The Glenn Beck Program - Our Military’s Going Woke ｜ Guest： Ret. Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin ｜ 5⧸13⧸21

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00:01:08.740 Next, General Jerry Boykin and a very frank conversation.

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00:02:27.060 This guy has an incredible record of service to the country.

00:02:34.440 But he's been under attack really almost, what, since 2006 when Islamists targeted him.

00:02:43.960 And it still continues.

00:02:47.000 And when I say attack, I mean literally under attack as well.

00:02:52.260 He's one of the co-signers of the letter that I read to you yesterday in Hull from the Flag Officers for America.

00:03:02.280 It was a warning to Americans that you need to get involved in local politics.

00:03:08.500 You need to know what's going on in our country.

00:03:10.660 We talk to him at length about that in 60 seconds.

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00:04:29.740 This man was one of the original members of the U.S. Army's Delta Force.

00:04:39.060 He was privileged to ultimately command these elite warriors in combat operations.

00:04:45.740 Later, he commanded all the Army's Green Berets, as well as the Special Warfare Center and School.

00:04:53.640 He spent 36 years in the Army.

00:04:56.780 His last four years as the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence.

00:05:01.140 He's an ordained minister.

00:05:04.960 And he is the head now of the Family Research Council.

00:05:10.000 He is the Executive Vice President.

00:05:12.180 His name is Lieutenant General William Boykin.

00:05:17.460 General, how are you, sir?

00:05:19.360 Hey, Glenn.

00:05:20.160 I'm doing well.

00:05:20.940 How are you?

00:05:21.500 I'm good.

00:05:22.140 It's good to hear your voice.

00:05:23.700 Good to be with you.

00:05:24.480 I want to start with the letter that was released the other day from the Flag Officers for America.

00:05:31.900 Can you go into that, and especially for people who haven't heard it, go into the warnings and why you and others felt it was important to make these warnings?

00:05:42.960 Well, Glenn, we all took an oath to the Constitution of the United States, and we had no expiration date on that oath that we took.

00:05:55.160 Even though we took off the uniform, we all feel that it is still our responsibility to support and defend that Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

00:06:05.420 And so we felt that we had to do something.

00:06:10.500 This is a first step.

00:06:12.060 We don't know what the next step is going to be precisely, but we are in this for the long haul.

00:06:18.240 And as we wrote this letter, we tried to outline for not only the president himself, but for America, the things that we see that are jeopardizing in an existential way the future of our nation.

00:06:34.560 And it will, in fact, ultimately wind up in us not being a constitutional republic.

00:06:45.520 Now, we started out with voter integrity, and we made no claims directly that the president was illegitimate.

00:06:52.760 But what we did do is we did point out that both the court and the Congress just completely ignored the charges that were brought up in terms of the voter integrity.

00:07:07.760 And we clearly know that there were things within this election, like dead people voting and illegal people voting and people voting without identification and state legislatures changing their laws without going through the proper process.

00:07:25.480 So we point that out in here.

00:07:27.960 You know, I said, Jerry, to the former president, I don't know if there were where there was enough to sway the election that would have to be proven.

00:07:38.880 But you'll never convince me that this wasn't a very dirty election that may have gone the other way if we knew the truth.

00:07:51.040 Is that kind of where you're standing, where I don't know, but we have to have faith in our election?

00:07:58.260 We have to either prove or disprove it.

00:08:02.100 That is exactly where I stand personally, and I think this group as a whole, and that's basically what we say in the letter here.

00:08:10.800 There was voter fraud, no question about it.

00:08:13.720 Now, there's voter fraud in every election.

00:08:15.740 This year, though, if you look at the evidence that is verified evidence, there was a lot more voter fraud this time than we are aware of in previous elections.

00:08:29.540 And, you know, we just had a court ruling up in Michigan that the secretary of state up there violated the law in the voting process.

00:08:38.420 So whether there was enough fraud that it would have made a difference or not, we're not addressing that in this letter.

00:08:46.780 And I personally don't know the answer to that, just as you said.

00:08:51.460 But we know that there was some voter fraud.

00:08:54.560 There was irregularities there.

00:08:56.000 And what we were saying in this letter is that we have to have a system that people can have confidence in, that everyone is allowed to cast a vote, and that vote will be counted, and the will of the people will be served as a result of that election.

00:09:13.300 And we have to do that in order to maintain this constitutional republic.

00:09:19.220 And then we go on to talk to them about the way that our constitutional rights in many areas are being eroded right now.

00:09:29.460 Before we get into that, let me ask you, I really, I thought it was horrible when, you know, former prosecutors and, you know, at another time, you know, former generals and everything else came out against Donald Trump.

00:09:46.960 And when they did that, it was purely political, it felt to me, and I could see if I were for Joe Biden, I might look at this letter and say, you only are playing politics.

00:10:04.780 You're only saying this because it's Joe Biden.

00:10:09.060 Yeah.

00:10:11.000 Well, Joe Biden happens to be the president right now.

00:10:15.340 But what we are seeing is we are moving to becoming a Marxist nation and seeing the erosion of our liberties.

00:10:24.160 It doesn't matter who the president is or the vice president.

00:10:27.700 What matters to us is what we're seeing happen to our country.

00:10:32.420 And you cannot deny anymore, no longer can you deny that we are becoming a Marxist nation.

00:10:38.400 And that is something that obviously you and I both have taken a lot of flack for over the last four years as being, you know, we've been called racist, supremacist, supremacist, supremacist, yeah.

00:10:54.580 And we've been called conspiracy theorists and all kinds of things.

00:11:00.120 The reality is today we have openly Marxist organizations in the streets of America that no one is doing anything about.

00:11:09.820 But more importantly, we have them in our Congress.

00:11:12.280 We have sectors of our society that are being represented by Marxists, Marxists, hardcore Marxists.

00:11:21.600 And they call themselves democratic socialists.

00:11:26.060 Well, go back and study a little bit on what Marxism really is.

00:11:30.920 And there is no such thing as a democratic socialist to begin with.

00:11:35.440 That's a term that has been coined here.

00:11:39.220 But Glenn, we're seeing a Marxist movement here that goes all the way back to 1958 when the Communist Party USA wrote the Naked Communists

00:11:50.940 and told us exactly how they were going to take over America.

00:11:54.820 And a lot of what we address in this letter is exactly what was written in that book in 1958.

00:12:05.180 And we see it unfolding now at a very rapid rate, and we address it in here.

00:12:10.600 So if you're in the military now, you're the current General Boykin, and you're seeing what is happening to the country,

00:12:22.300 and you're seeing what's happening to the Pentagon, I mean, it's phenomenal.

00:12:27.820 When you have people now in solitary confinement, I think a violation of the Eighth Amendment for an extended period of time, at least,

00:12:38.040 in solitary confinement, and ramp up of the, I think, the lie that white supremacist is the greatest threat to our republic,

00:12:50.220 you're being sent a message, and the military is being looked at, and they're looking for enemies within.

00:12:59.700 If you are a flag officer now, Jerry, what would you be thinking?

00:13:06.220 You know, if I was a flag officer now, I think I would be probably ready to walk into whoever I reported to,

00:13:15.940 lay my stars on the table and say, I can no longer, in good conscience, be part of this, because of the oath that I took in 1970.

00:13:26.240 And our military today is being used as an experimental test bed.

00:13:33.600 You know, you can't change American society in a substantial way unless you change the military.

00:13:38.640 And I don't know, Glenn, if you've seen the latest recruiting video.

00:13:41.940 I have the cartoon.

00:13:44.360 Yeah.

00:13:44.900 Yeah.

00:13:45.420 I mean, it is so disturbing, especially when you think, what are our adversaries doing?

00:13:52.320 What kind of people are they recruiting?

00:13:55.080 And how are they pitching the opportunities associated with serving in the military?

00:14:00.600 And what they're doing is they're appealing to not only their patriotism, but their willingness to go out and put their lives on the line for the country that they love, the country they live in.

00:14:16.240 But, you know, here's what people don't understand if they haven't served.

00:14:21.440 You can give a soldier all the technology in the world.

00:14:24.640 You can give them everything that is available.

00:14:30.020 But there's nothing more important on that battlefield than the cohesion and the morale of those men and women that are out there fighting.

00:14:40.580 That cohesion, and I've written people up for the Medal of Honor and seen them in the White House get the Medal of Honor because they sacrificed their lives for the other members of their team. 0.98

00:14:55.780 Look, you don't get that by sitting people down in a classroom and saying, all of you guys over here that are white, you are oppressors. 0.95

00:15:05.580 All of you guys over here that are black, you are the oppressed, and they're the ones that have done that to you. 1.00

00:15:12.560 How do you build cohesion? 0.99

00:15:15.960 How do you build a strong team with that kind of nonsense?

00:15:19.220 And I think that is exactly the intent.

00:15:21.620 I mean, the intent of Marxism is to divide and conquer.

00:15:26.280 And the military was the one place that still people had faith in and was, you know, cohesive.

00:15:34.120 And it is being torn apart from the inside.

00:15:38.380 We'll continue our conversation with General Jerry Boykin in just a minute.

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00:17:25.300 Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin is with us.

00:17:29.240 And we were talking about the military, talking about how they're being divided.

00:17:35.680 When you, first of all, do you believe that white supremacy is the biggest threat to our nation?

00:17:43.520 I believe that the United States is going through the biggest con game that we've ever seen, certainly in my lifetime.

00:17:51.680 I'm sitting right here in my office right now, six blocks from the Capitol.

00:17:58.080 The Capitol is surrounded with concertina wire, the kind of things that we use in a battle zone.

00:18:06.220 And the White House has some as well.

00:18:08.200 And then you have these National Guard people out on the streets.

00:18:12.940 Glenn, they don't even have a weapon.

00:18:14.160 This is a con game.

00:18:16.640 This is a con to convince the American public that white people and those that are conservatives, 0.99

00:18:24.900 especially those that are conservative Christians, are the biggest threat to America. 1.00

00:18:31.240 They're a domestic threat. 1.00

00:18:32.460 They're domestic terrorists. 0.99

00:18:34.000 It's a con game.

00:18:35.260 There's no intelligence that validates or reinforces that.

00:18:40.900 Oh, you had two people testify on Capitol Hill yesterday that that's what the intelligence is saying.

00:18:48.260 That is absolutely not true.

00:18:53.120 It is, again, as part of this con game.

00:18:56.360 It is not true.

00:18:57.780 So what if you, again, are, first of all, does the military serve the president?

00:19:05.780 And I want to be careful on this question because I would say the same thing if Donald Trump or Ronald Reagan were in office

00:19:13.100 and I felt he was dismantling the Constitution of the United States.

00:19:20.520 I am not asking this about Joe Biden.

00:19:23.280 I'm asking this in general terms.

00:19:25.500 Does the military answer to the commander in chief or to the Constitution?

00:19:33.500 Well, the Constitution makes the president, in Article 2 of the Constitution, it makes the president the commander in chief.

00:19:41.880 So, yes.

00:19:43.820 The answer is yes.

00:19:46.420 They obey the orders of the president.

00:19:49.900 But when there is, when the president is clearly incapable of performing those duties, we have an article, I think it's Article 25,

00:20:02.820 that also allows for the removal by the Congress of the president.

00:20:07.540 Now, I'm not in any way advocating that while I'm disappointed in what I'm seeing here with Joe Biden's presidency,

00:20:17.240 I'm not advocating that he be removed.

00:20:20.540 But I will tell you that the military takes an oath to the Constitution,

00:20:27.140 but the commander in chief is the president, and they have to obey the orders of the president as long as they are legal orders.

00:20:38.520 You cannot obey an illegal order.

00:20:41.500 Now, I have never been confronted with that kind of thing, and I don't know that there's historically any situation where this has happened.

00:20:52.100 But, you know, people ask me before Joe Biden was inaugurated,

00:20:58.920 is the president going to declare martial law, or is he going to invoke the Insurrection Act?

00:21:04.840 And my response to them was, I hope not.

00:21:08.600 I cannot see a situation in which he would want to go down in history as the only president who refused to leave the White House

00:21:16.660 and called out the military to ensure that he didn't have to. 0.74

00:21:20.040 That is foolish, because you've got a tricameral government, you've got three branches,

00:21:25.700 and two of those branches, as far as I am concerned, in this election did not do their job. 0.97

00:21:30.280 And that is the Supreme Court and the Congress,

00:21:34.340 because I think they were more afraid of the likes of Antifa and Black Lives Matters and the Marxist movement in this country.

00:21:43.120 I think they were more afraid of them than they were focused on doing their jobs as not only a Supreme Court

00:21:51.340 with lifetime membership in that court, but also as people that were elected by the people to represent them.

00:22:00.280 Jerry, we have 40 seconds for you to answer this, then we'll come back for some more.

00:22:04.240 But what happened with the National Guard being called out, that didn't seem normal at all.

00:22:11.280 There was no mission or anything.

00:22:12.920 Was that normal? Was that right?

00:22:15.500 No, it was part of the con. It's part of the con.

00:22:17.620 Remember when Donald Trump offered the National Guard and they wouldn't, it was rejected.

00:22:23.720 In fact, the mayor of Washington ran them out of a hotel.

00:22:26.860 This was a con. This was all part of a con.

00:22:31.520 And it's still going on, and they're still on the streets.

00:22:34.180 Okay, I want to turn our conversation to what our allies and our enemies are thinking.

00:22:41.220 We can start with the hacker group DarkSide from, we believe, Russia,

00:22:47.700 and what is happening with that, and the president saying that's a private matter.

00:22:52.680 Here, we'll pick it up with General Boykin next.

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00:24:20.640 The former commander of all of the Army's Green Berets, as well as the Special Warfare Center and School.

00:24:38.040 Also Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence for his last four years, after 36 years in the Army and an ordained minister.

00:24:49.020 We are talking to Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin, also the Executive Vice President of the Family Research Council.

00:24:56.580 Gee, Jerry, I wish you would have done something with your life.

00:24:58.400 I want to turn our attention over to our enemies here for a second, because you do talk about this in that letter from the flag officers that you released yesterday or the day before.

00:25:14.220 We have the hit on the colonial pipeline.

00:25:18.680 We believe that Darkseid is from Russia.

00:25:23.180 I don't believe you do anything like this on this scale in Russia without Putin at least giving a nod or somebody saying, yeah, go ahead.

00:25:34.320 You can do that.

00:25:35.440 The president said that this was a private matter and colonial would have to decide whether they paid the ransom or not.

00:25:45.760 Huh.

00:25:46.960 I've I've I've I've I mean, maybe I've watched too many episodes of 24,

00:25:51.500 but I don't ever remember hearing a president say you can negotiate with terrorists.

00:25:57.880 And isn't this the federal government's primary job to protect business and people from from foreign attacks?

00:26:10.420 Yes, it is.

00:26:11.700 I came into the counterterrorism business when the Delta Force was created in 1978.

00:26:18.360 And one of the first things that they told us is we do not as a nation, we do not negotiate or pay ransom with terrorists.

00:26:28.740 And and now it is a shock to me to hear this from the president's administration.

00:26:35.240 But look, I will just tell you that this is an attack on our infrastructure.

00:26:41.620 Look at what this is doing to the east coast of the United States.

00:26:45.620 And and if that is not a significant attack on America, then I don't know exactly what what it is.

00:26:53.720 So I don't know you're an expert in these things.

00:26:55.640 But if it were directly tied to the Kremlin, wouldn't this be an act of war?

00:27:02.180 Oh, I think it would.

00:27:03.720 And it's and we have to get used to the fact that we are seeing war in a different way than what we have seen in the past.

00:27:15.420 We've got to look at cyber attacks as being part of an attack on America, you know, the facts, everybody.

00:27:23.780 It wasn't what three summers ago that Putin said, I don't know what I have to say to you.

00:27:29.040 You're you're European leaders.

00:27:30.500 He was talking to the press, but we're already in war and it's being fought with ones and zeros. 0.95

00:27:37.000 Yeah, he and he was he was absolutely on the mark.

00:27:41.780 He's spot on his prescient in that statement.

00:27:44.940 And it's sad that we haven't come to grips with that.

00:27:49.260 And we don't understand that yet as a nation.

00:27:51.520 We're still looking for tanks, you know, maneuvering on the battlefield before we're willing to call it a war.

00:27:56.780 No, we're at war.

00:27:58.120 And China is we're very much at war with China and have been for some time.

00:28:02.920 And look, we're at war with Iran and we're it's in some ways it's a secure surrogate war. 0.97

00:28:09.400 But, you know, we are fighting right now.

00:28:11.880 What you see in in in Jerusalem right now, what you see all over Israel right now is is largely sponsored by, supported by, funded by Iran.

00:28:25.040 They're right in the middle of this.

00:28:27.160 And we cannot ignore that.

00:28:29.220 And they're going after our closest ally, probably in the world.

00:28:33.940 Oh, are they?

00:28:35.140 Is Israel. 0.73

00:28:36.180 Are they anymore?

00:28:37.280 I mean, Jerry, I've never seen a time where we have been on the wrong side of almost every issue.

00:28:45.320 We are we are negotiating with with hackers.

00:28:50.220 We're negotiating with the terrorists in Iran.

00:28:53.960 We're standing by why Israel is attacked. 0.89

00:28:56.800 We are not doing anything about Russia.

00:29:00.520 China is walking all over us. 1.00

00:29:02.660 And our president's son still is taking paychecks from the Communist Party apparatus in China.

00:29:11.460 I mean, who are we?

00:29:15.580 What does the world think of us right now?

00:29:18.120 Look, I will tell you this.

00:29:19.820 This is my belief.

00:29:20.900 And I've said this on other programs.

00:29:22.400 I don't believe that we would see the events in Israel right now unfolding if Donald Trump was still the president of the United States, because I think he established that he was going to support Israel.

00:29:37.320 And think about this.

00:29:38.360 When he moved the embassy to Jerusalem, he was told by just about every one of his advisers, you're going to start a war and it's going to be bad.

00:29:50.500 Well, he moved it.

00:29:52.120 And how long did the did the did the rioting last there?

00:29:56.880 About 24 hours and it was over.

00:30:00.120 Now, now, why do we now have a situation where this is this is becoming very, very serious there?

00:30:08.160 And we've got probably well over 100 people that are killed.

00:30:12.920 And that that information is about 18 hours old right now.

00:30:18.100 And this would not have happened and it would not have gone on this long.

00:30:22.880 I think that Donald Trump would have immediately stepped out and said to the world, what can I give you, Israel?

00:30:30.260 What do you need?

00:30:31.660 Yes.

00:30:31.900 How can we help you protect yourself?

00:30:36.520 Because this is this whole thing is is, I think, a test of Joe Biden's leadership.

00:30:43.240 I think it's not only a test, but it is also a test of the loyalty of those Marxists in our in our own government as well, who are for all of this stuff.

00:30:54.880 Let me let me ask you about we now have a new number of 130 people.

00:31:01.900 Far more than what was previously known.

00:31:05.540 We haven't come out with the numbers with CIA.

00:31:08.120 They are supposed to be substantial as well.

00:31:10.740 But somebody has some sort of a ray that was first seen in Cuba.

00:31:17.700 It's now being seen in parts of the United States all around the world.

00:31:22.720 And it looks like it's tied to Russia.

00:31:26.000 Any idea on the the the ray gun or whatever it's called or whatever it is that is causing these brain injuries in our spies and diplomats and soldiers?

00:31:38.260 Well, first of all, this is not new technology.

00:31:41.000 And keep in mind, the Chinese have had technology that would actually take out our satellites. 0.98

00:31:47.560 They've had that for for some time.

00:31:49.960 And one of our big challenges has been trying to defend ourselves against that.

00:31:53.640 But I don't know the details of nor specifically where this is coming from.

00:31:58.780 But I guarantee you that this is not something that is being designed and and deployed by the evangelical Christians that are supposed to be the biggest domestic threat today. 0.99

00:32:16.940 So I don't know that I don't know where it's coming from.

00:32:20.980 But once again, somehow it will wind up being blamed on on the very people that that you and I represent.

00:32:28.500 Who do you what do you think of General Lloyd Austin?

00:32:32.100 Lloyd Austin, I've known him for a long time.

00:32:34.380 And Lloyd was a he lived next door to me at Fort Bragg.

00:32:37.860 And he was my he was a friend.

00:32:41.180 And I think Lloyd had a very distinguished career.

00:32:43.980 But I think that Lloyd was not prepared for the politics that he stepped into in Washington.

00:32:51.200 And as far as I am concerned, Lloyd has compromised on issues that he knows are not in the best interest of our nation.

00:32:59.440 And again, this this is where I say when you take time away from the training and the preparation for winning wars and you go through stuff like critical race theory,

00:33:13.980 you are wasting those soldiers times that they need to be ready to go prepare for war.

00:33:21.240 And Lloyd Austin is advocating that and pushing that.

00:33:25.240 And I think that's a huge mistake.

00:33:27.240 So I think he's wrong about that.

00:33:29.360 And I think he's gotten caught up in the politics of Washington.

00:33:32.180 And it has had a negative effect on him.

00:33:35.000 In your opinion, you said earlier that you would walk in and put your stars down on the desk and say, I can't serve this anymore.

00:33:43.460 In your opinion, the the brass of the military, not the not the the civil servants, but the the actual military.

00:33:56.060 What do you think the percentage is that is at least feeling like this is not right?

00:34:03.100 This is there's something very wrong here.

00:34:05.800 Oh, I think that they all know I'd say to the to every one of them knows that this is not in the best interest of the military to be off on this tangent that we're on right now and making it a test bed as well as wasting the time on on these nonsensical things like critical race theory.

00:34:30.100 I think every one of them knows that I think they all know that this is not helping our military.

00:34:36.440 But I think that you've got you've got some people in there that that are very much on the left side of the political spectrum who are enjoying seeing this happen in spite of the fact that they know that it's not doing anything to make our military more effective on the battlefield.

00:34:59.020 So does this just continue or do you expect to see people stand up?

00:35:05.800 I think you're going to see a quiet exit.

00:35:09.620 I think that's not helpful, is it?

00:35:12.280 No, a guy called me yesterday from Kuwait.

00:35:14.700 He said, I'm I'm over here.

00:35:16.100 He said, I'm he had he had read the letter and he called me and he said, I'm leaving.

00:35:21.160 He said, I can't take it anymore.

00:35:22.520 He said, I'm going to help get them out of Afghanistan here. 1.00

00:35:26.980 And then I'm done.

00:35:27.780 And he said, this is what what I am seeing in the military today is not what I signed up for.

00:35:33.500 And I am going to leave.

00:35:35.060 Well, I think you're going to see a lot more of that.

00:35:37.200 I think that the recruiting use that, you know, go back and look at this recruiting ad, this little cartoon recruiting ad that you and I talked about earlier.

00:35:45.340 And you ask yourself, who is that going to attract?

00:35:49.320 Who's going to who is going to be stimulated to want to serve with an ad like that?

00:35:55.100 And I think what you're going to see is not only a quiet exit, but I think you're going to see recruiting really become much more difficult in our military.

00:36:06.060 I think that moms and dads are not going to want Johnny and Janie.

00:36:10.620 Well, going into a military like I will tell you, my son has talked about, you know, possibly going into the military and I'm really torn.

00:36:22.220 I want good people in the military, but I am afraid of what they could easily become.

00:36:32.580 The military is so critical to this nation.

00:36:35.380 I mean, we wouldn't be a nation if it were not for the young men and women that have signed up as Isaiah did and said, here am I, send me.

00:36:45.400 But I have to tell you, I've got grandchildren now and I don't know what I'm going to tell them.

00:36:51.860 I don't want them in this army.

00:36:53.320 I don't want them serving under this commander in chief or under the chain of command in our military right now that is standing by and watching the destruction of our military.

00:37:05.420 This is a serious situation, and I'm with you, Clint.

00:37:09.840 I don't know what I'm going to tell them, and I spent 36 and a half years in the military.

00:37:14.000 Wow.

00:37:14.100 General, I just so love you, and I thank you for your service.

00:37:19.540 I thank you for your willingness to speak out.

00:37:22.960 I thank you for your willingness to speak the words of God as you understand them.

00:37:30.360 And I just think you're a very, very brave patriot, and I thank you for all of your service.

00:37:36.120 Well, that's very kind of you, Glenn, and I appreciate it, and I appreciate what you're doing and have been doing, and you've been doing this for a long time.

00:37:44.740 So to stay in the fight, we're going to ultimately, we're going to turn this around, but it's going to take all of us working together and being bold enough to not care what people say about us.

00:37:58.000 Yep.

00:37:58.420 And you're one of those people.

00:38:00.360 God bless you, Jerry.

00:38:01.260 Appreciate it.

00:38:01.960 Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin.

00:38:06.120 All right.

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00:39:22.260 Coming up next hour, we are going to talk about the economy.

00:39:30.320 What the hell happened to Elon Musk and Bitcoin yesterday?

00:39:34.040 What the...

00:39:34.600 What is he doing?

00:39:35.540 You forget sometimes that Elon Musk is not a conservative.

00:39:38.200 No, I know that.

00:39:38.960 I know that.

00:39:39.520 But he is somebody who has believed in blockchain and everything else.

00:39:42.960 He just came out and said he is going to stop taking Bitcoin at Tesla because of the environmental impact of mining.

00:39:55.460 That's over in, what, like five years?

00:39:57.720 In a few years, and the majority of it is done with renewable resources.

00:40:02.020 I mean, it's not even...

00:40:03.100 It's not a problem.

00:40:04.960 It's an inane argument that has been debunked a zillion times.

00:40:07.980 What did he do?

00:40:09.300 Why do you suppose he did that?

00:40:10.780 You forget that he is a guy who's building spaceships to escape global warming.

00:40:15.200 No, I know that.

00:40:16.100 And that is who he is.

00:40:17.840 He's going to believe the kind of environmentalist craziness at every turn.

00:40:22.880 He built his company on Bitcoin.

00:40:25.940 I mean, he...

00:40:28.600 Look, Tesla is an electric car company.

00:40:31.280 We forget because we think of it as a really good car company, and they make cool cars that go really fast.

00:40:36.460 And, you know, he makes spaceships, and he's an interesting guy, and he's been really interesting on a lot of things over the past few years.

00:40:44.120 But you've got to remember, this is his core.

00:40:46.120 His core is the craziest environmentalism you can imagine.

00:40:50.540 No, I mean, he is in with Al Gore.

00:40:53.520 He's just, instead of flying around on a jet, he's building a rocket and saying, I think we all should get off the planet.

00:40:59.900 And I'll say, like, he's doing it as a private business guy, and I'm fine.

00:41:04.700 No, I'm fine with it, too.

00:41:05.660 I don't agree with him on this stuff, but it's infuriating when he's, like, degrading a promising new currency that goes around the government because of environmentalist nonsense.

00:41:14.920 Dropped 12% since yesterday.

00:41:18.900 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:20.920 All right.

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00:42:55.920 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:02.900 Hello, America, and welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:06.340 Today, one of my least favorite people is Elon Musk.

00:43:10.580 Mainly because he just said, yeah, Tesla, because it's bad for the environment, it's not

00:43:16.820 going to be taking Bitcoin anymore.

00:43:18.540 Really, Elon, really?

00:43:20.920 So you're not going to make those rechargeable cars that are recharged on electricity because

00:43:30.580 the Bitcoin mining systems are powered by electricity?

00:43:36.080 Somebody to check his math on the Rockets because I think he might be smoking something.

00:43:44.060 I'm going to tell you why the world is flocking to Bitcoin or any other kind of currency, gold

00:43:53.440 or anything else.

00:43:54.180 Why is that happening?

00:43:56.840 Oh, you will understand in layman terms in 60 seconds.

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00:45:19.100 All right, I want to talk to you about inflation, but I'm going to try to break this down into

00:45:23.300 everyman terms.

00:45:25.080 And it's difficult, but when you understand it, it's not difficult at all.

00:45:31.720 And the answer has become very, very obvious on what we are to do.

00:45:36.920 Inflation is heating up all across the economy.

00:45:41.040 Mathematically, that is guaranteed to do that.

00:45:44.880 That is going to happen if you start printing money and pumping cash into the system.

00:45:49.580 Increases in the money flow always result in corresponding increase in prices.

00:45:58.920 Why?

00:45:59.740 Because they're more dollars chasing the same amount of goods.

00:46:04.320 And inflation is too many dollars chasing too few goods.

00:46:10.400 That's what makes the price go up.

00:46:13.240 Inflation.

00:46:13.840 Your average high school economic student can do this math, but somehow the PhDs at the

00:46:21.100 Fed can't.

00:46:22.500 The official inflation number now, as of yesterday, was 4.2%.

00:46:28.480 That was a lot more than the Fed was expecting, or anybody was expecting, less than what I was

00:46:34.600 expecting.

00:46:36.000 If you look at the old, we did this yesterday, if you look at the old index, if you look at

00:46:40.560 the way we used to model it, it's between 11 and 13%, or 8 and 13%, actually, if you look at the

00:46:48.760 number from the 90s.

00:46:49.820 But if you look at consumer inflation with more modernized index that measure real-world 2021 cost

00:46:58.240 of living, they are showing inflation sitting at closer to 12% for the month.

00:47:04.740 But these numbers mean nothing.

00:47:06.700 They only mean something to you when you go to the grocery store or you try to buy something.

00:47:11.260 Are you paying more or are you paying less?

00:47:13.620 Are we going in the right direction or the wrong direction?

00:47:17.520 The disturbing news here is if you look at the producer price index, this is the index that

00:47:24.360 predicts future consumer prices because the products to make products, you know what I mean?

00:47:31.620 The steel to make the cars or, you know, the widgets or the fertilizer or the alfalfa to

00:47:39.660 feed the cattle.

00:47:40.620 You look at those things and say, it's going to cost these people more, so they're going

00:47:44.240 to have to charge more at the end.

00:47:47.300 The producer price index shows the prices passed on to consumers in various ways is sitting

00:47:55.360 at 22%.

00:47:56.620 That's the inflation that is still yet to come.

00:48:04.340 The PPI measures commodities that companies have to pay to build and make stuff.

00:48:09.220 The commodities are not part of the consumer price index.

00:48:12.960 Copper, steel, aluminum, lumber, corn, cobalt, rubber, all of this stuff.

00:48:17.960 We know lumber is up nearly 400% in the last 12 months.

00:48:21.840 Copper is up 100%.

00:48:23.500 Well, you know, that's going to get much, much worse if we actually do fix infrastructure

00:48:28.500 and our electrical grids and everything else, because that's all copper.

00:48:32.100 When the United States government is going to buy billions and billions and billions of

00:48:36.420 copper, how do you think you're going to get the copper for your house?

00:48:40.140 Is it going to be up or down in price?

00:48:43.060 Corn is up over 100%, including 50% in just the last two months.

00:48:48.580 So if producer prices predict future consumer prices, the rapid inflation we're seeing in

00:48:55.840 consumer prices isn't just transitory, as the Bank of America called it.

00:49:01.340 And they're not saying it's transitory inflation.

00:49:03.420 They're saying it's transitory hyperinflation.

00:49:06.820 What's coming our way will be with us, maybe if we're lucky, for months.

00:49:14.200 It could be years.

00:49:16.080 And I'll explain why.

00:49:18.420 The Fed says it will be temporary and it's going away.

00:49:22.660 But given the trillions of dollars they flooded into the economy, it would be sometime before

00:49:27.740 all that currency sloshing around can be sucked up.

00:49:30.380 So how do you fix inflation?

00:49:33.820 How do you why?

00:49:35.240 This was the charter of the Fed to ensure the money supply, the full faith in credit and

00:49:43.680 to keep inflation under control.

00:49:46.200 Right.

00:49:48.120 OK, so they have two weapons you can fight inflation with.

00:49:51.960 The first it's a wad.

00:49:54.200 The Fed is already shot.

00:49:55.920 It can restrict the currency supply.

00:49:59.440 The classic definition of inflation is the increase in the currency supply that drives

00:50:05.800 an increase in the prices of goods and services because people now have money.

00:50:09.940 They go out and buy things.

00:50:12.140 So in reverse, a decrease in the currency supply must inherently cause a decrease in the price

00:50:19.060 of goods and services.

00:50:20.960 That only makes sense.

00:50:22.760 That's the way it's done.

00:50:24.200 There are two ways.

00:50:25.920 OK, in this case, between Uncle Sam and Uncle Fed, 12 trillion dollars in covid stimulus

00:50:35.800 funds have already been released into the economy.

00:50:38.760 The currency is already out there, so you can't restrict the currency because it's already

00:50:44.440 out the door, gang, already driving up prices, already burning holes in the pockets of banks

00:50:49.580 and megacorporations that are busy buying back their stock and paying bonuses to brokers.

00:50:55.040 Now, the other major policy tool the Fed has to fight inflation is interest rates.

00:51:01.800 This one gets really interesting fast.

00:51:04.660 How do you suck all of that money back in the Fed loans banks money and they say it's five percent

00:51:16.280 interest?

00:51:16.740 So the bank has to pay the Fed five percent interest.

00:51:21.300 What the Fed does with that five percent, they don't treat it as a profit.

00:51:25.340 They burn it.

00:51:26.400 OK, that's what brings the money supply down.

00:51:30.580 Imagine how much burning would have to go on for this in the 1970s.

00:51:35.660 Paul Volcker, who is not a popular guy at the time, was some.

00:51:39.280 He staved off inflation rates of 14 percent a month by raising the federal funds borrowing rate

00:51:46.240 to 17 percent to 17 percent.

00:51:48.960 So the Fed said to the banks, you want to borrow money?

00:51:53.400 It's 17 percent.

00:51:56.860 Then banks would add another three percent of profit on top of that.

00:52:01.940 So you're looking at almost a mob loan.

00:52:04.800 And it almost stopped the heart of the economy, but it pulled all that cash back.

00:52:12.200 OK.

00:52:15.220 By the time Reagan won the election in 1980, inflation had dropped from 14 percent to 4.3.

00:52:22.040 All you have to do is raise the interest rates.

00:52:25.360 OK.

00:52:27.120 Here's why the Fed can't do that.

00:52:29.380 They're saying we're not going to do this for probably a couple of years because we got

00:52:32.780 to see that.

00:52:33.520 No, no, they're never going to do it.

00:52:34.800 They're never going to do it.

00:52:36.500 Here's why.

00:52:38.740 Rock meet hard place.

00:52:41.700 When Volcker raised the interest rates to 17 percent, making it really expensive for anybody

00:52:47.640 to borrow money, the U.S. federal debt was just below 700 billion dollars.

00:52:55.640 We owed less than a trillion dollars.

00:53:00.840 GDP ratio, 33 percent.

00:53:03.640 Today, our U.S. federal debt is 28.4 trillion dollars.

00:53:11.660 That's today.

00:53:12.780 That's not including all of the stimulus and everything else that the Fed has done.

00:53:16.900 28.4 trillion dollars, our debt to GDP ratio sits at 130 percent.

00:53:23.800 Oh, by the way, that debt and debt to GDP, both all time highs.

00:53:31.040 And there are both all time highs before the Biden-Harris COVID bailouts and green new infrastructure part one, part two.

00:53:41.780 By year's end, estimates point to around 31 trillion dollars in debt and 135 percent debt to GDP.

00:53:50.160 So why am I talking about any of this?

00:53:51.940 Let me go back to Volcker in the 1980s when he raised interest rates to 17 percent.

00:53:57.180 It would be the death knell of the United States of America.

00:54:02.520 Today, we have over 28 trillion dollars in debt.

00:54:04.740 That debt is made up of various types of interest-bearing bonds.

00:54:08.740 They're short-term bonds.

00:54:10.980 When people buy them, you know, you get an interest rate.

00:54:14.720 We're borrowing money from people.

00:54:16.600 And it's like we have an adjustable rate.

00:54:18.940 That's what you have to understand.

00:54:20.740 When interest rates go up, you don't want an adjustable rate.

00:54:24.460 You want to lock your mortgage into that low rate, right?

00:54:28.000 Our loans aren't locked in.

00:54:29.840 They're adjustable, kind of, because we are constantly borrowing to keep that going.

00:54:38.260 So when they raise interest rates, you get into something called the cost of servicing the debt.

00:54:46.600 I love that.

00:54:48.180 The cost of servicing the debt is going to go up.

00:54:51.120 What does that mean?

00:54:53.000 That means run like you're running from the gates of hell now.

00:54:59.600 The interest paid out to the bondholders is based on the federal fund's borrowing rate.

00:55:05.120 So if the Fed increases the cost of borrowing, the cost goes up for Uncle Sam as well.

00:55:09.920 So the interest the government has to pay out against all of this debt increases every time

00:55:15.940 the Fed raises the interest rates.

00:55:19.280 When U.S. debt was low, higher interest rates were painful but not deadly.

00:55:24.080 But when we're closing in on $30 trillion and deficits projected in the $2 to $3 trillion

00:55:29.680 a year for the next five years, the cost of servicing that is going to outpace our ability

00:55:37.620 to pay for it.

00:55:39.320 Current debt, $28 trillion round numbers.

00:55:41.700 Currently, the Federal Reserve funds rate is 1%.

00:55:45.020 And on average, U.S. bonds across all types pay an average of just under 2% in profit to

00:55:51.800 anybody who took that we borrowed that money from.

00:55:55.000 So you get 1.8%.

00:55:56.840 So the current cost of servicing $28 trillion in debt at 1.8% is $504 billion every year in

00:56:08.240 interest.

00:56:10.640 $504 billion.

00:56:13.480 So out of the total U.S. budget every year, this year, $3.2 trillion, $504 billion of that

00:56:21.740 is just to pay interest.

00:56:24.940 Already insanely high.

00:56:26.620 That's insane.

00:56:27.600 And that's 1.8%.

00:56:28.940 You want to guess what U.S. bonds paid out in 1977 when Volcker spiked the Fed fund rate

00:56:34.700 to 17%?

00:56:35.880 You want to guess what that is?

00:56:38.300 U.S. bonds paid an average of 7.99%.

00:56:42.120 That is 444% higher than it is today.

00:56:46.740 So let's do the math.

00:56:47.760 If the cost of the government to pay interest on the debt was 7.99% against a debt of today,

00:56:56.280 $28 trillion, the annual debt servicing cost, just the interest, $2.2 trillion.

00:57:06.720 Our entire budget is $3.2 trillion now.

00:57:13.500 And they say there's no cookies in the counter that we can get rid of.

00:57:17.420 There's nothing.

00:57:18.180 It's all bare.

00:57:20.600 Just the interest is $2.2 trillion.

00:57:26.500 That means 3.2 that is supposed to cover everything.

00:57:29.840 Roads, bridges, military, courts, national parks, Social Security, Medicare, Obamacare.

00:57:34.680 The interest due on the debt matched in 1977, nearly 70% of every dollar the government takes

00:57:43.680 in would be going to pay interest.

00:57:48.240 That's why they're never going to raise the rates.

00:57:51.140 Because they can't raise the rates.

00:57:54.440 The only weapon left to fight inflation is to raise interest rates.

00:57:59.160 But raising interest rates would put the government into a death spiral.

00:58:05.660 Deficits don't matter.

00:58:07.120 We've heard it from the right and the left.

00:58:08.880 Yes, they do.

00:58:11.980 Especially when you look at the interest that you have to pay.

00:58:18.980 I know there are people that have adjustable mortgages.

00:58:23.540 You've got to get out of the adjustable mortgage.

00:58:25.680 If you have an adjustable mortgage, you're screwed if they would ever raise the rates.

00:58:31.280 You could lose your house because all of a sudden your payment,

00:58:34.680 goes from $500 to $800 a month because you're paying more interest.

00:58:40.640 We're about to lose the house, gang.

00:58:44.480 That's why all of this is happening now.

00:58:47.120 They're spending like there's no tomorrow because there is no tomorrow for the dollar.

00:58:52.740 Keep your powder dry.

00:58:57.340 They say the government's never defaulted on debts.

00:59:01.280 I think after last year and just the beginning of this year, I would swear off the word never.

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01:00:16.360 Maybe tomorrow I'll get into forbearance, because that's what we're—people don't know what that word means, but that is—

01:00:34.480 I mean, you want to talk about a sexy tease for tomorrow's show?

01:00:37.360 Tomorrow, forbearance.

01:00:39.820 Buckle up, everybody.

01:00:41.260 Pretend you don't know what it is, and guess what you think it is.

01:00:44.840 Oh, my gosh.

01:00:46.580 I mean, passion, sexiness, excitement.

01:00:50.580 Yes, it is.

01:00:51.300 It's a titillating topic.

01:00:52.480 Yeah.

01:00:52.780 The forbearance world.

01:00:53.560 For us older folks, it's as exciting as Dynasty used to be.

01:00:57.520 I'll say, when you're talking—the interest thing is really a big problem, because it's like—it's one thing for us to complain about spending money, right?

01:01:08.060 We can all sit here and say, well, we should have this program.

01:01:10.900 We shouldn't have this program.

01:01:12.480 This is money.

01:01:13.860 We're just spending on essentially nothing, right?

01:01:17.660 Nothing.

01:01:17.940 It's just the right to borrow money we've already spent, right?

01:01:21.780 And if we have that money, which is constantly turning over, and those rates change, we will wind up spending the cost of, like, a new Joe Biden program.

01:01:33.400 This is why.

01:01:34.040 You're just on nothing.

01:01:35.440 You're right.

01:01:35.940 And you ready for this?

01:01:36.980 This is why Greece went into revolution.

01:01:42.200 This is why America will go into revolution if this continues, because the only solution is to pay that debt.

01:01:50.600 You have to pay that at some point.

01:01:52.580 You have to pay that interest rate.

01:01:54.180 So when you are asked to pay that interest rate, what does the government do?

01:01:57.780 They have to cut back on all of the things that they've just convinced you was a right.

01:02:04.240 And then they have to raise taxes.

01:02:06.980 But because nobody has any money, nobody can pay taxes.

01:02:10.500 Because businesses go out of business because nobody's spending money.

01:02:14.660 This is how you become Venezuela. 0.58

01:02:17.220 Every time, every time somebody goes down this path, this is the path that leads to Venezuela.

01:02:25.880 And we got to stop.

01:02:27.340 We have to stop.

01:02:30.480 We should, you know, why the government didn't buy Bitcoin?

01:02:35.080 Why we didn't spend a million dollars five years ago on Bitcoin?

01:02:43.120 Could have had our debt paid off.

01:02:45.440 Okay.

01:02:46.200 Why we didn't do that?

01:02:47.480 Why we're not buying gold?

01:02:49.060 You know what Russia and China are doing?

01:02:51.760 They're selling bonds and buying gold.

01:02:55.100 What are we doing?

01:02:56.280 You just think of the waste mismanagement and missing money that is going to happen with 19 trillion dollars that has been spent in the last 12 months.

01:03:12.160 There's no accounting firm in the world.

01:03:15.340 Yes, even the ones that guard the coveted envelopes for the Oscars.

01:03:19.940 There's not an accounting firm in the world that could track 19 trillion dollars without a system.

01:03:27.440 It's just, oh, you know what?

01:03:29.080 Hey, I found 19 trillion dollars in the couch.

01:03:31.940 I'm going to give it to people.

01:03:33.140 Uh, no, no.

01:03:36.760 What are we doing?

01:03:38.080 We're enslaving ourselves, driving our country towards Venezuela and enslaving our children for generations to come. 1.00

01:03:46.140 To who?

01:03:47.660 The Chinese? 0.97

01:03:49.400 Think we're going to stand up to the Chinese when we don't have any money and a lot of money is owed to them? 1.00

01:03:57.100 You think you're going to keep that cute national park, California?

01:04:03.840 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:04:07.120 Stu and I were talking this morning.

01:04:09.100 Feels like this is the top of things.

01:04:11.780 Uh, and it's only downhill from here.

01:04:13.820 Uh, he said, I'm thinking about selling my house.

01:04:16.600 And I said, yeah, you know, I'm thinking about it last couple of days to looking at this.

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01:04:23.720 It's frightening.

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01:05:42.200 The first hour was riveting with Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin, former commander of all special forces in the United States.

01:05:52.400 We had a frank conversation about the letter from the flagged officers of the United States and the trouble that we are in.

01:06:03.200 It is a little terrifying, but information that you need to know.

01:06:09.220 Well, I'll tell you what, Glenn.

01:06:10.720 I just I'm very disappointed in you for you just holding out on the people.

01:06:16.900 You're just like you get to get them all excited with that forbearance talk.

01:06:20.340 And then you're like, oh, we're going to bring that to you tomorrow.

01:06:23.180 I mean, people are on the edge of their seat.

01:06:25.280 I'll tell you what forbearance is.

01:06:26.780 People are on the edge of their seat.

01:06:28.180 They want to know about forbearance. 1.00

01:06:30.780 So shut up. 1.00

01:06:31.780 Shut up. 1.00

01:06:32.340 I just I just talked about the interest rate and why the Fed is lying to you. 0.99

01:06:37.920 And they say, we just don't think it's time to raise interest rates.

01:06:40.220 They're never going to raise interest rates.

01:06:41.780 They can't raise interest rates.

01:06:43.520 Not to those levels.

01:06:44.300 I mean, they're probably raised them.

01:06:45.520 Right.

01:06:45.700 I mean, they're just not going to raise maybe to 18 percent, which is the only way to stop inflation.

01:06:50.580 Right.

01:06:50.960 I mean, this kind of inflation that is coming.

01:06:52.780 But the other shoe to drop is the forbearance shoe.

01:06:58.400 And I know it sounds super sexy, but actually it is.

01:07:02.640 It's really important.

01:07:03.660 And once you get past the fancy terms, you realize.

01:07:09.400 Holy cow. 0.89

01:07:10.520 What?

01:07:11.360 Let me explain this in a way Stu will understand.

01:07:13.860 You know, when, you know, you're all hot and bothered and then you're and your wife says, not now.

01:07:22.620 Yes, I do know.

01:07:23.740 OK, good.

01:07:24.500 That's forbearance.

01:07:25.620 OK.

01:07:27.820 She's just saying not now.

01:07:29.940 But that, you know, does that mean not ever?

01:07:32.600 I never have to pay.

01:07:33.640 No, no.

01:07:34.380 OK, so forbearance forbearance is the is the idea that you don't have to pay things right now.

01:07:44.820 And that's when the the first covid bill came in and said, you don't have to you don't have to pay this.

01:07:52.620 It was the first cares act.

01:07:55.460 It passed overwhelmingly with Congress.

01:07:57.140 It was signed into law by Donald Trump, and it allowed the federal agencies to extend forbearance to homeowners.

01:08:05.060 Now, when you heard if you were impacted by covid-19 and the Federal Reserve Bank and the government lending programs and Uncle Sam said, you don't have to worry about that.

01:08:18.680 Nobody's going to be evicted.

01:08:20.080 What did you think that meant?

01:08:27.140 I mean, it seemed like it was a temporary thing, I guess.

01:08:31.640 Right.

01:08:31.900 Right.

01:08:32.240 Like you.

01:08:32.700 So you had extra money that month.

01:08:34.500 You have extra money.

01:08:35.380 So you can you can.

01:08:36.820 I mean, you can't be thrown out of the streets.

01:08:38.080 There's a pandemic going on.

01:08:39.460 Correct.

01:08:39.480 Correct.

01:08:39.880 So what happens to the money that you didn't pay for 12 to 18 months?

01:08:47.420 What happens to it?

01:08:48.720 I mean, is it just called off?

01:08:52.480 Remember the definition of forbearance, Stu and Lisa.

01:08:55.900 Just not right now.

01:08:57.620 Not now.

01:08:58.940 So you have to come back and pay all that.

01:09:00.520 You have to pay.

01:09:01.860 Now, listen, if that's true.

01:09:03.300 Jeez.

01:09:03.760 Yes, that's true.

01:09:05.400 There's no one's going to be able to do that.

01:09:07.380 Yeah.

01:09:08.140 Yeah.

01:09:08.480 Well, Bank of America estimated that through March of 2022, 22 percent of its loan portfolio had gone through some form of loan modification or forbearance.

01:09:19.160 So 22 percent of Bank of America.

01:09:21.360 That number is a lot, lot higher.

01:09:26.320 Here's the thing.

01:09:27.640 The federal court just said government didn't have a right to do that.

01:09:31.600 You can't do that.

01:09:32.360 So now they've called off forbearance.

01:09:34.580 OK, I want you to I want you to understand what all of this means in the original CARES Act.

01:09:40.960 The government, via funding lending programs through the government, the Federal Reserve Bank, took on 70 percent of all U.S. mortgages, including nearly 90 percent of new mortgages to low income areas of the country since 2009.

01:10:03.060 So 70 percent of the mortgages are experiencing some sort of forbearance, depending on the type of lending program you use to fund the mortgages.

01:10:14.980 And the United States government is now on the hook for it.

01:10:20.280 So if you can't pay your debt, that's going to be a problem.

01:10:26.600 I mean, if you really look at this and you look at the worst case scenario, this is how you don't own anything and you'll like it.

01:10:33.060 Because the government will now own your house.

01:10:36.040 The Federal Reserve will now own your house.

01:10:38.520 The bank will now own your house.

01:10:40.820 Let me explain forbearance.

01:10:43.840 In short, you're eligible to stop making monthly payments during the forbearance period.

01:10:49.920 In the case of the government's back mortgages during covid, that meant you could miss 18 to 24 months worth of mortgage payments.

01:10:57.560 But what you have to understand is, and this seems like not so bad, every payment missed is added to the end of the loan.

01:11:07.140 So if you miss 12 payments, a 30 year mortgage becomes a 31 year mortgage.

01:11:12.380 But you're also having to pay the interest.

01:11:14.880 So a 31 year mortgage, because of the interest, is probably going to be a 32 year mortgage.

01:11:22.160 Sounds still OK, right?

01:11:26.180 Not so much.

01:11:27.860 Not so much.

01:11:29.360 Forbearance isn't a free pass to live anywhere you want without mortgage or without consequence.

01:11:35.560 Here is the consequence.

01:11:36.860 And it's not the 31 or 32 year mortgage.

01:11:42.340 If you try to sell your home.

01:11:46.540 Any missed payment during the forbearance period has to be made whole before the title will be released.

01:11:54.260 So if you missed 18 payments of $1,800 each, you'll have to come up with $32,000 in cash.

01:12:05.460 To pay the forbearance to be able to sell your home.

01:12:12.480 Because you owe that.

01:12:14.860 Oh, here's the here's the other thing.

01:12:17.340 Because you're in arrears, it doesn't say on anybody's credit application, oh, it's forbearance.

01:12:25.480 It says you are delinquent with 18 months of loans.

01:12:30.800 Do you know what that's going to do to the average credit score?

01:12:38.620 Banks are already going to be hesitant to lend anybody loans in the future because of this crunch that is coming.

01:12:46.440 You have to have great credit.

01:12:49.420 If you've been participating in forbearance, you are going to have delinquencies on your credit score, which will cost your credit card.

01:12:59.220 It will go up in interest.

01:13:01.080 And if you can get a loan, you're going to be paying a higher interest rate because you've been delinquent.

01:13:07.380 Even if you sell your house and pay it off right now, it will still be marked delinquent.

01:13:14.120 So it's a good thing I'm renting, right?

01:13:17.440 Oh, yeah, not so much.

01:13:22.020 Here's the mistake that millions of renters made millions of times over.

01:13:28.760 You're not forced to pay rent and landlords aren't allowed to charge late fees.

01:13:33.540 Rent continues to accrue during the months you missed.

01:13:36.420 Okay, no big deal.

01:13:39.320 I'm going to live the high life.

01:13:40.480 Well, now that the federal court has ruled the CDC has no power to issue any kind of eviction moratoriums.

01:13:50.480 Renters are due for a rude awakening. 0.98

01:13:54.740 If you started missing rental payments in, say, June of last year, as the moratorium is lifted, millions of renters may find out that they have to start making payments again.

01:14:07.800 But they also have to make up for the money they missed.

01:14:13.060 When the dust settles for COVID-19, renters who end up evicted will find their long-term credit negatively impact.

01:14:22.960 In fact, they won't be able to fill out in financial form for the next apartment they're trying to rent.

01:14:31.540 Because they owe all of this money and they didn't pay their last bills on time all during COVID.

01:14:41.300 Now, it's going to take a very understanding apartment complex or a very understanding bank, and they have such a heart, to say, oh, it was COVID, not a big deal.

01:14:54.880 So, as America begins to reopen, as vaccines are administered, as America's shuttered businesses get permission to have patrons again, let's take stock and remember that once the virus is gone, the impact, the pandemic, the economic, the social, spiritual impact that this has remains.

01:15:21.580 Just unpacking the U.S. mortgage and rental industries could take years and still cost homeowners, renters, landlords billions in cost, both those you hear about on CNN, but also the cost of higher interest rates due to lower credit scores, having to choose to live in a less safe neighborhood with a longer commute because your rental history shows eviction.

01:15:51.580 There are consequences to everything the government does.

01:15:56.080 When they say free money, it's never free, as millions of Americans will begin to understand as America opens back up for business.

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01:17:36.340 That's some bad news for fans and voters of President Miles.

01:17:46.740 President Miles, Stu's dog, who's older in looks than the president, but in activity and actual dog years, I think is much younger.

01:17:58.300 He's what, 17, 16 years old.

01:18:02.380 He's going to the vet today.

01:18:04.400 He's having another issue.

01:18:06.360 I think we should start laying money down on who's going to serve their full four-year term, President Miles or President Biden, which is the first?

01:18:15.360 Oh, God, I don't want to think about this, but I'm not optimistic on a four-year term on Miles.

01:18:19.200 Have you had Miles for all 17 years or 16 years?

01:18:23.760 Yeah, we had him as a little tiny puppy.

01:18:25.480 Oh.

01:18:26.460 So he's been around.

01:18:27.260 Have you lost one like this?

01:18:28.820 Yeah, we had Phoebe.

01:18:29.840 Oh, that's right, Phoebe.

01:18:30.940 Phoebe was also 17, I think, when she died.

01:18:34.060 Another pug.

01:18:35.020 We lose all of ours around 11.

01:18:37.940 Yeah, but that's because your dogs are like, you know, attack Dirt Journey Shepherds dog.

01:18:43.340 They're supposed to, they don't usually last much longer than that, right?

01:18:45.760 That's pretty long for a Dirt Journey Shepherds.

01:18:46.500 Yeah, that's long for them.

01:18:47.620 They've actually lasted long.

01:18:48.780 I've always heard that pugs don't last for a particularly long time, but man, we've had...

01:18:53.720 I mean, how could you after you ran into the sliding glass window over and over again to make your face look like that?

01:19:00.720 I was watching that Will Ferrell movie, The Campaign.

01:19:03.240 Have you ever seen that?

01:19:04.260 Oh.

01:19:04.840 It's underrated.

01:19:05.500 I think it's a freaking funny movie, but it's just about like a congressional...

01:19:10.900 It's Zach Galifianakis and Will Ferrell in a movie about a campaign in a congressional district.

01:19:17.520 But one of the things, they have really bad attack ads at each other the whole time, and they keep saying like...

01:19:22.780 And, you know, I think his last name is Huggins or something like that.

01:19:26.120 Huggins, Huggins dogs are Chinese dogs and they're pugs.

01:19:30.700 Like, half the movie's about pugs.

01:19:32.280 I don't know, maybe that's why I like it.

01:19:33.160 So, it's a solid movie, though. 0.87

01:19:34.740 And they are Chinese dogs. 0.95

01:19:36.620 So, yes, do I have...

01:19:38.560 I mean, is it possible that we have, you know, a situation with an undercover Chinese spy as president for President Miles?

01:19:48.380 I mean, I think it's quite clear that there's... 0.94

01:19:50.940 Is he sleeping with a Chinese dog?

01:19:53.160 He's sleeping a lot.

01:19:54.560 Is his secretary Chinese?

01:19:57.520 Has he done any deals with Chinese banks?

01:20:00.020 Oh, no.

01:20:00.900 God, I always keep him away from...

01:20:03.020 From fighting deals.

01:20:06.200 Fang Fang would be an okay name for a dog.

01:20:09.180 It could be President Fang Fang.

01:20:10.800 Yeah, it could be.

01:20:11.480 That could be around the corner.

01:20:12.780 But for a real person that you're dating, I don't think so.

01:20:17.600 I do.

01:20:17.940 I think all of my friends...

01:20:20.340 Tell me, as my friend, if I was dating Fang Fang, you would say, stop it.

01:20:26.320 Right now.

01:20:27.020 It just...

01:20:27.860 There is, like, a Dracula sense to it, right?

01:20:30.400 There's two Fang and Fang.

01:20:32.000 Yeah, Fang Fang.

01:20:32.780 I'd be worried about that.

01:20:33.720 Yeah, no, you can't date her.

01:20:35.240 Unless you can call her something else.

01:20:36.840 But Fang Fang shall not be spoken of again.

01:20:39.700 With all the interest and stuff that you talked about and all the money that we borrow from China...

01:20:43.940 President Fang Fang's not out of the question.

01:20:45.920 We may just have to give China... 0.99

01:20:47.600 Look, you got to name the president this time.

01:20:49.580 Can we get a reduction in the rates?

01:20:52.420 You know, I had a serious banker say to me one time, you don't have to worry about it.

01:20:58.860 What do you mean we don't have to worry about it?

01:21:00.160 We're going to have to pay this back.

01:21:01.540 Glenn, do you know how much the national parks are worth alone?

01:21:06.140 Wait, wait, wait.

01:21:08.600 Are you suggesting we sell the national parks to China?

01:21:13.800 I can't remember this conversation.

01:21:15.200 Remember that?

01:21:16.140 And it was like, of course, of course.

01:21:18.380 I mean, we're going to have to do that.

01:21:19.620 We're just going to have to sell off land.

01:21:22.000 Oh, okay.

01:21:24.000 Hey, want to move up to Alaska?

01:21:26.420 Better learn how to speak Russian.

01:21:30.020 I mean, it's a fire sale.

01:21:32.080 Everything must go.

01:21:33.440 I say we start with the District of Columbia and Hollywood and Manhattan.

01:21:38.380 I mean, we get a lot for that.

01:21:41.320 Much more than the $24 in trinkets.

01:21:43.560 But it would be hard to negotiate for D.C. because D.C. and Hollywood, I think China would 1.00

01:21:49.620 already say, we already own that.

01:21:50.780 What are you talking about?

01:21:51.540 You can't sell it to us twice.

01:21:52.860 You know what I'm saying?

01:21:54.340 All right.

01:21:55.760 Next hour is a power hour, but not the kind of power hour that Stu usually does with drinking.

01:22:02.300 It's a power hour of information that you do not want to miss.

01:22:07.000 We're going to talk to you a little bit about pushback.

01:22:09.100 The pushback that is coming from critical race theory.

01:22:14.620 People are starting to stand up.

01:22:16.500 And why it's important.

01:22:18.820 What are we standing for?

01:22:20.940 All next hour, stand by.

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01:22:27.760 Boy, Stu, I don't know.

01:22:28.520 I don't know what it's like to be like you and to be out of shape like you are.

01:22:32.800 Yeah, it's sad.

01:22:33.920 It is.

01:22:34.760 You've really let yourself go.

01:22:36.220 Unlike you, who are top physical performance.

01:22:39.700 Thank you.

01:22:40.100 You have noticed.

01:22:40.980 Oh, yeah.

01:22:41.520 Yeah.

01:22:41.840 You are basically Adonis.

01:22:45.400 Yeah.

01:22:45.840 Yeah.

01:22:46.220 Yeah.

01:22:46.740 Well, I'm not Greek, but I see what you're saying.

01:22:48.860 Right.

01:22:49.160 I see what you're saying.

01:22:49.720 That was the one flaw.

01:22:51.000 That was the one flaw.

01:22:52.480 I'm not Greek.

01:22:53.440 But hey, you know, you be you, boo.

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01:22:58.940 I can't really say that because it makes everybody so uncomfortable.

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01:23:05.500 Oh, yeah, dog.

01:23:06.460 Anyway, I eat built bars.

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01:23:13.360 Who would say that?

01:23:14.480 My wife.

01:23:15.120 I don't know.

01:23:17.220 Well, I came here the other day.

01:23:18.340 You had three of these great flavors out and you were eating them seemingly like a sandwich.

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01:23:22.760 Have you tried it?

01:23:24.320 Have you tried it?

01:23:25.700 Oh, you're supposed to do.

01:23:26.400 Especially with their new like marshmallow ones.

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01:23:29.940 They are tremendous.

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01:24:11.940 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:24:17.900 From Studio 8H, the Mercury Studios lot here in Dallas, Texas.

01:24:27.180 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:24:29.240 We're glad you're here today.

01:24:31.360 And if you've missed any of the show, you've got to catch it on the podcast.

01:24:34.780 The first hour was unbelievable.

01:24:38.360 An hour with Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin.

01:24:41.540 He's one of the signers of the letter that was published by the flag officers, former flag

01:24:47.300 officers of the United States.

01:24:49.620 Ah, the constitutional responsibility that they feel we all have and the things that we

01:24:56.680 are now facing.

01:24:58.060 Worth a listen on today's podcast, as is this hour.

01:25:03.100 This hour, we are going to give two things.

01:25:07.220 One, the threads that seem to be fraying right now in our flag.

01:25:16.780 How do we piece them all back together, especially in this chaotic atmosphere that we're living in?

01:25:25.460 We're going to talk about that next.

01:25:27.020 And at the bottom of the hour, the people that are pushing back on critical race theory.

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01:26:55.000 So a guy who's been center of the battle, especially when it comes to Hunter Biden and

01:27:03.480 the electronic media of Twitter and Facebook and Google being banned, he is the opinion

01:27:11.760 editor of the New York Post.

01:27:14.340 He was on with us last time when he wasn't allowed to talk on social media about the story

01:27:20.640 that the New York Post had written about with Hunter Biden, which turned out surprisingly,

01:27:26.440 shockingly, were you shocked still?

01:27:28.200 Turned out to be entirely true.

01:27:30.000 Stunning!

01:27:30.460 I was a stunning developer.

01:27:32.120 Crazy.

01:27:33.060 Earlier this week, I read an op-ed piece from him, Wokeism Will Swallow Our Kids Unless We

01:27:40.260 Restore the West's Great Traditions.

01:27:42.380 And I wanted to get him back on because I was really moved by that op-ed.

01:27:46.860 His name is Sourabh Amari, and he joins us now.

01:27:50.240 So, Rob, how are you?

01:27:52.880 How are you, Glenn?

01:27:53.860 Thanks for having me back.

01:27:55.220 You bet.

01:27:55.920 I want to start with your, if you can, in a nutshell, recap the article that I was just

01:28:03.560 talking about with your kid and the radicals at your kid's school.

01:28:11.320 Sure.

01:28:12.340 So the op-ed is based off of my new book, The Unbroken Thread, Discovering the Wisdom of Tradition

01:28:18.400 in an Age of Chaos.

01:28:19.640 And it's a book I wrote for my own son, Max.

01:28:22.180 He's four years old now.

01:28:23.660 He was two when I started writing the book.

01:28:25.980 And my anxiety is about what kind of a man our culture will chisel out of him.

01:28:31.360 He's, I mean, obviously he's in pre-K, but I know lots of parents here in Manhattan who,

01:28:36.360 you know, come to me and whisper their anxieties.

01:28:39.140 They send their kids to these elite schools paying $50,000, $60,000 a year.

01:28:43.520 And all that kids get, it seems, is indoctrination, the notion that certain races carry an essential

01:28:51.380 sin, which is unwashable, and just not really learning anything.

01:28:55.420 I mean, there was a time when you learned, you know, who was Napoleon?

01:28:58.040 What were the Napoleonic Wars?

01:28:59.140 As far as I can tell, all these kids do, and parents complain, is, you know, they meditate

01:29:05.000 endlessly on their own race, sex, gender, and sexuality.

01:29:08.980 And my argument to these parents is that actually the kind of ambient liberalism that they take

01:29:14.780 for granted is not enough to overcome what they worry about.

01:29:18.380 And in fact, you see that in their own lives.

01:29:19.960 They complain to me, the only conservative that they know in New York City, but they don't,

01:29:24.340 at the end of the day, they want their kids to get into Harvard, get into Yale.

01:29:28.360 So they will just put up with the nonsense.

01:29:31.400 And I just think that that means that we don't have a substantive answer to give to

01:29:36.740 wokeism.

01:29:37.620 All we have is like, well, guys, let's uphold procedures, let's not be too fanatical about

01:29:42.660 this stuff.

01:29:43.340 But if you're facing an ideological movement with a substantive vision, which wokeism is,

01:29:47.900 it's a twisted vision, but it is a substantive vision.

01:29:51.140 When you're facing something like that, you need to offer something substantive in response

01:29:55.400 to combat it.

01:29:56.280 And I argue in the op-ed and the book that it's drawn or based on, that that is the great

01:30:01.900 Western tradition, our classical tradition, Greco-Roman tradition, the Judeo-Christian

01:30:06.100 foundations that are the moral substrate of our regime, our republic.

01:30:11.180 That's the kind of thing for which we should be able to make sacrifices in defense of.

01:30:16.440 You are first generation American, right?

01:30:21.000 Correct.

01:30:21.460 I was born in Iran.

01:30:22.480 I moved to the U.S. when I was about to turn 14.

01:30:24.840 I will tell you, the Iranians that I know that moved, you know, after the Shah are some of 1.00

01:30:31.460 the greatest entrepreneurs and Americans that I know.

01:30:35.860 They know exactly what it's like to lose everything and to live under totalitarianism.

01:30:43.300 So, is it true you used to be a Marxist or a communist or something?

01:30:50.800 That's the charge.

01:30:52.120 You know, I'll tell you why.

01:30:55.020 So, when I was growing up in Iran, I encountered religion only as it was handed down with the 0.65

01:31:01.060 iron fist of the Ayatollah.

01:31:02.640 And I said, if this is religion, then it's all a fraud and I don't want any part of it. 1.00

01:31:07.940 And I declared myself an atheist at age 13 while still living in the Islamic Republic.

01:31:13.060 And then I moved to the West, to the United States.

01:31:16.860 And so, I kept that kind of atheistic militancy as a teenager and into my late teens.

01:31:24.160 And that meant, like, adopting the most radical version of that, which is kind of historical

01:31:29.580 materialism or Marxism.

01:31:32.940 So, yeah, I mean, some of my critics will say it used to be that.

01:31:36.280 It's only because I wrote a memoir where I kind of did a tell-all.

01:31:39.400 I personally, Saurabh, I think that makes it strong.

01:31:42.740 I think that makes your story stronger.

01:31:44.640 I like people who have had a transformation from something they really, truly believed.

01:31:50.860 Because it's hard to give up things that you believe.

01:31:53.520 It's not easy.

01:31:55.060 You have to find new friends and everything else.

01:31:58.200 And you've done your homework on both.

01:32:00.920 And you've found freedom and the American system and traditions to be what?

01:32:07.180 Well, in fact, insofar as we have a humane, decent civilization, that's a good thing.

01:32:16.600 And in order to preserve it, we have to attend, basically, to the Judeo-Christian roots that

01:32:22.620 inform it all.

01:32:23.720 Because our rights-based system and all the rights that we have can take on a monstrous

01:32:29.240 quality if they're not tethered to a deeper idea of what are rights for.

01:32:33.360 So the classical tradition, the Christian tradition, and I should note that a decade after my

01:32:40.440 Marxism, I converted to Christianity, these traditions teach us that freedom is freedom

01:32:46.860 to do what you ought to do, not just my right to define everything as I please and just have

01:32:52.780 the maximal amount of choices.

01:32:54.920 If you have that kind of a freedom, and it doesn't have a moral foundation, I've seen

01:33:00.200 this in my own life, I've seen it in the life of my peers now.

01:33:03.360 On the East Coast, rights become these monstrous things, and that's how you get the radicalism

01:33:10.160 of, for example, not only do I want to define how I live or what kind of clothes I wear, but

01:33:15.880 I want to define what my gender is, over against everything we know from biology, from genesis,

01:33:22.620 and the fact that men and women are fundamentally, you know, immutively different.

01:33:26.600 And you can't cross the sex boundary.

01:33:29.220 You cannot become another sex. 0.99

01:33:31.560 That's the kind of excess of freedom that I worry about as an immigrant to this country

01:33:37.720 who has enormous gratitude for this country.

01:33:40.040 I just worry that this new vision of freedom will actually lead to tyranny.

01:33:45.400 Well, isn't the new...

01:33:46.400 That's the paradox of the West.

01:33:47.520 I mean, isn't the new definition of freedom, and I want to make it clear that I think

01:33:53.400 the biggest freedom I have found is through my faith.

01:33:59.640 And my particular brand of faith has a lot of rules and regulations, you know, don't do

01:34:05.620 this, do do that. 0.57

01:34:07.320 And so some people would say, it's so confining.

01:34:10.180 No, no, no.

01:34:10.780 It is unbelievably freeing if you choose to do it, because it just makes things all consistent

01:34:19.420 in your life.

01:34:20.400 And it is very, very freeing.

01:34:23.460 The idea of freedom now to the left is force people to do things.

01:34:31.380 And you're free as long as you do these things while rejecting all traditional kinds of responsibility.

01:34:43.720 Yes.

01:34:44.900 So the argument in my book, I mean, you can encounter it in the op-ed as well, but I laid

01:34:50.200 out much at greater length in the book, is that those traditional limits and restraints,

01:34:56.580 like the one that your faith compels you to do, what you choose to do, those limits actually

01:35:02.880 make us free.

01:35:04.400 Yes.

01:35:04.840 And the loss of those limits, although at first we're told that here's liberation, get rid

01:35:11.120 of the dead hand of the past, get rid of the dead hand of tradition and faith, and you'll

01:35:15.100 find greater freedom.

01:35:16.260 We find once those barriers are gone that we're less free.

01:35:18.960 So, for example, one of the arguments in the book is the loss of the American Sabbath.

01:35:24.020 As you know, Glenn, in this country, going back before the founding of the Republic, Americans

01:35:28.840 had a very clear idea of Sabbatarianism, and that one day a week you reserve for God, for 0.97

01:35:35.740 the things of God, for contemplation, for being with family.

01:35:39.180 And it took a long time.

01:35:40.560 It was only very recently that the last kind of statewide blue law went away.

01:35:44.100 And that looked like freedom, and it was sold as freedom.

01:35:48.080 But what it really meant is freedom of large corporations, mom-and-pop shops, small businesses

01:35:52.380 didn't necessarily want it.

01:35:53.920 The labor movement didn't want it. 0.97

01:35:55.380 And the result isn't that we're doing more.

01:35:57.620 We're just more harried.

01:35:59.080 Yes.

01:35:59.660 We're not spending more time with our family.

01:36:02.060 We're kind of miserable.

01:36:04.040 And so that's just one of those kind of paradoxes, or the idea that, you know, you should always

01:36:08.220 think for yourself and not be subject to any authorities, whether in my religion that might

01:36:13.500 be, you know, the teachings of the Catholic Church, or in yours, the LDS Church.

01:36:19.700 Don't be subject to these kinds of things.

01:36:21.280 Well, it turns out, if you get rid of those kinds of ancient authorities, what you end

01:36:26.040 up with replacing them is not your own mind, it's advertising, it's large corporations,

01:36:31.500 it's big tech, it's the latest ideology.

01:36:34.620 Yes.

01:36:35.420 I'll tell you that, you know, people, you can bash religion all you want, and even separate

01:36:40.820 religions if you care to do so.

01:36:42.500 I have found that most religions have 99% in common, and it's not that, it's just the

01:36:51.340 religion is the way to help each individual understand those things.

01:36:56.320 I was walking down the stairs on Sunday, and we were getting ready for church, and my son

01:37:00.620 was like, oh, I hate Sundays.

01:37:03.560 And I was thinking to myself, I have to, because he hasn't found God himself, everybody has

01:37:07.780 to find it on his own, and right now he's going to church because we make him.

01:37:12.500 But I thought, I have to find a way to have him understand the Sabbath in a secular sort

01:37:22.160 of way, because that's really all of these traditions are, is an understanding.

01:37:27.760 If you want to take God out of it, okay, one day, turn everything off.

01:37:33.480 One day, reconnect with what's real, and stop.

01:37:39.500 Just take a breath.

01:37:41.040 Stop.

01:37:41.640 And it does change your life.

01:37:44.680 Even if it's not connected to God, it will change your life.

01:37:51.000 Yes.

01:37:52.020 Stop and set aside the acquisitiveness, the competition, the rivalries, the gossip.

01:37:59.140 And as you say, the unreality of our lives.

01:38:01.440 So much of it's spent arguing with each other.

01:38:04.560 And in the process of arguing with each other online, all we do is enrich, you know, Mark Zuckerberg

01:38:10.700 and the owner of Twitter, Jack Dorsey.

01:38:14.080 And those people, we're not enriching ourselves.

01:38:16.460 And so, and that is what the Sabbath is about.

01:38:19.980 You know, Rabbi Heschel, the great Jewish thinker, called it a palace in time.

01:38:24.180 Most of our life is spent in the realm of space, in competition, prosperity.

01:38:28.900 And those are fine.

01:38:29.720 Those are real goods.

01:38:30.980 But you also have to reserve some time for time, for the eternal, for God.

01:38:35.940 Yeah.

01:38:36.600 And it has, as you say, it has secular benefits.

01:38:38.980 It does.

01:38:39.580 It does.

01:38:41.100 When we come back, I want to ask you, you've said that David Frenchism has cost the right,

01:38:46.420 the culture war.

01:38:47.640 And I want to delve into that here for just a second.

01:38:51.640 In 60 seconds, we'll return with Saurabh Amari.

01:38:54.500 He is the opinion editor of the New York Post and the author of The Unbroken Thread,

01:39:00.120 Discovering Wisdom of Tradition in an Age of Chaos.

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01:40:28.320 So, Rob, you have said that David Frenchism, it costs the right, the culture war.

01:40:47.220 What do you mean by that?

01:40:50.260 Well, this is a debate I had a couple of years ago.

01:40:53.940 It launched, as one New York Times columnist called it, it's the essay that launched a

01:41:00.480 thousand think pieces, where I tried to identify one strand of social conservatism that, you

01:41:08.080 know, I admire David.

01:41:09.400 It's encapsulated by the figure of David French.

01:41:11.960 And I admire David French in terms of he's been a great lawyer for religious liberty causes

01:41:16.720 and so forth.

01:41:17.500 But what it does is a kind of strategy of retreat for people of faith in the public square.

01:41:24.480 What I mean by that is that, you know, faith has been an element of this nation's founding.

01:41:32.340 Our founding is only sensible in relation to a kind of public understanding.

01:41:36.940 It may differ about the theology, you and I and others and our Jewish friends and Muslims

01:41:41.220 and others, but this sense that people of faith have a public role to play and only fighting

01:41:47.940 on the ground of religious liberty actually corners us because it just says, okay, we just

01:41:53.260 have these nutty beliefs.

01:41:54.380 Let us just have our own private little sphere and not, you know, that we wouldn't seek to

01:42:01.880 reimbue the public square with what our faiths teach about morality and so forth.

01:42:09.060 What it does is it has allowed the rise of this radical leftism.

01:42:13.640 Again, I go back to the theme that there is no neutrality.

01:42:16.620 If that was the lesson of the past two years, well, much longer than that, but especially the

01:42:22.440 past two years and maybe the year of the pandemic, we see that this ideal, this kind of liberal

01:42:27.360 ideal that you'll have a neutral public square and, you know, people who believe that there are

01:42:32.480 only two sexes and those who believe that there are 127 genders will just kind of contest

01:42:37.500 one way or another, we have to choose between the two.

01:42:41.240 And so we cannot abandon the truth and say, yeah.

01:42:45.820 Do you think that Americans understand that?

01:42:48.280 I mean, this is basically what was said by the flag staff of, you know, all of our old

01:42:55.980 generals and admirals yesterday or the day before.

01:42:59.120 They are saying, basically, you got to stand up.

01:43:01.320 There is no neutral.

01:43:02.280 This is what you're fighting and you're either with it or against it.

01:43:06.020 Do we have that in us anymore?

01:43:11.340 I pray we do.

01:43:13.420 You know, unfortunately, I think among our elites, even and perhaps especially a lot of

01:43:18.800 our establishment conservative elites, you don't sense an urgency on their part about what

01:43:25.880 we're facing.

01:43:26.520 And I think, you know, the past four years with the treatment of President Trump and, you

01:43:32.640 know, obviously, David French was a severe critic, but he wasn't the only one of President

01:43:36.380 Trump.

01:43:37.180 You know, President Trump understood a lot of what was happening, but in a kind of intuitive

01:43:41.980 way.

01:43:42.460 And he's not a political theorist or philosopher.

01:43:44.940 We just sense that the ordinary American is having a harder and harder time living a decent,

01:43:50.580 virtuous life because of, you know, free trade deals that were very one sided.

01:43:56.700 And, you know, the kind of assault of the left on what it means to be fully human, what

01:44:02.700 it means to be a person of faith, all that is under assault.

01:44:04.700 He kind of understood it.

01:44:06.260 And and you had the entire establishment, right, just seeking to seek him from day one.

01:44:12.640 And so if if it's up to the establishment elites of the Republican Party, I have zero

01:44:17.680 hope, but I will have hope in the base of the party and an ordinary American.

01:44:22.120 I mean, I will tell you, they have every right to take Lynn Cheney out, et cetera, et cetera. 0.94

01:44:26.160 But this is ridiculous. 0.74

01:44:27.280 We're spending so much time on this. 0.95

01:44:29.760 The country is on fire.

01:44:32.120 Can you guys put together a list of things that you all can agree on that we can all stand

01:44:36.300 together on and fight as one?

01:44:38.740 The time is running short.

01:44:40.000 Well, and it's been kind of interesting disappointments.

01:44:44.960 And it's, for example, I keep coming to this back question of gender and sexuality, but

01:44:49.680 it just what they're trying to make us do is help us lose our grasp on reality.

01:44:54.360 About 20 seconds.

01:44:55.500 And that's why I think it's very important to to for Republican governors to stand up for

01:45:00.300 the difference between biological reality.

01:45:03.620 Thank you so much.

01:45:05.100 The name of the book is The Unbroken Thread, Discovering the Wisdom of Tradition in the

01:45:09.980 Age of Chaos by Saurabh Amari.

01:45:13.160 Talk to you again, Saurabh.

01:45:14.140 Thank you.

01:45:19.940 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:45:22.960 Imagine you have a piece of paper that reads good for one car and you could take that paper

01:45:27.200 to the car lot and drive away with a new car.

01:45:30.160 But you don't need a car right now.

01:45:31.580 So you save the paper for a rainy day.

01:45:33.860 Then one day you wake up and the paper reads good for four tires.

01:45:37.460 And you realize you should have gotten the car while the paper was still worth the whole

01:45:40.700 car.

01:45:41.740 This is actually what happened with Volkswagen in Germany.

01:45:44.940 You saved and you got a piece of paper that said you get a Volkswagen.

01:45:48.360 But then the war broke out and you didn't get the Volkswagen and it wasn't settled until

01:45:53.540 the 1960s.

01:45:55.100 Well, that's what the dollar is.

01:45:57.460 That's what's happening with the dollar.

01:45:58.860 That piece of paper says you are entitled to one dollar.

01:46:03.220 Well, they're devaluing that dollar gold line.

01:46:07.800 The gold is not devaluing.

01:46:10.660 It is going to become more and more important.

01:46:13.560 And right now they have a special on their graded Liberty five dollar coins.

01:46:17.840 Those are the coins that I collect.

01:46:19.720 It's a collection and it's a nice collection.

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01:46:55.320 I have some good news that I'm going to have Christopher Rufo.

01:47:00.340 He's a contributing editor of the City Journal and senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

01:47:05.000 The guy is a machine.

01:47:06.260 He is really the the guy who first really started to expose critical race theory being taught

01:47:15.360 everywhere.

01:47:15.840 I think it started in Seattle.

01:47:17.700 I think is the first time I saw it and then has been chasing it and has some I think some

01:47:24.940 things that are coming that are very exciting.

01:47:27.640 People are starting to stand up.

01:47:29.720 And in fact, there's one major corporation that just kind of pulled back a little bit,

01:47:34.700 which was a little surprising.

01:47:36.140 Christopher Rufo is with us now.

01:47:37.540 Hi, Christopher.

01:47:38.440 How are you?

01:47:39.500 I'm very well.

01:47:40.260 Good to be with you.

01:47:41.040 Thank you.

01:47:41.740 So let's start with Disney this week.

01:47:45.120 We found out through you that they were they were putting everybody through this critical

01:47:51.540 race training and it was pretty horrifying.

01:47:56.220 Yeah, it was.

01:47:57.580 It was really shocking.

01:47:58.680 I had multiple sources within Disney leak me these documents as whistleblowers.

01:48:03.060 And Disney was saying that America was founded on systemic racism.

01:48:07.560 It was telling employees that they had to listen to their black colleagues and not question

01:48:12.520 their lived experience.

01:48:13.860 It was also recommending resources where employees could take a white privilege checklist to see

01:48:19.980 exactly how much white privilege they have.

01:48:21.960 And it only got worse from there as things delved into politics.

01:48:24.880 They linked employees to a resource that said that they should defund the police, decolonize

01:48:30.700 their bookshelves and join a local, quote, white space, whatever that might be.

01:48:35.860 So Disney issued a statement to your release of their documents and said these internal

01:48:42.220 documents are being deliberately distorted as reflective of company policy when, in fact,

01:48:47.320 their purpose was to allow diversity of thought and discussion on incredibly complex and challenging

01:48:51.420 issues of race.

01:48:52.620 I know it's hard to keep a straight face even reading this.

01:48:56.040 The Disney brand has a long release from the Soviet Union.

01:48:59.320 I mean, it really is. 0.84

01:49:00.180 I mean, it's just breathtaking and it's in its in its just pathetic attempt to deflect.

01:49:04.460 But the fact is, is that they confirmed that the documents were authentic.

01:49:10.000 I posted the entire documents in full.

01:49:12.820 So can't be distorted.

01:49:14.620 And then the real switch was the real funny thing is they said, well, you know, we love

01:49:19.940 inclusivity.

01:49:20.660 We've directed films like Moana and Black Panther.

01:49:23.240 I mean, it really is that I have black friends defense.

01:49:26.060 It's like, no, we're not racist.

01:49:27.420 We have we made Black Panther is one of our best films.

01:49:30.020 I mean, you could see the corporate PR office just imploding in on itself.

01:49:35.780 It was pretty beautiful sight.

01:49:37.060 Yeah.

01:49:37.240 I'll say, Chris, though, they accuse you of intentionally misrepresenting these documents.

01:49:42.100 I mean, you did post them all, but they said you intentionally were misleading people.

01:49:47.460 Yeah.

01:49:47.720 I mean, you know, that seems to be the go to move when you get caught with your pants

01:49:52.280 down.

01:49:52.620 You have to point your finger at the person who's there.

01:49:55.280 So, you know, they claim that I distorted them, you know, that's categorically false.

01:50:01.040 I posted the entire set of documents.

01:50:04.000 I did direct quotes.

01:50:05.620 I posted contextual screenshots.

01:50:07.860 And then the real tell, the real proof and vindication for our reporting is that within

01:50:13.100 24 hours of making this press release, Disney deleted the entire diversity and inclusion

01:50:19.440 program from their internal website.

01:50:21.200 So if they were so proud of these documents, if they felt like they wanted to stand by

01:50:26.380 them, they wouldn't have deleted them.

01:50:28.560 And I think that's the ultimate vindication of my reporting.

01:50:31.440 Well, pardon their pixie dust.

01:50:33.480 Let me let me ask you, do you think this is I don't know if you saw that report from

01:50:39.160 was it Oklahoma?

01:50:40.940 Uh, one of the teachers that, uh, was very upset at Chris critical race theory being banned.

01:50:47.260 And she said, I'm going to teach it anyway.

01:50:48.640 I don't really care.

01:50:49.840 Uh, I'll find my own way to do it.

01:50:51.860 Is it, do you think that's what's happening or do you think they actually got enough push

01:50:57.100 back on this to go, wait, we shouldn't maybe go there?

01:51:00.500 Yeah, it's hard to tell time.

01:51:02.920 Time will show us exactly where, but, um, it's possible that it will come back, but I can,

01:51:07.380 I can say with a high degree of confidence that it's not going to come back in the same

01:51:11.120 form.

01:51:11.740 And what I think the dynamics that I'm hoping to create, uh, can do is that when we expose

01:51:17.660 these programs, which are not diversity training programs, they're political indoctrination

01:51:22.700 programs, we raise the cost on these major companies.

01:51:25.960 And, and if they are getting pushback, if they're getting blowback, if they're getting

01:51:31.220 heat for these things, it gives corporate executives who in many cases probably don't even want

01:51:36.340 to do this stuff, it gives them an easy out to cancel them, to reduce them, to limit them,

01:51:41.520 to restrict them.

01:51:42.580 And that's really the name of the game.

01:51:43.960 We need to shift the incentives.

01:51:45.640 So corporations now pay a price for promoting these programs.

01:51:49.360 Uh, and, and then it gives the reasonable and rational executives who want to just focus

01:51:54.400 on business.

01:51:55.200 It gives them an exit ramp that they can say, well, you know, this totally blew up.

01:52:00.160 We need to, we need to totally rethink this program.

01:52:02.680 We've seen it with Coca-Cola.

01:52:03.800 We've seen it with Disney.

01:52:05.240 We've seen it with Coinbase.

01:52:06.880 Uh, we've seen it with Shopify.

01:52:08.300 A lot of companies are now starting, uh, to reverse course on some of these most destructive

01:52:13.160 programs.

01:52:14.280 But I do wonder if it's a smokescreen.

01:52:17.040 I mean, you know, uh, Common Core came back to many states just under a different name.

01:52:22.140 Uh, you know, we have to be vigilant because they're shapeshifters. 1.00

01:52:25.980 They really are shapeshifters. 0.94

01:52:27.300 Um, what are you seeing in, uh, in the future?

01:52:33.160 What are you seeing?

01:52:34.480 I mean, I'm, uh, I'm just going to come right out straight and ask you, I have heard that

01:52:39.520 there are some things on the horizon, uh, that people are mobilizing with and there is

01:52:46.100 dramatic pushback coming.

01:52:47.800 Is that, do you care to comment on any of that?

01:52:51.720 Yeah, I think that's absolutely right.

01:52:53.460 I, I, I, without revealing too many details, uh, I'm planning on continuing this series on

01:52:58.380 woke capital.

01:52:59.280 I have a number of major fortune 100 companies in my crosshairs.

01:53:03.260 That reporting will be coming out over the next few months.

01:53:05.920 Uh, and then also, you know, Republican congressional leaders, uh, leaders in the Senate, uh, leaders

01:53:12.260 in, uh, the state legislatures, and then also state attorneys general are all starting to

01:53:17.160 really mobilize on this issue.

01:53:18.780 Uh, they realized that 70 to 80% of the American public rejects critical race theory in the

01:53:24.040 classroom, rejects critical race theory, uh, in the workplace.

01:53:27.380 So this is a very much a winning issue.

01:53:30.380 And I'm starting to see all of the pieces come together, uh, to build this great, uh, this

01:53:36.400 great machine to start fighting back.

01:53:38.880 So have you seen, because the, the polls show that it's really only the uber liberal white,

01:53:45.480 uh, Democrats that are for this a lot.

01:53:49.340 Most Democrats aren't even for this.

01:53:51.680 Um, are you seeing them stand up or is it just kind of, I'm not for it, but I'm not going

01:53:57.560 to say anything.

01:53:59.000 Oh, I, I've sensed a complete shift in momentum, especially, uh, within elite institutions, corporations,

01:54:06.920 private schools, uh, public schools, agencies.

01:54:10.640 Um, what's happening is that the, the, the more that people stand up against this, it

01:54:16.480 reduces the cost for others to stand up against it.

01:54:19.300 So we have very courageous parents in Loudoun County, Virginia, Fairfax, Virginia, Cupertino,

01:54:24.620 California, Springfield, Missouri, uh, Buffalo, New York is starting to happen where parents

01:54:30.480 and families are starting to push back and then they're giving, uh, they're, they're

01:54:34.740 clearing out the way.

01:54:35.840 So people don't have to be scared.

01:54:37.360 And I think that's really the ultimate problem that we're facing that we need to solve is

01:54:42.180 that people are terrified of speaking out against this stuff, even if they don't believe

01:54:46.380 in it.

01:54:46.800 And, and, you know, as you said, the evidence is in most Americans don't believe in this.

01:54:51.520 Most Democrats don't believe in this and most racial minorities don't believe in this.

01:54:55.780 So we have to take the initiative to break through that wall of fear that people have

01:55:02.960 of speaking out.

01:55:03.780 And once we do that, uh, we can go on pure offense.

01:55:07.500 Christopher, thank you so much for all the work you do.

01:55:09.020 I appreciate it.

01:55:09.580 Thanks for being on the program.

01:55:11.140 Thank you.

01:55:11.880 You bet.

01:55:12.340 You know, I'm reading this book, uh, right now.

01:55:15.280 I think it's daughter of the, of the Reich or something.

01:55:18.440 It was a New York times bestseller a couple of years ago.

01:55:20.940 I was in an airport and needed something to read.

01:55:22.920 I pulled that out.

01:55:24.200 And, um, uh, I just, I just read one of the chapters, uh, last night and it was these,

01:55:33.640 uh, these kids in school and the teacher has been dismissed, um, Jewish teacher and

01:55:42.220 a new teacher comes in and, uh, he says you and you come up to the front and they're

01:55:48.320 both Jewish students and the class likes them.

01:55:51.620 And, you know, the main character of the book is friends and she just can't understand how,

01:55:59.220 first of all, the guy she likes who's blonde and blue eyed is Jewish.

01:56:03.680 She's like, that's a mistake.

01:56:05.400 Um, and her father is an SS guy and, uh, uh, they start, he takes out the calipers and he

01:56:14.260 says, look at her eyes, see how eyes, her eyes are set.

01:56:18.580 So close, that's the sign of a shifty Jew and starts to measure her and talk about all 1.00

01:56:25.280 these things as if she was an animal, not there. 0.92

01:56:29.020 And just says horrible things about her and then goes to the guy and does the same thing.

01:56:35.100 And it's interesting because in the, in the book, at least the kids are whispering to each

01:56:40.400 other.

01:56:41.600 Okay, enough.

01:56:42.320 Cause you see the girls start to cry.

01:56:44.440 And at first they just kind of put up with it.

01:56:47.980 And then they, they start saying, okay, you've made your point, move on.

01:56:53.960 Um, and he doesn't, he keeps going.

01:56:56.020 And the main character says, I stood up and screamed, stop.

01:57:01.960 Except then I became aware that I hadn't said anything and I was still sitting in my seat.

01:57:07.960 I was glued to my seat.

01:57:09.440 I couldn't move.

01:57:10.740 I couldn't speak.

01:57:11.660 This is exactly the same kind of thing.

01:57:15.280 You know, you don't speak now.

01:57:17.420 You're not going to speak when it gets more dangerous.

01:57:21.200 You know what they're saying about people right now, what they're saying about white people,

01:57:24.840 what they're saying about Asians, what they're saying about black people, all of it is racist 0.98

01:57:29.620 and wrong and evil. 0.94

01:57:32.360 And if you're not willing to stand up, especially in school, if our kids aren't willing to,

01:57:40.020 uh, you know, uh, uh, speak out in school, a, an institution, you and I are paying for an

01:57:49.540 institution, if they're going to the university that they, or you are paying for, you think

01:57:55.700 they're going to have the courage to stand up when their paycheck is online?

01:58:00.920 Nobody's it's, it's unreasonable.

01:58:03.200 It's unreasonable to think that you're going to suddenly have the courage.

01:58:07.360 If things continue to go down this road, they're going to get worse.

01:58:11.180 And you're suddenly going to find the courage to stand.

01:58:14.200 You got to stand right now.

01:58:16.160 You have to stand right now.

01:58:18.100 On last night's, uh, studios America, we went through some documents, um, uh, from a white 1.00

01:58:22.980 privilege check from a high school in Pennsylvania where they go through and, and basically outline

01:58:29.820 why you're, you don't understand your own privilege, right?

01:58:34.600 You know, um, are you able to, uh, to go shopping without being looked at, right?

01:58:40.520 Like kind of some of that gets sort of in that standard way.

01:58:43.480 Um, I can, if I wish arranged to be in the company of people of my race, most of the time,

01:58:48.640 I thought that one was fascinating.

01:58:50.460 So yes or no, Glenn, can you, if you wish arranged to be in the company of people of

01:58:55.540 your race, most of the time, I could, if I wanted to, yes, you could, if you wanted to,

01:59:00.780 what would that make you?

01:59:03.120 It would make you a racist. 0.75

01:59:04.580 It would make you a racist.

01:59:05.760 Would it not?

01:59:06.380 If you wanted to be in the company of your own race, most of the time, that would make 0.99

01:59:11.760 you just a freaking racist. 0.99

01:59:13.780 And they act as if this is some privilege that poor black people can't quite get to 1.00

01:59:19.940 because there's not enough black people around. 0.98

01:59:21.920 Well, if a black person wants to spend all of his life with other black people, then he's 1.00

01:59:26.480 thinking too much about race. 0.66

01:59:27.780 Well, then that would be a, an argument for, if that's true, an argument for segregation,

01:59:33.940 which they are for now.

01:59:35.820 Yes, that is, I mean, how, when they argue outwardly for, for segregation, when they argue

01:59:43.280 outwardly for discrimination, what do you think this is?

01:59:47.040 Let me give you, let me give you something we didn't get to today.

01:59:49.520 I think, cause I thought this just reminded me, you know, you're on the wrong side.

01:59:54.040 You know, you're on the wrong side when you're coming after, uh, Gal Gadot's, uh, tweet.

02:00:00.960 Yeah.

02:00:01.420 Yesterday.

02:00:01.980 Okay.

02:00:02.840 Where she basically says you have the right, they have the right to defend themselves.

02:00:06.800 Israel has a right to exist.

02:00:08.220 Mm-hmm.

02:00:08.700 Okay.

02:00:09.560 Um, a Muslim actress, Vina Malik, uh, she, she came out and she quoted, uh, she said, um, 0.91

02:00:23.980 I would have killed all the Jews of the world, but I kept some to show the world why I killed 1.00

02:00:29.420 them. 1.00

02:00:30.080 Adolf Hitler.

02:00:32.440 That was her tweet.

02:00:33.760 You know, you're, you know, you're on the wrong side when you're being told to deny everything

02:00:41.540 that you taught, you were taught was right and wrong.

02:00:44.600 And not from, not from just your parents.

02:00:47.360 You might've had bad parents, but everything, everything good in society was teaching you

02:00:53.680 all of the heroes of the past, Martin Luther King.

02:00:59.240 When you're told, nope, everything they said, it's the exact opposite.

02:01:06.620 You better stand up.

02:01:08.340 You just better stand up.

02:01:12.720 All right.

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02:02:20.820 Hey, so a new federal judge is being interviewed and things went well yesterday.

02:02:26.060 Wouldn't you say, Stu?

02:02:26.720 I think so.

02:02:27.900 Her name is Deborah Boardman.

02:02:29.560 She's supposed to serve as the federal district judge in Maryland and had an interesting exchange

02:02:33.480 with Senator Kennedy.

02:02:35.500 The rational basis test is.

02:02:38.560 Do you know what the rational basis test is?

02:02:39.900 Thank you, Senator Kennedy, for that question.

02:02:41.460 And I understand that that is probably the first level of review in the constitutional question.

02:02:48.880 And certainly if that matter were before me in a constitutional matter, I would research

02:02:53.520 the law, including Supreme Court precedent, binding court circuit precedent, and I would

02:02:57.920 apply it where applicable.

02:02:59.500 What is it?

02:03:00.760 Can you define the cash form?

02:03:02.800 I cannot sit in here right now, sir.

02:03:05.820 So now you might not know what the rational basis test is, right?

02:03:10.060 It was described by one expert as this is like asking a carpenter what a door is and

02:03:16.040 them not being able to tell you.

02:03:18.640 Should you hire that carpenter? 1.00

02:03:20.340 Probably not.

02:03:21.040 Probably not.

02:03:21.860 Probably not.

02:03:22.620 This is really basic, important constitutional concept, which, by the way, is not really constitutional.

02:03:28.000 But is she is she been impacted by racism in any way?

02:03:31.960 That's a great question.

02:03:33.080 You know, you know, getting accurate answers.

02:03:34.700 It's just part of the white culture. 0.70

02:03:36.380 I don't know if you know that.

02:03:37.000 Exactly right.

02:03:37.520 Thank you, Stu.

02:03:38.160 Now you're getting it.

02:03:39.120 Thank you.

02:03:40.520 Podcast with Nikki Haley.

02:03:42.120 Tonight.

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