On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by the chairman of the FCC, Brendan Carr, and Stephen Shaw to discuss the population collapse that is happening all over the world, and why it matters. Plus, he talks about Reese's Peanut Butter Cups and Prince Andrew.
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00:06:35.100I mean, really, you should look up, you should look up inbreeding and it should have their pictures there.
00:06:43.140I mean, this is what happens when you are so inbred, uh, that you just kind of, you know, you start falling apart and you look insane and you're probably a little retarded.
00:06:51.380And then you start thinking, maybe I could get away with having sex with kids.
00:06:54.960Anyway, um, he's, you know, still under scrutiny for, uh, his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, but notice nobody is going to jail for actually having sex with children.
00:07:19.940Well, I think having sex with underage kids is wrongdoing, but that again is not the wrongdoing.
00:07:26.800He apparently, uh, was, uh, had some sort of misconduct with, um, with Jeffrey Epstein on possibly, is it secrets again?
00:07:42.600Cause that's why the UK ambassador is in trouble because he was, he was releasing secrets to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:07:51.960Um, and then the prime minister is in trouble because he knew that, uh, the UN, uh, the U, the UK ambassador to the United States was still friendly with Epstein.
00:08:04.560And it came up in the security search and he said, ah, just, just dismiss it.
00:08:10.000And then he later said, no, I didn't know anything about that.
00:08:16.820So nobody's going to jail at all for any of this, uh, stuff.
00:08:21.060And there's a new poll out that most Americans say, uh, that in fact, seven out of 10, 69% of Americans, this is a really quite large, believe their views were captured very well or extremely well in the statement that, um,
00:08:42.960um, the way the hand, the files have been handled with convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein show that the wealthy and powerful people are rarely held, held accountable.
00:08:57.100When you have 70% of the population of the United States of America saying, if you're powerful or you're wealthy, you get away with anything, including raping children.
00:09:07.20017% of the respondents believe the statement aligns with their views somewhat well.
00:09:31.84053% of respondents strongly agree that the files have lowered my trust in political and business leaders, along with 24% who say somewhat agree with it.
00:25:23.220Um, let's see, nearly six in 10 Americans, but it's not a lot of people.
00:25:26.38059% disagree with president Trump that Republicans should take over the voting in 15 states in order to nationalize the 2026 midterm elections.
00:35:55.500And either you don't understand Senate history, which is unacceptable, or you do understand it and you're choosing comfort over confrontation.
00:37:56.440This is truly about whether the Republican Party still believes it's an instrument of constitutional government or just a speed bump in front of progressive expansion.
00:38:07.500Trump has done all of your heavy lifting.
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00:43:14.420You know, I don't get anything from reading acts or anything else, you know, reading comments, because I don't know who those people are.
00:43:20.540But being able to read every day and hear the comments during the show helps me so much.
00:43:25.180We have something I'm going to announce here in about five or six minutes that I've never heard a national radio program or podcast ever do, ever.
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00:48:41.600I mean, imagine how different you would be if you had gone to that Ivy League education.
00:48:48.800Maybe it would have been different for you because, I mean, you talk about it in Manufacturing Delusion.
00:48:53.540You know the tricks of indoctrination, so maybe it would have been different from you.
00:48:59.160Yeah, I would hope that I could have continued to stay sane.
00:49:02.600I mean, look, the basis of this book, the basic idea, it comes out of the madness of COVID, but it's not a COVID book.
00:49:10.940It's, okay, everybody, we know we read about these other places.
00:49:14.380We're familiar with mind control in the Soviet Union, with the culture revolution in Maoist China
00:49:22.340and how insane that got, with the reality of North Korea today.
00:49:27.340We know that that all exists and that all has happened.
00:49:29.680But how is it that in this country, we basically collectively, not all of us, but as a country, went insane during COVID?
00:49:37.380And I was like, well, if it's possible on that, you know, it's possible on other things, too.
00:49:41.780And there's actually smaller bouts of politicized insanity, BLM, climate change, the gender madness.
00:49:50.740I mean, I have a whole chapter, Glenn, and you would love this, but legitimately, I'm sure people say, Glenn, you will actually love this book.
00:49:57.520I go back into the writings of a World War II Dutch psychiatrist named Dr. Juist Mirlu, and he coined the term menticide.
00:50:05.300He wrote a book called Rape of the Mind.
00:50:07.140He sat down with Nazis, Nazi prisoners of war to say, how did you do this, basically?
00:50:13.440How did you make a whole country go insane?
00:50:16.980And he approached this as a psychiatrist, as a practitioner, and came up with this framework.
00:50:21.840Well, the framework, Glenn, is applicable to some of the brainwashing, some of the things we see going on here in America today.
00:50:28.840And so that's why the book, it's history, but it's a history that informs what's happening right now.
00:50:33.660And the gender madness we're seeing is a huge part of chapter two.
00:50:36.860So, Buck, I just want you to know, you had me at former German scientist.
00:50:43.980I just want you to know, you had me there.
00:51:39.180And that's stuff that people should be very aware of as well because it's effectively a totalitarian state without the state.
00:51:45.840It's the full control of individuals that is achieved through this mind control process without having a massive secret police.
00:51:55.240You know, it's one thing for the Soviet Union to do it.
00:51:57.320It's another thing for Maoist China to do it.
00:51:59.040But to operate on an individual or a much smaller basis, that's obviously what you see going on in cults.
00:52:05.720But I break this down into conditioning, and I start with Pavlov.
00:52:09.600Fascinating stuff about Ivan Pavlov, Nobel laureate, and really the beginning of our scientific conception of understanding that what your brain is taking in affects your body directly.
00:52:23.860And you get into sort of the reflex and the conditional reflex, which is initially what it was called.
00:53:51.040You know, I've heard from, because I've changed my approach to the show recently, you know, in the last,
00:53:58.040it's been happening over the last three, four or five months.
00:54:01.820And I'm trying just to explain things more than anything else.
00:54:06.540Just try to help clarify things so people can understand it.
00:54:11.320Less opinion maybe, and more just, here's what's actually happening and how it works.
00:54:16.400Um, and, and my gut has told me that is so important because the world doesn't need more opinions and it doesn't need more electric shocks to it.
00:54:30.200Um, the only way out is through reason.
00:54:43.360This is where the book, uh, sort of finishes in the last chapter.
00:54:46.720And, and the, the final arguments are people need to understand that the, uh, the city advice, uh, the call to arms, if you will, uh, from souls and needs in the great Soviet dissident of live, not my lies.
00:55:01.840You have people ask me, how do we avoid this stuff?
00:55:04.100Cause this lays out the different tactics.
00:55:05.920It lays out confusion and degradation as the twin pillars of menticide.
00:55:09.860For example, it lays out, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, just wait, explain each of those as you go through them real quickly.
00:55:17.540So, so, so in the mental cycle process, in order to unmoor you from your ethics, your sense of self, your sense of reality around you, um, they want to keep you confused.
00:55:28.080Now they can lock you in a cell, cut you off from all daylight and, you know, blast music in.
00:55:34.640There's things that they can physically do, but also there are ways that you can just try to keep people confused through propaganda, confused through messaging.
00:55:42.880So they don't have the basic moral understanding and degradation is really a degradation of your ability to understand the most fundamental truth.
00:55:51.800And this is why I get into the transgender madness that sees this country because Glenn under a menticidal framework, if you are willing to affirm the most obvious madness, which is that a man can become a woman and that there's no biological advantage, these sorts of things.
00:56:09.260You are not just conceding on that issue.
00:56:11.880You are degrading your own brain's ability to make the most basic distinctions and undermining the confidence that you have in your perception of reality.
00:56:22.100This is a key step in mere lose menticide.
00:56:26.100This is a key step in how, and this is why it can be done with extreme force, but it can also be done with extreme messaging all throughout the society around us.
00:56:35.780It was, I mean, some of, some of that is through extreme force, because if you didn't, if you didn't go along with it, you were ostracized, you were out.
00:56:47.600It's just a difference of what the punishments are.
00:56:50.800I mean, one of them, there's a whole, uh, there's a whole chapter, Glenn, where I get into, uh, what really happened in China and the incredible amount of the Chinese, the Maoists borrowed from the Stalinists who of course were like, Hey, we have this new Soviet man that we're going to build.
00:57:05.780This guy Pavlov, you know, Pavlov, by the way, actually hated the Soviets, the whole other thing, but this guy Pavlov, we can build on his scientific knowledge and we can just basically turn people into robots.
00:57:16.840That's, that's a, one of the good news parts of this is that every human being, you could say, because of our underlying makeup, you could say, because of our soul, you can't just flip a switch and get the same outcome.
00:57:27.240It's not actually a machine, but there is a process here.
00:57:30.720And what they would do in Maoist China, and there was a psychologist, Robert Lifton, who traveled there right at the early phase of the Chinese culture revolution.
00:57:39.360And, and he said, one of the things that they would come up with is people would have to, they would force confessions, Glenn.
00:57:45.260This also goes to degradation, force confessions.
00:58:24.740These are, are trends in mind control that have seized this country.
00:58:28.640And Pavlovian conditioning, wear a mask, even when everyone knows you're outside.
00:58:32.580I mean, all these things that we did, these physical manifestations of obedience are meant to train our minds into a way that we can be molded and weaponized for politics.
00:58:42.520And to what you're saying about all the messages everywhere and why it's so important not to live, to live not by lies now.
00:58:48.220Now, because of technology and AI, I'm glad I'm sure you come across this too.
00:58:53.220Sometimes even among my own staff on the show, we'll say, oh, guys, is this, is this AI?
01:00:03.660Dozens of parents lined up along the sidelines.
01:00:06.140You know, they got chairs and coffee cups and, you know, everybody's trying to pretend they're they're not more competitive than their kids.
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01:00:36.140It starts out sometimes as ego, as heat and somebody who doesn't know how to back down.
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01:01:38.600So, Buck, I want to first teach you how to sell a book.
01:01:44.280Whenever you're doing an interview, you should say in, like every other sentence, as I say in Manufacturing Delusion, as I talk about in my book, Manufacturing Delusion, make sure you keep hammering the name of your book.
01:02:43.860AI, I believe, is going to make the truth irrelevant if we're not careful.
01:02:49.080Because why tell one big lie when instead you can tell a hundred million little lies, each one built for that individual that will take them way off track.
01:03:01.960I mean, truth is something that is becoming very slippery, very slippery.
01:03:08.240Well, it's absolutely the case that we're entering a realm now where, first of all, you have people that are claiming to have an absolute control over the truth as part of living in a free society, which is, of course, contradictory.
01:03:26.160But we just went through this with the disinformation czar.
01:03:29.420I was calling her Marxist Mary Poppins.
01:03:33.140Remember her under the Biden administration?
01:03:35.340This notion that we are going to be able to have government bodies and bureaus that are the gatekeepers of conversation and what is allowed to be said and what's going on.
01:04:41.580Point being, look, the reality here of the technology that we're facing and what this is going to do to people's perception.
01:04:50.460We are running an experiment right now that has never been run before with humanity where we are subject to, and that's why it's brainwashing, indoctrination, and propaganda.
01:05:00.380Propaganda is the stuff that's just, it's everywhere, it's anywhere, it's anytime, all the time.
01:05:06.900And we carry around, you know, you're obviously, Glenn, a radio guy for decades now.
01:05:13.900We carry around these multimedia propaganda devices with us 24-7 and are subjecting ourselves.
01:05:21.880So in Manufacturing Delusion, I get to how you need to view, first of all, propaganda didn't even start out as a bad thing per se.
01:05:30.320It actually comes from the Catholic Church, which I think is particularly interesting.
01:05:33.100It was for the propagation of the faith.
01:05:36.600There was a Latin term, and that's where we got propaganda from.
01:05:40.120It was the true faith was being spread by the Catholic Church.
01:06:42.50080,000 babies who are alive today because a mom, in a moment of fear and uncertainty, was given a chance to see and hear the life she was carrying.
01:06:50.500I like to double that number because I think it saved not only the life of the baby, 80,000, but also 80,000 moms who are not walking around with that kind of weight on them.
01:07:13.040And when moms see that baby and they see that ultrasound and they hear that heartbeat, it changes the conversation, changes the atmosphere, and it turns the abstract decision into a human reality.
01:07:24.140Pre-born connects women with local clinics that provide free ultrasounds and compassionate care so they can slow down, breathe, and make an informed choice.
01:08:52.720Um, they, they, you know, you always, uh, you will always sell your soul.
01:08:57.640You'll know when you're talking to somebody, uh, who has sold their soul and they've done it.
01:09:03.480Honestly, they think they're doing the right thing, but they've ended up selling their soul.
01:09:07.540They will say, I had to make this compromise because I wanted to get onto this committee because it's so important that I'm on this committee.
01:09:14.580When you hear that, they'll mean it honestly, but you can look them in the eye and say, dude, you sold your soul.
01:09:21.300Um, once you take that first step and compromise like that, it's just, now it's just, now it's just going to keep going downhill because now what will you do to stay on that committee?
01:09:31.840Um, and you know, the other, the other big thing you'll hear from, uh, representatives and senators is I got to stay here because if I'm gone, who's going to wait a minute, you, I mean, you're the, you're the one.
01:09:44.840I can't tell you how many times Mike Lee has called me and went, oh, glad I'm leaving.
01:10:45.560Our twins were, were born, uh, just back in November.
01:10:49.020Um, and has been so great to hear from you and to, uh, just be uplifted every day, to feel empowered, to know what might be coming down the line and to be able to prepare.
01:11:00.620Um, but I, I just wanted to share some, some good news.
01:16:00.320Um, you also have Alvarez, um, Alvaro Lopez.
01:16:05.260He's a former official with a democratic socialist of America.
01:16:09.240Lopez called people who ripped down flyers of Israeli hostages heroes.
01:16:13.860He wrote a socialist strategy for Palestinian solidarity in 2024 that included convincing voters that USAID to Israel causes declining living, living standards.
01:16:26.620Momdani also hired, uh, Drashti Bombat, who led a campus movement calling on Brown university to divest from companies that do business with the Jewish state, uh, as a college student.
01:16:39.220And, uh, uh, he was an advisor on the 100 day planning and implementation of that.
01:16:44.900Also, he replaced the executive director of the mayor's office to combat antisemitism with a left-wing activist who has openly bashed Israel.
01:16:55.780So you're there in charge of antisemitism, stopping antisemitism.
01:20:04.660I think this is one of the most important books to understand what is actually happening with our border.
01:20:11.220What, why they are protesting so hard, um, to make sure that we don't pick any of these people up off the street, that this is not ended and exposed.
01:20:21.920This is the book, you know, I saw that, uh, the FBI and, and, uh, Trump now is reaching out to the Mexican government because they think that Nancy Guthrie, um, Savannah Guthrie's mom is actually maybe over the border in Mexico and they're looking for help.
01:20:38.480The Mexicans aren't, they're a hostile nation.
01:20:42.020And I know that sounds crazy because I've never considered them a hostile nation until you read this book and you see the, the facts that Peter has laid out the, the president of Mexico and, and, and so many others in their Senate are saying, this is a hostile takeover of the United States.
01:21:03.260We are going to take our territory from the Mexican line, all the way to Montana.
01:21:10.620We're taking that territory back and they're openly talking about it, but we're not talking about it here.
01:21:36.180If you found out your grocery store was donating a portion of every purchase you, you, uh, um, everything that you buy there and they were donating it to something you completely disagreed with.
01:21:47.600Would you keep shopping there just because it was right around the corner or would you go find one that was maybe a few blocks down?
01:21:57.860Yet every single month, most of us pay a cell phone bill without ever thinking about what the company is funding, who they support, or what ideas they're actively promoting.
01:22:07.220Patriot mobile exists for people who don't want their money drifting into places.
01:24:00.420It still stands that if you have the backbone and spine and the will to say, okay, well, Senator, you can filibuster all you want, but we're not going to have 60 votes.
01:26:55.180There is declining birth rates everywhere in the world.
01:26:58.720And a guy who is a data scientist, Stephen Shaw, who has been studying this, and probably the leading expert on it, is going to be joining us here in just a second.
01:27:19.280First, let me tell you about Real Estate Agents I Trust.
01:27:21.860This is one of my companies, and it is something that was born out of frustration.
01:27:27.000My brother and I were both trying to sell our house at the same time, and neither of us knew how to interview an agent and know that we had the right person.
01:27:35.100And we were both having problems selling the house.
01:27:37.480So we started working with the 500 best real estate agents in the country.
01:27:43.120That's according to the Wall Street Journal, and we learned from them.
01:27:45.660I remember asking them over and over again, so what makes you different?
01:27:54.760And I learned so much, and my brother and I started talking, why don't we do a referral service, and we'll go and seek these people out beyond the 500 best.
01:28:05.140Just let's use their own set of what made them great and look for those qualities in other real estate agents, and that way we can recommend them to people.
01:28:37.600We just can't monitor that many people because we want to make sure that they do what we're telling you they're going to do, treat you right and sell your house and buy your next house with the best experience you can have and save the most amount of money.
01:29:01.080I don't even know where to begin with you.
01:29:02.540Well, I like your introduction because this is a crisis unlike any other crisis that we're facing.
01:29:10.260We're facing a lot of crises, Glenn, and this one, I think, should be at the top of the agenda simply because we don't know what the solution is.
01:29:17.660I think every other crisis, we could kind of come up with ideas of solutions, nuclear proliferation.
01:29:23.680If you want to go down other avenues in the environment, you can at least have a conversation.
01:29:27.120But this one, really, there's no example of a nation that's ever recovered from this.
01:29:33.580I'm going to get into the stats here in a second with you.
01:29:36.100I want you to explain how bad the problem is.
01:29:39.180But do we even know what's causing the problem?
01:29:44.520Well, we have a pretty good idea of what it's not.
01:29:58.220The numbers are showing two things that, to me, really take us down to a much deeper understanding than saying that we've got a birth rate problem.
01:30:20.260Do you know that mothers in the U.S. are having more children now than they were in the 80s?
01:30:24.740Because even mothers in Japan are having the same number of children as 1970, same across much of Europe.
01:30:32.620So once you have your first child, you're actually going on to have two, maybe three children, just as much as your mother's generation and even in some cases grandmother.
01:30:44.500Yeah, I mean, this is through incredible shifts in education opportunities for women, political shifts, cultural shifts, and many parts of the world.
01:30:55.460Mothers are, to me, incredibly resilient and by inference, fathers too.
01:31:09.800This is about the people who probably would have wanted to become a parent, but things didn't work out.
01:31:18.780And that really takes us down to a much deeper understanding of why is it that many people who plan to become a parent, and I know this will resonate with many of your listeners.
01:31:30.520And to be honest with you, the people I have met who have been in this category, they often talk of grief.
01:31:37.820So my heart goes out to any of your listeners who dreamed of a family, and for whatever reason, not meeting the right partner, things not lining up, divorce, breakup.
01:31:48.600And if you look at the data from Japan to Europe, U.S., even now Southern India is saying the same thing.
01:31:55.820You're finding the number of people with no children who dreamed of it is the real heart of this issue.
01:32:02.000Okay, so is that possibly linked at all with the way our society now is saying, don't get married early, do your career.
01:32:12.660And so you're in your 30s sometimes before you get married, and then you just wait a couple more years, and all of a sudden you've just timed out.
01:32:22.040Does that have anything to do with it?
01:33:39.880And we're noticing this right now, Glenn.
01:33:43.820You know, it's in the news almost daily in some cases.
01:33:46.460The reality is, this started in the 70s.
01:33:50.080But we didn't really know this because people who delayed parenthood in the early 70s mostly had a chance to catch up and have a child mid-20s, late-20s.
01:34:00.420We're now at a point where people are starting so late.
01:34:03.980It gets more and more challenging for different reasons to really have your first child, you know, 33, 35, 37.
01:35:10.580It's reached so late that the likelihood of a woman ever becoming a mother in South Korea is now less than 50%.
01:35:19.420Only 45% of women there ever become mothers.
01:35:23.920And the extra challenge they now have, because it's happening so late, 40% of women there only have one child.
01:35:33.740Usually it's around 20% of most nations.
01:35:36.600Even neighboring Japan, it's around 20%.
01:35:39.320So not only is it incredibly unlikely now for a woman to have a child in South Korea, it's more and more likely that she'll only have one.
01:35:47.880So is this at all caused by Western civilization?
01:35:55.840I mean, the way we have, the way we've prioritized our lives now, and in many cases away from creationism, away from the family is sacred, that humans are supposed to multiply and be fruitful.
01:36:15.480Instead, you know, put yourself first, put the, you know, your, your, your, um, your business first or whatever, because is this happening across all cultures or is it just the Western culture?
01:36:30.260Glenn, this is every culture you research and even Southern India now has birth rates as low as 1.6, the same as the U S and has been at that level.
01:36:40.480So, uh, in some cases, it's not, it's not, it's not Islam, is it?
01:36:46.420Uh, well, do you know, I, I get to, you know, I'm lucky I get to speak in places around the world.
01:36:51.680I get to meet governments around the world.
01:36:53.860And I've been to the Middle East three times in the past year with governments deeply worried about the rapid falling birth rates in the Middle East.
01:37:04.760Because you're not too far from, well, to be honest with you, you were, you were, you were really right.
01:37:08.240We've lost something in all communities.
01:37:11.740And what is it driven by perhaps innocently, perhaps otherwise, we have turned our twenties into a decade of education, education, education, without thinking about family, future family, and then career development, career development, career development.
01:37:29.300And when you, when I get to talk to young people that in the U S today, a woman turning 30 without a child has at most a 50% chance of ever becoming a mother age 30.
01:37:44.760If you haven't already had your first child, and that's the same in all of these countries.
01:37:48.580In fact, in Japan, it's even younger, it's only 26.
01:37:52.060So we have put so much focus on other things other than family.
01:37:58.980And frankly, haven't been honest to ourselves, partly because few people have known the data.
01:38:04.820I hope that changes that unless the societies, yeah, I get the reality.
01:38:10.280CDC data will tell you that around 90% of women either have or want kids.
01:38:15.440And that really hasn't changed very much.
01:38:18.420It's come down a little bit, but not what you might hear in the press.
01:38:28.12090% or more of women do want children one day.
01:38:31.880But when you hear the reality today for the U S is we're looking now close to as few as six out of 10 ever becoming mothers, you know, that gap in, I think, people's dreams for family and young people's assumptions that, hey, society's got me covered.
01:38:48.860They're telling me to get an education.
01:38:51.840And of course, then I'm going to be able to meet someone and settle down because that's what most people want to do.
01:38:57.500And then finding out as many as 30% of women dreaming of a family end up childless.
01:39:06.040Steven, um, does the, the fact that for some reason, this new generation is not having as much sex, uh, as every other generation before, is that going to pile on to this and make it worse?
01:39:26.520And I'm not sure it will, but when I, when you look at all of the challenges, my kids are in their twenties, you know, you see the challenges of this generation, um, you know, relationship, sex, certainly in terms of devoting time to, you know, spending time alone and perhaps gaming, et cetera.
01:40:04.840Right now, let's say you're 20 years old and there's someone you're quite interested in.
01:40:10.040You're not thinking at that age, mostly they might be the person I settled down and have family with because for many people that's 10 years away.
01:40:53.200I got to take a quick network break and then we'll be back.
01:40:55.720Um, it was Stephen Shaw talking about the population implosion that is coming and what does this mean for the future, near future, uh, and what can be done to correct it?
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01:42:25.220You know, it's really amazing to me how many people have an opinion about what's going on with the FCC and they have no idea.
01:42:53.200They don't know their butt from their elbow.
01:42:54.800I've been in this business radio for almost 50 years.
01:42:58.380Um, and, uh, I don't really even understand all of this.
01:43:02.180The guy, before you form an opinion or go off and, you know, blast and tweet something, why don't we get the facts from the chairman of the FCC on what is actually happening?
01:43:11.700And I'm not sure which side I'm even going to come down on, but, uh, he joins us here in about 10 minutes.
01:43:23.820Uh, and when are we, you know, you say this started in the seventies and we didn't really see it cause it was slow.
01:43:29.440So now it's starting to creep up and people are starting to be aware of it, but when do we see it actually where it's take your breath away impact?
01:43:43.300We're already seeing the impact in parts of Europe and Japan and Korea, uh, U S has benefited from, you know, more open immigration than many countries.
01:43:51.640And that is a balancing factor, but the low birth rate is now at a point really where balancing this with immigration will be a challenge even for the U S.
01:44:01.840So if you look forward, I like to look at the timeframe that the total number of births in the country will half for the U S births are going to half.
01:44:11.240If they stay the same as they are now, and I found a thing they're going down.
01:44:15.680Births are going to half in the U S every 80 years.
01:44:17.800So by the end of the century, instead of something close to 4 million births, you're going to have around 2 million births per year.
01:44:25.860Now you, even in the year 2100, you may not notice that in New York city or Chicago, because you know what people most likely will still flock to cities.
01:44:37.400It will feel crowded, but you go to the slightly more urban, uh, slightly more rural areas, and you'll find those are communities that will be decimated.
01:44:46.900Communities with the first thing that happens is the schools closed down.
01:44:51.300What happens when schools closed down?
01:44:56.000They move to other areas that become more expensive because that's where the jobs are.
01:45:00.240And the older people get left behind in the decaying towns, social security.
01:45:05.080Well, we already have issues with national debts and being able to afford social security and healthcare.
01:45:10.640These are the good days when it comes to that.
01:45:14.380I just can't imagine how we're going to, you know, face the mounting debts from the shrinking number of workers that this implies.
01:45:22.200And yes, it may be the AI and robots will help our efficiency, but the scale at which we're going to need to increase productivity to counter that, to keep our societies maintained the way they are, is a very big question indeed.
01:45:36.520So basically all the cards are against this in terms of how government functions, how we look after society, as well as the idea of, you know, I spent about seven years in Detroit city, uh, in the suburbs, of course, because at that time, anyway, uh, around the time of the bankruptcy in 2013.
01:45:54.860And no one lived in the center then you, everyone lived in the suburbs because you know what happened now that wasn't because of population decline, but the exact same impact of decaying, the imploding cities and bankruptcies.
01:46:16.820My, my staff said, Glenn, you're the, once you talk to Steven, you're, this is all you're going to think about.
01:46:21.300I'd love to have you back and I'd love to spend a podcast with you, um, and talk about, you know, the rest of this, but also what can we do besides go out and have sex and have children, go have children.
01:46:34.840Um, and you can educate yourself, go to birthgap.org, birthgap.org.
01:46:41.080Um, Steven Shaw is the writer and producer of birth gap.
01:46:44.580Um, check out the information, check out his website and, uh, Steven, I'd love to have you back.