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00:25:03.640So, we're talking about the American dream and the rise of socialism and this new idea that we're just going to get everybody into a house by offering them a 50-year mortgage instead of a 30-year mortgage, which is insanity.
00:25:33.640You know, you could take an eight-year loan out on your car if that's the only thing you can do to get a car is to take eight years, but you know at the end of the eight years that car is not going to be worth really anything and you've paid all of that, you know, all of that extra cost on interest, but if that's what gets you in.
00:25:53.580But this is not, this is like a savings of like $300 a month and it's 20 extra years of paying on your house.
00:26:02.300To me, Stu, doesn't that sound like rent to you?
00:26:05.360It does sound a lot like rent, which is, by the way, not the end of the world.
00:26:09.180I mean, renting, I do think that we have a weird thing that we are internalizing, thinking that having a mortgage is the thing that brings you happiness.
00:26:18.020As a homeowner who has to dive into repairing things all the time, I assure you this is not accurate, but you know, it is something that is kind of thought of as part of the American dream and something that can help you, especially if you stay in the same location for a long period of time.
00:26:34.640But putting a 50-year mortgage in, it's just going to mean you're going to give a lot more money to the banks.
00:26:39.880You know, it's great, I guess, for the banks.
00:26:42.820Maybe it's good for you, but I think at the end of the day, it's certainly not going to increase your happiness when you're in year 18 and you've paid off 19, 20% of your mortgage.
00:26:55.760Like, you know, when you're at year 30 and you're paid off 40% of your mortgage, these are not going to be fun times.
00:27:04.500I don't know why that's going to bring you happiness.
00:27:07.720So the American dream was changed by a guy named, I think his name was Stuart Chase.
00:27:14.040No, Adams, Adams, I can't remember his name, but it was in the 1930s.
00:27:19.220Yes, it was in the 1930s, and, you know, they were revamping everything, and they made the American dream to be a house.
00:27:30.160And that was never the point of the American dream, because it can't be.
00:32:18.540A lot of people who don't know what hard work is and don't want it.
00:32:21.440Yeah, I will say, you know, making people you'll never meet generations later pay for what you have, you know, run up the bill for is, you know, either just completely immoral or an incredible life hack.
00:32:36.960I mean, if we don't care about these people, we could just say, screw them and just run up the bills.
00:33:08.680You know, you talk about charting your own course.
00:33:11.200Homeownership is one of the things that makes it difficult to chart your own course in a way because you can't just move around.
00:33:16.840You are at the whims of the housing market.
00:33:19.920If you want to just leave, you might not be able to do that to go to another city, to go to another job.
00:33:25.220There are lots of limitations people don't think about.
00:33:27.660It all works out fine and dandy when the market is going up like crazy because you can kind of turn that in and you're getting tax incentives.
00:33:34.700The government's making this, encouraging you to do it, which is usually something that, you know, conservatives resist.
00:33:41.840Just, you know, but it can work for a lot of people.
00:33:44.700It's great in a lot of situations, especially if you're going to stay in the place for a long time.
00:33:48.380And that, I think, focusing on, you know, ownership status as the American dream is a bad thing.
00:33:54.180And that's one thing we do have to work on.
00:33:57.240The second part of it should be easy, which is trying to figure out what the solution to these problems are.
00:34:03.640And it's like, well, yeah, I mean, I think we can all agree that perfect capitalism, which, of course, we're nowhere near, but if some sort of capitalism is not going to, by definition, work for everyone perfectly.
00:35:33.200And there are some people that work really, really hard their whole life and they still don't get the same outcome.
00:35:39.000As a massive fan of capitalism, I can totally admit that.
00:35:43.480There's tons of people that will work their asses off and try really, really hard.
00:35:47.400And likely, I mean, capitalism typically in most cases will provide a life that if you work your butt off and you really try your hardest, you can get by.
00:35:59.420It doesn't mean you're going to live the luxury life, but it might mean those things.
00:36:04.260But the part here that I'm trying to attack a little bit is, well, what's the solution of that?
00:36:10.260If you think the solution is the type of government that you described at the beginning of this hour when you're going through our torch history lesson here, of every single time socialism has been tried, it's failed miserably.
00:36:25.080Why on earth would the solution to whatever problems we have with capitalism be the form of government that has failed every single time?
00:36:32.760It's like saying, well, I, you know, I'm going to the gym every day.
00:37:10.340And this is the part that nobody understands or is willing to look at because they think that socialism is for the people and it's of the people and by the people.
00:37:19.840OK, they don't recognize this is to the advantage of the billionaires.
00:37:26.160It's to the advantage of those people who are in on it and will control everything.
00:37:32.780And so, yes, it doesn't make sense to unless you have all of the doctors who are in on it, who know we're just going to make so much money amputating legs.
00:37:44.080And, yeah, everybody is going to be walking around hobble, but they will have to.
00:38:50.500It is the ruling class, the people that will make all of the money that are selling you the same old tired lies, because it always ends the same way.
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00:47:29.720All right, I want to take you back to January 6th.
00:47:32.600Actually, January 5th, the night before.
00:47:34.860Picture Washington as, you know, most Americans never see it.
00:47:39.540Cold, quiet, a city held together by marble and memory, and the fading belief that people inside all of those buildings still serve the people outside of all of those buildings.
00:48:08.240In the shadow of that walk, someone places what appears to be a pipe bomb next to the Capitol Hill Club.
00:48:14.880Minutes earlier, another device had been planted behind the Democratic National Committee.
00:48:22.760These two devices would become the invisible thread running throughout what would happen the very next day.
00:48:29.380Those two devices would pull police away from their post at the Capitol, drain resources, and fog the timeline, just as Congress gathered to certify the vote and the crowd surged towards the Capitol.
00:48:56.280She was called away from the Capitol, and she was put into the building right where the pipe bomb was sitting right in front.
00:49:02.920Now, for five years, this mystery sat there like a locked room.
00:49:10.700Nobody seemed able to open it, or maybe they weren't willing to open it.
00:49:15.260The FBI had said they conducted all logical investigative steps.
00:49:19.540They offered nearly half a million dollars in reward money, and yet somehow nothing, nothing, not a suspect, not a motive, not even clarity about the most basic facts, such as who found the bombs.
00:49:35.300Why was the response team to the bombs so casual?
00:49:43.160Blaze News began to quietly gather some pieces, video fragments, security footage, non-public recordings, testimony from former FBI agents, interviews with intelligence contacts, and then one of the strangest clues, a walk, a gate.
00:50:00.500Because in the shadows of these tapes, the unknown bomber had left behind the one thing a hoodie and a mask could not hide, the way their body moved.
00:50:12.620So, Blaze News arranged for a forensic gait analysis.
00:50:19.680This is a scientific algorithm that compares the knee flexing, the hip extension, the step length, the cadence, and variance.
00:50:27.420It's like a digital footprint of how a person moves through space.
00:50:32.660Well, the software returned a 94% match between the bomber's walk and that of the walk of a former Capitol Police officer, who I'm not going to name here.
00:50:43.320And I'll tell you why I'm not going to name her here.
00:50:48.080When the analysts that were human, they looked at it, they put the match closer to 98%.
00:50:55.160Now, let me stop here and tell you why I'm not telling you the name of this person.
00:51:56.680She's also a member of the Civil Disturbance Unit.
00:51:59.740She was one of them that trained officers on so-called less lethal weapons.
00:52:05.780Now, we told you in another story last week that these officers were using these less lethal weapons in ways that they are marked on the weapons.
00:52:16.480Do not fire at heads, faces, yada, yada, yada.
00:52:19.960Well, the Blaze News investigation uncovered a video showing this individual using those weapons aggressively on the crowd on January 6th in ways that apparently they say don't do it.
00:52:33.260And she is somebody who is training people.
00:52:37.820But pieces start to align in ways that demand scrutiny.
00:52:42.460Former FBI Special Agent Kyle Serafin recognized something else when he was presented with this evidence.
00:52:50.620He realized that he had been ordered days after January 6th to conduct surveillance on one door away from the address now tied to this individual.
00:53:03.300What they did was, remember, they didn't have any.
00:54:16.940Now, you can't accept any of this as, you know, damning evidence that is going to put somebody in jail.
00:54:23.640OK, but it also can't be dismissed because it's uncomfortable.
00:54:28.220Then there's the timeline of the bombs themselves.
00:54:31.500Investigators believe that the DNC device was retrieved and then replaced hours before it was found.
00:54:38.160So somebody put it there and then picked it back up and put it there hours before again.
00:54:44.840Security footage also shows Secret Service agents calmly eating lunch in their vehicle for two minutes after somebody came to the car and said there's a bomb right there underneath that park bench.
00:55:51.960This is a constitutional death or life of the republic question, because if these findings hold true, even partially, then the story of January 6th does not merely change.
00:56:08.960Secondly, the narrative that has been cemented for years looks like it's not true.
00:56:16.600And the American people have to confront the possibility that someone with a badge, a paycheck and a government clearance may have played a role.
00:56:27.680I want you to be very, very clear on what I'm saying there may have played a role in the most politically explosive event in our generation.
00:59:53.460Because that's the only thing that will steady a republic trembling under the weight of unanswered questions for far too long.
01:00:03.120Now, let me take a break and come back and tell you what we know and what we don't know and what we should be asking about this in 60 seconds.
01:00:13.480First, winter in Israel isn't like what you think.
01:00:17.580And for far too many elderly Jews, survivors of the Holocaust, living alone in more than memories and prayer, it's also a season of fear now.
01:00:25.160When the wind blows through the broken windows and the cupboards run empty, they wonder if anybody remembers anything at all.
01:00:30.800The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, they remember, they're on the ground right now delivering food and boxes and warm blankets and medicine and heat to those who would already otherwise be left behind.
01:00:40.980And every package they deliver is a message that says you're not forgotten.
01:00:44.800And it's people just like you that make that possible.
01:07:05.500A Black Friday deal that actually makes you more prepared, more independent, less reliant on anybody else.
01:07:11.340It doesn't get much better than that because when the lights go out or the shelves go empty, the people who took a few minutes to prepare are usually the ones who sleep easy.
01:08:31.200You know, we're at the beginning of whatever journey this is to understand, you know, who this is or whether this person is responsible for it.
01:08:41.220You know, I think when it's something this serious, you want to make sure you understand every piece of evidence, right?
01:10:47.900This, the, the secret service, they erased all of their audio of their, their transactions, their phone calls, you know, their, their radios, uh, you know, calling back and forth.
01:12:17.440Did they know that, you know, we have her on tape at the, um, at the, um, January 6th, you know, a Capitol debacle firing, you know, these devices right in places.
01:13:17.680You have to go in with real skepticism.
01:13:21.640And like, you know, again, when you're looking at a case like this, you know, I think there was a piece of evidence a while ago, too, that we covered where, if I'm remembering the story right, they had these surveillance cameras that were important in the area.
01:13:34.060And then they were just pointed away the opposite direction when all of this was going down.
01:14:15.240Every time there's, like, we are every, we're investigating every lead.
01:14:18.920You wonder whether that actually happened in this case.
01:14:21.780It seems to not have happened for a four-year period beginning in 2021 and ending in 2025.
01:14:31.580Like, that does not seem to be much of anything.
01:14:33.660There was lots of people who were related to January 6th who were very, very seriously investigated, some of which did some violent bad things, some of which didn't do much of anything.
01:16:30.700Certainly wasn't as big a threat as the Civil War, as I believe was the case the left was trying to make at the time.
01:16:36.820But it was serious with some people involved in it.
01:16:39.840The most serious thing that occurred on that day has to be multiple bombs placed next to presidential candidates and vice presidential candidates.
01:16:51.800That has to be the thing that we would all kind of decide.
01:16:56.220Potentially the assassination of major government officials would be like central to the argument.
01:17:02.060And you'd think, considering how deep they went and how many claims they made about the seriousness of this day, that would always be a focus.
01:17:32.860It makes the United States citizen ask questions.
01:17:36.660It apparently doesn't make anybody in the intel community ask any questions, which really makes me ask even more questions.
01:17:43.640I saw something, by the way, I want to take a quick break.
01:17:46.680I saw something out of the U.K. this weekend.
01:17:50.540Did you see the soldier from World War II?
01:17:53.500The old guy that, I don't know, he was like 100 years old, and he was talking on Good Morning Britain about Remembrance Day.
01:18:04.020And they asked him what he remembered.
01:18:07.040And he gave them quite a surprising answer.
01:18:09.720And I want to play that for you and then talk to you about it here in just a second.
01:18:14.360First, when your day is finished and every little noise in the house begs for attention, the kids, the emails, the unfinished to-do list, you deserve a moment that's just yours.
01:18:24.520That moment starts with, you know, bubble cuddle blanket, the bubble cuddle blanket from Cozy Earth.
01:20:28.320My message is, I can see in my mind's eye, there was rows and rows of white stones of all the hundreds of my friends and everybody else that gave their lives for what?
01:20:56.120What do you mean by that, though, at this point?
01:21:00.000Well, what we fought for, and what we fought for was our freedom.
01:21:05.040We find that even now, it's a darn sight worse than what it was when I fought for it.
01:21:12.520Oh, Alec, I'm sorry you feel like that, because I want you to know that all the generations that have come since, including me and my children, are so grateful for your bravery and all that for service personnel.
01:21:27.420And it's our job now, isn't it, to make it the country that you fought for.
01:22:27.560I mean, he fought for it, and he knew what it was.
01:22:31.460But what happened was, the younger generations and the politicians, we allowed ourselves to be convinced that it doesn't require any sacrifice.
01:22:44.760You know, sacrifice is no longer needed.
01:22:49.060And you can keep it and have all of this stuff or whatever it is.
01:22:53.040He kept the world free for us to be able to forget and then get to the place to where we are now, having to ask ourselves, is it worth fighting for?
01:23:10.320Because that's what happened last time.
01:23:11.920They didn't know, was it worth fighting for?
01:23:42.440And when we won, in the end, when the wall finally came down and the Soviet Union collapsed, we all celebrated because we thought, oh, it's finally over.
01:23:53.880And we don't have anything to worry about, because freedom is on the march.
01:34:06.260And as life gets more expensive and median wages don't keep up, you're going to have not just liberals, but even conservatives, especially young people, saying, hey, wait a minute.
01:34:36.180I'm going to release a poll on Wednesday that that shows some pretty stark things.
01:34:43.380Twenty seven respondents who said they voted for Trump in 24 in 2024 said they would like to see a Democratic Socialist candidate on the 2028.
01:34:51.800Fifty one percent of all young voters, 52 percent of voters say they have a very favorable or somewhat favorable impression of socialism in Zoran Mandami.
01:35:00.980Asked about Mandami's government's housing.
01:35:03.700And this is just all across the country.
01:36:14.460And all of these dollars are out there chasing assets, especially assets like housing.
01:36:20.680And so it's good for people who have, you know, own their house, you know, and are watching the values go up.
01:36:27.280But it really is bad, especially for younger people that are trying to get in the market.
01:36:32.180And it's really bad overall for the country because it's distorting all of these economic signals.
01:36:38.300And the bad news is that it doesn't seem like anyone is willing to do what is done.
01:36:43.900And in the 80s, of course, you had Fed Chairman Paul Volcker, who jacked up interest rates and engineered a kind of controlled recession and then stabilize the monetary system.
01:36:55.340It doesn't seem like the prudent, long term thinking policymakers are even considering such an option.
01:37:04.940But instead, they're just trying to keep jacking up valuations and and then celebrating, you know, that those top line numbers.
01:37:16.320You also talk about in your first episode, you talked about and I was fascinated by it, the division that is being sown now on the right.
01:37:26.640And I find this probably one of the most disturbing trends because I I think I understand it.
01:37:36.700And Yashar Ali tweeted from Glenn Beck to Bill Maher, the number of commentators who simply do not understand this moment of what making Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson popular is astounding, but not surprising.
01:37:51.440The way they're responding to Nick, Candace and Tucker is not dissimilar to seeing Jeb Bush respond to Donald Trump in 2015.
01:37:57.700What I don't think I I don't think he even listens to me.
01:38:02.240I don't think I fit in that, but maybe I do.
01:38:08.620I think that's a bit of a jab, a cheap jab.
01:38:10.860But what I think is happening is, OK, at heart, you know, Candace Owens has all sorts of, you know, I mean, really deranged and lunatic conspiracy theories seemingly on every topic.
01:38:22.340She is kind of spinning conspiracy theories and intimating, at least through kind of insinuation that maybe Israel had something to do with even Charlie Kirk's assassination.
01:38:32.740There's, of course, no evidence of that.
01:38:35.860And in fact, all of the evidence that's been marshaled so far paints a very simple story.
01:38:40.900A young man who was involved in a relationship with a transgender furry captured by left wing ideology on the Internet, you know, shot Charlie Kirk and was arrested shortly thereafter.
01:38:52.580But it's important for those of us on the right to not take the bait.
01:38:58.100In one hand, you can debate, you know, Candace Owens and say that this is way out of line and that she's, you know, she's crossed over into, you know, kind of illegitimate territory.
01:39:08.580But the problem with that moral argument is not that it's wrong.
01:39:13.400But there's no actual remedy for this.
01:39:16.380You know, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, certainly 50 years ago, the right could successfully kind of gatekeep or maintain responsibility in the narratives by, for example, saying you can no longer write for national review.
01:40:26.980But if someone were to go way out into into some ideology that is no longer oriented towards truth or no longer useful for a political movement, you can disaffiliate.
01:40:40.220But the problem is that the Internet creates not only the good thing is that it creates a kind of even playing field for all entrants.
01:40:49.640The bad thing is that sometimes, you know, the most kind of conspiratorial ideas, the most deranged ideas, the most lunatic ideas can gain a huge audience.
01:41:01.440And so as Candace has spun out away from reality, paradoxically, she's had, you know, a bigger audience than ever.
01:41:09.380And those of us who actually care about people who are listening to this and being misled, we're left with very few options.
01:41:17.280And so I think that's what really the right is facing right now.
01:41:19.800How do we deal with ideas that are plainly false, that are plainly destructive when they're coming from, you know, in theory, our own side?
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01:43:40.160Is there any more to that than what you just said?
01:43:43.140What am I missing that's making him so popular?
01:43:45.440Well, I think what he's done quite skillfully is go directly at all the soft spots and all of the taboos.
01:43:57.400And so in the digital economy, the best way to get attention is to cause controversy.
01:44:05.200And the best way to cause controversy is any kind of taboo.
01:44:10.060And so you have someone like Fuentes and to a lesser extent someone like Candace Owens, you know, going at every taboo, you know, Holocaust denial, you know, expressing support for Hitler.
01:44:21.640I mean, it's really juvenile eye poking that gets a rise out of people on the left because it's useful for them.
01:44:29.520They can say, finally, we've been saying that the conservatives are Nazis for the last 10 years.
01:44:34.800And finally, we have a seemingly a real Nazi, but also for people on the right who are just kind of emotionally manipulated.
01:44:42.640They're so scared of, you know, being being called a Nazi or they're so scared of crossing kind of proprieties that they reflexively and emotionally go out and denounce this kind of performance.
01:44:56.300And look, they're right on the moral questions, but they're not necessarily being sophisticated tactically because the more hysterical you react, the more emotionally you react, the more you're actually just driving attention to the phenomenon.
01:45:09.960And so the best reaction is when someone comes out and says, you know, I love Hitler, you say, all right, buddy, you're being a kid, you know, jokes over, moving on and just cruelly, calmly react, react to the situation and don't feed it with hysteria.
01:45:28.860So we're talking to Christopher Rufo, host of the new blaze TV show, Rufo and Loma as it premiered on Friday.
01:45:37.540One last one last thing, I think we have about three, four minutes left.
01:45:41.240You talked about Cheney, I think the way I talked about Cheney, you know, I liked Cheney on some things, but he really was the architect of all of the things that we now look at and go, don't do that.
01:45:54.160You know, he gave us the Patriot Act, he gave us the endless wars, he gave all of these things to us.
01:46:01.260And there were some good things about Dick Cheney, but those were not one of them.
01:46:48.220And yet there are many people within the Republican Party in particular who seemingly want to go back to that and they reject Trump's foreign policy.
01:52:58.140And if you say, hey, those links you gave me do not work, it has even gone so far as to invent and fake an entire media article under a real journalist's name
01:53:07.100to pretend that it was printed and somehow, for some reason, has been taken down from the media outlet's website.
01:54:41.240They released wild models of Gemini into the public sphere.
01:54:44.400So if you go on one of those AI websites, like there's LLM Arena, where you test different AIs against each other, and you ask those versions that are wild downloads of it, you're going to get a bunch of this crazy stuff.
01:54:58.260If you go, you know, on any application that was built with these as a bedrock that allows you to ask questions about somebody, you're going to get the same stuff.
01:55:05.560So I want you to think, you know, sort of down the line here, right?
01:55:10.020If somebody built an app with reputation scoring for insurance risk, and they built it using, let's say, Gemma, and it's feeding information about specific people, you know, you very quickly start to understand there's many different situations where this can affect somebody's life in a million different ways.
01:55:26.800And, you know, the real problem here is we don't have a standard as a first principle with AI that it can't harm humans.
01:55:34.960And that's really the thing that we have to fix.
01:55:36.840Because if it can do this to me, it can do this to anybody.
01:55:40.620It can do it to your sons, to your daughters, and it can ruin their lives.
01:55:43.500Because AI is dominating in many different industries, and it will dominate.
01:55:48.800So what we have to ask ourselves is, are we protecting our kids and grandchildren from the downstream effects of AI that believes it is okay to harm humans, whether that be by defamation or physical harm?
01:55:59.480And it's very easy to imagine a future after seeing what happened to me where, you know, a nice guy with the wrong politics is lied about by the dominant AI and makes him unemployable.
01:56:11.100Because whenever somebody researches him, the AI is feeding out a background check that says he's an accused rapist and supported the KKK and so on and so forth.
01:56:19.620That's another one of the lies it told about me, which would be strange.
01:56:22.920As a Latino, I kind of felt like Dave Chappelle in that skit where he's Clayton Dixby.
01:56:27.440You know, he's like the black KKK member.
01:56:29.540I was like, well, that would be strange for me as a Latino.
01:56:32.260But it sticks to this, and it genuinely believes this stuff.
01:56:36.240And that's what's really scary is it's creating this base of knowledge that I refer to as the roots of the tree, right?
01:56:43.640And this tree is growing right now, and it's going to be a big part of our world.
01:56:47.080And we're either going to allow that tree to have poisonous roots that makes everything it bears poisonous, or we're going to say, hey, no, we've got to build this very carefully so that it does not do this to humanity.
01:56:57.960So my, I think the most important question I could ask you is, how are you not my richest friend at this point?
01:57:10.780How do you not own Google at this point?
01:57:43.080And that's even with the public figure, you know, sort of a threshold, because for those who don't know, there's a different standard for how public figures are treated in defamation cases versus somebody else.
01:57:52.080You have to prove actual malice or gross negligence.
01:57:54.960In our case, we notified Google for two years that this was happening and asked them to stop it.
01:57:59.300But they did not stop it until, at least with the app and the website, very, very recently over this last week.
01:58:14.860I even after we filed the lawsuit, it was still happening on their main platforms.
01:58:19.940So this is something that like we had to go out there and I had to make this go viral for them to pay any attention to fixing it finally.
01:58:27.740But for two years, they were not engaged by just me notifying their executives and Google employees talking directly to me.
01:58:34.720Even you'll see in the lawsuit, one of the Google employees that was working with us two years ago on trying to get this fixed, she resigned.
01:58:41.780And, you know, apologized for not being able to get this fixed.
01:58:45.320But then, you know, I bring in Dillon Law Firm and they sent multiple cease and desist letters to Google.
01:58:49.960And Google essentially just couldn't be troubled to fix the problem, which makes you wonder, what was the real intention of this?
01:58:55.640Was this a dry run at destroying a reputation so you can use it in elections?
01:58:59.980Because, Glenn, you know as well as I do that the swing seats in our country determine power in our country, which party controls it.
01:59:07.280So I want you to imagine in a generation now where so many people more than ever are just relying on an AI or the Internet to say, hey, what's the difference between these candidates or who should I vote for?
01:59:16.360And imagine it spits out that the Republican candidate in every swing seat is an alleged criminal.
01:59:22.720And every Democrat has a fluffed up resume where the horrible things they've done, if you ask about it, it'll say, oh, no, that's a lie.
01:59:32.960Very easy to see where AI flips elections and decides control of our country.
01:59:37.100I can't, I mean, I honestly, honestly, Robbie, I thought this had been solved, you know, months ago, months ago.
01:59:48.840I didn't know that up until last week, this was still going.
01:59:53.260I mean, they don't have, they don't have a leg to stand on.
01:59:57.140Your attorneys must be like, I'm never going to work again.
02:00:01.440Well, the wild downloads will seemingly do this forever.
02:00:04.900In our estimation and the AI experts we've talked to, there's no way that we've found for Google to be able to force an update to these things.
02:00:12.240I mean, I'm open to hearing differently, but we've talked to some of the biggest experts in the country, and they're like, no, there's no way.
02:00:17.060A bunch of these models aren't even connected to the Internet.
02:00:19.680And they're used to build a lot of the bedrocks of things people use, including medical devices, law enforcement, all types of things.
02:00:25.580So there's a million problems, but in terms of damages, you know, like if we go all the way to trial, a jury seemingly doesn't have a limit as to what they can assign as punitive damages, because you've got to remember, Google is the fourth largest company in the world.
02:00:38.340So if you want a company like that to learn a lesson, the only way to do it is to slap them with damages that they never want to happen again, right?
02:00:47.700So our hope is that they're going to be held accountable and that we're going to change the rules and set the precedent here so that there is a first principle with AI, that it can do no harm against humans.
02:00:58.640And if there is some massive damage at the end of this that is assigned to me and I'm paid out by, I plan to use that, you know, in good stewardship, right, to help humanity to be able to navigate these waters and ensure that we have AI that's fair and unbiased.
02:01:14.320And remember, you're a good friend that never said anything bad about you on the air ever, not once, not ever.
02:01:20.220That's true, that's true. You'll get a very nice decision.
02:01:25.220Wow. Where is this going to be? Where is the trial going to be? Please don't say California.
02:01:30.620No, not California, Delaware, but we just got our judge assigned and, you know, I really feel like this is one of those cases where no matter where you are, you know, there's the appeals process and things like that.
02:01:42.880And at the end of the day, in the highest courts, when you look at this case, I mean, I don't see how any judge, even one that really dislikes me, looks at it and finds a way to get rid of it.
02:01:52.660And that's, I mean, it's what they did is so egregious. It has to be answered for in some way.
02:01:58.560Yeah. And especially since it will never, ever go away. They've got to find a way to purge that stuff. They have to. I mean, you know, maybe they made that mistake this time, but that can't be made a second time.
02:02:09.580I mean, that, that destroys people forever, forever and ever and ever and ever. Yeah.
02:02:15.380That's a big part of our goal is making sure this doesn't happen to anybody else.
02:02:19.140Well, I'm glad it's finally stopped. Uh, and to some extent, and, uh, we'll be following. Thanks so much, Robbie. Appreciate it.
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02:03:42.280Keep your powder dry and your conscience clear.
02:04:40.200I think it's going to be over for a short period of time, but it never really was real.
02:04:45.100Well, anyway, this was all theater and it was theater from the beginning.
02:04:49.660I think the Democrats got what they wanted out of this.
02:04:52.860I think honestly that they saw, I think correctly that there was an upcoming election that they needed to inspire their base for, uh, is particularly one in a, in a, in Virginia where a bunch of people will be laid off.
02:05:06.440Um, and you know how the media is going to translate that to them.
02:05:10.120They're going to say it's the Republicans fault.
02:05:11.500So the fact that they were able to get through an election like that, and then it's immediately afterward changed their tactic completely knowing they were never going to get these healthcare things they were asking for.
02:05:22.100I, I think it worked as, as planned for Democrats.
02:05:25.260You know, it's, it's interesting to me that, I mean, we now know what they're capable of doing and they will destroy the economy to win the election and justify the means.
02:05:34.980Um, and the, you know, the, the, the, the democratic socialists, they're, they're not Democrats for the love of Pete.