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00:01:38.260 Hello, America, and welcome to the program. Lots to talk about, lots to cover, a lot of really important people that are going to be talking about the FBI, the SEC, Twitter, General Milley, you name it.

00:02:01.320 We have it covered today. I have just a few minutes to talk to you about the economy, and we're going to start there in 60 seconds.

00:02:08.560 Okay, speaking of the economy, I have no idea what is going to happen with housing prices.

00:02:19.720 I have no idea. I just know the Case-Shiller Index, which is always the one that says,

00:02:24.960 Hey, don't buy, you're at the top of the market, is double, double where we were back in 2008.

00:02:32.820 It's never been this high. That means we are way overpriced with housing.

00:02:38.520 However, you've got people like BlackRock and everybody else buying all these houses now, paying more than the asking price.

00:02:48.180 Why?

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00:04:03.080 All right.

00:04:03.960 I want to talk to you about a couple of things that are very, very concerning to me.

00:04:10.000 Um, something I told you last night on the TV show that there are, uh, 11 things that the left has needed that I have been watching since about 2000, 2008.

00:04:24.000 2008, that I started doing my homework on revolution.

00:04:28.880 And I talked to people all over the world that have either witnessed them or are professors that understand this, this system.

00:04:39.160 I mean, it really is.

00:04:40.480 You have to have a system to overthrow a nation if you're going to do it successfully.

00:04:45.080 And it runs the same way.

00:04:47.180 And I put these 11 things together and I've been watching them for 20 some years because of that.

00:04:55.260 Um, I really didn't think all of them would come into play.

00:05:00.700 I thought there were about four or five.

00:05:02.200 I thought they'll never, they'll never get this.

00:05:05.540 Military was one of them.

00:05:07.640 Intelligence agency was another one.

00:05:10.080 I never thought that they would be able to turn the police force against the people.

00:05:16.200 And they haven't, they've just destroyed it.

00:05:19.160 They have all of the pieces they need.

00:05:21.820 Last night on the chalkboard, I added a couple of others.

00:05:24.340 One, what does this collapse into?

00:05:27.800 So you need a net and then you do a controlled collapse.

00:05:32.220 You manage the decline.

00:05:33.980 And that's the phase we're in right now.

00:05:36.240 You will not recognize your lifestyle.

00:05:41.720 Hear me.

00:05:43.360 I've said you won't recognize your country.

00:05:46.340 And that is true.

00:05:47.600 And you don't recognize it if, if, if you're anything like me or any of my friends, you don't recognize this country anymore.

00:05:57.040 It's not the same country.

00:05:58.540 And you know we're on the wrong track.

00:06:00.840 And, and that's not a left right thing.

00:06:03.320 That's a right wrong thing.

00:06:04.720 We're on the wrong track.

00:06:06.240 Uh, I'm telling you now new information.

00:06:09.420 You are not going to recognize the American lifestyle.

00:06:14.660 And I don't want to put a time on it because I'm always wrong in timing, but it could happen tomorrow.

00:06:19.600 It could happen in five years from now, but it will happen.

00:06:24.820 We are headed for a very different country.

00:06:29.140 One where you don't have the rights that you have, and you certainly don't have the economic privileges that Americans are used to.

00:06:40.560 And when I say privileges, I mean energy.

00:06:44.880 I mean, going out and getting a hamburger.

00:06:46.980 There's a couple of things that I want to talk to you about, and next Wednesday night, I'm doing a special on the economy that you really need to pay attention to.

00:06:58.340 But something happened last night, and honestly, I wish I had a crystal ball that could give me an answer here.

00:07:05.180 But something important happened in China, and I'm not sure how this is going to affect us yet.

00:07:11.300 I've got my tentacles out to a few people that I respect.

00:07:15.520 So far, they're all like, I don't know.

00:07:18.780 I don't know.

00:07:19.360 This is big, but I don't know.

00:07:21.360 You just need to have it on your radar.

00:07:24.600 The Lehman Brothers collapse.

00:07:27.240 Remember, there was Bear Stearns and then Lehman Brothers.

00:07:30.460 When Lehman Brothers collapsed in 2008, that's when the crap hit the fan, right?

00:07:36.620 That's when we went into full-fledged tarp.

00:07:39.320 We've got to destroy the free market to save the free market.

00:07:42.600 That's when all the lights around the world were supposed to go out because of the collapse of Lehman Brothers.

00:07:49.020 Now, yesterday, and I told you about this last week, that it looked like it was coming.

00:07:58.800 But yesterday, the Chinese Lehman Brothers collapsed.

00:08:04.000 And it's going to have a cascading effect on the Chinese financial markets.

00:08:09.660 And it's weird because I'm not sure how this is going to work because China is such a different market.

00:08:20.080 The good news here is the Lehman, the Chinese version of Lehman Brothers, does not, we don't have a lot of exposure to it.

00:08:30.000 According to an article I read last night, 90% of Evergrande's, that's the name of their Lehman Brothers, it's owned by Chinese investors, mostly institutional.

00:08:43.020 So the losses are isolated to China or more so to China than Lehman Brothers, where they had about 50% of all of the exposure was overseas.

00:08:54.600 Only 10% of this is overseas.

00:08:58.920 However, this is going to be really, really bad for the Asian markets.

00:09:03.860 And when I say Asian, I mean Australia and New Zealand.

00:09:07.960 Australia is going to get hit hard by this because their Social Security Trust Fund was invested in this company, through this company.

00:09:19.180 It's a huge part of their Social Security Fund is in this.

00:09:27.240 So you're going to start to see decline of lifestyle and decline for senior citizens in the Asian Pacific region.

00:09:41.680 This is going to have big ripple effects.

00:09:47.340 I don't know how yet.

00:09:50.500 What the problem was is derivatives.

00:09:55.000 The same thing that happened in 2008 now has happened in China.

00:10:00.720 And by the way, our derivative problem is far bigger, far bigger than it was in 2008.

00:10:11.440 Far bigger.

00:10:12.660 This time, it's going to take everything down.

00:10:16.880 When it collapses, it will take everything down.

00:10:20.620 Now, here's what I want you to know about this in China.

00:10:23.380 This is the most important lesson we can learn from this today.

00:10:27.360 This is China's investment.

00:10:34.420 They took all of this money and they had shovel ready projects, public housing and ghost cities.

00:10:40.520 All of those things that were built were built in and around this firm.

00:10:47.000 So all of those ghost cities, all of those things, there is no return on investment on things that usually the government is looking to do.

00:10:58.600 When they fund these things, oh, we're investing in the future.

00:11:02.580 That's what China said.

00:11:04.880 But there is no return on that investment because no one is there paying rent.

00:11:11.060 How can you invest in our country and say we're investing by helping people, paying people and giving them no job, making sure they're sitting on their butt at home and also canceling their rent payments and their mortgage payments?

00:11:30.600 That will collapse an economy.

00:11:34.360 It just happened with their bridges and cities to nowhere.

00:11:39.600 This is important that you understand what's happening.

00:11:43.700 I'd like to page John Galt.

00:11:45.480 Are you out there?

00:11:47.240 Are you out there, John?

00:11:49.800 Because Atlas Shrugged is happening right now.

00:11:54.840 Now, there's a couple of other things that I wanted to share with you.

00:11:58.640 The Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement has said now that staff are still evacuated from 36 production platforms, and that's about 7% of all the manned platforms in the Gulf of Mexico because of Hurricane Ida.

00:12:18.980 What this means is we are going to be way, way, way short of our oil.

00:12:30.880 And remember, Saudi Arabia is not really a friend of ours anymore.

00:12:35.580 They're not cutting us any special deals because we don't have the clout anymore.

00:12:41.120 China is getting the special deals.

00:12:43.320 We, they just made a deal.

00:12:45.880 We asked them.

00:12:46.660 Joe Biden went to them and said, hey, can you control this a little bit?

00:12:49.280 Open up the spigots.

00:12:50.480 Nope.

00:12:51.220 But they did give China a break on their oil.

00:12:54.780 We have, we are managing our decline.

00:13:01.940 The reason why Donald Trump was so hated by the people of Davos and all of these corporations that work together and all of the deep state is because the deep state and all of these corporations and financial institutions,

00:13:20.000 they've screwed things up and so they have decided that America is no longer going to be the leader of the free world and they will manage this decline and bring us into line with the rest of the world and then they'll have their great reset.

00:13:38.540 This is why I say you are not going to have the privilege of your lifestyle in the coming months, years, decades, because the people who are in charge of America now no longer believe in America.

00:13:56.420 If I were president of America, if I were president of the United States, Donald Trump was president of the United States, Ronald Reagan, he would not be saying, well, we're just going to give up and let's manage the decline.

00:14:07.760 He would be saying, what do we do to have to get back to our full potential?

00:14:14.500 That's why we were energy independent.

00:14:16.520 And that is why Joe Biden took us and took us to a place where now our gas prices are going to go through the roof.

00:14:27.000 One other story that came out today, the U.S. and the EU seek to partner in a joint pledge to cut methane emissions by 2030 by 30 percent.

00:14:42.480 Stu, what is the main source of methane emissions?

00:14:46.520 In America, there's many sources, but people like to talk about livestock.

00:14:51.940 Livestock.

00:14:52.320 Let's just put it nicely.

00:14:53.340 Livestock.

00:14:54.200 Remember, the World Economic Forum, the left, everybody, including the meat processing companies, are telling you that meat is going to be a rarity and something for special occasions only by 2030.

00:15:12.700 This is part of it.

00:15:13.960 Again, they are managing this.

00:15:18.320 It is so critical that I've.

00:15:24.700 Well, I'll tell you about that later.

00:15:27.260 It is so critical right now that you please inform yourself, prepare for impact.

00:15:35.100 And whatever you do, do not get angry.

00:15:41.220 There is a couple of things that I want to talk to you about this Capital Six rioter thing.

00:15:47.620 It's a setup.

00:15:48.960 I believe this is very possibly a setup.

00:15:53.160 There is we've had people online looking.

00:15:57.380 There is no buzz on this.

00:15:59.420 No buzz on this.

00:16:01.140 It's as if it's not happening.

00:16:02.920 And then Roger Stone call comes out and even Roger Stone says, don't go to that.

00:16:08.420 Don't.

00:16:09.140 It's a setup.

00:16:10.460 With what we learned about the FBI yesterday and what we already know, you cannot trust the FBI.

00:16:20.380 You cannot trust things.

00:16:23.480 You know, they are telling you to deny the things that your eyes see.

00:16:27.720 I'm telling you, don't trust anything.

00:16:35.000 You have to be very careful.

00:16:38.100 Verify, verify everything and be very careful because the two things I added to the chalkboard, one, the net.

00:16:47.600 What is it collapsing into?

00:16:49.360 We know.

00:16:50.240 We know now.

00:16:51.560 It's the great reset.

00:16:53.340 And the second thing is the event.

00:16:56.300 I don't know what the event will be, but there will come an event.

00:17:02.800 And God forbid it's something like January 6th, but there will be an event that will give them the excuse to say, let it go.

00:17:13.300 Now we've got it.

00:17:14.780 Now put it into the net.

00:17:17.660 Please be very careful.

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00:18:23.020 What we need to do is come together and you're already seeing it.

00:18:42.460 You're already seeing it.

00:18:44.080 This Nicki Minaj story, which I'm not really even following, it's about swollen testicles and the White House.

00:18:55.080 And I mean, it's like crazy.

00:18:56.660 Okay.

00:18:57.620 Those are the two things involved in the story.

00:18:59.740 That's true.

00:19:00.000 And Nicki Minaj.

00:19:01.580 It's bizarre what's going on.

00:19:03.620 But there are people that are waking, not woke, but awake.

00:19:09.560 That's really important.

00:19:12.300 You must be awake, but do not equate that with being woke, because if you're woke, you're dead asleep.

00:19:22.660 Brett Weinstein and Heather Hang, these are biology professors at Evergreen State College.

00:19:30.240 Um, they are truly remarkable people.

00:19:34.740 They couldn't disagree with me more on certain issues.

00:19:39.540 I have, I started the Glenn Beck podcast, I don't know, three, four years ago, because I wanted to have these two on.

00:19:47.780 And they would never accept my invitation, but it was, that's what my podcast was designed to be.

00:19:55.120 People who disagree with each other, but can walk away friends.

00:20:00.240 And can walk away and see, okay, wow, that's a really good point you're making.

00:20:04.740 Never thought of it that way.

00:20:06.980 And have open and honest discussions.

00:20:10.920 Well, they are on my podcast today.

00:20:15.060 And, uh, they approach things much differently.

00:20:18.740 They speak a different language because they were on the left, but they saw what the left was doing.

00:20:25.260 These, these guys are left of center.

00:20:29.520 Uh, they don't agree with me on certain policies and I don't agree with them, but I really respect them.

00:20:35.320 And, um, they're the founding members of the intellectual dark web.

00:20:39.760 They've just written a book called the hunter gatherers guide to the 21st century.

00:20:43.280 Uh, and it is real.

00:20:45.380 It has some really important points.

00:20:47.920 Um, I just recorded the podcast with them and it is vital that you listen to this podcast and you share it with friends that you don't necessarily agree with.

00:21:00.260 Because we must become strange bedfellows.

00:21:04.980 We must stop hating the things that we are against and start loving the things that we are for.

00:21:14.260 We have to be happy warriors.

00:21:18.340 We have to be the people that others look to and go, I want to be like them.

00:21:24.800 I, I, I mean, look at these guys.

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00:21:34.860 That's the way I feel about Brett and Heather.

00:21:37.780 These guys are not part of the problem.

00:21:40.400 And as, as Brett Weinstein said to me, and I think this is, this is such a great statement and I could say it about him.

00:21:48.960 He said, Glenn, you and I could be neighbors.

00:21:50.720 I think we'd be great neighbors.

00:21:52.680 Now we're, we couldn't be further from political, uh, lineage here, but we agree on certain principles and that's where we need to get back to.

00:22:06.120 So please download, if you, if you have the blaze, it's out today, uh, and you'll be able to, uh, watch it, uh, shortly after this program airs.

00:22:15.960 Uh, it is the Brett, Brett Weinstein and Heather Haying, uh, interview on the Glenn Beck podcast.

00:22:23.760 It'll be out everywhere on Saturday available on blaze TV.

00:22:27.980 Now, this is the Glenn Beck program.

00:22:30.860 Okay, have a really tough issue to go over here.

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00:24:02.680 This is the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:05.800 I want to have an adult conversation here,

00:24:10.960 which means I want you to think of things in a different way.

00:24:17.020 I've been looking into this Twitter and the Hunter Biden laptop

00:24:25.160 and how Twitter was found okay with what they did with the laptop

00:24:32.320 and banning everybody from talking about the laptop.

00:24:35.180 They say it was a business decision.

00:24:36.560 And it was cleared by the FEC, the Federal Elections Commission.

00:24:42.740 And my first knee-jerk was, of course, they get away with it.

00:24:49.960 But as I look into it and I listen to people who were actually there and helped make the decision,

00:24:59.060 I think the SEC may have done the right thing because we are a system of rules

00:25:07.280 and I do not want mission drift from any government agency, especially the FEC.

00:25:17.120 I want to talk to and introduce you to Trey Traynor.

00:25:20.860 He is a commissioner of the Federal Election Commission.

00:25:24.100 He was appointed by President Donald Trump.

00:25:27.580 He, if I'm not mistaken, he voted to say, you know, Twitter did no wrong.

00:25:34.120 But I want you to listen to why.

00:25:37.020 Because these are the moments of courage.

00:25:40.920 If you agree with what I believe he did,

00:25:44.820 these are the moments of courage that we must have.

00:25:47.760 And we must be careful not to condemn people

00:25:51.180 because they didn't take a shortcut.

00:25:54.620 No shortcuts.

00:25:55.640 They will only get us into more trouble.

00:25:59.340 Trey is with us now.

00:26:00.720 James E. Trey Traynor, the third, from the FEC.

00:26:06.400 Trey, thank you for the courage for not only doing what you did,

00:26:09.280 but also coming on the program today.

00:26:10.820 I know you're getting heat from all sides.

00:26:13.700 Thank you.

00:26:14.420 Thank you, Glenn.

00:26:15.120 And yes, I am.

00:26:16.760 And so I really appreciate the opportunity to talk about the decision that we made.

00:26:20.600 OK, so we've got about eight minutes to go through this.

00:26:25.140 Sure.

00:26:25.560 Here's the here's the thing.

00:26:27.160 They the Twitter and Jack blocked a New York Post story about the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:26:34.140 They said they were acting for business reasons.

00:26:37.920 My knee jerk reaction is they weren't acting for business reasons.

00:26:41.960 They were censoring this to make sure that they weren't affecting the election in a negative way

00:26:48.780 because they thought they got Donald Trump elected by covering all the stuff Donald Trump said.

00:26:54.900 How did you view it and why did you guys come up with?

00:27:00.100 Yeah, Twitter did no wrong here.

00:27:02.580 Well, Glenn, I always start with the fact that the Federal Election Commission is an agency that is explicitly designed by our government to limit our First Amendment rights.

00:27:12.660 And as such, it really is the wrong vehicle to go after social media companies because there's really a greater harm to our First Amendment free speech rights if we were to expand the jurisdiction of the commission.

00:27:28.340 And our court system has said that the sole purpose of the Federal Election Commission is to regulate constitutionally protected speech.

00:27:35.420 So we have a very limited jurisdiction and we need to be very protective of what we claim to be violations of campaign finance law.

00:27:45.780 And so if you would have is I understand this and I haven't heard your opinion on this.

00:27:53.680 But if I understand this, if you guys would have gone after Twitter because you're looking at Twitter and you're not determining whether or not they're a publisher or an editor.

00:28:04.740 You're you don't have that authority.

00:28:07.760 You're looking at them or you can look at them and say this is an editorial decision, whether that's right or wrong.

00:28:14.380 That's for another agency.

00:28:15.900 But if we for an editorial decision, if we get them, then you can come after me on talk radio.

00:28:23.520 You can come after anybody who is doing things like this that claim to be an editor.

00:28:28.980 Is that correct?

00:28:30.500 That is exactly correct.

00:28:32.020 You know, it is if we were to say that the decision to throttle the Hunter Biden story was a violation of campaign finance, then we would have a flood of complaints where we would have to find the same thing, whether it be you.

00:28:47.520 You know, God rest his soul, it would have been every time Rush went on the radio explaining anything, it would have been all of everybody on the right would have gotten a complaint filed against them immediately if we would have found that Twitter had violated campaign finance rule.

00:29:07.760 So, you know, and I can understand why people think that it's a campaign finance violation, because, you know, people of goodwill believing in the virtue of their cause are going to reach for whatever tool they seem to see available.

00:29:21.160 And they think of the federal election commission as that entity that's the easiest to go after.

00:29:29.260 But, you know, when you look at it, the federal election campaign act was was last amended in 2002.

00:29:36.900 And so it really predates anything that we have to do in our modern world.

00:29:42.400 I mean, at that time, AOL was the was the biggest thing on the Internet.

00:29:46.620 And we were still using modems and desktops.

00:29:49.340 So, you know, they're trying to apply a statute that that deals with technologies that are that are no longer existent and apply them to technologies where, you know, today people get all of their news, you know, in the handheld device.

00:30:09.440 You know, I mean, 15 percent of adult Americans get their news from Twitter, according to a few recent writing in 2021.

00:30:16.920 So we're talking about 39 million Americans getting their news from that entity.

00:30:22.480 And if you're going to allow a federal agency to start to regulate what an entity of news that goes to 39 million Americans can and can't say, then we're on a very slippery slope to the government regulating what any news site can say.

00:30:39.060 Right. I mean, I know our blaze Glenn Beck world footprint is about 50 million Americans a month.

00:30:47.200 That's a lot of people. And we would be in this regulation. We would be massive, massive targets.

00:30:55.560 So let me let me ask you this. And you can comment on this or not.

00:30:59.980 But as I as I see this, you could be saying or others could be saying, look, I think this is an in kind contribution to the extent that they knew what they were doing.

00:31:16.260 They knew they were swinging the election, but that because they're an editor, even though they claim they're not because they have editorial license and content, I can't call it a in kind contribution because it's technically not.

00:31:38.440 But that's kind of the way it feels to me. Is right. Would that be fair to say that it would be fair?

00:31:46.080 I mean, look, they decided to moderate the content that their users were allowed to see.

00:31:51.720 But do you believe it was for actual business reason? I'm not asking you on the legal side.

00:31:58.680 I'm asking as a person, does it does the the business?

00:32:03.420 What was their business reason for doing this?

00:32:05.900 Well, they have you know, they have specific algorithms that are proprietary to to Twitter.

00:32:12.960 They had concerns that material on the laptop itself had been hacked.

00:32:18.100 They have they actually have written business policies that they produced to the commission that show that they will not, you know, reproduce hacked materials.

00:32:27.460 And they had concerns about criminal investigations that were ongoing.

00:32:33.660 And so, you know, they have specific business purposes that they produced to the commission that, you know, they they're not going to allow law enforcement material to be applied.

00:32:44.940 So they they had, you know, complex business reasons that exist preexisted.

00:32:51.980 The story related to Hunter Biden as part of their policy.

00:32:56.580 And so it was legitimate business activity on their part that reflected a commercial consideration that they have.

00:33:03.040 And once you step into that realm, the commission no longer has jurisdiction over it.

00:33:10.900 And, you know, the fact of the matter is, is even if that commercial activity would have had an explicit partisan bias because it was, in fact, commercial activity, it was something that cannot be regulated by the federal government.

00:33:24.620 We don't want to be in the business of regulating how businesses are run and what editorial decisions they make when they're moderating those.

00:33:34.600 All right. So wait. So wait. So let me ask you one question here that is a change in me.

00:33:39.500 I've always been free market. I still am.

00:33:42.300 I am a I am a I am a free market constitutionalist.

00:33:47.540 I don't think we have a free market anymore and we haven't looked at the Constitution.

00:33:52.180 I mean, God knows what the National Archives are going to say about it next.

00:33:57.000 With that being said, I'm to the point now where I think conservatives need to wake up.

00:34:06.240 And this may be different than your official role as the Federal Election Commission officer.

00:34:12.540 We have got to stop saying, well, it's private business.

00:34:17.420 They can do what they want. These businesses are colluding with each other and with the United States governor, government and a a political party.

00:34:27.560 So it's not just a private thing anymore.

00:34:31.200 This is a public private partnership.

00:34:33.880 And there's a difference between a free enterprise and a and a corporation that is not getting all kinds of favors and everything else and one that is.

00:34:48.160 So when you say we can't get into this realm, do you mean as conservatives and as all aspects of the government?

00:34:59.380 Or just the role of the SEC?

00:35:04.160 Well, I think first and foremost, I'm talking about the role of the Federal Election Commission.

00:35:08.620 But I think if you get back to first principles in talking about what we as conservatives need to do in order to get back to our constitutional roots,

00:35:19.500 we have to look towards what did the founders mean when they said that there is freedom of the press?

00:35:25.000 And they did not mean that we have to protect the modern journalistic class from some sort of regulation.

00:35:32.900 What they meant by that, rather, was that we need to protect the printing press and its modern analogies, the apparatus for being able to speak to the public.

00:35:44.700 And we have to protect the right of anyone to be able to disseminate their opinions, whatever those opinions may be, you know, left, right or center.

00:35:55.880 And that includes we have to protect the rights of Twitter to be able to disseminate their ideas, even if they're partisan and even if they, at the end, have an effect on what people believe from the news.

00:36:17.120 I mean, this is the real problem with the fake news is that we still have to protect that right to put out fake news.

00:36:25.900 Our founders were very, very clear on that.

00:36:29.260 Trey, I appreciate it.

00:36:30.540 I'm sorry.

00:36:30.940 I wish we had more time.

00:36:31.980 I'd like to talk to you more.

00:36:33.160 But I appreciate you coming on today.

00:36:35.100 I know it was not an easy choice.

00:36:36.960 But thank you.

00:36:38.340 And please hold fast to the Constitution, whether our side wins or loses because of that.

00:36:45.740 Just do the right thing.

00:36:47.520 Continue to do it.

00:36:48.460 Trey, thank you so much.

00:36:49.820 Thank you so much, Glenn.

00:36:50.700 You bet.

00:36:51.400 Commissioner of the Federal Election Commission.

00:36:54.280 We have some really important decisions to make as a country.

00:36:58.500 And not enough people are taking it seriously.

00:37:01.500 We're all just kind of playing the political game.

00:37:05.480 And that has to stop now or we are going to lose our country.

00:37:10.300 And there is, I don't know if you can feel the urgency that I feel, but I hope you can.

00:37:18.380 You're running out of time.

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00:38:37.720 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:38:45.220 We're glad you're here.

00:38:46.300 Let me just give you a couple of things.

00:38:49.480 The police in the Capitol are bracing for justice for J6.

00:38:56.160 It's a rally.

00:38:56.780 They put up the razor wire in the fences again around the Capitol.

00:39:00.820 They're doing the same thing that the media always does.

00:39:05.440 They are hyping this and expecting violence.

00:39:09.880 Republicans are saying steer clear of the rally.

00:39:14.380 Please don't.

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00:39:18.220 Ashley Babbitt's widower says,

00:39:20.380 Please, no violence at the Justice for Six rally on Sunday.

00:39:24.340 It'll only hurt.

00:39:25.520 Roger Stone says,

00:39:28.220 Don't go.

00:39:29.540 Don't go.

00:39:30.340 I think this is a setup.

00:39:32.240 Now, all of that sounds like a conspiracy theory

00:39:35.540 until you realize what happened yesterday in Congress.

00:39:41.320 What happened yesterday is is something I never, ever thought I would see.

00:39:50.140 This is the the news yesterday about the FBI that they are.

00:39:56.980 It's being reported.

00:39:57.620 They botched the case against Larry Nassar.

00:40:00.240 They didn't botch the case.

00:40:01.840 They lied.

00:40:03.600 They refused to do anything about it.

00:40:06.480 They didn't listen to the people who were assaulted sexually.

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00:40:12.600 And then when they filed the report, they made stuff up.

00:40:16.600 And yesterday, Christopher Wray said,

00:40:19.140 That comes as a complete.

00:40:20.520 As you know, that never happens.

00:40:22.300 We don't do that.

00:40:23.560 Yes, you do.

00:40:24.680 You do that all the time.

00:40:26.300 You did that apparently in the Whitmer Kidmat napping case.

00:40:29.740 You did that with the FISA courts.

00:40:32.380 You've done it now with Larry Nassar.

00:40:34.480 You keep doing it.

00:40:36.480 To be fair, he did say they were super duper sorry about it.

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00:40:40.320 Yeah.

00:40:40.680 He thought it was very probably enough.

00:40:43.320 And by the way, in all of those cases, none of the FBI agents have had to pay a price.

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00:40:51.480 Not one.

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00:42:33.460 Hello, America.

00:42:34.760 There are very few people that I truly trust, that I respect enough, that I see something and say, let me hear from this person first.

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00:45:09.000 So this thing with General Milley, I do not like to use the word treason because it is so specific in the Constitution and it requires the death penalty.

00:45:24.220 However, there has to be something that happens to General Milley.

00:45:29.660 I am so concerned about how out of control and how we don't care about chain of command.

00:45:37.240 We don't care about the Constitution anymore.

00:45:40.680 General Milley is defiant over his over a pressure to resign.

00:45:46.860 He says, look, I did another.

00:45:49.760 It was the perfect phone call.

00:45:51.860 I'm sorry.

00:45:53.680 It doesn't seem like it was.

00:45:56.500 And the one person that I really wanted to hear from was General Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin, who is the executive vice president of the Family Research Council.

00:46:07.380 General, what do we what do you take from this?

00:46:13.220 What is this normal?

00:46:17.240 No, I've never I've never seen this before.

00:46:21.400 I know that you could go back in time to MacArthur and say, as he ignored Harry Truman's orders and kept threatening the Chinese, that he was eventually relieved.

00:46:33.000 But that's the only thing in the history of our military that I'm even aware of.

00:46:37.640 Let me make one correction on what you said.

00:46:41.700 Treason does not require it, does not mandate the death penalty.

00:46:46.340 There are other penalties that can be assessed as well.

00:46:50.000 And and treason, one of the definitions of treason and part of the statutory definition of treason is providing aid and comfort to the enemy.

00:47:02.500 Now, when you tell your enemy that you are going to notify them, if we decide we're going to attack, what are you doing if you're not providing aid and comfort to the enemy?

00:47:15.940 This is an unprecedented situation with Mark Milley.

00:47:21.280 And I know that there are credible people that are saying, no, these phone calls are routine.

00:47:26.280 It's not the fact that he was talking to the Chinese.

00:47:29.280 It's the content.

00:47:30.560 It's the content of what he was saying to them and the fact that he did that behind the back of the president and did not inform the president.

00:47:40.700 And statutorily, he commands nothing.

00:47:44.580 He was the senior military advisor to the president on all things military.

00:47:50.540 But he has no command authority at all as the statutory advisor to the president.

00:47:57.320 You would think that he would let the president know this was undermining the president.

00:48:03.500 No matter how you cut it, he was undermining the president.

00:48:07.500 And it's based on his his political persuasion as well as his hatred for Donald Trump.

00:48:13.140 I will tell you that I would say exactly the same thing.

00:48:16.460 And I think you would, too, if a general would have done this in Afghanistan and called England and said, look, I got to give you the heads up and did what we all think would have been the right thing to do for the president to do.

00:48:35.160 But if a general would have done these things, I would have been out of my mind.

00:48:39.920 We are run by civilians, and I hate what this president is doing to our military and to our credibility around the world and to our citizens in Afghanistan.

00:48:53.000 But the thing I was proud of is I know the troops felt the same way, yet they did it because it was a legal and lawful order.

00:49:03.220 Glenn, you said it, civilian control of the military.

00:49:08.980 That is so fundamental to who we are as a nation.

00:49:12.540 That is not only, you know, a operating principle, but it's an ethos.

00:49:19.180 Yes.

00:49:19.440 We believe in civilian control of the military.

00:49:22.260 And when when you do what Mark Milley has done, you are setting yourself up to supplant the authority of the president.

00:49:31.560 OK.

00:49:32.000 Under Article two of our Constitution, he is the commander in chief.

00:49:37.140 So let me go ahead.

00:49:39.160 No, no, please finish.

00:49:40.800 I just find this so grievous.

00:49:45.300 And it's not a Republican or Democrat issue.

00:49:48.200 Every American, every American should be very concerned right now, because it's the first time in our history that we've seen this kind of thing as a rogue.

00:49:59.340 I consider Mark Milley to be a rogue, not just based on this, but on other things where he went off on this white rage issue.

00:50:08.200 And he was bragging about the fact that he's reading Kendi's books and and other things.

00:50:16.280 Every American should be very concerned about this, because if if this had gone as far as it could have potentially gone, this would have essentially been a military coup.

00:50:28.760 So let me let me ask you a couple of scenarios here and just just help me think things through.

00:50:36.560 Apparently, I mean, if he would have called the Chinese and said that and you can you can dismiss this as like we've known each other for a long time.

00:50:45.780 And so I'm just look, if nothing's crazy going to happen, blah, blah, blah.

00:50:50.940 And I'll call you in advance.

00:50:53.340 If the president would have said, hey, call your guys and say this is fine.

00:50:57.920 But the president wasn't involved, no matter who else was involved, because this is them trying to say, well, there are lots of people that knew about this phone call.

00:51:06.180 Not the president, but lots of people were in on it.

00:51:08.700 Well, that to me makes it worse in that a conspiracy, then, to thwart the authority of the commander in chief.

00:51:17.360 I go back to what what I said earlier.

00:51:20.100 He is the senior advisor to the president on all things military.

00:51:25.760 Now, you can't have those kinds of conversations and not do your statutory duties.

00:51:32.260 And that is to keep the president informed.

00:51:35.140 This was undermining the president.

00:51:37.680 And I understand that he can talk to the Chinese, the Russians, even the Iranians or whoever he wants to talk to.

00:51:45.540 But he does have a statutory responsibility to keep the president advised as the senior advisor to the president on all things military.

00:51:55.860 And his intent was to do this without the president knowing it and to undermine the president.

00:52:03.720 And if Esper, in fact, knew about it, the two of them are complicit in this.

00:52:09.940 But Chris Miller says he did not know about the call that was allegedly made while he was the acting secretary of defense.

00:52:17.960 That would have been Millie's direct boss, correct?

00:52:22.240 Yeah.

00:52:23.020 Well, that's a no.

00:52:25.540 No.

00:52:25.760 There is a concept called the national command authority.

00:52:30.000 That's the people who have the authority to deploy forces.

00:52:35.620 And that is the secretary of defense and the president of the United States.

00:52:41.920 Millie is an advisor.

00:52:44.060 He does not have command authority.

00:52:46.540 He's an advisor.

00:52:48.600 So, obviously, any chairman that is worth his his weight is going to keep in close contact with the secretary of defense.

00:52:58.760 He would tell the secretary of defense if he's going to make a call like that.

00:53:02.940 He would keep him informed in terms of what the outcome of that was.

00:53:07.060 He might even share the transcript.

00:53:08.900 But apparently that did not have a certainly did not handle with Chris Miller.

00:53:15.000 And that then calls into question, why did you not inform the secretary of defense, who is one half of the national command authorities that has the authority to deploy troops unless you were trying to undermine both him and the president?

00:53:34.680 All right.

00:53:34.880 So they are the national command authority.

00:53:36.860 So let me see if I have this understanding right on the second part of this.

00:53:42.280 And that is Nancy Pelosi was involved.

00:53:44.260 She was concerned that, you know, Trump was just going to turn the keys and we were going to blow up China.

00:53:50.240 And he is spinning this, as he said to underlings, you know, follow the chain of command.

00:53:58.000 The other way of looking at this is he was saying, call me first.

00:54:04.120 If before you follow anything, you call me first.

00:54:08.420 Isn't that exactly the opposite of what I understand to be the way our especially nuclear system works?

00:54:18.420 You you assume that if you assume that if it is coming with the correct code, that it takes two people, not just the president.

00:54:28.480 And you must not disobey that order.

00:54:31.800 You don't pick up the phone and call someone else.

00:54:34.960 In fact, you're trained not to because it could be a fake on the other end.

00:54:43.380 It could be a misunderstanding.

00:54:45.020 You do not make any decision other than turn the key if you saw those codes coming across.

00:54:54.060 Is that right?

00:54:55.320 That is the way the entire system is set up.

00:54:58.640 And keep this in mind, too, Glenn, when a young man or woman enlists in the military, one of the part of their oath is that they pledge to support or to obey the orders of the president.

00:55:15.020 And the officer is appointed over me.

00:55:17.080 Now, the officer commissioning is just slightly different.

00:55:20.600 It doesn't have those words, but it has the same meaning in terms of obeying the orders of the president because he's the commander in chief, according to Article two.

00:55:31.580 So now you've got Millie in there saying, don't do anything.

00:55:36.020 If you get any of these orders, don't do anything.

00:55:38.860 Don't do anything until I'm in the loop.

00:55:41.220 Don't with me first.

00:55:42.740 Puts us at grave danger, right?

00:55:47.640 I mean, we're not talking about what it what happened.

00:55:50.760 We're talking about what could happen and why it is so vital that no general ever is allowed to do anything like this.

00:56:01.180 No, there there there is.

00:56:04.860 Again, there's no press for this.

00:56:07.120 I yes.

00:56:08.500 MacArthur ignored the his orders.

00:56:11.700 He ignored the warnings that Harry Truman had given him.

00:56:16.700 But there is nothing like what we've seen here with Billy.

00:56:19.820 And I know that there are people who support Millie, the good people who I have confidence in that are supporting Millie on this thing.

00:56:27.940 But saying, but he has routinely talked to the the Chinese.

00:56:33.560 Yeah, that's right.

00:56:35.220 But has he routinely advised the president of of what the content of those conversations or the secretary of defense of his intent to talk to them?

00:56:45.740 Because the president and the secretary of defense are the national command authorities, and they're the only ones that can deploy and put troops into harm's way.

00:56:55.120 So I'm going to take a break to one minute and then, Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin, Jerry, I would like you just to answer the question.

00:57:06.300 So what should happen from here?

00:57:10.560 What should people be doing from here?

00:57:14.980 I mean, we have to have a military that obeys the chain of command for every lawful and legal order.

00:57:25.120 And this is a massive breach of that.

00:57:28.620 So what should happen to him in 60 seconds?

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00:59:00.360 So, General, what should happen to General Milley?

00:59:17.440 Well, I think that he needs to step down.

00:59:20.700 And there should be an investigation here.

00:59:23.060 And we should find the whole story.

00:59:25.380 We need to get to the bottom of everything that happened.

00:59:28.180 And then, if, in fact, he is found to have committed treason, then I think that he has to be treated accordingly.

00:59:41.040 And, again, it's not an automatic death penalty.

00:59:44.180 I thought that's what was in the Constitution.

00:59:46.380 I'll have to go back and check.

00:59:47.660 It allows for the death penalty.

00:59:49.480 But it can also be as low as a $10,000 fine for treason.

00:59:55.080 So, now, treason in wartime normally carries a higher penalty.

01:00:03.940 But if you look at these lieutenant colonels and others that have spoken out about how they feel about the chain of command, etc.,

01:00:10.780 and they've all been fired immediately, don't we have a double standard here?

01:00:15.240 Of course we do.

01:00:16.740 Of course we do.

01:00:17.620 On the things that people should be worried about and standing up for and making sure that somebody pays attention,

01:00:27.320 how high on the priority list with everything that's going on, how high on the priority list is this?

01:00:33.360 I think this is a very high priority, Glenn, because, again, every American needs to be concerned about this.

01:00:40.140 Listen, look, I look at Joe Biden and his administration, and I say this is a dysfunctional administration.

01:00:50.200 And, clearly, when they cut the mic off on the president routinely to make sure that he doesn't say something foolish that's going to create problems,

01:01:00.840 you've got a problem there.

01:01:02.880 And I think every American should be concerned that if a military officer can undermine the commander-in-chief of our military

01:01:14.780 and working in coordination with the Speaker of the House, for example, this is a problem that is extra-constitutional.

01:01:26.340 This is a problem that could ultimately be the end of our country as we know it,

01:01:33.960 and this whole idea of civilian control of the military.

01:01:36.860 We are a constitutional republic.

01:01:38.920 Let me ask you this.

01:01:39.740 We have been so undermined by the Biden administration and the pullout of our troops in Afghanistan,

01:01:46.180 and, I mean, we've just betrayed everybody.

01:01:47.740 There is something else that Biden has just said that he is going to share U.S. and British nuclear submarine technology with Australia.

01:01:58.140 France is out of their mind about this, and I want to give you this and see what you think.

01:02:02.760 Macron said,

01:02:03.780 This is a regrettable decision, and it only reinforces the need to make the issue of European strategic autonomy loud and clear.

01:02:11.660 There is no credible way to defend our interests and our values in the world, including in the Indo-Pacific.

01:02:18.980 Isn't he saying that we have got to pull away from this big relationship with America because we can't trust them?

01:02:27.860 We have to trust ourselves?

01:02:30.400 Absolutely, Glenn.

01:02:31.700 And listen, the Europeans, for probably two decades, have talked about and even experimented with creating a separate entity,

01:02:42.640 a separate military force, aside from NATO, to where the European Union,

01:02:48.980 and that's what it would be.

01:02:50.300 It would be European Union nations,

01:02:52.200 that they would have a military that they could use without the influence of the NATO commander,

01:03:00.240 which is always an American.

01:03:02.560 And that's an American because they asked for America to take control of this.

01:03:07.280 But, yeah, you could see them forming this separate from NATO or even NATO going away.

01:03:14.400 This is a tough situation.

01:03:16.580 And thank you very much, General.

01:03:17.740 I appreciate your time and your advice.

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01:04:58.800 This is a song that is forever at least burned into my memory as the song for the heroes of 9-11.

01:05:25.220 Superman by John Andrasik.

01:05:32.200 John is an amazing guy.

01:05:34.260 He's a singer-songwriter for Five for Fighting.

01:05:40.460 I think he's been on the show before, our show.

01:05:44.040 But, you know, I don't know his politics.

01:05:46.240 I know that he stands up for the military.

01:05:48.680 I know that he is trying to do good with his power in his career.

01:05:55.760 And I have, I'm not only a fan, I also am a, I also am a fan of a nice guy.

01:06:03.700 He's trying to be a good guy.

01:06:05.620 He's getting some heat because he's coming on this program.

01:06:09.020 He tweeted, I'm going to be on the Glenn Beck radio program talking about blood on my hands and the current situation on the ground in Afghanistan.

01:06:14.860 And he got a lot of heat from some of his fans.

01:06:18.840 If you had any shred of dignity, you wouldn't go on these shows to continue to lie about the election and vaccines.

01:06:23.680 I don't know what those lies are.

01:06:25.220 But as somebody else, I'm surprised to see he's one of the people hurting us.

01:06:29.620 I'm so sad to see his choice to join with liars and demagogues.

01:06:33.440 And that's a good name of her show instead of, you know, Glenn and Stu, liars and demagogues, maybe.

01:06:39.800 We welcome now to the program, John Andrasik.

01:06:43.560 Hi, John.

01:06:44.000 How are you?

01:06:45.660 Hey, Glenn.

01:06:46.540 Demagogue is a good name for a rock band.

01:06:48.340 The demagogues.

01:06:52.780 You are in the news this week because you wrote a song and I don't know when rock and roll became, you know, obey the man and don't don't question authority.

01:07:05.900 But you wrote a song and I want to play a little bit of it.

01:07:08.400 Blood on my hands.

01:07:10.520 And it was you're not allowed to promote it on Facebook.

01:07:14.480 Here it is.

01:07:14.860 Got blood on my hands.

01:07:18.340 Got blood on my hands.

01:07:28.680 And I don't understand.

01:07:36.880 What's happening?

01:07:39.280 This, I think, is something that everybody is feeling right now.

01:07:43.280 I don't understand what's happening.

01:07:45.120 And I just want to ask some questions.

01:07:46.880 Uh, and you are, you are asking some pretty profound questions and some questions that every American should be asking.

01:07:56.820 Tell me, Willie, uh, Millie, when did you decide this will defend your sacred motto now means never mind.

01:08:05.320 Um, why can't Blinken, why can't you look us in the eye?

01:08:10.220 I mean, those are important things to question.

01:08:12.820 Tell me where the song came from and the reaction to it.

01:08:16.160 Well, you know, Glenn, I think like everybody, when, uh, the first images started coming out of Afghanistan, uh, you know, the people falling off planes and mothers throwing their babies over walls.

01:08:27.400 And, uh, you know, people getting crushed at checkpoints.

01:08:31.200 It kind of, in a way, reminded me of 9-11 and just the horrific images and that kind of stunned what is happening.

01:08:38.420 And, uh, but it really didn't, really didn't start forming as a song till the day our 13 soldiers were killed and the 100 Afghans were killed by the suicide bomber.

01:08:47.280 Like, uh, like musicians and, and probably you, you probably have a punching bag or something you do or go for a walk or a run when you get mad.

01:08:55.740 I, I sit at the piano and just bang.

01:08:57.960 And I went up there and, uh, still had no intention of writing a song.

01:09:02.300 And, um, but then a few days later when I was driving my family to Mammoth for a nice weekend, I got a call from a friend and I pulled over and she said to me,

01:09:13.860 Hey, I need some help.

01:09:14.700 Can you give me a certain contact to some, some folks I know?

01:09:17.880 And I said, sure.

01:09:18.700 What's going on?

01:09:19.900 And she said, well, I'm organizing evacs of ACITs and SIVs from Afghanistan.

01:09:25.800 And I'm like, and again, I'm, you know, I'm a naive singer.

01:09:29.720 I'm like, what's an, what's an AMCIT, ACIT?

01:09:32.140 She's like American citizen.

01:09:33.740 And I'm like, wait a minute.

01:09:34.840 You're telling me that private citizens are risk, risk, risking their lives to go rescue our people that are government left behind.

01:09:42.860 And this is a tough, toughie, this, this, this woman.

01:09:46.480 And she started crying and, and I'm like, what is happening?

01:09:51.340 So, um, a couple of verses were written that day.

01:09:54.400 And then finally, finally, when president Biden came out and gave his extraordinary success speech, um, obviously like all of us, I was kind of stunned.

01:10:04.460 And, and, and I was hopeful because I've always, as you know, I've been a big supporter of the military and I was hopeful that General Milley and, and General Austin would, will come out and put some perspective on that.

01:10:14.400 Because I've always felt, look, politicians are who they are, but our generals are the adults in the room.

01:10:19.000 And if things get really sketchy, they'll, uh, they'll make, you know, at least make the right decisions or be honest with us.

01:10:24.700 But when they started parodying the, oh, extraordinary success, look at this amazing evac, everything went according to plan.

01:10:32.240 I got scared.

01:10:33.620 I'm like, this is dangerous because I realized at that moment, this is not a humanitarian mission.

01:10:39.360 This is not a military mission.

01:10:41.600 This is a political exercise.

01:10:43.220 So, the last few verses about Milley and Austin and Blinken basically wrote themselves.

01:10:50.700 And, uh, and then, you know, I waited till 9-11, uh, was over.

01:10:54.600 Um, but certainly you don't want to put a song like this out over that weekend.

01:10:57.840 And I put it out the next day.

01:10:59.620 And, uh, I think a lot of people agree with the message.

01:11:03.320 Um, unfortunately we're such a tribal country that there's many folks who, uh, are not interested in, uh, letting, letting me hear it.

01:11:11.020 Um, and I'm not accusing Facebook of that because I think this was more of an algorithm thing.

01:11:14.880 But the problem is, you know, that we've seen so many examples of censorship from big tech that when something like this happens, it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.

01:11:24.120 But, uh, it's getting out there.

01:11:25.720 People are resonating.

01:11:26.900 I'm getting hundreds of emails from all walks of life, all political stripes, certainly veterans, military families.

01:11:33.420 So, I think it's an important message because, as you said, it's a moral issue.

01:11:37.720 It's not a political issue.

01:11:39.060 And deep down, we all know what happened with a calamity.

01:11:44.280 I'll tell you, John, I, I've never, I mean, I've been embarrassed by my country historically.

01:11:51.040 Um, you know, there were times, uh, that I've seen some of our presidents say things, do things, and I'm like, oh, geez, that's going to leave a mark.

01:11:59.400 Um, and there were times even under Donald Trump that I thought, oh, I'm embarrassed.

01:12:04.240 Stop, stop tweeting.

01:12:05.600 Stop saying these things.

01:12:06.840 You know what I mean?

01:12:07.920 Uh, that's different than his policies, which I generally supported.

01:12:12.060 Um, uh, but this was the first time that I felt my country in the time.

01:12:19.500 You know what I mean?

01:12:20.000 I've, I know we've done it in the past, but in real time, this is the first time I have been shocked, horrified, scared, uh, at the lack of honor.

01:12:34.340 And I think people, no matter what walk of life, I think we all felt this is dishonorable, really dishonorable.

01:12:42.580 You wrote a line, I can't hear her scream if she's not, if she's not on TV.

01:12:50.060 I can't hear him scream if he's not, he's not, he's not on TV.

01:12:53.960 What do you mean by that?

01:12:56.200 I can't agree with you more.

01:12:59.260 And, um, just to echo what you said, if Donald Trump were president and we were in this situation, I would write the same song and the names would change.

01:13:08.040 It would be the same song because it is a moral issue.

01:13:10.540 And believe me, I'm no huge Trump fan and I've been embarrassed by him before, but as this is, I think, a generational catastrophe because our word, the American word matters.

01:13:23.220 No man left behind matters.

01:13:25.240 Um, and why would anybody trust us again?

01:13:28.080 I am ashamed.

01:13:29.540 Glenn, I just got off the phone with my friend who I mentioned inspired the song.

01:13:33.520 I talked to her every day though.

01:13:35.660 She goes radio silent, you know, for a couple of days.

01:13:38.060 And then I start to worry, but literally when you guys called, I hung up with her.

01:13:42.880 She was telling me about a music school that was burned down by the Taliban and the children are in hiding and they're trying to get them out, but they're having struggling with the state department.

01:13:53.480 Cause there's this thing called a, a lily pad transfer.

01:13:56.120 I'm learning all this stuff.

01:13:57.060 I have no idea that they have to get permission from a country to take them.

01:14:00.700 That's happening right now.

01:14:02.200 Okay.

01:14:02.960 What do we see on television?

01:14:04.380 You know, a certain usual suspects still focus on Afghanistan, but the media has moved on.

01:14:10.740 And to me, that's a shame.

01:14:11.920 I feel, I feel ashamed because you're right.

01:14:14.920 If it's not on TV, it doesn't matter in America.

01:14:17.820 And those kids are trapped.

01:14:19.820 There's people getting tortured and it's on us.

01:14:23.260 It didn't have to happen.

01:14:25.120 And it's not about the decision to withdraw or not.

01:14:27.340 We could have done it in a much orderly way.

01:14:29.400 We could have kept Bagram.

01:14:30.480 We could have kept a small force, kept air power to been very, I wouldn't say easy, but it didn't have to be this way.

01:14:36.880 And it doesn't have to be this way now, but that's happening as we speak.

01:14:40.400 And we're supposed to be a compassionate country.

01:14:42.480 I hear that from, you know, some of the folks on the other side that frankly don't have any interest of playing this song.

01:14:49.320 And I'm wondering, is this America 2.0?

01:14:51.460 And I really don't like it very much.

01:14:52.940 And I'm with you.

01:14:53.680 I'm ashamed.

01:14:54.720 And I don't know what to do.

01:14:56.820 Sometimes songwriters have no words.

01:14:58.440 It's rare, but I have no words.

01:15:01.260 Sean, do you have any thoughts on what the hell has happened to the arts community, the songwriters, the musicians?

01:15:16.460 Rock and roll is a rebellion.

01:15:21.220 It is about questioning authority.

01:15:24.220 I mean, when you're going after Eric Clapton for a song about COVID-19 and the lockdown, when you're going after Clapton, what has rock and roll and music become?

01:15:40.040 Isn't it ironic that rock and roll, speaking to the man, now the music industry and all the publications is the man?

01:15:52.760 It's surreal.

01:15:54.080 They used to appreciate rebels.

01:15:56.040 Now they have pseudo-rebels.

01:15:57.480 And they're all, I think, I think it's two things.

01:16:00.920 I think there are people who agree with our sentiments.

01:16:04.940 And I think pretty much everyone does.

01:16:06.880 But they're scared.

01:16:08.680 They will, you know, it will affect their career.

01:16:10.480 They may get canceled.

01:16:11.480 They may get their concerts canceled.

01:16:13.720 And if the machine comes after them, they're scared.

01:16:15.980 And I think the other side of it is what permeates the whole country is the tribal group thing, okay?

01:16:21.500 We've gotten to a point where we're so tribal that no matter what the issue is, we don't think it, look at it through a moral lens.

01:16:28.840 We look at a political lens.

01:16:29.900 Does this hurt our side or not?

01:16:32.040 Yes.

01:16:32.320 And if it hurts our side, we're going to buy and pair it.

01:16:37.240 And I'll say this to your audience.

01:16:38.720 What's happening with the left on the extraordinary success is similar to what happens on the right with Donald Trump won in a landslide.

01:16:46.480 All these people walk around, Donald Trump won in a landslide.

01:16:48.900 Donald Trump did not win a landslide.

01:16:50.400 Donald Trump lost the election.

01:16:51.800 Similar with this Afghanistan parodying of an extraordinary success.

01:16:55.980 What a evac.

01:16:56.880 And it was disgusting to see some of the Democrats in the Congress questioning Blinken, basically just towing that party line.

01:17:03.940 When they know deep down this is catastrophic for America, that's a sickness.

01:17:07.780 That's a malignancy this country has.

01:17:10.200 And if we don't address that, then I fear for our grandchildren.

01:17:13.860 Because if it's an Orwellian narrative, it's an Orwellian world, and we're moving down that path.

01:17:19.120 John, I appreciate what you're doing.

01:17:22.700 If you wouldn't mind holding, I'd like to talk to you off air about your friend in Afghanistan.

01:17:26.900 I don't know if you're aware of what we're doing.

01:17:29.180 I can't make any promises, but I can at least see if we can help at all.

01:17:34.520 It is, if our country isn't going to do it, it is our personal responsibility that we do the right thing, even if our country doesn't.

01:17:46.180 John, thank you.

01:17:48.760 Hold on for just a second.

01:17:50.160 If you want to hear the song, you can find it pretty much anywhere.

01:17:56.360 Blood on my hands.

01:17:57.840 It is a song that is not sticking it to the man, is asking the man, what the hell is going on?

01:18:07.040 I think we deserve some answers.

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01:19:21.300 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:19:26.120 We just talked to John Androsik.

01:19:28.360 He's the singer-songwriter from Five for Fighting.

01:19:32.220 He has a new song out called Blood on My Hands.

01:19:35.620 We are always begging for culture.

01:19:39.640 I think he's the best songwriter we have on, you know, and I can't say on our side, on the side of the republic, on the side of decency.

01:19:48.520 And everybody is asking for culture.

01:19:52.200 He is a major force in culture.

01:19:54.960 The only one that I'm aware of in the republicans that have retweeted his song or put out on social media, Blood on My Hands, is, I think, Burgess Meredith.

01:20:09.540 No, not Burgess Owens.

01:20:12.060 Burgess Meredith.

01:20:12.680 He's been dead for a while.

01:20:13.780 That would have been incredible.

01:20:14.420 I mean, that is a tweet I would have liked to have seen.

01:20:17.040 I would have liked to see that, too.

01:20:19.080 But Burgess Owens, please send this everywhere.

01:20:24.780 I'm going to tweet it.

01:20:25.600 I'll put it on all my social media.

01:20:27.160 And you'll be able to retweet it or, you know, post it yourself.

01:20:31.780 But please get this out.

01:20:33.380 This is culture.

01:20:35.880 And this is where we always lose.

01:20:38.080 Here's a guy who is fighting for the things of decency.

01:20:43.440 And he is a force in the culture.

01:20:45.700 And they're doing everything they can to shut him down.

01:20:49.620 We need to pick up that ball and help support people like this.

01:20:54.980 And that goes to Congress.

01:20:56.900 Send this to everybody in Congress and say, why isn't your office retweeting this?

01:21:01.120 This is a great message.

01:21:03.980 John Androsik, the name is Blood on My Hands.

01:21:08.660 We need a little grassroots organization here to support somebody who is actually doing the right thing and using their talent for good.

01:21:23.580 You look into him at all, you'll see he's a really good guy, a really, really good guy.

01:21:28.760 And I'm sorry if my support hurts him.

01:21:33.960 But, you know, with people that are like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe Glenn Beck likes five for fighting.

01:21:41.220 Shouldn't music cross all lines?

01:21:44.180 Shouldn't it?

01:21:45.700 Do you have to vote for one person to be able to like a group?

01:21:51.040 Because if that's the way it is, you should question yourself before you wreck yourself.

01:21:55.540 Because that's wrong.

01:21:57.720 That's wrong.

01:21:58.760 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:22:02.420 That wrecked my credibility?

01:22:08.580 You know, it really bothers me when people say the Afghans did not push back.

01:22:16.260 They just, they dropped the weapons and they ran.

01:22:19.380 Well, some did, but there's some good reasons for that.

01:22:22.780 But others have not.

01:22:24.620 Others are, others have not given in to the Taliban at all.

01:22:30.180 There is a fight that is going on in Panjshir in Afghanistan by these incredible freedom fighters that are pushing back the Taliban and all of the bad guys.

01:22:45.380 We have one of the guys who is the head of foreign relations for the resistant front of Afghanistan.

01:22:52.780 His name is Ali Nazari, and he joins us to tell us what's really going on with a resistance in Afghanistan in 60 seconds.

01:23:03.880 The Glenn Beck Program.

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01:24:29.320 Ali Nazari.

01:24:30.640 He is the head of foreign relations for the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan.

01:24:35.300 Not a lot of coverage of what people are doing in Afghanistan, trying to stand up to the Taliban.

01:24:44.040 And the greatest example of that is happening in the Panjshir Valley in Afghanistan.

01:24:49.660 Welcome, Ali, to the program.

01:24:50.820 How are you?

01:24:53.140 Good morning.

01:24:54.240 Thank you for having me.

01:24:55.360 You bet.

01:24:56.140 So tell me what's going on.

01:24:57.740 Tell us the truth about that there are people that are resisting, and it's working in many cases.

01:25:06.660 So you have freedom fighters in northern Afghanistan, in the Panjshir Valley, who have launched a resistance, who are being led by Commander Ahmad Masoud, the son of the late Ahmad Shah Masoud, who was assassinated two days before 9-11.

01:25:27.520 The Taliban, who has been resisting the Taliban for the past few weeks, the Taliban have been unable to defeat these forces, were determined to resist and to fight these terrorists, this criminal syndicate, until we're able to bring freedom to every single citizen of Afghanistan.

01:25:56.720 So, can we back up for just a second?

01:25:59.860 Because I have heard Ahmad Shah Masoud, his name brought up in reverence when I talk to people from Afghanistan.

01:26:11.700 I don't really know his story, and I don't know why he was killed before 9-11, but I know now his son is leading the charge.

01:26:22.260 Tell me the significance and the history that Americans should know about that.

01:26:27.060 Who is he, who was he, and who's his son?

01:26:30.600 Well, the late Commander Ahmad Shah Masoud, he started his struggle in the late 1970s against the Soviet Union, against Soviet aggression and communism.

01:26:42.280 So, he was an ally of the United States from the late 1970s, and then, so in the 1980s, he fought against the Soviets.

01:26:51.460 In the 1990s, he started his struggle against international terrorism, against the Taliban and their international terrorist friends or allies.

01:27:00.680 And he was assassinated by Al-Qaeda two days before 9-11.

01:27:06.640 The two events, 9-9-2001 and 9-11-2001, are interconnected.

01:27:13.360 9-11 wouldn't have been possible if he was alive, because he was fighting the Taliban and Al-Qaeda throughout the five years,

01:27:23.540 from 1995-1996 up to 2001 when he was assassinated.

01:27:28.000 And how old was his son when his dad died?

01:27:34.140 Can you repeat it?

01:27:35.880 Sorry.

01:27:36.460 How old was his son, who's now taking his place, how old was his son when his dad died?

01:27:43.960 His commander, Ahmad Masoud, his son, was only 12 years old.

01:27:48.380 Okay.

01:27:48.720 And he lost his father.

01:27:49.840 And so now he is, he is fighting against the Taliban, just like his father.

01:27:55.520 And tell me what the progress is and what, what they're doing.

01:28:00.440 So, fortunately, the Taliban have not been able to take over the strategic areas of Pineshire.

01:28:09.800 So we control more than 65% of Pineshire province.

01:28:14.520 We control parts of other districts that neighbor Pineshire.

01:28:18.940 Our forces are well equipped.

01:28:21.560 We have remnants of these special forces trained by the United States that are fighting alongside our local resistance forces.

01:28:30.900 So right now, we are in a good position.

01:28:34.020 We will be seeing more advances in the next few weeks or so.

01:28:38.700 The Taliban are experiencing infighting.

01:28:43.180 They are experiencing a rift within their group.

01:28:45.860 But we're determined to fight for democracy, for fight for freedom, or for fighting for the rights of every woman and man inside Afghanistan.

01:28:58.320 We're the last remaining U.S. ally in the country.

01:29:01.480 However, we feel abandoned.

01:29:03.520 We feel all alone because we're fighting international terrorism today.

01:29:08.180 Al-Qaeda is much stronger compared to 2001.

01:29:11.220 However, we're seeing the world abandon this global war on terror.

01:29:16.040 We're left alone inside Afghanistan to fight the global war on terror because Al-Qaeda is fighting against us.

01:29:23.140 There were more than 500 Arab fighters more than a week ago that attacked us.

01:29:29.360 And I put up the videos on social media where you have Arab-speaking fighters coming from Iraq and Syria saying,

01:29:37.140 we're going to the front in Pineshire to fight these infidels.

01:29:40.520 So this isn't a civil war.

01:29:43.320 We're fighting international terrorism.

01:29:45.540 You have the re-emergence of Al-Qaeda inside Afghanistan at the moment.

01:29:51.460 They are allied with the Taliban.

01:29:53.040 The Taliban, which is a terrorist group, which is a colonel syndicate, they're helping these terrorist groups re-emerge.

01:29:59.780 And this is the reality that after 20 years, after 20 years of 9-11 happening and U.S. involvement inside Afghanistan,

01:30:09.680 now we're seeing the country being abandoned and the Taliban and these other terrorist groups hijacking our country.

01:30:17.860 How do you have to do something?

01:30:19.200 How do you feel when you see people in the West and our leadership say, you know, you, you know, we went over there, we spent 20 years and the people just don't want freedom.

01:30:30.700 And so that's just the way it is.

01:30:34.000 How do you feel when you see that?

01:30:36.040 Let me give you an example.

01:30:37.860 A week ago, our leader, His Excellency Ahmed Masoud, he recorded a message to the nation.

01:30:47.220 He put it up within two hours, within two hours, we had mass protests in Kabul, in Herat, in Mazar, the major cities, and even in rural Afghanistan.

01:31:01.380 He called upon the people to rise up against the Taliban.

01:31:04.240 So this shows the people of Afghanistan want freedom, because since August 15, especially for the past 10 days that Commander Ahmad Masoud has called upon the people to rise up against the Taliban,

01:31:20.800 we're seeing everyone, women, men, old and young, rise up and express that they want freedom.

01:31:28.620 So this is, this is completely wrong when people say, no, the people of Afghanistan wanted a regime like the Taliban.

01:31:35.820 No, look, today, everyone is rallying and protesting for, for freedom, for their rights, for democracy.

01:31:42.860 And today, the legitimacy that we've shown, and, and within, within a week, with, in two days, to be more specific, the Taliban were unable to show it in two decades,

01:31:56.560 because the Taliban did the same.

01:31:58.260 They would record messages calling upon the people of Afghanistan to rise up against the government in Kabul and against NATO forces.

01:32:05.560 But the people never said yes.

01:32:08.180 They never followed the orders of the Taliban.

01:32:11.760 But our leader, he says, go protest, go rise up against the Taliban.

01:32:17.620 Within a few hours, you see the masses mobilized.

01:32:22.460 And within Afghanistan and outside of Afghanistan, they started their protests in favor of the National Resistance Front and in favor of freedom and independence and, and, and, and democracy inside the country.

01:32:35.240 We're talking to the head of foreign relations of the National Resistance Front in Afghanistan about what's really going on there.

01:32:41.700 When you hear people say, here in America, you got to stand up and protest, it doesn't really mean an awful lot here in America, because we've had that right forever.

01:32:50.800 We're losing it, but we've had that right forever.

01:32:53.920 But there, with the Taliban, that can mean, especially if you're a woman, a death sentence, a prison sentence, a beating, rape.

01:33:05.420 Am I wrong on that?

01:33:06.420 No, you're completely right, because of the risk.

01:33:11.140 Just look at the photos.

01:33:12.600 So in the protests, the Taliban have beaten women.

01:33:16.480 They've shot and shot women.

01:33:22.300 And they've, there's pictures of them pointing their guns towards women.

01:33:25.560 So there's a lot of risks when people come out in these Taliban controlled areas to protest, to endorse and support the National Resistance Front.

01:33:36.420 But the people want to do this because they want their freedom.

01:33:40.660 They don't want to give up their freedom.

01:33:42.660 These people are freedom loving individuals that will not allow any oppression, any sort of oppression to come upon them.

01:33:53.320 And unfortunately, right now, that oppression is coming with weapons, with arms and munitions funded by American taxpayer money, because basically everything was left for them.

01:34:06.480 And all of this weaponry, all of these equipment that were purchased by American taxpayers today is in the hands of the Taliban, killing women, killing democratic forces, fighting against the last remaining U.S. ally, which is the National Resistance Front, led by Mr. Ahmad Massoud.

01:34:22.960 So this is the irony.

01:34:25.760 May I ask you for either a confirmation or a clarification?

01:34:30.740 Our government says there are two Talibans.

01:34:33.780 There's the old Taliban and the new Taliban.

01:34:35.980 And we're hoping the new Taliban is going to be great.

01:34:38.700 It's from my understanding from sources on the ground, there are two Talibans.

01:34:43.100 There's the old Taliban, which is exactly like it was.

01:34:47.020 And then there's a new Taliban that is even more extreme and even more dangerous.

01:34:52.600 Is that true or not?

01:34:55.040 Of course.

01:34:56.200 Of course.

01:34:56.840 You have the old guard that have the same mentality as before, which there is a minority now.

01:35:03.020 They haven't changed.

01:35:04.740 But the new Taliban, it's a new brand of the Taliban.

01:35:08.620 It's much more radical in their ideology.

01:35:11.900 And they believe that their revolution should be exported, that their jihad should be exported.

01:35:19.100 They've been successful in the side of the Muslims.

01:35:21.240 They should take this jihad, this revolution, this struggle throughout the Islamic world and save other oppressed Muslims.

01:35:28.200 So you have a much more radicalized Taliban that is more closer to ISIS and al-Qaeda ideologically than the Taliban we saw 25 years ago.

01:35:40.560 Okay.

01:35:40.900 So one more question.

01:35:43.020 The National Resistance Front of Afghanistan, you're in the Panjshir Valley.

01:35:47.260 And it's my understanding that one of the problems is it's, you know, Afghanistan is not America where we have 50 states, but we're really kind of one or, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's a group of tribes and areas that want their freedom to run themselves and not necessarily a national government.

01:36:09.220 And it is, it is my understanding that that national government was very corrupt and that led to a lot of the soldiers just walking away because they had been sold out and there was no real local governors or no local mayors or local police.

01:36:28.540 It was all run through the federal government.

01:36:30.580 And that's what caused the immediate drop of arms at the very beginning.

01:36:35.720 Is that true?

01:36:36.900 If not, what did happen?

01:36:39.800 Why did the resistance, when the Afghan government still held the cities and the weapons, why did they walk away from those things?

01:36:47.920 So one, one problem with Afghanistan is that Afghanistan doesn't have any ethnic majority.

01:36:53.760 Basically everyone in Afghanistan are minorities.

01:36:56.940 It's a country made up of ethnic minorities.

01:36:59.120 And for the, for this reason, Afghanistan cannot have a highly centralized political system, which is it, which it has for centuries.

01:37:10.260 And especially in the past 20 years, one of the reasons we had corruption, one of the reasons we had a weak government is because of the highly centralized presidential system.

01:37:19.140 For the past 50 years, our movement, whether it's now the National Resistance Front or before that, which was led by the late commander Ahmad Shah Massoud, we have always been asking for a decentralized state where power is equally distributed between all the ethnic groups, all the provincial provinces and all the districts.

01:37:44.340 So there could be a more federated states.

01:37:49.340 You have to have to adopt federalism for a country like Afghanistan, meaning every region has its own autonomy, has its own decision-making process, policy-making process, because we've been failing with the same formula inside Afghanistan for the past 200 years, especially for the past 50 years.

01:38:09.420 A highly centralized government will always create conflict in Afghanistan, will always result in a zero-sum game over the competition for power.

01:38:20.040 And this, this is just another way of continuing internal warfare in the country.

01:38:26.820 So in our perspective, if we want lasting peace in Afghanistan, if we want to end the perpetual conflict over power, we have to, we can cobble, we have to distribute power to the localities, to the different regions.

01:38:41.300 Wow. It's amazing that America that used to understand federalism didn't get that in Afghanistan, and it is the solution for not only our problems, but your problems, and I think the world's problems.

01:38:53.520 Local, local, local. Give people control over their own lives.

01:38:58.140 Ali Nazari, from the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan, blessings go with you.

01:39:05.940 Keep up the fight for all things that are right and just, and against the Taliban and their ilk.

01:39:15.680 Thank you so much.

01:39:16.420 You can follow him on Twitter, at Ali Nazari, and follow the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan.

01:39:26.000 It's a very complex situation.

01:39:28.800 I don't know who's right, who's wrong on everything, but these guys are the resistance of the Taliban in the Panjshir Valley.

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01:44:39.560 I'm going to play a clip of a Netflix show.

01:44:43.060 How to be a cowboy.

01:44:44.120 Listen.

01:44:44.300 The cowboy life is about tradition.

01:44:48.380 We are self-reliant and answer to no one.

01:44:52.760 Yes, mom?

01:44:54.180 Can you tell your mom I said hi?

01:44:55.340 Welcome to Radiator Ranch.

01:44:58.400 There's a lot to learn from our way of life, so you may as well learn it from the best.

01:45:02.660 The one and only Dale Brisby.

01:45:04.680 Woo!

01:45:04.820 Are you crying?

01:45:08.700 It's a circle of life.

01:45:09.860 I appreciate Mother Nature.

01:45:11.580 If you don't, then you ain't no cowboy.

01:45:13.660 Oh, yeah.

01:45:14.580 One, two, three.

01:45:16.600 If you're not a cowboy, don't step in here.

01:45:29.060 How to be a cowboy is on Netflix.

01:45:31.860 And there's a method to my madness on why I'm asking the greatest bull rider of all time, as well as, and he'll tell you himself, the most humble.

01:45:42.200 No evidence of him being on a bull ever, but legend has it that he has been 90 in Maine, Spain, Spokane, Fort Wayne, Alabama, and by legend we mean his YouTube channel.

01:45:58.760 Welcome to the program, Dale Brisby.

01:46:01.840 How are you, sir?

01:46:03.240 Oh, it's good to be here.

01:46:04.380 Thanks for rolling out the red carpet, sir.

01:46:06.500 You bet.

01:46:07.440 So I had a thought the other day.

01:46:10.020 Somebody had said about one of the guys, one of the congressmen that went over to save people in Afghanistan.

01:46:16.880 The headline was, he's acting like a cowboy.

01:46:20.360 And I thought, yeah, if you mean live by a set of code that, you know, includes honor and integrity, yeah.

01:46:28.700 And we give cowboys, the elites give cowboys a bad name, but the cowboy life is who I think every man should try to emulate.

01:46:41.160 I agree 100%.

01:46:42.640 It's funny that you say that because I was looking up articles about the Netflix show, and I looked, and definition of a cowboy popped up.

01:46:49.880 One definition was someone who tends to livestock, usually horseback.

01:46:54.800 The second definition was typically aggressive or something like that.

01:46:59.980 And I thought, well, we might be aggressive in that we ride a bull, but, I mean, as you might see in the show, like, we're pretty caring towards animal and our fellow human beings.

01:47:11.340 Yeah, I don't, I've never heard that.

01:47:13.680 I think you have to live out west and to actually have met cowboys to understand that they're some of the least aggressive guys.

01:47:21.960 I mean, I suppose you could walk into a bar and find some wannabe cowboy that is aggressive.

01:47:26.800 But generally speaking, cowboy, if you live out west, and to me, means a guy who, a cowboy contract, looks you in the eye, shakes your hand, and that's all you need.

01:47:39.500 You don't need writing.

01:47:40.500 You don't need an attorney.

01:47:41.920 It's going to be done.

01:47:43.220 There's honor.

01:47:43.700 Absolutely, man.

01:47:45.680 You gave me chill bumps the way you described it, just because, you know, I think maybe people have the old western show in mind where they envision a guy in a bar like what you're talking about, and he's real aggressive.

01:47:56.640 And he's drinking from a bottle that has three X's on it, you know, and he gets in a duel.

01:48:01.940 Right.

01:48:02.100 But I've never been in any duels, and my old man was kind of a description of what you just said, a mix between John Wayne and Woodrow F. Call from Lonesome Dove, and when you shook his hand, it meant something.

01:48:14.180 Yeah.

01:48:15.660 So I am a rancher, and when I say I'm a rancher, I have a farm and a ranch, and I go there from time to time, and I'll cut, like, you know, the hay field until I get bored, and then I'll get off and I'll say,

01:48:30.320 All right, go ahead.

01:48:32.060 So I'm not really a rancher or a farmer, but it is the life that I tried to get away from with my family as a kid.

01:48:41.260 I just wanted to live in New York City, and it is the life I would give everything to be able to return to full time.

01:48:47.620 There is something about living on a farm and reconnecting with animals and the land that makes us American, and you just, you don't have to teach an awful lot of stuff, because you're taught just by living it.

01:49:09.040 Absolutely. You know, the idea of the show actually came from, you know, me being a cowboy in social media, I get a lot of people that are thinking the exact same thing that you are.

01:49:20.480 They'll reach out to me about wanting to learn about this lifestyle, and that's where the show idea came from.

01:49:26.160 But essentially, they are seeing exactly what you're seeing.

01:49:29.400 Now, some people get here and they realize, okay, I can work way less than this and make more money doing something else.

01:49:39.540 Well, wait a minute. Hold on just a second.

01:49:41.300 You can raise cattle and make money?

01:49:44.140 You'll have to tell me how that's done.

01:49:46.200 Not much.

01:49:47.020 Right. Okay.

01:49:47.940 Most people with big ranches, you see, are doing it because it's a tax write-off, and you'll notice like, oh, you guys do this because you love it, you know?

01:49:58.780 I haven't figured out the tax write-off thing either, so I've got to get on that as well.

01:50:05.640 The changes to farming, the changes to the ranching industry over the last few years, what does it mean to America if we lose it?

01:50:17.940 Well, I mean, shoot, we lose what's in the grocery store, unfortunately, you know?

01:50:26.080 So I think that that's a start.

01:50:28.100 You know, it's just I feel like people just need to be less headline readers and look more at the facts of what this does for the country.

01:50:38.340 I mean, we're literally feeding America, and I think that that needs to be respected,

01:50:43.820 not just used as a slang term for someone that might be too aggressive.

01:50:49.360 So I wanted to talk to you because I think, I mean, we're raising, and we've been doing this for about 30, maybe 40 years,

01:50:57.360 we're raising weak men, just absolutely weak men, and that destroys nations, and we need to find strong men.

01:51:08.740 And I'm in the midst of writing some stuff about cowboy rules, and I wanted to know to you, from you,

01:51:17.380 what are the things that, to you, scream cowboy that men need to do?

01:51:27.720 Man, that's a lot. That's a big question.

01:51:30.200 One thing that is interesting to me, there's a country singer, his name's Cody Johnson,

01:51:34.700 and he told me he visited with the guy who wrote Chris Ledoux's biography.

01:51:40.180 Chris Ledoux is a cowboy, rodeo cowboy, very famous.

01:51:43.240 He passed away of cancer, unfortunately, but the guy who wrote his biography said to Cody,

01:51:48.240 the one thing I wish that I'd have put in this book that I didn't was Chris's definition of a cowboy.

01:51:53.720 And it was this.

01:51:54.500 He said, it's someone who lets their yes be yes, and their no be no.

01:51:58.640 And, you know, you can get into the technical definition of the fact that, you know,

01:52:03.640 you need to ride a horse every day to make your living, but essentially, it's that code you're talking about.

01:52:09.600 And for me, it's God first, family second.

01:52:14.020 And, you know, the rest all, I mean, love God, love people.

01:52:18.740 Right.

01:52:19.260 You know, as it says in Mark.

01:52:20.800 And that's the start of being a cowboy, in my opinion.

01:52:24.520 So, I want to ask you an if question.

01:52:28.460 If, emphasis on the if, if Dale Brisby was a fictional character, how would he fare on the TV show Yellowstone?

01:52:39.340 I mean, would he be taking people to the train station, or would you be delivered to the train station?

01:52:45.280 If you're a fan of that show, I don't know if you are.

01:52:47.360 I'm a fan of most things that Taylor Sheridan does.

01:52:53.040 But, no, it's, you know, Dale Brisby is going to be that unique character that you can't figure out if he's the good guy or an outlaw.

01:53:01.420 You know, he's usually when Dale.

01:53:04.040 That's one of the things I kind of like about it, because we are so far away from right and wrong and a cowboy culture.

01:53:12.340 And I don't mean a lawlessness, but there are times when you're just like, that shouldn't be that way.

01:53:18.300 It should, that we should be able to take care of that.

01:53:21.740 You know what I mean?

01:53:22.460 And so, it's confusing to see now things you're like, well, that's the way it should be, but it's not that way.

01:53:29.180 So, I don't know if that's an outlaw or a good guy.

01:53:33.380 Does that make sense to you?

01:53:34.620 Yeah, absolutely.

01:53:36.000 Well, there's, you know, there's that old saying, there's no honor among thieves.

01:53:39.260 Well, when even the thieves are complaining about the way things are, that makes you question what's going on.

01:53:46.740 Well, it's good to talk to you.

01:53:48.080 Thank you so much.

01:53:48.860 We'd love to meet you.

01:53:51.280 I'd love to actually come out to the ranch and see you guys at some point.

01:53:55.180 Well, it's been great to interact with you and hear all that you're doing, you know, with the Nazarene Fund and et cetera.

01:54:01.640 I'm waiting to hear back from them on some stuff.

01:54:04.520 So, I'm excited to help just with the cause that you've got going on.

01:54:09.260 Oh, I wasn't aware of that, but thank you so much.

01:54:11.800 I appreciate that.

01:54:12.820 Thank you.

01:54:13.280 Yes, sir.

01:54:14.260 Big, big, big thumbs up on those organizations that you're backing.

01:54:18.620 Thank you.

01:54:19.040 Well, you have huge fans here at the Mercury Studio.

01:54:24.420 The host of How to Be a Cowboy, Dale Brisby.

01:54:28.500 It's on Netflix.

01:54:29.520 It is a fun show that you should watch, How to Be a Cowboy.

01:54:34.060 It takes everything people think about Texans and takes it up about 10,000%.

01:54:40.540 Exactly.

01:54:42.760 Yep.

01:54:43.240 Pretty much.

01:54:44.120 Yeah.

01:54:44.820 How to Be a Cowboy on Netflix.

01:54:46.740 Thanks so much, Dale.

01:54:47.500 Appreciate it.

01:54:48.280 God bless.

01:54:48.620 Yes, sir.

01:54:49.060 Thank you, Mr. Beck.

01:54:49.920 Have a good day.

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01:54:53.280 Mr. Beck.

01:54:54.300 That's a cowboy thing.

01:54:56.160 I hate it when people, when I call somebody Mr.

01:54:58.240 And, you know, or ma'am or something, they're like, I'm not that old.

01:55:01.780 I know.

01:55:02.100 It's a sign of respect.

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01:56:09.040 The Glenn Beck program.

01:56:12.600 Holy cow.

01:56:13.700 What haven't we have we missed anything today?

01:56:17.180 I mean, holy cow.

01:56:21.200 Oh, yeah.

01:56:21.680 Yeah, we have.

01:56:22.400 We have.

01:56:23.160 We could you play cut for please?

01:56:25.240 This is kind of important.

01:56:26.600 Here's a president yesterday.

01:56:28.700 Thank you.

01:56:29.320 Over to you, Mr.

01:56:30.440 President.

01:56:30.740 Thank you, Boris.

01:56:33.320 And I want to thank that fellow down under.

01:56:38.700 Yeah.

01:56:39.020 Thank you very much, pal.

01:56:40.580 Appreciate it, Mr.

01:56:41.360 Prime Minister.

01:56:42.440 Prime Minister Scott Morrison, the prime minister of Australia.

01:56:47.960 kind of a big ally, kind of close.

01:56:52.480 I want to thank that that guy from down under.

01:56:58.760 Mr.

01:56:59.420 Prime Minister, thanks, pal.

01:57:03.640 I don't think I've I mean.

01:57:07.320 That's bad.

01:57:08.040 If I'm president, I'm screwing up your name, but at least I got it.

01:57:13.040 You know what I mean?

01:57:13.700 I don't call you pal.

01:57:15.560 Yeah, you think you'd prepare for a moment like that.

01:57:20.360 Like we've like, for example, we had we had an interview earlier today with a guy's

01:57:26.300 name that it was a little difficult to pronounce if you just kind of read it off the paper.

01:57:29.540 Scott Johnson.

01:57:30.720 Scott.

01:57:32.700 And we talked about it before we went on the air and said, hey, never know.

01:57:39.320 How do we say it?

01:57:39.900 Now, you usually screw up all the names anyway, but we at least attempt.

01:57:44.160 Yeah, they try.

01:57:45.060 They try.

01:57:45.840 We try to help Johnson.

01:57:48.820 No, it's Johnson, Glenn.

01:57:50.520 It's really not that hard.

01:57:51.720 It's Johnson.

01:57:53.060 That apparently not a thing.

01:57:54.880 Yeah.

01:57:55.180 It comes to.

01:57:56.220 I'm just going to start calling everybody on the show pal.

01:58:00.140 That's that is a good way to do it.

01:58:01.940 A sport.

01:58:02.840 Yeah.

01:58:03.440 We're out.

01:58:04.240 Sport.

01:58:05.080 All of a sudden, he's in the great.

01:58:07.800 You know what?

01:58:08.740 He he probably was around for the great Gatsby.

01:58:12.280 Hey, sport.

01:58:14.440 I think it's very possible.

01:58:16.580 He does that in a future.

01:58:18.040 Oh, we're talking.

01:58:19.580 What was it?

01:58:20.200 Australia.

01:58:20.780 Australia.

01:58:21.300 You know, I mean, if he's talking to someone from like Madagascar, it's definitely sport.

01:58:25.400 Like he said, he's going to.

01:58:26.220 And it's Madagascar.

01:58:27.700 Everybody's going to be like, even Madagascar would be like, it's Madagascar.

01:58:31.880 They made that movie about it.

01:58:33.040 It's about as good as we're ever going to get.

01:58:34.720 Everybody thought it was just a cartoon place.

01:58:37.240 Right.

01:58:37.820 No, it's a real country.

01:58:39.300 Shut up.

01:58:40.120 Right here.

01:58:40.700 That's well.

01:58:41.180 I didn't know that, pal.

01:58:42.120 But thank you for checking in.

01:58:43.360 That's what you say to the prime minister of Madagascar.

01:58:46.780 Not to Australia.

01:58:48.720 It seems strange.

01:58:50.540 And these moments only happen like every single day.

01:58:55.600 Every day.

01:58:56.100 Yeah.

01:58:56.260 That's the good news.

01:58:57.720 The good news is it's only daily.

01:58:59.500 Yeah.

01:58:59.800 Or by multi and multiple times.

01:59:02.660 You know, it was one thing.

01:59:04.340 It's one thing to be embarrassed by a guy who's sitting on the crapper and writing crazy things just to piss people off, just to see what they do.

01:59:12.120 You know what I mean?

01:59:12.920 That's all that Donald Trump.

01:59:14.160 Ninety percent of what Donald Trump did.

01:59:16.060 By the way, if you didn't, if you took him seriously the whole time, you missed out on a really good time.

01:59:23.560 Four years.

01:59:24.380 If you looked at him as a comical figure, you know, when he was doing a lot of the stuff he was doing because he was trying to be funny.

01:59:33.160 He's trying to screw people.

01:59:33.920 Or just stir it up.

01:59:34.520 You know what I mean?

01:59:35.700 You noticed that when you saw him live.

01:59:37.940 Oh, yeah.

01:59:38.280 He was one of the better comedians you've seen in a long time.

01:59:40.780 I will tell you, the guy has unbelievable comedic timing.

01:59:44.960 Unbelievable comedic timing.

01:59:46.380 He knows exactly what he's doing.

01:59:48.480 He was an artist and still is.

01:59:51.060 He's an artist when it comes to the way he does it.

01:59:55.100 And it's, you know, Boris Johnson.

01:59:56.560 They say that he messes up his hair before he goes out.

01:59:59.800 Right.

02:00:00.140 Okay.

02:00:00.600 He wants to look disheveled.

02:00:02.000 He wants to look disheveled.

02:00:03.620 And he's apparently not entirely like that.

02:00:09.380 But it was, you know, his shtick.

02:00:13.600 That's Donald Trump.

02:00:15.080 Now, Donald Trump is that character because he's played that character his whole life.

02:00:21.140 But, I mean, he's a performer.

02:00:24.060 Anyway, you know, it was one thing to be embarrassed by a guy who was just trying to stir it up.

02:00:29.420 And then there's that sad kind of, I don't want to look the prime minister in the eye because it's our guy.

02:00:36.380 They just called him pal.

02:00:38.000 You know what I mean?

02:00:38.820 Then there's that embarrassment of, yeah, we've left everybody behind in Afghanistan.

02:00:43.780 We have no friends.

02:00:44.980 And I've just called you pal.

02:00:49.160 That's embarrassing.

02:00:49.860 That's embarrassing.

02:00:50.400 That's embarrassing.

02:00:50.760 The whole thing is embarrassing.

02:00:52.200 The entire presidency has been a nonstop beginning to end embarrassment so far.

02:00:57.460 And luckily, we're not even at one year yet.

02:01:00.260 Oh, yeah.

02:01:00.660 No, we have three years.

02:01:02.700 And it's only going to get better because I watch Benjamin Buttons.

02:01:06.980 He's getting younger.

02:01:08.940 He's getting younger.

02:01:10.360 It's basically our only hope at this point.

02:01:13.000 I mean, we just have to always.

02:01:14.500 And would you be surprised if all of a sudden we all were in Benjamin Buttons?

02:01:19.020 No.

02:01:19.200 And he started to get younger.

02:01:20.660 You'd be like, yeah, par for the course.

02:01:22.460 Yeah.

02:01:23.080 Yeah.

02:01:23.740 Who didn't see that happen?

02:01:25.160 I mean, I guess we weren't just paying attention.

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 16, 2021

Rock & Roll Is Not Dead ｜ Guests： John Ondrasik & Dale Brisby l 9⧸16⧸21

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