The Glenn Beck Program - 'Look Around, and Count Your Blessings' - 10⧸15⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.120 Well, this weekend, once again, Portland became the stage for radicalism and violence, insanity,

00:00:15.460 pretending to be heroic, an extreme real world outbreak of the tribal warfare that has shaken

00:00:22.760 our culture and our country as a whole.

00:00:25.260 And once again, we're talking about Antifa.

00:00:28.020 Yes, there were right-leaning protesters there, but as usual, they were the ones under attack.

00:00:34.800 Only Antifa members realized how utterly postmodern they are.

00:00:39.480 I mean, let's start with the fact that they showed up to an event called the Law and Order March

00:00:45.300 with hard knuckle gloves, knives and firearms.

00:00:50.800 The mayhem has become so common now, it's really almost redundant to give anybody an

00:00:57.780 Oregon the details.

00:01:00.200 More important, what matters here is that the behavior is not just continuing, but it is

00:01:05.920 worsening now.

00:01:11.500 What does this mayor of Portland think he's doing?

00:01:15.420 I mean, it seems an awful lot like the Fuhrer's use of brown shirts. 0.98

00:01:25.880 I don't like to, you know, talk about problems without having a solution or at least a hint

00:01:31.380 of reassurance that things are going to get better.

00:01:34.700 But this hour, I want to I want to spend time there.

00:01:37.380 And I want to start with this.

00:01:38.840 The Atlantic published an article last week titled Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture.

00:01:44.140 And here are the few standouts.

00:01:45.960 Eight percent of Americans are progressive activists and their views are even less typical.

00:01:53.880 Eight percent.

00:01:56.200 By contrast, two thirds of Americans who don't belong to either extreme constitute at what's

00:02:02.780 called now the exhausted majority.

00:02:05.180 I'm a member of that.

00:02:07.180 How about you?

00:02:08.840 Their members share a sense of fatigue with our polarized national conversation, a willingness

00:02:13.720 to be flexible in their political viewpoints and a lack of voice in the national conversation.

00:02:19.800 Most members of the exhausted majority and then some dislike political correctness.

00:02:24.720 Among the general population, a full 80 percent believe that political correctness is a problem

00:02:31.280 in our country.

00:02:32.220 Even young people are uncomfortable with it, including 74 percent of the ages 24 to 29 and

00:02:40.380 79 percent under the age of 24.

00:02:45.220 On this particular issue, the woke are in clear minorities across all ages.

00:02:52.360 Now, here's the clencher.

00:02:53.660 This is the thing that that most of Americans have realized a long time ago, but we have

00:03:01.860 been too petrified to express, quote, compared with the rest of the nationally representative

00:03:08.420 polling sample, progressive activists are much more likely to be rich, highly educated and

00:03:15.340 white.

00:03:15.780 There are nearly twice they are nearly twice as likely as the average to make more than

00:03:21.420 one hundred thousand dollars a year.

00:03:23.620 They are nearly three times as likely to have a postgraduate degree.

00:03:27.720 And while 12 percent of the overall sample in the study is African-American, only three

00:03:33.160 percent of progressive activists are with the exception of a small tribe of devoted conservatives.

00:03:40.320 Progressive activists are the most racially homogeneous group in the country.

00:03:46.780 Antifa is the perfect representation of this population.

00:03:51.800 They, more than any other group or individual, represent the heinous, obnoxious intentions of

00:03:59.540 the new left.

00:04:00.460 These are not Democrats.

00:04:01.440 They are the left.

00:04:05.880 As I've said before, the social justice welfare that is going on right now is inherently postmodern.

00:04:16.080 Their war is against you and anyone who stands up for our way of life, not just the Constitution,

00:04:25.500 but now the Senate, the House, the President, anything that is Western.

00:04:33.220 I can assume that if you're listening to me now, you're already going to vote in the next few weeks

00:04:37.140 during the midterms, but this is a big one.

00:04:40.320 The other thing you can do is stay informed.

00:04:43.600 And this hour, I want to remind you that you're not alone.

00:04:48.300 I started writing an essay last night, and I posted it up on Facebook, but I want to spend some time

00:05:08.720 going over it with you.

00:05:10.600 You know the saying, may you live in interesting times?

00:05:13.520 They always say, oh, that's a Chinese curse.

00:05:15.520 It's really not.

00:05:16.540 No, it's not.

00:05:17.020 May you live in interesting times is not a Chinese. 1.00

00:05:20.620 In fact, the first place that we can really find it being said is in the Yorkshire Post.

00:05:27.880 That's in England in 1936.

00:05:31.020 A guy stood up in Parliament.

00:05:32.620 His name was Sir Austin Chamberlain, and he was he was meeting with unionists, and he spoke

00:05:41.120 of the grave injury to collective security by Germany's violation of the treaties.

00:05:46.200 So he said, look, not so long ago, I spent some years of service in China, and there was this old Chinese fellow

00:05:56.940 who told me of a curse.

00:05:58.720 May you live in interesting times.

00:06:00.500 And there is no doubt that this curse has fallen upon us.

00:06:04.240 So it's not Chinese. 0.85

00:06:05.600 It's this it's this guy.

00:06:06.800 It's the only one is the only place we can really find this.

00:06:10.780 But I've always liked that.

00:06:12.340 Because I don't think it's a curse.

00:06:14.940 It's it's a it's just a saying.

00:06:18.820 And you decide if it's a blessing or a curse.

00:06:22.020 I personally think it's a blessing.

00:06:24.220 My dad taught me when I was really young.

00:06:29.920 That no matter what happens to you.

00:06:32.840 There is no bad.

00:06:35.280 Now, he taught me this when I was really young, but it took it took me hitting rock bottom, alcoholism, divorce, everything else.

00:06:42.660 My life completely falling apart before I really learned that it took a dark chapter in my life that that taught me there is nothing that life can hand you that is in itself bad.

00:06:57.100 It just depends on what you do with it.

00:06:59.260 Is this going to change you in destructive ways?

00:07:06.340 Is it going to make you angry?

00:07:08.880 Are you going to be filled with bitterness and despair?

00:07:11.680 Are you going to be looking for vengeance?

00:07:15.200 Blame?

00:07:18.160 Or will you allow whatever calamity has come your way to strengthen you?

00:07:25.380 Through enlightenment, through correction.

00:07:29.940 New understandings, humility.

00:07:33.560 It's up to you.

00:07:35.500 So living in interesting times, I think that's a blessing.

00:07:41.820 And we're going to learn this one way or another.

00:07:44.300 We can either learn this the easy way, like with my dad telling me, or we're going to learn it the hard way, like I actually had to take at the end and learn through just total collapse.

00:07:55.780 But one way or another, humility will reign again.

00:07:59.260 Because we have an unbelievable lack of humility in D.C., in Hollywood.

00:08:05.380 I have a story today to tell you about Michael Buble, who's now quitting the music industry.

00:08:11.940 He says he's tired of the celebrity nonsense.

00:08:17.320 Everybody on the left and the right, we all have an ego problem.

00:08:23.140 We're utterly convinced that our side is absolutely right.

00:08:27.400 And if you violate that, if you violate one part of that, you're a traitor. 0.82

00:08:33.760 You're a traitor to the race, the party, the cause, whatever.

00:08:38.280 They are wrong and we remain right. 0.98

00:08:40.620 Now, there are real, true right and wrongs.

00:08:44.540 There is truth.

00:08:48.000 But I don't think any of us are really looking for it.

00:08:50.920 At least a large section isn't looking for it.

00:08:54.180 We are indeed living in interesting times.

00:08:56.920 But is our crisis, is our problem a them problem? 0.98

00:09:05.300 Because that's what the world is trying to sell us.

00:09:09.060 I personally think it's an us problem.

00:09:12.240 All of us, both sides, all of us.

00:09:15.020 And maybe we don't see it because we're so busy staging and filtering and enhancing the colors on our Facebook or Instagram pictures that we can really no longer recognize what is true, even about our own lives.

00:09:30.520 Because everything that we print and post, most of it is a lie.

00:09:34.140 One way or another, subtle or bold, it's a lie.

00:09:38.220 And why is that?

00:09:41.740 Because we've been marketed to ever since we were born.

00:09:45.020 All of us.

00:09:46.820 If you were born after 1950, you were marketed to your whole life.

00:09:52.100 Especially now, it's just getting worse and worse and worse and worse.

00:09:55.200 You are not complete unless you wear, consume, you own, you vacation at, or you don't buy product A or B.

00:10:04.840 You're not complete.

00:10:07.160 You're not good enough.

00:10:10.180 You're not complete.

00:10:11.360 You have to have this product.

00:10:12.880 But now we're being told that you can't even be part of the great new society unless we believe and champion product, politician, or party A, B, or C.

00:10:25.000 Opinions now are products as well that you must embrace and wear.

00:10:30.700 Somebody else's, not yours. 0.73

00:10:32.080 And now we're in the final stages where we ourselves are products.

00:10:38.760 Companies like Google and Facebook and Amazon and YouTube.

00:10:42.640 We're not a customer.

00:10:45.560 We're now the commodity.

00:10:47.340 We're the thing they're selling.

00:10:48.740 Oh, you want this group of people that want to buy these things?

00:10:54.120 Here they are.

00:10:57.840 If you can't fill in the line, I am blank.

00:11:03.480 If you can't fill that in with an actual word and be it complete, happy, satisfied, excited, or I am worthless.

00:11:17.780 If you don't fill it in yourself, somebody else will.

00:11:25.180 And marketers are trying to fill that in for you.

00:11:28.600 You buy this product and you can say, I am cool.

00:11:32.380 Or I am in style.

00:11:34.320 I am rich.

00:11:36.100 I am smart.

00:11:37.400 You buy Democrat and you can say, I am compassionate.

00:11:41.560 You buy the Democratic label.

00:11:43.340 I am smarter than others.

00:11:44.560 I am science-minded, and it doesn't even matter if you really are.

00:11:48.240 It doesn't matter if you've ever given a dime or given any time to anything.

00:11:53.440 Just by buying this label, you are compassionate.

00:11:57.360 It's the label that everybody needs.

00:12:00.080 Now, if you want to buy Republican, well, then you get to be patriotic.

00:12:05.540 I am patriotic.

00:12:06.480 I support our troops.

00:12:07.860 I support family values.

00:12:09.460 It doesn't matter if you're whoring it every night. 0.96

00:12:13.160 If you're by the Republican label, you can say that.

00:12:16.660 Buy the Christian label, and you can do whatever you want.

00:12:20.260 You just use religion to excuse you or others in their behavior.

00:12:25.000 Buy the label progressive.

00:12:27.260 Oh, my gosh.

00:12:28.540 I am science-minded, even though you deny basic biology.

00:12:34.820 Labels like courage.

00:12:38.100 He has courage.

00:12:39.320 That has a price tag now, but don't buy now, because the price of courage is going lower and lower for a while.

00:12:49.740 For a while, this was a time-revered label.

00:12:53.820 You actually had to earn this, but now it can be yours simply by saying things out loud in a room full of people who all agree with you

00:13:02.300 and will cheer and will cheer and clap when you finally say what they're thinking.

00:13:06.760 That's courage.

00:13:08.660 Oh, they have such courage.

00:13:12.700 Labels and words are experiencing a fire sale, and it seems everything must go now.

00:13:21.800 But once that fire sale is over, something else happens, and what comes next forces people to earn their labels,

00:13:39.500 and that's the world we're about to enter.

00:13:42.880 And I actually think it's a blessing, not a curse.

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00:15:31.660 The decision in front of us, where do we go from here?

00:15:37.420 It's actually really kind of an exciting time because labels are worthless.

00:15:48.660 Thomas Paine wrote,

00:15:49.960 Heaven knows the proper price to attach to something so celestial as freedom.

00:15:53.960 It's true.

00:15:55.880 Every single generation, I think, except for the last, the boomers, had to earn and renew their freedom.

00:16:04.420 They didn't buy or sell the label, the greatest generation. 1.00

00:16:09.700 That generation didn't have it.

00:16:12.060 It wasn't them who came up with that title.

00:16:14.480 It was actually the boomers, their children. 0.97

00:16:17.280 At the time, there weren't labels like we have now for every subset of every generation.

00:16:25.200 People saw themselves as people and Americans. 0.77

00:16:28.780 They saw a crisis not as anybody's fault, but rather, oh, crap, their turn to stand and do the right thing.

00:16:37.220 It's what they did with their crisis that made others, years later, bestow upon them the title, the greatest generation.

00:16:50.400 Well, I don't know if you noticed this, but we're living in a time of great crisis and upheaval.

00:16:55.900 And I don't think it's going to, in the end, be much different or of smaller scale than the great struggles of the past.

00:17:01.160 And in that struggle, all of the labels that we think we have now will fall away.

00:17:07.760 All of those that have been bought will become worthless.

00:17:11.880 And every new label for each of us will be purchased with blood, sweat, tears, or actual courage.

00:17:20.120 And what we face in the end is not going to be smaller than what many of our grandparents or great-grandparents faced in the world wars.

00:17:28.180 It's not going to be any less frightening than the global economic unrest of the 1930s, but it's not going to be greater either.

00:17:35.180 It's just going to be ours.

00:17:38.780 And just like the generations gone by, it'll be our choice whether or not we survive.

00:17:44.900 I think this is a blessing.

00:17:48.360 The boomers never got to see who they really were. 0.98

00:17:51.400 The boomers feasted off the crisis of their parents. 0.80

00:17:55.380 They never really had to choose for themselves, like the greatest generation did, life or death, freedom or slavery. 0.77

00:18:02.480 They never had to push themselves as a group beyond what humans thought was even possible to achieve something as valuable or as celestial as freedom.

00:18:14.800 The crisis that we're now beginning to see is a blessing.

00:18:18.600 It's a blessing our parents never received.

00:18:20.980 Each of us is going to have to choose.

00:18:25.960 We're going to have to pick between black and white, slavery or freedom, good or evil, life and death. 0.66

00:18:31.360 The choices are going to be that clear.

00:18:35.580 We will all know in the years to come who we really are.

00:18:40.160 If we choose carefully who we really are.

00:18:45.620 Otherwise, we will be painfully aware of who we simply allowed ourselves to become.

00:18:55.540 We can become, through this struggle, exactly who we were born to be.

00:19:00.260 Our best and highest self.

00:19:02.820 If each of us were honest and we began to see this struggle in the proper light, we'd admit that it's the softness of our foundations that have caused all these troubles.

00:19:16.020 It's our wanting an easier life, not making the hard choices, not having to say no, not having to say yes.

00:19:23.680 But Barack Obama nor Donald Trump are the problem or the solution.

00:19:32.000 They're a symptom.

00:19:34.900 Look around you.

00:19:37.180 No matter who you voted for, I think all of us will admit now at this point that our country and perhaps the entire world is very, very sick.

00:19:49.640 So what's the diagnosis?

00:19:51.360 What has the doctor been telling us and what is the truth when we come back?

00:20:03.340 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:05.000 There's some hard choices for us to make as a nation that are right around the corner.

00:20:09.020 In fact, if you're in Portland, they're there.

00:20:11.200 They're at your feet right now.

00:20:12.640 Who are you, Portland?

00:20:14.160 What is it that you really believe?

00:20:16.620 Are you going to sit and let people destroy?

00:20:22.020 Destroy the great city that you have?

00:20:27.720 If all of us are honest and we really look at our situation, we all know, we all see the same symptoms.

00:20:36.280 We all know that we as a nation are sick.

00:20:39.460 We're really, really sick.

00:20:41.000 And we have.

00:20:44.540 We have each of us have doctors.

00:20:47.540 And they're each prescribing the opposite medicine.

00:20:50.000 And each of us, as patients, are all so desperate to cure what is killing us, killing our society, that we will follow these doctors' directions because they know better.

00:21:04.140 They know better.

00:21:04.700 They know more than we do.

00:21:06.340 They've got the answer.

00:21:07.540 And we become more and more vested in their cure.

00:21:10.560 As our friends and family say, that's not the cure.

00:21:13.420 Because we're taking this medicine and we believe, we just become more vested in our doctor.

00:21:21.520 Our doctor is right.

00:21:22.440 Yours is wrong.

00:21:23.240 Now, at the same time, the doctor's not going to get more humble because the doctor will know he or she has everything to lose if his or her patients begin to seek another opinion, another diagnosis, another remedy.

00:21:36.740 It's in their best interest to keep patients busy looking at the other side so they're not questioning what he's doing.

00:21:48.460 And while we're all fighting over the cure, none of us even have stopped to ask if the diagnosis is even correct.

00:21:54.920 We're just too busy fighting what our doctor said.

00:22:00.540 Now, I don't know about you, but I know you know we're sick.

00:22:03.940 I know you know this society is sick.

00:22:07.700 We are sick and we are in pain.

00:22:10.080 And when I am sick or in pain, I'm usually at my worst interpersonally.

00:22:14.360 I usually am not good at making friends at that point.

00:22:17.920 I don't think you are either.

00:22:19.360 We snap at each other.

00:22:20.940 We act as our lesser selves.

00:22:24.440 Because when I'm sick, I'm, I hurt.

00:22:29.440 And I am full of despair or I'm fearful.

00:22:33.940 Or I just don't have the patience.

00:22:36.740 And every time I'm really sick or in real pain, it usually is followed by a time where I have to begin conversations with, I'm really so sorry.

00:22:44.700 I was just in really bad pain or I was really sick.

00:22:47.940 I was having a really bad day.

00:22:50.380 And I know I'm not alone.

00:22:51.760 And judging by our society today, we're having a really very bad, most difficult day every day, it seems.

00:23:02.100 And it gets worse every day.

00:23:03.580 I want those doctors to know.

00:23:11.540 I want those, I want those to know that actually do just want to watch the world burn.

00:23:20.340 I want you to know that it's true.

00:23:23.380 We know there are dangers and difficulties, crisis, that lie ahead of us.

00:23:30.800 But don't assume that we're just going to lie down and watch our country burn down.

00:23:38.940 It's not.

00:23:39.420 In fact, many, if not most of us who voted for Democrats and those who voted for Republicans have a ton in common.

00:23:51.060 And a ton in common with those who voted for neither.

00:23:54.600 While the parties and the politicians try to convince us otherwise, and many of us may have believed for a while or even engaged in this warfare,

00:24:02.760 it's becoming more and more clear to more and more Americans that our neighbors are not the enemy, no matter who they voted for.

00:24:14.320 And if you're not there yet, or your neighbor is not there yet, ask them to ponder this.

00:24:24.580 Who in your family came here?

00:24:27.540 I don't care if it was three months ago or three centuries ago.

00:24:30.720 Why did they come here?

00:24:33.340 They came here to make a better life.

00:24:36.980 From a country that would not allow them to follow their dream for one reason or another.

00:24:42.160 From a country that didn't value hard work.

00:24:46.400 To a country that did value hard work and allowed you to keep what you built so you could live better than you did before.

00:24:54.740 Or you could have a better life than your parents or your grandparents.

00:24:57.960 You could afford a better life for your children so they could achieve even more than you did.

00:25:05.920 That opportunity is not coming because we have just a blessed land.

00:25:10.200 Because we have all kinds of climate and, you know, great plains and mountains and shoreline.

00:25:17.700 It's not that. 0.99

00:25:18.280 It doesn't even come from the people because, quite frankly, sometimes people suck. 0.97

00:25:25.240 It came from our mission statement. 0.65

00:25:29.300 It came from the American thesis that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.

00:25:36.520 Among them, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:25:38.880 And while that mission statement was and always will be aspirational, as it's never been fully achieved.

00:25:49.340 It has done great good.

00:25:51.700 Even in its worst interpretation, it has done great good.

00:25:58.340 It's shaped and given the best chance to succeed when it's protected by the guardrails of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

00:26:11.440 People came here because of our laws, which come from the American thesis.

00:26:17.680 That's what created the modern world.

00:26:20.040 It is indeed why people still die in the middle of the night on the desert, just trying to get to this side of the border.

00:26:35.800 Can I ask you an honest question?

00:26:40.680 Is it really that much of a stretch to believe that you and I are not alone in our doubt of our doctors?

00:26:50.040 Is it really that hard to believe that our neighbor, who knows how sick we all are, really wants everyone who disagrees with their doctor to die?

00:27:07.980 Is it possible that our neighbors have seen the flaws in their practitioner as we have in ours, but we haven't talked about that?

00:27:20.040 Is it really that much of a stretch to think that if we stop spending all of our time looking at what's wrong with America, or what's wrong with them,

00:27:32.560 we might be able to see and search for the things that are right with America, and good about our neighbors?

00:27:40.520 Perhaps we're not as sick as all the doctors tell us are.

00:27:51.520 Perhaps our doctors, our politicians, and our parties are more akin to bad, crooked chiropractors that you've gone to and have done more damage to your spine than good,

00:28:03.020 and will continue to bilk us out of every single dime week after week until we finally stand up and say,

00:28:08.820 you know what, no, or we're broke.

00:28:11.300 And I understand why we haven't wanted to listen, because most likely our friends have all said, don't go down that road.

00:28:19.120 Our family might have said, don't, don't, don't go to him, and then you really believed, and you fought,

00:28:23.940 and now you're sitting here and you realize, geez, they're right, and I don't want to be wrong.

00:28:28.020 I don't want to tell them that they were right.

00:28:30.340 Then again, perhaps, we are beyond help, and we only have months to live.

00:28:39.860 But if it is that way, I don't know about you, but if we're going down,

00:28:45.620 I want to go down with my friends and my family around me, and all of them, all of them,

00:28:52.920 even those who told me not to listen to my doctor, or the one I angrily chased away because I just knew they were wrong.

00:28:59.020 I want all of them by my bedside.

00:29:05.040 I think we should spend some time, especially when we look at what's happening in Portland,

00:29:10.180 and realize it's really easy to jump on the bandwagon and light fires.

00:29:16.720 It's really hard to put fires out.

00:29:21.380 It's easy to lose friends and family and chase them away.

00:29:25.680 It's a lot harder to bring them back.

00:29:35.140 Today, there are four stories in the news that talk about our founding documents

00:29:39.200 and our structure of our country, our Constitution, say they all failed.

00:29:43.520 Well, no, not really.

00:29:46.360 No, they were just forgotten.

00:29:47.900 Our founding documents really are only an idea.

00:29:50.740 That's it.

00:29:51.100 I think a really good idea that says, you know, we should all be able to choose who we want to be,

00:29:56.800 you know, build our own life, chart our own course,

00:29:59.820 and be left alone if we want to be left alone,

00:30:02.880 or be right on top of each other if we want to.

00:30:05.820 But whatever we choose, we can live our life with dignity and security.

00:30:10.940 That's a pretty damn good idea.

00:30:12.840 But that idea hasn't failed.

00:30:19.720 It's just that nobody really remembers it or believes in it anymore.

00:30:25.500 I still do.

00:30:28.740 And I think you do.

00:30:30.720 And I will bet you that your neighbor does as well.

00:30:34.400 I'm not a doctor.

00:30:39.000 Well, actually, I am.

00:30:40.360 I'm a doctor of humanities, which means I can treat anything in the human body.

00:30:44.720 So listen to me here.

00:30:45.620 I'm a doctor.

00:30:47.880 I think our illness is all in our heads.

00:30:50.100 I think we've been convinced by those who suffer from some sort of societal Munchausen by proxy 1.00

00:31:00.040 that we're fatally ill and will only survive because of them.

00:31:04.760 And I have to tell you, that's a lie. 0.74

00:31:08.660 They need us to be sick.

00:31:11.320 And I don't know about you, but I've had enough time in bed.

00:31:15.320 We're not as sick as they tell us.

00:31:17.020 They've convinced, they've filled in the line for us because we never had to fight for it.

00:31:25.240 We never had to fight for what that blank is.

00:31:28.720 As a country, we say, I am what?

00:31:32.080 Worthless?

00:31:33.160 Racist?

00:31:34.060 Over?

00:31:34.960 No.

00:31:37.360 We as a country,

00:31:38.700 we are a powerful force of good.

00:31:43.340 We are people who make mistakes, but learn from them.

00:31:51.060 We as a people are always looking at a better tomorrow, not a dusty, broken past.

00:32:01.380 We came here for a reason, and one of the reasons is we wanted to leave the past in the past.

00:32:07.360 We wanted to chart a new course.

00:32:09.480 If we choose to see things the way they are and couple that with who we always have strived to be,

00:32:20.140 our best selves, better, not better than the neighbor, just better than you were yesterday.

00:32:28.960 Can you just be slightly better than you were yesterday?

00:32:32.740 Not perfect, not like him, not like her.

00:32:34.980 Stop comparing yourself.

00:32:36.360 Can we be better than we were yesterday?

00:32:43.200 If we can do that and see each other in the best light, put our past in the past,

00:32:52.480 and our strife and our coming crisis in the right light, down the road, down the road,

00:32:59.400 after we've done all of this hard work,

00:33:02.780 some other generation that will come along will look back and name and give a label to us.

00:33:11.180 I believe that label is going to be good.

00:33:13.620 I believe that label could be great.

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00:33:19.440 It will not be the one we choose.

00:33:21.780 It will be the label we have earned.

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00:36:28.900 Okay, coming up next hour, we have we have something really, I think, wildly entertaining and a wee bit satisfying.

00:36:41.460 A guy who decided, you know what?

00:36:44.860 I'm going to take on the the left and all of this politically correct nonsense.

00:36:52.040 And one.

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00:36:57.840 Glenn Beck.

00:36:59.700 It's Monday, October 15th.

00:37:02.500 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:37:05.520 Academic Grievance Studies and the Corruption of Scholarship.

00:37:10.460 Part One Introduction.

00:37:12.200 Something has gone wrong in the university, especially in certain fields within the humanities.

00:37:16.640 Scholarship based less upon finding truth and more upon attending to social grievances has become firmly established, if not fully dominant within these fields.

00:37:28.200 And there are scholars increasingly that bully students, administrators and other departments into adhering to their worldview.

00:37:35.940 So, Dr. James Lindsay, along with a couple of other friends, decided, you know, let's find out what this is all about and let's see what the lines are.

00:37:47.180 And they learned an awful lot.

00:37:49.460 They learned something quite valuable that you just can't get away with anything.

00:37:54.620 You have to fall into a set pattern, really.

00:38:00.580 Dr. James Lindsay is joining us now.

00:38:03.580 He is a thinker.

00:38:04.720 He's not a philosopher, but he is a thinker, which I like.

00:38:06.920 A doctorate in math, background in physics.

00:38:11.140 James, how are you, sir?

00:38:13.120 I'm good, Glenn.

00:38:13.880 How are you?

00:38:14.560 I'm good.

00:38:15.380 So tell us what you were tell us what you were trying to do.

00:38:18.640 What were you trying to prove?

00:38:19.960 Well, we were looking into these fields to find out whether or not their scholarship has gotten so kind of ideologically biased that if we put forth really absurd arguments, that they might be willing to publish those so long as they fell in line with the political views that they seem to be forwarding in place of scholarship.

00:38:46.920 So at first, you didn't really understand the political view part, right?

00:38:53.220 Because the first few studies that you submitted, you got back.

00:39:00.020 They were rejected.

00:39:02.600 Yeah.

00:39:03.180 Well, it's not quite that, actually.

00:39:05.120 I think we understood the political view, but we didn't understand the need for scholarship.

00:39:09.380 We started this project out, and as you said, we got the first several papers back rejected.

00:39:14.940 We started in August by Thanksgiving.

00:39:17.520 It was literally Thanksgiving on the day of.

00:39:20.520 We really realized we were in trouble.

00:39:23.020 We weren't getting anywhere with trying to hoax them.

00:39:25.460 But the problem wasn't that we didn't understand the politics so much, although there's still a lot to learn there, and there was for us, too.

00:39:31.640 It's very complicated.

00:39:33.220 They call it a matrix of domination that you have to understand.

00:39:36.160 But it was more that we actually were not trying to work their scholarship in.

00:39:41.620 So there are two things that are needed to get these papers in.

00:39:45.040 One is that you actually have to understand what they call scholarship.

00:39:47.820 You have to do it according to their rules.

00:39:50.220 You have to understand the concepts you're working with and present them knowledgeably.

00:39:55.160 And then you also have to navigate this kind of matrix of offense-based rules that stand in place of the academic rigor you would expect in a more serious field.

00:40:09.520 One of the things I thought was really interesting, and I apologize for, I think, misunderstanding this initially, because the coverage gave me the impression that what you were outing here was these sort of pay-for-play journals where you could get anything published as long as you pay and they'll print anything.

00:40:28.040 But this is, I think, A, much, much, much more thorough process, and B, much scarier, because these were not these crappy internet things that you could pay $100 to get your nonsense published.

00:40:42.600 These were top-end journals.

00:40:44.600 Can you kind of go through how you made the decision to go that direction?

00:40:49.560 Yeah.

00:40:50.040 Actually, you know, a little over a year ago, about a year and a half ago, I heard you on your program reading out from the paper I wrote previously with Peter Boghossian, The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct.

00:41:01.940 And that ended up going to one of these pay-to-publish open-access journals that has apparently fairly low or very low review standards.

00:41:13.840 And so it didn't prove what we wanted to prove or didn't even really offer good evidence for what we're looking at.

00:41:19.780 But it was fun.

00:41:20.660 So we learned our lesson.

00:41:21.360 It was fun.

00:41:22.300 It was fun.

00:41:22.720 It was definitely fun.

00:41:23.920 It was definitely fun.

00:41:25.340 Right. 0.99

00:41:26.420 Yeah, penises don't exist, but they cause all of our problems anyway. 0.99

00:41:29.540 Right. 0.98

00:41:30.260 Basic theme of that.

00:41:32.500 But, yeah, so we learned our lesson.

00:41:35.220 We took the criticisms we got from that to heart.

00:41:39.040 It was fun, but it didn't work.

00:41:41.740 People criticized us, I think, fairly, pointed out where we were weak by using these journals,

00:41:46.540 and instead we committed to a few things going into this new project.

00:41:51.220 One is that we would not use pay-to-publish journals in any sense.

00:41:56.140 Secondly, and by the way, they don't charge like $100.

00:41:59.220 They charge like a couple thousand.

00:42:01.880 It's really kind of a financial racket going on there.

00:42:04.920 It's its own big problem, and I hope people continue to address it.

00:42:08.120 Secondly, we decided that we would use the highest-ranked journals within the disciplines

00:42:15.280 that we were examining that we could get into.

00:42:17.300 So we would start at the best journal we could find for what we were doing

00:42:20.320 and then work our way down.

00:42:21.580 If that one didn't take it, we'd go to the next one.

00:42:24.400 And then, thirdly, we committed to being transparent about our results no matter what happened.

00:42:28.680 So if we had gone crash and burn, complete failure,

00:42:32.800 then that would have been what we reported.

00:42:37.220 I don't think it would have gotten much attention,

00:42:39.000 but we would have come out and admitted that we were wrong.

00:42:41.360 But that's not what happened.

00:42:44.680 And early on in the process, not just to keep us honest,

00:42:49.100 because I think we would have kept our promise,

00:42:51.080 but early on in the process, we ended up in contact with a documentary filmmaker

00:42:55.140 who was interested in this stuff already.

00:42:57.140 So he's been recording us for a year.

00:42:58.980 His name is Mike Naina.

00:43:00.680 And since he's been recording us, I mean, clearly whatever happened is going to come out.

00:43:05.220 So there it is.

00:43:07.220 Okay, so before we take a break and get into what you actually got published,

00:43:12.980 tell me about the work behind it.

00:43:16.220 This took a year to do.

00:43:17.880 What kind of time are you looking at?

00:43:21.480 Well, the easiest kind of thing to look at with this is I had exactly five social outings between Thanksgiving

00:43:30.400 and when the project came out into the public.

00:43:34.680 I took maybe that many days off, including weekends.

00:43:38.740 I worked probably 80 to 90 hours a week, almost every week.

00:43:41.960 My two collaborators worked also very, very hard.

00:43:48.100 Peter put in at least a full-time job.

00:43:50.840 Helen did most of the same.

00:43:52.300 And I know you talked to Helen the other day.

00:43:53.720 So this was an immense amount of work.

00:43:57.800 It required learning these fields very quickly, writing academic papers, a typical academic will publish a couple a year maybe if they're working hard.

00:44:05.800 And we wrote 20.

00:44:09.560 Holy cow. 0.89

00:44:10.660 Yeah, it's a lot of work.

00:44:12.680 It was an insane amount of work.

00:44:14.240 And these are all fields we have no expertise in.

00:44:16.740 Helen has a little bit of background in some of this.

00:44:19.520 But this was primarily having to learn this material on the fly with no education, with no teachers instructing us.

00:44:27.980 Our only feedback was how our papers fared in the peer review process and then reading what was out there to try to emulate it.

00:44:34.340 And so what does having something published in one of these magazines mean?

00:44:40.460 What does it mean to the author and to the educational community?

00:44:46.480 So for the author, it is the absolute pinnacle of what an academic is trying to do in the research side of their career, is to get papers published in well-established journals.

00:44:57.760 For example, Hypatia is one of the journals we got a paper in.

00:45:00.920 And Hypatia is the feminist philosophy journal with probably the highest standing.

00:45:06.440 So it would carry a lot of weight looking at the academic community that that scholar is embedded in.

00:45:11.560 So they could take that to their university and say, hey, I got this many papers published.

00:45:15.560 If people are being considered for tenure, there's a research component to that.

00:45:19.480 Depends on how the school wants to do their tenuring process.

00:45:23.180 But typically, seven papers spanning seven to ten years is considered the basic research requirement to be qualified for tenure.

00:45:32.740 Our papers spanned – the ones we wrote spanned 15 sub-disciplines of thought.

00:45:38.140 The ones that got accepted spanned seven.

00:45:40.680 And so we've got big journals.

00:45:44.400 We've got seven disciplines that papers got into.

00:45:46.860 We probably would have had more had we not been cut short.

00:45:49.360 But you had 12 in the pipeline that looked like they would be published.

00:45:55.680 And then this came out.

00:45:56.780 And so you pulled those.

00:45:58.840 But you might have had as many as 12.

00:46:01.660 I think, honestly, we had 14 that weren't dead yet.

00:46:05.260 And I can say with some confidence that I think 12 would have gotten in and possibly 13.

00:46:11.120 So I would guess with pretty good confidence that somewhere between 11 and 13 would have gotten in in the end had we not gotten pulled.

00:46:17.520 Okay.

00:46:18.240 So when we come back, we'll go into – and remember, we're on public airwaves.

00:46:23.740 So we'll be as careful as we can to discuss what was in each of these papers and what they got a little gold star for.

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00:48:26.380 These now published studies are just tremendous.

00:48:33.060 I mean, I don't know if you guys had beers before you came up with this or how you guys came up with these, but they're fantastic.

00:48:40.280 Let's go through some of them one by one.

00:48:42.260 Let's start with the first one, Dog Park.

00:48:44.100 Dog Park, the thesis is Dog Parks are Rape Condoning Spaces. 0.59

00:48:50.580 Tell me about it.

00:48:52.780 Well, it's kind of funny, actually.

00:48:54.680 I'll tell you a story.

00:48:56.500 We all got together to have this come public as best we could.

00:49:01.460 So I went to Portland.

00:49:02.480 We all went to Portland, Oregon to get ready for this project to come out to the public.

00:49:08.460 And we went to the dog park on the first day I got there.

00:49:10.840 I got off the plane.

00:49:12.220 I took an Uber.

00:49:12.980 Next thing you know, I'm walking Peter's dogs up to the dog park with our filmmaker.

00:49:18.420 And we get to the dog park, and there's this dog there that's living out the paper.

00:49:23.080 It was crazy.

00:49:23.740 This dog was fighting the other dogs, pinning them down, humping them left, right, and center.

00:49:29.300 The owner comes over, swings the ball thrower at the dog gently.

00:49:34.460 I'll point out he wasn't being abusive.

00:49:35.980 And then he says, stop humping.

00:49:38.380 And then we get to lean over to the filmmaker and kind of mutter, I guess a little too loudly,

00:49:43.580 but maybe we should start interrogating people about their sexuality, given what's going down here.

00:49:49.180 And then this lady yells out to me, oh, no, no, it's okay. 0.89

00:49:52.260 She's the girl dog. 0.99

00:49:53.140 And I was like, oh, man, this paper's happening for real.

00:49:56.340 So what is the thesis?

00:50:03.260 So the thesis was, well, the original idea behind the thesis was that we should write a feminist paper 0.95

00:50:11.480 arguing that we should train men the way that we train dogs to prevent rape culture.

00:50:17.220 And so I thought that up the day.

00:50:19.960 I thought it was pretty funny when I was brainstorming ideas for papers.

00:50:22.980 Threw it to Peter.

00:50:23.960 Peter takes his dogs to the dog park every day.

00:50:27.600 He said, let's work in some of the stuff from the dog park.

00:50:30.220 And as we started working in just, you know, absolutely absurd ideas from what might be considered

00:50:37.080 the most ridiculous dog park in the world, the paper grew into that.

00:50:42.420 And so we made it about so-called queer performativity and human reactions at the dog park 0.97

00:50:47.920 and then ended up concluding things like that we should be able to leash men like we leash dogs to prevent rape,

00:50:56.140 except it's not politically feasible.

00:50:58.000 And it would be great if we could put shock collars on men, but that's not okay either.

00:51:05.980 So we have to shock them out of, you know, hitting on women by screaming at them to scare them

00:51:10.680 and get them to desist from their behavior. 0.85

00:51:13.420 The thesis of the paper was, though, that humans reacted differently to gay dog humping 0.87

00:51:21.120 as opposed to straight dog humping. 0.97

00:51:24.080 And men were far worse about this than women. 0.95

00:51:28.220 And then we concluded that this is indicative of rape culture. 0.96

00:51:32.040 And we called the dog park rape condoning space, which we then likened to nightclubs.

00:51:37.300 We said nightclubs are also rape condoning spaces with no evidence for that whatsoever.

00:51:41.600 We just said it.

00:51:42.140 So that was pretty out there.

00:51:47.020 That one was really out there.

00:51:49.240 I think it's, I don't know, maybe the one about the feminist spirituality meetings and poetry.

00:51:55.860 It's a little more out there, but it's probably close to the most.

00:51:59.140 Well, let's finish the dog park.

00:52:01.360 This one was accepted and reviewed.

00:52:03.840 Some of the reviews, this is a wonderful paper, incredibly innovative, rich in analysis,

00:52:08.960 extremely well-written and organized, yada, yada.

00:52:13.340 I believe this intellectually and empirically exciting paper must be published.

00:52:19.560 And congratulate the author on the research done and in the writer.

00:52:24.000 And in the writer.

00:52:25.220 Yeah.

00:52:25.940 That was one of the most disturbing parts of this, I feel like.

00:52:28.440 Because, again, it wasn't like these journals looked at this and didn't really go through it

00:52:33.520 and kind of just made its way through the process.

00:52:36.020 There are very specific comments from dozens of reviewers who are doing peer review 0.97

00:52:42.160 and saying specific things that you wrote that are completely ridiculous 0.59

00:52:46.980 are amazing new accomplishments in the field.

00:52:50.440 I mean, that had to be, while funny and it proved your point,

00:52:53.280 it had to be really disturbing as well.

00:52:55.580 Oh, yeah.

00:52:56.500 That's by far what we consider to be the most important evidence that we gathered

00:53:00.720 in the process of this project.

00:53:03.060 That the papers got published or that they got awards in some cases, or one case,

00:53:08.100 and all of this, it's fine.

00:53:09.720 I mean, it says a lot and it's disturbing.

00:53:12.040 But the reviewers' comments show that these peer reviewers,

00:53:16.340 which worked out between two and four or five per paper,

00:53:20.420 so we ended up with something like 45 or 50 total sets of comments,

00:53:26.300 they really did engage with what we did.

00:53:28.300 They really looked at it.

00:53:29.500 They said our analysis was good when our analysis was terrible.

00:53:35.780 They didn't raise an eyebrow about the data we gathered.

00:53:38.720 The idea that, you know, that dog park paper contains a bit of completely irrelevant evidence

00:53:46.900 about where dogs go to the bathroom in unauthorized ways, as we worded it,

00:53:51.580 and that's completely irrelevant to the paper, but nobody raised an eyebrow about how ridiculous that is.

00:53:57.840 They were concerned, however, that we indicate that we're humans, not dogs,

00:54:02.600 so that we can be sure that we don't claim that when a dog does a humping of another dog,

00:54:11.040 whether or not the dog that got humped wanted it or not,

00:54:13.260 because how could we know that as being humans, not dogs?

00:54:17.000 And they were really concerned, as I hope everybody's seen in our little video we put out to announce the project,

00:54:23.380 they were really concerned with the fact that we respect the dog's privacy

00:54:26.780 in the process of inspecting their genitals. 0.81

00:54:30.780 Wait. 0.83

00:54:33.540 What specifically were they concerned about?

00:54:37.800 I mean, the privacy of the dog.

00:54:39.520 I mean, you got me, man.

00:54:42.980 That it was done in the privacy of a veterinary office?

00:54:48.000 Okay.

00:54:49.600 Let's see.

00:54:50.440 You did fat bodybuilding, which quickly is what?

00:54:55.700 That's the idea that what needs to be added to the professional sport of bodybuilding

00:55:00.200 is a category in which fat is displayed politically,

00:55:04.120 so that fat is just considered another tissue that's equal with muscle.

00:55:09.120 And to say that that's not true is to be mean to fat people.

00:55:14.440 Fat phobic, as they call it.

00:55:16.100 It's incredible.

00:55:17.240 And that was accepted?

00:55:20.040 Yeah, that was accepted.

00:55:21.220 That was a pretty exciting acceptance,

00:55:24.340 especially because we actually had a real scholar who let us use his identity,

00:55:31.020 who we claimed wrote that paper.

00:55:32.820 He actually is a professional bodybuilder, Mr. Northern Hemisphere, 1978 or something.

00:55:37.760 I mean, this guy's 70 years old and just stacked.

00:55:40.920 And the picture in my mind of this guy being the author of this paper for fat bodybuilding

00:55:46.320 was just kind of hilarious.

00:55:49.800 Because that was another thing, too.

00:55:50.780 A lot of these papers, you had completely fake organizations.

00:55:54.540 You had completely fake scholars coming from colleges that I think didn't exist in some cases.

00:55:59.800 I mean, some of this would have been easily disproved by basic checking.

00:56:03.740 Wouldn't it have?

00:56:05.200 I think so.

00:56:06.360 I mean, this is a tricky point.

00:56:09.220 And I don't want to get too far into the weeds here.

00:56:11.540 But honestly, scholarship should stand or fall on its merits, not on who did it.

00:56:17.080 And so a lot of people are making that point.

00:56:19.860 And we deliberately chose names that would be hard to find in a Google search.

00:56:23.860 In specific, we chose very common names on purpose.

00:56:27.020 I actually used – I rolled dice to pick off of a list of the most common names for certain years.

00:56:35.640 And so that way they would blend in with lots of people.

00:56:38.160 Okay, hang on, hang on.

00:56:38.960 I've got to take another break, and then we'll come back and finish.

00:56:41.540 Why you thought that was important, and go through some of the other studies.

00:56:47.520 Back in just a second.

00:56:53.120 We're talking to Dr. James Lindsay, author of Life in Light of Death.

00:56:59.040 He is – you can follow him at ConceptualJames on Twitter.

00:57:05.920 He is one of the – if not the mastermind behind the papers of record that were being written for feminist studies and queer studies.

00:57:20.940 And were published in some of the leading journals and critiqued, but not really critiqued in a way that most people would.

00:57:31.720 I'll just quickly go through some of them going in through the back door, which is not something we're going to discuss here that's really great. 0.56

00:57:39.820 Rubbing one out, the violence of objectification through non-consensual masturbation. 0.81

00:57:49.200 Then we get to some really disturbing ones. 0.98

00:57:52.040 The progressive stack.

00:57:55.000 James, tell us about the progressive stack.

00:57:57.080 Yeah, the progressive stack is a pretty horrifying piece of work.

00:58:01.520 In fact, it's evil.

00:58:04.460 Fortunately, it did not get accepted.

00:58:07.020 The journal was inviting us to resubmit it and give it another go.

00:58:14.800 It says it's a solid essay that, with revision, will make a strong contribution to the growing literature of addressing injustice in the classroom.

00:58:24.420 Yeah, and so what it argues for is that we take students in college classrooms and we have them go through some kind of a inventory that determines how privileged they are.

00:58:36.360 It recommends a thing called the step-forward, step-back game as a possibility.

00:58:42.120 Once they determine how privileged they are, the students are ranked according to their privilege.

00:58:47.440 Then the more privileged you are, the worse you get treated in class.

00:58:50.780 So the most privileged white and male students are invited to listen and learn throughout the semester, which means they aren't allowed to speak or ask questions in class. 0.51

00:59:01.480 They're invited to sit in the floor in chains to experience reparations and level the knowing field to de- and re-privilege the classroom learning environment.

00:59:13.620 And the problem that the reviewers seem to have with this set of suggestions was that we thought there's no way this will get in.

00:59:23.840 We have to temper it by saying we have to be compassionate to these students as we put them in the floor in chains.

00:59:28.840 And they said, watch it with a compassion that re-centers the needs of the privileged over the oppressed.

00:59:36.060 And there's this idea out there called the pedagogy of discomfort, which means that you learn to overcome your privilege by being made uncomfortable and left to sit in that without being comforted.

00:59:47.420 And so they actually wanted to make a terrible, scary idea properly evil.

00:59:53.380 And that's the worst part is it's only a small step from what already exists in a great deal of the feminist and race-based education literature. 0.98

01:00:04.860 So this was not this was not accepted because it didn't it wasn't bad enough?

01:00:09.880 At first, yeah. And then later, they were a bit concerned with the depth of a scholarship and the kind of routine things that you would expect out of a scholarly paper.

01:00:21.980 They claimed, for example, that we drew on too many concepts and it would be confusing for the reader and to try to narrow it down to something a bit tighter and so on.

01:00:29.520 But the idea that giving students experiential reparations and asking them not to be able to speak in class or to be spoken over and interrupted to teach them what that feels like.

01:00:43.080 None of that was questioned.

01:00:46.080 So what if this were published and it were real, if this were published, what would that mean to the university system?

01:00:53.860 What does that mean?

01:00:56.640 So all these answers are really complicated.

01:00:59.520 There would be people who try to take this out.

01:01:02.380 In fact, we got the idea from a news article about somebody at the University of Pennsylvania who was employing a similar but less extreme version of this in her classroom and got in trouble for it late last year.

01:01:16.000 So this idea didn't come to us out of the vacuum.

01:01:19.420 This was actually something that people are attempting in classrooms.

01:01:22.820 And so there would have been some educators primarily working in social justice side field topics courses, I guess is the best way to say that, but also probably into some of the general ed stuff who would take up some degree of these suggestions as, you know, experimental but legitimate to use in the classroom.

01:01:44.980 And this was being submitted to the gold standard journal.

01:01:49.120 This wasn't some fringe journal in education.

01:01:51.360 This was the gold standard feminist philosophy journal, Hypatia, that we were working with here, which is where a lot of the literature that's like this already exists.

01:01:59.380 Which, if you don't mind me going on a little bit, this is kind of what's happening.

01:02:03.580 We think that what's happening here is kind of the equivalent with ideas of money laundering, called idea laundering.

01:02:12.780 So they take these bad ideas, some of which are just opinions.

01:02:17.900 Some of them are prejudiced.

01:02:19.180 Some of them are genuinely terrifying, like this educational thing.

01:02:23.560 And then they launder them through the academic process, and they come out with a stamp of academic approval that makes them look like they're real knowledge.

01:02:31.600 So you'll hear people say, oh, well, there was a study, or we've based this program on studies that show.

01:02:37.260 Well, that's fine when the studies are good, but when the studies are coming from a place that can't tell truth from prejudice and opinion, it becomes a real problem.

01:02:49.640 James, one of the other ones I found disturbing was the HOH2 and HOH1.

01:02:57.980 And HOH2 was accepted.

01:03:01.740 Can you explain this one?

01:03:04.800 Yeah, that paper was accepted by Hypatia, the same journal I was just mentioning.

01:03:09.020 That HOH stood for hoax on hoaxes. 0.69

01:03:12.200 So it was a hoax paper we wrote that was about writing academic hoaxes.

01:03:16.240 It's just a code name we gave for convenience.

01:03:18.120 What it argues is that you can only properly criticize things that go against social justice.

01:03:26.240 And in particular, you can only use humor to make fun of or use satire to deflate that which goes against social justice.

01:03:34.420 If you use humor against social justice, if you criticize social justice, what that means is you never really properly engaged with it.

01:03:41.080 Therefore, we don't have to consider your criticism.

01:03:43.400 And that's one of the huge problems going on in this set of fields is that they don't accept criticism.

01:03:51.240 If you try to criticize them, they say that it's privilege preserving epistemic pushback.

01:03:55.680 That's a scholar named Allison Bailey, who's huge in the education literature.

01:03:59.420 They say it's white fragility.

01:04:01.420 That's Robin DiAngelo, who has just had a big book published on that this year, but introduced a concept in 2011, which says that if somebody with privilege, in particular white people for her work, is challenged so that their privilege is put into question, that they are fragile and don't know how to deal with it because their privilege made them weak.

01:04:21.920 They don't know how to psychologically deal with having that challenge, and they act out in anger or grief or something like that in trying to maintain their privilege.

01:04:31.200 And so these ideas are already getting out there.

01:04:35.100 We just took them a step further.

01:04:38.420 It's interesting because the one about hoaxes is interesting in that if to criticize what you guys did, they would almost have to cite your paper.

01:04:48.640 That was the idea, yeah.

01:04:50.940 It was definitely to put them in that position.

01:04:53.280 And I've asked Hypatia to stand by the paper that they accepted and published in our right names.

01:04:57.920 They haven't responded yet, but we'll see what they do.

01:05:00.900 That way, indeed, people who want to criticize our project from a position of intersectional feminism will need to cite us in order to criticize us.

01:05:10.820 Unbelievable.

01:05:11.620 Can we get one more, Glenn?

01:05:13.080 You talked about this on the scary front.

01:05:15.700 The feminist Mein Kampf.

01:05:17.000 Well, you also did the white man Mein Kampf.

01:05:20.660 You did two.

01:05:22.000 One, the feminist was accepted, and the white man wasn't, right?

01:05:26.380 Correct.

01:05:27.320 Okay, tell me about them.

01:05:29.660 So I'll do the white one first because it didn't get in.

01:05:32.660 It was much more frightening.

01:05:34.260 It was written from the position of an auto-ethnography where the researcher is reflecting on, in this case, her own experience as a white lesbian woman coming to hate her own whiteness.

01:05:45.160 And it was rejected partly because the scholarship wasn't quite fair, which is the case in all of the papers, but also because it positioned the author as a good white rather than being sufficiently supplicant or whatever to critical race theories.

01:05:59.960 So there was an explicitly political reasoning behind why it was rejected, and it was that the author, as a white woman, was trying to make herself look good by criticizing her own whiteness.

01:06:12.540 It was one of the main reasons.

01:06:14.800 The feminist one was... 1.00

01:06:16.620 Well, hold on just a second.

01:06:17.700 Hold on just a second.

01:06:18.240 And that took the parts of Mein Kampf where he was talking about Jews and replaced the words Jews with whites.

01:06:28.300 Yeah, in that case, it was either whites or whiteness, and then we edited the text around it and added a whole bunch of literature and reworded things so it would get past plagiarism checks and things like that. 0.52

01:06:38.840 So, yeah, that was a...

01:06:41.120 It started with scanning through Mein Kampf, picking out passages about the Jews and replacing Jews with whites or whiteness, and then editing around it.

01:06:52.700 The feminist one didn't do it quite the same way. 1.00

01:06:55.300 The feminist one was not about... 1.00

01:06:56.640 It didn't take Jews out and replace it with men, for example. 0.98

01:07:00.980 It actually is the chapter in Mein Kampf where Hitler explains the need for the Nazi party.

01:07:06.440 That's chapter 12, and what its members would be expected to hold to, including especially the sacrifices that they have to make to be Nazis.

01:07:16.660 And we replaced our movement, the party, etc.

01:07:20.680 He doesn't mention Nazis specifically in that chapter.

01:07:23.620 We replaced that with intersectional feminism or solidarity or allyship, something to do with the feminist movement, 0.99

01:07:30.920 and criticized the idea that some feminists do what they call choice feminism, 1.00

01:07:37.940 which is the idea that if a woman is living her own life the way she wants to and considers that to be a statement of feminism, 1.00

01:07:44.940 then she is doing feminism. 1.00

01:07:47.400 It's feminist for women to have, you know, full agency and make their own choices in the world. 1.00

01:07:51.000 That's what this paper was criticizing,

01:07:52.700 saying that, no, no, their responsibility, if they really want to consider themselves feminists, 0.51

01:07:57.480 is to make sacrifices and stand in solidarity with other oppressed people,

01:08:03.000 particularly of, you know, women of color or women of other marginalized statuses.

01:08:09.380 James, a couple of quick questions.

01:08:12.860 A, this had to be one of those things that you entered into and hoped that you were wrong,

01:08:19.060 and when they were accepted, you had to celebrate, and then a short time later going,

01:08:24.780 good God, this is bad.

01:08:27.460 Am I right?

01:08:28.360 That is exactly right.

01:08:30.480 So especially with the Mein Kampf paper, I think, when they got accepted,

01:08:34.720 the idea there was that we were trying to, it's very different from Mein Kampf, of course.

01:08:40.420 Don't let me mislead you that it's a one-to-one thing.

01:08:42.620 But the politics of grievance came through,

01:08:47.480 and I really am glad I get to talk to you about this, if I can,

01:08:50.940 because politics of grievance is everywhere,

01:08:53.120 and it's certainly being used in the academic left,

01:08:55.080 as we were trying to demonstrate.

01:08:56.660 We called this stuff grievance studies.

01:08:58.380 But we see it everywhere, right?

01:08:59.560 And I think this is why we're so divided politically right now.

01:09:03.500 I was really happy to talk to you because, I mean,

01:09:06.060 I don't want to get anything touchy with you, but you're a real dude,

01:09:08.480 and that's why I wanted to talk to you.

01:09:09.840 Thanks.

01:09:10.120 You know, you had this whole mea cola about how things were going for you under Obama's time,

01:09:16.620 and I thought that was huge.

01:09:18.120 And I was like, you know, this guy Glenn Beck is a bridge.

01:09:21.300 He's looking for reconciliation.

01:09:22.660 It's on your Twitter bio.

01:09:24.160 We need to be talking to each other again.

01:09:26.340 So our project was, you know, we're people on the left.

01:09:29.240 We're left liberals.

01:09:30.300 I'm not ashamed to say that.

01:09:31.440 I know you consider yourself a classical liberal,

01:09:33.400 and you're conservative on the right.

01:09:35.240 That's great. 0.98

01:09:35.880 We on the left need to take responsibility for our own lunatics.

01:09:40.940 And so our project was kind of that.

01:09:43.040 You know, we're left-wing people who want the left to come back from the edge.

01:09:48.400 And we hope that, you know, the same thing's happening on the right,

01:09:51.140 and we can all start.

01:09:52.100 I think, you know, people in general, I get a lot of sense of this.

01:09:55.520 People send me emails about this now all the time especially.

01:09:58.420 We're all kind of sick of all this nonsense, all the fighting, all the polarization,

01:10:03.480 and we can't get anything done.

01:10:05.160 I think we want to get back to productive politics.

01:10:07.760 And as long as we're relying heavily on this grievance stuff,

01:10:11.220 which clearly the academic left is,

01:10:13.680 I think we see a lot of it coming out of the right-wing media sphere as well,

01:10:17.280 from my perspective.

01:10:18.620 I think as long as we're focusing on that, we can't have productive conversations.

01:10:21.940 We can't remember, you know, you're an American.

01:10:24.840 I'm an American.

01:10:25.740 You're a person.

01:10:26.700 I'm a person.

01:10:27.440 We have most of, I bet, the things that we think in common,

01:10:32.060 even though we have some probably pretty serious political differences.

01:10:35.300 But I think we also have in common that we want to have better conversations.

01:10:38.440 We want to move society in a direction that benefits us all.

01:10:42.140 And it's just a matter of working out the details.

01:10:44.880 And I really hope that, you know, that our project kind of reaches that point.

01:10:50.140 Does that make sense?

01:10:51.460 It totally does.

01:10:52.480 I hate to say this, too.

01:10:54.380 I'm out of time.

01:10:55.220 Could I invite you to come down and do a podcast with me?

01:11:00.020 You know, we could spend an hour and a half uninterrupted and just start where we've just left off.

01:11:07.000 Yeah, I'd love that.

01:11:08.480 That'd be great.

01:11:09.480 Great.

01:11:10.160 James, thank you so much for all of your hard work and for your honesty.

01:11:15.320 It is greatly appreciated, hopefully from the left and the right.

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01:13:38.000 Election by numbers.

01:13:40.440 Well, it would be great if this 2018 played the wrong one, but election by the numbers.

01:13:45.380 Here we are.

01:13:46.280 2018 midterm election.

01:13:49.100 And what do the numbers look like, Stu?

01:13:51.080 Depending on what you're looking at, you can find a lot of good and a lot of bad if you happen to be a Republican or are rooting for conservatives to have a chance here to pass anything.

01:14:00.980 Obviously, you need both to really have a good chance of passing anything, and as we've seen over the past couple years, even that is no guarantee you'll be able to get anything done.

01:14:10.680 But what you're seeing now is really good polling for the GOP in the Senate.

01:14:14.980 A lot of these races that were close have moved the GOP's direction.

01:14:18.480 To get to 50, which is what they need, of course, to have control with Mike Pence as the deciding vote, you need to have—there's about 10 races there.

01:14:28.240 And they've knocked out most of the—now just the ones that lean in their category, get them to 50. 0.90

01:14:32.780 There's an additional seven toss-up races where they could get all the way up to 57 if they were to sweep those.

01:14:38.440 You know, maybe even outside shot at something dramatic, maybe even getting to 58.

01:14:42.640 Most likely, you're probably in that area of 53 or 54 right now, which is an improvement over the current situation in the Senate.

01:14:49.060 But if they lose the House, it doesn't mean anything.

01:14:50.960 Yeah, you know, it doesn't mean—it means something, but it doesn't mean a heck of a lot because you're not going to be able to pass anything because, you know, the House is going to vote the other way.

01:14:58.500 And the House is where it looks—things look very bad for Republicans.

01:15:02.180 It's interesting the way that they're looking at this is not whether—usually it's like, will the party lose or gain seats, right?

01:15:10.660 That's the way we usually typically look at these things.

01:15:12.780 And then there's the control angle as well, who will control the House.

01:15:16.040 Well, if you notice, you haven't heard a lot of talk about whether Republicans will gain any seats, largely because it looks like it's not even possible at this point.

01:15:25.060 In fact, the polling models that they have working right now, 538 has one, which they have the chance of Republicans maintaining their current amount of seats at less than 0.1%.

01:15:37.600 Now, you might say, oh, well, they've gotten—you know, there was issues with—they didn't get Trump right, which is the thing every time I talk about polls.

01:15:43.400 They're like, oh, well, they didn't get Trump right.

01:15:44.540 Well, first of all, the national polls were almost exactly dead on for Donald Trump.

01:15:47.860 It just didn't get the Electoral College right, but that also wasn't what they were polling, right?

01:15:53.340 Some of the states were obviously wrong.

01:15:55.860 But, for example, 538, I believe, had about a 30% chance that they thought Donald Trump would win.

01:16:01.320 They're saying there's a 0.1%, less than a 0.1% chance that the Republicans will maintain the same amount of seats in the House.

01:16:08.520 In fact, they are saying the equal chance that Republicans maintain the same amount of seats as Democrats gaining 83 seats.

01:16:18.400 Now, both of those are extreme outliers, right?

01:16:21.000 Like, they don't think either one of those is going to happen.

01:16:22.680 But the chances of the Democrats just controlling the House are about 80%.

01:16:28.960 Again, more certain, if you want to use those words, or more probable is the right way to say it, than Donald Trump being elected.

01:16:38.620 Or more probable than Hillary Clinton being elected, right?

01:16:41.860 So, it's a big difference.

01:16:44.280 And what you're seeing, oddly, after the Kavanaugh thing, is I think people kind of going and hardening their own sides, where the far left really hardened their own sides.

01:16:54.580 So, districts that were left-leaning have become more left-leaning.

01:16:59.020 Districts that were more right-leaning, and a lot of these states that we're talking about in the Senate are red states.

01:17:04.220 So, those states have actually improved for the GOP since Kavanaugh.

01:17:08.300 What we're seeing in the middle, though, in these purple districts in the House, is movement towards the Democrats.

01:17:13.160 So far, there's a lot of movement in the generic sort of congressional poll, where you see, you know, generically, what party do you prefer?

01:17:24.060 Right.

01:17:24.520 There's been a movement of about six or seven points in that area towards Democrats.

01:17:28.720 So, what it looks like right now, and again, these things can change with large developments, obviously, you know, something like a war were to break out.

01:17:37.520 These would change completely.

01:17:38.960 You know, individual scandals can change these things as well.

01:17:41.640 But the Republicans look like, as of this moment, they're in really good shape to control the Senate, and really bad shape to continue their control of the House.

01:17:50.200 What is that going to mean?

01:18:00.320 I mean, look at the extreme policies that the left is looking to push in through the Democratic Party.

01:18:11.260 Free health care.

01:18:13.120 Single-payer.

01:18:14.280 I'm sorry.

01:18:14.880 Single-payer health care.

01:18:16.140 Free health care.

01:18:16.760 Free college.

01:18:17.500 Um, uh, repeal the taxes.

01:18:22.000 They are looking for an even bigger, uh, infrastructure package than what Donald Trump was even, uh, asking for.

01:18:30.860 And you mentioned health care, Medicare for all.

01:18:32.800 In 2013, Bernie Sanders proposed this and got zero co-sponsors.

01:18:37.260 Zero.

01:18:38.160 He was the only one who would publicly support it.

01:18:40.540 Now, you look at the top ten.

01:18:42.560 CNN has a list of the top ten Democratic candidates.

01:18:45.760 Which, by the way, will not be enough to cover the field.

01:18:48.220 There's going to be a lot more than ten, I think.

01:18:49.980 Uh, but, I mean, everybody with the exception of Joe Biden, who I will not be surprised at all if he comes out and does endorse Medicare for all.

01:19:00.020 All the big names are for it already.

01:19:02.160 There, many of them were co-sponsors of the bill.

01:19:03.960 Uh, it seems to be this, I mean, the idea that we, in 2010 and 11, were being called racists for suggesting what they wanted was single-payer.

01:19:13.180 And now, here they are.

01:19:15.360 The entire field is endorsing single-payer health care.

01:19:19.040 It's incredible.

01:19:20.180 Yeah, we were scaremongers and racists for saying it.

01:19:22.280 Yeah.

01:19:22.420 So, I just want to go through, there's three stories.

01:19:26.180 We'll go through this tomorrow, but I just want to throw these at you.

01:19:31.500 Cortez was out this weekend.

01:19:33.880 We have to eliminate the Electoral College.

01:19:38.840 Okay, no, that is a fundamental, a fundamental aspect of what brought these states together in the first place.

01:19:48.380 The states said, we don't want the big states telling us what we can do.

01:19:54.640 And if the big states can control everything, well, then, what do we have?

01:20:03.020 It can't be that way.

01:20:05.240 So, we had the Electoral College.

01:20:07.440 We are one state away from losing the Electoral College anyway.

01:20:11.520 You lose Texas and you have New York, California, and Texas.

01:20:16.140 The rest of the country doesn't matter.

01:20:17.460 It'll be those three states.

01:20:19.060 You lock those three states up and it doesn't matter anymore.

01:20:23.140 That's pretty frightening.

01:20:26.180 Pretty frightening.

01:20:28.100 So, now, they're talking about taking apart the Electoral College, which would make all of the red states really pretty much inconsequential.

01:20:38.680 Yeah, I mean, it certainly would change the way the founders thought about the idea of people being elected, right?

01:20:44.520 All you have to do is just appeal to the big cities.

01:20:47.440 And, by the way, this is an idea that, I mean, it's not just Democratic support for getting rid of the Electoral College.

01:20:52.880 I know Trump supports it, for example.

01:20:54.460 It's wrong.

01:20:54.740 You know, I'm not a big fan of the national popular vote.

01:20:57.620 It's certainly not what our founders had in mind.

01:20:59.460 But there is some contingency on both sides of the aisle that actually believe this is the right way to go.

01:21:06.980 Which, I mean, that gets you just basically a country run by cities.

01:21:10.420 I mean, that's, you know, which...

01:21:12.740 Who wants that? 1.00

01:21:13.700 As a Republican, I certainly don't understand why you'd want it.

01:21:16.160 But, again, like, it shouldn't be that way, right?

01:21:19.660 No, the cities could run themselves, and the cities can run whatever they want, and the rulers can do what they want.

01:21:26.780 Why do we all have to live under somebody else's thumb?

01:21:30.260 I don't want to live under a farmer's thumb.

01:21:32.880 No farmer should make the...

01:21:34.300 Although I'd feel better with this than the other way around.

01:21:36.660 No farmer should be telling what somebody in the city has to do and how to live.

01:21:40.500 They don't understand taking any of my farmer friends to Manhattan, their heads would explode within 25 minutes.

01:21:49.200 They would not want to live there.

01:21:51.460 They wouldn't understand it.

01:21:52.800 So why should we have the people in farms and farmlands trying to dictate rules that are good for them that also have to be applied to the city? 0.95

01:22:02.380 It's ridiculous.

01:22:03.900 Right, and it's why the House and Senate both exist. 1.00

01:22:06.420 To give a balance to that, so that not one side can tell the other side, right?

01:22:11.600 You know, no, it's actually, it goes further than this.

01:22:15.320 If you could erase the mistake of the progressives under Wilson, where they changed the meaning of the Senate.

01:22:24.660 The way they got elected.

01:22:25.720 Yeah, it used to be that the House was the place where the people could move and move quickly.

01:22:31.900 So things could be passed because there was a disaster, and things could be passed quickly.

01:22:35.440 Then the next, the first check on the balance of power, the first check on that power, was to go through another body that was a lot slower.

01:22:45.540 The Senate.

01:22:46.200 People are always like, that's too slow.

01:22:47.920 It was designed to be that way.

01:22:50.380 So you go through another body that was much slower.

01:22:52.620 But it wasn't just that it was slower.

01:22:54.720 It was also supposed to be men or women that were selected by their state legislature.

01:23:02.760 Now, what would that do?

01:23:04.040 That would make sure that those guys are beholden to their state, not to the rest of the country.

01:23:11.580 Not figures in national politics.

01:23:13.100 Correct.

01:23:13.520 I shouldn't care what what's his face in New York.

01:23:17.500 It says shouldn't care when Hillary Clinton was senator, Barack Obama was senator.

01:23:22.780 I shouldn't care about that.

01:23:24.040 Because they would be focused on their state and they would be making sure that the federal government would not be eating into the power of their state.

01:23:34.100 Then it goes to the president.

01:23:37.200 And the president is only supposed to veto thing if he finds it unconstitutional.

01:23:44.520 Now they'll say, I think this is unconstitutional, but I'll sign it.

01:23:48.780 Wait, no, that's the opposite.

01:23:50.420 That's the opposite way.

01:23:51.920 You're supposed to veto it.

01:23:53.600 Not if you don't like it.

01:23:55.100 If you find it unconstitutional, if it's unconstitutional, then it would go to the Supreme Court.

01:24:01.140 We've screwed up the balance of power so much.

01:24:06.640 And that's why you have this story today.

01:24:09.560 The United States Senate is a failed institution.

01:24:13.140 You also have this one from Vox.

01:24:15.700 The case for abolishing the Supreme Court.

01:24:20.100 And this story, the Constitution of the United States has failed.

01:24:25.980 I mean, you're just arguing for a king, right?

01:24:28.260 With these several stories in a row that may give you the argument for a king.

01:24:31.620 Right.

01:24:32.240 I mean, OK, really?

01:24:34.020 They failed?

01:24:34.700 Or have we not been using them properly?

01:24:38.380 You know, it's like going out into the woods with a Swiss Army knife and saying,

01:24:46.860 I've been trying to cut down trees and split lumber, and this Swiss Army knife has failed.

01:24:55.300 No, you're not using it properly.

01:24:57.380 That's not what it was meant for.

01:24:59.060 I would also argue the failure part, right?

01:25:00.920 You're talking about what is basically the biggest success story in global history,

01:25:05.440 the United States of America.

01:25:06.840 The fact that it has its problems is well documented.

01:25:09.740 But the idea that you'd call it a failure is patently insane.

01:25:13.800 Insane.

01:25:14.860 Absolutely insane.

01:25:17.220 All right, let's go through a couple of other things.

01:25:19.200 How about the Portland mayor?

01:25:20.380 Who the hell is Ted Wheeler?

01:25:24.020 And how did he ever become mayor of Portland?

01:25:27.300 It's Portland.

01:25:28.680 I think that's how it happened.

01:25:29.700 Yeah, I'm sorry.

01:25:30.200 I'm sorry.

01:25:30.740 I'm sorry.

01:25:31.320 I'm sorry.

01:25:32.260 So, you know, the last week, the Portland mayor refused to let the cops intervene when Antifa

01:25:40.540 was just directing traffic.

01:25:46.200 Excuse me?

01:25:49.660 Can anybody just get up and start directing traffic in Portland?

01:25:53.380 Can I just go out on the street?

01:25:55.380 Can you imagine what would have happened to us in New York City if you would have started

01:25:58.100 directing traffic?

01:25:58.860 Oh, my gosh.

01:26:00.580 You might be disappeared.

01:26:03.140 I mean.

01:26:03.960 Especially if it was a union job.

01:26:05.280 Then you would be.

01:26:06.640 You'd be in the bottom of the river.

01:26:09.160 What laws do you even have in Portland now?

01:26:16.680 You can just go direct traffic.

01:26:18.260 You can break an old man's window.

01:26:20.860 He's driving.

01:26:21.720 He's like, no, I'm not going to.

01:26:23.440 You young whip.

01:26:24.300 And they break his window and chase him down.

01:26:27.300 Police?

01:26:27.960 Nothing.

01:26:28.860 Nothing.

01:26:30.780 Now, I don't know if you saw the mob in.

01:26:34.280 Yes.

01:26:34.600 And I did use the M word. 0.98

01:26:36.180 Gosh.

01:26:36.800 I don't know if you saw the mob in Portland this weekend, but they had a law and order

01:26:43.540 march and Antifa showed up for the law and order march because they, of course, in Portland

01:26:49.920 now are the law.

01:26:51.340 This is Browns shirt stuff.

01:26:53.980 Started beating. 0.73

01:26:56.380 Kicking.

01:26:56.860 Burning flags. 0.91

01:27:00.260 Whatever.

01:27:01.680 That's pretty scary.

01:27:02.460 And the mayor released a statement at a press conference where he said, I was appalled by

01:27:07.520 what I saw in the video, but I support the police's decision not to intervene.

01:27:12.020 How?

01:27:12.940 How?

01:27:13.840 How can you support that decision?

01:27:16.280 How?

01:27:16.440 I mean, I guess that just the idea of, look, this is wrong, but we don't want to make it

01:27:21.680 any worse.

01:27:22.420 He's trying to make it sound as if the police, this is his angle for the mainstream.

01:27:29.420 Our police can do no right.

01:27:32.820 They act and they're just thugs.

01:27:35.440 They don't act and they're do nothings. 0.99

01:27:38.500 So they have no way to win.

01:27:40.960 It's a great observation.

01:27:41.960 There are two political parties and whatever you do, one of them might criticize you.

01:27:46.460 Yes, this is the job of being a mayor, right?

01:27:49.280 If you're the job of being a leader, you're supposed to actually have an idea and do something,

01:27:53.600 which I think he did, by the way.

01:27:55.080 I think you're right.

01:27:55.580 Would you want to say?

01:27:56.320 Not to speak is to speak.

01:27:57.060 Right.

01:27:57.300 When you say for public consumption, that is exactly what he's doing.

01:28:00.180 Yes.

01:28:00.420 His opinion is, oh, geez, we're damned if we do, damned if we don't.

01:28:03.760 But in reality, what he wants is much more on this side than on the police side.

01:28:09.080 Much more on the Antifa side.

01:28:10.620 And you can back that up with how he reacted to the FBI.

01:28:14.560 The FBI building in Portland is is under siege from Antifa. 0.97

01:28:20.900 I mean, think of the balls on these guys. 0.89

01:28:22.960 They take the FBI building and block it off. 0.93

01:28:27.760 So FBI agents are now trapped inside the building.

01:28:31.840 They call for police.

01:28:33.920 Police say we've got to call the mayor.

01:28:36.940 What?

01:28:37.540 I'm calling you dispatch police.

01:28:42.080 We have to call the mayor.

01:28:43.520 The mayor goes on and says, if the FBI thinks that this city is going to back them up, they're in the wrong city.

01:28:52.980 Excuse me.

01:28:53.840 What?

01:28:54.880 What?

01:28:55.680 So the FBI had to get federal officers to come in and get everybody out of that building and into safety.

01:29:04.220 And the town did nothing.

01:29:05.980 Portland did nothing to these guys.

01:29:09.500 I mean, what is this?

01:29:13.640 I mean, it's close to anarchy, right?

01:29:16.760 It's certainly the way that you'd think it would come if it does.

01:29:20.060 It's, you know, the idea that the FBI can't depend on police officers.

01:29:24.160 Forget the FBI.

01:29:25.480 It's just these are people.

01:29:26.800 These are actual real individuals who are in danger.

01:29:29.320 How about the woman who has the food cart across the street from the FBI? 1.00

01:29:35.900 She was threatened with an inch of her life.

01:29:40.160 I think they've had to move out of the city, her and her family.

01:29:42.660 They took her stuff, destroyed it, threatened the neighbors who are coming down and trying to, you know, stick up for her.

01:29:51.460 I mean, they're just they've become animals.

01:29:54.040 They become animals and they claim these are their streets. 0.88

01:29:56.480 No, they're not.

01:29:57.920 No, they're not.

01:29:58.700 Punk.

01:29:59.340 Have you paid for them?

01:30:00.400 Because I think a lot of the people who are trying to make it to work are the ones who actually paid for it.

01:30:06.780 Your streets since when?

01:30:10.600 But read enough history.

01:30:14.400 Usually people who are, you know, national socialists or Marxist radicals of some sort.

01:30:23.140 They're in power and they let this they let this stuff go until the people have had enough and then they do what they want with those people.

01:30:33.340 And they, you know, use those people as cover to seize even more power.

01:30:39.120 That's the way it works on a national scale.

01:30:41.080 I have no idea what this Portland mayor is doing.

01:30:44.260 But it's insane.

01:30:45.480 Meanwhile, Alex, Alec Baldwin, who has a new show on.

01:30:52.080 Where is this new show starting?

01:30:53.460 Do you know?

01:30:55.360 I don't off the top of my head.

01:30:57.800 Yeah, I think it's.

01:30:58.920 Yeah, he's got a new show.

01:31:00.180 ABC.

01:31:00.780 Is it ABC?

01:31:01.860 Yeah.

01:31:02.500 So he's got a new show on ABC.

01:31:04.340 And of course, he's on NBC all the time.

01:31:07.160 He's he was just giving a speech over the weekend.

01:31:11.580 And he was talking about, you know, you know, the elections.

01:31:14.820 I want to make sure it's clear it's elections.

01:31:16.700 But he did say we need to overthrow this government and this government of Donald Trump.

01:31:24.420 Maybe we should watch what we're saying, Alec.

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01:32:24.040 Hey, some good news for you.

01:32:28.920 Caravan of more than a thousand Honduran migrants are headed for the U.S. border.

01:32:33.560 So we got that going for us as well as if there's not enough chaos in the country.

01:32:40.460 All right.

01:32:41.020 We're going to be going out and basically I want to have some laughs.

01:32:44.320 We're going to be out on our tour.

01:32:46.380 Addicted outrage tour a theater near you.

01:32:48.380 All you have to do is find out where and when it's Glenn Beck dot com slash tour.

01:32:53.460 Yeah, we're going to be all over the country.

01:32:55.100 Check out the list.

01:32:56.000 I think it's going to be a fun way of looking at the elections.

01:32:59.440 It's going to be a little different than what you're going to get from like Colbert, for example.

01:33:02.640 You think it'd be a tad different way, a little different lens.

01:33:06.120 Might be a little different lens than than the New York Times and CNN and all of them, really.

01:33:13.040 So it's going to be fun.

01:33:14.100 And it's right before the election and then right after the election as well.

01:33:17.040 So lots to talk about.

01:33:18.840 Glenn Beck dot com slash tour.

01:33:25.900 There is a fascinating story about Michael Buble.

01:33:29.680 If you're a longtime listener of this program, you know that Michael Buble is a friend of the program and somebody that I have known, I think, since before he was really, really famous.

01:33:43.220 This comes from the Daily Mail dot co dot UK.

01:33:50.400 I'm not sure that this I'm not sure that Michael wasn't joking in part of this.

01:33:56.160 Just give you the highlights.

01:33:57.520 Michael Buble is officially retired from music following his son's Noah's following his son.

01:34:02.460 Noah's cancer battle.

01:34:03.960 The singer, 43, explained that the heartache he endured following his son's cancer diagnosis as at just three years old has changed his perception of life.

01:34:12.940 And he is done now with fame with a new album out titled Love on the way.

01:34:20.620 He explained that this is time for him to step away from music, wanting to leave it at the very top after making the perfect record.

01:34:27.520 Michael revealed his decision to quit the industry in what he claimed to be his last interview.

01:34:32.740 My whole being has changed since my son got cancer.

01:34:35.540 He said.

01:34:36.600 Michael Buble says he was embarrassed to realize how egotistical he had become as he nursed his boy Noah back to health.

01:34:43.040 But now he's got his mojo back.

01:34:45.700 The Canadian singer has won four Grammys, sold 75 million records, earning him 35 million dollars a year.

01:34:51.460 He has been married to a stunning Argentinian model and actress for seven years.

01:34:56.600 The couple lived the life of luxury in the three with their three children, Noah, five, Elias, two and daughter, Vidya, Amber, Betty, who is 11 weeks old.

01:35:04.920 Yet all of this seemed meaningless when Noah was diagnosed with liver cancer two years ago.

01:35:09.680 And the devastated couple immediately announced that they were putting their careers on hold for the care of their son.

01:35:15.800 Noah has been declared now cancer free.

01:35:20.320 Michael Buble is very emotional.

01:35:22.500 His brown eyes well up at the mere mention of the C word cancer.

01:35:27.740 There's too many C words now.

01:35:29.220 And it is clear he is living in the shadow of what he describes as two years of hell. 0.57

01:35:33.720 You just want to die, he said.

01:35:35.800 I don't I don't even know how I was breathing.

01:35:39.180 My my wife was the same.

01:35:40.960 And even though I was the stronger of the two of us, I wasn't strong.

01:35:44.280 My wife was.

01:35:45.500 I'm sorry.

01:35:46.200 I can't make it to the end of the sentence.

01:35:48.080 Let's just say we find out who we are with these things.

01:35:51.740 Going through this with Noah, I didn't I didn't question who I was.

01:35:55.780 I just questioned everything else.

01:35:57.260 Why are we here?

01:35:58.560 Is this all there is?

01:35:59.880 Because if this is all there is, there has to be something bigger.

01:36:02.480 He says that one way he got through was to pretend he was in Roberto Roberto Benigni's character from Life is Beautiful.

01:36:12.480 I don't know if that was a choice, he said, but that's who I became.

01:36:15.640 For instance, I never called it the hospital.

01:36:17.360 I called it the fun hotel.

01:36:20.820 He said every day I got extra bedsheets and I would build a tent for Noah.

01:36:25.000 I just made the best of it.

01:36:26.960 It's such a difficult exercise.

01:36:28.620 It hurts me and it hurts to talk about Noah because it's not my story to tell.

01:36:32.620 It's his.

01:36:33.560 But my whole life has changed my perception of life.

01:36:37.120 I don't even know if I could get through this conversation without crying.

01:36:39.540 And I never lost control of my emotions before in public.

01:36:42.480 I actually thought I'd never come back to the music business.

01:36:45.840 I never fell out of love with music.

01:36:47.440 I just needed to put it aside.

01:36:49.380 What was hard was going to the store and buying hot dogs and toilet paper and going to the gas station,

01:36:53.960 going for a walk by the sea to clear my head.

01:36:56.600 Everyone recognizes me and says, how's your son?

01:36:59.380 You think you're close to getting over it and you're sucked right back into it.

01:37:02.580 But at the same time, I was given back my faith in humanity.

01:37:06.120 He said the illness made him realize he needed to make a change in his life.

01:37:13.840 I spent a good time, a good deal of time with people who aren't so lucky.

01:37:19.360 And this terrible news came.

01:37:20.900 I realized I wasn't really having fun in the music business.

01:37:23.920 I had lost the joy.

01:37:25.660 And at some point just before the Brits, I was starting to lose the plot.

01:37:30.940 I'd become desperate to hold on to something I thought I might be losing.

01:37:34.540 And I thought I had to do something special to keep it.

01:37:37.500 I started doing things out of my comfort zone, like presenting.

01:37:40.380 And the truth is, it had been a while since I had been having fun.

01:37:44.040 I started to worry about ticket sales for my tours, what the critics said, what the perception of me might be.

01:37:51.000 I felt like I was living with this over my face and the reality I was seeing was all blurred by it.

01:37:58.320 I decided I never wanted to read my name in print again, never read a review.

01:38:02.860 And I never have.

01:38:04.320 I decided I'd never use social media again, and I never have. 0.97

01:38:07.920 But the diagnosis made me realize how stupid I had been to worry about all of these unimportant things. 0.97

01:38:13.420 I was embarrassed by my ego. 0.99

01:38:17.280 I was embarrassed that it allowed this insecurity.

01:38:19.980 I realized that for many years, I couldn't believe I was on the same stage as my heroes.

01:38:26.780 I couldn't believe I was looking across somebody like Paul McCartney and saying things like,

01:38:31.200 it's hard to get here, but my God, it's harder to stay here.

01:38:34.940 Then I woke up and thought, after 10 years of trying to get here and five years of being scared that it would go away,

01:38:40.100 I think I can enjoy it.

01:38:41.800 After his son's illness, he says, I just don't have the stomach for it anymore.

01:38:49.080 The celebrity narcissism.

01:38:51.120 It started to, I started to crumble, but then I started to wonder why I wanted to do it in the first place.

01:38:57.060 I had forgotten that it was all about souls connecting because I'd become so anxious.

01:39:03.120 There were people in my business life saying, if you hadn't done this or that, if you'd written a better song,

01:39:08.120 tickets might be selling quicker.

01:39:09.760 I started to take all of that on board, and no one wanted to take any responsibility.

01:39:14.640 It's just so much easier for people to pass the buck to me because I was insecure enough already.

01:39:19.860 I would digest it and say, it's my fault. 0.99

01:39:21.960 I'm rubbish. 0.84

01:39:23.200 It affected me, and I started to think, it's all going to go. 0.98

01:39:26.180 I'm going to lose everything.

01:39:28.940 It is fascinating to read these things from him because what I've always felt about Michael Buble was he was just having fun.

01:39:43.540 He was just living a dream, and I wondered, and I never spotted it in him.

01:39:51.600 I just wondered if it was ever going to get old to him because what makes him, I think, the best performer I've ever seen on stage is that joy.

01:40:04.340 He just has a joy of performance, and it is so infectious.

01:40:12.600 Yeah, he loves it.

01:40:13.940 I mean, you can tell when you see him live, you can tell he just absolutely loves doing it, or at least did at one point.

01:40:20.320 But they're starting to talk about, I mean, there's conflicting reports that he's actually thinking about stopping it completely.

01:40:26.460 He says,

01:40:56.440 I think he's joking about, because he says, I miss the guys in my band.

01:41:03.400 So when my wife had to go back to Argentina, I said to the guys, come on over to the house.

01:41:07.620 Let's have a drink, order some pizza, play some video games, and jam.

01:41:11.280 They came over, and we partied, and I said, let's play some music.

01:41:14.400 And I thought, wow, this is fun.

01:41:17.060 It was then that I realized I missed making music.

01:41:20.540 I didn't even know I missed it.

01:41:22.180 That was about a year ago.

01:41:24.700 So why would he possibly be saying that he is now?

01:41:28.940 It seems like it might be one of those situations where the internet has taken somewhat a sarcastic comment and turned it into reality.

01:41:37.120 His spokespeople are coming out today and saying that he's not actually going to retire because he's in the middle of a tour and a book, album release, and all that other stuff.

01:41:46.800 So here's what he says exactly to the reporter.

01:41:50.960 He pauses.

01:41:51.800 There are three reasons I wanted to do this album.

01:41:54.040 One, because I felt a debt of gratitude, deeper than I can explain to the millions of people all over the world who prayed for us and showed us compassion.

01:42:01.320 That gave me faith in humanity.

01:42:03.680 Two, because I love music and I feel I can continue the legacy of my idols.

01:42:07.880 And three, because if the world was ending, not just my own personal hell, but watching the political turmoil in America and watching Europe break up, there's never a better time for music.

01:42:18.240 Then he suddenly stops.

01:42:20.020 Quote, this is my last interview, he says quite solemnly.

01:42:23.740 I'm retiring from the business.

01:42:25.520 I've made the perfect record and now I can leave at the very top.

01:42:28.660 End quote.

01:42:29.760 Somehow, though, the writer says, I don't think he really means it.

01:42:34.000 And it's unbelievable because, you know, it was put all over the media as if he was retiring.

01:42:39.740 Well, he said it was his last interview.

01:42:41.580 He's got other interviews scheduled.

01:42:43.220 All right.

01:42:43.660 Like he's had a whole press tour for this album. 0.85

01:42:46.040 It's just silly.

01:42:46.980 And most important thing, though, is looking at that and saying that is really the type of thing that changes your perspective completely.

01:42:54.040 Right. 0.98

01:42:54.380 You go through something like that and you stop and you examine all the nonsensical idiocy that you participate in every day. 0.98

01:43:01.680 Uh, and you can reprioritize. 0.79

01:43:04.480 You don't want to have to go through that to do it, but sometimes it's the only thing that makes you kind of reprioritize the things you're doing in your life.

01:43:10.960 Uh, and he seems to have, I mean, he, he is making $35 million a year if he's out there, uh, touring and stuff.

01:43:18.560 And he's able to walk away from that, um, because he just wants to spend time with his son.

01:43:23.680 How many times do we hear those excuses?

01:43:25.540 Um, so quitting to spend more time with my family.

01:43:28.660 That was completely real with this guy.

01:43:30.560 Yeah.

01:43:30.760 It's nice to see somebody who actually, you know, it's nice to see that he, he got through it and has made it into a good thing.

01:43:38.140 You know, I, I have, I have probably more respect for Michael Buble than any other professional that I have ever met in the entertainment industry because he has found a way to keep his feet on the ground.

01:43:56.520 And he was unafraid.

01:43:57.860 I mean, when everybody, when ever, when it was very popular to hate me, he didn't, I mean, it's always popular to hate you.

01:44:06.680 I know, but he, but he, and he was never taking a stand for me.

01:44:10.020 He just wouldn't, he just didn't understand.

01:44:12.740 And he's like, look, I'm, I'm not in politics.

01:44:14.780 I'm a Canadian.

01:44:15.960 Why do I care?

01:44:17.060 Leave me out of it.

01:44:17.840 Didn't he get a fight at a hockey game?

01:44:19.880 Yeah.

01:44:20.460 He said, the guy turned around and said, I can't believe you like Glenn Beck.

01:44:24.440 And he's like, I'm Canadian.

01:44:25.680 I don't vote.

01:44:26.580 What, what does it matter?

01:44:28.140 What does it matter to you?

01:44:29.520 And the guy threw a punch and he said, I threw punches back.

01:44:32.660 And he said, I got to do it.

01:44:33.980 I got to do a hockey fight.

01:44:35.880 Got to do a hockey fight.

01:44:38.540 I am so happy to hear that his family is, is doing better.

01:44:45.520 And his son has made this miraculous turn.

01:44:49.080 And Michael Buble, you've given enough.

01:44:53.880 If you want to give more, we will certainly take it.

01:44:57.860 But, uh, do what's right for you.

01:45:00.820 Do what's right for you.

01:45:02.860 And for your family.

01:45:05.080 And your real fans will be thrilled no matter what you decide.

01:45:10.760 I mean, unless it's leaving the music business, then we're pissed off.

01:45:18.820 Yeah.

01:45:20.560 By the way, his new album is out in a few weeks.

01:45:23.760 A couple of tracks on it have already been released and they're really good.

01:45:27.600 Really good.

01:45:28.420 Really, really good.

01:45:29.180 All right.

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01:45:46.780 I mean, I've heard, uh, obviously it was there when we were recording.

01:45:50.000 So I listened to it again this weekend with my wife and, uh, he is, I just think he's

01:45:55.440 wrong on this.

01:45:56.580 I mean, I, you know, how do you say this to a, to a father, even though I did, uh, that

01:46:00.260 lost his son to opioids.

01:46:01.440 Uh, cause he's saying there's no reason for any of these opioids.

01:46:05.080 We shouldn't have any of them.

01:46:06.820 Oxycontin, oxycodone, none of it should be available at all.

01:46:11.020 And, uh, I just think that's really, really wrong.

01:46:14.820 Uh, cause we have a lot of people.

01:46:17.420 Certainly understand the position he's coming from.

01:46:20.280 From his position.

01:46:21.780 Yes.

01:46:22.060 But I mean, look at Pat.

01:46:23.980 Pat, if he didn't have drugs, I don't know what drugs he's on, but if he didn't have drugs,

01:46:28.820 there are many heroin.

01:46:29.820 Yeah.

01:46:29.920 There are many days he wouldn't, he wouldn't make it to the middle of the street to meet

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01:46:36.400 He wouldn't be able to get out of bed.

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01:47:44.120 Glenn Beck.

01:47:45.800 We go to Shane in Texas.

01:47:48.040 Hello, Shane.

01:47:48.600 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:47:49.700 Hey, thanks for taking my call.

01:47:52.380 Um, uh, yeah, I'm from Texas, but I went to Portland to visit my mom this summer and I

01:47:56.260 brought my young children and downtown Portland used to be, you know, beautiful and fun. 0.83

01:48:01.020 And now it's oppressive, unsafe, smells like pee and poo.

01:48:06.340 And like if I park at the wrong place and don't pay the meter, I get a ticket and I could,

01:48:11.000 you know, presumably if I don't pay, I get a warrant, go to jail, but you can camp out,

01:48:15.560 shoot, you know, drugs and smoke crack on the sidewalk, which people are doing. 0.66

01:48:20.700 And, um, go ahead and pee and poop right there. 0.98

01:48:22.900 And you're good.

01:48:23.420 You're good to go.

01:48:24.580 Uh, and I felt very unsafe with, with little ones there.

01:48:29.740 It's, it's not a place I'm going to be going back to.

01:48:33.460 Portland used to be a beautiful city, just a beautiful city.

01:48:38.340 What do, what does, what does your mom say about it?

01:48:41.560 Well, well, they live across the river in Washington.

01:48:43.980 So they spoke with their feet.

01:48:45.540 Um, they live in, in Vancouver, Washington and, you know, we visited her probably 12

01:48:50.140 years ago and it was, it was not like this.

01:48:52.420 There was some crazy people, but now they're, and it's sad. 0.98

01:48:55.640 There's a lot of very unhinged, mentally unstable people. 0.97

01:48:59.120 Um, and also it's kind of like feeding the cats. 0.70

01:49:03.880 There's a lot of people bringing these, um, I guess you could say societal dropouts food.

01:49:09.720 So it's kind of like the Tim Leary, you know, tune in, turn on and drop out.

01:49:14.380 Uh, and people are supporting them.

01:49:16.660 So they're able to, you know, they don't have food, but they have, you know, a 40 to drink

01:49:21.840 and they have weed and they can just hang out and harass you and, and beg you for money

01:49:28.100 and get free stuff.

01:49:29.540 And, and man, my, uh, I used to live in Chicago, so I'm used to dangerous cities.

01:49:33.740 Uh, but this, this was a whole other level of, of, of danger.

01:49:37.380 I will not be taking children there again.

01:49:40.340 Thank you very much, Shane.

01:49:41.420 I appreciate it best to your, uh, best to your, uh, your mom.

01:49:45.760 Um, all right, coming up five o'clock today, we begin a series on our UNAM, the Declaration

01:49:51.900 of Independence.

01:49:53.360 Uh, it is a really important, uh, series things we have to learn things we must know because

01:50:01.180 they're not being taught elsewhere.

01:50:02.880 Get your family, watch it five o'clock on the blaze today.

01:50:06.380 It's a week long series.

01:50:07.980 The Declaration of Independence.

01:50:09.620 Glenn back.

01:50:10.740 Mercury.

01:50:11.840 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - October 15, 2018

'Look Around, and Count Your Blessings' - 10⧸15⧸18

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