On this episode of The Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck talks about the Daniel Penny trial and why he should have been given the same punishment as the rest of the New York City police officers involved in the case. He also talks about how a Marine stood up to a crazed man on the subway and did the right thing.
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00:04:35.380Okay, so here's what happened on Friday.
00:04:38.640If you've been following the Daniel Penny trial.
00:04:40.840Now, Daniel Penny is the guy who was on the subway, did absolutely the right thing by standing up when this guy who was, he's psychotic, he was high on crack or something.
00:04:57.460I mean, I don't know what the other options are besides crack, but he was high on something.
00:05:03.300And he was threatening everybody on the subway and said, I'm going to kill you all.
00:05:18.220The guy that was on the plane that was going to the Pentagon and they crashed, not Pentagon, the Capitol, and they crashed in Pennsylvania.
00:05:38.660Well, now, in New York, that's not a hero.
00:05:41.360This guy is a Marine, knew how he could choke the guy out without killing him.
00:05:45.800But he was high on crack or whatever and he choked him out and he died.
00:05:53.000Well, everybody was happy that he did it.
00:05:56.720Not that he died, but everybody was happy that he took control of the situation and stopped this guy because everyone on the train was afraid for their life.
00:07:25.640He allowed or granted the request to drop the count of manslaughter in the second degree, which the jury was deadlocked on, telling the jury now just only consider the lesser charge of criminally negligent homicide.
00:17:55.460They investigated and prosecuted, well, they investigated at least 100 people for just speaking out.
00:18:08.580In June, another 20-year-old woman in Germany was sentenced to jail for defamation for calling one of those nine men a disgusting rapist pig.
00:18:18.780So, the one she called a, quote, disgusting rapist pig didn't go to jail.
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00:28:48.560D&I, Tulsi Gabbard, I think, can do it over there.
00:28:51.440And he hasn't picked moderate Republicans.
00:28:57.460He's picked strong people on the COVID front, picking Marty McCary, a doctor from Johns Hopkins, and Jay Bhattacharya, a doctor from Stanford, who have been leading leaders and pointing out this nonsense.
00:29:10.980So I'm over the moon with some of these picks.
00:29:14.920So what do you think is going to happen?
00:29:16.200I mean, you know, the White House is saying that Fauci may be pardoned in advance of anything, which doesn't seem like you could do that, but they'll try it anyway.
00:29:29.880I mean, at least it has to be everything just has to be dumped and exposed.
00:29:36.160I've sent referrals, criminal referrals on Anthony Fauci twice to the Department of Justice without really a response.
00:32:02.360But I should get to see all the information.
00:32:04.480And really, in this case, the American public should see all of the information.
00:32:08.300Anything to do with Russiagate, anything to do with the abuse of the FBI to go after Donald Trump,
00:32:12.640all that has to be publicly released as well.
00:32:15.200Well, on Friday, here in Fort Worth, Texas, there was a judge that ordered Pfizer to release and produce all of its emergency use authorization file
00:32:27.820to a group of scientists that want to look through it.
00:32:31.260And they've been saying, well, we can't do it.
00:38:15.000I've had this under, I've had this bill for years.
00:38:17.960And both Mike Lee and I have fought on this out of principle.
00:38:21.880Nothing to do with who the president is.
00:38:23.540I don't want, I don't want any, I don't want any president to have this kind of power.
00:38:28.700We have got to reduce the power of the president of the United States.
00:38:33.080And if he goes in and does everything by executive order, we lose because the next guy will come in and do exactly what Biden did and just cancel it all.
00:38:45.000We've got to get back to a debate, to reason, and to Congress and the Senate actually doing their job.
00:38:54.440This is something that people need to realize that it's not new because people get caught up in the situation.
00:39:00.480They think it's about one person or another.
00:39:02.580The constitutional position of conservatives and limited government advocates has always been that, as Madison said, we divided the powers, we separated the powers, and we wanted to pit ambition against ambition.
00:39:15.940In other words, the ambition of people to try to take power would be pitted by the others trying to keep them from taking power.
00:39:23.500But over the last hundred years since FDR, the power of the presidency has gradually expanded, and what we need now is a stronger legislature and less power for the central authority to balance that power again.
00:39:37.360This was sort of Montesquieu saying that when the executive legislates, when he has both the power to execute and legislate, that's when liberty fails.
00:40:09.480Senator Rand Paul from the great state of Kentucky.
00:40:12.240Now, let me tell you about my patriot supply.
00:40:15.500With the Trump administration coming in, I feel pretty good, you know.
00:40:19.680I will tell you I saw a warning from the Secret Service, former Secret Service leader, who said he thinks something horrible, horrible, horrible is going to happen before Donald Trump gets in office with regard to his security.
00:48:15.800Well, overall, what it is, is really disrupting cooperation between our local law enforcement and ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
00:48:26.620And so anytime you disrupt or try to stop that communication or cooperation, basically you're making us more unsafe.
00:48:35.480And that's really what the overall crux is, is what they're trying to do, is not have ICE involved, primarily with the people that we have in the jails here in San Diego County.
00:48:46.500Even though they're here illegally, and even though they're criminals, one of my colleagues is putting forward an effort that we don't have that cooperation between ICE and local law enforcement.
00:48:58.060As a matter of fact, we sever it, and that's what's being proposed.
00:49:44.560And they're either, you know, while they're in, they should be able to be, ICE should be able to come in and investigate and see if they should be deported or not.
00:49:51.480And when they get released, and unfortunately, you know, these, they're going to be released back into our communities.
00:50:00.840And if we don't deport these people, you know, this is really what we need to do to make ourselves, our countries, and our communities safer is get these illegal immigrants that are here and that are criminals.
00:50:15.720There should be no question about that.
00:50:17.440And that just, you know, the community, we have people, you know, coming onto our beaches here in San Diego County and boatloads, and they're just walking into the communities and disappearing into the country.
00:50:28.520We had over 150,000 people just dropped in our streets here after they came across the border with no vetting.
00:50:36.900And so, you know, in San Diego County, we're a coastal community in California, which is still, unfortunately, mostly blue.
00:50:44.460But we've also got safety concerns, and I'm hoping that most people wake up to that and say, hey, these criminal illegal immigrants have to be deported.
00:50:52.480So we're on in San Diego, and I hope that people are listening, and do they need to attend this meeting?
00:51:05.300They can contact the county administration office, and they can get information on how to call in and how to make your voices be heard.
00:51:14.020Because this is really insane, the fact that we've got criminal elements here that are being released back into our streets, and the people are here illegally.
00:51:23.900And, you know, the people that my colleague is trying to protect are other illegal immigrants, is what she's trying to protect.
00:51:33.180But by allowing the criminal ones to stay here, that's hurting the same neighborhoods that she's trying to protect.
00:51:38.840To me, it's, you know, just ludicrous to try to attempt to just allow that criminal element to stay here in San Diego County when they should be deported to our country.
00:51:51.660So, in San Diego, when the vote came through and people were voting red, what was the, where was immigration on the list of things people were voting for?
00:52:03.880Because I would imagine in San Diego, if I was voting for Donald Trump, that would be pretty high on the list.
00:52:28.900We needed about double that here in San Diego County.
00:52:32.320So, immigration is on top of people, are on top of people's mind.
00:52:36.760The thing is, unfortunately, most people are too busy to understand what's going on with them because they got their own lives and families and kids.
00:52:43.280And to understand the nuances of what this is really going to do.
00:52:47.880And to me, it's going to be harmful to the community and affect public safety for all of our neighborhoods here, not only in San Diego County, but in the rest of the country.
00:52:57.120Do you think there's any chance that California returns?
00:52:59.340I mean, Tanya and I have been talking about moving to Florida.
00:53:04.300You know, as I get older, I guess I have to go with a metal detector onto a beach someplace.
00:53:34.780We've had some good leaders in the past, but unfortunately, it's shifted.
00:53:38.580And unfortunately, our entire state government, they have a super majority of Democrats.
00:53:44.740So even Republican voices hardly ever get heard.
00:53:48.440But I think people are waking up here particularly, you know, to the immigration issue.
00:53:53.180And I think that's in front of people's minds.
00:53:55.220And even, you know, the richer beach or, you know, more affluent beach communities where these boats are landing.
00:54:01.020It used to be like two or three a week.
00:54:02.860We just have a dozen people jump off the boat and run into the neighborhood and get picked up and go someplace else.
00:54:08.020So I'm hoping there's some change, and immigration is definitely on top of people's minds.
00:54:12.500But they've got to understand that we've got to get rid of the illegal immigrants that are here committing crimes and allow law enforcement agencies to work together to keep us safe.
00:54:25.000Is there any thought at all about Donald Trump cracking down on sanctuary cities?
00:54:32.440Well, hey, I'm liking what Homan has been saying here lately, cracking down.
00:54:37.400Yeah, you know, there's ways they can do that, you know, with funding and things like that.
00:54:43.540And, you know, we can't break federal law.
00:54:47.160If they make a federal law such that law enforcement agencies have to work together, then we can't really, you know, we can't, you know, push against that.
00:54:58.300But I think there's a possibility of some rational people finally getting around and saying, hey, this isn't safe.
00:55:05.440You know, we want immigration, we want it done legally, but people, if they're going to come here and just walk across the border, ask for asylum, and then commit crimes.
00:55:14.920And these are high-end crimes we're talking about.
00:55:16.960This is, you know, possession of a firearm, gang-related violence, burglary, robbery, child abuse and her engagement.
00:55:24.380Those are the things that are going to be taken off the list if this passes to where ICE can come in and work with the criminal element.
00:55:42.400What do people do if they want to get involved and help?
00:55:46.000Well, you can contact my office at Jim.Desmond at San Diego County, or you can contact the county offices, look for the meetings, go to the agenda.
00:57:35.800Not some pimple-faced kid who happens to be, you know, he's up on all 800 seasons of Grey's Anatomy, but, you know, let's have somebody a little more capable.
00:57:48.220It stands to reason when you're ready to buy or sell a house, you want a really good real estate agent.
00:57:54.460Over a decade ago, I formed a company.
00:57:56.920It's called Real Estate Agents I Trust, and it exists to make sure that you get the job done right the first time.
00:58:03.780All we do is we look for and vet the best real estate agents in the country.
00:58:10.400We put these guys through the ringer, honestly.
00:58:14.060These people, when they're done, we know everything about them, and we continue to watch them.
01:23:16.440So possibly when you look at some of the problems, when you look at what's going on with disease and sickness in our country, something's wrong.
01:27:35.920We gotta stand together if we're gonna survive!
01:27:40.640Stand up straight and hold it up and hold it up!
01:27:45.060and hold the light it's a new day on time to ride welcome to the fusion of entertainment
01:27:54.740and enlightenment this is the glenn beck program it was a busy weekend for the president he was uh
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01:29:45.280welcome to the program and welcome to stuber gear thank you glenn um welcome and donald trump went
01:29:55.440on meet the press this weekend yes this is what you're supposed to do if you're gonna be yeah
01:30:00.480apparently so we're just supposed to reflexively go to nbc news whenever those days are over well i
01:30:07.340thought they were too no i mean he has to do them but but not well does he does he have to do with
01:30:13.600them yeah i think he should do a little of everything you know what i mean i think you shouldn't just go to
01:30:19.120podcasts you know that's what barack obama did remember and he was like doing interviews with
01:30:24.160you know who was that woman in the bathtub and you're like okay this is ridiculous you got you
01:30:30.000don't have to do the bathtub one but i think you you should you should go on places where you know
01:30:35.900it's adversarial yeah it's adversarial you're not going to get an inner a good interview i think that's
01:30:40.860required as president i agree with that um i just president not necessarily as a even as a candidate
01:30:49.140i think it's something you should do i mean i think kamala harris should have done an adversarial
01:30:53.280interview during the campaign at some point which she did not do she didn't do interviews i mean she
01:30:58.760wasn't doing anything for a very long time and they switched uh switched strategies and it did not help
01:31:03.200in fact it went the opposite direction no they really i do wonder there is their alternate world
01:31:08.080what that election would have looked like if she just continued to do nothing i think it would
01:31:13.820have been closer i think if she never did an interview it would have been closer you're right
01:31:19.200on that i think you're right the more she spoke the more you were like oh dear god no no don't do
01:31:25.260that because i think they they correctly uh realized that there were a certain amount of people who
01:31:32.520were very worried about a candidate that couldn't do an interview right and so they tried to solve
01:31:40.680that by doing interviews and that what they should have done is just let those people go like realize
01:31:46.340they're not going to vote for you and hope has anybody noticed and and i i am biased because i've
01:31:51.420i've been talking to him off air um and and watching him talk to a lot of people you know without cameras
01:31:59.660around and his uh his grasp on deep subjects has changed a great deal have you noticed donald trump
01:32:11.040in interviews is not the same guy he was in 2020 yeah i think that's true he certainly seems to be
01:32:17.780more focused and has a real plan yeah so what he's going to do as we know it's directly project 2025
01:32:23.740which he commissioned we should remember of course no um yeah no it does seem like he yeah you you
01:32:29.880made the description i think it was last week which has been sticking with me which is after 2020 he
01:32:34.960just spent four years just like this isn't going to happen to me again like i'm going to make sure
01:32:39.500these things if i get a president if i'm able to become president again i'm not going to be hit by
01:32:46.060all of these i'm not going to be surprised yeah right okay it's and it seems like he's coming in
01:32:51.080he's ready ready for yeah he's ready the other thing that happened to him that i think has cut
01:32:55.920down all of his uh uh his slams and and everything else i mean he still does but um you'll notice he's
01:33:03.840not as crazy on things and i think that's what do you mean look crazy on things like just not as like
01:33:09.300you know worried about like name calling okay yeah you know what i mean um he's not like that as much
01:33:15.840because i think he's you know i think it really this is just my speculation put yourself in his
01:33:23.340shoes in 2014 everybody on both sides loved him right maybe not as the president but they oh yeah
01:33:33.740they loved him like everybody celebrity and he was a great guy and he's a philanthropist and he's done
01:33:39.700so much and then he gets in and everybody that were that were his friends that knew him and knew what
01:33:51.580he was like they all of a sudden turned on him and i think that just took him by absolute surprise
01:33:59.140and he just kept he had to keep punching and punching and punching and punching and punching
01:34:03.660and i think now um a couple of things have happened uh one he just stopped caring uh because you do care
01:34:12.820no matter what anybody says you do care um he stopped caring and then i think when he was shot
01:34:20.460i think he found his purpose and i also think in the following months he kind of became cool he became
01:34:29.840the guy who could go on saturday night live and make fun of himself you know what i mean and everybody
01:34:36.120would accept him he became kind of mainstream again and so i don't think he feels like he has to punch
01:34:42.760anymore that's interesting yeah uh yeah i i i have noticed a difference in him i mean i think getting
01:34:49.640shot oh no matter what that is critical that was critical it was change yeah i mean it has to change
01:34:56.700you right yeah and so he's going into this with a real plan and one of his one part of his plan this
01:35:01.660is gonna be clip four is uh his plan to end birthright citizenship this is you know obviously highly
01:35:09.180controversial many people on the left do not like it at all they asked him about it on meet the press
01:35:14.080with was it wexler christine wexler yeah somebody that nobody's ever heard of because everybody who
01:35:19.660have heard of has no credibility there you go you promised to end birthright citizenship
01:35:24.780on day one is that still your plan yeah absolutely the 14th amendment though says that quote all
01:35:30.960persons born in the united states are citizens can you get around the 14th amendment with an
01:35:35.780executive action change we'll maybe have to go back to the people but we have to end it we're the only
01:35:40.560country that has it through an executive action you know we're the only country that has it
01:35:44.180do you know if somebody sets a foot of just a foot one foot you don't need to on our land
01:35:49.400congratulations you are now a a citizen of the united states of america yes we're going to end
01:35:55.180that because it's ridiculous through executive action well if we can through executive action
01:36:00.400i was going to do it through executive action but then we had to fix covet first to be honest with you
01:36:04.700um we have to end it okay so notice notice what happened here um she comes to the 14th
01:36:12.180it's stew tell me why the 14th amendment was first written what is that really about
01:36:17.600uh i mean am i wrong to say slavery no slavery okay it was written you looked at me like i was
01:36:26.320gonna no no no no no it was written for slavery it was written because um all citizens could vote and
01:36:34.100you know you have certain rights blah blah blah and so the southerners the democrats said well they're
01:36:39.980not citizens they're not citizens they're they're from africa so they can't vote yeah so they can't
01:36:46.580vote okay if you were born here even if you were born a slave you're a citizen that's what that was
01:36:53.860about that was not about illegal immigration illegal immigration come over here get into a hospital have
01:36:59.860a baby and now congratulations everybody is a citizen that we are the only one that has it and
01:37:05.980the only reason we do have it is because of slavery it was a way to make sure the democrats
01:37:13.240didn't just cut blacks out of the vote again that's what's so crazy and so notice she goes he says
01:37:20.980uh we may have to go back to the people can you just change that well no it's a constitutional amendment
01:37:27.380so we may have to go back to the people he says that first her immediate response is through executive
01:37:32.940action no i just i just said we may have to go back to the people there are several parts in this
01:37:41.560interview where she doesn't it doesn't seem like she's even listening to him she's got this idea of
01:37:45.860what donald trump says in this moment and she's like already acted it out with her producers multiple
01:37:51.420times so she's just not even listening yes and i also that's why they that's why none of them have
01:37:56.280any credibility because there's not an honest exchange there is no honest questions he just said
01:38:04.060we may have to go he volunteered we may have to go back to the american people for that so you're
01:38:11.400suggesting that maybe it would be a constitutional amendment well yeah i think we would have to do it
01:38:16.020i might i might if i if i get stuck i might try to find a way to do it through executive action
01:38:21.080but it is a constitutional amendment so yes that's an honest conversation right that's not what she did
01:38:27.260no uh do we have this clip handy again to play it again i want to see if you if you catch this one
01:38:32.220little bit in this this is a clip for again uh listen to her verbiage of the 14th amendment you promised
01:38:39.360to end birthright citizenship on day one is that still your plan yeah absolutely the 14th amendment
01:38:45.260though says that quote all persons born in the united states are citizens can you get around
01:38:50.280is that a quote all persons born in the united states are citizens that's what she said the
01:38:58.38014th amendment says now that you ask me i doubt it is right but i don't do have you looked it up i have
01:39:03.960it okay all persons born or naturalized in the united states so she leaves that out but not necessarily
01:39:10.020important to the conversation but the next part is comma and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
01:39:17.780comma are citizens of the united states and of the state wherein they reside the whole 14th amendment
01:39:25.080argument and you might disagree with this part of it is that that phrase and subject to the jurisdiction
01:39:31.700thereof means that illegal immigrants are not included now i how how well the they're not subject to that
01:39:42.120jurisdiction so in other words the well if mom and slaves would be right if mom and baby were here then they would be subject to that
01:39:51.460jurisdiction but the family would not be because they're someplace else i think the the argument and again i i wouldn't say
01:40:00.180i'm an expert on the 14th amendment argument here i i'm gonna tell you but i absolutely am so far away from an expert right right right okay you
01:40:09.120might as well talk to a fisherman what i have heard is people make this argument before okay and the argument
01:40:14.820basically is to be subject to that jurisdiction does not mean that you don't you know everyone of course
01:40:21.160has to follow the laws of a country that you you right you move into but to be subject of that jurisdiction
01:40:25.800means that you have to have a basis in the country uh so it's not like you just cross the border and hey i'm
01:40:31.520now i'm now a subject of this jurisdiction you're a visitor right like or in this case a criminal
01:40:37.860crossing the border right um so you would not get necessarily those protections um of of that 14th
01:40:45.880amendment may i just say the only thing i hate the founders for is their use of commas
01:40:52.360you know that's a good point stop with the use of commas could you please for the love of pete
01:41:01.180uh the right to keep and bear arms comma under a regular a well-run regulated militia comma shall not
01:41:11.240be infringed can you stop with the right it makes it too complex now stop with the commas
01:41:15.660it's very true but i mean i think i think for regardless of what you think about the argument
01:41:22.080of of the 14th amendment and people who are who believe illegal immigrants would not be
01:41:28.180um uh grandfathered into that if it's foundational to the argument why would you skip it right right
01:41:39.180like right you have to bring that up because could you do me a favor do you have chat gpt
01:41:44.820uh or something like that yeah rock or something yeah type that in and ask what that means
01:41:51.420sure we can see it'll take me a second obviously yeah yeah all right um do you want to go to on to
01:41:58.060the next clip or you want to stick yeah let's go to the next clip okay next one is uh on uh ukraine
01:42:03.280and what needs to happen with ukraine this is again trump on meet the press there are people being
01:42:08.720killed in that war at levels that nobody's ever seen before you have to go back to the second world
01:42:14.460war and even that if you take a look at and you know what it is it's the soldiers largely
01:42:20.060the cities have been emptied out and demolished the the country has been demolished if i won that
01:42:27.900election which you know how i feel about it i won't get into it because we don't need to start
01:42:31.980that argument i think it's an easy argument it was really proven even more conclusively by the
01:42:36.460wind that i had on this one but but you did had i well that's your opinion but i disagree with it
01:42:41.960had i assumed kept control number one israel wouldn't have happened number two ukraine would
01:42:49.500have never happened it would have never happened ukraine russia but the number of people that
01:42:53.900are being killed soldiers young beautiful soldiers hundreds of thousands of people are being killed
01:43:02.140and you know it's very interesting it's level totally level the battlefields totally level you
01:43:07.700know what's happening the only thing that stops a bullet you know what it is is a body a human body
01:43:12.320and the people that are being killed hundreds of thousands on both sides russia's lost probably
01:43:19.000500 000 ukraine's lost higher than they say probably 400 000 you're talking about hundreds of thousands of
01:43:27.760bodies laying all over fields it's the stupidest thing i've ever seen and it should have never been
01:43:33.660allowed to happen biden should have been able to stop it amen he's absolutely right and when
01:43:42.280this is over and the body count is actually uh revealed and when you see and when you see black rock
01:43:51.640they're rebuilding when you see all of these uh friends of the biden's rebuilding when you see black
01:44:00.140rock owning the farmland then maybe you will start to have some idea of how grotesque this really was
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01:45:28.800so let's go to chat gpt and just see what uh it says about the 14th amendment and that particular
01:45:46.720phrase between commas and i will say our robot bettors seem to have uh summarized this the same
01:45:53.160way that i understood it okay so historically the consensus among most most legal scholars and
01:45:57.960historical practices has been the phrase excludes only a few categories this is the phrase of uh
01:46:03.040of not subject to the jurisdiction in the united states those categories are children of foreign
01:46:07.700diplomats enemy soldiers uh and some native american tribes who maintain their tribal jurisdiction
01:46:14.540legal precedent has largely supported the view that children born in the u.s to foreign citizens are
01:46:20.320indeed u.s citizens regardless of the immigration status of the parents then some conservatives argue
01:46:26.320subject to the jurisdiction thereof excludes individuals who are in the country illegally
01:46:31.580as they are not legally subject to the u.s jurisdiction jurisdiction in the same way as lawful
01:46:36.700residents or citizens yes they claim that because illegal immigrants have not entered the country and
01:46:41.660remained in it legally that they or their children should not automatically receive citizenship
01:46:45.900that is you know my understanding of the debate and again you can say you disagree with the
01:46:52.300conservative side of that debate you know many do but to in to actually skip the phrase that is
01:47:00.300important to the debate when talking to the man who's arguing the conservative side of that debate is
01:47:06.700jurist is journalism malpractice at the very least and i think it's intentional i believe that it is
01:47:14.900intentional i but i don't know wait i think it's nbc
01:47:19.620it's not intentional it's nbc it's just what we are it's just what they do yes of course it is and
01:47:29.600that's again like it goes back to our original conversation as opposed to whether you go and
01:47:34.320meet the press or not do you need to go to a place that's intentionally doing things like that
01:47:40.360i mean and that is that is inexcusable for the one phrase that's important to the debate you leave
01:47:47.620out of the amendment i mean it's obviously intentional i like the fact that the president
01:47:53.540was calm cool collected didn't name call went through that whole thing um wasn't a fair interview
01:48:02.000it was exactly what you would expect but at least he went and talked to the other side yeah i think i
01:48:08.740think it's worth doing to talk to the other side i think it's worth doing adversarial interviews i
01:48:12.600just wish he'd had a little honesty i guess like i felt i feel like when you went back on the show
01:48:16.640with russert yes that's what you got yes yes it was it wasn't a fair it wasn't an interview liked
01:48:22.440a lot of times he took things i think and took the democratic side a little unfairly but he wouldn't
01:48:27.760eliminate the part of the amendment that is the debate yeah he would not have done that no and he
01:48:34.380would give you a there were times that russert you'd be pissed off at him because it was your guy
01:48:39.660but you'd also be cheering yeah for the other side because he was fair he was even-handed
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