The Glenn Beck Program - September 02, 2026


Jury Intimidation? Clancy Trial on the Ropes After Supporter ARRESTED | Guest: Jon Ronson | 9⧸2⧸26


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00:01:55.600 Hello, America. It looks like it might be a hung jury. We're going to talk about that. What does that mean? Why is that happening? Because there's actually five different outcomes. It's not, you know, not guilty or insane.
00:02:10.060 There's five different outcomes from this, and somebody is saying, I'm not moving.
00:02:15.820 I'm not budging, and it could be six people.
00:02:18.400 It could be one person.
00:02:19.260 We don't know, but it has us reading the T-shirt colors of people now.
00:02:24.640 I mean, well, it's appropriate.
00:02:27.840 It's in Massachusetts.
00:02:28.440 It's almost witchcraft what's happening right now.
00:02:31.720 Also, Charlie Kirk trial allowed to go forward.
00:02:34.760 We're going to get into that, and something Jason and I were talking about.
00:02:40.060 When we first came in, we were talking about the news, and he said,
00:02:43.140 Hey, I heard you talking about something.
00:02:45.280 Have you watched?
00:02:46.280 And we started talking about what we both watched on TV,
00:02:48.700 and I think we're going to start there because it's remarkable.
00:02:51.980 And we're going to talk about it in 60 seconds.
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00:04:20.460 bring you in on this because you brought up something. He said, you know, I heard you talking
00:04:25.720 about Pendragon, the Pendragon cycle. And this is something Jeremy Boring has been working on
00:04:31.540 And it's been very controversial in, you know, some circles, you know, of insiders.
00:04:38.920 And it's controversial because how much money it costs and everything else.
00:04:42.800 And it just came out on Amazon.
00:04:46.420 And so I sat down yesterday with my wife and I thought, I'm going to, let's just see if this is any good.
00:04:52.700 within the first 45 seconds the response out of my mouth was wow i can see why this costs so much
00:05:02.100 money it is beautiful jeremy wrote the story i think it's based on a book but he wrote it for
00:05:08.580 rewrote it for television he directed it uh he produced it um shockingly he didn't star in it
00:05:15.020 as well um but it is if you if you like the sword in the stone if you like you know um uh you know
00:05:26.800 the two towers or lord of the rings you're gonna like this however with an exception of the hobbit
00:05:34.800 lord of the rings that's not about that's about good and evil and that is about um christ the way
00:05:42.440 it was written. Not necessarily the way it was produced, but the way it was written.
00:05:46.160 And you can still see that. But almost everything on television now is about witchcraft and,
00:05:51.660 you know, all of this crap. Not much is about Christianity. So I start watching this, 0.99
00:06:01.000 and it starts with pagan gods and everything else. And I'm not going to give anything away,
00:06:05.640 but it doesn't last with the pagan gods very long and nowhere on television are you getting
00:06:12.680 that kind of message in a good quality series i mean with an exception of i mean this is up there
00:06:19.680 with um uh what's the the chosen i mean this is as well done as the chosen and i only watched the
00:06:30.220 first episode you know i said to i said a lot of pagan stuff i think it's going to turn to
00:06:35.660 christianity and jason you watched the second episode and that's where it turns hard yeah i
00:06:41.020 think it i think it kind of turns towards the end of the first episode but it really goes hard on
00:06:45.000 the second episode and glenn i had the same moment when i was watching last night because i didn't
00:06:50.480 read the books i knew nothing about i don't know anything about it either nothing and then i'm
00:06:55.200 watching it, and I had the same realization when I was a child, maybe eight years old, watching
00:07:00.860 Ben-Hur with my father. And my father, he was a Church of Christ preacher, you know, always,
00:07:08.040 you know, always directing the top, you know, everyday topics towards some kind of biblical
00:07:11.700 perspective, which is awesome. But in entertainment, it was always kind of, I guess, tiring for me as
00:07:17.940 an eight-year-old boy. And he was like, well, let's watch this movie. This is awesome, you know,
00:07:21.640 and Ben-Hur, and I was like, oh, the swords, you know, and the races, and the Romans, this is
00:07:25.840 awesome, and then at the end of the movie, you're like, oh, dad, I see what you did here, but I like
00:07:32.380 it. I see what you did here, Jeremy Boring, and I really like it. It's amazing. You know, the opening
00:07:38.720 scene where, you know, they're worshiping Baal, and it's Atlantis, and the bulls are coming out,
00:07:47.320 and they're doing these amazing, I mean, it's like bullfighting,
00:07:51.680 except instead of waving a cape, you jump over the bull.
00:07:56.100 Do you have any idea if that was ever done?
00:07:58.160 Because that was the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
00:08:00.520 No.
00:08:01.100 Do you know if that was ever done like that?
00:08:03.320 I don't know, but it was like, I think it was in Atlantis,
00:08:05.820 so I think the source material might be hard to get.
00:08:08.660 Okay, all right.
00:08:09.660 I agree with you.
00:08:10.420 I agree.
00:08:10.880 I see.
00:08:11.400 I see where you're going.
00:08:12.460 I see where you're going.
00:08:14.280 But it's really good.
00:08:16.220 Now, I will say that one of the stars, the woman who I think plays the Lady in the Lake, is to quote Jason a smoke show.
00:08:33.140 To quote me?
00:08:34.700 To quote you.
00:08:35.540 Me?
00:08:35.960 That's your phrase. 0.53
00:08:37.380 A total smoke show. 1.00
00:08:38.780 She's a total smoke show. 1.00
00:08:40.740 She is not hard to watch on television.
00:08:45.520 I will tell you, though, that Jeremy, I think, knew that. 0.88
00:08:50.520 And I don't think I've ever seen lower cut clothing on a woman than on the Total Smoke Show.
00:08:59.420 So it does get distracting from time to time.
00:09:02.100 You're like, I don't even know what she's saying.
00:09:03.620 The sound could have been off for the last half hour.
00:09:05.680 And I don't even I don't know.
00:09:07.500 She is so beautiful.
00:09:08.840 She is so beautiful.
00:09:09.700 um but uh you know at one point she comes off of her horse uh and she's in and i don't even know
00:09:18.360 how much this of this is true i'd like to do some research on the show and see what's true and
00:09:23.820 what's not it's fourth century england and so they um these two monks are coming in to reclaim
00:09:29.320 this kind of little church area uh you know for christ and reclaim it and they've been you know
00:09:35.240 driven out and they're coming back and there's this horse in front of it and they come in and
00:09:39.180 there she is sitting in you know bathed in the sun and they fall to their knees and they're like
00:09:43.820 you know it's the virgin mary and they so they start worshiping her because they think it's
00:09:48.860 she's a vision and the virgin mary and she's like i don't know who this virgin mary is and they both
00:09:53.900 get up and they're like oh well the virgin mary it's the mother of our lord blah blah blah i'm
00:09:57.940 thinking these guys these guys these guys are not real men because the real man would have stayed
00:10:03.860 on their knees and went, good, okay, so come here often.
00:10:08.800 I mean, it was, it's pretty bad.
00:10:11.680 That was the one hit on the, you know, the reality.
00:10:16.820 So I get it, it's fantasy, but when you think that it's the Virgin Mary
00:10:20.960 and she says, no, I'm not the Virgin Mary.
00:10:22.740 Yeah.
00:10:23.080 The first words out of your mouth then should pivot to how you doing.
00:10:27.200 How you doing?
00:10:28.200 So, how you doing?
00:10:31.240 One of them immediately becomes your wingman.
00:10:33.480 I mean, I don't understand what happened there.
00:10:36.140 These guys, it was not real.
00:10:37.620 It was not reality at all.
00:10:39.080 But anyway, check the Pendragon cycle.
00:10:44.340 It's on Amazon.
00:10:45.840 I mean, I have to tell you, you know, I'm not getting anything for this.
00:10:50.840 It is so controversial in our circle of friends. 0.96
00:10:56.360 You know, it's ridiculous. 0.67
00:10:58.740 You know what? 0.95
00:10:59.200 Can I just, let me just say something.
00:11:00.760 And this is really inside baseball.
00:11:02.460 so I'm already here. Can we stop all this, please? Can we please stop? I don't consider
00:11:11.600 anyone a competitor, and I don't know why everybody is considering everyone else a
00:11:17.780 competitor. We're not competitors. You know who we're competing against? Satan. We're competing
00:11:23.820 against evil. We're competing against Marxism. We're competing against apathy. We're not competing
00:11:30.740 against each other. Stop it. Stop. Why we don't all promote one another, why we don't all help
00:11:40.580 each other, why we all don't celebrate everybody's victories when they have it is beyond me.
00:11:46.740 It's beyond me. Here is a series, a TV series, and the downside is I don't think another season's
00:11:55.100 going to be made unless this is wildly popular, and I think it could be if people will search it
00:12:00.340 out because it's nowhere you have to go to the search box and find it pendragon cycle and you'll
00:12:05.960 love it you will love it you can watch it with your family you will love it um but um that's
00:12:13.420 the only downside this is this is as good as anything i have seen in that genre and it was
00:12:22.200 done by our guys modern day it was done to promote christianity it's not hokey in any well except for
00:12:32.340 the you know except for the scene when they're in the church with the late it's not hokey in any way
00:12:36.900 uh and and people are like i don't know if i don't know if they should talk about it i don't
00:12:43.860 know if we should talk about are we gonna say something about yes we're gonna say something
00:12:47.960 about it and everybody should say something about it it's a victory and you know what some people
00:12:53.580 are like you know uh jeremy boring he's got such an ego i don't you know what watch it watch it
00:13:00.000 maybe he has an ego maybe that's a healthy ego maybe he has a reason for having an ego
00:13:04.840 that was beautiful and well done it's one of the best things i've seen our side produce
00:13:14.060 and i say the same thing about uh angel angel has made a few movies that are beautiful and great
00:13:23.760 and thank god somebody's finally doing it we're not getting just hokey movies anymore we can make
00:13:31.020 exciting movies and it doesn't clash with our values you want to change america you must
00:13:39.420 change it in the culture first. How did we get here? How did we get here? We got here because
00:13:46.900 we didn't think culture mattered. We didn't think it mattered. We didn't do anything about it.
00:13:55.040 We just kept saying, well, they can do it. They can have it. They can do it. Well, they do it
00:13:59.540 better than us. I'm concentrating on business. I'm concentrating on this. Well, I, you know what?
00:14:05.740 the universities are crazy but they're always going to be crazy things will never change
00:14:10.540 we gave them the culture now for a few people trying to regain the culture trying to regain 0.97
00:14:18.760 education trying to go out and they're busting their ass for it i mean jeremy i mean i gotta
00:14:25.700 tell you that cost a lot and everyone involved the cost were more than just money
00:14:31.480 everybody involved on all sides of that sacrificed something and lost something for it
00:14:39.400 it was it's i can't say for them to me it was worth it but only if you watch it
00:14:48.220 and don't pick sides god i'm tired of the sides i was just having i had a meeting with
00:14:56.860 somebody yesterday and they were talking about some other issue and everybody was like well
00:15:03.660 I don't know the side this side and that side and this woman I was meeting with she said are
00:15:08.820 you sick of the sides as much as I am and I'm like I can't take it anymore I mean I have to tell you
00:15:15.160 God doesn't need any of us he doesn't need any of us if he did he wouldn't be God he doesn't need
00:15:21.440 any of us. His will's going to be done whether you like it or not, okay? Whether you participate
00:15:27.840 or not, it's going to be done. You won't do it, you'll find somebody else. The thing is,
00:15:34.780 he's inviting you to be a part of it. He's inviting to partner with you. The end is already
00:15:43.400 written. He's saying, you want to be involved? It's going to be really, really cool. It's going
00:15:47.140 to be really, really cool. He's asking all of us to do it. And what are we doing? We're arguing
00:15:56.720 amongst each other, whether it's our faiths, our businesses. Right now, you look at what's
00:16:03.600 happening in Congress. I have no time for the Republicans. Zero. I'm so done with the Republican
00:16:11.320 Party. I'm done with them. However, I've been here since the beginning of the Tea Party.
00:16:17.140 You know how long we have worked to be able to get somebody, not with his lack of charisma, not with his family problems, but somebody who will vote the way Ken Paxton votes?
00:16:34.340 Do you know how long we've worked for that?
00:16:37.700 We are so close.
00:16:40.200 We are so close.
00:16:41.220 You finally got rid of Cornyn.
00:16:43.360 and because people want to play sides because some people are pissed off about Cornyn and
00:16:50.680 Cornyn is pissed off he's putting his country in the secondary position his pole position is
00:16:58.300 well I'm pissed off didn't go my way
00:17:01.120 I mean I don't get it I don't get it we have so many great things happening right now
00:17:11.780 there are so many people making so many inroads do you realize it's been two years since you
00:17:20.500 thought the entire country was on fire we all thought we're doomed we're doomed do you feel
00:17:28.840 we're doomed right now or do you feel like we're still struggling i feel like we're still struggling
00:17:35.420 And if we're not careful, we'll be doomed right back where we were or worse.
00:17:45.720 And what are we doing?
00:17:47.080 We're arguing.
00:17:49.580 My side, your side, I don't like that guy.
00:17:51.840 I don't like this guy.
00:17:53.840 How about we just go with principles?
00:17:56.000 How about we just say, hey, let's vote and do the right thing.
00:18:00.240 let's change our families and support the culture that is going to change everything.
00:18:06.040 You're not going to change this country through elections.
00:18:09.400 You're going to change this country through culture.
00:18:14.340 That's what got us here, culture.
00:18:17.700 We now are making massive inroads while they're collapsing.
00:18:22.660 Nobody's going to their movies. 0.99
00:18:24.760 Nobody's watching their crap. 1.00
00:18:27.200 They're bankrupting themselves. 1.00
00:18:29.720 Their egos are out of control.
00:18:32.100 They're not listening to you. 1.00
00:18:34.240 They keep making the same crap over and over again. 0.96
00:18:36.780 Meanwhile, we've got people who are actually doing stuff that's good. 0.98
00:18:40.600 Watch it.
00:18:41.600 Watch it and support it, will you?
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00:21:33.920 I want to talk to you a little bit about something that happened in Provo.
00:21:38.700 And I'm going to run out of time on this.
00:21:42.200 But yesterday, closing arguments.
00:21:44.740 And Judge Tony Graff ruled that the Charlie Kirk case can go to trial.
00:21:49.640 On every count.
00:21:51.780 I can't believe that was ever in question.
00:21:58.400 Robinson entered a plea of not guilty.
00:22:01.520 Erica Kirk sat in the courtroom with her mother-in-law.
00:22:04.820 And during the prosecution's rebuttal, she put her head in her hands.
00:22:08.820 And the woman next to her just rubbed her back.
00:22:10.760 I mean, and she had a reason to put her head in her hands. 0.90
00:22:12.940 You would not believe what this defense attorney said.
00:22:15.800 and it's the word true that I want to focus on.
00:22:21.360 The word true.
00:22:23.080 And we go there next.
00:22:25.160 Also, up to Boston, what's happening with the possible hung jury.
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00:24:08.400 Before I get into what's happening in the courtrooms in America quickly,
00:24:15.180 I want to tell you, I just sent Ricky something.
00:24:17.640 I just, uh, uh, just a tweet.
00:24:19.520 I have the no, the no ball prize with John Thune's face on it.
00:24:23.680 Um, not to be confused with the Nobel prize.
00:24:26.280 This is the no ball prize awarded for sacklessness. 0.83
00:24:29.620 Um, and, uh, I'm going to be sending this to him and I just announced it on, uh, she's
00:24:34.840 going to tweet it out here for me.
00:24:36.000 But I will tell you, I'm not going to say this.
00:24:39.220 Ricky, go ahead and say your, well, I don't know if he's completely sackless today.
00:24:42.960 Go ahead.
00:24:43.620 He is.
00:24:44.200 But go ahead.
00:24:44.660 You can make your cue a little bit.
00:24:45.340 Oh, great.
00:24:45.920 You're going to turn me into the villain of this show.
00:24:49.440 But yes, I mean, some credit to Thune.
00:24:53.100 He did ask President Trump to unleash his war chest to help Paxton out in Texas.
00:24:58.840 Whether or not he's doing that because he thinks it's the right thing to do for the country.
00:25:03.940 No.
00:25:04.120 Or because he doesn't want to, you know, unleash the senatorial war chest.
00:25:09.400 You know, someone can judge that.
00:25:11.160 That's not me.
00:25:11.680 Yeah, no.
00:25:12.260 Well, it is me.
00:25:12.960 I'm going to be a judge.
00:25:13.720 He's still ballless and he's getting the Nobel Prize, you know, for all of his just great
00:25:19.060 work on making sure that we don't have any shenanigans with voters and voter ID.
00:25:25.100 So great job on that.
00:25:26.560 All right.
00:25:26.780 The least coveted prize in America.
00:25:28.420 Let me take you now to Provo.
00:25:34.120 One of the defense attorneys, the judge said the case can go to trial on every count.
00:25:41.020 This is for Charlie Kirk, his killer.
00:25:43.360 And what the defense attorney said out loud with his wife sitting there is,
00:25:50.300 and I want you to think, what is the one word that sticks out to you?
00:25:53.940 This is what he said, what everybody listening, camera's on.
00:25:57.520 It is true that Mr. Kirk spoke hatefully of certain groups of people.
00:26:02.220 Then he itemized it, you know, people whose gender identity doesn't conform, people who aren't, you know, strictly heterosexual, people, you know, have sex outside of marriage.
00:26:16.160 What word sticks out there? 0.98
00:26:18.180 And I got it.
00:26:18.780 I have to tell you, Richard Novak, who is the, you know, the attorney, he's just making a motive argument.
00:26:24.480 OK, the state says Robinson killed Charlie because of his relationship with his roommate.
00:26:29.360 Novak's point is that the prosecution has exactly one text message and nothing else nothing on the
00:26:35.940 phone nothing on the computer nothing in the apartment and you can't build a motive out of
00:26:40.020 a single sentence that that's a legitimate argument and it's his job to make it and the
00:26:46.060 judge to be fair agreed with the standard at this stage is only reasonable okay what's the word
00:26:54.400 however, that sticks out because he didn't build it that way. He could have said the state only
00:27:00.260 has one text and nothing else. He said that too. But what else did he say? What word carried all
00:27:11.620 the weight? Here it is. It is true that Mr. Kirk spoke hatefully of certain groups of people.
00:27:21.600 It is true. True. Not the state alleges, not Mr. Robinson may have believed, but true, stated as a finding on the record in front of the widow about a man who can't stand up and answer for himself in a proceeding where nobody is on the stand to test it.
00:27:42.960 It is true. And you know what? This is such a scumbag move. 0.88
00:27:46.980 It's the oldest move there is against a dead man. 1.00
00:27:49.580 You don't say he deserved it. 0.99
00:27:51.200 You say, well, killing him is explainable. 0.98
00:27:54.020 And you put the reason in the victim's mouth
00:27:56.840 and let the jury pool do the arithmetic on its own time
00:27:59.880 because this is true.
00:28:01.900 No, it is not.
00:28:03.280 No, it is not.
00:28:08.500 And you know what keeps us arguing with each other?
00:28:11.820 People are on our own side.
00:28:13.920 The loudest voices insisting that Tyler Robinson didn't do it are not on the left.
00:28:19.200 Candace Owens, she has spent a year telling her audience he's innocent.
00:28:24.740 Then, what, last month, month before, she publicly offered her folder of material to his defense team.
00:28:31.120 She says the federal government is lying about everything.
00:28:33.600 She suggested people inside of Turning Point, including Charlie's widow, is just, you know, perpetrating a cover-up on this.
00:28:40.860 She spent months pointing at Israel, and then in a live stream debate in August conceded,
00:28:47.260 well, I can't really prove that.
00:28:49.080 I can't say Israel shot him.
00:28:51.080 Okay, wait, what?
00:28:52.860 Now, here's the real proof in this pudding.
00:28:55.400 Robinson's own defense lawyers are not touching her file.
00:29:00.760 They filed their motions without one word of what she had.
00:29:04.820 in a court they went out of their way to put distance between themselves and the theories
00:29:11.120 the men trying to save the defendant from the death sentence looked at all the material went
00:29:15.800 yeah there's nothing really there okay that should end the conversation but it won't because there
00:29:21.360 will be people people who will take this and it'll probably get in front of candace and then she'll
00:29:24.900 use it i don't really care i really don't care you know who cares because that was never about
00:29:33.440 Charlie. And what I'm talking to you is about Charlie. It's about Charlie. Charlie, Turning
00:29:43.160 Point, the president, the party, the coalition, every one of them have been a target ever
00:29:49.540 since Charlie died. And from our side. And a movement that spends the next 14 months
00:29:56.120 fighting itself over who really did it is a movement that doesn't really have to be
00:30:03.200 beaten in November.
00:30:04.880 It's being handled internally already.
00:30:12.900 Not everybody involved are grifters, okay?
00:30:17.400 A lot of them are grieving.
00:30:20.140 And a lot of people don't believe institutions anymore.
00:30:23.560 And I have to tell you, with good reason.
00:30:26.120 I've spent years telling you not to trust certain institutions.
00:30:31.240 Some would good cause.
00:30:32.160 FBI, I think you've earned that.
00:30:35.440 When you've been lied to enough times,
00:30:38.160 their lying to you about this too starts to feel like wisdom
00:30:41.680 instead of the shortcut that it is, but it is a shortcut.
00:30:46.280 A widow with her head in her hands is not a suspect.
00:30:49.340 A father who called the police on his own son is not an actor. 0.75
00:30:54.780 and just asking questions stop being questions the moment you offer to hand your file over to
00:31:01.560 the man's defense are we ever going to wake up to see that there is actual evil in the world
00:31:14.980 and be able to spot it are we are we ever going to be able to look at the same thing ever again
00:31:22.260 and go, that's evil, without somebody on our own side that we used to consider friends
00:31:28.740 looking at the same thing and going, no, you're evil.
00:31:35.060 What?
00:31:38.140 There is evil in this story.
00:31:40.200 Some of it is on a rooftop.
00:31:42.480 Some of it is in a lawyer telling a room full of people that hatred,
00:31:47.040 that Charlie had hatred was true
00:31:52.340 and that that hatred was a fair description of the dead man.
00:31:57.880 And some of it's on our own side of the aisle,
00:31:59.920 on our own platforms, being monetized
00:32:02.740 while a family waits for a jury.
00:32:10.460 We have to be able to start holding more than one thing at a time.
00:32:14.100 There's three things.
00:32:15.240 All those thoughts need to be held at once, and we have to do it.
00:32:19.860 We have to do it, or we don't make it.
00:32:30.520 Let me tell you about what's happening in Boston.
00:32:34.280 Into the fourth day, the jury in Plymouth sent the judge a note yesterday.
00:32:40.000 They can't reach a decision, okay?
00:32:42.160 there was a gasp in the courtroom judge william sullivan reminded the trial had run more than 80
00:32:48.820 witnesses more than 300 exhibits and ask you got to go back out okay you got to work you got to
00:32:55.980 work on this more you can't just give up they work six more hours and then asked to go home
00:32:59.740 they're more this morning they're back day five 23 hours of deliberation on this case that took
00:33:05.960 five weeks to try. Three children are dead. Cora was five. Dawson was three. Callan was eight
00:33:11.760 months old. And their mother has never denied the killing. Now, everyone outside the room is now
00:33:17.240 apparently an expert on what is happening inside. And let me tell you something. Nobody knows
00:33:21.700 anything. I don't know anything. Nobody knows anything. Stop going to these people who are
00:33:27.940 telling you, I know exactly what's going. No, they don't. Are they in the room? Monday, the jurors
00:33:33.580 came dressed up, colored shirts, one man in a tie, dresses. And there was one outlet that
00:33:40.340 reported that two of the women were wearing pink. Now, that's what her supporters are wearing is 1.00
00:33:46.340 pink. And that went everywhere. It was on X within an hour or so. And it's proof the jury 1.00
00:33:51.420 is compromised. An NBC reporter, who I don't know NBC is not, you know, a truth teller in my book,
00:33:58.460 but I don't know, might be telling the truth this time, said there was no juror in pink.
00:34:02.400 so we have an unverified observation assigned a motive that nobody can see producing a verdict
00:34:09.940 that nobody has heard and that's where we are we're reading clothing because clothing is all
00:34:15.420 we're allowed to read right now and we're all getting wrong here is the shape of the question
00:34:22.440 it is not guilty or innocence the jury has five choices first degree second degree murder
00:34:27.900 manslaughter which the judge added before the very end before the case went back out
00:34:33.420 not guilty by lack of criminal responsibility and not guilty okay so a deadlock doesn't mean
00:34:42.080 six people think she's a murderer and six thinks six thinks she's sick it may mean that
00:34:47.140 12 people agree she was sick but can't agree on how sick
00:34:51.660 in Massachusetts the burden runs the other way for most of the country the defense team doesn't
00:34:58.920 have to prove she was insane the commonwealth has to prove she was criminally responsible
00:35:04.860 beyond a reasonable doubt one juror that can't get there that's enough okay you know how we used
00:35:12.800 to do this because you're thinking this is a flawed system you know how we used to do this
00:35:16.000 in september in september 1670 356 years ago this week at the old bailey in london that's
00:35:29.200 our big courthouse the old courthouse in london the government had padlocked the quaker meeting
00:35:34.080 house on grace church street so the quakers gathered in the street outside and preached
00:35:38.900 anyway two men were arrested one of them was 25 years old the charge was unlawful assembly and
00:35:47.280 the jury came back and said the men had spoken in the street but they wouldn't call the assembly
00:35:52.340 unlawful so the judge sent them back okay they came back with the same answer so he told them
00:35:58.500 you know what no food no water no fire no tobacco you bring a verdict in this court will accept or
00:36:05.780 you'll starve for it. Two nights, locked in a room, no food, nothing. The young defendant,
00:36:13.700 the 25-year-old, shouted across the courtroom to them, you're Englishmen, mind your privilege,
00:36:19.600 give not away your right. One of the jurors, a man named Edward Bushell, called back, nor shall we
00:36:25.880 ever do. It's pretty dramatic for 1670. Third morning, they came out not guilty. The judge
00:36:34.460 fined every one of them and sent them to prison until they paid.
00:36:38.840 Bushell wouldn't pay. He filed for habeas corpus from a
00:36:42.540 cell. That November, the Chief Justice of the Court of Common Pleas
00:36:46.540 ruled that the jury cannot be punished for its verdict. That's where it used
00:36:50.500 to be. A judge may try to open a juror's eyes, but he can't
00:36:54.420 lead him by the nose. The 25-year-old that they refused
00:36:58.620 to convict, he left England. He sailed west.
00:37:04.460 He founded Pennsylvania.
00:37:07.000 The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were written in his city, named after him,
00:37:13.080 by men who could meet there because 12 strangers went hungry for two nights rather than say a thing that they didn't believe.
00:37:20.940 The man was William Penn, the founder of Pennsylvania.
00:37:25.540 So Massachusetts has a tool for a jury that won't move.
00:37:30.200 because before William Penn, it was starve them out until they come to a conclusion.
00:37:39.800 Everywhere it's called the dynamite charge.
00:37:42.700 It tells jurors that no future jury will be able to be better equipped than they are,
00:37:49.060 that the evidence will never be clearer than it is,
00:37:51.560 and it's desirable that this case be decided.
00:37:55.380 Judge Sullivan hasn't read it yet, but he might today.
00:37:57.840 That instruction is what you shall starve for it became.
00:38:03.040 Same purpose, better manners.
00:38:05.460 But there's a limit.
00:38:06.440 He can send them back, but not more than twice unless they agree to it.
00:38:10.800 And if they still can't agree, it's a mistrial.
00:38:13.700 Now, a mistrial is not an acquittal.
00:38:16.320 I'll tell you what a mistrial actually means in a minute.
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00:40:45.880 to 83848 okay so if they come back um with a hung jury then they have to decide
00:41:06.820 It's a mistrial, not an acquittal.
00:41:09.760 It's a mistrial.
00:41:11.080 We're going to retry her, offer a plea, or just drop it.
00:41:14.300 Her lawyer says try again.
00:41:16.820 And you know what?
00:41:18.120 There's three children that are strangled in their own home.
00:41:21.880 And I think the state, you know, should retry, honestly.
00:41:26.900 But that's five weeks, 85 witnesses, competing psychiatrist,
00:41:32.180 a woman paralyzed from the waist down,
00:41:33.820 has been in a hospital for three and a half years,
00:41:35.660 A father who would ask the world to forgive her days after burying his children.
00:41:39.960 I mean, this is not going to be easy.
00:41:42.600 However, what's probably going to happen is if there's a mistrial, she'll be institutionalized.
00:41:51.520 And then every year a judge is going to have to say another year, another year, another year.
00:41:56.040 I don't trust the judges, but that's probably what's going to be happening.
00:42:00.400 But just know this jury is not failing.
00:42:03.220 They're doing the hardest thing.
00:42:04.420 we ask people to do. Be one of the 12 and say out loud that you're not sure when 11 faces are
00:42:10.880 looking at you and everybody wants to go home. So just stop reading the pink sweaters. Let's wait
00:42:17.380 for the verdict. Okay. Next, data centers, the good, the bad, and the ugly. What's true about
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00:44:25.000 You know, one of the biggest topics, probably one of the more important topics that we deal with right now are these data centers.
00:44:31.440 And you know how I feel both good and bad about AI.
00:44:36.700 And I've been making the case that we need to negotiate.
00:44:40.100 And I understand if you are against these data centers, I understand, especially if you live in a rural community and you're like, I don't want my community changing.
00:44:48.960 I live here for a reason.
00:44:50.180 I like being out in the middle of nowhere.
00:44:52.200 I totally get it.
00:44:53.780 But if you are a community, a dying town or whatever, and you are not opposed to a data center,
00:45:02.520 and I'm going to go through all of this, you need to negotiate.
00:45:05.560 Instead of just saying no or just saying yes, negotiate.
00:45:08.740 Saying yes is just as bad as saying no without negotiation.
00:45:12.980 So I want to give you green, yellow, and red lights on the data center.
00:45:19.000 And it's probably going to take me about an hour to go through this.
00:45:21.080 So I'm going to take this hour and just talk about these data centers.
00:45:24.420 What's true and what's not?
00:45:26.180 And I'm going to give you the good, the bad, and the ugly.
00:45:29.200 The green, I'm going to start there.
00:45:31.960 And that means, yes, these things are true or mainly true, and you need to pursue them.
00:45:39.480 All the way down to the red, which is this is an out-and-out lie.
00:45:43.080 Don't believe that.
00:45:44.340 You're in a wild goose chase.
00:45:46.640 But the green, you don't really need to go past the green.
00:45:49.340 If you want reasons to not be for data centers, you just look at the things on my list here that I'm going to start with in the green and go, okay, well, those are pretty bad, but there is a solution to all of them.
00:46:01.360 But let me give you the truth and the lies, the good, bad, and ugly of data centers in 60 seconds.
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00:47:50.440 Okay, so let me give you some things about data centers that are absolutely true.
00:47:55.700 If you're skeptical about them, you need to check on every single one of these things.
00:48:00.680 And I'm going to post this, and I'm going to give you a list of questions at the end
00:48:03.940 that if you're thinking about a data center, you need to ask these questions, okay?
00:48:08.280 But these are the document things.
00:48:10.380 You know, if you're fighting a project on these grounds, you're standing on solid ground.
00:48:15.780 OK, so let me give you first the claim.
00:48:19.040 My electric bill is going up because of this.
00:48:21.660 That's partially true.
00:48:23.620 Partially true.
00:48:24.800 And the honest version is stronger, I think, than the exaggerated one.
00:48:29.040 The national electricity prices are up 42 percent over the last five years in places with the heaviest data center concentration.
00:48:38.920 It's much worse than that.
00:48:40.160 Between March 21 and March 2026, average residential rates rose about 94% in Washington, D.C., 74% in Maryland, 73% in Maine, 58% in New York.
00:48:54.160 This is per Federal Energy Information Administration data, okay?
00:48:58.180 So here's the honest thing.
00:49:01.300 Yes, the data centers are a driver, but they are not the driver.
00:49:06.580 In a commission study by the firm E3, and full disclosure, paid for by the data center coalition, they found roughly half of the recent capacity price spike came from load growth, mostly data centers, and roughly half came from power plant retirements.
00:49:26.600 Now, we know this because we told you this when Biden was doing it.
00:49:30.340 You know it to be true. You cannot shut down power plants and then have the same demand and even increased, and I told you at the time, there's going to be increased demand.
00:49:43.080 You can't have that without your electricity rates rising.
00:49:47.500 So, yes, in some places, data centers are driving that number, but they are a factor, not the factor.
00:49:56.040 A bigger factor is, in some states, the power plants being shut down because of the Green New Deal.
00:50:05.980 Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory 2026 report points out equipment costs, an aging grid, state clean energy mandates, as well as other additional causes.
00:50:16.560 Now, watch out for this number. You're going to hear people say near data centers say they're paying 267% more.
00:50:26.040 no, that figure is a wholesale price increase, not a residential bill, okay? Supply costs are
00:50:33.340 only about 30% to 50% of what shows up in your bill, the rest of transmission, distribution,
00:50:38.060 and taxes. If you use the 267 number, you hear somebody use that 267% that's showing up on your
00:50:46.660 bill. It's not showing up on your bill, and you're on very weak ground, and you know if somebody
00:50:53.480 He says, 267% my electricity bill.
00:50:55.960 You know, they don't know what they're talking about, okay?
00:50:59.580 The strongest form of this argument,
00:51:02.700 utilities got at least 700 gigawatts worth of new connection requests in 2025 alone.
00:51:09.200 The entire United States consumed 477 gigawatts in 2023.
00:51:15.880 So whatever you think of AI,
00:51:18.140 a demand shock that size does not get absorbed
00:51:21.520 without somebody paying for a new generation of power plants and new wires.
00:51:27.020 It is.
00:51:27.700 The only question here is who pays for it.
00:51:30.700 And that's why I say negotiate.
00:51:33.180 If you don't negotiate, they're going to be built elsewhere,
00:51:36.200 and then what's going to happen?
00:51:38.020 You're going to get stuck with the bill.
00:51:39.900 You need to negotiate for these things.
00:51:42.620 Next one. 0.86
00:51:43.940 They're going to stick the rate payers with the bill for infrastructure.
00:51:51.100 It's legitimate, and it's exactly what regulators are now scrambling to prevent and what you should be scrambling to prevent.
00:52:01.020 The mechanism that people worry about is absolutely real.
00:52:05.000 A utility builds substations, the lines, the generation to serve one enormous customer, but they spread that cost across everybody.
00:52:18.460 No, it's called cost shifting.
00:52:22.000 And this is the central fight in energy regulation right now.
00:52:25.820 You're not shifting that cost onto me.
00:52:28.280 No.
00:52:29.120 In fact, because the power lines are going to need to carry more power everywhere and it's the data center,
00:52:35.100 I want you to pay for those power lines for the rest of the infrastructure.
00:52:40.340 This is a fight that's actually being won in many places.
00:52:44.080 As of May 2026, according to the Edison Electric Institute, 23 states have approved at least one large load tariff.
00:52:54.160 What's that?
00:52:55.360 It's a separate rate class that requires giant customers to pay their own freight.
00:53:01.480 Seven more are pending right now.
00:53:03.320 Texas passed, what was it, SB6.
00:53:08.220 Oregon has passed the Power Act in August 25.
00:53:10.920 Oklahoma passed the Data Center Consumer Ratepayer Protection Act in 26.
00:53:16.060 South Dakota, SB-135 in March.
00:53:19.840 Virginia's GS-5 tariff requires large loads to cover 85% of transmission capacity costs during ramp-up.
00:53:27.640 June 2026, the FERC ordered grid operators nationwide to justify their large load rules or change them.
00:53:36.240 So more than 300 data centers are falling under these bills and they were filed over 30 states in the first six weeks of 2026 alone.
00:53:50.060 So that is good. You need to know, is your state part of those? I just read, if your state's not doing this, you're in trouble. You're in trouble.
00:54:00.900 And the catch is, and it's a real one, is that even Virginia, they had a cost allocation
00:54:08.880 reform on the books, and it still saw the regulators approve $11.24 in monthly increase
00:54:15.740 for the typical residential customer in 2026.
00:54:18.800 A tariff will help, but it's not a force field.
00:54:21.400 So you need to ask this, does my state have a large load tariff?
00:54:25.380 If not, why is my county approving a project before my state has one?
00:54:31.800 Okay, you've got to have that.
00:54:34.400 Here's another one I had not heard, but it is disturbing.
00:54:38.520 These data centers, the noise will be unbearable is the claim.
00:54:43.100 And it's true, and it is from what I read, probably the most underrated impact of all of them.
00:54:49.600 The cooling systems and the rooftop fans have to run 24-7.
00:54:53.600 That is a constant low-frequency hum, not an occasional disturbance.
00:54:59.160 The industrial diesel backup generators have measured at 85 decibels in the small end and up to 100 to 105 decibels for large units.
00:55:08.700 That's jackhammers or, you know, jet noise overhead.
00:55:13.860 World Health Organization's guideline for community noise is around 50 decibels, and the generators are not purely theoretical.
00:55:22.340 After a substation fire in Loudoun County, Virginia, which they just did this.
00:55:27.840 I mean, of course, this Loudoun County, of course, they did this a foolish way.
00:55:30.580 The data centers ran on backup diesel for multiple days straight.
00:55:35.700 Residents said that it was continuous noise.
00:55:39.340 There was diesel odor and the complaints were flooding in and they couldn't do anything about it.
00:55:45.380 Okay. Chronic noise exposure is associated with sleep disruption, elevated blood pressure, cardiovascular strain. With children, it's linked to reduced reading comprehension and learning.
00:55:57.040 So, the noise ordinance, and this is the one that almost always decides local cases, noise ordinance written for traffic and lawnmowers use A-rated decibels, which systematically undermeasure exactly the low frequency hum a data center produces.
00:56:17.180 You're looking for the low frequency.
00:56:19.620 If your county's ordinance is DBA only, the facility can legally be compliant and make your bedroom or your house absolutely unlivable if you're living next to it.
00:56:32.340 Okay.
00:56:33.180 The backup generators are going to pollute our air is the next one.
00:56:37.240 Yeah.
00:56:37.880 Yeah.
00:56:38.280 And it's documented.
00:56:39.320 And the numbers on that one are not small.
00:56:41.460 Let me look at them.
00:56:42.340 Diesel exhaust contains fine particulate matter and nitrogen oxides.
00:56:47.700 The American Cancer Society links diesel exhaust to heart disease, lung disease, and cancer.
00:56:52.420 These are not fringe findings.
00:56:53.940 Assuming actual emissions run at just 10% of what is permitted, researchers estimate the generators could contribute about 14,000 asthma symptom cases and 13 to 19 premature deaths per year with public health costs in the range of $220 to $300 million a year.
00:57:11.500 Separate concern, because generators are permitted on annual limits,
00:57:15.240 a facility can legally dump close to its entire year's allowance in just a few days during an outage.
00:57:22.520 One researcher called that a health earthquake.
00:57:26.480 Okay.
00:57:28.400 Here's what you need to ask.
00:57:30.320 Because there are these Tier 4 emissions, and I'm trying to think of where this Tier 4 emissions was done.
00:57:37.060 I think it was in Memphis, and it's X.
00:57:40.220 xai installed more than 30 gas turbines for daily operations at its colossus factory okay so you need
00:57:49.500 to ask are these what you're proposing to build in our community are these tier four emissions
00:57:54.620 related how many hours a year can they run is there any on-site primary generation proposed
00:58:01.300 uh now or later okay next this one kills me and i'm going to answer it because this one is this
00:58:09.980 one is the craziest and it's it's actually true in some cases and I don't understand why other
00:58:17.260 than you have really bad politicians here's the charge they get enormous tax breaks and create
00:58:25.000 almost no jobs that's true now why is that happening I'll tell you here in 60 seconds
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00:59:54.660 okay so the charge is they get enormous tax breaks and create almost no jobs that's true
01:00:11.920 kind of okay hyperscale campus takes 2400 to 5000 workers to build that's why the unions are now
01:00:24.120 coming in and going we need these jobs once it opens however it typically runs with somewhere
01:00:30.360 between 25 and 50 permanent employees some estimates go to 200 for the largest sites
01:00:35.740 but the construction to permanent ratio is is you know is not good either way so here are the good
01:00:43.560 jobs first um good jobs has now tracked these subsidies for over a decade now they examined
01:00:51.160 11 major data center deals they found taxpayers paid an average of 1.9 million dollars in incentives
01:00:58.680 per permanent job the worst single case north carolina you can thank your politicians they
01:01:06.120 gave apple 321 million dollars in incentives for 50 permanent jobs that's about 6.4 million per job
01:01:13.680 good jobs first recommends capping the subsidies at 50 000 per job i think that's insane why
01:01:20.920 why why pay them anything they are desperate you should not be spending a single tax dollar
01:01:29.100 on inviting these people in they're desperate for places to build it you should not you fire
01:01:36.240 your politicians if they're paying them to bring these things in your politicians be saying well
01:01:43.400 we'll consider it how much you're gonna how much you're gonna pay us for it not we're gonna pay
01:01:49.240 you? No. No. Let's see. And this all comes down to negotiation. The difference in almost all of
01:02:01.660 these things is negotiation. If you know what questions to ask, and you are allowed to debate
01:02:07.420 it, and you come with a negotiating spirit. If you're coming just to shut it down and shout
01:02:12.240 these facts, you're not going to get anything. And maybe that's your goal. And you have a right to
01:02:16.200 that. Next one. They're going to take my land for the power lines. Kind of true. Kind of true.
01:02:25.700 Data center companies generally can't use eminent domain directly. Utilities can. So if utilities
01:02:33.300 are building transmission lines, whose primary purpose by their own accounting is serving these
01:02:39.020 facilities, it's going to get dicey. In Maryland, the 67-mile Piedmont Reliability Project has land
01:02:45.940 owners posting signs reading no eminent domain for corporate gain this is really important you
01:02:53.880 can't you you should be strengthening these laws because you want to make sure eminent domain is
01:03:00.480 never a problem pennsylvania farm bureau 24 000 members voted unanimously to support a data center
01:03:07.560 moratorium utilities in georgia maryland virginia indiana pennsylvania ohio wisconsin are using
01:03:13.580 threatening condemnation for these corridors,
01:03:15.960 the legal question is now being tested.
01:03:18.540 The Fifth Amendment allows for the takings of public use
01:03:22.180 and transmission lines have always qualified
01:03:24.900 because utilities serve the public.
01:03:27.400 Does that still hold when the line would exist
01:03:30.600 for only one private customer?
01:03:36.940 Kilo versus New London, does anybody remember that?
01:03:39.620 read public use broadly, but 45 states passed reform laws after that to give landowners a
01:03:47.460 stronger footing because that case was a nightmare. One farmer's line captures it. Most of his
01:03:52.600 neighbors told him there's no amount of money that would make them want the lines on their
01:03:57.480 ground. And that's true. I don't want those lines on my property either. So if that's the way you 1.00
01:04:02.740 feel, that's a good reason. Nope, they're not coming here. That's why you have to make sure
01:04:07.560 your state has passed these strengthening laws for eminent domain.
01:04:13.480 Nobody will tell us who's actually behind this project.
01:04:17.180 Both true, and it's a process failure, and it's worth being angry about.
01:04:22.800 They're moving through local approval under code names with nondisclosure agreements imposed
01:04:29.820 on public officials and with unlimited owner undisclosed.
01:04:34.940 Wait, I want to know who it is.
01:04:37.160 I want to know exactly who it is. We have to ask the right questions. I'm going to give you a few
01:04:43.800 more of these and then some of the ones that are absolutely false and then the questions.
01:04:48.240 And the point is, you can set your mind against it and it's your right. Or you can say, we need
01:04:54.720 to negotiate. But one of the things you have to negotiate is for all of these things to make sure
01:04:59.360 none of this happens in your community. None of this can happen in anybody's community. And it
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01:06:22.020 a data center put a shovel in the ground glenn gives you the list of questions you must ask at
01:06:26.860 the hearings. Stay with us on the Glenn Beck Program. So I'm talking about data centers and
01:06:45.920 the things that are true and not true about data centers. And I have to tell you, doing my homework
01:06:51.000 on this and doing research on this, there's a lot of stuff that is true about data centers that is
01:06:55.700 really, really bad that you need to be aware of. If you're all four of them, you need to be aware.
01:07:01.360 Now, remember, I'm a guy who keeps getting yelled at because I'm just recklessly for data centers.
01:07:08.320 No, I'm not. No, I am not. I am for negotiating. And unless you have values like, and I think this
01:07:15.620 is perfectly acceptable, we live out in the middle of nowhere for a reason. Our town likes our town
01:07:21.720 being really, really small and we're perfectly fine with everything else. We'll fend for ourselves.
01:07:26.760 If that's your county, I completely understand that. I live in a town like that. I live in a
01:07:32.320 town like that and I get it. Okay. So there are reasonable things to be, to say, I don't want a
01:07:40.600 data center. And there are some of these things that I told you just now, I just gave you the
01:07:44.680 worst of the worst. And I'm going to move into the yellow zone. I just gave you red, like these
01:07:50.120 things are true and they're bad and you must solve them before your town says yes because
01:07:57.380 a lot of places that have already said yes they weren't negotiating and so now they're getting
01:08:01.920 stuck with all of this bad stuff you have to negotiate and know what you're getting into
01:08:07.200 um and and you can and it can turn out to be really good and somebody just asked me glenn
01:08:11.860 would you put a data center on on your ranch well my ranch is on the side of a mountain
01:08:16.280 and it's in the middle of a national forest.
01:08:19.040 So I don't think they could build one there in the first place.
01:08:22.940 But honestly, if I had land that was big enough that they could build a data center on,
01:08:29.820 yeah, I would.
01:08:31.020 I would.
01:08:31.660 And here's why.
01:08:32.840 Because, no, let me rephrase that.
01:08:35.500 Would I build it there?
01:08:37.140 I would consider it.
01:08:38.760 Not yes, I would.
01:08:39.620 I would consider it because I would negotiate hardball.
01:08:44.300 Do I want that sitting on my land?
01:08:46.280 No, but if I could negotiate that I and my neighbors will never have property tax, we will have the best schools, we'll always have roads, and in my small town, I would say, you know what, I'll put it here, but you generate free power for my whole town because it's not that big.
01:09:07.500 You generate free power.
01:09:09.900 Everyone gets free power.
01:09:13.040 Yeah, I'd do that.
01:09:14.140 I'd put it on my land.
01:09:16.280 I absolutely would, but it would become at a very high cost.
01:09:20.900 So when you're saying, not my neighborhood, well, yeah, I'd put it in mine.
01:09:26.780 I would put it on my own land, but it's such a cost that it would be worth it.
01:09:32.540 And that's why I'm saying you've got to negotiate.
01:09:35.160 You may say, I'll never have it, and that's perfectly fine,
01:09:39.920 but don't reject it out of hand over something that may or may not be true
01:09:45.440 or can be negotiated in a way where you could benefit outrageously.
01:09:50.700 The problem that you're hearing about some of these towns
01:09:53.080 that have already built data centers,
01:09:54.320 and now I'm starting to have this problem,
01:09:56.060 yeah, because your state most likely didn't negotiate.
01:09:59.780 Your local people, they probably did a tax abatement, 0.99
01:10:03.280 the dumbest thing I've ever heard. 0.98
01:10:04.720 We're going to give you free tax. 0.99
01:10:06.680 You won't have to pay taxes if you build it here.
01:10:09.220 Why would you do that?
01:10:11.940 Bad politicians.
01:10:13.680 So now some towns are paying for it in the worst way.
01:10:16.280 Don't be one of those towns.
01:10:18.140 Let me quickly, because I'm going to post all these at glennbeck.com,
01:10:21.480 and they're all the good, bad, and the ugly about data centers.
01:10:24.740 And most of them are ugly because that's what everybody's arguing about.
01:10:27.780 So I want you to know what's true and what's not.
01:10:29.660 And the ones that are true are worth examining.
01:10:34.400 Tier two are the yellow ones.
01:10:36.080 these are dependent strictly on each specific project because people negotiated or didn't
01:10:43.940 negotiate. It'll drain our water. The honest answer is depends on the cooling system. And you
01:10:50.200 have to ask which one. And I go into which one, closed loop cooling or evaporative cooling. You
01:10:56.960 have to know which one. So data centers draining water, yep, that's one design. The other one
01:11:05.100 one doesn't. Okay. And I give you all of the ins and outs on that. My well water went bad after
01:11:10.920 they broke ground. This one is really, really hard because nobody really has evidence. You
01:11:17.600 didn't check your water beforehand. So we don't have anything to measure it against. And this is
01:11:24.440 not about the data center. This is about the construction. And there are a couple of towns
01:11:28.540 that this has happened and it looks to be really, really bad, but it's heavy earthwork. And that
01:11:34.740 does happen um and if you have a shallow aquifer uh it's going to push some of those that sediment
01:11:41.100 down into your water and that's bad okay um so you have to you have to know that in advance
01:11:48.700 you have to have you know restrictions on everything that you can you have to negotiate
01:11:53.660 on everything there's a bombshell investigation from rolling stone and the food and environment
01:11:59.980 reporting network that talks about morrow county amazon is using water that is already contaminated
01:12:08.020 with industrial agricultural fertilizer runoff to cool down its ultra hot servers when that
01:12:13.120 contaminated water hits amazon sizzling equipment it partially evaporates but all the nitrate
01:12:18.320 nitrate pollution stays behind that means the water leaving amazon's data centers will be even
01:12:23.680 more concentrated with pollutants than when it went in uh and it looks to be true but again you
01:12:30.260 have to know these things it will take it will tank my property value yeah it's location location
01:12:37.220 location um and i give you all of the reasons why and how far you have to be away from one etc etc
01:12:44.040 it'll be good for our schools that's one thing i don't i can't say that's true but it's not not
01:12:50.340 true either. It depends on the negotiation. These are the things that you need to know will not hold
01:12:56.440 up. Living near a data center will give me cancer from the radiation. No, no, not true. The honest
01:13:06.540 version of this, the EMF concern, in 2001, the WHO's International Agency for Research on Cancer
01:13:15.140 classified ELF magnetic fields as a possible carcinogen group 2B.
01:13:22.680 Do you know what also is a possible carcinogen in category 2B?
01:13:29.700 Pickled vegetables and aloe vera.
01:13:35.280 So could it give you cancer?
01:13:37.940 Yes, so could aloe vera.
01:13:40.280 So could eating pickled vegetables.
01:13:42.520 um it's waterless technology and uses no water at all that is that's false it's false um one ai
01:13:51.900 question uses a whole bottle of water that is also largely false it used to be that way it's not that
01:13:59.440 way um the data center is a secret government surveillance facility no not yet they'll cause
01:14:09.620 blackout so my lights will go out overstated um uh but could be and again it's all in the
01:14:18.300 negotiation so let me take a quick break and i'm going to come back and give you the questions you
01:14:24.180 should be asking you have a hearing in your town here are the questions you should be asking about
01:14:31.040 the data centers that will get the right information all of this by the way is going
01:14:36.120 to be available at glennbeck.com. We continue with just that last segment here in just a second.
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01:16:03.800 Likes aren't love.
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01:16:09.680 Real people still matter.
01:16:12.680 Glenn Beck, back in a moment.
01:16:14.780 Glenn Beck is on.
01:16:16.100 so i am posting at glennbeck.com the good bad and the ugly the truth about data centers the
01:16:36.180 things that we know are true the things that we are dependent on you know which direction things
01:16:41.460 are going um and then things that are absolutely not true and in the end i've got about uh what is
01:16:46.520 it 10 12 15 questions here um and i'm not going to go through all of them but you have to know
01:16:52.440 about cooling you have to know about the water source you have to ask about the noise the
01:16:57.180 generators on-site generation the taxes that they're going to pay the jobs how many jobs uh
01:17:04.520 the grid cost the contract term the transmission the setbacks the baseline the disclosure the
01:17:10.600 expansion all of those things are what you need to know and i have all of the questions that you
01:17:15.860 need to ask so this leaves you if you're a hard no the strongest ground you have is the noise and
01:17:22.440 the diesel emissions and the subsidy per job eminent domain you know for transmission lines
01:17:27.900 and the secrecy of the approval process okay these are already documented and they win okay 1.00
01:17:34.760 drop the radiation argument and all of that stuff because it's i mean that's just stupid 1.00
01:17:39.820 You don't need it. If you're unsure the technology isn't viable for you and you're unsure that it should be there, what you need to find out is the variables. 0.93
01:17:55.380 Two facilities, identical size, can produce opposite outcomes for a community depending on the cooling, the design, the abatement systems, the setbacks, the noise limits, the wires, everything, everything.
01:18:05.780 So that's why you need to be informed.
01:18:10.060 And if your family's experience is bad, it most likely is not the development agreement that's coming from the corporations.
01:18:25.080 It's because your politicians did a really bad job on the development agreement.
01:18:31.120 They missed everything.
01:18:32.560 you need to insist that everything is in writing because there are some bad things that have
01:18:39.700 happened already and it's because of i think bad politicians they they are they're giving the store
01:18:46.220 away and this is your right you either do it or don't do it and i think there's good reasons not
01:18:52.260 to do it and there's good reasons to do it but if we're going to do it can we make sure that it's
01:18:57.200 not because it's Chinese propaganda?
01:18:59.860 Can we do these things on real reasons in your community?
01:19:03.360 Because most of this that you're seeing online,
01:19:05.740 a lot of it is coming from China.
01:19:07.900 It's propaganda made to look like it's coming from here. 0.91
01:19:11.360 And look, if you still decide, no, I don't want it, that's fine.
01:19:14.640 Just make sure you're not being convinced 0.95
01:19:17.320 because of Chinese propaganda.
01:19:19.780 Do your own homework.
01:19:22.040 Because this is a really important thing we have to decide.
01:19:25.400 and you know how america decides is how our future is going to be and whatever america decides is
01:19:30.760 what america decides and it's everybody's right to decide one way or another now speaking of that
01:19:36.680 we may not get a jury um decision at all and not because they are um they're hung but because
01:19:46.380 apparently yesterday we just found out about 20 minutes ago somebody was standing outside while
01:19:52.420 the jury was coming out and they had, I don't know, some videos or something about one of the
01:19:58.180 jurors. And apparently it appears as though this was a threat to one of the jurors and it's coming
01:20:05.580 from one of Clancy's fans. So a supporter of hers apparently was trying to affect the jury pool
01:20:19.720 with threats now that person is pleading not guilty uh and she said that's not what it is i'm
01:20:26.460 just a i'm just a true crime junkie maybe what does the post say about this because the post
01:20:33.100 seem to have the clearest reporting on this uh jason give us a little bit glenn to pull that up
01:20:40.400 because i want to read directly from it but um we're getting it here in just a little bit okay
01:20:44.320 because this is just a breaking news story now apparently this happened yesterday but now it's
01:20:49.700 just being reported and what will happen is if that is true the judge could come out and say
01:20:57.960 you know sorry the jury's been tainted somebody felt threatened one way or another
01:21:03.760 and it could be a mistrial it would be very very bad very bad so it's par for the course
01:21:12.940 in America. Do you have the story yet? Jason? Apparently not. Okay. We'll give you the story
01:21:23.580 here in, uh, in just a little while. Um, it'll probably be in about a half an hour or so. Cause
01:21:27.960 I've, I've got somebody coming up who is one of my favorite guests. I just, I absolutely love this
01:21:33.260 guy, John Ronson. If you don't know who John Ronson is, he's a journalist and, uh, he writes
01:21:40.820 about weird about weird stuff i mean he wrote about conspiracy theories um long time ago and
01:21:48.060 what's true what's not and he goes and he investigates himself and he always i think
01:21:55.020 is shocked by what he finds this one he's just written a book called the castle and his his job
01:22:02.560 is to go out and go what's wrong with men men are changing and it's not a good thing it's not
01:22:08.860 healthy for society what are the men in our society okay wait until you hear the journey
01:22:15.120 he went on uh it's a wild story uh the name of the book is the castle john ronson is going to
01:22:23.200 be with us here in just a second adventures in a world of unraveling men it was released yesterday
01:22:28.440 uh and i've read that probably the first two or three chapters and i just i had a hard time
01:22:34.120 putting the book down. It's really, really good. Uh, so that's, uh, coming up and then we'll also
01:22:38.960 get into, um, Jason, do you have that headline? Yeah. So this is, this is from, uh, from, from
01:22:46.300 the New York post and, uh, they're, uh, pulling from an interview or comments that she made,
01:22:52.680 uh, from CT insider. Uh, and she said, so they're saying that, uh, she is a crime junkie,
01:23:00.760 quote-unquote, Anne Clancy supporter,
01:23:03.840 she revealed in an interview with CT Insider.
01:23:07.380 The New York Post had a few more details about...
01:23:10.520 They said when cops approached the light, 0.89
01:23:12.660 she was adamant she was filming jurors,
01:23:14.420 but rather waiting to see if Lindsay Clancy 0.99
01:23:16.220 would come out of the building. 0.92
01:23:17.820 But when cops looked inside her phone,
01:23:19.460 they found a video of jurors walking out
01:23:21.300 in her deleted folder.
01:23:24.040 Hmm.
01:23:25.340 Well, maybe she took them and then deleted them
01:23:27.560 because she didn't want to keep them.
01:23:29.180 I mean, this is going to be hard.
01:23:30.760 It's going to be a hard one.
01:23:31.860 Well, I mean, what is true anymore?
01:23:33.440 Gosh, what is true anymore?
01:23:35.420 More in just a second.
01:23:36.820 John Ronson joins me next.
01:23:37.940 Glambeck is on
01:24:07.940 We'll be right back.
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01:24:51.920 John Robson is one of my favorite authors.
01:24:54.140 He has written multiple international bestselling books.
01:24:58.020 He's a journalist.
01:24:58.660 He's a filmmaker.
01:25:00.700 His titles are So You've Been Publicly Shamed, an amazing book.
01:25:04.840 the psychopath test and them adventures with extremists two of his books men who stare at
01:25:10.640 goats and frank have been adapted into feature-length films his ted talks of 30 million views
01:25:15.940 plus he is also the host and producer of multiple radio programs chart-topping podcast he's a
01:25:21.920 regular contributor to this american life and he lives in new york and he's joining us here in a
01:25:25.740 second because he just come out with a book they just started reading a couple of days ago and i'm
01:25:29.980 I've got to tell you, I'm bummed I'm as busy as I am because I've got to get some sleep, man.
01:25:38.580 And I started reading it, and it is so crazy.
01:25:43.540 And it's about men, the unraveling of men.
01:25:48.500 And it is, I don't know what the hell is happening.
01:25:51.280 And that's what he went out to try to find out.
01:25:53.500 What is happening with men, and can this unraveling be reversed?
01:25:57.260 first and he starts uh he starts with the the name of the book the castle he starts into this
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01:27:24.960 promo code beck john always good to talk to you this is a crazy book it is right it's a delight 0.87
01:27:34.240 to be here thank you for that fulsome introduction and yes this is a crazy ass story hey you you
01:27:41.800 start in because this is your son 0.72
01:27:44.100 this is your only
01:27:45.140 son right? Yes. And your
01:27:48.000 son calls you and says hey
01:27:49.880 I think if I'm not mistaken
01:27:51.380 he texts you
01:27:53.020 a location and a picture
01:27:55.860 of him in this location because he's like
01:27:57.780 just in case you need to find a body
01:28:00.060 later I'm a little concerned
01:28:02.160 of where we've ended up
01:28:03.540 and so he tells you the story and you
01:28:06.080 go and investigate and it's
01:28:07.620 tell the story this is the opening
01:28:09.820 chapter tell the story
01:28:11.300 Sure. OK, so this is a story that crashed unannounced into my life.
01:28:15.720 I'm asleep and I wake up and it's a series of texts of my son.
01:28:20.340 So I read the last text first and I guess I can't swear.
01:28:23.080 So I will paraphrase the last text. He was swearing in fear.
01:28:28.360 He texted something like, it's OK. That was very frightening.
01:28:32.700 But we left and we're OK now.
01:28:35.760 So then I frantically read all the other texts.
01:28:39.460 And it turns out that him and three friends have been invited to a party being held by a stranger that one of them had met earlier that week on Tinder.
01:28:49.560 So they drive to the stranger's house. It's in the forest of Connecticut.
01:28:54.040 And they pull up. And this guy's house is a massive newly built castle with towers and turrets, way too many turrets.
01:29:04.380 This would be ostentatious even by Count Dracula standard.
01:29:09.460 I looked it up, man.
01:29:12.120 I saw the, it's crazy.
01:29:14.100 It is nuts.
01:29:15.680 Yeah.
01:29:15.920 Yeah.
01:29:16.620 Think, you know, think ostentatious Gothic castle, but then like times that by 10.
01:29:22.700 And it's in a normal neighborhood, if I'm not mistaken.
01:29:25.660 You're driving down the road and it's generally normal.
01:29:28.140 And then this appears.
01:29:30.260 It's like ranch home, ranch home, unbelievable castle, ranch home.
01:29:36.560 and they can't figure out why they can't sell the place but anyway
01:29:40.660 go ahead so they cross the drawbridge and enter the grand banqueting hall to discover that there's
01:29:48.800 no party there's just a small number of equally bewildered looking young people standing awkwardly
01:29:55.220 around so the castle owner comes out and they say to him i'm sorry but where's the party and he said
01:30:01.660 no, no, I've invited you here for another reason. I want you all to take part in my reality show.
01:30:09.280 So they said, what's the name of your reality show? He said, it's called 101 Princesses.
01:30:14.640 So they said, what's the core concept? He said, I'm the king. I'm looking for my queen. I've got
01:30:19.940 101 princesses to choose from. And then he said, go downstairs to my basement costume room, 0.70
01:30:26.540 put on some princess costumes. He said this to the women in my son's party,
01:30:30.340 and then come back upstairs so they went downstairs okay stop stop stop stop did you 0.80
01:30:37.280 have a at this point i'm looking at my son and saying what the hell is wrong with you and your 0.51
01:30:42.900 friends that's when you turn around and you leave what's happening definitely poor choice and i was
01:30:50.440 i was asleep and oblivious while all of this happened i was unable to help right right right
01:30:57.480 So yeah, so I guess poor choice number one was not turning around when they got to the great iron gates.
01:31:04.980 Right.
01:31:05.700 Poor choice number two was going down to the basement and dressing up as princesses.
01:31:10.920 I've got to say, though, if they had turned around, I wouldn't have a book to write about.
01:31:14.720 So in a way, it's recklessness.
01:31:18.420 And in fact, that becomes part of the story.
01:31:22.000 Hopefully I'll get on to that in a second.
01:31:23.420 So they go downstairs. 0.78
01:31:25.800 The women put on princess outfits.
01:31:27.480 they go back upstairs a videographer appears filming begins but they become it becomes pretty
01:31:34.860 clear pretty quickly that this isn't a real reality show partly yeah partly because the
01:31:41.340 videographer was also had this other duty which was cutting up meat for the castle owner had this
01:31:46.900 huge slab of meat which is giving it pieces to the castle owner none of the meat was offered to
01:31:52.620 the princesses uh so they were kicked out after they refused to participate in 101 princesses
01:31:59.840 but it's not a good idea to invite a journalist's son in fairness my son was the plus one but still
01:32:06.060 it's not it's not a great idea to invite a journalist's son to your forbidden castle of
01:32:11.020 mysteries right by the way he's leaving an awful lot of color out but this is again just the first
01:32:17.640 chapter he in the same chapter he now goes and it's like hey dude what's the deal and this is
01:32:25.800 when it really again first chapter when it really gets weird yes so i go to the castle um by the way
01:32:35.580 i'm just out of hospital i think part of the reason why i went to the castle was because i
01:32:39.340 just had major surgery and i thought you know what you know i felt like life was passing me by
01:32:44.880 Like, oh, you know, you know, I only have purpose in my life when I when I tell stories.
01:32:49.760 So I felt desperate to go to this castle and, you know, fill my life with storytelling because that's better than major surgery, which meant that I was like, every time I moved in the wrong way, it would tear at my surgery scar.
01:33:01.480 And I'd like let out a shriek down his castle corridors like Quasimodo at Notre Dame.
01:33:07.100 So I'm like walking around the castle, moving in the wrong way, kind of going, ah, and asking him to explain what was going on.
01:33:15.880 So he says a couple of unwise things about how he brings women to the castle and adapts them to his lifestyle and so on.
01:33:25.320 Then he clearly regrets saying unwise things to a journalist because he gets out a piece of paper for me to sign and it's an NDA.
01:33:34.660 So I say no.
01:33:37.020 And so he puts the NDA back.
01:33:39.380 And I notice he has a whole pile of NDAs in his kitchen.
01:33:43.140 So who else was he getting to sign them and why?
01:33:46.960 So then I leave and he starts sending me very ominous messages.
01:33:52.000 He says he's going to sue me.
01:33:53.520 He has a team of investigators investigating everything about my life.
01:33:58.520 He says he has two murderers on his payroll called Carlos and Brandon, and they're just out of prison for killing someone.
01:34:07.820 Even he's afraid of Carlos and Brandon.
01:34:10.840 And if I ever write anything negative about the castle, Carlos and Brandon will be very unhappy.
01:34:16.680 So this is chapter one.
01:34:17.840 And then you forgot one part in the chapter.
01:34:21.580 You are called by, I guess, a friend of his who's not really a friend of his, who's trying to solve things, who's this older guy who's like, I just want to protect him, and you don't really know.
01:34:33.600 I mean, John, you've been to the Bohemian Grove, okay?
01:34:39.220 You were like, this is all nonsense, and you go and you're watching it, and you had to think to yourself, this is crazy when you're watching it.
01:34:45.660 you've done so many crazy things what was going through your mind with this thing you i mean
01:34:53.980 this is one of the weirdest stories i've ever heard and again it's chapter one yeah no i was
01:35:00.840 kind of freaking out um because i've never had a death threat before uh he did he did temper down
01:35:07.540 the death threats after a while at one point he texted me to say if you take my murder friends
01:35:12.800 out for dinner i'll venmo you the money uh so he was softening his uh his threats at that point
01:35:19.380 um but i was just thinking about what the hell is going on and i started talking to to some of the
01:35:24.620 women had been to the castle and and i pieced together the story it seemed that this guy
01:35:30.060 um wanted to be hugh hefner at what is the worst moment in human history to be hugh hefner
01:35:38.160 You can't lord over your princesses in your castle.
01:35:43.240 It's never really been a good thing to be Hugh Hefner, but this is the absolute, you're right, the wrong time to try.
01:35:51.400 Yeah, because all the women just immediately spoke to me.
01:35:54.980 You know, he was constantly getting thwarted.
01:35:59.420 My son and his friends would take part in 101 Princesses. 0.93
01:36:03.600 I heard he would, like, chase women around the castle for sex
01:36:06.780 and would constantly be getting thwarted.
01:36:09.180 So I just thought this is kind of funny, actually.
01:36:11.000 Like, on one level, there's nothing immediately resonant about his story,
01:36:16.520 being a story about the difficulties of luring women to a harlot in your castle
01:36:21.100 in the post-MeToo age.
01:36:23.120 But then I thought, you know what?
01:36:25.160 There's some weird resonances that he's a man out of time.
01:36:29.200 He's a man who's finding out that he can't do the things that he used to do.
01:36:33.100 And I thought, you know what, there's a lot of men like that now, more sympathetic men, men who used to enjoy, you know, derive structure and meaning from factory work or office work.
01:36:43.820 And now all of those old structures are crumbling and instead they're being forced to become content creators because that's like the only option open to them.
01:36:52.220 So the book becomes about other stories about people like that while I continue to investigate life at the castle, which is very weird.
01:36:59.380 Very weird.
01:36:59.720 But you write about Greg Chisholm, who was a top lawn care influencer on YouTube, that even that world just fell apart and flew apart.
01:37:15.840 Yeah, because he was chasing the algorithms like so many people do.
01:37:19.780 He was the lawn care goat.
01:37:21.460 He was YouTube's first and greatest lawn care influencer.
01:37:25.480 he would turn up at lawn care conventions and it was like rihanna had turned up uh people were like
01:37:31.920 oh my god it's greg chisholm um but unfortunately he decided to chase the algorithms more and more
01:37:38.760 youtube were encouraging him to make more and more what they called wtf content so he started
01:37:45.660 bringing his young daughters into the videos and he was doing these skits with his young daughters
01:37:50.200 and it just got weirder and weirder and weirder.
01:37:53.100 All he was doing was following YouTube's incentive structure,
01:37:56.580 but it ended up, to cut a long story short,
01:37:59.500 with him and his two daughters doing skits
01:38:02.260 where they're all dressed as babies and eating pacifies.
01:38:06.680 This is the kind of story that if you come to it at the end
01:38:08.920 and you see a guy and his two daughters dressed as babies
01:38:11.800 with pacifies in their mouths, you're thinking, what the hell?
01:38:15.660 But what I love about this story is that I'm with him
01:38:18.040 every step of the way and every decision he makes
01:38:20.160 You can disagree with some of them, but they make perfect sense.
01:38:23.320 At the time.
01:38:24.900 At the time, yeah.
01:38:26.220 But in following YouTube's incentive structure, he ends up in this extreme place which ended up ruining his life.
01:38:34.980 So that's a look at the sort of false promise of these new structures that men are trying to fill their lives with.
01:38:41.940 So, I mean, we've gone from the Marlboro man to, you know, a guy with his daughters dressed as a baby with pacifiers in his mouth.
01:38:50.160 Speaking of the Marlboro Man, by the way, I interviewed a guy who specialises in playing doofuses in TV ads.
01:38:58.720 I'm sure you've noticed that when you turn on the TV these days, the ads are full of men who can't do anything right and have to be constantly bailed out by their exasperated wives.
01:39:09.020 And I interviewed an actor who specialises in playing doofuses on TV.
01:39:12.680 He's one of the only men in my book who's actually thriving.
01:39:14.860 he said he said to me that he had to do an advert for shoal the insoles people and he's walking
01:39:23.500 down the street and he puts on a very comfortable pair of insoles and then he starts galloping
01:39:27.840 like a horse down the street and he had to look doofussy for that so i said to him 50 years ago
01:39:34.280 you have the marlborough man being stoical and masculine on a horse and now you have to be the
01:39:40.280 horse and he was like yep so i want to i'm going to take a quick break and i want to come back
01:39:46.000 so what did you find is there any way to go back what are the things that we need to be aware of
01:39:52.000 as men um i mean i think the the story of the lawn care guy just don't follow the algorithm
01:39:58.140 never chase the algorithm it's it it always ends badly don't chase the algorithm um but i'd i'd
01:40:05.200 love to hear what you, because you, you, you started the investigation. If you're looking
01:40:09.880 for a Manosphere book, you know, or, you know, a book about, you know, incels or something,
01:40:13.880 this is not the book you focused on, or not the guy at the beginning, ordinary people that just
01:40:20.340 have found themselves lost. Yeah. Adrift in a world they don't understand anymore. So I want
01:40:27.860 to come back in a minute and get, you know, uh, uh, and, uh, some sort of perspective on this.
01:40:32.880 What did you learn through all of this?
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01:41:53.680 so did you find people who men who are channeling all of this i don't know emptiness or or whatever
01:42:08.100 and and they've they've they've come into a successful reinvention or go ahead well yeah
01:42:18.700 like i i interview men who are making money being anti-woke influencers and right now you know when
01:42:25.900 i vote so you've been publicly shamed 10 years ago the people with the power were on the on the left
01:42:30.880 and that's all changed since he long last took over x and the left fragmented into places like
01:42:36.160 blue sky and so i look at um the anti-woke influencer world and and the influencers would
01:42:43.020 freely admit to me that every time they do a nuanced interview uh they lose money every time
01:42:51.300 they get somebody with extreme content they make money so it becomes so a little bit like my lawn
01:42:57.140 care influencer having to dress up as a baby because that's what the algorithms told him to
01:43:01.680 uh the anti-woke world i think are becoming more and more vociferous culture warriors and i think
01:43:08.560 that is you know i some culture wars are good some culture wars are bad but basically what i see
01:43:14.660 are these guys just sort of prodding away at each other down here fighting and fighting and fighting
01:43:19.740 while the tech billionaires are getting richer and richer and richer and are living off all of that
01:43:24.460 and so i part of my book is a kind of screed against succumbing to culture wars because
01:43:30.460 that's not that's because i i don't like using words like enemy but the real enemy i think of
01:43:36.880 these billionaires who are prodding at our resentments and just making money out of us.
01:43:40.820 I think the algorithm, anybody who is pushing the algorithms and they know exactly what they're
01:43:45.280 doing, I think they're really bad people. So is there a way to reverse this? Is there a way?
01:43:51.780 What advice do you have for our culture? Well, this is the crisis of structure and purpose.
01:44:00.080 I went to the castle because I was just out of hospital and I was desperate for some purpose
01:44:04.360 in my life my castle owner was desperate for purpose in his life and that's why he was inviting
01:44:09.300 one of these women to his castle to take part in his skeevy fake reality show so this is a crisis
01:44:15.280 of purpose a lot of people are losing their purpose in life a lot of people are isolated
01:44:20.100 you know that the statistic is that there's more than seven million men in america who aren't only
01:44:25.360 unemployed they aren't even looking for jobs they've just bowed out so some people are responding
01:44:31.560 responding to these changes by folding in on themselves and isolating others are responding
01:44:37.400 by lashing out in increasingly disinhibited ways and i think you see that at the extreme end of the
01:44:42.860 anti-woke world and so on and i think the solution to isolation and a lack of purpose
01:44:49.220 is is to go out is to is to find structure in your life is to find purpose is to do good is
01:44:57.120 not to isolate and lose yourself down these algorithms
01:45:02.200 because that just leads to horror.
01:45:04.380 And we're also coming to it.
01:45:05.260 You know, 39% of Americans now identify as content creators.
01:45:09.880 This is such a huge...
01:45:11.060 Holy cow.
01:45:12.080 I know.
01:45:12.380 That is terrifying.
01:45:13.640 John, thank you.
01:45:15.040 John Ronson, the name of the book is The Castle.
01:45:18.060 John Ronson is the author.
01:45:20.040 And by the way, I know you're living in New York,
01:45:21.960 so I can say this.
01:45:23.500 It's not hospital.
01:45:24.560 I didn't go to hospital.
01:45:25.640 I went to the hospital.
01:45:26.760 Well, you're an American now.
01:45:28.260 Speak American.
01:45:29.500 You're an America.
01:45:30.680 John Rodson, the castle. 0.95
01:45:32.400 Get it.
01:45:33.340 All right.
01:45:33.920 Friend factor.
01:45:34.760 Dogs have absolutely no respect for time.
01:45:37.760 They don't care if you have a meeting in 10 minutes.
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01:47:12.800 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
01:47:16.660 I want to talk to you about something that happened, something that happened last night.
01:47:20.940 The House passed a resolution denouncing socialism, 200 to 20 to 192.
01:47:30.040 But the vote that mattered came hours earlier, and it was procedural.
01:47:36.420 And almost nobody outside of the building noticed.
01:47:39.900 Five Republicans, angry about how their own leadership handled a shutdown deal, voted against the rule.
01:47:47.200 The housekeeping measure that lets a bill reach the floor.
01:47:50.360 OK, the rule was going to fail. Then two Democrats voted for it. Jared Golden of Maine, Marie, I think it's Gluzenkamp, Perez of Washington. 210 to 208.
01:48:05.860 Now, the Democratic leader, he put out a joint statement along with his whip in the caucus chair calling this a significant breach of trust that necessitates serious responses and referred the two of them to the caucus rules committee. 0.90
01:48:26.500 A congressman from California told Axios he loves it that they have to draw a bright line and kick some ass or this will become the new norm. 0.95
01:48:35.160 So in other words, fall in line. Fall in line. 0.99
01:48:40.720 This is such a grotesque day in Washington.
01:48:44.120 Understand what this punishment is for.
01:48:46.020 This is not for the socialism vote. 0.96
01:48:48.660 Golden and Glusenkamp Perez, which was the weirdest damn hyphenated name I've ever heard,
01:48:54.160 both say they voted for the rule because it carried a bill that Golden wrote to protect Maine lobstermen. 0.80
01:49:02.040 She has fishermen in her district.
01:49:04.460 And Golden is retiring in a seat that he was never supposed to hold.
01:49:08.140 He said it would be absurd for leadership to expect him to vote against his own bill.
01:49:13.580 But you know what?
01:49:14.240 It's happened before.
01:49:16.320 The party has an argument.
01:49:18.000 Rules, votes are team votes.
01:49:19.980 And both parties enforce that.
01:49:22.080 Well, should they?
01:49:23.220 Honestly.
01:49:25.060 I'm so tired of this game.
01:49:26.580 So the resolution was a messaging exercise with a Republican voter ID bill stapled to it, which is what most Democrats say they were voting against, a non-binding resolution that doesn't change one law in the country.
01:49:42.880 They, I suspect, they didn't want to be on the record to have to vote against socialism.
01:49:48.260 So all of that is true, however, and 192 members of Congress still could not find a way to say no to socialism.
01:49:58.140 That's pretty amazing.
01:50:00.300 Now, put that next to what everybody in Washington already assumes about November.
01:50:06.600 I assume it's not going to go well.
01:50:09.560 Democrats need three seats to take the House.
01:50:12.400 The generic ballot that's been running six or seven points their way has been running that way most of the summer.
01:50:18.760 But it's generic.
01:50:21.060 You know, when you actually have to look at people and when you say, you know, I want to change and I'd rather have a generic Democrat.
01:50:28.900 You could go, OK, I'd like this.
01:50:30.660 But when you put a name and a face to it, you're like, not that one.
01:50:33.740 I like the generic one.
01:50:35.500 And that happens on both sides.
01:50:37.500 The Senate is harder because, you know, the math is different, but it is on the table.
01:50:44.000 And the reason is not socialism.
01:50:48.320 Pew just asked voters in July what they would most want to hear about, and it was prices.
01:50:54.180 People ask which party they trust on the economy, and it's 37 to 36.
01:50:58.720 So it's a coin flip.
01:50:59.800 A coin flip is a catastrophe if you're in power.
01:51:03.280 people are tired and they want normal
01:51:08.180 I read that from Ben Shapiro and he's right
01:51:13.200 they want normal and I thought oh my gosh are we in trouble
01:51:17.560 let me tell you a story we've been here before 1920 this country was
01:51:21.880 wrung out in a way that you know makes us look coddled right now
01:51:25.420 a war than a flu that killed more you know than the war
01:51:29.240 strikes, bombs in the mail, riots, prices that were eating a paycheck alive, you know,
01:51:35.540 socialism and progressivism gone wild.
01:51:40.060 So a newspaper man from Ohio runs for president.
01:51:46.760 He sits on the front porch in Marion, and he let the country come to him.
01:51:55.420 And he gave him a word.
01:51:56.920 and he said look here's what americans are looking for they're not looking for heroics
01:52:02.780 right now they're looking for healing they're looking for normalcy now everybody made fun of
01:52:11.340 him at the time they're like you're making that word up there's no such word as normalcy and
01:52:15.460 there is i mean it's you know it's a math word honestly uh he said i look it up i looked it up
01:52:24.540 in my dictionary and it's there and it is normalcy is not a political word it's a math word it shows
01:52:31.540 up in a dictionary of mathematics in 18 the 1850s and um in geometry normal is a line standing at a
01:52:40.920 right angle normalcy meant the state of being square as in square latin root is uh means
01:52:50.980 Carpenter's Square, okay? So the most famous political promise of the 20th century came out
01:52:57.460 of a toolbox. Normalcy. It's a square, okay? He won 60%, biggest landslide anyone had ever seen,
01:53:06.640 okay? In that same November, nearly a million Americans, one voter in 30, cast a ballot for
01:53:14.280 a socialist, and that socialist was sitting in federal prison in Atlanta serving 10 years for
01:53:19.340 giving a speech he couldn't campaign um you know his campaign buttons had his convict number on
01:53:25.600 them printed on the campaign you know same country same election largest landslide in
01:53:30.740 american history for calm and a million votes go for a man in prison denim
01:53:36.080 here's what we need to take from this exhaustion is not moderation
01:53:48.100 And I think that's what we keep getting wrong. A tired country does not move to the center. It just moves away, and it moves away in any direction that's open. That's the problem.
01:54:06.220 that's 2020 you were sick of the noise you were sick of the politics the back and forth blah blah
01:54:14.680 blah so you voted in the quiet man in the basement you know i i'm tired of all of this stuff i just
01:54:21.800 want i want normalcy just want to go back to normal so you voted for the guy in the basement
01:54:27.240 you got mandates and closures in a school year that never came back a border you didn't recognize
01:54:32.880 then we were exhausted again 2024 same voters same exhaustion opposite door because it was the open
01:54:41.860 and i fear it's going to be the same thing in 2026 unless something changes because
01:54:48.800 they're not going for philosophy or ideology they're going for rest
01:54:57.740 you know when a man doing math in a grocery store when he's doing the math in the grocery store
01:55:05.080 he's not being that's not propaganda he's not being propagandized okay he's doing math and
01:55:12.300 his arithmetic is right and no microphone no propaganda beats arithmetic not mine not a cable
01:55:20.720 news networks not the president's nobody you can be entirely right about the direction of the
01:55:26.640 country and still lose to a receipt from the grocery store.
01:55:30.900 And I think that's what's happening.
01:55:38.400 What you can't argue with is the assumption that the vote only registers the
01:55:43.240 receipt.
01:55:43.800 It doesn't.
01:55:45.220 It doesn't.
01:55:46.940 It hands over the calendar.
01:55:48.820 It hands the gavels, the committees, the judges, and those who don't come
01:55:56.420 back for two years and sometimes 20 years because you're voting for normalcy just like you did with
01:56:05.700 Joe Biden and we all said that's not normal and then we voted for normalcy with Donald Trump
01:56:11.120 and it hasn't been normal I've liked it but it hasn't been normal now you're going to do the
01:56:16.720 same thing and you're going to vote for normalcy which have you looked at the candidates they're
01:56:21.660 Marxist that's not normal you're not voting normal back in normal isn't a mood
01:56:34.100 you're voting in a program the gender fights in your daughter's locker room the masks and
01:56:44.300 the closures and the men who told you six feet was science and then told you in meeting notes
01:56:49.160 that were classified.
01:56:50.520 No, that's not science at all.
01:56:51.900 DEI written into the hiring of the company
01:56:53.960 where your son just applied.
01:56:55.180 That's what you're getting.
01:56:55.960 That's not normal.
01:56:57.320 A foreign policy where important decisions get made
01:56:59.860 at a conference in Davos by people
01:57:01.860 who have never stood for an election
01:57:04.680 anywhere on the planet.
01:57:11.800 That's not a warning about the future.
01:57:14.920 It's a receipt from five years ago.
01:57:17.500 And it's still in the drawer.
01:57:19.160 Do you remember it?
01:57:21.280 Do you remember it?
01:57:28.300 And Republicans, you don't get a pass.
01:57:30.620 Five Republicans nearly killed your own anti-socialism vote on Tuesday
01:57:34.560 because you were angry about a shutdown of negotiation.
01:57:37.920 You can't tell the country that the stakes are civilizational
01:57:42.200 and then hold your own vote hostage over a scheduling grievance.
01:57:49.160 Everybody's listening, and they're listening to hear anyone who is saying what they actually believe.
01:57:58.720 And then I'm listening to see, are they doing it?
01:58:01.960 Are they still saying that behind closed doors?
01:58:04.440 And that vote said you don't.
01:58:13.320 Harding was the president.
01:58:14.640 He became president after saying they're voting for normalcy, and they did.
01:58:18.760 Normalcy came off a carpenter's square.
01:58:21.860 But a square is not a place.
01:58:24.320 You can't go back to a place.
01:58:26.660 And any man who promises you, you know, that he's going to take you back to that place is selling you something.
01:58:34.220 And he's selling you something he doesn't have.
01:58:36.480 Nobody does.
01:58:37.840 Harding was dead in two years.
01:58:42.280 His administration became synonymous for corruption.
01:58:47.840 A square is a tool.
01:58:50.320 You hold the work up against the square and you find out is that level and is that true.
01:58:58.280 We have one.
01:59:00.240 It's a few pages long.
01:59:02.720 And it starts with all men are created equal and endowed by their creator.
01:59:07.280 The other square we have starts with we the people.
01:59:16.080 That's our square.
01:59:17.620 Nobody's holding it up to see if it's normal, if there's normalcy there.
01:59:24.020 Is it square? Is it true?
01:59:26.460 Nobody's doing that.
01:59:29.300 Every one of these fights, the resolution, the punishment, the vote in November,
01:59:34.440 is a piece of work someone is holding up to the light and telling you,
01:59:39.700 it looks straight to me. It looks straight.
01:59:41.460 i know it because i feel it every day god i'd love to go back to normal i don't even know what
01:59:50.200 that is anymore we're never going back there we can't we can't and the reason we can't is because
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02:01:57.260 There's a couple of things we need to talk about.
02:02:01.480 I mean, it's quite interesting.
02:02:06.320 I mean, should we start with what's happening in Canada?
02:02:10.740 We have been asked to lay off the memes as Americans.
02:02:15.980 And I know whenever you ask somebody, you know, a whole society that just loves to do memes,
02:02:23.100 that mainly that's like 40% of everybody's life is just either creating or looking at memes.
02:02:30.740 Yeah, I know that's exactly what we're going to do.
02:02:34.420 So Carney gets up in front of the Canadians yesterday and he says this.
02:02:40.740 And when the Americans stop doing memes, stop throwing shade, stop trying to be tough, and start being serious about having those discussions, we can have those discussions.
02:02:53.340 But it's not constructive.
02:02:55.720 As Jason pointed out a minute ago, that's not the actual.
02:02:59.540 Can you get the actual video, please?
02:03:02.920 The actual video is not that one.
02:03:05.380 Isn't that the altered video?
02:03:06.920 Do we have that one, Matt?
02:03:10.740 and start being serious about having those discussions,
02:03:13.700 we can have those discussions.
02:03:15.320 But it's not constructive.
02:03:18.420 You've got Donald Trump standing behind him with a pipe doing,
02:03:23.840 you know, my heart will go on.
02:03:25.300 I mean, and the memes were relentless yesterday.
02:03:30.260 Relentless.
02:03:31.060 And I don't think relentless enough. 1.00
02:03:34.100 Show the one with the mangina.
02:03:35.580 it shows it shows carney a cartoon carney in the jury box and it says show me where these memes 0.99
02:03:42.580 hurt and he says he's pointing to this doll and he's like right here in my vagina 0.97
02:03:47.580 oh golly uh it's childish stop with the memes and you know when i say when i say carney 0.99
02:04:00.180 I don't, no see
02:04:02.160 that's what I don't want, there's no 1.00
02:04:04.180 reason to play the Chinese gong every time I 1.00
02:04:06.240 say Prime Minister
02:04:07.620 I didn't even have to say it that time
02:04:10.060 psychic, Sarah is
02:04:12.300 a psychic, alright we'll see you tomorrow
02:04:13.780 stay safe and may God save the Republic