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00:01:21.280 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:29.280 It's a celebration of womanhood. 0.80

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00:01:33.500 That that that is just the beginning as we as we celebrate the power of women by making Miss Nevada a transgendered guy. 0.99

00:01:50.880 I mean, I think this is fantastic.

00:01:52.940 It really is a celebration of everything, everything about women, you know, and I think when the guys walk into the bathroom with their ding-a-ling showing, I think there's nothing there's nothing that celebrates women more than that.

00:02:10.420 We have that story coming up, also more on the NFL.

00:02:18.540 Stu did a little bit of homework on the shooter that we told you about yesterday at this time that killed a police officer.

00:02:26.420 And we're going to start with something positive.

00:02:28.240 There is a real problem with Generation X and Z. 0.96

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00:04:19.480 If you're a Blaze TV subscriber starting tonight at 9 p.m. Eastern,

00:04:25.180 you're going to have full access to a new series that I'm releasing just for Independence Day.

00:04:30.960 It's a special production of the 1776 Report.

00:04:35.940 What is the 1776 Report?

00:04:39.420 Well, let's go to cut one, please.

00:04:42.880 You may recall that the 1776 Commission was established by President Trump in the fall of 2020

00:04:49.900 with the purpose of promoting patriotic education.

00:04:54.240 That I will soon sign an executive order establishing a national commission to promote patriotic education.

00:05:01.760 It will be called the 1776 Commission.

00:05:06.260 Well, the media and academia almost lost their minds over this now controversial idea

00:05:11.620 that we should teach young Americans to actually love and appreciate the nation they've inherited

00:05:17.500 by telling them the whole truth.

00:05:20.260 The 1776 Commission had to rush the development of this report because they knew

00:05:25.420 that as soon as Joe Biden was sworn in as president, the commission's days would likely be numbered.

00:05:31.900 The 1776 Report was instantly demonized by the media,

00:05:36.600 mostly because it was commissioned by the Trump administration.

00:05:39.220 But it was clear from the avalanche of criticism that virtually no one actually read the report

00:05:46.220 or even gave it a chance.

00:05:48.060 Predictably, just hours after Biden took the oath of office,

00:05:53.320 he signed an executive order to dissolve the 1776 Commission.

00:05:58.280 That was one of his first acts in office.

00:06:01.100 President Biden had an opportunity to work toward his campaign promise to be a uniter

00:06:05.760 by keeping the commission going.

00:06:08.520 Instead, he squashed the commission on day one

00:06:11.560 and had sent a clear signal about his true priorities and his belief of America and our founding.

00:06:18.060 So, I've decided to take this commission's report and make it into a series.

00:06:26.660 All of it becomes available tonight for Blaze TV subscribers.

00:06:30.800 And then tomorrow, I believe it goes up on my Instagram and Facebook pages,

00:06:37.720 one episode at a time until Independence Day.

00:06:45.060 It is really, really important.

00:06:49.740 This is our greatest weapon, the truth.

00:06:54.040 And the truth is storied.

00:06:56.420 The truth is full of really great things and really bad things.

00:07:02.360 But you have to start with America's principles and the idea behind America.

00:07:10.200 These facts provide necessary and wise cautions against unrealistic hopes and checks,

00:07:16.920 against pressing partisan claims or utopian agendas.

00:07:21.760 Too hard or too far.

00:07:23.440 The principles of the American founding can be learned by studying the abundant documents

00:07:30.760 contained in the record.

00:07:33.540 Read fully and carefully.

00:07:36.380 They show how the American people have ever pursued freedom and justice,

00:07:41.580 which are the political conditions for living well.

00:07:45.740 To learn this history is to become a better person, a better citizen,

00:07:49.380 a better partner in the American experiment of self-government.

00:07:53.440 Compromising actions by imperfect human beings.

00:07:57.860 The American story has had its share of missteps, errors, contradictions, and wrongs.

00:08:04.920 These wrongs have always met resistance from clear principles of the nation.

00:08:10.640 And therefore, our history is far more one of self-sacrifice, courage, and nobility.

00:08:17.820 America's principles are named at the outset to be both universal, applying to everyone,

00:08:25.860 and eternal, existing for all time.

00:08:29.540 The remarkable American story unfolds under and because of these great principles.

00:08:36.480 Of course, neither America nor any other nation has perfectly lived up to the universal truths

00:08:42.940 of equality, liberty, justice, and government by consent.

00:08:47.720 No nation before America even dared state those truths as the formal basis for its politics.

00:08:54.160 No one has strived harder or done more to achieve them.

00:08:59.300 So here's what's really fascinating to me.

00:09:02.940 As I'm watching this special now, if you happen to be watching Blaze TV and watching the program,

00:09:08.520 they just showed images of us, you know, police hosing down blacks as they march with Martin Luther King.

00:09:17.800 And I thought, what nation of the great nations today would allow that, would allow their press to show the bad side?

00:09:32.640 Well, we've gone so far, all we're showing is the bad side.

00:09:36.840 And no one has any credibility with me and shouldn't with you if they only know one side of the argument.

00:09:44.880 You know, the critical race theory does not present the other side of the argument in any credible way.

00:09:53.060 They present the other side of the argument as, see, that's why they're racist.

00:09:57.980 No, no.

00:10:00.200 We should be having a debate.

00:10:02.340 But if you noticed, we're not having a debate.

00:10:05.160 The debate is over.

00:10:06.960 The debate is over now on everything or so the left thinks.

00:10:10.720 But that is not an American principle.

00:10:14.880 And it's really important.

00:10:19.100 You know, anytime anyone says, don't read that, you should read it.

00:10:23.700 Anytime somebody says, that should be banned, buy it and read it and keep it.

00:10:30.920 I don't trust anyone who says, you shouldn't read that, you shouldn't look into it.

00:10:36.620 There is no inherent evil in education and there's no inherent evil in reading things that a logical, reasonable person who is searching for truth shouldn't read.

00:10:56.560 You need to read all of it, especially when it comes to history and what I like about the 1776 project, which is again coming out tonight at 9 p.m.

00:11:08.420 On blaze TV and then will be released on my social media in segments every day this week until the 4th of July.

00:11:18.220 And I urge you to watch it.

00:11:20.440 The thing that I like about the 1776 commission, which Biden has tried to bury, the media has tried to bury.

00:11:29.120 It is so clear on who we are and the wrongs that we have we have perpetrated.

00:11:42.080 Uh, I wouldn't say got away with because we certainly didn't get away with any anything.

00:11:50.440 And how did those bad things in our history stop? 0.90

00:11:54.620 Listen, the most common charge leveled against the founders and hence against our country itself is that they were hypocrites who didn't believe in their own stated principles. 0.77

00:12:05.660 And therefore, the country they built rests on a lie.

00:12:09.380 This charge is untrue.

00:12:13.540 It's done enormous damage, especially in recent years, with the devastating effect on our civic unity and social fabric.

00:12:22.220 Many Americans labor under the illusion that slavery was somehow a uniquely American evil.

00:12:29.740 It is essential to insist at the outset that the institution is seen in a much broader perspective.

00:12:38.040 It's hard for people brought up in the comforts of modern America in a time when, which the idea that all human beings have involuntable rights, inherent dignity, it's almost taken for granted, to imagine the cruelties and enormities that were endemic in earlier times.

00:12:56.200 It's hard.

00:12:58.200 But the unfortunate fact is the institution of slavery has been more the rule than exception throughout human history.

00:13:07.200 It was the Western world's repudiation of slavery, not just beginning to build at the time of the American Revolution, which marked a dramatic sea change in moral sensibilities.

00:13:21.400 The American founders were living on the cusp of this change in a matter that straddled two worlds.

00:13:28.880 George Washington owned slaves, but he came to detest the practice and wished for a plan adopted for the abolition of it.

00:13:38.920 By the end of his life, he freed all the slaves in his family estate.

00:13:42.540 So it goes into both arguments, but it does in a reasoned way.

00:13:52.960 And I thought it was really important to bring not only the truth of history that you can share with each other and your friends and your family and bite-sized segments.

00:14:05.200 I thought it was important to not only share that, but then to show you the choice before us.

00:14:14.980 Cut five.

00:14:16.320 All the good things we see around us, from the physical infrastructure to our high standards of living to our exceptional freedoms,

00:14:23.840 are direct results of America's unity, stability, and justice.

00:14:29.520 All of which, in turn, rest on the bedrock of our founding principles.

00:14:35.200 Yet today, our country is in danger of throwing this inheritance away.

00:14:39.780 The choice before us now is clear.

00:14:43.100 Will we choose the truths of the Declaration?

00:14:46.900 Or will we fall prey to the false theories that have led too many nations to tyranny?

00:14:53.700 It's our mission, all of us, to restore our national unity by rekindling a brave and honest love for our country,

00:15:03.280 and by raising new generations of citizens who not only know the self-evident truths of our founding,

00:15:10.800 but then act worthy of them.

00:15:13.620 This great project of national renewal depends on true education, not merely training and particular skills,

00:15:22.220 but the formation of citizens.

00:15:25.100 To remain a free people, we must have the knowledge, strength, and virtue of a free people.

00:15:32.280 From families and schools to popular culture and public policy,

00:15:37.160 we must begin teaching our founding principles, and the character necessary to live out these principles.

00:15:43.880 This includes restoring patriotic education that teaches the truth about America.

00:15:49.620 Now, that doesn't mean ignoring the faults in our past,

00:15:53.560 but rather viewing our history clearly and wholly with reverence and love.

00:16:00.900 When I got up this morning and I read the new poll that shows that

00:16:07.720 a majority of Generation Z doesn't believe in capitalism,

00:16:15.680 it's because they haven't been taught what capitalism really is.

00:16:20.540 What we're doing right now is not capitalism.

00:16:23.020 It is crony capitalism, and we are quickly on the path of Chinese capitalism. 0.97

00:16:29.520 That's not capitalism.

00:16:31.160 That's fascism or authoritarianism.

00:16:34.160 We have blended the two together.

00:16:38.140 You can't believe the press anymore.

00:16:40.800 You can't believe the banking system anymore.

00:16:44.180 You can't believe the jury system anymore.

00:16:47.300 You can't believe in things because they've been so twisted and distorted.

00:16:53.560 You don't trust your school because of not just the board of education,

00:16:58.240 but because of the labor unions.

00:17:00.760 The labor unions are full of people that just despise the United States of America.

00:17:08.940 I'm talking about the teachers' unions.

00:17:11.760 Just despise it.

00:17:14.460 So you don't trust your teacher, not because of the teacher,

00:17:18.520 but because of the unions and the universities.

00:17:22.180 You're sending your kids still into universities that might as well be a Uyghur re-education camp. 1.00

00:17:31.180 You don't trust politics because you've seen them lie and lie and lie.

00:17:35.900 But now you can't really even trust the news to hold out those politicians that are doing the wrong thing.

00:17:45.660 It's not going to be solved by anyone, any elected official.

00:17:50.800 It's going to be solved by you and your family.

00:17:54.660 And it is time to plant these principles deep, deep into our children.

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00:20:31.880 I hope I'm wrong on this.

00:20:36.040 I really hope that I'm wrong on this.

00:20:39.560 But there is a problem.

00:20:46.420 There's a problem all over the country when it comes to now feeding animals.

00:20:52.880 Most people just look at meat and food and they see it on the grocery store shelves

00:20:59.120 and they have no idea where it even comes from anymore.

00:21:03.000 Well, it's coming from the heartland.

00:21:04.940 It's coming from all of those flyover states.

00:21:07.300 When you're in the airplane and you look down, you see those big circles.

00:21:10.640 That's an irrigation circle.

00:21:12.400 That is, those circles are how you get water to get the plants to grow.

00:21:19.340 And usually those, those crop circles are something like alfalfa.

00:21:27.500 This is what we feed our cattle. 0.66

00:21:30.300 Well, there is a severe drought here in the Northwest and the Mountain West.

00:21:37.680 A severe drought.

00:21:38.920 I mean, it is becoming like the Dust Bowl.

00:21:42.280 And I hope I'm wrong, but I think you're going to start to see farmers either giving away their cattle and their animals

00:21:51.500 or unfortunately slaughtering them and burying them because there is no grain or no hay to feed them.

00:22:01.300 There's no, there's nobody growing anything because we're in a drought all across the upper part of America.

00:22:11.000 And down in the lower sections, you're having places like Texas and Alabama.

00:22:16.340 They have too much rain and they can't grow it.

00:22:19.720 And please pray for the appropriate amount of rain and that we don't have to do what I fear is coming with the animals.

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00:23:54.520 Well, I think this advertisement is, this approach to the NFL is going to be wildly successful.

00:24:14.160 And I, for one, am proud of the NFL.

00:24:19.040 They've just released some new verbiage for the NFL.

00:24:23.380 Do you have the NFL music?

00:24:24.940 Let me just give it to you.

00:24:27.260 Football. 0.99

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00:24:59.640 Football is strong.

00:25:01.740 Football is freedom.

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00:25:06.540 Football is accepting.

00:25:08.580 Football is everything.

00:25:11.020 Football is for everyone.

00:25:13.380 Oh, that is, this is fantastic.

00:25:18.440 Um, and I, you know, I think the, the NFL diversity director, uh, told out sports, I'm proud of the clear message this commercial sends to the NFL's LGBTQ plus fans.

00:25:32.540 This game is unquestionable.

00:25:34.540 This game is unquestionably for you.

00:25:36.000 I'll be playing that first line over and over in my head all season. 0.99

00:25:40.400 Football is lesbian. 0.99

00:25:42.280 Lesbian. 0.98

00:25:42.720 Lesbian.

00:25:43.420 Okay.

00:25:44.340 All right.

00:25:45.160 Um, I didn't know that the game had sexual preferences. 1.00

00:25:50.980 Uh, actually, football Glenn is known as the most lesbian of balls. 1.00

00:25:55.600 Uh, it's a fact. 1.00

00:26:02.800 Hmm.

00:26:04.040 Hmm.

00:26:05.440 Huh.

00:26:06.220 Okay.

00:26:06.880 All right.

00:26:07.360 Um, you know, I think that, uh, the football fan could be lesbian, straight, queer, uh, you know, non-binary.

00:26:19.780 The football fan can be anything, but football itself is a, football is a game and it should remain that way.

00:26:29.440 I'm just, I'm just thinking, well, you can't say, you can't say football is a game without gay.

00:26:37.360 Um, well, yes, you can't.

00:26:41.620 I forgot.

00:26:42.300 Um, there's no Y in game, Glenn game.

00:26:49.020 Do you think that's a coincidence?

00:26:51.260 No, it is not.

00:26:52.780 They've been planning this forever.

00:26:54.220 I actually do think, especially since it's not spelled anywhere close, you know, you'd have to get rid of the M and the E, get rid of the me in football game, and then add a Y.

00:27:06.300 I, for you, football is for you.

00:27:09.860 Well, you know how they used to spell women, W-O-M-Y-N, and you can do G-A-Y-M-E. 0.99

00:27:15.440 It's a game. 0.96

00:27:17.960 This is so, this is so ridiculous, isn't it? 1.00

00:27:22.060 Oh, it's so dumb. 0.98

00:27:22.880 I was, I was watching, uh, I was on Twitter yesterday, and you know how the Twitter gives you ads, you know, serves me ads based on my algorithm, and apparently my algorithm is telling them I want to see ads about Pride Week from Procter & Gamble. 0.96

00:27:36.360 Or Pride Month, excuse me, about Procter & Gamble.

00:27:39.760 So the, the makers of Tide and Cascade are telling me about love, and they go through this whole thing.

00:27:46.980 And the very end, there's this guy, he's like, you know, I just, I just wish there was a time where we just didn't have to say all this.

00:27:53.140 Yeah, you've arrived.

00:27:54.900 You've arrived in the time, it's here, congratulations, we don't need to be, we don't need to hear every little itty bitty detail of what goes on in your bedroom.

00:28:05.220 I don't care about it, I don't want to know about it, you don't have to tell me about it, the people who make detergent don't have to tell me about it.

00:28:12.560 Just stop telling me about it.

00:28:14.320 You know, may I, may I go a step further? 0.99

00:28:17.780 I have a lot of, you know, I have a lot of gay friends who think that straight sex is icky. 0.98

00:28:22.720 So you know what we don't talk about? 0.99

00:28:25.660 Sex.

00:28:26.720 Okay?

00:28:27.640 We don't.

00:28:28.660 And I think that's, I think that's pretty universal.

00:28:33.280 I don't want to hear about sex.

00:28:35.240 I don't want, I mean, now maybe it's different in the, you know, in the Tom Brady realm, where everybody is a beautiful person.

00:28:46.480 But I've been to America, and that's not the way it generally is.

00:28:52.720 And so I just think we should stop talking about what you're doing in your bedroom.

00:28:57.300 Because like Stu, I not only don't care, I find it icky. 0.98

00:29:04.320 You know, and that could be straight sex. 0.98

00:29:06.660 You know, let me tell you, boy, the wife and I had, we tied one on last night. 0.97

00:29:13.160 I don't want to hear it.

00:29:14.320 I don't want to hear it.

00:29:16.680 Yes, we exist here to try to forget and not picture what you're doing in your bedroom, whether you're straight or gay or whatever.

00:29:25.280 Just stop talking about it.

00:29:26.560 Let's all hope that, I almost just kind of want to forget that's how we reproduce.

00:29:30.660 Let's just forget about it completely.

00:29:32.640 I don't want to hear anything about it.

00:29:34.060 It really is an icky process.

00:29:36.140 I mean, you could go into, this is, wow, really?

00:29:41.120 God had to make it feel really good.

00:29:43.620 Otherwise, everybody would be like, I'm going to do what?

00:29:46.560 No, I don't think so.

00:29:49.800 That's so true.

00:29:51.240 It doesn't make any sense.

00:29:52.560 It's a terrible idea.

00:29:53.600 If it didn't feel good, you wouldn't be doing it.

00:29:56.360 You just wouldn't be doing it.

00:29:57.680 You're like, what are you taking your pants off for?

00:29:59.440 God, stop it.

00:30:00.260 Keep them on.

00:30:00.900 Keep them on.

00:30:01.560 It's hot.

00:30:02.180 People are sweaty.

00:30:03.080 It's smelly.

00:30:03.860 Just keep everything on.

00:30:05.080 Everyone, we bundle up.

00:30:06.500 You know, maybe we've criticized Islamic extremists before, but maybe they've got something on 1.00

00:30:11.200 where you can't see anybody's human body.

00:30:13.440 I mean, there's something to the idea that we all just kind of cover ourselves and can only see eyes.

00:30:19.200 You know, I've walked around the United States of America, been through many malls over the years.

00:30:24.040 In Texas, it's 117 degrees.

00:30:26.280 Everyone's sweaty and wearing really tight things.

00:30:29.200 Just stop.

00:30:29.860 Maybe a tarp.

00:30:31.800 Let's go to the Homer Simpson muumuu thing and just embrace it.

00:30:35.660 It was a good look.

00:30:36.860 I think we should do it.

00:30:38.820 Look, yesterday I told you I was going to be doing interpretive dance on how racist the Constitution is.

00:30:47.640 If you missed yesterday's show, go back for the podcast.

00:30:50.680 In hour three, I read the actual report from the National Archives saying that the the National Archives saying that the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights is confusing and shows our racist history.

00:31:11.680 And their solution is to have interpretive dance happening when you go to try to see the Declaration of Independence.

00:31:20.840 And so I said yesterday, I I'm all for interpretive dance.

00:31:25.720 In fact, I'm going to do one.

00:31:27.520 And the reason why I said that is because you don't even want to think about me doing.

00:31:33.720 You know what I mean? 0.97

00:31:34.740 There's like when my daughter was in ballet, my son and I were like, you know, I think you could slice you could put a piece of sliced toast in that guy's butt cheeks. 0.98

00:31:44.300 You know what I mean?

00:31:44.980 You just you could just put a slice of toast right there and he could hold it the entire dance.

00:31:51.300 Me.

00:31:51.980 You could put an entire toaster oven between my cheeks.

00:31:55.820 You know what I mean?

00:31:56.500 And and so it's not good.

00:31:59.040 It's not good.

00:31:59.860 Nobody wants to hear it.

00:32:01.160 No.

00:32:01.520 Can we move on?

00:32:02.280 Yes.

00:32:02.460 I'm uncomfortable.

00:32:05.160 Jake Tapper.

00:32:07.160 Wow.

00:32:08.400 Has lost 75 percent of his audience since January.

00:32:12.060 I wonder why that is.

00:32:14.400 Wonder why that is.

00:32:17.420 I have the answer.

00:32:18.560 Do you want to hear the answer?

00:32:19.660 Sure.

00:32:21.660 Racism.

00:32:22.160 In other news, you know, some bigots might say it's things like what was said on MSNBC last night.

00:32:34.080 Listen to this.

00:32:35.760 Why do you think we're seeing an uptick in crime happening right now?

00:32:40.260 I think it's a combination of things.

00:32:42.260 And we have to understand that police officers are the backbone patrol, particularly are the backbone of any police department.

00:32:48.440 And this reminds me of back in the day when I was on LAPD, when officers feelings were hurt and they had the term blue flu, where officers openly talked about slow response to radio calls.

00:32:59.240 You can you can break a police chief if response time is low, if you're not clearing crimes, if you're not responding to high priority calls, shootings in progress, murder, robbery.

00:33:10.660 And so officers now we see across these 18,000 police departments are butthurt because, you know, they can't run willy nilly through a police department and abuse with reckless abandon.

00:33:21.540 So they're stepping away from specialized units too cowardly to quit outright the department.

00:33:27.040 But they're stepping away.

00:33:28.480 Wow.

00:33:29.480 Wow. 0.99

00:33:30.180 So they're they're cowardly. 0.99

00:33:31.600 Now, police, they're butthurt because they can't they can't just get away with all their racism. 0.85

00:33:37.720 Could I just remind everyone that Derek Chauvin was never they didn't even bring it up in court?

00:33:49.820 Even the wholly corrupt Keith Ellison didn't say that this was about race because there's no case that that was about race.

00:34:00.740 And yet George Floyd is being held up as the hero that finally turned things around for the bigoted racist cop in in the in the court of law.

00:34:15.960 Race was not brought into this argument.

00:34:20.220 So how is this happening?

00:34:22.760 And by the way, it's not that the police are butthurt.

00:34:26.280 You've beaten the police back.

00:34:29.080 You've beaten them down.

00:34:30.680 I don't know.

00:34:31.420 I might learn a lesson and not put myself into a situation where I'm going to go to jail.

00:34:38.680 I'm going to lose my family.

00:34:40.540 I'm going to lose my reputation.

00:34:43.360 I'm going to be known as a bigot racist throughout all of American history because you have an agenda.

00:34:52.100 That's not butthurt.

00:34:53.540 That's smart.

00:34:55.460 That's smart.

00:34:56.400 That's self-preservation.

00:34:58.440 Yeah.

00:34:58.600 And we went through a study a week or two ago about Black Lives Matter and what has actually happened with it, where they say the study basically said they had saved 300 lives between 2014 and 2019 for of potential police shootings.

00:35:15.180 Unfortunately, they caused between one and six thousand murders by civilians against other civilians.

00:35:21.440 So many more black lives were lost because of Black Lives Matter than were saved. 0.97

00:35:26.340 But in there, they talk about the effect, what they call the Ferguson effect, which is in some ways seemingly what she's trying to allude to here.

00:35:34.960 And the idea is basically that police get sick of being called genocidal maniacs every Tuesday and decide, hey, I'm going to, you know, look, unless I really have to jump into something, I'm not going to jump into it.

00:35:48.960 Because every time we jump into something, we get accused of these terrible things and our lives get destroyed when we're trying to help people.

00:35:55.240 So they don't jump in unless it's a super serious crime.

00:35:59.040 So we're seeing signals of this all around the country where murders and rapes and the most serious of crimes are going way, way up, while many property crimes are not because the police are hesitant when they know maybe a life might not be on the line to jump into any of these situations.

00:36:17.260 Because they don't want to expose themselves to a situation that's going to escalate out of control.

00:36:23.900 So they're jumping into less of fewer of these situations because of that.

00:36:28.940 That's a huge problem.

00:36:30.600 You know, I mean, and what happens when you vilify an entire class of people that are trying to help you, results are usually negative.

00:36:38.460 And we're seeing that the results all around the country are really negative.

00:36:42.740 It's not because they're cowards.

00:36:43.960 It's because they're intelligent.

00:36:45.160 And by the way, police, I think it was in Portland over the weekend, had to come out and beg no violence, no violence.

00:36:54.880 The person that was shot was white, no violence, no violence, no violence.

00:36:59.100 Nobody cared about what happened.

00:37:01.660 They didn't say, hey, well, this shooting happened and it was justified.

00:37:06.840 They didn't care.

00:37:07.920 They only cared what color the person was.

00:37:12.020 That's a sign of a deep, deep problem.

00:37:14.840 By the way, Rudy Giuliani and Alan Dershowitz in our number three today.

00:37:20.060 You don't want to miss any of today's show.

00:37:23.600 After decades of leftist ideology desperately working to destroy everything we have held true and dear,

00:37:32.260 our culture is a smoldering shell of what it has been.

00:37:36.740 Conservatives, you cannot give up and you can't lose the the will to fight against the woke mob.

00:37:46.460 Our nation.

00:37:48.800 Our fate of our children all stand on a razor sharp edge.

00:37:54.720 So what are we going to do?

00:37:55.760 Well, we first of all have to start telling the stories, and that's why I'm really, really proud to recommend the Tuttle Twins book.

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00:38:10.760 But I'm talking about for little kids.

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00:38:16.100 But I want you to you've got to start reading to your children and you've got to start young.

00:38:22.920 These are fantastic books for children that teach them about American history, what freedom really is.

00:38:30.620 There's no way that you can get through what's happening in school and have your kids come unscathed.

00:38:39.720 You must prepare them and plant this deep into their little souls.

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00:39:17.400 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:39:19.900 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:39:29.540 Did you see that California is banning travel to several states now?

00:39:37.520 They just added Florida.

00:39:38.680 And they're they're not they're not allowing any of the federal workers or the state workers to go to, I think, 12 different states.

00:39:50.000 Well, it's not because of covid.

00:39:53.060 It's because you might catch racism there.

00:39:55.500 These are the these are the states that are are arguing about bathrooms and are putting in, you know, rules that say, hey, guys can't use bathrooms that women use. 0.88

00:40:07.600 You know, it's interesting, Glenn, that every single possibility they have to to use the Commerce Clause to block whatever they want in any state they do.

00:40:18.340 Is this not a really clear violation of the Commerce Clause where you're preventing?

00:40:26.180 Oh, in your interstate business, you're not even allowing your employees to travel to other states like that's that could possibly be OK.

00:40:33.300 Yeah.

00:40:34.900 Well, it's not in any sane world, but we left that one a long time ago.

00:40:40.460 So good luck with that.

00:40:42.920 But that is this is what things like the Commerce Clause was supposed to protect it.

00:40:49.320 And it was flipped on its head.

00:40:51.260 The the United States was not supposed to have the the power and the governments are not supposed to have the kind of power to do this.

00:41:02.140 Thank you so much, Hillary.

00:41:03.380 I want to talk to you a little bit about American financing.

00:41:05.440 This is something that is helped Stu just recently.

00:41:08.500 He was trying to buy a house and and went to American financing and they got him a great deal.

00:41:14.500 What's your insurance or your insurance?

00:41:16.280 What's your your payment every month?

00:41:18.600 I totally can just tell you the exact percentage rate I got.

00:41:23.640 I know it's very low.

00:41:24.940 It was under.

00:41:25.960 I thought you said it was in the twos.

00:41:27.900 Yeah, it was in the three.

00:41:28.780 Yeah, I thought it was under three.

00:41:30.200 It was under three.

00:41:31.060 I just can't remember what it was exactly.

00:41:32.440 But it was really freaking low.

00:41:33.400 Like the sort of interest rate that you'd think is like a misprint.

00:41:38.580 Like it's not even real.

00:41:40.180 Come on.

00:41:40.500 That's not even real that that is actually happening now.

00:41:43.500 And it's not going to last forever.

00:41:44.860 We're already seeing all the inflation kind of kicking in.

00:41:47.160 Rates are already starting to inch up.

00:41:49.000 If you want to refinance or buy a home, now is the time to make sure that you lock in the best rate possible.

00:41:56.420 Yeah, I know people that are starting to rent out their home and buy a second home because renting is becoming so expensive and their house is worth so much more money.

00:42:07.360 Please don't please understand.

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00:42:20.580 What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment.

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00:42:53.420 This is the Glenn Beck Program. 1.00

00:42:58.140 Well, hello, you sick, twisted freak. 1.00

00:43:02.260 It is Tuesday and I've never I've done this once before. 0.98

00:43:07.380 I've had a guest back three times in my 45 years of broadcast.

00:43:12.700 The last time I did this was Marcus Luttrell when he came back before he had written Lone Survivor.

00:43:20.020 I find the guest that we have on today.

00:43:23.840 We had him on yesterday.

00:43:25.580 I find him fascinating because I'm guessing I don't even know.

00:43:31.080 I don't care.

00:43:31.720 I'm guessing we don't agree on a lot of things political, but he is one of the only doctors that I have heard in the media that isn't making this about politics.

00:43:42.900 In fact, when he's talking about COVID and the vaccine and everything else, he's saying, stop talking about politics.

00:43:49.920 Let's start talking about the truth and facts.

00:43:53.880 I want to talk to him.

00:43:55.900 He is the inventor of M-R-N-A vaccine technology. 0.92

00:44:00.520 I well, I'm going to ask him to talk down because the little people don't really know what M-R-N-A vaccine technology is, you know, so but I do.

00:44:15.580 I, of course, don't, you know, just trying to bring every everybody along.

00:44:20.680 So I'll pretend, wink, wink, that I don't know anything about this and have him explain the history and and what it means and the things that we're starting to do, the ethics behind some of the things that we're doing.

00:44:38.180 What does it mean for our future?

00:44:40.800 Dr. Robert Malone joins us in 60 seconds.

00:44:47.180 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:44:48.820 And still, you're all up on our M-R-N-A on that technology, right?

00:44:56.860 Yeah, I can almost always say it in the right order.

00:44:59.200 So, yeah, M-R-N-A technology. 1.00

00:45:01.620 Yeah.

00:45:02.360 Yeah.

00:45:02.920 Yeah.

00:45:03.420 That's great.

00:45:04.420 That's great.

00:45:05.440 Yeah.

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00:46:20.120 The inventor of mRNA vaccine technology, Robert Malone, is joining us again today.

00:46:29.180 Hello, doctor.

00:46:31.000 Hi, Glenn.

00:46:32.260 Thanks for that lead in.

00:46:35.240 And it's not talking down.

00:46:36.760 I'd like to talk, you know, one of our greatest physicists ever, Richard Feynman, once made the point that if you can't make complicated stuff simple, then you don't really understand it.

00:46:48.380 So I live, you know, I live here in central Virginia, and I have plenty of folks that are just average people.

00:46:56.560 A lot of them never even travel on a plane.

00:46:58.200 And I like to say I think I can talk to everybody.

00:47:03.700 I don't have to talk down to them.

00:47:05.620 So let's go.

00:47:06.500 Let's talk about the tech.

00:47:07.680 Okay.

00:47:08.020 So tell me what mRNA technology even is.

00:47:14.000 And can you start at the beginning?

00:47:16.420 Because I understood that it was originally developed or originally thought of by a black woman who could not get anybody to pay attention until maybe some Germans or she was over in Germany.

00:47:28.640 And some Americans caught interest and said, hey, I think you have something here.

00:47:34.480 Is that true?

00:47:35.780 And where do you come in?

00:47:37.660 I think you may be talking about Katie Carrico, and she's Hungarian.

00:47:43.180 And actually, I had folks write to me that she's actually Hungarian Secret Service originally. 0.94

00:47:49.880 So I actually mentored Katie in the mid-90s, and her first paper on RNA cites me in the acknowledgement.

00:47:57.880 So, you know, I spoke about this on the high wire at length, and I'm not interested in embarrassing anybody.

00:48:11.520 It is what it is.

00:48:12.940 But I was doing this the full decade before she was, and that's just the way things are.

00:48:18.320 Sorry.

00:48:19.520 Okay.

00:48:20.160 So tell me what it is now.

00:48:21.980 Yeah, good.

00:48:23.520 Let's talk about the tech.

00:48:26.300 So first thing you've got to understand is that in biology, we have this thing called the central dogma.

00:48:32.780 And what it is is that DNA makes RNA, RNA makes protein, really simple stuff.

00:48:37.840 DNA, for most of us, is what our genes are, where the information is coded.

00:48:43.760 RNA is the thing that transfers that message out to the machinery that turns it into protein.

00:48:50.280 So you can almost think of the RNA as a copy of code that's sitting on a DNA hard drive.

00:48:57.200 I think most of us can get that.

00:48:59.380 So there's this thing that goes from the inside, the inner part of the cell, the nucleus, where the DNA is.

00:49:05.100 And it goes out into the cytoplasm, that's the outer part of the cell, where the protein translation machinery is.

00:49:11.020 And it is a message.

00:49:12.860 It's a message that goes from central command out to the perimeter.

00:49:20.120 And it's made of RNA.

00:49:22.000 So we call it messenger RNA.

00:49:24.340 So it's mRNA is the short acronym.

00:49:26.560 Does that make sense?

00:49:28.020 Pretty simple stuff.

00:49:28.880 Yes.

00:49:28.960 Okay, so that's where all this starts from.

00:49:32.600 And the core idea behind this, you know, one of the ahas that led to this whole cascade of the inventions back in the late 80s, was that if, now I was working in a gene therapy lab, perhaps the leading gene therapy lab in the world at the Salk Institute at the time.

00:49:50.200 And the aha was, oh, people are, it's really difficult to get genes all the way into the nucleus, the center part, because we've got a lot of barriers.

00:49:59.900 It's like a castle with a bunch of fortifications.

00:50:04.160 And maybe for a reason, right?

00:50:08.260 Yeah, for a good reason, right?

00:50:09.740 Because we don't want outside genetic material getting into our genes, duh.

00:50:13.980 Right?

00:50:14.360 So it's hard to get DNA and viruses and all kinds of stuff all the way in.

00:50:18.880 And so the logic was, oh, this message part, it doesn't stick around very long.

00:50:25.380 And all you've got to do is get it through the first barrier, the cytoplasmic membrane.

00:50:29.620 So that's the first, you know, barricade around the castle.

00:50:33.980 You don't have to get all the way through the drawbridge and everything else.

00:50:37.320 So that is the core idea.

00:50:40.700 Deliver RNA rather than trying to do DNA or viruses to get all the way into the nucleus.

00:50:47.060 Just get it into the cytoplasm.

00:50:49.340 And by the way, the RNA gets cut up pretty fast.

00:50:52.920 Any RNA, any message, it makes sense, you know, that it's like an auto-destruct on your email.

00:50:58.980 The email is coming from the central server.

00:51:01.260 And imagine that it goes out, it does its thing, and then it automatically gets cut up.

00:51:05.780 So that's the idea.

00:51:06.740 It makes for a gene therapy approach that's more like a drug because one of the problems with gene therapy is that if you get it working good and you get your genes into somebody's cells, there's kind of no going back.

00:51:20.940 Like, if for some reason there's a problem, like, your only solution is you're going to have to cut out the cells, right?

00:51:27.160 And if the cells are all over your body, that's not going to happen.

00:51:30.220 So there's some big fundamental problems with the core idea of gene therapy, as was originally thought about in the 1970s.

00:51:38.460 It was kind of a little bit naive.

00:51:39.940 And one of the big problems that was discovered back in 88 by a postdoc that was kind of shepherding me named Dan St. Louis, he was also a true believer, like I was, about gene therapy.

00:51:53.780 And he was working with a kind of a virus called a retrovirus.

00:51:57.460 This is the kind that is HIV, for instance, but it wasn't HIV.

00:52:01.340 And he was using that to put genes into mouse cells and then putting those cells back into mice.

00:52:05.800 And then the genes would get turned off for some reason.

00:52:08.980 They would stop making protein.

00:52:11.040 And this was a, you know, major head scratcher.

00:52:14.920 And all kinds of elaborate theories came out.

00:52:18.160 And I, being the half-trained medical student that had come from a vaccine and AIDS lab at UC Davis, I said, aha, I know what it is. 0.75

00:52:27.660 It's that the mouse is generating an immune response against the protein.

00:52:31.540 And, in fact, that was the case, which was, you know, suddenly gene therapy had a major problem.

00:52:38.560 But what I did was say, oh, well, okay, let's make lemonade out of lemons.

00:52:44.600 What we can do is use gene therapy technology for making vaccines.

00:52:48.880 And so the truth is, the adenoviral vectors, the DNA viruses that are the J&J and the AstraZeneca vaccines, that technology also came out of that same lab and that same insight.

00:53:05.360 So, really, all of these are the advectored products that we have here in the States.

00:53:13.440 We called the Johnson & Johnson vaccine and the two RNA vaccines all trace their roots back to the Salk Institute in the late 80s.

00:53:20.860 So, when somebody says, you know, this has never been tried before with a vaccine like this, and you don't know what this is going to mean down the road and how it's going to affect, you know, your cells and DNA, is any of that true?

00:53:41.240 It is true that we don't know what the long-term effects are going to be.

00:53:47.320 And it's not just the technology and the specific chemicals that are being used for wrapping the RNA in its little FedEx package.

00:53:57.900 It's also, we call it the payload, the thing that's expressed, the protein.

00:54:03.880 In this case, it's the spike protein.

00:54:05.820 Okay, so don't, a lot of these side effects, I suspect strongly, are a consequence of what is being produced.

00:54:14.240 And spike wasn't the only option.

00:54:16.220 It was just kind of the easy option that was chosen at first.

00:54:19.780 And I suspect in the next generations, we're going to see very different things than biologically active spike.

00:54:25.600 We'll see.

00:54:26.800 But you're absolutely right.

00:54:29.000 We can't know what the long-term effects are unless we give enough time to assess those.

00:54:35.560 So because of the vaccine, you want two years after a lot of people have been vaccinated to make sure.

00:54:42.100 But is that different than any other, is that different than any other vaccine or anything?

00:54:48.580 I mean, that's why we have drug testing and the drug testing goes on for a while.

00:54:52.440 So we could expect that there might be some long-term things.

00:54:57.100 One of the things that's different about, and remember, both the mRNA and the adenoviral vector are very similar at their core.

00:55:12.340 They're both putting foreign genes into your cells.

00:55:15.300 And then they're making your cells become little vaccine manufacturing factories.

00:55:20.780 That's how this is working.

00:55:22.340 The thing is that the FDA has a checklist for vaccines.

00:55:29.480 And they say, oh, you have to do these things, and you don't have to do these things.

00:55:32.560 Like, for instance, with regular vaccines, you don't do reproductive toxicology, and you don't look at toxicated genes.

00:55:39.400 And that's just the way, because time has shown that regular vaccines don't have those kinds of problems.

00:55:46.260 With gene therapies, you do have to have that stuff.

00:55:50.320 With gene therapies, you've got to do a lot more rigorous characterization,

00:55:53.460 and you have to show how long the protein is being made, in what cells, and how it's distributed throughout the body.

00:56:02.380 At what level are you making the protein?

00:56:05.120 In their rush, I don't know how else to say it.

00:56:09.440 The FDA decided, you know, I think this was a case of people just kind of not thinking in the moment.

00:56:15.380 They decided to apply the vaccines checklist.

00:56:17.940 They didn't apply the gene therapy checklist.

00:56:20.160 And so we don't actually have the data to say how much protein is being made by your cells with each of these vaccines for how long and what cells.

00:56:31.440 And so this gives rise to a lot of fear, and people talk about, you know, are we expressing spike in ovaries and all that?

00:56:39.500 We don't have data showing that's true, but we don't have data showing it's not true.

00:56:43.460 And the thing here is that the rules of the road, like I might have said before in one of our earlier, it's the French judicial system.

00:56:52.940 The way it works with drugs and vaccines is you have to prove that they're safe.

00:56:58.760 They're assumed to be not safe until you prove that they are.

00:57:02.800 It's not the other way around.

00:57:04.200 And the fact that we don't have this information gives rise to a lot of concern on the part of people, and I think it's completely valid. 0.92

00:57:13.500 And as if that wasn't bad enough, the FDA decided in this stage where they're still experimental, but we're giving them to everybody.

00:57:21.940 They were trying to insist on everybody taking them, including all the college students.

00:57:27.720 They didn't set up a structure to carefully track adverse events and how effective things are in the field.

00:57:38.720 They did their phase three studies, but those are limited, and often they aren't very predictive of how things go once you're out in the real world.

00:57:45.820 And they decided not to do that at the time, and now they're trying to kind of backfill and find some way to do it, but they didn't gather the data.

00:57:56.840 We're talking to Dr. Robert Malone.

00:57:59.160 He is the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology.

00:58:04.520 We'll continue our conversation.

00:58:05.980 I want to talk to him a little bit about the ethics of what is happening now beyond this technology and what we're doing.

00:58:15.760 We seem to be on a very reckless path, and it concerns me, and I'd like to hear his opinion on it.

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01:00:22.920 We're back with Dr. Robert Malone, and I want to talk to you about some of the things that

01:00:30.920 we are now doing in medicine and more so in technology that scare me.

01:00:39.320 I mean, we are changing people's lives just with the technology of the iPhone and the iPad

01:00:47.800 and all of that.

01:00:48.720 And we've never done a long-term experiment on this.

01:00:51.840 And nothing that I can think of in human history has come on this fast and been this pervasive.

01:01:01.700 And we have no effect, no idea of the effect on our children alone.

01:01:06.960 And that's just in tech on one thing.

01:01:11.180 We have AI coming in.

01:01:13.140 But I heard something yesterday.

01:01:15.140 This is a bioethicist.

01:01:16.700 He was talking to, he is a meat eater, but he was talking about how we can get people

01:01:26.840 to stop eating meat because of global warming.

01:01:30.720 Do you have that from last week, the bioethicist talking to the anti-meat scientists?

01:01:37.680 He was talking about how we can gene splice, and when we gene splice, we're going to be

01:01:47.220 able to get people to not be able to tolerate meat.

01:01:53.140 Doctor, I want to get you on to talk about, is there a line, and do we have any idea what

01:02:02.220 we're fooling with?

01:02:03.140 Okay, so you're asking the question about genetically modified organisms and specifically

01:02:11.600 designing them to modify human behavior. 0.94

01:02:14.480 Is that dumb and getting it right? 0.99

01:02:15.840 Yeah. 1.00

01:02:17.040 Yeah.

01:02:17.600 I've never heard of this before.

01:02:18.780 This is bizarre.

01:02:21.720 What kind of logic is this?

01:02:25.240 I personally, I don't eat meat.

01:02:27.360 There's a variety of reasons, health being one of them.

01:02:29.980 But I don't try to tell anybody else not to eat meat.

01:02:34.200 I generally don't even disclose it.

01:02:37.860 Again, I'm firmly in the camp of your right to autonomy and decision making.

01:02:46.020 And this idea of social engineering, I think is what you're kind of touching on.

01:02:50.120 And it's also what we're dealing with with this Trusted News Initiative.

01:02:53.840 You and I discussed the other day, we started really going into Orwell's version, Orwell's

01:03:01.920 warning to us about a new authoritarian world in which language is used to manipulate thought,

01:03:09.500 et cetera.

01:03:09.820 I think that a lot of this is at the core of the conservative angst and unease about politically

01:03:20.220 correct speech and a lot of these things that strike as attempts at social engineering.

01:03:26.560 And if I'm reading that correctly, this is an issue that cuts across the entire space, liberal, libertarian, and conservative.

01:03:41.100 I think that there are a lot of people that are really uncomfortable with what's going on in terms of the idea of social engineering.

01:03:50.220 Let's pick this up in just a couple of minutes.

01:03:53.000 Let me take a quick network break back with Dr. Robert Malone.

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01:05:24.100 Coming up in half an hour, Rudy Giuliani and Alan Dershowitz to talk about what's just happened to Rudy Giuliani.

01:05:43.600 And it's never happened before.

01:05:45.460 And it should concern people a great deal.

01:05:49.020 Um, and I'll let Alan and, uh, Rudy explain it.

01:05:54.220 Um, it is, it's, it could affect all of us.

01:05:58.420 If you don't like the client, you don't go after the attorney.

01:06:02.960 Um, and, uh, it's never been done before.

01:06:06.220 In fact, the head of the NL, uh, the, um, uh, ACLU in New York who hates Rudy Giuliani just joined the team.

01:06:14.840 Um, to push back on this because he said, this is one of the biggest violation of rights.

01:06:20.480 And if we go down here and allow this to stand, uh, we're in, in, in big, big legal trouble in the future.

01:06:28.780 Each of us are.

01:06:29.540 So we're going to talk about that coming up in about half an hour, uh, from now.

01:06:33.560 So right now we're talking to Dr. Robert Malone and, um, I, I want to play this audio of the bioethicist, um, for you, doctor.

01:06:42.220 So you can hear what he's talking about inserting and, and making us repel, um, meat.

01:06:51.680 Listen to this.

01:06:52.640 So I'll give two examples.

01:06:54.100 So one is that, uh, people eat too much meat, right?

01:06:57.820 And if they were to cut down on their consumption on meat, then they would, uh, it would actually really help the planet.

01:07:04.240 Uh, but people are not willing to give up meat.

01:07:06.640 Yeah.

01:07:06.800 You know, some people will be willing to, but other people, they may be willing to, but they sort of, they have a weakness of will.

01:07:12.580 They say, wow, this, this steak is just too juicy.

01:07:14.860 I can't do it.

01:07:15.400 I'm one of those, by the way.

01:07:16.780 So, you know, but so here's a thought, right?

01:07:19.680 So it turns out that we know a lot about, so there, we have these intolerance to, uh, so I, for example, I have milk intolerance.

01:07:27.000 There's some, uh, and there, some people are intolerant to crayfish.

01:07:30.540 So possibly we can use human engineering to make it the case that we're intolerant to certain kinds of meat, to certain kinds of bovine, uh, bovine proteins.

01:07:39.400 And there's actually analogs of this in life.

01:07:41.560 There's this thing called the long star tick, where if it bites you, you will become allergic to meat.

01:07:46.840 Uh, I can sort of describe the mechanism.

01:07:48.660 So that's something that we can do through human engineering.

01:07:51.300 We can kind of, uh, possibly address really big world problems through human engineering.

01:07:57.000 Isn't that, shouldn't that be terrifying?

01:08:01.380 That's a mic drop moment.

01:08:03.260 Yeah, that, that's clearly crossing the line.

01:08:05.720 Engineering humans is the key.

01:08:07.340 You didn't mention that part before.

01:08:09.340 So, so he's talking about engineering you and me, um, not engineering the cow.

01:08:15.780 Uh, that's, that's where I was going to say, um, well, I think the core of what you're talking about.

01:08:23.740 Is, uh, does the rights of the society trump the rights of the individual, right?

01:08:31.220 Do the ends justify the means?

01:08:33.280 And we already settled that.

01:08:34.540 We had the Nuremberg trials, right?

01:08:36.040 We said, no.

01:08:36.800 And here in the States, and I think all of your listeners and are aligned with me on this, we're a free society of free people that have free will to make their own decisions.

01:08:47.980 And, uh, this, this, I, I, I, I hope that the speaker was saying this in jest just to illustrate a point because the idea of engineering humans, uh, number one, it's, it's naive.

01:09:03.640 As somebody who's been in the gene therapy space for a long time, we can talk about these fancy ideas, but implementing them turns out to be wicked hard for the very reason we started talking about that.

01:09:15.060 You know, there are all kinds of barriers to getting stuff into our DNA.

01:09:19.300 It's hard to do.

01:09:20.540 What concerns me is it, it feels like, uh, some scientists are now like, yeah, yeah.

01:09:31.800 Eugenics didn't work, but the idea was good. 1.00

01:09:35.240 And we're just going down the same road with new technology, uh, from, you know, 1900 to 1940.

01:09:44.360 Yeah, no.

01:09:45.360 And this is, I suspect this is always going to be the case.

01:09:48.120 I can tell you that in, in this, in among my peers, there are always those who feel like if we can do it, we should do it.

01:09:57.040 And, and it's often real hard to check those people.

01:10:01.200 I mean, this gets, this is the same kind of issue as the gain of function mutation research.

01:10:07.100 That's the, at the core of the controversy about the origin of this virus.

01:10:11.340 There are people in my space, you know, in my contact list that are kind of wired to say, um, I'm really smart.

01:10:22.720 And if I can do this, I should be allowed to do it.

01:10:25.980 And those people are really hard to control.

01:10:28.960 Um, but they're out there and they will always be out there.

01:10:31.720 And somehow the rest of us got to put a clamp on them and make it clear that that's not okay, but it's not easy to do.

01:10:37.840 Well, it's, it's not easy to do.

01:10:41.400 And it feels like medicine in some way is going off the rails.

01:10:45.480 I know, uh, the AMA just said that they're going to start now, including critical race theory in medicine.

01:10:52.420 And I thought that critical race theory, like it, don't like it.

01:10:56.800 That's political.

01:10:58.480 We cannot put political into medicine.

01:11:02.480 So, yeah, the assumption that the American Medical Association represents most physicians in the United States is false.

01:11:09.500 Uh, not, not only by numbers, but also by logic.

01:11:13.140 So please don't paint us all with that brush.

01:11:15.440 Just because a bunch of folks sitting in a ivory tower in Chicago have to say that.

01:11:21.100 Um, a lot of us find the AMA has led us down the garden path to where our lives are controlled by accountants and, and people with MBAs.

01:11:30.180 Uh, they, they, they kind of sold us out.

01:11:32.460 So, uh, you know, I don't know that medicine, you're right.

01:11:35.520 Medicine today is not what I signed up for when I went into medical school.

01:11:40.540 Uh, and a lot of my colleagues are really disillusioned with it, but, um, and that's a, that's a, that's a bigger, we're, we're facing, these are the kind of things that keep me up at night.

01:11:54.380 Um, we're facing times that are happening, that are coming at us so fast and it doesn't seem like, for instance, I have a daughter who, um, has a cerebral palsy and she had horrible, horrible seizures.

01:12:09.080 She was having them all the time and she just had this miraculous brain surgery.

01:12:14.880 She hasn't had a seizure since January.

01:12:17.580 That's she's 31 or 32 years old.

01:12:21.260 That's, that is a miracle.

01:12:23.440 And I know that Elon Musk is developing what's called neuro link.

01:12:28.860 And his idea is that you'll be able to, you know, if you have strokes, which she had, uh, it will be able to, um, jump, uh, over any of the scarring or anything else.

01:12:42.740 And I, I think this is fantastic, but I also see what it could become.

01:12:49.640 And I don't know where the line is.

01:12:52.480 Does anybody, is anybody talking about these things?

01:12:56.280 You're right to be wary because the history is that when, when every one of these breakthroughs always comes with a good side and a bad side.

01:13:06.240 And there's always military applications.

01:13:09.820 There's always these kinds of control applications.

01:13:13.740 And, uh, and there's always folks that are willing to exploit it, particularly if they can make a buck.

01:13:20.560 And, um, I, it's, it, this is the battle that we are going to have to wage forever.

01:13:26.340 But is there anybody in your business leading that battle?

01:13:35.380 That's a good question.

01:13:36.660 Um, is there, I'm not, there must be, uh, institutes and think tanks that are, I can't imagine there isn't, but the field of bioethics seems to be often fairly focused on, on just the pragmatic parts of how do we do a clinical trial?

01:13:55.700 And, and, and, you know, develop drugs and stuff like that.

01:13:58.660 And, and not on these big picture issues.

01:14:01.440 These are more psychology and social sociology kind of in, in, um, in big think tank, right?

01:14:09.660 Rand Institute kind of questions you're asking.

01:14:12.060 And I, I, I hope that there are folks out there, but they're not in my world.

01:14:16.420 My world, people tend to be pretty focused on the mission.

01:14:20.480 And, uh, you know, how do we protect the warfighter?

01:14:23.760 Or how do we, uh, respond to bio threats? 0.90

01:14:26.920 I mean, the thing that has my world spooked is these new recombinant technologies like, uh, CRISPR-Cas9 that, that, you know, in the, and garage biology, you can engineer some wicked, nasty stuff these days in your garage.

01:14:42.340 And that's, that's, that's in a way that you didn't used to be able to, and that's what Scott.

01:14:49.020 Could you explain, most people don't, don't even know what CRISPR is.

01:14:53.640 Can, can you explain that quickly?

01:14:55.820 Not very well.

01:14:56.760 I don't know it.

01:14:57.480 I don't practice it.

01:14:58.440 It's a new technology that allows very precise recombination, which is to say, insertion of new genetic material in place of existing genetic material.

01:15:10.020 And it makes it kind of child's play.

01:15:12.200 It used to be really hard.

01:15:13.540 And now by use of these sequences that are found in some, uh, prokaryotic, uh, bug, uh, microbial systems, you're able to circumvent a lot of the old kind of more kludgy stuff and just make genetic swaps wherever you want.

01:15:31.600 And that's complimented by the fact that you can, I mean, I could, I could write out a new gene that I want right now on my computer and send it off to a shop in the U S or China.

01:15:41.620 And they would send me back a package with that gene synthesized.

01:15:45.260 It's that trivial.

01:15:46.680 And this is a technology that now allows you to take that and drop it into, you know, your favorite genome.

01:15:54.340 It's not, it's not yet, um, uh, so efficient that the, the problem with all of this.

01:16:01.600 This for humans, for big, you know, animals to get it into all of your cells, we're not there yet.

01:16:07.740 We're a long, long way from that, but to do it in one cell, like, like, or modify a virus or modify a bacteria, um, that's now trivial.

01:16:18.920 And that's, that's kind of the, the thing about the argument that just to bring it home that SARS-CoV-2, some people say, well, there's no footprint of classic genetic engineering.

01:16:30.300 Well, with, with CRISPR-Cas9, there are no footprints.

01:16:35.280 It just goes in clean.

01:16:37.360 So that, that, that argument, you know, we can't, it, it changes everything because you can't track stuff in the same way.

01:16:45.780 Um, and it becomes, uh, pretty easy to do stuff.

01:16:50.080 So that's, that's a little spooky, right?

01:16:53.000 Yeah, we are, we're, we're entering a whole new world, just a whole new world.

01:16:58.680 Dr. Robert Malone, thank you for spending the time, uh, over the last three days being on in the program.

01:17:04.880 I find you, thank you.

01:17:06.360 I find you really refreshing that you haven't brought politics into any of it.

01:17:11.240 Just reason and common sense.

01:17:13.700 Thank you so much.

01:17:14.620 God bless.

01:17:15.400 My pleasure.

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01:18:53.420 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:18:55.880 Tucker Carlson said last night that the NSA is spying on him and reading confidential texts

01:19:04.380 and emails in order to try to get his, take his show off the air.

01:19:08.620 Um, that is quite a charge.

01:19:11.340 He says that he got this information from a whistleblower from inside the federal government and he informed

01:19:17.940 Carlson, the NSA was monitoring his online communications.

01:19:21.740 He said, normally he'd be skeptical of this claim.

01:19:25.120 The whistleblower reportedly repeated back to him information about a story he was working on

01:19:30.780 that could have only been gathered through Carlson's private texts and emails.

01:19:36.420 Um, we're going to follow up on this story.

01:19:39.080 Talk to Cheryl Atkinson about it.

01:19:40.740 Um, I, I am saddened to say, I believe that.

01:19:46.320 Um, and I would say the same thing if, if, uh, Jake Tapper or even Cuomo had come out and said

01:19:56.220 that the NSA is doing this, I would like to know more, but I would support them in their right to

01:20:04.040 not have the NSA spy on him.

01:20:07.840 They're making this into yet another conspiracy theory, which is weird because the conspiracy

01:20:14.780 theories, uh, seem to always end up correct.

01:20:18.220 At least lately.

01:20:19.860 Um, let me, uh, let me bring you up to speed on what's happening with Rudy Giuliani.

01:20:25.380 Um, because Rudy Giuliani is going to join us here in just a few minutes.

01:20:29.300 And so is Alan Dershowitz.

01:20:31.520 And I, I want them both to weigh in because this is not just about Rudy Giuliani.

01:20:36.780 This is about your attorney.

01:20:40.560 Um, he's the, he was the president's attorney.

01:20:43.260 Now this doesn't go with what, what was her name?

01:20:45.880 The woman that had all the credibility in the world up until about 10 minutes into, uh, the, uh, 0.96

01:20:53.880 election stuff.

01:20:54.700 What was her name?

01:20:55.300 Sydney.

01:20:57.620 Uh, yeah.

01:20:58.880 Sydney Powell.

01:21:00.200 You know what I'm saying?

01:21:01.060 Yeah.

01:21:01.540 Sydney Powell.

01:21:02.560 Um, and, uh, this is not the same with her.

01:21:07.620 Um, Rudy Giuliani did not make those claims.

01:21:10.500 He says anything that he had, he had a source on that told him that these things were going

01:21:18.080 on.

01:21:18.500 And he was saying, we have to look into them.

01:21:21.100 Um, and if, you know, if, if your client lies to an attorney, um, you know, the, what

01:21:29.900 is the attorney going to do if the attorney has false information and he knowingly presents

01:21:37.880 it, then he's in trouble.

01:21:40.400 But Rudy Giuliani says, that's not what happened.

01:21:43.660 I wasn't knowingly putting false, uh, evidence out there.

01:21:48.560 This is really dangerous for any time you might be in trouble.

01:21:53.840 Because if your attorney is out of step with political correctness and he can go to jail

01:22:02.680 because they don't like you, uh, we live in, we no longer live in the United States of

01:22:10.020 America.

01:22:10.960 And Rudy Giuliani pretty much said that, uh, a couple of days ago, this is not the United

01:22:16.300 States of America.

01:22:17.440 And even the very liberal, uh, uh, founder of ACLU in New York is joining this case now

01:22:25.460 and says, this is an outrage.

01:22:27.160 And he really does not like Rudy.

01:22:29.740 Thank you very much.

01:22:31.080 Uh, Hillary, as a Glenn, uh, sits down and gets ready for one more exciting hour of magical 1.00

01:22:36.900 radio about to happen here in front of your eyes.

01:22:40.400 It is, it really is magical, isn't it?

01:22:43.140 Yeah.

01:22:43.580 Yeah.

01:22:43.880 What happens?

01:22:44.860 I mean, I'm so glad that it's like the magic kingdom where you don't see behind the scenes

01:22:51.000 because it would hurt the magic.

01:22:52.980 By the way, Glenn, uh, interesting.

01:22:54.740 They've got, uh, today we've got Rudy Giuliani coming up.

01:22:57.260 We've got, uh, Alan Dershowitz coming up this hour.

01:22:59.780 And then after this, if you're on the, if you're on the premier network feed, uh, you've

01:23:04.100 got Clay and Buck who just started, uh, doing the show in Rush Limbaugh's time slot and they

01:23:08.480 have the president on today as their first guest.

01:23:11.240 Uh, so that's right.

01:23:12.580 If you happen to be in this particular, uh, network right now, we're listening to this

01:23:16.460 network right now.

01:23:17.100 You've got a heck of a day of programming in front of you, uh, as, uh, three really big

01:23:22.220 guests here coming up in the next hour or two.

01:23:23.960 Have you listened, have you had the chance to listen to them yet?

01:23:28.120 A little bit.

01:23:28.780 Yeah.

01:23:28.900 A little bit.

01:23:29.280 I listened to them.

01:23:30.120 I mean, I like both of them quite a bit.

01:23:31.600 So, uh, you know, I think it's going to be a good show.

01:23:33.700 I do too.

01:23:34.740 I do too.

01:23:35.640 Yeah.

01:23:35.980 All right.

01:23:36.380 Good.

01:23:37.500 Uh, coming up, Rudy Giuliani and Alan Dershowitz.

01:23:40.860 What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:24:06.340 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:24:16.400 Hello, America.

01:24:17.620 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:24:19.460 We want to talk about, uh, justice and the American system.

01:24:26.220 We have, uh, we have a couple of things going on in the world with our, with our justice system.

01:24:32.860 Uh, the justice department, I think has become hostile to the bill of rights.

01:24:38.620 Some in the FBI at the upper level of the justice department.

01:24:42.920 Uh, I think they are, uh, they're squashing the bill of rights as well.

01:24:49.980 There is, there is a real question of, can you get justice in America anymore?

01:24:56.120 Uh, and we have attorneys that are not taking on unpopular clients.

01:25:03.220 Well, have you ever read anything about John Adams?

01:25:07.400 Have you ever read anything about our justice system?

01:25:10.260 That that's exactly why we need the Alan Dershowitz, uh, in our lives.

01:25:15.480 And you can't be, um, persecuted because you take on an unpopular client.

01:25:24.880 When did we stop admiring our own system of justice?

01:25:29.620 Well, that's what's happening with Rudy Giuliani.

01:25:32.300 And it is setting a very dangerous precedent.

01:25:36.320 He's joining us along with Alan Dershowitz in 60 seconds.

01:25:40.500 The Glenn Beck program.

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01:27:42.800 Former mayor of New York city, the host now of common sense podcast, mayor Rudy Giuliani.

01:27:57.540 How you doing Rudy?

01:27:59.420 Good.

01:28:01.080 It is, uh, you know, it is what is happening in our country is so astounding to me.

01:28:09.280 And I, I heard you say last week, it's if this isn't America anymore, explain to people exactly why they're trying to suspend or what they're saying, what they're using to suspend your license in New York.

01:28:25.720 Well, I've been practicing law for over 50 years.

01:28:29.060 I have never had, I don't think a complaint, certainly never a proceeding against me.

01:28:33.800 And I probably have tried some of the most difficult cases in the history of the country.

01:28:39.280 They're, uh, basically the complaint against me is that I, on a number of occasions, uh, set forth facts indicating that there was fraud in the, uh, 2020 election.

01:28:54.500 Uh, those facts are all based on information and evidence I got from other people.

01:29:01.640 Most of them are backed up by affidavits.

01:29:04.500 I've offered several courts, the opportunity to hear these witnesses.

01:29:07.840 They've been uniformly declined.

01:29:11.080 I offered this court, the opportunity to look at the affidavits.

01:29:15.260 Uh, not only didn't, did they decline it, they kind of lied about it.

01:29:19.240 And, um, well, I, well, what I, what I did was I said that in, in the state of, let's say Georgia,

01:29:27.840 there were several estimates of the number of dead people who voted that ranged as high as 8,000, 3,000, 5,000, 8,000.

01:29:41.060 And that I had, uh, that I had debt certificates involving at least 800 of them.

01:29:46.680 Uh, I, I explained that that's all based on affidavits.

01:29:52.600 Instead of looking at the affidavits, they concluded because I gave three different numbers and because I didn't give them the affidavits, I was lying.

01:29:59.580 Well, the fact is there are three different numbers because there are three different experts who have three different estimates.

01:30:07.480 And I made that clear in the, in the statements that I made.

01:30:11.160 And they never bothered to ask, to see the affidavits I said were available.

01:30:16.960 Now I have 400 affidavits.

01:30:19.540 I couldn't possibly have delivered them all to the court.

01:30:22.440 I'm also represented by judges who were on that court who told me that you normally don't give the underlying affidavits until you get to the hearing.

01:30:31.460 This is a preliminary stage.

01:30:33.060 You just tell them you'll make whatever affidavits they feel are necessary available.

01:30:38.200 They fail to tell you that I did that and make it sound like I'm hiding the affidavits, which is a straight out and out lie.

01:30:46.700 Those affidavits back up to the number, every single number that I used.

01:30:52.200 And if you saw the affidavits or any court ever let these witnesses testify, well, the dam would break loose.

01:31:00.880 The 80 courts refused to hear witnesses.

01:31:02.900 I only was involved in three of the cases.

01:31:04.580 The 80 courts refused to hear a single witness, a single citizen, who can testify that there was fraud in the election.

01:31:12.580 They make it sound like I have the information.

01:31:15.300 I don't.

01:31:16.140 I have other people's information, Glenn.

01:31:18.500 I'm sitting right now in my den.

01:31:21.260 Two rooms away from me is a file room that has those 400 affidavits.

01:31:26.900 They're from American citizens, like a woman, 60 years old, who worked for Detroit for 40 years and would testify under oath that she was taught how to cheat by the Detroit Democrat Party.

01:31:40.100 They taught her how to put phony names on phony ballots. 0.56

01:31:46.140 Names of people who were underage or dead.

01:31:49.080 Now, she could be telling the truth.

01:31:52.060 So, Rudy, I could be lying.

01:31:53.880 I right.

01:31:56.120 Right.

01:31:56.640 And that's for a jury to decide or a judge to decide.

01:31:59.980 So I want to I want to keep I want to keep two things separate.

01:32:05.620 One, the the actual election and the aftermath and to the role of an attorney, because you can't just go up and say those things.

01:32:20.320 Like, for instance, I think Sidney Powell was a little irresponsible at the end.

01:32:26.400 She had a lot of credibility and it just kept coming undone because she would never present anything.

01:32:32.480 You were trying to present and go to court.

01:32:35.960 And that's where that's where a bad attorney is shot down, is in court.

01:32:43.000 If you would show up and say you've been saying all these things, but you have no affidavits, you have nothing.

01:32:49.040 But you're not on the hook for what they say in those affidavits unless you told them to perjure themselves.

01:32:58.080 You understand that it's an affidavit.

01:33:00.380 It's sworn under oath.

01:33:01.400 So you are representing your client and bringing these people in.

01:33:05.720 And if they're lying, they get in trouble, not you.

01:33:10.060 Correct.

01:33:10.680 Well, that's true.

01:33:11.500 I mean, I've been practicing all for 50 years and that's the way you do it.

01:33:14.500 I went a little further here.

01:33:15.800 If you go to my podcast, I put some of these people on on recordings.

01:33:21.620 So you can go and see the recordings of them saying this if you want to.

01:33:25.720 So I did I didn't do it with all of them, but I did it with a representative group to show that I wasn't just speculating.

01:33:34.220 There are people there who spell out that they saw, for example, something like 100,000 ballots brought in in the middle of the night in Detroit.

01:33:45.520 From what they could tell, almost every single ballot was for Biden.

01:33:48.960 There were two witnesses to that and then a third witness who saw the last half of it.

01:33:55.920 Those I have on a on a on a podcast.

01:33:59.020 I have a I have a video recording of people being thrown out of the Atlanta Center.

01:34:04.340 By law, you're supposed to have independent witnesses there.

01:34:08.480 When you count ballots, you can see them all being thrown out.

01:34:11.140 You can see the Democratic workers checking out to see that there's nobody there.

01:34:16.160 And then they start counting ballots in secret.

01:34:19.620 And then we have an expert who went and looked at the counter and something like 32000 ballots were counted at that time.

01:34:27.360 Something like ninety nine percent of them were for Biden.

01:34:30.440 Now, that is actually in public.

01:34:33.260 And they accused me of lying about it, but they were too lazy to go look at their podcast.

01:34:40.340 Finally, they say I'm a danger.

01:34:42.340 They say that I am a danger to the public.

01:34:46.800 Now, these statements they're talking about, Glenn, all come after January 6th.

01:34:53.040 So they're not talking about January 6th.

01:34:55.980 They tried to blame me for January 6th.

01:34:58.260 But when I put in the my statement and I put in my recording, they see that when I said trial by combat, I was clearly talking about two machines.

01:35:10.080 I was talking about putting two machines next to each other, the Dominion machine and an honest machine.

01:35:15.360 And let's see which one counts the vote accurately.

01:35:17.560 And I said, I'm willing to bet my reputation.

01:35:19.960 We win.

01:35:21.440 So they tried to make that into a statement of violence.

01:35:24.080 They couldn't.

01:35:24.620 They dropped it.

01:35:25.540 So now they say I'm a continuing danger because on about eight or nine occasions since January 6th, I have said there was fraud in the election.

01:35:35.260 However, that's almost seven months.

01:35:37.960 There hasn't been a protest.

01:35:40.080 There hasn't been a fireworks.

01:35:41.440 There hasn't been a rally.

01:35:43.420 There hasn't been any violence.

01:35:46.060 The danger is in their mind.

01:35:49.740 There's no danger.

01:35:51.640 Nobody's running around going crazy because of what I'm saying.

01:35:54.100 So what does that mean?

01:35:57.360 That if you're on the Democratic side, you can say that for what, three terms of Republican presidents and you, if you're Republican, you can't say that about this election.

01:36:11.380 You can't.

01:36:12.280 No.

01:36:12.500 And, you know, Stacey Abrams can go around Georgia saying she was elected governor. 0.99

01:36:16.540 That's OK.

01:36:18.260 But I can't say that there's evidence of fraud.

01:36:21.480 It's not even that I said the election is stolen.

01:36:23.400 So there's evidence of fraud.

01:36:25.920 Of course, there's evidence of fraud.

01:36:28.580 I mean, I have so much evidence of fraud.

01:36:32.120 I don't have room for it.

01:36:35.120 I'm entitled to that statement.

01:36:37.220 I'm entitled to that opinion.

01:36:38.800 There's even a court case that Alan Dershowitz has pointed out.

01:36:42.900 You don't get penalized for the things you say out of court.

01:36:46.320 I didn't, but I'm entitled to exaggerate out of court to benefit my client.

01:36:50.180 I better be careful when I'm in court, however.

01:36:53.400 It's in the nature of a defense lawyer to make the best possible case for their client.

01:37:00.220 So if you hold me to some strict rules of, you know, everything, I mean, because this case was so important, I did follow the strict rules.

01:37:08.300 And I did make sure that everything was documented.

01:37:12.460 And, for example, when lawyers would come to me, like Sidney, and make a claim, I said, I want to see the documentation first before I support it.

01:37:20.520 But normally I wouldn't do that as a lawyer.

01:37:23.520 My client is entitled to the best possible interpretation I can put on the facts.

01:37:28.300 And if you can make the legitimate exaggeration, you're even entitled to do that.

01:37:33.320 There are cases that say that.

01:37:36.080 So this is five Democrat judges.

01:37:38.960 You have to understand, Glenn, they're appointed not by God.

01:37:42.660 I mean, they're appointed by the Democrat county leaders, some of whom in my career I put in jail, by the way.

01:37:49.300 I mean, one of my most famous cases was convicting two of the most famous Democrat county leaders under Ed Koch and putting him in jail for bribery.

01:37:58.440 I know how corrupt this city is.

01:38:00.080 Very few people do.

01:38:01.980 This is a corrupt old Democrat city like Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit. 0.91

01:38:06.900 These are the cities they picked to cheat.

01:38:09.440 They didn't cheat in Omaha, Nebraska.

01:38:12.100 They cheated in Detroit.

01:38:14.360 They cheated in Philadelphia, and they own Philadelphia.

01:38:17.120 50 years of Democrat rule in Chicago, last weekend, 77 shootings, and nobody cares.

01:38:25.540 If you don't think that that corruption spills over into the way judges are appointed, you don't understand how corruption works in American politics.

01:38:34.200 Each one of these judges wrote their appointment to a Democrat district leader.

01:38:38.500 If they wrote an opinion favorable to Rudy Giuliani or Donald Trump, they'd be finished.

01:38:43.080 Their career is completely controlled by, one, Andrew Cuomo.

01:38:48.580 They're going nowhere if Andrew Cuomo decides to blackball.

01:38:52.640 Right.

01:38:53.300 That's an unfortunate reality, and that's why you see these decisions come down, Republican, Democrat.

01:38:58.400 We go in front of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania on a crazy, crazy decision that all the poll watcher has to be is present.

01:39:07.700 He doesn't have to look at the ballot.

01:39:09.220 You don't have to show him the ballot.

01:39:10.020 He just has to be there in the room, like looking at the trees.

01:39:13.920 And five to two, the Supreme Court upholds it because the five Democrats will accept a totally irrational opinion, because if they don't, they're finished.

01:39:23.180 So, Rudy, I've heard the the guy who really doesn't like you in New York, the head of the ACLU has our former head of the ACLU has come out in your defense and said this just classmate.

01:39:39.640 What did you say?

01:39:42.540 He was my law school classmate.

01:39:45.100 He sued me 40 times as mayor for welfare reform, for job fair, for requiring students to work while they were going to school.

01:39:56.900 I mean, he challenged me on every conservative.

01:40:01.020 Now, he is a pure liberal, and he has said some very harsh things about me.

01:40:06.640 But most importantly, he theoretically disagrees with me on everything.

01:40:14.160 You know, when I was running for president, there were people that thought I wasn't conservative enough.

01:40:17.800 And Hannity used to say, you didn't watch him govern.

01:40:19.740 You didn't watch him govern.

01:40:20.500 I was trying to get Norman to go up and attack me to prove that I was the most conservative mayor in the history.

01:40:27.740 But Norman was too smart to know that it would help me.

01:40:30.580 He said, if I get up and talk, you'll win the Republican primary.

01:40:35.280 He's an honest man.

01:40:36.680 He's an honest.

01:40:37.780 He, like, I believe what I believe, and you do.

01:40:41.180 He believes what he believes.

01:40:43.100 But he also believes in something I truly believe in, which is it's my obligation.

01:40:50.500 And to defend the lawyer who represents the most miserable, horrible criminal is the person who can't get a defense.

01:41:00.080 You know, I never, I never, I tried Nazis. 0.75

01:41:06.060 I tried two Nazis who killed 12,000 people, 122,000 people. 0.73

01:41:12.080 I didn't attack their lawyers.

01:41:15.000 I'd have been real uncomfortable being their lawyer.

01:41:17.540 But if the court appointed me, I'd do it.

01:41:20.500 That's what I, that's what it is to be a lawyer.

01:41:23.560 If you don't understand that, Donald Trump is the only guy in America not entitled to a defense.

01:41:28.520 And his lawyers are the only lawyers who get their offices raided.

01:41:32.100 I can't think of, I never raided a mafia lawyer's office.

01:41:37.120 Ever.

01:41:37.900 Rudy, we are, I'm out of, I'm out of time.

01:41:41.000 But I thank you so much.

01:41:42.380 We're watching your case and we're behind you.

01:41:46.200 Not because, not because you were for Donald Trump or against Donald Trump, but because we cannot allow this to happen.

01:41:54.280 That's the way it should be.

01:41:55.300 Is it at stake?

01:41:56.300 A hundred percent.

01:41:57.040 I agree with you.

01:41:58.040 It's much bigger than me.

01:41:59.240 It's hard to say that, but it is.

01:42:00.380 It's much bigger than me.

01:42:02.360 Yep.

01:42:02.760 Rudy Giuliani, thank you so much.

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01:46:43.720 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:46:45.900 I heard Alan Dershowitz talk about Rudy Giuliani Monday on the Megan Kelly podcast, and I just thought he made such good points, and I wanted you to hear them.

01:47:00.600 But I also had a couple of questions for Mr. Dershowitz on this particular case and what it means if it's not repaired.

01:47:09.040 Welcome, Alan Dershowitz, host of The Dershow.

01:47:13.020 How are you, sir?

01:47:13.560 Well, I'm doing good, but I'm very concerned.

01:47:17.200 You know, I've been a lawyer for 60 years.

01:47:19.900 I taught legal ethics for about 35 years at Harvard.

01:47:23.780 I have never seen a case like the Rudy Giuliani case.

01:47:28.680 First of all, they deny him an evidentiary hearing.

01:47:32.260 They say you have to prove not only that what he said was false, but knowingly false, that he knew it was false.

01:47:39.460 He denies that, and yet they didn't take evidence.

01:47:43.640 They just suspended him, saying that the suspension is likely to become permanent without any kind of an opportunity for him to respond.

01:47:53.260 Moreover, I have never seen a case where lawyers have been disciplined, not necessarily for what they say in court.

01:48:01.540 Some of the allegations are what he said in court, but others of the allegations are what he said on television, on Fox, on Newsmax, on podcasts.

01:48:10.820 Why is that not protected by the First Amendment?

01:48:14.580 I think everybody will concede, the court will concede, that everything Rudy Giuliani said would be protected by the First Amendment if he weren't a lawyer.

01:48:23.420 What's the difference that he's a lawyer?

01:48:26.180 Well, I mean, I watch lawyers on TV all the time, just, for instance, in the Chauvin case, I've heard the lawyers talk about how this is all about race.

01:48:41.820 And yet, when they got into the court, there wasn't one word about race.

01:48:48.260 Well, was he right?

01:48:51.380 Should he be suspended?

01:48:53.420 Well, I can tell you, many, many thousands of lawyers would be suspended if this decision by the Appellate Division in New York were applied across the board universally.

01:49:05.700 There's a famous case where a prosecutor held up a pair of underpants, saying it belonged to the defendant, and that the red on it was his blood when the prosecutor knew it was pink.

01:49:17.700 The guy got sentenced to death.

01:49:19.360 Ultimately, it was reversed.

01:49:20.700 But the lawyer wasn't disciplined or disbarred.

01:49:23.900 I've experienced myself probably two dozen cases where lawyers have made misstatements to the court.

01:49:31.040 I filed a grievance.

01:49:32.340 I filed a grievance against David Boyes, a prominent lawyer, the senior partner in Boyes Killer, who has had many ethical complaints against him.

01:49:40.020 In the Theranos case, in the Winston case, you name it, and other cases, he says to me on tape, on tape, I have it on tape, he says to me, the woman who accused you is wrong, simply wrong.

01:49:53.140 You couldn't have been in the places she said you were in when she claimed to have sex with you.

01:49:58.920 He says that on tape, and then just a short time later, he files a complaint saying she's telling the truth and everything she says is truthful.

01:50:07.540 He knows that that's false.

01:50:10.240 If I filed a complaint with the same disciplinary board that disciplined Giuliani, and they wouldn't even consider the complaint, they wouldn't even investigate, that's how selective this prosecution is.

01:50:25.120 And it's unfair.

01:50:26.500 They're going after Giuliani, not because of what he said, but because of who he defended and because they don't agree with his politics.

01:50:34.280 So here's the here's the scary thing, Alan, we know that it would not be universally applied because it never it never works out that way, strangely, because it's about politics.

01:50:48.060 However, this should shock every attorney to know that if you fall on the wrong side of an issue, you can be suspended.

01:50:57.820 But also this goes to something else.

01:51:01.220 We have I have one of the had one of the best First Amendment attorneys in the country from from Washington, D.C., battling with us.

01:51:13.900 I've I've had them for 20 years and battling with them, et cetera, et cetera.

01:51:18.520 We're in the middle of something and we get dropped.

01:51:23.000 And the reason why we're dropped is because it will cause problems with some of the other cases and the partners that we have.

01:51:32.120 You excuse me.

01:51:34.480 Yeah, you're now make they were making political calculations on who they were going to represent.

01:51:41.100 Alan, if this kind of stuff continues, you if you're unpopular, you're not going to get an attorney.

01:51:46.980 Well, I remember this from the 1950s.

01:51:50.460 I was a year too young to remember to know this, but I was in college when McCarthyism was rearing its ugly head and no lawyer would dare to represent somebody who was accused of being a communist or a fellow traveler or too far left.

01:52:05.700 Yesterday, it was the left that was complaining against the right.

01:52:09.400 Today, it's the right that's being victimized by the left.

01:52:13.420 And, you know, what's going on in this world today?

01:52:16.540 The hard left has become the enemy of free speech, due process and equal protection of the laws.

01:52:23.180 And they call themselves progressives.

01:52:25.980 They don't want equality.

01:52:27.220 They want identity politics.

01:52:28.620 They don't want due process.

01:52:29.800 If a woman says it's true, it must be true. 1.00

01:52:31.540 Why have a hearing?

01:52:32.480 They don't want free speech.

01:52:33.760 If we don't agree with you, you shouldn't be able to say it.

01:52:36.360 Free speech for me, but not for the what has happened to the hard left and the Constitution.

01:52:42.080 They see the Constitution as the enemy of their utopia.

01:52:46.760 They don't realize that without these constitutional rights, every utopia turns into a dystopia.

01:52:52.660 If you don't believe that, look at Castro's Cuba.

01:52:55.560 Look at Mao's China.

01:52:56.660 Look at Stalin's Russia. 0.87

01:52:58.120 And you'll see historically it's always been the case.

01:53:01.360 When you end these rights, you end freedom and liberty.

01:53:04.880 And we have to fight against it.

01:53:06.260 I'm a liberal Democrat.

01:53:07.980 I voted for Joe Biden.

01:53:10.000 I voted for Hillary Clinton.

01:53:11.340 I voted for Barack Obama.

01:53:12.840 I voted for Bill Clinton.

01:53:14.360 I voted for every Democrat.

01:53:16.340 And I'm just as concerned as if I were today a Republican.

01:53:21.000 And they can come after me tomorrow because I defended President Trump in front of the United

01:53:25.900 States Senate.

01:53:27.260 And I'm suing CNN because they totally distorted what I said.

01:53:31.900 And I won the first round of my case against CNN.

01:53:34.260 And I think I hope I will win the subsequent rounds as well.

01:53:37.780 We cannot allow this attack on the Constitution to continue.

01:53:45.600 But, you know, I wish there were more liberals like you.

01:53:49.660 I mean, this is what a liberal used to be.

01:53:52.620 And I don't know where those people are hiding.

01:53:55.120 I don't know if they don't exist.

01:53:56.980 They don't see the threat.

01:53:58.240 Or they're afraid to say anything.

01:53:59.920 Or that Donald Trump was so bad that, you know, ends justify the means.

01:54:06.180 I don't know where they are.

01:54:08.520 That's what I think many of them say.

01:54:10.220 That's what they tell me.

01:54:11.480 You know, people don't talk to me anymore on Martha's Vineyard.

01:54:14.180 They don't talk to me in other places.

01:54:15.520 Mostly Martha's Vineyard.

01:54:16.700 These are people whose kids I wrote recommendations for for college, whose kids I got up at three

01:54:22.120 in the morning and helped get out of jail when they were picked up with drugs or with alcohol.

01:54:28.980 These are people I have done things for over the years.

01:54:31.360 Today, they won't talk to me because I defended the president of the United States.

01:54:36.460 And Trump is different.

01:54:38.620 Nothing applies to Trump.

01:54:40.040 The Constitution is suspended when it comes to Trump.

01:54:43.240 That's the road to tyranny.

01:54:44.480 Well, let me ask you this.

01:54:48.380 The the ex-FBI lawyer that lied to the FISA court.

01:54:54.040 I mean, he changed he changed documents.

01:54:57.800 He got a one year bar suspension.

01:55:01.520 Rudy Giuliani is facing a life suspension.

01:55:05.040 This guy gets a one year suspension from the bar.

01:55:08.280 Doesn't that seem a little light for somebody who went into court, knowingly changed documents

01:55:16.120 to have it say the exact opposite in a FISA court?

01:55:21.720 Yeah, especially a FISA court, because there's no other side of the FISA court.

01:55:25.500 The FISA court isn't an adversarial system.

01:55:27.880 One side is presented.

01:55:28.900 And so that side is expected to present everything fairly in a pristine manner because they have

01:55:36.840 a special, special responsibility.

01:55:39.380 Look, I think what that guy is accused of doing is far worse than anything that Giuliani

01:55:44.900 is accused of doing.

01:55:46.660 Oh, yeah.

01:55:47.620 And yet he's coming down so hard on Giuliani.

01:55:50.460 I would like to have somebody go and go through all the cases where the appellate division in

01:55:55.740 New York or the disciplinary board in New York has refused to take action against lawyers.

01:56:01.840 For the most part, they take action against lawyers who steal money from clients.

01:56:05.600 They very rarely take action against lawyers who lie in court.

01:56:09.160 I have had so many cases in the Southern District of New York where prosecutors have said things

01:56:15.740 that are clearly untrue.

01:56:17.300 And I've written books about it and I've, you know, argued appeals based on it.

01:56:22.380 But I've never seen any lawyer disbarred because of it.

01:56:26.500 I don't want to see lawyers disbarred.

01:56:28.200 I don't.

01:56:28.560 I'm against the weaponization of the justice system for political and partisan purposes.

01:56:33.300 But I don't want to see Giuliani treated to a double standard and denied due process

01:56:39.540 and denied free speech rights.

01:56:41.420 Well, but but wait a minute.

01:56:43.120 You you should get in trouble if you're lying in court.

01:56:48.020 Yeah.

01:56:48.560 Shouldn't you?

01:56:49.180 Yeah.

01:56:49.860 Yeah.

01:56:50.100 Yeah.

01:56:50.460 Yeah.

01:56:50.820 Right.

01:56:51.240 OK.

01:56:51.460 And with the court.

01:56:53.980 But you have no obligation to be candid on Fox television or in Glenn Beck's radio show.

01:57:00.000 I'm always going to be candid because that's who I am.

01:57:03.100 I have never deliberately said anything that's untrue on any radio or or television show,

01:57:08.960 to my knowledge.

01:57:09.580 And I'm going to continue to maintain that standard for myself.

01:57:13.100 But I don't want to see the government have the power to determine whether what I've said

01:57:18.800 to you is true or false.

01:57:20.480 Once you give the government that power and bar association disciplinary groups are the

01:57:26.220 government, you give them the power to chill advocacy, to chill free speech, and you give

01:57:33.620 them the power to selectively enforce the law.

01:57:36.440 And that's so dangerous.

01:57:37.480 You know, one of the dictators of South America famously said, for my friends, everything for

01:57:42.600 my enemies, the law.

01:57:45.080 The law is so powerful.

01:57:47.140 You can use it so effectively against your enemies.

01:57:49.860 And what we're seeing right now is a banana republic style attempt to try to go after former 0.94

01:57:57.220 president Trump and his family and his family and his company and his associates.

01:58:01.960 And that's what happens again in banana republics. 0.73

01:58:04.720 When you undo a government, you go after the former government, you put them in jail, you 0.99

01:58:09.740 kill them. 0.99

01:58:10.440 You do all those things. 1.00

01:58:11.820 That's what determines whether it's a tyranny or democracy.

01:58:15.220 In America, we generally applaud our former office holders and we don't go after them.

01:58:21.840 But here you have in New York, the attorney general of the state of New York runs for

01:58:26.800 office without seeing a bit of evidence, runs for office on the campaign pledge that she 0.96

01:58:31.820 will get Trump.

01:58:33.340 It's not what an attorney general should do.

01:58:35.540 And that's not a fair way of approaching criminal justice.

01:58:40.920 From the Dershow, Alan Dershowitz, you can grab his podcast wherever you get your podcast.

01:58:47.880 As always, Alan, thank you very much for your honesty.

01:58:51.160 I know we disagree, I'm sure, on a lot of things, but on telling the truth and standing

01:58:59.080 up for what is right.

01:59:01.520 Yeah.

01:59:03.040 Yeah.

01:59:03.880 All right, Alan, thank you so much.

01:59:05.420 God bless.

01:59:06.540 You bet.

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02:00:12.100 You may have noticed the tendency of the media occasionally and the Democratic Party to highlight

02:00:28.800 the perceived dangers of white supremacy.

02:00:30.960 Not sure if you've noticed that at all, but we have not yet received the sort of MLK equality

02:00:37.500 that we're all looking for when we talk about black nationalists and black supremacy.

02:00:43.940 We have a shooting that occurred the other day.

02:00:47.140 Guy Othal Ozone Wallace.

02:00:51.420 Good old Ozone.

02:00:53.180 Shot a police officer in the head in Florida and then ran away. 0.87

02:00:56.760 He was discovered on the training grounds of a black nationalist organization. 0.58

02:01:02.680 This organization called the NFAC, the Not F-ing Around Coalition.

02:01:10.020 So he goes, apparently once they got there, the police got there, found this guy.

02:01:14.560 They said, well, actually we dissolved the NFAC quite a while ago.

02:01:18.360 But this guy was kicked out, of course, of the NFAC.

02:01:22.760 And the NFAC is an organization started by a guy who has had a couple of brushes with the law.

02:01:33.100 He, you know, I don't know if you can detect any ties to a police shooting here, but here's the quote from the report.

02:01:39.600 Investigators found videos of Johnson, who started this organization, calling for the incitement of violence against Minneapolis police.

02:01:46.620 Quote, the only way to stop police violence is to identify and locate the homes of police, burn the houses to the ground, kill the officer and their family members and associates.

02:02:02.880 So relatively direct statement there.

02:02:05.560 It's absolutely unbelievable that the media seems to have no interest in this whatsoever.

02:02:13.060 You watch the videos.

02:02:14.480 He was identified in the videos.

02:02:15.860 You can see those on my YouTube page, Studios America.

02:02:19.800 His we show you the videos, show you where he was in previous rallies.

02:02:24.540 The rallies are heavily armed, massive guns all over the place.

02:02:30.000 The types of weapons that the left definitely wants banned.

02:02:32.580 And there are thousands of people.

02:02:35.800 It's amazing these things pass by and nobody reports on them.

02:02:40.200 I mean, to the extent that white supremacy is still a thing, it's obviously a terrible thing.

02:02:46.720 But, I mean, the numbers are relatively small here and we're told it's the biggest threat to our country.

02:02:53.220 If that was the reaction, I guess, to the media, you know, of kind of a dismissive attitude, maybe you'd understand the way they react here.

02:03:03.420 But this is a black nationalist and the media doesn't seem to care. 0.91

02:03:07.660 This is an organization that has threatened to kill cops. 0.99

02:03:10.080 Nobody cares. 0.76

02:03:11.220 This is an organization that had someone shoot a cop in the head and no one cares.

02:03:15.700 And the media is silent.

02:03:18.140 I mean, honestly, I take that back.

02:03:19.860 They're not silent.

02:03:20.520 I wish they were silent because what they're doing right now is so much worse.

02:03:25.440 Don't forget to subscribe to this podcast here, Glenn Beck Program, of course, and Studios America, wherever you get your podcasts.

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