The Glenn Beck Program - 'Paranoia Will Destroy Ya'？ - 9⧸6⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.240 I think I need to open the phones, because I could play, well, on one hand, but then

00:00:15.700 again on the other, all day long.

00:00:18.860 And I really want to hear from you on the spy in the White House.

00:00:27.060 The op-ed in the New York Times, by the way, we're going to take your phone calls, 888-727-BECK.

00:00:36.020 Call now.

00:00:37.760 The op-ed in the New York Times.

00:00:41.220 On one hand, I'm really happy.

00:00:44.880 I'm, I'm, there is, we all know that Donald Trump is a little unhinged at times.

00:00:57.440 He may not be taking Russia as seriously as he should be.

00:01:03.660 We also know that there's some things that we really like.

00:01:07.320 So, on one hand, I'm glad there are people that are stopping him or slowing him down on

00:01:16.160 doing some of the crazy things that are either undemocratic or not, you know, Republican conservative

00:01:23.140 things.

00:01:25.260 On the other hand, not covertly.

00:01:31.320 I am really very bothered by the covert nature of this.

00:01:38.580 If you are taking, you know, things, and this is the Bob Woodward book, not the editorial,

00:01:43.860 but if you are taking things off the president's desk, on the one hand, but on the other, you're

00:01:53.520 not an elected official.

00:01:54.820 Well, even if it, even if it were Mike Pence, and I don't think it is, even if it were Mike

00:02:00.220 Pence, and he's an elected official, they didn't vote for you, Mike.

00:02:04.940 They voted for him.

00:02:07.440 We have a shadow government.

00:02:10.500 This, you can't tell me that this is healthy because it never stops here.

00:02:17.180 Let me ask, let me ask you this.

00:02:19.580 If you're upset about this today, that he's doing this, would you have cheered if somebody,

00:02:28.660 let's say, in the treasury or, you know, on the, on the, a group of people with the cabinet

00:02:35.960 that Obama never met with, if they would say, you know what, we believe in, in healthcare

00:02:44.020 being the best in the world, is happening here because of the free market system, this

00:02:49.060 is going to be a danger to our economy.

00:02:52.380 It's going to be a danger to the future of health and innovation.

00:02:57.560 Would you be okay with a group of people covertly stopping Obamacare inside the administration?

00:03:06.480 Now, I will tell you that part of me would cheer, but I would hope that I would say, but on

00:03:17.020 the other hand, we didn't elect those people.

00:03:21.900 Elections have consequences.

00:03:24.800 This is a bailout.

00:03:27.440 I'm sorry, but then we're in the constitution.

00:03:29.640 Can I find the bailout for the, uh, president?

00:03:34.840 I mean, he's the president.

00:03:37.060 You elected him and well, half the country didn't, well, half the country didn't elect

00:03:42.600 Barack Obama either, but he was the president.

00:03:47.820 So would you have cheered if you were upset?

00:03:51.780 And if you're cheering now, would you have cheered if somebody had done that to Barack Obama?

00:03:58.460 Or let's use a real scenario.

00:04:01.420 If this precedence stands, will you be cheering when it happens to your guy?

00:04:08.780 Maybe the next term.

00:04:11.760 I can't find this in the constitution.

00:04:14.880 I do believe this is a nationals. 0.98

00:04:17.260 I believe in the op-ed, it says, well, uh, we didn't want to get involved with the 25th

00:04:23.100 amendment.

00:04:23.500 We don't want to cause a constitutional crisis.

00:04:26.240 You have.

00:04:27.320 You're doing it right now.

00:04:30.240 You have a, a shadow government inside of the white house, an unelected, unnamed group

00:04:40.140 of people that are thwarting the president of the United States.

00:04:46.920 Uh, I don't know how to look at that other than a banana Republic. 0.99

00:04:51.640 I'm sorry.

00:04:53.560 I mean, at least the 25th amendment to the constitution is in the constitution, in the

00:04:58.100 constitution, there is impeachment, there is election, there is the 25th amendment.

00:05:04.280 There is not anywhere in the law constitution or common sense for a group of people to be

00:05:12.620 secretly thwarting everything.

00:05:15.460 Everything this president is trying to do.

00:05:17.780 And on the other hand, I'm glad that he's been slowed down on certain things or hasn't

00:05:27.280 done certain things.

00:05:28.700 But I am not for, I am for a group of people coming into his office and saying, Mr. President,

00:05:35.080 you cannot do this.

00:05:37.080 Or we all walk.

00:05:39.380 I am for that.

00:05:40.800 I am not for a group of people deciding they're just going to take the rule of law and the

00:05:48.840 constitution into their own hands.

00:05:51.320 And I would have said this under Barack Obama.

00:05:54.840 I do not like secrecy.

00:05:57.320 I do not like the lack of transparency.

00:05:59.880 And this is a dangerous precedence.

00:06:02.720 It's Thursday, September 6th.

00:06:11.480 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:06:16.900 I don't fascinating day.

00:06:19.220 It's my gosh, there's so much to talk about today.

00:06:24.580 We have, I have some good news.

00:06:26.980 I have some really good news about the Democrats starting to turn.

00:06:32.720 As well, there is an, an, a historic opportunity right now.

00:06:38.480 It's happening right now.

00:06:40.660 If people will stick to principles, American principles, you have a chance of uniting maybe

00:06:49.120 60% of this country, maybe, maybe higher, but over 50% of this country can come together

00:06:57.260 because people are tired of this.

00:07:00.800 They're tired of the craziness.

00:07:02.300 They're tired of the craziness of the, the Trump administration.

00:07:07.200 They're tired of the craziness in Congress.

00:07:09.780 They're tired of the craziness from the alt-right.

00:07:13.140 They're tired of the craziness from Antifa.

00:07:15.800 And the Democrats are finally waking up going, wait a minute, we have been hijacked.

00:07:21.920 And they are finally seeing the same things that the Tea Party saw in the Republicans.

00:07:30.040 They're rejecting their own party.

00:07:33.160 And that is a good thing because they're rejecting Democratic Socialists.

00:07:39.340 They're, they're rejecting Linda Sarsour.

00:07:41.880 We'll get into this later.

00:07:43.340 There is some really good news.

00:07:45.120 But short-term thinking, I know people in the administration and in and around the administration that called me before the election and said,

00:08:03.920 Glenn, I just want to have an off-the-record conversation with you.

00:08:08.060 You and I have been friends for a long time or you and I have been doing this or whatever.

00:08:13.640 And I know you, you respect me.

00:08:16.100 I respect you.

00:08:16.960 I want you to know I'm not speaking out because someone needs to be in the room.

00:08:23.680 Someone has to be there to help shape and guide.

00:08:29.700 So I know people and I celebrate that people are in the room that are, are not crazy.

00:08:38.960 Who don't believe that, you know, trade is easily, you know, easy trade wars are easily won.

00:08:45.020 That Russia, there's nothing wrong with Putin.

00:08:47.720 Putin's just like us.

00:08:49.020 No, he's not.

00:08:49.980 So I'm really glad about that.

00:08:52.240 And I know people who took jobs there and are getting blasted for it.

00:08:58.240 But they took jobs so someone could be in the room.

00:09:03.820 That's different than this.

00:09:05.800 Don't you think, Stu?

00:09:09.280 Yes.

00:09:10.060 I mean, certainly it's different than what we were talking about with the Woodward book, right?

00:09:15.720 Where people are taking, allegedly taking papers off of desks to hide things that the president wants to do and take it, taking something that's done away from him so he can't sign it.

00:09:27.740 At least that's what's the way it was portrayed in the Woodward book.

00:09:29.900 That to me is completely over the line, you know, and because, you know, look, even if he's making bad decisions, you know, we elected him.

00:09:36.940 But elections have consequences, yeah.

00:09:39.460 I mean, even if, you know, because I think I'm very vocal on how much I disagree with the president on trade in particular.

00:09:45.100 Yeah.

00:09:45.440 But, I mean, the president's the freaking president.

00:09:48.100 And the Congress, by the way, gave him that power.

00:09:50.700 The Congress gave the power to the president against what the Constitution says.

00:09:54.400 Yes.

00:09:54.680 And allows him to do this.

00:09:56.320 So, you know, this is where we are.

00:09:58.340 All you have to do to restrain any president, this is what we were asking Congress to do under Barack Obama, is tell Congress to live within the constitutional powers.

00:10:11.520 Take your power back.

00:10:12.080 And force the administration to live within its power.

00:10:16.600 Right.

00:10:17.000 They don't want their power back.

00:10:19.040 They want to be able to blame it on somebody else.

00:10:21.840 That's what's really happening.

00:10:23.100 But you argue with the president about that, and you tell him he's wrong, and if you really feel strongly about it, you might resign.

00:10:31.600 And Cohen did resign, right?

00:10:33.360 I mean, so, but you don't, this is such a strange thing as far as the specifics about this op-ed, which is, you can say that this is someone who is working against an agenda.

00:10:47.060 And they don't specify any of these, like, tricks where they're doing something against the president.

00:10:52.520 And he says he's doing what I believe is right.

00:10:55.540 And it's something where we are working against the worst instincts of the president, is the way they phrase it.

00:11:03.500 And doing that can be a bunch of different things.

00:11:06.320 You know, that can be what we're talking about.

00:11:07.580 It might be just talking about, you know, trying to guide him towards the right decision.

00:11:13.120 Which is a completely, every big executive has advisors who do that.

00:11:17.440 We talked about Steve Jobs yesterday.

00:11:20.240 Steve Jobs had people on his staff that would tell people, don't bring that up to Steve.

00:11:25.780 Please don't.

00:11:26.680 Or we're going to go off on a tangent and we'll be a million miles away.

00:11:30.360 Right.

00:11:30.580 And is that wrong?

00:11:31.580 I mean, is that action wrong?

00:11:33.240 No.

00:11:33.540 It can be in certain circumstances, I think.

00:11:35.760 Stu, you and I both know that you have said to people before they meet with me, don't bring that up with Glenn because he'll go, right?

00:11:46.500 We'll be building rocket ships.

00:11:48.200 Right, right.

00:11:48.700 All right?

00:11:49.480 And I don't ever have a problem with that.

00:11:52.420 But you would never say if it was critical to hear an alternate voice.

00:11:58.720 Right.

00:11:59.160 Or a different opinion.

00:12:00.500 You would never shut that down.

00:12:01.820 And I have had employees that have walked out of my office and they were fired for it because they walked out of my office and they were high-level executives.

00:12:12.060 And they said to their team after meeting with me for like 90 minutes and agreeing on a course, okay, dismiss all of that.

00:12:18.860 We're not going to do any of that.

00:12:20.120 Right.

00:12:20.240 Like that's not.

00:12:20.760 That's different.

00:12:21.520 Yeah.

00:12:21.840 That's not something.

00:12:23.220 Yeah.

00:12:23.560 You're right.

00:12:24.180 Because if it's something like where the president of the United States is saying, I want to start a trade war with, you know, Madagascar. 0.95

00:12:30.720 Then you all have to walk out in front of the press and say, I can't do it.

00:12:36.620 He wants to start a trade war.

00:12:37.900 This is crazy.

00:12:39.220 Now, in here, they don't necessarily outline that.

00:12:41.420 He doesn't outline, I don't think, something that would be completely against the Constitution.

00:12:49.360 I don't think he outlines that.

00:12:51.120 I think he outlines that he is, he wants to almost tell the American people, I'm there trying to, I'm there to try to do what I can to push back against these worst instincts.

00:13:01.800 Depending on how that's defined, it could be okay, maybe not.

00:13:04.620 But the issue I have with it is that if what you're doing, you're doing to be, to do something that's good for the country, and you believe this is really important,

00:13:13.860 you have to do that in silence.

00:13:17.860 When you come out and write this op-ed, Trump, every time something doesn't happen, he's going to believe he's being thwarted in some way.

00:13:24.300 I could not solve this puzzle in my head last night.

00:13:31.880 Why, for the love of God, would you do this?

00:13:36.700 Yeah.

00:13:37.320 Okay?

00:13:38.880 Here's a guy who, in the Woodward book, if you believe any of this, and I do believe some of this, he loves chaos.

00:13:47.900 He must have complete blind loyalty.

00:13:53.220 He is vindictive, and he is paranoid.

00:13:58.740 Now, he has a reason to be paranoid, but you've just said, here's a guy who's a little unstable, and he's a little undemocratic.

00:14:08.620 You know he's a guy that does purges.

00:14:13.000 Why would you tell the world, and him, by the way, there's a group of us, yeah, you don't even know who we are,

00:14:22.100 but we're there every day, and we're thwarting you.

00:14:25.660 Why would you do that?

00:14:27.360 If you believed that this was national security, why would you come out and admit that?

00:14:32.560 Because you've just made the president, if I'm to believe you, much more dangerous, much more likely to not listen to anyone.

00:14:42.480 What is your purpose?

00:14:44.900 I cannot come up with a logical reason other than, and I hate to say this, other than somebody who wants to say, I was that guy.

00:14:58.500 Yeah, like someone who wants history to look at him in a certain way, which is a terrible instinct.

00:15:02.940 If you're really this person who is there for the country, that's not what you would want to do.

00:15:07.400 I mean, the argument being made by people who are kind of supporting this is he mentions the McCain funeral,

00:15:14.500 and we've been nonstop hit with country first and all the things that McCain, many believe McCain kind of stood for.

00:15:23.120 And whether you liked him or not, this person seemingly did, right?

00:15:27.580 So the idea of, hey, maybe I should let the people know that there are good people here.

00:15:31.820 It's not all bad.

00:15:33.140 I just don't buy that.

00:15:34.200 If you are in that administration and you believe that doing these things is an important part of what's happening

00:15:40.080 and you're protecting the country against negative influences, again, depending on how you're doing it, that can be okay, and maybe not.

00:15:46.260 I have news for you.

00:15:46.880 If you believe that the president, as stated in this op-ed, is a threat to democracy and the national security,

00:15:58.620 you have a constitutional responsibility.

00:16:03.000 You do not take an oath to the president.

00:16:06.320 You take an oath to the Constitution of the United States of America.

00:16:10.380 If you believe this, you have a responsibility to go out and say, this is what's happening.

00:16:20.020 This is a danger.

00:16:21.660 You have that responsibility, period.

00:16:26.800 But on the other hand, love to hear your comments.

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00:16:54.200 They said if he ups it again, they just said this overnight, if he goes back for more sanctions,

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00:17:04.840 Well, what does that mean?

00:17:05.980 I don't know.

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00:17:57.680 Glenn Beck.

00:17:58.820 We'll go to Debbie on line nine.

00:18:00.220 Hello, Debbie.

00:18:00.860 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:18:01.940 Hi, I wanted to respond to your discussion about the Woodward book and the op-ed, and I look at it in a slightly different way.

00:18:12.000 I'm an independent.

00:18:13.280 I didn't vote for either candidate.

00:18:15.540 But I'm really, really tired of people making excuses for Mr. Trump's behavior.

00:18:22.920 It's just, you know, people will say, and I'm not talking about Fox, I'm not talking about CNN, and I'm not talking about anybody in particular.

00:18:31.160 It just seems like everybody says, well, I don't like this, and then the next sentence is an excuse.

00:18:39.120 So maybe this is a way of things now are starting to kind of make full circle, come back to him for his behavior.

00:18:48.120 Well, I don't know, Debbie.

00:18:51.220 That's going to require the citizens of the United States to actually start caring about the truth.

00:18:56.700 Donald Trump and Steve Bannon are employing basic right-wing post-modernism, where the truth doesn't matter.

00:19:08.700 It's my truth.

00:19:09.500 Well, that's fake news, and there's no logic.

00:19:14.420 There's no facts behind it, just as the press did under Obama and with Hillary Clinton.

00:19:21.420 Oh, the Benghazi thing.

00:19:22.620 Well, that was started by a film.

00:19:24.220 No, it wasn't.

00:19:25.100 No, it wasn't.

00:19:25.780 And you guys had meetings about it.

00:19:28.160 We have records.

00:19:29.320 And that truth didn't matter to the press.

00:19:32.220 Well, two can play that game, I guess.

00:19:34.640 And so nobody's going to hold anyone accountable.

00:19:37.640 The left is going to try to hold the right accountable for doing the same things that they did.

00:19:44.100 And the right is going to hold the left accountable for everything that they're doing now.

00:19:51.300 That's post-modernism, a world that is not based in fact.

00:19:55.780 In reason or truth.

00:19:58.320 This will change when Americans decide, yeah, you know what?

00:20:02.740 The truth comes first.

00:20:04.600 Good morning, and welcome to the program.

00:20:11.020 I'm glad you're here.

00:20:12.760 Let me get your thoughts on even the legality of what is happening in the White House, supposedly.

00:20:24.020 Brian, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:27.540 Good morning, Glenn.

00:20:28.380 Hi.

00:20:29.640 Do you think there's a chance Trump has put this out on his own, given that he loves the environment of chaos?

00:20:37.080 I love this theory.

00:20:38.720 So it would be John Barron, right?

00:20:41.320 John Barron is the high-level official.

00:20:42.560 Yes, yes.

00:20:43.320 No, I can't.

00:20:45.480 I can't imagine that.

00:20:47.700 I mean, I do think that he enjoys chaos, but I can't see a way this helps him in any way.

00:20:56.620 Does it distract from the Woodward book?

00:20:58.960 I think it emphasizes the Woodward book.

00:21:01.060 If anything else, it probably draws attention, too.

00:21:03.280 Yeah, I think so, too.

00:21:04.720 I'd say it's a fun theory.

00:21:06.280 I don't think...

00:21:07.360 I mean, they're actually running odds now on who it is.

00:21:10.040 The casinos are coming up with odds.

00:21:13.300 Where do you make your bet on this, Glenn?

00:21:15.600 So they've got Mike Pence at minus 150, which means you have to bet $150 to win $100.

00:21:21.440 I mean, that's terrible.

00:21:23.120 They have Pence high because of this lodestar thing.

00:21:25.840 We haven't talked about it, really.

00:21:27.300 He used the word lodestar in the...

00:21:29.740 Can I give you a...

00:21:30.200 May I give you a theory?

00:21:32.540 You can.

00:21:33.100 You don't want the rest of the odds.

00:21:34.220 I do.

00:21:34.800 I do.

00:21:35.240 But I think this will affect the odds.

00:21:36.740 Okay.

00:21:37.160 Okay?

00:21:37.780 Mike Pence.

00:21:39.080 I just don't think Mike Pence wrote this.

00:21:42.080 No.

00:21:42.960 I don't either.

00:21:43.560 And, you know, maybe it's a setup.

00:21:46.980 Maybe somebody is setting him up to look like the guy who did this.

00:21:50.620 I don't know.

00:21:51.800 That's what I was thinking.

00:21:53.360 Okay.

00:21:53.700 So here's...

00:21:56.400 They reference the 25th Amendment.

00:21:59.100 You have Donald Trump, who is already a caged animal, right?

00:22:05.820 He is feeling very alone.

00:22:08.380 He just gave an interview just last weekend where he talked about how alone he feels.

00:22:13.260 Okay?

00:22:14.380 It's a lonely job in the first place.

00:22:16.640 You're surrounded by enemies always busting you in the head.

00:22:21.720 You're paranoid.

00:22:23.300 We know he's a paranoid guy.

00:22:24.940 You're paranoid as it is, and he has reason to be paranoid right now.

00:22:31.640 And then you release this.

00:22:35.020 What is that going to do besides bring out probably more erratic behavior?

00:22:41.660 Right.

00:22:41.860 Is this a possible setup to bring a more unstable president out so you would have more evidence

00:22:51.700 of the 25th Amendment?

00:22:52.700 If you got together in a group and you'd say, let's do that, the argument would be, we don't

00:22:58.000 have enough evidence.

00:22:58.920 We don't have enough people that would testify on this, this, and this.

00:23:03.240 He'd have to do these things.

00:23:06.060 Well, wouldn't this help?

00:23:07.800 And that's an insane game you're playing there.

00:23:10.280 Insane.

00:23:10.660 But you have to imagine, you know, the end game is not an op-ed, right?

00:23:14.740 Like, the end game is not, hey, I'm going to write something, and then maybe someday people

00:23:19.140 will think better of me.

00:23:20.380 I don't know.

00:23:21.160 That seems hard to believe.

00:23:24.540 And by the way, the lodestar thing is, he used the word lodestar in the L-O-D-E-S-T-A-R

00:23:31.620 in the op-ed.

00:23:33.780 Lodestar means a star that leads or guides, especially a north star, one that serves as

00:23:38.560 an inspiration.

00:23:40.140 Most people would use north star or polar star.

00:23:42.680 And almost nobody, I've probably never heard anyone in my life use the word lodestar.

00:23:47.460 So my first thought when I was reading that, I'm like, lodestar?

00:23:51.060 Who the heck uses that word?

00:23:52.480 And I was like, the first thing I would do if I was at the White House is I'd be searching

00:23:55.300 the internal email service servers to see who's ever used the word lodestar.

00:24:00.060 Because obviously, if you're writing this about yourself, you're going to make sure you don't

00:24:04.660 use a word associated with you.

00:24:06.860 If you have phrasing that you use all the time, you're not going to put it in your op-ed

00:24:10.840 because everyone's going to notice it.

00:24:11.880 It'd be like me, right?

00:24:12.700 You know, do your own homework or the world's about to come to an end.

00:24:16.400 You just don't put that in there.

00:24:17.600 No, it was Glenn.

00:24:18.200 Right.

00:24:18.560 So when you're doing something like this, you're going to make sure to not include something

00:24:23.660 that's associated with you publicly.

00:24:25.660 So I thought you got to search these email servers.

00:24:27.520 Maybe somebody does use that privately.

00:24:29.040 And they did.

00:24:29.640 I'm sure they did.

00:24:30.540 But however, what they found and what people have found so far is that Mike Pence actually

00:24:35.580 does use the word publicly often.

00:24:38.620 And that to me screams somebody targeting Pence.

00:24:42.640 Somebody who wants Pence out of there, out of the circle of trust, knows that Pence uses

00:24:48.440 that word all the time and is trying to go after him as part of this thing.

00:24:55.240 So let me say this, if that would be true, then everything else this person wrote would

00:25:05.760 be false because Pence will be a moderating voice there.

00:25:11.520 Yes.

00:25:12.000 You know what I mean?

00:25:12.420 All reports indicate he has been.

00:25:13.980 Right.

00:25:14.540 So if you're trying to set Pence up or separate him from the president, you're not helping moderate

00:25:21.920 things.

00:25:22.680 Yeah.

00:25:22.820 You're trying to upset the apple cart because Pence is blocking you from your access or your

00:25:29.900 point of view with the president.

00:25:31.520 It could very well be, too, someone who might be an establishment figure.

00:25:35.500 It praises McCain in the op-ed.

00:25:37.560 Yeah.

00:25:37.800 Could be someone from that wing who doesn't like the sort of more conservative leanings of

00:25:42.440 Pence.

00:25:42.600 Yes.

00:25:43.140 That's possible as well.

00:25:44.140 That's what I mean.

00:25:44.680 Yeah.

00:25:45.000 So, I mean, minus 150 for Mike Pence is a terrible bet.

00:25:47.660 I can't imagine it's actually him.

00:25:49.100 I can't either.

00:25:49.700 Betsy DeVos, two to one. 0.99

00:25:51.220 Betsy DeVos, I don't see as someone who would do that. 1.00

00:25:54.300 Pompeo at four to one.

00:25:55.880 Mnuchin at four to one.

00:25:57.640 Mattis at five to one.

00:25:59.660 Sessions five to one.

00:26:01.480 Ivanka 12 to one.

00:26:03.340 Jared Kushner 12 to one.

00:26:04.540 Those are terrible bets.

00:26:05.800 And Stephen Miller at 15 to one.

00:26:08.400 Now, Miller, it's certainly not his style of writing.

00:26:11.520 But again, you might be trying.

00:26:12.540 You're going to try to hide yourself.

00:26:14.020 The one, if I had to pick one out of that group, where are you putting your money?

00:26:16.460 I think I might go Mnuchin.

00:26:18.440 He's very, he's well-known, well-respected in the business community.

00:26:22.420 He is a guy who, he's not outspoken.

00:26:26.420 He is the guy who has not come out and criticized the administration in any of these turns.

00:26:31.720 He, I don't know.

00:26:33.820 Four to one.

00:26:34.940 If I had to bet off that list, that's probably where I'm going.

00:26:37.120 I mean, I don't think it's Pompeo.

00:26:39.700 DeVos has had really, you know, pretty strong backing from the president, even though she's been under fire.

00:26:45.900 Do you know who her brother is?

00:26:47.520 Yeah.

00:26:48.440 Eric Prince.

00:26:50.320 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:26:51.720 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:26:52.820 Eric Prince from Blackwater?

00:26:54.380 Uh-huh.

00:26:54.920 Mm-hmm.

00:26:55.180 Eric is not necessarily the, uh, you know, the prince on the white horse.

00:27:07.460 I mean, I, I, he is kind of a, uh, dark figure that would be the kind of guy that would think three-dimensional chess.

00:27:21.320 Who's standing in your way, Betsy? 1.00

00:27:23.660 Who's standing in your way?

00:27:26.080 Um, yeah, I mean, again, we're all just reaching and speculating.

00:27:30.200 I'm told, this is total speculation.

00:27:32.780 But so you're saying that's, that's not as crazy.

00:27:35.240 Maybe that's why she's two to one. 1.00

00:27:36.360 I don't know Betsy at all.

00:27:37.280 And I don't think Betsy is like her brother.

00:27:39.260 She's also, uh, you know, very wealthy and, you know, very independent.

00:27:43.560 Oh, yeah.

00:27:43.760 Already has a high-level position.

00:27:45.120 Right.

00:27:45.460 And I don't, I don't, I, but the, ah.

00:27:52.080 It's, it's a fact, it is, like, I, I think it's a good thing.

00:27:55.160 I think the idea that it's, I think your analysis yesterday of the Woodward book holds up really well today.

00:28:02.220 Because, once again, what you get out of this, I think, is a summary of things we've known for a long time.

00:28:10.120 That, of course, there are people who are in the administration that are not big Trump fans and don't like his trade wars and don't like his Russia, you know, him liking Russia.

00:28:19.720 The example they use is that one.

00:28:21.520 Where, you know, hey, we're at a two-track presidency.

00:28:24.040 You know, Trump is friendly to people like Putin.

00:28:28.180 And we have gone a different direction.

00:28:29.960 But that's not thwarting the presidency.

00:28:31.620 All those things have been public.

00:28:33.260 Trump knows and signs off on all of those things.

00:28:35.360 They've convinced him it was right to sanction these people.

00:28:37.780 They've convinced him it is right to pull these people out.

00:28:40.560 That's totally, there's nothing wrong with that at all.

00:28:42.480 But again, think three, you know what?

00:28:45.220 I know it sounds crazy to, to think conspiratorial in, in, in situations like this.

00:28:56.140 However, you know, Tom Clancy novels, they're, they're based in reality.

00:29:03.860 I mean, if I hadn't have witnessed some things myself in, uh, government and in administrations and with the media, if I hadn't have witnessed them myself and quite honestly had, had people like Stu next to me, who I can later go back and go, I'm remembering this right.

00:29:25.280 Correct.

00:29:26.400 I mean, Stu, there have been things that have been, have been ripped right out of a, of a Clancy novel that we have experienced.

00:29:37.920 Insane journey.

00:29:38.820 That's for sure.

00:29:39.500 Insane.

00:29:40.220 And you'd be like, when it's happening to you or happening around you, you're like, shut the hell up.

00:29:46.920 Are everybody punking me?

00:29:48.100 And they're not.

00:29:50.220 So to, to take this on its face value, maybe what you should do, but I can't, I cannot get past the point that.

00:30:02.860 They say they want to make an impact and that Donald Trump has, um, uh, undemocratic tendencies and he likes people like Putin.

00:30:14.560 Well, what, what just happened in England?

00:30:18.400 Theresa May just gave a speech, uh, in front of parliament.

00:30:21.620 That's really important.

00:30:23.220 Listen to this.

00:30:23.960 This is Theresa May yesterday in front of parliament regarding Russia.

00:30:27.560 We were right to say in March that the Russian state was responsible. 0.99

00:30:32.320 And now we have identified the individuals involved.

00:30:34.940 We can go even further based on this work.

00:30:38.060 I can today tell the house that based on a body of intelligence,

00:30:41.560 intelligence, the government has concluded that the two individuals named by the police and CPS are officers from the Russian military intelligence service.

00:30:53.680 Also known as the GRU.

00:30:55.880 Okay.

00:30:56.080 Stop.

00:30:56.560 This is, this is huge earth shattering news.

00:31:01.020 This is an act of war.

00:31:03.080 Okay.

00:31:04.440 This will require England's not going to sit, um, uh, and sit on their hands on this.

00:31:10.600 So this will require possibly extra sanctions.

00:31:15.560 So we know this is coming out.

00:31:18.560 You know, if you're in the administration, you have that information.

00:31:21.860 This, this letter specifically says Russia's bad.

00:31:26.540 And we've put all these policies that he's not wanting to do.

00:31:30.440 Well, knowing Donald Trump, once you tell him, don't do something, he'll do it.

00:31:36.240 Yeah.

00:31:37.140 Now you're alerting him that we've manipulated you on Russia.

00:31:42.700 Yeah.

00:31:43.600 And this is going to be the one he's going to push back on.

00:31:45.480 You'd think.

00:31:46.000 Yes.

00:31:46.380 This may be the, again, this is all just speculation, but maybe it's someone from the sort of nationalist side of things.

00:31:53.380 Yes.

00:31:53.700 Could be.

00:31:54.180 Doesn't want the, doesn't like what they've done.

00:31:56.040 Correct.

00:31:56.400 Trump on Russia.

00:31:57.420 Correct.

00:31:57.980 And they are masquerading as someone else.

00:32:01.220 This is totally a house of cards.

00:32:02.780 It is totally a house of cards.

00:32:03.980 It's happening in real life.

00:32:04.980 Yes.

00:32:06.020 I mean, you cannot take these things.

00:32:08.580 That's why secrecy and transparency is the answer to everything.

00:32:14.700 That's why my stance in the end on this is this person must come out and identify themselves and go on the record.

00:32:24.580 This kind of cloak and dagger stuff is very unhealthy for the Republic.

00:32:29.960 It is very unhealthy for the general public as well.

00:32:34.200 This is not going to lead us to anything good.

00:32:40.100 No, it definitely, I mean, because this is, there's two ways to go about this, right?

00:32:45.820 You resign, you come out, you make a public statement.

00:32:48.440 This is why I disagree.

00:32:49.520 He's doing something really bad for us.

00:32:51.100 The other way is to go the way of, you know, Francis Underwood.

00:32:58.260 We just talked about a house of cards.

00:33:00.140 Yeah.

00:33:00.340 Do you really want to discuss courage?

00:33:01.880 Because anyone can commit suicide or spout their mouth in front of a camera.

00:33:05.240 But you want to know what really takes courage?

00:33:07.660 Keeping your mouth shut no matter what you might be feeling.

00:33:09.740 And it's, I always found that to be such a great quote because there's so many times that all you want to do is stand up and say, I'm going to write an op-ed because I'm doing something great.

00:33:19.340 If this person is really doing something, let's just say to protect the country, your courage lies in your silence.

00:33:26.740 Not coming out and running your mouth to the New York Times.

00:33:29.600 The more we talk about this, the more the something's wrong here.

00:33:32.480 I just, I just, something's wrong.

00:33:36.600 Something's wrong here.

00:33:37.600 There's a lot of things wrong.

00:33:39.060 There's a lot of things wrong.

00:33:39.360 No matter what.

00:33:39.860 I don't think that this story is the surface level that we're seeing.

00:33:46.460 I just, maybe it is.

00:33:48.620 Maybe it is.

00:33:49.560 But just, I can't put this puzzle together.

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00:35:40.480 Glenn, back.

00:35:41.640 We'll continue to take your phone calls and get your feelings on this deep state.

00:35:49.620 I mean, it's not deep state, but it is.

00:35:52.560 It's not the same kind of deep state, but this is a shadow government, and I'm not comfortable with this in any way, shape, or form.

00:36:01.080 Now, there is the possibility, as Stu and I were just talking about off air,

00:36:04.600 that there's this possibility that the New York Times took somebody who is not at a very high level

00:36:11.800 and is publishing this anonymously.

00:36:16.580 If this isn't a cabinet level or just below cabinet level, if this is not a serious player,

00:36:26.940 the New York Times should be just a roundhouse kick to the face.

00:36:33.800 Yeah, I mean, even people on the left are saying that.

00:36:37.540 They're saying, like, this better be something good, essentially, is the way they're looking at it.

00:36:41.340 Now, of course, they want to tear down the president, but they are saying,

00:36:44.540 I mean, when you say senior-level official, it could mean a bunch of things, and that's a totally...

00:36:48.440 Yeah, no, it's got to be somebody who has serious, serious access.

00:36:52.040 Glenn, back.

00:36:53.540 Mercury.

00:36:56.920 Glenn, back.

00:36:58.340 California continues to be the test case in how not to run a state.

00:37:06.100 I hope the rest of the nation is paying attention, because California keeps passing mind-blowingly bad laws

00:37:12.060 that have little to do with the constitutional concept of freedom.

00:37:16.300 And Texas is paying the price, because all of these Froot Loops from California are moving here. 0.98

00:37:23.460 The latest example is a law now that California Senate passed last week

00:37:29.400 that is now on its way to Governor Jerry Brown's desk to be signed.

00:37:34.140 California Senate Bill 826 is going to force publicly traded companies based in California

00:37:40.960 to have at least one woman on their boards by 2019.

00:37:46.400 That's next year.

00:37:47.480 By 2021, companies there will be required to have one to three women on their board, depending on the size. 0.92

00:37:58.240 Are you...

00:37:59.040 Excuse me?

00:37:59.740 How can this be constitutional?

00:38:01.160 It's not constitutional.

00:38:02.620 Look at...

00:38:02.900 First of all, post-modernist, socialist people who are out to destroy the country,

00:38:10.700 you might be willing to accept both arguments.

00:38:15.100 One, women are no different than men. 0.75

00:38:18.080 How dare you say women are any different than men?

00:38:20.940 They're exactly the same.

00:38:22.820 And two, and women have to be on every board because they bring something unique. 1.00

00:38:28.860 But I don't buy into that.

00:38:31.680 You can't have it both ways.

00:38:34.460 I believe social media would be very well served by having both liberals and conservatives on their board.

00:38:41.820 But I also believe in freedom.

00:38:46.620 And so I'm not for forcing them to have conservatives on their board.

00:38:53.480 This is the first mandated gender quota law in the nation, and it will not be the last. 0.72

00:38:59.600 Now, let's be really clear as you're getting ready to write your hate mail.

00:39:03.980 This is not a terrible law because more women might end up in company boardrooms. 1.00

00:39:07.680 I'm sure most companies could benefit from the expertise, wisdom, and perspective that some women can provide. 1.00

00:39:16.020 Just like some men can provide. 0.89

00:39:19.320 What do you say you get the best and brightest minds and you don't care about the color of the skin?

00:39:24.320 You don't care about the packaging.

00:39:26.100 This is a terrible law because this is a classic case of big government getting bigger and reaching into areas that it has no business touching.

00:39:37.200 This will hurt businesses, and it brings you one step closer to democratic socialism.

00:39:45.300 Criticizing this law has nothing to do with misogyny and everything to do with liberty.

00:39:50.260 It is the principle of the matter, and I know we don't like to talk about principles anymore or truth, but both of those are the reason we're in this mess, because we keep rejecting them.

00:40:03.300 Government should never be able to mandate quotas like this.

00:40:06.980 Once you crack that door open, especially in a predominantly progressive state like California, there is no limit to what the government will interfere with in an effort to fix things and impose progressively approved morality, which will cause all the Californians to move to Texas.

00:40:25.060 While California senators are patting themselves on the back for their forward thinking, their forced equality, every other group that perceives any sort of discrimination is now drawing up plans for their own government demanded quota.

00:40:40.840 It will not stop until the quotas required 200 board members at every company.

00:40:48.380 Oh, you know what?

00:40:50.600 No, maybe we should just maybe maybe the workers should own the companies. 0.96

00:40:57.640 Maybe all of these companies should be a real reflection of the people, and maybe the state should run those companies.

00:41:06.540 If you think that that is crazy, you have no idea what postmodernism means and what its goal is.

00:41:19.740 State controlled property.

00:41:23.280 No, thank you.

00:41:24.660 California, there's a reason people are moving out of your state.

00:41:28.500 You are unfriendly to business and quite honestly, to human common sense.

00:41:36.540 It's Thursday, September 6th.

00:41:41.520 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:43.780 I wanted to add human because, I mean, I think the spotted owls probably love him.

00:41:47.780 They probably love it, and I think that's fantastic.

00:41:50.960 Could you, could the government pass a law that requires a company to hire a certain gender for a specific job?

00:41:58.860 Like, if you were to say, hey, you doctor, doctor's office, you have a new doctor's opening, it must be a woman. 1.00

00:42:07.120 I don't think that's constitutional, right?

00:42:09.240 So, walk through the situation.

00:42:10.980 In 2019, it comes up and someone is on a board, and there's five men on the board, and one decides to retire.

00:42:19.000 They would be forcing this company to hire a woman. 1.00

00:42:23.380 They would not be able to look at any male applicants.

00:42:26.560 Correct.

00:42:26.940 That cannot be constitutional.

00:42:28.680 There's an equal protection situation there, isn't there?

00:42:31.740 I mean, get the government out of my business.

00:42:35.600 It's certainly wrong.

00:42:37.020 It's certainly wrong.

00:42:37.800 Now, of course, as you point out, I mean, it would be fine.

00:42:39.760 Obviously, having women on boards is great. 1.00

00:42:41.660 I mean, it's just like having men on.

00:42:43.200 It's, you know, get the smartest person, whether it's a male or a female should be our approach.

00:42:46.840 But the idea that you would have to be locking a company into a specific gender.

00:42:53.380 Now, again, what does that mean for a transgendered person?

00:42:56.120 What does that mean for someone who's pansexual or asexual or genderqueer or genderfluid?

00:43:02.220 Did they have no roles?

00:43:04.980 Could they not be able to be considered either, would they?

00:43:07.800 Mm-mm.

00:43:08.620 No.

00:43:09.040 No, it has to be a woman. 1.00

00:43:09.760 And if you don't have any pansexuals, how are they going to represent this company?

00:43:14.200 How is this company going to be fair to pansexuals? 1.00

00:43:18.740 You have male, female, and 183 other genders.

00:43:24.080 You have to have all of the genders. 0.51

00:43:25.620 And I got this.

00:43:26.880 By the time you hire 183, it'll be higher than 183.

00:43:29.360 I'll tell you that much.

00:43:30.820 You'll never catch that number.

00:43:32.480 I want to spend some time talking to you on the phones today about this particular issue of the op-ed piece in the New York Times.

00:43:44.760 Also, we're going to be doing open phones today at 5 o'clock on the Glenn Beck Program on television on the Blaze TV network.

00:43:52.440 You can access that online, or you can access that on your local cable or satellite channel.

00:44:02.360 You can ask me anything tonight, 5 o'clock.

00:44:05.080 I recommend that you start calling around 430, 445, and get in line, 888-727-BECK.

00:44:12.240 888-727-BECK.

00:44:14.180 That is also the phone number, and we're going to the phones now.

00:44:17.000 Let's go to Kirk in Florida.

00:44:18.860 Hello, Kirk.

00:44:19.460 Kirk, your thoughts on the New York Times editorial and what it means.

00:44:25.220 Well, first of all, I never touch the New York Times unless I'm using it to start a fire.

00:44:32.020 Second of all, since the dawn of humankind, persons in governance have stabbed each other in the back.

00:44:40.440 None of this is new.

00:44:41.640 It's just much more amplified.

00:44:44.880 Now, does Trump have imperfections?

00:44:47.440 Absolutely.

00:44:47.920 Does he need people around him so that he doesn't break the rules?

00:44:54.880 Absolutely.

00:44:56.260 I would expect that of any person in my presidency.

00:45:02.340 It's my presidency.

00:45:03.720 I put him there.

00:45:04.820 I am the voter.

00:45:05.800 Problem being is, we, the voter, used Trump as a diamond-tip drill to bore through the 1% shielding against us.

00:45:19.520 And that's why this is all happening.

00:45:21.300 They want to punish us by destroying Trump and destroying anyone who breathes his name, all to protect themselves and to try and create their socialist utopia.

00:45:36.260 That's all there is to it.

00:45:41.160 I don't know if I can go all the way there with you, but I don't rule anything out.

00:45:46.220 We were just talking about, you know, Frank Underwood and the Netflix show, House of Cards.

00:45:54.900 And, you know, how crazy that looked when it first came on.

00:45:59.820 I think it makes more sense now.

00:46:02.120 I understand that world more than I understand what's happening right now.

00:46:07.040 I think we have gone so far off the deep end that I can't predict.

00:46:12.940 And there's what sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory.

00:46:18.180 Maybe just that may not be.

00:46:20.280 I have no idea because truth doesn't matter on either side.

00:46:23.480 Truth does not matter anymore.

00:46:25.320 You know, as far as the just the constant chaos, we have talked so much in the Obama administration about, you know, the idea of overwhelming the system.

00:46:33.920 Remember talking about that all the time?

00:46:35.340 And it was, you know, there's intent by, I think, some people.

00:46:38.080 It's been outlined by, you know, people who are, you know, who are deep in philosophy and ways to get things done.

00:46:44.820 Francis Fox Piven.

00:46:50.480 Yeah.

00:46:51.320 Got to confirm the name.

00:46:52.460 It's been a while since we went over that.

00:46:54.380 But, you know, this is outlined for a long time in various different ways.

00:46:57.700 But those times seem quaint to me, honestly.

00:46:59.780 When it comes to just the chaos of the news coverage and how hyperbolic everybody is about everything and how how how obsessed we are, obsessed we are with like we were talking about this before we had we were playing audio before the show.

00:47:13.380 Every morning we go through the audio clips that we have for the day.

00:47:16.380 And I want to say at least half, if not more, of the Democrats on various points on all of these audio clips were just coming up with some incredible amount of mental gymnastics to blame whatever issue it was on race.

00:47:31.740 The the obsession of about skin color from these people is incredible. 0.99

00:47:38.180 They all identify themselves solely by their skin color or how they feel about people with different skin.

00:47:44.540 We have to get to this maybe maybe next hour.

00:47:47.060 We have to get to this because I have a an interesting perspective on this that that, you know, coincides with what's in the book addicted to outrage.

00:47:59.840 And I there's we bring up, say exactly what you just did.

00:48:08.220 Maybe next hour.

00:48:09.660 I can't recapture that magic.

00:48:10.920 I think you could.

00:48:12.860 Let me go to Zach in Ohio.

00:48:14.760 Hello, Zach.

00:48:16.700 Hey, Glenn.

00:48:17.480 Thank you for taking my call.

00:48:18.480 You bet.

00:48:19.280 The greatest threat to our nation and the West at large is not Donald Trump.

00:48:24.060 It's not the deep state.

00:48:25.380 It's a threat that's largely ignored by mainstream media and even right wing talk radio.

00:48:31.020 In the year 1900, whites made up 30 percent of the world population.

00:48:35.360 Passed forward 118 years later, we now only make up 8 percent of the world population.

00:48:40.300 In the next 100 years, Africa will be African. 1.00

00:48:42.800 Asia will be Asian. 1.00

00:48:43.780 The Middle East will still largely be Arab and Persian.

00:48:46.140 But Europe will be Arab and African and largely Muslim.

00:48:49.960 If this is happening to any other group of people, it would be called genocide.

00:48:52.700 I encourage your audience to Google white genocide because you know. 0.58

00:48:56.940 Thank you very much.

00:48:58.440 Why is genocide?

00:48:59.460 It's not white genocide.

00:49:01.200 It is white.

00:49:01.680 Birth rates of one society outpacing another's is not genocide.

00:49:05.080 Is it genocide?

00:49:06.520 What's happening in Japan?

00:49:08.500 No, they're not having sex.

00:49:10.280 They're not having children.

00:49:11.420 They're not reproducing.

00:49:12.860 This is all by choice.

00:49:14.480 White genocide. 0.58

00:49:15.400 Get off the phone.

00:49:16.840 Jeff in Ohio.

00:49:18.400 By the way, that's not what he told the phone screener.

00:49:21.780 Go ahead, Jeff.

00:49:23.660 Hey, Glenn.

00:49:24.300 Good to talk to you.

00:49:25.620 I'm telling the screener that my whole issue is I am disgusted many times with the president's behavior,

00:49:33.520 whether it be at Twitter, on TV, whatever it might be.

00:49:36.700 But I like his policy.

00:49:38.800 And so I'm in this conundrum where how do I balance these two?

00:49:43.040 And I can't support what he says, but I'm supporting what he does.

00:49:48.500 So I think that's where the trouble is on this.

00:49:53.100 And and this is what we we got ourselves into.

00:49:58.280 And you you have to deal with the cognitive dissonance now.

00:50:04.740 You know, what we did is we we we hired a guy and we knew these things.

00:50:10.780 We knew that he doesn't you know that he doesn't always tell exactly the truth.

00:50:14.980 We know that he's a salesman.

00:50:16.400 That's the best way to describe him.

00:50:18.100 He's a salesman.

00:50:19.260 You got to have this.

00:50:20.320 It's the biggest.

00:50:20.960 It's the best.

00:50:21.520 It's going to change your life.

00:50:23.260 OK, can I read?

00:50:24.600 Give me all the specs here.

00:50:27.360 He's a salesperson.

00:50:28.600 So we hired a salesperson.

00:50:31.680 We hired a guy who we said we want to not me.

00:50:35.520 Many people want to burn down the state.

00:50:38.500 I don't want to burn down the state.

00:50:40.200 I want to expose the bad guys.

00:50:43.760 He's not a good guy at exposing the bad guys because he surrounds himself,

00:50:48.780 at least, you know, in the first part of his administration with bad guys.

00:50:53.080 I mean, you know, Michael Cohen and, you know, Bannon and all these people that he now kind

00:50:57.180 of identifies as bad.

00:50:58.600 Yeah, we're good.

00:50:59.500 Pretty plainly bad at the beginning.

00:51:01.260 Correct.

00:51:02.060 So the problem here is and I think this is where most people are.

00:51:06.880 I think Donald Trump is a danger to the health of the republic.

00:51:12.700 I think left to his own purposes or his own tendencies, I do think that he likes Putin.

00:51:21.720 I think that he understands Putin and Kim Jong-un more than he would understand Teresa May or

00:51:29.300 one of our other allies that believes in democracy, you know, that believes in a constitutional

00:51:34.980 republic that that has checks and balances.

00:51:39.300 That's not good.

00:51:40.560 I think his instincts on trade, horrible.

00:51:46.560 Some of his instincts are awful, but that's the things that those were the things that

00:51:52.440 Ted Cruz said.

00:51:53.460 Those are New York City liberal values.

00:51:55.780 He grew up believing these things.

00:51:58.060 He grew up believing big government, you know, trade wars, all of those things that are not

00:52:04.540 good and not conservative.

00:52:08.340 I mean, he was known for being the most powerful executive.

00:52:11.280 I mean, the apprentice certainly assists that.

00:52:13.540 And so, yes, he likes executive power.

00:52:15.200 He loves executive power.

00:52:16.560 OK, so that's not something that conservatives would like.

00:52:20.580 But they made the bargain with the devil and they said, OK, he's going to be able to get

00:52:25.600 these things done.

00:52:26.900 And he has done a lot of things that I never thought he would do.

00:52:31.300 I never thought he would do.

00:52:32.500 And you're saying in a good way.

00:52:33.320 In a good way.

00:52:33.660 Yeah, he's but he's also done a lot of the bad things I knew he was going to do.

00:52:39.940 So you now have to make a choice.

00:52:43.340 My feeling on this has been I want good people around him.

00:52:49.600 And I think we've gotten to that point.

00:52:52.120 I want them to advise him.

00:52:54.400 However, I'm concerned that this is a is a secret cabal.

00:53:01.240 I'm sorry.

00:53:02.680 We didn't elect you, Anonymous.

00:53:05.340 We have no idea who you are.

00:53:07.760 You have no right to thwart the people's choice.

00:53:12.720 If he's a threat, then you must make that case.

00:53:17.740 You cannot take things off of his desk, you know, and I am torn because I think his instincts

00:53:26.100 are horrible, horrible.

00:53:29.680 I I'm I'm I personally celebrate that there's people around him going, don't say that.

00:53:36.120 Don't show him that.

00:53:37.280 However, it's wrong constitutionally and in principle, it is wrong.

00:53:44.560 If you accept it now, it will happen.

00:53:48.220 The next president and the next president, the next president.

00:53:51.780 And we're going to hear from the media if that one of those presidents is a Democrat, which

00:53:55.920 they will be.

00:53:57.160 If somebody is in there thwarting them, we're going to hear the exact opposite.

00:54:02.360 They will be demanding the name of who is doing it.

00:54:07.060 We must be consistent and we must base it in principles on the subject of somebody thwarting

00:54:15.220 him anonymously.

00:54:16.740 I think it's unconstitutional.

00:54:18.960 I think it is a very dangerous thing, even though I am so torn because I I'm glad somebody

00:54:30.200 that is there doing it.

00:54:33.160 All right.

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00:56:01.720 So what should journalists be doing right now?

00:56:12.680 What role do they, do they, should they be playing?

00:56:16.660 Should be looking for actual facts.

00:56:19.420 Most people don't know what brought the Jim Crow South, um, to the forefront.

00:56:26.980 What, what, what captured people's imaginations, what reporting was done, um, in the North to

00:56:37.120 expose this by white journalists, an amazing story that you've most likely never heard next.

00:56:45.980 I picked up a book, um, I don't know, about a month ago, uh, 30 days, a black man.

00:56:59.120 And the, the title just jumped off, uh, the page at me.

00:57:05.180 Uh, and it's the, the forgotten story that exposed the Jim Crow South.

00:57:10.380 And it really, it long before anybody else, uh, there was a journalist who decided, you

00:57:18.440 know what, I'm going to go see for myself if this is actually happening.

00:57:23.140 And if it is, I'm going to expose it.

00:57:25.840 Uh, and he, he's a, he's a guy that you've probably never heard of and you should, um,

00:57:32.900 bill Steigerwald.

00:57:33.980 He's the author of 30 days, a black man.

00:57:36.520 And he joins us now.

00:57:37.460 Can you, can you set the stage?

00:57:39.580 I don't think most people even know this guy's name.

00:57:43.300 Yes.

00:57:43.740 His name is, hi, Glenn.

00:57:45.280 And thank you very much for giving me this chance to talk about my, my book.

00:57:49.620 Um, and it's a book about a, a, a great hero of journalism, which, um, we could probably

00:57:55.560 use some more of these days.

00:57:57.240 His name is Ray Sprigle, S P R I G L E.

00:58:01.580 Most people haven't heard of him, especially today.

00:58:03.920 Um, it rhymes with wiggle and he was a, he had won a Pulitzer in 1938 for, for, uh, uh,

00:58:12.340 exposing the fact that Hugo black had been a lifetime member of the KKK and he'd just

00:58:17.900 been named, um, uh, Supreme court justice by FDR.

00:58:23.960 Um, he was a nationally known newsman and, and he was famous for going undercover.

00:58:28.080 He, he went undercover once as a, as a, um, a coal miner, he went undercover several times

00:58:34.440 into mental state, mental hospitals, which are absolutely horrible places.

00:58:37.860 Once as a, once as a patient, once as a guard, um, he was an amazing, uh, reporter, a great

00:58:45.320 writer.

00:58:45.800 He had done fiction in his youth.

00:58:47.500 He was, uh, uh, a major pulp fiction writer, uh, up and coming one, certainly, uh, in the

00:58:53.820 early 1910s, maybe he showed up in Pittsburgh, became a newsman and, and he spent, I don't

00:59:00.560 even know, 45 years, uh, being an incredible newsman.

00:59:04.680 And in 1948, um, he decided he wanted to see what life was really like for the roughly

00:59:12.720 10 million, uh, black Americans living in the Jim Crow South.

00:59:16.260 And so he, and he knew that the only way he was really going to find out for himself

00:59:20.960 was to, was to go down there.

00:59:22.580 But obviously he was, he was as white as I guess we are when he was a German American.

00:59:27.880 And, uh, so he, uh, you know, immediately started figuring out, well, how am I going

00:59:31.740 to dye my skin?

00:59:33.640 And he tried mahogany juice and walnut juice and all this stuff.

00:59:37.740 And finally he, he just ended up getting a heavy tan.

00:59:40.940 And that, that, uh, advice was given to him by people at the NAACP.

00:59:45.660 He reached out to Walter White, another for unbelievably great hero, forgotten dynamo of

00:59:52.360 his race.

00:59:52.900 He was called he, he, and the NAACP, which he ran from about the early 1930s to the, to

01:00:00.140 1955, you know, with Thurgood Marshall and all the, all the law cases that were brought

01:00:05.700 and all the, all the work that was done was pretty much done by the NAACP, or at least

01:00:09.940 certainly led by them.

01:00:11.200 And Walter White was, was unlike, uh, what do we have?

01:00:14.640 We have Al Sharpton visiting the Obama White House about 87 times.

01:00:19.260 Um, Walter White visited the FDR and Truman White Houses.

01:00:23.000 And, and, uh, once you find out about Walter White, you'll, you'll know, you know what

01:00:28.300 a hero he was too.

01:00:29.600 Anyway, Spriggle met up with the NAACP people.

01:00:32.780 They said, just get a heavy, heavy tan.

01:00:35.160 We'll give you a guide through the South, um, who will take you through the black world. 0.99

01:00:40.880 Uh, Spriggle didn't go down there, you know, as a, as a newspaper man, he went down there

01:00:44.940 as a, supposedly as a light-skinned black man from Pittsburgh who was doing field work

01:00:51.360 for the NAACP.

01:00:53.200 And he was guided by a man named John Wesley Dobbs, another superstar, black man, uh, pioneering

01:00:58.980 social political, um, leader in Atlanta.

01:01:02.060 His grandson was Maynard Jackson Jr.

01:01:05.880 And Dobbs basically hosted him at his house and, uh, gave him a tour of the South from Savannah

01:01:13.220 to the Delta over about 30 days.

01:01:16.240 These two old codgers. 0.97

01:01:17.400 Now, Spriggle was 61 and Dobbs was 66.

01:01:19.760 These guys were at the top of their games.

01:01:21.900 They were both accomplished, brilliant men.

01:01:24.320 Dobbs drove around quoting Shakespeare and, uh, English poets, you know, whole passages of

01:01:31.880 Poland.

01:01:32.780 He was a self-educated, powerful orator.

01:01:36.200 These two dudes were driving around the South for a month in, in May of 1948 and Spriggle,

01:01:42.220 because he was passing himself off as a, an NAACP guy, could take notes.

01:01:47.340 And so they would visit, uh, sharecroppers, principals of, uh, or teachers in, in black,

01:01:53.040 horrible black, uh, elementary school. 0.70

01:01:55.560 Um, they, you know, ate and drank beer in joint.

01:02:00.160 So, so what, Bill, what was it that, what was it the stories that he brought back that

01:02:06.280 took white America by surprise?

01:02:09.540 Well, at that time, in 1948, the big media of the day was print and newspapers were very, uh, you know, powerful and important.

01:02:19.640 Uh, if you wanted to read about what was going on in the Arab Israeli war, which broke out while

01:02:23.720 they were on their little tour in the spring of 48, you could go to your local Connellsville,

01:02:29.240 you know, gazette and, and there on the front page would be maps of the, of the Middle East and

01:02:34.200 all that, but there were, there were very distinct, um, uh, in the whole country was segregated North

01:02:40.860 and South in many, many ways, shocking ways, really horrible ways, uh, shameful ways.

01:02:45.860 I think when you read the details on and on and how, how segregated the country was, but in terms

01:02:52.360 of media, there was the white media and there was a black media.

01:02:55.460 The black media was essentially weekly black newspapers like the Pittsburgh Courier, which

01:02:59.460 was the biggest in the country, 400,000 subscribers, maybe. Um, and a Chicago defender, the white 1.00

01:03:05.800 media almost never wrote about black people or their problems or their, uh, or anything. Yeah.

01:03:12.460 Maybe a few crimes or maybe a vice raid that the local mayor of Pittsburgh would, would

01:03:18.260 mount into the black neighborhood of Pittsburgh, you know, during election time, but that's it.

01:03:23.420 So, so even the best white people in the North had no idea what life was really like for black

01:03:30.600 people in the South. Black people knew either because they just left the South and moved North

01:03:35.540 in the Great Migration or, or they, they were told constantly by the Pittsburgh Courier, which,

01:03:41.700 um, I would encourage, I know that you love history and, and, and I'm a history major. I guess I'm

01:03:47.240 finally fulfilling my degree here for this book because I was a journalist for 35 years,

01:03:51.340 mainly off that thesis and stuff like that feature stories, but there's a place called

01:03:56.280 newspapers.com cost you about eight or nine bucks a month. And you can go back and read

01:04:01.520 the newspapers. Like a lot of the papers that I needed, the Pittsburgh post-cachette and the

01:04:06.180 Pittsburgh Courier, the black paper are all online. You can read this stuff. The Pittsburgh Courier

01:04:11.780 was out of its mind. Tremendous. I think it was like, if you put, if you put newspapers on a

01:04:18.220 spectrum from the, from the state boring and kind of creepy New York times to the wacky

01:04:23.160 New York post, somewhere closer to the New York post is where the courier was. They didn't

01:04:28.260 pretend to be objective. They, they railed about the, the, the civil rights abuses in the South

01:04:34.840 and the poverty and the, and the, and the lynchings and the trials and everything. So black people 1.00

01:04:40.440 knew exactly what was going on in a very sensationalized and powerful way. The courier did

01:04:46.580 this for 30 years. And so did the defender and other papers. But, uh, meanwhile, the people at

01:04:51.700 the post-cachette where Spriggle worked, uh, Walter White, the head of the NAACP, I think when I was

01:04:56.320 doing my research, I think his name was mentioned about three or four times the whole year in the

01:05:00.720 Pittsburgh post-cachette. This is a guy who'd been on the cover of time magazine already and had the

01:05:05.660 ear of Truman and was very close with Eleanor Roosevelt. And yet most white people in the North had

01:05:11.440 no idea how, how, uh, oppressive discriminatory and humiliating Jim Crow life was for 10 million

01:05:20.560 blacks in the South. You know, the North was no, you know, picnic either for, for, for black people

01:05:26.600 as, uh, anybody who starts reading about that. No, but there's the, I mean, I, I hate to interrupt

01:05:33.260 you here, but we've only got a couple of minutes left. There are things that you talk about in the,

01:05:38.120 um, in the book, little, little things like, uh, you know, the, the phone operators not willing to

01:05:46.080 address you as Mr. or Mrs. Um, if you were black, because you were, you were beneath that you, you 1.00

01:05:53.540 weren't, you weren't a Mr. Uh, and you know, some of these kinds of things, but you know, the, the,

01:06:00.740 the things that really open, because he opened white people's eyes, uh, to this problem. What 0.52

01:06:08.300 what he did is he came back from the South and he wrote a 21 part series, page one series for the

01:06:13.320 post-gazette. It was syndicated around the country to about 15 other papers. New York, uh, Herald

01:06:18.060 Tribune was one Seattle times was one. And he wrote in a very powerful, persuasive and, and, and

01:06:24.780 passionate way. Sprigle did recounting all these humiliations and inequities in the, in the schools

01:06:32.140 and the funding and everything. I think the state of Mississippi spent more on bussing white kids 0.51

01:06:36.840 than it spent on black education in the state. So separate, but equal was pretty much of a joke. 0.90

01:06:42.120 Clark, um, Sprigle was, was very, very powerful in his writing. He shocked the North. He pissed off

01:06:49.820 the South. He pleased millions of blacks because the courier reprinted his whole series, his 21 part 0.70

01:06:58.120 series and her seven straight weeks ran it. And it was, it had run all over the country. So black 1.00

01:07:03.340 people, that was the only way black people could read what Sprigle wrote. Um, it started the first 1.00

01:07:09.500 national debate, Sprigle series about four months, starting in August of, uh, of 48 through November,

01:07:16.860 right after the Dewey, uh, Truman election. It started the first national debate in the media,

01:07:23.320 in the national media about ending legal segregation. My book ends pretty much where Sprigle's story ends.

01:07:31.420 And that is with a radio debate, a national radio debate, a couple hundred stations live on, uh,

01:07:40.160 on town hall meeting, uh, of the air, which was like, uh, meet the press and, uh, uh, you know,

01:07:47.120 and this is the first time, this is the first time that this question was really asked, what should

01:07:52.920 we do about race segregation? Um, in a public way, in a public way, in a media way. Yeah. And, uh,

01:08:00.300 Sprigle, you know, little, little spark and it burst, uh, you know, it flamed there for about four

01:08:05.680 months and then he, it died down and the South and Jim Crow did not get as much attention until

01:08:13.420 1954 with, uh, Brown versus board. And then I am a chill murder in 55 and Rosa Parks in 55.

01:08:20.660 And that's when the national media, the white media, the New York times, CBS came down South

01:08:26.400 to really fully cover what, what, you know, a very un-American life, uh,

01:08:35.660 American apartheid basically. Right. And the North does not get off easy on this either, but 0.75

01:08:41.460 I, I want to thank you for writing this book and, and teaching me about somebody who I had never heard

01:08:47.500 of before. Um, and it really shows that you may not be able to solve something in your lifetime,

01:08:55.280 but by standing and doing the right thing, you could set off a trigger of, uh, you know,

01:09:02.140 you could trigger a series of events that happen after you are long gone that changed the world.

01:09:08.140 The name of the book is 30 days, a black man, the forgotten story that exposed the Jim Crow South

01:09:13.400 really, really well done, Bill. Thank you so much. Uh, this is available in bookstores everywhere.

01:09:18.260 You bet. Thanks, Bill.

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01:13:33.980 What happened yesterday in the New York times, the op-ed piece

01:13:39.060 is itself a danger to the country. It is a threat to national security.

01:13:50.220 I am so torn on this because I'm glad there's adults in the room. I'm really glad there are

01:13:56.560 adults in the room. I, I, I, I, I want this for every president, but especially this president.

01:14:01.960 I want people standing around him going, wait a minute, Mr. President, could we just stop

01:14:06.860 and think here? I want that. This president needs those kinds of people around him. His instincts,

01:14:15.720 I think are wrong many times. Sometimes they're right. But when, when the president goes wrong,

01:14:24.240 uh, when he's swinging for the fences, it could be a very bad thing. So I'm glad somebody is in there.

01:14:33.500 However, I don't like the idea of a secret cabal. Nobody elected this unnamed anonymous person.

01:14:43.320 And even if they did, if we elected you, you're not the president. He is. And like it or not,

01:14:51.980 elections have consequences. And what's the difference between this? This is a proverbial tarp bailout.

01:14:59.400 So this is the people made their decision. People in power want to make it better in their opinion.

01:15:09.040 I don't know what this person's opinion is. I don't know if this person is good, bad, agrees with me or

01:15:15.080 the Trump voter more or less. I have no idea. We don't know who this person is and they're shaping

01:15:21.780 the, the future. No, thank you. That's a bailout. I'm sorry. Trust the American people. They'll get

01:15:33.080 it wrong, but eventually they'll get it right. That's Thomas Jefferson. All right. It's ugly.

01:15:40.920 It's an ugly system, but this is deep state shadow government. I don't know what it is,

01:15:48.440 but it's not constitutional. And here's why it's a danger. I want to play something that came out

01:15:55.000 last night. This is Teresa May yesterday in front of parliament talking about Russia and their

01:16:04.100 influence and the killing of two of their citizens. Listen, we were right to say in March that the

01:16:11.640 Russian state was responsible. And now we have identified the individuals involved. We can go

01:16:17.380 even further based on this work. Based on this work, I can today tell the house that based on a body of

01:16:23.340 intelligence, the government has concluded that the two individuals named by the police and CPS

01:16:29.820 are officers from the Russian military intelligence service, also known as the GRU. The GRU is a highly

01:16:40.020 disciplined organization with a well-established chain of command. So this was not a rogue operation.

01:16:47.140 It was almost certainly also approved outside the GRU at a senior level of the Russian state.

01:16:54.260 Okay. Now I want you to just think this through with me. The president of the United States has been under

01:17:04.420 attacked by the media, by the left, by the right, by everybody. He is rightfully paranoid. And he also has

01:17:15.040 a touch of, you know, paranoia in him anyway. The Bob Woodward book comes out where they're saying,

01:17:26.400 I've taken things off his desk. Okay. Then the very next day, there's an op-ed from somebody who's

01:17:34.580 very high level and says, look, I, I really like some of the stuff that he's doing, but a group of

01:17:42.000 us have gotten together and we talked about the 25th amendment, but we don't want to cause a

01:17:46.480 constitutional crisis. Okay. So a group of us got together and said, I think the president may be

01:17:52.160 mentally unstable and unfit for job. You had that conversation. Wow. Okay. Huh? Now you have that

01:18:05.060 conversation and now you've put it in the New York times and you say, I like his tax cuts and I like

01:18:11.700 a couple of things, but I want to quote astute observers have noticed though the rest of the

01:18:18.420 administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for

01:18:24.180 meddling and punished accordingly and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than

01:18:31.080 as ridiculed as rivals on Russia. For instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of

01:18:38.220 Putin's spies as punishment for the poisoning of the Russian former spy in Britain. He complained for

01:18:45.560 weeks about senior staff members, letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia.

01:18:51.180 And he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country

01:18:56.320 for its malign behavior, but his national security team knew better. Such actions had to be taken

01:19:04.580 to hold Moscow accountable.

01:19:06.800 put yourself, none of the shoes of the president, put yourself now as John Bolton, as, as anybody who has

01:19:19.720 to walk in and talk to the president about Teresa May and the evidence that they now have. And you have

01:19:28.560 to recommend action for the United States.

01:19:35.600 How are you feeling this morning? How are you feeling you're even going to approach this? Because

01:19:43.060 let's just assume you're not the, the, the spy in the white house. You're not the one thwarting him

01:19:51.420 and you have no idea who is, but you know, as soon as you bring up Russia, the president read that last

01:19:59.560 night and has been obsessing on it ever since. And now you have to come in and brief him and say, look, we

01:20:06.480 need a little tougher sanctions on Russia. What do you think the response is going to be from the president?

01:20:12.040 How do you think he, you think he's just going to openly listen

01:20:16.020 to you or in the back of your mind is in the back of his mind? Is he

01:20:20.040 thinking, I wonder if this is the son of a bitch that set me up? 1.00

01:20:24.100 Understandably. So that's correct. That's what any person in his position would be correct at that moment.

01:20:28.480 He was already against the sanctions.

01:20:32.380 You just said pretty much we went around his

01:20:36.080 back and got it done anyway, because we know better.

01:20:38.780 Now, with more headed our way, now you've got to go in. Somebody has to go in and say, look,

01:20:48.080 we need to get a little tougher because England has proven now that they were right.

01:20:53.940 He's not going to do that.

01:20:57.420 You've put the United States in a national security crisis.

01:21:03.380 How can we trust

01:21:06.860 that he's going to get

01:21:09.020 good advice? Because quite honestly,

01:21:11.080 think about this.

01:21:13.580 We know what Donald Trump is like.

01:21:16.160 We know he's

01:21:17.160 mean and vindictive. 0.57

01:21:19.280 We know he'll cuss anybody out.

01:21:21.720 We know that he will

01:21:22.980 he'll wring them out.

01:21:25.220 He punches back harder.

01:21:26.800 That's what he's always talked about. That's what he's like.

01:21:29.020 We know that.

01:21:29.740 You're a good servant of the United States

01:21:32.980 and the Constitution.

01:21:33.720 You have to go brief the president.

01:21:35.920 Do you at any

01:21:37.120 at any time even think

01:21:39.380 I'm not going to be the one going in there today?

01:21:41.680 No way.

01:21:42.520 I'm not telling him that.

01:21:44.080 Uh-uh.

01:21:45.060 Because he's going to think it's me

01:21:46.780 and it's not me.

01:21:47.760 I am not going in there today.

01:21:49.720 Think about that.

01:21:50.160 That's a national security issue

01:21:51.980 that has been is being manipulated.

01:21:54.660 I mean, the hawkish position on Russia

01:21:57.100 is weakened in the White House today

01:21:58.940 because of this op-ed.

01:22:01.140 And if the person who wrote it

01:22:02.600 actually cared about the hawkish position on Russia,

01:22:07.500 you'd wonder why the hell you'd write it.

01:22:10.140 Right.

01:22:10.420 Because now you're weak in that position.

01:22:11.800 Do you notice one thing that they left out?

01:22:14.080 You know, they said,

01:22:14.620 hey, you know, we're we

01:22:15.600 the group of us,

01:22:16.700 we like a lot of the stuff that he's done.

01:22:19.840 What's the first thing, Stu,

01:22:21.080 that everyone always says

01:22:22.320 if they voted for him and say,

01:22:23.380 look, I don't like this,

01:22:24.400 but hey, look, I really like Gorsuch.

01:22:27.780 Got it.

01:22:28.360 Supreme Court justices.

01:22:29.040 Supreme Court justices and judges.

01:22:30.780 That's the first thing.

01:22:32.280 The one thing not mentioned in this,

01:22:35.420 the judges.

01:22:36.180 Yep.

01:22:36.820 So they didn't mention it either

01:22:38.600 because they disagree with the judges,

01:22:40.300 which wouldn't make them conservative,

01:22:41.680 or they know by saying that

01:22:45.020 it's just going to set a fire

01:22:47.320 and will drag Kavanaugh into this mess.

01:22:55.600 Well, why would you decide

01:22:57.180 not to put that in?

01:23:00.420 Because that's the number one thing

01:23:02.200 on everybody's list

01:23:03.060 that they like about him.

01:23:04.920 Why would you decide not to put that in

01:23:07.120 other than to protect Kavanaugh,

01:23:09.900 but you would put things like Russia in,

01:23:12.660 which is a continual problem.

01:23:16.620 And now we see the same day

01:23:19.180 or the day after this comes out,

01:23:20.940 the same day it comes out

01:23:23.160 over in England,

01:23:24.140 they've got the goods on Russia.

01:23:27.120 This is a nightmare.

01:23:29.720 It really is.

01:23:30.400 And you just,

01:23:31.060 it's almost impossible

01:23:33.080 to think of a reason to do this

01:23:35.740 if the person is actually

01:23:38.640 representing their views accurately.

01:23:40.060 Unless it's, you know,

01:23:41.000 some sort of personal ambition.

01:23:43.160 Yeah.

01:23:43.320 Right.

01:23:43.520 And just so.

01:23:44.180 I can't think of a good reason.

01:23:46.040 I can't think of one good reason

01:23:47.900 to do this.

01:23:48.600 Somebody who wants to be

01:23:49.280 president themselves someday,

01:23:50.920 right?

01:23:51.220 Or, you know,

01:23:52.000 something of that nature.

01:23:53.560 Because there's not a,

01:23:55.280 there's just,

01:23:55.940 there's no argument to be made

01:23:57.080 that this is going to help

01:23:57.880 your position

01:23:59.320 if this is what you believe.

01:24:01.060 Unless you are in that group

01:24:04.480 and you're talking about

01:24:05.340 the 25th Amendment

01:24:06.240 and somebody says,

01:24:07.220 no, he'd have to go crazy.

01:24:09.400 And you're trying to antagonize it.

01:24:11.100 And you're antagonizing him

01:24:12.740 trying to get him to go crazy.

01:24:15.680 So you have a scene,

01:24:18.020 you know,

01:24:18.860 he walked into the cabinet room

01:24:20.280 and he just started throwing things

01:24:22.240 and he was out of control.

01:24:24.260 I mean,

01:24:25.200 that's a possibility,

01:24:26.860 but I cannot understand

01:24:29.220 why you would do this

01:24:30.340 and think that this makes America

01:24:32.340 more secure.

01:24:33.820 It doesn't.

01:24:34.580 Especially if he's unstable

01:24:37.320 like you claim he is.

01:24:39.400 This is the worst thing

01:24:40.780 you could have done.

01:24:43.040 Good luck on Russia today,

01:24:44.780 White House.

01:24:45.660 Good luck.

01:24:46.940 Good luck for all of us.

01:24:49.740 It's craziness.

01:24:51.640 May I,

01:24:52.520 may I share some good news?

01:24:55.260 And this is something that

01:24:57.400 people have been saying,

01:24:59.840 there's no sign of this.

01:25:01.560 There's no sign of this.

01:25:02.480 Glenn,

01:25:02.820 it's just not happening.

01:25:03.580 Yes,

01:25:04.580 there is.

01:25:05.720 Yes,

01:25:06.120 there is.

01:25:07.200 And I want to show you

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01:25:13.960 We'll do that in just a second.

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01:27:02.980 I know.

01:27:03.680 Glenn Beck.

01:27:04.140 I know.

01:27:04.800 Get a hold of him.

01:27:06.260 We,

01:27:06.500 we,

01:27:06.900 there's just,

01:27:07.820 and I don't want to give in too much information out yet.

01:27:10.240 Somebody just tweeted something.

01:27:12.180 Is a journalist,

01:27:13.200 not well known.

01:27:15.120 At least I don't know him.

01:27:16.420 Stu doesn't know him.

01:27:18.560 And I think he has cracked the code on this one.

01:27:21.360 I think he is absolutely right.

01:27:23.320 We're going to try to get him on the show.

01:27:25.480 We're running so late.

01:27:26.500 If not,

01:27:27.340 we'll do an after show.

01:27:28.460 If we can get him on,

01:27:29.600 we'll do something on Facebook live right after the show.

01:27:32.760 But let's,

01:27:33.460 can we get on that?

01:27:34.100 Melissa?

01:27:34.480 Let's let's Marissa. 1.00

01:27:35.940 Let's get him on.

01:27:38.260 Uh,

01:27:39.140 it's,

01:27:39.580 it's,

01:27:39.840 you know,

01:27:40.240 it feels right.

01:27:43.640 It's that,

01:27:44.140 it definitely feels,

01:27:45.700 it does feel right.

01:27:46.640 But again,

01:27:46.980 that's when you should always be suspicious.

01:27:49.320 Yeah.

01:27:50.240 There's a lot of background work that we haven't checked on,

01:27:52.560 but it's,

01:27:52.960 it's an interesting,

01:27:53.980 it's an interesting theory.

01:27:55.140 It's an interesting.

01:27:55.660 Okay.

01:27:55.980 Let me give you some good news.

01:27:57.020 Let me give you some good news here.

01:27:58.420 Um,

01:27:59.940 Alexandria,

01:28:00.740 uh,

01:28:01.240 Casio Cortez.

01:28:03.100 She tweeted her sport,

01:28:04.940 uh,

01:28:05.200 her,

01:28:05.640 uh,

01:28:05.940 a support for Linda Sarsour.

01:28:08.420 This woman is putting it all on the line for healthcare women and LGBT rights. 1.00

01:28:13.640 Linda Sarsour far right,

01:28:15.580 constantly maligns her with false attacks and threats of violence.

01:28:19.180 Yet here she is always fighting for everyone.

01:28:21.620 Our flag represents.

01:28:22.740 Okay.

01:28:24.120 How many times have you heard that?

01:28:26.460 That,

01:28:27.060 that is stereotypical Democrat,

01:28:29.280 right?

01:28:30.240 That's what you feel.

01:28:32.220 Stereotypical Democrat.

01:28:33.460 This is what I wanted to talk to you about last hour.

01:28:36.560 We have an opportunity right now,

01:28:38.960 but we have to separate the people who like a bigger welfare state from the people who are actually socialists,

01:28:49.000 communists,

01:28:49.920 you know,

01:28:50.280 whatever,

01:28:50.600 because they're not the same.

01:28:53.140 And if we don't change our language,

01:28:54.960 if we don't start opening our language up and start opening our arms up to people who are looking for a home,

01:29:02.620 we're going to miss this opportunity.

01:29:05.200 So let me just give you some of the responses to her tweet.

01:29:08.760 The far right.

01:29:10.760 And here I had the nerve to self-identify as a liberal.

01:29:14.140 What with my belief in free speech,

01:29:17.180 separation of church and state,

01:29:19.100 religious pluralism,

01:29:20.260 all things.

01:29:21.380 Linda Sarsour has demonstrably opposed.

01:29:25.440 She's endorsed Islamic law,

01:29:27.580 restricting critique of Islam and plays with anti-Semites.

01:29:31.920 Next one.

01:29:32.880 A critique of Linda Sarsour is not the same thing as maligning her.

01:29:38.280 Ocasio instead of blindly following her.

01:29:41.020 Why don't you ask your bestie to explain why she body shamed and victim blamed. 1.00

01:29:45.600 Ask my 1121 after her sexual assault. 1.00

01:29:49.320 Is that what a real feminist does? 1.00

01:29:51.880 Next one.

01:29:53.060 I criticize Linda Sarsour because I am a liberal,

01:29:56.640 by the way.

01:29:58.040 I'm not okay with sweeping Louis Farrakhan's overt Jew hate under the rug.

01:30:03.920 I also don't believe in trying to make murdering Jewish babies okay by calling it Palestinian resistance.

01:30:12.680 Stephen Hunter writes in,

01:30:14.660 I've got to disagree with you here.

01:30:16.140 Sarsour is open and unapologetic association with anti-Semites like Louis Farrakhan,

01:30:20.760 as well as her advocacy of Sharia law,

01:30:23.200 make her a con and a fraud in the progressive movement.

01:30:26.200 There's no place for bigotry or theocracy in a free and equitable society.

01:30:31.060 How about this one?

01:30:32.400 You should apologize to every FGM victim on the planet.

01:30:36.440 I don't even know what that is.

01:30:37.560 FGM victim shaming includes one from any conversation about women's rights,

01:30:43.140 as does supporting the enslavement of women in Saudi Arabia.

01:30:47.820 Obviously,

01:30:49.200 call yourself whatever the hell you want,

01:30:51.660 but you are no feminist. 1.00

01:30:54.160 This is,

01:30:55.440 this is a,

01:30:58.640 there is a growing chorus of voices

01:31:01.460 inside the Democratic Party

01:31:04.400 who are beginning to see these people for who they are.

01:31:08.620 We have to be very careful

01:31:11.340 to open our arms to people who vote differently

01:31:16.540 and may disagree on the size of the welfare state,

01:31:20.900 but are not with the destruction of the state.

01:31:24.980 They are not with the end of capitalism.

01:31:28.640 They're,

01:31:29.400 they're,

01:31:29.880 they're not anti-American.

01:31:31.720 They're not evil.

01:31:33.880 They may have been misguided or trusted these people,

01:31:36.860 but they are waking up.

01:31:39.300 We need to provide a welcome to them

01:31:43.280 and not a welcome.

01:31:44.940 Hey,

01:31:45.220 you're going to start thinking just like me,

01:31:47.260 but a welcome.

01:31:48.620 Hey,

01:31:49.840 welcome back to reality

01:31:52.220 and shedding your,

01:31:53.900 your,

01:31:54.600 your tribal shirt,

01:31:56.660 shedding your,

01:31:57.580 your team colors,

01:31:58.800 because now we can get something done

01:32:01.940 because both teams suck. 0.69

01:32:06.020 Let's talk about real issues.

01:32:08.060 Not all these made up issues,

01:32:10.460 especially made up issues

01:32:12.240 that are being championed by people like Linda Sarsour.

01:32:16.100 I think this is tremendous news.

01:32:18.620 It is.

01:32:18.980 And it seems to be such a low hurdle to clear,

01:32:21.940 to ask for something like this,

01:32:23.700 for people to distance themselves from those who call for the elimination of all Jews or all whites.

01:32:32.560 These are not high hurdles.

01:32:34.960 They're clear.

01:32:35.960 The problem is just like with Donald Trump,

01:32:39.040 people are accepting of Donald Trump on the right

01:32:41.540 because they see him accomplishing big things,

01:32:46.200 pushing like the media,

01:32:48.220 pushing the media back.

01:32:49.440 And they're so sick of the media

01:32:51.620 and they haven't seen anybody that's been able to do it.

01:32:55.120 So you,

01:32:56.320 you excuse it,

01:32:57.580 which drives the left out of their mind.

01:33:00.540 The left then excuses people like Linda Sarsour

01:33:03.980 because they're going in

01:33:06.000 and they're pushing back on the Trump administration.

01:33:09.580 We got to stop excusing the behavior

01:33:12.340 and,

01:33:13.460 and,

01:33:13.900 and,

01:33:14.220 and notice if you're in bed with a radical,

01:33:16.900 you got to get out of the bedroom.

01:33:19.500 Get out of the house.

01:33:20.640 The call is coming from within the house.

01:33:23.660 Don't be outraged.

01:33:25.540 Start to look for allies of freedom.

01:33:29.340 Glenn Beck.

01:33:30.960 Mercury.

01:33:35.400 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:33:37.440 I don't think I've ever read a more powerful story than,

01:33:39.800 uh,

01:33:40.680 I found in the book Unbroken.

01:33:43.380 Um,

01:33:44.780 however,

01:33:45.400 the,

01:33:45.640 the,

01:33:45.980 the movie really didn't do it justice.

01:33:47.880 Uh,

01:33:48.940 it,

01:33:49.320 uh,

01:33:49.500 kind of left some really important parts out.

01:33:51.720 Like,

01:33:52.000 I don't know,

01:33:52.520 God,

01:33:53.520 uh,

01:33:53.820 the main driving,

01:33:55.040 uh,

01:33:55.600 force,

01:33:56.160 uh,

01:33:57.100 behind this man's,

01:33:58.140 uh,

01:33:58.440 life and his,

01:33:59.480 and what he went through in his survival.

01:34:01.400 Um,

01:34:01.800 his son is with us now,

01:34:03.780 uh,

01:34:04.160 Luke Zamparini.

01:34:05.300 How are you,

01:34:05.720 Luke?

01:34:06.100 I'm well,

01:34:06.540 thank you,

01:34:06.900 Glenn.

01:34:07.080 How are you?

01:34:07.500 Very good.

01:34:07.960 Very good.

01:34:08.360 Uh,

01:34:09.020 and Will Graham,

01:34:10.220 the grandson of Billy Graham is also here.

01:34:13.020 Yeah,

01:34:13.140 thank you.

01:34:13.680 Big fan of your grandpa.

01:34:15.080 I appreciate it,

01:34:15.760 buddy.

01:34:15.840 He was a great guy.

01:34:17.320 Um,

01:34:17.840 so first of all,

01:34:18.940 for anybody who doesn't know Unbroken,

01:34:20.580 just quickly tell the story of your dad.

01:34:22.600 Oh,

01:34:22.920 he got two hours.

01:34:24.260 I know,

01:34:25.000 I know.

01:34:25.260 Uh,

01:34:25.620 okay.

01:34:25.900 So Louie Zamparini was the,

01:34:27.660 the son of Italian immigrants,

01:34:29.720 a juvenile delinquent that turned his life around to a point,

01:34:33.700 uh,

01:34:34.580 through athletics.

01:34:35.420 He made it to the 1936 Berlin Olympics,

01:34:38.160 uh,

01:34:38.700 the Olympics of Adolf Hitler and Jesse Owens.

01:34:41.540 And Jesse Owens was my dad's roommate in the Olympic village.

01:34:44.980 Unbelievable.

01:34:46.160 Charged with,

01:34:46.940 uh,

01:34:47.180 keeping him out of trouble,

01:34:48.680 which,

01:34:49.160 uh,

01:34:49.400 I'm afraid he didn't do too well because,

01:34:51.380 uh,

01:34:52.320 my dad got in trouble when he decided that the souvenir he wanted from the

01:34:56.720 Berlin Olympics was the swastika hanging off of Hitler's office building.

01:35:00.820 Oh my God.

01:35:01.220 So he scaled the side of the building,

01:35:02.880 uh,

01:35:03.380 and ripped the flag down and got caught.

01:35:06.540 And,

01:35:07.120 uh,

01:35:07.240 he might've almost been the first American casualty of the Nazis,

01:35:10.840 but,

01:35:11.400 uh,

01:35:11.920 when they whipped him around,

01:35:12.960 they saw the,

01:35:13.640 the,

01:35:14.140 um,

01:35:14.980 the Olympic emblems on his blazer.

01:35:17.500 Uh,

01:35:17.780 they,

01:35:18.200 uh,

01:35:19.020 said,

01:35:19.240 well,

01:35:19.460 who are you?

01:35:20.660 And so my name is Louie Zamperini.

01:35:22.820 I guess they were checking to see that he wasn't one of the two Jewish

01:35:25.900 athletes that were on the American team.

01:35:27.760 Right.

01:35:28.380 Um,

01:35:28.780 so of course they,

01:35:30.000 they went inside the building and came back with the flag all folded up and

01:35:33.540 said,

01:35:33.700 you can keep the flag.

01:35:34.940 Unbelievable.

01:35:35.500 Boom go.

01:35:36.040 Yeah.

01:35:36.580 You still have it.

01:35:37.340 We do.

01:35:37.820 It's on display in Torrance,

01:35:40.040 California.

01:35:40.500 We have a little museum on my dad's life.

01:35:43.300 Wow.

01:35:43.740 With all this memorabilia.

01:35:45.800 Uh,

01:35:46.080 he went on to,

01:35:47.240 um,

01:35:48.140 uh,

01:35:48.360 to run for the university of Southern California,

01:35:50.220 where he held the collegiate record for the mile for about 14 years.

01:35:54.740 Uh,

01:35:55.220 he was almost a man to break the four minute mile,

01:35:58.060 but,

01:35:58.400 uh,

01:35:59.060 world war two happened instead.

01:36:00.560 So he ended up as a bombardier in the Pacific.

01:36:04.560 And,

01:36:05.240 uh,

01:36:05.880 after some,

01:36:06.980 uh,

01:36:07.520 harrowing,

01:36:08.200 uh,

01:36:08.780 uh,

01:36:09.880 adventures,

01:36:10.400 uh,

01:36:10.940 you know,

01:36:11.240 on bombing raids,

01:36:12.660 uh,

01:36:12.940 his plane crashed in the ocean and he,

01:36:15.080 uh,

01:36:16.120 he survived,

01:36:17.000 uh,

01:36:17.540 he and two other guys survived on rubber life rafts,

01:36:20.360 uh,

01:36:20.600 for 47 days floating across the Pacific ocean,

01:36:24.100 all the way into the Japanese controlled Marshall islands,

01:36:27.900 where he was,

01:36:28.540 uh,

01:36:28.800 picked up by the Japanese who, 1.00

01:36:31.120 by the way,

01:36:32.240 uh,

01:36:32.580 followed American sports and they knew who they had found and they wanted to use

01:36:35.940 him for propaganda purposes,

01:36:37.420 which is why he was treated so inhumanely,

01:36:41.000 uh,

01:36:41.380 trying to soften him up.

01:36:42.660 He refused to do the propaganda,

01:36:44.540 uh,

01:36:45.340 uh,

01:36:45.640 broadcast,

01:36:46.720 uh,

01:36:47.460 and,

01:36:47.940 uh,

01:36:48.080 instead,

01:36:48.720 uh,

01:36:48.960 he was able to survive,

01:36:50.600 uh,

01:36:51.260 the,

01:36:51.660 the torment that a,

01:36:54.100 particular heinous guard named the bird was,

01:36:57.000 uh,

01:36:57.500 was tasked with making his life miserable.

01:36:59.960 He got through that.

01:37:01.400 Um,

01:37:01.900 the,

01:37:03.020 thanks to the,

01:37:05.040 uh,

01:37:05.500 the two atomic bombs that were dropped on,

01:37:07.940 uh,

01:37:08.260 Japan,

01:37:08.540 the war ended and my father was able to come home alive from that ordeal.

01:37:13.080 That may not have happened,

01:37:14.660 uh,

01:37:15.020 without the atomic bombs because the Japanese had what was called a kill all order. 0.91

01:37:20.560 So all the American servicemen and allies were going to be put to death.

01:37:24.500 Once the American, 0.73

01:37:25.340 uh,

01:37:26.400 military landed on Japanese home islands.

01:37:28.900 So the bomb changed all that.

01:37:31.380 Otherwise I,

01:37:32.020 I wouldn't be here.

01:37:32.860 Yeah.

01:37:33.480 And,

01:37:33.940 uh,

01:37:34.200 so he came home real quick.

01:37:36.360 Um,

01:37:37.200 let me just,

01:37:38.500 um,

01:37:39.220 ask this.

01:37:40.660 You had to be devastated when the film came out and it just erased all of the,

01:37:45.660 it erased all of the spiritual nature of,

01:37:49.100 well,

01:37:49.980 yeah,

01:37:50.240 the,

01:37:50.480 the first film ended at him coming home from the war and there just wasn't enough

01:37:54.460 time for them to be able to tell the whole story.

01:37:56.860 And,

01:37:57.380 uh,

01:37:57.540 I believe things happen for a reason.

01:37:59.200 Yeah.

01:37:59.860 And,

01:38:00.340 uh,

01:38:00.620 uh,

01:38:00.960 Angelina Jolie's film ended where it did so that we could tell the story from a

01:38:05.140 Christian perspective now.

01:38:06.480 Right.

01:38:07.120 Uh,

01:38:07.600 with a Christian director and producers and,

01:38:10.580 uh,

01:38:11.380 and then we'll Graham playing his grandfather,

01:38:14.060 which had to be weird.

01:38:15.240 No,

01:38:15.560 I mean,

01:38:16.060 you're going back in time and playing your grandfather.

01:38:19.060 What kind of relationship did they have?

01:38:20.820 Cause he was,

01:38:21.480 he,

01:38:21.640 he went to a tent revival of your grandfather's,

01:38:24.420 right?

01:38:24.680 That's right.

01:38:25.360 Yes.

01:38:25.840 Yes,

01:38:26.080 it was 1949.

01:38:27.880 The,

01:38:28.320 the,

01:38:28.700 the,

01:38:29.060 the revival meeting that put Billy Graham on the map.

01:38:32.680 Uh,

01:38:33.200 my father,

01:38:33.960 uh,

01:38:34.280 my mom talked him into going,

01:38:35.960 got him into the tent meeting.

01:38:37.720 Uh,

01:38:38.280 uh,

01:38:38.760 the words that,

01:38:39.840 that Billy had to speak changed my father's life.

01:38:42.780 He came to faith in Jesus Christ,

01:38:44.320 turned his life around,

01:38:45.360 went back and forgave all of his prison guards.

01:38:48.200 And,

01:38:48.720 uh,

01:38:48.920 you know,

01:38:49.220 I,

01:38:49.520 I had found,

01:38:50.240 I was going to tell you why I found a life magazine from November,

01:38:54.120 1949.

01:38:54.800 It had,

01:38:55.320 it had,

01:38:56.060 it's a revival and had pictures of your dad and pictures of my mom and dad with

01:39:00.540 him on stage.

01:39:01.260 How about that in,

01:39:02.220 uh,

01:39:02.500 in the revival meeting.

01:39:03.900 So within,

01:39:04.860 within weeks of him coming to faith,

01:39:06.920 he was being brought back,

01:39:08.260 uh,

01:39:08.940 to give his testimony.

01:39:10.740 So as you are,

01:39:11.980 as you're playing your grandfather,

01:39:13.940 um,

01:39:14.480 what is the,

01:39:16.260 um,

01:39:16.940 you're doing the research.

01:39:18.340 What is,

01:39:18.800 what did you find out about your grandfather and their relationship that,

01:39:22.080 that was surprising to you or was,

01:39:25.400 was fascinating to you?

01:39:26.880 I'm not sure when I did my research on my granddaddy,

01:39:30.040 when I was trying to research the,

01:39:31.680 the sermons he was preaching and what it sounded like,

01:39:34.500 uh,

01:39:35.340 you know,

01:39:36.000 I was,

01:39:36.440 I didn't learn much about the relationship.

01:39:38.400 I'd already know much about the relationship already.

01:39:40.840 Uh,

01:39:41.240 not just through my granddaddy,

01:39:42.380 but from a lot of my granddaddy's associates,

01:39:44.220 their friends too,

01:39:44.960 that were there.

01:39:45.880 They were telling me about the stories about Louisiana and,

01:39:48.700 um,

01:39:49.440 and I never had a chance to play him.

01:39:51.000 But what I learned from my granddad when I was learning his sermons was that he,

01:39:54.700 uh,

01:39:55.060 he understood that time was short,

01:39:57.880 uh,

01:39:59.640 and August,

01:40:00.660 this,

01:40:00.920 the,

01:40:01.040 the crusade took place September,

01:40:02.600 October,

01:40:03.100 November,

01:40:03.580 scheduled three weeks,

01:40:04.500 went eight weeks and August,

01:40:07.000 right before that crusade started,

01:40:08.980 the Russians had just detonated the first atomic bomb.

01:40:12.000 So every American was thinking about the nuclear age.

01:40:15.600 Now the Soviet union had the nuclear bomb, 0.77

01:40:18.840 you know,

01:40:19.060 this cold war had started officially.

01:40:21.040 And so everybody was thinking about that.

01:40:22.800 And my granddaddy,

01:40:23.440 half his sermons were preaching on communism against communism.

01:40:27.260 It's amazing.

01:40:28.140 It's amazing how the church stood against all these religious leaders of that era.

01:40:33.640 They all stood against the godlessness of it.

01:40:37.460 Uh,

01:40:37.820 and that's all lost now.

01:40:39.920 People just don't,

01:40:40.800 they don't even,

01:40:42.180 you know,

01:40:42.520 the younger generation doesn't get it at all at all.

01:40:45.640 Well,

01:40:46.200 it's,

01:40:46.720 uh,

01:40:46.980 I guess there's a lot of competing for their attention.

01:40:49.020 They just haven't taken the time to do it.

01:40:50.480 But,

01:40:50.700 uh,

01:40:51.120 my granddaddy,

01:40:51.700 he studied it and that's why he would preach with a newspaper in one hand and the Bible in

01:40:55.960 the other talking about how the two would go together.

01:40:58.540 You don't find that in churches.

01:41:00.000 A lot of times now you don't see them tying real life together.

01:41:06.120 That's right.

01:41:06.700 With,

01:41:07.160 uh,

01:41:07.560 and,

01:41:07.860 and I think that's a,

01:41:08.880 that's a real disadvantage,

01:41:10.120 uh,

01:41:11.660 uh,

01:41:11.980 for a lot of people.

01:41:12.740 They're not,

01:41:13.180 we're,

01:41:13.320 we're missing how,

01:41:14.240 how does this fit into my life?

01:41:16.100 Cause that's what it is.

01:41:17.820 I would just like to add that,

01:41:19.320 you know,

01:41:19.560 we give a lot of credit to Reagan and Thatcher and the Pope,

01:41:23.520 uh,

01:41:24.240 for bringing,

01:41:24.900 uh,

01:41:25.120 for the demise of the Soviet union,

01:41:26.700 but it was really his grandfather getting in behind the iron curtain and preaching the

01:41:31.400 gospel,

01:41:31.800 uh,

01:41:32.700 that it,

01:41:33.440 it angered people back home that he,

01:41:36.160 he,

01:41:36.420 he went back there,

01:41:37.300 but it was him getting there and preaching the gospel and it,

01:41:40.320 that opened the door for the changes in the Soviet union that brought down the,

01:41:44.100 the,

01:41:44.480 that evil empire.

01:41:45.160 I mean,

01:41:45.340 imagine,

01:41:45.920 imagine the power of your grandfather.

01:41:47.620 If he was at his,

01:41:48.760 you know,

01:41:49.540 at his apex again,

01:41:51.500 if he was able to get into North Korea or even,

01:41:55.760 even China and have some of those gigantic,

01:41:59.360 uh,

01:42:00.300 rallies that he used to have,

01:42:01.580 I can't,

01:42:02.520 I can't imagine the impact that it would have on the future.

01:42:05.900 Well,

01:42:06.100 every generation has to fight their battles.

01:42:08.940 And my granddaddy had his,

01:42:10.120 uh,

01:42:10.440 time and generation.

01:42:11.760 Now God's raising up a newer generation and, 1.00

01:42:14.640 uh,

01:42:15.220 uh,

01:42:15.560 we're going to see a lot of changes.

01:42:16.800 I think take place in China and in North Korea,

01:42:19.120 uh,

01:42:19.780 for the better.

01:42:20.500 Yeah.

01:42:20.780 And,

01:42:21.040 uh,

01:42:21.340 talking about the gospel that is,

01:42:22.880 and a lot of great things are happening even without us knowing,

01:42:25.760 a lot of great things are happening.

01:42:27.240 Yeah.

01:42:27.740 So when does the movie open up September 14th,

01:42:31.120 just a little over a week away.

01:42:33.200 I'm going to go see it tonight.

01:42:34.440 I have,

01:42:35.060 I've been,

01:42:35.880 I've been sent the copy of it for to advance.

01:42:38.980 So I wanted to watch it before this interview and I just didn't have a

01:42:41.540 chance to do that,

01:42:42.240 but I'm seeing it tonight and,

01:42:43.880 uh,

01:42:44.040 quite anxious because I think,

01:42:45.860 well,

01:42:46.900 you both come from great stock.

01:42:49.440 I am a huge fan of your grandfather.

01:42:52.580 He's one of the,

01:42:53.880 uh,

01:42:54.500 one of the life changing moments of my life was spending time with him.

01:42:58.960 Uh,

01:42:59.460 and the same for your,

01:43:01.680 your father just reading the book.

01:43:03.560 I wish I would have known him.

01:43:05.240 Remarkable man,

01:43:06.140 just remarkable man.

01:43:07.580 He was a great guy.

01:43:08.580 Yeah.

01:43:08.880 The movie is,

01:43:09.920 uh,

01:43:10.260 unbroken.

01:43:10.800 You can go to unbroken film.com to find out more about it.

01:43:15.280 Unbroken,

01:43:15.820 the path to redemption,

01:43:17.520 unbroken film.com.

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01:45:05.880 All right.

01:45:13.400 Uh,

01:45:13.800 today is the last day that you can buy tickets to our,

01:45:16.440 uh,

01:45:16.840 our tour.

01:45:17.940 Uh,

01:45:18.300 I'm going out for the first time.

01:45:19.700 That's not actually accurate.

01:45:21.080 It's a,

01:45:21.540 it's a last day of the pre-sale.

01:45:22.960 Well,

01:45:23.140 yeah,

01:45:23.240 those actually go on sale tomorrow.

01:45:24.760 So it would actually be the,

01:45:25.720 for most people,

01:45:26.400 the first day they could buy them would be tomorrow.

01:45:28.620 You are America's worst promoter of your own projects.

01:45:31.640 Do you realize this?

01:45:32.460 Yes,

01:45:32.780 I do.

01:45:33.100 You're terrible at it.

01:45:34.440 I know.

01:45:34.540 I don't like it.

01:45:36.060 I don't like it.

01:45:36.940 Why are you in this business if you don't like it?

01:45:39.200 I got,

01:45:39.560 cause I don't like self-promotion and I know that sounds crazy,

01:45:42.200 but I don't like it.

01:45:43.320 I don't like it.

01:45:44.560 I just don't.

01:45:45.120 You can't even say the details of the on sale,

01:45:47.360 right?

01:45:47.660 Well,

01:45:47.840 that's just because I'm a crappy broadcaster.

01:45:49.780 Oh,

01:45:50.200 that's different than being uncomfortable.

01:45:51.920 You're just bad at the job.

01:45:52.880 Yeah,

01:45:53.080 no,

01:45:53.220 I'm just bad at the job.

01:45:54.180 Yeah.

01:45:54.480 Yes.

01:45:54.720 It's glennbeck.com slash tour.

01:45:57.340 Today is the last day of the pre-sale.

01:46:00.340 Good job.

01:46:00.780 What do you have to do on the pre-sale?

01:46:01.760 You have to use the promo code,

01:46:03.300 the blaze.

01:46:04.200 Good job.

01:46:05.100 Where are we going in this tour?

01:46:06.840 We are going to San Antonio,

01:46:09.400 Houston,

01:46:10.040 Dallas,

01:46:10.700 Richmond,

01:46:11.800 Hershey,

01:46:12.140 Pennsylvania,

01:46:13.020 Pittsburgh,

01:46:13.680 Cleveland,

01:46:14.300 Kansas city,

01:46:15.240 Evansville,

01:46:16.700 Tulsa,

01:46:18.200 Tampa,

01:46:19.020 Orlando,

01:46:19.540 and a couple of other cities.

01:46:22.540 Boy,

01:46:22.840 I'm getting politicked hard for a couple of cities.

01:46:26.440 Phoenix.

01:46:27.180 Mike Broomhead is like,

01:46:28.420 you're coming to Phoenix.

01:46:29.760 Oh,

01:46:29.980 really?

01:46:30.300 Yeah.

01:46:30.540 And so I'm trying to convince the,

01:46:33.280 the tour bus to find a way to go to Phoenix,

01:46:36.240 but there's a couple of others that are going to be added.

01:46:38.380 Just start a go fund me directly to Glenn Beck's bank account.

01:46:41.720 If you can get over a hundred million dollars,

01:46:43.440 it'll be in Phoenix for you.

01:46:45.100 That's the kind of guys.

01:46:46.340 You can get me there for about 10 bucks.

01:46:48.760 This is awesome.

01:46:49.760 I love Phoenix.

01:46:51.460 Yeah,

01:46:51.880 no,

01:46:52.000 it's going to be fun.

01:46:52.680 It's the first time we've been out on the road like this in a really

01:46:55.140 long time.

01:46:55.720 I think since maybe comments,

01:47:00.380 no,

01:47:00.580 not common sense.

01:47:01.980 What was the book after comments?

01:47:03.480 It might be common sense.

01:47:05.780 I mean,

01:47:06.220 I don't think we've done a stage show in eight years,

01:47:09.700 nine years.

01:47:10.340 Yeah,

01:47:10.460 it's been a while.

01:47:11.100 It's been a long time.

01:47:12.120 And they're so very nervous.

01:47:13.700 I don't know.

01:47:14.140 They're fun.

01:47:14.620 I mean,

01:47:14.820 they're fun for me.

01:47:15.740 Cause I don't,

01:47:16.200 you know,

01:47:16.340 I maybe get to intro you and do a little bit at the beginning.

01:47:18.800 And then I get to just watch you go out there and sweat.

01:47:22.960 Yeah.

01:47:23.200 It's great.

01:47:23.660 Yeah.

01:47:24.160 You don't,

01:47:24.640 there is a splash zone here.

01:47:26.520 You don't,

01:47:27.320 I mean,

01:47:28.580 I know the most expensive seats are the front rows,

01:47:31.180 but you might want to bring a tarp.

01:47:33.900 Cause there is a splash.

01:47:34.980 I sweat a lot.

01:47:36.800 A lot.

01:47:38.120 It's been a while though.

01:47:38.980 That's going to be really fun.

01:47:40.140 A lot of the,

01:47:40.500 a lot of the seats that you buy come with a new book due to outrage.

01:47:44.280 There's different levels,

01:47:45.400 you know,

01:47:45.640 obviously there was really expensive,

01:47:47.300 you know,

01:47:48.300 like crazy expensive,

01:47:49.520 like crazy,

01:47:51.440 you know,

01:47:52.240 where I like the fact that the recovering alcoholic on the addicted to outrage tour does

01:47:58.620 have a ticket that does include like a,

01:48:01.960 I don't know,

01:48:02.680 like an open bar or free drinks or something.

01:48:04.900 Nice.

01:48:05.100 Yeah.

01:48:05.360 So it's like,

01:48:06.220 Hey,

01:48:06.360 we're going to talk about addiction and recovery and how this will help our country.

01:48:12.640 Well,

01:48:13.100 one way,

01:48:13.580 if I'm not mistaken,

01:48:14.360 one way you have cured your addiction to outrage in the past is by alcohol because alcohol made you,

01:48:20.640 you were a loving drunk.

01:48:22.240 As you've described it,

01:48:23.120 you're very lovey dovey.

01:48:24.460 Yeah.

01:48:24.640 Now that did not make people like Pat comfortable.

01:48:27.000 No.

01:48:27.280 At the time.

01:48:27.960 No.

01:48:28.260 Pat was like,

01:48:29.320 shut up, 0.92

01:48:30.200 shut up. 0.95

01:48:31.440 Cause you were hugging a lot.

01:48:32.540 I'd be like,

01:48:33.200 you know,

01:48:33.520 Pat,

01:48:33.920 you are the greatest.

01:48:36.780 There's nobody better than you.

01:48:39.420 You're just such a good guy.

01:48:41.300 He'd be like,

01:48:41.720 shut up. 0.95

01:48:44.760 So that's coming out.

01:48:45.740 And the book is coming out on September 18th.

01:48:47.620 So you can pre-order that at amazon.com.

01:48:49.740 Okay.

01:48:50.000 We didn't cover a lot of things today.

01:48:56.220 We didn't,

01:48:56.940 we didn't get to too much op-ed talk today.

01:48:59.240 Yeah.

01:48:59.560 What do you think?

01:49:00.180 Yeah.

01:49:00.360 I don't know.

01:49:00.980 Maybe.

01:49:01.500 I don't know.

01:49:02.080 It was such a huge story.

01:49:03.320 Uh,

01:49:04.160 Marissa,

01:49:04.460 what did,

01:49:04.760 what did we find out?

01:49:05.440 We get that guy on.

01:49:07.120 He's going on.

01:49:07.960 Oh,

01:49:08.100 he's coming on.

01:49:09.060 Oh,

01:49:09.340 this is great.

01:49:10.360 Okay.

01:49:11.020 I don't know who this guy is.

01:49:12.540 I can't vouch for him.

01:49:14.060 I just saw him on Twitter.

01:49:15.620 He's a journalist of some sort.

01:49:17.960 Uh,

01:49:18.320 he said,

01:49:19.020 I started matching the language and keywords.

01:49:22.600 And I think I know who wrote the op-ed and who's actually behind it.

01:49:28.880 And I think he's right.

01:49:32.240 And now there's,

01:49:33.000 there's,

01:49:33.340 you'll never be able to prove it.

01:49:34.880 I'm sure,

01:49:35.840 but it sure makes sense to me.

01:49:38.000 First of all,

01:49:38.300 this,

01:49:38.560 this identity absolutely is going to be out.

01:49:40.800 We're going to know who this is.

01:49:41.900 It's not going to take a lot that long.

01:49:43.180 I don't know that it's going to be tomorrow,

01:49:44.760 but this is,

01:49:45.280 this is,

01:49:45.720 I think I would put,

01:49:46.980 I put money on this one.

01:49:48.220 And you have no idea.

01:49:49.540 Cause we haven't checked any of his back.

01:49:50.740 Yeah.

01:49:50.940 No idea.

01:49:51.520 None of his,

01:49:52.000 it just,

01:49:52.300 it just seems right.

01:49:55.660 It just seems right.

01:49:57.080 It all makes sense.

01:49:59.400 And those are always the things that are true.

01:50:00.980 The things that,

01:50:01.680 uh,

01:50:01.980 make you feel like you were smart before.

01:50:04.140 Those are all,

01:50:04.860 when everything's confirming something that you think might be true.

01:50:07.600 And if it's true,

01:50:08.720 it's just going to,

01:50:09.580 the New York times is going to look so bad to anybody on the right.

01:50:13.520 I mean,

01:50:13.960 it's just,

01:50:14.340 it's not going to be good.

01:50:15.720 Anyway,

01:50:16.120 we're going to do that Facebook live in about half an hour.

01:50:18.560 Don't want to miss it.

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 06, 2018

'Paranoia Will Destroy Ya'？ - 9⧸6⧸18

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