'Living In a Algorithm Ghetto' - 4⧸18⧸18
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1 hour and 52 minutes
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159.82144
Summary
Baby Alfie is dying, but not really dying. He s withering, and if you look closer, you ll see that the bed is stained with urine that the nurses haven t changed. A dime-sized splotch of mold lines the tubing that helps Alfie breathe.
Transcript
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The mechanical clank and the whir of machinery hammers the air, pulsating like an enormous clock.
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The metronome of the beep of the heart monitor fills the cramped hospital room.
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In the hospital room, a little miniaturized bed with rails and buttons and knobs,
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surrounded by flowers, some fresh, others dry and wilted, long past due.
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In the bed, a resting two-year-old, sleeping in a nest of wires, thorny and prodded.
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When you rest your hand around his little fist, his eyes open, but a tired look.
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His eyes open wide. He's sitting next to a smiling, pale blue teddy bear,
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tiny and peaceful and quiet in his gray Mickey Mouse sweater.
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His name, or what he's known as in England, is Baby Alfie.
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Baby Alfie is dying, but not really dying. He's withering.
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And if you look closer, you will see that the bed occasionally is stained with urine that the nurses haven't changed.
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A dime-sized splotch of mold lines the tubing that helps Alfie breathe.
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Now 23 and a half months old, Alfie has been at the Alderhey Children's Hospital in Liverpool since December of 2016.
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At the heart of the struggle is yet another terse, brutal, upsetting question.
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The sanctity of life, the importance of proper health care, the downfalls of a socialistic health care system,
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But what matters most perhaps is parental rights.
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Let's get this baby out of a hospital that has callously signed his death certificate while he is still fighting for his life.
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Now, Alfie's parents, Tom Evans, 21, and Kate James, she's 20, have tried everything.
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Maybe it's a rare brain disease, but they don't know.
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What we do know is that doctors and health care officials in England have ordered that baby Alfie is to have his life support removed.
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Tom and Kate have tried everything under the law, regional court, the court of appeals, the Supreme Court.
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And every time, just like before, the judges have ruled in the favor of the doctors and the health care officials they know best.
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And there seems to be a fuming hopelessness to Tom's eyes anytime he leaves the courtroom in his white Alfie equals life t-shirt.
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At times, he's angry that the desperate anger of injustice, the utter disbelief.
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A 21-year-old father who cannot now even touch his son.
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If he did, he'll be thrown into jail for assault.
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I have seen the pictures that aren't being published over in Great Britain of the mold inside of the breathing tube.
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His words rush along so hurriedly and so thick with accent that many sources, even in England, include subtitles.
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The National Health Service in Britain is a clogged and failing health care system.
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And it has no space or time for critically ill children.
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Even if the hospital's maltreatment has largely contributed to the child's conditions, they move on.
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Alfie's struggle is reminiscent of the case of Charlie Gard, an 11-month-old with a rare genetic disorder whose parents fought to keep him alive,
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only to have the NHS transfer him to hospice, where despite his parents' pleas to try different methods, to try anything at all, to let him come home, he died.
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Outside the hospital, where Alfie's fighting for his life, a band of protesters are passionate, at times, to a fault.
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Tom and Kate have publicly apologized for the disruption of the protesters.
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If you've ever seen anyone on life support, it's awful, and you know it.
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All of the medical equipment looms massively over this baby's little body.
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But all those awful machines are helping him fight for life.
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They're buying him time so the doctors can figure out what's going on.
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Aren't we all supposed to fight until we're exhausted to keep the flame of life alive?
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They've had hospitals offer to intervene, only to have the NHS step in and say,
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The Pope, once again, has offered to fly the baby to Italy
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to take the child into treatment under the Catholic Church in a hospital in Rome.
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There is an ambulance on call outside of the hospital
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and a private jet waiting to take him to the Pope.
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I am praying for Alfienis, for his family, and for all those involved.
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But the British government says they know better.
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I was always taught that our lives belong to God.
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But in England, we're being taught that your life belongs to the state.
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He's the author of several really important books,
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including IBM and the Holocaust and War Against the Weak.
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His name is Edwin Black, and he joins us in studio.
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So, you know, I've been thinking a lot about you
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and your really important work that you have done
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on the Holocaust and, in particular, the War Against the Weak.
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I think, the same kind of things start up again
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with the same kinds of excuses that we saw in Germany
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now that we're talking about getting rid of all Down syndrome,
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not because we found a way to genetically splice or to face,
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but just through abortion, just through killing them.
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It does concern me, and your remarks are quite moving and poignant,
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and we should all be deeply concerned, as we have, about this case
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I think that your remarks were most interesting.
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When does a person's life cease becoming under his own domain
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or his family's domain and become public property,
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when ships were required to stay out to sea 40 days,
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a quattro giorno, which came up with the concept of quarantine.
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That was the moment when medicine ceased to serve the individual
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and started to be diverted to the public welfare.
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When I wrote War Against the Weak, which was over a decade ago,
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I warned that the racial dogma and national flags
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And unfortunately, the tsunami is coming closer to us
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Just a few days ago, I was in the Michigan Capitol Rotunda
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and I introduced a concept called the algorithm ghetto.
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Just as there was a move to create anti-genetic discrimination legislation
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we're now threatened by the potentiality that individuals could be cut off
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in a cashless society with the press of a button.
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It will no longer be necessary for Goebbels to send a minder into the newsroom
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where you think you're shouting from the rooftops
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If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, did the tree fall?
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if Glenn Beck calls the world out on baby Alpha
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And so therefore, the big movers in this process now
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but it's actually Google, it's Facebook, it's Twitter,
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It will be very possible for Facebook and Twitter to say
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that this is a distressing topic and they have been doing that.
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and then we'll come back and talk more about this.
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What's really interesting is that sounds to most people,
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and I remember I went to the bookstore and I bought it
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but boy, oh boy, IBM and everybody else came after you
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And yet here was this giant corporation that in the end
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had to admit that you were right, that it did happen.
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Now you're warning about the same kinds of collusion,
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And people will say, not possible, not going to happen.
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And those same corporations will be your biggest enemy.
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and I want to talk to Edwin Black, War Against the Weak.
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We'll talk to him a little bit about the value of the individual,
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and what we should be paying attention to when we come back.
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This is a two-year-old in a hospital in England.
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And unfortunately, you're seeing it now in Holland and Iceland,
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where you are carrying a child with Down syndrome,
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We've seen something come out of the Dutch government
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where they are now starting to weigh a person's life
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And Edwin, this is all stuff we've seen before.
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and which I'm most unhappy to hear is coming true.
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It will no longer be, as I said, about your skin color,
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then we are closer to this precipice than I ever thought,
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We're actually doing that in many ways in a passive way now
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by creating economic structures and economic bars
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And I think that the single most threatening manifestation of this,
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Well, they're already doing this in China, Stu.
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where I've introduced a concept called the algorithm ghetto.
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how many potatoes can a man earn or make or grow?
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And if you're eating more than you're producing,
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and they would have been able to implement it even stronger,
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They had the Holoreth Group during World War II,
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and they were measuring how many calories per day
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was necessary to starve the entire Polish ghetto to death.
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IBM and the Holocaust and War Against the Weak,
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When, you know, when are you property of the state
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because how many states were sterilizing people
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had non-sterilization means of eliminating people,
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even some states that did not forcibly sterilize
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engaged in what you have referred to with Alfie,
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that came up with the concept of the black stork,
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we read the rules around here and we discovered
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five years it balances and then we've added what
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broader than anybody's ever contemplated so we can get a real marketplace in
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health care and drive prices down are you going to be able to
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have this even introduced i mean mcconnell controls what's what's going to be
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you know coming that's the interesting thing about the rules since they did not do
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their job and they're not going to introduce a budget mine is a privileged
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motion and it will get a vote now i can't make these people vote for
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something like a balanced budget but i can sure the heck shame them by sticking it
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right in front of their face and saying you have to vote up or down
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on whether or not you're for balancing the budget and guess what
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about all the democrats will vote no we know that
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but about half the republicans or a little more than half will vote against this
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republicans don't have the spine to actually vote to cut any spending how can
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you disagree with a one percent uh cut across the board i mean that's
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exactly my point how can you possibly there's one percent waste in every
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government program up here yes even if you love the government program even if
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you say well the federal government needs to be in charge of of uh national
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defense i'm with you but i think we can have a strong defense and cut one percent
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because i think what it does like right now there's three billion dollars a
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year being spent in afghanistan in the last three years i think they found three
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billion that's unaccounted for just in afghanistan i mean you if you have
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a never-ending supply of cash you sometimes don't appreciate it
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until you're like hey wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute we got to watch
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where every penny is going here i i there's 28 million dollars missing in
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uniforms somebody was supposed to get uniforms i don't know who got the
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uniforms but somebody got the 28 million this is just in afghanistan
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700 million dollars in ammunition so that's pretty dangerous if you don't know
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who got the ammunition so what if the ammunition actually was went to the
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enemy you know they can't account for it so 700 million dollars was misplaced
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that was supposed to buy ammunition just in afghanistan so absolutely they
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need they you know they need to be audited and a one percent across the
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board cut um and if you don't want to do it the interesting thing about the way
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i've written my budget is let's say you don't want to cut the military at all and
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you're willing to cut uh four or five percent of everything else they can do
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that too but if they don't come up with a plan then it would be a one percent
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across the board so rand i feel like all of these weasels are you know rats are
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jumping the ship from uh the gop and getting out while the getting is good
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because they know what they've they've done and they know what's coming um a
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significant pushback from the voters on on business as usual there but i can't i
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can't help but think they're leaving us with economic disasters uh and they're
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going to get their pension they're going to be fine they'll get their sweet job
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and who's who's going to come in and change anything well i think what it is is
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they all want to get their plum lobbying jobs and the sooner they get out of
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congress the sooner they can get their million dollar a year lobbying job and i
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think they think that they might as well do it while they're in the majority
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because they've gone from a position of power to a position of uh sort of uh crony
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capitalist corruption which is where the racket in lobbying so i personally would
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make a rule that you can't go from congress to lobbying i just have a lifetime
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ban and a few years ago i tried to introduce that and you would not believe
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the pushback i got when i tried to introduce a ban on lobbying for my members
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of congress and so uh that's it but the thing is is you know the battle for the
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country goes on the battle for the heart and soul of the country goes on
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conservatives have to have some movement we can't just say oh it's done we're
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now in power so we are no longer conservative and i've said it before and
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i'll say it again republicans are the conservative party when they're in the
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minority but then once they're in the majority there is no conservative party
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that's where we are now unless some of us speak up and say we're not voting for
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the massive spending increases we're not voting for trillion dollar deficits and
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by golly we're not just going to play a game and introduce the
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the budget and balanced budget amendment we're actually going to introduce
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balanced budget when are you when are you introducing this it'll be introduced
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uh this week and the vote we're not sure exactly when it comes but we believe
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they cannot prevent us from having a vote hopefully within the next few weeks
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all right um we'll follow it and we'll make sure that the audience follows it let
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me ask you a couple of other um questions first on syria um you you said
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um yesterday something that i think is being used uh in two different ways and i
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want you to clarify where you stand you you said we don't have any evidence
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that uh syria actually use these chemical weapons are you are you saying look we've
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had mistakes in intelligence before let's get it right and let's make sure we get
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it right or are you saying uh you know it's this looks like a false flag it looks
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like a british uh setup or or one of these things that is there's also being
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spouted by some on the on the on the right i wanted to make two points yesterday one
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point is that it doesn't make any sense for assad he's been winning the war for two
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or three years he's actually more secure in his position right now than he's been the
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only thing that can galvanize western opposition to him is chemical weapons so
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you have to scratch your head and say he's either the dumbest dictator on the
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planet to use chemical weapons when traditional weapons kill as many or more
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either the dumbest dictator on the planet or he didn't do it
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now yesterday i said i had not seen any evidence and we had had no briefings
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yesterday afternoon though after those interviews i did have a briefing
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we were not presented with detailed evidence of it but we were presented with
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the conclusions of our intelligence community that said he did it
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the hard part about this is they're making a conclusion before we've had any
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samples taken of of anything they there are some groups on the ground that will
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take samples today and i don't know that there is was any
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evidence presented that either russia or iran were complicit in this
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they are involved with the syrian government but there's no evidence that
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they were complicit the question i ask and the this is not a classified
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question or an answer is why uh do you think what do you think would be
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assad's reasoning for doing something that galvanizes the world's opposition to him
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when he appears to be winning by not using chemical weapons and uh i think
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hang on perhaps go ahead go ahead go ahead they said perhaps other people could have
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made the decision at a lower level you know like some other general makes it maybe
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assad doesn't do it but nobody really had a good explanation for why he would do
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something i have one that brings on that brings on so much uh uh unanimity of the world against
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him i have one um the group that he uh targeted allegedly uh is a group that had been
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hunkered down uh they have extensive uh resources underground and it is the last stronghold
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that that was really holding out because he is winning but these were fight until the death
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kind of uh people that had really prepared this whole section uh and the the estimates were that
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it was going to take about a year to be able to fight their way through and the the question is
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if you can use chemical weapons in the same way in some ways that we used uh the atomic bomb in japan
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and it will get them to surrender uh maybe it's worth doing that group that had just the week
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before said we're not surrendering they surrendered the very next day yeah and there was a few hundred
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of them so it doesn't sound that formidable but i think your explanation could possibly be right so
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i'm not saying they did or didn't use them i'm just saying it doesn't make a lot of logical sense
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for them to do it but you're right the rebels did end up leaving they under a truce i don't know
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they surrendered they left the area i don't know that they uh turned themselves over as prisoners
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yes um the other things that are perplexing about this is i don't think the rebels actually lived in
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that community so the rebels weren't liked uh by the people living there either um but uh you're
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right in the end the assad got the result and perhaps assad calculates that the response by the u.s
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will be a pinprick and that maybe the cruise missiles do blow up some buildings but they don't
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necessarily uh you know have enough punishment that they feel it's that they've been so punished
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that it wasn't worth it to them so maybe they do judge it and say that well yeah the world will
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react they'll drop a few bombs and then we'll go on our merry way but we got rid of those rebels in
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that area there's a possibility that they do look at it and say that strategically it is in their interest
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so you've also said that you are um not going to support uh mike pompeo for the secretary of state
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there's news coming out today that he has already met with kim jong-un um and is now in kind of in
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the middle of uh you know what what is being described by some as you know our last chance
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for peace um does that change your calculus at all and if not why it it i think it heartens me that
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president trump has uh has envoys going to speak with north korea um in my conversations with the
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president i've always advocated that we should try to seek a non-military solution to north korea if
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at all possible so i'm heartened by it on the fact that the president you know directed this
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um with regard to congressman or director pompeo my main objection is sort of that he i'm not so sure
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that he agrees with trump and that he will he let trump be trump or will he be advising him in a way
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that goes against the better instinct so for example president trump has always said that the
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iraq war was a huge mistake and strategic blunder for the country pompeo's never expressed that and
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really has expressed the opposite views on afghanistan the president has said we completed
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our mission and he's advocated many times for coming home pompeo has the opposite opinion that
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we should stay and uh the same with syria you know the president has talked about actually coming
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home as soon as two weeks before until we had this uh chemical weapons uh you know attack that sort
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of uh i think allowed us to stay more and so really in the end i think it would be better the president
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would be better served if he had people around him who uh were actually sort of more in line with
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his thinking and less opposed to to the i think the unique aspect that the president brings to foreign
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policy i'm i'm really concerned when uh congress really didn't pay any attention the senate didn't
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really pay any attention to uh the um bernie sanders mike lee bill to to to demand uh an end or
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uh or an authorization for this shadow war that we're running in in yemen it doesn't seem like
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congress has any intention of being held accountable for anything nor nor want to be you know he i don't
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often agree with bernie sanders but he made a great point he says you conservatives you care about the
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constitution you spout it all the time when it comes to economic issues but then when it comes
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to foreign policy you completely ignore the constitution he has a point other than a few of
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us mike lee and a few others uh on foreign policy very few people think that congress has to authorize
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war but our founding fathers were unanimous in this every one of the founding fathers wrote or spoke out
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and said that they did not want the power to rest in the hands of the president that was too
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important too much power and they vested that power in the constitution but they did that on purpose and
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virtually no one up here uh is still trying to adhere to the original meaning of the constitution
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as the founders intended i will tell you that i uh i mean i i want the president to be able to move if
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he needs to be able to move but 30 days goes by boy congress has has got to be able to say no we're not
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doing that anymore uh i was i i really thought that uh president trump should have even gone to congress
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for advice and consent on uh on syria we are we are dangerously close to uh war with putin and that
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doesn't work for anybody that's not good well think about it people say oh congress is so ineffectual
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and gridlocked they can't do anything but think about it when we were attacked at pearl harbor the president
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came the next morning and virtually unanimously congress voted on the spot to declare war on japan
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um after 9 11 when president george w bush came to congress virtually unanimous once again to go to
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war with the people who attacked us on 9 11 so i think actually our country can come together we're
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much stronger when we come together like that we're much stronger when we have a vote at the outset that
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we're going to war but all this other messy stuff you know in yemen they say oh we're not really at war
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because we're not dropping the bombs the saudis are dropping the bombs but we're refueling their
01:29:10.400
planes and the people on the receiving end of the bombs you know they they don't say oh this is
01:29:15.720
kinetic action we're not really being bombed they think uh we're at war with them it's the same the
01:29:21.380
same kind of thinking that has gotten us into so much trouble in the middle east by saying we're not
01:29:25.160
doing the torture it's egypt that's doing the torture yeah but here's the here's the really sad
01:29:30.380
thing almost everybody now including pompeo including president trump say there is no military
01:29:36.120
solution in afghanistan there is no military solution in syria and there is no military
01:29:41.220
solution in yemen and so my point to them yesterday and to a couple of the guys from the state department
01:29:45.940
yesterday as i asked how do you think that goes for the guy down at the recruiting station is saying
01:29:50.400
hey please sign up for the infantry we need you for a war now we're not planning on winning but what
01:29:56.200
we want to do is if we take one more village back from the taliban maybe they'll negotiate with us
01:30:00.720
and we'll get a negotiated settlement but we need you to take that last village sounds a lot like
01:30:05.380
vietnam you know take one more village give it up take it take it again give it up but we're really
01:30:10.480
not trying to defeat the enemy we are trying to get to a point of negotiation and i realize a lot of war
01:30:15.940
ends with negotiation but i think if we've already acknowledged that we need to be doing a little bit
01:30:20.320
more negotiating right now a little more diplomacy and a little bit less sending of our gis everywhere
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glenn beck we're total geeks we're having a constitutional war powers uh conversation off air
01:31:59.700
we'll get to it because it is it is it's not what you it's not what you think it is uh and we've we've
01:32:06.680
let the constitution just bleed all out to where it really doesn't have any meaning anymore well and
01:32:11.980
this is congress's fault because congress never steps up and takes responsibility here it's an
01:32:17.960
idea to protect and defend the constitution of the united states yeah i mean this is the same with
01:32:23.220
trade the constitution says congress should be dealing with trade the president should be setting
01:32:29.180
tariffs no that that's something congress is supposed to do but congress just says well we don't really
01:32:34.400
want to be held responsible for it so you do it and there's the same thing with war again like i think
01:32:39.940
the one this is the one loophole that i don't think the founders foresaw they didn't foresee people
01:32:47.320
gladly giving their power away yeah you know what i mean and ignoring these things yeah because that's
01:32:53.160
what they do they just sign well well we are exercising our right by giving that decision making
01:33:00.460
power to the president right we've decided we have it's where we've made the decision we don't want
01:33:05.380
to decide you don't have the right to do that the constitution lays out how this system works
01:33:10.880
you don't have the right to do that and and i i agree with that and then you look at the war powers act
01:33:17.260
because a lot of our war powers resolution where people typically go to when they say 60 to 90 days
01:33:22.480
what rand paul was talking about is true in that like really you're not supposed to do it at all
01:33:25.600
but what people will say you have 60 to 90 days to essentially react well that's true except for
01:33:31.600
the fact that it's very specific what what circumstances lead you to have that ability
01:33:37.680
which is a congressional declaration a congressional legislative power under necessary and proper
01:33:43.060
clause and then finally the one we've been always dealing with presidential executive power as
01:33:47.420
commander-in-chief but with a limitation what limitation can either be here's the three
01:33:52.860
circumstances that you can do this one a declaration of war we don't have that two specific statuatory
01:33:58.840
authorization now you could stretch that from 9-11 and say anything in the entire world can be
01:34:04.960
utilized this way and that's one of the ways one of the ways they're doing that yeah and three a
01:34:09.760
national emergency created by attack upon the united states its territories possessions or armed
01:34:15.560
forces also covered under 9-11 but again right like you can stretch but there's not an attack
01:34:21.220
here on like a syrian chemical attack on syrians does not is not an attack on the united states
01:34:29.400
and we keep viewing it through that lens because we think a chemical attack by syrians on syrians is
01:34:35.700
really bad which it is that does not give us the power there's not a really bad clause in the
01:34:41.440
constitution well throw this stuff out if you feel really angry about it that's not in there
01:34:45.240
and we continually put that in there which is a problem again i think i think if you went to
01:34:51.980
congress and you said hey look uh they just you know it's chemical weapons attack we need to do
01:34:56.040
something you're probably gonna get approval for that anyway they still don't bother with it we're
01:35:01.100
gonna go to why people who say that uh syria didn't have a reason to drop this chemical weapon
01:35:08.620
why i think they're wrong the evidence coming up in a second glenn back
01:35:15.500
you're listening to the glenn back program i love this southwest pilot that landed the plane yesterday
01:35:30.460
engine blows up somebody is unfortunately sucked through a window a passenger pulls her back in but
01:35:36.700
she's already dead and uh she's landing the plane and you know they don't know if they're gonna make it
01:35:42.360
and she just says uh uh can you just make sure that medical personnel is i mean you hear her just
01:35:48.260
speak do we have the audio yeah listen to this audio this is great start looking for the airport
01:35:52.960
it's off to your right and slightly behind you there and uh altitude is your discretion use caution for
01:35:57.820
the uh downtown area maintain uh advise you to maintain at about 2 200 for uh dmva okay could
01:36:04.400
you have the uh medical meters there on the runway as well we've got uh injured passengers
01:36:10.680
injured passengers okay and are you is your airplane physically on fire
01:36:17.300
holy crap i just like matter of fact like yeah it's another day in the office
01:36:22.700
yeah it's not on fire just parts of it are missing i remember too there was there was one airline i
01:36:27.020
remember which one it was that had you know you have the like in in plane like radio stations you
01:36:31.660
can kind of flip through there's like classical and one of them was the in cabin feed yeah where
01:36:36.940
you could hear the actual pilots talking can you imagine listening to her say yeah it's not on fire
01:36:42.960
but some of the planes missing uh no but i can't imagine i think i would be more freaked out by the
01:36:48.860
big hole in this i'm there in the cabin where i could see the hole yes and the passenger who's just
01:36:53.920
dragged back in but you don't know i mean you can't see all the damage that's been done to the plane
01:36:59.900
you don't know pretty incredible yeah pretty incredible she's she's remarkable and she said that
01:37:04.600
it's her her christian faith that has pulled her through all of this she's a remarkable woman one of
01:37:10.480
the first female air force pilots i had heard maybe the first maybe the first yeah so a really amazing
01:37:16.240
history and story so jason betrillo is with us and he is uh uh he's former military intel and you know
01:37:24.600
our geopolitical uh kind of watchdog and researcher and uh we were talking to ran paul before the break
01:37:33.000
uh about syria and he said this what i think is just a little ignorant when i hear it from from
01:37:41.960
people um uh that that's assad had no reason to drop these chemical weapons i think ran paul gave me
01:37:51.280
one reason himself where he said yeah he might have done the calculation that they would just probably
01:37:56.040
drop a few missiles and then we'd move on with our lives that's exactly what i think but there's more
01:38:00.980
and i was glad to hear that ran paul knew about the rebels i was incredibly surprised that he knew
01:38:08.440
about it because most people in the west have never even heard of this rebel group and that rebel group
01:38:13.040
uh for all the nerds out there is jaish al-islam and they're and one of a gazillion other rebel groups
01:38:19.120
uh within syria but what makes them very specific is they are right outside the old city in damascus
01:38:26.520
yes so what would be the equivalent uh old town um alexandria across the river from uh washington dc
01:38:34.100
perfect so imagine if there were rebels trying to do an insurrection or guerrilla movement against
01:38:38.800
our government that is how close they would be to the nation's capital and they were well dug in he
01:38:43.860
said oh they weren't liked in the neighborhood but they were they were well fortified were they not
01:38:48.220
i've seen that so the pictures are just now starting to come out i've never seen fortifications
01:38:52.580
underneath the city like this ever like it is amazing journalists are starting to post pictures
01:38:57.960
of themselves down there the the the tunnels are big enough that you could drive cars through that's
01:39:02.480
how big the tunnels are they're being described as an underground city underneath duma that that's how
01:39:07.580
significant it is these guys were not going anywhere it was going to take some people were saying six
01:39:11.880
months to a year just to push them out now think about that that is right outside assad's capital
01:39:17.080
now that that is you know their prime you know target right now was jaysh al-islam right there
01:39:23.220
now here's something here's a few other things this was not the first chemical attack on this group
01:39:27.520
the syrian regime has been doing this is the third chemical attack just this year just this year
01:39:33.240
and there could have been several more up until last april but just this year this is the third now
01:39:37.980
most people have not heard about that the reason being is because it just didn't get the international
01:39:41.460
press they didn't knock out as many um people is the distinction as well like they seem to be
01:39:46.580
drawing some bizarre distinction uh between the use of chlorine and something like sarin as if
01:39:53.120
you don't mind being killed by chlorine but you know being killed by sarin's a big deal
01:39:57.200
is that because the other the previous attacks were those chlorine attacks is that why they're not
01:40:01.460
rising to this bizarre level so i don't even think they've even i don't think they've actually
01:40:06.820
made a determination of sarin was used in this they've just kind of left that out there as it's
01:40:10.200
possible right another nerve agent exactly but the reason chlorine is is is interesting in this
01:40:15.840
debate is because chlorine is found in a lot of manufacturing factories you know you so you
01:40:22.200
could it is plausible that some rebels could have you know seized a you know factory or whatever and
01:40:28.960
gotten chlorine but the asad regime knows that as well now there's a lot of can i go a little into
01:40:34.800
the conspiracy theory a little bit as long as you clearly mark it when you come in and out
01:40:40.140
okay so entering now okay so the putin started talking about the kremlin started talking about
01:40:46.700
possible chemical attacks as early as i think april 4th now this attack happened on the on the 7th
01:40:52.700
they started warning people that hey we've got reports that someone might be doing a chemical
01:40:57.700
attack rebels might be staging a false flag that was on april 4th again a lot of people have not
01:41:02.520
heard about that the attack happened on the on the 7th and in smaller circles the russians were like
01:41:07.760
see we told you so now think about what happened before uh the kremlin started saying that the
01:41:14.560
nerve agent attack uh from the uh on the former double agent russian double agent who the criminals
01:41:20.580
are trying to say look this is all just a this is all just a ruse to try to get everybody to turn
01:41:25.140
against russia well who did russia finger they didn't finger rebels for the for this attack that
01:41:31.780
they said happened on the 7th who'd they finger the english the uk that's who it is they're trying to
01:41:37.460
make the distinction and the russian ambassador at the un actually said this at the security council
01:41:42.560
meeting that they thought that this was a big ruse by the british to tie russia and the assad regime
01:41:49.020
the uk ambassador that no the russian the russian ambassador let's play this audio it's it's i warn you
01:41:54.740
it's disturbing on so many levels do you have the russian ambassador sarah it's not certain by any
01:42:03.020
means that it was a chemical attack there are reports from western journalists who were in duma
01:42:09.580
yesterday reports that they could find uh no folks who would confirm that there'd been a chemical attack
01:42:16.780
they went actually to the hospital where it was where those videos were filmed they spoke to doctors
01:42:24.360
named doctors so this can be checked who said that there was no chemical attack what there was
01:42:31.560
was an ordinary bomb attack that had people streaming into the hospital with smoke inhalation problems
01:42:39.180
and what happened then was that the white helmets that's the jihadi uh medical auxiliaries uh started
01:42:47.860
shouting gas caused panic uh then they everybody went into uh gas mode they started with the hoses
01:42:56.180
and the inhalers uh meanwhile it was all being carefully videoed and put out by uh rich arab country
01:43:04.720
propagandists and there's this wow okay okay so i can in this era of of russian misinformation
01:43:13.640
in in everything they're trying to do we have to be hypersensitive to every time someone is parroting this
01:43:18.920
and we cannot continue to parrot at that that's why i do not like when i hear people in our own government
01:43:24.000
say something like well so i didn't have a reason to attack you know this is they didn't have a reason
01:43:28.880
that's exactly what the russian regime is saying now this thing he's talking about about the white helmets
01:43:33.660
that started in art on the rt network you know russian funded news network and sputnik which is also
01:43:41.080
russian funded that's where that began they're trying to make the white helmets for people that don't know
01:43:46.280
is a search and rescue group they don't they're not combat they're not anything they take dead bodies
01:43:52.300
and people that are hurt out of buildings they've actually been nominated for nobel peace prize back
01:43:56.800
in 2016 world governments give them money for them to continue to do their work but there's a big reason
01:44:02.700
why russia is trying to smear them just like they tried to smear the pope for crying out loud back in
01:44:07.140
world war ii they're trying to do the same thing to the white helmets the reason they're trying to do
01:44:11.100
that is because no one can get into these areas areas and verify war crimes and that's exactly what
01:44:16.900
the russian government and assad are complicit in war crimes they're trying to stop people from
01:44:21.340
being able to show what's going on even though two documentaries have actually come out and showed
01:44:25.460
what the some of the cool stuff that the white helmets are doing but this is all propaganda
01:44:28.980
straight from the kremlin and i cannot believe people in actual governments are just spouting
01:44:33.440
this off they're just repeating it over and over again it's insane i mean that's one one viewpoint
01:44:38.060
i mean it's one viewpoint uh there are others uh apparently jason has not heard the report from oan
01:44:44.860
uh well this is pretty stunning this is pretty stunning and i'd like to hear you answer for
01:44:49.720
this yeah listen we want to announce that uh one american news has an exclusive discovery we went to
01:44:57.800
uh duma today we got exclusive access uh and we were brought into the town of duma where the alleged
01:45:04.780
chemical attack happened uh we were brought in uh with a government escort and uh shown the areas where
01:45:11.400
uh the chemical attack uh allegedly happened not one of the people that i spoke to in that
01:45:16.720
neighborhood said that they had seen anything or heard anything about a chemical attack on that day
01:45:22.560
uh they said that they were going about their normal business uh everything was pretty much
01:45:28.000
business as usual uh in the neighborhood that day and they didn't see or hear anything out of the
01:45:32.680
ordinary well there you have it amazing so the sad government uh reached out to a uh a reporter and said
01:45:40.720
we'll bring you in under escort and we'll take you to the site and we'll introduce you to people who
01:45:46.640
can tell you the truth shame on you one american news i cannot believe this this is what this is is
01:45:52.500
this is selling your soul for access and it happens in everywhere in the world every combat zone in the
01:45:58.360
world every journalist has offered something like this yeah yeah sure we'll take you in this is by the
01:46:03.520
government the government guys say yeah under military escort we'll show you the truth this is the
01:46:07.200
truth and they're just buying it hook line and sinker now i get it they're probably scared because
01:46:11.580
they don't want to say anything else but probably because they might be threatened actually physically
01:46:16.280
by the assad regime but also because they just don't want to lose the access they just don't want
01:46:20.220
to lose it they want to be one of the people that have the exclusive exclusive but this is not
01:46:23.880
journalism not at all they're just they're it's a propaganda that's all it is they're they're
01:46:28.660
contributing to the spread of propaganda and it's just absolutely ridiculous and this propaganda
01:46:32.840
the end goal if people don't understand the end goal and we laid this out on a chalkboard um the
01:46:39.400
other day i think it was on monday right after the attacks what is it that nobody is really talking
01:46:45.400
about what what is the point of what's happening over there and it is is israel so iran has been
01:46:52.640
launching really this plan since i would say like mid to late 80s uh with the establishment hezbollah and
01:46:58.460
basically taking over lebanon that was the first step in getting on israel's border the next step
01:47:04.280
right after the iraq invasion was to go in basically seize control the iraqi government
01:47:08.740
which that's basically what's happened right now and then move into syria that's what they're doing
01:47:12.740
the entire reason is to encircle israel they want to get that's their language not not ours exactly
01:47:18.600
their language yeah they want to encirclement and what they get after that is basically the end of
01:47:22.620
the world and that's not hyperbole they're actually looking for the end of the world because that's
01:47:26.300
when their messiah comes this and again this is what they're preaching that's that that's their
01:47:30.540
language and if you think that that russia is a neutral actor in this they are completely not
01:47:36.780
neutral actors so right after the chemical weapon attack happened who did israel attack they attack
01:47:41.600
the asad regime or they attack the iranians they attack the iranians they did a missile strike almost
01:47:47.380
within hours of an iranian base it was the t4 base and what they actually attacked and we just found
01:47:53.700
this out i think last night or this morning from the wall street journal was a tor missile battery
01:47:59.060
tor missile battery that was supplied to them given to them supplied to them by the russians the tor if
01:48:05.800
i'm not mistaken is one of the most aggressive air defense systems out there is it not it's it's a
01:48:14.480
good air defense system it's not quite the s400 but it's a it's a medium medium range surfaced air
01:48:19.980
missile but um but it was given to them by the russians so the russians are complicit in helping
01:48:25.380
the iranians do what they know what they're trying to do they're trying to get down there and they're
01:48:28.540
trying to get to israel but that is not unusual um i told you a story the other day and you looked
01:48:33.120
it up and you you were like and i think i even said i don't even remember the source on this so you
01:48:38.720
better look it up and we found it in the washington post from 1982 to what were the russians doing in
01:48:46.200
1982 they had an entire invasion force basically underneath the desert waiting there for whenever
01:48:52.480
they wanted to use it to roll right into tel aviv in lebanon in lebanon and amazing we found it in 1982
01:48:58.920
it was there were the tanks and the ammunition and the absolutely everything you would need for a full
01:49:05.540
invasion force and the russians in the cover of night had buried this entire invasion force
01:49:12.640
this is not something new to the russians something interesting also on i was jotting
01:49:19.220
down notes when i was listening to your interview with the senator and uh he mentioned that he thought
01:49:23.220
that there was no evidence but there is evidence that we've come out and said intelligence has
01:49:27.040
evidence they said there's a blood sample and a urine sample so they do know uh what the actual
01:49:31.140
agent was that was used and uh senator paul also said that uh they were supposed to get actual
01:49:35.740
the opcw which is the watchdog for the un that verifies chemical weapons use was supposed to verify
01:49:41.520
today uh you know and actually get samples well the russians and the assad regime have denied them
01:49:48.020
access they will not let them into duma to actually take samples now why would they do that unless they
01:49:52.720
have something to hide right there's no reason if they're guilty it behooves them to let them in
01:49:56.920
but they're keeping them out so today the un security team the un their security team for for the
01:50:02.220
opcw went in to check the area now it's been safe for one american news to go in there and then
01:50:07.580
broadcast right from you know duma square and say everything was fine and peace in our time
01:50:12.020
but for some reason the un security team got fired upon the un security team got fired upon so now the
01:50:17.740
opcw still cannot get into duma they're not going in there anytime soon now you gotta ask yourself why
01:50:22.800
is that that the russians and assad are so you know um um well because because they know that the
01:50:30.240
un is going to plant evidence i mean that is what they will say jason thank you so much thanks uh keep
01:50:37.040
your keep your eye on uh on what's happening over there and and uh keep us abreast will you okay
01:50:43.940
all right so i don't know about you but man i come home from uh from work and playing with the kids and
01:50:52.300
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glenn beck you know how everybody says this is the this is the leakiest administration of all time
01:51:50.420
you know what's really truly remarkable is mike pompeo went over to north korea and met with kim
01:51:57.300
jong-un last week and nobody knows about it until today incredible that is incredible
01:52:04.420
i mean it really is you know it shows that the people inside the administration that are leaking
01:52:10.580
actually think this one's important and are holding it back which is positive this could be
01:52:14.500
a huge accomplishment if it works it could be a huge accomplishment glenn beck mercury