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00:02:20.260 the fusion of entertainment enlightenment and empowerment this is the glenn beck program

00:02:40.260 hello america welcome to the glenn beck program live from london england uh this week i want to

00:02:49.440 talk to you about the cia there's this big brush up here uh in the senate yesterday where they

00:02:55.820 were talking about the lies that fauci told and then all of a sudden fog of war now we're not

00:03:01.860 talking about that now we're talking about mk ultra and how dare a senator treat the cia no no

00:03:09.180 the cia shouldn't it is insane what's going on uh also kind of the fog of war a little bit on what

00:03:15.560 is happening with Donald Trump, what is being said now about the negotiations and what Donald

00:03:19.740 Trump said to the president of China. We'll get into that here in a second. J.D. Raskin was

00:03:26.200 harassing a 16-year-old Texan. He was asked to testify in front of Congress, a 16-year-old kid

00:03:32.960 on Sharia law, what was happening in his school and how Muslims were getting special treatment

00:03:39.200 that Christians would never get. And so he goes up and testifies and here comes J.D. Raskin

00:03:44.940 harassing this kid and trying to pummel him, and the kid just runs, in my opinion, runs circles

00:03:51.640 around him. But it's worth looking into. Now, I want to start with kind of that whole thing,

00:03:58.480 because what's happening in America is a lot farther behind what's happening in Europe

00:04:05.040 and in England. And I'm here in England for a big rally on, you know, equally applied justice

00:04:13.920 and Sharia law in England.

00:04:16.800 And some of the people that were coming in to speak

00:04:19.060 have been banned by Keir Starmer, the prime minister.

00:04:24.040 One of them is a Dutch political commentator.

00:04:27.840 She is really good.

00:04:28.980 I've watched her for a long time.

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00:04:33.980 She's been banned. 0.97

00:04:34.740 I want to find out why.

00:04:36.220 What was she planning on saying that would be so disruptive

00:04:39.100 and so hateful that the people of England

00:04:41.760 shouldn't hear her voice?

00:04:43.200 She's joining me here in 60 seconds.

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00:05:54.420 Eva Lardingerbrook is with us now, and she is a Dutch political commentator.

00:06:01.380 Eva, welcome.

00:06:02.380 How are you?

00:06:03.960 Hi, Glenn.

00:06:04.540 It's great to see you, be it virtually.

00:06:06.420 in a normal world i would have been with you in a studio but i guess that's why we're talking today

00:06:11.340 i know i and i was looking forward to meeting you we have we have tried to book you for a very very

00:06:16.700 long time i i think i watch your videos and i you know i just don't see the inner hidden nazi that

00:06:23.680 everybody i guess in parliament in europe feels you are you've been making a great case for the

00:06:29.220 farmers um uh in the netherlands uh and um and i i honestly i didn't understand the plight of the

00:06:38.280 dutch farmer until uh i come here and i start looking at the high gas prices and then i start

00:06:45.120 looking at the taxes that they are putting on top of them and is it holland i can't remember which

00:06:51.120 which country is adding almost a five dollar gasoline tax per gallon there's and they're doing

00:06:58.460 it for global warming there's no way any farmer can survive five dollar a gallon gas

00:07:04.240 it is a tax on top of what they're paying right that's right and it's not the only thing

00:07:10.260 i mean the attacks on the farmers are you know they go far beyond even just the gas they've

00:07:17.420 been going on for years and years and years and it was something that i cared about a lot

00:07:21.040 and i guess to get back to your previous statement about that you don't see the inner nazi in me that

00:07:26.920 you know they make me out to be here in europe i guess you know that's what this boils down to

00:07:31.360 it's once you speak out about the injustices that are being done against groups like the farmers

00:07:37.220 or against the native population in europe when you talk about mass immigration or in general

00:07:42.220 you just go against the establishment they come at you really hard over here and as you know we

00:07:48.180 do not have a first nor a second amendment you know free free speech doesn't exist here in my

00:07:54.700 opinion because it's very very limited limited to essentially the the mainstream narrative i mean

00:08:00.520 if you if you repeat that then you're fine but if you go against it then you get smeared you get

00:08:04.220 prosecuted you get banned from countries now um so yeah the list goes on and on and on and i guess

00:08:10.540 that's um that's what i've been experiencing here for many many years and i'm sorry i didn't go on

00:08:15.380 your show before i've had a bit of a wild ride the past two years getting married having a baby

00:08:19.800 it's been it's been really fun but it's been intense so I hope we can can do this more often

00:08:25.560 from now I would we would love it so tell me the what is the thing that you planned on saying that

00:08:34.100 would agitate that was just too tough for the English people to hear according to Keir Starmer

00:08:40.060 okay I'll give you a little bit of a backstory because I actually got banned back in January

00:08:45.780 already i received an email out of the blue i hadn't booked flight flights yet to go to the

00:08:52.480 rally now coming up on saturday i hadn't even publicly confirmed that i was going to be speaking

00:08:58.280 again because i spoke at the last big unite the kingdom rally in september a couple of days after

00:09:03.900 charlie kirk was assassinated and that was incredible um you know there were many tributes

00:09:10.500 to him specifically. We were talking about immigration. I made a point to really make a

00:09:16.720 plea for re-migration and I attacked Keir Starmer in my speech quite, you know, strongly, but that's

00:09:22.460 not illegal in a free, you know, Western liberal democracy, is it? You'd think. But yeah, so I 0.75

00:09:28.880 received an email out of the blue from the United Kingdom government saying that they had revoked

00:09:33.640 my ETA, which is basically the UK version of an ESTA, you know, what Europeans need to go to

00:09:39.180 America. After Brexit, we needed something similar to go to the UK. And they just revoked it. And I 0.53

00:09:44.740 thought to myself, how is this possible? What's happening? What happened in the past couple of

00:09:49.400 days that they decided to do this now out of the blue? And then I figured, oh, I posted a tweet

00:09:54.600 calling Keir Starmer an evil, despicable man, just three days prior to receiving that email.

00:10:01.660 And I had been on the phone with Tommy Robinson privately confirming that I would be speaking

00:10:06.380 at that rally and now when we you know when we're talking about the many many attacks on free speech

00:10:12.880 here in europe for your audience i received a message from apple a year ago saying that my

00:10:18.340 phone was under mercenary spyware attack meaning someone's listening to me all of the time and i

00:10:24.240 don't know you know i i can only speculate but i wouldn't be surprised if someone thought

00:10:28.780 hmm the fact that she's calling out starmer for what he is in my opinion and that she's planning

00:10:34.920 to go and speak again at that rally and it was such a success last time we want to avoid that

00:10:39.780 from happening uh again and they banned me already back in january and now they're banning

00:10:44.020 basically everyone who was coming from abroad to speak at that rally let me ask you why what are

00:10:50.980 they so what are they so enthralled with i mean they have they have um pushed aside all of the 0.90

00:10:59.900 working class the farmers they've destroyed the factories i mean england really doesn't have

00:11:06.380 you know any manufacturing left to to speak of here so i don't know where their growth is going

00:11:13.020 to come from you know i guess people think the financial markets that ain't going to happen

00:11:16.580 um they've they've destroyed these communities now they've moved in people that just don't seem

00:11:23.940 to want to be english they don't want the culture they want their own culture well you had that

00:11:29.300 culture where you came from go you go back that's fine i'm not saying anything bad about your culture 0.97

00:11:33.600 but it's not this culture and it you know sharia law in particular is incompatible with the western 0.88

00:11:41.800 culture it it cannot happen or coexist and the list of countries where they've tried it shows

00:11:50.220 it fails every single time i'm trying to figure out where these elites think they're going to end

00:11:57.020 up? I mean, how do they even begin to think this is going to work for their country? What is their

00:12:03.000 plan? I mean, you know, I think it's very sinister. If you manage to completely suppress any sense of

00:12:10.740 identity and national pride in your own people, you weaken them. You know, you take away all of

00:12:15.960 the landmarks that once made them great. You take away their means to stand up for themselves and

00:12:21.680 say, I don't want to be treated by you this way. I don't want to be thrown in jail by you just

00:12:26.420 because I say something that you disagree with or that threatens your power, because that's what

00:12:30.520 this boils down to, right? I mean, in the United Kingdom, Keir Starmer is putting ordinary citizens

00:12:35.520 in jail for saying things that he doesn't like, especially when it comes to immigration,

00:12:40.780 especially when it comes to Islam. Because, you know, if you go against that and if you say,

00:12:45.400 no, I do take pride in my culture, in my heritage, in my history, and I don't want to see it destroyed,

00:12:51.100 well, then, you know, you go against them. You go against what they've been doing and they will not

00:12:55.300 get reelected. And obviously, Keir Starmer has an approval rate that is at an historic low.

00:13:01.420 So this man is just holding on to power for dear life. And I don't think that he

00:13:05.700 that he really thinks about or doesn't care, at least what type of message it sends

00:13:10.820 to the to the world to say, OK, we're going to throw our own citizens in jail.

00:13:15.640 And then the people who we can't throw in jail because they are not our citizens,

00:13:19.340 We're just going to ban. But, you know, what they want to avoid is to see that massive crowd that we saw in September of all these people waving their flags, showing that national pride, saying, no, I am I am English.

00:13:34.760 I am British. I am proud to be British. And Keir Starmer. Well, they said a lot of things that were maybe even less nice, you know, than what I said about him when they were there.

00:13:45.880 and he clearly fears that so that's what i think this comes down to they want to they want to

00:13:50.800 suppress that at all costs well they came out with uh you know there'd be 4 000 police officers

00:13:56.780 there they're not going to put up with anything on the stage and if anybody says anything

00:14:01.060 that agitates they will be dealt with quickly and taken to jail i mean um i know what i'm going to

00:14:09.240 say and i'm not going to change a word i don't care you know i don't care i'm not gonna i mean

00:14:13.920 I don't even know what that is.

00:14:15.280 I don't even know what you're, what are you threatening?

00:14:18.060 What are you so afraid of?

00:14:20.020 What kind of speech is it that you are so afraid of?

00:14:23.620 I mean, I understand if you are actually going out

00:14:25.760 and you're calling for violence, that's another thing.

00:14:28.960 But if you're just saying, I am proud of my country,

00:14:31.620 I'm proud of our heritage.

00:14:33.200 I don't denigrate other people's heritage,

00:14:35.960 but if you are going to come here,

00:14:38.080 you have to live by our laws

00:14:40.700 and there can't be a two-tier justice system.

00:14:43.920 you can't rape our children you can't do that and and why are they not being prosecuted and yet

00:14:53.260 you're looking and measuring every word i say here it it doesn't make any sense what is it that 0.57

00:14:59.260 they're afraid of it's a disgrace it's a disgrace exactly i mean kira starmer was nicknamed two-tier

00:15:05.780 cure for a reason it's exactly that i mean also my uh my case now the fact that i've been banned

00:15:12.480 You know, I'm a Dutch woman without a criminal record. I'm a lawyer. I'm a commentator. I've never done anything illegal. So, you know, the only crime that I've committed is speaking my mind. And he bans me from entering the country for a day, yet allows hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come in who are there to claim social benefits, who do not want to assimilate into English society whatsoever.

00:15:39.040 we've seen that you know that we are beyond that now and i think what he's so afraid of especially

00:15:44.520 in my case was saying look keir starmer you are an evil and despicable man because you have

00:15:49.940 betrayed your own people and that is not something that you know is something that we should easily 0.80

00:15:55.800 forgive uh keir starmer should be out of office should have been out of office like but is it just

00:16:01.580 is it is it just keir starmer because this is all part of the great reset i mean this is happening

00:16:07.200 in your country and all over europe and if if donald trump if we if somehow or another it fails

00:16:14.580 and you don't get a marco rubio or jd vance or somebody who understands what donald trump is

00:16:19.040 trying to do it's all going to come rushing back to america as well yes that's right it's not just

00:16:24.920 keir starmer it's not it's not just keir starmer i mean you know the united kingdom left the

00:16:30.160 european union we are still stuck in with the european union looming over our heads restricting

00:16:36.280 our speech deciding what happens to our borders uh eroding our national identities you know even

00:16:42.760 just the idea of democracy really doesn't exist in the way that it should in a sense that we have

00:16:49.560 supranational organizations dictating what our laws should be because they have presidents over

00:16:55.100 the laws that we make in our national parliaments you know so the people that we represent or that

00:17:00.540 represent us that we vote into office they are below in hierarchy unelected bureaucrats who stand

00:17:08.400 for exactly that same agenda of what you call the great reset and that's that's the the globalist

00:17:14.500 agenda of course you have to erode this all these national identities and you have to suppress that

00:17:19.560 national pride in order to create that world that they then of course can govern without control

00:17:25.780 Because, I mean, democracy and globalism, that doesn't go together.

00:17:29.320 That doesn't work.

00:17:30.500 So you're right.

00:17:31.320 It's not just Keir Starmer.

00:17:32.880 It's everywhere.

00:17:34.140 In Europe, at least, it's really bad.

00:17:36.120 With Orban out of office, we also lost one of our strongest fighters against that system.

00:17:40.440 So even though I'm someone who's hopeful and always will be because I believe in God and I believe that, you know, good will eventually prevail, we are in a dire situation.

00:17:50.260 There's no doubt about it.

00:17:52.560 Does Western civilizations arrive?

00:17:55.780 it has to it has to and you know you myself and i think many other people

00:18:01.120 will are willing to dedicate their lives to fighting for it at least and that's the most

00:18:06.200 important thing eva thank you so much i hope we get to meet someday thank you me too be safe have

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00:19:31.660 station id okay here's here's uh something that you know you should be aware of and this has

00:19:48.420 happening in all of our countries i am here to support the british to let the british know that

00:19:54.240 people in america are watching and we support them and we're with them you know as long as

00:19:58.840 it's peaceful um and somebody has to look at the the facts listen to this a vienna back survey of

00:20:05.400 1200 people ages 14 to 21 found that 65 of young muslims said islamic rule sharia law needs to

00:20:14.080 govern daily life um meanwhile austrian officials called the findings a failure of integration

00:20:22.700 and warm the country warned that the country must not become a caliphate i think that would be top

00:20:27.200 on my list you know on the to-do list that should be an easy one to check yeah let's not become a

00:20:31.880 caliphate um meanwhile here in uh london they are having the big um rally on saturday and you can

00:20:41.500 watch it on glenbeck.com slash torch become a member of the torch i'm going to be speaking

00:20:47.080 what nine or ten uh we think we're not we are going to start the stream at 9 a.m eastern

00:20:53.100 you if you can get there it's about a one mile walk if he'll be speaking around 10 10 30 we're

00:21:00.580 all walking to there may have a big march and then you know those of us who are going to speak

00:21:05.760 i'm going to speak and you can watch it all at glenbeck.com slash torch i'm here because i think

00:21:11.260 this is historic one way or another i haven't figured it out yet i don't know i don't know

00:21:15.580 i don't know exactly why i'm here i know exactly what i'm supposed to say but i don't know exactly

00:21:20.900 why i'm here um but i feel this is a very historic turning point moment that you should be witness to

00:21:27.560 and i wanted to be witness to um but at the same time they're doing this the city of london has

00:21:34.560 also given permission for a Nakba march. Now, if you don't know what Nakba is, Nakba in Arabic

00:21:44.520 means catastrophe. What is the day of catastrophe? The day Israel became a state. That's the

00:21:52.140 catastrophe. Israel becomes a state. And they say that Israel kicked all of these people out 0.99

00:21:57.660 of the state. Well, they didn't. They didn't. In fact, the Arab states were the ones that were

00:22:05.540 saying, get out, get out, get out, because we're coming in with our armies and we don't want to

00:22:09.080 kill innocent Palestinians, so get out. About 160,000 Palestinians stayed, and guess where

00:22:15.140 they are today? They're living in Israel as citizens of Israel. Israel said, stay, don't,

00:22:22.600 don't. We don't want war, don't. Well, the Arab world decided they were going to go for war,

00:22:27.660 wipe it out and they lost that war and so the people who left were not welcome back in uh some

00:22:33.720 of them were but not all of them i just want to throw this in um one person if you listen to the 0.94

00:22:39.480 show you know the meaning of this the guy who is really saying don't stay get out palestinians

00:22:46.300 because we're going to kill them all was haj amin al-housani you remember who he is he's the grand 0.92

00:22:53.620 Mufti, the key Palestinian leader, the guy who I believe started Hamas, and he was the one that 0.98

00:23:01.840 said, get out. All Palestinians need to get out. He's the guy who was playing kissy face with Adolf 1.00

00:23:10.200 Hitler. Not a good guy, not a good guy, but I don't think they're worried about the hate speech

00:23:15.540 coming from the Nakba rally, which is just going to be a few blocks away. This rally that I'm

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00:24:41.440 on tulsi gabbard versus the cia glenn is going to break it all down next on the glenn beck program

00:24:48.940 all right i want to play a clip from um the president in china today because everybody is

00:25:08.320 just kicking up they're very angry at donald trump for what he said here he is in a meeting

00:25:14.300 room full of, you know, I don't know who they are, Chinese people, as they're getting ready to talk

00:25:20.760 to presidents, see and listen to what President Trump says. Listen. You and I have known each

00:25:26.780 other now for a long time. In fact, the longest relationship of our two countries that any

00:25:33.380 president and president has had. And that's to me an honor. We've had a fantastic relationship.

00:25:41.060 We've gotten along. When there were difficulties, we worked it out.

00:25:44.540 I would call you and you would call me.

00:25:46.900 And whenever we had a problem, people don't know.

00:25:50.180 Whenever we had a problem, we worked it out very quickly.

00:25:53.080 And we're going to have a fantastic future together.

00:25:57.920 Such respect for China, the job you've done.

00:26:01.080 You're a great leader. I say it to everybody. You're a great leader.

00:26:04.420 Sometimes people don't like me saying it, but I say it anyway because it's true.

00:26:08.260 okay what did he just say that's so wrong first of all let's remember how i view donald trump

00:26:16.720 um he grew up uh with the power of positive uh thinking um that was literally the church that

00:26:24.640 he went to um he speaks things into existence that's why he said we have a fantastic future

00:26:30.520 in front of us i know i know for a fact because i've talked to the president he has when they've

00:26:35.920 had problems he has had uh he gets them on the phone and they talk and they solve things um they

00:26:41.660 have a very different relationship I think than than most uh do uh the president has I told you

00:26:47.100 a story I think it was yesterday the day before the president having dinner with presidency and um

00:26:52.360 and then going off and killing uh Soleimani and just excusing himself from the table excuse me

00:26:59.420 I'll be right back I have something to do goes upstairs goes to the safe he goes to the um the

00:27:04.140 Skiff watches the death of Soleimani, comes back, joins Z at the table and says, sorry,

00:27:11.520 I just had to kill General Soleimani in Iran.

00:27:16.280 And Z kind of looked at him and he was like, yeah. 0.96

00:27:19.780 And he did it intentionally to send the message.

00:27:22.460 I can just take care of this and have dinner with you.

00:27:24.820 And it's not really a big deal for the United States.

00:27:26.940 We can walk and juggle at the same time, plus chew gum.

00:27:31.020 at that same meeting if i'm not mistaken the president has told me that he had said something

00:27:37.700 along the lines of uh you don't want to do that and i don't remember what they were arguing back

00:27:43.100 and forth on he said but you don't want to do that because i can just make beijing disappear

00:27:46.520 which is kind of a threat of i'll launch nuclear missiles um and president z kind of laughed and

00:27:54.840 kind of like and then looked at trump and trump didn't break eye contact didn't laugh

00:27:59.400 uh and presidency got the got the message okay i don't really know who he is all right so that's

00:28:07.240 the relationship that i know that they have and i know very little okay um and i also know that

00:28:15.140 president trump has a way of dealing with people for instance he might like you and he will flatter

00:28:23.360 you and say great things and it feels good being in his presence when he says good things to you

00:28:27.840 and it feels bad when he doesn't but you have to understand that's the way he does things for

00:28:35.300 instance President Trump and I got along really well before he started running the first term

00:28:40.720 I didn't like him running for first term I was wrong and I thought he would be a I thought he

00:28:47.860 was a closeted liberal and he wasn't behaving that way two years into his term I said you know

00:28:55.760 what i'm wrong look at what he's doing he's not what i thought he was and i apologized on air

00:29:00.500 he called me and he was very nice now ricky last time we were with the president and we were leaving

00:29:07.560 and we were leaving the residence and we're walking down the stairs and you said to the

00:29:13.300 president joking don't worry he's gonna say nice things about you tomorrow right and what was his

00:29:19.840 response you're dead if you don't no he said don't worry about it uh all right he'll just 0.93

00:29:27.760 i'll just say that he's a big loser okay well he hasn't said that before i know he says that that's 0.97

00:29:33.500 what he does that's what he does now let's put that into global policy what does he do he says 0.94

00:29:41.460 um you know who's the short man from uh from south korea or north korea kim jong-un kim jong-un

00:29:47.940 he's like kim jong-un i love this guy he's great and then kim jong-un doesn't do anything he's like 0.96

00:29:53.740 i'm gonna launch some more missiles and so what does he do he's a big fat loser and he's a little 0.91

00:29:58.860 short guy and i might have to vaporize his gun then he flies over and he meets with him and what 0.98

00:30:05.920 does he do you're the greatest i love you you're wonderful and what happens we get what we need

00:30:11.820 from north korea that's the president's mo how many years do you need to watch him before you

00:30:19.220 recognize his pattern okay princes and people generally speaking prefer people who make them

00:30:28.440 feel strong and powerful and wise you you're not hanging out with somebody who is humiliating you

00:30:36.080 publicly right why would you do that even if you believe you're right if you're negotiating

00:30:41.420 this is the this is the principle that runs through uh the the prince machiavelli uh

00:30:47.580 machiavelli machiavelli i can't even say it machiavelli machiavelli um it uh it runs through

00:30:55.840 um the art of the deal all the way through and it's uncomfortable but it is human

00:31:01.960 people are not ruled by reason most are ruled by pride and fear and vanity and status and

00:31:10.820 insecurity and ambition so if you're a negotiator and you understand ego you're going to get farther

00:31:19.740 than somebody who just states the facts you know what you're a dictator you're killing people i

00:31:25.540 don't like you what is he going to do what are you going to get okay one of the core themes

00:31:31.360 in the prince is that rulers have to be handled according to their nature not according to the

00:31:38.640 moral wishes of how we wish they should behave and that means praise and symbolism and ceremony

00:31:45.020 why do you think why do you think china lined up all those people in front of trump's airplane

00:31:50.440 why do you think they did that because they wanted him to feel totally respected do you

00:31:57.020 think china likes president trump they don't like him at all why would they treat him like a

00:32:03.100 arriving hero because they want something phrase from um phrase from machiavelli uh let's see here

00:32:17.740 where was it uh he said men are so simple and so subject to present necessities that he who seeks

00:32:26.120 to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived okay this is this

00:32:32.940 is you do you want to be around people who make you feel big okay ben franklin understood this

00:32:39.760 there was something in the day called uh the franklin effect what franklin would do is he'd

00:32:46.140 ask somebody a rival for a favor now you would never think what why would i ask him for just i

00:32:52.160 need your help on something why i need your help i just i would like your i'd like your thoughts on

00:32:58.780 this you're bringing them in you're saying i really respect your judgment and i know you're

00:33:05.120 a helper i know you're somebody who will help me franklin was he was a bs artist like nobody's

00:33:12.200 business he was great he figured out if you ask somebody for a favor just hey can you just look

00:33:19.080 at this i respect your judgment all of a sudden the entire relationship changes okay uh dale

00:33:25.480 Carnegie. Ever heard that? His whole thing with Dale Carnegie is people defend their dignity

00:33:32.840 harder than they defend their truth. You get Trump, art of the deal. What does he do? Every

00:33:43.400 single time. Very smart. I like this guy. He's tough. He's strong. A lot of people don't like

00:33:51.700 me saying it but he's a fantastic guy what is he doing he's saying when he said a lot of people

00:33:58.060 don't like me saying this what is he saying i'm taking on my own people for you do you think that

00:34:05.640 just imagine you're the president of china does that feel good okay a person if you lose face

00:34:15.780 publicly the negotiation changes it stops being about interests and it becomes about survival and

00:34:23.920 ego and he knows that you know when henry kissinger why don't we ever talk why isn't anybody talking

00:34:28.300 about henry kissinger when he went and met with mal mal killed what 90 million people 0.55

00:34:34.580 and what happens millions die here comes the president's airplane and uh kissinger gets off 0.77

00:34:43.380 and uh and Kissinger calls him a philosopher a man of great historic vision he has strategic

00:34:53.260 insight he's he's disciplined and he understands history do you think he said that because he

00:34:59.800 liked Mao no he said that because we needed China on our side and off the side of the Soviet Union

00:35:08.800 that mattered more here's the thing we are no longer living in a society that understands

00:35:16.760 any of this we don't even understand comedians or laughter okay let alone the art of negotiation

00:35:23.680 or the art of war we just want to win we want to feel superior you get nowhere with that

00:35:29.600 we want jokes that don't result in laughter we want jokes that result in claptor we want the

00:35:37.480 jokes now they're like yes yes you've just confirmed me that i'm so smart the president

00:35:44.880 could go and make you feel really really good is that what's best for america because i don't care

00:35:51.000 how i feel today i want to know that this is good for me and my country in the long run today is

00:35:58.280 fleeting flattery america is not always about admiration it's about giving another human being

00:36:05.620 enough dignity to move in your direction i will tell you every time a moral scold you scold

00:36:13.340 somebody and you're you have the moral high ground you'll get the applause but the one who comes in

00:36:19.720 and flatters wins by the way breaking news presidency apparently just told trump he will

00:36:31.060 quote provide anything he needs to help him end the war in iran like i said i like that guy i like

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00:38:23.920 you know i'm just sick of i'm just sick of the media you know saying oh this is the way we deal 0.98

00:38:35.680 with china now oh shut up shut up you you had hunter and joe biden making all kinds of backroom 0.94

00:38:42.040 deals getting rich themselves on china deals this president has done more to hurt china and to help 0.98

00:38:49.240 America than any other president on China, I think maybe ever, maybe ever, at least since 1972.

00:38:58.360 He is doing it strategically. Here's an example of what you don't do strategically.

00:39:05.000 We're in the middle of negotiating with Iran, right? You want to negotiate with as much strength 0.95

00:39:10.720 as possible. So what happens in the Senate this week? Rand Paul, Susan Collins, and Murkowski

00:39:19.140 all come out and flip on the Iran on the Iranian war and they all say we don't need the president

00:39:25.740 doesn't have our support what is the biggest gift you could give to Iran you could show that

00:39:34.440 this support is fading I don't care if your support is fading I don't care if you call the

00:39:39.720 president up and you call him all the worst names in the world when you hang up the phone that's in

00:39:44.320 private you get back out and say we're with the president at least through the negotiations

00:39:49.780 you do whatever you want behind the scenes but this is that you've just lost the negotiations

00:39:58.100 what is wrong with people do they do they really not understand how negotiations work

00:40:04.580 or are they just so self-centered that all they care about is the next election i know ran paul

00:40:13.720 well enough to know he's principled on this he really doesn't like war he doesn't need to make

00:40:18.200 an announcement we know where he stands but murkowski and susan collins why are you jumping

00:40:24.340 into this right now why are you hurting us at the moment where we have iran hopefully close to the

00:40:32.760 end of this you're going to give them hope that you know what the americans might just give in on

00:40:37.500 this then they might turn on the president and they might have to they might have to leave we

00:40:41.780 could win this thing why would you do that why why would you do that i tell you i i just don't 1.00

00:40:51.000 believe the people in washington are this stupid i can believe that they are this self-centered 1.00

00:40:55.260 but i can't believe that they're this stupid and uh just occasionally it would be really nice 1.00

00:41:02.540 uh to see some people who actually put their country first you know i like fetterman's stance 0.99

00:41:08.100 Fetterman's against this I mean he agrees with going in and stopping and making sure they don't 0.75

00:41:13.940 have a you know a nuke but he's not a big fan of this and his stance has been we're in it now

00:41:21.240 so whatever that's my stance it doesn't matter what I thought before or after you're in it now

00:41:28.040 the decision has been made you can have the debate at the appropriate times but the appropriate time

00:41:34.320 is not while you're in peace negotiations.

00:41:38.480 You want to look like the most bloodthirsty people

00:41:41.560 you can possibly look like when you're in negotiations.

00:41:45.000 It's called negotiations.

00:41:46.880 It's called bluffing.

00:41:49.760 Why does the Senate and the Congress always,

00:41:53.200 and our media, always choose to take cards

00:41:56.600 off our side of the table when we need them the most?

00:42:01.000 The hell is wrong with people.

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00:44:05.060 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:44:08.960 Glenn Beck is on.

00:44:11.800 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:44:13.760 We're glad you're here.

00:44:14.640 Thank you so much for listening.

00:44:15.900 I just don't understand what's happening with the Fauci, CIA, MKUltra thing.

00:44:23.620 I mean, I don't even know what, what are we even arguing about anymore?

00:44:26.280 I don't, I'm completely lost.

00:44:27.900 Is it just me? I yesterday, a CIA employee testified to a Senate panel about something really important that Fauci influenced the intelligence report to downplay that that the virus most likely came from a lab leak in China.

00:44:46.360 finally we have somebody who is verifying this and then 20 minutes into it he starts talking about

00:44:54.380 missing jfk files and mk ultra files and now the world has lost its mind i want to show you this

00:45:02.340 cycle it is insane it's just insane we'll get to that here in just a second first let me tell you

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00:46:29.080 is testifying and this is a really big deal okay fauci wait a minute we have proof now and we have

00:46:35.260 somebody verifying fauci influenced the cia intelligence report and and said you know downplay

00:46:43.380 the virus thing came from a lab in china why would he do that that verifies absolutely everything

00:46:49.500 we've already know this is a really big deal then we start talking about missing files and

00:46:56.180 conflicting testimony and the experts who have reversed themselves and the agencies who suddenly

00:47:01.200 can't find documents that apparently existed yesterday and who moved them from the office

00:47:05.320 and the leaked emails and the intelligence briefings and the accusations and the counter

00:47:08.740 accusations the media cycles that are going to burn white hot and then vanish in two or three

00:47:15.160 days like none of this ever happened and we won't get to the bottom of covid 20 minutes into this

00:47:21.860 thing yesterday this expert talking about fauci brings something else up that is important in and

00:47:30.660 of itself okay missing jfk files and missing mk ultra files wait a minute what and they were in

00:47:36.820 whose office and who went it was at a raid not a raid and everything is lost everything is lost

00:47:42.600 and this is why i think this is why i feel this way i think the average person sits in their

00:47:49.380 kitchen or their truck every day listening to shows like this and they just are like i don't

00:47:53.500 even care anymore i don't even know why i listen to this stuff why do i pay attention i mean i

00:47:58.440 don't even know who to believe. I don't know what's true, what's not. This is the most dangerous

00:48:03.740 place a free people can arrive. Because once there's a collapse in trust completely, once

00:48:09.780 it's completely gone, once every institution sounds like a rival propaganda arm, we can't

00:48:16.740 reason together. And look at us. We can barely reason. We can't reason our way out of a wet

00:48:21.660 paperback right now let's look at these stories boxes of cia related files reportedly discovered

00:48:30.460 questions again about what intelligence agencies knew when they knew it who handled the investigations

00:48:37.880 the origin of the investigations who helped shape the narrative publicly versus privately

00:48:43.980 and at the same time renewed scrutiny around anthony fauci his testimony internal communications

00:48:49.600 gain of function debates funding questions the attempt to define terms after the fact the guy

00:48:56.260 calls himself science himself and whether the american people and the people of the world were

00:49:02.300 given the truth during one of the largest societal disruptions in history well we can't have any of

00:49:09.920 that out we can't have any of that out so what do we do turn on the machine we got to just turn on

00:49:16.900 the machine get somebody to scream cover-up and because then the other side will scream

00:49:20.680 conspiracy theory and then cable news will pick teams let me guess the msnbc will be for the left

00:49:27.660 and uh and fox will be for the right and god only knows what cnn is doing does anybody even watch

00:49:34.640 social media filled with amateur detectives and professional liars and politicians that will take

00:49:44.200 all of this and turn it into just fundraising copy. This is why we need your money now more

00:49:49.740 than ever. The stakes are too high. Give, give, give. Meanwhile, the little baby in

00:49:59.760 between us, the truth suffocates. And why does that happen? Because for one reason,

00:50:11.360 we're all goldfish we cannot pay attention and and and and stay focused on one thing for more

00:50:18.820 than five seconds and then the other thing is we can't admit that the world is not entirely black

00:50:25.880 and white there are there is good and evil but there is also shades of gray when it comes to

00:50:32.600 which side is good side and which side is the bad side people said some absolutely crazy things

00:50:38.040 during covid that were wrong they've put a chip inside of the vaccine they're chipping all of us

00:50:43.960 they're going to be tracking all of us not true not true and then there was a lot of stuff that

00:50:50.240 was said that sounded crazy and these institutions just dismissed legitimate questions

00:50:56.840 and those people were wrong wait both sides can't be right and wrong yes they can yes they can

00:51:05.840 This is the part that modern America and the rest of the world has forgotten.

00:51:11.100 Reality usually is complicated enough and fair enough to humiliate everybody to some degree or another.

00:51:20.180 Science is not a church.

00:51:24.660 Intelligence agencies are not infallible or always good or always bad.

00:51:32.440 Politicians are not priests.

00:51:34.580 skeptics are not automatically prophets or kooks

00:51:39.600 the real problem is you know i looked at this these two stories i thought what what are we

00:51:47.160 even going for what what are the what can what principle should we be looking for we don't know

00:51:53.480 how to separate principles from tribes so let me try on this one forget about fauci for a second

00:51:59.280 forget about the cia for a second those are both really important but forget about republicans

00:52:04.340 versus Democrats. Forget about whether you wore a mask or you refused one. What are the principles

00:52:10.280 here? Because that's where an adult should begin. So here they are. Principle number one.

00:52:17.720 In a free society, the government must never, ever knowingly mislead the public during a crisis.

00:52:25.200 I don't even know if I have to say in a crisis. It should never knowingly mislead people.

00:52:30.020 and in a crisis because you know they'll say you know the people might panic as a result

00:52:35.900 what even if you think the public can't handle uncertainty you have to tell the truth i don't

00:52:46.100 care if you think you're acting for noble reasons it's not a noble act to lie once authorities

00:52:53.540 decide they can shape reality you know to give the people for their own good self-government 0.52

00:53:00.500 begins to die and you know what you get you get a bunch of hapless rubes like we have now they're 0.98

00:53:06.720 like i don't know what's going on i don't i don't know who did we break away from with the american 0.98

00:53:12.440 revolution was it vietnam principle number two scientific debate must always remain open

00:53:22.600 especially during emergencies the moment dissent becomes censorship science is corrupted real

00:53:32.340 science survives questioning in fact it depends on it and we now know absolutely know that

00:53:42.420 serious credentialed experts were at times at best dismissed. They were throttled online. They

00:53:49.080 were professionally threatened or destroyed only for asking questions that later became mainstream

00:53:54.760 discussions that turned out to be right. That should terrify everybody. Left, right, independent,

00:54:01.940 doesn't matter. Everyone, everyone should look at what happened during COVID and go, geez, that can

00:54:06.320 never happen again. But it's going to. Why? Because we're not talking about it. We had a chance to

00:54:11.720 talk about it and then missing boxes principle number three intelligence agencies cannot become

00:54:21.000 domestic narrative managers and this one really matters the cia why do they exist what is their

00:54:30.160 charter their charter is to gather foreign intelligence not shape what americans are allowed

00:54:38.360 to think. The FBI, what do they exist for? To investigate federal crimes, not referee political

00:54:47.520 speech. Once these agencies begin acting like guardians of acceptable reality, the Constitution,

00:54:55.140 it might as well be Alka-Seltzer. Throw some water on it. It'll dissolve.

00:55:00.400 History is full of governments that convince themselves we're just protecting democracy

00:55:05.160 as they strangle it to death. Principle number four, skepticism has to be disciplined.

00:55:15.020 This one's just as important as the other. Just because institutions have lied before

00:55:21.140 does not mean that every rumor is true. A free people cannot survive on paranoia.

00:55:28.720 we can't survive on not trusting anything if every missing file becomes proof of a global

00:55:36.400 conspiracy then reason collapses from the other direction you cannot build a healthy society

00:55:43.260 on blind trust or no trust you can't build one on blind suspicion either

00:55:50.560 which leaves you sitting in your truck or your kitchen go i don't even want to listen anymore

00:55:57.360 I don't even know.

00:55:57.980 How do you even find the truth?

00:55:59.480 I don't even know.

00:56:00.060 What is the truth?

00:56:01.880 That's the real question.

00:56:05.960 And perhaps the answer is harder than we want it to be.

00:56:10.900 Because here's the truth on that one.

00:56:13.080 You're not going to get a movie ending.

00:56:14.900 You're not.

00:56:16.240 I highly.

00:56:18.080 In fact, I would be suspicious if we ever find that single binder that is stamped classified.

00:56:23.840 And you open it up and it's like, oh, my gosh, Fauci. 0.75

00:56:27.360 Killed JFK with MKUltra.

00:56:31.580 It doesn't work like that.

00:56:33.360 The truth emerges slowly, painfully, through contradictions, through documents that were released years later that should have been released right away.

00:56:42.780 Through patterns, through testimony, through comparing incentives.

00:56:50.960 Through people who, you know, are willing to revise their own beliefs when new evidence appears.

00:56:56.300 that's the one that really matters the most because the one thing that is the real crisis

00:57:03.040 in america is not institutional dishonesty alone it's the fact that nobody wants to be proven wrong

00:57:10.980 anymore nobody everything is identity now it's tribe and team and that's it if fauci lied some

00:57:20.260 people think i have to defend that to the very end because my worldview completely collapses no

00:57:26.180 what doesn't that part of your worldview collapses and it will feel good when you the truth shall set

00:57:32.020 you free if certain covid skeptics exaggerated or spread nonsense others are going to feel exactly

00:57:40.200 the same panic but a mature adult society for it to survive it has to pursue truth over ego and

00:57:50.440 here's the only way you get to the truth truth that matters will you apply the truth will you

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01:00:46.300 10 seconds, station ID.

01:00:47.680 let me go to uh which is cut three two no cut two um this is jamie raskin yesterday trying to grill

01:01:11.160 a 16 year old high school student who is going in and saying look at my school they were handing

01:01:17.140 out Korans and all kinds of things about Islam. They didn't get permission from the school. There

01:01:23.460 was no notification, anything else. I couldn't have done that with my Republican club, let alone

01:01:27.320 I couldn't have handed out Bibles and, you know, rosary beads or whatever, you know, at the school

01:01:32.200 event. I just want, you know, equal justice here. Then Jamie Raskin gets a hold of this 16 year old

01:01:39.840 kid. Listen to this. Is there anybody on the panel who thinks that we need a special law

01:01:45.320 addressing any particular religious population,

01:01:49.320 whether it's the Muslim, the Christian, the Jewish,

01:01:52.220 the Hindu, the Mormon, or what have you?

01:01:54.220 Or are we just saying that everybody should be held

01:01:57.260 to secular law in America?

01:01:59.600 I think I'm happy to open it up to anybody.

01:02:01.460 Mr. Hunter Lopez.

01:02:05.960 Thank you, Congressman, for the question.

01:02:07.580 I think that you keep referring to a secular law.

01:02:09.460 I think it's important to point out,

01:02:10.760 I believe it was 56 of the 57 Declaration of Independence

01:02:13.680 signers were bible believing faith uh church attending christians i believe it was the first

01:02:18.060 original 13 colonies that required a declaration of faith so i'm not um acknowledging that well

01:02:22.860 wait a second now you're traversing my territory now mr hunter lopez you brought it up listen to

01:02:29.200 him listen what he's doing he's now making it about the kid and what he just said okay you

01:02:35.080 could say okay well i disagree with you but what's your point sir and no uh now he's picking a fight

01:02:39.940 with this kid go ahead um are you aware that the constitution of the united states does not

01:02:45.840 establish a religion it forbids it establishing religion are you aware that doesn't mention god

01:02:50.460 so uh the declaration of independence mentions god four times but what i was gonna say is the

01:02:55.260 declaration of independence law so um declaration of independence was declaring our independence

01:03:01.140 from the tyranny of india but what i was trying to finish is that i'm not um you know suggesting

01:03:07.240 that we need to go back to taking, you know, tests

01:03:10.000 or saying that you have to acknowledge religion.

01:03:11.420 By the way, do you know that Thomas Jefferson

01:03:12.820 was denounced as an infidel

01:03:14.660 who wrote the Declaration of Independence? 1.00

01:03:17.200 Now he comes in.

01:03:17.880 Because he didn't believe in the establishment of religion,

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01:03:22.980 about separating church and state.

01:03:24.800 That's the whole glory of our constitutional design 0.87

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01:03:28.380 Stop.

01:03:29.060 Here's what I wanted to do.

01:03:30.180 Here's what I wanted to do.

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01:03:35.740 If you just join this,

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01:06:05.200 This Saturday, free speech extremist Glenn Beck speaks in front of Parliament at the Unite the Kingdom rally.

01:06:11.300 You can watch history unfold in real time at 9 a.m. Eastern.

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01:06:21.580 i want to spend a few minutes just talking about history for a second um because if you don't know

01:06:35.500 history you're you're bound to repeat it and uh at least it'll be fun when you recognize the

01:06:41.900 parallels along the way you're like wait a minute i think we've been here before um i picked up a

01:06:47.380 book a couple of days ago started reading at the lost empire of emmanuel uh nobel um it is written

01:06:54.120 by one of my favorite history writers i think he's absolutely brilliant uh douglas brunt um and uh i

01:07:01.080 picked it up and last night i just wanted to read a chapter of it and i just i don't know how many

01:07:05.620 chapters i read it is so riveting it is the story of not only um emmanuel nobel nobel prize um he

01:07:14.980 is russian he's over in you know with the czars and everything else and he is just wealthy beyond

01:07:21.180 your wildest imagination because he takes what he sees rockefeller doing with oil and he improves

01:07:28.460 almost everything that he is doing and he becomes one of the wealthiest wealthiest men in the world

01:07:33.360 i didn't even i didn't know anything about that and then it also tells the story at the same time

01:07:39.960 that this is going on it follows this peasant kid who was trained to be a priest was going to go to

01:07:46.200 school to become a priest he stumbles on to Karl Marx finds this guy brilliant and he becomes

01:07:53.300 Stalin and so now when that whole revolution is happening and Stalin is hanging around and Lenin

01:08:00.720 everything else what's going to happen to this oil empire how is this guy going to get out is he

01:08:06.020 going to get out in time it's a riveting story douglas brunt is the author and he's with us now

01:08:10.180 hi hi doug how are you glenn it's great to be with you and as you say the more things change

01:08:15.060 the more they stay the same it's still all about communism and oil which is exactly the case in

01:08:20.580 the time of emmanuel novell who pioneered the russian oil industry as you say along the

01:08:24.980 caspian sea during the era of the last czars of the romanovs and that's exactly what's happening

01:08:32.420 right now with russia and ukraine same thing same same thing it's all about driving to capture the

01:08:40.540 sources of energy it's exactly repeating itself so let me ask you i because i didn't know anything

01:08:48.880 about uh emmanuel nobel at all um he you know he invents dynamite right um uh and is you know

01:08:58.500 contributes a lot to war and then he does the nobel peace prize strangely but his achievements i mean

01:09:05.160 he did a lot and it's been ignored by most people what turned you on to this why did you think this

01:09:11.540 story had to be told well it's fascinating alfred nobel uh invented dynamite and lived over more in

01:09:18.740 france and italy and then established the prizes when his obituary was incorrectly printed in the

01:09:24.040 papers they the wrong nobel uh was reported to have died in the paper so he wakes up alive and

01:09:30.120 well reads his obituary that calls him a merchant of death for having invented dynamite he says oh

01:09:34.580 my god this is not how i want to be remembered so he establishes the prizes by rewriting his will

01:09:38.880 but the russian nobels were far bigger industrialists emmanuel emmanuel nobel is the

01:09:44.100 nephew they're not the same they're not related they're not the same they're emmanuel is the

01:09:50.860 nephew of Alfred. So Alfred invested in the petroleum business, but Emmanuel was in southern

01:09:56.940 Russia on the Caspian Sea. And he was also a munitions manufacturer and an engine manufacturer.

01:10:03.700 He actually was the world's leading manufacturer of diesel engines, which is how I stumbled across

01:10:09.260 because I'd written a book about Rudolph diesel and the diesel engine. And Nobel was his business

01:10:14.660 partner. And he took all of his engineering expertise and went down to Baku in modern day

01:10:20.060 azerbaijan where they were basically just skimming pools of oil there was no technology

01:10:26.180 down there he brought technology and as you say replicated what rockefeller had already been doing

01:10:30.660 in america and became one of the world's leading oil producers by the time of the great war they

01:10:36.340 were producing more oil even than standard oil they were they were the biggest oil company in

01:10:41.020 the world and we don't know the name it's the craziest story that people don't know

01:10:44.920 because of his collision with Stalin and Lenin and the Bolsheviks.

01:10:49.820 And what Stalin did to Emmanuel Nobel was the inspiration for George Orwell's 1984.

01:10:56.440 That whole book, that whole passage where they say the streets were renamed,

01:10:59.900 the statues torn down, the history rewritten.

01:11:02.840 That's what Stalin did to Emmanuel Nobel.

01:11:05.580 He turned him into a political unperson and erased him.

01:11:09.660 So we only know about Alfred, who was outside of Russia.

01:11:11.920 but the bigger nobel story was inside russia and just completely paved over by the communists

01:11:17.660 so is he known well known in russia now not really not really because so is this kind of like a is

01:11:27.580 this a is this a renewal of him now is this this is like the first shot of like really coming and

01:11:35.000 saying hey this guy existed and is important there are little stories out there in stockholm

01:11:41.140 There are some Nobel archives that have a lot of what the Russian Nobels were doing in Baku.

01:11:47.040 And in Azerbaijan, since the fall of communism, they're a little bit leaked out as well in archives there.

01:11:52.000 But it's a largely untold story even now, because right after the revolution, the Russian revolution, when they nationalized all the businesses, they renamed the Nobel Brothers Petroleum Company to be the Soviet Petroleum Company.

01:12:04.540 And his manufacturing firm up by St. Petersburg, building the engines and munitions, they renamed Rusky Diesel.

01:12:11.500 So they just completely paved over it.

01:12:13.640 And the West largely doesn't know the Nobel story.

01:12:19.420 What would Russia be like today if that hadn't have happened?

01:12:23.400 I mean, I was shocked by the guy was unbelievable.

01:12:27.680 The parties that you described that he had were shocking, even in America, 1920s kind of style. 0.92

01:12:34.540 but he also seemed like a really decent kind of guy, not your evil, ugly capitalist. He seemed 0.65

01:12:42.400 like he was really a good guy. True? Very, very true. In terms of the labor practices in Russia

01:12:49.800 at that time, particularly, he was a very enlightened kind of employer. He built schools

01:12:55.520 and hospitals and employee housing infrastructure for leisure pastimes of his employees. Well,

01:13:01.520 Most of the other oil producers in the Baku region, it was a horrible place to work. They were living in really ramshackle living conditions. So when there were uprisings in Russia under the czars, they nearly migrated into sort of a constitutional monarchy and did it peacefully.

01:13:18.560 But there were uprisings like in 1905, the Bloody Sunday in St. Petersburg. Baku also saw revolutionary elements there. And Stalin was, of course, agitating in southern Russia. Nobel's infrastructure was protected by his employees because he was a good boss.

01:13:34.160 And so while the infrastructure of the Rothschilds, for example, who were the other big oil producer in southern Russia, they suffered enormous amounts of sabotage and fires.

01:13:44.700 But Nobel didn't because his employees would say, no, this is a good guy. This is a good boss. He's not one of the capitalist pigs that we need to take out.

01:13:52.600 And so when he does come into that collision with Stalin and the Ren Arby during the Russian Civil War, many of his employees rather than, you know, throw him into some kangaroo court and try to murder him. 0.81

01:14:03.980 They're actually protecting him because he was a he was actually a good capitalist.

01:14:09.280 I'm I'm fascinated. Don't want you to tell me I'm fascinated.

01:14:12.260 You start it just so great. You start at the just about the end where you're like, is he going to get out?

01:14:19.200 Stalin's coming after him. Is he going to get out?

01:14:21.080 um and i i don't don't tell me but um really really well written dog really well written

01:14:28.080 you're a great storyteller and i'm obviously a fan thank you i think you were you were my uh

01:14:32.800 you were my brother in history i didn't you and i are just view the world the same way and value

01:14:37.440 history the same way so i i love that you uh have had a chance to pick it up and and uh oh yeah you

01:14:43.800 know it's great to connect with you about it i love it yeah um give me the give me the one thing

01:14:50.620 that you hope people take away from it that applies to today well i you know it's still

01:14:58.720 about chasing down the oil there's this letter for example that emmanuel nobel in 1919 just as

01:15:05.080 balfour foreign minister the british foreign minister balfour is in versailles and they're

01:15:08.920 sort of wrapping up the peace terms of world war one and he's saying i'm telling you stalin and the

01:15:14.520 red army they're coming to baku they're going to get this oil and if they don't get here he writes

01:15:18.700 this in spring of 19 and he writes if they don't get here by august of 19 the communism is done

01:15:23.740 they'll choke out for lack of oil but the british who currently held back who had only about a

01:15:28.000 thousand troops there he's saying you need to reinforce your position or it's over and no one

01:15:32.580 had you know world war one just ended no one had an appetite for it churchill's saying the same

01:15:36.220 thing send us 100 000 troops in there we can nip communism in the bud we almost had a 20th century

01:15:41.380 in which communism never appeared not in russia not in china not in korea cuba vietnam only by

01:15:48.400 the narrowest little window did stalin get through there and it was all because he did get to baku

01:15:53.100 he did get the oil which by the way repeats itself throughout the century world war ii the battle for

01:15:58.780 stalingrad with hitler on his way down to baku to get the oil the battle for stalingrad was really

01:16:03.760 the battle for baku so it's it's all gosh you know it's the story of our times it has been for 100

01:16:10.180 years i was gonna say it's it's also what's happening in the strait of hormuz i mean the

01:16:17.480 president is playing this game and whether it works or not i don't know but he is going for

01:16:23.140 the choke points he's going for the world's oil he is trying to make sure that nobody else has

01:16:28.680 real control over it and if it would work it will change the next hundred years if it doesn't

01:16:35.240 it changes the next 100 years i mean we're kind of at that point it's so true glenn you can pick

01:16:43.600 up a newspaper today and it's the story of our times it first began with emmanuel nobel in baku

01:16:50.200 that was the first instance of it but ever since it that is that's what's driving all of our

01:16:57.340 political and industrial decisions

01:16:59.320 unbelievable what a great book the lost empire of emmanuel nobel uh by uh douglas brunt you're

01:17:08.720 going to love if you love history you're going to love this it's really really well written a

01:17:12.740 great story stuff you've never heard before you know communist and everything i mean it's really

01:17:19.020 a great story lost empire of emmanuel nobel you will love it pick it up now i'm reading it as we

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01:19:07.200 welcome to the glenbeck program uh we're in uh london uh for i think something historic i i'm 0.91

01:19:30.800 I'm not sure how to read this whole thing because I'm not into the politics of England, but I know that they have a real issue and I hope that they stand up peacefully and address the real issues.

01:19:46.520 You know, having a hard time talking about real issues today because everybody likes to get sidetracked on absolutely anything.

01:19:53.280 I just did an interview with Doug Brunt.

01:19:55.960 I get some emails from people.

01:19:58.440 How dare you have Doug Brunt on?

01:20:00.000 How dare you? 0.93

01:20:00.480 you know who he is yeah uh well i can't believe you would have him on why why well his wife is

01:20:09.880 making or his husband is his wife is megan kelly and he's also a great writer and we weren't talking

01:20:19.540 about megan or anything else well you know what megan believes no i actually don't know what

01:20:25.080 megan believes i don't know she's a friend of mine always been a friend of mine and i'm not

01:20:29.160 going to get bogged down into the hate everybody because we disagree even either even if we

01:20:34.020 disagree vehemently i'm not going to hate them um and i'm certainly not going to isolate myself i

01:20:41.000 mean you want to have you want to have zero influence isolate yourself call everybody an

01:20:45.600 enemy and isolate yourself then you'll be able to change people's minds what i mean what what

01:20:50.440 sense does that make and one last thing on this what does doug have to do with the megan kelly show

01:20:58.020 he is one of my favorite history writers he is a fantastic writer we see history very much the

01:21:07.900 same way this is a great book if my wife was you know she wrote a great book would you think it

01:21:17.660 would be cool for her to be boxed out by let's say let's just reverse it Megan Kelly she my wife 0.83

01:21:24.240 writes a good book how dare you have tanya on that's you know who's who's who's who she's 0.98

01:21:31.440 married to it's glenn beck what does my wife have to do with me talking about a book he'll love a

01:21:37.500 pete anyway i highly recommend you read the book because i think it's really really good if you

01:21:43.520 like history it's a really good history book anyway um you know it's kind of like that here

01:21:50.260 in england too it's weird uh i don't think anybody can actually talk about the problem they want to

01:21:54.680 talk about personalities they don't want to actually talk everybody will talk to you about

01:21:59.600 tommy robinson no one will actually talk to you about hey how come they're raping children and

01:22:05.260 nobody is saying anything how come they're not going to jail how come they can get away with

01:22:11.440 things that you would never be able to get away with it's a two-tiered justice system i think

01:22:16.040 that's wrong yeah but you know who tommy robinson is no not really i mean i've met him i know his

01:22:21.740 history well you know he's been in jail yeah and donald trump's a rapist so what do i know

01:22:27.080 why don't we focus on the issue can we stop making it about personalities let's focus on the issue

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01:27:29.660 preparewithglenn.com that's preparewithglenn.com host of the podcast liz trust show and former

01:27:36.640 prime minister of the united kingdom liz welcome hi great to be on god it's so good to see you

01:27:41.760 again um last time you were on with me you said you thought that by 2030 england could be but you

01:27:50.680 had hope for it could be a failed state and is it getting better or worse it's getting worse i mean

01:27:56.860 if you look at the state of our public finances, our debt, the bond markets, we're approaching a

01:28:03.580 financial crisis. If you look at illegal immigration, we have a crisis there. If you

01:28:09.720 look at all the issues that have been brushed under the carpet, the grooming gangs that haven't

01:28:15.240 been dealt with, the crime that we're seeing in our cities, and the general decay and stagnation

01:28:21.420 in this country we are very very close to the edge so i was i just got here on sunday and i'm

01:28:28.140 staying here in downtown london staying in a nice hotel you know doing all nice shopping and seeing

01:28:33.600 all the sights and everything looks wonderful looks like it did five years ago when i was here

01:28:37.640 three years ago um and i on day number two i'm like this doesn't match what i'm reading and what

01:28:44.380 i'm seeing when i'm overseas and i realized well because i'm not out in the suburbs and i thought

01:28:49.460 is that what is happening in the with the elites that all of this looks fine but you go outside

01:28:57.060 the there is no manufacturing in here there's no industrial base anymore your farmers are screaming 1.00

01:29:02.660 for help you know job losses the the the problems with you know the the migrants coming in and just 1.00

01:29:10.280 completely changing the culture and the and the cities the rape gangs and everything else 1.00

01:29:15.320 is it that the elites because media is here finance is here uh government is here it's all

01:29:22.000 in just a very small area we are in a huge bubble here right in london and the people that benefit

01:29:28.860 from the system the government is spending half of our national income so if you're a bureaucrat

01:29:33.660 you know if you're in the media that's also supported by the state like the bbc if you're

01:29:38.980 in a bank that has been bailed out by the government you're doing okay and the waves

01:29:44.360 that are lapping up have not hit you yet but if you go to a northern town where you've lost the

01:29:50.480 steel plant you've lost the car plant because of our crazy energy policies our energy prices are 1.00

01:29:57.020 four times what they are in the u.s or you know your daughter has been raped by a pakistani muslim 0.97

01:30:03.120 grooming gang and the police have done nothing about it because they don't want to be seen as 0.88

01:30:06.940 racist if you are somewhere like that you are very very angry about what's happened in our country and

01:30:14.000 just to give you a comparison, Glenn, in the year 2000, the average Brit was about as well

01:30:19.920 off as the average American. We are now, you are now 50% richer in terms of income per capita,

01:30:28.640 and we are poorer than Mississippi. You know, we're poorest, we're poorest,

01:30:34.920 yeah, the poorest state in America. And we have had stagnation, absolute stagnation for the last

01:30:42.760 decade, decade or so. And it is hitting people really hard. And that is why we had

01:30:48.420 the massive reaction we saw at the local election. So here in London, people are waiting for the

01:30:54.620 Labour Party or the Green Party. But in places like Rotherham or Doncaster, they've all gone to

01:31:00.840 reform because they are so angry with what's happening in our country. So you can look at

01:31:06.720 you can look at the map to see where the rich areas are that are doing OK and benefiting from

01:31:12.620 the status quo and everyone else who has been hugely let down so i know in every other country

01:31:19.620 a hundred years ago what that would mean if you had a crown on your head but you can't ignore

01:31:25.060 the average person that is the backbone of of your country and expect to it to last i mean what is

01:31:34.600 the plan from but this is literally what kirsten has been doing he's had his hands over his ears

01:31:39.700 he's blamed all of the country's problems on the far right you know he has said that that is the

01:31:46.860 issue that we're not close enough to the eu even though even though they're stagnant as well right

01:31:52.540 you know and he said the problem is you know president trump he said the problem is liz trust

01:31:57.240 the problem is brexit he's blamed anybody apart from the terrible policies which is what has

01:32:05.120 brought our country to its knees which are things like our terrible energy policies our terrible

01:32:09.780 immigration policies our terrible public spending policies that's why we are in a terrible mess a

01:32:17.540 really terrible mess and you're in a worse mess in one way because you don't have the first amendment 0.95

01:32:23.140 which people think freedom of speech or freedom of religion no it's those are two out of the five

01:32:27.520 freedom of religion freedom of speech freedom to petition freedom to assemble freedom to go to

01:32:34.240 your government and saying wait a minute stop it you don't have any of that and so we used to have

01:32:39.320 it of course with the bill of rights 1689 but successive governments have legislated to take

01:32:46.400 away our freedom of speech and to introduce things like hate crime laws and these have been used but

01:32:52.320 this isn't hate crime that is happening on saturday i'm speaking at a rally i don't know everybody that

01:32:58.040 is speaking i'm not involved in european or or um you know uk politics but uh to be able to stand

01:33:06.000 up and challenge your government saying hey we just want equal access to the law and equal

01:33:12.220 punishment across the board for whoever you are um and now your prime minister is is banning people

01:33:20.320 from coming into the the city and into the country to say those words as if it's like something

01:33:26.760 crazy to say correct but if you say the wrong thing in britain according to keir starmer

01:33:32.280 you get put in jail so we had lucy connolly who was jailed for a tweet and she was jailed

01:33:38.740 for 31 months and what he's also doing is banning people he doesn't agree with

01:33:44.420 from entering the country including elected members of the european parliament

01:33:49.560 this is an attempt to suppress debate and suppress speech and yes because we don't have a first

01:33:55.680 amendment in britain it makes it easier for the government to do it they've used legislation that's

01:34:01.380 been passed over the last 30 years to prosecute people but even in america there were attempts

01:34:07.880 to suppress speech you know if you look at what biden did with the tech industry trying to

01:34:14.160 take people off things like twitter there's the same tendency of the left across the world it's

01:34:20.940 in the democrat party in america it's in the eu it's in the labor party here in britain to not

01:34:26.700 deal with the problems but to stop people talking about it we are living in some kind of weird

01:34:32.080 version of east germany but that is how bad it is people are banned from coming into the country

01:34:36.880 people are jailed for saying things but yet you have people on in boats just washing up on shore

01:34:42.860 and nobody's even saying yeah some people have suggested these speakers for tomorrow instead of

01:34:48.040 just jumped in a boat and then they'd be absolutely fine and and you know the the there's such a two

01:34:53.160 tier nature of the way all this is being dealt with so there's also a rally happening tomorrow

01:34:58.040 in the palestinian course and whereas they are using things like facial recognition for the unite

01:35:05.080 the kingdom rally they're not using that on the pro-palestinian protesters so you are seeing

01:35:11.220 a totally different approach to yeah i saw that i saw what the police that they're going to be

01:35:18.020 4 000 policemen facial recognition drones and everything else and i thought i'm not entirely

01:35:23.680 sure that's for the safety of the people attending the rally as much as it is the safety i guess of

01:35:32.000 of keir starmer and you know having an enemies list are you insinuating that that is kind of

01:35:39.120 what's happening well what i'm saying is there seems to be a very different approach being taken

01:35:44.500 to these two different sorts of rally and we've seen in Britain for example the chief constable

01:35:52.020 of the West Midlands had to retire because he was found fabricating evidence at the behest of the

01:35:58.800 local Islamists. See what we have seen is infiltration into our police of a particular 0.87

01:36:04.420 ideology and infiltration into other parts of the bureaucracy. This is a very serious issue and

01:36:12.540 Keir Starmer is part of that ideology. 0.99

01:36:15.020 He wants to appease the Islamists. 0.89

01:36:16.700 This is one of the reasons he didn't back President Trump in the Iran war. 0.96

01:36:20.860 He is desperately worried that they are losing voters to the Green Party,

01:36:24.780 who are even more nutty and even more communist than the Labour Party.

01:36:29.360 And this is what's resulted.

01:36:30.900 Our justice system, which was all about everybody should be treated equally before the law,

01:36:36.920 is now being undermined, completely undermined. 0.99

01:36:39.900 undermined well you have a i guess a media outlet here called five pillars which is a islamist

01:36:46.420 outlet and they have come out and said by the way tommy you should know all of the speakers that

01:36:53.320 were cancelled we're the ones that got the government to do it i mean that's an incredible

01:36:58.200 statement it is incredible and it is shocking what has happened and you would have thought

01:37:03.840 that the Home Office would have thought twice

01:37:07.980 before banning an elected member of the European Parliament,

01:37:13.920 a sister, you know, an ally of Britain, a Polish MEP.

01:37:19.300 But the problem is the ideologues have got hold of the agenda.

01:37:23.420 And one of the other deep problems that Britain has

01:37:27.300 is the bureaucracy and the judiciary have been given more and more power

01:37:31.660 and they're making more and more decisions i wouldn't be surprised if that decision

01:37:35.780 hadn't even gone to ministers i wouldn't be surprised if that decision wasn't made

01:37:41.080 by an unelected bureaucrat unbelievable and it's what's so scary is

01:37:46.460 we'd be right there with you if it hadn't been for donald trump we'd be right there with you

01:37:51.840 we all you know you see what's happening in canada the world has gone the western world

01:37:57.340 has gone insane and i can't figure out what their end goal is other than some sort of one world kind

01:38:04.900 of government where i don't know they're just where everybody is in a cage their end goal 0.98

01:38:10.060 is destroying the west it's destroying the west from within these are islamic communists if you 0.93

01:38:15.360 look at mandami or you look at zach polanski in britain that ends like iran that that that's what 0.97

01:38:21.900 happened in iran in 1979 the marxist and the islamist got together and i got news for you 0.97

01:38:27.320 the islamists kill the marxist in the end you know jail them or kill them so i don't know how 0.96

01:38:32.800 they're thinking they're going to win in the end but that what they are about is destructionism 1.00

01:38:39.720 they're about destroying the things i hate what do they hate they hate patriotism

01:38:44.820 they hate the family you know they hate enterprise and business those are the things they are trying

01:38:53.440 to destroy it's true that they they're sowing the seeds of their own destruction because ultimately 0.99

01:38:58.460 the islamists will get them but that's not what they're thinking they're they're focused on 0.90

01:39:03.860 we want a wealth tax we want rent controls we want transgender rights we want men to be able 0.99

01:39:09.920 to go into women's bathrooms that's what they're focused on because they want to destroy the very 1.00

01:39:15.580 things that have made our countries great and they've been trying to do this and they've been 1.00

01:39:19.820 successful for decades. When I'm talking about our institutions in Britain, those institutions

01:39:26.300 have been infiltrated over a number of years. And we've now reached the tipping point where

01:39:33.080 those people feel emboldened to say the things out loud in public that they were saying behind

01:39:39.540 closed doors before. So we have the governor of the Bank of England talking about getting closer

01:39:43.880 to the eu talking about net zero making essentially political points and this is what we're seeing

01:39:50.400 with the police it's what we're seeing with the home office we're seeing people who are meant to

01:39:54.740 be independent who are meant to be bureaucrats being political and none of them are political

01:40:00.360 on the right none of them so let me let me take a quick break and then come back and ask you because

01:40:07.140 i mean i have my concerns that donald trump can get deep enough into the institutions

01:40:13.360 to root that out you have legitimately a shadow government i mean you literally have a shadow

01:40:21.780 government um and uh and i i mean i don't know how you turn this around so i want to ask you

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01:42:31.960 So how do you save it? 0.82

01:42:33.760 Well, we need a Trump-style revolution in Britain. That's what we need. But we need it to last. And that's what you've been saying about President Trump. You need to win in the midterms. You need to win in 2028.

01:42:48.060 He told me before he won this last time, he said, Glenn, we need 12 years. To stomp this out, we need 12 solid years of the same policies, and we can stomp it out. Anything less, it won't work.

01:43:00.040 I think that's true. But if you look how long the left have been working on this, they've been working since the 60s. They started in the universities. They infiltrated the teaching unions. They will be working on this. And they're like cockroaches. They're very, very hard to take out. And they are very, very dedicated to pursuing their cause, which is ultimately Marxism. That's what they're dedicated to.

01:43:27.200 so i don't think this is i think that we can change things within a decade but i don't think

01:43:34.000 we won the battle forever yeah and even if you manage to change the government you still got

01:43:41.160 the culture in society and the fact is the culture now in britain the elite culture venerates 0.75

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01:43:56.460 over british patriots you know that's the problem the whole value system has been changed by the 0.75

01:44:03.400 left so yes we have to take over the deep state we have to completely change the way we run the

01:44:08.840 government we have to get new politicians in but it's a bigger battle than that for me

01:44:13.300 it's a battle about what we actually see as right and wrong in our countries right right right

01:44:18.760 but you you're all so polite you're all so very polite um uh and you have this i mean

01:44:28.000 not sure it's what the americans said in 1776 i know but you you you have this way of making

01:44:33.140 people from the carolinas look rude uh and uh and that's hard to do um we have we're open

01:44:40.940 where we say what we mean mean what we say we're not afraid of protest everything else

01:44:45.880 do do the brits have it in them to stand up and be loud and like no this is this is what we want

01:44:56.620 i do i do believe we have it in us and if you look at our history we have successfully

01:45:03.520 reasserted ourselves at various points in history and the brits are named for being quiet for quite

01:45:10.220 a long time and then getting to boiling point yeah yeah and we are getting close to boiling

01:45:14.840 point in this country this is why there was a frustration expressed in the recent elections

01:45:19.600 is why people voted for brexit people are desperate for change i think though that

01:45:26.020 america has very strong political movements like the tea party movement the maga movement

01:45:32.240 and we need more of that in britain it's why i'm establishing cpac in britain this summer is to try

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01:45:43.660 have to mobilize and put pressure on institutions and politicians and change the debate because we

01:45:50.340 are still in such a left-wing media bubble in this country that oh my god we need to but it is

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01:48:14.660 I'm thrilled to have Liz Truss with us.

01:48:34.180 She's the former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

01:48:36.540 She also hosts her own show, now called the Liz Truss Show.

01:48:40.140 It's a podcast you can hear.

01:48:42.140 I'm thrilled that you would be here with us.

01:48:44.400 thank you for joining us um i want to ask you a couple of things first of all insiders asked

01:48:50.240 several of them asked what do you think margaret thatcher would think about england today oh she'd

01:48:55.820 be horrified horrified horrified uh by what's happened and she did a lot to restore the british

01:49:02.600 economy it's now being completely trashed you know blair basically spent all the money the

01:49:08.160 conservatives didn't reverse that we are now on the verge of a debt crisis if you remember

01:49:12.320 she was brought in to solve the debt crisis in the 70s and we're now back to where we were in

01:49:18.420 1979 when she when she got into office but she'd also be horrified by what's happened on immigration

01:49:24.720 by the way that we have given all these powers on human rights to these unelected international

01:49:31.660 bodies i i've been waiting for i've been waiting for maybe a couple of people to show up um because

01:49:39.780 that there was there were three of them at that time it was thatcher reagan and pope john paul

01:49:46.760 and those three just took communism apart and and together they were invincible we got trump

01:49:54.120 we're about to lose him but we got trump where are the rest who is on the horizon that you see

01:50:00.500 and you go that person not necessarily just for america but in europe who has the skill to be able

01:50:07.600 to stand the heat it's it's hard to say at the moment whether the new sort of generation we've

01:50:17.140 got are going to be up to it because no one's really been tested is the answer you know in 0.89

01:50:22.460 britain there's obviously kemi badenock there's nigel farage are they tough enough to take on

01:50:29.360 what is an even deeper state than mrs thatcher faced oh yeah so she did not face the unaccountable

01:50:36.600 bank of england that was created by blair she didn't face this empowered judiciary blair created

01:50:42.540 a fake supreme court she didn't face all this so it's even worse now and the bureaucrats have

01:50:49.340 become radicalized you know they're transgender activists they're environmental activists

01:50:52.940 so dealing with that is huge and it's a bit like the difference between reagan and trump

01:50:58.400 you know trump is anti-system and this is what we need in britain we need an anti-system leader

01:51:05.200 who's going to take down the elites

01:51:07.780 who've been running our country into the ground.

01:51:10.060 That is quite a fight. 1.00

01:51:10.700 And you are seeing, I mean, Malay is a good example, 1.00

01:51:13.060 or Bikali is a good example. 1.00

01:51:14.520 These are anti-system leaders. 1.00

01:51:16.400 And that is what we need in Britain.

01:51:19.240 We need it in France.

01:51:20.720 You know, who knows?

01:51:21.560 It could be Jordan Bardella in France,

01:51:24.100 could be that anti-system leader.

01:51:27.100 But it is, the European elites are even more entrenched

01:51:30.300 than the American elites.

01:51:31.480 So this is no easy task.

01:51:33.840 and as i was saying you also need a movement of people and this is one of the things i think

01:51:39.240 thatcher didn't have yeah that she had support within the party but it wasn't mainstreamed into

01:51:46.000 the british consciousness correct things like supply side economics whereas i think in america

01:51:51.840 people understood it more was a movement yeah and you know you had people like laffer and you had

01:51:57.420 you know those people yep you know that carried on flying the flag and we didn't have that in

01:52:02.940 britain as soon as as soon as labor got in it's like let's just close the door and all that we've

01:52:07.540 got the money now we can go back to being socialist in fact we can introduce more and

01:52:13.320 more progressive ideology into our state and that's what's happened tell me there's never

01:52:18.000 as big a movement in britain unfortunately tell me about canada because i am freaking out about

01:52:23.560 cam canada canada is i i mean i look at it i'm like it's lost i don't know how they recover

01:52:28.700 Canada went from this kind, polite little to a death cult with their with their medicine and their health care.

01:52:38.280 Carney is I mean, he is Mr. W.E.F.

01:52:43.060 Now you have, you know, you know, you have what is it, Alberta that is thinking about, you know, breaking away.

01:52:51.620 That would be I mean, what happens to Canada?

01:52:54.220 it is it's a terrible one good thing about keir starmer being so unpopular is that the assisted

01:53:01.020 dying bill has been dropped which would have allowed people to be killed on the state so

01:53:05.440 that's been dropped so we're not going down the route of the appalling legalized suicide policies

01:53:12.180 that they have they have in canada i was in vancouver last week massive problem with homelessness

01:53:18.000 massive problem with drug addiction when you see what's going on in the cities it is atrocious

01:53:24.500 and it's a result of justin trudeau's progressive ideology and a mark carney has just floated in

01:53:31.420 there after ruining things in britain a lot of the problems we have are due to quantitative easing

01:53:35.720 that made it very unaffordable for young people to get on the housing ladder it was carney who

01:53:41.540 did all those policies in britain that we are now suffering from he then goes over to canada

01:53:47.700 to ruin ruin their economy and ruin that i mean it's but it's terrible but it is the world economic

01:53:54.320 forum ethos that we're seeing you know this green ideology this high tax ideology this dei

01:54:01.640 ideology and they spread it around the world and one of the things i think the right needs to do

01:54:07.940 more is to have that international you know movement that is prepared to take these people

01:54:16.380 because we're all fighting the same battle amen i think i mean that's why i'm here with tommy i

01:54:21.540 don't get into your politics i don't know your politics i don't i just maybe you need to glenn

01:54:26.320 yeah right i just i just want the people of england to know that america hears them we see you

01:54:33.520 because i know how alone we felt we see you we hear you and once we stop arguing about oh it's

01:54:41.000 Keir Starmer's fault. No, it's Donald Trump's fault. Look at the real. Can we talk about the

01:54:45.840 actual problems? They're having us play all these little games with the media and everything else,

01:54:51.100 and we're not actually addressing any of the problems. And once the people stop arguing,

01:54:57.020 it's Donald Trump. They'll start going, wait a minute, wait a minute, what's actually happening

01:55:01.220 here? And they'll see the sorry state that we're in. And people in the entire Western world will

01:55:08.720 realize wait a minute it's actually the people versus the elites that's what's happening the

01:55:14.060 elites have taken control of everything and when the people all over the west start to unite that's

01:55:20.160 when real change comes i mean global change i agree and you can see it shows like yours glenn

01:55:27.920 the alternative media is a big part of taking on and linking between america and the u.s people now

01:55:35.780 consume a lot of american content people in europe are looking at what's happening in britain so

01:55:41.180 i think that is building but we are facing just such powerful governmental organizations we're

01:55:47.960 facing the soros network which pumps billions of pounds tell me about into ngos astro the green

01:55:55.640 party which is our islamo-communist party we're incredibly well funded during these elections

01:56:01.620 because they have access to that NGO network. 1.00

01:56:07.980 This is what we have to take on.

01:56:10.720 I wonder how much American money is actually going to some of those NGOs as well.

01:56:14.740 A lot of it was going through USAID.

01:56:17.280 I know.

01:56:18.060 Tony Blair was getting money from USAID.

01:56:21.340 That's crazy.

01:56:23.160 When people in America really wake up to the corruption that has been going on,

01:56:28.220 I think these people are in real trouble.

01:56:29.700 because that you know you're taking money away from kids people actually need help you're taking

01:56:37.100 my hard-earned dollars you know your hard-earned dollars and you're doing what with it uh and and

01:56:44.460 using it against the things that we believe in i think they're absolutely but now trouble now

01:56:49.720 the british government aid scheme is backfilling a lot of the money that donald trump has cut from

01:56:55.680 USAID. So now the European Union and the British government are pouring money into all of those

01:57:02.680 schemes. Because we've got so much of it. Exactly. We're poorer than Mississippi and yet we're

01:57:09.400 pouring money into rejected USAID schemes. That is how nuts it is. Tell me what you hope you'll

01:57:17.140 see coming out of china with president well i want to see china you know held to account 1.00

01:57:25.820 held to account for the way they have subverted the global trade system you know i'm a big 1.00

01:57:33.060 supporter of putting tariffs on china i want to see stronger controls on technology so we are not 0.99

01:57:40.360 losing the technological battle i think i'm talking about the west overall yeah that's what i want to 0.99

01:57:45.880 See, I see China as the biggest threat to the world. 0.98

01:57:53.100 I see it as the biggest threat to the West. 0.99

01:57:54.980 And of course, they're working hand in hand with the Islamists. 0.97

01:57:59.460 They're working, and they're backing countries like Iran. 0.96

01:58:03.940 So what needs to happen is they need to be contained. 0.99

01:58:08.060 And this is what the West should be working on together.

01:58:10.180 The problem is we've got too many fifth columnists in the West who are busy taking money from China, 0.84

01:58:15.160 investment from china and you know the british government has been infiltrated by chinese spies 0.97

01:58:21.080 every week i mean our local governments in california every week we hear about a new chinese 0.76

01:58:27.000 spy yeah uh that has been unveiled so that's what i hope president trump is going to achieve

01:58:31.540 but you have to be careful because of course you know they are an incredibly powerful country

01:58:37.640 they're a nuclear power it's not easy but ultimately they have to be defeated are you

01:58:43.580 speaking on saturday at this rally no you're not what do you hope comes out of this what

01:58:51.720 what are your expectations and and how do you feel about all of it i mean what what i feel is that

01:58:57.740 the british public is incredibly angry about the state of our country and

01:59:05.920 the problem is we have an elite who's had their hands over their ears for a very long time

01:59:14.120 see what i want is for people to wake up and to put pressure on to really change things and

01:59:24.620 that we don't just need to question keir starmer who's no doubt you know a terrible kind of lefty

01:59:31.940 human lawyer he'll be replaced but he is just one yep like tiny symptom of this whole problem

01:59:37.900 you know we have a whole system from the bbc to our education system to our bureaucracy in white

01:59:44.760 hall that is fundamentally not acting in the interest of our country and that's how serious

01:59:50.140 it is i saw the bbc the other day and they said these elections here if america may not know what's

01:59:55.960 going on but the local elections happen and it is an earthquake would you agree with that

02:00:00.500 it was an earthquake but what tends to happen with earthquakes in britain and this was the

02:00:05.580 same when elon musk focused on the issue of the rape gangs is the media then just focus on something

02:00:12.040 else i was just so they managed to there's nothing this is they say they say it's an earthquake and

02:00:17.800 then two weeks later they've moved on to some esoteric issue or they blame somebody on the

02:00:24.920 right or whatever so this is what the media do so what we need is a population that are

02:00:30.420 watching and engaging with alternative media who are on x who are finding their own information

02:00:37.040 about what's happening who are putting pressure on the political parties we need we need to weaken

02:00:42.960 the grip that these people have that's the issue and too many people in britain have just gone

02:00:48.480 along with it and that's true of entrepreneurs and business leaders yeah they've gone along with

02:00:52.680 stuff they don't want to be unpopular they don't want to go to partisan events well they're going

02:00:56.880 to have to get over that just like elon musk got over that there's a few people in history that

02:01:04.340 have really been turning points in history i think elon musk is one i don't think we would be where

02:01:11.060 we are today if elon musk wasn't around to buy twitter i don't know if the world would be where

02:01:16.660 it is today would you agree with that i agree he's been a hugely radicalizing force here in britain

02:01:22.120 i think covid was a radicalizing force when people saw what the government was prepared to do

02:01:27.800 yeah to their liberties so you've had these radicalizing forces but those you know the

02:01:34.740 people need to keep on it and they can't too many people just understandably want to get on with

02:01:41.840 their lives you know not worry about what's going on but they've got to wake up to what's happening

02:01:46.940 in our country. I think they are. I think they're waking up all over Europe and England,

02:01:51.780 Great Britain, and the United States. I think they're waking up. They're even waking up in

02:01:55.660 Canada, which I was glad to see to some degree. Liz, thank you so much.

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02:03:30.540 Glenn Beck returns in a moment.

02:03:37.060 Let me show you the past, the present, and the future.

02:03:54.740 Let's start with the past.

02:03:55.840 Here's Trump to the president of China earlier today.

02:03:59.700 Cut six.

02:04:00.960 You and I have known each other now for a long time.

02:04:04.020 In fact, the longest relationship of our two countries that any president and president has had.

02:04:11.960 And that's to me an honor.

02:04:14.500 We've had a fantastic relationship.

02:04:16.680 We've gotten along.

02:04:17.580 When there were difficulties, we worked it out.

02:04:20.080 I would call you and you would call me.

02:04:22.280 And whenever we had a problem, people don't know.

02:04:25.540 Whenever we had a problem, we worked it out very quickly.

02:04:28.480 And we're going to have a fantastic future together.

02:04:32.520 such respect for china the job you've done you're a great leader i say it to everybody you're a

02:04:38.660 great leader sometimes people don't like me saying it but i say it anyway because it's true yeah

02:04:44.040 so what is he saying there why would the president say that if you missed that

02:04:49.380 well you grab the podcast today um and make sure you listen wherever you get your podcast or glenn

02:04:55.820 back calm slash torch I want to show you the the future and that is mom Donnie

02:05:02.900 how he zeroed New York's budget yeah that's on tomorrow's show you don't want

02:05:08.580 to miss a second from London England one last day tomorrow and then back home

02:05:15.700 may God save the Republic see you tomorrow

02:05:25.820 Glambeck is on.

The Glenn Beck Program - May 14, 2026

No, Trump Is Not Sucking Up to China. Glenn Explains Why ｜ Guests： Eva Vlaardingerbroek & Liz Truss ｜ 5⧸14⧸26

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