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00:02:13.520 Some weird stuff going on.

00:02:16.280 We're getting some really strange information about the Dayton killer.

00:02:20.300 Yeah.

00:02:20.720 Yeah.

00:02:21.520 Did you read about that?

00:02:22.600 Did you see it in the papers?

00:02:23.800 I have seen it in the papers.

00:02:25.300 Yes.

00:02:26.360 He was actually driven to the site by his best friend with his sister in the car as well.

00:02:37.000 So the third person was his best friend?

00:02:39.240 His best friend.

00:02:40.020 Okay.

00:02:40.100 I didn't know that.

00:02:40.500 He drove him, he and his sister, to the nightclub.

00:02:45.400 And then they were the first ones he shot when he got out of the car.

00:02:51.580 Right.

00:02:52.080 How weird is that?

00:02:53.120 I was trying to piece this together.

00:02:54.320 So was I.

00:02:54.860 I was trying to figure out, well, okay, where did the AR-15 come from?

00:02:58.740 Right.

00:02:59.000 So they got separated at some point.

00:03:01.260 So my, I was trying to piece, you know, as we were kind of listening to the different

00:03:05.620 reports, and there are some conflicting reports about it.

00:03:08.120 So it's still hard to dig out exactly what happened.

00:03:11.060 But it seems like they went down to this nightlife district together.

00:03:14.780 They got out of the car together.

00:03:16.280 He was not carrying a gun at that time.

00:03:19.320 And he didn't have the body armor on?

00:03:21.460 Right.

00:03:21.620 I think it was in the car or in the trunk or something.

00:03:24.500 So they went into the nightlife district, separated, my guess is, intentionally, right?

00:03:29.680 He intentionally separated.

00:03:31.720 And went back and got the gun.

00:03:32.380 Hey, I can't find you.

00:03:33.060 I can't find you.

00:03:33.680 Went back, got the gun, got all dressed.

00:03:35.200 Then started texting, hey, meet me here.

00:03:36.920 I'm going to meet you here.

00:03:38.220 And that's how he wound up killing them.

00:03:41.520 Or he actually, I should say, he only killed her.

00:03:43.920 He's still alive.

00:03:45.180 So they're going to have him.

00:03:45.640 He did shoot him, though.

00:03:46.500 He did shoot him.

00:03:47.100 So they're going to have a real idea as to what this day was like, what it was leading

00:03:52.960 up to this.

00:03:53.640 Yeah.

00:03:53.880 So he killed his sister.

00:03:55.760 He shot his best friend.

00:03:57.720 His best friend was also on his hit list when he was a junior in high school.

00:04:02.500 They've come up with the fact that he had a hit list when he was a junior.

00:04:06.180 He had a hit list of people he wanted to kill.

00:04:09.460 And he had a rape list of girls he wanted to rape.

00:04:15.000 Wow.

00:04:15.400 Both of those things indicative of negative behavior, Pat, is how I would state that.

00:04:21.620 Yes.

00:04:21.960 And if you want to disagree with us, press four.

00:04:23.680 Oh, right.

00:04:24.100 And put your phone to your ear.

00:04:26.720 But it's interesting because you look at this and it's like, you think immediately.

00:04:30.980 I think everybody thinks immediately.

00:04:32.260 Like, okay, this guy had all sorts of red flags, right?

00:04:35.060 Yes.

00:04:36.080 They're almost too bright to be red.

00:04:38.200 I don't know what color they'd turn into.

00:04:40.360 You know, a guy has a hit list, a rape list.

00:04:42.480 But it's still difficult, right?

00:04:46.440 This was in high school many years ago.

00:04:49.560 Seven.

00:04:49.840 Seven years ago.

00:04:50.620 Seven years ago.

00:04:51.080 Mm-hmm.

00:04:51.940 You guys, you know, has major problems.

00:04:54.200 I'm sure at that time, somebody, they did something to address them.

00:04:58.180 Obviously, at some level, they thought maybe he was past them.

00:05:02.020 I know there's been, you know, people say, okay, well, there's all these problems back

00:05:06.300 in high school.

00:05:07.080 And he was, you know, there's people that are saying, look, he was a major problem.

00:05:10.860 And we thought, like, he might do something like this.

00:05:14.240 There's also been the reports of, like, a bar he went to regularly where they were like,

00:05:20.240 he was the greatest guy.

00:05:21.460 Never thought in a million years he'd do anything.

00:05:23.080 He was jovial, positive, like, never harassed women in the bar, never did anything like that.

00:05:28.860 He was just a great guy.

00:05:30.480 When we heard the name, we said, there's absolutely no way that's the person they're talking about.

00:05:34.480 So, it's, it is not easy.

00:05:38.300 And we live in a society, I think, for, this is a positive about our society, is we don't

00:05:45.140 throw people in jail before they commit crimes.

00:05:49.160 Like, we don't say, hey, you know, this guy seems kind of weird.

00:05:53.460 Let's put him in prison.

00:05:54.720 That's not a thing that we do.

00:05:56.840 Right.

00:05:57.340 And that's one of the things that has, it's one of our innovations, right?

00:06:00.840 I mean, back in the day, whenever someone was a little bit off, they threw him in jail.

00:06:05.280 If you disagreed with a king, they threw you in jail.

00:06:07.360 If you had the wrong religion, they threw you in jail.

00:06:09.800 We've kind of cleared a lot of that stuff out.

00:06:12.320 It's to our benefit.

00:06:14.140 So, it's really hard when you have the one in, what, 10,000, 100,000, a million people

00:06:20.360 who is, you know, who is weird and has these bad problems and then winds up acting on them.

00:06:26.780 Yeah.

00:06:27.000 It's, how do you sift these people out?

00:06:29.360 It's near impossible.

00:06:30.840 Such a difficult problem.

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00:07:52.220 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:07:54.440 In the documentary Minority Report, they were able to prevent crimes by, you know, they had those psychics in that milk bath.

00:08:06.680 And they were able to foretell the crime, the murder, and prevent it before it happened.

00:08:13.380 So, maybe we should do something like that.

00:08:15.360 Maybe we could try that.

00:08:16.560 See how that works out.

00:08:17.720 I think we should do that.

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00:08:23.720 If you have whatever four hanging around like a piece of paper.

00:08:26.440 Oh, really?

00:08:26.840 Just write it down on the four?

00:08:28.260 Right up to your ear.

00:08:28.960 On the paper.

00:08:29.560 And then put the four on your ear?

00:08:31.640 You should tape it to your head, obviously, so it doesn't fall off.

00:08:35.180 That would be ridiculous.

00:08:36.500 You take your hand off and the paper would fall to the ground.

00:08:38.760 You tape it.

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00:08:44.680 Well, blow on it and make sure it's dry before you put it on your ear.

00:08:48.580 That would be my recommendation.

00:08:49.820 I was fascinated by the idea that there is something called a porno grind metal band.

00:08:55.680 Did you know this?

00:08:56.560 No.

00:08:57.300 He was apparently the lead singer of a porno grind metal band.

00:09:01.040 Who was?

00:09:01.660 The Dayton guy?

00:09:02.400 The Dayton guy.

00:09:03.600 Now, the porno grind genre, Pat, as you know, is a guy who's...

00:09:08.720 He kind of did the Grateful Dead thing in the porno grind industry, if I remember right.

00:09:12.980 Sure, yeah.

00:09:13.400 For a couple years.

00:09:14.440 He just got in a van.

00:09:17.000 And drove all around the country.

00:09:19.380 Porno grind concerts.

00:09:21.000 Apparently, this is a genre of music.

00:09:25.240 It's heavy metal metal.

00:09:28.500 And I can't say all of the story because all of it is horrible.

00:09:34.060 But including the name of his band, I can't really tell you that.

00:09:40.800 But I can tell you that they released songs about rape.

00:09:44.640 Now, how many songs about rape can you name off the top of your head?

00:09:48.020 I can name one, which would be Nirvana's Rape Me.

00:09:52.440 Oh.

00:09:52.640 Because I just remember it being very controversial at the time.

00:09:55.600 And then I remember Kurt Cobain saying, it's an anti-rape song.

00:09:59.640 It's not a pro-rape song.

00:10:01.300 And it's like, well, we didn't think we were releasing a pro-rape song.

00:10:04.260 I mean, I don't know.

00:10:06.300 I mean, maybe people did.

00:10:08.020 You could rape, murder.

00:10:11.020 And then I know, like murder, you could come up with a bunch of them, right?

00:10:14.400 There's a lot of songs about murder.

00:10:16.220 Yeah.

00:10:16.660 It depends on who you kill.

00:10:17.840 Some of those songs are very positive.

00:10:21.280 I Shot the Sheriff.

00:10:22.440 I Shot the Sheriff.

00:10:23.160 It's a murder song.

00:10:24.040 Right.

00:10:24.320 And that's viewed as kind of a positive.

00:10:26.520 You're on the side of the guy who shot the sheriff in that song.

00:10:28.900 Because he had it coming to him.

00:10:30.040 Yeah.

00:10:30.180 And it was in self-defense.

00:10:31.460 So it was okay.

00:10:32.080 Yeah.

00:10:32.540 The one I was thinking of was Goodbye Earl, which was a song by the Dixie Chicks.

00:10:38.860 Right.

00:10:39.320 Where her husband seems like a dirtbag, so he kills her.

00:10:41.980 Kills him.

00:10:42.400 And that was like, you're cheering for whatever Dixie Chick was in that particular arrangement.

00:10:49.340 So lots of murder songs.

00:10:50.900 Certainly you can come up with just a few.

00:10:52.940 And I don't know, I know you could name dozens, Pat.

00:10:55.860 But I mean, in the world of gangster rap, you could probably come up with a couple that reference murder.

00:11:01.280 Probably.

00:11:01.880 If there's a couple.

00:11:02.960 Not as many, though, when it comes to songs about necrophilia.

00:11:06.860 I feel like it's a limited genre.

00:11:09.560 There's not as many songs out there.

00:11:11.680 There's not like a box set for necrophilia songs.

00:11:16.460 But this band apparently had them.

00:11:18.120 And apparently that's what this genre is.

00:11:20.960 So that doesn't sound like a red flag at all to me.

00:11:25.480 Like, just the fact that you're like, you know what?

00:11:27.920 Our third single off the album is Necrophilia Nancy.

00:11:31.920 If that's you, maybe we just automatically put you in prison.

00:11:35.880 But that's not really our system of government.

00:11:37.960 Or at least a hospital of some sort.

00:11:39.820 It does feel like a hospital stay.

00:11:41.640 Or you just get involuntarily committed, perhaps.

00:11:43.880 Yeah, I'm just reading about the genres related to and similar to gore grind.

00:11:49.860 But minor differences from gore grind include porno grind having simpler, slower, and more rock-like songs.

00:11:59.720 I'm telling you this as if you didn't know already.

00:12:03.420 I apologize for talking down to you.

00:12:06.340 That was a little weird when you said it like that.

00:12:07.940 But I guess you're talking to the audience.

00:12:09.560 Yes.

00:12:09.960 Because a lot of people, and if you don't know what porno grind and the difference between porno grind and the other genre we were just talking about.

00:12:17.080 Porn or gore grind.

00:12:19.180 Gore grind.

00:12:19.540 If you don't know the difference, just dial your phone on your phone.

00:12:23.020 Number four, put it to your ear and we'll tell you about it.

00:12:25.500 Now, as you know, the genre's pornographic theme is present in the lyrics and the album artwork, which would keep them out of most stores.

00:12:34.420 Also, the terrible music would keep them out of most stores.

00:12:37.940 Wow.

00:12:38.160 Also, the fact that stores don't really sell music anymore would keep them out of most stores.

00:12:42.740 Yeah.

00:12:43.540 So there's a lot of things working against it.

00:12:45.920 The album, the artwork, and the fact that music is no longer sold in stores.

00:12:52.580 Those three things are having to keep it out of stores.

00:12:55.600 Oh, yeah.

00:12:55.960 And also the crappy music.

00:12:59.360 Wow.

00:13:00.720 Interesting, though.

00:13:02.080 I'm looking at the story of him, and he has a ski mask on as he sings.

00:13:08.960 And wears a very attractive dress, which is adorable.

00:13:14.740 Or a sort of apron-like dress, kind of, and then maybe some shorts underneath.

00:13:19.600 I mean, it's an interesting way to go for him.

00:13:24.580 And you're right.

00:13:25.880 It should have been a warning sign.

00:13:27.920 There were a lot of warning signs with this guy.

00:13:30.080 You know, one I was completely stunned by, Pat?

00:13:33.080 And so stunned, I dialed the number four and asked questions about it.

00:13:36.040 And here's what they told me.

00:13:37.540 This guy was a hardcore leftist.

00:13:40.340 I was shocked because, as you know, all violence...

00:13:43.540 Only right-wing people kill people.

00:13:44.980 Right.

00:13:45.360 That's the only thing that can happen.

00:13:46.840 Yeah.

00:13:46.940 You know, and certainly only right-wing people own guns.

00:13:50.000 And the interesting part about this guy is he had a really far-left Twitter feed to the

00:13:54.340 point that he was supporting organizations like Antifa, which these are people that are

00:14:02.480 anti-fascists.

00:14:04.200 Yeah, right.

00:14:04.720 They just don't like racism.

00:14:06.580 That's what they are.

00:14:07.480 I've read about them a hundred times in the mainstream media.

00:14:09.680 These are people who, look, they're just standing up against fascism.

00:14:12.840 They don't like fascism or racism.

00:14:15.600 And yet this guy was supporting them and wound up killing a bunch of people.

00:14:19.220 What a weird, stunning twist.

00:14:22.100 I mean, is M. Night Shyamalan writing the news?

00:14:25.020 I don't know.

00:14:26.580 It's so difficult to understand how someone could support an anti-fascist group that is

00:14:33.300 just standing up against, you know, racism and anti-LGBT treatment.

00:14:39.220 And that person could wind up being violent?

00:14:43.760 Impossible to believe.

00:14:44.820 Impossible.

00:14:45.600 Seriously.

00:14:46.060 Impossible to believe.

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00:15:55.120 You know, the unmitigated gall of people like Elizabeth Warren, this Dayton shooter,

00:16:15.200 it's a tough plan to vote for her.

00:16:17.540 And she's out yakking about Donald Trump being responsible for El Paso.

00:16:22.540 Well, is she responsible for inspiring this guy?

00:16:26.920 Bernie Sanders doing the same thing?

00:16:29.720 He actually wasn't as strong as some of these candidates have been.

00:16:33.480 Like, Beto O'Rourke is completely out of control.

00:16:36.180 Oh, he is the worst.

00:16:37.020 He is unhinged.

00:16:38.300 Now, that, of course, fits into his standing in the polls, right?

00:16:41.400 Like, he knows he needs to make a bigger splash.

00:16:44.020 It just shows how awful these people are.

00:16:45.960 But to come out the way he has and just flat out state he's a white nationalist racist

00:16:50.740 and is responsible for this shooting.

00:16:53.500 And his rhetoric is something that you'd see in the Third Reich.

00:16:58.420 It's like, wait a minute, what?

00:17:00.040 Man.

00:17:00.960 I don't remember Hitler saying there were good people on both sides being, like, a big part

00:17:05.320 of that regime.

00:17:06.060 Yeah.

00:17:06.380 You know what I mean?

00:17:06.780 Like, I didn't like that statement.

00:17:08.440 You know, most people didn't.

00:17:09.740 Even the president himself wound up amending it later.

00:17:12.800 But it's like, that's not Third Reich rhetoric.

00:17:17.120 And do you remember when Obama or Obama's people or supporters said something that was

00:17:23.060 amiss?

00:17:23.580 It was always inartful language.

00:17:25.920 Oh, yeah.

00:17:26.440 There was something in the speech that wasn't quite right.

00:17:30.040 Why doesn't the president use those excuses like Obama did and just dismiss?

00:17:36.200 Yeah, that wasn't exactly what I was saying.

00:17:38.820 I said it wrong.

00:17:39.920 Right.

00:17:40.140 Period.

00:17:40.860 And we all know in the announcement when he declared himself for the presidency.

00:17:48.320 Right.

00:17:48.860 And he said that Mexicans were rapists and they were drug dealers.

00:17:52.940 And then he said, and I assume some of them are good people.

00:17:56.140 Well, he just put that badly.

00:17:57.700 He didn't mean that all Mexicans coming across the border are rapists.

00:18:00.960 We all know it.

00:18:02.260 He also didn't mean that some rapists are good people.

00:18:04.720 Right.

00:18:05.160 Right.

00:18:05.360 We all know that.

00:18:06.200 Right.

00:18:06.540 Even though maybe you could argue technically that's the order of the things he said.

00:18:11.160 He said some people are.

00:18:12.360 But it's like we all know that that's not what he was talking about.

00:18:16.500 This is one thing that the media does to Trump all the time.

00:18:19.120 And I think in excess to any other person I've ever seen in my entire life is like they will

00:18:25.060 sit there and make fun of him for botching statements left and right.

00:18:28.840 And look, you know, there are there are moments in Donald Trump's life where the English language

00:18:33.840 isn't exactly his friend.

00:18:35.840 They're at odds at times.

00:18:37.840 And that happens with Don from time to time.

00:18:39.880 But like the media will simultaneously mock him for that, for screwing things up, like

00:18:46.260 he said the wrong city and he said Toledo instead of Dayton for the for the shooting.

00:18:51.040 And they'll mock him like crazy for that when it benefits them to mock him when he when

00:18:56.540 he has another statement and he has a misstep or he says something the wrong way, they'll

00:19:00.220 take the thing he said the wrong way as a doctrine.

00:19:03.900 Right.

00:19:04.260 That's exactly what he meant.

00:19:05.880 And now we now know till from now till the end of time that he's a white supremacist

00:19:10.100 supremacist because that's what he said.

00:19:12.400 That's what he said.

00:19:13.160 They got all fired up and they'll act as if they believe that part of it and they'll act

00:19:18.420 as if they don't believe another part.

00:19:20.420 And it's like, you know, it's it's it is very convenient.

00:19:23.820 It's that thing that kids do when they have selective hearing.

00:19:27.000 Right.

00:19:27.420 They selectively believe him when it benefits them.

00:19:30.600 And if it's just an, you know, a nonsensical mistake, they'll be like, oh, well, he's just

00:19:35.260 look at this guy.

00:19:36.440 Another another mistype on Twitter.

00:19:39.140 You know what I mean?

00:19:39.480 They think it's funny then that it's it is it's completely disingenuous.

00:19:45.220 And I don't know that I've ever seen them do it to a single individual more than they

00:19:50.680 do it to Donald Trump.

00:19:51.600 Oh, never.

00:19:52.300 I don't think so.

00:19:53.200 I don't think it's possible.

00:19:54.420 I don't think it's possible to hate someone more than they hate Donald Trump.

00:19:59.440 Yeah, I think that's pretty clear.

00:20:00.820 A lot of this comes down to them, I think, believing that, you know what, we have these

00:20:06.560 standards and with other Republicans, we won't actually follow the standards, but we'll try

00:20:12.800 to give the appearance that we're following the standards.

00:20:15.220 They don't even they don't even do that.

00:20:16.440 No, they hate Trump more than they hate guns.

00:20:19.880 I mean, they're focusing more on him right now than they are on.

00:20:23.240 I mean, the guns is kind of an ancillary issue right now, but it's mostly Trump.

00:20:27.320 Yeah, because I'll say like there's a story out today that they are talking about executive

00:20:32.260 action by Donald Trump on guns, something I am not, not in favor of and I'm very scared

00:20:39.020 of.

00:20:39.460 But like normally they would be thrilled with something like that from a president.

00:20:43.680 They're not even addressing it.

00:20:45.060 They're just talking about his white nationalism.

00:20:47.160 That's a great point, Pat.

00:20:48.160 You're right.

00:20:48.460 They hate they hate him more than any guns.

00:20:50.080 They hate him more than that.

00:20:50.700 Yes.

00:20:51.080 That's incredible.

00:20:51.920 Yeah, it is.

00:20:52.760 Because they are really going down that road.

00:20:54.560 And the fact that they won't even challenge someone like Beto O'Rourke saying these things,

00:20:58.680 they don't they're not even challenging them.

00:21:00.300 They're just letting them.

00:21:00.780 Oh, yeah, obviously he's a white nationalist.

00:21:02.200 So can we get to the real issue that we have to debate?

00:21:04.720 It's like that's just obvious.

00:21:05.860 We all have to come out and say he's a white nationalist.

00:21:07.480 He's a racist.

00:21:08.060 He's a white supremacist.

00:21:09.200 Now what?

00:21:10.580 And it's like, wait a minute.

00:21:12.140 That way you would never have accepted that about anybody else.

00:21:15.980 No, they really are not just biased against him, but completely obsessed with this person.

00:21:21.620 They are completely obsessed with the president of the United States.

00:21:24.560 And unhinged.

00:21:25.480 Yeah.

00:21:26.400 They're not even trying.

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00:22:29.820 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn this week.

00:22:35.640 Do you remember the guy who mailed out supposed bombs to certain people who opposed Donald Trump?

00:22:44.480 What was that?

00:22:45.000 Last?

00:22:45.600 Last October.

00:22:46.580 Last, yeah.

00:22:47.180 Last October.

00:22:48.060 And it was, you know, big news personalities.

00:22:52.060 A bunch of people at CNN got them.

00:22:54.040 Some politicians.

00:22:55.380 I feel like Nancy Pelosi.

00:22:56.380 None of them exploded, though.

00:22:57.540 None of them exploded.

00:22:58.280 And we said at the time, like...

00:23:00.240 It's weird.

00:23:00.840 It's weird.

00:23:01.580 That's really bad at it, or he's not trying to kill people.

00:23:03.840 Exactly.

00:23:04.360 And I think that is a massive distinction in this case, right?

00:23:07.480 If you find out that the guy was trying to kill people and was bad at making bombs, you know, he's going to go away for a life.

00:23:13.680 If you think he's just basically trying to send a message and scare people, still a crime, right?

00:23:20.700 And when you do it through the mail, it's a big crime.

00:23:23.160 It's a federal offense.

00:23:24.080 It's a federal offense, but it's also, it's a different, we're looking at a different profile of a person, right?

00:23:29.960 Yes.

00:23:30.300 You know, we've seen a lot of people who have sent, you know, flour in packages in the mail.

00:23:36.020 People open it up, the flour bursts out, everyone freaks out, and we find out it's not anthrax, right?

00:23:42.220 Like, that's a very, that's happened, you know, a bunch of times, and it's not okay.

00:23:45.980 But it's also something that's a little bit different than actually trying to kill someone, right?

00:23:51.340 Yes.

00:23:51.740 So Cesar Sayoc was his name.

00:23:54.200 If you remember, he had the van with all the pro-Trump decals and, like, messages all over it.

00:24:00.000 And he, I mean, it was one of those things, again, you see someone with this van and you think to yourself, this is just not right.

00:24:07.320 Like, there's something definitely wrong with this dude.

00:24:09.680 So, the media treated this as if it was a mass terror attack.

00:24:17.360 Mm-hmm.

00:24:18.020 And it may have been, right?

00:24:20.460 Like, you have to take something like that seriously, but very rarely did the media bring up the possibility that what we saw there was essentially a really dark prank.

00:24:33.420 Mm-hmm.

00:24:33.960 You know?

00:24:34.300 Right.

00:24:34.600 A really dark, I hate to say it that way because it makes it sound like it's silly.

00:24:38.000 It's not silly, but it's someone who's trying to basically scare the hell out of everybody.

00:24:42.800 Well, this case has now been decided, and it hasn't made a ton of news, but I found this to be fascinating.

00:24:49.840 He was charged with 65 felony counts.

00:24:52.600 He's 57 years old.

00:24:53.720 He faced between 10 years and life in prison for this, so 10 years was the minimum he could get.

00:24:58.980 So, the judge said this, he decided that Sayoc's failure to create bombs that actually would detonate and harm his targets was, quote, a conscious choice.

00:25:11.840 So, he didn't intend to hurt them.

00:25:14.540 Right.

00:25:14.920 At all.

00:25:15.480 This is a quote from the judge.

00:25:16.480 He just wanted to scare them.

00:25:17.380 He hated his victims, he wished them no good, but he was not so lost as to wish them dead, at least not by his own hand.

00:25:24.660 Wow.

00:25:25.020 So, he basically sent devices that could not possibly detonate and kill the people that were the targets.

00:25:31.640 Mm-hmm.

00:25:31.820 Now, they were, they did have, like, fireworks in there.

00:25:34.680 So, again, you're sending fireworks to the mail.

00:25:36.620 There's all sorts of problems associated with that.

00:25:39.140 But he, he wound up getting 20 years in prison.

00:25:43.060 That seems like a lot when you're not really trying to hurt him, you're just trying to scare him.

00:25:46.440 Yeah.

00:25:46.740 And then another five years of supervised release after that.

00:25:49.380 So, it's 25 years.

00:25:51.460 Wow.

00:25:51.780 20, then I guess five years of what, home?

00:25:53.460 And see, in a federal, in a federal sentence like that, there's no parole possible.

00:25:57.020 You could be released for, you know, early for good behavior, but usually that doesn't happen.

00:26:03.500 No.

00:26:03.660 I mean, when you get a 20-year federal prison sentence, you usually, you usually serve 20 years.

00:26:10.300 So, he'd be 77 years old by the time he got out.

00:26:14.200 And look, he does not, he certainly doesn't seem like a good guy.

00:26:17.020 No.

00:26:17.100 His argument was, essentially, he's insane.

00:26:19.180 I mean, everyone, they were basically saying.

00:26:20.480 Maybe some time in a, in a mental health care facility.

00:26:24.160 Because we, I mean, Harvey Weinstein is still, like, hanging around a mansion right now.

00:26:28.560 Mm-hmm.

00:26:28.820 We have child molesters that go to jail for two years.

00:26:31.500 I mean, I remember, and then, it's been a while since the stats, so I have not seen it updated.

00:26:37.520 But at the time, we did an inconvenient book, which was mid-2000s.

00:26:42.640 So, you're going back 12, 13 years now.

00:26:44.280 So, the status is outdated.

00:26:45.780 But the average amount of time a child molester spent in prison was, like, three and a half years.

00:26:52.620 Wow.

00:26:53.640 I mean, so, this guy's getting 20 years for basically sending a bunch of fireworks in the mail.

00:27:00.280 Mm-hmm.

00:27:01.760 I will say, though, this may change your opinion.

00:27:04.820 Because I've never heard it phrased this way.

00:27:08.060 Now, again, I believe he was, wasn't he from, was he from Russia?

00:27:10.940 Or he was from the Eastern Bloc or something initially?

00:27:13.660 I don't remember exactly.

00:27:14.640 But he says this, now that I'm a sober man.

00:27:16.500 So, again, he was saying he was under the influence.

00:27:18.500 I know that I was a very sick man.

00:27:19.960 I should have listened to my mother, the love of my life.

00:27:24.260 I don't think I've...

00:27:25.280 All right.

00:27:25.600 Well, maybe this sentence was appropriate.

00:27:27.960 No, you're not arguing.

00:27:28.720 That's just kind of weird.

00:27:29.420 It should have been 30 years.

00:27:31.400 You don't say...

00:27:32.800 You don't phrase it like that about your mom.

00:27:34.200 No, you don't.

00:27:34.660 That's a little odd.

00:27:35.820 That's what's kind of strange.

00:27:36.580 Mm-hmm.

00:27:37.420 But, yeah, I guess they basically argued he was completely nuts, which I think we all know.

00:27:42.220 We saw your van.

00:27:43.460 Mm-hmm.

00:27:43.800 And, you know, sending...

00:27:45.780 It's, again, not cool.

00:27:47.580 You can't send threatening packages to people all over the country and expect to get away

00:27:51.920 with it.

00:27:52.560 20 years, though, does seem pretty strong for basically...

00:27:56.240 Yeah.

00:27:56.800 ...you know, no chance of these things actually killing anyone.

00:28:00.820 They were not designed to explode.

00:28:03.060 Mm-hmm.

00:28:03.640 That's a big difference than what we were initially told.

00:28:06.300 Maybe two years?

00:28:08.140 Three?

00:28:09.160 Yeah, and maybe some real mental...

00:28:12.320 Maybe you put them in an institution of some sort, get them some help.

00:28:17.280 I don't know.

00:28:18.340 You know, that's part of the problem is we don't have a really good system to get people

00:28:23.460 help like this, and we don't know what to do with them.

00:28:27.240 And a lot of people just, they're on their own then because we don't have any way to get

00:28:33.100 them help and make sure that they don't do anything like this.

00:28:36.000 And that's why we have so many shootings.

00:28:38.360 I don't know what the answer is with the mental health situation.

00:28:41.400 I don't know.

00:28:42.080 There's a lot of crazy people.

00:28:43.660 And, you know, involuntary committing people is scary, too.

00:28:49.240 Yeah.

00:28:49.580 Because that can be problematic.

00:28:50.820 Right.

00:28:51.060 And you just get three people that you know don't like you, and you're pretty much not

00:28:54.960 going to...

00:28:55.180 You're going to lose your weapons.

00:28:56.240 Right.

00:28:56.600 And you're going to be committed somewhere without freedom for some period of time.

00:29:01.880 It's going to be very difficult for you to reverse that.

00:29:05.040 And what are the effects afterwards?

00:29:06.560 Even if you do reverse it, you were involuntary and involuntarily committed by people who supposedly

00:29:12.560 care for you.

00:29:13.720 Right.

00:29:14.080 There's going to be some real problems with that as well.

00:29:15.580 It doesn't seem like a lot of employers are going to be excited by that, you know, once

00:29:19.680 you're out.

00:29:20.320 No.

00:29:20.580 And you're trying to get a job.

00:29:21.980 So you were involuntarily committed.

00:29:24.480 Can you walk us through that one?

00:29:26.620 Well, I have crazy relatives, so they put me away.

00:29:29.100 Okay.

00:29:30.580 We're going to get back to you.

00:29:32.680 You don't need to come back and check in with us.

00:29:34.620 Yeah.

00:29:35.140 We'll call you.

00:29:36.000 Yeah.

00:29:36.440 That's...

00:29:36.760 I do feel like that's an issue.

00:29:38.860 Mm-hmm.

00:29:39.600 And, you know, honestly, a pretty significant one with all these things.

00:29:44.400 Yeah.

00:29:44.580 I think so, too.

00:29:45.100 And that's why, again, we've decided as a society to make sure that people commit crimes

00:29:49.780 before we put them in prison.

00:29:51.040 Mm-hmm.

00:29:51.160 These red flag laws, it's something that the president brought up as sort of his five...

00:29:54.340 part of his five-point plan, overwhelmingly popular and seem like the right thing to do,

00:29:59.940 frankly.

00:30:00.820 You know, you have this idea where if there are people around you who are like, this is

00:30:05.680 a serious thing.

00:30:06.460 Like, this guy is going to commit a crime if you guys don't do something.

00:30:09.980 Mm-hmm.

00:30:10.160 You have an opportunity to step in and sort it out before the thing happens.

00:30:15.180 Seems like a really good thing to do.

00:30:16.980 I think it feels right.

00:30:18.680 But it does make me nervous, though, because you have a...

00:30:24.780 you're trusting, essentially, the state to make a decision to imprison someone and take

00:30:30.480 away their Second Amendment rights before they've committed a crime, before they've done

00:30:34.320 one little thing wrong.

00:30:35.880 Mm-hmm.

00:30:35.940 You know, being weird is not a crime.

00:30:39.140 Being a little unstable, not a crime.

00:30:41.620 Not a crime.

00:30:42.060 Being someone who...

00:30:44.900 You know, like, I was talking about this with my wife earlier today, and I think everybody

00:30:50.520 in America has had this conversation with these mass shootings as they've been going

00:30:54.060 on, and you say to yourself, well, what about this person?

00:30:58.100 I could totally see this person doing something like that.

00:31:00.640 What about that guy?

00:31:01.760 Oh, that guy's crazy.

00:31:03.700 And we came up with a few names.

00:31:06.960 Certainly, Jeffy was not one of them.

00:31:08.620 I want to make sure that that's clear right now, Jeffy, not one of the names.

00:31:12.740 You know, but, like, everybody's got those people in your life that you've worked with.

00:31:16.640 God, they're so mad about everything all the time.

00:31:19.140 They're always angry.

00:31:20.420 Like, they had that bad relationship, and now they're just angry.

00:31:22.940 Every woman they talk about is always a negative, or, you know, that person's just weird.

00:31:27.960 They're always keeping to themselves.

00:31:29.080 They're never...

00:31:29.680 Like, they're really awkward socially, or whatever that formula is that kind of tips you off,

00:31:35.700 and you have that conversation, and you toss it around with someone that you don't think

00:31:38.980 is insane.

00:31:40.000 And it's like, well, you know what?

00:31:41.700 All of the...

00:31:42.260 Like, I can say this with certainty to 99.9% of the audience who's had that conversation.

00:31:49.100 The people you're talking about aren't going to have a shooting.

00:31:51.560 They're not going to go shoot people in a bar.

00:31:53.200 They're not going to go get a gun and attack people.

00:31:55.080 They're not going to do much of anything.

00:31:56.380 They're just going to end their life weird.

00:31:58.440 Mm-hmm.

00:31:58.700 And that is not a crime.

00:32:01.520 Like, the red flag is really obvious after the guys committed the murder.

00:32:06.920 But before the guys committed the murder, then you're doing the Tom Cruise thing.

00:32:11.620 You're doing the minority report thing.

00:32:13.360 You're saying, well, this person seems like they're going to commit a crime.

00:32:16.740 The people in the milk told me all about it.

00:32:19.220 They got to arrest them.

00:32:20.780 And it's like, well, I don't know that we want to develop a system where we all get

00:32:25.600 to be the people in the milk.

00:32:26.720 That does not seem like something that's going to turn out well in the long run.

00:32:32.000 It very well might stop some crimes.

00:32:35.760 But we could, I mean, there's a lot of things you can do to stop that.

00:32:38.680 You know, you throw everybody in prison.

00:32:40.080 No crimes will be committed.

00:32:41.160 Is that a good society?

00:32:42.160 Probably not.

00:32:44.000 You know, so you could get, you know, that is a very slippery, slippery slope.

00:32:51.780 Oh, absolutely.

00:32:52.540 And I know that's an overused analogy, but it's true here.

00:32:55.600 I mean, you can get down that road in an ugly way.

00:32:58.880 And authoritarian regimes have used that sort of logic a million times.

00:33:05.260 Well, and it's why they have less crime.

00:33:07.460 Yeah.

00:33:07.740 They just, they don't have a problem putting people in jail.

00:33:10.640 Political prisoners, people that don't like, people that seem weird.

00:33:14.280 They all wind up.

00:33:15.640 China's a great example of this.

00:33:16.780 A great example.

00:33:17.600 They've got millions of people in concentration camps.

00:33:20.100 What do you think that social score is about, right?

00:33:22.260 What do you think these concentration camps for the Uyghurs are about?

00:33:24.900 These are people that say things that are slightly out of step with the Communist Party,

00:33:29.360 so they put them all in prison.

00:33:30.580 Oh, I mean, you know what?

00:33:31.460 99.9% of them would have never committed a crime, would have never gone and shot up some

00:33:36.400 government building, but they're making sure that the 0.01% of the people that would have

00:33:41.800 are in prison already, so they can't.

00:33:44.340 What a wonderful idea.

00:33:45.880 Yeah.

00:33:46.020 Now, look, these are the extremes.

00:33:47.600 I think there probably will be a lot of good usage of something like this.

00:33:51.840 It is a, it's the type of thing that if you can limit the downside, so let's just say

00:33:59.020 like, you know, myself, Pat Gray, Glenn Beck, all get together and say, you know who is

00:34:05.440 kind of freaking us out is this Jeff Fisher character, and we, Jeffy gets a red flag law

00:34:11.320 and he has to abandon his guns.

00:34:13.500 If the punishment winds up being that if they prove that we're just malicious or completely

00:34:22.400 wrong, you know, the outcome is, well, he lost, he didn't have access to his firearms

00:34:28.000 for six days, you know, something where, okay, we sorted this out quickly and it was an inconvenience

00:34:35.000 and he's pissed off at us, and then he gets his guns back.

00:34:38.480 This does not seem like a good idea.

00:34:39.520 Uh, he, uh, but he gets his guns back quickly, so you're not, you're not really doing too,

00:34:46.780 too much.

00:34:48.200 Maybe that's the type of price that you pay there for the opportunity to put someone who

00:34:52.960 really has mental issues, you know, uh, to the test.

00:34:57.040 Maybe that's it, but that is a struggle that will be very, very difficult, and you're putting

00:35:03.460 your faith in the government to decide these things well, which they don't do.

00:35:07.000 That's for sure.

00:35:09.360 Yeah, if you want to trust the government with these things, okay.

00:35:12.280 Yeah.

00:35:12.840 Ah, I don't know that I want to.

00:35:14.320 I don't know if I want to either, because they're going to say, you know who's, you know

00:35:16.560 what's really, uh, an indicator of bad behavior?

00:35:19.160 Conservative values.

00:35:20.700 Like, how far are we away from that?

00:35:22.320 Right, not.

00:35:22.940 Right?

00:35:23.280 Some, some nut job.

00:35:24.160 We're pretty much there.

00:35:25.020 Yeah, some nut job-like person who, uh, winds up committing a crime and then they look

00:35:29.020 in his records and he like, he also liked the flat tax.

00:35:32.880 You know, like, they will apply anything to this.

00:35:35.440 Yep.

00:35:36.180 888-727-VECK.

00:35:38.340 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

00:35:42.300 There's a couple of arguments that I've noticed the left is leaving out as they're talking

00:35:47.080 about gun control and white nationalism.

00:35:48.840 You're kidding, they haven't been completely thorough?

00:35:50.920 Yeah, not a couple.

00:35:52.040 I just didn't think it was completely thorough.

00:35:54.240 Okay.

00:35:55.040 Like, they've been bringing up this idea of banning, uh, high capacity magazines.

00:36:00.000 Yeah.

00:36:00.660 And I haven't seen anyone make the point of, um, what you're talking about is a little

00:36:04.280 metal container or plastic container with a spring in it.

00:36:07.640 Mm-hmm.

00:36:08.280 So what makes you think you're going to be able to ban those?

00:36:11.940 Because I can order heroin on the internet right now if I wanted to.

00:36:14.900 Like, how are you going to stop people getting shipped plastic containers with springs in them?

00:36:20.480 Um, I'm, I'm curious as to, you can't control all these much more difficult substances from

00:36:28.560 crossing the border from coming in via mail, but you're going to stop, you're going to

00:36:34.900 ban the little plastic, uh, bullet holder container thingies.

00:36:39.180 You're going to be able to do that.

00:36:41.100 That's going to be interesting to see.

00:36:43.500 It will.

00:36:44.320 Have they thought of that one out?

00:36:45.380 I haven't seen them address that one yet.

00:36:47.620 How about the border, by the way?

00:36:49.080 They keep saying they want to restrict guns, but they want an open border.

00:36:53.900 What happens in that scenario?

00:36:55.680 Think about it for a moment.

00:36:57.020 Let me give you an example.

00:36:58.020 Drugs.

00:36:58.600 How did that work out?

00:36:59.580 How, how does it work out?

00:37:01.580 When you say, you know what?

00:37:02.720 I don't want these drugs to be legal and you can argue that's a good idea or a bad idea,

00:37:06.720 but what we have border security now, what if we didn't, what if we didn't criminalize

00:37:12.040 anybody coming over the border and we incentivize more people to come?

00:37:15.060 Do you think guns might come over the border in even larger amounts?

00:37:19.680 Do you think?

00:37:21.880 That's not possible, is it?

00:37:23.420 It's an interesting combination of, of ideas.

00:37:26.740 We want really restrictive gun laws, but the border just walk across with whatever you want.

00:37:32.520 And then I also love this one because he saw that it's particularly this Dayton shooting

00:37:37.980 and they were both impressive, but the Dayton shooting, the job, the police officers did

00:37:41.820 was incredible.

00:37:42.820 They took this guy down in 30 seconds.

00:37:46.020 Right.

00:37:46.620 And in, uh, it was six minutes.

00:37:48.260 They were on, sit on the scene at the, at the random Walmart in El Paso.

00:37:51.660 Yeah.

00:37:51.960 Incredible job by the police and everyone's praising them.

00:37:55.020 You do remember these are the people that you call racist every other day of the year.

00:37:59.640 You know that one?

00:38:00.680 You know how you're saying they're targeting black people?

00:38:02.860 They accepted to save a lot of black people's lives and a lot of Hispanic people's lives

00:38:07.100 here at their own risk, going against, against people with body armor.

00:38:11.500 I don't see anybody noticing that difference either.

00:38:18.120 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:38:21.920 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:38:24.380 With Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:38:26.400 Triple eight, seven, two, seven, B-E-C-K.

00:38:28.040 That, the number to call.

00:38:29.660 If you agree with us, you got some other comments.

00:38:31.720 The number to call if you disagree is four.

00:38:36.300 And some people, I guess there's been some confusion about that, but, uh, I believe we

00:38:41.080 do have, I believe we have our first, uh, caller who has dialed the number four to disagree.

00:38:46.860 Hello.

00:38:47.720 Uh, you're on the, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.

00:38:50.600 Is this, is this Pat?

00:38:52.360 Yes.

00:38:52.860 Yes, it is.

00:38:53.400 Pat, right?

00:38:53.960 Yes.

00:38:55.300 Really?

00:38:55.980 Really.

00:38:57.100 Wow.

00:38:57.700 Yeah.

00:38:57.940 Wow.

00:38:58.220 Wait, uh, Pat.

00:39:00.200 Wow.

00:39:00.820 I love you.

00:39:02.240 And I love your show.

00:39:03.860 The Pat Gray Unleashed.

00:39:05.000 I listen, uh, to the podcast every day.

00:39:07.940 Really?

00:39:08.480 Uh, when I, on my podcast service that I use.

00:39:11.980 Okay.

00:39:12.440 And I just love, I love you.

00:39:14.440 I love Stu.

00:39:15.620 I mean, he, wow, that guy's in great shape, huh?

00:39:18.300 I mean, wow.

00:39:20.200 Wait, you think that Stu's in great shape?

00:39:22.040 Well, I mean, okay, stop doing the sit-ups, guy.

00:39:25.160 I mean, look at this, this guy's amazing.

00:39:27.300 I saw his wife on the show yesterday.

00:39:29.300 It's like, what did she do to get him, huh?

00:39:31.340 But this is.

00:39:32.080 You know what I mean?

00:39:32.540 That's, that's what I was asking myself.

00:39:34.420 Really?

00:39:34.740 You thought that she was the lucky one.

00:39:37.080 Oh my goodness.

00:39:38.300 Yeah.

00:39:38.540 Yeah.

00:39:38.840 I sure did.

00:39:39.780 Wow.

00:39:40.040 That was a fantastic.

00:39:41.540 This is kind of a line if you disagree, not if you love everything we do.

00:39:46.140 I am really embarrassed.

00:39:47.960 Yeah.

00:39:48.320 Pat.

00:39:48.800 I, cause I pressed four.

00:39:50.460 Right.

00:39:51.100 And I put the phone to my ear.

00:39:52.880 Yeah.

00:39:53.200 And the reason I did so was not because I disagreed with you.

00:39:57.580 How could I?

00:39:58.200 You guys are fantastic.

00:40:00.360 And everything you say is just, it's perfect, but I just didn't believe you.

00:40:04.640 Oh really?

00:40:05.020 I didn't believe that if I pressed four.

00:40:07.080 Yeah.

00:40:07.440 And put the phone to my ear and didn't press send, that someone would just pick up and

00:40:11.220 I'd be on national radio.

00:40:12.680 But it happened, right?

00:40:13.500 But here I am.

00:40:14.580 Yeah.

00:40:15.160 Yeah.

00:40:15.300 And wow.

00:40:16.060 I mean, this first of all proves that if you disagree, you should press four.

00:40:21.460 Right.

00:40:21.620 And put it up to your ear.

00:40:22.740 You should do it right now.

00:40:23.860 Well, thank you for that testimonial.

00:40:25.120 I appreciate that.

00:40:25.820 And secondly, it must prove that not a lot of people disagree with you.

00:40:29.760 You must be making points that are so airtight.

00:40:32.560 So powerful.

00:40:33.960 That people can't disagree.

00:40:35.780 That may be true.

00:40:36.980 I just want to apologize.

00:40:38.800 All right.

00:40:39.100 Because I should not have done that.

00:40:40.360 I should not have doubted you guys.

00:40:42.440 You know, you with that incredible credibility of the Pat Gray Unleashed podcast I listen to

00:40:47.720 every day.

00:40:48.360 Right.

00:40:48.560 And Stu with the abs.

00:40:51.120 You know.

00:40:51.880 Now you've seen his abs.

00:40:53.060 Oh my gosh.

00:40:54.180 I've known Stu for a long time.

00:40:55.460 I've never seen his abs.

00:40:56.600 You can see him through the shirt.

00:40:57.920 But that's how defiant they are.

00:41:00.540 It's incredible.

00:41:00.840 I'm looking right now directly at him.

00:41:03.660 I can't see his abs.

00:41:04.800 This man.

00:41:06.240 Wow.

00:41:06.780 It's like, you know, can you take a break?

00:41:09.760 Can you take a break from the gym for one day?

00:41:13.120 I mean, he must live there.

00:41:14.660 I don't think that's a big problem really.

00:41:16.900 You don't have a gram of fat.

00:41:18.540 Have one gram of fat occasionally.

00:41:21.260 The man is just, it's, it's, he's like the rock.

00:41:24.400 Okay.

00:41:24.760 Appreciate your call.

00:41:26.020 The guy looks like the rock to me.

00:41:26.760 We're all out of time.

00:41:28.100 Okay.

00:41:28.360 Thank you very much.

00:41:29.060 I love your show.

00:41:29.620 I love Pat Gray.

00:41:30.240 I love you.

00:41:30.540 I love Stu's abs.

00:41:31.380 All right.

00:41:31.680 Thank you.

00:41:32.700 More coming up in 60 seconds.

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00:42:51.840 Or, you know, if you disagree, the number four, as we just found out.

00:42:55.200 Except for somebody just checking to see if the number four worked.

00:42:59.540 And he found out it did.

00:43:00.540 And he proved that it worked.

00:43:01.600 And that was very nice of him to say.

00:43:02.880 I mean, look, I do take a day off from time to time.

00:43:05.920 Do you?

00:43:06.240 From the gym.

00:43:06.820 Because he didn't think so.

00:43:08.500 But I mean, you know, look, I appreciate that.

00:43:10.860 I think he knows that, you know, once a month I have a day off.

00:43:14.580 But he's thinking to himself, you know, it's just a nice way of being complimentary.

00:43:18.120 And I appreciate that.

00:43:19.600 And don't say those things about my wife.

00:43:21.140 Yes, she's lucky.

00:43:22.460 I mean, we all know that.

00:43:23.640 I mean, just to point it out on national radio is just, I don't think it's productive.

00:43:27.200 I don't think it's productive.

00:43:28.380 Yeah.

00:43:29.200 The president and his aides are seeking options right now to address gun violence that would circumvent Congress.

00:43:39.440 Wow.

00:43:40.600 Isn't that great?

00:43:41.240 That sounds wonderful.

00:43:43.320 I think we're supposed to be for that, right?

00:43:46.180 We're supposed to.

00:43:47.400 Well, do you support the president or not?

00:43:50.860 Do you?

00:43:51.920 You know, that's on something like that.

00:43:54.480 No, I do not.

00:43:56.000 But when he does things that I think are really good policies, which he's had plenty of those and we've discussed them many, many times.

00:44:01.780 Yes.

00:44:02.240 Sure.

00:44:02.660 Absolutely support him.

00:44:03.780 But not blindly.

00:44:04.820 And if the guy wants to take executive action on guns, that is not something I'm comfortable with from any president, whether it's Barack Obama or George W. Bush or Donald Trump.

00:44:16.380 President Trump is exploring ways to use regulatory power and executive action to curb gun violence after a pair of deadly shootings.

00:44:23.960 A move driven by his aides belief that Congress is incapable of coalescing around consensus legislation.

00:44:32.100 Well, good.

00:44:32.780 Yeah, because too many of them believe in the Second Amendment.

00:44:36.680 That's why.

00:44:37.560 Now, that says if you want to infringe it, you need to do it with executive action, right?

00:44:41.540 That's how that reads.

00:44:42.420 No, it says shall not be infringed.

00:44:44.380 But unless you get Congress to agree.

00:44:47.600 There's no one less.

00:44:48.640 No.

00:44:49.380 Nothing parenthetical in there.

00:44:51.420 No?

00:44:51.600 Nothing assumed in there.

00:44:54.420 Now, a lot of the founders wrote an invisible ink.

00:44:56.780 Can we see the invisible ink around that?

00:44:58.960 Well, we did.

00:44:59.360 We used the blow dryer on it and blue on it and then used the lemon juice, you know, and

00:45:06.560 we couldn't find anything.

00:45:08.260 Did we use the Ovaltine decoder ring?

00:45:10.440 No, we haven't tried that yet, but they should.

00:45:12.200 Let's try that.

00:45:13.280 White House officials said Trump and U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr are resolved to take action

00:45:20.940 after the shootings.

00:45:22.240 They're exploring solutions that actually make an impact as opposed to things that feel good.

00:45:27.720 But he's increasingly relied on his executive authority to address issues that have stained

00:45:33.000 his administration, including the gun violence epidemic.

00:45:36.360 Ten months after a teen gunman killed 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School last

00:45:42.480 year, the Trump administration issued a rule at the president's request to ban the sale

00:45:46.600 and possession of the bump stocks.

00:45:48.720 So he's already done that.

00:45:50.240 And completely unconstitutional.

00:45:53.460 Yeah.

00:45:54.040 And we fought about it at the time.

00:45:56.340 We, you know, it's such a minor thing.

00:45:58.580 You know, I'm never buying a bump stock.

00:45:59.860 I don't know anybody who would ever buy a bump stock and bump stocks.

00:46:04.200 Obviously, the one time I've ever heard of them used in my entire life, a lot of people

00:46:07.640 died.

00:46:08.080 I didn't even know they existed.

00:46:08.900 I didn't even know they existed until Las Vegas.

00:46:10.640 Yeah.

00:46:10.840 That being said, you can't infringe.

00:46:14.160 There's you shall not infringe.

00:46:16.240 So the idea that you can do this without even legislation.

00:46:19.320 You can't.

00:46:20.120 Is really, really.

00:46:21.620 You know how you can do this constitutional amendment.

00:46:23.880 Yep.

00:46:24.140 That's it.

00:46:24.680 That's how you can do it.

00:46:25.460 You can do it.

00:46:26.260 Right.

00:46:26.600 You know, the shall not be infringed really does have a parenthetical unless you take

00:46:30.720 this amendment out.

00:46:31.820 Right.

00:46:32.460 And then you can infringe all you want.

00:46:33.800 There will be those who say, well, that takes too long.

00:46:35.600 That's too hard.

00:46:36.700 It's supposed to be.

00:46:37.920 You know why?

00:46:39.040 Because by the time something gets done, people have had the chance to cool down, think about

00:46:44.400 it and think logically rather than irrationally through emotion.

00:46:48.100 Yep.

00:46:48.240 And that's the way we're thinking right this second.

00:46:50.140 It's supposed to be hard to because these are important rights.

00:46:56.980 They can't just be taken away through an executive action in the whim of the executive branch.

00:47:02.260 You can't deal with that.

00:47:03.200 Yeah.

00:47:03.380 I don't know how people are going to defend this.

00:47:06.260 How do you defend this?

00:47:07.980 His defenders always defend it.

00:47:09.740 But I don't know how you do on this particular case.

00:47:12.060 Well, it's common sense.

00:47:13.160 Common sense reforms, Pat.

00:47:14.860 Uh-huh.

00:47:15.440 I don't know.

00:47:16.140 Through executive action.

00:47:16.900 Through executive action.

00:47:17.540 And I actually completely disagree with the premise, too.

00:47:20.400 So do I.

00:47:20.720 If Donald Trump came out for a set of specific gun restrictions in legislation, you're telling

00:47:27.140 me you couldn't get 20 Republican senators on board with that?

00:47:31.300 Every Democrat would theoretically go along with it if it was gun restrictions.

00:47:34.700 You could pass it through the Senate.

00:47:36.020 By the way, still wouldn't be constitutional.

00:47:38.980 Right.

00:47:39.680 But in theory, you could get it through.

00:47:41.680 You could get it through.

00:47:42.420 In theory, you could.

00:47:43.360 I think relatively easily.

00:47:43.920 I don't know why.

00:47:44.400 If anything, it doesn't make sense to me politically that Trump would want to take this on his own.

00:47:50.620 I don't understand it.

00:47:52.000 And put the pressure on himself rather than have it go through Congress.

00:47:54.760 Where still, it would probably be ruled unconstitutional later on.

00:47:58.500 At least there would be a good chance of that.

00:48:01.220 I don't.

00:48:02.320 Look, it is, of course, a very emotional thing.

00:48:06.640 And you don't make good decisions about such topics when you're emotional.

00:48:11.420 And that's why the Congress is there.

00:48:15.440 That's why the Constitution is there.

00:48:17.840 To slow these things down so you don't act.

00:48:19.700 Checks and balances.

00:48:20.580 Yeah.

00:48:20.980 That's why we have co-equal branches of government so that somebody can stop emotional action.

00:48:25.680 Yeah.

00:48:25.900 And we don't have to guess, by the way, how Republicans and talk show listeners would react

00:48:30.120 if Barack Obama put in executive action on guns because he threatened it a million times.

00:48:35.320 And I heard people how they reacted badly.

00:48:38.340 Right.

00:48:38.980 And they should.

00:48:40.060 And here's the one positive.

00:48:41.400 And if he reacted badly to Obama.

00:48:43.480 Yeah.

00:48:44.860 And executive action on guns.

00:48:47.460 Don't you?

00:48:48.640 Where are you now?

00:48:50.480 Where are you now?

00:48:51.180 You got to be there for this, too.

00:48:53.020 I would think so.

00:48:54.140 I would think so.

00:48:54.800 I mean, I think a lot of a lot of times, you know, look, people and I think that the president

00:48:58.420 has done fantastic things that I don't think he would do.

00:49:01.520 Absolutely.

00:49:02.040 He's proved us wrong a bunch of times.

00:49:03.760 Yep.

00:49:04.180 And so hopefully I think the best case scenario of this article is they're floating this.

00:49:08.500 Yeah.

00:49:09.140 To see how Republicans and conservatives will react to it.

00:49:12.200 Maybe it'll be stopped if they react negatively like they did like they have on other after

00:49:17.540 the shooting was it?

00:49:19.300 It was there was there was a different shooting that he talked about potentially doing something

00:49:23.500 on guns.

00:49:24.860 The American people reacted relatively poorly to that idea.

00:49:29.100 And he wound up backing off of it.

00:49:30.960 And so maybe that's the same thing.

00:49:32.320 The Florida thing?

00:49:32.840 It may have been Florida.

00:49:34.040 You know, but I'll give you this.

00:49:34.880 This is from the Tim Alberta book, American Carnage.

00:49:37.640 And I caught this as I was reading and I was like, wait a minute.

00:49:40.640 I had to read it two or three times because this actually happened.

00:49:45.280 He says he's confirmed this.

00:49:46.900 He's got quotes in it from people who are in the room.

00:49:49.480 Here's what it says.

00:49:50.540 The only unusual part.

00:49:51.460 This is talking about the Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer who shot a bunch of Republicans.

00:49:57.560 You might remember Bernie Sanders as the guy telling us that Donald Trump's speech is

00:50:01.880 responsible for the murders from this past weekend.

00:50:04.380 So the guy who volunteered for the campaign, not just the guy who said things said the word

00:50:12.940 invasion.

00:50:13.440 And Donald Trump has also used the word invasion, which is about as much of a tie as they have

00:50:17.880 between Trump and the guy in El Paso.

00:50:20.400 This guy actually volunteered for the campaign of Bernie Sanders and tried to kill a bunch

00:50:26.100 of congressmen that were Republicans.

00:50:28.720 When that was going on, as the aftermath is going on, this is in this book, American Carnage.

00:50:34.200 The only unusual part of Trump's response was his fixation in discussions with doctors

00:50:38.400 at the hospital and later with Scalise himself on the size of the bullet.

00:50:43.620 There was also a question he posed to friends and aides in the days following the shooting.

00:50:48.860 Quote, should we do gun control?

00:50:51.100 The president asked.

00:50:52.440 Quote, Steve can lead the way.

00:50:54.240 He's got street credibility now.

00:50:56.500 End quote.

00:50:57.940 Wow.

00:50:58.300 Now, I have not heard anyone in the administration dispute that account of what happened.

00:51:05.100 And so I'm concerned because if you look back at Donald Trump, there's basically three types

00:51:12.260 of Donald Trump policies, right?

00:51:14.780 The policy that Donald Trump has supported rock solidly since he came into the public eye

00:51:21.800 in the 1980s, like trade protectionism, tariffs, right?

00:51:25.540 Like he has been, you know, absolutely rock solid on that policy since the 80s.

00:51:30.760 Consistent every step of the day.

00:51:32.560 Then there's the type of policy where, you know, as he became a Republican nominee, he embraced

00:51:38.480 and there were a lot of questions as to whether he really believed it.

00:51:42.880 And I think his actions have shown that he had a conversion on that topic.

00:51:49.780 One I happen to believe with Donald Trump is abortion.

00:51:53.400 He was absolutely a pro.

00:51:55.280 He's been great on that.

00:51:56.000 Choice guy for most of his life.

00:51:58.220 Yeah.

00:51:58.500 And I actually believe he's had a conversion and he's been good on that topic.

00:52:02.380 And I can't question him on that one.

00:52:04.940 I think he's legitimate and he's a conservative on that.

00:52:08.040 The third category is a conservative policy where you're kind of like, I don't know.

00:52:13.500 And guns is in that category.

00:52:14.880 And I'm not super committed.

00:52:16.160 Yeah.

00:52:16.720 He wrote in a book back in the day that he was for the assault weapons ban.

00:52:21.360 Like, I mean, he was, it was not a minor part of his belief system.

00:52:24.100 He's been very anti-Second Amendment.

00:52:26.320 Now, when he came into office, he's put in Neil Gorsuch.

00:52:29.620 I think Kavanaugh is pretty good on guns.

00:52:31.580 I have questions on him on other topics, but guns is not really one of them.

00:52:35.220 Guns are not really one of them.

00:52:36.620 So he's had things that he's been really good with guns.

00:52:41.040 The bump stock thing was really bad.

00:52:43.060 He's had threats of gun control several times.

00:52:46.660 Uh, this account is, does not fill you with confidence.

00:52:49.920 And so now he's exploring executive action on guns.

00:52:53.020 I'm nervous about it.

00:52:54.080 I think we, I think if, if, if, I think if conservatives send a message, his base sends a message,

00:52:57.840 Hey, don't go down that road.

00:52:59.320 That's not good.

00:52:59.920 It's not good.

00:53:00.340 We don't want that.

00:53:01.120 We don't want that for you and your legacy.

00:53:03.520 Like, I think he will back off of it, but I, it does, it is concerning.

00:53:07.280 It is concerning.

00:53:08.080 It is.

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00:54:32.240 Let's go to Don in Missouri.

00:54:34.400 Hey, Don, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.

00:54:37.340 Hey, good morning.

00:54:38.420 Morning.

00:54:39.760 Morning.

00:54:40.260 Hey, I've got a solution for all this violent stuff.

00:54:42.880 Oh, good.

00:54:43.220 We need to get more police officers.

00:54:45.340 Let's have, like, two or three police officers for every single person in the entire United States.

00:54:52.000 That's a lot of police officers.

00:54:53.360 Oh, I know.

00:54:55.140 Just follow it.

00:54:55.940 All the work is here, and then we'll have, make sure that we know that everybody, you know,

00:54:59.720 whoever's a bad person, we'll know who, everybody that's bad, we'll know about, you know, their

00:55:04.200 tendencies and everything.

00:55:05.380 Right.

00:55:05.620 And then we'll go ahead and we'll control where they live.

00:55:08.920 It's called prison.

00:55:10.780 And people still die in prison.

00:55:13.000 They still get murdered in prison.

00:55:14.480 Yeah.

00:55:14.780 They still get raped in prison.

00:55:16.440 Yeah.

00:55:16.680 I don't want to live in prison.

00:55:18.080 I want to live in a free country.

00:55:19.740 Yeah.

00:55:20.060 I'm tired of them trying to make me more safe.

00:55:22.080 Yeah.

00:55:22.280 I want to live in a free country.

00:55:24.020 I will take the responsibility of any dangers, but we need to stop going down this road trying

00:55:29.660 to solve every single crazy person that's out there that's going to kill somebody.

00:55:34.860 That's a great, great point.

00:55:36.020 Missouri, show me, state.

00:55:36.920 Yeah.

00:55:37.180 Show me.

00:55:38.440 Thanks.

00:55:38.880 Thanks, Don.

00:55:39.360 Appreciate it.

00:55:39.760 And he didn't need to press four to disagree, because I agree with him on that point.

00:55:43.160 That's a great point, because that is the type of thing you're talking about.

00:55:46.380 I mean, China tries to create that for its people.

00:55:48.180 You want that?

00:55:49.000 No.

00:55:49.440 I don't want it.

00:55:50.620 And you talk about dying in prison.

00:55:51.860 We just had that huge story from Brazil where 57, 58 people died in a prison riot just this

00:55:59.040 week.

00:56:00.260 So, yeah, prison is not a safe place.

00:56:02.720 And you could make the U.S. a prison if you want.

00:56:05.920 And we don't want that.

00:56:07.920 Will in Georgia.

00:56:09.280 Hi.

00:56:09.600 You're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.

00:56:12.320 Hey, guys.

00:56:13.000 Hey.

00:56:13.360 So, it's weird.

00:56:14.160 I pressed the four to my ear, and somehow, I don't know if I got rerouted through Friendster,

00:56:17.740 but I ended up here.

00:56:18.640 Okay, cool.

00:56:19.340 Weird.

00:56:19.620 I called in last year to Pat's show to talk about the gun violence issue.

00:56:27.040 I felt like I had a unique perspective being a graduate of Parkland High School and with

00:56:31.580 Aaron Feist, who died that day.

00:56:34.900 And so, unfortunately, I think this violence issue is a challenge because it goes against

00:56:42.960 the utopia that, you know, the left has for all of their policies.

00:56:49.060 And, you know, they're trying to solve a problem that can't be solved.

00:56:51.720 This isn't a gun issue.

00:56:52.620 This is just strictly an evil issue.

00:56:55.440 And particularly with mental health, you know, it obviously needs to be addressed to some

00:56:59.880 extent.

00:57:00.300 But I'm concerned that if you give that over to bureaucracy and to politicians, you know,

00:57:06.260 big tech is already extending conservative thought into hate speech.

00:57:09.680 And it's not too far off in the future where that's going to be labeled as some sort of

00:57:14.500 mental health issue.

00:57:16.100 And, you know, this, this, I think the only solution to this is this country needs to turn

00:57:20.760 back to its roots.

00:57:22.860 And this is revival or bust.

00:57:24.880 Don't say it.

00:57:25.600 Don't say it.

00:57:26.220 Turn back to God.

00:57:27.420 Oh, is that what you're, if you're heading that?

00:57:30.220 I'm doing it.

00:57:30.820 You're heading down that road.

00:57:32.220 Oh, my.

00:57:33.060 I'm doing it.

00:57:33.580 Wow.

00:57:34.060 Yeah.

00:57:34.620 Well, I, you know.

00:57:35.360 That is the only, seriously, that's the answer to every problem we have.

00:57:40.400 Yeah.

00:57:40.980 I mean, it's.

00:57:41.520 Every problem.

00:57:42.160 Appreciate it, Will.

00:57:42.760 Thanks.

00:57:43.160 I'll give you one.

00:57:43.760 I mean, the guy who founded 8chan.

00:57:46.220 So 4chan was this crazy message board where people had all sorts of threats and it was,

00:57:51.100 you know, this free speech paradise where everyone basically is anonymous and it winds up,

00:57:54.940 a lot of these people post their manifestos on it.

00:57:57.060 Is that on the dark web or is that on?

00:57:58.780 I guess.

00:57:59.380 I don't know.

00:57:59.840 I'm not a.

00:58:00.380 I don't understand the 4chan 8chan thing.

00:58:02.480 I don't either.

00:58:03.000 Really.

00:58:03.580 Um, but the 8chan guy, he's a guy, he's in a wheelchair and he's, you know, he decided

00:58:08.580 he wanted to, you know, uh, to come up with this free speech, you know, he wanted it to

00:58:13.380 be his legacy, this free speech, you know, paradise, anonymous free speech.

00:58:17.140 So they created 8chan, uh, the, uh, a few years into it decided to, uh, offload it cause

00:58:24.240 he has issues.

00:58:25.100 Uh, you know, he's, it's not easy for him to moderate it, to, to control a site like

00:58:30.020 that.

00:58:30.240 So he wound up giving it to someone else.

00:58:31.920 It's turned into this thing.

00:58:33.420 The 8chan guy now is saying, shut the site down, shut it down.

00:58:37.100 Like it's no longer worth it.

00:58:38.380 It's like turned into this awful thing.

00:58:40.100 And these shooters and these people with violent, you know, and racism and all of these terrible

00:58:44.220 things that have come out of this.

00:58:45.340 And I, it's not what I wanted for the site.

00:58:46.860 Now he doesn't have control over it.

00:58:48.080 He can't do it.

00:58:48.740 But one of the things that's changed in his life since those days is he's now attending

00:58:52.320 church and he's, he's, he's, his life has changed in a major way.

00:58:58.500 You know, that, you know, we've, these, these conversions, even for the worst among us, uh,

00:59:03.600 when you're talking about, go, go to the deep white nationalist.

00:59:05.860 I mean, we've talked to, uh, Megan Phelps Roper, who, uh, who is, you may recognize her

00:59:13.060 name, Phelps, being a child of the Phelps family of the Westboro Baptist church.

00:59:20.040 Right.

00:59:20.620 And she was actually converted out of that life where she's holding up.

00:59:26.000 I hope all these soldiers die and all that, you know, at, you know, soldiers funerals

00:59:30.080 and she's now a upstanding member of society.

00:59:32.680 These things can happen.

00:59:33.700 They're difficult.

00:59:34.500 They don't happen easily, but they can happen.

00:59:37.060 But when do they happen?

00:59:38.560 When you turn to God.

00:59:40.760 Many times.

00:59:41.280 Yeah.

00:59:41.520 Yeah.

00:59:42.360 Triple eight, seven, two, seven, B E C K.

00:59:44.660 Or of course, if you disagree, the number four and then hold the phone to your ear.

00:59:50.760 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

00:59:52.600 You can check out my show, Pat Gray Unleashed, uh, on the Blaze

00:59:55.840 Radio and Television Network immediately preceding this one or on podcast at any

01:00:00.900 time of the day or night at your leisure.

01:00:02.900 Uh, we've got a great, another great segment of liberals eating their own, own, own, own.

01:00:11.860 I, I always love it.

01:00:13.420 I always love it.

01:00:14.100 This is your favorite thing about life.

01:00:15.580 It is.

01:00:16.180 It is.

01:00:17.760 Neil deGrasse Tyson, who's one of the biggest radical liberals, uh, one of the

01:00:22.420 biggest loud mouths there is, uh, actually.

01:00:25.840 He really said something, uh, true about the shootings.

01:00:30.740 What?

01:00:31.300 Yeah.

01:00:31.700 He, he said in the past 40, he tweeted this out.

01:00:35.500 In the past 48 hours, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

01:00:40.180 On average, across any 48 hours, we also lose 500 to medical errors, 300 to the flu, 250 to

01:00:49.660 suicide, 200 to car accidents, 40 to homicide via handgun.

01:00:55.120 Often, our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.

01:00:59.620 Hmm.

01:00:59.880 How dare you talk facts while we're going ape crap crazy?

01:01:05.340 How dare you?

01:01:06.540 So the, you know, the Twitter world went nuts on him and he's apologized.

01:01:11.520 Of course he has.

01:01:12.580 Of course.

01:01:13.260 Oh, thank God.

01:01:14.120 He has finally.

01:01:15.140 He has.

01:01:16.100 He came to his senses.

01:01:16.620 Because he wrote the wrong numbers.

01:01:18.180 Those aren't even true.

01:01:19.060 No, they're all true.

01:01:19.780 There's not 40 people.

01:01:20.300 They're all true.

01:01:21.380 No, but some of them were a little bit off.

01:01:23.200 No, they weren't off at all.

01:01:24.700 They were all true.

01:01:25.300 The science from the scientist was a little, when you make a mistake as a scientist, you

01:01:28.900 apologize for it.

01:01:29.700 You do.

01:01:30.220 And he made no mistakes here.

01:01:31.520 These are all accurate figures.

01:01:32.840 So all those numbers where you said 500 people died from medical mistakes.

01:01:36.780 300 to the flu, 250 to, all of it's true.

01:01:39.600 Yeah.

01:01:40.260 Yeah.

01:01:40.600 In any 48 hour period of time.

01:01:43.960 But they don't want to hear that.

01:01:46.260 He did say maybe that was the wrong time.

01:01:48.720 And, you know, maybe the day of the shootings, it is the wrong time.

01:01:52.040 You can sort of.

01:01:52.460 I don't know.

01:01:53.420 Look, I think.

01:01:54.480 The politicization, the politicization, politicization.

01:01:57.460 Yeah, sure.

01:01:58.520 Politicizing this was already going on.

01:02:01.720 Of course it was.

01:02:02.620 By everybody.

01:02:03.580 Yeah.

01:02:04.260 It usually is, right?

01:02:05.980 And it happens quickly.

01:02:07.120 And to that point, maybe we could play this clip real quick.

01:02:10.220 Here's Mika Brzezinski.

01:02:11.380 This is audio.

01:02:12.920 Mika Brzezinski talking about this political issue that Democrats can get some traction from.

01:02:17.960 This is an issue that resonates with voters.

01:02:20.780 This is an issue that resonates with young people who have grown up in the age of mass shootings afraid that they may come to their school because it has become a way of life.

01:02:31.640 It seems to me that this political issue could be something that the Democrats could get some traction on.

01:02:37.980 So you get some traction on the bodies of the dead.

01:02:40.620 Because you get good traction.

01:02:41.580 You get good.

01:02:41.920 And your shoes won't slip off of that giant pile of dead bodies you're putting your campaign on top of.

01:02:49.000 That is wonderful.

01:02:50.220 That is insane.

01:02:51.660 Insipid.

01:02:52.320 It really is.

01:02:52.960 I mean, that is awful.

01:02:53.900 What's wrong with you?

01:02:55.420 I...

01:02:55.820 Wow.

01:02:57.020 How do you even think that way?

01:02:59.120 It's fascinating, though, I think, when you look at, you know, the DeGrasse Tyson part of this.

01:03:06.140 He is really right on this.

01:03:08.560 And we have a massive problem in this country.

01:03:10.740 He's absolutely right on it.

01:03:11.440 When it comes to this type of thing where we really look at these big spectacle events and act as if those are the major problem.

01:03:23.460 Like, you know, there's this thing going on right now.

01:03:25.420 And we're going to talk about this tonight on TV.

01:03:26.600 I'm going to be hosting the TV program for Glenn at 5 p.m. Eastern.

01:03:29.900 Love to have you tune in.

01:03:31.800 I will.

01:03:32.240 Thank you for inviting me.

01:03:33.480 I needed to invite you.

01:03:34.580 Yeah.

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01:03:36.580 Yeah, great.

01:03:36.940 Are you a subscriber?

01:03:37.960 I am.

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01:03:43.500 Something like that, yeah.

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01:03:46.760 But it's $20 off if you use the Glenn.

01:03:48.980 I don't know if the Glenn thing is still $20.

01:03:50.280 Oh, is that?

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01:03:54.800 So we're talking about, one of the things we're talking about is this stat continually

01:04:00.400 being tossed around by the media about how there's, you know, 250 mass shootings this

01:04:07.840 year so far.

01:04:09.520 That's how bad it is in America.

01:04:11.160 Wait, 250?

01:04:11.840 250?

01:04:12.160 250 mass shootings just so far, Pat.

01:04:19.140 And you know there's going to be more.

01:04:22.320 No, it's true.

01:04:23.160 In fact, the number is now, let's see, this year, incidents in 2019, I'm looking forward

01:04:32.120 here, mass shootings, 253 now, 253 mass shootings this year in the United States.

01:04:41.180 Did you know that, Pat?

01:04:42.280 Did you know that?

01:04:42.960 Stop it.

01:04:43.320 This shows how big of a problem it is, doesn't it?

01:04:45.260 It's a pretty big problem, yeah.

01:04:46.060 And that's why we need to stop white supremacy in its tracks, right?

01:04:50.860 They were all white supremacist related.

01:04:53.400 Yeah, this is the issue.

01:04:54.760 You can't get both of these things.

01:04:57.480 You're going to, as the media, need to choose whether you want the number of 253 mass shootings

01:05:04.940 or alternatively, you want to blame evil white people with their big scary guns because they're

01:05:12.740 two different things.

01:05:14.320 Because if you want to say, you know what the problem is, white supremacy and Donald Trump

01:05:18.700 and all these people with their gamer gear and their body armor walking into these places

01:05:23.920 and shooting at malls, it is a massive problem.

01:05:26.180 But if you want to blame mass shootings on that, you have to talk about the spectacle mass

01:05:30.760 shooting that we're all discussing, right?

01:05:32.800 Yes.

01:05:33.080 Which is what everyone means when they're talking about mass shooting, right?

01:05:35.800 You go into, you know, some guy walks in, starts indiscriminately firing at people all

01:05:41.020 over the place.

01:05:42.020 The problem is, if they want to have that, they can't also have the number of 253 mass

01:05:47.360 shootings, which they also want.

01:05:49.100 The problem is, with 253 mass shootings, there's a specific definition, and it comes down to basically

01:05:54.660 four people shot in a single incident.

01:05:57.000 Not necessarily killed, but shot in a single incident.

01:05:59.300 So the number goes way up.

01:06:00.540 Well, to get that number way up, you're including a massive number of gang violence incidents

01:06:05.860 that are not done by white supremacists.

01:06:08.240 These are not white supremacist gangs in Chicago committing this violence.

01:06:11.380 So now, the profile of the person who's actually the problem in mass shootings looks nothing like

01:06:18.080 the gamer with the gamer gear and the body armor.

01:06:21.140 You can't blame white supremacists for gang violence in Chicago.

01:06:25.180 That's not how that works.

01:06:26.260 So you have to have one or the other.

01:06:28.240 You need to pick one of those two things.

01:06:30.340 We know you want both narratives.

01:06:32.300 What you want to say, of course, is a bunch of white people are committing 253 mass shootings

01:06:36.680 every year.

01:06:37.460 The problem is, you don't get both of those.

01:06:39.720 So if you want to embrace 253, you have to address the much more serious problem in our

01:06:44.800 country, and by the way, it is much more serious, of gang violence and violence in

01:06:50.940 inner cities, where far more of the devastation when it comes to body count happens.

01:06:56.860 It's not, I mean, yes, these incidents are terrible, and they're in our public view, and

01:07:01.760 they're the things that we talk about.

01:07:03.540 And we want them to stop.

01:07:04.680 Right.

01:07:05.040 But as Neil deGrasse Tyson pointed out, I think you said, Pat, it was 40 by handguns, if

01:07:10.320 I remember the number right?

01:07:11.260 Yes.

01:07:11.740 In 48 hours.

01:07:12.660 In 48 hours.

01:07:13.300 That's the normal two-day number.

01:07:16.200 Yeah.

01:07:16.340 The number for these mass shootings that we think of with the white supremacists walking

01:07:20.920 into the Walmart, that number was 34.

01:07:24.480 Well, and if you're going to include injuries, too, these are homicides.

01:07:28.600 So these are murders.

01:07:30.080 Now, the 253 number you're using includes just people shot.

01:07:33.840 Yeah, sometimes there's not even deaths.

01:07:35.740 So if you're talking about injuries due to handguns, that number goes way up.

01:07:41.520 Yeah, and think of this, Pat.

01:07:43.160 So he says 40 deaths, okay, when it comes to a normal two-day period with handguns.

01:07:53.140 The worst day we can remember, really, with two mass shootings in the same 48-hour period,

01:07:59.240 you had 34.

01:08:00.500 However, it's not two mass shootings.

01:08:02.560 To get to 34, you have to include two mass shootings in Chicago, which killed, I believe,

01:08:08.780 five people, the total for the two other mass shootings is now 31, so it's up a little bit.

01:08:14.580 But it was 29, I believe, at the time he posted this.

01:08:17.240 So you're talking about five of those deaths coming from the other sort of definition of

01:08:22.500 mass shooting in just one city.

01:08:25.080 So again, like...

01:08:26.480 That's a different kind of mass shooting.

01:08:27.740 It shows we should really step...

01:08:31.240 The problem here, really, is the number of acting as if there are 253 mass shootings in

01:08:37.640 this country.

01:08:38.160 We all know what we mean when we define mass shooting.

01:08:41.240 Mass shooting...

01:08:42.140 And the FBI has a much more realistic definition with four...

01:08:45.300 I think it's four people are more dying, which usually has an incident where 12 or other are

01:08:50.180 injured, right?

01:08:50.660 It's a big incident.

01:08:52.160 And it's a much more usable number.

01:08:53.760 The media doesn't care if it's realistic or accurate because they want the bigger number.

01:08:58.460 They want to chase down the largest number to scare you as much as possible when it comes

01:09:02.300 to the issue of guns.

01:09:03.400 Well, when the overwhelming amount of those incidents are happening, A, with gang violence

01:09:09.720 in inner city areas, and B, with domestic violence situations that are completely disconnected

01:09:15.860 to what you would picture as a public mass shooting, which was what we're all discussing

01:09:19.740 here, they are doing this intentionally to fool their moronic viewers who never questioned

01:09:25.580 these things.

01:09:26.980 And that's a huge problem.

01:09:29.140 It's why...

01:09:29.840 It's the same reason why they're telling you El Paso was solely about white supremacy when

01:09:34.560 it was also very clearly about environmental concerns as written in the killer's manifesto

01:09:41.000 that they keep not showing you.

01:09:42.320 It's a huge problem, and it's hard to...

01:09:46.160 Even as a defender of the media at times, because I think they do some good work, it's

01:09:51.460 not all fake news.

01:09:52.640 I don't like that deconstruction of it.

01:09:55.240 But it's like, it's hard to defend you when you're doing stuff like this.

01:09:58.140 You are blatantly lying to people to get something done.

01:10:02.100 That's activism.

01:10:03.100 That is not journalism.

01:10:04.440 Yeah.

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01:10:18.680 Chris in North Carolina.

01:10:20.980 You're on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:10:21.980 Hi.

01:10:23.380 Hi, folks.

01:10:24.420 Hey.

01:10:24.760 I just wanted to say, I'm actually a member of Grassroots North Carolina, and we're a

01:10:29.960 state-level gun rights group.

01:10:31.640 I worked for President Trump on his campaign, and I was a wholehearted supporter.

01:10:35.000 But these red flag laws are questioning my support, because we just recently defeated

01:10:41.180 a bill here in North Carolina that was designed to work in conjunction with red flag laws,

01:10:44.900 where the sheriffs were complaining.

01:10:46.800 They didn't want to have to catalog whose firearms belonged what, where to store them,

01:10:49.980 and things like that.

01:10:51.060 Oh, wow.

01:10:51.200 They would just be able to confiscate your firearms, destroy them right off the bat.

01:10:55.440 You get no compensation for them, and then later, if it turns out that your ex lied to

01:10:59.800 you, about you, because in Connecticut, where they do have red flag laws, one-third of them

01:11:04.420 are overturned once a judge hears both sides of the story.

01:11:07.300 Wow.

01:11:08.020 But basically, this bill would have had your firearms confiscated, you get no money for

01:11:13.420 them, and you'd have to buy your collection.

01:11:15.920 Even if your rights were restored, you'd have to buy your collection all over again at whatever

01:11:19.560 the current market rates are.

01:11:20.920 And then if your gun is like some of mine, where your grandfather gave them to you, you

01:11:25.020 can't replace those, you're just out of luck.

01:11:27.520 And to me, it's not even about the compensation.

01:11:30.000 It's about, I'm not giving you my gun.

01:11:31.840 No.

01:11:33.000 It's unconstitutional.

01:11:34.340 No, you're not taking my gun.

01:11:35.440 Forget it.

01:11:35.900 It's most certainly not how a right works.

01:11:38.300 Right?

01:11:38.800 Exactly.

01:11:39.420 Rights don't work as the government gets to tell you when you're able to have them.

01:11:44.080 It's nuts.

01:11:44.840 That's not what it is.

01:11:45.860 And people will say, well, come on, this is America.

01:11:47.920 We get the Second Amendment.

01:11:48.960 It never happened.

01:11:49.500 It's already happened.

01:11:50.920 And as Chris said, it almost happened again in North Carolina.

01:11:55.280 It happened in New Orleans, Louisiana, right after Katrina.

01:11:59.680 The National Guard went door to door confiscating thousands and thousands of guns from people.

01:12:07.540 Thousands.

01:12:08.780 Most of them never got their guns back.

01:12:12.080 Now you might think, well, it was a national emergency.

01:12:14.240 It was a big emergency and they wanted to be safe.

01:12:17.820 It was unconstitutional what they did.

01:12:19.960 You can't just take people's guns.

01:12:22.220 But they did.

01:12:23.180 They did.

01:12:24.000 But they did.

01:12:24.520 And red flag laws.

01:12:25.820 I mean, a third is an incredible number, right?

01:12:28.120 And it's not incredibly surprising that there would be a third of these cases that would be overturned.

01:12:33.080 And if they do it like this, let's just say, even if it takes three months of court proceedings, who knows how long it is.

01:12:39.900 It's a problem.

01:12:40.840 And by the way, I will say there's a red flag law in Maryland.

01:12:44.440 And you know that Baltimore is the murder capital of the United States of America.

01:12:47.600 Does it do much?

01:12:48.560 It's fascinating.

01:12:49.180 I mean, it may help in a particular specific case, but still.

01:12:52.900 The murder rates in these cities with the most egregious gun control laws.

01:12:57.420 In states with egregious gun control laws.

01:12:59.620 Are always the places where there's the most gun murders.

01:13:03.160 How does that work?

01:13:04.520 It's weird.

01:13:05.340 Maybe the bad people don't care about your gun law.

01:13:08.900 How dare you accuse them of that?

01:13:11.020 I mean, wow.

01:13:13.280 Are you telling me if they'll murder somebody, they'll also break a gun law?

01:13:18.680 Huh.

01:13:19.040 I bet they speed on the way to the murder, too.

01:13:21.400 No.

01:13:21.800 No.

01:13:22.260 Come on.

01:13:22.600 That would be three laws that they violated.

01:13:26.000 I'm sure that you got some standards.

01:13:28.400 I heard there was one case where a guy sped to a murder with a gun that he was not supposed to have.

01:13:33.360 And in his other hand, he was holding a mattress tag that said, do not remove.

01:13:37.360 Oh, my.

01:13:37.800 It's true.

01:13:38.240 Oh, my gosh.

01:13:38.800 Well, I don't know if it's true.

01:13:39.380 It's urban legend.

01:13:40.040 Okay.

01:13:40.460 Look it up on Snopes.

01:13:41.520 Yeah.

01:13:41.760 I suppose he had an open container in the car as well.

01:13:46.020 It's a ridiculous story.

01:13:48.920 All right.

01:13:49.460 Let's go to Dan in Colorado.

01:13:50.720 Hey, Dan.

01:13:51.360 You're on the Glenn Beck program.

01:13:53.120 Good morning, guys.

01:13:53.760 How are you?

01:13:54.260 Doing well.

01:13:55.340 Good.

01:13:57.060 So Colorado just adopted red flag laws.

01:13:59.740 Oh, man.

01:14:00.900 I know.

01:14:01.280 It's horrible.

01:14:01.720 It's being fought.

01:14:03.540 Ideally, it'll be determined unconstitutional.

01:14:06.200 But the way it stands now, an anonymous person can file a charge against you.

01:14:10.860 The police have to act on it.

01:14:13.440 They come in, break down your door, take your guns.

01:14:17.180 And a couple of weeks later, you get to appear before a judge.

01:14:21.040 Jeez.

01:14:21.500 That is just nuts.

01:14:22.580 And then in theory, you would get them back, I guess?

01:14:24.860 Oh, no, no, no, no.

01:14:25.960 No?

01:14:26.380 The judge can determine to keep them for up to a year.

01:14:28.980 Oh, just the year.

01:14:30.720 Oh, okay.

01:14:31.380 Your own God-given right you're able to exercise it a good year or so for doing nothing wrong.

01:14:37.620 That sounds fair.

01:14:38.740 And then maybe you'll get it back.

01:14:40.460 Maybe.

01:14:41.560 Well, except that even if he determines that after a year you can get them back, federal

01:14:46.140 law then says because you've been adjudicated as unbalanced, you can't own guns anymore.

01:14:50.980 Oh, but this is going to work out well.

01:14:55.520 Now, look, a lot of Republicans also support this.

01:14:58.540 Obviously, everyone on the left supports it.

01:15:00.400 Donald Trump said he was going to entertain it.

01:15:02.080 He has not done it yet.

01:15:02.980 And I think calls like this are the best chance we have to not get these things at least enacted

01:15:07.700 in a way that is as damaging as some of these states have.

01:15:10.160 Might be a good idea, if you oppose this, to let the White House know that you oppose this.

01:15:13.980 Respectfully.

01:15:14.380 If you oppose this respectfully, very nicely, just let them know we don't want executive

01:15:20.440 action taken on gun control.

01:15:22.440 I think the motivation is good here, but these things tend to work out poorly for actual people

01:15:27.040 with their actual rights.

01:15:29.160 Yep.

01:15:29.540 It's not something I, it's not a road that, it's certainly not a road to get the base

01:15:33.580 on your side as you go into an important election.

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01:16:10.760 Yes, leisure or leisure.

01:16:11.900 Okay.

01:16:12.140 Either way, whatever suits you.

01:16:15.320 And I don't, so I'm hosting the TV show tonight.

01:16:18.760 We're going to be going through a bunch of the big arguments that you're going to be

01:16:20.940 seeing on your Facebook feeds.

01:16:22.520 You know, what, hey, you know, what gun claim is your annoying leftist friend popping up

01:16:28.800 there on Facebook or on Twitter?

01:16:31.560 Here's the truth behind it and how all that works.

01:16:34.360 So it's going to be on TV tonight.

01:16:35.660 Watch it on Glenn TV.

01:16:36.520 And then also we'll be on the News and White Matters tonight.

01:16:39.580 So lots of good stuff.

01:16:41.180 But I will say, as far as this radio show goes today, and it's a little out of the ordinary

01:16:46.880 to address it, and I guess on the air, but, you know, I'm a little disappointed in the

01:16:52.340 amount of people who have successfully called in using the number four to disagree.

01:16:59.180 I have too.

01:17:00.260 It's been underwhelming.

01:17:01.800 Underwhelming.

01:17:02.360 I mean, we pushed hard for this.

01:17:03.880 We pushed the engineering staff hard to make sure it was done today.

01:17:07.100 A lot of technology went into it.

01:17:08.940 Yeah.

01:17:09.560 You know, to get you to get through with just the number four, we wanted to make it as easy

01:17:15.300 as possible for people who disagree to get in.

01:17:18.500 And we weren't going to say this, but we had to bring in Elon Musk to do a lot of the

01:17:24.200 just, you know, brainstorming on how to do this.

01:17:26.760 Because normally when you pick up a phone, you have to dial a number, you click send.

01:17:29.720 Or if it's a home number, you would, you know, you'd have to pick up here the dial tone and

01:17:34.360 you'd press a button.

01:17:35.040 And if you just pressed the button and waited, it would give you like a, you know, that, hey,

01:17:38.780 your phone's off the hook sort of message.

01:17:41.320 Well, that's not going to happen if you disagree with us and you're doing it right.

01:17:45.620 And I think this is the thing that I keep coming back to, Pat, and I hate to say this

01:17:48.880 to the audience because I'm, I don't like to come to this conclusion, but I'm having

01:17:54.940 a difficult time finding another path than anything else, which is the people who disagree

01:17:59.900 with us are too dumb to figure this out.

01:18:03.380 Now, you didn't want to arrive at that conclusion though, right?

01:18:06.440 You didn't want to.

01:18:07.100 You just been led to it by the facts, by the evidence.

01:18:11.480 Here's the thing.

01:18:12.020 It, we, we said, Hey, look, the people who agree with us are really smart.

01:18:16.240 They're going to be able to figure out 888-727 back on their phones.

01:18:18.860 They're going to be able to do that.

01:18:19.900 But the people who don't agree with us, they might not necessarily be as intelligent.

01:18:24.680 So let's make it easy for them.

01:18:26.060 We'll have them press the number four.

01:18:28.400 Don't even have to click send.

01:18:29.940 Just put the phone to your ear and just wait for us to start talking to you.

01:18:34.160 That's easy, right?

01:18:35.400 Just wait.

01:18:36.200 Super easy.

01:18:36.940 Put the number four in your phone, put it up.

01:18:39.800 And we even said, if you really want to, you can put the number four on a piece of paper

01:18:43.620 and put it up to your ear.

01:18:44.900 And eventually, even that will work.

01:18:47.820 I mean, we had Elon Musk on this project.

01:18:49.900 Yeah.

01:18:50.280 So I just, like, I just have a difficult time figuring out what the possible problem could

01:18:57.680 be other than number one, people are, the people that disagree with us are just too stupid.

01:19:03.320 Or number two, they're just not waiting long enough.

01:19:05.560 So maybe there's a lot of people on right now, they have the number four up to their

01:19:09.480 ear, and they're just waiting, and we haven't picked them up yet.

01:19:12.220 So that's an acceptable thing.

01:19:14.120 If you're on hold on that line right now, you've clicked four.

01:19:18.280 The phone's up to your ear.

01:19:19.540 You haven't pressed send now.

01:19:20.940 It's just the number four is in your phone, and it's up to your ear.

01:19:23.560 We will be getting to you.

01:19:24.420 We will get to you.

01:19:25.340 Okay.

01:19:25.620 Before the end of the show.

01:19:26.100 And we can tell there's a lot of people, I guess, on hold, but the numbers are still underwhelming.

01:19:31.540 And so I just, I hope it's not that you're just stupid.

01:19:34.320 Me too.

01:19:34.620 Press four now and prove us wrong.

01:19:36.780 All right.

01:19:37.920 Otherwise, 888-727-BECK.

01:19:41.020 You know what's amazing is how committed this hideous psycho was in El Paso to doing what

01:19:49.620 he did.

01:19:50.200 He's actually from the Metroplex here in Dallas, a suburb called Allen.

01:19:54.880 Which is not, it's not Dallas, right?

01:19:57.080 Allen's pretty far.

01:19:58.720 Is it 45 minutes?

01:20:00.000 Yeah, probably from downtown.

01:20:01.700 Yeah.

01:20:02.220 But.

01:20:02.560 I don't know.

01:20:02.780 Maybe I'm from the Northeast and 45 minutes doesn't seem like a, like that's the difference

01:20:08.240 from Hartford to New Haven, basically.

01:20:10.140 That's true.

01:20:10.620 To me, it's like.

01:20:11.440 That's true.

01:20:11.900 But the Metroplex is so spread out.

01:20:14.040 It's so big that, you know, almost everything in Texas is part of it.

01:20:17.820 Anyway, the guy drives 10 hours across the state to El Paso, a place where he's more likely

01:20:25.340 to find a goodly number of people from Mexico.

01:20:29.240 Or Hispanics in general.

01:20:30.480 Or Hispanics in general.

01:20:31.180 85% or it's 80 or 85, something like that.

01:20:34.180 Percent Hispanic.

01:20:35.200 Yeah.

01:20:35.500 And so that has.

01:20:36.640 And there are people who come across the border every day and shop or go to school or whatever.

01:20:40.780 So he picked a border town intentionally.

01:20:42.920 When I first saw the location, my first thought was he's looking to commit the shooting and

01:20:47.860 then escape right across the border.

01:20:49.600 That was before we kind of saw the manifesto, which was very much focused on, on illegal

01:20:55.700 immigrants and Hispanics in general.

01:20:57.400 And also eliminating the possibility of, of human beings to exist on this planet because

01:21:04.080 global warming.

01:21:05.440 Yeah.

01:21:05.660 Well, yeah.

01:21:06.040 I don't think he mentions.

01:21:07.300 Maybe he does, but he, but it was, it was about plastic waste, consumer waste.

01:21:11.120 So let me run this theory by you.

01:21:12.320 Okay.

01:21:12.620 I was thinking about this yesterday and I think it's right, but I, I don't have evidence

01:21:19.420 of it yet, but let me run this by you.

01:21:21.520 So we all understand that this shooter went to this Mexican border town and with the intent

01:21:30.940 of shooting Hispanics and potentially Mexican nationals and other illegal immigrants and

01:21:36.000 things of that nature at this particular store.

01:21:39.480 And then, and I, and when that was like very easy, I think we all just kind of said, yeah,

01:21:43.180 okay, that makes sense.

01:21:44.240 We don't have proof of that per se, but I mean, it's obvious you read his manifesto.

01:21:48.720 He mentioned specifically targeting illegal immigrants and Mexicans, and then he goes

01:21:53.220 to a place on the border, an intentional choice by him to do that.

01:21:56.500 He could have, there's plenty of Walmarts and Allen, you know, he went down there for

01:22:00.940 a reason.

01:22:01.760 My argument here is that he also went to Walmart for a reason.

01:22:06.940 Look at the rest of his manifesto.

01:22:08.600 It's all about consumer products, overuse, plastic waste.

01:22:16.220 These corporations are ruining our country.

01:22:18.960 This is the left-wing argument, not only against capitalism in general, but about Walmart specifically.

01:22:25.320 I think he not only chose a border town, but also a Walmart specifically because it hits

01:22:31.440 both sides of his manifesto.

01:22:33.100 Remember, I mean, Walmart is one of the most vilified corporations in the world.

01:22:38.080 The left, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, that whole socialist left and union left movement have

01:22:46.920 vilified Walmart as if it was essentially Satan for the past two decades.

01:22:53.320 Yep.

01:22:53.780 No question.

01:22:54.320 And he followed that sort of, you know, theory to, you know, by the letter, basically.

01:23:00.800 I mean, he, that is his rant is basically the left-wing argument against Walmart.

01:23:05.000 I think he specifically chose Walmart, not only at the border, but that particular store

01:23:09.800 because it's, it's a symbol of all the consumerism and environmental complaints he had throughout

01:23:13.780 the manifesto.

01:23:14.500 Wouldn't be surprised at all.

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01:25:05.480 So, I find it interesting to think about the Neil deGrasse Tyson thing you did from last

01:25:10.460 hour.

01:25:10.640 Do you still have that up by any chance, that tweet from Tyson?

01:25:12.900 He's a scientist, of course, and he's usually in the news because he's yelling at some

01:25:17.520 conservative about global warming.

01:25:19.500 Or he has a really creepy story about Me Too.

01:25:24.320 This is one of them.

01:25:25.240 He doesn't get talked about as much because he's on the left.

01:25:28.720 As you're finding that tweet, he did this thing where he hit on this woman, supposedly,

01:25:35.420 reportedly, that she had a tattoo of the solar system on her shoulder.

01:25:41.220 She claims he put his hand, like, inside her dress.

01:25:47.840 Sorry.

01:25:49.020 We have a...

01:25:50.280 Marissa is our female producer in here and she's giving me the worst possible look as

01:25:54.160 I described this particular maneuver by Neil deGrasse Tyson.

01:25:57.560 So, Neil deGrasse Tyson, not a good-looking guy?

01:25:59.840 No, not a good-looking guy.

01:26:01.940 So, anyway, he goes up to this woman and she's got a tattoo of the solar system and the solar

01:26:06.840 system is on her shoulder, part of it.

01:26:09.040 And he apparently says to her, he puts his hand inside her dress and, you know, runs his

01:26:14.840 hand kind of the inside of her dress and says, I'm just looking for Pluto.

01:26:19.660 What a line.

01:26:21.260 This is the worst move I've ever heard in my life.

01:26:24.680 It's the creepiest thing.

01:26:26.340 Oh, man.

01:26:26.660 And it's so...

01:26:28.440 There's only one word for it.

01:26:29.820 It's nerdy.

01:26:30.900 Like, it's the most nerdy approach.

01:26:34.420 Only a complete loser attempts this, right?

01:26:37.280 So, this goes through...

01:26:38.280 This is only one of several accusations against him.

01:26:40.980 So, they go through this, you know, big situation and they ask him, they say, okay, this is what

01:26:45.960 this woman says you did.

01:26:47.740 Like, you need to answer for that.

01:26:49.240 And his answer was, well, it does sound like something I would do.

01:26:55.760 What?

01:26:56.680 This is his excuse.

01:26:58.320 It sounds like something I would do?

01:26:59.600 It sounds like something I would do.

01:27:00.680 As a person interested in the cosmos, I was, of course, very interested in the demotion of

01:27:05.880 Pluto as a planet and wanted to see if people were getting tattoos, whether they would include

01:27:10.220 Pluto or not.

01:27:10.880 So, it does sound like something that I would do.

01:27:13.040 That is unbelievable.

01:27:13.680 That was his excuse.

01:27:14.640 And how long ago did this supposedly happen?

01:27:16.740 I don't...

01:27:17.180 I think a few years ago.

01:27:18.140 And he was cleared.

01:27:20.680 Wow.

01:27:21.820 No way.

01:27:22.440 He was cleared.

01:27:23.640 He's off now.

01:27:24.320 He's totally fine.

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01:28:40.660 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

01:28:53.900 Stu, you mentioned the tweet from Neil deGrasse Tyson.

01:28:58.200 It was this.

01:29:00.240 In the past 48 hours, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

01:29:04.460 On average, across any 48 hours, we also lose 500 to medical errors, 300 to the flu, 250 to suicide, 200 to car accidents, and 40 to homicide via handgun.

01:29:19.560 Often, our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.

01:29:24.980 He got bludgeoned for that.

01:29:27.160 Right.

01:29:27.560 Unlike his Pluto move, which was apparently okay.

01:29:31.240 That is something he got in trouble for.

01:29:34.860 And, of course, the odd thing is this is a moment of truth here for Neil deGrasse Tyson.

01:29:39.220 He's telling you the truth.

01:29:40.240 These numbers are all accurate.

01:29:42.980 And it is a really important thing and something that really screws up our society.

01:29:47.360 We happen to focus on these two.

01:29:50.700 These two mass shootings will dominate the news coverage for how long?

01:29:54.360 When, like, objectively, a much more serious problem than mass shootings, which are a serious problem, but a much more serious problem than mass shootings, are the violence in our inner cities when it comes to gang violence, for example.

01:30:09.140 And we just kind of like, well, we can't really do anything about that.

01:30:12.060 I guess that's our idea.

01:30:13.140 And we can do something about this.

01:30:14.580 We can ban assault weapons, which, of course, we've already showed you that we already did it for 10 years.

01:30:20.520 It did nothing.

01:30:21.280 It did not improve the murder rates at all.

01:30:23.560 So, you know, and this goes back to a lot of our political debates.

01:30:26.760 You know, Donald Trump is continually mocked because he brings up things like MS-13.

01:30:30.760 MS-13.

01:30:31.900 Come on, MS-13.

01:30:33.140 How can you possibly?

01:30:34.580 Well, MS-13 murders over four times as many people that get murdered in school shootings.

01:30:39.240 So, like, it's a much larger problem to our society than school shootings.

01:30:45.640 And you might say, well, I, and I don't say this, but you might say, well, I care a lot more about, you know, the white suburban children than I do about those Hispanics in inner cities.

01:30:58.500 I guess that's your argument for not caring because most of the people MS-13 kills are Hispanics in inner cities.

01:31:03.680 So, I guess you don't care about those people.

01:31:05.680 You only care about these suburban kids.

01:31:08.160 Now, look, I, it's a massive problem.

01:31:10.260 And I think gang violence is the type of thing where you, most people sort of degrade those numbers because they think, well, they're in gangs and, you know, they're killing each other.

01:31:18.640 But they're not all in gangs, first of all.

01:31:20.360 A lot of people are innocent bystanders in poor communities that have nothing to be, no way to be able to defend themselves a lot of times because they're law-abiding citizens living in those communities.

01:31:30.080 And the city has passed draconian gun laws, so they can't get guns even if they can afford them to protect themselves.

01:31:37.280 So, it's a big problem.

01:31:38.760 But I think, like, one of the things we do when we go through a period of mass shootings like this is we say, how do we stop mass shootings?

01:31:48.640 What is our goal?

01:31:50.020 It's to stop mass shootings.

01:31:51.760 Well, that's, that's the wrong goal, right?

01:31:55.240 The goal should be keeping people alive, okay?

01:31:59.460 How do we keep more people alive?

01:32:01.700 And the mass shooting thing is a very difficult problem to solve, as we've talked about today.

01:32:07.020 Some of these people have no red flags.

01:32:10.300 Some of these people have, have, had lived, you know, we look at the guy, you know, the guy in Vegas.

01:32:16.020 We still have no freaking idea why he even did it.

01:32:19.360 Right.

01:32:19.520 Let alone a way we could have stopped it in advance.

01:32:22.040 We have absolutely no idea whatsoever.

01:32:24.760 It didn't seem to even be fame-seeking.

01:32:27.020 It just seems to be a guy who wanted to kill a bunch of people for no particular reason.

01:32:31.100 And so, it's very difficult to stop these things in advance.

01:32:35.220 And what we do is jump immediately to the most politically difficult things to accomplish.

01:32:45.880 So, the left says this and they say, okay, well, what we want to do is ban certain types of guns.

01:32:49.840 We want to go up against the other half of the country who disagrees with that.

01:32:53.980 Instead of just trying to find ways that, like, generally people agree and can be much more productive.

01:32:57.840 To give you an example, 40,000 people a year die in car accidents.

01:33:04.280 40,000 people a year.

01:33:07.060 4.5 million people a year are seriously injured in car accidents in this country.

01:33:14.120 I mean, that's a freaking ton.

01:33:15.720 4.5 million injuries?

01:33:18.360 It's amazing.

01:33:18.740 I mean, that is like, you're, there's a, what, that's, you know, several percent of the population every year.

01:33:28.180 Okay?

01:33:29.400 Now, there, think about the automated cars issue, for example.

01:33:33.620 The automated car, the studies they've done on this, they believe that they could reduce that number by 94% when fully implemented.

01:33:39.780 Now, I love driving my car.

01:33:41.380 There's a good part of me that loves driving my car.

01:33:42.820 There's also a part of me that wouldn't mind having a freaking automated car because then I can, like, do work and fall asleep and watch TV.

01:33:47.480 So, like, I, but there's no massive political movement against that technology.

01:33:54.400 People are a little skeptical about it.

01:33:56.460 They're nervous it might not work.

01:33:58.220 But generally speaking, we get over these humps pretty quickly.

01:34:01.700 Look what we did with Uber.

01:34:03.000 I mean, we were like, ah, I would never get in a stranger's car.

01:34:05.320 Wait, they'll just come to my house and I don't have to, oh, okay, yeah, I'm in.

01:34:08.420 Like, that happened in, like, a year.

01:34:10.100 Right?

01:34:10.920 Yeah.

01:34:11.100 So, these things happen pretty quickly.

01:34:12.160 Advancing that technology could save 37,000 lives, 38,000 lives a year and 4 million plus injuries every single year without real political opposition.

01:34:27.160 Right?

01:34:27.280 There's not, like, one party who's against it and one party's for it.

01:34:30.440 And you could save all of these lives.

01:34:32.140 And instead, what we're going to do is fight really hard about trying to save the mass shooting death total, which probably is going to be, I mean, I think it comes out to about 30.

01:34:46.100 I know school shootings, I think, is something like 30 people a year die in school shootings, you know, average over a long period of time.

01:34:53.540 When it comes to mass shootings, the number's a little higher because you're probably taking some of the school shootings, some of the others.

01:34:59.520 But, I mean, you're talking about a few, you know, to put it in a really awful way, it's a few people per week, probably, that die in the United States due to mass shootings.

01:35:10.100 And we can, if we pass, let's say, an assault weapons ban, we'll see almost no difference in that number whatsoever.

01:35:18.560 Instead, we could try to tackle.

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01:36:36.680 Also joined by Jeffy.

01:36:39.720 Have we gotten some 4 calls today?

01:36:42.040 A surprisingly small amount have called so far.

01:36:44.760 I don't know if they're just not used to it or if they don't trust us.

01:36:47.220 We're not going to be mad at you when you call 4.

01:36:49.120 It will be fine.

01:36:50.180 We've made it easy for you to get to us.

01:36:52.020 Exactly.

01:36:52.520 One number.

01:36:52.860 And it cost us a lot of time and effort, and we'd just appreciate it if those who disagree would dial the number 4 so we could talk to them.

01:36:59.280 We hadn't really entertained this, but is it possible that people just don't disagree with us?

01:37:02.960 It is possible.

01:37:03.660 All of our points are perfect and airtight.

01:37:04.620 And they don't want to embarrass themselves by calling the number 4 and then just get pulled apart.

01:37:11.980 I did see Jeffy sitting outside the office today with the number 4 against his head.

01:37:16.660 He just wrote it on the side of his face.

01:37:18.180 Especially after your little red flag law analogy where you said that the possible, you know, maybe you, Stu, Pat, and Glenn were to, you know, I don't know, red flag me.

01:37:31.260 Yeah, we did discuss this possibility.

01:37:33.580 And then maybe I would, you know, maybe I would lose my weapons for only 6 days.

01:37:37.400 Or maybe 6 months.

01:37:39.000 Or 6 years.

01:37:40.120 But see, the flaw to that is if I prove myself okay to the judge, within 6 days I get my weapons back, then how do you feel?

01:37:47.700 Exactly.

01:37:48.400 This does not seem like a thing you want to try.

01:37:50.760 And plus, I guess they said it was, it's anonymous though, too.

01:37:55.260 So you don't even know who did it to you.

01:37:57.300 Like, just some rando person.

01:37:59.160 I mean, think about public figures.

01:38:01.180 Yeah.

01:38:01.400 How easily that would be, you know, people could do that in theory to them.

01:38:04.840 I mean, there's a lot of problems with that.

01:38:07.220 I understand there's a lot of problems not doing it, too.

01:38:09.520 So it's not a crazy idea.

01:38:12.480 I mean, smart people have advocated for it.

01:38:14.640 And, you know, conservatives.

01:38:16.220 But it's, man, it makes me really freaking nervous that the state is going to be able to take your guns away.

01:38:22.080 Because some rando who doesn't have to identify themselves says you shouldn't have them.

01:38:26.560 That's not a good thing at all.

01:38:27.860 No, that's not a good thing at all.

01:38:28.880 There's a formula issue there, I think.

01:38:30.500 And I know you were talking about Neil deGrasse Tyson and his tweet that he, you know, had to end up apologizing for, which was unbelievable that he ended up apologizing for it.

01:38:39.200 But I know he went down the list of, you know, medical errors and flu and suicide and car accidents and just, you know, handgun homicides.

01:38:46.620 But it must have slipped his mind to put in abortion.

01:38:50.280 Right.

01:38:50.880 Because that wasn't on the list.

01:38:52.040 I didn't see that either.

01:38:52.960 Yeah, because that's a bigger number than you might think.

01:38:56.720 The lowest number is handgun homicide, which was 40.

01:39:00.080 So what's abortion?

01:39:00.940 It's a little bit more than that.

01:39:02.180 Really?

01:39:02.600 Yeah, just a tad.

01:39:04.400 In any 48-hour period of time, there are...

01:39:07.980 It can't be more than 500 medical errors.

01:39:10.460 Yeah, a teeny bit more.

01:39:12.860 It's about 12 times more than the 500.

01:39:15.440 It's 6,000 abortions in two days.

01:39:18.000 Now, we should point out...

01:39:18.920 6,000.

01:39:19.400 Disgusting.

01:39:20.040 Oh, my gosh.

01:39:20.600 That's only in the United States, of course.

01:39:22.580 Yes.

01:39:23.140 If you want to go globally, 138,868 every two days.

01:39:28.060 Which is why we use the stat a lot, that 60 million babies have been killed since 1973

01:39:35.140 in this country.

01:39:36.260 The figure worldwide is over a billion.

01:39:39.820 1.2 billion.

01:39:41.840 Wow.

01:39:42.360 And that is, like, revolting.

01:39:43.940 It's so on your stomach.

01:39:45.480 One-seventh of the current world's population has been aborted since 1973.

01:39:50.360 And how many are in the world now?

01:39:53.360 Is it seven?

01:39:54.000 Seven billion.

01:39:54.440 Seven, so it'll be one-sixth.

01:39:55.940 If it's 1.2, we're talking one-sixth of the population.

01:39:59.800 That is terrifying.

01:40:01.140 So far, just this year, just this year, 25 million plus have been aborted worldwide just

01:40:10.360 this year.

01:40:11.400 And that is a...

01:40:12.140 Think of that.

01:40:13.100 But you know what?

01:40:14.640 Neil, to be fair, Neil did say lives.

01:40:18.780 And we don't know if these were lives.

01:40:20.020 Could be broccoli.

01:40:21.180 That's true.

01:40:21.440 You have to consider it lives.

01:40:22.880 It could be Volkswagen parts.

01:40:25.660 Those certainly aren't alive.

01:40:27.100 No, no, no.

01:40:27.640 You know?

01:40:28.000 No.

01:40:28.300 Who knows what's in there?

01:40:29.240 What if you give birth to kitchen utensils?

01:40:31.820 Right.

01:40:32.300 Well, you can't call that life.

01:40:34.620 No, that's not life.

01:40:35.920 Does it ever become life?

01:40:37.440 How many women?

01:40:38.960 You know, you think you're pregnant and then an appliance comes out.

01:40:42.380 I mean...

01:40:43.340 A toaster oven.

01:40:44.020 A toaster oven, for instance.

01:40:45.440 In the box.

01:40:46.220 All right.

01:40:47.300 Wow.

01:40:48.660 It's rough.

01:40:49.520 It's rough.

01:40:50.320 It is.

01:40:50.680 You know, you can concern yourself with abortion or handgun violence.

01:40:55.860 But really, what we need to be concerned with is death by mosquito.

01:41:00.380 Okay?

01:41:00.960 Right now, there are 110 trillion mosquitoes stalking the world.

01:41:04.940 Did you know that?

01:41:05.580 110 trillion?

01:41:06.800 110 trillion mosquitoes stalking the world.

01:41:08.200 How do they know that?

01:41:09.240 Have they counted?

01:41:10.000 Yes, everyone.

01:41:10.720 They've counted the mosquitoes.

01:41:11.620 They've counted everyone.

01:41:12.020 Yeah, they've got a special mosquito counter.

01:41:13.540 We're doing a mosquito census right now.

01:41:15.640 They claim that, on average, 2 million humans die because of mosquito bites every year.

01:41:20.980 Now, last year, they said it went down a little bit to like 850,000.

01:41:24.460 West Nile, malaria.

01:41:25.860 You can get all kinds of bad diseases from them.

01:41:28.980 Right.

01:41:29.000 Zika.

01:41:29.040 Bad diseases from them.

01:41:30.760 They're top of the list of what's killing people.

01:41:34.580 It's amazing.

01:41:35.100 I mean, this is why the global warming thing is so frustrating.

01:41:39.440 I mean, if you put up mosquito nets, mosquito nets cost you absolutely nothing and would

01:41:46.940 probably prevent 90% of these malaria deaths every year.

01:41:51.540 Oh, yeah.

01:41:52.320 And you could save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives.

01:41:56.140 Or we can all try to reverse civilization and try to control the temperature.

01:42:01.880 Yeah.

01:42:02.320 That's a great one.

01:42:03.440 Yeah.

01:42:03.640 That one will work out well.

01:42:05.100 Here's another thought.

01:42:07.040 Bug spray.

01:42:08.340 You know, DDT.

01:42:09.480 Oh, what?

01:42:10.160 Let's kill the mosquitoes.

01:42:12.040 But no.

01:42:12.360 No, you can't do that.

01:42:13.560 Because DDT was once banned in the United States.

01:42:17.480 There's a giant hole in the ozone because of that.

01:42:19.500 Had to ban it in Africa, too.

01:42:20.600 Otherwise, it's discriminatory and racist that we didn't ban it there.

01:42:23.920 Which a lot of the people who died were like, I think I'd rather be the victim of that

01:42:27.260 type of racism.

01:42:29.100 Uh-huh.

01:42:30.660 It's not real.

01:42:31.920 It's nuts.

01:42:32.300 If you were asked, do you think the food that you could deliver, and I know, Stu, you use

01:42:37.260 this, you know, the food delivery apps quite often here.

01:42:39.980 Oh, yeah.

01:42:40.620 If you were asked, do you think that your driver may, you know, dip into your food a

01:42:46.340 little bit, take a bite before he gets it to you?

01:42:48.440 I had not thought of that, though.

01:42:50.860 I will say, when I'm the Uber driver for my family, oh, some of those fries were disappearing

01:42:56.120 for sure.

01:42:56.820 So they surveyed 2015 America.

01:42:59.400 This is the American survey.

01:43:00.700 All these people identified as having worked as a deliverer for at least one food delivery

01:43:05.300 app.

01:43:06.040 The customers all think, about 20% say, yeah, the driver's probably eating some of my food.

01:43:10.880 Oh, no.

01:43:11.280 All right.

01:43:11.560 Oh, no.

01:43:12.120 The drivers, it's about 28% of the delivery drivers are dipping into the food.

01:43:17.460 They're just nibbling on the, nibbling on the food.

01:43:19.440 It's not bad.

01:43:19.740 Now, if you were a driver, the fries, you know, nobody's going to notice, right?

01:43:23.560 You definitely take a few fries.

01:43:24.700 The fries are probably okay.

01:43:26.200 Like, if I could just get away with, like, look, they're going to eat some of my fries.

01:43:28.720 Maybe I'll order an extra order of fries and market driver.

01:43:32.520 And just let that, you can have that order of fries.

01:43:35.040 That's a pretty good idea.

01:43:35.780 Don't dip it in the other order of fries.

01:43:37.260 That's a pretty good idea.

01:43:38.080 So, they just couldn't, 54%, we just couldn't resist the smell.

01:43:43.280 54% of the 28%.

01:43:44.700 We just couldn't, 54% couldn't, of the 28%.

01:43:47.320 Oh, okay.

01:43:47.900 We just couldn't resist the smell.

01:43:49.380 Do you believe it's only 28%?

01:43:50.900 That's a lot of people not admitting to what they're doing.

01:43:52.780 I think so, too.

01:43:53.540 Yeah, 28%.

01:43:54.260 I think so, too.

01:43:54.780 Because I'd never thought of this before, but you're right.

01:43:57.200 It does, it does sort of.

01:43:58.920 Now, consumers, they're saying here, according to this, 85% of consumers are now saying that

01:44:02.800 restaurants should employ tamper, you know, tamper evident labels.

01:44:06.340 Do we need more, I mean, that's.

01:44:08.860 I mean, it's probably a good idea if you're a restaurant, it shouldn't come from the government,

01:44:11.820 but it's probably a good idea if you're a restaurant to have something on there that

01:44:15.800 people can't steal stuff out of.

01:44:17.180 But if I'm a driver, don't I just snag a couple extra tamper evident stickers and after

01:44:23.060 I tamper and I put the real one back on?

01:44:25.980 I mean, not everyone's a criminal mastermind, Jeffy.

01:44:29.480 Jeffy's always trying to figure out a way to scam the system.

01:44:32.880 I, it does seem like, you know, the other thing is like, you just, like, if there's

01:44:37.940 like a pasta, you just, you just have a fork in the car all the time.

01:44:40.380 Right.

01:44:40.580 You just go up in there and have a couple bites of each, each thing that rolls on through.

01:44:43.760 You're never going to pay for food in your life.

01:44:45.360 It would be tempting with that smell permeating your car every, every time you're making a

01:44:49.960 delivery.

01:44:50.100 Sooner or later, it's got to get old, though, right?

01:44:52.000 But I mean, on delivery one, you're watching what you do on delivery 394.

01:44:58.060 If you're hungry, you're taking a bite right now.

01:45:00.540 You're not going to take a bite of a sandwich, right?

01:45:02.340 You might just take the sandwich, though.

01:45:04.720 Right.

01:45:04.900 I mean, the orders are wrong.

01:45:05.900 They're talking about in the survey.

01:45:08.800 They talk about food that's wrong, food that's cold, food that's not cooked, delivering, you

01:45:13.200 know, under under, it's all under 20 percent.

01:45:15.280 But, you know, they end up, you know, they don't knock at the door when they bring you the

01:45:18.860 food, that kind of thing, you know, if you're delivering it to the house.

01:45:21.380 But they talk about, you know, it being cold and not being admitted to.

01:45:25.920 They bring it to the house and then don't knock or ring?

01:45:28.300 Yeah, just set it in front of the door.

01:45:29.420 Leave.

01:45:30.140 What?

01:45:31.560 Your food's there.

01:45:32.460 That's weird.

01:45:32.840 But if you, you know, if you have the app, right, you should, you're following the food.

01:45:35.940 It's telling you that your food, where your food is, right?

01:45:38.200 Most apps tell you where your food is.

01:45:39.940 So you should know.

01:45:40.780 You should know.

01:45:41.520 I shouldn't have to tell you that it's at your front door.

01:45:44.760 That's amazing.

01:45:45.540 It does seem like a little silly.

01:45:46.720 Well, you could say.

01:45:47.340 You could just say, I did knock and no one came.

01:45:49.960 Right.

01:45:50.300 So I just left it by the door.

01:45:51.580 Right.

01:45:52.080 I mean.

01:45:52.420 I'm sure that's what they do.

01:45:53.860 That's interesting.

01:45:54.740 I had not thought of that and it's a little creepy.

01:45:57.140 And I know.

01:45:57.740 What a surprise.

01:45:58.540 Jeffy creeped me out in this segment.

01:46:00.540 That's a stunning development.

01:46:03.600 And also a good news coming from San Francisco airport.

01:46:07.520 Single use plastic water bottles are going to be banned as of the 20th of this month.

01:46:11.360 So you don't have to worry about plastic bottles tearing up the environment anymore.

01:46:15.360 Thanks to the San Francisco International Airport.

01:46:17.100 I have been so worried about that.

01:46:19.300 Thank you.

01:46:19.660 I woke up in a cold sweat at 1.30 this morning.

01:46:22.940 Thank you.

01:46:23.400 Oh my gosh.

01:46:24.220 What about the single use plastic bottles in San Francisco?

01:46:27.780 And now it's amazing that you have eased my mind on that.

01:46:30.280 Well listen, Rachel McCaffrey, the director of Travel Without Plastic.

01:46:35.000 Hey, this is a move that will be welcomed by an increasing number of travelers.

01:46:38.840 Will it?

01:46:39.940 Will it?

01:46:41.220 But it's concerned about the impact of plastic having on the environment.

01:46:45.420 So, you know, I mean, there's the plastic island out there in the middle of the ocean.

01:46:51.060 Oh yeah, the great Pacific garbage patch.

01:46:54.740 I just heard it the other day.

01:46:56.000 I think it was on CNN.

01:46:56.960 And then another person saying, you know what, there's this big...

01:46:59.880 No, it's just a fact now.

01:47:02.420 It's a fact.

01:47:03.080 It's a fact that doesn't exist.

01:47:05.020 I'm in the garbage the size of Texas floating around in the Pacific.

01:47:07.340 It's impossible.

01:47:07.880 This does not exist.

01:47:09.540 It's impossible to exist.

01:47:10.840 It's amazing.

01:47:11.740 It's impossible.

01:47:12.300 I mean, they could see my license plate from space.

01:47:14.540 We have not seen any proof of this island anywhere.

01:47:16.960 And by the way, if you actually read about it, they tell you it doesn't exist.

01:47:21.220 It's just an idea of there's that much garbage.

01:47:23.520 If it was all in one place, that's the size of it.

01:47:25.880 Yeah.

01:47:26.280 Like that is a totally different thing.

01:47:27.920 And so many people, I guarantee, even in this audience, there are people right now going,

01:47:33.220 wait, that doesn't exist?

01:47:34.060 That's not a real thing?

01:47:35.080 No, it's not a real thing.

01:47:35.620 Because even I, half of my career has been talking about environmental claims that are BS.

01:47:43.420 Right.

01:47:43.680 And even I believed that there is something in the middle, in the ocean, because I was

01:47:47.720 told it in like, when I was a child.

01:47:49.740 And then I remember here, I was listening to Pat Gray Unleashed one day, and I remember

01:47:52.520 you talking about it.

01:47:53.200 I'm like, wait a minute.

01:47:54.900 That's not even like a...

01:47:56.200 It's not a thing.

01:47:57.060 I thought, well, maybe it's exaggerated or, you know, but I'm like, I had never have seen

01:48:01.840 a picture of it.

01:48:03.000 Right.

01:48:03.240 And after you talked about it, I remember going online, like, and they just straight out say,

01:48:07.620 no, of course there's no island of garbage in the ocean.

01:48:10.920 That's not how this works.

01:48:12.060 Yeah.

01:48:12.200 One of the first to dispute the fact that it existed and to get rid of this myth was

01:48:20.080 Salon.

01:48:21.140 I mean, that's as left wing as you get.

01:48:23.520 Salon.com.

01:48:24.340 Come on.

01:48:24.780 That's not a conservative site.

01:48:26.440 Not at all.

01:48:27.000 Even they did some research into this and said, yeah, it doesn't exist.

01:48:30.940 I know it helps to say that because of the environmental thing.

01:48:34.580 It gets people going.

01:48:35.700 It's just not true.

01:48:36.620 It's not true.

01:48:37.240 It's just not true.

01:48:37.760 But, you know, we have the we have the water bottles being banned at the airport, but they're

01:48:41.160 still allowing sodas.

01:48:43.240 You're going to end up having to bring an empty container through TSA to fill up with

01:48:47.760 their, you know, their filtered water.

01:48:49.300 I do like that they're incentivizing soda drinking, though.

01:48:52.440 That I'm that I'm for.

01:48:53.460 They are doing that.

01:48:54.300 Did you see, too, that the McDonald's straw thing?

01:48:56.640 I think we may have talked about this.

01:48:57.740 Yes.

01:48:58.580 They had they're like the one people that apparently had nailed the paper straw and people were like,

01:49:03.900 you know, this is basically like a plastic straw.

01:49:05.460 It's not disintegrating in my mouth.

01:49:06.600 It's actually working.

01:49:07.320 And they had it.

01:49:08.880 And then they found out later, yeah, they can't recycle it.

01:49:11.260 So the all the benefits from the paper straw at McDonald's, they went away.

01:49:15.960 You can't even.

01:49:16.880 It doesn't even recycle.

01:49:18.300 It'd be better just to use the plastic.

01:49:20.240 Yes.

01:49:20.660 And that is the case every single time.

01:49:24.440 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

01:49:28.600 Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

01:49:31.580 Joined by Jeffy.

01:49:34.080 To the fact.

01:49:35.440 Should we check out the podcast?

01:49:36.780 Is that what you're about?

01:49:37.700 You can you can check out the podcast.

01:49:40.280 It uploads daily and you can subscribe and download daily.

01:49:43.880 This is a chewing the fat.

01:49:46.300 OK, if I politely decline.

01:49:49.540 No, you don't have to listen.

01:49:51.760 You just have to download.

01:49:52.420 I was surprised.

01:49:55.120 A couple of articles on CNN.

01:49:57.220 The Dayton shooter had an extreme left Twitter feed.

01:50:01.240 Wow.

01:50:01.780 Yeah, that is the title of the story at CNN dot com.

01:50:05.260 Now, I don't know if they're just saying just his Twitter feed was left and he was actually like a right wing nut job.

01:50:10.500 He just kept tweeting left wing things on Twitter.

01:50:12.520 Maybe that's what they were saying.

01:50:14.080 This one I thought was interesting, though.

01:50:15.100 They did a fact check on the claim would stronger background checks have stopped El Paso and Dayton.

01:50:20.700 And you kind of assume that CNN would come to the conclusion.

01:50:23.860 Of course, they would.

01:50:24.540 Yeah, of course.

01:50:25.100 Common sense measures.

01:50:26.260 However, let me throw a little mix, a little M. Night Shyamalan twist here to you.

01:50:30.460 What if President Trump is saying he supports them?

01:50:33.740 He's supporting background checks.

01:50:35.380 So then what do you do?

01:50:38.460 Then you're in trouble.

01:50:39.440 Then you're in trouble.

01:50:40.360 So what's strengthening or expanding?

01:50:42.060 By the way, we already have background checks.

01:50:44.120 What?

01:50:44.660 Yeah, we already have background checks.

01:50:45.900 No, no, no.

01:50:46.340 Not if you.

01:50:47.080 In virtually every case.

01:50:48.020 Not the common sense background checks.

01:50:49.200 Yeah, the common sense background check where they do an FBI background check.

01:50:52.700 It's only a background check in the way that it's a check on your background.

01:50:58.680 Now, are they going to check your background, though?

01:51:00.380 Is it that expensive?

01:51:01.640 They will check on the things that you've done back then, you know, in your past.

01:51:06.500 In your past.

01:51:07.140 By the way, one of the exceptions when they say, I want universal background checks, one

01:51:10.080 of the things they're talking about is right now, it's supposed to be an instant check

01:51:14.360 on your background.

01:51:15.720 Okay.

01:51:16.120 Let's just say the system's down, though.

01:51:18.120 Okay.

01:51:18.300 They have a window of three days to be able to decide, okay, well, we have to hold it

01:51:23.260 off for three days because it's not working.

01:51:24.700 Okay.

01:51:25.440 A universal background check, of course, would check all of these transactions.

01:51:28.780 So if the system was down, you just wait for it.

01:51:30.960 It'll come back up.

01:51:32.040 And then when it comes back up, we'll check you.

01:51:34.040 So I guess if the system went down for a month or two or 10 or 20 years, oopsies.

01:51:41.560 You're just going to have to wait.

01:51:43.320 We're trying really hard to get it back up.

01:51:45.240 Universal.

01:51:45.760 You guys wanted a universal, so it'll be universal.

01:51:47.660 Really, that happened all the time under Clinton.

01:51:49.260 Yeah, that was very common.

01:51:51.040 By the way, they say, would strengthening or expanding background checks have prevented

01:51:54.000 the alleged shooters from purchasing firearms?

01:51:56.240 The fact's first explanation, doubtful.

01:52:00.520 There's no indication that the shooting in Dayton would have been prevented by the background

01:52:05.120 check.

01:52:05.620 El Paso, he purchased his firearm legally.

01:52:09.600 There is no evidence that he had criminal history and a background check would have caught

01:52:12.460 it.

01:52:13.320 So now that Trump's supporting the background checks, we can all say that finally admit

01:52:17.620 that none of them would work.

01:52:24.080 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

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