The Glenn Beck Program - 'Justice Must Be Blind'？ with Jonathan Haidt- 9⧸17⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.620 Oh, the games that the Democrats play.

00:00:12.080 Welcome to the Me Too era of the Supreme Court justice confirmation.

00:00:17.820 Last Thursday, Senator Dianne Feinstein disclosed the existence of a secret letter written by

00:00:23.840 an anonymous woman alleging that the Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, sexually assaulted

00:00:29.220 her when they were in high school, back in the 1980s.

00:00:34.400 Now, yesterday, there was a major twist in this story that everyone who follows leftist

00:00:39.680 strategy should have seen coming.

00:00:41.640 The anonymous woman has revealed herself.

00:00:45.840 She is Christine Ford, a 51-year-old research psychologist at Palo Alto University in Northern

00:00:53.600 California.

00:00:55.280 She works at a university.

00:00:57.160 She's also a registered Democrat and has donated to political organizations.

00:01:03.920 But she pinky swears.

00:01:05.620 She swears this has nothing to do with her coming forward with this story, just as the Senate

00:01:11.960 Judiciary Committee votes on Kavanaugh.

00:01:14.720 Now, there were plenty of time for her to come out.

00:01:18.140 There was plenty of time for the Democrats to spill the beans.

00:01:22.480 They decided, no, no, no, it has to be the week of the vote.

00:01:28.940 Christine Ford, she spilled the exclusive beans to the Washington Post because they believe

00:01:34.960 that democracy dies in darkness.

00:01:39.040 And of course, if there's anything that Kavanaugh hopes to accomplish on the Supreme Court,

00:01:43.260 it is murdering democracy, I believe.

00:01:46.900 I am so, I want Donald Trump.

00:01:49.640 I mean, there's so much, this, this is the time for him to have the twitchy eye and just

00:01:54.720 go unstable.

00:01:55.820 This is the time.

00:01:56.900 Right now, I just want him to go, you know what?

00:01:59.580 You didn't like that one, huh?

00:02:01.040 Here's Judge Napolitano.

00:02:02.800 How do you like that one?

00:02:05.620 Ford told the Post that during a high school party, a drunk Brett Kavanaugh pinned her to

00:02:11.540 a bed, groped her, and covered her mouth to keep her from screaming.

00:02:16.340 She says, quote, I thought he might inadvertently kill me.

00:02:21.860 He was trying to attack me and remove my clothing, end quote.

00:02:25.820 Now, we have to take things like this seriously.

00:02:29.020 But at the last minute, you've had this for months.

00:02:35.780 She's had it, obviously, her whole life.

00:02:37.720 But they've had this for months.

00:02:40.340 The Democrats hold on to it and do nothing until the week, until Kavanaugh can no longer

00:02:48.960 be asked any questions about it.

00:02:52.220 There is no indication that she reported such a harrowing attack to the police or her parents

00:02:57.480 or anybody else at the time.

00:02:59.640 Kavanaugh unequivocally denies the accusations.

00:03:03.840 The White House released a letter signed by 65 women who say they went to the high school

00:03:11.040 with Kavanaugh.

00:03:11.960 They vouch for his character.

00:03:14.120 But that's not going to matter.

00:03:15.880 The Democrats will get their circus this week.

00:03:18.860 Kamala Harris and Corey Spartacus Booker will get their chance to remind everybody to vote

00:03:23.900 for them for president in 2020 because only the Democrats like women.

00:03:29.720 Christine Ford might be telling the absolute truth about this incident with Kavanaugh.

00:03:35.820 And it is sad if she is telling the truth that no one will believe her.

00:03:41.880 But why will half the country reject this?

00:03:46.360 Because she might also be making this whole thing up for politics sake.

00:03:52.900 And the fact that the politicians had this, that she filed it with the politicians and not

00:04:01.740 the police, and that they held on to it until after the hearings.

00:04:08.180 Kavanaugh was confirmed to the federal bench by the Senate in 2006.

00:04:23.040 Where was her dramatic story then?

00:04:27.140 Now, last year, this worked to derail Roy Moore's Senate campaign.

00:04:31.720 And that was a little dicey.

00:04:33.440 But I think we all looked at him and went, yeah, there's a little something something going on there.

00:04:41.060 Kavanaugh?

00:04:43.360 This just perfectly serves the left's narrative that Kavanaugh is planning on destroying all of

00:04:50.080 the rights of women.

00:04:51.280 Truth doesn't stand a chance when it's up against this kind of hysteria and a media that plays

00:05:02.600 into its hands.

00:05:15.300 Welcome to the program.

00:05:17.300 It is Monday.

00:05:18.820 What is it?

00:05:19.280 The 17th of September?

00:05:20.620 Yes, the day before your big book comes out.

00:05:22.540 Okay, all right.

00:05:22.880 The pressure's on, so don't screw it up.

00:05:25.280 This is the first book I've written, I think, since Common Sense, that I am nervous about it coming out.

00:05:30.940 Yeah?

00:05:31.360 Yeah.

00:05:31.800 I am really nervous.

00:05:33.580 Because it is full of nuance.

00:05:36.360 Full of nuance.

00:05:37.680 And full of things that I've never, I mean, we'll talk about it maybe tomorrow.

00:05:42.780 You know, once it's actually out.

00:05:44.460 You know, the sun could crash into the earth or the earth could crash into the sun at any

00:05:49.680 time.

00:05:50.100 And so there's some things in here that there's a couple of chapters that I'm actually very

00:05:54.700 nervous about because they are.

00:05:56.680 You have some inside stories that I don't know that I don't know that people are necessarily

00:06:02.200 expecting.

00:06:03.280 Or the people who are in these inside stories are going to be excited about.

00:06:07.880 So perhaps that might be accurate.

00:06:10.540 There's one place that everybody begged me, don't put this in, don't put this in, don't

00:06:15.520 put this in.

00:06:16.180 Is this the accusation that you were harassed by Brett Kavanaugh?

00:06:19.740 Thank you for saying that.

00:06:21.580 It's a big one.

00:06:22.320 Thank you for saying that.

00:06:23.780 I was going to wait until tomorrow, but he pinned me to a bed of nails.

00:06:29.140 Oh my gosh.

00:06:29.780 Yeah.

00:06:30.180 Wow.

00:06:30.680 Yeah.

00:06:30.920 He had some weird torture chamber thing as a kid.

00:06:34.560 He was seven at the time.

00:06:37.280 Yep.

00:06:37.380 Uh, but he had this torture thing.

00:06:40.200 And usually he said to me, uh, at the end, cause I said, stop it, Brett.

00:06:46.140 And this was before my voice changed or anything else.

00:06:48.540 And he said, it's women like you.

00:06:50.860 And I said, no, I am a seven year old boy.

00:06:54.440 And, uh, he was, I think he was me.

00:06:56.980 He might've been five.

00:06:58.360 Wow.

00:06:58.760 He might've been five.

00:06:59.960 Wow.

00:07:00.360 Uh, could have been seven, but I think he was five.

00:07:02.240 And he said, oh, you're not a girl.

00:07:04.180 And I said, no, I get that.

00:07:05.760 Uh, people mistake that all the time.

00:07:08.240 The large breasts, large breasts, everything else.

00:07:10.700 Usually the reason.

00:07:11.260 And, uh, and so, and I didn't say anything until now.

00:07:14.300 Wow.

00:07:14.720 Well, that's powerful.

00:07:15.780 It could be because of the vote.

00:07:17.740 It could be because of the book.

00:07:19.100 I don't know.

00:07:19.780 It's one of the two.

00:07:20.500 It's one of the, well, no, it could be that it absolutely happened.

00:07:24.300 It's a really interesting one because we all agree, right?

00:07:28.120 If, if something terrible has happened to you and you have a right to be taken seriously.

00:07:32.420 Yes.

00:07:32.780 Uh, as we've said over and over again, it's just, this one is, is tough.

00:07:37.220 I mean, the first, I mean, the first thing is you don't give it to a, a politician, right?

00:07:42.320 You don't give your story to a politician.

00:07:44.080 You want to be taken seriously.

00:07:46.240 You call the FBI.

00:07:48.060 If somebody is, especially in this circumstance, if you have something, you give it to the FBI and you say, look, I don't think this guy should be the judge.

00:07:58.240 He, here's what he did.

00:07:59.860 Now, may I just, may I, may I peel the onion?

00:08:03.740 You can peel another layer off of this layer of the, let's go in one more level.

00:08:08.160 Okay.

00:08:09.220 Uh, and, uh, let me ask you this.

00:08:13.000 Because if, if he, if he tried to rape her, okay, I, I think we should know about that.

00:08:20.180 Yes.

00:08:20.700 But if you tried to rape someone, um, you know, you, you need to have more than just you saying it.

00:08:29.740 If it's anything but rape, because remember this story started with he and his friends locked this girl in a room and then ran away laughing.

00:08:38.580 Okay.

00:08:39.060 That's how that first came out last week.

00:08:41.160 Remember?

00:08:42.140 Um, can we stop with the high school stuff?

00:08:47.020 Yeah.

00:08:47.500 I mean, unless it's a crime.

00:08:49.440 Uh, now this one, she is now alleging a crime.

00:08:52.200 Wait a minute.

00:08:52.840 A juvenile crime?

00:08:54.600 Well, I mean.

00:08:55.300 You want that open?

00:08:57.160 Uh, you know, there's a level of it, right?

00:08:59.500 Uh, smoking pot in high school probably does not, uh, remove you from the Supreme Court, right?

00:09:04.460 Smoking pot.

00:09:05.300 Right.

00:09:05.460 In the Senate probably doesn't stop you at this point, uh, you know, at this point for

00:09:11.260 sure.

00:09:11.600 Right.

00:09:11.860 Um, there's some level, right?

00:09:13.380 Uh, you know, I certainly, you know, DUI can be very dangerous.

00:09:17.080 I don't hear any liberals saying that Beto shouldn't be elected for it.

00:09:20.600 Um.

00:09:20.880 Wait a minute.

00:09:21.320 What?

00:09:21.820 Because he had a DUI in his past.

00:09:23.560 No, I'm sorry.

00:09:24.160 I didn't hear that.

00:09:24.720 Well, yeah, he's making, he almost, he could have killed people.

00:09:26.800 When did that happen?

00:09:27.560 Could have killed people.

00:09:28.120 Could have, let's say, let's say, inadvertently killed people.

00:09:31.220 Let's put it that way.

00:09:31.920 I was terrified when I got onto the highway and I found out that Beto was driving.

00:09:36.660 Right.

00:09:36.860 I was terrified that he might, he might inadvertently kill me.

00:09:40.700 Yeah.

00:09:41.200 So, I mean, I don't know.

00:09:42.320 Like, look, a serious sexual crime is something that I would want to know about.

00:09:45.900 Um, it's just that it's so hard to believe.

00:09:49.600 And what's interesting here is you have so many layers of this.

00:09:54.440 You know, first of all, it's 30 years ago.

00:09:55.920 So, right off the bat, uh, you know, you're like, well.

00:09:58.480 Listen to Malcolm Gladwell, uh, a series.

00:10:01.840 Oh, yeah.

00:10:02.440 Uh, about memory.

00:10:03.620 It'll blow your mind.

00:10:05.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:05.480 The studies that have been done on memory.

00:10:08.000 It, it, honest people.

00:10:09.860 People who are really think that they are doing the right thing.

00:10:14.280 And telling the truth.

00:10:14.880 And telling the truth.

00:10:15.880 They will deny the things that they even wrote this.

00:10:19.200 They started this study in with 9-11 and they asked people right after what, where were you?

00:10:25.860 What happened?

00:10:26.940 Write it down.

00:10:28.140 They interviewed them.

00:10:29.120 Then they went back 10 years later and people were like, that didn't happen.

00:10:33.380 Now, 17 years later, they're saying things like, I don't know why I wrote that because that's not where I was.

00:10:40.380 And they've completely, honestly, completely re-imagined or re-engineered what they saw that day and where they were.

00:10:49.620 Essentially convinced themselves of a lie.

00:10:51.680 Right.

00:10:51.760 Which is bizarre.

00:10:52.540 And it's not unknowingly.

00:10:53.540 It's natural.

00:10:53.840 Yeah.

00:10:54.180 It's, it's all natural.

00:10:55.340 And I wasn't, I wasn't aware of this until relatively recently.

00:10:58.300 But, you know, the whole thing that happened, I would say the 80s and 90s, where there was a lot of cases of repressed memories being brought up.

00:11:05.920 Oh, yeah.

00:11:06.320 That was basically completely scientifically debunked.

00:11:09.800 Yes.

00:11:10.060 Like the doctors no longer believe that that's, the vast majority of doctors no longer believe that repressed memories are a thing.

00:11:17.580 There's something that essentially you convince yourself in.

00:11:19.760 You create a fake memory.

00:11:21.080 It's not a repressed memory.

00:11:22.040 Oh, kind of like what conservatives said at the time.

00:11:24.120 Yeah.

00:11:24.600 I guess they probably did.

00:11:25.480 You're throwing, you're, you're throwing people under the bus.

00:11:28.120 They're committing suicide because of your fake made up memories that you might think, but only because a psychotherapist is working, is working that.

00:11:39.420 Yeah.

00:11:40.020 And it's, and this is what's so crazy about it because you have a 30 year old plus allegation of something that, depending on, I mean, the, the initial reports, right.

00:11:50.500 Were, were that it was not all that, uh, and it was anonymous and it was not all that, uh, well, it was locking someone in a room or something.

00:11:57.000 And that's, which seemed like a high school prank, right?

00:11:58.880 Right.

00:11:59.240 Um, now he denies this happened at all, but.

00:12:01.480 And so does the other guy.

00:12:02.360 And so does everybody that, everybody that he knew apparently.

00:12:06.060 Now it's been elevated to, you know, sexual assault, which is a serious claim.

00:12:09.500 Um, but it just, the fact that it comes out in the middle of a Supreme court, uh, uh, you know, uh, hearings, not even in the hearings, the letter doesn't, they don't release it.

00:12:19.940 They hold onto it.

00:12:20.620 They don't question him in front of America about it.

00:12:23.000 Right.

00:12:23.220 They wait until after because they're doing everything they can to delay.

00:12:25.700 And it's just so hard to see this as anything other than hail Mary.

00:12:28.540 If this would have happened two months ago, okay, if they would have released this letter two months ago, you would have some credibility.

00:12:37.160 It would be part of, it would have been part of the hearing or part of the prep for it.

00:12:40.080 You can ask, you can, you have time.

00:12:42.680 Now what, what are they doing?

00:12:44.500 They, the, the hearings are over.

00:12:47.080 And on the day that it's over, they announced they've been sitting on this letter for two months.

00:12:51.920 All this is, is a hail Mary pass.

00:12:54.840 That's all this is.

00:12:55.960 Right.

00:12:56.280 And it's a delay tactic.

00:12:57.340 Yes.

00:12:57.620 Because they think if they can get to the elections and take the Senate back, they have a chance of either, you know, holding off and not giving Trump any nominee or forcing him into taking some very watered down pick.

00:13:10.400 But it's interesting because you have a, a situation where Brett Kavanaugh, it has, we have taken every possible defense away from Brett Kavanaugh.

00:13:23.700 He can't, he's denied it, but that doesn't matter.

00:13:26.880 Right.

00:13:27.940 And then you have, uh, he, they released 65, um, women or girls at the time who said, I was in high school with him.

00:13:34.620 He didn't do anything like this.

00:13:35.520 He was not that type of person.

00:13:36.540 Right.

00:13:37.120 But then what does the left say?

00:13:38.540 Oh, well, here's a list of 65 people.

00:13:40.420 He didn't rape.

00:13:41.280 Wow.

00:13:41.780 He didn't rape 65 whole people.

00:13:43.540 What a, what a wonderful thing.

00:13:44.580 So you can't take other, you can't take character witnesses.

00:13:46.800 That doesn't count.

00:13:47.940 The only thing you could do is have someone who's there and saw it, but we have that.

00:13:51.400 And that didn't count either.

00:13:53.580 So there's no way this is absolutely the type of case that we talked about during the whole me too thing.

00:13:59.000 If you get it down to anyone, one person can say something happened 30 years ago with no contemporaneous records of it.

00:14:06.240 Right.

00:14:06.500 No, there's no, there's nothing that she didn't like go to the police or even, you know, tell lots of friends at the time.

00:14:12.340 None of that happened.

00:14:13.520 Uh, so we just have to believe one person.

00:14:16.160 And now we're at the point where all women must be believed the Hillary Clinton standard that everyone thought was insane.

00:14:22.340 And now it's the thing that's going to be applied to, to Brett Kavanaugh.

00:14:25.640 And I would argue, Glenn, I don't, I don't believe, I don't believe there's one liberal who believes this event actually occurred.

00:14:32.900 But it's so, the timing of it is so suspect.

00:14:37.880 If there was one liberal that believed in this, uh, at least in the Senate, they would have released it two months ago.

00:14:47.440 Of course.

00:14:48.400 There's no one that believes it.

00:14:50.320 They know this is shaky.

00:14:51.940 They had it in July.

00:14:52.660 It can't, it, you can't spend much time on this.

00:14:56.660 That's, that's the thinking.

00:14:58.080 This, this will be a shock, but once you start looking into it, it's going to fall apart.

00:15:03.420 So hold it as a last shock and awe to see if we can delay it, uh, anymore.

00:15:10.160 That, that's the only reason.

00:15:11.720 If you believed it, you would have played this card first.

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00:16:59.960 You know, any feminist, any true feminist would stand up and say, stop it.

00:17:07.600 Stop this, this use of victims for political reasons.

00:17:15.780 Stop it.

00:17:17.480 Because what's happening is if you just make, uh, if you just start saying, look, sexual harassment,

00:17:24.980 he was a sexual harassment.

00:17:26.400 He was sexually harassing people.

00:17:27.920 If it's all for politics, eventually it will mean nothing to either side because one side

00:17:36.480 will see it as a tactic, depending on who's using it.

00:17:39.400 And they'll say it's okay because that person is worse than using this tactic.

00:17:44.720 And the other side will dismiss it because they'll know it's a tactic.

00:17:48.360 And so what happens, the people who are actually being abused, who are actually going through

00:17:56.780 something, we're not going to listen to, we won't believe, and the people who are actual

00:18:03.460 abusers will go free.

00:18:05.280 Justice cannot become political.

00:18:11.120 Justice is blind.

00:18:14.280 But not anymore.

00:18:15.700 No.

00:18:16.300 And this is just, I mean, we don't know, but, you know, the end of it is from the Democrats

00:18:21.460 perspective, hold it till after the hearing.

00:18:23.220 Now they're going to have to have another hearing.

00:18:24.440 They're going to have to bring him back.

00:18:25.340 They're going to have to bring her back.

00:18:26.820 And, you know, look, if there's nothing to this, you still have the outlying possibility

00:18:31.640 that Brett Kavanaugh looks, let's say, really sweaty, right?

00:18:34.720 If he looks really sweaty, then America, well, he did it.

00:18:38.940 Maybe he stumbles over a sentence.

00:18:40.840 Maybe he phrases something poorly that they can run over and over again in election commercials.

00:18:44.800 And you know who's really shameful?

00:18:46.740 You know who's really, truly one of the bigger disappointments?

00:18:50.280 How much time do you have?

00:18:53.540 In the Senate.

00:18:54.820 Oh, wow.

00:18:55.280 Okay, how much time do you have?

00:18:57.320 Jeff Flake.

00:18:58.640 Oh, gosh, yeah.

00:18:59.360 Because he's already bailing.

00:19:00.500 He's already saying, I'm not going to, I can't vote yes on Kavanaugh until we hear

00:19:04.880 this out.

00:19:05.540 Which, again, I mean, in some circumstances you understand.

00:19:09.780 But it's like, unless you have a reason to believe these things, unless there's real

00:19:15.440 evidence of some sort, something we were not aware of.

00:19:18.120 Last week, I don't know what's being said this week, but last week the FBI said it was

00:19:22.280 given the evidence and it's not pursuing it.

00:19:24.520 That was last week.

00:19:27.680 So if you were given the evidence, did the Senate sit on this evidence or did they turn

00:19:33.540 it over two months ago to the FBI?

00:19:39.760 Hello?

00:19:40.720 Well, and you know, the issue is, of course, if this wasn't a Hail Mary pass, they would

00:19:46.540 have wanted to question him about it in the hearings.

00:19:49.440 Yes.

00:19:49.780 This is just, they're trying to delay and they think if they can get the Senate, they

00:19:54.480 can do something different.

00:19:55.340 And this is the problem with social justice.

00:19:57.880 It is not blind.

00:19:59.900 Justice must be blind.

00:20:07.860 Welcome to the, uh, welcome to the program.

00:20:11.200 Glad you're here.

00:20:12.200 It is, uh, Constitution Day.

00:20:14.640 Anybody, anybody really know what the Constitution even is anymore?

00:20:21.260 Anybody?

00:20:22.780 Anybody?

00:20:24.000 Bueller?

00:20:25.500 Bueller?

00:20:26.320 Does anybody care?

00:20:27.420 Yeah.

00:20:27.980 July 9th, 1776.

00:20:29.980 Copy of the Declaration of Independence.

00:20:32.520 Reach New York City.

00:20:34.660 There were naval ships out in the harbor.

00:20:37.500 The British.

00:20:39.240 Revolutionary spirit.

00:20:40.460 Tension running high.

00:20:41.660 George Washington was the commander of the Continental Forces.

00:20:45.560 He stood in front of City Hall in Manhattan, just off wall.

00:20:51.260 And he read the Declaration of Independence.

00:20:56.680 The crowd cheered.

00:20:59.240 They tore down the statue of King George III.

00:21:02.820 Now, think of that.

00:21:05.140 How you see now statues coming down of tyrants all around the world.

00:21:09.940 They take the statue of King George and they actually melt the statue and make 42,000 musket

00:21:18.720 balls, bullets, out of the statue of King George.

00:21:23.560 America's separation from Great Britain was officially now in writing.

00:21:28.440 So, I want to talk to you a little bit about, and this is a whole section in the book.

00:21:33.360 I come back to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution several times in the new book.

00:21:38.520 It's coming out tomorrow, Addicted to Outrage.

00:21:41.100 And I explain, I think, I actually, I like it very much, the Declaration of Independence as the greatest breakup letter of all time.

00:21:50.760 If you, if you make that a Dear George letter, I translate it from, you know, old-timey English into, you know, a contemporary breakup letter.

00:22:03.540 And it, you understand it.

00:22:05.940 It's the greatest breakup letter of all time.

00:22:08.620 But that's what it is.

00:22:11.600 It's a, it's a, a breakup letter that says we have to separate because you're an abusive boyfriend and we don't want any of that.

00:22:21.680 But what's more is it starts with, hey, George, you know, we got to break up because there's a lot of, there's a lot of things going on and things that you're doing.

00:22:33.280 And every time I try to bring things up, you only make it worse.

00:22:38.520 But I, I want to tell you who I am because you don't seem to get it.

00:22:44.720 This is who I am.

00:22:46.340 This is what I believe.

00:22:48.200 These are the things that we find self-evident.

00:22:51.660 That's the mission statement for the country.

00:22:54.720 The Declaration of Independence is so important because it's the mission statement.

00:23:00.180 It says we're going to break up because we are these people.

00:23:06.760 We believe in these things.

00:23:10.540 Forget about all of the things that the king did.

00:23:13.800 Just look at that part.

00:23:16.280 We hold these truths to be self-evident.

00:23:19.480 So basically this says we're going to break up and we're going to start our own country.

00:23:24.240 And it's going to be, it's going to revolve around this.

00:23:30.060 That all rights come from God, not from a king.

00:23:33.960 Nobody can change them.

00:23:36.200 Your individuals were not a collective under rule.

00:23:40.840 And you have a right to be, right to be heard and express yourself.

00:23:46.460 And nobody can scoop you up in the middle of the night.

00:23:48.640 And nobody can just level fake charges that I can't answer.

00:23:56.100 And we're going to develop a country that if it ever goes off the rails, the people can abolish it.

00:24:03.060 In fact, they have a right and responsibility to abolish that.

00:24:07.260 If it becomes a hindrance or opposed to any of these natural rights.

00:24:15.960 Because that's who we are.

00:24:17.340 That's what we believe.

00:24:18.980 That's the Declaration of Independence.

00:24:21.340 But then in 1789, they get together and they say, okay, that's the mission statement.

00:24:29.140 How do we do it?

00:24:32.100 How do we build this?

00:24:34.940 There's a whole section or a whole chapter where I kind of talk about the Constitution as if it was written by, you know,

00:24:43.780 a bunch of, you know, VW engineers that had to, you know, make the VW thing.

00:24:50.620 Remember that awful car?

00:24:52.880 Yeah.

00:24:53.340 And they were like, okay, we were making cool cars.

00:24:56.300 I mean, Porsche designed the first one.

00:24:59.160 Now we're building the thing?

00:25:01.120 No, I don't think so.

00:25:03.220 And so they break away.

00:25:04.400 They had to, if you want to do a new company and that company is never going to make the VW thing,

00:25:16.620 then you better state it in your mission statement.

00:25:19.880 And then you better build your company rules around the things that you saw lead to the VW thing.

00:25:28.980 And that's what the Constitution does.

00:25:31.760 The Constitution is, okay, how do we build this?

00:25:36.660 More importantly, how do we make sure that we don't start building a VW thing?

00:25:44.380 And in the government, that VW thing is tyranny, a tyrant, a king, a Hitler, a Stalin, a Mao.

00:25:54.640 How do we make sure that never happens?

00:25:56.760 Because that's why we broke away.

00:25:59.860 In our mission statement, it says men are individuals.

00:26:04.880 They are given certain rights.

00:26:07.960 No one can take those rights away.

00:26:10.140 They're life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness so they can be who they want to be.

00:26:16.260 Now, I'm not saying that's a mission statement.

00:26:18.740 I'm not saying that we haven't made mistakes.

00:26:20.440 I'm not saying that we haven't hit it every time.

00:26:22.560 Of course not.

00:26:23.880 Man's never going to be perfect.

00:26:25.840 Man will never be perfect.

00:26:27.920 Why do you expect a country to be perfect?

00:26:31.560 350 million people are going to get this right?

00:26:34.880 We can't get one person right.

00:26:37.480 How are we going to get 350 of us right?

00:26:43.180 Men are flawed.

00:26:45.340 Again, that's where the Constitution comes in.

00:26:48.740 Because men are flawed, you better check on them.

00:26:53.220 You better make sure that anybody who gets power is so compartmentalized and so many people are checking on them so it can never get out of control.

00:27:04.580 This system is so brilliant.

00:27:08.260 It has so many checks and balances.

00:27:11.640 But what Americans don't understand is we're at the last clause.

00:27:17.360 We are now at the last beachhead.

00:27:21.260 This thing was designed with checks and counterchecks and counterbalances to make sure nothing got out of control.

00:27:30.220 And at the very last minute, one of our founders said, yeah, but what happens if all of that fails?

00:27:36.320 Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle.

00:27:37.420 Oh, well, Americans will never let that happen.

00:27:40.640 They don't want tyranny.

00:27:42.000 There's so many checks and balances.

00:27:45.280 And somebody said, wait a minute.

00:27:47.360 But what if they do?

00:27:50.640 Because right now we have this thing written.

00:27:53.180 So all of the checks and balances are happening in the government.

00:27:58.480 They're happening at the federal level.

00:28:00.360 And the Senate is supposed to be a balance where this is the way it was originally written.

00:28:05.440 The Senate was not supposed to be elected by you.

00:28:08.660 You shouldn't care about Beto.

00:28:11.340 Only the people in Texas should care about Beto.

00:28:15.300 Not you.

00:28:16.820 I shouldn't care about Chuck Schumer.

00:28:20.900 Because Chuck Schumer should be making sure that the government doesn't do anything to stop New York from being New York.

00:28:30.040 You want to do all socialists up in New York?

00:28:32.760 Have at it, dude.

00:28:33.920 California, you want to drive the crazy train into the cliff?

00:28:38.540 Have at it.

00:28:40.600 But not Texas.

00:28:42.740 And that's what the Senate was supposed to do.

00:28:45.320 But the progressives took that away.

00:28:47.740 So you lose one check and balance.

00:28:51.280 And slowly but surely, people have either given away their check and balance power, or they have had it taken away.

00:28:59.280 And so we're down to the last one, where the crazy founder said, yeah, but what happens if all of that?

00:29:08.100 It'll never happen.

00:29:10.180 It has.

00:29:11.320 That's the Constitutional Convention.

00:29:15.640 That's where the people can say, you know what?

00:29:20.260 They're out of control.

00:29:21.740 And we need to go in and give them term limits.

00:29:25.280 Because they'll never do it themselves.

00:29:27.420 This is a brilliant document.

00:29:33.040 It has been slowly dismantled.

00:29:35.840 It's not perfect.

00:29:39.380 As Winston Churchill says, the greatest thing about a republic or democracy is that it's the worst system.

00:29:50.780 It's the worst system.

00:29:52.840 Absolutely the worst way to manage.

00:29:55.520 Except for all of the other ways.

00:29:59.960 Yes, it's flawed.

00:30:01.780 But this is the best way to do it.

00:30:04.460 But we haven't lived it in a long time.

00:30:06.960 Well, and remember, too, I mean, they, the brilliance of the founders was recognizing human fallibility.

00:30:13.880 Right.

00:30:14.240 Right.

00:30:14.440 They realized that they weren't going to get it perfect.

00:30:16.880 And that's why they created a process, which I think you can argue it is perfect because of this.

00:30:22.020 You can amend it.

00:30:23.020 But if you find something wrong, you can amend it.

00:30:26.680 And there's a process to go through to amend it.

00:30:28.920 They just want, they never want to go through that process in Washington.

00:30:31.340 They just want to implement it.

00:30:32.920 When they say that the founders never saw this happening, they know.

00:30:37.200 They knew that.

00:30:38.360 They knew that.

00:30:39.880 That's why they left the amendment process.

00:30:42.700 That's the only way this document is living and breathing.

00:30:46.720 You can open it up through the amendment process and say, you know what?

00:30:52.540 But that's not right.

00:30:53.680 The gun thing, that's not the way we feel now.

00:30:56.760 We've learned some things.

00:30:58.380 So you amend it.

00:31:00.000 You don't twist and take out of context the words to say, well, it's a living, breathing document.

00:31:07.940 No, it's not.

00:31:09.080 It's living and breathing.

00:31:10.500 When you open it up and say, we need to amend this because that's old timey.

00:31:15.820 They never saw it coming.

00:31:17.920 That's part of the genius.

00:31:21.100 That's part of the genius.

00:31:22.640 Well, it's too tough to do that.

00:31:24.300 Again, that's part of the genius.

00:31:26.680 Because it slows you down.

00:31:31.020 Do you know that the Patriot Act was written in the 1990s?

00:31:36.280 What?

00:31:37.680 The Patriot Act was written, for the most part, in the 1990s.

00:31:42.940 It went nowhere.

00:31:45.040 No one wanted the Patriot Act.

00:31:47.600 So it just sat on a shelf and waited until there was a disaster because people will vote for security when they're freaked out.

00:31:59.380 And so they did.

00:32:01.060 Can you imagine?

00:32:01.820 How did that Patriot Act?

00:32:02.920 We didn't even ask that question.

00:32:05.120 How have you designed this elaborate system with Homeland Security and everything else?

00:32:12.200 How did you put this together so quickly?

00:32:16.300 Easy.

00:32:16.980 We did it years ago.

00:32:18.600 Right.

00:32:18.840 It was ready to go.

00:32:19.900 I mean, another good example of this is Medicare for All.

00:32:23.220 Bernie Sanders introduced Medicare for All in 2013 and got exactly zero co-sponsors.

00:32:29.940 We've got, let's say, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.

00:32:39.620 When he released it in 2017, he had 16 co-sponsors.

00:32:43.100 Mind you, by the way, the Democrats had solved this problem, if you remember right, with Obamacare already.

00:32:48.840 And now they want Medicare for All.

00:32:50.480 In 2013, it wasn't popular.

00:32:52.760 It didn't make sense.

00:32:53.500 No one wanted to jump on that bandwagon.

00:32:55.160 Now it's all Democratic Socialism.

00:32:56.820 I mean, if you look through this name, you're going to see a lot of 2020 potential Democratic nominees.

00:33:02.480 Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris.

00:33:06.500 You know the names.

00:33:07.640 It's blatantly obvious that this stuff is going on.

00:33:10.540 That's the way it works.

00:33:12.120 That's progressivism.

00:33:14.600 The cure to progressivism is what progressivism deems the cancer.

00:33:22.160 However, the Constitution.

00:33:25.480 Today is Constitution.

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00:33:48.180 But we can't do it while we're angry.

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00:35:53.220 If you've never heard him, you need to.

00:35:55.920 That's The Coddling of the American Mind, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure.

00:36:02.540 He is a professor at NYU.

00:36:05.200 He was a big progressive liberal.

00:36:08.980 I think he still classifies himself as a liberal, but I don't think he classifies himself as a progressive anymore.

00:36:15.680 I don't think he necessarily calls himself a liberal now.

00:36:19.440 He was, though, at one point.

00:36:21.220 I think he's more of a classic liberal now, which is libertarian-ish.

00:36:26.060 But he's written a book on the three bad ideas that are destroying us, and it is a brilliant book with real answers to it,

00:36:37.700 especially if you're a parent.

00:36:39.600 Jonathan Haidt joins us next.

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00:37:10.080 It's Monday, September 17th.

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00:37:15.620 One of the most influential writers, I think, in the last five years, at least in my life, is Jonathan Haidt.

00:37:28.000 He has written a couple of bestsellers.

00:37:31.400 One of them is the unrighteous mind or the righteous mind, which is, I know that language makes a difference, especially there,

00:37:40.000 but the righteous mind, you know, why we can't get along with people.

00:37:43.040 And it is it's a game changer.

00:37:46.300 The one thing I have found in common with people who are spitting themselves out of the out of the system on both sides and are saying we're in trouble.

00:37:57.980 They all have read Jonathan Haidt's books.

00:38:00.680 This is an exceptional book and I believe a must read for everyone in this audience.

00:38:07.780 It's called The Coddling of the American Mind by Jonathan Haidt, and he joins us now.

00:38:12.680 Hello, Jonathan.

00:38:13.360 How are you, sir?

00:38:14.600 Very well, Glenn.

00:38:15.480 Pleasure to be back talking with you.

00:38:16.820 Yeah, so, Jonathan, you have in this book, and I wish I could, I wish you were here so you could see, it is all, it's all highlighted.

00:38:26.660 I've highlighted, I could talk to you for days about this.

00:38:30.000 It is fascinating.

00:38:31.840 You outline three main problems that are happening in our society now.

00:38:38.340 What are they?

00:38:39.100 So, the book is about this very strange change that happened on college campuses around 2015.

00:38:48.720 Many of your listeners will have heard of these strange events, the shouting down of speakers, the claiming that students need warnings before they read a Greek myth or a story that has violence or racism in it.

00:39:00.580 So, strange things began to happen, and my co-author, Greg Lukianoff, he had this brilliant diagnosis.

00:39:09.380 He himself was subject, he'd had suicidal depressions, he's prone to depression, and he learned cognitive therapy, which is where you learn to question your assumptions and clean up your thinking.

00:39:19.860 And once he did that, he began to notice that the students were doing the exact same cognitive distortions that he had learned not to do.

00:39:28.020 They were catastrophizing, oh, if a student, if a speaker comes to campus, you know, people will die.

00:39:34.360 This is disordered thinking, and Greg noticed that students were doing this.

00:39:38.120 He runs the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, and so he diagnosed that students, that colleges are somehow conveying these ideas that are really, really bad for students.

00:39:49.320 Students are taking them to heart and thinking themselves into a depression.

00:39:53.220 So, that's sort of the back story to the book.

00:39:56.760 The three ideas that you refer to, sorry, I had to do that little background.

00:40:00.200 No, no, that's fine, that's fine.

00:40:01.780 So, the three ideas, what we conclude in the book, as we've listened to students, as we've read a lot about what's going on, and I'm a professor at New York University, so I'm in the thick of things here,

00:40:11.800 is that there are three really, really bad ideas, and here they are.

00:40:15.320 What doesn't kill you makes you weaker.

00:40:19.500 Number two, always trust your feelings.

00:40:22.680 Number three, life is a battle between good people and evil people, and if we can get students to believe all three, we can't guarantee that they will fail,

00:40:33.140 but we really set them up for a life of weakness, complaint, grievance, and failure.

00:40:38.940 So, Jonathan, I have a book that is released tomorrow, and I rewrote it, and I wish I could rewrite it again, because I've learned so much as I'm writing.

00:40:53.940 I don't know if you've ever experienced that, but you're like, you get to the end, you're like...

00:40:57.140 What's your book? What's it called?

00:40:58.840 It's called Addicted to Outrage.

00:41:01.880 Oh my goodness, I've got to read that.

00:41:03.260 Yeah, so it is, it talks about, you know, our addiction to this, and how this is happening, but it also touches on post-modernism,

00:41:16.200 which is coming out of our universities, which is kind of the root, is it not, of all three of these problems?

00:41:23.820 Because you just said, if we can teach all, if we can get kids to believe all three of these things, we destroy them.

00:41:30.780 Why would anyone do that?

00:41:33.260 So, nobody's trying to destroy students.

00:41:36.800 I think what's happening here, the best idea I can share with you and your listeners to understand the craziness that is broken out,

00:41:45.700 not just on university campuses, but across so many of our institutions,

00:41:49.580 is that social media has put us all in a game in which the way we get prestige is by calling out others,

00:41:57.880 or at least, let's just start with students.

00:42:00.080 Young people who grew up with social media, everybody's always trying to figure out, what can I do that will gain me respect?

00:42:08.640 We actually care about respect and prestige more than we care about money.

00:42:11.580 I'd even say many of us care about money.

00:42:14.460 Once you're above a certain level, people care about money primarily for the prestige it gives.

00:42:18.600 So, social media changed the basic connectivity of society so that all you have to do is criticize someone online or join in with the criticism,

00:42:27.960 and you gain respect.

00:42:29.680 And so, what you have to see is this is not about people trying to destroy students, certainly,

00:42:38.080 but people are playing out their political battles.

00:42:40.460 They're using others as pawns in a way, and they're setting up a playing field in which kids just trying to get by and get by socially end up hurting each other.

00:42:49.940 Okay, so that is the, I think that's the addiction part, that's the end of the dog, the tail of the dog in a way.

00:42:57.280 I think the, what you talk about is, you know, this helicopter parent madness that went on,

00:43:05.400 that this is the first generation that, we're seeing the results now of children that could do no wrong,

00:43:12.700 received, you know, praise no matter what they did.

00:43:15.900 And we're seeing that generation now, and they can't handle the stress.

00:43:20.380 That's problem number one.

00:43:22.300 Children are too fragile to handle anything.

00:43:25.560 That's right.

00:43:26.440 So, why did things get so weird?

00:43:30.060 Why did they change, beginning with the students who arrived on campus right around 2013, 2014?

00:43:35.900 It's a mystery.

00:43:36.900 In fact, our book, we really frame it as a social science detective story,

00:43:40.240 because this new morality emerges on campus right around 2014, 2015.

00:43:44.540 The whole morality of safe spaces, trigger warnings, microaggressions, all those things.

00:43:50.460 And so, we think there are several causes, one of which is social media, which we just talked about.

00:43:54.800 Well, I'm sure we'll come back to.

00:43:55.980 But the other big one is, as you say, it's that we did this to our kids, trying to protect them.

00:44:02.100 We try, we all want our kids to be safe.

00:44:05.340 We all want our kids to be successful.

00:44:06.920 And oftentimes, good intentions backfire.

00:44:10.940 I think this is a lesson that conservatives are more attuned to than progressives.

00:44:15.360 So, beginning in the 1980s, and especially in the 1990s, we clamped down on kids' freedom.

00:44:23.880 We began overprotecting them.

00:44:26.020 We got this ridiculous idea that if we ever take our eyes off our kids, if our kids go around the corner to a park,

00:44:32.740 and there's no adult watching them, they will be kidnapped.

00:44:35.700 They will be snatched, abducted.

00:44:37.920 So, you know, there was a huge crime wave in the 1970s and 1980s.

00:44:41.800 And when you and I were growing up, and, you know, any of your listeners who are over 40, when we were growing up,

00:44:46.340 even though there was actually a lot of crime in America, you went out and played after school.

00:44:50.560 You went out with your friends.

00:44:51.440 You were in someone's backyard.

00:44:52.620 You walked around town.

00:44:53.840 You know, we rode our bicycles from around the age of eight.

00:44:56.140 So, that's the way childhood always was until the 1990s.

00:44:59.900 And even though the crime wave was actually ending in the 90s, things were getting safer and safer in the 90s.

00:45:05.360 So, that's the decade in which the social norm changed.

00:45:08.700 Maybe not everywhere in America, but certainly in urban and suburban areas.

00:45:12.640 It changed so that kids never got the right to practice being independent or self-supervising.

00:45:20.700 And then when they go off to college, are we surprised that they're having trouble being independent and self-supervising?

00:45:26.440 It's amazing.

00:45:27.460 You know, some of your recommendations, and one of the reasons I like this book so much is because you not only diagnosed the problem,

00:45:33.320 the last, what, third of the book or quarter of the book is, okay, so here's what we do.

00:45:38.820 And your recommendations, it's crazy that you need someone like you to say, you know what?

00:45:46.200 Have your kids ride their bike unsupervised, you know, down the street.

00:45:51.100 Send them to the store for a gallon of milk.

00:45:53.960 Have them do things, you know, that are unsupervised.

00:45:58.140 Just, my grandparents would have, they would have never, my parents wouldn't have even understood that advice.

00:46:03.680 Of course, that's what you do.

00:46:05.180 But now, I said this on the air the other day, and I said, I remember being maybe six, seven,

00:46:11.440 we had a little store, you know, about a block and a half away from our house,

00:46:14.740 and my mom would give me money, and she'd say, go get a gallon of milk.

00:46:18.060 Nobody thought twice of that.

00:46:19.420 I said this on the air, your advice, and everybody's like, I don't know, man.

00:46:24.380 I mean, that would be, I mean, could, you know what I mean?

00:46:28.140 And we're people who know the stats on crime.

00:46:31.100 Yeah, no, that's right.

00:46:32.420 And so one of the, so I, you know, I think the way to, the way to think about so much of what's going on in our society,

00:46:36.880 and, you know, I can't wait to read your book, because it's so easy for us to think that there are good people and bad people.

00:46:42.700 It's so easy for us to think that someone did this, or people are hurting our kids.

00:46:46.280 But really, you know, I'm a social psychologist, and what we specialize in is understanding the way social forces act on people.

00:46:53.500 So it's not that they're necessarily good or bad.

00:46:55.480 It's that we're all really social creatures.

00:46:57.920 And many people have traced this back to the origin of cable TV in the 1980s.

00:47:03.860 You know, when you and I were growing up, there were only three networks.

00:47:06.400 The news was only on half an hour, an hour a day.

00:47:09.180 There wasn't the chance to be submerged in stories about, you know, several kids go missing every year in America.

00:47:15.280 I mean, more than that, but in terms of, like, true abductions by strangers, it's extremely rare.

00:47:20.180 But it's only in the 1980s that we could all be immersed in that story all the time.

00:47:25.080 And so it was the change in the media environment that was one of the reasons for the huge freakout.

00:47:30.120 Another was declining family size.

00:47:32.040 When you and I were kids, there were a lot of families in my neighborhood that had five kids.

00:47:36.140 And now, you know, I live in New York City.

00:47:38.220 I have two kids.

00:47:39.480 Most of my friends' children, most of my kids' friends are only children.

00:47:43.040 It's rare to have a sibling.

00:47:44.720 So when parents have just one kid and they're surrounded by news stories about kids being abducted,

00:47:50.340 yeah, they don't let them walk to the corner store anymore.

00:47:53.640 Jonathan Haidt, we're going to continue with him in just a second.

00:47:57.220 The name of the book is The Coddling of the American Mind.

00:48:00.920 If you're only going to buy one book between now and Christmas, well, you have to buy mine.

00:48:05.240 But consider his.

00:48:07.300 This is a must-read book, I think, for this audience, The Coddling of the American Mind, available everywhere.

00:48:14.980 All right, we'll continue with our conversation in a minute.

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00:49:22.860 We have Jonathan Height.

00:49:29.660 Anybody who I think is a game changer individual, somebody who is really, who gets it and is actively engaged in trying to think differently and do things like save freedom of speech.

00:49:43.840 They are all fans or have read Jonathan Height's books.

00:49:50.160 Brilliant guy.

00:49:51.220 Comes at it very, very honestly.

00:49:53.320 Has changed as a person through writing his books.

00:49:57.300 And I just so respect him.

00:49:59.140 The Coddling of the American Mind is the book.

00:50:01.800 Jonathan, I'd like to get through the next two problems so then the next segment we can actually talk about some of the solutions that you have in your book.

00:50:08.860 Sure.

00:50:09.240 Sure.

00:50:09.520 So you reveal the three bad ideas.

00:50:12.480 One, what doesn't kill you makes you weaker.

00:50:14.840 The second one is always trust your feelings.

00:50:18.300 Let's go into that one.

00:50:19.700 Sure.

00:50:20.380 So my first book was called The Happiness Hypothesis, Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom.

00:50:27.520 And I read the most psychologically rich works from the ancient world.

00:50:32.680 So the Stoics from Greece and Rome, the Bible, the Old Testament, New Testament, the works of Buddha and Hinduism.

00:50:40.540 And one thing that they all have in common in every wisdom tradition, you find people saying something like this.

00:50:47.880 Here's Marcus Aurelius.

00:50:49.360 The whole universe is change and life itself is but what you deem it.

00:50:54.740 So we don't experience the world as it is.

00:50:56.300 We experience the world through our filters, our mental and emotional filters.

00:51:00.120 Here's Buddha saying essentially the same thing.

00:51:02.660 What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow.

00:51:08.620 Our life is the creation of our mind.

00:51:10.920 And this is the basis of most pop psychology, that if you're spending your life feeling angry, feeling cheated, it's up to you to change the filters.

00:51:23.360 Life is complicated and you get to decide which filters you're going to use.

00:51:28.000 And instead, what's happening on college campuses, and it goes back much earlier, is because we're afraid of hurting kids' feelings, a goal is in part to be sensitive and caring.

00:51:40.260 We think that if someone presents an idea that a student finds threatening or invalidating, if it invalidates a current idea, that can be painful.

00:51:49.580 Well, we don't want students to experience pain.

00:51:52.320 And so this whole idea of safe spaces, that if a speaker comes to campus, and one of the first cases was at Brown University, they were going to have a debate between two feminists,

00:52:03.640 one of whom believed that America is a rape culture, one of whom believed that America is not a rape culture.

00:52:10.440 And that's a great thing to talk about at a college campus at Brown University.

00:52:15.520 And because some students at Brown thought, well, what if a student at Brown had been raped?

00:52:20.080 It would be too painful for her to hear someone say that America is not systemically a rapist kind of society.

00:52:29.440 And so she might be protected.

00:52:30.440 Well, would it be healthy?

00:52:31.820 Of course not.

00:52:32.480 Or would it be healthy?

00:52:33.360 Exactly, exactly.

00:52:35.400 That's right.

00:52:36.300 So that's why the title of our book is The Coddling of the American Mind.

00:52:40.260 Coddling means overprotection.

00:52:42.180 And if educators get in their heads that students should be protected from uncomfortable moments,

00:52:47.340 from having their most cherished ideas challenged, well, you might feel like you're being nice to them, but my God, you're crippling them.

00:52:54.480 You're denying them.

00:52:56.000 Isn't that what a university is supposed to do?

00:52:59.680 If I'm paying my money, I want someone who will take everything that I believe is true and throw me up against the wall and make me prove it.

00:53:13.340 Make me look at all of the different things so I know how to find truth and I've been awakened so I know what's true to me.

00:53:26.500 Does that make sense?

00:53:28.060 My God, does it make sense to me?

00:53:30.740 Yes.

00:53:31.060 So the traditional idea of a university, I mean, we can trace it all the way back to Plato's Academy in ancient Greece.

00:53:39.120 If you have a community of people who argue and debate and discuss but are bound together by norms of friendship,

00:53:47.520 so if you just get people yelling at each other in the public square, it doesn't do any good.

00:53:51.700 But if you have a community that retires, that steps outside of downtown Athens and they have a place where they meet and they discuss love and justice and beauty,

00:54:01.160 and they have these spirited debates that Plato wrote about, well, that's wonderful.

00:54:04.300 That's how you find truth.

00:54:05.960 And so that is our myth or that is our origin story for Western universities.

00:54:10.660 Unfortunately, a new idea began creeping in in the 80s and 90s where the goal of educators should be to foster self-esteem,

00:54:18.400 to protect people, to make them feel safe.

00:54:21.920 And again, this overprotection is really, really bad for students.

00:54:26.100 One of the clearest signs that we're messing things up is that depression, anxiety, suicide, and self-harm,

00:54:34.780 that is teenagers cutting themselves to the point where they have to be admitted to the hospital,

00:54:39.120 these things began climbing very rapidly after about 2012.

00:54:43.280 So we are messing things up.

00:54:44.960 We're harming our kids in the name of protecting them, and we've got to stop.

00:54:48.220 But in your book, you talk about something that is absolutely incredible to me,

00:54:54.380 that now at universities, if you have gone to the, you know, the, I don't know,

00:55:01.280 the campus shrink or the doctor, and there's anything regarding mental health,

00:55:06.820 you will get an email from the university that says, is this your book or is this another one?

00:55:12.640 Yes, this is a story of the book, yes.

00:55:14.860 All right, go ahead and tell the story.

00:55:16.180 Yeah, so, well, first, let me make clear, this was just at one university, this is...

00:55:20.640 Oh, I thought it was happening at it.

00:55:22.040 Yeah, but we told the story, this is at Northern Michigan State University,

00:55:27.700 in which it was routine that if anybody went in to talk about depression or anything like that,

00:55:34.040 they got a letter telling them, you must not talk about this with your friends,

00:55:37.940 or we might have to send you home.

00:55:40.120 Now, this is crazy to say, to tell people who are having emotional difficulties,

00:55:45.040 that they better not talk with anyone about it because, now, the university was afraid of liability.

00:55:50.180 The university was afraid, well, what if you tell someone and then that contributes to their depression

00:55:55.060 and then they commit suicide?

00:55:56.820 I mean, it's bizarre reasoning.

00:55:58.300 But the point is that the bureaucracy at a university is working to protect the university from bad publicity and from lawsuits.

00:56:08.520 The therapeutic community is working to protect students from harms that they see that I think are not really harms in most cases.

00:56:17.140 Universities are complicated places, and what we try to do in the book is trace out how this weird, bad, bad culture is happening,

00:56:26.020 all from people pursuing what they think are good motives.

00:56:30.120 Okay.

00:56:31.400 We only have about 30 seconds.

00:56:33.480 I want to come back and talk to you a little bit about the solutions that you outline in the book,

00:56:41.160 and it's the reason why I think every parent should read this book.

00:56:46.160 We'll talk to Jonathan Haidt about that when we return.

00:56:49.640 The Coddling of the American Mind.

00:56:51.960 It is on the must-read list.

00:56:55.140 If you're a listener of this program, you must read this book,

00:56:58.860 The Coddling of the American Mind.

00:57:00.440 Back in just a second.

00:57:06.040 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:57:07.840 We are currently trying to schedule Jonathan Haidt's co-author for a podcast that can last up to two hours uninterrupted,

00:57:19.320 which is really the way to have this discussion, because we're going to quickly run out of time.

00:57:24.120 Jonathan, I want to get to some of the solutions, but I would rather just talk to you outside of the book here for a second.

00:57:33.320 The last time we spoke was Righteous Mind when it came out, and I don't know if you remember the interview,

00:57:43.000 but I was really excited when I talked to you, because I think you have so many of the answers,

00:57:49.020 and you're seeing things, and it works.

00:57:52.300 I have used the principles in The Righteous Mind in one-on-one settings and in front of a crowd of a thousand people

00:58:02.880 who I asked at the beginning of the conversation,

00:58:06.620 how many people here hate me, think they hate me?

00:58:09.840 And it was almost unanimous.

00:58:12.500 I think it was just my family that didn't raise their hand.

00:58:15.500 And at the end of the 20 minutes, I asked that question again, and it was maybe 5%.

00:58:22.220 And it's amazing when you can humble yourself and understand that many times we're saying much of the same stuff,

00:58:35.160 just using different language.

00:58:37.640 When I spoke to you, you were pessimistic.

00:58:41.760 I said, this is the answer, and you said, no, it's going to take too many people to do it,

00:58:47.080 and they're not going to do it, and I don't think that.

00:58:49.740 I don't think so.

00:58:52.780 Go ahead.

00:58:53.700 You want to comment here?

00:58:54.540 I've got a question on it.

00:58:56.120 Go ahead.

00:58:56.700 Put up the question.

00:58:57.880 I've got plenty to say.

00:58:58.700 Okay.

00:58:59.360 So I have seen this work.

00:59:03.880 I have, I believe, and I could be wrong, but I believe because of the problem that's happening in the universities now,

00:59:11.860 it's actually turning out to be a good thing because people who are on both sides are now waking up and going,

00:59:21.540 okay, this whole freedom of speech thing, this is a real problem.

00:59:24.440 People who were seeing us versus them, people who were trying to say, hey, we've got to be PC, banish that voice,

00:59:34.160 they're now all starting to say, this is getting scary, and I think things are changing for the better.

00:59:42.080 Well, I think that you're right that so many people are now alarmed on both sides,

00:59:47.360 alarmed that this country could actually break apart.

00:59:52.640 It could actually fail.

00:59:54.500 A few years ago, most of us would have put, you weren't seeing the kind of books you are now about the end of democracy.

01:00:00.920 I think enough people are now scared that I'm hopeful that there will be,

01:00:04.460 there will be a large group on both sides of the aisle pushing for change.

01:00:07.920 I'm hoping for some sort of like center-right, center-left, libertarian coalition to, and I just read the description.

01:00:14.700 Well, I hope so.

01:00:15.640 I just read the description of your book on Amazon.

01:00:17.320 It sounds like you're a part of that, as am I.

01:00:20.580 I think you and I both come at this.

01:00:22.180 You coming from the right, me coming from the left, and recognizing that the people on the other side,

01:00:28.320 while you may think that they are causing harm, their goal wasn't to cause harm.

01:00:32.660 They are pursuing moral virtues as they see it, and that is the road to resolving it.

01:00:37.720 I'm guessing the technique that you use when you address hostile audiences is you start either by acknowledging something you think they're right about

01:00:45.460 or acknowledging something you think you were wrong about.

01:00:48.440 Correct.

01:00:48.720 Is that right?

01:00:49.120 One of those techniques?

01:00:50.780 Yep.

01:00:51.060 And that's straight out of Dale Carnegie.

01:00:52.760 If people, this was very formative for me, reading Dale Carnegie's book, How to Win Friends and Influence People.

01:00:58.820 I read it in graduate school.

01:01:00.240 He's a brilliant social psychologist.

01:01:01.940 So I think the skills we need as a country now are basically the skills of forgiveness, acknowledgement, reaching out to people, humility.

01:01:11.960 I think I've spoken to a number of Christian audiences in the last month or two, and I often go back to the Sermon on the Mount and the advice at the end, you know, well, you hypocrite.

01:01:25.380 First, take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

01:01:31.380 Start with yourself.

01:01:32.460 It has magical powers.

01:01:34.660 Jonathan, I don't know if you know this.

01:01:36.200 Very few people do, but you should look it up.

01:01:38.340 You will enjoy it.

01:01:39.160 Read Rudyard Kipling's poem, The Gods of the Copybook Headings.

01:01:44.560 The Gods of the Copybook Headings, okay?

01:01:47.220 Yeah, okay.

01:01:47.900 Look, you will love it.

01:01:49.280 But its point is, you know, when social progress fails and all of these lies come undone, the Gods of the Copybook Headings with Terror and Slaughter Return, basically it means you will find eternal truths again.

01:02:08.520 No matter how hard you work against it, it will reset itself.

01:02:12.600 And the reason why I bring this up is because I'm finding it difficult to navigate on both sides people who say or want to say, I told you so.

01:02:29.620 So let me give you an example.

01:02:32.640 What you're saying in this book, when I read it, I'm reading it, you know, I'm reading the big overarching ideas in it.

01:02:42.600 And I'm like, of course, of course.

01:02:45.960 And it feels like to a conservative that this stuff has come from the universities, have come from the eggheads, and we have been saying, no, that doesn't work.

01:02:56.120 That's not right.

01:02:57.340 So it's easy for us to say, see, I told you so.

01:03:00.940 We were right, which gets us nowhere.

01:03:03.720 But it feels so good.

01:03:06.140 That's right.

01:03:06.480 How do you always, how do, I know we all have less than a minute with you.

01:03:09.600 How do we, how can you conquer that?

01:03:13.360 Well, I think you have to just withstand the people saying that and just keep going.

01:03:17.560 Here's the number one piece of advice for people who have children.

01:03:21.200 And this is bipartisan.

01:03:22.460 This is everyone can agree to.

01:03:24.280 Prepare the child for the road, not the road for the child.

01:03:28.080 My top suggestion for anyone listening who has kids of any age, go to letgrow.org.

01:03:35.460 It's an organization started by Lenore Skenazy, who wrote the book Free Range Kids.

01:03:39.540 And it gives you ideas for how you can help to prepare your child for the road of life ahead, even when the schools are going to be trying to protect the child from negative experience, that they're going to try to change the road for the child.

01:03:52.940 Stick with it.

01:03:54.760 Find other parents that you can organize with.

01:03:56.800 Find other ways that you can let your kids out.

01:03:58.520 Let them practice independence.

01:04:00.560 So we have a lot of suggestions in the book for ways that you can help your kids grow strong, ways you can encourage the schools to improve, ways you can encourage universities to improve, to go back to the kind of university you described before.

01:04:12.420 That's going to really challenge people, push them up against the wall and make them learn to defend their ideas or change their ideas.

01:04:18.620 Yeah.

01:04:19.400 Thank you so much, Jonathan.

01:04:20.440 Appreciate it.

01:04:21.520 God bless.

01:04:22.080 Keep up the good work.

01:04:23.160 You bet.

01:04:23.880 Jonathan Haidt, coddling of the American mind.

01:04:27.420 And you mentioned a bunch of his research in your book as well, Addition to Our Age, because a lot of it's just really important and supports all the things that, you know, I think I'd argue conservatives have been talking about for a long time.

01:04:39.980 Long time.

01:04:40.420 This guy is the reason why I like him so much is he's honest.

01:04:44.560 He started to write the righteous mind and his goal was to write a book on how progressives could win.

01:04:53.880 And they could, you know, debunk the right and the rhetoric of the right.

01:04:58.800 And he started doing his own homework and he started to immerse himself in the right.

01:05:03.540 And we found out on the air last time he was on that because I said, you're going to hate this because I know who you are.

01:05:11.540 But, you know, you really have affected me.

01:05:14.860 And he said, well, same back to you.

01:05:18.680 He said, you were one of the guys I studied.

01:05:21.140 And he said, you use all of this language.

01:05:24.600 He said, you helped me break through and see that conservatives aren't monsters.

01:05:31.100 And I thought for sure they were.

01:05:32.760 And he said, but because you use some of my language and you probably know what language it is, if you're a conservative, because it's the language that you're like, oh, you know, I bet he suspect.

01:05:42.600 Uh, I use the language of both sides unknowingly at the time.

01:05:50.020 Uh, and that opened him up to start to listen and go, wait a minute.

01:05:56.740 And as he was looking at the language, he figured this all out and figured out, no, we're coming at, we're arguing about two different things, even though we know, even though we think we're arguing about the same thing.

01:06:10.600 It's fascinating.

01:06:12.600 I want to give just a couple of the, uh, you know, he said, prepare the child for the road, not the road for the child.

01:06:19.260 Listen to this.

01:06:20.620 Assume that your kids are more capable this month than they were last month.

01:06:25.740 Each month, ask them what tasks or challenges they think they can do on their own, such as walking to the store a few blocks away, making their own breakfast, starting a dog walking business.

01:06:36.620 Resist the urge to jump in and help them when they're struggling to do things and seem to be doing them the wrong way.

01:06:43.860 Trial and error is slower, but it is usually better as a teacher than direct instruction.

01:06:50.780 Uh, let your kids take more small risks.

01:06:54.740 Let them, let them learn from getting bumps and bruises.

01:06:59.400 Uh, learn about free range kids movement and incorporate her lessons, uh, into your family's life.

01:07:06.720 Um, Lenore Skenazy is awesome.

01:07:10.820 She's one of my, she has such a great perspective on the world and it's so, it's so weird because everything in me factually knows that all of this is right.

01:07:22.260 And I know logically that all of these things are right.

01:07:26.840 Of course, kids could walk to the store a few blocks away.

01:07:29.000 But your feelings, crime is way down and it's safer than ever, but of course they should lose from their bumps and bruises.

01:07:34.420 But like, as a parent, I don't want my kid to get hurt.

01:07:38.960 I don't want to risk my kid.

01:07:40.400 It's, it's silly.

01:07:41.700 What if they go and they get, what if something does happen?

01:07:43.720 What if they wander out into the street and get hit by a car?

01:07:45.560 And I, I've come to the conclusion at least in my life, and I, uh, I will admit this, that I think it's, we look at this as, uh, an instinct that is, we are overprotecting our kids.

01:07:57.240 In reality, I think it's actually a selfish instinct.

01:08:00.840 I, I think you look at it as, I don't want to be the parent that everyone is looking at and saying, oh my gosh, like, why would you let your kid ride the subway on their own?

01:08:12.340 Which is how Lenore kind of came into the public eye.

01:08:14.800 You know, it's you wanting to protect yourself because you don't want to be the idiot who lets your kid go to the store and then gets kidnapped or hit by a car.

01:08:22.820 And it's in, and of course, like it's a, you don't want that relationship to end because you make a silly mistake and don't tell them that one time that they should jump off.

01:08:32.080 You know, they're jumping off something into the pool and you, you don't warn them that time.

01:08:35.880 And when they jump off, they hit the side and they become paralyzed.

01:08:39.140 You don't want, you don't want that to be on you.

01:08:42.340 Obviously you don't want it to happen, but the motivation for the helicopter parenting is not because you think it's going to happen.

01:08:47.820 It's because you don't want to be on, on the hook for it.

01:08:52.160 Interesting.

01:08:53.280 Listen to this.

01:08:54.560 He says, you know, let your kids go, let your, you know, encourage them to walk or ride bicycles to and from school at the earliest age possible.

01:09:03.040 He says, you know, let them go explore, but print this out.

01:09:07.640 This is in the book, but print this out.

01:09:10.360 It's a little card that you give to your kid.

01:09:13.100 He said, laminate it and give it to your kid.

01:09:15.440 And when somebody comes up to your kid and says, where are your parents?

01:09:19.660 Have them explain this and hand it to the, to the person.

01:09:23.560 Okay.

01:09:23.960 Okay.

01:09:24.600 And it says, I am a let grow kid.

01:09:27.480 Hi, my name is fill in the blank.

01:09:30.000 I'm not lost, nor am I neglected.

01:09:32.780 I've been taught how to cross the street.

01:09:34.660 I never go off with strangers, but I can talk to them, including you.

01:09:39.480 The state generally grants a substantial leeway for parents to decide what age their, their child can do things independently.

01:09:47.440 Mine believe it is safe, healthy, and fun for me to explore.

01:09:51.360 If you don't believe me, please call or text them at the number.

01:09:56.300 If you think it's inappropriate or illegal for me to be on my own, would you please one read Huckleberry Finn to.

01:10:04.860 Remember your own childhood.

01:10:06.900 Was your parent with you every second?

01:10:09.820 Today's crime rate is back what it was in 1963.

01:10:15.300 It is safer to play outside now than you were, than, than it was when you were my age.

01:10:21.900 It's great.

01:10:22.860 The coddling of the American mind.

01:10:34.420 All right.

01:10:37.400 So do you want to sell your home?

01:10:38.880 You want to sell your home on time and for the most amount of money?

01:10:43.160 Real estate agents.

01:10:44.520 I trust.com is the website that we built.

01:10:48.200 We are not a real estate company.

01:10:49.920 What we are is we're, uh, uh, what is it?

01:10:54.640 Matchmaker.com.

01:10:55.860 What do you say?

01:10:56.220 What is that?

01:10:56.740 Uh, except we don't have the, you know, the love quotient thing.

01:11:00.360 Um, uh, what we are is we are people that are, are lining you up with the best real estate agent in your area.

01:11:09.240 That's what we do.

01:11:10.520 You're looking for somebody that can sell your home, can sell your home fast, is the expert, is not the person that is doing this, you know, part-time, has the same kind of values that, that you have.

01:11:22.700 Everybody who is, you know, on our staff is a, is a fan of the show.

01:11:26.960 Um, and again, they don't work for us, but, uh, it's like we're a big family.

01:11:32.740 We have 1,500 agents all across the country, so if you're looking to sell your home, these are the people with the right marketing plan.

01:11:39.780 These are the people who are tried and true in your area.

01:11:43.300 They know your home, they know your neighborhood, and they have the plan to be able to sell it.

01:11:49.100 So, you're looking to buy or sell a home and you need somebody on your side?

01:11:53.880 Go to realestateagentsitrust.com.

01:11:56.100 That's realestateagentsitrust.com.

01:12:02.740 You know, Tanya and I were having a, um, conversation in the car, uh, the other day about letting the kids ride their bikes to school.

01:12:10.800 And, uh, you know, she immediately, oh, no, no, no, no.

01:12:13.740 And I said, honey, it is safer today than it was when we were kids.

01:12:18.100 And she couldn't, she just couldn't believe it.

01:12:21.780 And, um, I suggested to her that she read my new book, Addicted to Outrage.

01:12:26.020 Um, it comes out tomorrow, by the way.

01:12:28.640 Um, but I want to share some things after the, after the, uh, top of the hour break.

01:12:32.400 Uh, it's on page 15 and it just, and I go back to this and their stats all the way through the book like this.

01:12:41.640 But on page 15, I just go through some of the stats on, on crime and what has changed in America that no one is talking about.

01:12:52.620 And it's why we feel so depressed and we feel so bad.

01:12:56.900 Because, look, good news doesn't sell.

01:12:59.920 It just doesn't sell.

01:13:00.900 Nobody's like, yeah, you know what, let's lead with the good news.

01:13:05.000 Nobody leads with the good news.

01:13:07.660 When's the last time you saw the headline above the fold on the front page?

01:13:14.000 Everything is much better than it was five years ago.

01:13:18.440 You don't, you don't, you don't ever see that.

01:13:22.500 But we have to recognize that because our paranoia has, has gone off the charts.

01:13:29.560 We think we're living in a time and a country that doesn't exist.

01:13:35.340 We'll start there at the beginning of next hour.

01:13:40.660 Standby.

01:13:40.940 The country has been pushed to the limit.

01:13:45.340 Our political bonds have been torn apart.

01:13:47.620 We need a true leader who can save us from certain doom.

01:13:51.320 Unfortunately, we could only find this guy.

01:13:53.800 Hey, it's Glenn Beck.

01:13:54.920 Glenn Beck is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way.

01:14:00.260 He might not be able to save the country, but at least we can all go down laughing.

01:14:03.860 Glenn Beck Live, the Addicted to Outrage Tour, on tour this fall.

01:14:07.680 For tickets, VIP packages, and more, visit glennbeck.com.

01:14:13.500 Glenn Beck.

01:14:16.000 All right, let's talk about democratic socialism here for a second because they're, you know, they're big into the, it feels, feels, feels, feels.

01:14:23.660 You know, they've got a bad case of the feels.

01:14:26.560 Throw them some props for a second.

01:14:28.120 They're great at identifying their audience and hitting them with a message that suits straight to their heart because it feels.

01:14:33.700 Struggling with medical bills?

01:14:35.140 Oh my gosh, we feel for you.

01:14:36.400 Free universal medical health care.

01:14:38.460 Are you having a hard time paying for rent or mortgage?

01:14:40.580 We feel.

01:14:41.820 No worries.

01:14:42.880 Make way for a housing for, you know, being a federal right.

01:14:47.460 Are you a student looking at years of paying off school loans?

01:14:50.200 We feel for you.

01:14:50.960 We've got you.

01:14:51.460 We feel.

01:14:52.700 I'll promise to cancel all those pesky student loans for you.

01:14:55.260 It's great.

01:14:56.680 So you can see how this message resonates with people who are struggling.

01:15:00.440 And I guarantee you, we hit the next collapse, the next 2008, which will be worse.

01:15:06.540 A lot of your friends who are listening now who are pointing to those people are saying, no, no, that's crazy.

01:15:13.960 Yeah, we can't afford that.

01:15:15.340 We'll be saying we have to have it.

01:15:18.360 All right.

01:15:20.480 No one can explain how the social, the democratic socialists are going to pay for, what is it, Stu?

01:15:31.180 $32 million for Medicare for all.

01:15:34.000 No, a trillion, Glenn.

01:15:34.980 Trillion, sorry.

01:15:35.580 $5.4 trillion for guaranteed jobs, $1.4 trillion on just the student loans that are out, $1.3 trillion on free college, paid family, medical leave, Social Security.

01:15:46.880 It's $40 trillion is the bill.

01:15:51.700 Nobody can get Cortez to answer the question.

01:15:55.000 Here she is with Jake Tapper.

01:15:57.220 How are you going to pay for that?

01:15:58.340 $40 trillion is quite a bit of money, and the taxes that you talked about raising to pay for this, to pay for your agenda, only count for two.

01:16:09.000 And we're going by left-leaning analysts.

01:16:12.220 Right.

01:16:12.400 Well, when you look again at, again, how our health care works, currently we pay, much of these costs go into the private sector.

01:16:20.180 So what we see is, for example, you know, a year ago I was working downtown in a restaurant.

01:16:25.920 I went around and I asked how many of you folks have health insurance.

01:16:29.760 Not a single person did because they would have had to have paid $200 a month for a payment for insurance that had an $8,000 deductible.

01:16:42.200 What these represent are lower costs overall for these programs.

01:16:46.180 And additionally, what this is is a broader agenda.

01:16:50.460 Okay.

01:16:51.400 She hasn't answered the question there.

01:16:53.560 Let me just start here.

01:16:55.020 She said, a year ago, I was working in a bar.

01:16:58.880 Year ago.

01:16:59.800 I just saw a photo shoot she did just last weekend where she's wearing a $5,000 outfit in the photo shoot.

01:17:06.500 A year ago, she was working in a bar.

01:17:09.880 Now look at her.

01:17:12.320 I'm really tired of, I'm really tired of how bad things are here in America.

01:17:18.360 There are 320 million of us that are lucky enough to call the United States of America our home.

01:17:28.140 That is 4.4% of the U.S. population.

01:17:32.420 4.4% are fellow citizens lucky enough to live here.

01:17:39.880 In my new book on chapter 30, let me just quote.

01:17:45.740 Of that 4.4%, we own 25% of the world's wealth.

01:17:52.520 Much more if you count the U.S. companies housing cash and assets in foreign countries.

01:17:57.220 We consume 33% of the world's energy production.

01:18:00.860 Now, I want you to know, all these things have been turned into horrible things.

01:18:03.860 We hold command on all seven seas.

01:18:07.500 We own 48% of all satellites in space.

01:18:11.960 We are the only nation that has sent a man to the moon and back.

01:18:18.100 By the way, we did that four times.

01:18:21.240 And strangely, I just had to throw this in.

01:18:24.580 We also consume 41% of the world's chewing gum.

01:18:28.700 But that's a different story.

01:18:29.700 In barely 120 years, we grew to become the world's most powerful nation.

01:18:39.220 And 100 years after that, we are the only superpower on Earth.

01:18:46.560 We're pretty set for the future as well, believe it or not.

01:18:49.600 We are, as far as resources go, more than 55% of the world's shale oil is here.

01:19:00.840 65% of the world's uranium is here.

01:19:04.240 We have enough energy to provide power to the entire planet, including projected population growth,

01:19:10.740 for the next 2,000 years.

01:19:13.240 And if you doubt that, Google TerraPower Wave Reactor.

01:19:18.760 What else?

01:19:20.420 The bottom, I know, she was working in a bar last year.

01:19:24.780 And people can't afford the $8,000 deductible.

01:19:32.240 Just trying to breathe.

01:19:34.760 We're trying to just remember all those Lamaze classes.

01:19:37.360 Because I think I'm going to give birth to something really ugly if I don't breathe.

01:19:40.760 Why is there an $8,000 deductible, one might ask?

01:19:47.800 But not now.

01:19:50.400 The bottom 10% of our population, the bottom 10% of our population by way of wealth,

01:19:59.600 is still the top 10% compared to the world population.

01:20:05.180 We have 68% of the world's PhDs living among our population.

01:20:12.500 Many of them are foreign-born and educated.

01:20:14.860 But the money is better here.

01:20:18.200 In the Me Too era, easy to focus on the very real and disgusting cases of violence against women that flood the media.

01:20:24.800 But it might be worth noting, I don't know, occasionally, that violence against women is actually dropping.

01:20:33.320 Violence against wives and girlfriends has dropped by 75% since the 1990s.

01:20:40.680 While news cameras point at Charlottesville as, you know, Richard Spencer and his band of tiki torch-touting buffoons

01:20:51.660 and the NFL players kneeling to protest police brutality and racism in our police departments,

01:20:57.360 you should know this.

01:20:59.340 Hate crimes against blacks have dropped 50%.

01:21:03.520 Oh, it's so bad here, nobody can afford anything.

01:21:08.560 Because of capitalism and the Western way of life,

01:21:12.480 the amount of money that we now spend on necessities such as food, transportation,

01:21:18.580 our home, our clothing, our furniture, and our utilities and gas

01:21:22.620 has been cut in half in the last 90 years.

01:21:29.600 Think of that one.

01:21:30.820 What your grandparents were paying in the Great Depression

01:21:37.220 has been cut in half.

01:21:42.420 The rate of children dying before the age of five has dropped over half since 1990.

01:21:48.580 Now, that is a miracle that should be on the front page.

01:21:52.220 That is, according to researchers, like averting 27 major plane crashes filled only with children

01:22:04.360 every single day.

01:22:08.460 What do you think we take a moment and go,

01:22:11.680 damn, capitalism is great.

01:22:13.880 Some other improvements, apparently nobody wants to be connected to.

01:22:21.680 Malaria is down 32%.

01:22:24.040 HIV is down 50%.

01:22:26.340 Neonatal preterm birth complications down 55%.

01:22:30.600 Protein energy malnutrition down 57%.

01:22:35.120 So much so that the World Health Organization has come out and said malnutrition is no longer a global problem.

01:22:44.020 The global problem now is obesity.

01:22:50.720 Lower respiratory infections down 66%.

01:22:53.600 Measles down 91%.

01:22:55.120 Arthur Brooks says it's the greatest anti-poverty achievement in the history of mankind,

01:23:02.220 and it's happened in our lifetime.

01:23:07.380 Why?

01:23:09.220 Because of everything they're trying to dismantle.

01:23:11.900 I'm sorry, but if you're anti-capitalist, you don't know your butt from your elbow.

01:23:17.240 You don't know what capitalism has done in your lifetime.

01:23:22.380 It's capitalism, technological and medical innovation, free trade, Donald Trump, free trade.

01:23:34.400 Now, let me just put the miracle of the life-saving things that have happened because of the United States of America,

01:23:43.140 capitalism and free trade.

01:23:45.800 Let me put it into perspective.

01:23:48.120 Give you some good news.

01:23:49.900 For everybody.

01:23:50.580 If you happen to be pro-life, you've probably fought hard.

01:23:55.800 You think you want to stop Planned Parenthood.

01:23:57.840 That's good.

01:23:59.080 You want the doors shuttered immediately.

01:24:01.260 That's good.

01:24:02.440 But to put this into perspective, how many deaths has Planned Parenthood caused?

01:24:09.000 Let me give you some perspective.

01:24:10.300 If you shut the doors of Planned Parenthood, you would have to eliminate the number of abortions that occur annually because of Planned Parenthood more than 19 times to be able to equal this.

01:24:26.540 Progressives, you've been fighting to repeal the Second Amendment with hopes of stopping all gun-related homicide.

01:24:33.400 I've got more good news for you.

01:24:34.760 The incredible global life-saving achievement that capitalism and the United States are responsible for, equivalent to more than 630 years worth of gun-related murders.

01:24:49.700 I don't know.

01:24:56.260 I think I'm going to go with those facts.

01:24:59.160 I think I'm going to keep Addicted to Outrage.

01:25:02.520 Those facts are in Addicted to Outrage.

01:25:03.740 I'm going to keep that handy.

01:25:04.820 I'm going to look at those things more than I look at Twitter.

01:25:08.700 You know, last hour we were talking to Jonathan Haidt, who is just a brilliant, brilliant scholar, researcher, a guy who was a progressive.

01:25:32.260 He's woken up, changed, and now is fighting.

01:25:36.940 He started a new organization, 2,000 college professors that are saying, this is crazy.

01:25:42.820 We have to stop the safe zones trigger warnings, and we need freedom of speech on campus.

01:25:48.440 I think some good things are happening, and they're happening from people who used to be on the left.

01:25:54.460 Yeah, I think there's a—a lot of this is feeling, right?

01:25:59.240 People get angry, and they use emotion to try to, you know, express some sort of virtue or whatever.

01:26:08.000 And I feel like there's a pushback now against that.

01:26:10.660 People don't—people—I mean, America was built as a logical place, you know?

01:26:15.180 I mean, it's a place that is supposed to look at these things honestly.

01:26:19.400 Judge me by the content of my character.

01:26:21.320 Exactly.

01:26:21.920 Right.

01:26:22.140 That's what we're supposed to be here.

01:26:23.740 We've seen all over the world how emotion gets out of control, and governments take over and do terrible things.

01:26:28.800 We've always been the people saying, you know what?

01:26:30.480 People can take care of themselves.

01:26:32.680 People can self-govern, largely.

01:26:35.040 People can do these things.

01:26:36.480 This experiment was based on that, and so often now it becomes lost.

01:26:41.660 But I feel like there's that—and I don't know.

01:26:43.680 I don't know.

01:26:44.160 Like, I mean, you know, one of the things a lot of these people kind of fall in this umbrella that people call the intellectual dark web, right?

01:26:50.140 Where people are saying, you know what?

01:26:51.760 Maybe I want to actually have an honest conversation and explore the nuance of this situation a little bit.

01:26:56.560 But the fact that dark web is attached to it shows, you know, how—

01:27:01.680 Underground.

01:27:01.860 Underground it is.

01:27:02.800 You have—it's almost—you almost have to, like, hide when you want to come out and say, you know what?

01:27:07.420 Okay.

01:27:07.800 I feel like this is interesting to explore fully.

01:27:10.320 You weren't with me when we're in Los Angeles today, and we're—we've rented a house, and the whole crew is at this house.

01:27:19.360 And yesterday we come in, and we always have this joke when we're driving up.

01:27:25.300 Should Glenn go in?

01:27:26.900 Because if the owner's there, it might be a trigger.

01:27:30.480 Right, right.

01:27:31.120 Okay?

01:27:31.460 So we walk in, and I always walk in, and we walk in, and there's the owner.

01:27:37.800 And he looks at me, and he goes, oh my gosh, you're Glenn Beck.

01:27:42.600 Now, in Los Angeles, there's about a 99.9% chance that that is not going to end well.

01:27:52.440 Okay?

01:27:53.300 Oh my God, you're Glenn Beck.

01:27:57.060 Wait until I share with you his next sentence when we come back.

01:28:02.420 Okay, I do have to tell you this.

01:28:09.980 I got up this morning, and my back is killing me.

01:28:16.320 Stu and I were talking about this on the way in.

01:28:19.740 I could barely get it.

01:28:20.840 I don't know if you saw me get out of the car.

01:28:22.680 I could barely get out of the car today.

01:28:24.320 And it's because I'm sleeping on this mattress, and I guess it's a good mattress at the Airbnb.

01:28:32.320 But I need my Casper mattress.

01:28:34.660 My back is killing me today.

01:28:36.700 Wow, from one night?

01:28:37.620 One night.

01:28:38.140 Wow.

01:28:38.680 One night.

01:28:40.200 Makes a big difference.

01:28:41.020 It makes a huge difference.

01:28:42.740 If you want to sleep well, Casper mattress.

01:28:46.700 No brainer.

01:28:47.400 And here's why.

01:28:48.040 Anyway, I will tell you, when you change mattresses like I just did, you will have not a good night's sleep because it's just perfect.

01:29:00.000 It's the perfect mattress for you.

01:29:01.380 And if it's not, just return it.

01:29:03.120 You can try it for 100 nights.

01:29:04.880 But whenever you change a mattress, it takes a few nights before your body adjusts to it.

01:29:12.540 And it makes a difference.

01:29:14.260 That's why you can't try these things out in stores.

01:29:16.500 You've got to sleep on them for a few nights.

01:29:19.300 Casper will ship right to your door for free in a small, how did they put the mattress in that box?

01:29:25.760 They'll pick it up if you don't love it.

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01:29:31.720 It is a genius mattress.

01:29:34.120 Letting you try it for 100 nights?

01:29:36.480 That's why they have 35,000 five-star reviews on their products, you know, from Google and Amazon.

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01:29:58.560 Addicted to Outrage.

01:30:00.320 The new book from Glenn Beck, Addicted to Outrage, is available everywhere tomorrow.

01:30:06.240 Order it now at Amazon.com.

01:30:08.100 You've got to read, it's a great book.

01:30:13.280 It's a great book.

01:30:13.920 I am so nervous about it.

01:30:16.160 We'll talk about that later.

01:30:17.240 But I want to finish this story.

01:30:19.360 We're in L.A.

01:30:20.320 We got in last night.

01:30:22.160 And we're renting an Airbnb.

01:30:24.960 And the owner happens to be there.

01:30:26.460 Which, when you're me in L.A., that doesn't usually go well.

01:30:32.120 And you can just see it.

01:30:33.920 We were walking in, and I said to, I think it was Michelle, I looked at Michelle and I said,

01:30:38.940 This is always fun.

01:30:39.880 Watch their eyes.

01:30:41.840 And I came down the stairs, and the bottom of the stairs was the owner.

01:30:45.340 And he went, Oh, my, you're Glenn Beck.

01:30:49.000 And his eyes were as wide as saucers.

01:30:51.460 And then he looked at everybody, and then he looked back at me, and he said,

01:30:55.800 This is the greatest thing.

01:30:58.760 I'm a conservative.

01:31:00.840 And I said, Shut up.

01:31:02.520 You're the one.

01:31:03.820 And he said no.

01:31:06.080 And he took us around, and he said, this is a quote.

01:31:10.960 I've lived here, I think it was 90s, early 90s, or late 80s.

01:31:15.100 I can't remember the year.

01:31:16.540 But decades.

01:31:18.620 I think that's the first time I've ever said that out loud to anyone.

01:31:22.240 I said, What?

01:31:23.980 I'm a conservative.

01:31:25.880 Wow.

01:31:26.780 What?

01:31:28.060 He said, You just get slaughtered here.

01:31:31.800 You just get slaughtered.

01:31:33.000 He said, I'd find myself not being able to do business or having friends.

01:31:36.920 I thought to myself, You know, I live in Texas.

01:31:39.480 There is no redder of a red state than Texas.

01:31:43.800 I don't know any, anybody who lives on the block with a liberal that has ever hassled them

01:31:54.700 and is anything other than friendly.

01:31:57.420 That doesn't define you.

01:32:00.720 I don't understand this.

01:32:03.060 I really don't understand this mentality of the left of, I'm going to destroy you.

01:32:09.660 There are Beto signs, you know, in Texas, all over Texas.

01:32:14.140 I don't see anybody taking those up or egging the people's houses.

01:32:19.920 Don't see it.

01:32:21.000 Yeah.

01:32:21.220 We have something coming up on TV this week about partisan identity.

01:32:26.400 Oh, yeah.

01:32:26.760 And one of the interesting things I thought is that we've come to a point now where sort

01:32:32.280 of that base level way you identify yourself, which has been things like, you know, maybe

01:32:37.420 gender, right?

01:32:38.320 Or race, right?

01:32:39.540 Which now those are apparently totally fluid and you can't identify yourself by those things

01:32:43.060 anymore.

01:32:44.120 But the way that people used to identify themselves, maybe their heritage, their national heritage,

01:32:48.400 now their political party affiliation is essentially at that level.

01:32:54.140 It's their God.

01:32:54.880 And that's not, that's not the way it was supposed to be.

01:32:57.960 I mean, think this country was designed in a way to de-emphasize politics, right?

01:33:02.940 It was, it was designed, it was designed in a way that you could, you can, you're, the

01:33:06.800 government should have a small role in your life as possible.

01:33:10.000 And yet so many people just can constantly obsess about politics.

01:33:13.780 I want to, I want to read tomorrow.

01:33:15.040 We, we have to go through this research that we found over the weekend.

01:33:19.620 Stu and I were talking about it this morning off air.

01:33:21.460 How amazing it is.

01:33:23.100 They can tell you if you're white or black, if you are a rich or poor, you know, liberal

01:33:32.140 or conservative, Republican or Democrat, all by like the peanut butter that you buy.

01:33:38.680 It's incredible.

01:33:40.440 And when you look at the list of things, we're going through it today.

01:33:43.980 We're like, how do you, what, how do you say GIF is conservative?

01:33:50.020 How's that possible?

01:33:51.580 But somehow or another it is.

01:33:53.700 And we have to go through that list because it's, the, the divide is getting wider and wider

01:34:00.800 and it doesn't make any sense.

01:34:03.260 It really doesn't make any sense.

01:34:04.960 That'll be on tomorrow's radio broadcast back in a second.

01:34:13.420 Welcome to the program.

01:34:17.140 Stu had, Stu, I think had the day from hell.

01:34:20.260 Welcome to the program.

01:34:20.860 Pat Gray.

01:34:22.420 Stu had, you know, his, his, his precious Eagles lost.

01:34:26.600 They did.

01:34:27.180 And then the box.

01:34:28.440 Yes.

01:34:28.920 Yeah.

01:34:29.100 And then he decides to fly to Los Angeles a little later so he can watch the Eagles.

01:34:35.220 That was part of the reason.

01:34:36.280 Yes.

01:34:36.600 That was 100% of the reason.

01:34:37.980 Your kids could be dying.

01:34:39.320 100% is part.

01:34:40.800 I mean, that's definitely, it's a whole part, but it is part.

01:34:44.080 So anyway, so you had a great, great flight.

01:34:48.000 Oh yeah.

01:34:48.220 Great experience.

01:34:48.800 Got on the flight.

01:34:49.500 I think it was a seven o'clock takeoff.

01:34:51.320 Yeah.

01:34:51.980 And, and about, about 730, they gave us our first update, which was they loaded the cargo

01:34:58.800 onto the plane incorrectly.

01:35:02.520 Okay.

01:35:02.880 So it's going to fly crooked.

01:35:04.000 So it's going to, I guess it's going to fly crooked.

01:35:05.500 We need all the fat people to get onto the right side of the plane.

01:35:08.480 Is that something?

01:35:09.000 I've never heard of that before.

01:35:10.660 Is that?

01:35:10.780 You know, I don't think I ever have either.

01:35:12.360 It's a, it's a balanced thing.

01:35:13.560 The plane has to be balanced.

01:35:14.960 But with a, with a, you know, plane that big though, I mean, I've, I've never run into

01:35:19.240 that problem on a, on a commercial flight before.

01:35:21.360 And then about a half an hour later.

01:35:22.560 Because they usually do it right.

01:35:23.720 Right.

01:35:24.240 Yeah.

01:35:24.640 So a half hour later they said, well, we're still working on it and we don't have an update.

01:35:28.800 And another half hour or so goes by, same thing, another update.

01:35:32.800 As soon as we get this done, then it was, they, they had to, um, they ran out of fuel.

01:35:37.920 So they were running low, too low on fuel.

01:35:39.740 So they had to refill the fuel.

01:35:40.880 So the fuel truck came back and filled it back up to, to full.

01:35:44.220 Then they gave an update of, okay, some good news.

01:35:47.920 We're not going to have to leave this, this plane.

01:35:50.180 So we're at about two, two, two and a half hours at this point, sitting on the tarmac.

01:35:54.140 And they say, look, the good news is we're not going to have to actually change planes.

01:35:57.000 We're going to get this one off the ground.

01:35:58.280 About 45 minutes after that, they came up with another update, which was, we are now going

01:36:02.360 to get off the plane because we don't have, we can't stay on this plane, but we're going

01:36:06.360 to try to get another plane.

01:36:08.200 And then it was, it went back into the airport.

01:36:10.500 After two hours, you're going to try to get another plane.

01:36:13.320 Okay.

01:36:13.660 Yeah.

01:36:13.800 We're over, we're over three now.

01:36:15.640 Did you say in the airport?

01:36:17.000 No, no.

01:36:17.940 Try not.

01:36:19.020 Do or do not.

01:36:20.600 There is no try.

01:36:22.200 Yes.

01:36:22.600 I almost went full Yoda on them, but I decided not to.

01:36:26.140 Don't do it.

01:36:26.820 It gets on.

01:36:27.720 Don't go full Yoda.

01:36:29.360 But by the, by the, we went back in about three and a half hours, we finally got back

01:36:34.100 on the flight and took off here.

01:36:35.300 So I'm on a good, solid two hours and 15 minutes or so of sleep.

01:36:39.660 You're doing good.

01:36:40.160 Thank you.

01:36:40.520 You're doing, you're doing really well.

01:36:41.480 I feel almost coherent.

01:36:42.500 By the time the news and why it matters is on, you're going to be great.

01:36:45.680 Great.

01:36:46.160 You're going to be great.

01:36:47.240 Uh, so, uh, this is, this is a second flight I have taken in a row, uh, where they've pulled

01:36:56.020 the plane back and then said, uh, yeah, we just have a mechanical problem, uh, with the

01:37:01.320 plane.

01:37:01.700 I'm like, geez.

01:37:02.940 Okay.

01:37:03.280 We, we should probably check the plane before we come back from the gate on mechanical problems.

01:37:11.380 Is it just me?

01:37:12.780 So you're sitting there and yesterday in Dallas, we were delayed as well.

01:37:17.240 Uh, because we had that mechanical problem, which they never really identify and was

01:37:22.380 a little hairy because when we took off, it sounded like the landing gear came off the

01:37:26.860 plane.

01:37:27.920 Uh, but as we're sitting there and I'm fortunate enough to, you know, sit in, in first class

01:37:34.780 and I'm there and I, I, well, all I was thinking, cause I was reading, you know, some book on

01:37:39.820 communism, believe it or not.

01:37:40.960 And I'm reading, I'm reading that and I'm looking and I'm like, look at this, look at this

01:37:46.040 system of injustice.

01:37:47.460 They put the people in the front first.

01:37:50.000 They get to sit down, they're having drinks and then they march everybody down the aisle

01:37:55.060 that they can look and go, you're not getting any of this.

01:37:58.720 Then I thought serious.

01:38:01.000 And this is a serious thought.

01:38:03.140 Why do we have the curtain?

01:38:05.520 Seriously?

01:38:06.980 It provides no privacy.

01:38:08.840 It's not like we're, it's not like we close the curtain and then we're all having a party

01:38:13.180 or something.

01:38:13.980 Ah, now we're really going to party.

01:38:15.800 Why do you have the curtain?

01:38:17.180 The first class curtain.

01:38:18.200 I think it's to add that certain little element of eliteness.

01:38:21.280 Yeah.

01:38:21.400 You guys aren't with us and we're not even going to let you look at us.

01:38:24.800 Right.

01:38:25.220 They slam that curtain shut.

01:38:27.260 I don't.

01:38:27.740 Right.

01:38:28.020 Okay.

01:38:28.380 Okay.

01:38:28.680 I think you're right.

01:38:29.940 I think it is that little, that little air of mystery.

01:38:33.460 We're not going to.

01:38:33.940 So then my thinking again on the tarmac waiting, there wasn't a mechanical problem.

01:38:39.540 I would have been thinking of these things.

01:38:41.720 If that's why we do it, why don't we have a curtain that goes up the aisle so I don't have

01:38:48.820 to look at them and they don't have to look at me.

01:38:52.400 So we're in these, you're just walking by first class.

01:38:55.800 All you see is the carpet in the aisle.

01:38:57.620 There's curtains on both sides.

01:39:00.060 You want to be enclosed?

01:39:01.600 No, I don't.

01:39:02.480 But I mean, if you're going to go for it, if it's like, we don't want you to see any of

01:39:06.200 this special stuff, why don't they just go all the way and curtain everybody off?

01:39:10.700 And why aren't the curtains gold?

01:39:12.540 That's another.

01:39:13.460 Exactly.

01:39:13.740 I always thought that was more bathroom guarding because the peons, us peons back in coach

01:39:21.040 may have to, well, when we walk up, we might be tempted by that front of the plane bathroom,

01:39:26.540 but no, no, we walk to the back because we can't disturb the people in the front because

01:39:31.180 we can't walk through the curtain.

01:39:32.380 It's in, it's, you cannot penetrate it.

01:39:34.820 It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a force field.

01:39:37.340 It's really.

01:39:38.080 Against bathroom use.

01:39:38.840 It's really weird.

01:39:39.740 The lady said to me, the stewardess, she said, I said, I'm not really hungry.

01:39:44.160 I don't want anything.

01:39:45.080 And she said, she, she honestly said this like it was distasteful.

01:39:52.100 She said, would you rather have something from the back?

01:39:57.680 I'm like, all I could think of was like, you know, the bathroom and the, what it's in

01:40:01.440 the back.

01:40:01.940 I didn't realize she was talking about, you know, those people.

01:40:04.960 She said, I was like, would you rather have something from the back?

01:40:08.840 I'm like, what is in the back?

01:40:10.840 And she said, you know, cheese and crackers and, you know, little sandwich wraps and boxes.

01:40:17.560 And I'm like, no, I, no, I'm really not hungry.

01:40:21.400 But that didn't sound appetizing at all.

01:40:24.780 Is it possible they just couldn't believe you weren't hungry?

01:40:27.860 Like she was just shocked that you would, like it's a Jeffy thing.

01:40:32.920 Like, come on.

01:40:33.980 I wish you were still sitting on the tarmac.

01:40:35.440 We all know you're starving.

01:40:36.560 I wish you were still sitting on the tarmac right now.

01:40:40.300 Just another 30 minutes and they're going to have this thing fixed.

01:40:43.260 Just another 30 minutes.

01:40:45.820 So, Pat, a couple of stories that came out this weekend.

01:40:50.980 One, where is the university where they were serving ice cream?

01:40:57.160 I don't know where it was.

01:40:58.160 The defeated University of Wisconsin.

01:41:00.940 The defeated by BYU, that university.

01:41:06.420 Is it really that one or you just wanted to bring up the BYU game?

01:41:09.420 No, it's Wisconsin at Madison.

01:41:10.960 Okay.

01:41:11.420 Yeah.

01:41:11.800 They're the ones who want diversity in their ice cream.

01:41:16.800 Right.

01:41:17.760 Because it had beef gelatin in it?

01:41:20.600 Some of the flavors had beef gelatin.

01:41:23.080 Yeah.

01:41:23.400 Right.

01:41:23.760 Which is good.

01:41:24.980 We're using all parts of the animal.

01:41:27.620 That's good.

01:41:27.920 I'm not going to say that.

01:41:28.600 That's gross to me.

01:41:30.660 What do you think Jell-O is made of?

01:41:32.640 What do you think Jell-O is?

01:41:33.460 Jell-O is an ice cream.

01:41:35.400 Ice cream is different.

01:41:36.760 No, they're talking about the gelatin that goes in to help it firm up.

01:41:42.120 Yeah, it's weird.

01:41:43.740 I mean, the whole jelly.

01:41:45.340 I mean, we talked about this before, Pat, back in the Pat's two days.

01:41:47.600 It's weird to make a dessert out of boiled cow tendons.

01:41:53.280 It's not a normal dessert target.

01:41:56.180 No.

01:41:56.620 I mean, I know it is weird.

01:41:58.640 But if it doesn't go to the human, you know, the necessity, the necessity, we need that to sit.

01:42:05.860 We don't want that to be liquid.

01:42:08.340 Can you make that into like a jiggling mass?

01:42:11.920 Well, give me some cow parts.

01:42:13.700 I'll come up with something.

01:42:15.100 You got to look at that as a good thing.

01:42:18.000 Right?

01:42:18.560 I don't.

01:42:19.580 I don't.

01:42:21.280 That's ingenuity at its best.

01:42:23.340 That only could happen here in America.

01:42:25.480 Even though it didn't.

01:42:26.380 But it.

01:42:28.100 Well, France.

01:42:29.260 How desperate for outrage do you have to be, though, to say that that, what we're talking about,

01:42:34.140 that meat gelatin that goes into ice cream, marginalizes Muslims and vegans?

01:42:40.100 Come on.

01:42:41.240 Just don't eat the ice cream.

01:42:42.740 Don't eat it.

01:42:43.540 Go somewhere else for your ice cream.

01:42:46.440 It's asinine.

01:42:48.100 And they do have flavors that are.

01:42:50.040 That don't have it.

01:42:50.400 That don't have it in there.

01:42:51.360 So there's ice cream options.

01:42:52.840 You just don't get all the options.

01:42:54.520 Right.

01:42:54.800 And that's that's discrimination.

01:42:56.460 Because if I want strawberry and I can't get strawberry, Stu and I were talking about this, Pat, my grandfather used to look at us kids.

01:43:07.460 He grew up in the Depression.

01:43:08.480 And we would after dinner on Saturdays because you didn't get dessert every night on Saturdays.

01:43:16.220 We would get dessert.

01:43:17.480 And my grandfather would be watching the stupid Lawrence Welk show.

01:43:20.840 And, you know, we were just like, dear God, can somebody shoot me now?

01:43:24.840 And my grandfather would get up and he'd say, kids, I've got ice cream.

01:43:31.080 And invariably, one of us would say, what kind?

01:43:34.800 And he would say he just looked at us like we were mad.

01:43:38.760 And he said, the kind you eat, meaning ice cream is a privilege.

01:43:46.780 Ice cream's a privilege.

01:43:48.260 You want something sweet and something cool?

01:43:52.280 I have it.

01:43:55.100 I mean, we are living in such a sheltered, upside down world that if you can't get strawberry ice cream.

01:44:05.180 And other people can, I'm being triggered.

01:44:10.000 Then you need a safe space.

01:44:11.240 You need a safe space to go to and pout and cry and whine.

01:44:16.020 We used to call those institutions.

01:44:19.700 You know, that's when you're throwing a tantrum, you need a safe space because you can't have strawberry ice cream,

01:44:27.640 but you can have some of the other flavors.

01:44:29.820 That's when we would institutionalize you.

01:44:32.460 I'm just thinking, maybe.

01:44:35.180 On the other hand, when you think about how great this country is,

01:44:40.280 that we have solved so many problems that we're down to the meat, gelatin, and ice cream to worry about.

01:44:48.120 I mean, that says something about your country, doesn't it?

01:44:50.880 If that's what you have left to be outraged over, pretty amazing.

01:44:55.800 Well, it's not just that, Pat.

01:44:56.900 You're totally ignoring the big story of the day,

01:44:59.000 which is a guy in the background of a weather report flashed the white supremacy signal that we all know and have known forever that is a white supremacy signal.

01:45:10.300 It's the one that's on the top of the buildings with a big spotlight, and it looks like a bat in the sky?

01:45:15.000 No, no.

01:45:15.280 Oh, that's the bat signal.

01:45:17.380 That's the bat signal.

01:45:18.400 This used to be called the OK symbol.

01:45:22.500 With your fingers like OK.

01:45:24.280 Yeah, right.

01:45:25.000 And now we know if you see anyone do that in any context, what they're saying is they want white supremacy.

01:45:31.160 And when did that begin?

01:45:32.860 Because I've never heard of it until two weeks ago.

01:45:35.060 Oh, don't pretend.

01:45:35.380 OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.

01:45:38.960 By the way, what do I say to a white supremacist who's denying it?

01:45:42.660 OK.

01:45:43.840 Proof evidence, number one.

01:45:45.500 Second is make the OK symbol right now.

01:45:48.700 OK.

01:45:49.060 I don't want to do it on camera, but I'll do it below here.

01:45:51.140 All right.

01:45:51.320 You got it?

01:45:51.780 Yes.

01:45:52.120 Yep.

01:45:52.440 All right.

01:45:53.940 What letter are your three fingers forming?

01:45:58.240 W.

01:45:58.640 A W.

01:46:00.540 A W for white.

01:46:03.780 OK.

01:46:04.100 And then what's the other one forming?

01:46:06.660 Oh, or a zero, meaning all of our races are meaningless.

01:46:12.040 Is that no, I'm making that up.

01:46:14.000 I'm hoping to spread that because then we can say, you know, yeah, we we just made that up.

01:46:21.060 And we'll see that in reporting in about two weeks on NBC.

01:46:26.120 No, this is true.

01:46:26.740 Listen, this is from The Washington Post.

01:46:28.240 The idea that the hand sign is a secret symbol for white power owes its mainstream spread to a

01:46:33.860 viral troll campaign aimed at making liberals in the media look gullible.

01:46:39.380 Wow.

01:46:39.820 In February 2017, 4chan's board discussed ongoing tactics to try to get their idea to go viral.

01:46:47.020 To any who haven't seen the original thread, our goal is to convince people on Twitter that the OK hand sign has been co-opted by neo-Nazis.

01:46:53.200 It is not a thing.

01:46:55.340 Even the media knows it's not a thing.

01:46:57.760 And still, NBC News ran a story about some guy in the background of a weather report giving a the white supremacy signal on camera.

01:47:09.420 Now, I don't know.

01:47:10.340 The Coast Guard seems to say that they've removed him from this effort.

01:47:14.980 And I don't know if they actually caught him and they really think he he was doing this.

01:47:19.320 I mean, it looks like to me he's just like scratching his head.

01:47:21.600 But everybody got to be outraged about something.

01:47:23.380 And I guess that's the new thing.

01:47:24.260 The OK symbol is now the new thing.

01:47:25.860 And I'm outraged that the there was there an investigation.

01:47:31.040 Did our Coast Guard just take this guy?

01:47:33.860 We don't know his name even.

01:47:35.400 Where is he?

01:47:36.160 Has he disappeared?

01:47:37.220 Is he in a penalty box?

01:47:38.680 What the hell happened?

01:47:39.760 Was there an investigation?

01:47:41.440 I'd like to know.

01:47:42.520 You can't just have the Coast Guard come out and go, yep, well, that's why we put him away.

01:47:48.140 And he's not.

01:47:49.020 Wait, hold it just a second.

01:47:51.180 Maybe we should slow down on this.

01:47:53.980 Especially when we know it's a hoax.

01:47:55.980 Like it was.

01:47:56.880 It's literally not.

01:47:58.420 Yeah, but he didn't know it was a hoax.

01:48:00.180 Yeah, right.

01:48:00.620 I guess that's what you have to argue.

01:48:02.000 Right.

01:48:02.400 You have to.

01:48:03.020 Unbelievable.

01:48:03.440 We'll have more outrage on Pat Gray Unleashed today, by the way, following this broadcast on the Blaze Radio and TV networks.

01:48:08.200 And Addicted Outrage comes out tomorrow.

01:48:10.720 Order today.

01:48:11.420 Have it tomorrow.

01:48:13.260 And begin reading.

01:48:14.480 I'd love to get the reviews.

01:48:16.640 And I know what the one star reviews are going to say, because they'll be out tomorrow morning.

01:48:19.980 Tomorrow morning.

01:48:21.200 Anyway, the U.S. government charged a North Korean man for the 2014 cyber assault on Sony.

01:48:28.040 North Korean.

01:48:29.260 The hacker was part of a team of hackers called the Lazarus Group, who repeatedly tried to breach U.S. businesses with ransomware.

01:48:39.000 Cyber attacks.

01:48:39.860 Sony was tricked into malicious links because they were sent via Facebook and Twitter.

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01:49:36.140 These charges against Brett Kavanaugh, they're so ridiculous.

01:49:43.360 I want you to hear the latest on what this woman who accused Brett Kavanaugh of trying to rape her in high school.

01:49:49.780 Listen to this now.

01:49:51.000 She says she can't recall the date, which, you know, again, this long in the future, maybe we'll look at the exact date.

01:49:56.080 But she also can't remember when exactly it was.

01:49:58.720 For example, she's saying it's around the end of her sophomore year, she believes.

01:50:03.680 Could have been her junior year.

01:50:05.200 Could have been her freshman year, right?

01:50:07.180 She doesn't remember, also, the location where it occurred, who owned the house where it occurred, or how she got to the house where it occurred.

01:50:16.040 She also didn't tell anyone until 2012, so she waited 30 years to tell one soul, and that was her therapist.

01:50:24.560 She said she was attacked by people who were from an elitist boy school who went on to become highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.

01:50:32.240 However, she also said that there were four boys who attacked her, double the amount she's now saying attacked her.

01:50:39.700 And she says that was the therapist screwing it up, because you know how similar the words four and two sound?

01:50:45.500 At the time, it's her screwing that up.

01:50:47.620 Yeah.

01:50:47.960 I mean, it's so ridiculous.

01:50:49.220 She doesn't know.

01:50:49.700 Right.

01:50:49.960 Because if he were to say, I was on vacation for this month, she would say it was another month.

01:50:55.080 Glenn.

01:50:55.940 Back.

01:50:56.280 Mercury.

01:50:57.320 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - September 17, 2018

'Justice Must Be Blind'？ with Jonathan Haidt- 9⧸17⧸18

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