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00:01:41.400 Handcuffs. They will be in handcuffs. Breaking news. We have the latest from the White House on this

00:01:56.800 Somali pirate fraud issue at the daycare centers in Minnesota. We're going to get to that coming up

00:02:05.220 here in just moments. Plus the developments, HHS pulling the funding and growing calls for walls

00:02:13.780 to resign. All of it and more on a New Year's Eve with the Glenn Beck Program. Justin Barkley

00:02:20.940 in for Glenn today. Back after this. Right here.

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00:03:37.540 Yeah, this whole Christmas, New Year's break is really been a doozy. Never a goal, but the news never

00:03:45.980 stops. And that's why we're here with you through it. And we thank you for being here with us. Justin

00:03:49.620 Barkley in for Glenn today, my last day filling in. And I just tell you, I am tremendously honored

00:03:55.680 every time I get the chance to sit in Glenn's seat and be here with you. This audience is the smartest,

00:04:00.540 the boldest, the bravest. And I got to tell you, there is just none like it. And I'm completely

00:04:07.040 grateful for it. And as I mentioned, these days, there's never a dull moment. It's like drinking

00:04:13.220 from a firehouse. That's normally what I say these days. But I really feel like this break has been

00:04:18.820 it. And it is one doozy of a year to wrap up to. Now, I'm not going to probably be able to get to

00:04:25.160 all the standard, you know, this is usually what you do. You fill in or you get these shows at the

00:04:32.320 end of the year. Hey, here's the year in the rear. Wait a minute. No, this is the year in the rear view

00:04:40.140 mirror or, you know, the review. This is the best of the call. The kids are calling it the rap. What

00:04:45.180 is it? The rap, the rap. Now the 2025 rap, you get that on all your apps and stuff. Hey, here's

00:04:51.420 what you listen to. Well, I just think there's too much of that to even cover. Well, maybe we'll talk

00:04:56.820 about some of the big, maybe the major milestones and the Trump presidency is has been the second term,

00:05:03.100 probably the biggest and the most massive. Yet there were some big stories. Maybe we'll be able

00:05:11.380 to touch on some of that and look forward. Also predictions into 2026. But I'm telling you, the news

00:05:17.140 has been so prominent. It has been so aggressive. It's over the top. As a kid say, it's doing too much.

00:05:27.880 It's too much. But but it is it really it's it's been a wild, wild break. And so when Glenn comes

00:05:37.320 back, I can't imagine he's going to be just revitalized, ready to grow. And I think that's

00:05:42.620 Monday morning full of fire and fury and but well rested, tanned and the rest of it. So he'll be ready

00:05:50.380 to go with you. In the meantime, she just said it. You're trying to trying to come back and talk

00:05:57.620 about all the things that that have happened during the break. It's got to be a that's going

00:06:01.840 to be a task in itself. Carolyn just said it. White House spokesperson over on Fox and Friends this

00:06:08.460 morning, I believe, was the conversation about handcuffs and the folks involved with the Somali 0.97

00:06:16.420 pirate. Governor Walz is completely incompetent. He always has been. And President Trump has 0.97

00:06:21.460 long called him out for his incompetence and his poor leadership in the great state of Minnesota.

00:06:27.340 I want to commend Nick Shirley for his incredible video in real journalism that went viral this past

00:06:34.140 week. He epitomizes what new media looks like. And that's exactly why we at the White House under

00:06:40.140 President Trump's direction have embraced new media journalists like Nick Shirley. We've welcomed them

00:06:45.440 in to the White House press pool. We invited Nick Shirley to brief the president. You know, all

00:06:50.280 this all of this is true. We've never seen anything like it before. I tell you, I've had invitations and

00:06:54.240 gone to the White House and never had that opportunity before as a local radio host and a podcaster,

00:07:00.980 et cetera. I mean, they really have. They've they've they've kind of taken this into a whole new

00:07:05.480 a whole new level. And they're absolutely right. And by the way, these are the folks that got elected.

00:07:10.600 If you think about it, President Trump gets elected with the strategy of going on.

00:07:17.040 Everything sort of shifted last year. I had him on probably three, maybe four times.

00:07:22.660 And then everything shifted like mid of the year last year as they move to the strategy

00:07:29.120 of going on lots of streaming shows, podcasts and things like that. And the bigger, you know,

00:07:34.060 the bigger shows. So that was very successful because you end up on shows like Joe Rogan and,

00:07:42.140 you know, Sean Ryan and obviously Glenn's show here and and podcast for him sitting down long

00:07:48.820 form conversation. And they did. They had some great conversation access to the guy that nobody

00:07:54.000 you think Joe Biden was ever going to offer that access. Kamala certainly was. She wouldn't

00:07:58.140 even she couldn't even be bothered to fly out to go on Joe Rogan show. And thus that brought the

00:08:04.300 the the the young people, I think, right along with a very, very, very upset about the way things are

00:08:10.400 going, looking at somebody who can make some changes. And he has so far again. I don't want to get too

00:08:15.100 far off track here, but she makes that point. Look at the look at the the impact you want to talk

00:08:20.420 about 2025 year in the rear. Well, take a look at the impact that new media, alternative media

00:08:28.400 has had. I mean, is mainstream media dead? It's a really good question. I don't I don't know that

00:08:36.280 it's fully, but it's on life support. People like Nick Shirley and, of course, X pushing this out

00:08:43.020 the platform, formerly Twitter, Elon Musk having a big role in that as well. Everything has changed.

00:08:48.880 That's what Elon said. You are the media now. Big, big difference. So her point is is well taken.

00:08:57.420 United States at an Antifa roundtable earlier this year. And this fraud in Governor Walz's state in

00:09:03.200 Minnesota is something the Trump administration has been working on since day one. And since Nick

00:09:08.740 Shirley's journalism really brought this issue further to light, we have surged resources across the board to

00:09:15.360 the state. So I want your audience to understand this is a top priority for the administration.

00:09:20.920 The Department of Justice, as we speak, is continuing to execute search warrants and subpoenas.

00:09:26.240 People will be in handcuffs as a result of the fraud that Governor Walz has allowed to occur for the

00:09:32.360 for many, many years. The Department of Homeland Security. Wait a minute. Roll it back. People will be

00:09:38.520 in handcuffs. People will be in handcuffs. Now, I understand because I get it. Some of you chicken

00:09:45.620 little sky is falling black pillars. I get it. I understand, too. I want to see accountability.

00:09:51.640 I want to see arrests. I want to see all of that happen. Is it happening at the speed that I'd like it

00:09:59.580 to? Probably not. I will tell you I'm a little more patient because I understand some of the

00:10:08.240 things happening behind the scenes. Some of it we're in the dark about. And I think that's

00:10:12.240 that can add to the tension here. But I am optimistic because I am I know what I know.

00:10:21.180 And it's hard to explain this, but I'm also seeing some of the things that we would like to see happen

00:10:26.380 behind the scenes. One of the things I want to just tell you this because I this hit me the other

00:10:30.900 day. You know, one of the big problems here with all of this is happening in the Senate where

00:10:36.480 President Trump's judicial appointments and some of those is these appointments that have to get made.

00:10:42.940 You got to get some. Is it possible? And you just walk down that road with me that you got to get

00:10:48.000 some of these judges in place so that you can when you do bring these cases through that you've got

00:10:54.840 good people to see them, to hear them. That's why part of the problem of the Senate right now is

00:11:04.080 essentially this this whole this whole business way they do things right now of

00:11:12.940 not approving and then they have their own. It's a it's a it's a corrupt system. We just call it what

00:11:19.100 it is. It's corrupt and it's standing in the way of getting the progress made here in the country.

00:11:22.560 And that's that's one thing that will be a big spotlight. I think there will be a big

00:11:27.720 spotlight on that coming up in the in the new year. But she said it. They're going to be arrests

00:11:34.180 made. They are coming as a result of the fraud that Governor Walz has allowed to occur for the

00:11:40.400 for many, many years. The Department of Homeland Security is conducting door to door investigations

00:11:45.940 on the ground at potential fraud sites. And they're also, of course, conducting continued

00:11:50.960 deportations of illegal aliens in Minnesota's communities. We're also not afraid to use

00:11:56.580 denaturalization. That's not boy. That's a that's a whole nother ball of wax, isn't it? Yeah.

00:12:03.320 Deportations, denaturalization, any of these folks that were caught breaking the law, being a put just 1.00

00:12:08.600 send them back. They've been here for 20 years. Send it doesn't matter. Send them back. Send them

00:12:15.300 to jail. Send them back. Teeth is what we're talking about here, folks. Teeth in in in what 0.93

00:12:23.580 needs to needs to occur. We've got accountability. It's coming through. Meanwhile, there are calls

00:12:28.760 for Walz to step down. We're going to talk about that coming up in the program as well from folks

00:12:34.860 who are actually making that call. Big news yesterday as well. They've frozen all child

00:12:41.420 care payments to the state of Minnesota, HHS, at the leadership of the president. Of course,

00:12:46.760 RFK Jr., the secretary there, Health and Human Services. They've come together with a statement

00:12:52.600 yesterday talking about this. So, in other words, the money stopped flowing until we get this

00:12:57.600 business sorted out, folks. Hello. I'm HHS Deputy Secretary Jim O'Neill. I'm here with

00:13:02.740 Assistant Secretary Alex Adams. Alex oversees the Administration for Children and Families.

00:13:08.480 Intrepid journalists have made shocking, incredible allegations of extensive fraud in Minnesota's

00:13:13.200 child care programs. We believe the state of Minnesota has allowed scammers and fake daycares

00:13:18.160 to siphon millions of taxpayer dollars over the past decade. Can you imagine the Somali pirate 1.00

00:13:24.320 daycare? Can you imagine this would have ever been a thing? Fake cares is what I call them.

00:13:30.660 Fake daycares. They normally send about $185 million in child care funds to Minnesota annually.

00:13:38.300 They are cutting off the payments now. These, by the way, these new rules are going into effect.

00:13:44.640 It looks like nationwide for some of these programs for all ACF payments. Now, this is massive

00:13:53.980 because, and by the way, what are the new rules? We'll talk about that here in a second. But this

00:13:59.400 is massive because it's not just Minnesota. And I've been making that clear. I think we're just

00:14:06.180 looking at the tip of the iceberg here. It's not just Minnesota. We've heard Ohio and Massachusetts.

00:14:11.860 I think Maine was mentioned the other day. I think state after, there would be no state

00:14:16.900 after it's all said and done with. I think when you start to really turn over all of these stunts,

00:14:22.260 there'll be no state that's left incorrupted, incorruptible. Is that the word? Is that what

00:14:28.840 I'm looking at? There'll be no state left without any of the shenanigans going on.

00:14:32.720 But that's, unfortunately, I just think it's everywhere. I think it's pervasive. I think

00:14:41.180 this is one of those situations that you're talking about just, you've really just sort

00:14:49.200 of barely, barely begun to scratch the surface of it all. We'll talk more about that coming

00:14:55.420 up this morning. If you join the program, you can. Love to hear from you. Email me,

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00:15:14.440 today, filling in for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program. Back right after this, 60 seconds.

00:15:20.840 The older I get, the more I think about trust. I think about the people in my life who have my trust

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00:16:20.960 Finally, you see this, they finally fixed the sign, the quality leering center, or they're in the

00:16:38.840 process of trying to fix it anyway. They patched it up, and this whole thing is just a laugh. Anyway,

00:16:46.000 one of the daycares where there were no kids. Now they claim the kids don't start coming in until two,

00:16:50.240 and then they leave eventually at 10, and that's been a whole bone of contention because now,

00:16:56.280 you know, Democrats and other folks in the media out there say, well, no, no, no, no, no. You got

00:17:00.440 this all wrong. In fact, you won't believe what Tim Walz is saying about the whole thing. Well,

00:17:05.540 you probably will. He's calling it political, and yeah, that's a whole nother. We'll get into that

00:17:12.760 coming up here in just a little bit. But first, I want to give you the rest of the story,

00:17:16.980 as I say with this HHS announcement. Big changes coming, not just for Minnesota,

00:17:22.120 but for all states, really. My office, ACF, provides Minnesota $185 million in child care

00:17:27.960 funds each year. That money should be helping 19,000 American children, including toddlers and

00:17:33.380 infants. Any dollar stolen by fraudsters is stolen from those children. Yesterday, I spoke directly

00:17:40.140 with the director of the Minnesota Child Care Services office. She could not tell me with confidence

00:17:44.940 whether those allegations of fraud are isolated or whether there's fraud stretching statewide.

00:17:49.540 Well, I mean, come on. Today, we've taken three direct actions against the blatant fraud

00:17:55.800 that seems to be rampant in Minnesota. First, I've activated our defend the spend system for all

00:18:02.200 ACF child care payments across America. Starting today, we require a justification receipt

00:18:07.880 or photo evidence before we make a payment.

00:18:10.520 Wow. That's... Now, you... I don't know about you, but you hear this and you're going to think to

00:18:16.780 yourself, now, why? This sounds pretty common sense. Why weren't we doing this? You know,

00:18:21.320 when Elon went in with Doge and was digging into everything, they found all of this money,

00:18:26.260 like federal money, and once a spigot... We were leaking like the Titanic.

00:18:31.220 Once a spigot was turned on, they had no idea, in some places, why, where that money was supposed

00:18:39.260 to be even. There's no way to even track it. It was just turned on, and these payments were just

00:18:44.040 automatically going out monthly or quarterly or whatever it might be. You... Stop the bleeding.

00:18:52.480 How do you even... How do you even... Doge tried to do some of it. They've now given the opportunity

00:18:59.000 to the administration. Really excuse to be able to do it here in every case.

00:19:03.400 Hey, prove... Prove that... That you're... This is legit, and you'll get the money.

00:19:10.040 Second, I've just signed and sent a demand letter to Governor Walz.

00:19:14.220 I required a full 360 review of these centers. This includes attendance records, licenses,

00:19:20.420 complaints, investigations, and inspections.

00:19:22.500 And third, we've launched a dedicated fraud reporting hotline and email address at

00:19:27.560 childcare.gov. Whether you're a parent, a provider, a member of the public, we want to

00:19:32.260 hear from you. Let me be crystal clear. ACF expects every state to uphold the highest standards

00:19:38.000 of oversight, monitoring, and accountability for federal dollars.

00:19:41.420 I mean, that's just it. There is and has been no oversight. And you would say, how could

00:19:46.220 they get away with this? And I would tell you, this isn't the failed system. This is the

00:19:52.680 function of the system. This is exactly how it is supposed to operate and the point of

00:20:00.460 it this entire time. That is why we are in the mess that we're in. You have a class of

00:20:06.020 people. The elites. Now, this isn't completely... It's not one-sided altogether with Democrats.

00:20:15.900 I can tell you the difference between the two, but it's not one-sided altogether with

00:20:19.740 the Democrats. Republicans, deep staters on both sides have been involved with this. And

00:20:24.400 why I call it deep? Well, just people that they make their living doing this. All they

00:20:29.200 do is suck the government teeth. I mean, this is what they do. They serve no other purpose. 0.99

00:20:37.540 They create nothing. All they do is take. They're takers. That's it. Now, I'm not talking

00:20:41.020 about people all the way down at the bottom. In some cases, there are those people too.

00:20:44.700 But what I'm talking about are the big fish, the whales. These are the people that have

00:20:50.820 embedded it. They are leeches in the system. They are ticks, and they've got to be cut off. 0.92

00:20:55.780 We do need to see people in jail for this. That is the accountability. As Carolyn Leavitt

00:20:59.940 has said, you will see handcuffs coming out of this. It's on the way. More on the story.

00:21:05.600 In fact, I would tell you there's some things that Tim Walls is saying himself I want to get

00:21:09.960 into coming up in the program today. But also this. What a story. There is a reporter

00:21:17.280 for Politico. Because one of the things that's been interesting to watch about this isn't

00:21:21.300 just the story itself. It's that, yes, that is interesting. Let's dig into it. But the

00:21:26.620 reaction of the story and the reaction of media to the story. And one of the most interesting

00:21:33.280 things I've seen is local media is starting to pick up the ball and run with it. They actually

00:21:36.960 start to do their jobs. Now, in some cases, you can't completely blame these people that

00:21:41.580 these people have been cut local television stations, newspapers all over the country

00:21:45.620 because the business model just doesn't work anymore. So they don't have as many people

00:21:48.780 on the rolls. They're doing the jobs that they should be. These are the folks that should

00:21:53.680 be doing the investigative journal. All they do, really, at this point is they farm out

00:21:57.800 everything that's already been done for the work that's already been done for them at the

00:22:01.820 network level. So they're starting to see that. Another reaction which I thought was

00:22:08.220 just wild and evil altogether is a reporter with Politico that was encouraging Somalis to 1.00

00:22:14.960 shoot investigative reporters knocking on the doors of the daycare centers. A story that's

00:22:24.040 wild, almost unbelievable if you don't know who we're up against. We'll get to that on the

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00:24:11.940 Yeah, we were just talking about this off the air. Apparently, Black Eyed Peas after the ball drops is the thing. 0.99

00:24:20.480 Asked me, did you do that? Do you do that? And BJ said he does it every year. And I go, I can't. No, I can't even count on the amount.

00:24:29.880 I'm not a black eyed pea guy. I am a cornbread guy. So usually when I've had the black eyed piece, I've had the cornbread with it. But it's just not something that we do. Now, maybe that's because we're Yankees. And it's only it's. Is it only a southern thing? I don't know.

00:24:45.740 So, you know, later on the show, we should open up and maybe we can hear from you. And I mean, it's a good idea. Maybe you could tell me. Justin at JustinBarkley.com. Or give us a call. Let us know. What do you. What is it? Is it? Is it something that you're going to be doing? Is there some sort of tradition or whatnot when the ball drops?

00:25:04.180 I don't. I'm not. I just. I very rarely make it to the ball. I think I will this year, but I very rarely make it to the ball dropping anymore.

00:25:15.760 That's kind of like I think there was. Well, I've seen it all. I've seen it. It's kind of amateur night. And that's the way I look at it. But at the end of the day, and I don't really have a lot of.

00:25:25.760 I don't have a lot of those superstitions and things that I do, but I think it'll be an interesting. It is interesting to hear from you anyway. All right, folks, I wanted to talk about we were just talking about this story and my good friend James Dixon is on with us right now.

00:25:43.920 In fact, he's got a show called the James Dixon podcast. He's written for numerous publications. I won't even name them all.

00:25:52.500 But most recently, he's written for the folks in Detroit and the Detroit News and, of course, done some things at the Boston Globe. He's been all over.

00:26:00.580 I think I heard you say the other day your first piece in college was kind of a big deal for you that got you moving.

00:26:09.340 Hey, good morning, James. Welcome in. I appreciate you being here on the Glenn Beck program.

00:26:12.420 Good morning, Justin. It's great to hear your voice. And yeah, it was a real blessing.

00:26:17.860 So this was February 2006. I was a 22-year-old man. And to have the chance to have a story published in National Review was like every dream come true.

00:26:30.000 When a career is young, you need those moments of validation.

00:26:33.600 Heck, I'm 20 years older than that, and I still need moments of validation.

00:26:37.560 And when they come, you just remember them forever.

00:26:42.300 And yeah, so that was kind of the start of the journey, and here we are.

00:26:46.600 The reason I bring that up, James, is because there's a story, and I saw you comment about this on Axe, and I felt very similar.

00:26:55.060 But it's just this whole thing in Minnesota. In fact, everything that Trump does really exposes people for who they are, but particularly folks in the media.

00:27:05.220 And I know you've been very critical. You've been very outspoken about it.

00:27:08.220 And somebody set this up to share that James is somebody that's been inside the belly of the beast.

00:27:13.100 He knows how the sausage is made. We'll pull the curtain back for you and tell you about, in fact, has no problem doing that, tell you about who these people are and what they're doing.

00:27:23.620 But this story, to me, it should be a surprise, but it's not anymore.

00:27:28.720 A legal reporter for Politico, in fact, I thought the best part was how much he got roasted for what he said online, made shocking comments, essentially saying that if Nick Shirley or any investigative reporter knocks on the door of a Somali daycare or any other place being investigated, that those folks ought to shoot him.

00:27:53.000 I mean, that's the way I took the comments.

00:27:55.880 Well, that's exactly the way it was written.

00:27:57.880 And when you think about the wording of the tweet, right, Josh Gerstein talks about, oh, amateurs knocking on doors.

00:28:06.400 Well, amateurs as opposed to what, right?

00:28:09.280 The implication is that the professionals, they're not doing the job.

00:28:15.580 The pros aren't doing the job.

00:28:17.680 And so what they're saying is nobody should be doing the work.

00:28:20.440 This makes more sense when you understand journalists to be synonymous with communists.

00:28:24.880 Because those streams run right next to each other these days.

00:28:29.520 It wasn't always this way, but there's always been a strain of fake news that's paired with the news, even with on the same page, even within the same sentence or story.

00:28:41.900 And so we always have to be aware.

00:28:44.320 But this is new.

00:28:45.540 This is new.

00:28:46.280 This is not just, you know, being critical of what's reported.

00:28:50.240 Essentially, Josh Gerstein is saying, hey, if someone were, you know, nice career you have there, Nick Shirley.

00:28:56.780 Shame if someone, if something were to happen.

00:28:59.440 Shame if you were to be attacked.

00:29:01.500 And stand your ground laws.

00:29:03.100 Do not in Florida, Michigan, or anywhere mean that you can just shoot someone through a door.

00:29:08.820 A senior legal reporter at Politico would obviously know that.

00:29:12.220 Well, he said it anyway.

00:29:14.620 You would hope so.

00:29:15.460 Here's the tweet, or the post on X, word for word.

00:29:19.840 Quote, at some point, the amateur effort to knock on doors of home daycares intersects with robust stand your ground laws.

00:29:28.380 End quote.

00:29:28.980 Now, there's a couple things wrong with that.

00:29:31.380 Legally, that's just not true.

00:29:33.720 It's completely off base.

00:29:35.560 And secondly, these aren't home daycares.

00:29:39.780 These are small businesses, professional, supposedly, with signs out front that are misspelled and everything else.

00:29:48.120 So it's just wild to see this because he completely gets it wrong in every aspect of the post.

00:29:54.620 Now, from what I understand, it's still up.

00:29:57.160 Has he backtracked on this at all?

00:30:00.180 Oh, no.

00:30:00.620 He tried to explain further that I don't mean this should happen.

00:30:03.700 I'm just saying it could happen. 1.00

00:30:06.100 And the problem with journalism is that journalists are stupid but think they are smart. 1.00

00:30:12.840 So they do. 1.00

00:30:13.740 They play little word games like this, and they think no one knows what they mean by it.

00:30:18.220 They think that their bylines are, oh, I carried this thing straightforward.

00:30:22.560 But then you go on Twitter, and you see that they're a flaming lib.

00:30:25.500 Like, they think we're unable to read the evidence and read the signals.

00:30:30.680 And we're not.

00:30:31.800 And the real problem is, in this day and age, everybody has access to the same search bar.

00:30:37.940 So a guy like Nick Shirley is a real threat because he's actually making use of it.

00:30:42.160 I saw another attempt to shoot down Shirley's report, CBS News.

00:30:46.060 They put what was clearly a house cat desk reporter.

00:30:49.480 They put him, made him stand outside a little bit in Minneapolis and essentially say he'd made a phone call and found out that a lot of these businesses weren't fraudulent.

00:30:58.380 And so your response to a guy who did man-on-the-street reporting and found hundreds of millions of dollars in fraud is to put a desk reporter outside to make it appear as if he did the same thing when all he made was as little as one phone call.

00:31:15.220 I call all of this, whether it's the veiled death threats, whether it's the fake news trying to exonerate these fraudsters, I call all of it un-journalism because these days these people aren't even motivated by a search for truth.

00:31:29.880 He's down I-75 over on Twitter, X, James Dixon, the James Dixon podcast.

00:31:37.180 You know what's wild about all of this is that these people, these local people, could have been doing the reporting themselves.

00:31:46.240 Shirley didn't just, you know, find this out of the blue.

00:31:49.980 He was approached by people in Minnesota that actually have been digging into this that said this is a real problem nobody else will cover.

00:31:59.080 Now, I don't know about you.

00:32:00.660 I have the same thing happen to me on a daily basis where I get pissed too much.

00:32:04.740 I can't deal with them all.

00:32:06.280 A lot of times I have to hand them off to different folks to see if we can get some traction.

00:32:09.800 But these people are hitting, they're hitting dead ends when they go to these news organizations.

00:32:17.180 That's why we've ended up with Nick Shirley's.

00:32:20.040 That's exactly it.

00:32:21.980 Truth is a blue lake, Justin.

00:32:24.580 It's a blue lake on an August day with not another boat on the water.

00:32:28.440 You got the whole thing to yourself because the media has become so wrapped in these narratives.

00:32:34.180 And so they're so openly rooting for the Democrat Party at this point.

00:32:39.540 I call it the Democrat Media Alliance.

00:32:42.520 And so nothing true is going to come out of that alliance.

00:32:45.280 They will only say what benefits them.

00:32:47.880 And so if they have to try to shoot down a reporter's work, they'll do it.

00:32:51.320 If they have to imply that a reporter should be shot for doing actual work, they'll do it.

00:32:56.720 Because think about it, Justin.

00:32:58.500 There's a part of us, a heart of hearts, right, that knows that we are full of it.

00:33:04.520 And so if you're a journalist and you know you don't have any scoops, you know you mostly do coverage and reheated versions of other people's work.

00:33:11.600 And you see some 23-year-old kid get the herald, get the attention, get the acclaim that you never have because you've never broken a story.

00:33:21.440 What are you going to do?

00:33:22.280 Are you going to take stock of things over this Christmas break and say, hey, I'm going to go harder.

00:33:26.640 I'm going to report the news? 0.96

00:33:28.600 Or do you say the guy should be shot and killed?

00:33:30.460 Josh Gerstein is the legal reporter there for Political that this is in question.

00:33:38.660 By the way, the story is everywhere, but we've also posted it on the stack at justinbarclay.com.

00:33:44.660 James, another story that I really wanted to cover with you originally is the story out of Michigan and what's happening with elections here.

00:33:52.680 This is a major story.

00:33:55.080 I don't think it's just Michigan, but it is potentially one of the bigger stories in 2026 as we move into such a big election year.

00:34:04.360 You've uncovered something yourself as you are digging that folks need to hear about and why this is going to matter moving into the new year and in this big election year.

00:34:15.620 We're going to talk about that coming up in just a moment.

00:34:17.400 If you can hang with us past the break, ring the alarm on it.

00:34:20.820 Coming up after this, the ghost voters, that Michigan Secretary of State, the Democrat, who's going to oversee her own election as governor, coming up this year.

00:34:34.020 Oh, I'm sure there's nothing to see here.

00:34:36.380 We'll pull the curtain back on all of it after this on the Glenn Beck program.

00:34:41.560 Back next.

00:34:42.700 Keep your powder dry and your conscience clear.

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00:36:03.900 This is what I wanted to cover.

00:36:16.280 Out of Michigan.

00:36:18.340 Fantastic reporting from James Dixon and the story about the Michigan voter rolls and what's happening here with our Secretary of State.

00:36:25.460 Why are Michigan's voter rolls so bloated?

00:36:27.340 Going into the 2024 election, Michigan had 500,000 more registered voters than we have voting age adults.

00:36:36.120 Michigan is a slow or no-growth state of 10 million people.

00:36:39.960 So how did Jocelyn Benson find 750,000 new voters just between July and October?

00:36:46.400 Shout out to Anna Hoffman for that report, by the way. 0.52

00:36:49.500 Well, she's done it before.

00:36:51.480 This might be a case of history repeating.

00:36:53.940 You remember ERIC, the Electronic Registration Information Center.

00:36:58.100 Officially, states join ERIC to compare their voter rolls and eliminate duplicates.

00:37:03.200 In reality, ERIC finds eligible but unregistered adults in each state, and member states are required to reach out to them.

00:37:10.500 We've sent Jocelyn Benson foyers for the eligible but unregistered reports that ERIC sent to Michigan.

00:37:16.340 Despite calling herself the transparency candidate, Benson has denied them.

00:37:20.240 In September 2020, using ERIC data, Benson sent postcards to 700,000 eligible but unregistered adults in Michigan.

00:37:28.800 That was almost 10% of their vote tally and a high turnout election.

00:37:32.680 In four months of 2025, Benson has added almost 10% of new people to our already fat voter rolls.

00:37:39.940 You know, this system, by the way, great report, and there's more.

00:37:43.760 I'll make sure it's posted online for you right now in the stack.

00:37:47.860 But this system, James, you probably note this, wasn't created to add people to the vote.

00:37:55.540 It was really supposedly sold to us that would help take, you know, people off of these bloated rolls.

00:38:02.940 Isn't that the way I supposedly understand this?

00:38:06.340 That's exactly it.

00:38:07.640 And so the thing of ERIC is, hey, if state A and state B have the same voter on the rolls, they talk to each other, they talk to the voter and figure out who should eliminate the voter, right?

00:38:18.880 Simple enough.

00:38:19.680 Sounds good.

00:38:20.280 But what actually happens, and the thing behind the thing on ERIC, is they send these annual reports to member states called eligible but unregistered.

00:38:30.940 A member state, unless you have a specific exemption, a member state has to then reach out to those people.

00:38:37.940 And so that's how 700,000 postcards go out on the eve of the election.

00:38:42.140 Now, what are the chances in a state that registers people to vote when they get a driver's license, when they do anything with state government, what are the chances that 10% of the voting population was found on the eve of the election, just not registered, right?

00:38:57.340 Pretty much none.

00:38:58.760 Then you look at this year, in four months, July to October, Jocelyn Benson added 700,000 people to the voter rolls in just four months.

00:39:07.300 So Gretchen Whitmer has been, our governor has been studying, you know, why is Michigan shrinking?

00:39:13.240 What can we do about population?

00:39:15.100 She should have put Jocelyn Benson in charge of the whole thing. 1.00

00:39:17.460 She's the only one who finds growth.

00:39:20.380 Incredible.

00:39:21.140 And this is a story, by the way, I don't, I, this is probably not the only place this is happening, but these are the tactics.

00:39:27.520 It's a blueprint.

00:39:28.560 It's the playbook of the Democrat Party.

00:39:31.020 And anytime, I don't, listen, I don't know this for a fact, but I just have, I don't know,

00:39:36.720 call it a gut instinct here, but this whole thing that we're seeing in Minneapolis and Minnesota and whatnot,

00:39:42.960 I guarantee it ties in to voters as well.

00:39:47.280 And we'll see this connect at some point, if that's the case.

00:39:51.540 And it's funny to me to watch it all kind of get exposed at this point, because this is the playbook.

00:39:57.720 This is how they do it.

00:39:58.580 This is why they do it.

00:39:59.480 And it's also why folks, independents, doing the actual work of journalists and journalism that should be done by the big folks,

00:40:07.500 they just, they've abdicated that position.

00:40:10.240 It's why it matters.

00:40:11.380 James Dixon over on Down I-75X and Twitter.

00:40:16.720 James Dixon, the James Dixon podcast.

00:40:18.780 Thank you, my friend, for taking the time to be here with us today and shine a light on these important,

00:40:23.820 but in fact, the president shared this video out himself.

00:40:27.520 Very cool, man.

00:40:28.500 What an honor.

00:40:29.380 Yeah.

00:40:29.780 It's incredible.

00:40:30.720 It was a middle-of-the-night tweet on Christmas morning.

00:40:34.280 It's the best Christmas gift I've ever gotten.

00:40:36.780 God is good.

00:40:37.800 And Justin, happy new year, brother.

00:40:40.060 You too.

00:40:40.740 Happy new year, James.

00:40:42.160 More coming up on the Glenn Beck program as we've got so much more to discuss today.

00:40:46.120 In fact, we've talked about some of the good things that are happening.

00:40:49.240 You know, all this bad stuff you're hearing about, there is good news.

00:40:52.660 The light's getting shone on it, and that's great.

00:40:55.220 But there are good things happening, too.

00:40:57.660 In that first year, the president's been in office, and, in fact, we've got some of the economic good news to share with you

00:41:05.060 as we continue next on the Glenn Beck program.

00:41:08.400 Join us if you like.

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00:41:15.240 Back next.

00:41:16.480 Happy new year.

00:41:17.240 This is Glenn Beck.

00:41:20.200 We'll be right back.

00:41:50.200 We'll be right back.

00:42:20.200 We'll be right back.

00:42:50.780 It's incredible to watch some of the latest numbers we've had, GDP and the inflation and all of this gearing up to make a massive move in 2026.

00:43:00.180 And that would be helpful for the midterms, at least for us.

00:43:03.660 Not for them, necessarily.

00:43:05.100 And maybe that's why they just can't stand it to see America great again.

00:43:11.420 We'll talk about that and what is on the horizon when we speak with U.S. Treasurer Brandon Beach coming up next.

00:43:19.060 This guy has a very interesting story.

00:43:22.880 In fact, he was involved with a little something that made history a couple of weeks back.

00:43:27.860 You won't want to miss it.

00:43:28.960 We're back after this.

00:43:30.460 Justin Barkley in for Glenda Day on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:32.640 The older I get, the more I think about trust.

00:43:40.740 I think about the people in my life who have my trust and earned my trust.

00:43:44.940 And the trust that I have placed in some people who I later learned abused that trust.

00:43:49.380 I know we're alike in that way.

00:43:51.100 We don't trust a lot of people anymore.

00:43:52.940 It's like we're all Ronald Reagan trust, but always verify to make sure we're not making a mistake.

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00:44:37.960 You can imagine politically it's not great for Democrats.

00:44:46.440 Nobody thought he'd get elected again.

00:44:48.340 Nobody thought he'd be able to turn things around the way he is.

00:44:52.040 Things are already moving in big ways.

00:44:53.900 We just named a couple of those.

00:44:54.960 I want to talk about what's on the way in the horizon here for the economy moving into the new year.

00:45:00.840 6.18% 30-year fixed mortgage.

00:45:03.720 That's down.

00:45:04.640 3% shelter inflation, 2.7% overall inflation, down a little bit.

00:45:10.500 But the GDP number there, the last one, 4.3%, booming.

00:45:15.920 Yeah, you know, these numbers, I think it's sometimes...

00:45:19.480 Lots of green on the screen, by the way, here.

00:45:21.660 The Trump economy in review 2025, by the way, that was the name of that segment.

00:45:26.020 And the numbers on Fox & Friends, as they look back in this last year, what the president's already been able to accomplish and what is ahead into the new year and more.

00:45:37.640 We've heard lots of interesting reports on this.

00:45:42.400 In fact, I wanted to talk with U.S. Treasurer Brandon Beach about some of this.

00:45:45.600 You'll know him for something that is one of the most interesting things, I think, maybe in the history-making, in the history of the country.

00:45:54.260 We'll talk about that in just a moment.

00:45:57.240 He was part of, in fact, there, he meant it, the last penny ever.

00:46:03.500 And it just went up for auction.

00:46:05.340 We'll talk about who bought it and how much it sold for coming up in a moment, too.

00:46:09.860 But, Mr. Treasurer, thank you so much for being here with us today.

00:46:13.260 Really appreciate you taking the time.

00:46:15.360 Well, Justin, thanks for having me, and Happy New Year to you and your listeners.

00:46:20.120 You know, 2026 is going to be a great year.

00:46:22.840 You know, when you look at what the president's done, we've laid the foundation in 2025 with what Secretary Besson and he have both done on tariffs and, you know, having an even playing field from a standpoint there.

00:46:39.080 And then when you see the big, beautiful bill, when it kicks in with the tax cuts and the refunds, and I think interest rates are going to continue to drop.

00:46:47.060 And as you said earlier in your program, I just paid $2.21 a gallon for gas the other day.

00:46:53.360 Gas prices are going to continue to come down.

00:46:55.680 And I think we're going to have a really great 2026.

00:46:58.560 The other thing that I think people aren't really thinking about is what we're going to do from a tourism standpoint in 2026.

00:47:04.860 You've got World Cup coming to our country.

00:47:07.960 You're going to – in Atlanta, for example, we're going to have eight games, and that's like four Super Bowls from an economic impact standpoint.

00:47:15.300 So that's going to be big for our country, plus it's going to showcase our country for future economic development.

00:47:21.760 So I'm really excited about World Cup also, and we're doing the coins for World Cup, the U.S. Menace, and that's going to be a fun project we've been working on.

00:47:30.440 Yeah, we've got to talk about some of these coins here in just a second.

00:47:33.060 This is from the secretary talking about what you just mentioned, which is the massive tax cuts and what that means as money really starts to flow in 2026 and what that's going to mean for your pocket and our economy.

00:47:46.480 What we are going to see next year that if you think about the signature parts of the tax bill,

00:47:54.880 I think that the most powerful parts had the immediate expensing for American business, permanent for equipment, and then four- or five-year window for factories.

00:48:11.620 So we are already seeing a CapEx boom.

00:48:15.340 So 2025 was a CapEx boom.

00:48:17.880 I think that is going to accelerate with all the trade deals we've done.

00:48:21.340 I was just about six weeks ago in my hometown of Charleston, South Carolina.

00:48:26.480 Boeing, the largest employer there, is increasing their plant by 50% for the Dreamliners, a result of the trade deals, but it's also part of the tax deal.

00:48:38.440 So we're going to continue seeing this CapEx boom that turns into an employment boom.

00:48:42.600 On the other side, for working Americans, the president, I led the administration's team up on the hill in terms of what was non-negotiable for the president.

00:48:59.120 And a lot of traditional Republicans didn't like his campaign promises to working Americans.

00:49:05.420 And the president never yielded on this, so no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, deductibility of auto loans for American-made cars.

00:49:15.120 So the bill was done on July 4th.

00:49:18.580 It's retroactive to the beginning of the year for working Americans, retroactive to January 20th for corporates.

00:49:26.080 So working Americans, I also have the honor of being the IRS commissioner, and I can see that we're going to have a gigantic refund year in the first quarter because no one changed their, working Americans did not change their withholding.

00:49:42.560 So I think households could see, depending on the number of workers, $1,000, $2,000 refunds, they will change their withholding schedule at the beginning of the year, and they will get an automatic increase in real wages.

00:49:59.220 So I think that's going to be a very, I think that's going to be a very powerful combo.

00:50:05.160 That's incredible.

00:50:05.740 And if you can understand this, that was the Secretary of the Treasury, and we've got U.S. Treasurer Brandon Beach with us right now.

00:50:11.720 What he's saying is a couple things.

00:50:13.120 Well, I'll tell you, Secretary Besson has done a great job.

00:50:16.580 I mean, you look at what he's done on tariffs, but also in the big, beautiful bill, he played a major part in that.

00:50:22.760 And we're going to see the fruits of that with those refunds, like he said.

00:50:26.480 So that's going to be big.

00:50:28.240 I was talking to a waitress last night at the restaurant, and she's looking forward to doing her W-2 and not having to pay taxes on tips.

00:50:35.740 That money will go in her pocket. 0.95

00:50:38.420 This is incredible, because he said not only do you have the business piece, which is, I think, going to be big for jobs, as he mentioned,

00:50:44.240 but the other side of that, as you said, was the tax on tips.

00:50:48.640 People have not adjusted, so they're going to get big refunds.

00:50:53.980 And then when they do adjust, because they realize they need to do this at the beginning of the year,

00:50:58.120 they're going to have more money in their paycheck, in their actual paycheck.

00:51:02.960 This is incredible.

00:51:05.740 Well, and, Justin, I don't know if you read in the Wall Street Journal just the other day that there's over a trillion dollars of construction

00:51:13.220 just on data centers alone in the United States going on right now.

00:51:17.480 That's just construction on data centers. 0.83

00:51:19.160 That's not other manufacturing facilities that are going on, all these jobs coming back to America.

00:51:25.780 The construction industry is booming right now.

00:51:28.080 And then in 18 months, we'll see permanent manufacturing jobs anywhere from 12 to 18 months from now after the construction is done.

00:51:35.500 The economy is going to be booming in this 2026.

00:51:40.040 It's going to really be on fire, especially, like you said, the GDP at 4.3 percent, the money flowing, the construction jobs.

00:51:48.080 You know, I just think we're going to be doing very well, and interest rates continuing dropping.

00:51:53.560 And then what Doug Burgum and Chris Wright are doing with energy, not only independence, but energy dominance, you're going to see the fruits of that.

00:52:02.200 And when, you know, energy costs come down, transportation costs come down, food costs come down, you're going to see a lot of movement in the next six months.

00:52:11.700 So we've looked at some of these pieces here.

00:52:15.300 Obviously, this is what we can expect, obviously, what the president has done in the first year, what we can expect in the next year.

00:52:22.760 But I want to talk about some of the other things that are happening, too.

00:52:26.500 In fact, Secretary Beach with us right now has made history, and I got a chance to talk to you.

00:52:31.760 I think before the auction happened, he was involved in, meant this last penny.

00:52:38.500 So we're done with pennies, but they've auctioned this thing off now, and I'd love for you to tell us a little bit about how much it went for, millions and millions of dollars, and who actually bought it.

00:52:49.240 As far as I know, Glenn likes to get in on these auctions.

00:52:52.700 I don't think Glenn bought the penny.

00:52:54.420 I don't think it's Glenn Beck's penny, but somebody else did.

00:52:57.300 This is fantastic, though.

00:52:59.400 Well, I can tell you it was historic, and I've been fortunate as a state senator and now as treasurer to do a lot of really great things, cool things.

00:53:07.340 And unique things, and I will tell you, when I held that last penny, I took a deep breath, and I realized what was happening here.

00:53:16.280 This was the last penny that we were going to strike in the history of our country, and it was a very neat opportunity to do that.

00:53:25.820 And we did it because it was part of President Trump's common sense policies.

00:53:31.260 The penny, before COVID, we did 9.2 billion pennies a year.

00:53:37.760 We produced, last year we only did 2 billion.

00:53:40.760 So the demand went down, and yet the cost tripled.

00:53:44.440 It was costing us 4 or 4.5 cents to produce a penny.

00:53:49.160 And, you know, President Trump just said that's not the right thing to do, and he's right.

00:53:54.060 And it's going to save the taxpayers $56 million annually by eliminating the penny.

00:53:59.760 Now, let me be clear.

00:54:01.020 The penny's still in existence.

00:54:02.700 It's still in circulation.

00:54:04.020 There's 300 billion.

00:54:05.340 It's still legal tender.

00:54:06.860 We're just not producing anymore.

00:54:09.200 Now, what we did, we thought we would get $5 million for the penny when we auctioned it off.

00:54:13.880 We decided to auction it off.

00:54:15.580 We got $16.7 million.

00:54:18.880 You know, the president was very excited about that.

00:54:21.480 He said that that shows the Trump policies are working.

00:54:24.820 When someone can spend $16.7 million for a penny, things are good.

00:54:29.940 So we were very excited to do that and auction that penny off.

00:54:35.080 But that's the reason we eliminated the penny.

00:54:37.140 It is wild to think of how long we were doing it, and it really doesn't make a lot of sense when it comes to talking about the things in government these days.

00:54:48.080 And, of course, that's been one of the, I think, the core of what the president has really tried to do, and we've seen the results of that, is get back to common sense.

00:54:57.780 We've been so far removed from it for so long.

00:55:02.160 Right.

00:55:02.700 And we're looking at everything.

00:55:03.860 We're looking at the nickel.

00:55:04.640 We've got a bill in the legislature, in the Congress now, to look at going to a different alloy so we can save money there on the cost of production of the nickel.

00:55:14.340 So we're looking at everything to make sure that we are doing the best job for the taxpayers of the country and making sure that we're doing common sense policy.

00:55:24.140 Now, you just mentioned some other coins.

00:55:26.960 We've got U.S. Treasurer Brandon Beach with us right now.

00:55:29.020 And you just mentioned some other coins.

00:55:31.500 You talked about World Cup coins, but I saw there's some other coins that are being talked about as well.

00:55:36.600 We've got the 250th birthday here in the country.

00:55:39.640 That's another one you're looking at as well.

00:55:41.120 That's going to be a big one for folks.

00:55:42.220 We did some special coins, and what we're doing there is just like I talked to somebody the other day that still has their bicentennial coins that they got in 1976, and they've kept them.

00:55:53.200 And we've done that with – we've got some quarters, a dime, and a half dollar, and we're just – what we're trying to do is talk about our Constitution, our independence, our early governance, you know, talk about liberty and, you know, just the things that we are lucky to have here in this country, and also, you know, use it as a tool to teach young people, you know, just how we came to the history of this country.

00:56:21.500 And so what we're doing is we have those, but also I want to talk to you about another coin, the Trump dollar coin.

00:56:29.660 As you know, the president, we're working on a coin with him, President Trump on the front, and then on the back, we're working on the back of the coin.

00:56:38.920 He cannot be on the back, but he can be on the front, and we will have that.

00:56:42.320 We should have that design done in the next 10 days, and I'll get with Secretary Besant, and we'll approve it, and we will move forward and go into production.

00:56:50.560 And you will see a Trump dollar coin hopefully in the next 10 weeks in circulation, and it will be legal tender.

00:56:57.000 It will be a dollar coin of legal tender.

00:57:00.100 So I'm excited about that project too.

00:57:02.680 How do the – I'm sure people are going to run it, like – obviously it's worth a dollar, but it'll be worth even more because people want those.

00:57:10.840 How will people be able to get them when they come out?

00:57:13.560 Is there a process for that?

00:57:14.900 I mean, I –

00:57:15.520 No, it'll just be like getting a dime or a quarter.

00:57:18.820 I mean, we'll put them in circulation through the Federal Reserve.

00:57:21.840 They'll go to the banks, and you can go get – just like you can go to the bank and get dollar bills, you can go get a dollar coin.

00:57:27.900 It'll be in circulation.

00:57:30.140 I love that.

00:57:31.640 I'm sure we'll have to mint a lot of them because a lot of people are going to want them.

00:57:37.780 But it is going to be legal tender, and it's going to be a great thing for our country.

00:57:41.960 I came about this idea – when the president called me and appointed me, I wanted to do a $250 bill for him for the 250-year anniversary with his picture on it.

00:57:52.320 But I didn't realize you had to be deceased to be on a currency, paper currency.

00:57:57.040 You do not have to be deceased to be on a dollar coin.

00:58:00.480 So that's why we went with the coin.

00:58:02.120 Now, we still are pursuing the $250 bill.

00:58:05.000 There's a bill that Congressman Joe Wilson from South Carolina has.

00:58:09.740 It's in French Hill's committee.

00:58:11.640 It's passed out of subcommittee.

00:58:13.060 It's in committee, full committee, and we're hoping to get that passed out of the House to allow the president to be on the $250 bill for the 250-year celebration.

00:58:23.380 So we're working on that, but that does take legislation, and we're going to work on that.

00:58:29.260 U.S. Treasurer, we appreciate playing the beach bandwagon.

00:58:32.460 Thank you for taking the time during the holiday here to come on and talk with us and share.

00:58:37.840 I know folks are going to be looking forward to all those things in the coming of the new year, especially what a year for the 250th anniversary of the founding of this country.

00:58:48.520 It's going to be a spectacular celebration.

00:58:52.180 Well, let me tell you this, if I could.

00:58:54.900 I was fortunate enough to be involved in President Trump's campaign here in Georgia, where I'm from, and I got to know him.

00:59:03.740 And I can tell you that it didn't take me long to figure out he loves our country.

00:59:07.040 He loves and respects law enforcement and the military, but what he really loves is capitalism.

00:59:13.740 And I've heard him talk about the Golden Age economy several times, and I can tell you this.

00:59:19.120 He wants you, your kids, and your grandkids to be able to pursue the American dream.

00:59:24.240 And he also realizes, and I realized this when I was in the State Senate, government does not create jobs.

00:59:30.280 The private sector does.

00:59:31.360 But what we can do as a government is create a conducive environment through fair trade, the tariffs, low taxes, less regulation, provide an educated workforce, and provide infrastructure, both roads, bridges, and 21st century infrastructure, the right fiber, the right cell towers, the right satellites, the right AI.

00:59:51.340 And if we do those things and get out of the way, we will have economic prosperity, and you will be able to pursue the American dream.

00:59:59.400 And, you know, you've heard the president talk a lot about having a Golden Age economy in every zip code in this country.

01:00:05.080 And that's what he wants to do.

01:00:06.760 And we're going to lay the foundation and the groundwork so that people can pursue the American dream.

01:00:13.120 You know, we are so blessed to live in this country.

01:00:15.820 And I'm sick and tired of people talking bad about the United States.

01:00:19.800 And you look at – I'm going to give you two examples.

01:00:23.440 Jeff Sprecher, I don't know if you know who he is.

01:00:25.600 He came to Atlanta 30-plus years ago with $1,000 and started the Intercontinental Exchange.

01:00:31.560 Now he owns the New York Stock Exchange.

01:00:33.840 He owns several exchanges.

01:00:35.680 He's a billionaire.

01:00:37.440 That only happens in America.

01:00:40.040 Another story, Todd Graves.

01:00:42.480 He wanted to open a restaurant, couldn't get a bank loan, goes out on the oil rigs, works a couple years on time and a half and double time, saves $40,000.

01:00:50.560 Now he owns Raisin Cane's, and he's worth $22 billion.

01:00:54.520 That only happens in America.

01:00:57.120 And we want people to be able to have economic opportunity and be able to pursue the American dream.

01:01:03.580 And that's what the big, beautiful bill's about.

01:01:06.220 That's what our common sense policies are about.

01:01:09.300 And that's what we're going to do to really create that opportunity for you, your kids, and your grandkids.

01:01:16.280 Because we want success.

01:01:18.280 And there's nothing wrong with make America great again.

01:01:21.060 There's nothing wrong with success and people making money and having prosperity.

01:01:26.180 Yes, Treasurer Brandon Beach.

01:01:27.620 I couldn't have said it better myself.

01:01:28.660 Thank you, sir.

01:01:29.200 Really appreciate you being here with us.

01:01:30.620 Thank you for taking the time, and Happy New Year.

01:01:33.840 Happy New Year to you and your listeners.

01:01:35.720 Thank you very much.

01:01:36.600 You got it.

01:01:37.200 God bless.

01:01:37.780 Coming up next, more bad news for Tim Walls.

01:01:40.580 And this time, we're talking charges?

01:01:43.480 Back after this, 60 seconds on the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:03:07.680 She's a Speaker of the House in Minnesota, so she knows a thing or two about what's going on in that state.

01:03:13.160 Running for governor, and she joins us after this. 0.97

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01:05:02.980 We filed a formal criminal complaint against Tim Walz for violating Minnesota Statute 3.971, Subdivision 9.

01:05:11.400 When did you do that?

01:05:12.160 Uh, three or four weeks ago.

01:05:15.540 Recently.

01:05:16.540 Recently, yeah.

01:05:17.760 So there's an investigation ongoing, and I think Tim's going to have a bad day, and he deserves it.

01:05:24.300 Because he allowed this fraud, because he wanted the voting bloc that the Somalis represent, because they all vote in a bloc, and it's 100,000, 150,000, who knows how many.

01:05:36.900 Um, but it's, it's so bad now that when we go to a facility, they're already screaming, Nick Shirley, Nick Shirley, Nick Shirley.

01:05:46.740 It is, uh, that's David, by the way, the man who, I think, tipped Nick Shirley off to all of this that's happening in Minnesota.

01:05:54.140 He's the one that's been ringing the alarm for, I think, quite some time.

01:05:56.660 This is, if you're from Minnesota, by the way, all of us are learning about this now, or have learned about it here very recently.

01:06:03.980 Uh, but if you're from Minnesota, none of this is, none of this is new.

01:06:09.340 Uh, it's news, but it's not new.

01:06:12.000 Let me put it that way and talk more about that and the no good, very bad day that Tim Walls is having over the last several days, and probably going to get even worse.

01:06:21.700 Speaker of the Minnesota House and running for governor as a Republican, Lisa DeMuth, joins us right now.

01:06:27.760 Lisa, thank you for taking the time.

01:06:29.060 Uh, this is, this is all starting to heat up, and I know you're very aware of it, and, well, I'm sure you've got some stories to tell.

01:06:38.080 I do.

01:06:39.060 Good morning, Justin.

01:06:40.040 Thanks for having this conversation with me.

01:06:43.120 Fraud in Minnesota is not new to, I would say, Republicans here in the state of Minnesota.

01:06:49.180 Some of our Democrat colleagues right now, as more has come out over the weekend through this viral video by Nick Shirley, seem to be surprised by it, including some of the commissioners on Governor Walz's staff.

01:07:03.120 But it is not new, but it has exploded over the last seven years, specifically, under the administration of Governor Walz.

01:07:13.600 Well, it was, I mean, this, this seems like it's, it's, it's getting to the point where it's like completely obvious.

01:07:20.580 What was the plan here?

01:07:22.100 They just, they just throw it all to the wall and, or the walls here and let us see what, whatever sticks.

01:07:27.720 I mean, I, I, to me, it's, it's blatant, it's obvious, and it's almost like they just never thought they would ever get caught.

01:07:35.180 That is exactly right.

01:07:36.760 And the U.S. Attorney's Office has given assistance here in Minnesota.

01:07:42.420 We had one of the largest COVID frauds feeding our future was the company, supposed company, feeding kids during the pandemic.

01:07:51.920 It is proven that $250 million of fraud went out just in that case.

01:07:59.880 The U.S. Assistant Attorney, Joe Thompson, has said in a news conference a couple of weeks ago that fraud in Minnesota is at an industrial scale level, and it will probably be about $9 billion.

01:08:13.980 Justin, those are Minnesota tax dollars, but also federal tax dollars of theft from everyone in the United States, and including those of us in Minnesota.

01:08:24.820 You know, and I think one of the things that people miss, because obviously we're outraged by this, and anybody who, you know, is honest about it when you're looking at this, you ought to be outraged by it.

01:08:36.380 But I think the thing that we probably miss the most out of this is that when this type of thing happens, because, you know, we want to do the right thing, we do want to help people.

01:08:46.620 And I'm sure, you know, in Minnesota, as nice as you all are, you want to do the right thing.

01:08:51.460 You want to help as many people as you can, but you really want to do it the right way.

01:08:56.100 And when you find out this type of thing is happening, it actually hurts more than anything the people who are the most vulnerable.

01:09:02.480 It definitely hurts those, and what we have said is every dollar that goes out in fraud means that that dollar did not make its way to the people that need it the most, and it was stolen from family budgets.

01:09:15.720 I think people that are working very hard, just making ends meet, and then find out that their dollars that were supposed to go to help people were spent in fraud, we won't recover the bulk of those dollars back.

01:09:30.100 Fraud in Minnesota needs to end now, and we're finally getting the attention that it is needed.

01:09:36.840 We've been fighting this fight for my entire seven years in the legislature, but Democrat control has blocked it at every single turn.

01:09:46.260 She's a Speaker of the House now, she's a Republican there in Minnesota, running for governor, at least the move is right now. 1.00

01:09:51.200 Here's a post from Stephen Miller, President's Advisor, earlier this morning on Axe.

01:09:56.180 What if I told you our national debt is the tab for the mass looting of the American economy and the mass theft of the American dream?

01:10:06.660 In other words, one of the reasons why we see such a massive debt and that everyone is chained to and our kids and our grandkids here in this country is because of this very fraud, this looting that's happening.

01:10:20.100 It's at least part of it, absolutely, and that is a wrong thing to do.

01:10:26.060 You know, as we have tried to, over my time in the legislature, put forward bills, and it's important for your listeners, Justin, to realize that there has been Democrat control in the state here in Minnesota for much too long.

01:10:40.280 We tied the House of Representatives just this last election in 2024, that is what allowed me to become Speaker, and I established the Fraud Prevention and Agency Oversight Committee.

01:10:52.960 The way that I was able to do that is for a short period of time, even though we originally were tied with the Democrats in the House,

01:11:00.680 they supported a fraudster that didn't live in his district, that the court struck down and could not take office.

01:11:09.480 So for the period of time where Republicans in the House in Minnesota had 67 members, the Democrats were down to just 66 because they supported fraud in an election.

01:11:20.980 I was able to establish the Fraud Prevention Committee, become the Speaker of the House, and we put forward bills, even if we couldn't get them passed.

01:11:29.600 They've been tabled, ready to go to combat a number of these things when we return back into session in February.

01:11:37.560 So Democrats in Minnesota have protected and promoted fraud for years.

01:11:42.980 Lisa DeMuth with us right now, she's the Speaker of the House, running for governor right now in Minnesota. 0.93

01:11:48.100 So let's talk about what we do to stop this because we're already seeing, and this is going to be a whole other issue altogether, I would think,

01:11:57.720 not just for Minnesota but for other states, it shouldn't be, if everything is above board, it should be, everything should be from it.

01:12:03.900 We've heard that Health and Human Services has had to freeze now any of the funds coming into not just the state but looking at doing this in all states

01:12:12.380 because of this massive amount of fraud.

01:12:16.180 So the money stopped flowing in right away.

01:12:20.160 Obviously, it looks like they say taking in the state $185 million in child care funds for this particular piece every year.

01:12:29.280 But it's not just that.

01:12:31.520 We're seeing fraud in other areas.

01:12:32.940 Maybe you can help us with that as well.

01:12:34.240 But how do we put a stop to this, at least at the state level, from where your perspective is?

01:12:40.260 You know, the way that we can stop this in the state are just common sense business practices where you would have internal controls.

01:12:47.660 Some of the things that we have tried to put forward is if there is a known entity that is suspected or convicted of fraud,

01:12:54.680 it would be a simple check to make sure that same person or entity were not receiving other state dollars in other programs.

01:13:03.560 Because as we're talking about this fraud in the child care assistance program, we know in Minnesota, as I mentioned, Feeding Our Future,

01:13:12.720 that was out of our Department of Education that those $250 million went out.

01:13:17.740 We have other suspected and proven fraud in autism services, adult daycare, non-emergency transportation, housing stabilization services.

01:13:29.660 But under Democrat control, our budget exploded and we had an $18 billion surplus that was completely spent.

01:13:38.940 And our taxes and fees in Minnesota were raised another $10 billion.

01:13:43.640 And because Democrats were in full control of state government, Republicans could sound the alarm, but we didn't have the votes to change it.

01:13:52.480 And there was not a single Democrat that would say, maybe we need to look at why the budget has exploded. 0.57

01:13:57.840 They just kept shoveling the money out the door.

01:14:00.600 That's where we find ourselves.

01:14:01.880 And that is what I, as Speaker, am trying to fix in the House now and also part of the reason I am running for governor.

01:14:09.400 Lisa DeMittles is right now.

01:14:11.520 You know, I remember the first time you and I talked was actually right back after they announced Tim Walz would be the running mate for Kamala Harris.

01:14:20.880 He'd be the VP candidate for the Democrats.

01:14:23.620 And we kind of got a bit of a taste of how bad things were because it is no secret in the state of Minnesota.

01:14:32.500 And this is a guy who, you know, he had to set up a hotline for you to rat out your neighbors.

01:14:37.920 If you had more than a couple people over at your house and things like that, we had National Guard out on the streets, you know, making sure people weren't outside.

01:14:47.020 It's just wild, some of the stories that we've heard.

01:14:49.520 But you've seen it all up close and personal.

01:14:52.940 And you've been somebody on the front row for Tim Walz.

01:14:57.500 What do you think is going to happen?

01:14:59.800 You just heard that guy, David, talk about the charges.

01:15:03.280 You've called for him to resign.

01:15:05.120 What do you think is going to happen?

01:15:06.160 And really what should happen next with Governor Walz?

01:15:08.780 You know, I think anyone with a conscience would have stopped the fraud and been responsible as a leader of the state.

01:15:15.440 That is not what we found in Tim Walz.

01:15:17.620 But he has already announced that he is running for a third term.

01:15:21.380 We don't have term limits here in Minnesota.

01:15:23.400 He thinks he deserves a third term.

01:15:25.440 At a minimum, if he doesn't resign immediately, he at least needs to say that he is not running again for a third term and pull out of that race.

01:15:36.120 That'll be next November.

01:15:37.480 But we are not seeing that.

01:15:39.120 There is either an ignoring of the facts or an ignorance that they're not happening.

01:15:44.900 You know, when you and I talked, Justin, and Governor Walz was the vice presidential candidate with Harris as far as for vice president, maybe he was more focused on other things at a national level and didn't pay attention to what was happening here in Minnesota.

01:16:02.840 I don't know.

01:16:03.840 But either way, it has to stop.

01:16:05.640 He has not led this state in a way that has made it better for people.

01:16:09.580 He has hurt people along the way.

01:16:11.260 Yeah, this is really interesting.

01:16:15.500 He doesn't strike me, and I know you'll know him better than I do, but he doesn't strike me as a guy who's willing to walk away or even admit that there have been mistakes.

01:16:25.140 Even, let's be honest, acknowledge reality in some ways.

01:16:30.060 I think he's going to have to be dragged away kicking and screaming.

01:16:34.020 And, unfortunately, that only, I think, hurts the folks in Minnesota there.

01:16:39.320 Tell us about your run, though, for governor.

01:16:41.020 And I know folks can support you.

01:16:43.180 Go to Lisa4MN.com.

01:16:45.540 Lisa, the moon running there in Minnesota for governor.

01:16:50.320 Yeah.

01:16:50.680 I announced my run on November 2nd.

01:16:53.460 And the reason is, I looked at our state, the fraud was a big deal, but we were known for our educational quality over the years.

01:17:01.380 But under Governor Walz, our kids have been failing.

01:17:05.100 Our education system for our kids is failing.

01:17:07.380 Only half of our kids can even read at grade level on a statewide average.

01:17:12.400 We have the record fraud.

01:17:14.440 We've watched our state budget go from an $18 billion surplus and a raising of taxes and fees.

01:17:21.620 Governor Walz has spent us into a $6 billion deficit.

01:17:25.360 And there have been mandates that have pushed businesses out.

01:17:29.040 A new program starting tomorrow in the state of Minnesota, paid family medical leave.

01:17:34.120 It is a tax and a mandate on every business if you have one or more employees that will allow employees to take up to 20 weeks off for either their own health issues or the health issues of a friend or someone they know or the bonding of a child.

01:17:54.620 It is unbelievable.

01:17:55.720 So you talk about fraud here in the state of Minnesota.

01:17:58.120 We've got paid family medical leave without guardrails.

01:18:01.980 And we'll have to see where that lands.

01:18:03.740 But those are some of the reasons why I am running.

01:18:06.520 I want Minnesota to become that business-friendly state again where our economy can grow.

01:18:11.920 There's less mandates.

01:18:13.380 Families can afford their lives.

01:18:15.420 We'll keep boys out of girls' sports is another reason why we need change here in the state. 1.00

01:18:22.740 And then we'll get control of this fraud.

01:18:25.540 Lisa, thank you and good luck to you.

01:18:27.500 Please keep us posted and let us know.

01:18:30.020 As cleaning up this mess, I'm sure it's going to take quite the effort.

01:18:34.920 It is.

01:18:35.480 Thank you so much, Justin.

01:18:36.640 Really appreciate the opportunity to talk with you.

01:18:39.360 Lisa for MN.com.

01:18:40.960 That's Lisa. 0.93

01:18:41.400 Thank you.

01:18:42.260 We'll be back after this, folks.

01:18:43.680 We've got more, in fact, breaking news, details on this story and more when we return.

01:18:47.780 Justin Barkley in for a day for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

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01:20:18.660 Justin Barkley in for Glenn the Day of the Glenn Beck Program.

01:20:31.680 We told you yesterday, it's not just Minnesota.

01:20:34.920 It's Ohio now.

01:20:38.160 We've got news breaking from Ohio just moments ago.

01:20:41.460 It's being exposed more than 40, quote, daycare centers in Columbus, Ohio.

01:20:46.920 Opened under a Somali shell organization.

01:20:49.380 They get $14 million.

01:20:52.520 This is just in the last year alone.

01:20:57.160 Eric Daughtry over on X sharing these documents and the details from the research online.

01:21:04.400 And this is easy to do when you go in and look up these corporations.

01:21:06.880 But this is something you're going to see more and more.

01:21:11.740 As I mentioned yesterday, it's not just Minnesota.

01:21:17.040 You're going to find it everywhere.

01:21:18.960 And it's not just Somalis. 0.73

01:21:20.520 I think you're going to find it in many different areas and largely tied in to Democrats.

01:21:27.340 In fact, Tim Walls is saying, oh, no, Trump is politicizing this in a post on X.

01:21:32.360 He mentioned that earlier.

01:21:33.720 No, no, Tim.

01:21:34.620 He's not making this political.

01:21:37.080 It is political.

01:21:38.080 And he's pointed it out.

01:21:40.780 That's why they're finally going after some of these people.

01:21:43.940 The find out era is here.

01:21:46.420 And it's moving swiftly ahead.

01:21:48.380 So are we on a New Year's Eve on the Glenn Beck program.

01:21:51.420 Wishing you a happy New Year.

01:21:52.660 Justin Barkley in for Glenn today.

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01:23:18.980 Well, it has certainly been historic in nature this last year, the term, the second term of the President of the United States.

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01:23:34.480 I want to talk about, that's something that's sort of switching gears if I can on the last hour here of the Glenn Beck Program for the year.

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01:25:50.860 It's actually about ready to be made in some ways, and that's kind of interesting in itself.

01:25:56.260 Just an end today for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

01:25:58.560 I thought it would be interesting, and, yeah, we'll take a couple of calls here, too,

01:26:03.180 to see what your predictions are for the year ahead, 2026 and beyond.

01:26:08.100 But I thought it would be interesting to do that, to hear from you.

01:26:11.240 888-727-BECK.

01:26:17.200 I also saw a story that I thought, well, this is kind of fascinating.

01:26:21.900 I like little things like this, and I know a guy.

01:26:25.700 So I thought I'd reach out to my good friend Kevin DeVries,

01:26:28.740 who's actually been there, done that before, and even has the T-shirt.

01:26:34.260 They think they may have found Noah's Ark.

01:26:37.020 Well, that's the story from the New York Post.

01:26:38.700 But I've seen this story a time or two, and Kevin has, too.

01:26:41.900 In fact, he's been right in the middle of it.

01:26:43.380 He was part of a documentary that went looking for Noah's Ark.

01:26:48.240 Finding Noah is what it was called.

01:26:50.380 And he joins us now on the Glenn Beck program.

01:26:52.520 Kevin, did Noah's Ark really exist, is the headline.

01:26:57.260 Pottery fragments found near biblical boat site provide evidence of human settlement.

01:27:03.500 Fascinating story.

01:27:04.700 Let's dig in and talk about it.

01:27:08.320 You are, after all, my archaeologist.

01:27:13.620 Yeah, that's good.

01:27:15.180 Happy New Year, my friend.

01:27:16.300 Spent five summers looking for that thing.

01:27:22.020 Gary Sinise was kind enough to narrate for us.

01:27:24.440 But, you know, it seems like somebody finds it every year.

01:27:27.260 It's a fascinating story.

01:27:29.200 You know, it's got a lot of depth to it.

01:27:31.260 There's a lot of metaphor to it.

01:27:32.720 There's, well, you know, if you find the Ark, you find a lost link to another civilization, right?

01:27:37.500 It would be the last remaining remnant that we'd have had from the Antediluvian period.

01:27:41.040 So from an archaeological standpoint, it's fascinating because it could provide just a wealth of information.

01:27:47.620 But we, yeah, we spent quite a bit of time in ARAT and we're looking for that ship.

01:27:54.660 And the scientific, remote sensory indications that there was something there on the eastern plateau.

01:28:02.340 We did a ton of electrical and seismic recitivity tests, and we did a lot of ground penetrating radar, which is really tricky with ice.

01:28:10.040 It's really meant for dirt.

01:28:11.560 So there's a lot of refracting that goes on, almost like a Fresno lens that you would see, you know, at a lighthouse.

01:28:17.160 So it's very difficult to ascertain, you know, what's under the ice.

01:28:20.560 We also excavated some, you know, Herculean holes at 16,800.

01:28:27.520 Yeah, we know where it's not.

01:28:29.660 But you know where it's not.

01:28:33.340 We know where it's not.

01:28:35.280 So in this case, in this story, they think they may have found this.

01:28:41.320 Now, are you familiar with this particular?

01:28:43.340 Because it's, again, it's Turkey, right? 0.99

01:28:45.360 Yeah, it's, you know, it's a tourist park and they call it that.

01:28:48.040 It's Noah's Ark Park and it's called the Durepanar site.

01:28:51.600 And it was about 13 to 15 miles from our base camp area.

01:28:55.000 So it was just a hop and a skip.

01:28:56.560 I never actually went to the place personally.

01:28:58.940 It was just kind of written off.

01:29:04.700 Mostly because if you just shot up and did a Google Earth or put a drone up in the sky, you would see other anomalies of very similar kind throughout that region.

01:29:13.960 So I don't know.

01:29:14.880 I mean, if you follow the biblical account, I don't think Noah was in charge of an armada.

01:29:18.500 I think he was in charge of one boat, one ark.

01:29:21.640 So just taking a quick preview of Google Earth would indicate that, yeah, it's probably not unique to the area.

01:29:28.460 But, you know, it sells T-shirts, like you said.

01:29:32.120 And it gets people there.

01:29:33.920 And it gets a lot of, you know, these stories get.

01:29:39.440 Story of origins, right?

01:29:40.840 It explains a lot of things.

01:29:42.020 If you can start or restart creation from a particular point date, it explains a lot of cultures and different languages and the continents.

01:29:51.380 So it's a fascinating story.

01:29:53.360 It's a big story.

01:29:55.600 So what is your thought on this as someone who's gone searching?

01:30:00.640 Is it out there?

01:30:02.100 And if it is, you know, will we ever find it?

01:30:06.280 Or is this just something that's meant to be a mystery?

01:30:08.780 I think personally, I mean, we spent all of our time on the eastern plateau, which would have been an ideal site for preservation of a, you know, of an ark that would have been at that point, you know, thousands of years old.

01:30:22.300 And our hope was that if we had found it and conclusively proved that it was there, it would have been like the phronic sunboats, you know, from the Delta Nile, which are perfectly preserved.

01:30:30.720 Or the, you know, in Siberia, you've got these mastodones, these woolly mammoths that are preserved to the point that they're now able to extract DNA from them.

01:30:40.080 You know, or the bog ships from Norway.

01:30:42.680 If you go to Norway, you can see all these Viking ships that were perfectly preserved in the peat moss bog.

01:30:46.900 So any environment that's oxygen free, that doesn't allow for the entrance of bacteria, you could have that, you know, save for perpetuity.

01:30:54.600 So having ruled it out almost conclusively, it could still be in that area, but I highly doubt it.

01:30:59.320 It's a hundred foot depth, and we did everything we could to figure out what was underneath the ice.

01:31:04.360 But I personally believe it's in the O'Hara Gorge, if it is there or intact, you know, if they didn't break it apart and use it for wood immediately afterwards.

01:31:13.460 You know, it is interesting to think about, and I think that's why we're drawn, because we want answers, right?

01:31:22.920 I mean, you're somebody, and I think if you watch the documentary Finding Noah, you're going to get, they didn't get the arc.

01:31:30.940 But what they did find, I think, was even more interesting in this case.

01:31:37.000 And I think that's part of what draws us, is we're looking for answers as people.

01:31:43.300 Well, I think the great discoveries are what you find while you're looking for something else.

01:31:50.000 So the whole idea is the impetus.

01:31:52.240 The genius is action, right?

01:31:53.720 Get out the front door, get on the adventure, jump out of the boat, walk in the water.

01:31:58.260 You know, you've got to do something.

01:31:59.340 There's something about action that creates momentum, and momentum creates miracles, and things happen.

01:32:04.940 So I think you have to be very much attuned to that.

01:32:07.360 You know, what is the real story?

01:32:08.640 There's always, but the more obscure or oblique narrative is really the trick of it, is what is the universe trying to tell you?

01:32:18.660 What is God trying to speak to you?

01:32:20.240 And often he does metaphors, and the arc provides a perfect metaphor, you know, for Christ in our lives,

01:32:26.760 and the safety that he provides with the atonement and the sacrifice that he made to reconnect us back to God.

01:32:33.700 And so it's a powerful, powerful metaphor.

01:32:36.240 If you can look at it through that lens, it's a very poetic application for sure.

01:32:41.600 Kevin DeVries is with us right now.

01:32:43.700 In fact, I call him the archaeologist because he's gone looking for Noah's Ark.

01:32:48.380 But Kevin is kind of the best way to describe him would be like a faith-filled Indiana Jones.

01:32:54.280 He loves adventure.

01:32:56.340 He's constantly on one.

01:32:58.600 Made a documentary about climbing Mount Everest.

01:33:01.420 You've been all over the place.

01:33:02.800 And, in fact, you've got a new project you're working on right now, Kevin.

01:33:06.640 You guys are going to do something that has started to, I guess, be talked about again.

01:33:14.140 And in a project, in a way that's never been done before, you're launching something that I guess I would sort of describe as like a Bear Grylls meets The Chosen in some ways.

01:33:29.080 Yeah.

01:33:29.280 Yeah.

01:33:29.800 It's really fascinating.

01:33:31.340 What are you doing now?

01:33:32.440 Well, it's called The Journey Within.

01:33:35.540 And so when we did our last documentary, which is called The Journey Within, and it's all over just about every available channel possible, we did that because we wanted the viewer to go in as we were going up.

01:33:46.940 So it was a trek to Everest base camp, and it was talking a lot about trauma and how does trauma heal.

01:33:53.280 And so we were basically using the whole Himalayan range as kind of a juxtaposition of the inward journey because it's hard to climb mountains, but it's really hard to climb the ones that are within.

01:34:02.080 And sometimes I would imagine that those are the hardest miles to climb.

01:34:11.460 It's easy to live in your head.

01:34:12.640 And most people in the Western world, we live in our heads.

01:34:15.120 You know, we don't want to get into the heart because that's where, you know, all the good stuff happens.

01:34:19.940 But it's also where the hurt lies, but it's where the pain is, but that's also where your purpose is.

01:34:24.620 So your purpose is always encrypted in pain.

01:34:26.840 So if you can get past that, if you can walk into that cave, the great mythologist Joseph Campbell said that the cave that you dread to enter also holds the treasure that you.

01:34:40.220 It's great to go to the North and South Pole, look for Noah's Ark.

01:34:43.380 Adventure is a beautiful, wonderful thing.

01:34:45.780 It's kind of a lost art and it gets you on this journey, but the real journey is that 18 inches to get out of your head, out of that cerebral domain that you live in with facts and sink down into those 18 inches.

01:34:59.020 Get into your heart, get into your story, get into the true narrative, your true identity, which is always spiritual.

01:35:04.460 It's never superficial.

01:35:06.040 And if we can leverage adventure to do that, I think we've accomplished something.

01:35:09.380 In fact, the way we're marketing this or positioning this docuseries is where it's a series that's going where no other series has gone before, kind of a Star Trek thing.

01:35:19.720 But we're trying to essentially take the typical adventure program and turn it on its head.

01:35:25.900 And instead of just talking about achievements and all those things that come with that, we're trying to leverage that and turn it into something catalytic, something that's more about spiritual awakening.

01:35:37.080 So it's not just about, you know, climbing something and achieving something or surviving something.

01:35:43.580 It's more about spiritual awareness.

01:35:45.200 And if we can leverage those great survival stories, the Shackleton stories, right, these highly successful theaters, kind of like Finding Noah.

01:35:52.240 We were up on that.

01:35:55.320 Dozens of guys and electrical activity and thunderstorms and, you know, geopolitical tension with the PKK and the Turks.

01:36:03.420 I mean, there's numerous ways we could have died, right?

01:36:05.480 It's almost Shackleton-esque where, you know, it takes these 27 guys on adventure and against all odds, after being years on the ice, they come back to the man.

01:36:14.140 They all survived.

01:36:15.600 And so sometimes you have to look at the greatest lessons are the successful failures.

01:36:19.760 I've learned very little through success.

01:36:21.820 It's the failures that, that's the gold.

01:36:24.700 And if you can find guys and women that walk with a limp, hang close to them because they typically have the gold.

01:36:30.900 They know the secrets of the journey and they've learned it the hard way.

01:36:34.140 They learned it through failure.

01:36:36.480 Kevin DeVries and the journey within.

01:36:40.480 By the way, Kevin, I know this isn't like for prime time.

01:36:42.920 It's not ready for public consumption yet.

01:36:45.260 But if people want to follow you, maybe they want to go along for the ride or maybe they want to help support this effort and this ministry.

01:36:53.620 I know you've got a great website, graceexplorations.com.

01:36:56.760 You're probably looking for a little bit of help to still put that together?

01:36:59.380 Yeah, absolutely.

01:37:01.460 I mean, we are, we just released the trailer series video, which has just gotten a lot of rave reviews in the last two weeks.

01:37:07.560 And that actually lives on my YouTube channel.

01:37:09.180 It's under my name, Kevin DeVries.

01:37:11.340 It's so new that it just lives on YouTube right now.

01:37:13.740 But they can take a peek at that.

01:37:15.100 If they want to be a financial partner, they can go to graceexplorations.com and be a part of that.

01:37:20.400 If they want more info, they can contact me there as well.

01:37:22.680 I can give them the producer's pitch deck.

01:37:25.020 But yeah, we're looking for people to help finance this and also we're looking for distribution partners and streaming partners because we want this to be kind of a thing where eventually people can binge watch it.

01:37:36.280 So four or five series worth of content and you find a snowy day in Michigan and we want something in one month, one episode per week.

01:37:49.140 And people can learn about, you know, Mallory climbing Everest and the disappearance and the legend that's all involved with that.

01:37:56.680 And then follow us on Shackleton's journey across South Georgia where we had the third man encounter, which is a phenomena that many people that have survived extreme conditions can relate to.

01:38:07.640 It kind of goes back to antiquity with the three fever boys and the fire, you know, and the fourth person, like who is that person, Nebuchadnezzar said.

01:38:14.220 And so stories with Shackleton having this third man encounter that survivors whisper about and we're leveraging that and we're talking about, well, you know, Shackleton was an incredible leader.

01:38:27.500 He did incredible things.

01:38:28.720 He was able to stop 97 miles from the South Pole, turn around because he knew he had enough food to get there, but not enough to get back, which is a huge leadership decision.

01:38:37.580 Mallory was during the wildest dream, you know, trying to climb Everest.

01:38:44.220 But we're trying to go deeper, so.

01:38:47.860 Kevin, it sounds like we're losing you.

01:38:49.560 I think you're not up on Everest today.

01:38:51.680 You might be up on another mountain, but we've got, we've definitely got a, well, a great starting point here for folks.

01:39:01.800 GraceExplorations.com, the journey within.

01:39:04.900 And Kevin DeVries, thank you for taking the time off from searching for the ark today.

01:39:10.940 Me too, just to stop in and, and fill us in on the latest.

01:39:15.180 Yeah.

01:39:15.580 Thank you so much, Justin.

01:39:16.660 Sorry we lost connection there for a bit.

01:39:18.060 I appreciate the opportunity.

01:39:19.500 No, you're, you're always great.

01:39:20.680 Appreciate you, my friend.

01:39:21.560 Thank you, Kevin.

01:39:22.220 God bless.

01:39:22.880 Happy new year.

01:39:25.860 I just such a fascinating, I could talk to that guy forever.

01:39:28.980 Um, but such a fascinating story and, uh, there's even more to Kevin's story.

01:39:34.460 I think you really, uh, if you got to know him, you'd really enjoy it.

01:39:38.780 The guy is, uh, he's, he's something else and he never stops.

01:39:41.960 He's just like constantly going.

01:39:43.940 He's one of those people that just has that energy.

01:39:46.000 And I wonder where sometimes, where do you get it?

01:39:48.380 Uh, by the way, speaking of which, we're not going to stop.

01:39:51.020 We've got to keep going.

01:39:51.800 In fact, we'll take a quick 60 second break, but on the flip side, got some predictions for 2026.

01:39:56.780 I'd love to hear from you.

01:39:58.720 So here's what I'm going to do.

01:39:59.600 Give you the number and you can call in and give us yours.

01:40:03.180 888-727-BECK.

01:40:05.960 888-727-BECK.

01:40:08.040 Where do you see us headed in the next year?

01:40:11.480 I've got a few trickling in on email and we'll grab phones as well.

01:40:15.440 Justin at justinbarclay.com or 888-727-BECK.

01:40:20.780 Back right after this on the Glenn Beck program.

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01:41:35.240 All right, what do you have on the radar for 2026?

01:41:40.560 It is the 250th anniversary, the semi-quincentennial,

01:41:46.460 as we were just talking about this off the air.

01:41:48.880 That's half a 500, semi-quincentennial, 250th year anniversary of the United States.

01:41:55.940 So it's going to be a big one.

01:41:57.100 I think it'd be, you know, it'd be interesting to see how,

01:42:01.300 how, it's certainly different with President Trump in the office,

01:42:05.560 how everything is going to look.

01:42:07.140 I mean, even the White House,

01:42:08.320 even the White House at Christmastime and the way they celebrate things

01:42:12.860 has been completely and it's like a 180 between this administration and the Biden White House,

01:42:20.600 which is wild to watch.

01:42:22.440 But I think we could use a little bit of that injection of patriotism.

01:42:26.320 And I think it's much needed and will be well appreciated.

01:42:32.940 All right, so we got a little bit of, and by the way, I don't care.

01:42:36.100 These can be doom or gloom and they can be positive as well.

01:42:41.000 Robin Texas says,

01:42:42.000 I'm afraid Democrats will flip the House in the midterm elections.

01:42:45.300 Well, we talked about that yesterday.

01:42:50.020 That's high on our radar.

01:42:52.680 That's one of the things we're following and, of course, very much concerned about.

01:42:59.220 Rob says, capitalizing on historical midterm trends against the President's party

01:43:04.400 and economic frustrations.

01:43:07.780 Well, and some of the fighting, the infighting,

01:43:10.240 the things that you're seeing within conservatives right now is not,

01:43:12.800 it's not helpful.

01:43:15.700 And it's pulling us in, by the way, I think that's designed.

01:43:20.620 Although that's by design.

01:43:22.680 Designed to pull us in so many different directions so that we, you know,

01:43:27.060 we're ineffective.

01:43:28.200 And that's, that's a real problem.

01:43:33.220 Republicans hold or narrowly expand their Senate majority.

01:43:37.660 And that's interesting.

01:43:38.880 All right, what's your, what's your prediction for 2026?

01:43:42.740 It can be big.

01:43:44.000 It can be small.

01:43:45.200 But we want to hear from you.

01:43:46.280 Now, 888-727-BECK-N88-727-BECK or Justin at JustinBarclay.com.

01:43:55.660 Grab yours.

01:43:57.100 And we'll hear from someone smack dab in the middle of all the insanity in Minnesota.

01:44:01.420 Someone from a Glenn Beck affiliate coming up after this on the Glenn Beck program.

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01:45:47.860 All right, 2026 predictions rolling in as we wrap up the year.

01:45:53.660 And it's my honor and privilege to do that with you on the Glenn Beck program today.

01:45:56.600 Justin Barkley in for Glenn.

01:45:59.060 And if you want to give us one of your predictions,

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01:46:08.560 Justin at justinbarclay.com.

01:46:11.300 It's JJ in Texas first up before we get to our guest.

01:46:15.040 JJ, what do you see for 2026?

01:46:17.700 You're on the Glenn Beck program.

01:46:19.740 Well, happy new year.

01:46:20.800 And thank you for taking my call, Justin.

01:46:22.620 Thank you, sir.

01:46:23.020 You too.

01:46:23.480 I believe that, and to paraphrase the great Ronaldus Magnus, President Ronald Reagan,

01:46:32.300 if the Republicans, when it comes to health care policy, will learn to color in bold colors

01:46:42.760 and not pale pastels, as President Reagan used to say, and come up with something,

01:46:48.240 not just, you know, beat around the bush, around the edges,

01:46:53.640 but really come up with something that makes it more affordable, you know,

01:46:57.180 get rid of some of the competition limitations across state lines, things like that,

01:47:01.760 something that will substantially change people's life for the better to the tune of $1,000, $2,000 a month,

01:47:06.940 I think we win.

01:47:08.600 The economy's got, you know, the economy's looking like it could really take off next year,

01:47:13.060 you know, with the things that he's implemented already.

01:47:17.420 Inflation is going to be reasonably under control for the foreseeable future.

01:47:22.620 So if we get health care, I think we do this.

01:47:26.560 I love that.

01:47:27.220 From your lips to God's ears, JJ, thank you so much for that prediction.

01:47:31.660 The key word I heard was if.

01:47:37.760 That's a tall order.

01:47:40.020 But, man, you're absolutely right.

01:47:41.740 This is what Americans voted for.

01:47:43.940 Bold, massive action to completely turn the tide.

01:47:49.420 They've got to feel it.

01:47:51.440 And it can't be just talk, can't be just lip service.

01:47:55.160 We need bold action.

01:47:56.200 The president can pull that off along with Congress.

01:47:59.080 Congress is the trick there.

01:48:00.480 That'll certainly put us right where we need to be.

01:48:04.020 Let's go to Minnesota, in fact, to one of the Glenn Beck affiliates.

01:48:08.100 Twin Cities News Talk in Minneapolis.

01:48:10.040 Our good friend John is on the phone with us right now.

01:48:13.000 John Justison, you've got the morning show there, John,

01:48:15.940 where you talk about these stories on a daily basis.

01:48:18.740 You and I go back to Michigan ties at one point,

01:48:23.040 but you and I have talked in the past about Governor Tim Walz,

01:48:27.920 all the corruption there.

01:48:29.020 And I know you have a front-row seat.

01:48:32.100 We talked to Lisa DeMuth earlier in the program about some of these things.

01:48:34.840 You have a front-row seat to it all, and I think a unique perspective.

01:48:38.680 So welcome in to the Glenn Beck program.

01:48:41.260 Well, it's always great to talk with you, Justin,

01:48:43.380 and thanks so much for having me on.

01:48:45.100 If I can give my 2026 prediction, it plays into what we're going to talk about.

01:48:48.960 Yes.

01:48:49.360 I'm convinced that with the firestorm of fraud information,

01:48:54.980 you know, revelations coming out of Minnesota,

01:48:56.900 that this is going to now spread nationwide.

01:49:00.000 I think as we head into next year, fraud, not just in Minnesota,

01:49:04.380 but systemic fraud across the country,

01:49:07.240 in the same way it's being perpetuated in this great state,

01:49:10.440 is going to be exposed on a nationwide level.

01:49:13.180 That's what I think the big story is going to be heading into next year.

01:49:16.060 But great to join you.

01:49:17.720 Yes.

01:49:18.220 And I will say, John, you know, look, again, from your lips to God's ears,

01:49:23.040 let's just say, because we're already starting to see,

01:49:26.080 I don't think, I've been telling people all the last couple of days,

01:49:29.160 look, this isn't just Minnesota, and it's not just Somalis.

01:49:32.380 This is any government program, any politician that's involved,

01:49:38.220 I won't even narrow it down to Democrats,

01:49:41.060 although largely that's where this issue is.

01:49:43.440 And, of course, unfortunately, I think it ties into election issues as well.

01:49:48.240 But, yeah, we're starting to hear Ohio, Maine, and a couple other places.

01:49:53.920 Yeah, it's been really wild to watch what has transpired

01:49:58.660 over the course of the past few weeks.

01:50:00.120 I've been on vacation.

01:50:01.380 I take vacation this time every single year,

01:50:03.260 and typically there's nothing going on.

01:50:05.040 And I've never, ever seen this amount of news coverage this time of year.

01:50:09.500 And for those of us here in Minnesota,

01:50:11.700 so much of what is being exposed on the national level, for us, it's not new.

01:50:17.340 We've known about this stuff for years now.

01:50:21.160 We're very thankful that it's finally receiving the attention,

01:50:24.520 and certainly from the Trump administration, to do something about it,

01:50:27.980 because nothing has happened here in Minnesota,

01:50:30.320 despite all the lip service from Governor Tim Walz and his administration.

01:50:33.900 But the great tragedy in all of this is that it all could have been avoided,

01:50:38.180 and we've known about it for years.

01:50:40.140 Hey, can you imagine, because I know we talked about this a little over a year ago,

01:50:44.460 but could you imagine if Kamala and Walz would have won, what that would look like?

01:50:51.360 Because part of winning in 2026, look, I know we want results,

01:50:55.360 and we want them, like, yesterday, right, we're very impatient.

01:50:58.080 I get that.

01:50:59.040 And frustrated sometimes.

01:51:00.360 But can you just imagine what that would have been like?

01:51:03.680 I think it's important for us to look back at, gosh, the bullet we dodged.

01:51:08.360 Oh, it was a massive bullet. 0.96

01:51:11.180 Governor Tim Walz is a disaster. 0.98

01:51:14.500 He is an absolute partisan hack disaster.

01:51:17.660 And I am convinced that if they had won, again, what you're seeing in terms of the mentality

01:51:25.800 that has driven the ability for the fraud to be committed,

01:51:30.600 and that's really what we're talking about.

01:51:32.180 You know, these are ideologies.

01:51:34.300 This is the belief system of Governor Tim Walz and Harris and Democrats for the most part.

01:51:38.660 If they had actually ended up in the White House, I mean, turning a blind eye to all of this

01:51:42.660 that has been transpiring like it has here in Minnesota would have taken place on a scale

01:51:47.320 at the national level that I don't know if we would have been able to recover from.

01:51:51.280 In the meantime, we still have to deal with Walz and his attempt to win a historic third term,

01:51:56.320 if he even makes it, to still be the nominee next year, which I don't think is going to happen at this point.

01:52:01.940 You know, we heard from Lisa DeMuth, the Speaker of the House,

01:52:05.800 they're calling for his resignation.

01:52:07.520 We heard from she's running for governor.

01:52:09.040 We heard from Mike Lindell, who's made that announcement earlier this week as well.

01:52:14.340 But you mentioned that.

01:52:16.120 It's really interesting.

01:52:17.020 What happens next?

01:52:18.000 You know, Walz.

01:52:19.140 Will he resign, or will he have to be drug-kicking and screaming from the office?

01:52:24.380 The only way that he resigns, or I think the first move you would see is him withdrawing from the governor's race.

01:52:34.420 You know, this would be a historic third term if he were to win.

01:52:38.140 No governor, since we changed the laws going back decades upon decades to four-year terms,

01:52:43.120 no governor has won a consecutive third term.

01:52:45.620 And he was damaged goods before all of this erupted, Justin.

01:52:49.980 And now it's even worse, obviously.

01:52:52.820 So the pressure is going to have to come internally.

01:52:54.940 So if he ends up pulling out of the governor's race,

01:52:58.340 or there is a candidate that emerges to challenge him in a primary next year,

01:53:02.600 that would be the first step.

01:53:04.320 It really is going to have to come internally from Democrats in Minnesota for him to step down.

01:53:11.580 If they feel like he is that damaging to the party, I could see it happen.

01:53:16.440 Now, whether or not that is the case and what has to transpire is, of course,

01:53:19.600 you know, the question regarding that,

01:53:21.400 because we just don't know what's going to happen now moving forward with all this exposure.

01:53:25.100 John Jess is on with us right now from Twin Cities News Talk in Minneapolis.

01:53:30.300 Let me ask you, we're talking about the fraud.

01:53:32.100 The daycare is one.

01:53:33.440 We've heard about the autism fraud. 0.71

01:53:35.100 Where are the other places that the fraud is hiding, lurking,

01:53:40.340 that the administration needs to look into here?

01:53:42.980 So specifically, we know that the housing stabilization services,

01:53:47.740 that was completely, that was shut down completely by the U.S. attorney here in Minnesota, Joe Thompson.

01:53:52.840 He came out and publicly said in a press conference that the entirety of housing and stabilization services program was fraudulent.

01:54:01.420 Transportation services is another area that needs to be examined.

01:54:04.980 The same type of fraud that has happened within autism and daycare centers where you basically have phantom children client lists

01:54:15.400 that are being billed to the states, you know, getting these millions of dollars in Medicaid funding.

01:54:20.160 But the same thing rings true when it comes to these bus services that are supposed to be allegedly transporting children

01:54:25.480 to these various places where we're fairly convinced that this is also happening within those services as well.

01:54:31.940 But I'll tell you, at this point, I'm personally convinced, and again, it's just my opinion,

01:54:38.060 I'm personally convinced that any Medicaid-funded, taxpayer-funded social service program here in Minnesota,

01:54:44.720 every single one of them needs to be investigated at this point in time.

01:54:47.400 I feel like the problem is that systemic right now because it seems like every new investigation into any new service

01:54:54.940 ends up showing fraud taking place.

01:54:57.900 I think all of it is corrupt at this point.

01:54:59.400 Yeah, you know, we got a glimpse into what all that looks like with states refusing to give away their SNAP information.

01:55:06.140 Why wouldn't you do that?

01:55:07.800 I mean, that just seems obvious.

01:55:09.480 And when you make those types of moves, I think it's clear for folks.

01:55:14.100 John, where can people find you?

01:55:15.540 Because I know they're going to want to maybe tune in as this develops and get an on-the-ground picture

01:55:21.500 and insight when you return on the 5th on Monday for all of this.

01:55:24.720 Yeah, well, of course, Glenn Beck is on right after my weekly radio show on 6 until 9 a.m. Central Time

01:55:31.580 on the iHeartRadio app on KTLK Minneapolis.

01:55:33.880 You can also follow me online on x at JohnJustice, J-O-N.

01:55:39.400 I'm on the John Justice on TikTok and Instagram, all the social media platforms.

01:55:44.180 But yeah, just John Justice.

01:55:45.940 Find me online and you'll see where I'm posting.

01:55:49.540 I've been posting all vacation as well.

01:55:50.940 So thanks for having me on this morning, man.

01:55:52.140 It was great talking with you.

01:55:52.860 What a week worth of news for you on your vacation, man.

01:55:56.360 I mean, you've got to take a little time off every now and then.

01:56:01.380 And the news never stops these days.

01:56:03.680 Yeah, it's insane.

01:56:04.820 It's insane.

01:56:05.380 I've never had a vacation with this much going on before.

01:56:08.380 I almost feel like I haven't had one.

01:56:09.860 But it's been awesome.

01:56:10.780 I'm well rested.

01:56:12.140 Enjoy it, my friend.

01:56:13.140 Thank you so much.

01:56:13.920 Happy New Year, John.

01:56:15.640 Happy New Year to you, too.

01:56:17.060 Yeah, God bless.

01:56:17.920 Folks, take a quick break.

01:56:18.980 When we come back, I've got a couple of more predictions.

01:56:21.300 I might have one myself coming up.

01:56:24.920 We'll get into that.

01:56:25.680 Let's hear from you as well.

01:56:27.140 888-727-BECK.

01:56:29.780 888-727-BECK.

01:56:31.820 We're at justin at justinbarclay.com.

01:56:34.400 My email, justin at justinbarclay, B-A-R-C-L-A-Y.com.

01:56:38.400 Back.

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01:58:02.040 Wrapping up the last few minutes and moments here on the Glenn Beck Program of the Year,

01:58:18.300 and with you and your predictions, 888-727-BECK.

01:58:22.760 Jay in Ohio, you're up next on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:58:26.600 Hey, thanks for taking my call.

01:58:28.160 Hey, my prediction for this year is that they're going to find out Ohio,

01:58:33.120 amount of fraud in our Medicaid system, I'm calling in from Ohio,

01:58:36.440 is going to be about double what's in Minnesota.

01:58:39.000 And the reason I say that is we have about a $40 billion line item in our annual state budget

01:58:45.240 of about $100 million, so call it 40%.

01:58:48.200 A few years ago, the CMS, which is the Health and Human Services Department

01:58:53.540 that runs Medicaid and Medicare, has to come out, was supposed to come out

01:58:57.600 with an annual report showing all the fraud, improper payments, state by state.

01:59:01.920 Ohio was dead last with 43.3% improper payment rate on $40 billion

01:59:08.440 equals $17.7 billion versus Minnesota's $9 billion.

01:59:13.440 And this is in a red state, supermajority, and the reason it's going on is it goes back to 2013

01:59:20.320 when then-Governor RINO, John Kasich, took the Obama-Medicaid expansion deal,

01:59:26.540 if you remember that, which was Medicaid expansion is lower the bar, let everybody in,

01:59:31.520 and now our current RINO, Governor DeWine, he was against it before he got in

01:59:36.300 and saw how much money was flown in from the federal coffers.

01:59:38.740 Uh-oh. Are we losing, Jay?

01:59:47.280 Sound like the phone caught up.

01:59:50.060 That was an interesting prediction.

01:59:51.980 I'll give you another one here.

01:59:52.980 Let's go to Lorraine in New York.

01:59:55.020 You're on the Glenn Beck program, Lorraine.

01:59:57.720 Hi.

01:59:58.120 My overall prediction is we're going to have some more sanity and civility in the coming year,

02:00:05.960 and that will be expressed for me in a couple things.

02:00:09.440 Elon Musk and President Trump will sort of reunite,

02:00:14.800 and there will be a way to use the Doge revelations.

02:00:19.400 And then my second way it will be expressed is somebody's going to come up with a physical science explanation

02:00:28.500 of things that we thought of as only spiritual before.

02:00:32.700 Interesting.

02:00:34.000 Well, maybe Elon will be the guy to do that.

02:00:36.420 I'd love to see those two get back, get the band back together.

02:00:38.820 Thank you, Lorraine.

02:00:39.800 Steve in Florida, up next with a prediction.

02:00:42.220 You're on the Glenn Beck program.

02:00:43.340 Yeah, my prediction, and to President Trump, one of the main reasons we voted for you

02:00:50.000 is to clean up the sewer in Washington, and not just Washington, D.C.,

02:00:55.980 but these states, like in Minnesota, and we're tired of the talk.

02:01:00.340 Pam Bondi, go on, Fox.

02:01:02.040 All right, stay there.

02:01:02.940 She was here in Florida with the Epstein stuff, and she jack-squacked.

02:01:07.340 And also, release the crackhead's hard drive.

02:01:10.460 We're tired of the talk.

02:01:12.100 And, President, that's right.

02:01:13.840 You've got to be proactive.

02:01:15.840 And far too long, we have, like, Mr. Johnson, no way votes, reactionary to, like, a deliverance boy,

02:01:22.340 the morning schmoll on MSLSD with Mika.

02:01:25.300 We're sick and tired of it.

02:01:27.540 We're sick and tired of it.

02:01:29.740 President Trump, Cass Patel, talked a good game in the private sector, government gangsters.

02:01:35.220 Look, look at this, the hard drive, the crackhead's hard drive, Burisma, border Burisma.

02:01:40.580 Well, I'm running out of time, Steve, but I appreciate that.

02:01:44.320 What I hear you say is don't just drain it, flush the swamp.

02:01:47.280 And I like that.

02:01:48.680 And we're going to see it.

02:01:49.480 Is that the prediction?

02:01:50.960 I think so.

02:01:51.740 Well, folks, as the clock strikes midnight, and we're winding down to that moment,

02:01:56.360 putting a wrap on things here at the Glenn Beck Program for the year,

02:01:59.740 I appreciate you.

02:02:00.700 Always an honor to be here with you.

02:02:02.300 And it is just a privilege.

02:02:03.540 It's the best audience.

02:02:04.540 Glenn's got the greatest folks.

02:02:06.560 We're closing that chapter on another year.

02:02:09.300 And today we're looking forward for Renew Hope.

02:02:11.740 That's what I'm looking for.

02:02:12.920 I think lots of folks are as we move into 2026 and the 250th birthday of this nation.

02:02:20.160 A quarter millennium since that bold declaration of independence.

02:02:25.180 A milestone that calls us to celebrate how far we've come

02:02:29.040 and to yet dream even bigger about where we're going.

02:02:33.160 So this year from coast to coast, we're going to honor this great nation,

02:02:37.560 its founders, with parades, fireworks, and you in service to it all.

02:02:44.280 We appreciate you.

02:02:45.580 Justin in for Glenn today on the Glenn Beck Program.

02:02:48.440 Love to catch up with you.

02:02:49.600 Justin at justinbarclay.com.

02:02:51.080 I'm at Mr. Justin Barclay everywhere else.

02:02:54.040 Happy New Year and God bless.

02:02:56.380 This is Glenn Beck.

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