The Glenn Beck Program - No Prayers For You! ｜ Guests： Kevin Williamson & Lisa Paige

00:00:00.000 the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenbeck program well we've uh

00:00:09.460 we've crossed over lines that i didn't know could be crossed i have watched the media for a very

00:00:18.060 long time i've watched people in washington politicians for a very long time and i thought

00:00:28.780 i had seen the worst of them and every time i think that i find something brand new

00:00:38.460 that they do that it crosses yet another line the this weekend's coverage of the two

00:00:46.820 mass shootings in the united states this weekend where it was was so incredibly horrific

00:00:53.920 it's i i am almost without words to describe it of course you know by now in el paso mass shooting

00:01:04.360 in dayton ohio another mass shooting uh they are you know horrible horrible incidents and yes i must say

00:01:15.600 my thoughts and prayers are with the victims i know that's not cool anymore to say

00:01:19.880 you know honestly my thoughts what do you care about my thoughts prayers are actually important

00:01:25.720 if you happen to be a person of faith here's something to let you if you you know if you're

00:01:29.920 one of these people that is not a person of faith you might think that prayers are just meaningless

00:01:33.800 uh and i that's certainly your right to do that uh but it's one of the most important things that

00:01:39.300 someone of faith can actually offer in a situation like this so when you demean it

00:01:43.240 you're demeaning every the most important things that everyone you're talking about believes in

00:01:48.700 just so you understand what you're doing and we've actually crossed the line there too with politicians

00:01:53.060 because remember over the past few months we've seen this thing creep up where they say thoughts

00:01:58.420 and prayers are not enough thoughts and prayers are not enough and okay i mean i don't understand

00:02:07.820 why you feel the need to point that out i guess you think it's cool it gets you some new donations

00:02:13.540 but we've crossed the line now to this from kamala harris this weekend no more thoughts and prayers

00:02:20.180 so no longer are you allowed to think about these incidents and no longer are you absolutely you're

00:02:28.380 certainly not able to pray for the victims of these incidents or the families of the victims of these

00:02:34.280 incidents don't think about them and don't pray for them kamala told you not to no more thoughts and

00:02:42.120 prayers well i mean they've mastered the no more thoughts part of that because they certainly don't

00:02:48.160 seem to be using their noggin there is very little thinking going on when it comes to this but i want to

00:02:55.820 get to something very specific because if you were reading the reports about this this weekend

00:03:00.640 you'll notice of course that the dayton shooting was basically not talked about and the reason for

00:03:08.720 that is there's no real political use you know you look at the 2020 candidates and we'll play them

00:03:16.140 all for you here what they're doing is trying to find the best way to use the dead bodies from the

00:03:23.060 weekend to move their polls one percent two percent who can come out with the coolest most viral

00:03:30.360 reaction to these horrible tragedies to try to move up the the scale of the 25 candidates by one or two

00:03:38.040 it's despicable it's completely despicable but what they have done and what the media has done

00:03:43.440 it goes beyond that this weekend you heard this line in probably every single report about the white

00:03:51.300 nationalist manifesto that went on and i want to quickly before we take a one minute break say this

00:03:56.880 i was i am completely with the blazes

00:04:00.400 policy of not naming these victims i've been very outspoken about that if you know this i was one of

00:04:08.020 the people behind the scenes asking for this policy uh beforehand and i also would extend that to

00:04:14.440 talking about their motivations generally speaking i think you should probably know generally what they

00:04:19.100 are but focusing too much on a manifesto i think is a really bad idea this is what they want

00:04:23.360 but because of what the media has done this weekend i want to give you at least one paragraph

00:04:27.500 of this manifesto because they are they are you know frankly they are lying to you about it they're

00:04:33.040 lying to you about the entire thing and you need to know the details of it so here is the one line

00:04:38.700 you heard everywhere this weekend if we can get rid of enough people then our white way of life can

00:04:45.060 become more sustainable obviously in the context of all the reporting with much quotes from the entire

00:04:51.980 manifesto you would take that to to to mean if we can get rid of hispanic people right then our the

00:05:00.280 white way of life will flourish that is sort of the reasoning of this guy and there's certainly a lot

00:05:05.980 of that in his manifesto but i want to take a 60 second break and on the other side tell you what comes

00:05:11.460 immediately before that in the same paragraph back in 60 seconds

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00:06:23.960 so if we can get rid of enough people then our way of life can become more sustainable

00:06:39.980 in every single article that i think i read about these shootings uh and it is part of the manifesto

00:06:46.300 now you will hear all these candidates specifically blaming trump for these shootings

00:06:53.580 beto o'rourke explicitly did it this weekend he's from el paso he said trump is a white nationalist

00:07:00.940 and he is responsible for this shooting his his racism is the one leading to the violence

00:07:08.420 uh president trump is responsible for this violence from cory booker we'll play you the quotes coming up

00:07:13.940 i don't want to run out of time here though several of these candidates did the same thing

00:07:19.380 the blame is on president trump why because in the manifesto it does reference uh the dislike for

00:07:24.980 immigration uh the uh dislike for uh you know illegal immigration the idea that many people would be

00:07:32.600 coming across the border and invading that was a big thing that you saw people talking about how

00:07:37.100 trump said this looks like an invasion and this guy says it looks like an invasion this is trump's fault

00:07:42.140 so let me give you this paragraph from the manifesto again it ends with this if we can get rid of

00:07:50.840 enough people then our way of life can become more sustainable obviously in context what that means

00:07:58.520 is that white people can have a more sustainable flourishing life if we get rid of all these mexicans

00:08:04.020 here is the paragraph the american lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life however

00:08:09.880 our lifestyle is destroying the environment of the country the decimation of the environment is creating a

00:08:20.560 massive burden for future generations does this sound like donald trump to you

00:08:27.140 corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over harvesting resources

00:08:38.540 is this donald trump or is it anything you could have heard from any of the 25 candidates

00:08:46.540 running for the presidency uh on the in the democratic party could this could not be said by jay insley

00:08:53.780 this has been a problem for decades going back to the manifesto for example uh shamelessly over

00:09:00.480 harvey uh this excuse me this uh phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic

00:09:05.300 the lorax watersheds around the country especially in agricultural areas are being depleted fresh water is

00:09:13.940 being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of

00:09:21.640 unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste and recycling to help slow down slow this down is almost

00:09:33.260 non-existent you see he's very upset that there's not enough recycling going on just like donald

00:09:42.620 harvesting resources just like donald trump he's very upset at the corporations heading the destruction of

00:09:52.260 our environment just like donald trump now when the mick malvaney went on on tv this weekend to try to defend

00:10:00.120 the president he brought up the fact that this uh maniac who we will not name said well all my ideas

00:10:08.100 predate trump it's not trump's fault which is true he does say that but this is to me much more important

00:10:13.560 that people understand he goes on after the uh we're not recycling enough commentary to say that urban

00:10:21.420 urban sprawl creates inefficient cities where on which unnecessarily destroy millions of acres of land

00:10:28.780 we even use god knows how many trees worth of paper towels just to wipe water off our hands

00:10:38.900 everything i have seen and heard in my short life has led me to believe that the average american isn't

00:10:45.680 willing to change their lifestyle even if the changes only cause a slight inconvenience the government

00:10:51.980 is unwilling to tackle these issues beyond empty promises because they are owned by corporations

00:10:59.600 was that a quote from elizabeth warren or the manifesto of of the el paso shooter which one was it do you

00:11:07.560 know if i were to just give you that out of context who said that certainly wouldn't be donald trump

00:11:12.020 as your guess would it corporations that also like immigration because more people means a bigger

00:11:20.640 market for their products i just want to say that i love the people of this country but gd most you're

00:11:26.140 all are too stubborn to change your lifestyle so the next logical step is to decrease the number of

00:11:32.100 people using resources and here's where the media picks it up if we can get rid of enough people

00:11:38.320 then our way of life can become more sustainable do you believe the media is this horrible i do this

00:11:50.320 for a living this is my stupid job to come on this radio station you're listening to or this podcast

00:11:58.960 that you're listening to and blab about how bad the media does every single day and it's easy to find

00:12:07.280 examples of it but it has been an exclusive focus there's a massive op-ed from the new york times

00:12:14.180 today that we can go through there is there are dozens of articles in the times every candidate that

00:12:20.460 came out on record is saying basically the same thing that it's donald trump's fault

00:12:24.520 every the media is a concert they're all playing the same note though and that note is it's donald trump's

00:12:36.100 fault that the shooting went on it's his rhetoric that leads to these things if you want to find a

00:12:40.140 balanced source they'll say something like well look you can't blame donald trump but he's creating

00:12:45.200 an environment in which this stuff can flourish well what the hell is this listen to the candidates

00:12:52.940 on stage they are telling you that people like donald trump and corporations are killing you

00:12:59.000 killing your children using uh things like excess plastic waste not enough recycling ruining our water

00:13:07.800 the environment is under attack by the american consumer and we must do something to stop it

00:13:15.420 or our way of life will not be able to be sustained that is the unquestioned truth from every single

00:13:23.800 democrat and basically every media source available in america today

00:13:29.260 now it's one thing to completely ignore the part of the manifesto that disagrees with your narrative

00:13:41.960 because that's what a lot of the media has done here they just say you know what you know what i gotta

00:13:49.000 say look it's all about trump it's all about immigration that's what he's talking about we're

00:13:54.140 not going to link to it now because we don't want to give him attention that's our reasoning we're not

00:13:58.660 going to link to it but uh trust us here's a bunch of quotes from it that all point to the white supremacy

00:14:04.220 thing yet here he is outlining and in detail every argument you could say the same thing about

00:14:11.780 elizabeth warren he's talking she's talking about corporate consumerism destroying our nation

00:14:16.700 victimizing innocent people jay insley is talking about how the environment is being ruined and

00:14:22.920 people like uh you know donald trump and big corporations are are victimizing you and destroying

00:14:31.640 our way of life he's quoting from their campaign platforms it's one thing to ignore it it's another

00:14:41.520 step beyond that to use a quote from that paragraph and still not mention the environmentalist part of

00:14:51.960 his his uh manifesto they're quoting from the same paragraph and acting as if that information does not

00:15:02.500 exist beyond beyond horrible beyond anything i have ever seen before in the media

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00:16:17.680 it's due in for glenn on the glenn beck program let's play some of the clips

00:16:37.260 for you here is uh let's start with beto o'rourke because look beto o'rourke is in a massive amount

00:16:44.220 of desperation he needs something to go his way and he's decided you know what there's a bunch of

00:16:52.620 people suffering so let's use that that's a good way to to rise in the polls

00:16:57.940 here is beto o'rourke talking about trump being a white nationalist do you think president trump is a

00:17:05.180 white nationalist yes i i do and again uh from some of the record that i just recited to you

00:17:13.700 the the things that he has said both as a candidate uh and then as the president of the united states

00:17:20.940 this cannot be uh open for for debate and and you as well as i have a responsibility to call that out

00:17:28.980 to make sure that the american people understand what is being done in their name by the person who

00:17:34.400 holds the highest position of public trust in this land so there's not it's not even not even

00:17:39.900 it's okay to suggest it there can't be a debate about it you can't disagree

00:17:43.380 there is look there's no evidence that donald trump is a white nationalist is he occasionally

00:17:52.220 insensitive when it comes to racial issues probably probably true does he say the wrong

00:17:57.340 thing sometimes yeah probably true uh is he a white national does he have a white nationalist

00:18:02.440 ideology you know it's hard to i think make an argument that donald trump has a a particularly

00:18:07.180 well-defined ideology of any sort he believes in a few things really strongly things like trade

00:18:12.000 protectionism that he's believed in his entire life ever since he's been in the public eye

00:18:15.200 there are things like the border that you know he came to later in life but has been pretty

00:18:20.480 consistent since in this run of pres uh since he announced his candidacy he's been strong on the

00:18:26.340 border has been trying to do that uh pretty outwardly but the idea that he is any there's any evidence

00:18:32.580 that he's a has a developed white supremacist ideology is completely insane it is not true beto o'rourke

00:18:40.520 knows it's not true here is beto talking about trump's racism leading to violence he is a racist

00:18:49.580 and he stokes racism in this country and it does not just offend our sensibilities it it fundamentally

00:18:57.060 changes the character of this country and it leads to violence it leads to i mean again do you think

00:19:04.200 beto you know it's his district it's his at least his area do you think he bothered to read the manifesto

00:19:10.440 do you think that we could does he know that we could go into his platform and do the exact same

00:19:15.700 thing to him does he know it does he care because he knows the media is not going to do it to him

00:19:20.820 the media is not going to say hey uh beto o'rourke and jay insley and kamala harris you know what we're

00:19:27.580 seeing a lot of your rhetoric in his manifesto do you want to comment on that is that fair well of course

00:19:36.120 it's not fair of course it's not fair just like it's not fair to blame donald trump you don't

00:19:42.660 this is a crazy idea and i've developed this over a long long uh see i've been thinking about this

00:19:48.140 one for a while and i want you to see i'm gonna run it by you see what you think um maybe the person

00:19:51.820 who pulls the trigger should be responsible for the murders

00:19:54.120 now look the show's really short if we all agree on that one i gotta tell you this three hour thing

00:20:03.820 filling in for glenn today i'd have to go and we might be talking nfl by hour two

00:20:08.680 because i don't i i would not be able to keep this one going if we all agree on it but i thought

00:20:15.560 it would be an interesting concept if we blamed the perpetrator of the crime for the crime

00:20:21.240 i thought we could go down that road we don't blame whatever politician we don't like

00:20:28.060 for the crime instead we blame the person who actually committed the crime for the crime

00:20:34.940 it's an approach occasionally used by law enforcement

00:20:38.060 that's kind of how they look at it we've got a legal system that our founders put together

00:20:44.720 that put the squarely the blame for a crime on the shoulders of the person who committed it

00:20:53.000 not family members not their children not their brothers not their fathers not the person that they

00:20:59.840 share general agreement with on one section of a politician's policy

00:21:05.460 and not the person who also agrees we don't recycle enough or we're over harvesting resources

00:21:14.320 or that corporations are the massive ill destroying our nation

00:21:19.080 no no we don't blame them we blame the person who actually committed the crime

00:21:25.860 crazy idea let me know what you think

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00:22:34.640 it's due in for glenn on the glenn beck program i you know i don't want to

00:22:40.080 let anybody think that we're not going to get into uh actual solutions to this stuff today we are

00:22:46.840 we're going to go into all of that we're going to talk about really like what how do you you know

00:22:53.640 what is this what's the real cause of this but the media stuff is so egregious on this one i i it's

00:22:59.400 almost insurmountable i cannot believe and it has to be intentional by these candidates and by the

00:23:06.500 media to ignore this stuff is absolutely unbelievable welcome in pat gray of pat gray unleashed

00:23:12.200 welcome pat thank you you know be here pat there was another shooting that happened this weekend not

00:23:17.160 just the one in el paso no no there wasn't it's been summarized talk about that one we can't no

00:23:22.000 can't talk about that one because it was done by a socialist so we don't want to know about that

00:23:27.320 it was it was happened to be done by um a supporter of one particular candidate in fact who's going to

00:23:34.500 vote for uh elizabeth warren elizabeth warren elizabeth warren supporter shot nine people i guess this is

00:23:40.360 her fault uh that i guess we had nine people were shot in dayton uh you know it's it's unbelievable

00:23:48.320 really it's if saying the word invasion makes makes donald trump responsible for the el paso shooting

00:23:58.040 i then i'm sorry the hollywood movies featuring three solid hours of massacre that we watch over and

00:24:07.660 over and over and over i guess those have no effect on anybody the video games that you play for

00:24:14.480 8 10 12 hours a day those have no effect on you in desensitizing people uh now i've i've never said

00:24:22.180 that they cause those things that hollywood is responsible for those things but if you're gonna

00:24:26.720 say that the word invasion makes trump responsible for this then we need to look at some other people

00:24:32.580 like quentin tarantino who are responsible for what's going on in this country i mean the blood

00:24:37.700 bath that he continually uh manufactures and puts on screen for people to see that's that doesn't do

00:24:44.460 anything to people but oh the word invasion made this guy run out and kill 20 20 people in el paso

00:24:50.620 it's just so asinine yeah i know it's a hollywood's very quick to take credit for stopping people from

00:24:57.320 smoking uh from in from getting people to be more friendly to lgbt causes they put the they'll tell

00:25:04.740 you we put this in the movie movie we want people to understand we want to normalize it we want people

00:25:09.120 to understand that it's okay which i think they've helped do yeah actually i think it has normalized and

00:25:13.660 they they believe that was the right thing to do and they did it and they admitted to it when it comes

00:25:17.960 to violence when it comes to anything else no that has nothing to do with our movies the good things

00:25:23.080 work the bad things never do any make any difference and look i'm much more of a person

00:25:28.040 who says look you can't you can't blame these you can't blame these uh companies even if their

00:25:32.920 intent was to make people more violent it still would not be their responsibility their responsibility

00:25:38.620 goes to the people who do this you know lots of people we've had a massive rise in uh violent

00:25:44.400 video games over the past you know 20 30 years and we've seen a decrease in violent crime in violent

00:25:50.140 crime yeah now that we have seen an increase in the type of shooting that would be associated with

00:25:56.820 a first person shooter right like the mass shooting of random people gamified where where they're talking

00:26:04.840 on 8chan boards hey who's going to get the high score right like there has been an increase in that

00:26:10.140 type of crime but in a context of a lowering uh overall crime number yeah and so that's so it's weird

00:26:17.080 it's weird it's incongruent yes also the same guy who used the word invasion used the word

00:26:23.880 sustainable yeah thank you in his rant about the environment and so is al gore who talks about

00:26:31.480 sustainability all the time is he responsible for the killing in el paso as well uh are all the rest

00:26:37.620 of the presidential candidates who are also on board with climate change and sustainable forms of

00:26:42.040 energy are they responsible for the killing and again if you just joined us he didn't use

00:26:46.000 sustainable in some other context he used it in the context of the environment of all climate change

00:26:51.740 goofballs yeah he talked about how uh you know we are shamelessly over harvesting resources we are

00:26:59.540 creating unnecessary plastic waste because of our quote consumer culture we uh have destroyed millions

00:27:07.160 of acres of land we use so many trees worth of paper towels just to wipe off our hands does this

00:27:13.820 sound like donald trump no i heard it legitimately zero people in the media point out that this was

00:27:20.240 one of his main motivations no one is that's i mean it's incredible it's so irresponsible yeah and

00:27:26.660 you know you you played some of what beto o'rourke had to say that's some of the most irresponsible

00:27:30.440 rhetoric i've ever heard from a mainstream politician yeah anybody in a major poly uh party i have never

00:27:37.660 heard that kind of irresponsible talk about a president of the united states at one point he compares him to

00:27:42.820 the third reich he legitimately just states he's a white nationalist racist i mean that's just it's

00:27:50.060 he he definitely he answers the question is donald trump responsible for this killing his answer isn't

00:27:57.400 well look it's yes that's unbelievable they don't say yes to anything no beto is could you confirm that

00:28:05.960 the sky is blue well look uh well look it's uh especially beto he can never answer a question

00:28:11.900 he can't he can't they can never straightforward and they'll be pinned down uh candidate uh candidate

00:28:17.360 x yes or no question is the sky blue well look i i mean let me be clear about this as i've stated in

00:28:26.180 the past i mean look at try to get elizabeth warren to admit that taxes go up with her health care

00:28:31.420 plan oh no she can't she can't do it she cannot do it overall cost we all know they're going up yeah

00:28:37.320 she'll only talk about that listen to this from the the new york times this is an op-ed out today

00:28:41.280 i found to be fascinating if one of the perpetrators of this weekend's two mass shootings had adhered to

00:28:47.480 the ideology of radical islam the resources of the american government and its international allies

00:28:53.040 would mobilize without delay the awesome power of the state would work tirelessly to deny future

00:28:59.320 terrorists access to weaponry money and forms to spread their ideology the movement would be

00:29:04.760 infiltrated by spies and informants its financiers would face sanctions places of congregation would

00:29:11.000 be surveilled those who gave aid or comfort to terrorists would be prosecuted programs would be

00:29:16.820 established to radicalize former adherents no american would settle for thoughts and prayers

00:29:22.760 as a counter-terrorism strategy first of all some of those things would happen but all

00:29:28.000 at the opposition of you new york times you would oppose every single one of those things if radical

00:29:33.580 islam was uh the reason for it and secondarily you'd criticize us for using the phrase radical islam

00:29:40.000 so don't act as if you're all on board with fighting things this way you never have been not to mention

00:29:47.220 the fact that there have been mass shootings from radical islamists a lot of them we haven't done any of

00:29:53.160 those things we haven't largely because the media has said you can't do them right right right fort

00:29:59.460 hood did they mobilize any of that stuff uh orlando orlando right shooting now then it goes on to say

00:30:06.060 in predictable corners moderate muslims would be excoriated for not speaking out more forcibly

00:30:12.600 against the extremists in their midst that's true and what what are those predictable corners

00:30:16.240 right you're talking about conservatives right you're talking about conservatives who would be upset

00:30:21.120 about that you are never upset about it the new york times is never upset about those things

00:30:26.980 now supposedly we are supposed to be really upset about white nationalism well guess what we are we are

00:30:33.020 and always have been always have announced it strongly from the beginning absolutely white

00:30:39.360 nationalists and terror attacks are local but the ideology is global i found the word global to be

00:30:45.540 intriguing there considering this global warming fanatic who went and shot people by his own

00:30:52.360 description because of the environment along with immigration you've only heard immigration i love

00:30:58.320 the fact that they point out that it's global on saturday a terrorist who according to federal law

00:31:02.720 enforcement official wrote that he feared a quote hispanic invasion of texas was replacing white

00:31:07.580 americans open fire at walmart what else did he say did he say just that it goes on to explain

00:31:14.520 a lot of the things he said in the manifesto except the ones that are inconvenient to the left

00:31:20.300 yeah in fact the ideology is entitled

00:31:24.500 let me give you the exact one the inconvenient truth is the title of the manifesto it's amazing

00:31:34.900 is also the title of an albor book nobody has anybody mentioned that has anybody mentioned it

00:31:40.000 it's the i saw it for the first time this morning when i was handed the article by my producer and i

00:31:46.840 the inconvenient truth yeah wow and does that seem weird right wing rhetoric it kind of seems like

00:31:53.640 maybe this guy because glenn wrote a book called an inconvenient book maybe this guy's just pair you

00:31:57.960 know he's doing a parody he doesn't like gore no he loves gore right he's in here he does not

00:32:02.980 mention gore by name yeah but he's on board with what he's saying uh it goes on is al gore responsible

00:32:08.380 for this is he i mean we should play that game of course and it's a dumb game it's stupid it's

00:32:14.320 asinine the times goes on most importantly american law enforcement needs to target white nationalists

00:32:19.680 with the same zeal that they have targeted radical islamic terrorists the zeal you totally disagreed

00:32:24.860 with along the entire path of the war on terrorism you disagreed with that path but now it's okay for

00:32:30.540 white nationalists is it also okay for environmentalists is it also okay to go to every one of their

00:32:36.200 meetings and have the government infiltrate the meetings of environmentalists to make sure those

00:32:40.240 extreme environmentalists don't do this too yeah is that okay and by the way this is the first radical

00:32:45.300 environmentalist to do something like this yeah to do crazy things we've had multiple uh psychos

00:32:51.420 yeah if you're these things there was um a guy who held at gunpoint the discovery channel right a couple

00:32:57.460 years ago yep we have multiple organizations that are set up to destroy property uh like alf and elf

00:33:04.400 the animal animal liberation front and the environmental liberation front this is not new

00:33:09.560 no uh it is it's been out there for a while but they say there can be no middle ground when it comes

00:33:14.680 to white nationalism and the terrorism it inspires you either for it or against it well you know what

00:33:19.000 i would agree with you on that were you with us when it came to islamic extremism are you with us

00:33:25.080 when it comes to environmental extremism i've seen little to no evidence of either

00:33:28.920 i mean i the the hypocrisy that is going on with us right now is just it's just unbelievable

00:33:39.360 let me give you a uh a quote from cory booker you have time for cory booker here pat who doesn't

00:33:45.460 always make time for cory always make time for cory booker here is cory booker uh on nbc's meet the

00:33:53.140 press we have a president united states who is particularly responsible uh i i in my faith

00:33:59.380 have this idea that you reap what you sow and he is sowing seeds of hatred in our country and

00:34:04.460 this harvest of hate violence that we're seeing right now uh lies at his feet when you have the

00:34:10.560 president from the highest moral office in our land talking about invasions and infestations and

00:34:15.720 whole countries the kind of things that come out of his mouth that so harm the moral fabric of our

00:34:22.480 nation he is responsible he's responsible he has taken no action whatsoever to even condemn white

00:34:28.940 supremacy that's unbelievable i mean they are just flat out saying donald trump is responsible for

00:34:34.940 the shooting it's true i mean presidential candidates are flat out saying the president of

00:34:42.280 the united states is responsible and being cheered on by the media for doing it and being cheered on by

00:34:47.360 the media you know for doing it this is replaced their hatred for trump is such that it trumps their

00:34:53.460 hatred for guns yeah that's amazing yeah yeah that's a great point they're not even worried about the the

00:34:58.100 call i mean they're that's a kind of a ancillary issue right now they're a little bit on the gun

00:35:04.020 control thing but mostly this is about donald trump that's how much they hate this guy it's it's really

00:35:11.320 uh psychotic at this point it's gone way too far yeah the other thing too is that cory booker just

00:35:19.480 loves the the idea that he gets a chance to say the s word on tv he does love he loves it yeah man does

00:35:25.960 he think he's super special is it and i said it in the debate but without you know right it was

00:35:30.820 abbreviating the s word for s whole countries and now he says that he knows he's on television and

00:35:37.820 they're not gonna they're gonna have to bleep it he doesn't care yeah although they didn't they

00:35:41.460 didn't bleep it in the debate because they couldn't it was live right and it was cnn yeah cnn loves it

00:35:45.760 too they all love that they get to say these nasty words on tv now because they think oh donald trump

00:35:50.220 said i can say i mean do we do that with john carrey when he's using the f-bomb and interview after

00:35:55.340 interview after video interview no no we did not no they do like that part of it there's just this

00:36:01.420 i guess there's just a level of of uh it's an incredible disconnect from reality and i guess

00:36:10.580 what i find most offensive about it is we are in a period here where we just watched the 29 people

00:36:17.200 get murdered this weekend it could and the numbers could rise it was a horrific thing now we saw

00:36:22.760 dozens of other shootings in chicago for example this weekend too that nobody's talking about people

00:36:27.740 were shot in a park yeah in chicago this week yeah there was nobody's talking about that depending

00:36:31.960 on what definition you use you could i mean you could make the argument there were two mass shootings

00:36:35.480 in chicago this weekend um but what you're seeing here with these candidates is their efforts to take

00:36:43.500 as as many bodies as they can find and lump them onto their poll numbers to see if they'll go up

00:36:49.340 they are using the suffering and death of these people to try to advance their political campaigns by

00:36:56.500 one point it's really despicable if they can get just a couple of more donations out of the

00:37:03.060 suffering and horrible nightmare these families have been through all the better and never let

00:37:09.160 a crisis go to waste maybe maybe they can push it up so high yeah they make the next debate wow

00:37:14.760 wouldn't that be great that'll be great yeah then they really cashed in on this tragedy good for

00:37:19.420 you never let a crisis go to waste right they've learned that lesson well haven't they yeah they have

00:37:24.140 pat gray from pat gray unleashed the podcast will be available in mere moments if you want to listen

00:37:28.400 to that instead of my rantings uh that's a that's approved at least in some ways uh triple eight

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00:37:38.600 phone number we go to dave in washington hey dave hey stew um this is why i subscribe to the blaze

00:37:44.240 this i've been on i've been on the road since three o'clock this morning

00:37:48.520 and i've listened to cnn to fox and friends i listened a little bit of breitbart and i hear

00:37:54.720 from you what's really about and it and i just i want to thank you guys because half the time i'm not

00:38:03.080 getting everything but to get it from you guys i just want to thank you dave i appreciate that man

00:38:08.180 it means a lot thanks a lot uh blaze tv.com slash glenn promo code glenn love to have you subscribe as

00:38:14.060 well kevin williamson is coming up next i'm hillary that's your four minute buzz and now here's more

00:38:22.020 of the show thanks hillary uh and i will do that i promise uh we're going to have kevin williamson on

00:38:27.440 we also may have a statement from president trump coming up so we're going to watch that closely

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00:39:38.580 to a comment uh from president trump uh about the shootings this weekend we also have kevin

00:39:44.960 williamson on his new book it's a packed show today back in just a second

00:39:48.700 the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenbeck program we are waiting words from

00:39:59.560 president trump on the shootings from this weekend we know 29 people died between two shootings uh both

00:40:08.540 incredibly horrific and you know what i gotta say it my thoughts and my prayers are with everybody

00:40:15.140 uh involved in this uh you know kamala harris set a new standard we learned about today because it was

00:40:20.680 you weren't allowed to say thoughts it was like thoughts and prayers are not enough that was sort of

00:40:25.320 this thing that rose with the left over the past couple of years and now kamala harris set a new

00:40:31.040 standard this weekend no more thoughts and prayers so you are not allowed to pray anymore it's it's not

00:40:37.200 even that that's not enough you just shouldn't do it at all and you also shouldn't think about the

00:40:41.620 incident which i thought was amazing from someone who's going to certainly pitch brand new legislation

00:40:47.100 that is sort of the requirement a lot of times for these things don't think about it and everything

00:40:52.160 will be fine we'll get into that here in a moment we're not sure you know he's trump is scheduled to

00:40:57.080 come out we're going to take that when he does we also have uh all the latest updates on what

00:41:02.720 happened what does it mean if you missed last hour it's important to go back and listen to it we'll try

00:41:08.520 to cover some of the stuff as we go forward here today including you know the idea that nobody is

00:41:14.480 covering from uh what this uh murderer was talking about in el paso that it was not only the dislike of

00:41:20.520 immigrants which is definitely part of it he's definitely a a terrible human being with a white

00:41:25.040 nationalist ideology and hates immigrants and all that's really bad and it's everything the media is

00:41:29.880 saying about that part of it is completely correct they are completely ignoring of course the other

00:41:34.860 motivation he clearly states there even when they take quotes out of that paragraph they are ignoring

00:41:41.620 the fact that he also was uh by his own words motivated by uh consumerism uh environmentalism

00:41:49.120 too much plastic waste that we're uh using uh we're over harvesting resources all of these

00:41:57.260 kind of left-wing things that you could just as easily pull out of the democratic debate from last

00:42:01.560 week and blame on democrats now that's insane and you shouldn't do that because it was it's not

00:42:07.720 democratic presidential candidates fault to to uh to go down that road but it's also just as insane to

00:42:14.440 just blame president trump speaking of president trump he is walking to the microphone right now

00:42:19.500 we're going to take his words on the shootings from this weekend let's tune in

00:42:23.980 he's walking up now he's uh oh yeah here he goes walking up to the microphone

00:42:33.200 about to make a statement on el paso and i assume dayton as well

00:42:38.580 it'll be interesting to see what direction he goes in here we'll have some uh background

00:42:44.180 information on his uh sort of how he's handled previous incidents like this there's been some

00:42:50.420 new reporting on that just in the past few weeks kind of speak to his mindset in moments like this

00:42:55.840 it'll be interesting to see this and and uh and kind of go into depth on the on the philosophy on it

00:43:01.140 um because you know guns are not a core issue for trump it was not something that he walked into the

00:43:06.960 election uh a big supporter of the second amendment he uh has named some uh justices to the supreme court

00:43:14.100 that have backed this uh pretty strongly uh but we'll see how he handles this situation here as he

00:43:20.400 now makes his way to the microphone good morning my fellow americans this morning

00:43:29.640 our nation is overcome with shock horror and sorrow this weekend more than 80 people were killed or

00:43:38.240 wounded in two evil attacks one saturday morning in el paso texas a wicked man went to a walmart store

00:43:49.100 where families were shopping with their loved ones he shot and murdered 20 people and injured 26 others

00:43:57.820 including precious little children then in the early hours of sunday morning dayton ohio another

00:44:09.320 twisted monster opened fire on a crowded downtown street he murdered nine people including his own sister

00:44:19.100 and injured 27 others the first lady and i joined all americans in praying and grieving for the victims

00:44:29.560 their families and the survivors we will stand by their side forever we will never forget

00:44:37.540 these barbaric slaughters are an assault upon our communities

00:44:43.000 an attack upon our nation and a crime against all of humanity we are outraged and sickened

00:44:52.260 by this monstrous evil the cruelty the hatred the malice the bloodshed and the terror our hearts are

00:45:03.020 shattered for every family whose parents children husbands and wives were ripped from their arms

00:45:10.480 and their lives america weeps for the fallen we are a loving nation and our children are entitled to grow up

00:45:19.740 in a just peaceful and loving society together we lock arms to shoulder the grief

00:45:27.180 we ask god in heaven to ease the anguish of those who suffer and we vow to act

00:45:34.820 with urgent resolve i want to thank the many law enforcement personnel who responded to these atrocities

00:45:43.580 with the extraordinary grace and courage of american heroes i have spoken with texas governor greg abbott

00:45:52.420 and ohio governor mike dewine as well as mayor de margo of el paso texas

00:46:00.200 and mayor nan waley of dayton ohio to express our profound sadness and unfailing support

00:46:09.840 today we also send the condolences of our nation to president obrador of mexico

00:46:16.900 and all the people of mexico for the loss of their citizens in the el paso shooting

00:46:23.200 terrible terrible terrible terrible thing i have also been in close contact with attorney general bar

00:46:31.600 and fbi director ray federal authorities are on the ground and i have directed them to provide any and all

00:46:40.980 assistance required whatever is needed the shooter in el paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist

00:46:52.260 hate in one voice our nation must condemn racism bigotry and white supremacy these sinister

00:47:02.120 ideologies must be defeated hate has no place in america hatred warps the mind ravages the heart

00:47:11.360 and devours the soul we have asked the fbi to identify all further resources they need to investigate

00:47:20.500 and disrupt hate crimes and domestic terrorism whatever they need we must recognize that the

00:47:29.600 internet has provided a dangerous avenue to radicalize disturbed minds and perform demented acts

00:47:37.840 we must shine light on the dark recesses of the internet and stop mass murders before they start

00:47:45.920 the internet likewise is used for human trafficking illegal drug distribution and so many other heinous crimes

00:47:55.620 the perils of the internet and social media cannot be ignored and they will not be ignored

00:48:03.920 in the two decades since columbine our nation has watched with rising horror and dread as one mass shooting

00:48:13.320 has followed another over and over again decade after decade we cannot allow ourselves to feel powerless

00:48:23.020 we can and will stop this evil contagion in that task we must honor the sacred memory of those we have lost

00:48:32.880 by acting as one people open wounds cannot heal if we are divided we must seek real bipartisan solutions

00:48:42.320 we have to do that in a bipartisan manner that will truly make america safer and better for all first we

00:48:52.020 must do a better job of identifying and acting on early warning signs i am directing the department of

00:49:00.820 justice to work in partisan partnership with local state and federal agencies as well as social media

00:49:08.020 companies to develop tools that can detect mass shooters before they strike as an example the monster

00:49:14.720 in the parkland high school in florida had many red flags against him and yet nobody took decisive action

00:49:22.160 nobody did anything why not second we must stop the glorification of violence in our society

00:49:29.880 this includes the gruesome and grisly video games that are now commonplace it is too easy today for troubled youth

00:49:39.180 to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence we must stop or substantially reduce this

00:49:48.120 and it has to begin immediately cultural change is hard but each of us can choose to build a culture

00:49:56.180 that celebrates the inherent worth and dignity of every human life that's what we have to do

00:50:01.620 third we must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals

00:50:10.640 who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people not only get treatment but when necessary

00:50:18.740 involuntary involuntary confinement mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger not the gun fourth we must

00:50:27.940 make sure that those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety do not have access to firearms and that if

00:50:37.620 they do those firearms can be taken through rapid due process that is why i have called for red flag laws

00:50:45.460 also known as extreme risk protection orders today i'm also directing the department of justice to

00:50:54.740 propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the death penalty

00:51:04.660 and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly decisively and without years of needless delay

00:51:12.700 these are just a few of the areas of cooperation that we can pursue i am open and ready to listen and discuss all

00:51:21.980 ideas that will actually work and make a very big difference republicans and democrats have proven

00:51:29.980 that we can join together in a bipartisan fashion to address this plague last year we enacted the stop school

00:51:39.420 violence and fix nix acts into law providing grants to improve school safety and strengthening critical

00:51:48.220 background checks for firearm purchases at my direction the department of justice banned bump stocks last year

00:51:57.740 we prosecuted a record number of firearms offenses but there is so much more that we have to do now is the time to

00:52:07.740 set destructive partisanship aside so destructive and find the courage to answer hatred with unity devotion and love

00:52:19.580 our future is in our control america will rise to the challenge we will always have and we always will

00:52:29.020 win the choice is ours and ours alone it is not up to mentally ill monsters it is up to us

00:52:38.140 if we are able to pass great legislation after all of these years we will ensure that those who were

00:52:45.820 attacked will not have died in vain may god bless the memory of those who perished in toledo

00:52:54.300 may god protect them may god protect all of those from texas to ohio

00:53:02.060 may god bless the victims and their families may god bless america thank you very much thank you

00:53:12.060 there's president trump from the white house uh there's a lot to take in there let's go back

00:53:17.900 through it and kind of if you missed part of it we'll kind of take take you through the important

00:53:22.060 parts of what president trump just said addressing the shootings from this weekend we'll do that in 60

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00:54:34.460 in the new york times today there's a op-ed from james comey and it's entitled mr president please

00:54:53.580 take a stand against racism this is what you've heard basically non-stop that the president needs

00:54:59.420 to condemn in the strongest terms uh racism well if that's actually what the request was the

00:55:06.860 president just did that in uh incredibly explicit terms condemned racism said the ideology of hate

00:55:14.780 has no place here said that the internet was a was a big source of this and he wants to go after it

00:55:22.620 uh going after uh he said we will not be powerless in trying to stop this ideology

00:55:29.340 and he condemned racism in the strongest terms you've probably heard him uh do it in so i mean

00:55:34.460 if that was actually a real request it has been fulfilled i i suspect that they'll they the goalposts

00:55:42.060 will be moved on this one uh and now there will be well why aren't you doing x y and z there was a

00:55:48.060 six-part plan the president outlined in response to these shootings uh talked about the doj looking

00:55:55.740 for early warning signs for people being radicalized and potentially turning into shooters he started

00:56:02.060 talking about involving big tech companies and trying to detect these things early that was one two

00:56:07.260 wanted to stop the glorification of violence in our society he cited the video games um that have

00:56:13.260 been cited by you know a lot of uh conservatives and and usually are after shootings uh and the

00:56:18.860 media's glorification in general of these shootings talked about mental health treatment and potential

00:56:24.620 confinement if someone seems to be a high risk the only sort of gun law he mentioned uh one

00:56:33.660 surrounding the gun debate would be the red flag laws this is a extreme risk protection it's a program

00:56:40.220 we've talked about before and it exists in several states basically if someone if a lot of people

00:56:46.140 around somebody are saying this guy is in a major problem here's the evidence that there could be some

00:56:50.940 process to at least temporarily take away their weapons if they are deemed to be a massive uh threat

00:56:58.940 and step six um i guess step six was uh the step five excuse me the federal death penalty

00:57:06.460 uh he wants to make that come back he'd already talked about that already and bringing in uh the

00:57:12.300 opportunity to kill people uh in in a federal uh sense um which obviously the states already have

00:57:18.700 their own laws on that and he talked about doing uh last it was the all ideas that will actually work

00:57:23.420 that was interesting the way he phrased actually uh the emphasis on actually meaning don't bring me

00:57:29.340 the same old crap you do over and over again after these shootings that aren't going to affect them

00:57:33.820 uh he talked about his past accomplishments with school shootings and with the hope of trying to

00:57:40.620 get something bipartisan done and we should you can always talk about whether that's a good idea

00:57:45.660 bipartisan action sometimes uh sounds better than it is in moments of uh national stress we'll get

00:57:53.580 into that in a moment let's take a 60 second break and we'll give you one more quick review before

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00:59:03.420 we have kevin williamson coming up here in just a little while uh and he's going to react to the

00:59:23.740 shooting as well he's got his new book out called the smallest minority it plays into it really ties in

00:59:28.620 well with uh with the conversation going on today a couple things i want to give you quickly how much

00:59:33.180 time do we have we're about a minute um the president brought up his ban of bump stocks and that is

00:59:40.780 interesting um it's obviously used as a positive here um i do not agree that it's a positive i believe

00:59:47.740 that is a an entirely unconstitutional thing that the president has done and i we talked about that in

00:59:54.460 depth at the time you can't just ban things when it comes to firearms in this country it's you know

01:00:01.340 i mean he's been able to do it i do believe it will go up and be challenged in the courts and

01:00:04.960 you know potentially be overturned eventually it's not that i care about bump stocks certainly never

01:00:10.160 going to buy one but this is a incredible it's an incredibly slippery slope we're talking about here

01:00:18.020 and i don't believe it should have been allowed there's also uh reporting in tim alberta's new book

01:00:23.920 this is following the steve scalise shooting says the only unusual part of trump's response to the

01:00:29.900 scalise shooting was his fixation in discussions with doctors at the hospital and later with

01:00:33.660 scalise himself on the size of the bullet there's also the question he posed to friends and aides in

01:00:38.720 the days following the shooting quote should we do gun control the president asked steve can lead the

01:00:44.680 way he's got credibility now end quote you know the the defense of the second amendment has never

01:00:51.740 been central to donald trump's candidacy per se he's had a i would say a really good record when

01:00:57.000 it comes to someone like um gorsuch who i feel very confident in his uh backing there um so far

01:01:04.000 he's holding the line on this i think the phrasing that he said in that uh statement the way he emphasized

01:01:09.960 the word actually when he said i will look at all ideas that will actually work was important the

01:01:16.500 president and his administration seem to be holding the line on this it's it gets tough sometimes but

01:01:21.220 this is when it's most important to have principles

01:01:23.340 jeffrey goldberg the editor-in-chief of the atlantic called kevin williamson one of the most talented

01:01:31.820 conservative writers in america he also said he's not one of the most talented conservative writers in

01:01:37.540 america he's one of the most talented writers in america high praise that could only be followed up

01:01:44.120 just a few days later with and that's why he can't work here

01:01:47.400 kevin williamson is is a fantastic writer uh you know his work from national review and

01:01:54.760 the atlantic for like three days and he joins us now his new book is called

01:01:59.540 the smallest minority independent thinking in the age of mob politics welcome to the show kevin

01:02:04.620 hey how are you pretty good uh it was an interesting uh weekend and speech from president

01:02:11.120 trump uh do you have any uh any reaction as to what uh what the day's events are where the day's

01:02:17.460 events are taking us well i i guess my my only reaction would be from isaiah and uh woe unto them

01:02:25.620 who call evil good i think that um we are at a moment in our national history in which we are

01:02:32.680 almost entirely without moral and intellectual leadership i resist the urge to put the president

01:02:39.460 at the center of national life but it's natural that in times like this people would be looking

01:02:44.160 to him for some clarity and direction at least so far as policy and such things go that of course is

01:02:50.540 lacking because he's a man of no principles and can't really provide clarity for that reason so

01:02:56.340 it's a terrible scene um you know i i live here in dallas where the el paso shooter was from this area

01:03:03.620 and i think that um there's a great deal of sadness and frustration here over that

01:03:09.960 yeah it's really it's really rough and i i you know it's one of those things where it's it's

01:03:16.320 dominating the news uh coverage today and and it's important to talk about it but i i i do want to

01:03:21.560 kind of transition to the book i think you know there is a natural transition here in that you know

01:03:27.360 probably the gun debate is potentially the most tribal thing that goes on in our politics i mean it's you

01:03:33.380 you know you see this immediately after the shooting people don't even take time uh to even

01:03:39.660 understand how many people have have been lost before they're saying either it's about video games or

01:03:46.860 whatever it is on on the right or on the left it's about gun legislation uh do you see that as as maybe

01:03:53.060 the most obvious reflection of what your book kind of covers well i think that um yeah it seems like

01:03:58.980 the press releases are already written they didn't have some on file awaiting to go for these

01:04:02.760 um but there's something else that i get you and um i don't want to uh trivialize uh these shootings

01:04:10.940 by saying that they're the same thing as these you know sort of social media outrage uh episodes

01:04:16.140 because they're not but they have something in common which is um we have a culture in which

01:04:22.120 certain people have come to feel that the only thing really worth having is someone's attention

01:04:27.920 uh what they value above all is celebrity fame notoriety and uh they engage in these

01:04:36.020 performative hysterics and these mass shootings are in that sense um not just acts of terrorism but like

01:04:43.760 all acts of terrorism are also a form of theater they're a way of people trying to draw attention

01:04:49.380 to themselves and to derive from these acts a sense of significance in their lives and uh it's right

01:04:57.640 to understand these things as terrorism but the point of terrorism is to change how people think

01:05:03.640 and feel and act you know terrorism is about beyond the actual act of violence in question it's a larger

01:05:11.700 cultural ramifications and how it influences how people conduct their lives and that's how i think

01:05:17.680 these things need to be understood yeah it strikes me as the because if your goal is to stop mass

01:05:25.060 shootings you probably don't have the right goal right the goal should be to keep protect life in

01:05:31.160 general as as much as you can i think you know the idea that we have a rising incidence of mass shootings

01:05:40.940 in a in an environment where crime is dropping and and murder is dropping is it is is a is a highlight on

01:05:49.660 what you're talking about is that it's really seems to me to be the attention people are seeking

01:05:54.520 and doing things in this way and that is uh that plays i think to the way the media covers these things

01:06:01.860 and it certainly plays to the way people are able to kind of enter small tribes online and let the end

01:06:09.040 and they sort of multiply uh the anger and angst on top of each other does that does that make sense

01:06:14.780 yeah you know the biggest school massacre um in american history i think it's still the biggest one

01:06:20.480 was the one that happened to bath michigan in the early early part of the uh 20th century that didn't

01:06:25.580 involve any firearms at all it was uh dynamite and bombs and it was a fellow who was a frustrated

01:06:31.900 political candidate who um also had some debts and other problems in life that he had political ambitions

01:06:38.220 that he was unable to realize and his uh you know desperate act was a sense of a way to try to draw

01:06:45.080 attention to himself and to show that he was someone who mattered and who should be thought about and

01:06:49.840 who should be considered um when he was unable to get that through politics so part of the alienation

01:06:55.520 i think has to do with some changes in the way we live that not all of us but a lot of us move a lot

01:07:00.640 more than we used to we change employers a lot more than we used to get married later in life we put

01:07:05.980 off parenthood until later in life there's less church attendance so the normal ties and relationships

01:07:13.040 that for a long time gave people a sense of value and meaning in their lives have been either diminished

01:07:18.160 or in some cases entirely eliminated for people and so they're looking for new sources of relationship

01:07:23.120 and context and meaning and unfortunately people have found these on the internet and on social media

01:07:28.760 in uh the worst kind of uh tribalistic politics uh whether it's the you know sort of us and them

01:07:34.780 version of democrats and republicans team red and team blue or some of the more uh extreme and in the end

01:07:41.000 homicidal uh political tendencies that you see on some of the outlying corners of the internet

01:07:46.560 you talk about um the idea of how people choose these these tribes how do they choose these these like groups

01:07:56.760 that they join and i will say and i think i'm completely wrong on this but for a very long

01:08:01.520 time i believed these tribes were chosen essentially with uh with i don't know in the moment sort of

01:08:10.920 objective uh cost benefit right like you're looking at policies that you like policies that you don't like

01:08:16.420 um and you choose sort of your group based on who agrees with you more you make the point in the book

01:08:23.480 that's not at all that is not it at all is it i want it to be it but it's not these are underlying

01:08:28.700 social identities um people don't actually vote in a way that has anything to do with their

01:08:33.800 short-term or near-term economic interest there's a lot of research on this

01:08:37.440 and uh one of the best ways of predicting someone's uh partisan identification is what their parents

01:08:43.620 was uh people inherit these social identities through their families and you see this too and especially

01:08:48.240 on in the northeast where you meet guys who are bankers and uh and you know insurance people and

01:08:54.380 other people you sort of stereotypically think of as being republicans and they're you know lifelong

01:08:58.880 democrats and you ask them why and nine times out of ten the answer is going to be something like

01:09:03.080 well my dad was in the union we were all democrats and that's and that's how that went and i think

01:09:06.620 that's you know perfectly respectable it's a fine reason as any to get your political identity but

01:09:11.320 that's that's it doesn't come from self-interest it doesn't come from economic factors um people

01:09:17.620 often talk about this in a very stupid way in the case of black voters um because black voters tend

01:09:22.340 to identify very strongly with the democratic party and there's this idea that it's because of you know

01:09:26.160 the hope of welfare benefits and that sort of thing but in truth uh as african americans get wealthier

01:09:31.880 as their incomes go up they become much more left-wing um their preferences for redistribution for

01:09:37.640 higher taxes for welfare benefits and things like that actually increase the less likely they are to

01:09:42.920 to benefit from those and this is um you know this is something that's a matter of social identity and

01:09:48.540 how people understand their place in the world and it's about well here's what people like me are like

01:09:54.020 and but the more important part of course is and here's what these other people are like um you know

01:09:58.140 a lot of it's based on just plain opposition that well maybe i don't agree with the democrats on

01:10:02.460 everything but i grew up really not liking these uh conservative people i knew from church and they

01:10:07.500 were very backward and they were very judgmental and so i take my identity as being in opposition

01:10:12.640 to that um that's where a lot of this stuff comes from talking to kevin williamson the smallest

01:10:17.500 minority independent thinking in the age of mob politics is the book um there's something that

01:10:22.020 politicians say all the time and there's a word they use all the time and it's never criticized

01:10:26.140 by anyone in fact when you say it it ends arguments the word of course is democracy uh

01:10:32.240 your take on democracy is a little different than the way i see it portrayed in the media and i think

01:10:38.980 it's the right way of looking at it can you kind of walk us through this sure yeah i'm i'm more with

01:10:44.080 john adams and those guys on this and they they hated the idea of democracy as such of course they

01:10:48.720 meant slightly different things by it than we do so democracy is perfectly not only fine but necessary

01:10:54.860 it's a procedural question it's how we make certain kinds of decisions how we choose

01:10:58.700 representatives in some cases it's how we make our voice heard through referenda and things like that

01:11:04.660 but the idea that something is right or desirable or necessary because 50 plus one of the people

01:11:12.960 believe that is nonsensical and the idea that something becomes more valuable as it becomes more

01:11:18.280 popular or legitimate as it becomes more popular is also nonsensical this is why we have things like

01:11:23.900 written laws and a constitution and a bill of rights you know the bill of rights is the most

01:11:29.000 anti-democratic institution in american life it's the list of 10 things you idiots don't get to vote

01:11:34.060 on um this stuff is settled which is going to of course come up right now with the second amendment

01:11:38.080 especially but um we tend to attribute value to things because they're popular and uh popularity

01:11:46.400 certainly has certain kinds of economic value you know taylor swift's going to make a lot more money

01:11:50.520 than than johan bach will this year she's going to sell a lot more music than he will but um that

01:11:56.200 doesn't necessarily make it better or more desirable or superior so democracy is one little part of

01:12:02.760 something that is more broadly known as liberalism liberalism constitutes you in the rule of law

01:12:07.460 individual rights property freedom of speech independent courts all the rest of these things that make a

01:12:12.940 decent civil uh humane government possible um in some cases the more democratic things get the worse

01:12:19.340 they get and we see this in um in cases where you've got um democratic forms that are being led

01:12:26.060 by these populist demagogues and that's basically how venezuela got into the situation where it is

01:12:30.900 right now uh we've seen things happen like that in countries like india and pakistan and to a lesser

01:12:36.060 extent the united states we've mostly been lucky on that front but not always uh you talk about the

01:12:41.280 second amendment and certainly that's going to be coming up uh for massive debate here in the next few

01:12:46.420 days you also talk a lot about in the book about the first amendment and and one of the one of the

01:12:51.880 phrases that you again another conversation ender when you say hey look you can't shout fire in a

01:12:58.140 crowded theater that's supposed to mean well whatever speech i'm against at this moment is okay for me to

01:13:04.020 censor can you kind of go into that why what why do people misunderstand what that means that one is

01:13:09.980 one of the worst it's one of the dumbest cliches that's really enabled a lot of uh a lot of oppression

01:13:14.940 so this came out of the supreme court argument in which the court was trying to decide whether we

01:13:21.160 could lock up the head of the socialist party for protesting uh world war one and the idea behind

01:13:27.460 fire in a crowded theater was well if this guy is allowed to speak this way people will riot there

01:13:33.200 will be uh you know civil unrest and so essentially this is just as holmes coming up with a legal

01:13:40.480 rationale for the heckler's veto for saying that the problem isn't the speech um the problem or rather

01:13:46.400 the problem isn't the fact that people are going to commit violence in reaction to the speech but the

01:13:50.440 speech itself so it's a pretext for censoring things that we don't want to hear because they're

01:13:55.320 unpopular and this is a really interesting thing for where we are as a country right now because we've got

01:13:59.540 really good first amendment jurisprudence right now thanks to some really really good judicial

01:14:03.280 appointments the first amendment legally it's probably never been in better shape but there's

01:14:07.780 a cultural question there too and these things feed on one another and so to the extent that we

01:14:13.140 think of certain ideas as being unutterable as being uh outside of what should be protected

01:14:18.720 um then these things can eventually be squeezed out of what's protected by the first amendment this is

01:14:25.080 where the idea of hate speech comes in that well we want to protect political speech

01:14:29.380 unless we really really don't like it in which case we're going to call it something else and it's

01:14:32.720 not protected and of course the whole idea of the first amendment is to protect speech which is

01:14:37.640 controversial and unpopular and marginal because if it weren't it would need protection in the first

01:14:42.760 place because no one would be trying to censor it so these things kind of feed off of one another

01:14:46.840 what's considered culturally undoable is part of how things get defined in places like canada and

01:14:53.760 austria and germany where they've got more invasive speech rules than we have here in the united states

01:14:59.060 but also how people here in the united states uh foresee a future regime of which you've got

01:15:04.260 hate speech laws more uh controls on political speech to what we euphemistically call campaign

01:15:09.900 finance law and those sorts of things so they they feed off of one another and that's an important

01:15:14.600 thing i think to keep in mind that anytime you're putting something outside the realm of what should

01:15:19.780 be protected that's what you're really setting yourself up for is uh is a future regime of censorship

01:15:24.440 does it worry you that the the they're already talking about the doj looking into ways to partner

01:15:30.300 with big tech firms to to crack down on on this sort of speech i mean nobody you know look nobody's

01:15:37.260 going to stand up i think more than conservatives to say uh you know uh white nationalism uh especially

01:15:42.920 as a government ideology which you know is just implied you have gigantic government to enforce these

01:15:47.900 types of things i mean it's just it's just totally against what conservatives want um absolutely fine

01:15:53.960 we should all stand up against white supremacy and this sort of speech but that's what ideas when it

01:15:58.840 comes to government trying to implement laws to stop this that that is i hate to use the slippery slope

01:16:04.780 thing but it's terrifying well and the slope is slippery for reasons that people don't understand you

01:16:10.240 know corporations like one size fit all solutions they like to have uniformity and homogeneity

01:16:15.360 and the problem with that is that companies like facebook and google and twitter and others are

01:16:20.720 global they are international and it's tempting for them to take the most restrictive standard and make

01:16:27.160 that their default position the same way that california essentially sets automotive emissions rules for the

01:16:32.220 rest of the country um so in places like germany austria much of western europe but also singapore

01:16:38.260 china and some other places they have a whole different culture about free speech and they have a whole

01:16:42.900 different set of rules and assumptions now western europe is pretty liberal and it's democratic of

01:16:47.480 course but they've also got um rules about political speech and certain kinds of political organizing i get

01:16:52.700 into this extensively in the book um that just simply wouldn't be acceptable in the united states

01:16:57.340 under the first amendment they have a theory called militant democracy and this is the idea under which

01:17:01.860 they ban certain kinds of political speech they prohibit certain kinds of political parties you know in

01:17:06.740 austria you can theoretically go to prison for 25 years for selling someone a copy of mind comp

01:17:11.320 um now i don't think mind comp is a great book i don't want to lock people up for reading it either

01:17:16.440 and um now in the united states we think of these things as being crazy and we wouldn't accept that

01:17:22.100 these are not you know these are not crazy uncivilized countries yeah this is what's in europe we're

01:17:26.260 talking about yeah um kevin we're up against the break here we gotta we gotta call it here but

01:17:30.180 the smallest minority independent thinking in the age of mob politics much better than mind comp i can tell you

01:17:35.320 that right now you can get it in bookstores everywhere kevin thanks for being on the program

01:17:38.680 thanks so much

01:17:39.880 the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenbeck program

01:17:48.240 we see the violence and why don't we care

01:17:53.260 why don't we do something why don't we act

01:17:58.480 why is it that these things happen over and over and over again and

01:18:04.500 we never seem to do anything why don't we care

01:18:08.760 you probably saw this posted at some version of it in your facebook feed this weekend

01:18:14.640 or on any sort of social media where people reacted to the shootings

01:18:19.480 and i don't know if people realize how insulting it is or maybe that's the purpose

01:18:28.160 what you're really of course asking

01:18:32.420 is something completely different we you know we care of course we care

01:18:38.520 we all care in fact one of the things we say when we really care about something

01:18:45.300 is we pray for it if you happen to be a person of faith

01:18:48.760 but we're told now that that's either not enough or something we shouldn't do at all

01:18:55.220 and kamala harris's words this weekend no more thoughts and prayers we need action

01:19:00.740 so you're no longer able to pray about it you're not even able to think about it anymore

01:19:07.100 if kamala has her preference

01:19:09.600 so other than praying

01:19:13.300 other than thinking

01:19:15.880 because you don't want to think in a situation like this that's always a bad outcome

01:19:20.140 what do you do

01:19:21.440 why don't we care what we do care

01:19:25.320 why won't we do something well what are you really asking

01:19:28.240 what you're asking is why don't we do the thing that you want

01:19:31.600 why don't we do the thing that you want the government to do

01:19:36.040 why don't we just agree with you

01:19:39.140 that's what the people on your feet are really asking

01:19:43.060 why don't you see

01:19:45.880 why hasn't the emotion overwhelmed you like it's overwhelmed me

01:19:50.840 we're all emotional about a situation like this of course

01:19:54.080 but it is our job as citizens of the united states of america

01:19:58.540 to not let emotion overwhelm a sober decision making process

01:20:04.540 we have seen some really bad things in american history

01:20:08.980 which have been born out of emotional distress leading to policy

01:20:15.860 this is why we have a constitution with amendments

01:20:21.520 as kevin williamson pointed out last hour

01:20:24.020 these are the things you can't change with just democracy

01:20:27.420 or popularity

01:20:29.040 you have to do more

01:20:31.300 these are the principles that our society stands on

01:20:34.540 and some of the things they want to do

01:20:37.880 would make no difference

01:20:39.820 or worse

01:20:41.260 we're going to go through

01:20:44.200 some of the most common things said

01:20:46.440 on your facebook page

01:20:47.900 or your social media page of any sort

01:20:50.240 this weekend

01:20:50.900 and give you the facts

01:20:53.020 so you know how to defend the second amendment

01:20:55.360 and you know

01:20:57.060 how to defend the truth

01:20:58.920 we start there

01:21:00.460 in 60 seconds

01:21:01.540 this is the glenbeck program

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01:22:06.800 so one of the things

01:22:17.960 you'll probably be hearing

01:22:18.980 in the coming days

01:22:20.660 if you haven't heard it already

01:22:21.680 is a bunch of arguments

01:22:24.240 as to why this incident means

01:22:26.520 we need new gun control measures

01:22:28.300 and the gun control measures

01:22:30.200 will be popped up there

01:22:31.140 some of them are very popular

01:22:32.240 like universal background checks

01:22:33.500 which basically already exist

01:22:35.100 the people posting that

01:22:36.660 probably don't know that

01:22:38.020 you also see things like

01:22:39.280 an assault weapons ban

01:22:40.540 lots of things that are

01:22:42.200 kind of thrown out there

01:22:43.260 as if they would have solved

01:22:44.760 any of these incidents

01:22:45.640 now of course we all know

01:22:46.900 that there is

01:22:47.700 I mean if you look

01:22:48.960 if you happen to be looking

01:22:50.740 at the two incidents

01:22:51.780 from this weekend

01:22:52.460 in Dayton, Ohio

01:22:53.320 and El Paso

01:22:54.780 none of the proposed measures

01:22:56.980 would do anything

01:22:58.440 to stop these incidents

01:23:00.420 they may change them slightly

01:23:02.580 and we'll get into those details

01:23:03.680 here in a second

01:23:04.240 but they're not going to do

01:23:05.200 anything to stop them

01:23:06.200 likely the exact same outcome

01:23:08.600 sadly would have been the case

01:23:10.120 but one thing you'll hear

01:23:12.080 over and over again

01:23:13.020 is

01:23:13.740 you know

01:23:14.660 you keep saying

01:23:15.880 that it's very difficult

01:23:16.820 to do things

01:23:17.420 you can't do anything

01:23:18.260 about this

01:23:18.820 there's a popular meme

01:23:19.840 that goes around

01:23:20.420 that says

01:23:20.800 hey

01:23:21.740 there's just nothing

01:23:23.060 that can be done

01:23:24.060 says the only country

01:23:26.380 in the world

01:23:26.980 where it happens

01:23:27.780 and many people

01:23:30.600 will bring up the idea

01:23:31.400 that we hear about

01:23:32.180 these mass shootings

01:23:32.920 all the time

01:23:33.560 in the United States

01:23:34.220 they're happening

01:23:34.720 all the time

01:23:35.420 and we never hear

01:23:36.620 about them anywhere else

01:23:37.460 we never hear

01:23:38.280 about them anywhere else

01:23:38.980 these other countries

01:23:39.680 don't have these problems

01:23:41.100 at least not as often

01:23:44.100 maybe every once in a while

01:23:45.560 but not as often

01:23:46.740 well we have to start

01:23:49.080 with that particular argument

01:23:50.860 in a very basic place

01:23:52.340 and this one's going to be

01:23:53.600 confusing to many

01:23:54.800 and once

01:23:56.280 if you can't get them

01:23:57.440 over this hump

01:23:58.020 it might be time

01:23:58.800 to turn the argument off

01:23:59.780 but the United States

01:24:03.240 is larger

01:24:04.840 than many of the countries

01:24:06.060 you're discussing

01:24:06.720 so the idea

01:24:08.440 that you haven't heard

01:24:09.460 about a mass shooting

01:24:10.200 for a while

01:24:10.880 in a country

01:24:12.000 with one-twentieth

01:24:13.040 the population

01:24:13.860 is not notable

01:24:15.680 it's not something

01:24:18.760 that you would

01:24:19.420 be interested

01:24:20.640 in mentioning

01:24:21.460 because you shouldn't

01:24:24.080 hear about them

01:24:24.780 as often

01:24:25.380 as you hear about them

01:24:26.080 in the United States

01:24:26.840 the way they control

01:24:27.540 for this of course

01:24:28.360 is a per capita

01:24:29.720 count

01:24:30.740 so you look at

01:24:31.800 okay

01:24:32.380 you know

01:24:33.540 as far as the population

01:24:34.720 how many people

01:24:35.360 are dying in mass shootings

01:24:36.600 the first thing

01:24:37.520 of course you'll come to

01:24:38.300 is that the number one

01:24:39.480 overall ratio

01:24:40.420 by a pretty large margin

01:24:41.820 is Norway

01:24:42.580 Norway's per capita rate

01:24:45.660 is much higher

01:24:46.620 than the United States

01:24:47.540 and they're not alone

01:24:48.660 Norway of course

01:24:49.940 had the worst

01:24:50.700 mass shooting

01:24:51.380 in world history

01:24:53.000 where I think

01:24:53.480 it was 91 people

01:24:55.440 something like that

01:24:56.200 it was in the 90s

01:24:57.020 were shot and killed

01:24:58.600 and it was

01:24:59.140 one bombing

01:25:00.860 a couple bombings

01:25:01.720 and a bunch of shooting

01:25:03.240 many of them children

01:25:04.460 one of the worst incidents

01:25:05.520 in you know

01:25:06.380 in history

01:25:07.240 now I say

01:25:07.880 that it's one of the worst

01:25:08.620 incidents in history

01:25:09.640 and one of the worst

01:25:10.180 mass shootings in history

01:25:11.040 of course

01:25:11.440 I'm eliminating

01:25:12.900 every single government

01:25:16.740 shooting

01:25:18.220 which of course

01:25:19.500 they have all the records

01:25:20.500 all the records

01:25:21.860 come from the government

01:25:22.780 all governments

01:25:24.260 I mean if you want

01:25:25.060 to look at the top

01:25:25.660 thousand

01:25:26.120 you're not going to

01:25:27.100 find any individuals

01:25:28.120 there

01:25:28.640 if you want to go

01:25:30.160 through the top

01:25:31.020 ten thousand

01:25:31.840 maybe you start seeing

01:25:32.780 one or two individuals

01:25:33.780 worked in there

01:25:34.400 the government

01:25:35.460 is of course

01:25:36.380 responsible for all

01:25:37.600 the biggest mass shootings

01:25:38.640 in human history

01:25:39.420 mostly in regimes

01:25:41.000 which were utilizing

01:25:43.200 the form of government

01:25:44.400 you're currently advocating

01:25:45.620 for

01:25:46.000 socialism

01:25:47.080 so the idea

01:25:49.320 that you guys

01:25:50.100 have the solution

01:25:50.780 on this one

01:25:51.500 it's a little bit

01:25:52.020 off

01:25:52.260 it's a little bit

01:25:53.180 off-putting

01:25:53.840 but you know

01:25:56.300 maybe your friends

01:25:57.160 aren't completely insane

01:25:58.180 maybe they're not

01:25:58.760 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

01:26:00.460 and they want

01:26:01.600 they just might not

01:26:03.040 know the details

01:26:03.760 of these situations

01:26:04.620 for example

01:26:05.440 they might say

01:26:06.000 well what about

01:26:06.500 something like

01:26:06.960 Australia

01:26:07.500 why don't we do

01:26:08.780 something like

01:26:09.160 we're doing

01:26:09.500 we're doing

01:26:10.480 in Australia

01:26:11.020 and we can get

01:26:12.820 into that as well

01:26:13.480 but even New Zealand

01:26:14.740 now New Zealand

01:26:15.620 is one of these

01:26:16.120 countries that

01:26:16.720 you remember

01:26:17.140 this big mass

01:26:17.760 shooting they had

01:26:18.320 they had a major

01:26:19.020 change

01:26:19.660 in their laws

01:26:21.240 when they had

01:26:22.440 a mass shooting

01:26:23.060 and they had

01:26:23.680 they actually

01:26:24.320 changed it

01:26:24.700 the last time

01:26:25.160 they had a mass

01:26:25.580 shooting too

01:26:26.040 which was I

01:26:26.680 believe 1990

01:26:27.580 but you were

01:26:29.580 about 4.3

01:26:31.620 times as likely

01:26:32.840 to be killed

01:26:33.860 in a mass

01:26:34.460 shooting

01:26:34.800 in New Zealand

01:26:35.940 than you are

01:26:37.140 in the United States

01:26:38.060 does New Zealand

01:26:40.620 seem like this

01:26:41.300 dangerous gun

01:26:42.260 toting culture

01:26:43.160 they have a lot

01:26:44.260 a lot more

01:26:45.080 restrictive laws

01:26:46.000 in New Zealand

01:26:46.700 even before this

01:26:47.580 change than they

01:26:48.320 do here in the

01:26:48.960 United States

01:26:49.640 you're about

01:26:50.580 4.3 times

01:26:52.120 as likely

01:26:52.540 to be killed

01:26:53.080 there in a

01:26:53.500 mass shooting

01:26:53.880 than you are

01:26:54.280 here

01:26:54.560 now if you say

01:26:55.900 okay well that's

01:26:56.580 just including

01:26:57.080 a giant shooting

01:26:57.900 you just had

01:26:58.720 you gotta take

01:26:59.140 that one out

01:26:59.800 okay let's

01:27:00.700 take that one

01:27:01.240 out

01:27:01.500 you're still

01:27:02.620 1.7 times

01:27:04.120 as likely

01:27:04.680 to be killed

01:27:05.380 in a mass

01:27:05.860 shooting in New

01:27:06.520 Zealand as you

01:27:07.060 are in the

01:27:07.580 United States

01:27:08.260 even if you

01:27:09.620 exclude the

01:27:10.640 shooting

01:27:11.100 that just

01:27:13.420 happened

01:27:13.780 and the mass

01:27:14.700 shooting in New

01:27:15.180 Zealand in 1990

01:27:16.000 you're still

01:27:16.920 more likely

01:27:17.740 slightly

01:27:18.680 to be killed

01:27:19.360 in a mass

01:27:19.760 shooting in New

01:27:20.240 Zealand in the

01:27:20.720 United States

01:27:21.380 the fact that

01:27:23.080 you don't hear

01:27:23.680 about lots of

01:27:24.340 shootings in New

01:27:25.100 Zealand is

01:27:25.560 because there's

01:27:25.980 not a lot of

01:27:26.300 people in New

01:27:26.840 Zealand to do

01:27:27.360 them

01:27:27.600 there are many

01:27:30.680 countries and

01:27:31.420 the US is about

01:27:32.640 in the middle of

01:27:33.280 the pack when it

01:27:33.880 comes to per capita

01:27:34.980 death when it

01:27:35.540 comes to mass

01:27:36.040 shooting

01:27:36.300 we have a lot

01:27:37.460 of high profile

01:27:38.080 ones

01:27:38.580 we praise them

01:27:40.140 we publicize

01:27:42.620 these guys

01:27:43.020 manifestos like

01:27:43.900 crazy

01:27:44.320 the media

01:27:46.440 did a lot

01:27:46.840 of that

01:27:47.020 today

01:27:47.220 they forgot

01:27:47.760 about the

01:27:48.400 left-wing

01:27:48.820 parts of it

01:27:49.340 for some

01:27:49.680 reason

01:27:49.940 but they

01:27:50.200 got a lot

01:27:50.560 of the

01:27:50.720 right-wing

01:27:50.980 parts in

01:27:51.400 there

01:27:51.560 and I

01:27:52.040 completely

01:27:52.600 dismiss by

01:27:53.280 the way

01:27:53.540 and

01:27:53.900 reject

01:27:57.760 with entirety

01:27:59.220 and impunity

01:28:00.280 the idea

01:28:00.800 that racism

01:28:02.080 is a right-wing

01:28:02.900 ideology

01:28:03.500 but I'm

01:28:04.080 quoting the

01:28:04.600 media here

01:28:05.080 so it's

01:28:07.220 important to

01:28:07.680 understand the

01:28:08.520 context

01:28:09.160 what about

01:28:10.180 Australia though

01:28:10.740 they did a lot

01:28:11.260 Australia did

01:28:12.520 a lot of

01:28:12.980 this stuff

01:28:13.380 they took

01:28:13.720 away some

01:28:14.160 of these

01:28:14.440 some of

01:28:16.220 these assault

01:28:17.000 weapons

01:28:17.380 that's the

01:28:17.780 big problem

01:28:18.220 is these

01:28:18.480 assault

01:28:18.880 weapons

01:28:19.300 it's not

01:28:19.960 even just

01:28:20.260 guns

01:28:20.580 it's these

01:28:20.900 assault

01:28:21.260 weapons

01:28:21.660 my wife

01:28:22.400 got in a

01:28:22.720 big fight

01:28:23.020 over this

01:28:23.380 over the

01:28:23.700 weekend

01:28:23.980 I'm gonna

01:28:24.800 bring her

01:28:25.320 on later

01:28:25.620 because she

01:28:26.020 has to

01:28:26.280 tell you

01:28:26.500 this story

01:28:26.900 and it's

01:28:27.640 one of

01:28:27.780 these things

01:28:28.060 where

01:28:28.340 you know

01:28:29.220 people will

01:28:29.660 just say

01:28:29.900 well I

01:28:30.180 want these

01:28:30.820 automatic

01:28:31.180 weapons

01:28:31.520 off the

01:28:31.780 streets

01:28:32.000 well automatic

01:28:32.580 weapons

01:28:32.900 have been

01:28:33.280 illegal for

01:28:33.840 a long

01:28:34.100 time here

01:28:34.500 in the

01:28:34.680 United

01:28:34.840 States

01:28:35.240 you know

01:28:35.720 40 years

01:28:36.260 did you

01:28:36.540 mean

01:28:36.740 semi

01:28:37.100 automatic

01:28:37.440 what did

01:28:37.780 you mean

01:28:38.220 by that

01:28:39.300 and typically

01:28:40.400 that will

01:28:41.200 get people

01:28:41.880 angry

01:28:42.540 they'll act

01:28:43.460 as if you're

01:28:43.860 trying to

01:28:44.760 catch them

01:28:45.360 on some

01:28:45.760 technicality

01:28:46.560 well the

01:28:47.100 difference

01:28:47.360 between an

01:28:48.280 automatic

01:28:48.660 weapon

01:28:48.920 and a

01:28:49.180 semi

01:28:49.360 automatic

01:28:49.640 weapon

01:28:49.920 is not

01:28:50.240 a

01:28:50.380 technicality

01:28:50.980 it's a

01:28:51.180 big deal

01:28:51.620 but Australia

01:28:52.980 did take

01:28:53.620 away

01:28:54.040 some guns

01:28:55.000 it wasn't

01:28:55.500 just

01:28:55.860 taking away

01:28:56.460 guns

01:28:56.680 it wasn't

01:28:57.000 just sensible

01:28:57.720 gun control

01:28:58.440 legislation

01:28:59.400 they did

01:29:02.600 a lot of

01:29:03.300 stuff

01:29:03.580 they made

01:29:04.440 it tougher

01:29:04.720 to get a

01:29:05.040 license

01:29:05.320 they tightened

01:29:05.880 the ownership

01:29:06.520 rules

01:29:07.060 they made

01:29:07.900 people

01:29:08.200 demonstrate

01:29:08.720 a genuine

01:29:09.420 need

01:29:09.940 for their

01:29:10.300 guns

01:29:10.640 they made

01:29:11.940 them take

01:29:12.320 firearm

01:29:12.760 safety

01:29:13.200 courses

01:29:13.600 and they

01:29:14.300 launched

01:29:14.640 the

01:29:14.980 well

01:29:15.340 publicized

01:29:16.040 gun

01:29:16.520 buyback

01:29:17.180 program

01:29:17.740 and you know

01:29:19.440 gun buyback

01:29:20.000 is a bad

01:29:20.620 way of stating

01:29:21.080 it

01:29:21.220 confiscate

01:29:22.540 and compensate

01:29:23.160 they forced

01:29:23.940 you to

01:29:24.180 they just

01:29:24.780 took them

01:29:25.180 yeah they gave

01:29:25.860 you a little

01:29:26.100 bit of cash

01:29:26.620 too but

01:29:27.040 you lost

01:29:27.580 a lot

01:29:27.880 there

01:29:28.160 so how

01:29:29.880 did that

01:29:30.120 actually

01:29:30.540 work

01:29:31.500 2008 study

01:29:33.520 from the

01:29:33.800 University of

01:29:34.300 Melbourne

01:29:34.540 concluded

01:29:35.380 that quote

01:29:36.080 there is

01:29:36.520 little evidence

01:29:37.160 to suggest

01:29:37.760 that the

01:29:38.080 Australian

01:29:38.440 mandatory

01:29:38.900 gun

01:29:39.260 buyback

01:29:39.600 program

01:29:39.980 had any

01:29:41.080 significant

01:29:41.820 effect

01:29:42.420 on firearm

01:29:43.240 homicides

01:29:44.000 another study

01:29:45.400 concluded

01:29:46.060 something similar

01:29:46.800 the gun

01:29:47.640 buyback

01:29:48.140 and restrictive

01:29:48.740 legislative

01:29:49.300 changes

01:29:49.780 had quote

01:29:51.060 no influence

01:29:52.800 on firearm

01:29:54.180 homicide

01:29:54.660 in Australia

01:29:55.520 now of course

01:29:57.680 they took

01:29:58.160 about between

01:29:59.000 20 and 35

01:29:59.800 percent of the

01:30:00.880 country's

01:30:01.800 firearms

01:30:02.360 it's a lot

01:30:03.480 of money

01:30:03.800 and a lot

01:30:04.320 of guns

01:30:04.800 also

01:30:05.460 completely

01:30:06.020 unconstitutional

01:30:06.940 here in the

01:30:07.460 United States

01:30:07.980 if you wanted

01:30:08.380 to implement

01:30:08.820 it you'd have

01:30:09.440 to amend

01:30:09.760 the constitution

01:30:10.380 we'll get into

01:30:10.840 that in a little

01:30:11.400 bit as well

01:30:12.000 but if you're

01:30:14.620 going to confiscate

01:30:15.420 60 or 100

01:30:16.100 million guns

01:30:16.640 that's a lot

01:30:17.060 of guns

01:30:17.440 also still

01:30:18.420 leaves about

01:30:18.880 300 million

01:30:19.580 of them on

01:30:19.920 the street

01:30:20.300 so I don't

01:30:20.700 know what

01:30:20.900 you're doing

01:30:21.180 with those

01:30:21.640 well what

01:30:25.380 about just

01:30:25.900 banning

01:30:26.400 assault weapons

01:30:27.160 because people

01:30:28.000 say it works

01:30:28.620 in other

01:30:28.900 countries

01:30:29.360 why wouldn't

01:30:30.360 it work

01:30:30.640 here

01:30:30.960 well if it

01:30:31.700 works in

01:30:32.000 other

01:30:32.140 countries

01:30:32.520 can you

01:30:33.500 just let

01:30:34.100 me know

01:30:34.380 which one

01:30:34.760 in similar

01:30:35.140 circumstances

01:30:35.680 it's worked

01:30:36.160 in

01:30:36.360 because a lot

01:30:38.260 of people

01:30:38.520 point out

01:30:39.320 well Sweden

01:30:40.300 well New

01:30:42.060 Zealand

01:30:42.540 well we've

01:30:43.200 looked at New

01:30:43.600 Zealand already

01:30:44.120 that one

01:30:44.420 didn't work

01:30:44.700 out too

01:30:44.980 well for

01:30:45.320 you

01:30:45.520 people will

01:30:47.800 bring up

01:30:48.200 all sorts

01:30:48.580 of countries

01:30:49.060 but rarely

01:30:49.520 can they

01:30:49.820 find one

01:30:50.160 that's even

01:30:50.520 close to

01:30:51.180 similar to

01:30:51.640 ours

01:30:52.040 it's either

01:30:53.120 a authoritarian

01:30:54.360 iron fist

01:30:57.240 ruling the

01:30:57.760 country

01:30:58.080 where their

01:30:59.340 massacres

01:30:59.880 come from

01:31:00.460 the top

01:31:01.000 instead of

01:31:01.740 the bottom

01:31:02.140 or their

01:31:03.880 tiny countries

01:31:04.660 with homogeneous

01:31:05.440 sort of

01:31:05.900 populations

01:31:06.400 that have

01:31:07.180 per capita

01:31:09.320 rates that

01:31:09.760 many times

01:31:10.240 are higher

01:31:10.700 than the

01:31:11.040 United States

01:31:11.600 so does

01:31:13.020 this actually

01:31:13.600 work

01:31:14.060 well I

01:31:16.800 have I

01:31:17.240 found a

01:31:17.760 country that's

01:31:18.200 very similar

01:31:18.740 to the United

01:31:19.140 States

01:31:19.480 and it

01:31:20.660 took me a

01:31:21.520 while to

01:31:21.820 kind of dig

01:31:22.120 it up

01:31:22.300 because

01:31:22.500 we're kind

01:31:23.200 of unique

01:31:23.540 we're kind

01:31:23.840 of awesome

01:31:24.180 so I

01:31:24.860 found one

01:31:25.280 though that

01:31:25.620 did implement

01:31:26.720 a policy

01:31:27.120 like this

01:31:27.620 and we

01:31:28.180 have a

01:31:28.480 real test

01:31:29.180 a real

01:31:29.460 world test

01:31:29.940 as to how

01:31:30.280 it worked

01:31:30.600 out

01:31:30.800 the country

01:31:31.620 is called

01:31:31.980 the United

01:31:32.940 States

01:31:33.460 we already

01:31:35.600 tried this

01:31:36.460 everybody

01:31:37.120 does everybody

01:31:38.220 remember the

01:31:38.980 assault weapons

01:31:39.580 ban

01:31:39.880 this happened

01:31:40.800 of course

01:31:41.120 in the 90s

01:31:42.080 and then they

01:31:43.680 had to look

01:31:44.060 back and see

01:31:44.740 you know

01:31:45.220 how did it

01:31:45.860 work

01:31:46.260 10 years

01:31:47.920 it lasted

01:31:48.460 an entire

01:31:49.180 decade

01:31:49.760 of banning

01:31:50.580 assault weapons

01:31:51.280 how did that

01:31:52.260 work

01:31:52.620 here's what

01:31:53.780 the report

01:31:54.160 said

01:31:54.520 quote

01:31:54.920 although the

01:31:56.020 ban has

01:31:56.720 been successful

01:31:57.580 in reducing

01:31:58.400 crimes with

01:31:59.260 assault weapons

01:32:00.100 any benefits

01:32:01.860 from this

01:32:02.280 reduction

01:32:02.720 are likely

01:32:03.740 to have

01:32:04.060 been outweighed

01:32:04.820 by steady

01:32:05.420 or rising

01:32:06.160 use of

01:32:06.760 non-banned

01:32:07.700 semi-automatics

01:32:08.660 with large

01:32:09.380 capacity magazines

01:32:10.360 which are used

01:32:11.000 in crime

01:32:11.400 more frequently

01:32:12.120 than assault

01:32:13.640 weapons

01:32:14.180 quote unquote

01:32:14.660 therefore we

01:32:16.380 cannot clearly

01:32:16.880 credit the ban

01:32:17.440 with any

01:32:18.040 of the nation's

01:32:18.820 recent drop

01:32:19.320 in gun violence

01:32:19.980 and indeed

01:32:20.580 there has been

01:32:21.100 no discernible

01:32:22.140 reduction

01:32:22.560 in the lethality

01:32:23.380 and injuriousness

01:32:24.900 of gun violence

01:32:26.240 based on

01:32:26.740 indicators like

01:32:27.460 the percentage

01:32:27.980 of gun crimes

01:32:28.840 resulting in

01:32:29.340 the death

01:32:29.620 or share

01:32:30.180 of gunfire

01:32:31.300 incidents

01:32:31.760 resulting in

01:32:33.160 injury

01:32:33.520 as we might

01:32:34.260 have expected

01:32:34.740 had the ban

01:32:35.680 reduced crimes

01:32:36.380 with both

01:32:37.000 automatic weapons

01:32:38.140 and large

01:32:39.120 capacity magazines

01:32:40.080 the author

01:32:42.240 of the study

01:32:42.560 went on to say

01:32:43.140 quote

01:32:43.460 in general

01:32:43.980 we found

01:32:44.500 really

01:32:44.940 very

01:32:45.760 very little

01:32:46.980 evidence

01:32:47.480 almost none

01:32:49.000 that gun violence

01:32:50.160 was becoming

01:32:50.660 any less lethal

01:32:51.600 or any less

01:32:52.120 injurious

01:32:52.660 during this

01:32:53.140 time frame

01:32:53.700 so on balance

01:32:54.680 we concluded

01:32:55.400 that the ban

01:32:56.620 had not had

01:32:57.640 a discernible

01:32:59.320 impact

01:33:00.000 on gun crime

01:33:01.300 during the years

01:33:01.820 it was in effect

01:33:02.440 it did not have

01:33:05.440 a discernible

01:33:06.360 impact

01:33:06.940 we already

01:33:07.920 tried

01:33:08.940 the policy

01:33:10.020 and for large

01:33:12.820 capacity magazines

01:33:13.700 are you kidding me

01:33:14.340 you could

01:33:15.260 you could

01:33:15.560 order heroin

01:33:16.920 on the internet

01:33:17.440 you're telling me

01:33:17.900 a little piece

01:33:18.880 of plastic

01:33:19.400 with a spring

01:33:20.080 inside

01:33:20.520 is going to be

01:33:20.920 hard for people

01:33:21.380 to manufacture

01:33:21.940 you can't

01:33:23.040 ban these

01:33:23.480 things

01:33:23.740 they'll just

01:33:24.060 make them

01:33:24.560 this is

01:33:26.280 insanity

01:33:27.260 but we'll

01:33:28.300 give a little

01:33:28.640 more preview

01:33:29.320 as to the

01:33:30.060 vision of a

01:33:30.880 gun-free

01:33:31.380 America

01:33:31.880 coming up

01:33:32.860 in 60 seconds

01:33:33.800 warning

01:33:39.500 warning

01:33:39.540 if you're buried

01:33:40.600 in debt

01:33:41.100 you can't

01:33:41.680 afford

01:33:42.040 do not

01:33:42.860 let the

01:33:43.240 credit card

01:33:43.760 companies

01:33:44.160 make you

01:33:44.540 think you

01:33:44.980 have to

01:33:45.260 pay it

01:33:45.540 all back

01:33:46.120 because

01:33:46.700 you don't

01:33:47.900 what the

01:33:48.440 credit card

01:33:48.980 companies

01:33:49.360 don't want

01:33:49.880 you to

01:33:50.100 know

01:33:50.360 is that

01:33:50.900 there's

01:33:51.120 actually

01:33:51.460 a way

01:33:51.760 to get

01:33:52.080 debt

01:33:52.380 free

01:33:52.700 without

01:33:53.180 paying off

01:33:53.780 your

01:33:53.940 entire

01:33:54.320 debt

01:33:54.780 or

01:33:55.380 going

01:33:55.700 bankrupt

01:33:56.180 if you

01:33:57.040 have

01:33:57.240 $10,000

01:33:57.940 or more

01:33:58.640 in credit

01:33:59.060 card debt

01:33:59.560 you now

01:34:00.360 have the

01:34:00.700 right to

01:34:01.040 let us

01:34:01.420 settle

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01:34:59.500 on the

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01:35:00.360 so you

01:35:01.200 want to

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01:35:01.540 of guns

01:35:01.960 you want

01:35:02.380 to say

01:35:02.720 hey

01:35:02.980 let's

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01:35:03.360 gun

01:35:03.480 free

01:35:03.640 society

01:35:04.100 everyone

01:35:04.440 else

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01:35:04.860 it

01:35:05.000 why

01:35:05.220 don't

01:35:05.360 we

01:35:05.500 do

01:35:05.680 it

01:35:05.820 it's

01:35:06.380 super

01:35:06.860 easy

01:35:07.220 to do

01:35:07.740 and I

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01:35:08.400 you through

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01:35:08.900 steps

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01:35:09.520 reason.com

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01:35:15.120 just how

01:35:15.860 easy

01:35:16.520 that would

01:35:17.380 be

01:35:17.640 listen

01:35:18.340 life

01:35:19.460 life hack

01:35:19.760 a gun

01:35:20.460 free

01:35:20.620 America

01:35:21.040 in

01:35:21.400 five

01:35:21.800 easy

01:35:22.100 steps

01:35:22.600 for a

01:35:23.660 gun

01:35:23.800 free

01:35:23.960 America

01:35:24.340 the first

01:35:24.940 thing

01:35:25.140 you'll

01:35:25.340 need

01:35:25.580 is

01:35:25.820 two

01:35:26.080 thirds

01:35:26.380 of

01:35:26.600 Congress

01:35:27.040 so elect

01:35:27.780 a minimum

01:35:28.160 of 67

01:35:28.960 senators

01:35:29.500 and

01:35:29.820 290

01:35:30.440 representatives

01:35:31.080 who are

01:35:31.480 on your

01:35:31.800 side

01:35:32.160 then

01:35:33.020 have

01:35:33.300 them

01:35:33.460 vote

01:35:33.640 to

01:35:33.780 propose

01:35:34.080 an

01:35:34.260 amendment

01:35:34.520 to

01:35:34.720 the

01:35:34.860 constitution

01:35:35.460 which

01:35:36.000 repeals

01:35:36.580 second

01:35:36.880 amendment

01:35:37.180 gun

01:35:37.460 rights

01:35:37.720 for

01:35:37.920 all

01:35:38.380 Americans

01:35:38.900 then

01:35:40.000 convince

01:35:40.420 the

01:35:40.620 legislators

01:35:41.060 of 38

01:35:41.820 states

01:35:42.260 to

01:35:42.660 ratify

01:35:43.100 that

01:35:43.340 amendment

01:35:43.720 congratulations

01:35:44.980 the second

01:35:46.200 amendment

01:35:46.580 is now

01:35:47.340 history

01:35:47.880 at this

01:35:48.640 point

01:35:48.880 you've

01:35:49.120 done

01:35:49.280 absolutely

01:35:49.920 nothing

01:35:50.360 to

01:35:50.600 decrease

01:35:50.920 gun

01:35:51.180 violence

01:35:51.620 all

01:35:52.120 you've

01:35:52.380 done

01:35:52.560 is

01:35:52.700 remove

01:35:53.060 the

01:35:53.260 barrier

01:35:53.560 for

01:35:53.820 Congress

01:35:54.240 to

01:35:54.520 legally

01:35:54.840 act

01:35:55.260 you

01:35:55.780 need

01:35:56.040 to

01:35:56.340 enact

01:35:57.100 common

01:35:57.480 sense

01:35:57.840 gun

01:35:58.080 reform

01:35:58.580 you can

01:35:59.440 try

01:35:59.640 to do

01:35:59.940 what

01:36:00.080 Australia

01:36:00.520 did

01:36:00.920 and

01:36:01.180 ban

01:36:02.940 all

01:36:03.640 guns

01:36:04.200 that's

01:36:04.620 that's

01:36:05.020 not at

01:36:05.280 all

01:36:05.380 what

01:36:05.500 they

01:36:05.620 did

01:36:05.820 but

01:36:06.020 whatever

01:36:06.700 f*** it

01:36:07.120 go big

01:36:07.460 or go

01:36:07.700 home

01:36:07.940 right

01:36:08.160 get

01:36:08.700 that

01:36:08.980 law

01:36:09.260 passed

01:36:09.660 by

01:36:09.920 Congress

01:36:10.340 and

01:36:10.640 signed

01:36:10.960 by

01:36:11.200 the

01:36:11.360 president

01:36:11.720 great

01:36:12.980 the

01:36:13.440 law

01:36:13.700 is

01:36:13.900 passed

01:36:14.280 and

01:36:14.500 guns

01:36:14.780 are

01:36:14.940 now

01:36:15.220 illegal

01:36:15.580 the

01:36:16.140 only

01:36:16.320 thing

01:36:16.520 left

01:36:16.700 to

01:36:16.860 do

01:36:17.040 is

01:36:17.320 enforce

01:36:18.120 the

01:36:18.420 law

01:36:18.800 guns

01:36:19.260 don't

01:36:19.440 just

01:36:19.620 disappear

01:36:20.000 because

01:36:20.260 you

01:36:20.420 passed

01:36:20.660 a

01:36:20.800 law

01:36:20.960 you

01:36:21.340 need

01:36:21.520 to

01:36:21.660 confiscate

01:36:22.240 over

01:36:22.480 350

01:36:23.200 million

01:36:24.040 guns

01:36:24.620 scattered

01:36:25.260 among

01:36:25.640 over

01:36:26.060 330

01:36:30.520 but

01:36:31.100 like

01:36:31.300 Australia

01:36:31.720 that

01:36:32.000 will

01:36:32.120 still

01:36:32.360 leave

01:36:32.560 behind

01:36:32.900 anywhere

01:36:33.200 from

01:36:33.540 60

01:36:33.960 to

01:36:34.140 80

01:36:34.340 percent

01:36:34.700 of

01:36:34.880 privately

01:36:35.220 owned

01:36:35.500 firearms

01:36:35.980 the

01:36:36.820 rest

01:36:37.100 of

01:36:37.240 them

01:36:37.440 you

01:36:37.980 have

01:36:38.260 to

01:36:38.420 take

01:36:38.900 you'll

01:36:39.800 need

01:36:39.960 the

01:36:40.120 police

01:36:40.700 the

01:36:41.020 FBI

01:36:41.500 the

01:36:42.060 ATF

01:36:42.820 the

01:36:43.080 National

01:36:43.500 Guard

01:36:43.960 all

01:36:44.800 known

01:36:45.040 for

01:36:45.200 their

01:36:45.440 nuanced

01:36:46.020 approach

01:36:46.540 to

01:36:46.780 potentially

01:36:47.240 dangerous

01:36:47.720 situations

01:36:48.420 to

01:36:49.140 go

01:36:49.320 door

01:36:49.620 to

01:36:49.820 door

01:36:50.160 through

01:36:50.860 3.8

01:36:51.740 million

01:36:52.260 square

01:36:52.740 miles

01:36:53.140 of this

01:36:53.520 country

01:36:53.960 and

01:36:54.740 take

01:36:55.080 them

01:36:55.440 by

01:36:56.240 force

01:36:56.820 from

01:36:57.600 thousands

01:36:58.260 if not

01:36:58.820 millions

01:36:59.300 of

01:36:59.660 well

01:37:00.120 armed

01:37:00.740 individuals

01:37:01.600 many

01:37:02.580 of

01:37:02.780 whom

01:37:03.080 would

01:37:03.560 rather

01:37:03.800 start

01:37:04.200 a

01:37:04.420 civil

01:37:04.660 war

01:37:05.040 than

01:37:05.620 acquiesce

01:37:06.380 so

01:37:07.040 inevitably

01:37:07.500 gun

01:37:08.560 violence

01:37:09.020 which is

01:37:09.500 currently

01:37:09.920 at a

01:37:10.480 historic

01:37:10.980 low

01:37:11.420 will

01:37:12.280 skyrocket

01:37:12.860 but

01:37:16.060 that

01:37:16.420 is how

01:37:17.000 you get

01:37:17.380 a gun

01:37:17.740 free

01:37:17.960 America

01:37:18.380 in

01:37:19.060 five

01:37:19.500 easy

01:37:20.020 steps

01:37:20.520 it's

01:37:20.920 just

01:37:21.320 that

01:37:21.620 easy

01:37:22.160 come

01:37:23.200 on

01:37:23.540 you

01:37:23.720 can

01:37:23.940 do

01:37:24.200 it

01:37:24.340 America

01:37:24.860 I

01:37:26.440 mean

01:37:26.580 this

01:37:26.800 is

01:37:26.980 insane

01:37:28.080 and

01:37:28.700 it

01:37:28.840 wouldn't

01:37:29.080 even

01:37:29.320 work

01:37:29.640 if you

01:37:29.860 tried

01:37:30.280 it

01:37:30.500 there's

01:37:31.480 no

01:37:31.780 country

01:37:32.260 on

01:37:32.540 earth

01:37:32.840 that

01:37:33.040 has

01:37:33.540 what

01:37:33.800 we

01:37:34.020 have

01:37:34.460 here

01:37:34.800 a

01:37:36.060 two

01:37:37.640 century

01:37:39.160 culture

01:37:39.840 of gun

01:37:41.320 ownership

01:37:41.700 being

01:37:42.220 central

01:37:43.140 to the

01:37:43.580 American

01:37:43.920 experience

01:37:44.660 and

01:37:45.580 I mean

01:37:45.780 I think

01:37:45.880 that video

01:37:46.200 was made

01:37:46.640 two years

01:37:47.320 ago

01:37:47.520 by

01:37:47.700 reason.com

01:37:48.480 at that

01:37:50.400 point

01:37:50.600 there were

01:37:50.880 350 million

01:37:52.100 guns

01:37:52.520 in America

01:37:52.920 I believe

01:37:53.380 the number

01:37:53.680 now is

01:37:54.100 398

01:37:55.380 million

01:37:55.720 guns

01:37:56.180 forget the

01:37:59.240 cost

01:37:59.760 of a

01:38:00.060 buyback

01:38:00.520 can you

01:38:00.940 imagine

01:38:01.480 people

01:38:02.140 who

01:38:02.340 held

01:38:02.580 out

01:38:02.880 how

01:38:03.320 are you

01:38:03.480 dealing

01:38:03.880 with

01:38:04.060 that

01:38:04.260 how

01:38:05.280 are you

01:38:05.420 dealing

01:38:05.620 with

01:38:05.780 that

01:38:05.960 that

01:38:07.180 is

01:38:07.380 not

01:38:07.600 something

01:38:07.880 that's

01:38:08.100 going

01:38:08.200 to

01:38:08.300 go

01:38:08.480 well

01:38:08.760 and

01:38:09.900 the

01:38:10.460 absolute

01:38:11.420 certainty

01:38:12.360 when it

01:38:13.100 comes to

01:38:13.420 an outcome

01:38:13.820 of something

01:38:14.460 like that

01:38:14.920 is

01:38:15.840 that

01:38:16.240 you

01:38:16.580 wind

01:38:17.060 up

01:38:17.380 increasing

01:38:18.060 gun

01:38:18.560 violence

01:38:18.920 because

01:38:19.200 you

01:38:19.460 have

01:38:19.680 massive

01:38:20.260 interactions

01:38:21.020 with

01:38:22.120 the

01:38:23.260 federal

01:38:23.520 authorities

01:38:24.200 trying to

01:38:24.580 take

01:38:24.720 these

01:38:24.900 weapons

01:38:25.280 it's

01:38:26.440 just

01:38:26.600 not

01:38:26.880 it's

01:38:27.260 not

01:38:27.500 realistic

01:38:27.900 it's

01:38:28.560 not

01:38:28.780 smart

01:38:29.180 and

01:38:30.300 it

01:38:30.420 wouldn't

01:38:30.680 do

01:38:31.020 anything

01:38:31.580 as we

01:38:32.100 see

01:38:32.400 with the

01:38:32.860 assault

01:38:33.100 weapons

01:38:33.420 ban

01:38:33.640 that

01:38:33.780 was

01:38:33.940 already

01:38:34.620 enacted

01:38:35.180 unconstitutionally

01:38:37.060 here in the

01:38:37.480 United States

01:38:38.120 because if you

01:38:40.400 think that one's

01:38:40.960 constitutional you're

01:38:41.920 kidding yourself

01:38:42.500 the words

01:38:44.160 shall not

01:38:45.340 be infringed

01:38:46.500 don't say

01:38:47.060 oh well

01:38:47.520 yeah except

01:38:48.060 you keep

01:38:48.620 the guns

01:38:48.980 we want

01:38:49.360 you to

01:38:49.580 keep

01:38:49.800 that's

01:38:50.880 not the

01:38:51.120 way that

01:38:51.460 that right

01:38:52.000 works

01:38:52.440 but we've

01:38:53.340 all sort

01:38:53.640 of blinked

01:38:55.120 our eyes

01:38:55.460 and looked

01:38:55.700 the other

01:38:55.940 way on

01:38:56.300 that one

01:38:56.620 I guess

01:38:57.240 that's the

01:38:57.520 way that

01:38:57.820 that's

01:38:58.780 supposed to

01:38:59.180 be handled

01:38:59.660 in

01:39:00.520 2019

01:39:01.620 America

01:39:02.320 it's not

01:39:04.260 going to

01:39:04.440 happen

01:39:04.660 so you

01:39:05.960 should

01:39:06.080 probably

01:39:06.320 focus on

01:39:06.780 something that

01:39:07.220 will make

01:39:07.900 a difference

01:39:08.400 888-727-BECK

01:39:10.400 is the phone

01:39:11.100 number

01:39:11.320 back with

01:39:11.700 more in a

01:39:12.080 second

01:39:12.280 it's

01:39:16.300 it's

01:39:16.320 doing

01:39:16.500 for Glenn

01:39:16.900 on the

01:39:17.100 Glenn Beck

01:39:17.400 program

01:39:17.780 to kind

01:39:18.240 of keep

01:39:18.480 you up

01:39:18.660 to date

01:39:18.960 here as

01:39:19.320 what's

01:39:19.560 going on

01:39:19.980 we obviously

01:39:20.320 had the two

01:39:20.720 shootings this

01:39:21.160 weekend

01:39:21.400 29 total

01:39:22.440 in between

01:39:23.000 passed away

01:39:24.860 and just

01:39:25.900 an awful

01:39:26.760 incident

01:39:27.080 dozens more

01:39:27.740 injured

01:39:28.140 president outlined

01:39:29.160 a five-step

01:39:29.760 program here

01:39:30.900 that he's going

01:39:31.280 to try to

01:39:31.620 implement

01:39:32.480 that would

01:39:34.120 some of it

01:39:34.920 is around

01:39:35.220 gun laws

01:39:35.760 most of it's

01:39:36.260 around

01:39:36.720 speech

01:39:37.540 and other

01:39:39.300 things that

01:39:40.000 become problematic

01:39:41.260 he's no real

01:39:42.380 details on it

01:39:43.100 so we don't

01:39:43.380 know exactly

01:39:44.700 what it is

01:39:45.220 but he is

01:39:45.820 definitely

01:39:47.200 taking it

01:39:47.660 seriously

01:39:48.000 and one of

01:39:49.140 the things

01:39:49.280 he did

01:39:49.480 was what

01:39:49.900 the left

01:39:50.320 requested

01:39:50.840 which was

01:39:51.440 an overt

01:39:52.840 and outright

01:39:53.820 denouncement

01:39:54.580 of white

01:39:55.060 nationalism

01:39:55.680 and supremacism

01:39:56.740 and racism

01:39:58.900 as a whole

01:39:59.840 so he did

01:40:00.740 do that

01:40:01.400 as the media

01:40:02.180 requested

01:40:02.680 and of course

01:40:03.320 all the

01:40:03.940 candidates

01:40:04.260 requested

01:40:04.740 and yet

01:40:05.200 they will

01:40:05.460 still call

01:40:05.900 him a white

01:40:06.280 nationalist

01:40:06.740 all day

01:40:07.260 so that

01:40:07.720 part

01:40:08.020 you probably

01:40:08.520 know

01:40:08.780 the other

01:40:09.360 thing you

01:40:09.580 might not

01:40:10.120 know

01:40:10.300 if you

01:40:10.500 missed

01:40:10.660 hour one

01:40:11.100 go back

01:40:11.460 and listen

01:40:11.740 to it

01:40:11.980 because

01:40:12.240 there was

01:40:13.080 a real

01:40:13.920 thing

01:40:14.340 going on

01:40:14.980 with the

01:40:15.160 media

01:40:15.420 where they

01:40:15.780 quoted

01:40:16.020 this one

01:40:16.420 line

01:40:16.780 if we

01:40:17.180 can get rid

01:40:17.560 of enough

01:40:17.820 people

01:40:18.200 then our

01:40:19.100 way of life

01:40:19.760 can become

01:40:20.320 more sustainable

01:40:21.080 from the

01:40:21.860 manifesto

01:40:22.620 of this

01:40:23.000 maniac

01:40:23.960 what they did

01:40:25.200 not include

01:40:25.640 is what the

01:40:26.040 context of

01:40:26.660 that was

01:40:27.120 it had

01:40:27.340 nothing to

01:40:27.660 do with

01:40:27.940 white

01:40:28.140 supremacism

01:40:28.820 it had

01:40:29.600 to do

01:40:29.820 with the

01:40:30.400 environment

01:40:30.860 very clearly

01:40:32.120 talked about

01:40:32.740 the environment

01:40:33.360 how corporations

01:40:35.080 are shamelessly

01:40:36.420 over harvesting

01:40:37.360 resources

01:40:38.040 talking about

01:40:39.340 watersheds

01:40:40.200 around the

01:40:40.640 country

01:40:41.100 being depleted

01:40:42.400 talked about

01:40:43.680 water being

01:40:44.340 polluted from

01:40:45.080 oil drilling

01:40:46.260 operations

01:40:47.000 talked about

01:40:48.080 consumer culture

01:40:49.260 creating tons

01:40:50.920 of unnecessary

01:40:51.780 plastic waste

01:40:53.140 all of these

01:40:54.800 things

01:40:55.260 left-wing things

01:40:56.140 that were just

01:40:57.600 not left out

01:40:58.740 of the

01:40:59.000 out of the

01:41:00.100 conversation

01:41:00.620 but I don't

01:41:01.600 think that's how

01:41:01.980 most people

01:41:02.480 take this stuff

01:41:03.300 in I think

01:41:03.660 the way that

01:41:04.020 this hits

01:41:04.520 most people

01:41:05.060 certainly

01:41:05.400 thankfully

01:41:05.880 not the

01:41:06.360 violence

01:41:06.700 because

01:41:07.040 our

01:41:07.680 rates

01:41:09.100 of

01:41:09.320 crime

01:41:10.520 are

01:41:10.740 way

01:41:11.140 down

01:41:11.460 but I think

01:41:11.780 where this

01:41:12.260 hits most

01:41:12.660 people is

01:41:13.360 in their

01:41:14.020 daily lives

01:41:14.540 on social

01:41:14.940 media

01:41:15.260 because you're

01:41:16.480 getting hit

01:41:16.820 with all these

01:41:17.280 arguments

01:41:17.600 we went over

01:41:18.060 a bunch of

01:41:18.520 them this

01:41:19.060 hour already

01:41:19.760 but you're

01:41:21.340 getting in

01:41:21.680 fights with

01:41:21.980 all your

01:41:22.180 friends over

01:41:22.680 guns

01:41:23.000 and no

01:41:24.620 better person

01:41:25.340 to talk to

01:41:26.140 this about

01:41:26.520 is probably

01:41:27.060 the greatest

01:41:27.680 booking of

01:41:28.460 my life

01:41:28.820 if there's

01:41:29.120 ever a

01:41:29.560 guest that

01:41:30.080 I've booked

01:41:30.480 on this

01:41:30.780 program that

01:41:31.240 I would

01:41:31.440 marry

01:41:31.780 it's this

01:41:32.780 one

01:41:33.000 my wife

01:41:34.800 Lisa Page

01:41:35.420 joins us

01:41:35.900 here on

01:41:36.220 the program

01:41:36.640 and the

01:41:37.540 reason you

01:41:37.920 join us

01:41:38.220 of course

01:41:38.520 Lisa

01:41:38.780 is because

01:41:40.000 you get in

01:41:41.240 these fights

01:41:41.620 all the time

01:41:42.100 on Facebook

01:41:42.580 and I

01:41:45.580 don't understand

01:41:46.320 it at all

01:41:47.100 I know

01:41:47.660 and here you

01:41:48.580 are posting

01:41:49.100 what you

01:41:49.460 believe to

01:41:50.160 be the

01:41:50.460 right thing

01:41:50.940 and your

01:41:51.720 friends all

01:41:52.420 can't help

01:41:53.040 themselves but

01:41:53.600 they jump

01:41:53.940 into your

01:41:54.280 feed

01:41:54.520 yes

01:41:55.340 so you

01:41:57.740 know when

01:41:58.480 something like

01:41:59.560 this a tragedy

01:42:00.220 like this

01:42:00.640 happens I

01:42:02.300 actually don't

01:42:03.520 jump to

01:42:04.040 Facebook to

01:42:05.160 comment I

01:42:05.880 really don't

01:42:06.480 I try and

01:42:07.040 keep my

01:42:07.520 opinions to

01:42:08.160 myself but

01:42:09.940 yesterday I

01:42:10.900 could not

01:42:11.200 help myself

01:42:11.780 and I

01:42:13.840 really posted

01:42:16.040 because I

01:42:16.600 was really

01:42:17.120 sick and

01:42:17.840 tired of

01:42:18.340 reading everybody

01:42:19.380 else's opinions

01:42:20.380 now when

01:42:21.560 some of my

01:42:22.200 friends that

01:42:22.620 disagree with

01:42:24.060 my opinion or

01:42:25.460 my view on

01:42:26.060 what's going

01:42:26.480 on they're

01:42:27.320 very quick to

01:42:28.080 come at me

01:42:28.820 they do

01:42:29.820 I don't

01:42:30.420 normally

01:42:30.940 reciprocate

01:42:31.660 because I

01:42:32.500 cherish our

01:42:33.480 friendship I

01:42:35.060 usually stay

01:42:35.620 quiet I

01:42:36.340 stand down

01:42:36.940 I don't

01:42:37.340 say a lot

01:42:37.900 in my

01:42:38.580 head I'm

01:42:38.980 raging but

01:42:39.600 I'm not

01:42:39.880 gonna let

01:42:40.140 anybody know

01:42:40.560 about that

01:42:40.980 but yesterday

01:42:42.140 I don't even

01:42:43.240 think what I

01:42:43.920 posted on my

01:42:44.680 personal page

01:42:45.280 because I

01:42:46.540 rarely do this

01:42:47.460 on my radio

01:42:48.840 page or other

01:42:49.940 things if you

01:42:50.440 don't know

01:42:50.780 Lisa Page

01:42:51.380 a big much

01:42:52.900 bigger national

01:42:54.240 radio personality

01:42:55.120 than myself

01:42:55.660 I have a number

01:42:56.220 one show across

01:42:57.000 the country

01:42:57.340 she does a

01:42:57.960 big very big

01:42:58.600 show huge

01:42:59.200 but it's not a

01:42:59.960 political show

01:43:00.500 and I would

01:43:02.200 die I would

01:43:02.820 never do that

01:43:03.420 this is why

01:43:03.940 you do this

01:43:04.620 and I do

01:43:05.160 what I do

01:43:05.560 I cover pop

01:43:06.300 culture you

01:43:07.200 cover the

01:43:07.900 political side

01:43:08.480 of things but

01:43:09.200 I don't even

01:43:09.680 think what I

01:43:10.180 posted on my

01:43:11.060 personal page

01:43:12.320 yesterday was

01:43:13.680 insensitive it

01:43:15.160 wasn't offensive

01:43:16.080 it was just me

01:43:17.320 saying listen

01:43:18.480 guys there's

01:43:19.660 only so much

01:43:20.380 we can do

01:43:20.900 you can sit

01:43:21.480 here and you

01:43:21.860 can ask why

01:43:22.540 why why

01:43:23.340 but we

01:43:25.640 can't do much

01:43:26.540 more right

01:43:28.180 than to support

01:43:29.280 to donate

01:43:30.420 to get

01:43:30.880 involved

01:43:31.400 but as far

01:43:32.180 as voting

01:43:33.000 like we've

01:43:33.580 heard this

01:43:34.240 we've heard

01:43:35.380 this over

01:43:36.160 and over

01:43:36.620 and over

01:43:37.040 and over

01:43:37.400 again

01:43:37.720 and there's

01:43:38.720 always going

01:43:39.100 to be someone

01:43:40.140 who decides

01:43:40.800 they're going

01:43:41.120 to do something

01:43:41.640 terrible and

01:43:42.300 whether it's

01:43:42.740 it's guns

01:43:43.400 or if as we

01:43:44.320 saw in France

01:43:45.080 for example

01:43:45.600 someone decided

01:43:46.540 to drive their

01:43:47.000 truck over a

01:43:47.720 bunch of people

01:43:48.160 at a festival

01:43:48.800 did they feel

01:43:49.520 better about that

01:43:50.240 right was that

01:43:50.840 a better was

01:43:51.380 that an

01:43:51.580 improvement for

01:43:52.100 their families

01:43:52.600 that they

01:43:52.820 didn't get

01:43:53.060 shot they

01:43:53.420 only got run

01:43:53.900 over like

01:43:54.740 these things

01:43:55.180 and it was

01:43:55.560 more people

01:43:56.140 dying than

01:43:56.760 it was more

01:43:57.160 than triple

01:43:57.580 the amount

01:43:58.000 of people

01:43:58.220 who died

01:43:58.780 in this

01:43:59.920 past weekend's

01:44:01.340 attacks

01:44:01.740 right

01:44:02.060 this is going

01:44:02.840 to happen

01:44:03.420 either way

01:44:04.140 bad people

01:44:04.840 do bad

01:44:05.220 things

01:44:05.500 that was

01:44:05.760 basically

01:44:06.080 the tone

01:44:06.460 of your

01:44:06.660 post

01:44:06.860 yeah I was

01:44:08.140 like you

01:44:08.360 cannot stop

01:44:09.140 killings

01:44:09.580 like a gun

01:44:10.480 does not

01:44:10.900 fire itself

01:44:11.720 the person

01:44:12.620 behind the

01:44:13.140 gun fires

01:44:13.940 the gun

01:44:14.480 and you know

01:44:16.060 like I said

01:44:16.800 in one of

01:44:17.240 the I was

01:44:17.740 I was going

01:44:18.140 back and forth

01:44:18.580 with one of

01:44:18.860 my friends

01:44:19.220 about mental

01:44:20.360 illness

01:44:20.640 and you know

01:44:21.480 she's saying

01:44:22.140 well not all

01:44:22.900 the cases are

01:44:23.540 it's not all

01:44:24.080 about mental

01:44:24.500 illness

01:44:24.780 well maybe

01:44:26.200 because a lot

01:44:27.080 of these guys

01:44:27.900 that have been

01:44:28.840 you know committing

01:44:30.160 all these mass

01:44:31.100 murders they

01:44:31.860 didn't maybe

01:44:32.280 check out

01:44:32.700 there wasn't

01:44:33.100 a red flag

01:44:33.540 and like if

01:44:34.280 you watch any

01:44:34.980 of the morning

01:44:35.800 shows this

01:44:36.140 morning they

01:44:36.780 had a lot

01:44:37.160 of specialists

01:44:37.580 on saying

01:44:38.060 that there

01:44:39.360 at some

01:44:39.960 level there

01:44:40.480 is a mental

01:44:41.120 there's something

01:44:41.800 wrong in their

01:44:42.500 head listen

01:44:42.960 anybody that

01:44:43.760 wants to go

01:44:44.300 in to a

01:44:45.200 place with

01:44:45.880 the intention

01:44:46.320 of murdering

01:44:47.620 hundreds of

01:44:49.040 people or a

01:44:49.720 handful of

01:44:50.040 people you're

01:44:50.840 something's not

01:44:51.560 right in your

01:44:52.020 head so you

01:44:52.760 can classify it

01:44:53.620 well no but

01:44:54.860 he didn't check

01:44:55.320 out as he

01:44:56.140 wasn't mentally

01:44:56.900 unstable he was

01:44:57.720 able to get

01:44:58.140 this firearm

01:44:58.660 he got it like

01:44:59.120 well people are

01:45:00.180 going to kill if

01:45:00.740 they want to kill

01:45:01.220 they're going to

01:45:01.620 find a way

01:45:02.180 yeah they're

01:45:02.640 going to find

01:45:03.000 a way they

01:45:03.440 have with all

01:45:04.280 sorts of

01:45:04.720 different things

01:45:05.320 when it comes

01:45:05.820 to whether

01:45:06.260 it's you know

01:45:06.800 poisoning people

01:45:07.540 or bombing

01:45:08.080 people or

01:45:08.580 running people

01:45:09.080 over or

01:45:09.640 stabbing people

01:45:10.320 there's always

01:45:11.080 something there

01:45:11.960 there's always

01:45:12.340 a way for them

01:45:12.860 to do it

01:45:13.380 but we were

01:45:13.940 saying yesterday

01:45:14.540 Stu and I

01:45:15.000 were talking

01:45:15.400 and we're

01:45:15.700 like you know

01:45:16.640 every day in

01:45:17.960 the country there

01:45:18.920 are people that

01:45:20.120 get in huge

01:45:20.800 car wrecks and

01:45:21.940 10 in 12

01:45:23.180 people are

01:45:23.620 dying at once

01:45:24.200 where's the

01:45:24.620 outrage there

01:45:25.220 where's the

01:45:25.580 outrage for the

01:45:26.060 drunk driver

01:45:26.640 that hit somebody

01:45:27.300 over the weekend

01:45:27.780 and killed 12

01:45:28.280 people where's

01:45:28.980 the outrage I

01:45:29.940 don't hear about

01:45:30.460 it yeah because

01:45:31.000 there's not a

01:45:31.480 political advantage

01:45:32.140 my Cory Booker

01:45:33.420 doesn't get to

01:45:33.900 get a couple more

01:45:34.560 donations if he

01:45:35.380 comes out and

01:45:35.760 talks about car

01:45:36.340 accidents but

01:45:37.220 it's like it's

01:45:37.740 an interesting

01:45:38.120 part of this and

01:45:38.760 that's a great

01:45:39.360 point when you

01:45:40.800 have a situation

01:45:42.300 where there's

01:45:42.720 political divides

01:45:43.720 the most difficult

01:45:45.100 road to solve a

01:45:46.340 situation like that

01:45:47.140 is to attack the

01:45:48.020 place where most

01:45:48.660 people disagree

01:45:49.540 right so if you

01:45:51.440 want to keep if

01:45:52.020 your goal is to

01:45:52.640 stop mass

01:45:53.080 shootings well

01:45:53.480 that's not the

01:45:54.360 right goal the

01:45:55.000 goal should be to

01:45:55.520 keep people alive

01:45:56.520 right right so

01:45:57.900 you know you

01:45:58.380 talked about car

01:45:58.980 accidents well these

01:45:59.860 things do happen

01:46:00.520 all the time

01:46:01.120 there is automated

01:46:02.940 cars the whole

01:46:03.840 self-driving car

01:46:04.540 things they

01:46:05.000 estimate that that

01:46:05.720 would wipe out

01:46:06.280 94% of deaths

01:46:08.700 94% of deaths

01:46:10.420 we're talking about

01:46:11.060 hundreds of

01:46:11.900 thousands of

01:46:12.640 people that would

01:46:13.840 be alive instead

01:46:14.580 of dead over a

01:46:15.420 decade right if

01:46:16.620 that were to come

01:46:17.680 to fruition there's

01:46:18.820 no political

01:46:19.600 opposition to it

01:46:20.660 right there's not

01:46:21.080 like republicans

01:46:21.760 like it and

01:46:22.120 democrats don't but

01:46:23.240 that's so there's

01:46:23.660 no fun yeah

01:46:24.620 there's no point

01:46:25.340 there's saving

01:46:25.840 those lives right

01:46:26.440 there's no point

01:46:26.960 arguing you know

01:46:28.820 and I will say

01:46:29.780 that it's not

01:46:32.280 everybody that I

01:46:33.520 know it's a few

01:46:34.160 people but you

01:46:35.360 know a couple of

01:46:36.180 my friends genuinely

01:46:37.240 want to know right

01:46:38.980 like I have one

01:46:40.040 friend and we've

01:46:41.240 been friends for

01:46:41.680 almost 20 years and

01:46:42.860 she genuinely wants

01:46:44.320 to know why people

01:46:46.600 like guns or why

01:46:48.460 you know like yeah

01:46:49.240 she's very left but

01:46:50.080 tries to understand

01:46:50.840 the arguments from

01:46:51.440 the other side

01:46:51.800 does try and

01:46:52.720 that's infrequent

01:46:54.180 though I will say

01:46:54.940 on Facebook right

01:46:56.220 it's people just

01:46:57.800 stating whatever

01:46:58.900 their preconceived

01:46:59.980 notion is right

01:47:00.740 right right and I

01:47:01.680 will state my

01:47:02.280 opinion and they

01:47:02.920 just keep coming

01:47:04.560 back and at one

01:47:05.500 point at some

01:47:06.040 point you just

01:47:06.580 have to you got

01:47:07.740 to just end the

01:47:08.240 argument I mean

01:47:08.980 this is why

01:47:09.720 yesterday was

01:47:10.320 probably it will

01:47:10.760 probably be the

01:47:11.280 first and maybe

01:47:12.380 the last time I

01:47:13.260 even express my

01:47:14.320 political opinion

01:47:15.600 about it because

01:47:16.200 it's not worth

01:47:17.240 getting in fights

01:47:18.460 and getting frustrated

01:47:19.200 and causing

01:47:19.620 conflict with your

01:47:20.580 friends y'all know

01:47:21.760 where I stand if

01:47:22.780 you are a friend on

01:47:23.740 my personal page

01:47:24.460 you know you know

01:47:26.820 where I'm coming

01:47:27.460 from you know what

01:47:28.160 I believe you know

01:47:29.020 so lay off lay off

01:47:31.720 me for a minute

01:47:32.620 okay because this

01:47:33.760 is you brought this

01:47:34.720 up before I think

01:47:35.240 this is a really

01:47:35.680 interesting point if

01:47:36.780 people know where

01:47:37.660 you stand right why

01:47:39.020 bother if if you're

01:47:40.380 friends why bother

01:47:41.860 jumping in there when

01:47:42.520 you know how it ends

01:47:43.300 well I guess because

01:47:44.540 I feel like I would

01:47:46.060 get support from my

01:47:47.920 friends I feel like

01:47:49.480 maybe because most

01:47:50.940 of our friends most

01:47:52.300 of my friends are

01:47:53.040 like-minded like me

01:47:54.060 aren't we our kids

01:47:55.000 go to a school where

01:47:55.740 many of the parents

01:47:56.880 we're all kind of in

01:47:57.820 the same boat we all

01:47:58.860 think the same way we

01:48:00.000 all believe the same

01:48:00.920 things and I think my

01:48:03.380 intention was well I'm

01:48:04.520 just gonna put this

01:48:05.000 out there because I

01:48:05.620 am gonna I know I'm

01:48:06.440 gonna get support from

01:48:06.980 my friends and I did

01:48:07.720 I got a lot I got I

01:48:08.880 mean we're up to

01:48:09.580 almost 70 comments but

01:48:11.100 then there's a couple

01:48:12.120 people back and forth

01:48:12.940 back and forth bad and

01:48:13.660 then our neighbors are

01:48:14.240 getting involved and

01:48:14.720 and now last night I

01:48:16.040 went to bed and I'm

01:48:16.580 like I'm not I'm glad

01:48:17.940 I am not involved

01:48:19.000 anymore these all these

01:48:20.440 four can hash it out

01:48:21.520 but it really is like

01:48:23.680 social media it's it's

01:48:24.900 hard because you do

01:48:26.020 it's social media

01:48:26.860 everybody's on it so

01:48:28.140 you kind of have to

01:48:28.900 bring it up and I

01:48:30.400 mean thankfully my

01:48:31.180 show is not a

01:48:31.980 political show so I

01:48:32.960 make no mention of

01:48:33.720 it because it's not my

01:48:34.980 place but it's funny

01:48:36.660 you enter the debate

01:48:37.580 the same way we do in

01:48:39.520 political circles and I

01:48:40.380 think this happens to

01:48:40.980 everybody this debate

01:48:42.240 starts working you know

01:48:43.580 playing out on your

01:48:44.620 Facebook page page you

01:48:45.780 have strong feelings

01:48:46.440 about it whoever your

01:48:47.360 friend is has strong

01:48:48.040 feelings about it and

01:48:49.580 you're I know what it

01:48:50.760 feels like like you're

01:48:51.920 you're your stomach's

01:48:53.120 tight you're raging you

01:48:54.900 just want to respond you

01:48:55.980 want to find the perfect

01:48:56.680 thing that's going to

01:48:57.380 shut them down punch a

01:48:58.380 wall I want to I'm

01:48:59.660 literal I'm not a

01:49:00.600 drinker I wanted to do

01:49:01.680 700 shots yesterday just

01:49:03.580 get wasted but it's

01:49:05.000 true and like I don't

01:49:06.420 know like in the end of

01:49:07.460 the day you never solve

01:49:09.980 a debate when you feel

01:49:11.300 like that but it kind of

01:49:13.000 puts you in that same

01:49:13.880 position of like hosting

01:49:15.440 you know you're

01:49:16.680 obviously in media but

01:49:17.820 like not everybody is

01:49:18.800 and so there you're in

01:49:19.660 that circle where like

01:49:20.400 you are now in front of

01:49:22.120 all your friends arguing

01:49:23.960 back and forth looking

01:49:24.760 for that like sort of

01:49:25.440 mic drop moment to win

01:49:26.840 this debate that never

01:49:27.800 comes no I mean it

01:49:29.680 because you know why

01:49:30.440 you have the people that

01:49:31.380 want to just keep coming

01:49:32.460 back with you at to

01:49:33.240 stats and stats and

01:49:34.180 stats really what I

01:49:35.040 should have did was

01:49:35.440 plop up my laptop right

01:49:36.260 next to you and said

01:49:37.460 just tell me what to

01:49:38.200 right now I don't know

01:49:39.060 what to say I'm out of

01:49:39.840 all it but honestly like

01:49:41.480 it is it's one of those

01:49:42.980 things where you cut it's

01:49:44.040 it's hard to not it's

01:49:45.900 hard to not stay quiet

01:49:46.920 about it because

01:49:47.420 especially when topics

01:49:48.500 like this arise like I

01:49:50.140 get very heated as you

01:49:51.380 know I get passionate and

01:49:52.320 a lot of times Stu will

01:49:53.820 say just get off of

01:49:55.340 Facebook stop going back

01:49:57.680 and forth you know and

01:49:59.040 ironically like a lot of

01:50:00.480 these conversations will

01:50:01.180 have and then like five

01:50:02.300 minutes later I'm just on

01:50:03.220 the phone texting with

01:50:03.900 the friend that I was

01:50:04.540 just sort of kind of

01:50:05.360 having a maybe a little

01:50:06.620 bit of an argument and

01:50:07.300 we're talking about you

01:50:09.340 know what are you wearing

01:50:10.500 tomorrow what did you

01:50:11.340 see the show are you

01:50:12.060 watching you know did

01:50:12.780 you get right so it's

01:50:14.760 very you know it's

01:50:16.840 confusing but it's hard

01:50:17.840 to not address but also

01:50:19.640 you want to not address

01:50:20.680 it but you well you

01:50:22.000 don't get in the middle

01:50:22.600 of it but it's also like

01:50:23.520 you don't want to see

01:50:24.160 seed the ground right

01:50:25.160 these are important

01:50:25.880 issues you feel

01:50:26.720 passionately about them

01:50:27.560 obviously like to just

01:50:29.020 eliminate the debate

01:50:30.220 and take yourself out of

01:50:31.120 it is not the right

01:50:31.820 answer either I think my

01:50:32.720 favorite actually moment

01:50:34.180 of this was I think at

01:50:35.200 one point you posted

01:50:35.920 something on Instagram

01:50:36.860 and you know you're in

01:50:39.520 the middle and someone

01:50:40.120 made some anti-gun

01:50:41.240 comment and all of a

01:50:41.980 sudden in your feed

01:50:42.600 pops up Dana Lash

01:50:43.840 yeah it's like can you

01:50:45.180 imagine the mismatch

01:50:46.500 which is going on right

01:50:47.220 now you have Dana Lash

01:50:49.020 who's like written

01:50:49.600 multiple bestsellers

01:50:51.000 and she's a good friend

01:50:51.940 of mine she's a good

01:50:52.520 friend of ours yeah

01:50:53.300 yeah and and this poor

01:50:55.160 person who thinks they're

01:50:56.840 going to win this debate

01:50:57.640 is now arguing against

01:50:58.980 Dana Lash oh this is

01:51:01.180 horrible yeah um so

01:51:02.380 well I I I like are you

01:51:04.620 still friends with these

01:51:05.280 people are you still

01:51:05.860 yes I am I am

01:51:07.080 everything worked out

01:51:07.760 very good friends very

01:51:08.500 good friends and we

01:51:09.240 will just have to always

01:51:09.980 continue to agree to

01:51:11.580 disagree on a lot of

01:51:12.620 these things thank you

01:51:13.740 and uh Lisa page of

01:51:15.080 course now first of all

01:51:15.860 I I've heard all the

01:51:16.740 jokes yes I know I

01:51:17.640 married up uh yes the

01:51:19.400 purses are still in the

01:51:20.140 liberty safe the purses

01:51:20.860 are still yeah liberty

01:51:21.880 safe that's always a

01:51:22.580 topic I didn't threaten

01:51:23.660 you at the beginning of

01:51:24.280 this relationship can you

01:51:25.000 confirm that on the

01:51:25.720 record no you never

01:51:26.420 threatened thank you no

01:51:27.660 uh it was I had nothing

01:51:28.740 I didn't bribe anybody

01:51:29.960 no maybe with a little

01:51:30.700 bit in a purse contract

01:51:31.480 there we go uh Lisa

01:51:33.080 page she has a radio show

01:51:34.640 also a new podcast as well

01:51:35.980 oh yeah Lisa page made me

01:51:37.020 do it Lisa page made me

01:51:38.160 do it so if you are a

01:51:39.420 guy we will not be

01:51:39.960 talking we will not be

01:51:40.920 talking political no no

01:51:41.820 politics nothing on

01:51:43.100 politics if you're a guy

01:51:44.180 who wants to figure out

01:51:45.520 good presence for your

01:51:46.420 wife yeah I would

01:51:47.160 recommend this uh highly

01:51:48.240 if all and as well as

01:51:49.200 following her and if

01:51:49.740 you're uh a lady or you

01:51:51.740 happen to identify today

01:51:53.120 as a lady uh and you

01:51:55.060 like uh equal rights all

01:51:56.460 the you know whatever

01:51:57.220 products or whatever

01:51:57.900 you're spending you know

01:51:59.120 90 percent of all of our

01:52:00.020 money on uh you can go

01:52:01.240 to Lisa page made me do

01:52:02.300 it as a podcast you can

01:52:03.540 check that out Lisa thank

01:52:05.260 you thank you so much

01:52:06.360 thank you I appreciate

01:52:07.520 it and hopefully you can

01:52:08.720 keep your friends here

01:52:09.480 for the next few days at

01:52:10.600 least uh we'll be back

01:52:11.780 in a second here

01:52:12.460 triple eight seven

01:52:13.040 27 back is the phone

01:52:14.080 number

01:52:14.300 if you happen to find

01:52:17.760 the very rare media

01:52:18.640 source that's attempting

01:52:19.540 to give you the entire

01:52:20.740 picture of what happened

01:52:22.680 over the weekend you're

01:52:23.540 still gonna they're still

01:52:24.200 gonna blow it because

01:52:25.240 they're gonna say well

01:52:26.000 there was one right wing

01:52:27.600 killer and one left wing

01:52:29.620 killer now the left wing

01:52:31.080 killer thing is not getting

01:52:31.860 much attention at all it was

01:52:32.860 Elizabeth Warren uh supporter

01:52:35.480 in Ohio uh this then there

01:52:38.820 was a guy in in in El Paso

01:52:42.100 who was talking a lot about

01:52:45.020 immigration and he wanted

01:52:46.540 to get you know get rid of

01:52:47.640 immigrants is one of the

01:52:48.640 reasons why he did this of

01:52:49.620 course he also specifically

01:52:50.960 cites his environmentalist

01:52:53.260 motivations in the manifesto

01:52:55.120 very clearly says he thinks you

01:52:57.520 know too much plastic waste is a

01:52:59.160 good reason to go to Walmart

01:53:00.240 and start shooting people uh and

01:53:02.300 if you haven't seen any

01:53:03.220 left wing uh really negative

01:53:06.760 uh left wing material over the

01:53:09.680 years against Walmart I mean

01:53:11.440 you know this is a part of

01:53:12.580 this that no one's exploring

01:53:13.660 but the bottom line is you

01:53:15.020 can't blame anybody you can't

01:53:16.260 blame left wing politicians or

01:53:17.560 right wing politicians but a

01:53:18.720 lot of people will say well

01:53:19.440 there's one left wing and one

01:53:20.660 right wing over the weekend

01:53:21.600 you can't take anything out of

01:53:22.580 that one thing you can take

01:53:23.780 out of that is and either one

01:53:25.500 of these things uh is gonna

01:53:27.800 come it's gonna align with a

01:53:29.120 small government perspective

01:53:30.520 you know racism is something we

01:53:33.540 can all fight against but you

01:53:34.860 know what racism is

01:53:35.720 collectivism it's when you see

01:53:37.420 people as groups instead of

01:53:39.200 individuals when you see

01:53:40.740 people as well you know when

01:53:41.760 you're going into a bar and

01:53:42.900 you're firing bullets

01:53:43.700 indiscriminately well you're

01:53:44.840 just firing bullets into a

01:53:46.500 blob of humanity you don't see

01:53:47.800 them as individuals you're just

01:53:48.920 shooting into a blob of

01:53:50.000 humanity because it benefits

01:53:51.080 your blob of humanity these are

01:53:52.980 collectivist arguments racism is

01:53:55.320 collectivism so is

01:53:56.620 environmentalism by the way but

01:53:58.580 so surely is socialism this is

01:54:02.220 a collectivism problem and we

01:54:03.860 should all fight about about it

01:54:05.260 i did see we went over a bunch

01:54:07.320 of the arguments you're gonna be

01:54:08.060 seeing on facebook and told you

01:54:09.200 the truth about it but a couple

01:54:10.180 arguments i haven't been seeing

01:54:11.340 too much on and i wanted to make

01:54:12.460 sure we addressed before the show

01:54:13.460 was over

01:54:13.900 this incredible job by police

01:54:17.400 officers this weekend and one of

01:54:19.280 the incidents they took down the

01:54:20.560 shooter in 30 seconds from the

01:54:22.900 first bullet being fired and if

01:54:25.280 you don't understand what i'm

01:54:26.360 saying when i talk about police

01:54:27.520 these are the people that you

01:54:28.820 call racist every other day

01:54:30.480 those people well you should be

01:54:32.780 thankful for them today when it

01:54:35.160 comes down to gun laws you know

01:54:36.580 you want to be restrictive on gun

01:54:37.780 laws you might want to examine

01:54:39.420 your position on the border because

01:54:41.820 having restrictive gun laws inside

01:54:44.220 the country doesn't do much good if

01:54:45.980 you have no border to protect them

01:54:47.520 from coming in from outside the

01:54:48.980 country just a couple things you

01:54:51.420 might want to mull over over the

01:54:52.840 next couple days back with more

01:54:55.260 tomorrow here on the glenbeck program

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The Glenn Beck Program - August 05, 2019

No Prayers For You! ｜ Guests： Kevin Williamson & Lisa Paige ｜ 8⧸5⧸19

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