're at Make It Stop.

00:52:51.360 That's what gave Trump his power.

00:52:55.000 And if you continue down this road, it's going to get worse on both sides.

00:53:01.300 The solution on this, in a minute.

00:53:08.600 First, let me tell you about gold lining.

00:53:11.880 You know, I will tell you, it kills me.

00:53:15.220 It absolutely kills me that the left is now saying that economic tragedy is right around the corner.

00:53:22.700 That Joe Biden would come out and say that the order of the economic world is on the verge of collapse.

00:53:33.620 That now, who was it?

00:53:35.800 USA Today last week came out and said, we are on the verge of a recession and maybe more.

00:53:42.580 Well, you didn't hear any of that.

00:53:44.400 They're now talking about food storage and buying gold on the left.

00:53:48.780 And the right is totally fine.

00:53:51.200 Guys, the facts haven't changed.

00:53:56.940 Nothing has changed.

00:53:58.980 Nothing has changed.

00:54:02.680 We have to pay for the sins of the past.

00:54:07.040 And the sins of the past started long ago, before Barack Obama and before Donald Trump.

00:54:12.120 And the sins of the past are things like loaning Puerto Rico a crap load of money, giving them money, buying their bonds so they can stay open.

00:54:24.220 And yet, for the last few months, they haven't been paying back their bonds.

00:54:29.500 And nobody's talking about those.

00:54:31.100 Those bonds are part of maybe your mutual fund.

00:54:36.260 Part of the teachers union mutual fund.

00:54:39.260 The police officers and firefighters mutual funds.

00:54:43.680 When they collapse, people will wake up.

00:54:47.500 You want to be the one that is calm.

00:54:51.340 You want to be the one that knows the truth.

00:54:54.300 And the truth is, math is math.

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00:56:51.900 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:56:55.760 Welcome to it.

00:56:56.580 I'm so glad you're here.

00:56:58.100 Coming up in a few minutes, we have Matt.

00:57:00.480 He's a 35-year-old Muslim American who agrees with Donald Trump.

00:57:05.740 Next hour, I have Zutty Jasser on, who's going to talk about this.

00:57:10.340 And also, Riaz Batal, who is a, I guess you would call him somebody on the left,

00:57:18.360 but he sure doesn't seem it.

00:57:20.020 He's a Muslim, Pakistani gay man, which couldn't check more boxes. 0.98

00:57:29.080 Doesn't even sound real when you say it. 0.96

00:57:30.640 I mean, it doesn't even sound real.

00:57:31.140 But he is, I have a feeling, I have not talked to him yet, but I have a feeling he's for extra vetting, 0.95

00:57:37.780 seeing that he's one of the guys that, you know, extreme Islam want to kill. 0.98

00:57:42.320 So, we will talk to both of them next hour, something that I don't think you're going to get in the mainstream media.

00:57:51.740 You know, talking about there's philosophy, and philosophy happens when times are good.

00:57:57.000 When times are bad, people just say, to hell with the philosophy.

00:58:02.040 I just want it to stop.

00:58:05.600 And that's why this is not worth working with the media.

00:58:13.280 Because they're ratcheting it up.

00:58:15.240 They ratcheted it up by their inaction, and now they're ratcheting it up by their action.

00:58:20.520 And we need some sober heads.

00:58:23.800 Because times are only going to get more tough.

00:58:27.000 When it comes to, when it comes to what are we supposed to do,

00:58:34.920 well, we can take things into our own hands,

00:58:37.860 and we can work through organizations like Mercury One,

00:58:41.780 that while the government did nothing to save Christians,

00:58:44.960 we took 4,000 Christians and got them out of Syria and Iraq. 0.73

00:58:51.640 Nobody else did that.

00:58:52.960 In fact, the mainstream media never really reported on it.

00:58:55.740 But you can do things yourself.

00:59:00.660 And I want to go there and take phone calls next.

00:59:04.160 You know, if I may mince words here,

00:59:20.860 people are saying that it's un-American because America needs to be nice.

00:59:28.980 No, America needs to be kind.

00:59:33.220 And there's a huge difference between kind and nice.

00:59:37.660 What is nice?

00:59:39.100 You want to be nice to somebody.

00:59:40.800 What does that mean?

00:59:42.940 You want to take refugees in because you're nice. 0.97

00:59:47.940 I don't think Jesus was nice.

00:59:53.480 Jesus was kind.

00:59:56.860 Kindness, balances, wisdom, and love.

01:00:04.780 Being kind to somebody.

01:00:06.560 Sometimes you're kind to somebody.

01:00:08.940 We were just talking about Stu's dog who died last week.

01:00:14.260 And we were just talking about how hard it is to put our dogs down or have them die in our life.

01:00:22.900 Because they're family members.

01:00:24.200 And I remember we had to make the decision of putting Victor down.

01:00:30.880 It wasn't nice of us.

01:00:32.720 We didn't do that because we were nice.

01:00:34.540 We were trying to be kind.

01:00:37.200 We loved him.

01:00:39.440 But at what point?

01:00:40.740 We used wisdom to say,

01:00:42.740 at what point do we let him go?

01:00:46.580 At what point do we help him go?

01:00:49.980 That's not being nice.

01:00:51.260 It's being kind.

01:00:52.380 So, this is not a Muslim ban in the first place.

01:00:59.340 And yes, you can say we're not being nice.

01:01:01.680 But it's more important for us to be kind.

01:01:05.660 We have to do the right things for our country.

01:01:09.040 And the right things for the refugee.

01:01:14.440 We have to find the right ones.

01:01:16.160 You know, we sent 4,000 people that were in Syria and Iraq.

01:01:24.320 And we got them into new houses and new communities all around the world.

01:01:28.140 Except for the United States.

01:01:29.920 But all around the world.

01:01:31.840 We did extreme vetting on them.

01:01:34.120 If we can do it, the government can.

01:01:35.660 We even went and we had to build a secondary refugee camp in Greece.

01:01:44.940 Because the Muslim camp, the people who were refugees, 1.00

01:01:53.560 were still being targeted by the bad Muslims that Greece had accepted as refugees. 1.00

01:02:02.380 We didn't know which ones were which.

01:02:05.560 Greece didn't know.

01:02:06.540 So, what did they do?

01:02:10.380 They needed a way to relieve the suffering of the Yazidis and the Christians.

01:02:19.220 And so, we built a secondary placement camp.

01:02:24.000 So, we could separate them.

01:02:27.000 Not because we were being nice.

01:02:30.920 But because we were trying to be kind.

01:02:33.060 We couldn't lump all the Muslims together and say, 0.98

01:02:36.060 you're all bad. 1.00

01:02:36.860 You guys out. 0.98

01:02:42.120 That's where we have to go.

01:02:44.280 We have to have reason.

01:02:46.440 Fix reason firmly in her seat. 0.99

01:02:49.480 And question with boldness.

01:02:52.020 How many of us have been uncomfortable lately?

01:02:55.620 And I don't mean uncomfortable with what the other side is doing.

01:02:58.980 Uncomfortable because you have said,

01:03:01.140 let me actually look at what is happening.

01:03:05.800 How many people on the left are saying,

01:03:09.740 wait a minute, let me try to understand those people who voted for Donald Trump.

01:03:15.820 I contend, very few.

01:03:20.180 It's hard.

01:03:23.260 It makes you uncomfortable.

01:03:24.920 You should be risking and uncomfortable in your thoughts almost every day.

01:03:31.460 It shows that you're reaching out.

01:03:33.600 It shows that you're expanding.

01:03:35.140 It's growth.

01:03:37.400 As you work out,

01:03:39.260 and I've been told this because I don't know for a fact,

01:03:42.300 but as you work out,

01:03:43.680 your muscles tear.

01:03:45.380 And it hurts.

01:03:47.560 That is a good kind of pain.

01:03:49.720 being intellectually uncomfortable

01:03:54.080 and saying, wait a minute,

01:03:56.220 let's reason this out.

01:03:58.820 It's going to make you hurt.

01:04:02.960 But if you,

01:04:03.900 if you balance love and wisdom,

01:04:08.380 we can be great again,

01:04:10.920 because what made us great is we were a nation,

01:04:13.620 not of nice people,

01:04:14.560 but of kind and generous people.

01:04:18.340 Let me go to Matt in Oklahoma.

01:04:21.640 He's an American Muslim.

01:04:23.320 Hello, Matt.

01:04:24.040 Line one.

01:04:24.860 You're on.

01:04:25.620 Hey, how's it going?

01:04:26.780 Good.

01:04:28.260 Good.

01:04:29.080 I wanted to say,

01:04:30.240 I think you were a little too overzealous in saying that I support Trump.

01:04:33.660 I agree with you 100%.

01:04:35.560 I think that,

01:04:36.300 I think that it's not a Muslim ban.

01:04:38.800 I think that it's more than prudent measures.

01:04:41.240 I mean, I think,

01:04:41.980 I don't,

01:04:42.320 I'm not happy about,

01:04:43.700 you know,

01:04:44.120 executive orders,

01:04:45.220 but I think that for the left to try to act as the saviors 0.99

01:04:49.320 or the friends of the Muslim community is extremely hypocritical, 0.95

01:04:53.580 considering how much the left has bombed Muslim countries, 0.99

01:04:57.500 and more so as a minority within the Muslim community,

01:05:02.260 as a Shia,

01:05:03.140 the Wahhabis, 0.99

01:05:04.680 the so-called Islamic extremists that you're talking about,

01:05:07.960 have targeted us more than they've targeted anybody.

01:05:09.960 And you can go online and watch videos in Syria of them going up to people

01:05:14.640 saying,

01:05:15.000 are you Sunni or Shia?

01:05:16.180 If they say Shia, 1.00

01:05:17.120 they shoot them. 0.99

01:05:18.060 And I don't want those people over here in my country because I live here 0.68

01:05:21.180 and I want to raise my kids here and I want them to be safe.

01:05:24.280 Not,

01:05:24.800 you know,

01:05:25.000 I don't want this to be Aleppo part two over here. 0.95

01:05:28.220 So Matt,

01:05:29.060 how do we solve this?

01:05:30.520 How does,

01:05:31.860 how do you know who the good guys and the bad guys are?

01:05:36.720 Again,

01:05:37.300 you were exactly right.

01:05:38.440 First of all,

01:05:39.160 you leave care on the sidelines because care is,

01:05:42.940 they've proven themselves time and time again to be concerned with only the views,

01:05:48.280 the same views that the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt holds,

01:05:50.600 which is the same views that Hamas holds in Palestine.

01:05:53.740 And you,

01:05:55.920 there are many,

01:05:57.400 many Muslim groups aside from care that don't identify with care at all.

01:06:02.580 You,

01:06:03.200 you have them,

01:06:04.840 we sit down,

01:06:05.860 we talk,

01:06:07.300 we call,

01:06:08.000 the people that you're,

01:06:08.960 that you call Islamic extremists,

01:06:10.180 we call talk theories,

01:06:11.100 which means somebody who,

01:06:12.040 who thinks that nobody is Muslim but them.

01:06:14.660 And for us,

01:06:15.660 that's a pretty easy identification.

01:06:16.960 There are certain things they do and say that you can always spot them.

01:06:20.220 And they,

01:06:20.880 and you meet them here too.

01:06:23.380 And we need to figure out as a Muslim community,

01:06:26.380 at what point do we start taking it seriously?

01:06:29.240 Because it's not,

01:06:30.320 it's not,

01:06:31.220 you, 0.87

01:06:31.660 it's not Glenn Beck's job to weed out the bad apples from the Muslim community. 1.00

01:06:36.160 Amen.

01:06:36.620 And we,

01:06:37.000 you know,

01:06:37.220 we,

01:06:37.620 and we tend to say,

01:06:39.240 oh,

01:06:40.360 well,

01:06:40.560 you know,

01:06:40.840 a few bad apples,

01:06:41.800 it's just a few bad apples,

01:06:42.780 but we're forgetting that the phrase is a few bad apples spoils the bunch.

01:06:47.120 And that's what's happening.

01:06:48.340 We're let,

01:06:48.700 we're, 0.99

01:06:48.920 we're not weeding out these scumbags here and abroad. 0.99

01:06:54.720 And right now, 0.99

01:06:56.060 well,

01:06:56.160 you know,

01:06:56.400 like you said,

01:06:56.920 you have to pay for the sins of your past.

01:06:58.980 And American Muslims just need to take this seriously, 1.00

01:07:01.820 in my opinion.

01:07:03.180 Again,

01:07:03.540 I'm not,

01:07:04.140 I'm not a hundred percent on board with the way the ban is implemented.

01:07:08.040 There's a,

01:07:08.240 there's definitely Saudi Arabia needs to be on the list.

01:07:10.820 There's probably one or two countries I would take off.

01:07:13.080 But that's,

01:07:13.880 I mean,

01:07:14.140 he got the list from Obama.

01:07:16.360 Right.

01:07:16.900 You know,

01:07:17.240 Trump isn't to blame for that.

01:07:18.880 Yeah.

01:07:19.180 But lists aside,

01:07:21.540 at what point do Muslims here take accountability and say, 1.00

01:07:24.860 Hey,

01:07:25.560 this is our job.

01:07:26.480 I mean,

01:07:26.820 the next guy on the,

01:07:28.420 you said you have up,

01:07:29.320 I can hear the,

01:07:30.820 the, 0.98

01:07:31.100 the gay man from Pakistan. 0.97

01:07:33.200 First of all, 0.99

01:07:33.880 I say,

01:07:34.200 As-salamu alaykum to him.

01:07:35.340 And I'm sorry that,

01:07:36.680 you know,

01:07:37.020 I'm sorry that he's in this situation as well.

01:07:39.400 I mean,

01:07:39.600 it can't be easy seeing,

01:07:41.860 seeing the left wanting to invite over the very people who would do serious harm to somebody like that.

01:07:49.680 And I mean,

01:07:50.620 we,

01:07:50.980 we can't take it as just,

01:07:52.460 you know,

01:07:52.660 we can't be spectators in this.

01:07:53.960 We have to be active participants in the securing of our own safety here.

01:07:58.680 Thank you,

01:07:59.360 Matt.

01:07:59.620 I appreciate it.

01:08:00.480 And that,

01:08:00.860 that is the point too,

01:08:02.380 that I want to,

01:08:03.080 that I tried to make last half hour is we have to be active.

01:08:06.740 If you want to save refugees,

01:08:09.100 we've already proven that it can be done.

01:08:12.880 We saved 4,000.

01:08:14.740 What can the Muslim community do? 1.00

01:08:18.180 We couldn't get them into the United States.

01:08:20.520 Okay.

01:08:21.200 So we got them someplace else.

01:08:23.120 You don't need the government.

01:08:25.120 Where else can they go?

01:08:27.380 You need a government.

01:08:28.560 You need a government.

01:08:29.480 You need a government.

01:08:29.500 To be cooperative.

01:08:30.420 And there will be governments that will cooperate.

01:08:33.180 Why isn't Saudi Arabia taking more of these guys?

01:08:36.960 Yeah.

01:08:37.300 And I,

01:08:37.440 and he,

01:08:38.180 the caller,

01:08:38.800 Matt brings up a great point,

01:08:39.760 which I,

01:08:40.220 I think you can read this executive order as if it's not even a Muslim ban of 0.59

01:08:44.580 these specific countries.

01:08:45.520 The way it's typically been talked about is,

01:08:47.240 well,

01:08:47.380 these are seven Muslim majority countries and only religious minorities can be 0.91

01:08:53.220 considered in this way as this goes forward.

01:08:57.000 But I mean,

01:08:58.340 Syria in particular,

01:09:00.080 74% Sunni,

01:09:02.540 13% Shia. 1.00

01:09:04.360 Shia is being killed like crazy over there. 0.98

01:09:06.300 Shia is a religious minority. 0.98

01:09:07.640 I think you could legitimately say that Shia is,

01:09:09.040 or qualifies a religious minority and would be actually included.

01:09:12.380 I agree.

01:09:12.940 To be in this particular availability.

01:09:15.140 And those are the ones that we should bring in.

01:09:17.320 I mean,

01:09:17.600 if you're going to bring them in,

01:09:19.180 you,

01:09:19.340 you want the ones,

01:09:20.420 why would the ones that are not being persecuted,

01:09:22.940 the ones who are doing the persecution,

01:09:25.220 why would we bring them in?

01:09:27.440 Right.

01:09:27.960 I mean,

01:09:28.200 so I,

01:09:29.120 I think you could absolutely read it that way.

01:09:31.520 I don't know.

01:09:32.000 I mean,

01:09:32.880 judging by what Rudy Giuliani said about the intent,

01:09:35.940 of this,

01:09:36.520 which he,

01:09:37.220 he described it as Trump came to it and said,

01:09:39.600 I want a Muslim ban. 1.00

01:09:40.640 How do I do it legally?

01:09:41.900 And this is what they came up with.

01:09:43.000 It was incredible that he said that.

01:09:44.360 Incredible that he was,

01:09:44.960 I mean,

01:09:45.540 it's incredible that it happened that way,

01:09:47.620 but also incredible that he would blurt it out on television.

01:09:50.140 Yes.

01:09:50.240 But if that's true,

01:09:51.400 then I would assume probably not for Shias. 0.99

01:09:53.800 But I mean,

01:09:54.060 I think if you're looking at this as the,

01:09:56.360 the described intent,

01:09:59.200 which is to allow people who are being persecuted because of their religion to be,

01:10:04.460 to be helped.

01:10:05.880 I mean,

01:10:06.040 I think Shias would fall into that. 1.00

01:10:07.480 I will tell you,

01:10:08.020 if it doesn't include Shias, 0.99

01:10:10.080 then you'd have,

01:10:10.940 then you have something to talk about.

01:10:12.820 There's an,

01:10:13.220 there's another thing in this particular for sure,

01:10:15.360 for Syria.

01:10:16.380 So maybe not with that,

01:10:17.540 but in the other countries,

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01:12:47.340 We have a Zutty Jasser. 1.00

01:12:49.560 Still haven't gotten confirmation from Riaz Patel spoke to him last night

01:12:54.500 through email and,

01:12:57.160 you know,

01:12:58.400 was really curious to how he looks at the world and what's happening now.

01:13:04.140 And,

01:13:05.020 you know,

01:13:06.080 as we exchanged emails,

01:13:07.480 he's pretty much coming out where,

01:13:09.220 where I am,

01:13:10.760 which I find heartening.

01:13:12.560 Here's a guy on the left and pretty hard on the left that agrees.

01:13:18.320 We,

01:13:18.820 we have to do something.

01:13:20.880 We have to have some reason here and know who's coming into our country. 1.00

01:13:26.360 And.

01:13:28.400 I,

01:13:29.040 I,

01:13:29.520 I urge you,

01:13:32.420 whether you're on the left or the right.

01:13:35.600 To not excuse your side for anything.

01:13:40.940 For instance,

01:13:42.000 I don't like the executive order.

01:13:45.140 When you're talking to somebody about that,

01:13:47.380 find the common ground.

01:13:48.560 I don't like the fact that it was an executive order.

01:13:51.660 I didn't like him when Obama did it.

01:13:53.480 I don't like it now.

01:13:55.140 I don't like the way this was rolled out.

01:13:57.080 And,

01:13:58.540 and we'll have to wait and see.

01:14:01.640 But if you actually read the executive order,

01:14:05.580 ask people that the first thing,

01:14:07.160 have you read the executive order before we talk about this?

01:14:10.100 Cause it's really short.

01:14:11.080 Would you just mind getting online and just read it real quick?

01:14:14.280 Because we may be arguing over nothing because it's not a Muslim ban.

01:14:19.320 And when you read it,

01:14:20.300 it's pretty simple to read.

01:14:21.440 When you read it,

01:14:22.520 you're like,

01:14:23.100 Oh,

01:14:24.580 Oh,

01:14:24.980 okay.

01:14:26.100 I mean,

01:14:26.340 I heard it all through the media and then I got online yesterday and I

01:14:30.200 actually read it.

01:14:30.960 And I'm like,

01:14:32.400 I,

01:14:33.120 all right,

01:14:33.940 is this,

01:14:34.500 there must be another executive order.

01:14:35.760 Cause it's,

01:14:36.320 I don't have a problem with this one.

01:14:38.520 I mean,

01:14:38.960 I don't like the way it's,

01:14:40.100 I don't like the way it was done again.

01:14:41.840 Well,

01:14:42.100 messy and it's messy.

01:14:43.760 But again,

01:14:44.660 that's not what I'm hearing reported on TV.

01:14:47.720 Right.

01:14:48.080 They are focusing on obviously the,

01:14:50.060 the cases where,

01:14:51.460 you know,

01:14:51.520 there was a five-year-old kid who was flying back from Iran,

01:14:54.980 who was trying to meet his parents at the airport.

01:14:56.680 He was detained for several hours.

01:14:57.880 If I hear one more time that the guy who might win the award from,

01:15:02.020 you know,

01:15:02.440 the Academy from Iran can't make it to the Oscars.

01:15:07.120 Oh,

01:15:07.620 boo hoo. 1.00

01:15:08.320 I mean,

01:15:08.600 I'm,

01:15:09.140 Oh no,

01:15:10.540 not the Oscars.

01:15:11.640 That is,

01:15:12.440 there is a specific line in the executive order that is supposed to deal with

01:15:16.960 situations like this.

01:15:17.960 There better be.

01:15:18.800 If you don't think the,

01:15:19.480 the Iran Oscar guy or,

01:15:21.960 or lady,

01:15:22.740 whoever it is,

01:15:23.400 is supposed to be,

01:15:24.300 you don't think that they should be banned from coming here.

01:15:27.060 There is a process where they can say,

01:15:28.580 okay,

01:15:28.720 this person's not a threat and they can come.

01:15:30.240 Now they,

01:15:30.980 again,

01:15:31.160 didn't handle that rollout.

01:15:32.640 Well,

01:15:33.140 and the process is not well,

01:15:34.140 and the process is not well-defined.

01:15:34.900 However,

01:15:35.540 there is an opportunity for that is built into it.

01:15:38.840 The exceptions are built into the executive order.

01:15:41.700 Um,

01:15:42.100 and you know,

01:15:42.560 immigration policy is handled by the executive office largely.

01:15:45.240 And you know,

01:15:46.140 he has a pretty wide berth to do things like this.

01:15:48.880 And he's,

01:15:49.860 it's not a Muslim ban.

01:15:51.060 As we just discussed,

01:15:51.960 there's a possibility that she,

01:15:53.600 a Muslim from many of these countries could be considered religious minorities.

01:15:57.220 We are one.

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01:16:42.840 We have reformed this.

01:16:45.400 It is with Dr.

01:16:46.580 Zutty Jasser.

01:16:47.480 He is one of the most outspoken voices inside Islam of saying the United States government is playing footsie with all of the wrong people.

01:16:57.800 He is a reformer and Islam as it is known in much of the Middle East needs to be reformed.

01:17:07.800 It's why so many people come here and they are petrified of the people that we are allowing in.

01:17:14.340 I wanted to talk to him about the so-called Muslim ban and get his take on what Donald Trump did over the weekend.

01:17:23.760 We go to Dr. Zutty Jasser right now.

01:17:27.760 I will make a stand.

01:17:30.220 I will raise my voice.

01:17:32.480 I will hold your hand.

01:17:34.860 Cause we are one.

01:17:36.720 I will beat my drum.

01:17:38.960 I have made my choice.

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01:17:54.740 Zutty.

01:17:56.540 Welcome to the program.

01:17:58.420 Glad you're here, sir.

01:18:00.820 It's great to be with you.

01:18:02.340 Thank you for having me.

01:18:03.720 And, you know, thank you for letting me work on reforming this.

01:18:08.400 I will tell you, Zutty, you are, you're a hero to me because we all know what happens to those who speak out about against radical Islam, especially if you're in Islam and you are a proud Muslim.

01:18:22.000 Uh, and, um, you have been warning that the United States is in with the wrong guys for a very long time.

01:18:28.960 First, let me ask you this question.

01:18:32.160 Um, has anyone from the Trump administration reached out to you yet, um, to bring your, your organization into the fold?

01:18:39.720 Uh, not yet, not yet.

01:18:42.480 I think, you know, they're obviously been very busy the last week, so maybe we'll give them a pass on that.

01:18:47.100 I certainly have worked with a number of the folks he's appointed.

01:18:49.880 Yes.

01:18:50.100 Uh, so I look forward to, uh, helping them navigate these waters.

01:18:54.340 And as we saw in the last few days, uh, uh, they got to get ahead of the messaging game because, uh, they, the left will use identity politics and exploit us Muslims whenever possible for their, their own benefit.

01:19:06.600 Okay.

01:19:06.940 So, Zutty, tell me what your thoughts are about this so-called, what the media is calling a Muslim ban.

01:19:14.100 It's not a Muslim ban.

01:19:15.800 I mean, it's, it's absurd.

01:19:17.260 Uh, they're pausing from seven countries that Obama had already listed as a hotspot.

01:19:22.560 I would have added, if you're going to start, I would have added Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Pakistan, at least, since those are probably the primary cauldrons of, uh, of radical Islamism. 0.98

01:19:33.280 But, you know, having said that, the bottom line is, is that, uh, it's, it's important to realize it's a pause.

01:19:38.880 It's not a ban, uh, that America was founded in a battle against theocracy.

01:19:43.020 And to say that currently folks coming in had been vetted is absurd.

01:19:47.040 The vetting that the Obama administration used was a anti-terrorism, anti-violent extremism vetting, which included no ideology.

01:19:54.760 And I actually debated last night on Fox, the, uh, uh, head of the International, uh, Rescue Commission.

01:20:01.160 And he couldn't come up with one evidence that they're vetting against jihadism or Islamism.

01:20:06.360 So the pause is necessary, but the implementation has certainly been haphazard the last few days.

01:20:12.820 And if you get this wrong and we lose the messaging, you know, America should never lose its beacon on a hill as being that, that place where people come for refuge, for, for freedom and liberty.

01:20:24.500 We don't want theocrats here.

01:20:26.100 And it's very pro-Muslim, pro-modern Islam to say that we don't want theocrats here. 0.70

01:20:31.240 And, you know, for, for, for people like Senator Schumer to say that, to, to shed false tears and say that somehow this is going to feed into the anti-American narrative is absurd when Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia have accepted zero, zero refugees in.

01:20:48.160 So to say that it's anti-Muslim to just put a pause on a very anemic program anyway from the Obama administration is absurd.

01:20:55.320 Sudi, why doesn't, why doesn't Saudi Arabia take any Muslim refugees? 1.00

01:21:04.220 Two things that should be clear to Americans, which is number one, is they are anti-Islamists as far as the grassroots viral movement.

01:21:15.980 They claim to be against the brotherhood and they realize the, the, the ideology that they're spreading and how it'll bite them in the rear end.

01:21:23.260 So while they're with us, they're the firefighters, they're also the arsonists.

01:21:27.440 So they get it.

01:21:28.560 Secondly, the refugees get it also.

01:21:30.860 They don't want to go to places as bad or worse than what they're fighting for freedom in Syria for.

01:21:36.180 So there's two things there that make it pretty much a mutual hate between those, the majority of refugees who, who really want to be free and away from the, the dual genocide happening from ISIS and from the Assad and Iranian regime.

01:21:51.100 Okay. So I know this would be, you know, a pure guess, but you know, we, we let 15,000 or a hundred and let's just say a round number.

01:22:02.000 We let a hundred thousand people in, um, and they're Muslim refugees from that part of the world.

01:22:09.820 Any idea how many, what percentage have been radicalized?

01:22:19.300 Well, this is, this is the key question.

01:22:21.600 And this is what we've been screaming from the rooftops for the last eight years, actually, you know, five years, obviously since the revolution.

01:22:28.000 Uh, but studies have shown in Europe, 20 to 25% of refugees have sympathies for ISIS sympathies.

01:22:37.700 Now they're not radical as far as how do you define radical?

01:22:40.720 Are they militant who are trying to commit acts of violence?

01:22:43.940 No, they'll pass the muster for, do they belong to ISIS?

01:22:47.280 No, but just as in the cold war, these are ISIS sympathizers.

01:22:51.400 They believe in the cause.

01:22:52.480 They believe in Islamic state, a caliphate, et cetera.

01:22:55.980 So when you ask, is the Trump administration engaging us, they haven't yet.

01:22:59.580 And we want them to use our Muslim reform movement document, which is a two page declaration that we stand against, uh, the, the core principles of an Islamic state. 0.86

01:23:09.220 And if, if Muslims believe in that, which is true for 70 to 80% that are coming here, then we should welcome them.

01:23:15.340 And actually what that'll do is Americans, when they see refugees coming that embrace those principles and they aren't doing acts of wanton crime on the streets as they are in Germany and Sweden and elsewhere, it'll make them more endeared to the cause.

01:23:29.660 So, and everyone wins if we start vetting against theocratic fascism.

01:23:35.940 Zutty, what should the president be doing now?

01:23:40.280 What should he, um, who should he be standing with?

01:23:46.460 Who should he be talking with?

01:23:49.100 Who, what should he be doing to control this message?

01:23:54.360 Well, you know, this is the issue is that he wrote an executive order, gave himself 120 days.

01:23:58.980 And, you know, we're, we're trying to make up for eight years of, of dysfunction and blindness, willful blindness in Washington.

01:24:09.540 So to make up for that, he, he talked about a commission on radical Islam.

01:24:13.140 I hope it's called a commission on radical Islamism, but he needs to convene that.

01:24:17.880 I think ideally it should be chaired by a Muslim.

01:24:20.100 We've got reformers that sign our declaration from, uh, that include, uh, uh, Shireen Qudosi, uh, Ezra Nomani, um, you know, Raheel Raza, uh, Majid Nawaz in Britain, uh, you know, a Danish parliamentarian.

01:24:35.400 There are many of us out there that can become resources for saying, you know, this isn't a war against Islam.

01:24:41.780 It's a battle within the house of Islam that we're going to take sides on and let's reinvigorate. 1.00

01:24:47.120 They called it in the last few decades, public diplomacy, but in the cold war, it was the U S information agency.

01:24:52.880 Let's start radio free, you know, uh, liberty in the middle East and start putting our so-called allies on notice that, you know what?

01:25:00.640 The gigs up, we realize that you might be with us on that last step to kill the terrorists, but you're certainly not with us on the previous hundred steps of radicalization, which is the ideology that makes them anti-Western, anti-Semitic, and really are fueling our own, our own demise.

01:25:16.120 How do you give, give somebody the argument they're going into the office today and they are, um, going to sit with some of their liberal friends who are going to start regurgitating everything that the media has said this weekend, help them win this argument.

01:25:36.640 Today's arguments.

01:25:38.320 The argument, let's, let's play, let's role play here.

01:25:41.900 I'm going to be the liberal friend and, and you play the Trump supporter or the conservative.

01:25:47.660 Okay.

01:25:48.560 And I say, um, Hey, good job this weekend.

01:25:52.720 Huh?

01:25:53.100 Your guy just, uh, made us look like the laughingstock of the world.

01:25:58.120 Everybody's against this.

01:25:59.460 This is an American, this, this Muslim ban. 0.78

01:26:04.380 How do you respond?

01:26:06.060 I would say you just don't get it.

01:26:08.020 The most American thing are found in others were Christians who love their faith, but faith, but yet push back against theocracy.

01:26:15.340 There's nothing more American than having a president that, uh, this is not a Muslim ban.

01:26:20.400 This is not preferential for Christians.

01:26:22.300 The word Muslim or Christians is not in it.

01:26:24.580 It talks about persecuted religious minorities, which would include Muslims within those countries that are dissidents, that are even within the majority Sundance that might be fighting against the government.

01:26:35.180 So there is nothing more American.

01:26:37.600 Yes.

01:26:38.080 My guy might be getting the messaging wrong.

01:26:40.140 I think he needs to, uh, be clear about that.

01:26:43.060 The implementation might've been wrong, but the bottom line is we finally have somebody in, in the white house who is not only on the side of the Islamists, but actually taking them on and saying that we need to be more discerning and not have this national fratricide where we allow anybody in just because they claim to be Muslim. 0.56

01:27:02.920 And by the way, your side is using this as a political football to basically identity politics when Islam is an idea, it's an ideology, it's not a race.

01:27:13.700 So stop racializing a global faith community that has a deep problem of jihadists.

01:27:19.220 Zutty, one last, um, um, one last question.

01:27:24.180 Um, do the, would the Sunnis, I think it's the Sunnis, no, the Shias in Syria, do you believe they would qualify as being a religious minority that is, that is, um, being picked on or threatened?

01:27:40.280 Uh, that's a great question.

01:27:44.060 You know, those who say that Assad and his, uh, partnership with Iran, he's a secularist is just absurd.

01:27:51.180 There are certainly Shia minorities that are persecuted by ISIS, um, and those would be persecuted minorities, uh, Alawite minorities that tried to take on the regime.

01:28:02.700 That is, Alawite is a faction of Shia Islam, uh, so those are persecuted, uh, but the bottom line is, is I'm of the belief that the Assad regime, through its, uh, cooperation with Hezbollah in Iran, are jihadists.

01:28:16.280 They're just Shia jihadists, and they're batting against, against Sunni jihadists. 0.86

01:28:20.500 So there are minority, persecuted minorities on both sides of the equation in Syria, and there's actually a third side, which is really those who are just trying to be free and, and stop the oppression, both from the Assad regime and from the ISIS militants.

01:28:34.780 Zutty, thank you very much.

01:28:35.900 I appreciate it.

01:28:36.700 And, uh, you can hear Reform This on Blaze, the Blaze Radio Network, Saturdays, uh, at noon.

01:28:41.760 You just also listen to the podcast at any time on demand.

01:28:44.520 Thank you, Zutty.

01:28:45.080 I appreciate it.

01:28:45.600 God bless.

01:28:46.960 You too.

01:28:47.500 Thank you so much, Bob.

01:28:48.300 I appreciate it.

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01:31:47.040 I say to Stu, so what's been on your mind on the news?

01:31:50.580 He said, well, I've got a good soda story.

01:31:52.200 Of course you do.

01:31:53.700 Well, it's the most important thing going on in the world right now.

01:31:55.700 And it's, again, you want to talk about bans?

01:31:59.020 Bans that are damaging to our world. 0.98

01:32:02.460 Completely unacceptable bans?

01:32:03.860 Yeah.

01:32:04.320 How about France?

01:32:05.380 France has banned unlimited soft drinks and refills.

01:32:11.340 Now, this is the sort of thing that concerns me and will actually affect my life.

01:32:15.620 It is now illegal to sell unlimited soft drinks at a fixed price or offer them unlimited for free in France.

01:32:21.940 The number of overweight or obese people in France is below the EU average but is on the rise.

01:32:28.120 The World Health Organization recommends taxing sugary drinks.

01:32:30.840 Oh, well, that's a good reason for it. 1.00

01:32:32.400 Linking them to obesity and diabetes, which is so stupid. 0.99

01:32:35.520 I mean, we've gone over these arguments before, but it's like it's not just drink. 0.99

01:32:39.340 Like, they just picture, they take one little category that they want to vilify.

01:32:44.900 It's the old Saul Alinsky thing.

01:32:47.060 They separate it and then they just vilify it.

01:32:49.200 They target it and they try to make it into a big thing.

01:32:51.560 For whatever reason, soda is the example here.

01:32:54.600 But this is another example of progressive governments around the world in this case,

01:32:58.820 but it's happened here many times, that decide they know what's better for you than you.

01:33:05.640 This is a customer benefit.

01:33:08.440 Remember, this is somewhat new in the United States.

01:33:11.340 I mean, you know, as a kid, I remember growing up, you had to pay every time you wanted another soda.

01:33:14.660 Now there is the availability to walk up to the little soda machine and fill it back up,

01:33:19.140 as I do every time I go wherever I go, and get extra sodas and enjoy them.

01:33:24.800 And they've taken something that a business has done to help their customer have a better experience.

01:33:30.560 And because they think the customer is using it incorrectly, their choice, the government's choice,

01:33:37.500 not the consumer's choice, they are taking it away.

01:33:40.280 In this case in France, but this will come here, obviously.

01:33:43.180 And it has come here in a form of taxes and other things.

01:33:45.700 And it's the same thing we talked about with net neutrality,

01:33:48.920 in that, like, net neutrality technically would ban what I think it's T-Mobile has done,

01:33:57.100 which is give you free streaming of Hulu and Netflix and Amazon Video and all these things,

01:34:02.580 a great benefit to the consumer.

01:34:05.900 However, net neutrality says, well, you're not treating all companies equally when it comes to data,

01:34:09.960 so you can't do that.

01:34:11.200 And the activists have fought to try to get that overturned so far unsuccessfully.

01:34:16.260 But, I mean, these are benefits.

01:34:17.240 These are making your life better.

01:34:18.900 You're getting more for your money, and yet government wants to come out and take these things away from you.

01:34:23.640 And while, yes, sure, all I care about is soda, it is a much larger problem than that,

01:34:29.620 and we see this in every aspect of our lives right now.

01:34:31.820 And already, tastes are changing.

01:34:34.660 The traditional soda is going the way of sarsaparilla, slowly.

01:34:41.320 Very slowly.

01:34:42.100 I mean, you're right.

01:34:44.000 This is what a lot of people are talking about in the beverage world, if I may.

01:34:47.720 Right.

01:34:48.200 However, it's a, you know, I think what you're doing is getting more choices that are basically just soda.

01:34:53.520 No, no, no, no, that's what I'm saying.

01:34:55.300 Yeah.

01:34:55.460 The traditional soda choice is going to little ponies, which I hate, and going to, and getting fragmented so much.

01:35:04.820 It's a thing of the past.

01:35:06.020 So, as they go after soda, well, what about all the other drinks that are coming out now?

01:35:10.900 I mean, you look at Coca-Cola.

01:35:12.440 Energy drinks, which are just soda with more caffeine in it.

01:35:16.180 Theoretically, what could, you know, they'd complain about even more than soda.

01:35:19.260 Yeah.

01:35:19.560 Burst your heart.

01:35:20.220 But they'll be like, oh, well, people are moving from soda to energy drinks.

01:35:22.780 What the hell do you think a monster is?

01:35:24.420 It's just a soda. 0.56

01:35:25.840 It's a soda with more caffeine in it than old-timey sodas.

01:35:29.660 That's not any, that's the same product.

01:35:31.380 They've done something, they've done something no man could, has ever done before.

01:35:34.380 Okay.

01:35:35.160 They have made some, they've made the worst tasting product into a successful product.

01:35:40.420 Well, I think you're more focusing on Red Bull with that analysis.

01:35:43.280 Yeah, because some of the other monsters are not bad.

01:35:45.100 Yeah, a lot of the monster energy drinks are good.

01:35:46.920 Are there any of them that are good?

01:35:49.340 I would say, yeah.

01:35:50.040 I mean, the monster, they have a monster absolute zero line, including the orange one, Sunrise,

01:35:55.100 which I absolutely adore.

01:35:56.400 That is really good.

01:35:57.400 There's a lemonade one.

01:35:58.600 The citrus one is really delicious.

01:36:01.060 I need to try one.

01:36:02.560 That whole line.

01:36:03.020 Because I had Red Bull.

01:36:04.760 Oh my gosh.

01:36:05.560 No, Red Bull is distinctly different than the monster zero line.

01:36:09.800 Yes, the monster zero line is delicious.

01:36:11.180 How was Red Bull ever successful?

01:36:14.140 I don't know.

01:36:14.860 My theory on this, because you're right, it tastes like, I don't know, antifreeze?

01:36:18.580 Oh yeah, it does.

01:36:19.560 It's like jet fuel or something.

01:36:21.080 And you can get to a point where you get used to it, but why would you need to?

01:36:24.280 There's no reason for that.

01:36:26.160 I honestly thought maybe they marketed it as I'm no evidence of that stuff.

01:36:30.000 They marketed it.

01:36:31.260 They actually intentionally made it taste bad, so you thought you were doing something

01:36:34.680 really like, wow, like, I am really down in some caffeine here.

01:36:39.380 Like, it's almost to stand out, they made it taste a little strange.

01:36:43.740 Like, because they just had a...

01:36:44.680 It'd be interesting to find out if that's what they did.

01:36:47.040 Because whatever they did, it worked.

01:36:48.260 Because there's no way.

01:36:49.020 I mean, you can make soap taste better than that.

01:36:51.200 Right, and now Red Bull has released several other flavors, and they're much better tasting,

01:36:57.800 though still not as good as, like, the Monsters or the Amps or the Venoms of the world.

01:37:02.620 I mean, we could talk to this all day.

01:37:04.000 Is that what you want?

01:37:05.260 No, really.

01:37:05.840 Because the Venoms, they're only 99 cents, which is really what gives you the big benefit

01:37:09.200 there.

01:37:09.720 I mean, they're very strong, though, if you don't like sweet flavors.

01:37:14.040 Because they taste a little bit...

01:37:14.740 They're almost Jolly Rancher-ish at times.

01:37:16.500 Oh my gosh.

01:37:17.000 So they're pretty strong, but if you can deal with that, cost-effective and delicious.

01:37:21.560 Oh, good thing that I can't get a refill, but on the way home, I can stop by at my 7-Eleven

01:37:27.400 and get a Monster.

01:37:29.080 Twice the caffeine, twice the sugar.

01:37:31.560 Oh, much more than twice the caffeine.

01:37:32.260 Twice everything that is bad for you.

01:37:36.220 Let's talk about Amp and Rockstar.

01:37:38.280 Now, the...

01:37:40.280 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:37:44.040 Mercury.

01:37:44.520 The Glenn Beck Program.

01:37:47.520 Differentiates from...

01:37:48.760 Rehab has the tea and lemonade flavors, so you're going to have a pink lemonade flavor.

01:37:51.940 But it's not actually trying to rehab off it.

01:37:53.900 No, you're not rehabbing off the energy drinks.

01:37:55.540 You want to drink more out of the energy drinks.

01:37:57.060 But I'm just saying, it's like maybe if you had a late night, maybe there's some other

01:37:59.340 alcoholic drinking, and you're going to come back with a Monster Rehab.

01:38:01.340 Would you have a late night?

01:38:02.000 I hate to.

01:38:02.840 This is a fascinating conversation.

01:38:04.660 It really is.

01:38:05.260 But I think about...

01:38:05.580 I can keep going if you...

01:38:06.360 I know.

01:38:06.900 But I think about eight minutes on it is enough.

01:38:09.500 Did you see what's on the Amazon bestseller list?

01:38:12.120 Yes, I think I did.

01:38:14.700 Yes.

01:38:14.920 How do you feel about that?

01:38:16.240 Can you give me the titles?

01:38:17.020 I can't remember the titles.

01:38:18.140 Yeah.

01:38:18.720 Sinclair Lewis, the novel, It Can Happen Here.

01:38:21.540 Yes.

01:38:22.120 Which is...

01:38:22.640 About the fascist takeover of the United States.

01:38:24.760 Right.

01:38:25.160 And 1984.

01:38:27.680 Yes.

01:38:28.280 About the fascist takeover.

01:38:30.320 Again, like, it's funny from the perspective of they were calling you a conspiracy theorist.

01:38:35.060 Wait, no kidding.

01:38:35.520 This entire time.

01:38:36.900 Right?

01:38:37.620 I do find that to be fascinating.

01:38:39.600 Right?

01:38:40.220 And the Sinclair Lewis book is a book about an election against FDR where some other senator

01:38:46.220 who winds up being a fascist takes control and does a lot of the things like immigration

01:38:50.860 controls and the type of things that, you know, Trump is either doing or being accused

01:38:55.400 of doing by the left.

01:38:57.320 And that's one of the reasons why it's risen up the charts so quickly.

01:39:02.560 Fahrenheit 451 is also on the charts, as is Animal Farm.

01:39:07.280 Wow.

01:39:08.080 But we were crazy to think that authoritarianism could happen through executive order.

01:39:13.820 We were crazy.

01:39:15.600 Oh, it drives me.

01:39:17.240 I can't watch television or listen to the news anymore.

01:39:20.760 I really can't.

01:39:21.820 I have to read it because I just get...

01:39:23.540 I lose my mind.

01:39:25.000 I hear them arguing on TV and I'm like, wait, wait.

01:39:28.900 Suddenly you're concerned about all of this stuff?

01:39:31.380 It drives me out of my mind.

01:39:33.480 I can't take it.

01:39:34.200 However, we are seeing some movement.

01:39:37.240 We heard a tweet from Donald Trump this morning saying that we will find out who the Supreme

01:39:41.800 Court justice is, at least who he's nominating, tomorrow at 8 p.m.

01:39:46.960 Eastern time.

01:39:47.860 We think from the White House he's going to make the announcement.

01:39:50.300 Get the work on who we have and who we think it's going to get.

01:39:54.740 Give me the top picks here in a second.

01:39:56.500 As he's looking for that, let me just say this, and this didn't bother me at all.

01:40:01.840 No, it didn't.

01:40:03.180 I couldn't even read the story.

01:40:05.160 The headline, travel ban is the clearest sign yet of Trump advisors' intent to reshape

01:40:12.060 the country.

01:40:13.440 Oh, my God.

01:40:14.000 Oh, my God.

01:40:14.540 You mean like when he said fundamental transformation of the United States of America, and then he

01:40:20.600 was surrounded by a bunch of radicals who were hell-bent on reshaping the country and

01:40:27.560 the Constitution?

01:40:28.480 You mean you're concerned about something like that happening?

01:40:32.220 No, that's a conspiracy theory.

01:40:34.700 Oh! 0.60

01:40:36.640 Okay, I'm over it.

01:40:37.980 You have the Supreme Court justices.

01:40:39.820 There's a couple here to talk about.

01:40:41.080 We talked about Pryor.

01:40:42.520 Right.

01:40:42.680 A decent amount.

01:40:43.420 Now, Pryor is a pretty conservative judge generally.

01:40:45.740 I know you had some people who were doing the background checking and were concerned

01:40:49.540 about a couple of different areas with religious freedoms.

01:40:54.000 And so that's one that has been talked about a lot.

01:40:57.840 And he is a concern to the evangelical pack.

01:41:02.520 Pryor is.

01:41:03.260 And also, what's the other one?

01:41:05.060 Neil Gorsuch.

01:41:06.520 Gorsuch.

01:41:07.100 Now, Gorsuch, in reading about him fairly extensively, I think he's seen a lot of

01:41:12.660 seems like a pretty good choice.

01:41:14.360 Now, there are some people who have some concerns over him.

01:41:17.520 Yeah, the religious community has a problem with Gorsuch and Pryor.

01:41:22.740 The leaders of the evangelical community say that's a problem.

01:41:28.320 Those two are no-goes.

01:41:29.900 Now, neither one of them, though, is exclusively bad for those cases.

01:41:33.420 For example, Neil Gorsuch agreed with the correct side, in my opinion, of the Hobby Lobby case.

01:41:40.120 The Little Sisters of the Poor, wasn't it?

01:41:43.060 Little Sisters.

01:41:43.480 Yep, yep, yep.

01:41:44.300 That one as well, which is another Obamacare-related case he was correct on.

01:41:48.880 You know, he's had several pretty good rulings when it comes to religious freedom.

01:41:54.140 Yeah, he is apparently sketchy on transgenderism, the bathrooms, and things like that.

01:42:04.080 But, and the latest to come out was that last week he goes to one of these very progressive churches,

01:42:10.940 and his female pastor was at the Women's March, and she said, you know,

01:42:19.380 it was the first time that she really felt really connected to humanity.

01:42:24.100 Was that that?

01:42:25.100 It was that that march?

01:42:26.140 Neil's like, stop, stop talking, please, for a couple of weeks.

01:42:29.780 But that's just guilt by association.

01:42:31.460 That means nothing.

01:42:32.080 Right, it may mean something, but it may not.

01:42:34.440 I mean, he's several, you know, who ruled, you know, on the public displays of religion.

01:42:39.780 He's ruled on the correct side of that several times.

01:42:42.380 He's pretty good on things like the Second Amendment.

01:42:47.940 He's very good on the Commerce Clause.

01:42:50.140 Reading his stuff on the Commerce Clause was interesting and, you know, positive.

01:42:55.860 Seems to be on the right side of that as well.

01:42:58.200 And this is where we got this, I love this thing, where it was the Dormant Commerce Clause.

01:43:04.480 Remember this?

01:43:05.100 We talked about this earlier.

01:43:06.300 The Dormant Commerce Clause isn't a particularly hot-button issue, nor does it have an obvious liberal conservative fault line.

01:43:10.780 But it's noteworthy that criticism of the Dormant Commerce Clause is a piece with a criticism of the right to privacy that undergirds the Supreme Court's abortion jurisprudence,

01:43:20.520 as well as the other judge-made doctrines, that do not have a strong connection to the constitutional text.

01:43:27.520 What do you mean they don't have a strong connection to it?

01:43:30.200 They don't have any.

01:43:30.880 If they're either in there or they're not in there, Gorsuch's opinion seemed to follow the lead of people like Scalia in expressing great skepticism towards doctrines,

01:43:40.660 which allow judges to strike down duly enacted local laws on the basis of vague principles that cannot be found in the concrete text of the Constitution. 0.94

01:43:50.040 That's just making crap up. 0.97

01:43:52.040 If there's no words in there that support what you're saying, you're just making crap up. 0.99

01:43:56.780 Judicial activism. 0.80

01:43:57.940 How is there another argument to that?

01:44:00.740 You have a Constitution.

01:44:01.820 It has words in there.

01:44:02.960 You can read the words in the Constitution multiple ways, potentially.

01:44:07.500 However, if the words aren't in there, you can't put them in there unless you amend the Constitution.

01:44:13.080 There shouldn't be another side to that argument.

01:44:15.340 But Gorsuch seems to be on the right side of that.

01:44:18.440 One that is kind of interesting from the list of 20, and we don't know for sure he's going to pick from that 20.

01:44:25.880 I would be very surprised if his first pick is not from that 20.

01:44:30.300 It's one of those things that he might pick one of them, try to push him through.

01:44:32.780 If it doesn't work, he might go outside the 20.

01:44:34.940 We could totally see that happening.

01:44:35.880 But I would assume his first pick is going to come from that 20.

01:44:38.240 There's another Justice, Thomas Hardiman, who's interesting for a couple reasons, at least.

01:44:45.340 He's 51 years old.

01:44:47.400 He is seen as similar to Justice Alito.

01:44:51.960 And he's been very good on the Second Amendment.

01:44:53.920 He's got some really good rulings.

01:44:55.480 There's some areas of concern.

01:44:56.880 However, just speaking as Donald Trump, the way Donald Trump tends to think in these situations, he's worked closely with his sister.

01:45:06.600 He has a good, close relationship with his sister.

01:45:08.920 Sis, who do you trust on this list?

01:45:10.360 Right.

01:45:10.700 And this is the way he usually handles the people he's done business with before.

01:45:13.800 You know what?

01:45:14.060 I trust you.

01:45:15.020 You know, I've seen you're good in these situations.

01:45:17.540 Now, he had mentioned his sister initially as the choice.

01:45:20.280 No one expects that to happen.

01:45:22.540 However, if his sister has good experience with the justice and Hardiman has sided with her on several important cases, including some cases related to the Second Amendment,

01:45:36.620 it's interesting to see if he would go that way and sort of trust his sister's judgment, assuming they do have this good relationship that has been reported.

01:45:45.520 We don't know for sure.

01:45:47.660 One scary thing, and I think this will scare most people in the audience, the write-up on his abortion positions was he has not weighed in directly on issues of abortion.

01:45:58.560 That's the kiss of death.

01:45:59.800 Now, again, we've seen this from several Republican presidents where they find people who have not taken views on the most controversial issues, but they're conservative, trust me.

01:46:09.180 And then you push them through and they find out, wow, they're not conservative at all, particularly on those issues.

01:46:14.860 So that is one that I think is concerning that he hasn't done that.

01:46:19.860 But, I mean, you have to put him up near the top of the list because of that personal connection, I think.

01:46:25.040 So we could see that happening as well.

01:46:26.900 I mean, we have only one more day to wait, which is kind of interesting.

01:46:29.260 He's moving quickly on this, which is at least we're going to find out, and then we can fight it out from there.

01:46:34.380 Yeah, I mean, I think he's moving quickly on a lot.

01:46:38.980 Yeah.

01:46:39.700 I mean, he's moving quickly on these executive orders, at least.

01:46:43.780 That's him, though, right?

01:46:44.600 I mean, I saw a headline, Mr. President slowed down, and his response to that would be, no, keep up.

01:46:51.680 You're all low energy.

01:46:52.860 I'm high energy.

01:46:53.560 Let's go.

01:46:53.940 Yeah, I mean, I've seen criticisms of this sort of first hundred days idea, where you're supposed to come out and do all these big things in the first hundred days.

01:47:00.340 And I think it's to reward the campaign, and I promised you I was going to do these things.

01:47:04.240 You know, of course, our system is specifically.

01:47:05.620 And you're in a honeymoon period.

01:47:06.520 Right.

01:47:06.940 Yes, that's true, too.

01:47:08.300 Our system is specifically designed to not encourage quick progress and change in our government.

01:47:14.280 That's why there are checks and balances.

01:47:15.540 It's supposed to slow the process down.

01:47:17.220 When everyone complains about we don't get enough done, that's probably better for you, because most of the time the stuff they get done screws you up in other ways.

01:47:23.720 Now, some of the stuff I obviously agree with, you know, some of the stuff Donald Trump is doing, you know, he hasn't really, you know, we haven't gone deep into the legislative well yet.

01:47:31.200 You know, I think there are executive orders that you can reverse.

01:47:33.440 One of the ones we were promised on day one, I believe, was a reversal of the DACA immigration proposal from proposal edict by Barack Obama.

01:47:44.640 And for some reason, we're not getting that one, which was probably the one most talked about in this context.

01:47:50.060 Trump's administration has said we're going to try to work through that one legislatively and get a long term solution to it.

01:47:55.820 Hopefully that that does occur, although the long term solution usually is part of comprehensive immigration reform.

01:48:02.340 So I'm a tad nervous about that.

01:48:04.380 This is an executive order that that that, you know, Obama did could be easily reversed by executive order.

01:48:11.280 It is not one that even people like us who don't like executive orders, generally speaking, are going to have a problem with because you're just undoing previous damage.

01:48:19.880 Right. You're undoing an executive order.

01:48:22.220 And that, to me, is a much, much more justifiable use of that than than just kind of coming up with something new off the top of your head, which is what Obama was doing.

01:48:30.120 Yeah, I don't like this. I don't like these executive orders at all.

01:48:33.880 I want him to I want them to repeal the Obama executive orders and any other order from any other president, including Reagan, that is just not constitutional.

01:48:43.160 Repeal them. Repeal them.

01:48:45.300 Yeah, because some of it is just can be rulemaking. That isn't a big deal.

01:48:47.760 But when you're making major policy changes with executive order, it's wrong.

01:48:51.500 Let me give you this one. This is from Hot Air.

01:48:53.420 President Trump's latest executive order is as good as executive orders come.

01:48:57.440 Here's some of the details.

01:48:58.220 If you are an employee or employment employee of the government, once you leave your your post employment restrictions on communicating with employees of your former executive agency.

01:49:09.680 So if you're in the EPA, you leave the EPA, you can't go contact your people who used to work with and influence them to try to move them towards some company you now work for.

01:49:19.120 Right. Makes sense. Upon leaving government service, you won't engage in lobbying activities with respect to any covered executive branch for the remainder of the administration.

01:49:27.060 So you're not going to you're not going to do that, at least until the next president comes in.

01:49:30.680 You will not, after the termination of your employment, the United States government, engage in any activity on behalf of any foreign government.

01:49:37.800 We all agree with that. You will not accept gifts from registered lobbyists.

01:49:41.960 Certainly agree with that. Here's the breakdown from Hot Air.

01:49:44.400 There's still a massive problem. Trump is doing this action through executive order instead of letting it go through the legislative process.

01:49:49.420 Why? Why? Why is this not being right? There's no problem with all of these things would be popular.

01:49:53.840 Why wouldn't you just go through the legislative process?

01:49:55.840 The Constitution is quite clear on which branch originally comes up with the rules from Article one, Section eight, subsection 14.

01:50:01.900 The Congress shall have the power to make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces.

01:50:06.860 Trump is acting as CEO of the government, which you've brought up several times.

01:50:10.080 Glenn, he is not CEO of the government.

01:50:11.800 He is used to doing things his way without having others to sign off on his actions.

01:50:16.640 He's taking another page from Barack Obama's playbook, but he's promising to do it right.

01:50:21.080 And he said, this is a quote from a few months ago with Trump.

01:50:24.820 I mean, Obama led the way, to be honest with you.

01:50:27.260 I'm going to use them much better and they're going to serve a much better purpose than he's done.

01:50:31.780 Well, who decides what is good and what is bad?

01:50:34.080 Is it the person in power?

01:50:35.180 And I think the answer to that is yes, in this particular case.

01:50:38.500 And I don't I'm not comfortable with that standard.

01:50:40.400 You know, we have a constitution set up to avoid that standard specifically.

01:50:46.120 That's why we're so battled.

01:50:47.580 We're so battle hardened now because it's about personalities, because it's your guy or my guy and your guy is going to destroy us.

01:50:54.820 My guy is going to save us or vice versa.

01:50:57.560 And so we're at each other's throat because there's so much power being wielded by that one politician.

01:51:06.220 And that's a huge mistake.

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01:52:26.480 Let me go to Jenny in Texas. 0.63

01:52:28.400 You're in Victoria, Texas, where there was a mosque burned down.

01:52:32.240 Yes.

01:52:32.700 Yeah, on Saturday.

01:52:34.460 Yes, ma'am.

01:52:35.040 Oh, sir.

01:52:37.640 Tell me about it, Jenny.

01:52:39.760 I'm sorry?

01:52:40.560 Hello?

01:52:41.040 Yes, you're on.

01:52:42.100 Tell me about the...

01:52:42.820 Okay.

01:52:43.180 No, no, that's okay.

01:52:45.460 Okay, yeah, we had a mosque that burned down overnight Saturday, and we got up Saturday

01:52:51.560 morning, so I found out about it.

01:52:53.640 But if you Google it, all over the world, it's either Trump's fault for hours after signing

01:53:00.100 the Muslim ban, or, you know, we're in South Texas, and we're all hicks and rednecks, and 0.99

01:53:09.660 you know, Trump's brought out the crazy people. 0.99

01:53:12.320 Nobody's waiting for the actual investigation yet. 0.66

01:53:15.960 It was actually pretty, you know, cold in South Texas.

01:53:19.380 I'm sorry to hear that, Jenny.

01:53:23.300 We'll look for the cause and make sure we report it, at least.

01:53:29.280 Thanks.

01:53:29.720 Austin, Pennsylvania.

01:53:31.060 Quickly, you're on the Glenn Beck program.

01:53:32.520 Hi, Glenn.

01:53:34.080 I think the reason why you'd probably never get a lobbying ban or term limits through Congress

01:53:38.900 is because you have a lot of Republicans that are just as invested in corruption.

01:53:43.260 So I think doing it by executive order, I don't like executive orders, but I think doing

01:53:48.120 it by executive order does put leverage against his own party.

01:53:52.880 You know, so if they reject it, or if they fail now to codify it, it brings a lot more

01:53:56.720 attention to it, and it makes them look pretty bad.

01:53:59.840 But you can't do it that way.

01:54:01.080 Like, it also creates a dictator.

01:54:03.000 I am the most pro-term limit person in America, probably.

01:54:06.780 But I mean, if he does that through executive order, there's no way that's constitutional.

01:54:11.320 You're right.

01:54:11.940 It's difficult to do.

01:54:13.540 You're right.

01:54:14.700 But it is.

01:54:15.320 But for a reason.

01:54:17.040 These are checks and balances, and you have to go through that process.

01:54:19.960 You need to amend the Constitution to get these things done.

01:54:23.020 We just have to stand on the principle of the Constitution, or it will be lost.

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 30, 2017

'It's Not a Muslim Ban' 1⧸30⧸17

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