The Glenn Beck Program - NY Rep. Elect George Santos Is Jew＂ish＂｜ Guest Host： Jeff Katz

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00:00:53.000 Well, am I Jewish or Jew-ish?

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00:01:18.000 Jeff Katz happened to be sitting in for Glenn again this morning from News Radio WRVA in Central Virginia.

00:01:25.000 New York Congressman-Elect George Santos is not Jewish.

00:01:32.000 He's Jew, one, two, three, four, five, ish.

00:01:37.000 Jew, ish.

00:01:41.000 He is also, I should have you know, a floor wax as well as a dessert topping.

00:01:47.000 It's bizarre to me how anybody says A when what they really mean is B.

00:01:56.000 And there's nothing wrong with B.

00:01:58.000 That's the weird thing.

00:02:00.000 Now, Congressman-Elect Santos, as far as I can tell, smart guy, talented guy, has done a lot of things, has, as I've looked now, I've been forced to look, right?

00:02:14.000 Because he's everywhere.

00:02:17.000 I really was blissfully unaware of him until a couple of days ago.

00:02:22.000 But now I'm going and I'm looking at his positions on issues and things he wants to do for the people in the third congressional district in New York.

00:02:31.000 And I'm thinking, wow, these are all good points.

00:02:33.000 There's nothing wrong with with what he said on the issues.

00:02:36.000 So why?

00:02:38.000 Why this?

00:02:40.000 Why this?

00:02:42.000 He says, I found out that my because it was his maternal grandmother was Jewish.

00:02:49.000 And therefore, he he thought that he would explore some of his Jewish roots.

00:02:54.000 I have no problem with that.

00:02:57.000 Now, I'm sitting here and I'm I'm Jewish.

00:03:00.000 Anyway, you slice it.

00:03:01.000 You know, you can pause in between Jew and ish if you want or you can do it all the way.

00:03:06.000 But that's that's me.

00:03:08.000 I've never once thought, hmm, I really should be I should be Episcopalian.

00:03:16.000 Not that there's anything wrong one way or the other.

00:03:19.000 Right.

00:03:20.000 I know who I am.

00:03:21.000 Some people may like it.

00:03:22.000 Some people may find it.

00:03:25.000 Not to their liking.

00:03:27.000 I don't really care.

00:03:28.000 I can't change that.

00:03:32.000 If he would have said.

00:03:34.000 I found out my maternal grandmother was Jewish.

00:03:37.000 And even though the family is Catholic, after I found this out, I I really decided to explore the Jewish roots of my family.

00:03:48.000 You know, that probably would have gotten him even more votes.

00:03:50.000 There would have been plenty of people who said, wow, good for you.

00:03:54.000 Good for you.

00:03:56.000 Want to explore more about your family's history.

00:03:58.000 You want to learn about where you you came from helps you to kind of craft a direction for for where you might go.

00:04:06.000 That would have been laudable.

00:04:08.000 But it's it's it's one of those things you just can't lie about.

00:04:12.000 And he is trying to say, I mean, Jewish, I meant you wish it's it's bizarre.

00:04:22.000 Then there are the questions about the the resume.

00:04:26.000 And this is where this really gets interesting.

00:04:28.000 He is being held to account for a couple of things that are apparently just flat out lies.

00:04:38.000 And another thing I don't quite understand.

00:04:43.000 If he would have stood up and said, hey.

00:04:48.000 I have a bachelor's degree from and where was it?

00:04:51.000 I don't think it was Baruch College.

00:04:53.000 And he doesn't have a bachelor's degree from Baruch College, then then that's a lie.

00:04:57.000 And that's and that's easily provable.

00:04:59.000 Right.

00:05:00.000 Hello, college administrator.

00:05:02.000 We just wanted to confirm that one of your former students, George Santos, graduated with a bachelor's degree.

00:05:11.000 And then they go to their their file and they look it up and say, yep, sure did.

00:05:16.000 June of 1986.

00:05:18.000 He was awarded his degree and it was in whatever it was in economics.

00:05:25.000 OK, thank you very much.

00:05:26.000 That's the end of the conversation.

00:05:27.000 If you decide, well, gosh, I didn't finish the degree for whatever reason.

00:05:34.000 I got tired of it.

00:05:36.000 I decided to go in a different direction.

00:05:39.000 I had a job opportunity.

00:05:41.000 I got married.

00:05:42.000 I had a family.

00:05:43.000 I I just decided college wasn't for me.

00:05:46.000 Whatever the reason was.

00:05:47.000 You can't say, well, I have that degree.

00:05:51.000 But if you have studied there, you could honestly say.

00:05:56.000 I attended this college from this year to this year, I studied at this college from this point to this point.

00:06:04.000 And people can look at it and say, well, he only went there for two years, but so he didn't get a degree.

00:06:08.000 Right.

00:06:09.000 And you could say, no, I didn't get a degree because I I got it.

00:06:13.000 I got a job.

00:06:14.000 I was I was making money and now I had a family.

00:06:17.000 Fantastic.

00:06:18.000 No problem whatsoever.

00:06:21.000 And, you know, if you would have stood up and said, I never did finish my college degree.

00:06:27.000 You know, you would have gotten even more votes.

00:06:30.000 You would have gotten votes from people like me.

00:06:35.000 Who would say, wow, good for you.

00:06:39.000 Not that I'm minimizing collegiate achievement.

00:06:44.000 It's what I'm five minutes into the program.

00:06:47.000 I haven't even mentioned yet that my oldest boy attends Stanford.

00:06:50.000 Well, there you go.

00:06:51.000 I had to mention it.

00:06:52.000 I get it.

00:06:54.000 Some people absolutely thrive in that collegiate environment and they learn things and they do good for them.

00:07:01.000 And some people don't.

00:07:02.000 And if he just would have said, wow, I I was there for a couple of years.

00:07:07.000 It didn't work out or I didn't like it.

00:07:09.000 It's got my support.

00:07:10.000 Let's say he didn't go quite that far.

00:07:13.000 Let's say he he knew he wasn't actually going to get a degree from there.

00:07:17.000 But but it's a good name.

00:07:19.000 Let's say it's Harvard University, right?

00:07:21.000 Everybody knows Harvard.

00:07:23.000 It's kind of like the Stanford of the East.

00:07:28.000 Let's say you look at Harvard and say, man, I I can't get into Harvard.

00:07:32.000 I didn't really study at Harvard, but I want the name Harvard University somewhere on my resume.

00:07:38.000 Well, you you've got to be very careful because you didn't actually go there.

00:07:41.000 So how are you going to do this?

00:07:43.000 You know what a lot of people do because they want to add a prestigious college or university to their resume.

00:07:51.000 They take a class or two.

00:07:53.000 Maybe it's just one class.

00:07:56.000 Well, you cannot say you got a degree from that school because you didn't.

00:08:02.000 That's a lie.

00:08:03.000 You could say, honestly, I studied at Harvard.

00:08:09.000 Now, there's going to be some follow up, right?

00:08:12.000 Because people can say, well, what did you study?

00:08:15.000 Let's stick with economics.

00:08:17.000 I studied economics.

00:08:19.000 Oh, excellent.

00:08:21.000 Are you going to tell them you took one course?

00:08:24.000 Maybe you are.

00:08:25.000 Maybe you aren't.

00:08:26.000 I don't know.

00:08:27.000 But we're talking about what is or is not honest.

00:08:31.000 And I understand people embellish things.

00:08:33.000 They craft things.

00:08:34.000 They they present an image that they think is going to work for them.

00:08:38.000 I don't have any problem with that.

00:08:43.000 Now, my wife, however, has huge problems with all of this.

00:08:47.000 Heidi.

00:08:48.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:08:49.000 It's like Festivus and and the Costanza dad.

00:08:52.000 I got issues with you people.

00:08:55.000 And you're going to hear about it.

00:08:57.000 See, my wife is a graduate of Boston College.

00:09:00.000 Magna come loudly.

00:09:03.000 And and she's really smart.

00:09:07.000 And she says.

00:09:09.000 What if somebody says they attended Boston College, but all they did was they signed up for a course or two.

00:09:16.000 My perspective is they can honestly say they attended.

00:09:21.000 No, no, they did.

00:09:22.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:09:24.000 That's that's that's truthiness.

00:09:27.000 What?

00:09:28.000 Truthiness.

00:09:29.000 It's my wife's word.

00:09:30.000 Truthiness.

00:09:31.000 Oh, it is sort of true.

00:09:32.000 In fact, it's actually true.

00:09:34.000 You did attend that college.

00:09:37.000 You only attended a class or two.

00:09:39.000 She says, no, you shouldn't get any credit for it at all.

00:09:42.000 I'm I'm much nicer, as you can tell, much more giving and relaxed and generous in my praise and accolades for others.

00:09:52.000 Go ahead.

00:09:53.000 You can do that.

00:09:55.000 But Congressman elect Santos didn't do any of those things.

00:09:58.000 He just flat out said, hey, I got a bachelor's degree from this place.

00:10:03.000 And he didn't.

00:10:04.000 Well, that's a lie.

00:10:05.000 That's not embellishment.

00:10:06.000 That's a lie.

00:10:07.000 Then he was talking about his employment.

00:10:09.000 Once again.

00:10:11.000 If you say I worked for blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:16.000 And somebody says, well, what did you do there?

00:10:19.000 I think his was what Goldman Sachs, another big.

00:10:24.000 Firm.

00:10:25.000 I understand people like the name.

00:10:29.000 Oh, Goldman Sachs.

00:10:30.000 Well, he's got to know what he's doing.

00:10:32.000 Can you say you work there if you didn't work there?

00:10:36.000 No, no, you cannot.

00:10:37.000 And it's not embellishment.

00:10:38.000 That's not embellishment.

00:10:39.000 That's a lie.

00:10:41.000 But what if you are working for Santos Enterprises and Santos Enterprises provide some sort of service to Goldman Sachs?

00:10:52.000 This is what he's trying to say now.

00:10:53.000 Well, I said I worked for them, but I didn't work for them directly.

00:10:58.000 I'm not even sure if that's truthiness.

00:11:01.000 I mean, that's a real, real difficult one.

00:11:04.000 That's a tough putt.

00:11:06.000 But all he had to do from the beginning was simply be honest.

00:11:12.000 And given that district, if you look at the district and now all of a sudden I find myself knowing things about a congressional district I don't live in.

00:11:21.000 I think I may have traveled through there at one point when I was in New York City for something, but I don't know much about it.

00:11:27.000 But now I had to go back and look and research, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:11:31.000 And I'm looking going, wow, you could have just been honest about all of this.

00:11:36.000 And you probably would have won by an even bigger margin.

00:11:40.000 So I don't know what happens to him as we move forward.

00:11:43.000 The problem that he has is that he's a Republican.

00:11:47.000 See, Republicans, if they say this sort of stuff, if they present information that is not actually true, they are held accountable.

00:11:58.000 Not like Democrats.

00:12:01.000 Democrats way back when a guy by the name of Joseph Robinette Biden, you may remember him.

00:12:08.000 He's now the presidential meat puppet playing the part of the president in this, the third term of Barack Obama.

00:12:15.000 This Joe Biden character had a few things to say that were, well, embellishments.

00:12:22.000 No, even even the Associated Press said they were lies.

00:12:25.000 Well, we'll talk about that in a moment.

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00:13:08.000 I mentioned this, uh, Joe Biden character who, if you're looking for him is now on vacation, right?

00:13:23.000 He's going to the Virgin islands.

00:13:26.000 It's the best part.

00:13:28.000 I mean, there's a terrible blizzard.

00:13:31.000 There are at last count 50 plus Americans who have died as a result of this.

00:13:39.000 Even if you don't care about them.

00:13:43.000 And from the looks of it, Joe Biden doesn't really care about them.

00:13:46.000 If you're playing the part of the president, don't you just pretend that you care about them?

00:13:52.000 Is there nobody in the white house who says, boy, this doesn't look good.

00:13:57.000 People in Buffalo, New York are dealing with how many feet of snow.

00:14:02.000 How many people have no water?

00:14:05.000 How many people have no food?

00:14:07.000 How many people have been forced to engage in, uh, undocumented shopping sprees?

00:14:17.000 Maybe we shouldn't go to the beach.

00:14:21.000 That's what would happen in a, in a regular, in a normal presidential administration.

00:14:27.000 But this is not like that.

00:14:29.000 This is an administration.

00:14:31.000 This is a team that has told each and every one of us.

00:14:35.000 Blank you and the pony, the dog face pony you rode in on.

00:14:40.000 They don't care.

00:14:42.000 And if we still had respectable reporters and journalists, this would be a story.

00:14:49.000 But the legacy news media hacks have become nothing more than bottom feeding water carriers for the Uber leftists.

00:14:58.000 So this is not a story.

00:15:01.000 But way back when, the Associated Press actually engaged in the practice of journalism.

00:15:08.000 And I had to go way back and find this story.

00:15:13.000 But since we are talking about political embellishments, I just want to share this from you.

00:15:20.000 The Associated Press.

00:15:22.000 Senator Joe Biden claimed during a campaign appearance in New Hampshire last spring that he finished in the top half of his law school class, although records indicate he finished near the bottom.

00:15:34.000 In a videotape, remember those?

00:15:37.000 Aired by the public service cable network C-SPAN several months ago, the Delaware Democrat was asked at a campaign stop in Claremont, New Hampshire, on April the 3rd, about what law school he attended and how well he did.

00:15:50.000 On the videotape, a clearly angered Biden told the questioner, quote, I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do.

00:16:00.000 The first year in law school, I decided I didn't want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two thirds of my class.

00:16:08.000 And then I decided I wanted to stay and went back to law school and, in fact, ended up in the top half of my class.

00:16:14.000 But last week, Biden released his law school record showing that he had graduated 76th in a law school class of 85.

00:16:23.000 The law school transcript also showed he made little progress in class standing through the three year course, ranking 80 out of 100 in the first semester of the first year and 79th out of 87 the second semester of his second year.

00:16:40.560 Biden has been deviled about questions in the last 10 days about his law school career and his use of others' words in his speeches without credit.

00:16:49.020 I think technically that's called plagiarism.

00:16:51.900 He revealed last week that he committed plagiarism in law school and took a course over to make up for the error.

00:17:00.140 In the videotape, Biden went on to say, quote, I went to Syracuse Law School on a full academic scholarship.

00:17:06.840 The records he released last week indicated that he had an $800 scholarship from the school, as well as $1,000 in room and board from his work as a resident advisor in a dorm and student loans.

00:17:19.200 Quote, I won the international moot court competition.

00:17:22.560 I was the outstanding student in the political science department as an undergraduate.

00:17:26.200 I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school and I'd be delighted to sit back and compare my IQ to yours if you'd like, Frank.

00:17:36.360 Biden told the questioner.

00:17:39.360 Hmm.

00:17:39.720 The tape was aired April the 10th and 12th as part of the C-SPAN Network's Road to the White House series.

00:17:46.580 Newsweek magazine.

00:17:48.160 Remember them?

00:17:49.260 They used to have reporters and journalists as well.

00:17:51.920 Newsweek magazine said Biden does not mention the moot court competition on his resume and did not win the political science award at University of Delaware, where he didn't actually receive three degrees.

00:18:04.160 He received a single degree in political science.

00:18:08.760 Biden told the New York Times he was frustrated and angry as hell.

00:18:13.000 It's so easy to make things look like there's something sinister about them.

00:18:16.820 I guess every single word I've said is going to be dissected now.

00:18:21.120 Well, yes, because you put yourself out there in the in the spotlight.

00:18:26.160 Of his class ranking in law school, Biden said, quote, I exaggerate when I'm angry, but I've never gone around telling people things that aren't true.

00:18:36.460 Well, actually, you have.

00:18:40.160 Yes, you have.

00:18:42.780 That's the whole point.

00:18:45.880 There is truthiness.

00:18:47.840 There's exaggeration.

00:18:48.160 There's exaggeration, and then there's Biden level, complete and total Biden science.

00:18:56.320 It's nonsense.

00:18:57.940 By the way, he's fine.

00:19:00.240 Does George Santos survive this?

00:19:01.880 I don't know.

00:19:02.420 We've got a little snippet that we'll listen to in a moment.

00:19:04.640 It's George Santos actually chatting with Tulsi Gabbard.

00:19:09.220 And Tulsi does not grant him any slack.

00:19:12.500 It is Jeff Katz, K-A-T-Z, in for Glenn Beck.

00:19:16.140 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:19:18.160 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:19:33.300 It is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:19:50.440 Jeff Katz, sitting in for Glenn.

00:19:54.340 News Radio WRVA in Central Virginia.

00:19:56.880 And you know how you take your kids to those strip clubs, right?

00:20:01.840 Oh, you don't.

00:20:02.600 All right.

00:20:02.960 I don't either.

00:20:04.080 And I couldn't even imagine for a second saying to the wife, hey, Heidi, I have this great idea.

00:20:11.420 You know the strip club out there in the seedy part of town?

00:20:14.260 I say we load all the kids up in the minivan and we head down there for their special Christmas time performance.

00:20:23.760 My bride is heavily invested in Easy Spirit Shoes.

00:20:30.040 I am of the firm belief that we probably could open a store.

00:20:35.720 In fact, maybe we should open a store.

00:20:37.500 Every time I turn around, there's another truck here.

00:20:40.040 Whether it's UPS or it's FedEx or any of the other delivery companies.

00:20:46.160 And these poor guys are wheeling in Easy Spirit Shoes.

00:20:49.000 We have them in every color, every variety.

00:20:53.800 Why?

00:20:54.100 Well, because she likes Easy Spirit Shoes.

00:20:57.060 And I only mention that because I know that a lot of the Easy Spirit Shoes are very comfortable.

00:21:02.280 So after I suggest taking the kids in the minivan to the strip club for a special Christmas performance,

00:21:09.040 she will try and pelt me with those shoes.

00:21:11.480 But if she's using the soft ones, I should be okay.

00:21:14.820 You can't even imagine it, can you?

00:21:16.620 Why?

00:21:16.880 Because you're a decent person.

00:21:18.420 There's none of us who are decent people, fundamentally decent people, who would think, oh, yeah.

00:21:24.720 Best thing ever.

00:21:26.640 Load the kids up in the minivan.

00:21:28.900 Take them to the strip club.

00:21:29.860 So why are we supposed to accept now as reasonable, sexually explicit drag shows?

00:21:42.540 Give you an example.

00:21:45.060 Governor Ron DeSantis in Florida.

00:21:47.200 And thank God for Governor DeSantis.

00:21:49.240 I absolutely love him.

00:21:50.460 I really do.

00:21:51.020 Governor DeSantis, his Department of Business and Professional Regulation is now investigating a sexually explicit drag show that took place in Fort Lauderdale on December the 26th, just two days ago.

00:22:06.620 A drag queen Christmas.

00:22:13.620 I'm a big Hallmark movie fan.

00:22:17.060 And even as Hallmark has sort of expanded their Christmas offerings, I'm pretty sure a drag queen Christmas was not on the list.

00:22:29.680 A drag queen Christmas.

00:22:32.900 In Fort Lauderdale, two days ago, it welcomed children in the audience.

00:22:38.620 That's the problem.

00:22:39.560 If you're an adult, you're over the age of 18, and you decide, well, I just want to go and sing a couple of rousing verses of Jingle Bells, and I want to do it with a whole collection of drag queens who are going to be featuring simulated sex acts and exposing fake breasts.

00:22:57.620 Well, by gosh, you go and do that.

00:22:59.880 I don't want to be the Grinch.

00:23:01.800 I don't want to steal your Christmas fun.

00:23:04.080 If you really think that that's what you ought to do, well, I think you're kind of twisted and demented and not in a good way, but okay, go and do it.

00:23:11.960 You're an adult.

00:23:12.560 But how on earth does anybody, anywhere, at any time, think that having children in the audience is the right way to go?

00:23:24.740 There's something truly demented about that.

00:23:28.100 There's something truly evil about that.

00:23:31.340 According to Governor DeSantis' office, state of Florida was made aware of, quote, multiple complaints about a sexually explicit performance marketed to children held in Fort Lauderdale on December the 26th, and they are actively investigating.

00:23:52.760 The investigation includes video footage and photographs from the event.

00:23:57.480 The state of Florida will take action, Governor DeSantis' office says.

00:24:06.280 They also make clear that exposing children to sexually explicit activity is a crime in Florida, and such action violates the department's licensing standards for operating a business and holding a liquor license.

00:24:22.540 You want to punish a restaurant.

00:24:24.460 You want to punish any sort of entertainment facility?

00:24:30.320 You take away their liquor license, because those folks make money with liquid, right?

00:24:35.740 Solids, there's not a huge markup, but liquid?

00:24:38.980 Oh, huge, huge markup.

00:24:45.280 This is disturbing.

00:24:47.660 But it's not unusual, unfortunately.

00:24:50.060 I'll give you another example.

00:24:51.120 About 1,500 miles away in Massachusetts.

00:24:56.100 Some parents went to court.

00:24:58.700 They filed a lawsuit, a federal lawsuit.

00:25:02.660 And they said, we need to know what our kids are doing in school.

00:25:06.580 Is that not about as fundamental as it gets?

00:25:11.020 We, as parents, need to know what our kids are doing in school.

00:25:14.560 I mentioned to you, I'm here in central Virginia.

00:25:17.940 I was one of the folks who led the effort.

00:25:19.760 I came up with this really cool hashtag, because, you know, that's how you fight battles now.

00:25:23.960 Hashtag, we the parents.

00:25:27.720 We the parents.

00:25:29.480 And we the parents said, yeah, we need to be involved.

00:25:33.260 We need to know.

00:25:34.080 We need to be aware of what's going on in schools.

00:25:35.840 And we had a couple of terrible cases here in Virginia, just up the road from me, Loudoun County, Virginia.

00:25:44.120 A boy in a skirt, assaulting, sexually assaulting a girl in a bathroom.

00:25:52.560 And then the school division just moved the boy to another school.

00:25:56.360 Guess what?

00:25:56.960 Here's a shock.

00:25:57.600 He did it again.

00:25:58.380 The parent, the father of that girl, said, what is going on?

00:26:04.500 He was demeaned and attacked and forcibly removed from the school board meeting.

00:26:11.400 I should let you know, about a week or so ago, a week and a half ago, a grand jury here in Virginia

00:26:18.700 found all sorts of problems with the school division in Loudoun County.

00:26:27.260 And now that school board has fired the school superintendent who's now facing charges, as well as their PR flack.

00:26:34.080 So at least there's some progress.

00:26:35.400 So again, I go back to we the parents.

00:26:39.800 So listen to what happened in Massachusetts, because boy, this will send a chill up and down your spine.

00:26:45.800 Federal judge recently dismissed the lawsuit.

00:26:48.240 These two parents, a mom and a dad, different kids, by the way, claimed that public school officials in Ludlow, Mass.

00:26:57.800 Had encouraged their children to change their names and their their chosen pronouns.

00:27:03.380 But a U.S. District Court judge said that Stephen Foote and Marissa Silvestri just didn't have any standing.

00:27:18.820 This judge, Mark Mastrohany, ruled that the lawsuit against the Ludlow public school officials failed to meet the, quote,

00:27:30.820 shocks the conscience legal standard for due process claims.

00:27:36.040 It doesn't shock your conscience.

00:27:40.860 It shocks every fiber of my being to think that some teacher or counselor is telling my son or my daughter,

00:27:49.120 you ought to try that other gender on for size.

00:27:51.720 You might like it more.

00:27:53.620 In fact, instead of he, because you're a boy.

00:27:56.360 Well, why don't you say she?

00:27:57.560 Because you've decided you're going to be a girl today.

00:27:59.800 These parents learned, according to their lawsuit, that school officials at a middle school had urged the child to adopt a new name and different gendered pronouns.

00:28:19.340 They went so far out of whack, so far over the line.

00:28:25.300 And yet, Judge Mastrohany, an Obama appointee, said,

00:28:31.820 eh, it doesn't really rise to any level of concern for the court.

00:28:38.420 It's outrageous.

00:28:41.260 You want to talk about how the leftists are trying to turn kids against parents,

00:28:48.460 trying to undermine every single part of a decent society.

00:28:53.640 This is what they're doing.

00:28:55.300 And I don't want you for a second to think, oh, this is, it's just, it's just letting people live their lives.

00:29:03.840 Because I happen to be in favor of just letting people live their lives.

00:29:08.800 But when you are actively, actively trying to get kids to do things that the kids themselves don't want to do,

00:29:18.640 and then you say, we're not telling the parents.

00:29:23.020 It's a huge, huge attack on decent society.

00:29:29.660 And this is how this goes.

00:29:31.300 All you have to do is look back at Mao Zedong in China.

00:29:36.260 What did Mao do?

00:29:39.000 Mao had children march their parents into the streets to be ridiculed and abused and demeaned and insulted.

00:29:47.340 And then the parents were either sent to, quote, re-education camps, or they were just killed right where they stood.

00:29:55.840 And the kids were rewarded for that.

00:29:58.740 And so the next generation came along with nothing but complete and total allegiance to the Communist Party.

00:30:05.480 And nothing but contempt for their own parents who were trying to teach them right from wrong.

00:30:12.500 I don't think we're all that far away, unfortunately.

00:30:16.380 You want to read more about this?

00:30:17.880 I do have all of this posted.

00:30:19.920 If you will follow my social media, you will see all of it.

00:30:23.840 And I will appreciate it.

00:30:24.940 I'll tell you that.

00:30:26.300 Over on Facebook, look for The Jeff Cat Show.

00:30:29.220 I mentioned yesterday I wanted more people to like it.

00:30:31.160 Apparently, there's not a like button on that page, so I've got my social media director on it.

00:30:36.240 We're going to try and get one there.

00:30:37.480 I don't know why it's not there.

00:30:38.860 But in the meantime, would you follow The Jeff Cat Show over on Facebook?

00:30:43.280 The Jeff Cat Show on Facebook.

00:30:44.800 And then over on Twitter, if you don't mind following me there, I'd really appreciate that as well.

00:30:49.420 Jeff Cat Show.

00:30:50.700 All right?

00:30:51.100 K-A-T-Z.

00:30:52.100 So many people say, Jeff, slow down.

00:30:54.920 Slow down.

00:30:56.760 Spell that last name.

00:30:58.100 K-A-T-Z.

00:30:59.120 Jeff Cat Show over on Twitter.

00:31:02.360 It is Jeff Cat.

00:31:03.380 And I am in for Glenn.

00:31:04.560 And this, of course, is The Glenn Beck Program.

00:31:06.960 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:31:08.480 The Glenn Beck Program.

00:31:25.760 It's The Glenn Beck Program.

00:31:28.460 Jeff Cat's happy to be sitting in for my friend Glenn.

00:31:31.440 I'm slightly emotional.

00:31:33.380 I'm looking at an email I just got from the Pottery Barn.

00:31:36.860 Well, all right.

00:31:37.740 Look, look.

00:31:38.260 Don't cancel my man card yet.

00:31:40.200 But they're having this after-Christmas blowout on everything Christmas-related.

00:31:46.520 Which, by the way, is the time to get Christmas stuff.

00:31:49.280 December the 26th.

00:31:50.500 Look.

00:31:50.800 Trees are half-price.

00:31:52.200 Everything's half-price.

00:31:53.180 So they had something that Heidi wanted.

00:31:57.260 And she wanted to get it in time for Christmas.

00:31:59.700 And she went to the Pottery Barn near us or around us.

00:32:04.540 Honest to goodness, I don't even know where it is.

00:32:06.200 But she went.

00:32:07.600 Because she knows.

00:32:09.140 Because, you know, she's a mom.

00:32:11.140 They know things.

00:32:12.900 And she went.

00:32:13.620 They didn't have these things.

00:32:15.340 But anyway, because I'm a good guy.

00:32:18.220 Went online and I found it.

00:32:19.860 And I ordered it.

00:32:21.980 Didn't get it here in time for Christmas.

00:32:23.540 But I just got the email that said it's on its way.

00:32:28.220 So that's just between you and me that I've got an email here from the Pottery Barn.

00:32:33.400 And not to worry.

00:32:34.080 I've got 82 emails from Joseph A. Bank reminding me that everything is on sale.

00:32:40.920 I love Joseph A. Bank.

00:32:42.320 I really do.

00:32:42.860 Anyway, listen, Tulsi Gabbard was sitting in for Tucker Carlson.

00:32:47.740 And she had this George Santos guy on.

00:32:49.640 Remember George Santos?

00:32:50.540 I'm not Jewish.

00:32:52.000 I'm Jew.

00:32:53.260 One, two, three, four, five, ish.

00:32:55.520 It's kind of like an old Seinfeld episode.

00:32:57.580 That's how it feels to me.

00:32:58.680 But take a listen to their exchange.

00:33:00.940 You said there in that letter that you are, quote, a proud American Jew.

00:33:05.900 How do you explain that?

00:33:08.660 My heritage is Jewish.

00:33:09.940 I've always identified as Jewish.

00:33:11.280 I was raised a practicing Catholic.

00:33:13.440 I think I've gone through this.

00:33:15.260 Even not being raised a practicing Jew, I've always joked with friends in circles.

00:33:21.320 Even in the campaign, I'd say, guys, I'm Jew-ish.

00:33:24.340 Remember, I was raised Catholic.

00:33:25.680 So, look.

00:33:26.540 The results that people are looking for are called into question when you tell blatant lies,

00:33:32.440 not embellishments.

00:33:33.360 And this is, I think, one of the biggest concerns, Congressman-elect, is that you don't really

00:33:37.680 seem to be taking this seriously.

00:33:39.600 You've apologized.

00:33:40.320 You said you've made mistakes, but you've outright lied.

00:33:43.260 A lie is not an embellishment on a resume.

00:33:45.700 You said you worked at Goldman Sachs and Citigroup, but they've said, we've got no record of this

00:33:50.720 guy working for us.

00:33:51.440 You've said you've gone to and graduated from these universities, but they've said, well,

00:33:54.940 we've got no record of that.

00:33:56.700 These are blatant lies.

00:33:57.740 And it calls into question how your constituents and the American people can believe anything

00:34:02.760 that you may say when you are standing on the floor of the House of Representatives, supposedly

00:34:07.940 fighting for them.

00:34:09.000 That's the real issue here.

00:34:10.260 She's great, by the way.

00:34:13.560 I love Tulsi Gabbard.

00:34:15.800 And were it not for some of her still, I think, like way far left ideas, she'd be maybe good

00:34:24.240 as a Republican.

00:34:26.280 I mean, the labels don't really mean anything anymore, do they?

00:34:28.960 But I do.

00:34:29.440 I like her.

00:34:29.900 I think she's tough.

00:34:30.740 I think she's smart.

00:34:32.520 Am I going to be a terrible person?

00:34:34.100 Will I be accused of something terrible when I say, and by the way, she's a very attractive

00:34:38.600 woman.

00:34:40.180 Are we allowed to say that anymore?

00:34:42.000 I don't know, but I'm saying it because I think she is.

00:34:44.580 I think that's the first thing for a lot of guys.

00:34:46.660 I don't know if this is good or bad, but for a lot of guys go, oh, wow, she's very pretty.

00:34:51.100 And then you hear her speak and you go, oh, she's very pretty and she's brilliant.

00:34:55.580 And now you pay even more attention, which I guess is the way it's supposed to go.

00:35:00.880 How am I being paid today?

00:35:02.440 Social media things.

00:35:03.720 That's really what I'm looking for.

00:35:05.280 And I found online, if you haven't been to TheBlaze.com recently, there's this whole

00:35:09.340 merchandise section.

00:35:10.960 I did mention to Heidi, I need one of these Blaze hoodies.

00:35:14.900 They're beautiful.

00:35:16.220 It'd be a late present, but I'll take it.

00:35:18.340 So make sure you're checking out TheBlaze.com each and every day.

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00:35:23.700 Sign up for Glenn's morning brief.

00:35:25.540 Man, oh, man, you are going to be well informed.

00:35:28.260 Social media stuff.

00:35:29.140 I'd love to have you following me on Facebook and on Twitter.

00:35:32.200 Look for The Jeff Katz Show.

00:35:34.100 It is Jeff Katz.

00:35:35.120 So happy to be sitting in for Glenn.

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00:36:51.300 Do the Twitter files being released by Elon Musk show a coordinated attack on the First Amendment?

00:36:57.800 Insight from the always brilliant, cogent professor Alan Dershowitz in 60 seconds.

00:37:03.040 It is The Glenn Beck Program.

00:37:18.700 Jeff Katz.

00:37:19.520 Happy to be sitting in for my friend Glenn.

00:37:21.400 I was shadow banned, I think is the term.

00:37:28.080 I had 25,000, 30,000 followers on Twitter.

00:37:31.960 And then one morning I woke up and everybody was gone.

00:37:35.680 People sent me notes saying, hey, how come you cut me off of Twitter?

00:37:38.400 And I thought, I don't even know how to do that.

00:37:40.200 There's nobody to appeal to, but now I'm back up.

00:37:44.880 I think around 7,000 people are coming back in and I always appreciate the follow over there on Twitter.

00:37:49.220 Now as I try and rebuild this, with Elon Musk now owning Twitter, we are seeing more, hearing more, reading more about what was going on behind the scenes.

00:37:58.460 There's a lot of involvement, it seems to me, from the federal government.

00:38:02.680 Isn't that then all about the First Amendment?

00:38:06.280 Well, what do I know?

00:38:07.560 Professor Alan Dershowitz, however, knows about this and, well, pretty much everything else.

00:38:12.720 And I'm always so happy to chat with him.

00:38:14.980 Professor, thank you for being here.

00:38:17.460 Well, thank you.

00:38:18.220 And a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and Happy Financt.

00:38:20.860 Everybody may be a joyous season and a better new year for everyone.

00:38:25.460 Oh, here's to a better new year.

00:38:27.200 Absolutely.

00:38:27.640 I, as you know, have had a love-hate relationship with you for years.

00:38:32.560 I grew up hating you because you were defending the Nazis in Skokie and I was a 12-year-old riding a school bus to protest against that.

00:38:40.180 And some, what, 40 years later now, I'm sitting here going, man, I love this Dershowitz guy.

00:38:46.100 Hey, I would have been on your bus protesting the Nazis in Skokie.

00:38:49.900 I had nothing to say other than protest them.

00:38:52.740 I was just against the government trying to interfere with their free speech because I thought it would be much better to defeat them in the marketplace of ideas under the First Amendment.

00:39:04.500 But I would have been on your bus protesting them.

00:39:06.740 I would always protest Nazis and bigotry of any kind.

00:39:10.960 But at the same time, I defend it.

00:39:13.880 That's what I did when I defended President Trump.

00:39:16.220 I voted against him.

00:39:17.580 And I defended him on the floor of the Senate.

00:39:19.420 That's what I've been doing for 60 years of my life.

00:39:23.260 Well, we appreciate your consistency and your honesty.

00:39:27.540 Believe me when I tell you that.

00:39:28.840 It's a record that deserves respect.

00:39:32.020 So tell me what's going on with Twitter.

00:39:34.520 A private company can tell me yes or no.

00:39:36.700 I can be on their platform.

00:39:38.120 But if the FBI and other federal agencies are involved, isn't this now a First Amendment issue?

00:39:43.560 It is, and it's one of the most important and pressing First Amendment issues of the 21st century, and that is the relationship between government actors and private social media.

00:39:56.680 Social media has enormous, enormous power today, so much power that there are arguments that have been made.

00:40:02.740 I don't support them, but arguments that have been made that they've become common carriers and maybe aren't completely free of any constraints by government.

00:40:12.240 But putting that aside, whatever way you come out of that one, having the government's thumb, in this case, elbow on the scale and essentially telling Twitter, Facebook, and others what they should and shouldn't censor really is a double violation of the First Amendment.

00:40:30.500 First of all, it gets the government into the business indirectly of censorship.

00:40:34.680 And second, it does it without transparency.

00:40:37.180 If they did it openly, at least we could protest.

00:40:39.660 But if they do it behind the scenes, and we need Elon Musk buying the company to disclose it, that's a double violation of the spirit and perhaps even the letter of the First Amendment.

00:40:50.960 These are issues that will come before the Supreme Court in the next decade.

00:40:55.800 The next decade.

00:40:57.240 Gosh, we have to—why are we not standing up today and saying, hey, address this?

00:41:02.200 Well, I think it should be addressed.

00:41:04.160 It should be addressed by Congress.

00:41:05.640 They can do it more quickly.

00:41:06.760 It should be addressed in the lower courts.

00:41:09.480 But by the time it gets to the Supreme Court and is formulated as a constitutional issue, it may take as long as a decade.

00:41:19.320 What I'm suggesting is this decade is going to be a decade in which the First Amendment issues revolving around social media and its relation to the government will come to the forefront.

00:41:32.040 It will be one of the most important First Amendment issues.

00:41:36.460 You know, when I said that, some of my colleagues laughed at me.

00:41:39.440 This is five, six years ago.

00:41:41.180 Lawrence Tribe said, how can I think this is a First Amendment issue?

00:41:44.720 This has nothing to do with the First Amendment.

00:41:46.600 Look, any time the government has anything to do with telling us what we can hear, read, write, listen to, that implicates the First Amendment.

00:41:54.080 Yeah.

00:41:55.760 Professor Alan Dershowitz joining us.

00:41:58.060 You mentioned Lawrence Tribe.

00:41:59.860 There are a lot of folks who used to be friends.

00:42:03.280 I don't know what your social status is these days, but they're lining up and seemingly taking this idea to heart that says, well, you know, they were silencing conservatives.

00:42:13.840 So what do we care?

00:42:15.600 No, it's worse than that.

00:42:16.920 They're now actively opposing the First Amendment.

00:42:19.620 They're saying the First Amendment is patriarchal, it's white supremacist, it's elitist.

00:42:26.940 We don't need a First Amendment.

00:42:28.480 For the first time in my 60-year experience as a First Amendment advocate, probably even more than that.

00:42:34.020 I'm now 84 years old.

00:42:35.220 I've been doing it since I was a kid.

00:42:36.900 For the first time in my life, we're seeing academic support for abolishing the First Amendment.

00:42:43.900 We don't need it.

00:42:44.900 It's not necessary.

00:42:46.200 The marketplace of ideas is good enough.

00:42:50.100 There shouldn't be minority rights.

00:42:52.180 Certain things shouldn't be heard.

00:42:54.220 Hate speech shouldn't be heard.

00:42:56.300 Criticism of the left shouldn't be heard.

00:42:59.500 And we're hearing for the first time an attack, a frontal attack on freedom of speech as well as on due process.

00:43:07.040 You know, if you think you have the truth on your side, capital T, capital T, what do you need dissenting opinions for?

00:43:15.020 What do you need due process?

00:43:16.700 We know that if you're accused, you must be guilty.

00:43:19.980 We know that if somebody says something negative about you, it must be true.

00:43:24.360 Why give anybody an opportunity to respond in the marketplace of ideas or in the court of law?

00:43:29.700 Well, that's the road to totalitarianism.

00:43:32.420 When I was a kid, it came from the right during McCarthyism.

00:43:35.420 Now that I'm an old man coming from the left, woke, progressive, anti-freedom attitudes that we're hearing from some of my own colleagues.

00:43:47.500 Professor Alan Dershowitz joining us.

00:43:50.460 You know, Professor, I've mentioned to you before, my oldest boy is at Stanford.

00:43:54.540 He's a junior there.

00:43:55.340 I know you've got a granddaughter, a medical school at Stanford.

00:43:59.700 He, unfortunately, as brilliant as he is, and look, he would tell you how brilliant he was when he marched off to Stanford.

00:44:06.360 And every semester he's there, he's convinced he's even more brilliant.

00:44:09.420 But he is totally buying into exactly what you just said, because the professors, the academy telling him, no, no, no, we don't need any of this.

00:44:20.540 I'm terrified by this.

00:44:22.380 Well, that's why the hard left today is far more dangerous than the McCarthyism ever was.

00:44:27.840 When I was growing up, I thought nothing could be worse than McCarthyism.

00:44:31.360 But McCarthyism was the past that had no influence on university campuses to speak of.

00:44:35.820 But today's sensorial lack of due process is permeating the academy.

00:44:41.940 And so your son, who's today a junior at Stanford 10 years from now, will be a member of Congress or in the editorial board of The New York Times or a Goldman Sachs partner, will be a ruler of the world and making important decisions.

00:44:57.240 And if they're being propagandized today, it's Stanford and Berkeley and Berkeley, for example, you can't speak at 14 clubs unless you announce publicly you're an anti-Zionist and against Israel's right to exist as the nation state of the Jewish people.

00:45:11.800 You can't even speak on Berkeley campus in 14 clubs.

00:45:14.620 It's happening at Princeton, it's happening at Yale, Yale Law School, where I went 60 years ago, shouts down members of the Federalist Society who have a different point of view about certain rights.

00:45:29.600 And we're seeing it at Harvard as well.

00:45:32.740 And so it's the future leaders of America who are being propagandized.

00:45:38.200 That's why it's so dangerous.

00:45:39.940 And that's why your show and others like it presenting an opposing point of view, presenting both sides of issues.

00:45:46.320 Look, you and I and Glenn Beck and I, we tend not to agree on very many things politically.

00:45:52.140 I'm a liberal Democrat, always votes on the left.

00:45:56.080 But I'm a civil libertarian first.

00:45:58.020 And I believe in the Constitution before I believe in partisanship.

00:46:00.700 I am right there with you.

00:46:03.340 And my fear, and you absolutely pointed it out, is that my son and others in his generation will be leaders in another 10 years, 20 years.

00:46:14.100 Never, ever having heard a dissenting opinion, believing that every dissenting opinion is not just wrong, which I always, listen, I always chalk that up to immaturity, right?

00:46:25.780 You're just wrong and that's the end of the argument.

00:46:27.720 But there is now this idea that those who do not agree with woke are not just wrong, they're evil.

00:46:35.800 And of course, as good, upstanding woke folk, they have to eradicate evil.

00:46:40.680 Well, no, that's true.

00:46:42.860 Look, I went to Chilmark, Massachusetts for 53 years.

00:46:45.920 I went there to defend Ted Kennedy at Chappaquiddick.

00:46:49.620 From there, I defended Bill Clinton against his impeachment.

00:46:53.620 And now the general group in Chilmark that I was a part of won't talk to me or my wife.

00:47:01.480 Caroline Kennedy was seated next to me at a dinner party.

00:47:04.020 And she said, if she knew I had been invited, she wouldn't have come.

00:47:07.100 This is the ambassador to Australia who's supposed to be talking to China, can't abide talking to me because I defended President Trump or an old law school friend who said to me, he always invited me to his event every summer.

00:47:20.460 But if he did this summer, it would be, quote, social suicide to be seen with me.

00:47:26.020 Another said, I'll have dinner with you quietly if you promise you won't tell anybody.

00:47:30.520 But, you know, there has been a whole mechanism.

00:47:33.740 Another one invited me to his daughter's engagement party and then disinvited me saying my wife could come.

00:47:40.200 But I couldn't because too many people would walk out if they saw me simply as a result of the fact that I took a different view of the Constitution that they did.

00:47:50.000 And ironically, of course, I was right and they were wrong.

00:47:53.220 The Constitution does not permit impeachment or abuse of power or or contempt of Congress.

00:48:00.000 It only permits impeachment for treason, bribery or other high crimes of misdemeanors.

00:48:04.580 They would have taken the same position had Hillary Clinton been impeached, had she been elected, or if Joe Biden gets impeached.

00:48:10.980 It's just hypocrisy at its worst.

00:48:12.860 And the students are learning hypocrisy.

00:48:16.020 They're learning that it's OK to be a hypocrite and to apply a double standard as long as you come out the right way on woke issues.

00:48:24.420 Professor, I know it's not chill, Mark, and it's none of your really cool friends.

00:48:28.860 And I've never been the ambassador to anything except the second bedroom.

00:48:32.520 But anytime you're in central Virginia, you have a standing offer to come and eat with us publicly where everybody can see that we are chatting amicably.

00:48:44.240 I appreciate that.

00:48:45.820 And I may take you up on it.

00:48:46.980 I love Virginia.

00:48:48.160 It's one of the great states.

00:48:49.860 And, of course, a state that one can't imagine American constitutional law without Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and Madison all coming from the great state of Virginia.

00:49:01.200 So anybody who loves the Constitution has to love Virginia.

00:49:04.400 Well, we love you, Professor, and I wish you nothing but the best.

00:49:07.920 I thank you again for making some time for us and look forward to doing it again in the not-too-distant future.

00:49:13.580 Thank you.

00:49:14.180 Happy New Year, everybody.

00:49:15.260 Thank you.

00:49:15.800 That is Professor Alan Dershowitz.

00:49:18.460 It is Jeff Katz.

00:49:19.600 Happy to be sitting in for Glenn.

00:49:20.880 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:49:22.340 It is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:49:30.740 Jeff Katz.

00:49:32.440 Happy to be sitting in for Glenn.

00:49:33.720 Yes, I'll spell it.

00:49:34.860 K-A-T-Z.

00:49:36.640 Happy to spell it, actually.

00:49:38.040 K-A-T-Z.

00:49:38.940 Don't ask me to spell Dershowitz.

00:49:41.620 It's just Dershowitz.

00:49:42.800 Professor Alan Dershowitz.

00:49:44.040 Did you ever think that you would feel as warm and fuzzy as you do about Professor Alan Dershowitz?

00:49:52.860 I'm not making anything up when I tell you.

00:49:54.960 When I was 12 years old, I hated him.

00:49:56.980 Hated him with a passion.

00:49:58.860 Because there he was in Skokie, Illinois, defending Nazis.

00:50:06.080 Defending them.

00:50:06.880 Now, I was a 12-year-old living in Oxford Circle, section of Philadelphia.

00:50:13.220 It's a mostly Jewish neighborhood.

00:50:16.340 And in our community, we had a number of survivors of the Shoah, the Holocaust.

00:50:24.340 They had numbers tattooed on their arms.

00:50:27.620 I can remember as a little kid, growing up on my street, next to us, we had a husband and wife.

00:50:34.220 Mr. and Mrs. Barg.

00:50:35.940 That was their name.

00:50:37.520 To this day, I don't know what the first name was because I just wasn't raised to address elders by their first name, even when they invited me to.

00:50:47.460 So I only knew them as Mr. and Mrs. Barg.

00:50:50.920 And they were older even at that time.

00:50:55.120 And I remember that my brother and I, amongst other things, had to help our neighbors.

00:51:02.580 They were our neighbors, after all.

00:51:04.240 That's what you did.

00:51:04.980 So, snow is in Philadelphia.

00:51:10.060 We would go out.

00:51:11.480 We would shovel our steps.

00:51:14.760 And then we would shovel Mr. and Mrs. Barg's steps.

00:51:18.160 And then we would shovel a little path between their, I call it a patio, but it's kind of an insult to patios.

00:51:27.020 It was like six feet of cement.

00:51:29.580 But we would shovel a path because Ed, who was the mailman, and we did know Ed, and I never knew his last name, but Ed was our local mailman, and he would have to walk down the street delivering the mail.

00:51:43.060 So we always shoveled a path so that he could get from Mr. and Mrs. Barg's house to our house.

00:51:49.440 And then we would shovel a little path for the house that was right next to us.

00:51:56.120 I mean, next to us.

00:51:56.860 That was attached on each side.

00:51:58.500 It was a row house.

00:51:59.540 And those were the Walsh's.

00:52:01.780 And we knew everybody on the street.

00:52:03.520 And I can remember as a little kid looking at Mr. Barg and seeing the numbers on his arm.

00:52:13.980 And I asked him, what are those numbers?

00:52:21.580 And he hesitated for just a moment.

00:52:23.560 He said, oh, oh, well, Jeffrey, that's our telephone number.

00:52:29.100 I'm very forgetful.

00:52:30.500 So I wrote our telephone number on our arm.

00:52:35.440 And I said, oh, okay.

00:52:40.440 Now, of course, it wasn't his telephone number.

00:52:44.040 But Mr. and Mrs. Barg, like so many people in our neighborhood had survived the Holocaust.

00:52:47.800 And there were a handful of creeps in the neighborhood, just outside the neighborhood, actually,

00:52:56.080 who decided they would attack older people in our neighborhood who were Holocaust survivors.

00:53:03.140 Because the way this worked, some people had cars.

00:53:07.220 Some people didn't.

00:53:09.000 Mr. and Mrs. Barg did not have a car.

00:53:11.240 And Mrs. Barg would walk from her house with a little shopping cart down to Castor Avenue,

00:53:16.160 which was the shopping street, and she would buy groceries, and then she would walk back.

00:53:22.280 Well, these creeps came into the neighborhood, and they looked for people like her.

00:53:27.380 And they had all sorts of awful, ugly, horrible things to say.

00:53:31.620 Hitler didn't get enough of you guys.

00:53:37.080 Hitler should have finished the job.

00:53:38.900 You don't deserve it.

00:53:40.260 Awful things.

00:53:41.080 And then they attacked these older folks who were Holocaust survivors.

00:53:45.120 And so there were a bunch of us that got together.

00:53:50.340 And it was the JDL, the Jewish Defense League, is what it was called.

00:53:54.140 It was organized.

00:53:55.420 And every, I think it was Tuesday evening, a bunch of us would be in the basement of the local synagogue,

00:54:01.080 learning how to fight.

00:54:04.320 And there were some of us of a certain age, 12, 13, 14 years old,

00:54:08.700 we would, as our duty, walk with folks like Mrs. Barg to the grocery store and back

00:54:15.120 so that these thugs did not get to attack her.

00:54:18.820 And as that was happening, these despicable bottom feeders in Skokie, Illinois, decided

00:54:24.620 they would put on their Nazi costumes and march through Skokie,

00:54:30.060 a town filled with Jewish survivors of the Holocaust.

00:54:35.000 And there was this guy, this Dershowitz character,

00:54:39.020 a Jew defending them, and I hated him.

00:54:44.460 And as I got older, I realized Professor Dershowitz wasn't defending the Nazis.

00:54:54.460 He hated them as much as we did.

00:54:56.280 He despised them as much as we did.

00:54:58.840 And as he just told us moments ago, Jeff, I would have been on your bus protesting.

00:55:02.620 He was defending their right to speak freely because unless we defend ugly speech and protect speech

00:55:08.360 with which we disagree, then what the heck is the point?

00:55:11.880 You and I have to stand tall.

00:55:14.920 You can read all of this on the Jeff Katz Show on Facebook, Jeff Katz Show on Twitter.

00:55:20.220 It is Jeff Katz sitting in for Glenn.

00:55:21.960 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:55:24.620 Jeff Katz, happy to be sitting in for Glenn.

00:55:53.340 There is a renewed call for people to, quote, mask up.

00:56:02.860 To put face masks back on because, well, we've got this.

00:56:07.340 It's not just the pandemic, Jeff.

00:56:08.780 The pandemic, I thought the pandemic was over.

00:56:10.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:11.180 Well, the pandemic is over, but COVID theater continues, apparently.

00:56:14.040 A new episode of the COVID show underway.

00:56:19.020 We have a, it's not a pandemic, Jeff.

00:56:23.580 It's triple-demic.

00:56:24.820 We've got COVID.

00:56:26.440 We've got the flu.

00:56:27.780 We've got the cold.

00:56:29.000 We've got some other stuff, too.

00:56:30.180 And you wouldn't understand it because you're not smart enough.

00:56:32.120 Just listen to us.

00:56:32.760 Put your doggone mask on.

00:56:35.200 No.

00:56:36.780 No, I'm not going to do that.

00:56:39.100 And I'm done with all of the subservient behavior that has been forced upon us.

00:56:47.860 I really am.

00:56:48.740 I'm done.

00:56:50.440 Now, you want to wear a mask, you wear a mask.

00:56:53.920 The two times that I will wear a mask, day number one, Halloween.

00:56:58.620 Day number two, if I am ever pressed into emergency surgery somewhere because every actual real surgeon on the planet has vanished.

00:57:07.480 Other than that, I'm good.

00:57:10.200 Thank you very much.

00:57:12.440 I am not going to engage in behavior that teaches our children to be weak, that demands they be dependent because that's what this is part of.

00:57:24.640 And we can argue about whether it helps or it doesn't help.

00:57:28.680 In fact, do you remember Dr. Fauci, that despicable demonic little garden gnome that we saw for years, highest paid government official?

00:57:41.780 He started out when all of the COVID was underway.

00:57:47.360 And in fact, back then we didn't call it COVID, right?

00:57:49.680 It was the Chinese virus or the Wuhan virus because that's what we've always done, right?

00:57:59.440 Lyme disease, Spanish flu.

00:58:03.040 It's always been connected to where it originated.

00:58:06.940 And it's not a knock on anybody.

00:58:11.260 It's just a geographic descriptor.

00:58:14.860 And we've always used that.

00:58:16.200 But now that we're living in this political age where organizations like WHO, World Health Organization, are fundamentally wholly owned subsidiaries of the Chinese Communist government.

00:58:29.560 Well, the Chinese Communist government calls up and says, hey, you got to cut it out with this Chinese virus stuff because it's looking bad for us.

00:58:37.560 Come up with something else.

00:58:38.900 And they did.

00:58:41.000 But way back when it really did begin and it really was located almost exclusively at the beginning in Wuhan, China.

00:58:51.740 We saw images of some of the people in Wuhan wearing masks and Dr. Fauci was on record as saying, well, you know, masks are not going to protect you.

00:59:04.040 That's not going to do anything for you.

00:59:05.780 And then he changed his tune.

00:59:07.960 And then demanded everybody should wear a mask.

00:59:10.640 Well, this continues.

00:59:11.680 Even as you and I are now being told, well, you got to mask up again because we got the triple demic, man.

00:59:17.500 And if you're not wearing a mask, you're one of those bad people.

00:59:20.160 You're an evil person.

00:59:21.040 You just want people to die.

00:59:22.200 You're a terrible, terrible human being.

00:59:24.780 Take a listen to President Biden's COVID advisor.

00:59:30.080 There's no study in the world that shows that masks work that well.

00:59:33.320 So you're never going to get the kind of benefit from mandatory year round masking as you would from making substantial improvements in indoor air.

00:59:41.680 But it's a lot easier to implement as well.

00:59:43.960 A lot easier to implement.

00:59:46.080 There's no benefit, but it's a lot easier to implement.

00:59:50.060 And then we know who's on our side and who's on the wrong side, because that's how they see these things.

00:59:55.380 They don't see it as, well, your opinion and my opinion.

00:59:57.940 They see it as you're wrong because you don't agree with me.

01:00:02.700 So if they are in a position to mandate year round mask wearing, they can see immediately who's following the rules.

01:00:16.180 You're not wearing a mask where you're a bad person.

01:00:18.780 You're going to have to be vilified.

01:00:21.140 You're not going to be allowed to do things.

01:00:23.160 You won't be allowed to transact business.

01:00:25.400 You won't be allowed to support your family.

01:00:27.440 I mean, you might work in one of those non-essential trades.

01:00:33.460 Remember that?

01:00:34.520 Non-essential.

01:00:35.800 What does that mean?

01:00:38.980 Can you honestly tell a parent, a mother or a father, whatever job they're working at, you pick a job you don't like, pick a job you do like.

01:00:53.000 I don't care, but pick a job.

01:00:55.600 Now imagine for a second you are a mother or a father and you work at that job.

01:01:01.440 You may work at that job because part of you loves the job.

01:01:04.580 You may find yourself working there even though you hate the job.

01:01:07.780 But why are you really working?

01:01:08.920 You're working to take care of your children.

01:01:12.480 That's essential any way you slice it.

01:01:14.400 The idea that government bureaucrats who didn't miss a single paycheck, they were not short a nickel.

01:01:26.320 They didn't have to participate in PPP or ABC or XYZ or MOUSE or whatever these other programs were because their checks kept coming.

01:01:35.720 There was no voluntary pay cut forced upon government workers.

01:01:43.860 Take a look in that dreaded private sector though.

01:01:46.200 There were all sorts of companies.

01:01:49.560 Laid people off.

01:01:51.300 Fired people outright.

01:01:53.460 Said to the people that were left, you're going to have to, well, you don't have to.

01:01:59.180 But we'd really like it if you took a pay cut.

01:02:01.260 It's purely voluntary, but, you know, if you don't do it, well, you've got to get all your stuff out of your desk.

01:02:08.020 Doesn't sound that voluntary, but okay.

01:02:11.440 Now tell all of those people.

01:02:14.080 Tell those people who made sacrifices like that.

01:02:17.620 You go ahead and tell them that their work is not essential.

01:02:23.360 It's essential to their children.

01:02:26.880 It's essential to their sons and daughters being able to eat every day and live indoors and have clothing that fits.

01:02:33.520 They're essential.

01:02:36.260 The government's bureaucrats?

01:02:40.260 Were they essential?

01:02:41.840 I don't know.

01:02:43.880 And I'm not talking about frontline personnel.

01:02:45.980 I'm not talking about police officers, firefighters, EMTs.

01:02:50.020 They are essential.

01:02:51.420 We all know that.

01:02:52.180 We all agree on that, don't we?

01:02:54.260 No, I'm talking about bureaucrats.

01:02:57.060 I'm talking about paper pushers who never, ever lost a nickel.

01:03:04.460 Why?

01:03:04.960 Because it's your money.

01:03:07.580 They haven't run out of your money yet or my money yet, and even if they find that they're getting close to running out,

01:03:12.980 they'll just fire up the printing press and print more money.

01:03:17.060 It's all fiat money, by the way.

01:03:21.660 They never lost a nickel.

01:03:23.200 They were never faced with the prospect of taking a voluntary pay cut or losing their job.

01:03:32.540 In fact, some of these people actually wound up getting bonuses.

01:03:36.900 Am I really supposed to look to them and say, oh, I trust you?

01:03:43.820 Because I don't.

01:03:45.640 It's the same battle I fought with my oldest boy.

01:03:49.660 He came back from Stanford.

01:03:53.820 See?

01:03:54.160 Worked it in again.

01:03:55.060 But he came back from Stanford as COVID is hitting.

01:03:58.200 In fact, I don't think it was even called COVID at the time.

01:04:00.080 I think it was still the Wuhan flu or the Chinese virus, whatever.

01:04:05.380 I don't even remember what it was, but it wasn't COVID, right?

01:04:07.720 But I remember he called and said, hey, listen, they're going to close down the campus for two weeks, so I got to come home.

01:04:15.660 Can you get me an airplane ticket?

01:04:17.300 And so, being the loving dad that I am, I got online.

01:04:22.960 I got him an airplane ticket.

01:04:25.140 And he came back for two weeks.

01:04:26.780 Wound up staying for 18 months, but he came back for two weeks.

01:04:29.540 And during the 18 months, as apparently the entire world was just disintegrating before our very eyes, he was, in many ways, terrified.

01:04:44.980 And he didn't say, oh, my gosh, I'm terrified, but I could see what he was going through.

01:04:49.980 I could listen to him.

01:04:51.300 The conversations we had.

01:04:53.900 He believed with his very core that this was it.

01:04:58.440 It was all coming to an end and how unfair that was.

01:05:01.340 And, my gosh, you know, I just got to Stanford and it's just not right.

01:05:05.780 I, on the other hand, thought, oh, here we go again.

01:05:09.320 And he was angry with me.

01:05:11.220 I mean, really, really angry.

01:05:13.220 He was torqued.

01:05:14.180 Why?

01:05:14.860 Because I wasn't taking it as seriously as he was.

01:05:18.380 Now, why was that?

01:05:20.460 Because I loved illness and sickness and germs?

01:05:23.320 Not even close.

01:05:25.700 I think I mentioned to you yesterday, right?

01:05:27.280 I've always been the guy with two huge bottles of Purell on my desk.

01:05:33.420 I don't like germs.

01:05:34.860 Not a germaphobe, but I don't like them.

01:05:38.620 But I had been through this stuff before.

01:05:42.020 I survived Ebola and bird flu and swine flu and all of the other end-of-the-world situations that we had seen.

01:05:52.180 And it was at that time that I finally fully appreciated why certain people of a certain age always begin by telling you how old they are.

01:06:02.940 When I was younger and people would do that, you know, Jeff, I'm 72.

01:06:10.900 I think, oh, okay, whatever.

01:06:12.860 Who cares?

01:06:13.380 Why do you have to tell me how old you are?

01:06:16.240 And people of a certain age almost always begin the conversation by telling you how old they are.

01:06:22.760 And I used to find that so flippant annoying.

01:06:24.960 My God, why are you doing that?

01:06:26.840 And then I realized it.

01:06:28.700 Oh, I get it.

01:06:30.380 You've been through a lot.

01:06:31.940 You've seen a lot.

01:06:33.280 You've done a lot.

01:06:34.360 You're not going to be suckered.

01:06:36.120 You're not going to be subjugated because you already have lived through this sort of nonsense.

01:06:41.660 I get it now.

01:06:44.400 And so I find myself saying things like, well, in my five decades, because I just want people to have a little glimpse into this.

01:06:52.360 And that's what I told my oldest boy.

01:06:54.060 I said, dude, I've lived through all of these other end-of-the-world scenarios, and I'm still here.

01:07:00.740 And you may not like what I have to say.

01:07:02.500 Heck, you may not even like me sometimes.

01:07:04.440 Oh, it's not true.

01:07:05.180 Well, whatever.

01:07:05.880 But I'm just telling you, I am not, not going to be under anybody's thumb for this or any other reason.

01:07:14.160 Just not going to happen.

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01:07:16.440 I would love to have you step up and be part of this.

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01:08:30.320 Take a look.

01:08:34.180 Take a look at the attempts to control speech.

01:08:37.700 Professor Alan Dershowitz was here a little bit earlier.

01:08:41.220 If you missed it, go to theblaze.com.

01:08:44.020 You're always able to listen to podcasts.

01:08:46.900 And if you're not looking at theblaze.com multiple times a day,

01:08:50.480 you're doing yourself a disservice.

01:08:52.440 Glenn Beck.com, another wonderful resource.

01:08:59.000 Every day in my email box, there's an update.

01:09:02.900 There's a report.

01:09:03.740 There's some suggested reading that comes from Glenn.

01:09:06.660 And I find it very valuable.

01:09:08.320 So glennbeck.com and theblaze.com are two must-visit websites for you.

01:09:15.480 See what people in power are saying about speech.

01:09:23.240 Take a look at what is being done.

01:09:25.640 How many times can Glenn talk about the Great Reset before people start paying attention and say,

01:09:30.840 Oh my gosh, yeah, now I get it.

01:09:34.100 Because it's really easy at first when you talk about the Great Reset.

01:09:38.040 You're talking about any of these things.

01:09:39.060 And people go, Ah, you're just nuts.

01:09:41.660 Yeah, it's a conspiracy theory.

01:09:43.680 You're just part of a conspiracy theory.

01:09:46.260 Well, I tell you right now, I'm not part of any conspiracy theory.

01:09:49.940 And I think if we're all going to be involved in this conspiracy,

01:09:52.200 we're going to need a lot more tape to wrap around our heads.

01:09:59.840 But this is not conspiratorial in nature.

01:10:03.760 This is looking at, well, as an example, World Economic Forum in Davos.

01:10:10.640 They say it right there.

01:10:11.700 Here's what we're going to do.

01:10:12.520 Here's how we're going to do it.

01:10:13.980 You're not going to own anything.

01:10:15.140 You're going to be happy about it.

01:10:17.160 We'll take care of everything.

01:10:18.600 And then you just have to shut your mouth.

01:10:22.320 Take a look at college campuses.

01:10:25.460 College campuses where college students are now being taught any dissent is just evil.

01:10:30.040 We know what the truth is.

01:10:31.540 And if you are not in line with these woke points, well, then clearly you are wrong.

01:10:38.360 And because you are wrong, nobody has to listen to you.

01:10:40.820 In fact, nobody should listen to you.

01:10:43.640 It is about demonizing those of us who don't subscribe to their ideology.

01:10:51.440 Well, gee, that's what is so evil about it.

01:10:56.100 Something as simple as saying, well, we have boys and we have girls.

01:10:59.900 Let's get on with the rest of our day.

01:11:01.420 If you go over to the Jeff Katz show page right now on Facebook, I have a video of a guy claiming that he is suffering from intense period cramps.

01:11:14.680 Unless you have to look at the video, you just have to look at the video and you will understand the nonsensical nature of so much that is being forced upon us right now.

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01:12:55.560 Exactly why would the FBI be involved with Twitter?

01:13:00.880 Insight from a career FBI special agent 60 seconds from now.

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01:13:26.640 We were talking about the Twitter files.

01:13:29.780 Elon Musk purchases Twitter for, what, $44 billion?

01:13:35.740 And starts poking around the file cabinets, the executive washroom.

01:13:41.260 Finds a whole bunch of stuff and starts releasing this.

01:13:45.020 And a lot of it is really disturbing.

01:13:47.000 Now, some of it, the shadow banning, the removal of followers and the rest of it.

01:13:52.480 You could say, hey, it's private company.

01:13:55.680 It could do what they want to do.

01:13:57.600 But the involvement, apparently, on the part of some Department of Justice folks and some FBI agents gives me pause for concern.

01:14:09.860 We discussed it a little bit a few moments ago with Professor Alan Dershowitz.

01:14:15.180 And I wanted to reach out to somebody who had, to put it mildly, a distinguished career as a special agent with the FBI.

01:14:23.320 Who was willing to say, all right, let me take a look at this and let's chat about it.

01:14:27.340 That's Bobby Chacon.

01:14:28.260 I'm happy to say that Bobby is joining us.

01:14:29.920 Bobby, thank you for being here.

01:14:32.060 Good to be here, Jeff.

01:14:32.860 Thanks.

01:14:33.160 What is your, just your gut check sense?

01:14:37.120 You're looking at these Twitter files come out.

01:14:39.500 They're pointing towards some folks from the FBI being involved.

01:14:44.000 Is it just all nonsense?

01:14:46.000 Is there something here we need to know about?

01:14:48.900 Well, yeah, it's a lot more than nonsense.

01:14:51.580 It's dangerous.

01:14:53.780 It's shocking to a lot of us former agents.

01:14:55.800 I've been speaking to many of my former colleagues over the last few weeks about this daily.

01:15:00.740 We're in communication with each other.

01:15:02.920 And it's one more shocking revelation of how the FBI has gone off the rails politically and engaged in behavior that is not law enforcement.

01:15:14.760 And it's much more towards policy, enforcing policies and becoming henchmen for other people in the government and in private sector.

01:15:25.840 So, I mean, the FBI has had a couple of bumps along the road, right?

01:15:31.340 My oldest boy is home from Stanford and couldn't wait to show me a book all about COINTELPRO.

01:15:37.100 See, see, I told you so.

01:15:38.420 But for the most part, every brick agent that I've ever known, Bobby, has been by the book straight up and down saying, man, this is not a political thing.

01:15:48.860 We're not active that way.

01:15:51.140 We're politically agnostic.

01:15:52.500 We're going after bad guys.

01:15:54.440 So is the mission different or is this just a handful of people on that seventh floor saying, look, here's what we really want you to do?

01:16:02.780 Well, certainly the mission isn't different from a statutory standpoint.

01:16:05.720 We are legally tasked with enforcing federal law.

01:16:09.740 Now, the question becomes not only from the seventh floor, but also from the executive ranks in the field, the SACs, the special agents in charge of the field offices like San Francisco in the case of Twitter.

01:16:22.780 And so it's more than just the seventh floor.

01:16:26.940 But to me, it doesn't really reach the rank and file.

01:16:30.720 And that may be just my emotional tie, because for 27 years, I was a street agent.

01:16:35.760 I did not go into management ever.

01:16:37.720 It was not my intent or my objective ever in my career.

01:16:40.400 So but I did see an alarming change in the type of people that were going into management, rising through the ranks just before I retired in 2014.

01:16:49.020 I mean, the likes of Andy McCabe and Peter Strzok and things like that, people like that that I saw, you know, just thirsting for power.

01:16:57.840 And then you get inside the beltway for too long and then you have, you know, people get in bed with each other.

01:17:04.760 McCabe's wife was running as a Democrat and receiving money from Terry McCaul.

01:17:08.220 Things like that were never heard of in my time in the 80s and early 90s when I had first come into the FBI.

01:17:15.520 And unfortunately, now it does seem to be a cabal.

01:17:19.080 But I think it extends, unfortunately, beyond the seventh floor because FBI headquarters is a revolving door.

01:17:25.580 And they all kind of jump for two years at the headquarters and back in the field, back to headquarters, back to the field.

01:17:30.560 And each time they're notching, they're going up a notch in the ladder.

01:17:33.640 So a lot of these people that spend time in the seventh floor are then out in the field offices and then back and forth.

01:17:39.100 So there are alarming behaviors on the part of some of these special agents in charge who are complicit with their buddies back at FBI headquarters on the seventh floor.

01:17:49.180 Bobby Chacon is joining us.

01:17:50.880 Bobby is, well, a lot of things.

01:17:53.960 Bobby, I can't list everything, but my goodness, 27 years, distinguished careers with the FBI in Hollywood now, screenwriter and producer.

01:18:03.640 And all of this other stuff.

01:18:05.660 One of the things that I have heard recently, Bobby, that concerns me are calls from people who ordinarily, traditionally, you would say were big supporters of law enforcement, now standing up and saying, we just need to dismantle the entire bureau.

01:18:20.960 Is that realistic?

01:18:22.280 Is that a good idea?

01:18:24.340 I don't think it's realistic or a good idea.

01:18:26.640 I think that when you have, you know, there are organizations that, you know, go down a certain path and then need to be reformed.

01:18:33.920 I think that major reforms are needed, sure.

01:18:36.440 But I don't think the dismantling, like I said, I don't think it's practical to think that way.

01:18:40.840 The FBI has been in existence for over 100 years.

01:18:42.740 The last big agency that I remember that they wanted to dismantle was the ATF and President Reagan nixed that idea.

01:18:50.300 But the paperwork was already done and how the rest of the agency was absorbed.

01:18:55.400 It's just a behemoth to think about.

01:18:58.260 And the government moves so slowly on these things.

01:19:01.300 But I think reform, certainly reform is needed because, you know, we've been talking amongst ourselves and, you know, my network of retired agents.

01:19:08.620 And, I mean, these Twitter files are so disturbing.

01:19:12.340 I mean, they make the Pentagon papers look like a junior high school book report in the fact that you had a government agency tied to a private company, Twitter, right?

01:19:25.300 And now the FBI was asking Twitter to shut down certain things that it popped up as misinformation during the election.

01:19:34.120 First of all, what's the federal crime there?

01:19:36.140 The fact that the FBI had a national election command post is disturbing in itself because the traditional Department of Justice policy was 90 days before an election.

01:19:46.500 We didn't make any arrests on public corruption cases.

01:19:49.300 We didn't do anything that might even give the perception of putting our finger or thumb on the scale of an election.

01:19:56.220 So this is the opposite.

01:19:57.920 Now we're standing up a national election command post.

01:20:00.360 What's the crime committed?

01:20:01.780 If somebody puts out, look, politicians have lied since politics started in the United States, right?

01:20:07.500 Hillary Clinton never came under fire in a helicopter.

01:20:10.820 She lied about that.

01:20:11.880 There was no effort to censor her about that.

01:20:14.560 You know, Joe Biden's wife was not killed by a drunk driver.

01:20:18.380 He keeps repeating that.

01:20:19.720 Nobody ever tries to censor that information.

01:20:21.920 That's misinformation.

01:20:23.260 Both of those are very famous lies told by politicians.

01:20:26.780 And we expect that from politicians.

01:20:28.820 We expect that from politicians' supporters.

01:20:31.420 We expect it from PACs.

01:20:33.220 We expect it from, you know, partisans.

01:20:35.700 And so the fact that people lie is not new.

01:20:38.680 It's nothing new.

01:20:39.680 This quote-unquote now misinformation that we need to stop from getting out, there's no crime there.

01:20:44.940 I'm sure that there are some lawyers in the FBI headquarters who came up with some cockamamie theory of what crimes that they were going to try to investigate.

01:20:53.660 But from my look at it, these are terms of service violations that Twitter should on its own look at.

01:20:59.860 And if they, you know, they're a private company, they can censor whoever they want, right?

01:21:04.060 Because that goes against their company policies, and you agree to those when you establish an account.

01:21:09.980 But for the government to step in and point Twitter in the direction of a certain group of people saying censor this information because we don't like it, or we think it's misinformation, it's not a crime.

01:21:20.560 The FBI shouldn't be involved in that.

01:21:22.000 Bobby Chacon joining us, a career FBI agent, a distinguished career, to put it mildly.

01:21:29.500 Bobby, one of the things I've heard as well, folks say to me, look, Jeff, I get it.

01:21:35.680 The guys out in the field, the gals out in the field, they're not really the problem.

01:21:39.620 But they should stand up to their supervisors.

01:21:43.200 They should stand up and tell their bosses, no, we're not going to do that.

01:21:47.960 Is there a mechanism inside the Bureau for you as a special agent to turn to your ASAC or your special agent in charge and say, no, sir, no, ma'am, I'm not going to do that?

01:22:00.160 Well, you know, there are general whistleblower protections in the government, and we've seen, you know, special agent friend and other people like him start to do that.

01:22:10.640 I really have a really tough time with this question that you pose because, you know, I spent my career, I saw things I didn't like.

01:22:18.640 It didn't really affect me to do my job.

01:22:20.540 I was putting bad guys in jail.

01:22:21.840 And, you know, while we would talk about it over coffee or something, you know, it wasn't something I wanted to risk my career and the livelihood that I supported my family with.

01:22:32.280 So it's a really difficult position for me to be in because, you know, you go into government with the goal of, you know, doing a certain amount of time and getting a pension at the end.

01:22:40.460 And I was a lawyer before I went in the FBI, so I could have had a lucrative career in law, you know, and so I, you know, I foregone that financial gain because it was a job I loved and I was dedicated to putting bad people in jail.

01:22:55.140 And, you know, I would, you know, when I was 15, 16, 18 years, you know, just a few years from retirement, it would have been tougher for me to say, I'm going to throw this all away because of politics and because the FBI is involved.

01:23:07.840 Now, if I was ever personally involved or I was personally told to do something, that's different.

01:23:13.820 That would be a different – I was never in that position.

01:23:16.880 I kind of heard grumblings of things happening back in headquarters, but that was – I was in Los Angeles.

01:23:21.300 That was, you know, thousands of miles away and really didn't affect my day-to-day actions as an agent, which I think is the position a lot of agents are in there today.

01:23:29.960 They're out there working bank robberies.

01:23:31.340 They're out there working kidnappings, terrorism.

01:23:33.020 We just arrested a top-ten fugitive in Mexico.

01:23:34.900 We work in murder investigations, RICO, organized crime, and some of this stuff they read about in the news, but they don't face it every day at the office that they go into.

01:23:45.260 But there are – like you said, there are agents like in Indianapolis during the bungled investigation into the U.S. gymnasts, which was an SAC that really should never get a pension, and he did.

01:23:58.360 They allowed him to retire early, but there are agents that do come across this, and there are, you know, whistleblower statutes.

01:24:05.240 I don't know if they're – if they need to be, you know, upgraded or whatever, but, you know, Senator Grassley has always been a big supporter of, you know, people inside the government being able to come forward and testify and not, you know, suffer repercussions.

01:24:17.300 But I saw it in the FBI.

01:24:18.420 I saw people step forward and get fired, you know, and suffer retaliation for stepping forward.

01:24:24.260 It shouldn't happen, but it does.

01:24:26.060 And, you know, every time it happens, it should be looked at very closely.

01:24:29.540 This, I don't think – these Twitter files, I think, you know, the Justice Department can't look in itself.

01:24:35.400 The FBI shouldn't be investigating itself.

01:24:36.840 This has to come from an outside agency or Congress needs to look at it in hearings or something because this is a very serious merging of government function and private industry to go after people that are not breaking the law.

01:24:51.980 And, you know, the FBI – I know that they tried to say it was some foreign thing, but this was the San Francisco field office because that's what the Twitter headquarters was covered by.

01:25:01.980 And this was the special agent in charge of the San Francisco field office and agents in that office working for the FBI's National Election Command post back at headquarters doing the bidding of somebody in Washington.

01:25:13.960 Who it was, I don't know.

01:25:15.740 Whether or not this was confined to the FBI saying, you know, we're going to – we want you to monitor all this misinformation.

01:25:20.840 As soon as we spot it, we want you to shut them down.

01:25:23.220 That's improper, first of all.

01:25:24.520 And my question is, were people at FBI headquarters taking direction from either the Justice Department or people from the White House?

01:25:31.980 Great points.

01:25:33.360 Bobby Chacon, thank you so much for making time for us.

01:25:35.880 That is Bobby Chacon, a retired FBI special agent, 27 years, distinguished career.

01:25:42.600 He's an attorney by training.

01:25:44.320 He's a screenwriter and a producer in Hollywood and just one of the best of the best.

01:25:50.880 I always appreciate the chance that I get every once in a while to chat with him.

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01:26:06.100 Another little milestone to hit.

01:26:07.900 That would be great.

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01:26:12.420 It is JeffKatz in for my friend Glenn.

01:26:14.180 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:26:29.380 1-888-727-BECK.

01:26:31.900 1-888-727-BECK.

01:26:36.580 I definitely want to chat with you, that's for sure.

01:26:40.440 But I also want you to take a little something that came out.

01:26:45.140 I don't know, it wasn't the libs of TikTok.

01:26:47.680 Maybe it was the libs of TikTok came out with this or somebody else.

01:26:51.000 I am not on TikTok by design.

01:26:54.860 I feel that I'm really not interested in helping the Chinese Communist Party if I get the opportunity to not help them.

01:27:02.820 But somebody dug out an old video of Mr. Rogers.

01:27:08.720 You remember Mr. Rogers?

01:27:11.040 Super nice guy.

01:27:12.220 Liked everybody.

01:27:13.720 I mean, he really did.

01:27:14.580 Liked everybody.

01:27:17.220 He also could explain everything.

01:27:21.200 Let's take a listen to Mr. Rogers.

01:27:24.320 Boys are boys from the beginning.

01:27:27.720 If you were born a boy, you stay a boy.

01:27:30.600 Girls are girls right from the start.

01:27:34.760 If you were born a girl, you stay a girl and grow up to be a lady.

01:27:40.660 Everybody's fancy.

01:27:42.760 Everybody's fine.

01:27:44.720 Your body's fancy.

01:27:46.860 And so is mine.

01:27:49.500 Only girls can be the mommies.

01:27:54.000 Only boys can be the daddies.

01:27:57.380 Yes, sir.

01:27:58.120 Everybody's fancy.

01:28:01.000 Everybody's fine.

01:28:02.920 Could you imagine, in this day and age, such a dangerous statement?

01:28:12.140 You can't say that.

01:28:15.640 Boys are born boys and they'll always be boys.

01:28:19.020 No, no, no.

01:28:20.700 You can be anything you want.

01:28:23.500 Except you can't.

01:28:24.600 And girls are born girls and will always be girls.

01:28:28.740 And that's not...

01:28:29.560 No, no, Rogers, you fascist.

01:28:33.220 You're an awful human being, Fred Rogers.

01:28:35.520 How dare you say those things?

01:28:37.560 What do you mean only boys can be daddies?

01:28:41.980 That's outrageous.

01:28:43.800 You can't say that.

01:28:46.040 Only girls can be mommies.

01:28:48.420 Don't you understand that guys suffer from menstrual cramps?

01:28:53.680 No, they don't.

01:28:55.200 Yes, they do.

01:28:56.000 Anybody can be anything they want.

01:28:58.560 No, they can't.

01:29:01.980 Only boys can be daddies and only girls can be mommies.

01:29:06.980 It's about as basic as it gets, right?

01:29:13.080 Does anybody really want to accuse Mr. Rogers of being a hater?

01:29:18.300 Because that's how you and I are now labeled, you see.

01:29:22.440 To get us to just shut up.

01:29:25.340 Well, you're just filled with hate.

01:29:29.320 Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.

01:29:31.820 You think if you're like me, man, I really don't hate anybody with the exception.

01:29:38.700 Child molesters?

01:29:39.800 Oh, of course I hate them.

01:29:41.920 They're evil human beings.

01:29:43.560 I do hate child molesters.

01:29:44.960 But other than that, I don't really hate anybody.

01:29:49.720 Some people I don't particularly care for.

01:29:54.120 I don't hate you if you decide, well, I'm going to wear makeup and women's clothing.

01:29:58.980 Okay, knock yourself out.

01:30:00.740 I don't care.

01:30:02.860 Well, I'm not going to wear makeup.

01:30:04.940 I'm not going to wear women's clothing.

01:30:06.640 Well, once again, I don't really care.

01:30:08.700 But when you get down to basic facts, remember we're supposed to follow the science.

01:30:16.420 You do remember that that phrase was really, really popular for a while.

01:30:20.900 Follow the science.

01:30:23.340 Well, listen.

01:30:25.260 We're following the science.

01:30:28.220 And this Mr. Rogers character?

01:30:32.040 Not a hater.

01:30:33.600 Not a bigot.

01:30:35.660 Not mean, nasty, cruel.

01:30:38.700 He said it.

01:30:40.780 Boys will always be boys and girls will always be girls.

01:30:45.660 Only boys can be the daddies.

01:30:47.840 Only girls can be the mommies.

01:30:51.800 Go ahead.

01:30:53.200 Tell me that Fred Rogers was a mean, evil, phobic hater.

01:31:02.340 Because people, if they're going to be honest, would stand up and say,

01:31:05.000 Oh, you have lost your mind.

01:31:07.500 But, okay, I got so much that I do want to share with you, including a development coming

01:31:14.860 out of West Point.

01:31:16.340 They're ditching completely Robert E. Lee, one of their most accomplished graduates.

01:31:22.700 You can read the story right now on Facebook, The Jeff Katt Show, or on Twitter, Jeff Katt Show.

01:31:28.620 It is Jeff Katt's in for Glenn.

01:31:30.780 It is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:31:32.340 Jeff Katt's in for Glenn.

01:32:02.320 Blaine.

01:32:03.120 727-B-E-C.

01:32:05.920 Okay, let me head on over to Blaine, who's listening in Louisiana.

01:32:10.980 Blaine, you're on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:32:14.280 Blaine?

01:32:15.380 Hi, Blaine.

01:32:15.820 All right, let's move on to Ben, who's out in Indiana.

01:32:20.660 Ben, you're on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:32:23.460 Hey, thanks for taking my call today.

01:32:25.440 Yes, sir.

01:32:26.140 I'm a long-time listener, first-time caller into this program.

01:32:29.700 Welcome.

01:32:30.200 I really appreciate you taking my call.

01:32:32.940 I wanted to talk about our fight for our public schools.

01:32:37.040 Yeah.

01:32:37.160 Because I think it got off.

01:32:37.960 Oftentimes, I think it goes unnoticed, okay?

01:32:41.340 Mm-hmm.

01:32:41.640 What you may not know is I am a very small-time conservative content creator, so my YouTube handle is...

01:32:49.640 Recently made a video that talks about my state, okay?

01:32:55.580 Oh, thanks very much.

01:32:57.900 You think he was wearing shoes?

01:33:00.380 I always am concerned about that.

01:33:02.420 By the way, before he kind of went in that direction, I talked about school boards for a second.

01:33:10.940 It's the most overlooked part of government.

01:33:15.980 And it really is darn near the most important, isn't it?

01:33:20.820 We think about this.

01:33:22.200 We talk about it.

01:33:23.160 We vote for president.

01:33:24.120 We need a strong president.

01:33:26.000 And we do.

01:33:26.820 I'm not diminishing that.

01:33:28.100 But the reality is that Slow Mo Joe, who, by the way, is on a vacation as we speak, right?

01:33:35.960 Headed to the Virgin Islands because, well, why not?

01:33:39.580 And nobody will know the difference.

01:33:41.080 Whether Joe Biden is wearing his terrycloth bathrobe and his fuzzy bunny slippers shuffling aimlessly around the Oval Office,

01:33:48.580 or he's trying to ride a bicycle down in the Virgin Islands and hoping against hope he doesn't fall off

01:33:53.740 and look like a complete and total doofus.

01:33:55.680 Doesn't matter where he is.

01:33:57.760 Because he's not really in charge of anything, I don't think.

01:34:02.800 It's like a giant meat puppet, this guy.

01:34:05.600 Our presidential meat puppet.

01:34:07.300 Did they make his arms move?

01:34:08.760 His lips move?

01:34:09.760 Sometimes he actually says what it is that they wanted him to say.

01:34:13.660 Sometimes he says the part that he was never supposed to say out loud.

01:34:17.020 But it doesn't matter.

01:34:18.880 Because you've got so many water carriers in the legacy news media ranks that whatever he says or does, he gets away with.

01:34:24.800 But anyway, sort of digress there for a second.

01:34:28.960 The school board issue.

01:34:29.920 You have kids in schools?

01:34:33.320 You have grandkids in schools?

01:34:34.780 You got a nephew?

01:34:35.320 You got a niece?

01:34:35.840 Let me tell you something.

01:34:36.520 You better know what the heck's going on in their schools.

01:34:40.360 And school boards are sort of like the incubators for some of these outrageous, insane, dangerous policies.

01:34:48.300 And there's a reason for that.

01:34:51.120 There's a big reason.

01:34:52.140 Because the younger these people are, when you start indoctrinating them, the easier it is to control them along the path.

01:35:09.180 If you take a look at the situation, then you'll understand.

01:35:12.940 I'm going to give you a personal example, okay?

01:35:15.820 Years ago, we lived in Charlotte, North Carolina.

01:35:19.540 And I loved Charlotte.

01:35:21.000 I really did.

01:35:21.680 A wonderful city.

01:35:22.840 Great radio station.

01:35:24.020 The whole bit.

01:35:24.940 We still have friends in Charlotte.

01:35:27.700 Our friend Linda Jones makes the best chocolate chip cookies anywhere on the planet.

01:35:35.480 I love Charlotte.

01:35:37.800 But there was a weird thing that happened.

01:35:40.620 My oldest boy, who I haven't mentioned, and gosh, it's got to be five minutes now, is a junior at Stanford University now.

01:35:48.360 My oldest boy was in kindergarten.

01:35:51.700 And he came home one day.

01:35:56.400 And he says to me, Dad, why does George Bush hate polar bears?

01:36:03.200 And I remember thinking, gosh, what a bizarre question.

01:36:08.660 And another part of it that really bugged me was, you're five years old.

01:36:13.880 You can't talk about President Bush and call him George like you've been buddies with him for your lifetime.

01:36:20.760 It doesn't work that way.

01:36:22.260 It's certainly not in my house.

01:36:24.640 I said, well, Harry, first of all, it's President Bush because you're not pals with the president.

01:36:33.940 You can't call him by his first name.

01:36:36.660 Oh, okay.

01:36:37.600 This is way back when he actually listened to me and thought I might know something.

01:36:42.220 And then I said, Harry, President Bush doesn't hate polar bears.

01:36:46.940 Where'd you get such a crazy idea?

01:36:49.680 And I, honest to goodness, don't remember the name of his kindergarten teacher.

01:36:52.880 But he said, well, Mrs. So-and-so told us that today.

01:36:56.580 I said, you did?

01:36:58.500 Yeah.

01:36:59.120 Why?

01:36:59.780 What was the conversation?

01:37:01.180 And he started providing to me this report on what had happened in a kindergarten classroom.

01:37:11.400 Heidi kind of walked in in the middle.

01:37:14.900 And she could see clearly, uh-oh, there's got to be trouble.

01:37:21.840 Because I said, well, I got to go to school tomorrow.

01:37:23.520 I'm going to the kindergarten teacher.

01:37:25.440 Oh, please don't.

01:37:26.720 Don't make trouble for us.

01:37:28.120 I said, well, I'm not making trouble.

01:37:29.680 But I don't want my son's head filled with some inane drivel that purports to be education.

01:37:40.900 I mean, it's kindergarten, for God's sakes.

01:37:42.820 What's the most important thing in kindergarten?

01:37:45.320 Think about it.

01:37:45.940 Besides nap time, what's the second most important thing in kindergarten?

01:37:49.920 Learning that your nose is not a snack dispenser.

01:37:53.160 That's kindergarten.

01:37:53.820 Oh, and here's a blank sheet and some crayons.

01:37:57.300 Go color it in and then go take a nap and don't eat anything that comes out of your nose.

01:38:01.560 That's it.

01:38:02.380 It's kindergarten.

01:38:04.480 Mm-mm.

01:38:05.600 They had started early.

01:38:08.780 And this boy, five years old at that time, came home.

01:38:15.240 And because his teacher had told him it had to be true.

01:38:20.380 And she had told him that President Bush hated polar bears.

01:38:24.420 Now, I've seen it throughout the years with the education in certain places, not all.

01:38:35.340 But some places sort of glaze over 9-11.

01:38:40.320 If you're of a certain age, you just never knew that the World Trade Center used to be there.

01:38:50.340 We just came through the Christmas season, right?

01:38:53.520 And what is one of the things that most of us do during the Christmas season?

01:38:56.980 Whether you're celebrating Christmas or not, do you not watch certain movies?

01:39:02.060 So we have a whole list of holiday movies.

01:39:06.100 I would tell you that there's a great Hanukkah movie out there, but there's not.

01:39:11.160 It's like the songs.

01:39:13.440 We have exactly two Hanukkah songs.

01:39:15.800 We've got Dreidel, Dreidel, Dreidel.

01:39:17.720 Out of 10,000 different versions of it, but it's one song, Dreidel, Dreidel, Dreidel.

01:39:22.280 And then we have Adam Sandler and the Hanukkah song, and that's it.

01:39:24.780 And there's all this great Christmas music.

01:39:26.780 Well, it's the same thing in the movie section.

01:39:29.240 No great Hanukkah movies, but there's some great Christmas movies, and I don't mind watching them.

01:39:33.660 I think they're great stories.

01:39:34.700 I love them.

01:39:35.360 I love Christmas movies.

01:39:36.620 So we watch White Christmas every year with Danny Kaye and Bing Crosby.

01:39:43.220 We watch Love the Coopers.

01:39:48.860 Yeah.

01:39:49.340 The Family Stone.

01:39:50.780 It's a Wonderful Life, A Christmas Carol, whatever version we're going to watch, but we absolutely watch a version of the Christmas Carol.

01:40:00.480 Miracle and 34th Street.

01:40:02.140 They're great movies.

01:40:03.100 And one of them we watch every single year is The Family Man, and that's with Nicolas Cage and Teo Leone, and it's a great film.

01:40:15.380 For me, any film that involves Teo Leone is a great film, but this really is a great film.

01:40:22.640 Nicolas Cage is, at the beginning, he's this big, high-powered Wall Street dude.

01:40:32.140 And what's really striking for me and for Heidi, not just the story, although the story is a great one, and for me, again, did I mention Teo Leone?

01:40:40.740 Yeah.

01:40:41.100 I love Teo Leone.

01:40:42.360 I love Teo Leone.

01:41:13.280 Positively no first-hand recollection of the World Trade Center.

01:41:18.140 Now, we used to drive by them when we lived in Charlotte and we were traveling up to New England to see my in-laws.

01:41:24.300 We'd go through New Jersey, and we'd always look to the right, and there were the World Trade Center towers.

01:41:31.540 But he doesn't remember that.

01:41:33.940 And for him, when he watches that movie, it doesn't really mean anything.

01:41:38.260 And part of it is because schools have just sort of, they happily breezed by September the 11th.

01:41:47.260 I think September 11th ought to be an entire piece of curriculum on its own.

01:41:55.980 It's a huge story.

01:41:58.140 It's a major impact on our nation.

01:42:00.440 And instead, it's covered in a couple of paragraphs.

01:42:05.880 So that's the point of this, is that the school boards make these decisions.

01:42:14.580 What books will be read?

01:42:15.680 What books won't be read?

01:42:16.940 Are you really going to have these pornographic books in school libraries?

01:42:21.920 Well, they're everywhere, in middle schools, absolutely outrageous books.

01:42:27.860 It's up to parents.

01:42:30.240 And so we can argue about control of Congress.

01:42:33.520 We can debate who's really doing things in the Senate.

01:42:36.320 We can get involved one way or the other with the presidential race.

01:42:39.960 But let me tell you something.

01:42:41.320 If you are not involved at the local level, if you are not showing up to school board meetings,

01:42:48.120 and despite what Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, said about parents showing up to school board meetings,

01:42:54.840 they're not terrorists.

01:42:56.320 They're moms and dads who love their kids, value teachers, but want education and not indoctrination in those schools.

01:43:04.980 You've got to stand up for this stuff.

01:43:06.720 Or else, there'll be more kids who come home asking you why Republicans hate polar bears.

01:43:14.700 And not knowing anything at all about the World Trade Center or September the 11th, 2001.

01:43:22.980 Check out the social media presence, if you don't mind.

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01:43:29.180 K-A-T-Z is how you spell it.

01:43:30.820 I know some places people are going, I have no idea.

01:43:34.280 Did he say Katz?

01:43:35.020 Did he say, what did he say?

01:43:36.280 Katz.

01:43:36.780 K-A-T-Z.

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01:43:42.200 In both of those cases, would you give it a follow?

01:43:44.700 And while you're online, please make sure you're looking at theblaze.com.

01:43:48.020 You're looking at glennbeck.com.

01:43:49.600 And if you want to send me an email, I'm always happy to see those.

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01:43:57.220 Jeff Katz from NewsRadio WRVA in Central Virginia.

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01:44:29.340 Jeff Katz.

01:44:30.220 Happy to be sitting in for Glenn today.

01:44:32.140 I mentioned to you yesterday that Heidi and I are having this debate about television, right?

01:44:37.860 I mean, it's cold where we are.

01:44:39.640 I'm in Virginia.

01:44:41.220 And, like, last night it was 20 degrees.

01:44:45.780 And today it's going to be, I don't know, 40 degrees, 45 degrees.

01:44:50.120 Now, this weekend's going to be 65, 70 degrees.

01:44:52.560 Fantastic.

01:44:52.960 But I don't like the cold.

01:44:55.900 I don't like the ice.

01:44:57.480 I don't like any of that stuff.

01:45:00.360 I came south from Boston figuring, well, it's pretty far.

01:45:03.940 I'm south of the Mason-Dixon line.

01:45:06.020 No, it's cold.

01:45:07.640 So what does Heidi want to do?

01:45:08.720 My wife is a, well, she's addicted to weather stuff.

01:45:13.740 When they were sort of spitballing the weather channel, it was Heidi they had in mind.

01:45:22.140 She loves it.

01:45:23.080 It's like weather porn.

01:45:24.660 I swear to you.

01:45:25.760 It's like a teenage boy who somehow got into his dad's closet and found a stack of those magazines.

01:45:31.520 That's the intensity with which my lovely bride watches the weather nonsense.

01:45:38.120 So I said, I'm not sitting here watching weather reports.

01:45:41.000 I get it.

01:45:41.920 There are people in Buffalo who are dealing with seven feet of snow, and it really, really stinks, and people have died, and it's horrible.

01:45:51.520 And I will remember them.

01:45:52.980 Make no mistake about it.

01:45:54.080 I will keep them in my prayers, but I don't want to watch nonstop weather coverage.

01:45:58.720 So what does she do?

01:46:00.360 She discovers a show on the History Channel called Alone.

01:46:06.020 Well, I had high hopes for the television program Alone because I thought, well, it's a show about being alone.

01:46:10.840 I like being alone.

01:46:12.580 I can watch it and be alone.

01:46:14.840 Oh, no, we're going to watch it together.

01:46:16.300 So right away, we're not alone when we're watching it.

01:46:19.320 And it's a bunch of crazy people who are dropped into somewhere in British Columbia, and they can bring a couple of things with them, and then they're supposed to survive out in nature for 100 days.

01:46:34.980 And if you get to that, then you get a half a million dollars.

01:46:40.220 My ears perked up at the half a million dollars.

01:46:42.620 I'll give you that.

01:46:44.400 But I thought, they're insane.

01:46:46.620 And all you see, they're hungry, they have no food, there are bears everywhere.

01:46:54.740 And I thought, well, why should I watch that?

01:46:56.580 I go to the grocery store.

01:46:57.880 It's equally as painful.

01:47:00.520 And on Peacock, woo, the Ric Flair documentary.

01:47:04.280 I had to watch, I think it was five episodes of Alone before I could be alone with the Ric Flair documentary.

01:47:11.200 And all I can say is, woo, stay in touch on social media, would you?

01:47:15.820 Over on Facebook, The Jeff Katz Show on Facebook.

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01:47:24.160 And yeah, you spell it K-A-T-Z.

01:47:26.740 And if you want to send me an email, the easiest thing to do is head over to the website, thejeffkatzshow.com.

01:47:35.920 Let me thank Lance and Dom and Sarah and especially Glenn for letting me sit in.

01:47:43.040 It is Jeff Katz in for Glenn.

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The Glenn Beck Program - December 28, 2022

NY Rep. Elect George Santos Is Jew＂ish＂｜ Guest Host： Jeff Katz ｜ 12⧸28⧸22

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