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00:02:51.280 Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program from KFYI in Phoenix, Arizona, where we're here

00:03:01.780 for Charlie Kirk this week. And I'll be attending the memorial service in Glendale, Arizona,

00:03:09.560 which is Cardinal Stadium. And the preparation for this, the logistics on this, it's staggering.

00:03:18.420 When you look at who is coming into town for this, it is literally an event where I hope and I know we

00:03:26.740 probably will have a designated survivor. The guest list and the security around this guest list is

00:03:35.060 unbelievable. I'll tell you a little bit about it coming up in just a second. First,

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00:05:05.280 details. It's mypatriotsupply.com slash Glenn. Welcome to the program. Our chief researcher,

00:05:12.540 Jason Buttrill, is traveling with me. Stu is back in our studios in Dallas, where I will

00:05:17.840 be on Monday. Hello, Stu. How are you? Very well, Glenn. How are you? Good. Good. We're

00:05:24.140 just looking at all of the logistics. Today, my team, we're getting another briefing. We got

00:05:29.720 one last night from the Secret Service and another one I think we're getting today on just

00:05:34.960 the logistics of this Charlie Kirk Memorial on Sunday. I've never seen anything like

00:05:40.780 this. I mean, outside of like inauguration. Yeah, I didn't realize it was at State Farm

00:05:46.200 Stadium where the Arizona Cardinals play. Like this is the Super Bowls there. Yeah, yeah,

00:05:51.080 yeah. I don't know this, but I think Charlie has probably already had a very, very private

00:05:59.940 funeral. And this is just a memorial for the public and for his wife and everybody else.

00:06:09.020 There are so many people coming in for this. I mean, everybody who has a voice in conservative

00:06:20.180 media. I'll be there. Megan will be there. Tucker will be there. All of the voices that I think

00:06:31.140 Dan Bongino is going to be there. I don't know because there's not they're not giving us a list

00:06:35.400 on some of the, you know, any of those people. We're getting a list of who's going to be speaking

00:06:40.920 and just who's going to be speaking alone is staggering, staggering. Let's see. You have the

00:06:51.980 White House Deputy Chief of Staff, Stephen Miller. You have Susie Wiles there. Tucker is going to be

00:06:59.280 speaking. Donald Trump Jr. is going to be speaking. Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth. Listen to this. Just

00:07:04.780 think designated survivor. National Intelligence Director, Tulsi Gabbard. Defense Secretary, Pete

00:07:11.800 Hegseth. Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Secretary of State, Marco

00:07:19.720 Rubio. Erica Kirk, Vice President J.D. Vance and President Donald Trump. I mean, God forbid there's

00:07:27.960 an earthquake and the earth opens up and swallows Cardinal Stadium. Who is running the country?

00:07:34.780 I mean, who really? Who is left? And those are the people that are going to be speaking.

00:07:40.060 The crowd is going to be let in. I think the doors open at 7 a.m. The event begins at 11.

00:07:49.060 And it is, from what I heard, it is packed, packed, like all the tickets are gone. The dignitaries

00:08:01.660 and friends and everything else, all the people that need the Secret Service protection because

00:08:08.400 we're not allowed to bring in our own security. If your security is private, credentialed, and has a

00:08:16.460 badge and officially sworn in by, you know, an official police agency, you can, they can escort you to your

00:08:26.680 seat on the field, but then they have to leave. So all of us that I know of, you know, all of our

00:08:34.960 people, we all have security, especially now. And so they have to stand in the tunnel and the Secret

00:08:43.240 Service is going to protect the floor. I mean, they're protecting the whole building, but everybody

00:08:48.160 is under Secret Service protection on the floor. I don't know how many people are on the floor, but

00:08:53.020 that's the field is going to be done just by the dignitaries. Then the rest of the stadium is full

00:08:59.740 of the regular folk. And when I say regular folk, I mean, you could be sitting next to really big names

00:09:06.120 in the stadium because I know people that aren't sitting on the floor that are huge. I mean, the

00:09:13.860 the, the, the, the intellectual, spiritual, uh, and political powerhouse that is, I mean, this is

00:09:24.720 historic in so many ways. They're saying you, uh, it opens at seven, the doors open at seven. Um, I think

00:09:33.580 a prayer service starts at eight or nine. That'll go until about 11. The official thing begins at 11,

00:09:40.780 and I'm talking Pacific time, uh, begins at 11. Uh, they're saying, I think it goes till two or

00:09:47.360 three, maybe two o'clock. Um, and then they're saying it could take three hours to get out of

00:09:55.160 the stadium, not in out of the stadium might take three hours. Uh, that is like, I've never seen

00:10:04.800 anything like it. Yeah. Glenn, uh, on the speakers list that you mentioned, a couple of things that

00:10:09.600 really indicate Charlie Kirk and who he was, I think out of those, that speaker list.

00:10:15.200 Yeah. One is, as we all know, inside this white house, inside the conservative movement right now,

00:10:19.820 there are a lot of different factions, right? There's, you know, you know, the RFK, you know,

00:10:25.480 movement is totally different than, you know, several, like it's all throughout there. Um,

00:10:30.260 the fact that every group is represented widely there, uh, shows the sort of coalition building

00:10:38.920 that, that Charlie Kirk did. He was friends with everybody. He talked to everybody, even when he

00:10:44.000 disagreed with them, he'd be respectful and he'd cheer you on. I mean, there's so many people that

00:10:48.520 have released messages about how they've went through a tough time and Charlie was always there

00:10:53.680 for them, even if he wasn't maybe exactly aligned with every little bit of their politics. Um, and I,

00:11:00.660 that is a really fascinating part of this. And the second part I thought was interesting was Susie

00:11:05.140 Wiles, who a fascinating person to be speaking at that. If you think about her, she's not the most

00:11:11.840 media, you know, forward person. She's not the person you'd think of as like the biggest personality

00:11:17.500 or the biggest name on that list. She's a powerhouse. 1.00

00:11:20.380 So she's a powerhouse and she's also central to the operation, right? That it shows how central

00:11:26.280 Charlie was to the white house and how connected he was and how closely he was working with them

00:11:32.200 on a day-to-day basis.

00:11:33.840 So I'm surprised and maybe this is being covered and I, I wish there was more of it. Um, uh, I suppose

00:11:40.640 this is being covered, um, prior to the event because they're doing worship service prior to, but I'm,

00:11:48.200 I'm shocked that there, that there isn't a, and I don't even know who this person is. I mean, I,

00:11:53.840 I have my own opinions, but you know, whoever the Billy Graham is of the, of the day, you know,

00:12:01.280 um, that that's there, nobody like that is speaking because it was so central to who he is.

00:12:07.560 Um, I am surprised at that. I know there's going to be prayers and everything else, but

00:12:11.940 to not have a, a Billy Graham style speaker is, is interesting to me again, maybe covered,

00:12:19.720 you know, um, it was definitely going to be covered prior to the event at the event, but

00:12:26.100 any coverage nationwide is going to start at 11 AM. Um, now maybe they'll be checking in

00:12:32.780 and out. I'm sure they will, you know, um, uh, like a pregame if you want to look at it

00:12:39.140 that way. Um, but the pregame is not, you know, it's not the game. And I'm, I'm, I'm surprised

00:12:44.860 that, um, that isn't me just because of who Charlie was.

00:12:49.360 And we don't have all the details right of everything they're going to do. I would assume

00:12:51.700 his pastor is probably going to be speaking as well. And someone who is very, very important

00:12:55.800 to Charlie. We'll, we'll see, uh, how I will tell you though, but being at TP USA, God is

00:13:00.900 everywhere. I mean, the people that I have met at TP USA this week, and I've seen, uh, you can

00:13:07.680 just see it in their eyes. You know, I, I'm, I'm, I'm halfway convinced. I only say this

00:13:12.620 because nobody knows, nobody has any idea. Um, but I'm, I'm halfway convinced that the,

00:13:18.760 um, the mark of the beast is going to be actually more like just looking somebody in the eye.

00:13:26.240 You know, you, you, you, you can feel it when you look at somebody in the eye and they have

00:13:30.260 the spirit of Christ all over them. They just feel different. They look different. You can see

00:13:35.680 it in their eyes. At least I feel like I can, you can see it. Um, and, uh, and this campus

00:13:42.060 has the mark of the good side all over. You look at people in the eyes, uh, this week and

00:13:49.240 you can see it and you can feel it. It's really amazing.

00:13:52.120 Yeah. That was one of the things that, you know, I was only dropping in, you know, for 24

00:13:55.900 hours, but really impressed by the people at TP USA, you know, who, some of whom we've met

00:14:01.560 over the years, I'd never been to the campus before, but in the middle of all of this,

00:14:06.640 the way they're dealing with this really gives you beyond just the respect for Charlie and

00:14:12.500 all the things that you'd expect out of a moment like this really gives you hope for

00:14:16.760 what they're doing there. Uh, the, the hope for the movement, hope for what Charlie's vision

00:14:21.480 was, um, they are, they're, they are dedicated and somehow are not at all thwarted by this.

00:14:29.400 They are strengthened, uh, which is incredible. I only really strong, amazing people can handle

00:14:35.880 this type of thing that way. Uh, I will tell you if you're, if you're a praying person, pray

00:14:40.920 for them really hard in the next couple of weeks, because we've all kind of been sitting

00:14:46.160 for a, what is it? Uh, Shiva is that, is that what it's called in the Jewish? You know, you

00:14:51.860 come and you sit with people, I think for the first week, um, you know, of the, uh, after

00:14:58.340 the death and you just come and you sit with the family. Um, and that's kind of what we've

00:15:04.800 all been doing. If you just kind of been here with the TP USA family, kind of just sitting

00:15:08.600 with them and, and listening to them and talking to them and making sure they know that they're

00:15:12.780 not alone. But if you've been through a family funeral, uh, of somebody big in the family,

00:15:18.960 everybody goes home. And that's when you say, I'm worried about mom. I'm worried about mom.

00:15:23.460 Cause now everybody's now she's just at home alone, you know, and she's back to her old routine.

00:15:29.200 And, and, uh, that's when mind games can start playing with you. So really pray for,

00:15:33.860 for them, uh, in the coming weeks. Uh, it's, it's nuts. It's nuts.

00:15:42.780 Uh, by the way, on this topic, I have an announcement to make on Monday. I'll be making

00:15:47.460 it, uh, on Monday in conjunction with TP USA. Uh, so make sure you're listening, uh, to the

00:15:54.440 broadcast. I would imagine Erica is going to talk about, you know, she's just been made CEO

00:16:00.760 of TP USA and, um, uh, you know, her, her mother was a, uh, was a working mom. And so she was raised

00:16:13.820 by a really powerful, uh, working mother. And, uh, you know, this is for Erica to share at some

00:16:21.640 point. So I don't want to get into any of the details, but, um, she was talking to me about how

00:16:26.840 Charlie shared absolutely everything with her and that he, I think, I don't know how she would

00:16:33.980 feel, but, um, I got this impression kind of from talking to her, um, the way, the things that they

00:16:41.480 were talking about before he went out on this tour, I think he might have known, I mean, had a good

00:16:47.280 inkling, um, and might've known. Um, and he left her really prepared, like in shocking ways,

00:16:54.640 left her prepared for this. So TP USA has a strong direction that will still be coming for Charlie

00:17:01.800 Kirk, uh, in for years, literally years from now, he prepared her for things. It's, it's,

00:17:09.700 I hope she talks about it. Um, because it's, uh, it's amazing how much foresight this, this guy had,

00:17:16.540 I was going to say this kid, he's still a kid to me. Yeah. God, it's just so difficult to take.

00:17:23.640 And it's like, I, you know, I go back and forth. Like I, you know, I've seen all these videos of,

00:17:28.320 of the family and Erica and Charlie together with the kids. And it's still so hard to watch. I, I,

00:17:36.480 I go back and forth from just being really sad about it. Uh, and also just really impressed by

00:17:41.900 her and the way she's handled this so far. And you talk to people around her that know her and

00:17:48.760 kind of the last thing on their mind is whether or not TP USA will succeed, right? Like they,

00:17:56.180 they're entirely confident that she can do this, which is great. I mean, that's, you know, you,

00:18:02.820 you know, Glenn, when you have a key person like that, uh, who is no longer with an organization,

00:18:07.800 you never know what's going to happen. I mean, how many times have we seen great organizations

00:18:11.500 that have turned, you know, the wrong way. Apple, Apple, Apple. Yeah. I mean, Disney,

00:18:18.300 it would be the one that popped to my mind right away. You don't know what's going to happen after

00:18:22.660 that. That does not seem to be a worry at all, uh, by the people who really know Erica and the

00:18:27.720 other, other people in leadership there. And that is a, again, these, you're looking for the,

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00:20:17.780 You know, it says an awful lot about the left that they're so concerned about Jimmy Kimmel. And now

00:20:36.840 Jimmy Kimmel is the victim in this Charlie Kirk thing. It just speaks volumes to me. They're now

00:20:43.540 calling Stephen Colbert a martyr. Um, it's, it's, it's really gross and offensive. Um, and, and the

00:20:51.860 reason why Jimmy Kimmel, um, I'm glad that he was fired, uh, was the fact that he didn't apologize for

00:21:00.100 complete false information. All he had to do is apologize for it. He gave false information and now

00:21:07.440 word is he's already found another job and he's going to double down. He said, this is lit a fire

00:21:13.060 under him and he's going to double down. We are being sorted. It's not like you're, you're realizing,

00:21:20.460 uh, oh my gosh, look at how many bad people there are because they've all suddenly started to be bad.

00:21:25.800 No, you're just noticing now the people who have been, been quiet. They're now being exposed. Their

00:21:32.600 own actions are exposing them. And this is the great sifting. This is the great sorting that is going

00:21:39.840 on. Um, this is, it should be expected and is a good thing. You now know who the people are that,

00:21:48.000 that, uh, celebrate death. We, we knew it, you know, after, uh, October 7th, we saw the people

00:21:55.640 that immediately started celebrating the death of, you know, the raping of children and the burning

00:22:01.220 of families and just horrible atrocities. We now know who those people are that celebrate that kind

00:22:07.680 of death. We know the people who celebrate abortion, shout your abortion. This is just a continuing of

00:22:14.560 the sorting and the exposing of who people really are. And, um, just, just know. And, and I think

00:22:22.840 it's a really good thing. I, I, I like to know who my enemy is. Um, and I can't say enemy. I'd like to

00:22:30.600 know those who are, um, those, those who are so misguided, so misinformed and so on the wrong track

00:22:40.060 that they have made me an enemy. Um, they're not my enemies. They're enemies of God and God's

00:22:46.720 principles and freedom. And God will sort all that out. We just have to stand up for what we know is

00:22:52.260 right and never, ever, uh, give in. Um, but the conspiracies that are going around, they're now

00:22:59.320 saying that Charlie Kirk's own people killed him. It's reprehensible what is going on. It's just

00:23:06.140 reprehensible. And all that has to be done is you to know what the truth is, be very vocal about it.

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00:25:08.480 Let me start with, uh, actually Sarah, I want to start with cut two. Um, I want to start with something

00:25:13.320 good, um, that will show you that there is decency, uh, out on the left. And I don't know how to square

00:25:19.440 this in my head right now. Uh, rain Wilson, who, um, you know, played Dwight on the office. He's a

00:25:27.720 lefty, but he's always seemed like a decent guy, at least to me. He's always seemed like, you know,

00:25:33.460 a little out there, but, uh, and you know, we don't vote the same, but he seems like he really wants to

00:25:39.500 be a decent guy and he tries to be a decent guy and he preaches. We should all be decent to

00:25:43.200 each other. Um, now somebody who I don't feel that way about is Mark Ruffalo. Um, and Mark is,

00:25:51.420 is never the guy who seems to be trying to be a decent guy. He is a bomb thrower, at least in my

00:25:57.620 opinion. Um, here he is, uh, rain Wilson on his podcast with Mark Ruffalo. Listen to this country

00:26:06.960 is being torn apart in so many different ways. While I didn't agree with his ideas,

00:26:12.780 shooting someone that we disagree with, even if they're vociferous and loud and out there is

00:26:18.900 so colossally wrongheaded. I spoke to a couple of, uh, let's say some liberal friends last night at an

00:26:30.580 event and they were like, you won't find me shedding any tears. And someone else was like,

00:26:35.520 oh, well, there was a little bit of a kind of a good riddance thing. And it's like, guys, no,

00:26:39.960 yeah, I know. No, we cannot think or talk that way at all. That is not okay. So dangerous, man.

00:26:46.860 Um, that's really good. And I believe rain. I, I, I don't know how to, I don't know how to put it

00:26:54.240 together with what I know from Mark Ruffalo, but hopefully he means that. So Mark, uh, actually

00:27:00.360 chimes in a little bit later. And of course he shifts towards shifts the conversation to gun

00:27:04.360 control, which was so frustrating because there was actually a human conversation going on for a

00:27:08.340 little while, but then Mark shifts it back to gun control. He talks about these weapons of war,

00:27:12.840 of course, that are only designed to kill people. He clearly doesn't even know what was used as a

00:27:18.600 hunting rifle. Yeah. This was not a weapon of war. No, this was a hunting rifle. This was a

00:27:23.920 old style hunting, old school. Yeah. Like my understanding is it's legal in like almost every

00:27:29.980 country, even with restrictive gun. Oh yeah. Like this is a bolt action rifle. This is a,

00:27:35.440 this was something that they used in world war one. Okay. And before, I mean, as soon as we had 0.76

00:27:41.920 any kind of modern firearm with a bolt action, with something with, you know, slams into the back

00:27:49.180 of the bullet to set off the, uh, the fuse and the igniter that the, that that's how old this gun

00:27:56.660 is. This isn't a modern weapon of war. Um, it doesn't take a modern weapon of war. You want to

00:28:03.300 kill somebody, you can kill them. The, the, it's the society that is so sick and, and how do people miss 1.00

00:28:11.480 this? How to honestly, how are people missing that? This is a societal problem. This isn't a gun

00:28:17.800 problem. This is a societal problem and you want to see it. Here's, here's Ilan Omar. Uh, she was at

00:28:25.020 a town hall event in Minnesota and she's talking to a concerned citizen, uh, about the Charlie Kirk

00:28:32.520 situation. Here she is. Cut three. 0.99

00:28:34.520 I asked in the interview we had this week with, um,

00:28:38.920 Maudie Hassan, I think his name is, you said that those who disagree with you and may have a 0.99

00:28:44.900 different open view, world view are, in your words, full of s**t. 0.96

00:28:50.600 So I'm just wondering, which approach is better to call upon those who disagree with you to

00:28:57.600 come to open debate and dialogue or to say that those who disagree with you and have a different 0.86

00:29:03.600 world view are full of s**t. So you must have selective hearing, sir. Um, because I said that the people 0.88

00:29:11.600 who were full of s**t are the people who were saying that Kirk was civil. 0.87

00:29:18.600 Thank you, boss. 0.95

00:29:20.600 No, that's true.

00:29:22.600 The person who called for public execution of people he disagree with is not civil. The person who said you are a

00:29:31.600 black woman, you lack the ability to process thoughts, it's not civil. The person who said because I am 1.00

00:29:38.600 Muslim, I cannot be in this country because I want to destroy Western society, it's not civil. 1.00

00:29:45.600 The person who said I can't. 0.99

00:29:48.600 Stop, stop. I'm just, I don't, I don't want to play you. I just want to show you this is the Jimmy Kimmel

00:29:54.600 disease. This is somebody who is just making quotes up, just saying things that are absolutely

00:30:00.600 untrue. That is that there, there's no basis of reality in that. And so, um, I would say kindly,

00:30:08.600 uh, to this woman who I believe, uh, married her brother, um, that she is wildly misinformed

00:30:18.600 and she can either inform herself or she should face some ramifications of smearing somebody.

00:30:25.600 This, this is, this is lawsuit territory. Um, you, you, you just can't say these things about people

00:30:32.600 that are so grossly wrong. This isn't, this isn't just, uh, a difference of opinion on how to read

00:30:40.600 it. He didn't say those things. He didn't say, say those things. Uh, and it's, it's sick. It's really,

00:30:48.600 truly sick. Do we have, but this is what I expect from, you know, some of these places, you know,

00:30:53.600 Michigan, Minnesota, do we have all the audio from two days ago, Sarah? Um, this is, this is the mayor

00:31:01.540 of Dearborn. Now listen to this. This is a city council meeting and the mayor of Dearborn is sitting

00:31:07.720 there listening to a concerned citizen. They just renamed a street after a guy who was, what was his

00:31:15.000 role? Do you remember? I believe he was Hezbollah or one of those groups. Right. Okay. So, um, it just

00:31:21.540 named him, just named this boulevard after a guy from Hezbollah. Okay. And this guy shows up peaceful

00:31:29.940 at a town city council meeting in Dearborn, Michigan. I want you to hear what he says and

00:31:35.040 then listen to the mayor's response. Uh, I mean, Hezbollah, um, you know, bombed, uh, the embassy

00:31:42.920 in, uh, in Beirut and, uh, including many Americans. So, uh, I just feel that's quite inappropriate.

00:31:48.520 You are an Islamophobe. And although you live here, I want you to know as mayor, you are not

00:31:52.960 welcome here. And the day you move out of the city will be the day that I launch a parade

00:31:57.520 celebrating the fact that you moved out of the city because you are not somebody who believes in

00:32:01.600 coexistence. Excuse me. You know who doesn't believe in coexistence? Hezbollah. Hezbollah does 0.91

00:32:10.260 not believe in coexistence. You are a racist and Islamophobe because you stand against Hezbollah. 0.99

00:32:18.500 What kind of America are you making in Dearborn, Michigan? When your mayor can get away with 0.99

00:32:27.320 saying that, and there is not an uprising to oust and recall that mayor, you are no longer

00:32:34.900 living in an America that I even recognize to say that you are not welcome because you stand

00:32:41.820 against Hezbollah and the mayor will lead a parade the day you leave town. You're not welcome here. 1.00

00:32:50.480 I've never heard an American mayor say anything like that. Ever. I've never heard an American mayor

00:32:57.380 say anything like that, especially at a city council meeting where you have people coming and that's their

00:33:03.260 job to sit there and listen to the people and the voice of the people and take it under advisement.

00:33:08.500 To respond that way is chilling. Absolutely chilling. Now let me go to cut four. This is

00:33:19.320 Brendan Carr. Brendan Carr is the commissioner for the FCC. He's a friend of the program.

00:33:24.580 Um, I generally agree with him and I want to, I want to parse this one out because this is all about

00:33:31.660 Jimmy Kimmel and what happened to Jimmy Kimmel. And there is, you know, uh, ABC was looking at

00:33:38.480 replacing Jimmy Kimmel months ago. Um, they're using this as a convenient way to get rid of him. Okay.

00:33:45.320 Cause they were looking for a replacement because he has, he has zero ratings, zero ratings in the,

00:33:51.860 in the 18, what is it? 1849 demo. He had like 150,000 people watching lower than that. Oh,

00:33:58.080 that's that. Yeah. It's lower than 129,000, 129,000, 129,000, 129,000. That, that is insane.

00:34:06.780 That is the ABC television network and 129,000 people. We get that on, on some of our

00:34:14.820 YouTube videos for the love of people. And to be clear, Glenn, those that's lower than the

00:34:18.900 ratings that we had when we were doing a show on CNN headline news. I mean, it's unbelievable how

00:34:25.800 bad those numbers are. Okay. So they're just use ABC is just using this as cover. Uh, and he is

00:34:32.780 getting worse and worse and worse. But, um, so the, the sponsors, the local affiliates and ABC wanted

00:34:40.020 this to happen, but they're blaming it on Brendan Carr. Now I wanted to listen to this because

00:34:44.600 Pat, I heard Pat talking about this today on the place. And, uh, he said, we can't go this way.

00:34:50.840 I want to listen to it again. Because when I, what I heard Brendan say, I was like, I think I

00:34:55.320 actually agree with him, but I'm not sure. So let's listen to it again. Here's cut four.

00:34:59.960 Look again, broadcast TV is different. We're on a cable show right now. You don't have an FCC license.

00:35:05.800 You don't have an obligation to serve the public interest podcast. Don't either stand up comedians,

00:35:10.840 whether they're on lots of forms of communications don't and Kimmel is free to do that. But if you

00:35:15.880 have a broadcast, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop and pause it right there.

00:35:20.520 First, let's agree. That's true. Now you don't have to agree with what the FCC does. You don't

00:35:26.340 have to agree with the regulation on broadcast television that happened because of FDR. Um,

00:35:33.420 however, that is the law. It is the law. They, they only censor broadcast television. That's why

00:35:41.740 when you're watching something on, you know, on NBC, you're watching, I don't know, quantum leap.

00:35:47.340 It just feels like an old TV show. Cause it's so, so sanitized and so safe. That's because it's

00:35:53.140 regulated by the federal government like it or not. That is the law. If you don't like it,

00:35:58.260 let's change the law. But the law is that there, there are community standards, community standards,

00:36:05.720 not national standards, community standards. Now listen to what he says next.

00:36:11.980 Kimmel is free to do that. But if you have a broadcast TV license, that means that you have

00:36:17.240 something that very few people have, and you're excluding other people from having access to that

00:36:22.720 valuable public resource. And it comes with an obligation to serve the public interest. And again,

00:36:26.940 over the years, there's been a rule in place of the FCC that local TV stations get to preempt

00:36:32.720 programming that they don't think meets the needs of their communities. But recently these national

00:36:37.440 programmers, ABC, Disney, Comcast, NBC, they've been exercising outsized control and power over those

00:36:45.540 local TV stations. And there's been no pushback. And this is a very significant moment because local

00:36:50.660 broadcasters are now pushing back on national programmers for the first time, uh, that I can think of

00:36:56.620 in modern history. Okay. So what, so listen to what he's saying here. He's saying that you have,

00:37:03.300 and I, I disagree with this. Actually, I don't like the FCC. I never have liked the FCC. I've done

00:37:08.800 this for almost 50 years. Believe me, I have my experience with the FCC, but the FCC regulates what

00:37:14.860 he said. You have, if you have a broadcast license, you have access to people, something that everybody

00:37:19.980 doesn't have. And that is the airspace. There are only so many frequencies available. We don't need

00:37:26.300 any of that anymore. As long as the internet stays alive. Okay. You, you, we needed that before there

00:37:33.060 was internet. So you could broadcast something to the whole country or to your local community.

00:37:38.540 So you have that frequency, you know, 95, five, uh, on FM, you have that frequency and that is licensed

00:37:47.260 to you as long as you uphold community standards and you are serving the public. Okay. Now the next

00:37:54.800 thing he says is you have the right to preempt things nationally. If it doesn't serve your local

00:38:01.700 interest. Now he gets into something here that I'm not aware of. And so this is where it could get

00:38:06.660 fuzzy on me. He says now they have outsized power. The national networks have outsized power and it's

00:38:14.100 the first time local broadcast has pushed back on that outsized power. The license does not belong

00:38:21.160 to the networks. The license belongs to the local stations. What he went on to say is I am trying to

00:38:28.460 empower the local stations. That is where the power should be. Not at the corporate level, not at the

00:38:36.640 uh, national level, not at the network level. The ones that hold the license. They're the ones who

00:38:44.540 have the responsibility to serve the public. And if that company says, I don't want to carry this show

00:38:50.500 anymore. I want to preempt this show. That's where the power should be. Not with the government,

00:38:57.000 but with the local license holder. I don't know what the problem is on that. Um, but we'll get into that

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00:42:18.460 We have Selena Zito on. She has been traveling the country as usual and being in neighborhoods and 1.00

00:42:24.020 talking to people. And she has quite the observation about Charlie Kirk and what's really happening in

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00:44:30.420 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. I saw Selina Zito, who is a friend of the program, one of

00:44:36.380 the best journalists, I think, out there, because she actually lives in the communities. When

00:44:40.060 she does reporting, she never travels to anything, you know, on the highway. She's always driving

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00:44:54.880 minutes sitting on the sideline of a kid's flag football practice. I don't think cable news experts

00:45:00.380 or many Democrats have any idea of how profoundly impacted suburban moms are over what happened to 1.00

00:45:07.040 Charlie Kirk and how much they have noticed how poorly many have behaved. I wanted to get Selina on.

00:45:12.460 She joins us here in 60 seconds. We have that and so much more to talk about today. We're live from Phoenix.

00:45:19.340 Thanks to our host, KFYI, for putting us up here in the studios of KFYI in Phoenix, Arizona. I'll be back

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00:47:17.680 Welcome, Selena. How are you? Hey, Glenn. How are you? I'm okay.

00:47:24.060 Yeah, it's been a really tough nine days. Can you believe it's been nine days? It feels like it's

00:47:30.020 been six months. Yeah, it's, you know, there's sometimes I wake up and like, oh, that didn't

00:47:36.800 happen, right? I jumped it, right? It didn't, it couldn't have happened because Charlie was such

00:47:42.940 a life force. Uh, the first time I met him, I think he was like 18 years old and I was just so

00:47:50.660 struck by this, by this energy and, and this, this aspirational quality he had. And, and one of the

00:47:59.900 things I think you've done really well and, uh, and it is important to note about Charlie, he never did

00:48:07.580 this for himself. This was never about him. It was always about bringing people together for,

00:48:13.760 to be part of something bigger than self. I think a lot of people in trying to understand Charlie have

00:48:20.540 missed that, but you haven't. And, and I think that's, that I think that's real, but that's a

00:48:27.000 quality. A lot of people don't, you know, possess, right? There's always an ulterior motive.

00:48:33.460 There wasn't with Charlie. There never was. It was about faith and family.

00:48:39.480 Yeah. He just wanted to make the world a better place. Um, you know, he had his own ideas how to

00:48:44.580 do that, but it was never about hogging the spotlight. It was, he always shared the spotlight.

00:48:50.240 He always shared. We, you didn't matter where he was, you know, I called him, uh, for some advice

00:48:56.240 on something, uh, I don't know, last year, I think. And I called him, he was in the oval with the

00:49:02.040 president, picked up the phone. Hey, Glenn, what's happening? And, and I said, uh, Hey,

00:49:06.640 do you have a second? He said, yeah, I'm just with the president or just working on some stuff.

00:49:09.720 And I'm like, I'll call you back. And he's like, no, no, no. What do you need? I mean,

00:49:13.980 that's the kind of guy he was. It really, you know, it's amazing. Um, you, you tweeted something.

00:49:21.520 I just spent 90 minutes sitting on the sideline of the kids flag football practice. And I don't think

00:49:25.740 cable news experts or Democrats have any idea how profoundly impacted suburban moms over what 1.00

00:49:30.380 happened to Charlie Kirk and how they may have, uh, and how much they have noticed how poorly many

00:49:34.980 have behaved. What'd you mean by that? So this is something that I, um, that's in art, my book

00:49:42.800 Butler in that, you know, after the president was shot, right. I went out and I saw people that I did

00:49:52.360 not expect to see with Trump shirts on or Trump hats or put them in their yard. Right. And, and I

00:49:59.460 remember Ray, I interviewed people like that. That's in my book. And, and, and, and also in

00:50:05.920 my book was all these young people that kept showing up in droves to his events. And it was

00:50:12.580 Charlie, it was Trump. What happened to him? It was also Charlie. And, and so the other day I was

00:50:20.280 first, I went to a revival. I don't know if I sent that to you. I went to a revival in the city of

00:50:27.280 Pittsburgh in a majority of black historic neighborhood called the Hill district. And

00:50:34.000 there were kids coming from the bus loads on Sunday just to, to witness and to, and to celebrate

00:50:43.260 Charlie and his life, but also to celebrate their faith with, with, with a boldness, um, that,

00:50:50.260 that has been inspired by Charlie. But, um, to get back to your original question, I'm sitting

00:50:57.180 on the sidelines, my little grandson's flag football game, and I'm listening to these, these

00:51:03.260 moms over, over, over hearing their conversations. And it was all about how my profession has behaved,

00:51:10.920 um, in reaction to, um, Charlie's murder and, but also how they've been invigorated and, and, and

00:51:22.120 activated into, I mean, three of them had freedom shirts on, you know, and I was like, whoa, something

00:51:29.960 is happening. This is, this is very real. This is very tangible. And my profession isn't seeing it

00:51:36.840 on paper. These women should be Democrats. They're suburban, they're college educated, 1.00

00:51:44.080 right? I mean, they're the demo that you X and they live and they live in suburbs. They're the demo

00:51:50.080 you expect, um, Democrats to, um, for them to go towards the Democrats. And instead they were talking

00:51:58.060 about, I can't believe that he was murdered. I can't believe how they're covering this.

00:52:03.480 I want to get my kids out of school. I want to homeschool them. Several of them had just gone

00:52:09.060 away for the weekend because they couldn't handle the way that things were being talked about. And

00:52:14.540 there is an awakening going on. I don't think my profession or Democrats understand just in the past

00:52:27.980 four days in places like Somerset, Pennsylvania, the city of Pittsburgh, um, uh, Shippingsburg,

00:52:35.240 Pennsylvania, Hemfield, Pennsylvania, Ligonier, Pennsylvania, hundreds and hundreds of hundreds

00:52:41.200 of people have just been showing up in their little town squares, right? These are small Pennsylvania

00:52:47.180 towns, most of them with, you know, gazebos in the middle, right? And, and, um, the,

00:52:52.640 um, with just candles and just they're praying and, and they're, a lot of them are really,

00:53:00.360 really young. And, and, you know, people talked about gun when you and I were growing up, right?

00:53:06.700 The counterculture that were the coal people, right? This, that's the counterculture. We're 1.00

00:53:12.800 looking at the counterculture and it's not, and it's people of faith and purpose. It's not,

00:53:18.780 it's, it's not the bad guys. How do you think people are, you know, it, two questions. One,

00:53:27.720 I see these polls that have just recently come out that are shocking, that show young people 1.00

00:53:32.880 are much more authoritarian, uh, than any of their Gen X and even Gen Z, um, counterparts that this,

00:53:42.540 this, uh, this new, uh, generation has been indoctrinated from the beginning and they are

00:53:51.560 starting to look at authoritarian, uh, rule. How do you square that? Do you, do you believe those

00:53:58.440 polls? Well, it's not that I don't believe the polls. It's where is the polling coming from?

00:54:05.420 Are you pulling in New York city? Are you pulling in LA Chicago? Are you pulling on college campuses?

00:54:12.800 Which by the way, would be the easiest way to do it if you're a pollster, right? And you want to

00:54:17.480 capture a certain demographic. Um, but that's not the experience I have had. And we have to remember

00:54:25.560 Glenn that oftentimes what we see coming from our cultural curators, meaning a big media, legacy media,

00:54:33.600 media, right? Um, corporations, institutions, academia, um, uh, a lot of that is coming from,

00:54:41.840 you know, the super zip codes in the country, except in the super zip codes in the country,

00:54:46.860 right? Where the, where wealth and power is, is, is, is at the center of everything. Those places don't

00:54:54.320 decide elections. Those people, those places don't make what makes this country go and

00:55:03.580 move. And, and so I think that if you're pulling, you're not pulling from Somerset, Pennsylvania,

00:55:11.680 then you're not getting the full breadth of understanding what is happening in this country.

00:55:18.040 It was, it was, I remember last year for when writing Butler and thinking, nobody is seeing what's

00:55:25.520 happening. They're, they're really not, they're not understanding how, what a sea change is happening

00:55:31.760 in this country. And, and I'm standing in the exact same place again, only it's bigger, it's broader.

00:55:39.820 So I'm looking at the reaction of, uh, those on the left last week and this week to Charlie Kirk.

00:55:48.760 And then I'm watching how I read a story today where Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel were literally

00:55:55.660 called martyrs. Um, and, and, you know, I've been in this business enough. I can read ratings.

00:56:03.980 I know what advertisers, if you don't have advertising, if you're not getting sales and

00:56:09.360 you're costing more than it costs to put the show on, you're not there long. Um, and I really believe

00:56:17.200 ABC, I mean, CBS, they fired Stephen Colbert because it was costing them twice as much to produce than

00:56:23.420 what they were making. That doesn't last unless you're in a communist society. Um, the thing with

00:56:28.560 Jimmy Kimmel is they were trying to find ways to get rid of him. And I think ABC saw this opportunity

00:56:35.100 and was like, yep, yep. Community standards, they, you know, they want them off. And so they're getting

00:56:38.780 rid of him. Um, and now Jimmy, the word is, is that Jimmy is really upset about this. And so he's

00:56:44.500 doubling down and he's already looking for a new job and he's got one and he's going to go, you know,

00:56:49.460 tell the public what really is going on and, uh, and double down on his hatred for Trump and,

00:56:54.760 and everything else. I, I see the reaction of this Jimmy Kimmel thing. And I think I, I can't believe

00:57:03.080 the American people are buying into this and that this is helping the people on the left at all.

00:57:10.000 No, no, it's not. And, and they're, and they're reporting this from their bubble, right? Um,

00:57:19.060 just to use a cliche, it is a bubble. Um, this is the same day they all talk to and see the same

00:57:25.900 people all the time. And, and so, you know, nobody's going to tell them, Oh, you're seeing

00:57:32.060 this in the wrong way. Look, markets change all the time. You know that. And I know that because we're

00:57:39.540 in a business, it's always fluctuating, but so are American people where were like, think about the

00:57:47.500 steel worker in the 1970s. Did anybody come rushing to save their job when it wasn't making money for

00:57:54.100 the big company? No. Did any, did any reporter plop in and say, how do you feel? Are you mad? Are you

00:58:01.760 angry? No, they didn't. I'm not saying I'm, I lived it. So I know they didn't. Right. But

00:58:09.420 to, to lift up and celebrate someone who is, um, who is also not meeting the, the, the moment with,

00:58:18.380 with the ratings and, and say, well, you should still have a job. Well, you know what? Those

00:58:22.700 steel workers still thought they should have a job too. Right. But you, you weren't making the money.

00:58:29.060 And, and also more importantly, this is the thing that really bothers me. It's the affiliates

00:58:35.700 that said, we're not doing this anymore. It is the affiliates. They have the most power because

00:58:41.380 they're the ones that need to make money. These are, these are, these are stations across the

00:58:47.600 middle of a country, right? Where, where, where, um, while DC and New York don't think those people

00:58:53.600 have much power, actually they turned out to, to have power, not just in, in the election,

00:58:59.020 but also in this, in deciding what is right for our culture. And these affiliates said, yeah, we're,

00:59:06.640 we're not doing this in particular because Kimmel wasn't even going to apologize the next day.

00:59:14.160 You know, he was, he was, he wanted to come out and clarify. That's not an apology.

00:59:21.780 Um, I want to ask you to hold for just 60 seconds. I have to do a commercial and then I'm going to

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00:59:32.560 awakening, you know, we felt this, you know, for 10 days, 12 days after nine 11, and then things went

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01:01:43.520 15th, the awakening few see coming. Uh, and it's a great article that you can find online, but she's

01:01:49.760 talking about how people are coming to church by the bus loads and that there is an awakening that

01:01:54.720 is, that is here a revival, if you will. Is it real this time? Is it lasting this time? And what

01:02:00.900 should we look for, uh, in the future? What are the pitfalls? So we don't do what we did after

01:02:06.360 September 11th. So what, what is different about this moment and you know, we did come together

01:02:15.260 after September 11th. Um, but, uh, and to your point, it was also very brief. It was almost shocking to

01:02:23.200 the system. Um, how brief it was, but what wasn't a large part of coming together. It was, it was very

01:02:33.020 patriotic, but it didn't have a component of faith and purpose. We forgot to put that in there. And I

01:02:41.180 think that's, what's very different about what we're seeing today. I've been chronicling for the past

01:02:47.180 couple of years, how space has, uh, as expanded. I see it. Uh, I've done several stories on it with

01:02:54.760 yet in particular among young people, um, about my little country church in Westmoreland County,

01:03:00.660 Pennsylvania has gone from, you know, maybe half full two years ago to out the door every Sunday.

01:03:07.720 And it's something that has not been, and, and, and, and I think a catalyst last year was when the

01:03:16.060 president was shot, right? That would, that was a big thing, but, but what, but Charlie was such an

01:03:23.380 influence. I feel like people don't understand how profoundly he influenced our young people.

01:03:30.180 And that's where our energy and power are coming from. And, and that's why I think this time is

01:03:37.300 very, very different. Um, I remember so, so vividly Glenn, you at that restoring America

01:03:46.000 event, uh, at, at, um, Oh gosh, where were we? We were in DC. Yeah. I'll never, it still gives me

01:03:55.880 chills every time I think about you talking about, Hey, there could be an eight or nine year old

01:04:00.000 kid here. That's the next George Washington. Yeah. And yes, but there's, there are other,

01:04:07.600 there are other young people out there. Oh, we have this, this event created this event created

01:04:14.080 thousands of those. Yes. They're everywhere. And they're bold with their face. That's the difference.

01:04:21.040 We weren't bold with our face, whatever your faith is, whatever, whatever you practice, it doesn't,

01:04:27.140 it actually doesn't even matter. Whatever your practice is, be bold with your faith. That's what

01:04:33.020 was missing after nine 11. Uh, thank you so much, Selena. I really appreciate it. Great to hear from

01:04:39.780 you. We'll talk again soon, hopefully under happier circumstances. God bless. That sounds great. Thanks,

01:04:44.740 Glenn. All right. Back in just a minute. Uh, Peter Duran is, uh, with us next. He has some facts to share

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01:06:44.560 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. 888-727-BECK is the phone number. Glenn is out in Arizona.

01:06:50.400 I'm going to be attending the memorial for Charlie Kirk on Sunday, and, uh, it's going to be an

01:06:57.180 incredible event. Uh, you know, I, I think a celebration of his life. I don't think it's

01:07:04.140 going to turn into, you know, Paul Wellstone, uh, in his memorial. It's not going to be anything

01:07:09.360 like that. Oh, wouldn't that be awful? Yeah. Wouldn't that be an awful thing? Yes. Um, all right.

01:07:14.880 I want to talk to Peter Duran. Um, he is, he was at the foundation of defense of democracies.

01:07:21.300 He's a senior fellow there. And, uh, he wants to tell us a little bit about America's enemies and

01:07:27.280 what they're trying to do and what they're hoping we will do. Peter, welcome to the program.

01:07:32.700 Thank you, Glenn. Good, uh, Glenn. Good to be here.

01:07:37.340 Um, Peter, tell me a little bit what our, who our enemies are and what they are trying to do

01:07:43.260 with this Charlie Kirk thing. Right. So Glenn, before we begin, I just want to express my thanks

01:07:49.460 to you, to Stu in the entire blaze network. We all learned about Charlie's murder with you and we

01:07:56.220 grieved with you and we lost, as you have said, the most important defender of civil rights in our

01:08:02.480 country. But Glenn, even as we were mourning foreign adversaries like Russia and China were trying to

01:08:10.060 exploit Charlie's death, a public murder like this witnessed around the world. Well, that was

01:08:15.240 not something that the Kremlin would overlook out of respect for Charlie and his family or the

01:08:19.840 Americans who grieved his loss. They mobilized Glenn to inject more anger and more confusion into our

01:08:27.060 public debate. So tell me, let's start with Alexander Dugan, a guy who I have been warning the nation

01:08:34.060 about for 10 or 15 years. I think he is extraordinarily dangerous. And, uh, he was at the center of some of

01:08:44.660 this. Was he not in Russia with Russia? That's correct. So even before we knew the identity of

01:08:51.800 the alleged, uh, shooter, the Russia, its media machine and Alexander Dugan were mobilizing to inject 0.60

01:09:01.160 their own ideas into our public debate. Dugan was trying to manipulate the grief and anger and loss

01:09:08.700 that Americans were feeling. As you pointed out, Glenn, Dugan wants the United States to be focused

01:09:16.000 internally so that Russia will have a free hand on the backstage. So what did he do? How was he

01:09:24.000 wish casting, if you will? Well, what Dugan did right out of the gate was to suppose that Charlie

01:09:32.460 Kirk's assassination was the beginning of a civil war in the United States. He tried to frame him.

01:09:39.540 I'm not mistaken. That's, that's actually a quote from him. That's a direct quote. Uh, and I say,

01:09:45.340 I, and I think you're right to point out he was wish casting because he was trying to stir up the

01:09:50.980 feelings of anger and confusion and loss that Americans had over Charlie's assassination.

01:09:58.020 And by injecting these ideas into our public discourse, Glenn, I have to say, it's a bit ironic

01:10:04.720 that Russia and China, who still lionized their communist roots. Well, these governments are

01:10:11.920 fundamentally, what they're trying to do is fundamentally incompatible with the vision that

01:10:17.820 Charlie Kirk had for the United States. And that's what got my attention because I realized,

01:10:23.020 oh, we are under attack right now in our information space. So tell me, what did he mean?

01:10:30.240 Cause I didn't understand this. I don't know if you saw this. He said the democratic party

01:10:33.680 was America's Ukraine. What does he mean by that? What he was trying to do is,

01:10:40.160 is to pit the Americans against each other. He was trying to insinuate that since Russia

01:10:46.860 is in a war with Ukraine, that Ukraine is the bad guy, so to speak in this, in this fight,

01:10:54.360 and that Americans who don't like Ukraine, who don't like Democrats should change how they view

01:11:01.760 what's happening. So he tried to link two unrelated things together. Glenn, a lot of this is irrational.

01:11:09.060 It doesn't make much sense, but that's the point. The Russians and the Chinese do not want us to, 1.00

01:11:15.240 let me say it this way. The Russian government and the Chinese government, they don't really care

01:11:21.320 if we accept one narrative or another. Their main goal is to pollute the information space

01:11:26.520 with more confusion, more narratives, more alternative facts, so that they will have a free hand

01:11:32.660 on the world stage. You know, it's amazing you say it that way because we know from, what was it,

01:11:39.100 the 2020 election, we also know it from the BLM uprisings, that they were, their bots were busy

01:11:45.320 taking both sides and ratcheting up both sides. You know, one Russian bot would be saying,

01:11:52.160 you know, all blacks are, you know, whatever. And then the others were, you know, whites were all 0.95

01:11:58.640 the bad guys. And it was the same source, but they were, they were taking and, and turning up the 0.97

01:12:05.840 vitriol and trying to get us to ignite even more than we already did.

01:12:11.860 That's right. And think about how many posts have you and I and others seen over the last week,

01:12:17.320 uh, on the, on, in the online space, how many times did we see something and it made us feel

01:12:22.600 more angry or more confused or more frustrated? Think about this, Glenn. A lot of times those,

01:12:28.480 those statements, those posts are being boosted by the bots. They are manipulating the algorithms

01:12:35.500 that feed information to us. Russia and China had become very good at this. And as you said correctly,

01:12:43.060 they don't really care, uh, about one side or the other. As long as we, uh, have knives at each

01:12:50.400 other's throats here in the United States, that's what they want to achieve. And that's why I have been

01:12:56.220 writing about this and warning about this, because I think more Americans need to understand

01:13:01.200 that our national debate isn't just between Americans. Russia and China are trying to change 0.69

01:13:07.660 how we talk to each other. Tell me about China. What specifically have they, have they been doing

01:13:13.340 the last nine days? Well, their algorithm, well, let me put it this way. Both Russia and China, 0.58

01:13:20.540 uh, they are in, they are very keen to make sure that the United States is divided, distracted,

01:13:29.020 and focused on the enemies within, so to speak. As long as we are, um, focused on each other,

01:13:38.360 China is happy. China is trying to put forward ideas that fundamentally conflict with

01:13:45.360 the worldview and the values that Charlie put forward, that he defended. And as you said,

01:13:52.040 Glenn, he was a civil rights champion and China doesn't want that. No, not at all. Um, please

01:14:00.140 keep us, uh, informed. Thank you so much, uh, Peter, for everything that you do. Please keep me

01:14:05.820 informed on anything that you're seeing happening. Um, because you are spot on by watching Dugan and

01:14:11.580 China, you are, you are on top of it. You are one of the few that is really watching, uh, what's

01:14:17.880 happening, especially from Dugan. I find him to be an, a terrifying, terrifying guy, um, that is,

01:14:24.100 is speaking almost, uh, like an antichrist, um, with some of the plans that he has and the, and the,

01:14:31.200 the doomsday view that he has about, you know, what has to happen to the world for it to fix itself.

01:14:37.460 So thank you, Peter. I appreciate it.

01:14:39.040 Thank you, Glenn. Um, you know, as I'm, I'm sitting here and I'm, I'm thinking about how

01:14:48.420 everybody's trying to pull us apart. I, I, I, I want to take you back again to Booth. Uh,

01:14:54.460 John Wilkes Booth killed Abraham Lincoln. You know, most people don't know. He tried to kill him

01:14:59.860 before he was at the theater. He tried to kill him at the second inaugural address in the vaults that

01:15:06.040 we have at Mercury one. Um, you know, we are collecting and, and really putting into what I

01:15:12.600 have said for 20 years are modern day clay pots. We are taking like, like the, um, uh, the nomads 0.75

01:15:21.620 did, uh, 2000, 3000 years ago when they knew the scriptures were being hunted. They, they took and

01:15:28.440 they rolled up all those scrolls and they put them in clay pots and stuffed them in the back of a cave.

01:15:32.420 So in the 1940s, this little shepherd boy comes and he throws a rock into a cave, expecting it to

01:15:37.640 hear the, hear the bounce off the back of the cave. Instead, he hears a crack of, of, of a clay pot.

01:15:44.120 He goes in, he finds the Dead Sea Scrolls. That's how we know that the scriptures are true. Um, and,

01:15:50.560 and are the same as they were a couple of thousand years ago is because somebody saved them. Um, and

01:15:56.800 that is kind of been the duty that I have felt the Lord has, has asked me to do is save some of the

01:16:03.200 stuff and put it in, in, in clay pots. So we have all kinds of historic things. And one thing I have

01:16:09.680 is the only picture of Abraham Lincoln and John Wilkes Booth in the same photograph. And it's the

01:16:17.100 second inaugural address and you can see Lincoln, but he's very blurry because he's given a speech and

01:16:23.080 he's moving. And remember, this is the time when, you know, you didn't move when you took a picture.

01:16:27.400 Um, and so he's very blurry, but up at the top, up the stairs, off to the right, you'll see right at

01:16:33.840 the corner of the steps of, of the Capitol, which was behind Lincoln. You see John Wilkes Booth and he

01:16:41.840 is crystal clear. He wasn't moving. He was just watching Lincoln. At the end of that address,

01:16:49.540 he went crazy and just wanted to kill, uh, Abraham Lincoln because he felt we can't have peace. 0.77

01:16:57.500 We can't have peace. What, what Lincoln said that set Booth off and he tried to kill him that day 0.90

01:17:03.340 with his own bare hands. He ran down the stairs. Luckily through divine providence, he tripped,

01:17:09.540 uh, and he fell, but he was running towards the president and he was going to kill him with his 0.98

01:17:14.760 bare hands. He trips, he falls in between Lincoln and a police officer. Lincoln continues to walk

01:17:22.860 on. The police officer grabs Booth by the back of the neck and pulls him up and it's going to ball

01:17:28.180 him out. Uh, and then he sees who he is now Booth at the time was like Leonardo DiCaprio. He was a

01:17:34.040 very, very famous actor. So he picks him up and he's like, Oh my gosh, Mr. Booth, are you okay? And he

01:17:39.720 said, yes, I'm sorry. I just, I just wanted to say thank you to the president. And, uh, I hope,

01:17:45.120 I hope I didn't hurt him. And he's like, Oh no, he, he went on. He was going to do it just out of

01:17:50.960 passion because what he wanted to, what he wanted was an end to this peace talk. He wanted, and he

01:17:58.460 really truly believed that by killing Abraham Lincoln, he would set the country, the North on fire.

01:18:05.600 And they would be so mad at the South that they would pick up war again. And this time the South

01:18:11.800 would win. He thought, okay, what set him off are the same words that should set us off onto the path

01:18:19.640 of what America actually did. And because I think these are the words that Charlie Kirk would be saying

01:18:25.800 to us now with malice toward none, this is going to be really hard. Remember, he's saying this after

01:18:32.040 the civil war, half a million dead, you know, the size of the population at the time, that is a

01:18:38.040 staggering number of people that were killed. Everybody was affected by the civil war. Everybody

01:18:44.200 had somebody in their family dead with malice toward none, with charity for all, with the firmness in

01:18:52.040 the right, as God gives us to see the right. Think of that with malice toward none charity for all.

01:18:59.380 He's talking about the people that just killed your family. With the firmness in the right,

01:19:03.920 stand up for what you know is right, as God gives you the vision of what is right. Meaning,

01:19:11.360 you may not be, but God's trying to show you this is what's right. So as you are revealed by God to

01:19:18.560 see the right, let us strive on to finish the work that we're in. Now you would think that's war

01:19:25.800 and finishing the war. He says to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who has borne the battle

01:19:36.340 and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace

01:19:44.640 amongst ourselves and with all nations. When the South surrendered, we had him. We had General Lee.

01:19:58.500 Now remember, the reason why Arlington Cemetery is where it is, is because they had all these dead

01:20:04.840 piling up. And at the top of that hill, if you've ever been to Washington, D.C., you look across the

01:20:10.660 river and there at the top of the hill is Arlington Cemetery, but there's this big like mausoleum

01:20:15.340 looking building there. That's General Lee's house. And so when they were looking for a place

01:20:21.620 to bury all the dead, somebody said, bury him in Lee's front yard. Let him know when he comes home

01:20:28.340 what he did. That's Arlington Cemetery today. That's General Lee's house and his back and front yard.

01:20:35.980 Okay. What Lincoln said after the surrender was, let him up. Let him up easily, easy, and befriend him.

01:20:49.520 We've made peace. Let him know there is forgiveness. Let him know that we are not his enemy. Take your foot

01:20:58.060 off his neck. Let him up. Help him up. That's an extraordinary thing to do. That's what we should 0.63

01:21:06.500 be doing right now. We should not be engaged in any kind of anger. They're going to get worse and

01:21:12.460 worse and worse, but they are counting on that. So is Russia and so is China. They're counting on us

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01:23:12.800 As you know, Glenn, conservatives now are obsessed with cancel culture. They can't take any criticism.

01:23:18.020 This is why, Andrew, we spent some time with Charlie Kirk's executive producer in Arizona.

01:23:24.820 He tweeted this. As someone who could speak with authority on this,

01:23:29.600 Charlie loved that he was featured in South Park. He told me many times he would want the episode back up.

01:23:35.300 He tweeted this directly to Paramount+.

01:23:36.940 He would. He would. That's who Charlie was.

01:23:41.320 And by the way, it wasn't a flattering view of Charlie Kirk on South Park.

01:23:47.000 But, I mean, we have a sense of humor. We can take a joke.

01:23:51.620 This is Glenn Beck.

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01:26:11.380 Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:26:14.340 I'm in Phoenix, Arizona for the memorial service this Sunday with Charlie Kirk.

01:26:19.480 You really need to watch this on television.

01:26:22.280 Hopefully, if you're anywhere in the area, you can get to State Farm Stadium.

01:26:26.040 It starts at 11 o'clock Pacific Time.

01:26:29.980 It'll be covered everywhere, but it's going to be something like you've never, ever, ever seen before.

01:26:35.360 This is quite the memorial service.

01:26:39.620 We'll talk about that a little bit more as we go on this hour.

01:26:42.060 Also, I've got Michael Malice on.

01:26:44.240 He was the first guy on TV to make a Charlie Kirk joke after the assassination that was actually funny

01:26:49.820 and made people laugh when we needed the laughter.

01:26:54.600 He's going to talk to us a little bit about the guy who's not actually funny, Jimmy Kimmel,

01:26:59.480 and what that's all about.

01:27:01.020 I'm anxious to hear his take on that.

01:27:02.540 Also, in just a minute, Josh McPherson.

01:27:04.740 He's one of my favorite pastors in the country.

01:27:06.960 He is the Grace City Church lead pastor.

01:27:09.580 He also is the founder of Stronger Man Nation.

01:27:13.120 It's a movement helping men become stronger.

01:27:16.640 And Charlie Kirk was an alpha male, but in a way that you didn't think of.

01:27:24.420 Oh, he's alpha.

01:27:26.160 I mean, he was a strong leader in every way.

01:27:29.300 We're going to talk to Josh about that and find out what is going on in the country, in the churches.

01:27:35.580 I don't think he'll be able to explain that better than most.

01:27:38.220 That's coming up in 60 seconds.

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01:29:06.100 How are you, Pastor?

01:29:07.820 I'm very good.

01:29:08.660 How are you going?

01:29:10.120 I'm good.

01:29:10.880 I'm good.

01:29:11.380 It's good to talk to you, my friend.

01:29:12.340 And thank you for the kind note this week.

01:29:14.680 I really appreciate all that you do.

01:29:17.040 I've been thinking about you a lot, praying for you, and grateful for your voice right

01:29:21.380 now, bro.

01:29:22.960 I feel the same way about you.

01:29:24.980 I want to talk to you about what's happening in our churches, but I want to start with a

01:29:29.440 couple of definitions first.

01:29:31.720 Yeah.

01:29:31.960 What is the definition of a martyr?

01:29:34.940 Where do we get that word?

01:29:36.280 What's it come from?

01:29:37.020 So martyr is anchored in the original Greek word that means witness, and so it's someone

01:29:45.800 who gave clear witness to something.

01:29:47.900 So when we use the word martyr in relationship to a Christian martyr, it's someone who was

01:29:53.340 faithful in their clear and uncompromising witness and explanation of the gospel, and

01:29:59.440 more specifically, Jesus Christ.

01:30:01.640 But you could also make that as a witness of the truth of the American principles, could

01:30:08.580 you not?

01:30:09.980 Absolutely.

01:30:10.700 Absolutely.

01:30:11.880 Because I think Charlie Kirk was a witness of both.

01:30:14.820 And I got to tell you, I told Erica the other day when I saw her, it was hard for me to say

01:30:20.580 this to her, I couldn't imagine a better way to go out than the way Charlie did.

01:30:27.500 And I don't mean the way they killed him, I mean by witnessing, having the words coming

01:30:35.060 out of your mouth just three sentences before witnessing Jesus Christ and then witnessing

01:30:40.980 to the truth to a group of people that were starving for it, and then to be taken out.

01:30:46.860 I mean, if that's not a swift elevator or escalator ride right up to the top, I don't know what

01:30:52.740 is.

01:30:53.100 Oh, it's remarkable.

01:30:55.240 And I mean, all of us have been thinking, reflecting on just, I'm sure I'm like, you

01:31:00.260 haven't slept for days.

01:31:01.400 You're just, you're just, it's all you can think about.

01:31:03.880 And, and, and the irony, the poeticness, how do you want to say it, the nature that he

01:31:08.880 wasn't killed in a car accident.

01:31:10.260 He wasn't attacked somewhere outside.

01:31:11.820 He was, he was killed doing the thing he'd been doing for 12 years and that he'd love to

01:31:17.380 do.

01:31:17.660 In spite of the fame, in spite of all the responsibilities, sitting in a chair, under a tent, with a cheap

01:31:24.140 microphone, talking to anyone who would want to come and listen about the ideas that met

01:31:29.520 most him.

01:31:30.500 And for Charlie, I've heard him say it so many times, he loved America.

01:31:34.680 He loved our nation and he loved what made it great.

01:31:37.060 And what made it great, and this is what made him so, I think, different from other people,

01:31:41.140 is his ability to connect the dots between the greatness of America and the glory of Jesus.

01:31:46.020 And that the American ideas that people connect with around the world work anywhere in the

01:31:52.200 world because they're connected to the timeless truths of the gospel.

01:31:56.220 And the, I mean, Charlie's political theory was anchored in biblical theology.

01:32:00.780 And he, like no one I've ever met, had the ability to connect those dots in all of life.

01:32:07.400 And so, as I've been talking to the guys I'll look long, they didn't kill Charlie because

01:32:11.160 he was a big personality.

01:32:12.420 They didn't kill Charlie because he was merely a big conservative voice.

01:32:16.560 They killed Charlie Kirk because he was talking and the next generation was listening.

01:32:23.220 He was pointing them to the glory of Jesus, the good news of the gospel, anchored in the

01:32:27.880 truth of God's word. 0.92

01:32:29.280 And that's why they had to kill him. 0.79

01:32:31.980 So he is absolutely, in every sense, I believe, a Christian martyr. 0.78

01:32:35.520 And maybe, potentially, the first public figure Christian martyr on American soil.

01:32:40.040 So we have the Jim Elliot.

01:32:41.160 Joseph Smith.

01:32:42.160 I know we disagree.

01:32:43.740 I know we disagree on theology, but I would have to throw in, because I've thought about

01:32:48.060 this, Joseph Smith and Charlie Kirk are probably the only Christian martyrs in American history.

01:32:55.100 Yep.

01:32:55.640 Can we have Christian martyrs? 0.92

01:32:56.980 You know, Jim Elliot goes to a jungle somewhere.

01:32:59.020 You know, those kind of examples have gone away.

01:33:00.860 But on American soil, at an American university, captured by 3,000 cell phones from every possible

01:33:08.600 angle, this one was just different.

01:33:11.340 Yeah, it was.

01:33:12.300 It was.

01:33:12.980 And it, you know, I think if Charlie would have been asked the night before, hey, listen,

01:33:22.820 Charlie, tomorrow you have a choice.

01:33:25.540 You can live a little while longer, and you can continue to do these things, or tomorrow

01:33:30.600 you could be taken out while testifying, and millions of people will be affected by your

01:33:37.840 testimony of Christ.

01:33:39.940 From what I know of Charlie, and I knew him fairly well, there's not a question he would

01:33:45.300 have said, oh, the second one, right now.

01:33:47.180 Yes, let's do it.

01:33:48.260 That's right.

01:33:49.100 That's right.

01:33:49.580 And I think people know that, Glenn, and that's what makes the story so compelling.

01:33:53.880 This wasn't like a shock or a surprise, even though it was horrific.

01:33:57.860 He'd been getting death threats for years.

01:34:00.420 And, you know, the Bible says count the cost, right?

01:34:02.820 He is one who counted the cost.

01:34:05.180 And the question was, do I want to take the road of safety as an act of cowardice, or walk

01:34:11.660 the road of danger as an act of faith?

01:34:14.520 And oftentimes we think that the counterpart of cowardice is courage.

01:34:19.140 The counterpart of cowardice is faith.

01:34:22.020 And Charlie had faith in the risen Christ, which gave him then courage.

01:34:26.600 I mean, you watch that video of him walking up to the chair at the Utah.

01:34:30.060 It's haunting.

01:34:31.080 I mean, you're like, turn around.

01:34:33.080 Don't go out there.

01:34:34.200 Someone stop.

01:34:35.080 Why isn't there bulletproof glass?

01:34:37.040 And Glenn, he could have been wearing a full kit.

01:34:39.580 He could have been behind bulletproof glass.

01:34:40.960 He didn't want to.

01:34:41.820 He wanted to stay accessible to the people and demonstrate a measure of courage that,

01:34:45.780 quite frankly, many of us pastors sometimes lack.

01:34:48.560 And it was a stunning display of courage that I think we're now seeing ripple across the

01:34:53.540 country.

01:34:54.520 So what is happening in our churches, Josh?

01:34:56.840 What is happening in our church?

01:34:57.760 I was lucky enough to attend one of my services in my faith in a town where the bishop got

01:35:03.260 up and he spoke boldly about Charlie Kirk and what was happening.

01:35:07.760 And I don't know how many churches, even in my own faith, I don't know how many, you know,

01:35:12.100 wards or churches that actually spoke about Charlie Kirk, and that was so important to

01:35:18.880 me.

01:35:19.420 Is that happening in most churches or are they dropping the ball again?

01:35:25.520 Well, obviously, you can't speak for every church out there, but so I'm on these text

01:35:30.520 threads with over 60 pastors.

01:35:33.940 And so, you know, across the country from Florida, New York, Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas,

01:35:38.720 California, red states, blue states, big churches, small churches, some of the biggest churches

01:35:43.100 in the country down to 10 month old baby church plants.

01:35:46.880 And so we're all talking and Wednesday it happens and you're just like, my gosh, what's

01:35:51.140 happened?

01:35:51.620 And Thursday, Friday, you're processing and grieving and there's just too much to take

01:35:55.380 in.

01:35:55.840 And by Friday, it's like, gosh, this feels different.

01:35:58.940 Something is moving here and stirring here, not only because of how he was killed, but

01:36:05.000 because of who he was and how he lived.

01:36:07.280 I mean, all of a sudden, you can't go on the internet without just clip after clip after

01:36:10.300 clip after clip.

01:36:11.180 And I don't think even Charlie knew how big a deal he was.

01:36:15.280 I mean, bro, from missing man formations and Blue Angels to the Dallas Cowboys to New York

01:36:22.080 Yankees to Coldplay to the Polish Parliament.

01:36:26.040 I know.

01:36:26.780 Holding a moment in silence.

01:36:27.780 You're watching this, you're like, what in the world is happening?

01:36:31.140 You know, 150,000 people is reported by CNN in London.

01:36:34.720 It turned out to be 3 million.

01:36:35.760 It's like, this is wild.

01:36:37.820 And so Saturday, I filmed this quick video.

01:36:39.660 I was like, hey, pastors, if you're out there, I think there's a tidal wave coming.

01:36:43.440 And the tidal wave is in the form of people who are hurting and are hungry and they're

01:36:47.880 going to show up at your church.

01:36:49.500 And it's our job to open the Bible and give them Jesus.

01:36:52.300 Don't miss the moment.

01:36:53.540 And then we all went into Sunday going, what's going to happen?

01:36:55.680 And this is what I, this is why I texted you yesterday.

01:36:58.000 This is what I want the American people to hear.

01:37:00.640 Because in moments of tragedy like this, we instantly start looking for meaning.

01:37:04.900 Like, why did this happen?

01:37:06.320 Why could have this been allowed by a good and loving God?

01:37:08.660 And we know we have promises in the word of God that says, what Satan intends for evil,

01:37:12.640 God intends to use for good.

01:37:14.060 And all of us, including you and myself, we're probably going, yeah, not this time.

01:37:19.780 You know what I mean?

01:37:20.480 Like, there's no way.

01:37:22.980 I'm seeing it.

01:37:23.780 I'm seeing it happen.

01:37:24.280 There's no way it could be used for good.

01:37:25.580 Yeah.

01:37:26.000 And so, so Saturday, we're all like, how could this be used for good?

01:37:29.320 Sunday, we get to church, and I walk in, and I'm like, what in the world is happening?

01:37:35.640 And this is what I wanted to tell you.

01:37:37.120 I want American people to hear, universally across the board, with every pastor I know

01:37:42.280 and who I'm talking to, Easter level record attendance on a random Sunday in September.

01:37:49.360 I mean, I'm talking churches up 30%, 40%.

01:37:52.160 Some guys texting me, 70%, 80%.

01:37:55.580 And not only Easter level attendance, Easter level response to the goodness of the gospel.

01:37:59.920 You know, Charlie used to get up, and he was really famous for saying, you know,

01:38:03.640 the gospel is, in four words, Jesus took my place.

01:38:06.780 The gospel, in three words, hymn for me.

01:38:08.380 The gospel, in two words, substitution and atonement.

01:38:10.380 The gospel, in one word, grace.

01:38:11.980 What is grace?

01:38:12.620 It's not getting what you deserve and getting what you don't deserve.

01:38:15.000 When you stand before the judgment seat of Christ, in Christ, you can have grace and find eternal life.

01:38:19.100 Thanks so much.

01:38:19.680 You can drop the mic and walk off.

01:38:20.700 I think Charlie's life and death has awakened, Glenn, in just this moment, a spiritual hunger that I have never seen at levels in our nation across the board.

01:38:34.220 And so I wanted the American people to hear that when Jesus says, you know, unless a grain of wheat goes into the ground and dies, it cannot produce more seeds.

01:38:43.020 Because Charlie's life went into the ground like that grain of wheat.

01:38:47.420 It died, and it's producing millions of seeds.

01:38:50.860 And this isn't just pastor's hyperbole, preacher hyperbole.

01:38:55.380 This is reality.

01:38:56.740 We are seeing not just a Sunday of revival.

01:38:59.260 I believe we're moving into a season of revival, and it's staggering.

01:39:03.280 It's a stunning thing to behold.

01:39:04.660 So I was thinking the other day that our work has got to be, all of us, has to be get out into the fields.

01:39:12.840 The harvest is ripe.

01:39:14.380 But one of the things that I wanted to ask you about is, you know, I have to grow my own alfalfa.

01:39:22.520 And when I say I grow it, I have people that grow it for me and my cows.

01:39:27.640 I am all half.

01:39:28.980 I mean, other people grow it.

01:39:30.080 Right, other people grow it for my cows.

01:39:33.200 But I know the planting and everything else.

01:39:36.500 And the harvest comes in three or four times a summer.

01:39:40.660 You have to go out and just cut the field and then grow some more and then cut the field.

01:39:45.200 This is the first cutting, if you will.

01:39:48.340 The harvest is ripe, but more is coming after this.

01:39:52.060 Do bad things have to come each time before the harvest?

01:39:58.120 That's a really good question.

01:40:01.840 You know, C.S. Lewis said, pain is God's megaphone to a deaf world.

01:40:06.500 And sometimes it takes something painful in our own personal life or out in the public square that causes us to reflect on our life.

01:40:13.300 I mean, here's why this is landing on people.

01:40:14.780 I mean, have you been asking yourself what makes this different?

01:40:18.100 And not to be crass or mercenary, but people die every day.

01:40:21.620 And it's horrible and it's tragic and it's a part of the fall and it's terrible.

01:40:26.400 But this has stopped and shocked the world.

01:40:31.120 And it's like, what is different?

01:40:32.500 And I think, Glenn, one of the things that has made it different, well, there's lots of dynamics.

01:40:37.740 And there's, of course, the sovereign plan of God at hand, I believe.

01:40:40.640 But in Charlie, we saw a champion, our champion.

01:40:44.980 He was a gladiator.

01:40:46.180 He would go into places that none of us would want to go and do and say what we wish we could say.

01:40:51.840 It's like, that guy's on our team.

01:40:53.720 Yeah, let's go.

01:40:54.480 This is exciting.

01:40:55.140 And then he was taken off the field in a devastating injury.

01:40:57.940 And we're all asking ourselves, is the team still going to win?

01:41:00.840 And the second thing that makes it personal, I think, is all of us saw ourselves in Charlie.

01:41:05.220 He was a normal guy.

01:41:06.880 He could connect to the normal Joe.

01:41:08.560 He was saying, I mean, we had people saying, including our former president, that Charlie's views were extreme.

01:41:15.300 He was an extremist.

01:41:16.340 And you know what his views were?

01:41:17.540 You should read the Bible, obey the Bible, and teach people about the Bible.

01:41:20.760 You should get married and have kids, hold down a job, and be a good member of your society.

01:41:25.180 That is now counted as extreme.

01:41:28.020 And all of us are listening to this and watching this going, wait a minute.

01:41:31.340 That's what I believe.

01:41:32.500 That's how I live.

01:41:33.640 I'm just a boring Christian that's married to one woman, that's got a couple kids, and working hard in my community.

01:41:38.960 Do they all feel like that about me?

01:41:40.840 And so it's carried something different, I think, with it, and it's caused something to shift.

01:41:46.540 And so to your question, does something bad always have to happen for there to be a harvest?

01:41:50.880 Well, it is a cycle of life.

01:41:53.120 Death is a prayer mark, was it, for the miracle of resurrection.

01:41:58.820 It's true with the grain of wheat that goes into the ground, and it's true, I think, of how God works in the heavenly realm.

01:42:07.440 And so this one tragic event, I believe, is going to roll out, not just for a few days, not just for a few weeks, I believe for decades, because, well, I'll give you an example.

01:42:18.580 We got a college at our church.

01:42:20.420 A college kid came up to me on Monday.

01:42:22.320 He said, Pastor Josh, I just had to tell you, I've been wanting to reach out to some of my friends in high school who don't know Jesus, and I just wasn't sure how to do it.

01:42:29.440 But after Charlie's assassination, I thought, my gosh, why am I wasting time?

01:42:34.500 And so I texted 10 of my old high school buddies.

01:42:37.920 These are secular, pagan, atheistic, non-church-going college freshmen.

01:42:43.980 I texted 10 of them, and they're all away at school.

01:42:47.240 All 10 drove home and came to church with me on Sunday.

01:42:51.560 Wow.

01:42:52.780 Josh, hang on just 60 seconds.

01:42:54.420 Hang on.

01:42:55.140 Hang on just a second, because I want to continue about the awakening here in just a second.

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01:44:12.060 Back to Josh.

01:44:23.000 Pastor Josh McPherson, his website is gracecitychurch.com.

01:44:28.540 You can follow him on Instagram at Pastor Josh McPherson.

01:44:31.640 Josh, tell me the difference between a revival and the awakening.

01:44:36.100 Is there?

01:44:36.680 Well, I think when we think about what is a revival, you know, we see different examples in history.

01:44:46.220 We see different examples in the church.

01:44:48.080 And I think most fundamentally, if you were going to define revival, it is an unexplainable, supernaturally born increase in spiritual hunger, desire, and intensity.

01:45:01.880 And so when I think about what's happening now, obviously, you know, it's probably premature to go, we're in revival.

01:45:08.100 But I'm suspicious that we'll look back on this moment in history.

01:45:13.640 And here's the thing.

01:45:14.900 Revivals aren't sustainable in terms of, like, they don't last for hundreds and hundreds of years.

01:45:20.320 They're moments in time when God, through his grace, opens up a portal from heaven and pours out an abnormal amount of grace.

01:45:27.420 And people are, their eyes are opened because most people who aren't interested in God aren't walking throughout their day thinking about eternal judgment and eternity and the things of God.

01:45:38.200 They're just kind of busy with Netflix and life, right?

01:45:40.860 The mercy of God in revival is when he opens people's eyes to actually care about those things that actually matter, like eternity, like sin, like grace, like the cross, like the gospel.

01:45:51.180 And so right now what we're seeing, and this is what I want America to hear, I am hearing and seeing universally testified across the board from every pastor I know, increased levels of spiritual hunger, intensity, and curiosity in ways that I have never seen.

01:46:07.880 And so it makes me think, I wonder if we are on the brink of a revival.

01:46:11.560 And it would make sense to me, Glenn, because the psalmist says that precious is the death of his saints in the eyes of God.

01:46:18.320 And I think Charlie was loved by the Father, and he was like, you know what, Charlie was faithful in life and faithful in death.

01:46:25.500 I'm going to honor his life and death by, and this is crazy, God is accomplishing more in days than Charlie could accomplish in a lifetime for his mission.

01:46:33.840 I know.

01:46:34.500 Josh, thank you so much.

01:46:35.680 Will you do me a favor, just text me Monday, tell me about the church attendance for the next few weeks, will you?

01:46:40.660 God bless.

01:46:41.560 Josh McPherson.

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01:48:23.820 We're getting to Michael Malice here in just a second for some laughs.

01:48:28.460 But I want to let you know that a 7.8 on the Richter scale, an earthquake just happened in Russia.

01:48:35.420 If you look at the Richter scale, the last one in Russia happened up more towards the Aleutian Islands.

01:48:43.160 This is a little more towards Japan.

01:48:45.260 The ripple effect, I'm just guessing just by looking at the map, somebody's going to do this quickly.

01:48:50.440 But it looks like that will be headed towards California, a tidal wave.

01:48:56.560 They've had five massive aftershocks.

01:48:58.840 So I'm sure later today we're going to be on alert for tidal waves.

01:49:07.380 If you're anywhere in that area, make sure that you are paying attention to your local stations.

01:49:13.940 And another reason why stations should remain local, but also EBS.

01:49:19.860 I'm sure it's not going to be anything.

01:49:21.180 But, you know, the real problem here is, at least for me, I grew up in what's called the Ring of Fire.

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01:49:29.820 And the Ring of Fire, 75% of the world's active volcanoes and about 90% of the earthquakes happen in this Pacific zone.

01:49:39.440 You know, think Alaska, Japan, the Philippines, Indonesia, New Zealand, Chile, Mexico, the West Coast, California.

01:49:47.040 All of that, that's the Ring of Fire.

01:49:49.600 And a nine on the Richter scale would do really quite bad things and could set that whole Ring of Fire on fire.

01:50:00.280 This is not it, but it is the second massive earthquake we have had in that area here in the, what, the last month.

01:50:08.260 On that good news, let me go to funny man, Michael Ballas.

01:50:12.720 Hi, Michael. How are you?

01:50:13.980 I wish we were talking to better auspices, Glenn.

01:50:17.920 I do, too. I do, too.

01:50:19.680 By the way, Michael Ballas is the host of Your Welcome and the author of Not Sick of Winning, which I absolutely love, Michael.

01:50:28.260 I just love it.

01:50:29.680 Thank you.

01:50:30.060 I wanted to talk to you about Jimmy Kimmel.

01:50:34.540 First of all, you're a comedian.

01:50:36.280 You've been in this business.

01:50:38.440 I mean, I could use a joke detector, you know, like a metal detector.

01:50:42.980 I cannot detect a joke in what he said about what he said about Charlie Kirk.

01:50:51.740 Can you?

01:50:53.080 Well, I have a tweet that's going wide right now.

01:50:56.320 And I basically said, let me read it right here for you, that you soulless conservatives cheering on what happened to Jimmy Kimmel haven't stopped to think about Jimmy's wife and children because they now have to spend more time with Jimmy Kimmel.

01:51:08.920 And so let's have some thoughts and prayers for that family.

01:51:17.460 Anyway, the thing is, Glenn, you and I have been at this.

01:51:25.280 Thank you for that, Michael.

01:51:26.700 Thank you.

01:51:27.220 It's been a very long week.

01:51:28.760 Thank you.

01:51:29.120 It's been a long week.

01:51:29.940 But, you know, you and I have been at this for a minute.

01:51:31.680 Right.

01:51:32.520 And, you know, there's a whole metaphor about boiling the frog.

01:51:35.420 If you heat the water, the frog doesn't jump out of the pot.

01:51:38.060 When did it become normal for late night TV talk shows to become MSNBC?

01:51:45.040 This wasn't a thing for decades.

01:51:48.020 And then we turn around and it's somehow appropriate that Stephen Colbert is doing Nazi salutes in reference to the president.

01:51:56.000 This wasn't a thing under Carson or Letterman or Leno or Conan.

01:52:01.280 It was very apolitical or bipartisan in their attacks.

01:52:05.880 And then all of a sudden it's this jihadist stuff.

01:52:09.320 And no one even realized, wait a minute, how did we get here?

01:52:12.200 Because, you know, you know what, Michael, I've studied this on the serious side.

01:52:15.640 And I know you have, too.

01:52:16.820 I mean, you kind of grew up in it.

01:52:18.920 But, you know, this is what happened in Germany.

01:52:22.300 When when fascism actually takes root, they take over the the culture and everything becomes about politics, everything.

01:52:34.140 And that's what happened.

01:52:35.880 And the the all of the TV shows, all of the entertainment, it all became about towing the line.

01:52:44.440 And, you know, I'm watching these shows now and I think they're just going to age so horribly.

01:52:49.880 I'm watching all these shows and Jimmy Kimmel.

01:52:52.520 And I'm thinking there is there's not there's no comedy in this anymore.

01:52:55.780 It's just a late night rant as you're trying to go to sleep.

01:52:59.880 To your point, one of my favorite authors is Hubert Selby, Selby, Jr.

01:53:04.720 He wrote a book called Last Exit to Brooklyn, which is regarded as like a classic of transgender transgressive, not transgender, transgressive fiction.

01:53:13.040 And then if you watch the documentary about him, like half of it or a good portion is about how much he hates George Bush and the Iraq war.

01:53:20.820 You're watching this.

01:53:21.500 You're like, who cares?

01:53:23.100 He has this typical lefty of the time opinion.

01:53:27.360 I want to hear about his career.

01:53:28.680 That's unique to him.

01:53:29.760 So it is going to age horribly because it's all the same.

01:53:33.360 I know.

01:53:33.820 I know.

01:53:34.720 Are we switching?

01:53:35.580 Are we changing, Michael?

01:53:37.520 Or is it?

01:53:38.440 Are we at the end of this kind of stuff?

01:53:41.720 You know, Trump is doing a better job curing TDS than he did of curing COVID.

01:53:47.040 Because he's not relying on the pharmaceutical companies to help him.

01:53:52.100 That's why.

01:53:52.840 In 2024, when Mark Zuckerberg said that Trump's reaction to that assassination attempt was awesome and he had no pushback for it, that was like, wait a minute.

01:54:06.860 You know, five minutes ago, if you said the slightest positive thing, like, oh, you know, I think Trump can sometimes be funny. 0.93

01:54:12.340 You were a Nazi. 0.87

01:54:13.920 Oh, yeah.

01:54:14.420 That's when it stopped.

01:54:15.040 And now I think the bottom is going to be falling out.

01:54:17.660 And the fact that these networks, like, wait a minute, we're alienating not just conservatives, but moderates.

01:54:23.380 And anyone who just regards murder as evil, it's like, okay, that's a lot of people in this country still got that job rolling.

01:54:31.000 You know, I have to tell you, I think, I mean, Jimmy Kimmel didn't help himself.

01:54:34.260 First of all, it wasn't funny.

01:54:35.240 His ratings are abysmal.

01:54:36.600 His ratings in the money demographic are 120,000.

01:54:40.420 Is that right?

01:54:41.800 Yeah.

01:54:42.800 That's insane.

01:54:43.920 YouTube videos get more views than that.

01:54:46.660 I mean, that's insane.

01:54:48.880 They were looking for a way.

01:54:50.460 The rumor is now that they have been looking to replace him for a while.

01:54:53.960 They're just using this as an excuse to be able to get rid of him because he wasn't performing.

01:54:59.440 And they're just doubling down on this.

01:55:01.940 And it's really not going to work.

01:55:05.980 And, you know, on this, I have to tell you, I'm really trying to find something funny in what Jimmy Kimmel said.

01:55:12.520 And funny can be found.

01:55:14.280 You were on Gutfeld.

01:55:15.740 I saw you.

01:55:16.900 You were funny.

01:55:18.160 You were the first person to make me laugh during this Charlie Kirk thing.

01:55:22.460 Yeah.

01:55:22.740 It was a joke on Charlie.

01:55:25.440 People, people, it was a joke with Charlie, not on Charlie.

01:55:28.380 Yes, with Charlie.

01:55:29.000 Yeah.

01:55:29.120 Yeah.

01:55:29.520 Yeah.

01:55:30.140 Yeah.

01:55:30.480 You know, people, people watch Gutfeld to laugh.

01:55:33.160 Obviously, we've taped it on 9-11 the day after Charlie was murdered.

01:55:38.360 You know, Greg does his monologue, very serious.

01:55:41.080 Kennedy does her piece, you know, for the heart. 1.00

01:55:43.900 Now it's on me.

01:55:44.700 And there's a live studio audience there of like middle-aged tourists.

01:55:47.360 So I'm like, this might not be in my crowd.

01:55:49.840 And I said, you know, when you guys, I go, people, people are here to, people are here

01:55:54.900 to laugh.

01:55:55.920 So when you guys booked me for today, I wrote a bunch of 9-11 jokes.

01:55:59.580 And when they laughed at that, I'm like, okay, now they want that permission to laugh.

01:56:04.180 So I said, and now I feel like they're in bad taste.

01:56:07.840 And I said, the best I got is Dr. Jill Biden released a statement.

01:56:12.360 And in her medical opinion, Charlie's fine.

01:56:18.820 And she's excited that he's going to be voting Democrat for the next 100 years.

01:56:25.220 And, you know, I knew Charlie.

01:56:27.960 You guys knew Charlie.

01:56:29.320 Charlie was extremely positive.

01:56:31.400 He's always smiling in these pictures.

01:56:35.780 And there's no way Charlie Kirk would want, he'd want people to be angry.

01:56:40.400 He'd want people to miss him.

01:56:41.580 But there's no way he would want people to give in to this sense of hopelessness and despair.

01:56:47.180 He's the exact opposite of that.

01:56:50.580 I don't know if he would have wanted us to be angry.

01:56:52.740 He would have wanted us to be, have righteous indignation.

01:56:56.140 Sure.

01:56:56.440 I think is different.

01:56:57.820 You know what I mean?

01:56:58.440 Yes.

01:56:58.640 And I think this is playing out exactly the way, at least with his followers, playing out exactly the way he would be proud of.

01:57:08.040 I mean, I'm seeing stuff in America, you know, that's happening because of this, because of the way Charlie lived his life, that are miracles.

01:57:17.340 Just really, we're witnessing miracles right now.

01:57:22.240 Yeah.

01:57:22.580 And I think, you know, sometimes it takes one of the things that Martin Luther King did so well is there are plenty of people in the South, even people who are racist, when they saw men and women in suits getting attacked by dogs and fire hoses.

01:57:35.940 They're like, you know what?

01:57:36.620 I don't know what's going on, but I'm against this.

01:57:38.820 And you don't have to have any political perspective to be like, a young man killed in front of his kids?

01:57:45.120 I'm against it.

01:57:46.380 Like, whatever you're saying, I'm not even listening to it.

01:57:49.340 You people are wrong.

01:57:50.460 This is evil and everything I'm opposed to.

01:57:53.520 And it's pretty on a, and the equivocation, Glenn, I had to avoid looking at the social media because I didn't want to see the comments.

01:58:00.640 I couldn't even, because I knew I couldn't handle the dumb hot takes that I'm sure some people had.

01:58:06.960 My, my son was with me over the weekend and he's like, dad, all I would hear is dad.

01:58:13.560 Oh my dad.

01:58:14.980 And I finally looked at him and I said, get off of social media.

01:58:18.280 I don't want to see it.

01:58:19.420 You don't need to see it.

01:58:21.200 Get off of social media.

01:58:22.860 It's just going to make you more and more angry.

01:58:25.680 And, and that's the point.

01:58:27.540 You know, the things that are getting this, the, the, the, the retweet and the algorithms to boost it.

01:58:34.040 It's all the stuff that makes you angry and passionate and engage, get off of social media.

01:58:40.040 It's not real.

01:58:41.380 But to that point, if Jimmy Kimmel said this in 2023, nothing would have happened.

01:58:47.560 Nothing was just playing by the old script where nothing is sacred when it comes to the MAGA movement.

01:58:54.140 I'll remind you.

01:58:55.340 I'm sure you remember this.

01:58:56.080 I believe it was 2020 when William Weld, former governor of Massachusetts, Republican governor of Massachusetts, went on CNN and said, yelling, Trump has committed treason and the penalty for treason is death in those words.

01:59:08.820 And no one can deny that the guy's advocating killing Trump.

01:59:12.800 And now, thankfully, people like, wait, wait, wait.

01:59:14.840 After the assassination attempt and after having a deceased man as president in Biden, we need to take a step back.

01:59:22.840 But this is, may I say, and I'm not saying this, you know, in false humility.

01:59:29.340 I mean this 100%.

01:59:30.420 If it would have happened to me, the reaction would have been the same.

01:59:33.420 And not just because his profile was higher in Washington or whatever, it's because the way he lived his life, what he said all the time.

01:59:43.120 I've talked about God for a long time, but not the way Charlie did.

01:59:46.640 And this change is not just because of we're sick of all of this stuff, but because of who Charlie Kirk was and how he lived his life.

02:00:00.280 That's the power.

02:00:01.540 And quite honestly, that should be a wake-up call to all of us.

02:00:05.100 How are we living our life?

02:00:06.860 If we died, would we bring more people to Christ because we led our life a certain way?

02:00:15.000 Would we bring people to Christ?

02:00:16.860 Would we bring people to peace or would we bring them to anger?

02:00:21.380 That's all been on my mind for the last 10 days.

02:00:24.620 Yeah.

02:00:24.820 After it happened, Stu texted me, Michael, it should have been you.

02:00:28.100 And I can't say that you didn't even know.

02:00:31.520 It hurt my feelings when Sarah did it also, but I can't argue with them.

02:00:35.280 I'll give you an example of how you were correct.

02:00:39.560 Because you and I have been, again, we've talked to a lot of different people.

02:00:43.140 I was on Charlie's show.

02:00:44.860 He kept talking over me, cutting me off because we were arguing about whether Trump was going to be the nominee.

02:00:49.080 I said he didn't have it in the bag, which at that point he hadn't.

02:00:51.960 And, you know, he texted me to apologize.

02:00:53.900 So I didn't feel disrespected at all.

02:00:55.580 These things get heated.

02:00:56.500 You've been at this game.

02:00:57.480 I've been at this game.

02:00:58.620 Sometimes voices get raised.

02:00:59.940 It's never personal.

02:01:00.780 And it was the only time where someone felt the need to be like, to apologize, even when nothing was wrong.

02:01:06.140 So that really, you know, off camera speaks to this character.

02:01:08.800 I don't think anyone who knew him in this space has a bad word to say about him.

02:01:13.340 Yeah.

02:01:13.860 No.

02:01:14.300 True.

02:01:14.760 No.

02:01:15.720 No.

02:01:16.060 Nobody.

02:01:16.720 Nobody.

02:01:17.340 And that is really rare.

02:01:19.140 Because I've been around people, when they die, people will say, no, seriously, I've been around people who, you know, if they would die, people would play nice.

02:01:27.340 But then they would go into the other room and they'd be like, you know, but they don't have any idea.

02:01:32.220 But not one bad word has been spoken in front of me or that I can even imagine has been spoken to anybody.

02:01:41.620 It's he was the real deal.

02:01:44.480 He was the real deal.

02:01:46.760 Michael.

02:01:47.420 Go ahead, sir.

02:01:48.060 Yes.

02:01:48.320 No, you finish up.

02:01:50.020 Go ahead.

02:01:50.660 I was just, I'm just also hopeful that the fever has broken and that politics and just discourse in general can return to some measure of decency and dignity and not to the point where people are literally wishing each other dead.

02:02:05.220 My God, like what, where, that didn't even happen in the Civil War.

02:02:09.580 I'm anxious to see the memorial service.

02:02:12.480 I'm going to be there on Sunday.

02:02:13.580 I'm anxious to see this because it's all political figures except for Erica.

02:02:17.900 But it's all political figures.

02:02:19.560 And I worry about that.

02:02:21.400 I hope that this is the right kind of memorial that Charlie would want.

02:02:26.960 I know it starts with a two-hour service beforehand, but I'm anxious.

02:02:33.720 I hope that we are on the air Monday going, that's exactly the way Charlie would have handled it.

02:02:38.360 That's right.

02:02:39.260 Because I know Charlie's team has been involved in this, but, you know, they've had to farm a lot of stuff out because it's just overwhelming.

02:02:47.820 You know, there are more press credential requests for this event globally, more press credential requests than at any Super Bowl.

02:02:58.580 Oh, wow.

02:02:59.180 That is remarkable.

02:03:01.220 This thing is going to be reported on all over the globe.

02:03:04.040 And I pray that the spirit dwells there strongly.

02:03:10.520 Please pray for that all weekend.

02:03:13.560 Anyway, Michael, as always, great to talk to you.

02:03:15.720 Thank you, my friend.

02:03:16.280 Appreciate it.

02:03:16.880 Always a pleasure, Glenn.

02:03:17.620 Take care.

02:03:18.140 All right.

02:03:18.380 And thanks for the laughs.

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02:04:20.880 You know, truth makes the left so mad.

02:04:26.820 And right about now, they're all losing their minds.

02:04:30.960 We must be doing something right.

02:04:33.780 Stick around.

02:04:34.760 Back will continue right after this.

02:04:37.100 Okay, well, with that done, enjoy the weekend.

02:04:59.160 Stay safe.

02:05:01.080 Please stay in prayer.

02:05:02.560 Stay humble.

02:05:03.340 Stay connected to God because only He can save the Republic.

02:05:07.560 But miracles are happening.

02:05:09.160 Expect them.

02:05:10.540 Live in a way that you can demand them and call them down because they're going to be needed and they will be seen.

02:05:18.600 And we get the opportunity to witness and testify and be a part of all of that.

02:05:24.220 We will see you Sunday with Charlie Kirk and then back here on Monday.

02:05:29.520 God bless.

02:05:31.040 This is Glenn Beck.

The Glenn Beck Program - September 19, 2025

New Script： Jimmy Kimmel Is a Bigger Martyr than Charlie Kirk ｜ Guests： Salena Zito & Josh McPherson ｜ 9⧸19⧸25

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