The Glenn Beck Program - Rewriting the Present ｜ Guest Host： Jeff Katz ｜ Guests： Winsome Sears, Tom Ziglar, & Alan Dershowitz ｜ 12⧸28⧸21

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00:00:30.000 After a massive amount of research and investigative journalism, real reporters and serious journalists have figured out what Let's Go Brandon really means.

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00:02:07.220 It is the Glenn Beck program.

00:02:09.120 Jeff Katz, happy to be sitting in for my friend Glenn today.

00:02:12.720 Heard every day on NewsRadio WRBA in Central Virginia.

00:02:15.900 Now, over the years, I've paid very, very, very close attention to the real reporters and the serious journalists.

00:02:24.960 You know, people not like me.

00:02:27.020 Talk show hosts.

00:02:28.000 My gosh, we have an agenda.

00:02:29.600 We have a point of view.

00:02:30.660 We tell you what we think.

00:02:32.300 We're not reporting things.

00:02:35.720 We're mere opinion people.

00:02:39.240 All right.

00:02:40.160 I always considered that more a dollop of honesty, but, you know, that's just me.

00:02:44.760 So, I pay close attention, I really do, to what the self-proclaimed real reporters and serious journalists tell us about important matters.

00:02:56.480 And here's the most important matter in the United States today.

00:02:59.500 Now, you and I probably thinking, OK, we've got supply shortages, right?

00:03:07.020 We were talking about that yesterday.

00:03:08.220 You go to the stores and it looks a little bit like Venezuela or the old Soviet Union.

00:03:13.940 And you and I are thinking, I wonder if Joe Biden's going to make little hats and say, make America Venezuela again.

00:03:20.160 I don't know.

00:03:20.680 I don't know.

00:03:21.100 I don't know.

00:03:21.460 But that's not what it is.

00:03:23.540 And then there's the other part of me.

00:03:24.780 I'm sitting here today wearing a Stanford sweatshirt because I work into every conversation.

00:03:31.920 If possible, my oldest boy attends Stanford University.

00:03:35.600 Oh, he's brilliant.

00:03:36.660 All you have to do is ask him.

00:03:38.480 I get nothing.

00:03:40.700 I mean, he's getting a world-class education.

00:03:42.480 I got it.

00:03:43.360 But I would think for the amount of money that we send to Stanford, we would get a free sweatshirt.

00:03:50.620 Not true.

00:03:51.760 Not true at all.

00:03:53.480 And before I move on to the most important thing, I mean, I know it's the most important thing, but just take a second.

00:04:00.360 My son at Stanford.

00:04:03.060 Did I mention that I did?

00:04:03.940 Right, Harry?

00:04:04.640 So he says when tuition bills are paid, dad, here's what you have to do.

00:04:11.320 And I'm thinking, well, I've already sold my spleen.

00:04:15.140 I'm pretty sure I only have one of those.

00:04:17.420 Well, I got two kidneys, right?

00:04:18.880 I could put one up on eBay.

00:04:20.300 I should be good.

00:04:21.160 Or Craigslist for an unused kneecap or something.

00:04:26.320 But he says, yeah, you know, you just click on this link and you can make your payment online.

00:04:30.600 And I said, no.

00:04:31.600 Oh, absolutely not.

00:04:33.340 Why?

00:04:33.800 It's easy.

00:04:34.320 It's quick.

00:04:35.340 Exactly my point.

00:04:36.340 If you're going to charge what they charge for tuition and you're going to demand that I pay, and I understand that, or I don't really understand it, but I pretend that I understand it.

00:04:47.280 Then I am sending an old-fashioned paper check.

00:04:52.600 I want somebody in the bursar's office to actually have to receive the envelope, open the envelope, take the check out, stamp it, endorse it, walk it to the bank, whatever they do.

00:05:06.160 I want some effort.

00:05:07.800 I don't want to make it effortless.

00:05:08.880 I don't want to make it easy.

00:05:09.900 I want them to work for the tuition.

00:05:13.820 All right.

00:05:14.020 Now I feel better.

00:05:15.300 So back to our regularly scheduled emergency, right?

00:05:18.460 The crisis that's hitting all of us.

00:05:20.980 Let's go, Brandon.

00:05:22.760 We spoke a little bit about it yesterday.

00:05:25.660 And in fact, we've got a little snippet.

00:05:27.620 I got a couple of snippets here.

00:05:29.460 And can we just start, if you don't mind, it's just the Joe Biden clip.

00:05:36.040 I mean, he's doing this NORAD thing, if you remember, right?

00:05:40.120 It's the NORAD tracker for Santa.

00:05:42.580 And there's a guy in Oregon who calls in and is getting to chat with the president and Dr. Jill Biden.

00:05:50.620 And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:05:52.280 Merry Christmas.

00:05:53.080 Let's go, Brandon.

00:05:54.080 And then Joe Biden.

00:05:55.820 Well, we got that little snippet of Biden agreeing.

00:05:59.740 Yeah, I hope you guys have a wonderful Christmas as well.

00:06:02.340 Oh, thank you.

00:06:03.840 Let's go, Brandon.

00:06:04.760 Let's go, Brandon.

00:06:06.340 I agree.

00:06:08.620 I agree, too, but probably for different reasons.

00:06:12.140 So that has caused an unbelievable stir.

00:06:16.240 Outrage.

00:06:17.040 Outrage.

00:06:17.600 Oh, my gosh.

00:06:18.320 It's the worst thing in history.

00:06:20.580 You know what it means, and I know what it means.

00:06:23.580 But we also know where it comes from.

00:06:26.260 See, this is the most important part that's being ignored by the real reporters and the serious journalists.

00:06:32.180 Let's go, Brandon, is a thing because it exposed the legacy news media for the hacks that so many of them are.

00:06:42.460 Right.

00:06:43.060 We see Democrat Party hacktivists deployed all over the United States.

00:06:47.580 Right.

00:06:48.180 They're deployed to Congress.

00:06:49.880 They're deployed to state houses, and they are deployed to newsrooms.

00:06:54.100 So if you recall, NASCAR events, driver named Brandon wins.

00:07:01.620 There's a reporter from NBC who is interviewing him.

00:07:05.720 Blah, blah, blah.

00:07:06.520 Congratulations.

00:07:07.500 Nice driving.

00:07:08.300 Yada, yada, yada.

00:07:09.020 Really fast.

00:07:10.460 Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:07:11.760 And the crowd is chanting the original version of Let's Go Brandon, right?

00:07:19.460 Now, if you remember, I mean, it's a long time ago.

00:07:21.660 I know months ago.

00:07:24.040 All the college football games, all sorts of live events with tens of thousands of people were chanting blank Joe Biden.

00:07:32.500 Now, these were not members, so far as I could tell, of the vast right wing conspiracy.

00:07:38.080 I didn't recognize any of them from the meetings, but that's what they're chanting.

00:07:42.220 So they're chanting that at the NASCAR race.

00:07:45.040 And the reporter says, oh, isn't that touching?

00:07:51.400 They're chanting, Let's Go Brandon.

00:07:55.560 Now, everybody who was watching the race knows that's not what they were chanting.

00:08:02.500 It's pretty clear as you look at the two people on screen, right?

00:08:07.380 Brandon, the race car driver and the reporter.

00:08:12.140 They, I think, knew.

00:08:14.600 I don't know how you couldn't know what was really being chanted.

00:08:18.420 So maybe she's trying to do something nice.

00:08:20.800 She doesn't want to acknowledge it.

00:08:23.920 But she exposed those legacy news media people for who and what so many of them are.

00:08:31.400 They're hacks.

00:08:32.500 And they want to continually lie and mislead people.

00:08:37.380 And they've done it for years.

00:08:39.640 And then you see the rise.

00:08:41.500 You see the rise of talk radio.

00:08:43.180 You see the emergence of superstars like Glenn.

00:08:47.020 The rise of the blaze and Glenn Beck dot com.

00:08:50.920 And all of a sudden now, right, we don't have to wait and be spoon fed information.

00:08:56.380 We get our own information and we can get information and details and background from people, frankly, whose opinions we trust, people we respect, maybe people we like.

00:09:07.580 But there's more to this.

00:09:10.580 And this is where I want us to focus for just a moment.

00:09:13.420 And that is the, quote, real meaning of this.

00:09:17.800 Now, there are two pieces that we have to listen to.

00:09:22.280 Let me start with something I found on the blaze dot com.

00:09:28.700 If you want to see the video, by all means, go to the blaze dot com.

00:09:33.120 But it's a CNN analyst who is is is pushing the idea that let's go, Brandon, doesn't really mean what you and I know that it means.

00:09:45.600 Let's take a listen to that.

00:09:46.940 Wonderful Christmas as well.

00:09:48.940 And let's go, Brandon.

00:09:51.960 Let's go, Brandon.

00:09:52.940 I agree.

00:09:54.720 Let's go, Brandon.

00:09:55.860 For those who don't know, is slang for F Joe Biden.

00:10:00.240 Ron, the president is trying to be nice to kids.

00:10:04.840 He doesn't really have to do this.

00:10:07.000 They were very pleasant.

00:10:08.640 What does it tell you that somebody is rude like that and disrespects the office of the president to his face about the political climate in this country?

00:10:16.980 Yeah, look, you know, it's ungracious.

00:10:19.220 It's juvenile.

00:10:20.220 It's reprehensible by the father.

00:10:22.500 But I don't think it's fundamentally about incivility.

00:10:25.180 I think it is fundamentally about insurrection.

00:10:26.960 You know, I don't know the individual, but the whole let's go, Brandon kind of motif is a reflection of the view, two thirds of the Republican base driven by Trump's claims, false claims and the big lie that Biden is an illegitimate president.

00:10:43.960 And it reflects as well the findings in multiple polls by the American Enterprise Institute, Vanderbilt University and others that a majority of Republican voters now say the American way of life is disappearing so fast, the traditional American way of life that we may have to use force to save it.

00:11:00.520 I think you're seeing this is a manifestation not just of incivility, but of the fundamental view of the illegitimacy and the ominous shores that we're kind of sailing toward very quickly in 2022 and especially 2024.

00:11:12.640 Geez, I just thought it meant blank Joe Biden.

00:11:17.080 I didn't realize how much was packed into the phrase.

00:11:21.380 Now, this guy who's chatting here, and it doesn't matter who it is, because all of the chattering heads on all of the usual suspect platforms, be it CNN or MSNBC, we'll listen to that in just a moment.

00:11:34.720 They're all the same.

00:11:37.400 They're all in cover-up mode.

00:11:39.920 They're all in, let's boost Joe.

00:11:42.920 They're the same folks who spent four plus years attacking, vilifying, demonizing Donald Trump.

00:11:56.360 You do remember this, right?

00:11:58.260 It's not that long ago.

00:12:00.680 Four years, every single day, every single hour of every single day, every single minute of every single hour of every single day.

00:12:10.340 They devoted to undermining and attempting to topple the duly elected president of the United States, Donald John Trump.

00:12:18.780 That's what they did day after day after day.

00:12:24.120 There wasn't anything that was beneath them.

00:12:28.320 People who would look you in the face and say, hey, it's a mostly peaceful protest, and you're watching the buildings burn.

00:12:35.800 You're watching police being, it's mostly peaceful.

00:12:38.740 I mean, except for the attacks on the cops and the burning buildings.

00:12:42.440 They're the same people who attempted to bring down Donald Trump over and over and over.

00:12:46.780 Did he order Russian dressing with a salad?

00:12:49.540 Ah, we got to bring him down.

00:12:51.580 But now, something that is purely organic, and I get it, it may very well be impolite.

00:13:00.980 I can guarantee you that that guy's wife, oh my gosh, she was livid.

00:13:08.240 And every one of us who's a husband, by the way, we know the look that he got.

00:13:12.160 Oh, you absolutely know the look that he got.

00:13:14.300 She looked at him like, I cannot believe you did this.

00:13:16.760 Oh my God, we're going to have to move.

00:13:18.680 We're going to, seriously, we're going to have to move to like Australia because everybody knows us.

00:13:23.800 But you listen to what the CNN folks did.

00:13:28.040 And again, we'll listen to the MSNBC people in just a moment.

00:13:31.180 They are all cut from the same cloth. 0.87

00:13:34.420 And they are going to take away as much speech from us as possible.

00:13:42.040 You and I could say it's a sunny day and they're going to tell us it's calling for a revolution.

00:13:46.700 We got to be very careful.

00:13:47.960 Remember, you've got to check out TheBlaze.com, GlennBeck.com.

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00:14:06.400 So happy to be sitting in today.

00:14:08.180 Jeff Katz in for Glenn.

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00:15:16.520 It is the Glenn Beck program.

00:15:21.380 Jeff Katz in for Glenn today.

00:15:23.640 Now, I want to share this other little snippet.

00:15:26.200 It's from MSNBC.

00:15:27.220 Oh, and I got to tell you, we're going to be joined in a couple of moments by Winsome Sears. 1.00

00:15:31.480 Winsome Sears was just elected the lieutenant governor of my home state of Virginia.

00:15:38.320 See, we in Virginia said enough is enough.

00:15:41.720 We in Virginia back in November said, look, it doesn't matter whether we're Democrats or Republicans.

00:15:49.880 It really, believe it or not, doesn't matter whether we're liberals or conservatives.

00:15:53.640 If we're parents, we want to be involved.

00:15:58.280 If our kids are in school, we, the parents, need to be involved.

00:16:04.280 And we had candidates, I mean, these candidates running for governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, our House of Delegates, all telling us, no, no, no, no, no.

00:16:13.800 Just seriously, shut up, sit down, move aside.

00:16:17.840 You don't need to be involved. 0.99

00:16:19.060 Leave this to the professional educators, you know, the members of the AFT and the NEA.

00:16:22.980 They know what they're doing.

00:16:25.060 And we said, no, we're the parents.

00:16:29.120 We, the parents, need to be involved in our kids' education.

00:16:34.120 Anyway, we went to the polls, we, the parents. 0.97

00:16:36.520 And we voted out the clowns that we had for the last eight years. 0.93

00:16:43.320 And we elected Glenn Youngkin as governor, Winsome Sears as lieutenant governor, Jason Biares as attorney general. 0.91

00:16:50.200 And each and every one of those folks said, we respect the parents.

00:16:56.760 We value the input from parents.

00:16:59.520 We want you involved in your kids' education.

00:17:02.000 So incoming lieutenant governor Winsome Sears is going to be with us in just a couple of moments. 1.00

00:17:06.520 We'll talk about that because I'm just telling you as I sit here, this is an issue for everybody.

00:17:11.160 You don't have to be here in Virginia.

00:17:12.900 You can be in Hawaii.

00:17:13.880 You can be in Alaska.

00:17:14.880 You can be in Pennsylvania.

00:17:16.960 Wherever you are, you've got to be involved.

00:17:20.060 Now, let me give you the second little snippet.

00:17:22.560 Again, I know you're thinking like I was.

00:17:24.420 Geez, I thought Let's Go Brandon was just, you know, kind of a code.

00:17:29.520 Grew out of this reporter's cover-up efforts.

00:17:34.300 And maybe they were well-intentioned.

00:17:35.880 Maybe they weren't.

00:17:36.660 I don't know.

00:17:37.960 But we all heard what it really meant.

00:17:39.780 We know what it really means.

00:17:41.140 And yeah, I don't know.

00:17:42.320 Maybe not the nicest thing to say.

00:17:43.900 But it's a handy little tagline.

00:17:46.460 But apparently it's actually part of a violent effort to overthrow Joe Biden.

00:17:54.620 Who knew?

00:17:55.620 Let's take a listen to MSNBC address that as well.

00:17:59.160 Let me tell you why this matters.

00:18:00.320 The asymmetry has always been what advantages the Trump right more than anything else.

00:18:07.420 And the asymmetry of saying F you to a sitting president on a call in front of your four kids.

00:18:14.980 Don't look past this.

00:18:17.720 Don't look at this as a story about giving airtime to a MAGA guy who goes on Steve Bannon's podcast and said, I wasn't joking.

00:18:24.400 Not only did I say, F you, Mr. President, I said more than that.

00:18:29.480 This is the slow motion insurrection, Jason, in full color.

00:18:34.500 The more dangerous thing, as you're pointing to, is the fact that all of these people are basically just insurrectionists in training now.

00:18:41.780 Right?

00:18:41.880 Like, if you wanted to say, look, presidents hear insulting things all the time.

00:18:45.800 People said rude things to George Bush.

00:18:47.320 Larry Wilmore made a highly inappropriate joke right next to Barack Obama.

00:18:51.040 Right?

00:18:51.280 Like, people can say rude things to the president.

00:18:53.840 That's not the issue.

00:18:54.940 But when these people are speaking, they're not joking.

00:18:59.260 MAGA isn't about taxes.

00:19:01.140 You know, Let's Go Brandon isn't about what you feel about supply chain issues and gas.

00:19:06.360 It is the cry of insurrectionists.

00:19:08.740 It is the cry of people who want to violently take over this country and oppress anyone who is not like them.

00:19:15.020 And that's what makes this dangerous.

00:19:16.600 And to the degree that Joe Biden can laugh it off or anything else like that, that's fine.

00:19:20.240 But I hope that we have a Justice Department and an FBI and a CIA that investigates where the anger that leads to these kinds of statements comes through.

00:19:28.520 Because these people have already attacked us with guns.

00:19:30.920 You think they're going to come back and do something less aggressive next time if they feel they can speak this way to the president?

00:19:35.600 I don't think so.

00:19:37.300 Are you kidding me?

00:19:39.680 The FBI?

00:19:41.220 The CIA?

00:19:42.520 The Department of Justice?

00:19:43.600 They need to come and investigate somebody who says blank the president?

00:19:47.640 Really? 1.00

00:19:48.840 I mean, you know, no offense to whoever that lunatic is, but you're nuts, pal. 1.00

00:19:55.780 I mean, you really are. 1.00

00:19:56.800 You are officially nuts. 1.00

00:19:58.920 You're bat crap crazy. 1.00

00:20:00.360 This is one of the beautiful things about our country, or at least it used to be. 1.00

00:20:06.400 We can say nasty things about the president. 0.99

00:20:10.740 We can say the president stinks. 0.92

00:20:13.180 We can talk about how we hate the president or we love the president. 0.98

00:20:16.740 That's the point of this.

00:20:17.960 This isn't royalty, right?

00:20:20.600 Are you allowed to say something nasty about the queen in England? 0.90

00:20:23.020 I have no idea.

00:20:24.060 I don't know.

00:20:24.960 But you want to employ, and this is the important part.

00:20:29.240 You want to employ federal government agents to investigate anybody who says, let's go, Brandon.

00:20:40.300 Can you believe this?

00:20:41.540 Now, where were you during the four years when attacks on Donald Trump happened every couple of seconds, where President Trump was insulted and demeaned and vilified, burned in effigy?

00:20:58.080 Well, that's just free speech, Jeff.

00:20:59.360 That's okay.

00:21:01.080 The inconsistency, the fundamental dishonesty, and the danger posed by those folks, that's the real issue.

00:21:09.940 Coming up, Winsome Sears, the incoming lieutenant governor of Virginia, joins us.

00:21:14.600 Jeff Katz in for Glenn today.

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00:22:30.800 You're listening to The Glenn Beck Program.

00:22:45.580 It's the Glenn Beck Program.

00:22:47.300 Jeff Katz happy to be sitting in for Glenn today.

00:22:50.800 Her daily on NewsRadio WRVA in Central Virginia.

00:22:55.040 You know how you and I have been told over the years, there's just some people,

00:22:59.640 you can't be a conservative, you can't be a Republican, oh come on, you're an immigrant, you're Jewish, you're black, you're Latino, you're Asian, 0.92

00:23:09.700 you're short, you're tall, you're fat, you're I don't know, whatever the thing is.

00:23:13.920 But there's always some reason why some of us are just not supposed to be conservative.

00:23:21.140 Some of us are not supposed to be Republicans.

00:23:24.040 And then there got to a point where some of us said, excuse me, I fully formed human being over here, relatively intelligent, can probably make a few decisions on my own.

00:23:35.700 And some of us said, yeah, I'm going to have to analyze things and make my own decisions.

00:23:43.880 Decisions.

00:23:44.620 You and I get to make decisions.

00:23:46.580 Well, we here in Virginia, about a month ago, a little bit more than a month ago, made a decision.

00:23:53.040 We said that we, the parents, we do have a role in our children's education.

00:24:00.580 And that was a big part of why Glenn Youngkin, Winsome Sears, and Jason Miaris were successful in their elections.

00:24:10.880 I am so happy to tell you that Winsome Sears, who's a marvelous woman, who has just been elected lieutenant governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia, is joining us.

00:24:20.820 Good morning, Madam Lieutenant Governor-elect.

00:24:24.840 I always get your titles mixed up.

00:24:26.420 Can I just call you a Winsome still?

00:24:27.560 Yeah, I haven't gotten too big for my britches, as my grandmother would say.

00:24:33.680 I'm still Winsome.

00:24:35.560 You are still Winsome, and thank God you are, because you're helping to save our beloved state, you know.

00:24:42.240 Well, I tell you, I heard your introduction there, and I've got to say that I think what the Democratic Party unfortunately does is start with the premise that black people are victims from the time of birth.

00:24:55.220 And so if the world is against you from the time of birth, then you're going to need somebody to step in and save you.

00:25:01.720 And they just happen to be the saviors.

00:25:04.740 It's funny how that works.

00:25:06.140 But you see, the way that I come at life is life is life.

00:25:12.120 And even those who are so-called born with a gold spoon in their mouths, they have issues.

00:25:19.620 I mean, you look at the rich families, and their children are committing suicide, unfortunately.

00:25:24.800 Their children are flailing around.

00:25:27.220 Life will hit you.

00:25:29.060 And you've got to be ready for life from the moment you enter into this world.

00:25:33.900 You know, you enter screaming, you know.

00:25:37.560 You talk, Esther, with a smile on your face.

00:25:42.140 Hello, world.

00:25:43.240 Welcome.

00:25:44.200 So kidding.

00:25:45.160 I don't know about your kids, Winsome.

00:25:46.560 My kids are still screaming half the time.

00:25:48.540 But that's, you know, that's normally because I'm asking them to do something they don't want to do.

00:25:52.800 I guess I have to mention for the record, I mean, it's not an—I don't even think about it.

00:25:57.620 I just think of Winsome Sears, who's this wonderful, accomplished woman who's going to help save what our commonwealth is today and make it better again. 0.91

00:26:09.160 But I guess I have to mention all of the firsts, right?

00:26:12.180 First woman elected lieutenant governor, first black person elected governor, first child of immigrants.

00:26:18.360 I mean, we'll get those all out of the way just because it seems like, for some, those boxes all need to be checked.

00:26:24.720 Yeah.

00:26:25.320 It's unfortunate that we have to do that.

00:26:27.620 But I think if we use the same standards that the Democrats use, well, then, heck, I have won and so have people who look like me and so have immigrants and so have Latinos and so have Asians.

00:26:40.840 That means the Republican Party is open to everyone, folks.

00:26:45.040 Heck, yeah.

00:26:45.500 I mean, think about it.

00:26:46.840 You know, they put me up, Republicans did, as the nominee, as their nominee.

00:26:53.860 That's right.

00:26:54.260 They believed in me.

00:26:55.360 They didn't believe in me because I'm black.

00:26:57.240 They didn't believe in me because I'm an immigrant or because I'm a woman or because I'm a Marine veteran.

00:27:02.980 They just want someone who espouses the ideals of America.

00:27:08.280 Freedom, first of all.

00:27:10.200 We were created to be free.

00:27:12.140 You yearn to be free.

00:27:13.640 Heavens.

00:27:14.000 You can look at your children, Jeff.

00:27:16.420 And, yeah, they're screaming.

00:27:17.660 They want to be free.

00:27:18.640 It's the way we were made.

00:27:21.120 And then we want to be, you know, given the opportunity to do what we want to do.

00:27:26.080 You know, own businesses.

00:27:27.560 Whatever it is, just leave us alone.

00:27:30.560 It's that Billy Joel song.

00:27:32.100 Go ahead with your own life and leave me alone.

00:27:35.440 You know?

00:27:35.700 You know, that really is it, though, right?

00:27:38.680 It's like, look, I'm going to make some decisions.

00:27:41.640 And you know what?

00:27:42.300 I know at 50-some odd years of age, some of those decisions were bad ones.

00:27:46.380 I've grown.

00:27:46.960 I've learned, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:27:48.980 I'm raising my kids, I think, properly.

00:27:51.120 You've raised your children.

00:27:52.660 You're participating in America.

00:27:54.500 My God, more power to each of us.

00:27:57.840 Now, you did mention the things that were not important.

00:28:01.820 Don't throw Maureen in there.

00:28:03.000 That was one of the reasons I voted for you.

00:28:04.880 But don't tell anybody that.

00:28:06.100 That's a little Semper Fi thing going on there.

00:28:09.760 Can we talk for a moment here, now that we've gotten all the boxes checked, et cetera, et cetera.

00:28:14.480 Education.

00:28:15.080 Man, this was, you know it, because you lived it every single day of that campaign.

00:28:19.740 We, the parents, said, whoa, hang on.

00:28:22.460 We ought to be involved, right?

00:28:24.440 Yeah.

00:28:24.760 Yeah.

00:28:25.160 You know, when I first announced back in January, that was the first thing I was out with.

00:28:31.240 And I was pretty much the first one, education, because I knew that education would be an equalizer.

00:28:37.100 It always is, you know.

00:28:38.340 And so I started there, and it blossomed into this thing where it mushroomed.

00:28:44.820 And parents decided that, well, what COVID did was show them, you think your children are learning, but they're really not.

00:28:52.440 And what they're learning, you don't even know the half of what they're learning.

00:28:57.120 And so some of the parents were able to stand behind the computers, and when the kids logged on, what?

00:29:03.540 And they're reading, what?

00:29:05.200 And what?

00:29:06.120 What?

00:29:06.300 No, no, no.

00:29:07.320 This is unacceptable.

00:29:09.000 And so parents, now we understand that school boards are important.

00:29:14.140 You know, we used to think, oh, it's just a little school board race.

00:29:16.500 You know, it's just a school board.

00:29:17.540 But now we know.

00:29:18.720 Now we know every election is important.

00:29:21.880 Folks, if they're running for chief dog catcher, get in a race and get behind somebody.

00:29:26.980 Because these elections are stepping stones to something bigger, usually.

00:29:32.780 Yeah.

00:29:33.280 And you want to stop them at the patch.

00:29:35.960 Absolutely.

00:29:36.780 Winsome Sears is joining us.

00:29:38.200 Winsome Sears is an amazing woman. 1.00

00:29:40.340 She, in just a couple of weeks, will become my lieutenant governor. 0.97

00:29:44.440 I'm so proud of the fact that she was elected back in November.

00:29:48.760 In January the 15th, we'll raise her hand and take yet another oath to serve and protect.

00:29:53.100 But Winston, when we talk about the parents, we talk about education, we talk about opportunity.

00:29:58.200 As you said, we need children to get a quality education, not a cram-down indoctrination.

00:30:08.260 Absolutely.

00:30:09.140 Absolutely.

00:30:09.960 So that's one of the reasons we got elected.

00:30:13.320 And we are going to fulfill that.

00:30:15.180 And the type of education that we're talking about is an education that works for everybody.

00:30:20.260 Where, you know, you're not limited by your zip code.

00:30:24.860 Which is one of the things I had said to Stacey Abrams when she announced for governor and she said,

00:30:30.420 Your opportunity shouldn't be limited by your zip code.

00:30:33.440 Well, welcome to the club.

00:30:35.000 Because, you know, we happen to think so, too.

00:30:37.680 You know, I have a small business.

00:30:39.120 I'd love it if when you moved into my zip code, you only could use my business and my business only.

00:30:44.640 But that's not the way this works.

00:30:46.080 And by the way, let's stop this nonsense that public monies ought not to be going to private school education.

00:30:55.760 Excuse me.

00:30:56.820 That's happening now.

00:30:58.660 Public monies are going to private businesses when it comes to doctors.

00:31:03.140 You ever heard of Medicaid and Medicare?

00:31:05.060 Yes.

00:31:05.400 Those public monies go to private doctors.

00:31:08.540 You ever heard of SNAP food benefits?

00:31:10.240 Yes.

00:31:10.900 The food money that we give to those who are not able to provide, that money goes to private groceries.

00:31:19.880 You ever heard of federal financial aid?

00:31:23.640 Yes.

00:31:24.000 That money goes sometimes, most of the times, to private institutions, private universities, private colleges.

00:31:32.840 We could keep going.

00:31:33.600 Oh, Section 8.

00:31:35.680 That's public monies going to private landlords.

00:31:39.580 Thank you very much.

00:31:41.300 So how is it that when it comes to a child's education, my God, the most important thing in a child's life that will dictate the rest of their lives, that parents cannot decide where to send their children to school?

00:31:55.240 They're beholden to a government institution and a government institution only?

00:32:00.120 I think not.

00:32:01.360 I think not.

00:32:02.000 And if you ask me about racism, that's where I'm going to point to, because unless you have the means to move your child into a different zip code, you are stuck.

00:32:11.640 And I have knocked on doors in many communities from the higher echelons to those who have nothing.

00:32:19.280 And they tell me they want to decide for themselves, give me the money.

00:32:24.140 This is my child.

00:32:25.820 This is my child, Terry McAuliffe.

00:32:28.060 These are our kids.

00:32:30.240 The kids don't belong to the government.

00:32:32.420 That's right.

00:32:33.080 Not in this country.

00:32:34.000 Not yet.

00:32:34.360 Not yet.

00:32:34.720 I know you're standing on that line, Winston, but, you know, you mentioned Terry McAuliffe.

00:32:39.240 And here's a guy who spent $40,000 per child to send his kids to the Potomac School.

00:32:44.500 I'd never be grudged in that.

00:32:45.680 He earned the money.

00:32:46.180 He can do with it what he wants.

00:32:47.680 But, you know, as I do, to say to a single mom in Richmond or Newport News or Norfolk, sorry, nope, your kids are basically condemned to go to failing schools while my kids can go anywhere they want.

00:33:02.180 It was so outrageous and so insulting.

00:33:04.980 And then he kept telling us, sit down, shut up, mind your own business. 0.99

00:33:09.020 Yeah.

00:33:09.640 Well, that's the standard refrain, isn't it, from the Democratic Party, and it's unfortunate, especially the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

00:33:17.440 They're so far left that if there were a flat earth, they'd have fallen off by now.

00:33:22.500 This is the problem.

00:33:24.000 And we've got to fix it, and we've got to fix it fast.

00:33:26.780 You know, in businesses, people, the customers, they walk with their money, don't they?

00:33:32.880 If they don't patronize your business, you're done.

00:33:35.740 Your business is over.

00:33:37.140 Well, how would it be if we gave parents the money to decide where they should send their children to school, and they don't elect to keep them in the school that their children are attending?

00:33:48.380 That tells you something.

00:33:50.240 It sure does.

00:33:50.800 And that's what we should be fighting for.

00:33:53.400 If you're talking about diversity and equity and inclusion, there it is.

00:33:57.920 Give me my money.

00:33:59.340 Let me make a decision about where to send my child to school.

00:34:02.500 And I'm going to keep harping on that because if they get a good education, then they will have marketable skills, Jeff, and they can compete in this global world.

00:34:12.500 Right now, 70% of the jobs, you need something other than a high school diploma to get there.

00:34:20.140 70% of the current jobs.

00:34:22.940 And if you're not even graduate, and by the way, Virginia has lowered their standards.

00:34:28.060 Virginia has lowered the standards.

00:34:29.600 And we have discovered, for example, there's one city, I'm not going to name it, one city, 40% of the kids never logged on, not one time.

00:34:38.700 Never logged on, not one time.

00:34:40.640 And what are you going to do about that?

00:34:43.240 And then of those that logged on, 80% of them have failed.

00:34:47.580 80%.

00:34:47.900 So you know what they did?

00:34:49.340 They socially promoted them anyway. 0.89

00:34:51.260 Who are you fooling?

00:34:52.440 Who are you fooling?

00:34:54.120 That's right.

00:34:54.840 We are not on this planet by ourselves.

00:34:56.780 We have China to deal with. 0.95

00:34:59.420 China has more honor students than we have students than we have students.

00:35:03.640 We're dealing with Russia. 0.97

00:35:06.120 You know, we are dealing with all of these other nuclear holding powers. 0.99

00:35:10.740 We can't afford not to get it right.

00:35:12.840 Rome, as you know, was destroyed within.

00:35:16.300 Within.

00:35:17.460 Not by the time the Vandals and the Viscos appeared.

00:35:20.740 Rome had already destroyed itself.

00:35:22.860 So they could just walk right in.

00:35:24.100 And that's what we have to be careful we don't do in America.

00:35:27.560 So true.

00:35:28.360 Listen, I'm so out of time.

00:35:30.540 I just want to say in front of everybody, number one, I love you.

00:35:33.380 As you know, was proud to support you in our party primary.

00:35:38.800 Honored to vote for you.

00:35:40.280 And I will be thrilled January 15th watching you take the oath of office as a lieutenant governor

00:35:45.160 of my Commonwealth.

00:35:47.140 God bless you, Winston.

00:35:48.020 I look forward to chatting again soon.

00:35:50.660 Thank you.

00:35:51.380 See you, Jeff, and good morning to your listeners.

00:35:54.620 Thank you.

00:35:55.280 That is Winsome Sears.

00:35:56.680 She, in a couple of weeks, is going to be the lieutenant governor of Virginia. 0.99

00:36:00.000 She's the one, along with Glenn Youngkin, Jason Meares, they embraced our We the Parents

00:36:05.180 movement.

00:36:05.760 Yeah, you can do it too.

00:36:07.180 Jeff Katz in for Glenn.

00:36:08.440 It is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:36:11.580 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:36:14.040 Ever since he tried the Rough Greens for the first time, my dog, Uno, has changed.

00:36:24.480 He's a completely different dog.

00:36:26.500 I hear from people all the time in the audience.

00:36:29.240 I mean, hundreds and hundreds of letters have come in who have had the same experience with

00:36:33.560 their dog.

00:36:33.980 They've heard me talk about Rough Greens on the show.

00:36:35.740 They get some for themselves.

00:36:36.880 And as soon as they sprinkle it on the dog's food, the dog literally wolfs it down.

00:36:41.320 And it's really good for them.

00:36:42.480 It's not a dog food.

00:36:43.400 It's just chock full of vitamins and minerals and probiotics and omega oils that you sprinkle.

00:36:47.940 Your dog needs these things to be healthy.

00:36:50.740 My dog was easy.

00:36:51.720 From the first time he tried Rough Greens, Uno was in love.

00:36:54.840 Some dogs take a little bit to get used to the new flavor, though.

00:36:57.760 Dr. Dennis Black, the inventor of Rough Greens, was on the phone with me last week.

00:37:01.500 He doesn't want that to be a reason for you not to try.

00:37:03.740 So right now, he's got a special gift available.

00:37:05.700 You can get a free bag of Rough Greens for your dog just to try out.

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00:37:20.580 In his Glenn Beck program, Jeff Katz, happy to be sitting in for Glenn today.

00:37:37.200 Heard every day on NewsRadio WRVA in Central Virginia.

00:37:41.600 No fun for you.

00:37:44.240 No fun for me either.

00:37:45.420 Dr. Fauci is back.

00:37:46.800 Remember him?

00:37:47.480 Oh, the good Dr. Fauci.

00:37:49.460 The good Dr. Fauci now says, we shouldn't do Christmas, right?

00:37:55.160 Wasn't Christmas a bad thing?

00:37:56.740 And what was it before that?

00:37:58.540 Was Halloween was bad?

00:38:01.120 Independence Day, July the 4th is when we threw it this year.

00:38:05.260 And what was that?

00:38:06.040 We were going to save, I think, seven cents on a hot dog so you could have 1.2 other non-family members, but they'd have to stay like 87 feet away and whatever it was.

00:38:17.320 So now Fauci is back and says, yeah, you probably should not go to a New Year's Eve party.

00:38:27.300 Not a problem for me.

00:38:30.100 I always fall asleep long before the ball falls, so I'm okay.

00:38:37.320 But I'm trying to think for myself.

00:38:39.620 I know that it's kind of dangerous in this day and age, but I really am trying to think for myself.

00:38:43.740 Okay.

00:38:44.820 The CDC just cut in half the quarantine period.

00:38:49.420 If you haven't heard that, that's the latest from the CDC.

00:38:51.280 Hey, people who have COVID test positive needed to quarantine, hide under their beds, not go outside, not talk to people for 10 days.

00:38:59.620 Now they cut it in half to five days.

00:39:01.580 They're also saying that a lot of people who have the, quote, Omicron variant of COVID are asymptomatic.

00:39:11.260 Well, I'm trying to figure out then why exactly should I not live my life?

00:39:19.240 Well, we'll talk a little bit more about that, and you're not going to believe, but there's yet another effort to dumb down America via the schools all straight ahead.

00:39:29.000 It's Jeff Katz in for Glenn.

00:39:30.620 It is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:39:31.780 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:39:51.420 What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:40:15.540 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:40:26.300 The vast majority of Americans actually agree on something, and boy, is it bugging the leftists.

00:40:33.960 I'll let you know what that is straight ahead.

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00:41:43.580 It's the Glenn Beck program.

00:42:00.880 Jeff Katz.

00:42:01.640 Happy to be sitting in for Glenn.

00:42:03.380 Heard every day on NewsRadio WRVA in Central Virginia.

00:42:07.360 Is it really the great resignation or is it the great reimagination?

00:42:11.080 Now, you've heard Glenn talk about the great reset.

00:42:14.340 Oh, that's absolutely the case.

00:42:16.140 There's no question about that.

00:42:17.640 But we don't hear about that from the legacy news media, right?

00:42:21.300 We hear about the great resignation.

00:42:22.600 Everybody who is able to is quitting their jobs.

00:42:26.180 Well, there's a guy by the name of Tom Ziegler who says not so fast.

00:42:32.180 It's not really the great resignation, Jeff.

00:42:34.440 This is more the great reimagination.

00:42:36.920 This is where people are going to just have to change their focus a little bit.

00:42:41.860 And we'll chat with Tom in a couple of moments.

00:42:44.540 And if the name Ziegler sounds familiar to you, it's because his dad was Zig Ziegler, who frankly helped millions, tens of millions of people around the world live better lives.

00:42:56.980 And Tom, I think, is carrying on that legacy.

00:42:59.280 So we'll chat with him in a couple of moments.

00:43:00.580 Now, I mentioned to you that there's something we as Americans apparently agree on.

00:43:05.940 And the problem is it smacks of common sense.

00:43:09.760 And because it smacks of common sense, well, the left wing folks are outraged.

00:43:14.940 Now, what is it that you and I can agree on?

00:43:16.540 Well, we know what this means.

00:43:17.820 We know what that means.

00:43:18.620 Not anymore.

00:43:20.280 Not anymore.

00:43:21.160 However, there's a brand new poll out.

00:43:25.060 And I know I'm leery of polls just like you are.

00:43:27.800 I don't necessarily take them to heart, but I'm looking at these numbers and I'm thinking this is one of those things that, well, everybody, everywhere probably agrees on.

00:43:42.560 But we're not allowed to say it anymore.

00:43:44.780 So I just thought I'd share this with you.

00:43:46.440 Now, 75% of Americans agree there are two genders. 0.98

00:43:54.980 Do you ever think that would be a groundbreaking number?

00:43:57.620 Now, frankly, I'm a little puzzled by the 25% that are confused.

00:44:03.200 But this has been turned into such a twisted political issue that we've all forgotten about common sense.

00:44:12.780 Now, once again, it comes back to common sense.

00:44:14.620 And how do you treat people and do you do the right thing?

00:44:17.060 And can we, as parents, make sure that our kids are safe in schools?

00:44:22.220 I mentioned to you that my home base is central Virginia.

00:44:25.860 I'm in this beautiful, beautiful area called Hanover County.

00:44:29.860 And we're just north of the city of Richmond, which used to be a great tourist destination.

00:44:35.880 You know, you'd go down Monument Avenue and there were all these second place trophies.

00:44:40.640 That's how we were.

00:44:41.320 Everybody joked about the second place trophies.

00:44:43.320 They're all Confederates. 0.98

00:44:44.320 You know, they lost, you know.

00:44:45.300 Yeah, we know they lost.

00:44:46.560 And people would joke and mock them.

00:44:48.980 And there was this great discussion every single time somebody came from out of town.

00:44:53.240 And I've been part of WRVA now for nine years.

00:44:58.380 Every time somebody came to visit, they go, oh, let's go see those statues.

00:45:02.540 Or I would suggest we're going to go to Monument Avenue.

00:45:04.720 We're going to see the statues.

00:45:05.660 We're going to see these monuments.

00:45:06.500 And I'm telling you, without missing a beat, every single person started with second place trophies.

00:45:11.880 And we'd all laugh and move along.

00:45:13.720 But we always had a conversation afterwards.

00:45:16.700 We always talked about what happened on the North American continent between 1861 and 1865.

00:45:23.460 What really happened?

00:45:24.500 Why did it really happen?

00:45:25.620 What was the outcome?

00:45:27.060 Can we make sure that it never happens again if we're talking about slavery as an example?

00:45:31.680 And then the mayor of the city of Richmond, who, I've got to tell you something, always punches above his weight class when it comes to one thing.

00:45:45.520 And that's being the worst mayor in America.

00:45:48.020 I know, I know people think, hey, Bill de Blasio in New York, Jeff, worst mayor in America.

00:45:52.240 Nope.

00:45:53.320 Lori Lightfoot, Chicago, worst mayor in America. 1.00

00:45:56.540 Nope.

00:45:57.580 Jim Kenney, oh, the mayor of Philadelphia, man.

00:46:00.460 He's an unrepentant socialist.

00:46:02.280 He's an apologist. 0.99

00:46:03.460 He's the worst mayor. 0.93

00:46:04.400 Nope. 0.95

00:46:05.000 Nope.

00:46:05.540 Nope.

00:46:06.880 Mayor of Richmond, Virginia is actually the worst mayor in America.

00:46:11.060 So congratulations to him.

00:46:13.060 He's launched this terrible war against police officers.

00:46:16.360 And his other claim to fame is that he ripped down all of those monuments, even though he didn't have the authority to do so.

00:46:24.280 That's crazy.

00:46:25.280 It's just absolutely crazy.

00:46:26.560 But we come back to this common sense thing.

00:46:31.920 Common sense says, huh, let's have a conversation.

00:46:36.020 Common sense says, can we can we actually spend a couple of moments trying to figure out what the reason for this is or what the reason for that is or or why a happened or why B shouldn't happen?

00:46:46.520 Common sense, according to the Rasmussen report, also is that 75 percent of Americans agree there are two genders.

00:46:55.320 But in addition to common sense, there's got to be common decency.

00:47:00.560 I mentioned I live in Hanover County, Virginia.

00:47:04.720 It's beautiful.

00:47:05.320 It's rural.

00:47:07.120 I've got my window in front of me.

00:47:09.440 I've told you what I call this, right?

00:47:11.440 My you're an atheist, really window?

00:47:14.580 Because I look out of this window at the broadcast hut and I see trees and and grass and flowers.

00:47:20.620 And I mean, it's beautiful.

00:47:21.880 And I just gaze out of that and I think, seriously, you just think this this just all happened, just happenstance.

00:47:32.200 I don't know, maybe maybe I'm a simple man, but I don't buy that.

00:47:36.460 I just I look at it.

00:47:38.420 I think, yeah, there is there is something bigger than we are.

00:47:42.720 There's something better than we are.

00:47:44.440 There's there is something that created all of this.

00:47:48.680 But I'm going off on a tangent here in Hanover County.

00:47:53.720 We now have a couple of parents who have filed a lawsuit with the assistance of the ACLU that says, you know, you're not doing enough for the transgendered students in Hanover County.

00:48:08.180 I thought, OK, well, we're not a big county, just so you know.

00:48:12.920 We're actually pretty small in terms of population.

00:48:15.840 And so I do this math.

00:48:19.040 I said, let's let's just use round numbers, easy numbers to understand, because, man, I'm not a math guy.

00:48:25.340 Let's say in each high school we have four grades, 9, 10, 11, 12.

00:48:31.220 In each high school, let's say we've got a thousand students.

00:48:34.360 And if we look at the percentages, we know that students who consider themselves to be transgendered and whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant, whether I agree with it or not, completely and totally irrelevant. 0.59

00:48:49.800 Let's look at the numbers.

00:48:51.180 And the numbers would say out of those thousand students, you have one or two students in each grade.

00:49:01.040 Let's be generous here.

00:49:02.180 So let's say out of a thousand students in a high school, you have eight, 10, call it 10, call it 12 students who say, you know what?

00:49:15.040 I know that biologically I'm a guy, but I really do believe I'm supposed to be a gal or I know biologically I'm I'm female.

00:49:24.320 But boy, I really believe I'm supposed to be male.

00:49:27.100 I don't have to argue that point.

00:49:28.940 I really don't.

00:49:30.400 Probably not my my point to argue or debate or even discuss.

00:49:36.780 I don't have to agree.

00:49:39.180 I don't have to disagree.

00:49:40.200 But I do, as a decent person, have to make sure that everybody in the school gets an education.

00:49:46.960 Right.

00:49:47.500 We get back to this education thing.

00:49:49.080 So let's say you've got eight, 10, 12 students out of a thousand who say they are the opposite gender.

00:49:59.920 So what do you do?

00:50:00.940 The lawsuit says we need to reconfigure all the schools.

00:50:04.940 We need to tear them down, build them up again, have this room over here, that room over there.

00:50:09.000 And every one of those kids who says I, quote, identify as a different gender.

00:50:13.680 Well, I get to use the bathroom, the locker room, what have you of the opposite gender. 1.00

00:50:18.240 No consideration whatsoever for the 990 students who say, wait a minute.

00:50:28.200 I, I, what about me?

00:50:31.220 How come I'm not allowed to feel safe?

00:50:33.940 How come I have to be, quote, uncomfortable?

00:50:37.460 Why is that OK?

00:50:39.620 And the answer is pretty simple.

00:50:41.600 It's not.

00:50:43.460 It's not.

00:50:44.460 I came up with a solution, which I think is a pretty good one.

00:50:50.780 And that is that we say to those 10 kids out of a thousand, listen, I don't know what's going on with you.

00:50:56.840 You may very well identify this way as opposed to that.

00:51:00.740 Not my issue.

00:51:03.100 But I do want you to be safe.

00:51:04.840 I do want you to feel as comfortable as possible.

00:51:08.520 And I want you to get a great education.

00:51:11.160 So here's what we're going to do.

00:51:13.200 We're not going to inconvenience and turn upside down the 990 students because it just doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:51:21.060 But we are going to look out for you.

00:51:23.000 We're going to provide you a separate restroom. 1.00

00:51:26.220 We're going to provide you a separate changing area so that you are safe and secure and comfortable.

00:51:34.240 And every one of those other students is as well.

00:51:36.900 Now, how does that tie in with 75 percent of Americans saying, hey, there are only two genders? 0.99

00:51:43.040 There's going to come a point where this all gets hashed out.

00:51:45.780 And it either gets hashed out from a left wing perspective or from a real world perspective, and they are not the same.

00:51:54.820 I'm going to give you another example in just a moment.

00:51:58.180 California, where I was I was blissfully unaware that anybody still got sent to prison.

00:52:04.440 I didn't know you could commit a crime in California.

00:52:07.680 Well, apparently you can still be sent to prison.

00:52:10.860 But this very issue now is becoming a huge issue in the state of California.

00:52:16.520 We're going to talk about that.

00:52:17.940 A couple of ways that you can drop in if you'd like.

00:52:20.420 I always remind you about this.

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00:52:26.740 Should we or should we not protect the rights of the 990 students in the school?

00:52:31.220 I say yes.

00:52:32.060 And should we or should we not protect the rights of the 10 students in the school?

00:52:36.300 Absolutely we should.

00:52:37.340 And there is a way to do it without hurting anybody, without harming anybody, without insulting anybody.

00:52:43.600 We have an obligation, I think.

00:52:45.300 We, the parents.

00:52:46.180 888-727-BECK.

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00:52:50.580 Also, shoot me an email if you'd like.

00:52:52.380 Best way to do that.

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00:52:57.660 There is a contact button there.

00:52:59.340 And also Facebook.

00:53:00.520 I always love to see the Facebook numbers change.

00:53:03.320 And then I watch Facebook, I think, take them away.

00:53:05.960 But what the heck?

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00:53:17.100 Jeff Katz in today for Glenn.

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00:54:26.520 Jeff Katz sitting in for Glenn today.

00:54:30.040 Always a thrill, an honor, a pleasure to do that.

00:54:32.880 We are going to try and figure out, is it the great resignation or the great reimagination?

00:54:36.820 Tom Ziegler joins us in a couple of moments to address that particular issue.

00:54:42.180 I just, I look at it, and as we've all changed throughout COVID, the question becomes, is there really an office anymore, right?

00:54:50.620 Is there really a workplace?

00:54:51.640 I don't know.

00:54:52.380 I can't figure this one out.

00:54:53.380 But I wanted to let you hear the latest from Dr. Fauci, and we'll talk about some of this other stuff as well.

00:54:58.260 Dr. Fauci now says, if I understand it correctly, there will be no fun.

00:55:04.400 Let's take a listen to the good Dr. Fauci.

00:55:08.060 Caitlin, I would stay away from that.

00:55:10.000 I mean, I have been telling people consistently that if you're vaccinated and boosted and you have a family setting in the home with family and relatives.

00:55:18.180 But when you're talking about a New Year's Eve party, we have 30, 40, 50 people celebrating.

00:55:23.420 You do not know the status of their vaccination.

00:55:26.060 I would recommend strongly stay away from that this year.

00:55:29.640 There will be other years to do that, but not this year.

00:55:32.680 But that's what you said last year.

00:55:35.920 Listen, dude, at some point, can we not just live our lives?

00:55:42.080 I'm not asking you to bake me a cake.

00:55:44.520 I'm not asking you to come over and mow the lawn.

00:55:47.240 In fact, I don't really like you.

00:55:49.840 I'm just telling you that I don't like him.

00:55:53.360 There's just something unctuous about the good Dr. Fauci.

00:55:57.140 Oh, I think he's brilliant.

00:55:58.960 But you remember Peter Navarro?

00:56:00.740 Dr. Navarro was President Trump's economic guru for all four years.

00:56:06.620 I chatted with him not too long ago.

00:56:08.600 And he said, look, he always thought that Fauci was was just out for Fauci, that he never had the best interest of anyone except Tony Fauci in mind.

00:56:21.100 And then I chatted with President Trump's former chief of staff, and he said the same thing is, yeah, nobody liked Fauci.

00:56:29.960 Now, that doesn't mean anything to me, because, frankly, there are a lot of people I don't like.

00:56:34.080 There are a lot of people who are really talented, really good at what they do, and you and I may or may not like them.

00:56:40.100 I'm not looking for them to be the winner of some popularity contest.

00:56:44.020 But there does come a point where you and I, as grown human beings, get to make some decisions.

00:56:51.160 And that's the essence of being an adult, for goodness sakes.

00:56:56.180 I think I mentioned to you, I got my Moderna shots.

00:57:00.020 I had no qualms about getting my Moderna shots.

00:57:02.840 And I got a booster shot a couple of weeks ago.

00:57:06.040 And I will do what my doctor tells me is the right thing to do.

00:57:12.100 But I'm not following anybody.

00:57:14.700 I'm not jumping off a cliff.

00:57:16.680 I have a doctor for a reason.

00:57:20.400 My doctor, by the way, great guy.

00:57:22.920 I mean, he's brilliant guy.

00:57:24.080 Dr. Bob.

00:57:25.160 Dr. Bob actually used to be the the medical director for Vince McMahon and the World Wrestling Federation.

00:57:32.440 So Dr. Bob has seen it all.

00:57:34.840 But I asked Dr. Bob when this all started coming about, what do we do?

00:57:40.840 I said, well, he says, what are you asking me?

00:57:43.580 I said, well, should I or should I not get this this injection, this jab, this stab, this vaccine, whatever we call it?

00:57:51.260 And he says, well, you know, you're of this age.

00:57:55.780 You don't have this comorbidity or that comorbidity.

00:58:00.040 But I will tell you something.

00:58:02.120 I'm getting mine.

00:58:04.560 Okay.

00:58:05.840 I said, do you suggest that I get it?

00:58:08.080 He says, yes, I do.

00:58:09.800 And I didn't end it there.

00:58:11.120 I got so many people I know who are real honest to goodness medical professionals.

00:58:14.840 And I asked them, hey, what do you think?

00:58:17.420 What do you think?

00:58:18.080 What do you think?

00:58:19.480 And I got it.

00:58:21.160 And I got the second one.

00:58:22.320 And I got the booster shot.

00:58:24.480 Now, here's what I'm not going to do.

00:58:26.620 I'm not going to go along with anybody, be it Dr. Fauci or or Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, who tells me that we're not going to be able to live life.

00:58:36.040 That we're we're simply all every single one of us going to be stuck in our homes forever.

00:58:44.760 Maybe Dr. Fauci doesn't have a New Year's Eve party to go to.

00:58:47.840 Maybe Dr. Fauci doesn't know 30 people who actually like him enough to invite him to a New Year's Eve party.

00:58:55.700 But this is the same thing he told us last year.

00:58:58.400 And he told us, don't do Christmas and don't do Thanksgiving and don't do Independence Day.

00:59:08.000 I thought.

00:59:10.380 There was a reason we got vaccines.

00:59:12.440 I thought there was a reason that we did the things we do to combat illness.

00:59:20.420 So, if we're at a point now where 200 million people have been fully vaccinated, don't we start to look at that number for herd immunity?

00:59:33.140 I mean, you've heard Glenn talk about this over and over.

00:59:35.760 What is the number?

00:59:37.600 And how come the goalposts keep moving?

00:59:40.360 How come we keep getting told, no, we just have to do this and then everything will be fine.

00:59:43.480 But no, then it's this.

00:59:44.360 This is where it does tie into that whole great reset thing.

00:59:51.120 It does tie into this idea that, well, frankly, there are some people who don't want you making decisions for yourself.

00:59:58.320 They don't want me making decisions for myself.

01:00:01.340 And that's a problem.

01:00:03.020 That's a huge problem.

01:00:04.700 We're seeing it play out with the supply chain.

01:00:06.960 I know we just talked about it yesterday, but empty shelves.

01:00:10.200 Did you ever think you'd live in an America where you could go into the grocery store and see empty shelves?

01:00:17.620 I went again yesterday.

01:00:19.120 I stopped at a grocery store we shop at in this area.

01:00:27.860 They're out a half and half again.

01:00:29.540 Oh, I know.

01:00:30.140 There's some people going, Jeff, just drink your coffee black.

01:00:31.980 Be a man about it, right?

01:00:33.100 Man up, Jeff.

01:00:33.980 Black coffee's the way to go.

01:00:35.040 No, I need half and half.

01:00:38.500 And they didn't have it again.

01:00:41.760 And when I asked the dairy person yesterday, when are you getting it?

01:00:46.900 The answer, again, was, we don't know.

01:00:50.820 We don't have any.

01:00:52.440 And they don't have any in our warehouse.

01:00:54.640 And we don't know when we're going to get it again.

01:00:59.180 That is outrageous.

01:01:02.360 Remember, theblaze.com, glennbeck.com, jeffcatshow.com.

01:01:07.880 Is it the great resignation or the great reimagination?

01:01:11.200 We're going to try and answer that in just a moment.

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01:02:33.620 There's much more after the break on the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:02:54.760 I remind you of a couple of things.

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01:03:07.560 And I just urge you to go there.

01:03:10.100 I really do.

01:03:10.760 Take a look at some of the great charitable work.

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01:03:26.540 So, 888-727-BECK, 888-727-BECK.

01:03:30.720 And while I'm sitting in, you can always contact me via my page, thejeffkatshow.com, thejeffkatshow.com.

01:03:39.280 There's a contact button there or thejeffkatshow on Facebook.

01:03:43.800 Now, I try to share what it is that I do.

01:03:48.020 I don't mean sitting here and talking.

01:03:49.840 You figured that out a long time ago.

01:03:51.520 But there's some things that I do on a pretty regular basis just to be able to get up and kind of get through the day.

01:03:59.160 I have next to me an amazing book.

01:04:04.000 The One Year Daily Insights with Zig Ziglar.

01:04:07.900 Now, I don't know how many times I've read it, but it's a lot.

01:04:12.060 The book's kind of beat up at this point.

01:04:14.080 But I don't miss a chance to read that.

01:04:16.220 I look at some of the great speakers and thinkers of our time.

01:04:22.500 And I look at guys like John Maxwell and Brian Tracy and Zig Ziglar.

01:04:28.440 And I can remember being in an audience.

01:04:30.520 I was pretty young.

01:04:31.760 I had the chance to see Zig Ziglar live.

01:04:37.200 And I thought, my God, he's amazing.

01:04:41.260 Now, his thoughts, his views have inspired millions of people.

01:04:47.880 And we're facing a crisis right now.

01:04:49.660 We keep hearing about the great resignation.

01:04:51.980 The great resignation.

01:04:53.540 Everybody's going to quit their job.

01:04:55.080 We're all going to have little vegetable farms in the back of our house. 0.76

01:04:59.120 And nobody's ever going to an office again.

01:05:01.020 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:05:02.400 Really?

01:05:03.900 I don't buy that.

01:05:06.040 Now, Zig Ziglar went to his reward some time ago.

01:05:09.800 But his son, Tom Ziglar, continues the amazing work.

01:05:13.440 And Tom has a pretty new book out.

01:05:15.580 And I just wanted to share this with people.

01:05:17.020 It's called 10 Leadership Virtues for Disruptive Times.

01:05:20.220 And make no mistake, we're in disruptive times.

01:05:22.820 And Tom is joining us.

01:05:23.780 Tom, thank you so much for being here.

01:05:26.700 Jeff, I'm so excited to be here.

01:05:28.680 Thanks for having me on.

01:05:29.580 Well, I am a fan, not just of your dad, but of you as well.

01:05:35.420 The work that you've done, the books that you have written.

01:05:38.580 So I'm humbled that you would take some time out of your day to be here.

01:05:42.760 I really, really am.

01:05:45.180 Well, I tell you, we're living in some pretty exciting times, if you want to use that word.

01:05:51.040 Yeah.

01:05:53.600 Yeah.

01:05:54.400 Yeah.

01:05:55.440 What was the Chinese proverb?

01:05:56.860 You should only live in interesting times.

01:05:59.600 And this is about as interesting as it gets.

01:06:02.080 So you did a lot of research on this book, 10 Leadership Virtues for Disruptive Times.

01:06:07.940 Just give us a snapshot.

01:06:09.760 What are you looking at?

01:06:11.040 And how does this play out?

01:06:14.200 Yeah.

01:06:14.480 So when this thing called the pandemic started, gosh, what is that now?

01:06:19.280 Seems like forever, two years ago.

01:06:21.200 Yeah.

01:06:22.520 I just started studying what's the change in business?

01:06:25.320 What's the change in life?

01:06:27.500 And literally hours a day trying to figure out where are we going?

01:06:31.520 What's happened?

01:06:32.940 And then to put kind of the Ziegler view on it.

01:06:36.640 You know, Dad said that a positive attitude outperforms a negative attitude every time.

01:06:41.880 I mean, it's just a fact of reality.

01:06:44.640 And this is some pretty interesting data that's come back.

01:06:49.120 And that is that people have shifted.

01:06:51.500 Their values have shifted.

01:06:52.920 What's important has shifted.

01:06:54.920 They want to work for a business or in their own business that has a purpose and a cause.

01:07:00.000 And they're organizing their life around their family values rather than work.

01:07:07.360 And I see that as a good thing.

01:07:08.680 That's why I call it the great reimagination rather than the great resignation.

01:07:13.260 Yeah.

01:07:13.700 I mean, there was a time that we worked so that we could live.

01:07:18.840 And then we transitioned into live to work 24 hours a day.

01:07:22.060 Got to be accessible.

01:07:22.880 And maybe now we are looking going, you know, I'd kind of like to see my kids grow up on a daily basis.

01:07:30.300 Yeah.

01:07:31.100 I mean, Dad said in the 1970s, he said, you know, if standard of living is your goal, quality of life almost never goes up.

01:07:40.180 Yes.

01:07:40.420 If quality of life is your goal, standard of living almost always goes up.

01:07:45.700 And suddenly people have figured out, wait a second, maybe it's quality of life that I'll pursue.

01:07:52.580 And wouldn't you know it, that productivity and performance has gone up across the board for people who believe that, understand it.

01:07:59.480 And they have the mindset to embrace it.

01:08:02.560 Now, we weren't supposed to see that, right?

01:08:05.380 I mean, wasn't everything just supposed to fall apart?

01:08:08.020 People working remotely, people working from homes.

01:08:10.460 They had their own offices in their house.

01:08:13.280 Everything was supposed to crash.

01:08:14.560 And as you point out, productivity went up, even though a lot of us were just wearing sweatpants.

01:08:21.500 Yeah.

01:08:22.020 Well, right after this whole thing started, over 60 million hours a day were saved in commute time.

01:08:27.840 And then people said, you know what?

01:08:29.720 I've got more time.

01:08:30.580 I can get stuff done.

01:08:32.080 Yeah.

01:08:32.400 And then the flexibility to hang out with the kids or work on a project or start early and finish late, whatever people want to do.

01:08:41.760 It changed a lot of things.

01:08:43.540 But we have the old leadership biases that are keeping us from maximizing this.

01:08:49.680 And that's really what's happening.

01:08:51.060 The great resignation, it's nothing more than most people saying, you know what?

01:08:55.780 There's a better way to do this.

01:08:57.200 And I'm going to work in a place that's going to allow that.

01:08:59.640 Tom Ziegler is joining us.

01:09:02.540 The website is Ziegler.com, Z-I-G-L-A-R, Ziegler.com.

01:09:06.860 Tom's new book is called 10 Leadership Virtues for a Disruptive Time.

01:09:12.000 So, Tom, aside from simply having every CEO in America sit down and read the book cover to cover,

01:09:20.480 how do we see this implemented?

01:09:24.400 How do people change the mindset of the bosses, if you will?

01:09:28.020 Yeah, so I have a name for what I call the old top-down do-it-because-I-said-so-to-man-to-control leader.

01:09:39.520 I call them the T-Rex leader.

01:09:41.600 They've got sharp teeth and short arms.

01:09:44.080 You know, they like to hold things tight.

01:09:45.820 And if you're one of those and you don't want to change, just like the T-Rex, you're going to go extinct.

01:09:53.280 I mean, it's happening every single day.

01:09:56.420 And if you're working for one of those, just know that great companies and great leaders are seeking top performers

01:10:03.120 who believe that they can perform at a higher level tomorrow than they are today by growing and learning more.

01:10:11.840 So here's the mindset that everybody needs to focus on.

01:10:15.820 Are you a golfer by any chance and to ever follow Tom Watson?

01:10:20.000 I only live on a golf course, and I accidentally take the balls that golfers have hit.

01:10:26.980 I did that once or twice and then hit in the house.

01:10:29.220 No, I'm not a golfer.

01:10:30.400 I'm sorry.

01:10:32.480 Well, Tom Watson, he won five British Opens, which is a major.

01:10:37.540 And they say, how do you do so well?

01:10:39.140 And he says, the weather's bad.

01:10:41.300 And they said, well, what does that have to do with it?

01:10:43.140 And he said, well, when I'm playing good, I only have 20 competitors, really, that can play at my level.

01:10:48.900 And when the weather's bad, only five I have to beat because I love bad weather.

01:10:53.980 So here's the thing.

01:10:56.320 If you're a leader, we're in a time of massive disruption.

01:11:00.220 And if you love the disruption, if you know how to lead your people in the midst of disruption, it's like the bear story.

01:11:07.660 You know, the two hikers in the woods and the bear charges them.

01:11:11.560 And the first hiker's like, run, the bear's going to eat us.

01:11:14.600 The second hiker's tying his shoe.

01:11:16.400 And the first hiker says, why are you tying your shoe?

01:11:18.340 And the second hiker says, I don't have to outrun the bear.

01:11:22.380 I just have to outrun you.

01:11:24.420 That's right.

01:11:25.000 And so if you're a leader today, that's what you got to do.

01:11:29.220 You got to outrun the people who are frozen and wanting it to go back to the way it was.

01:11:35.920 I've got good news.

01:11:37.140 The way it's going to be is better, but we've got to create it.

01:11:40.720 And that's what the book is about.

01:11:42.240 How do you lead people to create a future that's better than what we have today?

01:11:46.700 I love it.

01:11:47.960 I love it.

01:11:48.540 And I have to think, Tom, and I don't want to speak for you, but I have to think as someone who grew up seeing your dad impact in a positive way, tens of millions of people, hundreds of millions of people, you probably feel a bit of, I don't know, an obligation or a calling to reach out and say, there is a better way to do this.

01:12:11.380 I think it's in my genes.

01:12:13.040 You know, growing up, growing up, dad told me and my sisters, whatever you want to do, I'll support you.

01:12:19.960 Just do it with 100% integrity and 100% effort.

01:12:24.940 Yeah.

01:12:25.560 And that's what we do.

01:12:26.840 That's what we do.

01:12:27.680 And so when you see a time of disruption like we're in and knowing that technological convergence and the political world scene and all these things are just going to amp up what's happening, more people are hurting, which means there are more people willing to try what works, something new, something different.

01:12:46.300 Right.

01:12:46.940 And that's where we are.

01:12:48.040 And they're crying out for leaders in every area.

01:12:51.960 And I think they're rising up.

01:12:53.880 People criticize young people for not being easily led.

01:12:58.080 I think they just have higher standards.

01:13:00.420 They want to be led by the right kind of leader.

01:13:03.140 Mm-hmm.

01:13:04.080 So the best way for folks to get 10 leadership virtues for disruptive times, I'm assuming, go to Ziegler.com, best way to get it?

01:13:12.340 That's the best way to get it.

01:13:13.660 Okay.

01:13:14.680 And while they're there, I got to tell you something, Tom.

01:13:18.000 My desk is piled with books from your dad, from you.

01:13:24.200 I've got my planner here for the day.

01:13:27.060 But you've got two things that you also do that I was blissfully unaware of, but God willing, I'll get to at some point.

01:13:33.460 You've got the Ziegler Speakers Institute and the Ziegler Legacy Certification.

01:13:38.340 You mind giving everybody just a snapshot of what those are?

01:13:41.320 Yeah, there's really three things that we do, Jeff, in supporting leaders.

01:13:47.360 First is we help them through the Speakers Institute give a great keynote speech, designing it so that people take action.

01:13:54.400 That's really what a great speech does is it gets people to take action.

01:13:57.840 Right.

01:13:58.140 And then there are people who come through who want to take the Ziegler content and train their own organization with it.

01:14:05.180 That's what the Ziegler Legacy Program is all about and certification.

01:14:08.940 And then we have coaches that we equip to coach people one-on-one in small groups so that they can take the Ziegler philosophy and embed it in their life so they can have balanced success.

01:14:21.780 And then we have new programs coming out on coach leadership, which is based on the new book that's out, which is really for leaders who want to understand how do I lead into the next, you know, one of the commercials before I came on was about the reset or I call it the reimagination, right?

01:14:40.920 How do we lead into the future?

01:14:43.480 And that's what that program is all about.

01:14:45.380 So you can find all those at Ziegler.com.

01:14:48.640 Tom, I am eternally grateful that you could make some time for us.

01:14:52.920 I am, I say it again, I'm a devoted student, follower, fan.

01:14:59.060 I don't know, pick a term that works for you.

01:15:01.380 Just love what the whole Ziegler family has done through the years.

01:15:05.760 And I wish you nothing but great success.

01:15:08.200 And hopefully I'll pass through one of those at some point.

01:15:10.800 I can actually shake your hand and thank you in person.

01:15:13.500 That would be awesome.

01:15:14.580 We look forward to having you.

01:15:16.080 Thank you so much.

01:15:17.040 That is Tom Ziegler.

01:15:18.000 You got to check out this book, 10 Leadership Virtues for Disruptive Times.

01:15:21.500 And I'm telling you, if you are a leader, you've got to understand that there are new ways of doing things.

01:15:27.180 If you are, you're an employee and you're thinking, man, my company is not doing what I want it to do.

01:15:33.060 Or this boss is just like one of those micromanagers and he doesn't get the big picture or she doesn't understand.

01:15:39.140 Check it out.

01:15:40.540 Ziegler.com.

01:15:41.620 Z-I-G-L-A-R. 1.00

01:15:42.960 Ziegler.com.

01:15:44.700 What do you do with students that are transgendered in schools?

01:15:48.740 Do you turn it all upside down?

01:15:50.160 All inside out?

01:15:51.460 Or do you do something to make everybody safe?

01:15:53.900 We'll figure that out.

01:15:55.260 Jeff Katz in today for Glenn.

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01:17:14.000 It's the Glenn Beck Program.

01:17:21.500 Jeff Katz, happy to be sitting in for Glenn today.

01:17:23.940 I mentioned a couple of moments ago that it came as a surprise to many of us that people still get sent to prison in California.

01:17:29.920 I thought they had just legalized everything.

01:17:32.060 Well, there's a complaint now from female prisoners who are saying that the new California law, 0.91

01:17:38.500 which allows biological males to be housed at female prisons because they, quote,

01:17:44.500 identify as females, is wrong and is endangering them. 0.99

01:17:49.340 Doesn't this tie back to what we talked about a couple of moments ago?

01:17:52.440 And why is the left, it seems to me, just trying to, I don't know, are they trying to erase women?

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01:18:04.400 Michelle's in Idaho.

01:18:05.400 Hey, Michelle, welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:18:08.500 Nope, Steve is in New Jersey.

01:18:10.920 My mistake.

01:18:11.460 Steve, welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:18:14.000 Hey, how's it going, Jeff?

01:18:15.260 Fine, thank you.

01:18:17.500 Yeah, about the whole, like, transgender thing in school is about, like, I mean,

01:18:22.300 I'm sure you remember about the story that came out of, what was it, Loud Encounter, Virginia?

01:18:28.180 Yeah, yeah, it's right up the road from me.

01:18:30.020 Yeah, the boy in the skirt.

01:18:31.140 Yep.

01:18:32.040 That was nuts.

01:18:33.100 And when that whole thing broke, I was, like, it was, I was listening to Ben Shapiro while

01:18:39.720 I was driving to work, and it just, it was the most enraging thing.

01:18:43.380 And, like, I have a little daughter myself, and when she gets to be that age, I'm genuinely

01:18:49.120 scared for her well-being, you know?

01:18:52.080 Like, I don't, I don't, I don't want any of that, uh, garbage, like, and Steve, let me

01:18:58.680 ask you a question, my friend.

01:18:59.840 You and I are dads.

01:19:01.080 We each have daughters.

01:19:02.440 What's our first obligation, right?

01:19:04.600 We, we protect our daughters.

01:19:07.060 Exactly.

01:19:07.540 To do anything and everything.

01:19:09.400 And I, I, I, I think the, what was it, Scott Smith?

01:19:13.900 I can't remember his first name, but I think he, I don't think he did enough, but he was

01:19:20.000 still arrested for it, like, are you kidding me?

01:19:21.960 Yeah, it's insane.

01:19:23.320 It's insane.

01:19:24.340 Steve, I appreciate the call, sir.

01:19:25.940 Thank you so much.

01:19:26.700 Do we have time here?

01:19:27.580 Michelle in Idaho, uh, welcome.

01:19:30.080 Quickly, 10 seconds, Michelle.

01:19:33.040 Yeah, I just wanted to make the point, every time I hear about gender and transgender, I

01:19:38.400 just get the feeling, well, it's not a feeling, they just want to erase women, and it's an

01:19:43.300 assault on gender itself.

01:19:44.880 I really think it's because they want to just reduce everybody to a worker status, and we're

01:19:49.200 all.

01:19:49.300 Michelle, I appreciate it.

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01:20:32.480 There's absolutely no doubt.

01:20:34.820 Former Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, police officer Kim Potter shot and killed Daunte Wright.

01:20:40.560 Was it an honest mistake?

01:20:42.820 Famed law professor Alan Dershowitz answers that question next on the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:22:02.100 Jeff Katz, happy to be sitting in for Glenn again today.

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01:22:13.760 I have to set the scene just a little bit.

01:22:16.400 I want to flash back to the 1970s.

01:22:20.840 I think it was 77, 78.

01:22:22.660 I was in junior high school.

01:22:24.040 Nice Jewish kid, Oxford Circle, section of Philadelphia.

01:22:28.680 And I heard there were a bunch of Nazis that were going to march someplace in Illinois.

01:22:34.740 And the guy who was defending them was a Jewish law professor, Alan Dershowitz.

01:22:42.420 Now, I developed an unbelievable hatred for the good professor Dershowitz when I was a child in junior high school.

01:22:49.840 And I actually went to Skokie, Illinois.

01:22:51.940 Boy, we traveled on school buses.

01:22:53.800 Not an easy trip to make.

01:22:55.980 In my later years, I'd like to think I've grown a little bit.

01:23:00.340 I've become slightly more educated and informed.

01:23:03.280 And I realized exactly what it was that Alan Dershowitz did back then.

01:23:08.040 And frankly, Alan Dershowitz has done throughout his career.

01:23:10.380 And I'm just thrilled that he is joining us for a couple of moments today.

01:23:15.540 Professor, thank you so much for being here.

01:23:18.320 Well, thank you for reminding me of Skokie.

01:23:21.040 Of course, I hated the Nazis. 1.00

01:23:22.560 I wish they would slip on banana peels and bang their heads and die. 0.99

01:23:25.940 But I also don't want the government to tell us what we can hear, what we can see, and what we can watch. 0.98

01:23:32.700 I was not only defending the Nazis, who I hated, but I was also defending Martin Luther King,

01:23:37.660 who wanted to march through other places that found his marching offensive.

01:23:42.720 So, you know, I've always defended people I despise and defended the rights of people who I don't agree with.

01:23:49.640 For example, even on Kim Potter that we're talking about today, I'm generally not a supporter of police actions and police overreaction and police shooting.

01:23:59.060 I'm a criminal lawyer.

01:24:00.300 I usually cross-examine policemen on the stand.

01:24:03.260 I expose their misstatements.

01:24:05.600 But when it comes to something like this, an honest mistake that anybody could have made.

01:24:11.620 Look, you get in your car.

01:24:13.340 You drive down the street.

01:24:14.600 A kid jumps in front of you, and you slam your foot on the brakes, but by mistake, you slam your foot on the gas, and the child died.

01:24:23.000 Horrible, horrible tragedy.

01:24:25.120 Not a crime in America, except apparently in Minnesota if you're a policewoman.

01:24:31.120 And this is a terrible, terrible miscarriage of justice.

01:24:34.640 And then it was compounded by this vindictive judge, this lawless judge, who denied her bail.

01:24:41.780 The statute says you must grant bail if she's not a flight risk, if she's not a danger to the community, and if the appeal is infrivolous.

01:24:51.260 And you have to make findings.

01:24:52.920 And the judge made no findings on that, and you couldn't make findings, because of course she's not a danger, of course she's not a flight risk, and of course the appeal is infrivolous.

01:25:01.260 But she's in jail now, unjustifiably.

01:25:04.180 Alan Dershowitz is joining us, talking a little bit about this Kim Potter matter.

01:25:08.140 This is one of the things that I find so fascinating about your perspective, Professor, is that you're right.

01:25:12.980 Your history as a criminal defense attorney.

01:25:15.300 I've seen some of your cross-examination of police officers.

01:25:18.340 I was a cop, and man, I wasn't rooting for you.

01:25:21.760 But boy, you always knew exactly what you were doing.

01:25:27.480 So the fact that we are in agreement on this.

01:25:29.740 So explain to all of us who are not brilliant lawyers and talented professors of law, how can something like this, which to me anyway is a miscarriage of justice, how can this happen?

01:25:42.640 Well, first of all, Thomas Jefferson once said, put a problem to a plowman or a professor, you're more likely to get a good answer from the plowman, from the ordinary person, the person with common sense.

01:25:52.900 So don't put down anybody who's not a lawyer.

01:25:55.880 I grew up on the streets of Brooklyn, New York.

01:25:58.100 Smartest people I knew were there.

01:26:00.200 In any event, the government concedes, the state concedes that it was an accident.

01:26:05.360 They don't contend like some people contend, oh, she did it purposely and then just made an excuse saying she wanted to pull her taser. 1.00

01:26:11.980 They concede it was an accident.

01:26:13.220 But they claim it was reckless, that because of her experience of 26 years, you know, she never used a gun all over 26 years.

01:26:20.980 She never, ever fired a shot, either from her taser or from her pistol.

01:26:26.040 This is the first time she ever did it.

01:26:29.440 And what the state is saying is that she was reckless.

01:26:32.480 She should have known, look, the taser is different.

01:26:34.780 When you look at the picture, it's different.

01:26:36.320 It's a different color.

01:26:37.220 It's a different size.

01:26:38.140 It's a different shape.

01:26:39.040 But she was confronted with an instantaneous life and death decision.

01:26:43.820 Her partner was leaning into the car.

01:26:47.220 There were pedestrians in front of the car.

01:26:49.380 This kid who had a record of having a gun was jumping back in the car where he might have had his gun and putting his foot on the gas, which he did eventually.

01:26:59.380 And ultimately, he was stopped.

01:27:02.300 What if she hadn't fired?

01:27:03.940 What if she had let him get away and he had killed three people?

01:27:06.980 She'd have been put on trial for that. 0.97

01:27:09.040 So, you know, when a policeman has no choice, you know, whenever you make a tough life and death decision, you could make a mistake.

01:27:16.480 And the law forgives mistakes.

01:27:18.620 She should not be in jail.

01:27:20.420 She should be taking remedial courses, maybe being sued civilly for making the mistake, but not prison. 0.75

01:27:27.360 So she's being held, as you point out, without bail, which seems to be a violation of what the statute is in Minnesota.

01:27:36.940 Minnesota, I don't know.

01:27:39.740 This just sounds like something that happens in, I don't know, the old Soviet Union.

01:27:43.920 You just disappear.

01:27:44.880 You're held in prison.

01:27:45.740 There are no real charges against you.

01:27:49.040 I mean, you're convicted of this, but you're supposed to be released.

01:27:52.340 So is there a way for her to fight back? 0.61

01:27:54.540 Or is that system in Minnesota because of Keith Ellison, I would say in some cases, just totally bankrupt and corrupt?

01:28:00.740 Well, Keith Ellison is a very bad attorney general.

01:28:04.640 He was a very bad member of Congress.

01:28:07.700 He was a good friend of Farrakhan, Louis Farrakhan, the most notorious anti-Semite in modern history.

01:28:14.480 By the way, the second most notorious anti-Semite in modern history is Bishop Desmond Tutu,

01:28:23.060 who just died and is being praised all over the world by President Obama, by President Clinton, by President Biden.

01:28:30.760 Everybody is praising this guy, and he was a repentant anti-Semite.

01:28:36.100 He talked about the Jews controlling everything and doing everything bad.

01:28:40.660 He talked about the Holocaust being not as bad as apartheid. 0.90

01:28:45.760 He compared Israel to Nazi Germany.

01:28:49.940 He's being praised all over the place.

01:28:52.120 We have to start telling the truth about people with mixed legacies. 1.00

01:28:55.460 But, you know, let's get back to Kim Potter, because the problem in the world today is people pick sides.

01:29:01.720 If you're against Kim Potter, she's evil. 1.00

01:29:04.000 You know what the prosecution is doing now?

01:29:06.300 They're asking for extra time.

01:29:08.700 The usual sentence is seven years for negligent or reckless homicide.

01:29:13.500 They want 10 or 15, because they say not only did she kill Wright, she endangered other people.

01:29:21.820 No, no, no.

01:29:22.840 She tried to save the lives of other people, but they want to throw the book at her.

01:29:26.620 They want to pile on and put her in jail basically for the next 10 or 15 years. 1.00

01:29:32.600 This is Kafkaesque.

01:29:33.840 This is not the way the American system should work.

01:29:36.180 You're right when you compare it to Cuba and China and Iran and Belarus, where there's no accountability.

01:29:44.260 And the American system of justice, an honest mistake, is not punished criminally, period.

01:29:50.300 So what about her attorneys?

01:29:52.440 Are her defense attorneys doing the proper things, or are they competent?

01:29:56.660 I don't know.

01:29:57.820 I don't know them.

01:29:58.940 I know that they should be filing for bail immediately.

01:30:01.940 And, in fact, the statute says that when you file for bail, the application has to be considered immediately.

01:30:09.960 And so they should be filing for bail.

01:30:12.160 They should have filed for bail before Christmas.

01:30:14.380 If I had been the lawyer, I would have, on the eve of Christmas, demanded that she be home with her family for Christmas.

01:30:20.260 But they haven't done that.

01:30:21.740 And I don't know.

01:30:22.540 They may have a strategy.

01:30:23.480 They may have a tactic.

01:30:24.440 They may be thinking of the long term of making sure that they win on the appeal.

01:30:29.240 But I would be, I think, doing it a little differently.

01:30:32.580 And I would be more aggressive right now in trying to get her out on bail. 0.99

01:30:37.000 Alan Dershowitz is joining us for a couple of moments.

01:30:39.160 And what an honor and a pleasure it is to have him here.

01:30:41.340 So, obviously, the case is being appealed.

01:30:44.120 I know you don't do predictions.

01:30:45.620 But if you did predictions, does this conviction get overturned?

01:30:49.700 Well, I have to tell you, look, the killing occurred while the jury was deliberating in the Derek Chauvin case.

01:30:57.240 And it was in the same area.

01:31:00.900 Court of Appeals, it'll be six months later.

01:31:03.540 It's a different time.

01:31:05.180 If her name was Jane Smith and the case were in a different place and we weren't living in the age of George Floyd, of course she'd be acquitted on appeal.

01:31:15.460 But I can't make any general predictions considering the fact that she is who she is and the environment is what it is and identity politics has taken over from justice.

01:31:27.160 You know, the Bible says to a judge, you shall not recognize faces.

01:31:33.000 No identity politics.

01:31:34.600 That's why we have a blindfold over the statue of justice.

01:31:38.620 You can't peek underneath the blindfold and say, you know, black victim, white woman, police officer.

01:31:46.640 That's not the way justice is supposed to be administered.

01:31:49.680 It should be the same regardless of the racial components, regardless of whether a person is a policeman or an older person putting his foot on the gas instead of the brake.

01:31:58.040 We have to have a single standard of justice for all.

01:32:00.620 But if her conviction is not overturned at the state level, does she have an avenue to appeal that or does she have to get comfortable with the idea of seven to 10 years in a state prison?

01:32:15.040 Well, she does have the right to appeal, to seek certiorari in the Supreme Court.

01:32:20.700 Only a couple of percentage of cases are given certiorari.

01:32:23.520 She does have the right to appeal federally, but her best chance of getting a reversal, obviously, is in the state appellate court.

01:32:31.140 So, no, she shouldn't get comfortable, but she should understand that, you know, appeals are very hard.

01:32:38.900 Typically, appeals are successful in criminal cases in less than 5 percent of the time.

01:32:43.960 I'm lucky.

01:32:44.880 I've won most of my homicide murder cases.

01:32:48.360 I think I've won, I don't know, 25 out of 30 or something like that, something in that range.

01:32:53.520 So, it depends who you have as your lawyer, obviously.

01:32:56.200 It depends on the facts of the case.

01:32:57.740 It depends on the circumstances.

01:32:59.620 But appealing from a homicide conviction is always an uphill battle.

01:33:05.180 Wow.

01:33:05.480 Now, I want to thank you for addressing the Bishop Tutu matter as well.

01:33:10.400 And I just have to share this with you.

01:33:12.000 And the last time you were on my show locally, I think I mentioned this.

01:33:15.500 My son, brilliant kid.

01:33:16.920 I've referred to him as our future litigator since he was about 18 months old.

01:33:20.280 He could argue whether the sun was shining.

01:33:23.600 But when Archbishop Tutu passed away, I mentioned what an unrepentant anti-Semite he was.

01:33:31.720 And my son was all over me, up one side and down the other.

01:33:35.940 And I thought, but you have to know the totality.

01:33:38.600 It doesn't take away from accomplishments in fighting apartheid.

01:33:43.660 But to pretend that he wasn't what he was, it does a disservice to everyone.

01:33:49.180 It does.

01:33:50.620 And it also encourages people, to good people, to do anti-Semitic things and bad things.

01:33:56.340 Because they'll get away with it.

01:33:57.380 They'll be excused for it.

01:33:58.460 It'll be covered by their good things.

01:34:01.240 Look, Jefferson did good things.

01:34:02.840 Washington did good things.

01:34:04.040 Lincoln did good things.

01:34:05.540 And some of the same people who are praising Tutu and want to build a statue to him and want to canonize him

01:34:10.400 are the ones who are trying to tear down the statutes of our founding fathers.

01:34:15.340 And so this is a good time to think about how to deal with people with mixed legacies. 1.00

01:34:20.720 Tutu did some great things on behalf of his own people.

01:34:24.480 He helped end apartheid.

01:34:26.300 He should be praised for that.

01:34:28.300 But he was a virulent anti-Semite. 0.98

01:34:30.800 I mean, he said the most horrible things about Jews. 0.77

01:34:33.360 And when he was called on it, you know what his answer was?

01:34:35.740 I can't be an anti-Semite.

01:34:37.560 My dentist's name is Dr. Cohen.

01:34:39.940 Some of my best friends, some of my best dentists are Jews.

01:34:43.640 And, you know, he just went on and on with his anti-Semitism.

01:34:48.500 He was the most influential anti-Semite of our age because he impacted people like your son and my children and my grandchildren

01:34:58.060 who think the world of Bishop Tutu.

01:35:00.380 And you're entitled to think the world of him.

01:35:02.360 But you have to know the bad along with the good.

01:35:05.240 And when the bad is anti-Semitism, it can't be buried, 0.87

01:35:08.700 particularly at a time when the growing anti-Semitism on college campuses and around the world.

01:35:13.660 That's why I intruded last night on the Fox News when I was on on a different subject.

01:35:18.580 I said I have to take a minute just to tell the world the truth about anti-Semitism.

01:35:23.820 I've gotten some pushback on it.

01:35:25.200 Some people have criticized me.

01:35:26.760 Some people have praised me for it.

01:35:28.320 But that's who I am.

01:35:29.440 I will always speak the truth to power.

01:35:31.140 Well, I'm sitting here queveling, and I am most appreciative of you taking a stand.

01:35:39.960 Send my best to Glenn, please, okay?

01:35:42.520 I will.

01:35:43.080 Absolutely.

01:35:43.560 And Merry Christmas.

01:35:44.140 Happy New Year to everybody.

01:35:45.740 Take care.

01:35:46.240 Thank you, sir.

01:35:46.820 Thanks.

01:35:47.200 That is Professor Alan Dershowitz.

01:35:49.720 And the perspective that he brings, I think, is so fascinating and so unique.

01:35:53.860 And I'm so grateful that he could make some time for us.

01:35:58.120 There's a woman who died, Sarah Weddington.

01:36:00.460 You may or may not know who she was or what she did.

01:36:03.520 I'll let you know in just a moment.

01:36:05.280 It is Jeff Katz sitting in today for Glenn.

01:36:07.240 It's the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:37:14.440 It's the Glenn Beck Program.

01:37:20.500 Jeff Katz, happy to be sitting in again today for Glenn, and thanks again to Professor Alan Dershowitz.

01:37:26.140 I forgave him long ago.

01:37:27.540 Not that he's staying up nights worrying about whether Jeff Katz in Hanover, Virginia likes him or dislikes him.

01:37:33.580 I've come to admire people who have a stand that's sincere.

01:37:40.080 I think it's one of the reasons that you and I agree Glenn is such a great guy.

01:37:47.060 This is about our freedom.

01:37:50.520 It is about our ability to speak freely.

01:37:55.720 We don't need any protections to say, hey, good morning.

01:38:02.420 Hope it's a nice day.

01:38:03.700 Boy, those are nice shoes.

01:38:05.460 We don't need protections for that.

01:38:07.640 We need protections when somebody says this president stinks or that member of Congress is a terrible person or that senator is doing awful things.

01:38:17.860 That's when we need protection.

01:38:19.920 And you make no mistake about this.

01:38:23.180 Whether it is what we call cancel culture or the folks at CNN or MSNBC or any of these other outlets who, quite frankly, have declared war on anybody who disagrees with them.

01:38:36.380 They started in recent history with former President Trump.

01:38:42.040 You and I saw it day after day after day.

01:38:45.980 Trying to delegitimize President Trump.

01:38:49.940 Trying to stymie President Trump.

01:38:52.480 Trying to kneecap President Trump every single opportunity that they had.

01:38:57.860 Make no mistake.

01:38:59.180 It wasn't just an attack on Donald Trump.

01:39:02.200 That's an attack on every American. 0.73

01:39:05.440 Every one of us who went and cast a ballot said, you know, I've seen all the career politicians.

01:39:14.640 I've seen it my whole flipping life.

01:39:16.180 And every time there's an election, I hear the same.

01:39:17.940 It's the most important election of all time.

01:39:20.240 Most important election of all time.

01:39:22.240 And then they get back and they do exactly the same stuff.

01:39:24.840 And then they have the nerve to come to me.

01:39:26.340 Hi, we're calling from your local political party.

01:39:29.140 Pick one.

01:39:29.620 I don't care.

01:39:31.180 We'd like some money from you.

01:39:32.660 Yeah, I'm good.

01:39:33.640 Thanks.

01:39:34.620 I'm keeping my money for my family.

01:39:38.160 I'm keeping my money so that I can, I don't know, buy something or donate.

01:39:46.000 Oh, God forbid.

01:39:47.000 Right?

01:39:47.280 I like charity.

01:39:48.240 That's what we need protections from.

01:39:53.220 Our ability to stand up and say, this is what I believe in.

01:39:56.020 You're not going to silence me and you're not going to cancel me.

01:40:00.540 But that's what is happening every single solitary day.

01:40:04.700 I mean, these attacks on former President Trump continue.

01:40:09.880 They are that terrified that he is going to run again.

01:40:13.800 They are that scared that 80 million Americans who voted for him will vote for him again.

01:40:20.680 I don't care which side of the aisle you find yourself on.

01:40:28.880 I really don't.

01:40:29.900 I don't.

01:40:31.740 Believe what you believe.

01:40:34.280 Vote whichever way you want to vote.

01:40:36.940 Do what's right for you and your family.

01:40:38.880 But don't deny those rights to other people.

01:40:43.920 Don't cancel everybody who disagrees with you or says something you don't like.

01:40:49.980 The woke culture, it's insane.

01:40:52.980 It's gone absolutely over the edge. 0.53

01:40:56.400 And I don't know how or where or when that nonsense stops.

01:41:02.040 Who was Sarah Weddington? 0.98

01:41:05.900 I'll give you the answer to that in just a moment.

01:41:07.840 Jeff Katz sitting in for Glenn.

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01:42:47.340 Jeff Katz.

01:42:48.000 Happy to be sitting in for Glenn again today.

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01:42:53.620 I asked a question.

01:42:56.360 Who was Sarah Weddington? 0.98

01:42:59.640 It's not a name most of us know.

01:43:01.860 In fact, honest with you, I had no idea who she was.

01:43:06.760 Now, she died the other day.

01:43:07.880 She was 76 years old.

01:43:09.300 All right.

01:43:09.760 You know, you sit in and think to yourself, well, that's good or that's bad or it's no

01:43:15.020 consequence to me, Jeff, because I still don't know who she was.

01:43:17.940 So why do I care?

01:43:19.020 Well, she was the attorney who filed the Roe v. Wade case back in 1973. 0.94

01:43:32.140 Now, I don't necessarily talk a lot about this.

01:43:40.740 I'm compelled to talk about the Sarah Weddington, though, and I'll tell you why.

01:43:44.180 There's no question from what I've read, and I had to bring myself up to speed after I saw

01:43:51.760 headlines that said, lawyer in Roe v. Wade dies, because they didn't even mention her 0.99

01:43:57.860 name in most of the headlines.

01:43:59.140 I mean, that was the case, right?

01:44:00.120 Roe v. Wade, she died.

01:44:01.160 Okay.

01:44:03.620 So I sat down and I said, you know what?

01:44:05.180 I got to devote some time to finding out who this woman was.

01:44:08.460 I just didn't know.

01:44:09.400 I'd like to tell you that right off the top of my head, I could tell you everything

01:44:11.920 about her.

01:44:12.280 I couldn't, so I had to go and do a little research.

01:44:17.800 She appeared to be brilliant.

01:44:20.560 Apparently was an incredibly talented attorney.

01:44:27.020 Students who had her as a law professor said she was a very, very good professor.

01:44:31.620 Folks who had interacted with her as an attorney said she had a very real talent and skill when

01:44:40.900 it came to writing in the legal area.

01:44:44.440 Okay.

01:44:47.100 But you know what else people were talking about?

01:44:49.500 I didn't stop at the news reports.

01:44:51.980 Kind of went online to poke around and just see what people were talking about in forums

01:45:00.920 and discussion places.

01:45:05.780 There were two people, I kid you not, without a shred of irony, not understanding at all

01:45:12.340 what they were really saying, who said, oh, what a shame she's died.

01:45:18.420 Oh, it's so sad that she died at such a young age.

01:45:23.080 And I thought, this is the attorney who opened up these floodgates in 1973.

01:45:36.120 If you would have come to me 25, 30 years ago, said, Jeff, what do you, well, what do you

01:45:45.340 think about abortion?

01:45:46.340 You know what my answer would have been?

01:45:47.640 I don't.

01:45:48.960 I really don't.

01:45:49.700 I don't know.

01:45:50.400 It just wasn't something that I was overly concerned with.

01:45:55.860 I wish I could tell you otherwise.

01:45:57.620 I wish I could tell you, boy, I've always understood this or that.

01:46:00.160 I didn't.

01:46:02.280 I just, it just wasn't on my radar.

01:46:05.780 And if you would have pushed a little bit more, oh, come on, Jeff, you know, like pro-choice,

01:46:10.860 pro-life.

01:46:11.400 Come on, which one?

01:46:12.040 Probably 25, 30 years ago, maybe a little bit longer.

01:46:19.460 I probably would have said, well, you know, make a choice, whatever.

01:46:22.660 I don't know.

01:46:24.040 Your body, your choice.

01:46:25.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:46:25.760 That's good for me.

01:46:26.420 Okay.

01:46:27.980 And then this interesting thing happened about 21 years ago.

01:46:34.180 Heidi and I are married.

01:46:35.340 And we want to have a family.

01:46:39.660 And so we get the good news.

01:46:44.840 Hey, congratulations.

01:46:47.300 Heidi's pregnant. 0.52

01:46:48.920 Okay.

01:46:51.000 Now, I remind Heidi on a regular basis.

01:46:54.360 I probably shouldn't, but I do.

01:46:55.660 She was of, quote, advanced maternal age.

01:47:01.280 Anybody over the age of 30 apparently was of advanced maternal age.

01:47:06.540 Now, what did that mean?

01:47:07.480 It meant, number one, I had a lot of jokes I could make, and I really couldn't make them

01:47:13.380 because it would wind up in a very sad situation.

01:47:16.660 Something would have been thrown at me.

01:47:18.980 But the other thing it meant was this.

01:47:21.500 Because Heidi was, quote, of an advanced maternal age, we had these regular ultrasounds. 0.96

01:47:28.380 It's like every couple of weeks.

01:47:32.040 So I remember the first one.

01:47:34.280 And we went, and the doctor showed us the picture.

01:47:41.520 And I looked at it, and I thought, I don't see anything.

01:47:48.440 And then I said, I don't see anything.

01:47:50.100 And then Heidi, like, hit me with her arm. 1.00

01:47:52.040 I'm like, all right.

01:47:52.700 But I don't.

01:47:53.240 I don't see anything.

01:47:55.000 And the doctor said, right over here.

01:47:56.620 See?

01:47:57.520 And I went, ow.

01:47:58.920 I thought that was, like, you know, somebody made a mark with a magic marker.

01:48:02.900 He said, no, no, no, that's your child.

01:48:05.820 Oh, wow.

01:48:07.380 Fantastic.

01:48:08.860 And I thought, eh.

01:48:10.680 And then we go back a couple of weeks later.

01:48:12.980 Now I can see where the little mark is.

01:48:16.120 I was like, no kidding.

01:48:17.120 Is that like a tiny little cat?

01:48:19.280 Is that so nondescript?

01:48:21.620 I mean, I don't get it.

01:48:22.980 Okay.

01:48:24.020 And then, I don't know, two weeks later, whatever it was, now he looks like a bean.

01:48:29.220 Honest to goodness, he looks like a lima bean.

01:48:30.780 I swear to you, the kid looked like a lima bean.

01:48:33.580 Everybody did that, right?

01:48:34.840 In, like, third, fourth grade, same assignment given to every child in America.

01:48:39.660 All right, here's a couple of lima beans.

01:48:41.160 Now you go home, and you get a glass.

01:48:44.020 And you take a paper towel, and you wet it, and you put that inside the glass, and then you put the bean on the outside.

01:48:49.080 That's what this kid looked like.

01:48:50.260 He looked like a flippin' lima bean.

01:48:53.740 And I used to talk about it.

01:48:54.980 I was so proud.

01:48:56.160 You know, I was a first-time father.

01:48:57.740 There was a picture of the bean, and I called him the bean all the time.

01:49:04.360 And then, I don't know, a couple of weeks later, all of a sudden, the bean has, like, little tiny legs and feet, and I think it's an eye.

01:49:12.340 I don't know what it is.

01:49:14.540 But it's clearly not a lima bean anymore.

01:49:18.400 Not that it ever was.

01:49:19.700 And as we progress and progress and progress, well, it's clear it's not a lima bean, and it's not a puppy, and it's not a phone, it's not an office chair.

01:49:35.860 It's clear, this is a real, honest-to-goodness, little, living human being.

01:49:45.180 And my world changed at that point.

01:49:48.700 Completely and totally.

01:49:49.860 I mean, you talk about a 180.

01:49:52.520 There was no choice here.

01:49:55.260 There was a child there.

01:49:56.900 This was just something inside that said, you're a father, and you have an obligation to protect that child.

01:50:15.840 And that's where I am now.

01:50:18.820 I mean, Harry's 20 years old at this point.

01:50:21.820 Long ago, stopped being a bean.

01:50:23.840 And he's a brilliant kid.

01:50:27.720 But I just think the contrast of people saying, oh, poor Sarah Weddington.

01:50:33.620 She unleashed this horrible, horrible thing on America in 1973. 1.00

01:50:38.740 But it's so sad she died at age 76.

01:50:44.140 And you think about all of those people who could have accomplished great things.

01:50:50.460 Maybe there was a doctor or a scientist who would have found a cure for this or that.

01:51:00.560 But because of Sarah Weddington, they didn't.

01:51:04.540 Now, I don't want to beat up on anybody.

01:51:06.920 A family is grieving the loss of another family member.

01:51:10.660 I understand that.

01:51:11.580 But just like Professor Alan Dershowitz said a couple of moments ago when he was talking about Archbishop Desmond Tutu and his virulent anti-Semitism.

01:51:21.960 What did Professor Dershowitz say?

01:51:23.520 He said, it's the totality, right?

01:51:27.280 You can't get away from that bad thing.

01:51:31.520 It's part of who you are.

01:51:33.000 I jump forward just a little bit.

01:51:38.480 Heidi and I are still in the family creating business.

01:51:44.460 And we've got Julia.

01:51:47.500 And I've shared with you, Julia's got a variety of challenges and special needs.

01:51:52.880 18 years old now, but that's chronologically, developmentally about 18 months old.

01:51:57.980 So, just as we're realizing about a year into Julia's life, oh my gosh, we have no idea what's going on here.

01:52:10.100 We really don't.

01:52:11.560 Did we do something?

01:52:12.760 What did we do, in fact, was our first question.

01:52:14.580 What did we do?

01:52:16.260 Why is she going to have these disabilities? 1.00

01:52:19.540 Why is this going to happen?

01:52:20.580 Why isn't that going to happen?

01:52:21.740 What did we do?

01:52:22.420 What did we do?

01:52:22.980 What do we do?

01:52:23.500 We find Heidi's pregnant again. 0.99

01:52:30.000 And we go to the doctor.

01:52:34.480 And the doctor says, yep, yeah, you're pregnant. 0.69

01:52:38.840 And without missing a beat, without taking a breath, says to us, now, given what's going on with the other one,

01:52:50.360 if you want to take care of this, you need to do it quickly.

01:53:01.940 Now, I'm not the brightest guy in the room.

01:53:06.720 But I understood what that doctor was saying.

01:53:09.480 Given the difficulties, disabilities, challenges that the other one is going through.

01:53:18.000 And that other one, by the way, would be my beautiful princess, Julia.

01:53:22.580 If we want to avoid those sorts of problems, if we want to not deal with those sorts of issues with this one,

01:53:32.400 we need to do something quickly.

01:53:35.200 Well, that wasn't an option for us.

01:53:40.840 And this one is now an amazing young man, 17 years old.

01:53:49.300 I just think we have an obligation.

01:53:51.360 I really do.

01:53:52.940 And I don't mean to get on the soapbox or preach or bring everybody down.

01:53:56.960 It's so maudlin, Jeff.

01:53:58.120 My God, I know.

01:53:59.100 But we've got to care.

01:54:04.820 We've just got to value human life.

01:54:09.780 I just felt compelled to share that with you.

01:54:12.240 If you want to hit me up, you can do that, of course.

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01:54:32.340 Jeff Katz, happy, happy to be sitting in today for Glenn.

01:54:35.320 It is the Glenn Beck Program.

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01:54:40.700 The woke mob rears its ugly head in this country every single day.

01:54:58.080 You know it, I know it, and increasingly, our kids know it, too.

01:55:02.180 They see it when they watch something on television or YouTube.

01:55:04.940 They absorb it in conversations that take place all around them.

01:55:08.180 And maybe worst of all, they're increasingly being fed heaping helpings of it in our school.

01:55:13.620 So what are we doing to fight back?

01:55:15.240 It's important that you are talking to your kids about what makes this nation great.

01:55:19.600 What can you use to help instill those values in kids?

01:55:23.080 Well, a good book.

01:55:24.540 That's why I love the Tuttle Twins books so much.

01:55:27.000 They offer your kids an entertaining and educational look at American values and American history.

01:55:32.560 They tell great stories, teach your kids about the value of limited government,

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01:55:40.580 Get these books for your kids today.

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01:55:50.120 That's TuttleTwinsBeck.com and get 35% off today.

01:55:53.720 It's the Glenn Beck program.

01:55:58.440 Jeff Katz in for Glenn today.

01:56:01.400 Did you ever show up in court dressed like an elf?

01:56:03.720 No, of course not, because you are a sane, rational human being,

01:56:06.900 and I'm hoping you've never actually been a defendant in a criminal case.

01:56:10.380 But that's what happened over in England.

01:56:12.540 And I said an elf, E-L-F, right?

01:56:15.820 Just came through the whole elfin season, right?

01:56:18.220 Elves very, very popular during the month of December.

01:56:21.640 And now, not so much.

01:56:23.860 The story involves a gentleman, and I do use that term loosely,

01:56:29.360 Janil Veraner, 60 years old.

01:56:32.420 He lives in Chatham.

01:56:34.460 He showed up to his latest criminal court hearing dressed as an elf. 0.95

01:56:42.900 Now, could be a joke, could be a goof, or he could just be crazy, right? 0.99

01:56:49.480 Well, he's not just crazy. 0.99

01:56:51.640 He's dangerous, because he's 60 years old. 0.94

01:56:54.860 But guess what?

01:56:56.100 He, quote, identifies as a five-year-old girl.

01:57:00.740 And what has he done?

01:57:02.900 He's gone around that area kissing little girls on the lips.

01:57:10.560 Repeatedly.

01:57:11.540 In multiple locations.

01:57:13.600 Multiple girls. 1.00

01:57:14.500 He's been arrested for this.

01:57:17.620 He had a, basically a keep-away order.

01:57:20.240 He's not supposed to be around children.

01:57:21.920 Guess what?

01:57:23.720 Continues to find himself around children.

01:57:25.720 Continues to go up and just kiss on the lips.

01:57:28.720 Random little girls that he finds.

01:57:31.040 Oh, also a 15-month prison sentence.

01:57:36.500 And his latest visit to court, he is dressed as an elf.

01:57:40.740 Now, at some point, you and I have to stop indulging fantasies.

01:57:51.120 He's not an elf.

01:57:52.900 He's not a five-year-old girl. 0.99

01:57:54.760 What he is, by definition, is a pedophile.

01:57:59.540 And he needs to be arrested and prosecuted and sent to prison.

01:58:08.000 Now, I don't know why we are so terrified of simply standing up and saying,

01:58:12.460 how about doing the right things for the right reasons?

01:58:16.760 How about protecting our families?

01:58:21.440 Oh, the last thing I've got to share with you.

01:58:23.700 Joe Biden has, in fact, conceded there is no federal solution to COVID.

01:58:30.180 Can we hear that little snippet from Slow Mo, Joe?

01:58:34.860 Look, there is no federal solution.

01:58:37.780 This gets solved at a state level.

01:58:40.020 I'm looking at Governor Sununu on the board here.

01:58:42.320 He talks about that a lot.

01:58:43.800 And it ultimately gets down to where the rubber meets the road.

01:58:47.600 And that's where the patient is in need of help or preventing the need for help.

01:58:53.700 This is the same president who said, elect me and I will beat COVID.

01:58:59.540 The same White House team that said it's all about presidential leadership.

01:59:03.880 It's all about the federal government.

01:59:06.080 And in a rare moment of clarity, and perhaps he just stumbled inadvertently into the truth,

01:59:14.060 Joe Biden says there's no federal cure for COVID.

01:59:19.200 Think about that, will you?

01:59:21.320 Somebody needs to tell Dr. Fauci, right?

01:59:23.700 Hey, remember, stay in touch, if you would.

01:59:25.360 The Jeff Katz Show on Facebook and the website, thejeffkatzshow.com.

01:59:29.220 Thanks so much to Glenn and Dom and Sarah and Martin for letting me sit in for a couple of days.

01:59:34.800 It is Jeff Katz, and this is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:59:37.520 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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The Glenn Beck Program - December 28, 2021

Rewriting the Present ｜ Guest Host： Jeff Katz ｜ Guests： Winsome Sears, Tom Ziglar, & Alan Dershowitz ｜ 12⧸28⧸21

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