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00:00:08.740 So, it's a feeding frenzy as the left just starts to eat each other.

00:00:15.620 And I'd like to wallow in that for a minute. I would just like to marinate in that.

00:00:22.140 Because there is a revolution happening in the Democratic Party.

00:00:27.940 And it's clear. Now, are the Democrats going to wake up to it?

00:00:34.400 You know, I don't know if anybody else has a problem with reparations hearings, you know, on Capitol Hill.

00:00:42.280 I mean, if I were prioritizing the things that would help America and fix America, reparations would not even be on the list.

00:00:49.860 It would be lower than climate change.

00:00:53.020 I understand. We begin there in one minute.

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00:03:53.820 You know, it's amazing to me.

00:03:58.360 Chuck Todd is going after AOC and you have to give him credit.

00:04:03.940 I mean, when somebody does something brave, no matter if you agree or disagree with them,

00:04:08.620 you should come out and say, hey, Chuck Todd don't normally agree with you,

00:04:14.700 but you're being brave and that is good.

00:04:17.180 Here's what Chuck Todd said about AOC calling these holding facilities

00:04:23.160 concentration camps on our border.

00:04:26.100 Listen.

00:04:26.260 If you want to criticize the shameful treatment of people at our southern border, fine.

00:04:30.840 You'll have plenty of company, but be careful comparing them to Nazi concentration camps

00:04:35.960 because they're not at all comparable in the slightest.

00:04:40.140 But here's where it's upsetting as her comment.

00:04:43.260 Some Democrats have been reluctant to condemn her remarks.

00:04:45.580 They don't want to get criticized on Twitter.

00:04:47.360 Fellow New York Congressman Jerry Nadler tweeted in response,

00:04:49.540 One of the lessons from the Holocaust is never again.

00:04:52.000 We fail to learn that lesson when we don't call out such inhumanity right in front of us.

00:04:56.900 Jerry Nadler surely knows migrant detainment camps are not the same as concentration camps.

00:05:01.440 So why didn't he just say that?

00:05:03.160 Why are we so sheepish calling out people we agree with politically these days?

00:05:07.080 Obviously, this isn't a Democratic Party thing.

00:05:09.100 It's an even bigger problem on the Republican side of the aisle when it comes to President Trump and the reluctance there.

00:05:15.380 Are we really so ensconced in our political bubbles, liberal versus conservative, that we cannot talk about right versus wrong anymore?

00:05:23.360 Some things are bigger than partisanship, or at least they used to be.

00:05:26.420 That is amazing to hear from him.

00:05:31.940 Now, I disagree that the problem is even bigger.

00:05:36.060 I mean, you have people now saying, I want to dismantle the free market system.

00:05:43.740 You know, maybe you all agree on that.

00:05:46.840 Maybe that's what it is.

00:05:48.720 But I would think that would be something that would be pretty big, you know.

00:05:52.580 But maybe it's just me.

00:05:53.900 But congratulations to Chuck Todd.

00:05:55.880 Now, Nancy Pelosi, not so brave.

00:05:59.440 Here's Nancy Pelosi.

00:06:01.680 These members of Congress are, they come and represent their district and their point of view.

00:06:07.460 And they take responsibility for the statements that they make.

00:06:12.080 I'm not up to date on her most recent one.

00:06:14.280 I saw something in the news, but I, no, I haven't spoken to her about that.

00:06:18.480 I do have some comments to make to my caucus, writ large, about the political nature of how politically charged the atmosphere is.

00:06:28.980 So understand that while the Republicans have no interest in holding the president accountable for his words, they will misrepresent anything that you say.

00:06:38.620 Just if you have one word in the sentence that they can exploit.

00:06:42.800 Oh, my gosh.

00:06:45.900 Oh, my gosh.

00:06:47.560 Oh, OK.

00:06:48.840 So let's let's let's let's just see.

00:06:51.920 Let's just see.

00:06:52.620 Let's go to Don Lemon.

00:06:53.900 The audio Don Lemon on airing Trump speeches.

00:06:57.920 Now, let's just see.

00:06:58.640 This is politically charged and we'll take everything out of context.

00:07:01.500 So you've got to calm down because you don't want things taken out of context.

00:07:06.480 Go ahead.

00:07:07.240 Think about the despicable people we've had in history.

00:07:09.640 OK, now I'm going to use an extreme example.

00:07:11.880 Think about Hitler.

00:07:13.420 Think about any of those people.

00:07:15.020 Would you say that that person is allowed or let's put it this way.

00:07:19.880 If you could look back on in history, would you say, well, I'm so glad that that person was allowed a platform so that they could spread their hate and propaganda and lies?

00:07:31.020 Or would you say that probably wasn't the right thing to do to spread that?

00:07:34.620 Because you knew in the moment that that was a bad person and they were doing bad things.

00:07:39.820 Not only were they hurting people, they were killing people.

00:07:42.660 And so I just think that I think that the example matters.

00:07:45.460 And that's a very extreme example.

00:07:48.460 Rhetoric that you don't like.

00:07:49.880 Rhetoric and laws.

00:07:50.040 Could it be a slippery slope towards violence?

00:07:52.140 And policy.

00:07:52.880 Maybe, maybe not.

00:07:53.580 Detrimental to people.

00:07:54.200 And it also it also.

00:07:55.420 This is unbelievable.

00:07:56.180 So now he's comparing Donald Trump to Hitler.

00:08:00.160 Literally Hitler.

00:08:01.240 Would we give Hitler a platform?

00:08:03.060 Why are we giving this guy a platform?

00:08:05.420 First of all, the German people were not all that sold that this was a bad guy.

00:08:11.500 Okay.

00:08:11.860 And yes, I'm actually happy that the New York Times and Time Magazine and others gave him a platform so we knew his words.

00:08:23.960 The problem I have was the journalist we sent over, just like the journalist from the New York Times that was sent over to Stalin, said that he was a wonderful guy.

00:08:34.100 So, yeah, you probably shouldn't have given him the New York Times and Time Magazine, you know, saying how great he is.

00:08:42.780 That's probably a bad mistake.

00:08:45.620 But letting someone be heard.

00:08:50.980 Yeah, I think that's what our First Amendment is all about.

00:08:54.880 And I think the only way we stop people like Hitler is by knowing what he's saying.

00:09:00.400 If we wouldn't have read Mein Kampf, it would have been a little harder to spot him.

00:09:07.700 Oh, no, wait a minute.

00:09:08.460 Wait a minute.

00:09:08.780 What is he saying again?

00:09:10.480 Should we have published that book?

00:09:12.100 Yes.

00:09:12.840 I want to know what people are thinking.

00:09:15.480 I want to know the other side.

00:09:19.040 I want it.

00:09:20.280 It does no good burying our heads in the sand when it comes to evil.

00:09:26.560 You need to know about it.

00:09:28.500 But so now he's called him now he's called him a Hitler.

00:09:35.760 Now he's called Trump Hitler.

00:09:37.980 OK, we got it.

00:09:40.080 We are getting closer to the time.

00:09:42.980 Remember, I said this is 15 years ago.

00:09:45.920 We're a long way away from a civil war.

00:09:48.700 You'll know when we're closer to a civil war, when they just start beating each other in the Senate.

00:09:54.060 OK, that's what happened before the last civil war.

00:09:57.000 They just started going after each other in the Senate.

00:10:00.600 Well, we're starting to go there.

00:10:02.600 I don't know if we have.

00:10:03.780 Do we have the audio from The View yesterday?

00:10:07.100 From Meghan McCain.

00:10:09.520 OK, play this.

00:10:11.280 This is an argument between Joy Behar, Meghan McCain and Whoopi Goldberg.

00:10:17.580 Listen to this.

00:10:18.160 I explained because one of my producers this morning was saying, why do people love him so much?

00:10:22.140 And I was like, sometimes it's not just that they love Trump so much.

00:10:24.580 It's that they hate the same things Trump hates.

00:10:27.480 That's what's going on.

00:10:28.460 Who, black people, you mean?

00:10:29.580 No, I mean.

00:10:30.980 Who do they hate?

00:10:31.880 Who do they hate?

00:10:32.280 You know what, Joy?

00:10:33.260 I really come here every day open-minded just trying to explain it.

00:10:37.440 And it's not a fun job for me every day.

00:10:39.240 But who do they hate?

00:10:40.000 I know you're angry.

00:10:41.300 I get that you're angry that Trump's president, like a lot of people are.

00:10:44.380 I'm angry about every single thing he's doing.

00:10:46.380 But I don't think yelling at me is going to fix the problem, OK?

00:10:49.760 Am I yelling at her?

00:10:50.300 I just said that it was hard for me to watch.

00:10:52.440 Am I yelling at her?

00:10:53.060 Yes.

00:10:53.900 I just said it was hard for me to watch Lindsey Graham, who I considered an uncle for a long time, OK?

00:10:59.380 But then you're talking about the Trump supporters.

00:11:01.480 But I'm trying to explain why 2020 is not in the bag for you.

00:11:04.840 It's not.

00:11:05.580 Here's the question.

00:11:06.280 OK, guys.

00:11:07.220 OK.

00:11:08.140 OK.

00:11:09.540 OK.

00:11:10.960 It's a it's a great discussion and we can go back to it.

00:11:17.600 I just need everybody to take a beat.

00:11:21.340 It's just a sacrificial Republican every day.

00:11:24.400 Well, I'm just trying to.

00:11:25.900 Here's the thing.

00:11:26.480 Don't feel bad for me.

00:11:27.540 I hate to do this.

00:11:29.420 OK.

00:11:30.140 Don't feel bad for me.

00:11:31.780 Before he headed to Florida.

00:11:33.640 Hold on.

00:11:34.560 Stop.

00:11:35.380 Stop.

00:11:36.440 You hear that?

00:11:37.200 Don't feel bad for me, bitch.

00:11:42.720 To Whoopi Goldberg trying to calm things down.

00:11:45.200 And I completely side with Meghan McCain.

00:11:50.320 Meghan McCain takes a beating every single day.

00:11:55.060 You don't win in that position.

00:11:57.440 You are the you are the token conservative and they beat you every single day.

00:12:04.760 But when they can't hide it anymore.

00:12:12.300 Now, this is also yesterday.

00:12:15.060 Can we play?

00:12:16.280 Did we get the audio by any chance yet of the subcommittee hearing on the Constitution and civil rights and civil liberties?

00:12:25.960 Yesterday, they had H.R. 40 that they were debating, and it was the path to restorative justice, which is a reparations bill.

00:12:36.880 Now, I can think of a lot of things that would be helpful to fix the country.

00:12:41.320 Reparations is not on the list.

00:12:44.300 But I want to play some of the audio of of what happened in this.

00:12:48.700 We the temperature is being turned up.

00:12:54.000 And and yeah, Chuck Todd is right.

00:12:57.640 And yes, Nancy Pelosi is right.

00:13:00.940 We should watch our words.

00:13:02.480 We should watch our words.

00:13:04.160 We should watch what we're doing to stir things up.

00:13:07.580 I'm giving you a warning here as a nation.

00:13:14.720 Look how far we have advanced.

00:13:18.400 These things would not have happened a year ago.

00:13:22.140 They certainly wouldn't have happened four years ago.

00:13:25.720 Look what's look what's happening to us.

00:13:28.080 Look where we are as a people.

00:13:32.060 I'll give you that audio.

00:13:33.340 Pretty remarkable audio because they turn on their own again.

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00:16:01.640 I want to play just a little bit of this audio of somebody standing up who is testifying, who is a Democrat, who says, reparations, this is crazy.

00:16:22.500 What are we doing?

00:16:23.580 Now, listen to his case.

00:16:25.340 This is Coleman Hughes.

00:16:30.620 He is a writer for Quillette, which is fantastic.

00:16:35.060 He came out and said this.

00:16:37.340 Listen.

00:16:37.960 Nothing I'm about to say is meant to minimize the horror and brutality of slavery and Jim Crow.

00:16:44.580 Racism is a bloody stain on this country's history, and I consider our failure to pay reparations directly to freed slaves after the Civil War to be one of the greatest injustices ever perpetrated by the U.S. government.

00:16:59.220 But I worry that our desire to fix the past compromises our ability to fix the present.

00:17:07.020 Think about what we're doing today.

00:17:09.280 We're spending our time debating a bill that mentions slavery 25 times, but incarceration only once, in an era with no black slaves, but nearly a million black prisoners.

00:17:21.940 A bill that doesn't mention homicide once, at a time when the Center for Disease Control reports homicide as the number one cause of death for young black men.

00:17:33.120 I'm not saying that acknowledging history doesn't matter.

00:17:36.420 It does.

00:17:37.780 I'm saying there's a difference between acknowledging history and allowing history to distract us from the problems we face today.

00:17:45.980 In 2008, the House of Representatives formally apologized for slavery and Jim Crow.

00:17:51.040 In 2009, the Senate did the same.

00:17:55.180 Black people don't need another apology.

00:17:58.360 We need safer neighborhoods and better schools.

00:18:02.100 We need a less punitive criminal justice system.

00:18:05.600 We need affordable health care.

00:18:07.940 And none of these things can be achieved through reparations for slavery.

00:18:14.980 Nearly everyone close to me told me not to testify today.

00:18:20.400 They told me that even though I've only ever voted for Democrats, I'd be perceived as a Republican and therefore hated by half the country.

00:18:28.420 Others told me that by distancing myself from Republicans, I would end up angering the other half of the country.

00:18:35.160 And the sad truth is that they were both right.

00:18:38.480 That's how suspicious we've become of one another.

00:18:41.980 That's how divided we are as a nation.

00:18:44.940 If we were to pay reparations today, we would only divide the country further, making it harder to build the political coalitions required to solve the problems facing black people today.

00:18:57.960 We would insult many black Americans by putting a price on the suffering of their ancestors.

00:19:04.420 And we would turn the relationship between black Americans and white Americans from a coalition into a transaction, from a union between citizens into a lawsuit between plaintiffs and defendants.

00:19:17.660 What we should do is pay reparations to black Americans who actually grew up under Jim Crow and were directly harmed by second-class citizenship, people like my grandparents.

00:19:30.700 But paying reparations to all descendants of slaves is a mistake.

00:19:35.180 Take me, for example.

00:19:36.320 I was born three decades after the end of Jim Crow into a privileged household in the suburbs.

00:19:44.040 I attend an Ivy League school.

00:19:46.700 Yet I'm also descended from slaves who worked on Thomas Jefferson's Monticello plantation.

00:19:52.240 So reparations for slavery would allocate federal resources to me, but not to an American with the wrong ancestry,

00:19:59.820 even if that person is living paycheck to paycheck and working multiple jobs to support a family.

00:20:07.080 You might call that justice.

00:20:08.800 I call it justice for the dead at the price of justice for the living.

00:20:14.880 I understand that reparations are about what people are owed, regardless of how well they're doing.

00:20:20.780 I understand that.

00:20:22.220 But the people who are owed for slavery are no longer here.

00:20:25.920 And we're not entitled to collect on their debts.

00:20:31.840 Reparations, by definition, are only given to victims.

00:20:36.220 So the moment you give me reparations, you've made me into a victim without my consent.

00:20:42.400 Not just that.

00:20:44.160 You've made one-third of black Americans who poll against reparations into victims without their consent.

00:20:51.780 And black Americans have fought for too long.

00:20:53.800 This guy is so solid.

00:20:57.400 Don't agree with him necessarily on everything he says, but so rock solid.

00:21:02.860 So rock solid.

00:21:03.780 Since when does the sin of the father get passed to the son?

00:21:12.960 It's immoral.

00:21:14.680 It's wrong.

00:21:15.940 And he's right.

00:21:17.220 It will divide us even more.

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00:23:53.660 This is just another reason why social justice warriors are so out of step with the way Americans think.

00:24:03.520 They just don't think like what's in our DNA.

00:24:10.360 What's in our DNA is not reparations.

00:24:13.720 What's in our DNA is doing the right thing.

00:24:16.300 But never, never do we pass the sins of the father onto the son.

00:24:21.620 If my father racks up debt, I don't have to pay for it.

00:24:25.980 I didn't rack up that debt.

00:24:27.320 Unless I signed, then it's passed on to me.

00:24:31.440 But what my father did is what my father did.

00:24:35.120 And here is yet another example.

00:24:38.980 Moms and dads, is this the kind of country you want your children to inherit?

00:24:44.200 One to where you make a mistake and they have to pay for it?

00:24:50.160 Not me.

00:24:52.480 It's ridiculous.

00:24:53.740 I mean, so I had nothing to do with it.

00:24:56.860 I'm having an announcement.

00:24:58.200 I had nothing to do with slavery.

00:25:00.100 Zero percent.

00:25:01.360 I had nothing to do with Jim Crow laws either.

00:25:05.560 No, no.

00:25:06.180 It didn't have anything to do with it.

00:25:07.200 So, I mean, I understand why if you are a descendant, you could look back at your history and say that was a huge problem.

00:25:14.480 And we all obviously recognize it was a terrible, terrible thing, as you'll be pointing out in the museum in just a couple of weeks.

00:25:22.460 But that does not mean that I get punished for it.

00:25:24.600 I don't get punished for things that I didn't do.

00:25:26.460 That's what America is built on that.

00:25:28.900 You're supposed to be able to be responsible for your own actions, not actions for people that, by the way, not only was I not around for, but never met.

00:25:41.020 We're long dead before I was even born.

00:25:44.260 And I didn't have any, like, my descendants weren't slave owners.

00:25:48.800 Like, only, what was it, about a third of Southerners, white Southerners, were slave owners.

00:25:54.940 I mean, you know, it was an expensive thing, I would imagine, and, you know, mainly relegated to those who were well off and also believed in slavery.

00:26:03.420 But about a third, so you're talking about two-thirds of white Southerners would be being, have their descendants taxed for something they didn't even do.

00:26:11.880 Not to mention, it was a divisive issue, right?

00:26:15.040 There were a lot of people who were white and in the South who thought slavery was horrible, just like every issue today is divided.

00:26:21.640 We had people who were the founders who fought against it.

00:26:24.580 I mean, did the descendants of Benjamin Franklin, an abolitionist, do they pay reparations to someone who may or may not have been a descendant of slaves?

00:26:36.760 There's no way to manage this system.

00:26:39.560 Let me ask you this.

00:26:40.740 What would be the purpose?

00:26:42.620 And they say it's justice, but it's not.

00:26:44.460 No.

00:26:44.660 Social justice is not justice.

00:26:47.260 It doesn't exist.

00:26:49.020 So they say this is social justice.

00:26:51.940 But really, let's look at the motivation.

00:26:54.380 Let's say right now we reversed Roe versus Wade.

00:27:00.500 And a hundred years from now, you would say, well, I want everybody to pay for reparations because my great-great-grandmother was advised by Planned Parenthood that she could get an abortion.

00:27:17.560 And so I want you to pay for reparations for all of those 50 or 60 million children that have been killed since Roe versus Wade.

00:27:30.200 Now, what would be your intent there?

00:27:33.760 Really?

00:27:34.380 What would your intent be?

00:27:35.880 I would imagine that if you were doing it closer to the actual event that you could make the case, well, that was to financially cripple this organization to make sure that they were put out of business.

00:27:49.140 I contend that's the same idea here.

00:27:52.680 It's to add to an already $22 trillion debt to do something that makes absolutely no sense.

00:28:03.240 There is no justice in this.

00:28:06.540 And wait, we're going to what?

00:28:08.760 We're going to pay money that we don't have.

00:28:11.380 We will have to borrow it.

00:28:13.160 To do what?

00:28:14.480 But I contend this is to do nothing other than to cripple our government, to cripple the United States of America.

00:28:23.140 That's what this is about.

00:28:24.440 And when you really look at how they would do it, there's no constitutional way to tax only white people.

00:28:29.880 And that's good.

00:28:31.340 There shouldn't be a constitutional way to tax only one specific race.

00:28:36.020 That's not something you can even do.

00:28:38.240 It's like it's this idea that, you know, of course, there's no way to actually correctly trace the lineage of every single person to make this right.

00:28:47.120 So they won't they'll broaden it.

00:28:48.520 And what they want to do is say, OK, we're going to tax white people and give it to black people is where it kind of gets summarized to.

00:28:53.640 But even that that's blatantly unconstitutional, just like it would be unconstitutional to tax black people to give it to white people.

00:28:59.540 Because, you know what, there are plenty of times where people who were incredible racists would have argued that that was just.

00:29:06.460 So go go beyond that.

00:29:08.440 What's going to how would this actually play out?

00:29:10.800 Let's just put it in not in this idea of whether it's right or wrong.

00:29:14.240 Put it in the idea of actually designing a policy.

00:29:17.540 There's no constitutional way to do it the way it's being discussed.

00:29:20.540 What it would wind up being is an excuse to take money from people who were supposedly too rich and benefited too much off of this evil system and give it to people who are poor, who've been hurt by this system.

00:29:33.360 So what you'd wind up doing is having middle class and upper middle class black people playing higher taxes to give it to people who probably underprivileged, quote unquote, white people who wound up getting the becoming the beneficiary.

00:29:47.320 It would wind up being just a generic argument to redistribute wealth all over again.

00:29:52.740 And what a surprise that one of these topics and one of these big pushes by the left comes back to that fundamental principle once again.

00:30:01.940 It's it's health care.

00:30:04.500 Remember, we said the reason why health care is being pushed is because it's just redistribution of wealth.

00:30:11.780 That's all it is.

00:30:12.820 It doesn't it's not going to affect in a positive way.

00:30:16.820 It's not going to affect your actual health care.

00:30:20.020 In fact, it's going to make it worse, which it has.

00:30:22.860 It is only redistribution of wealth.

00:30:25.800 And we didn't just make that up.

00:30:27.980 If you remember, who was it from the Center for American Progress?

00:30:32.300 I think said that you cannot have a health care program.

00:30:37.160 I remember he was the.

00:30:39.540 He was the head of Medicare or Medicaid, wasn't he?

00:30:43.020 Yeah.

00:30:43.440 Yeah.

00:30:44.200 And he said there is no health care unless it is involving redistribution of wealth.

00:30:50.460 It must be redistributive.

00:30:51.960 Yeah.

00:30:52.600 Yeah.

00:30:53.400 Right.

00:30:54.520 And here's the thing.

00:30:57.240 This is more importantly.

00:30:59.360 Secondly, this is why it's dangerous for us as humans beyond the Republic and everything else for us as humans.

00:31:09.260 We look at history and we say it's boring.

00:31:12.720 It's old.

00:31:13.780 It's powdered wigs.

00:31:14.920 No, it's not.

00:31:16.680 History is what you did or failed to do yesterday.

00:31:20.600 That's history.

00:31:22.160 Now, you can allow that history to affect the rest of your life.

00:31:26.320 I'm an alcoholic.

00:31:27.840 I'd get up every morning and I promised myself I wouldn't drink the day before, you know, and I'd look and go.

00:31:35.680 I just promised this yesterday and I broke my own promise.

00:31:39.660 I am drinking.

00:31:41.540 Okay.

00:31:42.280 Today, today, I'm just not going to drink today.

00:31:45.760 And I broke that promise to myself for five years, every single day.

00:31:50.540 I let my history control me instead of instead of forgetting what happened yesterday and saying that does not control me or chart my course.

00:32:06.020 What it did was it told me every day, you're a loser.

00:32:09.860 You're pathetic.

00:32:11.020 You can't do it.

00:32:13.240 And I dwelled on that.

00:32:15.460 And I just went over a cliff.

00:32:20.260 And this is why when you hit rock bottom, sometimes it's suicide because you've convinced yourself you're worthless.

00:32:26.660 You're not able to do it, that the whole world is against you, whatever it is.

00:32:31.960 And you lose the idea that today is all that matters.

00:32:37.460 And I can change the whole idea of a 12 step program is to change today.

00:32:44.700 Hey, just get through this first five minutes.

00:32:48.040 Don't worry about tomorrow or yesterday.

00:32:50.780 Just get through these next five minutes.

00:32:54.220 Just get through, you know, the next hour, then the next day.

00:32:59.720 Don't think about the future.

00:33:03.340 And what's happening to us, and this is the point of the museum that we're opening up next week.

00:33:08.000 And it's going to be very controversial, especially in this atmosphere.

00:33:11.360 But it shouldn't be.

00:33:12.520 What we're doing is we're showing you the history of the slave trade, not just America.

00:33:19.860 We're showing you that 45% of all the slaves that were transported went to Brazil.

00:33:24.900 Only 4% of those slaves came here.

00:33:28.740 We're showing you that, yes, Mexico stopped slavery before we did.

00:33:34.340 Yeah, but did they really?

00:33:35.320 Because all they really did was say, okay, you can keep your slaves and you have to give them up in 100 years and no slave trade.

00:33:44.540 Well, we were the first to say no more slave trade.

00:33:48.700 We were the first in the world to say no more slave trade.

00:33:52.220 We just didn't free the slaves we had.

00:33:54.140 Well, Mexico didn't either.

00:33:55.700 Mexico didn't do it for 100 years.

00:33:58.440 And I don't hear anybody complaining there.

00:34:00.720 Why is it that they're coming after us?

00:34:03.240 Now, we could dwell on that.

00:34:05.160 But again, what does that do that just beats us again over and over every single day?

00:34:13.000 When instead, perhaps we should look at today.

00:34:17.200 There is a report out today that China has imprisoned in actual concentration camps.

00:34:27.200 Three million people.

00:34:30.700 Three million people are in these concentration camps.

00:34:34.140 And just to help Ocasio-Cortez out, here's the difference between a detainment center and a concentration camp.

00:34:43.500 In this case, you leave alive, you leave with your kidneys.

00:34:50.360 There's a new study out, the China Tribunal, that has shown now that forced organ harvesting is being committed in China on a significant scale.

00:35:02.020 There is no evidence that any of this has been dismantled.

00:35:06.900 It's been going on for a while.

00:35:08.420 And one of the reasons why they know it was going on was because, well, there's not a waiting list.

00:35:13.040 Oh, you need a new kidney?

00:35:14.120 Oh, yeah, we can get one.

00:35:15.660 We got one.

00:35:16.840 Wait a minute.

00:35:17.480 How come there's no waiting list in China for organs?

00:35:20.820 And what they're doing is they're taking these people in these concentration camps.

00:35:24.420 They're giving them thorough inspections and medical testing.

00:35:28.900 And then when somebody needs an organ, they're like, oh, we have this guy.

00:35:33.000 He's this blood type.

00:35:33.960 Good.

00:35:34.540 Take him out of cell number 23 and rip his organs out.

00:35:38.440 That's what's happening in China.

00:35:40.960 Now, we can talk about the concentration camp on our border, and it will do nothing but tear us apart.

00:35:49.360 Or we can look at this and say, hey, maybe we should look at China.

00:35:54.760 What can we do as people, as a country?

00:35:58.560 What should we be focused on today?

00:36:02.000 Because I want to really make this clear.

00:36:05.700 History is not.

00:36:08.040 History is not old, dusty documents.

00:36:12.640 You're making history right now.

00:36:15.940 Future historians will judge all of us.

00:36:22.260 They will say, what did those people do then?

00:36:26.780 We look at why didn't the United States do anything about the concentration camps in Germany?

00:36:30.800 How come the world didn't stand up?

00:36:32.860 Well, what are we doing now?

00:36:34.460 Three million people are in concentration camps in China alone.

00:36:40.440 And we're talking about our border?

00:36:41.880 That doesn't make sense.

00:36:45.780 Unless, unless you are somebody that history will not judge well, and your concept of right and wrong and justice is upside down.

00:37:00.700 So, Stu, I've got to talk about something that's, it's not racist, but I know that's what racists say right before they say something racist.

00:37:18.840 But this isn't racist, but I'm kind of caught in this conundrum, and it's a good thing I don't work for ESPN, because I have to ask for the audience help on something, and it's very racist, except not at all.

00:37:35.240 That's exactly what racists say.

00:37:36.540 You're right.

00:37:36.860 I know, so I'll do that next.

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00:39:03.100 ESPN has nothing to do with this job, right, Stu?

00:39:05.500 I mean, we're...

00:39:06.280 As far as I know, why?

00:39:07.280 Unless you're planning another merger.

00:39:09.100 Well, because I need to talk about something.

00:39:11.240 Because I'm restoring an 1880s cabin, okay?

00:39:15.880 It was one of the first pioneer cabins in this area.

00:39:19.240 We pulled it out of the woods, and it's this beautiful cabin, but it's never been redone.

00:39:27.480 And I need somebody to do chinking on it.

00:39:31.320 And I know that sounds racist, but it's not.

00:39:34.420 That's what it's actually called.

00:39:36.480 Chinking.

00:39:37.360 It's the white stuff in between the logs.

00:39:39.660 Well, I don't know why, but, like, everybody is, like, months out who does chinking up here.

00:39:48.720 And I don't know if there's a big demand for it or something.

00:39:51.160 But if I can't get it done now, I have to wait a year because it can't be done in the winter.

00:39:58.140 So, look, I'm desperate for anybody who knows how to chink.

00:40:03.240 If you know how to chink and you're in the Idaho area, please, please, I'm begging you.

00:40:08.940 Contact me.

00:40:10.000 I can't do anything.

00:40:11.480 And it'll chink, and you can't.

00:40:12.900 It's not like caulking in a bathroom.

00:40:14.820 Call me.

00:40:16.000 Just call me.

00:40:17.200 Or you can email me at me at glennbeck.com.

00:40:21.680 Call me.

00:40:22.800 Need a chinker.

00:40:24.100 Need a chinker.

00:40:24.980 And that would get me fired for ESPN, but luckily I don't work for that.

00:40:30.740 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

00:40:33.280 You know, back in the 1850s, slavery was a big problem, but no one in Congress actually wanted to do anything about it.

00:40:49.180 And that's why Charles Sumner stood up and said, you know, the South is sleeping with the horror of slavery.

00:40:56.400 This is why the Republican Party was born, because there were Democrats and Republicans that both saw that this was a problem, and they wanted to solve it.

00:41:09.420 Sorry, it wasn't Democrats and Republicans.

00:41:11.840 It was Democrats and Whigs.

00:41:13.240 And they realized that nobody is serious about solving this problem.

00:41:20.640 And that's what led us into civil war.

00:41:23.360 Well, don't we have that same problem right now?

00:41:26.420 The border is on fire.

00:41:27.740 We're going to get into that a little later on today with some amazing stats that you've never heard on how bad this is.

00:41:35.580 Nobody's paying attention to it.

00:41:36.860 Instead, Congress is talking about reparations.

00:41:39.060 Because historically, has this, have we been this close to, is this normal?

00:41:47.940 Or is this leading to some of the worst parts of our past?

00:41:53.500 We're going to talk to one of my favorite historians in one minute.

00:41:58.620 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:43:15.960 Arthur Herman, who has been one of my favorite historians for quite some time,

00:43:32.360 and I'm going back and I'm reading all of his back catalog, and it's just, it's so fantastic.

00:43:37.700 He's such a good storyteller and teaches history in a way I think it needs to be taught.

00:43:44.060 But he is, in my opinion, I don't know if anybody knows who Daniel Boorstin is, but he was one of my favorite historians.

00:43:51.940 He was the guy who was the head of the Library of Congress, and I loved his Discoverer series.

00:43:59.240 And Arthur is the same kind of guy with just a gift for bringing history to life.

00:44:08.700 Welcome to the program, Arthur.

00:44:09.920 How are you?

00:44:10.320 I'm doing well.

00:44:11.840 You know, I met Daniel Boorstin when I was a young scholar, right after my first book,

00:44:16.620 The Idea of Decline in Western History was published.

00:44:19.800 He invited me to lunch at the Cosmos Club, as a matter of fact,

00:44:24.140 and we met and talked about various kinds of matters, writing history.

00:44:29.600 In fact, the book, How the Scots Invented the Modern World,

00:44:33.260 was really kind of inspired by that conversation, because we were talking about Adam Smith.

00:44:37.720 We said, you should really do a book on Adam Smith.

00:44:40.280 And it planted a seed, which, you know, two years later, three years later, really became the seeds of that, too.

00:44:47.080 Yeah, he was an amazing man.

00:44:48.200 You know, it's funny, Arthur, that you would say that that was the book that was born out of inspiration,

00:44:53.940 because I felt this way about you with Daniel Boorstin for a while,

00:44:58.620 but I happen to be reading How the Scots Changed the World right now.

00:45:04.040 I'm going through your library, you know, your back catalog, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

00:45:09.800 And it's very, in some ways, it's very Daniel Boorstin.

00:45:12.920 It is. And, you know, Boorstin, in that lunch, explained to me how he wrote those books.

00:45:18.460 Those books have, you know, the discoverers and the others in that series,

00:45:24.100 really sprang from his reading of the philosopher Henri Bergson, the French intuitive philosopher.

00:45:31.440 And those all come out of the way in which Bergson talks about how we experience the world

00:45:37.500 through our senses, through our intuitions, and through our connections with nature.

00:45:42.260 So there's a, I don't have to go, I'm not going to walk your readers through the philosophy of Henri Bergson,

00:45:47.840 you can read about that in Cave and Light.

00:45:49.460 But there was, in other words, that wasn't just sort of book titles, like,

00:45:52.380 what am I going to write about next?

00:45:54.100 That's the kind of intellectual that Boorstin was.

00:45:57.000 Yeah, he was great. He was great.

00:45:58.920 So I wanted to get you on, and I wanted to talk, we're talking about reparations now in Congress,

00:46:05.320 seriously having this debate.

00:46:06.940 They were tearing each other apart yesterday.

00:46:08.920 People were booing, you know, blacks who were testifying and saying,

00:46:13.420 no, I think this is wrong, and I'm a Democrat.

00:46:17.000 And they were being booed.

00:46:18.640 I haven't seen this level of vitriol, and it gets worse every day.

00:46:26.300 You know, last night we had somebody on CNN, a host, compare Donald Trump to Hitler.

00:46:31.740 Why are we giving this man any platform?

00:46:35.000 Now, this is not a guest.

00:46:36.460 This is a host.

00:46:37.920 We wouldn't do that to Hitler.

00:46:39.240 Why are we doing it to him?

00:46:41.120 You have Ocasio-Cortez comparing what we have happening on our border to a Nazi concentration camp.

00:46:50.420 And people like Chuck Todd are being hammered because he said,

00:46:53.560 that's ridiculous.

00:46:54.700 Can you give me a framework of where you think we are in history?

00:47:02.000 Have we been here before?

00:47:03.920 Yeah, well, I think that, you know, this is a very strange kind of development

00:47:10.820 that you and I have talked about kind of where the country is right now.

00:47:15.020 I think that it would be good to mention that about four years ago I wrote a piece that appeared

00:47:22.400 on Fox Opinion called America's Coming Civil War.

00:47:25.980 And it was about what I felt was, and I'm going to use a term that you'll recognize, Glenn,

00:47:31.140 because it comes out of that period just before 1860, that there was an irrepressible conflict

00:47:36.340 that was coming between those for whom the growth of government and of government control

00:47:45.120 versus those for whom government control required extracting resources, including money,

00:47:54.400 but also our own cultural identities as a conflict that could be as serious as the one that broke out over slavery.

00:48:04.480 And you were just talking very correctly about how what we saw there was that the impossibility

00:48:12.280 of finding any kind of clear middle ground between those two sides.

00:48:17.820 That piece went viral.

00:48:19.820 There was a lot of criticism of, what are you talking about, America, you know, America's Civil War.

00:48:23.560 I wrote a follow-up piece after Barack Obama's inauguration because I sensed that the Obama administration

00:48:29.280 and his re-election in 2012 was really a turning point in this discussion and what was going to take place here.

00:48:37.900 So with all of this, now everybody's talking about America's coming Civil War.

00:48:42.620 Everybody is debating these kinds of questions about, are we really reaching an existential moment

00:48:50.380 in terms of American identity?

00:48:51.760 And I think what you see on the media and particularly on the social media suggests that I was right,

00:49:00.440 that the Civil War may not come in terms of actual violence.

00:49:04.980 You know, we're not going to be refighting the Battle of Gettysburg.

00:49:08.060 But I think we're moving very quickly into a space where it's going to be harder and harder to find sensible compromise,

00:49:16.700 even on fundamental kinds of issues, which in the past would have been considered, you know, beyond politics.

00:49:24.740 Well, because we're not talking about, but we're not really talking about those issues.

00:49:29.760 We're talking about reparations.

00:49:32.080 How does reparations, in all of the problems that we face,

00:49:37.240 the politicians always pick the ones that are absolutely the most divisive,

00:49:43.360 and with an exception, I think, of abortion, the least consequential at this point?

00:49:50.280 No, exactly.

00:49:51.080 And reparations is a classic example, because you know it's never going to become reality.

00:49:56.600 You know that this is simply done by the Democrats as a way to try and increase the African-American vote,

00:50:04.160 which they sense disaster looming ahead in the 2020 election.

00:50:09.320 And so the scramble is on.

00:50:11.240 You actually really believe that, that they're headed for a disaster?

00:50:17.660 I do, yeah.

00:50:19.160 Yeah, I do.

00:50:19.980 Oh, I'm glad you hear that.

00:50:21.560 And I think that the disaster is reflected both in the pathetic field of candidates that have come forward here,

00:50:28.680 but also the kinds of issues that they're reduced to addressing and putting out there

00:50:36.500 in the hopes that they'll be able to collect votes.

00:50:38.540 You know, of course, what will happen is when Trump is reelected,

00:50:42.560 there'll be all kinds of claims that the election was stolen yet again.

00:50:46.620 This is also part of the Democrat playing book now,

00:50:50.080 is that any election that doesn't return a Democrat,

00:50:55.540 and particularly a liberal Democrat, is illegitimate,

00:50:58.540 has been manipulated either by voter suppression or by collusion with foreign governments

00:51:06.740 or some other kind of underhanded means.

00:51:09.080 This, too, works to undermine people's confidence in our institutions.

00:51:13.640 On both sides of the aisle, Glenn, I mean, this is the other point, too,

00:51:17.020 is that the increase, the hyper-exaggerated rhetoric that we're getting out of the left

00:51:23.640 also convinces those on the right that there is no grounds for compromise.

00:51:28.620 People are out of control.

00:51:30.360 And that if they were somehow to gain power,

00:51:33.940 that we would be staring a proto-totalitarian state in the face.

00:51:38.480 The equivalent of, you know, Mao's cultural revolution is on the way.

00:51:41.860 And whether that's true or not, the degree to which the excessive rhetoric on the part of the left

00:51:48.060 requires an equally exaggerated response from many of the voices on the right

00:51:56.320 is all pointing us towards the idea that we're in dangerous, dangerous territory.

00:52:03.900 Arthur, I want to ask you a couple more questions.

00:52:08.240 As a historian, to be able to, and I know this is almost impossible,

00:52:15.360 to take yourself out of today and try to put yourself in the future

00:52:20.780 and look at what's happening to us right now.

00:52:25.820 And what the, you know, there's always these turning points.

00:52:32.180 There's always these road marks where, you know,

00:52:34.980 you, it's the easiest place to find is in the Bible

00:52:37.460 because they've summarized civilizations into, you know, a chapter.

00:52:43.000 And so you'll see this, this rise and fall of a civilization

00:52:47.100 and then the next rise and you're like, okay, well, they're going to get it right this time.

00:52:51.020 And then they, you know, they, they fall again.

00:52:53.800 And you're like, didn't you, all you had to do is read the last chapter.

00:52:56.480 And I want to, I want to talk to you a little bit about some of the things that you see

00:53:02.980 that are road markers, if, if you do.

00:53:07.700 And I, and I also want to talk to you a little bit about socialism

00:53:10.900 and this, this growing state of technology and the silencing of voices.

00:53:17.040 Have we been here before?

00:53:18.720 Uh, and, and what does it mean?

00:53:21.480 And what should we preserve back in a second with Arthur Herman?

00:53:24.720 He is a tremendous, tremendous author.

00:53:28.660 And I think the, the, he's, he's my favorite historian.

00:53:33.040 Uh, and I can't believe he listens to this show

00:53:35.200 because I'm a little embarrassed, uh, you know,

00:53:37.200 to have somebody, somebody as good as history

00:53:39.340 at history as he is listening to me blab on about it.

00:53:42.600 But, uh, we'll be back in just a second.

00:53:44.580 One minute.

00:53:45.120 We're back.

00:53:48.720 All right.

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00:55:14.440 So, um, we're with Arthur Herman and, and, uh, I just read a new study and I'm

00:55:30.140 going to go through this hopefully today.

00:55:32.200 Um, the overwhelming ratio of adults, uh, 12 to one say they prefer nation with

00:55:39.400 individual ownership of private property and where all the property is owned and

00:55:43.400 where none of the property is owned by the government.

00:55:46.780 That is 82 to seven, six to one ratio.

00:55:50.600 Americans want a government that takes its direction from the people rather than live

00:55:53.920 in a nation where the population takes its direction from the government.

00:55:57.160 That's a, that's a margin of 76 to 12.

00:56:01.000 Um, economically six Americans who want a country featuring the prices of goods based

00:56:06.640 on the free market for everyone who prefers the price of goods determined by the government.

00:56:11.020 That's 75 to 12.

00:56:12.400 And yet overwhelmingly people say they support socialism.

00:56:16.700 This is a problem with history.

00:56:19.640 We, nobody is educated.

00:56:21.640 Nobody is really understands history.

00:56:24.440 Nobody even knows what socialism is or capitalism.

00:56:27.360 The study found out that most people don't even know what capitalism is.

00:56:31.000 So Arthur, have we been this close to this, where people are coming out and saying who are

00:56:42.820 in power, I want to destroy the free market system.

00:56:46.420 And if they win, I think they will.

00:56:50.020 Have we been here before?

00:56:52.300 Well, I don't know if we've been in this country here before.

00:56:55.100 Uh, but if you look at, uh, the experience in Europe, uh, between the world wars, and I'm

00:57:00.880 not really so much thinking about Nazi Germany because that's such a cliche and the differences

00:57:05.900 are really profound.

00:57:07.280 I think a better model for thinking about where we are and where we could go if we're not really

00:57:13.080 careful and begin to take some, take some serious steps, uh, backwards to rethink the

00:57:21.380 way in which political debates have shaped up is France.

00:57:23.880 You know, France, like the United States, you know, emerged from World War I as a, uh,

00:57:32.020 victorious power.

00:57:33.260 It seemed that to the rest of the world that it was Europe's, uh, you know, superpower on

00:57:40.640 the continent of Europe, just as Britain was, uh, still a major superpower in a global sense.

00:57:47.020 Uh, and yet within, with the 1920s and 1930s, the French squandered everything that they had

00:57:53.660 achieved, uh, in fighting that war.

00:57:56.200 And they became so politically divided, uh, over the, between Marxism and the extreme right

00:58:02.540 and a political establishment, which was, uh, too corrupt and unable to address, uh, the

00:58:11.740 most significant issues confronting France and Europe during those years.

00:58:16.000 That when, in 1940, the German invasion came, uh, both the left and the right were so determined

00:58:23.380 to see the other side lose so they could say, I told you so.

00:58:27.620 I said that you guys were, were leading us to a disaster that they refused to unite.

00:58:31.820 And so France collapsed and their entire system of government.

00:58:36.060 Does this sound familiar at all, Glenn?

00:58:37.880 Do you like, am I talking about a situation in which bears amazing resemblance to, uh, to

00:58:43.860 where we are, uh, today in many respects?

00:58:46.540 You could, you could, you could see that happening with China.

00:58:50.300 You could see that really happening with Russia.

00:58:53.000 Uh, I mean, you know, our, we could have the, the, just the border, you could lose the country

00:59:00.980 and there would be a lot of people that would, would want to be right.

00:59:05.920 It's so bad that it would allow it to happen.

00:59:08.420 Sure.

00:59:08.940 And, you know, and, and, and the French chamber of deputies at a time in which the Nazi war

00:59:13.680 machine is gearing up when the Spanish civil war is threatening to embroil the world in

00:59:19.640 an ideological conflict.

00:59:21.820 Uh, the big debate in the chamber of deputies was how many days of vacation should French

00:59:26.820 workers get?

00:59:27.760 I mean, talk about, talk about the irrelevancy of an issue like reparations.

00:59:32.500 And, and fortunately, you know, there was a man, his name is Charles de Gaulle and he

00:59:37.980 came, he, he was able to be the man of the hour who alone with everybody else in France

00:59:43.840 had basically given up with the, the, the, the, the armistice, basically handing France's

00:59:50.840 fortunes over to, over to Hitler.

00:59:53.600 Uh, he was the one who said, no, France, France is going to continue to fight.

00:59:57.420 Even if I have to do it entirely alone, uh, I will do so.

01:00:02.040 And what he managed to do was to save what was left of France's honor in World War II and

01:00:08.760 to really take upon himself the mission of saving his country from the disgrace and the

01:00:15.620 humiliation and the collapse that had gone through in the last two decades.

01:00:19.340 And we always talk about Winston Churchill and, you know, I've written about Churchill.

01:00:22.840 I'm a great admirer of his.

01:00:24.920 De Gaulle, I think, is a figure who we might want to think about looking at more closely.

01:00:29.640 I wrote my first college paper of him in 1971 and I've always been fascinated by De Gaulle.

01:00:36.520 He got a bad press because, you know, he pulled France out of NATO and, uh, chased out American

01:00:42.800 bases in France, uh, during the 1960s, during the Cold War.

01:00:46.840 But he was a man who looked at his country, saw the state of intellectual and moral rot that

01:00:54.380 had set in and said, you know what, there's more to France than this and there's more to

01:00:59.360 my country and I have a patriotism to which I will sacrifice my career and to which I will

01:01:05.740 sacrifice all of my resources even if I have to do it alone.

01:01:09.400 And it became a symbol of strength that, you know, that really made him a revered figure,

01:01:15.220 uh, a, a, a savior and, and really pulled France out of the abyss that it was in thanks to,

01:01:22.080 thanks to the Vichy episode.

01:01:24.460 Arthur, I know I've only asked you for a half hour of your time this morning.

01:01:28.000 Would you be willing to give me another 15 minutes?

01:01:29.780 Cause I still have more things I want to talk to you about.

01:01:32.440 Can you hold over?

01:01:33.440 Glenn, I'm here.

01:01:34.140 Glenn, I'm here.

01:01:34.820 Delighted.

01:01:35.180 Okay, great.

01:01:35.620 Hang on.

01:01:35.960 Great.

01:01:37.160 Uh, more with Arthur Herman, uh, one of my favorite historians and we'll get into reparations

01:01:43.020 and, uh, a little bit more of socialism when we come back.

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01:03:21.080 If there were two things, uh, if there were two things that I could fix tomorrow that

01:03:29.760 I think would, would help the country survive, there's a lot of choices.

01:03:36.160 There's a lot of choices, but two of the easiest, uh, really, uh, is the border and the debt.

01:03:44.980 Now we got a lot of other problems.

01:03:47.400 Abortion is actually number one on my list, but I mean, if,

01:03:51.080 if we're going to be serious about saving our nation, we have to get the debt under control.

01:03:56.280 We have to get borders under control.

01:03:59.240 Nobody is talking about that.

01:04:00.480 In fact, yesterday they had a hearing that went pretty awry, um, in the house on reparations.

01:04:08.160 Now we're a society that doesn't believe in the sins of the father being paid for by the son,

01:04:15.320 but that's not even this.

01:04:17.300 This is the sins of the possible great, great, great grandfather being paid for by the great,

01:04:24.480 great grandson who, whose great, great grandfather may not have even been here at the time.

01:04:31.300 Is there any example in history of this being done before, uh, we, uh, welcome back to the program,

01:04:40.520 Arthur Herman, one of my favorite, uh, uh, authors and the author of freedom's forge,

01:04:45.720 which is a must read must read, uh, for everybody.

01:04:49.800 Arthur, I, I think one of the biggest mistakes we made as a country was, was not doing the 40 acres

01:04:57.280 and a mule.

01:04:58.060 You know, we had the land back then we could have done it.

01:05:01.060 We still have the land, uh, but we could have done it.

01:05:03.840 It probably was the right thing to do perhaps.

01:05:06.760 Um, and you know, we just broke so many promises.

01:05:10.780 However, that was 150 years ago, uh, 170 years ago.

01:05:17.500 Now, this idea of reparations and the, the great, great grandson paying for the crimes of a possible

01:05:26.020 great, great grandfather, has that ever been done before?

01:05:29.680 Well, um, yeah, it has, um, it's how the Marxist mind, and I might also add the National Socialist

01:05:40.820 mind works.

01:05:41.820 And that is, is that the world, uh, in which you live is based upon an injustice, uh, and

01:05:50.220 foisted upon you by great impersonal historical forces, which require the overthrow of the entire

01:05:58.360 system, whether you're talking about the overthrow of capitalism, or in the case of the Nazis,

01:06:03.960 the overthrow of the world Jewish conspiracy.

01:06:07.200 So that's the kind of mindset that we're fighting against, Glenn, is one that sees human

01:06:13.320 beings not as free individuals, not as beings gifted with a soul, with a, uh, with, with

01:06:22.320 an independent will, uh, to make our future and to make our density as we see fit or as

01:06:29.560 we desire, but instead as pawns of these vast historical forces, white supremacy, patriarchy,

01:06:39.220 uh, homophobia, Islamophobia, you name it.

01:06:42.480 Uh, and that in those circumstances, it becomes then, uh, uh, irrelevant whether in fact, uh,

01:06:50.400 for example, African Americans living in this country have a longer lifespan than, uh, Africans

01:06:55.440 who are living in, in, in, in their own, in their own continent, uh, that the stories of

01:07:00.940 people like Oprah Winfrey, uh, stories of people like Clarence Thomas, uh, are meaningless

01:07:07.440 because things are posed in terms of these huge, ultimately meaningless abstractions.

01:07:12.660 You know, the, the issue you just put your finger on reparations and the issue you just

01:07:17.760 mentioned immigration are in fact intimately connected because they are both based upon

01:07:24.400 an historical lie, which is, is that America is ultimately an evil place built by white supremacists,

01:07:32.500 uh, built by, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Christian, uh, uh, uh, fundamentalists, uh, believers in

01:07:43.300 the enslavement of the rest of the world, patriarchalists, all those kinds of cliches.

01:07:48.580 And therefore, why would you defend a country, right?

01:07:51.220 Why would you want to protect the borders of a country which was born in sin?

01:07:54.620 Why would you want to, uh, uh, not, uh, repay those that have suffered, uh, as a result of

01:08:02.440 that, uh, of, of that original sin, uh, in the sense of, uh, you know, those who, who may

01:08:07.980 or may not be descendants of slaves.

01:08:09.560 And by the way, that is going to be a really hard issue to sort out.

01:08:13.340 You understand that, right?

01:08:14.820 That's going to be an insuperable question.

01:08:17.980 And then, you know, I look at my own experience, right?

01:08:19.980 You mentioned your great, great grandfathers.

01:08:21.960 Well, my great, great grandfather fought in the Union Army.

01:08:24.540 He was wounded at the Battle of Stones River, fighting against slavery, fighting against the

01:08:29.580 Confederacy.

01:08:30.200 So where do I fit in terms of, uh, who's going to be responsible for, for reparations,

01:08:35.820 uh, and who is, who ultimately needs to be called into account for, uh, for what happened

01:08:42.660 and what, what was part of, an indissoluble part of the 13 colonies that became an independent

01:08:50.800 nation.

01:08:51.320 Um, and that was an issue that every great statesman up until 1860 wrestled with and tried

01:09:00.840 to find a solution to, and that, that haunted American politics for all those years, uh,

01:09:08.380 since, and that ultimately required the shedding of blood of more than 600,000 Americans before,

01:09:16.480 before it was finally sorted out.

01:09:18.280 Look, you and I know we bungled the reconstruction period immediately after the Civil War.

01:09:25.560 There were, uh, the answers were there.

01:09:28.740 And you just mentioned one of them, the 40 acres and the mule, the, the ways in which to

01:09:32.620 go forward, those options were there.

01:09:35.400 Uh, if we really were a, a irredeemably evil society, those options we wouldn't have chosen,

01:09:41.600 you know, the past that we did, it would have been inevitable, would have been locked in,

01:09:46.780 but we didn't, uh, mistakes, uh, were, were, were, were made by, uh, in those two decades

01:09:54.260 that followed the Civil War.

01:09:55.600 But the reasons why those mistakes were made, and there are, uh, there's no way you can look

01:10:01.940 at the historical record since and not see the history of the United States, uh, as one

01:10:07.580 that has promoted all of the most important human values and the most important foundations

01:10:15.060 of human freedom in any society, any society in the world.

01:10:19.720 And that includes the Civil Rights Movement, which, as you know, goes back much further than

01:10:25.520 Martin Luther King, uh, that King was the culmination of, of, of work, of a, of a title move in

01:10:34.860 consciousness in this country, uh, that had been set in motion, uh, before, before he arrived

01:10:40.300 on the scene and that he was able to, that he was able to, to bring, to bring to fruition.

01:10:45.220 The, the, the story of America, of a race in America is one that could be written in a

01:10:52.160 very different way from the way in which the organizers of this reparations campaign have

01:10:58.980 written it, and it would be much truer to the historical reality than their distortions

01:11:03.720 and caricatures.

01:11:05.460 All right, Arthur, I've only got a couple more minutes with you, and I, I gotta ask you this,

01:11:09.380 um, I, I'm, I'm concerned, very concerned, and so is everyone in my industry about the

01:11:15.080 silencing of voices and how we, how fast we can be de-platformed and entirely erased.

01:11:21.620 And that leads me to look at things, you know, like, uh, like Huckleberry Finn and Mark

01:11:29.020 Twain being removed from shelves of libraries and not, not taught anymore.

01:11:33.240 Um, if, if we would enter this dystopian world that China is already in, or if we were hit

01:11:42.820 by an EMP, uh, God forbid, we had some, some sort of war with Russia and we're trying to

01:11:49.480 knock each other out, uh, electronically, uh, all this knowledge could be lost.

01:11:56.780 What, if you had to save things and beyond the Bible and, and the founding documents,

01:12:03.240 what, what books would you say every library should have, every person should read, every,

01:12:11.280 every school kid should read, we gotta have these books if we're going to tell the true

01:12:15.980 story of America, uh, and if we would ever want to reset it and put it right?

01:12:22.440 Wow, that is a really great question.

01:12:24.940 And we're going to have to have another hour, Glenn, in order to start through all of it.

01:12:28.060 You know that, you know that.

01:12:29.120 I know, but I'll tell you what, I was thinking about this, uh, and, and it's one that it's

01:12:34.440 an exercise that I've conducted myself several times, but since we only have a few minutes

01:12:38.700 here, what if we just limited ourselves to, to basically five books written by American

01:12:43.760 presidents, uh, as a way in which to do this, which I think many ways encapsulate so much

01:12:49.280 of the American experience that, that they really ought to be part of and understanding

01:12:53.780 where we are and how we've gotten to where we are, that I think that, that everybody

01:12:59.140 should, should really read and should be in every library.

01:13:02.400 The first one, the first one that came to my mind was the speeches and addresses of Abraham

01:13:06.700 Lincoln.

01:13:07.680 You know, enough said, right?

01:13:09.340 You and I share, share, uh, admiration and fascination for those, but for, for more than

01:13:14.920 just the ones associated with civil war, for a man who had a really deep understanding

01:13:18.600 of American history, a deep understanding of, of Western history, including, including

01:13:25.460 our, our Judeo-Christian roots.

01:13:27.700 It's an amazing, amazing piece of, amazing piece of work.

01:13:31.460 Then the other one that I would do is, and this is going to shock you, this is going to

01:13:35.520 surprise you, Glenn, is the speeches of Franklin Roosevelt.

01:13:38.940 You know, everybody discovered with astonishment, right?

01:13:42.220 His, his, his, his prayer before D-Day, um, just this last anniversary.

01:13:47.980 But in fact, all his speeches, whatever you say about, you know, Franklin Roosevelt, he

01:13:52.560 made some huge mistakes and, uh, in policy during the new deal, uh, he, he certainly had

01:13:59.640 some, some false assumptions about how the world work and his ability to, to create a

01:14:05.360 post-war world in conjunction with the Soviet Union.

01:14:08.180 But you know what, for, as American presidents go, he, his speeches reflect an understanding of

01:14:14.340 who we are of, of, of what our aspirations need to be that in ways that, uh, made them

01:14:20.200 household, you know, everybody understood them, everybody grasped them.

01:14:24.120 What, so I would definitely put that on the list.

01:14:26.100 I would also read them, uh, Dwight Eisenhower's crusade in Europe, which is really understanding

01:14:31.660 how that man was able to put together and hold together a multinational, um, uh, effort

01:14:38.720 to, to, to free Nazi Germany and why we did it.

01:14:42.000 It's an amazing book.

01:14:43.280 I would also include Ronald Reagan's diaries because those show a mind at work in the White

01:14:50.500 House, understanding how it is that we are going to be able to deal with and, and ultimately

01:14:56.900 emerge victorious against Soviet communism, which everybody else assumed we would have to,

01:15:02.640 we'd be lucky if we could find a way to engage in peaceful coexistence.

01:15:05.700 It exposes a side of Ronald Reagan that not only enhances our understanding of his importance

01:15:11.320 as an American president, but also we, we see the way in which America in the, in the

01:15:17.200 Cold War era, this mind coming to grasp with what's taking place and, and understanding

01:15:23.340 where it fits in terms of where America needs to be.

01:15:26.660 Then the last one I'll recommend, Glenn, John F. Kennedy's Profiles in Courage.

01:15:31.800 I think it's a wonderful book.

01:15:33.480 And, you know, there's a lot of scandal about who really wrote that book, uh, and so on

01:15:38.320 and about his father's lobbying.

01:15:40.980 So we get the Pulitzer Prize, but the biographies, first of all, the biographies of the men in

01:15:47.260 the U S Senate who grappled with the issue of slavery.

01:15:50.380 It's very well laid out in that book.

01:15:52.700 Uh, he has a wonderful chapter on Robert Taft, uh, the Republican center from Ohio that we've

01:15:59.040 talked about before, which is considering it is written for, you know, person from the opposite

01:16:03.580 political party is amazing.

01:16:05.640 Um, his discussion there about, uh, about George Norris, who took a strong stand against the

01:16:12.180 Wilsonian kind of view of the world, uh, and of America's involvement in world war one.

01:16:18.520 Uh, it's a lot of, it's a very readable, I read it first as a, as a school kid, uh, but

01:16:24.680 it's one which I think its value grows, uh, as the, as the decades pass as a way to understand

01:16:31.260 who we are and all of the really amazing things that we have accomplished as a society, as a

01:16:37.880 nation and of the people who have made it possible for us to, to be, to be that, uh, be that beacon

01:16:46.120 in the world that, that we still are Glenn.

01:16:48.460 It's still, it's still there.

01:16:50.040 However much people try to try to try to extinguish the flame.

01:16:54.780 Arthur, I love talking to you.

01:16:55.800 I mean, you should just come in and we should just do a whole show together.

01:16:59.200 Cause I still have about two hours left of stuff.

01:17:01.820 I want to ask you, thank you so much for your time.

01:17:04.140 And we'll have you back again, uh, Arthur Herman, uh, you can follow him on Twitter

01:17:09.540 at Arthur L Herman, uh, his, uh, book that is a great entry for him is, uh, freedom's

01:17:17.240 forge, which talks about how we won world war two.

01:17:20.880 It is an amazing story and you'll all the way through it.

01:17:24.300 Think, gosh, I wonder if corporations would do that now.

01:17:27.420 I wonder if we are those same people.

01:17:29.480 Now, Arthur Herman is his name, any of his books.

01:17:34.140 Any of them are tremendous.

01:17:36.320 Uh, you can also find him at Hudson.org.

01:17:40.040 All right.

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01:20:49.240 We are going to talk to a mayor in Texas who his story of what's happening to his town

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01:20:56.600 And we go there in one minute.

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01:23:18.540 Let me give you some, let me give you some, uh, illegal immigration stats.

01:23:27.000 Okay.

01:23:27.700 Now these are just between 2011 and 2016 between 2011 and 2016, there have been more than 500,000

01:23:38.740 criminal offenses, 996 homicides done by illegals, 996 homicides, 59,200 assaults, 14,000 burglaries,

01:23:50.920 58,000 drug charges, 605 kidnappings, 36,000 thefts, 39,000 obstructing police, 3,000 robberies,

01:24:02.320 5,000 rapes, 7,000, uh, 7,000 weapons charges.

01:24:08.780 That's just between the, the years 2011 and 2016 in Texas alone.

01:24:18.180 What are we doing?

01:24:21.460 The flood of illegals into Texas is going to kill Texas.

01:24:28.280 It's going to, it is strangling the small cities, especially these little teeny cities on the

01:24:35.360 border.

01:24:36.000 They're not getting any help from the federal government and people are coming hundreds a

01:24:41.120 day.

01:24:41.720 And what are they supposed to do about it?

01:24:44.540 Don McLaughlin, I've been trying to talk to him for about a week.

01:24:47.700 He's been up in Washington testifying.

01:24:49.680 He is, he's really, uh, a little outspoken on this.

01:24:53.460 And when you hear his story of his town, what's happening in his town, uh, you'll see,

01:25:00.040 you'll see why he's outspoken.

01:25:01.600 Welcome to the program.

01:25:02.660 Uh, mayor McLaughlin, how are you?

01:25:04.920 He dropped.

01:25:05.940 Are we going to get him back on?

01:25:08.780 Uh, I heard him, uh, I heard him speak in front of, uh, Congress.

01:25:13.720 And, uh, when you hear somebody who is actually living this and you hear him talk about, I mean,

01:25:22.140 all the, a lot of the people in his town are Hispanic and they don't, they don't want this

01:25:27.700 either.

01:25:28.580 You know, this is not a race thing.

01:25:30.400 This isn't a phobia.

01:25:31.900 This is a real problem.

01:25:34.120 Mayor, welcome to the program.

01:25:35.380 How are you, sir?

01:25:36.340 Good.

01:25:36.780 Thank you.

01:25:37.160 I appreciate the opportunity.

01:25:38.360 How are you today?

01:25:39.860 Very good.

01:25:40.620 I heard, I heard you, uh, I heard you speak.

01:25:43.240 Uh, I think it was to, uh, Horowitz on the, on, uh, the blaze and, uh, your story is amazing.

01:25:51.220 Can you tell me what's happening in your town?

01:25:53.280 Sure.

01:25:53.860 What, what, uh, well, as we've been saying, the border patrol is just unindated with these

01:26:00.520 family units that are crossing the border.

01:26:03.180 And the misconception that, that is out there is that everybody thinks this is strictly just

01:26:09.580 South Americans that are from Mexico and Guatemala and Honduras and El Salvador.

01:26:14.800 Well, it's 29 different countries are crossing the, the Southern border, not just, not just

01:26:21.620 from there.

01:26:22.580 And they're coming from all over and it's just, they're coming in family units and it's

01:26:28.020 un, the border patrol just slammed and these family units.

01:26:32.700 So as they're getting slammed, they're having to come out and start releasing these family

01:26:37.700 units because they have no place to put them.

01:26:39.580 They, they're, they're at capacity at all their hold of facilities.

01:26:44.140 And so they came to us in, in May and told us, oh, we're going to start releasing, uh, uh,

01:26:50.820 immigrant families in your community.

01:26:53.040 Uh, we're going to release them up here at the Stripes convenience store or at your H-E-B

01:26:57.380 or your Walmart.

01:26:58.760 And we said, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:27:00.360 We, you know, no, we're not, we're not set up to, to handle that.

01:27:04.100 You know, it's not that we don't want to help them.

01:27:06.380 We're just, you know, we're a town of 17,000 people.

01:27:09.060 We're just not, you know, we're just not set up to handle that.

01:27:12.700 And so.

01:27:13.420 How many a day, how many a day were they talking and how many a day are actually coming?

01:27:17.920 Well, when they first started, we were talking about getting 10 to 20, then it went to 20

01:27:22.940 to 40.

01:27:23.880 Uh, then we ended up, uh, up to date.

01:27:27.400 We've got a hundred and 122.

01:27:30.300 We haven't got in the last week only because of the, only because the facility that we have

01:27:35.580 here in Uvalde is used for unaccompanied minors.

01:27:40.380 And right now they are at capacity.

01:27:43.120 So many unaccompanied minors have come in the last week that they are full.

01:27:48.180 They cannot process any family units here in Uvalde now because so many unaccompanied

01:27:52.840 minors have come across in the last week.

01:27:54.840 Now I've, I've heard you, I heard you talk about how, um, there's one family who won't,

01:28:03.020 the kids won't go swimming unless dad is in the, in the back by the pool with a shotgun

01:28:07.520 because things are so crazy.

01:28:12.060 Well, what's happening, what's happening in the border patrol that usually, you know, is,

01:28:16.580 is watching for the, you know, whether the, the coyotes that are bringing the immigrants

01:28:22.260 through or where this particular landowner is out by the train, by the train tracks,

01:28:27.820 his property is, and these immigrants get on these trains coming out of, out of, uh,

01:28:33.360 Del Rio or Eagle Pass or even Lareda.

01:28:35.640 It's a, it's a, it's a main east and west, uh, railroad that comes through here.

01:28:40.340 And so they get on this train.

01:28:41.980 And so the border patrol has a, uh, facility here where they stop the train and check it

01:28:47.820 for immigrants.

01:28:48.940 Well, usually they have a pretty large contingency of border patrol when they stop that train

01:28:54.100 and check it.

01:28:55.440 Well, they're so spread out and spread so thin now with these family units that they're all

01:28:59.780 doing that, that when they stop it, there may be anywhere from 30 to 40 people on that

01:29:05.200 train.

01:29:05.700 And you got three border patrol agents trying to, to capture all these immigrants and they

01:29:11.100 don't have the manpower.

01:29:12.800 Uh, since then, since this last incident, we're, we're trying to fill in with, with our police

01:29:17.540 department and the sheriff's department when, when they ask for it.

01:29:21.280 But what's happening is they're, they're jumping off this train and running.

01:29:25.020 And this particular landowner is, is starting to, it's been going on in his property, he

01:29:30.840 said, for the last 60 days, but it just keeps getting worse and worse.

01:29:34.360 And about a week ago, he had one that jumped off or a group that jumped off and came to

01:29:38.520 his property.

01:29:39.020 And one particular individual got real aggressive, uh, with him, uh, threatening and, uh, real

01:29:45.980 aggressive.

01:29:46.300 He did everything he could to try to catch him and, and get him.

01:29:49.740 They, uh, brought a helicopter out and tried to find him and didn't, didn't find him.

01:29:53.200 But the man threatened him and told him he was going to come back and get him in different

01:29:57.060 things.

01:29:57.400 And he said he and his wife, you know, didn't sleep a wink that night because the guy told

01:30:01.280 him he was coming back that night to get him.

01:30:03.200 And we didn't catch him in town either.

01:30:05.280 Uh, and we looked, but you know, and that's when he said it, that's when I was talking to

01:30:10.320 him, he said, you know, it's gotten so bad that my grandkids won't even come out to the

01:30:13.840 house and go swimming unless I sit out in the backyard with a shotgun because we never know when

01:30:17.760 they're going to show up.

01:30:19.060 It is.

01:30:19.660 And you're, you're a town of, you're a town of 17,000, so you're not a town that, you

01:30:25.020 know, has Starsky and Hutch kind of car chases ever, right?

01:30:29.580 No, we, uh, in, in, in, in the last 25 years, we've had maybe two car chases in the last two

01:30:38.740 weeks.

01:30:39.000 We've had five, uh, two of them have bailed out in town where we've had to lock, put our

01:30:44.440 schools on lockdown.

01:30:45.500 Uh, the first one, there were eight individuals.

01:30:48.620 Uh, so they jumped out in the middle of town, right by our schools.

01:30:52.820 So we had to lock all our schools down.

01:30:55.020 We spent most of the day.

01:30:56.320 We caught those eight individuals.

01:30:57.940 The other day we had four that jumped out of a car.

01:31:01.500 The lady that was, that was transporting them claimed that one of them had a gun and, uh,

01:31:07.440 that's why she was transporting them.

01:31:08.840 The border patrol says that they don't think that was probably true, but we didn't know,

01:31:13.480 but we didn't catch those four.

01:31:14.820 But again, we had to put another school on lockdown because it was in close proximity

01:31:18.660 to where they jumped out.

01:31:20.740 And we're seeing this more and more.

01:31:23.940 So, so, um, we're talking to mayor Don McLaughlin, um, border town here in Texas.

01:31:31.440 That is, and this story is not unique.

01:31:34.080 It's happening, uh, where the people of the town are paying a price.

01:31:39.260 And Don, I've talked about the Bubba effect for a very long time that the government just

01:31:45.360 stops doing what it's supposed to do.

01:31:50.240 And the people of the town, you know, become really angry and start to take things in their

01:31:55.860 own hands because the government is not doing it.

01:31:58.740 And I'm not saying that you're there or anything else.

01:32:00.680 And God forbid we ever get there, but what is the attitude towards the federal government

01:32:06.380 from your citizens?

01:32:09.160 Well, Republican and Democrat.

01:32:11.020 Well, they're fed up with both sides because like I said, like I said before, this isn't

01:32:16.060 a Republican problem or a Democrat problem.

01:32:18.400 It's an American problem.

01:32:19.580 It's an American people problem.

01:32:21.000 I mean, it's both sides and both sides are, and people in my community are fed up.

01:32:26.800 They're, they're, they're frustrated with, with, with us as local government, because we're

01:32:31.900 having to use city funds and county funds when they drop these immigrant families off here

01:32:37.300 in Uvalde.

01:32:37.880 We're having to take them and we're having to pay for a bus to take them to San Antonio

01:32:42.560 because we don't have the facilities to do it.

01:32:44.680 So we're spending.

01:32:45.960 And San Antonio.

01:32:47.700 Yeah, right.

01:32:48.640 And San Antonio doesn't have the funding either.

01:32:51.520 And San Antonio is dealing now, as you said, these people are not coming from Guatemala.

01:32:55.960 They're dealing with people coming from the Congo, which is the Ebola hotspot and a place

01:33:02.300 where ISIS has been recruiting lately.

01:33:04.480 I mean, we don't know who's coming in and bringing what into our communities and they're

01:33:10.580 being dumped.

01:33:11.540 Well, I asked our federal, I asked, I sent all our elected officials an email when this

01:33:18.940 first started the other day, when in Del Rio, Texas, the first wave, 115 immigrants from

01:33:26.820 the Congo showed up in Del Rio, Texas.

01:33:29.380 I mean, if you look on the map and see where the Congo is, and then you look on the map

01:33:34.600 and see where Del Rio, Texas is, how did 115 Congolese get to Del Rio, Texas?

01:33:42.700 Then two days later, they got another 350 from Congolese.

01:33:47.440 Right.

01:33:47.920 And they also don't speak a word of English or Spanish.

01:33:52.740 How did they get here?

01:33:55.060 How did they get here?

01:33:57.000 And nobody can tell us that answer.

01:33:59.600 And we, like I said, up until the last day or so, we have seen nothing from the federal

01:34:05.160 government as far as any answers, any help.

01:34:08.700 We've asked for help to get reimbursed.

01:34:10.620 We've asked what we're going to do.

01:34:11.800 And until yesterday is the first time that we've seen anything that there's been a bill

01:34:16.760 to reimburse communities for the expenses they're out.

01:34:20.320 I mean, Del Rio, Texas, which is 60 miles from us, they're getting unindated.

01:34:26.800 I mean, they're getting 140 to 160 people released in their community every day.

01:34:32.500 And before they got a coalition going, they were just taking them and dropping them off at

01:34:36.440 the local stripes.

01:34:37.240 And it's not the Border Patrol's fault, because they're being told by Washington, this is what

01:34:43.380 you're going to do.

01:34:44.600 I mean, our local Border Patrol in this area, they work with our communities.

01:34:48.940 I mean, they're good people, and they work hard.

01:34:51.880 I mean, but they're just strapped.

01:34:56.560 I've only got about a minute left.

01:34:58.600 Is the governor's office, is Texas doing anything?

01:35:03.440 Are they doing enough?

01:35:04.540 Where are, where's, where's our leadership from Texas?

01:35:09.000 Well, you know, again, we're just starting to hear rumblings that, that, that the governor

01:35:14.360 is going to deploy more DPS troopers and that we haven't seen it yet.

01:35:19.540 I haven't seen anything to that effect.

01:35:21.420 I was told that last night.

01:35:22.900 I haven't seen any, anything in writing of that.

01:35:25.620 But, you know, like I said, we, we have, we have written letters called to all our elected

01:35:32.760 officials, and we're just not getting responses.

01:35:36.020 We're just not getting, it's like it's falling on deaf ears.

01:35:39.760 That's amazing to me.

01:35:41.100 Don, thank you so much.

01:35:42.860 And my best to your community.

01:35:44.720 And please stay in touch with us.

01:35:45.940 If there's any way we can help, or if you need to bring, shine a light onto something,

01:35:50.020 please let us know.

01:35:50.920 So, uh, and we'll be there for you.

01:35:52.980 I do appreciate the opportunity.

01:35:54.520 Thank you.

01:35:55.640 You bet.

01:35:56.360 Thank you.

01:35:56.720 Mayor Don McLaughlin from Uvalde, Texas.

01:35:59.580 Um, I want to give you some, I want to give you some other stats here, uh, to show you

01:36:04.120 if we lose Texas politically, it's over.

01:36:08.300 Okay.

01:36:09.140 There's, it's over, uh, since 2000, and this is only up to 2011.

01:36:15.600 Okay.

01:36:16.500 So we're not counting any of the Obama surge or this surge since the, you, uh, since

01:36:22.420 the year 2000, the immigrant population has grown by 43%.

01:36:27.780 That's legal and illegal in Texas.

01:36:30.340 The national immigration population has grown by 28% during the same timeframe.

01:36:36.240 The immigrant population stood at 4.

01:36:38.840 Uh, 4.1 million, an increase of 1.5 million in a decade, 28% live in poverty, 41% lack health

01:36:49.420 insurance, 45% use at least one welfare program, primarily food assistance and Medicaid, and

01:36:55.820 46% of these immigrants never completed high school.

01:37:00.720 That was the previous decade, not the one we're in.

01:37:04.560 We're losing everything.

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01:38:49.580 You know,

01:38:50.240 what's amazing to me is you look at Texas and then you look at California,

01:38:55.680 California, Los Angeles,

01:38:57.480 their homeless problem,

01:38:58.680 and they have no idea what's causing it.

01:39:00.560 Their homeless problem in Los Angeles is now entering third world status.

01:39:10.540 Third world.

01:39:13.920 Now,

01:39:14.660 why is that?

01:39:17.180 California.

01:39:18.860 Why is this happening to you?

01:39:21.760 And it has nothing to do with Hispanics.

01:39:25.360 It has everything to do with your policies.

01:39:27.580 If you look,

01:39:29.840 you compare the state of New York and the state of Texas.

01:39:33.620 I don't know of race problems in Texas.

01:39:36.460 Okay.

01:39:36.920 I mean,

01:39:37.260 there's always racists,

01:39:38.660 you know,

01:39:39.400 everywhere,

01:39:40.000 blah,

01:39:40.160 blah,

01:39:40.280 blah,

01:39:40.360 blah.

01:39:40.440 But we don't,

01:39:41.080 we're not having race riots or,

01:39:43.020 or anything else like that.

01:39:44.540 I don't hear any Texans complaining about Hispanics.

01:39:48.220 I don't hear it.

01:39:49.280 Now I'm sure there are,

01:39:50.280 but I don't hear it.

01:39:51.240 But you look at our immigration,

01:39:56.080 our immigrant population,

01:39:58.240 mainly Hispanic grew 43% in the last decade.

01:40:03.820 I know it's higher than that.

01:40:05.840 Now it has to be.

01:40:08.340 Let's compare this with the state of New York.

01:40:11.080 Immigrant population only increased in New York,

01:40:13.740 11% compared to Texas at 43%.

01:40:18.440 But we don't have a problem with it.

01:40:22.360 22% live in poverty.

01:40:25.460 22% live in poverty in New York.

01:40:28.620 22% lack healthcare.

01:40:30.500 41% are on major welfare programs.

01:40:32.760 And only 20% completed high school.

01:40:36.300 46% in Texas didn't complete high school.

01:40:39.720 Now,

01:40:40.060 why is this?

01:40:41.020 Why can Texas handle this and not become New York,

01:40:45.100 not become California?

01:40:46.340 Because some of the policies that we have actually work.

01:40:54.260 We have,

01:40:55.520 we have a ban against sanctuary cities,

01:40:57.940 but then again,

01:40:58.980 our federal government is dumping illegals into our cities.

01:41:04.500 Isn't that a violation of our sanctuary cities?

01:41:08.780 I think so.

01:41:10.280 Where is Ted Cruz?

01:41:14.880 Where is Cornyn?

01:41:17.300 And my favorite governor I've ever had in a state,

01:41:21.660 Greg Abbott,

01:41:22.340 where are you?

01:41:22.840 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

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01:42:51.880 So Stu,

01:42:53.660 I think I have a billion dollar idea,

01:42:55.740 really,

01:42:56.040 but you are the food.

01:42:57.060 You're the food guy.

01:42:58.220 So just hear me out.

01:42:59.620 So earlier today I talked to you about,

01:43:01.660 and this,

01:43:02.340 I know this,

01:43:03.160 this sounds racist,

01:43:04.140 but it's not racist,

01:43:05.300 but that's what a racist says before they say something racist.

01:43:08.360 So I'm in this,

01:43:09.360 I'm in this feedback loop.

01:43:10.700 I can't get out of,

01:43:11.460 I am having a hard time finding somebody to chink this old log cabin.

01:43:17.520 We,

01:43:17.780 we have an old log cabin from 1880,

01:43:20.440 uh,

01:43:21.680 and nothing's ever been done to it.

01:43:24.000 And so we're redoing it.

01:43:25.640 And I can't,

01:43:27.380 I can't do any more until it's re chinked,

01:43:30.500 which is the white stuff in between,

01:43:32.700 uh,

01:43:33.640 the logs.

01:43:35.020 And so if you happen to be a chinker in,

01:43:37.980 you know,

01:43:38.340 somebody that does this,

01:43:40.320 boy,

01:43:40.820 could I use your help right now?

01:43:42.460 Uh,

01:43:42.780 you can just call me,

01:43:44.000 call me anyway.

01:43:45.600 So when you say the white stuff,

01:43:47.840 like,

01:43:48.500 uh,

01:43:49.360 think of a log cabin.

01:43:50.600 Yeah.

01:43:51.420 And you know,

01:43:51.860 the logs and then the space between the logs,

01:43:54.700 the stuff that fills usually white,

01:43:56.220 right?

01:43:57.360 That's chinking.

01:43:58.380 Okay.

01:43:58.780 And you can't just do it.

01:44:00.520 I mean,

01:44:00.700 it's a real art to do it.

01:44:02.900 And when you do a log cabin and you do it right,

01:44:06.420 and the chinking is right.

01:44:08.620 It is,

01:44:09.720 it holds the heat.

01:44:11.340 It holds the cold.

01:44:12.560 Uh,

01:44:13.040 I mean,

01:44:13.380 it's,

01:44:14.120 it's really an amazing thing,

01:44:16.560 but it's a,

01:44:17.680 it's,

01:44:17.940 you know,

01:44:18.280 a lost art.

01:44:19.440 And apparently,

01:44:21.060 uh,

01:44:22.100 there's like two people in my area that do it.

01:44:24.520 And they're like,

01:44:25.000 yeah,

01:44:25.140 we're six months out,

01:44:26.200 which you can't do it in six months because you can't do it in the cold.

01:44:31.880 Uh,

01:44:32.420 and so it's just a,

01:44:33.800 so I'm like a year away from being able to do something if I can't get somebody to rechink it.

01:44:38.380 So I,

01:44:38.860 I,

01:44:39.360 I don't,

01:44:40.160 I don't know how you find people that do chinking that are good.

01:44:44.480 I have no idea,

01:44:45.520 but I had another idea.

01:44:46.920 And here's the food,

01:44:47.820 here's the food thing.

01:44:48.560 Okay.

01:44:48.840 What would you say to a log cabin made entirely out of bacon or sausage and it's held together with maple syrup?

01:45:04.300 So you're now I could live in this.

01:45:06.800 I could live in this until I ate one of the walls.

01:45:10.000 Right.

01:45:10.420 So a half an hour,

01:45:11.640 you could live in it and then,

01:45:13.540 yes.

01:45:14.920 And then it would be,

01:45:15.520 I may not ever finish it.

01:45:16.860 If I had to build it,

01:45:18.140 I would never finish it.

01:45:19.440 It would always,

01:45:20.200 it'd be like one of those cathedrals that are like,

01:45:22.540 you know,

01:45:22.780 they've been building it for 400 years,

01:45:24.780 except mine would be only about,

01:45:27.000 you know,

01:45:27.620 600 square feet.

01:45:31.000 It feels like,

01:45:31.840 cause when you were describing this process,

01:45:34.300 what immediately came to mind was once a year,

01:45:37.460 I'm sitting around trying to build a gingerbread house and you're putting icing in between the wall.

01:45:43.920 That's exactly what it is.

01:45:44.720 Right.

01:45:44.980 You're trying to get it all stick together.

01:45:46.360 So I took all the chinking out on the inside.

01:45:50.720 And once I got it all the way out on four walls,

01:45:54.100 you know,

01:45:54.380 I should have read,

01:45:55.280 I should have read,

01:45:55.940 should have studied up on this.

01:45:57.620 The entire cabin started to move.

01:46:00.980 And so we can't take the chinking out on the outside because there's nothing really holding this thing together.

01:46:07.740 And,

01:46:08.200 you know,

01:46:08.440 I was just trying to help out,

01:46:10.020 you know,

01:46:10.360 I was just like,

01:46:10.920 Hey,

01:46:11.040 I'll do that.

01:46:11.720 Cause that's why waste somebody else's time.

01:46:13.960 I'll do all,

01:46:14.780 I'll get rid of it.

01:46:15.380 So we got rid of it.

01:46:16.300 And we did a really good job.

01:46:18.000 I didn't think it through.

01:46:19.900 That's what's holding this whole thing up.

01:46:23.440 Yeah.

01:46:23.980 That seemingly would be obvious,

01:46:26.240 I think to most people,

01:46:27.860 but apparently you could make a case.

01:46:31.960 You could make a case that that's just for the,

01:46:35.740 for the,

01:46:37.860 the,

01:46:38.160 the weather keeping the elements out,

01:46:40.300 you know,

01:46:40.720 keeping it.

01:46:41.260 So it's not the winds,

01:46:42.440 not blowing through those holes.

01:46:43.960 You could make that case.

01:46:45.500 Right.

01:46:46.100 Right.

01:46:46.440 This is like when you want something very long,

01:46:48.600 wrong in our studios and you just come into the room and no one's around.

01:46:52.200 So you just start pressing buttons and which that always helps a lot.

01:46:55.320 I mean,

01:46:55.520 it's because there's a good chance you're going to press on the right buttons in the right order.

01:47:00.800 Right.

01:47:01.200 Right.

01:47:02.740 Right.

01:47:03.700 It doesn't happen,

01:47:04.660 but one day it will.

01:47:05.580 Right.

01:47:06.320 I mean,

01:47:06.680 they always say that if you,

01:47:07.900 if you put a chimpanzee in front of a typewriter,

01:47:10.420 eventually a novel comes out.

01:47:11.700 Just a matter,

01:47:12.200 just a matter,

01:47:13.020 just a matter of how many generations you have to wait.

01:47:16.200 Probably a lot.

01:47:17.140 So do you know,

01:47:17.920 kind of change the subject here.

01:47:19.440 Do you know who Granger Smith is?

01:47:22.040 No.

01:47:22.300 He's a country music artist.

01:47:23.640 Okay.

01:47:24.080 Country music artist.

01:47:25.760 Excuse me.

01:47:26.380 He's had a couple of number one hits.

01:47:28.420 He has,

01:47:29.460 he has been,

01:47:31.020 he's really gone through,

01:47:32.440 um,

01:47:33.560 hell.

01:47:34.420 His,

01:47:34.900 how old was his son?

01:47:36.240 Uh,

01:47:36.540 three.

01:47:37.340 Oh yeah.

01:47:37.940 I did see the story.

01:47:38.840 Yeah.

01:47:39.160 Yeah.

01:47:39.600 So he's out with his son and he is thinking,

01:47:42.240 this is the greatest moment of my life.

01:47:45.060 He sat in the backyard playing with his son.

01:47:46.460 This is the greatest moment of my life.

01:47:50.940 Literally no more than three to five minutes later,

01:47:54.800 he's giving his son CPR and his son went into the pool,

01:48:00.060 drown and,

01:48:01.100 and died.

01:48:02.700 And he's,

01:48:04.180 he's sharing some of his thoughts now.

01:48:07.560 Um,

01:48:08.040 and I just want to share this with you because this is,

01:48:10.740 this is the way I feel right now all the time.

01:48:17.300 Um,

01:48:18.220 he,

01:48:18.520 he wrote,

01:48:19.080 what if we were all given a thousand days?

01:48:22.420 What if you were given a gift of a thousand days on this earth and you

01:48:27.340 could live those days,

01:48:28.640 barefoot,

01:48:29.400 red hair,

01:48:29.960 flying back on your tractor,

01:48:31.460 full speed ahead.

01:48:32.980 If you could do that with your family around you with no real care in the

01:48:37.680 world,

01:48:38.260 that's a good thousand days.

01:48:41.500 That's a good way to live.

01:48:44.820 And,

01:48:45.340 uh,

01:48:45.820 I,

01:48:46.460 I tell you,

01:48:47.580 we're missing some of that.

01:48:50.340 I mean,

01:48:50.520 everybody's going to always have cares.

01:48:52.820 You know,

01:48:53.140 we've been up here and,

01:48:54.780 um,

01:48:55.360 you know,

01:48:55.680 we've had all kinds of things go wrong.

01:48:58.000 A well go wrong.

01:48:59.020 The weather went wrong for the farm and everything else.

01:49:01.460 So you'll always have those,

01:49:03.160 but I don't know.

01:49:05.240 There's,

01:49:05.600 there's nothing like some of my best memories as a child is holding onto the

01:49:11.720 back of the seat of the tractor and standing of basically on the,

01:49:18.180 you know,

01:49:18.600 the,

01:49:19.020 uh,

01:49:19.600 the axle or the hit,

01:49:20.800 the hitch in the back of the tractor as my grandfather was driving through

01:49:24.480 the fields.

01:49:25.000 There is something to be said as we're entering summer and in summer now for

01:49:31.480 that shift down,

01:49:34.060 getting out of that rat race all the time that we're in with school and,

01:49:40.380 and with homework and everything else.

01:49:42.100 And just,

01:49:43.220 just living barefoot and,

01:49:48.680 and letting your hair fly wild and just spend it with your family and trying

01:49:55.160 to do that.

01:49:56.780 Um,

01:49:57.540 I've spent this year has been really tough for my son.

01:50:01.700 Really,

01:50:02.240 really tough.

01:50:03.560 It started,

01:50:04.800 um,

01:50:05.280 last year.

01:50:06.180 Uh,

01:50:06.620 if you have been following the story,

01:50:09.100 I've only really talked about it once and I don't want to go into it again,

01:50:11.740 but last year we had a real scare with my son and a security issue with my son.

01:50:17.520 And,

01:50:18.220 uh,

01:50:18.980 that affected him.

01:50:23.120 And,

01:50:23.800 uh,

01:50:24.440 and he's really struggled with a lot of things and he's,

01:50:27.500 you know,

01:50:27.860 he's coming up on 15 years old.

01:50:30.280 And so he's a typical boy and I've,

01:50:34.680 I've done more as a dad,

01:50:39.280 I think with him than any of my other children.

01:50:44.200 Sadly,

01:50:44.900 um,

01:50:46.080 because,

01:50:46.740 uh,

01:50:48.400 he's been close to the edge.

01:50:50.720 He's really been close to the edge.

01:50:52.340 So I've been with him a lot and I,

01:50:54.440 I've spent the last,

01:50:56.280 uh,

01:50:57.160 few weeks with him by my side and the last two weeks.

01:51:00.960 And I thank you for putting up with any kind of problems.

01:51:03.820 And I thank my engineering staff and the studio staff for making all of this possible,

01:51:07.880 but spent the last two weeks with him,

01:51:10.640 just,

01:51:11.180 you know,

01:51:11.840 uh,

01:51:12.960 building fences,

01:51:14.060 um,

01:51:15.000 you know,

01:51:15.420 tearing,

01:51:16.060 tearing things down,

01:51:17.180 uh,

01:51:17.860 and,

01:51:18.340 and working outside and,

01:51:20.740 and just being so exhausted that he's asleep by seven o'clock at night.

01:51:25.420 And he has,

01:51:28.240 he's changed.

01:51:30.360 He has really changed.

01:51:33.240 Um,

01:51:33.840 I will see how long it holds.

01:51:35.560 Um,

01:51:36.120 but just by saying,

01:51:38.860 yeah,

01:51:39.040 no,

01:51:39.260 no electronics.

01:51:41.560 Uh,

01:51:42.180 he bitched and whined for a while.

01:51:44.600 Um,

01:51:45.320 but then he became so busy.

01:51:49.540 He,

01:51:50.120 he didn't even ask for it.

01:51:51.460 Um,

01:51:53.460 and I know that's going to change the minute we get into places where you can get cell service and internet,

01:51:58.560 but,

01:51:58.960 uh,

01:52:00.900 kids don't want to slow down,

01:52:04.360 but when you put them in a situation,

01:52:07.140 uh,

01:52:08.480 where the family is slowed down and you're just out doing the things that you would have done as a kid,

01:52:15.660 you,

01:52:17.540 it roots them.

01:52:18.900 It does root them.

01:52:20.260 And I,

01:52:22.280 I challenge you to,

01:52:24.300 um,

01:52:25.780 to,

01:52:27.320 to take the words of Granger Smith to heart because we are all given a thousand days.

01:52:34.040 We just don't recognize it.

01:52:36.160 The days pass and you're just like,

01:52:38.160 ah,

01:52:38.280 it's just another day.

01:52:39.160 And before you know it,

01:52:39.860 you're old and you've,

01:52:43.540 you've,

01:52:43.820 they've slipped through your fingers.

01:52:48.040 This,

01:52:48.480 this summer begin just to think,

01:52:51.260 and if I only had 30 days,

01:52:53.780 if I was given a gift of 30 days,

01:52:55.860 what would I do?

01:52:57.720 How would I do that with my kids?

01:53:00.000 Then make it 60 days.

01:53:03.660 By the way,

01:53:04.300 you can donate towards,

01:53:05.940 um,

01:53:07.860 uh,

01:53:08.840 donate,

01:53:09.440 you know,

01:53:09.940 in,

01:53:10.160 in memory of a Granger's son.

01:53:12.880 Um,

01:53:13.720 he's raising money for,

01:53:15.220 uh,

01:53:15.740 the Dell children's medical center in his son's name river.

01:53:21.180 Um,

01:53:21.720 they were the ones who tried to save him.

01:53:23.460 And I will tell you,

01:53:24.780 there is nothing more important than a children's hospital when you need one.

01:53:31.320 Um,

01:53:31.920 he's,

01:53:32.640 he's raising money.

01:53:34.280 He's raised over a hundred thousand dollars already just by selling these t-shirts of a neighbor's tractor,

01:53:38.700 uh,

01:53:39.820 on the front.

01:53:40.500 And you can donate through that,

01:53:43.060 but he's got a lot of important things to say and our thoughts and our prayers.

01:53:48.640 And we believe those are meaningful are with a Granger Smith and his family back in a minute.

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01:55:26.160 One thing we did not get a chance to do today.

01:55:30.380 We're going to do tomorrow.

01:55:31.080 The new poll out on socialism.

01:55:33.180 It is very revealing what Americans know about capitalism and socialism.

01:55:38.460 It's shocking.

01:55:39.380 Also kind of tied into this is the,

01:55:43.040 the fact that 40% of those 18 to 24 year old adults are no longer using deodorant.

01:55:50.340 I don't know what's happening to our country.

01:55:52.400 I don't like it.

01:55:53.520 I don't like it.

01:55:54.500 We're turning into France and you know,

01:55:58.220 everybody's got an armpit.

01:56:00.380 Nobody wants to smell yours.

01:56:02.020 Let's just keep that in mind.

01:56:03.320 That's on tomorrow's program.

01:56:05.420 Now,

01:56:06.140 Stu,

01:56:08.020 the,

01:56:09.380 the Chuck Todd,

01:56:11.280 Ocasio-Cortez border,

01:56:13.540 Barack Obama thing is,

01:56:15.700 is unbelievable.

01:56:17.640 Yeah.

01:56:17.920 Do we have,

01:56:18.300 where were these?

01:56:19.220 Yeah,

01:56:19.620 go ahead.

01:56:19.840 I don't know.

01:56:20.260 I mean,

01:56:20.420 I don't know where they've been.

01:56:21.480 And so AOC says the thing about the border being like a concentration camp.

01:56:26.200 She won't back off of that.

01:56:27.220 She gets almost no pushback from the media or the left.

01:56:29.900 People are going out of their way to defend them.

01:56:31.640 Oh,

01:56:31.860 there was concentration camps in the Russian wars previously to the Holocaust.

01:56:36.540 Maybe that's what she was referring to.

01:56:38.580 Shut up.

01:56:38.840 Even though she said,

01:56:39.700 you know,

01:56:39.980 what was it?

01:56:40.320 Never forget or whatever it was like blatantly.

01:56:43.520 We know what she was talking about.

01:56:45.520 Everybody does.

01:56:46.320 And they're doing this sort of retroactive fix her comment thing.

01:56:49.320 Well,

01:56:49.880 Chuck Todd is like the only person out there on the,

01:56:52.800 you know,

01:56:53.100 in the mainstream media who actually pushed back against this.

01:56:55.920 Can we hear some of that audio?

01:56:57.800 If you want to criticize the shameful treatment of people at our Southern border,

01:57:01.080 fine.

01:57:01.780 You'll have plenty of company,

01:57:03.120 but be careful comparing them to Nazi concentration camps because they're not at all comparable in the slightest.

01:57:10.880 But here's where it's upsetting as her comment.

01:57:14.200 Some Democrats have been reluctant to condemn her remarks.

01:57:16.500 They don't want to get criticized on Twitter.

01:57:17.940 Fellow New York Congressman Jerry Nadler tweeted in response,

01:57:20.800 one of the lessons from the Holocaust is never again.

01:57:22.940 We fail to learn that lesson when we don't call out such inhumanity right in front of us.

01:57:27.840 Jerry Nadler surely knows migrant detainment camps are not the same as concentration camps.

01:57:32.360 So why didn't he just say that?

01:57:34.120 Why are we so sheepish calling out people we agree with politically these days?

01:57:37.940 Obviously,

01:57:38.380 this isn't a Democratic Party thing.

01:57:40.320 It's an even bigger problem on the Republican side of the aisle when it comes to President Trump and the reluctance there.

01:57:46.100 Are we really so ensconced in our political bubbles,

01:57:49.700 liberal versus conservative,

01:57:51.500 that we cannot talk about right versus wrong anymore?

01:57:54.500 Some things are bigger than partisanship.

01:57:56.520 At least they used to be.

01:57:57.640 Yeah.

01:57:57.920 Yeah, sure.

01:57:58.640 Yeah.

01:57:59.080 So, but again,

01:57:59.960 like at least he's standing up and saying,

01:58:01.740 okay,

01:58:01.840 this is ridiculous.

01:58:02.740 Obviously,

01:58:03.160 those comments are absurd.

01:58:04.380 Apparently not.

01:58:05.240 Took huge,

01:58:06.100 huge bravery because he's,

01:58:07.920 he's under attack now.

01:58:09.140 Yeah.

01:58:09.460 So he's trending on Twitter.

01:58:11.060 You think,

01:58:11.320 okay,

01:58:11.620 wow,

01:58:11.920 someone stands up to the powers that be in the Democratic Party and calls him out.

01:58:15.600 Maybe that's why he's trending.

01:58:16.880 Now,

01:58:17.040 here's,

01:58:17.300 here's the description.

01:58:18.120 Chuck Todd.

01:58:19.200 Chuck Todd takes heat for criticizing the use of concentration camps to describe the humanitarian crisis at the border.

01:58:26.880 So it's not that Ocasio-Cortez or all the people defending her are the problem.

01:58:32.220 It's the one person in the media anyone could find on the left that actually took this to task.

01:58:38.280 Pretty freaking amazing.

01:58:39.600 It's not,

01:58:40.200 they're not even trying anymore.

01:58:42.480 Chuck Todd,

01:58:43.300 thank you.

01:58:44.300 Thank you for doing that.

01:58:45.400 I mean,

01:58:45.640 we disagree on an awful lot of things,

01:58:47.200 I'm sure.

01:58:47.740 But when somebody does something right that took courage and will take on the mob,

01:58:52.200 thank you,

01:58:52.840 Chuck Todd.

01:58:53.300 I think,

01:58:53.960 I think we should tweet or,

01:58:55.940 you know,

01:58:56.260 Facebook or email him and just say,

01:58:59.100 thank you.

01:58:59.440 We don't agree on anything or everything.

01:59:01.780 But your bravery was noticed.

01:59:04.600 Thank you.

01:59:05.160 That is exactly what I wrote.

01:59:06.400 I sent him a messenger pigeon that is arriving at the NBC studios right now with a handwritten note.

01:59:13.020 I sent him a strip-o-gram.

01:59:14.640 You did?

01:59:15.440 Yeah.

01:59:15.920 Really?

01:59:16.320 A mail strip-o-gram.

01:59:17.000 A mail strip-o-gram.

01:59:18.420 Yeah.

01:59:19.280 I misunderstood the mail.

01:59:21.260 I thought it was M-A-I-L.

01:59:23.340 And it turns out it wasn't.

01:59:25.020 So if it causes any embarrassment or any kind of problems at NBC,

01:59:29.460 I am heart-

01:59:31.460 felt

01:59:32.080 sorry.

01:59:33.340 And the only way to apologize for that is to send another mail strip-o-gram.

01:59:36.980 Right.

01:59:37.720 Right.

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Justice Upside Down？｜ Guests： Arthur Herman & Mayor Don McLaughlin ｜ 6⧸20⧸19

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