The Glenn Beck Program - Madness Or Miracles ｜ Guests： Bill Whittle, Jamie Kilstein & David Steinberg ｜ 7⧸18⧸19

00:00:00.000 And now here's Glenn and Stu with the start of our show.

00:00:02.220 Good morning, gentlemen.

00:00:04.280 Good morning.

00:00:05.860 Thank you so much.

00:00:07.140 We've got a great program lined up for you today.

00:00:09.820 A lot of things to cover.

00:00:11.860 And some really, really interesting people that we want to introduce you to.

00:00:17.460 First, let me tell you about our cruise.

00:00:19.260 We have this cruise through history that we've been putting together.

00:00:22.600 I have a feeling it is going to grow bigger and bigger and bigger.

00:00:25.960 I keep getting phone calls now from people who you would know that are saying, hey, you're doing this cruise and these guys are all coming and I want to come, too.

00:00:36.700 I think it's going to be turned into just a big love fest here with some really cool people already committed to coming is Tim Ballard, David Barton, myself, Stu, Bill O'Reilly.

00:00:51.800 I've heard I don't have a commitment from him.

00:00:54.080 Jim Caviezel may be coming.

00:00:56.440 We're going to show the new Jim Caviezel movie on board.

00:01:00.200 We've got nightly shows we're going to be doing.

00:01:02.640 It's amazing.

00:01:03.680 And we're going to be in the Mediterranean.

00:01:05.340 We're going to go to the Middle East. 0.60

00:01:07.600 We're going to go to Israel.

00:01:08.920 We're going to see Venice.

00:01:10.360 We're going to Athens.

00:01:12.300 The Mercury Museum is going to have a whole bunch of items every night.

00:01:16.580 I'll be releasing new items that you'll be able to see.

00:01:19.000 I mean, it's really going to be fun.

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00:01:32.940 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:01:36.680 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:38.480 Yesterday, while we were talking about the squad, while the world was paying attention to send

00:01:48.180 them back, while we were having this ridiculous argument, the world shifted under our feet.

00:01:57.240 Something that I have been looking for since about 1995.

00:02:03.020 Something that I have talked extensively about and have been warning about happened yesterday.

00:02:14.460 And you might have seen a story about it, but probably didn't click on it because you don't

00:02:21.100 have the context of what it really means.

00:02:23.660 Perhaps the biggest thing in all of human history was announced yesterday.

00:02:31.820 And we'll tell you about it in 60 seconds.

00:02:37.860 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:40.200 According to studies, over 10% of break-ins are planned beforehand.

00:02:44.560 Most of them are spur of the moment.

00:02:45.740 Somebody's, you know, walking around thinking about breaking into some place and then they

00:02:49.520 just come up to your house.

00:02:50.800 They see if you have an alarm and if it's on.

00:02:53.480 If it is, they go to the next house.

00:02:55.820 Now, it's one in five homes that has home security.

00:02:59.880 How many of those out of the one in five turn it on every time?

00:03:05.700 Especially during the day when you leave.

00:03:07.680 That's really when break-ins happen during the day.

00:03:10.120 Not necessarily at night.

00:03:11.300 They don't want to see you.

00:03:12.420 You don't want to see them.

00:03:13.600 So, it's kind of a mutual, you know, a mutual despise of each other.

00:03:21.700 We both kind of despise each other.

00:03:23.700 I don't really want to see you.

00:03:25.760 So, here's the thing.

00:03:27.420 If you have a home security device and it is on, you are much more likely to never have

00:03:34.980 a break-in.

00:03:36.240 So, here's what you need to do.

00:03:37.740 So, the used car salesman of the car alarm, I mean, of the home security, those days are

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00:04:32.600 So, I have been following something for two reasons.

00:04:48.300 One is personal, and the other is because I am a freak about new technology.

00:04:57.280 I am fascinated by new technology and the brave new world.

00:05:01.700 It is both terrifying and exhilarating.

00:05:09.080 Man will be either more free than he has ever been at any time in human history,

00:05:17.580 or, I used to say, the biggest slave in human history, but he may wipe himself out.

00:05:25.900 I've been fascinated by what is called AI, AGI, and ASI.

00:05:35.980 AI, we already have.

00:05:37.680 Artificial intelligence.

00:05:38.940 We already have it.

00:05:41.100 AGI is artificial general intelligence.

00:05:44.680 We are a general intelligence being.

00:05:48.700 We have general intelligence about a lot of different things.

00:05:53.820 Artificial intelligence is really only one thing.

00:05:57.580 So, Watson can play, what is it, Big Blue can play chess.

00:06:03.200 Watson can do trivia on Jeopardy.

00:06:06.980 I think that's the way they work.

00:06:08.860 They can't do the opposite.

00:06:10.160 So, if it's Watson that can answer all of the trivia questions, it cannot also play chess.

00:06:17.000 It's AI.

00:06:18.700 Artificial intelligence on chess or artificial intelligence on trivia.

00:06:24.620 Artificial general intelligence will be able to do both and many other things as well,

00:06:29.640 just like you can, except they master it.

00:06:33.460 They'll be the best at it.

00:06:35.040 When that happens, you start to approach what's called the singularity, which is a time when

00:06:41.340 the machine, you won't be able to tell the machine from a man.

00:06:46.500 You will cross a Rubicon of what is life.

00:06:52.680 And they don't know how long it will take to go from AGI to ASI.

00:07:00.160 And ASI is super intelligence.

00:07:02.780 We will not be, we will be flies in comparison to ASI.

00:07:08.540 So, this is the thing that Bill Gates has warned about, Stephen Hawking has warned about,

00:07:14.460 Elon Musk is warning about, is this AGI, ASI conundrum, that if we hit it, and we hit the

00:07:22.920 point of singularity, we don't know if it's going to be benevolent.

00:07:27.840 Now, the other reason why I have been fascinated by this is because I have a daughter who was born

00:07:34.520 with cerebral palsy.

00:07:36.020 On the flip side of AGI and ASI is miracles, miracles, things that you never would think

00:07:46.000 are possible.

00:07:47.780 For instance, you want to learn French?

00:07:50.200 Okay, just download it into your brain.

00:07:54.240 You want to repair the actual brain pathways in your head after a stroke?

00:08:05.960 Not a problem.

00:08:07.960 We'll just insert some, you know, some sort of electrode into your head and it will repair

00:08:14.320 the brain.

00:08:14.900 It will just build bridges to repair that pathway so you won't be affected.

00:08:20.240 I mean, the things that are on the horizon are amazing.

00:08:23.680 Most people have said this can't be done.

00:08:27.000 My daughter has been going through about a year of testing to see if she can have brain 1.00

00:08:33.900 surgery because she had several strokes when she was born and she has both sides of her

00:08:42.460 brain affected, but now she is having epileptic seizures.

00:08:48.620 She's been having them for, she had them when she was a kid and then when she turned about

00:08:52.580 18, she started having them again and she's, you know, now 30 and it has totally disrupted

00:08:59.860 her life and she can't drive.

00:09:02.300 She can't do a lot of things because you never know if she's going to have a seizure and they're 1.00

00:09:06.580 they're hard to watch.

00:09:10.180 So we've been looking into this technology where they can actually implant electrodes

00:09:16.020 into your brain.

00:09:17.620 She's tried every kind of medicine. 0.86

00:09:18.940 It doesn't work, but it is, it is amazing what modern medicine can do.

00:09:25.280 And she's at the final testing point now to find out if they can actually implant these

00:09:32.420 like these, these little, and I'm sorry for anybody who actually knows, you know, all the

00:09:36.760 scientific, you know, jargon around this for butchering this so badly, but they can put

00:09:42.460 like little probes, little bars, little, little, little strands into your head and thread

00:09:52.900 that through all your capillaries and thread that all into exactly the right place.

00:09:58.720 They map the brain in 3D digital and then they have to put it right in the right place.

00:10:05.500 And then that sends out a signal and it, it maps the brain wave, if you will.

00:10:12.460 And when it starts to see the tremors start, it sends out like a pacemaker, a signal to stop

00:10:19.320 that and to regulate it.

00:10:21.000 It's amazing.

00:10:22.820 Well, Elon Musk has just announced something that makes that look like child's play.

00:10:31.980 He is, he, he just, uh, announced with neuroscientists at his side, something that is called Neuralink.

00:10:43.940 Now he says at the beginning of his, uh, of his talk that he's doing this because he believes

00:10:53.080 and so does DARPA that no one is working on benevolent AI.

00:10:58.040 They're all just trying to get to AGI first because whoever gets to AGI first is going to

00:11:03.860 rule the world.

00:11:04.580 But he has been warning and others have been warning and DARPA is been warning and working

00:11:11.220 on benevolent AGI.

00:11:14.220 We need to make sure that whatever it is we're creating doesn't look at us like rodents and

00:11:20.000 decides to exterminate us.

00:11:24.240 We won't be able to understand it because it will be thinking so fast.

00:11:29.760 So what he's been trying to do is how do we bond with AGI?

00:11:38.440 How do we fuse?

00:11:40.380 This is transhumanism.

00:11:41.820 There's another thing that, that, uh, Stephen Hawking warned about and was misunderstood by

00:11:48.180 the end of his life, where he said there won't be any homo sapiens left by 2050.

00:11:52.820 What he was talking about is humans as we know it will be over because we will be so augmented 0.99

00:11:58.140 with technology that you won't be able to survive if you're just a natural human.

00:12:03.340 So he introduces the neural link.

00:12:07.720 And again, his goal is to, is to be able to interface with AI so we are not left behind.

00:12:17.680 But what the first phase is, is an upgrade of what my daughter has been going through.

00:12:24.160 And what he introduced was 10,000 times better than the latest technology, 10,000 times.

00:12:38.500 He says that it will be ready for humans in a year.

00:12:42.700 And it is, it's what's amazing is it's like a sewing machine.

00:12:47.580 It has to be done by a robot because the probes are the size of a human hair and they have

00:12:55.160 to be threaded in between everything and put exactly into the right place of the brain.

00:13:01.320 And he has built this machine that is a robotic, looks like a robotic sewing machine and it

00:13:07.840 implants these.

00:13:08.960 But so, you know, this surgery is a really delicate thing to do today.

00:13:18.380 He believes, and he says that this machine will do it within a year.

00:13:23.280 And he showed the machine, it will be like LASIK surgery.

00:13:28.680 You'll be able to go in and have these implants put into your head in an hour and then walk out.

00:13:36.520 Now that's phase one.

00:13:39.120 Phase two is to help people walk, remember, do different things that for some reason,

00:13:46.680 whether it's a stroke or Alzheimer's or whatever, it will repair the brain.

00:13:52.300 It will not repair the brain.

00:13:53.600 It will just be the bridge.

00:13:55.660 For instance, it will record.

00:13:58.060 So if you're driving to work every day, you see certain things and that helps you remember

00:14:02.900 where you are.

00:14:03.860 So it will record all of those things that you're seeing.

00:14:08.320 And when you are lost and you can't figure out, it automatically pushes those things out.

00:14:15.460 Now, this is remarkable.

00:14:17.360 You can't move your arm.

00:14:19.560 You can't move your leg.

00:14:20.820 It will push you and it will remap the brain for anything that is broken.

00:14:28.500 Phase three, which he says is around the corner.

00:14:33.980 Phase three is a neural link.

00:14:37.600 You want to learn how to speak Russian?

00:14:41.120 Download it.

00:14:42.320 And you don't have to go get chips or anything else.

00:14:44.960 You will think it and Google Translate or whatever the translate system is that's online

00:14:54.000 will be a part of you.

00:14:56.800 So you'll be able to understand.

00:14:59.000 You'll be able to read.

00:15:00.000 You'll be able to speak.

00:15:01.560 You want to learn something?

00:15:03.440 It will just be downloaded into you.

00:15:07.120 More importantly, it will record all of the things that you have done.

00:15:13.400 It will map your brain and it will be a two-way street.

00:15:19.460 So you want to send messages.

00:15:22.360 You want to whatever.

00:15:23.380 You will be able to think it and it will be done because you will be part of the Internet.

00:15:30.640 Now, the real problem with this is who's controlling this?

00:15:38.160 Because you won't be able to compete.

00:15:40.660 For instance, let's say we go to socialized medicine.

00:15:44.640 This technology will continue.

00:15:47.240 But if we have socialized medicine, this, I guarantee you, will only be done by the rich.

00:15:52.700 If it's only been done by the rich at the very beginning, are those people that are uplinked,

00:15:58.700 you're not going to be able to compete with them.

00:16:02.300 What do they do with this until all of us get it?

00:16:06.920 And if all of us get it, who's controlling it?

00:16:10.940 And can they just shut you off?

00:16:13.500 They don't like your you're becoming dangerous.

00:16:16.060 You are saying the wrong things.

00:16:18.440 So we're going to deperson you.

00:16:20.720 We're already seeing this happen with tech.

00:16:22.840 Now they're building ghettos. 0.91

00:16:24.440 But if everyone is super, super, super smart and they can just cut you off from that and turn your system off and you become a monkey.

00:16:38.820 What.

00:16:39.460 What is coming our way?

00:16:43.720 Both miracles and madness.

00:16:49.380 I believe in miracles.

00:16:51.560 I believe the best is in front of us, but not if we continue to act like monkeys.

00:17:00.560 You can read all about this.

00:17:07.520 Elon Musk tested his brain microchip on monkeys.

00:17:12.240 It enabled one to control a computer with its mind.

00:17:16.320 We're already seeing this.

00:17:19.420 You'll see people who say this is doomed to fail.

00:17:23.040 I don't believe they're accurate.

00:17:25.420 And neither did Stephen Hawking.

00:17:27.580 Neither does Bill Gates.

00:17:28.900 Neither does Elon Musk.

00:17:30.560 And a lot of others.

00:17:32.960 This has been on the horizon for a while.

00:17:35.580 And this is what people are doing now.

00:17:39.600 Because they truly believe this is the future.

00:17:44.240 Madness or miracles.

00:17:46.360 I have a couple of other updates for you on technology that I want to get out of the way while we're here.

00:17:53.280 But I'll do that in one minute.

00:17:54.640 Back in the saddle in the X chair.

00:18:01.600 I think it was yesterday at this time, I adjusted the back of my chair on air, and Stu looked at me like, what are you doing?

00:18:11.320 And I think I understood what you were doing.

00:18:13.540 I know, but you were just adjusted it like that.

00:18:15.320 You were like, whoa, you can do that?

00:18:17.220 I could see it in your face.

00:18:18.560 Yeah, I started playing with it a little bit.

00:18:20.300 Because when it came, basically, I guess with the factory settings, it was great.

00:18:24.420 So I never really played with it and adjusted it all that much.

00:18:26.780 And the key is, on the X chair, is it has 10 different adjustments.

00:18:30.940 Yeah.

00:18:31.520 So I told Stu, we got off the air after that break, and I said, have you moved the seat?

00:18:36.960 And he's like, no, that was cool, too.

00:18:38.380 Right.

00:18:39.180 Right.

00:18:39.500 Yeah, you can move the seat, like, kind of, I don't know, you'd think of it going up and down, but it goes in and out.

00:18:43.820 Yeah.

00:18:44.520 So it gives you, it's more seat underneath your legs or less seat underneath your legs.

00:18:49.740 And so when you position it, for you, it's a totally different feel.

00:18:54.740 Right, because when you have the more seat, it helps you lean back a little bit better, which gets the back support, lumbar support.

00:19:01.380 I don't know any of the technical terms.

00:19:02.540 I can just know that it's very comfortable.

00:19:03.980 It's really a great chair.

00:19:05.600 I mean, Stu really was thinking this was a great chair before he even adjusted it from the factory settings.

00:19:13.260 That's how good of a chair this is.

00:19:15.240 Even for idiots, it's a good chair.

00:19:17.020 No, it's just, it's an amazing chair.

00:19:19.300 I really thought, because I know Stu has been sincere about how much he loves the chair.

00:19:26.460 I'm blown away that he hadn't even adjusted it yet.

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00:19:54.240 Hey, I have some other good news.

00:20:08.200 I have some other good news for you on the technology front.

00:20:14.800 It's now happening in Sweden.

00:20:19.800 They are implanting microchips under their skin.

00:20:23.180 Little angel, don't be scared.

00:20:25.520 It's not the mark of the beast.

00:20:27.480 I want you to know this is definitely not the mark of the beast.

00:20:31.780 More than 4,000 people in Sweden have had the chips about the size of a grain of rice inserted into their hands.

00:20:42.400 I believe that's exactly where the Bible says it's either in your hand or your forehead.

00:20:49.800 So, about 4,000 people have inserted this into their hands with pioneers predicting millions will soon join them or else.

00:20:59.880 It's like a glorified smartwatch.

00:21:04.380 It helps the Swedes monitor their health and replace key cards, allow them to enter office buildings.

00:21:11.880 Oh, that's so convenient.

00:21:13.720 Who wouldn't want that? 0.71

00:21:15.160 You go to the snack, you know, the snack deal.

00:21:17.740 You never have to look for quarters of dollars.

00:21:19.660 Wow.

00:21:19.980 So, you get, like, all the Funyuns you want without bringing change? 0.95

00:21:24.160 Yeah.

00:21:24.760 This is a dream come true.

00:21:26.520 You no longer have to have a credit card, even.

00:21:29.300 You just walk in and it just, it takes your number.

00:21:33.600 Here's the best thing about it.

00:21:35.060 It's new technology that no one ever predicted before.

00:21:38.320 Right.

00:21:38.680 It's like, well, this is something that's never been written about.

00:21:41.880 Well, it kind of.

00:21:42.800 It's never been discussed before.

00:21:43.820 A little bit.

00:21:44.840 It has been.

00:21:45.900 Yeah, it's definitely not the mark of the beast.

00:21:52.160 Yeah, this is crazy.

00:21:54.940 So, the other thing that is happening is, what is it, Libra?

00:21:58.960 Yeah, the, it's not really a cryptocurrency, but no, it's not.

00:22:03.000 The kind of cryptocurrency that Facebook is talking about.

00:22:05.800 Okay, so somebody is going to do this.

00:22:07.760 Now, imagine if you have Libra and Facebook will not say one way or another what they're 0.60

00:22:13.780 planning on doing about this.

00:22:15.900 Let's say you have Libra, okay?

00:22:18.200 And Libra becomes the currency.

00:22:20.440 Let's say it's especially like on Amazon, okay?

00:22:23.260 And in the future, we're all going to be buying everything probably from something like Amazon,

00:22:27.400 if not Amazon.

00:22:29.080 But they have their own currency.

00:22:31.200 And you've been depersoned because of your opinion or things that you've posted.

00:22:38.660 Can you buy anything with Libra?

00:22:41.120 I saw this episode of Black Mirror.

00:22:43.100 You're right.

00:22:44.060 Yes, I remember.

00:22:45.040 Exactly right.

00:22:45.900 Exactly right.

00:22:47.240 It's here, America.

00:22:49.280 It's here.

00:22:52.360 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

00:22:55.200 You really do need to write an episode of that show?

00:22:57.360 I have.

00:22:58.720 I just have to get it to them.

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00:25:21.220 Welcome to the program.

00:25:22.720 We have Bill Whittle on to talk a little bit about what we saw, the Apollo 11 documentary.

00:25:28.520 It is an amazing documentary.

00:25:30.700 The, what is it, the 50th anniversary is this Saturday.

00:25:38.000 And he's done this great documentary on just the last, I think, 30 seconds of man going to the moon right before they land.

00:25:46.700 It was harrowing, and we'll talk to him about that.

00:25:50.240 And, of course, the patriarchy and the white patriarchy, to be specific, how could we possibly celebrate something that was done mainly by white men?

00:25:58.500 Good question.

00:25:59.520 Really good question.

00:25:59.980 That is the question being asked.

00:26:01.800 We'll get into that in just a second.

00:26:04.500 Also, I wanted to talk to you.

00:26:06.380 Pat, I heard you on your podcast today talking about Peter Thiel and saying Google needs to be investigated for treason.

00:26:14.160 It's pretty chilling.

00:26:15.160 It's pretty chilling.

00:26:17.680 If you, do we have that clip?

00:26:21.080 Can we?

00:26:21.800 Yeah, okay.

00:26:22.260 So, listen to this.

00:26:23.520 He's being, I think this is Peter Thiel on Tucker Carlson.

00:26:28.640 And then the weird fact that's indisputable is that Google is working with communist China, but not with the U.S. military on its breakthrough AI technology.

00:26:37.240 Why is that?

00:26:37.600 Well, that's the question.

00:26:39.000 I think one explanation is they figure they have to because if they don't give it to them through the front door, it'll get stolen through the back door.

00:26:46.320 So, first answer is they have to.

00:26:48.060 And then I think, of course, there's probably a broad base of Google employees that are ideologically super left-wing, sort of woke, and think that China is better than the U.S.

00:26:57.540 or that the U.S. is worse than China.

00:26:59.720 It's always, it's always more, it's more anti-American than anything.

00:27:02.580 But this is by definition a threat to American national security, as you point out.

00:27:06.180 So, if Sundar Pichai was sitting right here, what would you say to him?

00:27:09.340 Well, I would say, answer my three questions.

00:27:12.300 How many foreign intelligence agencies have infiltrated Google?

00:27:15.560 Have the Chinese in particular infiltrated?

00:27:18.420 And why are you working with communist China and not the U.S.?

00:27:22.760 That's amazing stuff.

00:27:23.880 Why do you think, the questions you raise, and this is not in any way to minimize their importance, are kind of obvious questions.

00:27:31.600 Why hasn't the U.S. government ascertained the answers?

00:27:36.120 Well, it's possible that there are people in the U.S. government looking into it and they haven't told us.

00:27:40.680 Hope so.

00:27:40.960 But, yeah, I think the FBI and CIA would be the natural places to look into it.

00:27:45.560 The FBI would look at it from the domestic side.

00:27:47.840 The CIA would look at it from the outside in.

00:27:50.840 And, you know, we have to try to look at seeing from the outside.

00:27:53.260 There are people, you know, controlling people inside Google.

00:27:55.800 I'd like to interview Peter Thiel.

00:27:57.820 In fact, put him on the list, see if we can get an interview with him.

00:28:00.400 I'd like to interview him because he's also smart enough to know, and I wonder why he's left this one out.

00:28:06.900 Google, when Google says, did you hear what he said they are sharing?

00:28:10.960 And what they are collaborating on.

00:28:13.000 Their AI technology.

00:28:15.140 Okay.

00:28:15.640 The AI technology.

00:28:17.100 The reason why he's called this treasonous is because whoever gets AGI first will rule the world.

00:28:25.100 Okay.

00:28:25.660 But did he, so they're, they're working on their, they're, they're sharing their AI technology.

00:28:32.800 Well, Google has another reason for doing it is as everybody thinks Google is so great because they give me the answers for free.

00:28:40.740 No, they are mapping the way humans think.

00:28:46.200 That's why this is the largest intel gathering on humans in all of human history.

00:28:54.560 And what they're doing is they're, they're, the reason why that algorithm is so good, so much better is they have all of these people, billions of people on earth feeding it information.

00:29:08.000 So the algorithm gets better and better because it's thinking more and more like a human.

00:29:13.980 And so it can predict you.

00:29:16.160 So China is looking at this and saying, how many billions of people do they have?

00:29:20.900 I want them putting all of that input into us so we can map more humans and the way humans think.

00:29:28.280 They're just looking at this as I need that because it will turbo us in AI.

00:29:35.680 But at the same time, he's right.

00:29:38.420 These people do believe that China is better than America.

00:29:42.760 They do believe that.

00:29:44.700 They don't believe that we have, that we're good, that we have good intent.

00:29:48.800 I mean, I cannot believe the, the company that started with, you know, don't be evil, strangely decides to change that as they go to work with China. 0.76

00:30:01.520 It's crazy.

00:30:02.940 It, it's, it's, uh, you know, humans first in the first place, us developing AI technology like this is a little bit like sheep developing wolves because you're just going to come back to eat us.

00:30:17.720 It really is.

00:30:19.160 It really is.

00:30:19.840 What are you, what are you doing?

00:30:21.380 You're, we're creating our own destruction.

00:30:23.320 Potentially.

00:30:23.860 There's a story I just read this morning that that was the headline.

00:30:26.840 We're creating, uh, our own destruction.

00:30:30.940 Uh, I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was almost what you just said.

00:30:34.280 There's two other things, two other stories that are out, uh, today in England.

00:30:38.800 The BBC was asking, could algorithms help prevent hate crimes and murders?

00:30:44.580 Well, sure they could.

00:30:46.620 Wouldn't that be great?

00:30:47.880 Well, this whole story is talking about, it's a turning point, you know, from a data perspective that we now have enough data to where we can predict hate crimes.

00:30:58.000 Wow.

00:30:58.320 Uh, there's another story, uh, artificial intelligence is becoming transformative technology and impacting many aspects of our lives through augmentation of processes and tasks that normally require human intelligence, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:31:14.100 However, AI technology is now ready to solve some of the most complex and, uh, and, uh, pressing business problems and law enforcement has now turned to AI as a tool to execute on the multifaceted mission of modern day policing.

00:31:29.580 However, for all the potential that AI possesses for law enforcement, we're still at the early stages of achieving a fully viable and legally permissible option to meet law enforcement needs.

00:31:39.740 They now believe that the truth meter, because of what we can do with eyes, will now be able to tell if people are telling the truth or not.

00:31:50.060 Isn't this great?

00:31:51.480 How close are we getting to minority report?

00:31:53.620 And tell me that we wouldn't adopt it.

00:31:56.240 I think we would.

00:31:57.540 We would.

00:31:57.900 I think we would.

00:31:58.540 We would.

00:31:59.460 Well, you were going to do it.

00:32:01.060 So.

00:32:01.900 You were thinking about it.

00:32:02.960 We're just making sure it doesn't happen.

00:32:04.600 Right.

00:32:05.180 Don't we want to live in a world where there's no murder?

00:32:07.580 Computer says 99.9997% that you were going to do this today.

00:32:12.320 Yeah.

00:32:12.580 We can't, we can't allow you to be out on the street because you will do it.

00:32:17.900 Yeah.

00:32:18.320 I mean, if it seems like you wouldn't go for that, but I mean, think about just the progress in DNA.

00:32:23.420 I was like, I did, was doing something on the OJ trial a few months ago when that was going on.

00:32:27.800 And then like, there's some anniversary thing.

00:32:29.640 And it's like, at that time, one of the big reasons OJ got off is because people didn't trust DNA.

00:32:35.000 They didn't know what it was.

00:32:35.880 It was like, you know, now DNA comes out on a 40 year old cold case.

00:32:41.500 And we're all a hundred percent sure the person did it.

00:32:44.540 And like, I believe the DNA science and everything.

00:32:48.200 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not trying to be skeptical on that, but we have just completely gone along with that.

00:32:54.900 And we just assume it's real.

00:32:56.740 Right.

00:32:57.400 So, I mean, imagine a computer that's telling you the same thing about a future crime right now.

00:33:02.220 That seems completely ridiculous that you'd believe it.

00:33:04.740 But when it's right, you know, enough times, we're just going to go step back and say, wow, yeah, that person is, Pat is going to murder that person.

00:33:11.180 Well, you know what, it doesn't, you're not even going to, you're not even going to DNA because DNA is physical evidence that that person was there.

00:33:21.580 Okay.

00:33:22.100 So there's physical evidence that links that person to a crime.

00:33:26.100 Yes.

00:33:26.520 It's just something that the average person doesn't actually understand.

00:33:30.180 Correct.

00:33:30.480 We can't fact check the scientists on it.

00:33:33.100 Or the government.

00:33:34.180 That's the demon haunted world that the Carl Sagan talked about, that you, if you don't understand the technology used, it's going to control you.

00:33:42.980 Yep.

00:33:43.300 Okay.

00:33:43.860 I think this is more akin, however, to Google.

00:33:47.980 Right now, we just do a Google search.

00:33:50.540 And if it's good, if you get it on Google and that's the answer, that's the answer.

00:33:56.080 You don't question it.

00:33:57.700 So that's my answer.

00:33:59.160 It's settled science.

00:34:00.460 So they can, they, and we know they're doing this.

00:34:03.860 They can arrange the answers any way that they want so they can push the answer that they, anything that's in contention, they can push what their favorite answer is to the top, knowing that 99% of the people are just going to go to that first one or the first five and say, okay, yeah, that's the answer.

00:34:25.480 So this is, this is the possibility.

00:34:30.140 You haven't, you haven't done it.

00:34:33.120 So do you have free will?

00:34:36.460 Do we accept that you are going to do this because you've gotten to the point to where you're planning it, but there is no redemption for you?

00:34:45.420 There's no last minute.

00:34:48.020 No, I'm not.

00:34:48.500 I can't.

00:34:49.660 This is the argument of the guys that would show up with, uh, uh, on, uh, the, uh, the show.

00:34:56.120 Oh, what the heck?

00:34:56.680 Chris, uh, Chris, uh, Hanson.

00:34:59.260 Remember Chris Hanson's show?

00:35:00.480 Yeah.

00:35:00.780 The pedophile show?

00:35:01.580 Oh, yeah.

00:35:01.760 Where he'd like, you know, there'd be these guys and they'd be like chatting with these girls they think are underage.

00:35:06.300 They'd go and buy alcohol.

00:35:08.200 They'd, they'd show up at the house.

00:35:10.440 They'd walk in and then there's Chris Hanson with his cookies.

00:35:13.560 Yeah.

00:35:13.820 And he's like, Hey, have a, have an Oreo by the way.

00:35:16.400 What kind of molestation we're going to do here today?

00:35:18.640 And it was all wonderful entertainment.

00:35:20.120 And I, gosh, why don't they bring that show back?

00:35:22.200 But beyond that, these guys all got into court and said, look, I was going down a bad road.

00:35:28.480 However, I was never going to actually do it.

00:35:30.840 I, I, I should, I shouldn't even have gone there.

00:35:32.900 You're right.

00:35:33.480 But I was never going to pull the trigger.

00:35:34.800 And I, I committed no crime.

00:35:36.720 This is a person who's not underage.

00:35:38.640 Yeah.

00:35:38.940 Right.

00:35:39.280 This is a person.

00:35:40.180 And now when I got there, I was never going to do it.

00:35:43.240 I just was, I don't know, trying a fantasy out.

00:35:45.700 I mean, the cannibal cop guy, do you remember the story from, I think a year or two ago?

00:35:49.440 Uh, you know, he legitimately fantasized about killing women and eating them.

00:35:55.360 Um, however, he never took step one to actually do any of these things.

00:36:01.400 And when they, they looked into the details of what he, uh, you know, cause there were some

00:36:06.560 rumors initially that he had used police, uh, you know, uh, computers to search for women

00:36:11.680 that he actually knew and all that wound up being thrown out.

00:36:14.680 It wasn't even true.

00:36:15.620 And the bottom line was, you know, he was a really creepy guy, but he never did any of

00:36:20.640 those things.

00:36:21.100 Nor did he, nor did he take a step to even try to do it and wound up getting completely

00:36:26.220 dismissed.

00:36:27.000 The case is completely dismissed, but obviously his life is destroyed.

00:36:29.600 And so far there's no law against being creepy.

00:36:31.620 Yeah.

00:36:32.020 And here's the thing, for instance, let's take the Jesse Smollett.

00:36:36.160 Okay.

00:36:36.680 Mm-hmm.

00:36:36.940 AI could, could figure out that he's going to create, he's going to create a bogus hate

00:36:43.160 crime.

00:36:43.960 Well, that's not enough for me.

00:36:46.080 That's not enough for me.

00:36:47.700 However, I can, if AI is, is just everywhere.

00:36:55.580 Okay.

00:36:56.060 He's thinking about it.

00:36:57.160 He's talking to these guys.

00:36:58.480 They just went in, bought the rope.

00:37:00.120 Now they're going here and he's coming out.

00:37:03.260 Good.

00:37:03.740 Now have a police car there or somebody and see the actual transgression, you know what

00:37:10.760 I mean?

00:37:11.080 And get the transgression down. 0.81

00:37:14.320 If it's, if it is, somebody is going to be killed, just have somebody there to stop it

00:37:20.340 right at the last minute.

00:37:21.440 But where is that line?

00:37:23.500 Where is it?

00:37:24.320 They were going to go kill somebody.

00:37:26.000 They were going to, they were going to take them up into the woods.

00:37:28.740 Well, do we have to be at the woods or do we get them, you know, on, you know,

00:37:33.740 day number one of the car drive?

00:37:35.900 Where is the line?

00:37:38.760 Yeah.

00:37:39.000 And where is, where is, uh, uh, human free will?

00:37:46.020 Do we have free will?

00:37:47.660 See, this is going to be the other thing is we're going to be fed so many different things

00:37:55.060 through algorithms like they're doing now.

00:37:58.220 They'll be able to predict our perfect purchases that they'll be able to send these things before

00:38:04.500 we want them.

00:38:05.720 So are we, do we really want them or are we, it's the chicken and the egg.

00:38:12.560 Does man actually have free will in the coming years?

00:38:17.660 This is, you know, but don't worry about that.

00:38:21.200 Let's just, let's just figure out if the president is a racist or not.

00:38:25.240 That's probably much more important.

00:38:26.920 Maybe we can know in advance now.

00:38:28.620 Yeah.

00:38:28.980 We can just know, like we can look at him in the eyes.

00:38:30.940 Maybe his pulsing, you know, pupils will tell us something about his future racism.

00:38:34.760 And we stop him before he tweets again.

00:38:37.280 Oh, it doesn't sound like Google.

00:38:39.700 That sounds exactly like what Google is saying right now.

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00:40:02.980 Welcome to the program.

00:40:04.580 We're so glad that you're here.

00:40:07.820 Bill Whittle is coming up in just a second.

00:40:10.440 Bill is the host of Apollo 11, What We Saw.

00:40:14.640 It's a new documentary that is out.

00:40:17.340 His website is billwhittle.com.

00:40:19.040 This is fascinating.

00:40:20.860 I watched the first episode or two, and it's all on the last, I can't remember, minute or however many seconds.

00:40:31.440 And what happened as they were landing on the moon is stunning, stunning.

00:40:40.060 Tomorrow, I'm going to share the speech that was written for Nixon because they thought that there was a chance that they would be stranded on the moon and they would never be able to get off.

00:40:53.580 And Michael Collins was circling the moon thinking, I'm going to be going home alone.

00:41:01.440 It's an amazing story that we really have forgotten or didn't even think about at the time.

00:41:08.360 Bill Whittle is going to be joining us, and he's going to be talking about the white patriarchy that went to the moon.

00:41:14.120 So, a big deal.

00:41:15.020 So, white guys went to the moon.

00:41:16.500 Just show their dominance.

00:41:17.840 Is that what it is?

00:41:19.200 How come there's been no women? 0.99

00:41:21.340 How come there's been no women of color on the moon? 1.00

00:41:23.980 Well, you know, when I hear of a black astronaut, I want them to have a black voice.

00:41:31.300 You know what I mean?

00:41:31.880 And it wouldn't be racist to say that if I said, you know, if you're going to be white and a white astronaut, you better be one with a white voice. 0.66

00:41:42.060 Okay?

00:41:42.740 Just want to make sure.

00:41:43.760 That's not problematic at all.

00:41:44.100 No, it's not problematic.

00:41:44.980 No, no, no, no.

00:41:45.720 It's not problematic at all.

00:41:48.020 I think you see where we're going here.

00:41:50.100 But we're going to tell you the truth about Apollo 11 with Bill Whittle when we come back next.

00:41:55.480 I'm Hillary.

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00:41:59.680 And now here's Glenn and Stu with the second hour of our show.

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00:43:02.700 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:43:06.180 We choose to do these things, not because they're easy, but because they are hard.

00:43:17.080 When Kennedy said, we're going to send a man to the moon and bring him back again, we had no concept of how that was ever even going to be done.

00:43:31.280 And he said, we're going to do it in 10 years.

00:43:34.540 It was the biggest challenge perhaps the United States has ever faced.

00:43:42.320 Your cell phone has 10, what is it, 1,000 times the computing power than all of the computers used to send a man to the moon.

00:43:54.460 And it had to be exactly right.

00:43:59.120 Now there's a movement now to just say this is, once again, the white patriarchy.

00:44:04.080 We shouldn't be celebrating.

00:44:06.140 My eyes are going to just shoot blood through my hair, through my eyes.

00:44:10.440 It is crazy what is being said now about the Apollo landing.

00:44:16.440 So if you just hate white people and you think this is the white patriarchy, you should probably not listen to the next few minutes because we have Bill Whittle on.

00:44:26.620 He is, he's the host of Apollo 11, What We Saw, a new documentary, and I think you're going to love it.

00:44:35.920 We go there in one minute.

00:44:37.980 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:44:53.580 Yes, you are.

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00:44:55.620 I'm never going to go to Disney.

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00:44:58.280 Your kids are going to say, I want to go to Disney World.

00:45:00.180 And you're going to fold.

00:45:01.220 Okay.

00:45:01.480 Because there isn't anything that is good from our side.

00:45:06.400 So what do you do?

00:45:08.240 You have to have something to replace it that is as good, if not better.

00:45:14.020 Well, it's taken us a while and we're finally getting there.

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00:47:06.360 Bill Whittle joins us now.

00:47:10.200 He is he's done a documentary on Apollo 11.

00:47:14.500 Uh, and he's, uh, done it on the daily wires, YouTube, and it is really, really good.

00:47:22.520 Uh, welcome to the program, Bill.

00:47:24.360 Good morning, Glenn.

00:47:25.340 How in the blazes are you?

00:47:26.360 I'm very, I'm very good.

00:47:27.860 So tell me the story because this is already, I don't know if you've seen what they're saying now that this is the white patriarchy and everything else.

00:47:35.680 And we're not supposed to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the moon landing, but it is a remarkable thing that happened 50 years ago.

00:47:44.280 I'm so glad you brought that up, um, because as you will know, if you ever saw the footage, the, the kind of the, um, the highlight of the moon landing was when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin planted that giant foam.

00:47:58.020 We're number one finger in the, in the soil and started chanting USA, USA, we're number one.

00:48:03.940 Well, you will notice that they were wearing white suits and while their hats weren't pointed, they were still white.

00:48:10.100 Here's why I want to bring that up.

00:48:12.020 Um, what they, what they said when they got off the, the, the ladder and they went to the plaque on the, on the, on the, on the, uh, leg of the limb, they read a plaque that's still there.

00:48:22.500 It'll be there forever.

00:48:23.240 And here's what it said.

00:48:25.500 It said, here, men from planet earth first set foot upon the moon, July, 1969, we came in peace for all mankind.

00:48:33.420 Now that is not the most gracious, generous, uh, deeply, deeply, um, humble and, uh, and, and kind of magnificent thing to say.

00:48:43.360 Uh, Bill, they use the word man twice.

00:48:46.340 Oh, well, there you go.

00:48:47.240 I guess they didn't say him, they didn't say him, her, or.

00:48:53.240 They, them, uh, and that's the real issue here, Bill.

00:48:56.780 Tell me, because I think this is really fascinating that the world, as they watched, more people saw this than anything else.

00:49:06.200 We watched it simultaneously all around the world in every country.

00:49:10.420 Uh, and it, what's amazing about the way this was done is the rest of the world did not look at this as an American thing.

00:49:22.040 They looked at it as humans actually being able to pull this off.

00:49:28.460 Precisely right.

00:49:29.320 600 million people watched this back in 1969, which means that every single person on the planet who had access to a television set watched at the same time.

00:49:38.580 If they were, if they didn't have a TV set, they'd go and, and look in through store windows where they were selling TV sets.

00:49:44.520 I was lucky enough to have watched the moon landing at age 10 from the Plaza Hotel, and there were tens of thousands of people in Central Park watching it on projection screens down there.

00:49:53.320 And you're, and you're absolutely right.

00:49:55.480 No one thought of it as an American moment.

00:49:58.000 Everybody thought of it as a human moment.

00:50:00.240 And, um, and I think that's what makes some people just so, uh, virulently opposed to this whole idea.

00:50:08.160 Because it wasn't just a great technological achievement.

00:50:10.720 It was a great technological achievement accomplished by the United States of America,

00:50:15.280 America, but done in such a, in such a generous and noble fashion that everybody on earth felt like this was their achievement.

00:50:23.100 Right.

00:50:23.280 It wasn't, it was never phrased, uh, as, I mean, there was the competition with the Soviet Union.

00:50:30.420 Uh, and that is one of the reasons, you know, Kennedy knew we've got to get our crap together, uh, because we have to be in space.

00:50:38.500 But that was never, uh, the spirit of it, not, not with any of the astronauts, not with the people of NASA.

00:50:47.460 They were just looking to do something that mankind had never done before.

00:50:54.180 Precisely right.

00:50:54.820 And on a later mission, um, when they left a plaque for the dead astronauts, uh, and cosmonauts who had died in the attempt,

00:51:01.060 they included the, uh, Soviet cosmonauts on that plaque as well.

00:51:03.700 Um, it was, um, it was the only way for us to fight a war that we've been in for 50 years.

00:51:11.780 And by the way, we used all of our, what otherwise would have been destructive methods of war.

00:51:16.040 We used missiles and rocket technology.

00:51:17.860 We had test pilots.

00:51:19.280 We had aircraft carriers recovering the vehicles.

00:51:21.320 We had our radar stations tracking them, which were originally designed, of course, to track incoming missiles.

00:51:25.960 All of this military hardware got channeled into the only place where we could actually compete with that hardware

00:51:33.180 and not face the fact that each side had 25,000 nuclear weapons pointed at each other.

00:51:38.860 And people, you know, before the Soviet Union collapsed, uh, people don't understand that basically in the early to mid sixties towards late sixties,

00:51:47.400 this entire thing was basically a sales pitch, Glenn, you know, the, the world consisted of the free countries.

00:51:53.840 And then they, the first world, the second world world, the socialist nations, and then the huge uncommitted third world.

00:52:00.620 We were basically in an ad campaign against the Soviets trying to convince them that our system was better. 0.88

00:52:06.100 And I might point out that by the middle of 1958, the Russians had launched the first two satellites for a combined weight of 1,300 pounds.

00:52:15.940 And we'd launched the second two for a combined rate of 33 pounds.

00:52:19.560 So we're down 40 to one in 1958.

00:52:23.660 And, and when Kennedy became president, he understood that we, we could not as a nation survive with, forget the technological edge.

00:52:33.980 We couldn't as a nation survive thinking that we were second best.

00:52:37.820 And so he proposed the hardest thing that's ever been done.

00:52:40.620 And frankly, Glenn, he got it all in the first seven words where he said, we choose to go to the moon.

00:52:46.320 And that was the hard part, making the choice.

00:52:48.540 Everything after that was just an engineering challenge.

00:52:51.100 It's amazing to me.

00:52:52.060 And I wonder, um, whether this could happen again.

00:52:54.600 I've, I've had several conversations with the historian Arthur Herman, uh, about the concept in one of his books,

00:53:01.320 which is, uh, the, uh, freedom's forge and how we won world war two.

00:53:06.600 I'm not sure that we could do that today.

00:53:09.280 I mean, we have Google, uh, working with the Chinese and not with the Americans. 0.53

00:53:13.980 I'm not sure we could get everybody on board today like we did then.

00:53:19.160 Well, I have to tell you up until about two years ago, I mean, I was an Apollo kid.

00:53:23.840 I was an astronaut of five.

00:53:25.760 It was just paperwork that had to be completed.

00:53:27.460 And, um, but up until about two years ago, I thought, man, we, we really may have lost this edge.

00:53:32.940 And then when I saw SpaceX, SpaceX land the Falcon heavy booster simultaneously,

00:53:37.700 and I heard the cheer that went up from the SpaceX millennials who were in large part, the engineers for this,

00:53:43.960 I realized they hadn't heard that sound in 49 years.

00:53:47.520 And that was not since that night on July 20th, 1969, any company whose official recovery vehicle is named,

00:53:55.260 of course, I still love you, that company's going to Mars.

00:53:58.340 They're going to do things and have already done things that the Russians can't do. 1.00

00:54:02.660 The Chinese can't do. 1.00

00:54:03.760 The Europeans can't do. 1.00

00:54:05.000 And, and NASA can't do, uh, because, because that company is under the, is under the vision of a person,

00:54:11.620 one individual who decides, Hey, you know what?

00:54:14.500 It might be kind of fun to launch a Tesla into space and we'll play David Bowie music.

00:54:18.500 And we'll have Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on the navigation screen, inconceivable that Boeing would do such a thing.

00:54:25.200 Right.

00:54:25.420 But, but they're having fun.

00:54:27.440 That's the difference.

00:54:28.340 This time they're having fun.

00:54:30.300 The, the, this is much more like what we're going through now is much more, uh, like the, uh, turn of the last century where the inventors were rebels.

00:54:42.640 Right.

00:54:43.080 And just, they, it was the wild west of invention.

00:54:47.800 Yes.

00:54:48.400 Uh, the, if you think about all the names, some of the names I just mentioned, um, Boeing, Grumman, Northrop, Hughes, uh, Cessna, Lear, these are all named for individual people.

00:54:59.720 And what it meant was, was if you had a vision, you could take a risk because the company belonged to you and all the innovations came out of that.

00:55:07.500 But even some of the big failures, like, uh, like Hughes's, uh, Hercules, which everybody called the spruce goose.

00:55:12.920 He said, I want to build the largest airplane in the world.

00:55:15.040 Everybody said he was nuts, but since it was his company, he could do it.

00:55:18.780 It turned out that that particular experiment failed, but somebody said it absolutely got it perfectly.

00:55:23.540 Once they said, if there had been an FAA in the golden age of aviation in the 1930s, then today we would be traveling from New York to Los Angeles in a propeller powered airplane with wooden wings and 4,000 feet.

00:55:36.700 It would take 40 hours and cost $9,000.

00:55:40.620 And that's what happens when you let people compete against each other and drive for the top instead of for the bottom.

00:55:46.920 Is there still a, cause I'm, I'm about your age, Bill.

00:55:52.180 And I remember I saw something, um, just the other day that is one of those, those like robotic hands that you just, you, you have a grip and just an extension and it can get things off of shelves.

00:56:05.400 And I thought, oh my gosh, I haven't seen one of these since I was a kid.

00:56:08.860 And that was a toy, you know, it was like, that's the robotic hand from space.

00:56:13.980 And that's what the, that's what they, you know, they're using on the moon.

00:56:17.380 And it's now it's just a, you know, something that you use, you know, to get things off of a, of a higher shelf.

00:56:24.440 Is there, is there that moment of imagination, uh, like we used to have when we were kids with the, with the moon shot?

00:56:34.360 It's funny you mentioned that because in the first episode of this, after I lay out what's going on with the actual landing, I say, you can't understand how we landed on the moon.

00:56:42.560 Unless you understand the idea of a cap gun, uh, because in the fifties and sixties, it was, nobody was talking about space yet.

00:56:49.840 Uh, Sputnik hadn't happened.

00:56:51.140 So it was cowboys and Indians land here in America, but here you are, and you want to sell a toy gun to kids. 0.88

00:56:56.160 And what you want is you want that kid to be able to pull the trigger, have it go bang.

00:57:00.200 And if you can have smoke come out of it, even better.

00:57:02.820 So this isn't red dead redemption, and we're not going to do it in the unreal four engine.

00:57:06.640 And we don't have particle effects and we're not going to have sound effects.

00:57:09.960 We have to physically make this thing work in the real world.

00:57:13.480 So they decided, I know, let's make a little red strip of paper and we'll put little blobs of actual gunpowder there.

00:57:19.820 And when you pull the trigger, it'll pop that little thing of gunpowder and it'll go bang.

00:57:23.540 And, and, and there's the smoke.

00:57:24.960 Now that's an actual engineering challenge.

00:57:27.300 And you, you couldn't do that in a computer.

00:57:29.600 You had to make it work in the real world.

00:57:31.820 And that practicality was what allowed us to get to the moon.

00:57:35.660 That and the fact that you and I had fathers that would let their sons go out with rolls of caps and actual claw hammers

00:57:42.040 and smash them all at the same time and make a big old noise.

00:57:45.280 You lose an eye in the process.

00:57:46.820 Well, that's the price of going to the moon.

00:57:48.220 That's right.

00:57:48.840 That's exactly right.

00:57:50.620 Bill, thank you for this great salute to Apollo 11 and to the moon shot.

00:57:56.120 And reminding us how good it felt, how good it felt.

00:58:01.780 Thank you.

00:58:02.140 The thing I'm most proud about this story is there are so many backstage human elements, so many weird things.

00:58:08.540 Buzz Aldrin said, held communion on the moon.

00:58:11.500 The first fluid poured on another planet was wine.

00:58:15.420 There's so many interesting human stories behind the technology.

00:58:18.840 And I'm just extremely honored to have had a chance to speak for those men of whom I think four remain who actually walked on the moon.

00:58:26.580 It's a tremendous honor for me.

00:58:28.300 Thanks, Bill.

00:58:28.620 Bill Whittle.

00:58:29.380 BillWhittle.com.

00:58:30.720 You can find this documentary that he has done.

00:58:33.800 It is fantastic.

00:58:35.160 It's Apollo 11, What We Saw.

00:58:38.200 It comes from our friends at The Daily Wire.

00:58:40.280 You can find it at Daily Wire's YouTube.

00:58:42.200 Apollo 11, What We Saw.

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01:00:13.480 We pause for 10 seconds, station ID.

01:00:15.620 Saturday is the 50th anniversary of the moon launch, and I've got an incredible essay that we've been working on that I'm going to air tomorrow.

01:00:40.420 So you don't want to miss some things that we just, I didn't, I just did not know until we started doing our research.

01:00:47.340 What an incredible moment this was.

01:00:49.720 Do you remember what, were you just a space shuttle kid still?

01:00:54.460 Uh, yeah, so yeah.

01:00:56.960 That's all you really remember.

01:00:58.700 My memory of the space program, maybe this is why I'm not as much into it, is largely the Challenger.

01:01:04.700 So, that's what, that's what your first memory is of the space program?

01:01:10.720 I mean, I knew of the space program before that.

01:01:13.140 I was born in 1976, so what was, Challenger was 86.

01:01:16.220 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:16.960 So you were 10.

01:01:18.160 So I was 10, it was like part, I remember that being a big thing to the level of like, I remember being at school,

01:01:24.620 I remember them wheeling out the televisions, uh, into, uh, into the room so we could all watch the big space shuttle launch with the teacher on it.

01:01:33.980 Oh, that'll be fun.

01:01:35.520 Oh my gosh.

01:01:36.400 Hey, uh, it wasn't that fun.

01:01:38.380 Uh, that was not a.

01:01:39.600 What was that like in class?

01:01:41.480 Cause I, I was too old for that.

01:01:43.860 What was that like being in class?

01:01:45.800 Yeah.

01:01:46.040 And it was a teacher, right?

01:01:46.960 I mean, it was the Kristen McAuliffe thing.

01:01:48.420 Um, so it was, uh, I mean, I don't think I, we really understood it.

01:01:53.460 I mean, I remember thinking when, you know, again, I'm 10 years old.

01:01:55.860 I remember thinking when you, first of all, you wonder, is this what it's supposed to look like?

01:01:59.920 You know, like that didn't look right.

01:02:02.140 And then you kind of wonder like, well, did they have parachutes or something?

01:02:05.860 If there's some way they could have, I mean, I had no idea.

01:02:08.300 I'm 10 years old.

01:02:09.000 Uh, and then of course it just becomes that awkward thing that, you know, adults do where they just start bringing up other things that will distract you.

01:02:17.440 It's kind of what I remember about it.

01:02:19.180 I remember it quickly kind of going away and not really realizing until I got home how bad it really was.

01:02:24.960 Do you remember the, uh, the last thing spoken before the explosion?

01:02:34.160 Boy, I'll never forget it.

01:02:36.060 I'll never forget it.

01:02:36.880 It's amazing.

01:02:37.680 You're 10 years old and you didn't.

01:02:40.180 I mean, I've watched it a bunch of times since and heard it, but I don't, I off the top of my head, don't remember it.

01:02:45.500 Go with throttle up.

01:02:47.440 Go with throttle up.

01:02:50.380 And then, yeah, that's right.

01:02:51.520 And then the rockets sort of like spread out and went like awkwardly sideways and like that doesn't, that's not good.

01:02:57.780 Yeah.

01:02:58.180 That's not good.

01:02:58.880 And that was such a big thing for schools because of the teacher connection.

01:03:02.440 You know, this, you know, Krista McAuliffe going into space.

01:03:06.180 The teachers were very like, it was a big moment for teachers.

01:03:10.340 They had everyone, all their kids and they talked about what a big deal it was that this, you know, wasn't just, you know, a bunch of normal astronauts.

01:03:18.520 Here's a, you know, a teacher just like me, just, you know, it was like, they really personalized it.

01:03:23.340 It was tough.

01:03:24.460 I mean, completely.

01:03:26.080 How could they possibly have seen anything like that?

01:03:28.320 So it has to, that's probably the big change because my memory of wheeling the television in was a black and white TV and seeing men on the moon in black and white.

01:03:40.040 You know, I remember, I didn't see Apollo 11.

01:03:44.380 I don't remember that.

01:03:45.300 I know I saw it, but I don't remember it.

01:03:47.140 I was four.

01:03:48.660 But I remember being in school for one of the later moon landings.

01:03:54.740 I don't know which one.

01:03:56.040 I was probably in first or second grade.

01:03:57.980 And I remember them wheeling the black and white TV and, and we all watched men on the moon and it was just thrilling, just thrilling.

01:04:08.440 My father, the generation before, said when he was growing up, they never even thought of that.

01:04:16.580 They never even thought men would ever go to the moon.

01:04:19.860 It was just beyond any kind of understanding.

01:04:22.700 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

01:04:26.180 All right.

01:04:26.780 You know, it's funny is now my son's like, why haven't we been to Mars?

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01:05:55.700 The Face app.

01:05:57.140 Have you done the Face app yet, Stu?

01:05:59.740 Actually, someone did it for us.

01:06:01.200 Did you see the pictures that got sent to us?

01:06:02.640 I haven't used it myself, but it's creepy.

01:06:05.560 It's creepy.

01:06:06.520 I don't want to send it to my wife because it's auto divorce because she'll be like, 1.00

01:06:10.340 oh, I'm not going to stick around for that.

01:06:11.820 I don't know.

01:06:12.380 You looked better than I did.

01:06:14.300 Well, I mean, I looked, I looked, wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:06:17.480 Hold it just a second.

01:06:18.500 I looked, you know, I looked really good as a woman.

01:06:20.780 I would, there's no reason I just don't go for the transgendered thing at this point. 0.99

01:06:24.140 Number one, be big on conservative radio, right?

01:06:26.820 Like it would be a big deal if you had a conservative radio host that went transgendered. 1.00

01:06:30.580 Uh, number two, very popular.

01:06:33.140 Number two, I would have all sorts of benefits.

01:06:35.100 I could say anything, right?

01:06:36.380 I mean, I could say, you could say anything.

01:06:38.400 And then if someone, will you identify as a black woman as well?

01:06:42.280 Each day.

01:06:43.100 It would be like, you'll tune in at the beginning of the day.

01:06:45.240 We'll pull like a, we'll spin a wheel to see what I identify as.

01:06:49.180 And number three, according to Face app, I'd be a hot woman.

01:06:52.500 I mean, let's be honest about it.

01:06:54.280 I looked at the pictures.

01:06:55.700 I'd be pretty, I'd be pretty hot.

01:06:57.240 Much better looking than I am a guy.

01:06:58.380 I mean, I'm very mediocre to below average as a guy, maybe below that.

01:07:04.200 But as a woman, I look pretty hot.

01:07:07.060 I've dressed up before in certain roles, also at home by myself.

01:07:12.780 And each time I've noticed a pretty good looking lady. 1.00

01:07:16.400 So I haven't noticed that, but Face app was very kind to you in the, in the ladies department.

01:07:21.440 Thank you.

01:07:22.300 And me, on the other hand, doesn't work as a male or female.

01:07:25.880 No, you don't even work in like the normal one where they just like, this is the photo

01:07:29.820 you sent us.

01:07:30.500 I was like, wow, it doesn't work either.

01:07:31.840 It's not good.

01:07:32.960 It's not good.

01:07:33.960 Now Chuck Schumer is coming out and saying that this is Russian technology and that Democrats

01:07:39.220 should not use this.

01:07:41.880 You know, I'm glad that we're paying attention to these things.

01:07:45.800 I don't know if there's anything real behind this, this so-called threat.

01:07:51.760 Well, I mean, the 1980s called your fear of foreign relations.

01:07:57.720 I mean, they want it back.

01:07:59.900 Right.

01:08:00.440 Because, you know, I don't know if you know this.

01:08:02.180 Ivan Drago and Rocky Balboa ended the Cold War a long time ago, guys.

01:08:05.960 No reason to worry about Russia.

01:08:07.520 Right.

01:08:07.740 It's insane to be hearing Democrats talk the way they are now about Russia.

01:08:14.000 Like they have accused conservatives and Republicans for being fear mongers on Russia for almost

01:08:21.280 a century.

01:08:22.900 Yeah.

01:08:23.240 Right.

01:08:23.640 Yeah.

01:08:23.840 And now all of a sudden, because of one news cycle where because Donald Trump said like

01:08:29.980 three nice things about Vladimir Putin, despite all of his actions against Russia, which have

01:08:34.580 been much stronger than Obama was when it comes to sanctions and other and other things when

01:08:39.220 it comes to Russia, despite his administration's actions.

01:08:42.560 Now, all of a sudden, Russia is a huge threat and now all of a sudden Russia is a big worry 1.00

01:08:47.040 and we're supposed to take all of that seriously from them.

01:08:50.380 I mean, that is intolerable.

01:08:51.520 So they're they're saying that nobody should use this because it's collecting information.

01:08:55.720 Now, the truth is, is that it is it is Russian technology.

01:08:59.700 It was it was developed in in Russia, Russian company, right by a company that does have

01:09:05.600 ties to the Russian government.

01:09:07.000 But we don't know anything else.

01:09:10.300 But I will warn you that this is the kind of thing that the former Soviet Union isn't 0.91

01:09:18.000 you know, it's not it's not beneath them to do stuff like this.

01:09:22.100 Well, it's funny, too, because we talk about things like deep fakes, right?

01:09:25.840 You need good photos.

01:09:27.880 And like it is part one of this is the tech people have really looked into this and what

01:09:34.200 the tech people say and the experts in this field say that there's you know, it is is it

01:09:39.880 a very wide license for use of these photos that are that is in the agreement?

01:09:45.520 The answer to that is yes.

01:09:46.680 However, we have a my contract.

01:09:49.340 My contract says that during the period of the contract, the parent company of Premiere

01:09:57.660 owns my broadcast in this universe and all other universes.

01:10:05.080 Yes, legitimately, it says that legitimately, it says that it's as broad as you can possibly

01:10:10.280 get.

01:10:10.880 Now, Premiere Radio Networks is not planning on broadcasting the show.

01:10:14.740 That's what they'll have you think in another universe.

01:10:16.960 Yeah, and I'm going to get gypped on it when they find that other universe.

01:10:20.080 But it's just one of those things where you just write the license as wide as possible

01:10:23.360 to cover everything.

01:10:24.340 So there's no question.

01:10:25.780 And contracts are written like this all the time.

01:10:27.400 You're clicking accept to things like that all the time.

01:10:30.000 Though there the face app one is is as broad as you can make it.

01:10:35.660 And the reason why it's more broad than a Facebook or Twitter is because there's been

01:10:38.700 pressure on Facebook and Twitter.

01:10:40.220 And so they've they've over time made the license not quite as expansive because people

01:10:46.780 believe they might actually use this for some purpose.

01:10:49.380 Face app is a small, smaller company.

01:10:51.300 They're you know, they just are writing it broadly.

01:10:53.880 And it is a scary thing if you look at these licenses.

01:10:57.720 But they are all scary if you look at them.

01:11:00.180 That's why everyone clicks accept.

01:11:02.160 A, there's a lot is a lot of words.

01:11:03.800 B, you don't want to actually know what's in there.

01:11:05.720 But there is a concern that it comes from Russia because we do know that that Russia

01:11:10.160 is trying to disrupt.

01:11:12.060 I believe that are the the deep fake that will let everyone in America go from not knowing

01:11:20.600 what a deep fake is to everyone in America knowing what a deep fake is in a week's time.

01:11:26.160 I think it will come from Russia.

01:11:28.980 So we have to keep our eye on Russia.

01:11:31.220 Now, there's there's something else that I found.

01:11:33.880 One more additional thing on this, because we we started on the deep fakes and then stopped.

01:11:38.680 Think of if you have a photo that you sent, that is not something you've published necessarily

01:11:45.180 online, right?

01:11:46.580 Like you're taking a photo maybe of yourself.

01:11:48.140 It's not even on your phone.

01:11:49.780 They if they have that photo and they have rights to it and they want to manipulate it

01:11:53.600 like there is a real serious risk.

01:11:58.480 If Russia wants to do something nefarious, getting this information, I think that that

01:12:03.120 is actually a real thing.

01:12:04.480 I do.

01:12:04.620 They're talking about this, you know, a lot of the pictures get deleted in 48 hours and

01:12:09.140 which is which is apparently true.

01:12:11.000 A lot of them are stored on Amazon cloud services, which, again, you might not like Amazon, but

01:12:15.300 that's an this is where they're being stored.

01:12:18.100 But like you have to add in in like who knows what the Russian government has, what plans

01:12:23.420 they have for this, how much of this they're just taking as it's coming in.

01:12:27.200 There's no way to know that stuff and you don't know it until afterwards.

01:12:31.340 So it is a risk.

01:12:32.420 So last night I was watching this this little mini doc.

01:12:37.600 It was about 10 minutes long.

01:12:39.400 It's about the planned U.S. 0.76

01:12:42.180 nuclear attack against the former Soviet Union.

01:12:45.380 And our plan was to wipe the Soviet Union off the map. 0.95

01:12:48.940 Now, I'm always fascinated by these things because there are plans for everything.

01:12:53.100 You know, that's that's what the Pentagon is supposed to do is plan for everything.

01:12:58.620 And the plans for the Soviet Union coming across and and killing all of us and taking over the 0.99

01:13:05.280 United States.

01:13:06.080 Those are just as diabolical and evil.

01:13:08.700 And they didn't happen.

01:13:10.020 But they were planned just in case you have to have that plan.

01:13:14.900 I hope I hope the United States has a plan for any scenario.

01:13:21.780 That's their job.

01:13:23.220 But I was interested in seeing this because it was a plan that was developed in 1945, right

01:13:29.740 after the Second World War, and it was dated September 15th.

01:13:34.180 I want you to listen to this and tell me if anything sticks out.

01:13:38.640 Listen to a bit of this.

01:13:40.000 Western media has largely focused its attention on the Cold War U.S.-USSR confrontation.

01:13:47.000 The plan to annihilate the Soviet Union, dating back to World War II and the infamous Manhattan 0.91

01:13:52.020 Project, are not mentioned.

01:13:54.460 Washington's Cold War nuclear plans are invariably presented as a response to so-called Soviet

01:14:00.800 threats, when in fact it was the U.S. September 1945 plan to wipe out the Soviet Union, which

01:14:07.480 motivated Moscow to develop its nuclear weapons capabilities.

01:14:12.100 Had the U.S. decided not to develop nuclear weapons for use against the Soviet Union, the 0.61

01:14:17.660 nuclear arms race would not have taken place.

01:14:20.620 Neither the Soviet Union nor the People's Republic of China would have developed nuclear capabilities

01:14:26.480 as a means of deterrence.

01:14:28.380 The Soviet Union lost 26 million people during World War II.

01:14:33.740 The USSR developed its own atomic bomb in 1949 in response to the 1942 Soviet intelligence

01:14:41.500 reports on the Manhattan Project.

01:14:44.260 Now, listen to this.

01:14:45.920 I'm quoting from the rest of this.

01:14:47.760 The document outlining this diabolical military agenda was released in September 1945.

01:14:54.420 It's worth noting that Stalin was first informed through official channels by Harry Truman of

01:14:59.380 the infamous Manhattan Project at the Potsdam Conference in July 24th, 1949, barely two weeks

01:15:06.460 before the attack on Hiroshima.

01:15:08.000 But the Kremlin was fully aware of the secret Manhattan Project as early as 1942.

01:15:15.220 Were the 1945 Hiroshima and Nagasaki attacks used by the Pentagon to evaluate the viability of

01:15:22.200 a much larger attack on the Soviet Union consisting of more than 204 bombs?

01:15:27.820 So they're making the case that the only reason why we bombed Japan was so we could test it out to see

01:15:34.200 what would it take to really wipe out the Soviet Union?

01:15:38.820 Then, towards the end, it says,

01:15:40.580 In the post-Cold War era, under Donald Trump's fire and fury,

01:15:44.000 nuclear war directed against Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran is on the table.

01:15:49.700 Today's president, Donald Trump, does not have the foggiest idea as to the consequences of nuclear war.

01:15:56.060 Communication between the White House and the Kremlin is at an all-time low.

01:16:01.160 In fact, in 1962, the leaders on both sides, John F. Kennedy and Nikita Khrushchev,

01:16:06.440 were acutely aware of the dangers of nuclear annihilation.

01:16:10.360 They collaborated with a view to avoid the unthinkable.

01:16:15.040 The nuclear doctrine was entirely different than the Cold War.

01:16:18.620 Both Washington and Moscow understood the realities of mutually assured destruction.

01:16:23.500 The 1 trillion-plus-plus nuclear weapons program was first launched under Obama, and it is ongoing.

01:16:33.300 Today's thermonuclear bombs are more than 100 times more powerful and destructive than the Hiroshima bomb,

01:16:38.640 and both the U.S. and Russia have several thousand nuclear weapons already deployed.

01:16:43.400 But moreover, and more importantly, an all-out war against China is currently on the drawing board of the Pentagon,

01:16:51.500 as outlined by the Rand Corporation, commissioned by the U.S. Army.

01:16:57.040 This is insane.

01:16:59.700 It ends with, the U.S. has a long history of political insanity geared towards providing a human face to U.S. crimes against humanity.

01:17:17.060 So I'm watching this, and it just slowly starts to go awry.

01:17:22.600 It goes from a documentary to a propaganda piece, and so I did a little bit of research.

01:17:32.200 It is coming from a guy in Canada who is a huge supporter of the Soviet Union,

01:17:41.340 has been for a very long time, conspiracy theorist, etc., etc.

01:17:46.420 The thing is, is this is what Russia is doing to us.

01:17:53.220 We are not awake at all to see the manipulation that is going on by enemies, enemies of ours, Russia, the Palestinians. 0.91

01:18:08.720 Palestinians, I'm sorry, but the Palestinian government is, is not a friend of the United States.

01:18:17.680 Iran, not a friend of the United States. 0.99

01:18:20.140 I was listening to NPR this morning, because I like to hear what the other side is saying.

01:18:23.580 The way they phrased what's happening with Turkey was unbelievable.

01:18:29.580 Turkey was in NATO, and the United States needs to have Turkey in NATO. 0.83

01:18:34.860 No, I don't think so.

01:18:36.160 A lot of people think that that was a mistake, and Turkey is buddying up with Russia.

01:18:43.660 In fact, they just decided to buy a Russian air defense system.

01:18:49.120 We told, we told Turkey, well, then you're not buying any of our planes,

01:18:53.260 because you can't be double dealing on both sides.

01:18:56.100 You'll have the planes and the Russians over there with their anti-missile system.

01:19:01.820 No, you're not getting both technology.

01:19:03.960 NPR was spinning this as, look at Donald Trump.

01:19:08.840 He just wants war.

01:19:10.460 We've got to have Turkey. 0.98

01:19:12.160 We have to have Turkey as an ally.

01:19:14.280 Turkey hasn't been a real ally in a very long time.

01:19:19.160 I mean, geez, I can get more accurate information by driving in a cab in New York City than listening to some of these buffoons on the radio.

01:19:27.680 I mean, I was just up in New York, and there was a guy, he was from Turkey.

01:19:33.100 He had been here for 10 years.

01:19:35.000 I said, so what do you think of Turkey?

01:19:37.520 What's happening over there?

01:19:39.160 Him not knowing that I know what's happening in Turkey.

01:19:41.900 And he said, you know, 15 years ago, we thought maybe it would go all right.

01:19:47.820 He said it started to go awry, and the government became very totalitarian.

01:19:53.000 He said, and I was just beginning to see it.

01:19:55.680 And he said, so I decided to move over here to the United States for educational purposes.

01:19:59.800 He said, now I would never go back there.

01:20:02.760 He said, it is a totalitarian state, and it is very, very scary what's happening in Turkey.

01:20:09.240 Where is that analysis from NPR?

01:20:13.720 Yeah, nowhere.

01:20:15.000 Nowhere.

01:20:15.560 And I will say, too, a related topic here.

01:20:18.460 I don't know this guy's exact situation, but that's the exact type of immigrant you want. 0.91

01:20:22.220 It's exactly the type of person who looks and sees a totalitarian or a socialist government starting to crack down and comes here because they're celebrating the things that we have, the opportunities.

01:20:34.100 He came here with the hope of someday returning, but he came over here because he knew the education that he could get.

01:20:42.000 He came over here, then saw, oh, man, I've got it free and easy here compared to back home.

01:20:47.460 I am not going back there.

01:20:49.560 And then he spoke to me about how much he loved America, how all of the opportunities that we have and how Americans just don't see it.

01:20:57.620 Right.

01:20:57.740 And there's no one with that story, no one's chanting, send them back to that person, no matter what color they are, no matter what they look like.

01:21:05.700 Nope.

01:21:06.200 Thank you very much.

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01:22:28.880 Both Stu and I, Jamie Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills, Kills is going to be joining us next.

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01:24:13.300 About five years ago, it's been longer than that now.

01:24:25.920 When I left Fox, I came out and I said, you know, I've made some real mistakes.

01:24:31.540 You can't go from, you know, the tied for, what was it, third or fourth place most admired man in the world in one year,

01:24:38.440 and the next year be hated by half of the population of the country without doing some soul-searching and saying,

01:24:46.200 what did I do?

01:24:47.380 What role am I playing?

01:24:49.020 And I urged America and the media, please do some soul-searching.

01:24:53.500 Especially after the Trump election, I reached out to everybody I knew and said,

01:24:59.280 please don't make the mistakes that I made, but you're going to make them if you don't wake up and have a conversation

01:25:06.460 and understand we're actually, we're in agreement on a lot of stuff.

01:25:12.880 Don't demonize.

01:25:15.480 Well, I was alone for a long, long time, and I tried really hard.

01:25:19.720 And now it's happening, and it's happening organically, and it's not happening with the people in the media,

01:25:25.160 because I think they have too much to lose or they're just too myopic.

01:25:29.080 But it is happening with real people and people who made really bad mistakes,

01:25:36.600 and they haven't changed their political stance.

01:25:40.200 They just don't have any hate for the other side anymore,

01:25:43.360 and they're looking for people that believe much of the same stuff,

01:25:47.640 just the same outcome, just a different way to get there.

01:25:52.280 And they're tired of it.

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01:25:57.920 Huge.

01:25:58.800 Because he admits he was a big part of the problem.

01:26:02.860 And he's not now.

01:26:04.420 You're going to enjoy our conversation in one minute.

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01:27:34.720 Jamie Kilstein, he is a comedian.

01:27:41.920 He is a podcaster.

01:27:43.800 He is a former social justice warrior that did a lot of destruction.

01:27:53.120 He destroyed his life, or his life was destroyed for him.

01:27:58.000 He was a guy who was suicidal.

01:28:01.840 He's a human, and he seems to be an honest human that is looking to anybody who will say,

01:28:12.140 enough is enough.

01:28:14.180 Can't we just talk about things?

01:28:16.980 Welcome to the program, Jamie Kilstein.

01:28:20.040 Thank you so much for having me.

01:28:21.980 Your intro was so nice, and as you were doing it, I was like, wow, I've said terrible things about you.

01:28:27.620 That was so, yeah, that was so kind.

01:28:33.520 I mean, that means a lot, and I mean, I literally, I don't know if you remember this.

01:28:39.840 I was so bad years ago, at one point, I have you on my resume,

01:28:45.940 because at one point, my old Very Lefty podcast essentially just was trolling you,

01:28:52.560 and did an episode called, like, the F.U. Glenn Beck episode,

01:28:56.780 and had, like, Bill Ayers was, like, our guest.

01:29:01.780 Oh, man, I would have loved to hear it.

01:29:03.880 I'd love to.

01:29:04.360 You'd have to send it to me.

01:29:05.320 I'd love to hear it.

01:29:07.100 I'd love to hear it.

01:29:08.480 Yeah, and then I think you talked about it on your show,

01:29:11.760 and you called me a doofus.

01:29:14.080 Like, we were both so ridiculous.

01:29:16.060 You called me a doofus, and then I put it on my resume,

01:29:18.460 so when I would, like, go to clubs and stuff,

01:29:20.640 my resume was, like, I had a blurb from, like, Robin Williams.

01:29:23.760 I had a really nice newspaper blurb,

01:29:25.820 and then the last one said, Jamie Kilstein is a doofus.

01:29:28.520 Glenn Beck.

01:29:29.400 I love that.

01:29:30.820 Very funny.

01:29:32.320 But, like, you, at the time,

01:29:34.760 I would rather have promoted myself off of something negative

01:29:39.100 and something crappy like that than actually, you know, talent.

01:29:43.460 Or, anyway, long story short, thank you for having me on.

01:29:46.400 You're welcome.

01:29:47.780 I'm having you on because you are, you have an incredible story.

01:29:53.620 You are somebody who admits, holy cow, was I going down the wrong path?

01:30:01.180 And you enjoyed the darkness of it.

01:30:05.300 I had kind of a different story.

01:30:07.800 I didn't really enjoy the darkness of it.

01:30:09.580 I just was filled with certitude that I knew who other people were

01:30:16.800 and everybody was in a group, and that's not true.

01:30:22.440 And when you're being attacked, as you know and I know,

01:30:25.840 you're being attacked, you attack back,

01:30:28.080 because it felt like it was life and death.

01:30:30.800 It really did.

01:30:32.440 Yeah.

01:30:32.780 And, I mean, I had that certitude, too, for sure.

01:30:36.680 That's what's so scary about the Internet and tribalism and echo chambers,

01:30:41.800 where when you get your following

01:30:45.140 and you start talking to people offline less and online more

01:30:50.240 and you attack someone, those likes go up and those retweets go up.

01:30:54.940 And if, like me, you were drinking and you were depressed

01:30:58.320 and you were in a failing marriage and you didn't really like your friends in New York,

01:31:02.980 but if I opened my computer and I went online

01:31:05.960 and I attacked whoever the left was attacking that day

01:31:08.980 and then I started just to get, you know, validation, validation, validation,

01:31:12.680 that made me feel good.

01:31:14.700 And, you know, the thing on the left is I never liked when people said

01:31:18.220 the extreme left was the same as the extreme right,

01:31:21.740 because I was like, in my head, you know, the right started wars

01:31:25.940 and nobody was, like, dropping into a rack being like,

01:31:29.200 free health care.

01:31:30.220 And I thought that was, like, a garbage analogy.

01:31:33.260 But now I see what people are talking about

01:31:35.180 and I think what they mean when they say that.

01:31:37.220 It's the rhetoric of the extreme right and the extreme left

01:31:40.500 and what you were talking about in your intro,

01:31:42.740 which is just not being willing to have conversation.

01:31:47.040 So I had that certitude.

01:31:48.660 I thought I was doing the right thing.

01:31:50.200 Also, take in mind, I dropped out of high school.

01:31:53.340 I'm a white, straight dude.

01:31:54.640 I have so many insecurities that whenever someone did tell me I was wrong

01:32:01.520 or I wasn't being progressive enough,

01:32:03.540 I just thought that meant I was a bad person.

01:32:06.180 So my certitude almost came from, like, a self-hatred point of view.

01:32:11.620 But a lot of it did have to do with getting the validation

01:32:15.500 that I wasn't getting in my real life.

01:32:17.480 And to be honest, I think a lot of people are going through that.

01:32:20.160 I think any time somebody tweets you and they don't know you

01:32:23.900 and they're attacking you, the proper response is like,

01:32:27.100 hey, man, are you okay with your dad?

01:32:28.680 Like, do you need to call your mom?

01:32:29.940 Like, what's going on in your personal life

01:32:32.700 to make you spend all day yelling at strangers on the Internet?

01:32:35.840 That is exactly the lesson I learned,

01:32:38.780 because I was very against Donald Trump.

01:32:40.800 And I was, you know, I worried about my own audience.

01:32:45.920 How have we been together this long?

01:32:48.240 And you don't see what I see or how I see.

01:32:51.720 And I've always felt like I've loved my audience.

01:32:56.060 And I really do.

01:32:57.460 This audience is amazing.

01:32:58.980 Just an amazing audience.

01:33:01.340 And I was so confused and angry, all coming from me,

01:33:05.820 none of it coming from them.

01:33:06.720 And I realized about, I don't know, six months after the election,

01:33:11.120 you hypocrite. 0.95

01:33:12.220 You say you love the audience, but you don't,

01:33:14.840 because if somebody was acting like that in your real life,

01:33:17.280 you would say to them, what's happening in your life?

01:33:21.180 Because this is out of step.

01:33:22.820 So what's happening?

01:33:23.640 And what I missed was the tremendous pain and fear that people are feeling.

01:33:31.060 And that's everywhere now, everywhere.

01:33:33.940 People are in this pain and the fear of,

01:33:38.400 look how bad things are getting,

01:33:40.820 and nobody seems to be doing anything about it.

01:33:44.100 Yeah, if we talked to people in real life,

01:33:48.780 like we talk to people online,

01:33:51.660 America, it would look like the purge.

01:33:54.540 Like we would all just be attacking each other all day.

01:33:59.280 And once you step back, like you did,

01:34:03.080 like I'm trying to do and talk to people as humans and talk to people face to

01:34:08.520 face and realize that, like you said, like, we're all scared.

01:34:12.760 We're all insecure.

01:34:14.280 We're all trying to be better.

01:34:15.600 We're all trying to provide for our family.

01:34:17.280 It doesn't matter if you're on the left, on the right.

01:34:19.440 We all want to pet the stranger's dog before making eye contact with them. 0.91

01:34:23.280 Like, these are all things we want to do.

01:34:26.820 But what's happening when you go on the line is you're like, well,

01:34:29.400 I guess everyone on the left is like a milkshake throwing,

01:34:32.420 not our anarchist.

01:34:33.900 And everyone on the right is a Nazi.

01:34:35.880 And we're not having conversations because we are so determined to defend our

01:34:40.880 team blindly.

01:34:42.060 I mean, here's the thing.

01:34:42.800 If I on the left call every Trump voter a racist when Trump does something racist,

01:34:50.260 do you think that the people that I've been demonizing are going to want to

01:34:56.080 they're going to want to defend him or not say anything because they feel like

01:35:00.600 they've been put in a corner by the left?

01:35:02.200 That is exactly Jamie.

01:35:03.740 That is the that is I called everybody I knew in media and said, listen, here's what I've

01:35:10.820 learned.

01:35:11.900 I I said these things.

01:35:13.980 I still believe these things.

01:35:16.560 But the way I said them put everybody into a posture of I got to defend him.

01:35:22.580 I got to defend Obama because he's been attacked all the time.

01:35:26.420 And I said, you will only make things much worse.

01:35:30.200 If that's what you do, you have to reach out and say, what is it you're saying?

01:35:36.220 What are you hearing?

01:35:38.300 And they don't get it.

01:35:41.020 Yeah, 100%.

01:35:42.360 And I, you know, it's the saddest part about it is the audience you've built.

01:35:48.800 The audience I'm building is amazing.

01:35:52.300 And I'm very proud of it.

01:35:53.720 However, I know when I when I went to my agent in L.A.

01:35:58.940 under Donald Trump and, you know, I used to be rich when I was a screaming liberal and

01:36:05.420 would just attack people all day.

01:36:07.340 And now I'm not.

01:36:08.240 And when I went to him and I was like, hey, I know everybody's being political and we're

01:36:13.160 the most divided we've ever been.

01:36:14.960 How about I do a podcast about nuance and dialogue like the disappointment on his face

01:36:20.740 was palpitable.

01:36:22.180 And the problem is, the sad part is, when you spoke out, you probably got crap from

01:36:28.840 both sides.

01:36:29.620 Yes, I spoke out.

01:36:30.600 I got crap on both sides.

01:36:31.860 I actually, even though I'm still pretty liberal on most things, I'm very well aware that if

01:36:39.660 I wanted to be like a millionaire, I mean, this is when I was sleeping on a couch after having

01:36:45.440 like a pretty great life financially, at least in New York, I was getting offers to kind of

01:36:51.460 be like the the left wing guy who goes right wing.

01:36:55.080 Like I could have written that book.

01:36:56.540 That was, you know, why I left the left hosting my own show on Fox News in like a couple of

01:37:02.200 years.

01:37:02.580 And I would have had money and I would have done like mental jujitsu to convince myself

01:37:06.580 I wasn't selling out.

01:37:07.820 But I'm I'm not that.

01:37:09.780 And I'm much slower building this show about kind of what you're doing.

01:37:17.860 The sad thing for me is I don't know if you experienced it in the opposite way.

01:37:23.360 But the sad thing for me is I am getting booked far more on conservative shows and they know

01:37:30.260 I'm still liberal.

01:37:31.220 Like I'm not suddenly, you know, changing my stances on a ton of things I have on on a

01:37:35.940 couple and I'm not getting booked on left wing.

01:37:39.660 Yeah.

01:37:40.020 So, Jamie, that that that in some ways happened with me to where but I was looking to go on

01:37:48.240 to the other side because I was trying to find somebody would have real dialogue.

01:37:52.440 They would they always approached it with me that Glenn Beck has changed his he's had

01:37:58.460 a change of heart and he's had a change of view.

01:38:00.840 And I'm like, no, I still believe everything that I used to believe.

01:38:05.040 There's just one big difference here.

01:38:07.920 And and in your case, you still believe in policies, but you're not the social justice

01:38:13.400 warrior that is taking everybody down.

01:38:16.200 And you literally were you were one of the guys who were like the first on the bandwagon to

01:38:21.460 get people fired.

01:38:23.140 Oh, yeah.

01:38:24.260 A hundred percent.

01:38:25.620 And it's again, I think that social media, I think that social media, it dehumanizes people

01:38:33.480 where they're not a person with a family.

01:38:36.160 They're a Twitter avatar that is expendable.

01:38:41.040 We're cartoon characters.

01:38:43.140 Yeah.

01:38:43.700 And people, myself included, you get this rush and we're so desperate for it.

01:38:50.720 I think the Kevin Hart one's a really great example where you had a bunch of people on

01:38:55.620 the left trying to take down a young black entrepreneur who I mean, I remember seeing him 1.00

01:39:02.640 at open mics who has built himself up to being this megastar.

01:39:07.380 And it wasn't like he said something the day before he hosted the Oscars.

01:39:12.860 It wasn't like he was like giving a speech and was like, man, I hope there aren't gay 1.00

01:39:16.440 people at the Oscars tomorrow.

01:39:17.780 Somebody had to dig.

01:39:22.640 Somebody had to dig.

01:39:24.000 Yes.

01:39:24.320 Ten years in the future.

01:39:25.520 They saw someone succeeding.

01:39:27.320 I mean, we're doing the opposite of self-help.

01:39:29.320 We're doing the opposite of positive affirmations, of lifting people up, of showing gratitude.

01:39:33.760 We are going online every day and searching.

01:39:36.000 That guy is successful.

01:39:37.220 Instead of how do I emulate him?

01:39:38.900 How do I learn from him?

01:39:40.020 I want to take him down.

01:39:41.360 And if we spent as much time trying to take other people down as we did, like building

01:39:45.720 ourselves and other people up, all of us would be successful and we would be far less miserable.

01:39:50.040 But we are searching out people to destroy.

01:39:53.560 And for me, when I was doing it, yeah, it was like the bullies, the popular kids in high

01:39:59.080 school where suddenly Justine Sacco was on a plane and she made this tweet that's offensive.

01:40:04.780 And when she lands, she's going to be fired and we would all gleefully be trying to come

01:40:09.300 up with the most clever joke or what, you know, we would ask the people so they knew

01:40:14.440 they were being talked about or gossiped about.

01:40:16.660 And I still get that online.

01:40:19.440 And the kind of addiction, like it was that same feeling of an alcoholic, of a drug addict

01:40:27.600 of like, I know I shouldn't do this, but I'm going to do this.

01:40:30.860 And then it takes over your life.

01:40:32.820 I mean, I remember one day where I was freaking out and I was, I was fighting with this liberal

01:40:37.720 journalist because the left loves nothing more, uh, than to fight with their own.

01:40:42.320 I was fighting with this guy, Josh Marshall.

01:40:44.940 Uh, he runs like, uh, or he ran at least at the time talking points memo and I was ignoring

01:40:49.880 my family and I was yelling at him and he was with his kids on the beach and he's fighting

01:40:55.760 with me.

01:40:56.480 And like, at one point he wrote F you freedom fighter to me and I like took a screenshot and

01:41:02.000 I posted it and it's like, both of us should have been with our families at that time.

01:41:06.160 And then I remember I was like, all right, I'm going to close my computer.

01:41:09.540 I'm going to stop fighting with him.

01:41:10.620 And I went, I lived on prospect park.

01:41:12.380 So I was like, I'm going to go walk through the park.

01:41:14.600 And before I even knew it, it's like blacking out and showing up at another bar.

01:41:20.400 I was in the park on my cell phone fighting with someone else on Twitter.

01:41:24.800 And that becomes your reality.

01:41:26.820 Cause people forget, um, I, there's no way I would have made it as a teenager with social

01:41:32.460 media because it follows you around.

01:41:34.720 You're sitting up.

01:41:35.980 Yeah.

01:41:36.100 You're sitting on the toilet and a stranger's calling you a cuck.

01:41:42.500 Jamie, I, I'm sorry.

01:41:44.240 I have to cut this short because we have breaking news that I have to get to.

01:41:48.000 May I ask you to come in and do a podcast with me?

01:41:52.460 I would, I would honestly, I would love to, I would love to apologize in person, grab coffee

01:41:58.560 a hundred percent.

01:41:59.600 I appreciate it.

01:42:00.360 God bless or, or not, whichever it is with you with God.

01:42:04.180 So thank you for being on the program.

01:42:06.860 We'll, uh, we'll talk again.

01:42:08.260 Uh, that's Jamie Kilstein.

01:42:09.980 He is, um, uh, he does the Jamie Kilstein podcast.

01:42:14.000 The guy has a remarkable story that you really need to hear.

01:42:18.480 Uh, and we'll continue in just a minute with some breaking news that is coming out.

01:42:23.240 All right.

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01:43:44.700 Yes.

01:43:45.520 I mean, I can't wait for that podcast.

01:43:47.200 His turn is remarkable.

01:43:51.280 First of all, he's really funny.

01:43:52.000 Um, but his, what the, the reason, you know, his sort of, uh, how the, his last gig fell

01:43:58.840 apart is fascinating.

01:44:01.260 Yeah.

01:44:01.740 Uh, you know, he became a victim essentially of everything he was doing.

01:44:05.560 Yeah.

01:44:05.880 And that's when he woke up and went, oh, wait a minute.

01:44:07.960 Yeah.

01:44:08.420 And then he went through some really dark times and, you know, he's really, I mean, you

01:44:13.320 know, before we put somebody on the air that's saying this, we really kind of try to do our

01:44:17.240 homework, uh, and he really has tried to change, uh, and he's not a guy who's looking for the

01:44:24.900 destruction of America or anything else.

01:44:26.600 He's just a liberal.

01:44:27.960 Um, he's not, he's not one of these people who hate America.

01:44:31.560 Yeah.

01:44:32.100 Um, and you know, when you have that in common today, that's a pretty big deal.

01:44:36.680 That feels good.

01:44:37.240 Yeah.

01:44:37.500 Yeah.

01:44:37.680 He's, uh, I believe he's dating someone who at least the family is conservative,

01:44:42.080 uh, conservative Christian, uh, and, uh, an oil oil family from Texas.

01:44:48.740 Yeah.

01:44:49.520 And he wrote this great, really hysterical piece on meeting the parents and what he would

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01:44:59.480 One part I did not know about the story was that I did not at all remember, you know,

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01:45:05.720 I don't, you know, that happens so often.

01:45:08.760 I know.

01:45:09.240 You're really, you can't even.

01:45:10.480 It's still happening.

01:45:10.780 Showtime is about to do it again this weekend, but, uh, we'll see.

01:45:15.540 Anyway, uh, we have some breaking news and we have the author of the story that is just

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01:45:22.400 Uh, and it is an important one, something that Donald Trump talked about yesterday.

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01:45:30.300 Well, yes, we know the guy who was working on it quite well, and, uh, we're going to

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01:47:05.680 There is some very timely breaking news today.

01:47:09.580 Yesterday, Donald Trump said, you know, there's there's a question of Ilan Omar and her relationship with her family and her her taxes.

01:47:22.120 And we we pretty much have the Minneapolis Tribune star to to verify that, yeah, the tax thing is definitely weird and it looks fraudulent.

01:47:36.540 She filed income tax saying she was married to someone else when she was actually married to another guy. 0.98

01:47:45.680 And they were all three living together.

01:47:48.360 It was a weird, weird story.

01:47:50.480 But David Steinberg has been working on this story for a long, long time with a couple of other people working together.

01:47:56.920 And it has been hard to tie up all of the loose ends on this story.

01:48:01.720 Was she married to her brother?

01:48:04.140 And if so, why David Steinberg has just broken with a new story on powerlineblog.com and I have looked at the evidence and it's pretty strong.

01:48:17.100 There are some things that I question.

01:48:19.000 I'm not sure.

01:48:19.940 And I'm not sure I understand the story yet, David, because it's very complex.

01:48:24.080 Thanks. But give me the gist of this new story.

01:48:28.900 Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me on.

01:48:30.920 You bet.

01:48:31.300 So what what I published this morning, I've had for several months.

01:48:36.740 Essentially, we've been holding on to this information that altogether does compile what what I would consider a smoking gun here.

01:48:45.500 There just simply aren't any other possibilities at this point for this to not have been her brother.

01:48:52.780 I'll put it that way.

01:48:54.080 But what I published today connects her to the drug to this individual in England as her sibling.

01:49:03.160 That's something that hasn't been published yet.

01:49:05.480 We had these charges of fraud before.

01:49:09.960 We had some other evidence published that showed she might have committed that she was married to two men at the same time.

01:49:20.140 This is the first time any information has been published that directly ties her to this person in a sibling relationship.

01:49:27.860 OK, now, I mean, it's there's two Ahmaads in her life, if I'm not mistaken. 1.00

01:49:32.700 There is the Ahmaad that she was married to here in the United States and has two children.

01:49:40.460 Then she supposedly got a divorce, but not an official divorce of a spiritual divorce or something.

01:49:46.240 And then she married this other Ahmaad.

01:49:50.160 And this is the one that you claim is the brother.

01:49:53.980 And is this an actual blood brother or is this a somebody that she was kind of adopted into this family?

01:50:04.940 What I'm hearing from sources, multiple sources within the Minnesota, Minneapolis, Somali community.

01:50:14.060 First of all, we're talking about what is an open secret among the Somali community there.

01:50:19.880 And to be honest, secret is not the appropriate word.

01:50:23.040 This is simply open.

01:50:24.460 If you have a decent understanding of Somali, for example, and you poke around a bit, you're going to find all of this online openly yourself.

01:50:34.560 That's just to start with.

01:50:36.420 Second, I do believe we are talking about a blood brother here.

01:50:39.820 And what happened is, according to these sources, back in Somalia, 1995, the father had five children and he did not have a means of getting them out of this refugee camp.

01:50:56.120 I'm sorry, in the refugee camp in Kenya.

01:50:58.040 OK, so another family, a second family, the Omars, offered him to the opportunity to fraudulently take himself and two of his children into their family, which was being granted asylum. 0.87

01:51:16.780 OK, so let's just give this the benefit of the doubt.

01:51:22.340 You're we're all in a in a refugee camp. 0.99

01:51:25.740 I have no chance of getting out.

01:51:27.260 And you are a good friend.

01:51:28.700 And you say, look, Glenn, I take two of your family members and you and I can get you into Great Britain.

01:51:36.400 We just have to you just have to be part of my family.

01:51:39.320 You're now Omar. 0.75

01:51:40.320 That's that's what's being charged here.

01:51:44.180 Correct.

01:51:44.840 OK, a common transaction.

01:51:47.580 OK, in those days in those refugee camps, people would sell their extra spots.

01:51:52.960 Or sell the the willingness to fraudulently add someone to their family.

01:51:59.900 And this was this was rampant.

01:52:03.520 As far as several people have spoken to, it's rampant.

01:52:06.340 There was a also a DNA testing done by the U.S. government about a decade later, mostly on Somali immigrants.

01:52:16.560 I mentioned this article and they concluded that up to 87 percent of applicants.

01:52:22.340 For this priority three family reunification program for refugees, up to 87 percent of applicants were applying fraudulently.

01:52:32.780 They were not members of the family they claim to be.

01:52:35.260 OK, but there's no there's no I'm just I just want to make sure that we are looking and giving the benefit of the doubt all the way along.

01:52:44.780 There's nothing.

01:52:45.700 I mean, it's illegal and it's fraud, but it wasn't a terrorist thing or anything.

01:52:50.620 This was how do I get out of a refugee camp? 1.00

01:52:53.340 So, correct.

01:52:55.240 Yeah.

01:52:55.860 I stress that in the article that they were fleeing from a hellish situation in Somalia.

01:53:01.260 Correct.

01:53:01.660 So we look to what happened back in 1995 as a way to find answers for what she might have done in 2000 and in 2009.

01:53:10.660 Once she was a U.S. citizen, she is she became a U.S. citizen in 2000.

01:53:15.780 So the excuse that it was it was a horrific situation they were fleeing from that was no longer active.

01:53:23.980 She'd been a U.S. citizen for nine years when she entered this marriage with the man who certainly now appears to be her brother.

01:53:32.240 Why would she do that? 1.00

01:53:35.020 She was married, had two kids.

01:53:37.280 She says she was married, you know, in her religious tradition, but not legally had two kids.

01:53:45.100 Why would she then say that she's leaving her husband? 0.99

01:53:49.000 But as you find out later, they're all living in the same house.

01:53:52.780 What are they what is she gaining by marrying this guy? 0.91

01:53:56.180 We have several different possible possibilities.

01:54:02.340 The most obvious one is speeding up the immigration case for her brother.

01:54:08.040 OK, so he was not an American citizen.

01:54:10.400 He was a British citizen.

01:54:11.880 He had been a British citizen for several years.

01:54:14.020 Correct.

01:54:14.520 OK.

01:54:15.020 Now, that's the first issue.

01:54:17.400 The second issue is that this entire marriage to this second individual occurred while both he and Ilhan were attending North Dakota State University.

01:54:28.540 So they get married summer of 2009.

01:54:33.260 They go to North Dakota State University.

01:54:35.600 Ilhan enrolls in the fall.

01:54:36.900 Well, she graduates in the spring of 2011, and that is when she tells people their marriage, their relationship ends, and she never sees them again.

01:54:48.600 Now, he was also enrolled at North Dakota State University at the time, too.

01:54:52.620 So the other likelihood here is student loan fraud.

01:54:57.360 Being married, the two of them were much more likely to get a better deal, considering they would no longer be dependents of their parents.

01:55:07.880 That income would not be included.

01:55:10.440 So FASTA fraud is definitely a possibility, which is also punished very severely.

01:55:16.360 Five years, I believe, for each instance of fraud on a federal FASTA form is the maximum.

01:55:22.840 And one of the other things that is bizarre is that they claim on, I think it's tax documents, that they're living, they're all kind of living together, right?

01:55:36.400 The old husband and, quote, the new husband living in the same house.

01:55:42.100 These didn't show up on tax documents.

01:55:44.160 I did a deep search into old address records, and I found them all living in the same house for that first year in North Dakota State, in Fargo.

01:55:56.020 They moved, they, all three of them moved to a second location for their second year at the university.

01:56:02.720 And I was also able to confirm that through articles.

01:56:07.580 I, Ilhan has stated in the past that she was with Ahmed Hersey and her two kids in North Dakota, that she stated that long before she was involved in politics.

01:56:18.260 I think that was in 2014 or 2015.

01:56:22.220 So we have quite a bit of evidence that she never separated from the man she'd had the two kids with.

01:56:28.280 Meanwhile, she had married this new individual, and all three of them were at the same address while they were attending college.

01:56:35.580 And then she has to go and testify for the divorce, correct? 0.54

01:56:42.120 In the divorce, that is in 2017.

01:56:45.980 And she has to testify that she doesn't know where her legal husband, possibly her brother, she has no idea.

01:56:56.500 She hadn't seen him since 2011.

01:56:58.660 Correct.

01:56:59.320 She testifies she has not seen him since June 2011.

01:57:02.240 And now, unfortunately...

01:57:05.240 She did this because she was applying for a default divorce, where one of the spouses cannot be found to be legally served.

01:57:15.000 So she answers eight questions on this nine-question form that are...

01:57:21.100 There is a very strong possibility that all eight questions are perjury.

01:57:26.160 Because we have solid proof that she was in touch with this person from 2011 until 2016, online, on both of their confirmed accounts.

01:57:38.580 We have photographs of them visiting each other in London in 2015.

01:57:43.840 This is the perjury case.

01:57:45.880 The perjury element of all this is the most open-and-shut part of the whole story.

01:57:51.660 So, what do people do with this?

01:58:03.300 I mean, because what's going to be said is, well, you don't know for sure.

01:58:10.640 She's not answering any questions.

01:58:12.660 The people who would prosecute this, I don't think, are motivated to prosecute this or to even look at it.

01:58:21.160 You can't even get the Minneapolis paper.

01:58:25.660 I mean, they basically said, your early report is all right.

01:58:30.740 However, nothing happened.

01:58:34.020 Nothing happened.

01:58:34.740 Well, nothing happened because they were not able to get the additional evidence that I did publish today.

01:58:43.660 And the additional evidence is they are the pictures and the Facebook posts back and forth, correct?

01:58:51.480 Correct.

01:58:52.280 What we could not do before was connect her in a sibling relationship.

01:58:57.500 We had plenty of evidence that they were in touch all these years and appeared to be conversing with each other as siblings.

01:59:07.140 For example, he referred to her children as his nieces and nephews.

01:59:13.240 Now, what we did not have, though, was any solid evidence besides that of them being siblings prior to the marriage.

01:59:23.520 And that's what I published today.

01:59:25.180 And so tell me about those pictures quickly because we're about out of time.

01:59:29.080 Tell me about the other pictures and the other things that you have found.

01:59:34.020 Well, quick summary.

01:59:35.780 What I published today is that Ilhan has – her father's name is Nur-Said.

01:59:43.420 I was able to confirm that she has called him by that name.

01:59:47.140 There is a sister named Leila Nur-Said Elmi who lives in England.

01:59:52.820 And I was able to confirm via her marriage records that she also calls her father Nur-Said Elmi.

02:00:01.640 And then what I found was these photographs which show Ilhan and Leila Nur-Said Elmi together with their father, Nur-Said, on a family trip.

02:00:15.520 And talking about him as their wonderful father.

02:00:21.140 Yeah, both talking about him as their wonderful father.

02:00:23.200 I posted a second photograph of Ilhan with her arm around Leila.

02:00:28.140 And Ilhan puts the caption on the photograph,

02:00:31.720 I heart my sister.

02:00:32.640 Now, I also, along with the official marriage document from the UK of Leila testifying that her father's name is Nur-Said Elmi,

02:00:43.060 we have a very strong connection that this woman is Ilhan's sister.

02:00:47.200 And this is what we did not have before.

02:00:48.600 We didn't have this connection to London.

02:00:50.800 Now, the sister Leila, I have found through sources,

02:00:55.540 was the guardian of Ahmed Nur-Said Elmi during his teenage years in London.

02:01:04.080 She essentially raised him.

02:01:06.700 She was his older sister.

02:01:08.160 She was 23.

02:01:09.120 He was 12 when they first arrived.

02:01:11.540 And she was his guardian in London until he was 18 years old.

02:01:17.640 Now, I have some other evidence showing that in the article,

02:01:21.380 some address records showing where they lived.

02:01:23.860 The school he attended was just around the block from Leila's address.

02:01:29.240 And there are, just to top it off,

02:01:33.720 there are some posts I found where he is referring to her as mom,

02:01:38.960 and she's referring to him as son.

02:01:41.360 All right.

02:01:41.560 So this is what we weren't able to do in the past,

02:01:43.820 was connect all of them together as family members.

02:01:46.420 And that's what I posted today.

02:01:47.760 David, thank you very much for all of your hard work on this.

02:01:51.060 I know The Blaze is looking to independently verify all of this

02:01:54.160 to give your story some extra legs and some extra eyes on it.

02:01:59.360 You've just posted this at powerlineblog.com.

02:02:02.600 I urge you to read it, see the evidence for yourself,

02:02:06.340 and do your own homework on it.

02:02:09.440 I think this is one of the bigger frauds that has ever happened,

02:02:13.260 if it is indeed true.

02:02:14.580 And the evidence is pretty damning at this point.

02:02:18.980 But if it is true, it is a remarkable story that needs to be addressed.

02:02:25.060 David Steinberg, thank you so much.

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The Glenn Beck Program - July 18, 2019

Madness Or Miracles ｜ Guests： Bill Whittle, Jamie Kilstein & David Steinberg ｜ 7⧸18⧸19

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