If you were traveling by air over the weekend, you had a delightful, delightful weekend. I don t know why protesters have to make everybody else s life miserable. If you've made my travel weekend even more of a hassle than the airline can handle, I don't necessarily come to your side. I want to talk about the ban, what's being called a Muslim ban, and why it's not.
00:03:54.080Yeah, they had quotes from some of the people who were doing this, you know, going through the agencies that were basically being told about the executive order in the meetings and then looked up at the screen and saw Donald Trump signing it.
00:04:09.500Like they were being informed that this was going to happen while he was on television signing it.
00:04:15.620And it's like, well, you want to prepare.
00:04:17.240This is one of those things that you would typically prepare people for maybe weeks, at least, if not longer, because it's a major change and that you're looking for different people.
00:04:25.900You've changed the screening process, which the executive branch has pretty broad authority when it comes to immigration on these things.
00:04:32.460But, you know, you want to make sure that it runs as smoothly as possible.
00:04:35.860You don't want to give your enemies something to chew on.
00:04:38.980You don't want to give your enemies video of little kids stranded at the airport in limbo.
00:04:44.520If there's a lot to go through on the actual meat of this.
00:04:48.160But from a complaint perspective, if you're someone who voted for Donald Trump and thinks these priorities are important, if you're a conservative who's concerned about terrorism, what you don't like about this, number one, is it's just a gift to the media the way they did it.
00:05:02.560They were able to give a complete gift with not only a gift as far as just the way you talk about it, but then visuals.
00:05:10.480You're saying like, hey, here's the location of every one of the 100 and some odd people that are going to be detained because every single time they're going to be around a central area at a major airport.
00:05:21.400And it was just a gift visually to the media, which you don't want to do.
00:05:27.080So there's a level of incompetence in the way it was handled that I think conservatives, Trump supporters, can absolutely complain about.
00:05:37.880So that is something to get out of the way right away.
00:06:17.740Now, me personally, I would ban everyone for 60 days.
00:06:24.120There's no, nobody coming from these war-torn countries as refugees for another 60 days.
00:06:31.360Until we can implement some sort of vetting process that we believe.
00:06:37.240But what they've said is, for 60 or 90 days, you're not going to be able to take anyone but religious minorities and, in some case-by-case basis, those who helped us fight the war.
00:06:54.260And it sort of does that with refugees, as we go through the details.
00:06:58.640It does some of that more broadly, and then specifically from people from those countries.
00:07:04.580So refugees are, for 120 days, I think, is the ban on that.
00:07:48.600And on your point, a lot of people are saying, well, this isn't effective because it doesn't ban Saudi Arabia, for example, who was involved in the actual, you know, people, their residents were involved in 9-11, right?
00:08:00.800It's just as ineffective as a Muslim ban.
00:08:03.820If you think it's a Muslim ban, they missed the top 10 Muslim populations in the world.
00:08:09.480The top 10 Muslim populations in the world are all not on the ban.
00:08:15.840Again, so if you're trying to ban Muslims, you want to include Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Egypt, Iran is on there, Turkey, Algeria, and Morocco.
00:08:30.320So it's just like, it's obviously not a Muslim ban, you know, despite the fact that, you know, Michael Flynn's son was tweeting about it being a Muslim ban.
00:08:42.900Well, I mean, again, the Giuliani thing is problematic in that, and this is another part you want to go to incompetence, the Giuliani story, in case you don't know it, is Trump went to Giuliani, according to Giuliani, and said, I want to do a Muslim ban.
00:09:00.000Now, he said, Giuliani said this and recounted this conversation on national television.
00:09:05.080So, then they went into, well, you don't focus on religion, you focus on danger, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:09:11.420Look, we were, and I maintain a belief that it is absolutely unconstitutional and wrong to ban a religion from the United States of America when it comes to immigrants.
00:09:23.080I think that's, his, Trump's initial proposal was completely wrong, and I think horrible.
00:09:29.260And all the complaints that you see today from the media would be justified if he implemented that policy.
00:09:34.280He did not implement anything close to that policy.
00:09:37.100It's not even remotely close to that policy.
00:09:40.400They're just all reacting as if it's the same thing.
00:09:53.380What they're doing is, we listened to Barack Obama, and we took him literally when he said, look, I'm for a single-payer health care system, and eventually this will collapse the free market system, and we'll go into a single-payer health care system.
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00:21:37.500And there is both good and bad in this.
00:21:42.080If you want to look at it through the lens of reason.
00:21:46.480If you want to take it for what it says, it's reasonable to do.
00:21:51.980Now, if you want to play it out and say this is the first step in a Muslim ban, which you wouldn't have allowed me to do with Barack Obama.
00:22:50.200With the marches, before anyone has any facts, these marches are the Nobel Prize going to Barack Obama times 10.
00:23:00.500People are already marching before the average American has even heard that there has been a new executive order.
00:23:09.620And all of a sudden, everybody's up in arms.
00:23:11.460If the left gets their way on this and they obstruct this, I'm telling you, the first time that an immigrant does anything or a refugee does anything wrong, this administration will go 10 times as hard.
00:23:31.020And the American people will be right there with them.
00:24:00.060However, the executive order specifically deals with that, saying secretary of state and homeland security may on a case by case basis and when in the national interest issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.
00:24:41.660Again, it was a small number of people, but it was an easy media story and a gift to the media, which, again, is, you know, supposed to be.
00:24:49.100You know, Trump has it's one of the strong suits.
00:24:50.800Right. As far as handling the media and this, they seem to fall down on it.
00:24:54.460There's another part of it where they may have extended this to people who actually had green green cards, meaning permanent residents of the United States that also had, you know, issues here.
00:25:05.980They initially did that. The reporting was that people like Steve Bannon overruled other people in the administration and were working on this to try to make it apply to green card holders.
00:25:16.860It does seem like the administration is backing off of that now.
00:25:20.060So it does not seem like that's a big part of it.
00:25:23.400Next up, the indefinite hold on admission to Syrian refugees to the United States.
00:25:35.860A lot of people would understand this.
00:25:37.240It is a return, according to the National Review, to the Obama administration's practices from 2011 to 2014.
00:25:45.080For all the Democrats and wailing and gnashing of teeth, until 2016, the Obama administration had largely already slammed the door on Syrian refugee admissions.
00:25:53.280The Syrian civil war touched off in 2011.
00:25:56.180In 2011, we admitted 29 Syrian refugees.
00:26:16.120So there was a large increase, but very consistent with the early years of the Syrian civil war.
00:26:22.880When that was going on, the Obama administration let in less than a trickle of refugees.
00:26:27.060Only in the closing days of his administration did Obama reverse course, and now we're supposed to be all upset that Trump is returning to what Obama did at the beginning.
00:26:40.240There's a puzzling amount of outrage over Trump's directive to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion to the individual's country of nationality.
00:26:53.760So we see what this is, and you can see how, if you're not following this closely, you'd say, well, wait a minute, he's gone to seven countries, the majority religion there is Muslim, and he said only minority religions can come in.
00:28:15.500But it's hard to tell which ones are part of this plan to infiltrate and which are just good Muslims.
00:28:26.360That's why we need the help of the Muslim community, but not people like CARE.
00:28:31.120Remember, people like Judy Zasser's organization, where we can have Muslims sit down with Muslims and say, okay, how do we figure this out?
00:29:29.240Now, 10% of Syria is Christian, and only 0.5% of the refugees we let in were Christian.
00:29:35.400So that is actually, it is the reverse of what Obama did there.
00:29:38.840He was letting in almost only religious majorities where this particular thing says, hey, this executive order says we need religious minorities.
00:29:49.280And we want to point out that there hasn't been any refugee that has caused a problem here in the United States.
00:29:56.900But there have been refugees that have caused problems over in Europe.
00:30:01.220Some of the parachutings were refugees.
00:30:04.860And there were terrorist attacks by Cuban refugees before 1980.
00:44:43.460That's why things will get worse because the people who voted for Donald Trump just wanted the craziness to stop.
00:44:56.940And if you can't, and you're on the left, you can't understand why people would say it's craziness.
00:45:01.700When you're asking people to deny sexual orientation, that their parts are meaningless, that there is no such thing as a male and a female anymore.
00:45:16.720And you've done it, if I would have said in 1995 or in 1996, that by 2016, 20 years down the road, everybody will be fine with gay marriage, will have gay marriage as part of the law.
00:45:36.360And conservatives will be cool with calling a sports hero, Bruce Jenner, by a female name because he'll just come out and say, even though I haven't touched my body parts, I am a woman.
00:45:52.300If I would have said we would have been okay with that in 1995, you would have deemed me out of my mind.
00:45:57.580If I would have said it in 2000, you would have deemed me out of my mind.
00:46:01.100I contend when Barack Obama was against gay marriage in 2008, and so was Hillary Clinton, if I said we would have that by 2016, you would say I was out of my mind.
00:46:13.080In eight years, we went from a country that was against gay marriage to a country that says, Caitlyn Jenner.
00:46:21.780You pushed us to the wall and said, oh, now, by the way, you have to deny all sexuality, that there is no such thing as gender, period.
00:49:39.240When we warned that those people on the border are being moved by the federal government into our cities without telling our cities and the public where they're going, you're just dropping them into our cities, you yawned.
00:49:54.140When I pointed out that there is really bad stuff going on in these camps where they're keeping these immigrants, these illegals, where they are breaking up families, and it is horrific conditions, you yawned again.
00:50:38.420When the Tea Party met, and we didn't have websites like the Women's March does, we didn't have labor unions providing buses, it really was, mom and dad around the kitchen table, you first said that we were astroturf, that we were nothing but rubes being used by the politicians.
00:50:59.480Then, when that didn't work, you started accusing us of being terrorists, that we wanted to blow up the government.
00:51:09.280When Madonna said that, you excused it.
00:51:12.280When we didn't say it, you said we felt it in our hearts.
00:51:19.440Time left us out of the year in review in 2010.
00:51:24.920Was there a bigger story in 2010 than the Tea Party movement that led to a historic change of power?
00:51:32.820They left the Tea Party out of their year in review.
00:51:36.260I can guarantee you it's only a matter of time before this is deemed the year of the protester.
00:51:45.020If I see one more person say that Donald Trump is an authoritarian, or this is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany, or that he's a racist,
00:51:59.500when I pointed these things out, I was pointing them out about the authoritarian nature of the silencing of the press, which Barack Obama did,
00:52:13.440and every member of the press knows that, the use of executive order and strong-arm tactics.
00:52:24.680His hanging out with authoritarian leaders.
00:54:02.680We have to pay for the sins of the past.
00:54:07.040And the sins of the past started long ago, before Barack Obama and before Donald Trump.
00:54:12.120And the sins of the past are things like loaning Puerto Rico a crap load of money, giving them money, buying their bonds so they can stay open.
00:54:24.220And yet, for the last few months, they haven't been paying back their bonds.
01:16:47.480He is one of the most outspoken voices inside Islam of saying the United States government is playing footsie with all of the wrong people.
01:16:57.800He is a reformer and Islam as it is known in much of the Middle East needs to be reformed.
01:17:07.800It's why so many people come here and they are petrified of the people that we are allowing in.
01:17:14.340I wanted to talk to him about the so-called Muslim ban and get his take on what Donald Trump did over the weekend.
01:18:03.720And, you know, thank you for letting me work on reforming this.
01:18:08.400I will tell you, Zutty, you are, you're a hero to me because we all know what happens to those who speak out about against radical Islam, especially if you're in Islam and you are a proud Muslim.
01:18:22.000Uh, and, um, you have been warning that the United States is in with the wrong guys for a very long time.
01:18:50.100Uh, so I look forward to, uh, helping them navigate these waters.
01:18:54.340And as we saw in the last few days, uh, uh, they got to get ahead of the messaging game because, uh, they, the left will use identity politics and exploit us Muslims whenever possible for their, their own benefit.
01:19:17.260Uh, they're pausing from seven countries that Obama had already listed as a hotspot.
01:19:22.560I would have added, if you're going to start, I would have added Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Pakistan, at least, since those are probably the primary cauldrons of, uh, of radical Islamism.
01:19:33.280But, you know, having said that, the bottom line is, is that, uh, it's, it's important to realize it's a pause.
01:19:38.880It's not a ban, uh, that America was founded in a battle against theocracy.
01:19:43.020And to say that currently folks coming in had been vetted is absurd.
01:19:47.040The vetting that the Obama administration used was a anti-terrorism, anti-violent extremism vetting, which included no ideology.
01:19:54.760And I actually debated last night on Fox, the, uh, uh, head of the International, uh, Rescue Commission.
01:20:01.160And he couldn't come up with one evidence that they're vetting against jihadism or Islamism.
01:20:06.360So the pause is necessary, but the implementation has certainly been haphazard the last few days.
01:20:12.820And if you get this wrong and we lose the messaging, you know, America should never lose its beacon on a hill as being that, that place where people come for refuge, for, for freedom and liberty.
01:20:26.100And it's very pro-Muslim, pro-modern Islam to say that we don't want theocrats here.
01:20:31.240And, you know, for, for, for people like Senator Schumer to say that, to, to shed false tears and say that somehow this is going to feed into the anti-American narrative is absurd when Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia have accepted zero, zero refugees in.
01:20:48.160So to say that it's anti-Muslim to just put a pause on a very anemic program anyway from the Obama administration is absurd.
01:20:55.320Sudi, why doesn't, why doesn't Saudi Arabia take any Muslim refugees?
01:21:04.220Two things that should be clear to Americans, which is number one, is they are anti-Islamists as far as the grassroots viral movement.
01:21:15.980They claim to be against the brotherhood and they realize the, the, the ideology that they're spreading and how it'll bite them in the rear end.
01:21:23.260So while they're with us, they're the firefighters, they're also the arsonists.
01:21:30.860They don't want to go to places as bad or worse than what they're fighting for freedom in Syria for.
01:21:36.180So there's two things there that make it pretty much a mutual hate between those, the majority of refugees who, who really want to be free and away from the, the dual genocide happening from ISIS and from the Assad and Iranian regime.
01:21:51.100Okay. So I know this would be, you know, a pure guess, but you know, we, we let 15,000 or a hundred and let's just say a round number.
01:22:02.000We let a hundred thousand people in, um, and they're Muslim refugees from that part of the world.
01:22:09.820Any idea how many, what percentage have been radicalized?
01:22:19.300Well, this is, this is the key question.
01:22:21.600And this is what we've been screaming from the rooftops for the last eight years, actually, you know, five years, obviously since the revolution.
01:22:28.000Uh, but studies have shown in Europe, 20 to 25% of refugees have sympathies for ISIS sympathies.
01:22:37.700Now they're not radical as far as how do you define radical?
01:22:40.720Are they militant who are trying to commit acts of violence?
01:22:43.940No, they'll pass the muster for, do they belong to ISIS?
01:22:47.280No, but just as in the cold war, these are ISIS sympathizers.
01:22:52.480They believe in Islamic state, a caliphate, et cetera.
01:22:55.980So when you ask, is the Trump administration engaging us, they haven't yet.
01:22:59.580And we want them to use our Muslim reform movement document, which is a two page declaration that we stand against, uh, the, the core principles of an Islamic state.
01:23:09.220And if, if Muslims believe in that, which is true for 70 to 80% that are coming here, then we should welcome them.
01:23:15.340And actually what that'll do is Americans, when they see refugees coming that embrace those principles and they aren't doing acts of wanton crime on the streets as they are in Germany and Sweden and elsewhere, it'll make them more endeared to the cause.
01:23:29.660So, and everyone wins if we start vetting against theocratic fascism.
01:23:35.940Zutty, what should the president be doing now?
01:23:40.280What should he, um, who should he be standing with?
01:23:49.100Who, what should he be doing to control this message?
01:23:54.360Well, you know, this is the issue is that he wrote an executive order, gave himself 120 days.
01:23:58.980And, you know, we're, we're trying to make up for eight years of, of dysfunction and blindness, willful blindness in Washington.
01:24:09.540So to make up for that, he, he talked about a commission on radical Islam.
01:24:13.140I hope it's called a commission on radical Islamism, but he needs to convene that.
01:24:17.880I think ideally it should be chaired by a Muslim.
01:24:20.100We've got reformers that sign our declaration from, uh, that include, uh, uh, Shireen Qudosi, uh, Ezra Nomani, um, you know, Raheel Raza, uh, Majid Nawaz in Britain, uh, you know, a Danish parliamentarian.
01:24:35.400There are many of us out there that can become resources for saying, you know, this isn't a war against Islam.
01:24:41.780It's a battle within the house of Islam that we're going to take sides on and let's reinvigorate.
01:24:47.120They called it in the last few decades, public diplomacy, but in the cold war, it was the U S information agency.
01:24:52.880Let's start radio free, you know, uh, liberty in the middle East and start putting our so-called allies on notice that, you know what?
01:25:00.640The gigs up, we realize that you might be with us on that last step to kill the terrorists, but you're certainly not with us on the previous hundred steps of radicalization, which is the ideology that makes them anti-Western, anti-Semitic, and really are fueling our own, our own demise.
01:25:16.120How do you give, give somebody the argument they're going into the office today and they are, um, going to sit with some of their liberal friends who are going to start regurgitating everything that the media has said this weekend, help them win this argument.
01:26:08.020The most American thing are found in others were Christians who love their faith, but faith, but yet push back against theocracy.
01:26:15.340There's nothing more American than having a president that, uh, this is not a Muslim ban.
01:26:20.400This is not preferential for Christians.
01:26:22.300The word Muslim or Christians is not in it.
01:26:24.580It talks about persecuted religious minorities, which would include Muslims within those countries that are dissidents, that are even within the majority Sundance that might be fighting against the government.
01:26:38.080My guy might be getting the messaging wrong.
01:26:40.140I think he needs to, uh, be clear about that.
01:26:43.060The implementation might've been wrong, but the bottom line is we finally have somebody in, in the white house who is not only on the side of the Islamists, but actually taking them on and saying that we need to be more discerning and not have this national fratricide where we allow anybody in just because they claim to be Muslim.
01:27:02.920And by the way, your side is using this as a political football to basically identity politics when Islam is an idea, it's an ideology, it's not a race.
01:27:13.700So stop racializing a global faith community that has a deep problem of jihadists.
01:27:19.220Zutty, one last, um, um, one last question.
01:27:24.180Um, do the, would the Sunnis, I think it's the Sunnis, no, the Shias in Syria, do you believe they would qualify as being a religious minority that is, that is, um, being picked on or threatened?
01:27:44.060You know, those who say that Assad and his, uh, partnership with Iran, he's a secularist is just absurd.
01:27:51.180There are certainly Shia minorities that are persecuted by ISIS, um, and those would be persecuted minorities, uh, Alawite minorities that tried to take on the regime.
01:28:02.700That is, Alawite is a faction of Shia Islam, uh, so those are persecuted, uh, but the bottom line is, is I'm of the belief that the Assad regime, through its, uh, cooperation with Hezbollah in Iran, are jihadists.
01:28:16.280They're just Shia jihadists, and they're batting against, against Sunni jihadists.
01:28:20.500So there are minority, persecuted minorities on both sides of the equation in Syria, and there's actually a third side, which is really those who are just trying to be free and, and stop the oppression, both from the Assad regime and from the ISIS militants.
01:43:06.300The Dormant Commerce Clause isn't a particularly hot-button issue, nor does it have an obvious liberal conservative fault line.
01:43:10.780But it's noteworthy that criticism of the Dormant Commerce Clause is a piece with a criticism of the right to privacy that undergirds the Supreme Court's abortion jurisprudence,
01:43:20.520as well as the other judge-made doctrines, that do not have a strong connection to the constitutional text.
01:43:27.520What do you mean they don't have a strong connection to it?
01:43:30.880If they're either in there or they're not in there, Gorsuch's opinion seemed to follow the lead of people like Scalia in expressing great skepticism towards doctrines,
01:43:40.660which allow judges to strike down duly enacted local laws on the basis of vague principles that cannot be found in the concrete text of the Constitution.
01:45:22.540However, if his sister has good experience with the justice and Hardiman has sided with her on several important cases, including some cases related to the Second Amendment,
01:45:36.620it's interesting to see if he would go that way and sort of trust his sister's judgment, assuming they do have this good relationship that has been reported.
01:45:47.660One scary thing, and I think this will scare most people in the audience, the write-up on his abortion positions was he has not weighed in directly on issues of abortion.
01:45:59.800Now, again, we've seen this from several Republican presidents where they find people who have not taken views on the most controversial issues, but they're conservative, trust me.
01:46:09.180And then you push them through and they find out, wow, they're not conservative at all, particularly on those issues.
01:46:14.860So that is one that I think is concerning that he hasn't done that.
01:46:19.860But, I mean, you have to put him up near the top of the list because of that personal connection, I think.
01:46:25.040So we could see that happening as well.
01:46:26.900I mean, we have only one more day to wait, which is kind of interesting.
01:46:29.260He's moving quickly on this, which is at least we're going to find out, and then we can fight it out from there.
01:46:34.380Yeah, I mean, I think he's moving quickly on a lot.
01:46:53.940Yeah, I mean, I've seen criticisms of this sort of first hundred days idea, where you're supposed to come out and do all these big things in the first hundred days.
01:47:00.340And I think it's to reward the campaign, and I promised you I was going to do these things.
01:47:04.240You know, of course, our system is specifically.
01:47:08.300Our system is specifically designed to not encourage quick progress and change in our government.
01:47:14.280That's why there are checks and balances.
01:47:15.540It's supposed to slow the process down.
01:47:17.220When everyone complains about we don't get enough done, that's probably better for you, because most of the time the stuff they get done screws you up in other ways.
01:47:23.720Now, some of the stuff I obviously agree with, you know, some of the stuff Donald Trump is doing, you know, he hasn't really, you know, we haven't gone deep into the legislative well yet.
01:47:31.200You know, I think there are executive orders that you can reverse.
01:47:33.440One of the ones we were promised on day one, I believe, was a reversal of the DACA immigration proposal from proposal edict by Barack Obama.
01:47:44.640And for some reason, we're not getting that one, which was probably the one most talked about in this context.
01:47:50.060Trump's administration has said we're going to try to work through that one legislatively and get a long term solution to it.
01:47:55.820Hopefully that that does occur, although the long term solution usually is part of comprehensive immigration reform.
01:48:04.380This is an executive order that that that, you know, Obama did could be easily reversed by executive order.
01:48:11.280It is not one that even people like us who don't like executive orders, generally speaking, are going to have a problem with because you're just undoing previous damage.
01:48:19.880Right. You're undoing an executive order.
01:48:22.220And that, to me, is a much, much more justifiable use of that than than just kind of coming up with something new off the top of your head, which is what Obama was doing.
01:48:30.120Yeah, I don't like this. I don't like these executive orders at all.
01:48:33.880I want him to I want them to repeal the Obama executive orders and any other order from any other president, including Reagan, that is just not constitutional.
01:48:58.220If you are an employee or employment employee of the government, once you leave your your post employment restrictions on communicating with employees of your former executive agency.
01:49:09.680So if you're in the EPA, you leave the EPA, you can't go contact your people who used to work with and influence them to try to move them towards some company you now work for.
01:49:19.120Right. Makes sense. Upon leaving government service, you won't engage in lobbying activities with respect to any covered executive branch for the remainder of the administration.
01:49:27.060So you're not going to you're not going to do that, at least until the next president comes in.
01:49:30.680You will not, after the termination of your employment, the United States government, engage in any activity on behalf of any foreign government.
01:49:37.800We all agree with that. You will not accept gifts from registered lobbyists.
01:49:41.960Certainly agree with that. Here's the breakdown from Hot Air.
01:49:44.400There's still a massive problem. Trump is doing this action through executive order instead of letting it go through the legislative process.
01:49:49.420Why? Why? Why is this not being right? There's no problem with all of these things would be popular.
01:49:53.840Why wouldn't you just go through the legislative process?
01:49:55.840The Constitution is quite clear on which branch originally comes up with the rules from Article one, Section eight, subsection 14.
01:50:01.900The Congress shall have the power to make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces.
01:50:06.860Trump is acting as CEO of the government, which you've brought up several times.
01:50:10.080Glenn, he is not CEO of the government.
01:50:11.800He is used to doing things his way without having others to sign off on his actions.
01:50:16.640He's taking another page from Barack Obama's playbook, but he's promising to do it right.
01:50:21.080And he said, this is a quote from a few months ago with Trump.
01:50:24.820I mean, Obama led the way, to be honest with you.
01:50:27.260I'm going to use them much better and they're going to serve a much better purpose than he's done.
01:50:31.780Well, who decides what is good and what is bad?