Glenn Beck and David French react to President Trump's meeting with Congressional Democrats and Republicans to discuss gun control and the Second Amendment. They discuss what they think of the President's comments and why they think it was a big mistake.
00:00:45.240Yesterday, the President sat down with Congressional Democrats and Republicans to discuss ideas on how to prevent more mass shootings, something we should be doing.
00:00:54.480But how do we describe this other than an absolute constitutional nightmare?
00:01:00.000Trump took an extreme, just an extreme hard left against the Second, the Fifth, the Fourteenth, and I believe the Fourth Amendment.
00:01:11.360I mean, this is what we expected from other presidents, from the last president, right?
00:02:12.100And the reason why President Obama would have never said this in public, if he believed that, is because he knew every single person in the conservative media, every Republican, many NRA members who are Democrats, would have called for his impeachment.
00:02:57.140Do you remember when we all went to bat for the president when the headlines in the New York Times said things like Trump just made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns?
00:03:09.260What they were referring to was an Obama era regulation mandating that people receiving disability payments from Social Security, which doesn't make you mentally ill, or receiving assistance to manage their benefits.
00:03:22.220Their benefits, not their checkbook, their benefits, would have been reported to the federal gun background check system.
00:03:28.480It locked out tens of thousands of people, elderly people, from buying guns, not based on their mental capacity, but on the basis of being classified by the government in a certain way.
00:03:39.560Now, I don't think that was the original intent, but you can see how handling the issue of who is mentally ill and who isn't is a very slippery slope.
00:04:01.800Everybody that I know, every NRA member that I know, thinks that the sheriff should have taken the guns away, I don't know, maybe on the third call.
00:04:13.100We have to figure this out, but eliminating due process and neutering the Constitution is not the way to do it.
00:07:15.980Yesterday had to come as kind of a surprise to you, because you're a guy who is authoring some of the bills they were talking about yesterday.
00:07:26.520Well, yesterday, it was one of those moments when somebody takes an idea that you've been talking about, twists it, distorts it, misstates it in such a grotesque way that it's unrecognizable.
00:07:43.600So you had Mike Pence talking about, in a very responsible and sane and sober way, the concept of a gun violence restraining order, which allows people to seek an order from a court and with due process, with a hearing, when someone is exhibiting dangerous behavior, to allow a temporary seizure of their guns when there's red flags.
00:08:09.340And in the vast, vast majority of these mass shootings, there have been red flags.
00:08:14.700And a lot of times people haven't had the tools to do anything about it.
00:11:10.440For instance, when you have a problem, you know who also didn't get due process?
00:11:16.380The Japanese, as they were put onto a bus for an internment camp.
00:11:21.680I mean, when there is a trouble, when there's trouble, and you are not based in the Constitution,
00:11:28.300that is a moment that could go horribly awry, as it has in the past here in America.
00:11:35.720When the president says, well, I'm not really afraid of the NRA, I don't think in 2021 he'll be afraid of anybody.
00:11:47.320And if we have trouble, this is a giant red flag.
00:11:52.720Right, and, you know, so not only is it a red flag on pure policy grounds, in other words, how does the president exercise the powers of his office?
00:12:03.440It's also, look, the bully pulpit matters.
00:12:07.280You know, this is a novel theory on the part of many parts of the conservative public that what the president says doesn't really matter,
00:12:15.440which is just a rationalization and an excuse.
00:12:19.840The bully pulpit matters when you're talking about the person with perhaps the greatest public platform in the world,
00:12:28.740and they're indifferent at best to the Constitution.
00:12:33.440They're obviously here seem to really not care about the Second Amendment all that much.
00:12:38.240Those things matter, especially when the other side is locked in.
00:12:43.060I mean, the other side is locked in on messaging.
00:12:45.940It is locked in, has extraordinary party discipline right now.
00:12:49.820I believe it was, what, 156 of the 193 members of Congress signed on,
00:12:55.600Democratic members of Congress signed on to the assault weapons ban legislation that was just introduced.
00:13:00.880So the other side is focused and locked in, and, you know, when the bully pulpit is occupied by somebody who is not as focused,
00:13:10.020focused, not as locked in, and apparently indifferent to core constitutional values, that's a problem.
00:13:17.480We want to talk to, we're talking to David French.
00:13:19.180We want to talk to him about a story that he wrote in The Atlantic,
00:13:21.800what critics don't understand about the gun culture.
00:21:43.200I don't have faith in anybody anymore.
00:21:46.340Well, we, we have to have faith in our neighbors.
00:21:49.600Uh, and, and we either believe that there is no one on the other side that actually cares about rights, that actually cares about the constitution and the country and the founders.
00:22:06.480We either believe that there is no one on the other side that believes that, uh, and that leads us to what, to where does that lead us?
00:22:16.760A split country, uh, how do you win with that?
00:22:24.120We either believe that, and that doesn't lead any place good, or we believe that, you know what?
00:22:30.080There's a, a lot of misguided people out there.
00:22:33.080There's a lot of people that I don't understand.
00:22:36.340There's a lot of people that probably agree with me, but I haven't talked to them.
00:22:42.340Or, you know, and on top of that, there's maybe 20%, 10%, 20% that just really do not care about the country.
00:22:55.140You know, when, when, when you're talking about the left and the right, I think there's 10%, but let's be, let's be really pessimistic.
00:23:03.760There's 20% on both sides that don't care about the constitution.
00:23:08.720They only care about winning their way.
00:23:11.180They take totalitarianism if that's what it takes.
00:23:14.640I don't believe there's 40% of America that believes that, but let's just say that leaves 60% of us who are now watching this, this, this cartoon and saying, this is ridiculous.
00:23:28.160This is what, what, what, we, there's common sense things we can do to protect our children.
00:23:36.080One of them is to make sure that crazy people don't have guns.
00:23:42.920So we could do due process and do what the Americans always do.
00:23:48.240And that is, Hey, if family members think that there is a problem, you can go to court and have their guns temporarily taken away because there's a problem.
00:24:00.260There's domestic abuse abuse, or there's a situation like there was in Florida.
00:24:04.040And you can go to court and say, look, that we believe this guy is a danger to himself and to others.
00:24:08.940We need to make sure he has no access to guns that he does not have guns.
00:24:14.780And then the court says, okay, for six months or whatever it is.
00:25:04.860So why do we believe that they're the ones that we hear people describe on television as well?
00:25:14.800I just want to read a couple of comments that came in because I read a letter yesterday on the air from a guy who said, look, I don't agree with you at all, but you've given me hope that this can go beyond politics, that there are reasonable people who are just as disgusted by what's going on in Washington as I am, even though we're on the other side.
00:27:46.380And I won't solve it by, you know, going back on my principles.
00:27:53.060If you don't have principles, you have nothing.
00:27:57.120If we don't have the Constitution, we have nothing.
00:28:05.580I was reading these comments and people were like, here, one liberal argument against the Bill of Rights, I often hear, is that the Bill of Rights was just an afterthought.
00:28:17.220And it was only approved because they were tired of hearing about it.
00:28:20.300Seriously, they're all that ignorant to believe it.
00:28:22.960Well, first of all, there's a little bit of truth in that.
00:28:25.560We had the Constitution, and then, because everybody was afraid the government was going to violate these rights, they decided, let's put them down on paper.
00:28:34.500Let's show people, let's demonstrate to them that the government will never do these things.
00:30:07.620I'm here to tell you, I don't have any talent on loan from God.
00:30:11.520I struggle with the same problems that you struggle with, of my family, raising my children, how to deal with the internet in my life with my children, how to deal with me, struggle with my job, struggle with money, all of it.
00:34:40.060They built a platform that actually goes out and searches for the candidate for you.
00:34:44.380ZipRecruiter looks, knows what you're looking for.
00:34:46.680It learns what you're looking for, identifies the people with the right experience, and then invites them to apply for your job.
00:34:52.760The invitations have made it possible 80% of the people who post a job on ZipRecruiter get the quality candidate through the site in the first day.
00:36:18.880But they just run to whoever says what they want to hear.
00:36:21.220And it's not an issue of taking a side.
00:36:25.480It's an issue of them just, they want to have their life and they're so used to the government being involved that it just is the way it is anymore.
00:36:33.680So, Joe, could you say that they probably feel the same way, that there are some in that 60% that feel the same way about the Republicans?
00:36:44.800Because I can tell you that I think there's a lot of Republicans that fit in that category as well as Democrats.
00:37:57.200She was Trump's communications director.
00:37:59.420She was one of the longest serving advisors and arguably Trump's most trusted aide.
00:38:04.380She had often had the challenging job of talking him down from an angry tweet or redirecting his attention elsewhere.
00:38:10.960She corralled the press to, you know, get on message when they were at odds with each other, which was all the time, apparently, in the White House.
00:39:49.460The limelight and the scrutiny of the House Intelligence Committee and her relationship with Rob Porter, made public, appeared to have pushed her to end something she really never wanted to start.
00:40:01.880When she leaves the White House in a couple of weeks, she's going to escape relatively unscathed.
00:40:48.700I want to hear from you today because yesterday was a crazy day constitutionally, a crazy day politically.
00:40:57.740I've I've I mean, I expected the kind of words that came out of Donald Trump's mouth yesterday on live television.
00:41:07.860I expected those coming out of the mouth of President Obama behind closed doors, something that he would have never said.
00:41:15.500But I never expected to hear them from a president who was on the Republican side and had the backing of the NRA and and is is is heading the supposedly the party that cares about the Constitution.
00:45:34.900I mean, if Trump really believes that we should have, you know, more gun control and things that the NRA is comfortable with, he should take on the NRA.
00:47:19.480California actually has a version of this.
00:47:22.180And I think you, in your meeting with governors earlier this week individually and as a group, we spoke about states taking steps.
00:47:31.820But the focus is to literally give families and give local law enforcement additional tools if an individual is reported to be a potential danger to themselves or others.
00:47:46.400But the ability to go to court, obtain an order, and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons in the possession of that individual.
00:47:54.740Or Mike take the firearms first and then go to court because that's another system because a lot of times by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court.
00:48:41.280How about that one time, though, when they were trying to lure you into voting for all the gun control measures that they've been pushing for for a long time?
00:49:32.420And now you see this morning, Trump is tweeting as if that conversation happened.
00:49:36.220He's like, well, we got to respect the Second Amendment.
00:49:37.720And, you know, he's he sounds a lot more like a Republican president today than he did yesterday.
00:49:43.080And if that's the outcome of this, it's scary because one of these times is not going to work.
00:49:48.520But if that's the outcome, then we're all going to be fine in a couple of weeks.
00:49:51.720And it just it certainly has to make you nervous that he has his instincts are take the guns first.
00:49:58.560And his knowledge level is I don't know about the biggest issue in this area as I stand in front of the entire nation in a public meeting talking with the guy who sponsored the bill that I don't know anything about and accusing him of being afraid of the NRA.
00:50:13.940Right. Like that is it's so incredible.
00:50:17.600You never. So someone pointed out on Twitter today that he sounds at times like the president is a caller on sports radio.
00:50:26.440You know, a guy who's just kind of like he knows generally the topics.
00:50:29.500He knows the teams, you know, some of the players, but he doesn't he's not he doesn't know how to run a sports franchise.
00:50:35.060And I might say that yesterday sounded more like Glenn Beck calling sports radio your phone calls for the rest of the hour.
00:51:25.040But they're you know, they're at the age now where things are starting to go wrong.
00:51:28.400And I don't want to have to worry about, you know, they're fixing something that is going to cost me more than the truck is worth because the truck is still good.
00:51:37.900So I have an extended vehicle service protection from car shield.
00:51:41.660And if you are in the same situation, my my son-in-law, he's the guy that they've got an old Jetta and he just had to have a sensor for his ABS system replaced.
00:51:56.800He could go to somebody to do it, but it was the actual the Volkswagen had to have it were the only ones that could actually install it and encode it.
00:52:55.780I'm giving you a call because I think the narrative needs to change from gun control to people control.
00:53:00.640I don't think that the government's got it right on this one.
00:53:04.600I also think that I have two proposed ideas that I think would resolve a lot of the issues.
00:53:09.220I don't think anything will ever fix 100% the issues of gun violence or any type of violence for that matter.
00:53:15.000But I think the issue should be if we ask our police departments and people in the police department to take a psychological evaluation, a written one, prior to being hired to be on the police department, I think that in order to purchase a firearm, you should have to go through the same exact exam.
00:53:36.120I think that would take care of the mental illness issue with people who are mentally ill.
00:53:42.800It will also resolve the issue of temporary insanity.
00:53:46.160What stops a person who has, you know, who's 50 years old, gets fired from their job and goes by as a weapon and goes on a mass shooting at their job?
00:53:55.120You know, the only thing that would stop them is if they had to take an exam that would test their temperament and to see if they're eligible to purchase a firearm.
00:54:05.060Well, a couple of a couple of thoughts with this, Richard.
00:54:08.620First of all, temporary insanity is not insanity.
00:54:11.340So there's no test for temporary insanity.
00:54:13.720It's it's something that you you snap.
00:54:17.100That's why it's called temporary insanity, because something extraordinarily emotional just happened to you and you snap and you wouldn't necessarily be able to test for that in advance.
00:54:26.920The second thing is, is you're talking about applying a standard that is given to the police department.
00:54:33.280Well, the police, it's not a right to be a police officer.
00:55:42.360So, in other words, I have the right to own a gun and I want to you want to test me before I get the gun.
00:55:50.860No, you you want to say that there are things in place that if I start to have erratic behavior, you can go in front of a court and constitutionally for my Fourth and Fifth Amendment have due process.
00:56:03.840Yes, you can't just take my gun, but I have due process.
00:56:17.360So anytime you want to put a poll tax anytime this was a problem with African-Americans, let let well, you got to pass this test to see if you're really able to vote.
00:56:29.520And I agree with that to a certain extent, but I think if we can put parameters on different events of life to test you, to figure out if you're qualified to do certain things, qualified to be a lawyer.
00:56:43.880Just because I go read the law books tomorrow doesn't qualify.
00:59:08.420An exception if it's only it can you are prohibited from putting someone in involuntary servitude or slavery except for a punishment of for a crime.
00:59:18.220We've seen people on the side of the road collecting trash.
00:59:20.800You've seen this in every, you know, prison movie going back the past 100 years.
00:59:33.140You will do and work as the system says, because so the 13th Amendment says there's no slavery or involuntary servitude unless or accept this.
00:59:45.740OK, we all know the third, third, third Amendment, right?
01:00:02.900No, it says unless unless it's wartime and they pass a law saying they can put quartered soldiers in your home.
01:00:09.740So, in other words, you can say you're not quartering these soldiers in my home and you can hold up the the the third Amendment and say, absolutely.
01:02:48.620Well, I mean, now they do because we're violating the the the Fourth Amendment.
01:02:52.420But they don't we all know the government does not have a right to spy on you.
01:02:59.300What they have is a is no right to spy on you unless they can go to a court and get a warrant because they've proved there's enough here that we need to follow and spy you spy on you.
01:03:15.440So there is an unless in that right there isn't with voting.
01:03:22.640There isn't an unless there's just age.
01:03:27.180There isn't an unless in the Second Amendment.
01:04:59.080I, for one, don't trust psychologists.
01:05:02.460And I think a lot of Americans feel this way.
01:05:05.140The APA has been completely politicized.
01:05:08.260Their votes on transgenderism and homosexuality and all that proves it.
01:05:12.540They were political votes not having anything to do with actual data and studies.
01:05:17.020And I've known, I mean, I've known a lot of people who are messed up people who went into psychology to try to figure themselves out.
01:05:25.260And then they came out with a job, you know.
01:05:27.680So, I mean, I thought I had, I knew one marriage and family therapist who was bipolar and manic.
01:05:34.240So, you know, there, we have to be as much.
01:05:39.440You're exactly right, Mike, on this, that we have to be really careful about anything having to do with.
01:05:47.020A psychiatric being a default because everything is being politicized.
01:05:52.640Now, that's why the proposal that the right is proposing is that we have a system to where your family, just like committing people, where your family can come in and say, look, Your Honor, we need to make sure that he doesn't have these guns because he is a danger.
01:06:12.160And that's, that could have, that could have stopped the shooting in Florida.
01:06:32.660When President Trump did what he said about the due process, what he was saying was also was, you have liberals that have come out the due process for everything else.
01:06:42.880This whole Me Too movement was a tack on due process.
01:06:45.600So what he was basically saying is, when CNN, MSNBC, and all the mainstream media come out to him, whenever he says something, they come out to him.
01:06:53.800So if he get Democrats in the media over and say, okay, fine, President Trump is against due process, well, we are supporting due process.
01:07:02.560So now, by them doing that, by them going against him and saying, well, he's against due process, he can't do that.
01:07:09.340Now, what they have done, now they have shut down the Me Too movement.
01:07:14.200They have shut down Black Lives Matter trash.
01:07:16.800They have shut down some of their main liberal agendas because their main liberal agendas are against due process.
01:07:25.480So, Jamal, you are way ahead of the game.
01:07:31.240You are right on the money on how due process anybody who is against this, but for the Me Too movement in the way it's, I mean, to its nth degree, you're exactly right.
01:07:44.220But I believe beyond that, you are a little wishing and hoping, kind of like people were when Justice Roberts said, no, I'm cool with the whole tax people, you know, just to be an honest citizen.
01:08:00.700This is like 67,000 dimension chess we're talking about with Joel.
01:08:06.540Well, Glenn, I'm going to tell you this.
01:08:08.140The Republicans, we play chess is why the Democrats play chess.
01:08:17.420When they have been attacking the Second Amendment ever since 1934, when they passed the law against the cops and submachine gun, that's when they first started doing it.
01:08:27.700They've been eroding the Second Amendment more and more.
01:08:30.260They found more reasons to deny you the right to have the second than they do for voting.
01:08:40.520The failures in the black community is the failure of the black church.
01:08:43.860And every time you turn around and come about with voter ID, they always want to make it look like it's racism in the poll because the Democrat Party sees that.
01:08:50.620Now, if they want to sit there and they want to say about the Second Amendment, this is why they can always run to the argument, Glenn, where you can't have an automatic.
01:09:02.140The liberals and the communists, what they did long ago, what they set up a chess board because I love chess.
01:09:08.640They put a pawn in a certain place where you can't bring your knight, you can't bring your bishop, you can't bring your queen out at all.
01:09:19.520You can't do that because that pawn sits right there.
01:09:22.440So they've been attacked the Second Amendment long ago when they passed in the 1934 when they said you couldn't have to talk to some machine gun.
01:09:30.420Well, they said, well, no, no, Americans couldn't be trusted.
01:09:32.780Then they kept finding ways to chip away with it.
01:09:35.540Glenn, on my page, I have to debate people all the time because I'm out of Jamal.
01:10:40.740Can we ratchet this back to the original stimulus for the conversation, which happened to be the comments by Vice President Pence and President Trump yesterday?
01:11:09.560But not because of any extreme sensibility to the Second Amendment, which I support.
01:11:16.860But there are also many other amendments that support the rights of other people that are to be protected against someone who has violated the Second Amendment, which this guy did.
01:11:30.640And if we were to look at the comments by Vice President Pence, he says, you know, go through the due process to the courts, and President Trump comes in and says, take the guns away.
01:11:46.880Well, in order for us to take the gun away from that man, we would have had to get a search warrant.
01:11:55.320Well, how do you get a search warrant?
01:11:57.260Do you go to court, or do you go to a judge, which is not a court officer, but it's not going to court?
01:12:05.100You can get a search warrant in a heartbeat, and that's, I think, where President Trump was coming from.
01:12:11.840You get that search warrant based on all of the red flags that came through for, what, two years previously with this guy?
01:12:19.080So if you're going to do that, President Trump is saying shortcut that system to the law, which is a search warrant, and not go through the due process, which takes a lot of time.
01:12:31.540No, there's a difference between a search warrant, because that is saying that I can violate the Fourth Amendment, and I can search because we have reason to believe there is something on the premises that will convict you of the crime,
01:12:46.980that we have enough evidence that we've brought to a judge to say, we think we can find this here.
01:12:52.020That's not to take it, to take your possessions away and violate another amendment.
01:12:58.760For the Second Amendment, you need another procedure, not just a judge.
01:13:03.440I think we have enough secret courts, quite honestly.
01:13:07.840Imagine going without food for weeks after a disaster.
01:13:11.760Finally, a FEMA truck rolls through your neighborhood and drops off a care package.
01:13:15.900Now, this is what happened recently during the hurricanes.
01:13:19.260They drop off mostly junk food, potato chips, chocolate bars, even expired MREs.
01:13:29.600And this is happening because in, I think it was the 18th of December, the FEMA came out and said, the head of FEMA, and he said, we don't have the resources anymore.
01:13:40.660The next real disaster, the American people have to be prepared.
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01:16:21.320That Sessions is using the Justice Department's Inspector General to investigate the potentially massive FISA abuse in the Russian investigation.
01:16:32.060Wait, it's disgraceful that we're using the Inspector General?
01:16:36.740Trump apparently didn't like that the Justice Department lawyers were not used for the probe instead of the IG.
01:16:44.740The Inspector General is looking into whether FISA standards were abused when the FBI first started investigating Trump and his campaign associates and their possible ties to Russia.
01:16:55.180The Nunez memo alleges that the FBI misled the FISA court to obtain a warrant to monitor Carter Page.
01:17:02.300Referring to the Inspector General, Trump wrote, isn't the IG an Obama guy?
01:17:06.740Later, House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy released his own statement defending the Inspector General.
01:17:14.080Gowdy says he, quote, has complete confidence in him and hope he has given the time, the resources, and the independence to complete his work.
01:17:24.440Trump has taken issue with Jeff Sessions on and off for almost the whole time since he's been in office.
01:17:29.360Rumors that Sessions will be fired seem to surface at least once a month.
01:17:33.640Usually Sessions keeps his mouth shut and absorbs the blow, but not this time.
01:17:37.740He issued a statement, not a tweet, a statement that said, we have initiated the appropriate process that will ensure complaints against this department will be fully and fairly acted upon if necessary.
01:17:49.880As long as I'm the Attorney General, I will continue to discharge my duties with integrity and honor.
01:17:55.140And this department will continue to do its work in a fair and impartial manner, according to the law and Constitution.
01:18:02.800I think that sounds like he might have been a little irritable when he wrote it.
01:18:08.500Maybe Sessions is finally getting tired of the abuse.
01:18:12.280Ever since Sessions recused himself heading the Russia collusion investigation, he has been Trump's punching bag.
01:18:18.520It's strange because Sessions has been a staunch Trump supporter from the very beginning.
01:18:24.640It's also weird because Sessions has even offered to resign, but Trump hasn't taken him up on it yet.
01:18:32.260At this point in the marathon Russia investigation, what President Trump's think what President Trump thinks he stands to gain by tweeting criticism of Sessions and the inspector general is anyone's guess.
01:18:44.820But regardless, it's just not helpful.
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01:19:01.660I know I thought we were going to announce something else.
01:19:04.740We have a couple of good things, but I thought we were going to announce something else today, an accomplishment.
01:19:09.260But it has led us down a deeper rabbit hole that we need to hold our cards close to our vest here.
01:19:14.820For a little while, but I want to welcome Tim Ballard.
01:19:17.600He is the CEO of the Nazarene Fund, founder and CEO of Operation Underground Railroad, and Dave Lopez, who's the director of operations for the Nazarene Fund.
01:19:55.400We are over 80% done getting them out.
01:19:59.240And these stories are amazing because we get to interview them, and we have an interview that we're going to show that you're going to be able to actually air in a couple days.
01:20:08.100But the people that are out and the ones that are ready to start talking, I mean, unbelievable stories.
01:20:14.020There's this case of one girl who was passed around, sold 16 times, different ISIS fighters, different ISIS commanders, just horrifying things.
01:20:24.440She actually tried to kill herself at one point, jumped out of a window.
01:20:28.560A slave trader who had mercy during one of these exchanges told her to go to this Christian group, which they ended up bringing her to the Nazarene Fund.
01:20:51.800And so now we have her, and with these other hundreds that we're bringing over, we're preparing the way for them to go into Australia, as you know, and we're so excited to take you out there and see them as they get into their new homes and hear these stories.
01:21:08.740Is it true that I've heard a television show is, and don't say the name of it because I don't know if it can be, but that there's a television show, a major television show that's going to be going to Australia to welcome them.
01:21:24.260Yeah, there's a major TV show that has heard about the Nazarene Fund and said, I want to know about this, and I want our audience to know about it.
01:21:44.920And they put his body and displayed it behind the church, ISIS did, and the Nazarene Fund went in and extracted this family in the dead of night, got them into safety.
01:21:55.360They're safe now, and they are about to make their trip into Australia.
01:21:59.820And so they're just all, it's just amazing.
01:22:04.340So we have, and I know this is radio, but you have footage from, we were, last time we were here, and I don't want to get into all the dark stuff, but we were talking about what ISIS is doing with organ harvesting, which is terrifying.
01:22:16.860And they're just snatching these kids.
01:22:19.680It's my understanding that this video, and you'll describe it on radio, but this video was taken because we were actually, we were doing reconnaissance on one of these makeshift hospitals, Dave.
01:22:33.900We were in the area looking for, we were having interviews with witnesses, people, eyewitnesses, accounts of organ harvesting.
01:22:41.720We're also looking into a few different areas where it was being done.
01:22:45.560That's the whole point of what's going on up and around Raqqa, and the devastation that you're going to see in this video is immense just from the war.
01:22:52.880And then you're going to also see what happens after this explosion goes off and how brave our people are.
01:23:22.600And they're watching this scene like, I hope they get out of here.
01:23:25.160This is not a safe place for them to be.
01:23:27.160Now, what you're going to now see is that they walk behind a building, and there's an explosion, an improvised explosive device that was just sitting there.
01:23:38.120It could have been a leftover, unexploded ordinance probably from the Syrian government that when the shelling was going on.