The Glenn Beck Program - New World Order Renewed？｜ Guests： Michael Malice, Dan Ikenson, & Ami Horowitz

00:00:00.000 The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:00:08.800 Well, are we going to war with Iran?

00:00:12.400 Are we going to war with China over tariffs?

00:00:16.200 The poor farmers are dying, just dying and losing hope.

00:00:23.200 Apple had the Supreme Court rule against them yesterday.

00:00:27.840 People will cheer, but at the same time, you're talking about breaking up Facebook and regulating this industry.

00:00:34.360 That will not work out well for conservatives.

00:00:37.660 Gold is up. Bitcoin is up.

00:00:41.300 The Dow is way down.

00:00:44.680 Why?

00:00:46.180 I'll explain a new world order in one minute.

00:00:53.400 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:00:55.360 Boy, I'm going on vacation starting tomorrow.

00:00:59.740 I'm going to do the show tomorrow, and then I'm going on vacation.

00:01:03.080 Oh, I'm looking forward to it, except I'm getting sick.

00:01:07.060 It's great.

00:01:08.520 Last night I noticed, oh, you've got to be kidding me.

00:01:11.500 Your body just knows, doesn't it?

00:01:12.980 I have a terrible news for you as well, that you have another day of work.

00:01:16.580 You think you're going tomorrow.

00:01:17.880 It's actually the next day.

00:01:20.200 It's very sad.

00:01:21.120 You've got to be kidding me.

00:01:22.100 Today's not Wednesday?

00:01:25.020 No, you're just a day off.

00:01:28.420 I've just made your life even worse.

00:01:30.020 You suck.

00:01:32.380 Okay, so let me talk to you about the Mediterranean.

00:01:38.820 Yet another great vacation.

00:01:42.380 Now, this one is happening a year from around today, really.

00:01:47.840 It's happening, I think, in, what is it, next March or next May?

00:01:51.100 We're going to go to the Mediterranean, and this is something that people have asked me

00:01:54.920 to do forever, and my wife has asked me to do, and my daughters have been like, we got

00:01:59.940 to go to Greece.

00:02:00.780 They took ancient Greek history for their major in school, so I've been being pressured by

00:02:12.140 my family.

00:02:13.800 So what I decided to do was do a couple of things.

00:02:19.600 Take my family on vacation in an unbelievable way and invite you to come with.

00:02:27.700 Huh?

00:02:30.280 Because what I like to do is I really like, and my family is like, oh, Dad, shut up.

00:02:34.680 What I like to do is I like to go to these places and find the really cool things that

00:02:40.340 nobody knows about with history, and then read up all about them.

00:02:45.720 So what we've done is we've put together a cruise through history.

00:02:49.380 Now, the cruise through history is taking place next spring, and we're going to take you

00:02:54.560 to the foundations of our faith, the foundations of freedom and the republic and human progress.

00:03:01.240 What pulled us out of the Dark Ages?

00:03:04.160 What was the Renaissance about?

00:03:06.980 What does a republic really mean?

00:03:10.200 And how did we get here with our faith?

00:03:12.880 What does our faith really mean?

00:03:15.000 You're going to love this.

00:03:16.320 We are going to go to, we're starting in Venice, then we're going to Greece, then we're going

00:03:23.160 to King's Landing, it's in Croatia, and then we're going to Jerusalem.

00:03:29.300 Did I say Athens?

00:03:30.700 We're going to Athens, too.

00:03:31.820 This is going to be amazing.

00:03:32.220 It's amazing.

00:03:32.720 It's going to be an amazing trip.

00:03:33.920 Amazing.

00:03:34.760 And so what I did is they said, Glenn, you could invite anybody you wanted, and I'm like,

00:03:39.400 I got to have David Barton there.

00:03:41.060 Right, right.

00:03:41.880 David Barton.

00:03:42.580 Got to have Rabbi Lappin, okay, a guy who want to have, I mean, I don't know if you

00:03:48.780 know this, Bill O'Reilly's degree is in history.

00:03:52.760 I don't think people realize that because he's so much about the news of the day, and

00:03:56.240 he's like, I don't want to speculate.

00:03:57.440 He's a history guy.

00:03:58.300 He's a history guy.

00:03:58.800 I mean, his books tell you that story, but yeah.

00:04:00.520 So I wanted him, and then they said, is there anybody else?

00:04:05.540 And I'm like, there's nobody else I'd like to invite.

00:04:08.460 Nobody.

00:04:09.580 You couldn't think of one person?

00:04:11.160 Not one.

00:04:11.760 Not one that I liked, you know, wanted to hang out with.

00:04:15.300 You could think of people, but you couldn't think of one you wanted to invite.

00:04:17.960 Yeah, so I said, just open up the phone book.

00:04:20.120 And so they had a phone book, which is really odd.

00:04:24.000 It's almost like that's a 30-year-old reference of having the phone book right there.

00:04:27.460 Right, right.

00:04:27.880 So they just opened up the phone book, and strangely, your mother's name, because you

00:04:32.820 weren't even, when they had the phone book, your name wasn't in there.

00:04:36.000 Okay, and so I asked your mom, and she said, is Stu going?

00:04:40.660 And I said, no.

00:04:41.700 And she's like, oh, thank God.

00:04:43.160 Okay, yes.

00:04:44.720 But then I don't know what happened, and she said, I should invite you.

00:04:48.740 So you're going, too.

00:04:49.740 So this tells the truth about how great this trip is going to be.

00:04:54.320 I'm actually going on it.

00:04:56.240 Yeah, I know.

00:04:56.980 I avoid every one of your trips.

00:04:58.740 Right.

00:04:58.760 This is one of the things I've been telling everybody I know.

00:05:01.620 You've got to go to Europe.

00:05:02.980 You want to see these places.

00:05:04.160 This is, you've got to go now.

00:05:06.780 You've got to go now.

00:05:08.120 I mean, look at, do you see that what Italy is doing?

00:05:10.880 They are now, they're kicking George Soros out because he's been funding all of these

00:05:17.140 boats that are bringing up all the immigrants, and the prime minister, I think yesterday,

00:05:22.520 said, enough, enough, get out.

00:05:26.160 And so they've just had enough.

00:05:27.960 So if you, I mean, if you really want to see Athens, you know, that's a temple.

00:05:34.380 That is a temple to, what, Zeus, I think.

00:05:37.400 So that's a temple.

00:05:39.780 That's also exactly where Paul gave his Mars Hill speech, which is, I mean, just full of

00:05:46.980 history and riches.

00:05:49.140 That could be gone in 10 years.

00:05:52.280 So you really want to see it.

00:05:54.100 We really want you to bring your kids.

00:05:56.020 If you have kids and you could afford it, bring your kids, but just come because you're

00:06:00.240 going to learn more than ever, and you don't have to go to any of that stuff.

00:06:03.880 You can just do all of the stuff on your own or, you know, just take the ship's tours,

00:06:08.480 but you can do it with us, too, and it's going to be a lot of fun.

00:06:11.980 Cruise Through History is taking place next year.

00:06:14.380 Go to comesailaway.com for all the details.

00:06:17.140 That's comesailaway.com.

00:06:19.660 Comesailaway.com.

00:06:20.460 Ah, I don't know.

00:06:26.020 So are we going to war with Iran?

00:06:32.240 I don't think so.

00:06:36.380 Because it would be not a good thing.

00:06:40.900 It would be much better for them to collapse like the Soviet Union did.

00:06:44.720 Uh, but, uh, Iran is, is in a box.

00:06:49.600 We've trapped them in this box and they, the Saudis yesterday said that they did hit those

00:06:56.340 Saudi oil tankers.

00:06:57.860 One of them was bringing oil to us.

00:06:59.940 So they're trying to disrupt the Middle East and they're trying to disrupt the global economy,

00:07:04.780 uh, and, and bring everybody down.

00:07:07.160 Um, yesterday looks like we have a plan now for 120,000 troops to go over to, uh, Iran for

00:07:15.800 an invasion.

00:07:16.440 But this is a, this is just a plan that they updated.

00:07:20.220 It doesn't mean that it's actually going to happen.

00:07:22.380 I'm hoping that it's not because it will not be easy and not that Iraq was easy, but it will

00:07:28.280 not be in Iraq.

00:07:29.440 Uh, it will be, it will be much bloodier and much worse.

00:07:34.600 Uh, Iran is just one step up, uh, it would say from Afghanistan and, uh, and, and from Iraq.

00:07:43.140 So I don't think we're going there.

00:07:46.020 I think Donald Trump is the president when it comes to foreign affairs.

00:07:51.580 He's the president that I've always wanted to have.

00:07:54.660 I've, I've always said, you know, the president needs to have like a twitchy eye, not with

00:07:59.940 our allies and not with us.

00:08:01.800 I, I want to know whose side he's on.

00:08:04.420 I want to know.

00:08:05.040 No, he wouldn't do that.

00:08:06.560 Uh, but the, the, the bad actors in the world should look at our president go, you know,

00:08:15.180 he's just crazy.

00:08:16.260 Now he just might do that.

00:08:18.740 And I think that works to our favor.

00:08:20.880 You want to be, you want to appear stable and yet just crazy enough to go, you know

00:08:26.880 what, let's do it.

00:08:29.540 And I think that's what he's doing, but I don't know.

00:08:33.780 Um, the, the tariffs are a good example of, he does keep his word.

00:08:39.480 You know, he has said, and this is one of the things that I was really concerned about

00:08:43.920 were these tariffs, uh, because that is the one thing he has said for 40 years.

00:08:49.920 He's for tariffs.

00:08:51.700 Uh, the free market is what has changed the world.

00:08:56.020 And whenever you get into a trade war, it usually leads to a hot war.

00:09:01.540 Uh, it is, it's what happened in world war two.

00:09:04.720 Uh, you just don't want to put tariffs up and that world war two, we put the tariffs

00:09:10.000 up and that was really the catalyst.

00:09:12.200 Now we were in a different situation, but that was the catalyst for the great depression.

00:09:16.740 Uh, the Smoot-Hawley act.

00:09:18.620 It was not good.

00:09:19.780 They never work out to anyone's favor.

00:09:23.120 Now, if the president is playing hardball, that's good.

00:09:28.420 However, it, it needs to change pretty quickly.

00:09:31.840 Uh, he's going to lose the farm vote and that's very concerning to me.

00:09:36.600 These farmers have been, you know, they have really been supportive of him all the, every

00:09:42.600 step of the way.

00:09:43.660 And when they were, you know, I mean, you want to talk about taking one for the team.

00:09:49.060 You see the movie Chernobyl.

00:09:51.240 Are you watching the mini series?

00:09:52.320 I've only seen the first episode.

00:09:53.520 Okay.

00:09:53.680 Don't spoil it for me.

00:09:54.540 I won't.

00:09:54.800 I won't.

00:09:55.180 I won't.

00:09:56.080 I won't.

00:09:56.560 Is there, is something go wrong with this plant?

00:09:58.620 Is that what happens?

00:09:59.460 Darn it, Glenn.

00:10:00.060 And yes, yes, spoiler alert.

00:10:04.120 Yeah.

00:10:04.380 So, well, I mean, everybody knows what's happening in that it's in the first episode and it's

00:10:09.440 a part of history anyway.

00:10:10.700 Um, but last night they were looking for volunteers to do things.

00:10:14.940 And one of the guys, uh, one of the Soviets said, they're all like, you're, you're crazy.

00:10:21.040 We're not doing that.

00:10:22.000 And he said, that's what we do.

00:10:26.360 That's what we've always do, uh, done.

00:10:29.120 And there is always a crisis in every generation.

00:10:32.380 And this is our generation's crisis and you will do it or millions will die.

00:10:38.800 Who wants to volunteer?

00:10:40.060 And they all knew they were volunteering for about 20 minutes of life.

00:10:43.020 And it's an amazing scene.

00:10:45.440 There really were legitimate heroes in that story that were Soviet citizens that stepped

00:10:50.980 up and did crazy stuff.

00:10:52.680 They never should have done.

00:10:53.940 All of the people that are involved, all the people that are now involved in the, in

00:10:57.900 the second, they're all starting to realize I'm dead soon.

00:11:01.920 And it's amazing what they do.

00:11:03.980 I only bring that up because I look at the farmers, the farmers, they've, they voted for

00:11:10.940 Donald Trump and they were willing to put their money and their livelihood where their

00:11:16.460 mouth was because they're the ones that were on the front line of these tariffs.

00:11:21.040 They're being destroyed right now.

00:11:24.180 Just destroyed.

00:11:25.100 Intentionally by China.

00:11:26.100 They're targeting, you know, red States and, and politically sensitive districts to target

00:11:32.320 the tariffs because they know it'll make a maximum impact.

00:11:35.080 Right.

00:11:35.320 And honestly, so far there, you know, the, the Trump administration has done two things.

00:11:40.020 One is say, well, we'll just take this tax money and redistribute it to those people.

00:11:44.560 I'm not sure what party that is.

00:11:45.980 I thought that was a Democrat thing to do to take tax money and redistribute it to their

00:11:49.300 chosen parties.

00:11:49.900 That's also central planning now.

00:11:51.560 Yeah.

00:11:51.880 That's very scary to me.

00:11:53.040 It's bad.

00:11:53.220 And secondarily though, and this is one I think has more, I don't know, to me, credibility

00:11:57.560 is, you know, the bottom line is where are they going to go?

00:12:01.120 Where are they going?

00:12:02.080 You're going to go vote for one of these people.

00:12:03.860 I mean, so, I mean, you know, yes, this policy is hurting them, but I mean, what are they

00:12:07.160 going to do?

00:12:07.620 I don't know.

00:12:08.260 Going to go for, going to go for, for Elizabeth Warren.

00:12:10.920 Yeah.

00:12:11.260 I mean, where are you going?

00:12:12.740 It's just bad.

00:12:13.900 It's just, it's going to create a forgotten man again.

00:12:18.500 Nobody's paying attention to the, the farmers who have taken one for the team.

00:12:22.800 They really have.

00:12:24.180 We might've paid higher prices on this or that.

00:12:27.500 They've taken one for the team.

00:12:29.180 They're about to lose their farms.

00:12:30.600 Uh, and we need to be grateful to the farmers and, and support our farmers because they

00:12:38.060 don't know what to do.

00:12:39.000 Now, Donald Trump said yesterday, well, we'll see what happens.

00:12:42.060 We're going to meet in June.

00:12:43.020 But I just want to point out after he got his trade deal with Mexico and Canada, he did

00:12:49.760 not remove the tariffs because he likes the tariffs.

00:12:52.980 He thinks it's good policy.

00:12:54.400 And he told us that a hundred thousand times, right?

00:12:56.600 I mean, he does believe it.

00:12:57.680 Right.

00:12:57.880 He was been, has been consistent on that for as long as he's been in the public eye.

00:13:00.760 Now people are concerned that China is going to dump our treasuries.

00:13:04.340 I don't think so because they've already done that and it hurt them.

00:13:09.360 Remember it was about a year ago.

00:13:10.800 They came out and said, we're getting out of the treasury business.

00:13:12.920 And they started dumping our treasuries.

00:13:15.360 It didn't hurt us.

00:13:16.900 It really hurt them.

00:13:19.380 So there's a chance that they've already learned that lesson.

00:13:22.940 They don't know if I want to do that.

00:13:25.720 Because they were the victim of that scheme that they did.

00:13:30.460 But this is why gold is up.

00:13:31.880 I think gold is having its best week in I don't even know how many years.

00:13:36.620 Bitcoin, they declared today, Bitcoin, the winter of crypto winter is over.

00:13:41.480 It's over.

00:13:43.560 And that is because people are starting to say, what I want to talk to you about today,

00:13:50.440 the new world order is being formed.

00:13:53.420 The old world order is gone.

00:13:58.520 And I don't think that it's coming back.

00:14:01.180 And that goes all the way to the court system.

00:14:04.500 It goes to our school systems.

00:14:07.060 I mean, look how much has changed.

00:14:09.520 Do you even recognize your country anymore?

00:14:14.000 Do you recognize?

00:14:15.280 Is the old world order still there?

00:14:18.860 It's been undermined at every step of the way.

00:14:22.160 It's faltering.

00:14:23.900 And it appears as though everyone is building something new.

00:14:29.540 And even basic things like personal responsibility and common sense are dead.

00:14:35.200 And I want to go there when we come back.

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00:16:13.680 All right, let me tell you, common sense is dead, personal responsibility is dead.

00:16:27.880 I want to start with a story, and I want to advocate on behalf of one Lindsay Glass.

00:16:33.640 Lindsay Glass.

00:16:34.620 Lindsay Glass is a woman who was arrested last week in Plano, Texas.

00:16:39.720 Right here.

00:16:40.200 Yes, right here, and she was, it was in relation to a mass shooting that happened a couple of years ago.

00:16:45.700 If you remember the story, a person went and they killed their estranged wife and seven other people.

00:16:52.960 Oh, yeah.

00:16:53.280 At a football watching party.

00:16:55.120 Remember that?

00:16:55.560 It was a deer watching the Cowboys.

00:16:56.700 Yeah.

00:16:57.220 So, she was arrested, Lindsay Glass, last week.

00:17:00.180 Why?

00:17:00.680 Because she violated a Texas alcoholic beverage code that prohibits sale to certain persons.

00:17:06.940 Okay?

00:17:07.120 She's a bartender.

00:17:08.580 She's working at a bar.

00:17:09.760 And this is, first of all, personal responsibility being dead.

00:17:14.000 This law is all over the country where bartenders get blamed if they serve too much alcohol to a patron.

00:17:21.080 Now, I understand the concept behind it.

00:17:24.200 However, it is not the bartender's responsibility how you use alcohol.

00:17:29.720 It is your responsibility how you use alcohol.

00:17:31.640 And you should be responsible for what you do when you have too much to drink, not the person who gave you the drinks.

00:17:39.920 And we know this because no liquor store gets in trouble for selling three bottles of Jack Daniels to some person who comes in and then goes out and drinks them all and does something terrible.

00:17:52.400 We don't do that.

00:17:53.020 We just expect 23 or 25-year-old people just to monitor the individual blood alcohol levels of everybody who comes into the bar every night.

00:18:01.260 That's all it is.

00:18:03.140 They're just responsible.

00:18:04.440 And for that, they do get paid the, what, 15, 20 bucks an hour with tips.

00:18:07.980 They just have to monitor blood alcohol level of every single patron that comes in.

00:18:11.900 That's craziness.

00:18:12.380 It's just craziness.

00:18:13.460 It's completely unfair.

00:18:14.400 I understand if it is somebody who is like, you know, I got a car keys and I'm just gonna, then you have a responsibility just as a human being to go, no more for you and I'm calling you a cab.

00:18:31.060 And I think it's a great idea for a restaurant to have that policy and to try to do the best they can to train people.

00:18:36.320 They have the right to refuse them, just like you have the right to go in and drink.

00:18:38.960 However, to legally hold someone responsible under criminal statute, especially if you are a functioning alcoholic, my blood levels had to have been massively high.

00:18:51.280 You've talked about this before.

00:18:52.400 How much did you drink every day when you were an alcoholic?

00:18:54.900 Oh, um, I don't even know, 16, 32, yeah, 32, 32 ounces at a sitting of pure Jack.

00:19:06.560 Well, didn't you splash a Coke, some Coke?

00:19:08.300 Well, yes, I did splash a little Coke.

00:19:10.360 I showed it the Coke can.

00:19:12.440 But so I used to do that, you know, in at five o'clock.

00:19:16.640 That's I just drink that back, just pour it in.

00:19:19.480 And no one would know that I was hammered.

00:19:22.960 When I got hammered, it was much more than that.

00:19:27.480 But nobody, your blood alcohol level must have been through the roof, through the roof.

00:19:31.460 And I did business with executives, hammered, and nobody even knew.

00:19:37.460 No one knew.

00:19:38.520 So how am I going to put a bartender?

00:19:42.040 The real dangerous ones are the ones that you can't tell because they're alcoholics.

00:19:49.040 Right, that's exactly, that's how that happens, right?

00:19:52.700 But let's just say for a moment, you don't buy that analysis, okay?

00:19:57.760 The bartender should be monitoring the individual blood alcohol levels of every patron that comes in.

00:20:02.460 And you think, okay, she served her too much, served this guy too much, and he went and he killed a bunch of people.

00:20:07.560 We have to hold her responsible.

00:20:08.800 In a minute, I want to give you the rest of the story of what else happened this night.

00:20:15.100 Because the fact that this woman may go to jail for a year for this is an absolute disgrace.

00:20:22.060 It is a disgrace.

00:20:22.640 I cannot believe it's happening in this country, number one.

00:20:25.520 But I cannot believe it's happening in freaking Texas.

00:20:29.280 In Texas, of all places, where we're supposed to be.

00:20:32.840 This is a place, we're like calling ourselves, we're calling ourselves a republic pretty much to this day.

00:20:37.200 And we are going to take personal responsibility so far out of what happened this evening.

00:20:44.540 We're going to throw this woman in jail.

00:20:47.980 And the story that is being told about her is completely the opposite of what actually happened.

00:20:53.740 It's an absolute disgrace.

00:20:55.720 And I would love to lay this out for you here in a minute.

00:20:57.420 Okay, we'll do that when we come back in just a minute.

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00:22:50.540 Welcome to the program.

00:22:51.660 There was a mass shooting, what, two years ago of people just watching a Dallas Cowboys game, and it turned out to be a, you know, a jilted ex-husband or estranged husband.

00:23:07.220 Right.

00:23:07.420 Now, he's gone to jail, right?

00:23:10.740 Or is he dead?

00:23:11.520 He's dead.

00:23:12.420 But now somebody else has gone to jail.

00:23:15.300 Somebody else is to blame.

00:23:16.740 And that is the bartender who served him before he left to murder his family.

00:23:23.480 Yes.

00:23:23.700 And so, my first case here is just basically, like, it's a ridiculous law.

00:23:29.180 When I went through training at a restaurant, they trained us on this.

00:23:31.280 You've got to make sure that, you know, no one is drunk, that you're serving drinks.

00:23:34.700 And it's just a ridiculous expectation.

00:23:36.480 Well, 19-year-olds should know, right?

00:23:38.460 The blood alcohol level of the patrons they're serving.

00:23:41.280 Right.

00:23:41.600 They should know that.

00:23:42.560 Yeah, of course.

00:23:43.560 They should be able to.

00:23:44.280 Intuitively.

00:23:44.740 Hundreds at a time, by the way.

00:23:45.660 Obviously, you can't, by law, test them.

00:23:47.560 But you should just look at them and know.

00:23:49.260 Yeah.

00:23:49.500 And even though you might be a server who's not even of age of drinking.

00:23:53.300 So, you would have legally no way to recognize what drunk even is.

00:23:58.020 Right.

00:23:58.240 That's nuts.

00:23:58.920 But that is the law.

00:24:00.200 And it's a ridiculous law.

00:24:01.160 And the ones that you're really worried about, you know, are the nice ones.

00:24:05.920 You know?

00:24:06.220 You're not worried about saying, oh, I'm sorry, sir, but I think you've had enough.

00:24:10.260 What the hell do you mean I've had enough?

00:24:12.680 That never, never happens.

00:24:15.700 Okay.

00:24:15.960 So, let me give you the rest of this.

00:24:17.340 Now, Glenn, as an alcoholic, you're talking about in recovery-ish.

00:24:22.360 Yes.

00:24:23.180 Finally, I'm an expert.

00:24:24.440 Yeah.

00:24:24.760 You're an expert on something.

00:24:26.880 Talking about if you believe this to be a legitimate law, okay?

00:24:30.920 The bartender, okay, this person's way over the line.

00:24:33.500 It's ridiculous.

00:24:34.300 How many drinks would you have to serve them, would you say?

00:24:37.220 I mean, 20?

00:24:39.140 Like, 12?

00:24:40.960 15?

00:24:41.320 It depends on how you're mixing them.

00:24:42.940 It depends on their size, their weight, and their tolerance.

00:24:48.400 So, let me add.

00:24:48.860 Tolerance changes for everybody.

00:24:50.320 It does.

00:24:50.600 You're expecting restaurant workers to judge that.

00:24:52.940 Right.

00:24:53.220 Of course.

00:24:53.700 That's a complicated biological.

00:24:56.080 You could have served me in a restaurant.

00:24:58.120 I could have ordered a Jack and Coke.

00:24:59.540 And it probably wouldn't have touched me until I had maybe eight.

00:25:04.920 Eight?

00:25:05.720 Yeah.

00:25:05.900 Okay.

00:25:06.200 And let's do it.

00:25:06.920 Because you're getting a little, you know, you're getting two fingers of Jack and that's

00:25:10.640 nothing.

00:25:11.340 Nothing to someone like you.

00:25:12.720 Correct.

00:25:13.300 So, let me give you the first piece of evidence here, beyond the fact that the law is ridiculous.

00:25:16.860 The man who did this murder was served five drinks.

00:25:22.960 Total.

00:25:24.240 He was served five drinks.

00:25:27.260 Over the time period of?

00:25:28.800 Great question.

00:25:30.820 But first, let me give you this.

00:25:32.380 Okay.

00:25:32.800 Lindsay Glass.

00:25:33.720 If it's a minute and a half.

00:25:35.080 Right.

00:25:35.380 Yes.

00:25:35.580 You might be onto something.

00:25:36.480 Okay.

00:25:37.140 But let me give you this.

00:25:38.440 Lindsay Glass, the woman who was charged here.

00:25:40.940 She's not gone to prison yet, but she's been charged with this crime.

00:25:43.640 She only served him four of the drinks.

00:25:45.160 So, now we're at a point where now we're charging this woman for essentially accessory

00:25:49.920 to a mass shooting because she served a guy four drinks.

00:25:53.100 What was she serving him?

00:25:54.800 I will give you that here in one second.

00:25:56.280 Okay.

00:25:57.240 Oh, the four drinks.

00:25:57.960 Here we go.

00:25:58.340 Two well gins and two beers.

00:26:01.280 That's nothing.

00:26:02.220 That's nothing.

00:26:03.300 For even the generic average drinker, that is nothing.

00:26:07.840 Now, let me give you more, though.

00:26:09.220 This was over two visits.

00:26:12.740 What?

00:26:13.460 Two visits to the bar.

00:26:15.160 Like in the same night?

00:26:15.940 In the same night.

00:26:16.700 Okay.

00:26:17.020 Here are the details.

00:26:17.960 The first visit was near 2.30 in the afternoon.

00:26:20.940 The second visit was four hours later.

00:26:23.940 Oh, this is ridiculous.

00:26:24.560 Get out of here.

00:26:25.880 So, now we're talking about she served four drinks over the course of four hours, which

00:26:30.660 you could, if nothing else happened, you could drive and not be near the legal limit

00:26:35.920 if you had four drinks in four hours.

00:26:37.820 That's like nothing.

00:26:38.200 Two beers is nothing.

00:26:39.180 Nothing.

00:26:39.560 Two beers.

00:26:40.620 I mean, I'm operating the lawnmower and not yet thinking, I can turn this thing over and

00:26:45.720 clean the place while it's on.

00:26:47.400 Right.

00:26:48.040 Now, it may now not occur to me that that would be a bad idea, but when I was drinking, no

00:27:00.040 problem.

00:27:00.500 Now, she suspected that he may have gone to another bar in between, okay?

00:27:06.100 Because he did, to her, appear to be a little tipsy.

00:27:09.480 Now, that's where it goes from there.

00:27:10.740 Uh, she actually texted a coworker, a guy named Timothy Banks, uh, from the bar about

00:27:16.100 her concern over his behavior and asked him to come to talk to the guy.

00:27:21.160 So, she's now taken an additional step.

00:27:23.080 She's texted a coworker, told him to come in and actually talk to the guy to make sure

00:27:26.460 everything was okay.

00:27:27.360 Did she serve the beers first or second?

00:27:30.160 Uh, second.

00:27:32.460 So, she's not even giving him hard liquor.

00:27:34.820 Right.

00:27:34.860 It's, it's, yeah.

00:27:35.960 She's concerned and, and so, and serving him beer.

00:27:40.120 Yeah.

00:27:40.860 Okay.

00:27:41.320 Now, she says, uh, he's, he's drunk and being weird and he keeps saying he has to put someone

00:27:46.440 in his place.

00:27:47.720 Now, this is the big evidence against her.

00:27:49.340 Now, look, that is very, if you take out all tough talk by people who are buzzed at

00:27:55.880 a bar, it will be like a library.

00:27:57.980 There will be no speaking going on.

00:27:59.980 Like, a bartender will tell you, they hear people say crap like that all the time.

00:28:04.540 It's a bar.

00:28:05.300 If you take out all tough talk and, and offensive talk, you have to get rid of almost everybody

00:28:12.200 in the new democratic party.

00:28:15.720 Exactly.

00:28:16.880 Okay.

00:28:17.400 So now, so now again, four drinks over four hours and two visits.

00:28:22.340 The last two were beers.

00:28:24.100 Uh, she does think he's drunk and she's a little worried.

00:28:27.300 She called, she texts a coworker, has him come in to actually talk to him to see if everything's

00:28:30.940 okay.

00:28:31.620 So then the guy tries to leave the bar.

00:28:34.540 She tries to stop him from leaving the bar.

00:28:38.140 Now, I don't know if this 27 year old woman is supposed to overpower him, tackle him, put

00:28:42.720 him in a stranglehold because he's sure she surely would have gone to prison for that.

00:28:46.560 If she had assaulted him, she tries to actually stop him from leaving the bar.

00:28:50.740 These are not facts that are, that she do that.

00:28:52.840 How'd she do that?

00:28:53.960 I mean, I guess they try to talk him out of it and say, no, you should stay.

00:28:57.840 And there's only a certain, there's only a certain amount you can do.

00:29:00.160 We have free will in this country.

00:29:01.380 You're allowed to leave places when you want to leave them.

00:29:03.680 Okay.

00:29:04.160 But again, if you say, all right, then she just gave up.

00:29:06.380 Well, that's just terrible.

00:29:07.200 And then he went and shot all these people.

00:29:08.520 No, she then left the bar to try to find him.

00:29:12.540 You gotta be kidding.

00:29:13.460 Okay.

00:29:13.800 So she leaves the bar and starts driving around trying to find this guy.

00:29:17.720 She's so concerned about it.

00:29:19.220 Okay.

00:29:19.660 So, all right.

00:29:20.180 Okay.

00:29:20.480 Well, she, that's it.

00:29:21.360 Well, she actually does find him.

00:29:23.840 She, she successfully locates this guy after he leaves the house and finds the guy at the

00:29:29.840 house that we're talking about where the mass shooting eventually goes on.

00:29:33.100 How did she know to go there?

00:29:34.660 Did she know the guy personally?

00:29:35.640 I guess he was a regular.

00:29:37.160 So he had been in there and she knew him.

00:29:39.400 She actually called him at one point, his, her friend.

00:29:42.420 Okay.

00:29:43.280 So what does she do then?

00:29:44.300 Okay.

00:29:44.560 If she finds the guy and then does nothing.

00:29:46.220 No.

00:29:46.880 She then calls 911.

00:29:48.880 Oh my gosh.

00:29:49.540 Calls 911 and reports that she has a friend in danger who was in possession of a gun and

00:29:56.280 a knife.

00:29:57.720 So she has gone like 10 steps past where she needs to go on this.

00:30:01.760 What was she supposed to do?

00:30:02.980 Right.

00:30:03.600 Then they go, uh, uh, they leave the house and, uh, Banks, the friend drives, uh, Glass

00:30:10.460 back to the bar.

00:30:11.200 Lindsay Glass is the person I'm talking about.

00:30:13.280 Um, then he, the person she initially texted to see if the situation was going to go, was

00:30:18.900 going to go, okay, goes back to the house again.

00:30:22.780 Then while he's on the way to the house, he flags down a uniformed county sheriff's

00:30:28.100 deputy and tells him about the, the concerning behavior.

00:30:32.220 At that point, they start getting ready to go over there and that's when the shooting

00:30:36.760 happens and, and, and everyone responds to go for the shoot.

00:30:40.140 How are they responsible at all?

00:30:42.740 Right.

00:30:43.280 I mean, everything they possibly could except make a citizen's arrest on the guy.

00:30:46.660 Exactly.

00:30:46.740 I think legitimately, I think legitimately Lindsay Glass in this situation should be

00:30:51.000 viewed as a hero.

00:30:52.840 I mean, this is a person who went way above and beyond what a normal person would be thought

00:30:57.320 of to be trying to stop.

00:30:58.760 She believes is dangerous who she knows is armed and, and, and had too much to drink.

00:31:03.460 And she's going out there trying to stop them at this house to make sure nothing bad

00:31:07.860 happens.

00:31:08.300 Can I tell you something?

00:31:08.920 She would be free today if she just didn't say anything and did nothing.

00:31:18.440 Yep.

00:31:18.920 If he just left and she said, I didn't notice.

00:31:21.460 He had four drinks, but because she alerted a coworker and then left the bar to go track

00:31:29.320 him down, expressed that she had concerns, right?

00:31:31.720 Because she was doing the right thing, trying to do the right thing, she's being penalized

00:31:38.880 for it.

00:31:39.260 If, if this is, you know, this, this, when you look at the former Soviet Union and any

00:31:46.940 places that have had dictatorial rule, your neighbors don't say anything.

00:31:52.760 They don't report on anything.

00:31:54.800 They never do anything.

00:31:57.040 They look, they say, they could see you being beaten to a bloody pump, a pulp, and they turn

00:32:02.780 their eyes and they move on because they don't want to get involved.

00:32:07.520 Why?

00:32:08.300 Because it's always used against them.

00:32:11.380 Here's this woman getting involved, trying to do the right thing as a human being.

00:32:17.120 And what happens?

00:32:18.340 Do you think the next bartender is going to do what she did?

00:32:22.760 Oh God.

00:32:23.640 Not with this outcome.

00:32:24.220 You just hope to look the other way and not notice.

00:32:26.400 It was four drinks, two beers, and over four hours.

00:32:30.340 And his blood alcohol level was very high.

00:32:33.060 However, four drinks over four hours almost doesn't change your blood alcohol level at

00:32:36.720 all.

00:32:37.340 You might have a 0.04, a 0.02.

00:32:41.180 Like you're going to have, you're not above the legal limit.

00:32:43.440 I mean, this is basic, you know, I remember being in health class when I was a kid and

00:32:47.620 they said, you know, basically one drink per hour is what your body will burn off.

00:32:51.720 So four drinks in four hours to her, everything that she served them probably didn't change

00:32:57.260 this guy's blood alcohol level at all.

00:32:59.100 And let me give you this last piece.

00:33:00.860 As this is all going on, this tragic shooting, she is brought in by deputies the night it's

00:33:07.340 going on.

00:33:08.180 In interviews with detectives, they commended her for her actions and the lives that she

00:33:12.820 saved.

00:33:13.640 Oh my gosh.

00:33:14.200 And now she might be going to jail for a year for this.

00:33:19.500 It is a disgrace.

00:33:21.260 So she hasn't been convicted yet?

00:33:23.080 No.

00:33:24.080 No.

00:33:24.420 And she shouldn't.

00:33:25.140 She's going to try.

00:33:26.020 She's being charged at all is impossibly ridiculous.

00:33:28.820 I can't believe a Texas jury would convict her.

00:33:32.360 A year and a half after this happened, they're trying to bring her into jail for this.

00:33:36.880 I mean, that is, this is, this is, it's inexplicable.

00:33:41.220 This is despicable.

00:33:42.920 This is the death of common sense.

00:33:44.620 Yes.

00:33:45.380 Just the death of common sense.

00:33:47.500 You want a new world order?

00:33:48.820 Here it is.

00:33:50.120 Here it is.

00:33:51.060 The death of personal responsibility.

00:33:52.960 The death of common sense.

00:33:54.380 I mean, looking at the facts here, what on earth do you expect a 25 year old bartender

00:34:00.380 to do in this situation?

00:34:01.980 What is she supposed to do?

00:34:04.080 She did 10 times more than I would even think of doing in that situation.

00:34:08.480 I would not, I'm not going to this guy's house.

00:34:10.980 No way.

00:34:11.320 When he's drunk and armed.

00:34:13.860 A woman going there, you know, she did have one guy with her, but still, I would not even

00:34:17.360 think of doing that.

00:34:18.620 That is like, it's so far above and beyond.

00:34:21.320 It's like saying like, you know, you pass a homeless person in the street and you might

00:34:24.400 give him, you know, some money.

00:34:25.680 It's like the, it's like a Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.

00:34:28.860 He like brings her into that, brings the homeless guy in the house, gives him soup,

00:34:32.460 tries to warm him up, gives him a place to stay and he keeps dying and he just can't

00:34:36.000 do anything about it.

00:34:36.820 Like, what the hell is she supposed to do?

00:34:39.780 She did way more than I think any citizen would normally do.

00:34:43.920 I have to tell you, I would have just called 911.

00:34:48.340 He walks out.

00:34:49.580 We tried to get him to stay.

00:34:50.400 At the most.

00:34:51.540 And there you go.

00:34:53.120 Yeah.

00:34:53.760 There you go.

00:34:54.340 Good luck.

00:34:54.900 I mean, because.

00:34:55.640 Same thing would have happened.

00:34:56.280 I would have not.

00:34:56.860 If you would have said, we got to go find this guy.

00:35:01.900 No.

00:35:02.640 What?

00:35:03.080 How?

00:35:03.640 If that was, if that was my girlfriend or my wife who told me that, I would say no way

00:35:08.120 or no way, honey.

00:35:09.860 Seriously.

00:35:10.360 This could be something.

00:35:11.060 Not in today's world.

00:35:11.620 Right.

00:35:11.920 Exactly.

00:35:12.560 Call the police.

00:35:13.660 Yeah.

00:35:13.980 And like, look, they're going to say that, like, that's what she maybe should have done

00:35:17.060 earlier.

00:35:17.500 But I mean, you know, look, this is someone she knew was seemingly a regular.

00:35:20.560 She tried to prevent.

00:35:21.760 She did everything she could.

00:35:22.780 And if she, let's just say she tried to get somebody else.

00:35:25.160 Hey, am I crazy?

00:35:26.160 That's the first thing you do.

00:35:28.040 The first thing you do, because we have the normalcy bias and our brain is telling us

00:35:34.400 it's fine.

00:35:34.980 You're not sensing that.

00:35:36.280 So the first thing we do is go, hey, is there something wrong with a reactor or is it just

00:35:42.980 me before Chernobyl blows?

00:35:45.740 Right.

00:35:46.140 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:47.320 You don't go, this thing's going to blow.

00:35:50.100 You go, hey, I'm thinking, I mean, this sounds crazy because it's not supposed to blow, but

00:35:57.320 do you think it might blow?

00:35:59.980 Yeah.

00:36:00.160 And she's going to the point where she's like pouring a pitcher of water over the core to

00:36:03.700 try to cool it down.

00:36:04.640 Yeah.

00:36:04.920 I mean, she goes way beyond.

00:36:06.000 Way beyond.

00:36:06.360 I mean, I just cannot believe in Texas of all places that they could look at that and

00:36:11.660 use any level of common sense and try to say that she did anything other than act heroically.

00:36:16.920 Let's get her attorney on.

00:36:17.940 Yeah.

00:36:18.160 All right.

00:36:18.320 I'd like to follow that case.

00:36:19.720 Thank you so much.

00:36:20.660 All right.

00:36:20.960 Thanks, Pat.

00:36:22.020 All right.

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00:37:27.100 So what is the justice that this prosecutor thinks is being served here?

00:37:32.580 I mean, because she did everything she could.

00:37:37.380 Even if she knew more, she knew that he had said, I'm going to go home and kill my family.

00:37:42.860 She called 911.

00:37:44.540 Yeah.

00:37:45.180 I mean, ran all around the town.

00:37:47.320 Where's the what justice is this prosecutor looking for?

00:37:51.500 That she served him four drinks?

00:37:54.500 That sounds to me like a technicality because those four drinks did not put him over the edge.

00:38:01.000 No, he was way over the edge anyway.

00:38:02.380 And the four drinks did nothing.

00:38:03.700 And remember, he showed up four hours later.

00:38:05.820 So the period between the first drink and the time where the shooting happens is probably six hours.

00:38:13.760 Now, any four drinks in six hours is like literally like you are absolutely okay to drive with that level.

00:38:20.640 And two of them are beer.

00:38:22.520 Right.

00:38:22.740 And two of them are beer, which, you know, depending.

00:38:24.500 So bottom line is, I think that's the biggest question.

00:38:28.260 If you want to get her on a technicality because she had the audacity to be honest and try to tell her friend,

00:38:33.660 hey, I think someone might be drunk here.

00:38:35.400 He's acting a little weird.

00:38:36.700 Can you come in?

00:38:37.480 And because they got her on a text, they're going to say, well, she knew he was drunk and she served him two drinks.

00:38:42.800 But she tried to stop him from leaving.

00:38:46.020 Look at the giant story.

00:38:46.420 She called 911.

00:38:48.400 Yep.

00:38:49.100 Her friend stopped a cop.

00:38:51.620 Yeah.

00:38:52.000 Tried to get him involved.

00:38:53.140 She went to his house.

00:38:54.460 She brought in other people to help.

00:38:56.040 Right.

00:38:56.240 I mean, she's done.

00:38:57.300 So I'm trying to figure out what the case.

00:39:00.360 You know, the law is supposed to be about justice.

00:39:06.080 Yeah.

00:39:06.280 You know, punishing people for doing wrong, but also blending that with mercy.

00:39:13.260 You know, just because she served somebody she might have thought was drunk.

00:39:18.960 Look at everything she did around her.

00:39:21.240 It's like, you know, she was multitasking.

00:39:23.580 This is not her only customer that day.

00:39:26.740 What else was she supposed to do?

00:39:30.000 It's it defies logic and it defies the Republic of Texas, I think.

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00:40:49.220 It doesn't seem like anyone can really define what is happening on the right.

00:40:57.440 We have media sources that want to define it a certain way, that it's that it's it's all just driven by Nazi ideology.

00:41:06.280 Then they completely, you know, refuse to look at what's happening, the civil war in the Democratic Party, which is fueled in many ways by socialism and in some cases, communism.

00:41:26.400 So what is the new right?

00:41:30.000 Is there a new right?

00:41:32.000 What does Donald Trump mean to the right?

00:41:35.260 What's happening?

00:41:37.520 One guy, Michael Malice, says he knows what it is.

00:41:41.180 He's put it together in a book.

00:41:42.840 The new right.

00:41:43.720 We go there in one minute.

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00:43:41.880 Yeah, if you're waiting on a better day,

00:43:44.880 You might want to mate a little bit longer as I don't I'm not sure Michael Malice is the the guy who's going to deliver the message that we're like, oh, well, everything's going to be sunshine and lollipop soon because he does not believe that politics really is going to change.

00:44:02.920 It's going to remain nasty in the future.

00:44:05.900 His new book is The New Right.

00:44:08.600 Michael Malice.

00:44:09.500 He is also the the author of what is the Kim Jong ill book?

00:44:14.880 That we always talk about dear leader.

00:44:17.320 And he's great.

00:44:18.560 He's funny and he's a friend of the program.

00:44:20.760 Welcome, Michael Malice.

00:44:21.900 How are you, sir?

00:44:23.140 Good morning.

00:44:23.980 It is not sunny here in Brooklyn.

00:44:25.560 I can hear you.

00:44:26.440 I bet.

00:44:27.260 I bet.

00:44:28.020 OK, so, Michael, I started reading.

00:44:30.580 I haven't finished it, but I've started reading it and I've I've kind of picked through it and I'm not sure I agree with you.

00:44:37.260 So I want you to set it out from the beginning.

00:44:40.420 Tell me what tell me what you are defining the new right as.

00:44:45.100 OK, I got very kind of technical with the definition.

00:44:48.540 I define the new right as a loosely connected group of individuals united by their opposition to progressivism, which they perceive to be a thinly veiled religion dedicated to egalitarian principles and intent on world domination via globalist hegemony.

00:45:08.440 I mean, yeah, so I think that's that does capture.

00:45:14.640 I think there is a lot of that.

00:45:16.460 I mean, it's the loosely connected part, I think, is really important there because there are a lot of different reasons why they oppose it.

00:45:23.120 And correct.

00:45:23.700 But yeah, I think that's that's largely true.

00:45:25.960 That would include people like identitarians, which I think their solutions are not good, but I think their complaints are valid.

00:45:37.020 And that's the problem.

00:45:38.060 A lot of these not all of them, obviously, not all of them, not all of them, not all of them, not any blanket statements here.

00:45:43.180 Yeah, we should.

00:45:44.780 I'm sorry.

00:45:45.420 I was thinking we were living in a reasonable world still when people feel like the the nation, whatever nation they live in.

00:45:53.560 I mean, this is happening all over the world, that their nation is being destroyed by globalism and not a globalism of, hey, let's just buy products from each other.

00:46:03.380 A globalism that says your country is valueless.

00:46:08.340 It doesn't.

00:46:09.200 It's no different than anything else.

00:46:11.640 I'm sorry, Italy.

00:46:13.040 Stop talking about spaghetti.

00:46:15.840 You know, you're not special.

00:46:17.900 That that is a driver for a lot of people that feel like we're losing the things that I'm proud of, of my country.

00:46:27.420 And and what I talk about in the book is how did we get to this point?

00:46:32.100 So, you know, in a broader sense, the new right can be regarded as the unorthodox right wing.

00:46:36.740 And these are the people and types who are basically driven out of the mainstream.

00:46:41.440 How do we get to the point where this what you and many other people are fighting is taking place all over the world?

00:46:49.580 And it's not just Italy.

00:46:50.840 You know, stop talking about spaghetti and Italy doesn't matter.

00:46:53.940 It's that you individually don't matter anywhere you go.

00:46:57.740 And not only that, which I discuss, if you talk about video games, if you talk about movies, if you talk about places that don't exist and escaping the earth, even there, these ideas have to be promulgated by the what I call the evangelical left.

00:47:14.140 So what I criticize conservatives about, and let me just take a step back, because a lot of people think, oh, if you criticize conservatives, you must be an AOC supporter.

00:47:22.540 That's not how it works.

00:47:24.840 Conservatives, I think, are a little naive about the nature of who they're opposing.

00:47:29.760 They think there's room to reason with these people, that they're like journalists are sloppy or making mistakes.

00:47:36.640 And the point I demonstrate is these so-called mistakes have been made the same exact way for over 100 years.

00:47:45.280 So if you keep making the same mistake in the same exact way, at what point does it become a pattern and a decision?

00:47:52.440 So, Michael, let me go a step deeper with the new right, because there is the alt right, which is an alternative to the right.

00:48:04.120 And that is, they are just as big government and socialists.

00:48:09.540 Many of them are just nationalists, but they don't believe in the Bill of Rights.

00:48:14.060 They don't believe in the Constitution.

00:48:16.060 You know, these neo-Nazis, you know, you listen to Richard Spencer, and that's exactly what he's saying.

00:48:22.340 No, no, no, I don't believe in the Bill of Rights.

00:48:24.320 No, I'm for universal health care.

00:48:27.080 So he is a national socialist.

00:48:30.200 So how do you divide those two?

00:48:32.260 Yeah, I was in Charlottesville, and I talk about that in my book, and I'm Jewish, and I'm an immigrant.

00:48:38.980 And, you know, I was not invited to some of the parties, for obvious reasons.

00:48:43.260 So what the progressives would love to have is the idea that you and I and Stu, we're all neo-Nazis simply because we disagree with them.

00:48:53.640 And it's a very useful technique for them, and here's how their logic works.

00:48:58.140 Anyone, racism has no place in civilized society.

00:49:01.680 Okay, we can get a board with that.

00:49:03.200 Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist.

00:49:06.140 Therefore, anyone who disagrees with me has no place in civilized society.

00:49:10.200 One of the things I point out in this book, which will drive them crazy, is more white nationalists and white supremacists fought the Nazis than urban feminists during World War II.

00:49:19.280 So to have everyone in this big, giant box is very convenient for them.

00:49:24.500 And again, this happens at the university level, and it happens at the media level.

00:49:29.080 And one of the things I discussed, which I don't think conservatives really have an answer for,

00:49:33.840 how is it that they so dominate the media and the universities?

00:49:39.260 And government becomes a consequence.

00:49:41.060 Andrew Breitbart, who I'm sure you have very kind things to say about,

00:49:44.820 made that realization that politics is downstream from culture.

00:49:47.940 And when so much of conservative thought is about Washington, my point in this book is,

00:49:53.680 if you're dealing with it at the Washington level, you've already lost.

00:49:56.740 Yes.

00:49:57.060 That's the fourth quarter.

00:49:58.420 Yes.

00:49:59.800 And I totally agree with that analysis.

00:50:02.700 I mean, that is, it is a huge problem, I think, for whatever is left of the conservative movement,

00:50:08.920 or whatever part of it is real anymore.

00:50:11.220 So are you saying, Michael, that you would, that the new right is a replacement for the old right,

00:50:18.020 or is it just a new branch of what we used to kind of look at as the conservative movement in general?

00:50:22.820 I would think the new right is in many ways opposed to the conservative movement.

00:50:27.980 And I talk about it, the past conservative movement, and I talk about how Buckley and the National Review

00:50:33.300 have for decades, you know, read people out of the movement, you know, driven them from a respectful society,

00:50:39.340 and are using tactics that, you know, very leftist tactics.

00:50:43.060 And that's no surprise, because they have their roots in literal, like, Trotskyist communists.

00:50:48.280 James Burnham, you know, we're going old school here, was one of the original National Review people.

00:50:52.340 He was friends with Trotsky, and so on and so forth.

00:50:54.760 So I discuss how, and it happens now, you have the Bill Kristol types, and so on and so forth,

00:50:59.600 who would love to drive everyone out of the movement and off the face of the earth.

00:51:04.920 Well, he's a progressive Republican.

00:51:09.020 I mean, that's the thing that the right refuses to look at, is that the progressive movement came from Theodore Roosevelt.

00:51:16.820 I mean, you know, he didn't invent it, but he was the one who first really popularized it,

00:51:22.020 and it was the progressive party that he started, and both sides adopted it.

00:51:29.540 Both sides were progressive.

00:51:31.820 Glenn, you and I, last time, another time I was on, you and I were bonding over our hatred of Woodrow Wilson.

00:51:36.280 Yeah.

00:51:37.760 Right?

00:51:38.400 Right.

00:51:38.600 The conservatives at their best are about studying history and applying those lessons to today.

00:51:43.980 So this conservative idea that it's only been recently that progressivism has taken place in America,

00:51:49.620 I debunk that in this book, because as you and I know, Woodrow Wilson is 100 years ago,

00:51:54.440 and he was far more progressive than anyone out there today.

00:51:59.040 He really was messianic and said explicitly that he was sent here by God to save the world and to save us from ourselves.

00:52:06.180 It's a very disturbing approach.

00:52:08.960 So the idea that it's only been since the 60s that this has been going on is false,

00:52:14.280 and I especially talk about in context of universities, and I talk about how, you know,

00:52:19.220 since the 1890s, people came over from Germany with the intent of creating an elite to control and dominate American culture,

00:52:28.400 and it's been going on for over 100 years.

00:52:30.240 This is not a recent phenomenon.

00:52:31.680 Yeah, I mean, that's why John Hopkins University, Johns Hopkins University, was founded.

00:52:38.500 It was started.

00:52:39.380 It was the first progressive university meant to take what was being taught in Heidelberg and bring it here to the United States.

00:52:48.820 I mean, it's been going on for a very long time.

00:52:52.460 And the other key thing to understand is Wilson and many of these types have the roots in the social gospel.

00:52:58.140 And this idea is that instead of saving an individual's soul, it is a nation that has to be saved and purified from sin.

00:53:06.220 And when that is your approach to a country, that means there is no room anywhere for people to have sinful, i.e. incorrect, i.e. not progressive views.

00:53:16.640 And that is why they're such, in a sense, jihadis when it comes to anyone that they don't like.

00:53:23.200 So how do you separate out on the new right?

00:53:28.480 How do you separate those people who don't like progressive, you know, policies, but seem to accept it, you know, from themselves?

00:53:39.660 I mean, where is the line, you know, because there's a lot of people right now on the right that are falling into the trap of progressivism, and it's my way or the highway, and they're not really basing anything in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

00:53:57.840 Sure. I mean, you could be a socialist or a Marxist or not be a progressive and so on and so forth.

00:54:03.300 And many of them are very, very pro-big government in a sense that you and I would find anathema and horrible.

00:54:09.400 And I engage with them in this book.

00:54:11.380 I sat down with these identities, Jared Taylor, who's a big, you know, racist realist and some Nazis I talked to.

00:54:18.080 And I think it's important to air out these ideas and engage them and fight them, because otherwise the accusations of, well, you're making your fellow traveling with these types, it's like, well, no, I'm showing you I'm doing a better job of arguing with them than you are, because I'm showing where their ideas are wrong instead of just dismissing them.

00:54:39.520 And what happens is when you drive ideas underground, young kids who want to upset people and be trolls and be edgy and cool, they are drawn to it.

00:54:48.000 It's like telling kids, don't smoke cigarettes. You know, that'll upset me. It's like, oh, yeah, where can I get some Camel?

00:54:54.080 So it's happening in current culture, and they don't even realize what they're doing. And I'm in some way putting a stop.

00:55:03.020 So, okay, so, Michael, we're talking to Michael Malice, the author of the new book, The New Right, A Journey into the Fringe of American Politics.

00:55:12.240 I'm going to take a one minute break, and then I want to come back, and I want you to kind of, can you cut up the right and tell me all of the little pieces that are involved and where the new right fits in all of this when we come back?

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00:58:03.180 So, Michael, how do you chop up the right and separate people who are anarchists? I mean, I think you're an ant. Aren't you a self-described anarchist?

00:58:25.340 Absolutely. I wave that black flag proudly.

00:58:28.120 So, the ones that want to just have chaos, you don't want to have chaos in the streets.

00:58:38.320 Chaos in the streets is a function of government because streets are owned by the government.

00:58:44.020 Okay.

00:58:45.040 There you go.

00:58:46.180 You don't have chaos in your house.

00:58:48.340 That's true.

00:58:49.340 So, how do you separate...

00:58:51.800 Oh, you haven't seen my house, Michael. Sometimes there is chaos. I have two small children.

00:58:55.840 Wait until you have teenagers.

00:58:57.060 Oh, it's fun.

00:59:00.160 I'm glad to be in the riots in the street every night.

00:59:04.060 But, Michael, explain to me, like, where do we fit in the right? Are we part of the new right?

00:59:12.820 I'm talking about me personally.

00:59:15.000 I understand. Do you agree with that definition?

00:59:17.760 Do you regard progressivism as a thinly veiled religion dedicated to world domination?

00:59:23.520 Yes.

00:59:23.860 Then, yeah.

00:59:25.780 Do you think that it's a problem that organizations like National Review have for decades been kicking people out of politics for the sake of, you know, people on the left?

00:59:39.060 Yes.

00:59:40.100 Yes.

00:59:41.220 Yeah.

00:59:42.220 And if you regard...

00:59:43.300 Here's how the real litmus test for the new right.

00:59:45.680 If you unambiguously regard Woodrow Wilson as, by far, the most evil man to be president, I think that's a good litmus test.

00:59:54.480 And that I know you're not...

00:59:54.900 Okay, so try this on Versailles.

00:59:56.680 You know who agrees with you?

00:59:58.420 Who?

00:59:59.640 Samantha Bee.

01:00:01.420 When I talked to her about a year and a half ago, she went off.

01:00:05.400 She was like, I know you hate Woodrow Wilson.

01:00:07.420 Her and her producer.

01:00:08.640 I know you hate Woodrow Wilson.

01:00:10.020 He's a racist.

01:00:10.600 What?

01:00:11.420 She hates him because he's a racist.

01:00:13.100 She doesn't hate him for his progressivism.

01:00:15.700 I'm not sure.

01:00:17.220 We talked a lot about...

01:00:18.500 Well, we did talk a lot about eugenics, so I guess, yeah, it's probably racism.

01:00:23.660 Probably.

01:00:23.960 Well, the other thing that's important about Woodrow Wilson is it's not a coincidence that he was a college university professor...

01:00:31.960 Oh, I know.

01:00:32.520 ...president of Princeton before he became president.

01:00:34.460 And I talk in this book extensively about the universities and how they're the real problem.

01:00:40.700 And this is something that conservatives are kind of aware of, and they talk about, you know, things going on on campus.

01:00:46.100 And my point is, the root, the rot, goes far deeper than kids acting out.

01:00:53.160 I mean, these kids are being trained in this way.

01:00:56.140 Oh, I know they are.

01:00:56.760 And the chickens are coming home to roots.

01:00:58.300 Yeah.

01:00:58.820 Well, I don't think a lot of conservatives do because historically, you know, and this is what I talk in the book is, you know, this was the idea of my kid's the first one to go to college.

01:01:08.260 It's this middle class aspiration.

01:01:10.280 And it was a great, great thing.

01:01:11.980 And now people are coming to realize, thankfully, that you have this beautiful young 18-year-old girl going to school.

01:01:19.180 And four years later, she comes home as a swamp walrus.

01:01:22.680 And you can't even have conversations with each other over dinner.

01:01:26.560 I love you.

01:01:27.660 But you know what, Michael?

01:01:30.440 Even in my home, this is probably the biggest argument we have in my home with me and Tanya, my wife.

01:01:39.800 She says kids have got to go to college.

01:01:42.280 And I'm like, over my dead body.

01:01:44.940 And she's like, I'm willing to kill you.

01:01:48.040 But it is, it is, I mean, I cannot find a reason to fund the swamp walrus training for my kids.

01:01:58.920 More with Michael in a minute.

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01:03:24.440 Right now, we're talking to the author of the book, The New Right, Michael Malice.

01:03:28.920 He's a friend of the program, been on several times.

01:03:31.640 Very funny.

01:03:32.240 Very, very insightful.

01:03:33.880 But, Michael, I want to go back to your definition of who fits in the alt-right.

01:03:39.780 The new right.

01:03:40.480 Sorry, the new right.

01:03:42.200 Because the new right could include, well, it does include, I would imagine, that would

01:03:50.880 include people like Alex Jones.

01:03:52.700 And Alex and I disagree on 98% of things, I think.

01:03:59.440 However, we do agree, probably, on your definition.

01:04:05.720 But that is more of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

01:04:09.940 And that's good to destroy.

01:04:12.400 But a conservative conserves and doesn't want to destroy the good things that remain.

01:04:19.540 And I'm more about building a new future than destroying.

01:04:23.320 Well, sure.

01:04:25.520 I think the 2% you and Alex would agree upon is probably the most important 2%, and which

01:04:31.000 I discuss at length, which is we are being lied to, that we have been being lied to for

01:04:37.520 a very long time, and what is the nature of this narrative that's being constructed in

01:04:42.460 front of us?

01:04:43.320 But when we even get to that 2%, what we're being lied to, I mean, I'm not going, I don't

01:04:49.780 think we're being, I don't think everything is a false flag.

01:04:52.380 He does.

01:04:52.880 Oh, I agree with you completely.

01:04:55.680 What I meant by that 2% is not what you're being lied to about, is that this mechanism

01:04:59.820 is being done intentionally, and systemically, and pervasively.

01:05:04.320 That this isn't a coincidence or an accident.

01:05:07.780 And once people start looking, and that's the problem, and that's the problem I grapple

01:05:11.340 with in the book, because once you take that one red pill, like in The Matrix, and you see,

01:05:16.340 okay, I'm being lied to, you take one red pill, not the whole bottle.

01:05:19.500 Because once you start thinking more and more things are lies, you get to the point

01:05:24.820 to full-blown Holocaust denial, because everything is a lie.

01:05:28.440 So that is something that I address and grapple with.

01:05:31.800 What do you do once you realize that the media is manipulative and lying, but there comes a

01:05:37.840 point where you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:05:39.000 Now I've gone too far in the other direction.

01:05:41.680 I got it, I got it.

01:05:42.120 That's very good.

01:05:43.420 That's very good.

01:05:44.060 Really interesting.

01:05:44.740 I mean, the book is worth it just for, I think, the creation of a potential TV series

01:05:49.480 of Michael Malice Talks to the Nazis, which is something I would absolutely watch.

01:05:52.920 I would too.

01:05:53.600 That would be fantastic.

01:05:54.700 I would too.

01:05:54.820 But I mean, I would just be riveting, riveting television.

01:05:58.920 But I wanted to ask you, Michael, so when you, because it's interesting looking at the

01:06:02.060 book and the way you talk about, about, about these groups, and you're describing, I think,

01:06:06.200 something real that is happening right now.

01:06:08.780 Do you see this as an endorsement?

01:06:11.220 Do you see this as a warning?

01:06:12.400 Or do you just see this as, hey, everybody, wake up.

01:06:15.080 This is what's happening right now.

01:06:16.760 I, I, personally, I wrote a book to be entertaining.

01:06:18.760 I think if you're writing a book about politics and you get people to laugh and be engaged

01:06:22.620 and you could be on the beach or in the bathroom, you've accomplished something.

01:06:25.520 That's, that's number one.

01:06:26.380 Sure.

01:06:26.640 Number two is, it's the kind of thing where, you know, if, if someone has, is having an

01:06:31.500 affair and the wife looks the other way, this book is, you can't pretend you don't

01:06:35.060 know anymore.

01:06:35.840 This book is exposing what is going on and forcing people to confront the very dark realities

01:06:41.780 of our politics and our cultural war in a way that I think it's going to make some

01:06:45.660 people uncomfortable because it's really scary to realize just how, uh, totalitarian

01:06:51.980 the opposition is.

01:06:53.360 And let me give you, let me use, use an example, the argument with, you know, they block people

01:06:56.840 from Twitter, from PayPal, right?

01:06:58.380 They say, go make your own network.

01:07:00.000 If you don't like it, it's fiber property.

01:07:01.560 And Glenn Beck said, all right, I made the blaze.

01:07:04.140 And now if they had their druthers, they would drive the blaze out of business.

01:07:06.980 Yes.

01:07:07.640 So they, it's not, it's a, it's a lie.

01:07:10.180 So I also talk about the techniques that the evangelical left uses to further their

01:07:16.420 control of American and world domination, because it's not about, you know, if you're

01:07:20.920 arguing about, you know, transgender bathrooms or, you know, immigration from Muslim countries,

01:07:25.300 this is a distraction.

01:07:26.500 As soon as that issue is done, they're going to find something else because it's always

01:07:30.460 about furthering their power.

01:07:33.500 Yeah.

01:07:33.680 It's, that's the, that's the biggest problem is people think that they're dealing with

01:07:38.600 honest brokers and they're not, they're not honest brokers.

01:07:42.980 Um, you know, and because it is a barely disguised religion, once you think of yourself

01:07:48.500 as saved, then you are allowed to do anything you want because you're doing it in the service

01:07:53.960 of what you perceive to be the good C.S.

01:07:56.580 Lewis, who I'm sure you're a fan of, who's a great, great philosopher.

01:07:59.700 I have a quote from him in the book where he says, I'd rather be under the control of people

01:08:04.500 who are corrupt than a bit moral busybody because the corrupt person will at least sleep

01:08:10.000 at night, whereas the busybody will never tire because he's fueled by his own self-righteous

01:08:15.260 conscience.

01:08:16.360 And that is something people need to understand.

01:08:18.680 This is a totalitarian faith for these types and they will never let you rest.

01:08:25.880 Michael, um, thank you so much for your hard work and thank you for being on the, uh, the

01:08:30.500 program, uh, we'll, uh, we'll talk again.

01:08:33.100 The name of the book is The New Right, A Journey into the Fringe of American Politics by Michael

01:08:40.000 Malice, a great, great writer that you really do enjoy reading his books.

01:08:45.440 Thank you, Michael.

01:08:46.240 Appreciate it.

01:08:46.780 Thank you so much.

01:08:47.360 Always a pleasure.

01:08:47.980 You bet.

01:08:48.260 God bless.

01:08:51.320 Some very important news on the Dow and also what's happening with China, with the trade

01:08:56.520 bill and farmers.

01:08:58.920 God bless you, man.

01:08:59.820 We are praying for you.

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01:10:57.360 Dan Eikenson is, uh, with us.

01:10:58.980 He's the director of trade policy, policy studies at the Cato Institute.

01:11:03.680 Um, and I wanted to bring him on because I'm, I'm very concerned about what this trade war

01:11:09.840 is, is leading us to.

01:11:12.400 Um, and, uh, and Dan is here to explain, welcome to the program, Dan, uh, how, uh, how, how deep

01:11:21.860 in the madness are we here with this trade war with China?

01:11:25.920 Well, we are, uh, on the verge of, uh, tariffing each other's products, uh, out of existence.

01:11:32.940 I mean, the Trump administration has announced that it will extend tariffs on all products,

01:11:39.080 uh, by next month if the deal is not reached.

01:11:41.960 The Chinese are already close to, uh, tariffing all of our products, and my concern is that,

01:11:48.320 uh, this can spiral out of control without, uh, even if there's some, some, uh, sense to

01:11:55.060 this, and even if there's some plan to try to pull back and reach some deal, and this

01:11:59.220 is all negotiating tactics, it could spiral out of control.

01:12:01.940 There's a lot of politics at play, a lot of, what, what does that, what does that mean?

01:12:05.200 Spiral out of control to what?

01:12:07.900 So right now the United States exports about 120, 130 billion dollars a year, uh, you know,

01:12:13.160 us exporters to China, but we have companies there that, that generate revenues of about

01:12:17.840 500 billion.

01:12:19.300 And, uh, they are being compelled, I think, by the Trump administration to reconsider where

01:12:24.900 they're investing.

01:12:25.480 So they may shift their supply chains, they may try to bring them home, which, ultimately

01:12:30.340 what's going to happen is that the costs of, of production for U.S. businesses are going

01:12:34.860 to rise dramatically, it's going to cause profits to shrink, revenues for U.S. exporters are going

01:12:39.880 to, are going to shrink, that's going to also put downward pressure on profits.

01:12:43.440 If businesses don't have profits, they can't invest, and they can't hire.

01:12:47.340 Uh, so, like, we'll likely see some economic contraction, and we will likely see the, the global

01:12:52.240 economy kind of breaking up, bifurcating into, into two segments, two blocks, those that fall

01:12:57.360 within sort of China's ambit, and those that, that we continue to woo, and boy, it's, it's

01:13:02.660 hard to woo countries nowadays, uh, considering how we've poked many of them in the eyes, uh,

01:13:07.100 with respect to our, our trading policies.

01:13:09.980 So, uh, you know, if you, if you look at the, the cycle, uh, that leads to war, usually

01:13:17.720 the last thing before, uh, war, actual war happens is, um, is a trade war.

01:13:25.640 This is the worst one I think I've seen in my lifetime, at least the one that I can remember.

01:13:30.780 Um, and I'm torn on, I'm not torn on Mexico or Europe or Canada, uh, wrong.

01:13:37.440 Um, however, China has really bad practices, um, and they are, I think, are the biggest

01:13:47.480 enemy of not America, but of, of freedom of mankind out there.

01:13:52.520 And while I don't like the tariffs, uh, I also don't like really doing a lot of business

01:13:59.200 with, with China, uh, because they're just, they're very bad actors.

01:14:03.980 Certainly the China of, uh, 2019 is very different than the China of say 2001 when it sort of joined

01:14:12.220 the global economy and joined the world trade organization.

01:14:14.540 It was a poor country at the time that was trying to make amends for a lot of bad economic

01:14:18.420 policies, bad social policies.

01:14:20.900 And there was a hope that, that China would become more like us and open up and, and, and

01:14:26.260 capitalism would prevail.

01:14:27.740 And now they have a president who's president for life.

01:14:30.100 Uh, he has, uh, um, he, he surveils his population, he exports surveillance, uh, equipment around

01:14:36.480 the world.

01:14:36.960 He's got concentration camps.

01:14:38.880 Uh, and so, yes, we need to be a little bit more skeptical of China, but at the same

01:14:43.880 time, we don't want this to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

01:14:46.620 It's, I mean, the Chinese people, I think, uh, uh, will suffer from, uh, you know, if we,

01:14:51.700 if we turn our backs on each other and we, you know, we, it's, it's not them.

01:14:55.440 It's, it's, it's a regime that might be under pressure from this trade war, uh, which is

01:15:01.340 likely to spark, you know, to inspire nationalism, uh, as the economy starts to go south in China.

01:15:08.740 Uh, but ultimately, uh, I think Chinese people are peace loving and would like to, uh, have,

01:15:15.180 uh, uh, mutually beneficial relations.

01:15:17.420 And we all are that way.

01:15:18.780 Generally speaking, I think we're all that way.

01:15:20.600 Sometimes politics and politicians are not that way, but I think generally speaking, the

01:15:24.800 average person on earth is just like, I just want to be left alone, man.

01:15:28.300 Right.

01:15:28.860 Um, go ahead.

01:15:30.540 I was just going to say that, you know, even if this trade war were to end and the Chinese

01:15:34.740 were to accept all of the Trump administration's demands, and many of those demands, I think,

01:15:39.000 are legitimate.

01:15:40.220 And China's doing certain things that it was, that it shouldn't be doing.

01:15:43.940 Uh, they need to abide by the commitments that they have made.

01:15:46.500 In some areas where the president is pushing for the Chinese to buy more U.S. products,

01:15:50.900 I don't think that that is necessary.

01:15:52.860 China's not doing anything wrong there.

01:15:54.400 But if, if they were to agree to everything, we would still have the problem that the United

01:15:58.680 States is the technologically preeminent economy in the world, and China wants to get there.

01:16:03.560 And there are first mover advantages to being, you know, to, to, to, to, to, to being dominant

01:16:07.660 in a particular technology that has military and security applications.

01:16:11.760 Uh, so there's going to be this, I'm concerned that there's going to be this sort of cold

01:16:16.420 war, uh, uh, dynamic that plays out because we're going to want to prevent them from getting

01:16:20.980 there.

01:16:21.320 They're going to do it, whatever it takes to get there to the technological four.

01:16:24.280 And that, that spells, um, you know, a lot of, uh, that spells trouble for me.

01:16:29.300 Dan, there's a couple of new studies out.

01:16:30.880 One says that the washers and dryers that they put tariffs on, uh, it, uh, added $200 of

01:16:36.900 cost to a washer dryer set.

01:16:38.460 Plus, uh, it's cost over $800,000 per job, uh, that it created.

01:16:43.880 Same as steel, $900,000 per job.

01:16:46.060 Yeah.

01:16:46.300 And it seems to be very consistent.

01:16:47.740 Also, they're now saying that the, the tariffs, if implemented as threatened, uh, would now

01:16:52.300 overwhelm the entire benefit of the tax bill that was passed in 2017.

01:16:57.700 Are those, those line up with, with what you see going on?

01:17:00.980 Are those accurate numbers?

01:17:02.560 Uh, I've seen those studies and, uh, I don't doubt them.

01:17:06.160 Um, you know, the thing is so far, you know, up until the last weekend when this thing really

01:17:11.360 erupted, uh, we, there were tariffs in place and certain sectors, certain, you know, steel

01:17:17.060 using industries and certain manufacturers were complaining about the tariffs.

01:17:20.620 Uh, but by and large, the economy wasn't, didn't seem to be so adversely affected by it.

01:17:25.080 Uh, except for the farmers.

01:17:27.880 Farmers are dying.

01:17:28.840 The farmers are in bad shape.

01:17:30.540 Uh, but they've been retaliated against, but interestingly, you know, they're among the

01:17:34.920 most patriotic Americans and they, they seem to think, look, there's a bigger issue here.

01:17:39.940 We're willing to take it on the chin.

01:17:41.420 Uh, this is an existential battle and, and so they're willing to take it, but, but, but

01:17:46.620 Trump realizes that they can't take it for very long.

01:17:48.760 And so he's, uh, directed subsidies to farmers who are in bad shape.

01:17:52.920 And, uh, but, but anyway, I, I think, uh, because the economy has generally been doing

01:17:57.940 so well, it's masked some of the costs, but, uh, we're, we're running out of rope and

01:18:03.220 we're past the peak of the business cycle and we're going to start to feel this U S

01:18:07.140 businesses costs are going to rise.

01:18:08.520 U S cost of living for families is going to increase and, uh, it's going to be hard

01:18:12.660 to undo that.

01:18:13.580 You'd be able to reestablish all sorts of business relationships around the world in

01:18:16.820 order to, you know, to compensate for what is lost in this relationship.

01:18:20.500 So can you tell me, um, you know, in a minute, um, are you worried at all about the China

01:18:27.100 is Chinese selling our treasuries?

01:18:29.200 I mean, they've tried that and it actually seemed to have backfired on them.

01:18:33.220 Yeah, I don't worry about that at all.

01:18:35.640 I mean, they, they own our, uh, our debt.

01:18:38.920 And I mean, uh, we have them over a barrel, we, we could always default on the debt.

01:18:44.240 Uh, but that's not something I would recommend, but they, they buy our debt because it's a

01:18:48.840 good investment for them.

01:18:50.060 Right.

01:18:50.400 It's they need to.

01:18:51.700 And particularly since we're scrutinizing all of their investments, you know, their direct

01:18:56.060 investments in the United States so rigorously now, um, they don't have many choices to

01:18:59.900 buy dollar-denominate assets other than to buy, buy debt, uh, and they could buy equities.

01:19:04.180 But, um, there, I think it's, it's, it's a myth that, that we're threatened by the fact

01:19:10.560 that China owns all the debt, uh, the U.S. debt.

01:19:13.120 But the thing is, it speaks to a bigger problem.

01:19:16.460 That is that we have this debt.

01:19:17.680 And why do we have this debt?

01:19:18.600 Because Congress spends too much money.

01:19:20.500 Right.

01:19:20.860 Right.

01:19:21.400 We need to address that problem.

01:19:23.060 And then we never have to worry about, uh, this fake, fake concern.

01:19:26.740 Uh, Dan Eikenson, thank you so much.

01:19:28.720 I really appreciate the, uh, the update.

01:19:31.180 Um, we'll talk again as you continue to, uh, follow this.

01:19:34.880 Um, appreciate it.

01:19:35.840 From the Cato Institute, uh, Dan Eikenson, um, back in just a second.

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01:19:47.720 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:19:51.300 Hey, so we have some good news about the Supreme Court.

01:19:56.340 Looks like Kavanaugh voted with the liberals again.

01:20:01.160 This is what I wanted in a Supreme Court justice.

01:20:05.540 Somebody would vote with the liberals.

01:20:08.360 Now look at the Constitution.

01:20:11.500 Oh!

01:20:13.740 Kavanaugh and John Roberts.

01:20:16.300 We begin there in one minute.

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01:21:47.200 I am so angry right now.

01:21:57.620 I could go to the John Roberts anger or I could go.

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01:22:23.420 You know what?

01:22:23.640 The Russians.

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01:22:25.020 There is collusion there between Russia.

01:22:27.460 Exactly right.

01:22:27.900 And your body.

01:22:28.560 That's right.

01:22:29.360 Okay.

01:22:30.140 So, uh, let's, let's, uh, let's talk about John Roberts who we all adore.

01:22:36.980 Just adore.

01:22:38.320 Picks worked out really well.

01:22:39.860 Yeah.

01:22:40.120 Really well.

01:22:40.680 And the Kavanaugh, uh, pick looks like that's working out really well.

01:22:43.980 That one's scaring me.

01:22:44.780 I mean, it's still early.

01:22:45.840 It's still early.

01:22:46.840 We, we, you tap the brakes a little bit as just as you, you know, cause I feel like Thelma and Luis, I'm ready to tap on the gas and just go off the edge of the, uh, of the cliff.

01:22:54.980 You just tap the brakes a little bit and hope that maybe this isn't, isn't, uh, what we, what it looks like it is, which is him moving, uh, siding more often with John Roberts than the Clarence Thomases of the world.

01:23:08.460 It's our side.

01:23:09.060 It's always, we screw this up every single time.

01:23:12.120 I really hope it doesn't happen with Kavanaugh and I'm surprised, especially that it would happen this quickly with Kavanaugh, given the way he went in there.

01:23:17.880 It was the only reason he's a Supreme Court justice is because of conservatives.

01:23:21.360 But he is, he is doing what he believes is right.

01:23:24.500 And he should, yeah, he should, but, uh, he should just believe other things are right.

01:23:28.660 Yes, he should believe that the constitution is correct.

01:23:32.220 Now they, they ruled against Apple.

01:23:34.820 Apple is in real trouble between China.

01:23:38.780 I mean, everything is coming from China for Apple.

01:23:41.720 What are they going to do?

01:23:43.100 Yeah.

01:23:43.480 If this really goes on, uh, like it's expected, it would be, it would be a big deal for Apple.

01:23:48.660 Oh my gosh.

01:23:49.300 Apple products will go through the roof in price.

01:23:52.800 Where are they going to move their facilities?

01:23:55.660 It's a lot, not just Apple, a lot of technology companies would have to deal with that.

01:23:59.400 Uh, it would be a huge, it's bad.

01:24:01.440 Yeah.

01:24:01.700 It's, it's bad because, you know, like I don't like getting taxed on things.

01:24:06.020 I know it's bad for innovation as well.

01:24:09.480 Yeah, it is.

01:24:10.680 And what happens, there's a couple of things that happen.

01:24:12.480 The only, the only people who can actually win in a trade war are third parties.

01:24:15.680 So a country like, uh, India, for example, could benefit off of some of this in theory

01:24:20.360 because they would transfer, you know, to, they would, if it, if it lasted long enough,

01:24:25.160 they might abandon China and go to a place like India, which is even lower cost, uh, or

01:24:29.840 Bangladesh, which is lower than them and find a place where they can produce.

01:24:33.960 So it could theoretically help from, from that perspective.

01:24:36.180 But number one, do we put new tariffs on them once they start having the production?

01:24:40.340 And number two, uh, you know, a lot of those supply lines are not as well-developed as China

01:24:44.580 is country.

01:24:45.500 The reason why companies like China is not because they love Chinese communism.

01:24:48.340 It's because they have a very well-developed, uh, supply chain and, uh, process to get these

01:24:55.060 things done reliably.

01:24:56.200 Yeah.

01:24:56.340 Cause they don't mind using people to grease the blocks of the, uh, the blocks in the pyramid.

01:25:02.020 Certainly not going to argue for China as, as a good solid nation.

01:25:05.380 Though I will, I will say that the, many of the best jobs in China are the jobs that

01:25:10.640 we continue, we consider to be slave labor because they pay them so little.

01:25:14.560 Um, you know, it's a, it is a, and I don't mind, honestly, there, there's a difference

01:25:18.940 between slave labor and labor that costs a lot less than does in America.

01:25:24.320 Right.

01:25:24.740 I mean, cost of living in, it's more than just money too.

01:25:27.460 I mean, it's right.

01:25:28.120 It's the conditions.

01:25:29.060 It's the way people are treated generally.

01:25:30.920 Right.

01:25:31.260 In China, it is many times slave labor.

01:25:35.400 It's bad over there and I don't like it.

01:25:38.560 And now let me go back to Apple.

01:25:40.520 So yesterday the Supreme court, uh, ruled that the Apple, uh, app store is a monopoly.

01:25:49.360 Now, no, it's not.

01:25:51.520 However, if you want to be in the Apple app store, you know, uh, it's the place to be.

01:25:58.760 It is the place to be.

01:26:00.040 It is the high rent, you know, shopping mall.

01:26:03.580 It is where people get their apps.

01:26:05.220 Now you get your apps elsewhere.

01:26:06.880 It's just that the Apple app store is the easiest and the one that everybody uses.

01:26:11.060 Now they're saying that, um, the reason why this is coming to, to play and, and I know

01:26:18.700 this to be true for ourselves.

01:26:22.060 If you sell something on Amazon, you sell something on Apple, especially with Apple, they take 30%

01:26:29.880 of everything, just 30%, everything you sell on.

01:26:33.700 And that's why, like, if you go to try to buy something on Amazon, on the app, uh, like

01:26:39.080 for example, um, certain, like if you want to buy something from audible and like download

01:26:42.500 a book, you can't do it there.

01:26:43.500 You have to buy it on the website and then have it delivered to your app.

01:26:46.780 So you can listen to it on your phone.

01:26:47.660 Which is a giant pain in the ass.

01:26:48.060 It's a giant pain.

01:26:49.000 And it's because they don't want to give 30% of everything they sell to Apple.

01:26:52.800 It's a real problem for anybody doing business through there.

01:26:55.480 Um, and you know, you, you deal with it because they make the rules.

01:26:58.740 But you have to look at it and say, is it worth 30%?

01:27:02.020 I mean, I know if we put, um, you know, the subscription, uh, for the blaze in the Apple

01:27:09.280 iStore, uh, or we put it up on Amazon, we would have more people subscribe because I know

01:27:15.960 I don't buy stuff.

01:27:17.480 If it's not on Apple or Amazon, it's too much of a hassle.

01:27:20.440 Oh, it's just like, uh, you want what now?

01:27:22.740 What you want to, I don't know what that number is.

01:27:25.560 I, I, I heisted that credit card years ago.

01:27:29.420 I don't know where that is.

01:27:30.940 You know what I mean?

01:27:31.700 I just, I give up so easily when it's not, um, you know, and either in, in Amazon or Apple.

01:27:41.540 And I think that is, might be worth the 30%.

01:27:45.920 I don't know.

01:27:47.240 We haven't done it because we don't think it's worth it.

01:27:50.580 Um, but you know, what do you, what are you going to do?

01:27:54.680 So Kavanaugh yesterday, he sided with the liberals on this.

01:27:59.060 And so they are going out against, um, uh, Apple and it's hard because I think Apple is

01:28:06.040 building a monopoly.

01:28:06.900 So is Amazon.

01:28:08.400 So is Google.

01:28:09.000 And so is Facebook.

01:28:10.320 These guys are going to shut everybody else out.

01:28:14.240 Um, however, uh, can a company choose to say, I'm sorry, I'm going to take 30%.

01:28:22.140 I created the platform.

01:28:24.680 Everybody's here because it's Apple.

01:28:27.240 Uh, I'm going to charge you 30%.

01:28:29.220 You don't like it.

01:28:30.280 Go someplace else.

01:28:31.740 Yeah.

01:28:33.380 Absolutely.

01:28:33.880 Ken.

01:28:34.060 And that's, you know, that's one of the arguments with the whole China situation.

01:28:37.100 One of the big, uh, issues with that, as far as trade goes is a lot of times the Chinese

01:28:41.580 government will say, Hey, you can sell your technology to our billion plus people.

01:28:45.880 Um, however, if you're going to use that technology here and you're going to use our

01:28:49.260 market, you have to give us the technology.

01:28:51.240 Right now that is a completely unfair law and I would fight against it with everything I

01:28:55.680 have, but you don't ever, they have the sovereignty to make that law just like we

01:28:59.440 do.

01:29:00.000 And you also have the sovereignty as Apple or anybody else to go, I don't want to screw it.

01:29:04.640 I'm not going to do that.

01:29:05.660 No, I'd rather sell it somewhere else.

01:29:07.260 And I'm going to skip the Chinese market.

01:29:09.060 Right.

01:29:09.360 And you know, that is of course the right.

01:29:11.320 I, I, you know, they should change the rules, but that is a different story.

01:29:14.880 And it's the same thing with Apple.

01:29:15.900 Like I think Apple 30% is pretty freaking excessive.

01:29:18.860 That's it.

01:29:19.260 That's crazy.

01:29:19.760 It's really excessive.

01:29:21.160 However, you know, they have, this is their product.

01:29:24.480 They made it.

01:29:25.080 They get to charge what they want for it.

01:29:26.440 That's the free market.

01:29:27.440 So let me, let me just kind of change subjects.

01:29:30.280 Um, this weekend on our podcast, Mike Lee is going to be on.

01:29:37.200 Now, Mike Lee, I think I've heard him say some really bad things about people.

01:29:44.540 Uh, like, I don't know.

01:29:47.340 I, I, I personally don't necessarily always get along with them.

01:29:51.720 Okay.

01:29:52.120 That's about as hardcore as that's, yeah, that's Mike Lee, that extremist.

01:29:55.620 He is, he is the, one of the nicest guys.

01:29:58.420 He will never say anything bad about anybody.

01:30:02.280 So I'm in the middle of this podcast and I asked him about two people.

01:30:06.320 I asked him about Donald Trump, which remember he was very anti Donald Trump.

01:30:11.080 So I had no idea where he was going to go on this and I'll play that for you in a minute.

01:30:16.840 It was as, it was as amazing as this one.

01:30:21.260 Now, listen, I want to play when I asked him about John Roberts.

01:30:25.700 I've never seen Mike.

01:30:29.900 This is Mike Lee completely unhinged.

01:30:32.780 This is a 10 out of 10.

01:30:33.940 Yeah, this is, this is Mike Lee.

01:30:35.700 I mean, everybody in the control room, everybody who had a monitor while we were recording this,

01:30:40.580 everybody went, Oh, Oh my gosh, listen to what he's saying.

01:30:45.340 This is Mike Lee unhinged on John.

01:30:49.060 It's hard to draw the line between him and other members of the court who have also made decisions that I would consider wrong.

01:30:55.040 But if we don't start impeaching people, I mean, I don't think the impeachment process,

01:31:00.140 especially for the Supreme court was meant to be as hard as it, it is.

01:31:04.660 Look, you never hear about impeachment for judges.

01:31:07.820 When these judges go offline, you know, I'd like quite, quite honestly,

01:31:12.560 there's several people in, in the Senate and the house that I wouldn't mind impeaching because you are violating your oath.

01:31:19.680 You are to protect the constitution against all foreign and, and, uh, and, and domestic enemies.

01:31:28.160 I see people making decisions all the time.

01:31:30.440 That is absolutely unconstitutional.

01:31:33.320 But when you have a sitting judge and it is revealed the horse trading that went on,

01:31:40.700 that's just another political house.

01:31:43.380 Now it's wrong.

01:31:44.360 And that's one of the things that differentiates that from just other members of the court with whom I sometimes disagree in,

01:31:51.640 in their interpretation of the statute or the constitutional provision before them.

01:31:55.920 In this instance, we now have evidence.

01:31:57.880 I widely suspected at the time wrote and did extensive, uh, media interviews about it at the time that something had gone terribly wrong.

01:32:05.920 I wasn't sure what it was, but now we know, but now we know, right.

01:32:09.200 So you can't say, well, this is a difference of opinion or maybe we now know.

01:32:15.000 Shouldn't he be impeached?

01:32:17.060 Perhaps he should.

01:32:17.940 I have never given serious consideration to that until this very moment.

01:32:21.040 It's something worth considering makes up for the fact that it'll never happen.

01:32:25.020 I mean, first of all, you got to stop.

01:32:27.000 This is the wrong clip.

01:32:28.120 This is after he blew his stack.

01:32:30.700 And I'm so frustrated.

01:32:32.720 This is after.

01:32:33.800 Cause I said to him, I think justice Roger Roberts should be impeached.

01:32:38.220 Yeah.

01:32:38.380 Cause you made a long case about it.

01:32:39.580 And he sat there perfectly still and silent.

01:32:42.080 And then he leaned into the table.

01:32:44.840 Yeah.

01:32:45.060 You can hear the very end of it at the beginning of that clip.

01:32:47.520 And you're like, Whoa.

01:32:49.240 Yeah.

01:32:49.560 You have to hear this podcast.

01:32:50.760 Cause I mean, Mike Lee's just great on everything.

01:32:53.580 He's so smart and he's a guy who's so principled and you know, he's, he's one of the very few

01:32:58.000 in Washington that I truly admire.

01:32:59.860 But listen, you know, listening to him there, I was surprised because in a way we've said

01:33:03.840 this before, we've had this conversation off the air that because of the John Roberts,

01:33:07.820 the way he dealt with Obamacare, which has now been reported widely and, uh, and has not

01:33:13.320 really been disagreed with at all by anyone in the court, which is he basically did agree

01:33:17.700 with the conservative side to overrule Obamacare and then started deciding he didn't, well,

01:33:22.700 I don't know.

01:33:23.260 It's a big move.

01:33:24.140 I'm going to go over to the other side of the aisle and try to convince some of the

01:33:27.240 liberals to come with me in the majority and change my essentially horse trading and

01:33:32.300 then traded the Medicare, uh, decision, which he was initially on the opposite of that

01:33:36.720 one too.

01:33:37.160 So, and switch flip-flop them so he could get the, so he could basically keep Obamacare

01:33:42.280 in effect, which is, again, your job as a Supreme Court justice is to go in there and, and rule

01:33:47.840 on whether you believe something is constitutional or not, period.

01:33:50.400 It's not a, it's not a political body.

01:33:53.140 Right.

01:33:53.280 You're not supposed to be, uh, you know, making deals.

01:33:55.280 Like that's not the way it's supposed to work.

01:33:57.160 And because he did that, you know, we were talking about, I don't know, do you teach

01:33:59.820 this guy?

01:34:00.660 And I remember having that conversation with you and as you were pitching it to Mike Lee

01:34:06.600 and he's sitting there just silent, just like waiting, waiting for you to finish.

01:34:09.200 And I'm thinking, well, this guy's got to think Glenn's crazy.

01:34:11.620 That's kind of where I thought he was going to go.

01:34:13.520 Instead he was, I mean, he was fired up about it.

01:34:16.840 He leaned in and his whole demeanor changed.

01:34:18.900 He did.

01:34:19.340 I mean, it's really, I think he, you know, for someone like Mike who takes the constitution

01:34:23.840 and the founding of this country, not only seriously, but in a sacred way.

01:34:27.880 I mean, I, you know, for someone like that to see this constant violation, it has to

01:34:32.440 be beating him up being in Washington and dealing with us all the time.

01:34:35.820 It has to be.

01:34:36.860 Um, I asked him, I asked him this question, play the question, uh, without the answer,

01:34:41.200 uh, about Donald Trump.

01:34:43.560 You and I felt very much the same about Donald Trump.

01:34:47.040 I think, um, and I was concerned and I'm still concerned about it.

01:34:53.840 About the, the public behavior of the president.

01:34:59.560 However, I will tell you at times it feels really good to see him just punch people in

01:35:04.260 the face, you know, and that's not, I'm not saying that's a good thing, but it, it, uh,

01:35:09.460 you have that human reaction.

01:35:11.940 Um, when I was judging him for the election, I was judging him on that and what record he

01:35:21.980 did have, and none of it was conservative, the president is not a conservative, but he

01:35:28.160 has done and accomplished some amazing things.

01:35:33.120 Israel probably being paramount on that.

01:35:37.420 How is your relationship with Donald Trump?

01:35:40.200 How is, how, how, what do you, how do you, how do you view him now going into this next

01:35:46.180 election?

01:35:46.560 His answer, uh, I found, uh, surprising and, uh, because of the way he answered it.

01:35:56.440 Yeah.

01:35:56.800 Uh, and, and I'll play it in just a minute.

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01:37:30.720 We break for 10 seconds, station ID.

01:37:47.880 From a very fascinating, uh, podcast with Mike Lee, I asked him, where do you stand on

01:37:54.900 president Trump?

01:37:55.780 Here's what he said.

01:37:56.940 I, you're exactly right.

01:37:58.260 I had some concerns with him and I was probably more vocal, uh, than many would have been at

01:38:05.060 the time at expressing those concerns.

01:38:06.540 I have been pleasantly surprised at what he's done.

01:38:10.520 Now, I don't agree with him on everything.

01:38:12.040 Uh, there are some things he says that make me nervous.

01:38:13.940 I disagree with him, for example, on trade policy.

01:38:16.720 Big time.

01:38:17.080 But I have great respect for the fact that he came to Washington and actually did what

01:38:23.400 he said he was going to do more so than any president in modern U S history.

01:38:28.360 People wouldn't be asking for a wall if more people did what they said they would do.

01:38:32.260 Exactly.

01:38:32.900 I, and I, you know, I think I fundamentally misunderstood him at the time.

01:38:36.160 I think I was viewing him through the same lens that I view other politicians.

01:38:40.400 He is different.

01:38:41.840 I still don't agree with him on everything, but he's done exactly what he said he was going

01:38:46.700 to do.

01:38:47.260 I have a friend who toward the end of 2016 pointed out to me something that helped me

01:38:52.720 understand the phenomenon.

01:38:53.840 He said, imagine that we're all in a bar and everybody senses that a bar fight is about

01:38:58.800 to break out.

01:38:59.920 Um, I, and all of a sudden there's, there's, there's one guy who's big and strong and tough

01:39:05.080 and he takes out a beer bottle and he breaks it across the table and he holds it up and brandishes,

01:39:09.140 it brandishes it against those who are opposing it.

01:39:12.360 Everybody has to decide which person to line up behind.

01:39:15.220 They're probably going to line up behind that person.

01:39:17.700 I think that resonates with what happened in 2016.

01:39:21.740 I think people had had enough and they wanted somebody who would go in and knock over a

01:39:27.360 few tables.

01:39:28.600 And I think that's where the left is now.

01:39:31.800 I mean, the right is still there, but the left is there now to the same.

01:39:34.880 We need a bottle breaker.

01:39:36.420 Right.

01:39:37.400 Right.

01:39:37.860 And which makes for an interesting inflection point when we've got a choice.

01:39:40.960 And I think that choice is going to force us either to become a more conservative nation,

01:39:46.120 a nation that recognizes and trusts in the dignity of individual human beings and communities

01:39:51.320 and churches and neighborhoods and synagogues and civil society, or a government that marches

01:39:57.420 to the progressive drumbeat, federalizes more power, centralizes more power in Washington,

01:40:03.520 D.C.

01:40:03.800 That will be the choice that we've got to make in our next election cycle.

01:40:07.120 And I hope we choose the right, the right option.

01:40:12.780 Are you willing to say you would or would not vote for Donald Trump?

01:40:17.300 Oh, I'm going to vote for him.

01:40:18.320 I'm going to vote for him.

01:40:19.160 I'm going to support him.

01:40:19.800 I think he has proven that he's willing to drain the swamp, even when it doesn't want

01:40:26.840 to be drained.

01:40:28.220 And so it makes me more comfortable with him than I was in 2016.

01:40:32.660 I didn't really know him at the time.

01:40:34.300 I've gotten to know him since then.

01:40:36.500 We've actually become friends since then.

01:40:38.640 We talk on a very regular basis.

01:40:41.540 And, you know, for the first year, he would routinely remind me of the fact that I was hard

01:40:46.060 on him in 2016.

01:40:46.820 We finally stopped toward the end of 2017 when I said, look, that's behind us now.

01:40:52.420 We've worked together a lot and he doesn't bring it up anymore.

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01:42:33.060 Welcome to the program.

01:42:34.120 This is a first.

01:42:36.040 You'll you'll tell your kids and your grandkids someday.

01:42:38.540 I was listening to the Glenn Beck program the first day that they had a Democratic national

01:42:45.480 candidate on somebody who is running for the presidency of the United States in the

01:42:52.080 Democratic side.

01:42:53.100 We have tried over and over and over again for 20 years.

01:42:56.980 They do not want to ever come on.

01:43:00.900 First time ever.

01:43:03.400 A lesser known candidate at this point, but I think a guy who could go all the way and

01:43:09.040 he might even get my support.

01:43:11.500 How many Horowitz?

01:43:12.360 How are you?

01:43:12.940 Oh, it's a pleasure to be here.

01:43:14.240 Yeah.

01:43:15.720 It's been a long time.

01:43:16.900 So I've been here in person.

01:43:17.800 So I want to want to drink it in.

01:43:19.320 I want to take it in.

01:43:20.080 Yeah.

01:43:20.300 So you're not the kind of guy that I would expect to be running for president of the

01:43:28.580 you know, under the Democratic ticket.

01:43:31.300 Yeah, I get I get that a lot.

01:43:33.140 I'll be totally honest.

01:43:34.600 Yeah.

01:43:34.860 But look, the honest truth is I am always country over party.

01:43:39.380 I mean, I never cared about an R or a D or I next to my name.

01:43:43.660 Uh, it's all about what the important issues that Americans face and those, the issues

01:43:48.840 that animate me and those issues that drive me.

01:43:51.100 And that's why I decided I needed a platform for those viewpoints.

01:43:55.320 And I think that the Democratic Party in particular is doing itself a great disservice by the

01:44:01.920 radicalization that is the radical transformation, I should say, that's gone through over the

01:44:06.600 past several years.

01:44:07.180 And we've seen an inexorable move by the Democratic Party to the left over the last, you know,

01:44:12.900 15 years.

01:44:13.960 But we've seen that in hyperdrive over the last couple of years.

01:44:17.800 And I think it's destroying the party.

01:44:19.820 And I think they need somebody to right the ship.

01:44:21.560 And I think I'm that captain.

01:44:23.080 Okay.

01:44:23.600 I think I'm the guy.

01:44:24.620 So now, um, you've, you've, you've registered, you filed the papers.

01:44:28.800 It's all a done deal.

01:44:30.180 All done.

01:44:30.440 Oh yeah.

01:44:30.960 And, and here's the interesting, here's the interesting thing.

01:44:35.140 Um, you're not for socialism.

01:44:39.060 No.

01:44:39.700 Yeah.

01:44:40.540 Yeah.

01:44:41.100 Right.

01:44:41.620 Right.

01:44:42.580 Right.

01:44:43.260 Many.

01:44:43.660 So I don't really fit into the mold.

01:44:46.560 But again, here's the interesting thing.

01:44:49.420 If you get donations, even if it's a dollar per donation, right?

01:44:54.340 50 cents.

01:44:55.240 If you get, uh, 65,000 individuals giving you even 50 cents, you are then guaranteed a spot

01:45:05.380 on the debate stage.

01:45:07.300 It's a massive hack to get on the Democrat debate.

01:45:10.420 Now, not this is, again, this is a serious run.

01:45:12.780 Yeah.

01:45:13.140 I have serious issues I want to address.

01:45:14.900 I am a registered Democrat, just to be clear, but yes, 65,000.

01:45:19.720 When, when, how long have you been a registered Democrat?

01:45:22.380 Oh God, man.

01:45:23.600 In my heart or on a filing?

01:45:26.120 Hmm.

01:45:26.560 Well.

01:45:27.080 It really, the heart is what matters.

01:45:28.260 The heart is what matters, right?

01:45:29.640 You've been there for a long time.

01:45:31.140 Long, yeah.

01:45:31.660 Long time.

01:45:32.060 I'm a Jew.

01:45:32.760 I mean, I think that you're born with a Democratic voter card.

01:45:35.540 I believe you are.

01:45:36.340 I think that's the way it works.

01:45:36.540 I think, yeah.

01:45:37.240 So.

01:45:37.720 You're a certificate.

01:45:38.580 And, yeah.

01:45:39.040 But I have been.

01:45:39.840 The actual filing.

01:45:40.560 The actual, the actual, yeah.

01:45:41.940 It's been about two months.

01:45:43.320 About two months.

01:45:44.020 I've been trying it on.

01:45:44.940 Yeah.

01:45:45.080 It's like a new suit you get, you know, made to measure.

01:45:47.700 But to be clear, Bernie Sanders is not much longer than that.

01:45:49.820 No, no, no.

01:45:50.460 So Bernie Sanders does a very interesting thing.

01:45:52.680 He always, he's an independent.

01:45:54.320 And he's independent as a senator and is for years.

01:45:56.900 And then he always switches several months before the election to a Democrat.

01:46:00.260 No different than what I'm doing myself.

01:46:02.000 And you're actually not, because you're not a Republican either.

01:46:05.180 You're, you are an independent.

01:46:06.720 I am an independent.

01:46:07.380 Absolutely.

01:46:07.700 Uh, so, um, now what do you think they're going to do when you have 65,000 people donating

01:46:20.320 to your campaign and that qualifies you to be on that debate stage?

01:46:26.900 There needs to be a lot of heart doctors available at the DNC.

01:46:31.580 The moment that happens, I think they're, they're, listen, um, clearly they don't want

01:46:36.240 me on the stage.

01:46:37.000 And in fact, I can't get the details now, but there's been moves already to try to, um,

01:46:43.420 to abort this candidacy early on.

01:46:46.140 And they're good at abortion.

01:46:47.500 They are good at abortion.

01:46:49.180 That's true.

01:46:49.400 Yeah.

01:46:49.840 All, all late term.

01:46:51.300 Yeah, late term.

01:46:52.080 It can happen on stage.

01:46:53.160 They could just let you die.

01:46:54.180 Listen, I mean, I don't, in fact, I think the Republicans wanted to get Democrats on

01:46:57.740 board with, with capital punishment, just very late term abortion.

01:47:01.560 Right, right.

01:47:03.020 So, so, uh, but cause what we talked about this, you know, just a few days before you

01:47:08.640 did it.

01:47:09.220 And I said, they're never going to let you on the stage.

01:47:12.680 And, and you said, no, the rules are, they have to, the rules are very clear.

01:47:18.200 If they, if they decide, okay, there's, they have, they're in a box.

01:47:20.800 Okay.

01:47:21.100 They've got two choices.

01:47:21.860 So if, if I have 65,000 people send me a dollar, anything that gets me on that stage,

01:47:26.780 their choices are either they can change the rules, their own rules, which would put them

01:47:31.740 in a really tough situation because they've, you know, Tom Perez may first announced what

01:47:35.940 the requirements were, uh, and they did it because they were so stung by the criticism

01:47:40.700 that they got when Bernie Sanders essentially, you know, they conspired against him and, and

01:47:46.400 the rules allowed for them to do that, uh, that they wanted to make this in his own

01:47:50.420 words, the most open, uh, process they've ever had.

01:47:54.540 And he said he wants a diversity of, of candidates.

01:47:58.420 I'm not sure he meant intellectual diversity, but anyways, that's what he's getting.

01:48:02.300 Now, if they do change that, he has to go back on everything he said and he has to, there's

01:48:07.220 going to be a lot of people and I'm looking at your board right now, which by the way,

01:48:09.800 do I, is my name on this board?

01:48:10.940 No, you're shocked to find out it was not on.

01:48:14.480 I don't know who's responsible for that board.

01:48:15.980 Some of these get fired.

01:48:16.940 Not either of us.

01:48:17.720 Not either of us.

01:48:18.200 Is it you?

01:48:19.320 All right.

01:48:20.900 You look guilty, my man.

01:48:23.160 So, so therefore a lot of these guys is bored.

01:48:25.840 Well, they'll, they'll take them off the board also because they don't put me on and they

01:48:28.760 change the rules.

01:48:29.440 They can't just keep me off specifically.

01:48:31.500 Uh, they're going to have to, you know, a lot of people are qualifying the same way I

01:48:34.320 am.

01:48:34.600 They'll be off the board also, or they have me on and I'm going to make the Democrat debate

01:48:38.760 stage a very unsafe space for them.

01:48:40.500 Cause I would imagine if they just decided to change the rules and say, we don't believe

01:48:44.000 you're a real Democrat or whatever they tried to do, they would be opening themselves up

01:48:47.760 to real legal problems.

01:48:48.520 There's some first amendment issues.

01:48:49.460 There's some constitutional issues that I think have never actually been discussed about

01:48:53.400 what a party is allowed or not allowed to do, which I think would be whole other interesting

01:48:57.220 rabbit hole for us to go down.

01:48:58.700 And you're not talking about anything necessarily radical.

01:49:02.880 Uh, you're talking about things that the Democrats would find radical.

01:49:07.460 Look, I think that I, if had I done this, um, 30 years ago, 25 years ago, I think I would

01:49:14.300 find a very comfortable place in the American debate stage.

01:49:16.480 I mean, I think my, you know, I look at myself and think I'm pretty ideologically aligned with

01:49:20.820 a scoop Jackson or Patrick Moynihan or JFK, to be honest.

01:49:24.460 But those guys, if they ran again today, uh, they'd be run off a rail Democratic party.

01:49:31.520 They just don't fit with the Democratic party is.

01:49:33.980 And that's not a good thing.

01:49:35.000 We don't listen.

01:49:35.700 We, we need to have two strong parties.

01:49:37.740 We have to keep each party in check.

01:49:39.560 I don't think it's healthy to have one party that's, that's, that's, um, dominating and

01:49:44.580 one that's not, but the, but the issues that they, it's really, look, it's amazing.

01:49:49.500 I would say a lot of their positions now, if you looked at like right wing conspiratorialists

01:49:55.180 and what they would say Democrats really believed in and go, Oh, you're insane.

01:49:59.540 That's really what they believe in now.

01:50:01.000 No, I know.

01:50:01.420 Okay.

01:50:01.700 I mean, you know, Oh yeah.

01:50:03.800 Those Democrats believe in open borders.

01:50:05.480 Yeah.

01:50:05.940 That's actually what they, there's like Juan Castro.

01:50:09.140 I think his name is Juan Castro.

01:50:10.440 Julian Castro.

01:50:11.280 Julian Castro.

01:50:11.400 Juan Castro is like a shortstop for the Astros.

01:50:13.520 I think, but Julian Castro, he said he wants open borders.

01:50:17.960 Okay.

01:50:18.220 These are actual positions that they're taking.

01:50:20.680 I mean, Joe Biden, who's, who's what the great, the, the, the, the great, uh, middle

01:50:24.540 of the road moderate.

01:50:25.740 He said, we want illegal aliens to have health coverage in this country.

01:50:30.340 I mean, these are radical, insane positions that the majority of the country, vast majority,

01:50:36.400 probably the majority of the democratic party.

01:50:38.100 I feel pretty comfortable saying do not feel comfortable with, you know, here's one of

01:50:41.760 my theories.

01:50:42.280 If you look at the, um, uh, the polling numbers where Joe Biden is leading in some polls by

01:50:47.160 40 points.

01:50:48.940 Um, what's the lowest 25 points, 21 points, something like that.

01:50:54.200 Give or take.

01:50:54.620 He's way ahead of everybody else.

01:50:56.420 And I think that's because Americans know him and they don't feel as though he's a radical

01:51:00.840 socialist.

01:51:01.640 I don't think they know him.

01:51:02.880 I gotta be honest.

01:51:03.680 I mean, I think they knew him before.

01:51:05.100 Right, right, right.

01:51:05.700 They don't know what he is now.

01:51:06.960 No, I agree with you on that.

01:51:08.420 But I think the Democrats see him and they just go, oh, he's just Joe Biden and he's

01:51:14.040 not crazy and he's not totally radical.

01:51:16.040 I think he is.

01:51:17.340 Um, but they, he doesn't have that perception.

01:51:19.740 Right.

01:51:19.980 And with him being 20 points ahead of anybody else, it shows that the democratic voter is

01:51:27.460 not with this socialist stuff.

01:51:29.460 They're way too radical.

01:51:31.160 I mean, they just did a poll on, uh, some healthcare issues and healthcare consistently comes for

01:51:35.140 Democrats as the number one priority.

01:51:37.120 Uh, they want that addressed.

01:51:38.500 They pulled Medicare for all specifically and only 47% of Democrats supported Medicare

01:51:44.420 for all, which puts you in the majority position on the number one issue.

01:51:47.920 If that doesn't qualify you as a valid candidate, I don't know what is.

01:51:51.420 How do you know I don't want Medicare for all?

01:51:53.320 Well, I mean, I just assumed that's true.

01:51:56.000 Do you want Medicare for all?

01:51:57.040 No, I do not.

01:51:57.620 Okay.

01:51:57.980 I mean, here's the thing about, about, about our healthcare system, which is incredible

01:52:02.200 to me, which I don't know if they know.

01:52:04.000 I don't know if these, of these Democrats even care, but you're talking, we have the

01:52:07.080 most innovative healthcare system the world has ever known.

01:52:10.420 There's a reason why 50% of all innovation across healthcare that could be bioengineering,

01:52:16.040 medical devices, pharmaceutical, all happens in this country.

01:52:19.140 It's because we have a robust profit system that allows people to invest money, take massive

01:52:24.060 risks in how much money, how much billions of dollars it takes to, to, to investigate

01:52:28.580 an avenue for a drug.

01:52:30.360 And Hey, we, there's no guarantee of success, but they take the risk to do that because there's

01:52:35.640 a profit incentive.

01:52:36.380 The question is not about that side of the equation.

01:52:38.880 We got to keep the cost down.

01:52:40.260 There are other ways to do that and to overturn our entire healthcare system for essentially

01:52:45.200 10% of people who don't have coverage.

01:52:47.060 Cause remember 90% of people, when they introduced Obamacare, 90% of people had coverage, whether it

01:52:52.580 be personal coverage or through their, or through their jobs.

01:52:54.900 But for 10%, instead of finding a way to cover that 10%, which I want to do, they overturned

01:53:00.820 our entire system.

01:53:01.720 This is what we're talking about.

01:53:03.000 The radicalism of the democratic party where norms don't make a difference anymore.

01:53:07.080 So did you see what happened in Ukraine?

01:53:10.960 No.

01:53:11.880 So the, the pretty open question.

01:53:14.080 I mean, a lot of things happened in Ukraine.

01:53:16.320 I'm assuming you're talking about Biden's kid.

01:53:19.540 Uh, no, no, but we have talked about that quite a bit.

01:53:22.720 That is an interesting story.

01:53:23.740 Um, I I'm talking about the new Ukrainian president.

01:53:27.620 Oh, the comedian is a comedian.

01:53:28.980 Yes.

01:53:29.320 Right.

01:53:29.500 Of course.

01:53:29.820 Of course.

01:53:31.560 A number of things have happened in Ukraine since then.

01:53:33.640 Yeah, I know that.

01:53:34.160 But the world is at a place to where a disruptor, Donald Trump, you could actually, you know,

01:53:46.160 walk away with, with a nomination and, and, and possibly win a nomination.

01:53:52.600 Look, if, if you had said to me, if you had asked me four years ago, is this possible?

01:53:58.660 I would say, come on.

01:53:59.800 Of course not.

01:54:01.040 But in the president of the United States essentially won the nomination, the presidency

01:54:05.480 on a troll.

01:54:06.900 Right.

01:54:07.460 I think anything is possible.

01:54:09.120 Yeah.

01:54:09.440 Anything is possible.

01:54:10.260 Look, there is a wide open lane for somebody like me.

01:54:13.660 And I think that the challenge is trying to get the democratic electorate to understand

01:54:19.700 what I'm doing and who I am.

01:54:21.620 And the fact that I don't think any of those guys on the board over here can beat Donald

01:54:25.360 Trump.

01:54:25.780 I think I can.

01:54:26.980 And I think if they want a Democrat in the white house, I'm their guy.

01:54:30.660 And all it takes is what, that's the crazy thing about this.

01:54:33.180 You don't have to send me a hundred dollars, a thousand dollars.

01:54:36.440 What?

01:54:36.680 If they go to ambiforamerica.com for $1, they can see the greatest show on earth.

01:54:42.160 And by the way, you know who wants me on more than anybody else?

01:54:44.520 The networks holding the debates.

01:54:46.600 I guarantee you that I will double or triple, if not larger, what their audience was from

01:54:52.420 the last time they had a Democrat debate.

01:54:54.400 Oh, I could guarantee that because everybody on the right would be watching.

01:54:59.060 Oh my gosh.

01:54:59.740 Everyone on the right would not miss that.

01:55:01.880 Because I would like to, I would like you to say, I wouldn't want to see you just go

01:55:04.740 up and mock it, which I don't think you're trying to do.

01:55:06.960 No, no, no, no, no.

01:55:07.740 I would like you to go up and say, look, when did we start believing as Democrats?

01:55:13.840 When did we go here?

01:55:15.920 This is nuts.

01:55:17.140 When did capitalism become a dirty word?

01:55:19.400 When the greatest system ever devised by man, literally, I would say, I would literally

01:55:26.600 say that, that has created more wealth for more people, brought more people out of poverty,

01:55:32.660 and to run away from that system to a system that we see demonstrably does not work.

01:55:38.760 And we're seeing it today in Venezuela.

01:55:40.380 Venezuela is a democratic socialist country.

01:55:43.000 Let's make no mistake about it.

01:55:44.040 It's not the Soviet Union.

01:55:45.380 It's a democratic socialist country.

01:55:47.420 And we're seeing it implode.

01:55:48.760 And I'm saying they're not, they're not looking to model themselves after that, but that's

01:55:51.960 the road they're going down.

01:55:53.400 So all I'm looking to do.

01:55:54.780 Well, they were modeling themselves after that until Maduro, until it collapsed.

01:55:59.660 And they did praise Hugo Chavez profusely back in the day.

01:56:04.020 You know what?

01:56:04.500 I stand corrected.

01:56:05.680 And by the way, there is this weird undercurrent in the Democratic Party that supports Maduro

01:56:10.280 and has not been attacking him.

01:56:11.680 It's a weird kind of thing.

01:56:13.320 I don't know where they're-

01:56:14.120 Code Pink took over-

01:56:15.860 I was there in DC when Code Pink had rallies for Maduro.

01:56:19.640 What is going on?

01:56:21.860 Everybody, this is the road they want to take us down.

01:56:25.440 So this is not a joke.

01:56:26.520 I'm not looking there to mock them, but I want to hold them accountable for their beliefs.

01:56:30.800 Because let me tell you who's not going to hold them accountable, the mainstream media.

01:56:34.160 Okay, they're not going to ask the tough questions about their beliefs and what that's going

01:56:37.940 to do to this country.

01:56:38.820 I will.

01:56:39.480 I promise you that.

01:56:40.720 If I get on that stage, I'll make sure that every view they have, however radical it is,

01:56:45.560 I will hold them accountable for it.

01:56:46.640 I think that it is really, I think it's a service to the Democrats, to the voters.

01:56:52.000 It really is.

01:56:53.160 Because there's no diversity.

01:56:55.040 This is going to be a medal.

01:56:55.600 How about instead of a medal, a $1 donation to amiforamerica.com?

01:57:00.600 This is a real campaign.

01:57:01.720 AMI.

01:57:03.380 AMIforamerica.com.

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01:57:07.200 They just need 65,000 individual people.

01:57:09.220 Oh, it's .org.

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01:57:12.860 Okay.

01:57:13.300 Oh, come on.

01:57:13.600 I covered my bases here.

01:57:15.760 Come on.

01:57:16.460 You're not dealing with a rookie.

01:57:17.680 Well, do you have it also, Amy, A-M-Y, just in case?

01:57:21.780 I should have, actually.

01:57:22.620 Yeah, you should have.

01:57:23.240 You should have.

01:57:23.800 But I was going to say this is not my first rodeo, but this is definitely my first rodeo.

01:57:27.820 Ami Horowitz.

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01:57:33.960 I do, too.

01:57:34.900 Make a 50 cent or a dollar donation.

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01:57:37.420 Thank you so much, Ami.

01:57:38.460 Thank you.

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01:58:53.160 But I'm going to treat him as what he is,

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 14, 2019

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