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00:00:12.080 the press oh we've got him now uh how many times have we heard this today is a big day because

00:00:20.700 today michael cohen who is a lying piece of crap scumbag uh who we have been on the record on this

00:00:29.360 program you know even during the election saying michael cohen is a lying piece of crap scumbag

00:00:35.700 that you can't trust now the media who hated him loves him and he's going to testify and he's got

00:00:46.180 some evidence does he we're going to go over what he's going to talk about in about an hour in front

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00:03:11.780 i have asked the committee to ensure that my family be protected from presidential threats

00:03:22.460 and the committee be sensitive to the questions pertaining to ongoing investigations

00:03:26.600 i'm here under oath to correct the record to answer the committee's questions truthfully and

00:03:32.620 offer the american people what i know about president trump i recognize that some of you

00:03:37.380 may have doubt an attack on my credibility yeah every american both republican democrat

00:03:44.900 in the press out of the press everyone should have deep questions about this man's credibility

00:03:51.220 this guy has been a weasel i think probably since birth he is a bad bad guy you remember if you

00:03:59.840 remember one of our problems in fact one of our biggest problems with donald trump and the reason

00:04:04.640 why we said you can't trust him is because he used to always say i've got the best people around me

00:04:10.060 and they were the worst people in particular cohen was one of them at the top of our list

00:04:17.800 bannon was at the top of our list um uh roger stone roger stone was at the top of the list

00:04:26.480 you had manafort and we told you all of the things that were going to happen because of

00:04:34.500 these people now that these people are gone it's a lot better but it's these people that have

00:04:41.480 gotten him into so much hot water and so much trouble they were not trustworthy then they're not

00:04:47.460 trustworthy now so what does the testimony of michael cohen even mean nothing nothing unless he has

00:04:58.060 evidence which they say he's going to be preventing presenting evidence uh i you know we'll wait and

00:05:05.860 see i i've heard a lot of things too and monkeys will fly out of your butt when they actually when

00:05:11.080 the media starts to get things right on this case um so what is he going to be talking about today

00:05:17.380 yeah and i'm glad you set it up that way because it's important to uh you see that a lot of people who

00:05:23.180 were you know big trump defenders in the media were saying michael cohen was a great guy and now

00:05:29.460 they're saying he's a terrible guy and the media was all saying michael cohen was a terrible guy and

00:05:33.860 now they're saying he's a great guy now they're all over him is the most credible person in the

00:05:37.640 entire universe he has never been credible if if if what he goes to prison for is one one thousandth

00:05:44.300 of the crimes he's committed in his life i would be stunned me too uh so i mean you cannot take

00:05:49.680 anything that he says seriously unless he has significant evidence to back it up but maybe

00:05:57.520 we should go through this i mean look everyone's gonna be talking about it and you should know

00:06:00.880 what's in it and we have um we have uh jason buttrill in uh with us and and jason is going to be uh

00:06:07.720 monitoring in hour number two he's going to be monitoring the testimony so he's listening it's so so

00:06:14.560 we don't have to and we're having we're you have this show so you don't have to do it so we we're

00:06:20.840 passing the buck uh and we're giving it to jason our head researcher to just to follow and we'll break

00:06:26.680 in if there's anything big i'm thrilled personally because you usually have to read like a 500 page

00:06:31.100 report right now i just have to listen to it this is easy this is easy uh so what we have here is a 20

00:06:36.380 page a document is from michael cohen it is reportedly by all uh by all accounts his prepared

00:06:43.840 uh opening statement today in in the testimony so he says he's ashamed he's ashamed of his failings

00:06:50.540 he's ashamed of his weakness he's ashamed of his misplaced loyalty he's ashamed of the things i did

00:06:55.680 for mr trump i'm ashamed that i chose to take part in concealing mr trump's illicit acts i'm ashamed

00:07:01.760 that because i know what mr trump is he's i'm quoting he's a racist he's a con man he's a cheat and

00:07:08.640 that's kind of the setup of it i guess you can why don't we go through each claim and maybe you can

00:07:12.680 tell me glenn do you think the amer this is going to be effective of the american people how do they

00:07:17.020 react to this yep all right uh i'll go to let's start here um he first starts off with the buzzfeed

00:07:24.180 report which was about how michael cohen was told specifically from donald trump to lie to congress

00:07:30.120 uh cohen refutes that at some level he says mr trump did not directly tell me to lie to congress

00:07:36.120 that's not how he operates in conversations we had during the campaign at the same time i was

00:07:39.980 actively negotiating in russia for him he would look me in the eye and tell me there's no business

00:07:45.220 in russia and then go out and lie to the american people by saying the same thing in his way he was

00:07:50.440 telling me to lie well i believe that to be true but i don't think the american people are going to care

00:07:58.320 and we've are this has already come out right look we know that he said there was no business in

00:08:02.940 russia and he did have the signed letter of intent that's all come out is there anybody i mean when

00:08:08.340 people said i'm not electing a pope i'm electing a president yeah what you were really saying was

00:08:15.420 look i know this guy is dirty but i don't care the new york real estate business is no right it's shady

00:08:23.020 it's dirty so i don't think i think to me it matters okay but it mattered during the election

00:08:29.380 american americans made their choice and they chose it's been to go with a guy who they knew was shady

00:08:36.860 it's been priced in right so i don't think this is gonna matter okay um there were at least a half

00:08:41.720 dozen times uh between the iowa caucus in january 2016 and the end of june where he would ask me

00:08:46.260 how is it going in russia again insinuating that he was all over this the entire time and then lied

00:08:51.940 about it but again that's kind of kind of what we know about that um another one that's interesting

00:08:57.220 is he says you need to know mr trump's personal lawyers reviewed and edited my statement to congress

00:09:02.340 about the timing of the moscow negotiations before i gave it saying it was not his own lie

00:09:07.460 but the lawyers actually um i guess uh were part of this he's essentially accusing the lawyers of

00:09:15.120 intentionally uh you know lying to congress as well they're approving his statements um he says again

00:09:22.020 to be clear mr trump knew of and directed the trump moscow negotiations throughout the campaign and lied

00:09:26.620 about it he lied about it because he never expected to win the election he also lied about it because

00:09:31.060 he stood to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the moscow real estate project anything new there

00:09:35.440 that you think would be nope impactful nope yeah i don't think so either nope um okay you're the one

00:09:40.200 who raised your hand the other attorneys did not you raised your hand uh okay he says uh he uh trump

00:09:47.260 never expected to win the primary never expected to win the election the campaign for him was always

00:09:50.840 a marketing opportunity i agree with that um he he also says that trump would often say the campaign

00:09:56.200 was going to be the greatest infomercial in political history i agree with that um but again

00:10:00.920 not impactful i don't think on the administration in any way um he says i knew early on that it would

00:10:05.720 uh trump would direct me to lie further to further his business interest i'm ashamed to say that when

00:10:11.000 it was for a real estate mogul in the private sector i considered it trivial as the president i consider

00:10:15.100 it significant and dangerous this is i don't believe that this is the type of thing where you can't

00:10:19.340 believe cohen at all they don't believe lying is his first language yeah his first and he has no

00:10:25.100 credibility you can't when he has these little moral moments throughout this thing i don't take any of

00:10:29.700 that seriously nope i think right now he's decided this is the thing he wants to do which is uh you

00:10:34.700 know take down donald trump with some things that may be true some things that may not the bottom

00:10:38.620 line is though that's his motivation now and it should be seen through that this is a this is a

00:10:43.260 this is a mobster that would say you know when i was killing you know when i was killing uh veto

00:10:48.500 the shark and uh tommy tommy knuckles i didn't have a problem with it but soon as i had to kill

00:10:55.100 you know their wives well then i really had a problem look killing is killing yeah right killing

00:11:00.980 is killing tommy knuckles i like that okay a lot of people have asked me whether mr trump knew about

00:11:06.780 the release of hacked democratic national committee emails ahead of time the answer is yes so this is

00:11:12.840 another one where okay this has been one of the big accusations is there any evidence to this

00:11:16.260 here's what he says in july 2016 days before the democratic convention i was in mr trump's office when

00:11:21.520 his secretary announced roger stone was on the phone mr trump put mr stone on the speaker phone

00:11:26.700 mr stone told mr trump that he had just gotten off the phone with julian assange and mr assange told

00:11:32.540 stone that within a couple of days there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage hillary

00:11:36.520 clinton's campaign mr trump responded by stating to the effect wouldn't that be great i believe that

00:11:42.600 you believe that happened yeah now whether uh stone actually talked to assange we don't know

00:11:48.680 yeah uh he could have easily been puffing up his chest stone is a liar stone's also stone is a guy

00:11:54.060 who is cohen stone stone would lie to trump to to raise his position in the organization so

00:12:02.380 i don't know if stone is lying or not he may have he may not have but i do believe that donald trump

00:12:09.180 is the guy who would have gotten on the phone and with stone and he would have said hey man i just

00:12:14.000 talked to julian assange and and i can't give you all the details but something's coming out on

00:12:18.580 donald uh on uh on hillary wouldn't that be great and that fits what happened in the timeline it fits

00:12:25.660 with him remember the press conference he gave it said hey some things are going to be coming out

00:12:30.080 remember that the last few days things gonna be coming out so yeah it looks like that also it fits

00:12:37.600 to me remember the only thing at that time that trump trump's team they say not trump but trump's team

00:12:45.960 and i believe this with between stone and manafort it may have just been trump's team and trump just

00:12:53.040 saying hey just take care of this let's just make sure we're friendly um remember the only thing they

00:12:58.820 cared about in the platform was being was going soft on russia's policy for the ukraine you remember

00:13:05.400 i do remember that story and so that's all happening in the same week that this is is it

00:13:11.720 gonna matter no it didn't matter then it won't matter now uh just to point out that does contradict

00:13:19.200 uh stone's uh the case the government's case against roger stone in his text messages he kept

00:13:24.960 repeatedly saying that no one from the trump camp was uh listening to him as far as assange's emails

00:13:30.140 uh he said he was reaching out to a guy that was unnamed but we all know now that it was steve bannon

00:13:34.580 um that was his contact it was never directly with the president according to his text messages and the

00:13:40.040 the federal government's indictment but he kept saying i'm reaching out to tell uh steve bannon this

00:13:45.440 but he's not listening no one will no one will listen to me on this and again you have to understand

00:13:51.420 you have to put roger stone in context he very well could have been lying on all the text messages too

00:13:55.180 he lies all the time that's all he does so you can't really it's hard to get it's it's interesting

00:14:00.800 because we talked about this as as people surrounding trump during the campaign a lot of

00:14:04.880 them are since you know sincerely problematic people that lie all the time in a way that inoculates

00:14:09.800 trump here because you can't trust any of the insiders yeah any of them that have accounts against

00:14:14.560 donald trump are so untrustworthy and been shown to be so untrustworthy so many times you can't believe

00:14:19.380 any of their claims yeah even when they're texting about things that are bad for them or good for

00:14:23.660 them there's always an agenda behind it remember it was it was nixon's attorney that said under oath

00:14:30.940 like on a day like today when they really didn't have anything and he said under oath i think the

00:14:37.320 president has been taping our conversations well soon as that came out then they started looking for

00:14:44.240 the tapes right and then that that's why water watergate broke apart was because of of nixon's

00:14:51.620 attorney testifying and testifying that he thought the president was making tapes uh but those guys

00:14:58.580 didn't have any credibility either they had no credibility well dean had more credibility than

00:15:03.440 stone or cohen though oh yeah absolutely but they all went to jail as well so uh all right i want to

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00:16:57.380 okay so is there any any disagreement where where i've come down on this that i don't think any of

00:17:15.560 this makes a difference so far no i i don't think so total distraction yeah no need to worry about it

00:17:21.120 at this point um so the next is mr trump is a racist we're going through michael cohen's

00:17:25.520 testimony so you don't have to uh so michael cohen says that mr trump is a racist the country has seen

00:17:31.120 mr trump court white supremacists and bigots you have heard him call poorer countries s-holes

00:17:36.220 uh that would be uh uh s-h-i-t-holes yeah the reason i say that is because i'm fascinated by cnn right now

00:17:43.300 who just like a little child that has a free pass to use a naughty word on tv continues to say the full

00:17:49.260 word every time like there's okay the first day maybe you have an argument to use the full word

00:17:55.540 so people know what it is it's been six months since this accusation came out or more and they

00:18:00.860 still on morning television are saying the full word they just like love the idea that they get

00:18:06.020 to say this this swear word on tv and it's embarrassing okay next up uh he once asked if i

00:18:11.420 could if uh if if i could name a country this is cohen speaking he once asked me if i could name a

00:18:16.380 country run by a black person that wasn't an s-hole uh in united states of america this is when

00:18:24.460 brock obama was president of the united states as he knows united states of america right i mean i'm

00:18:29.040 i wasn't quizzing you to see if you could name one i'm saying this is michael cohen's accusation

00:18:32.740 i could have said under nelson mandela uh south africa the point here though is not whether you can

00:18:39.940 come up with one the point is that that's the way trump's thinking however again it's cohen's word

00:18:44.180 means nothing nothing nothing michael cohen's word means nothing that's the download here uh next

00:18:49.700 up he says while we were once driving through a struggling neighborhood in chicago he commented

00:18:53.580 that only black people could live that way again if he had a tape of that that would be pretty

00:19:00.560 freaking significant uh the fact that he doesn't means it means nothing because it's michael cohen

00:19:05.620 speaking and michael cohen's word means nothing zero next up uh uh he told me that black people

00:19:10.800 would never vote for him because they were too stupid if they have a tape of that uh that would

00:19:15.660 be a huge deal uh they he doesn't it's michael cohen's word and michael cohen's word means nothing

00:19:20.560 he's also said that if he was ever going to run for president he'd run as a republican because

00:19:25.580 republicans no that's not a real note right right yeah that's not true but that is that's out on the

00:19:31.900 internet and everything else he's also said that well has he no he hasn't that's a that's a

00:19:37.200 hoax i mean so again how do you know what's real or not without a tape well and that's even going

00:19:44.900 away right now at least the tape proves it right now i mean right few years with ai and deep fakes

00:19:51.660 and such two years it won't make a difference yeah uh okay so that's the racist stuff those are that's

00:19:56.300 the extent of the accusations on the racist stuff so i mean really what you have is michael cohen

00:20:00.320 recounting three conversations or comments from trump which in which he has absolutely no evidence of

00:20:06.960 really seemingly by his own word he does outline evidence of for some of these things none of the

00:20:12.180 racist things he has any evidence no it will make a difference only to people like kamala harris do we

00:20:17.740 have the audio of kamala harris yesterday being asked do you think that donald trump is a racist

00:20:22.040 president trump a racist well look when you talk about his statement on that when you talk about him

00:20:29.980 calling african countries s whole countries when you talk about him referring to immigrants as rapists

00:20:37.500 and murderers i don't think you can reach any other conclusion you definitely agree that he's a racist i do

00:20:43.100 yes yes yes yes you're telling me that haiti isn't a crap hole i mean it's had a lot of problems yeah it's

00:20:54.640 a lot of problems i'm not i'm not saying why it's a crap hole or anything else but it's a crap hole and

00:21:00.640 and there are really good people trying to help haiti out so it's not a crap hole anymore including

00:21:06.960 their new president but i mean if we can't if we can't recognize that there's some real crap hole

00:21:13.360 countries uh iran is one uh you know i don't do you want to live there because i don't yeah think

00:21:21.340 if you think of it as do you want to move there yeah if you if your answer is no i mean it's not

00:21:25.480 that doesn't make you a racist it makes you all right truth teller look they're places that are

00:21:31.120 crappy in the world china is crappy not beijing but china not hong kong you're listening to glenn

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00:22:51.740 welcome to the glenbeck program so glad that you're listening thank you for joining us we're

00:23:05.620 going to be talking about the cohen testimony as it begins here in about 35 minutes pat gray is

00:23:10.920 joining us now there is uh there is some something that's really interesting this whole system is

00:23:17.100 already beginning to fall apart even before it has really even been fully implemented and that is

00:23:23.960 now with transgender the the truth is that women and men are built differently that's science

00:23:32.960 wow did you hear that on the radio wow yeah i did i did yeah so they're built differently and now who's

00:23:40.900 suffering the girls in school the girls who are losing their their uh scholarships to go to college

00:23:48.840 they're losing them to guys who now are transitioning to be women because they're faster runners

00:23:56.080 and they don't think that's fair what a surprise in connecticut it happened uh with two girls two girls

00:24:05.140 two trans girls in one race the top two winners were both transgender i mean so it's really starting

00:24:14.720 to affect women's sports and they're not happy about it and when they speak out about it they get beat

00:24:20.680 to a pulp because you're not supposed to say anything they just kicked billy jean king out of the i

00:24:25.240 don't know the clubhouse martina navratilova no billy jean king billy jean too yeah billy jean king

00:24:30.760 this week wow martina latina navratilova last week last week yeah so they are that's a that's

00:24:36.640 incredible and here's these are people who stood they were pioneers they were this is like kicking

00:24:41.380 martin luther king out of a civil rights group today right and believe me if martin luther king

00:24:47.180 were alive they would kick him out it's probably true first of all he was way too religious that guy

00:24:52.980 yes reverend before his name yeah yeah yeah that's unbelievable yeah i mean and he talked a lot

00:24:59.780 about personal responsibility i mean he talked a lot about being uh not colorblind it's wrong now to

00:25:07.880 be colorblind yeah wait a minute i thought that was the point you thought wrong and gender is about

00:25:14.880 identity and feelings feelings it's something races morris albert sings about that's not what you're

00:25:22.460 supposed to base gender on right i remember that come on remember watching because we were talking

00:25:28.340 about this what what's the difference here between gender like we're describing something right there

00:25:32.920 are organs on a person and that's what we're describing and they seem to be describing something

00:25:36.100 else and we were watching uh this is when pat we were on pat and stew and we watched a clip about

00:25:40.060 ellen talking about it and she said uh gender is a feeling you have in your brain or in your heart

00:25:48.500 that's right and it's like well that that oh i mean just talking about your feelings may have value

00:25:53.960 but i don't think it has value in this conversation if that is true fine then we need to use science

00:26:01.720 and talk about the body not your feeling when you're competing with sports you're only hurting

00:26:08.780 the girls you're hurting the girls and and this is proof positive um that socialism will never take

00:26:17.940 hold you'll have to kill millions of people because socialism as i'm going to explain in my cpac

00:26:23.800 speech has nothing to do with fairness or justice has nothing to do with it okay that's not its goal

00:26:31.360 that's the goal of the free market system that's the goal of a constitutional republic is justice as

00:26:38.020 close as we can get to justice here's what's happening americans are fair americans are open

00:26:46.040 americans are do not want to judge their neighbor and somebody who lives differently than them for the

00:26:52.940 most part there are bigots on both sides okay but for the most part people are like look man you want

00:26:59.240 to call yourself a chick call yourself a chick whatever if you want to live like a woman fine

00:27:04.100 do it i don't have a problem with that however when it starts to affect me and my life then i have a

00:27:14.540 problem as you should right and as it is now starting to trickle down into all of these kids that said no

00:27:24.480 i'm for fairness well yes so are conservatives so are constitutional libertarians we are for being

00:27:35.000 fair and open and decent but once it starts to hinder your life and your rights you don't have no one

00:27:45.040 person has a right to trample on the rights of another and yeah by competing if we're going to put

00:27:50.820 men and women in the same sport fine then it makes no difference but we separated it because americans knew

00:27:58.760 scientifically men and women are built differently they just are and you have to reject all science

00:28:07.240 to think differently and so we separated them so it would be fair so the girls could win what are the

00:28:14.280 girls saying now in connecticut they yes they're losing out on scholarships there it's just unfair and

00:28:19.900 they say they know what the outcome is before the race is even won yes before they before they even

00:28:26.340 start they know those people are going to win because they're built as a man and so they're

00:28:33.680 going to win and they said every race it's the same why are we even racing yeah and and these are the

00:28:40.400 kids who have been taught their whole lives that they should be inclusive and they want to be they

00:28:44.740 should be diverse and they want to be and then they get to this and they're finding out that now there's

00:28:51.440 some problems with all of that yeah we want to be inclusive and we want to be diverse and all those

00:28:55.480 things are great but there's also fact there's also science and region reason and logic and it's

00:29:02.740 not logical for these you know these are identifying as women but they got a man unit in their pants

00:29:08.420 that makes it different it does a test that makes it different that that the man unit besides the

00:29:14.180 testosterone doesn't matter it's the muscle mass and the bone yeah but it's because they have a man

00:29:20.420 unit in their pants they have a different muscle structure correct and this is why we don't have

00:29:23.940 kids making these decisions they eat paste right like this is not yeah and tide pods thank you

00:29:28.900 it's like you know i got news for you it's it's not kids making this decision those are adults that

00:29:34.620 have been making these decisions right but the kids have been grown up yes are growing up under

00:29:38.700 those conditions where that is now just the truth they've bought into all that they bought into it

00:29:43.040 but now it's affecting them yeah i mean so i you know go kind of goes back to what i believe is the uh

00:29:48.620 the light in the life of of one pat gray and the pat gray unleashed program which is liberals eating their

00:29:53.300 own and you watch this kind of go on it's fun it is fun at some level uh but i mean like you know

00:29:58.660 we talked about this a while ago i mean ru paul got in trouble for saying the word tranny yes ru paul

00:30:05.360 jeez we played the clip of pat and also i don't think we have it around anymore but of him a progressive

00:30:09.780 guy going off on this and saying can you i mean this is a guy who who blazed paths uh he's a guy who's

00:30:16.680 on logo which is like the you know the gay cable network for you know gay programming he was had a

00:30:22.880 big show on that network he is a guy that everybody knew as a cross dresser and someone who embraced

00:30:29.040 these progressive values now he's becoming a victim because he used the word tranny which is not even

00:30:34.020 okay for him to use it goes so far so fast because there's no principles here it's all a moving target

00:30:40.540 it's all emotion and it's all emotion let me ask you this anybody notice who one of the speakers is

00:30:47.040 at cpac glenn beck well no van jones oh yeah what yeah van oh i didn't know that jones which is an

00:30:57.160 amazing world glenn beck and van jones on a stage at cpac that's fascinating wow the world changes

00:31:03.780 uh so wow here's here's the thing what's he talking about the i'm sure he's talking about justice yeah

00:31:09.960 yeah and working together and here's the thing he's an outcast of the left of the left yeah he's

00:31:16.620 an outcast the guy was a communist he's an outcast the guy who i said 10 years ago is the most radical

00:31:28.560 guy in the administration is not radical enough and is speaking at cpac holy crap so incredible it's

00:31:39.800 incredible so incredible and with the transgender thing you know all across the nation everybody's

00:31:45.360 trying to figure out how to deal with it in texas there's a rule that you you've got to compete uh

00:31:51.440 under the gender that's on your birth certificate so that caused a problem because a girl who wanted to

00:31:58.840 compete with boys and she's on the testosterone hormone treatment so she's stronger and more agile and

00:32:08.060 and dominating in women's wrestling but she had to she wanted to compete against the boys that

00:32:13.700 wouldn't let her in in connecticut it's different it's it's the gender with which you'd identify and

00:32:19.620 you get to compete in texas are they doing the hormones because of a transition or is it because

00:32:24.260 of a medical transition because of the transition so they can't because you wouldn't normally be able

00:32:28.520 to use let's say steroids right right and they make the exception for the transition person and

00:32:32.860 that's again where the issue stands right you shouldn't be able to yeah again it's a chemistry

00:32:37.740 issue here if they're taking these things really for any reason i mean i think you'd feel bad if it

00:32:41.580 was for like that's why you get kicked out of major league baseball for taking testosterone

00:32:44.920 it makes you stronger and faster yeah it's armstrong really that was part of his situation it's really

00:32:51.140 truly amazing how the effects are so clear and and are going to pile up faster and faster

00:32:58.840 once you start rejecting science once you reject science i mean that's why that's you know that's

00:33:06.360 the meaning behind my last book it's science and it's dismantling absolutely everything in our society

00:33:14.600 you once you start to dismantle science you can't go to the moon anymore because two plus two equals five

00:33:24.280 sometimes yeah well what you can't do anything our whole world is based upon science and empirical

00:33:36.660 evidence now nothing is nothing is and isn't it fascinating that they used to throw that around

00:33:43.680 at us that we're the science deniers and now it's the democrats who are denying science on whether a

00:33:49.480 fetus is a human being and whether a baby is a human baby is a human being and it's not what's in

00:33:56.900 your pants that decides it's how you feel in your head that decides your gender what no it isn't no it

00:34:03.900 isn't now to be american if you want to say you're a woman and you're a man because that's the way you feel

00:34:15.420 and you have a gender issue okay go ahead and i might even call you ma'am because i don't need to

00:34:24.180 hurt your feeling i don't need to prove anything to you or whatever i i don't you know it depends on

00:34:29.680 how deep this goes and if i how much i have to you know um honor your delusion i'm not going to go down

00:34:38.600 that road but to be polite i'm living next to a to a guy who dresses like a woman i'm going to tell my

00:34:43.980 kids yeah he's got some gender issues uh you know what but he's our neighbor we love him just be

00:34:50.120 polite you know say good morning ma'am or whatever okay let's just be cool with each other americans

00:34:57.920 want to live that way they just don't want it forced down their throat and that means they don't want

00:35:06.260 somebody saying you're gay no you can't love another person of your gender you can't do that

00:35:13.720 you can't do that they don't want that either they just want oh you're gay oh you're living with

00:35:19.780 another person of your gender okay kids that's homosexuality we think it's wrong they think it's

00:35:25.320 right okay move on with your life that's what america wants and for some reason um there are others

00:35:33.860 well i don't need to say for some reason for reasons of power and control and manipulation

00:35:40.000 they must have us all think alike they must have us toe the line whatever that line is today

00:35:48.300 it'll be different tomorrow but we must all learn you toe the line that's the end of america that's

00:35:55.420 the end of the american experiment that's a that's the end of everything we are as a species

00:36:01.060 that's what this battle is about and we are at the end of this battle now it's going to go on if

00:36:09.640 they win it's going to go on until they are thwarted a hundred years from now maybe longer than that

00:36:16.880 because of technology but that battle will continue one way or another but we are about to be put in a

00:36:26.260 cage i mean i don't know if you realize 5g that decision is being made right now they are building

00:36:35.500 uh a a a rat trap china is building a rat trap we are at the we're at the height of the cold war with

00:36:44.720 the missiles and we don't even know it nobody's even talking about it in the next six to 18 months

00:36:52.640 places like germany and uh britain and australia they're all deciding whether or not yeah we can

00:37:01.380 have huawei technology for our 5g if that technology is put in china rules all information they have

00:37:10.840 access to every every single gas line that runs around the world they win every war before a bullet

00:37:18.800 is ever fought and what are we talking about we're talking about cohen get your priorities together

00:37:26.860 america science matters facts matter

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00:38:53.060 this is the glenn beck program

00:38:58.120 i could not be a more committed progressive feminist pro-gay pro-transgender person but i cannot

00:39:16.760 keep up with the glossary of correct terms

00:39:21.380 i'm trying i want to help but holy

00:39:25.380 they change it's like a secret club pass where they change it every week and then you're in trouble

00:39:31.080 that's not the word we use

00:39:32.620 it was last week

00:39:35.000 i have hemorrhoids my

00:39:37.440 is falling out

00:39:39.280 i want to help

00:39:41.020 i know i'm an old

00:39:43.160 cis white

00:39:44.000 but don't give me

00:39:46.340 because i didn't know the right term

00:39:48.700 rupaul rupaul got into saying tranny

00:39:54.660 rupaul

00:39:56.740 amazing

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00:41:42.140 because this is not a legal proceeding this is a political proceeding michael cohen a completely

00:41:47.980 uh discredited witness now suddenly has a lot of credibility with the democrats and we're going

00:41:55.600 to hear his testimony uh as we go first let me start here this is the glenbeck program jason says

00:42:05.460 there's already fireworks he's listening to it so we don't have to uh already fireworks in this

00:42:10.220 already fireworks congressman meadows is like just lit it up the uh congressman cummings oh yeah yeah

00:42:16.120 yeah cummings he's uh he's talking about um how they didn't have enough time to respond they were

00:42:20.380 like cnn and politico had this before we did his testimony so they're trying to get it delayed right

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00:43:51.960 to carshield.com okay so what are they voting for now they're voting to to postpone or not

00:44:08.860 rather to get to continue with his testimony and it's going purely partisan lines right now all the

00:44:14.140 all the democrats just voted and they said yes he should and now the republicans are voting saying

00:44:17.900 no he should not do his testimony they want time more time to look through his testimony and rip it

00:44:22.240 apart that's what they said okay now though they had the was his testimony the opening statement yeah

00:44:28.300 that's his opening it's 20 pages long just get on with this nonsense i mean can we get it over with

00:44:34.060 i just want this i want the report to come out i want this to go away how long do we have to deal

00:44:38.840 with this i mean the 20 pages are filled with a bunch of accusations that uh if true could be

00:44:46.360 significant however they are not significant because michael cohen's the one saying them there's evidence

00:44:51.960 for some of them and those i think are worth reviewing but we went through about half of them

00:44:56.520 before maybe we can go through the rest if you want yeah we going we're going through michael

00:45:00.200 cohen's testimony so you don't have to right so bring this up jason's going to listen to it um

00:45:05.100 but bring it up just a little bit and if there's something significant where he starts to talk and

00:45:10.200 and he's into one of these significant places then we'll we'll bring it up okay so uh he has made

00:45:16.420 he's going to make today several allegations um uh against donald trump yeah we went through some

00:45:23.460 of them that he made racist comments with no backing no evidence at all of them uh things about

00:45:28.800 uh whether he talked to russia he claims there's a phone call that happened as jason pointed out in

00:45:33.260 hour one it disagrees with the case against roger stone uh that this call ever occurred but he's

00:45:39.720 claiming it again with no evidence the fbi says that didn't happen but cohen is saying it it it did

00:45:46.120 it did uh he goes on to talk about mr trump being a cheat this is what he says as previously stated he's

00:45:52.100 giving three years of president trump's financial statements from 2011 to 2013 which he gave to

00:45:57.080 bank uh to inquire about a loan to buy the buffalo bills and and to forbes these are exhibits he

00:46:02.940 actually turned in in my experience it was mr trump inflating his total assets when it served his

00:46:08.640 purposes such as trying to be listed among the wealthiest people in forbes and deflating his

00:46:13.240 assets to reduce his real estate taxes this is there was a big new york times investigation about

00:46:18.180 this i think it was last year um you know if he did do that especially in some official way to

00:46:25.620 lower his real estate taxes that would be obviously a serious issue um most of the accusations in the

00:46:32.260 times piece were very old you know going back to the 80s yeah um so i don't know they didn't have

00:46:37.440 anything they didn't have anything new that's that's why and that's why they're saying you know

00:46:42.340 release the tax the tax papers so they have something new to go off of to see how he manipulates

00:46:48.820 things if indeed he does uh also he is giving them two newspaper articles side by side that are

00:46:56.380 examples of mr trump inflating and deflating his assets again he's got newspaper he's got two of

00:47:01.160 them and he's placed them side by side again i would ask you does any of this make a difference so far

00:47:05.540 nope um again most people have made their mind up on donald trump and they're not going to move

00:47:10.280 either way here's another one uh that we've heard hang on just a sec i want to say this on income tax

00:47:15.240 especially nobody's going to be surprised if a real estate mogul from new york city manipulates

00:47:22.860 his tax return to not pay taxes should he no is it illegal yes should he maybe you know get the full

00:47:31.200 burden of the law and have to pay for that yes and a fine probably however this is getting al capone

00:47:38.080 for income tax evasion exactly remember this is supposed to be an investigation about whether russia

00:47:42.120 influenced the election this is this is nothing new and and nothing major uh mr trump directed me

00:47:48.900 michael cohen to find a straw bidder to purchase a portrait of him that was being auctioned at an

00:47:53.780 art hampton's event the objective was to ensure that his portrait which was going to be auctioned

00:47:57.900 last would go for the highest price of any portrait that afternoon the portrait was purchased by the fake

00:48:02.680 bidder for sixty thousand dollars mr trump then directed the trump foundation which is supposed to be a

00:48:07.580 charitable organization to repay the fake bidder despite keeping the art for himself now the part

00:48:14.420 of that that's there's part of that's just embarrassing if you're paying you're trying to

00:48:17.560 get a bidder to bid up your own painting the other part of that though is more serious which is taking

00:48:21.800 charitable funds and directing them for something that you purchase for yourself that's not something

00:48:26.580 you're really allowed to do it was a charitable event you pay sometimes you pay way too much money

00:48:32.700 at a charitable event because it's your way of of giving if he has that um you know in the bylaws of

00:48:41.620 the trump charity that he can you know he can go out and and bid on things uh and you know and give

00:48:49.660 that money to charity that's a charity gift now you're getting something in exchange but it's a stupid

00:48:55.540 oil painting of you i you know i think it's i think it's slimy and it probably shouldn't be probably can't be done

00:49:08.080 but again i don't think that's worth impeachment no and i think again like i don't think anyone took the

00:49:15.760 trump foundation seriously as a charity i mean it was a if nothing else a pr you know it was a way to get trump

00:49:22.140 p good pr when he was a businessman it's got still got nothing to do with these larger picture that

00:49:26.280 we're really concerned about as a country though it may it may wind up getting him a fine i mean so

00:49:30.960 far you're telling telling america um on the things that you say you have evidence on you're telling

00:49:37.660 america pretty much what america already knows about donald trump he is he's an ego guy driven by ego

00:49:46.100 he he's slippery with all of the facts he you know fudges things here and there yeah he hires dirt

00:49:53.580 bags like cohen yeah we know it we're monitoring the uh the testimony as well jason and uh is there

00:49:59.260 anything going on that we're missing at this point anything interesting no not really uh uh congressman

00:50:04.960 cummings is doing his basically his opening statement he uh he said that um the first thing he came out

00:50:10.220 with was he talks about the payoffs to the women that's the first thing he let off with he also said

00:50:14.480 look the credibility issue is a valid question but he said the reason why we're justifying this

00:50:19.180 is because the additional documents that cohen is going to release today that's why he's saying

00:50:23.320 that's where they're at now all right uh going on his testimony with mike from michael cohen against

00:50:27.380 donald trump trying to figure out if anything here is going to change any minds uh it says i should

00:50:31.660 come to no surprise that one of my more common responsibilities was that mr trump directed me to

00:50:36.260 call business owners many of whom were small businesses that were owed money for their services and

00:50:40.620 told them no payment or a reduced payment would be coming when i advised mr trump

00:50:44.440 of my success he reveled in it um and yet i continued to work for him quoting michael cohen

00:50:50.020 now we have heard this from several people from that have worked for donald trump or done business

00:50:55.340 with donald trump in the past this was a business tactic of trump trump would call have cohen or

00:51:00.860 somebody else call up a business and say yeah i owe you a hundred thousand dollars but you know what

00:51:04.400 x y and z i'm not doing i'm giving you 50 and people would have to either fight back against trump

00:51:10.340 and say no you're paying me my entire amount or they would have to take it and it was not a it was

00:51:16.500 not a thing where he was um it was his hard-nosed business tactic right like he thought he could get

00:51:21.320 a better price that's a scumbag business tech whether it's a honorable thing or not it's not

00:51:26.080 it's not i don't but listen again when i said when i said in new york you know look at the guy who can get

00:51:33.400 things done here is donald trump you want a building built you want the freedom tower built

00:51:38.280 give it to donald trump he'll have it built in six weeks you don't want to know what he had to do to

00:51:43.620 get it built i mean that that's true today you you admire him for um uh you know finding every single

00:51:53.960 loophole and exploiting it to the max it's not the way i want to live my life it's why that's what he is

00:52:00.020 that's what he does it's why a lot of people like the emergency declaration and why a lot of people

00:52:03.680 don't like the emergency declaration right it's the same thing and by the way he wrote about all

00:52:07.520 this in his book i mean this is all stuff he's acknowledged yeah as far as generalized tactics

00:52:12.620 so far nothing changes anything i michael cohen will say i am giving the committee today a copy of

00:52:18.620 the 130 000 wire transfer from me to mrs clifford that's the that's stormy daniels attorney during the

00:52:25.480 closing days of the presidential campaign that was demanded by daniels to maintain her silence about

00:52:30.580 her affair with mrs mr trump um she does go on to say i uh trump asked me michael cohen to pay off an

00:52:36.960 adult film star with whom he had an affair and to lie to his wife about it which i did lying to the

00:52:42.080 first lady is one of my biggest regrets she's a kind good person i respect her greatly and she did

00:52:46.540 not deserve that whether you believe michael cohen actually has having a moral moment or not

00:52:53.220 i mean again if if all of that is true does that make a difference

00:52:57.760 i mean i don't know i don't think so i you can't trust michael cohen at all yeah but legally even if

00:53:04.320 he wrote the checks and all of that is true well if he if again there is an issue with campaign

00:53:09.580 finance that could be a problem here uh they will certainly go after it and try to make it into a

00:53:13.560 problem i think if he used his own money wasn't it was it i can't remember now right was it that he

00:53:18.380 used his own money was a problem or that he didn't use his own money was a problem well cohen is

00:53:22.660 providing two checks one from donald trump's personal account and one from um the trump

00:53:28.220 organization so at least it kind of doesn't matter they kind of came from anywhere the question is

00:53:33.620 is his intent to hide the payments uh for a campaign use again i think it's a stretch with

00:53:40.500 the law can you can you can you bust somebody on that yes uh do you have to probably not people get

00:53:47.000 away with things like this all the time in the campaign finance world it's not as as much as i

00:53:50.620 think it should be illegal if you're paying people off to keep quiet uh while you're running for a

00:53:57.820 campaign i i think that's i think that's bad news but i don't think that's against the law

00:54:03.100 if you're using campaign money to do it you i don't think you can right right well because that

00:54:10.380 would be uh uh the problem is if he didn't if he used campaign money and didn't disclose it is the

00:54:16.760 biggest problem right uh which of course he obviously the whole point of this was not to

00:54:20.260 disclose it so he didn't do that we know the question is where did this money come from there's

00:54:23.980 no by the way signs that it came from the campaign right but that you know still there are very strange

00:54:28.720 lines around that again i don't think anybody's position has changed those who hate donald trump

00:54:33.760 hate donald trump those who like donald trump like donald trump so far nothing in his testimony

00:54:38.700 which by the way we're 20 minutes into his testimony and uh cummins is still talking this

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00:56:11.480 quickly give me an update jason on what we missed and then we'll take a little bit of the hearing i

00:56:29.600 think jim jordan is speaking so we want to take some of that it's uh it's it's pretty entertaining

00:56:33.860 actually he's saying that this is going to go down in history as your first called witness

00:56:37.840 uh is a liar to congress so he's he's really coming strong on uh this is this is purely partisan uh

00:56:45.260 nonsense and yeah there's no reason why a a liar should be the first person you called in your

00:56:50.820 committee he's saying the whole thing's orchestrated by lanny davis who's a known

00:56:54.880 clinton ally and has been for for a very long time uh so that's where this is is can we pick up a little

00:57:00.380 bit of the hearings here uh with jim jordan star witness in a hearing and there's a reason this is the

00:57:06.740 first because no other committee would do it think about this with mr cohen here this committee

00:57:13.740 we got lots of lawyers on this committee this committee is actually encouraging a witness to

00:57:19.340 violate attorney client privilege mr chairman when we legitimize dishonesty we delegitimize this

00:57:26.540 institution we're supposed to pursue the truth but you have stacked the deck against the truth

00:57:32.460 we're only allowed to ask certain questions even with that amendment you just told us about well

00:57:36.760 russia's now on the table you initially told us we can't ask questions about the special council

00:57:41.100 can't ask questions about the southern district of new york can't ask questions about russia nope

00:57:45.820 nope only subjects we can talk about are ones you think are going to be harmful to the president of

00:57:53.360 the united states and the answers to those questions are going to come from a guy who can't be trusted

00:57:59.680 here's what the u.s attorney said about mr cohen while mr cohen enjoyed a privileged life his desire

00:58:06.980 for ever greater wealth and influence precipitated an extensive course of criminal conduct mr cohen

00:58:14.100 committed four four distinct federal crimes over a period of several years he was motivated to do so by

00:58:21.520 personal greed and repeatedly repeatedly used his power and influence for deceptive ends

00:58:28.300 but the democrats don't care they don't care they just want to use you mr cohen you're their patsy

00:58:34.700 today they got to find somebody somewhere to say something so they can try to remove the president

00:58:42.260 from office because tom steyer told him to tom steyer last week organized the town hall guess where

00:58:50.800 chairman nadler's district in manhattan two nights ago tom steyer organized the town hall

00:58:56.800 guess where chairman cummings district in baltimore the best they can find the best they can find to

00:59:06.020 start this process michael cohen fraudster cheat convicted felon and in two months a federal inmate

00:59:13.960 well actually they didn't find him lady davis found him i'll say one thing about the democrats

00:59:19.320 they stick to the playbook remember remember how all this started the clinton campaign hired perkins cohen

00:59:28.540 law firm who hired glenn simpson who hired a foreigner christopher steel who put together the fake dossier

00:59:35.500 that the fbi used to go get a warrant to spy on the trump campaign but when that whole scheme failed

00:59:43.120 and the american people said we're going to make donald trump president they said we got to do

00:59:48.200 something else so now clinton loyalist clinton operative lanny davis has persuaded the chairman

00:59:56.100 of the oversight committee to give a convicted felon a forum to tell stories and lie about the president

01:00:04.800 of the united states so they can all start here's the thing and and jordan has credibility with me

01:00:10.660 i don't know where he stood before on cohen but he's generally a good guy and generally uh cares about

01:00:18.380 the truth and uh the system but i i will tell you this the republicans don't have any leg to stand on

01:00:25.600 either they loved cohen when he was defending the pro the president and he had no credibility then

01:00:31.700 either yeah i like jim jordan but uh lanny davis did not discover michael cohen michael cohen was in

01:00:37.040 the organization for a very long time that's why we know who he is and he was on television being sent

01:00:41.000 on television to defend the president for a very long time and a lot of people like that and he was

01:00:45.520 a liar then he's a liar now um there's just there's just not a lot uh to say it's now 26 minutes into his

01:00:54.280 testimony he hasn't spoken a word this is exactly what you'd expect from from this jason what are we

01:01:00.920 getting here we got about a minute before we have to go uh to break and we're gonna come back with

01:01:03.900 more of the testimony so uh jordan was just he said he yielded his time over just prematurely but he

01:01:08.920 was like oh wait a minute and then cummings was like no no yield your time and he's like but i have

01:01:12.440 a motion and he's like no not gonna let not hear your motion you're done and then jordan's like oh

01:01:16.300 that's how you're gonna operate okay i mean this is getting fiery it's just like this is this is the

01:01:21.420 show all right this is a it's a big show for both sides to get out their arguments and say that

01:01:28.000 they're you know trying really hard and tough and like look jordan's correct here cohen is uh has

01:01:33.980 zero credibility zero i mean he has it's really less than zero the guy has been lying basically

01:01:41.900 at every time you've ever seen him speak has been a lie so to bring him in and act as if he's credible

01:01:47.940 now is completely disingenuous from the democrats and it was also disingenuous from the republicans

01:01:52.740 when they were treating him credibly back in the day you know what's amazing to me is we have

01:01:57.080 actual issues going on presidents in north korea in vietnam talking about north korea i mean

01:02:03.320 that's going on we are special forces this week it was found out are now training for uh operations

01:02:11.720 against china and russia and de-emphasizing the middle east and terror this started because of china

01:02:20.900 and russia and there's nobody talking about that this is not about actually finding any truth

01:02:27.440 and anything that is going to help the american people this is a political and you said it right

01:02:33.060 show all the world has become a stage and we're just watching a show while the real moves are being made

01:02:42.980 by russia and china and the financial and tech centers what are we doing what are we doing america wake up

01:02:52.720 you're listening to glenn beck you know i'd like to do i'd like to put all of these people

01:03:02.800 all of them into a liberty safe and then forget the combination i think i think we could if we could

01:03:12.600 just we have to figure out a way to make one big enough and then i don't know we put piles of this

01:03:19.140 this free money you can spend and no cameras and then they'll all be lured in to like this giant

01:03:26.420 politician trap and then we close the liberty safe on them and then we're just like through the air

01:03:31.380 holes just lower in food occasionally uh i never thought of air holes yeah i'll consider it anyway

01:03:37.500 liberty liberty liberty safe you're gonna put air holes in and then lower it down into what

01:03:44.060 the ocean that's no i said it was gonna lower down food into it as i said i don't i don't think that's

01:03:49.460 what you're gonna say your stupid right now liberty safe has a sale at your local cabela's

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01:03:58.640 more of the testimony with michael cohen and all of his super truth coming up on the other side of

01:04:05.020 the break here in the glenbeck program

01:04:06.460 ben sass coming up in the glenbeck program in just a few minutes uh we are listening to michael cohen

01:04:28.580 uh deliver his opening statement he's currently talking about who he is um a loving father

01:04:34.720 my first instinct has always been to help those in need yeah his first instinct comes because of his

01:04:40.780 mom and dad i let you down they were survivors of the holocaust as the many people that know me best

01:04:47.160 would say i am the person that they call at 3 a.m if they needed help i proudly remember being the

01:04:56.540 sheriff's commission whose command at un celular will have a free statement on the m after storage

01:05:00.820 so their parents have been in regular storage and to head to help stay active in their homes

01:05:02.720 because their parents knew that i would drop everything and care for them as if they

01:05:07.920 were my own.

01:05:09.880 Yet last fall I pled guilty in federal court to felonies for the benefit of at the direction

01:05:18.020 of and in coordination with individual number one.

01:05:24.220 For the record, individual number one is President Donald J. Trump.

01:05:35.080 This is painful to admit that I was motivated by ambition at times.

01:05:41.420 It is even more painful to admit that many times I ignored my conscience and acted loyal to a man when I should not have.

01:05:49.960 Sitting here today, it seems unbelievable that I was so mesmerized by Donald Trump that I was willing to do things for him that I knew were absolutely wrong.

01:06:01.780 He was mesmerized. He was hypnotized.

01:06:06.560 I mean, listen to this.

01:06:08.080 To my government and to the American people.

01:06:12.360 Accordingly, let me now tell you about Mr. Trump.

01:06:17.560 I got to know him very well.

01:06:19.960 Working very closely with him for more than 10 years as his Executive Vice President and Special Counsel.

01:06:27.560 And then as personal attorney when he became President.

01:06:31.540 When I first met Mr. Trump, he was a successful entrepreneur.

01:06:36.340 A real estate giant.

01:06:38.660 And an icon.

01:06:40.720 Being around Mr. Trump was intoxicating.

01:06:43.360 When you were in his presence, you felt like you were involved in something greater than yourself.

01:06:48.780 That you were somehow changing the world.

01:06:53.100 I wound up touting the Trump narrative for over a decade.

01:06:57.480 That was my job.

01:06:59.340 Always stay on message.

01:07:02.120 Always defend.

01:07:04.360 It monopolized my life.

01:07:06.300 At first, I worked mostly on real estate developments and other business transactions.

01:07:12.620 Shortly thereafter, Mr. Trump brought me into his personal life.

01:07:17.760 The reason why we are monitoring this, by the way, is not because we believe him.

01:07:22.060 I don't believe him.

01:07:23.300 I didn't believe him when everybody on the Trump campaign told us to believe him.

01:07:28.320 This guy is a very bad guy.

01:07:30.520 But you should know the worst that they have.

01:07:33.060 This is where they're starting.

01:07:35.820 With this guy.

01:07:38.020 You know, you usually don't open up with a liar and a discredited figure.

01:07:45.620 You start with something that you really have and you're excited to share.

01:07:50.380 Everything that we know of, he has very little evidence except, well, I saw it firsthand.

01:07:55.020 He is capable of being loyal, but he is fundamentally disloyal.

01:08:01.300 Donald Trump is a man who ran for office to make his brand great, not to make our country great.

01:08:08.660 He had no desire or intention to lead this nation, only to market himself and to build his wealth and power.

01:08:17.020 Mr. Trump would often say, this campaign was going to be the greatest infomercial in political history.

01:08:26.780 He never expected to win the primary.

01:08:29.680 He never expected to win the general election.

01:08:32.780 The campaign, for him, was always a marketing opportunity.

01:08:40.440 I knew early on in my work for Mr. Trump that he would direct me to lie, to further his business interests.

01:08:46.580 You know, here's what's interesting, Stu.

01:08:52.220 This is the problem with our society right now.

01:08:55.960 Without any evidence, this guy is getting out and saying all of these things.

01:09:01.040 And for me, these are the things I was saying about the Trump campaign.

01:09:07.060 He's just, it's marketing.

01:09:08.240 He doesn't expect to win, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:09:11.560 And I was saying those things.

01:09:13.300 So his testimony appeals to the worst part of me that says, yes, see, see, he's saying what you thought.

01:09:22.580 But that's the problem with our society.

01:09:25.040 We are either not watching or we're watching based on how it makes us feel.

01:09:31.160 And this is how CNN is watching, right?

01:09:32.600 Exactly right.

01:09:33.480 They're saying, oh, yeah, he said this racist thing in a car with Michael Cohen.

01:09:36.660 I believe it because that's what I believe about him.

01:09:38.340 Because that's what I believe.

01:09:39.160 You can't take this guy for any reason.

01:09:45.100 You have no reason to believe this guy.

01:09:47.560 Except he has evidence on some things.

01:09:49.720 However, there are things that we already knew occurred, like the payments to Stormy Daniels.

01:09:54.200 He does have evidence of some of that stuff, but it does not seem to be that he has evidence of anything new.

01:09:59.540 He has claims that I have not heard before, but those claims are not backed up by any evidence.

01:10:03.780 Correct.

01:10:04.400 So we want to see what evidence he does have.

01:10:08.840 Yeah.

01:10:10.620 But all of the stuff that you're listening to, whether you are cheering for it or you are jeering, don't do either.

01:10:18.420 Don't do either.

01:10:21.200 Here's the racist stuff.

01:10:22.240 Here's a racist.

01:10:22.720 Listen to this.

01:10:23.200 Court, white supremacists and bigots.

01:10:26.500 He may be swearing here.

01:10:27.680 You may want to pull this down.

01:10:28.560 Pull this down.

01:10:29.020 Pull this down.

01:10:29.380 Pull this down.

01:10:30.120 Because there is a swear word in his testimony here.

01:10:32.960 What's he saying?

01:10:33.520 He's talking about the crap hole countries in which he says the full word in the testimony.

01:10:38.540 I don't know if he's going to say it for sure here, but I don't want our stations to get it.

01:10:41.720 He did say the whole thing.

01:10:42.640 He just said it.

01:10:42.980 Bring it back up.

01:10:43.540 You're welcome, stations.

01:10:44.560 You're welcome.

01:10:46.300 And while we were once driving through a struggling neighborhood in Chicago,

01:10:49.840 he commented that only black people could live that way.

01:10:54.520 And he told me that black people would never vote for him because they were too stupid.

01:11:01.100 And yet, I continue to work for him.

01:11:05.180 You believe that?

01:11:08.900 Mr. Trump is a cheat.

01:11:10.580 I don't believe it either.

01:11:11.480 I don't believe his, uh, I feel really bad about what I've done stuff.

01:11:14.720 I am giving to the committee today.

01:11:16.000 He just has a new goal.

01:11:17.180 Three years of Mr. Trump's personal financial statements from 2011, 2012, and 2013.

01:11:22.520 He's only, he's only changed sides because he ran his race, you know, with Donald Trump

01:11:29.680 as far as he could run, he got into trouble, he's now trying to save his butt, and this

01:11:34.480 will help him sell books.

01:11:35.500 One A, one B, and one C to my testimony.

01:11:39.520 It was my experience that Mr. Trump inflated his total assets when it served his purposes,

01:11:46.340 such as trying to be listed amongst the wealthiest people in Forbes, and deflated his assets

01:11:53.500 to reduce his real estate taxes.

01:11:57.460 I'm sharing with you two newspaper articles, side by side, that are examples of Mr. Trump

01:12:04.460 inflating and deflating his assets, as I said, to suit his financial interests.

01:12:10.280 Shut up.

01:12:10.560 So, in other words, he'll make himself look good to some people for some times, and then

01:12:16.920 if it's in his, if it's a benefit of him, he'll say the opposite?

01:12:22.780 Shut up.

01:12:23.580 I mean, if it's taxes, though, is the benefit that could be an issue.

01:12:26.560 Yeah, if it's taxes, then show me the tax records.

01:12:28.840 Right.

01:12:29.280 And that's what he said.

01:12:30.000 He says he has these.

01:12:30.680 He's backing it up with two newspaper articles.

01:12:33.000 He did say, also, that he has several years of financial statements that he gave to Deutsche

01:12:38.400 Bank, so that is something that I'm sure that will be of interest of the Democrats here.

01:12:43.200 Oh, especially with Deutsche Bank.

01:12:44.580 Deutsche Bank is a lot of shady stuff going on there.

01:12:47.840 A lot of shady, money laundering bank with the Russians.

01:12:52.360 At least that's what they say.

01:12:53.640 $60,000.

01:12:55.860 Mr. Trump directed the Trump Foundation, which is supposed to be a charitable organization,

01:13:02.340 to repay the fake bidder, despite keeping the art for himself.

01:13:06.400 And please see Exhibit 3B to my testimony.

01:13:12.720 And it should come as no surprise that one of my more common responsibilities was that

01:13:19.260 Mr. Trump directed me to call business owners, many of whom are small businesses that were

01:13:25.900 owed money for their services, and told them that no payment or a reduced payment would be

01:13:32.680 coming.

01:13:34.680 When I asked Mr. Trump, or when I told Mr. Trump of my success, he actually reveled in

01:13:40.760 it.

01:13:41.800 And yet, I continued to work for him.

01:13:45.080 I bet you reveled in it as well.

01:13:47.500 Mr. Trump is a con man.

01:13:49.740 So are you.

01:13:50.340 He asked me to pay off an adult film star with whom he had an affair, and to lie about it to

01:13:57.140 his wife, which I did.

01:13:59.940 And lying to the First Lady is one of my biggest regrets, because she is a kind, good person,

01:14:07.300 and I respect her greatly.

01:14:08.980 I don't believe any of this.

01:14:10.960 Tommy Knuckles could be giving this same testimony, and I'd look.

01:14:14.900 You're a mobster, man.

01:14:16.440 You're a mobster.

01:14:17.340 I don't believe a word of what you're saying.

01:14:19.600 All of this stuff may or may not have happened.

01:14:22.980 You can't take a word this guy says.

01:14:27.340 I mean, you want to talk about the, you know, shadow of a doubt.

01:14:33.240 I'm looking for the pinhole of light.

01:14:36.140 Right.

01:14:36.660 It's like victory or death.

01:14:38.000 With Cohen, it's evidence or nothing.

01:14:40.380 It's either he has evidence, or you shouldn't even hear the words he's saying.

01:14:42.920 To avoid any money being traced back to him that could negatively impact his campaign.

01:14:52.220 And I did that, too, without bothering to consider whether that was improper, much less whether

01:14:58.920 it was the right thing to do, or how would it impact me?

01:15:02.240 Okay, so far, nothing new.

01:15:04.800 We're going to continue to follow this.

01:15:06.660 Jason's going to follow it in the break, and then we have Ben Sasse on the other side,

01:15:10.380 so stand by.

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01:16:54.920 It is only Wednesday, and this week already, Democrats voted against protecting newborns who were born alive

01:17:03.780 so the doctor or their parents could kill the child.

01:17:07.360 Now those same people who want us to be able to kill baby bring us a con man, convicted felon,

01:17:14.400 and perjurer to try to tell us this person can be trusted.

01:17:18.600 We have to hear the truth.

01:17:20.480 Ben Sasse is here.

01:17:21.480 What is the state of the American soul, Ben?

01:17:26.600 Oh, Glenn, that's too big for a Wednesday morning.

01:17:31.320 Monday night in the Senate was a shameful disgrace.

01:17:35.060 I mean, I remain optimistic about the pro-life movement in the long term.

01:17:38.780 So do I.

01:17:39.160 For a whole bunch of reasons.

01:17:40.940 But one of the basic ones is there's a lot more imaging technology in the world.

01:17:44.920 And what we find is as people see more 3D images of what's happening in utero,

01:17:49.120 they recognize that a baby is a baby.

01:17:50.940 The pro-baby position and the pro-compassion position, the pro-science position,

01:17:54.640 actually are all the same one.

01:17:55.980 Yep.

01:17:56.100 So I'm optimistic.

01:17:57.660 But America's soul on display, at least through its supposedly greatest deliberative body,

01:18:02.340 Monday night was tragic.

01:18:04.080 So, Ben, what does this say to—I think, and I don't know where the cutoff is with God,

01:18:10.740 but I believe in an American covenant that was started with George Washington,

01:18:14.080 and that he will withdraw his protection.

01:18:16.720 And I think some of that has been withdrawn slowly.

01:18:19.100 But when we can't say, hey, we're not going to kill newborns, and everybody knows that's infanticide,

01:18:28.240 I think that's—I think God withdraws from that.

01:18:32.460 What does that say about the Democratic presidential candidates?

01:18:39.060 I mean, what's going to happen to the Democratic Party when they embrace the worst possible position

01:18:44.700 and say, yep, we're okay with that?

01:18:46.540 Yeah, I mean, so let's distinguish between one really big point and then a smaller political point.

01:18:51.960 But the first and bigger point, bigger than politics, is it shouldn't be right versus left

01:18:56.740 to affirm human dignity.

01:18:58.440 When we believe—the American experiment is premised on the idea that everybody's an image-bearer,

01:19:03.560 that God created people with dignity and with rights.

01:19:06.760 Government is not the author or source of your rights.

01:19:09.220 Government is just our shared project.

01:19:11.000 It's a tool to secure rights that we've already been given by God.

01:19:14.500 And you have to affirm universal dignity to understand what America's about.

01:19:19.160 That is not Republican versus Democrat.

01:19:21.560 It should be bigger than that.

01:19:22.960 Now, the much narrower political point is there's so much broken tribalism in our country that

01:19:28.640 we're not having a conversation that pretends the 320 million of us are in anything together.

01:19:34.340 And so you had 44 Democrats and 100 people in the U.S. Senate vote against a resolution Monday night

01:19:40.420 that was really just condemning infanticide.

01:19:42.800 I'm as pro-life as they come, and unapologetically so.

01:19:46.000 But our bill Monday night wasn't actually about abortion.

01:19:48.680 It didn't touch Roe v. Wade.

01:19:50.080 It didn't have anything to do with abortion access.

01:19:51.740 It's about babies that have already been born alive.

01:19:55.160 And we had, I think, six Democrats—I was floor manager Monday afternoon in route to the vote.

01:19:58.940 And I think we had six Democrats make speeches, and four of them were just filled with blatant lies

01:20:04.060 talking about health of the mother in the second trimester and debates that are messier

01:20:08.680 than what we're actually talking about here.

01:20:10.740 Their stuff had nothing to do with the bill whatsoever.

01:20:14.420 They were making up stuff that isn't anywhere in the text of the bill at all.

01:20:18.780 And I think they think they can get away with lying like that simply because they know that

01:20:23.680 America's tribal enough that people only listen inside their own silos, and they're not going

01:20:27.860 to be called to account because they're talking to people who already agreed with them.

01:20:31.000 That's how a republic dies.

01:20:32.940 We're supposed to believe some stuff in common.

01:20:35.200 Ben, I can't thank you enough for making this stand and pushing and standing tall on this

01:20:41.260 and firm.

01:20:42.800 We are behind you, and we support you on this effort and many of the other efforts.

01:20:48.780 You are a guy who possibly can bring us back together.

01:20:53.140 And as strange as this may sound, abortion in the end may be one of those things that

01:20:58.600 brings us back together because the left has gone so far.

01:21:03.120 They're in the territory of a Jason movie almost.

01:21:06.780 Senator Ben Sasse, thank you so much for joining us.

01:21:09.080 Back in just a minute.

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01:22:42.600 We go back to the Cohen testimony here.

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01:22:50.160 Give you the update, and then the testimony.

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01:25:43.720 Jim Jordan is now taking on Cohen and really mocking him,

01:25:57.320 talking about Twitter accounts and what's he saying exactly?

01:26:00.520 How long did you work for Donald Trump?

01:26:04.920 Approximately a decade.

01:26:06.560 Ten years?

01:26:07.200 That's correct.

01:26:09.060 You said all these bad things about the president there in that last 30 minutes,

01:26:12.620 and yet you worked for him for 10 years?

01:26:16.120 All those bad things, I mean, it's that bad.

01:26:18.940 I can see you working for him for 10 days, maybe 10 weeks, maybe even 10 months.

01:26:26.060 But you worked for him for 10 years.

01:26:29.460 Mr. Cohen, how long did you work in the White House?

01:26:33.200 I never worked in the White House.

01:26:34.920 That's the point, isn't it, Mr. Cohen?

01:26:36.320 No, sir.

01:26:36.820 Yes, it is.

01:26:37.660 No, it's not, sir.

01:26:38.360 You wanted to work in the White House.

01:26:39.840 No, sir.

01:26:40.240 You didn't get brought to the dance.

01:26:41.600 Sir.

01:26:41.900 Now?

01:26:42.420 I was extremely proud to be personal attorney to the president of the United States of America.

01:26:50.120 I did not want to go to the White House.

01:26:52.560 I was offered jobs.

01:26:54.020 I can tell you a story of Mr. Trump reaming out Reince Priebus because I had not taken

01:27:01.020 a job where Mr. Trump wanted me to, which is working with Don McGahn at the White House

01:27:05.900 General Counsel's office.

01:27:06.940 Mr. Cohen, you worked for the president.

01:27:08.200 Sorry, one second.

01:27:09.560 All right.

01:27:09.700 What I said at the time, and I brought a lawyer in who produced a memo as to why I should

01:27:16.460 not go in because there would be no attorney-client privilege, and in order to handle some of the

01:27:22.680 matters that I talked about in my opening, that it would be best suited for me not to

01:27:28.260 go in.

01:27:28.960 Listen to this.

01:27:29.640 Every president has a personal attorney.

01:27:31.940 Because I didn't take the job because of attorney-client privilege on all the things

01:27:36.780 I just told you about.

01:27:37.940 Didn't get a job in the White House.

01:27:38.760 Wait.

01:27:39.080 What?

01:27:39.700 And now you're behaving just like everyone else who's got fired or didn't get the job

01:27:45.360 they wanted, like Andy McCabe, like James Comey, same kind of selfish motivation after

01:27:51.020 you don't get the thing you want.

01:27:52.820 That's what I see here today, and I think that's what the American people-

01:27:55.040 Mr. Jordan, all I wanted was what I got, to be personal attorney to the president, to enjoy

01:28:01.240 the senior year of my son in high school and waiting for my daughter, who's graduating

01:28:06.160 from college, to come back to New York.

01:28:08.500 I got exactly what I want.

01:28:12.520 Prison sentence?

01:28:13.380 That's right.

01:28:15.040 I received exactly what I wanted.

01:28:17.280 Gentlemen, time has expired.

01:28:19.620 Ms. Washington, yourselves.

01:28:21.400 Oh, gosh.

01:28:22.760 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

01:28:23.600 She's still around?

01:28:25.000 Yeah.

01:28:25.420 Mr. Cohen, thank you for being here today.

01:28:27.340 Still with Poodle here.

01:28:29.140 As you likely know, I served as the chair of the Democratic National Committee at the

01:28:32.140 time of the Russian hacks, and when Russia weaponized the messages that it had stolen.

01:28:37.820 But I want to be clear.

01:28:39.520 My questions are not about the harm done to any individual by WikiLeaks and the Russians.

01:28:43.580 You lost your gig because of this, of course.

01:28:45.040 The possible and likely harm to the United States of America and our democracy.

01:28:49.600 I'm going to accuse you of not doing something bad because you didn't get a gig you wanted.

01:28:54.560 But, of course, I also lost my gig because of this exact same thing.

01:28:57.880 No motivation there.

01:28:58.820 Of the Russia WikiLeaks release of the DNC's e-mails.

01:29:05.740 I cannot answer that in a yes or no.

01:29:09.180 He had advanced notice that there was going to be a dump of e-mails.

01:29:14.020 But at no time did I hear the specificity of what those e-mails were going to be.

01:29:19.480 But you do testify today that he had advanced knowledge of their imminent release.

01:29:25.500 That's right.

01:29:27.500 He never had contact with the president and barely could get contact with Bannon.

01:29:30.960 Just wanted to point that out.

01:29:32.640 Did Mr. Trump likely share this information with his daughter Ivanka?

01:29:35.820 Stop for just a second.

01:29:36.840 I think it's really important that you understand what Cohen is saying.

01:29:42.080 And he is going against what the FBI said happened.

01:29:47.400 The FBI said Cohen, he couldn't, he was frustrated.

01:29:51.720 He couldn't get access to the president.

01:29:54.600 So he never told them about the WikiLeaks thing.

01:29:57.500 He could only get a hold of Bannon.

01:30:00.280 And Bannon would say it.

01:30:02.420 Now, Cohen is saying that he heard a phone call from Stone explaining, hey, WikiLeaks is going to do this thing.

01:30:11.840 So are we expected to believe the FBI or Cohen or Stone?

01:30:17.580 I mean, is it possible?

01:30:19.020 It's possible, right?

01:30:19.940 He could have been, he could have been communicating with the president through other means, right?

01:30:23.620 A different phone number that the, that the FBI didn't get a hold of.

01:30:26.700 You know, I'm sure what the FBI looked at was his, his cell phone and his text.

01:30:30.760 Possible that that doesn't explain Stone's frustration.

01:30:33.700 Right.

01:30:34.080 Unless, unless he's, you know, lying, which he always is.

01:30:36.780 Again, I wouldn't say that I think that there's any evidence for Cohen here.

01:30:39.760 This is Cohen's word and I should always dismiss Cohen's word on its own.

01:30:42.860 I will tell you between Stone, Cohen and the FBI, I'm going with the FBI.

01:30:47.260 Absolutely.

01:30:47.900 So, um, uh, you have to believe one of the three or don't believe any of them.

01:30:53.280 And if that's the case, then turn this thing, the whole thing off.

01:30:56.260 Cause it doesn't matter if this is the kind of, of evidence that you have.

01:31:02.240 Now, the other thing is he talks about this Trump tower, which she's going at.

01:31:06.020 He's always said, I didn't know anything about the meeting of Trump tower, but there's a new thing where he says, oh, I,

01:31:12.420 I did know about it, but I didn't know I knew about it until much later.

01:31:17.980 Listen to this.

01:31:19.580 So he said the reason why he knew about the Trump tower meeting is because he recalled that at one point he was sitting in the Oval Office and Don Jr.

01:31:28.120 walked up behind the Oval Office desk.

01:31:29.760 Cause he said, remembers that was odd and said, the meeting is on.

01:31:33.120 And then Trump said, good, good.

01:31:35.900 Let me know how it goes.

01:31:36.800 Okay.

01:31:37.040 Notice there was no mention of which meeting or the content of anything.

01:31:40.620 It was just that it was Russia.

01:31:42.100 The meeting is on.

01:31:43.080 My understanding is in 2017, Donald Trump only had one meeting.

01:31:46.400 Yes, that's right.

01:31:46.980 And this was it.

01:31:48.600 So I think, so here he is now, he's currently giving a testimony about conversations about Russia.

01:31:56.040 I understand, but you have a tremendous amount of experience.

01:31:59.120 Mr. Trump is all about winning and he will do what is necessary.

01:32:04.240 And in your opinion and experience, would he have the potential to cooperate or collude with a foreign power to win the presidency at all costs?

01:32:16.940 Yes.

01:32:18.500 Based on what you know.

01:32:20.140 Wow.

01:32:20.600 Would Mr. Trump.

01:32:21.380 I mean, I don't.

01:32:21.960 Why should I believe him?

01:32:24.020 About colluding and coordinating with the Russians at any point during the campaign.

01:32:31.020 So as I stated in my testimony, I wouldn't use the word colluding.

01:32:38.660 Was there something odd about the back and forth praise with President Putin?

01:32:47.900 Yes.

01:32:49.480 But I'm not really sure that I can answer that question.

01:32:52.800 What the hell is that?

01:32:54.000 I thought it was odd too, but that's not.

01:32:57.080 Call me up to testify.

01:32:59.020 What the hell does that mean?

01:33:00.840 We all thought that was odd.

01:33:03.220 Yeah.

01:33:03.300 There's just so many dots that all seem to lead to the same direction.

01:33:09.340 Unbelievable.

01:33:09.840 The campaign and the entire Trump organization appeared to be filthy with Russian contact.

01:33:19.640 There are Russian business contacts.

01:33:22.380 There are campaign Russian contacts.

01:33:26.720 There are lies about all of those contacts.

01:33:30.200 And then we have Roger Stone informing the president just before the Democratic National Convention

01:33:36.120 that these that WikiLeaks was going to drop documents in the public arena

01:33:42.540 that we knew at that point were hacked and stolen by Russia from the Democratic National Committee.

01:33:49.180 The gentle lady's time has expired.

01:33:51.480 You may answer her inquiry.

01:33:53.380 My question is, given all those connections, is it likely that Donald Trump was fully aware

01:34:02.620 and had every intent of working with Russia to help make sure that he could win the presidency at office?

01:34:08.680 This is the kind of trial you get in Russia.

01:34:11.340 Let me say that this is a matter of...

01:34:12.240 There's no evidence at all.

01:34:14.720 ...by the House Select and the Senate Select Intelligence Committees,

01:34:18.800 and so I would rather not answer that specific question other than just to tell you

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01:34:33.620 And one other thing that I had said in my statement is that when it came to the Trump Tower Moscow project,

01:34:42.940 it was worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and we never expected to win the election.

01:34:50.940 So this was just business as usual.

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01:36:18.320 All right, from Tennessee, we go now to Congressman Green.

01:36:35.980 He's a Republican.

01:36:36.680 A couple of topics say that I can ask Mr. Cohen about the president's compliance with financial disclosures and campaign finance laws.

01:36:43.780 But didn't Mr. Cohen on two occasions break campaign finance law with his own donations?

01:36:49.640 So, again, the majority party's star witness on the president's compliance is a guy who broke compliance laws himself.

01:36:58.340 Mr. Chairman, you graciously allow us to ask questions of Mr. Cohen on the president's dealings with the IRS and tax law.

01:37:06.280 Your star witness here broke the law with regards to the IRS at least five times.

01:37:11.940 He pled guilty on cheating on his taxes, lying to the IRS.

01:37:15.220 He's the best witness you got.

01:37:16.740 Next up, with the permission of the chairman, I get to ask Mr. Cohen about his perspective on the president's business dealings.

01:37:25.440 Let me get this straight.

01:37:27.040 The witness lied to multiple financial institutions to get loans to pay off other loans just to keep himself afloat,

01:37:35.600 and he's going to be the expert on business practices.

01:37:40.080 Obviously, Mr. Chairman, the witness might produce documents that he suggests incriminates the president,

01:37:44.420 yet he lies to banks.

01:37:47.380 All of those lies were done on fraudulent documents, documents that he forged.

01:37:55.120 Nothing he says or produces has any credibility.

01:37:59.060 Apparently, he even lied about delivering his own child, which his wife had to correct the record of.

01:38:04.540 Ladies and gentlemen, how on earth is this witness credible?

01:38:08.980 He's not.

01:38:09.360 With all the lies and deception, the self-serving fraud, it begs the question.

01:38:13.620 I have to tell you, if I were Michael Cohen, me, I'm not saying him, me, my reputation, my word means so much to me,

01:38:28.300 I think I would leave that room because he knows all of that stuff is true that he just said.

01:38:33.660 I would have a hard time not putting a gun in my mouth.

01:38:37.540 I would realize the gravity of what I have done.

01:38:41.000 I have destroyed the only thing that is truly mine, and that is my name, my reputation.

01:38:48.400 There's not a person in the world that should believe me.

01:38:53.260 You'd have to believe that you were in very dark moments, for sure.

01:38:56.120 Really dark moments.

01:38:57.040 I wouldn't make, personally, me, I would not make it through that.

01:38:59.920 If this moral transformation is real, and he said this, Cohen has said that he's been in very dark places,

01:39:06.760 whether that's true or not from him, I just don't think you can trust him.

01:39:10.220 No, I can't either.

01:39:11.300 I can't either.

01:39:12.140 And I don't see, and everybody treats it differently, so I don't want to judge a man's heart.

01:39:17.560 You're saying you personally, of course.

01:39:17.960 But I don't see remorse from him physically.

01:39:22.680 Again, everybody reacts differently, so I don't want to judge the man's heart.

01:39:26.220 But who's paid my expense to be here today?

01:39:28.820 I paid my expenses.

01:39:31.280 Mr. Chairman, I'd like to yield the remaining of my time to the ranking member.

01:39:36.780 Mr. Cohen, how many times did you talk to the special counsel's office?

01:39:40.820 Seven.

01:39:41.220 Did they talk to you at all in preparation for today's hearing between the seven times you talked to him prior to your sentencing?

01:39:49.480 Have you had any conversations with the special counsel's office between sentencing and today?

01:39:53.520 I'm sorry, sir.

01:39:54.020 I don't understand your question.

01:39:55.580 You talked to him seven times.

01:39:56.820 That's in the sentencing memorandums that were in front of the court back in December.

01:40:01.100 What I'm asking is how many times have you talked to the special counsel's office since then up to today's appearance here in Congress?

01:40:08.300 The gentleman's time has expired.

01:40:10.020 You may answer the question now.

01:40:11.220 That one question.

01:40:12.380 I'm sorry, I don't have the answer to that.

01:40:13.720 Ms. Maloney.

01:40:14.680 I don't have the answer to that?

01:40:17.020 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

01:40:18.860 And Mr. Cohen, in your 10 years of working for Donald Trump, did he control everything that went on in the Trump organization?

01:40:28.860 And did you have to get his permission in advance and report back after every meeting of any importance?

01:40:38.860 Yes.

01:40:39.140 There was nothing that happened at the Trump organization, from whether it was a response, as the Daily Beast story that you referred to, ranking member, that did not go through Mr. Trump with his approval and sign-off, as in the case of the payments.

01:41:03.340 How many times did the President, Michael, ask you or direct you to try to reach settlements with women in 2015 and 2016?

01:41:17.380 I'm sorry, ma'am. I'm sorry, ma'am. I don't have the answer to that. I'd have to go back and try to recollect. It's certainly the two that we know about.

01:41:27.060 And why do you think the President did not provide the accurate information in his 2017 financial disclosure form?

01:41:39.860 What was he trying to hide? He corrected other forms, but he didn't correct this one.

01:41:44.480 The payment on the reimbursement of the funds that I extended on his behalf.

01:41:53.600 Can you elaborate more?

01:41:56.520 Well, going back into the story, as I stated, when we, Alan Weisselberg and I left the office and we went to his office,

01:42:03.600 in order to make the determination on how the money was going to be wired to the IOLA, the interest on a lawyer's account for Keith Davidson in California.

01:42:15.000 I had asked Alan to use his money. Didn't want to use mine.

01:42:20.080 And he said he couldn't. And we then decided how else we can do it.

01:42:25.780 And he asked me whether or not I know anybody who wants to have a party at one of his clubs that could pay me instead,

01:42:32.500 or somebody who may have wanted to become a member of one of the golf clubs.

01:42:38.740 And I also don't have anybody that was interested in that.

01:42:42.340 And it got to the point where it was down to the wire.

01:42:45.140 It was either we, somebody wired the funds and purchased the life rights to the story from Miss Clifford.

01:42:54.400 So look at that, listen to this, look at how this guy, how much he had to go through to get a hundred and what is it?

01:43:03.700 A hundred fifty thousand dollars. How, how many hoops he had to look, but he can't recall in two years, how many times,

01:43:12.840 how many times he had to jump through those hoops.

01:43:15.360 He certainly wanted to make you think it's more than two.

01:43:17.380 Correct. Correct. It may, the answer is probably zero. It may be 10.

01:43:22.100 Well, it's definitely two. It's definitely two. And you don't answer that the way he did. You just don't.

01:43:29.880 You could say, madam, I don't know. It's more than two, but I don't know.

01:43:34.660 Instead, he said, it's definitely two.

01:43:37.840 Well, that doesn't help anything. That just is, you're creating the illusion.

01:43:43.100 Yeah, illusion that it could be 17. Right. But it's no evidence that it's 17.

01:43:46.700 Dylan Howard and others where they would contact me or Mr. Trump or someone and state that there's a story that's percolating out there that you may be interested in.

01:43:58.960 And then what you do is you contact that individual and you purchase the rights to that story from them.

01:44:05.460 All right. Okay. We're going to take a quick break here coming up in a second.

01:44:11.080 By the way, that question came from Miss Maloney, which rhymes with baloney.

01:44:15.780 I don't know if you. Wow.

01:44:17.520 See, you're not going to get that on CNN. No, you're not going to get that on CNN.

01:44:20.360 They didn't even cover that. No.

01:44:21.640 MSNBC ignoring it. They won't even have the balls to say that.

01:44:24.680 They don't have the balls to say that.

01:44:26.000 Here's baloney Maloney. Oh, my gosh. With her question.

01:44:29.540 Wow. You pushed the buttons of Washington today. Thank you. Thank you.

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01:45:42.060 And you can see Glenn in D.C. on the show tomorrow, or on Friday at least, if you go to BlazeTV.com slash BECK.

01:45:50.360 The promo code is BECK.

01:45:51.700 Hi.

01:46:07.240 The worst. I'm so disappointed in you, Stu.

01:46:09.880 Are you?

01:46:10.400 These are important questions.

01:46:13.480 These are really important questions.

01:46:15.720 And you just, you fail to see the important, you have Ms. Norton.

01:46:21.680 Yeah. Hi.

01:46:22.560 I just want to say, the Access Hollywood tape.

01:46:25.620 Yeah.

01:46:26.020 That, that, that had a lot of-

01:46:27.200 It's an important thing.

01:46:28.300 This is a congressional hearing.

01:46:30.060 Had a lot of hits on the website.

01:46:32.420 Yeah.

01:46:32.620 And it, uh, shut down the, the newspaper servers.

01:46:35.880 It did.

01:46:36.400 It set a record for a lot of hits in a, a lot of short time.

01:46:40.340 Access Hollywood.

01:46:41.080 And that was a tape that was out for the people to, uh, hear and see.

01:46:46.420 And what did your-

01:46:47.080 And-

01:46:47.420 What's your question?

01:46:48.200 And people went on the internet, which is a series of tubes that creates information and

01:46:53.360 collects it, like a bank tube, and it goes from one side of, one side of your computer

01:46:59.480 to the other, and then over to your neighbor's computer, and then continues to go down your

01:47:03.840 street until it leaves your street and goes into the center of town at that time.

01:47:07.400 Uh, is, uh, then able to be passed along to other areas of the country through the tubes

01:47:13.600 carried by small hamsters who walk the information to the computer that you're designing.

01:47:19.720 Uh, but, uh, yep.

01:47:21.480 Mr. Chairman, I would just ask.

01:47:23.580 That the gentlewoman is, is please instructed to shut up.

01:47:28.780 She's hurting our case.

01:47:30.780 I mean, you have this big moment in front of national TV, this, you know, Michael Cohen,

01:47:34.840 you have a very short amount of time, and she's legitimately praising the web stats of

01:47:38.600 the Access Hollywood video.

01:47:40.200 Well, because she, because Cohen needed to say, Hope Hicks asked me to call the networks

01:47:45.520 and spin the Access Hollywood tape.

01:47:47.840 Now-

01:47:48.360 He's working for the campaign, yes.

01:47:50.280 That's what they all do.

01:47:51.420 Of course he's spinning.

01:47:52.460 Who was surprised by this?

01:47:55.980 Go ahead.

01:47:56.660 Bring, bring, bring this in.

01:47:58.300 The Access Hollywood study in terms of impact on the election.

01:48:03.000 I was concerned about it, but more importantly, Mr. Trump was concerned about it.

01:48:08.420 And that was my next question.

01:48:09.840 What was the president's concern about these matters becoming public in October?

01:48:15.600 What do you think?

01:48:16.600 What do you think?

01:48:16.620 This is so ridiculous.

01:48:19.120 What was the-

01:48:19.860 I don't think anybody would dispute this belief that after the wildfire that encompassed the

01:48:30.200 Billy Bush tape that a second follow-up to it would have been pleasant?

01:48:36.620 And he was concerned with the effect that it had had on the campaign, on how women were seeing him, and ultimately whether or not he would have a shot in the general election.

01:48:53.160 And so you negotiated the $130,000 payment.

01:48:56.680 But it had nothing to do with that.

01:48:58.580 The $130,000 number was not a number that was actually negotiated.

01:49:03.040 It was told to me by Keith Davidson that this is a number that Ms. Clifford wanted.

01:49:08.940 Well, you finally completed that deal, as it were, on October the 25th, days before the election.

01:49:18.740 What happened in the interim?

01:49:22.300 Contemplated whether or not to do it.

01:49:26.260 Wasn't sure if she was really going to go public.

01:49:29.900 It was, again, some communications back and forth between myself and Keith Davidson.

01:49:34.800 And, ultimately, it came to either do it or don't.

01:49:40.600 At which time, again, I had gone into Mr. Trump's office.

01:49:43.760 If I could, can I go back to the Access Hollywood tape that was on the Internet?

01:49:48.960 This was a diesel bus.

01:49:51.160 Was it not?

01:49:51.960 It was run on diesel fuel.

01:49:53.540 And when it was fueled up, it would have to go to a diesel pump that's just different from the unleaded pumps.

01:49:59.400 Now there's three varieties, of course, of unleaded.

01:50:01.700 You have the regular.

01:50:02.800 Yes, can I ask the committee member to tell us why that's important at all?

01:50:08.820 Now, if you have a membership card to the gas station, you can give them points.

01:50:12.520 And those points will then refer to lower gas prices in the future.

01:50:15.880 But filling a diesel tank with regular unleaded would be a real problem.

01:50:19.740 Hang on.

01:50:20.360 Here's Mr. Meadows.

01:50:21.520 Here's Mr. Meadows.

01:50:22.980 To actually shed some light, how long have you known Ms. Patton?

01:50:26.440 I'm responsible for Lynn Patton joining the Trump Organization and the job that she currently holds.

01:50:32.120 Well, I'm glad you acknowledged that because you made some very demeaning comments about the president that Ms. Patton doesn't agree with.

01:50:42.840 In fact, it has to do with your claim of racism.

01:50:46.560 She says that as a daughter of a man born in Birmingham, Alabama, that there is no way that she would work for an individual who was racist.

01:50:59.740 How do you reconcile the two of those, Mr. President?

01:51:01.520 As neither should I, as the son of a Holocaust survivor.

01:51:04.580 Mr. Cohen, I guess what I'm saying is I've talked to the president over 300 times.

01:51:13.480 I've not heard one time a racist comment out of his mouth in private.

01:51:19.800 So how do you reconcile it?

01:51:21.140 Do you have proof of those conversations?

01:51:23.320 I would ask you to ask.

01:51:24.300 Do you have tape recordings of those conversations?

01:51:26.600 No, sir.

01:51:27.260 Well, you've taped everybody else.

01:51:28.900 Why wouldn't you have a tape?

01:51:29.500 That's also not true, sir.

01:51:31.240 That's not true.

01:51:32.220 You haven't taped anybody?

01:51:33.120 I have taped individuals.

01:51:34.600 How many times have you taped individuals?

01:51:36.680 Maybe 100 times over 10 years.

01:51:38.660 Is that a low estimate?

01:51:39.640 Because I've heard it's over 200 times.

01:51:41.760 No, I don't think.

01:51:42.480 I think it's approximately about 100, from what I recall.

01:51:45.260 But I would ask you.

01:51:45.940 So why would you ask me a question, sir?

01:51:47.460 Do you have proof?

01:51:48.100 Do you have proof?

01:51:49.720 Yes or no?

01:51:50.400 I do.

01:51:51.140 Oh, where's the proof?

01:51:52.720 Ask Ms. Patton how many people who are black are executives at the Trump Organization.

01:52:00.480 That's not true.

01:52:01.440 Oh, my gosh.

01:52:03.120 As we said, he's not a good lawyer.

01:52:06.420 No one ever accused him of being a good lawyer.

01:52:08.820 Horrible.

01:52:09.400 I mean, he just is embarrassing.

01:52:10.980 All right, let me go a little bit further.

01:52:13.220 Did you collect $1.2 million or so from Novartis?

01:52:17.440 I did.

01:52:18.380 For access to the Trump administration?

01:52:22.980 No, sir.

01:52:24.000 Why did you collect it?

01:52:25.280 Because they came to me based upon my knowledge of the enigma, Donald Trump, what he thinks.

01:52:32.540 Sorry, please let me finish.

01:52:34.560 No.

01:52:34.880 Did they pay you $1.2 million to give them advice?

01:52:38.240 Yes, they did.

01:52:39.180 A multi-billion dollar conglomerate came to me looking for information, not something that's unusual here in D.C., looking for information, and they believed that I had a value.

01:52:51.920 So how many times did you meet with them?

01:52:53.540 And that value was the insight that I was capable of offering them.

01:52:56.640 How many times?

01:52:57.140 And they were willing to pay.

01:52:58.360 How many times did you meet with them?

01:53:01.540 For $1.2 million, how many times did you meet with them?

01:53:04.620 I provided them with both in-person as well as telephone access whenever they needed.

01:53:10.960 How many times?

01:53:11.940 Yes, sir.

01:53:12.220 That's a question, Mr. Cohen.

01:53:13.580 I don't recall, sir.

01:53:14.580 So did you ever talk to them?

01:53:15.940 I spoke to them on several occasions, yes.

01:53:17.620 How many?

01:53:19.220 Six times.

01:53:20.560 Six times.

01:53:22.480 Wow.

01:53:23.580 $200,000 a call.

01:53:25.580 Sir, I also would like to bring to your attention the contract.

01:53:28.500 This is my five minutes, Mr. Cohen, not yours.

01:53:30.560 Did you get money from the Bank of Kazakhstan?

01:53:32.520 It's not a Bank of Kazakhstan.

01:53:35.320 It's called BTA.

01:53:36.960 BTA Bank.

01:53:37.960 Kazakhstan, BTA Bank.

01:53:39.600 Did you get money from them?

01:53:41.060 I did.

01:53:42.020 For what purpose?

01:53:43.480 The purpose was because the former CEO of that bank had absconded with over, it was between

01:53:50.620 $4 to $6 billion, and some of the money was here in the United States, and they sought

01:53:55.220 my assistance in terms of finding, locating that money, and helping them to recollect it.

01:54:00.700 So are you saying that all the reports that you were paid, in some estimates, over $4 million

01:54:06.760 to have access and understanding of the Trump administration, you're saying that all of that

01:54:13.100 was just paid to you just because you're a nice guy?

01:54:16.840 I am a nice guy, but more importantly, each and every contract...

01:54:19.140 I would beg to differ, then the record reflects that you're not a nice guy.

01:54:22.560 Each and every contract contained the clause in my contracts that said, I will not lobby,

01:54:29.160 and I do not do government relations work.

01:54:31.620 In fact, in fact, Novartis sent me their contract, which stated specifically that they wanted me

01:54:39.040 to lobby, that they wanted me to provide access to government, including the president.

01:54:43.860 That information, that paragraph was crossed out by me.

01:54:47.040 We've seen this movie before we know how it works.

01:54:48.820 We live through the Clintons.

01:54:51.560 ...not lobby, or do government relations work?

01:54:54.600 So Novartis representatives say that it was like they were hiring a non-registered lobbyist,

01:55:02.140 so you disagree with that?

01:55:03.940 I don't know what they said, sir, but that the contract speaks for itself.

01:55:06.640 Have you ever contacted anybody in the administration?

01:55:10.620 Yes.

01:55:11.760 ...to advocate on behalf of any aspect of any of your contracts?

01:55:17.720 Well, I ask unanimous consent, Mr. Chairman.

01:55:22.020 I ask unanimous consent.

01:55:24.560 The gentleman's time has expired.

01:55:26.380 You may answer the question.

01:55:29.240 I don't know what you're referring to, sir.

01:55:32.500 Mr. Chairman.

01:55:33.400 Mr. Clay.

01:55:33.980 Mr. Chairman.

01:55:34.600 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

01:55:36.120 Oh, my gosh.

01:55:37.720 You notice every time he runs out of time, he, and you have to answer the question,

01:55:43.340 he's like, I didn't understand.

01:55:45.040 I don't know what, I don't know what he's talking about.

01:55:47.720 ...people are tired of being lied to.

01:55:51.440 They have been lied to by President Trump.

01:55:55.100 They've been lied to by the President's children.

01:55:58.740 They have been lied to by the President's legal representatives.

01:56:02.980 That's you.

01:56:03.380 And it pains me to say that they have been even lied to by his congressional enablers

01:56:11.620 who are still devoted to perpetuating and protecting...

01:56:16.340 I was amazed.

01:56:17.100 We talk about this every day, and there's a lot of people that I've just never even seen

01:56:20.000 before that are in these hearings.

01:56:21.440 Yeah, I know.

01:56:22.120 I've never seen this guy before in my life.

01:56:23.540 No.

01:56:24.100 I don't.

01:56:24.540 Mr. Clay.

01:56:26.220 Any idea where Mr. Clay is from?

01:56:28.200 Missouri, he says.

01:56:29.440 Missouri?

01:56:29.800 Yeah.

01:56:30.120 ...must be reported accurately on his federal financial disclosure, and when he submits them

01:56:37.160 for a bank...

01:56:38.760 So let's just talk about this for a second.

01:56:41.180 If I may, this has done absolutely nothing but divide the nation into camps deeper.

01:56:50.920 If you believe Donald Trump, you're deeper into his corner.

01:56:56.760 Sure.

01:56:56.860 If you don't believe Donald Trump, you're deeper with the Democrats.

01:57:00.960 Mm-hmm.

01:57:01.460 Um, however, if you are neither, if you're just like, I just want the truth, this is

01:57:09.540 a, this is a ridiculous soap opera.

01:57:13.480 Yes.

01:57:13.920 This is a soap opera that no one would believe.

01:57:16.800 If you wrote it, you wouldn't believe it.

01:57:18.500 You'd be like, they're not gonna do that.

01:57:21.120 I'm not gonna ask that question.

01:57:23.820 Are you the type that doesn't want to get to the truth about the web stats of the, of

01:57:29.160 the bus tape with Billy Bush?

01:57:30.280 Imagine that.

01:57:30.500 Imagine that in a soap opera.

01:57:32.300 And I, and I want to bring up the Hollywood, uh, Hollywood, access Hollywood, uh, web stats.

01:57:37.160 Billy Bush's career started in 1991.

01:57:40.960 No one would believe it.

01:57:43.060 No one would believe it.

01:57:44.540 I think the 70% of this nation needs to just grab the 30% of the nation.

01:57:50.120 And by the shoulders and say, stop it.

01:57:53.220 What's wrong with you?

01:57:55.040 All right.

01:57:55.620 Let me tell you about gold line intelligence officials, their annual threat assessment

01:58:00.340 recently issued a warning on increased threats to national security resulting from tighter

01:58:06.440 cooperation between China and Russia.

01:58:08.540 Let me just ask Jason here real quick, Jason, tell me what's going on between India and Pakistan

01:58:14.380 today.

01:58:14.920 This is nuts.

01:58:16.240 Yeah.

01:58:16.380 Crazy.

01:58:16.660 There was a terrorist attack in Indian control Kashmir.

01:58:19.060 And then India, um, responded back with bombing, uh, camps within Pakistan, Pakistan.

01:58:25.440 So now they're at each other's throats.

01:58:26.740 The nuclear council in Pakistan has met.

01:58:28.740 They've downed a few Indian planes.

01:58:30.760 It's escalating.

01:58:32.160 Perfect.

01:58:32.960 Perfect.

01:58:33.600 I don't know about you, but I think the world is, I think it's, I think it's returning to

01:58:38.500 sanity.

01:58:39.140 I don't think it's going more crazy every day.

01:58:41.460 Did you hear about the Hollywood access web stats?

01:58:46.240 I mean, everything makes sense.

01:58:49.880 Uh, gold and silver is specifically owned by people and central banks who are gobbling

01:58:57.460 it up.

01:58:58.360 Uh, it's, it's owned because people know when things go insane, currencies default countries

01:59:06.540 collapse, and you better have something of value learned from Venezuela.

01:59:12.080 What do you have of value?

01:59:14.660 Gold or silver is where the world usually returns.

01:59:17.500 May I suggest strongly suggest that you call gold line.

01:59:23.000 1-866-GOLD-LINE, 1-866-GOLD-LINE, no matter what is happening.

01:59:28.280 Think of this.

01:59:29.700 Think of this circus that is going on right now.

01:59:33.600 When we have the president in Vietnam meeting over nukes with North Korea, when, when the

01:59:42.360 world is completely changing Pakistan and India under fire, what is the nation focused on?

01:59:50.460 What are our, our representatives focused on a circus?

01:59:57.180 Please call gold line.

01:59:58.780 Now 1-866-GOLD-LINE, 1-866-GOLD-LINE or goldline.com.

02:00:05.680 This is the Glenn Beck program.

02:00:20.460 So the, right now they're going after Cohen, uh, the Republicans are, and they're driving

02:00:33.760 towards something and they've brought this up several times.

02:00:36.480 I'm, I'm, I'm assuming that they have something.

02:00:39.600 Um, but Cohen is being asked to deny that anyone is paying for Lanny Davis or his attorney.

02:00:48.220 He said, any, uh, Lenny, uh, Lenny Davis is just doing this for free.

02:00:52.780 I said, that's odd, um, that Tom Steyer did not fund any of this.

02:00:58.780 And then they were asking him a minute ago, uh, did you prepare and coordinate it all with

02:01:04.340 anyone in the democratic party or, you know, on this, uh, on this committee?

02:01:09.060 Um, and, um, he hemmed into hawed and said, he didn't know what you meant, uh, took him

02:01:14.260 three times to ask the question.

02:01:15.560 He finally said, yes, well, I, I did talk to the committee chairperson and a couple of

02:01:19.160 others with the committee, but that was just to coordinate, uh, uh, things, um, well, you

02:01:26.280 mean the, what do you mean?

02:01:27.540 Yeah.

02:01:27.860 What things, right.

02:01:29.160 Um, so let's join this again.

02:01:31.460 Okay.

02:01:32.600 Uh, so did, did you want to testify before Congress or did he urge you to testify here?

02:01:39.520 They're talking about Lanny Davis.

02:01:40.440 I was asked to come here and I am here, sir, voluntarily because it's my decision.

02:01:46.780 You were asked by who?

02:01:47.340 My question, did, did he ask you to come here?

02:01:50.080 No, sir.

02:01:50.620 Okay.

02:01:51.620 Uh, because he, he, he says that he did ask you to come here and that he convinced you

02:01:57.160 and also that he, uh, did the same with, uh, Chairman Cummings as well.

02:02:03.120 So your, your testimony here is that you approached Lanny Davis, uh, to represent you and to come

02:02:10.680 here.

02:02:11.220 He did not persuade you to come here.

02:02:13.540 He did not persuade me.

02:02:14.840 Actually, Chairman Cummings, which is part of the conversations that we engaged in with his

02:02:19.880 people as well as Chairman Schiff and others.

02:02:23.100 Notice that he used, he, he did not persuade.

02:02:26.240 He didn't, he didn't, uh, he is hedging on, he approached me or I approached him.

02:02:34.080 Now this, this, this, this Cohen thing seems appealing to Cohen to do when he can write down

02:02:38.780 his words in 20 pages and outline his case.

02:02:41.180 Yeah.

02:02:41.280 When he's got to be asked all these questions about some things that are even unrelated,

02:02:44.460 it's putting him into uncomfortable positions.

02:02:45.720 He is going to end up going to prison for a lot longer.

02:02:49.440 Because of this, he, I, I bet you that in, in very short period of time, we find out that

02:02:58.160 he has made more statements of perjury, uh, in, in his testimony today.

02:03:04.920 And, uh, he goes to jail for even longer periods of time.

02:03:08.940 He's, I mean, he's not very smart.

02:03:13.940 He's really not very smart.

02:03:15.780 He's not a good attorney.

02:03:17.660 He's not smart.

02:03:18.600 And, you know, he may be in recovery, but he's still a dirt bag.

02:03:25.300 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

02:03:27.700 Helen Beck.

02:03:28.380 Not a good attorney.

02:03:34.480 I'm sorry.

02:03:35.420 I'm sorry.

02:03:36.420 I'll see you next time.

02:03:36.700 We're out.

02:03:37.160 I'm sorry.

02:03:37.860 I'll see you next time.

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