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Glenn Beck speaks at Turning Point USA in Scottsdale, AZ. He talks about the importance of standing your ground when times get dark, and how to face the dark and embrace the fire. Glenn also discusses the dangers of online title fraud, and why you should be worried about it.
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Your home is your most valuable investment, but in today's digital world, it is also one
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Criminals are constantly looking for ways to exploit online records, and home title
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fraud has become one of the fastest-growing cybercrimes in America.
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Works like this, basically a thief finds your title online, forges a document to make it
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look like they own your home, and then, you know, they use that fake ownership to borrow
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thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars against your property,
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and you don't even find out until you get an eviction notice or the bills start coming
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and if fraud is found, they're going to make it right.
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If you don't want to deal with this, you probably want to get ahead of it before it happens to
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Change the way you're approaching this problem.
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down the road where shadows hide feel the dark on every side stand your ground when times get dark gotta face the dark and embrace the fire
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ryan morrow is a guy who's been on this program several times he is the capital research center investigative researcher and one of the best researchers i know he's a counterterrorism expert
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um he is joining me now he says he has the smoking gun that president trump needs to take on the soros network uh and um he's gonna he's gonna reveal a lot of uh this stuff today while i'm on the charlie kirk show i'm gonna be hosting uh for charlie in about two hours on uh on the charlie kirk show
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ryan welcome to the program we're glad you're here thanks for having me
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so uh ryan uh first of all uh i know how you felt about charlie kirk and uh condolences uh on that
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and thank you for everything that you're doing uh right now i think this is so important especially in
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thank you and it's an honor really to be part of um you know your friend and to be part of part of your team
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and try to make a difference so that this doesn't go unanswered and so that hopefully some greater good
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comes about as a result of us so i remember you and i met oh how many years ago and we we sat together
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and we talked about taking on george soros and how important do you remember that conversation
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i do um it was we were discussing our mutual friend phil haney who had passed um and the way forward
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uh and so you have been doing research uh and you are a great researcher um and you've been doing
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research and what can you share now i know you want to make a big announcement when we're together again
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with the the charlie kirk uh show but what can you give us as a preview
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well what i can say is is that i believe that myself and my colleagues at capital research center
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have done the most extensive investigation into the soros network's funding of extremists
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that i think was ever conducted um and the results are shocking and it should change the game it should
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equip the trump administration with what they need in order to take action uh we don't have to have a
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a debate about free speech versus hate speech um if you look at the irs code uh non-profits are
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not allowed to be engaging in criminal activity they're not allowed uh possibly to even be encouraging
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it if you look at the language um and what we have found is many millions of dollars going to things
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like that and right now i'm holding my hand about 100 pages of evidence that we're about to drop
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um with you and so i think it's safe to say that today the counter offensive begins
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yeah we are uh going through the 100 pages ourselves right now we got it from you last night and um and
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we're furiously going through all of the pages it's pretty um pretty remarkable uh what you have found
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what is your um what's your level of comfort on saying 100 correct i almost never say this
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but it's 100 correct and to give you an idea of why i'm so confident uh there's a related report
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that i did for capillation center called marching towards violence where we mapped out all the groups
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that were organizing the anti-semitic anti-american protests after the october 7th attacks and we
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identified over 150 pro-terrorism groups that basically manufactured all of that uh and this is this is very
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similar there's some overlap and here is what one of the media outlets connected to that seditionist
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movement truth out actually said they said that our report is a quote existential threat
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that could easily mean a quick death for most of the groups especially the non-profits
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by getting their tax exempt statuses revoked and those that survive this group said would suffer what they
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call mass chaos so the extremists have told us that we've discovered how to defeat them
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you know it's it's amazing to me that these guys have gotten away with it for so long i mean when i
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started you know going after the tides foundation and showed how the showed america how the shell game
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was working they've only gotten more bold and much much more dangerous um all the way into using our
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tax dollars to funnel money into overthrowing us um uh why why haven't we gotten serious about this
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until now i think it's so brazen that it's hard for people to believe that there's actually something
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bad going on i mean there's a few things going on which is where it's so in your face that people say
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mother well i mean if it was really that bad then someone would have done something about it and then
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they look elsewhere um there have been exposés done about grants going from some of these big
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billionaire funded organizations going to these extremes groups but it comes in drips and draps
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um so what we've done is we brought it in the case of soros brought it all together into one spot found
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many many many more financial transactions using their own records uh in order to illustrate for the
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first time i think so people understand that this is an infrastructure this is a movement and as scary as
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that is it also means it can be taken down we can confront them and this is something that we can win
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you know it's amazing to me um i think there's three countries i know it's hungary i think it's
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singapore and i think there's another one that have banned george soros and his allies uh you you can't
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operate in those countries um because they know the damage that he does and they know and they and
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they've just said it out loud do you think we're going to get to a place to where we can start doing
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things like that well i think we're at that point i think when this comes out and people realize that
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what the iris code says attacks exempt organization can do and cannot do and how blatantly is being
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crossed that this is no longer a heavy list it's just a matter of the will of willpower and coordination
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making sure everybody that can make something happen actually does it and is all operating
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they're all on the same page um and as bad as the threat is and as quickly as it's escalating i think
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we can rapidly push it back um and when people see that like soros is funding so many groups that
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endorsed the october 7th attacks i think you'll even see democratic voting and left-wing supporting
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groups back away and say you know what i don't want to touch this
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uh we are uh like i said we're going over the research uh ourselves and uh we'll probably end up
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doing a a giant chalkboard on it once we get through it but i i want you to know i'll personally give it
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to the president um myself to make sure that he sees it because um you've done you've done yeoman's work
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here uh and done a lot of the work for the fbi and everybody else it's i mean it's it's not hard to
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see where it is it is hard to prove it and to track it down uh and make sure that everything is buttoned
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up and you've done a lot of that work already so thank you for that thank you so much uh it's
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great to know that finally action will be taken with your help and that just for everyone listening
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out there like civilians to make a difference you know it's a you don't have to outsource your civic
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responsibility to the government and assume that they know everything in all the powers in their
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hands this is this is the power of patriotic non-profit organizations like what i work for
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and what independent civilians can do you can really make a difference if you want to
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can you talk about um occupied turtle island i know we've talked about this before but i'd like you
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to go into that again because it it kind of goes into what you were what you're going to talk about
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here uh coming up in a couple of hours sure so so this is a term that everyone needs to familiarize
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themselves with because this is how you know when a group is radical and very often our times are
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hiding it they will refer to the united states as either the so-called united states or occupied turtle
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island and it comes to this myth that the native americans before the evil white settlers showed up
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refer to the entire continent as turtle island and what they do is by referring to the us as
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turtle island they're saying we do not recognize the right of the united states to exist and if you
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do not have a right to exist then you should be destroyed and it's the same template that they use
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against israel when they refer to it as occupied palestine so these groups are supposedly just anti-israel
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but then refer to the us as occupied turtle island they have the same exact agenda for
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both of us and if you look at the foreign governments that support them if you look at what
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the words of the extremists of all kinds say that are part of this movement their big gamble is that
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americans can be triggered provoked to rip america apart along racial lines along political lines
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and that our civil discourse our civil society will be so poisoned that it'll cease to function
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and that people will become more like tyler robinson supporters and their rhetoric will be more like
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that and less like the love you would see from charlie kirk i mean i mean you look at some of the longer
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even the longer videos of charlie cook that sometimes didn't always go viral and you can see the love he
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had for the people he was defending at times and that for me i know made me a better person that impacted me
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more than any opinion he expressed or argued for i think that's why he affected so many people
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he really did love the people he was debating um he really didn't have hatred in his heart for any of
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them i mean you know he he became a christian he was baptized in 2018 i think and he lived his faith
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he lived his faith and was really trying to live a life uh very much like christ um and you know not
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a perfect guy by any stretch of the imagination but man better than i am better than i probably have ever
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been uh you know living his life let me let me ask you about one other thing um let me put a full screen
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up um this is uh kristen hawkins president students for life a side-by-side picture of a charlie kirk memorial
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at unc wilmington one before it was vandalized and one picture now spray-painted with trans pride
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colors so vandalize after have you heard of trans uh trantifa
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heard that term i have oh yeah it's like a militia type movement and they've used that term to describe
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themselves by the way so it's not really offensive how real is trantifa how how extensive is that and
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have you seen any funding going toward groups that would call themselves trantifa
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i've seen funding including from soros's network going towards groups that ally themselves with antifa
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terrorists for sure we're going to show that um trantifa would be a subset of that uh so you can
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make the argument back connection exist um but more broadly i mean i've been studying and monitoring
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extremists and getting to law enforcement intelligence about these types of people
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for many years reporting thousands of them and so i saw this militia-type trantifa movement
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really growing and it's real like i've seen them own mma gyms um i've seen them doing they're very pro-gun
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actually um because you have to be to have a militia um and they act i've seen them actually
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radicalize what you would consider to be almost like right-wingers with this anarchist rhetoric
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about minimal government or no government and gun rights and that's why it's the more i monitor this
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the more i feel like the framing of some of this needs adjustment because all of these diverse
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extremists kind of go into one global seditionist movement is what i call it all of us
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as much as we disagree have so much more in common with each other than all of these extremists that
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want to burn everything to the ground i know i know i know and yet they'll stand together uh you
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know and plan on killing each other after you know they they win against us uh and for some reason we
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just can't stand together thank you so much ryan i'll talk to you in a couple of hours appreciate it
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okay thanks glad thank you you bet ryan ryan is going to be joining me on the charlie kirk show
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because of his relationship with charlie kirk he really wanted to announce it on charlie's uh
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show um and i think it's absolutely appropriate um but it's it's big breaking news and it is the key
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that the president will need to begin to take down george soros and uh a lot of his ngos
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uh ryan seems to have the goods um and we'll bring that to you in a couple of hours all right
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one of the big pieces of pushback from the left since all this happened was actually no there's no rise in
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this uh trans violence this trans aggressiveness that's not a real thing this is something that
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the right is is made up and uh actually excuse me the overwhelming majority of incidents when it comes
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to political violence come from the right glenn i i'd like to see the evidence of that i would love to see
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the evidence of that what the one and and and and the timeline too i i heard one of the last questions
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with charlie kirk in the last 10 years was it 10 years or 20 years in the last 10 years yeah you're
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right really well this isn't this is a pretty new problem yeah you know when you go back the farther
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you go back i've seen people even try to sit push it back to the 60s yeah you know what i mean they're
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like okay well if you go back to the 60s it's like all right no the you're right the trans uh violence
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problem was all probably not all that large in 1965 we're talking about something that's
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very recent and uh uh explicit i mean we've seen covers of magazines where trans people are opposing
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with firearms to uh to uh to show that they you should be intimidated by them the trans activist uh
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organization with the red star you know the marxist communist star has the trans people with
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with automatic weapons i mean that's part of the deal yeah there was an organization called what
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was it armed queers of salt lake city uh that deleted their account immediately after this yeah
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wonder why i wonder why i know the fbi is looking into him i talked to aaron sabarium has had an exclusive
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on on that and they're looking into um not only that person or that organization but a bunch of the
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people if you saw in the moments after the uh horrible incident with with with charlie kirk they
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they there were a lot of people who seemed to have prior knowledge of it that had tweeted specific
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things like i'd hate to see this happen on september 10th right things like that and you some of them
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some of them honestly might have very well just been people who wanted it to happen and they knew when
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he was coming yeah they knew when he was coming so it's possible and probable that some of those
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people were not related to it some of them though are so it would be the the coincidence of all
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coincidences if they had no knowledge or nothing to do with it could have been the case but hard to
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believe and the fact that a lot of these people were tied to these radical trans groups some of them
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even one of them in particular following in advance of the murders the roommate of the murderer
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now that is uh i mean again that's a heck of a coincidence uh if that's it has nothing to do
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with it maybe that's true i'm sure the i i do have some faith in the in uh cash patel that he's not
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going to overlook something like that if there is something really to look at 100 i am glad cash patel
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and dan bongino and president trump are the ones in charge not don't necessarily feel that way about pam
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bondi you know i i start to get a little better with pam bondi and then i go back down the hill
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you know i mean this this whole uh hate speech thing is really disturbing we're going to get into
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that in a minute but i find that really disturbing but cash patel i think is doing a fantastic job
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i'm no i actually know uh cory booker was yelling at him yesterday so we know he was not doing a good
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job uh whenever cory we have a minute to play this sarah oh no please don't oh go ahead cut
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six please i don't know cory that rant of false information does not bring this country together
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if you want to work on bringing this country it's my time not yours my god my god if you want to talk
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about fighting this country it is i follow you on your social media posts it's hard to address your
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falsehoods oh you can try all you want in this country not say it's my time for what you have
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stopped productive this is so unproductive but the reason why cash patel said it's my time my time
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welcome to the glennbeck program we're glad that you're here thank you so much for listening we're in
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phoenix arizona at turning point usa i'll be filling in for charlie kirk in his studio uh coming up in
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about an hour and a half should i be concerned here glenn what do you mean i i'm learning that you are on
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the cover of the jerusalem post i heard that yesterday and then also you're on the air today
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wearing an armband and i feel like those two things probably don't lead to good headlines really
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yeah yeah can you explain either one of them to me uh i can't explain the cover of the jerusalem
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post you can't it's no i can you well i mean i it does seem to be okay so now i'm seeing the the
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context of the article which is better than what i was hoping for you didn't even know the context
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well i mean i knew the basic i knew you were on the cover it's i see the picture of you but it does
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underneath top 10 christian voices for israel right and uh a real honor yeah looking to see
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who's on the top 10 yeah pastor greg laurie uh floyd mayweather that's interesting yeah uh dr johnny uh
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more uh douglas murray murray yeah i mean wow brandon tatum um that's great yeah that's a great collection
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this is uh that's interesting yeah uh that real it's an honor i don't know if that makes it
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safer for me to walk around oh gosh no it's a terrible uh uh terrible for that but i will say
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are you trying to like even that out by wearing a a fascist armband uh like you seem to be doing
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today is that what it is a fascist you don't know what it is you really don't know what it is yeah well i
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feel like uh yep let's say about 90 years ago the uh the the whole armband thing started going out
01:10:10.200
of style yeah yeah in certain circles yeah a certain certain circles embraced it um i just yeah up until
01:10:16.280
about 1950 maybe and maybe because i'm just a history buff uh i just think it's uh i just think it's
01:10:22.600
appropriate in this case up until about 1940 1950 if you had a a death in the family you would wear a black
01:10:29.560
armband um and it would know that it would just uh denote that you were in mourning and i i've never
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done that for a family member or anything else but um i thought for charlie kirk i thought it was
01:10:40.840
appropriate and i actually remembered it because i was in uh i was in idaho and i was in a parking lot
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of a grocery store and this guy comes up and he's wearing a t-shirt and he had taken black uh i don't even
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know what you call it you know that kind of tape they use now if you get like your blood drawn they use
01:10:58.520
that tape they just put it around your you know and it's kind of sticky but not sure he had taken
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black tape whatever that kind of tape is and he had put it around his arm and um he walked up to me
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and he said i'm with you brother and i didn't have an armband and he pointed to that and i said is that
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a morning armband and he said yeah i just made it i didn't have a cloth or anything i just made it
01:11:23.000
because i want people to know i'm thinking about charlie kirk and i just thought that was a cool
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gesture and so yeah that's that's it's it's either that or a black shirt armband from uh the from the
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times in italy i'm not i'm not sure which one of course it's for charlie kirk yeah i i did not know
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that you did that people did that honestly um i was sort of thinking that maybe you were just
01:11:47.320
constantly monitoring your blood pressure which would actually be a good move for you this week
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especially this it would be it would be especially when you look at what's happening with uh
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uh with pam bondy and now president trump yesterday yeah i'm not sure where this is going it feels
01:12:02.520
like uh not a good place not a good place not a good place pat do you have that audio yeah it's cut
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20 where uh the president stops and answers a whole bunch of press questions like he always does when
01:12:13.240
he was preparing for his trip to europe and john carl asks him a question and what do you think pam
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bondy's saying she's gonna go after hate speech uh is that i mean a lot of people a lot of your
01:12:24.680
allies say hate speech is free speech you probably go after people like you because you treat me so
01:12:29.800
unfairly it's hate you have a lot of hate in your heart maybe they'll come after abc well abc paid me
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16 million dollars recently for a form of hate speech right your company paid me 16 million dollars
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for a form of hate speech so maybe they'll have to go after you look we want everything to be fair it
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hasn't been fair and the radical left has done tremendous damage to the country but we're fixing
01:12:54.200
it we have right now the hottest country anywhere in the world and remember one year ago our country
01:13:00.920
was dead and now washington dc is dc is fixed and i fix it the mayor was fine the mayor the mayor was just
01:13:11.480
fine okay the mayor had the sick city for many years he's been there for many years the one that fixed it
01:13:18.200
was me and my people and it is so safe you should take your beautiful wife tonight and have dinner
01:13:24.280
down there you won't be shot you won't be accosted you won't even be looked at incorrectly by anybody
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i don't like the idea that he's saying we're going to go after you it's more of him just
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it's just him hustling with yeah that's him with the reporters um but we don't have hate speech that
01:13:45.640
that that is something from the left that is not something from the right if you start getting
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into the hate speech you end up being england if we start saying there is hate speech well when the
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other side is in they'll deem what we say is hate speech no there is no such thing as hate speech you
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you cannot be arrested or fined or anything else for what you say unless it directly leads to violence
01:14:15.240
directly leads to the supreme court is very clear on that this is why we have a first amendment
01:14:21.800
i can't believe we're the ones defending this we're separating of course threatening speech from from hate
01:14:27.240
speech it's just speech you don't like you don't you don't want to hear it and we've talked a million
01:14:31.240
times that's the only kind of speech that needs protection nobody cares about hey i love you
01:14:36.840
speech we don't mind that nobody has to protect that but what pam bondy said the other day was
01:14:42.680
absolutely chilling absolutely chilling first of all it's unconstitutional it's un-american and it's
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wrong second even if you're comfortable with the trump administration pam bondy prosecuting speech
01:14:55.080
what happens when another democrat is elected yeah when trump is no longer in office and it's
01:15:03.240
heaven forbid kamala harris are you going to be comfortable with it then i don't think so
01:15:08.200
we gotta nip this in the bud with our side you know and charlie you know as we mourn the loss
01:15:13.640
of charlie kirk this is something he felt really passionate about too he he wasn't for prosecuting
01:15:20.360
hate speech he was for talking things out and he showed that thousands of times
01:15:25.080
he and he was specifically against the hate speech stuff yeah he actually tweeted this this is in
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2024 he tweeted this hate speech does not exist legally in america there's ugly speech right there's
01:15:38.920
gross speech there's evil speech and all in capital letters of it is protected by the first amendment
01:15:45.480
keep america free now that is a as clear a statement as you can possibly make on what a fascist huh
01:15:52.360
what a fascist all speech is free my gosh why don't we just goose step through charlie kirk's life my
01:16:00.760
gosh how could you possibly say that about him that's an amazing statement it's infuriating what what
01:16:07.720
we know as he you know as what was written or engraved into these bullets right about him being a
01:16:14.200
fascist listen to what he none of these people even know that that's one of the things that's so
01:16:19.160
frustrating about it it's the same thing pat with the uh the guy in uh you know killing the health
01:16:23.720
care ceo he had this statement about the health care system and it wasn't even a middle school
01:16:30.040
understanding of the liberal arguments he didn't even know what he was talking about good yeah he
01:16:34.920
didn't even know what he was talking about yeah obviously the same thing here this guy he's saying
01:16:38.600
oh he had been planning this for a week is the most uh recent uh situation uh that it's all he was only
01:16:44.520
planning it for a week he seemingly knew nothing about what charlie cook actually stood for and yet
01:16:50.920
here we are as a country as his family mourning all of this over what you know over a 10 attention
01:16:59.480
seeking moron it's so frustrating and the the comment from from the shooter of that he couldn't tolerate
01:17:08.520
his hate any longer and then to uh shoot somebody down in cold blood he didn't even he didn't
01:17:16.600
understand the definition of hate speaking to people and conversing and having a dialogue and trying to
01:17:23.240
uh influence hearts and minds is that's not hate hatred is when you do violence against people that's
01:17:30.680
that's the hate and that disconnect with the left is really startling and and kind of a concern i would
01:17:37.640
say at this point yeah and you when you see like i think there's been maybe i don't know four people
01:17:44.600
on the left that have actually reacted to this in a in a sane uh way but we see them at you so you
01:17:49.720
realize that yeah yeah wow i mean i may be over counting you might be like i as reclines a good
01:17:54.760
example of this that i that i i thought he both of his statements first of all he came out and said
01:17:59.720
you know charlie kirk i didn't agree with him but he he was doing politics the right way yeah he was
01:18:04.040
going to colleges he was debating people and then when hit the left wing uh his audience pushed back
01:18:10.520
against him he stood his ground and said this is it's affected him in a real way and and and you know
01:18:18.600
look this shouldn't be a dark this shouldn't be an argument this should not be a borderline issue
01:18:24.040
uh yet i i you know pat i keep seeing this all over i i i hope it's a minority but it the fact that how
01:18:31.960
this this many people are willing to stand up publicly and film themselves reacting to a murder
01:18:37.960
this way it's incredible is legitimately shocking even to people like us who are a tad jaded yeah
01:18:44.840
yeah um no question tad completely i mean if if a tad by by that you mean completely jaded yeah it's
01:18:54.280
accurate i would say i mean pat you have to give me a break i'm working with a guy who's wearing an
01:18:58.040
arm band that's right now that's that's not an arm band celebrating armed queer salt lake city though
01:19:05.080
is it yeah i think you i i well that is that what they meant by arms is that what they meant by arms
01:19:10.600
i'm not sure maybe yeah okay well we'll see we'll see uh okay coming up in a minute we have um there's
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a great story let me see where this is from the federalists they did the five lies about charlie kirk
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and these are the lies that are going around about him everywhere and it it is stunning when you
01:19:28.120
actually hear what people are saying and then you know if you've watched charlie kirk or knew charlie
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kirk for more than five minutes you know all of these things are lies but most people don't um and
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common sense ain't common anymore is it time to wake up and wrangle the sheep
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welcome to the glenn beck program uh we are in uh turning point usa their facilities uh today
01:21:43.480
getting ready in about an hour to move over to another one of their buildings this campus is
01:21:47.960
really unbelievable um and uh we're going to be moving over to charlie's uh building where his studio
01:21:53.960
is his staff could not join us at four o'clock in the morning they were like can can you guys work
01:21:59.000
in another studio and just set it up yourself we're like yes we can uh they haven't had any sleep at
01:22:04.920
all for for days um but uh we're going over there so i'm going to do that show we have some breaking news
01:22:10.920
on that show um so if you can make sure you're listening to charlie's show you can listen to it
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online at tpusa.com um and um and then i think i'm doing part of another show after that oh that's
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it oh yeah wow that's it well the good news is uh you look exhausted already so you got that going
01:22:30.120
for you thank you thank you pat i appreciate that i appreciate that yeah no no problem yeah
01:22:36.440
it's been uh it's been exhausting i can't imagine what everybody feels like here
01:22:40.040
i mean i mean i you know we hadn't mentioned this but this is one week we are here yeah one
01:22:47.800
week after this happened oh my gosh you're right this last wednesday you know i mean a week ago
01:22:54.760
you know he was doing a show isn't this geez pat and stew you were with me on 9-11 is isn't this
01:23:03.560
is that the closest thing we have to compare this to i mean this feels like 9-11 i remember feel like it
01:23:09.960
right yeah i wake up with that i would go for my stomach every day yeah and i i'd wake up or i
01:23:17.560
mean i'd be totally fine it's happened to me today right before we went on the air totally fine and
01:23:23.320
then all of a sudden just like choke up with emotion and you're like i'm gonna cry again and
01:23:28.280
i haven't i haven't gone through that since 9-11 it feels like the country's changed that's what it
01:23:35.320
feels like i mean it really feels like we've lost something serious and that's the same feeling i
01:23:39.720
had after 9-11 i feel like we've gained something though too it might be a change i mean and this
01:23:45.640
would be very much uh consistent with the name turning point yeah and charlie's project as a whole
01:23:52.280
but maybe it leads to something really positive and it's certainly not a a an event that you'd you'd
01:24:00.280
ever wish for but you know i think if something like this were to have happened if charlie had knowledge
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of it certainly what he would hope for is that i think number one people came to christ over it
01:24:12.680
um but and i think that's happening i think it's happening massively massively across all over the
01:24:18.120
world yeah yeah all over the world that's right you're right all over the world we're seeing this
01:24:21.400
in countries all over the world people who hadn't gone to i mean i can't tell you how many posts i've
01:24:25.160
seen on you know social media where people are saying i haven't been to church in five years and 10 years
01:24:29.480
in 15 years and i'm going this weekend and it's not it doesn't strike me like on 9-11 people went to
01:24:37.320
church the next sunday because everybody was afraid yeah and that's i don't think that's the feeling
01:24:43.800
here i i think the feeling is this pull of god you know this pull of there's something more important
01:24:52.920
here something we're missing something that will help me make sense of everything in the world do you
01:24:58.600
agree with that yeah i think so it's different but there the feeling there's a lot of similarity as
01:25:04.440
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So we arrived about 4, 4.30 this morning at Turning Point USA, and it is an odd place
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You had to go through security to get here, lots of security to get here.
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But it's about this time that people start to funnel in and then start to go and leave
01:29:48.560
And it's a large city block, long, large city block.
01:29:54.620
And there are, the sidewalks are probably what, 8, 10 feet deep, easy, 10 feet?
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And it's just covered with notes and packages and flowers and balloons and teddy bears.
01:30:09.120
And I mean, it's really incredible what's happening, the outpouring.
01:30:16.860
And as you mentioned earlier, the world, really.
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We were just talking about the five lies that are going around about Charlie Kirk.
01:30:31.960
And it's reprehensible on what is going on because the people who are saying these things,
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who are starting these things, they really need, I mean, they know.
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You really think that, Stephen King, you really think that Charlie Kirk is for the stoning of gay people?
01:30:53.140
I do think, though, a lot of these people have an image of everyone on the right.
01:31:08.300
Now, King, you know, in particular, I think, like, I don't think Stephen King was lying on that.
01:31:13.080
I think he's, you know, I don't think he's the, you know, the sharpest knife in the drawer.
01:31:22.120
But I think he is so completely isolated in his bubble that, you know, like, you know, if someone says something terrible about a person like Charlie Kirk and your image of him is he's basically Hitler,
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You're like, oh, of course, that guy's that, he's that terrible human being.
01:31:46.160
I mean, and, you know, it's like, you know, if you ran into a quote from Hitler you had never seen that was negative on Jews, you know, as a journalist, you should probably check it.
01:31:56.520
But, like, you might think, oh, yeah, that was probably true.
01:31:59.920
That's how they think about people who are, like, normal conservatives who want lower taxes and less regulation.
01:32:16.860
The first one is Charlie Kirk said black people were better off in slavery.
01:32:21.700
How big of an idiot do you think you have to be to believe that?
01:32:26.460
I mean, unless you're Crockett, unless your last name is Crockett and I don't mean Davey.
01:32:41.560
Now, what you're probably getting this from, and I'm going searching, I mean, I am on a metal, I'm with a metal detector on the beach with, you know, board shorts and sandals and socks looking for anything that kind of even sounds like that.
01:32:57.560
But Charlie Kirk did say that, you know, they were talking about Jim Crow and how evil Jim Crow was.
01:33:03.740
But he said, but if you look at the family, the black family before the passage of the Civil Rights Act, which ended the Jim Crow laws, he said the family was thriving.
01:33:17.080
Um, and it was, it was blacks had a lower divorce rate than whites did in, I think, 1961.
01:33:26.540
Um, they, uh, uh, their families were stronger.
01:33:35.280
I mean, it, something happened around the time of the Civil Rights Act.
01:33:40.440
Now, my theory is the Civil Rights Act was a, uh, was done by progressives.
01:33:47.740
I mean, these are the guys who said no to the Civil Rights Act just four years before and, and, and worked hard to stop the Civil Rights Act.
01:33:57.480
The assassination of President Kennedy, that changed your mind?
01:34:03.500
Um, I mean, uh, Johnson was the biggest racist up until he, uh, up until he died.
01:34:11.620
My theory, this is just a theory, but my theory is, is because finally the progressives had a way to, um, keep blacks under their thumb and destroy the family and destroy them as people.
01:34:25.860
I mean, the Civil Rights Act and the, more of the Great Society, the Great Society did more damage to the black family than, than, than anybody could have done outside of Margaret Sanger.
01:34:43.520
It was evil, uh, you know, Jim Crow, et cetera, et cetera.
01:34:47.700
But if you look at the numbers on specifics, family, et cetera, et cetera, blacks were doing better as families before the Great Society.
01:34:58.760
And I think that undoing is absolutely, um, is absolutely tied to it.
01:35:08.240
Um, also the next claim is that, uh, that, uh, Charlie Kirk said black women have inferior intelligence.
01:35:16.640
Now, they're quoting him saying that black women don't have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.
01:35:25.360
How, how bad does your image have to be of people on the other side to believe that they could say that?
01:35:36.480
I mean, just like, but if you were to, you know, I think about this a lot of times when I think about how we react to crazy statements on the left.
01:35:44.000
Like my reaction, a lot of times when I hear someone saying that is, wait a minute.
01:35:51.000
Even if they believe that they wouldn't just blurt it out.
01:35:57.000
That should be your first question when you want to do a quote like that.
01:36:04.720
Until you get to the last paragraph when they say, well, we should point out, he wasn't talking about all black women.
01:36:13.780
He was talking about four specific black women.
01:36:18.200
So, he was talking about Joy Reid, absolutely true.
01:36:26.000
Ketanji Brown Jackson, Jackson Brown, absolutely true.
01:36:38.240
And Michelle Obama, which I don't think is true.
01:36:40.520
I think Michelle Obama is actually rather smart and conniving and just flat out evil.
01:36:47.080
I mean, Ketanji Brown Jackson, you know, for all of the flaws I would have with her as a Supreme Court justice, obviously isn't a moron.
01:36:53.820
But she is, I mean, I would say Sotomayor, I would be more confident in saying she's a moron.
01:36:59.020
Though, I am, for the job that she has, Ketanji Brown Jackson is a moron.
01:37:10.040
Again, those two, I think, would fall into the same category.
01:37:12.560
And you're right, Michelle Obama, I would not call an idiot.
01:37:15.040
But, you know, again, criticizing four members of a group does not mean you're criticizing the group.
01:37:23.480
He was criticizing people he thought were unqualified to make statements of any intelligence on whatever topic it was that he was talking about.
01:37:35.440
And what they did is they said, he thinks that all black women are just dumb.
01:37:43.900
Charlie Kirk said that gun deaths, unfortunately, worth it to keep the Second Amendment.
01:37:50.880
This is one that a lot of people on the left are using as justification for their celebration.
01:37:58.260
He said, you know, well, you just got to deal with the deaths if you want to have a Second Amendment.
01:38:04.740
And, you know, I don't know if you have the context.
01:38:09.740
You will never live in a society where you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death.
01:38:23.660
I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so you can have the Second Amendment right to protect your other God-given rights.
01:38:40.600
I mean, if you have a free society, you take risks with it.
01:38:46.340
There will always be people, horrible, horrible human beings that all seem to donate to Democrat causes that will do things like we saw one week ago today.
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And that is, you know, again, you can't speak for Charlie Kirk.
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But, you know, even what occurred last week would not change his mind on that.
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He even, even, he would not say, well, we should, now that something terrible has happened to me and my family, we should overturn the Second Amendment and people shouldn't have a right to defend themselves.
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And this is, if anything, pointing to his incredible consistency on the rights that we have in this country.
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You know, it is a sad, unfortunate fact about so many things.
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It's a sad, unfortunate fact about automobile travel that you do have to deal with some automobile accidents when you have highways where you can drive 55, 65, 75 miles an hour.
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It's unreasonable to think that you could live in a society with automobiles and not have some automobile accidents.
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And frankly, the other thing that's important here to understand is if you did eliminate all guns, you would not eliminate all murders.
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I'm just going to say it's what happens sometimes with armor.
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There's a very famous saying about armor that has nothing to do with the Chinese or Asian at all.
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But I'm not even going to put those together in this context now for you.
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But the thing that's going around is he used that slur to yell at an Asian woman in the audience.
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Now, again, what kind of monster or how stupid?
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I mean, how stupid would Charlie Kirk have to be, okay?
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He was screaming something at a woman when they were talking about capitalism, and he was yelling,
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You know, like the other one was the Stephen King situation where he quoted some horrible
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And again, he admitted eventually that it was false.
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But he was quoting someone else in an incident and critiquing that position, which was a bad
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position, but he was bringing it up to quote it and critique it, which is a very standard
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I mean, this is a standard tactic of media matters.
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When you're quoting someone else or you're saying something, they'll act as if you say it.
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You repeat a lie often enough and the public will remember it.
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Yeah, Hitler said that, but that's not what I was saying.
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Again, if you had something against Charlie Kirk, you wouldn't need to go to this stuff.
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If our opinion of Kirk, which was a guy who worked hard to debate people, who tried to
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practice politics and civic life the right way, who tried to be a shining light for his
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faith, which was vitally important to him and his family.
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If that vision of Charlie Kirk was false, you wouldn't need to go to these things.
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You could come up with 50 different things he said that were really offensive.
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Instead, what you come up with are lies because that's what you're in the business of.
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We now know, and we'll have more on this later today on the Charlie Kirk show and then on
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tomorrow, but we now know that the Chinese and Russia are involved with disinformation campaigns
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based on Charlie Kirk trying to get us to push us into civil war.
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So just be very careful what you read online and don't necessarily repeat everything that
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Pat Gray, thank you for being sitting there just in case something goes wrong in Dallas.
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And you're going to take the show over here for a few minutes.
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Um, uh, in just a minute because, uh, Stu and I have to take the long walk.
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I haven't seen anybody yet except for security from Turning Point.
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I, I, it's going to be really hard to be in that studio.
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So, uh, uh, you know, just considering everything going on.
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Somebody's going to be a, a ball of tears in about half an hour would be my guess.
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Uh, uh, a somewhat, uh, emotional commercial without breaking down.
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I can't even imagine what this is going to be like.
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I, it's all, I think this has hit people in ways that they didn't really even expect.
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Uh, and, uh, man, it's, it's just so impossible.
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And then you start thinking of everything that's going on out because we, we tend to process
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these things in our own experience, you know, um, and then you start thinking about, you
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know, his family and everything they're going through.
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It is, it is just going to be very difficult, by the way, good time to bring up gives and
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If you want to help and say, say, thank you to Charlie and for all the work and Erica for
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all the work that they've done, um, you know, if you can help it, it would be greatly appreciated.
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There's a couple of things that are going to be hard for me, um, today.
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Um, but, um, uh, I brought something for the show today that I, I mean, I would tell a story
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that I've never told anybody before about Charlie.
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Um, and it just shows his grace and his, but I, I thought about it yesterday and, um, as
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I was thinking about that conversation, I went into the vaults and I pulled something out.
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Um, and, and I, I, I, I, I spent all day yesterday thinking about what he told me.
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And, uh, so I, I'm going to, I'm going to start there, um, today.
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And then also my daughter and David Osmond were in the studio late last night, uh, um,
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working all night on a tribute song that, uh, David and, and Cheyenne, you know, Cheyenne
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really wanted to come to the funeral on Sunday, but she's like, I don't think I can handle it,
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And she said, I don't, I don't think I can handle it, but she made a tribute song along
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with David Osmond and I haven't even heard it yet.
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I, so I'm going to play it for the first time me hearing it too.
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Glenn and Stu just left the show because they're setting up to do Charlie's show over
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in the actual, in Charlie's studio, which I guess they weren't in this morning.
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So they're going over there to get it all ready and have it up by, what is it, noon Eastern
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So, meanwhile, we've been talking about some of the follow-up of the court appearance yesterday
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And they're looking into other aspects and other people and other groups.
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Because it seems like a lot of people knew about it in advance.
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And we're starting to hear some of that information.
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Is that people said things that might have been just coincidence, but other things that
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probably weren't coincidence and maybe foreknowledge of this?
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But one of the groups they're looking into is a trans group in Salt Lake City called Armed
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Now, I don't know if anybody else has noticed this.
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I have lived in Utah on two separate occasions, six years at a time, and each of those broken
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But I'll tell you, the changes that have occurred in Utah and Salt Lake City over the years have
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I moved to Utah the first time from Montana in the early 80s.
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So, when I arrived there as a 20 or 21-year-old kid, I guarantee that had I sought out a local chapter
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I would have been greatly disappointed in my search at that time.
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No, I don't even think the starter group was in place quite yet.
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It's amazing how much Salt Lake City, Utah has changed.
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And now they've got groups like Armed Queers, SLC, and they must be very proud of that.
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Which comes with a trans person armed with an AK-47 or something.
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And meanwhile, everybody on the left is still trying to say this was done by someone on the right.
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This is a conservative Republican who committed this killing of Charlie Kirk.
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I know Glenn and Stu played this earlier, but I wanted to touch on it as well.
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Jimmy Kimmel, talking about how desperate MAGA is to portray the killer as not one of them.
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And this is where we continue to see the polls saying about the spin.
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We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize
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this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything
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I mean, the guy is one of theirs and they're trying to blame us for it.
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It's a big surprise they don't have the viewership for those late night shows.
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Because I'm sure it can't be just because they're babbling buffoons.
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I think his deal actually goes for another three or four years.
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Jimmy Fallon are both kind of locked in for a while.
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Fallon's not as bad as Colbert and Kimmel, but he's still occasionally agonizing.
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I mean, I don't remember now, but I think he's the one that they cut back to four nights
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Without the 200 employee personnel, you've got to have 200 to 250.
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The lie is being perpetuated, though, on the left, that this was somebody on the right.
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Has the biggest following of any individual on Substack.
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And is spreading, I guess, Richardson has 2.6 million subscribers.
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By no means is she a fringe figure, nor, at least on the surface, radical, according to this article.
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I don't know who she is, so maybe she is radical.
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But on Sunday, Richardson spread the ridiculous lie that Charlie Kirk's suspected assassin is somehow conservative.
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And he disliked Kirk because he was not right-wing enough.
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And maybe because we tested this out on my show the other day with Grok 4.
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And Grok 4 claimed that this shooter was angry with Kirk because he wasn't conservative enough.
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But she wrote, in fact, the alleged shooter was not someone on the left.
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The alleged killer is a young white man from a Republican gun enthusiast family who appears to have embraced the far right, disliking Kirk for being insufficiently radical.
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And how do you stick to that when, you know, the court hearing yesterday produced the text exchange between the killer and his roommate?
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You could make the case like ABC did, though, of how loving it was.
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And I think he himself fell in love after discovering how sweet and tender it was.
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Here's what the ABC reporter had to say about the exchange.
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We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it.
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But also, it was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect, a very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling him, my love, and I want to protect you, my love.
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So, it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case.
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And on the other hand, he's speaking so lovingly about his partner.
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He's lovingly speaking about his partner that he loved.
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You know, as we talked about on my show this morning, that five years ago, you couldn't have predicted that we would be in the place where we are right now, where you've got an ABC News reporter, a network ABC reporter, saying things like this, trying to reposition this killer as somebody who's loving.
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Now, when we already had all the news about what he was, which he also mentioned in the text between he and his roommate, all of the engravings that he put on.
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Hey, fascist, catch, Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Bella Chow, which are songs, which are lyrics from an Italian song, used as a rally cry for anti-fascist resistance fighters during World War II.
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Uh, then he also read, uh, wrote on these bullets, if you read this, you are gay, LMAO.
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Yeah, and what, what was the report on the, on his, uh, uh, girlfriend that, uh.
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So she really, she really has played a big role in his, uh, in his transition.
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Although, I, you know, when you read the text between them, he was confused about, wait,
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Uh, he seemed to be upset that he might've been the killer.
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And Governor Cox in Utah presented him as if he'd been helpful.
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You know, the roommate has been helpful the whole time.
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We're still, we're still in this place where it just.
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Wake up with that pit in my stomach every morning.
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I was, we were talking about this the other day.
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I never, I never did have a chance to meet him.
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The, uh, the compound, the campus there of Turning Point USA is pretty darn impressive.
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And it's going to be, you know, appearing to be stronger than ever.
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You know, it's going to, it's going to grow the, the mission.
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It's Pat and Jeffy finishing off the Glenn Beck program for Glenn and Stu, who are on their
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way right now to getting Charlie Kirk's studio up and operational and doing the show from
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Because his wife said that it was going to continue on.
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On a different subject entirely, did you happen to see that the Publishers Clearinghouse, the
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big sweepstakes people, really the original ones, the ones I know of originally.
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That's what we know them from, as the Publishers Clearinghouse Prize Patrol.
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But you wanted them showing up at your house with the giant check and the cameras and the
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But they put all the money that people won, these big prize winners that the Prize Patrol
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I guess it's a pay-as-you-go thing, which is...
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They supposedly gave away this money, which you can't...
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It's not like the lottery where you can take the upfront payment and then be done with
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But I will say that's why you take the cash payout, man.
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Because they keep saying, well, 30 years, and the money keeps growing, and that's what you
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Yeah, and 15 years down the road, the lottery says, ah, we're broke.
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Anybody, and the new company who purchased Publishers Clearinghouse just said, any winner
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prior to July 15th of this year, sorry, just no more payments.
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How is it possible that they didn't put that money aside into an account that would accrue
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Well, I don't know how the bankruptcy judge allows them to take it over without covering
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Because what was left, I think I read, it was like they had at least 26 million left
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to pay out for whatever, how many other people they had had won prizes.
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And it only ended up being like a million a year or whatever for the next, well, a lifetime.
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And they were guessing that most of it would be like 26 years down the road.
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Yeah, I know that you were getting 5,000 a week for the last 20 years, but no longer.
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You counted on that, but nah, you might as well not.
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I get the whole thing where they should have saved it.
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Well, yeah, but if you get that money every week or if you were getting a check once a