The Glenn Beck Program - 'No Closer To The Truth'

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00:00:11.240 Love. Courage. Truth. Glenn Beck.

00:00:18.900 When there is no trust, when there is, when there is no truth, this is the kind of chaos that we get.

00:00:27.580 I don't even know what to say today. I feel like I live in a banana republic.

00:00:34.740 And not the place that has the clothing.

00:00:37.860 I feel like I live in a place that I don't know which rules apply anymore.

00:00:44.680 Attorney-client privilege just gone?

00:00:48.260 Okay?

00:00:50.040 It's a pretty serious thing.

00:00:53.120 It is constitutional.

00:00:55.100 The FBI does seem to be following the law, but they're using extraordinary means.

00:01:07.080 Is this the act of a banana republic?

00:01:11.600 What is going on?

00:01:13.380 You damn well better have something big if you are going to arrest, or I'm sorry, invade and raid the President of the United States, his attorney.

00:01:27.680 They not only took down the office.

00:01:32.300 The FBI raided his home in New York City, a hotel room where he has been staying.

00:01:37.060 This is the President's personal lawyer.

00:01:41.540 Now, what is he in trouble for?

00:01:43.980 Potential bank and wire fraud and campaign finance violations.

00:01:47.920 We'll get into how this can happen.

00:01:51.740 How, all of a sudden, everything that we thought you had with attorney-client privileges is on the ropes.

00:01:58.740 We'll get into that here in a second.

00:02:01.620 But Special Counsel Robert Mueller apparently found evidence of a potential crime.

00:02:07.000 But he determined that it had nothing to do with Russia.

00:02:10.340 Based on the evidence, he sent a referral to the federal prosecutors in New York.

00:02:17.180 Now, they could pursue it or not.

00:02:20.660 Those people are all connected to Trump.

00:02:23.740 Those are the people that the judge was appointed by Trump.

00:02:27.460 And the investigators in New York were individually interviewed by Trump.

00:02:33.720 But I don't know what the truth is.

00:02:40.280 Do you?

00:02:43.240 The raid was inside a lawyer's office.

00:02:45.760 The Justice Department had to sign off on it.

00:02:48.200 That means Attorney General Rod Rosenstein gave the approval.

00:02:52.620 Another Trump guy.

00:02:53.840 The FBI sees Cohen's computer, his phone, his business records, his tax documents, all of his emails about his personal finances, and his clients.

00:03:04.420 Then sees documents reportedly including communications between Cohen and President Trump.

00:03:13.360 Boy, this is a historic movement.

00:03:18.320 This is something that changes everything.

00:03:20.800 How are they going to tiptoe around it?

00:03:24.860 Well, it's very clear how they're supposed to.

00:03:28.660 There are clean investigators and dirty investigators.

00:03:32.520 And we'll discuss that in a minute.

00:03:36.240 Let's just say this has not happened to the President before.

00:03:41.280 This move by the Justice Department is extraordinarily rare.

00:03:45.020 And it is going to tear this country apart unless they have rock-solid evidence.

00:03:55.380 Meanwhile, the media is ecstatic about the seizure of records related to Cohen's 2016 payment of $130,000 to an adult film star.

00:04:04.280 Can you imagine if they would have done this to Bill Clinton?

00:04:06.880 Can you imagine what the media would have said?

00:04:10.460 Cohen denies the payment violated campaign finance laws.

00:04:15.880 Can you imagine?

00:04:17.700 Oh, I don't have to imagine.

00:04:19.320 Do you remember what the press said when people were speculating that there was real evidence about Clintons getting a payoff to China?

00:04:29.260 Do you remember when Al Gore made that big donation to China and they made a big donation back to him?

00:04:36.580 Imagine if they would have raided their personal attorneys.

00:04:44.220 Let's just all try to be consistent here.

00:04:46.260 Now, President Trump has denied the affair with Daniel, denies that he even knew about Cohen's payment to her.

00:04:54.900 But I don't think Trump is the target.

00:04:57.800 Michael Cohen is.

00:05:00.440 Does this hurt Donald Trump?

00:05:05.700 I don't think so, other than getting yet another bad guy away from him.

00:05:11.940 But I don't think they have evidence on Trump.

00:05:17.260 Anything that could hurt him?

00:05:18.700 I don't know.

00:05:20.540 But this is war now.

00:05:24.320 Michael Cohen's lawyer, Stephen Ryan, called the raid completely inappropriate and unnecessary.

00:05:30.080 Now, of course, lawyers are paid to say stuff like that, especially if you're a lawyer for a lawyer.

00:05:35.220 Ryan also said Cohen has fully cooperated and turned over thousands of nonprivileged documents to congressional investigators already.

00:05:42.800 So, where do we stand today?

00:05:47.160 No closer to the truth than we were yesterday.

00:05:50.140 In fact, we may be a few steps back in this elusive, never-ending investigation.

00:05:56.040 No one is sure.

00:05:58.620 The media is sure.

00:06:01.000 Oh, they're utterly convinced that Donald Trump has to go.

00:06:04.640 The Democrats are utterly convinced.

00:06:07.040 There was a headline on CNN this morning.

00:06:09.720 As I turned on the TV, the CNN headline was,

00:06:13.320 Is it too early for the Democrats to start discussing impeachment?

00:06:20.640 Um, yeah.

00:06:21.600 I think the answer to that is yes.

00:06:23.400 I mean, unless Stormy Daniels is directly linked to Russian collusion.

00:06:32.680 Unless we find out she's the Red Sparrow.

00:06:38.180 The strange part of the FBI raid on Cohen's office

00:06:41.420 is that it's only kind of related to the Russia investigation.

00:06:47.340 Why does this continue to expand?

00:06:49.700 It seems to be a web that grows constantly in new directions

00:06:54.700 without actually leading anywhere.

00:06:58.980 Now, maybe things change.

00:07:03.100 But boy, investigators better have something quick.

00:07:06.440 And it better be big.

00:07:09.440 America can handle the truth.

00:07:12.020 Whatever it is, we want the truth.

00:07:14.480 We want the bad guys to go to jail.

00:07:16.340 We want the good guys to be, you know, protected.

00:07:19.700 We can handle the truth, whatever it is, I hope.

00:07:25.160 But I'm not sure that we can handle

00:07:28.460 this constant drilling down

00:07:33.280 and never even getting close to the truth.

00:07:36.940 It's Tuesday, April 10th.

00:07:46.100 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:07:48.520 All right.

00:07:48.840 So let me

00:07:49.420 let me go through a couple of things.

00:07:53.960 First, let's just talk about the law

00:07:55.720 because I didn't know yesterday.

00:07:57.320 Did you know, Stu,

00:07:58.320 that attorney-client privilege

00:08:00.300 is not always privileged?

00:08:02.620 Well, I mean, it makes sense in that

00:08:03.720 if the attorney is committing a crime, right?

00:08:06.500 Like if Michael Cohen murdered someone, right?

00:08:09.860 The fact that he talked about it with Donald Trump

00:08:12.320 is not going to protect that information from coming out.

00:08:15.040 Correct.

00:08:15.520 So this is really important to understand

00:08:19.100 because this is the whole crux of the matter.

00:08:23.380 As far as I understand it,

00:08:25.960 if Donald Trump is talking to his attorney

00:08:29.920 and he says, you know,

00:08:32.520 because Perry Mason used to always say,

00:08:34.000 you gotta tell me the truth, man.

00:08:36.460 Why didn't you tell me the truth?

00:08:38.380 Well, because I didn't.

00:08:39.560 You gotta tell me the truth.

00:08:40.920 And the reason why

00:08:42.320 attorneys always say,

00:08:44.260 tell me the truth

00:08:45.140 is because they have to know

00:08:46.980 so they can truly defend you.

00:08:49.480 And that is why there is that privilege.

00:08:52.940 So they can get to the unvarnished truth.

00:08:57.940 And that's protected.

00:09:00.020 However,

00:09:01.300 if Donald Trump is talking to Michael Cohen

00:09:04.040 and Michael Cohen tells Donald Trump

00:09:06.920 he did something illegal,

00:09:09.220 then that's not protected

00:09:11.220 because Donald Trump is not Cohen's attorney.

00:09:14.400 That's one aspect of this.

00:09:21.020 And the crime fraud exception

00:09:23.100 to the attorney-client privilege.

00:09:25.160 Crime fraud exception applies

00:09:26.660 if the client was in the process of committing

00:09:28.620 or intended to commit a crime or fraudulent act

00:09:31.060 and the client communicated with the lawyer

00:09:33.440 with the intent to further the crime or fraud

00:09:35.920 or to cover it up.

00:09:38.180 You know, and again,

00:09:39.000 that is usually,

00:09:41.060 there's another part of this

00:09:42.100 that has to do with

00:09:42.820 actually searching a client's office.

00:09:45.880 For purposes of this policy,

00:09:47.240 the subject includes an attorney

00:09:49.000 who is a suspect,

00:09:50.740 subject, or target,

00:09:52.320 or an attorney who is related

00:09:53.880 by blood or marriage to a suspect

00:09:55.480 or who is believed

00:09:56.760 to be in possession of contraband

00:09:58.140 or the fruits or instrumentalities

00:10:00.080 of a crime.

00:10:01.660 Okay.

00:10:02.260 So I hide my knife

00:10:04.160 in my attorney's office.

00:10:05.800 Right.

00:10:06.400 It's like without this exception

00:10:08.240 and it's...

00:10:09.340 By the way,

00:10:09.740 I just want to show

00:10:10.480 it was an assault knife.

00:10:12.100 I'm going to tell you that straight up.

00:10:14.380 Without this,

00:10:14.920 essentially,

00:10:15.520 what you'd be doing

00:10:16.360 is giving attorneys

00:10:18.600 immunity from the law.

00:10:21.120 All they'd have to do

00:10:22.160 with their crimes

00:10:23.300 is talk to one of their clients

00:10:24.720 and they'd never get prosecuted

00:10:25.900 for a crime themselves.

00:10:26.700 This doesn't mean

00:10:27.260 that Donald Trump committed a crime.

00:10:28.680 It's that they believe

00:10:29.880 Michael Cohen committed a crime.

00:10:32.380 Okay.

00:10:32.660 So now,

00:10:33.200 here's the other thing.

00:10:35.200 When this happens,

00:10:36.980 there is a dirty team

00:10:38.240 and a clean team.

00:10:39.180 And this is really important.

00:10:40.720 The government cannot go in

00:10:43.420 and just...

00:10:44.240 If they're investigating somebody,

00:10:45.780 they cannot just go in themselves

00:10:48.220 and read all of the documents

00:10:51.620 that are attorney-client privileged.

00:10:53.680 So they have to send in

00:10:56.300 a second group.

00:10:58.200 And these are not investigators

00:11:00.400 with the dirty team,

00:11:03.860 if you will,

00:11:04.320 or the...

00:11:05.180 I can't remember which one.

00:11:07.700 Let me see which...

00:11:08.420 Which one is clean?

00:11:09.900 Set up a dirty team.

00:11:11.360 Okay.

00:11:11.520 So the clean team

00:11:13.460 is the one

00:11:14.140 that is running

00:11:14.880 the investigation.

00:11:16.580 Okay.

00:11:16.960 So that would be...

00:11:18.640 You know,

00:11:18.840 let's just say it's Mueller,

00:11:20.380 just to keep it simple.

00:11:21.380 Okay.

00:11:21.860 So Mueller's running

00:11:22.960 the investigation.

00:11:24.040 And he says,

00:11:25.000 I'm telling you,

00:11:26.920 here's what's really going on.

00:11:31.120 And Cohen has this,

00:11:33.200 this, and this.

00:11:34.440 And if I put all the pressure on him,

00:11:37.140 I can.

00:11:37.840 He's hiding it.

00:11:38.780 I'm telling you,

00:11:39.920 it is in the office.

00:11:41.040 They say,

00:11:41.900 okay,

00:11:42.460 go to a judge.

00:11:44.040 This is not a FISA court judge.

00:11:46.160 This is a magistrate.

00:11:47.660 This is a...

00:11:48.280 This is regular

00:11:50.640 non-Patriot Act stuff.

00:11:54.740 It goes to the judge.

00:11:56.860 After it has gone

00:11:58.100 to the local attorneys,

00:12:00.460 federal attorneys,

00:12:01.880 the attorneys have to sign off

00:12:03.540 and say,

00:12:04.060 yeah,

00:12:04.240 you've got something there.

00:12:05.520 Yep,

00:12:05.860 you've got something.

00:12:06.860 Yep,

00:12:07.180 you've got something.

00:12:07.860 Let's gather it all up.

00:12:08.980 Let's bring it to the judge.

00:12:10.320 The judge then has to look at it

00:12:12.140 and say,

00:12:12.940 okay,

00:12:13.920 we're going to take

00:12:14.800 extraordinary circumstance

00:12:16.760 approach on this

00:12:18.540 because

00:12:19.360 there's a 99% chance

00:12:22.280 you've,

00:12:22.940 you've,

00:12:23.380 he's got it in his office.

00:12:24.360 He's got the knife in his safe.

00:12:26.440 So,

00:12:27.360 go.

00:12:28.540 Now,

00:12:29.040 in this particular case,

00:12:30.700 all of those attorneys

00:12:31.840 and that judge

00:12:32.980 were appointed

00:12:33.600 by Donald Trump.

00:12:34.980 So,

00:12:37.200 it wasn't easy.

00:12:38.700 This is not deep state stuff.

00:12:40.700 And the judge

00:12:41.940 don't know

00:12:43.120 exactly what he's thinking,

00:12:45.200 but I'm guessing

00:12:45.960 this is historic.

00:12:48.360 This can change

00:12:49.640 everything.

00:12:51.440 And you damn well

00:12:53.280 better get this one right.

00:12:54.780 So,

00:12:55.320 I don't think that the judge

00:12:56.620 just higgledy-piggledy

00:12:57.660 said,

00:12:57.940 oh,

00:12:58.140 you know what?

00:12:58.660 Yeah,

00:12:58.880 go on in.

00:13:00.360 He thought of this.

00:13:02.260 He had to have

00:13:03.640 because he's going to,

00:13:05.380 he'll be in the history books.

00:13:07.020 If this was wrong,

00:13:09.060 he's going to be

00:13:09.660 in the history books.

00:13:10.860 So,

00:13:11.460 nobody took this lightly.

00:13:13.600 Now,

00:13:14.220 they go in

00:13:14.920 and they gather everything.

00:13:16.800 The clean team,

00:13:18.800 they're the ones

00:13:19.780 doing the investigation.

00:13:21.180 They are not part

00:13:22.740 of that raid.

00:13:24.320 They go in,

00:13:25.360 they gather everything

00:13:26.380 the judge said

00:13:27.140 that they could gather,

00:13:27.960 and the dirty team

00:13:29.880 is the one

00:13:30.480 that does that

00:13:31.220 and they are instructed,

00:13:33.560 what am I looking for

00:13:34.740 by the clean team?

00:13:36.320 And the clean team says,

00:13:37.380 you're looking for this,

00:13:38.260 this,

00:13:38.540 this.

00:13:39.680 Okay.

00:13:40.880 They then go through

00:13:42.000 all of the communications,

00:13:43.680 all of the paperwork,

00:13:44.780 all of the documents

00:13:45.660 and they are looking

00:13:46.560 only for those things.

00:13:48.940 If those things exist,

00:13:50.760 if they find a knife

00:13:51.700 in the safe,

00:13:52.440 they bring it out.

00:13:54.940 If they don't find

00:13:56.240 a knife in the safe,

00:13:57.180 they put all

00:13:57.960 of that stuff back

00:13:58.820 and say,

00:13:59.380 sorry,

00:13:59.900 you were wrong

00:14:00.500 and they are not allowed

00:14:02.140 to tell anyone

00:14:03.720 what they read

00:14:05.440 outside of that investigation.

00:14:09.200 Now,

00:14:09.700 that's the way

00:14:10.180 it's supposed to work.

00:14:11.720 I would imagine

00:14:12.660 that's the way

00:14:13.220 it's going to work.

00:14:14.800 I would hope

00:14:15.780 that it's going to work.

00:14:18.060 The,

00:14:18.760 the,

00:14:19.960 the investigation

00:14:21.720 seems to be

00:14:23.340 on Cohen

00:14:24.260 and not

00:14:25.840 on Donald Trump.

00:14:28.220 This is a slippery slope.

00:14:30.720 If Donald Trump

00:14:32.160 don't please,

00:14:33.440 Mr. President,

00:14:34.220 please,

00:14:35.220 please do not

00:14:36.940 take the bait.

00:14:39.320 There is a giant trap

00:14:41.660 in the woods

00:14:42.620 and it,

00:14:45.040 right,

00:14:45.440 sitting there,

00:14:46.160 right on the little lever

00:14:47.420 that closes that trap

00:14:48.960 is Mueller.

00:14:51.980 If you go

00:14:53.140 to grab that,

00:14:55.020 that trap

00:14:55.780 will go off

00:14:56.540 and ensnare you.

00:14:57.680 Do not,

00:14:58.940 please,

00:14:59.480 Mr. President,

00:15:00.460 do not

00:15:01.420 fire Mueller.

00:15:03.740 The president

00:15:04.760 is being pushed

00:15:05.740 into a corner

00:15:06.820 and it is

00:15:08.680 a political corner

00:15:09.860 and he's got

00:15:11.480 to be smart enough

00:15:12.540 not

00:15:13.280 to take

00:15:14.120 the bait.

00:15:15.860 Please,

00:15:16.780 don't take

00:15:17.420 the bait.

00:15:18.180 Don't escalate.

00:15:20.820 Let it

00:15:21.660 play out.

00:15:24.700 But don't

00:15:25.660 fire

00:15:26.040 Mueller.

00:15:28.380 No,

00:15:29.040 that's not

00:15:29.380 a good move

00:15:29.920 because

00:15:31.180 without,

00:15:33.180 remember,

00:15:33.700 impeachment

00:15:33.980 is a political

00:15:34.740 process.

00:15:35.980 So without

00:15:36.260 a big

00:15:37.200 midterm

00:15:38.200 election victory

00:15:39.580 in the House

00:15:40.660 and the Senate,

00:15:41.540 most likely

00:15:42.740 Donald Trump

00:15:43.900 is not going

00:15:44.400 to get impeached.

00:15:45.100 If he loses

00:15:46.340 the House,

00:15:46.720 he may get impeached

00:15:47.240 but he's not

00:15:47.560 going to get removed.

00:15:48.920 The issue

00:15:49.460 is if you

00:15:49.960 do something

00:15:51.220 that's so

00:15:52.180 brazen,

00:15:53.500 it starts

00:15:54.200 pissing off

00:15:55.280 those fringe

00:15:57.240 supporters

00:15:58.060 in the Republican

00:15:59.340 Party,

00:16:00.000 the Lindsey

00:16:00.540 Grahams of the

00:16:01.200 world.

00:16:01.560 And you might

00:16:02.080 say,

00:16:02.340 who cares

00:16:02.620 about Lindsey

00:16:03.000 Graham?

00:16:03.440 Believe me,

00:16:03.900 not me.

00:16:04.680 But it comes

00:16:05.920 down to pure

00:16:06.360 numbers at that

00:16:07.020 point.

00:16:07.860 And if you

00:16:08.100 get enough

00:16:09.080 of those,

00:16:10.360 even if you

00:16:10.780 think they're

00:16:11.080 not Trump

00:16:11.480 people,

00:16:11.900 even if you

00:16:12.200 think they're

00:16:12.640 annoying

00:16:12.920 moderates like

00:16:13.600 Susan Collins,

00:16:14.300 you need them

00:16:15.240 all.

00:16:15.400 You need them

00:16:15.980 all.

00:16:16.320 You need them

00:16:16.840 to be able to

00:16:17.320 protect that

00:16:17.920 line of removal

00:16:19.520 from office.

00:16:20.420 And you can't

00:16:20.960 give them easy

00:16:21.840 stuff.

00:16:22.700 You can't give

00:16:23.440 them a firing

00:16:24.080 of Mueller.

00:16:25.320 You can't.

00:16:26.420 You can't.

00:16:27.740 Because those

00:16:28.520 guys will be

00:16:29.380 swayed and

00:16:30.820 they'll move

00:16:31.540 off to the

00:16:32.380 side.

00:16:32.720 You can't

00:16:33.440 give them

00:16:33.980 anything easy.

00:16:36.180 And is

00:16:36.480 anything from

00:16:37.100 Michael Cohen

00:16:37.600 going to lead

00:16:38.100 back to Trump?

00:16:39.360 Very

00:16:39.560 specifically,

00:16:40.340 Michael Cohen's

00:16:40.980 job is to

00:16:41.900 make sure it

00:16:42.480 doesn't.

00:16:43.480 So if he's

00:16:44.000 an attorney of

00:16:45.100 any value,

00:16:46.600 it won't

00:16:48.300 get back to

00:16:48.960 Trump.

00:16:49.580 Let's,

00:16:49.960 I want to

00:16:51.380 get back to

00:16:52.540 that because I

00:16:53.060 don't know if

00:16:53.560 he's an attorney

00:16:54.860 of any value.

00:16:55.560 Oh, I don't,

00:16:55.900 I think he's

00:16:56.240 terrible.

00:16:56.640 Yeah, I think

00:16:57.120 he's a terrible

00:16:57.760 human being.

00:16:58.360 If he has any

00:16:59.100 ability as an

00:17:00.120 attorney, this is

00:17:01.340 exactly his job

00:17:02.480 to protect

00:17:03.160 Donald Trump.

00:17:03.720 not sure that

00:17:06.300 that happened

00:17:07.100 because I don't

00:17:07.880 think these guys

00:17:08.800 expected to win

00:17:09.860 and I think

00:17:11.260 that changed

00:17:12.220 everything.

00:17:14.100 We're going to

00:17:14.620 talk about that.

00:17:15.220 Also, Frank Luntz

00:17:16.040 is going to join

00:17:16.520 us in a few

00:17:16.960 minutes.

00:17:17.240 How is this

00:17:17.640 going to play

00:17:18.100 with the

00:17:18.400 American people?

00:17:19.420 What does

00:17:19.720 this mean?

00:17:21.540 This is just

00:17:22.260 not good.

00:17:22.740 This is just

00:17:23.180 a big development

00:17:24.560 on our

00:17:26.320 disunion

00:17:26.900 again.

00:17:28.440 All right,

00:17:29.260 let me tell

00:17:29.740 you about

00:17:30.020 American finance.

00:17:31.600 American finance

00:17:32.680 would recommend

00:17:34.240 and so would

00:17:34.860 I, that you

00:17:35.600 refinance your

00:17:37.120 home loan

00:17:37.520 now.

00:17:38.440 If you have

00:17:39.620 a mortgage

00:17:40.880 and it is an

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00:19:04.640 Glenn Beck

00:19:07.820 Mercury

00:19:08.760 Glenn Beck

00:19:16.400 Reason has a

00:19:18.360 story about

00:19:18.900 the breakdown

00:19:19.560 of this.

00:19:20.540 It says,

00:19:21.080 according to

00:19:21.500 Cohen's own

00:19:22.260 lawyer,

00:19:22.980 the U.S.

00:19:23.360 Attorney's

00:19:23.640 Office for

00:19:23.980 the Southern

00:19:24.260 District of

00:19:24.680 New York

00:19:24.960 widely regarded

00:19:25.840 within itself

00:19:26.460 as being the

00:19:26.940 most important

00:19:27.440 and prestigious

00:19:27.980 U.S.

00:19:28.340 Attorney's

00:19:28.680 Office in

00:19:29.320 the country

00:19:29.760 secured the

00:19:30.720 search warrants

00:19:31.220 for the FBI

00:19:31.960 based on

00:19:32.820 referral from

00:19:33.580 Robert Mueller's

00:19:34.320 office.

00:19:35.280 Assuming this

00:19:35.520 report is

00:19:35.920 correct,

00:19:36.260 that means

00:19:36.540 that the

00:19:36.720 very mainstream

00:19:37.360 U.S.

00:19:37.880 Attorney's

00:19:38.220 Office,

00:19:38.680 not just

00:19:39.200 special counsel

00:19:40.040 Robert Mueller's

00:19:40.920 office,

00:19:41.500 thought there

00:19:41.920 was enough

00:19:42.340 for a search

00:19:42.940 warrant here.

00:19:43.940 There was an

00:19:44.640 early CNN

00:19:45.320 report that

00:19:45.820 mentioned

00:19:46.920 that the

00:19:48.860 judge himself

00:19:50.360 was appointed

00:19:51.100 by Trump.

00:19:51.660 That's a mistake.

00:19:52.180 by Trump.

00:19:53.920 It's actually

00:19:54.320 the U.S.

00:19:56.560 Attorney of

00:19:56.940 the Southern

00:19:57.300 District of

00:19:57.760 New York,

00:19:58.160 Jeffrey Berman,

00:19:59.060 the guy who

00:19:59.580 went to get

00:20:00.600 this done.

00:20:02.640 So the judge

00:20:03.320 is a magistrate.

00:20:05.500 He's appointed

00:20:06.180 by all of the

00:20:07.360 other judges,

00:20:08.000 so there's not

00:20:08.720 that outside

00:20:09.920 political influence.

00:20:12.060 So he's

00:20:12.780 supposedly more

00:20:13.800 neutral,

00:20:14.300 but it is

00:20:15.660 the fact

00:20:16.180 that the

00:20:17.360 FBI

00:20:19.600 came,

00:20:20.740 appointed by

00:20:21.600 Trump,

00:20:22.140 and had to

00:20:22.580 convince him

00:20:23.440 we need to

00:20:24.360 break this

00:20:24.860 rule.

00:20:25.560 Mercury.

00:20:31.140 This is

00:20:32.200 the Glenn

00:20:32.500 Beck Program.

00:20:33.580 Very excited

00:20:34.240 to talk to

00:20:35.080 my friend

00:20:35.480 Frank Luntz,

00:20:36.760 focuswithfrank.com

00:20:38.620 and founder

00:20:39.460 and chairman

00:20:39.880 of Luntz

00:20:40.400 Global.

00:20:42.380 Welcome,

00:20:43.100 Frank.

00:20:43.280 How are

00:20:43.600 you?

00:20:44.880 I'm fine.

00:20:45.700 I appreciate

00:20:46.400 the chance

00:20:47.840 to talk to

00:20:48.660 you.

00:20:48.960 It's been,

00:20:50.500 and I have

00:20:51.560 to stay off

00:20:52.180 television because

00:20:53.200 every time I

00:20:54.720 get interviewed,

00:20:55.720 I inevitably

00:20:57.000 say something

00:20:57.940 that just

00:20:58.600 blows life up

00:20:59.860 for the next

00:21:00.380 24 hours.

00:21:01.340 Yeah,

00:21:01.420 I know,

00:21:01.960 I know.

00:21:02.660 And you're,

00:21:03.260 you know,

00:21:03.520 when you say

00:21:03.900 good to talk

00:21:04.420 to you,

00:21:04.840 I don't know

00:21:05.500 if you believe

00:21:05.960 that,

00:21:06.320 Frank.

00:21:06.720 I mean,

00:21:06.980 it's just,

00:21:07.820 it's just,

00:21:08.520 to talk to you.

00:21:09.280 Yeah,

00:21:09.500 it's good.

00:21:09.920 My issue

00:21:10.180 is the people

00:21:12.180 who listen.

00:21:13.000 And can I

00:21:13.780 raise that

00:21:14.400 just for one

00:21:15.000 second in a

00:21:15.720 genuinely respectful

00:21:17.260 way?

00:21:17.820 Sure.

00:21:18.660 You retweeted,

00:21:20.280 let me speak

00:21:21.440 English here,

00:21:22.540 you retweeted

00:21:24.100 my New Year's

00:21:25.620 resolutions,

00:21:26.420 the things that I

00:21:27.120 was going to try

00:21:27.680 to do this year

00:21:29.080 to be a better

00:21:29.820 person.

00:21:30.680 And they were,

00:21:31.100 a couple of

00:21:31.900 them were

00:21:32.180 deliberately funny

00:21:33.060 and the other

00:21:34.340 ones were serious.

00:21:35.400 I think I gave

00:21:35.900 you a list

00:21:36.220 of 10.

00:21:37.340 And the responses

00:21:38.460 from those

00:21:39.420 who are listening

00:21:39.940 to me right

00:21:40.540 now were so

00:21:41.360 mean and so

00:21:43.300 vicious.

00:21:45.380 The usual

00:21:46.220 stuff,

00:21:46.640 making fun of

00:21:47.140 my weight

00:21:47.620 and how I

00:21:48.220 look or

00:21:49.540 calling me a

00:21:50.460 traitor,

00:21:51.780 a loser.

00:21:52.380 Why have we

00:21:55.140 become so

00:21:57.120 mean?

00:21:58.540 And is this

00:21:59.100 really what we

00:21:59.880 want to teach

00:22:00.760 our kids?

00:22:02.200 That if you

00:22:03.080 disagree with

00:22:03.920 someone, do you

00:22:04.640 tell your child to

00:22:05.540 just start insulting

00:22:06.500 them publicly,

00:22:09.280 tearing them down

00:22:10.120 or bullying them

00:22:11.060 in any way?

00:22:12.540 It doesn't bother

00:22:13.920 me on a personal

00:22:15.040 level, but it

00:22:15.740 really bothers me

00:22:16.860 on a cultural

00:22:17.540 level.

00:22:17.960 that we are

00:22:19.640 now so

00:22:20.880 ugly to each

00:22:22.760 other, and this

00:22:23.500 is not the

00:22:24.440 American way.

00:22:25.900 This is not

00:22:26.720 what we should

00:22:27.760 be as a

00:22:28.260 country.

00:22:28.680 This is not

00:22:29.120 what made us

00:22:29.680 so great as a

00:22:30.460 country.

00:22:31.480 We were always

00:22:32.520 willing to

00:22:33.000 disagree, always

00:22:34.140 willing to argue

00:22:35.140 and then come

00:22:36.120 together for a

00:22:36.940 common good.

00:22:38.020 But thanks to

00:22:39.000 the web and

00:22:39.940 social media, and

00:22:42.100 it's happening on

00:22:42.980 the right, not

00:22:43.940 just on the

00:22:44.560 left, that it's

00:22:46.780 open season.

00:22:47.600 And I know the

00:22:48.420 comments you'll

00:22:48.940 get to what I'm

00:22:49.660 saying right now

00:22:50.360 will be, oh, he's

00:22:51.140 fat, and he's

00:22:51.980 got to, and he's

00:22:53.060 They want to call

00:22:54.180 you fat, Frank.

00:22:54.920 They've got to

00:22:55.200 come through me

00:22:55.840 because I'm

00:22:57.100 fatter than you

00:22:57.680 are now.

00:22:58.560 And he's overly

00:23:00.420 defensive.

00:23:01.700 But you know

00:23:02.400 what?

00:23:02.700 The same people

00:23:03.380 who go to church

00:23:04.200 on Sunday and

00:23:06.020 ask for forgiveness

00:23:06.860 are the same

00:23:08.240 people on Monday

00:23:09.500 who write the

00:23:10.860 most vicious

00:23:11.600 postings.

00:23:12.680 And I'm sorry,

00:23:13.780 but I don't know

00:23:14.540 how to reconcile

00:23:15.200 that.

00:23:16.360 So, Frank,

00:23:17.380 I'd actually

00:23:18.880 like to sit

00:23:19.780 down and talk

00:23:20.320 to you about

00:23:20.700 that at some

00:23:21.880 point, because

00:23:22.720 I see the same

00:23:25.020 things that you're

00:23:25.720 seeing on both

00:23:26.640 sides and have

00:23:27.240 for a long time.

00:23:28.020 Let me just

00:23:28.400 quickly say to

00:23:29.920 the audience,

00:23:31.780 Frank is a guy

00:23:33.660 that when I first

00:23:34.720 met him, I didn't

00:23:35.420 know if I trusted

00:23:36.120 him because I

00:23:36.960 didn't know if he

00:23:37.500 was part of the

00:23:38.240 cabal of Washington

00:23:39.400 or what.

00:23:41.160 And so I watched

00:23:42.240 him for a while.

00:23:43.000 And I have

00:23:44.120 rarely seen a

00:23:47.020 man who cares

00:23:48.140 as deeply for

00:23:49.360 his country as

00:23:50.320 Frank Luntz, a

00:23:52.040 man who is a

00:23:53.680 watchman on the

00:23:54.500 tower and is

00:23:55.300 gathering the

00:23:56.300 evidence of what

00:23:57.420 is happening to

00:23:58.960 us as individuals

00:24:00.460 and is listening

00:24:01.700 to people, truly

00:24:02.980 listening and

00:24:04.700 trying to tell

00:24:06.260 the people in the

00:24:07.140 media and in

00:24:08.080 Washington what

00:24:09.080 you're saying.

00:24:09.960 And I've seen

00:24:11.640 this man go

00:24:13.340 through heartbreak

00:24:15.240 and every time

00:24:18.940 I, that's why I

00:24:19.920 laughed when he

00:24:20.440 said good to talk

00:24:21.300 to you because

00:24:22.820 Frank and I

00:24:24.340 believe many of

00:24:25.020 the same things

00:24:25.700 about where we're

00:24:26.460 headed as a

00:24:27.420 people and we're

00:24:29.380 both so frustrated

00:24:30.540 because we don't

00:24:32.460 feel that anybody

00:24:34.300 in power is

00:24:35.480 listening and we're

00:24:36.400 now starting to be

00:24:37.520 a little afraid

00:24:38.320 that people have

00:24:39.920 grown cold

00:24:41.080 inside but

00:24:42.240 Frank, blow

00:24:45.620 those people

00:24:46.240 off.

00:24:47.160 I know who you

00:24:47.840 are and I know

00:24:49.260 what your intent

00:24:50.040 is and I

00:24:51.460 appreciate it.

00:24:52.520 I really

00:24:53.280 appreciate it.

00:24:54.620 So that'll be

00:24:56.000 the kindest thing

00:24:56.940 that'll be, I

00:24:58.360 should be recording

00:24:59.540 this because that

00:25:01.060 will be, you

00:25:01.760 will be the only

00:25:02.540 kind voice I hear

00:25:04.060 today and I

00:25:04.640 promise you,

00:25:05.320 Glenn, go look

00:25:06.940 at the comments

00:25:07.900 after people

00:25:09.400 listen to this.

00:25:11.660 Let's see if

00:25:12.580 there's any

00:25:13.160 warmth.

00:25:14.180 Let's see if

00:25:14.660 there's at least

00:25:15.460 an understanding

00:25:16.360 that this

00:25:17.660 viciousness and

00:25:19.600 the brutality

00:25:20.320 that we

00:25:21.480 communicate to

00:25:22.220 each other.

00:25:23.160 Look, you're,

00:25:24.020 you, you are

00:25:24.800 among the most

00:25:25.540 principled people

00:25:26.420 I know and you

00:25:27.880 wear your

00:25:28.220 principles on

00:25:28.880 your sleeve and

00:25:29.720 you're, you're

00:25:30.280 passionate and

00:25:31.740 emotional and,

00:25:33.560 and because of

00:25:34.260 that controversial

00:25:34.960 as am I, but

00:25:37.400 we're trying to

00:25:38.540 have a, an

00:25:40.160 adult conversation

00:25:41.340 and when we

00:25:42.460 hate it, when

00:25:43.640 people like Bill

00:25:44.540 Maher dismiss

00:25:46.180 those with

00:25:47.500 faith and, and

00:25:48.600 belief and

00:25:49.420 seeking trust, we

00:25:51.660 dismiss people

00:25:52.740 like him as

00:25:53.860 being rude and

00:25:54.780 offensive, but

00:25:56.740 too often we

00:25:58.080 do exactly the

00:25:59.180 same thing

00:25:59.740 towards the

00:26:00.260 left.

00:26:00.660 It's not right

00:26:01.540 when they do

00:26:02.060 it to us.

00:26:02.600 It's not

00:26:03.140 right when we

00:26:03.720 do it to

00:26:04.180 them.

00:26:04.860 And I just

00:26:05.640 think we can

00:26:06.100 have these

00:26:06.520 conversations in

00:26:08.120 a far more

00:26:08.820 productive way.

00:26:10.460 And, and in

00:26:11.320 the end, in

00:26:12.080 some cases agree

00:26:12.880 to disagree and

00:26:13.720 in other cases

00:26:14.320 agree to work

00:26:14.940 together.

00:26:16.100 So, um,

00:26:16.960 Frank, let me

00:26:17.640 change the

00:26:18.260 subject here, um,

00:26:19.680 and, and, and

00:26:21.240 see what you

00:26:21.940 think the

00:26:23.120 response is

00:26:24.160 going to be,

00:26:25.060 uh, to

00:26:26.800 what happened

00:26:28.600 with, with

00:26:29.420 Cohen yesterday,

00:26:30.260 because this

00:26:31.100 is a, this

00:26:31.800 is a really

00:26:32.520 complex kind

00:26:33.660 of story.

00:26:34.620 And I think

00:26:35.480 everybody's going

00:26:36.060 to run to

00:26:36.440 their tribes

00:26:37.120 and not

00:26:37.640 really pay

00:26:38.280 attention.

00:26:39.120 And I

00:26:40.120 think this

00:26:40.660 is deeply,

00:26:42.420 deeply dividing

00:26:43.500 if the

00:26:45.540 FBI doesn't

00:26:47.120 have something

00:26:48.060 gigantic, uh,

00:26:50.460 that comes out

00:26:51.340 of this

00:26:51.800 quickly.

00:26:54.120 I agree with

00:26:55.040 that because

00:26:55.680 what people are

00:26:56.380 asking now is

00:26:57.220 if you can

00:26:58.180 basically invade

00:27:00.540 the president's

00:27:01.600 lawyer's office

00:27:03.260 and take

00:27:04.200 everything,

00:27:05.500 then there

00:27:06.600 are no

00:27:07.460 limits that

00:27:08.680 the federal

00:27:09.080 government can

00:27:09.760 use.

00:27:10.200 And I know

00:27:10.580 people have

00:27:10.980 been investigated

00:27:11.600 and I know

00:27:12.540 people have

00:27:12.900 been thrown

00:27:13.200 to jail.

00:27:13.640 And these

00:27:14.100 are conservatives

00:27:15.220 who told me

00:27:16.260 that their

00:27:17.540 support for

00:27:18.380 law and order

00:27:18.960 completely changed

00:27:20.280 when you have

00:27:21.920 a lawyer on

00:27:23.080 your side and

00:27:23.960 you have 20

00:27:24.720 people against

00:27:25.580 you and they

00:27:26.320 assume you're

00:27:27.000 guilty, guilty

00:27:28.280 until proven

00:27:29.000 innocent.

00:27:29.800 Yeah.

00:27:30.340 That the

00:27:31.160 traditional

00:27:31.680 conservative

00:27:32.300 approach of

00:27:33.060 being pro-FBI,

00:27:34.800 pro-CIA,

00:27:35.740 pro-justice,

00:27:36.600 pro-investigation,

00:27:37.980 that if you're

00:27:38.660 indicted, you're

00:27:39.420 therefore guilty.

00:27:40.580 When they've

00:27:41.060 been through

00:27:41.460 this, they

00:27:42.080 tell me that

00:27:43.580 their opinion

00:27:44.220 of the

00:27:45.760 judiciary and

00:27:47.720 the justice

00:27:48.160 system in

00:27:48.700 America goes

00:27:50.260 from 100%

00:27:51.320 support to

00:27:52.100 0%.

00:27:52.820 And I think

00:27:54.020 there's an

00:27:54.460 interesting

00:27:55.060 perspective there

00:27:55.900 that we need

00:27:56.360 to learn.

00:27:57.480 If you're

00:27:58.420 on that

00:27:59.800 side that

00:28:01.080 says that

00:28:01.880 they don't

00:28:04.300 make mistakes,

00:28:05.160 that if the

00:28:06.260 police accuse

00:28:07.780 you, you're

00:28:08.140 therefore guilty,

00:28:09.360 we need to

00:28:09.940 hear from

00:28:10.300 those who've

00:28:10.780 been through

00:28:11.140 that process

00:28:11.960 because I

00:28:13.500 know I've

00:28:14.180 heard it and

00:28:14.920 it's frightening

00:28:15.500 to think that

00:28:19.860 our government

00:28:20.260 is so out

00:28:20.820 of control

00:28:21.320 that they

00:28:22.240 can destroy

00:28:23.360 people's

00:28:23.840 lives.

00:28:24.460 the government

00:28:25.320 and it

00:28:27.460 is another

00:28:30.460 thread that

00:28:31.520 is being

00:28:31.960 pulled that

00:28:33.580 divides us

00:28:36.920 because the

00:28:37.560 ACLU would

00:28:38.400 have been all

00:28:39.140 over this if

00:28:40.660 this would have

00:28:41.120 been happening

00:28:41.780 and the

00:28:43.220 media.

00:28:44.080 If Hillary

00:28:44.440 Clinton would

00:28:45.060 have won

00:28:45.440 and this

00:28:46.700 would have

00:28:47.140 happened,

00:28:47.740 the media and

00:28:49.840 the ACLU would

00:28:50.660 have been all

00:28:51.120 over this,

00:28:51.540 but there's

00:28:51.920 no consistency.

00:28:53.800 There's no

00:28:54.320 consistency on

00:28:55.100 the left,

00:28:55.540 no consistency

00:28:56.160 on the right

00:28:56.800 and so

00:28:57.640 nothing means

00:28:59.520 anything and

00:29:00.640 it's just

00:29:01.280 another thread

00:29:02.460 where we're

00:29:03.000 left with

00:29:03.780 nothing.

00:29:05.040 Well, the

00:29:06.980 problem is

00:29:07.620 there has to

00:29:08.160 be a solution

00:29:08.740 to this and

00:29:09.720 I think that

00:29:10.680 what they did

00:29:11.900 they would have

00:29:12.740 had a

00:29:13.040 responsibility.

00:29:14.280 This is

00:29:14.540 those who

00:29:16.220 went into

00:29:16.780 Cohen's office

00:29:17.420 that they

00:29:18.460 had a

00:29:18.920 responsibility

00:29:19.460 to explain

00:29:20.740 exactly what

00:29:22.740 they were

00:29:23.040 looking for

00:29:23.800 and the

00:29:24.320 evidence that

00:29:24.920 this is not

00:29:25.460 something that

00:29:25.920 should be

00:29:26.160 confidential.

00:29:27.220 I'm a believer

00:29:27.940 that you shine a

00:29:29.500 bright light on

00:29:31.340 the things that

00:29:31.920 you do and

00:29:32.620 that you have

00:29:33.120 a responsibility

00:29:33.780 to explain

00:29:34.580 and the

00:29:34.880 public has a

00:29:35.400 right to

00:29:35.780 know why

00:29:37.300 these things

00:29:37.760 are happening

00:29:38.300 but when they

00:29:39.200 happen in

00:29:39.740 secret it just

00:29:40.620 creates a

00:29:41.540 greater degree

00:29:42.040 of cynicism

00:29:42.680 and distrust.

00:29:44.180 Horrible.

00:29:45.080 You okay today

00:29:46.060 Frank?

00:29:46.880 I worry about

00:29:47.860 you.

00:29:48.080 I actually do

00:29:48.700 because I know

00:29:49.520 how you

00:29:50.220 I know you.

00:29:51.880 I don't

00:29:52.380 we're not like

00:29:53.160 close friends or

00:29:54.040 anything but I

00:29:55.200 have always felt

00:29:57.200 when I talk

00:29:58.500 to you one

00:29:59.120 on one that

00:30:00.640 you get it

00:30:02.220 and you are

00:30:03.040 carrying the

00:30:03.780 weight of

00:30:04.600 all of the

00:30:06.120 citizens that

00:30:06.900 you talk to

00:30:07.920 in your focus

00:30:08.720 groups.

00:30:09.180 You're carrying

00:30:10.040 their voice

00:30:10.660 around in you

00:30:11.420 and you can't

00:30:11.900 get anybody to

00:30:12.620 listen and

00:30:13.640 it's and it's

00:30:15.380 way it weighs

00:30:16.000 you down.

00:30:16.520 Are you okay?

00:30:17.960 I'm better now

00:30:18.740 than I have been

00:30:19.320 in a long time.

00:30:20.420 Good.

00:30:21.280 I actually left

00:30:22.420 the country.

00:30:22.980 I went to

00:30:23.640 people laugh

00:30:24.640 because I made

00:30:25.360 this comment

00:30:25.800 on Vice

00:30:26.400 18 months

00:30:27.780 ago that I

00:30:28.260 was going

00:30:28.580 to New

00:30:28.900 Zealand.

00:30:29.460 I never

00:30:30.120 made it

00:30:30.540 because I

00:30:30.940 had an

00:30:31.200 earthquake.

00:30:31.900 Well I

00:30:32.120 went about

00:30:33.120 a month ago

00:30:33.740 and it was

00:30:34.360 beautiful.

00:30:35.080 It was exactly

00:30:35.660 what people

00:30:36.100 expected and I

00:30:37.460 got a chance

00:30:37.980 to get outside

00:30:38.820 the country

00:30:39.480 and not have

00:30:40.260 to talk

00:30:40.640 politics for

00:30:41.460 10 days and

00:30:43.180 that actually

00:30:44.280 was the best

00:30:45.820 blessing I've

00:30:46.500 had.

00:30:47.480 What I find

00:30:48.920 is it actually

00:30:50.220 does help to

00:30:51.480 turn it off

00:30:52.460 and to just

00:30:54.340 enjoy life

00:30:55.300 itself.

00:30:56.100 It's very

00:30:56.580 hard to do.

00:30:57.580 I don't

00:30:57.920 believe many

00:30:58.440 of your

00:30:58.680 listeners do

00:30:59.260 that.

00:30:59.560 I think that

00:30:59.960 one of the

00:31:00.520 reasons why

00:31:00.960 they listen

00:31:01.420 to you is

00:31:01.860 because they

00:31:02.280 want to know

00:31:02.760 the truth.

00:31:03.540 They want to

00:31:04.020 know the truth.

00:31:05.260 But in my

00:31:05.980 case if you

00:31:06.540 internalize it

00:31:07.480 and you

00:31:08.400 personalize it

00:31:09.400 it becomes

00:31:10.320 very difficult

00:31:10.980 over time.

00:31:12.520 Frank good

00:31:13.400 to talk to

00:31:13.820 you.

00:31:14.220 Have a good

00:31:14.520 day.

00:31:14.800 Thank you so

00:31:15.220 much.

00:31:16.220 Len thank you.

00:31:16.960 You bet.

00:31:25.300 Let's take a

00:31:30.400 moment to

00:31:30.680 criticize Frank

00:31:31.320 Luntz here.

00:31:34.060 I'm obviously

00:31:34.840 joking but you

00:31:35.480 know we love

00:31:36.340 Frank but he

00:31:37.420 hope he gets

00:31:38.740 out of the way

00:31:39.180 of the comments

00:31:39.740 and you know

00:31:40.580 social media can

00:31:41.340 be so destructive

00:31:42.080 to people.

00:31:42.420 the thing is

00:31:43.520 is he's I

00:31:44.920 think he's

00:31:45.480 internalizing that

00:31:46.440 because he's

00:31:47.760 he's trying to

00:31:49.300 work for the

00:31:50.000 people.

00:31:50.640 What he does

00:31:51.480 yeah is he

00:31:52.440 listens to

00:31:53.320 people and so

00:31:54.400 for the last

00:31:55.000 six seven eight

00:31:56.080 years he's been

00:31:57.300 coming to me we've

00:31:58.060 had several

00:31:58.860 private conversations

00:31:59.740 and maybe over

00:32:00.980 the last ten and

00:32:02.160 he has been just

00:32:03.480 as concerned about

00:32:05.220 things and said

00:32:06.080 Glenn you know

00:32:07.060 he's come to me

00:32:07.620 several times and

00:32:08.380 said Glenn you're

00:32:09.440 the only one that

00:32:10.300 is actually listening

00:32:11.440 to the people

00:32:12.140 you're the only

00:32:12.960 one that is

00:32:13.480 actually getting

00:32:14.480 this and I'm

00:32:15.180 telling you it's

00:32:15.820 worse than you

00:32:16.540 think somebody's

00:32:17.820 got to speak for

00:32:18.840 them somebody has

00:32:20.300 to listen and he

00:32:21.740 could never get

00:32:22.440 anybody to listen

00:32:23.240 and now I feel

00:32:24.320 like he feels like

00:32:25.800 now people are

00:32:26.600 turning on him and

00:32:28.240 he's like I I'm

00:32:29.820 just I just trying

00:32:30.960 to help I'm trying

00:32:32.240 to tell people what

00:32:33.300 you're saying and

00:32:34.660 and why you're

00:32:36.380 frustrated and what

00:32:37.440 they've done to

00:32:39.060 cause that frustration

00:32:40.280 and to and to

00:32:42.080 heal it and I

00:32:43.200 think I think

00:32:43.920 that's what he's

00:32:44.380 feeling it's really

00:32:45.160 difficult though when

00:32:45.900 you look at Twitter

00:32:47.720 to have anything

00:32:49.580 other than the

00:32:50.500 opinion that the

00:32:51.240 world's going to

00:32:51.760 collapse upon

00:32:52.680 itself at any

00:32:53.540 moment it's just

00:32:54.760 not a fun place to

00:32:55.760 be unless you can

00:32:56.360 completely ignore it

00:32:57.560 and disassociate

00:32:58.340 yourself from what's

00:32:59.620 going on there

00:33:00.220 even if you disagree

00:33:01.660 with Frank Luntz

00:33:02.500 do me a favor

00:33:03.480 tweet something nice

00:33:05.260 to him

00:33:06.160 let a man let a

00:33:09.680 man have a little

00:33:10.880 bit of hope in

00:33:12.380 humanity that we

00:33:14.420 can disagree without

00:33:16.040 hating each other

00:33:16.840 calling each other

00:33:17.540 names do that

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00:35:18.560 glenn beck mercury

00:35:22.640 glenn beck

00:35:30.460 just writing a

00:35:34.320 the frank i think you

00:35:36.880 know it's weird it's

00:35:37.540 a sometimes you can

00:35:40.280 forget uh what it's

00:35:41.860 like to be i mean i

00:35:43.300 i've had my kids

00:35:45.360 called names and

00:35:48.080 spat on in public

00:35:49.320 i've had my wife

00:35:50.380 things thrown at her

00:35:52.060 because she was

00:35:52.680 married uh to me

00:35:54.220 you you you can

00:35:56.880 forget and if you've

00:35:58.200 never been in that

00:35:59.620 line of fire people

00:36:00.520 think well i get bad

00:36:01.820 things said about me

00:36:02.680 on social media it's

00:36:03.960 not the same because

00:36:04.780 the volume isn't the

00:36:05.900 same and the the

00:36:07.760 public that actually

00:36:09.260 feels they have a

00:36:10.460 right to do that uh

00:36:12.840 in person is is just

00:36:15.180 it's a it's it

00:36:16.040 becomes shocking

00:36:16.880 and when you first

00:36:18.380 go through it it's

00:36:19.540 uh it's very

00:36:20.160 difficult it's very

00:36:21.240 difficult but that's

00:36:23.280 what we have to get

00:36:23.900 past that's what we

00:36:25.100 have to we have to

00:36:25.940 be we have to have a

00:36:27.660 brighter vision for

00:36:28.580 the future i don't i

00:36:29.920 i i am actually more

00:36:32.260 optimistic than i have

00:36:33.740 been possibly in the

00:36:36.020 last 10 years i i

00:36:38.660 believe that there is

00:36:39.940 a pathway i do believe

00:36:41.900 that there are there

00:36:42.900 are positive things that

00:36:44.620 are happening we're

00:36:45.420 going to talk to the

00:36:46.080 guys in indiana today

00:36:47.320 that that are making a

00:36:49.560 difference and it's it's

00:36:51.060 not that they're doing

00:36:52.700 something uh that is so

00:36:55.280 groundbreaking although

00:36:56.480 it is it's that this

00:36:58.740 feeling that they have

00:37:00.800 and are now expressing is

00:37:02.820 happening all over the

00:37:04.020 country and it's a very

00:37:05.840 positive sign and we'll

00:37:08.020 get into that uh coming

00:37:09.300 up in just a second also

00:37:10.680 we're going to go through

00:37:11.580 the crisis of

00:37:12.380 responsibility an

00:37:14.000 incredible book that i

00:37:15.600 have read that everyone

00:37:16.620 should read the crisis of

00:37:17.820 responsibility we talk to

00:37:19.300 the author next

00:37:20.340 glenn back mercury

00:37:25.740 love courage truth glenn back

00:37:37.660 you want to know how to blow a

00:37:39.080 progressive's mind and

00:37:40.340 argument it's actually pretty

00:37:42.360 easy it takes about 100 years

00:37:43.800 but it's a little easy all you

00:37:45.280 do is you let them all just play

00:37:47.420 out you just let all of their

00:37:49.080 solutions play out because they

00:37:52.320 always break down in the end

00:37:54.640 and once you get there then

00:37:57.280 you're just like oh wow this

00:37:58.360 really doesn't work i mean it'd

00:38:00.160 be better if we just

00:38:01.200 intellectually thought things

00:38:02.920 through case in point gender

00:38:05.760 we might do things because it

00:38:08.400 makes people feel good but in the

00:38:10.920 along the way we start denying

00:38:13.340 truths that just start to disrupt

00:38:16.040 absolutely everything and in the

00:38:17.780 end you're just denying science

00:38:19.280 let me give you let me give you

00:38:20.600 this case champions of social

00:38:22.780 justice want you to believe that

00:38:24.580 gender is fluid because it makes

00:38:26.720 people feel better once the chains

00:38:29.680 of gender science were lifted the

00:38:32.360 movement went well off off off the

00:38:35.560 chain by february 2014th there were

00:38:39.060 58 genders listed four months later

00:38:42.180 there were 71 genders today there

00:38:45.780 are over 112 listed genders i'd like

00:38:50.380 to make it 114 but i can't because

00:38:57.600 they won't allow male and female to

00:39:01.240 actually be on the list of genders

00:39:03.780 okay let's talk science for a second

00:39:08.820 there are only two genders science

00:39:11.720 teaches that x and y two genders

00:39:14.100 everything else we do that's fine you

00:39:17.080 make it make you feel good we can call

00:39:19.280 each other whatever you want to call

00:39:20.760 but we cannot deny science no no no

00:39:25.300 fight for the cause okay let's go over

00:39:29.000 across the pond let's go to london here

00:39:30.840 for a second leave it to the fabian

00:39:32.860 society to unwittingly make the

00:39:35.780 conservative case for guns without

00:39:38.180 meaning to because things have broken

00:39:40.240 down in the uk they've already banned

00:39:43.100 guns so now they're starting a new

00:39:45.700 initiative comprehensive knife control

00:39:50.420 this is fantastic the the mayor of

00:39:56.020 london sadiq khan he's got a problem

00:39:58.560 apparently it comes as a shock to

00:40:01.240 progressives all over the world but

00:40:02.640 bad guys and criminals occasionally try

00:40:04.960 to hurt people and if they can't get a

00:40:06.700 gun they'll use something else i know

00:40:08.280 it's a shocker comes from years of

00:40:10.540 intense research that we did we spent

00:40:12.740 millions of dollars had they even shut

00:40:15.080 down one of the turtle tunnels or we

00:40:16.700 thought we were going to have to but

00:40:18.040 the fed just printed the money because

00:40:20.060 you can do that anyway our cousins

00:40:22.640 across the pond thought that they had

00:40:24.580 it all figured out when they banned guns

00:40:26.460 back in the 90s they did it as if neville

00:40:29.460 chamberlain was speaking from the grave

00:40:31.820 peace in our time but if i may i'd like to

00:40:35.720 pump the brakes here just a little bit

00:40:37.240 crime in the uk has now spiraled out of

00:40:40.160 control no guns in the country yet the

00:40:43.220 murder rate in london has now overtaken

00:40:45.900 that of new york city now how can that be

00:40:48.280 well they've got a problem with knife and

00:40:51.440 acid crimes okay you want to ban something

00:40:55.440 you want to put uh some controls on

00:40:57.180 things i think it's acid because i can't

00:40:58.860 think of a good reason anyone's walking

00:41:01.160 around with acid now maybe it's just me i

00:41:04.160 haven't thought it through but and you

00:41:06.640 know what there's also a correlation

00:41:08.400 between acid on the face crimes and

00:41:12.060 i can't think of it right now but we

00:41:17.340 probably shouldn't talk about it anyway

00:41:18.780 so they're now moving to take away

00:41:22.180 knives apparently the tools criminals

00:41:24.940 use don't really matter to them as long

00:41:27.660 as it gets the job done you can

00:41:29.980 practically hear the phone call from the

00:41:32.400 fabian society library to the london

00:41:35.000 mayor mayor's office

00:41:36.000 it's me from fabian society start banning

00:41:41.920 things

00:41:42.420 ah i can ban lawlessness no that won't

00:41:46.180 work uh ban evil no no i don't recommend

00:41:49.140 that

00:41:49.500 oh yeah let's ban cutlery

00:41:53.100 exactly so that's what they did

00:41:56.960 operation specter

00:41:59.960 that's that's the real name of the

00:42:03.280 operation

00:42:03.800 stopping random random citizens and

00:42:07.180 searching them for any kind of tools of

00:42:09.700 death

00:42:10.120 now the primary boogeyman here

00:42:12.320 was knives

00:42:13.640 and the mere fact that the uk has gone

00:42:16.460 from banning guns to kitchen cult cutlery

00:42:18.780 is actually enough for us to laugh and

00:42:20.720 prove our point but

00:42:21.700 the crackdown on inanimate objects

00:42:24.500 didn't stop there they're also

00:42:25.940 confiscating and this is not a joke

00:42:27.920 scissors

00:42:28.860 pliers

00:42:30.020 screwdrivers

00:42:31.700 and hammers

00:42:33.480 pretty much anything that could be used as

00:42:35.840 a weapon

00:42:36.340 what's next you know what

00:42:39.200 they strangled that person to death

00:42:42.100 i want to ban hands

00:42:44.380 congratulations uk

00:42:47.400 you won't stop a single crime with this

00:42:50.500 the only thing you're going to do is

00:42:52.040 impede uh you know

00:42:53.540 uh citizens from actually getting their

00:42:56.120 work done

00:42:56.860 make everybody a criminal

00:42:58.800 you're not going to stop the

00:43:00.560 bloodthirsty civilians

00:43:01.960 uh that are you know

00:43:03.820 uh actually doing crime

00:43:05.580 you're going to get those

00:43:06.740 killers

00:43:07.540 that are just looking to assemble

00:43:09.480 their ikea furniture

00:43:10.800 now eating a steak might be a little

00:43:13.380 difficult as well over in the uk

00:43:15.220 banning the tools of criminals

00:43:17.580 criminals and evil men

00:43:18.820 don't really stop crime

00:43:20.920 but now in the uk they may stop

00:43:22.480 steak

00:43:23.060 so a big shout out

00:43:25.420 and a thank you to the london mayor

00:43:27.360 for opening

00:43:28.080 pandora's box

00:43:29.640 and making a case for the second

00:43:31.100 amendment

00:43:31.460 because now instead of watching clowns

00:43:33.860 on cnn

00:43:34.560 i can watch the town halls

00:43:36.560 on the bbc

00:43:37.760 where they are going to be

00:43:39.360 arguing the evils of their nra

00:43:41.680 you know

00:43:43.740 the national

00:43:45.520 ratchet

00:43:46.340 association

00:43:47.640 it's tuesday april 10th

00:43:56.240 you're listening to the glenbeck program

00:43:58.000 david bonson

00:44:00.040 is a uh is a guy who wrote

00:44:02.260 a book called crisis of responsibility

00:44:04.480 our cultural addiction to blame

00:44:07.700 and how you can cure it

00:44:09.000 and it is

00:44:09.700 really really good

00:44:11.600 uh david is a guy who

00:44:13.640 uh was more of an economist

00:44:15.240 was going to write a book on

00:44:16.740 um the meltdown of 2008

00:44:19.420 uh what was really

00:44:21.120 due to blame if you will

00:44:22.780 on that

00:44:23.300 what we haven't done

00:44:24.500 because we haven't really done

00:44:25.660 anything to fix it

00:44:26.820 we've only made it worse

00:44:27.700 but as he started to get into it

00:44:29.720 he realized that

00:44:31.380 we have a crisis of responsibility

00:44:33.800 and we welcome uh david to the program

00:44:36.420 hi david how are you

00:44:37.300 i'm doing great glenn good to be with you

00:44:39.920 uh this is a great book

00:44:41.580 um really really fascinating

00:44:43.980 uh and and really well written

00:44:46.460 um i i want to kind of get into the

00:44:48.900 to the meat of a lot of it

00:44:51.080 and and just kind of go over

00:44:52.500 some of the the points in your book

00:44:54.360 um first explain the the crisis of responsibility

00:44:58.780 explain the the theory of just that

00:45:01.720 yeah i mean essentially

00:45:03.840 uh in line with how you sort of set it up

00:45:06.980 there was a underlying theme

00:45:09.700 out of the financial crisis

00:45:11.280 and it really has sort of been baked

00:45:13.700 into the american understanding

00:45:15.680 of what took place

00:45:16.860 that there was some great big uh uh

00:45:21.120 infraction that took place

00:45:23.620 and if you're left of center

00:45:25.720 you believe that infraction

00:45:27.380 came out of wall street

00:45:28.960 and if you're right of center

00:45:30.840 you believe that infraction

00:45:32.120 came from government

00:45:34.020 fannie mae freddie mack

00:45:35.680 maybe even federal reserve

00:45:37.420 monetary policy

00:45:38.640 and and there's a certain kind of

00:45:41.260 prima facie truth

00:45:42.660 to to both sides

00:45:44.100 wall street had

00:45:45.480 uh uh its fair share of negligence

00:45:48.880 and and most certainly

00:45:50.320 government housing policy

00:45:51.740 contributed greatly

00:45:53.000 but the problem was that both narratives

00:45:55.740 whether on the right or left

00:45:57.500 were perfectly willing

00:45:59.280 to treat main street

00:46:01.380 as a victim of the crisis

00:46:04.220 and to totally ignore

00:46:06.280 main street's culpability

00:46:08.200 in the crisis

00:46:09.640 and so as i studied it

00:46:11.820 further and further

00:46:12.820 um it became just too easy

00:46:15.580 and too simplistic to say

00:46:17.400 that big greedy bankers

00:46:19.660 were giving money to people

00:46:21.740 and then those people

00:46:23.460 um really wanted to pay it back

00:46:25.880 and just couldn't

00:46:26.940 and the government was

00:46:28.980 was asleep at the wheel

00:46:30.420 and forcing the banks

00:46:31.740 to do this

00:46:32.440 and so forth and so on

00:46:34.180 there was all kinds

00:46:35.220 of policy failure

00:46:36.340 so this is this

00:46:37.780 there was a responsibility crisis

00:46:39.820 so david this is not medicine

00:46:41.800 that most people want to hear

00:46:43.300 um and and and we've talked about it

00:46:46.020 for years when they were saying

00:46:47.920 these were predatory loans

00:46:49.220 well some of them were

00:46:50.480 but a lot of times look

00:46:52.460 i went in you don't need to ask

00:46:54.400 i don't need to show you my proof

00:46:56.200 of even of of even a wage

00:46:59.580 i don't i don't have to prove anything

00:47:01.520 that that was us thinking

00:47:04.060 well this is this is great

00:47:05.840 and we were we were in it

00:47:08.220 it wasn't they weren't necessarily

00:47:09.580 predatory

00:47:10.620 they were they were working

00:47:13.100 almost in some ways

00:47:14.740 with us to create this

00:47:16.880 because we wanted it

00:47:18.360 well and i actually use the term

00:47:21.540 there was something very predatory

00:47:22.860 going on glenn

00:47:23.680 it was predatory borrowing

00:47:24.960 and it's a term i use in the book

00:47:27.660 because the fact of the matter is

00:47:29.760 best case you had people

00:47:32.320 that were willing to take loans

00:47:34.080 irresponsibly

00:47:35.180 that believed they could pay it back

00:47:37.180 hoped they could pay it back

00:47:38.500 um but were being somewhat reckless

00:47:41.100 worst case they were committing

00:47:42.740 full-blown fraud

00:47:43.900 absolutely lying

00:47:45.400 and just assuming that even though

00:47:47.040 their cash flow would not enable

00:47:48.980 them to service the mortgage

00:47:50.220 the property would continue escalating

00:47:52.680 and they would just participate

00:47:53.920 in this little pyramid scheme

00:47:56.080 that became the u.s housing market

00:47:58.020 from 2004 to 2006

00:48:00.520 but then as i as i really delve into

00:48:03.080 in in chapter four of the book

00:48:04.640 this is the part that breaks my heart

00:48:06.400 morally

00:48:06.900 and culturally

00:48:08.440 is the fact of the matter is

00:48:10.300 we had no financial crisis

00:48:11.700 if it weren't for the people

00:48:14.160 that were perfectly able

00:48:15.460 to meet their loan obligations

00:48:17.180 that actually could make their payment

00:48:19.120 yeah maybe their house price

00:48:20.660 had gone down in value

00:48:21.800 and it was unfortunate and so forth

00:48:24.100 but they had the assets

00:48:25.460 they had the income

00:48:26.680 but they were allowed

00:48:28.400 to just walk away from the loans

00:48:30.100 and and this is the area

00:48:32.140 that i think warrants

00:48:33.960 a further cultural and moral

00:48:36.260 conversation

00:48:37.460 is to why in 1991

00:48:40.300 in the savings and loan crisis

00:48:41.860 when 20 percent of americans

00:48:43.920 were upside down in their home

00:48:45.260 did we have less than one percent

00:48:47.820 of a default rate

00:48:49.300 and yet in 2008

00:48:51.020 just 17 years later

00:48:52.500 not only

00:48:53.680 did you see upwards of 20 percent

00:48:56.320 of people walking away

00:48:57.460 from their homes

00:48:58.180 but this is the worst part

00:48:59.880 they could go to the bar

00:49:01.500 and brag about it

00:49:02.800 on friday night

00:49:03.880 that was the part that to me

00:49:05.900 indicated this crisis

00:49:07.480 of responsibility

00:49:08.260 so there is a there's a great

00:49:09.740 deal of difference now

00:49:10.760 one of my favorite

00:49:12.020 um presidential stories

00:49:14.020 i think that very few people know

00:49:15.900 is about uh harry truman

00:49:17.740 who i may disagree with

00:49:19.860 his policies here and there

00:49:21.140 i think was a really decent

00:49:22.780 decent man

00:49:23.680 um in world war ii

00:49:25.660 he comes back from world war ii

00:49:27.220 and he gets a loan

00:49:28.300 to start a business

00:49:29.340 and he he runs a

00:49:30.500 a men's clothing store

00:49:31.880 he and his his partner

00:49:33.060 um they go into business

00:49:34.900 things you know

00:49:36.120 don't go well

00:49:36.880 and he goes bankrupt

00:49:38.480 i think in the mid-20s

00:49:40.800 um it takes him

00:49:42.780 until he's president

00:49:44.220 to pay all those loans back

00:49:46.520 he doesn't just take

00:49:48.060 the bankruptcy

00:49:48.800 he says look

00:49:50.120 it was my fault

00:49:51.280 that we we didn't make it

00:49:53.100 i borrowed this money

00:49:55.040 and when i borrowed it

00:49:56.420 i said i would pay it back

00:49:57.800 and so i i'm going to pay it back

00:50:01.000 and he paid every person

00:50:02.820 every lender he paid back

00:50:04.620 even though he had the ability

00:50:06.040 to go bankrupt

00:50:07.000 that's right

00:50:09.020 i think that speaks

00:50:09.820 to a certain character

00:50:11.140 and ethos that existed

00:50:12.860 and in fact the whole

00:50:14.360 great depression by the way

00:50:15.700 if you read some of what

00:50:16.940 amity schlaes has written on it

00:50:18.420 it's fascinating

00:50:19.220 it was a culture in which

00:50:20.840 then you could really argue

00:50:22.000 people had

00:50:23.000 tremendous justification

00:50:24.520 in needing to sort of

00:50:26.340 walk away from some obligation

00:50:27.760 but there was a stigma

00:50:29.660 that said i'm not going to do that

00:50:31.620 i'm not going to be a deadbeat

00:50:32.740 there was struggle

00:50:33.640 but 2008 was not

00:50:35.780 a situation

00:50:37.220 defined by that

00:50:38.880 legitimate struggle

00:50:40.180 it was a self-induced

00:50:42.600 problem

00:50:43.280 from excessive greed

00:50:45.060 and what i argue in the book

00:50:46.160 is that that greed

00:50:46.900 at wall street

00:50:47.600 that we're all very quick

00:50:48.960 to condemn

00:50:49.620 was exactly the same

00:50:51.520 covetousness on main street

00:50:53.120 wall street

00:50:53.960 they just wore

00:50:54.720 you know fancier suits

00:50:56.300 and had more zeros

00:50:57.320 and so forth involved

00:50:58.580 but it was the same

00:50:59.820 um it was cut

00:51:00.860 from the same moral cost

00:51:02.140 right and you're not

00:51:02.900 dismissing the

00:51:04.080 the um

00:51:05.540 the hideousness

00:51:06.620 of wall street

00:51:07.600 and the greed

00:51:08.580 uh there

00:51:09.620 that they went through

00:51:10.500 you're just saying

00:51:11.300 no i'm not

00:51:11.860 i'm not

00:51:12.280 i'm not

00:51:12.620 but i will say this

00:51:13.340 glenn

00:51:13.520 this is very important

00:51:14.280 if we were actually

00:51:15.260 being honest

00:51:15.960 we would be more critical

00:51:17.520 of wall street's incompetence

00:51:19.260 than we would their greed

00:51:20.840 wall street did something

00:51:22.040 horrifically wrong

00:51:23.040 they bet

00:51:24.200 in big numbers

00:51:25.320 that main street

00:51:26.400 would pay their bills

00:51:27.540 that was the tremendous

00:51:29.320 folly of wall street

00:51:30.580 okay

00:51:32.560 all right

00:51:33.420 um

00:51:34.020 you have to continue

00:51:35.100 to listen to this

00:51:36.000 if if you are looking

00:51:37.500 for some answers

00:51:38.280 and some things

00:51:39.060 of how we got here

00:51:40.280 and how we can

00:51:41.340 fix it

00:51:42.000 crisis of responsibility

00:51:43.760 is a must read

00:51:45.180 we'll continue

00:51:45.800 uh with its author

00:51:46.860 in a second

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00:53:12.580 Glenn

00:53:14.720 Beck

00:53:15.720 Mercury

00:53:16.540 Glenn Beck

00:53:25.080 with David Bonson

00:53:27.500 the author of

00:53:28.120 Crisis of Responsibility

00:53:29.560 David French

00:53:30.720 did the foreword for it

00:53:31.640 it's an

00:53:32.000 it's an

00:53:32.600 exceptional book

00:53:33.800 and

00:53:35.360 and David

00:53:36.480 is here to

00:53:37.280 continue the conversation

00:53:38.500 and David

00:53:39.040 before we

00:53:39.620 before we

00:53:40.360 move off

00:53:41.440 of the

00:53:42.100 the personal

00:53:43.560 responsibility

00:53:44.360 one of the

00:53:46.420 reasons why

00:53:47.040 we're having

00:53:47.660 that we

00:53:49.440 we may have

00:53:50.740 real trouble

00:53:51.620 in the future

00:53:52.340 is because

00:53:53.000 all of us

00:53:54.620 or many of us

00:53:56.060 have

00:53:56.600 have decided

00:53:58.180 that we are going

00:53:59.020 to take the

00:53:59.540 easier route

00:54:00.620 for one reason

00:54:02.180 or another

00:54:02.700 and you point

00:54:04.220 out

00:54:04.600 that

00:54:05.580 one of the

00:54:07.020 big signs

00:54:07.800 is

00:54:08.340 the

00:54:09.280 disability

00:54:10.340 insurance

00:54:11.180 that we're

00:54:11.740 now on

00:54:12.160 and the

00:54:12.560 record numbers

00:54:13.920 and how

00:54:14.540 that's just

00:54:14.880 not possible

00:54:15.720 to be real

00:54:16.720 well

00:54:19.060 I mean

00:54:19.520 it would

00:54:20.100 require a

00:54:20.800 certain

00:54:21.220 leap of faith

00:54:22.120 that is

00:54:22.540 somewhat

00:54:22.860 staggering

00:54:23.500 medically

00:54:24.000 because

00:54:24.760 100%

00:54:26.540 of the

00:54:27.540 700%

00:54:29.200 increase

00:54:30.360 in disability

00:54:31.060 claims

00:54:31.760 over the

00:54:32.480 last eight

00:54:32.940 years

00:54:33.340 is limited

00:54:34.760 to the

00:54:35.940 area of

00:54:36.700 back pain

00:54:37.420 and anxiety

00:54:38.460 so

00:54:39.580 somehow

00:54:40.240 you have to

00:54:40.900 believe

00:54:41.260 that there

00:54:41.700 has been

00:54:42.080 absolutely

00:54:42.880 no

00:54:44.160 increase

00:54:45.140 in anything

00:54:45.680 organic

00:54:46.260 or organ

00:54:47.080 related

00:54:47.540 neurological

00:54:48.500 and

00:54:49.420 cardio

00:54:50.260 respiratory

00:54:51.120 all these

00:54:51.780 things

00:54:52.200 and yet

00:54:53.180 it just

00:54:53.760 simply

00:54:54.060 comes down

00:54:54.600 to the

00:54:54.880 two areas

00:54:55.560 where

00:54:55.980 any old

00:54:56.780 doctor

00:54:57.080 can write

00:54:57.500 a note

00:54:57.880 and get

00:54:58.760 somebody

00:54:59.140 out

00:54:59.460 so

00:54:59.840 it's

00:55:00.540 really

00:55:00.800 quite

00:55:01.200 distressing

00:55:01.920 because

00:55:02.800 it's a

00:55:03.280 700%

00:55:05.460 increase

00:55:06.180 yeah

00:55:07.480 well

00:55:07.720 700%

00:55:08.380 in just

00:55:08.780 eight

00:55:09.000 years

00:55:09.420 I mean

00:55:09.780 the numbers

00:55:10.360 going back

00:55:11.660 for a

00:55:13.020 generation

00:55:13.600 are far

00:55:14.500 worse

00:55:14.840 than even

00:55:15.280 that

00:55:15.760 and

00:55:16.680 that's

00:55:18.120 tracking

00:55:18.520 those

00:55:18.920 using

00:55:19.280 social

00:55:19.600 security

00:55:20.400 so

00:55:21.040 what is

00:55:21.300 this

00:55:21.480 telling

00:55:22.400 you

00:55:22.660 David

00:55:22.960 it's

00:55:24.880 telling

00:55:25.180 me

00:55:25.500 that

00:55:25.680 we

00:55:25.880 have

00:55:26.240 right

00:55:26.520 now

00:55:27.040 a

00:55:28.000 segment

00:55:28.400 of

00:55:28.700 the

00:55:28.860 society

00:55:29.460 that

00:55:30.560 is

00:55:31.000 comfortable

00:55:31.680 to

00:55:32.640 live

00:55:33.020 off

00:55:33.240 the

00:55:33.380 public

00:55:33.720 dole

00:55:34.280 not

00:55:35.440 work

00:55:35.900 receive

00:55:36.340 compensation

00:55:36.880 for it

00:55:37.880 and to

00:55:38.860 do so

00:55:39.480 with

00:55:39.760 highly

00:55:40.100 questionable

00:55:40.800 claims

00:55:41.440 about

00:55:41.780 their

00:55:42.020 own

00:55:42.360 physical

00:55:43.220 and

00:55:44.100 mental

00:55:44.420 health

00:55:44.880 and that

00:55:45.620 the reason

00:55:46.140 for that

00:55:46.980 is

00:55:47.560 the

00:55:48.220 underlying

00:55:48.940 breakdown

00:55:49.600 or morality

00:55:50.560 and breakdown

00:55:51.420 of

00:55:52.720 dignity

00:55:53.840 that is

00:55:55.120 embedded

00:55:55.520 in a

00:55:55.960 work ethic

00:55:56.580 the very

00:55:57.040 work ethic

00:55:57.640 that made

00:55:58.080 America

00:55:58.560 the greatest

00:55:59.460 nation

00:55:59.900 on earth

00:56:00.400 so

00:56:02.800 you

00:56:04.040 point out

00:56:04.840 early

00:56:05.060 in the

00:56:05.620 book

00:56:06.460 that we

00:56:07.020 are

00:56:07.220 addicted

00:56:07.680 to

00:56:08.620 blame

00:56:09.680 and until

00:56:10.720 we start

00:56:11.160 taking

00:56:11.680 responsibility

00:56:12.300 for

00:56:13.040 ourselves

00:56:13.600 we're

00:56:14.080 just

00:56:15.020 going to

00:56:15.420 get

00:56:15.680 worse

00:56:16.600 and worse

00:56:17.140 where do

00:56:17.560 we

00:56:17.700 begin

00:56:18.240 well

00:56:20.460 one of

00:56:20.880 the

00:56:21.000 things

00:56:21.260 you know

00:56:21.700 I believe

00:56:22.380 very much

00:56:23.020 as is

00:56:23.680 the case

00:56:24.660 of most

00:56:25.420 really

00:56:25.940 stellar

00:56:26.500 recovery

00:56:27.180 programs

00:56:28.040 for those

00:56:29.120 who have

00:56:29.360 wrestled

00:56:29.720 with

00:56:29.920 personal

00:56:30.360 demons

00:56:30.800 that of

00:56:31.260 course

00:56:31.600 the very

00:56:32.000 first

00:56:32.340 step

00:56:32.680 is to

00:56:33.020 admit

00:56:33.240 you

00:56:33.420 have

00:56:33.760 a

00:56:33.920 problem

00:56:34.400 and

00:56:35.220 that's

00:56:35.460 one of

00:56:35.680 the reasons

00:56:36.080 I suggest

00:56:36.760 in the

00:56:37.120 book

00:56:37.400 that the

00:56:38.260 admitting

00:56:39.080 we're in

00:56:39.920 this position

00:56:40.620 and stopping

00:56:41.440 the blame

00:56:42.120 casting

00:56:42.680 the next

00:56:43.740 time

00:56:44.080 see I'm

00:56:44.500 a conservative

00:56:45.240 limited

00:56:46.580 government

00:56:47.080 advocate

00:56:47.620 but the

00:56:48.400 next time

00:56:48.940 the government

00:56:49.560 does something

00:56:50.280 that really

00:56:50.600 bothers me

00:56:51.280 I want to

00:56:51.940 be able to

00:56:52.260 stop and

00:56:52.760 say okay

00:56:53.260 the government

00:56:53.840 could be

00:56:54.120 wrong here

00:56:54.840 but what

00:56:55.700 else could

00:56:56.300 be going

00:56:56.740 on

00:56:57.040 not just

00:56:57.880 simply

00:56:58.300 rely on

00:56:59.020 the fact

00:56:59.440 that big

00:57:00.440 government

00:57:00.860 is always

00:57:01.820 in forever

00:57:02.480 the permanent

00:57:03.460 recipient of

00:57:05.060 my frustration

00:57:06.120 ire and

00:57:06.920 blame

00:57:07.200 and likewise

00:57:08.560 that person

00:57:09.500 who has been

00:57:10.100 fired from a

00:57:10.940 couple corporate

00:57:11.620 jobs and is

00:57:12.680 personally very

00:57:13.860 vindictive at

00:57:14.920 corporate America

00:57:15.760 to always assume

00:57:17.440 their sort of

00:57:18.100 default psychology

00:57:19.500 is that

00:57:20.720 the man is

00:57:21.860 out to get

00:57:22.460 them so to

00:57:22.980 speak

00:57:23.260 breaking down

00:57:24.740 that mentality

00:57:25.680 in our

00:57:26.080 personal lives

00:57:27.300 but recognizing

00:57:28.620 that we in

00:57:29.160 fact have it

00:57:29.860 and I wish

00:57:30.400 very much

00:57:31.040 as a right

00:57:31.580 wing guy

00:57:32.240 that this was

00:57:33.260 something that

00:57:33.940 the left

00:57:34.380 had a monopoly

00:57:35.180 on

00:57:35.620 right

00:57:36.020 I actually

00:57:36.440 think that

00:57:36.820 they had

00:57:37.220 for many

00:57:37.600 years

00:57:38.100 okay hang

00:57:38.580 on we're

00:57:38.840 gonna we're

00:57:39.200 gonna pick

00:57:39.540 it up there

00:57:40.120 the author

00:57:40.640 of crisis

00:57:41.280 of responsibility

00:57:42.400 this is the

00:58:00.740 Glenn Beck

00:58:01.180 program

00:58:01.540 if you're

00:58:01.860 looking for

00:58:02.420 answers of

00:58:03.260 what the hell

00:58:04.320 happened to my

00:58:04.760 country how did

00:58:05.360 we get here

00:58:05.940 what do I do

00:58:07.840 about it and

00:58:08.560 how do I

00:58:09.600 change my

00:58:10.560 life and my

00:58:11.760 circumstances

00:58:12.360 a must-read

00:58:13.220 book

00:58:13.540 crisis of

00:58:14.460 responsibility

00:58:15.060 came out a

00:58:15.840 few weeks ago

00:58:16.500 our cultural

00:58:17.480 addiction to

00:58:18.120 blame and how

00:58:18.860 you can cure

00:58:19.620 it David

00:58:20.380 Bonson is the

00:58:21.420 author of the

00:58:22.240 book he

00:58:22.520 describes himself

00:58:23.360 as a as a

00:58:25.140 national review

00:58:25.840 kind of

00:58:26.380 conservative

00:58:26.980 David you

00:58:29.220 you start out

00:58:29.840 with a quote

00:58:30.340 from from

00:58:31.860 Foucault

00:58:32.360 which

00:58:33.200 this is the

00:58:36.900 post-modernism

00:58:38.620 BS

00:58:39.540 radical leftist

00:58:41.080 that really

00:58:42.300 caused I

00:58:43.580 think a lot

00:58:44.420 of the

00:58:44.880 arrogance and

00:58:46.000 elitism that

00:58:46.720 we have in

00:58:47.280 academia now

00:58:48.160 but you

00:58:49.080 follow it

00:58:49.800 with a

00:58:50.920 quote from

00:58:51.520 Gustav

00:58:52.040 Le Bon

00:58:52.460 who was a

00:58:54.260 critic of

00:58:54.800 socialism and

00:58:56.440 throughout the

00:58:57.120 book you kind

00:58:57.980 of it's almost

00:58:58.880 Jeffersonian in the

00:59:00.240 way you do

00:59:00.720 this as he

00:59:01.760 wrote a letter

00:59:02.440 between an

00:59:03.720 argument between

00:59:04.420 his head and

00:59:04.960 his heart you

00:59:06.060 say there's an

00:59:06.700 even-handedness

00:59:07.580 that we're

00:59:07.920 missing and

00:59:08.960 and we we

00:59:10.140 need to

00:59:10.720 really have a

00:59:13.140 balance and

00:59:14.560 hold each side

00:59:15.820 to task

00:59:16.740 that's right I

00:59:19.560 think at the

00:59:20.180 heart of this

00:59:21.020 really intense

00:59:21.880 polarization that

00:59:23.060 we're experiencing

00:59:23.760 in the political

00:59:25.040 culture and and

00:59:26.940 this kind of

00:59:27.900 tribalization that

00:59:30.140 has taken place

00:59:31.100 the the ability

00:59:32.680 to somehow

00:59:33.460 magically interpret

00:59:34.740 literally every

00:59:35.680 single event that

00:59:36.940 happens through

00:59:38.160 some sort of

00:59:38.920 partisan lens is

00:59:41.520 a byproduct of

00:59:42.420 the crisis of

00:59:43.100 responsibility that

00:59:44.580 we have so

00:59:45.420 removed ourselves

00:59:46.720 from family

00:59:49.040 church community

00:59:50.800 that that the

00:59:52.960 the mediating

00:59:54.120 institutions of

00:59:55.180 society that are

00:59:56.120 so important for

00:59:57.220 good civic life

00:59:58.400 have been

00:59:59.360 discarded and it's

01:00:00.640 forced us into

01:00:01.400 this kind of

01:00:02.280 obsessive and

01:00:04.560 polarized manner

01:00:06.280 of living I

01:00:07.180 feel like I

01:00:08.740 feel like we've

01:00:09.520 made our

01:00:10.280 our religion

01:00:11.360 our political

01:00:12.140 party and

01:00:14.420 and that's

01:00:14.880 always the end

01:00:15.760 run of

01:00:16.260 statism and

01:00:17.180 this is the

01:00:17.740 thing I want to

01:00:18.400 point out Glenn

01:00:18.980 because I really

01:00:19.720 believe a target

01:00:21.760 of the audience

01:00:22.920 I had with the

01:00:23.540 book are those

01:00:24.760 who are right

01:00:25.260 now very

01:00:25.920 susceptible to

01:00:26.880 the present

01:00:27.500 populist

01:00:28.380 uprising which I

01:00:29.840 acknowledge is

01:00:31.220 responding to

01:00:32.260 things that

01:00:32.900 deserve to be

01:00:33.820 responded to

01:00:34.700 the elites

01:00:35.900 the the big

01:00:36.760 institutionalist

01:00:37.960 have failed

01:00:39.240 and yet my

01:00:40.920 fear is that

01:00:42.380 by us going

01:00:43.180 forward and

01:00:43.920 saying things

01:00:44.680 like if we

01:00:45.680 just renegotiate

01:00:46.880 a trade deal

01:00:47.660 with China

01:00:48.140 all these jobs

01:00:49.560 are coming back

01:00:50.420 to Ohio

01:00:51.120 instead of

01:00:52.300 acknowledging

01:00:52.940 that there's

01:00:53.860 actually been a

01:00:54.700 total paradigm

01:00:55.440 shift in the

01:00:56.200 culture not just

01:00:57.280 economically and

01:00:58.160 technologically but

01:00:59.580 culturally and

01:01:00.360 morally that what

01:01:01.580 we're doing is

01:01:02.380 setting the table

01:01:03.220 for more

01:01:04.160 statism later

01:01:05.260 because when

01:01:06.580 this populist

01:01:07.480 uprising inevitably

01:01:08.540 fails we're

01:01:09.780 not going to

01:01:10.340 turn to greater

01:01:11.440 individual

01:01:12.000 responsibility but

01:01:13.720 rather to some

01:01:14.760 sort of messiah

01:01:15.740 to come bail us

01:01:17.180 out and that

01:01:17.880 messiah has always

01:01:19.360 been the nanny

01:01:20.120 state and that's

01:01:21.280 what I'm trying to

01:01:21.880 avoid so we

01:01:22.680 have and it

01:01:25.720 rings all the way

01:01:27.340 through this book

01:01:28.180 and it is

01:01:28.780 really I think

01:01:31.400 an important

01:01:32.120 book and

01:01:34.240 and study that

01:01:35.060 you have done

01:01:35.600 but I look at

01:01:38.760 things like for

01:01:39.340 instance you take

01:01:40.480 on higher

01:01:41.720 education and

01:01:42.420 you say you

01:01:43.080 know it's not

01:01:44.260 the either or

01:01:45.100 what's wrong

01:01:46.760 with universities

01:01:47.580 it's not the

01:01:48.360 rising student

01:01:49.240 debt it's not

01:01:50.420 the spread of

01:01:51.160 relativism it's

01:01:52.500 both debt and

01:01:54.100 indoctrination

01:01:54.980 economic and

01:01:56.680 ideological and

01:01:57.760 so you say

01:01:58.520 blow the whole

01:01:59.640 business model

01:02:00.480 down you know

01:02:01.040 just blow it

01:02:01.540 up and and

01:02:04.200 and start anew

01:02:05.700 do I have that

01:02:06.440 right and

01:02:07.440 oh absolutely

01:02:08.800 there's no way

01:02:09.980 this can stop as

01:02:11.300 long as they have

01:02:12.120 access to the

01:02:12.840 funds that they

01:02:13.560 have parents keep

01:02:15.020 demanding the

01:02:15.760 loans the

01:02:17.260 government keeps

01:02:17.900 giving the loans

01:02:18.800 the universities

01:02:19.700 keep taking them

01:02:20.780 giving a subsidy

01:02:22.000 into the price so

01:02:22.980 you have never

01:02:23.660 ending tuition

01:02:25.240 inflation with

01:02:26.640 absolutely no

01:02:27.300 accountability from

01:02:28.440 donors parents or

01:02:29.640 students as to

01:02:30.760 the product being

01:02:31.560 presented so one

01:02:32.700 of the biggest

01:02:33.120 debacles I've ever

01:02:34.300 seen so here is

01:02:35.500 the here is the

01:02:36.660 the problem that I

01:02:38.200 would like you to

01:02:38.760 help me noodle

01:02:39.500 through people will

01:02:43.000 say and we see it

01:02:44.300 in politics all the

01:02:45.220 time well I can't

01:02:46.540 not send my kid to

01:02:47.720 college because

01:02:48.420 that's the system

01:02:49.680 and so it just

01:02:51.440 continues to cycle

01:02:53.140 through this I I

01:02:54.380 well I've got I've

01:02:55.400 only got two

01:02:55.860 choices it's a

01:02:56.940 binary choice I

01:02:58.260 vote for the donkey

01:02:59.140 or the elephant and

01:03:00.500 so the system is

01:03:02.280 built to keep you

01:03:04.080 in in that how do

01:03:05.960 you convince enough

01:03:06.680 people to break that

01:03:08.100 model I'm like most

01:03:10.980 things to bottom up

01:03:12.320 one family at a time

01:03:13.920 and I'm not

01:03:14.600 suggesting and I

01:03:15.600 actually go to great

01:03:16.320 lengths to say this

01:03:17.300 that people no longer

01:03:18.720 go to college what I'm

01:03:20.560 saying is have a

01:03:21.920 thoughtful intentional

01:03:23.760 conversation the

01:03:25.880 student the the

01:03:27.300 the parents that

01:03:28.800 maybe teachers are

01:03:29.740 involved what are the

01:03:30.880 goals what are you

01:03:31.580 trying to accomplish

01:03:32.460 what is it you're

01:03:33.440 looking to do with

01:03:34.300 your life for one

01:03:35.740 thing the lack of that

01:03:36.740 conversation is one

01:03:38.240 of the great reasons I

01:03:39.320 think we have this

01:03:40.380 systemic extended

01:03:41.960 adolescence where our

01:03:43.580 whole society has

01:03:44.540 decided it's okay for

01:03:46.380 people to be kids all

01:03:47.840 the way through their

01:03:48.420 20s I have no

01:03:50.660 problem with people

01:03:51.700 starting these

01:03:52.380 conversations again

01:03:54.160 with a lot of

01:03:54.880 open-endedness and

01:03:55.980 vulnerability around

01:03:57.040 them but looking at

01:03:58.260 what their goals may

01:03:59.120 be now maybe they

01:04:00.200 want to go to college

01:04:01.080 to meet a spouse

01:04:01.920 maybe they need

01:04:03.000 specialized vocational

01:04:04.220 training there's all

01:04:05.760 kinds of reasons to

01:04:06.940 go but don't go

01:04:08.660 because a if you're a

01:04:10.620 parent you want to

01:04:11.680 be able to brag to

01:04:12.680 your friends where

01:04:13.720 your kid went to

01:04:14.520 school I think that

01:04:15.580 it's one of the

01:04:16.500 biggest drivers of

01:04:17.460 this whole mess

01:04:18.120 frankly but also

01:04:20.080 having the student

01:04:22.220 involved in what it

01:04:23.220 is they want out of

01:04:23.920 their life and how

01:04:25.320 is college going to

01:04:26.200 advance it and so I

01:04:27.880 think that it will

01:04:28.620 not take place

01:04:29.680 overnight but right

01:04:31.080 now what we're

01:04:31.620 seeing is the it's

01:04:33.360 always economic

01:04:34.160 right the economics

01:04:35.700 are forcing a

01:04:37.300 cultural moment

01:04:38.480 David there's a lot

01:04:39.840 of people who are

01:04:41.520 who I think fought

01:04:44.520 for 10 15 20

01:04:46.680 years and have been

01:04:48.460 fighting and fighting

01:04:49.200 and fighting to

01:04:49.860 change this and to

01:04:51.360 and to do the right

01:04:52.720 thing and they feel I

01:04:54.780 think at this point

01:04:55.960 nobody's listening

01:04:57.140 nobody's changing

01:04:58.420 anything nothing

01:04:59.800 happens I just keep

01:05:01.020 getting on the short

01:05:02.020 end of the stick and

01:05:03.360 I can't afford to live

01:05:05.360 this way anymore I

01:05:07.380 have to have somebody

01:05:09.380 who is listening to me

01:05:11.040 that is going to plow

01:05:11.880 the way because I've

01:05:12.820 tried I think there's a

01:05:14.380 lot of people who

01:05:15.460 have really tried for

01:05:16.680 a long time and they

01:05:18.020 feel like they're just

01:05:19.220 being mowed over in

01:05:22.000 terms of the higher

01:05:22.900 education conversation

01:05:23.860 the whole thing all of

01:05:25.560 it higher education the

01:05:27.000 jobs income they see

01:05:29.280 the direction of the

01:05:30.240 country they know but

01:05:31.440 they feel like what am I

01:05:32.400 going to do I've tried

01:05:33.920 I've tried to do

01:05:34.680 everything right and I

01:05:36.540 just keep getting

01:05:37.240 screwed and and that

01:05:39.300 frustration is perfectly

01:05:41.300 understandable and

01:05:42.480 rational and probably

01:05:44.180 in most cases accurate

01:05:45.560 and yet like any other

01:05:47.700 frustration we face as

01:05:49.940 soon as we're able to

01:05:50.880 sort of calm the

01:05:51.700 emotions settle down and

01:05:53.720 think through it the

01:05:55.240 only thing we can do is

01:05:56.600 keep fighting we cannot

01:05:58.040 give up the free and

01:05:59.960 virtuous society that I

01:06:01.600 am advocating that I

01:06:03.360 want as my telos out of

01:06:05.760 this book and out of my

01:06:06.780 life efforts can only come

01:06:09.120 about by an army of

01:06:10.520 people from the bottom

01:06:11.480 up who believe in living

01:06:13.080 morally responsible

01:06:14.600 lives the frustrations

01:06:16.580 that we feel can never

01:06:18.920 become an abdication of

01:06:21.020 our own responsibility

01:06:22.100 you know David in in the

01:06:24.820 Wharton School of

01:06:25.460 Business I don't believe

01:06:26.340 they teach moral

01:06:27.220 sentiments they only

01:06:29.640 teach wealth of nations

01:06:31.600 if they still even teach

01:06:32.860 that and I think your

01:06:34.940 book is a is really a new

01:06:37.640 kind of moral sentiments

01:06:38.860 that you know if if the

01:06:41.640 people don't change you

01:06:44.900 know the let me phrase

01:06:46.500 it what we're going

01:06:48.180 through right now is

01:06:50.020 really a reflection of

01:06:51.520 what we have allowed

01:06:52.740 ourselves to accept or

01:06:54.480 become over a very long

01:06:56.040 period of time and so we

01:06:57.780 have to we have to

01:06:59.180 fundamentally change and

01:07:00.720 the system will change

01:07:01.780 that's right it starts with

01:07:04.540 us and and then there's no

01:07:06.560 limit to what we can do it

01:07:07.740 becomes infectious in our

01:07:09.060 families infectious in our

01:07:10.940 communities and and a lot

01:07:12.960 of the things I describe or

01:07:14.320 prescribe in chapter 11

01:07:16.660 the individual things that I

01:07:18.700 am suggesting people do they

01:07:20.880 they that contagious piece

01:07:22.700 takes over and not only

01:07:24.940 does it bring greater

01:07:25.900 satisfaction and joy in our

01:07:27.560 own lives but I think serves

01:07:29.580 as an example for how

01:07:31.440 communities need to function

01:07:32.780 I have an incredible

01:07:34.240 optimism even in the face

01:07:36.420 of everything we're dealing

01:07:37.360 with right now even in this

01:07:38.720 polarized political age and in

01:07:40.900 this dysfunctional and

01:07:43.000 sometimes morally reprobate

01:07:44.540 culture I have a tremendous

01:07:46.220 amount of optimism that what

01:07:47.700 made us great can make us

01:07:49.540 great again if we stop the

01:07:51.960 blame casting and look

01:07:53.040 forward so let me ask you

01:07:54.520 this David because I I feel the

01:07:56.080 same thing the more I look at

01:07:57.360 the opportunities that are on

01:07:58.780 the horizon and not and stop

01:08:01.080 looking at the past recognize

01:08:03.400 the past recognize the

01:08:05.200 mistakes try to correct those

01:08:07.320 mistakes and then see the

01:08:08.680 opportunities that are on the

01:08:09.840 horizon I am really really

01:08:12.480 optimistic more optimistic than

01:08:14.340 I've been in probably 10 or 15

01:08:16.660 years with that being said we

01:08:20.700 are I mean good heavens we are

01:08:24.760 facing a bucket load of stuff

01:08:27.260 that only the worst times in the

01:08:29.340 world's history was it this bad

01:08:32.180 around the world or had the

01:08:33.220 seeds of being this bad around

01:08:35.720 the world where do you see us in

01:08:37.900 20 years you know it's very

01:08:41.360 difficult because most project

01:08:44.120 whatever I predict right now

01:08:45.300 about 20 years has a 0% chance of

01:08:47.920 playing out it's one thing I've

01:08:49.640 learned as an economist Glenn is

01:08:51.380 it's humility and and and these

01:08:53.720 types of predictions are amazing and

01:08:55.680 also as one who believes in the

01:08:57.020 providence of God that he has a way

01:08:59.480 of surprising us would I say things

01:09:02.460 will be significantly better in 20

01:09:04.700 years I can't say that but I can't

01:09:07.400 say this there are unsustainable

01:09:09.620 things taking place we talked about

01:09:11.760 the higher education business model

01:09:13.620 we talked about the lack of school

01:09:15.540 choice opportunity for underprivileged

01:09:18.100 and and often minority families those

01:09:20.620 things are unsustainable there will be

01:09:23.080 change there there will be improvement

01:09:26.000 for one the one thing I'll say for

01:09:28.660 all the good and the bad that can be

01:09:30.200 set around the Donald Trump

01:09:31.380 phenomena nobody could have

01:09:33.060 predicted it nobody saw it coming and

01:09:35.840 I believe that what will take place in

01:09:37.300 20 years just as the fall of communism

01:09:40.940 in the early 90s came out of

01:09:43.640 nowhere whatever takes place the next

01:09:45.800 20 years is likely to shock us all for

01:09:48.000 good and for bad but I want us those

01:09:51.300 who are sort of the remnant who believe

01:09:53.620 in the values of our country believe

01:09:55.940 in faith and family but believe in

01:09:58.420 taking initiative over our own lives I

01:10:01.060 think that one of the things Glenn that

01:10:03.040 is most discouraging is that the

01:10:05.100 backbone of America that kind of

01:10:07.260 nostalgic image we get of these blue

01:10:11.380 collar families that just want to you

01:10:13.800 know be there with each other work hard

01:10:16.160 and come home and worship and and live

01:10:18.620 together I fear that that is what's

01:10:21.000 falling apart that that efforts ethos is

01:10:24.700 disintegrating what I what I desperately

01:10:27.480 hope we will see over the next 20 years

01:10:29.400 is individuals not only taking

01:10:31.480 responsibility for their own economic

01:10:33.040 well-being but taking responsibility for

01:10:36.140 their individual decisions building

01:10:38.400 strong families and then the one piece

01:10:41.580 that I think is so important I wrote

01:10:42.900 about near the end of the book getting

01:10:44.680 their joy out of their production not

01:10:48.180 their consumption seeing themselves as

01:10:51.260 image bearers of God that are here to

01:10:53.300 produce on planet earth and not merely be a

01:10:57.060 consumer I believe that that alone can

01:11:00.040 change the world

01:11:00.840 David thank you so much God bless

01:11:05.040 the book is crisis of responsibility our

01:11:15.680 cultural addiction to blame and how you

01:11:17.300 can cure it by David Bonson you can get

01:11:19.660 that at bookstores everywhere as well as

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01:12:45.020 Glenn Beck Mercury

01:12:49.120 Glenn Beck

01:12:58.040 There's still so much to take care of today

01:13:00.680 this craziness in Washington

01:13:03.700 is just

01:13:06.060 I don't even know where to begin on that

01:13:10.120 because I don't know what the truth is

01:13:12.380 I don't know if anybody is actually

01:13:14.300 looking for the truth anymore

01:13:16.340 does it even matter

01:13:17.980 see this is what

01:13:21.100 this is why when you know Clinton was in

01:13:23.540 office we were like yeah yeah no you

01:13:25.160 you have to have character

01:13:26.380 you have to have character

01:13:28.240 and we have dismissed character in

01:13:30.620 almost every aspect of

01:13:33.280 of life in Washington DC

01:13:35.720 and yet we still sort of kind of demand it

01:13:38.920 when we need it

01:13:40.180 but I don't trust anybody in Congress

01:13:44.060 I'm not sure I trust anybody in the higher levels of the FBI

01:13:47.580 or or do I trust the the court system

01:13:51.840 do I trust the administration

01:13:54.500 do I trust the press

01:13:55.640 I don't trust anybody

01:13:56.740 so how are we going to get to know the truth

01:13:59.300 how do we know

01:14:01.140 that this is a witch hunt

01:14:05.220 or it's not a witch hunt

01:14:07.260 well the safest thing is to wait and see what the information is

01:14:13.060 I know

01:14:13.540 we can get out ahead of ourselves

01:14:14.940 because this is a big deal

01:14:16.080 I mean we have to step back and say how bananas this situation is

01:14:19.180 oh this is freaking

01:14:19.880 this is if they don't have

01:14:21.820 something massive here

01:14:23.420 yeah

01:14:23.660 this is a banana republic

01:14:25.680 because if you believe

01:14:26.820 Trump

01:14:27.960 if you like Trump

01:14:28.680 you might think that it's because

01:14:29.880 they're just going after him more than ever before

01:14:31.740 and if you don't like him

01:14:32.600 you might think that Trump is more corrupt

01:14:33.780 than any any president before

01:14:35.100 whatever whatever side of that you fall on

01:14:36.960 it doesn't matter

01:14:37.440 this is a bonkers situation

01:14:39.340 the FBI is raiding the personal attorney

01:14:42.200 of the president of the United States

01:14:43.360 and this is unbelievable

01:14:44.920 it really is

01:14:46.060 Glenn Beck

01:14:51.900 Mercury

01:14:53.060 Love

01:14:59.420 Courage

01:15:00.640 Truth

01:15:02.360 Glenn Beck

01:15:05.080 You know the stories will tell you that it was federal agents

01:15:07.360 that led a sweeping campaign to finally shut down Backpage

01:15:10.880 but that's actually not true

01:15:12.180 it was a group of conservatives

01:15:14.080 and a group of libertarians

01:15:16.740 and a group of progressives

01:15:19.380 and people that I don't have anything in common with

01:15:22.660 that all got together and said

01:15:24.300 this is evil and has got to be stopped

01:15:27.520 Backpage

01:15:28.860 it's an online prostitution empire

01:15:31.620 but now feminists are outraged

01:15:34.660 in particular

01:15:35.660 the Women's March

01:15:37.000 now you'd think that an organization that claims to be interested in women's rights

01:15:41.040 would celebrate the recent lawsuit against Backpage

01:15:44.180 the online brothel

01:15:46.540 which has resulted in the oppression of countless sex workers

01:15:51.760 and rewarded countless sex traffickers

01:15:55.100 and was

01:15:56.360 was trafficking

01:15:57.620 in children

01:15:59.360 but then again

01:16:01.960 the Women's March is being led by Linda Sarsour

01:16:04.760 whose vision of feminism

01:16:06.140 allows female

01:16:07.060 genital mutilation

01:16:09.160 and mandated burkas

01:16:11.800 so I don't know what this

01:16:13.140 this organization really stands for

01:16:15.340 first

01:16:16.400 the

01:16:16.960 the assistant U.S. attorney

01:16:19.340 Elizabeth Strange

01:16:20.320 described internal documents and emails from Backpage

01:16:23.800 as quote

01:16:24.460 shocking in their callousness

01:16:26.680 she added

01:16:27.360 Backpage has earned hundreds of millions of dollars

01:16:30.640 from facilitating prostitution

01:16:32.380 and sex trafficking

01:16:34.060 placing profits over the well-being and safety

01:16:37.260 of the many thousands of women and children

01:16:40.180 who are victimized by its practices

01:16:42.560 end quote

01:16:43.280 now there

01:16:44.520 there was almost universal applause

01:16:46.860 for shutting down Backpage

01:16:48.860 it isn't really a partisan issue at all

01:16:52.120 most people and most policymakers agree that online sex trafficking is bad

01:16:57.400 but it is objectively illegal

01:17:00.080 when you are knowingly trafficking in children

01:17:05.240 there is no use offering objective realities to the

01:17:09.600 to the brand of the fourth wave feminism

01:17:12.460 practiced by the Women's March however

01:17:14.420 the Women's March just tweeted

01:17:16.320 quote

01:17:16.700 the shutting down of

01:17:18.560 hashtag Backpage

01:17:19.900 is an absolute crisis for sex workers

01:17:22.320 who rely on the site

01:17:23.820 to safely get in touch with clients

01:17:26.140 sex workers rights

01:17:27.780 are women's rights

01:17:28.940 end quote

01:17:29.500 in the coming days

01:17:31.160 the next tweet

01:17:31.820 we'll be sharing more about sex workers rights

01:17:34.240 to uplift this critical issue

01:17:35.860 we're all still learning

01:17:37.520 and as always

01:17:38.680 we have to listen to the voices

01:17:40.100 of those most impacted

01:17:41.940 hashtag

01:17:42.980 sex work is work

01:17:44.480 the hashtag alone

01:17:46.560 sex work is work

01:17:47.800 makes no sense at all

01:17:49.960 how about

01:17:50.980 sex work is illegal

01:17:52.340 or

01:17:52.640 sex work is dangerous

01:17:54.120 sex work is destructive

01:17:55.840 hashtag

01:17:56.420 sex work is

01:17:57.460 harmful

01:17:58.280 and demeaning

01:17:59.300 how about

01:18:00.200 sex work

01:18:01.320 I'm sorry

01:18:02.360 hashtag

01:18:03.560 sex work

01:18:04.740 hurts

01:18:05.480 children

01:18:06.520 most sex work

01:18:09.900 sex workers

01:18:10.620 are confined

01:18:11.500 to a life

01:18:12.240 of addiction

01:18:13.040 desperation

01:18:14.080 control

01:18:15.060 and manipulation

01:18:16.180 what world

01:18:18.180 is the Women's March

01:18:19.500 living in

01:18:20.220 they rally around

01:18:21.940 the

01:18:22.220 me too movement

01:18:23.600 they don't understand

01:18:25.340 that prostitution

01:18:26.280 sex trafficking

01:18:27.120 and sex work

01:18:28.020 are aggressive forms

01:18:29.660 of sexual assault

01:18:31.120 even if the Women's March

01:18:32.760 want to turn sex work

01:18:34.020 into a powerful women

01:18:35.100 scenario

01:18:35.660 it has been proven

01:18:36.980 that a lot of the

01:18:37.720 powerful women

01:18:38.620 on Backpage

01:18:39.540 were being prostituted

01:18:40.940 against their will

01:18:42.760 in fact a lot of the

01:18:44.720 powerful women

01:18:45.640 weren't women at all

01:18:46.580 they were underage kids

01:18:48.160 this

01:18:51.260 latest

01:18:52.580 iteration of feminism

01:18:54.360 needs to reassess

01:18:56.480 what's important

01:18:57.260 they've jumped the shark

01:18:59.360 a long

01:19:00.020 long time ago

01:19:01.280 at times

01:19:03.620 it feels like

01:19:04.260 coordinated

01:19:04.780 contrarianism

01:19:06.320 they're just

01:19:07.120 opposed to

01:19:07.940 whatever else

01:19:08.640 anybody else

01:19:09.400 is for

01:19:10.000 and we're going to

01:19:11.560 decide to hate

01:19:12.220 everything that is

01:19:12.860 white

01:19:13.120 everything that is

01:19:13.820 male

01:19:14.100 everything that is

01:19:14.740 capitalism

01:19:15.240 everything that is

01:19:15.980 conservative

01:19:16.460 doesn't matter

01:19:17.340 if it's a good idea

01:19:17.920 or a bad idea

01:19:18.600 it falls into

01:19:19.980 that box

01:19:20.680 why else

01:19:22.660 would you support

01:19:23.860 sex work

01:19:25.400 and

01:19:26.340 the Islamic

01:19:28.180 understanding

01:19:29.320 of burqas

01:19:30.420 equally

01:19:31.380 or at all

01:19:34.660 at least

01:19:37.700 can you come up

01:19:38.220 with a narrative

01:19:38.740 that makes

01:19:39.380 the slightest

01:19:40.280 bit of sense

01:19:41.360 it's Tuesday

01:19:48.340 April 10th

01:19:49.440 you're listening

01:19:50.160 to the Glenn Beck

01:19:50.820 program

01:19:51.260 so we've been

01:19:51.980 focusing on a

01:19:53.120 lot of stuff

01:19:53.960 today and we're

01:19:54.460 going to get back

01:19:55.320 to the president's

01:19:56.240 attorney and what

01:19:57.820 all of that means

01:19:58.860 and what exactly

01:19:59.700 happened in just

01:20:01.260 a second but I

01:20:01.780 wanted to stop

01:20:02.380 and share with you

01:20:03.760 some good news

01:20:04.360 yesterday I told

01:20:05.700 you about two guys

01:20:06.420 Mike Warren and

01:20:07.100 Chris Lang they

01:20:07.980 they created

01:20:08.660 something called

01:20:09.160 open source roads

01:20:10.500 in Indiana

01:20:11.380 it's a grassroots

01:20:12.780 organization that

01:20:14.420 decided enough is

01:20:15.680 enough our roads

01:20:17.180 are horrible and

01:20:18.640 we have to fix

01:20:19.640 them and the

01:20:20.940 state and the

01:20:21.360 city said well

01:20:21.900 I'll take about

01:20:22.520 seven hundred and

01:20:23.540 some million

01:20:24.280 dollars to fix

01:20:25.180 them all and so

01:20:25.840 these guys just

01:20:27.060 got together I

01:20:27.920 mean that Chris

01:20:29.260 is a libertarian

01:20:30.200 activist and he

01:20:32.660 was doing you

01:20:33.400 know government

01:20:34.020 outreach he was

01:20:35.000 doing journalism

01:20:36.120 yada yada yada

01:20:37.440 and he decided you

01:20:38.480 know what we're

01:20:39.700 just going to get

01:20:40.100 some asphalt and

01:20:41.000 some friends and

01:20:41.660 we're just going to

01:20:42.080 fix it ourself and

01:20:43.740 so far it's going

01:20:45.300 well we have Chris

01:20:48.340 Lang on the phone

01:20:49.240 with us now hi

01:20:49.820 Chris how are you

01:20:50.740 pretty good Glenn

01:20:52.360 how about yourself

01:20:52.900 very good

01:20:53.800 congratulations on

01:20:55.020 this and I was

01:20:56.020 you give me hope

01:20:57.440 you and Mike

01:20:59.040 give me hope and

01:20:59.900 all the guys that

01:21:00.420 are working with

01:21:00.980 you thank you

01:21:02.860 yeah we get that

01:21:03.620 a lot and it's

01:21:04.820 good to hear that

01:21:05.360 kind of positive

01:21:05.920 feedback really

01:21:06.620 reaffirms what we're

01:21:07.420 doing now I do I

01:21:08.860 do want to say that

01:21:09.700 I do believe the man

01:21:11.400 is going to come and

01:21:12.220 crush you to death

01:21:13.460 for doing this I

01:21:15.380 mean you're a you're

01:21:16.220 an accident or a

01:21:17.600 lawsuit away or

01:21:18.740 just somebody who

01:21:19.500 has a bug up their

01:21:20.980 butt that wants to

01:21:22.680 crush you for for

01:21:23.840 thinking and doing

01:21:25.360 something on your

01:21:26.260 own you realize that

01:21:27.600 right I realize

01:21:30.360 picking like words

01:21:32.000 here very carefully

01:21:32.920 I realize that the

01:21:34.400 city has its own

01:21:36.820 procedure for how

01:21:37.900 they would like the

01:21:38.620 road work to be

01:21:39.340 done and while they

01:21:42.380 might argue about

01:21:43.700 specific materials used

01:21:45.700 in the way the

01:21:46.240 labor is performed

01:21:47.040 I know I understand

01:21:48.160 the biggest concern

01:21:49.140 is safety however

01:21:50.880 to me this problem

01:21:52.420 has expanded first

01:21:53.780 of all this whole

01:21:55.180 thing was founded on

01:21:56.360 a lot of people

01:21:57.400 think we're just

01:21:57.960 trying to fill in

01:21:58.880 the potholes here

01:21:59.840 and the problem is

01:22:01.940 bigger than that

01:22:02.560 because the pothole

01:22:03.260 isn't just a pothole

01:22:04.300 these are failures

01:22:06.040 that our city has

01:22:07.680 allowed to continue

01:22:09.080 for years by moving

01:22:11.560 the funds to places

01:22:12.660 where they shouldn't

01:22:13.200 be just not spending

01:22:14.620 funds specifically

01:22:15.680 allocated for these

01:22:17.140 repairs in general

01:22:18.080 and the issue has

01:22:21.280 become safety in the

01:22:22.960 universal sense

01:22:24.080 when you drive to

01:22:25.120 Indianapolis it's

01:22:26.060 almost like everyone's

01:22:27.200 driving through a

01:22:27.820 mapped out minefield

01:22:29.000 you're watching the

01:22:30.220 road 10 feet in front

01:22:31.360 of you you can't even

01:22:32.100 look up at the cars

01:22:33.040 around you because you

01:22:34.520 don't feel safe unless

01:22:35.700 you're swerving

01:22:36.460 vehemently and sometimes

01:22:37.940 lane killing potholes

01:22:39.500 so to us if the city is

01:22:43.700 going to come down on

01:22:44.600 us we are we are

01:22:46.320 understanding that might

01:22:47.480 be an issue but we are

01:22:49.600 willing to contend that

01:22:50.780 the safety of the city is

01:22:52.440 already at risk and what

01:22:53.880 we're doing is necessary

01:22:55.360 not just not just some you

01:22:58.580 know kids filling in

01:22:59.460 potholes and the whole

01:23:00.680 point to this process the

01:23:02.020 whole point to this

01:23:02.720 activism was to draw

01:23:04.160 attention to that specific

01:23:05.800 fact so if the city wants

01:23:07.100 to give us more attention

01:23:08.240 by trying to stop us

01:23:09.740 from fixing their own

01:23:10.680 problem then man that's

01:23:13.200 just going to turn more

01:23:13.980 heads their way you know

01:23:15.000 so Chris I love this

01:23:16.580 because the system has

01:23:17.840 failed and you've decided

01:23:19.100 that you're not going to

01:23:19.940 just sit around and watch

01:23:21.640 it fail and you're not

01:23:22.540 going to you're not going

01:23:23.460 to do something

01:23:23.980 destructive you're not

01:23:24.960 somebody standing on the

01:23:25.780 sidelines going burn the

01:23:26.640 whole thing down you're

01:23:28.600 actually just going to say

01:23:29.580 you're just saying we're

01:23:30.900 going to roll up our

01:23:31.460 sleeves and we're going

01:23:32.080 to we're going to fix it

01:23:33.340 ourselves because we have

01:23:34.400 a right to

01:23:34.920 personally I'm the burden

01:23:38.340 the whole thing down

01:23:39.220 would not be entirely

01:23:40.520 opposed by me but yes I

01:23:42.200 I would say that it is

01:23:44.340 important and that was

01:23:45.820 the whole point was we

01:23:46.920 could argue all day about

01:23:48.540 the legislative process

01:23:49.760 and what needs to go

01:23:50.820 into it and who needs to

01:23:52.460 be taxed what but this

01:23:54.140 was this is part of me

01:23:55.180 and Mike's activism in

01:23:56.340 general you know we

01:23:57.120 discussion can go on for

01:23:59.500 so long but while we're

01:24:00.840 debating people are

01:24:01.820 swerving potholes people

01:24:03.080 are crashing and getting

01:24:04.620 in accidents on our roads

01:24:05.940 we're getting overtime in

01:24:06.980 repair shops you know

01:24:08.340 like other great issues

01:24:09.440 Mike and I have faced

01:24:10.340 like mass incarceration

01:24:11.480 or trying to stand with

01:24:14.020 anti-war and anti-

01:24:15.760 interventionist groups like

01:24:16.900 these are big ideas but

01:24:19.100 this is one of the ones we

01:24:20.320 can directly and

01:24:21.280 bipartisanly do something

01:24:23.220 about and that's pretty

01:24:24.660 much what the whole focus

01:24:25.620 of the project has been

01:24:26.660 so I have a kind of a you

01:24:29.040 know some might say a

01:24:30.160 stupid question some might

01:24:31.240 say you know a highly

01:24:32.260 technical question I was

01:24:34.420 always told there's no

01:24:35.220 such thing as done

01:24:35.960 question well good

01:24:37.000 because I where the

01:24:39.000 hell do you even buy

01:24:40.020 asphalt I don't even

01:24:41.280 know where you would get

01:24:42.240 that that's the thing

01:24:45.160 it is like there's it

01:24:46.180 seems like there's a lot

01:24:47.280 of steps in this process

01:24:48.920 and that's that's

01:24:50.340 inevitably what's the

01:24:51.440 whole permit seeking

01:24:52.600 mindset has created in

01:24:53.820 people everyone thinks

01:24:54.660 there's a million things

01:24:55.600 you'd have to check off

01:24:56.500 before your first pothole

01:24:57.540 we got fifty dollars of

01:25:00.200 fundraiser material we went

01:25:01.420 to Menard and we had

01:25:03.400 an employee to show us

01:25:04.460 where pothole makes

01:25:05.320 clothes and there was

01:25:06.180 big black bags just

01:25:07.580 labeled pothole patch I

01:25:09.160 couldn't even tell you

01:25:09.820 the brand of them it's

01:25:10.740 just so generic and

01:25:11.880 straightforward and

01:25:13.460 everything else we just

01:25:15.080 learned on the internet

01:25:15.880 we just we sweep out the

01:25:17.440 holes which is by the way

01:25:18.600 more than what the city

01:25:19.540 does in fact most of our

01:25:20.760 repair work is more than

01:25:21.900 what the city does and

01:25:23.840 everything else is just

01:25:25.380 our own personal

01:25:25.940 experience at this point

01:25:27.040 we're kind of experts on

01:25:28.220 the matter I have great

01:25:31.060 respect for you Chris I

01:25:33.300 really do I think I think

01:25:34.660 what you guys are doing

01:25:35.480 is fantastic I I love the

01:25:38.120 the way you spoke about

01:25:39.260 the anarchist in in Oregon

01:25:42.180 that you saw you know do

01:25:45.620 the basically the same

01:25:46.620 thing in Oregon and you

01:25:48.280 say well I'm I'm not an

01:25:49.600 anarchist but that's a good

01:25:51.020 idea and you guys did it

01:25:52.220 and I think the spirit of

01:25:54.440 people just saying go ahead

01:25:56.720 question on that was that

01:25:58.020 any any star quoted us

01:25:59.560 as saying we're not

01:26:00.200 anarchists and what I

01:26:01.900 would and they were

01:26:03.040 correct on that quote but

01:26:04.020 what I was implying more

01:26:05.340 was that group tends to

01:26:06.780 be anarchist socialist

01:26:08.200 whereas we're more

01:26:10.180 propertarian anarchists a

01:26:11.800 little more on the

01:26:12.480 libertarian side of

01:26:13.700 anarchists but we are

01:26:15.040 anarchists and a lot of

01:26:16.980 the philosophy behind what

01:26:19.420 we do has been rooted in

01:26:21.180 anarchism and individual

01:26:23.060 self-reliance you know

01:26:24.500 okay so so let me just

01:26:26.160 because anarchy gets a

01:26:27.320 really bad name because

01:26:28.440 it's anarchy but there

01:26:33.380 is a difference between

01:26:34.960 anarchy everybody fend for

01:26:37.220 yourself there is no law

01:26:38.600 there is no rule there is

01:26:39.760 no there is no justice or

01:26:42.040 you know it's it's it's

01:26:43.480 mad max and then there is

01:26:45.520 the you know the

01:26:46.980 constitutional anarchy as

01:26:49.100 designed by our our

01:26:50.620 founders to where you are

01:26:52.620 responsible for almost

01:26:53.820 everything in your life the

01:26:55.260 government is is only going

01:26:56.640 to do just the very very

01:26:58.600 basic is that the kind of

01:27:00.560 anarchy you mean or or or

01:27:04.540 or the you know mad max i

01:27:06.720 have to write it all down

01:27:07.480 mad max yeah well i played

01:27:09.900 enough video games to tell

01:27:11.160 you that the mad max

01:27:11.980 scenario sounds pretty scary

01:27:13.480 yeah i i definitely though

01:27:16.540 am still founding a lot of my

01:27:18.260 uh my my personal my personal

01:27:20.100 philosophical beliefs but i do

01:27:21.700 i do believe in a principled

01:27:24.000 anarchy the idea that there

01:27:25.420 would be no forced higher

01:27:27.480 hierarchies and a big word i'd

01:27:29.260 stick with is voluntarist which

01:27:31.600 is no one is compelled to do

01:27:33.400 anything off of their property

01:27:34.820 by force yeah okay and a big

01:27:37.340 part of that is my universal

01:27:38.920 application of that and so yeah i

01:27:42.420 think my anarchy isn't mad max

01:27:44.260 it's more of uh think of like a

01:27:48.120 homeowner's organization and how

01:27:49.940 it maintains the neighborhood

01:27:51.200 yeah everyone chooses to live

01:27:53.120 within the neighborhood no one

01:27:54.260 is forced to correct that on a

01:27:56.460 global scale is a pretty broad

01:27:58.860 terms what i believe so um can i

01:28:01.080 ask you a question how are you

01:28:02.560 how are people and this is an

01:28:04.100 honest question how are people

01:28:05.840 anarchists and socialists

01:28:08.660 so that was the question that i

01:28:12.760 first because i came from a fairly

01:28:14.620 conservative family and when i

01:28:16.800 first you know moved through my

01:28:18.120 political compass i came across

01:28:20.160 libertarianism when i heard about

01:28:21.380 libertarian socialism that sounded

01:28:23.620 like an oxymoron to me and i still

01:28:25.620 don't identify or agree with a lot of

01:28:28.080 the base socialist principles but in

01:28:30.400 the theory i understand it and i i

01:28:33.400 still look for a lot of answers in

01:28:35.060 execution but what i see a lot of

01:28:36.840 anarcho-socialists argue for

01:28:38.520 is that the hierarchies themselves

01:28:41.120 of the government don't exist but

01:28:43.780 democratic hierarchies where people

01:28:45.980 within societies choose universal

01:28:48.240 ways to distribute goods exist i don't

01:28:51.360 now like i said i don't yeah i don't

01:28:54.280 really hold these views yeah that's

01:28:56.420 kind of in general terms i've come to

01:28:58.220 understand it yeah okay chris

01:29:00.460 congratulations thank you so much if

01:29:02.640 uh you start getting heat anywhere you

01:29:05.360 let us know will you definitely i would

01:29:08.240 be glad to get some uh public eye on

01:29:10.640 that yeah and we have a we have a story

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01:29:28.000 not tear up the streets but actually

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01:29:35.260 you so much chris i appreciate it thank

01:29:37.660 you so much good talking so let's do it

01:29:44.160 i have socialist anarchists down it just

01:29:50.860 mean burn it all down but then the

01:29:54.260 majority rules and we can elect a few

01:29:58.720 leaders through majority and then they'll

01:30:00.440 tell everybody how to live sure is that i

01:30:04.480 don't know i mean it sounded like uh

01:30:07.060 penn gillette described himself as an

01:30:08.460 anarcho-capitalist yes um which seems

01:30:11.120 similar to what he's kind of talking

01:30:12.620 about right and that i understand everybody

01:30:14.800 just lives and it's more like ayn rand

01:30:17.540 right the anarcho-socialists i i don't i

01:30:20.580 don't know because it eventually means that

01:30:22.400 somebody has to have a gun and force

01:30:23.820 everybody else to do things so i don't

01:30:26.260 get that no okay we're going to talk

01:30:29.040 about donald trump and his attorney and

01:30:31.280 what is happening on that also uh syria

01:30:34.400 we're still waiting can i tie those two

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01:32:06.780 right i can we have an intellectual

01:32:09.960 conversation here for a moment and take

01:32:12.940 all emotion out on both sides and have an

01:32:16.220 intellectual conversation this is a

01:32:18.560 conversation i've never i've heard before

01:32:21.560 in the past maybe 30 years ago but i've

01:32:23.700 never really agreed with it because i

01:32:25.840 didn't think that the i didn't think

01:32:28.620 that times warranted it and i also didn't

01:32:32.440 think that uh

01:32:33.900 i believe in law and order

01:32:38.780 but the the the federal attorney of southern

01:32:45.620 new york this is a guy who you know

01:32:48.420 interviewed with uh donald trump the fbi

01:32:52.140 agents that um asked for this warrant or

01:32:55.140 passed it on to the federal attorney uh

01:32:58.920 was there any kind of conversation at all

01:33:02.820 and should there have been on yes this is a

01:33:09.140 problem and yes we have this situation and

01:33:11.980 i don't know what it is but maybe let's wait

01:33:16.740 for a little bit imagine look at what the

01:33:19.920 president is going through today he has

01:33:22.940 syria russia china north korea all of those

01:33:27.880 are just war pieces and i again i don't uh

01:33:33.100 you know i don't want to stop law and order

01:33:35.740 on you know war pieces or anything else it's

01:33:39.400 important that we are clean all the way but

01:33:42.500 it is also a massive distraction if if if the

01:33:47.580 federal attorney and the fbi don't have rock

01:33:53.660 hard evidence on michael kong if they don't

01:33:57.880 have um

01:33:59.380 if they are not buttoned up on arresting the

01:34:05.040 president's or i'm sorry on raiding the

01:34:07.700 president's attorney's office

01:34:10.220 this is really dangerous the way this has been

01:34:16.480 pulled off and at a very dangerous time

01:34:19.240 we have i i looked up the headline today

01:34:22.300 uh and it was we're waiting for the white

01:34:25.040 house's response to russia on the syria

01:34:27.600 gassing and i had the first the first time

01:34:30.600 since the 1980s i had the feeling that i had

01:34:33.100 when i was working in washington dc

01:34:35.100 and uh kal 007 was blown out of the sky by the

01:34:40.340 russians it was a korean airliner and i

01:34:44.040 remember this is in the time of you know

01:34:46.180 reagan saying it was an evil empire and i

01:34:48.620 remember waiting for the white house

01:34:51.100 response and looking at the top of the

01:34:54.940 national the washington monument thinking

01:34:56.780 we're in ground zero and this discussion is

01:34:59.560 happening here please cool heads prevail

01:35:02.140 what are the conversations like today with

01:35:07.260 the pentagon officials and a very angry

01:35:10.660 president trump glenn beck mercury

01:35:14.340 you're listening to the glenn beck program

01:35:23.460 welcome to uh pat gray from pat gray unleashed

01:35:27.100 the show that uh follows us of the blaze radio network

01:35:29.720 at the blaze.com uh pat let's let's talk a little bit

01:35:33.160 about michael cohen and uh the

01:35:35.240 the extraordinary historic measures that were

01:35:40.060 taken yesterday in raiding the president's personal attorney's office

01:35:44.160 yeah if if they're after the president's personal attorney i don't think any of

01:35:47.820 the client privilege thing applies because if they're just after cohen

01:35:51.560 you're just after the attorney

01:35:54.620 right yes if that's what the ultimate goal is to get him on campaign finance and i think

01:36:00.400 they probably can get him on that

01:36:01.860 uh then you know maybe this isn't um inappropriate

01:36:06.400 but if they're after trump then it's definitely inappropriate

01:36:09.680 but is this a um you know the campaign finance isn't this

01:36:14.640 kind of what uh obama uh raised uh or or had um uh what's his name

01:36:22.500 uh our friend used to be a professor in new york in the empire state building

01:36:27.700 he makes documentaries

01:36:29.780 he's uh he's indian uh he's an immigrant

01:36:36.200 oh he went to prison

01:36:38.940 d'ness d'souza thank you

01:36:40.740 it's like i felt like i was on password the password is dinesh d'souza

01:36:46.780 um but dinesh d'souza i mean this is what he went to uh to jail for a lot less he went to prison

01:36:54.300 for a lot less a lot less because all he did was give too much money to a candidate he wanted to give money to

01:37:00.100 correct that's all he did right well this is a little different this is paying off somebody to protect

01:37:05.060 the campaign it certainly violates the spirit of the law yeah and you know they as you point out

01:37:10.440 dinesh d'souza went to jail for far less than this so it's possible they could come after cohen that

01:37:15.400 way again that wouldn't necessarily uh reflect on trump per se though i mean you know there's

01:37:21.380 certainly here's roll your eyes at the idea that he had no idea about this so here's the here's the

01:37:25.660 problem um uh are they just using this on on cohen and hoping that they're going to find something

01:37:35.740 else you know what i mean yeah i mean the cohen is i mean let's be honest there's there's a few

01:37:40.800 people that we said look he doesn't surround himself with the best people he surrounds himself

01:37:46.000 with the worst people and the ones that we mentioned was flynn flynn bannon bannon cohen cohen

01:37:54.700 uh manafort manafort and all of them we've been right on all of those okay they're all gone

01:38:01.660 so and it seems like we were right on him yeah getting rid of these guys is a really good thing

01:38:06.580 because cohen is he's a bad guy he is a really a bad guy yeah i mean you know look he's the the type

01:38:13.400 of person i give you an example of this because the issue is not with him is not necessarily loyalty

01:38:17.680 oh he'll go to he'll go to jail i think he will he'll be susan mcdougall the problem is he's just a

01:38:23.300 a really crappy corrupt lawyer and this has been beneficial for trump over the years as far as you know

01:38:30.440 he's aggressive he's he uses bullying tactics to get things done to make deals that's been the way

01:38:35.340 he does it and trump likes that that he doesn't necessarily have to be the guy who does that type

01:38:39.500 of stuff the question is if cohen is a really competent lawyer he can draw very bright lines

01:38:46.200 around his activities that may verge into the questionable and keep his clients safe it's his

01:38:52.140 job to keep his clients safe but just to give you an idea of who this guy is remember the story where

01:38:59.200 ivanka trump in a long ago interview and book said she was she had been the victim of rape with

01:39:06.460 donald trump ivanka said that that's on the record it's not questioned she says she said it she later

01:39:11.320 said that look that wasn't real i didn't mean rape rape i well that's not what i was talking about i

01:39:16.240 was talking about uh you know an emotional sort of uh disconnect and she came up with another kind of

01:39:21.580 answer about it and so let's just take that at the at the word for a moment because you mean some

01:39:25.200 people question whether that was true but she's saying it she's saying it now ivanka the victim

01:39:30.160 of this supposed rape is saying it wasn't a rape so i mean there's nothing we can do about that

01:39:34.160 she there i think we should take her under her word so the daily beast who is no no is a terrible

01:39:41.820 publication in many ways uh many many many many ways yes and almost always yes and almost always

01:39:48.180 decided they were unless you're in hell yeah then they're a trusted source yeah they decided they were

01:39:53.540 going to run a story about ivanka's quote about her being raped by donald trump now of course you

01:40:01.160 know the context was going to be questionable uh because it's the daily beast but michael cohn got

01:40:05.980 wind of this and it was his gig to go in and stop the publication now what he said to her uh to the

01:40:12.400 reporter who was going to write the story uh was uh threatened if if you write a story that has mr trump's

01:40:18.280 name in it the word rape i'm going to mess your life up tread very effing lightly because what i'm

01:40:23.720 going to do to you is to is going to be effing disgusting he said this to a reporter on the record

01:40:29.640 okay questionable because it's just and what are you doing you're calling names and you're you're

01:40:34.840 being a bully you're threatening exactly what trump wants out of that role here's the part that's the

01:40:40.020 problem okay he later on goes and says he says legally there is no there is no legal way to rape

01:40:48.660 your wife quote you cannot rape your spouse there is very clear case law now despite pass for a moment

01:40:56.660 beyond the concept of how reprehensible this idea is that a woman because she puts a wedding ring on

01:41:03.200 uh gives the man immunity to sexually assault her at will whenever he wants the concept is so

01:41:10.000 incredibly reprehensible it's hard to believe it was ever a factor in law going back hundreds and

01:41:14.680 hundreds of years however it was law in new york until 1984 now stop for a second it was until 1984

01:41:24.040 1984 was overturned you couldn't rape your wife it was a big it was a big story and there's wow there

01:41:28.100 were a lot of states going back look women couldn't vote there were slaves we've had a lot of really

01:41:33.040 terrible laws in this country that eventually uh were overturned the idea that you could rape your

01:41:37.540 wife was overturned in 1984 big story new york times it was a big thing michael cohen is a lawyer

01:41:44.460 practicing law in the state of new york and he doesn't know that was overturned 30 plus years later

01:41:52.240 and he still thinks it's the law that's great he's such a terrible attorney yeah that there's almost no

01:42:00.120 way if he did something wrong he actually was capable of drawing these lines about around donald

01:42:07.520 trump and you might think okay during the you know the election they were on their toes the risk is

01:42:14.280 there by all reports they didn't think they were actually going to win so if they didn't win there

01:42:19.000 would be no case there would be no legal recourse really going on you know we wouldn't have known

01:42:23.560 about any of this we wouldn't have known about the meeting and trump tower we don't know about any of

01:42:27.660 that stuff if he actually if he wound up losing but he wound up winning and you might think maybe

01:42:32.240 they were kind of protective but a shady llc to pay a porn star 130 000 a week before the election

01:42:38.980 forget about like whether that's legally whether he did it right or not there's a lot of questions on

01:42:44.680 that but it's reckless behavior yeah there's almost no way for him to have done it right think about

01:42:50.100 right and think about what this guy was doing in 1999 or 2005 when he didn't think he was in the

01:42:57.820 middle of a presidential campaign you know again it may he may have protected trump trump may have had

01:43:03.840 no idea of any of this but the the reason they get this i the the i the the ability to raid michael

01:43:11.040 cohen's office is because they have something and it may be 20 years ago but they have something that's

01:43:16.040 so blatantly clear that he did something wrong yeah this decision illegal analysis this is this is

01:43:23.100 something that both left and right are saying that this is significant you just don't do this

01:43:29.100 you know this is historic what happened and i'm afraid if they don't come out with something pretty

01:43:34.980 damn quickly and they don't make it clear this is not going to sit well with the american people

01:43:42.040 because i have to tell you if you would go and arrest and break attorney client privileges

01:43:47.420 even with barack obama if you would have done that and you and it was a it just felt like this is a

01:43:54.620 never-ending investigation and it's just kind of slipping into all kinds of stuff and it looked like a

01:44:00.640 fishing expedition i defend president clinton you don't break attorney client privilege unless it is

01:44:09.020 of extraordinary circumstance so what is that circumstance and it pays off and unless it's

01:44:16.100 something involving cohen and the campaign finance or something he's done in his past i mean if it if

01:44:21.680 it involves the russian thing they don't even have any collusion uh evidence on that there's nothing

01:44:26.700 to back this up yeah this is an investigation that probably should have ended a long time ago and

01:44:31.920 when we haven't seen the results of it yet of course i mean and you know cohen again in the middle

01:44:36.440 of the time where trump is saying to the public i have no russian connections i have no russian

01:44:41.200 deals michael cohen maybe completely on his own is trying to close the deal of trump tower moscow

01:44:47.580 see this is a this is where it gets probably yeah that's again that's where it gets problematic

01:44:51.260 if if the if if michael cohen is proven to be doing negotiations with moscow for trump tower moscow

01:45:01.940 yeah at the same time there's a there's a real problem here on wait a minute mr president they'll

01:45:09.760 say one had nothing to do with the other yeah but that's not but that is absolute from a guy who said

01:45:15.380 i'm not going to separate my business and my and my uh presidency i still have to stay in charge i still

01:45:22.260 have to know what's going on and that's why you do that though there's no way yeah i know there's

01:45:26.080 no way this guy didn't know that moscow trump tower was being negotiated come on there's no way

01:45:34.180 there's no way of course not it completely implausible now cohen had a lot of uh he had a lot of ability

01:45:40.460 to investigate deals internationally it was one of his main roles within the organization so i mean

01:45:46.260 it's not completely impossible but the idea that highly unlikely highly unlikely right highly

01:45:52.400 unlikely that doesn't mean that there was collusion by the way it just means that he wasn't telling

01:45:55.660 the truth when he was talking about business deals in russia yeah right that does not mean that

01:45:59.420 however that they've affected the election or anything like that cohen could go to jail for

01:46:04.220 a million reasons or you know be in trouble for a million reasons that have nothing to do that

01:46:09.880 doesn't sully uh donald trump other than he you know worked with a scumbag attorney but that's that's

01:46:15.980 already baked into the price of donald trump we all knew that we all knew that yeah we all knew that

01:46:19.760 so what what's the new thing here oh his his attorney's a scumbag and maybe doing illegal things

01:46:25.700 huh huh you know just just from a pr perspective can you think of a worse move than calling up a

01:46:33.940 reporter on the record saying you can't rape your spouse and associating your client with that

01:46:40.320 with that point his on the record defense is you can't legally rape your spouse when you don't so much

01:46:48.180 just google it to make sure you're what you're saying is accurate it's i think on for 33 years

01:46:53.760 guarantee you could google that and find the law in new york yeah it was a big story at the time

01:46:59.220 yeah so let's say that that they do come back and say okay he campaign finance he broke the laws with

01:47:06.360 campaign finance he's going to jail but they don't find anything that shows that donald trump was

01:47:12.460 colluding with him on that yeah does that affect the president at all not at all i don't think

01:47:18.120 does you know no i it's like you said it's already been baked in we know about him we knew about him

01:47:22.560 during the campaign and we talked about it many times what a douchebag cohen is he's a bad guy and

01:47:28.040 he's he's as close to a family member as they have in the organization um so he's going to be very loyal

01:47:32.920 very protective and to this point it's actually better for michael cohen if donald trump did give

01:47:40.320 him the 130 000 for stormy daniels because donald trump is not limited for campaign contributions

01:47:47.300 there's a normal limit of what is it three or four thousand dollars where michael cohen can't do that

01:47:53.260 and it's seen as an in-kind contribution if you're donating money to someone to pay somebody off i don't

01:47:58.260 think he did it i don't think he did i don't think donald trump gave him the money i really don't

01:48:02.600 donald trump is not the kind i mean he didn't put his own money into the into the campaign really i mean

01:48:09.020 oh yeah a little bit a little bit but he was also doing the campaign was paying for all of the stops

01:48:14.720 at his hotel so he was making that money back he's just not the guy to do that it's actually worse

01:48:20.580 for cohen if trump didn't pay him back right and doesn't make and doesn't make a difference on trump

01:48:26.060 either way and neither yeah it's my point of loyalty it looks bad for trump if he gave 130 000 to a porn

01:48:31.460 star which is why they put it through an llc that's why they put it through michael cohen i don't think his

01:48:35.820 supporters will care right right but that's why they did it right to protect trump in the general

01:48:40.200 election a week before the election right that's that's absolutely clear and you could say that it

01:48:43.900 might have been michael cohen who did it dumb payoff because nobody would have cared probably not as

01:48:47.560 we see now nobody would have cared nobody would have cared in fact the story was already out there

01:48:50.880 and still people we didn't elect the pastor-in-chief i mean we already baked this in too all right so my

01:48:56.260 my point really is can i tell you something it really is i could walk outside and i could shoot

01:49:00.340 somebody in the street well and we talked about at the time it really he is that teflon he is he is

01:49:06.340 my point though is with loyalty right michael cohen by saying hey i by even leaving it open that i got

01:49:14.600 some of this money from trump would protect himself from going to prison and he's the one out there

01:49:19.240 saying i didn't get the money from trump he is he's exposing himself right you remember you remember

01:49:24.380 susan mcdougall yeah i mean she went to jail for the clintons this guy will go to to jail um and i'm

01:49:30.440 not saying that trump did anything wrong but he he'll go to jail before he would turn i think so too

01:49:35.820 yeah he'll go to jail he's a loyal loyal guy

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01:51:19.760 glenn beck you know why do we all get up every day and do what we do i do it because i know who you are

01:51:33.660 i just want to earlier today we had frank luntz on an hour number one and he was i kind of worried

01:51:39.580 about him and um apparently you did too i just got a note from frank uh glenn i want to let you know

01:51:45.320 the response i've received from your radio audience is incredible i've had more people email messages of

01:51:50.500 encouragement than anything that i have done and they all reference the brutality of politics and how

01:51:56.060 we all have to find a better way music to my ears and to yours as well i get up every day because i know

01:52:04.460 who you are we'll see you tonight at five o'clock and back here on the radio tomorrow

01:52:10.060 glenn beck mercury

01:52:18.220 guitar solo

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The Glenn Beck Program - April 10, 2018

'No Closer To The Truth' - 4⧸10⧸18

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