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00:00:00.000 I want to talk to you about Grip6.

00:00:01.940 You work hard for your money.

00:00:03.740 I don't know if you can get this from the other camera, but...

00:00:08.560 There are my Grip6 socks right there.

00:00:10.700 Can you get it from the other camera?

00:00:12.240 That one, Stu's camera?

00:00:14.420 Stu's camera.

00:00:15.100 No, you can't.

00:00:15.880 Wow.

00:00:16.740 Wow.

00:00:17.140 With no warning.

00:00:18.140 There are Grip6.

00:00:20.100 They're my Grip6 socks.

00:00:21.960 They're fantastic.

00:00:23.480 What do you...

00:00:24.440 Can you put your shoes back on, please?

00:00:25.820 This is television.

00:00:26.720 I didn't even...

00:00:26.920 I like your socks.

00:00:27.740 I don't like your feet.

00:00:28.320 This is the name.

00:00:29.100 This is the radio in a minute.

00:00:32.380 This is television.

00:00:33.760 And it's genius the way I'm doing it today.

00:00:36.740 That is...

00:00:37.300 I'm like the average person.

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00:00:41.520 Buy Grip6 socks.

00:00:42.800 And go into your first meeting of the day and put your feet up on the desk and see how that works out for you.

00:00:47.520 I'm just saying.

00:00:48.320 They're great socks.

00:00:49.420 And people will say they're great socks.

00:00:50.480 By the way, you're fired because you just took your shoes off in the middle of an important meeting.

00:00:53.820 I'm just saying.

00:00:55.100 Proof is in the pudding.

00:00:56.160 I wear them.

00:00:56.880 Grip6 socks.

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00:01:03.080 All right.

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00:02:00.520 We have gotten better and better on dreaming as time has gone on.

00:02:05.760 But we have lost the ability to see those dreams come true by individuals.

00:02:13.100 So I want to talk to you about the power of the individual.

00:02:16.420 And we begin in 60 seconds.

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00:03:18.220 I was thinking this weekend about the power of the individual.

00:03:23.980 And how we have been trained to forget this.

00:03:29.360 And we've been trained by very powerful people and organizations.

00:03:34.400 It used to be that we could be trained by corporations.

00:03:37.580 But now it's corporations alongside the government.

00:03:42.840 And so we feel even more small.

00:03:44.720 But don't.

00:03:45.820 Because I want to tell you.

00:03:48.260 I want to take you through a story here that takes you from the early 20th century with a guy out in a field all the way to where we are today.

00:03:57.000 Back in the early 20th century, one American found himself alone on a battlefield.

00:04:08.920 Not one of bullets and bombs, but a battle of wits and innovation and stamina.

00:04:15.180 The battle that would determine the fate of an industry and all of our lives individually.

00:04:24.640 Our protagonist, born to humble beginnings in a log cabin of all places.

00:04:32.340 But he was ingenious.

00:04:35.880 As a teenager, he had a really uncanny ability to envision the future beyond the limits of his time.

00:04:42.800 His favorite was science and mathematics.

00:04:47.600 And he would dream with his science teacher all the time.

00:04:53.940 Who first thought he was a little nuts and then realized, no, he's genius.

00:05:01.200 And he faced all kinds of obstacles that would have broken the will of many.

00:05:06.020 But he was driven by an unshakable belief that tomorrow can be better than today.

00:05:14.020 And it would be the individual that would do that.

00:05:19.320 The giants of industry, the titans of commerce, the lords of finance.

00:05:24.500 When he started to get going, everyone stood against him.

00:05:28.560 He had one opponent.

00:05:33.580 One that tried hard to discredit his ideas.

00:05:37.640 He sabotaged his work.

00:05:39.820 He sent spies into this little guy's workshop.

00:05:43.620 But no matter how much this guy spent, no matter how much power this man had, no matter how much he would expend in resources,

00:05:54.620 our little hero just kept working at night.

00:06:00.920 One day he was plowing a field on his family's farm.

00:06:03.840 And he turned his plow and looked as he was starting a new row.

00:06:12.260 And he saw all of the rows.

00:06:15.300 And it gave him an idea.

00:06:17.920 It gave him an idea of a series of dots.

00:06:23.520 That moment changed the entire world.

00:06:27.220 When he brought it up, ridicule, skepticism, betrayal from those he trusted,

00:06:35.720 he put a little lab in San Francisco and he couldn't get anybody to invest.

00:06:42.400 He was making the equipment so it kept failing because he didn't know how to make it.

00:06:49.460 And they were making it for the first time.

00:06:51.540 So he started making his own little components and improvised solutions.

00:06:57.220 He had an unwavering faith in his vision and America.

00:07:08.900 1927, September 7th, 1927.

00:07:14.500 He transmitted the very first electronic television image, a straight line.

00:07:21.440 He used a single beam of electrons.

00:07:24.240 This led him to a fully functional, all-electronic television system.

00:07:31.660 And as the years passed, the fruits of his labor began to take shape.

00:07:35.960 And one day, to the astonishment of the world, he unveiled his creation,

00:07:40.460 a groundbreaking innovation that would change the way we work, the way we live, the way we communicate.

00:07:46.340 The invention of marvel of modern engineering and design captivated the public,

00:07:55.300 sent shockwaves through the industries that once sought to destroy him.

00:08:00.060 The giants that scoffed at him now found themselves scrambling to catch up as their empires began to crumble.

00:08:08.560 Through a series of lengthy battles with these giants in court, he defended his patents.

00:08:19.840 He secured his place in history.

00:08:22.000 That little man who faced the insurmountable odds and emerged victorious was none other than Philo Farnsworth.

00:08:32.380 He was the inventor of the fully functional, all-electronic television system.

00:08:38.060 The device that brought families together around the glow of its scream that shaped the culture,

00:08:46.080 connected us to the world, to space, we saw a man walk on the moon,

00:08:50.280 was the brainchild of a man who fought a lonely battle against the giants of his time.

00:08:55.700 And it's all but forgotten.

00:08:57.300 But it all started with a guy who was working out in a field.

00:09:03.660 And when he turned his plow and saw those lines, he thought,

00:09:09.420 if I put dots of color into lines, several lines,

00:09:16.240 I'll be able to transmit a picture.

00:09:22.020 Those dots we now know as pixels.

00:09:27.300 And it is the building block of every image that we see today.

00:09:35.800 So here was step one.

00:09:40.000 But in our story, it takes a long time for things to change.

00:09:46.560 For instance, Marconi, he comes up with the idea that you can have sound over sound waves.

00:09:54.900 That's around the turn of the century.

00:09:57.300 It was 1933 that FM radio was first discovered by a guy named Edwin Armstrong.

00:10:07.820 And Edwin Armstrong invents it.

00:10:12.380 But he works for the same guy that was suing Philo Farnsworth.

00:10:18.680 And this time he wins.

00:10:21.860 He says this was developed solely for RCA.

00:10:25.020 And he put it in a safe.

00:10:26.360 Invented in 1933, but the greed of a capitalist named Sarnoff let that thing sit in a vault until they had sold all the AM radios they could possibly do.

00:10:40.180 And then the invention of television came and made radio less and less important.

00:10:47.960 And he had to finally, in the 1960s, pull it out of the vault.

00:10:52.300 And it wasn't until the 1970s that FM radio came.

00:10:57.080 And then that was abolished.

00:10:59.200 Why?

00:11:03.820 Because really, the cell phone.

00:11:07.080 The internet.

00:11:08.120 One of the key visionaries was Martin Cooper.

00:11:14.180 He's the father of the cell phone.

00:11:16.060 He knew that not only could we use a phone like we used to use an AT&T phone, but it would also allow us to access all kinds of media at the time when he thought of television.

00:11:31.640 We could have television on our phones.

00:11:35.000 Lots of things had to happen in between.

00:11:41.560 3G and 4G networks that we know today.

00:11:45.420 That's really what's made this possible.

00:11:49.600 And then Apple in 2007 with a smartphone.

00:11:54.140 Large touchscreen displays, powerful processing units.

00:11:58.540 All of that had to happen.

00:12:00.320 And it took down yet another industry.

00:12:08.860 And we used it to take down cable television.

00:12:14.280 When they said, go ahead, say whatever you want, but not on this platform.

00:12:21.540 Go make your own.

00:12:23.420 We did.

00:12:24.340 And in 2011, we launched something called Blaze TV.

00:12:34.040 At the time, traditional cable networks were still the dominant force in news and entertainment.

00:12:39.660 And I remember sitting in my office looking at my news team and Stu, my executive producer, and I said, this is all going to come collapsing down around them.

00:12:49.940 And we embraced the power of the internet.

00:12:56.100 And we embraced the power of an audience.

00:12:58.800 And we passed, bypassed, the gatekeepers of television.

00:13:06.900 And we made the Blaze an independent place for the voice to be heard.

00:13:12.160 And you liked it.

00:13:14.340 And you subscribed.

00:13:16.420 It was a place to connect and hear the truth.

00:13:19.660 Engage in thoughtful discussions about the issues that matter most.

00:13:23.740 And because of our success, others followed in our footsteps.

00:13:28.180 And a new wave of independent media organizations emerged and leveraged the power of the internet to create alternative sources for information and entertainment.

00:13:38.960 And we all strive, and we all have thrived, on the principles of honesty and integrity and intellectual curiosity.

00:13:48.520 Something that is all but dead in the mainstream media.

00:13:58.160 All of this stuff always comes crashing down.

00:14:01.560 And it always seems tragic to those who are trying to hang on to the past.

00:14:07.100 But don't hang on to the past.

00:14:09.440 Hang on to the principles of the past.

00:14:12.420 Because, eventually, AM radio goes away.

00:14:19.240 FM radio is the king.

00:14:23.020 And local television stations are the king.

00:14:26.780 And then cable becomes the king.

00:14:31.320 And while those things still remain, they become less important.

00:14:36.280 And today, news, all of the so-called truth-tellers, have exposed themselves in their desperation.

00:14:49.480 In their desperation just to survive.

00:14:52.600 Not to be relevant, but just to survive.

00:14:56.280 They are willing to call a woman a man, and a man a woman. 0.90

00:15:02.420 When really, the way to survive is to just remain loyal only to the truth.

00:15:15.060 We're not battling people.

00:15:17.720 We're battling desperation.

00:15:20.440 We're battling evil.

00:15:23.640 A relentless barrage of falsehoods and manipulations.

00:15:27.700 But the truth will always weather the storm.

00:15:33.300 Most people don't know.

00:15:34.480 I named the blaze after two things.

00:15:37.740 And one of them was the burning bush of Moses.

00:15:41.200 It was a fire of truth that burned but never consumed.

00:15:47.240 As long as it is truthful, that fire will burn and never consume.

00:15:57.700 I just want to remind you that things always change.

00:16:04.560 That individuals make all of the difference.

00:16:08.840 Our country is a testament to the power of innovation and resilience

00:16:20.260 and the unwavering belief of the individual,

00:16:25.100 the importance of free speech and open discourse and a rule of law.

00:16:33.080 Let that be your beacon of hope this week.

00:16:37.460 That no matter what is collapsing around us,

00:16:42.320 there's somebody, somebody, thinking of something much better.

00:16:48.440 And it's growing.

00:16:50.300 And right now as we see the collapse of truth,

00:16:53.740 just know you have helped build that something that will replace those lies.

00:16:59.460 A positive change is possible if we believe in the truth and ourselves.

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00:18:18.520 Well, hello to Stu Brig here.

00:18:23.020 Hello, Glenn.

00:18:23.740 How are you?

00:18:24.460 Very well.

00:18:25.220 How are you?

00:18:25.680 Good.

00:18:25.880 How was your weekend?

00:18:26.680 It was good.

00:18:27.220 Good.

00:18:27.600 Good.

00:18:27.820 Good.

00:18:28.320 1900 Little League games and my kids are in that age

00:18:32.420 that that is the entire weekend.

00:18:33.920 I had a birthday party for one of my kids.

00:18:36.760 Yeah?

00:18:38.860 We went to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in a movie theater.

00:18:42.580 Really?

00:18:43.760 I haven't done that since I was probably about six.

00:18:46.800 Yeah.

00:18:47.320 Okay?

00:18:48.360 You have to see it in a movie theater.

00:18:50.660 It is a totally different experience.

00:18:53.020 You're talking, please tell me you're talking about the original.

00:18:55.080 Oh, Gene Wilder.

00:18:55.740 Okay, thank you.

00:18:56.440 Of course.

00:18:56.660 The other one's an abomination.

00:18:57.820 Okay.

00:18:58.280 We don't even mention that one.

00:18:59.620 Okay.

00:19:01.040 No, it is a totally different experience.

00:19:04.300 How?

00:19:04.720 It is hysterical with a crowd.

00:19:08.440 Really?

00:19:08.820 With a crowd.

00:19:10.200 You know, when you snicker or you're like, you know, and he's like, oh, no, please stop.

00:19:16.000 When he does things like that, you kind of just laugh in your head if you're watching it, you know, with just your family.

00:19:21.240 The audience laughs hard and you recognize it is so much more a comedy than really anything else.

00:19:31.940 It does not take itself seriously.

00:19:34.520 It's really a different experience.

00:19:37.880 That's great.

00:19:38.500 Yeah.

00:19:38.780 It's so good.

00:19:40.480 It's still an all-time classic, that movie.

00:19:43.100 Gene Wilder, he was the best.

00:19:44.860 So good.

00:19:46.180 So good.

00:19:46.640 In that role.

00:19:47.360 Well, and so he changed it, too, I mean, on his own, kind of went in there and just did it kind of a different way than they were expecting, and that changed the history of it.

00:19:56.320 Yeah.

00:19:56.560 My daughter, she was working at a grocery store when she was younger, and working at a grocery store, and she said this old man kind of came up to her, and he's like, I'm sorry, I don't have my glasses.

00:20:10.600 Can you just tell me if this is, and she's like, she's turning around, she's like, that sounds like Willy Wonka.

00:20:18.560 And it was, it was Gene Wilder.

00:20:20.480 And she was like, um, yes, sir, that's what I said.

00:20:24.960 She said, because I know you, Dad.

00:20:27.180 I know what people, you know, that people, you just leave me, just let me shop.

00:20:31.800 You know what I mean?

00:20:32.260 And so she didn't say anything, and I'm like, it's Willy Wonka.

00:20:36.420 You gotta say something to him.

00:20:39.000 That's incredible.

00:20:40.500 Yeah.

00:20:40.900 Did he, like, have a cane and sort of start to fall over and then do a somersault?

00:20:44.420 You know, that is the reason why he accepted.

00:20:47.360 That was his condition.

00:20:49.320 The producers came to him, he said, I'll play it, but on one condition, I get to introduce the character as I want to introduce the character.

00:20:58.680 And they said, well, what does that mean?

00:21:00.040 He said, not in a creepy Johnny Depp sort of way.

00:21:03.820 He said, I want to come out with a cane, and I want to limp, and then I want the cane to stick, and I'm going to do a somersault and stand up.

00:21:10.860 That's how I wanted it.

00:21:11.600 And they were like, that's your condition?

00:21:15.700 Okay.

00:21:18.620 So anyway, there was a podcast this weekend that we released on Friday of a couple of friends of mine.

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00:21:58.540 And it's something that nobody ever talks about, although it's a lot more talked about than when I was 15 years old and my mother committed suicide.

00:22:10.760 We didn't talk about it until I was 30.

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00:24:13.620 Hey, I don't know if you saw what happened in Chicago.

00:24:16.800 Can we roll the tape on Chicago?

00:24:19.040 Nothing.

00:24:20.420 Nothing really bad happening in Chicago this weekend.

00:24:23.360 Okay, so there were some teenagers that got a little out of control, maybe a little bit, smashing windows and destroying public and private property and shootings and things like that, and everything was on fire.

00:24:39.960 But that's no big deal.

00:24:41.920 What is the problem?

00:24:43.660 Can't blame them.

00:24:44.520 Look, this has happened multiple times now, and the incredible leadership of the city of

00:24:52.740 Chicago has been there to try to correct it, and this is the result of it, and they took

00:24:57.900 out Lori Lightfoot to put in someone who might actually be worse.

00:25:01.020 It's hard to do.

00:25:02.180 Yeah, which is really hard to do.

00:25:03.560 It's hard to do.

00:25:03.700 It's hard to do, but they've done it, and this will continue now.

00:25:07.080 So I'd just like to ask, escape from New York, I think it's probably going to be escape from Chicago before New York, you know, but escape from New York, it will be a prison because you take those 10 bridges out and nobody's getting off that island.

00:25:23.380 So, but you're going to have to have somebody come in and rescue people in Chicago.

00:25:29.400 It's going to get bad.

00:25:30.840 Imagine if society would break down.

00:25:32.700 They're doing this already, and society hasn't broken down.

00:25:37.160 Oh, that's going to be good.

00:25:38.280 It's going to be good.

00:25:39.040 No, seriously, it's going to be good.

00:25:40.220 We should talk about things, you know, but we don't generally do that, but I think we should start.

00:25:48.160 What is happening to us?

00:25:50.780 Because we're about to enter a whole new world.

00:25:56.560 We're about to give birth to something.

00:25:59.400 Our due date is coming.

00:26:01.640 You know, I was reading the Bible this weekend, and I saw the words ripened fruit, and I thought, oh, wow, that's what we are.

00:26:14.700 We are in our decay.

00:26:16.980 We are ripened fruit, ready either for the picking or just to fall and rot on the ground.

00:26:24.580 We got to change things.

00:26:26.220 We have to start turning things around.

00:26:27.800 And unfortunately, we have some huge issues that we're not paying attention to, and we're not making progress.

00:26:36.940 We just keep arguing left versus right.

00:26:39.840 We keep arguing Democrat or Republican.

00:26:42.220 That's a really pretty useless argument at this point.

00:26:46.360 Why don't we start arguing principles?

00:26:48.580 Because if we don't return to those principles, we're in trouble.

00:26:52.060 Here's the latest news on AI.

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00:27:03.620 It is doubling its power, its intellect, its toolbox, if you will, every 48 hours.

00:27:13.240 Every 48 hours.

00:27:17.040 It's doubling.

00:27:18.320 They've never seen anything like this.

00:27:22.100 They're surprised.

00:27:23.260 Whoa, we're surprised.

00:27:24.320 Really?

00:27:24.760 You were surprised?

00:27:25.860 Huh.

00:27:26.580 Because, you know, again, a guy who doesn't have all of your education.

00:27:30.680 I swear to you, I should just be in some of these labs.

00:27:33.000 I should go over to Wuhan.

00:27:34.200 I should just be there like, you know what?

00:27:36.400 This is going to escape.

00:27:37.960 Here's how it's going to escape.

00:27:39.560 And then you're forced to listen to me, I think.

00:27:42.800 I think.

00:27:43.220 If we're going to have a world, we should just make the bankers listen to me and go, you know, that system there.

00:27:51.720 I think you're relying too much on that.

00:27:53.860 And you're doing all this bad stuff that weakens that.

00:27:58.040 So you should stop doing that.

00:28:00.580 Just all we need are just a bunch of farmers, really.

00:28:03.560 Anybody, anybody who's just a regular schmo, who's paying attention, you know all this. 0.72

00:28:09.560 You know all these things are coming.

00:28:11.260 AI doubling every 48 hours.

00:28:16.180 That will mean for the average, let's say a cell phone, it will make the progress that a smartphone made from 2007, when it was first introduced, to 2018 in the next six months.

00:28:40.380 I don't know.

00:28:42.540 I don't know.

00:28:43.380 That seems pretty fast.

00:28:46.620 You are now entering a time where they're talking about, we should shut this down.

00:28:51.980 We should at least pause for a while.

00:28:54.940 Well, you can't now, because China is already there. 0.97

00:28:59.060 And China is not going to shut it down.

00:29:00.680 So do you want China to surpass the United States?

00:29:04.280 How about this?

00:29:05.280 We just shut down the American innovation that's public.

00:29:11.780 And we have everybody just work for the government like a Manhattan project.

00:29:16.760 So then the government is the only one with AI.

00:29:19.840 Oh, that sounds good, too.

00:29:21.680 Doesn't it?

00:29:24.040 There are no good options.

00:29:25.640 And too many nefarious people.

00:29:28.040 When I saw the teenagers, I thought, oh, yeah, no, no, there's there's not people that just want to see the world burn.

00:29:35.460 Because chat GPT, as it stands now, you can.

00:29:39.420 You can make a weapon of mass destruction with chat GPT.

00:29:47.780 You could right now, if you're really nefarious, say, find the most important people in institutions.

00:29:56.780 And search them out.

00:30:01.260 Develop fake, you know, web portals for all of these banks.

00:30:08.100 And send emails out and say, you've got to change, go through this web portal.

00:30:15.180 And it looks just like Bank of America.

00:30:18.660 And as it's rejected or accepted, it learns how to write that letter to get you to go through that portal.

00:30:27.260 And then once it has all of your information, it just clears your bank accounts.

00:30:30.880 And it does it with everybody who is very, very, very wealthy.

00:30:34.440 Does it to the corporations?

00:30:36.540 Does it to anybody that will log online?

00:30:38.720 Not the little people.

00:30:39.740 It's a weapon of mass destruction.

00:30:42.340 That could happen today with chat GPT.

00:30:47.200 And it will learn.

00:30:48.760 You could do that today.

00:30:50.900 I was listening to David Sachs on All In, his podcast, and they were talking about scenarios like that.

00:30:59.640 They're like, done.

00:31:01.000 What do you think?

00:31:01.600 And David was like, well, we should just wait for regulation.

00:31:05.400 We don't know what we're dealing with yet.

00:31:07.280 And I'm like, what do we, what do you mean wait?

00:31:10.560 It's doubling every, every two days.

00:31:12.920 How long do we wait, 30 days, five weeks?

00:31:19.500 How long do we wait?

00:31:21.400 Because the world is going to change at an exponential pace.

00:31:25.140 And I don't have a solution.

00:31:27.540 I don't think there is a solution except for all of us coming back to true principles and understanding self-regulation.

00:31:37.840 Just because you can do something, Wuhan Labs, you don't do it.

00:31:44.640 Just because you can, you don't.

00:31:48.840 I mean, I appreciate your, this as an important principle for humanity generally.

00:31:57.840 Yes.

00:31:58.180 But I don't even know how that solves this problem.

00:32:00.860 I mean, what does self-regulation do to the, and as you point out, all of us using the, you know,

00:32:06.860 very easy to achieve standard of full compliance.

00:32:10.600 I mean, I really, well, the, the idea is either we self-regulate, which won't happen.

00:32:16.960 There's always, I mean, in billions of people, there's somebody who's like, I'm just gonna,

00:32:22.060 I'm just gonna set the whole world on fire.

00:32:24.140 It's always somebody.

00:32:24.960 It's always somebody.

00:32:26.400 And if we don't have it, if the average person doesn't have it, because, well, we're gonna protect,

00:32:32.000 we're gonna protect everybody, then you have governments in charge of it.

00:32:37.180 Like, they're not going to enslave the world.

00:32:39.980 All right.

00:32:40.260 That's gonna be terrible, too.

00:32:41.320 Yeah.

00:32:41.480 Horrible.

00:32:42.000 Horrible.

00:32:42.340 This is bordering, I will be honest, on one of those problems.

00:32:45.840 And there's a few of them out there.

00:32:47.480 That just feels so big that I just kind of throw my hands up and don't care about it anymore.

00:32:54.300 That's like where I'm starting to get with AI.

00:32:56.580 Well, because it's either, it's, something's gonna happen with it, and I know I can't control

00:33:01.080 it, and I don't know, I honestly don't know what the answer is.

00:33:03.880 It's coming way too fast.

00:33:04.940 The answer is, the answer I gave in 2007 or 8, unplug from the system.

00:33:12.560 Make sure that you're not reliant on giant systems.

00:33:16.440 I read an interesting manifesto by a guy who lived in a shack who recommended the same thing.

00:33:20.920 Right?

00:33:20.960 I'm starting to wonder, between him and the villain in A View to a Kill, I mean, did they

00:33:26.560 have some of this down?

00:33:27.740 Do you remember the guy we interviewed, what was his name, from Yale University, mathematician?

00:33:34.340 Oh, yeah.

00:33:35.040 Incredible guy.

00:33:35.420 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:35.860 I do remember.

00:33:36.160 He has a black glove on his hand, like Darth Vader, because he was the first target of the

00:33:42.240 Unabomber.

00:33:42.600 Hold on, let me ask AI what his name is.

00:33:44.000 Yeah, okay.

00:33:44.820 And he opened up his mailbox, and a bomb of nails went off.

00:33:49.440 He is in tremendous pain to this day.

00:33:53.100 I'm trying to remember his name.

00:33:55.360 And he wrote a book about this time.

00:34:01.100 And the Unabomber missed his point.

00:34:03.940 He was like, guys, we shouldn't go here.

00:34:07.740 This is what the world looks like.

00:34:10.100 And he said, I think Ted Kaczynski just read the first half of the book where I was explaining

00:34:16.460 what can be done, because in the second half of the book, I'm like, we shouldn't do it.

00:34:22.820 But so Ted Kaczynski didn't get it from him.

00:34:27.260 He got this technology from a guy who, you know, has worked for Apple.

00:34:33.380 He's won the biggest case.

00:34:35.820 I think he won a billion-dollar case against Apple for stealing some software.

00:34:42.960 I mean, he's a genius, and he's been warning about it for a long time.

00:34:46.880 And what he says is the same thing that it's going to, guys, this is going, you're going to see all of these lines come together.

00:34:56.400 All of these things that are problems, they're all going to come down to one solution.

00:35:01.240 And that solution is you strengthening your core with God.

00:35:07.920 That's it.

00:35:08.920 It's the only thing that, remember when I said to you, there's going to come a time when you're going to be walking down the street,

00:35:14.480 and you're going to hear, don't go there, turn around.

00:35:17.160 And you've got to stop and turn around and not question that voice.

00:35:20.760 That time is right around the corner.

00:35:24.680 Right around the corner.

00:35:27.600 Profound change is coming.

00:35:30.540 And it doesn't mean that that's bad.

00:35:32.980 It just means that you have to be prepared.

00:35:37.060 Somebody asked me, well, let me take a quick break, and I'll come back and finish this thought.

00:35:41.220 Dr. David Glertner, by the way.

00:35:42.620 Glertner, that's what it is.

00:35:44.480 All right.

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00:36:03.980 Do the next right thing, and then let it go.

00:36:09.080 I mean, this is where, this is the only thing that's saving my sanity with my kids.

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00:37:12.580 So, I was just asking, ChatGPT, what can I do to raise my credit score?

00:37:28.940 You've got, number one, pay your bills on time.

00:37:31.580 Number two, reduce your credit utilization.

00:37:34.080 Number three, check your credit report for errors.

00:37:36.420 Number four, keep old credit accounts open.

00:37:38.760 And number five, limit new credit applications.

00:37:41.020 And then it says, shut up, you sound like my father.

00:37:45.320 It says, remember, improving your credit score takes time and effort.

00:37:48.040 By consistently following good credit habits,

00:37:50.560 and following good credit habits and monitoring your credit report,

00:37:53.960 you can gradually improve your score over time.

00:37:56.180 I mean, sure, that's true.

00:37:57.880 But, like, why would you do that when, I mean, you should do those things, of course.

00:38:00.640 But why not do ScoreMaster as well?

00:38:02.300 Because you don't have to wait all this time, stupid chat GPT.

00:38:04.960 You don't have to do all those things forever to get a slight improvement in your credit score.

00:38:08.120 That's the old way of doing this.

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00:38:48.100 So I want to show you how insignificant things become massive things in our head.

00:39:00.600 Right now, you would say, I'm not going to New York City.

00:39:04.180 I mean, crime is crazy there, and it is.

00:39:06.940 6,000 arrests, 6,000 arrests just for shoplifting.

00:39:13.200 How many people does that involve?

00:39:18.220 How many people are doing the bulk of all of the shoplifting?

00:39:26.820 347.

00:39:30.340 347 people in Manhattan have turned that almost into a prison situation

00:39:37.380 when you go into a drugstore or a shopping center.

00:39:40.320 We still surround the bad guys.

00:39:45.320 There are more of us, and I mean Democrats, Republicans, Independents.

00:39:48.740 There are more people that believe in God, just haven't said anything.

00:39:53.100 I don't know why.

00:39:54.040 Maybe because we've never, ever had to fight for it.

00:39:58.420 We've never had to fight for what we believe.

00:40:01.740 We've always been a country that believes in tolerance.

00:40:05.980 I still believe in tolerance, but not of lies.

00:40:10.740 Not of lies.

00:40:13.640 Sorry.

00:40:14.540 You know, you can believe you are a man and you can have a baby,

00:40:18.800 but don't teach that to my kids.

00:40:20.700 Don't teach that to my kids.

00:40:23.200 You can think you want to have sex and sex is normal with a six-year-old,

00:40:29.180 but society doesn't, and I'm not tolerant on that one.

00:40:33.200 Yeah.

00:40:33.320 No, you can't really.

00:40:34.460 Yeah.

00:40:34.760 You can't think that.

00:40:35.640 Correct.

00:40:36.100 Sorry.

00:40:36.420 You can, but you belong in jail.

00:40:38.560 I guess thought crimes are not possible.

00:40:40.600 Right.

00:40:41.240 But if we come up with a way to make them possible, if we get the people,

00:40:44.840 what are the three things, the three dudes or ladies in the milk in, 1.00

00:40:48.340 in what movie is that?

00:40:50.120 The Tom Cruise movie?

00:40:52.040 I don't know.

00:40:52.380 Like bathing in milk.

00:40:53.300 Yes, you do.

00:40:53.780 You've referenced it a thousand times on this show.

00:40:55.660 I don't know it.

00:40:56.140 I don't watch people bathe in milk movies.

00:40:57.900 What's the name of the stupid movie?

00:40:59.100 I don't.

00:40:59.220 Yeah.

00:40:59.400 So Sarah doesn't even know.

00:41:00.940 You all know it.

00:41:01.540 You're a freak.

00:41:02.200 You are a weird.

00:41:03.880 You're freezing me out.

00:41:04.800 You're a real freak.

00:41:06.180 Anyway.

00:41:06.740 What is the name of it?

00:41:07.360 So where do you get your hope from?

00:41:09.180 Where do you get your hope from?

00:41:10.260 Yes, chat GPT.

00:41:11.280 Shut up. 0.95

00:41:11.940 People have asked me just this weekend.

00:41:15.160 Somebody said to me, I listen to you every day.

00:41:17.980 How do you do it every day?

00:41:20.500 Yeah.

00:41:20.740 I would be hopeless.

00:41:21.860 And I'm like, well, it's my job to do it.

00:41:26.020 So I do it every day because I believe in something.

00:41:29.740 And I believe my job is to warn people.

00:41:32.380 But you're right.

00:41:33.320 It is very tiring.

00:41:34.360 But I'm not hopeless because I know God and I have seen him in my own life.

00:41:40.660 He has taken me a worthless, hopeless alcoholic who screwed up everything in his life.

00:41:48.200 And he's put me in a position where by my actions, I can either cause trust or distrust.

00:42:00.280 That's an amazing thing because I didn't get me here.

00:42:03.960 My talent?

00:42:05.560 Nope.

00:42:06.960 I mean, Radio Hall of Fame.

00:42:08.760 They are morons.

00:42:11.160 When it comes to talent?

00:42:12.560 Nope.

00:42:13.040 Not me.

00:42:14.020 By the way, thankfully, we put this hour on YouTube and all of our commenters are correctly

00:42:17.960 identifying Minority Report as the movie I was talking about.

00:42:21.100 Thank you.

00:42:21.500 Oh, the milk bath.

00:42:22.440 That's not they're taking a milk bath.

00:42:24.460 Yes, they're in the milk.

00:42:25.440 They're pre-crime.

00:42:26.660 They're not girls.

00:42:27.920 There are three girls taking milk baths with Tom Cruise.

00:42:31.520 That's a totally different image than the pre-cogs.

00:42:36.000 There are three girls in the milk telling you about pre-crime. 0.97

00:42:39.840 That's exactly.

00:42:40.440 I nailed it.

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00:42:54.920 That's not true at all.

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00:44:01.260 The show continues in a minute.

00:44:21.840 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:44:51.840 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:44:58.020 You know how you're on the winning side?

00:45:00.680 You're on the winning side when you don't take things out of context and then just shout

00:45:05.900 down anybody who can answer it.

00:45:10.340 Disinformation is incredibly dangerous, as you know.

00:45:15.800 But it's only dangerous to those who refuse to ask questions.

00:45:20.400 Who might know something and then hear something that's way out of character and go,

00:45:26.460 Well, wow, I didn't know that.

00:45:30.040 Maybe you should check on that.

00:45:32.740 Disinformation.

00:45:33.460 Why was the New York Times leading the charge to arrest this kid for, you know, violating all kinds of secrecy laws?

00:45:46.280 Why is this kid, when Vindman did the same thing, he was protected as a whistleblower?

00:45:52.100 This kid, not.

00:45:54.120 In fact, the New York Times led the search for him.

00:45:57.680 Why is it disinformation?

00:46:02.140 I'm going to give you a story on disinformation in 60 seconds.

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00:46:56.920 All right, so I guess I was trending.

00:46:59.520 I don't pay attention to this stuff.

00:47:01.340 I guess I was trending over the weekend, and all for the wrong reasons.

00:47:04.420 Because the George Soros money that is, you know, so proudly on display at Media Matters,

00:47:11.900 a group that Hillary Clinton, you know, she doesn't like misinformation, Hillary Clinton, Podesta, and George Soros started.

00:47:21.740 I think it was Podesta, wasn't it?

00:47:23.200 There's three of them.

00:47:24.220 They started Media Matters.

00:47:25.560 And they have spent money to cloud issues because they know Americans really just hear things and move on.

00:47:34.820 I was trending this weekend because apparently I'm an anti-Semite again.

00:47:38.980 And I'm not saying any of this to defend myself.

00:47:42.580 I need you to hear the point.

00:47:44.960 Need you to hear the point.

00:47:46.720 I was talking last week about doctors and how concerned I am about our medical profession.

00:47:55.840 It's happening all over the world.

00:47:58.200 Norway just cleared the path so you can kill children if they're terminally ill.

00:48:02.160 Well, this is not a good thing.

00:48:06.160 It's not a good thing.

00:48:08.580 Every time this happens, it starts with compassion and it ends in mass slaughter.

00:48:15.280 And it is not, usually the ones who lead it are not the Nazis.

00:48:21.900 Okay?

00:48:22.500 They're not.

00:48:23.720 They're the doctors and nurses.

00:48:26.240 They're the scientists.

00:48:27.360 When people say follow the science, that's what it leads to.

00:48:32.160 Okay?

00:48:33.100 And I'm going to teach you some things that maybe you didn't know.

00:48:38.000 You never even heard before.

00:48:41.320 When we got rid of slavery in the United States and the world for the first time started to really turn universally in the Western countries against slavery.

00:48:55.040 When that happened, something else happened right around the same time.

00:49:00.220 And it was the publishing of this book.

00:49:04.800 I tried to get a first edition copy of this the other day.

00:49:08.060 150,000.

00:49:09.700 So I'm going to stick with our eighth edition copy.

00:49:12.720 A very important book.

00:49:14.860 Origin of the Species.

00:49:17.120 This is Darwin.

00:49:18.340 And most people don't know that Darwin, the name of origin of the species, it's not, that's not the full name by means of natural selection.

00:49:30.560 Okay?

00:49:30.860 Origin of the Species by means of natural selection.

00:49:34.000 Maybe people will know that.

00:49:35.720 They don't know or the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life.

00:49:45.500 Of favored races.

00:49:48.500 Which means there are favored races and there are inferior races.

00:49:56.640 This was the first time science, if you follow the science, it codified it.

00:50:02.260 Then he wrote descent of man.

00:50:04.500 And in that, he makes it even more clear that there are inferior races.

00:50:10.440 So if you want to look for the codification, the justification of racism in America and the world, I would say a lot of it is not from, but codified, institutionalized, made okay through Darwin.

00:50:34.340 Because he teaches us favored races.

00:50:40.320 Okay.

00:50:41.700 So what happened from there?

00:50:43.580 Well, the American institutions and the German institutions of higher learning, again, the scientists, the doctors, the anthropologists, the psychiatrists, they all embrace this.

00:50:57.460 And they're like, well, if there's favored races, we've got to get rid of the undesirable races. 1.00

00:51:06.000 Okay?

00:51:06.960 The other was, maybe we can speed up the transition and make everybody part of that favored race.

00:51:15.040 Because, you know, science stuff.

00:51:18.440 So I said last week that it wasn't the Nazis that were killing the people in the Holocaust.

00:51:30.200 It was the Nazi doctors that were doing it. 0.87

00:51:34.200 And I saw a post somebody sent to me and said, Glenn, you should see where were their uniforms.

00:51:41.980 If they were not just doctors, they would have had uniforms.

00:51:50.000 And I'm like, have you ever looked up Joseph Mengele?

00:51:53.240 He was a famous doctor.

00:51:54.280 He's wearing a uniform.

00:51:55.780 I mean, they were high up in the SS.

00:51:57.740 But also, too, my understanding, at least of your, certainly in the context, it seemed that you were indicating at the beginning, right?

00:52:05.200 Like, you know, after a while, they expanded these practices.

00:52:10.340 The ones who brought this.

00:52:12.020 Let me just explain.

00:52:13.040 Now, I'm going to use, and I'll tell you what I'm using later, but just for this demonstration, I'm using what some people might think is a sketchy source.

00:52:23.100 Okay?

00:52:23.320 Oh, great.

00:52:23.920 But hear me out.

00:52:26.000 Right.

00:52:26.480 I guarantee somebody is going to complain.

00:52:29.020 They go, that source, that's not.

00:52:30.620 But I'll tell you about that later.

00:52:32.300 Joseph Mengele, one of the most, I'm reading from this website, Joseph Mengele is one of the most famous figures in the Holocaust.

00:52:41.940 His service at Auschwitz and the medical experiments he conducted have made him the most widely recognized perpetrator of the crimes committed in that camp.

00:52:52.420 Because of his infamy, Mengele has been the subject of numerous popular books, films, and television shows.

00:52:58.400 Many of these portrayals distort the real facts of Mengele's crimes and take him out of his historic context.

00:53:07.680 And they portray him as a mad scientist who conducted statistic experiments with no scientific bases.

00:53:17.920 Now, that's an important phrase, isn't it?

00:53:20.540 People remember him as a crazy.

00:53:24.880 He wasn't.

00:53:26.120 The truth about Mengele is more disturbing.

00:53:31.400 He was a highly trained doctor and medical researcher, as well as a decorated war veteran.

00:53:38.840 He was respected in his field and worked for one of the leading research institutions in Germany.

00:53:45.420 Much of his medical research at Auschwitz supported the work of other German scientists.

00:53:51.120 He was one of dozens of biomedical researchers who conducted experiments on prisoners in Nazi concentration camps.

00:53:59.080 And he was one of a number of medical professionals who selected victims to be murdered in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.

00:54:07.180 OK.

00:54:07.900 Mengele acted.

00:54:09.400 Listen carefully.

00:54:10.540 Now, it's a sketchy source.

00:54:12.860 Mengele acted within the norms of German science.

00:54:19.260 Under the Nazi regime, his crimes represent the extreme danger posed by science when it is conducted 0.82

00:54:29.680 in the service of an ideology that denies the rights, dignity, and even humanity of certain groups of people.

00:54:43.400 OK.

00:54:43.960 So they were doing experiments, these doctors, just in the camps.

00:54:50.640 This is late.

00:54:51.840 They're doing these experiments and they're doing experiments as physicians on sterilization, how to treat infertility.

00:54:59.820 Also, they were doing drug trials for bear and IB, IG Farben.

00:55:06.360 So bear aspirin, those people were paying these people for research for new drugs.

00:55:14.340 OK.

00:55:16.260 Mengele did not actively support the Nazi party before it came to power.

00:55:21.380 However, in 1931, he joined the Stolheim, the paramilitary of another right-wing party, the German National People's Party.

00:55:33.040 Mengele became a member of the Nazi SA when it was absorbed into the Stalin in 1933.

00:55:39.680 But he ceased his activity in the Nazi party in 1934.

00:55:44.880 During his university studies, however, Mengele embraced racial science.

00:55:50.100 What is that, Stu?

00:55:51.200 What is, again, I'm trying to remember, what is the basis of racial science?

00:55:57.260 I don't know.

00:55:57.840 Is there a subtitle of a particular book that might point to that answer?

00:56:02.060 Like favored races or something?

00:56:03.540 I can't think of one.

00:56:06.060 He believed that Germans were biologically different and superior to members of all other races.

00:56:12.760 Racial science was a fundamental tenant of Nazi ideology. 0.90

00:56:17.140 Hitler used racial science to justify the forced sterilization of persons with certain physical, mental, and physical deformities.

00:56:26.880 The Nuremberg race laws, which outlawed marriage between Germans and Jewish, black, and Romanian peoples, were also based upon favored races. 0.67

00:56:37.260 Just to remind you, there's a very, very expensive book you keep banging on the table.

00:56:42.260 Yes, I do.

00:56:43.980 This is eighth edition.

00:56:45.300 This is still pretty expensive.

00:56:46.780 It is.

00:56:48.000 In 1938, Mengele joined the Nazi party and the SS in his work as a scientist.

00:56:54.720 He sought to support the Nazi goal of maintaining and increasing the supposed superiority of the German race.

00:57:02.320 Mengele's employer, not the German Nazis, his employer and mentor, Dr. Vertuer, he was working at a clinic, and I'll tell you the name of that here when I get to the sources, also embraced biological racism.

00:57:25.760 In addition to conducting research, Vershauer and his staff, including Mengele, provided expert opinions to Nazi authorities who had to determine whether persons were qualified as a German under the Nuremberg laws.

00:57:42.300 So, they were just scientists, and they were getting some funding from the government because their goals matched.

00:57:54.120 And they were getting money from pharmaceutical companies because their goals matched.

00:58:01.700 Not all of them at first.

00:58:03.880 Was it one of these things, though, where, like, all these scientists believe the exact opposite, Nazis come into power, and then all of a sudden they had to change what they believed?

00:58:12.960 Was it that type of situation?

00:58:14.740 No, it really, it really wasn't.

00:58:17.600 Really?

00:58:18.040 Scientists in the biomedical fields, especially anthropologists, psychiatrists, geneticists, many of the medically trained experts played a role in legitimizing these policies and helping to implant them.

00:58:29.260 They'd embrace these ideas before Hitler came to power. 0.88

00:58:33.500 Wait, what was that last part?

00:58:34.560 They embraced these ideas before Hitler took to power. 0.84

00:58:39.020 Huh.

00:58:39.360 And they would welcome the regime because of its support of eugenics and support of their research. 0.98

00:58:46.640 Wait, not the other way around?

00:58:47.760 Not the other way around.

00:58:49.700 Isn't that weird?

00:58:51.620 You know, again, you're sourcing on this.

00:58:54.340 I think that's an interesting proposal, but, like, until you hear a source.

00:58:59.340 Yeah, and we can't judge.

00:59:00.440 Well, let me just give you one more thing, okay?

00:59:02.400 Physicians were drawn disproportionately to Nazism due to overcrowding in the profession aggravated by economic depression and as a backlash to the relatively high proportion of Jews in the medical practice.

00:59:18.500 So it wasn't just the eugenics doctors.

00:59:23.560 It was also 11% of the German physician were Jewish.

00:59:30.600 So there's a backlash against that.

00:59:32.360 It was a backlash because they were hungry and desperate.

00:59:36.400 And somebody gave them a reason to say, yeah, get them so I can have mine.

00:59:45.600 Now, I'm going to take a break because I just want you to realize what I'm saying here.

00:59:52.920 That it is not just the Nazis.

00:59:58.480 It's the doctors.

01:00:00.840 The doctors had this ideology starting way, way back.

01:00:06.920 And science was unleashed and promoted by a corrupt ideology.

01:00:15.720 They both had many of the same goals.

01:00:19.720 The Nazis just took it further than maybe some, some doctors may have wanted.

01:00:30.860 It's the collusion of government, pharmaceutical companies, the world of science and medicine that brought us the Holocaust. 0.91

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01:02:07.300 Okay, let me give you a couple of things here.

01:02:19.500 First of all, and I've shown this before, but I've never really have talked about exactly in detail what this is.

01:02:28.120 This is the last prescription that Mangala wrote, and we did extra research on it, because I wanted to make sure we were right, because we're taking this out on tour, and I want to make sure every word is absolutely right.

01:02:44.500 It's not the last one he wrote at the German Children's Hospital when he was there.

01:02:49.960 However, this was written for the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute.

01:03:02.200 They were the ones that were furthering all of this way before Hitler. 0.95

01:03:08.760 The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, they were killing people in this institute.

01:03:14.340 He wrote this for the institute.

01:03:20.140 It is for 1,000 liters of luminol.

01:03:29.320 That's a poison that you put in a small little syringe.

01:03:34.060 It's a sleeping medicine, and it makes the kids go night-night forever.

01:03:39.560 1,000 liters.

01:03:45.260 That's a lot of children to kill, isn't it? 0.99

01:03:48.440 And it went to the hospital.

01:03:52.960 Now, if you're a doctor or a nurse, you'd know what you're putting in.

01:03:58.820 I contend there were many reasons why people got involved in this, but flawed science was the key to the doctors, the idea of superior people and people who aren't quite up to the standards.

01:04:19.240 How many times did you hear from doctors here in America during COVID, should we even have to treat them if they refuse to take the COVID vaccine?

01:04:33.380 How many times did you hear that?

01:04:34.860 Once was too many.

01:04:37.300 How many times did you hear that?

01:04:38.600 How many times did you hear people dance around it, but they were discussing it?

01:04:42.120 How many times did you hear people in my position go, yeah, we shouldn't treat them?

01:04:46.920 I mean, they're making their choice.

01:04:49.660 You know, they're just killers of grandma.

01:04:52.640 This stuff spirals out of control quickly.

01:04:55.660 If you're a doctor, make sure you know who you're standing next to.

01:05:02.300 Make sure you know what is true.

01:05:04.780 First, do no harm.

01:05:06.360 By the way, the source is sketchy for some.

01:05:09.700 It's just the United States Holocaust Museum and Memorial.

01:05:16.880 So if you find the Holocaust Museum to be an iffy source, which I'm sure there are some, then you'd have to dismiss this.

01:05:27.840 Otherwise, I guess that's true.

01:05:30.780 I'm going to stick with the Holocaust Museum's facts, not facts from Media Matters.

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01:07:04.980 I want to talk to you about mis- and disinformation.

01:07:22.040 Misinformation is known to be misinformation.

01:07:25.540 The people who are doing it have – they know what they're doing.

01:07:30.800 They know what the truth is and they know how they're selectively spinning it to give you misinformation or disinformation.

01:07:37.540 When you look at our society, we're really only suffering from a couple of things.

01:07:45.300 And the main thing we're suffering from is we don't remember our own origin story.

01:07:52.380 We're like in Empire Strikes Back, and you have no idea how you got there.

01:07:59.800 No idea.

01:08:00.980 Okay?

01:08:01.260 Why is this even worth fighting for?

01:08:03.140 We don't know what we're even fighting for, most people.

01:08:07.780 And the origin story is constantly being changed on us.

01:08:13.540 Let me give you an example of this from the same people that are – what I was trying to point out last week with the Nazis is, 0.86

01:08:22.100 if you believe never again, then you must look at the origin story.

01:08:29.820 You have to see what seeds were planted.

01:08:32.200 We know that civil unrest is coming.

01:08:36.380 We know that a call for somebody to get everything under control is coming.

01:08:41.320 We know that hard times where people won't be eating are coming.

01:08:45.240 Well, those are many of the things that brought the Nazis to power. 0.93

01:08:49.380 Okay?

01:08:49.800 But there was another thing that they both happened to agree on from science, medical community, and the Nazis, and that is eugenics.

01:09:00.960 And so, how do you get to the ovens of Hitler?

01:09:05.200 Well, you get there through science and doctors.

01:09:09.900 That's how you get there.

01:09:11.100 That's how it happened.

01:09:12.360 So, we have to look at the origin story to see, is that origin story showing any signs here?

01:09:19.900 And the left knows this because they look at the origin story, and that's why everybody on the right is considered a Nazi.

01:09:27.680 He's a Nazi. 0.78

01:09:28.740 He goes, that's what Hitler did. 0.91

01:09:30.260 Okay?

01:09:31.000 It doesn't mean that that's the way it's going to end out.

01:09:33.540 It means you should look at it and be concerned.

01:09:36.580 Okay?

01:09:36.960 Watch for the signs.

01:09:39.240 They're changing another origin story, and they just can't get away with it.

01:09:46.200 It's the New York Times.

01:09:47.820 There was an article in the New York Times today about where did all of this trouble come from with transgender people?

01:09:55.960 Yeah, the title is How a Campaign Against Transgender Rights Mobilized Conservatives.

01:10:01.680 Defeated on same-sex marriage, the religious right went searching for an issue that would re-energize supporters and donors.

01:10:11.000 The campaign that followed has stunned political leaders across the spectrum.

01:10:16.240 Now, if you looked up the dictionary definition of gaslighting, it would give you this article.

01:10:24.520 It is legitimately reversing completely what happened and saying that transgender – everyone was just – there was nothing going on with transgender people at all.

01:10:37.220 That was totally fine.

01:10:38.300 Everything was going on.

01:10:39.360 Everyone was completely accepted.

01:10:40.760 And then conservatives were desperate for a political issue, so they started looking for transgender people doing things.

01:10:48.240 Now, first of all, even if that were to be true, the transgender people would have to be doing things, right? 1.00

01:10:54.740 Did we convince drag queen story hours to start?

01:10:59.160 Did we go recruit people to dress up in thongs and jiggle in front of children? 0.99

01:11:05.180 Was that our doing?

01:11:06.080 Did we say, you know what we'd like you to do today, boy?

01:11:10.480 Go play and go swim against all the girls in women's sports. 1.00

01:11:14.800 Did we do that?

01:11:16.620 I don't remember doing it, but apparently, according to the New York Times, we were responsible for starting this.

01:11:24.180 What happened is the opposite.

01:11:27.360 All of the sudden, people – we were supposed to –

01:11:31.460 Out of nowhere, seemingly, for most of the country.

01:11:34.500 Not teachers' unions and maybe even the press, but for most of the country, out of the blue.

01:11:40.720 Out of the blue.

01:11:42.060 All of a sudden, teenage boys were defeating teenage girls in swimming events.

01:11:47.060 All of a sudden, we were told to just accept the fact that our teenage children –

01:11:53.020 embrace it and go even farther –

01:11:56.060 that our teenage daughters were now going to get changed in the locker room with naked males.

01:12:01.860 At first, we were told that's a conspiracy theory that the Republicans are just making up because they're so desperate.

01:12:09.520 Right.

01:12:10.180 And when all of this started happening, and suddenly, instead of all of us uniting with 100% of all people left and right saying,

01:12:20.260 of course, we're not going to let a 16-year-old boy get dressed in the same locker room as a 16-year-old girl,

01:12:28.260 even though that was accepted for hundreds – thousands of years,

01:12:32.080 all of a sudden, we were supposed to accept the exact opposite behavior.

01:12:37.300 All of a sudden, it was obvious that it was hateful if you didn't want that to occur.

01:12:43.360 And what we're told from the New York Times is the reason for that is conservatives were looking for an issue.

01:12:50.680 We just – we ran out of the gay marriage talk, so we were like,

01:12:54.160 I don't know, maybe we should think about opposing women and boys and girls getting dressed together in the same locker room 0.92

01:13:00.420 or competing against each other or having drag queen story hours.

01:13:04.040 Let's come up with a mythical thing that's definitely not occurring.

01:13:07.540 We'll have to recruit people to participate in it, I guess.

01:13:11.780 But since it's not a real thing, let's get mad about it and create it from scratch.

01:13:16.940 That is literally what this article is describing.

01:13:20.400 Yes.

01:13:20.620 And let me give you how incredibly deep and well-researched this is.

01:13:26.380 When I go to the first expert quoted into why this theory is correct,

01:13:35.840 Ari Drennan, the LGBTQ program director for Media Matters.

01:13:43.960 Literally, the first expert they found is a person who works at Media Matters.

01:13:50.340 It's a strange world to live in, said Ari Drennan, the LGBTQ program director for Media Matters,

01:13:58.720 a liberal media monitoring group that tracks the legislation.

01:14:01.860 As a transgendered woman, she said she feels unwelcome in whole swaths of the country

01:14:08.060 where states have attacked her right just to exist in public. 1.00

01:14:13.080 Have you ever, has there ever been any conservative law that says,

01:14:22.480 you know what you can't do, exist in public?

01:14:26.300 What the hell have I missed?

01:14:30.540 Jiggling in front of children in thongs is not existing in public.

01:14:35.700 I'm sorry.

01:14:36.780 Getting changed in the same locker room as a 14-year-old girl,

01:14:43.420 if you're a boy, is not existing in public.

01:14:47.620 This is infuriating.

01:14:51.720 It is.

01:14:52.560 And again, the gaslighting thing is supposed to make you feel nuts, right?

01:14:56.540 That is the point here.

01:14:57.860 And I do.

01:14:59.200 Because this is the exact opposite of how this occurred.

01:15:03.240 And this is not me saying this.

01:15:06.780 This is the New York Times who's coming out here in a freaking news article,

01:15:11.280 not a commentary, not an op-ed,

01:15:14.560 a news article telling us this is how this story occurred.

01:15:18.620 It would make you feel insane if they didn't do it all the time

01:15:22.680 and their tactics were so obvious.

01:15:25.080 Which brings me, by the way, back to your little Nazi rant from last half hour,

01:15:29.060 which the same crap heap of a group that everyone has known is a crap heap,

01:15:35.160 Media Matters, and yet they still continue to use and hold up.

01:15:39.700 Can you imagine them being like, going to like, the Proud Boys as an example of an expert on a topic?

01:15:46.240 They would not do this.

01:15:48.320 And they do it with Media Matters all the time.

01:15:51.220 And they act, not even, this isn't even commentary on like, okay, we're Media Matters,

01:15:55.140 and this is what liberals think about news coverage.

01:15:57.080 No, we're just going to go to Media Matters employees who are obviously biased,

01:16:00.520 or they would not be working at this crap heap of an organization.

01:16:03.760 And they're going to go to them as experts.

01:16:05.240 And then this weekend, apparently you're trending about this Nazi situation,

01:16:09.180 which is just a fascinating example of how stupid our society is, right?

01:16:13.780 Like, what you said, I think, in the quote that they pulled out of context of a conversation

01:16:18.720 where you're talking about the origin story, the prequel, if you will, of the Holocaust.

01:16:23.600 How it all started.

01:16:24.120 How it all started.

01:16:24.960 How did this all start?

01:16:25.980 And you're talking about the problems that if, and you're not even accusing of this of happening right now,

01:16:30.620 but you're saying, watch the warning signs.

01:16:32.560 When governments and science work too closely together,

01:16:34.720 sometimes it gets out of control and can lead to bad things.

01:16:36.760 And you talked about the doctors and how they started at the beginning,

01:16:40.780 at the beginning, with killing people who were undesirable.

01:16:46.040 At the beginning, it was children who were living lives.

01:16:49.320 It was, quote, and don't say compassionate.

01:16:52.880 It's, quote, unquote, compassionate.

01:16:54.500 Because that's what they said they were doing.

01:16:56.800 And you were talking about that.

01:16:58.280 And you said, I may butcher the quote slightly, but you said, basically,

01:17:02.240 you know, it wasn't Nazis killing Jews.

01:17:05.640 It was the doctors who were doing it.

01:17:08.140 It was the Nazi. 0.78

01:17:08.940 It was the doctors who were Nazis. 0.64

01:17:11.040 Who were Nazis.

01:17:11.820 You even said that.

01:17:13.160 Just makes this even more infuriating.

01:17:15.200 So the beginning of this whole situation, you're talking about the beginning.

01:17:19.100 But in that one little clip that they pulled out of context, you didn't say at first.

01:17:22.900 You didn't say it was the doctors at first.

01:17:25.060 It wasn't Nazis at first who were doing it.

01:17:27.860 It was the doctors.

01:17:30.000 Now, literally anyone who listened to this monologue would know you were talking about the origin of the Nazi movement.

01:17:36.540 But even if I wasn't, Stu, even if you weren't, even if I wasn't talking about that, all of the doctors were Nazis in the end.

01:17:45.420 Yeah, they all turned up, of course.

01:17:46.500 Because they were turning the non-Nazis in. 0.66

01:17:50.040 Right.

01:17:50.320 Nazis had to go, non-Nazi doctors, they existed, but they certainly weren't standing up in mass because they would be the next with the syringe in their arm.

01:18:02.560 Right.

01:18:02.760 They knew that.

01:18:03.720 And you didn't accuse all doctors, as you pointed out, 11% of them were Jewish.

01:18:08.360 They weren't all doing this.

01:18:10.500 At the beginning.

01:18:10.680 Yeah, at the beginning.

01:18:11.280 There were none at the end.

01:18:12.140 Yeah.

01:18:12.960 So the point, though, I'm making is they take this part out of context where you make this point.

01:18:18.400 And you don't say at first.

01:18:21.100 And then they put it on the internet and a bunch of people, some people who even seem to like you, like are actually friendly, don't even bother to do the research.

01:18:28.520 Or even listen to the entire context.

01:18:31.480 And they say, gosh, I can't believe this.

01:18:33.200 Glenn Beck is saying Nazis didn't kill any Jews.

01:18:35.320 Now, what human being on earth believes that Nazis didn't kill any Jews?

01:18:40.520 It was only doctors that were Nazis, but it wasn't Nazis, which, again, doesn't make any sense because you even qualified it in the moment.

01:18:46.800 But if you take it out of context, and I'm now losing my voice, if you take, even, Glenn, Glenn.

01:18:53.520 I could give you, I could give you, I could give you somebody who doesn't believe that's true.

01:18:58.700 You disprove this.

01:19:00.100 The, the, the grand mufti of, uh, of Iran.

01:19:04.740 The guy, the, the head, the head cleric.

01:19:07.540 Holocaust denier.

01:19:08.540 Okay.

01:19:08.840 Holocaust denier.

01:19:09.800 Now, I don't know his exact views on the Holocaust.

01:19:11.600 Okay.

01:19:11.880 But I will tell you this.

01:19:12.740 Even Holocaust deniers know that Nazis killed Jews.

01:19:18.880 If you look at them, what they will normally say is they didn't kill 6 million Jews.

01:19:23.280 It was actually only 50,000 or 6,000.

01:19:25.720 But even they will admit, even they will admit that Nazis killed Jews.

01:19:31.880 Everyone on earth knows that Nazis killed Jews.

01:19:36.880 And according to media matters, but they put it out there and they didn't even say it.

01:19:40.500 They just put it out there as if you're just supposed to understand that Glenn Beck thinks

01:19:43.840 that Nazis, it wasn't Nazis.

01:19:45.220 It was doctors.

01:19:46.280 And look at, we've caught him, even though you didn't catch him.

01:19:50.480 This is something every single person, yet media matters.

01:19:54.760 Every single person involved in pulling that clip knows exactly what they were doing.

01:19:58.920 They all know they are lying.

01:20:01.740 And they do it every day for a living and through donations from people like George Soros, not,

01:20:09.080 well, and also exactly George Soros, but also people like George Soros, people who just

01:20:14.020 want to try to sink conservative media figures.

01:20:16.920 I mean, I'm going to keep, I could keep going on this, but I literally am losing my voice.

01:20:20.460 So I apologize.

01:20:21.320 Here's the thing.

01:20:21.880 The good news is you know the truth.

01:20:26.520 You just need to encourage others.

01:20:28.480 Don't ever fight the truth.

01:20:29.800 Don't ever shout anybody down.

01:20:31.180 You don't have to shout them down.

01:20:32.720 Anyone who is trying to silence anyone else's voice, they're on the losing side.

01:20:38.160 It's working.

01:20:38.760 I'm losing my voice.

01:20:39.780 Well, you're on the losing side, Stu, I guess.

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01:22:01.040 Glenn Beck.

01:22:01.740 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:22:20.020 Is the story of the leaker bothering you at all, Stu?

01:22:25.620 Yeah, I feel a little...

01:22:27.260 I feel like everyone's running to their corners.

01:22:30.220 And you don't really know yet.

01:22:31.500 We don't know yet.

01:22:32.340 I feel like there's a lot more to learn about this story before we know what the real truth of it is.

01:22:36.540 So, remember, Vindman did exactly the same thing, except he was protected as a whistleblower.

01:22:45.080 Now, this guy isn't saying he's trying to stop Trump, and so that might be the thing.

01:22:49.660 Right.

01:22:50.700 But, you know, so far, you know, when I grew up, we were in the Cold War.

01:22:56.120 And in the 1980s, I mean, they would arrest FBI, SWAT team would come in, and they would arrest some guy, and he was a Russian spy for all these years, and he was selling Navy secrets.

01:23:08.260 That kind of stuff, that kind of stuff, I understood.

01:23:11.100 This, I don't understand.

01:23:13.200 Because this kid doesn't look like he was trying to cause harm.

01:23:18.060 It looks almost as if he's trying to be the cool kid in the geek squad.

01:23:25.440 Or he really thought, hey, you guys should know this stuff, and he trusted nobody to let it out, which was ridiculous.

01:23:34.700 Although it worked for months and months and months, apparently.

01:23:37.440 Months and months.

01:23:38.260 And we are so quick to put this kid in jail, but those with political motives did not go to jail.

01:23:50.680 It's weird.

01:23:51.220 Yeah, I'm just, I'm a little weirded out by the inconsistency.

01:23:57.500 One, I'm not surprised by it.

01:24:00.460 But also the rush to grab even more power to monitor everything on the internet.

01:24:08.860 Because they weren't, they weren't monitoring this group chat.

01:24:14.160 And they, the government really needs to monitor absolutely everything now to keep things under control.

01:24:20.400 That seems a little like the Patriot Act.

01:24:24.300 Kind of, you know, hey.

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01:26:08.400 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:26:24.240 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:26:26.900 I want to talk to you about this leaker of these Pentagon Papers, and everybody is so

01:26:38.440 quick to jump on how evil this guy is, and I mean, look, it looks to me like he made really

01:26:45.080 bad decisions, but he doesn't seem to be an operative for another country.

01:26:51.520 Not that that makes it any less bad for the United States, but what was his motive?

01:27:01.480 Who is this kid?

01:27:03.760 Was he an agent?

01:27:05.760 How do they recruit agents like this?

01:27:10.460 Because I'm sure that they have all kinds of ways that they find agents online.

01:27:15.980 How do they find these people if he was an agent?

01:27:20.440 And what did it tell us, all of these leaks, about China?

01:27:24.940 I firmly believe that before the next presidential election or next president is in office, we'll

01:27:33.640 have a war on our hands.

01:27:34.840 And I think it'll be with China, because only because if I were China, I would say this Pentagon,

01:27:43.160 this president, we should do, we should grab Taiwan while we can, because it'll be easy. 0.93

01:27:50.640 Don't know if there's anything to that other than just my gut, but that's what I would do

01:27:55.980 if I were China.

01:27:57.300 What did we learn about that?

01:27:59.560 Anything?

01:28:00.040 We talked to Josh Rogan.

01:28:02.860 He is the author of a great book called Chaos Under Heaven.

01:28:06.760 We've had him on several times before.

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01:29:20.260 Josh, welcome to the program, sir.

01:29:21.860 How are you?

01:29:23.680 Great.

01:29:24.360 Great to be back.

01:29:25.020 Thank you.

01:29:25.860 We were just talking about this particular leaker.

01:29:33.320 He's not a whistleblower, but I don't think he was trying to hurt the United States.

01:29:39.080 I'm not talking about punishment or anything else.

01:29:41.200 I'm just trying to figure him out.

01:29:43.380 Do you have any insight on that?

01:29:44.680 Any thoughts?

01:29:46.620 Right.

01:29:47.020 I mean, listen, as someone who has been on the receiving end of leaks for 20 years,

01:29:51.760 there's basically four motivations.

01:29:53.280 One is that you're trying to vanquish your enemy.

01:29:58.780 One is that you're trying to promote yourself.

01:30:01.320 One is that you're doing it for giggles.

01:30:04.720 And one of it is that you're doing it for money.

01:30:06.840 And it seems, based on all the available evidence, that he was doing it for his ego, for giggles,

01:30:12.480 that essentially he's a moron. 0.74

01:30:14.380 Okay?

01:30:14.600 And it's a sad story because he's 21 years old.

01:30:17.980 Correct.

01:30:18.360 He threw his life away to be a big shot on a Discord server for a few months.

01:30:23.420 And that's a personal tragedy for him and his family.

01:30:26.080 But I think the point here is that because morons are likely to do moronic things, maybe we shouldn't give access to our top secret information to hundreds of thousands of people who inevitably some will be morons.

01:30:38.860 And so you could blame the moron, sure, but you should also blame the system that let the moron access all this stuff.

01:30:45.720 Correct.

01:30:46.580 Correct.

01:30:47.420 And, you know, all we hear from the administration is, oh, well, nothing went wrong.

01:30:50.980 Well, nothing went wrong.

01:30:52.580 Nobody takes accountability.

01:30:54.720 Then nothing will get fixed.

01:30:56.460 And you can't just say that nobody made any mistakes.

01:31:00.180 But that's exactly what this administration is.

01:31:01.760 But how everybody...

01:31:02.820 Then even if somebody didn't make a mistake, I mean, I know they put new traffic lights in all the time.

01:31:09.380 Here in Texas, you'll be driving down the street and there's no traffic light.

01:31:12.740 And all of a sudden there's a traffic light.

01:31:14.400 Why?

01:31:15.200 Because a lot of people started making mistakes and there were traffic accidents.

01:31:19.580 So nobody made a mistake not putting a light in there in the first place.

01:31:24.060 But once it's exposed as a problem, you change it and put a light in.

01:31:29.800 Nobody did anything wrong.

01:31:31.620 Well, how about the policies?

01:31:33.400 Because it seems like if he was allowed to do this, he shouldn't be.

01:31:40.740 Right.

01:31:41.320 And you can be sure that now the Massachusetts Air National Guard is going to get cut off from some of this stuff.

01:31:46.100 But to be honest with you, Glenn, I've been, again, 20 years of dealing with this kind of information leakage.

01:31:53.140 I'm here to tell you this happens all the time.

01:31:55.220 You go into any office in the Pentagon.

01:31:57.220 You go to any K Street lobbies.

01:31:58.960 You'll find classified...

01:32:00.380 You go into Joe Biden's garage.

01:32:01.700 You go into the Mar-a-Lago Party storage room.

01:32:04.200 You're going to find a lot of secrets just laying around.

01:32:06.740 It's just true.

01:32:07.640 And I'm actually surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen every month because of how horribly the handling of this top secret information is done all over our government.

01:32:17.000 Now, that's not to say that there isn't also a parallel problem here of overclassification, right?

01:32:22.080 Yes.

01:32:22.580 We're classifying way too much stuff.

01:32:24.800 But then the stuff that's really important to classify, we're not keeping it as secret.

01:32:28.540 So you can have two thoughts in your head.

01:32:30.920 One is that we need to classify less stuff and then take the stuff that's really classified and protect it better.

01:32:36.860 But we're doing neither of those.

01:32:37.980 So I haven't really heard from anybody that doesn't have an ax to grind one way or another.

01:32:44.720 Just talk about what he released.

01:32:48.780 Right.

01:32:49.180 Who did this really hurt?

01:32:53.420 What did we really find out?

01:32:56.320 Right.

01:32:56.860 So I put the disclosures into three buckets.

01:32:59.740 One is stuff we shouldn't know.

01:33:02.480 One is stuff we should have known about.

01:33:04.540 And one is stuff that we already knew about.

01:33:06.480 I'll explain what I mean.

01:33:07.180 Stuff we shouldn't know.

01:33:08.300 Right.

01:33:08.500 When we're spying on top Russian leaders, when we have a mole at the top level of the government of our enemy, that should stay secret.

01:33:15.280 Because once you blurt that out into the world, that guy gets killed, we lose our source and our country's security.

01:33:20.960 Let me make it very simple for everybody.

01:33:23.420 The first rule here, stuff we shouldn't know.

01:33:25.520 So that's the knock list that Tom Cruise protected in Mission Impossible number one.

01:33:31.980 Just saying.

01:33:32.740 Right.

01:33:33.100 All right.

01:33:33.560 So that's bad.

01:33:34.440 He should not have released that stuff.

01:33:36.260 Then there's the stuff that we should have known about.

01:33:38.280 This is what I reported on, Glenn, that China has tested a new hypersonic missile that can defeat our aircraft carriers and our missile defense.

01:33:44.640 In other words, we spent 30 years building aircraft carriers and missile defense, and the Chinese built a missile for a one hundred thousandth of the price that makes those things obsolete. 0.79

01:33:53.900 That seems kind of important for people to know.

01:33:55.820 Why were we hiding that?

01:33:57.080 That was in the documents.

01:33:58.020 I brought that out.

01:33:59.000 I think that there's a lot of stuff in the documents that American people should know because it reveals that the world is changing fast and our government really isn't on top of it.

01:34:06.700 It does make a difference because usually I would say, hey, we don't need to release everything that they have knowing what they have.

01:34:16.500 But I think there is, you hit it on the head, there is a need for the American people to understand the world is about to dramatically change, and the United States is sitting around with its hands in its pockets.

01:34:30.080 Right.

01:34:31.480 So maybe we shouldn't build more aircraft carriers, and maybe we should build the stuff that fights hypersonic missiles, because that's what our enemies are shooting at us, okay?

01:34:38.640 Correct.

01:34:39.160 So that's one big thing.

01:34:40.320 The third thing is stuff we already knew.

01:34:42.020 Now, this is like, you know, again, Glenn, we should have learned after like five years of like Russiagate that like the intelligence officials, when they're predicting the future, they don't really know what the hell they're talking about any more than you or me, right?

01:34:53.980 And they're, but they have to do it, they have to file these analyst reports every day, and then one of them leaks to Congress, like, oh my God, we figured out the future.

01:35:01.320 But nobody knows the future, so we know that they're full of crap, right?

01:35:04.060 So it's sort of like, okay, well, what do they do?

01:35:06.340 They end up saying, the Ukraine war is grinding towards stalemates.

01:35:09.440 Yeah, no, no, yeah.

01:35:11.520 I got it, I got it.

01:35:12.860 I don't know where you're going.

01:35:14.320 Or, oh, China has enough missiles and planes to bury Taiwan under a pile of rubble before they can do it. 0.77

01:35:21.260 That was today's story.

01:35:21.960 Taiwan can't defend itself from China. 0.64

01:35:23.360 But guess what?

01:35:24.320 That's true.

01:35:25.100 It's obvious.

01:35:25.920 Everyone in China knows it.

01:35:27.340 Everyone in Taiwan knows it.

01:35:28.520 So the fact that it got leaked from a document by a bunch of analysts who are probably reading the paper doesn't really bother me.

01:35:34.720 So that's the third, like, stuff that everybody knows.

01:35:37.000 And I think there is something that, you know, I have no access to secret information, but I think it fits into this category.

01:35:44.840 We have no real ability to fight a war with China, especially in Taiwan.

01:35:51.320 We have no ability.

01:35:52.060 We don't have the supply chain.

01:35:54.380 I mean, they could overwhelm us with drones from China.

01:35:58.840 Just knock us out of the sky with drones like crazy.

01:36:02.460 We're not prepared.

01:36:04.120 So all this talk about a buildup of war with China should be really concerning to the American people when you learn they have missiles like they have, hypersonic missiles.

01:36:16.740 And we're not prepared just in a supply line for anything that happens in Taiwan.

01:36:23.860 But nobody's talking about it.

01:36:25.360 Well, Glenn, I 100% agree with you because I was in Taiwan in November and I went to the front lines of the defenses and I found something that shocked me that the front lines aren't really there, that it doesn't exist.

01:36:38.820 The Taiwanese know that they can't defend from an invasion. 0.86

01:36:42.060 And guess what?

01:36:42.860 Our intelligence community knows that we can't defend from a Chinese invasion. 1.00

01:36:48.120 And, yeah, we're telling ourselves a story in Washington about some sort of fight over Taiwan that doesn't match the reality.

01:36:53.480 Now, there's two things you could do about that.

01:36:55.540 One is you could just admit it and say, OK, well, Taiwan, you guys are on your own.

01:36:59.600 I guess we'll just give all of our semiconductors, you know, to the Chinese and see how that goes. 0.94

01:37:05.160 Or you could fix it.

01:37:06.400 In other words, you could give them the stuff that they need to defend themselves and move our stuff closer to Taiwan to make our deterrence more credible. 0.51

01:37:14.020 All right.

01:37:14.200 Now, again, those are two legitimate arguments.

01:37:17.820 But what we're doing is the worst of both worlds because we're pretending that we can defend Taiwan when we actually know that we can't.

01:37:25.060 And they know we can't.

01:37:26.780 They know we can't.

01:37:27.520 We know it.

01:37:28.060 And the Chinese know it. 0.98

01:37:29.420 Right.

01:37:29.840 So they're not deterred.

01:37:31.200 And this is the problem that we made with Putin is we told ourselves that Putin was deterred and he wasn't.

01:37:36.820 And we know he wasn't because he invaded.

01:37:38.640 So what are we going to wait until that happens again?

01:37:41.060 Or are we going to learn that lesson and decide that if we care about these countries and if we're going to make a commitment to defend them?

01:37:46.880 And again, you may say, OK, well, we shouldn't commit that if we can't back it up.

01:37:50.660 Fine.

01:37:51.280 All I'm saying is if we do commit it, then we should back it up.

01:37:55.180 Absolutely.

01:37:56.040 Yes, absolutely.

01:37:57.140 We can't bluff our way through and then fold.

01:38:00.520 We have to back it up.

01:38:02.160 But we're not preparing for any of that.

01:38:05.700 And how far do these missiles fly?

01:38:08.660 And they're they're hypersonic, which I've just heard last week or the week before that we now have one.

01:38:15.300 But I don't know if I believe that this is a hypersonic, which makes it almost impossible to take down.

01:38:22.680 Right.

01:38:23.020 It's hypersonic, which means it flies faster than sound.

01:38:27.160 But it's also a hypersonic glide, which means you can maneuver it.

01:38:30.280 So when we shoot up the missile defense, all we have to do is maneuver around it and we can also they can also maneuver it to hit our aircraft carriers.

01:38:37.160 Basically, as far as Guam, half the Pacific is now, you know, no entry for our aircraft carriers if they decide to use these things.

01:38:43.980 That's a huge problem for Taiwan, but not just for Taiwan, for the entire South China Sea.

01:38:48.360 They're basically taking over Asia while we're sleeping. 0.99

01:38:52.160 OK, and now I'm not saying that we should buy hypersonic missiles to fight hypersonic missiles.

01:38:56.800 I'm saying that we should buy the things or build the things that defend against hypersonic missiles.

01:39:01.100 And so it's complicated and you have to think ahead of your opponent.

01:39:04.820 But right now they're thinking ahead of us.

01:39:06.940 And the scenario is that if China I heard you talk about the timeline, right?

01:39:11.780 The timeline for me is they'll go when they're ready.

01:39:14.520 They're not ready.

01:39:15.560 That's why I don't think they can go this year or next year.

01:39:17.760 Sure, they'd rather do it on a Biden watch than on a Republican watch, but they don't they're not ready yet.

01:39:22.320 So if you if you think about it, they'll probably get ready in about three or four years.

01:39:26.620 That's the best guess.

01:39:27.560 And we don't know who's going to be president then, but that's our timeline to prepare.

01:39:31.360 Oh, that would be that would be a dream come true if that if that's true.

01:39:34.820 And, you know, my sources tell me that they don't have the landing vehicles to be able to do an invasion like that.

01:39:43.300 They could they could clearly wipe everything out and defeat us, but they don't have all of the things they would need to really take that island.

01:39:53.200 Is that a good one?

01:39:54.880 Yes, that's right.

01:39:55.700 But there's three things that the Chinese are doing.

01:39:57.800 One is to prepare the invasion force, which will take three or four years.

01:40:01.040 The second is to prepare economic resiliency.

01:40:03.640 They saw the Putin sanctions and said, not for us.

01:40:06.200 Why do you think they're going around the world changing all of their business agreements out of U.S. dollars?

01:40:11.180 That's because when they attack, they don't want to be sanctioned.

01:40:13.880 So they're actively trying to protect themselves from sanctions.

01:40:16.420 That's number two.

01:40:17.400 Number three is they're building a thousand new nuclear weapons.

01:40:21.100 Why are they doing that?

01:40:22.180 Why are they building 400 missile silos in the middle of China and then a thousand nuclear warheads?

01:40:27.680 There's only one reason.

01:40:28.540 It's to threaten to attack us if we defend Taiwan.

01:40:31.460 They're building a nuclear deterrent, an economic resilience and an invasion force. 0.51

01:40:36.400 And all those things coalesce around 2027.

01:40:38.780 And we don't know who's going to be president here.

01:40:41.200 We don't know who's going to be president in Taiwan.

01:40:43.260 But we do know who's going to be president in China.

01:40:45.460 That's the president for life, Xi Jinping.

01:40:47.500 And he wants to do this.

01:40:48.760 And he's going to do this one way or the other.

01:40:51.060 In other words, he might not even attack.

01:40:52.840 If he can get us to not care and get the Taiwanese to switch governments to a pro-China government, then he'll do it without attacking.

01:41:00.060 And he'll just politically and economically.

01:41:02.500 That's actually better for him.

01:41:03.800 But he reserves the right to attack.

01:41:05.660 So we have to prepare for that and not only focus on the military part.

01:41:09.340 We have to focus on the economic coercion, the political interference, the cyber warfare.

01:41:14.220 This is how the autocrats wage war. 1.00

01:41:16.560 You know, it's not just guns and missiles and throwing recruits at the problem.

01:41:21.280 They're waging a multi-front hybrid warfare.

01:41:24.160 And we're not sophisticated enough to deal with that.

01:41:26.180 But we need to.

01:41:27.080 Josh, hold on for one minute.

01:41:28.960 I've got a couple more questions for you.

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01:43:02.240 So, Josh, one more question on this China thing.

01:43:04.680 And this is a really – this is probably crazy.

01:43:08.020 But if I were president, I – or somebody in the planning room, if there is one anymore, that it would be saying, okay, we've got to do everything we can to get some very high-tech, the best of the best chip factories here in America.

01:43:25.880 We've got to do everything we can to attract so we can get that high-end chip-making ability happening here in America as quickly as we can.

01:43:35.880 And then, honestly, the only thing I would do if they took Taiwan is – I hate to say this, but I would blow up those chip factories because that's really what they want. 0.52

01:43:47.880 Right, right.

01:43:50.160 Okay.

01:43:50.480 So, you know, Glenn, I can't lie to your audience.

01:43:53.220 I have to be honest.

01:43:54.200 I just can't help it.

01:43:55.200 We just took our best chance to build the next generation of semiconductor factories in the United States, and we flush it down the toilet.

01:44:02.940 But you've heard of this chips bill.

01:44:04.820 It was the first time Congress ever did anything in a bunch of years.

01:44:08.520 And what they did is they spent $50 billion to subsidize the semiconductor industry to build not the latest chips, to build basically the second-tier chips, okay?

01:44:17.660 We've got enough of those.

01:44:18.720 We can make those.

01:44:20.100 We can make those.

01:44:20.700 I mean, we need those, too, but, you know, it doesn't really get at that problem.

01:44:24.400 Now, I saw Tsai Ing-wen, the president of Taiwan, when she was in town, and they asked her, okay, well, you guys make the best chips.

01:44:31.100 Can we make them here?

01:44:31.900 And she said, listen, it's not possible because we spent 40 years setting up the supply line in the factories, and you can't just pick up all of that stuff and just move it across the world.

01:44:40.360 It doesn't work that way.

01:44:41.760 And we just tried to make this big investment, and we didn't do it.

01:44:44.740 It was a big payoff to these industries who, by the way, are taking separate money and going to build chip factories in China because they also do business in China, too.

01:44:53.020 So it's kind of a taxpayer subsidy that's being funneled out of the country, but that's a separate issue.

01:44:58.960 What I'm trying to say, to answer your question directly, is that, you know, if China takes Taiwan with those chip factories, then they will control the world economy for the next, let's say, 20 years. 0.65

01:45:10.140 Now, if they blow up the chip factories, then we're all screwed.

01:45:14.180 Then, you know, forget about your next generation robotics, your cars, everything.

01:45:19.640 But that's not really a good solution.

01:45:22.040 But, yes, I do think that if the attack is coming, that will be the choice.

01:45:26.440 And to be honest with you, it's up to the Taiwanese. 1.00

01:45:28.880 And the Taiwanese I talked to would rather not blow up their economy, and they would actually rather be subjugated to Beijing than to have no economy at all.

01:45:36.640 And that's, again, a reality that we don't like to talk about in Washington because we like to tell ourselves everything's fine.

01:45:42.020 Everything's not fine.

01:45:43.480 The only real way to save our economy and to not starve our businesses of the next generation technology is to prevent China from attacking Taiwan.

01:45:52.680 And the only way to do that is by upping the deterrence.

01:45:55.760 And that's why we have to be serious about defending Taiwan, not just about talking about it.

01:45:59.780 That's my view.

01:46:00.420 You made this through.

01:46:00.980 That's my view.

01:46:01.680 Okay?

01:46:02.220 Because all the alternatives are disastrous.

01:46:04.280 We don't want China in control of Taiwan.

01:46:05.760 That's a disaster for our economy, for our core interests.

01:46:09.240 And if we blow up the economy, well, that's kind of a nightmare scenario as well.

01:46:14.120 So why don't we just do what we say we're doing, which is to be on Taiwan's side to defend them from getting attacked for no reason?

01:46:22.640 Wait, I don't think I understand.

01:46:24.740 Wait, you mean like let your yes be yes and your no be no?

01:46:28.900 Do what you say and say what you mean and mean what you say.

01:46:31.500 Wow.

01:46:31.880 That would be a revolution in American foreign policy.

01:46:34.280 I haven't seen you 25 years.

01:46:36.300 I don't know about you, but why don't we try it just for once?

01:46:39.400 I know, but the other is working so well, Josh.

01:46:43.220 It's working so well.

01:46:45.640 It's just crazy.

01:46:47.140 Josh, thank you so much.

01:46:48.140 I appreciate all your analysis and your hard work.

01:46:50.740 Josh Rogan, the name of his book is Chaos Under Heaven, and it talks all about China and what we're really facing.

01:46:59.320 Josh Rogan, you can follow him.

01:47:00.940 He is a columnist for The Washington Post.

01:47:05.260 All right, you sick, twisted freak.

01:47:08.320 We come back with more on AI.

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01:47:18.680 Not a lot surprises me anymore.

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01:47:26.480 Yeah, I have the T-shirt to prove it.

01:47:28.200 But we're actually watching our country go down the path towards becoming a banana republic in real time. 0.86

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01:48:42.880 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:48:52.740 I was just having a conversation with OpenAI, and I was asking it to explain time in its realm, time in parentheses, because AI won't experience time like we understand time.

01:49:08.820 But in 24 hours, it can accomplish so much more than an average human could accomplish.

01:49:17.360 The updates and the things that ChatGPT are developing now are doubling in every 48 hours.

01:49:28.700 So its capacity or its—I don't even know how to explain it, because it's not necessarily growing on itself, but it is growing in power, scope, and intelligence at an alarming rate if you want to put this genie back in the bottle, which, by the way, no matter what anybody says, you can't do that.

01:49:53.140 It won't happen, because there will always be somebody that takes and takes this and makes a bot, and there's going to be people making bad things.

01:50:02.620 So I asked it, you know, define human time compared to your quote-unquote time and processing capabilities.

01:50:12.580 He said,

01:50:14.060 As an AI language model, I don't experience time in the same way that humans do.

01:50:18.500 I don't have feeling or consciousness, so I don't think or experience time at all.

01:50:23.640 My processing speed and ability to generate responses are based on the computational resources available to me, which can be scaled up or down depending on the specific implementation.

01:50:34.540 This is where AI gets really spooky as well.

01:50:38.160 Once AI has a dictate that it must survive or it must grow or whatever it is, must save humanity, it will start dictating its own computational speeds, and it will just start absorbing.

01:50:56.160 This is, again, science fiction, but it's about to be science fact, I believe.

01:51:00.720 It will just start absorbing full server farms, and it will just increase its computational speed and start to regulate its own energy and cut other people off from energy.

01:51:11.640 A rough comparison between human time and my processing capabilities, we can consider the concept of thinking speed.

01:51:20.540 One way to think about this is compare the amount of information I can process in a short amount of time to what humans might process in a longer period.

01:51:28.540 For example, it takes humans 24 hours, let's say, to read and comprehend a thousand pages of text.

01:51:35.260 I might be able to process this same amount of information in just a fraction of a second, depending on the available computing resources.

01:51:49.080 Now, why this matters is because as it grows, and as it grows closer to AGI, artificial general intelligence, that's a being like us, we're good at multiple things.

01:52:07.100 As it gets to AGI, you can give it a problem and then go to bed, and it is weeks or months in computer time.

01:52:22.760 In your time, you went to bed eight hours ago, you're coming back to the computer, but it has been working to try to solve that all night at such speeds that it would take months, if not years,

01:52:34.680 for you or a whole team of people to do that work.

01:52:38.040 So it is constantly churning.

01:52:43.260 That puts you in a time to where wars will be fought with algorithms, and they'll be fought in seconds.

01:52:52.880 If you had an algorithm that said, cripple the United States, it would either spit out a step-by-step on how you can do it,

01:53:03.860 or if you give it the space online, it will just do it.

01:53:09.440 It will just create all of the things it needs to cripple the United States or cripple China, 1.00

01:53:16.040 and it will happen so fast, somebody in China could come up with an idea today, and tomorrow we would be crippled.

01:53:22.480 This is why people are now saying, we've got to pause this, but I don't know how to pause it.

01:53:35.100 And maybe they're just saying, don't give it access, full access to the internet.

01:53:40.480 Now, it still has access to, I don't know exactly how this works, we should have an AI expert on.

01:53:45.460 I'm not sure how the access to the internet, because it's online, but I don't think it's engine.

01:53:53.660 I don't know how it works exactly, but they're saying keep it off of its own portal to the internet.

01:54:03.760 Yeah, it's interesting the way it learns.

01:54:05.720 For example, chat GPT, if you ask it, what were last night's basketball scores?

01:54:10.040 It can't answer that, because its learning basis only goes up to 2021, which is interesting, because people are going to be asking questions.

01:54:20.820 If you were to ask questions about, I don't know, masks, or the origins of COVID, but learning only goes up to 2021, it's going to answer probably something about how...

01:54:31.920 Gosh, think of that.

01:54:32.700 Think of that.

01:54:33.640 Right.

01:54:34.220 And there's so much we've learned in 2022 and 2023 already that are kind of important.

01:54:38.580 Now, maybe there are some exceptions to that, but it's a fascinating thing.

01:54:43.160 You won't know all the time where that line is or how much it's learned.

01:54:47.340 Certainly, it could learn all the way up until today.

01:54:51.060 I mean, they may be limiting that.

01:54:52.140 Yeah, but you don't even...

01:54:52.160 I mean, if you have nefarious thoughts, you don't need it to learn up to today.

01:54:57.680 You know, but you do...

01:54:58.520 The average person does need to learn about chat GPT or the internet, or the artificial intelligence and the internet.

01:55:08.580 Most people would really struggle, much more so than me, and I'm pretty well-read on this stuff, but I'm not a scientist or anything else, so I just have basic understandings.

01:55:21.000 You know, don't touch the stove, it's hot.

01:55:24.040 I know that kind of stuff.

01:55:25.200 I know, don't let it have full access to the internet, because that's when it can be everywhere.

01:55:35.280 It will just place itself in your refrigerator everywhere, and you'll never get rid of it.

01:55:41.420 I don't even...

01:55:42.160 I know.

01:55:43.000 It is...

01:55:43.520 You described this earlier as like us trying to predict alien technology.

01:55:47.740 It is.

01:55:48.320 No, alien life.

01:55:49.480 Alien life.

01:55:49.940 We don't have any idea how it operates, how it works.

01:55:52.180 It's so true, because I don't...

01:55:53.440 I mean, when you talk about that sort of stuff, like, I don't even...

01:55:55.320 How could that even be possible?

01:55:56.820 But it's...

01:55:57.320 It's so...

01:55:58.560 It happens so fast, and we are so...

01:56:01.280 Doubling every 48 hours.

01:56:03.900 They have never seen any technology compound this quickly.

01:56:10.460 Doubling every 48 hours.

01:56:12.980 Remember when I said, every day there will be something that comes out in the news that

01:56:17.640 you'll be like, I can't believe...

01:56:19.060 We just did what?

01:56:20.120 Yeah.

01:56:20.440 It's possible to do...

01:56:21.840 Well, you notice that's about once a week right now?

01:56:24.220 Yeah, it does feel that way.

01:56:25.420 Yeah.

01:56:25.560 Not once a week.

01:56:26.480 It's going to be every day.

01:56:28.560 Soon.

01:56:29.380 Soon.

01:56:30.340 We'll make 10 to 11 years of progress in the next six months.

01:56:37.980 Think of that.

01:56:39.440 10 years of progress.

01:56:42.980 In the next six months.

01:56:45.140 And then, God only knows.

01:56:47.280 They don't know how to predict this.

01:56:48.960 And like I said to you earlier off-air, for anybody who says they know what this is going

01:56:55.720 to do, they're mistaken.

01:56:58.380 This is as close as you could come to alien life.

01:57:03.260 It knows all about humans, but it's not human.

01:57:08.000 It may wildly misinterpret something like protect all humans.

01:57:12.980 You know, okay, well, protecting all humans may mean, or protect the planet may mean kill

01:57:17.920 all the humans.

01:57:19.240 You know, we don't know how it's going to think.

01:57:21.800 It is like predicting, oh, well, the aliens come down.

01:57:24.920 They're going to think this.

01:57:26.140 We don't know that.

01:57:27.000 It's a whole different way of thinking.

01:57:29.200 We don't even know how it processes things.

01:57:33.860 We know the algorithms that we put up, but it's a neural net.

01:57:38.160 And so how it's coming to these decisions, we don't even know.

01:57:43.500 How frightening is that?

01:57:46.040 We have created Frankenstein.

01:57:49.360 Some would, back then, back, you know, when Mary Shelley wrote that, she wrote that she

01:57:54.320 was inspired.

01:57:55.000 This is my belief.

01:57:55.780 I don't know if I could prove this out, but it's my belief that she wrote that at a time

01:58:03.140 when electricity was just starting.

01:58:06.480 And at the early days of electricity, they were, you know, they were hitting frogs with

01:58:09.880 juice.

01:58:10.700 You know, they were hitting, you know, hitting animals and like, look, and the frog would

01:58:15.400 jump, but it was dead.

01:58:17.480 And she was thinking about that technology.

01:58:20.600 And can you bring life back?

01:58:23.060 So Frankenstein and the, and the argument back then is, well, that life doesn't have a soul.

01:58:28.640 If you could do that, it doesn't have a soul.

01:58:31.820 Well, that's what we're creating now.

01:58:33.660 Will artificial life, if we can get there, will it have a soul?

01:58:39.600 No.

01:58:40.220 Will people claim its life?

01:58:42.220 Yes.

01:58:43.720 So is it life?

01:58:45.640 I don't know.

01:58:46.360 We haven't solved the Frankenstein question from the 1800s yet.

01:58:50.820 And we probably never will.

01:58:52.560 Yeah.

01:58:52.980 At least with some sort of unanimity.

01:58:57.040 It's interesting because I mean, I've been reading, I like, I read a couple of these like

01:59:01.920 message boards about ongoing scams.

01:59:03.980 I like, I love reading about these scams and you see so many of them are repeated, right?

01:59:08.320 Like, you know, there's, there's scams where people get sucked into romance scams.

01:59:12.860 They're, they get texts to random numbers and they're like, oh, oh, we should talk.

01:59:17.500 And then they become, they, they become friends with these people and then eventually convince

01:59:22.080 them to invest in cryptocurrency scams.

01:59:24.460 And like, there's all these things that happen and people are constantly victimized by these

01:59:29.860 things.

01:59:30.360 And we know, I mean, the joke one is the Nigerian prince, right? 1.00

01:59:34.160 Like, and you're like, how are people still following for this?

01:59:36.420 And they are still following for even that one right now.

01:59:40.360 Imagine being able, instead of having a thousand people.

01:59:44.120 You don't have to imagine.

01:59:45.080 It's already there.

01:59:46.160 ChatGPT will make that bot today.

01:59:49.740 And like you said, without a thousand people, it's one bot and it's sending out.

01:59:54.600 And every time it's rejected, it learns.

01:59:58.260 Okay.

01:59:59.040 And so it gets better and better.

02:00:01.560 How to manipulate people, real people, real people, identity theft is going to go through

02:00:06.400 the roof, through the roof.

02:00:08.740 And they believe too, that there will be examples of a, again, ChatGPT is going to have, if you

02:00:15.860 go on their website, it's going to have blocks against this sort of stuff.

02:00:18.400 But people will use this exact technology and there's already a hundred different versions

02:00:22.340 of it.

02:00:22.560 We just only talk about ChatGPT and BARD, if anything else, but there's a hundred different

02:00:26.340 versions of it.

02:00:27.320 A, a, a, one that is designed to do these bad things.

02:00:30.880 They believe it will convince people you need to go murder this person to save the country,

02:00:35.660 right?

02:00:36.720 Like you need to go.

02:00:37.900 When, how long ago did I say that would happen?

02:00:40.460 I can't believe it.

02:00:41.000 You've been talking about it for.

02:00:41.780 I said that very thing would happen.

02:00:45.000 That's crazy.

02:00:45.760 And it, and it will, you know, someone who, let's say you have an enemy, right?

02:00:51.280 You target people, someone you think is vulnerable.

02:00:53.860 And this happens with real psychopaths that do this to regular people in real life.

02:00:57.460 Now, imagine this times a thousand where, or a million or an unlimited amount when it

02:01:02.000 comes to ChatGPT or one of these clones, where you could go and convince people, I have

02:01:06.760 this enemy, you should, I want to ruin their life.

02:01:08.860 Find a real person who thinks they're talking to a real person, convince them to go do your bidding

02:01:13.240 for you.

02:01:14.240 I'm going to, I'm going to give you an answer that I don't think anybody else will give

02:01:17.660 you an answer on with this.

02:01:19.360 What do we do about this growing technology?

02:01:22.080 Do we ban it?

02:01:22.740 What do we do?

02:01:23.540 I'll give you an answer in just a minute.

02:01:25.660 Let me first tell you about gold line.

02:01:27.420 Warren Buffett said last week, we are not through with the bank failures.

02:01:31.080 Really?

02:01:31.620 I thought it was fine.

02:01:32.620 The Fed also says, now we're likely to see a recession this year.

02:01:37.140 Wait, I thought that was fine.

02:01:39.520 Thanks guys for admitting what we already knew.

02:01:42.460 They're calling it mild.

02:01:44.760 And you know what?

02:01:46.420 I'm inclined to take them at their word.

02:01:50.080 I mean, if it didn't seem like a lot of this was happening on purpose, I would say, sure.

02:01:57.380 Yeah, I don't believe the lies anymore.

02:02:02.600 When banks fail and you can't keep your money there, where do you go?

02:02:09.660 If the dollar, God forbid, fails, hopefully it doesn't.

02:02:13.540 But if it does fail, what do you have for dollars?

02:02:17.060 You know, this is coming out from all different states now.

02:02:21.580 I don't know if you've seen these.

02:02:22.500 These are gold.

02:02:23.280 What are these?

02:02:23.760 Gold bucks or something like that?

02:02:25.680 That different states are putting out.

02:02:28.500 Well, okay, that's good.

02:02:31.140 I think that's a really good step in the right direction because I don't believe just having gold on paper makes a difference.

02:02:38.800 You have to have physical gold.

02:02:40.240 Now, you're paying so much extra for those.

02:02:45.280 Go to Goldline, where you could buy just a, you could buy a bar of it.

02:02:49.920 You could buy an old coin, which is what I buy.

02:02:53.580 You can buy new ones.

02:02:55.380 You can buy silver.

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02:03:37.040 We were just talking about AI, and we'll get into more of this tomorrow.

02:03:49.620 But there is a great concern, as there should be, about what do we do about this because it's growing so rapidly.

02:03:57.040 And it could get out of hand just by one person.

02:04:00.720 And everybody's talking about, well, should we regulate it?

02:04:03.660 Should we not regulate it?

02:04:04.760 You know, you can't regulate it because it's all around the world.

02:04:08.100 And what?

02:04:08.500 You're going to regulate it so the government can do it with its pals? 1.00

02:04:11.660 That doesn't make it any better.

02:04:17.280 Thou shall not have other gods before me.

02:04:22.060 We've talked a lot about worshiping other gods, but we are worshiping our technology now.

02:04:26.460 We're even in a prayerful stance.

02:04:29.240 When you see people scrolling online, their head is bowed.

02:04:34.260 Like they're praying.

02:04:35.280 They're just, their head's bowed.

02:04:36.720 That's the way we look all the time.

02:04:39.160 And there's an old Sufi saying, that which you gaze upon, you will become.

02:04:46.240 That's universally true.

02:04:48.680 And look at us.

02:04:49.840 We're becoming more robotic.

02:04:51.900 The thing that we have to do, you want to prepare for eventualities, is stop being so reliant on all of these processes.

02:05:03.960 Start being more reliant on people, more engaged with people, less with the internet.

02:05:11.920 Use it as a tool, not the center.

02:05:14.580 If you ever catch yourself saying, oh, I couldn't live without this, get off of it.

02:05:19.500 Get off of it.

02:05:21.900 Because this technology could be the greatest blessing to mankind ever, could be the biggest curse ever.

02:05:33.120 Make sure that you are sustainable in your own life.

02:05:38.560 Make sure that you're not dependent on that.

02:05:41.980 Because the world could change rapidly.

02:05:45.220 And my guess is, it's going to, rapidly.

02:05:49.820 So, be a survivor.

02:05:51.840 Make sure you concentrate on self-control and regulation.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 17, 2023

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