The Glenn Beck Program - Manipulated to Give Up？｜ Guests： Andy McCarthy, Joe Bastardi, & Cliff Maloney

00:00:00.000 this is the glenbeck program you know i i really feel like i need to start with uh this message

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00:00:19.100 the crazies that are out and the small number but they happen to have very large megaphones

00:00:28.080 right now and so they are making you feel very alone but you're not you're not and i'm going to

00:00:35.400 start with a little bit of wikipedia a little bit of bernie sanders and an awful lot a uh a heaping

00:00:45.120 handful of uh of chris cuomo we go there in one minute

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00:02:31.940 i uh i am so i i i don't i don't watch cable news anymore and i don't watch cable news anymore

00:02:51.520 because i can't take it i mean it's i know exactly what they were going to say yesterday if you watched

00:02:56.860 it you knew exactly what they were going to say um it didn't matter the truth doesn't seem to matter

00:03:02.720 nobody's really looking for the truth uh and we feel overwhelmed between facebook google even

00:03:11.520 wikipedia we've done a last couple of shows on television we did short segments on who wikipedia

00:03:17.940 really is you know you right now we are giving our intellectual um power over to two companies

00:03:30.980 google and wikipedia well we know who google is but try to sit in a room and say to somebody oh what

00:03:40.840 was the name of that guy that was in that movie with uh somebody will google it try to go a day

00:03:47.280 without google and once it's said on google that's true no matter what the topic is if google has

00:03:56.160 produced that result that's absolutely true and we are being manipulated but not only that we are

00:04:04.660 giving up our intellectual power because our power is being externalized we're taking our knowledge

00:04:12.420 and externalizing it we're giving it to someone else and we are losing that muscle of being able to find

00:04:20.240 truth to know and recognize the truth that's the real problem in america people don't know how to find

00:04:27.320 it they don't know how to recognize it they don't they don't even believe that it exists anymore unless

00:04:32.700 it comes from google or wikipedia we did uh we we spend the last couple of days just looking at wikipedia and

00:04:41.780 what they say and and who is editing wikipedia this thing is is so frequently used that it's it's as if we took

00:04:53.740 the entire population of the world and everybody visited it twice a month now think of that that's how much

00:05:04.940 it's being used so what is it who's making these edits well you have 1400 people that are responsible

00:05:17.500 for most of wikipedia 1400 people and if you look at the leaders of of that they're all communist marxist

00:05:29.360 antifa members i mean they're all people that do not agree with you 1400 people are the ones that are

00:05:38.140 compiling the world's knowledge and they're not like you

00:05:43.300 you feel alone because it's so huge

00:05:48.720 but there are very few people that are doing it tonight on television we're going to go to bernie

00:05:56.180 sanders and i'm going to show you who bernie sanders is surrounding himself with forget everything

00:06:02.100 you think about bernie sanders forget about it what we're going to expose tonight and on monday

00:06:08.580 it's a two-parter is remarkable the people he has surrounded himself with are some of the worst

00:06:18.800 people out there now remember i'm the guy who said hey donald trump he says he surrounds himself with

00:06:26.260 the best but he doesn't steve bannon and pretty much all the people who have caused any of the problems

00:06:32.060 that he got rid of right away those were the people we said this is the real problem look who

00:06:37.540 he's surrounding himself with and he figured that out pretty quickly and got rid of all of those people

00:06:43.860 bernie sanders has worse people around him and there's no chance of these people going away

00:06:53.800 because these are the people that are actually causing the split in the democratic party that no one

00:07:00.600 else will talk about what we're going to show you tonight on television at five o'clock on bernie

00:07:05.160 sanders is more important really for democrats to watch than it is even you because you're not going to

00:07:12.960 vote for bernie sanders i'm not going to vote for bernie sanders but there's going to be a lot of people

00:07:17.300 that do vote for bernie sanders and they will have no idea what he really believes based on who he has put

00:07:26.940 in charge of his policies and his campaign it is a terrifying look but it is the same kind of people

00:07:38.500 it is i i just said to the researchers two days ago as we were looking into this

00:07:43.160 uh they brought me you know the the latest stuff and i said go a step further

00:07:49.540 because you've tracked this back to 2008 i can guarantee you that we're going to find the same

00:07:57.800 people that we were talking about in 2008 as their mentors it's a very small group of people

00:08:07.220 that are trying to tell the masses something that we never have used in america we've never described

00:08:14.660 the american people as the masses but the masses are what is being discussed by many of these

00:08:24.960 democratic socialists what we have to do for the masses

00:08:28.280 and they're forgetting the individual

00:08:32.400 and they do it because they think that it is their arrogance it is their arrogance that will be their

00:08:43.080 undoing there is this cocoon that these marxist socialist progressives live in where they control the

00:08:53.160 intellectual debate and the intellectual neighborhood everybody who owns a house in the intellectual

00:08:59.560 neighborhood all those people they're all on board and they make sure that no one else moves into that

00:09:06.560 neighborhood they also control the media and hollywood and they make sure that no one else i i read an article

00:09:18.080 from cnn uh last night that actually said that the mainstream media looked very different than fox news and they

00:09:28.860 actually put fox news out of the mainstream media which in some ways i agree with however they're more

00:09:39.440 mainstream than cnn more people are watching fox news and more diverse than watching cnn you have liberals

00:09:50.920 watching fox news how many people that are conservative are watching cnn

00:09:57.140 how many of us can even take cnn anymore

00:10:02.040 and they're living in this cocoon where they just protect each other and they grow more and more arrogant

00:10:10.740 because they live truly in an echo chamber now many of us on the right live in an echo chamber too

00:10:17.780 but nowhere near what the elitist left lives in

00:10:23.380 chris cuomo yesterday can we play play the video uh that we played uh yesterday afternoon

00:10:31.980 of the woman the nra spokeswoman who was horribly raped she was on she's been on this program before

00:10:40.000 and she was horribly raped for for two hours

00:10:44.960 she was raped when she went to college and everybody said oh no this is really safe you're

00:10:52.920 going to be fine well she was the first woman to be raped at that particular dorm here's her story

00:10:59.600 listen i was a normal 20 year old college student when i moved into off-campus housing they busted that

00:11:06.060 it was safe not a single incident since it had opened i was the first i woke up in the middle of the

00:11:14.340 night suffocating shut up he said don't say a word for the next two hours i knew i was going to die

00:11:24.060 and there was nothing i could do now i'm a mother of two and if that predator or anyone else tries to

00:11:33.220 harm me or my family they have to come through my firearm first i will never be unarmed or utterly

00:11:40.240 vulnerable ever again the only reason i can say that is because the nra fought for my rights before

00:11:47.200 i ever knew that i needed them i'm the national rifle association of america and i'm freedom's

00:11:54.800 safest place so uh chris cuomo tweets yesterday only in america what the hell does that mean only in

00:12:04.020 america now i can take that as a positive damn right only in america can anyone go out and buy

00:12:10.820 themselves a gun to be able to protect themselves and their family yeah only in america but that's not

00:12:16.900 what he meant only in america now i contend that he never even watched the video he just he just did

00:12:26.480 what everybody does and they see something he saw nra i'm a mother of a predator comes in i'm going to

00:12:35.280 use my firearm he just read the tweet didn't watch the video saw nra and thought oh my gosh look at

00:12:43.700 this only in america well he got hammered yesterday as he should have been hammered but you'll notice

00:12:53.120 this is not going to destroy his career this is not going to even be a blip in his life and usually

00:13:00.960 when you mock rape victims you're destroyed you have some problems going on yeah um but uh not not

00:13:06.720 in this case i mean he you know and if you know anything about chris cuomo which most people don't

00:13:11.020 uh he always doubles down and he believes he's the smartest man in the world so he thinks he can

00:13:17.240 always talk himself out of these situations and he just falls he's just he's sideshow bob

00:13:22.240 walking into rakes over and over and over again everywhere he turns that's chris cuomo right and

00:13:27.580 this is the guy who just last week was defending a woman who said that thing that's growing in a

00:13:34.940 woman's uterus is not a baby he said with her he sided with her so the guy is a complete lunatic

00:13:42.840 lunatic let let's first discuss just that we are now we're now feeling it necessary to defend

00:13:55.440 ourselves to people who have gone mad we are we are no longer at a place to where we're talking about

00:14:06.420 roe versus wade we're talking about arguing with people who say that even until birth that's not a

00:14:15.940 baby what are we doing why do we feel like we've gone insane the world has gone insane you've stood in

00:14:25.900 place which is the right thing to do you've stood in place as everyone else has gone off the crazy cliff

00:14:34.080 and this small number of people happen to have power in the media and in the political organizations

00:14:44.300 and so they are manipulating it to make it feel like you are the one no you're not the one

00:14:51.020 you're not the one they're the handful

00:14:54.260 chris cuomo let me ask you this should we make handgun use safe rare

00:15:07.860 safe and rare should we do that because it's what's the third one stew it's safe rare and legal

00:15:17.680 yeah legal but maybe we should just take handgun use and we should we should make it a woman's choice

00:15:24.940 and women can women can use guns at any time for any reason or should we just should we just make it

00:15:35.920 legal for rape and incest because here was a a rape victim that you supposedly care about you're

00:15:43.900 that's the one you used to say you're fighting for the one that you can never really understand you

00:15:50.140 could never you would never even put yourself how dare you even question someone who is a rape victim

00:15:56.860 and what they decide to do well you just question them so is it your your hatred for children i know

00:16:05.920 you're saying that you you're you're against you know you want more gun control because of the

00:16:11.820 children but wait a minute you're at the same time arguing for the death of children in fact not

00:16:17.840 even identifying children you can just kill that thing five minutes before it's born

00:16:23.560 do you hate children do you hate women because i think maybe you'd be best served if you were consistent

00:16:33.820 it's rape and incest and women women have the right to do with their body whatever they want to do

00:16:41.460 and so they could use a handgun at any time whoever they shoot is not really a person unless they declare them

00:16:51.360 to be a person

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00:18:25.220 uh douglas you're on the glenbeck program welcome douglas are you there i am here yes yes hi

00:18:44.660 yes douglas cloisterman uh a spokesperson for uh christopher cuomo you're a spokesperson yes i

00:18:50.620 hear some of your commentary here uh very disappointed in the way you looked at this

00:18:54.440 incident i've been talking to chris uh since it happened and there were some issues he did

00:19:00.100 write only in america right however you have to remember uh he did not have a lot of space twitter

00:19:04.980 is a short form of communication uh i think there's 270 characters he could use he used there was some

00:19:12.260 confusion dozen or so he used 15 characters right now he usually tweets from the gym um and he also does

00:19:18.160 usually about 15 reps of max uh rack pulls so he may have been confused by that right okay okay

00:19:24.780 all right um i think a lot of times chris tries to uh reveal his softer side in a similar way he

00:19:32.320 he uh he wrote uh i'm sorry for the confusion take this issue uh seriously uh also uh as you know

00:19:39.760 muscles don't stop bullets is what he wrote and it's very true uh you know it's the same way he likes

00:19:45.120 to reveal a little bit of his softer side uh the same way he kind of uh usually uh unbuttons the

00:19:50.620 top two buttons on his shirt while he's broadcasting on cnn right uh revealing just a little bit of his

00:19:55.660 perfectly crafted chest right um i talked to him at the gym yesterday after this went down right he was

00:20:00.580 he was broken up it was uh it's sad uh it was leg day he's doing quads calves and glutes right and it

00:20:07.100 really was a big uh misunderstanding and i went back to him after this and i said you know a few hours

00:20:13.620 later i called him uh and i said you know you know you've had a tough day today and uh he said

00:20:18.140 you know well i'm actually i'm actually at the gym right now i'm working on my planks right up to 44

00:20:22.420 minutes now which is pretty impressive right uh actually um but he said he said our discourse is is

00:20:28.020 like arm day uh you know when you know when you're triceps and you're doing the skull crushers

00:20:31.980 uh he said it's dangerous i know uh it leaves you sore afterwards but it's worth it right i think

00:20:38.020 that's what we needed i don't even know what you're talking about i uh talked to him in that

00:20:42.080 evening and he was obviously not at the gym anymore he was taking a shower at the gym right and and he

00:20:47.040 said we need to wash ourselves of this angst like the suds dripping down my perfectly crafted chest

00:20:52.040 and core right uh and i thought it was you're a spokesperson i don't think this is helping helping

00:20:57.500 his case at all yeah uh you look he said very clearly to me and i want your listeners to hear this

00:21:03.440 we need to inject grace into our discourse in the same way you'd inject anabolic steroids into

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00:22:35.780 uh joined us today pat gray is joining us now from his uh podcast he just are you so glad about that too

00:22:41.680 don't seem like it no not really no no i wanted to be honest you know people ask hey how are you i like

00:22:49.400 to think about it and give an honest answer hey are you glad i'm here that's good you want to tell

00:22:53.400 the truth no no no i'm not uh but uh pat is doing the work you know that really not a lot of americans

00:23:02.200 will do and that is watch the view right so you don't have to right yeah right uh because sometimes

00:23:08.360 you you see some interesting things uh it's very rare but every once in a while something happens

00:23:14.740 like yesterday uh there were a couple of things one of the things that happened was that

00:23:19.540 the girls were edited as they were bashing trump uh here's what happened on on the view yesterday

00:23:26.860 what did he calls him sleepy joe what is that supposed to mean can we pause it for a second

00:23:31.420 right there though let's pause it for a second joy behar doesn't know what the word sleepy means

00:23:36.240 he calls him sleepy joe what does that mean do you think anybody sleeps around her sleepy

00:23:42.680 nobody sleeps around her it's not really complicated though look it up there's there's no such word in

00:23:49.620 the dictionary uh google search turns up nothing i don't know what is sleepy i don't get it anyway

00:23:55.960 there there's more it doesn't matter this is one of his his things he calls people's names call

00:24:02.400 people's names but i i just think people are tired of it they don't care you call people names and stuff

00:24:07.560 well i i mean listen you can get into them to the first edit that's that's second but you know

00:24:17.600 what we're doing we are in that third and they do it one more time too they they edit them four times

00:24:26.580 in that little swearing or something i don't think they were i think one time they swore

00:24:31.300 but most of it was just like trump bashing i think that is now we're sure this was this was an edit or

00:24:40.260 this was a no that's what i thought it was a technical problem but um uh let's see we we we

00:24:47.620 discovered it wasn't a technical problem because of the blurring of the lips uh they they also took

00:24:53.100 the time to blur i think it was joy's lips so you couldn't tell what you were saying i know blah the

00:24:58.500 the whole the whole thing we used to do the uh jeffy cam remember we used to blur jeffy every

00:25:02.860 time he came on the on the air yes wouldn't that be appropriate for joy for joy the joy cam that

00:25:07.200 would bring people joy yeah it would also blur out her name because she's not named properly uh there

00:25:12.500 is no joy where joy is concerned we've we've noticed that before and it's getting worse i think as time

00:25:18.920 goes on joy just seems to be so so when did abc start to edit that's what i'd like to know i don't

00:25:26.660 know why they're doing that i don't know if uh uh there's some directive now for ratings the ratings

00:25:33.940 maybe they know they can't stop these women from saying these things and the ratings are

00:25:38.680 i don't know what maybe it's just they're just editing when joy speaks and whoopee let's just go

00:25:45.020 show yeah you know and and they might consider i don't know rather than editing that takes a lot of

00:25:50.380 effort just take her off the show you ever thought of that can you imagine i mean i've not heard

00:25:56.320 this anywhere and and you imagine if fox news would have dropped my audio while i was talking

00:26:04.060 about obama you imagine what would have been said oh from from the left and the right yeah

00:26:10.800 they probably would have cheered yeah but they would have they would have demand they would

00:26:14.720 have made a big deal out of what was he said what was it say what did he say look at fox news he's

00:26:20.340 even too extreme for fox news what did he say yada yada yada who's making that decision there's

00:26:26.620 a falling out nobody's nobody's talking about this i mean what was it they were saying about

00:26:30.440 trump that was so bad abc had to edit it i don't know wasn't it a long time ago that joy behar

00:26:37.460 supposedly left the view to like go do gigs in the cat skills or something that was a long time

00:26:43.420 something about that how'd you get back on the show was the show been on the whole time like

00:26:47.080 the cat skills the cat skills surrounded abc and demanded they take her back everyone in the cat

00:26:54.060 skills they were like look man we are we're we're bad with bad comedy we're down with bad comedy and

00:27:00.660 old people but this one this is a bridge too far he calls him sleepy job what is that supposed to mean

00:27:07.480 you know it doesn't it doesn't matter this is one of his his things he calls people's names

00:27:12.220 call people's names but i just think people are tired of it they don't let's stop one more time i

00:27:16.960 love the uh the sleepy thing is really a charming part of this that you pointed out it is because

00:27:21.520 number one like she's trying to get a comedy rant started of some sort like she she's got something

00:27:26.940 she wants to get to and the cat skills and the cat skills population are going you see you see

00:27:33.800 that's why we rejected her that's why we gave her back remember the time when she said she was

00:27:39.060 funnier than you yes that may be true now it wasn't at the time it may be did you see uh howard stern

00:27:50.040 last week defend megan yes do we do we happen to have that audio from last week here's here's uh

00:27:56.740 howard stern listen to this yeah i voted for republicans i've endorsed republicans can't think of

00:28:01.560 any of the ground i'm having a hard time right now very nervous but yes i uh listen i feel bad

00:28:06.580 i see you getting yelled at all the time yeah anytime you're feeling overwhelmed let me go

00:28:10.780 give the woman a chance why are you looking at me in front of you chasing archie's in tears

00:28:17.020 he's changed a lot he's changed a lot have you read his book i haven't no yeah i read his book on

00:28:25.480 vacation this new one yeah you did yeah uh and it's it's fascinating now it's a it's a lot of just

00:28:30.940 interviews that he did but the that's what i've heard it was yeah the opening chapter uh about what

00:28:37.280 he's where he is and what's happened to him in the last few years is really remarkable i mean it's a

00:28:44.440 he does discuss it yes the change a total transformation to the point where he says i can't

00:28:50.660 i can't listen to things that i did i can't i can't stand it when people talk i'm embarrassed by it

00:28:57.460 yeah um and he said you know look this is this is what i did and this is why i did it um it was it

00:29:04.980 was really an honest look and an honest look at shame i mean howard stern it it has found shame

00:29:14.540 and it's there was a time when he was pretty shame free completely shame free yeah i mean there there's

00:29:21.660 there's a case to be made that it was the howard stern era i don't want to put it all on him but

00:29:27.300 it was the howard stern era that totally changed us it was it was when howard stern could say whatever

00:29:36.300 he said and there was no real ramification except from the big state and the you know the oppressors

00:29:45.320 and the religious and that was really the beginning of the undoing of of any kind of standards

00:29:52.780 in our in our nation you know uh and you know he was talented and he was successful uh but he

00:30:01.000 as he says now i didn't care i didn't care i was just doing what i was doing and uh boy i can't i it's

00:30:09.620 hard to look at myself in the mirror when i think about those things it's interesting too because you

00:30:14.060 called for people to you know be introspective a few years ago and maybe join you in in looking at

00:30:21.400 what they've done in the past and where they're going in the future he actually did he might be

00:30:26.740 the only one who did yeah but he actually he's been doing it for a while though that's what i think is

00:30:31.380 an interesting thing about the way he did it because you pointed out glenn i think i off the air that he

00:30:35.900 had gone to a bunch of people he had wronged privately and spoken to them and apologized to them not in

00:30:42.260 front of cameras and you know just went to them and talked to them some some most accepted some

00:30:46.520 didn't i believe that he talked to imus you know uh i don't know if he talked to imus i don't think

00:30:52.340 that was in there he did mention imus did he yeah that he was sorry for all the things that he did

00:30:57.240 to imus wow john de bella uh don't think he was named maybe i can't remember um but point is though

00:31:03.940 like you know usually we have these big scandals or these big moments you tweet something bad you're

00:31:07.500 about to get fired you get you know me too'd or whatever the the situation is and at that point

00:31:13.940 you come out publicly and say i'm gonna change i'm gonna make everything right he decided and he

00:31:18.720 didn't do anything uh to the levels of some of those scandals but he decided to kind of try to

00:31:23.280 make things right before telling anyone like he kind of went out and did it all and did all the hard

00:31:27.800 work entirely true he he did have a reason to do it he said no one would talk to him he said no one

00:31:34.760 would come on the show really do interviews with me yeah he said i was down with the same people

00:31:39.920 and he said i couldn't get anybody he said because i didn't care what i used to say to people

00:31:44.700 yeah and that was a part of the charm of the show of course right but he's developed something

00:31:48.260 better oh much better and and totally different yeah and some of his audience rejected it right

00:31:53.560 i i think he had a hard time with some of the really hardcore sure audience that every time

00:31:58.840 he liked it yeah when he bashed people like that every time you make a change on a show yeah you

00:32:03.780 know i mean you you have that situation but i think it's it's interesting that i mean because i

00:32:07.760 think that's the way it usually happens right glenn you talk about this all the time those sort of

00:32:10.820 moments where you have that um tipping point or you know where your life turns like that may have been

00:32:16.180 the catalyst you know like maybe him not getting the guests on was the reason that he kind of

00:32:21.240 thought about these things and decided to try to correct you don't see something wrong with that

00:32:25.420 no you don't think of things when everything is going well you know what i mean there's no reason

00:32:31.620 to to be introspective when everything is going well your height your life is is is traveling on a

00:32:38.380 highway and it's going great places you're like really i should stop and pause and think about what

00:32:44.200 a bad human being i am uh look at the results it's only when things happen to you that you're like

00:32:50.300 well you know geez wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute and what i like about this is

00:32:55.120 it was a real change you know it wasn't like hey i don't do that anymore and you can trust me

00:33:01.340 it's it's now after years of doing it saying the more i thought about it the more disgusted i was by

00:33:10.240 myself that's a pretty big deal it is and that's why we were so surprised when you went on a show when

00:33:16.780 was that was that like four or five years ago has it been that long i don't know i don't know was it

00:33:21.120 that long i was gonna say two and we're actually treated really well and we were all blown away by

00:33:25.640 that i sat down in the chair and he said why do you hate gay people and i was like that was the

00:33:33.020 first question it was something like that yeah and i was like uh well i don't well you'd be out but

00:33:39.100 you're against gay marriage no what no always been for it i'm a libertarian i just i don't think the

00:33:46.600 government has a right in anybody's business when it comes to who do you love who do you marry

00:33:51.820 you know that was a eugenics thing that was that was a that was a don't marry black people thing

00:33:58.380 don't marry inferior people thing that wasn't a uh that wasn't always there that's how marriage

00:34:04.280 licenses start if you don't know that story right i mean they they it was mainly it was a racist thing

00:34:09.300 it was a racist thing it was main it was meant to con for the government trying to control the

00:34:12.640 population in ways it shouldn't been trying to control i mean remember george washington and

00:34:16.900 abraham lincoln both got married without marriage licenses right if it's good enough for them i feel

00:34:22.580 like you're like it's good enough for us it's fine we don't need to license from the government it's

00:34:26.220 not a wedding gift right it's just a way for them to have control over your union correct correct

00:34:31.300 and it and it really became embedded in us when the eugenics uh movement was so big and that's where

00:34:39.020 you got the blood test and you get the blood test now because well we don't want inferiors

00:34:44.260 uh mating with each other that's amazing it's incredible that's incredible and that's a libertarian

00:34:51.400 kind of position and what shocked me was he listened to it he listened to it and somebody asked me just

00:35:01.000 yesterday they wrote to me and said who is the best person that has ever interviewed you on anything

00:35:06.120 and i could only really in print and i could only really think of one i'm sure there's others

00:35:11.240 but uh i think it was like the new york times magazine guide remember and he didn't get a lot

00:35:16.140 of it right but he at least tried he at least tried he came in with one image and he left with another

00:35:24.260 image and he didn't just do a mad lib and and that's what normally people do and and you know howard

00:35:33.820 is now at a place to where he's not doing mad libs he's not going in with i'm going to ask them this

00:35:39.560 and i'm just going to torture them he's now actually curious that's what people i i'm convinced

00:35:47.180 that is why the the media fails that's why our politicians fail because they're not actually

00:35:57.240 curious they're not none of them are willing to go oh no wait a minute i haven't thought of it that way

00:36:03.600 they yeah they don't want to they don't care about that right there there's no nuance there's

00:36:10.440 there's nothing and i think the average person just wants an honest look at history they want

00:36:17.280 an honest look at what's happening they want an honest look at individuals they just don't want to

00:36:23.700 be told everything because we're not the unwashed masses we're the ones that were supposed to be in

00:36:30.260 charge and and whether we know it or not there is something in americans that doesn't happen any

00:36:38.340 other place in the world and it is bred into us in many ways and that is wait a minute wait a minute i

00:36:44.960 i i have rights and we may not know what those rights are but the individual still at this point

00:36:53.060 is the one standing up saying wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute and they just want a fair shake

00:36:58.900 and they just want somebody to be honest authentic and honest and and i applaud howard stern for

00:37:06.740 authentically changing and being honest about it and being a stand-up guy never thought i would say

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00:38:32.700 trust dot com welcome to the program we have andrew mccarthy um andrew is a federal prosecutor and he

00:38:40.780 has done some of the biggest cases in america and i've got a few questions first of all i don't

00:38:46.780 think the media was watching the same press conference with muller that that i saw yesterday

00:38:52.740 um but i've got a few questions for uh for andy and and i i really want to know

00:38:58.620 why we even had this investigation in the first place and what happens next with the democrats

00:39:07.040 this is the glenbeck program so i'm i'm i'm more confused i think than ever before uh on

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00:39:50.840 he is now a contributing editor for national review senior fellow at the national review institute

00:39:57.020 and can answer what the hell is happening in one minute

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00:41:40.980 contributing editor national review uh and you can find him at uh andrew mccarthy.com

00:41:58.940 uh and he is a former federal prosecutor and uh a good friend and a good friend of the program

00:42:05.140 what the hell happened yesterday and what what was what did what did a rational person take away

00:42:14.420 from that press conference yesterday what were we supposed to learn well i think glenn that the

00:42:20.900 upshot of it is that muller wanted it understood that he was transmitting his obstruction information

00:42:31.380 to congress with the understanding that it's for congress to deal with presidential misconduct

00:42:38.480 i mean i think to cut to the chase that's the bottom line and i've always thought it's easier to

00:42:47.120 look at this especially for for the non-lawyer i can i can just imagine how how people's heads spin but

00:42:54.180 um the thing to bear in mind with this is that congress does not need a prosecutable

00:43:02.080 case felony offense in order to impeach right it needs misconduct that what the framers idea would

00:43:11.120 have been would be uh an abuse of power an egregious uh abuse of the public trust uh gerald ford i think

00:43:19.440 was was was more cynical but maybe more accurate uh in 1970 when he was uh the minority leader of the

00:43:26.660 house trying to impeach uh justice william o douglas and he said an impeachable offense is anything

00:43:32.880 that the house of representatives decides it is in a given moment in history um and so what i what i

00:43:40.900 think has gone on here all along is muller has taken his writ which was not a traditional prosecutor's

00:43:49.900 writ even though it was supposed to be under the regulations he was really given a counterintelligence

00:43:55.360 investigation not a criminal investigation and even though that distinction i think sometimes makes

00:44:01.720 people's eyes glaze over it's important because counterintelligence is really just an information

00:44:07.580 gathering exercise it's not necessarily geared toward building a criminal case so in the normal

00:44:15.080 criminal case or the normal situation there would be a basis to believe a crime got committed

00:44:21.380 and then you assign a prosecutor here what they did was they used the russia interference in the

00:44:29.240 election as a pretext for assigning a prosecutor a counterintelligence investigation

00:44:36.860 which effectively unleashed him to look for a crime under circumstances where there was no

00:44:44.880 factual basis to believe a crime had been committed so so so and andy help me out on this

00:44:52.040 why did the department of justice lead this if they had no way to charge the president with anything

00:45:02.100 glenn i think there's two different things here that that muller has conflated and he's completely

00:45:09.200 wrong about this um there's two different decisions that have to be made one is do we have enough

00:45:16.440 evidence to prosecute and secondly uh assuming the answer to the first question is yes do we invoke

00:45:25.680 the justice department guidance that says a sitting president may not be indicted the first decision

00:45:34.460 doesn't have anything really to do with the second decision they're they're factually distinct and the

00:45:41.740 first decision decision on the sufficiency of the evidence is the decision that's supposed to be made by the

00:45:48.320 prosecutor who's assigned to the case so muller's job here all this nonsense he talks about uh how we can't

00:45:56.280 you know because the justice department can't charge obviously that should not have entered into our minds

00:46:02.840 that's ridiculous uh he has to make a call about whether there's a case or not and then if it turns out

00:46:10.300 that he thinks that there is a case which means there is evidence that a prosecutor believes a rational

00:46:17.700 jury could convict the accused on beyond a reasonable doubt then it's up to the justice department as an

00:46:24.380 institution to decide whether to invoke the guidance that says a sitting a sitting president can't be

00:46:32.080 indicted but there's no reason to use that as a basis or a rationale for not making the decision

00:46:40.200 about whether there's a case or not so do you think he was he wanted the president to be impeached and so

00:46:47.120 he just left that door open because he couldn't make a case uh and so he left that door open knowing that

00:46:57.160 impeachment is whatever the congress can convince the american people is bad uh we can impeach on

00:47:04.900 yeah glenn i think this is i think they figured out this is muller and his staff that this was the

00:47:12.680 surest way to get their evidence to the congress and what i mean by that is if muller had decided that

00:47:22.480 there was a uh there was an obstruction case then he would have recommended that to the attorney

00:47:31.100 general bar now by the time this came around and bar was the attorney general muller had to know

00:47:40.440 that the theory under which he was investigating obstruction was different and not going to be

00:47:48.480 acceptable to the justice department under bar because bar has a very different idea and i think

00:47:54.160 it's the correct idea but that's neither here nor there that they have different ideas about

00:47:59.020 what obstruction is muller was investigating it on a much looser theory and i think that if he had

00:48:07.060 recommended charges then he would have had trouble getting that report out the door because then there

00:48:13.220 would have been a big justice department to do over whether he had applied the right legal standard

00:48:19.020 or not instead what he did curiously but i think probably in the end cleverly was to say

00:48:27.240 i've got to decide um and here's what i'm going to do i'm just going to give you the evidence on both

00:48:35.660 sides of the question and not make a decision and i'll rely for doing that on the justice department

00:48:42.780 guidance that says you can't indict a sitting president anyway and that way he managed to get

00:48:49.400 his evidence out the door whereas i think if he had recommended a charge that this would have all

00:48:55.140 gone very differently so now what because last night what i heard two things uh one uh i uh i respect

00:49:06.160 the attorney general a bar is clean and good with me i think he did the right thing that's not what

00:49:11.820 the media was reporting did i miss something on that one no i don't think so i think um the the big

00:49:20.920 area of controversy that the media has focused on is that bar testified that at least three times

00:49:30.240 emphatically muller told him that his decision not to make a decision on uh obstruction was not

00:49:39.260 because of the office of legal counsel guidance that you can indict a sitting president and then

00:49:45.240 lo and behold if you look at the report that is exactly the reason that he relies on so the question

00:49:51.220 the the argument was that bar had misled everyone along these lines and i think muller is conceding

00:49:59.160 that he did say to bar what bar contends that is that the olc guidance wasn't the reason now

00:50:05.900 what i think people are missing that we should focus on is the timeline here's what i think

00:50:12.160 happened here glenn the first time that they meet after bar is confirmed is march 5th and it's at that

00:50:19.780 meeting that muller tells bar i'm not going to decide on the obstruction bar asks him is that because of

00:50:27.420 the olc guidance he says no and then bar says to him well what's the reason and he says we're still

00:50:33.540 formulating our reason and then two and a half weeks later he files his report and he uses the

00:50:40.880 olc guidance as the reason so i think what happened here is muller just decided not to decide with

00:50:47.480 rationale to be filled in later and as they as it got down to the end they decided to rely on the olc

00:50:54.180 guidance so i think maybe on march 5th he didn't realize that that was where he was coming out but by

00:50:59.480 the time he filed the report on march 22nd that was what he relied on um the the other thing is i

00:51:07.700 i got gathered that what he was saying was look all of the evidence that you need to impeach

00:51:14.980 and the only evidence that we could find is in the report you have it all so don't come to me and ask

00:51:21.180 and and don't do any you have to decide this is impeachable or not and i've read through the lines

00:51:29.320 that he was thinking that it was uh and and i'll testify but only to those things that are in the

00:51:35.220 report because that's all there is do i have that right you you do and i thought that was a but you

00:51:41.240 know i don't want to uh cast aspersions unnecessarily at muller i like to just try to

00:51:47.060 to keep this on the issues yes but i thought that was very presumptuous and egomaniacal of him i must

00:51:52.760 say in what way if he were well can you imagine i'm in front of a court of appeals making a legal

00:51:59.080 argument and a judge has the temerity to ask me mr mccarthy what about this argument and i say hey

00:52:04.580 look i wrote a brief go read it um you know be done with you um you don't get to do that the witness

00:52:12.420 doesn't get to decide uh what questions he can be asked muller doesn't get to decide well i've

00:52:18.100 already given you my report i have nothing else to say um you know you get subpoenaed you come into

00:52:23.340 the tribunal whether it's congress or a court and they'll decide what they're going to ask you and

00:52:28.020 what you get have a right to answer and not answer now he's trying to fend off testifying it's it's

00:52:34.460 abundantly clear that he doesn't want to testify because if he did they would have been delighted to

00:52:39.780 have him right he would have he would have testified already and i think jerry nadler is going to be

00:52:46.400 savvy enough to realize that muller gave him as much yes forget from we were losing we've just lost

00:52:58.620 you you said jerry nadler is is savvy enough to what to not break to not press this issue of bringing

00:53:06.600 muller in to testify much out of muller as he's ever going to get from that statement right okay

00:53:14.940 all right so i want to ask you um now about what happens next and and so if you can hang on we'll try

00:53:20.800 to fix the connection as well uh we'll take one minute and then we'll be back with andrew mccarthy

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00:54:51.740 so andy now we now what he's done is he said hey it's all in there there's nothing hidden we put

00:55:14.160 everything that we have in the report you know it uh so don't call me because i had nothing else to

00:55:21.260 offer uh it's up to you all right what if they decide to go through with this do they do hearings

00:55:32.820 in the house or do they just have to vote and say well there's there's the evidence and uh we're going

00:55:39.740 to impeach and then that pushes it to the center to the senate what should happen and what do you

00:55:46.400 think is going to happen glenn they can do if they want to proceed with impeachment what that ultimately

00:55:54.600 requires is a majority vote a simple majority vote in the house on articles of impeachment and then it

00:56:01.440 would be referred to the senate for an impeachment trial where you would need a two-thirds super

00:56:06.820 majority to remove the president the need to get the super majority is usually what stops them from

00:56:14.600 seeking impeachment in the first place in the house if you you know if you know it'll be futile

00:56:19.560 procedurally what should happen is probably one of two things either they could just proceed through

00:56:26.520 the judiciary committee or they could convene a special impeachment committee but the goal would be

00:56:34.180 for such a committee uh to hold hearings and specific articles of impeachment and then the

00:56:42.900 articles would be voted in the committee and if they got out of committee they'd be referred to the

00:56:47.360 whole so why wouldn't we have started there i mean if if you can't indict a sitting president

00:56:54.480 and this whole thing is about donald trump i contend this whole thing should have been about

00:56:58.720 russia but if this whole thing was about donald trump why didn't the doj take the russia side

00:57:05.120 and the congress uh when they got power immediately said you know what muller is is not important

00:57:12.140 anyway we want to look into it why why wouldn't they go ahead i i think this is a broader conversation

00:57:19.480 about congress not functioning anymore uh and delegating most of its authorities so that you know

00:57:28.160 its members can do their real job which is to go on cable television evidently right um but but

00:57:34.520 basically you're right this is what should happen um and i think in modern times though congress also

00:57:42.980 to try to be fair to them they realize that federal prosecutors have ways of compelling

00:57:49.880 uh that are more effective than congresses and uh therefore prefer to rely on a criminal investigation

00:58:01.280 it's not a it's not really um a perfect it's a far from perfect way to do it because

00:58:07.840 a federal prosecutor's inquiry is very different from what congress needs to find for impeachable

00:58:15.200 offenses but they do like to rely on the prosecutor to do the investigation and i i guess that's really

00:58:23.960 why they've relied on muller why they don't the other thing glenn is this is not a a one-way street

00:58:31.660 here uh impeachment's a political process and i think they may see that there's a lot of people in

00:58:40.420 the country who a are just tired of this and b don't think the country should be put through an

00:58:49.140 impeachment inquiry unless it's a really really serious offense that everybody can agree is serious

00:58:55.920 enough to at least warrant that kind of consideration i have to tell you if he would have found anything

00:59:00.080 with russia i think the story would be different um but with what they have i don't think the american

00:59:08.940 people the democrats included have the stomach for it except for the you know the extremes uh and

00:59:17.400 i i mean i kind of actually hope that they do go for it because i think this is going to backfire on

00:59:23.620 them i mean i'm talking just politically speaking i think this would backfire on them big time yeah i

00:59:30.240 think that's right and i i look at it as now i'm a i'm a law guy i'm not a political guy yeah right

00:59:36.440 right great assault it's worse but to me you know if you don't like trump then i think the argument

00:59:46.000 that you make is that he acts inappropriately and beneath the dignity of the office and you can make

00:59:53.040 that in a offensive aggressive way whereas if you have to argue this in terms of impeachment

01:00:00.620 and whether he should be removed over obstruction now you're on the defensive because the question

01:00:06.020 is there's all this stuff that's inappropriate we can all agree that a lot of this stuff should

01:00:11.180 not be done by a president but whether it whether it rises to the level of a crime

01:00:15.980 is a real different question right especially this close to an election just get somebody else elected

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01:02:48.880 and worse uh and we found the worse that's right at the top of his campaign uh jason joins us now

01:02:57.400 jason's our head researcher uh and has been working on this now for weeks uh and what have you found

01:03:03.180 jason yeah when we first started looking at this i was like everyone knows pretty much about bernie

01:03:07.420 sanders crazy they all already know about what he stands for he's a socialist all that you know all

01:03:11.700 that so we concentrate on the people that are surrounding him and that's something that you did

01:03:16.260 very effectively when the obama administration like all these people around i'm like what are

01:03:20.280 they really about so i concentrated on that and i was like oh my gosh starting from the very top

01:03:24.980 all the way down and shows you've done in the past about top down bottom up mobilizing you know foot

01:03:30.320 soldiers this is pretty much what they've based their campaign on when you hear about some of

01:03:35.640 these people like what they how they cut their teeth in the in the very beginning how they became

01:03:40.660 activists socialists marxists islamists islamists blatant anti-semites i'm like i don't know i hope

01:03:49.880 the sand i hope bernie sanders watches this show because i knows i knows he's i he's he's jewish i i i i

01:03:56.740 i have a hard time believing that he would allow some of these people into his campaign if he really

01:04:02.520 knows i don't know but when you hear about the guy that we talk we focus on today he gets his own show

01:04:08.300 today um it's just one guy he's the head of his campaign right the head of his campaign yeah head

01:04:13.920 of his campaign it's one guy whose name you've probably never heard of you might know the things

01:04:19.800 that he's been involved with um and uh and he's a really really frightening kind of guy and it's it's

01:04:28.960 almost unbelievable but when when you break it down today you'll you'll see that wow like this the ties

01:04:35.800 this person has you would think immediately would lock him out of any of the things he's ever done

01:04:40.240 but he's he's been at the the peak he's been at the pinnacle of the top you know establishment

01:04:45.300 democrat you know uh leaders and power players nancy pelosi harry reid um he also strangely uh he

01:04:52.260 was at center for american progress um and he strangely uh took on hillary clinton uh early on

01:05:01.460 and everybody was like what are you what are you doing man and now only now does it start to make

01:05:07.620 sense right and there that's that's a really very weird split but that split now is starting to leak

01:05:14.140 out and and that little the war going on in the democrat we've already seen like you know some

01:05:18.020 of the freshman congressmen coming out against nancy pelosi criticizing obama other people that

01:05:22.080 are in the establishment but now as you'll see later tonight that we're kind of tracing this to like

01:05:28.200 one of these moments and then it escalated in another watershed moment where more and more people

01:05:33.300 were like what is this guy doing like he was our guy this was our like our this probably could have

01:05:39.260 been someone that we send you know to try to get elected one day because he this is our golden boy

01:05:44.060 he's our guy but then he privately flipped he flipped on him and went radical and we'll show

01:05:51.340 you later tonight that you know we've got leaked emails that show that the establishment are like

01:05:56.660 freaking out big time like what in the heck like what is going on what is this guy doing you'll see

01:06:02.800 those emails later tonight but there is a very real splintering going on right now there's a war and

01:06:09.960 these these are not the people that you want to go to war with bernie sanders is people that are on

01:06:13.780 his campaign you don't want to go to war with them they specialize specialize in the type of

01:06:18.500 community activism quote-unquote that you kind of saw in the obama campaign like occupy wall street

01:06:23.540 um you know we're gonna get to her next week uh yes that's monday yeah there's there's a the

01:06:30.180 you know how occupy wall street was leaderless you know this is just spontaneous grassroots leaderless

01:06:36.400 uh no i don't think so in fact i think we found the leader uh and the leader now works for uh bernie

01:06:44.380 sanders and the evidence is pretty darn compelling if you that's their thing leaderless decentralized

01:06:53.060 like you'll hear you hear that even about antifa nowadays oh we don't know what to do about them

01:06:57.020 you know they're just it's grassroots or leaderless they just come out all on their own

01:06:59.880 really because i've kind of found a video where they sent this one person to speak on behalf of

01:07:06.940 their entire group and organization in a foreign country wait until you see this and which foreign

01:07:13.620 country um this should be seen by every democrat yes absolutely um the democratic socialists the

01:07:22.620 communists the islamists are working together and they are working together in the bernie sanders

01:07:29.540 campaign and they are working to destroy first the democratic party as anyone who is a normal

01:07:37.480 citizen knows the democratic party they are destroying it uh and this is not something that

01:07:44.480 republicans or independents should be cheering for oh good destroy the democratic party because

01:07:50.080 they'll replace the democratic party and they are very very dangerous very dangerous uh it's a

01:07:59.440 it's a strong look at bernie sanders show me your friends and i'll show you your future uh part one

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01:08:49.200 democrats really are and the thing that nobody on the left wants to talk about the real war inside

01:08:58.180 the democratic party and who's leading it it's not bernie sanders bernie sanders i think is a vehicle

01:09:06.420 he's he is he is in many ways using them but they are using him as well he is a vehicle for

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01:11:00.200 i sat down with um good morning america uh i don't know about two months ago um and they wanted

01:11:07.140 to do a uh conversation with me on faith and the role that faith plays in my life and uh my first

01:11:15.120 response was not a chance uh but then i was told who the reporter was uh and it's paula ferris and

01:11:24.520 she is somebody who is really truly guided by faith and she convinced somehow another good morning

01:11:30.020 america and abc to do a series on faith where she just goes and has honest conversations about

01:11:35.400 people who who you know believe in god and have faith and she's a big believer uh and it was a

01:11:42.880 fascinating conversation um uh it just came out uh and you can find it a good morning america i tweeted

01:11:50.740 it i think last night or we're gonna put it up at glenbeck.com uh today but if you're interested in

01:11:57.400 um the journey of faith and what it all means and uh and and and how you get there uh join us

01:12:09.620 uh on that it's a podcast uh last about i think it's an hour uh and uh and she's very she's she's a

01:12:17.280 wonderful wonderful person i really liked her um were you here for that stew no i was not yeah i

01:12:24.080 remember you being complimentary of the interview though yeah she's she's really nice and you know

01:12:28.120 they made some edits and things so i don't think it's exactly you know exactly right but it's i mean

01:12:33.080 it's close and they tried and it was i mean she's great uh so it's uh journeys of faith with paula

01:12:39.100 ferris wherever you listen to your podcasts uh or we'll we'll post the um uh the good morning

01:12:45.720 america link as well at glenbeck.com but well worth listening to did you talk about your hateful

01:12:50.840 belief that baby should live i know i didn't get into that i hope you got into that because

01:12:55.400 we all know that babies should not be allowed to live well they're not really babies and they're

01:13:00.060 not babies i mean you know sure they might turn into babies someday but they might turn into a

01:13:04.780 mushroom we don't know right you don't know what's growing where do you think those creatures in

01:13:08.460 super mario brothers came from right right they are little walking mushrooms it could be a little

01:13:13.460 walking i still have not recognized any of my children as children oh good yeah as long as

01:13:18.740 you don't recognize them you can do whatever you want with them right um i was amazed to see the

01:13:22.620 latest in this slew of new abortion laws that are pretty restrictive um not as restrictive as they

01:13:29.380 should be but restrictive nonetheless sometimes uh the latest one is louisiana six weeks they're saying

01:13:35.260 basically and i love this one where they're like they don't even know if they're pregnant yet

01:13:38.700 i was like well i mean like this is one thing i've always talked about with the

01:13:43.680 with the theoretical abortion argument like let's just say i think in a sane society if one side was

01:13:49.200 going to be pro-abortion and one side was going to be anti-abortion right the side that was pro-abortion

01:13:54.600 would be arguing simply just for the morning after pill right so like if you made a mistake

01:14:01.340 and you don't know what's going on yet we don't even know if you're pregnant yet you take this pill

01:14:07.640 and it gets rid of it and we'll never even know what what the situation was right like i'm not saying

01:14:14.460 that's a good argument but at least it's a like you could see a sane part of that at some level like

01:14:19.960 that should be the strong left-wing position here right right like you're just like look you know

01:14:24.720 six weeks is a good example of this there's a heartbeat starting at six weeks if you can't you know

01:14:30.360 if you're worried about being pregnant you have six weeks to do it um you know you have multiple

01:14:37.100 options in that period to do so right and you and people like well they don't even know they're

01:14:41.000 pregnant well if they want to get an abortion and they're worried about pregnancy then you kind of go

01:14:44.980 and you check right like that's what you're gonna have to do and it's really not about you not knowing

01:14:50.760 if you're pregnant it's it's about whether you're you know whether people are starting to pick out

01:14:56.500 shoes and a new crib right you know exactly whether that's a you know when we're talking

01:15:03.200 about the next day some people say it starts at conception some people say heartbeat some people

01:15:09.160 you know whatever whatever but you know it's six weeks you know you you gotta figure out what what's

01:15:15.960 going on and it's we know it's not a baby yeah i mean we don't i shouldn't say that we we know that

01:15:21.680 it's not breathing it's not and it's not thinking and it's not feeling yet that we know of so but

01:15:30.300 that's not even the normal you know republican viewpoint right most states are going for 20

01:15:35.440 weeks and if you can't make a decision in five months whether you want to abort your kid or not

01:15:42.560 i mean i are we not being we're not that's a legitimately wide window you're gonna know you're

01:15:50.080 pregnant by five months in almost every single case you got a nice window to make that call

01:15:55.980 okay these are not that is not a restrictive policy yet it's act you act it's it's like it's

01:16:02.280 like handmaid's tale they act as if you're from directly from handmaid's tale if you want to stop

01:16:06.040 only five months to make your decision more than half the pregnancy sorry you know and that's like

01:16:11.540 crazy that's a crazy thing um the new one in in uh louisiana is is interesting because louisiana is one

01:16:18.760 of the only places in america these days where you can find a hell of a lot of real pro-life

01:16:25.820 democrats including the governor who is actually signing this who's a democrat and is like yeah

01:16:31.820 i'm in on this one in fact it was proposed by a democrat there have been multiple bills over the

01:16:36.540 past few years that have been proposed by democrats that have been restrictive on abortion

01:16:41.260 um uh in 2006 a democratic state senator sponsored a trigger law and these the way this is happening on

01:16:48.600 both sides which is kind of an interesting legal development in that states are passing bills that

01:16:54.560 will trigger if roe versus wade gets overturned so if roe versus wade gets overturned places like

01:17:00.140 vermont will automatically have abortion in their constitution all set and the opposite happening in

01:17:06.500 louisiana it's automatically banned if roe versus wade gets overturned which is interesting because you

01:17:10.640 kind of see the stupid scare tactics of the roe versus wade thing in that you're going to have

01:17:15.020 more than half of the country almost definitely having abortion even if they do overturn roe versus

01:17:20.760 wade they'd have to do something on top of that that would go much further before this would go away

01:17:26.160 and yes would it be potentially less convenient for you to not let your baby live i know i know we're

01:17:31.400 asking a lot here you might even have to drive you know it could be 45 solid minutes i mean like i get

01:17:38.420 that there would be it would be more restrictive and they're just not interested in even talking

01:17:43.300 about any sort of restriction on abortion they want it to go all the way to birth and at times you've

01:17:47.900 seen over the past few months after birth but it's interesting to see that like there is still a large

01:17:52.980 group of people who are democrats people who are fighting for things like obamacare people who are

01:17:58.100 fighting for things uh that i am not at all comfortable with when it comes to policy

01:18:02.280 uh you know medicaid expansion medicare expansion all these big government programs at the same time

01:18:09.180 pro-life in big time ways i mean it was not a close vote if i see the vote here uh 79 to 23

01:18:16.440 uh in the uh in the those are the democrats that need to watch this tonight about bernie sanders

01:18:23.500 ah yeah because if you're if you're somebody who's like look i'm not with the crazies

01:18:27.680 you need to see this you need to see this about bernie sanders tonight and monday only on the blaze

01:18:33.900 tv five o'clock you don't want to miss it this is the glenbeck program we've got to do something

01:18:44.640 about climate change we if it will just save one child let me forget about abortion uh it will just

01:18:52.020 if it'll just save one child isn't it worth it well uh no probably not the green new deal the

01:18:59.140 details uh an economic disaster that would hurt every american that's according to a guy who

01:19:06.640 actually has some authority when he speaks about climate change he joins us next

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01:20:48.240 so at the website weatherbell.com uh joe bastardi uh is uh is there and he is the chief meteorologist

01:21:08.520 for weather bell he is the author of the climate chronicles he is a guy who it was wildly wildly

01:21:16.820 uh accredited and and and wildly um just one of the one of the most quoted and one of the best

01:21:24.220 weather guys and meteorologists uh that we had in the country until climate change then of course when

01:21:32.520 he went wait a minute i i actually do this for a living i am a scientist and none of this works

01:21:38.080 that's when uh he started to find himself in hot water he is still on the same bandwagon saying uh

01:21:46.940 you know this green new deal this is gonna kill america and just wreak havoc and hurt every american

01:21:55.020 we uh have joe joining us now hi joe how are you uh very well thanks for having me i've always wanted to

01:22:02.380 uh chit chat with you we've done it a couple times but yeah time a little bit longer um you um uh you

01:22:09.220 have looked into the uh the green new deal and it how long did it take you to figure out this has

01:22:17.080 nothing to do with climate well you know i wrote the book on that for those of you i always tell

01:22:23.480 people go look at the book and if you don't like it then on a cold winter night you can throw it in the

01:22:27.860 fireplace and it'll help you eat your house because you want to make sure that you you know get that

01:22:31.820 but and book burning can be popular today i'm sure mine is but but but here's in 2015 when the

01:22:41.160 former epa administrator gina mccarthy was testifying before congress she agreed with the idea that the

01:22:50.080 proposals being made would only save 0.01 celsius over 30 years but she said the real benefits are that

01:23:00.140 we're going to show the planet what you're supposed to do now i'm sitting here going well look america's

01:23:05.540 the most prosperous uh country in the world greatest experiment in freedom if the rest of the planet hasn't

01:23:12.720 followed us there why are they going to sit there and start following us now right it doesn't make sense

01:23:18.800 well let me let me put this in perspective for you because perspective and see the problem is

01:23:24.440 that my father who's a meteorologist graduated out of texas a&m in 65 i always go down to texas

01:23:30.520 but in any case he taught me that the foundation you stand on today was built yesterday to reach for

01:23:38.600 tomorrow and so when you look back at the weather and what the weather and climate has done not only in

01:23:44.620 this country but the entire world you sit there and it's almost as if it's a shooting fish in a

01:23:49.940 barrel when these people bring oh this is the worst ever you know and that that's one of the the biggest

01:23:54.920 things that i rely on looking at patterns in the past you know i i i tell my tell people i don't have

01:24:02.480 any life except my good lord above my family weather and penn state wrestling that's about all i have

01:24:08.540 so most of the time it's with wrestling but listen to this the u.s is only is currently only responsible

01:24:15.540 for 15 percent of the man-made co2 15 percent mankind is responsible for 0.01 percent of that

01:24:25.260 so let's do the math it means that the u.s contribution to the co co2 totally atmosphere

01:24:31.160 is 0.00015 of the atmosphere and what's the what's the green new deal solution destroy the

01:24:39.420 american economy i mean really because we all know that energy is the lifeline of our economy now i'm

01:24:47.320 not against any energy and as a matter of fact my company we we develop products for wind and solar

01:24:53.760 to make those forecasts more accurate because you know we had a situation in texas glenn for instance i

01:24:59.400 guess this is 2011 where you had a big freezing rainstorm in west texas where the wind turbines

01:25:04.700 are and you know you needed heat for dallas and houston and the wind turbines can't uh can't turn

01:25:11.120 well if if a power company knows that there's that threat four or five days away they may acquire

01:25:17.620 energy from another power company that's not having that kind of way so that this is what i do i have

01:25:22.700 nothing against alternative energy and this argument to me is not an argument like for instance

01:25:28.980 i know and understand the other side of the argument and i keep telling people on my side of the

01:25:35.520 argument until such a time that the planet actually starts to cool they have every right in the world

01:25:41.920 and you should be open-minded what's going on but here's here's the big thing the total picture if you

01:25:48.500 look at the geological history of the earth the it's the totality of the journey not six seconds out of

01:25:55.520 an 80 80 year old man's life which is what the last 40 years has been you think about that stuff you

01:26:01.640 look back you think about the sun the oceans stochastic events the very design of the system

01:26:07.520 and that gets a mad because it means that uh i believe in god very very strongly uh so what happens

01:26:13.840 is you look at those things and you say well wait a minute why is this the first time in known history

01:26:21.260 that man is wrecking the climate now let me just say one more thing because i i'm open-minded

01:26:26.460 and i realize this is your show if i could have wrestled the way i talk i would have been a national

01:26:31.120 champ but listen what happens is this what happens is this if they are correct it's very seductive

01:26:38.860 because if you're the guy that found out that co2 was a climate control knob you're like galileo for

01:26:45.960 goodness sakes so i and how do you after 30 see i'm very sympathetic uh empathetic sympathetic

01:26:52.100 whatever that word is it's got too too many syllables for me but what happens is if you've

01:26:57.460 been doing this for 30 years you now own it it becomes your life and if it becomes your life what

01:27:03.980 happens if someone attacks your idea they're attacking your life you're and and you know there's

01:27:08.420 also a lot of people on the other side that are reaching for the higher plane so when you look at

01:27:13.480 that i try to i try to uh tell people i i try to be the dumbest man in the room because the dumbest man

01:27:20.020 in the room if you're hungry is going to find the food right so you look everywhere if you're the

01:27:25.140 smartest guy in the room and all you're doing is looking at one thing you're not going to see the

01:27:31.120 very things that challenge you that you need to perfect your arguments and so that's the way i am i i

01:27:37.100 realized a long time ago that the weather is an infinite magic uh majestic system that and the

01:27:44.840 more i learn about the field the less i know about it in the totality of it there's a book out there

01:27:51.740 called the half-life of facts about how fast knowledge is expanding and when you look at those

01:27:57.940 things it gives you a perspective of humility and understanding it's sorry you're not controlling

01:28:04.400 the whole shooting match so joe i just read a story um last week of a new um wood um is what how they

01:28:14.520 described it but it it's a it's it's a new kind of wood that uh if we clad our homes in this uh and

01:28:24.700 it's man-made wood it it will save us 50 to 80 percent on our electricity bills uh because it is such a

01:28:33.860 good insulator i i mean i just don't understand how if you really care about the environment you

01:28:41.060 should be a vegan b for nuclear power plants and you should be looking to the the free market system

01:28:49.620 because it's the free market system that is developing all of these things everything the

01:28:54.320 government has tried to do fails solyndra was pretty good yeah well that's that's but but that's

01:29:01.260 the thing that makes me you know in the book most of for instance is a chapter in there called the

01:29:06.420 weaponization of the weather and that was that was put out a year ago saying this is what's going to

01:29:11.640 happen every single event is going to be like that because when you look at it the scientific argument

01:29:17.980 is the same argument who's better texas or texas a&m and football right that's it lasts about 10 minutes

01:29:24.660 and then you move on but what happens is this and this is why i i said that the book is a love story

01:29:31.940 because what i have loved since i was three years old i mean i i remember my parents tell me i was

01:29:38.640 three i used to sneak outside lie on my back and stare at the sun through the clouds i almost burn

01:29:43.640 my retinas out that's how fascinated i was with the weather from being a little kid so when you see

01:29:50.140 this dragged through the mud and you see everybody you know where were you when you know i was 15

01:29:56.480 years old crying because we missed a snowstorm in atlantic city for instance you weren't anywhere

01:30:01.240 to be found and what are the one of the other things that gets me is that they come out after

01:30:06.540 the fact now glenn you've been down there for a while you guys been down there for a while you know

01:30:11.120 after 2012 the texas knew a lot of people say oh this is the beginning of a new dust bowl the new

01:30:18.300 perma drought right because you had three straight years of horror and it was just like 52 through

01:30:23.480 54 which i know about because growing up down at texas a&m i know about the junction boys and how

01:30:29.420 bad the weather was in 52 53 54 and like clockwork four years later it turned around then and it turned

01:30:37.040 around now so i'm seeing stuff i guess it was usa today had today well this is a sign of climate change

01:30:42.500 all the wet weather well what answer don't you own if it's snow cheese in dallas on new year's

01:30:48.160 that's climate change too so this is what's going on they wait till after the fact and say

01:30:54.040 see that and you know in in the weather and forecasting and in the private sector what

01:30:59.500 weather bell does we have to tell people the why before the what and hit the forecast because you

01:31:06.120 want to know something national weather service is great there's 1700 private companies out there

01:31:11.300 by guys a real real sharp people and if you're not right you're not going to get paid so i use

01:31:18.700 everything i have at my disposal including understanding and knowing the past to project

01:31:25.220 into the future and that's not what i'm seeing on the other side i see a climatologist who say well

01:31:30.300 this is a sign of this or this is a sign of that well why didn't you tell me this was going to happen

01:31:34.620 back in february right right you take you take what's going on now the reason we have tornadoes

01:31:39.300 so many tornadoes is because it's so cold across much of the country 08 2011 and this year with

01:31:46.120 three three coldest mays in the northern plains and back into the southwest that we've recorded

01:31:51.540 in the last 15 years well guess where the tornado spikes are well if you get a cold may you're

01:31:57.080 naturally getting warmer air coming out of the gulf of mexico you're going to get big fights going on

01:32:01.180 and that's what you've got but that's not that's not because it's just warm everywhere last may was

01:32:05.800 warm all over the united states and we had a record low amount of tornadoes in the month of

01:32:10.860 may as a matter of fact folks there is ample reason to believe that the greening of the planet

01:32:17.080 which is occurring and dr will happer talks about this all the time that we're basically coming out

01:32:22.740 of a co2 drought right plants grow better at four times the amount of co2 in the air what is the

01:32:29.240 synergistic relationship between animal and plant since animals exhale 100 times more co2 than they

01:32:36.020 inhale and plants then take that and grow from it so what we're coming out of that so the demonization

01:32:43.000 of co2 or for instance guys what's the average temperature of the planet what's the what's the

01:32:48.920 perfect temperature of the planet i mean you know they say hottest year ever well wait a minute it's

01:32:53.740 only the the mean temperature is 57 and a half 58 degrees how's that hot right what if it's 58.5 what

01:33:00.100 does that mean for dallas oh it it doesn't mean that dallas is going to be 115 degrees every day

01:33:06.020 right so it's back and forth and natural joe bastardi is his name and he is the author of the new book

01:33:13.380 the climate chronicles been out for a while really good climate chronicles uh if you if you want if you

01:33:20.700 want the facts on on the green new deal on what climate change really is what this is all about

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01:36:11.160 one of the things that i think is important that joe was talking about is we're in the middle of this

01:36:26.740 you know kind of hyped up period of tornadoes it's done some real damage this year and this is what the

01:36:35.060 left and people who want you to believe that you need to give them a few trillion dollars to deal with

01:36:40.560 global warming i mean john delaney is one of the candidates who's running for the democrats uh you

01:36:45.320 don't know that because he said zero percent in almost every poll but he's been running since i

01:36:49.800 think july 2017 uh which is a long time especially to have zero zero percent i think he has one or two

01:36:58.040 percent in iowa though to be fair uh he's former congressman and he's running as a moderate he's

01:37:02.560 basically saying i you know this is me i'm a moderate um he introduced a four trillion dollar

01:37:08.740 global warming plan this is a moderate we're talking about supposedly and it's amazing because

01:37:15.260 you see the i think really dark exercise of exploiting the deaths of people killed in natural

01:37:24.420 disasters for political purposes when it comes to global warming and they'll say every single time

01:37:29.980 something like uh you know there's an article here from think progress poisoned weather global warming

01:37:36.060 helped fuel killer tornadoes and you go through and you you read their quotes and it's like you know

01:37:41.200 you can't leave out global warming when you're talking about these killer tornadoes it's a real

01:37:44.880 problem and they're gonna these are going to increase and get worse and worse and worse and worse

01:37:48.900 and then you know you can look at this year's chart of how many tornadoes there have been and there

01:37:53.940 it has been a a relatively active year it's not a unprecedented year but it's been an active year

01:38:00.460 however when you look at the long-term trend from the 1950s let's say to today you see a massive

01:38:08.580 improvement in the rate of tornadoes a decrease in the uh uh rate of tornadoes that's fairly dramatic

01:38:16.760 i mean you know it's about half i mean when you look at it tornadoes about half from what it was

01:38:22.080 um to give you the let's see let me give the exact number here uh real quick just so you you have it in

01:38:28.060 case you want to annoy your friends um there was uh from 1954 to 1985 we averaged about 56 tornadoes a

01:38:34.340 year and this year from 1986 to 2018 is about 33 so it's a little bit uh less than uh uh the possibility

01:38:43.340 that it's it's just a stable-ish number um but you know there wasn't everybody living in every

01:38:49.860 place in in america well that is a good argument for it so when you talk about the total tornado count

01:38:55.540 um we are much better at detecting them now than we were you know in the 50s and before that

01:39:00.940 and that's why usually when uh scientists look at this they look at only f3 and above because you

01:39:06.000 don't usually miss too many f3s right so the f3s and above have had a a significant decrease

01:39:11.900 and it's the exact opposite of what we're told by the way the quote i was reading you was not from

01:39:16.820 this most recent uh outbreak it was from 2012 now we had the lowest year and every year since 2012

01:39:24.300 has been lower than 2012 um every single year since we've had lower numbers of tornadoes and in

01:39:29.980 fact 2018 was the lowest we've ever had ever measured and they've been telling us for years

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01:41:19.180 responded to any of my tweets you want to talk to chris cuomo no i through twitter why even there

01:41:25.900 what what what good would that do you where's the advantage for you in that situation chris

01:41:32.180 all right okay you put it into perspective pretty quickly and i don't appreciate it

01:41:36.600 i don't ever want to be i know in contact with i know i just you know he just pissed me off so much

01:41:42.660 yesterday he just pissed me off so much yesterday with what he did you know a woman comes out and

01:41:48.460 she's like you know hey i was raped and that's why you know i have a gun i didn't believe in guns

01:41:52.960 before i believe in guns now and you know i was brutally raped for two hours and he comes out only in

01:41:57.980 america oh and then he comes up with some bs oh what i meant was only in america can we not have

01:42:06.200 a conversation about the obviously good uses of guns like stopping rapes and bad uses of school

01:42:16.520 shootings right we can't do that here what first of all what are you talking about no one needs that

01:42:20.500 conversation because everyone knows it so no one needs the conversation because it's obvious to

01:42:24.560 everyone on earth secondly that's not what you meant at all and you know it this is a very standard

01:42:30.160 chris cuomo tactic which is whenever he is uh whenever he does something dumb which is you know

01:42:37.140 no more than 13 14 times per hour when he does something dumb he can never admit it was just dumb

01:42:43.240 he always has to come up with with this lawyerly explanation as to what he really meant people buy

01:42:49.380 that he thinks people buy because he's under the assumption and belief that he is the smartest man

01:42:54.240 that has ever lived yes so he always and also not just the smartest man but the best lawyer

01:42:58.780 so he thinks he can lawyer himself out of every single argument and you even see this when he's

01:43:04.240 talking to someone on the left he comes up with these like smug points that he thinks are good

01:43:09.740 from the right because he thinks he's a good lawyer can argue both sides i mean there's one in every

01:43:14.080 family there's one in every family they're like yeah you know how many are in the cuomo family

01:43:18.260 dominated by these no i know but not really like chris i don't know they're not as they're not as

01:43:25.480 you know you when you watch chris you're just kind of like well he's really not that smart at all

01:43:31.820 everyone needs to try hard and he's trying he's trying hard did you do your best son yes you did

01:43:36.900 i mean it wasn't good but you did your best you know the other thing i love about cuomo too is

01:43:40.600 in this tweet exchange just fantastic i think it was janice dean who said hey uh you know how about us

01:43:46.540 people who maybe don't have uh you know a big man like you to protect them uh you know how about us

01:43:53.420 with guns and that's when he went into his long explanation but he couldn't he couldn't help

01:43:57.960 referencing in the third tweet he said something like you know as we all know muscles don't stop

01:44:03.740 bullets now she didn't say anything about his muscles but you know who's thinking about his

01:44:08.620 muscles all the time is chris cuomo the guy is the typical gym rat yeah you know he is that is such a

01:44:14.800 great explanation like gym rat guy who thinks everyone when he walks into a room everyone's

01:44:21.000 looking at his biceps like that's who he thinks he is along with the smartest man on earth and the

01:44:26.300 best lawyer in the world i'm gonna bring cliff maloney and he is the president of young americans

01:44:30.420 for liberty uh and uh you know who chris cuomo is do you even i mean because you're young americans

01:44:36.560 for liberty let me explain television television was this old thing that they used to have news in a

01:44:43.880 place called cnn and people would watch it uh wow yeah uh any comments on uh on uh chris cuomo

01:44:52.200 before we we move on to venezuela and guns yeah i mean i think you're exactly right he's kind of the

01:44:57.960 the the face if you will of people who they want to they want to lecture and act like they're playing

01:45:02.640 both sides and there's definitely more than one in every family but uh i mean i don't know anybody

01:45:08.020 under the age of 40 that watches them because it's you're just being talked at you know he's not

01:45:12.480 talking with the viewers uh he's kind of saying hey look this is the way it is and uh you know i'm

01:45:18.480 holier than thou and i know better than thou and i don't think anybody's got time for that yeah um

01:45:23.860 let's talk a little bit about uh an article that you wrote an opinion piece venezuela is the poster

01:45:28.980 child for gun control gone wrong amen thank you for saying this you know it's been funny glenn i've

01:45:35.960 gotten uh you know i didn't expect it to be as controversial as a topic um but i mean look we all

01:45:42.460 know gun control is the premise it is the root foundation of socialism i mean if you are going to

01:45:50.380 have control and if the government is going to dictate you know who does what how they do it when they

01:45:56.240 can do it you can't defend yourself um and i i'm surprised you know i put this piece together i mean

01:46:01.960 you you look back in 2012 in venezuela that was the the big step they restricted the right to own

01:46:08.940 firearms they you know we know this as conservatives and libertarians that that means taking away the

01:46:14.600 ability to defend yourself and when it comes to a tyrannical government and what you're seeing right

01:46:20.840 now in venezuela you know and if you talk to normal people in venezuela i mean some of the stories and

01:46:26.480 some of the quotes and just what you're hearing from people is damn i wish we had the ability to

01:46:31.380 defend ourselves and so it's it's to me it's a it's a perfect example of how socialism is just

01:46:38.040 totally fixated on disarming the citizenry and i think conservatives and libertarians should not

01:46:43.560 sit back we always try to say oh you know it's for hunting and you hear the no it's not defend

01:46:48.800 ourselves against a tyrannical government can i tell you something we were just talking about this

01:46:54.460 yesterday i am so sick of people saying oh you're going to take on the jets and the united states of

01:47:00.360 america um yeah it you know cave dwellers have been doing it pretty effectively for the last 20 years

01:47:09.460 yeah yeah and we have more guns and we don't live in caves uh i think we we need to be honest about

01:47:17.300 that and say that's what that was for it wasn't for hunting it wasn't for sport otherwise bowling

01:47:24.060 might be in the constitution it is about protecting yourself against a government gone insane

01:47:31.900 and and you know what kills me glenn is the hypocrisy of the left where they say hey the government

01:47:38.940 should not have power because trump is in charge oh i know but but hold on but if our guy's in charge

01:47:46.500 we want to give total power to the government and i just i can't handle this inconsistency for my

01:47:52.580 friends on the left because it's like look you've got to stop giving your power as a citizen your power

01:47:59.200 to to hold the government accountable you can't just go with the whims of whether your party's in

01:48:04.920 charge or your party's not because it's worse it's worse it's worse than that they're they're advocating

01:48:11.860 for now trump is an absolute dictator waiting to grab control let's turn in all of our guns right now

01:48:21.260 i mean it's not like they're it's not like under trump they've said oh let's slow down on taking

01:48:26.400 guns let's wait until our guy gets in they take them today it's crazy i give them too much credit

01:48:33.940 too much credit nuts it's just nuts so what is the controversy been about this because i know

01:48:41.260 if you point out hey uh there's a result of a socialist nation even though they were all

01:48:48.260 on the record saying this is socialist utopia in venezuela now they claim it's that that wasn't

01:48:55.460 socialism it was never socialism i don't make me laugh that was socialism what is the what is the

01:49:01.440 pushback on the the argument with with you on gun control in venezuela yeah so the the first point is

01:49:10.980 what you said when it comes to people say oh well you really think this is to to you know the second

01:49:16.820 amendment is really to defend against a tyrannical government and to that i say yes um and and to

01:49:22.500 the point that you made i mean but people really don't see that uh and i'm not even talking just on

01:49:27.980 the far left but just and pretty much any of my democrat friends it's they really don't understand

01:49:34.020 that government power uh is inherently bad when you centralize power and you need to have a check and

01:49:40.880 balance the second part is people are continuing to throw me the line cliff this is not real socialism

01:49:49.100 and exactly my comeback for the past week and a half is what you say glenn and that is every single

01:49:56.540 person in the country that is pushing for this democrat socialism call whatever you want

01:50:01.600 they're all on record praising venezuela over the past five to six years all of them so there there

01:50:08.080 there is no defense there is this is socialism this is government power and this is a perfect

01:50:13.640 example so why i called the peace you know it is it's a poster child of this so-called gun control

01:50:19.760 going wrong but the left doesn't want to own it and i'm not giving them that pass and once again i i

01:50:25.600 continue to tell my libertarian conservative friends do not back down do not give them one inch on this

01:50:31.900 issue because this is a perfect example of the type of government control they want and what

01:50:38.520 results when you put government control at such a high level over the ability of citizens to have

01:50:44.980 guaranteed rights talking to cliff maloney from uh young americans for liberty uh cliff it's an it's

01:50:50.440 an interesting thing because i think there is a the national the natural sort of inertia of human

01:50:55.460 beings is bondage it's been bondage forever and you know liberty's hard for a lot of people

01:51:01.100 and so a lot of times we slip back into this you know since socialism has been around there's

01:51:07.040 always been times where it's flared up even in the united states at some level but all over the world

01:51:12.000 it's just fascinating to me can you explain it all the timing of while we're watching venezuela

01:51:18.160 essentially burn itself to the ground now is the time where alexandria ocasio-cortez is on the rise

01:51:24.740 and bernie sanders is competing for the presidency why of all times right now we're seeing the

01:51:30.720 worst failure of a government in i mean even worse than zimbabwe they're saying

01:51:35.940 we're seeing that right now and now is the time that the americans are deciding to walk towards

01:51:41.180 socialism yeah well let me start off by saying this i think that young people get a bad rap you

01:51:47.100 know we work with college students and i think that you know polls will show you like 43 percent of

01:51:52.560 americans support some sort of socialism and that should scare the hell out of us don't don't get me wrong

01:51:58.420 but i think what what what gives me some hope is when you look at young people it's not always the

01:52:04.420 aocs and the bernies that they're they're going towards it's when you break it down issue by issue

01:52:10.300 they don't want the government taking 30 cents of every dollar they make they don't want the

01:52:14.540 government reading their emails or spying on you know their cell phones they don't want the

01:52:18.300 government you know spending these boatloads of money and running these trillion dollar deficits

01:52:21.860 but what's happening is the socialists i will i will admit this they are winning the messaging

01:52:28.040 battle the socialists are winning the hearts and minds they understand that everything is 30 second

01:52:33.700 clips on on twitter they're they're they're they're shortening things down i don't want to say

01:52:38.380 they're dumbing it down but i'm going to say it that's what they're doing they're dumbing down to

01:52:42.740 pull on heartstrings and look democrats have done this for years the problem is the socialists

01:52:49.060 are not hiding anymore they're owning the label and what this does is it gives an opportunity and

01:52:55.480 i'm going to be very careful how i say this to free market capitalists yes the problem i've had is

01:53:00.700 the crony capitalists over the years they are such a problem for us in the liberty camp because the

01:53:06.720 crony capitalists create this environment where now the left can use the tactic that they use on

01:53:11.860 us and say well that you know now we have to say well that wasn't real capitalism and that's a

01:53:16.520 problem so i that's why capitalism that's like capitalism that word i don't think should be used

01:53:23.080 anymore it's free markets because that says everything it's a market and it is free right

01:53:31.240 and yeah so i would agree that i think we have to re-own that messaging and we have to go out there

01:53:36.380 we have to say look socialism you know you can only paint so many pictures you can only point directly

01:53:41.500 to venezuela they're all on the record for supporting it and say these are false promises

01:53:47.260 that don't work but i i really want to hit on the fact that yeah i mean the capitalists and kind of

01:53:52.460 the crony capitalists they've made this battle so much harder and they've opened the door for aoc and

01:53:58.620 bernie to prevent socialism but we should take this as an opportunity and i would agree let's own the

01:54:03.960 free market mantra and let's show folks why it's the way forward thank you so much cliff appreciate it

01:54:09.120 we'll talk to you again cliff maloney he is uh for uh young americans for liberty he is the president

01:54:15.620 of that it's a great organization um young americans for liberty uh dot org y a liberty dot org

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01:56:34.700 now the government has sent several people out that are like yeah well we're pretty sure wait what

01:56:41.380 pretty sure what there's a uh there's a guy who's come out former deputy assistant secretary of defense

01:56:47.900 for intelligence uh he was uh his name is uh melon melon what's his first name i don't know melon um

01:56:56.420 christopher melon watermelon i don't know anyway he was talking about and i want to quote we know that

01:57:03.340 ufos exist this is no longer an issue the issue is why are they here where are they coming from and

01:57:10.880 what is the technology behind these devices that we are observing we know that ufos exist that's no

01:57:20.940 longer an issue the issue is why are they here now i'm not an expert but i'm i think there is a logical

01:57:30.520 explanation of why they're here it's the primary season for the democratic party and they all 20 of

01:57:38.880 them needed to get up on stage and run for president it's part of their takeover we've seen 24 spaceships

01:57:45.940 land in the last couple months and they're all running for president of the united states

01:57:51.360 as a democrat this makes more sense now

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