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00:03:57.200 Okay, I've got good news, and I have good news.

00:04:03.220 Where do you want to start, Stu?

00:04:05.560 Good news, Glenn.

00:04:06.780 I'm a big positive optimist.

00:04:08.820 I was hoping you were going to say the other choice, good news.

00:04:12.140 So I disappointed you asking for good news.

00:04:14.220 Yeah, let me ask it.

00:04:15.160 Let me just read a thread to you, okay?

00:04:19.080 Today was a sad yet empowering day at Chapel Hill.

00:04:22.720 What was happening at Chapel Hill?

00:04:24.640 North Carolina.

00:04:26.480 Campus.

00:04:27.200 I mean, probably, you know, basketball tryouts for next year.

00:04:31.960 When I walked to class, I saw a Palestinian flag raised on our quad flagpole

00:04:36.840 and was immediately upset that the act of these protesters had made.

00:04:42.560 I cannot say I'm totally educated on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

00:04:46.680 Well, join the club.

00:04:48.580 Nobody protesting is really up on it either.

00:04:51.400 Isn't that like a rite of passage?

00:04:53.120 You must not know anything about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

00:04:56.400 before you walk on.

00:04:57.540 But it upset me that my country's flag was disrespected

00:05:00.980 in order to advocate for another.

00:05:03.320 Shortly after, Chancellor Roberts came out with police officers

00:05:06.120 to hang the flag once again.

00:05:07.840 They were met with profanity, middle fingers, thrown bottles, rocks, and water.

00:05:12.240 Now, I don't know how you continue to be a student there if you're doing that.

00:05:19.020 I mean, I know these universities want the money,

00:05:23.180 but they're getting so many taxpayer dollars from us anyway,

00:05:26.480 they don't need the money.

00:05:28.040 I've been fascinated by the terminology.

00:05:30.140 These students that have broken into buildings and terrorized the campus

00:05:35.140 may face suspension?

00:05:37.560 May?

00:05:37.980 May, I know.

00:05:38.660 Like, it's auto expulsion.

00:05:41.440 Yeah, it would just be like, hey, guys, wrap it up.

00:05:44.260 Go home, because you're not a student here anymore.

00:05:47.280 Yeah, now you're just trespassing and you're not even a student.

00:05:49.480 Correct.

00:05:50.140 When the flag was raised once again,

00:05:51.980 the Greek community began singing the national anthem.

00:05:54.780 As the chancellor left, the quad erupted into chaos.

00:05:58.020 No, as protesters began removing the flag once again,

00:06:01.720 preparing this time to destroy it.

00:06:04.100 My fraternity brothers and I ran over to hold it up

00:06:07.280 in order to not let it touch the ground.

00:06:09.660 People began throwing water bottles at us, rocks, sticks,

00:06:12.940 calling us profane names.

00:06:14.640 We stood for an hour defending the flag so many fight to protect.

00:06:19.080 I mean, this is, I mean, in an insane way,

00:06:22.500 this is kind of like, you know, that generation's Iwo Jima.

00:06:25.440 You know, where they're holding up the flag

00:06:28.800 and they're being pelted with rocks and bottles.

00:06:32.600 My parents started a new life in the United States,

00:06:36.200 a country that has helped them flourish and raise two kids.

00:06:38.740 I grew up in a military community,

00:06:40.400 and I saw firsthand the sacrifices they will make.

00:06:43.860 I will not stand for the disrespect of these protesters.

00:06:46.700 Wait, wait, wait, I will not stand for the disrespect

00:06:51.160 these protesters for the sake of another country.

00:06:58.300 My LDOC, whatever that is, L-D-O-C,

00:07:01.780 will be memorable in knowing that my fraternity brothers

00:07:05.000 and I fought to keep the flag up.

00:07:08.260 But also, it will be memorable in knowing

00:07:11.320 that so many yearn to disrespect it.

00:07:14.420 Isn't that amazing?

00:07:15.000 Just amazing, I think.

00:07:19.000 Good news.

00:07:20.260 There are people on campuses that actually, you know,

00:07:24.760 don't like the disrespect and everything else that's going on.

00:07:28.500 I think that's good news.

00:07:29.620 Now, here's some more good news.

00:07:32.760 These guys are discrediting the left so rapidly.

00:07:38.200 80% of people are actually not for the Palestinian cause.

00:07:42.540 They're for the Israelis. 0.98

00:07:43.780 80% of Americans.

00:07:46.220 And Joe Biden and the Democrats are doing everything they can

00:07:50.100 to empower these guys and everything else.

00:07:52.340 It's not helping the Democrats.

00:07:55.060 Good news. 0.99

00:07:56.900 Let them burn themselves down. 0.99

00:07:59.640 Let them do it.

00:08:03.080 Because you get rare, rare moments of deep, deep satisfaction like this.

00:08:08.900 A clueless Columbia University protester who once worked for a lefty consulting firm hired

00:08:15.220 by Bill de Blasio demanded Tuesday that the school help get basic humanitarian aid such as food and water

00:08:23.840 to the anti-Israel rioters illegally occupying the campus building.

00:08:29.000 Like, could you please, please, could you help people have a glass of water?

00:08:35.220 Said the one woman.

00:08:37.700 Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill even if they disagree with you?

00:08:44.280 Have you heard this audio?

00:08:46.080 You have to hear this back and forth.

00:08:47.660 We have it.

00:08:48.100 Let's play it.

00:08:48.800 This is clip one.

00:08:49.560 Why should the university be obligated to provide food to people who have taken over a building?

00:08:58.060 Well, first of all, we're saying that they're obligated to provide food to students who pay for a meal plan here.

00:09:03.740 But you mentioned that there was a request that food and water be brought in.

00:09:07.120 Unless I misunderstood.

00:09:07.760 To allow it to be brought in.

00:09:09.000 I mean, well, I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation Columbia feels it has to its students.

00:09:15.060 Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill even if they disagree with you?

00:09:22.360 If the answer is no, then you should allow basic.

00:09:25.220 I mean, it's crazy to say because we're on an Ivy League campus, but this is like basic humanitarian aid we're asking for.

00:09:30.320 Like, could people please have a glass of water?

00:09:32.860 But they did put themselves in that very deliberately in that situation and in that position.

00:09:39.420 So it seems like you're sort of saying we want to be revolutionaries.

00:09:43.420 We want to take up this building.

00:09:45.080 Now, would you please bring us some food and water?

00:09:47.560 Nobody's asking them to bring anything.

00:09:49.580 We're asking them to not violently stop us from bringing in basic humanitarian aid.

00:09:54.960 They're stopping the delivery of food?

00:09:57.140 We are looking for a commitment from them that they will not stop us.

00:10:00.880 They're not even doing it.

00:10:02.980 Well, I don't know to what extent it has been attempted, but we're looking for a commitment.

00:10:09.200 I mean, that is, first of all, the reporters are fantastic.

00:10:11.760 You want to be revolutionaries and you want to take over a building, but then you also want them to bring you food.

00:10:16.720 Can somebody bring my Xbox?

00:10:18.320 This is so hard at night.

00:10:22.060 We don't have anything to play.

00:10:24.880 We don't have anything to do.

00:10:27.020 I want my blankie.

00:10:28.840 Now, I also really appreciated the guy with a half shirt.

00:10:32.680 Oh, yeah.

00:10:33.320 In the background?

00:10:33.900 Yeah, I love that.

00:10:35.200 It's very nice.

00:10:35.760 It's very nice.

00:10:36.320 I have the exact same shirt.

00:10:38.000 Do you?

00:10:38.280 Oh, yeah.

00:10:38.660 I look really good in it, too.

00:10:40.060 I love, too, that they make it – you see how much of this stuff is fake.

00:10:47.120 Like, these people are sitting in a building.

00:10:49.820 None of them are going to die of dehydration.

00:10:52.480 It's impossible.

00:10:53.720 It would never happen.

00:10:54.680 If they got to a place where they got to the point where they were like, oh, well, God, they're needing medical attention,

00:10:58.980 they would come in and take them out and bring them to an ambulance, and they would just get hydration.

00:11:03.920 Like, there's no chance of them dying.

00:11:06.400 Before you even get to the blindness stage, all you have to do is walk outside, go to, you know, the ambulance or the medical tent.

00:11:16.360 You know, they said in – I can't remember which story it was.

00:11:19.840 They were talking about campuses and how the campuses and the protesters have set up medical tents.

00:11:28.760 Now, I don't think so.

00:11:32.160 I don't think that they – really?

00:11:34.260 The protesters – these protesters?

00:11:36.480 Bring us some water!

00:11:38.300 These people?

00:11:40.240 You know, before we do anything, let's make sure we have medical aid and let's have a tent and some paramedics there.

00:11:46.400 They didn't do that.

00:11:47.620 Right.

00:11:48.060 Who did it?

00:11:48.820 Who did it?

00:11:49.420 Who did it?

00:11:49.900 Who did it?

00:11:50.400 And again, these are young, healthy college students. 0.97

00:11:57.160 What the hell do they need a medical tent for when they all rape each other, which is always how these things end? 1.00

00:12:02.840 Is that what we're talking about? 0.96

00:12:04.960 After the rapes, they want to have – 0.95

00:12:06.900 Please, America, please, conservatives, just let this go.

00:12:11.800 Let it go.

00:12:12.500 Just let it keep building.

00:12:13.160 Just let it keep building.

00:12:14.620 Let it keep building.

00:12:15.960 Oh.

00:12:17.200 You know, I'd like to –

00:12:18.380 Because I'm –

00:12:19.260 Just for entertainment purposes.

00:12:20.220 You know what my – oh, oh, please, for election purposes, too.

00:12:23.940 This is killing the Democrats.

00:12:26.660 Yeah.

00:12:26.880 This is killing the Democrats.

00:12:28.860 You want this?

00:12:30.280 Have at it.

00:12:31.740 You have the option.

00:12:32.680 It's right here for you.

00:12:34.000 If you'd like to have a society with no rules, no laws, no civilization, I mean, look at the aftermath of these things.

00:12:41.720 They've – they're destroying these places.

00:12:44.600 It's how every left-wing protest ends, right? 0.99

00:12:47.300 Garbage everywhere. 0.99

00:12:48.960 Victims everywhere. 0.97

00:12:50.120 I mean, it is a disgusting display that is so very typical of how these things go.

00:12:57.900 So, you know, it's really interesting.

00:12:59.580 If you look at the assassinations, you know, of presidents, always comes from one side.

00:13:05.440 Always really comes from one side.

00:13:07.640 You know, you have, well, Abraham Lincoln.

00:13:10.000 He certainly wasn't a Republican.

00:13:13.640 The assassin, you mean?

00:13:14.760 Yeah.

00:13:15.160 Yeah.

00:13:15.460 He was definitely not a Republican.

00:13:19.060 John Wilkes Booth.

00:13:20.000 Yes.

00:13:20.320 Not a big – he wasn't a MAGA guy, you don't think, at the time?

00:13:24.100 No.

00:13:24.500 No.

00:13:24.620 And then you have Garfield.

00:13:26.580 Was it Garfield was next?

00:13:28.840 Garfield was shot by one of his own supporters, the other president that I don't even remember what his name is, McKinley.

00:13:39.180 He was shot by a lefty, a communist.

00:13:44.620 Then who's next on the hit parade? 0.98

00:13:46.940 Well, then you have John F. Kennedy, who was shot either by the CIA or by a lefty.

00:13:57.140 Then you have RFK shot by a Palestinian. 1.00

00:14:03.040 Oh, I forgot the attempt on Harry Truman's life, which was two Palestinians that tried to shoot him. 0.72

00:14:11.300 Then Ford, you have Squeaky Fromm.

00:14:14.020 Come on.

00:14:14.760 You think she was conservative?

00:14:17.040 Lots of conservatives named Squeaky.

00:14:19.100 Right.

00:14:19.480 It's a big –

00:14:19.760 Right. 0.99

00:14:20.280 John Hinckley, he was just nuts. 0.85

00:14:23.980 But almost all of them come from the left. 0.82

00:14:26.820 Almost all of them come from the left.

00:14:29.840 What do you expect?

00:14:31.420 This leftist movement is all about destruction.

00:14:35.640 Because I'm torn on your take here on this, because while I agree that it is fun to watch the left eat their own, that is an entertaining prospect.

00:14:47.760 No, I'm offering this as a political strategy.

00:14:51.600 I do worry about long-term effects here.

00:14:58.580 I feel like we are going down a road that might not be easy to reverse.

00:15:04.140 So I am a little concerned.

00:15:05.840 Yes, but I would like the left to pay the price for this.

00:15:10.300 Why wouldn't I run in and rescue them?

00:15:12.380 The only bad part about this is the damage that's being done to Jews. 0.98

00:15:18.260 That's what I mean.

00:15:18.760 This is a big part of this.

00:15:22.100 It's not just some silly climate protest.

00:15:25.280 We're talking about a growing movement that is – and we have the polling – 20% of the population agrees with Hamas.

00:15:35.580 No, I know.

00:15:36.160 We are in a – that's a really serious problem for a nation to have.

00:15:40.820 So I am concerned about it, but I also see what you're saying, Aaron.

00:15:44.280 It will be entertaining to watch them eat their own.

00:15:46.280 So they defaced a statue of George Washington at George Washington University.

00:15:52.640 They spray-painted Genocidal Warmongering University. 0.80

00:15:58.120 Now, I don't know why you were attending that school if that's what you thought that school was.

00:16:05.960 You know, where are you going to go to school?

00:16:07.560 Well, I want to go to the genocidal war-mongering one.

00:16:12.140 What?

00:16:12.860 Yeah.

00:16:13.860 Okay.

00:16:14.340 Well, you probably shouldn't be on campus.

00:16:17.280 But they covered it with –

00:16:18.220 Do you think there are people that are actually going to the school?

00:16:19.960 I do think that there's a lot of these people that have nothing to do with the school.

00:16:22.900 Yeah, I think so, too.

00:16:23.680 These activists that you'd see at every other mostly peaceful bonfire.

00:16:30.560 They spray-painted and they put stickers all over the Statue of Washington.

00:16:36.380 End the genocide, free Palestine. 0.96

00:16:40.920 The students united will never be divided. 0.60

00:16:44.400 I mean, unless you're a little rumbly and you're tumbly.

00:16:46.520 And anti-fascist action.

00:16:52.000 Okay, right.

00:16:53.160 Oh, and then the pink stickers that read,

00:16:55.400 Rise, Love, Resist.

00:16:58.660 Oh, so inspiring.

00:17:00.800 I just love it.

00:17:01.720 That's why I really love that clip that we played just a minute ago,

00:17:04.140 is that this is such a playbook, right?

00:17:07.000 Like, this is such a checklist of things to say and things to demand

00:17:12.980 and stickers to put up and different protests to do.

00:17:16.020 Like, she's asked these questions and she's saying, like,

00:17:18.920 well, what we need is basic humanitarian aid.

00:17:21.580 That's what you say, like, in Gaza, right?

00:17:25.640 You know what I'm saying?

00:17:26.560 At Columbia University in the middle of Manhattan.

00:17:29.440 Right.

00:17:29.660 Like, that's not a legitimate way of talking about what's going on here.

00:17:35.900 But they constantly say the exact same things because they have this playbook

00:17:40.580 and they have this checklist and the media eats it up.

00:17:44.020 Well, if you're, I mean, if you're going to Columbia,

00:17:46.920 according to the oppressor-oppressed kind of, you know, battle,

00:17:52.780 you are the definition of the oppressor.

00:17:56.100 Okay?

00:17:57.320 You're the elite.

00:17:59.560 So I don't know what you're, I don't know what you're thinking about.

00:18:02.420 It's so weird.

00:18:02.940 And they all try to claim the opposite side of that.

00:18:05.380 You know, this is the same thing that happened with Ilhan Omar's kid,

00:18:08.280 you know, who came out and was saying she was homeless and starving. 0.71

00:18:11.980 It's like, your mom makes $200,000 a year just in Congress,

00:18:16.800 let alone what she makes from Maroon 5 music videos.

00:18:19.360 God only knows.

00:18:21.240 So, like, it's legitimately, like, what on earth are we talking about here?

00:18:25.440 None of this makes any sense.

00:18:26.960 And the media keeps taking it seriously.

00:18:28.940 Luckily, these reporters at this one press conference

00:18:31.480 stepped up and started asking basic questions

00:18:34.240 that any human being would ask in this situation.

00:18:36.480 So, wait a minute.

00:18:36.880 Well, you guys put yourself in there.

00:18:38.440 You can walk out at any moment.

00:18:40.440 There's a hot dog stand right there.

00:18:42.400 I think this is, I think this is great.

00:18:44.780 And it leads me to a statement I never, ever, ever thought I would make.

00:18:50.220 Wow.

00:18:52.140 These people make me like or have more respect for hippies.

00:18:58.460 Really?

00:18:59.240 Wow.

00:18:59.600 I mean, because you look at these guys and you're like,

00:19:01.540 I mean, at least the hippies, you know,

00:19:05.160 actually knew what they were standing for.

00:19:08.360 I mean, at least the hippies were, you know?

00:19:10.620 I mean, go back to the Weather Underground days, though.

00:19:12.660 I mean, they weren't all so, they weren't all the...

00:19:15.460 Those weren't hippies.

00:19:16.340 Those were Marxists.

00:19:18.640 Marxist hippies.

00:19:20.240 All right.

00:19:22.800 October 7th, the last year,

00:19:25.020 a powerful wake-up call for the world.

00:19:27.280 That has changed everything in history.

00:19:33.060 The hatred of God's chosen people never really dies out for some reason.

00:19:37.380 People of Israel are still reeling from that attack,

00:19:39.960 still working to put the pieces of their lives back together.

00:19:42.740 You can't live in the places where they were, you know, slaughtered.

00:19:46.160 The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is helping out because they still...

00:19:50.900 There are people that are, you know, dispossessed.

00:19:53.960 They don't have any place to live.

00:19:56.960 And, you know, that was a problem even before October 7th, but especially since then.

00:20:01.620 They do so much.

00:20:02.600 One of the most important things they're doing right now is trying to put up bomb shelters

00:20:06.500 for innocent civilians and especially children.

00:20:09.220 They're putting them up all of the bus stops, especially up north,

00:20:12.520 where the kids go to school and they're strategically, you know, targets.

00:20:18.660 They're putting these bomb shelters where they are needed the most.

00:20:22.440 And they cost about $15,000.

00:20:24.240 I'm asking you today, if you can, make a donation.

00:20:26.500 If you can donate the full amount, that's great, but any amount will help.

00:20:31.540 As God has compassion for all of us,

00:20:33.460 we must have compassion for our brothers and sisters in the Holy Land.

00:20:36.860 Please give as generously as you can.

00:20:40.040 Go to supportifcj.org.

00:20:42.580 That's supportifcj.org.

00:20:45.880 10 seconds, Station ID.

00:20:46.900 Hey, here's some really good news.

00:20:58.080 CBS News is reporting that several federal agencies have weighed various options

00:21:03.640 for how to resettle Palestinians from Gaza.

00:21:07.860 One of the proposals uses the decades-old United States Refugee Admissions Program

00:21:14.280 to welcome Palestinians with U.S. ties who have managed to escape Gaza

00:21:19.540 and entering neighboring Egypt.

00:21:22.760 Well, this is great.

00:21:24.840 I mean, because, I mean, you just look at the polls.

00:21:27.340 These are good people.

00:21:28.620 98% say their sense of pride as a Palestinian has increased because of October 7th.

00:21:36.280 75% of Palestinians directly say they supported October 7th, the terrorist attacks.

00:21:41.600 76% say they viewed Hamas, the terrorist organization, positively.

00:21:46.820 But 23% views Hamas negatively.

00:21:50.300 97% view Israel very negative.

00:21:53.660 97.6% view the U.S. very negative.

00:21:57.380 Let's bring them on in. 0.99

00:21:59.260 Let's bring them all on in.

00:22:01.460 Because just ask Jordan and Egypt and any other country that did this, 0.94

00:22:07.500 how well that worked out for them.

00:22:08.920 Oh, no, it works out.

00:22:10.920 They just melt into your society and they become good, solid citizens every single time.

00:22:17.840 Well, you can see it's true, Glenn, because, you know,

00:22:20.640 we're currently building a $300 million raft off the coast of Gaza

00:22:25.580 to give them food.

00:22:28.760 Because we know this is all about humanitarian aid, right?

00:22:32.120 They just want humanitarian aid.

00:22:33.220 And what's happened?

00:22:34.980 They've been firing mortars at it, which is a weird thing to do if it's really about getting aid.

00:22:41.160 It's almost like that's not what it's about at all.

00:22:44.480 By the way, speaking of that's not what it's about at all,

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00:22:56.820 just to process new Muslim and Palestinian migrants and immigrants.

00:23:05.240 That's good.

00:23:07.380 I mean, does Joe Biden have the finger on the pulse of America or what?

00:23:13.360 I mean, they are right in step with most, if not all, Americans.

00:23:19.600 Wow.

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00:24:54.160 well as we're talking about the universities and uh and you have the mayor of new york

00:25:03.620 coming on and saying we've got to protect our city there is an effort uh underway right now

00:25:11.860 to indoctrinate and radicalize our children no no yeah yeah apparently it is yeah college

00:25:21.220 campuses going on been going up for a while i guess who would have who would have seen that one

00:25:25.900 coming yeah and and joe biden wants you to know that if you are going to one of these universities

00:25:30.860 and destroying it it should be free you should not be paying back any of the loans that you took

00:25:36.580 out amen you know amen you don't want to see is he doing more today how just from a timing perspective

00:25:42.920 how can this possibly i i question whether it's real he has his finger on the pulse

00:25:48.980 president biden quote today my administration is approving 6.1 billion dollars in student debt

00:25:56.300 cancellation for 317 000 borrowers who attended the art institutes end quote wait i can't how is that

00:26:07.780 in the middle of this wait hold on just a second so i'm now paying for people who went to college

00:26:15.780 to study something that you you never make money on no one makes money as an artist no there's there

00:26:24.940 are there are four people in the world who can make money with art you happen to be one of them

00:26:29.780 by the way congratulations on that i think hunter biden is another yeah and then there's two weirdos

00:26:35.440 who live in like you know i don't know down in brooklyn right those i don't know who they are but

00:26:40.160 that's it no one makes money the whole you pay money to to go produce art that's why they have

00:26:46.680 businesses all over the country where you can go and paint and have wine like this is like people pay

00:26:53.100 to do this it's hard to make money if you go to the art institutes generally speaking you're the word

00:26:59.240 most commonly used before artist is starving

00:27:02.760 of course but let's bail them out let's bail them out let's bail them all out yeah and in the middle

00:27:11.820 of this where you have crazy uh left-wing nut jobs ripping up our campuses they're like they oh let me 0.99

00:27:17.500 just give them a 6.1 billion dollars and might i ask the question yet again glenn how where's this

00:27:23.960 money come from what do you mean you're forgiving 6.1 billion dollars was there a law that was passed

00:27:29.900 i missed the vote where was this what do you mean i'm approving what does that what does that mean

00:27:34.960 that is not our system of government i know we'll try this one new internal dhs data reveals 45 u.s

00:27:42.100 cities that hundreds of thousands of migrants have flown into via the biden administration's

00:27:46.920 controversial chnv mass parole program um it shows that the top 15 cities that migrants were flown into

00:27:57.120 on your tax dollar on our airlines which you got to take your shoes off they got to know i mean come

00:28:06.180 on over here yeah every third person we do a rectal exam um yeah and now now we're just flying these

00:28:14.400 people without knowing really who they are doing it in the middle of the night now these aren't the

00:28:19.240 people who came across the border these are the ones that the united states government went out to and

00:28:24.540 said hey is anybody a refugee uh if you're a refugee i got free tickets to america so the top 15 cities

00:28:34.200 uh miami florida 91 000 people were flown in um from january through august 2023 eight months

00:28:43.700 eight months miami florida 91 000 uh fort lauderdale which is the same city i mean it's miami fort

00:28:54.000 lauderdale right that's the yeah i mean i used to live in fort lauderdale it's it's you know you're

00:28:58.520 part of my it's a little bit of a drive to miami but it's one big it's like dallas fort worth it's a

00:29:02.820 couple cities that are close to each other okay so fort lauderdale got 60 000 uh and then new york

00:29:08.220 city's number three they got 14 000 oh wait a minute wow that's a that's quite a that's quite

00:29:13.600 a spread there so uh you know they get 150 000 just in miami fort lauderdale and then 14 000 in new

00:29:21.120 york houston and think about what eric adams has said oh i know like i mean they're overrunning our

00:29:27.340 communities we can't do anything and like half the cities on this list are in one state

00:29:33.320 and and new york city can't handle this yeah they got 14 000 then houston got uh 8 000 orlando got

00:29:42.900 6 000 so another florida los angeles three tampa another florida uh 3200 dallas texas uh is uh 2200

00:29:54.700 san francisco 2000 atlanta 2000 newark new jersey i mean oh people love newark if you are

00:30:03.280 if honestly if you're like in some other place i don't care if they're torturing you

00:30:08.160 and they say you want to come to the united states sure where am i headed newark new jersey now i'm

00:30:17.200 gonna hang out i'm good i'm good i'm good put me back on the rack it was false alarm false alarm i'm

00:30:23.240 not going anywhere but what how does this how does this how are these decisions made what do you know

00:30:29.460 like like if you're in if you are someone coming in you're an illegal immigrant you're on some on

00:30:33.780 this parole program and you come in they're like do they say hey here's your do they have like flyers

00:30:39.860 come visit orlando out there and you just like look through them until you pick one do they just assign

00:30:45.000 a city to you is it wherever your relatives are i don't know it's taking us forever to get just this

00:30:50.600 information i know it's true i mean it could be that just these people are like look i don't want to go

00:30:55.300 to newark so i'm gonna pick tampa or orlando or miami or fort lauderdale i mean because i would

00:31:02.860 my guess is they're like well do you know anyone who lives here yeah my brother lives in miami

00:31:07.380 and so they're flying them to miami i don't know but i mean regardless it's wouldn't it wouldn't the

00:31:13.420 opposite be obvious if you were honest here if you're the biden administration you keep telling

00:31:20.140 everyone that people in the south and the red states hate immigrants they're they're racist they're

00:31:26.480 you know uh xenophobes they don't have any programs for them so why would you continue to keep bringing

00:31:34.720 them to florida and texas why wouldn't you bring them to the cities that have all these wonderful

00:31:40.120 programs that you've passed why not well unless you're trying to make sure that you fly them into

00:31:46.520 a city like miami fort lauderdale that's usually run by democrats and uh you can have them vote but

00:31:54.480 and it's not run currently by democrats which is uh miami fort lauderdale miami is a republican mayor

00:32:00.600 remember he ran for he for a very short time ran for president well i don't remember that it was very

00:32:05.640 it was very short very short um but i mean unless you have enemies in red states and you realize that

00:32:14.280 what you're doing is a punishment right the same kind of thing that you know greg abbott did here

00:32:20.380 in texas and said like well well you know what we're going to send send these people up to you

00:32:23.480 guys you guys deal with them because we're being honest about it here this is a strain on your

00:32:28.140 society and so we shouldn't be responsible for them because we want them to be stopped before they

00:32:33.500 come in right all these other people are saying you're welcoming we're welcoming you here we want

00:32:38.440 you to come here you'll always be welcome in new york city i i don't know if that one's expired but

00:32:43.140 that's what eric adams was saying when he was running for election san francisco san francisco all

00:32:47.360 these things i mean we went through and found all the quotes from these mayors all of them

00:32:51.800 welcome with open arms illegal immigrants and invited them to come and now when they actually show up 1.00

00:32:59.180 they realize what the situation is you're taking a bunch of people who have no uh current path to earn

00:33:07.240 uh enough to to house themselves to feed themselves to give themselves basic humanitarian aid and then

00:33:15.480 you're going to put that on the state or local communities imagine imagine your city no matter how

00:33:23.140 large you are you have an influx of a hundred and fifty thousand people where are those jobs where are the

00:33:31.840 jobs for those people you don't you don't have a deficit of 150 000 uh uh you know employees

00:33:40.960 where do they work where are they working where are they working by the way a uh recent pew poll

00:33:48.020 found that nearly two-thirds of americans have little or no confidence that joe biden is physically

00:33:54.120 fit to be president that's two-thirds when you're talking about the immigration thing 80 percent of

00:34:01.820 america wants them to be sent back home okay they're starting to get real uh quite quite intense

00:34:11.820 on the immigration they that's republicans and democrats everybody knows that the economy

00:34:19.000 is in flames again two-thirds have little or no confidence that joe biden is even physically fit

00:34:27.100 to be president what the hell how is this so close how is this so close i just it doesn't it doesn't

00:34:37.020 make sense people are not making judgments based on what's in front of them no they're not i mean it's

00:34:41.320 just they're these partisan you know these partisan lanes you get in and it's impossible to escape them

00:34:47.740 for i don't know what 80 percent of people at this point i mean it's we'd like to think that it's some

00:34:52.480 rare thing but it's pretty much everybody who looks you know looks at this and and doesn't seem to be

00:34:58.720 spending any time making this decision decision was made for them years ago decades ago and they're just

00:35:05.160 going in and checking the boxes i mean yes he has mean tweets but uh you had a job we had a country

00:35:13.120 yeah but i know those mean tweets are really really horrible uh anyway it doesn't matter what i think

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00:39:31.720 do i tell you this nasa the nasa administrator has quote no idea why china is going to the far side of

00:39:56.660 the moon that is quote always in the dark oh dear first of all mr scientist uh can you explain

00:40:07.180 the dark side of the moon and the eclipse help me out on that one

00:40:11.040 okay so maybe china is going for a couple of reasons one is helium three it's it's unbelievable

00:40:24.820 uh just uh one space shuttle payload worth of helium three holds enough energy to power the united

00:40:32.980 states for a year okay one payload all right the second is a military base if 50 years from now you

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00:41:08.780 turn left and then turn left again and there's earth i mean what the hell this is a little too much

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00:41:32.480 cannot we're in trouble i don't know if you've heard this but we're in we're in trouble by the way 1.00

00:41:40.540 stew and i were just talking about uh malay uh in argentina he's been he's been cutting budgets and

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00:42:47.480 coming down quickly um if inflation stays up for more than four hours check with your doctor god

00:42:56.320 how much cialis is this government on

00:42:58.960 okay coming up next we have part two on alexander dugan with uh stephen hicks today's episode

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00:45:32.060 Welcome to the Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:45:45.960 Oh, I don't know, I didn't see, I didn't see Episode 1, so am I gonna understand it? Do I have to watch Episode 1 to be able to understand Episode 2? No, you really don't.

00:45:55.780 Today is Episode 2 on Alexander Dugan. Alexander Dugan is a, quote, philosopher, and a quite well-known philosopher in Russia.

00:46:07.920 And the rest of the world, if people are paying attention, you will see that Alexander Dugan is a very, very dangerous person.

00:46:16.100 He believes a few things. Capitalism is evil, in fact, he says it's a virus.

00:46:21.260 The power of the individual to choose, which he believes is modern liberalism.

00:46:27.700 The opportunity for you to be you and make your own choices, that also has to be destroyed.

00:46:35.540 He believes in fascism without any compromise.

00:46:40.180 He believes the fascists of the 20th century, like Mussolini, compromise too much.

00:46:48.280 Okay, okay, okay, that sounds great.

00:46:52.040 But he's also got a darker side.

00:46:55.500 And we're gonna touch on that, his mixing of politics and religion, Christianity, the end of the world.

00:47:04.160 He's the guy who has brought Russia and Iran together in a kind of an unholy marriage. 1.00

00:47:12.420 And we talk about that with Stephen Hicks, the Rockford University philosophy professor

00:47:17.520 and Center for Ethics and Entrepreneurship executive director Stephen Hicks joins us next.

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00:48:46.200 Welcome back to the program, Professor Stephen Hicks.

00:48:49.700 How are you, sir?

00:48:51.280 Well, glad to be back.

00:48:52.940 Thanks for having me.

00:48:53.900 Thank you.

00:48:54.500 So yesterday we talked kind of about the political side of Alexander Dugan and why he is dangerous.

00:49:03.280 Today I want to talk about his mixing of religion and what he believes about the Russian Empire and what he believes about the end of the world.

00:49:16.300 Hmm.

00:49:17.400 Yeah.

00:49:18.360 I think the first big question is going to be a philosophical question.

00:49:21.660 He is a philosopher.

00:49:22.840 He's also a political strategist.

00:49:25.840 And the question always is when religion comes up is what does this person think the nature of religion is?

00:49:34.640 Now, clearly he's endorsing religion.

00:49:37.600 But to get inside his head, there's always a question, does he think the religion is true, that his particular package of religion accurately is the way the world is?

00:49:48.680 There's a certain kind of God or gods and spiritual forces, and they provide moral guidance.

00:49:53.580 And we need to take those into account in our personal lives and use them for politics.

00:49:58.160 So does he think religion is a matter of truth?

00:50:02.020 And the second thing for many philosophers and political strategists is not that they think that religion is true, but they think that it is useful, that it pushes people's psychological buttons, that it's useful as a social pacifying, as a social mobilizing force.

00:50:21.420 And that the philosopher does not think that it's true per se, but that it's necessary or that it's pragmatically functional in order to achieve certain social and political ends.

00:50:33.560 So there's a long history of philosophers and political strategists who are actually atheist or agnostic, but nonetheless, they are endorsing religion strongly.

00:50:43.800 Correct. So I would put Dugan, I'm guessing Dugan is in the second category that he looks at it as useful.

00:50:52.380 I just don't get a sense that he actually buys into this stuff, or does he?

00:50:56.740 No, I think that's right. Now, he was baptized in the Eastern or the Russian Orthodox Church when he was a child.

00:51:02.800 But when I read through Dugan and I listen to him, I don't get the sense that he is personally a true believer.

00:51:11.380 So I think that for him, it is a matter of saying for the Russians in particular, with their religious history and the on average low state of, this sounds like an insult,

00:51:25.960 but the low state of intellectual accomplishment among the broad Russian masses,

00:51:31.480 and also the particular nature of Eastern Orthodox and Russian Orthodox in particular, of taking seriously the submission element and the unthinking obedience to higher authority,

00:51:47.340 that that is baked into Russia's historical religious culture.

00:51:52.160 And so what one needs as a political strategist, if you're trying to mobilize all of Russia for a certain end, is going to be a certain kind of religion. 0.70

00:52:02.740 You can't just, for example, say, hey, everybody be rational, be scientific, be technological, think of yourself as a free agent entrepreneur and so forth.

00:52:12.220 That kind of ideology is not going to work for Russia.

00:52:15.320 So you need to use a certain kind of unifying force, and that's going to be a certain kind of religion.

00:52:22.160 So I do think that primarily the religion for Dugan is pragmatic, not a matter of truth.

00:52:29.260 Now, when you say that, though, he seems to be a big proponent of the end of days.

00:52:37.040 Bring Jesus back. Let's wash the world in blood. 0.96

00:52:40.240 Let's, you know, let's work with the Muslims and especially the Shiite Twelvers in Iran, because they believe the same thing. 0.99

00:52:47.420 We can hasten the return of the promised one so we can get to work on a new world order.

00:52:51.760 Does he believe that?

00:52:54.080 And that also is partly outreach to Western advocates of some Western advocates of religion, right, who find those themes attractive as well.

00:53:04.420 Now, at the same time, there are those who advocate religion because it's true, those who advocate it because it's pragmatic.

00:53:10.400 I think there's another element that's important for Dugan, and that, I think, is that religion often serves aesthetic functions, that people are not necessarily believing that it's true, but they like the idea of the occult, the mysterious, the slightly strange.

00:53:28.400 You know, they like kind of astrological significance and all of the magic symbols and magic numbers.

00:53:37.960 And an important part of Dugan's personal history is that when he was in his 20s, he was extraordinarily attracted to and into all kinds of occult, neo-pagan religions.

00:53:50.400 What a surprise.

00:53:51.400 What a surprise.

00:53:53.680 Sorry?

00:53:54.460 What a surprise.

00:53:56.160 Well, right.

00:53:57.460 And so, in this case, almost always the attraction, again, is not truth or promise, but it's a deeply personal aesthetic.

00:54:05.140 They like the feeling of being in a certain kind of drama, a certain kind of conflict and imagining themselves.

00:54:14.660 So, if you think about why we play the video games, why we go to the movies and we get swept up in a world that we know is an artificial world, but we get the psychic experience of being in this great drama of good guys versus bad guys.

00:54:33.580 The fate of the world is at stake, and literally in video games, you can blow the world up, or in Hollywood movies, the world can be blown up or be on the brink of Armageddon, and it's very, very exciting to you personally.

00:54:49.200 So, it is, I think, have you read Hitler's Monsters?

00:54:54.840 No.

00:54:55.540 Oh, you should.

00:54:56.440 You would love it.

00:54:57.640 It's all about, it's deep, deep research.

00:55:00.340 It's much more of a scholarly read on all of the elements that led to Hitler and that Hitler then used.

00:55:13.680 And it's very reminiscent of what you were just saying about the mysticism and the cult and the darkness of it and the feeling that maybe there's extra magic powers out there.

00:55:25.520 Exactly, exactly.

00:55:27.780 So, when we turn to Dugan, I think it's got to be then a mix of those.

00:55:34.000 Personally, for him, he likes that world.

00:55:36.460 He likes the drama of it.

00:55:37.980 But at the same time, he's largely a clear-eyed, geopolitical, strategic philosopher as well.

00:55:45.540 And he recognizes the psychological and the social power that religion has and sees it as a necessary tool for his ambitions there.

00:55:56.820 So, before we go to his work in the Middle East, which I think is frightening, when he says that we are the great Satan…

00:56:06.540 We being the U.S.

00:56:09.620 The U.S.

00:56:10.300 Or the West more broadly, yes.

00:56:14.460 Is he just using that language to speak to those who are religious in nature?

00:56:22.800 Does he believe that?

00:56:24.900 No, I think in that case, it's both.

00:56:27.440 For him personally, he does see liberalism, the West, and then if you scale out the entire philosophical tradition that draws upon the Greek and Roman inheritance, he does think of that as false and as immoral.

00:56:44.820 But I do think when he uses the Satan language, it's slightly metaphorical for him personally.

00:56:49.500 But as a propaganda message, when you are trying to rally the troops, so to speak, to speak to the broad masses of Russians, you are using language that they understand.

00:57:02.540 And those people are largely religious in a certain sort, and they understand the world in a great dualistic good versus evil struggle.

00:57:11.180 And it's useful for them to get them fired up, to have the enemy be identified, not just in abstract philosophical terms as sinful, as evil, as decadent, and so forth, but in more personalized terms.

00:57:28.080 They are the tool of Satan or the embodiment of Satan.

00:57:31.960 So let's go to what his work in the Middle East, and in particular, Iran.

00:57:41.020 You know, I've watched the 12ers, the people who believe in the 12th, the mom's going to crawl out of a well, and yada, yada.

00:57:48.080 And many of the leaders, I know Mahmoud Ahmadinejad started every speech and ended every speech with,

00:57:55.320 Oh Allah, give me the courage to hasten the return of the promised one.

00:58:00.700 That is exactly the language of Alexander Dugan.

00:58:06.100 What's the chicken and what's the egg, and what do they both have in common?

00:58:09.980 So you can approach this historically and say that all of the, you know, the three great Western religions have a common source.

00:58:19.320 And that historically, this has been a recurring deep theme in all three of them, but it comes out in differentiated forms.

00:58:28.220 So, you know, some Western Christians have it, some versions of Judaism have it, many versions of contemporary and historical Islam have it as well.

00:58:38.220 So what is, you use the chicken and egg metaphor.

00:58:43.140 So what is the, another metaphor is, is this just to say, what is the historical mother load that is redounding down through the ages?

00:58:54.120 And Dugan is just currently tapping into it.

00:58:56.860 So what do they have in common, Russia and Iran?

00:59:01.860 Well, both have a common enemy.

00:59:06.220 So the, the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

00:59:09.380 In this case, the Iranians will also say the West is the great Senate, Satan, it's enemy number one. 0.89

00:59:16.200 And Dugan and from his Russian perspective wants to say the same thing.

00:59:22.000 So then you make a strategic decision right now, ethnically and religiously, Iran and Russia are enemies, but what's the more important enemy?

00:59:35.060 And from both of their perspective, the more important enemy is the West, economically, politically, culturally, and so forth.

00:59:42.320 So you're willing to overlook important ethnic differences and important religious differences to concentrate on the more pressing battle, which is to defeat the West right now. 0.87

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01:01:35.520 So when Alexander Dugan, he relates to NATO as the people of the sea, if I'm not mistaken, right?

01:01:47.340 Sure.

01:01:47.780 That's a metaphor he uses.

01:01:48.920 Yeah.

01:01:49.240 And when he's talking about that, he's talking about NATO, and he believes NATO, these countries need to be destroyed.

01:01:57.620 But he talks about a couple of things.

01:02:00.180 One, that modernity is bad.

01:02:02.980 When he says that, I take it as he means anything after the Enlightenment.

01:02:09.420 Yeah, for sure.

01:02:12.800 Now, here, the important thing, I think, is to see him as a philosopher.

01:02:19.240 And so when you are scaling back to language like modernity, you are talking in big picture, centuries-long development.

01:02:27.000 So the development of the modern world, basically the last 500 years, and this is kind of just a standard thing.

01:02:34.720 Once Columbus crossed the ocean, the generation of Michelangelo and Leonardo and Martin Luther, we started doing religion and art and understanding the world in dramatically different ways.

01:02:47.080 And then you tell the story that that flowers in the Enlightenment of the late 1600s, 1700s, and so on, science and technology and industrial revolution and the rights of man and then the rights of women, the abolishing of slavery, ideas of liberty and equality, the birth of the United States, and so forth.

01:03:05.200 All of that is modernity, and from a philosophical perspective that Dugan is adopting, that was a giant, giant mistake, fundamentally flawed in its ideology, fundamentally flawed in its practice and its institution.

01:03:20.080 So, in that sense, he is a pre-modernist.

01:03:23.480 We have to go back and resuscitate the essential worldview that was in place in modernity prior to the Enlightenment.

01:03:33.900 Which was what?

01:03:35.060 What is he asking for or pushing for?

01:03:38.400 What would the world look like?

01:03:40.920 Well, he valorizes the medieval era, particularly the medieval era of Russia.

01:03:48.980 So people were religious, intensely religious, in a submissive, obedient, hierarchical fashion.

01:03:56.720 They had, this is valorization, wise leadership that understood its people, understood what God wanted for its people.

01:04:08.320 And in a sometimes brutal world, of course, was willing to fight off the evil enemies in order to protect the people and to advance God's way in the world.

01:04:19.440 And broadly speaking, that's the language that Dugan is adopting.

01:04:23.920 Now, here he is a disciple, philosophically, of Martin Heidegger.

01:04:28.340 So we have to talk at some point about Martin Heidegger, one of the two or three most important philosophers of the 20th century.

01:04:35.760 And Dugan wrote a whole book on Heidegger, and I think the disciple language is correct.

01:04:43.000 So, in Heidegger, if I'm not mistaken, he was one of the more instrumental philosophers that helped give us Nazi Germany. 0.96

01:04:50.920 Well, yes and no.

01:04:55.660 Heidegger, by the time we get to the late 1920s, is recognized as the most significant philosopher, rather, in Germany.

01:05:05.020 And Germany was then the most accomplished intellectual and philosophical nation.

01:05:09.660 So that really is saying a lot.

01:05:12.500 But already, by the time you get to the mid to the late 1920s, national socialism ideologically is worked out.

01:05:19.460 The party is in place.

01:05:21.260 It's making increasing strides in Weimar Germany, getting parliamentary representation in the Reichstag and so forth.

01:05:29.980 And so Heidegger joins in.

01:05:32.800 He philosophically is agreeing with the intellectuals who are developing the ideology of national socialism.

01:05:41.680 So Moeller, Vandenbroek, Carl Schmitt, and others.

01:05:45.920 You know, brilliant, brilliant guys.

01:05:47.820 Again, PhDs in various disciplines.

01:05:49.860 And so Heidegger joins in.

01:05:53.320 He does also join the Nazi party.

01:05:57.180 Right.

01:05:58.820 And then he becomes the director, which is basically the head guy at his university, and proceeds to try to turn the university into a vehicle for national socialist ideals in the educational space.

01:06:14.080 All right.

01:06:14.560 Stephen, hang on just a second.

01:06:16.300 We've got to take a quick break.

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01:07:40.040 So Alexander Dugan is a philosopher and a political strategist in Russia.

01:08:01.060 Tucker Carlson just did an interview with him.

01:08:03.160 It lasted about 20 minutes, and he didn't get to any of the things other than what Dugan is very good at, is recognizing the problems that we are having.

01:08:12.600 And so he makes a compelling case of what is wrong with society and the world, and it is his solution that is really, really dangerous.

01:08:23.240 His solution is fascism without compromise, but also this religious drumbeat behind him is exactly the kind of things that I've been warning about here in the United States that really fit into Christian nationalism. 0.90

01:08:42.280 His kind of philosophy, and Stephen, I'd like to know if you believe this too, his philosophy is the dangerous Christian nationalism. 1.00

01:08:50.340 Well, yeah, I think that's fair.

01:08:54.180 At a higher level of abstraction, if you get away from the differences between Protestants and Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, then, yes, there's a common theme at work there.

01:09:06.800 It's a nationalism, although Dugan does want to broaden that to more of a pan-Eurasianism.

01:09:14.960 He's willing to overlook certain ethnic differences in order to create the empire.

01:09:19.440 But the same distrust of the individual, of rationality, science, technology, democratic, republican institutions, separation of church and state, they do share that as a common target.

01:09:33.840 Professor, I know a lot of people, and I've been hearing Glenn talk about Dugan for years and years and years and years, and endlessly.

01:09:42.960 And, you know, if you look past the surface, I think it's pretty clear this guy is not a good guy.

01:09:48.940 The question, I guess, a lot of people would have is, why does this matter to us?

01:09:52.920 This is a guy who's, you know, maybe advising Vladimir Putin.

01:09:55.780 Obviously, we know there are international geopolitical concerns there, but is this a pressing interest for the everyday American?

01:10:04.820 Well, yes, I think so.

01:10:06.180 Aside from the geopolitical issues, which, of course, are huge, what we find, though, is Dugan's critique of what's going on in the West is picked up by a significant number of people inside the West.

01:10:20.420 So they are offering the same kind of Dugan-esque identification of our problems and variations on the same kinds of solutions.

01:10:31.300 And so in that sense, Dugan, as a philosopher, is operating at the right level of generality and abstraction for us to see echoes of what kinds of debates and discussions we're having internally.

01:10:42.760 So, yes, he matters. He matters in that sense.

01:10:46.220 So here, though, I would say that I don't think he gets the diagnosis of what's going on in the West correct.

01:10:52.580 Obviously, he's picking up on some of the some of the symptoms.

01:10:55.700 The themes, yeah.

01:10:57.180 Yeah, his diagnosis is correct. 0.82

01:10:59.780 What he wants to argue is that there's an internal kind of nihilism in the modern Western Enlightenment liberal project and so forth.

01:11:09.480 And then what happens is that that nihilism comes out as each generation goes on.

01:11:16.020 So there's a decline trajectory from the Enlightenment to the various nihilistic elements that we that we see going on right here.

01:11:24.580 So what he wants to say is the West's core problem is a kind of secularism.

01:11:30.260 It's the liberal freedom.

01:11:32.860 It's the egalitarian impulse of saying that everybody's going to have the same equal political rights, perhaps other rights and so forth and so on.

01:11:43.160 And I think that is just that's just wrong.

01:11:45.840 When we look at the people we are dealing with right now, it's where all of the people wearing kefayas and promoting Hamas and Islamism in various sorts. 0.59

01:11:58.180 These are not secular people.

01:11:59.960 These are old fashioned but modernized religious people.

01:12:05.240 So it's a competitor religion that has found a way to strategize itself and become especially important inside the West. 0.97

01:12:13.720 So the question is not how did liberalism spawn all of these people or create all of these people, but how did this pre-modern competitor religion that is now increasingly violent come to have such a stature inside the United States?

01:12:29.280 The other element is if you're not particularly focused on the religious elements, but all of the ethnic hatreds, you know, the people who hate America or who hate the West for religious reasons and that they are pan-Arab or they want to bring back the greatness of Persia or whatever, if it's an ethnic rising up that we are seeing.

01:12:53.640 I know there's a significant amount of that, people who are less religious, but they hate people for racial reasons.

01:12:59.700 They hate people for inside the West for ethnic reasons.

01:13:03.820 But again, that's not a consequence of liberalism.

01:13:06.540 That is people who are from the get-go anti-liberalism.

01:13:12.460 Some says treat people as individuals, respect their rights, tolerate certain sorts of differences.

01:13:18.260 But these are people from the get-go who are intolerant, who think of themselves as members of an ethnic collective, rather, and are just resuscitating old-style ethnic hatreds.

01:13:30.140 So what we are facing right now is resurgent religiosity of a certain sort and resurgent intolerant ethnic hatreds and racial hatreds of a certain sort.

01:13:43.040 So the proper diagnosis is going to be to say, not how did liberalism create these people, but how did all of these old-style anti-liberalisms, illiberalisms, come back in what we think of as modern Western society?

01:14:00.000 So what do people have to be aware of?

01:14:04.760 Because we're talking about a philosopher that really nobody, hardly anybody even knows about, but I think his tentacles run very, very deep here.

01:14:14.100 The guy who is the head of the Nazi party, I believe his wife is the English translator for Dugan here in the West. 0.53

01:14:23.700 But what are the things that we should be on the lookout for that is an earmark of trouble?

01:14:37.240 Well, partly you'll pick this up just on the rhetorical level.

01:14:43.100 If you have people who are not interested in civil debate and discussion, and they use all of the standard tactics to shut discussion down,

01:14:50.400 that's always going to be an earmark of something to look for.

01:14:55.040 If you're interested more philosophically, then you start looking for the buzzwords about, as we were starting to talk about,

01:15:04.060 the enlightenment, modernity, attitudes toward the individual.

01:15:08.720 Is the person in favor of separating church and state?

01:15:12.580 Does the person believe that slavery is wrong or not?

01:15:18.420 Or is he more tolerant of hierarchical and thinking about people in submission form and so forth?

01:15:24.620 So all of those are going to be the philosophical markers that we need to be in danger of.

01:15:30.180 So what we actually need are two things.

01:15:32.420 One is to recognize that we've been lazy in the last generation, since the fall of the Soviet Union,

01:15:39.520 in articulating, making attractive, even making sexy, the modern enlightenment project.

01:15:47.220 Respect for the individual, universality of rights, respecting rationality, the scientific and technological project, and so forth.

01:15:55.560 Seeing ourselves as the force of progress in the future, as the good guys.

01:16:00.480 We've been lazy in articulating that positively, and that has set us up for not being articulate in responding to Dugan-type critiques

01:16:10.740 and other variations that are coming from the woke left, the postmoderns, the critical theorists, and so forth.

01:16:16.820 There's a whole battery of them.

01:16:19.640 I think an important point here is that young people especially, they want an ideal.

01:16:24.700 They want their lives to be meaningful.

01:16:27.480 And when we look at the young people who are wearing kathayas, they're looking for meaning.

01:16:32.380 They're looking for significance.

01:16:34.180 If we've not provided the modern enlightenment, the liberal, democratic, republican, whatever we want to call it,

01:16:41.760 freedom-oriented philosophy, and made that attractive to young people,

01:16:45.820 then of course they're going to adopt all sorts of weird, irrational alternatives.

01:16:50.220 And that's one of the big problems right there.

01:16:52.120 The other thing I would say is that we've been naive in not being aware of our enemy.

01:16:59.220 You say Dugan's tentacles run deep.

01:17:01.940 That might be a good metaphor, but I think the way I think of it is that Dugan himself is a symptom.

01:17:07.800 He's a variant on the same sort of deeper causes.

01:17:11.920 So when Dugan, for example, declares himself a disciple of Martin Heidegger,

01:17:17.680 it's also important to note that Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, and the postmodern left,

01:17:24.100 all of whom are atheist and anti-Western, anti-enlightenment,

01:17:28.900 they also are disciples of Martin Heidegger, for example.

01:17:33.760 So in one way, the deeper battle is a philosophical battle.

01:17:37.620 I mean, Foucault's an atheist.

01:17:38.800 Dugan is kind of religious, but they are coming from the same source.

01:17:43.640 And we need to be much more up to speed on the dangerous 20th century philosophers.

01:17:49.360 So tell me about Heidegger a little bit.

01:17:50.980 What was it that he believed that made him stand out?

01:17:55.320 Well, part of it is just that the man was brilliant.

01:17:58.880 Now, when he was young, he was deeply religious.

01:18:01.560 He was born into a Catholic family.

01:18:04.160 He actually started off going to seminary school.

01:18:06.460 He was training to be a Catholic priest, but as the story goes, he lost faith.

01:18:12.680 And so he could not believe in a personal God anymore.

01:18:18.680 Nonetheless, that entire kind of eschatological,

01:18:23.040 the entire religious framework of an old-style Catholicism was deep in Heidegger.

01:18:29.840 And so this is much too quick, but what he did was cast that deeply Catholic Christian eschatology,

01:18:39.600 ideology, religious framework in more secular terms,

01:18:44.000 that we are alienated from true reality that is higher, that is more transcendent,

01:18:50.060 that we're too caught up in our individual egos and the pettiness of day-to-day life.

01:18:55.940 We feel guilty, we feel a deep sense of sinfulness, but because of modernity,

01:19:02.880 we are kind of trapped in all of the gadgets and pettiness of day-to-day concerns.

01:19:08.260 And so what we need to do is tap into our emotions of guilt, of alienation,

01:19:14.120 and not be too rational about it, but find some way to reconnect with this higher transcendent being.

01:19:21.560 So that religious framework, what Heidegger did brilliantly was develop a new philosophical language

01:19:28.080 to make that palatable for the philosophical world.

01:19:32.060 I only got about 90 seconds.

01:19:35.020 Any thoughts on the Palestinian protest as a professor on campus?

01:19:40.020 Any thoughts on what that is, where it's going?

01:19:43.440 Absolutely embarrassed as a professional, as an academic, someone who's made his career inside the academic world

01:19:49.960 that now that I'm getting a little bit older, that rather than the academic world being a shining star

01:19:56.640 of intellectual daring and courage and discovering new and people committed to a civil discourse

01:20:03.080 and deep intellectual debate, that at our elite universities, our students and many of our faculties 0.97

01:20:10.600 are basically barbarians, ignorant of history, ignorant of ideas, committed to the worst variations 0.95

01:20:18.700 of illiberal thought and practice, and basically destroying the academic world from the inside. 0.98

01:20:26.880 So we are reaping the fruits, the bitter fruits, the sour fruits of the mainstream 20th century philosophy

01:20:38.500 and intellectual circles, and that's terribly distressing.

01:20:42.360 Still have hope that it's going to end well?

01:20:45.180 Well, I am cautiously optimistic.

01:20:47.440 Most of us didn't know that we had a fight on our hands.

01:20:50.080 I would say most of us being Americans, Westerners by large, until about 2015, so eight, nine years ago.

01:20:56.420 But at least now, we're all starting to get up to speed.

01:20:59.500 We're aware that there's something sickly, deeply wrong inside intellectual life,

01:21:04.740 and particularly academic, and we're starting to learn and organize ourselves in somewhat reactionary form,

01:21:12.740 but figuring out what we need to do to combat the problems.

01:21:16.560 Stephen Hicks, thank you so much.

01:21:17.620 Really appreciate it.

01:21:18.560 God bless.

01:21:19.400 All right.

01:21:19.820 Pleasure.

01:21:20.360 Thanks.

01:21:20.860 You bet.

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01:23:09.520 A few weeks ago, after the giant bill passed in the House, I got a call from Thomas Massey.

01:23:17.100 He said, Glenn, I just want you to know that Marjorie Taylor Greene has put in the hopper

01:23:22.880 a motion to, what is it, dismiss or remove the speaker.

01:23:29.800 And I said, oh, geez.

01:23:33.000 And he said, I think it's a good reason.

01:23:34.820 I think, you know, we have good reason to do it.

01:23:37.300 And I said, well, I don't know, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

01:23:40.720 Thomas is, I think, a very honest guy, dedicated to his ideals and his principles.

01:23:49.480 And so he's moving forward with this.

01:23:51.740 Now, people say this is going to make Hakeem Jeffries and those on the left, this will be the most powerful Democratic Congress or the most powerful minority that Congress has ever seen.

01:24:09.160 I mean, I think it was a mistake to go down the Johnson Road now in retrospect. 0.99

01:24:18.980 What a foolish, foolish mistake. 0.99

01:24:20.620 He seems to have been kind of a cloaked figure. 1.00

01:24:24.640 I mean, maybe he's in an impossible spot, as was McCarthy.

01:24:30.280 And if I remember right, Massey supported McCarthy staying, if I remember right.

01:24:35.560 So it's an interesting thing.

01:24:37.420 But the problem with this situation now is that Johnson owes his political life to Democrats.

01:24:43.100 What does that mean?

01:24:44.180 Does that improve the bills that are going through?

01:24:47.020 Does it improve where he stands?

01:24:48.360 I don't know.

01:24:49.680 I don't know.

01:24:50.580 We'll see.

01:24:51.060 I mean, Thomas is a smart guy.

01:24:52.200 So Thomas is joining us next and also in about a half hour, Neil Oliver.

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01:26:51.900 Well, it looks like Thomas Massey and Marjorie Deller Green are going to try to oust Mike Johnson as Speaker of the House.

01:27:07.060 Now, Akeem Jeffery says, well, we're all going to rally behind him.

01:27:11.460 And why wouldn't they?

01:27:12.960 He is a disaster as a speaker for what we thought we were getting.

01:27:19.100 But if this is going to fail, why do this?

01:27:25.220 Every time you do something like this, we're going to push him further and further into the arms of the Democrats,

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01:27:34.940 And why is Thomas Massey insisting on doing this?

01:27:38.960 Well, Thomas will answer that question in 60 seconds.

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01:29:02.520 You can say a lot of things about Thomas Massey.

01:29:05.100 Some of true, some of false.

01:29:06.420 But the one thing that is absolutely true, he stands on his own principles.

01:29:10.500 And he is unwavering in those principles.

01:29:14.500 He joins us now from the great state of Kentucky, Republican Representative Thomas Massey.

01:29:21.780 Hello, Thomas.

01:29:23.040 How are you doing, Glenn?

01:29:24.160 I'm very good.

01:29:24.820 I'm very good.

01:29:25.800 I don't understand this whole Mike Johnson thing as Speaker of the House.

01:29:31.240 I don't understand what happened to him, how we went so wrong.

01:29:36.580 You know, people are saying that, oh, this has been a scam forever.

01:29:40.340 He's been, you know, a rhino and just in hiding.

01:29:44.160 And now, getting rid of him at this point, what good is that going to do?

01:29:48.740 Or even moving for this?

01:29:50.260 Because do you have the numbers to do it?

01:29:54.380 Great questions.

01:29:55.460 Let me talk about how we got to where we are.

01:29:58.080 Okay.

01:29:58.300 So Mike Johnson has betrayed us three times, big betrayals.

01:30:03.980 He did an omnibus bill that spends more than Nancy Pelosi's omnibus bills did.

01:30:08.440 And he gave the FBI a brand new building in that omnibus bill.

01:30:11.700 And he didn't give us time to read it.

01:30:13.420 He gave up on doing 12 separate bills.

01:30:15.960 That was the first betrayal.

01:30:17.820 Second betrayal, FISA.

01:30:19.900 This is the spying program that's been used to surveil Americans without a warrant.

01:30:25.180 He cast the deciding vote on whether to have warrants or not.

01:30:29.860 And he voted against warrants.

01:30:31.480 This is against what he stood for when he was on the Judiciary Committee that I serve on with Jim Jordan.

01:30:38.320 So something has changed there.

01:30:40.240 He said he spent time in a skiff that changed his mind.

01:30:43.100 Guess what, Glenn?

01:30:43.720 I don't know if your listeners know this.

01:30:45.260 I spent three and a half hours in the same skiff with him, getting briefed by CIA, NSA, DOD, FBI, and DNI, and a FISA judge.

01:30:54.620 And in three and a half hours, they didn't give us a specific example, not one, of how spying on Americans without a warrant has helped them stop terrorism.

01:31:05.280 They gave hypotheticals, but no example.

01:31:08.040 So that was the second betrayal.

01:31:10.120 No warrants.

01:31:11.660 Now you can still be spied on.

01:31:13.300 It's reauthorized.

01:31:15.020 Third betrayal just happened.

01:31:17.260 This one we're still stinging from because you may have seen the videos that every Democrat in the House voted for money for Ukraine.

01:31:23.740 And then premeditated, passed out Ukrainian flags, and we're all waving them and basically humiliating us.

01:31:30.460 And I think Speaker Johnson, if he's capable of having shame at this point, should have been humiliated by that display as well.

01:31:38.340 I put the video of that on Twitter, and the sergeant at arms told me it would fine me $500 if I didn't take it down.

01:31:44.800 So I reposted it.

01:31:45.740 Because, look, you're not supposed to put video of what's happening on the floor, but that was video of things that were breaking decorum, right?

01:31:57.720 I was trying to provide evidence that they were in the wrong, and instead of prosecuting them, they came after me.

01:32:03.680 Of course.

01:32:03.980 Now, we got 8 million views on the video after I reposted it, and Speaker Johnson backed down on that fine because he knew how bad it looked.

01:32:11.320 So third betrayal was that Ukrainian vote where we send the money overseas.

01:32:17.060 We gave up all leverage on any border security.

01:32:20.380 It included some other bad stuff in it.

01:32:22.880 Lots of money going on.

01:32:23.700 Let's talk about the $4 billion to help people from the Middle East immigrate here to the United States, including Palestinians. 0.98

01:32:34.500 Are you nuts? 0.61

01:32:36.400 Yeah, and see, Mike Johnson's not going to stand up against that. 0.97

01:32:39.940 By the way, those three bills that I just mentioned to you, you know what happened when they went to the Senate after they passed the House?

01:32:46.600 Chuck Schumer didn't even change the punctuation of any of those bills.

01:32:51.160 He didn't want any amendments to them.

01:32:54.040 He wanted them exactly as Mike Johnson had delivered from the House because those were Chuck Schumer's bills that Mike Johnson put on the floor.

01:33:02.360 So he is already in the arms of the Uniparty. 0.99

01:33:05.760 The question that you rightfully ask is, why do this?

01:33:09.580 Well, people are always asking me, Thomas, can you show us, can you give us a list of the good guys and the bad guys?

01:33:17.320 Can you tell me who the good guys are because I've got a primary, I've got a vote in, I've got a general election.

01:33:22.520 Tell me the list.

01:33:23.440 This list, you will have another list.

01:33:26.940 We keep doing this at great peril to ourselves.

01:33:29.720 The reason there's only a few of us who are willing to stand up and call this is because you put your reputation on the line,

01:33:37.880 and people here hate transparency and they hate us for doing it, but you'll have a list next week when the motion to vacate is called of who went with Hakeem Jeffries and the Uniparty to keep Mike Johnson in power.

01:33:52.300 Hakeem Jeffries, the reason he's supporting Mike Johnson, he got everything the Democrats want without any of the blowback by having Mike Johnson as speaker.

01:34:01.600 And they also, they have some plans for other things, like they may resettle Palestinian refugees in the United States and pay for it.

01:34:10.780 They may want to make the funding for Ukraine permanent.

01:34:14.960 And before our next election, there's going to be another CR or omnibus or something.

01:34:20.100 That deadline's September 30th.

01:34:21.900 So there's some people are like, well, why would you do this now, Congressman Massey?

01:34:26.120 Hasn't all the bad stuff, hasn't Mike already done all the bad stuff to us?

01:34:29.760 Can't we just sit it out through the next election?

01:34:32.760 No, because what Hakeem Jeffries wants more than anything is to be the speaker.

01:34:38.060 And the only way he becomes the speaker is by getting the majority of the House in November.

01:34:43.140 And he knows Mike Johnson is the most uninspiring speaker we've ever had who will not do anything to inspire a base.

01:34:49.160 We're likely to lose, most likely to lose the majority under Speaker Johnson.

01:34:53.340 So what would the plan be if you could get this to pass?

01:35:01.720 I mean, well, first of all, let me ask you, how many other Freedom Caucus members are standing with you?

01:35:09.700 Well, I think before Hakeem Jeffries came out for Speaker Johnson, there were probably somewhere between 12 and 20 who didn't want to speak up, but would have voted with us.

01:35:20.180 Now, I think you may have maybe the entire Freedom Caucus.

01:35:24.680 We'll see.

01:35:26.040 I know people outside of the Freedom Caucus who said, if one Democrat votes to keep Mike Johnson, I ain't voting to keep him because they know what that means.

01:35:36.740 That means it's the uniparty. Now, the first vote will be on a motion to table to try and prevent this from even coming up for an actual vote.

01:35:47.380 But people should understand that that motion to table, if they succeed, that is the only vote that will happen.

01:35:54.660 And then that is your list there. Those are the people who saved Mike Johnson, which Hakeem Jeffries and all the Democratic leadership say they'll do it.

01:36:02.500 And some of the Democrat rank and file. And there are some Republicans who said they'll vote to table.

01:36:08.460 But that will be the vote. Now, if we could succeed, OK, if we can get past that motion to table and maybe Hakeem Jeffries has only 40 Democrats who are willing to walk the plank,

01:36:20.500 because I can imagine that's going to be tough for them in their primaries unless they're planning on retiring.

01:36:25.020 Could you imagine you saved the Christian speaker who is against abortion and all this other stuff?

01:36:32.800 And what's this? Anyways, so I don't I'm not sure how many votes Hakeem has, but I think he helped us grow our numbers.

01:36:40.020 Let's say we make it past that first vote and there is a motion to vacate and Mike Johnson is vacated at that point.

01:36:47.580 Who would we elect? Well, we would like for Mike Johnson to avoid the scenario I just described.

01:36:54.720 We're giving him a weekend to resign. If he would announce that he's leaving like John Boehner did in 10 weeks and he won't be offended as we have votes to replace him while he's still the speaker.

01:37:06.040 We could go without ever not having a speaker. We could keep doing subpoenas in the Judiciary Committee.

01:37:12.020 We can hold hearings and we can pass all these wonderful messaging bills that they love to pass.

01:37:16.520 But if that doesn't happen, we have to elect a speaker. We'll be on the spot.

01:37:21.120 I think there are a dozen people in the GOP conference who have something in their prior life, whether it was political experience or private experience, that qualifies them for the job.

01:37:30.820 Mike Johnson is a lost ball in tall weeds.

01:37:33.400 I don't I don't think there's some conspiracy where they got kids locked up in the basement or something like that.

01:37:38.920 Or I don't think they've got info on him or blackmail material.

01:37:42.640 I just don't think he can do the job and there's nothing in his life prepared him for it.

01:37:46.640 Let's find somebody who can.

01:37:48.500 And hopefully I'll inspire people to keep us in the majority, because even if Hakeem Jeffries bails Mike Johnson out next week, they're not going to bail him out in January.

01:37:57.780 We know he is a lame duck speaker.

01:38:00.200 But he knows it. 0.82

01:38:01.420 Let's get him out of there before he causes any more mischief.

01:38:05.080 What did McCarthy do better than Johnson?

01:38:08.080 Oh, that's a great question.

01:38:11.600 Under McCarthy, we did seven of the 12 bills.

01:38:15.020 OK, there's 12 separate bills.

01:38:16.520 He said, we won't do an omnibus.

01:38:18.260 We'll do seven of the 12.

01:38:19.500 We got seven of the 12 done.

01:38:21.440 We had a thousand amendments.

01:38:23.160 I'm on the rules committee.

01:38:24.400 We got votes on a thousand amendments to allow rank and file members to participate in the legislative process.

01:38:30.480 When Mike Johnson came on board, he did two or three CRs.

01:38:34.560 He ignored the seven bills that we had done.

01:38:36.620 He made no effort to do the other five.

01:38:38.800 And he said, you're going to get a two part omnibus.

01:38:41.100 That was the bad thing.

01:38:42.740 The second thing.

01:38:44.640 Well, Kevin McCarthy could have cut a deal with the Democrats and could have been speaker still now.

01:38:50.720 He said, I'm not going to do it.

01:38:52.720 That the position is not that important to me that we will make a uniparty here and share power.

01:38:58.960 So that's another thing that Mike Johnson has expressed a willingness to do that Kevin wouldn't do.

01:39:04.740 And then finally, as a part of the debt limit deal this last summer, Kevin extracted from Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer.

01:39:13.760 This is signed into law.

01:39:14.920 It's still law that if you do a CR and it goes past April 30th, basically halfway through the fiscal year, there's a 1% cut to everything.

01:39:25.740 And Kevin secured that from Joe Biden.

01:39:28.020 And Mike Johnson had had three choices on the spending bills when he came into office.

01:39:33.380 He could have either used the 1% cut option.

01:39:36.080 He could have worked on the five other bills or he could have done an omnibus.

01:39:39.180 He did the omnibus.

01:39:40.500 He actually should have done the 1% cut option that Kevin had secured at great, you know, and spent a lot of political capital on getting that provision in law.

01:39:50.340 So those are three things that Kevin did that Mike didn't.

01:39:53.980 And Kevin, you know, he put three of us on the rules committee that gave us a blocking position, Chip Roy, Ralph Norman, and myself.

01:40:00.960 And we used that for good.

01:40:02.640 We forced the 72-hour rule for the entire time Kevin was speaker.

01:40:06.840 That's another thing Mike Johnson threw out the window.

01:40:08.980 You don't always get three days to read a bill now.

01:40:12.420 He's overriding his own rules committee and he's going with Democrats to do it.

01:40:16.720 Do you think he was – this was – you know, I read someplace that, you know, this was planned from the beginning.

01:40:23.240 He's been lying in wait trying to pretend that he was part of the Freedom Caucus for years.

01:40:29.600 Do you believe that?

01:40:31.900 Yeah.

01:40:32.520 You know what really confused me is the readiness with which sort of the big spenders in Washington, D.C.

01:40:41.740 were – accepted Mike Johnson as a valid speaker candidate after defeating Jim Jordan multiple times.

01:40:49.560 They found Jim Jordan unsuitable, but they found this junior member very suitable to the job who had no experience, you know,

01:40:57.380 had never been a chairman, didn't have much staff.

01:40:59.680 And I think at that point they got some assurance from Mike Johnson that he – or some feeling that Mike Johnson would be a good guy to carry the water for the establishment here in D.C.

01:41:10.960 And that's exactly what he's done.

01:41:13.840 Well, Thomas, when do you file?

01:41:17.000 This is Monday?

01:41:18.840 Probably what will happen is we'll file Monday.

01:41:22.460 Speaker Johnson, because it's a privileged resolution, the only thing that has higher privilege is motion to adjourn.

01:41:28.540 So he will have two days, two legislative days to bring it up.

01:41:32.600 So if we file it on Monday, the vote will either be Monday immediately or Tuesday or Wednesday.

01:41:38.460 If we file it on Tuesday, it would be either Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday would be the vote.

01:41:43.260 You don't believe that he's going to back away, though.

01:41:46.660 I mean, you put this – or Marjorie Taylor Greene did.

01:41:49.380 She put this in line to be brought up as kind of a threat.

01:41:52.700 Hey, we're thinking about doing this.

01:41:54.780 Don't push us.

01:41:55.620 And he did it anyway.

01:41:57.740 That's right.

01:41:58.500 So he called the bluff, and we're calling the bluff, and we're going to have this vote.

01:42:03.800 What I hope, Glenn, is that our conference chair, our whip, and our majority floor leader would go to Mike Johnson.

01:42:13.360 We exhibit the leadership that we put them on that team to exhibit and say, Mike, it's over.

01:42:19.780 It's just not worth what you're doing.

01:42:21.940 You're going and partnering with Hakeem Jeffries and the minority whip and the minority conference chair.

01:42:28.080 We can't do that.

01:42:29.260 So I'd like to see them go convince Mike Johnson as a team it's time for him to step aside.

01:42:34.880 He could still do that.

01:42:36.320 And I know as improbable as it sounds and as resolved as Mike Johnson seems when he goes to the podium,

01:42:41.660 that's exactly how John Boehner was until the five minutes he took to resign.

01:42:47.700 Thomas, I know we only got about a minute left, but if the concern is that Johnson will work with Jeffries

01:42:54.160 when he's put up against a wall and do these things, if you go forward with this,

01:42:59.360 you're making Johnson's political life dependent on Hakeem Jeffries saving him.

01:43:04.760 I mean, couldn't this potentially just make all of this worse?

01:43:07.900 It's very painful to expose this.

01:43:11.060 I think what we are illuminating, I don't think we're causing him to go in that direction.

01:43:15.880 We're illuminating what actually exists in Washington, D.C. and why you don't get the results you want.

01:43:21.360 It's because he's already in league with Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell and Hakeem Jeffries.

01:43:28.140 And we're just illuminating what would be otherwise, I believe.

01:43:33.700 Thomas, God bless you.

01:43:35.440 Thank you for standing up for your principles, whether people agree or disagree with you and your stance.

01:43:41.820 I will tell you that I have a lot of respect for somebody who will take the heat

01:43:45.840 because they won't sit down on their principles.

01:43:49.900 Thank you.

01:43:51.120 Well, thanks, Glenn.

01:43:52.180 And even people say this is a lost cause.

01:43:54.580 You shouldn't do it.

01:43:55.640 People didn't elect us to give up.

01:43:57.420 People elected us to try, and that's what we're doing.

01:43:59.980 Thank you so much.

01:44:00.840 Appreciate it.

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01:45:14.560 Well, if we can just hold it together long enough and Trump can possibly win this election,

01:45:32.500 I think we turn this thing around.

01:45:36.840 Things are changing all over the world.

01:45:40.080 Did you see what happened in Scotland this week?

01:45:42.040 I'm sure a lot of things happened in Scotland this week.

01:45:46.340 I can't believe.

01:45:47.040 No, no.

01:45:47.820 No, I don't.

01:45:48.260 Okay, so remember when the Scottish prime minister came out and said, 1.00

01:45:54.000 white people suck, except he said it with that cool accent. 1.00

01:45:57.740 Yeah. 1.00

01:45:58.640 You've got to have more power.

01:46:01.020 Anyway, he came out and he was saying that every position is held by a white person,

01:46:10.200 and that's wrong, and we have to have DEI and everything else.

01:46:14.100 And so he made a hate speech punishable.

01:46:21.580 So if you said anything at all that was against another race or something,

01:46:27.680 and it was construed as hate speech, you could report it to the government,

01:46:30.840 and the police would investigate it.

01:46:32.340 Well, by far, more people reached out to the police and said,

01:46:39.220 yeah, our prime minister is engaged in hate speech.

01:46:42.740 I mean, it was overwhelming.

01:46:45.240 They couldn't, nothing else would function.

01:46:47.460 And the government had to say, the police had to say,

01:46:49.700 we can't investigate the prime minister.

01:46:51.880 And they're like, why?

01:46:52.560 Well, he just resigned.

01:46:57.900 That's big, big news.

01:47:01.700 And I think this is starting to happen all over the world.

01:47:06.860 But Scotland really has, I mean, we get a lot of our philosophy of freedom from Scotland.

01:47:13.060 It is the Scottish enlightenment that really helped us become a nation.

01:47:17.080 We're going to go to a good friend of mine, Neil Oliver.

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01:47:25.640 Well, before he started talking about ESG and the World Economic Forum,

01:47:30.200 and then he just got pummeled by everybody.

01:47:36.020 Documentary filmmaker and historian and good friend, Neil Oliver, joins us next from Scotland.

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01:49:18.780 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

01:49:21.020 We're glad to see you, and thank you so much for listening.

01:49:25.360 Keith Davidson is testifying about the hush money payments on the Stormy Daniels case, and the question, and the very important legal question is, did Donald Trump cheat on Melania?

01:49:39.220 And they don't know.

01:49:40.340 They don't know.

01:49:41.220 But I hope they get down to the bottom of that.

01:49:44.540 Oh, my gosh.

01:49:45.160 Is that illegal?

01:49:47.120 Well, apparently in New York, maybe, if you're Donald Trump.

01:49:50.080 I mean, I just don't know.

01:49:52.220 Again, I mean, I don't think it's a good idea.

01:49:54.040 That would not be a good moral choice, but I don't think you can put him in jail for it, at least in this day and age.

01:50:04.180 Neil Oliver is joining us.

01:50:05.500 He's an archaeologist and the host of the Neil Oliver podcast.

01:50:10.400 He is probably my, well, I have another Scottish friend.

01:50:14.680 I was going to say my only Scottish friend, but I've got two of them.

01:50:17.900 So, Neil, at any time, I could shake you loose.

01:50:21.360 Just, you never know.

01:50:23.700 Welcome to the program, my friend.

01:50:25.200 How are you?

01:50:26.160 Oh, Glenn.

01:50:26.820 It's good to hear your voice.

01:50:27.820 I'm well, and I hope you are, too.

01:50:29.240 I am.

01:50:29.660 I am.

01:50:30.360 So, the first minister, he's just resigned.

01:50:36.240 He was in office for a year, and he was pushing, you know, the hate speech thing.

01:50:42.300 What happened there?

01:50:44.680 Well, in terms of the hate speech legislation that has gone through, been enacted, become law in Scotland, which was fascinating to watch.

01:50:55.960 As soon as the law went live, so to speak, on April Fool's Day of all days, but it was no joke, the complaints, so to speak, started flooding into the police, as everyone had predicted, because it was such a vague and, you know, in the eye of the beholder type of legislation that it was predicted that anyone and everyone would find someone to make a complaint about.

01:51:21.820 I haven't kept track since the end of the first week, but they were running at something like 8,000 or 10,000 complaints, people alleging hate crimes had been committed somewhere by someone about something.

01:51:37.980 So, the wheels of the police were gummed up, as a person might expect, and if it goes at that rate, if that was to be a consistent flow, then by the end of a year, the police would be dealing with processing as many hate crime bills as all other crimes likely to be reported to them of every other sort.

01:52:03.060 I mean, did he put this through himself, or were there other brainiacs that were involved in this?

01:52:09.200 Well, it went through a lengthy consultation, as they say about these things, during which time many voices, many sage advisers in the police, in the judiciary, all sorts of institutions, organisations, made representations saying this will be, this is a recipe for disaster,

01:52:33.520 this will be manipulated and misused by bad actors, by people who want to make mischievous allegations about their next-door neighbours, or people that they're aware of, whose opinions they disagree with.

01:52:47.940 All of those protests were made by all sorts of legal minds, senior legal figures, senior establishment figures.

01:52:56.380 It was well predicted that there would be trouble, but nonetheless, as with many other matters, the Scottish National Party, leading the administration in Scotland, led by Hamza Yusuf, persevered and got the bill enacted.

01:53:14.600 So it wasn't as though it came as a surprise. Everyone predicted a dystopian disaster, and that's what happened. But there we are. This is not unusual. Not so very long ago, the SNP, under Nicola Sturgeon at the time, the previous First Minister, attempted to install a named person.

01:53:36.520 In their wisdom, it was suggested that a named person, it could be anyone, it could be a teacher, it could be various categories of people, would establish a relationship with every child in Scotland, from primary school age up.

01:53:53.120 Oh, that sounds good.

01:53:53.960 That child would be encouraged to confide in that person. There would be no need to keep mum and dad informed that the conversations were taking place at all.

01:54:04.740 It was called the named person's bill. The SNP attempted to foist that interloper, that slippery insinuation into every family in Scotland, but it was eventually overturned by the highest court in the land. It went all the way to the Supreme Court.

01:54:21.920 Unbelievable. I mean, have you read, have you read 1984 recently?

01:54:26.740 Do you know, Glenn, I think as many people have, I have read it again, you know, only to, you know, to remind myself, I read it, I think, for the first time when I was at school.

01:54:38.600 Yeah, me too.

01:54:39.120 I've read it a couple of times since school because I do enjoy it. But, you know, as other people have said, it would appear it's good to be up to date with 1984 because a lot of the leaders of the West are treating it as an instruction manual.

01:54:52.840 Oh, yeah.

01:54:53.260 Rather than the dire warning it was supposed to be.

01:54:55.440 Yeah, it used to be something that we read in school and you were, you know, when you were a teenager, you were like, okay, I get it, you know, good story, but that's never going to happen.

01:55:04.000 Now it reads like the newspaper. It's crazy.

01:55:07.320 Absolutely. Apart from anything else, it's the idea that permeates throughout 1984, that forever war.

01:55:16.600 Yes.

01:55:16.980 The inhabitants of the world of 1984 exist where there's always war between East Asia, Eurasia and Oceania.

01:55:25.440 And at any given moment, your home country, your home state is at war with one of the other two.

01:55:30.960 And that facilitates the endless production of bullets and bombs and the rest of the paraphernalia of war.

01:55:39.860 It's crazy that it's Ocean Asia, which is NATO, you know, the Atlantic, and Eurasia, which is, you know, the Middle East, Russia and China.

01:55:52.320 I mean, it's exactly the pre the prescience of 1984.

01:55:57.420 And also what also is throughout the novel is the gray, hopeless, meaningless, oppressed life of the general population who have who live in a world of constant surveillance, never knowing if Big Brother is watching them or not.

01:56:15.840 And fear and fear of their own children, fear of their own children.

01:56:20.020 Everything, everything, everything about it, as I say, as others have commented, it would appear to be being used as the instruction manual for for world leaders at the moment.

01:56:31.400 So in London, and I think maybe in Ireland, I've heard calls for a caliphate.

01:56:37.700 But things are really crazy over here.

01:56:42.240 And in London, I mean, the the naturally born Englishman is in the minority now, I believe, in in London.

01:56:54.560 And we're seeing some serious problems over here with the Palestinian, you know, uprisings. 1.00

01:57:03.380 What is it like in in England, Scotland and Ireland?

01:57:08.980 Well, it's it's it's absolutely I think I think I think when last I looked or when last I had figures, I think London was 54 percent.

01:57:20.800 You know, you're not saying indigenous, you know, white English population, immigrant migrant, whatever, new, new to the new to the territory.

01:57:33.240 And throughout Europe, similar, the low countries, you know, Amsterdam, in Holland, I think I think I think I'm right in saying that Brussels in Belgium is running.

01:57:48.140 I think 70 percent income or population, income or population, I think it stands a little bit ahead and shoulders above anybody else in that respect.

01:57:57.720 But, you know, when I when I look on at that, my my my my my my big picture view of all of it is that the the populations of the world have been stirred up like a wasp's nest, you know, like like like a jam jar full of red ants that were that were just going about the red ant business.

01:58:16.880 But somebody picks up the jar and shakes it and then all hell breaks loose and all the ants start fighting and eating one another and all of the rest of it.

01:58:23.220 And clearly, the people, the peoples of the world are being treated like pawns on a board at the moment.

01:58:32.120 And, you know, people have been have been uprooted, deracinated, cut away from the roots all over the world, all over the east, all over the south, all over the west.

01:58:42.660 And people are on the move.

01:58:44.060 And it's I find it I find it deeply I find it deeply.

01:58:49.640 Of course, it's causing chaos.

01:58:51.380 Of course, it's causing upheaval.

01:58:53.560 Indigenous populations all across the west are feeling are feeling overwhelmed as they would.

01:58:59.560 But everyone's being set at everyone else's throat.

01:59:02.540 Black against white against brown. 0.98

01:59:05.440 The Christian against Muslim against you. 0.99

01:59:07.740 And I mean, I, for one, uphold the feeling that in large part, most people, most people of whatever color and creed and whatever just want just want lives, just want lives somewhere safe that they can raise their children, maybe improve their circumstances, maybe hand off to the next generation something better.

01:59:30.260 But that natural human need, that natural human urge, you know, has been subverted and the jam jar has been shaken.

01:59:42.860 And as I say, one group after another has been set at every other group's throat.

01:59:49.340 And, you know, we're being manipulated and we're being played like Stradivarius violins at the moment.

01:59:55.040 I will tell you that, you know, there's this replacement theory that they talk about here, that white people are just afraid of being replaced by brown people and blah, blah, blah.

02:00:06.580 I don't have a problem. 0.83

02:00:07.840 I don't care what color.

02:00:10.160 I'm bothered that their culture is replacing our culture. 0.99

02:00:15.980 I like our culture.

02:00:17.820 We worked hard for the Western culture.

02:00:20.320 And it's just being destroyed and being replaced.

02:00:23.920 I agree.

02:00:24.500 Yeah.

02:00:25.040 There's a great threat.

02:00:26.080 There's a great threat because I think it happens cyclically that enough generations exist in a time of peace and plenty and convenience.

02:00:37.580 That eventually a generation is born and rises in those circumstances that believes that the ways of life that have been possible in the West are in the natural order of things.

02:00:49.420 When, in fact, the civilization that has been known by a few generations of the peoples of the West is vanishingly rare.

02:00:58.100 It never happened before.

02:00:59.100 It never happened before.

02:01:00.100 It may never happen again.

02:01:01.980 But a world in which supermarkets are full of food, the buses turn up at the appointed time, the streets are safe, the lights come on, the bins and the refuse are collected on a regular basis.

02:01:13.020 That is not natural.

02:01:15.020 You know, you've only a person has only to look at the almost the totality of human history and to look around at the wider world in which we live now to be bluntly reminded that what we have had in the West is unbelievably unlikely.

02:01:30.840 And that we were blessed with that civilization by our ancestors after all sorts of bloody strife is nothing less than miraculous.

02:01:41.020 But because the generation comes that thinks, oh, well, you can take your hands off the wheel.

02:01:45.140 You can read a book instead of looking out the windshield while you drive, that the car will stay on the road.

02:01:50.940 And of course it doesn't.

02:01:52.760 And I'm not even sure entirely that it's just down to people being ignorant of the reality of what makes a civilization.

02:02:01.120 You know, there's a wonderful poem by the contemporary Greek poet C.P.

02:02:04.540 Cavafy about the barbarians, a city that becomes aware that barbarians are close by and may invade the city.

02:02:11.520 And the citizens of the safe city have actually become so bored, so jaded with their civilized status quo that when news reaches them that the barbarians have just moved away and gone somewhere else, the citizens of the city are disappointed because the thought of the upheaval was something to be briefly excited about.

02:02:32.980 You know, so I don't know which combination of realities we're actually living in, but there's no doubt that the civilization that has briefly flourished like a blossom on a cherry tree in the West is deeply imperiled by, I don't know, by sloth, by people not paying attention.

02:02:54.140 Neil, can you hang on for just about a minute or two?

02:02:57.160 Sure.

02:02:57.660 Okay, good.

02:02:58.080 Neil Oliver, archaeologist, documentary filmmaker, historian, writer, and really, really came under attack because of COVID, but now he has the Neil Oliver podcast, well worth your time to listen to.

02:03:13.740 Neil Oliver joins us in just a second.

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02:04:55.140 Neil Oliver is with us from Scotland.

02:04:57.940 Neil, Russell Brand was baptized, and I know you know Russell Brand.

02:05:05.160 How is this being perceived over in the United Kingdom?

02:05:11.500 It's a very interesting question, Glenn.

02:05:14.360 Yes, my path crossed with Russell's during the whole COVID debacle, and we've got to know each other.

02:05:19.760 And I'm very fond of Russell.

02:05:23.440 I consider him a good friend.

02:05:26.220 We'll have a lot of fantastic and interesting conversations.

02:05:29.020 Yeah, he was baptized on Sunday, just passed, in the River Thames.

02:05:34.640 You've got to believe in God for that.

02:05:37.860 Yeah.

02:05:38.680 And, yeah, how has it been received?

02:05:42.720 Well, many people are very, very supportive, as am I.

02:05:48.480 You know, I consider myself a Christian.

02:05:50.980 I'm certainly a person of faith.

02:05:54.980 Of Russell going on that journey, and it is a journey.

02:05:59.040 And, you know, taking that step from one life to the next, I find very encouraging, heartwarming, inspiring.

02:06:04.940 And I think that response is shared by many, many people.

02:06:10.180 That's good to hear.

02:06:12.820 There's criticism of people with issues with faith, with organized religion, and all of the rest of it.

02:06:19.140 Sorry, Neil, out of time, but thank you so much.

02:06:21.380 The Grand Back Program.

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