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00:03:11.800 Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad you're here.

00:03:15.880 We're going to start with Joe Kent. Joe is the guy who is high up in national intelligence and came out yesterday with a stunning letter.

00:03:27.560 accusing the president of you know just being duped by uh the israelis yeah uh so we got that

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00:05:25.240 things really, really clear. My job is not to convince you of one thing or another, and I've

00:05:29.760 been saying since this war began, I am tired of people with their opinions. I have my opinion. I

00:05:35.580 will tell you when it is my opinion, but it is important to establish facts first, and not a lot

00:05:42.120 of people are doing that and facts matter they matter so i want to go through some of the facts

00:05:48.940 but i also want to start with a couple of disclaimers i want you to know that as i take

00:05:53.220 you through this i did not buy nor use they're just days away from having a nuke as justification

00:06:01.180 for this war in fact i rejected that right off the top um you know i've done several monologues

00:06:07.520 on this. The day, the first day I was on the air with the, uh, with the war, that's one of the

00:06:13.080 first things I said. I don't accept that as a reason for going in because fool me once, shame

00:06:18.940 on you. Um, also I am not questioning anyone's right to question this war question, the government

00:06:27.540 question, our spy agencies question, anything all the way down to me. That is important in a

00:06:34.500 republic i also don't fault anyone for questioning this war whether it's in the best interest of the

00:06:41.640 united states of america especially after the debacle that was iraq and afghanistan i also

00:06:49.100 don't fault anybody for looking at the actual motives of all of our allies we should because

00:06:56.560 allies are not the united states of america they have different motives just as we do and that's

00:07:03.740 why i caution not to judge against things that you know that others may do that we ourself with

00:07:12.460 our own state department do to further our own national interests you know if if um if you're

00:07:20.280 going to fault somebody saying they're trying to convince us to do something that's not in our

00:07:23.980 national interest your problem is really not with that government because that's the job of their

00:07:29.240 secretary of state or foreign minister just like marco ruby that's marco rubio's job he goes in

00:07:34.420 and donald trump says get him on board with this well it may not be in their best interest find a

00:07:38.940 way get him on board that's what they do so if you have a problem with somebody being duped

00:07:44.160 the problem is with the politicians not the other country and this is where i believe joe goes

00:07:53.620 way awry on this. If true, his beef should be with our CIA as well as the president of the

00:08:02.760 United States. Now, he's making a beef with the CIA, but not with the president. But that's where

00:08:09.540 the buck stops. If China dupes our leaders, is that their fault or our fault? And I just want

00:08:17.920 to direct you back to Donald Trump. He's been very, very clear. How did we get into all of

00:08:23.220 these wars how do we lose all these financial deals what does he say over and over again

00:08:26.960 because we had idiots running our country we had presidents who just didn't get it

00:08:31.620 so that's where the fault would lie

00:08:34.600 but this is an incredible charge that he made and has deep ramifications now i want you also to know

00:08:47.800 I have pretty good deep sources on this issue, but none of them will go on record due to security

00:08:56.100 clearances and everything else. So I dismiss those things. I have to when I'm talking to you

00:09:03.220 because I can only give you as evidence in something this important what I can find in

00:09:09.740 open sources. I want to be as fair as possible. So let me look at the facts of what happened

00:09:16.580 yesterday with joe kent okay and give you the cleanest read i can give to you joe kent's

00:09:23.420 resignation is real we have to start with that because do you even know what's real anymore

00:09:28.120 this is real and at the core it is explosive he resigned as the director of the national

00:09:35.920 counter and counterterrorism center he said iran posed no imminent threat he accused israel and

00:09:44.580 its allies in America and American media for pushing the United States into war that benefited

00:09:51.240 Israel. Okay. That makes this the first major senior break inside this administration over

00:09:59.020 this conflict or really pretty much anything in this term. Now, Trump yesterday came out and

00:10:04.480 brushed him off as weak on security, yada, yada, yada. The White House and Tulsi Gabbard

00:10:09.100 gabbard defended the president's judgment and said he acted on compelling evidence now joe kent

00:10:16.720 is not some random bureaucrat he is and should be honored as such but it doesn't give you blanket

00:10:24.400 immunity from questioning he is a decorated veteran a war hero former special forces cia

00:10:31.320 officer two-time congressional candidate a candidate and also a man long identified with

00:10:37.740 american first an anti-interventionalist wing of the right he is a much more of a libertarian okay

00:10:44.400 he's also been controversial for his association with you know far-right figures talking about the

00:10:50.820 election in january 6 and everything else and so that's why the left has given him lots and lots

00:10:57.460 of criticism as a conspiracy theorist etc etc so the public the american public have two truths

00:11:05.520 to look at him. He's a serious combat veteran, deep resume. He's also spent years moving in

00:11:13.880 circles where grievance and extremism and ideological drift are also visible. Now,

00:11:22.440 I wouldn't normally bring this up, but he's got something else I'm going to bring up here

00:11:26.920 in a second that is important to say, that ideological drift. He has a deep tragedy in

00:11:34.880 the center of his life, and that is absolutely real. His first wife, Shannon Kent, highly decorated

00:11:41.020 Navy cryptologic technician. She was killed in, I think, 2019. An ISIS suicide bomber came into

00:11:48.740 Syria, blew himself up, and that was during Operation Inherent Resolve. Official Navy and

00:11:55.380 NSA memorial materials describe her as killed in the line of duty. ISIS claimed responsibility for

00:12:02.940 that attack now he has a new wife and this is important and normally i would not get into

00:12:09.780 you know somebody's wife unless it's an influencing factor and there is something

00:12:17.940 that is very different about the wife okay his current wife uh multiple reports identify

00:12:27.180 her as Heather Kayser and say that she has contributed to something called The Greystone.

00:12:34.460 This is an outlet, a media outlet, founded by Max Blumenthal. Who's Max Blumenthal? What is this

00:12:41.300 outlet? Blumenthal wrote for something called Al-Akbar. That is a pro-Hezbollah, pro-Assad

00:12:49.760 outlet. Now, he resigned in 2012 over the Syria coverage, but he's also a contributor to Russian

00:12:56.960 state media, RT, and Al Jazeera, which is Qatari money. The gray zone, which he edits, has been

00:13:04.740 criticized as anti-West, anti-Israel, pro-Russia, pro-Iran. Also, he was platformed at an Alexander

00:13:15.280 Dugan-linked event. If you've listened to this show, I've been talking about Alexander Dugan

00:13:19.640 and how dangerous this guy is since before the turn of the century. I mean, I first found him

00:13:26.640 when he said that America would break up

00:13:29.180 into 10 different zones

00:13:30.800 and they were trying to create a civil war in America.

00:13:33.920 And that was like 1997 or eight,

00:13:38.940 started talking about him.

00:13:40.020 He is very, very dangerous, okay?

00:13:43.200 This event called the Forum of the Future 2050

00:13:46.320 was in Moscow in 2025

00:13:48.400 and that's where Blumenthal spoke

00:13:51.260 on the same stage with Alexander Dugan.

00:13:54.440 Now, I want you to know,

00:13:55.380 crimes of the wife are not crimes of the husband. There's no crime with his wife, but it's a saying.

00:14:01.400 But I learned a very important lesson in my big fat Greek wedding, and that is the man may be the

00:14:08.840 head, but the wife is the neck and she turns the head. And anybody who is married knows, you know,

00:14:16.180 if your wife is on a path dude you got a choice okay now i don't find any solid reporting that

00:14:26.240 proves that she's an employee of blumenthal you know in the formal sense um but she did

00:14:33.320 write for the site so i don't know any deeper than that those connections are being argued

00:14:39.420 online. But the evidence available does not support she is a Dugan puppet or a supporter

00:14:48.860 of the Red-Green Alliance as established fact. However, you can draw an inference from that,

00:14:56.220 but that's not fact. That said, the ideological ecosystem that he is in and his wife is in,

00:15:04.020 It is curious to me that he has taken a 180-degree turn after they got together, and very, very recently.

00:15:15.200 I can't use that information.

00:15:19.360 Let me just go back to 2020.

00:15:22.360 He tweeted in 2020, we should not sit and wait for the next attack.

00:15:27.920 Wipe Iran's ballistic capability out.

00:15:30.520 Another one, I personally think we should have crushed their ballistic and nuclear capability, but Trump has a plan, and he has earned the trust of any clear-eyed observer.

00:15:43.700 So, he wanted to go further at that time.

00:15:47.580 Why the change?

00:15:49.440 Could it be the influence of Duganites?

00:15:52.700 Dugan is widely described by scholars and analysts as far-right, in the scary sense, ultra-nationalist, anti-liberal Russian ideologue, whose work argues for civilizational struggle, and it's against the West and the American power, and he's calling for chaos.

00:16:13.840 he is absolutely aligned with different theological endings he is absolutely aligned

00:16:21.540 with the mullahs in iran he is not just a russian professor with opinions he has long been treated

00:16:29.420 as an intellectual node in a broader anti-western network that seeks really bizarre alliances across

00:16:38.000 the far right and the far left and it's all united around anti-liberal democracy anti-nato

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00:18:09.200 So what you'll find on social media and other broadcasters or podcasters is, you know,

00:18:17.400 this guy has a windsock.

00:18:18.800 He's a total fraud.

00:18:20.480 No, he's a man of principle and a decorated war hero.

00:18:23.000 That's not the deepest question we should be answering here.

00:18:29.540 This guy chose to make an accusation of the highest possible consequence,

00:18:35.440 that the United States was pushed into a war by Israeli pressure and misinformation,

00:18:43.000 key, without presenting the proof required for a charge that large.

00:18:48.560 He is not a podcaster guessing from the bleachers.

00:18:53.000 This is a guy inside the intelligence community, inside, at the top of the, you know, spy apparatus.

00:19:01.780 If he has a charge like that, he has evidence of manipulated intelligence or political deception.

00:19:10.400 That evidence belongs before Congress, inspector generals, and the American people.

00:19:16.560 Show me the proof.

00:19:18.000 it's important because i can't dismiss you but i also can't accept it without you coming with proof

00:19:26.800 you can't just say when you call fire fire everybody has to pay attention okay and run

00:19:35.360 because there might be a fire that's not the same as this this when you say these things

00:19:41.540 you're required to step to the plate with truth. Why? Multiple sources inside the White House now

00:19:48.340 on record confirm that he had been kicked out of every classified briefing on Iran for weeks.

00:19:57.960 He lost access at the beginning of the year due to him being suspected of leaks. So he was already

00:20:04.340 on the out. And then when they started taking briefings on this, he was not in any of those

00:20:10.260 briefings so how would he know what the president was basing things on you know honestly due to his

00:20:18.240 leaks i'm wondering if anybody else has been burned by leaks from him in the past you know

00:20:23.560 what is real what is not how accurate were the past leaks i don't know but let's get back to the

00:20:29.500 proof the american system does not ask you to prove you're innocent it asks you to prove the guilt

00:20:37.860 that's up to the accuser so if his allegations are true he must present proof and they must be

00:20:46.720 looked into however if he doesn't have that proof then what he just released was not a principled

00:20:54.900 warning it was an accelerant i said this yesterday you know the country is all already on fire with

00:21:01.740 hatred and suspicion and real anti-Semitism. And an accusation like this is just gasoline.

00:21:09.380 Now, Tulsi Gabbard's statement, let me talk about her for a minute, it's revealing for the same

00:21:13.780 reason. She defended Trump's authority and the chain of command, but she appears to have framed

00:21:19.060 the conclusion as the president's judgment after reviewing intelligence rather than saying the

00:21:24.780 intelligence community had clearly established an imminent threat. Now, I don't know if that is

00:21:31.360 why she didn't do that is that a possible setup is she going to run for president does she need

00:21:37.480 this i don't know what's happening many people are reading her statement as institutional cover

00:21:46.160 rather than a full-throated factual rebuttal of kent it's kind of the middle ground but again

00:21:53.560 that's it's just being inferred but it's a grounded one so what is actually happening

00:22:01.120 This looks like a collision to me of three different forces. First, a real fracture inside the American First Coalition over Iran and Israel. Second, Kent's long-standing anti-interventionalist instinct sharpened by the trauma of losing his first wife.

00:22:16.160 Third, an information ecosystem that too often slides from skepticism about war into conspiratorial narratives about hidden ethnic or foreign control.

00:22:29.600 And that last step is where republics get poisoned.

00:22:34.220 Opposition to a war, this war or any war, can be principled.

00:22:38.240 Opposition against Israel can be principled.

00:22:42.000 But claims that the Jews or Israel's lobby secretly dragging America into a war require extraordinary proof.

00:22:52.260 Why?

00:22:53.280 Because history teaches us exactly where this language leads when it's flung into a frightened public without any evidence.

00:23:04.840 So I can't tell you anything other than those things are facts.

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00:27:46.160 Love to hear your take on Joe Kent and what you think is happening.

00:27:53.780 Well, first of all, it really annoys me that some people are trying to just shut down all conversations on Joe Kent because they refer back to his veteran status and what he has done in the past.

00:28:07.320 And he's done great stuff.

00:28:08.300 Which he's done great stuff.

00:28:09.460 Yeah.

00:28:10.320 Again, hold two thoughts in your head at the same time.

00:28:13.940 You can do it.

00:28:14.440 It's called chewing gum and walking.

00:28:16.300 You can do two things at once.

00:28:18.280 He can be a great military hero and something that you got to go, wait a minute, what is happening here?

00:28:26.340 Right.

00:28:26.640 Because otherwise, I am also a veteran.

00:28:28.820 I also served in a foreign war in Afghanistan.

00:28:31.820 I can break every single FCC rule that's out there right now.

00:28:35.400 I'm going to start right now.

00:28:36.440 No, let's not.

00:28:37.360 Let's not.

00:28:38.260 Oh, I thought that I was absolved.

00:28:39.660 No, you don't absolve.

00:28:40.840 You don't get absolved because you are a veteran.

00:28:44.880 That was my one shot.

00:28:45.880 I was just going to go for it.

00:28:46.960 No, no, really bad idea.

00:28:49.160 So that, for one, irks me.

00:28:51.200 But for two, his shift in ideology is something that I cannot explain.

00:28:58.660 I don't think anyone can explain right now.

00:29:00.940 You can't go from having the mindset that you had just a few years ago, probably just a few months ago.

00:29:06.660 I don't know when this shift happened.

00:29:08.240 but you can't go from knowing that iran is the global state sponsor for terror of terror the

00:29:15.780 number one which he has said in the past you can't go from saying look we have to support israel

00:29:21.680 in this fight against iran because they are so bad with their proxies everything has destabilized

00:29:26.740 the entire region and they threaten us you believe that you say that donald trump during

00:29:34.700 his first term should have gone farther. And these are the things he lists off. Attacking

00:29:40.760 nuclear sites, attacking their position, their ability to project power outside the country,

00:29:45.120 attacking proxies. You have to do that. I don't, almost not a direct quote, but pretty much around

00:29:50.000 what he was saying was, you need to address those things. I wish he would have, but he didn't. But

00:29:53.840 I trust the president has a plan. Everything he was describing a few years ago is exactly what

00:30:00.380 the war is looking like today.

00:30:02.420 So let me ask you, as we look for an answer on what happened, the guy is crazy, the guy

00:30:13.120 is anti-Semitic, la, la, la, la, there might be a really simple answer to this.

00:30:22.260 2028.

00:30:24.600 The MAGA world is up for grabs.

00:30:27.860 Donald Trump is not going to be the head of MAGA.

00:30:31.680 So what does MAGA mean?

00:30:35.680 That's what's being defined right now.

00:30:38.200 All of this just may be, I hate to be so cynical here, and again, my opinion,

00:30:44.720 but looking for things that make sense to me, everything is about power.

00:30:52.140 Everything is always about power.

00:30:54.300 Power, money, control, and you have the biggest movement in America in my lifetime, MAGA, and it's going to be handed off to somebody.

00:31:10.140 Somebody is going to take this.

00:31:12.040 Now, there are those that would say, split it.

00:31:17.100 So there is the left that would love to see a split.

00:31:20.560 But there are also those who have such different viewpoints on what MAGA should do.

00:31:31.900 They will not take on Donald Trump.

00:31:33.720 And this is my key point with Joe.

00:31:37.200 Joe, your argument is actually with Donald Trump.

00:31:39.300 If what you say is true, then your argument is with Donald Trump.

00:31:43.120 Because he's not a moron.

00:31:44.880 He's not a patsy.

00:31:46.040 He's not senile.

00:31:47.620 He's not stupid.

00:31:48.560 it he i can guarantee you i know i know the man surrounds himself the guy spent 30 minutes on the

00:31:57.100 phone with me one time which he did not have to do talking about trade i want to hear your argument

00:32:03.320 against trade tell me tell me why are you against why are you against tariffs he didn't need to do

00:32:09.760 that but he actually listened and engaged he surrounds himself with people who have his

00:32:15.380 worldview but he also equally as important brings people in that have a different point of view so

00:32:22.120 there's no way he just took all of the he's too smart he he knows that was the reason we got into

00:32:29.240 iran i mean sorry iraq weapons of mass destruction he has been preaching against that weapons of

00:32:35.480 mass destruction live george w bush since the day he said it so somebody walks into his office and

00:32:41.500 as you know weapons of mass destruction what do you think he's gonna say what do you think he's

00:32:46.420 going to say he's going to say no i don't believe that show it to me okay so your argument has to

00:32:57.040 be about donald trump if you're joe uh if you're uh joe kent but notice it's not why wouldn't you

00:33:05.960 make it about donald trump why would you say and you were the best president ever you just got us

00:33:11.480 into a war that is serving only Israel and not America if that's what you believe why would you

00:33:17.920 say and it's an honor and a kissy kissy kissy I love you so much you wouldn't say that unless

00:33:24.420 you're trying to hold on to him to be able to hold the people who are MAGA notice Donald Trump

00:33:31.940 they're MAGA on both sides they're not split on Donald Trump okay they're split on the policies

00:33:38.900 but he is the policy he is the guy making the policy but everybody who splits from him

00:33:46.260 they know split from his policy they know keep him happy keep him in line he's our guy he's our guy

00:33:53.120 he's our guy but look at this policy this is horrible this is the worst thing ever it's the

00:33:57.680 jews that are doing that well no excuse me if you believe that then you have to say donald trump

00:34:05.340 is in with the Jews because he's not a moron so he must knowingly be doing these things because

00:34:13.000 that's what Donald Trump always said about politicians why do we get into these wars

00:34:17.320 why do we get into bad trade deals because our presidents don't know what they're doing and

00:34:23.000 they're idiots so if you believe Donald Trump is smart enough to recognize that situation

00:34:30.060 in others then you have to say if you believe what joe kent did you have to say donald trump's

00:34:36.480 smart enough to recognize he's in bed making the same mistakes that all the other presidents made

00:34:42.600 but they don't do it this is all about politics this is about the next election right now you are

00:34:51.940 being shaped. I want you to start looking at the news in a different way. I want you to start

00:35:00.660 looking at the news. This is so cynical and I hate this, but I want you to start looking at

00:35:05.420 all of the news when it comes to MAGA as who wins if I believe this. What do they gain if I believe

00:35:17.220 this they gain half of MAGA because there is that split going on right now am I wrong Ricky

00:35:29.080 you see where I'm going oh I I see where you're going and honestly there's probably some of these

00:35:34.760 folks that would love nothing more than to have President Trump's endorsement exactly right so

00:35:39.980 you can stay on his good side you have to have his good side you have to remain on his good side

00:35:46.060 But if you want to hold any part of MAGA, and both sides of MAGA now love Donald Trump, and I've not been able to work that out in my head, how you're going against all of his policies, but he is the policy.

00:36:03.060 I mean, I stood in the hallway with J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio and had a conversation with both, and I've never seen any—I've had conversations at this level before, and I've never seen politicians do this ever before.

00:36:18.700 What is happening?

00:36:19.600 You guys are on fire right now.

00:36:21.660 Both of them separately.

00:36:23.420 One, J.D. came in after I was talking to Marco, but Marco was there when J.D. said it, and I said, Marco just said the same thing.

00:36:31.060 It's not us.

00:36:32.100 We go in every morning and he tells us this is what we're doing today.

00:36:36.260 We're just doing it.

00:36:37.340 It's him.

00:36:38.060 It's him.

00:36:38.840 It's him.

00:36:39.640 So nobody's duping the president.

00:36:42.760 Nobody is.

00:36:43.380 This is not the fault of Marco Rubio, not the fault of Pete Hegseth, not the fault of the CIA.

00:36:50.900 It is Donald Trump.

00:36:52.860 He deserves all the credit and all the blame if you don't like it.

00:36:58.040 You can't give him all the credit and none of the blame.

00:37:03.080 Otherwise, he's not the guy you think he is.

00:37:07.560 And believe me, he is the guy you think he is.

00:37:12.380 So, again, I don't have anything to back this up in fact,

00:37:17.840 so don't take my word as gospel.

00:37:20.500 But I'm looking for things that make sense.

00:37:24.020 This doesn't make sense.

00:37:26.260 He turned on a dime.

00:37:28.860 Turned on a dime.

00:37:30.260 So that is either outside influence, which it could be, or it's more cynical than that.

00:37:42.620 It's, I see a way to play a role in MAGA after this president is done.

00:37:49.880 I'm positioning myself to play some role in MAGA 2028, and I'm putting my chips in the anti-Israel MAGA movement.

00:38:00.260 i think that's what's happening could be wrong

00:38:04.860 again i just say we could solve this show me the proof show me the proof joe and by the way ricky

00:38:14.120 just gave me a tweet that said what was it you said it was a tweet or was it oh there was lots

00:38:19.480 of tweets about yesterday's commentary that went viral people are saying i've never heard you tell

00:38:23.960 anyone else i don't want your opinion i want facts until just now no you can have an opinion

00:38:31.420 but you need the facts first you have to have the facts first that is something i've been saying for

00:38:37.060 the last few weeks once we got into this war i said i have been watching the news and everybody

00:38:42.360 has an opinion everybody has an opinion can you give me any facts first then tell me what it means

00:38:51.500 i don't need your opinion you don't need i said in that monologue yesterday i don't i don't want

00:38:59.820 to be somebody where you're taking my opinion and just running with my opinion my opinion is my

00:39:06.620 opinion as i said yesterday i have an ass and an opinion and they're both worth the same thing

00:39:11.460 when it comes to things like this when we're trying to figure things out when we are looking

00:39:16.860 at at all of this uh something this important you have to start with the facts and again because i

00:39:25.760 know one of them said uh glenn why don't you produce your facts that it didn't happen

00:39:30.480 did you grow up in russia where'd you grow up because i grew up in the united states of america

00:39:37.660 the accuser presents the facts the accused is innocent until proven guilty so you could make

00:39:48.760 that case i might even believe you if you have the facts i might even without facts be inclined

00:39:53.880 to believe you that yep i bet you the cia is doing that kind of stuff might even be inclined

00:39:59.000 but that doesn't make the person guilty that doesn't mean that what you said is true produce

00:40:04.640 the facts prove the guilt i don't have to prove the innocent you have to prove the guilt

00:40:13.240 that's the way it works in america back in a minute something happening uh right now a lot

00:40:20.160 of people hoped they would see um they wouldn't see again in their lifetime and that is

00:40:24.920 rampant anti-semitism i mean i was just talking to tommy robinson yesterday and you know we were

00:40:32.260 talking he said glenn you were saying that this was coming you know in the early 2000s when he

00:40:37.600 was just getting when he just as he was first getting arrested um and uh you know everybody

00:40:44.220 said that was nuts it is here gang it is here and it's getting worse and for a lot of jewish

00:40:49.080 families that has changed the feeling of everyday life in places that used to feel safe uh places

00:40:55.660 that used to feel like you know it everything is normal well it's not normal anymore and in israel

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00:43:18.840 all right some questions from uh torch bearers a lot of folks want to know what makes criticism

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00:43:40.860 um wait a because you're blaming israel for one and i've already gone through that so that

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00:46:41.340 hello america hello america welcome to the glenn beck program there's a lot going on

00:46:46.060 today we've got our big special happening tomorrow night uh on the destruction of the western world

00:46:52.300 and uh we've my staff keeps saying glenn this is this is amazing this is amazing we did a walk

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00:47:03.340 like this chalkboards are back uh everything that you need to learn and to really get a handle on

00:47:10.140 Oh, wow.

00:47:12.460 They really are trying to destroy America.

00:47:15.700 And there is such a thing as the Red-Green Alliance.

00:47:18.680 This is something that you should watch with a somewhat open-minded friend,

00:47:22.920 somebody who's not necessarily paying attention,

00:47:26.080 because when you see it, you can't unsee it.

00:47:29.160 And that is tomorrow night, 8 p.m.

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00:47:43.880 8 p.m. tomorrow.

00:47:45.400 Also, Tommy Robinson just had a fascinating interview with him yesterday.

00:47:53.440 I don't know what I thought about Tommy.

00:47:55.680 I guess I didn't know about Tommy yet.

00:47:58.900 You know, you can watch things, but when you're seeing somebody from across the ocean and they are not rooted in American principles, that's the problem with Europe.

00:48:08.220 when they don't have the Bill of Rights.

00:48:11.220 They don't understand all men are created equal, endowed by their creator.

00:48:14.120 So they don't have these things, and so they can go awry quickly.

00:48:18.880 And then when you have the media saying,

00:48:20.380 they're a far-right, white supremacist, blah, blah, blah,

00:48:23.560 and you're not over there, you don't know.

00:48:25.860 I have to tell you, I walked away really respecting him.

00:48:28.480 I really liked him.

00:48:30.720 You know, he started out as a football thug

00:48:35.620 uh and he explained his whole story to me and i mean it's a fascinating interview so we'll get to

00:48:43.300 some of that here in just a second i also want to continue our conversation from

00:48:47.000 our number one of the podcast today where we were talking about joe kent and i want to get off the

00:48:52.660 joe kent thing um but i said last hour i want you to start looking at everything through the eyes of

00:48:59.000 2028 if you do that you might start understanding stories and i think that's what the joe kent story

00:49:05.060 is about. As I laid out last hour, I think that this is really about 2028. This is the MAGA

00:49:11.580 movement is up for grabs. Who is going to get it? And what does that mean? And so that's why MAGA

00:49:19.140 is being split. And notice they're not splitting Donald Trump. Both sides love Donald Trump.

00:49:26.860 I don't know how that works exactly, but okay. But they're splitting MAGA and it's because of

00:49:32.320 2028 I'm convinced of it and there's there was something that happened I think it was maybe on

00:49:37.860 Monday that was really small in some ways it was fabulous to hear but there's something small that

00:49:47.540 happened that was a tell and it was all about 2028 and I'll explain this in just 60 seconds first

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00:51:07.960 something small is the tell here. And it's a quiet move that reveals the whole strategy.

00:51:15.280 And what happened just a couple of days ago was one of those moments. A task force was announced

00:51:22.780 on fraud and if it were any other administration it would just be you know housekeeping it would

00:51:30.460 be you know another headline another promise to clean things up in washington you know washington

00:51:35.960 creates task force all the time and they never solve any of the problems but this one is different

00:51:40.980 this one is different not because of what it says on paper but because who is standing at the center

00:51:48.280 of it. Donald Trump started a task force on corruption led by J.D. Vance. So who's standing

00:51:57.560 there at the head of it is important, and just as important is who is not. I want you to think

00:52:05.720 of everything through the eyes of 2028, and let's look at the board the way a strategist would look

00:52:11.860 at it. Where's Marco Rubio right now? Marco Rubio has more jobs than anybody I have ever

00:52:18.400 met. He is right now exactly where you'd expect him to be, deep in foreign policy,

00:52:26.800 standing shoulder to shoulder with Donald Trump and the administration in one of the most

00:52:31.920 volatile geopolitical moments in my lifetime.

00:52:36.440 this thing could be a miracle could be a massacre could be horrible in the end don't know yet

00:52:44.620 iran energy global alliances the risks of escalation into world war three this is the

00:52:52.080 highest stakes i've ever seen a president play at high visibility high risk and whoever is with it

00:53:00.480 is either a hero or a villain.

00:53:04.940 And if it works, there's stability.

00:53:07.520 There's lower oil prices.

00:53:10.300 There's a real peace dividend by 26 or 27.

00:53:14.680 And Rubio will look like an amazing statesman.

00:53:18.420 He becomes the natural heir,

00:53:20.560 the man who helps steady the world.

00:53:23.260 But if it doesn't, what happens to Rubio?

00:53:27.700 If the war drags, if the costs mount, if Americans feel it in their wallets and their son and daughters start coming home in boxes, that position is an absolute anchor.

00:53:44.460 Now shift your focus here for a second.

00:53:46.320 We got Rubio, but I started talking about J.D. Vance, so let me go back to J.D. Vance.

00:53:50.880 Where's J.D. Vance?

00:53:52.780 Right now on this issue, where is J.D. Vance?

00:53:57.700 I've heard rumors he's not really with the president on this one,

00:54:02.220 but I haven't seen any statements, and I haven't seen the president say,

00:54:06.060 yeah, he's kind of weak on this.

00:54:07.740 Normally, he would say something like, J.D. Vance is just not anywhere near this storm.

00:54:12.960 He's standing somewhere else entirely.

00:54:16.800 Donald Trump, say what you want about him, but the guy is a freaking genius.

00:54:21.140 He is going to make sure that the America First idea, that MAGA, goes on well after him.

00:54:33.120 Because what did he do?

00:54:34.920 He's put J.D. Vance at the same time the war, fraud, corruption, government waste.

00:54:40.860 That's not accidental.

00:54:42.240 That is positioning.

00:54:43.260 Because what Trump said, almost offhandedly, is actually, I think, the thesis of the next election.

00:54:53.480 He said, and I quote,

00:54:54.960 If we found half the fraud, we'd have a balanced budget.

00:55:01.580 That line is not about accounting.

00:55:04.080 That line is about framing.

00:55:06.040 It reframes the entire economic argument away from the painful choices, cuts, taxes, austerity, all the things that everybody else in every other country, their politicians talk about.

00:55:20.260 We've got to cut our way through austerity.

00:55:22.440 We have to start doing it.

00:55:23.580 Uh-uh.

00:55:24.700 This would be emotionally unifying.

00:55:28.060 The message is someone is stealing from you.

00:55:32.240 and all we have to do is stop the threat

00:55:36.020 and stop the theft

00:55:38.100 and we're going to be okay.

00:55:41.960 And not in theory.

00:55:44.840 The story out of Minneapolis,

00:55:46.940 billions of dollars siphoned from programs

00:55:49.600 meant for the vulnerable.

00:55:52.860 I mean, it just couldn't get any...

00:55:54.600 I mean, if I were writing a script,

00:55:56.460 it couldn't get any better.

00:55:58.800 Wait, you're taking the money from children

00:56:00.940 who are hungry?

00:56:02.240 If I'm writing a script, I've got my bad guy.

00:56:06.960 It gives the argument teeth, faces, numbers, outrage.

00:56:12.320 And now Vance is being handed the mandate to go find more, not quietly, publicly, relentlessly.

00:56:21.580 Trump even telegraphed this.

00:56:24.240 He said, this is not going to be ceremonial.

00:56:26.460 It won't be symbolic.

00:56:27.420 He said, quote, there's not going to be another czar with no title or with a title and no teeth.

00:56:33.060 Basically, not going to be Kamala going down and trying to figure out what's happening with our border.

00:56:39.780 And that's the contrast he uses.

00:56:42.960 He defined in advance what leadership is supposed to look like, and he assigned Vance the role of proving it.

00:56:52.100 Now, let's step back from the whole board and look at the whole board again.

00:56:55.260 You have one potential successor tied to global outcomes that he can't fully control, but he's going to be tied with that.

00:57:06.940 Another one being given a domestic mission that can be prosecuted daily, case by case, headline by headline, building a narrative that feeds directly into the next campaign.

00:57:18.820 J.D. Vance is going to be the guy against Gavin Newsom because he's going to find the corruption in California.

00:57:29.140 So that pits him against Newsom.

00:57:31.800 By 2028, we'll know what the Republican message will be.

00:57:40.420 Not just growth, not just strength abroad, but this.

00:57:46.100 Your government was looted.

00:57:48.820 The biggest theft in American history happened. Somebody robbed our treasury. And we can prove it. And we stopped it.

00:57:59.920 That's a pretty powerful argument against governors like Gavin Newsom or any other Democrat running on expanding programs and increasing spending and promising more systems.

00:58:09.520 because the counter is going to be simple.

00:58:13.360 Before you do more,

00:58:15.100 can you explain why the system wasn't protected

00:58:18.280 in your state the last time?

00:58:19.980 Can you explain where the money went?

00:58:23.160 Can you explain why no one in your state stopped it?

00:58:27.920 And if Vance is the one uncovering those answers,

00:58:30.800 if he becomes the face of that accountability,

00:58:33.760 then he isn't just part of the administration.

00:58:36.320 He becomes the argument.

00:58:39.520 Same thing with everything that is happening with Marco Rubio.

00:58:46.220 Marco Rubio will become the face of whatever it is that happens with not only this war, but the entire strategy of our foreign policy.

00:58:59.000 You have the, if it goes well, you have the possibility of the two best candidates I've ever seen in my lifetime, because we will know on record what they are capable of doing. We will have seen them in action.

00:59:14.700 This is how you build a successor without naming one. You give them a lane. You give them a mission. You give them victories to see and feel, but you also give them a place to fail.

00:59:29.000 If they're not going to be presidential, if they're not the ones for the job, we'll know it because they will have failed.

00:59:38.100 You let time do all the rest.

00:59:42.920 There's one condition that determines whether any of this works, and that is the economy.

00:59:48.220 Because it always comes back to that.

00:59:50.540 If people are working, if wages stabilize, if the inflation cools, then the fraud narrative becomes gasoline already on a moving engine.

01:00:01.960 If the economy is struggling, then even the most compelling corruption story isn't going to be enough.

01:00:09.440 But make no mistake on what is happening here.

01:00:12.360 This is not just about fraud.

01:00:13.900 This is about defining the battlefield of the next election.

01:00:17.860 And quietly, without a speech, without a rally, without a declaration,

01:00:23.600 Trump just put two pieces on the board.

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01:02:23.100 Let me, the Charlie Kirk question.

01:02:27.900 Yeah, let me play something.

01:02:29.420 Do I have five minutes here, Sarah?

01:02:32.580 Okay, I don't know if I can get to the whole thing,

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01:02:39.420 Listen to the question and his answer.

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01:02:46.480 Listen to this from the podcast coming out this week.

01:02:49.280 Cut nine.

01:02:51.700 I had a conversation with Charlie Kirk three years before he died, and we were just having a private conversation talking about what was coming.

01:02:59.980 And he asked me and I said, the only thing that's left is war and assassinations.

01:03:08.920 And he said, wow.

01:03:11.500 And I said, it's not, he said, do you think they would go after Trump this, you know, years before?

01:03:17.500 And I said, oh yeah, but I said, Charlie, I think they're going to go after people like us as well.

01:03:23.780 And we talked about that for a while.

01:03:25.560 And I regret now not saying to him, a question I want to ask you.

01:03:33.320 First of all, you seem pretty committed to go all the way, no matter what comes your way.

01:03:42.700 True?

01:03:43.660 I believe I'm meant to be doing this.

01:03:45.280 I don't believe I have a choice.

01:03:49.860 God forbid something happens to you.

01:03:51.720 what do you want people to how do you want people who follow you or support you to react

01:03:58.300 to do i believe that in history defining moments changed the course of a nation that's what

01:04:05.760 happens bloody sunday changed the course of the conflict in northern ireland no one knew what

01:04:10.700 that moment would be a moment will come that's going to change the direction of europe um we've

01:04:15.440 been working for it for 15 16 17 years to try and awaken the public we're at a stage now where the

01:04:20.140 public are awake um i think that when they put me in jail in 2017 i was put in there to be killed

01:04:26.100 i've been in i've there's six as i said six muslims got caught guns i just got named in this

01:04:32.280 month's isis publication to be killed um i think that when they put me in jail that that in 2017

01:04:38.380 they realized that if i was killed there might spark a revolution in britain so i've detailed

01:04:45.600 everything they've done i think that the public have been pushed so far we have we don't allow

01:04:51.640 them to dictate to us who we are we are organizing peaceful rallies celebrations cultural identity

01:04:57.520 music art love we love our country um we're not going to give it away and they are trying to give

01:05:03.540 it away they've successfully destroyed it in 60 years through weakness and cowardice um i want

01:05:10.200 a i want which we're in the process of doing now we've built the unite the kingdom movement

01:05:14.640 which is now at millions on the streets

01:05:16.840 we want to unite the kingdom

01:05:18.800 and unite the west

01:05:19.560 this is far bigger than us

01:05:20.860 it's far bigger

01:05:21.840 this is western civilisation

01:05:23.620 that's what this is about

01:05:25.520 now unless you have unity

01:05:26.960 of all western civilisational groups

01:05:29.060 across every western nation

01:05:30.880 we're going to lose

01:05:31.760 so our future beyond

01:05:34.560 our next event on May 16th

01:05:36.380 is to unite the west

01:05:37.300 and for all of these groups

01:05:38.780 I've travelled

01:05:39.200 I went to see Salvini in Italy

01:05:40.380 I went to see Ericsson Moore in France

01:05:42.840 I've contacted the leaders of Vox

01:05:44.420 I've contacted the members of the AFD

01:05:47.560 say listen

01:05:48.540 we need to celebrate our identity

01:05:50.800 and that's what we're trying to do

01:05:52.700 instead of being against something

01:05:53.920 we're going for something

01:05:55.160 we're for the best civilisation

01:05:56.420 the world has ever seen

01:05:57.220 we're for our culture and identity

01:05:58.420 individual nations

01:05:59.340 and it's time we celebrate it

01:06:00.620 and we put back our identity

01:06:01.860 because I believe that these people

01:06:03.480 who aren't voting

01:06:04.140 they're not voting because it's politics

01:06:06.100 and I don't think you're going to get them

01:06:07.820 through politics

01:06:08.260 you're going to get them through culture and identity

01:06:09.600 so our goal is to

01:06:11.400 um it can be very frightening when it's not rooted to principles it's rooted to culture

01:06:19.240 and identity it is principles so we what we've done is we got when i when i was giving back my

01:06:24.000 voice from elon musk i flew back to the uk i was defeated i was i was abroad divorced they'd broke

01:06:28.940 my family they'd bankrupt me through the courts through lies just come out of jail again i left

01:06:33.660 i fled you know and then i was in a dark place elon musk picked me up give me back my voice

01:06:38.760 i flew back to the uk organized a meeting of 10 15 whether you call them influencers

01:06:43.680 katie hopkins cole benjamin maya tusi these are big names in the uk have all faced attack

01:06:48.400 but now they're all back and he's got half a million he's got a million so we all sat down

01:06:53.000 and we spent two days together and said british culture's at risk here yeah we need to stop

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01:08:59.160 This whole time, we've feared. We fought against Islamic terrorism.

01:09:05.960 But the Islamist threat is even more terrifying than that.

01:09:10.740 They're here. They've been here. They've waited.

01:09:15.180 And faster than ever, they're making their moves. They're Islamists.

01:09:20.280 Islamists want the United States to resemble Islamic republics in the Middle East.

01:09:25.900 Our goal is to make American Islam, real Islamic State.

01:09:29.460 They're among us. They're among our politicians, among our city leaders.

01:09:33.520 There's a template and a playbook that is in motion.

01:09:36.320 We're living here to shift this country's political direction, engaging in dawah, and dawah is essential.

01:09:42.340 And most of the Western world isn't even aware of what's happening.

01:09:46.560 As a doctor, I don't just treat symptoms. Terrorism is a symptom.

01:09:50.020 The disease, the cancer, is political Islam.

01:09:52.980 It's incompatible with everything that America and the Western world stands for.

01:09:59.360 Honor violence, honor killings, child marriage.

01:10:03.120 We have this idea that, oh, we can't judge other cultures.

01:10:06.300 And it's happening in more ways than you could imagine.

01:10:09.300 This is economic jihad.

01:10:11.300 So which side will win the ideological battle for the West?

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01:10:31.300 together um it is a complete look at what the blueprint is to conquer the united states of

01:10:38.760 america and how important everything you're seeing in europe that is only to get to us

01:10:43.800 We are the linchpin, and it is truly terrifying and top of the list.

01:10:50.940 Should be at the top of everybody's list on what is happening because it's happening really fast.

01:10:56.700 Daniel Horowitz is joining us now, and I wanted to have you on because, Daniel, you wrote an opinion the other day about the mayor of Dearborn Heights.

01:11:07.820 and he was talking about the the Michigan synagogue attack and he said you know basically that you

01:11:18.320 know the the guy who did the attack he was the real victim can you take us through this and

01:11:23.160 your thinking on this sure so you know you had Tennessee congressman Andy Ogles who said that

01:11:29.400 Islam is incompatible with America we cannot have immigrants from Islamic countries anymore

01:11:35.100 And a lot of people went crazy over that and lambasted him. He's a hater. And then when I saw that statement from a polished mayor publicly, so this is not some sort of schlepper in Dearborn saying this privately, saying that, well, yeah, what do you expect this guy to do?

01:11:54.140 his two brothers were killed. And then incidentally, the Lebanese government actually tells us that

01:12:01.220 one of them was a Hezbollah commander in charge of procurement. And this guy just blissfully,

01:12:09.440 nonchalantly says that this is what you expect. He exemplified Congressman Ogilus's point

01:12:16.340 that it's not a matter of a couple of kinetic terrorists, but an entire ideology in a community

01:12:23.180 in the case of Dearborn, that supports it with such pervasive and virulent support that even

01:12:30.720 their polished elected officials in the wake of such an attack are willing to say that.

01:12:38.560 So to me, they themselves are, they're telling on themselves.

01:12:42.920 Yeah, because we would never say, let's say one of the seven people that have died in the war

01:12:47.700 uh in iran let's say they're they you know they were killed by an iranian bomb or whatever

01:12:53.480 for them to go and blow up the a family member to come to the united states and blow up an

01:13:00.680 iranian embassy we would never excuse that and say well i know but you know the iranians just

01:13:06.800 killed him no we would never ever excuse that that's not western thinking yeah i don't think

01:13:13.760 we have to go back to go to Iran. I mean, just in the United States alone, we have had numerous

01:13:21.140 terror attacks. So we had the Austin Bar. We've had, obviously, last year, New Year's, 14 Americans

01:13:27.360 killed in New Orleans from this jihadist who rammed people, ran them over. You had the two

01:13:34.200 West Virginia National Guardsmen killed by that Afghan refugee in D.C. There is zero expectation

01:13:41.660 that the Christian or Jewish victims of those attacks on our shores would go into a mosque

01:13:48.280 and try to ram a school of children, and that is exactly the difference that we have a number

01:13:56.540 of religions in this country. Some of them have different practices than others. You have some

01:14:01.440 very strict practices, some splinter sectors, but even the most conservative, maybe even repressive

01:14:08.140 splinter sects of Christianity, of Judaism, there is zero expectation of violence. There is zero

01:14:16.280 expectation that they will work with, get funded by, or cheer on our enemies. And there is zero

01:14:23.000 expectation that in their houses of worship, they will call for the overthrow of our government.

01:14:30.260 And that's where we need to really have this constitutional discussion of what is a religion

01:14:34.860 and what is a political movement so let me play give you an example of this this is i think is

01:14:41.660 may may have been on cutting room floor maybe in the special this is a michigan imam an imam in

01:14:48.200 dearborn talking to his followers in the mosque about christians listen to this we see that the

01:14:56.120 christians celebrate the so-called birth of isa alayhi salam which is a pagan holiday

01:15:02.900 these rogue liars

01:15:05.360 make claims against Allah

01:15:08.520 that are mind-blowing

01:15:10.020 so much so that hearts turn away

01:15:12.740 from the beginning of

01:15:14.660 every Gregorian year

01:15:16.220 they make the celebration

01:15:18.260 claiming that Allah

01:15:20.440 subhanahu wa ta'ala has a wife

01:15:22.560 and a child

01:15:24.800 how can a Muslim

01:15:26.460 after this celebrate

01:15:28.320 congratulate intermingle

01:15:30.700 with these kuffar claiming

01:15:32.440 that Allah has a wife and has a child, Allah's wrath is upon them, he says, indeed you have

01:15:44.200 brought forth a terrible evil thing, and do not fall for the inner faith nonsense, these

01:15:49.340 people who give khutab and come to the masajid, claiming that the Yahud are not kuffar, the

01:15:53.680 Nasara are not kuffar, no one is kafir, we're all the children of Adam, we worship Allah

01:15:58.920 differently brothers in humanity don't fall for this this is the new thing that is going on today

01:16:05.240 hear what he's saying hear what he's saying he is talking about christians go ahead what'd you say

01:16:14.260 yeah well i was just gonna say that was actually kind of mild yes compared to what a lot of them

01:16:18.480 say where they overtly call for violence but again i mean if you look back to what madison

01:16:23.820 Jefferson, Theodore Sedgwick, what they talked about during the 1790 naturalization debate,

01:16:29.940 they wanted people that were fit for the society, that loved our Republican values. Jefferson

01:16:37.760 talked about that in the notes of the state of Virginia. And they were expressing concerns about

01:16:44.280 mass migration from the countries that they hailed from, from Europe. Okay, they could never

01:16:51.360 have envisioned something like this, where we have in their houses of worship a complete subversion

01:16:59.680 against the government of the United States. And I think this is the distinction people need to

01:17:04.560 understand. You have a constitutional right to practice the religion. So you could fast on

01:17:09.540 Ramadan, do whatever prayers you do. But when you chant, we support Hezbollah, we support Hamas,

01:17:17.720 and you have imams and mosques that are tied to and funded by our mortal enemies,

01:17:25.200 there is no First Amendment right to that and to have those places

01:17:31.320 just because you might also be praying and fasting inside of them

01:17:35.620 any more than there's a right for the Chinese communists to set up shop

01:17:40.600 and call for the overthrow of our government,

01:17:43.020 but maybe celebrate the Chinese Lunar New Year while they're doing that.

01:17:47.720 So, how do you make the case with our First Amendment that, because I heard somebody the other day saying all Muslims should be gone.

01:17:58.440 And I'm like, okay, that's a little scary.

01:18:01.280 Let's slow down here a bit.

01:18:03.620 But they were making a serious case that it's absolutely incompatible.

01:18:10.080 Well, let me ask you this first.

01:18:11.600 is there a difference between islam and an islamist a muslim and an islamist is there a

01:18:18.640 difference and then next question uh how do you make the constitutional case that we're you're

01:18:26.800 not welcome here so i i think the bigger distinction is islam as the religion and a

01:18:34.460 muslim in that respect you could have just like you have with catholic catholic jews anyone else

01:18:40.320 where, you know, your parents, grandparents kept certain things, but you're not really much of a

01:18:44.640 Catholic. You know, you might have one or two customs you like, and that's what it is, but

01:18:50.400 you're not keeping the religion. So they have people like that that move away from it or don't

01:18:54.240 really keep it. But the religion is the religion. I mean, there is only one path to it. I think the

01:19:01.680 more relevant discussion is the fact that whatever semantic debate we have about what percentage and

01:19:10.980 what types there are, every single major Muslim NGO and mosque is run by the Muslim Brotherhood,

01:19:21.260 and that is a problem. That is not protected. And Jews and Christians aren't protected either.

01:19:26.620 If they had their infrastructure run by that or the Chinese communists, that is the distinction there.

01:19:35.880 So you have the right to practice whatever you want, but the reality is when you have these epic complexes in Plano, Texas, it's not some freelance moderate Muslim ponying up the money for that.

01:19:48.520 And I think that is where there is no constitutional right.

01:19:51.700 I also think, Glenn, connected to this discussion of why I believe Islam is the same at its core is we need to understand Islam is a greater problem, paradoxically, now in America and Europe than in the Middle East.

01:20:07.880 Yes.

01:20:08.060 See, in the Middle East, and you see this especially in the UAE, but really in most of the countries, Islam is a state.

01:20:15.200 It's an entire system, except there, because they're all Muslim, well, they have to have their own somewhat secular state because an Islamic state is dysfunctional, and at the end of the day, they want to prosper.

01:20:27.140 So they have to clamp down on it and modify it and change it.

01:20:31.840 So you don't get the decaffeinated version – well, you get a decaffeinated version of it.

01:20:36.740 But ironically, in America, in a place like Dearborn, where they use our constitution, where we say, oh, it's all religion, it's all Islam, you can do whatever you want, they're creating an unvarnished, unfiltered, unadulterated Islamic state that they cannot create, certainly in the UAE, but even in a place like Pakistan, where inevitably if you have a guy crash into a place to kill 140 people and a mayor would say,

01:21:06.740 you know, oh, yeah, yeah, that's okay. You know what would happen to that guy there?

01:21:09.960 They're not going to put up with that. So I think that's what we need to understand. A lot of people

01:21:14.620 thought, oh, in America, they would assimilate, they'd be more of, again, a decaffeinated version.

01:21:20.540 Actually, the opposite is true. If we allow the political aspects of it to form their own

01:21:28.480 independent state, we will be worse off than any Islamic country in the Middle East.

01:21:33.260 So I have one minute here. Do you think people are starting to wake up? Because this is going to be, I believe this is World War III. This is the foundation of what will become World War III, whether we're in it now or, you know, a prelude to it or not. Do we wake up in time to stop this here?

01:21:54.280 look i think to a large degree it's already too late i mean like we've been talking about

01:21:59.860 what do you do when you have what is it close to four million since 9-11 um it's it's tough but i

01:22:08.260 think at a minimum we need state attorneys general and doj to unravel every terror funding mechanism

01:22:16.280 and shut down those places are they doing it this is what you do for a living you've watched those

01:22:20.880 things. Are they doing it? No, no, I have not, I have not seen a mosque shut down. There is no

01:22:27.440 right to be funded by Qatar and Turkey. That is not a fundamental right. We could block that

01:22:31.760 funding. Obviously any non, you know, non-citizen that is saying I am Hezbollah, we are Hezbollah,

01:22:38.000 they need to go home. But I would argue even naturalized, that's the final step there.

01:22:42.420 If you turned out to be a supporter of that, you could not have sworn to abjure all allegiance to

01:22:49.440 foreign sovereign and and these are all things we need to look at daniel is always good to talk to

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01:24:13.200 if you if you are uh not listening to the torch man you you really miss it uh because jason does

01:24:26.520 while i'm in commercials he covers some of the stuff that we just don't have time to cover

01:24:29.920 and i just want to say two words watch this he's gonna start foaming at the mouth

01:24:33.680 caesar chavez

01:24:35.000 there's a story about caesar chavez finally the left is starting to say oh maybe that guy wasn't

01:24:43.700 so great you think i'm about to sprawl okay who is that guy for those who don't know so caesar

01:24:50.020 chavez he was the guy that you know one of the original og union guys that was specifically

01:24:55.340 about migrant farm workers things like that he would like beat people in you know migrants

01:25:02.340 coming across he would beat them you have to join it was all about unions it wasn't really about

01:25:06.960 migrants yeah and for some reason none of that and i'm going to read you quotes in the insider feed

01:25:11.600 that will blow your mind but for some reason they never held his feet to the fire ever never cared

01:25:17.060 never when will we start calling these progressive crazy madmen by what they actually are they're not

01:25:24.640 they're all bad dudes they hid this stuff would never talk about it but now it sounds like they

01:25:30.520 found one story that they can't hide from it seems like but he's been called out for uh inappropriate

01:25:37.520 relationships with both women and apparently minors no and they're canceling Cesar Chavez

01:25:44.700 celebrations celebrations all over the country it's starting to happen finally and it's weird

01:25:50.860 because they seem to care about things happening with children sometimes and not other times I mean

01:25:56.680 I don't know how you think straight if you're on the left.

01:26:01.480 I don't know how you stay sane.

01:26:03.600 I really don't.

01:26:04.280 Because how do you keep up with the things that constantly are changing?

01:26:08.120 Congratulations, Cesar Chavez.

01:26:09.600 Good job.

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01:27:24.920 entertainment, enlightenment, and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:27:34.580 You know we have talked a lot about the green and red alliance. Green, Islam, red,

01:27:39.600 communism. And I started talking about it before I even knew what that was at a

01:27:44.260 chalkboard when I said the communists, the anarchists, the socialists, and the

01:27:48.560 Islamists will all work together for the destruction of the West, the Western

01:27:52.200 world and the united states of america well that's that's where we are now um and if you look at our

01:27:57.960 cities dearborn green uh you look at minneapolis green but also a lot of red there you look at

01:28:06.360 seattle parts of california it's all red you don't need the green the red is destroying it

01:28:12.600 so let me talk a little bit about that red that is destroying uh seattle let me just tell you

01:28:19.160 you what's happening in seattle and and anybody who happens to be listening and you're in seattle

01:28:23.080 washington state get the hell out now get out soylent green is people don't eat it get out

01:28:31.260 it's bad and i'll explain in 60 seconds first most people set up their financial life at a specific

01:28:37.400 moment in time they make the best decisions they can with the information that they have

01:28:40.920 without really thinking about it you kind of left everything to continue on autopilot for years i

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01:28:50.740 with her husband who has now been dead for quite some time and i'm like mom this is going to go

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01:29:48.220 and terms. I have to tell you, I say something and I always, I never used to, but I always say,

01:29:53.060 please don't hold this against me. Before I say the next phrase, I grew up in Seattle.

01:29:58.440 Please don't hold that against me. Because now Seattle is insane and it's full of insane people.

01:30:05.500 but when i grew up the skyline meant something you know it was it was different the glass towers

01:30:12.980 had just started to go up and the the global companies and and and boeing i remember i remember

01:30:19.460 when they were going to name the uh they were looking for a name for the seahawks and they had

01:30:22.940 a contest name name the football team for seattle and i was driving in the car with my father and i

01:30:28.520 said dad and it must have been 10 okay what 10 year old boy this is dad it's the home of the

01:30:34.380 Boeing. They should be called the Jets. And he just looked at me like, you are not my son.

01:30:41.020 I don't know how you are actually a boy. But anyway, apparently that was already taken by

01:30:47.120 some other team. But I remember growing up and it was a really cool place and it stood for

01:30:52.680 something. It was the headquarters of innovation in a city that was all about America's future.

01:30:58.480 And it was rough and tumble. The loggers were there and they're the ones who started it and

01:31:03.060 the pioneers. Now, in Seattle, nearly one-third of the office space is empty, 35% at the core.

01:31:12.660 More than a quarter of all of the office space all across the city is vacant. Entire buildings

01:31:19.020 are dark at noon. Elevators that carried thousands of engineers and lawyers and designers and

01:31:25.560 now move janitors and security guards through hollow floors where the lights never come on.

01:31:30.740 this is new orleans without the hurricane it's not war damage this is policy that is doing this

01:31:41.060 and the response from the city leadership shows something that is far more than incompetence it

01:31:47.840 is intentional destruction they just passed a new tax in seattle you make over a million dollars

01:31:55.300 which go ahead try to live in washington state in seattle in particular for under what 150 000

01:32:03.420 if you have a family you're at poverty level okay so a million dollars uh there you get an

01:32:09.620 extra 10 no sorry not 10 that would be madness 9.9 extra tax another 10 okay they don't have

01:32:21.320 any understanding of how an economy works seattle's incoming mayor katie wilson uh proposed

01:32:27.760 what she calls a solution now to the just the hollowing out of seattle okay here's what i would

01:32:33.840 do fix the problems get the poop off the streets get the people pooping off the streets get the

01:32:41.580 drugs off the streets clean the city up and you won't have this problem but that's not the solution

01:32:49.620 The solution is, well, the buildings are empty.

01:32:52.200 So let's tax the empty buildings.

01:32:56.320 A vacancy tax on commercial property.

01:33:00.580 On commercial property that the owners can't fill.

01:33:04.620 They can't fill because of all these other problems.

01:33:07.180 And so the city, I mean, think of this.

01:33:09.860 You're already losing money because nobody wants to rent your building.

01:33:14.540 And the city is going to fine you for it.

01:33:16.780 Like, you want the empty building.

01:33:18.520 You're getting fined because I want the empty building.

01:33:21.880 I don't want the empty building.

01:33:23.060 I'm trying to pay for the building.

01:33:24.280 I'd love to have people come in, but I, you know, I've got a huge mortgage on this thing.

01:33:29.360 I have conditions from the bank.

01:33:31.360 I can't just give it away.

01:33:33.180 You're going to get taxed.

01:33:34.940 Okay.

01:33:35.580 So you got property taxes, insurance, all of the, all of this stuff.

01:33:39.960 Vacancy is the last thing any owner wants.

01:33:42.940 Empty space space means bleeding money out every single month.

01:33:47.180 but the political theory running in seattle assumes something else entirely it assumes the

01:33:53.640 owners are choosing vacancy why why just think of this for 10 seconds like you're a thinking human

01:34:00.660 being who would do that what would be the motivation yeah yeah they're just refusing

01:34:08.660 tenants out of greed waiting for some i don't know some imaginary payday to show up so the

01:34:15.360 government steps in of seattle the government seattle steps in with a punishment pay the tax

01:34:19.500 or lower the rent or be fined that's the economic incentive lower the rent or pay the fine i mean

01:34:29.080 it would be really almost funny if it wasn't happening in one of the greatest cities in the

01:34:33.240 west coast the real building the real problem in seattle it's not a mystery i don't need the

01:34:40.240 scooby-doo van to pull up why did all the businesses leave i don't know shaggy why

01:34:47.100 they left for reasons that everyone in the country understands seattle is not known for technology

01:34:56.100 it's known now for open-air drug markets sidewalk encampments retail theft treated as a nuisance

01:35:04.920 instead of a crime. A regulatory climate where we're starting, running, or expanding a business

01:35:12.340 requires navigating a maze of taxes and mandates. You feel like a criminal if you're going to run

01:35:18.280 a business. You know the city is against you and the state is against you. Even now, Seattle

01:35:25.100 businesses, they face one of the country's most aggressive business and occupation taxes. Then

01:35:30.680 you have layered regulations the permitting system that can stall development for years on end

01:35:36.740 well companies notice they're like i don't think so so they start first thing they did let's go to

01:35:43.360 let's go to bellevue cross the lake short drive away lower taxes safer streets predictable rules

01:35:48.780 okay so everybody migrated over to bellevue the employees all followed the buildings emptied out

01:35:54.740 And now they're doing it in Bellevue. Now the state is doing what Bellevue may not have even

01:36:02.460 wanted to do, what Seattle may not even want to do. The state's just getting involved.

01:36:09.780 Now we're in places where some of the richest people and most innovative people in the country

01:36:16.120 live, the shores of Lake Washington and all the surrounding areas. Houses that would have been

01:36:20.420 sold before they even hit the market. Just a rumor that this house was up for sale. They've

01:36:26.520 been sitting quietly on what are called pocket listings, some of them for over a year. Nobody's

01:36:31.580 buying. Why would you? You know what? We should tax the sellers because nobody's buying their

01:36:37.360 house. So maybe they just didn't lower it enough. We should tax them. Good heavens. What is wrong

01:36:43.860 with you people? Instead of asking why companies are leaving, city leaders ask a different

01:36:50.080 question entirely. How do we punish the people creating jobs? How can we make their life even

01:36:56.520 harder? This whole policy is built on the assumption that markets are not signals,

01:37:05.020 they're enemies. And that's where ideology enters the picture. The political leaders,

01:37:12.500 now running major West Coast cities and states, all trained in economic frameworks that view

01:37:18.460 markets as fundamentally unjust and systems that need either constant correction or just need to

01:37:24.380 be destroyed and profit becomes exploitation property ownership is nothing but privilege

01:37:31.020 and by the way if you say one more time that you are on stolen land from these damn indians i'm

01:37:36.900 gonna i'm gonna lose my mind then give it back to them then give it back to them you were on stolen

01:37:42.020 land doesn't help me if you stole it from me it doesn't help that you're rubbing it in my face

01:37:46.700 every single day you stole it from me. Shut up. How could you be the mayor of a city that's on

01:37:53.960 stolen land? You have no intention of giving it back, so shut up. Government intervention is,

01:38:03.160 you know, Reagan said it, government is not the solution. It is the problem. And in Seattle,

01:38:08.760 they think it's the solution. You know, the problem is economies don't respond well to

01:38:16.040 ideology they respond to incentives and the incentive in seattle and washington state

01:38:22.620 they are sending a very clear message if you build here we will tax you more if if you want to create

01:38:31.580 jobs we're going to make your life a living hell if your tenants leave because you bought that

01:38:37.640 building years ago because you thought it would be filled with people because you thought the city

01:38:41.880 was going to be sane. Now, when you're trying to sell it or rent it and no one will come in

01:38:46.620 because we're not doing our job, we'll fine you. If your property struggles, we're going to punish

01:38:52.600 you for it. What do you think people are going to do in Seattle? Bye-bye. The investors sell.

01:39:01.440 If I had a building downtown in Seattle, I would have sold it long ago. But if I could sell it,

01:39:06.380 I'd be selling it right now. Sell it. And who's going to buy it? Employers relocate. This isn't

01:39:15.480 speculation. All of this is happening all across the country. California is doing the same kind of

01:39:20.700 stuff. And the pattern is unmistakable. States that reduced regulatory barriers, lowered tax

01:39:27.500 burdens after the pandemic. What happened to those states? What happened to Texas? What happened to

01:39:34.000 Florida? What happened to Tennessee? Everyone's moving there. And quite honestly, it makes me a

01:39:41.420 little nervous because do you even know why you moved? Are you just going to bring your same

01:39:45.500 damn politics with you? All the corporate relocations, the construction cranes fill

01:39:52.280 the skylines in Texas, in Tennessee, in Florida. Meanwhile, what's happening to your state? What's

01:39:58.820 happening to your city well we don't have as much traffic enjoy that while it lasts

01:40:03.840 you can't get a a rental car to go back into seattle or a u-haul go back in you're gonna

01:40:14.120 get them go out good luck finding one because nobody's bringing them back nobody's moving back

01:40:19.840 in nobody's renting property downtown you have declining commercial property what happens to

01:40:27.260 the person that owes all that money and now can't sell that building. And the tax base just eroding

01:40:33.520 underneath them. Seattle is now flirting with the same downward spiral. Commercial real estate,

01:40:43.560 I mean, the values in some West Coast cities have fallen 30 to 50 percent. Banks holding those loans

01:40:50.460 are restructuring billions in debt. Local governments depend on property tax revenue.

01:40:55.980 They're watching their future budgets shrink.

01:40:58.180 So they're going to tax you, the little guy.

01:41:00.640 The political answer is always tax more.

01:41:04.120 Always.

01:41:06.640 Major employer in Washington state called the governor to explain how difficult it is.

01:41:12.300 And he's like, you know, dude, I, you know, I'm a friendly, but it's so hostile here.

01:41:18.220 Costs are so unpredictable.

01:41:19.620 Everything you guys are doing, you're running us out.

01:41:21.560 I have to leave because I have to take my country out because I can't do this anymore.

01:41:28.600 Hey, you know what he's told?

01:41:31.020 Good, get out and make room for others.

01:41:33.700 Who says stuff like that?

01:41:36.880 What company studies Seattle's vacancy rates, the tax policies, the crime, the out-of-control crazy in the city?

01:41:45.500 Who says, you know what, I think we're going to move our company to Seattle?

01:41:49.120 Capital does not behave that way. Entrepreneurs do not behave that way. Investors don't behave

01:41:55.700 that way. And when policymakers who are just dumb as a box of rocks assume they do, entire economies

01:42:01.960 fall. It's not a mystery, Seattle. It's the result of you being communists. You treat wealth

01:42:11.800 creation as something that has to be managed, controlled, or punished. And that's why you're

01:42:18.160 being hollowed out. First, the companies leave, then the jobs, then the tax base, and finally,

01:42:24.040 the property values. People watching from outside assume this all happens slowly. That's not how it

01:42:31.020 happens. Irma decline moves gradually, and then all of a sudden, it's going to happen that way.

01:42:35.840 You watch Seattle. One day, you're going to wake up and be like, when the hell did this happen?

01:42:40.180 It's happening now. It's the tipping point. Enough businesses, families, and investors decide,

01:42:46.040 I can't live this way anymore.

01:42:47.920 And once that momentum begins, you're not going to be able to reverse it.

01:42:52.320 Because capital has memory.

01:42:54.480 Capital has options.

01:42:55.840 Rich people have options.

01:42:57.780 The tragedy is, Seattle didn't have to be like this.

01:43:00.700 Seattle is a great place.

01:43:02.260 Washington State is a great place.

01:43:03.760 A little depressing.

01:43:04.380 You'll probably kill yourself because of the rain.

01:43:06.160 But other than that, if you can get past the killing yourself because of the rain, you'd love it there.

01:43:12.740 Innovation.

01:43:14.220 Opportunity.

01:43:15.140 Growth.

01:43:16.040 that's what you should be looking into.

01:43:19.160 You cannot tax your way into growth.

01:43:22.160 You can't regulate your way into prosperity.

01:43:24.560 You can't punish people for doing well and creating jobs.

01:43:30.400 Attract builders.

01:43:32.180 How do you do that?

01:43:33.440 You get public safety in line.

01:43:35.780 You create conditions where people want to stay.

01:43:40.280 But Olympia and everybody else in Washington State don't see it that way.

01:43:44.840 I'm telling you now, if you have any hope of ever making money, you have money, you have a family, get the hell out.

01:43:53.820 They will trap you.

01:43:55.140 They will trap you and your money.

01:43:57.980 Mark my words.

01:43:59.640 If these people get control of Washington, D.C., what they do in your states, they're going to railroad the hell out of you.

01:44:08.940 Get out.

01:44:10.040 Get out.

01:44:11.020 All right.

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01:45:12.540 ricky just said to me i've got a normal person question yes that's me um just a normal girl

01:45:25.860 sitting next to a really smart guy here's my first question uh if i don't live in seattle

01:45:31.660 or the state of washington why do i care if they burn their state to the ground you would think

01:45:36.440 that but do you know what's going to who's going to be held responsible for that when those states

01:45:41.700 go down who's who do you think they're going to say we can't afford our health care we can't afford

01:45:47.300 to keep our lights on we can't afford anything they're going to push it up to the federal

01:45:51.360 government this is cloward and piven they will push it up to us and i i have to tell you this is

01:45:57.320 this is the closest thing that i would say for me that would make me go civil war i am not going to

01:46:07.400 pay for California, Oregon, Minnesota, Illinois, New York. You people all knew you have plenty of

01:46:17.680 warning. You see the writing on what is coming your way. I didn't live there. I've wanted to

01:46:23.840 live in New York City. I did. I had to get out. It was crazy. Wanted to live my whole life in

01:46:28.700 California. Can't. It's crazy. I grew up in Seattle. Can't live there. It's crazy.

01:46:33.000 okay why didn't i live there because you're crazy and we all know it's going to collapse

01:46:40.400 to hell with you if you think i'm gonna bail your ass out you want us to bail out good get rid of

01:46:47.140 all your progressive people we'll bring our people in we'll bring business people in and we'll run

01:46:51.900 the state the right way then i might consider bailing you out but i am not bailing you out

01:46:56.340 while you're sitting there going,

01:46:57.600 you know what, and Karl Marx was great.

01:47:00.360 Go to hell.

01:47:02.340 Okay, got it.

01:47:03.780 Second question,

01:47:04.880 and maybe this is because I don't understand liberal logic.

01:47:08.000 Why would you tax your base so much

01:47:11.880 that they leave the state

01:47:13.100 and then you're left with no tax dollars?

01:47:15.640 Who pays your salary?

01:47:16.860 What's the end game?

01:47:17.760 A bunch of UBI drones?

01:47:19.140 They don't care.

01:47:21.080 I really don't think they think that through.

01:47:24.500 And those who do, they just think that there's a Marxist utopia on the other side, or they're part of the Cloward and Piven thing.

01:47:32.740 We'll just push it in and we'll collapse this capitalist system.

01:47:37.500 Remember, that is an actual goal in the Green-Red Alliance, collapse the capitalist system.

01:47:44.420 That's what they're doing.

01:47:45.780 They're collapsing the capitalist system in Washington State.

01:47:49.160 And it ends the same way every single time.

01:47:53.020 Every single time.

01:47:54.500 All right, more in a minute.

01:48:15.540 All right, there's a difference between people who plan for disruptions and people who

01:48:19.280 get introduced to disruptions. Most of the time, our life runs smoothly enough. You don't

01:48:24.280 have to think about what would happen if it was interrupted but man since covid i think about that

01:48:28.920 all the time i think about how dependent we are on everything working just right um you know

01:48:36.000 probably everything's going to be fine but i mean look what's happening it's going to be interesting

01:48:40.500 to see how this works out isn't it you know you're driving around you're hoping that you know

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01:49:51.180 we're just talking on the um on the insider uh podcast that is what happens during commercials

01:50:02.780 and usually we're filling in with stuff that we just didn't have time for and i didn't get a

01:50:07.300 chance to talk about how if you have a grocery store now in washington state you're not allowed

01:50:11.720 you i mean you leave but they're claiming now that that can be the state's property because

01:50:16.020 it's essential so you can't sell the grocery store and leave um you you're providing an essential

01:50:22.460 service so the state will just take it you know the other thing is um there is a bill in uh

01:50:28.740 olympia washington get this one okay they can't hire any police officers in washington state why

01:50:33.580 oh i don't know police just don't want to work here some for some reason i wonder why so they

01:50:39.000 can't hire any police officers so what are they doing they are actually making it full police

01:50:45.120 powers, carrying a weapon, enforcing the laws of Washington state, making arrests, all of

01:50:52.140 that, if you are a non-citizen.

01:50:55.740 According to Senate Bill 5068, legislation allow non-U.S. citizens to become law enforcement

01:51:01.840 officers and prosecutors.

01:51:05.780 People who are here illegally enforcing the law and being the prosecutors.

01:51:11.280 Oh, my God.

01:51:12.100 What?

01:51:13.400 Get out.

01:51:14.280 Get out.

01:51:14.800 get out okay uh let me go to rachel uh rachel bovard she is um cpi vice president of programs

01:51:23.920 uh and she has made the best case online she can make all of this bullcrap senate speak

01:51:32.220 understandable uh because you know we've got the save act coming and we've got john cornyn on our

01:51:37.820 side now it's fixed John Thune he's still a little skeptical but Cornyn's on our side so Rachel is

01:51:45.280 here to tell us uh exactly what is happening with the Save America Act how this is working and what

01:51:52.180 we should expect Rachel hi Rachel hi there great to be back thanks for having me thank you

01:51:57.340 so what is actually happening with this so after months at this point of of the Senate

01:52:07.380 Republicans resisting doing anything on the Save America Act because, you know, they don't have the

01:52:11.280 votes. They can't do it. John Doon, to his credit, has actually moved to proceed to the House-passed

01:52:16.460 bill. He did that yesterday. So what that means is the Senate is what we call on the bill. It is

01:52:21.920 the pending business before the Senate, and they are now debating it. So once they got on the bill

01:52:27.260 yesterday, and that took the votes of Mitch McConnell voting yes, even though he opposes the

01:52:32.860 bill. Lisa Murkowski voting no and Tom Tillis taking a walk and not even showing up to the vote.

01:52:39.160 But they got the 51 votes necessary to be on the bill. And at that point, John Thune came down to

01:52:44.240 the floor and filled the amendment tree, which is just a fancy way of saying he blocked Democrats

01:52:50.640 from being able to offer any amendments. And he put before the Senate the changes that President

01:52:56.220 Trump has asked to see in the bill. So mail-in balloting, limitations on or bans of trans

01:53:02.960 surgeries for minors, protecting girl sports, things like that. So the Senate is now in a

01:53:09.340 period of deliberation. And I will say because the way the Senate has operated for the last 20 years

01:53:13.960 is a historical aberration from the way the Senate operated for 200 years. What normally happens is

01:53:18.800 you bring the bill to the, you know, in the last 20 years is they brought a bill to the floor

01:53:22.440 and the leader immediately files cloture, which is how the Senate ends debate.

01:53:26.700 He does this before the Senate has any debate, right?

01:53:29.820 And then the bill dies at 60 votes.

01:53:31.360 We all shrug our shoulders and go home.

01:53:33.940 The fact that John Thune didn't do that yesterday.

01:53:36.220 This is the way I remember the Senate working.

01:53:39.320 The Senate was the great deliberative body,

01:53:41.300 and they would stand there sometimes for days and debate stuff.

01:53:45.040 I haven't seen this since maybe George W. Bush.

01:53:50.620 Right. People still have living memories of the Senate actually functioning.

01:53:55.880 It's amazing. But, you know, the fact that that John Thune went down to the floor and didn't file closure, he did fill the amendment tree, which limits what could happen.

01:54:05.140 But he didn't file closure immediately. Just that simple fact means that right now the Senate floor is the most open that it's been in maybe a decade.

01:54:14.100 it's remarkable so what does senate republicans do now is up for debate right like they actually

01:54:22.560 do are debating the bill but like we want to see them actually put some effort into this

01:54:26.480 deliberative process which many of the senators themselves on the republican side have never seen

01:54:30.340 right the newer senators have never witnessed a senate like this so we'd like to see them lean

01:54:35.280 into the process but i think you know i'm not willing to give johnson a million bucks of credit

01:54:40.040 but he does get some from me and my book by just actually doing this, starting the process.

01:54:45.000 So do we stop calling them or writing or, I mean, what, is this just a show?

01:54:53.060 Well, that's the question. And I think, you know, we are only in this position because the

01:54:58.520 conservative movement demanded it and they demanded it without ceasing. And John Thune,

01:55:03.740 again, you know, I think felt like he had to do something. And so that's the question now,

01:55:07.160 is this all going to be performative or are we going to actually see the Senate trying to

01:55:11.840 deliberate? Because what deliberation is, is the Senate doing what it's for, trying to build

01:55:17.400 consensus, trying to physically punish obstruction, right? By forcing Democrats to the floor to talk,

01:55:23.860 forcing them into this negotiation, letting them know as a matter of procedure and a matter of time

01:55:28.960 that Republicans are not going to let up here. Even if they have to pivot to fund DHS or they

01:55:35.060 have to pivot to confirm Mark Wayne Mullen or, you know, or pass FISA, they can still come back

01:55:40.960 to this bill. And I think that's what we now want to see John Thune telegraph, that this is just not

01:55:45.300 a one and done exercise that, yeah, the Senate will be on this bill for the next week. But if

01:55:48.820 he puts up a cloture vote at the end of it and it doesn't get 60, that's just the beginning of the

01:55:52.820 process. Because remember, a cloture vote, which is how the Senate tries to end debate, doesn't

01:55:57.740 kill the bill. It simply says we don't have enough senators to end debate yet. Let's come back to

01:56:03.300 this. You know, John soon should telegraph to all of us. I'm this year. We are going to do our

01:56:07.420 darndest to pass this bill. And if it takes weeks, it takes months. We're here to do it.

01:56:12.060 Rachel, can I just be a little black rain cloud?

01:56:16.980 Yes, of course. I've been around long enough to know it's an election year. They're going to just

01:56:22.240 keep talking about this. We're doing our darndest boy. We're in here fighting like crazy. And then

01:56:27.120 the election will happen and then it's over. I mean, that's the way it always happens. I mean,

01:56:33.060 i hope this is different but well one of the reasons i think myself and a lot of people have

01:56:39.420 been proposing initially the talking filibuster on this bill in particular is because setting

01:56:44.940 aside the merits of the bill which are very good i just think it's good politics for the republicans

01:56:50.660 i do too right i don't think they've given the voters anything to turn out for and people don't

01:56:56.720 remember what you've done right they remember what you're doing that's the old political adage

01:57:00.820 I think that matters right now. And so my hope was always, Republican senators would see the benefit in actually putting their backs into it and seeing the benefit of actually trying to pass this bill. And once you start that momentum, you hope they pick it up.

01:57:13.780 So why don't they?

01:57:14.760 We'll see.

01:57:17.380 I think, one, I think there's a level of detachment that exists between Republican voters on their base, particularly in the Senate.

01:57:25.580 But two, I think, honestly, the chamber and the Republicans have just been so inured to, they've been habituated to this cycle of just, they don't do anything.

01:57:36.060 Right?

01:57:36.560 The Senate works two and a half days a week.

01:57:38.520 They don't amend things anymore.

01:57:41.080 They don't deliberate.

01:57:41.680 So this is a muscle that hasn't been flexed in a very long time, which is why simply starting the process was important to prove that they can do things and hope that in the process they remember.

01:57:52.640 Donald Trump hasn't been this clear on something in a while.

01:57:57.660 Last time he was, it was the other big, beautiful bill, and he got that through.

01:58:05.140 Is he leaning into this as hard as he needs to?

01:58:08.640 And is J.D. Vance, is there a possibility that J.D. Vance can just come in and hijack this thing and just go, okay, look, I'm in charge now?

01:58:16.500 Well, I mean, Trump has said in very clear terms, I don't want to deal with any other legislation until you get this passed.

01:58:23.280 You know, it was fascinating to me that he said that.

01:58:25.520 And then John Doon goes to the press and says, oh, the only supporters of this, it's just really an online paid influencer ecosystem.

01:58:33.340 Well, I'm sorry, the president of the United States just said this is a major priority.

01:58:37.560 I said, do you take him seriously or not? So, you know, I think Trump may have to get a little

01:58:43.780 aggressive with Senate Republicans and show him he means it. You know, in terms of Vance's role,

01:58:49.140 he does have a role as the president of the Senate, but there's not much he can do on the

01:58:53.180 floor, right? He can sit in the chair, he can make parliamentary rulings as they come up. But at the

01:58:58.020 end of the day, this still lies at the feet of John Thune. He is the only person who can corral

01:59:02.560 his conference as the leader to get them to do this and i think this is his biggest test so far

01:59:08.680 yeah i have to tell you when donald trump said that you know we're bombing iran i thought to

01:59:13.440 myself thank god i'm not the president because i don't have i don't have the stones that it would

01:59:17.240 take to start something that could end up really really well or could end up being you know world

01:59:23.240 war three i i just i just don't have that kind of confidence i'm not that guy um and uh you know

01:59:31.700 look at look at the difference we have that and then we have you know probably the the toughest

01:59:36.840 hardest thing any president has done is to make that call knowing what he knows about endless

01:59:42.920 wars and the and the way the politics are going to shake out if it goes wrong he knows all that

01:59:48.300 yet he still makes that and then you have john thune and all he has to do is support the most

01:59:53.380 popular bipartisan popular uh bill i've seen in probably 30 years and he's like well i don't know

02:00:02.780 it's going to be kind of tough i mean what a wuss what an absolute wuss well that's just it kind of

02:00:09.860 goes to the point of what is the senate for right people to your to our earlier point have living

02:00:15.680 memories of when the senate was you know had titans right when the senate moved history

02:00:21.640 just by coming to the floor and exercising the muscles of the institution to deliberate,

02:00:27.200 to persuade, to build consensus, to muscle things through by sheer physical effort,

02:00:33.440 because that is what the chamber allows.

02:00:35.920 And it's been so neutered that, you know, we are, again, even as voters,

02:00:41.480 there are people who think that bills pass the Senate at 60 votes

02:00:45.220 because every single silent filibuster is simply,

02:00:48.480 Oh, clotures in vogue, we didn't get 60.

02:00:50.660 We just shrug our shoulders and go home.

02:00:52.260 That's not the end.

02:00:53.100 It's never been the end for 200 years.

02:00:54.980 So we're trying to get the Senate to restore itself.

02:00:58.500 Well, Rachel, thank you for explaining it in a way that I think everybody can understand.

02:01:02.320 I was reading your tweets and I'm like, okay, okay, I get it.

02:01:04.760 I get it.

02:01:05.200 Because there's so much bull crap in, oh my gosh, their language is so screwed up.

02:01:10.120 But it's the way it is.

02:01:12.140 So thank you, Rachel.

02:01:12.900 I appreciate it.

02:01:13.420 God bless you.

02:01:14.100 Happy to help.

02:01:14.840 Thanks, Glenn.

02:01:15.400 All right.

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02:02:55.680 So, if you were anywhere in northeast Ohio yesterday,

02:03:01.720 you might have heard what was described as a large explosion.

02:03:07.440 And homes and windows and everything started to shake for several seconds.

02:03:12.160 And people were like, what the hell just happened?

02:03:15.960 They just verified, NASA did, that a giant meteor came streaking across Cleveland, lowish altitude.

02:03:28.920 And how big was this thing?

02:03:29.900 It was like 17.

02:03:30.900 Six foot, 17,000 pound meteor.

02:03:34.240 44,000 miles an hour.

02:03:37.700 44,000 miles an hour.

02:03:39.880 Six foot, 17,000 pounds.

02:03:42.160 It was 50 miles above Lake Erie when the flash was detected.

02:03:47.980 The reason why I bring this up, it's Cleveland.

02:03:49.780 You know what else is in Cleveland?

02:03:51.020 I just think it's so appropriate.

02:03:52.540 You know what else is in Cleveland?

02:03:55.420 Who arrived in a meteor?

02:03:59.520 Superman, right?

02:04:01.300 Superman came on a meteor, crashed in Kansas, and that's the story.

02:04:06.660 But Superman was actually invented or first written about by a guy named Jerry Siegel, who was a kid in Cleveland.

02:04:20.200 And the Superman house, Brad Meltzer and I, he called me up really early on our relationship.

02:04:27.980 And he's like, Glenn, they just found the Superman house.

02:04:30.600 They just found the original Superman drawings.

02:04:33.040 Jerry was a kid and his younger brother, it was like 1932,

02:04:36.780 and they're freaking out about Hitler and about what is happening to the Jews,

02:04:43.380 et cetera, et cetera.

02:04:44.180 And they're freaking out because the whole world is on fire.

02:04:48.020 And so his older brother says, no, no, don't worry.

02:04:50.760 There's this Superman.

02:04:51.980 He's a man of steel.

02:04:53.120 He can do anything.

02:04:55.520 And in their bedroom, he started drawing Superman drawings on the wall.

02:05:01.340 so brad calls me up years ago and he said glenn they just found the superman house went up uh was

02:05:09.780 was going to be demolished and he said somebody went in they ripped the wallpaper off of the

02:05:16.420 bedroom where jerry and his brother used to sleep and there's all the original superman he's like

02:05:21.680 we've got to we got to save this house and so we worked together to buy the house and save the

02:05:26.500 house so now you can go to cleveland and see the superman uh superman house which is really cool

02:05:33.480 so is your theory that the asteroid crash yeah i think superman arrived where he always arrives

02:05:39.560 when there's really trouble you know i mean it's like trouble that no human can solve

02:05:44.380 superman is someplace probably drowning in the bottom of lake erie now he's like crap i came

02:05:49.500 this whole way and i landed in the water i can't swim uh but uh i just i just thought when i saw

02:05:55.900 that yesterday i thought wow that is that's a cool coincidence but i thought you didn't believe

02:06:01.160 in coincidence no superman is here i'm telling you wouldn't it be nice um by the way tomorrow

02:06:06.700 today there's something you should know um 6 p.m tommy robinson uh and i sat down for an

02:06:13.300 interview yesterday it was live for the insiders yesterday um and you'll be able to see it now

02:06:18.180 we're releasing it early usually podcasts come out for everybody on uh saturday um but you're

02:06:23.820 going to be able to see it's released tonight everywhere at 6 p.m. Tommy Robinson and I sat

02:06:29.080 down, which reminds me, I want to go to Europe and be a part of his, or to England and be a part of

02:06:34.520 his deal in May. That's so cool that your budget guy is sitting right next to you to have this

02:06:40.100 conversation. But anyway, he was a fascinating guy and it's a look at what's happening to Europe,

02:06:48.320 England, but more importantly, what's happening here in the United States. I think he's one of

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02:07:22.400 Thank you.

The Glenn Beck Program - March 18, 2026

Joe Kent's Resignation： The Questions We SHOULD Be Asking ｜ Guests： Daniel Horowitz & Rachel Bovard ｜ 3⧸18⧸26

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