On today's episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn talks about the Supreme Court's recent ruling on gun control, and why he thinks we should all have access to guns. Plus, a look at Sarah Palin's response to a question about gun control.
00:44:11.740He said that I just don't understand local politics and what's going on in his office, Utah County Attorney.
00:44:23.180I think it's very important that we have real constitutional Republicans and not any more Republicans like we're finding in our county and district attorney offices in some of the big cities.
00:44:40.440But David will be here to explain that in 60 seconds.
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00:46:22.280Adversarial with law enforcement officers.
00:46:25.040Less prosecutions were the themes amongst these people.
00:46:28.680After they were elected, what followed were spikes in crime, frightened citizens, and ultimately recalls.
00:46:37.360The Republican, and I pointed him out as a lesson to the United States, you can be in the reddest of red areas, and someone will call as a known Republican, and you better watch carefully.
00:46:51.760David Levitt's rhetoric and his policies sound very familiar, at least to me.
00:47:00.520The people that work for him, his peers, the law enforcement in his county think so as well.
00:47:06.220I'd like him to differentiate his policies from the people like Chesa Boudin and George Gascon, but maybe that's not fair because he says, I'm wrong and I don't understand.
00:47:19.220So I've invited him on the program to tell me where I'm wrong.
00:47:21.940Utah County Attorney David Levitt joins me on the program now.
00:47:32.120So I read that you have filed 45% fewer cases in the district attorney, felony cases, while filing 79% more in the local justice that would be misdemeanor cases.
00:47:45.680The attorneys that are working in your area, attorneys have told me those in jail awaiting trials that they are representing, say their clients are keeping track of the number of felonies that are being dropped to misdemeanors and telling their attorneys, I'm not, wait, don't do anything yet.
00:48:06.880Um, you've had, I believe, 25 separate attorneys leave your office, which is a record, uh, by far six went as far to publish a letter of no confidence in which they wrote.
00:48:20.480Levitt has vacated his responsibilities to provide you safety and protection in your person and property by failing to enforce clip criminal laws against offenders.
00:48:30.560And by prioritizing the, uh, protection or the protection of criminals from lawful consequences of their misconduct.
00:48:41.500I believe you, but you now have former high ranking officials in Utah justice.
00:48:46.120You have members 25 or 26 of your own staff, law enforcement, both the sheriff and the police, all voicing opposition to you.
00:48:56.420Um, is this really just about politics?
00:49:00.560Well, first off, Glenn, I, I'm grateful for the fact that you tee this stuff up and, and I'm going to trust that you're going to give me some, uh, some uninterrupted time to stand by David.
00:51:04.220It does seem to be a six, three decision, um, uh, which is, you know, there was a question of whether Roberts would, uh, would, would come on board for this.
00:51:15.780Um, it looks like he has, so does seem to be a six, three decision.
00:54:32.840And, uh, we just try to do what he wants us to do.
00:54:38.240So pray for all of those who are terrified about what this means, all those who are, um, I think misguided, uh, and pray for peace, uh, to wash over us.
00:54:56.440I doubt, well, I'm not going to, I have no idea what the Lord wants, whatever the Lord wants, we'll, uh, we'll, we'll deal with it.
00:55:19.080I really, I hope, I hope we can prioritize his local race over, over the jobs decision.
00:55:23.420Glenn, I don't understand why you didn't do that.
00:55:25.340That was really rude of you to cut him off in the middle of that.
00:55:28.500I mean, what, what could you possibly be talking about?
00:55:30.780Only, uh, you know, a hundred, you know, tens of millions of children, uh, potentially are on the road to living instead of not being alive.
00:55:38.320And, but I, I want to make sure he gets his words in here because I know that was a high priority to him.
00:55:42.580So we'll get back to him as soon as possible.
01:20:14.360I wasn't, and as I'm talking about it, I'm, I don't know if you could have, if you noticed,
01:20:24.200but I mean, I got choked up and teared up, and so did Stu, and so did our producers.
01:20:33.480We just have to take a minute and just think of the miracle we just witnessed.
01:20:45.880There isn't a soul, not one soul in this audience that thought that this would happen like this, this fast.
01:20:56.820And the last thing we should do, and this is going to be hard.
01:21:11.160The last thing we should do, because there's going to be a lot of people who are so misinformed on what the Constitution says, what this really means.
01:21:22.280Nobody is going to lose their opportunity, as crazy as this sounds, to kill their baby.
01:21:29.200It is going to become worse in some states.
01:21:35.940The next fight is going to come from the United States government, using your tax dollars to provide abortions, possibly on military bases, in states where abortions will become illegal.
01:21:55.100I have no problem, if that's what you want to do as a company, if you want to fly people to, you know, another state, and you want to pay for their abortion, I got, I have, I don't understand it.
01:22:14.280I think you are at the altar of Baal, but you can do that.
01:22:20.320Not with, not with my tax dollars, not with my tax dollars.
01:22:26.380Let's not taint our honorable military with that.
01:22:31.880And if they start doing that, I would urge military members, I would much rather spend my time in the brig than guard a facility that is now killing children.
01:23:49.200Some reactions, James Paul said, not sure what's pro-life about a court that makes it easier for the rapist to carry a gun the day before denying their victims' rights to an abortion.
01:24:06.680I can't even understand your logic there.
01:24:09.800I mean, if you're a rapist, you shouldn't have a gun.
01:24:14.460If you were a law-abiding citizen when you got the gun, and then you're like, you know what, I'm going to go rape some people.
01:24:20.680You know, that's a problem, but we're not in Minority Report yet.
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01:26:44.740He is the host of The Josh Hammer Show.
01:26:46.700He is really quite brilliant, one of the leading minds in the conservative movement, I think.
01:26:54.580Josh Hammer joins us now to tell us, what did you find in this decision?
01:27:04.080Glenn, great to be back with you on such a momentous and really this emotionally powerful day, honestly.
01:27:11.780So, you know, look, as you said, this dropped recently.
01:27:15.020Funny enough, I was in the middle of giving a guest lecture for an organization.
01:27:19.020I'm on the advisory board of when it drops.
01:27:21.100So I barely had any time to kind of skim through here, let alone get to the concurring and dissenting opinions.
01:27:26.800But it looks like this looks very similar to the draft opinion that was leaked by the Politico story a month and a half ago in early May.
01:27:35.720And I think those of us who were praying that the five justices from this leaked draft majority opinion would have the fortitude to stiffen their spines against this unprecedented assault, now know that our prayers were answered, Glenn.
01:28:00.880And really just holding aside the constitutional law stuff for a second here, just speaking as pro-lifers, on a day like today, I think we really just need to pause.
01:28:24.880I mean, this issue could have just gone away.
01:28:26.800We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to the pro-life moral activists, political activists, and of course, yes, the legal activists who fought day in and day out to make sure that this grave injustice stayed front and center of our national political conscience.
01:28:42.900And in many days, today is the culmination of a half century of fighting for truth and justice.
01:28:49.400But in many ways, it's also a new beginning for the pro-life side as well, interestingly.
01:28:53.280How do you mean a new beginning for the fight?
01:28:57.940I think it's going to turn – I think we're going to see abortion turn even darker in those states that allow it.
01:29:09.400Well, look, I mean, for a half century now, Roe v. Wade and its progeny, specifically the Planned Parenthood v. Casey case in 1992, they took away from the states, obviously.
01:29:23.560They arrogated the authority away from the states, the ability to attempt to nationally codify one view of the morality of abortion.
01:29:31.840It happened to be a profoundly immoral view.
01:29:35.340So the fight now shifts to the states and the pro-life activists in all the 50 states, especially, obviously, in red states, purple states.
01:29:44.780I mean, admittedly, some blue states like New York and California probably won't be able to touch them there.
01:29:48.920But we have to make sure that our side is well-positioned in the state capitals for every red, purplish, and probably even light blue state to make sure that we fight for successful, cogent, and morally consistent pro-life legislation.
01:30:04.920The state of Oklahoma, actually, just north of Texas, where I know you are, Glenn, they've been leading on this, actually.
01:30:13.040Governor Kevin Stitt signed into law a fantastic pro-life bill there in Oklahoma a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago or so at this point, that basically just bans abortion straight forward from conception.
01:30:23.920And there are some, you know, obviously, life of the mother exceptions and so forth.
01:30:27.180But we really need to start thinking about trying to craft legislation now at the state level.
01:30:32.720But to your point, yes, I do fear, of course, that blue states will only double down in their radicalism.
01:30:38.380And unfortunately, that's probably only going to lead to an ever greater divide in our country than we currently have today.
01:30:44.620But obviously, we're going to save, at the end of the day here, we're going to save millions and millions of unborn children.
01:30:50.260We are going to save human beings who can grow up to cure cancer, who can win Nobel Prizes.
01:30:56.100I mean, this is just a tremendous win for the human species.
01:31:00.000I don't really know how to say it in that.
01:31:02.720I tell you, I saw the stat that I think it was last year or the year before, 20% of all pregnancies ended in abortion, 20%.
01:31:44.920You're like, holy cow, how did that just happen?
01:31:47.040And I think that evil is going to fully come unmasked.
01:31:54.300I mean, I'm telling you, Josh, I don't know how you feel about this.
01:31:57.080I think this could be the day of America's crystal knock.
01:32:03.640I can see these pro-life centers being burned to the ground today.
01:32:08.360They're calling for a night of rage around the country.
01:32:11.100I mean, I think evil is going to show itself, and that'll scare the American people, hopefully.
01:32:19.780You know, I've been thinking about this a lot this week, actually, because I've been bracing for kind of a new George Floyd summer of love kind of thing happening this summer, coming to a city or a suburb near you, unfortunately, myself.
01:32:35.720It is a moment like this where I do think that where you live matters and who your mayor is, who your governor is matters because law and order and, you know, rioting and anarchy is not really a federal issue.
01:33:57.940In fact, I think, do we have a clip of this, what the White House said yesterday about the guns and then they were turned to the SCOTUS ruling for Roe versus Wade?
01:34:25.300It's just like any other Supreme Court decision, just like the one that they did today on guns.
01:34:29.860So the White House won't say that they're going to accept it, which I don't think they will.
01:34:37.480They're talking now about taking doctors and moving them into places like Oklahoma or Texas where abortions will be outlawed and putting doctors on our military bases to perform abortions.
01:34:51.880I mean, where does this go when you have a government that is in defiance of of one branch of the government?
01:35:07.260So we should start from first principles.
01:35:11.740The idea of judicial supremacy, and this is a peculiar thing to say on a day like today where such a pro-life victory has happened admittedly.
01:35:19.840But if we're going to be intellectually consistent here, the idea of judicial supremacy, the idea that the justices have the sole and exclusive ability to interpret the Constitution for themselves and no other constitutional actor in Article I or Article II, let alone the states, has the ability to independently interpret it, that is erroneous.
01:35:39.420In fact, actually, it was really Abraham Lincoln, actually, who in the Dred Scott case famously opposed judicial supremacy and flouted the Dred Scott ruling, at least as it pertained to everyone other than Dred Scott himself.
01:35:51.220So I have actually argued in a formal legal scholarship and a law review article, actually, that the Lincolnian view of how each branch of government should interpret the Constitution for itself in its own ambit is correct.
01:36:05.160Having said that, having said that, there is a thing called prudence and there is a thing called comedy.
01:36:12.160And in a moment like today, when it really does look like, and I agree with you, that we are now bracing for riots through the streets when the political rhetoric is at DEFCON 1, when people are trying to assassinate Supreme Court justices, I think it would be, at a bare minimum, a profoundly imprudent act for the Biden administration to try to undermine this ruling.
01:36:39.120Now, what they might do is they might try to kind of issue some kind of limp executive orders or issue some regulations that might try to kind of undermine it at the edges here.
01:36:49.420But at the end of the day, the idea that this returns to the states, there's not really a whole lot they can do about that.
01:36:56.500I mean, basically, at this point, if red states throughout the country, Kentucky, West Virginia, Kansas, whatever, if they want to go ahead and ban abortion, what can the Biden administration literally do about that?
01:37:07.320I mean, short of sending in the National Guard to protect Planned Parenthood if the state legislature of Kentucky goes ahead and bans it, there's really not a whole lot they can do.
01:37:16.880And it's very difficult to envision a world in which the Biden administration literally sends in troops to red states to protect Planned Parenthood if that state legislature goes ahead and bans it.
01:37:27.300So, practically speaking, this is like a lot of tough talk and rhetoric.
01:37:31.260This obviously is a campaign year in 2022.
01:37:33.520So, there's really not a whole lot that, practically speaking, they can do to actually prevent red and purple states from enacting pro-life legislation.
01:39:25.980But if you start to have real civil unrest, you'll start to see those numbers go down again.
01:39:32.400As a student of history, you know, bad things happen.
01:39:38.840And and then politicians usually make things worse.
01:39:43.460I was saying to somebody just the other day, was it?
01:39:45.580I said, man, can you imagine if we could just if if all of the politicians in the world just kind of like disappeared and we were just left and we were like, oh, OK, now we can fix things.
01:39:58.480I think we could fix things pretty quickly.
01:40:01.220But one of the things we're not going to fix quickly is the debt and the dollar and what is happening with that.
01:40:09.140I don't know if you saw the the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell came out and said we are on on an unsustainable path right now with our debt.
01:40:20.540Now, these are the people that are doing the loans for us.
01:40:23.840That's like the bank going, guys, I'm going to have to take everything away and foreclose on you pretty soon because you got to change your ways.
01:40:32.680Not that the bank would say that to you or I.
01:40:35.880But we are on an unsustainable path and it's only going to get worse, more and more spending, which will make your dollar worth less and less.
01:40:44.500And that's why I want you to call Goldline today.
01:42:39.940You know, I've done this for 45 years.
01:42:43.600I never talked about abortion, really, up until I started doing talk radio, which was probably very wise because I wasn't doing political radio.
01:42:53.280But when I started, I would talk about it from time to time and we would do we do things on it to try to get people to think.
01:43:01.820But we never took serious stances up until about probably, what, six or seven years ago.
01:43:07.980And we decided exactly the opposite of what we did in New York.
01:43:12.040I don't think there's anything more important than this.
01:43:13.740Saving children, saving children from sex slavery, saving children who are being held by the Taliban, saving children from being killed by a so-called doctor.
01:43:25.060There's nothing more important that we could do.
01:43:39.420We've talked to many of them and they've done amazing work over the years to keep this thing alive.
01:43:43.480I mean, you could see that people might just give up on something like this, but it's hard when it's 63 million children that could be alive and aren't.
01:43:50.440And it's hard to give up on something like that.
01:43:52.260And, you know, we should talk about the road ahead, too, because this is not the end of this.
01:44:00.420I want to talk about what we what we need to do, because we need we're at the very beginning and we're going to need to open our hearts a little bit more.
01:44:08.980But also, you know, I hear people bash religions all the time, different religions, because it's not, you know, their religion or whatever.
01:46:11.200And it's where my broadcast studio is.
01:46:15.160And I just walked out to get some fresh air a few minutes ago.
01:46:20.500And this is a day you will remember where you were.
01:46:26.060Whatever side you're on, you'll remember this day.
01:46:28.160Uh, and I, I walk outside and my son and another guy standing by this enormous tractor and he's hitching it up to a trailer.
01:46:46.400Cause they're moving a bunch of logs from one field to another.
01:46:49.700Cause they're building a corral and, uh, and I don't have my glasses on and, and I'm, I'm looking and I'm like, is that Rafe?
01:46:59.960And I can't, I'm not sure because he's a man.
01:47:06.940This is the first summer where he's up here and he is a man.
01:47:12.200And, uh, it was an interesting thought to have about my son who now in a couple of months, 18 years ago, a very brave young teenager decided not to have an abortion.
01:47:33.920And, uh, decided that he had nothing to do with her mistake or whatever happened.
01:47:48.320And I remember we prayed so hard for a baby and I felt almost from the beginning that we were supposed to adopt.
01:47:59.640And this is really hard for moms, really hard baby, not from her body.
01:48:11.520And I think as guys, we don't understand that cause I don't want anything coming out of my body.
01:48:17.220And if something comes out of my, come comes out of my body, I'm not putting it in swaddling clothes.
01:48:25.180And we both wondered, how is this going to work?
01:48:28.360And there is something about God that he is my son and there is no difference between him and any of my other children, none, zero, not even a shadow.
01:48:45.700And just by chance, if his birth mother happens to be listening or his birth grandparents happen to be listening, thank you.
01:49:05.360Thank you for giving this young man chance to live.
01:49:35.660I remember she called her mom because she, she went to school and she had to tell her mom, but she couldn't look her in the eye and tell her.
01:49:42.840So she called, didn't know what her mom was going to say.
01:51:33.100They, they, if you want to, if you want to bring somebody closer to God in, in baptism, that is a fantastic gift, not from you, but from God.
01:55:16.500I mean, just making contraception over the counter, the pill over the counter would be helpful, wouldn't it?
01:55:31.280But it's a lot better to have them get a pill over the counter like that than have our daughters or anybody else think about the abortion drug that the FDA now will make sure that everybody can get.
02:02:04.260The bottom line is, despite all of our differences and all the things that we don't like about people's opinions on the other side of the aisle,
02:02:13.280our policies would lead to more people having a chance at life.
02:02:18.300And that means we should not abort the next Albert Einstein, but we should also not abort the next crappy waiter at Chili's who got your order wrong.
02:02:27.580And we should also not abort a person who grows up to be a career criminal.