The Glenn Beck Program - 'One Outrage at a Time'？

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:07.820 Another allegation was lobbed at Kavanaugh last night.

00:00:11.140 This one comes from Deborah Ramirez, a Yale classmate of Kavanaugh, who told the New York,

00:00:17.440 the New Yorker, that Kavanaugh thrust his,

00:00:21.540 thrust his penis in her face, causing her to touch it.

00:00:30.540 She claims that both of them were highly intoxicated.

00:00:34.000 No.

00:00:35.440 All right.

00:00:36.360 First of all, the story should have never made it to print.

00:00:39.380 It is telling that the New Yorker ran it while the New York Times and Washington Post have stayed away.

00:00:45.060 Ramirez admits that she had spent six days, quote, assessing her memories before really, truly recalling what had happened.

00:00:56.120 She also admits that there are, quote, significant gaps in her memories of the evening.

00:01:00.940 Like the Ford allegation, no one can collaborate.

00:01:05.520 And Kavanaugh has flat out denied it has ever happened, as has many people that she said were there.

00:01:12.560 They have all come out now since and said, no, I have no recollection of this even happening.

00:01:19.360 It's totally out of character.

00:01:21.600 So how did this make it into a national publication?

00:01:23.880 Have the rules of journalism changed or suddenly spontaneously combust?

00:01:29.760 No.

00:01:31.080 It's just that there are no real rules of journalism anymore.

00:01:34.460 The real journalists have left.

00:01:36.980 Advocates and torchbearers have taken their places.

00:01:39.560 And in the digital world where you can assassinate someone's character in 0.7 seconds, go ahead, try it.

00:01:47.480 Google Kavanaugh, it'll take you 0.7 seconds for Google to come back with 128 million results.

00:01:55.980 That's how fast it happens now.

00:01:57.760 If someone can make a false claim on Twitter, it'll be retweeted 10,000 times, plus the correction, if it even comes from the original poster, we'll only get, what, 10 or 20 tweets, maybe?

00:02:12.320 That's what Democrats are doing to Kavanaugh now.

00:02:15.160 And they know it.

00:02:16.020 And sadly, so does Kavanaugh.

00:02:17.800 It's amazing what we're seeing in our country right now.

00:02:21.920 Is this the country that you want your kids to grow up in?

00:02:25.440 Is this fairness?

00:02:28.500 No.

00:02:29.540 This is social justice.

00:02:32.100 Social justice in the postmodern world means that it doesn't matter if Kavanaugh did it.

00:02:37.680 Somebody like Kavanaugh did do it.

00:02:40.180 It doesn't matter if it happened to these victims because it has happened or something like it has happened to other victims.

00:02:49.360 And it all balances out in the end, or so they think.

00:02:53.460 I just ask any of anybody who is so sure of themselves today on one side or the other.

00:03:03.460 If this were happening to you, would you think this was a fair process?

00:03:11.740 The left has taken this hearing and completely turned the rules upside down.

00:03:17.560 The term reasonable doubt has always meant that if it exists, you have to assume the person is innocent.

00:03:24.400 Reasonable doubt.

00:03:25.640 Well, I can't find any reason to believe these people on Twitter yesterday.

00:03:35.820 We're all absolutely positively sure Kavanaugh was guilty.

00:03:41.560 Well, I'm not absolutely positively sure he's not.

00:03:44.400 How could you possibly, based on two people, that their stories fall apart once it leaves them?

00:03:53.880 The left has now rewritten the definition.

00:03:59.080 There's no evidence, not one single corroborating witness to any of these claims.

00:04:06.340 Not one.

00:04:08.300 Now, that's enough to get you laughed out of a courtroom.

00:04:11.880 But for some reason, the, quote, resistance wants reasonable doubt now to shift toward the accuser.

00:04:18.660 Keep in mind, these are the same people, the very same people, who are supposedly for criminal justice and prison reform.

00:04:27.760 Isn't it exactly the problem?

00:04:31.400 Haven't we been in a society that will believe the white woman instead of Emmett Till?

00:04:39.900 Wasn't that the problem?

00:04:41.380 Isn't this one white woman's testimony, who claimed he touched her, he grabbed her, and he made lewd comments to her?

00:04:54.740 That's why nobody went to jail.

00:04:57.460 Because the reasonable doubt went to her.

00:05:01.080 If reasonable doubt shifts towards the accuser, can you imagine how full our prisons will be?

00:05:09.040 Can you imagine living under a government where reasonable doubt always sides towards the prosecution?

00:05:15.720 If there is no evidence, if there are no witnesses to any of these claims,

00:05:20.840 I'm sorry.

00:05:24.120 But Kavanaugh must get confirmed.

00:05:27.020 Now, if they have witnesses, and we have reasonable doubt,

00:05:34.720 well, he probably should be concerned.

00:05:40.220 But if we can get to a point to where it's clear to all of us who are honest,

00:05:46.400 then he should go away.

00:05:51.120 Senate Democrats know the game they're playing.

00:05:53.900 Their ultimate goal here?

00:05:58.340 It's the midterms, 2020.

00:06:00.680 The Supreme Court confirmation hearing is just a tool of the left,

00:06:03.980 used to influence another court.

00:06:06.720 And that is the court of public opinion.

00:06:13.320 It's Monday, September 24th.

00:06:15.780 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:06:17.500 You know, this has been coming for a long time.

00:06:22.240 It's just that we have to get off this train.

00:06:25.200 We've accepted it from each of our parties for a while.

00:06:29.380 Do you remember when,

00:06:30.580 when,

00:06:33.400 oh, who was it from Arizona?

00:06:35.100 The,

00:06:35.360 the Mormon from Arizona,

00:06:40.000 Pat,

00:06:41.200 or Nevada, Nevada.

00:06:43.660 What's his name?

00:06:45.080 Harry Reid.

00:06:45.820 Harry Reid.

00:06:46.560 When Harry Reid stands up and says,

00:06:49.000 you know, Romney,

00:06:49.720 I got a call.

00:06:51.040 Romney.

00:06:51.980 Romney didn't,

00:06:52.840 he didn't pay his taxes.

00:06:54.040 Now it's out there.

00:06:55.120 That was a lie.

00:06:56.540 He knew it was a lie,

00:06:58.380 but he knew that the press would take it and run with it,

00:07:01.280 and it would get out there,

00:07:02.920 and it would poison the well.

00:07:05.980 Our president,

00:07:06.940 Rafael Cruz,

00:07:07.980 was involved in the plot to assassinate Kennedy.

00:07:11.240 What?

00:07:11.640 It was a lie.

00:07:14.860 He knew that it was a lie,

00:07:16.480 but it got into the press and poisons the well.

00:07:20.900 Kavanaugh.

00:07:21.440 Now,

00:07:22.320 the Stormy Daniels attorney is now saying that he was part of a rape gang.

00:07:26.420 Now it's to a rape gang.

00:07:27.720 He's part of a rape gang.

00:07:30.740 It's a lie,

00:07:32.120 but it'll get out,

00:07:34.680 and it'll destroy him.

00:07:38.080 This is not the first time that this has happened,

00:07:40.560 but I wanted to go back into history and see how does this play out?

00:07:47.000 Eventually,

00:07:47.720 how does this play out?

00:07:51.200 Well,

00:07:51.720 if you go back in time,

00:07:53.580 especially if you go back to the party politics,

00:07:56.900 looking for the third president of the United States,

00:08:02.820 who is going to be,

00:08:04.280 who's going to be president,

00:08:05.660 is it going to be Adams,

00:08:06.580 or is it going to be Jefferson?

00:08:09.060 Now,

00:08:09.380 Adams had already seen what the press can do,

00:08:12.020 and what pamphleteers could do,

00:08:13.740 and so he comes up with the Sedition Act,

00:08:16.460 which is absolutely against everything that we ever said we were for in America,

00:08:21.200 when it comes to the press and freedom of speech,

00:08:25.540 but he had enough of people just lying in the press.

00:08:32.740 So there was a big turmoil,

00:08:34.200 and Jefferson thought that Adams had betrayed the Republic,

00:08:39.800 and also because he thought he was going to go to war with France,

00:08:46.540 and he was going to start a foreign war,

00:08:50.780 and he wanted nothing to do with it.

00:08:54.340 So they become enemies.

00:08:56.080 These friends become enemies,

00:08:57.400 and during the election,

00:09:01.380 the two of them start to lob charges against each other.

00:09:08.980 Jefferson,

00:09:10.580 or at least the people around Jefferson,

00:09:12.500 he never said this because he was above it,

00:09:14.520 but his campaign accused President Adams of having a quote,

00:09:19.340 a hideous hermaphroditical character,

00:09:22.020 which neither has the force or firmness of a man,

00:09:25.260 nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.

00:09:28.060 So he calls Adams a hermaphrodite.

00:09:31.880 So what happens?

00:09:34.540 Adams,

00:09:35.340 his team responds,

00:09:37.260 well,

00:09:37.440 Jefferson is mean spirited,

00:09:39.360 low lived fellow,

00:09:40.400 the son of a half-breed Indian squaw,

00:09:45.420 sired by a Virginia mulatto father.

00:09:49.220 So his mom is an Indian squaw,

00:09:51.780 and his dad is half white and half black.

00:09:55.760 It went down from,

00:09:57.340 it ended with those guys,

00:09:59.560 I think Adams made the claim

00:10:01.360 that if Jefferson was going to be president,

00:10:04.220 all of your daughters would be raped,

00:10:06.200 and there would be heads on pikes all the way down the streets.

00:10:09.800 Right?

00:10:10.480 Right.

00:10:10.820 Yep.

00:10:11.600 That's where the story usually ends,

00:10:13.260 right?

00:10:15.020 Even Martha Washington got involved in this.

00:10:18.760 She told a clergyman of Jefferson

00:10:20.880 that Jefferson was one of the most detestable of all mankind.

00:10:25.500 So this is going back and forth.

00:10:30.220 And that's where we think the story ends.

00:10:33.900 But in trying to find out,

00:10:36.720 how does this end?

00:10:40.620 How have we corrected this course before?

00:10:45.600 Let me tell you a story you probably haven't heard.

00:10:49.160 There was a pamphleteer,

00:10:50.800 his name was James Callender.

00:10:52.540 James Callender was a guy,

00:10:55.480 he was Scottish and he came in

00:10:57.520 and he was on the side of Jefferson

00:11:00.300 and he was a pamphleteer

00:11:02.020 and he would pretty much say

00:11:03.680 pretty much anything

00:11:05.520 like Adams is a hermaphrodite.

00:11:09.920 And he would print these things

00:11:11.700 and pass them out.

00:11:14.040 Jefferson, of course,

00:11:15.020 was far too good of a fellow

00:11:17.720 to be involved in anything like that.

00:11:20.200 He wouldn't,

00:11:20.960 I don't know James Callender,

00:11:22.240 oh, that's outrageous

00:11:23.900 that you would say that.

00:11:28.520 The thought was at the time

00:11:30.700 that Jefferson had hired Callender

00:11:33.100 to say these things,

00:11:34.280 but of course,

00:11:35.140 absolutely not.

00:11:38.040 1801,

00:11:39.300 the Sedition Act,

00:11:42.220 Callender's thrown in jail.

00:11:44.320 He gets the stiffest penalty

00:11:45.940 of any of the players

00:11:47.800 of the press under John Adams.

00:11:50.260 he's fined $200

00:11:51.980 and he has to go to jail

00:11:53.860 for six months.

00:11:56.140 So he goes

00:11:56.960 and he serves his jail time.

00:11:58.360 He pays his $200.

00:11:59.820 And when Jefferson

00:12:00.880 becomes president,

00:12:02.580 he pardons Callender.

00:12:05.160 Well, Callender wants

00:12:06.160 to see him right away

00:12:07.300 because what about my $200?

00:12:09.060 And you,

00:12:11.100 you, you know,

00:12:11.660 I think you might owe me

00:12:12.680 some money too.

00:12:13.600 I mean,

00:12:14.000 I haven't been able to work.

00:12:15.340 What about the $200

00:12:16.600 and, you know,

00:12:17.720 some of,

00:12:18.300 so what did he say

00:12:18.960 about combat pay?

00:12:22.460 Jefferson pretends

00:12:23.420 he doesn't know him.

00:12:25.460 Jefferson says,

00:12:26.560 I,

00:12:26.840 look,

00:12:27.020 I pardon the guy.

00:12:28.000 That's,

00:12:28.340 that's all he gets.

00:12:29.420 So then what happens?

00:12:37.880 Well,

00:12:38.320 he says,

00:12:39.120 look,

00:12:40.900 Jefferson paid me

00:12:42.600 to tell these stories.

00:12:45.160 He paid me.

00:12:47.960 Jefferson says,

00:12:48.740 I didn't pay him.

00:12:49.700 He said,

00:12:50.120 she said,

00:12:50.940 I didn't pay him.

00:12:52.580 Yes,

00:12:52.720 he did.

00:12:53.540 No,

00:12:53.700 I didn't.

00:12:54.040 Yes,

00:12:54.200 you did.

00:12:54.560 No,

00:12:54.700 I didn't.

00:12:54.980 Yes,

00:12:55.160 I did.

00:12:57.240 Unfortunately for Jefferson,

00:12:58.420 calendar had letters

00:13:01.020 from Jefferson,

00:13:02.520 including payments

00:13:04.480 for the things

00:13:05.840 he wanted him to say.

00:13:07.820 So all of a sudden,

00:13:09.220 now Jefferson is exposed

00:13:10.800 as this liar.

00:13:12.700 He releases the letter.

00:13:14.820 So what happens then?

00:13:17.320 Well,

00:13:17.860 the people who support Jefferson,

00:13:19.560 they won't have any of it.

00:13:21.980 And so they decide

00:13:23.560 that they're going to start

00:13:24.520 a new rumor.

00:13:25.220 And so the supporters

00:13:27.660 of Jefferson

00:13:28.660 who are just trying

00:13:29.900 to protect the president,

00:13:30.980 the supporters

00:13:32.620 start circulating

00:13:33.500 the rumor

00:13:34.000 that that calendar

00:13:35.340 actually is such a bad guy.

00:13:36.880 He's such bad character.

00:13:38.500 You can't believe

00:13:39.360 a thing he says.

00:13:40.200 How do we even know

00:13:40.920 those letters are true?

00:13:42.700 Because calendar

00:13:43.580 is the kind of guy

00:13:44.400 who abandoned his wife

00:13:45.860 while she was dying

00:13:47.380 of venereal disease.

00:13:51.620 Calendar

00:13:52.140 is outraged.

00:13:53.220 How dare you say that?

00:13:56.380 Well,

00:13:56.620 is your wife alive?

00:13:58.120 No.

00:13:58.660 Didn't she die?

00:14:00.020 Yes.

00:14:00.480 Didn't she die

00:14:01.120 of some horrible disease?

00:14:02.540 Yes.

00:14:03.100 But not venereal disease.

00:14:05.560 And I was with her

00:14:06.560 every step of the way

00:14:08.160 unless I had to work.

00:14:11.040 She died of typhus.

00:14:13.360 Not venereal disease.

00:14:15.580 But because the supporters

00:14:16.880 of Jefferson

00:14:17.600 were so intent

00:14:19.340 on making sure

00:14:21.200 they protected

00:14:22.180 their political guy,

00:14:24.840 Calendar does something else.

00:14:29.280 Calendar

00:14:29.920 releases a rumor

00:14:32.120 that Thomas Jefferson

00:14:36.080 had been making babies

00:14:39.200 with Sally Hemings.

00:14:40.320 Now,

00:14:43.500 when that

00:14:44.060 failed,

00:14:46.260 when that

00:14:46.940 failed

00:14:47.620 to catch on

00:14:48.660 at the time,

00:14:49.780 he immediately

00:14:50.880 switched the story

00:14:52.420 and said,

00:14:53.460 oh,

00:14:54.040 he's been making babies,

00:14:55.560 he's been making passes,

00:14:56.880 he's been having an affair

00:14:58.020 with his neighbor's wife.

00:15:03.580 So,

00:15:04.240 how does this end?

00:15:05.060 this ends in

00:15:10.060 history being changed.

00:15:13.060 This ends in

00:15:14.400 some lies

00:15:15.580 coming back

00:15:17.240 to haunt

00:15:18.480 sometimes up to

00:15:20.740 a century or two later

00:15:22.840 to continue

00:15:25.420 to destroy

00:15:26.740 and smear.

00:15:29.100 Now people will say,

00:15:30.620 well,

00:15:30.980 the DNA evidence,

00:15:32.420 no,

00:15:32.660 no,

00:15:33.700 no.

00:15:34.100 The DNA evidence

00:15:36.040 did not prove that.

00:15:38.620 The DNA evidence

00:15:39.980 proved that it was

00:15:41.420 someone in the

00:15:42.360 Jefferson family.

00:15:44.400 But where did

00:15:45.380 Kavanaugh

00:15:45.900 get that rumor?

00:15:47.800 He didn't make it up.

00:15:50.000 That rumor

00:15:50.920 was published

00:15:51.800 in a newspaper,

00:15:53.620 in an op-ed.

00:15:55.060 But it wasn't

00:15:56.160 saying that

00:15:56.700 Jefferson did it.

00:15:58.040 It was

00:15:58.580 actually a smear

00:16:00.480 to get

00:16:01.500 people to not

00:16:02.760 vote for

00:16:03.700 Thomas Jefferson.

00:16:06.380 But the

00:16:07.100 smear

00:16:07.500 originally

00:16:08.240 was something

00:16:10.160 that apparently

00:16:10.800 people knew

00:16:11.680 in the area.

00:16:13.880 That Thomas

00:16:14.340 Jefferson's

00:16:15.060 brother

00:16:15.560 was a

00:16:16.680 sot.

00:16:17.240 Thomas Jefferson's

00:16:18.180 brother was not

00:16:18.960 a good guy.

00:16:20.020 And Thomas

00:16:20.500 Jefferson's

00:16:21.300 brother

00:16:21.740 was using

00:16:23.500 the slaves

00:16:24.520 as breeders.

00:16:26.120 The original

00:16:29.080 rumor

00:16:29.580 was not

00:16:30.140 about Thomas

00:16:30.580 Jefferson.

00:16:31.000 It was about

00:16:32.060 his brother.

00:16:34.200 But perhaps

00:16:35.160 that wasn't

00:16:35.600 good enough

00:16:36.160 for

00:16:36.960 Callender.

00:16:38.440 He needed

00:16:39.360 to build

00:16:39.860 on that.

00:16:41.760 And that

00:16:42.540 smear

00:16:42.900 continues

00:16:43.640 today.

00:16:45.040 So before

00:16:45.920 we all

00:16:46.700 jump to

00:16:47.440 our team

00:16:48.180 jerseys,

00:16:49.680 before we

00:16:50.280 all say,

00:16:50.720 I am

00:16:51.080 absolutely

00:16:51.580 positive,

00:16:53.180 let's just

00:16:54.080 remember that

00:16:55.300 how we

00:16:55.800 behave and

00:16:57.660 what we

00:16:58.040 say and

00:16:58.500 what we

00:16:58.880 do can

00:17:01.200 last

00:17:01.600 centuries

00:17:02.540 and have

00:17:04.320 ramifications

00:17:04.980 that we

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00:18:43.900 www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org.

00:18:49.160 Another story

00:18:51.100 from history,

00:18:52.240 a cautionary tale

00:18:53.360 coming up in

00:18:54.060 just a second

00:18:54.760 with some,

00:18:55.220 I think,

00:18:55.820 some kind of

00:18:56.340 bone-chilling

00:18:57.100 audio.

00:18:58.100 As we

00:18:59.080 continue with

00:18:59.640 the Kavanaugh

00:19:00.520 story,

00:19:01.360 did you read

00:19:01.820 the story

00:19:02.260 from the

00:19:02.720 New Yorker?

00:19:03.560 Yes.

00:19:04.320 On the new

00:19:05.320 allegation?

00:19:06.500 The new

00:19:06.860 allegation came

00:19:07.500 out last night.

00:19:08.340 Seems pretty

00:19:09.520 bogus to me.

00:19:11.200 You can't get

00:19:12.100 anybody to

00:19:12.720 corroborate any

00:19:13.640 of these stories.

00:19:14.740 In fact,

00:19:15.240 you have the

00:19:15.580 opposite.

00:19:16.220 Yeah.

00:19:16.560 You've got him

00:19:17.080 saying,

00:19:17.560 no,

00:19:17.940 I don't remember

00:19:18.660 anything about

00:19:19.200 that.

00:19:19.500 Right.

00:19:19.700 She names

00:19:20.280 people,

00:19:21.440 and male and

00:19:22.060 female,

00:19:22.520 friends of hers,

00:19:23.740 are saying,

00:19:25.040 I don't remember

00:19:25.820 that.

00:19:26.160 And that's

00:19:26.440 completely out of

00:19:27.260 character for

00:19:27.780 Brett Kavanaugh,

00:19:28.380 many of them

00:19:28.820 have said.

00:19:29.320 Yes.

00:19:30.000 But her

00:19:30.400 friends,

00:19:31.060 though,

00:19:31.240 also are

00:19:31.740 saying,

00:19:32.140 I don't

00:19:32.640 even remember

00:19:33.180 this.

00:19:33.680 I have no

00:19:34.480 recollection of

00:19:35.260 this.

00:19:35.720 And those

00:19:36.060 are the

00:19:36.240 people that

00:19:36.720 the second

00:19:37.580 accuser is

00:19:38.760 naming.

00:19:39.100 We know

00:19:39.300 the first

00:19:39.720 accuser had

00:19:40.360 the same

00:19:40.760 problem.

00:19:41.900 And the

00:19:42.540 second accuser

00:19:43.300 in the

00:19:43.760 story says,

00:19:44.780 well,

00:19:44.980 it took

00:19:45.640 me a few

00:19:46.200 days before

00:19:47.900 I was

00:19:48.260 comfortable

00:19:48.660 saying that

00:19:49.220 it was

00:19:49.560 Brett.

00:19:50.020 My memory

00:19:50.740 was so

00:19:51.200 foggy.

00:19:51.860 But after

00:19:52.200 spending six

00:19:53.000 days with

00:19:53.580 my attorneys.

00:19:54.840 Now she's

00:19:55.260 totally clear

00:19:56.040 that.

00:19:56.840 How'd that

00:19:57.460 happen?

00:19:57.780 a cautionary

00:19:59.360 tale when

00:20:00.460 we come

00:20:00.780 back.

00:20:05.960 All right.

00:20:08.060 So now

00:20:08.840 the New

00:20:09.120 Yorker has

00:20:10.500 come out

00:20:10.940 with a

00:20:11.460 news story

00:20:12.580 on Kavanaugh.

00:20:13.800 And it's

00:20:14.920 important that

00:20:15.580 you actually

00:20:16.160 read the

00:20:16.920 story.

00:20:18.400 This is

00:20:19.160 from Rowan

00:20:19.740 Farrow,

00:20:20.220 so he's

00:20:20.700 got credibility

00:20:21.420 in this.

00:20:22.740 And I,

00:20:23.800 for one,

00:20:24.980 am not here

00:20:25.520 to tell you

00:20:25.980 that Kavanaugh

00:20:26.600 is innocent

00:20:27.420 because I

00:20:27.880 don't know

00:20:28.200 him.

00:20:29.200 I'm not

00:20:29.840 here to

00:20:30.960 tell you

00:20:31.440 that I

00:20:32.000 believe the

00:20:33.060 victims or

00:20:34.320 throw the

00:20:34.840 victims under

00:20:35.440 the bus

00:20:35.860 because I

00:20:36.460 don't know

00:20:36.840 them.

00:20:37.880 All I can

00:20:38.660 do is

00:20:39.500 look at

00:20:39.900 the facts.

00:20:41.340 So let's

00:20:42.020 look at

00:20:42.340 the facts.

00:20:43.720 Here's the

00:20:44.300 latest

00:20:44.700 allegation.

00:20:45.780 Let me

00:20:45.960 just give

00:20:46.260 you some

00:20:46.480 highlights of

00:20:47.060 this.

00:20:47.300 It's from

00:20:47.580 the New

00:20:47.820 Yorker.

00:20:48.660 Again,

00:20:49.440 don't take

00:20:49.800 my word

00:20:50.120 for any

00:20:50.460 of this.

00:20:51.040 Read it

00:20:51.360 yourself.

00:20:51.840 The claim

00:20:52.900 dates to

00:20:53.420 83-84

00:20:54.280 academic

00:20:54.780 school year

00:20:55.420 when Kavanaugh

00:20:56.040 was a

00:20:56.360 freshman at

00:20:56.800 Yale.

00:20:57.760 The offices

00:20:58.220 of at least

00:20:58.780 four Democratic

00:20:59.640 senators have

00:21:00.340 received information

00:21:01.240 about the

00:21:01.700 allegation,

00:21:02.820 and at least

00:21:03.440 two have

00:21:03.880 begun

00:21:04.160 investigating

00:21:04.840 it.

00:21:05.900 Republican

00:21:06.460 staffers also

00:21:07.620 learned of the

00:21:08.040 allegation last

00:21:08.860 week in

00:21:09.340 conversations with

00:21:10.160 the New

00:21:10.400 Yorker,

00:21:10.820 and they

00:21:11.020 expressed

00:21:11.320 concern about

00:21:11.940 its potential

00:21:12.480 impact on

00:21:13.160 Kavanaugh's

00:21:13.580 nomination.

00:21:15.020 The

00:21:15.200 Democrat

00:21:15.600 Senate

00:21:15.920 offices

00:21:16.480 reviewing

00:21:17.040 the

00:21:17.260 allegations

00:21:17.680 believe that

00:21:18.400 they merit

00:21:18.840 further

00:21:19.180 investigation.

00:21:20.540 Quote,

00:21:20.740 this is

00:21:21.220 another

00:21:21.520 serious,

00:21:22.360 credible,

00:21:22.860 and disturbing

00:21:23.420 allegation

00:21:24.060 against

00:21:24.360 Brett

00:21:24.620 Kavanaugh.

00:21:25.580 It should

00:21:26.040 be fully

00:21:26.460 investigated.

00:21:28.100 Okay,

00:21:29.140 so I

00:21:29.460 want to,

00:21:29.800 I want to,

00:21:30.680 this is

00:21:31.140 another

00:21:31.400 serious,

00:21:33.860 credible,

00:21:35.240 and disturbing

00:21:35.920 allegation.

00:21:38.160 I don't know

00:21:39.020 if this is

00:21:39.520 serious.

00:21:41.340 Maybe as an

00:21:42.320 allegation goes,

00:21:43.180 I guess it is

00:21:43.680 serious.

00:21:44.000 I don't know

00:21:44.200 if it can be

00:21:44.580 taken seriously.

00:21:46.460 But it is,

00:21:47.540 it is not

00:21:48.420 credible.

00:21:48.900 But it is

00:21:50.800 disturbing.

00:21:52.040 The woman at

00:21:53.040 the center of

00:21:53.460 the story is

00:21:54.120 Deborah Ramirez.

00:21:55.740 She's 53.

00:21:57.060 She attended

00:21:57.500 Yale with

00:21:58.040 Kavanaugh,

00:21:58.580 where she

00:21:59.220 studied sociology

00:22:00.240 and psychology.

00:22:02.200 Later,

00:22:02.560 she spent

00:22:02.960 years working

00:22:03.720 for an

00:22:04.040 organization

00:22:04.620 that supports

00:22:05.320 victims of

00:22:06.000 domestic

00:22:06.400 violence.

00:22:07.500 The New

00:22:08.060 Yorker

00:22:08.460 contacted

00:22:09.020 Ramirez

00:22:09.480 after learning

00:22:10.320 of her

00:22:10.620 possible

00:22:11.040 involvement

00:22:11.560 in an

00:22:11.960 incident

00:22:13.140 involving

00:22:13.960 Kavanaugh.

00:22:14.980 The

00:22:15.440 allegation

00:22:15.940 was conveyed

00:22:16.600 to Democratic

00:22:17.440 senators by

00:22:18.340 a civil

00:22:18.780 rights

00:22:19.180 lawyer.

00:22:20.400 For Ramirez,

00:22:21.840 the sudden

00:22:22.480 attention has

00:22:23.420 been unwelcome

00:22:24.460 and prompted

00:22:25.660 difficult choices.

00:22:27.560 She was at

00:22:28.520 first hesitant

00:22:29.420 to speak

00:22:30.060 publicly,

00:22:31.760 partly because

00:22:33.000 her memories

00:22:33.920 contained gaps

00:22:35.300 because she

00:22:36.680 had been

00:22:37.060 drinking at

00:22:37.760 the time

00:22:38.260 of the

00:22:38.660 alleged

00:22:39.020 incident.

00:22:40.400 In her

00:22:41.340 initial

00:22:41.720 conversations

00:22:42.460 with the

00:22:42.920 New Yorker,

00:22:43.920 she was

00:22:44.540 reluctant to

00:22:45.400 characterize

00:22:46.160 Kavanaugh's

00:22:46.940 role in

00:22:47.800 the alleged

00:22:48.320 incident

00:22:48.880 with certainty.

00:22:51.340 However,

00:22:52.600 after six

00:22:54.000 days of

00:22:54.720 carefully

00:22:55.120 assessing her

00:22:55.860 memories and

00:22:56.540 consulting with

00:22:57.340 her attorney,

00:22:59.160 she now felt

00:23:00.060 confident enough

00:23:01.020 of her

00:23:01.540 recollections to

00:23:02.440 say that she

00:23:02.940 remembers Kavanaugh

00:23:04.220 had exposed

00:23:05.340 himself at a

00:23:06.360 drunken dormitory

00:23:07.300 party and

00:23:08.480 thrust his parts

00:23:09.500 into her face

00:23:10.620 and caused her

00:23:11.660 to touch it

00:23:12.360 without consent

00:23:13.540 as she pushed

00:23:14.280 him away.

00:23:15.480 So for the

00:23:15.920 first 35

00:23:16.720 years after

00:23:17.820 this incident,

00:23:18.480 she wasn't

00:23:19.280 certain that

00:23:20.660 it was

00:23:21.140 Brett Kavanaugh,

00:23:22.020 but after six

00:23:22.740 days with her

00:23:23.520 attorneys,

00:23:24.100 now she is.

00:23:26.500 Kavanaugh has

00:23:27.080 already responded,

00:23:27.840 said this did

00:23:28.400 not happen.

00:23:29.360 People who knew

00:23:30.000 me at the

00:23:31.380 time know that

00:23:32.180 this didn't

00:23:32.700 happen.

00:23:33.140 I've said so.

00:23:33.900 This is a

00:23:34.380 smear,

00:23:34.860 plain and

00:23:35.280 simple.

00:23:37.080 Okay,

00:23:37.720 so here's

00:23:38.240 what she says.

00:23:39.860 They were both

00:23:40.460 freshmen at

00:23:41.440 Yale.

00:23:42.340 She was

00:23:42.740 invited by a

00:23:43.440 friend on the

00:23:44.080 women's soccer

00:23:44.660 team to a

00:23:45.360 dorm room

00:23:46.140 party.

00:23:47.220 She recalled

00:23:47.660 the party

00:23:48.120 that it took

00:23:48.700 place in a

00:23:49.540 suite at

00:23:50.260 Lawrence Hall

00:23:51.040 in part of

00:23:51.720 Yale, known

00:23:53.340 as Old

00:23:53.700 Campus, and

00:23:54.880 that a small

00:23:55.380 group of

00:23:55.840 students decided

00:23:56.580 to play a

00:23:57.160 drinking game

00:23:57.800 together.

00:23:58.860 We were

00:23:59.140 sitting in a

00:23:59.720 circle.

00:24:00.660 People would

00:24:01.160 pick who

00:24:02.820 drank.

00:24:03.960 Ramirez was

00:24:04.840 the one that

00:24:05.260 was picked

00:24:05.720 repeatedly.

00:24:07.080 She said,

00:24:07.700 I quickly

00:24:08.320 became inebriated.

00:24:10.340 At one point,

00:24:11.900 a male student

00:24:13.020 pointed a gag

00:24:14.380 plastic penis

00:24:15.380 at her

00:24:15.820 direction.

00:24:17.140 Later, she

00:24:17.640 said she was

00:24:18.580 on the

00:24:19.060 floor, foggy

00:24:20.900 and slurring

00:24:22.280 her words,

00:24:23.940 as that male

00:24:24.980 student and

00:24:25.740 another stood

00:24:26.640 nearby.

00:24:28.320 Ramirez now

00:24:29.260 has identified the

00:24:30.180 two male

00:24:30.660 onlookers, but

00:24:31.580 at her request,

00:24:32.600 the New Yorker

00:24:33.140 is not naming

00:24:33.860 them.

00:24:35.300 Well, why?

00:24:37.420 Seriously,

00:24:38.100 why?

00:24:38.420 If this is

00:24:40.200 about justice,

00:24:41.040 that this

00:24:41.540 shouldn't be

00:24:41.920 done to a

00:24:42.520 woman, why

00:24:43.480 not name all

00:24:44.800 of the men

00:24:45.340 who were doing

00:24:45.980 this to her?

00:24:47.860 That is a

00:24:49.000 serious question

00:24:50.380 that I think

00:24:51.620 people on the

00:24:52.400 left need to

00:24:53.160 answer.

00:24:54.000 If this isn't

00:24:55.220 just a campaign

00:24:56.080 against him,

00:24:57.420 and you find

00:24:58.380 her credible

00:24:59.100 enough, why

00:25:00.820 wouldn't you

00:25:01.460 out the other

00:25:02.280 two men that

00:25:03.240 were involved

00:25:03.780 in this?

00:25:04.300 A third

00:25:06.200 male student

00:25:06.840 then exposed

00:25:07.780 himself to

00:25:08.740 her.

00:25:09.940 I remember

00:25:10.820 a penis being

00:25:11.600 in front of

00:25:11.940 my face.

00:25:13.120 I knew that's

00:25:14.200 not what I

00:25:14.720 wanted, even

00:25:15.480 in that state

00:25:16.180 of mind.

00:25:17.520 That's not a

00:25:18.480 real penis,

00:25:19.280 some of the

00:25:19.840 other students

00:25:20.400 said, laughing

00:25:21.160 at her confusion

00:25:22.060 and taunting

00:25:22.680 her, one

00:25:23.540 encouraging her

00:25:24.300 to kiss it.

00:25:25.620 She said that

00:25:26.240 she pushed

00:25:26.780 the person

00:25:27.260 away, touching

00:25:28.360 it in the

00:25:28.820 process.

00:25:29.940 She was raised

00:25:30.700 as a devout

00:25:31.320 Catholic in

00:25:32.060 Connecticut, and

00:25:32.820 she said she

00:25:33.380 was shaken.

00:25:34.300 I wasn't

00:25:34.960 going to

00:25:35.300 touch one

00:25:35.860 of those

00:25:36.200 until I

00:25:36.600 was married.

00:25:37.700 I was

00:25:38.060 embarrassed and

00:25:38.660 ashamed and

00:25:39.260 humiliated.

00:25:40.580 She remembers

00:25:41.300 Kavanaugh now

00:25:42.400 standing to her

00:25:43.440 right and

00:25:44.060 laughing and

00:25:44.740 pulling up his

00:25:45.360 pants.

00:25:46.500 Brett was

00:25:47.120 laughing, she

00:25:47.780 said.

00:25:48.520 I can still

00:25:49.400 see his face

00:25:50.600 and his hips

00:25:51.480 coming forward

00:25:52.380 like when you

00:25:53.260 pull up your

00:25:53.800 pants.

00:25:54.300 Now, wait a

00:25:54.720 minute.

00:25:56.580 She is hazy.

00:25:58.080 She's groggy.

00:25:59.320 She doesn't

00:25:59.920 remember it.

00:26:01.100 Six days ago,

00:26:02.620 she wasn't

00:26:03.480 willing to

00:26:04.040 say that it

00:26:04.640 was Brett

00:26:05.060 Kavanaugh.

00:26:05.820 Now, she

00:26:06.580 says, I

00:26:07.460 remember his

00:26:08.620 face.

00:26:10.480 Well, did

00:26:11.240 you not

00:26:11.680 remember his

00:26:12.400 face seven

00:26:13.160 days ago?

00:26:15.260 Sincerely, another

00:26:16.300 honest question.

00:26:17.860 How come you

00:26:18.680 can remember it

00:26:19.480 clearly now, but

00:26:20.780 a week ago, you

00:26:21.980 couldn't?

00:26:23.700 She then said

00:26:24.560 somebody yelled

00:26:25.320 down the hall.

00:26:26.940 Brett Kavanaugh

00:26:27.880 just put his

00:26:29.420 penis in

00:26:29.920 Debbie's face,

00:26:30.820 she said.

00:26:31.800 It was his

00:26:32.680 full name.

00:26:34.260 I don't

00:26:35.340 think it

00:26:36.380 was just

00:26:36.960 Brett, and

00:26:38.200 I remember

00:26:38.820 hearing it

00:26:39.500 and being

00:26:39.900 mortified that

00:26:40.980 this was out

00:26:41.680 there.

00:26:43.160 So, did

00:26:44.540 he say both

00:26:45.420 names?

00:26:48.220 You say you

00:26:49.220 don't think

00:26:50.120 it was just

00:26:51.560 Brett.

00:26:52.260 You also say

00:26:53.360 you know it

00:26:54.160 was the first

00:26:54.740 two names,

00:26:55.320 yet you

00:26:56.040 also said

00:26:56.640 seven days

00:26:57.380 ago you

00:26:57.800 don't know

00:26:58.300 for sure

00:26:58.820 who did

00:26:59.400 it, but

00:27:00.080 now you

00:27:00.580 recall clearly

00:27:01.520 his face

00:27:02.280 and not

00:27:03.860 just the

00:27:04.420 first name,

00:27:05.440 but first

00:27:06.020 and last

00:27:07.000 name being

00:27:07.740 shouted.

00:27:09.220 She

00:27:09.780 acknowledged

00:27:10.320 that there

00:27:10.660 are significant

00:27:11.340 gaps in her

00:27:12.000 memories of

00:27:12.600 the evening.

00:27:13.740 If she ever

00:27:14.120 presents her

00:27:14.700 story to the

00:27:15.300 FBI or members

00:27:16.020 of the Senate,

00:27:16.480 she will

00:27:16.740 inevitably be

00:27:17.660 pressed on

00:27:18.180 her motivation

00:27:18.920 for coming

00:27:19.500 forward and

00:27:21.100 question about

00:27:21.600 her memory

00:27:22.040 giving her

00:27:22.560 drinking at

00:27:23.120 the party.

00:27:24.520 And yet,

00:27:24.820 after several

00:27:25.540 days of

00:27:26.120 considering

00:27:26.540 the matter

00:27:26.940 carefully,

00:27:28.500 she said,

00:27:29.040 I'm confident

00:27:29.780 about the

00:27:30.400 pants coming

00:27:31.120 up.

00:27:31.500 I'm confident

00:27:32.200 that it

00:27:32.620 was Brett.

00:27:34.380 She said,

00:27:35.400 that's what

00:27:35.920 stayed with

00:27:36.420 her most

00:27:36.800 forcefully is

00:27:37.780 the memory

00:27:38.220 of the

00:27:38.580 laughter

00:27:38.940 her expense

00:27:39.760 from Kavanaugh

00:27:40.640 and the

00:27:40.920 other students.

00:27:41.740 It was kind

00:27:42.660 of a joke,

00:27:43.340 but it was

00:27:44.140 clear to me

00:27:44.980 it wasn't

00:27:45.680 a joke.

00:27:47.180 Now,

00:27:48.300 the New

00:27:48.680 Yorker,

00:27:49.260 now listen

00:27:49.600 to this,

00:27:49.960 this is

00:27:50.260 journalism

00:27:50.640 today.

00:27:51.800 The New

00:27:52.160 Yorker has

00:27:52.860 not confirmed

00:27:54.160 with any

00:27:54.980 other

00:27:55.300 eyewitness

00:27:55.920 that Kavanaugh

00:27:56.760 was even

00:27:57.260 present at

00:27:58.120 the party.

00:27:59.060 In fact,

00:27:59.260 the opposite.

00:27:59.960 The magazine

00:28:00.580 contacted

00:28:01.320 several dozen

00:28:02.540 classmates of

00:28:03.800 Ramirez and

00:28:04.860 Kavanaugh

00:28:05.600 regarding the

00:28:06.560 incident.

00:28:07.380 Many did

00:28:08.240 not respond

00:28:09.020 to interview

00:28:09.540 requests.

00:28:10.320 Others

00:28:10.540 declined to

00:28:11.220 comment or

00:28:11.780 said they

00:28:12.340 didn't attend

00:28:13.300 or remember

00:28:13.900 a party.

00:28:15.220 A classmate

00:28:15.900 of Ramirez

00:28:16.400 who declined

00:28:17.300 to be identified

00:28:18.100 because of the

00:28:18.880 partisan battle

00:28:19.580 over Kavanaugh's

00:28:20.540 nomination,

00:28:20.980 said that

00:28:21.920 another

00:28:22.260 student told

00:28:23.200 him about

00:28:24.480 the incident

00:28:25.100 either on

00:28:25.980 the night

00:28:26.400 of the party

00:28:26.960 or in the

00:28:27.560 next day

00:28:28.060 or two.

00:28:29.060 The classmate

00:28:29.640 said that he

00:28:30.420 is 100%

00:28:31.580 sure that he

00:28:32.820 was told at

00:28:33.400 the time that

00:28:33.980 Kavanaugh was

00:28:34.640 the student

00:28:35.000 who exposed

00:28:35.540 himself.

00:28:36.700 He independently

00:28:37.800 recalled many

00:28:39.100 of the same

00:28:39.540 details offered

00:28:40.780 by Ramirez,

00:28:41.780 including that a

00:28:42.500 male student

00:28:43.000 had encouraged

00:28:43.580 Kavanaugh as

00:28:44.340 he exposed

00:28:44.820 himself.

00:28:45.880 The classmate,

00:28:46.760 like Ramirez,

00:28:47.760 recalled the

00:28:48.200 party took place

00:28:48.840 in a common

00:28:49.280 room in the

00:28:49.700 first floor

00:28:50.220 entry B

00:28:50.860 of Lawrence

00:28:51.300 Hall.

00:28:52.320 I've known

00:28:52.920 this all along.

00:28:54.080 It's been on

00:28:54.440 my mind all

00:28:55.000 these years

00:28:55.520 when his name

00:28:56.060 come up.

00:28:56.680 It was a

00:28:57.160 big deal.

00:28:58.500 Another

00:28:58.760 classmate,

00:28:59.740 an emergency

00:29:00.260 room doctor

00:29:00.960 in California,

00:29:01.920 recalled overhearing

00:29:02.800 soon after the

00:29:03.420 party a female

00:29:04.120 student tearfully

00:29:04.900 recounting another

00:29:05.580 student incident

00:29:06.220 at the party

00:29:07.260 involving a gag

00:29:08.660 with a fake

00:29:09.180 penis.

00:29:11.600 You then have

00:29:12.620 the ones that

00:29:13.160 she actually

00:29:13.960 named

00:29:16.020 without naming

00:29:18.160 one of the

00:29:19.660 male classmates.

00:29:20.520 I don't think

00:29:20.920 Brent would

00:29:21.320 flash himself

00:29:21.960 to Debbie

00:29:22.400 or anyone

00:29:22.860 for that

00:29:23.300 matter.

00:29:23.700 I have no

00:29:24.340 idea,

00:29:25.080 zero recollection

00:29:25.940 of it.

00:29:26.840 In a statement

00:29:27.340 of the two

00:29:27.820 male classmates

00:29:28.540 who were

00:29:29.440 involved in

00:29:29.920 the incident,

00:29:30.480 she alleged

00:29:31.300 the wife

00:29:32.400 of a third

00:29:33.040 male student

00:29:33.720 she said

00:29:34.240 was involved

00:29:34.940 and three

00:29:35.880 other classmates.

00:29:37.020 Now these

00:29:37.420 were the

00:29:37.640 people who

00:29:38.620 were there

00:29:39.380 in the

00:29:40.160 circle.

00:29:41.780 They all

00:29:42.500 disputed

00:29:43.160 Ramirez's

00:29:43.820 count of the

00:29:44.380 events.

00:29:45.200 We were the

00:29:45.480 people closest

00:29:46.100 to Brett

00:29:46.520 during the

00:29:46.960 first year

00:29:47.460 at Yale.

00:29:48.420 He was a

00:29:48.760 roommate of

00:29:49.140 some of

00:29:49.460 us.

00:29:49.660 We spent

00:29:49.860 a great

00:29:50.100 deal of

00:29:50.420 time with

00:29:50.740 him,

00:29:50.920 including

00:29:51.140 the dorm

00:29:51.600 where this

00:29:52.000 incident

00:29:52.260 allegedly

00:29:52.600 took place.

00:29:53.700 Some of

00:29:54.000 us were

00:29:54.240 also friends

00:29:54.880 with Debbie

00:29:55.340 Ramirez

00:29:55.800 during and

00:29:56.580 after the

00:29:57.160 time at

00:29:57.560 Yale.

00:29:58.320 We can

00:29:58.580 say with

00:29:58.840 confidence

00:29:59.260 that if

00:29:59.740 that incident

00:30:00.320 Debbie

00:30:00.640 alleges

00:30:01.100 ever occurred,

00:30:02.000 we would

00:30:02.260 have seen

00:30:02.640 or heard

00:30:03.100 about it,

00:30:03.640 and we

00:30:03.920 did not.

00:30:05.000 The behavior

00:30:05.600 she describes

00:30:06.300 would be

00:30:06.620 completely out

00:30:07.500 of character

00:30:07.900 for Brett.

00:30:09.180 In addition,

00:30:10.300 some of

00:30:10.760 us knew

00:30:11.180 Debbie long

00:30:11.880 after Yale,

00:30:12.920 and she

00:30:13.140 hadn't

00:30:14.460 described this

00:30:15.020 incident until

00:30:15.640 Brett's

00:30:16.040 Supreme Court

00:30:16.500 nomination was

00:30:17.160 pending.

00:30:18.700 Editors from

00:30:19.160 the New York

00:30:19.480 contacted some

00:30:20.660 of us because

00:30:21.260 we are the

00:30:21.760 people who

00:30:22.140 would know

00:30:22.340 the truth,

00:30:22.860 and we

00:30:23.080 told them

00:30:23.440 we never

00:30:24.000 heard or

00:30:24.760 saw this

00:30:25.420 ever before.

00:30:27.320 Another

00:30:27.660 former friend

00:30:28.620 said,

00:30:29.440 a woman,

00:30:30.360 I'm best

00:30:31.800 friends with

00:30:32.360 this woman.

00:30:32.980 We're best

00:30:33.640 friends.

00:30:34.120 We shared

00:30:34.420 intimate

00:30:34.680 details of

00:30:35.640 our life.

00:30:36.420 I was never

00:30:36.820 told this

00:30:37.260 story by

00:30:38.040 her or by

00:30:38.600 anyone else.

00:30:39.320 It never

00:30:39.720 came up.

00:30:40.260 I didn't

00:30:40.660 see it.

00:30:41.120 I've never

00:30:41.560 heard of it

00:30:42.000 happening.

00:30:43.120 She was part

00:30:43.620 of the larger

00:30:44.160 social circle,

00:30:45.300 blah,

00:30:45.540 blah,

00:30:45.640 blah.

00:30:45.920 They went

00:30:46.920 on that

00:30:49.320 Debbie and

00:30:50.440 I became

00:30:50.960 good close

00:30:51.820 friends before

00:30:52.500 we arrived

00:30:53.080 at Yale.

00:30:54.160 She was

00:30:55.060 honest and

00:30:55.720 gentle,

00:30:56.320 yada,

00:30:56.580 yada,

00:30:57.340 talking about

00:30:58.240 how she

00:30:59.140 has attended

00:30:59.960 their weddings

00:31:01.280 and has been

00:31:02.900 at weddings

00:31:03.520 with the

00:31:03.980 so-called

00:31:04.380 accusers,

00:31:05.920 attended

00:31:06.320 their weddings,

00:31:07.500 are not the

00:31:07.900 accusers,

00:31:08.440 but the

00:31:08.840 perpetrators,

00:31:12.160 the people

00:31:12.460 allegedly involved,

00:31:13.560 and they

00:31:15.580 have photographs

00:31:16.460 of her

00:31:17.120 taking

00:31:17.500 pictures,

00:31:18.240 I mean,

00:31:18.840 in pictures,

00:31:19.740 taking,

00:31:20.800 you know,

00:31:21.120 standing side

00:31:21.840 by side,

00:31:22.380 laughing and

00:31:22.920 being with

00:31:23.460 Brett Kavanaugh.

00:31:24.740 So what's

00:31:25.340 the truth?

00:31:25.800 I guess it's

00:31:30.080 just who you

00:31:30.480 believe.

00:31:32.960 And how do

00:31:34.020 you know who

00:31:34.520 to believe?

00:31:36.160 Well,

00:31:36.700 depending on

00:31:37.260 what group

00:31:37.800 you're in,

00:31:39.080 we can go

00:31:40.300 back again in

00:31:41.120 history and

00:31:42.600 we can figure

00:31:44.520 out how

00:31:45.840 people are

00:31:46.280 going to

00:31:46.500 react.

00:31:47.420 For instance,

00:31:48.360 in 1955,

00:31:49.660 it all came

00:31:50.480 down to

00:31:51.020 one woman's

00:31:51.760 testimony.

00:31:53.000 One woman.

00:31:54.380 She was a

00:31:55.160 white woman.

00:31:55.740 She was a

00:31:56.420 seemingly nice

00:31:57.580 woman.

00:31:58.540 She said

00:31:59.280 that a black

00:32:00.020 boy came in

00:32:00.840 and grabbed

00:32:02.000 her by the

00:32:02.800 waist,

00:32:03.620 said lewd

00:32:04.260 things to

00:32:04.860 her,

00:32:05.900 and touched

00:32:06.720 her.

00:32:08.340 Well,

00:32:08.820 was that

00:32:09.180 true?

00:32:10.780 Well,

00:32:11.220 the boy was

00:32:11.740 Emmett Till.

00:32:12.600 He was

00:32:13.080 brutally

00:32:13.500 murdered.

00:32:14.340 At the

00:32:14.860 time,

00:32:16.240 the South

00:32:17.020 believed the

00:32:18.560 woman.

00:32:19.400 The town

00:32:19.960 believed the

00:32:20.520 woman.

00:32:20.820 She was a

00:32:21.200 woman of

00:32:21.700 good standing.

00:32:23.520 And in

00:32:23.760 fact,

00:32:24.220 this is what

00:32:25.240 the mother

00:32:26.720 of Emmett

00:32:27.600 Till said

00:32:28.960 at the time

00:32:30.260 about the

00:32:31.160 accuser.

00:32:31.920 It's my

00:32:32.660 opinion that

00:32:33.480 the guilt

00:32:34.260 begins with

00:32:35.080 Mrs. Bryant.

00:32:36.480 And I want

00:32:37.100 to see Mrs.

00:32:37.880 Bryant punished

00:32:38.740 her husband

00:32:39.480 and any other

00:32:40.760 persons that

00:32:41.520 were in on

00:32:42.260 this thing.

00:32:43.460 And I feel

00:32:43.940 like the

00:32:44.580 pressure should

00:32:45.660 start from the

00:32:46.480 President of

00:32:47.040 the United

00:32:47.360 States and

00:32:48.020 be channeled

00:32:48.720 all the way

00:32:49.180 down to the

00:32:50.000 township of

00:32:50.700 Money,

00:32:51.000 Mississippi.

00:32:52.480 And I'm

00:32:52.960 certainly of

00:32:54.640 the opinion

00:32:55.160 that in as

00:32:55.700 much as my

00:32:56.300 son had to

00:32:57.060 die,

00:32:57.920 that I don't

00:32:58.540 want his

00:32:59.020 death to be

00:32:59.820 a vain thing.

00:33:01.180 If it can

00:33:01.720 further the

00:33:02.240 cause of

00:33:02.720 freedom,

00:33:03.220 then I will

00:33:04.300 say that he

00:33:04.880 died a hero.

00:33:05.620 Now, anyone

00:33:06.660 who wants to

00:33:07.380 say that

00:33:08.080 these two

00:33:08.640 people are

00:33:09.200 just rabble

00:33:09.940 rousers,

00:33:11.240 remember,

00:33:11.940 that's what

00:33:12.900 people said

00:33:13.600 about Emmett

00:33:14.140 Till.

00:33:14.820 He was just

00:33:15.480 a rabble

00:33:16.600 rouser.

00:33:17.440 For those

00:33:18.280 who are

00:33:19.540 defending

00:33:20.300 the accuser,

00:33:23.580 remember,

00:33:24.520 you're on the

00:33:25.720 same side

00:33:26.560 as she

00:33:27.560 was.

00:33:29.400 You're on the

00:33:30.080 same side as

00:33:31.080 those who

00:33:31.980 let the

00:33:32.980 actual

00:33:33.600 criminals go

00:33:34.860 because they

00:33:35.500 believed her

00:33:36.180 because you

00:33:37.420 have to

00:33:37.760 believe her.

00:33:38.360 She's a

00:33:38.660 white woman.

00:33:39.320 She's a

00:33:39.660 woman of

00:33:40.020 good standing.

00:33:41.740 Little did

00:33:42.500 we know at

00:33:42.940 the time her

00:33:43.540 motivation was

00:33:44.420 her husband was

00:33:45.180 beating her at

00:33:46.100 the time.

00:33:47.480 She didn't

00:33:48.320 confess until

00:33:49.140 2008 right

00:33:50.300 before she

00:33:50.800 died.

00:33:52.140 We don't

00:33:53.040 always just

00:33:54.040 automatically

00:33:54.660 believe the

00:33:55.420 accuser and

00:33:57.020 we have to

00:33:57.340 be careful

00:33:57.980 because people

00:33:59.320 have different

00:33:59.960 motivations.

00:34:01.080 what we

00:34:02.000 have to

00:34:02.400 do is

00:34:03.480 look for

00:34:04.060 the facts

00:34:04.840 and when

00:34:05.660 there's

00:34:05.940 enough

00:34:06.440 facts,

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00:35:41.440 We're going to

00:35:42.140 get into the

00:35:42.660 Ted Cruz and

00:35:43.680 Beto debate

00:35:44.760 here in just

00:35:45.800 a few minutes.

00:35:47.920 Also, we have

00:35:49.600 Heather McDonald

00:35:50.180 joining us.

00:35:50.740 She is a woman

00:35:51.780 who wrote the

00:35:52.220 diversity delusion

00:35:53.700 and she's

00:35:55.900 written a few

00:35:56.360 things about

00:35:56.900 this Brett

00:35:57.280 Cavanaugh thing

00:35:58.040 that I think

00:35:58.600 America needs

00:35:59.300 to hear.

00:36:00.260 She is somebody

00:36:01.480 that really

00:36:02.480 understands, I

00:36:04.720 think, the

00:36:05.300 things that I

00:36:05.720 tried to capture

00:36:06.560 in the book

00:36:08.300 Addicted to

00:36:08.820 Outrage.

00:36:09.900 She understands

00:36:11.180 that she's been

00:36:12.020 there at the

00:36:12.880 front lines and

00:36:15.080 maybe she can

00:36:15.660 help us figure

00:36:16.240 out how are

00:36:17.420 we to react,

00:36:18.620 what are we

00:36:19.000 supposed to do

00:36:19.940 first of all

00:36:21.840 with this

00:36:22.320 Brett

00:36:22.900 Cavanaugh

00:36:23.780 information that

00:36:24.820 we have,

00:36:25.500 what's the best

00:36:26.340 way to react

00:36:27.040 to that?

00:36:28.300 But she also

00:36:29.100 goes into

00:36:30.160 our children

00:36:31.580 and what we

00:36:33.440 need to be

00:36:33.900 looking for

00:36:34.440 with our

00:36:34.840 children and

00:36:35.680 how we are

00:36:36.600 to look ahead

00:36:37.480 for colleges

00:36:38.860 and universities.

00:36:39.820 I'm going to

00:36:40.480 talk to Heather

00:36:41.340 McDonald coming

00:36:42.080 up in just a

00:36:42.640 second.

00:36:44.140 Glenn Beck is

00:36:44.720 coming live to

00:36:45.600 talk about the

00:36:46.140 right path forward

00:36:46.920 and to make fun

00:36:47.960 of the people

00:36:48.380 standing in the

00:36:49.040 way.

00:36:49.500 He might not

00:36:49.940 be able to

00:36:50.340 save the

00:36:50.640 country, but

00:36:51.280 at least we

00:36:51.780 can all go

00:36:52.200 down laughing.

00:36:53.100 Glenn Beck

00:36:53.600 Live, the

00:36:54.360 Addicted to

00:36:54.900 Outrage Tour,

00:36:56.120 on tour this

00:36:56.960 fall.

00:36:59.280 Glenn Beck.

00:37:00.740 It's Monday,

00:37:01.380 September 24th.

00:37:02.980 This is the

00:37:03.680 Glenn Beck

00:37:04.140 program.

00:37:04.780 Heather

00:37:04.960 McDonald was

00:37:05.480 on with us a

00:37:06.000 couple of weeks

00:37:06.520 ago and I

00:37:07.660 was running

00:37:08.060 really late

00:37:08.800 and we ran

00:37:09.400 out of time

00:37:10.080 and I was

00:37:10.660 really bummed

00:37:11.400 because she

00:37:12.580 is an amazing

00:37:13.900 woman.

00:37:15.460 She has the

00:37:16.740 best-selling

00:37:17.440 book, War

00:37:18.940 on Cops.

00:37:20.320 She is also

00:37:20.880 with the

00:37:21.160 Manhattan

00:37:21.520 Institute,

00:37:22.460 contributing

00:37:22.940 editor for

00:37:23.540 the City

00:37:23.880 Journal.

00:37:24.780 She also

00:37:25.320 has her

00:37:25.960 roots in

00:37:26.700 deconstruction

00:37:27.680 and post-modernism.

00:37:29.520 She's the

00:37:29.820 author of the

00:37:30.220 book, The

00:37:30.560 Diversity

00:37:31.020 Delusion.

00:37:31.780 Heather

00:37:31.960 McDonald,

00:37:32.500 welcome back

00:37:32.920 to the

00:37:33.140 program.

00:37:33.520 How are

00:37:33.820 you?

00:37:34.700 Well, thank

00:37:35.080 you so much

00:37:35.500 for having me

00:37:36.020 on again.

00:37:36.520 Glenn, it's

00:37:36.880 a real

00:37:37.040 pleasure to

00:37:37.500 talk to

00:37:37.860 you.

00:37:38.080 So we

00:37:38.320 were just

00:37:38.660 getting into

00:37:39.060 some good

00:37:39.460 conversation

00:37:40.060 and we

00:37:40.360 had to

00:37:40.580 cut our

00:37:40.800 conversation

00:37:41.180 short last

00:37:41.740 time.

00:37:43.060 Let me

00:37:43.340 pick it up

00:37:44.500 because you've

00:37:45.380 written some

00:37:45.960 really fascinating

00:37:46.940 things about

00:37:47.660 Brett Kavanaugh.

00:37:50.440 Bring me up

00:37:51.240 to speed and

00:37:52.140 the audience

00:37:52.700 up to speed

00:37:53.240 on what your

00:37:55.380 thoughts are

00:37:56.120 on this

00:37:56.740 whole mess.

00:37:59.160 Well, so

00:37:59.600 far, Glenn,

00:38:00.520 the conservative

00:38:01.300 response has

00:38:02.260 been a

00:38:02.760 completely

00:38:03.120 legitimate one,

00:38:04.080 which is to

00:38:04.460 say that the

00:38:05.580 timing of the

00:38:06.500 charges brought

00:38:07.480 against Kavanaugh

00:38:08.700 are completely

00:38:10.540 spurious, shows

00:38:13.420 that this is

00:38:14.080 simply intended

00:38:15.380 to scuttle the

00:38:16.720 nomination as

00:38:17.420 opposed to getting

00:38:18.020 to the truth.

00:38:19.300 There have also

00:38:19.940 been legitimate

00:38:20.860 questions about

00:38:22.140 the credibility

00:38:23.200 of his accuser,

00:38:25.520 Professor Ford,

00:38:27.240 pointing out that

00:38:28.340 she has, for

00:38:32.220 somebody who's

00:38:32.780 allegedly traumatized

00:38:34.180 by this

00:38:34.700 allegedly searing

00:38:35.820 event, she can't

00:38:37.120 even remember

00:38:37.820 what year it

00:38:38.960 occurred, where

00:38:39.720 the House was,

00:38:40.780 that this party

00:38:41.840 was, where she

00:38:43.320 was allegedly

00:38:43.920 assaulted by

00:38:44.760 Kavanaugh.

00:38:45.420 Those are very

00:38:46.420 legitimate points

00:38:48.000 to make, but I

00:38:48.980 think it ducks a

00:38:50.980 more fundamental

00:38:51.840 question, which is

00:38:53.420 that even if it

00:38:54.700 were true, what

00:38:56.460 she alleged,

00:38:57.840 should that

00:38:58.540 outweigh

00:38:59.680 Kavanaugh's

00:39:01.680 clear record in

00:39:03.300 public service

00:39:04.340 and the three and

00:39:05.980 a half decades

00:39:06.980 of life in which

00:39:08.520 he has participated

00:39:09.300 in the public

00:39:10.160 sphere?

00:39:10.900 And I argue that

00:39:12.180 it shouldn't.

00:39:12.960 And again, I'm

00:39:14.160 just putting aside

00:39:15.340 for a moment

00:39:16.240 all the questions

00:39:17.720 of credibility.

00:39:18.500 I think what

00:39:19.760 we're seeing

00:39:20.360 here is the

00:39:22.380 fruition of

00:39:24.540 the feminist

00:39:25.560 mentality that

00:39:26.840 reverses the

00:39:27.880 order of the

00:39:30.100 realm of

00:39:31.340 public action,

00:39:32.900 public ideas,

00:39:34.460 a civilization

00:39:35.180 that is seen

00:39:36.080 as too male,

00:39:37.940 and putting

00:39:38.920 that below

00:39:40.360 issues of

00:39:41.960 eros and

00:39:43.600 personal

00:39:44.580 involvement.

00:39:45.620 As far as I'm

00:39:46.320 concerned, let's

00:39:47.460 take this out

00:39:48.460 of the current

00:39:49.220 Kavanaugh

00:39:50.820 situation, and

00:39:52.060 imagine a

00:39:53.080 hypothetical from

00:39:54.880 a liberal

00:39:55.400 perspective.

00:39:56.260 One of the

00:39:56.780 most liberal

00:39:57.920 lions of the

00:39:58.820 Supreme Court

00:39:59.500 was William

00:40:00.120 Brennan.

00:40:01.060 He massively

00:40:02.360 expanded the

00:40:03.900 welfare state,

00:40:06.420 the defenses

00:40:08.240 for criminal

00:40:08.960 defendants.

00:40:10.520 If he had,

00:40:11.620 as a 17-year-old,

00:40:13.160 engaged in some

00:40:14.180 boorish,

00:40:15.500 adolescent,

00:40:16.320 aggressive

00:40:16.900 alcohol-fueled

00:40:19.320 male behavior,

00:40:20.700 would a liberal

00:40:21.640 really say that

00:40:22.800 that one

00:40:23.760 unprecedented and

00:40:25.820 unrepeated

00:40:26.580 incident should

00:40:28.440 undercut a

00:40:30.860 lifetime of

00:40:32.420 contributions to

00:40:34.440 the liberal

00:40:35.680 exposition of

00:40:37.020 the Constitution?

00:40:37.860 And I would

00:40:38.720 imagine they would

00:40:39.520 say that it

00:40:40.140 shouldn't.

00:40:40.580 So, Heather,

00:40:42.940 haven't we

00:40:43.840 already decided

00:40:44.700 this as a

00:40:45.400 society,

00:40:45.980 though?

00:40:46.700 Because we've

00:40:47.700 already decided

00:40:48.700 that if you

00:40:50.040 are tried

00:40:52.700 and convicted

00:40:53.960 of even

00:40:54.880 murder,

00:40:56.440 your records

00:40:57.520 are sealed.

00:40:58.800 Because as long

00:40:59.500 as you don't

00:41:00.060 repeat it,

00:41:01.280 what you do

00:41:02.080 under, you

00:41:02.940 know, 18

00:41:03.720 should not be

00:41:06.000 held against

00:41:06.780 you for the

00:41:07.240 rest of your

00:41:07.720 life.

00:41:08.400 So I'm

00:41:09.220 not saying

00:41:09.800 that he's

00:41:10.260 innocent or

00:41:10.900 guilty.

00:41:11.460 I have no

00:41:12.220 idea.

00:41:13.380 I don't know

00:41:13.820 why we're even

00:41:14.400 discussing it

00:41:15.140 with the amount

00:41:16.480 of evidence

00:41:17.100 that we have.

00:41:18.360 But even

00:41:20.360 if he is

00:41:21.200 guilty of

00:41:21.780 this,

00:41:22.640 societal laws

00:41:24.120 come from

00:41:25.040 us.

00:41:25.940 Society has

00:41:26.800 already said,

00:41:28.020 look, if

00:41:28.580 you're under

00:41:29.120 age, we're

00:41:30.100 not going to

00:41:30.840 hold that

00:41:31.220 against you

00:41:31.820 as long as

00:41:33.100 you've

00:41:33.540 reformed.

00:41:35.400 Well, you

00:41:36.460 know, there's

00:41:36.880 some, if

00:41:37.340 you've

00:41:37.540 committed

00:41:37.800 murder, I

00:41:38.480 think that

00:41:38.960 you are

00:41:40.300 going to

00:41:40.500 be tried

00:41:40.880 as an

00:41:41.160 adult.

00:41:41.620 But you're

00:41:42.100 clearly right,

00:41:42.920 Glenn, we

00:41:43.260 do have

00:41:43.900 different

00:41:44.740 standards for

00:41:45.800 juveniles.

00:41:47.840 And we

00:41:48.660 are not

00:41:49.140 obviously

00:41:49.860 obeying the

00:41:50.980 law here.

00:41:52.200 You know,

00:41:52.540 the Senate

00:41:53.300 Judiciary

00:41:53.860 Committee is

00:41:54.700 twisting itself

00:41:55.440 into knots

00:41:56.160 to try and

00:41:56.880 accommodate

00:41:57.400 these last

00:41:58.820 minute

00:41:59.100 accusations

00:41:59.860 that are

00:42:00.480 being brought

00:42:01.340 forward clearly

00:42:02.160 to torpedo.

00:42:04.260 But even

00:42:05.300 if that were

00:42:06.380 not the

00:42:06.780 case, if

00:42:07.320 juvenile

00:42:07.700 records were

00:42:08.340 not sealed,

00:42:09.520 to me it

00:42:10.240 is simply

00:42:10.840 preposterous to

00:42:12.900 think that a

00:42:14.240 one-time

00:42:15.660 incident as

00:42:17.380 a 17-year-old

00:42:18.840 of aggressive

00:42:20.440 sexual behavior

00:42:22.640 counts more

00:42:24.560 in the life

00:42:26.060 of a public

00:42:27.880 figure, a

00:42:29.340 public

00:42:29.720 intellectual who

00:42:31.260 is involved in

00:42:32.340 the world of

00:42:33.020 ideas, that

00:42:34.220 that counts

00:42:35.180 more than

00:42:36.640 what his

00:42:37.100 contributions

00:42:37.760 have been as

00:42:39.040 a federal

00:42:39.500 judge.

00:42:40.640 And certainly,

00:42:41.360 again, if we

00:42:41.800 want to bring

00:42:42.220 it back into a

00:42:42.940 feminist perspective,

00:42:43.780 which I don't

00:42:44.700 think is

00:42:45.020 particularly relevant,

00:42:46.720 but if we want

00:42:48.180 to say that a

00:42:49.400 public figure's

00:42:50.580 treatment of

00:42:51.240 females should

00:42:52.860 be influential in

00:42:54.360 how we evaluate

00:42:55.360 his public

00:42:55.960 career, he has

00:42:58.100 been a leader

00:42:59.900 in the

00:43:01.920 treatment of

00:43:02.500 females as

00:43:03.220 clerks, he

00:43:03.900 was the first

00:43:04.660 judge to have

00:43:05.580 an all-female

00:43:06.340 class of

00:43:07.060 clerks, he's

00:43:07.600 had a majority

00:43:08.220 of clerks, his

00:43:09.320 female clerks

00:43:10.100 have been

00:43:10.380 unanimous in

00:43:11.160 testifying to

00:43:11.700 his character.

00:43:13.200 And when

00:43:13.900 you're a

00:43:14.700 clerk for a

00:43:15.360 judge, that's

00:43:16.340 not an easy

00:43:16.920 gig, I mean

00:43:17.580 it's pressure,

00:43:19.140 you're working

00:43:19.660 together late

00:43:20.600 at night, I

00:43:21.800 mean if you

00:43:22.280 are a dirt

00:43:23.040 bag, that's

00:43:24.420 the kind of

00:43:25.240 scenario where

00:43:26.520 it comes out,

00:43:27.120 is it not?

00:43:27.580 Absolutely, you're

00:43:29.160 working late

00:43:29.720 nights, this is

00:43:30.600 the very domain

00:43:31.600 where Eros

00:43:32.300 comes into

00:43:32.960 play, there's

00:43:34.040 plenty of room

00:43:34.980 for sexual

00:43:36.920 harassment, if

00:43:37.740 not actual

00:43:38.300 sexual involvement,

00:43:39.820 and we have

00:43:40.780 heard absolutely

00:43:41.540 nothing, if

00:43:42.060 there had been

00:43:42.760 any hint of

00:43:44.600 this it would

00:43:45.040 have come out,

00:43:46.320 but again,

00:43:47.900 Glenn, you

00:43:49.440 seem to be

00:43:50.260 moving towards

00:43:51.120 conceding that

00:43:52.500 in some

00:43:53.300 situations this

00:43:54.720 might be

00:43:55.040 relevant, if

00:43:55.640 it turned out

00:43:56.280 let's say that

00:43:56.920 James Madison,

00:43:58.240 one of our

00:43:58.900 most important

00:44:00.280 founding fathers

00:44:01.820 who was one

00:44:03.340 of the prime

00:44:04.260 architects of

00:44:05.380 the theory of

00:44:06.280 the separation

00:44:06.880 of powers, one

00:44:07.880 of the most

00:44:08.420 important contributors

00:44:09.420 to the

00:44:09.920 Federalist

00:44:10.380 Papers,

00:44:11.380 understanding

00:44:12.360 how to

00:44:14.820 try to

00:44:15.740 restrain

00:44:16.480 government

00:44:17.040 power, which

00:44:17.800 was the big

00:44:18.640 accomplishment

00:44:19.700 of the slow

00:44:21.800 patient evolution

00:44:22.960 of constitutional

00:44:24.160 thinking in

00:44:24.940 Europe.

00:44:25.240 if it turned

00:44:26.520 out that he

00:44:27.060 was a

00:44:27.440 skirt chaser,

00:44:29.160 that he had

00:44:30.460 padded the

00:44:31.420 butts of his

00:44:32.000 domestics,

00:44:32.840 again, I

00:44:33.700 argue that is

00:44:35.000 not relevant to

00:44:36.820 his contributions

00:44:37.880 to public life,

00:44:39.260 and to say that

00:44:40.280 it is, to say

00:44:42.260 that we should

00:44:42.880 actually reconsider

00:44:44.240 James Madison's

00:44:46.180 contributions, and

00:44:46.920 this is a pure

00:44:47.700 hypothetical.

00:44:48.700 Right, I don't

00:44:49.180 agree, I do not

00:44:50.600 agree, that

00:44:51.220 takes away from

00:44:54.800 his accomplishments.

00:44:56.300 However, we're

00:44:56.920 looking at

00:44:57.560 somebody in

00:44:58.020 history, and I

00:44:59.440 don't think we

00:44:59.920 can have

00:45:00.380 revisionist

00:45:01.000 history.

00:45:01.560 I mean, you

00:45:02.340 know, okay, if

00:45:02.960 that's who he

00:45:03.400 was, it's like

00:45:03.880 Winston Churchill.

00:45:05.280 Winston Churchill,

00:45:06.100 was he a good

00:45:06.640 guy or bad guy?

00:45:07.400 Well, if you

00:45:07.820 lived in India, he

00:45:08.560 was a really bad

00:45:09.180 guy.

00:45:09.440 He lived in

00:45:09.800 Europe, he was a

00:45:10.340 good guy.

00:45:10.860 So which is he?

00:45:11.500 He's both.

00:45:12.500 He's both.

00:45:13.060 We are both

00:45:13.600 flawed and

00:45:14.720 great at times

00:45:17.180 as human beings.

00:45:18.680 So you just

00:45:19.580 have to look at

00:45:20.140 it on the

00:45:20.580 balance.

00:45:22.140 You know, if

00:45:22.760 Kavanaugh, let's

00:45:25.300 say Kavanaugh

00:45:25.920 did this, I

00:45:28.540 would look at

00:45:29.120 this as something

00:45:30.640 that happened in

00:45:31.480 1982, and the

00:45:33.360 next thing that

00:45:34.140 I'd have to do

00:45:34.880 is, is there

00:45:35.880 any evidence that

00:45:37.280 he didn't learn

00:45:38.120 from this?

00:45:39.540 If he is still

00:45:40.620 doing it, if he

00:45:41.280 was still doing

00:45:42.100 it, it would

00:45:42.720 matter.

00:45:43.740 But there is no

00:45:44.980 evidence, not

00:45:45.900 only at the two

00:45:47.000 times now,

00:45:48.080 that they say

00:45:48.720 because another

00:45:49.160 one came out

00:45:49.720 last night, the

00:45:50.800 two times, there

00:45:51.740 doesn't seem to

00:45:52.660 be any evidence

00:45:53.980 at all, but it

00:45:56.780 also happened 35

00:45:58.220 years ago with

00:45:59.300 nothing else.

00:46:00.420 The guy has

00:46:01.440 lived an

00:46:02.520 exemplary life.

00:46:06.940 Well, yeah, and

00:46:08.540 I guess I'm

00:46:09.400 taking a very

00:46:10.300 absolute out

00:46:11.700 there position.

00:46:14.980 You're absolutely

00:46:15.820 right.

00:46:16.220 I mean, this

00:46:16.620 needs to be

00:46:17.420 stated, he

00:46:18.000 has led an

00:46:18.720 exemplary

00:46:19.220 life.

00:46:20.680 He has been

00:46:21.680 a champion

00:46:22.500 for women's

00:46:23.560 rights.

00:46:24.140 There is, apart

00:46:24.940 from this

00:46:25.400 completely

00:46:26.100 groundless

00:46:27.480 charge that

00:46:28.140 came out of

00:46:28.600 the New

00:46:28.840 Yorker, which

00:46:29.580 all of the

00:46:30.240 people that

00:46:31.220 were allegedly

00:46:31.720 at the party

00:46:32.280 deny, where

00:46:33.880 he was engaged

00:46:34.820 in the typical

00:46:35.720 drunken, boorish

00:46:37.240 hookup culture

00:46:38.220 of, you know,

00:46:40.820 sexual drunken

00:46:42.060 brawling.

00:46:42.540 even so, I

00:46:44.480 just think that

00:46:45.560 we are, the

00:46:46.620 feminists are

00:46:47.640 trying to take

00:46:48.440 our civilization

00:46:49.160 down, Glenn.

00:46:51.060 They are

00:46:51.660 denying the

00:46:52.540 realm of

00:46:53.300 ideas and

00:46:54.500 public action,

00:46:55.620 which has been

00:46:56.260 male in the

00:46:57.000 past, and

00:46:58.200 saying that the

00:46:59.540 realm of

00:47:00.020 eros, which

00:47:00.880 is a different

00:47:02.040 realm which

00:47:02.720 drives men and

00:47:03.700 women insane,

00:47:05.880 is the realm of

00:47:07.800 cathonic desire

00:47:09.120 that that, and

00:47:10.580 women's sort of

00:47:12.500 grudge matches

00:47:13.720 about that, should

00:47:15.200 have priority,

00:47:16.900 that we're

00:47:18.040 reversing what

00:47:19.060 I think is the

00:47:20.560 order for how

00:47:21.440 civilization goes

00:47:22.400 forward, and if

00:47:23.200 they win on

00:47:23.900 this, if they

00:47:25.040 win on this, the

00:47:26.260 feminist war on

00:47:27.540 what is perceived

00:47:28.500 as male

00:47:28.980 civilization is

00:47:30.040 going to become

00:47:30.580 all the more

00:47:31.240 extreme.

00:47:32.060 So, Heather, I

00:47:32.620 want you to go,

00:47:33.980 we're going to

00:47:34.440 take a quick

00:47:34.860 break, and

00:47:35.200 when you come

00:47:35.900 back, I want

00:47:36.380 you to go and

00:47:37.080 talk about

00:47:38.400 something that I

00:47:39.020 read in one of

00:47:39.680 your articles, I

00:47:40.540 think, in the

00:47:40.900 City Journal, about

00:47:41.800 how this event,

00:47:45.000 if it did

00:47:46.080 indeed happen,

00:47:47.520 this event, this

00:47:49.000 kind of thing, is

00:47:50.580 actually, you

00:47:52.860 know, something

00:47:53.660 that was, in a

00:47:54.880 way, spurred on

00:47:56.260 by the women's

00:47:58.740 rights movement,

00:47:59.600 by this extreme

00:48:01.880 death of

00:48:03.440 chivalry, and

00:48:04.840 you know, death

00:48:05.940 death of all

00:48:07.100 kind of moral

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00:48:08.680 like you to go

00:48:09.120 into that, because

00:48:09.740 I think that's

00:48:10.220 fascinating, when

00:48:11.420 we come back

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00:49:35.180 We're talking to

00:49:36.000 Heather McDonald about

00:49:37.360 Brett Kavanaugh, and

00:49:38.540 Heather, you wrote in

00:49:39.900 the City Journal, you

00:49:43.320 wrote an article called

00:49:44.920 The Feminist

00:49:45.460 Narcissism, and right in

00:49:48.780 the middle of it, you

00:49:49.580 said something remarkable

00:49:50.880 that the most salient

00:49:54.680 fact about this alleged

00:49:56.060 episode is not going to

00:49:57.900 be discussed, and you

00:49:59.080 go in to say, this is

00:50:01.460 kind of what society

00:50:03.840 was pushing, wasn't

00:50:05.400 it?

00:50:06.240 Well, absolutely.

00:50:07.840 Sexual liberation was

00:50:09.360 based on a complete

00:50:10.540 lie, which is that the

00:50:14.240 male and female

00:50:15.300 libidos are identical,

00:50:17.840 that we could strip

00:50:20.000 away the traditional

00:50:21.300 methods that civilization

00:50:23.780 has developed to

00:50:25.400 tame and civilize the

00:50:29.140 male libido thing, the

00:50:30.600 ideas of male

00:50:31.720 chivalry, respect for

00:50:34.500 women, gentlemanliness,

00:50:38.120 and on the female side,

00:50:40.080 the norms of female

00:50:41.420 modesty, prudence, and

00:50:43.200 ladylike behavior.

00:50:45.560 We could strip away those

00:50:47.240 norms.

00:50:47.560 We could say that they're

00:50:48.360 oppressive, patriarchal,

00:50:50.580 sexual, sexist, and women

00:50:53.900 and men could meet

00:50:55.360 mano a mano on the

00:50:57.360 sexual battlefield, and

00:50:59.220 everything would be

00:50:59.980 great.

00:51:01.240 And it turns out that's

00:51:02.500 not the case.

00:51:04.060 What we have on college

00:51:05.460 campuses today is not an

00:51:07.560 epidemic of rape, Pache the

00:51:09.600 feminist.

00:51:10.320 What we have is a drunken

00:51:12.820 hookup culture where males

00:51:16.700 are now allowed to act as

00:51:18.680 bourgeoisie as they want.

00:51:19.880 Females try to catch up.

00:51:21.980 They drink themselves

00:51:22.940 blotto precisely in order

00:51:25.240 to reduce their sexual

00:51:27.640 inhibitions.

00:51:29.260 And there's a lot of

00:51:30.520 drunken one-night stands.

00:51:33.820 Males are biologically

00:51:35.820 wired to want as much

00:51:37.860 sex with as many different

00:51:40.100 females as possible.

00:51:42.500 Females have very different

00:51:44.080 responses to sexual

00:51:45.500 intercourse, biologically,

00:51:47.020 hormonally.

00:51:47.680 They develop feelings of

00:51:50.440 intimacy and a yearning for

00:51:53.000 connectedness afterwards.

00:51:56.200 And what happens on these

00:51:57.480 college campuses after these

00:51:59.260 drunken hookups, sometimes the

00:52:01.420 females feel abandoned, or

00:52:04.620 they can keep up having sex with

00:52:07.300 a guy and trying to seduce him

00:52:09.720 for months and then decide,

00:52:11.320 after having fallen to the

00:52:13.340 grips of the Title IX bureaucracy

00:52:15.140 and the campus rape massive

00:52:17.820 administrative industry on a

00:52:22.600 college campus, they

00:52:24.000 retrospectively reclassify their

00:52:25.960 experience as rape, even though

00:52:29.900 they don't even usually report it.

00:52:32.960 And it was largely voluntary.

00:52:35.520 But what's going on now on college

00:52:37.660 campuses and the New Yorker story

00:52:40.860 about the party that Yale

00:52:43.000 Kavanaugh was allegedly at

00:52:45.220 is a perfect demonstration of what's

00:52:47.840 going on, is sexual liberation

00:52:49.940 having a nervous breakdown.

00:52:53.440 And now you have this bizarre

00:52:56.920 situation on college campuses

00:52:59.040 where virtually the same students who

00:53:02.400 30, 40 years ago said to the adults,

00:53:05.140 get out of our bedrooms, no more

00:53:07.880 oversight from the college

00:53:09.820 administrators, no more in loco

00:53:11.380 parentis rules.

00:53:12.380 We can handle this ourselves.

00:53:14.480 Now you have students asking the

00:53:18.540 adult administrators to write

00:53:21.020 rules for sex.

00:53:23.440 Are you kidding me?

00:53:25.040 Then these rules, these affirmative

00:53:26.680 consent rules look like something

00:53:28.100 you'd see for buying a used car or a

00:53:31.140 mortgage contract for something that

00:53:33.680 is the very realm of the

00:53:36.320 inarticulate, the ambiguous, the

00:53:38.920 fraught, the chthonic.

00:53:41.180 And it is a very, very strange turn

00:53:44.000 of events.

00:53:44.820 And it results from the fact that we

00:53:47.520 have denied the natural differences

00:53:50.420 between the sexes.

00:53:52.160 But the feminists are not willing to

00:53:54.560 say sexual revolution was a mistake.

00:53:57.900 They want to preserve the prerogative of

00:54:00.380 maximal promiscuity for girls.

00:54:03.160 And so they're responding with this

00:54:05.060 bizarre legalistic response.

00:54:09.060 And then the next step clearly is

00:54:10.980 having a college dean present for

00:54:14.200 every drunken coital coupling that

00:54:18.220 goes on in a student dorm so that

00:54:21.140 afterwards when this comes before the

00:54:23.280 extraordinarily inadequate but

00:54:26.540 bizarrely complicated sexual assault

00:54:30.160 assault tribunal situations, that there

00:54:33.560 can be more third party evidence.

00:54:37.260 But but this is we are reaping what we

00:54:39.380 sowed in the 1960s.

00:54:41.140 I find it amazing that, you know, what

00:54:43.940 you just outlined was the death of the

00:54:47.400 chaperone, because we know human nature

00:54:50.840 is human nature.

00:54:51.700 And so get rid of the chaperone, get rid of

00:54:54.800 everybody.

00:54:55.460 Then things, you know, take the course of

00:54:58.900 human nature.

00:54:59.560 And now we're back to more of a legalistic

00:55:02.840 chaperone.

00:55:03.640 I mean, it's it's insane.

00:55:05.940 We've made a return journey, except now it's

00:55:10.140 really oppressive and quite frightening for

00:55:12.660 everybody involved.

00:55:13.880 That's absolutely right.

00:55:15.560 And the other thing that we did, Glenn, we

00:55:18.080 used to have the default for premarital sex

00:55:21.360 at no, and it was not ironclad.

00:55:25.840 Obviously, there were plenty of females who

00:55:28.340 opted out of that default in college or

00:55:31.480 elsewhere.

00:55:31.840 But that no gave them power.

00:55:35.280 It meant that when they were forced with an

00:55:37.580 importuning male with a surging hormones, that

00:55:42.880 a no did not have to be negotiated in media

00:55:45.960 race.

00:55:47.180 It was assumed and the male had to had to

00:55:50.340 persuade the female to opt out of the

00:55:52.460 no.

00:55:53.120 The sexual liberation reversed that default.

00:55:56.660 Now, the default for premarital sex on

00:56:00.060 college and elsewhere is yes.

00:56:02.780 And females have to negotiate a no.

00:56:06.520 And what they find, you have even the New

00:56:09.200 York Times' newly formed gender editor, the

00:56:12.740 Times is so far into pursuing the left-wing

00:56:18.000 feminist revolution that they now have an

00:56:19.760 entire bureau devoted to covering alleged

00:56:24.380 gender and patriarchy issues.

00:56:26.460 She wrote an op-ed describing sex she had as a

00:56:29.880 19-year-old with an older man that she admits was

00:56:34.200 actually not coercive.

00:56:36.380 But she didn't really want to have sex.

00:56:40.060 But she went along with it.

00:56:41.520 She went along with it because it was too hard to

00:56:44.920 bargain and know out of the situation.

00:56:46.960 All right.

00:56:47.280 Back in just a second with Heather McDonald and the

00:56:50.340 diversity delusion when we come back.

00:56:53.160 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:56:59.420 Last week, I published my book, Addicted to Outrage, and

00:57:04.620 it is kind of a starter's guide into what's happening

00:57:07.640 to us and into the realm of postmodernism.

00:57:12.260 But it is really, truly only a starter's guide.

00:57:15.200 If you have read it yet, you need to pick up the

00:57:18.920 diversity delusion.

00:57:20.960 Heather McDonald, you were actually an academic that

00:57:25.340 was kind of into deconstruction and postmodernism.

00:57:28.660 Were you not, Heather?

00:57:30.160 To my great regret, I certainly was, Glenn.

00:57:32.600 I had come to college fascinated by language, and I

00:57:36.100 loved very florid, just strange language of Faulkner

00:57:42.380 and Melville.

00:57:43.420 And deconstruction in the 70s was the hottest thing

00:57:46.660 going.

00:57:47.060 And it purported to be about language, and yet it had a

00:57:51.080 very perverse view of how human beings communicate and

00:57:55.460 even what the self is.

00:57:57.360 But I was too ignorant to be critical of it at the time.

00:58:02.120 Fortunately, I eventually studied linguistics when I was in

00:58:06.120 England and went back to start my PhD under my professors in

00:58:11.340 college who were the biggest exponents of deconstruction at

00:58:14.960 the time and realized that everything that I'd learned was not

00:58:18.980 just nonsense.

00:58:19.980 It was literally madness.

00:58:22.560 I wasted so much time pouring over the works of the academic

00:58:27.720 fraud, Jacques Derrida, trying to understand them.

00:58:30.860 But it did give me...

00:58:32.980 One thing that I'm grateful for, though, Glenn, is that in the

00:58:37.360 1970s, I was in college before multiculturalism hit the academy.

00:58:44.640 So as perverse as deconstruction was, we read the greatest authors without

00:58:50.860 anybody thinking to complain about their gonads and melanin.

00:58:54.860 So I read Chaucer, Spencer, Milton, William Wordsworth, Wallace Stevens, and

00:59:03.200 poured myself into the beauty of their language.

00:59:06.080 Today, a college student is being given a license for ignorance and a license to

00:59:12.240 hate by the faculty and by college administrators who are complicit in this

00:59:21.080 destructive narrative that Western civilization is the source of all racism and

00:59:28.760 sexism and oppression in the world, and that the greatest works of our

00:59:33.720 civilization, if not world civilization, can be rejected simply on the facile

00:59:40.400 ground that the authors or creators or painters or philosophers were not of the

00:59:47.220 students' own gender and race.

00:59:49.580 This is narcissism, it's closed-mindedness, and it is going to destroy our society and

00:59:55.660 lead possibly to war.

00:59:57.620 Well, I think we're on the verge of that now.

01:00:02.400 I mean, what fascinates me is we have had these new ideas and these, or at least what most

01:00:10.680 of society thinks, the new ideas, the Me Too movement, even, the cisgender, you know,

01:00:18.880 language that's coming out, all these things, and nobody asks, wait a minute, where is that

01:00:24.680 coming from?

01:00:25.980 Who's printing up words while we sleep?

01:00:29.960 Who's changing definitions while we sleep?

01:00:32.880 This virus, this postmodernist or now social justice combination,

01:00:37.960 has been unleashed on us, and it is, I mean, is there much more of this to unleash on us,

01:00:48.100 Heather?

01:00:49.220 Well, you know, people, I've been saying that for the last 30 years, and it always gets worse.

01:00:54.500 I think our imaginations are not adequate to imagine what comes next.

01:00:59.220 College now is one ruthless competition in who can be top victim.

01:01:04.740 And, you know, the gays have been pushed aside because that's been now completely legitimized,

01:01:13.560 rightly so, arguably right, whatever your position is.

01:01:16.720 Now it's trans, but that won't last.

01:01:19.660 I mean, there's going to be some new victim category that will trump the trans category,

01:01:24.700 which we now have 116 and still metastasizing versions of gender.

01:01:30.160 And so what we have on college campuses are students acting out little psychodramas of

01:01:37.680 oppression before an appreciative audience of deanlets and vice provosts of diversity,

01:01:44.220 equity, and inclusion who use the student narcissistic bathos to expand their dominion.

01:01:51.060 And people have to pay attention to what's going on in college, because as you say, Glenn,

01:01:56.980 it is now in the world at large, and it is destroying meritocracy.

01:02:01.120 The sciences are now being subjected to the diversity delusion.

01:02:05.520 Scientific departments are being forced to hire by gender and race rather than scientific merit.

01:02:10.560 It's going to take down our competitive edge.

01:02:12.800 And again, it is producing division unlike anything we've seen before.

01:02:18.680 Well, the diversity delusion is the name of your is the name of your book, and it's aptly titled.

01:02:25.280 It is a delusion, but I think it's a delusion also on the people who are on the part of the people who are not involved,

01:02:31.580 because we we delude ourselves and laugh it off and say, oh, listen to these crazies.

01:02:37.220 These crazies have an enormous amount of power now and are really actually at the front of the dog.

01:02:44.340 We're at the tail of the dog, and they're feeding in all kinds of crap.

01:02:49.000 And and it is it's changing us and we're dismissive of it.

01:02:54.420 And because we're dismissive of it, we don't we don't do anything.

01:02:58.620 But let me get to that point.

01:03:00.800 What do you do?

01:03:02.820 What do you do?

01:03:03.660 First of all, I just I can't under underline what you've said more.

01:03:08.840 You cannot you cannot ignore this stuff.

01:03:11.840 It is being funneled into the so-called real world at a at a dizzying pace by college graduates.

01:03:20.020 They're taking up the corporations.

01:03:22.160 They're occupying the human resources departments.

01:03:24.900 They're occupying the centers of power.

01:03:27.200 When when Google fired a computer engineer, James Damore, in August of 2017 for daring to question in a reasoned fact based 10 page memo, daring to challenge the feminist orthodoxy at Google.

01:03:41.400 When the CEO fired him, he used the exact same language of Bay thoughts imported from the academy, saying that, well, Google's employees were hurting that that James Damore had harmed them because of writing in a rational argument.

01:03:57.680 This is transforming our world, what we can do, the core fallacy behind the diversity delusion, Glenn, is the idea that racism and sexism is baked into the American identity and polity.

01:04:15.380 That everything that we see around us is the product of racism and sexism, that, you know, the most absurd instantiation of this is on college campuses, which are the most privileged, open minded in some ways, environments in human history.

01:04:33.060 And students, they are claimed that they're an existential threat.

01:04:37.000 If they can believe that on a college campus, which is preposterous, yes, they can believe it anywhere.

01:04:44.160 But as long as that remains the elite's dominant narrative about America, you're going to have the free speech crisis in the name of protecting these oppressed victims, and you're going to have the assault on meritocracy.

01:04:59.580 So what all of us have to do is to reject at every possible moment and opportunity the idea that Americans today remain fundamentally bigoted and racist.

01:05:14.140 It is true that our history is an appalling one.

01:05:19.160 We were blind for too many decades to the grotesque betrayal of our founding principles, whether it came to slavery or Jim Crow segregation.

01:05:31.660 But we have changed enormously, but we have changed enormously, and Americans today are ready more than they ever have been to be post-racial, but the diversity czars on campus and in corporations are not willing to allow us to be such.

01:05:47.040 So, Heather, the one problem that you come across is we are divided now into camps, and I believe there are actually three camps.

01:05:57.140 There are those on the right, a very small number, that want it their way or the highway, and they're not going to take any different, and it's really a totalitarian kind of philosophy.

01:06:08.400 Then you have the antiphon, the leaders of postmodern thought that want to destroy the West, but the third group is about, I think, about 70% of the American population, and it includes independents, Democrats, and Republicans that don't really know what's going on, but they like capitalism, they like the country, they feel the same way, they might differ on policies, but they are not for all of this bull crap.

01:06:36.420 Would you agree with that, or are there only two camps?

01:06:41.080 Well, 70%, I think, is optimistic.

01:06:45.300 I think that there are certainly people, very many people, who don't agree with that, but we're in a race against time.

01:06:53.340 You know, I still believe in the university's mission as it was originally conceived.

01:06:58.260 I believe in universities, I think they should be the places where we're down on our knees in gratitude for the accomplishments of our civilization, for beauty and wisdom, but it is the case that as we push more and more people to go to college, as they graduate and come out into the world, they are bearing this diversity virus with them, and they are transforming the culture, and they agree with the...

01:07:24.260 Do you send your kids to... I had Michael Reckenwald from NYU over the weekend on our podcast, and he said, don't, I wouldn't send my kids to college.

01:07:33.260 I wouldn't, he said, I, in fact, never thought I'd be the person saying this, homeschool. I wouldn't put them in any school.

01:07:39.680 Yeah, I mean, we're going to have to get to homeschooling for college soon and recreate the practice of the aristocracy in the 18th and 19th centuries of a tutor, you know, that would take the child on the grand tour of Europe.

01:07:52.980 That would certainly be preferable to what we've got now.

01:07:55.780 The other thing, obviously, that people, your listeners, have to do, Glenn, is do not even think about giving money to your alma mater unless you've given, done due diligence and can be confident that it upholds the practice of disinterested, depoliticized study and is teaching students there the due gratitude that they owe their inheritance.

01:08:23.160 That's very hard to find. I mean, there's not many colleges that you can be 100% confident about. University of Dallas, the St. John's campuses, Hillsdale, but certainly...

01:08:35.320 I was going to say, I think I could do five, and you hit three of them.

01:08:38.980 Getting close, yeah. At the very least, you know, it's hard to get parents to turn down the possibility of credentializing their child, but arm him before he arrives on campus.

01:08:52.360 And encourage him to not take the trendy courses, to try and find something that will immerse him in greatness and not, you know, create in him either the anger, false anger, or the false sense of guilt.

01:09:12.560 You know, because when a student steps on campus today, all he hears about is toxic masculinity and white privilege.

01:09:18.900 Those are phony ideas that are taking up precious opportunity, you know, to learn something great instead of something debasing and false.

01:09:30.720 Heather MacDonald, thank you so much for being on the program.

01:09:33.660 The name of the book is The Diversity Delusion, How Race and Gender Pandering Corrupt the University and Undermine Our Culture.

01:09:39.480 It is absolutely happening.

01:09:41.540 She lays it out very, very clearly, along with the steps that you should take in your own life.

01:09:48.240 Thank you so much, Heather. Appreciate it.

01:09:49.920 Thank you so much.

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01:11:50.360 Pat Gray, fellow Texan.

01:11:54.600 Do you agree with my statement that if Ted Cruz loses to Beto,

01:12:01.600 Robert Francis, that Texas is not really Texas anymore?

01:12:11.840 Oh, yeah.

01:12:13.160 Absolutely.

01:12:14.200 I mean, it's shocking to me that this guy even has 5% in Texas.

01:12:19.240 Yeah, I know.

01:12:19.940 He should be.

01:12:20.780 Ted should be 30, 40 points ahead of this guy.

01:12:24.080 He's the anti-Texas candidate.

01:12:26.980 He really is.

01:12:27.960 Against guns.

01:12:29.240 Uh-huh.

01:12:29.620 Yeah.

01:12:30.300 Police.

01:12:30.900 You know, against police.

01:12:32.900 Just universal health care.

01:12:34.940 He's 4.

01:12:36.280 Socialism, borders, all of it.

01:12:38.320 I mean, it's just crazy.

01:12:40.300 It's crazy.

01:12:41.020 And you see the polls.

01:12:43.960 Do you believe the polls?

01:12:45.300 There was one poll that came out last week.

01:12:47.360 Yeah, that had him up by 9.

01:12:48.880 Right.

01:12:49.200 That had Ted Cruz up by 9.

01:12:51.520 It may be that people are starting to hear him speak more, and now it's sinking in.

01:12:57.120 Nah, we can't have this guy be.

01:12:59.000 Yeah, I don't care how dashing and cool he is.

01:13:02.300 I mean, I just think, especially in Texas, somebody who goes on running for a Republican

01:13:08.740 that is the darling of the media, that is on Ellen, and Jimmy Fallon, and they're fawning

01:13:15.480 over him, and Hollywood loves him, and doing fundraisers, you would think that Texans would

01:13:20.840 be like, okay, all right, no.

01:13:23.560 And I hope that's what's starting to happen.

01:13:27.460 They had a big debate on Friday.

01:13:29.060 I know.

01:13:29.520 And we're going to go over that and show the rest of the world, if Ted Cruz loses Texas,

01:13:35.480 I think we as a nation may have lost Texas, and that changes things dramatically.

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01:14:00.540 Glenn Beck.

01:14:03.340 Well, nothing says the patriarchy like Prospector Pete.

01:14:07.220 Am I right?

01:14:08.420 Right?

01:14:09.120 I mean, you think of, you know, well, I'm just going to go get some gold.

01:14:13.280 You think of that guy, and you're like, oh, my gosh.

01:14:16.400 Oppression.

01:14:17.460 The hierarchy.

01:14:18.400 Patriarchy.

01:14:18.800 Living in a wood cabin in squalor in the mid-1800s, fighting every day to achieve the American

01:14:24.960 dream just with a pan.

01:14:26.920 I'm just looking for some gold.

01:14:29.980 You can see how many people he oppressed.

01:14:34.440 Oh, my gosh.

01:14:35.980 And Al Paz Prospector Pete, even though he's been dead for, you know, about 170 years, maybe.

01:14:44.860 You know, the old 49er is back at his old work.

01:14:50.040 He is.

01:14:51.140 He's keeping kids on college campuses down.

01:14:53.740 They don't see the hard work and isolation that goes into being an American in the ultimate

01:14:59.260 wilderness.

01:15:00.280 They don't see the possibilities of achieving a dream.

01:15:03.020 All they see is racism and genocide.

01:15:06.020 President Jane Close Connolly said in his statement to the university, as our diversity grew and more

01:15:11.800 voices were heard, we came to know that the 1849 California gold rush was a time in history

01:15:17.860 when the indigenous peoples of California endured subjugation, violence and threats of

01:15:23.140 genocide.

01:15:25.120 Today, the spirit of inclusivity is reflected in our students, faculty, staff, alumni and

01:15:31.180 community.

01:15:32.760 Today's beach is not connected to that area, to that era.

01:15:37.420 I will tell you this.

01:15:38.340 They're so inclusive that they're going to get and push everybody who disagrees with them

01:15:42.200 away and push them into a closet or or maybe they can beat them, set them on fire or put

01:15:47.520 them in jail.

01:15:48.160 Well, recent resolution to the statue removed reads multiple scholars have cited the California

01:15:56.180 prospectors, also known as the 49ers.

01:15:59.880 Don't get me started because that football team I'm going after that football team next, but

01:16:03.580 also known as the 49ers as culpable in violent and genocidal acts against the indigenous people

01:16:10.840 of California.

01:16:11.700 Well, I know I killed families, whole groups of families.

01:16:18.160 Using my little mining tin there in the water, I used it as a deadly Frisbee.

01:16:24.500 Prospectors in California perpetrated colonialization, white supremacy, racism and exclusion ideals,

01:16:32.860 not only against indigenous American communities, but also women, people of color and dare I

01:16:39.440 say it, non-Protestant communities.

01:16:42.640 The document reads like a neo-Marxist rant straight out of a sociology textbook.

01:16:48.020 Oh, maybe that's because it is.

01:16:52.160 I talk about this in my book, Addicted to Outrage.

01:16:54.660 If you haven't gotten it yet, you must get it today.

01:16:57.180 It is the beginning of your starter course of understanding not only the world we're living

01:17:02.160 in and the insanity that is going around us, but how to stop it.

01:17:06.580 But this is one more example of postmodern social justice and you cannot ignore it and

01:17:15.280 you cannot win if you're fighting the way we've been fighting.

01:17:18.800 You must understand what it is, what the goal is, what the desire is, what the desirable outcome,

01:17:27.140 not only for the whole social justice movement, but to get you personally to do.

01:17:34.740 Once you understand that, you're prepared to fight and win.

01:17:39.440 But this is just another example of postmodern social justice changing everything we think

01:17:45.600 we know about our world.

01:17:48.880 Well, yes.

01:17:51.780 It's Monday, September 24th.

01:17:54.480 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:17:56.020 Did you by any chance hear the podcast that I released Saturday, Pat?

01:18:02.220 No.

01:18:03.680 Would you, if you have time today, spend the time and go back and listen to that podcast.

01:18:08.840 You can find it on iTunes or Stitcher or wherever you get podcasts and listen to it.

01:18:13.020 It's the Saturday podcast, episode three of the Glenn Beck podcast.

01:18:17.480 It's Michael Rechtenwald.

01:18:19.280 He is a former NYU professor.

01:18:22.940 I listened to it twice over the weekend.

01:18:25.520 There was so much to learn from that.

01:18:29.380 And you're, the scales fall off your eyes.

01:18:31.620 You're listening to him and you're like, this is a guy who was, who was part of the postmodern

01:18:35.220 world.

01:18:35.760 He was teaching it up until recently.

01:18:37.880 And I can't remember.

01:18:38.660 It was one of the students seriously said that they were a, like a silver wing dragonfly.

01:18:48.860 And that's what they wanted on their records.

01:18:51.860 That they were a silver wing dragon or dragonfly.

01:18:54.700 And the other was a large and spacious building.

01:18:58.060 And you had to refer to them as a large and spacious building.

01:19:01.160 When you called on him in class.

01:19:02.540 Yes.

01:19:03.300 You can't call him Mr.

01:19:04.280 Or Mrs.

01:19:05.060 He's a large.

01:19:06.020 That is a large and spacious building.

01:19:08.160 Okay.

01:19:08.920 All right.

01:19:09.360 And he just, he thought it was funny until he realized they were serious.

01:19:14.820 Then he tweeted it out.

01:19:16.080 And the administration and all of his postmodern Marxist friends turned on him.

01:19:20.960 And he, he was a guy who used to write white papers for communists.

01:19:26.140 He was a published communist.

01:19:28.280 Wow.

01:19:28.680 And he has turned in, in record time and is now trying to ring the bell to anybody who

01:19:33.740 will listen to him.

01:19:34.740 Please.

01:19:35.300 If you haven't listened to the podcast from this weekend, please do episode number

01:19:39.600 three, wherever you find a podcast, Michael Reckenwald.

01:19:43.520 I'm guessing he doesn't work there anymore.

01:19:45.020 No, he doesn't work there anymore.

01:19:46.840 Wow.

01:19:47.360 Yeah.

01:19:47.540 They actually put him on a, a, a medical leave because they were very concerned about

01:19:52.760 his mental health.

01:19:53.800 Oh, well, yeah.

01:19:54.320 If you have a problem with somebody identifying as a silver wing dragonfly.

01:19:58.360 Right.

01:19:58.800 And you, you think that's unusual.

01:20:00.360 Right.

01:20:00.860 You've got to go.

01:20:01.800 Yeah.

01:20:02.000 You've got, you've got to go.

01:20:03.320 You got to get some rest.

01:20:04.420 You got to get some rest.

01:20:05.500 Clearly you're mentally unstable.

01:20:07.280 Right.

01:20:07.840 Isn't that crazy?

01:20:08.760 It's unbelievable.

01:20:09.860 It's crazy.

01:20:10.340 It's unbelievable.

01:20:10.760 So tell me about the, uh, the Beto debate.

01:20:13.500 It happened on Friday.

01:20:14.780 Yeah.

01:20:15.020 Um, Beto and, uh, Ted Cruz were, were debating.

01:20:19.400 Give me some of the highlights.

01:20:20.960 Um, some of the highlights to me were, uh, Cruz hitting Beto on his stance on police because

01:20:27.920 he's so supportive of the, uh, the, the kneeling at the NFL football games and what that supposedly

01:20:36.720 represents.

01:20:37.480 Right.

01:20:37.760 Right.

01:20:37.860 Right.

01:20:37.960 Right.

01:20:38.160 So, uh, Cruz was kind of hitting him on those because that, there's not too many things

01:20:42.980 more anti-Texan than going after police or the military.

01:20:46.620 And, and Beto seems to do that on a pretty regular basis.

01:20:50.060 So, uh, this clip is Cruz talking about how offensive Beto has been with his police comments.

01:20:57.220 Let me say right now, I think it is offensive to call police officers modern day Jim Crow.

01:21:03.920 So that is not Texas.

01:21:06.060 That's your, that's your time, Senator.

01:21:07.580 Please, please, audience, please.

01:21:11.600 No applause.

01:21:13.440 What Senator Cruz said is simply untrue.

01:21:16.120 I did not call police officers modern day Jim Crow.

01:21:19.280 And I, as well as Senator Cruz and everyone here, mourn the passing of officer hall in

01:21:25.820 Fort Worth.

01:21:26.480 My uncle Raymond was a sheriff's deputy in El Paso.

01:21:29.980 In fact, he was the captain of the El Paso County jail.

01:21:32.820 He's the one who, the tragic shooting death of Botham Jean.

01:21:37.760 You have another unarmed black man killed in this country by law enforcement.

01:21:42.840 Now, no member of law enforcement wants that to happen.

01:21:45.140 No member of this community wants that to happen.

01:21:47.360 But we've got to do something better than what we've been doing so far.

01:21:50.460 If African-Americans represent 13% of the population in this country, that they represent

01:21:55.940 one third of those who are shot by law enforcement, we have something wrong.

01:21:59.760 If we have the largest prison population on the face of the planet, and it is disproportionately

01:22:04.320 comprised of people of color, we have something wrong in this country.

01:22:08.360 Republicans and Democrats should be able to work together with.

01:22:11.540 How would you fix it?

01:22:13.260 Notice he doesn't say blacks in prison.

01:22:15.220 And he says people of color because a new study came out and showed this weekend that

01:22:20.460 our prisons are made up a great deal by illegal immigrants.

01:22:28.420 Yes.

01:22:29.020 Yes.

01:22:29.360 Hispanic illegal immigrants.

01:22:31.360 Right.

01:22:32.020 Not Irish like Beto.

01:22:33.780 Not Irish.

01:22:34.920 So, yeah.

01:22:35.620 So, you have to say people of color if you want a comment like that to be anywhere close

01:22:40.720 to accurate.

01:22:41.340 So, did he say?

01:22:42.820 He said he, in the context of what he was saying, he kind of said that.

01:22:47.860 But, of course, he denies that he was talking about the police.

01:22:51.360 But everybody knows when you look at his statement in context, yeah, he kind of did compare the

01:22:58.460 police to Jim Crow laws and talked about how we're still going through Jim Crow today.

01:23:03.300 It's just as bad today as it was back in the Jim Crow days.

01:23:07.400 That is so offensive to say to police, but also to the African-American community.

01:23:14.260 That is not true.

01:23:16.540 Not at all.

01:23:17.020 To compare what people are going through today, even in the worst sections, to compare it

01:23:23.140 to today, to the 1940s or 30s, Jim Crow laws, even the 50s or 60s, it's not even close.

01:23:32.040 Yeah.

01:23:32.300 And that's kind of what Cruz was saying.

01:23:34.720 Told Beto in this clip how irresponsible it is that he's saying that about police.

01:23:40.260 I believe everyone's rights should be protected, regardless of your race, regardless of your

01:23:44.300 ethnicity.

01:23:44.740 But I'll tell you something, I've been to too many police funerals.

01:23:51.080 I was here in Dallas when five police officers were gunned down because of irresponsible and

01:23:57.260 hateful rhetoric.

01:23:58.900 I was at the funeral in Houston at Second Baptist Church where Deputy Goforth had been

01:24:03.200 shot in the back of the head at a service station because of irresponsible and hateful rhetoric.

01:24:08.900 Just now, Congressman O'Rourke repeated things he knows aren't true.

01:24:12.080 He stated, for example, white police officers are shooting unarmed African-American children.

01:24:17.540 The Washington Post fact-checked that claim and conclude Congressman O'Rourke was wrong.

01:24:22.420 But I'll tell you something, that rhetoric does damage.

01:24:25.280 That rhetoric divides us on race.

01:24:27.360 It inflames hatred.

01:24:28.700 We should be bringing people together.

01:24:30.500 So here's the problem.

01:24:32.820 You can hear it between the two of them.

01:24:35.560 If you're just looking for a guy you like, that is likable.

01:24:41.240 He just seems likable.

01:24:42.960 Yeah.

01:24:43.280 When you listen to Ted, he sounds like he's a politician.

01:24:47.700 That's the problem with Ted Cruz has been the problem with Ted Cruz for a while.

01:24:51.320 I hope to God we are not the society, in Texas at least, that is doing a personality.

01:24:59.000 Well, I just like him.

01:24:59.980 I don't know.

01:25:00.640 He's just kind of, he just, he sounds like me.

01:25:03.880 I don't care if they sound like me.

01:25:05.760 I know.

01:25:06.840 I know.

01:25:07.480 We're looking for somebody who will get things done in Washington that we want them to do.

01:25:12.640 We're looking for people who share our principles and values.

01:25:15.040 I'm looking for somebody to stand by the Constitution.

01:25:16.860 Yeah, please.

01:25:17.480 That's all I want.

01:25:18.000 That would be nice.

01:25:18.760 And Ted Cruz does that, and we all know it.

01:25:21.920 Even the Houston Chronicle, though, said that Cruz won this debate.

01:25:27.140 Now, they kind of claim that Beto was more likable, just as you just said.

01:25:31.720 But Cruz drew more blood, as they put it.

01:25:34.860 In this knife fight, Cruz drew more blood.

01:25:38.680 And there's a, we've got one other clip here about Beto talking about the unarmed black men.

01:25:43.200 The tragic shooting death of Botham Jean.

01:25:47.220 You have another unarmed black man killed in this country by law enforcement.

01:25:52.940 Now, no member of law enforcement wants that to happen.

01:25:55.260 No member of this community wants that to happen.

01:25:57.460 But we've got to do something better than what we've been doing so far.

01:26:00.540 If African Americans represent 13% of the population in this country, that they represent one-third of those who are shot by law enforcement, we have something wrong.

01:26:09.720 If we have the largest prison population on the face of the police.

01:26:13.060 So here's the amazing thing.

01:26:15.480 That wasn't an act of law enforcement.

01:26:17.940 It wasn't.

01:26:18.940 That was a woman who happened to work as a police officer coming home, being in the wrong place, and shooting somebody.

01:26:25.380 It's a strange story.

01:26:26.540 It is a strange story.

01:26:27.620 It's a bad story.

01:26:28.760 I don't think it looks good for her.

01:26:30.160 She's also been charged with manslaughter.

01:26:32.500 Right.

01:26:33.100 So it's not like she's getting away with it.

01:26:35.300 She's not getting away with it.

01:26:36.560 Right.

01:26:36.760 And it was not in her daily job.

01:26:40.520 I don't know what happened to her.

01:26:43.160 I don't know what was going on in her mind at that time.

01:26:45.960 She walks into an apartment.

01:26:48.960 She thinks it's her.

01:26:50.600 There's some guy.

01:26:51.720 She says, you know, stop talking.

01:26:54.120 Stop moving around.

01:26:54.860 What are you doing?

01:26:55.940 She pulls out her gun and shoots him.

01:26:57.380 That's that's that's horrible, horrible for for anybody.

01:27:02.940 But she wasn't acting as a police officer.

01:27:05.420 She was acting as a citizen at that point.

01:27:08.940 And and she was wrong and she should go to jail.

01:27:13.800 I mean, just based on what I hear, it does sound like manslaughter.

01:27:18.980 So she's being charged with manslaughter.

01:27:21.980 What else should we be doing?

01:27:23.600 That's exactly what should be happening.

01:27:33.360 I'm going to talk to you a little bit about cryptocurrency.

01:27:35.760 Tika Tiwari from the from the Palm Beach master course, the crypto master course.

01:27:42.280 He is he's a guy who we've been listening to about cryptocurrency.

01:27:46.080 And I have to tell you, I don't I don't know what's happening with the economy.

01:27:51.380 I mean, Pat, you just saw a story that I saw yesterday.

01:27:54.900 They're saying that in the next few months, they think the next recession is going to be a depression deeper than the Great Depression.

01:28:03.280 I think that's probably true.

01:28:05.820 I don't know what's going to I don't know what's going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

01:28:10.360 We're just in the longest period of recovery ever, and it's insanity what's happening.

01:28:15.440 And we're also in the biggest debt situation we've ever been in.

01:28:19.360 I don't mean just the country, you know, as a whole.

01:28:22.300 I mean, individually, individuals to Bitcoin.

01:28:26.560 They're talking now about the dollar just taking a free fall.

01:28:29.700 I don't know.

01:28:30.800 I have no idea.

01:28:31.640 But I do know this.

01:28:33.100 The dollar in 1964, 65 was for a $10 bill would buy you about $80 worth of stuff today.

01:28:43.140 $10 bill.

01:28:45.260 What happened?

01:28:46.780 We devalued our money.

01:28:48.900 That's that's a hidden tax.

01:28:51.920 Bitcoin.

01:28:52.860 I want you to find out all about Bitcoin.

01:28:55.440 I don't know what the future holds, but I think it's insanity for somebody to not have at least

01:29:00.820 a hundred dollars in Bitcoin.

01:29:02.880 But you need to learn about it first.

01:29:04.600 Go to smart crypto course dot com.

01:29:06.860 Find out about Bitcoin and blockchain and cryptocurrency in general to find out why this is a game changer.

01:29:14.060 877 PBL back 877 PBL back or go to smart crypto course dot com.

01:29:19.860 So going out on the road for the book tour, you can go to glenbeck.com slash tour or glenbeck.com

01:29:30.640 addicted to outrage and you can find the tour dates.

01:29:34.080 The 25th of October, I'm going to be in San Antonio.

01:29:38.700 Then the next night in Houston and the night after that here in Dallas at the Majestic Theater.

01:29:44.380 Get your tickets now.

01:29:45.500 You can find them at glenbeck.com slash tour.

01:29:48.080 But then we go to Richmond, Hershey, Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, Cleveland.

01:29:52.900 Excited to be up in Cleveland where I think they just found the next president of the United States.

01:29:57.340 Baker Mayfield.

01:29:58.000 I think so.

01:29:58.780 Yes, I think so.

01:29:59.780 Yes.

01:30:00.240 Was that not?

01:30:00.920 I mean, I'm not a sports fan.

01:30:02.460 That was incredible.

01:30:03.620 Oh, it's great.

01:30:04.240 That was incredible.

01:30:05.660 Except for those costumes that they wear.

01:30:08.200 I don't like their costume.

01:30:10.380 The uniform.

01:30:11.960 Yeah.

01:30:12.380 Yeah, sure.

01:30:12.820 Yeah.

01:30:13.460 Yes.

01:30:13.960 Those costumes.

01:30:14.960 Yeah, those costumes.

01:30:15.720 Anyway, that's November 4th in Cleveland.

01:30:18.140 We'll have costume talk, Cleveland.

01:30:20.500 November 13th, Kansas City.

01:30:22.520 November 14th, Evansville, Indiana.

01:30:24.580 Then Tulsa, Oklahoma.

01:30:26.160 Tampa, Florida.

01:30:27.560 And Orlando, Florida on December 1st.

01:30:30.640 We cannot wait to see you.

01:30:32.320 Make sure you get your tickets now at glenbeck.com slash tour.

01:30:36.620 You should come with us on the first leg.

01:30:40.080 All through Texas.

01:30:40.900 I think we're just going to do a bus.

01:30:42.040 Yeah, it'll be fun.

01:30:43.560 So you're just going to bus to San Antonio, then to Houston, then back to Dallas?

01:30:47.740 Yeah.

01:30:48.460 Yeah.

01:30:48.780 It'll be fun.

01:30:49.500 Yeah.

01:30:49.760 It'll be fun.

01:30:50.920 Texas is a great place to see a show.

01:30:53.360 And we invite you to come.

01:30:54.860 And it's going to be a lot of fun.

01:30:57.260 Join us.

01:30:57.800 If you've never seen one of our live shows, I haven't done one.

01:31:00.320 It's been a while.

01:31:01.160 Six, seven years, probably.

01:31:02.300 Probably longer than that, isn't it?

01:31:04.240 I don't think I did anything since.

01:31:06.180 Maybe 2010.

01:31:07.320 Yeah, maybe 2010.

01:31:08.560 So join us.

01:31:11.660 It will be interesting.

01:31:14.340 And by the way, my apologies.

01:31:16.480 My apologies to one man.

01:31:19.900 Because I know he is hounded everywhere he goes.

01:31:24.320 And everywhere, everywhere Colonel Sanders goes, they're like, he looks just like Glenn Beck.

01:31:31.200 And I feel sorry for him.

01:31:33.220 Yeah.

01:31:33.540 I feel sorry for him.

01:31:34.280 Yeah, I do apologies to Colonel Sanders.

01:31:36.720 Everywhere I go, I'm like, it's like Colonel, is that Colonel Sanders?

01:31:41.880 No.

01:31:42.680 No.

01:31:43.240 Colonel Sanders has been dead for a long time.

01:31:45.440 A long time.

01:31:46.300 I know that kind of, you know, we know that.

01:31:49.600 We thought maybe that was you.

01:31:54.140 All right.

01:31:56.520 We have still yet to come.

01:31:59.920 We have, I want to talk to you about the, some of the things that are happening all around

01:32:07.800 the country.

01:32:09.220 We, we, I want to, I want to show you how crazy the elections have gotten around the

01:32:15.460 country.

01:32:15.720 And I want to make one stop, uh, in Arizona with Dr. David Brill.

01:32:21.920 Have you, have you seen this story yet?

01:32:24.020 This is amazing.

01:32:25.440 Um, I think I have a different take on this than, than most people.

01:32:29.740 So he has six brothers and sisters, uh, Paul Gosar, who's running against Brill.

01:32:35.660 He has six brothers and sisters and this race or this, uh, this, this commercial opens up

01:32:43.300 with them saying, you know, he would care about healthcare if he wanted to really save

01:32:47.780 the country.

01:32:48.400 Oh, well, he'd take guns off the streets.

01:32:50.260 If he would really care about the country, he would do all these things.

01:32:52.800 And then they introduce themselves and they're all brothers and sisters of, of, uh, uh, Paul

01:32:58.300 Gosar.

01:32:59.560 Yeah.

01:33:00.060 And so it's a, it's a campaign ad for his opponent.

01:33:03.360 Yeah.

01:33:03.580 They're saying, don't vote for my brother.

01:33:04.840 Except if he's 10 siblings got together and did this, uh, campaign against him.

01:33:09.460 Now, mom has commented and mom says she is crushed by doing that, that these six have

01:33:15.400 done this, uh, to their brother.

01:33:17.940 Um, can you imagine that kind of shows how ugly things have gotten?

01:33:21.840 Doesn't it?

01:33:22.400 I think families turning against themselves.

01:33:24.480 Not since the night, 1860s.

01:33:26.180 Yeah.

01:33:26.760 I don't think this happened since the 1860s.

01:33:28.760 You know, you, you, you wonder how, you know, the, the civil war had people in, in families.

01:33:35.080 Some would fight with the North, some would fight with the South and they were killing

01:33:38.860 each, literally killing each other.

01:33:40.580 I don't think I've seen this since then, but I have a perspective on this that I, I want

01:33:47.120 to share with you because I think it actually backfires on Brill and I'd love to get your

01:33:51.740 thoughts on it next.

01:33:52.760 All right.

01:33:57.040 There is a, uh, there's an ad in Arizona that has come out against a, uh, Republican, Paul

01:34:04.140 Gosar, and it is a democratic ad and can we play the ad please?

01:34:10.960 I want you to listen, uh, carefully.

01:34:13.820 Paul Gosar, the Congressman, isn't doing anything to help rural America.

01:34:19.280 Paul's absolutely not working for his district.

01:34:21.520 If they care about healthcare, they care about their children's healthcare, they would hold

01:34:26.680 him to account.

01:34:27.620 If they care about jobs, they would hold him to account.

01:34:32.000 If he actually cared about people in rural Arizona, I bet he'd be fighting for social

01:34:37.620 security, for better access to healthcare.

01:34:40.680 I better he, I bet he would be researching what is the most insightful water policy to help

01:34:46.700 the environment of Arizona sustain itself and be successful.

01:34:51.740 And he's not listening to you and he's doesn't have your interests at heart.

01:34:55.820 My name is Tim Gosar.

01:34:57.000 David Gosar.

01:34:57.960 Grace Gosar.

01:34:58.760 Joan Gosar.

01:34:59.720 Gaston Gosar.

01:35:00.760 Jennifer Gosar.

01:35:01.820 Paul Gosar is my brother.

01:35:03.100 My brother.

01:35:03.740 And I endorse Dr. Brill.

01:35:05.340 Dr. Brill wholeheartedly endorse Dr. David Brill for Congress.

01:35:10.240 Jeez.

01:35:10.680 Jeez.

01:35:11.200 Ooh.

01:35:12.280 Wow.

01:35:14.500 What's your initial reaction?

01:35:18.840 It's ugliness.

01:35:20.560 It's, of course, it's the typical tactic that if he cared about things, he would go about

01:35:31.220 them exactly the way I think he should, rather than, there's another way to do this.

01:35:36.880 There's another way to care about people.

01:35:38.660 Right.

01:35:39.020 There's a completely different way, another path to our goals.

01:35:43.920 One of them, it was talking about the environment.

01:35:46.780 I mean, how many times have we heard this in our own families?

01:35:50.740 Somebody like that.

01:35:51.440 And she was talking about, you know, if he really cared about the environment in Arizona.

01:35:55.160 I don't think that that's Arizona that she's sitting in.

01:35:58.020 That looked an awful lot to me, like Colorado.

01:36:01.960 And so I don't, I don't, I don't think she was sitting in Arizona.

01:36:07.080 But beside the fact, I think this is going to play the opposite way.

01:36:15.640 Because I think maybe, maybe I'm old fashioned and I just don't know anymore.

01:36:22.940 I think there's a lot of us who have put up with this in our own family or our own in-laws

01:36:30.000 for quite some time.

01:36:32.100 You know, we all have either family or in-laws who are those pretentious, holier than thou

01:36:40.540 liberals that talk down to us, treat us like garbage.

01:36:46.440 I mean, I, I, I remember I had a, I had a situation in, uh, in, uh, in my in-law family

01:36:54.060 where, um, uh, it was during the Reagan administration.

01:36:58.260 So it was not your current in-law family.

01:37:00.840 No, no.

01:37:01.560 It's a previous in-law family.

01:37:02.740 And we don't need to go, we didn't need to go into this path.

01:37:04.580 Um, but, uh, it was during the Reagan administration and she was just going on and on and on and

01:37:14.080 on about Ronald Reagan and how evil he was and how could you vote for him?

01:37:18.960 And I'm, I'm, I'm trying to be nice.

01:37:20.800 And I'm like, look, you know, I got to the point where I said, you know, this is, this

01:37:24.500 is, this is my house.

01:37:26.420 Stop, stop right now.

01:37:28.180 You're a guest in my home.

01:37:30.380 Stop it right now.

01:37:32.400 No.

01:37:32.800 And I think people have been in those situations where, you know, the family disagrees and there's

01:37:40.040 this split and it's really sad.

01:37:43.460 And I, for one, this would make me want to vote for him.

01:37:48.080 Go, sir.

01:37:49.000 I would, I would actually look at that and go, Oh dear God, brother, you've got, I know

01:37:54.380 what your, I know what your whole life has been like.

01:37:56.840 Yeah.

01:37:57.080 I know what a nightmare your Thanksgiving gatherings must be.

01:37:59.960 Oh my gosh.

01:38:00.380 And the fact that mom came out and spoke against the siblings that, that did this.

01:38:06.180 Yeah.

01:38:06.560 I mean, when mom comes out and says, I'm ashamed and I'm heartbroken that they would do this.

01:38:13.020 That's saying something.

01:38:14.460 Yeah.

01:38:14.900 I mean, how can I hold them up to be, Oh, the great moral standard.

01:38:18.880 Really?

01:38:19.620 You've just broken your mother's heart.

01:38:21.520 Is there anything worse that you can do?

01:38:24.340 And he's handled it pretty well.

01:38:26.340 Actually.

01:38:26.880 You just said, you know, I love my brothers and sisters, but they're big anti-Trump people.

01:38:32.920 That's a pretty calm, pretty reason measured response to what they're doing to him.

01:38:37.960 When you put your, your politics over your family and over your mother, that is, I just, I don't

01:38:48.700 even know what to say.

01:38:50.080 My sisters don't all agree with everything that I say.

01:38:52.820 My one sister, she's a, you know, a hippie and she's not actually, but she doesn't, you

01:39:00.980 know, she doesn't agree with everything I say.

01:39:03.040 I don't agree with everything she says.

01:39:05.100 We get along, you know, and, and if we didn't, I, I can't imagine.

01:39:12.300 But if, if you ran for office, she certainly wouldn't campaign against you.

01:39:16.520 No, no.

01:39:18.300 It's one thing to say, look, you don't know my brother.

01:39:21.920 My brother is a hothead nightmare, whatever.

01:39:25.100 Yeah.

01:39:25.400 Okay.

01:39:25.700 My brother has secrets in his past and we as a family want to, you to know.

01:39:30.340 That's one thing.

01:39:31.160 That's one thing.

01:39:31.800 But when you just disagree ideologically, what difference than that's awful, what makes

01:39:36.160 your opinion more important, you're, you're playing on the family name.

01:39:42.400 That's just, that's just wrong.

01:39:44.820 Yeah.

01:39:45.460 It's wrong.

01:39:46.360 And I, I, again, I, I don't know.

01:39:49.320 I think that they are going to, uh, you think people will go the opposite direction because

01:39:56.640 of that ad.

01:39:57.780 It'll backfire on them.

01:39:59.240 You don't.

01:40:00.060 I don't know.

01:40:01.280 I, I don't know.

01:40:03.120 Things are so contentious and we're, we're such, you know, team choosers now.

01:40:07.520 And if you're on one team, you just can't, you can't support the other team no matter

01:40:12.880 what.

01:40:13.700 So I, I don't know.

01:40:14.900 I hope so.

01:40:15.640 So what's it going to be?

01:40:16.440 Somebody asked me this last week and they said, okay, so you're, you're, you're, your

01:40:20.580 thesis is that we're addicted to outrage.

01:40:22.880 Yes, we are.

01:40:23.460 And we're addicted to politics and we just can't, I mean, we'll betray our families.

01:40:29.540 We'll betray our families for our politics.

01:40:32.240 Um, there's no reason in that.

01:40:36.220 I mean, you know, that's just, that's just blind rage on what's, what's happening.

01:40:43.620 Um, and we both feel it.

01:40:45.180 They said, so what's the bottom because everybody has to hit a bottom.

01:40:50.060 And I said, I don't know.

01:40:52.540 I don't know.

01:40:54.100 I don't know what the bottom is because the bottom, the bottom that we're headed for is

01:40:59.300 a crash of biblical proportions.

01:41:01.680 You know?

01:41:02.360 Yeah.

01:41:02.560 It's this, it's this financial wreckage that is just going to leave all of us blind.

01:41:09.460 And when that happens, I don't think we wake up.

01:41:11.660 I think we go deeper.

01:41:12.640 I think we, I think we're, we are then the people saying, no, no, no, I need a handout.

01:41:18.700 I need, I need the government.

01:41:20.420 I need the government.

01:41:21.000 Oh, I think so too.

01:41:21.380 I don't think we, I think if we don't hit bottom before a crash, when we do crash, we

01:41:27.580 destroy it all.

01:41:29.660 And, you know, we're in this area of nastiness to each other.

01:41:32.980 Like, you know, over the weekend, you tweeted out a legitimate question to, uh, Alyssa Milano.

01:41:39.760 You asked her a genuine question and she came back with nothing but snarkiness.

01:41:44.860 They just, it can't.

01:41:45.980 Well, here's what, so, so she had, she had posted something along the lines that, uh,

01:41:51.380 let me see, here it is.

01:41:53.400 Uh, let me see if I can go back to her original tweet.

01:41:57.120 Because wasn't she, was, it was about the Kavanaugh thing, right?

01:42:00.260 Yeah.

01:42:00.520 And she said, you know, she fully believes him.

01:42:03.320 I fully believe the accuser.

01:42:05.340 Right.

01:42:05.540 I fully believe her.

01:42:06.780 I fully believe her.

01:42:07.680 Yeah.

01:42:07.860 And so I tweeted, why I asked this with all sincerity and do not wish to fight as I do

01:42:13.560 want the bad guys to go to jail and my daughters never to face this, but I don't want my son

01:42:19.100 or my daughters to live in a world without reason or evidence.

01:42:22.740 That world is why many innocent blacks have gone to prison.

01:42:27.120 That's great.

01:42:28.080 Reasonable.

01:42:28.600 What's wrong with that?

01:42:29.200 Yeah.

01:42:29.380 So she writes, so Glenn Beck, you want prison reform and an FBI investigation of Kavanaugh

01:42:35.440 starting to sound like a progressive.

01:42:37.560 Welcome to the resistance.

01:42:38.880 No, no, that's not what I said.

01:42:40.960 And you didn't answer the question.

01:42:43.020 So I wrote back, why respond to a sincere inquiry with a red meat response?

01:42:50.640 I do think prison reform is needed and I have for many years.

01:42:54.340 Please respond sincerely.

01:42:56.040 I am for, I should say, I am neither for or against Kavanaugh.

01:43:02.060 I am for truth, justice, and decency.

01:43:06.140 If the roles would reverse, would your position reverse as well?

01:43:11.200 The roles have reversed.

01:43:12.480 We've got a clear indication of that already with Keith Ellison.

01:43:16.800 They don't believe anything that the accuser says.

01:43:19.840 Five percent of Democrats believe the accuser in the case of Keith Ellison.

01:43:24.120 Why?

01:43:24.340 Because he's a Democrat.

01:43:26.040 Brett Kavanaugh is a Republican, so they wholeheartedly believe his accuser.

01:43:30.380 But she has, when it comes to Keith Ellison, she has evidence.

01:43:34.680 Yeah.

01:43:35.000 She has witnesses.

01:43:36.500 She has people that have corroborated what she has said.

01:43:38.860 Correct.

01:43:39.420 She has her, I think it's her son that has corroborated it.

01:43:43.280 She has text messages.

01:43:44.620 She has emails.

01:43:46.060 She has a video.

01:43:47.580 She has all of it.

01:43:48.920 Yeah.

01:43:49.680 And.

01:43:50.480 But they don't believe her at all.

01:43:51.700 They don't believe her.

01:43:52.480 And these two accusers have nothing.

01:43:54.960 I mean, it's just, it's.

01:43:56.640 It's amazing.

01:43:57.160 It's really hard to stay calm.

01:44:00.040 But we have to.

01:44:01.400 We have to be the reasonable ones where the others who are starting to wake up say, I don't

01:44:08.500 want to be with those people because those people are.

01:44:10.640 Those people are jerks.

01:44:12.060 Those people don't make any sense.

01:44:13.860 They're mean.

01:44:15.200 They're angry.

01:44:15.980 I want to be over with these people.

01:44:18.740 And I don't know how many people we can get.

01:44:21.400 But if you, if you don't, if we don't start to develop a group where decent people can gather,

01:44:31.220 be safe from all of this insanity, not slash each other's throat, not be about vindictiveness

01:44:38.200 and venom, but be about reason and truth and science.

01:44:43.280 If we can be those people, we're the ones who remain standing because the other two sides

01:44:49.800 will kill each other.

01:44:51.540 They'll kill each other.

01:44:53.100 And we will be the place that everyone will run to.

01:44:56.280 I'm anxious to see if Alyssa Bilotto can truthfully answer my question.

01:45:10.720 All right.

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01:47:04.060 Glenn Beck.

01:47:08.740 Look at this.

01:47:09.440 A response to my tweet from wake me up once is, once Trump has been impeached.

01:47:14.380 Well, you know, it's coming from, you know, from an open-minded source, right?

01:47:18.820 Yeah.

01:47:19.380 Melissa, uh, Milano, um, Glenn Beck is not for truth or justice.

01:47:24.100 A few minutes ago on his radio show, he just compared Brett Kavanaugh to Emmett Till.

01:47:28.520 Did I do that?

01:47:29.400 No, no, you did not.

01:47:30.700 I did not.

01:47:31.420 No.

01:47:31.780 Uh, that's disgusting.

01:47:32.700 A young black kid accused of rape and brutally killed because of racism and fear.

01:47:36.880 Not comparable.

01:47:37.680 Wait a minute.

01:47:38.320 Hold it.

01:47:39.840 Wait, I didn't compare and I don't compare, but you're saying Emmett Till, a young black

01:47:45.560 kid accused of rape and brutally killed because of racism and fear.

01:47:48.960 Well, this is a older white guy that is also being accused basically of rape and his career

01:47:56.020 is being killed.

01:47:57.360 Now, yes, it's not the same.

01:48:00.400 Um, um, and I'm not comparing them, but they're both accused of rape.

01:48:06.080 And in the Emmett Till, this is where I did draw the comparison.

01:48:10.860 Whenever we just listen to, uh, a, a popular voice or the voice that is convenient in this

01:48:20.980 case with Emmett Till, it was a white woman and the white woman was part of the power and

01:48:26.500 she was part of the, um, you know, um, uh, the system down in the South, they listen to

01:48:35.060 her.

01:48:36.540 Can you, do we have time Sarah to play Emmett, Emmett Till's mother?

01:48:39.880 This is what she said right after, um, they killed and they're, they're, they're trying

01:48:45.860 to find the, uh, the people that were responsible and the accuser, a white woman comes out and

01:48:51.940 says, he, he tried to touch me and he put his arms around my waist and, uh, and, and

01:48:57.780 said nasty things to me.

01:48:59.560 She, her mother, his mother said that wasn't true, but everyone was listening to the white

01:49:03.680 woman who had no evidence, just her word.

01:49:06.060 Listen to what Emmett Till's mother said.

01:49:08.980 It's my opinion that the guilt begins with Mrs. Bryant and I want to see Mrs. Bryant punished

01:49:15.560 her husband and any other persons that were in on this thing.

01:49:20.280 And I feel like the pressure should start from the president of the United States and be channeled

01:49:25.520 all the way down to the township of money, Mississippi.

01:49:28.980 And I'm certainly of the opinion that in as much as my son had to die, that I don't want

01:49:35.600 his death to be a vain thing.

01:49:38.120 If it can further the cause of freedom, then I will say that he died a hero.

01:49:43.320 Further the cause of freedom.

01:49:45.380 So what is she saying?

01:49:47.540 It would be, he would die then, uh, uh, a just death if he furthered the cause of freedom.

01:49:53.680 Well, if you want to see what further the cause of freedom, look at all of the facts, take

01:50:00.380 emotion out of it, take your own political agenda, no matter what it is out of it.

01:50:07.540 Look at the facts.

01:50:08.840 Don't just take one voice of an accuser and put more stock into that accuser's voice because

01:50:17.760 she's either saying the things that you like or want to hear, or she's standing up against

01:50:24.600 somebody that you don't like.

01:50:28.920 That's not justice.

01:50:31.560 If we are going to say that Emmett Till died for a reason, we must then look at facts of

01:50:38.940 every case.

01:50:41.020 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - September 24, 2018

'One Outrage at a Time'？ - 9⧸24⧸18

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