＂It's Not The Gun＂ (Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn) - 2⧸22⧸18
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Summary
When the media is not talking about these protests, what are they doing? They are blasting conservatives for daring to criticize something so innocent and pure? This is being portrayed as grassroots, a student-led movement that has received so much coverage and coverage that it is now being propelled by non-grassroots sources. Oprah Winfrey and Steven Spielberg are now matching George Clooney's $500,000 donation to the March for Our Lives.
Transcript
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The leading media story everywhere is still Parkland, Florida.
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The students who are rallying for new gun control laws.
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They furthered the spectacle with a town hall last night.
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They got to confront congressmen on stage, including Senator Marco Rubio.
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When the media is not talking about these protests, what are they doing?
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They are blasting conservatives for daring to criticize something so innocent and so pure.
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This is being portrayed as grassroots, a student-led movement.
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It received so much immediate high-profile support and coverage that it is now being propelled by the very non-grassroot sources.
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Oprah Winfrey, Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg are now matching George Clooney's $500,000 donation to the March for Our Lives.
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Where are these 16-year-olds cashing that check?
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Do these 16-year-olds know how they can set up a 501c3?
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Oprah said this gun control movement reminds her of the Freedom Riders in the 1960s.
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This is a big part of America's current problem.
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You put a hashtag onto something, make some signs, print some t-shirts.
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Everybody loves a cause more than a real conversation.
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I want to go into CNN, and I want to cheer for my team.
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Fortunately, parts of America can still tell when something is being artificially whipped up into a frenzy.
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People are concerned about the safety of their children.
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We are concerned about what's happening with school shootings.
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My guns broke out of the safe last night, and they killed five children in my neighbor's house.
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I should have caught it, because I did catch my AR just randomly shooting little animals, and I did nothing.
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The superintendent of the Needville School District, this is outside of Houston, doesn't want any part of all of this stuff.
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Yesterday, he sent a letter to the district parents announcing that any students who participate in the protest of gun violence during school hours will receive a three-day suspension.
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He says, life is all about choices, and every choice has a consequence, whether it's positive or negative.
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A school is a place to learn and grow educationally, emotionally, and morally.
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We're here for an education, not a political protest.
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Now, if you want to have your kid protest, just accept the consequence.
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I'm sorry to bring this up, but I bet even the Freedom Riders didn't have any kind of consequence for their action.
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This superintendent sees this movement for the political storm it has become, and he's trying to head it off at the pass.
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It's not unreasonable for the head of a school district to try to avoid conflict and maintain order during school hours.
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If the kids would have protested about the unconstitutional activities of our government under Obama, would everybody be tolerating this?
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Schools have to impose order or you won't be able to have school.
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Every school handbook is full of student restrictions.
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But because this is 2018, there are already calls for him to be fired for doing his job.
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In times of crisis, I think we need to be reminded that it is still legal.
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Boy, I did not feel it was legal to have a different opinion last night.
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If you think it's so important for people's voices to be heard,
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this is wrong, this health care bill is unconstitutional,
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why didn't you fill a stadium full of Tea Partiers
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and then call Nancy Pelosi and the union bosses
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and the White House to stand on that stage and be berated?
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was there anybody who had the other side that was allowed to speak, really?
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and then Dana Lash for sure, who did a great job.
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But no, she was not giving any room to actually speak.
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And the crowd was cheering and chanting the entire time.
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I have to tell you, if I believed in either side,
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and one team was wildly unrepresented in the crowd,
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when there are huge warning signs and red flags
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that they are legally required to be put into the database
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and then that same person who has all sorts of mental problems
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That is the basic point that she was making there.
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because she wasn't saying that she wanted to restrict guns
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Now, if you actually care about doing something
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that solution is completely legitimate and must be done.
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Nobody cared about any logical explanation on anything.
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If you are deemed mentally dangerous to yourself or others,
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Well, I don't think that criminal and crazy people
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Well, are you saying that you won't take away guns?
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I won't take away guns from people who aren't mentally insane.
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I won't take away guns from people who aren't evil,
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and he decided he had to take off all of his clothes.
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Clothes were not a thing we really needed in the 60s.
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So in the 1960s, he goes out, and he's shooting birds in California
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with his shotgun, naked, you know, like all bird hunters do, apparently.
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You don't really clothe when you're shooting birds.
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So they're like, okay, we'll come pick up the naked hippie.
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Crazy people will kill you whether they have a toothpick
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For instance, I've had this gun for quite a while.
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Because this gun, well, I mean, it didn't kill anybody,
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You'd think some of maybe the insanity would rub off on me, too.
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Even the sheriff that came in and was talking to Dana.
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and when she told me she was leaving for the NRA,
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We love you here, but protect our Second Amendment rights, please.
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Could we play the audio of her talking to the red flag failures?
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It's the one where she's talking to the sheriff,
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and he's trying to come on strong to Dana and win with the cheers of the audience.
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If we feel the totality of the circumstances rises to the level where we're concerned
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we need the power to take every firearm they have away from them
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39 visits assaulting students, assaulting parents,
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taking bullets and knives to school, did that not meet that standard?
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Well, which are you speaking about specifically?
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Well, I know there's one Florida statute where if he's sending messages threatening to kill people,
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BuzzFeed, AP, Reuters, Yahoo News, all reported that it was to other students.
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The only person who could be a victim is an individual.
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So if an individual was threatened and it was real, that's a crime.
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They were threatened that they were going to bleed.
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They were threatened that they were going to be killed.
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And he had already taken bullets and knives to school.
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And this was known to the intelligence and law enforcement community.
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Now, I'm not saying that you can be everywhere at once, but this is what I'm talking about.
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You're absolutely not the litmus test for how law enforcement should follow up.
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To say there were 39 visits, I don't know where you got those facts, but you're completely wrong.
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Documents obtained by CNN show that law enforcement officers were responding to this killer's house on 39 occasions.
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Jake, where were you last night saying, Sheriff, you're actually wrong.
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You know, they did that during the debates a lot to make sure that people understood.
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Where was CNN last night making sure that that sheriff was discredited?
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And Dana's point is really the end of this conversation.
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This kid had law enforcement in his house 39 times.
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Jeez, man, they'll take kids who have a class two lookalike firearm, a finger gun, and they'll fingerprint those kids.
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This guy, 39 times, and they just decide to leave the guns?
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I mean, obviously, there's a different cause for each one of these situations that you have to look at.
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There's been a large range of what these things have been.
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However, this one blatantly was easily able to be solved because of mental illness.
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This is not the guy from Vegas where there was no trail and no one knew this was coming.
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He was telling people, and those people told the FBI.
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This has nothing to do with banning guns at all.
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I want to remind you what FEMA said just before Christmas.
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It was late December, you know, when everybody's paying attention to what the government says.
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What you're going to have to do, as I said, this young generation, we didn't get it done, but you will get it done.
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The eighth tragedy where we have seen numerous tips that have been reported and red flags.
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I mean, are we talking about prevention or not?
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In Charleston, they had to say, they had to come out and say that it was a paperwork error, that this individual was a prohibited possessor.
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In South Carolina, you have to be charged with a felony, not just convicted, but charged with a felony.
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And he should have never been able to purchase the firearm.
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The worst school shooting with the murderer in Virginia, this individual was court-ordered to undergo mental health evaluations.
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He would have never been able to purchase if this had been known.
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This is what I'm talking about in terms of prevention and making sure that people who are dangerous should not have access to firearms without punishing law-abiding Americans who want to be able to have that same right to defend themselves.
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If you're really trying to stop things, it doesn't necessarily mean you don't also want to ban guns.
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If you actually are looking for a solution, it is logical.
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Really, what did you expect this to be when you've invited a crowd of people?
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Who don't agree with anything other than ban the guns.
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You're going to have a reasonable debate with a mob?
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This really was really close to a lynch mob for anybody who disagreed.
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I mean, honestly, thank God, you know, they were able to, you know, secure that place because it was that was crazy.
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Again, like how many times have they, they've had debates before on CNN and what they'll do is they'll have 14 people sitting in chairs and they'll step up and they'll ask questions.
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That would have been much more, if you wanted to get anything out of that, that would have been a reasoned approach.
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You know, where everybody is wearing a tie instead.
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You put on a WWE event last night, CNN, not news.
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Do you think CNN would have thought it would be helpful, helpful if after 9-11 or, you know what, even after some of the emotion cooled,
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when the Islamic community wanted to build a mosque at Ground Zero, to hold a town hall where it was an auditorium full of victims' families who all thought alike that it was an insult to have Islam build a mosque at Ground Zero?
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Do you think they would have thought that that would have been helpful for the dialogue?
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Let's say we stage it around September 16th, 2001.
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You know, make sure it's really close, really raw.
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Because I think, honestly, when they actually were building that mosque, it would have been a very respectful room.
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You put it right five days after it when it's as raw as possible.
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They're just using these kids to build an emotional case for a policy they've been asking for forever.
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You know, you look at, and I heard that one of the kids was on CNN or something this morning, and they were like, oh, well, people are saying you're being used by the media.
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Well, no one knows they're being used or admits to being used by the media.
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When you're 16 years old, you might not pick that up perfectly.
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For example, has anyone from the media or anyone from the advocacy groups backing these people sat these kids down and said, hey, by the way, the most extreme policy that you're advocating for when you go on television every day will not take one gun off the street.
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So all the 330 million guns still existing in America would all still be there.
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By the way, all the other types of guns would still be able to be purchased.
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By the way, now this is what I'm talking about, the actual assault weapons ban.
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By the way, so you're talking about 300, instead of 350 million in a number of years, you maybe you'd have 349 million.
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But take into account that an AR-15 costs $2,000.
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If you're someone who wants to go buy a gun and you have $2,000 to spend on a gun and then you buy your handgun instead and it costs $400, what are you going to do with that other $1,600?
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So there is a good chance that this policy will actually increase the number of future guns and it's impossible for it to lower the amount of guns.
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And yet every one of those kids goes up and says, we need to get these guns off the streets.
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Because they just want the emotion from these kids.
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I think it's actually worse than what you say, because it's also not going to stop the sale of those guns.
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It's going to change, you know, the part underneath the barrel.
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That you hold on to that is spooky looking because it's black and it's plastic in it.
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And there's other modifications that would need to be made, right?
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They have, you know, they did do an assault weapons ban here in the United States in the 90s.
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And what happened was there was tons of guns that looked at the restrictions and then they just came out that were slightly different.
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So if you want to get a semi-automatic rifle, then you're talking about a semi-automatic rifle ban.
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But if you're talking about an assault rifle, what is an assault rifle?
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Yeah, because no one's ever used a handgun in war.
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There's never been any, they used to put knives at the ends of guns so you could stab people with them.
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Like, how is the Islamic State advocating, completing their war on people in Europe?
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They are just designed to make you feel emotional so that you will advocate for the policy.
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And honestly, more than that, you will garner donations to Democrats and left-wing progressive activist groups so that they can gain more power.
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It has nothing to do with these victims, and it's terrible to see them treated this way.
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And next hour, Bill O'Reilly is joining us with his take on this.
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And we'll go into a little bit of what Senator Rubio had to deal with and what he said.
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Bill O'Reilly never has anything to talk about with CNN.
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I am probably the biggest, the only defender of CNN and Jake Tapper.
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However, I defend them all the time when I think they're right.
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This is, there is no excuse for what is happening right now.
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They are, they are 100% in the bag for this agenda.
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Not for, I wouldn't say from Jake Tapper, by the way.
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I mean, that event was, and then the way it was set up was, I wouldn't say.
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Let's have a, let's, let's, let's have a real debate.
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You know, you know, people really need to be heard.
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So let's bring the Tea Party in with all of the leaders of the Obama administration.
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And we'll, we'll make them like the Christians and we'll fill the place with lions.
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And then, you know, we're going to let them be heard.
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They've, they're going to read a couple of poems and they're going to sing a song.
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Do you think CNN would have allowed that orchestration to happen?
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I mean, let's look at even more recent history.
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Remember how critical they were of Trump rallies when they would start screaming things about
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the enemies, when, when people would start chanting things.
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Uh, can you imagine you just put, uh, you know, put the opposing side of that argument
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up in front of an entire rowdy Trump crowd, uh, that, and then have them come out and be
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able to sing their, you know, country music ballad at the end of it that praises Donald
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I mean, it wouldn't, it's incomprehensible, real propaganda.
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They act as if the only there's the, they act as if everybody knows that what we need
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And, and the only reason that people aren't doing that is because they just want whatever
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So every question is asked with that, that, that sort of current under it.
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It's like, well, I mean, what point are these politicians in Washington finally going to,
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to just watch, just do some point, are you going to understand the constitution?
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If you lose the second amendment, you lose all the amendments.
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If you lose the second amendment, that's why it's there.
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Let me, let me play two quick clips from Dana last night who God bless her.
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If there's anyone who could have pulled this off, it was Dana.
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Uh, so here she is trying to defend the second amendment when a teacher stands up.
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Oh, this issue is this issue is about making sure that we're protecting innocent lives.
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When the second amendment was ratified, they were talking about muskets.
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We're talking about weapons that of mass destruction that killed people.
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She's just waiting there, pausing, letting the crowd die down, who think that the teacher's won.
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Can you get Mike to play the rest of that clip?
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What is your definition of a well-regulated militia?
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As stated in the Second Amendment, and using supporting detail, explain to me.
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And using supporting detail, explain to me how an 18-year-old with a military rifle is well-regulated.
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And the world, our country, our nation, is going to grade your answer.
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Now, and I want to say, as well, I can't, I, as a parent, I see my kids and these students.
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I see my kids and the students that are here today.
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I'm not going to pretend to understand what you went through.
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It's monstrous, and no, nobody should have to endure that.
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George Mason was one of the founders, and he said, the militia is the whole of the people.
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In the context of the time, a well-regulated militia meant an American man, an American woman,
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a citizen of the United States of America, who could operate and service their firearm.
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She just caught, you know, other than that, having that little fact that this teacher,
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I don't even know if this teacher had, but this teacher was trying to use intimidation.
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Because she, remember, she is, this is a woman who has written multiple bestsellers on this topic.
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This is, you're not going to get over with the militia argument, which, by the way, was ruled
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on, by the Supreme Court, twice, and both times, they said exactly what Dana said.
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I'm sorry to say this, it looks like the teacher didn't do their homework.
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It's kind of a basic thing, know how somebody's going to answer before you ask the question.
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When the Second Amendment was ratified, they were talking about muskets.
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We're talking about weapons of mass destruction that killed people.
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At the time, there were fully automatic firearms that were available, the Belton gun and the
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And in fact, the Continental Congress reviewed a purchase of one of those firearms for the-
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Well, what I'm saying is not more than just muskets available.
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We don't say that no one has a right to free speech because of Twitter or social media.
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But the point that you raised, and I think it's a good one, and I know what you're saying.
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I think all innocent lives should be protected.
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I don't think that you should have ever had to gone through that.
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But if I could change time and change circumstances, I would have done everything in my power
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Put him in prison or remove the guns from his house.
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You wouldn't go change time and then take all AR, you know, ARs off the market.
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If you could go back, you would do exactly what the FBI and the police should have done.
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I mean, and if you look at it this way, everything that they said that had to do with gun control
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And it was the only acceptable answer from anyone on the stage, Democrat, Republican,
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The only acceptable response was we're going to tighten gun laws and implement gun control.
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Let's say the same amount of people, 17 people, died by the same killer, except that killer
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Would they have all got around and talked to people about controlling explosives?
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This had nothing to do with the actual attack, with the exception of they're using the emotion
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If this would have been done by a Islamic extremism in a nightclub, would they have this conversation
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I don't even think so, because they wouldn't want to have highlighted that it was a Muslim
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Yeah, I mean, they may have done a gun debate after the pulse thing.
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I know we talked about a gun thing, but we were not allowed to even talk about Muslim extremism.
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Like, the equivalent here is taking an Islamic extremist, right?
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You're going in there, and then you're taking people who are viscerally against Islam or Islamic
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To the point to where they're saying all Muslims should be removed.
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I was so disappointed with the town hall last night.
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I don't think it did anything but make people on both sides of the issue really angry.
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But since CNN decided that this was their journalistic duty, I would like to cover a few
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First, let's start with the definition of hypocrisy.
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The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does
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But let me give you the actual audio clip of hypocrisy.
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If I would like to, you know, if we want to explain it and have people understand it,
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Let's play the video of the incredibly brave CNN reporter that actually had the courage
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to get into the face of a woman twice his age in front of what looks like her home.
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Being patriotic was the group that contacted and helped organize some of these activities
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Now, CNN was calling out this Florida woman for unwittingly promoting a Russian-coordinated
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The group he's referring to, Being Patriotic, was identified by the Mueller indictment as
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part of Russia's operation to influence the election.
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As per the indictment, Being Patriotic began reaching out to U.S. citizens in Florida around
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July 2016 to help organize a Florida-goes-Trump rally later in the month.
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The Russians, posing as Trump supporters here in the U.S., dupe people, like this Florida
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Now, here's where that word hypocrisy comes in.
00:39:56.280
What exactly does CNN consider, quote, promoting a Russian-coordinated event?
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Because if promoting means giving attention to a Russian-organized political rally, how
00:40:10.260
does CNN exactly explain this on November 12th?
00:40:14.900
After they pointed in that direction, they yelled, we're not going to be tolerating any
00:40:25.600
All of sort of these protesters coming together, frustrated, angry, and all directed at the
00:40:33.160
That's CNN's coverage of the Trump-is-not-my-president rally in New York that happened on November
00:40:40.500
Both CNN and MSNBC reported nearly nonstop live updates throughout the rally every single
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Michael Moore was even seen front and center marching with the horde.
00:40:55.860
Page 23 of the Russia indictment fingers that specific rally as one of those organized by
00:41:05.100
CNN has an audience of almost 354 million households worldwide.
00:41:11.820
The lady in Florida, I've never seen her before, and I'm pretty sure she doesn't have a global
00:41:17.720
Is promoting a Russian, promoting Russian propaganda, spewing it on television, saying what that rally
00:41:26.300
is all about to several hundred million people, not a little worse than the few thousand that
00:41:33.340
this woman in Florida might have unwittingly reached in Facebook.
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I want to make sure that we're not comparing apples to bananas.
00:41:50.000
Maybe CNN was just blinded by their incredible courage, but it seems to me they kind of miss
00:42:02.240
The hypocrisy with these people is too much to bear.
00:42:06.100
But since they're doxing people that were unwittingly caught up in all of this, I wonder,
00:42:11.040
will they be knocking on the door of Michael Moore's Michigan mansion?
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We have the one, the only, Mr. Bill O'Reilly joining us now.
00:42:41.420
I was a little frustrated last night with the CNN debacle, but they are claiming that
00:42:47.700
you will not come out and take a stand against those who are saying that these kids are nothing
00:43:00.280
Well, I said on Bill O'Reilly.com yesterday that I had to watch it because it's my job
00:43:06.200
so that my listeners don't have to watch the CNN thing.
00:43:10.200
But I didn't expect anything other than a very sharp pro-government point of view in the sense of controlling weapons.
00:43:20.640
So, you know, you were absolutely right when you said, okay, what do we get out of that?
00:43:37.880
I thought it was useless to basically talk about things that are unrealistic.
00:43:47.180
There are things that we can do to make it more difficult for people to kill and maim Americans.
00:43:55.200
Did you notice, Bill, that no one was interested in anything else other than banning guns?
00:44:03.160
Well, you know, they don't even know what that means, the kids I'm talking about.
00:44:07.080
The far left, obviously, wants the government to have as much control over our lives as possible.
00:44:12.600
And one of the ways the government would have control is to disarm the population so the population could not defend itself.
00:44:19.660
That's never going to happen in this country, ever.
00:44:23.500
It's just unconstitutional, and there's no way it's going to happen unless there's a coup d'etat.
00:44:30.740
All the polls say that Americans don't want the government confiscating all weapons.
00:44:39.640
It's basically using children, teenagers, traumatized kids from Broward County, Florida, to spout things that they don't understand.
00:44:50.220
And you can't challenge the student or the teenager.
00:44:54.200
If you're a broadcaster, you can't say, well, do you really know the history of this?
00:44:58.060
Or, well, do you know the unintended consequences of doing something like that?
00:45:05.860
This is paramount for your audience to understand.
00:45:09.360
The techniques of the left have changed in the last 12 months to say that if you support Donald Trump, you're a white supremacist.
00:45:17.020
If you support having Americans be able to arm themselves, then you're supporting the killer in Broward County.
00:45:26.760
If you criticize LeBron James for saying that Trump doesn't care about anybody, you're a racist.
00:45:34.160
It's a demonization across the board that if you object to any left-wing policies, then you're a horrible, horrendous person.
00:45:44.860
And the kids in the forefront are illuminating that.
00:45:49.120
So let me go back to the original question because I don't even think you understand it.
00:45:54.600
Because honestly, I wouldn't have paid attention to it.
00:45:56.340
Because it comes from places like the Gateway Pundit, which has absolutely zero credibility.
00:46:02.120
There are people now on the fringes, like Gateway Pundit and obviously Alex Jones, that are saying that these kids are all crisis actors.
00:46:15.820
I don't think there's a coordinated effort to mass bus kids' places so they can act up.
00:46:26.080
I think that there is a peer pressure, and this is, again, very important, a peer pressure on teenagers to be anti-gun at this point in history.
00:46:36.960
And peer pressure is everything in the teenage world.
00:46:44.020
Who is George Clooney writing a $500,000 check to?
00:46:48.100
Who is Steven Spielberg and Oprah Winfrey matching that?
00:46:56.460
Yeah, what this is, and that's an excellent question, Beck.
00:47:06.360
So what this is all about is the, it's the, like the Women's March.
00:47:11.600
It's absolutely identical to the Women's March.
00:47:19.440
So if pro-life women wanted to march, they couldn't.
00:47:28.380
If you believe in, you know, abortion control, we don't want you.
00:47:37.080
So it was essentially the Women's March was, we hate Trump.
00:47:39.720
So what this march is coming up is that anyone who believes in Second Amendment rights is a fascist and a sympathizer with mass murderers.
00:47:53.140
But wouldn't that, I mean, if you know anything about fascism, wouldn't that be more along the lines of the definition of fascism?
00:48:02.320
But then you're going behind the curtain, see, and most Americans aren't going to do that.
00:48:06.600
What they're going to see is they're going to mobilize millions of people.
00:48:09.960
And believe me, George Soros' money will be behind this.
00:48:16.640
That doesn't mean that they're hiring these kids.
00:48:20.560
It means they're supporting their cause and helping get the word out, et cetera, et cetera.
00:48:27.980
The kids are being used to affront a movement to severely restrict weaponry in America.
00:48:39.960
So the kids are being used as the poster people for that.
00:48:45.600
And they don't know the complicated nature of the issue.
00:48:51.960
But if you said to me, hey, Sidney, do you really know, then you'd be a bully.
00:48:58.000
So that's why you see no commentators on any network challenging any student who says anything.
00:49:03.000
Do you think that CNN was acting responsibly last night?
00:49:11.260
Well, I mean, CNN has a right to put on whatever they want.
00:49:14.500
And they knew they were going to get a big audience, and they did.
00:49:16.880
And CNN is fervently, word of the day, fervently liberal.
00:49:25.740
I mean, this is to the point of outward advocacy.
00:49:28.280
They're in business to promote left-wing causes, and so is MSNBC and NBC.
00:49:33.940
Have you noticed, though, a difference here, Bill, with this debate, though, that they're always left-leaning?
00:49:39.080
There's always an undercurrent of liberal leaning.
00:49:42.960
Yes, now they've taken the next step, and they're always left-leaning.
00:49:48.780
They're always biased to the left and doing little things to promote a point of view that would advance liberalism.
00:49:55.860
But now they say, you know, that didn't really work.
00:50:02.860
We're going to be using our power and our influence to change policy and to move the country into a left-wing situation.
00:50:11.960
And one of the strategies of that is to destroy anyone individually who speaks up against it.
00:50:20.620
And that's why you saw the attacks on Laura Ingraham.
00:50:23.480
All right, that's why you saw the attacks on me.
00:50:26.920
Because if you can marginalize those people, then everybody else is shut up.
00:50:30.940
Do you know, and I said this on BillOReilly.com last night, and I was the only one that stuck up for Laura Ingraham and told America that she isn't a racist.
00:50:56.160
What the far left is doing is absolutely working.
00:50:58.780
And the kids in Florida are just the latest, just the latest in the strategy to make it impossible to hear both sides of the story.
00:51:14.320
So we're going to pick it up next with, so what happens next?
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I know you don't like to do future predictions, but what are we headed for?
00:53:10.620
Another couple of shootings like this, and we'll be tearing each other apart.
00:53:17.040
Yeah, I think that can be avoided by legislation that concentrates on harm reduction.
00:53:27.940
For example, there is no reason why any American should be allowed to buy a gun under the age of 21.
00:53:39.060
It's scientifically proven that your personality is not formed until you're 25,
00:53:43.680
and deadly weapons can lead to all kinds of bad things, so you raise the gun purchase to 21.
00:53:53.520
Then you have a universal background check law, all right, so that people who have done bad things in Idaho
00:54:00.660
and they try to buy a gun in Virginia, the Virginians know that.
00:54:05.300
Those are just harm reduction, common sense, and yeah, I mean, you're going to get a little bit of opposition, but not much.
00:54:13.980
And then the states have got to swing into action.
00:54:20.740
Is there any reason that both states cannot mandate that every public school have two or three armed guards on campus
00:54:31.860
Those are salaries paid for, just like teacher salaries, just like coaching salaries.
00:54:36.920
You have armed guards on campus, and you have them there for 10 hours or wherever you need them,
00:54:46.160
This is called harm reduction, and there are very few downsides to this, okay?
00:54:53.100
And then once you do that, and particularly with the armed guards in the schools,
00:54:56.800
you make it 1,000 times harder for a guy to walk in and do this kind of carnage.
00:55:01.680
And so to me, I do this kind of legislative stuff, and then you're never going to stop all of these crazy massacres ever,
00:55:11.340
but you'll be able to cut them down, and you'll be able to say to the American people,
00:55:20.160
And none of this intrudes, by the way, in the right for American adults to protect themselves.
00:55:28.320
So there's a couple of things that I want to ask you about.
00:55:32.480
First, I noticed that you didn't, that's not delving into the root of the problem.
00:55:37.660
I mean, those are all good suggestions, but it's not delving into the root of the problem.
00:55:52.680
And we have talked about it, you and I have talked about it, for the last 10 months.
00:55:56.380
You know, the spirit of the country is depressed and divided.
00:56:03.160
And now, instead of respecting other people's opinions that differ from your own, we hate them.
00:56:09.080
And this is being driven by a mass media and the Internet, which is hateful.
00:56:21.980
You turn on the computers and you read the Facebook comments, it's hate.
00:56:26.400
So, of course, that's going to find its way into the daily interactions between Americans.
00:56:33.260
But I still believe that most people are essentially good people, reasonable people.
00:56:39.560
But I think our leadership is weak, and we don't have people explaining, you know, harm reduction.
00:56:48.300
What do you think about Trump's suggestion that we arm teachers?
00:56:55.800
I had enough time, problem, you know, persuading the urchins to pay attention.
00:57:04.740
You know, I don't think that's what he's, I don't think that's what he had in mind.
00:57:10.680
No, teachers need to teach, armed security personnel need to maintain order.
00:57:20.900
People keep saying, this is going to be a, it's going to feel like you're in a police state.
00:57:25.320
Do you feel like a police state when you go into a bank, or when you go to an NBA game?
00:57:29.240
I don't feel like I'm in the middle of a police state when I go see the Mavericks.
00:57:32.200
You go through a metal detector, you don't have guns.
00:57:34.420
There are armed security there to protect the people.
00:57:38.060
And you're allowed to then enjoy the game, or, I don't know, learn, or make out for the first time.
00:57:44.000
I don't know what you do in school anymore, but I don't think it's learning.
00:58:04.860
Wayne LaPierre is currently speaking at CPAC, and he is on a roll.
00:58:12.540
Real freedom requires protection of all of our rights.
00:58:15.520
He has been talking for about 10 minutes about the socialists that are coming after all of our rights.
00:58:28.440
I think LaPierre makes stronger points when he stays away from ideology.
00:58:34.860
You know, the socialist thing, I don't think that helps him.
00:58:39.000
What he did in the beginning of his speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Maryland
00:58:46.520
was effective in the sense that he said, look, the government has all these laws, okay?
00:58:52.860
Well, they really don't prevent anything, do they?
00:59:11.520
So basically the point is that, yeah, the government can say, we're going to ban all guns,
00:59:17.380
but you're still going to have massacres because people aren't going to obey that law.
00:59:21.860
That's strong because you can back it up with facts.
00:59:25.660
And it's also, you know, when you get into the constitutionality of it,
00:59:30.460
the overwhelming force is on the side of people who want to have the ability to protect themselves.
00:59:42.900
So if LaPierre and the NRA stay there, they win.
00:59:47.280
If they go over into, you know, the socialists are going to come in the middle of the night
00:59:56.900
Elk Grove Historical Society in California was going to do a mock revolutionary war battle.
01:00:03.240
And then the city found out that they were going to bring muskets.
01:00:07.140
Now, every argument I have ever heard from the left says the Second Amendment meant muskets.
01:00:17.980
Why is it then the city officials have said the reenactment cannot include muskets?
01:00:52.080
I think he was what we were talking about before, the disintegration of spirit in America,
01:00:58.400
that our spirit is being just obliterated by all of this hatred.
01:01:04.420
I think Billy Graham countered that, and that if you listen to his missions and his speeches,
01:01:15.520
He didn't say, you know, if you do this action, you're going to go to hell.
01:01:20.300
He was basically saying, look, if you believe in spirituality, if you believe in a just God,
01:01:28.260
And if you live in a certain way, you will be rewarded.
01:01:31.900
Those are all uplifting spiritual tenets, and he was very, very effective at doing that.
01:01:37.220
I think his son, Franklin Graham, does that, too.
01:01:39.800
I've listened to Franklin Graham now, and I think he's very, very on point in trying to
01:01:46.560
stop this mass hatred that we're seeing in America.
01:01:53.140
Last year, they invited Milo, and we saw how that ended.
01:01:58.260
This year, they have not only invited Marion Le Pen from the National Front, but they
01:02:07.340
It was about conservatives being silenced in social media or something, and it included
01:02:13.420
Pamela Geller and Jim Hoff from Gateway Pundit and all these really fringy characters.
01:02:37.320
I don't know why CPAC wants to concentrate on the Muslim threat.
01:02:42.720
We seem to have a pretty good policy now in this country on dealing with ISIS and the
01:02:52.040
There are certainly more important things to talk about.
01:02:55.920
Well, basically, the corruption, this is really a threat to our freedom, and people are not
01:03:07.520
The corruption of the media, because the media now has turned from fact-finding, which they
01:03:16.000
are not interested in at all, to trying to launch a coup to remove a sitting president.
01:03:27.920
After this gun control thing calms down, which will be probably in the next five days or so,
01:03:35.540
The women are going to be trotted out again to get Trump marginalized, to get him out of
01:03:44.460
So the media now uses vast power and its privileges under the Constitution not to inform the American
01:03:52.440
public, but to try to put someone in power, whether it's a Nancy Pelosi or take someone out of power.
01:04:07.840
And this has happened in the last, since Trump was elected, but it was before then when they
01:04:13.800
tried to put Barack Obama in power and were successful.
01:04:17.480
When I asked you what was really important, I assumed I was going to get a rundown of the
01:04:20.660
latest deals at BillOReilly.com, and you did not come to the club without that.
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I mean, we want, I think people are catching on.
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I read it in the press that you and I are not doing well, that we started this, and
01:04:42.040
that's why Fox is doing their thing online, because it didn't work for us, and so they're
01:04:53.280
I mean, look, we're doing very well on BillOReilly.com.
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People are, you know, marketing is the key to that, which, and I thank you, Stu, for recommending
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that, for reminding me, because people are distracted.
01:05:07.140
But all of the cable news networks know that when Donald Trump leaves the building, whatever
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circumstance that may be, when he leaves, cable news collapses.
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And, you know, we're in the forefront of giving people honest information.
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It was from about 6,000 to 11,700, I think it hit.
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I mean, look, Bitcoin is something that you don't want to do.
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You know, this is not something you're like, I'm going to put up my house for Bitcoin.
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Bitcoin, I mean, it has gone up to, from 1,000 to, what was it, 19,000 or 20,000 to 6,000.
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I mean, if you, if you're planning on a retirement plan, per se.
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However, if you want to put a little something into it, that's fine.
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You want something that is not volatile, something that actually gains in value as life becomes more volatile.
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It performs well in times of volatility, and if you've done well speculating in cryptocurrency, you might want to, you know, think about putting a little bit off to the side and hedge your bet.
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It's there to help spread out the risk, and the risk really comes from expanding interest rates.
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Hey, Sarah, do we have time for the Russia meddling segment?
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Do you have all of the audio clips and visuals for that?
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I'd like to, you know, I started the hour with what was happening with the media and Russia.
01:08:41.480
And it is important that we understand that we are playing into Russia's hands.
01:08:51.080
Russia wants us to be yelling at each other and not trusting anything.
01:09:00.740
When Alexander Dugan said on Super Tuesday, what do you think he meant when he said this?
01:09:09.960
This is first truly interesting election campaign.
01:09:14.860
It shows that America is on the brink of a revolution, especially if the elite won't give the power to people.
01:09:26.760
You've watched Dugan's guideline on Super Tuesday.
01:09:30.620
I've got the feeling that the liberals themselves won't leave the U.S. and the humanity alone.
01:09:45.820
He believes that we are primed for a revolution.
01:09:49.980
And if the elites don't leave us alone, they'll help us.
01:09:59.440
By that time, Russia had already been planning their attack on us for two years.
01:10:03.900
According to the recent 37 page indictment, Russia's strategic goal was, and I quote, to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
01:10:20.300
Notice that the election objective was not about which candidate won.
01:10:32.660
Sowing discord, which is a fancier way of saying unleash chaos.
01:10:37.740
That was their primary goal, not to get somebody elected.
01:10:41.320
As Dugan hinted at, Russia wanted us on the brink of revolution, and they are just launching their plan to help us along.
01:10:49.540
And that plan, via leaked communications mentioned in the indictment, was to conduct, quote,
01:10:56.140
information warfare against the United States of America.
01:11:03.160
By stoking tensions on both sides of the issue that we are fighting over, social justice and politics.
01:11:11.320
And if you look, in almost every case, the Russian operation played both sides of the aisle, fiercely opposing a candidate or issue in, you know, in one rally,
01:11:24.720
and then staunchly supporting that issue in the candidate simultaneously in a different rally or post.
01:11:31.740
They created social media groups specifically designed for them to fight each other.
01:11:37.200
One group, called Black Matters, here is, if you are happening to watch, here is the images of African Americans that have been killed by cops with the words,
01:11:55.680
Said, another gruesome attack on police by a BLM movement activist.
01:12:06.880
Regarding Muslims, one group, called Stop All Invaders, posted this.
01:12:15.900
You can't enter a foreign country and set up your own set of laws and regulations that contradict most of the world's moral stands.
01:12:22.720
Near the same time, another page was created, and it included this post from United Muslims of America.
01:12:29.620
The time has come to understand one simple thing, that we're American Muslims, and we are American, and we support Hillary.
01:12:43.480
There were pro-Trump ads claiming to make America great again.
01:12:52.040
Racism won, Ignorance won, Sexual Assault won, Stop Trump, Stop Racism.
01:12:56.460
There was even pro-LGBT posts organizing counter-protests to the Westboro Baptist Church.
01:13:03.660
Keep in mind, while this Russian troll was posting a pro-LGBT ad from St. Petersburg,
01:13:10.740
news reports were beginning to come out that the gay community was being rounded up and thrown into internment camps in southern Russia.
01:13:18.020
On November 12th, four days after the election, two opposing rallies were organized in New York City.
01:13:25.420
The first was designed to show, quote, show your support for President-elect Donald Trump.
01:13:30.900
The second was called Trump is not my president.
01:13:34.740
The latter was covered enthusiastically by CNN and MSNBC.
01:13:40.060
Michael Moore even came out to lend his support.
01:13:42.560
One of the big problems with the rallies is that no one could figure out who was in charge.
01:13:50.340
Hey, Morgan, can you tell who has organized this rally?
01:13:53.620
It has been suggested that so many of the protests across this country have been impromptu rallies.
01:13:59.320
I mean, it's been supported by a very diverse array of constituents.
01:14:04.420
Right now, this is a lot of different groups of people who have come together with no necessary.
01:14:16.120
Defendants and their co-conspirators organized and coordinated political rallies in the United States.
01:14:21.120
And to conceal the fact that they were based in Russia,
01:14:23.880
defendants and their co-conspirators promoted these rallies while pretending to be U.S. grassroots activists
01:14:28.520
who were located in the United States but unable to meet or participate in person.
01:15:14.040
Andrew Pollack, he was the father of one of the victims of the shooting last week.
01:15:20.340
How many schools, how many children have to get shot?
01:15:27.140
Please, please, please never let this happen again.
01:15:33.560
He pleaded to Trump while he was crying yesterday.
01:15:39.560
Last night, Trump found himself awash in a room full of raw emotion.
01:15:44.420
People affected by the shooting and Sandy Hook and Columbine gathered for a town hall to relay their experiences to the president.
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He was courteous, he was gracious, he was moved by the parents and the children that were affected by these needless atrocities.
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We have to have enhanced mental health measures.
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In the face of this tragedy, he seems to be ready to make real change on how we purchase firearms going forward.
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We obviously need better security at schools and better FBI surveillance.
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But would banning assault weapons, like some of the children at the town hall called for, make any difference?
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You know, if you're disturbed, you're going to find a way to accomplish your sick goal, whatever tools you have at your disposal.
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It's unfair and quite frankly, delusional to think differently and not also to think that the Trump administration or any president has the absolute power to please, please never let this happen again.
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There's nobody that can make these shootings stop.
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Can we do a better job trying to catch the people beforehand?
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I believe Trump will try in earnest to appease these victims.
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I just hope his solution is constitutional and, more importantly, or as importantly, effective.
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Boy, the book that we wrote, what, three years ago and put out, Control, Exposing the Truth About Guns, has never been needed more than it is right now.
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I urge you to pick this book up and grab it on Amazon.
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We've made it so you could keep it, you know, in your back pocket.
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It has, oh, man, holy cow, 25 pages of footnotes in the back.
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And it has all of the stats and all of the arguments one by one laid out.
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So, you can have an intelligent argument because that's what we, the only thing that is going to get us through this is trying to have an intelligent argument.
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Screaming at each other or coming, you know, unarmed in an intellectual gunfight.
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The topics are we should start drafting a bill to ensure Newtown or shooting like this never happens again.
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So, the father last night, and I think we have it, the Rubio.
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I think it's a victim's father, Senator Rubio, and he did exchange.
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He first accuses Rubio of being pathetically weak.
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I believe that someone like this individual and anyone like him shouldn't have any gun.
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But I want to explain to you for a moment the problem with the law that they call the assault weapons ban.
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And if you'll give me and indulge me for a minute to explain to you the problem.
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If you look at the law and its definition, it basically bans 200 models of gun in this combat.
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But it makes, but it, but it, it allows legal 2,000 other types of gun that are identical.
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In the way that they function, in how fast they fire, in the type of caliber that they fire, in the way they perform.
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They are indistinguishable from the ones that become illegal.
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And the only thing that separates the two types, the only thing that separates the two types, is if you put a plastic handle grip on one, it becomes banned.
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If it doesn't have a plastic handle grip, it does not become banned.
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So let me explain, if I may, just for a moment more.
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Are you saying, are you saying you will start with the 200 and work your way up?
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Anybody who is intellectually honest on the left and says, why can't we just do common sense?
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Well, because this kind of language scares everybody who says, wait, you guys want to take away guns.
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Then are you going to go after, let's get this done, then we'll go after the other 2,000 guns.
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The people that I heard speak last night were emotional, and I understand that.
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If I just lost my daughter a week ago, and I'm talking to somebody, and I don't believe in guns, I just think that they're whatever, I am really angry.
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And I am going after, and I shouldn't be listened to, I should be heard, but I shouldn't necessarily, you shouldn't design policy around an angry, grieving father, mother, friend.
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But if you listened last night, where did we get out of this?
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You scared the people on the right because of statements like that and the cheers behind.
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That's why we can't have a common sense conversation, because no one trusts the other.
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Now, I could flip this around and say, I'm sure that there are people on the left that heard Marco Rubio say he's not going to take, or he will take money from the NRA, and they believe that it's money that is influencing Congress.
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If we're going to do anything, we have to base everything on reason.
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You're not going to get that in an emotional debate.
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You're going to get my side is better than your side.
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Honestly, we were playing a clip earlier today.
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I've got four monitors sitting in front of me, and we were playing a clip, and it was just an audio clip.
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So I was looking for the video that went with it, and I looked down at the bottom video, and I thought that was the video for about five seconds.
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It was the crowd at the Olympics last night because I heard the audio of people shouting and cheering, and I just went down, and I thought, okay, well, man, look at that.
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No, there's something very peculiar about the way we're doing this.
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You know, you're going to emotional, grieving 18-year-olds to try to find out what we should do with national policy, and their recommendation is that non-grieving, non-emotional 18-year-olds don't have the capacity to own a firearm.
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So we're saying that the people who are making policy are not capable of exercising their Second Amendment rights.
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It's a very strange thing to do, and honestly—
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When did we get to the point to where we didn't say as a culture, leave the families alone?
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Well, I mean, obviously, they want to be involved in this, right?
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They are willing participants because they think they're doing something important.
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And as you said, Glenn, you go through something like this.
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I will give—personally, I'm going to give you a complete pass on anything you say.
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You could start speaking in languages I don't understand.
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You could do anything you want at this point because I know if something like this happened to me, I would be blurting out all sorts of stuff that's a lot dumber than even this, you know, than arguments that aren't buttoned up.
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But it's the media that I have the problem with here.
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The media knows, and they've been clear about this.
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They say it after every shooting, we don't understand.
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We thought that after Sandy Hook, they'd finally do the thing that we wanted them to do, and they didn't do it.
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And then we thought after the Pulse shooting, they'd finally do the thing we wanted them to do, and they didn't do it.
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Because what their whole plan is, wait for something to make people so emotional that they abandon the rights that they've been given.
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They will abandon those rights because the emotion will overcome them.
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This is exactly what you're seeing playing out right now.
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This does not make the people who are making emotional arguments, it doesn't make them bad.
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If there's no criticism of them, I can't even comprehend what they're going through.
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But the idea that the media takes them out and says, puts that show on last night, where you have thousands of people who all agree are going to shout down anyone trying to make a point that is rational on the other side,
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serves nobody unless you are an activist group.
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If you're an external advocacy group, which is not what CNN is supposed to be, then I understand that.
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But the several times, some of the speakers or the people who are asking questions said, look, I want to like you.
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Somebody else said, you know, I want to believe that you are going to be part of the solution.
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And, you know, anybody here who agrees that we have to take these guns off the streets, I will support.
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Hey, if you as long as you agree with me 100 percent, I won't kill you.
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Well, it's the it's the old compromise of the Obama administration.
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Look, I'm willing to talk to anybody who will do the thing that I want them to do.
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No, that's not trying to work through the issues.
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What that dad just said makes half the country lose their mind, makes half the country go.
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Whenever you hear somebody in the media say, you know, Australia did it.
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Well, 30 some odd percent of them, which which in the United States would be between 60 and 100 million guns.
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Let's let's look at let's look at Great Britain.
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Well, I mean, it didn't do much of anything, to be honest with you.
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And I posted this yesterday on my Facebook page.
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If you go to Facebook, Stubergear, or I think you shared it as well, the Glenn Beck page.
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It goes through all everything that happened there.
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But it was they showed that there was no discernible change in murder rates.
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20 times as far as any proposal goes in the United States right now, this is way further than an assault weapons ban or anything like it.
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They purchased 30 percent of the weapons in the country and there was no discernible drop in in murder rates.
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The same thing happened when we did a assault weapons ban here in the United States.
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What you found was that there the Department of Justice found there was no change in murder rates.
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This is and I don't know where you're going to get this.
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I don't know where you're going to have this conversation.
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And, you know, maybe it's up to maybe it's up to us.
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If you can come up with a proposal that works, let's discuss it.
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But I also believe the best way to protect my children is through a constitution, a constitution that allows me to make the decisions that are best for me and my family.
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How does one protect that speech if you don't have a weapon?
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Remember, the weapons were taken from the Germans and the Jews for their own protection.
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How was anyone able to do anything to stop Hitler?
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Listen to what the left is saying about Donald Trump right now.
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They're already saying that he's akin to Hitler.
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It's unfair to ask Stu because he's read the book Control.
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But Stu, what is the percentage of shootings, mass shootings, that have happened in a gun-free zone?
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Can I get a little bit of a range, like a few percent?
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According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, and it's in the book Control, gun-free zones, areas where guns are not allowed, have been the target of more than 98% of all of the shootings.
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It's only about just over 1% that mass shootings have happened in a...
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I mean, because one of the arguments was, well, no, a lot of them commit suicide, so they don't care if there's going to be guns at schools.
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They don't care if there's going to be security guards, so they would commit suicide.
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So even if they're going to commit suicide at the end of it, it doesn't matter.
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They want to have as little resistance as possible so they can accomplish their goal.
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I mean, look, you can say that the teacher with gun thing is not a good idea.
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I mean, you know, I know a lot of people are acting as if teachers are incapable of handling firearms.
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That's not the teachers that I knew, but still, you should never, of course, be forced to handle them.
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The coach, I believe the coach that died last week, I think he was a gun owner.
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I mean, he put his body in front of, with no chance of survival.
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People keep saying, you don't want shootouts in school.
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Well, that's only true until one person starts shooting.
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You want someone who's going to step up and stop it.
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A shooting range where the targets can't shoot back.
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What happens if, let's say, police were stationed all around school?
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Are you telling me you wouldn't want a shootout with police?
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By the way, that 1% number, I just want to make sure that you understand that the actual
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number of shootings that have happened in a place where you could have a gun since 1950,
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Really excited to have Jordan Peterson on again tomorrow.
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He is the author of a new book called 12 Rules to Live By.
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I really wanted to hear his opinion on what's happening with the gun debate and how this is
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Also, the new catchphrase with the media is about toxic masculinity.
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We'll talk to Jordan Peterson on tomorrow's program.
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Speaking of toxic masculinity, Pat Gray joins us.
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I'm a little concerned that our republic is literally at stake right now.
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The Second Amendment is the amendment upon which all the rest of our rights rest.
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Well, from a group of old, dusty white slave owners.
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But how about the theme of that event last night?
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I know these people have been through a horrible thing.
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But for them to all say, you know, like the one guy said, and this was kind of repeated
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And essentially, it's look at me and tell me you agree with what I'm saying or we're all
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You must agree with my line of thinking or I don't want to hear from you at all anymore.
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Now, they keep saying, we're not going to allow anyone to shut us down or take away our voice,
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Well, because you drove this bus into the ditch.
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You know, it's interesting, too, because we look at the two events that happened yesterday.
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How often is Donald Trump accused of being, you know, of leading with emotion and all
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And this guy is constantly like lowering our discourse.
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I mean, you know, there's obviously something to that at times.
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The CNN event and the event where Trump sat around with people affected by this tragedy
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and talked to them, the listening event he did, you got way more out of that than you
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I don't think you got anything but anger on both sides out of that event, because if
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you don't agree with the Second Amendment, you were screaming at the top of your lungs
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If you do agree with the Second Amendment, you were screaming at the top of the lungs, at
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the crowd, and cheering for, you know, Dana and Marco Rubio.
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I didn't hear anybody on the side of the NRA and Dana.
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They jam-packed that audience with like-minded people.
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In your selective memory, Pat, you remember when we were all upset about the constitutionality
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of Obamacare, and you remember when CNN filled an arena full of tea partiers, and then we
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were allowed to say whatever we wanted to Nancy Pelosi and the leadership, and then they let
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Then they let us sing a song and have poetry at the end to close it out.
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Maybe my memory's not quite as sharp as it once was, but I've completely wiped that event
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And how about Trump even coming out of this, talking about comprehensive background checks?
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I don't know what that means, but if you can improve the background check, great.
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So let's not miss anybody, but what I'm concerned about is the mental health.
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Do I have to go see a psychiatrist before I buy a gun?
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If you are seeing a doctor and you are dangerous to yourself, and we have a high standard on
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this, and it means that that now goes to your background check, then I'm fine with it.
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You're going to have to change HIPAA laws for that, though, right?
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But if that's what it means, that the information that is already there, for instance, the Air
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If it just means that information that is already there that says you should not have
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a gun is transferred to that background check, I'm good with it.
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If it is, well, we're going to have a new little mental health thing, uh-uh.
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And everybody who's ever been on an antidepressant can't own a gun, nor can anyone in their household
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because you can't have a gun in that house where somebody's on antidepressants.
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If it goes to that route, well, you can't support that.
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How common sense did you feel there was last night?
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I didn't hear any common sense from the other side.
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It's all you agree with me, or you're a bad person.
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And if you accept money from them, you're doubly evil.
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I mean, Marco Rubio supported raising the age to 21 for these weapons, and they still
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You've got to raise the military age at that point, right?
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If you're going to do the selective service stuff, you better raise that to 21 as well.
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And all of these kids who are teenagers support not being able to buy a gun until they're
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You can trust them with a policy, but you can't trust them with a gun.
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You can trust them to design the national gun policy, but God forbid they actually own
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They say themselves they can't be trusted with that.
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Why should a 20-year-old single mom be denied the right to defend herself and her kids?
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We should lower the age to buy a handgun to 18 instead of raising the age to buy an AR
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Dana made a similar point when she talked about a victim of rape who has discussed that
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Dana said to herself, she's a female living on her own at 20 years old.
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She should not be able to protect her house or her apartment.
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I mean, look, this is a constitutionally guaranteed right.
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And the idea that we're going to make, we're going to increase the age until you can achieve
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Something else that is troubling to me is that these kids seem to be making it out about
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our generation is imperiling their generation by not doing what their generation wants us
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It is, by the way, it is also their generation doing the shooting.
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Could something else have been done by the people who knew him best?
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And we all know, of course, the answer to that one is yes.
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If 39 visits to his house in seven years from the police, including, not including the
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YouTube comment and the call to the FBI a month before he actually did the shooting from someone
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A guy who has two guns and has never committed a crime with him.
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That's Pat who has, that's Glenn who has 974,000 guns, but has still never committed a crime
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Wait, you guys have both lost all of your guns?
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I, you gave them to, yeah, they're weapons of war, so I gave them to the war people.
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So, when you said you lost them, well, it's like we lost Billy Graham too.
01:45:03.380
Because it seemed like you were making up the story as you were going along.
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To potentially, and maybe the story's not completely honest is what it seemed like,
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Well, I, you have to say, it would be a lot of melting knowing how many firearms you own.
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Still, you know, you just want the people when they come for the guns to know you're wasting
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May look just like the one you could buy at Home Depot.
01:45:38.100
I hate to bring this up, but you've hit on two things that have happened before.
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One, a society gets so polarized that the newspapers are printing different accounts of the same
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event, but they don't even reflect the facts either side.
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You could watch it and read one newspaper and then read the other newspaper and go,
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The other thing that happened before was it's your generation that got us here.
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I don't know what country that happened or when, what time period.
01:46:47.660
I'm just waiting for the big protest, uh, where we see the signs, Trump is a fascist.
01:46:57.600
Because that sounds like a good dual angle approach on the problem.
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There's just, there's just, you can't be afraid that the government may be fascistic and say
01:47:16.460
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There's a couple of other, uh, pieces of audio that we want to get to.
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I mean, look, everyone that's talking guns right now.
01:48:45.760
Here's, here's this exchange from, for the SC Cup, uh, unfiltered.
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There's some very, there's some very tangible things that can be done.
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Tangible things that can be done is, is, is absurd.
01:48:57.420
If it were a tangible thing that could be done, it would have been done when Democrats
01:49:08.180
You're saying Democrats are also acting out of the lab of crimes at the NRA.
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You didn't know that there were Democrats who were beholden to NRA.
01:49:16.700
54 of them lost their house seats in 1994 when they tried the first assault weapons, though.
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It's so sad that this is the energy in this, in this conversation when people die.
01:49:31.300
When you say it's tangible to pass an assault weapons ban, it actually isn't.
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That's why Democrats didn't do it when they had total control.
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It means it's time for us to limit the control the NRA has over the Congress because people
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It means that we start standing up organizations and fund them to do things very differently
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Millions of people who make small dollar contributions, like me.
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What I just said, if you wanted to have a conversation instead of just a debate.
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Do you want to listen now or do you still want to host?
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Okay, so what I said was there's organizations that are being stood up to combat the narratives,
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the policies that the NRA pushes, and we need to fund those organizations to ensure
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that the NRA's voice is not just muted, but we completely take them out.
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We are looking for funding to be able to combat the NRA.
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This is not about, let's make sure that no children are harmed.
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It is the NRA's membership, people who own guns, who are law-abiding citizens, who take
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gun safety more seriously than anyone on television, that are left, right, and in the middle.
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This is a little known fact about our system of government, but the NRA actually gets to
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He came in and ran as a person who believed in the Second Amendment.
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So they're not controlling his vote, as they would not probably agree with this 21-year-old
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There is a very well-documented and book written by the left about the Tides Foundation and about
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You're a conspiracy theorist if you believe the Tides Foundation influences Congress or elections.
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Yet the big, bad, evil NRA has got to be stopped now.
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I'll have to check out your star chamber maybe later.