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A new poll released by Quinnipiac University has President Trump down to 37% in the latest CNN/ORC presidential poll. But is this a good thing or a bad thing? And what does it mean for the future of the country?
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welcome uh great to have you with us it is pat and stew for glenn uh today
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triple eight seven two seven b e c k uh interesting poll just released by uh quinnipiac
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thought we might go over here and uh it's got some really interesting uh findings about
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and welcome to the glenbeck program today with uh pat and stew uh the quinnipiac poll has uh
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taken the pulse of americans supposedly uh president trump is down to 37 percent in this poll
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interesting have you have you looked into the uh
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uh into any of the stats involving this quinnipiac poll i have not let me i've not even seen this i thought
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you've analyzed virtually every poll that ever comes out i mean it is sort of like you know
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my daughter gets very excited when a new taylor swift record comes out i get excited when the new
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poll i know i know this is taylor swift to you it is basically uh you know a swifty um it's my version
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of being a swifty but no i actually have not seen this one yet um that is 37 percent seems really low
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yeah now quinnipiac famously is pretty negative uh for the whatever republican it happens to be in
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office um they are a legitimate pollster but like you know they these places have what they call house
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effect so house effect is where is it typically tilted right yeah my remembrance of quinnipiac is
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usually tilted against the republican a little bit that doesn't mean they don't have value by the way
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like it's you would just have to judge it against itself you don't judge it against another pollster
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because they have different ways they're doing it and that's usually what the house effect is
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if you judge it against maybe the previous poll uh that they asked the exact same question in the
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exact same way with the same people running it a lot of times you can learn things that way but like
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i'm not surprised that it's low 37 is about as low as i've seen on trump though uh even me too in a
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negative poll for him yeah uh with republicans it's 84 percent approval 84 to 9 uh that's by the way not
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great that's not great it's usually in the 90s yeah usually you want to be in the 90s yeah um you saw
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this with biden during his last few months he kept seeing numbers in the 70s which is pretty low i mean
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if i remember right right before nixon left office he still had a 70 approval rating among republicans
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so now he said overall approval ratings was in the it was in the 20s i believe but it was all
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republicans basically for democrats uh it's really close 98 to 1 so 98 disapprove 1 approve yeah uh and
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i guess there's 1 to i don't know kind of thing that is one way to buy by the way you can read these
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polls um because it's difficult it's difficult at times to you know there's a lot to sort out but if
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you look at republican loyalty versus democratic loyalty a lot of times you can pull something
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valuable out of that the independence sometimes people identify sometimes they're not paying
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attention that group moves around like crazy but you should expect high levels 90 plus in both of
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those categories yeah so in the 80s it's kind of rough 98's really good they really don't like
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donald trump has have you noticed that at all though i haven't noticed that a new thing they don't seem
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to like him at all yeah that's weird huh uh for independence pretty low to 58 31 disapprove um so
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it's a bad poll for president trump yeah but i was i was more interested in some of the other issues
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like um 60 oppose the united states sending military aid to israel that seems pretty low 60 oppose
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sending military aid to israel in their fight against hamas only 32 support 60 to 32 so you're
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saying it's surprising that surprising there's so little support for that i mean i think the campaign
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of putting starving children who aren't starving with diseases on the front cover of every newspaper
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it's been successful it's been also it has on social media too has you know i've even seen posts from
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people who don't normally talk about politics that i follow they're like look i don't follow this very
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often and i i might not know everything about this region but can we just you might not know anything
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maybe you don't know anything maybe you may not know anything because i feel like you have an instinct
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you're identifying there to not comment on this issue and you're probably right that you shouldn't
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have just so you know your instinct was right good safety tip just don't just don't comment on it
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then that would be advantageous to all of us but uh we had a reporter on uh my show earlier today
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that uh was talking he'd been to the gaza strip and he checked out the food situation and uh went to
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the u.n's area where they store the food where the uh where the gazans come to the palestinian people
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come to the food to get it or actually it was the one with the u.n they deliver it
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95 percent of those shipments get commandeered by either hamas or other armed gangs
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that are just 95 but just 95 not 100 now they also uh place it in an area where the people go to it
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and that food is protected by armed military and that food is uh 100 almost 100 being used by the
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palestinian people so if you are in that area you're able to access the food but if you're in
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an area where you the u.n or whomever is supposed to deliver it it's being commandeered by hamas and
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then they try to sell it it's unbelievable but they use it for themselves all reporting even the
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reporting that says how bad it is in gaza um if you scroll down to paragraph 84 85 in the story
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it will tell you yeah it's not the idf doing this it's not the idf doing this uh in this in these
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cases and it will it will also tell you that every hamas warehouse is fully stocked the ones they're
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using for themselves yeah they got plenty of food they're having no problems at all with starvation
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they've got the food they're holding it for themselves that is something that actually has
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been consistently reported just you know under an ad for you know it's a pop-up window pops up over it
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every time you're trying to read it but it's there i mean you can find that information if you care
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enough to but you know so many people don't but that is there and that's not you know it's not
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surprising that but i i'm not surprised i guess in this poll that you'd see a lower approval over this
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and and it's fascinating because when october 7th happened this was quite clearly the plan of the
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mission yes this was absolutely exactly what they wanted to happen when they went over and
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murdered all these jewish people and raped all these jewish people their goal quite obviously was not to
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win a military conflict with israel they knew they can't they knew they couldn't do that they're not
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gonna do that no they knew going over there this was going to make israel get very angry and come
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across the border and uh try to shut all this down and and all that they were willing to accept
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they were willing to accept their people if there were some starving they were willing to accept that
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what they wanted was this reaction from western media this is what exactly and they got it of course
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they got it they don't care how many civilians they sacrifice by the way they don't care that's why
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they use them as human shields that's why they have uh military weaponry in hospitals and schools
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and they because they're using the civilians as human shields and then you know all of the western
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media is accepting the numbers that come from a hamas organization the health ministry gee what's
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surprising that those numbers are high my favorite thing and it's very easy to do if you see a news
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source report report the following phrase according to the hamas run gaza health ministry uh-huh you
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never you know what you could free up your time because you never should read it again right i mean
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you know that's what they all say it's like at least at the very least if there's not skepticism
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attached to it uh it's worthless but it's all been really effective uh the propaganda has been
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really effective for hamas and the palestinians 37 percent of americans say they sympathize more
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with the palestinians than the israelis 37 to 36 so they're a point above water uh for the palestinians
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despite the fact that if you poll the palestinian people they will tell you 70 80 90 percent of a huge
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percentage believe that americans should be killed in terrorist attacks right but we're gonna as
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opposed to one of our uh closest allies uh israel uh we are we're gonna we're gonna have a an even
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split there it shows how effective this has been oh it has been very so effective and these are the
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people who danced in the streets on 9-11 when we got attacked and 3 000 people lost their lives
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um so it's i mean the propaganda yes is is working well um just to give you an idea uh the propaganda
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for ukraine has worked out really nicely too uh let's see 40 50 percent of voters uh would only 50
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percent would oppose u.s ground troops as part of the peacekeeping force i think that's a really bad
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idea to send u.s troops between ukraine and russia uh so um i'm against that
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but only 50 percent of americans are 40 percent supported sending u.s troops to ukraine as
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peacekeepers so in this scenario the war ends yeah right yeah and you're i mean i i probably wouldn't
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be as hard against that as you are uh i think i would prefer it to be european troops i think it's
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really dangerous um i think it is you're right really dangerous um i do think i would like this war
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to end and i would too one of the one of the ways that it seems possible that it could end
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is you know new look new borders are going to be drawn and i know that's not fair to ukraine
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but that's probably what's going to happen here and at the end of the day if you could find a way to
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try to uh dissuade russia from doing the exact same thing again in a year or two yeah i think you
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want to do that i think the way i would want to do it is not american troops there no i'm all about
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finland's troops being there finland yeah they'd be great they'd be great they'd be awesome germany
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uh send some germans yeah usually they don't even get along that well but they can both stay there
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right if the uk wants to send some troops good good for you yeah that's kind of how i am with it
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as well i mean it's a european situation so let europeans deal with it i think that's probably the
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right way to do it if it meant ending the war i'd consider a few placeholders you know like we we have
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this in certain areas around the world and i'm not as we've had this conversation before i'm not
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as opposed to it as you are to have like troops in south korea for example like i don't i don't
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i'm really done with that too right and i get it i yeah i get it um i don't want to be involved in a
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war but i do like the idea that it it does dissuade north korea from doing something when they know we're
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on the other side um but i do understand your point and at this at this point um you know i think that
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at least on the right there's a lot of people who have come that way um but when you look it's
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interesting did you see the this is uh other nerdy polling we were talking about harry enton on cnn
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the other day who highlighted this man maybe a couple weeks ago we played it on the air uh that
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the uh trump voters in america have swung wildly back toward the favor of helping ukraine
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in this war over the past three or four months um which is interesting yeah that is interesting
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yeah i mean and because i have not right again you you were very much against it from the very
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beginning the now of course trump has kind of bounced back and forth a couple times on this
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more recently um he has been very critical of putin and has been much more skeptical of him and since
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that change occurred the right has kind of moved their position from being uh totally opposed to
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helping in any way uh to now the majority actually supported the slight majority now wow that also
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goes along with it's important i think to note it goes along with a trump um policy change which was
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going away from giving them a bunch of weapons to selling them a bunch of weapons and so i don't know
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how much of that affected the polling numbers there might have a little bit i think it might
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have but i think i also know the american people uh pretty well and um while audiences like perhaps
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the the the audience that is tuned into this program is very well informed on the back and forth
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of back and forth of policy changes the american people generally maybe not as in tune to that so i
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think probably it's more just associated with trump's tone right trump was you know he was yelling at
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vladen zelinski you know you know they're having meetings and they're you know they're you're
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screaming at each other in the in the white at the white house that's changed now to really you know
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he's pretty pissed at putin at this point yeah so i think that might be part of of the change there
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but he probably should be pissed at putin right now i think that's uh very fair yeah very i think
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that's totally fair and i'm pissed at putin too i just don't want to be involved in it frankly yeah
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i'm just really done with stay the heck away from i i get it i get that uh all right uh there's a
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are you would you be opposed to selling weapons to ukraine like we sell them to directly or
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selling them to europe and then they give them to ukraine i frankly that i don't mind that i don't
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really care about that difference i i what i what i'm saying is we sell weapons that are used in this
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war to ukraine but don't it's selling them i'm okay with that probably okay with that yeah because
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they're not an enemy of ours per se you know and i they're just it's just a weird ally because all of a
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sudden they become this angelic face of democracy yeah yeah exactly and they're not and they're just
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not no i mean russia's certainly worse but you know ukraine is not canada let's say uh and canada
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is not that great canada's going in an interesting direction themselves these days they are they are
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how about air support u.s military air support to help end the war would you support that u.s
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military air support u.s providing military air support to ukraine if it leads to a
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deal to end the war so we're flying planes we're flying jets over uh nope that's that's a full no
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for me anything like that is a full no for me 62 to 29 supported that's interesting very uh with
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democrats and we did this switch i can't figure out exactly when and why it occurred but it did
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maybe four democrats yeah who were like miss they're anti every war we ever covered in the
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last 20 years of the show about it right bragged about it constantly i was against iraq from the
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very beginning were you were you really but 74 to 18 support it in democrats 61 31 independence
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with republicans it's still uh 21 above water 57 36 so the american people support it i don't but
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yeah i i don't want playing that's i look it's kind of a you know not to be overly critical of
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the way they did this poll but that is my lot in life uh you know act adding on a fake positive
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consequence to a scenario is a weird way that is true conduct a poll like because we all want the
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war to end right like if we were to say hey are you for bashing in the windows of that mercedes over
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there if it leads to world peace it's like yes okay okay yeah i guess that doesn't make me in
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favor of bashing in windows of mercedes yeah right but you know so it's a little bit like i don't know
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yes if it leads to the end of the war i think people are going to approve of a lot of things but you
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could phrase it a little differently like uh are you in favor of u.s military air support if it leads
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to world war three it might be a slightly negative yeah but yeah probably be negative exactly i mean if
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you're gonna do these sort of like hypothetical polls poll both right exactly if it leads to direct
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military conflict with russia i mean i think that would be our approval would be like two percent
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which it probably would it could i mean i do think russia is and putin putin has been i think pretty
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think he's tried to use part of trump's persona which is a real desire to not want people murdered
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in war yeah he really does want this over very true and his honest pursuit of that goal i think has
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been uh manipulate i think trump has excuse me putin has tried to manipulate the situation and use trump's
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goodwill yeah uh against him which i think is an awful thing and it's one of just i mean it's not the
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worst thing putin's ever done there's a zillion of those we could list but uh i think trump is sick
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it's pat and stew for glenn today uh we were just talking about this
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quinnipiac poll and uh the 37 percent support for trump in this particular poll that's pretty low
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he's doing better than that in other polls right yeah just to note uh in case you were wondering
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is this a a common occurrence not really here are the last 10 polls this is from uh the silver
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bulletin nate silvers thing um 37 approval is quinnipiac then you've got 47 45 41 49 41 49 47
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40 38 54 are the last 10 who did the 54 that was insider advantage did that one that's right i saw
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that poll yeah that's as high as i've ever seen a couple weeks ago now but still those are the last
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most recent 10 overall average is at 43.9 approval uh that is uh you know certainly down from his highs
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you know and he hovers around 47 right 46 47 is not where it usually is no i know i mean his first
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term was definitely more negative than that he's his this second term has been better for approval
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rating for donald trump than his first term was um he started off a little bit over 50 and you know
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slowly and every president this happens with uh you slowly come down the first six months of your
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presidency i mean that has happened almost every single president in recent memory uh he came down
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and bottomed out at 43 let's see 43.6 in april um and has been pretty much flat since little ups and
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downs but 43 is probably where you 43 44 is about where he's been in the average approval rating that
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takes into account again places like insider advantage have much more positive numbers and quinnipiac that
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have much more negative but you kind of look at that average and get a basic idea um this the
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quinnipiac poll also polled how people feel about his handling of the epstein files uh there might be
00:27:22.060
some issues there uh two-thirds of voters 67 disapprove of the way the trump administration is handling
00:27:29.020
the epstein files 19 percent approve uh 14 have no opinion i will say i can understand why you would
00:27:36.820
have disapproval of that a weird thing to be like no i approve of the way he's doing it exactly
00:27:41.220
not because he's done anything right or like i have my criticisms or whatever but even and i don't know
00:27:46.560
that he's behind it actually yeah i look more toward cash patel and pam bondy on that yeah i think that's
00:27:52.540
probably that's probably right but again it's just a weird thing to approve i approve of him
00:27:57.120
releasing a certain percentage of the documents but not like what would be the thing you'd approve of
00:28:03.460
i don't know i could see not caring yeah i mean i can see not caring about it which is kind of i
00:28:09.180
think trump's more public facing attitude on this which is he's like hey this is old the guy's dead
00:28:16.100
right i didn't do anything right leave me alone i think that's kind of his position with that i agree
00:28:21.880
with the fact that he's dead and um you know it's not necessarily trump's fault and i don't think he had
00:28:29.740
anything to do with i don't i don't think he's involved in you know there is no wrongdoing
00:28:35.280
evidence at all whatsoever that he was having glane maxwell said that yeah yeah so now that is not
00:28:41.740
the july mask glane mask was going to say whatever she can to get out of prison i thought you might
00:28:47.420
feel that way yes you can't trust glane maxwell this is not there's not a controversial statement
00:28:52.960
she also cleared bill clinton right she'll say so she'll literally say anything right now to get
00:28:58.560
herself in a better situation she's going to be in prison for the rest of her life however the the
00:29:02.820
point that that's not why i would have used it if they had information on him of course they were
00:29:07.300
much more persuasive right they would have if there was actually really terrible evidence in there about
00:29:12.620
donald trump we'd know you think joe biden and kamala harris would have gone through an entire
00:29:17.100
election without outing this somehow they they would do anything to sink this guy of course they would
00:29:24.260
i mean look if you go back you can find stuff where trump and epstein obviously very early on
00:29:30.520
before the criminal stuff was known about epstein yeah they knew each other they hung out a little
00:29:34.700
bit you know they were and and you can the left likes to pull up the the quotes of you know donald trump
00:29:40.140
saying how you know uh epstein you know like liked liked liked him on the younger side you know he's
00:29:47.300
even he even referenced his uh what they called at the time playboy sort of attitude that epstein was
00:29:55.140
known for that was a well-known part of jeffrey epstein at the time it wasn't well known that he
00:30:01.060
was also going after girls that were underage that wasn't known until he was actually charged with it
00:30:07.300
and everything before that is completely excusable like there are plenty of people by the way bill gates
00:30:12.940
is one of them uh steve bannon is another one of them that interacted with with epstein after
00:30:18.600
after it was known right not no and i'm not making any accusations of those people on when it comes to
00:30:26.120
uh you know the worst things we know about epstein i'm just saying like we're like hung out with them
00:30:31.460
you know uh interviewed them uh you know do you know uh at least uh allegedly uh uh tried to help
00:30:41.860
them try to help him and restore his image is that stuff true i don't know it's been reported a bunch
00:30:47.340
of times but who knows but gates obviously had some problems there because his wife brought it up uh
00:30:52.480
so you know that there was an issue there of some sort i mean she didn't like him hanging out with
00:30:57.300
jeffrey epstein frankly pat wouldn't you have an yes like if a person who is very uh uh very famously
00:31:06.000
uh incredibly accused to the point that they were you know that they went to prison
00:31:11.800
for it uh had sex with a bunch of 14 year olds would you hang out with them would you entertain
00:31:19.360
helping them rehabilitate their career would you there's a lot of questions i would have about
00:31:25.300
anybody who did something like that none of them are positive questions none of them are related to
00:31:31.040
uh their real estate acumen they're all sort of related to why why would you why are you hanging
00:31:38.020
out with that person and there could be there are reasons for that like you know you you could see
00:31:41.680
a minister for example a pastor who might get involved with someone like that should try to bring
00:31:47.640
them to god right like that's a legitimate reason sure if you're trying to help them in that way maybe
00:31:52.380
that's when you're talking about like their their pr in the field like i would say no if you're
00:31:58.220
talking about like hey he just invited me over for dinner at his uh his very expensive apartment
00:32:04.180
and we're just gonna hang out and and then have no real excuse as to why you didn't say no to that
00:32:09.360
invitation because of all the sex with the 14 year olds i do have questions about that i think that
00:32:15.120
sounds very sketchy to me yeah sus as they say these days pat it seems a little sus uh so but that's
00:32:24.600
just me that's not a that's not we don't know we don't know for a fact uh that any of that stuff went
00:32:30.780
down and and like i don't think you know i don't think when you you know i doubt he he really did
00:32:38.300
document this as way the way it was rumored i don't know that there really was this detailed hey this is
00:32:44.300
how many times bill clinton did this i don't know i'm beginning to think he didn't because uh you know
00:32:50.660
everybody is everybody who's involved in it everybody who is supposedly seen it now says he didn't have
00:32:58.880
those files so yeah i and i and pat there's so many people on both sides of this politically
00:33:06.720
and so many people that had access to this with an obvious agenda to take out the other side yeah
00:33:12.760
you'd think at this point we know i know a lot of people don't believe that i you know i think a lot
00:33:17.640
of people believe it's it's like and they might be right i don't know uh but but like i think a lot
00:33:22.740
of people think hey you know now there's way more there and everybody was involved in it and
00:33:27.100
you know i don't know i i tend to think that like the interest in having sex with underage girls
00:33:33.540
isn't as widespread as a lot of other people think it is i i feel like i talk to people a lot of times
00:33:38.800
and it's like every famous person does this i'm like i don't i don't think that's accurate i don't
00:33:43.680
think everybody in hollywood was interested in it i mean you think about like some of the things they
00:33:48.080
talk about these widespread like parties that go on and it's like i i'm sure there are corners of this
00:33:55.660
world where horrible things like that occur but like when you're talking about widespread uh you
00:34:01.380
know uh and you see the names on this list there's hundreds of them of that like new epstein or flew
00:34:07.280
with him or whatever you're telling me none of those people walked in there and were like whoa wait
00:34:12.880
a minute whoa what the heck what is going on here and and did anything about it i maybe i just have
00:34:19.680
too much faith in humanity i feel like somebody would have done something about that
00:34:23.100
and eventually you know we got we eventually found this information but mostly he was doing
00:34:28.960
this if you look at the reporting of the of it at the time and and what came out from after
00:34:32.740
uh many of the criminal investigations what he was doing was intentionally going after disaffected
00:34:39.120
disconnected young girls who were victims of things in high school that you know were desperate for
00:34:47.680
money and in a situation with bad you know parental relationships that the you know that they would
00:34:54.620
groom and bring over there and that was kind of the whole operation at least that was known at the
00:35:00.600
time um that's not to say that he didn't have more going on i think it's very possible but we just
00:35:05.640
haven't found the evidence of that at this point and i don't know it feels like we would have by now
00:35:11.260
there's a lot of interest in it quite frankly yeah that's just i mean i you know i think glenn
00:35:16.100
disagrees with me on that i think a lot of people do i just so you don't think it was as widespread
00:35:20.440
i don't think you don't i'm not saying there weren't examples of it like you know prince andrew
00:35:24.580
really like it seems like something went on there right like that would be what i would look point to
00:35:29.980
again i don't know if you're listening to some of the victims then yes he was involved but if you're
00:35:35.620
listening to some of the victims so was alan dershowitz and then they just changed the victims changed
00:35:39.600
their mind and said oh wait maybe he wasn't yeah you know what i mean like i don't know i i you know that
00:35:45.240
the dershowitz thing i think was was impactful in me i'm thinking this maybe wasn't what was
00:35:50.820
initially proposed because of the fact that uh virginia geoffrey who you know is now dead she
00:35:57.080
killed herself um she has a by but still has a new book coming out okay she were she has a new book
00:36:02.640
coming out soon oh this is very odd really apparently wrote a book before she died and then killed
00:36:08.440
herself coming out soon that'll be interesting yeah and that plays into the conspiracy theory sure and i and
00:36:14.120
the whole thing is very she didn't yeah i mean she went through she had a bad car accident and i
00:36:18.500
remember this and yeah you know with the bus or something and then yeah it's a terrible story i
00:36:22.820
mean her story is absolutely terrible whether you yeah from start seemingly quite clearly really bad
00:36:28.180
things happened to her yes but at one point she kind of accused everybody every famous person around
00:36:33.860
epstein of engaging in this stuff and uh and then dershowitz was like man i'm one up suing over
00:36:42.780
this and she wound up saying oh yeah maybe it wasn't him like you know again that's it's tough
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to yeah it is that's that's a tough one it is i don't know what you i don't know what you make of
00:36:51.260
that i know what alan makes of it he's pretty pissed about it as he said on the air many many times
00:36:57.160
so anyway long story short i can understand why you disapprove of the way they've handled the
00:37:03.140
documents saying hey we've had some of these and that's enough it's hard to say i would approve of it
00:37:07.780
but i think the trump opinion of like hey leave me alone on this i didn't do anything
00:37:12.520
there's a lot of bad people involved in this i wasn't one of them yeah i can understand why he's
00:37:17.160
the biggest blame goes to the people like pam bondy i think who said she'd seen them they're on her desk
00:37:23.260
and she's gonna release them soon it's just that you know what the way you handled it was so
00:37:28.460
terrible it was just terrible it was just bad handling yeah and like they released it we talked about
00:37:34.040
this at the time they release a video uh that's supposed to prove that uh he was not killed in a
00:37:39.940
cell now i don't know if he was killed in a cell but that does but the video didn't show the cell
00:37:45.420
yeah it shows kind of a problem right and if you're gonna promote it that way you can't
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you have to instead like i we we made this argument at the time you have to go to somebody who's really
00:37:57.160
involved in this case you know a conservative someone who's on your side and say hey the only video we
00:38:03.320
have shows it down the hall doesn't show the the actual cell doesn't show the actual door to the
00:38:08.540
cell block right has the floor near it that's all we have it's not great but that's not the way they
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set it up right instead it was this is proof yeah and then you see and you're like well wait a minute
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it's not it's not proven it doesn't prove that he was murdered but it doesn't prove the opposite
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either it proves nothing it just proves that there were you know people there walking around nearby
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that did but you can't even see the staircase fully up until the door up into the door right
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it proved nothing and so i understand if you happen to be someone who's you know more engaged in the
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story than maybe i am why you'd be concerned i get it i don't understand why you'd be like i'm fully
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we didn't get through half of the poll stuff that we wanted to get through there's a bunch more uh some
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interesting things about how you know how do you deal with a family who disagrees with you on
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over here real quick yeah that's pretty interesting uh do you think having opposing political views
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is ever an acceptable reason to cut off contact with a family member you ever done that pat you
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ever stop talking to a family member over politics no i never have it i just try to stop talking about
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politics yes exactly don't cut off relationships now friends you might just because what am i getting
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out of this friendship right right like yeah you know you're more likely i do have family members
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who disagree and but you still talk to them just don't still talk necessarily go to politics if you
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still love it uh but yeah well it's interesting there's a huge split among voters as to whether
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you would do this 40 percent of kamala harris voters say yes oh my god i would do it comma
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40 percent a bit higher than uh uh non-voters so people who are not involved and you think okay
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though they're not as into politics that's only 18 percent okay people however the lowest group
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trump voters trump voters are the least likely to cut people off because of politics isn't that
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interesting only 11 percent so four times as many kamala harris voters will cut off their family
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Stu, you mentioned earlier, off air, something that I was kind of intrigued by.
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And that's that in your feed, there's a car guy that comes up, talks about cars.
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I follow a bunch of people who do YouTube car reviews.
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And so there's this one guy, I don't know who he is, but he pops up and he's often reviewing
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in the YouTube shorts, electric cars from China.
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China's not known for their auto manufacturing.
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I will say, watching this situation play out and watching a lot of these reviews, they look
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A lot of them have really incredible technology.
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Well, I guess technically they could be sold in the US.
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I think it was 125% tariffs on electric cars from China.
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It's really, really high to the point that you couldn't...
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Now, this is affecting not just Chinese car makers, but also, like, for example, Lotus,
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And have forever made really tiny sports cars that are very light and fast, but not...
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But anyway, their new line of cars is all being made in China, and you basically can't import
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them here because of the tariffs being really, really high on those vehicles.
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And, like, you kind of understand why that happened, right?
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And we have a burgeoning electric car industry in this country.
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And it was, you know, it was quite clearly a protectionist measure, right?
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Like, we were protecting our auto industry and trying to hurt the Chinese auto industry.
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Didn't want to give them access to our markets.
01:32:45.520
But they apparently have a pretty cool innovation, it sounds like, with their EVs, right?
01:32:50.520
Well, this is what kind of struck me, Pat, because I was thinking about back in the day,
01:32:57.540
They're living their lives on a day-to-day basis and have absolutely no idea what the
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And to the extent of it where, you know, Yeltsin comes to the United States and goes
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It was honestly a turning point in the Cold War, arguably, like, where they realized,
01:33:18.620
wait a minute, we'd been told America was so bad and terrible.
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And then we see what they actually have, and they're amazing.
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Obviously, it's not to that extent now, but there's some weird thing going on now in the
01:33:28.960
world of electric cars where, I don't know, I just always kind of assumed everything that
01:33:38.040
Like, it was just, you know, maybe they come up with a cheaper version of something that
01:33:42.040
we're doing, but it's not going to be as nice as the stuff we're doing.
01:33:44.260
Because the perception is, and it's, I think it's in large part reality, it's that any
01:33:51.980
Because in a lot of cases, they have, they have, the industrial espionage that China
01:34:02.280
And that's true, although I also assumed, like, you know, they just didn't have the same
01:34:08.780
And, like, we obviously buy lots of products from China.
01:34:17.620
A lot of it's trash, obviously, there's a lot of Timu jokes out there that you could
01:34:23.100
So, you know, but like, yeah, some of the stuff they use is fine, but it's usually
01:34:29.120
Now, obviously, they have a big part in making the iPhone, for example, or have to until recently.
01:34:38.540
So, what's happening with Chinese electric vehicles is that they are building all these
01:34:43.840
and dominating the global markets, and we're not seeing any of them.
01:34:48.420
We have no awareness, even, really, of what they're doing there.
01:34:52.340
The video that you mentioned that I saw the other day is they now have an electric vehicle
01:35:01.380
That will charge your electric vehicle from zero to 60% in five minutes.
01:35:09.400
I've mentioned many times on the air that when you can recharge the vehicle, the EV, in about
01:35:15.960
the same amount of time as a gas station stop, then I'm in.
01:35:21.140
Totally reasonable request for an American consumer, right?
01:35:25.220
You don't want to sit there for 45 minutes or an hour while your car recharges.
01:35:29.680
And there are some fast chargers here that do a decent job.
01:35:41.720
Like, it's not technology that we have here in the United States at all at this point.
01:35:48.000
And you get to that place where you start thinking, gosh, is that...
01:35:50.900
I don't want to get to a place where we aren't even aware of this stuff.
01:36:01.060
I want a playing field that we go out on and we dominate them.
01:36:07.300
It's super like, yes, the flag is flowing right now.
01:36:10.440
And when the playing field is level, I think we do dominate them.
01:36:18.600
And that's why they've got this extensive espionage network in industry.
01:36:33.160
It's a well-known fact that most of what they got and most of what they have, they stole from us.
01:36:37.760
And it doesn't feel like a thing we should encourage.
01:36:40.140
And that's why I was upset with President Trump announcing that they're going to allow 600,000 Chinese students into American universities.
01:36:55.200
So, I don't know if that means right away, over 10 or 20 years.
01:37:01.520
Are you talking about all foreign students and you're just including Chinese in that?
01:37:06.600
So, you're saying maybe we're going to allow 600,000 foreign students total and the Chinese will be part of that.
01:37:11.660
Right now, they make up, I don't know, between 250,000 and 300,000.
01:37:19.260
So, I don't know if he's doubling that with the allowances or if that's just part of all foreign students.
01:37:30.440
I don't think we should allow the number of students that are here to begin with because of the espionage thing.
01:37:37.640
I also think, like, the theory behind this, right, is not just like, hey, you know, the left wing, everyone deserves to be here type of thing.
01:37:46.600
The theory of it is you're taking the best students from around the world and they come here and make us better, which is an understandable theory.
01:37:54.660
But what seems to happen, especially with Chinese students, is they come here, they learn from our universities, they take innovations, technologies, and just bring them back to China.
01:38:06.560
I almost feel like if you're going to do this, if you're going to have people imported, you almost have to have some sort of culpability for the companies and the universities that bring them in.
01:38:16.940
Like, there should be some sort of understanding that these students, if they're going to come here and they're going to benefit us in that way, should be required to stay if we want them to.
01:38:30.740
If we should be required to work at an American company, you know, maybe they are responsible, kind of like held up.
01:38:38.320
You're getting something out of it, so should we.
01:38:47.500
And we've kind of been conditioned, it seems, over the years, the prior to President Trump years, to believe that we shouldn't ask anything about people.
01:38:56.680
Of the people that come here, legally or illegally.
01:39:01.000
Every country on earth asks something about their immigrants.
01:39:07.260
Yes, we know we have a lot to offer, but what do you bring to us?
01:39:15.940
So, would you be, you're against this increase?
01:39:23.980
I don't know why he didn't really explain that part of it, but he mentioned multiple times when he made the announcement that it was important for us to do this.
01:39:35.220
You know, one of the tough things with President Trump, I think, for the average person, and honestly, even us, I think, at some level, to really understand when he makes public comments like this is.
01:39:46.560
So, often, the comments he makes publicly are not aimed at us.
01:39:53.780
They are aimed at the Chinese government he's currently negotiating a trade deal with.
01:40:00.540
He is thinking, he's thinking, hey, we need to get X done.
01:40:07.180
You know, he says, he does this all the time with Russia and Ukraine.
01:40:10.160
You know, he'll one day say, you know, Vladimir Zelensky is the worst guy in the world, and the next day he's the best guy in the world.
01:40:22.780
Like, two days before we got 10% of Intel, he was saying this guy needed to step down.
01:40:31.280
And then, two days later, I just entered a deal with Intel.
01:40:38.320
Like, it's like, it's, none of those things mean anything.
01:40:41.940
Like, he, it, the Intel guy wasn't the worst guy in the world, and he isn't the best guy in the world.
01:40:49.320
And, you know, what, to Donald Trump, like, he's always in negotiation.
01:40:53.500
And it's very important for the average person to understand he's not in negotiation with you.
01:41:02.260
He's saying it publicly so you hear it, but he's talking to somebody else.
01:41:06.820
And I think there is a legitimate argument to be made that that is a tough thing to deal with as a voting populace.
01:41:20.780
Like, we are used to one way of doing business, which is people say things to us, for us.
01:41:26.320
And we oftentimes read into these things, like, wait a minute, he's saying this, and what does that mean?
01:41:32.640
It may very well mean that no Chinese students are going to ever come, right?
01:41:41.080
Because he's trying to, at this point, sweet talk President Xi.
01:41:45.100
And then next week, he might be tough on President Xi.
01:41:49.040
And that might be what he believes is the best thing for the country and for what he wants to get done.
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We were saying we're going to rain down fire like no one has ever seen.
01:42:07.220
And he's like, hey, want to hang out and watch some NBA?
01:42:12.980
And like, what are you supposed to take out of that?
01:42:15.260
Are you supposed to take out of that that President Trump is, you know, deranged and can't make up his mind?
01:42:21.480
That's what the media wants you to take out of that.
01:42:32.880
In a lot of cases, he got what he wanted, right?
01:42:35.540
They all came to the table and they changed their deals.
01:42:37.580
And you can have a discussion as to whether you think what he wanted was the best thing.
01:42:40.980
But that doesn't mean you should be able to detect at this point what he's doing.
01:42:46.940
If you care about politics, if you care about what he's doing, if you care about the country, if you care about what the president is trying to communicate, you should realize this is his goal.
01:42:55.420
His goal is almost never speaking to us and saying what he means to us.
01:43:01.940
Like, he does get to that at times, but on a day-to-day basis with, and not almost never, that's an overstatement.
01:43:09.600
But with statements like this, his goal is not to convince us we need 600,000 Chinese students in the country.
01:43:21.900
And that's hard for, I think, Americans to deal with because that's how we've been taught things are done.
01:43:32.520
It's hard to help people who can't even recognize that very basic thing.
01:43:37.620
And the Democrats refuse to recognize that very basic thing.
01:43:42.940
I think the Democrats know it, but they find advantage in acting like they don't know it.
01:43:49.820
They find advantage in saying, you know, taking everything he says as if it's gospel and that he's not negotiating and going along with it because they can come up with this sort of like plausible deniability that allows them to make him into orange Hitler guy.
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I don't remember what it was he came up, but he did.
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One of the things we mentioned concerning Alec Baldwin yesterday was that phone call he made to his daughter a long time ago.
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It was like, I don't know, 2007 maybe, when he called Ireland and she was...
01:46:02.900
No, he called his daughter Ireland, who was 11 at the time, or 12, or 9, or however old you are.
01:46:09.940
He didn't really even know the age of his daughter, but he berated her.
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Like, I don't think I've ever heard from a father to a daughter.
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And then, afterwards, you found out something interesting concerning him.
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I torture myself and try to flip through the New York Times to prepare for this show.
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And I'm flipping through, and can you give me the headline of this?
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Alec and, what is it, Hilaria or something like that?
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That they bought for, you know, multiple millions of dollars and have renovated multiple times.
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And they go through, and they give you a picture after picture after picture after picture of the indoors.
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It says, my daughter Ireland has a great sense of humor.
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She sent me something to commemorate some unusual moment we had together, said Mr. Baldwin, who for years hid a grill shaped like a pig in a small playhouse on the property.
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A couple of weeks ago, Ireland, her husband and her daughter came to visit.
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Hilaria and Ireland have a similar sense of humor, which is at my expense, pretty uniformly.
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To show the picture of the grill, it is a grill shaped as a little pig.
01:48:02.480
It is a Traeger little pig freestanding pellet grill Mr. Baldwin's 29-year-old daughter, Ireland Baldwin, gave to her father a few years ago as a gift for Father's Day.
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Mr. Baldwin left when she was just 11 years old.
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In the viral voicemail, he called her a rude, thoughtless little pig.
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This is in a glowing profile about how beautiful her home is.
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Especially after we just talked about it yesterday.
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It's a story that happened in 2007 or whatever.
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We haven't mentioned it in years, and that story comes out today.
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There's a photo of their indoors where it is a giant painting of the wife, Hilaria, in front of a bunch of boxes of rice-a-roni.
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Because the story was that he loves rice-a-roni, Alec Baldwin.
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And then in the story, she says, you know, I don't think I've ever actually seen you eat rice-a-roni in the story.
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I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old or 11 years old, or that your mother is a thoughtless pig who doesn't care for what you do as far as I'm concerned.
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You have humiliated me for the last time with this phone.
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What a moment between father and daughter, right?
01:51:30.560
It would warm my cockles if I hadn't had them surgically removed years ago, as you know.
01:51:39.280
But for those who have left theirs intact, you know they're warmed right now.
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We were talking about the Chinese EVs and the fact that they've got an EV now that apparently
01:51:56.780
So, like, almost the time it takes you to get your gas.
01:52:01.440
Seems to me to be pretty obvious eventually this will be possible.
01:52:07.800
In order for it to be viable for everybody, it has to get to that point.
01:52:14.040
And it's not, like, impossible to figure out how to charge batteries faster.
01:52:17.840
I think it's a matter of cost and, of course, infrastructure, right?
01:52:20.360
Like, eventually, you know, I mean, I see the Tesla chargers all around town.
01:52:26.240
And, you know, they're almost exclusively empty.
01:52:40.940
This is what kind of, like, makes me interested in owning one of these things at some point.
01:52:47.520
I was recently entertaining a purchase of a Tesla, Pat, for a couple different reasons.
01:52:59.500
I feel like we talked about this a little bit yesterday on the air, but maybe it was off the air.
01:53:05.260
But there were, like, I have kids that play, you know, sports.
01:53:12.960
We have, you know, basically a nonstop carpool going on with him and a couple of his friends to go to there on the same team.
01:53:19.240
And his two friends that are on the team that I have to cart around are both catchers.
01:53:25.360
So, they have the gigantic catching bags that, like, I can't fit in my car.
01:53:34.740
And I have to put my son's ball bag in the back of the car, like, in between the two kids to go back and forth to do this.
01:53:46.760
It's not a big enough car for what my needs are right now.
01:54:01.860
Obviously, you don't have an engine, a traditional type of engine.
01:54:04.680
So, you have extra storage space in some of them.
01:54:09.680
But I kind of like the idea of, one, going to his 8 a.m. baseball games that he has to arrive at 7 on a Sunday.
01:54:21.140
I kind of like the idea of the full self-driving as a little assist with that particular process.
01:54:27.500
Also, as you may have noticed over the years living in Texas, a little warm at times.
01:54:34.780
And so, obviously, you get into a car and it's really hot.
01:54:39.060
Like, I got into the car the other day out here in front of the studios and it was 115 degrees inside the car.
01:54:46.060
Now, they do have auto start for gas-powered cars.
01:54:49.520
Mine is a manual transmission, so it does not offer that option.
01:54:54.140
Well, and you wouldn't anyway because of climate change, I'm sure, and how conscientious you are about the environment and the planet.
01:55:04.780
I was thinking the other day, what if I just start the car and leave it going?
01:55:09.620
The problem is now they have an auto shut-off feature, too, which they will, if you just idle it for, I don't know, 15 minutes or something like that, it just turns off.
01:55:20.000
Like, a lot of times I'll go and I'll be sitting somewhere, you know, I'll get lunch and I'll be eating it in the car.
01:55:45.320
What you're doing when you pop that thing up on my screen is you're just calling me fat.
01:55:51.760
You're saying, hey, no human being could be sitting as long as you are, right?
01:55:56.320
I get what you're doing to me and I don't like it.
01:56:01.860
One of the reasons I really like the idea of the Tesla, and we have a couple people around here that own them,
01:56:07.220
is you can control that inner temperature to a degree that is not even possible with the auto start feature.
01:56:16.140
Like it is, you set it up, you want it at 70 degrees, you put it on 70 degrees, it's like a home, right?
01:56:23.320
It just is the temperature you want it to be when you walk out to it, if you set it up correctly.
01:56:27.760
And you can control it through an app from indoors.
01:56:35.040
So, I go, I've been considering this and I keep backing off because of my same hesitation with electric cars.
01:56:46.980
I don't think I'm really going to like the charging process.
01:56:49.700
I don't really want to put in the new electrical equipment in my house to do it.
01:57:00.600
What if it doesn't really charge as much as they say?
01:57:05.860
And I keep thinking to myself, it would be great if I could just try it.
01:57:11.200
And then maybe I trade in my other car for one of these.
01:57:14.080
So, I saw a tweet from Tesla, which basically says, we're introducing a new leasing program in California and Texas only, where you can now lease used Teslas.
01:57:32.440
Now, I have been reading a lot about, I'm interested in this, I've read a lot about the electric car market, particularly the used electric car market, which is, what I've come to understand, a catastrophe.
01:57:47.500
They're not doing, they're not performing well at all.
01:57:49.560
And so, I can understand why they want to sell a bunch of these things.
01:57:53.840
But the advertised cost for one of these was like $200 or $300 a month.
01:58:01.340
You know, that's almost like an extended rental, right?
01:58:07.460
So, I go to the website, I click on the options, and they have a two-year and a one-year lease.
01:58:16.560
And I was thinking to myself, that's a great option.
01:58:18.780
I can try this for a year, a few hundred bucks a month.
01:58:23.340
You know, I can go to the whenever I need to use it.
01:58:25.660
If I love it, then maybe I trade my car in and buy a new Tesla at the end of this.
01:58:32.080
If I don't love it, you know, worst case scenario, it helps me get to a couple of these practices I need to get to.
01:58:38.260
And it's a little bit of a waste, but not that big a deal.
01:58:46.100
Finally go through and find the used electric vehicle I want to purchase.
01:58:50.780
Which, you know, again, as is typical when you go through these processes, I upgrade it a little bit.
01:58:57.000
So, it's like $350 a month or something like that.
01:59:00.740
And I'm looking at it, and it says, you have to give them this deposit.
01:59:17.980
And, you know, I'm sure there'll be the fees and stuff or whatever a little bit.
01:59:23.980
It's usually a little bit more after you go through the process.
01:59:32.520
And then, they put me into the leasing process.
01:59:38.620
Because the second I click on the first thing, it says not $350 a month, but $720 a month.
01:59:57.640
Yeah, and they want thousands of dollars when I take, you know, when I close on the car.
02:00:05.500
Which wasn't mentioned before at the start of this.
02:00:10.100
They said something about, like, you know, does not include fees or something like that.
02:00:19.700
I had underestimated what the costs would be even then.
02:00:26.280
Instead of the $4,200, which I had initially agreed to when I sent the money.
02:00:34.080
The total cost of ownership for one year of this Tesla, $14,806.
02:00:45.560
More like $1,200, $1,200 a month for this Tesla.
02:00:51.760
Well, so I go to them and I say, hey, like, this is crazy.
02:00:55.100
It's close to four times as much as you told me this was going to be.
02:01:12.140
And I say, okay, that's the best option, right, for me.
02:01:15.180
I don't want to spend $14,000 for a year of an extra car.
02:01:22.360
I just want to make sure I'm going to get my refund.
02:01:27.840
The $2,500 that you've spent to see the price that was four times higher than the price they told me it was going to be is now non-refundable.
02:01:42.840
I can't imagine Elon Musk even knows this stuff goes on, right?
02:01:49.900
So I can't imagine he has any awareness of this type of thing.
02:01:54.540
And I understand, you know, look, there's taxes, there's fees.
02:01:56.280
Is that just a scam, then, to get everybody to give them $2,500, and then they cancel and,
02:02:04.020
Well, what it's always been called is bait and switch.
02:02:08.180
And I'm not saying, like, I'm sure they have in, you know, paragraph 94, some disclaimer
02:02:21.300
...who is doing this to see if I wanted to do business with Tesla in the future, that
02:02:27.360
I have had a very clear message sent to me that the answer is no.
02:02:35.820
I don't know how else to even deal with something like that.
02:02:40.400
Eventually, they said they would give me $500 back.
02:02:43.900
Out of the $2,500 I gave them, which was the order fee.
02:02:52.900
And then they also say, I said, well, wait a minute, I am reading the fine print again
02:02:58.360
because now I've really become, you know, like Willy Wonka with the fine print and I'm
02:03:04.840
And it says I have to get rejected on the lease to get the $500 back.
02:03:14.580
I guess I have to now lie about either how much money or how good my credit is because
02:03:20.120
I have to get them to reject my lease application, which I don't want to give them because I
02:03:38.920
I wasn't even going to talk about it, but now I've been ranting about it on the air for
02:03:44.340
I mean, Elon needs to know if he doesn't already.
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And now I have the person on the chat and I've decided that if they're going to keep
02:03:54.780
my $2,000, I'm getting $2,000 worth of conversation out of this.
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I'm just going to keep following up and pestering them with question after question, request after
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I'm going to make a lifelong relationship form out of this.
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