The Glenn Beck Program - 'Refusing The Cliff'？ - 08⧸21⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, Glenn Beck, free housing, free college, free college

00:00:12.700 tuition, single payer health care, doubling the welfare state and minimum wage.

00:00:17.760 Sound familiar?

00:00:19.080 This is the same platform of any Democratic Socialist candidate here in the United States,

00:00:24.180 whether it's Bernie Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez, you know, and a whole fleet of new up and comers.

00:00:31.380 But the platform, as familiar as it may sound, is actually the same platform as the Economic

00:00:36.720 Freedom Fighters or EFF in South Africa.

00:00:40.260 Now, this is a group of Marxist Leninists who have now become the third largest political

00:00:45.500 party in the country.

00:00:47.320 Their leader has brought the EFF into the spotlight by tapping into populism.

00:00:52.960 He fingered the white man as the answer to all of the problems, declaring at a rally back

00:01:00.140 in January, go after a white man.

00:01:04.000 Let me play the audio for you. 0.98

00:01:05.780 But we're starting with this whiteness. 0.98

00:01:08.920 We're cutting the throat of whiteness. 1.00

00:01:11.760 It's a ganga. 1.00

00:01:13.260 Rechaula mlaala.

00:01:16.320 Rechaula mlaala.

00:01:19.140 Whiteness rechaula mlaala. 0.94

00:01:20.860 Go pi ii kwa. 1.00

00:01:21.820 Nga.

00:01:22.960 He also, in that same speech, started to talk about, you know, he just wants to know who

00:01:33.340 these white people are.

00:01:34.960 He wants to know what religion they are.

00:01:36.820 He wants to know where they come from originally.

00:01:39.440 He wants to know how long they've been here. 0.99

00:01:42.400 And then they will cut the throats of whiteness. 1.00

00:01:45.340 Any of this sound familiar? 0.96

00:01:49.080 Because this is the kind of stuff that comes from democratic socialists, Marxists, Leninists.

00:01:56.500 It always does.

00:01:57.500 It always does.

00:01:58.100 You have to have class or race warfare.

00:02:02.880 This is why it's incredibly important that we do not give in to our outrage, that we break

00:02:10.860 our addiction to outrage.

00:02:12.800 Because if we don't, we will be led down this same path where the only answer is kill the other 0.98

00:02:21.440 side.

00:02:21.920 The EFFs or EFFs numbers and popularity have grown so large now that they were actually

00:02:29.580 able to force the African National Congress to begin seizing white owned land, land owned

00:02:37.120 by white farmers and giving it to black South Africans.

00:02:41.000 The policy has now begun.

00:02:44.520 The new state law says that white farmers will be offered fair market value for their land

00:02:50.580 by the government.

00:02:51.700 If they turn it down, the land will be seized anyway.

00:02:56.140 Fair market value for a land, a piece of land that they have just seized included $1.37

00:03:05.360 million for a piece of land that is valued in the open market at $13.7 million.

00:03:12.860 It's only a tenth of what the farms are worth.

00:03:16.900 Obviously, a slap in the face.

00:03:19.100 After turning it down, they received this letter.

00:03:22.120 Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farm at 10 a.m. in order to

00:03:28.660 conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm's keys to the state.

00:03:34.280 This farm is just the first of many.

00:03:38.080 This is exactly what happened with Lenin and Stalin.

00:03:42.440 What they do is they blame the rich farmers.

00:03:45.540 Then they kill or take the land away from the rich farmers.

00:03:50.800 Then they give those farms to the people.

00:03:54.460 The people don't have experience that the rich farmer has.

00:03:59.100 They were rich for a reason.

00:04:01.200 Then the country starves.

00:04:05.660 A report earlier this month showed that 139 white-owned farms have been targeted now for

00:04:11.480 seizure.

00:04:12.480 So what happens if the farmers refuse to leave their land?

00:04:16.280 These are the moments right before catastrophe.

00:04:20.040 And it all began with a small group of Marxists and Democratic socialists that were able to capture

00:04:26.400 the national spotlight by harnessing hatred.

00:04:30.860 We don't have land redistribution here.

00:04:34.440 Yet.

00:04:35.540 But the rise of democratic socialism and Marxism in South Africa should sound uncomfortably familiar.

00:04:42.980 Look at what the new left is doing and saying here in America.

00:04:47.020 They are categorizing each of us into groups and to identities and turning us one against the

00:04:54.720 other social class against social class, race against race, gender against gender.

00:05:01.720 Today's social justice is the undercover name for yesterday's bourgeoisie,

00:05:07.580 proletariat workers revolution.

00:05:09.480 It is Marxism coming from the flank rather than straight ahead.

00:05:15.560 You'll never hear this from a democratic socialist, but heed this warning.

00:05:22.240 Marxism leads to violence every time.

00:05:26.620 I ask you today to pray for the people of South Africa, both white and black, the whites that 0.98

00:05:37.740 will be killed, the blacks that will have to live with it for the rest of their lives, and 1.00

00:05:43.600 the children that will have to grow up now in chaos and violence. 0.99

00:05:48.680 pray for the people of South Africa, but also pray that we don't actually go over this cliff

00:05:58.880 as we get precariously close to the edge.

00:06:11.240 It's Tuesday, August 21st.

00:06:13.860 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:06:18.680 With a full understanding of there are many things that I believe that I shall never say,

00:06:30.420 but I shall never say the things that I do not believe.

00:06:33.560 With the understanding of where the world is going, and how easily it is to remove voices

00:06:41.680 now for quote-unquote hate speech, I deliver this next segment with nothing but respect for other

00:06:54.820 people's viewpoints.

00:06:58.480 But in return, I demand that they respect my viewpoint.

00:07:03.840 If we cannot come to a place to where we can say, well, we see the world radically differently,

00:07:13.000 but you're still my neighbor.

00:07:16.500 If we cannot come to that place, the only thing left is to silence one another, and when that 0.99

00:07:24.240 doesn't work, to shoot. 0.96

00:07:26.380 Remember, first, you suggest, you nudge, then you shove, then you shoot.

00:07:37.120 We are well in to the shove category.

00:07:40.640 I will shove your voice towards mine or out of the public square.

00:07:45.840 There is new guidelines on that they want to teach our children about safe sex.

00:07:56.940 And as I read the guidelines, I thought to myself two things.

00:08:04.500 One, the warning that I have told you over and over again from a woman named Paulina. 0.98

00:08:11.200 She was one of the people that saved the Jews in Poland.

00:08:17.200 She was about 90 when I met her.

00:08:20.720 She had lived with this secret on what she had done and how many Jews she had saved.

00:08:26.960 She started when she was about 16 years old in World War II.

00:08:32.000 And when I met her, she was old and gray, but still as shy and quiet.

00:08:37.400 She couldn't talk about it for a long time until the Iron Curtain came down, because that

00:08:42.640 would have been wildly unpopular to be a Christian that saved Jews in the former Soviet Union.

00:08:48.100 So it wasn't until the 1990s that she could tell her story, or people could tell her story

00:08:55.880 for her, as she was very shy.

00:08:58.740 I sat down with her with my family, and I asked her,

00:09:02.340 I believe the tree of righteousness is in all of us.

00:09:08.000 What do I do to water it?

00:09:12.080 She said to me, you misunderstand.

00:09:15.400 The righteous didn't suddenly become righteous.

00:09:17.740 They just refused to go over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

00:09:22.700 So as I read this today, I thought to myself,

00:09:27.320 this is the cliff.

00:09:29.700 This is one of them.

00:09:31.140 And I will not go over the cliff with the rest of humanity, come what may.

00:09:41.500 Here is the new LGBTQIA safe sex guide.

00:09:48.820 Historically, when sex education was introduced to the general public, content was focused

00:09:54.840 on puberty education for cisgender people, heterosexual sex, pregnancy prevention, and

00:10:00.880 a reduction of STIs.

00:10:03.120 During that time, there was a great deal of stigma and discrimination associated with being

00:10:08.020 lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, or asexual.

00:10:13.180 Gender-inclusive terms such as non-binary and trans had yet to enter the mainstream language

00:10:21.160 and culture.

00:10:22.740 This historic context and rampant homophobia and transphobia created a foundation where

00:10:29.680 most sex education curricula didn't acknowledge the existence of LGBTQIA and non-binary individuals.

00:10:39.040 Sex programs were instead developed based on an assumption that those receiving

00:10:43.160 the information were solely heterosexual and cisgender.

00:10:47.040 That's why that this safe sex guide is aimed at understanding the nuance, complex, and diverse

00:10:54.960 gender identities, sexual orientation, attractions, and experiences that exist in the world, which

00:11:01.380 vary across cultures and communities.

00:11:03.780 We need an LGBTQIA-inclusive safer sex guide, because traditional guides are often structured in ways that

00:11:14.860 presumes everyone's gender—female, male, non-binary, and trans.

00:11:23.020 No.

00:11:25.860 They presume everyone's gender is the same as the sex that they were assigned at birth.

00:11:32.140 Male, female, or intersex, or differences in sexual development.

00:11:39.940 Sex education resources often use videos and pictures and diagrams to portray important information,

00:11:46.800 though these images and videos have historically failed to reflect and provide information about

00:11:52.180 same-sex and queer relationships.

00:11:54.340 These guides also often unnecessarily gender body parts as male parts or female parts,

00:12:02.360 and refer to sex with women or sex with men, including those who identify as non-binary.

00:12:10.720 Many individuals don't see body parts as having a gender.

00:12:16.180 People have a gender.

00:12:17.680 As a result, the notion that a penis is exclusively a male body part and a vulva is exclusively a female body part 0.90

00:12:34.160 is inaccurate.

00:12:35.600 By using the word parts to talk about genitals, and using medical terms for anatomy without attaching gender to it,

00:12:44.720 we become much more able to effectively discuss safe sex in a way that is clear and inclusive.

00:12:50.060 For the purposes of this guide, we refer to the vagina as the front hole, instead of using the medical term. 0.99

00:13:00.880 This gender-inclusive language that's considerate of the fact that some trans people don't identify with the labels of the medical community.

00:13:12.000 I'm not...

00:13:14.340 No.

00:13:18.900 No.

00:13:21.000 No.

00:13:22.180 No.

00:13:23.280 No.

00:13:23.880 No.

00:13:24.500 I am not teaching my children, nor will I ever comply.

00:13:30.880 To removing the medical term, and teach my children about sex using the words front hole. 0.99

00:13:42.720 I'm sorry.

00:13:44.920 No.

00:13:46.680 I...

00:13:47.440 I...

00:13:48.320 You want to do that?

00:13:49.900 That is fine.

00:13:51.620 But I will not comply.

00:13:54.660 When we first started having this conversation about homosexuality, I am a libertarian.

00:14:04.900 I was never against gay marriage.

00:14:07.300 What I am against is forcing a church or a group of people to live within the standards someone else's set, someone else sets.

00:14:18.160 So, if you want to get married, go get married.

00:14:24.500 No skin off of my nose.

00:14:27.200 But do not come to my church and tell me what I must believe or do.

00:14:34.060 My faith is sacred to me, and it is just as much a part of me as anything else.

00:14:42.180 I cannot change what I believe and still be me.

00:14:48.260 Now, it's interesting because, remember, you're teaching that gender is what you believe, and you cannot change that.

00:14:59.620 Well, then, I would say my religious philosophy is the same.

00:15:05.160 I wasn't born with it.

00:15:08.260 It's what I believe.

00:15:10.020 I will not tell you what to do, how to live, how to speak.

00:15:19.240 Do not tell me what to do, how to act, what to say, how to think.

00:15:27.080 You are not the boss of me, and I am not the boss of you.

00:15:32.040 I happen to believe that all men are created equal, and we are endowed with certain inalienable rights, dare I say, those rights that come from God, not from man.

00:15:49.100 And those rights include life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:15:53.400 I am not a hater for saying, no, no.

00:16:01.600 When we first started talking about acceptance of homosexuality, the case was made, and I believe this, that you're born this way. 1.00

00:16:14.560 Many people, I believe, are absolutely born feeling differently.

00:16:20.680 I believe it.

00:16:23.420 There's no scientific proof of it, but I believe it.

00:16:27.880 I have seen children.

00:16:30.740 Children are born with their own personalities and their own, I don't know, their own thing.

00:16:37.460 And no matter what, it's pretty hard to deny that natural thing that each of them come out with.

00:16:43.840 They all have their own personality and their own style and their own thing.

00:16:48.440 And every single homosexual person that I have ever known, loved, or just even met would not choose that lifestyle. 1.00

00:16:59.280 Now, that's changing.

00:17:02.060 But let's not get so arrogant that we forget how horrible it was for a long time to live in the shadows.

00:17:11.640 I know people who prayed every single day.

00:17:15.180 God, please, remove this from me.

00:17:23.040 You are who you are, but so am I.

00:17:27.420 There's much more to say about this in a minute.

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00:18:54.240 You cannot mock truth isn't truth one day and then come out and say the opposite the next day, that the penis is not a male body part. 0.99

00:19:12.200 Can't. 0.99

00:19:12.580 Sorry, I will not go down your, you know, post-modernist wormhole.

00:19:18.920 Yeah, and you seem to feel a little uncomfortable saying terms like front hole.

00:19:23.940 Yeah.

00:19:24.200 So, what do you think about Frol and Behold?

00:19:29.160 Is that kind of like, okay, let me, I wasn't going to go this far.

00:19:32.440 No, words have meaning.

00:19:34.280 How about Phragina, Freeness, and Froobies?

00:19:38.060 I don't know.

00:19:38.500 And then Banis.

00:19:41.220 That, I think, if you get, if you go, the Phragina, people will know what you mean, because they'll know what, I guess you have to also determine what side of the body it's on for some reason.

00:19:49.540 So, Phragina, Freeness, Froobies, and Banis.

00:19:56.560 The new science.

00:19:57.780 No.

00:19:59.180 No.

00:19:59.740 I mean, no.

00:20:00.880 You sure you don't like any of the?

00:20:02.620 No.

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00:20:09.920 I guess maybe the right way to go is just to look for someone maybe you have a light acquaintance with who, or maybe, you know what, even better, somebody whose face you saw on a bench.

00:20:20.020 That's a great way to pick somebody who's going to represent you in a hundreds of thousands of dollars level of a transaction.

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00:21:05.760 This is the Glenn Beck Program. 0.99

00:21:10.120 All right, Stu, we've got a problem with vagina. 1.00

00:21:13.200 Really? 0.99

00:21:13.820 Yeah.

00:21:14.200 I think it's a great term.

00:21:15.720 Now it autocorrects to dragon.

00:21:18.500 Yeah.

00:21:19.040 Which I think she dragon. 0.61

00:21:20.520 I think you could say she dragon, maybe.

00:21:22.540 Maybe that's accurate. 0.99

00:21:23.420 Maybe that is Google telling us, yes, vagina tells you the location front. 1.00

00:21:30.000 And what it is. 0.99

00:21:31.360 Yes. 0.98

00:21:32.440 I'm just upset that these cisgender phones have not yet adopted the new appropriate language of vagina, freeness, frubies, and banus. 0.99

00:21:43.640 At some point, we have to get over our old cisgender heteronormative ways. 0.94

00:21:48.980 Thank you.

00:21:49.540 Thank you for finally saying it.

00:21:50.420 Thank you.

00:21:50.720 I've got to clap for myself.

00:21:51.700 Wow, that was, you are, you are so righteous.

00:21:57.520 Thank you.

00:21:57.860 You know?

00:21:58.320 Yeah, I'm great.

00:21:59.100 I'm really great.

00:21:59.840 And I think I'm signaling to everyone the virtuous nature of what I'm doing.

00:22:03.000 I think you are.

00:22:04.160 And I think they understand it, and they feel it, and they give it back to me.

00:22:07.640 I think it's really good.

00:22:08.200 Because I'm wonderful.

00:22:09.280 I think it's really good.

00:22:10.820 Hey, by the way, speaking of virtue signaling, I'm having a hard time with the whole Asia Argento story because of Rose McGowan.

00:22:21.180 Okay, so if you don't know, Asia Argento, she is a woman who was one of the big accusers of Harvey Weinstein.

00:22:30.800 Yeah, she is an actress, and she was, you know, probably the most outspoken. 1.00

00:22:38.380 Her and Rose McGowan were probably the two most outspoken about her. 0.97

00:22:41.540 And Rose McGowan at the time tweeted, you know, you have to believe the women.

00:22:45.380 You have to call out the abusers right away, and you have to distance yourself from them.

00:22:53.460 Otherwise, you're just a bad human being.

00:22:56.620 I'm trying to remember. 0.93

00:22:57.760 Do we have the other tweet?

00:22:59.560 Not the believe women, but the, yeah, here it is.

00:23:02.000 Believe survivors.

00:23:02.860 Apologize for putting your career and wallet ahead of what was right, and grab your spine and denounce. 0.98

00:23:09.200 If you do not do these things, you are still a moral coward. 0.97

00:23:14.240 Okay, so that's Rose McGowan.

00:23:15.700 Well, yesterday, Rose McGowan, after it was found out that her good friend, who is she using those tweets to defend against, you know, Harvey Weinstein accusations,

00:23:28.400 her friend was now accused of diddling an underage boy and, you know, pretty much paying him off $380,000.

00:23:38.900 That's more than pretty much.

00:23:43.020 That's a pretty good payday there, I would say.

00:23:46.820 $380,000, it's a lot of money.

00:23:50.100 It's a lot of money.

00:23:51.260 It seems like you don't typically, I mean, this is what we heard every single time, that there was an accusation against the mail.

00:23:57.440 You don't pay someone $380,000 unless you've done something wrong.

00:24:01.740 We certainly heard it about Donald Trump when he paid $140,000 to Stormy Daniels.

00:24:06.600 We heard that over and over again, that you don't pay someone $140,000 unless you've done something wrong.

00:24:12.020 Yeah.

00:24:12.480 So now Rose McGowan has come out with a new tweet.

00:24:18.220 And this new tweet is, none of us know the truth of the situation, and I'm sure more will be revealed.

00:24:24.100 Be gentle.

00:24:25.260 Wait a minute, Rose. 0.96

00:24:26.620 Did you just call herself a moral coward? 1.00

00:24:28.740 Yes.

00:24:29.240 I mean, were you not just telling us that you had to believe the survivor?

00:24:34.580 Yeah, it's interesting because when you have personal information about one of the two individuals involved in one of these situations, sometimes you judge it differently.

00:24:44.340 Huh.

00:24:44.640 Maybe the additional information you have causes you to pause and judge the situation not out of anger and moral outrage, but as factual information that you've received about a person, an individual.

00:24:58.240 And, you know, hang on, it might also be that you don't even know the person, but you say, hey, there should be a process.

00:25:05.380 We shouldn't just be a lynch mob.

00:25:07.160 Yeah.

00:25:07.420 I mean, that should be your default position, in my view.

00:25:10.380 It has not been the view of our society for the past year and a half.

00:25:14.080 But now that it's turning around on the actual hashtag MeToo founders, it is starting to be, well, wait, let's have some due process.

00:25:24.540 We saw this with Al Franken.

00:25:27.020 We saw this with Lena Dunham had a situation like this where she was tweeting defense of someone accused.

00:25:32.700 Well, Al Franken is still being excused.

00:25:35.840 I don't know if you heard Chelsea Handler.

00:25:38.100 But Chelsea Handler had... 1.00

00:25:39.960 I can almost always say no to a question like that.

00:25:42.220 Well, here's what she has said now about Al Franken.

00:25:45.260 You mentioned the MeToo movement.

00:25:47.980 When it comes to the Democratic Party, they have tried to purge, right, politicians who have faced allegations.

00:25:53.700 I know you were a supporter of Al Franken in the past, and he hasn't ruled out running again.

00:25:57.840 Should he?

00:25:58.500 I love Al Franken.

00:26:00.780 So, yes, I would love for Al Franken to run again.

00:26:02.980 Really?

00:26:03.500 Despite...

00:26:04.140 Yes, I think...

00:26:04.480 I mean, there were like eight allegations against him.

00:26:06.440 But have women putting their arms... 1.00

00:26:08.820 I don't want to...

00:26:09.740 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:26:11.600 No, they weren't about him putting his arm around.

00:26:14.520 It wasn't the picture.

00:26:16.100 It's what that woman said happened to her all during a comedy tour before that picture was taken.

00:26:23.600 That was the last insult.

00:26:25.920 Remember, he assaulted her backstage and forced himself on her and jammed his tongue down her throat. 0.52

00:26:34.320 Allegedly. 0.94

00:26:35.300 Allegedly.

00:26:35.960 But we have to believe the accuser, don't we?

00:26:38.180 Well, you know what?

00:26:39.940 No.

00:26:40.400 So, there were eight people that said this about Al Franken.

00:26:44.560 All right.

00:26:44.940 Now, go back to her. 0.81

00:26:46.040 Of women putting their arm... 0.92

00:26:48.060 I don't want to diminish anyone's legitimate claim of feeling like they've been assaulted,

00:26:54.720 because that's your feeling, but I think there is a very big difference of a man putting his arm around you.

00:27:02.880 He's a comedian. 0.99

00:27:03.780 I've touched people's breasts and genitals. 0.99

00:27:06.980 I can't imagine how many times in photos. 0.95

00:27:09.600 That doesn't excuse it, but it's something that's not a rape.

00:27:14.500 That's not sexual assault, and it's not repeated behavior over and over again.

00:27:19.260 Okay.

00:27:19.580 So, wait.

00:27:21.000 So, wait a minute. 0.99

00:27:21.660 So, is she saying because she's a comedian, because she's a celebrity, she can just grab people's genitals? 1.00

00:27:32.240 She's... 1.00

00:27:32.840 I don't know if she's saying you can do that, but she's saying she has done it.

00:27:35.720 She has done that.

00:27:36.740 So, she's not necessarily giving advice, but she is bragging about how many she may have grabbed in the past.

00:27:46.420 She is bragging about that, yes.

00:27:47.640 Okay.

00:27:48.220 All right.

00:27:48.500 I'm just trying to just...

00:27:50.660 I'm just trying to think if there's anything else that seems similar to that, but now it's totally...

00:27:56.900 Now it's totally okay.

00:27:58.280 And did you notice she also said, I don't want to dismiss anyone's legitimate claim.

00:28:04.160 Oh.

00:28:04.980 Legitimate?

00:28:05.500 Is that legitimate rape? 0.99

00:28:06.400 I remember when that used to sink politicians, and we'd never hear from them ever again.

00:28:10.840 But she didn't say legitimate claim of assault.

00:28:13.640 She said, legitimate claim of feeling as though you were assaulted.

00:28:19.200 Yes.

00:28:19.620 Because that's just feelings.

00:28:22.300 No.

00:28:22.900 See, this is the problem with postmodernism.

00:28:26.840 As Ben Shapiro says, facts don't care about your feelings.

00:28:31.880 It's a fact.

00:28:32.700 You were either assaulted or you were not assaulted.

00:28:36.580 You can feel that you were assaulted all you want, but that's really a problem with you, and I'm not going to delve into your sickness.

00:28:45.860 I am not going to verify and condone and coddle your illegitimate feelings of being assaulted if the assault didn't happen.

00:29:00.680 The same way we don't coddle someone who did assault someone who doesn't feel like they did anything wrong.

00:29:06.460 Correct.

00:29:06.780 You don't, it's about what happened, not about how they feel about it.

00:29:10.400 It's the facts, not the feeling.

00:29:12.240 And, you know, look, I think she's actually right in the aspect of there is a major difference between Chelsea Handler jokingly grabbing somebody in a photo and somebody who is actually assaulted, like from Harvey Weinstein.

00:29:32.020 There is a line there.

00:29:33.140 That doesn't mean that either one is a good idea, but there's clearly a difference.

00:29:37.640 Do you know anybody in your life, I mean, we know comedians, do you know anybody in your life that can legitimately say, I can't even count the number of people I've grabbed by the genitals in a photograph?

00:29:50.160 I happen to be watching an office episode the other day, and in the office episode, Dwight and Pam are trying to decipher whether Jim is attracted to the new office worker.

00:30:01.660 And in this, in this debate where they're trying to figure it out, Dwight takes on the task of trying to assess after they're together.

00:30:12.060 I got it.

00:30:12.440 And he fakes falling down, and he grabs for something, and I mean, he grabs Jim's, you know, his, his freeness several times.

00:30:23.940 That's on a, that's on a TV show.

00:30:25.680 Right, I know.

00:30:26.420 She's saying in photographs.

00:30:28.900 I can't.

00:30:29.440 Exactly, right.

00:30:30.340 So what my point, though, is that if it's a, you know, there's a, there is a, it would be ridiculous, obviously.

00:30:36.860 And, and if someone who didn't want it to happen or didn't think it was funny, it would be obviously very bad.

00:30:42.360 Sure.

00:30:42.620 However, you know, I'm not, I, I wouldn't justify what she's doing there.

00:30:47.040 However, I can see, you know, she's known for sexual comedy. 1.00

00:30:51.080 I think guys, generally speaking, don't really care.

00:30:55.300 I, you know what I mean?

00:30:55.940 Like, I, you know, I don't know that that's ever happened to me, but if it did, it wouldn't really bother. 0.62

00:31:00.680 Our genitals. 0.98

00:31:01.200 Right, like you'd be like, what the hell? 1.00

00:31:02.400 Get off me. 1.00

00:31:02.900 She said breasts, our genitals, are those exclusively male, you cisgender white pig? 1.00

00:31:09.580 I'm just saying that I'm trying to come up with a circumstance. 0.98

00:31:12.100 My point, however, is more, I guess, targeted at the idea that there is a difference, right?

00:31:18.720 There's no way, there's no story I can tell you in which a justified end of like, oh, and then he took off his bathrobe and forced her into the shower.

00:31:28.140 There's not like a, there's not a scenario.

00:31:30.760 So there is a difference, and we've pointed this out many times on the show, that there is a major difference between what Al Franken did and what Harvey Weinstein did.

00:31:38.720 And they shouldn't be lumped in as the exact same thing.

00:31:41.660 I'm talking about the photo part of it.

00:31:43.200 Yeah, the photo part.

00:31:44.260 The photo part with Al Franken is not the part that personally disturbs me.

00:31:49.620 It is what happened leading up to the photo.

00:31:53.460 Yeah.

00:31:54.000 And, you know, that's assault.

00:31:55.740 I mean, there's been a wide range of this.

00:31:58.280 There's a spectrum.

00:31:58.980 We now, like, understand kind of the idea of the spectrum from, you know, different, you know, medical situations.

00:32:06.880 And there's a spectrum here.

00:32:08.100 That doesn't mean that any of it's good.

00:32:09.880 But, I mean, when you're talking about, like, Louis C.K. is much different than Harvey Weinstein.

00:32:14.200 You know, I think Glenn Thrush, who was one of the reporters, is much different than anything that we saw from, you know, the worst of the worst.

00:32:22.220 And, like, the idea that all of those are lumped in under this thing, me too, is a problem, I think, that society has not figured out how to deal with yet.

00:32:31.380 And so there's an element there where you could say, okay, well, what she's saying has some merit.

00:32:38.820 However, Chelsea Handler is not a fair arbiter.

00:32:41.740 And she's just defending this person because she likes him.

00:32:44.360 I think we all recognize that the reason she's coming up with these wonderful excuses on these things is because she likes Al Franken.

00:32:50.420 And if it was a conservative doing the exact same thing, she'd be on Twitter saying how horrible they were and they are all mass rapists and they should all go to prison.

00:32:56.940 And that's the problem.

00:32:58.220 Well, she may know Al Franken.

00:33:00.360 There's a difference.

00:33:01.440 I mean, you know, I've had several conversations with Bill O'Reilly.

00:33:05.920 It's not that I know Bill O'Reilly.

00:33:08.220 I know other people as well, and I don't defend them.

00:33:11.980 You know, it's not that you know them or that I agree with their politics.

00:33:16.120 I think in the worst case scenario, it is.

00:33:18.280 Yeah, I mean, like even I mean, you talked about Roger Ailes many times, and I don't think I've heard you put up a defense of Roger.

00:33:25.280 Nope.

00:33:25.560 Even though you believe it very well where, you know, Bill, you you've you've known fairly well as well over the years.

00:33:31.760 And, you know, again, when you are involved in a situation where someone has been accused of something terrible, someone, you know, well.

00:33:41.160 Well, you should insert your personal knowledge of that person into your analysis of the situation.

00:33:50.960 That does not mean you get they get a free pass without dismissing facts.

00:33:56.300 Absolutely.

00:33:57.160 That's not my feelings that that steer me and say, I don't believe that about Bill.

00:34:04.080 Well, it's the fact that we've traveled with him and been around him for a long time.

00:34:09.460 And none of us ever saw anything like this ever and can't even imagine it doesn't mean it's not true.

00:34:17.300 Didn't happen.

00:34:18.020 But I don't know that.

00:34:19.400 And I'm not going to judge him.

00:34:20.760 Exactly.

00:34:21.020 And everybody knows. 0.97

00:34:22.000 I mean, you know, the office is a good example that, you know, Packer who comes in all the time and is like talking about how he's having sex while he's women on the road. 0.94

00:34:29.560 And he's always groping people and making inappropriate jokes. 0.95

00:34:32.640 Everybody knows a guy like that.

00:34:34.400 And if they got accused of something, you'd say that does not surprise me at all.

00:34:37.780 Right.

00:34:38.400 That is Donald Trump.

00:34:40.400 Come on.

00:34:41.480 Well, are you really?

00:34:43.540 Is anybody surprised by Stormy Daniels?

00:34:46.620 OK, it did happen.

00:34:47.700 Didn't happen.

00:34:48.360 I don't know.

00:34:49.140 But it wouldn't be surprising if it did.

00:34:51.800 Because we know his character and what he's what he's all about.

00:34:56.800 He's had he was famous for his sort of womanizing ways and talked about it on Howard Stern openly.

00:35:02.060 But that's different than, you know, if you had heard someone talking like Trump talked on the bus constantly.

00:35:08.240 You would think, OK, this person is might be doing these things.

00:35:12.460 Yes.

00:35:12.720 However, that's, you know, not necessarily the way he's always talking.

00:35:16.020 All right.

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00:36:29.120 We have some new suggestions for new terms for body parts.

00:36:36.260 You had a problem with Froll?

00:36:37.420 Well, I had a problem with Froll because it autocorrects to Dragon, which doesn't work.

00:36:42.060 That would be front hole. 0.93

00:36:43.420 Right.

00:36:44.060 We started that to Froll or Behole. 0.99

00:36:46.480 Yeah.

00:36:47.000 But Froll doesn't work because I also have my mouth and my, you know, my nose holes and my ocular cavities.

00:36:54.280 So we've been going with Frouth for mouth.

00:36:59.600 But Fragina, Freenis, Froobies, pretty acceptable. 0.98

00:37:02.700 Right.

00:37:03.180 The Banis is something that people are talking about.

00:37:05.880 We've also been hearing from people at World of Stew for their terms that they want to implement here.

00:37:09.240 And the Froveries.

00:37:11.380 Froveries.

00:37:11.960 Have been, I think, acceptable.

00:37:14.460 And Fresticles is one, I think.

00:37:18.620 Froveries.

00:37:19.180 Froveries aren't in the front.

00:37:20.440 They're inside.

00:37:21.900 Look, I'm not a doctor here.

00:37:23.980 Well, it doesn't take a doctor.

00:37:25.880 We remember.

00:37:26.840 Where do you feel they are?

00:37:28.320 That's, I think, the more important question.

00:37:30.420 Not where they are, but how do you, where do you feel they are?

00:37:33.040 I feel that they're in the refrigerator in that little egg, plastic egg thing.

00:37:36.960 Oh, fridge.

00:37:37.840 Froveries works perfectly then.

00:37:39.320 Okay, good.

00:37:40.000 Overees in the fridge.

00:37:40.760 I like that.

00:37:41.540 Okay, good.

00:37:41.960 There we go.

00:37:42.500 All right.

00:37:43.080 Another problem solved.

00:37:44.460 Welcome to Postmodernism 101 on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:37:49.200 Glenn Beck.

00:37:50.860 Washington Times published an interesting op-ed a few days ago.

00:37:54.100 It's a list of conditions, criteria, that in author L. Todd Wood's words would be used to destroy society.

00:38:02.680 He said, quote, if I want to destroy an enemy society and I had a long-term focus, I wanted to do it, you know, stealth and effectively, I would make the society destroy itself and I'd take away the ability for it to defend itself.

00:38:18.980 So I would do the following.

00:38:20.660 Step one, I would destroy the religious ideals that brought the country together and held it together, allowing it to thrive and be exceptional. 0.98

00:38:28.760 In short, I would destroy, in the West, Christianity. 1.00

00:38:31.660 Two, I would destroy the family, the fabric of society. 0.97

00:38:35.840 I would tear apart the nuclear family that produced stable children, future contributors to the nation's wealth and power. 1.00

00:38:42.400 A society that does not reproduce is a dying society.

00:38:46.480 Three, I would promote the concept of toxic masculinity and extremist feminism. 1.00

00:38:51.780 What better way to make a society less masculine, less able to field a strong military? 0.72

00:38:56.740 In short, I would feminize the male population, making it less effective in battle. 0.99

00:39:02.520 Four, I would destroy the education system. 0.96

00:39:05.040 I'd plant Marxist professors throughout the university system, teaching new generations nothing about American history, but filling their heads full of communist nonsense and propaganda.

00:39:16.120 They would know nothing of Washington, Lincoln or Jefferson, but they would know of Malcolm X and Lenin.

00:39:21.620 Five, I would divide the races. 0.97

00:39:24.500 What better way and what better method of dividing and conquering than to foster a race war, filling minorities' heads full of lies of police brutality and developing a culture of hate towards law enforcement? 0.87

00:39:38.980 Six, I would corrupt the federal government.

00:39:41.000 I'd fill the intelligence and security services with traitors to the nation's founding.

00:39:46.400 When any political figure arose that threatened my diabolical agenda, I would use these corrupt agencies to target and frame any rising star who loved America, even if he was a duly elected president of the United States.

00:39:57.380 Seven, I would take away the population's means to defend itself, meaning I would take away their guns.

00:40:04.740 The fear of an armed population would stop any invasion.

00:40:08.740 I'd have to get rid of this problem.

00:40:10.400 Eight, I would destroy self-reliance and ingenuity by making over half of the population dependent on the government, unable to take care of themselves.

00:40:20.040 Nine, I would use big tech to completely remove any viewpoint or ideas that were associated with the old America. 0.65

00:40:27.940 I would ban them from the Internet.

00:40:30.040 Heck, I'd take over the Internet.

00:40:31.240 I'd work with tyrannical powers all over the world to develop Internet censorship to eventually prevent any opposing views to be heard by anyone.

00:40:41.880 Ten, I would corrupt the nation's leadership with money, finding those who would sell out their country for pieces of silver.

00:40:47.520 I'd make sure that they were strategically placed in powerful positions on all sides.

00:40:52.080 I'd shell out money through the legislature to make sure no laws were passed to oppose my agenda.

00:40:56.820 Eleven, I would promote the disrespect of the nation's symbols.

00:41:02.600 Yes, I would have people kneel during the national anthem.

00:41:05.000 I would burn the flag, tear down statues of the nation's history.

00:41:08.460 I would make sure people hate the very fabric of the nation that gave them such wealth and power. 0.68

00:41:14.180 Twelve, I would find a straw man or a straw country who was also a malicious adversary to America,

00:41:21.820 though much less powerful, and I would focus all the negative energy and recriminations towards this straw man country.

00:41:28.620 In this manner, the targeted nation would be ignorant of my true intentions.

00:41:33.620 He warns in his article, everything I've just written is happening right now in front of our eyes.

00:41:40.600 It is difficult to disagree with him.

00:41:43.960 It's Tuesday, August 21st.

00:41:54.500 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:58.400 My new book, Addicted to Outrage, comes out here in the next couple of weeks.

00:42:05.160 September 18th is when it's available in stores.

00:42:07.800 I ask you to go to Amazon and pick up a copy.

00:42:10.340 It is not just a look at what's happening today.

00:42:15.220 Some of it is very, very funny.

00:42:16.940 Some of it is pretty terrifying.

00:42:19.660 It's a look at today, tomorrow, and our history.

00:42:22.800 And it asks in the middle of it five important questions that we have to ask ourselves as a nation.

00:42:29.960 If we want to save the Western society, is it worth saving?

00:42:34.200 Are we good or are we bad?

00:42:36.280 I use the example in the book of Winston Churchill.

00:42:42.380 I'm a huge Churchill fan. 0.91

00:42:44.560 But if you were from India, Churchill was a monster. 1.00

00:42:49.840 So which is he? 0.70

00:42:51.020 Is he good or bad?

00:42:53.600 Arthur Herman is the author of Gandhi and Churchill, finalist for the Pulitzer Prize.

00:42:59.420 But he's also the author of one of my favorite books, Freedom's Forge.

00:43:02.460 It came out a few years ago.

00:43:03.600 And I've wanted to have him on the show for quite some time.

00:43:08.120 But he's here with us today.

00:43:09.760 Arthur, welcome to the program.

00:43:11.120 How are you?

00:43:12.280 I'm doing very well.

00:43:13.500 It's a pleasure to be on.

00:43:14.640 Hey, are you going to send me a copy of your new book?

00:43:17.460 Yes, I will.

00:43:18.240 If you'd send me a copy of, you know, Freedom's Forge signed, I would cherish it.

00:43:24.980 Delighted to do that.

00:43:25.720 Yeah, Freedom's Forge, and we'll get into it a little while, Freedom's Forge is just a tremendous, tremendous history book that I think everybody should have.

00:43:37.080 I appreciate that.

00:43:38.240 Let me go back to Churchill and Gandhi. 0.71

00:43:42.500 Sure.

00:43:42.780 If you were from, you know, India, you see Gandhi completely different, not Gandhi, Churchill completely differently than those in the West do.

00:43:51.960 Yeah, I think that's probably true, especially today.

00:43:55.980 I would say less so during the wartime period when you saw that there was a lot of respect, including by Gandhi, for Churchill for his defiant stand against the Nazis and his ability to really rally Britain,

00:44:13.140 which a lot of Indians thought, hey, you know, Britain, it's on the decline, it's losing its credibility around the world, it's an imperialist power.

00:44:24.180 And they were, I think, quite shocked and surprised with the way in which Churchill was able to rally the British people and then basically rally the free world to fight against Nazism.

00:44:34.520 But you're right, today, a lot of the focus is on Churchill, you know, as a white supremacist, as supposedly the guy who triggered the Great Bengal Famine during the course of the war in 43-44.

00:44:50.260 You don't think so?

00:44:52.620 No, I don't think so at all.

00:44:54.140 I think what you come to realize about the Great Bengal Famine is it was a concatenation of bad circumstances, the loss of Burma, which had been India's main source for rice imports,

00:45:09.600 and a lot of mishandling on the ground by the British bureaucracy, the civil service bureaucracy basically failed to deal with the problem that for 30 years they had been assuring Indians they could deal with.

00:45:23.280 I mean, it's big government in action, Glenn, and they failed utterly until Churchill appointed Archibald Wavell as viceroy,

00:45:34.100 and he managed to turn the situation around with Churchill's encouragement.

00:45:38.460 So, you know, Churchill, if I may speak on this subject, people talk about the similarities between Churchill and Donald Trump,

00:45:45.780 and I don't think sometimes that's a bit overblown, but Churchill had his own version of tweets,

00:45:51.380 which was his outbursts, especially in front of the War Council, in which he would denounce India for bothering him about the food shipments

00:46:04.380 and about the need to divert food supplies to India when they were needed for the armed forces,

00:46:12.380 and he was capable of saying some quite shocking things.

00:46:16.220 And so, just as people focus on Trump's Twitter feed and think that that's a clue to understanding his mind and his policies,

00:46:26.140 there's been a tendency to look at Churchill's kind of irritated outbursts.

00:46:30.700 He had a lot in his mind in 1943.

00:46:32.960 Yeah, a little bit.

00:46:33.880 A little bit.

00:46:34.500 And having to deal with a crisis far, far away in a country which was already plunged into chaos because of civil disobedience

00:46:47.400 kind of strained his patience.

00:46:51.240 And so he said things, let off steam, that historians today, particularly certain Indian historians,

00:46:57.500 capitalize on as a way to promote the idea that Churchill was somehow either responsible for

00:47:04.600 or even the architect of the Great Bengal Famine.

00:47:07.560 It was a terrible famine.

00:47:08.720 One and a half million people died.

00:47:11.700 But Churchill's responsibility for this shrinks away when you look at what the real situation was

00:47:18.260 and understand it in the course of the history of India under British rule.

00:47:22.600 Talking to one of my favorite authors and historians, senior fellow of the Hudson Institute, Arthur Herman,

00:47:29.320 author of Freedom's Forge, also Gandhi and Churchill.

00:47:33.860 Wouldn't you say that all great men are both good and bad when you look back through the eyes of today's history,

00:47:44.840 that there is no perfect man? 0.74

00:47:47.300 Gandhi was a racist as well.

00:47:50.020 He didn't see the plight of the Africans, which was very similar to his own in India. 0.93

00:48:00.680 He didn't want to be seated on the same train car with an African. 1.00

00:48:05.520 Yes, as the derogatory term of the day, the equivalent of the N-word for us, kafirs. 0.86

00:48:12.520 And Gandhi was fairly contemptuous of the blacks in South Africa.

00:48:18.560 But that doesn't explain in the book, he began his civil disobedience campaigns in South Africa

00:48:27.920 to call attention to the plight of Indians living there who he believed, I think correctly,

00:48:36.560 should be treated with the same rights as any other British subject.

00:48:40.480 But his big complaint was that they had been relegated on the other side of the color line,

00:48:46.020 away from white inhabitants and citizens in South Africa,

00:48:51.660 but then relegated to the same side as South Africa's blacks.

00:48:56.660 He wanted Indians pushed to the correct side, the upper side. 1.00

00:49:00.680 Right. 0.96

00:49:01.000 With nothing to say about the blacks. 0.97

00:49:03.280 Very little to say about that.

00:49:05.860 It was not his concern, and it was not an issue that really motivated his multiple visits

00:49:13.500 with the British with regard to the Indian presence in Africa generally.

00:49:20.520 He was a nationalist.

00:49:22.000 I mean, and this is one of the things that I think both he and, as I explain in the book,

00:49:25.660 both he and Churchill were both very strong nationalists.

00:49:30.460 And Gandhi has come to be given a kind of this universalist, globalist kind of agenda

00:49:36.960 because of his pacifism and his belief in passive resistance.

00:49:41.100 But he was an Indian nationalist from beginning to end, and that's what drove him,

00:49:45.480 and that was his legacy.

00:49:48.140 So do you walk away feeling the same way about Gandhi and Churchill,

00:49:52.160 that you could just concentrate?

00:49:54.940 What I'm driving towards is we're asking now if America is a good place or a bad place.

00:50:01.020 It's both.

00:50:02.280 It's both.

00:50:03.060 It's what are we—are we getting better or are we getting worse?

00:50:06.580 I think we're getting better in the long term.

00:50:10.000 We're getting much better as a people.

00:50:12.000 But we've done horrible things.

00:50:13.860 We've done really amazing, great things.

00:50:16.320 We're neither bad nor good.

00:50:18.800 We're both.

00:50:19.480 And that's what the proper study of history should bring, Glenn,

00:50:22.960 and also of the study of historical figures.

00:50:26.440 I think you're absolutely on the mark here.

00:50:28.280 And, you know, what I've written about—

00:50:30.300 look at my record of biographies, the Gandhi and Churchill book,

00:50:34.440 my book on Douglas MacArthur,

00:50:36.340 reaching back almost 20 years, my book on Joseph McCarthy.

00:50:39.340 You know, I did a book on McCarthy,

00:50:40.600 and what I explained in there was that, yeah, there was a lot of bad about McCarthy.

00:50:45.600 There was a lot of good, too.

00:50:46.700 He was on to a real issue, namely the communist conspiracy to subvert the U.S. government

00:50:53.160 and the way in which it had infiltrated into the federal government in the 1930s and 1940s.

00:50:59.900 But people were outraged because, in many cases, people want, you know,

00:51:04.340 they want saints and villains.

00:51:07.580 Yeah.

00:51:08.040 And it's really hard to do—it's really hard with a handful of characters in history.

00:51:14.360 I think you know who they are.

00:51:15.380 It's really hard to find ones in democratic Western societies who fit either one of those bills.

00:51:22.760 So let me break here, and then I want to pick it up because I think McCarthy is a really great example.

00:51:30.340 I first started reading about McCarthy and realizing, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:51:35.160 He's not this, you know, black-cloaked Darth Vader, you know, villain every step of the way.

00:51:44.000 He really did have some things right.

00:51:47.120 But if we can't recognize that nuance, because we're now in a society where you're either 100% in the boat or on the train,

00:51:55.700 or you're 100% off the train.

00:51:58.700 And that's not where a healthy society should be.

00:52:02.820 We'll pick it up there when we come back.

00:52:05.220 Arthur Herman, you must read his work.

00:52:09.360 Especially, start with Freedom's Forge.

00:52:11.000 It's just remarkable.

00:52:12.720 We'll talk about it here in just a second.

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00:53:32.720 Author, historian, senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, Arthur Herman is joining us.

00:53:39.740 He's written several books.

00:53:42.120 You need to read them all.

00:53:43.160 Freedom's Forge, Gandhi, and Churchill are two that I can't recommend highly enough.

00:53:50.280 Arthur, can you draw parallels between today and the Red Scare?

00:53:58.360 Are we facing a new form of McCarthyism, except it's now the hunt for those who will not abide 0.80

00:54:07.020 with postmodernism?

00:54:09.660 Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth to that.

00:54:13.000 And what we come to realize is when you really study the history of intellectuals, right?

00:54:19.360 And that would be an interesting book, wouldn't it?

00:54:21.500 Intellectuals through history, particularly in the modern age.

00:54:24.120 And what you come to realize is that contrary to their own self-image, they don't tend to be really supporters of liberty and freedom.

00:54:34.360 You look at the role that, for example, German academics played during the Nazi period, when they basically closed ranks with the government,

00:54:44.140 expelled their Jewish colleagues, and signed petitions lining up in support of the Third Reich. 0.64

00:54:53.360 During the 1930s, you had a similar group, think, on the far left, supporting communists and fellow traveler organizations signing petitions,

00:55:05.060 which got them into trouble in the 1950s.

00:55:07.260 And then in the 1950s, when there were attacks on dissent and scrutiny from government about the curricula that was being used in classes,

00:55:23.600 in sociology, and in the social sciences generally, in literature,

00:55:30.180 where the universities, with a few exceptions, basically went along with the attacks.

00:55:36.380 When Bertrand Russell, for example, the British philosopher, was denied entry into the country because of his atheism,

00:55:47.480 there were some academics who stood up for his right to speak, even if they disagreed, like Sidney Hook,

00:55:52.940 and there were others who did not, many others who didn't.

00:55:55.840 And I think what we're seeing right now is that the radicalization, the long march through the institutions,

00:56:02.360 remember that line from the 1960s, has really come into its own in the American Academy,

00:56:09.240 in the humanities, in the liberal arts, and in the social sciences.

00:56:14.280 And what they've done is to create a kind of, I'm going to use this term, intellectual gulag,

00:56:19.860 in the sense that if you don't adhere to the party line, if you even waver from it or express doubt about the wisdom of having such a party line,

00:56:31.020 then punishment is meted out to you, not beatings and attacks, unless, of course, you're Charles Murray,

00:56:38.280 but with being silenced and being denied tenure and coming under attack.

00:56:44.060 The difference, of course, Glenn, and the irony is that this is all being done,

00:56:48.360 not as a result of government pressure being put to bear on institutions,

00:56:52.320 as was the case, you know, with the universities in Nazi Germany or universities during the so-called Red Scare.

00:56:59.500 This is pressure coming from within, from administrators and radicals.

00:57:04.080 If you look at Nazi Germany, though, a lot of that was internal pressure as well, not just from the government.

00:57:11.140 I mean, especially when it comes to science, the, you know, the doctors and the nurses were...

00:57:16.560 That's right, which I've written about, as you know, written about in my Idea of Decline book,

00:57:20.480 about the influence of race science and eugenics, all done, of course, in the interest of progressive...

00:57:27.800 Progress, yeah.

00:57:28.540 Progress and progressive ideologies, including socialism, but with horrendous effects later on.

00:57:35.420 We can, hang on just a second, we continue our conversation in just a moment with Arthur Herman,

00:57:40.080 author and historian, continues in a minute, stand by.

00:57:47.980 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:57:49.920 Historian and just fantastic, fantastic author, Arthur Herman is with us, he's a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.

00:57:59.000 He has written The Idea of Decline in the West, MacArthur, 1917, I mean, it's about Wilson, you had me at hello.

00:58:08.460 And one of my favorite books, Freedom's Forge.

00:58:14.520 Welcome back to the program.

00:58:16.340 It's a pleasure.

00:58:16.940 So let's talk a little bit about the cycle of American history.

00:58:23.660 And where do you think we are, Arthur?

00:58:26.780 Have we been here before?

00:58:28.940 And do we survive?

00:58:33.120 Okay, that's right.

00:58:34.580 Put your historian on the spot.

00:58:37.540 Yes.

00:58:37.980 And they can pull out his crystal ball.

00:58:39.780 That's right.

00:58:40.200 Well, I will tell you, I, I, with you, unlike you, I share a great optimism about where the American experiment is headed long term.

00:58:50.160 I think we're in a very unhealthy place right now.

00:58:53.760 But these have happened in American history.

00:58:56.680 You know, we had a, we had a, had a moment like this in 1860.

00:59:01.960 By the way, that is not to say that I think we're on the verge of a 1860, 1861 type of national catastrophe.

00:59:10.520 But I think that the aspect of division that's taken place here, a division which really is going to be very difficult for us to resolve with kind of the normal politics and the way in which these issues have been resolved in the past.

00:59:27.960 You know, we had terrible divisions during the McCarthy period.

00:59:31.520 You know, people were routinely accusing Truman and his band of advisors of being traitors, of being basically the tools of Moscow.

00:59:39.840 We had terrible divisions.

00:59:41.820 You remember them in 1968.

00:59:43.680 You know, I was a kid.

00:59:45.580 I was thoroughly radicalized, tried to convince my parents that I needed to go to the Chicago Convention.

00:59:51.100 They said, you're 11 years old.

00:59:52.780 I don't think you're going to go to the Chicago Convention on your own.

00:59:55.800 But I watched, you know, I watched the convention, watched the riots, the coverage, the riots of the media there.

01:00:02.080 Abraham Ribicoff telling, you know, Richard Daly that his police were using Gestapo tactics on the streets of Chicago.

01:00:09.760 I saw all that live.

01:00:11.780 But there was a, but there was a, we hadn't lost the entire university system.

01:00:17.180 We hadn't had our children indoctrinated into, into this post-modernist stuff that is absolute poison.

01:00:25.800 It is.

01:00:26.580 And I think also we didn't have the kind of social media.

01:00:31.660 Everybody trashes social media.

01:00:33.480 I think social media in the end has been a tremendous benefit.

01:00:38.460 And I think it will be a very powerful and constructive tool.

01:00:42.260 But what it has, what has happened in the short term, and this is what happened with the printing press, you know, in the 16th century, is that it's become a means by which every kook and every angry person now is able to express themselves in more and more violent and more and more extreme terms.

01:01:01.900 And I think what we've reached is a kind of cycle of verbal violence in our media, not just the social media, but the mainstream media.

01:01:10.480 Turn on CNN and look and see what happens there or MSNBC.

01:01:14.760 And I think we have a president right now who, unlike other politicians, doesn't try to avoid conflict and, you know, and veers towards compromise at every turn.

01:01:26.620 He seeks out conflict.

01:01:27.900 And I think that's one of the reasons why he was sent to Washington by the voters, was that they said, look, you are going to be our bull in the China shop because there's a lot of crockery there that badly needs breaking. 0.74

01:01:41.040 And we're in the we're washing the breakage and the reaction of those whose livelihoods, whose careers, whose worldviews were built on that old, decaying Washington establishment.

01:01:54.820 And I think there's going to be a fight to the finish here, Glenn.

01:01:58.080 So I don't think it's I don't think I don't think that Trump won't quit.

01:02:02.400 I don't think Mueller and the political establishment are going to quit.

01:02:06.100 I think they're too committed into this.

01:02:08.600 And it's going to be a fight as to which to the end when which one edifice or the other collapses.

01:02:14.300 I think the Washington establishment is the one that's going to be the loser in all this.

01:02:19.240 And I think that we are going to come out a lot stronger with a renewal of the American experiment as a result of it.

01:02:28.480 But it's going to be it's going to be an ugly process.

01:02:32.000 So how do you when you have people now on both sides that are so angry, so they feel like they've been squashed, not listened to the other side isn't listening.

01:02:41.580 So why should I listen to you?

01:02:43.740 You know, there's such distrust.

01:02:45.880 I mean, right now, you know, I think the average the average Democrat feels very much like I do.

01:02:53.020 They're tired of all of this stuff.

01:02:54.640 They just want more welfare.

01:02:55.880 That doesn't make them a communist or a socialist.

01:02:58.260 They just want bigger state programs.

01:02:59.940 And the same with the right.

01:03:03.700 They feel like there is a loss of their culture and their heritage, which does not make them a Nazi or an identarian.

01:03:14.620 It makes them a concerned citizen about, hey, my culture is is important, too.

01:03:21.680 And so we're we're taking those real things and pushing them off and making them nonsense to the other side.

01:03:29.800 And that's not allowing us to address the real feelings of real, actual people.

01:03:35.900 No, it's not.

01:03:37.000 And it and it leads to that sense of of of division, which feels more or less more or less permanent, which I don't think is the case.

01:03:44.400 But it's been heightened by the way in which the media now has become a means by which to whip it, to whip up this kind of frenzy in this kind of hysteria, social media included, of course.

01:03:55.000 But I think that I think the worries on both sides are very real.

01:03:58.340 You know, you look at the 20 somethings, right, who have signed on to socialism, their minds having been infected with the idea that socialism, even communism, is a viable alternative to capitalism or even a superior alternative to capitalism, because they don't know the history.

01:04:14.220 They don't know the reality of countries like Cuba, Venezuela, Cambodia in the past and the Soviet Union in the in the cold in the Cold War days under Lenin and Stalin and others.

01:04:27.320 But what drives them is a deep anxiety about where their future lies.

01:04:33.180 You know, when you have an entire generation, Glenn, who are saddled with, you know, five figure student debt coming out of school and who have that millstone around their necks, which they can't escape and in which their earning power in real terms is reduced in order to to to serve that,

01:04:53.520 who have a feeling that the degrees to which they were convinced by their advisers and by universities that they needed to get in conflict resolution or sociology or international relations is actually not going to get them very far anywhere to solve the problems of where they want to go in the life that they want.

01:05:13.820 They're going to look to government to solve that problem. And then you look at the people who supported Trump and who still do in the sense that they were abandoned.

01:05:21.620 Trump calls him the forgotten man. Right. Borrowing a term from our friend, Amity Schlaes, that the forgotten man of the 1930s is now the forgotten communities in America's heartland in the 19 in the 1990s and the 2000s. 0.68

01:05:35.800 And for them, what they see is just as you were saying is an America that they grew up with, America whose promise was part of the way in which those communities live together and were able to find solidarity, being pulled apart, being denigrated, being attacked from the opening moments of the NFL game to the way in which immigrants and illegal immigrants from stream across the border. 0.92

01:06:05.700 And are considered by one political party is more of that their lives, more valuable and their their welfare, more important than those of their fellow Americans.

01:06:15.280 And you are you are definitely having a setting up a situation, a formula for some really serious social and political conflict.

01:06:26.140 And that's kind of where we're stuck right now. Not forever. This is where we are now.

01:06:30.600 You know, you know, better than most. The one thing we haven't injected into this is real fear like a war.

01:06:39.580 I mean, you know, you wonder how anyone could believe that aliens were attacking, you know, when Orson Welles did War of the Worlds.

01:06:47.860 It wasn't that the medium was it wasn't just that the medium was new.

01:06:52.180 They were used to hearing all about this foreign enemy that was going to be invading and the fear lived.

01:07:01.920 They were living it daily. Plus, you add into that any kind of economic collapse.

01:07:08.040 We don't have the infrastructure anymore. I mean, the the personal infrastructure anymore to be the people that we were that our grandparents were.

01:07:17.860 Now, we face some enormous challenges, Glenn. And I've been talking about this.

01:07:23.080 You know, the Freedom's Forge is a book which is now really beginning to grab the attention of policymakers at the Pentagon and elsewhere.

01:07:31.820 And two weeks ago, in fact, I was at a meeting at the National Defense University organized by the Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment,

01:07:41.840 which is the one that looks that's the office that looks ahead what's coming up on the horizon.

01:07:46.240 And the discussion was, would the United States be able to mobilize in the event of a protracted conflict with a near peer competitor?

01:07:54.300 And they brought me there to talk about it. Freedom's Forge has become very much sort of one of the one of the key texts for discussing these issues about mobilization at the Pentagon,

01:08:04.540 also with the White House. And it's very gratifying to see that happen and know that your words can have an impact, you know, on where policy is going.

01:08:14.480 But what I stress to them, as I said, look, from the point of view of mobilization, we've got two issues.

01:08:19.480 One is on the technical and industrial side. And there's a there's a host of reasons why this is going to become a challenge.

01:08:26.480 There's, you know, our traditional defense industrial base has decayed. There's no doubt about that.

01:08:31.760 We're going to have to look in World War Two. We had the industrial base that was necessary and sufficient to mobilize.

01:08:38.560 Today, we're going to have to have a global supply chain and look to our allies to help that with the new technologies that under that underpin weapon systems of the future.

01:08:47.820 Under AI and quantum technology and 3D printing and robotics, that we're going to have this is a whole different way of thinking about what an industrial base is.

01:08:59.100 We'll have to look at commercial companies. But Glenn, the other thing that I stress to them was the real obstacle we're going to face is not in the industrial economic areas, in the cultural area.

01:09:09.620 In World War Two, when Bill Newton, as I described in my book, went to meet his fellow colleagues in the auto industry and their suppliers and said, we need to help build planes, to build parts for planes, to build tanks.

01:09:25.120 They said, Bill, we'll do it. Our country calls and we'll answer.

01:09:28.860 I don't think we have that kind of response from our leading industrial and economic powers today, especially in Silicon Valley.

01:09:36.300 If you look at what Google did with 3,000 employees protesting Google's contract to work with the Pentagon on Project Maven and saying, we don't want to go in that way.

01:09:49.740 And then on the other side, you've got Google building in China an AI research center hiring Chinese research scientists who are developing AI.

01:10:00.940 They're going to be using for their military. We have a problem.

01:10:04.520 Arthur, I have to tell you something.

01:10:06.600 You're going to love my new book. You and I should be best friends.

01:10:10.220 I don't know why you are concerned with exactly the same things I'm concerned about.

01:10:18.340 I know this has taken a long time for some reason.

01:10:21.080 Maybe it's our fault of getting you on the air.

01:10:23.560 But I would love to, A, I'd love to invite you back just to talk about Freedom's Forge.

01:10:28.000 And if we could do that soon, that'd be great if you have time.

01:10:30.420 And I'd also like to bring you down and just spend a few hours with you on air because you are, your voice needs to be heard.

01:10:40.400 You have the history to back it up.

01:10:42.540 And we are facing things.

01:10:44.960 I mean, when you start talking about future wars and tech in Silicon Valley, you are right on the money.

01:10:52.660 And I don't know what to do about it.

01:10:55.100 Well, I think we should really talk about this and get your audience involved with this, too.

01:10:59.480 Because we are facing a high-tech STEM crisis, you know, science, technology, engineering, and math crisis, that is really going to affect how we're able to handle national security issues in the next decade.

01:11:12.200 And this is something that needs to be addressed now.

01:11:15.440 The Pentagon is getting its mind around it, but we need to get the American public behind it.

01:11:19.940 I've been talking about a Manhattan project for this very thing.

01:11:24.180 We'll hang on the phone.

01:11:25.680 I want to get some information from you, and let's book you to spend some more time with us.

01:11:30.700 Arthur Herman, the Hudson Institute, author and historian.

01:11:36.240 Read Freedom's Forge.

01:11:37.920 It's fantastic.

01:11:38.980 Read it.

01:11:39.800 Nice.

01:11:40.380 Get a room.

01:11:44.320 He's awesome.

01:11:44.960 He's awesome.

01:11:45.760 Yeah.

01:11:46.160 I mean, it's like...

01:11:46.920 He knows everything.

01:11:47.700 Yeah.

01:11:48.260 It's like talking to a smart me.

01:11:51.720 I have no experience with that.

01:11:53.340 That's so weird.

01:11:53.860 I know.

01:11:54.160 Well, you just heard it.

01:11:55.240 He's a smart me.

01:11:56.300 He's got the facts, you know.

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01:14:33.240 My hands shook in terror as a barrage of sniper and military gun rounds pinged off the friendly Iraqi army tank,

01:14:41.680 our only refuge, and slammed in the ground around us.

01:14:45.060 The tank's exhaust singed the hair on our hands and our arms as we screamed for the little girl.

01:14:51.160 Crawl to us.

01:14:52.580 To all, to all, come here, come here, we shouted over the roar of the ISIS bullets and air bursts from friendly artillery smokescreen.

01:15:00.920 We were less than 20 feet from her, but we might as well have been on another planet.

01:15:04.200 The tank fired its main guns, blowing a hole in the former hospital from which we were taking most of the gunfire.

01:15:12.000 Boom! 0.99

01:15:13.160 The sound was deafening, replacing the battle's cacophony with painful ringing in my ears, but the little girl didn't even blink.

01:15:21.200 She's in shock.

01:15:22.280 Somehow she had survived the massacre when ISIS had opened fire on civilians fleeing the city.

01:15:29.580 It was almost two days ago, and now in a pile of rotting corpses, she huddled next to her dead mother's body,

01:15:36.180 suffering an even more cruel demise under the relentless desert sun.

01:15:40.460 No doubt ISIS had left her as bait, and we had taken it.

01:15:45.240 But we were her only chance.

01:15:47.080 I'm going to get the girl, I called David, our team leader.

01:15:50.920 No, no, no, no, no, he grabbed my arm.

01:15:52.900 There's not enough smoke!

01:15:54.820 In spite of the adrenaline coursing through my body, it only took me a fraction of a second to know he was right.

01:16:01.160 I would have been shot to pieces.

01:16:03.160 David, who's borderline fearless, had seen a lot more combat, knew what he was doing.

01:16:08.580 I decided just to shut up and let him give the orders.

01:16:11.420 He pulled out his cell phone and called the U.S. military commander stationed several miles away.

01:16:15.300 We need more smoke, he yelled over the noise, and shoved the phone back into his pocket.

01:16:19.780 Get ready to give me some covering fire when the smoke comes in.

01:16:22.480 Copy that, I turned to Sky, a former Marine and a team member,

01:16:25.940 who, like the rest of us, had volunteered for this suicidal rescue mission.

01:16:29.760 We'd all seen the aftermath of ISIS massacres, whole families, babies even, slaughtered in the streets.

01:16:35.480 You go inboard, I'll go outboard, I said,

01:16:37.800 meaning that Sky would take one step out from behind the tank to shoot, 0.98

01:16:41.720 and I would take three, so that we'd avoid each other's field of fire.

01:16:45.900 Roger, Sky nodded.

01:16:48.100 Since the assault on West Mosul exactly 30 days ago, our team had been through a lot,

01:16:52.680 but we knew how to work together.

01:16:54.600 Seconds later, a round of smoke hit right on the target,

01:16:57.520 sending a hundred balls of fire harmlessly into the middle of the war-torn and body-strewn Mosul Highway.

01:17:03.440 Beside the Iraqi tank, the only support we had left,

01:17:06.260 but like the rest of the battles to retake the city, the fiercest urban conflict since World War II,

01:17:11.520 this was an Iraqi ground forces operation.

01:17:14.140 We had only volunteered to help.

01:17:15.900 There was no cavalry to call in.

01:17:17.800 It was just us, a few AK-47s, the tank, and some smoke.

01:17:22.180 Okay, guys, wait for it.

01:17:23.520 David grabbed my shirt and glanced around the tank.

01:17:25.980 Suddenly, he sprinted off to get the little girl.

01:17:28.120 Sky and I jumped from behind the tank and started dumping rounds into the ISIS-held hospital,

01:17:32.380 which was still visible through the smoke.

01:17:33.980 My ancient AK-47, a subpar weapon at best,

01:17:38.100 and not what you would expect a former Navy SEAL to carry in a showdown,

01:17:41.320 was full of tracer rounds as I watched each of the bullets streaking through the clouds of smoke

01:17:46.300 and arched into the dark windows of the hospital.

01:17:49.280 Whoever was firing from that position only moments ago was now taking cover,

01:17:53.200 but there were dozens of other windows we weren't hitting.

01:17:56.340 If a sniper had me in his sights, I was toast.

01:17:59.460 We all were.

01:18:00.120 As a member of the Free Burma Rangers, I'd been preparing myself to be okay with death,

01:18:06.240 because this rescue, this battle, and most importantly, these people, were worth it.

01:18:12.700 But in order to understand that, you must first understand where I come from

01:18:17.000 and how I came to this moment.

01:18:19.440 Ephraim Mateos, that is the city of death.

01:18:25.500 It's a new book coming out, Humanitarian Warriors in the Battle of Mosul.

01:18:30.820 Ephraim is joining us now.

01:18:33.400 I saw you in a, I saw you in that battle.

01:18:38.040 The world saw you in that battle.

01:18:40.400 You were shot in the leg right after that in a video that I don't even know how many millions of downloads it has now.

01:18:48.540 Yeah, there's probably a hundred million views out there just from the different sources.

01:18:52.760 Yeah.

01:18:53.100 And you, everybody remembers it.

01:18:55.720 You, the three of you were standing behind this tank and your leader, David,

01:19:00.520 who you say is borderline fearless.

01:19:03.140 Some might say borderline insane.

01:19:05.100 Yeah.

01:19:05.700 It's a fine line.

01:19:06.640 Yeah, he went, he went and got this little girl and you, you saved her.

01:19:10.540 And you, as you were moving out, you were shot in the leg.

01:19:13.940 Yeah.

01:19:14.340 A bullet went through my, through my right calf.

01:19:16.540 It was, as far as gunshot wounds go is, it was minimal.

01:19:20.440 Went right through the leg.

01:19:21.600 No, it didn't hit the bone, didn't hit any arteries.

01:19:24.440 So it was very lucky.

01:19:26.100 Yeah.

01:19:26.260 So a bandaid and you're moving on.

01:19:27.480 Yeah, a bandaid is fine.

01:19:28.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:29.400 So you say you have to know where you come from and you were a Navy SEAL and you were,

01:19:34.760 you had gone scene battle and you went back for more training, et cetera, et cetera.

01:19:40.980 And you were kind of, you, you went into a really deep depression at that time.

01:19:45.960 How come?

01:19:46.840 I did.

01:19:47.220 I, I joined the military very, for very idealistic reasons.

01:19:51.260 I wanted to serve my country.

01:19:52.580 I wanted to help other people.

01:19:54.360 And I wanted to do that as, as a soldier, sort of representing my country and representing

01:19:59.400 good, if you will, on the battlefield and go to places where other people necessarily

01:20:03.340 can't go.

01:20:04.840 And so when I was in the military, you know, you, you specifically the SEAL teams, you

01:20:08.780 have this 18 month workup that you do, you're just training, and then you do a six month

01:20:12.800 deployment.

01:20:13.400 Now, during that six month deployment, you may or may not, you know, be sent on actual

01:20:17.840 combat operations and things that you signed up to do.

01:20:20.620 Right.

01:20:21.200 And so I got to do that.

01:20:23.260 I got to experience that.

01:20:24.200 But then during my, during my time, it was just, it was, there was a lot of training,

01:20:27.940 which you, you, you need to do that to be good.

01:20:30.040 Right.

01:20:30.300 If you want to be, if you want to be a SEAL, you got to train hard.

01:20:32.780 Um, but it just wasn't quite enough for me.

01:20:34.880 And I felt like, um, I felt like I could do more.

01:20:37.680 I felt like I, I wanted to every day, wake up and go do something to help other people

01:20:42.700 and not just train over and over.

01:20:44.160 And so that's when you, um, that's when you joined the free Burma Rangers.

01:20:48.760 Yeah.

01:20:49.120 About, about a year and a half ago, my time in the Navy, um, ended and I was in the Navy

01:20:53.160 for about six years, four months.

01:20:55.060 And then, uh, right after that, I went and I wanted to do, um, humanitarian work sort

01:21:00.400 of in, in, in a combat zone and that sort of thing.

01:21:02.220 And the free Burma Rangers were doing that. 0.98

01:21:04.660 And, um, it was, you know, volunteer thing.

01:21:07.040 So I just showed up and.

01:21:08.840 So when you were there, you, you're not allowed to, you're not going in on, on, uh, missions

01:21:14.320 to, uh, do assaults.

01:21:16.120 You're there for humanitarian reasons.

01:21:18.100 You're in to go get people and if you have to provide cover or take people out, you know,

01:21:23.640 to be able to provide that, you know, to get those people out, but you're not a, it's

01:21:27.880 not a, it's not an army.

01:21:29.540 No, no, not, not, not in the slightest.

01:21:31.320 It's, it's, you know, it's, it's strictly humanitarian, but you are operating in a war

01:21:36.520 zone and you have a few guys who are former military, uh, David Eubank.

01:21:39.860 He's former, uh, you know, army SF ranger.

01:21:42.200 Can you talk about him for just a minute?

01:21:44.040 Cause he's a guy who, uh, I think.

01:21:48.100 Is, is remarkable.

01:21:49.900 I mean, he's, he just goes to the worst place and takes his family.

01:21:54.440 Yeah.

01:21:54.960 Yeah.

01:21:55.500 He will with the family, they try to, they try to keep them back.

01:21:59.040 You know, obviously they're not, they're not on the front lines, but he's not out there

01:22:02.120 with an AK.

01:22:03.800 Um, yeah.

01:22:04.540 And that's certainly a little bit, let's, uh, that's certainly a little bit controversial.

01:22:08.520 Um, but seeing them and how they operate and what they do, I, um, you know, I, I think

01:22:14.460 it's a good thing and they keep the family back.

01:22:17.560 Like I said, yeah, I don't want to concentrate on the fact, I didn't mean that to be the

01:22:20.600 controversial part.

01:22:21.360 I just mean that he is, he and his family are so dedicated.

01:22:25.820 It's, and it's not a, it's not a, uh, yeah, we love war.

01:22:30.240 I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

01:22:31.900 It is, they are deeply profoundly Christian and they feel led by God to do these things.

01:22:40.160 Yes, absolutely.

01:22:41.160 David is probably the most devout Christian I've ever met in my life.

01:22:44.420 Um, if you ever speak with him, he'll probably pray before, before you start talking and he'll

01:22:48.940 probably pray after you finish talking.

01:22:50.560 He just, he just loves to do that.

01:22:51.900 Um, his, his faith is what drives him and what drives his family to do what they do.

01:22:57.380 And, and they love what they do.

01:22:59.200 They're passionate about what they do.

01:23:00.260 They've been doing this for 25 years, I believe with the free Burma Rangers. 1.00

01:23:03.840 That was when it was started back in the, back in the nineties.

01:23:06.560 And, um, yeah, and they're the real deal.

01:23:09.140 It's not, it's not a short term, you know, sort of a quick adrenaline, a quick adrenaline

01:23:13.620 fix.

01:23:14.140 They, they, they do this and they've been doing it for, you know, over, over two decades

01:23:17.900 now and it's, it's their lifestyle.

01:23:19.400 It's what they do.

01:23:20.540 So you just got back from, uh, Myanmar, right?

01:23:23.320 Yes.

01:23:24.020 Um, and, uh, I know very little about it.

01:23:27.580 I know that there's the Karen people, right?

01:23:30.220 Yeah.

01:23:30.420 Karen is used.

01:23:31.340 Karen.

01:23:31.880 Yeah.

01:23:32.380 And, and tell me about them.

01:23:33.660 So the Karen, they are a ethnic minority that's inside of Myanmar.

01:23:38.720 So also one thing with Myanmar that other people don't know is, um, Myanmar was originally

01:23:44.320 called Burma and the, the sort of illegitimate oppressive government changed the name from

01:23:49.280 Burma to Myanmar, sort of their way of erasing history, um, which, you know, there's obviously

01:23:53.560 a commonality.

01:23:54.460 Evil people tend to do that, right?

01:23:55.500 Yes.

01:23:56.140 Um, and so they're trying to sort of erase that history by calling it Myanmar.

01:23:59.500 So everybody tries to call it Burma.

01:24:02.280 If you, if you, you know, if you're calling it out, you know, you call it Burma. 0.98

01:24:05.600 Okay.

01:24:05.900 Um, and there's bad ethnic, ethnic cleansing going on there.

01:24:09.260 Yeah, that's been going on.

01:24:10.160 So it's, it's a civil war that's been going on for about 69 years right now.

01:24:13.480 So literally as soon as holy cow, yeah, it's, it's the long, it's the world's longest running

01:24:17.120 civil war.

01:24:17.820 As soon as the British left in 1949, um, essentially the, the ethnic Burmese who are the, who the 0.79

01:24:23.840 ethnic majority of the country, they were left in power because before the British had shown 0.80

01:24:28.240 up, it had been a Burmese sort of monarchy for a thousand years before that.

01:24:32.500 So, but, but, but the ethnic minorities, specifically the Karen and the Kachin, um, on sort of that

01:24:37.700 North, um, Eastern portion of Burma, um, they had had some sort of liberty.

01:24:42.720 They had, they had felt liberty under the British, under the British rule.

01:24:45.480 And so they didn't want to give that up.

01:24:47.060 They didn't want to sort of be, um, second class citizens underneath these ethnic Burmese. 0.62

01:24:51.240 So long story short, the Burmese, the Burma army launched a campaign and it's, it's been

01:24:57.060 a full on war for 69 years, um, to get rid of everyone else that is not ethnic Burmese or, 0.90

01:25:04.160 uh, Buddhist.

01:25:04.960 And it's, it's one of those things where if, if these people decide to sort of bend

01:25:09.660 the knee for, uh, for example, the Karen, like if you can be a Karen person and live 0.72

01:25:13.260 in Yangon around the Burma army, they don't care, but you have to understand that you're

01:25:17.100 a second class citizen.

01:25:17.980 You don't get the right to vote.

01:25:19.200 You don't get the right to, you know, to, to move up in government or anything.

01:25:22.260 It's very much like ISIS. 0.95

01:25:23.860 You just pay the, oh, when the tax.

01:25:25.980 Exactly.

01:25:26.360 Exactly.

01:25:26.620 You pay the tax and like, we'll leave you alone.

01:25:28.220 Right.

01:25:28.380 Yeah, exactly.

01:25:28.980 It's, it's very, very similar to that.

01:25:30.320 So I, you know, you don't think of, of Buddhists as, you know, people that are trying to commit

01:25:36.640 genocide.

01:25:37.420 Yeah.

01:25:37.800 You just don't think of that.

01:25:39.000 Right.

01:25:39.340 Right.

01:25:39.460 You always think of like your peaceful Buddhist and, you know, you get along with everybody

01:25:43.060 and, you know, rub the little fat belly and everything is great.

01:25:46.040 Yeah.

01:25:46.060 Yeah.

01:25:46.260 Yeah.

01:25:46.600 That's not the case here.

01:25:47.820 Now that are they, they're rounding up these Christians. 1.00

01:25:50.380 Are they in camps or are they just, what's, how, how are they doing the genocide of the

01:25:55.980 Christians? 0.97

01:25:56.340 Well, so the, the genocide, the way it works is it's instead of, um, sort of an ISIS tactic,

01:26:01.780 like, you know, ISIS, they do sort of a blitzkrieg, right?

01:26:03.980 They go in and they just go and slaughter everybody.

01:26:05.860 The Burma army attempts to do that as well, but you're dealing with the jungle.

01:26:09.240 You're not dealing with the, you know, the flat Nineveh plains.

01:26:11.800 It's very different tactically.

01:26:13.020 So what they do is they go into villages and they attack the villages and kill everybody 0.97

01:26:16.520 that they can. 0.87

01:26:17.600 Men, women, kids, animals, everything.

01:26:19.080 And they try to push these people out.

01:26:20.920 Um, and it's usually village by village, very, very small movements.

01:26:24.560 And then as soon as the Burma army leaves that village, a lot of times what they'll do is 0.82

01:26:28.180 they'll leave landmines in the village.

01:26:29.940 So that way when the people try to come back, who've, you know, run into the jungle because

01:26:33.100 they saw them coming when they come back, now they're stepping on landmines and there's

01:26:36.360 a bunch of other issues.

01:26:37.820 Um, and that's, that's sort of the way, the way that it's been working now as of recently.

01:26:42.740 And so like last year they hit the Rohingya and like a full, who are mostly Muslim. 1.00

01:26:47.200 Um, they hit them with a full scale, um, onslaught, sort of a full scale, um, attack, which they've

01:26:53.320 done against the Korean back in the nineties.

01:26:54.920 And it's looking like they're going to start doing again here very soon.

01:26:57.920 They're also, they moved the same units that attacked the Rohingya and displaced about 0.86

01:27:02.280 a million people.

01:27:03.200 Um, they moved those same exact military units up to the North of Burma to attack right

01:27:07.840 now, the Kachin who are about 90% Christian.

01:27:10.080 And then the Korean, they've already started moving troops down and it looks like they're going 0.94

01:27:13.940 to hit the Korean. 0.96

01:27:14.420 I don't think people understand that, uh, right now Christian persecution around the

01:27:20.520 world is at its apex.

01:27:22.980 It, oh yeah, it has not been like this.

01:27:25.460 I mean, really since the time of Christ.

01:27:27.860 Yeah, it, it, it is interesting.

01:27:29.740 Um, well, you know, a very, a very Christian thing is, you know, where the, where the spirit 0.53

01:27:34.260 of Lord is, there is liberty, right?

01:27:35.500 And people don't like liberty and they don't want you to have your liberty.

01:27:37.500 And so you have to get rid of the idea that all men are created equal, right? 0.92

01:27:41.020 You have to get rid of that idea that our founding fathers had.

01:27:43.820 And, and you have to get rid of those Christian principles if you want to control, you know, 1.00

01:27:48.300 if you want to control people.

01:27:50.120 So now the Nazarene fund, you're doing work with the Nazarene fund.

01:27:54.740 Yes.

01:27:55.200 And you're bringing the Nazarene fund to Burma.

01:27:58.100 I'm bringing the Nazarene fund to Burma. 0.52

01:27:59.600 And it's, it's been, uh, it's been absolutely incredible.

01:28:01.980 I'd been doing some volunteer work in Burma for a few months at the beginning of the year.

01:28:06.180 And then actually David Lopez, uh, one, another seal, uh, he, he, he heard, he heard about

01:28:11.160 what I was doing.

01:28:11.820 We've sort of been in contact on and off for about the last year and a half after the rescue

01:28:15.620 video and stuff.

01:28:16.340 Yeah.

01:28:16.440 He's, he's like, he's like the most gentle bear ever.

01:28:19.300 Oh yeah.

01:28:19.580 He's a big teddy bear.

01:28:20.660 I actually ran into him at the airport.

01:28:22.380 Uh, the other day I was flying to New York city and he was flying to, he was actually

01:28:25.060 flying down here to Texas.

01:28:25.880 We literally crossed paths to the airport.

01:28:27.620 We had the same, uh, same gate.

01:28:29.560 They were right next to each other.

01:28:30.340 Um, anyway, so, um, yeah, he, he got me in contact with the Nazarene fund and he said,

01:28:35.580 Hey, there's some guys I want you, I want you to meet.

01:28:37.240 So I flew out to Salt Lake city and met the guys from OUR, met Tim Ballard, met all those

01:28:41.160 guys.

01:28:41.600 Yeah.

01:28:42.160 And, um, then I got a call from, uh, uh, Rudy.

01:28:45.940 I call him uncle Rudy, Rudy Atala.

01:28:47.780 Yeah.

01:28:47.960 And, uh, he's like, Hey man, we want to get, we want to get you on the payroll and, and continue

01:28:51.760 expanding what you're doing already over there.

01:28:54.260 And so what are you going to do with the Nazarene fund?

01:28:57.660 And what is that, what is that, uh, uh, what are you going to do for the Christians there?

01:29:03.420 Right.

01:29:03.960 So, um, sticking with the traditional role, um, that, that, um, the Nazarene fund has been

01:29:09.040 doing sort of in the middle East with trying to rescue people.

01:29:11.320 You can't quite do that in Burma.

01:29:13.020 It's not quite the same mission.

01:29:14.420 Um, the mission there is definitely to save lives.

01:29:16.300 So our big thing that we're trying to do is we're going to, um, and we're in the process

01:29:20.520 of setting up a communications network, sort of an early warning net, if you will.

01:29:25.440 So that way the people in these villages have a little bit more time to know when the Burma 0.94

01:29:29.940 army is coming and we're going to get them some, some basic equipment and things like

01:29:33.000 that to sort of predict when these attacks are going to happen.

01:29:35.760 That's one of the first things that we're going to do.

01:29:37.240 So security is your, is your first thing.

01:29:39.020 Um, also there are major humanitarian needs because, um, because the war has been so long.

01:29:44.880 A lot of, a lot of, um, NGOs are kind of getting, um, I don't know, I don't, I don't

01:29:50.240 use the word bored, but they're getting, uh, they're getting fatigued.

01:29:53.420 Thank you.

01:29:54.120 They're getting fatigued with it.

01:29:55.460 And so over the last year of the last two years, um, a lot of support for the, for the

01:30:00.380 refugees and the people living on the Thai side of the border who have no place to go

01:30:03.860 support for them has been dwindling.

01:30:05.600 So I was just at the, uh, uh, one of the refugee camps in Thailand and right now in little

01:30:11.020 neighborhoods of that massive 30,000 person refugee camp, which has been there for about

01:30:16.560 10 years, um, or longer, I believe.

01:30:18.860 Um, they're already having to start sharing food and they can't accept anybody and they 1.00

01:30:23.260 can't accept any more people.

01:30:24.480 I talked to the guy who runs the camp and he's like, we can't accept more people.

01:30:27.040 Like they can come here for safety, but somebody's going to share foods with, uh, yeah, food with

01:30:31.400 them.

01:30:31.600 Yeah.

01:30:31.740 So if you would like to get involved, please go to mercury one.org and, uh, join us in

01:30:37.440 our ever expanding, uh, quest to save, uh, religious minorities and Christians that are

01:30:43.240 in danger.

01:30:44.140 As I, I said, and this actually all really kind of came down to a rabbi telling me this,

01:30:49.180 Glenn, stop talking about the Jews.

01:30:50.820 You guys are first.

01:30:52.040 This time we're behind you.

01:30:54.160 Uh, we're your first, uh, and that is true.

01:30:57.460 Please join us with the Nazarene fund.

01:30:59.900 You can find out more information and donate, uh, at mercury one.org.

01:31:05.820 Thank you so much for everything you do.

01:31:07.880 Absolutely.

01:31:08.360 Happy to do it.

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01:32:18.800 Don't you feel like a slug after meeting people like that?

01:32:21.240 Yes.

01:32:22.300 It's hard to imagine we're the same species.

01:32:24.220 He's 26 years old.

01:32:25.840 Yeah.

01:32:26.460 He doesn't look old enough to have the experiences that he does.

01:32:30.160 I mean, and he's, he got out of depression by serving people.

01:32:34.820 Yeah.

01:32:35.420 And he's accomplished more than, you know, we'll ever do.

01:32:38.680 It's interesting.

01:32:39.440 There's a, there's a, some, uh, you know, a serviceman passed away the last couple of

01:32:43.280 days and, and he had been deployed to Iraq nine, nine times, Iraq and Afghanistan nine

01:32:49.340 times.

01:32:50.080 And, you know, people were saying like, how can we be a society that would allow someone

01:32:53.540 to be deployed nine times?

01:32:55.580 And we shouldn't, you know, we should always strive to not ever have to deploy anyone who

01:32:59.320 doesn't want to go.

01:32:59.960 So, but there's, we have met so many people over the years that believe so strongly in

01:33:07.540 the freedom of others that they will be deployed every day to the end of their lives if they

01:33:11.420 have to.

01:33:12.200 And they regret it when they can't.

01:33:13.660 When they can't.

01:33:14.240 They feel like I should be out there with my guys.

01:33:16.480 I know.

01:33:16.580 And, you know, you, I think you say, you see that, uh, here as well.

01:33:20.500 Because your life has meaning.

01:33:21.740 Because he's not, I mean, he's not being deployed.

01:33:23.820 No, he's not.

01:33:24.340 He's just doing it.

01:33:25.120 He's doing it.

01:33:25.640 This is, he, he's, he, he didn't work for the, the, the, the, the,

01:33:29.960 free Burma, uh, army.

01:33:31.700 It didn't work for them.

01:33:33.040 It's all volunteer.

01:33:34.340 The Nazarene fund.

01:33:36.100 He's going in by himself.

01:33:37.980 He was just there in the jungles by himself, pulling Christians into safety and, um, went 0.98

01:33:45.020 over to the refugee camp to find out what's going on.

01:33:47.940 He's going to do this by himself, a Navy seal and, uh, set this whole thing up.

01:33:54.120 And I, I asked him, I said, so who's, who's your team?

01:33:56.540 And he said, I haven't selected them yet, but they'll all be, they'll all be

01:33:59.860 people, you know, Christians from Burma.

01:34:02.480 He said, cause they, I want them to be able to stand on their own two feet in the end.

01:34:07.920 We can't just keep paying for this and have Westerners coming over and helping them.

01:34:11.400 They have to learn how to do it.

01:34:13.240 That's phenomenal.

01:34:14.720 Just phenomenal.

01:34:15.980 Please get involved.

01:34:17.440 Mercury one.org.

01:34:18.500 That's mercury one.org for the Nazarene fund.

01:34:21.580 It's amazing work.

01:34:23.220 Be a part of it.

01:34:23.940 So I thought we had, um, I thought we had a year to be able to do this, but I don't

01:34:33.580 think we do.

01:34:34.940 Um, you know, I told you about Abraham Lincoln's, uh, all of his clothing that he wore the night

01:34:39.640 of the, uh, the play that he was killed at, you know, his gloves, um, all of the personal

01:34:44.720 items, his hat, those were all held, uh, by a, uh, private individual from the 1800s all

01:34:51.920 the way up until recently, finally came to the open market, was sold to the Lincoln library.

01:34:57.940 They paid $23 billion for all of this stuff.

01:35:01.440 Three what?

01:35:02.300 Million.

01:35:02.880 Okay.

01:35:03.380 Okay.

01:35:04.000 That's a $23 billion.

01:35:05.180 No, 23.

01:35:05.700 That's a really expensive hat.

01:35:07.060 That's a price hat.

01:35:07.360 Yeah.

01:35:07.580 Um, but this is, I mean, this tells the story.

01:35:10.800 They're about to lose it.

01:35:12.280 They have $10 million left on the payment.

01:35:15.600 It's due next year.

01:35:17.960 Um, and they don't have it.

01:35:19.900 They have $5 million, they think in matching funds from private individuals, they just

01:35:25.020 have to raise $5 million.

01:35:26.640 So we, we started five for Lincoln.com and we ask you just to give $5 and you can get

01:35:34.240 on a renewal thing.

01:35:35.040 So it's, you know, once a, once a month, um, $5 a month to be able to preserve this history.

01:35:42.560 This will go to open market and most likely will not be seen again.

01:35:48.180 It was held for 150 years in darkness.

01:35:51.480 It'll go into a private collector's hands.

01:35:53.480 And I like things being in private hands, but only if they're being shown, this most

01:35:58.840 likely will disappear.

01:36:00.900 And it's sad.

01:36:01.820 So please help us save, uh, this Lincoln, um, uh, piece of history that is just awesome.

01:36:09.360 They have to, uh, take it to the auction house.

01:36:13.840 I think by January, uh, even though they're a year out from raising it, they need to have

01:36:20.460 a significant dent made by January.

01:36:23.160 So please go to five for Lincoln and, uh, you know, $5 a month or whatever you can do

01:36:29.400 a month would be great.

01:36:30.740 Help raise this cash to be able to save this important piece of history.

01:36:35.180 Welcome Pat Gray.

01:36:36.440 How are you, sir?

01:36:37.320 Awesome.

01:36:37.760 I'm perfect.

01:36:38.900 You see what I'm saying?

01:36:42.420 Yeah.

01:36:42.600 Yeah.

01:36:42.920 Just like, wow.

01:36:44.040 Yeah.

01:36:44.220 So, uh, so Pat, you're concerned today about, uh, I, we've been talking about this for a

01:36:52.140 long time, at least 15, close to 20 years, probably embedding chips into, uh, uh, people's

01:36:59.180 foreheads or into their hand.

01:37:00.880 Definitely not digital angel.

01:37:02.660 I mean, definitely not the mark of the beast.

01:37:04.480 Mark of the beast.

01:37:05.240 It's not.

01:37:06.340 No, no.

01:37:07.440 I mean, it sounds like it.

01:37:08.920 Yeah.

01:37:09.540 I mean, yes, exactly.

01:37:11.400 It's exactly what St. Paul described in the cave, but it's nothing.

01:37:17.180 It's not because people love it.

01:37:19.680 They love it.

01:37:20.680 Right.

01:37:21.280 They're not being forced into this.

01:37:22.960 They're doing it willingly.

01:37:24.160 Right.

01:37:24.700 There's a, a company in China.

01:37:26.860 They're being forced in China.

01:37:27.900 Yes.

01:37:28.280 And well, a little closer to home, like Wisconsin, they're doing it there as well.

01:37:33.460 Right.

01:37:33.940 At a, uh, surprise in Wisconsin, the progressive state, a company called three mark, three

01:37:38.640 square market is, uh, it has 250 employees.

01:37:43.300 And so far, 80 of them have voluntarily received the chip.

01:37:48.200 Okay.

01:37:48.640 It's super, super convenient.

01:37:50.460 Oh, it is.

01:37:51.000 It's super convenient.

01:37:51.740 Yeah.

01:37:51.940 You can, all the, all the doors unlock for you.

01:37:54.640 Right.

01:37:55.140 Uh, you just swipe your hand over the scanner door opens.

01:37:59.060 Yeah.

01:37:59.280 You come to your computer and it automatically puts in your passcode and everything else.

01:38:03.920 It's great.

01:38:04.220 You can go to the company's market and just swipe your hand and buy stuff comes directly

01:38:08.160 out of your account.

01:38:09.260 Mm-hmm.

01:38:09.680 It's fantastic.

01:38:10.540 It's great.

01:38:11.300 Really good.

01:38:11.740 I mean, everybody loves it.

01:38:13.600 And there's, I'm sure there's never going to be a time when that could go radically,

01:38:19.000 radically wrong.

01:38:20.080 Like, what do you mean?

01:38:21.160 Well, all they're doing is, uh, storing all of your information, um, and your medical

01:38:27.880 information, your, uh, financial information, and, you know, just to have that implanted

01:38:34.600 in your skin.

01:38:35.960 Mm-hmm.

01:38:36.540 I just think it's, nothing could go wrong there.

01:38:40.840 We all know that the government will always be benign.

01:38:43.660 All right.

01:38:43.900 So here's the thing.

01:38:44.600 And never work with these companies to gain our information.

01:38:48.140 Right.

01:38:48.560 Right.

01:38:49.100 Okay.

01:38:49.420 So here's the thing.

01:38:50.220 The only trouble I could see besides this crazy talk that that's, you know, the beginnings

01:38:54.080 of the mark of the beast is, um, you could cut that out.

01:38:58.140 So if somebody wanted to steal your information, you could cut it out.

01:39:01.740 You need to have it.

01:39:02.960 Yeah.

01:39:03.240 You need to find a way so it fuses with the body.

01:39:05.520 So once you have the mark of the, once you have the chip.

01:39:08.700 Right.

01:39:09.140 It can never be removed.

01:39:10.820 And digital agent, don't they have that method?

01:39:12.920 I'm not sure.

01:39:13.960 I think they.

01:39:14.620 I'm not sure.

01:39:15.560 I, we haven't talked about this for a while, but I remember that it ran off your body's

01:39:20.840 biorhythm.

01:39:21.860 Mm-hmm.

01:39:22.140 You remember that?

01:39:22.740 Mm-hmm.

01:39:23.080 And, and they were concerned that somebody might extract it.

01:39:26.860 And, uh, they said it wouldn't work because it, uh, becomes part of your body.

01:39:32.800 Ah, so.

01:39:34.380 It's good.

01:39:34.860 So it wouldn't work for anybody else.

01:39:36.620 Ah.

01:39:37.280 So, um, all they have to do to track you is, uh, put one of these inside of you, but you're

01:39:44.180 not doing anything wrong.

01:39:45.320 Why would you worry about it?

01:39:46.400 Well, that's what the Chinese are saying now.

01:39:48.320 Right.

01:39:48.760 I mean, the Chinese are getting it. 0.97

01:39:50.000 And China is saying, you know, the Chinese people who, by the way, um, lose social points.

01:39:58.020 Uh, I don't know if you ever saw a black mirror, but, you know, the China is doing what the 0.96

01:40:02.320 black mirror, um, uh, made, you know, a light of, you know, in some ways they brought to kind

01:40:07.640 of the, I don't think that was light, the, the twilight zone of this generation is black

01:40:11.940 mirror.

01:40:12.600 Uh, and it showed that, uh, you know, you'll get social scores and depending on who you

01:40:17.120 talk to, how you treat others, if you break any laws, if you, you know, are pedestrian

01:40:22.400 and you're not using the sidewalk, you lose points.

01:40:24.920 And that depends on what you can access.

01:40:27.140 Look, it's a, it's a science fiction show.

01:40:29.660 Well, it's supposed to warn them some, you know, dark thing that could happen in the future.

01:40:33.480 Yeah.

01:40:33.840 Except it's happening.

01:40:34.920 It's not going to happen.

01:40:36.000 No, it's happening now in massive communities.

01:40:39.300 Uh, the first trials started in 2016 and it'll be fully implemented by 2020 in China.

01:40:45.100 And the people there, again, they lose points if they talk to foreign press and say something

01:40:50.060 that's not good.

01:40:51.340 Um, uh, so the, but they're all talking to the foreign press and they all love it.

01:40:55.240 They love it.

01:40:55.640 They love it.

01:40:56.260 They love it too.

01:40:57.060 They love it.

01:40:57.840 They don't do anything wrong.

01:40:58.720 Why wouldn't they love it?

01:40:59.420 They say now traffic is perfect.

01:41:01.760 Nobody speeds.

01:41:03.020 Nobody does anything.

01:41:04.340 Wow.

01:41:04.820 It's wonderful.

01:41:05.740 They love it.

01:41:06.640 By the way, this is completely unrelated.

01:41:08.180 I want to make sure you guys know it's completely unrelated, but you know, sometimes we bring up unrelated

01:41:11.260 stories in the broadcast.

01:41:12.720 That's what we do.

01:41:13.260 We're covering a lot of different.

01:41:14.400 A lot of different topics.

01:41:16.020 Facebook has begun to assign its users a reputation score, predicting their trustworthiness

01:41:21.000 on a scale from zero to one.

01:41:22.860 Wait, that's, um, exactly the Chinese plan. 0.77

01:41:26.520 No, this isn't in China.

01:41:27.600 This isn't, this is here.

01:41:28.560 Oh, this is, okay.

01:41:29.120 Oh, this is Facebook.

01:41:30.360 Okay.

01:41:30.660 So it's in English.

01:41:31.760 Uh, yeah, it's in English.

01:41:32.520 And it's in America.

01:41:33.120 It's totally different then.

01:41:34.060 You're right.

01:41:34.640 Previously unreported rating system, which Facebook has developed over the past year, shows that

01:41:38.920 the fight against the gaming of tech systems has evolved to include measuring the

01:41:42.200 credibility of users to help identify malicious actors.

01:41:45.860 I'm sure we're really.

01:41:46.860 None of these things are a problem at all.

01:41:48.520 No, no, no, none of that.

01:41:49.120 It's all going to make our life better.

01:41:50.460 It's all going to make our life more convenient.

01:41:52.020 It's all going to be easier.

01:41:53.560 I mean, all you have to do is comply.

01:41:55.860 One of their software engineers, Sam says, I use it 10 to 15 times a day.

01:41:59.800 Oh, wow.

01:42:00.340 I love it.

01:42:00.800 If Sam likes it.

01:42:01.660 If Sam likes it.

01:42:02.500 I feel like that's enough.

01:42:03.160 Sam, I am.

01:42:04.040 Yeah, right.

01:42:04.520 Yeah.

01:42:04.700 You know what I mean?

01:42:05.560 Right.

01:42:06.100 Wasn't he the green eggs and ham guy?

01:42:07.460 Yeah, he won't try it with a box in a fox or something like that.

01:42:10.620 That's probably what would happen here, right?

01:42:12.320 Like he wasn't going to try the digital implant, but then he decided to try it and he liked

01:42:16.880 it.

01:42:17.100 His friend said, Sam, try it.

01:42:20.020 Try it.

01:42:21.240 Try it, I say.

01:42:22.620 Comrade, you're going to love.

01:42:23.800 You like it.

01:42:26.300 So I think it'll be good.

01:42:27.500 I think it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, you know.

01:42:29.500 We've just become such sheep.

01:42:32.660 It's just, it's just following each other to the slaughter.

01:42:35.300 What are you talking about?

01:42:36.920 But it's so good.

01:42:38.460 It is so good.

01:42:39.180 I mean, it's really convenient.

01:42:40.780 I mean, everybody loves convenience.

01:42:42.440 It is.

01:42:43.060 I mean, all of these things, we, you know, Glenn, we've done the show now for 20 years together

01:42:47.480 and Pat, you know, you were working with Glenn before that and we've worked together for

01:42:51.040 a really long time as well.

01:42:51.900 And we've talked about these, these developments over the years, long enough now to be on record

01:42:56.860 saying things that we do every day.

01:42:58.780 We're incredibly creepy.

01:43:00.140 Like we, you could go back and listen to those shows from 10, 15 years ago.

01:43:03.380 We would say, look what they're developing.

01:43:05.200 This is insane.

01:43:06.460 No one will ever do this.

01:43:07.640 And we're doing it right now.

01:43:09.340 I mean, we're carrying around multiple GPS devices everywhere we go.

01:43:13.300 Yeah.

01:43:13.520 I mean, the things that we do, it happens so fast because it's so useful and so great.

01:43:18.860 And that part, the part that we're already, we're already doing it makes it easier to

01:43:23.460 go ahead and implant it in your skin.

01:43:24.940 Cause you've already, you've already got trackers anywhere.

01:43:27.000 You're, you got a GPS system in your phone, in your car, they can find you anywhere.

01:43:30.840 So don't worry about it.

01:43:31.920 Just put this in as well.

01:43:33.600 And, uh, and then we'll find you when you're even not in your car or with your phone.

01:43:38.000 Um, wait until I start to, this is why, um, uh, I don't know if we left this part in,

01:43:45.200 did we leave the part in the books?

01:43:46.560 Do you've read it?

01:43:47.180 Did we leave the part in the book where I talked about, uh, uh, the, the merging of man

01:43:54.140 and machine where there's definitely stuff in there about that?

01:43:57.360 Yeah.

01:43:57.500 Yeah.

01:43:57.700 Uh, you know, when we, when we get to the point to where transhumanism, where, uh, they 0.98

01:44:05.180 say, look, you got to upgrade, you got to upgrade, got to upgrade your memory.

01:44:09.820 Cause if you don't upgrade your memory, you're not going to be able to stand a chance.

01:44:13.380 Can't keep behind.

01:44:14.180 You won't be.

01:44:14.680 Yeah.

01:44:14.800 You'll be left behind.

01:44:15.640 Your kids will have no chance.

01:44:17.220 There's nothing.

01:44:18.180 Look at, look at, we're sending everybody.

01:44:20.060 We're sending our kids to college right now, knowing, knowing it is the source of most of

01:44:27.980 our problems and we are paying colleges and universities to destroy our kids and our country. 0.82

01:44:36.300 We're paying them.

01:44:38.120 We're, we're enslaving our children to massive debt when we know it's not worth it.

01:44:44.420 But we know that it's, it's, it's the ill effects and how they are coming out programmed

01:44:51.220 differently and we're doing it.

01:44:53.000 You think we're not going to put chips?

01:44:55.080 I bet we will eventually.

01:44:56.380 Of course we will.

01:44:57.220 I mean, we'll do it within, we'll begin doing it within 10 years.

01:44:59.960 We did shows about the cashless society.

01:45:02.040 How many times we use that phrase?

01:45:03.540 And it's been, obviously there are clear warnings about this.

01:45:06.400 I have had, we talked about this yesterday.

01:45:08.060 I've had $4 in my wallet for a month.

01:45:11.100 The same $4 living in my wallet for one month, not more than $4, just $4.

01:45:16.740 And I, I'm doing lots of stuff.

01:45:18.900 I'm buying lots of stuff, but I have $4 in my wallet and the same $4 constantly live there.

01:45:24.140 I have 20 folded in my wallet.

01:45:25.900 That's it.

01:45:26.920 And I've had it folded in my wallet for maybe 10 years.

01:45:30.740 I mean, I don't even know the last time you use cash.

01:45:33.200 You don't use cash.

01:45:35.060 We're in a cashless society.

01:45:36.780 We basically are right.

01:45:38.700 And that's, that stuff happens.

01:45:39.940 You don't even, because it's so much easier.

01:45:42.080 I don't want to get through change.

01:45:43.340 What do I have to do with the change?

01:45:44.540 These are not even serious concerns.

01:45:46.740 We always thought this was going to be forced on us and it was going to be presented as if

01:45:50.340 it were, you know, something sinister.

01:45:52.960 Well, no, it's going to be presented as if it will change your life.

01:45:55.980 It's going to help you.

01:45:56.700 It's going to save your life.

01:45:57.640 It'll save your kids.

01:45:59.160 Because if anybody ever kidnaps them, if they have this little chip in them, we'll be able

01:46:02.500 to find them wherever they are.

01:46:03.520 Nobody can kidnap your kids.

01:46:04.660 But isn't that the way, isn't that the way evil always wins?

01:46:08.580 Yeah.

01:46:08.680 I mean, look at this.

01:46:09.320 You're going to college.

01:46:11.400 Well, it's good.

01:46:12.580 Your kids have to be educated.

01:46:14.060 They're going to have all these great opportunities.

01:46:16.100 Well, no, it's enslaving them to debt.

01:46:18.220 A lot of research shows that this is really changing our kids fundamentally.

01:46:22.900 It's their stated goal to change our kids and make them less like the parent.

01:46:29.180 And we do it anyway.

01:46:31.260 Look at all of the things that we do right now that we know are bad.

01:46:36.440 We talked about this a while ago of the 1984 versus Brave New World.

01:46:42.140 Which one are we going down the road of?

01:46:43.960 Both.

01:46:44.660 Maybe both.

01:46:45.580 But Brave New World seems more likely to me.

01:46:48.400 Brave New World, I think, is...

01:46:49.860 I think everybody is declaring Brave New World, and even I did.

01:46:52.580 Brave New World is the winner.

01:46:54.460 You know?

01:46:55.120 Yeah, I think it's more likely.

01:46:56.300 But I don't know if it's the winner.

01:46:57.100 Dr. Huxtable was right.

01:46:58.640 No.

01:46:59.740 Isn't that who wrote it?

01:47:00.700 Yeah, I think it was Dr. Huxtable.

01:47:01.560 No, I don't think Clifford did that.

01:47:03.820 He was more of a medical doctor.

01:47:05.480 Yeah, I don't think he used Clifford.

01:47:07.700 So anyway, Brave New World is the way that we are headed.

01:47:14.720 But there comes a point to where I think, and we're there.

01:47:18.120 We are there.

01:47:18.900 We're at this tipping point where people are like, I don't want to go forward with this

01:47:25.960 because you guys are scaring me.

01:47:28.520 You're seeing this with the Democratic Socialists and everything else.

01:47:31.460 They don't want to go there, but they also don't want to necessarily go back.

01:47:36.380 And so they don't know what to do.

01:47:38.220 That's the point where the New World Order and 1984 come in. 0.82

01:47:43.880 Brave New World can take you up to the precipice.

01:47:46.200 And then I believe it takes somebody to strong arm an event.

01:47:50.360 And if that doesn't work, they strong arm you into it and say, you're doing it.

01:47:55.500 Because really, I've asked this over and over again.

01:47:58.140 And we need to start asking people who are yelling at us.

01:48:01.620 And we're talking and yelling at on Twitter.

01:48:03.860 We need to ask ourselves and others.

01:48:06.480 Let's say you get your way and you win all the elections.

01:48:11.040 What's going to happen to the 50% of the country that doesn't agree with you?

01:48:14.820 What are you going to do with them?

01:48:16.820 Well, the Weather Underground had that all figured out.

01:48:19.300 Yes.

01:48:19.700 They were going to do some re-education camps in the Southwest.

01:48:21.920 That's what China is doing.

01:48:23.000 That's what China is doing.

01:48:24.300 Yep.

01:48:25.060 Thank you so much, Pat.

01:48:25.640 Over a million Muslims.

01:48:27.000 Yes.

01:48:27.440 In re-education camps in China.

01:48:29.140 Yeah.

01:48:29.720 Is that a problem?

01:48:30.560 No, no.

01:48:31.320 Not for me. 0.97

01:48:32.020 But America has the problem with Muslims. 0.97

01:48:33.780 And we'll get continually beat up about how we're hateful. 0.91

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01:50:05.300 Glenn Beck.

01:50:06.660 Stu, what is the problem?

01:50:07.760 Global warming is caused by?

01:50:10.100 CO2.

01:50:10.900 And CO2 does what?

01:50:12.600 It traps heat and warms the earth.

01:50:15.460 Traps heat and warms the earth, of course.

01:50:17.800 What is your solution to global warming if it did exist, as they say?

01:50:23.140 I believe that the market would develop and scientists would develop new technologies and we would adapt where we could as well.

01:50:30.960 Right.

01:50:31.300 And solve the problem cheaply over a longer period of time.

01:50:33.940 Sure.

01:50:34.180 You know, so tax won't work.

01:50:35.760 No, definitely not.

01:50:36.700 Headline.

01:50:38.080 Scientists find a new way to make a mineral which can remove CO2 from the atmosphere.

01:50:45.920 It's interesting.

01:50:46.980 Yeah.

01:50:47.320 There's a development, right?

01:50:48.820 Mm-hmm.

01:50:49.080 That they didn't see coming.

01:50:50.380 Mm-hmm.

01:50:50.820 That may solve the problem cheaply and easily without trillions of dollars in global taxes.

01:50:56.780 And the good added benefit is, if it goes wrong, it'll just suffocate all the plant life.

01:51:01.720 Yeah, but other than that, do you see any problems?

01:51:03.460 I don't see any problems.

01:51:04.420 Who likes vegetables anyway?

01:51:05.780 Right.

01:51:06.480 Trees.

01:51:07.040 They get in the way of progress.

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The Glenn Beck Program - August 21, 2018

'Refusing The Cliff'？ - 08⧸21⧸18

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