JAILED for Daring to Feed Her Family | Guest: Arthur Brooks | 5⧸6⧸20
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On this episode of the Glenn Beck Show, Glenn talks about the government jailing innocent people for doing what they should have been doing all along, and how the government is out of control. Glenn also talks about a new zero-turn lawnmower that s going to save you a ton of time mowing your lawn.
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oh man i am i am so sick and tired of bringing this news to you um but the government is just
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out of control just out of control uh yesterday the salon owner that we had on last week was sentenced
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to jail for opening her salon because she was going to go out of business uh her her salon workers
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were you know struggling with money they had no money they needed to go back to work
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so they she opened last week we had her on today in texas they sent her to jail wait until you actually
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you hear what the judge said we had uh microphones it was on youtube yesterday so microphones were in the
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hustler turf.com promo code beck tonight on glenn tv the democrats claim to be the party that believes
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all women but what about tara reid joe biden is joe biden he's a person of great values so i want to
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remove all doubt in anyone's mind glenn examines the allegations against joe biden and does what the
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left and the media didn't do for brett kavanaugh follow the facts watch glenn expose the dangerous
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me too hypocrisy of the left tonight 9 p.m eastern at blaze tv.com slash glenn yeah uh i'm going to
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introduce you to the seven seven accusers of joe biden uh tonight you don't want to miss it and we
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really try to do a very thorough uh examination of the charges and everything that's going on
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you decide uh nobody else in the media is apparently willing to do this so it's left up left up to us
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us yahoos that have no authoritative truth apparently all right i want to take you now to dallas texas
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shelly luther was a uh was a woman here in texas or she still is but she's now in jail um and she's
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never had a run-in with a law she's not a revolutionary she's just a salon owner
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and she got to a point where she couldn't keep her salon closed anymore um now we we have created
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a black market i mean this is why these things never work there's a black market you can go get
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your hair cut somebody will come to your house and cut your hair people are people are getting their
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hair cut so we're now making people into criminals so she can't she's going to lose her business
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uh people on her staff were having a hard time feeding their children they needed the money so
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last week we now know because of yesterday that salons are open in texas on friday so she was a week
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early she opens it up she she gets a court order immediately because the this is this is what she
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says i don't know this for sure but she said that the one who had lodged the complaint was the store
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owner you know a couple of doors down which was a dog grooming place which was open so it was cool to
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have your dog groomed but you couldn't groom so she gets a court order and she says no i'm not going
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to do it um and she gets a uh cease and desist order from a judge she is on television and she rips it up
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well that really pissed off the judge and you know we're not a system of of laws anymore we're a system
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of men how dare you how dare you how dare you quote defile uh a cease and desist order by
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ripping it up how dare you you don't believe me listen to the judge yesterday when she was hauled in
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front of court and sentenced to jail listen to the arrogance of this judge that you now see the error
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of your ways and understand that the society cannot function where one's own belief in a concept of
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liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials
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that you owe an apology to the elected officials whom you disrespect disrespected but flagrantly
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ignoring and in one case defiling their orders which you now know that you understand that the proper
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way in which in or in an ordered society to engage concerns which you may have had is to hire a lawyer
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and advocate for change an exception or an amendment to laws that you find offensive
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that you publicly state that this is the way that citizens in the state should behave
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and that you represent i can't stop i can't take it i can't take it she has to apologize you notice he
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says uh that you defiled their order it was your order there what what do you have a mouse in your
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pocket there is no they in that you issued the order you were offended that she ripped it up and so now
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you want an apology a public apology you want to shame her and now you're you're putting her in jail
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because of quote her arrogance and her selfishness oh she's selfish well then the judge said to her
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do you have anything to say uh before i sentence you and she said yes i do here is her comment
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judge i would like to say that i have much respect for this court and laws
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and that i've never been in this position before and it's not someplace that i want to be
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but i have to disagree with you sir when i when you say that i'm selfish
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because feeding my kids is not selfish i have hairstylists that are going hungry
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because they'd rather feed their kids so sir if you think the law is more important than kids getting
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fed then please go ahead with your decision but i am not going to shut the salon
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he looks away from her when she says i have to disagree with you he is so pissed off at her
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this is i don't even recognize this what are you doing what the hell is our country doing right now
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this is a woman who doesn't have a record she's not a troublemaker she's been forced to close her business
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she's going out of business she has no money her her her salon workers have no money
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she obeyed for how many weeks six there are many americans who believe that we should have shut things
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down we had no handle this is my belief we had no handle on this on this disease we had no idea
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what we were headed towards i told you it's not about the death it's about overwhelming the system
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we can't overwhelm the system because it would be total chaos well we didn't overwhelm the system
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we did our job and we did it voluntarily you didn't have to tell us we did it voluntarily
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you should have should suggested it and now what are you doing when we have had enough
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not in new york not in a hot spot in los angeles but in places where it's do you know that if you talk
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to the the hospitals and the nurses here in dallas texas you know they're laying people off nurses doctors
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so you we didn't overwhelm the system we have the capacity people are not going to go out and be
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crazy because nobody wants to die and nobody wants to kill anybody else you know and there's always
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going to be stupid people out there i don't think she's stupid but there always will be stupid people
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always and i don't have a right to be kept safe in fact i don't want you to lock me into a room to keep
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me safe anyone who is taking away my rights of freedom i will i'm here at my house i'm self-quarantined
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but you're forcing me and then out of your arrogance
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you think you're more important than people feeding their kids you think you're more important than
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a lifetime of dreams gone down the crapper wiping your family out that's this is what's happening in
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america families are being wiped out and everybody cries about oh my gosh well if if you have if you
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if if you went to harvard i can't expect to be paying that back i'll never get out of debt well where's
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the outcry of this oh i i know yeah it's coming from nancy pelosi because what nancy pelosi wants
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is the power otherwise give us a freaking tax cut
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you've already made unemployment which by the way in many states still people can't get their
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unemployment still haven't had their unemployment check and the arrogance of governors like cuomo
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what comes out and says well then go get an essential workers job screw you call cuomo
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and by the way they all think they're above it they all do i mean we have the other cuomo brother
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who was self-quarantined in his basement and and lecturing all of us how you have to stay in but
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he was outside he was caught outside when he was supposed to be self-quarantined in his basement
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he wasn't in fact a passerby a biker went wait a minute aren't you supposed to be quarantined
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don't you have the coronavirus yeah shut up are you kidding me now i don't know if you heard it that
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uh niles ferguson the guy who got the uk to to shut everything down he was the guy who came out from
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oxford said oh man it's millions will die okay all right so at the time we thought that was pretty
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legitimate he's a legitimate guy did you see that um uh he he um he resigned yesterday uh because
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um he wasn't self-quarantining he decided that he was going to go have a sexual affair
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with a married woman who lives at home with her husband and two children
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if you believe this what are you you're trying to kill her and her children and her husband
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no they're above it they're above it that's for everybody else that's the little people
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well maybe in merry old england but not here in america i agree with the quarantine i do not agree
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that we are not balancing this with common sense and an understanding of what we've done
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to the economy and when i say the economy i'm not just talking about money i'm talking about people's
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dreams i'm talking about people's ability to have money to be able to feed themselves
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what is it a right to life liberty oh and the pursuit of happiness
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all right another woman gabrielle ellison she owns big daddy zane's bar in west odessa texas now i'm
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bringing you these stories i know these are happening all over the country but damn this is texas
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if it's as bad in texas the freest state in the union what the hell are you living through good
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heavens man okay so gabrielle ellison she owns this this bar in west odessa texas she said she was
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going to reopen her doors in violation of the state's covid 19 lockdown because she couldn't support her
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family anymore she said i'm losing my bar i'm i'm uh losing all of my money i've got to reopen so she
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decides to reopen well she's in trouble okay so she there's they want to do a protest against the state
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uh and it happened what yesterday today's wednesday yeah um it happened yesterday
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she says they called the sheriff's department and said hey there's going to be a protest blah blah blah
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they were fine well they weren't fine the sheriff came in uh the sheriff came in and uh arrested
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a lot of the people at this rally now it's because they were carrying guns well wait a minute what's
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the problem with that they were carrying guns they say in the bar but they weren't in the bar
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she says gabrielle says that they were on private property behind the bar not connected to the bar
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don't know the truth about that but if you weren't in the bar if you're in the bar it's against state law
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you got to obey the law with guns um but she but they weren't they were arrested outside here's the
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you know every time you do that you set people off what the hell are you doing the problem here is is
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the heavy-handedness you're only feeding into this please if you are a protester and you want your
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freedom please stop showing up with rifles slung over your shoulder yes i know you have a right to do
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it but you hurt yourself and the cause because everything is about an image and so you look like
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you're a revolutionary and yes we need a revolution but not one with guns not one with guns
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and sheriffs stop rolling in with tanks you're just pissing everybody off
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urge you to do it i am so i hate to use this word but i but i really feel so urgent on this i feel uh
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a little freaked out by what's happening with the censorship now what what it is it's a hundred
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it's a thousand times worse than it was when we were talking about prager university and everything
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else they are now saying they need authoritative uh voices and authoritative truth well their
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authoritative truth comes from cnn their authoritative voices are cbs news um and that and that comes at the
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direct expense of us they are throttling us down and and pointing you to them uh and it's so dangerous
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right now especially with the coronavirus where you can't question things you know if i talk about uh
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the wuhan uh labs i get i get punished for that you will not see those posts that we do i bet you see
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less than half of the stuff that we post um right now because you're just not in fact i know it i see
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the numbers from facebook i see how many of my audience is actually exposed the people who signed up and
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said i want stuff from glenn how much is exposed and how much is not we're going to lose track of one
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another and voices will be silenced um this is why i built blaze tv um it's why i started it so we
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wouldn't there would be no one in between us um please join us at blaze tv tonight at uh nine o'clock
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we are taking on the joe biden accuser um she has an invitation she was she responded to us last week
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and she said i will uh i'll get right back to you we have not heard back from her there's still time
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maybe she will join us live tonight um but uh but we'll see tara reed we invited her to be a part of
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the program tonight um and we are going to go through all of the things that she said and all the things
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that joe biden and the press are doing the story that they won't do but we will tonight 9 p.m welcome to
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the program mr pat gray how are you sir i'm good i'm good is there a better example of what you were
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just talking about than those two doctors from los angeles who have no tested and treated over 5200
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patients and they were they were contradicting things that fauci was saying and so that youtube
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took them off just shut them down just took their video off what's crazy about this pat is they may not
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be right on everything but is fauci right on everything no is the who we're talking about
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what's so crazy people decide they're smart enough to make their own decisions yes yeah yes and they
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don't see that the problem that the that the left says says they have with with uh faith is it dumbs you
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down you know you can't you can't talk about things they don't want you to investigate things
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you know there are bad questions oh the devil may just say that all these kinds of things that's
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what they hate they hate the fact that the catholic church uh locked in the and so do i you know
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galileo locked up in the tower i hate that that that's completely out of control because church became
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political well i got news for you science is now political science is now the church um and and you
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you cannot vary from what official science says period even scientists can't those doctors may
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may be wrong on some things but they have a valid place uh and a valid uh reason to speak out if
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that's truly what they believe and they have the science to back it up even if they're wrong because
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science is always wrong it's always wrong butter's good for you butter's bad butter's good butter's bad
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butter's good butter's bad shut up you don't you don't know how big the universe is you don't know
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anything we've never explored the bottom of the ocean stop telling me that you know everything
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because you don't especially something like the coronavirus they're just locking people up into the
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tower if they disagree it's making people so cynical we did a uh did an internet poll just on twitter
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asking people if and when a vaccine comes out will you take it 70 said no because they don't
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they're gonna be forced to they're gonna be forced that's what i said they'll probably mandate it
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and then you're really gonna get people's backs up then they're really gonna be pissed
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you know people thought that it would be a second amendment thing that could cause a revolution
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and a war in this country and a civil war it could be something as simple as a vaccine good and only
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because people don't trust the government anymore yeah and they don't don't trust any of this they
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don't trust some private business owners either like i don't know bill gates uh really leery of that
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guy yeah and this is one of the reasons why uh you know people have talked about the swedish model
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as something that we could do here and it's really just like we always say with health care
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you can't just plop the swedish model in the united states the swedish people are very compliant
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and trusting of government and experts and they're very they're the size of like rhode island yeah
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and it's not even working there anyway but that's a whole nother story but but it's not a plausible
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option as we've been talking to bernie sanders about for decades here in this country like you can't
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just plop these solutions from a 10 million person country into the united states and expect it to
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work the same way and you know again i think you're right glenn you brought this up earlier
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if you're not rolling into uh bars with tanks the the people are going to be a lot more likely to
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trust you when you have a different solution let me yeah let me ask you this stew you heard the audio
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pat you heard the audio a few minutes ago of the judge in that salon owner case here in dallas
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where he said you defiled my uh order and um you know you're going to jail you're arrogant you're
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selfish she said i'm just trying to feed my family now imagine what would happen if a judge in texas
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said the same thing and the defendant responded the same way except she wasn't a salon owner
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she was an illegal alien imagine what would be said oh man yeah they just wouldn't happen and
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you're going to separate this woman from her family for seven for seven days you'd never do that to an
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illegal alien no illegal aliens can be separated from their families but american citizens can and
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nobody even cares nobody cares about it uh i i'm telling you there is a there is a and and i urge
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people i am with you i am with you those who want to uh march and uh and protest i think this is
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this is another tea party coming but this one is stronger um and you will have more people on your
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side but you can't roll in with arms and the back of a you know i saw those people up in michigan and
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they had the back of the you know the humvee uh or whatever it was you know one of the big army
00:32:34.880
trucks and they had guys you know peeking out from behind with rifles that's people don't want that
00:32:41.400
no americans don't want revolution we're not blood in the streets kind of people and every time you do
00:32:50.720
that you set you hurt your case please don't do that please don't do that it everything is
00:32:58.860
about image this is why martin luther king won he knew if we strike back if we do anything
00:33:06.160
we will lose he knew malcolm x was wrong it's a different thing in america than it is any place
00:33:16.900
else don't do it and when you say that people always go back to well the founders the founders
00:33:22.480
just the founders got yeah the founders waited like 40 years of peaceful means they went back and
00:33:28.440
forth to britain over and over and over seeking redress they tried and tried and tried to do
00:33:34.520
something peaceful and at the last resort when there was nothing else available to them well what
00:33:40.620
is our last resort well not the last resort they had the king had soldiers quartering in their home
00:33:48.640
right they were searching papers in their home now me personally i think you could make a case
00:33:54.400
that the federal government is doing that right now by spying on us and having tracking all of our
00:34:00.240
movements and tracking all of our voices and drones up in the sky i mean you could make the case but
00:34:07.680
you've got to win the hearts of the american people and they are on your side but the minute you look
00:34:14.740
like antifa you lose you lose yeah no no doubt about it it's just it's every time you show up
00:34:23.120
armed like that uh i i i think in the minds of the american people you're you're an extremist and that's
00:34:29.980
what they label you as and here's the problem it's going to hurt the re-election of of donald trump
00:34:36.580
if that becomes a big force like antifa if you start to see that on the street donald trump will
00:34:45.040
support your ideas he i can't believe i'm saying this about him because this was my biggest fear
00:34:52.480
uh is that he would become a dictator kind of guy well he hasn't he's demonstrated the exact opposite
00:34:59.840
but so he's agreeing with you in principle that these things shouldn't be happening right but the
00:35:06.080
minute he says that they're gonna say look he's for this military uprising blah blah blah blah blah
00:35:12.680
and you will sway some people because people americans don't like those images and those
00:35:20.840
images are all that's going to be seen that's all that's going to be seen well look what they've done
00:35:26.220
look what they've done to the images of this the two swastikas that were at that michigan rally that
00:35:31.620
you've been talking about the michigan rally had had all they've talked about in the press
00:35:36.680
is the two swastikas and the swastikas weren't praising nazis they were saying you're acting
00:35:42.820
like a nazi and we're opposed to that but that's not the way it was presented in the press so they
00:35:48.280
took that and turned it completely around take a look at take a look at my career there is i won
00:35:56.700
the defender of israel award okay i didn't win it i mean it's like a camp you know it's not like a
00:36:02.460
contest i was awarded the defender of israel the the award was presented uh by sheldon adelson and his
00:36:11.340
wife and benjamin netanyahu okay uh and yet i the press said that i was an anti-semite how many jewish
00:36:21.980
people believe that i'm an anti-semite because they took everything i said with i said look at
00:36:26.860
the pattern this is the beginning of nazi kind of stuff if you don't stop it look at the the pattern
00:36:34.220
of anti-semitism in europe look at what's happening in our own country in our universities somehow or
00:36:40.220
another they made me look like an anti-semite okay well if i mean i was on fox news you're not on fox
00:36:49.440
news you're not there every day to defend yourself with a powerful voice if they have those images
00:36:55.960
they will destroy you and i don't mean to be insulting glenn but you are a legitimately terrible
00:37:02.260
anti-semite oh you are awful at it i mean you just can't pull it off you keep it i mean for a guy who's
00:37:10.300
so anti-semitic you just keep praising jews all the time what is going on with you
00:37:14.620
i'm really bad at almost everything i do yeah here's another example yeah exercise anti-semitism
00:37:23.020
all you're just bad at all wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute
00:37:26.180
you know i i actually i you know you guys we were talking off the air about the covid 35
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uh that uh that we're we're all gaining i thought it was the covid 19 you're now
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the covid 35 i think everybody can agree we all gained about 35 pounds in all these weeks yeah
00:37:45.780
uh it is that is the one thing that is really impacting a lot of us i mean the good news is
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we are going to be selling a lot of sweatpants so i hope america has not gotten out of the sweat
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pant industry because i don't want my dollars going over to china their sweatshops making sweatpants
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for a big fat americans um well anyway uh all right thank you pat
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arthur brooks is uh coming up senior fellow now harvard business school um he's uh he's now
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teaching you know how to build a life and how to be happy he's he is one of my favorite people
00:40:06.420
uh on the planet he is a defender of liberty and the free market and just knows it inside and out
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and is a really happy warrior uh can't wait to talk to him he's coming up in just a little while
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also um we have the woman who actually we have our lawyer she was supposed to be on but she's in jail
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now um but we have uh her attorney on in hour number three uh the woman who went to jail for opening up
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her salon here in uh dallas texas which is crazy by the way speaking of crazy texans uh dan rather is in
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the news um these guys they're so blind they they think they're so smart and they are so blind
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as to what is happening in the country and the role that they're playing it's it's almost laughable
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um but i never for some reason i just i think that's part of the happiness index that's the
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i'm just bad at life yeah it really is it really is he's now um a professor of practice at harvard's
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are happy uh under a free market than any other system we're going to talk to him about the free
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arthur brooks welcome to the program sir how are you hello glenn how are you my friend i can't
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believe we haven't talked in so long i know i know and we just the last thing we said to each other is
00:44:46.920
we've got to stay in touch and it's been like six months um it's ridiculous i know i see you i'm like
00:44:53.980
i i feel like i was separated at birth from this guy i mean exactly the same way right and we have
00:45:00.200
the same yeah we do we love america but we're not we're not uncritical we see what's wrong and we want
00:45:07.400
to make it right we were we were we're both classically trained uh french hornists so oh no
00:45:15.820
that's you i don't know that's that was just you um anyway so uh arthur you are now uh teaching at
00:45:23.160
harvard kennedy uh school and uh you're what what exactly is the class you're teaching what is it
00:45:29.260
you're teaching so i'm a professor of leadership at harvard and and i span two schools the harvard
00:45:34.980
kennedy school is the policy school at harvard and the harvard business school is obviously hbs is
00:45:39.780
where people get their mbas and i teach classes in leadership uh at the policy side i teach classes
00:45:45.040
in happiness at the harvard business school it's the most incredible opportunity i've ever had i just
00:45:50.620
finished this super popular very oversubscribed class called leadership and happiness to my mba
00:45:56.200
students right before they all had to leave and not come back now do the the does the school
00:46:03.860
and the students do they know how much of a free market guy you are well i think you know most
00:46:12.980
universities in america today they'll accept a free market here on a case-by-case basis
00:46:17.380
okay and and you know the the nice thing about it is i mean like most universities harvard university
00:46:23.960
has you know most of the people pretty left-leaning but what i love about it is the real it's a real
00:46:29.600
marketplace for ideas and there's an appreciation for people who think differently so i felt incredibly
00:46:34.720
welcome i love it i have to say well and my students are smart and everybody mixes it up it's fine
00:46:39.960
there could not be a better uh mascot or or champion of uh the free market and our system than you uh
00:46:50.600
i'm thrilled that you're up there making an impact um i want to talk to you a little bit about an article
00:46:55.480
that you just wrote on happiness uh and fulfillment because we have something that we're not really
00:47:02.540
talking about one of the real unintended consequences of of what's happening with covid is people are
00:47:09.340
wildly lonely loneliest the according to research loneliest americans have ever been uh and we have
00:47:18.080
real fear uh doubt people are going to be you know many people have already lost their job that just does
00:47:25.960
horrible things to people so i wanted to talk to you about happiness because in this article you you said
00:47:31.540
that there's there's three equations and i want you to take us through the three equations of of how we
00:47:38.900
can get better yeah no i appreciate that and and just even back up a little bit the loneliness thing is a
00:47:45.600
really interesting problem because most of us we leave our relationships up to our circumstances
00:47:52.380
and then and then we can't i mean most of us actually feel good when we're with other people
00:47:57.760
maybe not in a you know bustling party but seeing other people but we don't know why we feel good and
00:48:04.200
there's an answer to that and the answer is that there's a neurotransmitter that's created by the human
00:48:08.320
brain called oxytocin not to be confused with octocontin obviously but they're actually similar in so far
00:48:15.140
is that oxytocin makes us feel physically good and when people are really lonely they'll take drugs
00:48:21.240
because they actually want to substitute for it this is one of the reasons that they found that 20
00:48:25.820
of active duty troops in vietnam were addicted to heroin but when they were when they came back and
00:48:31.900
they got their oxytocin in their brains which came from contact with others 95 spontaneously stopped
00:48:38.560
using heroin on their first day back this stuff is super powerful and when we don't take into account
00:48:45.660
this oxytocin this neurotransmitter this hormone in the human brain we're going to actually feel
00:48:50.800
horrible so that the challenges you know for public policy makers and leaders is understanding that
00:48:57.040
we have to make cost benefit calculations where people are not going to become depressed and lonely
00:49:01.360
even if there's some risk to society it's very important and for the rest of us we have to
00:49:06.520
understand that and make decisions where we can get our fix of the oxytocin that god wants us to have
00:49:11.940
so i don't know if you uh remember john huntsman senior uh but he was a friend of mine and
00:49:20.580
you know grew up dirt poor became a billionaire and a guy that really had everything had a great
00:49:28.040
family had a great business great reputation more money than you know the holy family but you know
00:49:34.560
the holy family was poor but um he just had just had a lot and you would look on the outside and you
00:49:41.360
would say this guy there's no way this guy couldn't be happy and he was happy he was fulfilled
00:49:47.060
but he taught me something one of the first times he kind of became a mentor of mine and we were just
00:49:53.500
walking around in his yard his backyard and and uh he said so glenn how much is enough and i said
00:50:00.780
what and he said how much is enough and now here's a guy who's walking around and we were on the side of
00:50:06.720
a mountain that he owned and i said uh i don't know i don't know and he said well you have to decide
00:50:13.340
and you have to decide right now he said because when you get there you won't recognize it because
00:50:19.980
it won't be enough so you have to recognize it now uh otherwise you'll always be pursuing it
00:50:26.460
yeah that's right and and the key thing is that the key thing to remember is that there are basically
00:50:32.840
four things that your brain is telling you to chase that are idols and they won't bring happiness and
00:50:38.840
there are four things you should be chasing so here's basically so i'll give everybody a second
00:50:43.220
who's listening to us all million that are listening to us right now pick up a pencil okay so the four
00:50:48.980
things that your brain that mother nature is telling you you really really want are money power pleasure
00:50:55.680
and fame and fame means prestige or whatever it means the admiration of other people okay money power
00:51:03.300
pleasure and fame those are the things that mother nature if you get it you'll finally be happy but
00:51:07.960
they're wrong they're idols yeah big they're 180 degrees off of what you really want here's what
00:51:13.380
you really want that'll actually give you enduring happiness faith family friendship and work that
00:51:21.120
serves others and where you can earn your success that's it that's your happiness portfolio those are
00:51:26.680
the places where you're supposed to put your deposits mother nature by the way doesn't care if
00:51:31.680
we're happy i mean notwithstanding this thing i talked about this oxytocin in our brains mother
00:51:36.120
nature she's like yeah look it's famous and you'll finally be happy you'll be on the hedonic treadmill
00:51:40.360
on the hamster wheel of life for the rest of your life that's why john huntsman said glenn
00:51:45.320
what's your number why because that's the only chance if you can answer that question to get off the treadmill
00:51:51.600
and it is it's again one of the reasons why i left fox is because i wanted i noticed that i was
00:52:01.300
starting to want the fame and i knew because i'm an alcoholic i had already washed out once
00:52:06.700
i knew these things and as the minute i wanted it i i realized i'm going to destroy myself i mean
00:52:14.400
and that's why people who are famous you generally will sell their soul or if they're powerful in
00:52:21.120
congress they'll sell their soul because they want it and they just keep trading away the things of
00:52:27.160
real meaning and value oh yeah no it's fame is a really it's it's the worst of the four by the way
00:52:33.680
so you can be quite happy battery acid with money with money but the same you can only ever be happy in
00:52:40.960
spite of it and yet people really really want it and this actually comes from evolutionary biology
00:52:46.340
so evolutionary biologists will say that people want you know this ratio of people who know you
00:52:52.100
versus the people you know you want that to be really really high because you're more likely if
00:52:56.580
you're you know troglodyte 500 000 years ago you're more likely to get more baits if you have prestige
00:53:02.280
the problem is in the current world we've taken the ability to become famous to these incredible
00:53:08.600
heights you know we can you can anybody can be a celebrity on youtube if you just do it right and so
00:53:14.380
the result is that our brains are saying get more famous get more famous and yet everybody you talk
00:53:19.580
to who's achieved fame they'll say i can only ever be happy in spite of it but i keep running toward it
00:53:26.500
i can't i mean you have the presence of mind because you're actually somebody who has battled idolatry
00:53:31.940
who's battled addiction but these are these are real addictions money power pleasure fame these are real
00:53:37.440
addictions you beat it once and so you know what it looks like you know what the monster looks like
00:53:42.080
and that guy you know it's like trying to get in your house all the time so you say
00:53:45.240
yeah i'm going to go do something else and it's i really admired that when you did it because i knew
00:53:50.460
what you were doing because i knew you and i said boy glenn is really has presence of mind this is this
00:53:56.300
is it was very adroit and it's really weird arthur because our kids are they're just pursuing fame
00:54:04.420
they do the youtube facebook they're they're all of society is teaching us the exact opposite
00:54:12.720
um and it's encouraging it and they're looking for fame and i'm telling you i think you're you're
00:54:19.900
absolutely right that it's the worst one it's battery acid to the soul and even when even when you
00:54:26.860
when you recognize that as you as you become less famous or whatever you're there's something in you
00:54:36.800
that's like don't no don't no no no and it's crazy you're gonna die yeah it's crazy it's really crazy
00:54:45.260
for sure and most people you know even adults who are not trying to become youtube stars what they want
00:54:51.580
is this admiration so it's a it's a form of local fame called prestige i want the right people to
00:54:58.100
admire me and it's just the admiration of people that people will they crave so much and they work
00:55:03.560
so hard to get and you recognize that at the end of the day the people who admire you they don't care
00:55:08.240
if you die they don't care and if and if you if you it's why i think there are so many people that
00:55:17.180
are unwilling to speak out on things like the me too movement me too movement it's good it we need
00:55:25.120
the balance you know we it's made some good things but it's also been just battery acid on on liberties
00:55:33.300
and and justice and and truth and people will just line up to just parrot whatever it is because
00:55:41.020
they don't want to lose their prestige they don't want to be a pariah nobody wants to be a pariah
00:55:46.660
yeah you want to it tends to turn people into pleasers and you know i'm going to serve you know
00:55:53.520
the the trivial desires of other people it'll it'll basically take away your dignity in the end
00:55:59.260
because you know you know whether fox news or msnbc or whatever still these are profit-making
00:56:03.840
organizations so they'll just try you out man again and again and again they'll say they'll
00:56:08.240
basically instrumentalize glint beck and you're not an instrument you're a human being you're a child of
00:56:13.660
god you have dignity and only you at the end of the day and a few other people you know your spouse
00:56:20.320
your kids your friends are the people who will stand up for your dignity that's why when you stood
00:56:25.740
up for your own dignity and said i'm going to go my own way i admired it so much and you know each one
00:56:30.240
of us most people were listening to you i mean they they follow you they admire you they take your
00:56:34.760
lead they love your leadership and they say well yeah it was different i mean glenn and arthur have a
00:56:39.580
different kind of life than i do especially glenn he's a big famous guy every single person faces
00:56:44.040
these decisions all the time we face decisions constantly am i going to sell myself for a symbol
00:56:50.160
of myself or am i going to remember who i am and and and hue to that it's really important that all of
00:56:57.100
us have this we we sell our soul we become that hollywood star or whatever every time we edit a picture
00:57:08.080
of our life or we take the perfect picture of our life and post it on facebook and don't post what
00:57:14.940
really is going on you know what i mean we don't you don't see your life a mess everybody is is skewing
00:57:23.340
it which makes things worse for you because you're not living that life uh and it makes it worse for
00:57:29.780
everybody else because they're like well they're living that life and i'm not it's horrible it's horrible
00:57:35.240
you're setting up your you're sit you're advertising your fake life and consuming the fake lives of
00:57:39.640
others yeah i got something's gonna blow your mind actually um on this because i've been okay wait
00:57:43.420
wait wait research on that you got we gotta go right they give yeah give it give me one minute and we'll
00:57:48.160
come right back with what's going to blow our minds uh more with uh arthur brooks in just a second
00:57:53.960
great guy really super smart we and i want to talk to him about the free market in the economy if we can
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all right arthur blow our mind yeah man so i've been studying the effects of social media on
00:59:31.480
happiness and i really admire the work of a social psychologist at san diego state university
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gene twenge t-w-e-n-g-e so people can go google her work she's there she's really the leading authority
00:59:44.640
on loneliness and social media okay so i talked in the last segment about oxytocin this neurotransmitter
00:59:51.660
that gives us pleasure when we connect with other people it comes from eye contact and touch that's one
00:59:57.720
of the reasons we're craving it during the lockdown not enough eye contact not enough touch when people
01:00:03.260
want it what do they do they turn to the second best substitute which is social media to get more
01:00:10.060
of this oxytocin they don't know they're craving it but they're going for it it's kind of like when
01:00:14.000
you're hungry and you reach for a burger and fries or a candy bar one of the main reasons for the obesity
01:00:19.680
problem in america is too many calories per nutrient purpose of the calories and nutrient ratio is all goofed
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up so you get too many calories not enough nutrients your body stays hungry to get the nutrients
01:00:31.100
the same thing with social media social media is social junk food you want oxytocin you go online
01:00:37.960
not enough eye contact not enough touch which means it's just a trickle of this hormone that your
01:00:42.680
their brain is craving and so you binge on it now the research shows that less than 30 minutes a day
01:00:49.580
it makes you happier because you're connecting to your friendships it is to say it's a compliment
01:00:53.980
but more than 30 minutes a day becomes a substitute for your relationships and every hour you spend on it
01:01:00.420
you will get lonelier so this is a mind-blowing thing you get on it to be less lonely but it
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makes you lonelier in much the same way that you can end up getting hungrier from eating the wrong
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food that's not nutrient dense so what we need to do if we want to be happier you got to get a new
01:01:16.760
technology get off social media and half an hour a day max time it out across all platforms and turn
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it off then after that the only technology we should be using to connect is stuff like zoom
01:01:28.900
and skype and facetime where we can get eye contact with somebody else and we'll get our oxytocin
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i i have to tell you arthur i hate i don't carry a phone i hate talking on the phone but i love
01:01:41.960
facetime everybody makes fun of me because if you're going to call glenn you got to facetime
01:01:45.900
uh and i just i love it because i feel like i'm having a real conversation on the phone it's just
01:01:53.020
i don't know i just it doesn't work for me i hate it well it makes perfect sense because you're you're
01:01:58.980
a true people person you know you're a person you have a lot of love for other people it comes through
01:02:05.080
in your show it's come through everything that you've done and just a minute with you and your feet
01:02:10.340
you feel like you're with somebody who loves you this is a great gift by the way it's a wonderful
01:02:14.980
thing it's an apostolate submission actually but that also means that you're going to be most prone
01:02:20.360
to these oxytocin deficits you're going to be most prone to feeling like garbage when you're too
01:02:26.120
isolated and that means that you're a perfect case for somebody who has to use this technology to get
01:02:31.400
eye contact all right we're going to come back with um with arthur brooks um we're going to continue
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a little bit more on this and we want to talk about how do we get back to a free economy
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we're with arthur c brooks one of my favorite people uh in the world and i think i figured it
01:04:23.860
out why he is uh he's very good at flattery and uh which translates in my case to a very good liar
01:04:30.300
uh and he just makes you feel good when you are around him uh and i hope you feel that as well
01:04:37.780
he is he's he's teaching uh truth uh on in at harvard on leadership and and fulfillment and we're
01:04:49.860
talking to him about the three equations for a happy life and the the second equation is um uh let me see
01:04:59.560
if i can get it here it's uh satisfaction equals no no that's that's equation three where is it here
01:05:04.760
it is uh habits equal faith family friends plus work um and you say it's kind of like a a bank if you
01:05:14.380
you you gotta make these into habits and you gotta you gotta make a deposit in each of those accounts
01:05:20.980
really every day and i arthur i find that almost impossible to do it's hard to do it's interesting you
01:05:28.280
know during the break because we took four or five minutes and and while we were in the break i
01:05:32.360
checked my messages and i'm getting i'm just getting bombarded by people because now it's
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really easy to get my email or on social media asking it's like i didn't have a pencil when we
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wrote that down before so so let me tell people real quickly how you can get this stuff so you can
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just enjoy my conversation with glenn but at the same time you can get this stuff so glenn is referring
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to an article in the atlantic i have a column in the atlantic which is the atlantic.com called how to
01:05:57.540
build a life and so if you just look for the atlantic in my column it comes out every other
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thursday and i have a podcast where i talk about all this stuff full time called the art of happiness
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so go through the art of happiness with arthur brooks and just subscribe to the podcast it's free
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and go read the articles in atlantic it's free and now just enjoy my conversation with glenn sorry for
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the advertisement glenn but that's how people can actually no no no that's that i should have been
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doing that for you um uh i i also before you hang up i just leave with my producer i want to get the
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name of the uh the person in san diego um but oh gene twenge t-w-e-n-g-e and so yeah and that's
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great yep yep okay um all right family faith friends and work i have the hardest time
01:06:43.780
it's impossible to balance i've been trying to just to you know bring them all together as much as
01:06:50.660
i can but i'm always shortchanging something i know and the thing that we tend to not shortchange
01:06:57.900
guys like you and me and a lot of people listening to us is work you know it's because that's what we
01:07:03.380
do you never was like yeah i forgot to go to work today but you'll always say i forgot my prayers
01:07:08.120
today i forgot to call my mom today i forgot to call i mean it's like they think about it i mean you
01:07:12.800
and i are like i love glenn back and you're like i want to talk to arthur brooks it's six months
01:07:17.040
between our conversations that shouldn't be i know not just because it's good for us to do the
01:07:21.420
show together but because we're friends so here's how we do it and this is the opportunity of the
01:07:27.020
covet 19 epidemic this is what we a lot of us are in lockdown i'm in boston so you know there's like
01:07:32.900
stay under the bed you know be very afraid we're not getting this i was just talking to a friend of
01:07:37.840
mine in idaho just sent me a message and he's out working on a fence so they have more freedom out
01:07:42.420
there but one way or the other we're we're more locked down than we used to be so what do we do
01:07:48.360
with that we have to set up our own schedule start at the beginning of the day putting together your
01:07:52.840
schedule not put together for you and put all four of those accounts in the schedule you know it's like
01:07:58.440
look i'm going to say my prayers i'm going to do it today so i'm catholic you know you're latter-day
01:08:03.560
saint we have norms of things that we do you know i say my rosary every day it goes in my schedule
01:08:09.460
i pray my rosary you know it's like it's really important you should actually have an hour at the
01:08:15.580
end of the day where i'm going to face time with these two people right and put it into your schedule
01:08:21.440
so so we're you're taking as seriously your faith and your family and your friendships because
01:08:26.700
look we we neglect this stuff at our peril if you put all of your happiness into work just like putting
01:08:32.220
your whole pension into greek bonds uh it might work out but i don't recommend it right i will tell
01:08:41.880
you the one thing that i have gotten from this lockdown i am fortunate enough i live next door
01:08:46.740
my kids live next door to me uh my older kids uh and so we've been locked down as a family and
01:08:54.500
just the interaction of me finishing and i'll walk over to their house after the show and i'll be like
01:09:00.560
hey what's happening and play with the grandkids just 15 minutes and then coming back and then
01:09:05.560
seeing them later in the day my world is so balanced right now i'm going to really miss it when i go
01:09:13.980
you know back to work for sure for sure absolutely and if you only do work whereas work is a good thing
01:09:21.120
again two characteristics of work to bring you happiness not fame not power not money i mean that
01:09:27.000
stuff can be okay but it should be about serving others and earning your success this is by the way
01:09:32.820
this is the psychological basis of why i love democratic capitalism because democratic capitalism
01:09:39.020
the capitalist system which i know we're going to try to get to in this hour is the only system that
01:09:43.540
allows people to earn their success on a mass basis you know the the beck family didn't come on some
01:09:49.560
boat in the late 19th century saying it sure will be great to get to america where there's a better
01:09:54.460
system of forced income redistribution i mean the becks are like i'm ambitious riffraff i want to build
01:10:00.880
my life and you know earning success serving others that's the secret to to happiness through work and if
01:10:07.400
we don't we don't actually pay attention to that right it is also i think the secret to why our capitalist
01:10:15.960
system is not functioning the way it should because uh it is seeking now and and giving uh you know how
01:10:26.140
to be powerful how to be famous uh you know uh how to make money when capitalism really works or the free
01:10:33.420
market really works it is the best charity system out there because i sit at home and i think how can i serve
01:10:40.840
people how can i make their life better how can i how can i what can i create that will help them with
01:10:47.380
their life and if you have that moral sentiment of wanting to help people you'll get rich their life
01:10:55.640
will be uh you know uh easier and you'll be fulfilled i mean it's just a great system absolutely
01:11:05.020
unless unless we're pursuing the wrong four goals it was money we're in trouble if it's faith family
01:11:12.360
friends and work that serves others we're in our success then everything actually falls into place
01:11:17.560
and and one of the things is you know you talk about culture a lot on your show um and and you talk
01:11:23.240
about it really compellingly because there's a sort of a sense of regret of what we lose as a society
01:11:28.520
not because we move away from capitalism but because because markets require morals that we
01:11:34.840
actually have to have well-ordered moral sentiments or the capitalist system won't even work you know
01:11:39.920
some people think that you set the markets free and everything's gonna be fine that's wrong that's
01:11:44.220
actually wrong unless we have our priorities in order as human beings made to serve each other
01:11:49.800
lift each other up to see the adventure in life basically it's this each one of us has a startup
01:11:56.380
it's called our life that's the the enterprise of life i mean by the way you were leading your you
01:12:04.060
were doing your startup when you left fox news you didn't know what you're going to do i didn't know
01:12:08.320
you're going to wind up in a warehouse outside of outside of dallas making this new empire but you
01:12:14.320
were treating blend back inc as a startup because that's the true adventure of life but that comes
01:12:19.620
from a certain way of seeing life and that's not good enough if it's money power pleasure and fame
01:12:24.720
so let me talk about the free market um and and how we can navigate these tough times arthur i think
01:12:33.800
you'll agree these are what we are going into are going to be the roughest economically of of our
01:12:41.060
lifetime uh this is probably going back to depression um and we we can do it although i don't think we
01:12:50.380
we have enough people in washington that believe in the american people to free them uh and we are
01:12:58.440
doing all kinds of things that go against the free market i i've been pushing for america to be called
01:13:05.140
an uh an economic uh what what was it uh stew an economic uh empowerment zone that we are that that we
01:13:14.460
relax some of these things and encourage people to get back to work but i think the opposite
01:13:20.780
is is also being pushed how do we how do we navigate these without eating each other
01:13:27.560
and uh and without losing our freedoms well to begin with we should remember i mean people are saying
01:13:36.660
that this is an indictment of capitalism what's actually happening during the covet 19 epidemic and
01:13:41.460
that's of course ridiculous i mean that that i know i mean the whole you know what's going on
01:13:46.080
today within a moribund economy and you know people not being able to do what they need to do with
01:13:51.720
their work that's like any tuesday in socialism you know this is the exception to the rule and
01:13:58.800
capitalism and it's worth pointing out that only capitalism is going to save us nobody thinks that
01:14:04.660
some dictatorship is going to develop the covet 19 vaccine that's coming from capitalism you know we
01:14:10.860
may be messy we may be you know like protesting all the time and not being able to get along sure
01:14:17.320
that's because we have a lot of freedom but we will solve this crisis and we will solve it for the rest
01:14:22.600
of the world mark my words now what do we need to remember about ourselves remember about our culture
01:14:27.500
it's very important for us to remember that only we can save our economy from what has happened and that
01:14:33.120
requires each of us to put our oar in the water you know the whole idea that the government is going
01:14:38.240
to be able to support people forever isn't saying you know i'm glad that we have public policies that
01:14:42.800
can create a safety net i'm a big believer in the safety and i love the safety net but only capitalism
01:14:47.920
made the safety net possible you know the first time in history we've been able to take care of
01:14:52.780
our brothers and sisters in need that we haven't met that's because of the largesse and wealth that
01:14:57.380
actually comes from the capitalist system it's also the case that you know we will come out of this
01:15:02.340
and the only reason we're going to come out of this is because of hard work and human endeavor
01:15:06.260
and the startup of our own lives you know getting that going again and so we must not stand in the
01:15:11.360
way of that as a government or as a people so when you know everybody's talking about opening up the
01:15:17.900
economy etc and i i think i under i reread uh fdr's uh only thing to fear fear itself speech um uh just uh
01:15:26.740
what a couple of nights ago and i think we're in the same place where really it is our fear um that
01:15:34.100
is is stopping us uh and fear is being preached everywhere now how do we open this up what do we i
01:15:43.300
mean because we got to get back into doing stuff but people are are afraid and in some ways rightfully
01:15:51.840
so yeah no the fear comes from uncertainty you know if we actually knew what the possible outcomes are
01:15:58.440
and had probabilities on them we could insure against that's called risk the whole insurance
01:16:02.960
industry right but there's no that insurance you can't find insurance policy against uncertainty and
01:16:08.080
that a little part of the brain called the amygdala that gets stimulated and gives you you know
01:16:12.880
discomfort when you're and it kept you alive i mean all of us are alive today because we jump out of
01:16:17.760
the way of a moving car but when it's chronically stimulated by our circumstances we're we're fearful
01:16:23.240
we're unhappy and we're uncomfortable and that's what's going on okay now here's the here's the
01:16:28.260
solution here's the antidote you know and again i'm an economist but i wind up doing this the happiness
01:16:35.020
work because it's more fulfilling at the end of the day and one of the things that we know is that the
01:16:41.240
opposite of fear is love people think that love and hatred are opposites they're not hatred is
01:16:46.900
downstream from fear so when you have too much fear in your life and a lot of people are really
01:16:51.220
fearful the answer is not to try to stomp out the fear you need to drown it in love and so this is
01:16:58.320
what we actually need is it gets back to the early part of our conversation about oxytocin and loneliness
01:17:03.260
and relationships and faith and family and friends it all comes into this you know seamless garment of
01:17:09.000
truth which is that if we feel fear we need more love and that's the only thing that's going to solve the
01:17:15.540
problems and this is why martin luther king won yeah that's right you know we have a fear he was
01:17:23.460
he was preaching love when yeah yeah go ahead yeah and you know right now you know we have very much
01:17:29.020
of a fear-based politics and it proceeds pretty predictably from the 2008 financial crisis where
01:17:35.680
a lot of politicians are basically saying you know be afraid of the other guy you know somebody's got
01:17:41.000
your stuff and i'm going to get it back you know and i understand that rhetoric but it can't last
01:17:45.040
forever ultimately i mean look you and i have strong views we're free marketeers we believe in
01:17:51.720
you know a better society and we promote the american military because america is a force for good in the
01:17:57.040
world and all that but it's on the basis of the love for our society the love for our country love for
01:18:02.000
each other and indeed even the love for the people who disagree with us politically and people around
01:18:07.580
the world who disagree with us it's not based on fear of anything i mean america is not a fearful
01:18:13.020
country and so that's what we need all of us in leadership positions which includes by the way
01:18:17.240
not just glenn and arthur but every single person who's listening is a leader you have the leadership
01:18:23.200
capability use it for love and you will be part uh part of the reason that we solved the crisis from
01:18:29.620
the covet 19 epidemic uh arthur brooks um his series is in the atlantic how to build a life uh you can
01:18:38.320
uh also follow him at arthurbrooks.com he has a podcast the art of happiness that is well worth your
01:18:45.220
time and if you are at home and you've watched everything on netflix you think you haven't seen one
01:18:51.460
of the best uh documentaries i think made on the free market and it is called the pursuit
01:18:58.880
um and it's it's by arthur and he takes you all around the world and it is you want to debunk of
01:19:05.240
the socialism in sweden watch the pursuit watch that on netflix um arthur thank you and uh let's uh
01:19:14.220
let's not have six months between our next conversation thank you so much i agree glenn god bless you god
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oh yeah dog and that just makes you uncomfortable doesn't it when i say that uh welcome and uh and uh
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and welcome to wednesday it's the glenbeck program tonight we are doing an expose on uh joe biden and
01:23:17.800
tara reed you're gonna have to decide you know who's telling the truth and what do you do with that
01:23:26.600
when you don't know for sure well we'll uh talk about that tonight but i want to introduce you
01:23:33.360
uh to the seven accusers stew says there's nine but let's go through them one by one and tara reed
01:23:43.980
uh as well because voters three to one say the press should be covering this and they're not
01:23:51.360
three to one in the latest poll joe biden is our topic in one minute this is the glenbeck program
01:24:00.580
so i'm going to tell you that i put my money where my mouth is um yesterday i called and uh i acquired
01:24:12.540
some of gold lines uh five dollar liberty coins they were minted in 1901 they have a very small
01:24:19.180
amount of these um but they are they're quarter ounce coins uh gold according to bank of america
01:24:27.640
jp morgan and goldman sachs three sources now all say that they expect gold in 21 in 2021 or 2022
01:24:37.920
to be about three thousand dollars an ounce that's double where it is now um i don't buy it as an
01:24:45.700
investment i will tell you at three thousand dollars an ounce the world has gone insane it's gone insane
01:24:51.940
that's the only reason why gold goes up is because nobody has trust in anything else is the world
01:24:57.580
getting more sane or less sane are we doing things to strengthen our dollar or hurt our dollar um uh
01:25:04.760
can you see the the the trust level is it getting better or worse you answer those three questions
01:25:11.940
depending on how you answer is how fast you will call gold line because if you think all of those
01:25:17.980
things are going in the wrong direction you should buy gold because bank of america and goldman sachs
01:25:23.520
and everybody else could be right and this is a great way to get you know you're not going to go in
01:25:28.060
and buy groceries with a with an ounce of gold hey i want a part of this and here's this three thousand
01:25:33.960
dollar coin for whatever this is why these historic five dollar gold liberty coins are so important
01:25:41.100
they're quarter ounce and they're historic ask them for details on why that's why i buy them the way i do
01:25:48.320
i don't buy bullion i i i buy old coins i am i'm a collector uh federal government that's what i'm doing
01:25:55.800
anyway um in other news the u.s mint in new york is still shut down there is a shortage of gold around
01:26:03.800
the world but gold line has their uh gold and can ship uh anywhere right now call gold line 866 gold
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voters three to one say the national media is not aggressive enough reporting joe biden's sexual assault
01:26:29.440
allegations when you look at another poll a new poll out shows 26 percent now of democrats
01:26:38.780
want joe biden to be replaced because of this 26 percent say he's gotta go so let's break this
01:26:47.300
poll down here for a second before we get into the facts 61 percent of democrats believe that biden
01:26:52.860
appeared very credible or somewhat credible during his interview with morning joe where he
01:26:59.320
denied the allegations 61 percent of democrats somewhat credible six only 61 percent when you
01:27:14.180
when you have 40 percent of the american democratic party saying i he's not credible on this do you have
01:27:25.160
a viable candidate honestly 26 percent of the democratic party would move to replace biden after watching
01:27:33.960
the video 61 percent say they found his denial at least somewhat critical uh credible and should remain
01:27:42.660
the nominee the number includes 28 percent of democratic women uh only 28 percent say that he should remain
01:27:53.080
really younger women voters are the most likely to want biden replaced as the presumptive nominee
01:28:00.180
of the democratic party 40 percent of voters under 45 agreeing that she he should be replaced
01:28:06.880
40 percent under 45 and 15 percent of older voters say he should be replaced among general voters
01:28:16.980
so this would include the the republicans and the the independents if you don't get independence you don't win
01:28:25.020
among general voters only 41 percent say they found his denials somewhat credible or very credible
01:28:33.980
versus 38 percent that say it's not credible at all this is going to be a problem because he's badly polarized
01:28:45.980
um on this and you know when you have two candidates and they're both polarized you don't usually make a change
01:28:55.140
you're like i'm not going to change horses i know what this guy is and i may not like this guy but i know what this guy is
01:29:01.620
and we're fine if you don't believe that you know we're fine under donald trump well then you're going to vote
01:29:09.020
for really probably anybody um but when you have two guys and one is joe biden and it's of the democratic party
01:29:21.100
it exposes the democratic party for who they are it exposes the media for who they are and it would expose you
01:29:29.900
i think there's i think there is 25 to 50 percent of the voting public 50 is too high 25 to 35 percent
01:29:38.820
of voters in america that would go you know what i i just i i'm not going to sell me out this is it bothers me
01:29:48.200
and we'll pass on him that's going to be a problem yeah i think people will overlook a lot
01:29:56.020
when casting a vote here a lot of people have their minds made up on trump you know this is a
01:30:01.620
pretty partisan country at this moment um you know we've been even seeing evidence lately of people
01:30:07.040
coming out and saying i believe tara reed and her assault accusation but i'm still going to be voting
01:30:13.160
for joe biden which is what are you saying about yourself when you're saying hey you know who would
01:30:18.580
be okay for me to endorse as a candidate a rapist that is a uh that's a it's a hell of a standard
01:30:25.320
to set for yourself yeah if you believe unlike i mean what donald trump said you know on that bus
01:30:31.960
uh years ago was really offensive but that was really sick over the top guy talk now that doesn't
01:30:42.940
mean that that didn't it did he you know he said that's what he did but you know right guys say a lot
01:30:48.700
of stuff but this is the accusation is from a woman that joe actually did that uh and and then some
01:30:59.260
yeah i mean that's a real problem i know of zero trump supporters who voted for donald trump that
01:31:06.920
believe those allegations that he committed sexual assault that you might have this idea that oh well
01:31:12.740
they're fooling themselves into believing trump that's fine but at least they're doing the work on
01:31:17.860
that uh you know democrats at this point are like yeah you know he's probably a rapist but i don't
01:31:21.800
really like donald trump so uh i'm gonna vote for the rapist and i think like there's donald trump it
01:31:27.320
was i don't i don't like i don't like the way he talks i don't like what he said i don't but it's
01:31:33.280
not the allegation that was believable uh of what joe biden is being accused of yeah i mean there is
01:31:41.180
a difference here there were allegations against trump as the left likes to point out in these moments but
01:31:46.420
you know look you have to do your own work and try to believe what you believe um i think the issue
01:31:51.980
here is a candidate as you get close to an election is you can't have major reasons for people to not
01:32:00.260
vote for you in this environment and yes the democrats they'll deny this all day but the
01:32:06.160
democrats already have the idea in their head that joe biden doesn't seem capable of doing this job
01:32:12.420
that is already there they don't think donald trump is capable either so it's they're able to hold on
01:32:17.820
to their vote for biden right now but if you start piling these things on top of each other
01:32:22.560
he's incompetent he may have actually sexually assaulted a woman and now is doing all the things
01:32:28.120
that we said were terrible all the scrutiny about her character all these questions about her claims
01:32:34.480
all of these things that are going on now that you have set the standard that we're not all these
01:32:40.780
these things should not even be allowed in polite society as of two weeks ago and now you're having
01:32:46.700
to justify and backtrack on all these things that you said people hate doing that and so they're
01:32:51.640
trying to find their little pathway into continuing to be able to justify this vote for biden and if you
01:32:58.880
keep piling things like this on top of each other they're not going to be able to find it
01:33:02.180
yeah well they they will find another reason nobody wants to admit that the standard that they've been
01:33:09.660
holding up that has destroyed people's lives is the wrong standard nobody wants to be that wrong
01:33:15.720
um only the real brave will so they will find another reason uh and it could just be the straw that breaks
01:33:24.440
the camel's back i mean if you look at i have the eight accusers in front of me you have uh amy cole
01:33:32.460
uh helping run a reception for about 50 people in 2008 biden arrived she introduced uh they introduced
01:33:39.300
him to her he leaned in squeezed her shoulders and delivered a compliment about her smile holding her
01:33:45.260
for a beat too long um okay i think he's just kind of a creepy dude uh that doesn't that's not assault
01:33:52.640
number seven amy lapos former congressional aide uh democratic political activist claimed that during
01:33:59.140
the 2009 political fundraiser or fundraiser in greenwich he touched her inappropriately she said
01:34:06.300
it wasn't sexual but he grabbed me by the head he put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub
01:34:12.520
noses with me when he was pulling me in i thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth i never filed a
01:34:18.920
complaint to be honest because it was the vice president and i'm a nobody wow is that a problem
01:34:24.440
uh caitlin caruso said four years ago the age of 19 uh survivor of sexual assault spoke at an event
01:34:32.600
on sexual assault university of las vegas when biden was attending um after she shared her experience
01:34:39.480
of sexual assault biden rested his hand on her thigh even though he squirmed she squirmed in her seat
01:34:47.200
to show her discomfort he hugged her just a little too long it doesn't even really cross your mind that
01:34:53.600
such a person would dare uh perpetrate harm like that she said these are supposed to be the people
01:34:59.440
that you can trust okay so again just inappropriate and possibly just a creepy dude but not sexual
01:35:09.020
assault also consistent with each other right like all these all of these are very consistent yeah and
01:35:14.400
and all of the pictures you know of him sniffing hair and saying really creepy things to girls
01:35:21.060
but that again is you have to make the decision is that just an old man who this because this is his
01:35:29.320
excuse look i grew up in a different age blah blah blah i i'm sorry i even if i buy that grandpa
01:35:38.640
you know you can't continue to do that you know when everybody had somebody in their in their family
01:35:47.700
growing up i mean depending on your age if you're at least my age you had somebody growing up uh that
01:35:54.680
was you know older in the 60s in the 70s and they were still like you know talking about colors uh you
01:36:02.340
know or whatever and you know they may not have had any malice it's just the world they grew up in
01:36:08.580
and at some point you were like grandpa stop saying that you gotta stop saying that you know and this
01:36:15.640
time grandpa's going to be the president of the united states and we keep saying to him hey stop
01:36:22.060
hugging people rubbing noses with them and saying really creepy things to girls he just won't stop
01:36:29.460
that's the problem so then you have a former white house intern she said she was there in 2013 she was
01:36:36.080
trying to exit the basement of the west wing when she was asked to step aside biden uh approached her
01:36:43.020
uh shook her hand and introduced himself during the encounter she said biden put his hand on the back
01:36:49.680
of my head and pressed his forehead to my forehead and said what a pretty girl
01:36:56.600
oof grandpa stop uh lucy flores uh wrote an essay she was working for biden in 2014 just before speeches
01:37:09.320
we were ushered to the side of the stage where we were lined up for introduction i was taking deep
01:37:14.880
breaths and preparing myself to make my case to the crowd i felt two hands on my shoulders i froze
01:37:20.780
why is the vice president of the united states touching me i felt him get closer to me from behind
01:37:25.980
he leaned further in and inhaled my hair i was mortified i thought to myself i didn't even wash my
01:37:31.960
hair today and the vice president is smelling it and also what in the actual f why is he doing this
01:37:39.160
she said my brain couldn't process what was happening i was embarrassed i was shocked i was confused
01:37:44.640
um then you have the next accuser sophie sophie was one of 50 sexual assault survivors she appeared on
01:37:52.680
stage with lady gaga at the oscars blah blah blah when met uh and heard about her you know uh her
01:38:01.080
experiences he responded by clasping her hands and leaning down to place his forehead against hers
01:38:07.380
the moment was photographed and went viral uh she said he just crossed the boundary into my personal
01:38:14.460
space at a very sensitive moment he emphasized that he wanted to connect with people and of course that's
01:38:20.180
important but then again all of our interactions and friendships are two-way street too often it doesn't
01:38:25.680
matter how the woman feels okay so all of those are things that you could dismiss you could just say
01:38:31.060
okay grandpa stop it you could dismiss that but those things added on top of what tara reed said
01:38:37.960
and some of the other accusers now that are coming out because there's a couple of other that 14 year
01:38:43.240
old girl whose i think mother said no it was the wrong year maybe but remember you facts don't even matter
01:38:52.500
they didn't even know where the house was or anything else uh with uh uh with what's her name on
01:39:00.060
kavanaugh they they had nothing they didn't know the date they didn't know the year this 14 year old girl
01:39:05.880
said she was really uh humiliated in lockstep with the others tara reeds is the only one that steps out and is
01:39:15.620
out of the norm uh to where it's an actual assault and it's a bad description of an assault now the media
01:39:24.180
won't tell you um both sides of this story they won't look at this honestly and say okay so who is
01:39:32.540
tara reed what are the what are the conditions that have to be met you know to be credible uh who's
01:39:40.320
joe biden and was he there all of these things we've done uh our homework and i can't give you an
01:39:47.280
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01:39:54.940
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all right so what was it a week ago we had shelly luther on she was uh this woman who opened
01:42:30.480
her salon in dallas texas uh because she was about to lose her business uh she couldn't hold
01:42:38.260
out any longer and uh her stylists many of them were hurting now not all of them returned they were
01:42:45.000
doing social distancing they were wearing masks everything else but a judge in dallas uh said no
01:42:52.260
and issued a cease and desist and she was on television she said no i'm sorry i'm keeping my
01:42:58.220
business open and uh she tore that cease and desist in half well that pissed the judge off
01:43:04.940
we're going to play some audio for you from the court hearing yesterday she's in jail today for
01:43:10.560
opening her business by the way salons can open monday so she was about 10 days ahead she's in jail
01:43:17.740
today and when you hear the judge what an egomaniac and out of touch in my opinion um but uh we we have
01:43:28.000
her attorney on to find out you know what's in store now what's what's happening and to get his take
01:43:33.880
uh on all of this we'd like to talk to her but she's in jail what is happening to texas good heavens
01:43:43.560
and if it's happening in texas i can't even imagine what your life is like in michigan or virginia or
01:43:50.280
california i could go on new york connecticut i mean what is life like we have got to get back
01:43:59.560
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take you to a court in dallas yesterday um this is uh in the bizarre trial uh of of a woman who just
01:46:02.480
tried to open up her her salon here in dallas because she was about to lose her salon uh she
01:46:09.820
couldn't keep it closed any longer and uh many of the stylists uh were really having a hard time
01:46:17.480
finding enough money to be able to feed their families so she opened it up last uh uh last um
01:46:24.500
um um what else to say sorry i'm so distracted on something else uh she she opened it up last week
01:46:32.360
she got a cease and desist uh she tore the cease and desist up and said i'm sorry i'm going to
01:46:37.940
i have a right to keep my shop open she went to trial and here's what the judge said to her yesterday
01:46:46.740
listen to this that you now see the error of your ways and understand that the society cannot function
01:46:55.540
where one's own belief in a concept of liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings
01:47:02.200
of duly elected officials that you owe an apology to the elected officials whom you disrespected
01:47:09.900
disrespected but flagrantly ignoring and in one case defiling their orders which you now know
01:47:20.240
that you understand that the proper way in which in or in an ordered society to engage concerns which
01:47:29.220
you may have had is to hire a lawyer and advocate for change an exception or an amendment to laws that
01:47:36.780
that you find offensive that you publicly state that this is the way that citizens in the state
01:47:44.460
should behave and that you represent to this court that you will today cease operation of your salon
01:47:53.340
and not reopen until after further orders of this of the government permit you to do so
01:48:00.620
this court will consider the payment of a fine in lieu of the incarceration
01:48:05.580
which you've demonstrated that you have so clearly earned is there anything that you would like to say
01:48:11.040
so uh that's what she she had to do uh and she responded with this judge i would like to say that i
01:48:23.820
and that i've never been in this position before and it's not some place that i want to be
01:48:33.540
but i have to disagree with you sir when i when you say that i'm selfish because feeding my kids
01:48:42.880
is not selfish i have hairstylists that are going hungry because they'd rather feed their kids
01:48:50.480
so sir if you think the law is more important than kids getting fed
01:48:55.440
then please go ahead with your decision but i am not going to shut the salon
01:48:59.660
okay stop so she she he wanted an apology that's what he wanted
01:49:07.120
and uh she's sitting in jail now today her attorney is with us
01:49:13.080
warren norad uh he is the attorney who was by her side yesterday how first of all how is she today
01:49:20.860
have you talked to her not had a chance to talk to her we're in the process of setting that up
01:49:26.420
sitting in her account set up it takes a few minutes when somebody first goes to jail
01:49:29.580
and there's no there's no bail right no there's no bail and so our we have a remedy and the remedy
01:49:37.700
is the sole remedy is a writ of habeas corpus and so we're in the process of writing that and then
01:49:43.880
we'll file an emergency motion to set bail uh before the supreme court and that'll i hope to have
01:49:49.640
that filed this afternoon so have you ever seen a judge say apologize or i'm sending you to jail
01:49:56.000
i have never seen that you know it reminds me of the that you gotta bend the knee you know this is
01:50:02.160
about heresy this is not about the rule of law you have stood before this court and found guilty of
01:50:08.700
disrespect uh even though and it's one one thing is she was saying no i don't like you i don't think
01:50:14.020
that you have any authority and and you know but that's not it this is somebody is she's a humble
01:50:19.440
woman she's had you know in situations like this you see a lot of egos go crazy but she's been
01:50:23.960
she's been great and she understands where she is and she understands she's the tip of the spear
01:50:28.900
you know she represents hundreds of people that are in the same exact boat because politicians are
01:50:35.080
passing laws by executive authority instead of the standard normal procedure what they're supposed to
01:50:39.960
use so they're not following the rule of law but she's supposed to right and so because she didn't
01:50:46.740
break a law did she i mean these aren't laws that have been passed what what what did they convict her
01:50:54.180
on this is a good question they they they say that she's breaking the the what they're calling an
01:51:00.980
ordinance but it's the fourth amended emergency regulations that's passed by nobody but simply
01:51:08.360
uttered by the mayor of dallas which is and he gets his authority supposedly by leaning on
01:51:14.740
the county judge clay jenkins who gets his authority supposedly by leaning on the executive
01:51:19.420
order of the governor so all of these people are passing up and down this this nebulous authority
01:51:25.720
when our constitution in the state of texas says article 4 section 8 if you want to deal with disease
01:51:32.180
threat and it uses that clause disease threat in the constitution you call a special session you make
01:51:37.800
all the laws you want it does not say what they're all doing is they're all going to the disaster act
01:51:42.140
in 1975 that delegated a bunch of power in the case of emergency um and it's it's far it's far too
01:51:50.180
far gone and one thing it's one thing if we had this going for just a few seconds a few days
01:51:54.040
even a week or two but now we're two months into this at some point we have to go back to the rule of
01:51:59.120
law for the government not just for us i weren't i have to tell you i i don't know what's uh
01:52:07.140
what's happening to us as a nation uh and i i think we are headed for real trouble because
01:52:14.040
it's one thing to say like you said for a couple of weeks and then ask people look we recommend that
01:52:21.640
you do this and we just really need your cooperation and if they choose not to do it it's their right but
01:52:28.760
we these people are being forced out of business she was only what six days early 10 days early
01:52:36.700
salons open tomorrow and is it true that the go ahead well she did the problem is that or one of
01:52:46.380
the issues is that is the governor and all these people are making these rules they look at it from
01:52:50.400
the perspective of is do you need a haircut instead of looking at the perspective of do people need money
01:52:55.320
to live you know that the ag commissioner came out and had a letter that said everybody who's in the
01:53:00.380
flow of the chain of distribution of food is essential who's the last link on that chain the
01:53:06.400
person eating the food so what about his job it shouldn't that job be just as essential they're all
01:53:11.460
essential and then the problem is that is that you the executives that are making these decisions are
01:53:17.380
not thinking through what this really does to people and so you get these strange uh incongruities you
01:53:24.800
know a liquor store is essential a daycare you know where three-year-olds are eating each other's
01:53:29.920
snot that's essential and you can do all that but but to say that a a state registered hairstylist
01:53:37.560
that's 1500 hours according to the state to learn how to handle their the her clients hygienically
01:53:44.620
it's impossible no that we can't let that happen we have to put people in jail before we allow people
01:53:49.760
to earn a living so that's the problem with with law by executive order uh when you don't do things
01:53:56.820
right over a period of time and she was she was operating safely it wasn't a jam-packed salon in
01:54:03.960
fact all of the the hairstylists did not return they were wearing masks right right the general rules
01:54:11.080
wearing masks of course was really what's tragically ironic is that the cops that come in they weren't
01:54:17.020
wearing masks the first time she had to tell them no you got to put a mask on they had to go back to
01:54:20.900
their car and get the mask so yeah this this is the the rules are as i make them up as i go along
01:54:27.360
and and then we're going to decide uh how to treat you if you don't bend the knee and and follow our
01:54:33.200
rules so it's a it's a natural consequence of not following the rules for the government that they
01:54:40.120
cause laws that force other people to look like they're guilty
01:54:43.160
is it true that the governor called her just a few days ago and talked to her about uh how to open
01:54:52.280
salons or did he have any contact with her at all uh the there the governor has had agents and i'm aware
01:54:59.260
of this uh that have talked to her and there's been some interaction between uh all of those folks i
01:55:05.080
don't think that she actually talked to the governor himself but she did talk to the two agents of the
01:55:09.180
governor and and the i know that the things that we've all talked about wound up being what the
01:55:14.320
governor announced yesterday which was by itself still disappointing i mean what is the difference
01:55:18.780
between today versus friday the problem is the governor's not looking at what's really going on
01:55:23.660
there are hundreds of salons and gyms all over the state and a lot of them have called me you know
01:55:28.740
that said look can you help me out because i've got this code enforcement guy that's that's coming
01:55:33.680
by and harassing me all the time um and so those people are still left in the in the lurch for a
01:55:38.900
while um even today even even with the newest order you have 51 restaurants and bars that could
01:55:46.760
operate as a restaurant but because they have the 51 they're not allowed to operate as a restaurant
01:55:51.560
so what happened there well people create an executive order they're doing the best they can they
01:55:57.060
have a limited time and they're making mistakes and so all the all of the bar restaurants that could
01:56:02.860
operate as restaurants can't operate even though all the other normal restaurants can yeah so so you
01:56:08.640
get these incongruities because you're not passing laws if you want to pass laws you call a special
01:56:14.300
session or you just stop doing that the governor could also just say look everybody operates at 25
01:56:19.800
percent everybody operates at 25 you know because it is every uh is every daycare essential is is
01:56:28.420
every home depot essential uh all of these jobs we need these access we need access to all these
01:56:33.760
organizations but if he had simply said look everybody look at your certificate of occupancy
01:56:38.180
and whatever it says take that number to 25 of it that way you don't have to worry about about your
01:56:44.020
impact on churches because churches are impacted because that's that's rational and you're not setting
01:56:48.720
them apart that way all the essential businesses are impacted that way everybody can earn a living or at
01:56:53.680
least make some attempt to hold on but this picking and choosing where condom scents for example is
01:56:59.680
allowed to operate because they put medical devices underneath their sign i kid you not oh my gosh
01:57:04.700
oh my gosh right that's a fact okay so so liquor stores full bore do what you want so it turns into a
01:57:12.580
class snobbery the vape shops well sorry even though you're consumer electronics you get to you don't get to
01:57:18.080
operate so you get you get this vague notions of hmm it seems like the businesses i like liquor stores
01:57:25.660
because they sell my wine they get to operate but do you see liquor stores on the president's list
01:57:30.660
or on the on the governor's list no that's just something everybody's just decided we like liquor
01:57:35.020
stores and so you know there's no rhyme or reason for it so warren where is this going to go where
01:57:41.080
where i mean i think we are headed for litigation against and investigations as well i mean our
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attorney general has already said it uh he's looking into all of these cases where's this going
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it's going to depend what i want everybody to do is to remember this day and and the anger that we
01:58:00.500
feel this day when it comes time to vote in november we we all get so agitated and you get the keyboard
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warriors their man they're pounding out you know amazing sat you know pieces but when it comes
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time for ordinary people just to do something as simple as go vote in in the november elections
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in the city council elections that everybody is sleepy about you know 10 turnout uh these people
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have so much control over our lives that uh and we just go back to sleep so people have to remember
01:58:28.320
these times and figure and remember that as far as this is concerned we're going to file our our
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application for rid of habeas corpus and we're going to try to get shelly out of there as soon as
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possible uh because you know she's a rock star she's a real hero i mean it's people call all the
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time it's the principle of the thing and then you say well you know i don't know how this is going
01:58:47.580
to go you may have to go to jail and well i don't go to jail and that's the end of it and so i told
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her look you could go to jail if this goes awry and she said i have to do this we got to get going
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she has a one salonist stylist that came in from midland uh because she was starving in midland but
01:59:03.920
she saw that shelly was operating so she called shelly and she came up and she was one of the chairs
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because they were all brave you got to show up you're you're you're risking yeah i know getting
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a ticket there i know another salon that called me four of their people got cited so these are all
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unsophisticated people that they don't know what's going on happening to them or they could
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be put in jail for six months and of course that's what this is all about is just setting
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the stage and setting an example making an example out of shelly luther so that nobody
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everybody understands if you stand up and say no your rule of law is not your rule of law it's not
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really even an ordinance you are you are enforcing a bunch of nebulous things so yeah that's you got
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to stand up it is it it's uh it's astounding what is happening because as you say it is not
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law uh warren thank you so much i appreciate it and uh godspeed let us know how we can help
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